The Joe Rogan Experience - #2106 - Kid Rock

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

Kid Rock is a musician, singer, rapper, and songwriter. His most recent album is "Bad Reputation." See him live on the "Rock the Country" festival tour.  www.rockthecountry.com www.kidrock.com Learn ...more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love that chain. What is that chain? My tattoo is my logo. American Badass. That's pretty badass. That sounds like stoner talk. It is stoner talk. Most is. It is stoner talk. Most of my conversations are stoner talk.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Like high level. There used to be Tom Petty's weed dealer in a sense. Like he would come to town, he married a girl from Saginaw, Michigan. I forget her name, great, great girl. And they would come to, you know, outside Detroit where I lived and I'd get this call like, hey, can you get Tom some weed? I'd be like, fuck, I'll take him some weed. So I'd call some of my brother's friends and get some weed.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I'd be like, this is fucking awesome because I love Tom Petty. I didn't really know him. So I'd go up there and drop the weed off and I'd be in his dressing room and like, he'd be like, so what's up, man? I'd be like, nothing. And I'm like, we have nothing in common.
Starting point is 00:01:07 This guy's so fucking high. I might've been tuned up on a couple beers or something. And I'm like, well, that sucked. I guess I'll just enjoy the music. Was this before or after you were doing music? Oh, it was a big star. Oh, really? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:24 No shit. Yeah, I was excited. You're hanging with Tom Petty. Not really. I was just taking him weed. We're trying to hang out with him. You know, that's how Tom Petty died. Somebody got him some pills. Oh, is it fentanyl? Yeah. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah, he I don't remember what his injury was, but he was hurting and a roadie got him some fentanyl. Terrible. Yeah. That's how Prince died too.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, I remember. I've heard that in the elevator. Yeah, same thing. Pain. We all know people that it's a travesty. It's a horrible thing. Well, let's just go right out the border. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Well, it's the border, but it's also the opioid crisis that's created by the Sackler family. I mean, those motherfuckers just got a giant percentage of the population hooked on heroin. It's some evil shit, man. Those fucking people are still running around too. Yeah, in case you were ever thinking about quitting drugs, fentanyl should seal the deal. Yeah. That should seal the deal. that should seal the deal yeah I know a lot of people it has they were like you know I was still an experimental cocaine user this that and the other they were like when actually came up that was it like you know I had some friends tell me they're gonna buy a testing kit this that and the other I was like yeah that's probably time to yeah move on if
Starting point is 00:02:42 you're buying a testing kit to make sure you don't die, you probably should consider your option. I might want to revisit whiskey. Yeah. Weed's not bad. Weed and whiskey, it's a good combination. You don't really, you don't want to go down that road. Although I've heard it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Not fentanyl, but cocaine. I have not tried it. I've never done it, but everyone I know who does it tells you not to do it because it's awesome. I had a good run. I had too many problems. And on the older days, you know, it's kind of just following the handbook of rock and roll. It's like your chapter 14 gets them blow, blah, blah, blah. We had fun. Nobody nobody I've seen people get all fucked up and lose their minds on it but I know quite a few people in my position like okay that's fun we were younger and you know at some point you know kind of a
Starting point is 00:03:34 weekend warrior type thing mm-hmm don't let it interfere with business and engagements and things you have to do can't say I was batting a thousand but pretty good average you You did pretty good. Yeah. Consider it. It all worked out pretty well. I'm not advocating for it at any level. I don't think anybody is.
Starting point is 00:03:52 That's my honest experience. Like, hey, you know, I came out okay. That's the thing. There's people that will tell you they're weed advocates. There's no, like, Coke advocates. There's no people like Coke fixing my life. I never got anything done. All of a sudden I was doing Coke and starting businesses. Is weed fixing in life?
Starting point is 00:04:12 We can fix people. Depends on who you are. I don't know if you're sick and just a little shit. Yeah, for a guy like me, weed's a good drug. A guy like me, weed just like chills you down. I'm probably just a huge weed smoker. Yeah. And he'll always be like, you know, for golf and there's some shit. And I'm drinking was a huge weed smoker. Yeah. And he'll always be like, you know, for golf and there's some shit.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I'm drinking my beers, having a fun. I'm always like, you know, you drive. And I'm always like, maybe you fucking shouldn't be driving. He's just fucking stoned out of his mind sometimes. And I'm like, yeah, I don't like this. I'm a little nervous and I'm tuned up already. Yeah, for some people weed makes you nicer, calms you down, makes you a little more sensitive, a little more compassionate.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah, everything affects people differently. Yeah. I've drank tequila three times. Only three? I've been to jail three times. Do the math. Kid Rock, no drink tequila. So, what do you think tequila does to you differently? three times. Do the math.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Kid Rock, no drink tequila. So what do you think tequila does to you differently? Ah, it just makes me want to punch you right in the mouth. Really? Oh, fuck. That's it. The Mexican influence. Hey, Kid Rock, nice to see you.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Like, wham! What the fuck's the matter with him? Well, tequila, like what? I have no idea. What does it do? It just makes you hyper? It makes me fucking hyper-violent fucking. You know, it could have been a combination of maybe
Starting point is 00:05:31 those few times I drank it, I was just in a headspace where, you know, you can be in different headspaces when you're doing different things. And you could blame it on the tequila. But it was really just. But I kind of have a rule that I really try not to like, you know, I've really mellowed out in the last 10 years or so, but I've really tried not to get tuned up
Starting point is 00:05:49 unless I'm in a good spot. Yeah. In a good mood for good people. Right. They don't want to be like, you know, all worked up, you know, after watching Fox News for six hours, he was fucking ready to fucking, you know, slay the beast and start pounding whiskey
Starting point is 00:06:02 and go to the club. If you watch Fox News for too long, you will think it's the end of the world. Oh, I do. And it is. It might be. It really might be. Did you see the fucking Tim Dillon thing that I posted yesterday? It's legit.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah, it was something brand new. Is that the gay comedian? Yeah. He's fucking great. He's hilarious. But he wrote, he had a picture with a girl. He said, I'm getting married. the homosexuality thing was just a phase and RFK junior writes to him
Starting point is 00:06:31 She's a beautiful lady. I could see how she ungayed you Tim The guy's running for president fucking great amazing. It's awesome in that sense. It's an amazing time He don't scare me. No, you shouldn't scare you doesn't scare me He should do the opposite of scare you Yeah, it should scare you the opposition to him because if people listen to what he says and you pay attention What he says and you actually research what he says he's telling the truth Mm-hmm. It just we've been fucked over and lied to for so long that he seems like a crazy person look at that She's a beautiful angel Tim. He's easy to see how she ungayed you Ungay fuck I learned something. I haven't
Starting point is 00:07:06 been here five minutes. My new favorite word. Usually I'm just using gay inappropriately all the time. You know, like, oh, that's fucking gay. You know, someone's like, oh, you're so insensitive. I'll be like, that's so un-gay. Yeah, it used to be a thing that we would say. Something's gay. Or it used to be, be imagine like from the time of the Flintstones the Flintstones was we had a gay old time do you remember playing smear the queer when you were kid I never played that what is it you give somebody the football and everyone tries to tackle him like in grade school just ran around we didn't even know what queer met with us a name of the game with smear the queer I never played that you play that Jamie yeah from the Midwest they
Starting point is 00:07:49 didn't have that where I grew up where'd you grow up Boston I mean I'm sure they had it fuck I would think it was invented in Boston I lived a fucked up life not not fucked up but just my high school years was all martial arts It was all from the time I was like 15 plus 21 all I did is train and compete a lot of discipline Yeah, a lot of obsession a lot of discipline and obsession, but it was a very weird socially Like so went from that to being a stand-up comedian Which is like the complete opposite ends of the spectrum
Starting point is 00:08:23 Like, so it went from that to being a stand-up comedian, which is like the complete opposite ends of the spectrum, hanging out with maniacs who are doing drugs and staying up all night, just complete polar opposite. So I missed a lot of stuff. You got a lot of money now you can make up for it. Fast track it. You probably get it all done in like two years with the loot you've made. Yeah. I found that to be a problem at times for people.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Money? No, they didn't experience, you know, the certain coming of age things, whether it's, you know, crazy chasing girls, you know, that whole thing, doing drugs, you know, just being kind of wild, you know, stealing people's statues out of the yard, whatever, crazy shit like that you do when you're young. And then they reached this point, laugh it with athletes because they were so focused and they're training at such a young age. And then they get to that point where they get money and they're like,
Starting point is 00:09:12 I want to taste it all. And then they kind of get fucked up. Yeah. You can lose your bearings. That's true. There that is the case with a lot of athletes. A lot of athletes get fat too. They just fuck it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 It's over. A lot of fighters. Yeah. A lot of athletes get fat too. They just fuck it, it's over. A lot of fighters. A lot of fighters are always dieting. Well you get that big muscle and then it's so hard to fucking maintain as you get older. Yep, that too. You start to lose your lean muscle, you know about all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yeah. All of a sudden two to 10 beers a night doesn't seem like a bad idea. Yeah. Well it's also like, I think with athletes, especially with fighters, the rush of competition is so extreme that the regular world just seems so dull. And then going back to the regular world, you don't feel like you have a real purpose anymore.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You're not training for this big event that takes place every few months. And coming back from the military. Yeah, like a lighter version of that. That's a big problem with guys coming back from the military Yeah, like a light version of that. Yeah, that's a big problem with guys coming back from the military Huge suicide just and no coaching at all. Nobody tells you what to do They just let you back in the world and you're like fuck. Yeah Seen it too many times. Mm-hmm Who many times? Too many times. So what's it like being the dude who took out by light?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Too many times. So what's it like being the dude who took out Bud Light? Let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. We were going to bring a few cases in here for you. Let me switch sunglasses. Fuck, I'll drink it up and give a shit. Two kinds of beer in this world, cold and free. I like them both.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Man, I was just having fun, to be honest with you. I mean, I was pissed, like, you know, but it wasn Yeah, I was with you. I mean I was I was pissed like you know, but yeah It wasn't like it was gonna wreck my day. He had alone my life I was just kind of like what the fuck are they doing? Broke the camel's back. I became the face of it. Yeah, I'm not I'm not the pie piper to sit around and think like people follow What kid rocked does I just became the face of it? Yeah, but they kind of do they kind of know when you listen man when you got so upset that you were Machine gun You machine gun cases
Starting point is 00:11:19 That was the end that was really it if there's one moment that they look back on and fucking go, shit! It's that moment. I've talked to him about it. I know you have. Yeah, you were there at UFC Fight. Yeah, I met that dude, the CEO. He's a good guy, man. We've become friends.
Starting point is 00:11:35 He's a good guy. He's a great guy. After five minutes of talking to him, I'm with Trump there in Dana's green room. I go to Trump, I go, see that dude behind me? I go, that's the CEO of Bud Light or Anheuser-Busch. And Trump's like, you want to go talk to him. Which in my mind, Trump said, you want to go fuck with him?
Starting point is 00:11:54 And I'm like, yes, absolutely. So we go over there, we're talking to him. We actually had a great conversation. And at some point he was telling me how we got the video. And he was actually down at Texas doing some hunting and I'm like, we talk and talk and I'm not going to share all our conversation that probably inappropriate. But I'm like, dude, you seem like somebody I'm fucking be friends with that I'd hang out with.
Starting point is 00:12:18 He's like, you would. That's what I'm saying. And I'm like, well, come to Nashville. Come visit me. Fucking did. That's awesome. Came with his top team. Fucking we broke bread, got fucked up on Bud Light,
Starting point is 00:12:30 we're fucking bold. Like, did all this fun shit. And we had a good meeting beforehand, trying to think if there's something I could do with Annihilator Bush. And I just didn't feel comfortable with it. You know, I threw out some ideas that scared the living fuck out of them.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And at the end of the day, I was like, guys, I don't feel right taking your money. I was like, I go, we can continue the conversation, see where it ends up, but honestly, I don't want any corporate deals. I don't feel right. There's not a penny on earth that could make me change who I am or have people looking me
Starting point is 00:13:02 in a different way, right? Even though it's probably half the country at this point that likes me another half wants to put a bullet in me. I understand that. There's no like, ah, he's okay. I've destroyed that. There's no, get rocks, okay. See, I fucking hate that kid.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Or I love that dude. Yeah, I'll take a bullet for him. But you know, we still talk. And that's a better place to be, honestly. And like I said, you know what I mean? They fucked up. And when you get to the grassroots of it, that's what they did. And there's so many people that work for that company, and you know all the stuff they've done. We don't have to be a broken record here. It's a great company. Right. And I'm like...
Starting point is 00:13:36 They've done amazing things. Anheuser-Busch is an amazing charitable company that... They do a lot of great things. Yeah, and I dug into that that and I was educated on it. Even before Dana called me about his deal and things like that, you know, people discussed with me. You know, I did a little digging and talked to people and I'm like, at the end of the day, I'm like, all right, they got the message.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Like I'm not someone who holds a fucking grudge this whole life, you know what I mean? And honestly, God, I was having a lot of fucking fun. I don't get to pull my machine gun out and film myself doing cool shit too often. I'm just not lot of fucking fun. I don't get to pull my machine gun out and fill myself doing cool shit too often. I'm just not that type of person. I was like, this warrants it right here. Get all the Bud Light on property.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Those actually all the beer had on property. I kept a lot of shit around, more than I thought. We stopped selling at the mothership because nobody's buying it. It got that bad. What's going on there? It's nuts. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I think it's stupid and Shane Gillis brought it back a lot. I love Shane. Shane's a buddy. He's the best. Yeah. He brought it back a lot, you know, because he never stopped drinking it. And, you know, it's slowly making its way back.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And I think the UFC helps a lot too. But they took a big hit. One of the things I told them was like, I was like, I go from the outside looking in guys as a friend, you know, somebody who doesn't want to see this, this brand hurt and destroy it anymore. Like you got smacked on the ass. Yeah. You know, in a pretty hard spanking. I was like, but I don't want to hold your head underwater and drown this fucking company, put people out of work and that shit. It's like, you got the message.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And, and it's clear. I wish people knew these guys running the company because they're great fucking guys, but I said um I Said you know just a percentage of these fucking trolls on the left and on the right They're like I'm so empowered by the internet I'm gonna piss and bitch and moan and you know I have a voice like oh fuck yourself. I cut it out like You know, I have a voice like oh fuck yourself. I cut it out like Anyone's still spending time when she clearly are fucking bored find something better to do Yeah, it's definitely the pursuit of losers But the problem is those losers can actually affect businesses and that's what they know
Starting point is 00:15:36 They know now that it's possible both on the right and on the left But they need to know there's so many more businesses in this country deserving of that treatment Right fucking Ben and Jerry Starbucks target your list goes on and on They need to know there's so many more businesses in this country deserving of that treatment. Right. Fucking Ben and Jerry, Starbucks, Target. This goes on and on. Yeah. And I don't care if they're left-wing or right-wing, it's just their fucking ideology. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Like, you know, when they cross that line and signal to people like myself and many others that they were okay with this transgender thing and more so at like, is this going to get directed at my kids? Right. So you think fucking men should be in women's sports? Like, nah, nah, nah. That's where I'm drawing the fucking line. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:16:09 That's the most amazing one that they're supporting. And the fact that, was it the Olympic Boxing Committee? What was it that just allowed transgender women? Oh, they're allowing the reverse. What do you mean? They're allowing, I always get confused. They're like, they're like, they're like, they're like chicks that's so on dicks to fight dudes,
Starting point is 00:16:27 which I'd tune in for that. Is that real? I think so. I thought it was biological men who identify as females, or going to be allowed to box. Might be. I thought it was the other way too, but I don't know. Jamie will find out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:41 The other one would see though the other ones easy. Sure. You think, go ahead, ahead do it go for it But at the end of the day, you're gonna have to take steroids and it's supposed to be illegal to take steroids like if you are taking Synthetic testosterone you're you're taking steroids and if so if you're doing that and you're becoming a man Who's to say that the men can't do it too? Like it's we even have to think that deep about it You can't just look at and go like no that's fucking wrong cut it out
Starting point is 00:17:08 Well, it should 100% be wrong for biological males to compete against biological females. That's just period period and Any bullshit that you say like trans women or women? Well, guess what they're not they're not biologically They're not they can identify as a woman. You want to call yourself Sally. I'll call you Sally. I'm a nice guy. Policy states that minors under the 18 must compete in their birth gender. In the weight class outline in the rule book, transgender women over 18 can only compete
Starting point is 00:17:37 in the female category if they undergo genital reassignment surgery and submit to quarterly hormone test for at least four years following surgery. The guidelines which define normal range testosterone. See, but this is just, this is still not good enough. The people don't understand all the different variants. I didn't understand any of that. I went into it deeply, unfortunately. Transgender men over 18 have to meet similar requirements. They must undergo genital reassignment. Transgender men, genital reassignment surgery. So you have to get similar requirements. They must undergo genital reassignment search transgender men genital reassignment surgery
Starting point is 00:18:06 So you have to get a fake dick? You have to in order to box Submit quarterly that sounds insane. Are there donor dicks? They should be Other donor they definitely do for guys who get their dicks blown off they get them new They're switching like hey, I want to be a man. I want to be a woman I haven't heard of that yet, but I'm sure that's coming But what they do not do is they don't give you the balls Because if someone switches your balls like say if you donate your balls you died in a car accident
Starting point is 00:18:37 You donate your balls to science or whatever and someone takes your balls and so is the month that'll be your kids Your genes will come out of those balls. So it won't be like a new person. Yeah. What the fuck? I mean, it won't be like this person's genes carrying on, it'll be your genes carrying on through your balls or attached to this guy.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So that's not ethical. And why does this always like come up in conversations? Is it the media? Yeah. Because I don't remember the last time, like, I seen it. And by the way, if you're transgender and you're really fucking good at it, no one knows. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:12 It's usually not the case. Although, the only time I've been around transgender people is like some crazy club like in Miami or New York back in the day. And guys say, fun. It was rare. But that means they have those clubs where they weren't be fucking blast.
Starting point is 00:19:24 No big deal. Like, if this America, means to have those clubs where they weren't, be a fucking blast. No big deal. Like, if this America, freedom, if you want to fucking be that, go ahead. Like, I'll exist with you in society. They'd probably not get in the dinner invite. But you know, if you're out and about, like, we can both shop in Walmart, I'm not going to freak out. If you're not fucking with me, I'm not fucking with you, no matter who you are. And that's how it should be.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah, pretty simple. That's how it should be. Comments pretty simple. That's how it should be. Comments, that's. Yeah, you should be able to do whatever you want. But when you want to compete as a woman or you want to start, you know, if you're a 50 year old man, you want to compete against young girls, which is what's going on in Canada, there's a guy who's 50, who identifies as a teenage girl, they let him compete and swim meets with girls and change in the locker room with them.
Starting point is 00:20:02 That's your, now you're insane. Now you're taking it too far. And that's the problem. No one's ever happy with us moving the goalposts a little bit. They want to move them, reestablish, move them further, move them further, move them further. I had a thought about that. So I'm thinking like it's Black History Month, right?
Starting point is 00:20:20 I can get down with that. That makes sense. I think November is like Native American month. I can get down with that. That makes sense. I think November is like Native American month. I can get down with that. That makes sense Thing I'm struggling with is pride month and Veterans Day Right see the fucking balance there. Yeah, I'm like good point. Should we flip that? Yeah, that's a good point That's a real good point Yeah, it's a weird time man It's a weird time because there's like so many fucking weird people that are involved in promoting these things
Starting point is 00:20:49 and pushing them and changing what's normal and what's not normal to regular people. Yeah, it's just fucking weirdos and all this fucking mentally ill fucking nutcases. That's why I, that's honestly why I carry a gun everywhere. I'm legal too, I have somebody with me. It used to be like, okay, if I'm going somewhere where I thought, you know, that would, you know, make sense to do. You know, I've always had a concealed weapons permit everywhere and whatnot. I'm just done enthusiast.
Starting point is 00:21:16 But in the last, I don't know how many years, five, so many years, it's like, carry a fucking gun everywhere. Just because of that, like just fucking people that are unstable Mm-hmm. You never know one of these motherfuckers is gonna lose it and you just sit in there defenseless Yeah, yeah, it's a strange time in so many ways People are just uh, I gotta imagine they were saying the same shit like 70s they were you know the same shit in like the 60s and 70s. They were.
Starting point is 00:21:43 You know. But the 60s and 70s were fucked too. We just forgot because the 80s were so easy. The 80s and the 90s, everyone was kind of coasting. And then, you know. Everyone was on blow. There was a little bit of that. The 80s.
Starting point is 00:21:55 But it's also, you know, the Cold War ended. It's collapsed to the Soviet Union. We weren't worried. There wasn't like this existential threat hanging over our heads. But now it's back.. It's back. Yeah Fun times done a 360 fun times real fun Chinese people are entering over the border Unbelievable. Yeah, I had no thought on that. I think I saw it on a t-shirt I don't take credit for everything I say because I'm most likely I'm just repeating something I saw somewhere right
Starting point is 00:22:22 But it's like, you know, they wanted to do away with the gas stoves Make them electric electric cars. Why don't we start with that wall? I can make that fucker electric put up some solar panels Yeah China built one how many thousands of years ago fucking make it a tourist attraction charge people go fucking hang out in the wall Put some fucking Louis Vuitton stores on it or some shit. Well, it's a real weird thing, like what they're doing. There's so many different people that have opinions about why they're leaving it open
Starting point is 00:22:51 and why they're allowing people to come in and, you know, setting them up. And Dr. Phil was on here yesterday and he was talking about it. I like Dr. Phil. He's a great guy. He's starting his own network. I played his show years ago. Did you? It was like so many of anniversary show?
Starting point is 00:23:05 I turned out it was one of his favorite acts that fucking played a banjo on there. Oh, that's awesome He's a good dude. Yeah, I know him through I'm friends with his son son's a good friend of mine, but he's He's starting a network like he's just so fed up with the dues and the way things are portrayed and these biased ways He wants to have objective news. So he created his own network. The HR department. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, it's a fucking very bizarre time. And I'm sure it's going to get more bizarre. We're going to look back on these days one day, like, ah, remember the good old days? We just, all you're complaining about was transgender women competing in sports. Yeah. Kid only wanted to be a cat, took a litter box of school, puked the good old days.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, people don't get better. Like society doesn't get better. Just gets, unless something happens, unless they figure out some sort of mind reading story. Well, unfortunately, usually that turns out to be tragedy. Right. And when something really fucked up happens, you know, Like what happened in Israel or worse. That tends to bring nations and people together on different levels.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Like 9-11. Remember 9-11? Yeah, absolutely. When 9-11 happened, I tell everybody, even in Los Angeles, which is probably the most unpatriotic place on earth, everybody had an American flag on their car. People were letting people in lanes. They were waving to people. They were friendly. They felt united.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It was interesting. I remember. Didn't last long. A few months. Everybody, half the country didn't hate George W. Bush for almost 48 hours. They didn't hate him at all. When he gave that one great speech.
Starting point is 00:24:42 No, I mean, it was a couple weeks, a couple months, whatever it was, but then things kind of went back to normal. There was a lot of liberals that liked him after that. They were like, that's what you want when you're in times of war. You want a strong leader. That's too bad we can't get to that without having something terrible happen. If we could just have a little more civil discourse in this country, you can tell me to go fuck
Starting point is 00:25:01 myself you hate Trump and my politics. I may fuck you, but I'll still sit tell me to go fuck myself you. You hate Trump and my politics. I may fuck you, but I'll still sit down and have a beer with you. Like we don't have to have this fucking goddamn going for your throat. And I'm part of the problem. I've been polarizing, you know, no question.
Starting point is 00:25:15 My last album, that's what it was all about, but, or a good portion of it. And I understand that. But I even said that album, I was like, I'm gonna get this out of my system and hopefully we can go back to having some civil discourse in this country. That was actually one of my suggestions to Bud Light.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I was like, what if you could use this to not only make fun, my thing was like, you guys need to poke fun at this. Like people aren't here because you didn't apologize. I'm like, I don't necessarily agree with apologizing over everything in this day and age. Everything's become a fucking big, I'm sorry. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:25:47 What you should do is make fun of the situation. Have something that shows light of the situation, but do it in that fun fucking Anheuser-Busch old school, funny fucking way. We're like, we get it. We fucked up. While we don't, I told Brenna, I was like, whoever coached you on that CBS morning show. I was like, you were coached, right? He was like, I was, I was like, fucking Gail King set it up. She goes, would you send that can back to that influencer?
Starting point is 00:26:13 And he goes into this, well, and as a Bush has been supporting, you know, the LGBT, ABCD, I'm like, what the fuck, man? All you had to do is say like, look, no, we would not. While we want everyone to enjoy our beer, we understand that we shouldn't be sticking our noses into polarizing conversations, and we understand who our market is. And at the end of the day, we're in business to sell beer,
Starting point is 00:26:36 keep people employed, for shareholders back, you know, return, fucking end of it. You didn't have to throw trans people under the bus or anything like that. You just fucking, How's that? That's actually good advice. Yeah. It's pretty solid advice. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the head of marketing for Bud Light. Kid Rock. That would be their ultimate move. It'd be funny. Are you? I actually told him I should do it. I should do a skit like the Kenny Powers case with.
Starting point is 00:27:06 100%. But it's like, you know, I walk in as VP, I start fucking with people. That would work. But they need to get back to, you know, remember, they used to have those real men of genius ads. It was fun. It was. Bud Light was fun.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It was a fun, I did a tour with those guys. The real men of comedy. I can't believe looking through all my old pictures. How many pictures I found with like fucking Bud Light in my hand like fishing doing something or like playing Sturgis with a big Bud Light, you know next to the stage like You know done so much cool good shit. Well, that's why when a guy like you shoots the cans Everybody goes oh, that's it. It's over. It's over's over it's trust me I don't have one of these teams of people it's like right it's me like you know maybe Corey was here with me I'm like yeah let's have some fun we don't fucking tell farm guys you get all the fucking butt light shit together and
Starting point is 00:27:57 grab grab my fucking MP5 yeah I didn't think you ran that by a marketing department no there's not much to go through one over here. Well, a marketing department for a guy like you would just fuck things up. What kind of advice could they possibly give you? They'd have to be maniacs too, and then they would never be in marketing. I've had more people, managers and stuff through the years tell me, which I took as a compliment. They told me like, just everything you've done to get where you're at, I would have told you no I
Starting point is 00:28:26 Think that's honest cuz I get you know Done some I guess you could call it crazy polarizing whatever type of shit just it's really I just I speak my mind I haven't changed one bit. I came out fucking like this middle fingers on the CDs like yeah, and I haven't changed But holy shit the times have Yeah, but it's obvious though that it's all you that's what people like in this day and age where everything is sort of planned ahead and It's bullshit and scripted You've seen behind the curtain sure these pop stars a hundred percent levels and yeah teams and everything's fucking trapped It's like a politician, you know like buying that won't can't say anything off the teleprompter well of course he can't but
Starting point is 00:29:07 it's also it's you got a whole team of people behind you they got a bunch of people that want to keep their jobs and they want to play it safe they want to play it safe and they want to figure out which way's the wind blowing this is what we're gonna do and you see it in celebrities and people turn on them now because it's like so disingenuous. They realize what you're doing You can see right through you're gonna lose a giant percentage of your people They're knowing that a marketing team is behind everything you say Right, so when a guy like you it's obvious that that was your idea
Starting point is 00:29:36 Is gonna say it's even an idea Whatever it was a thought that popped into your head that you acted on that's pretty much what it is That's that's obvious. That's what they all are. That's what people like. That's what people like. They're like real people. And sometimes you don't always turn a 10. You're like, oh yeah, maybe I should have thought
Starting point is 00:29:54 that one through a little bit more. Most of the things I say. When you think about it, I've done so many podcasts, hammered, and then after we're all listening or thinking about what we said, like, what did we say? Oh, boy, story in my fucking life. Yeah. But people like that. They like real humans. They don't want some fucking pre-programmed bullshit shoved down their throat
Starting point is 00:30:14 just to make a little bit more money. That's incredible. That kind of seems like a big, a big chunk of the country wants that. They want to go back to this normal fucked up DC, all the bullshit that's been going on there. I would dare say for our lifetimes, it's just become a lot more out in the open for several reasons, social media and the sharing of media worldwide
Starting point is 00:30:38 and fucking Trump pulling everyone's fucking pants down there, showing them, look, everyone has a small penis in this fucking town See I just showed it to you. Well, like they have the biggest dicks on earth one thing No one can deny is that he exposed the media expose the media for being Essentially a propaganda agent. It's not just the news. Yeah, and to pretend it's the news They never covered anything that he did that was positive. Anything had some negative spin on it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They spent years talking about some fake collusion story with Russia and never apologized for it, never took it back, and they'll allow people on the show to support that, to try to justify that, or to try to even say that it's not true that he did collaborate with Russia. How many times have been watching the evening news? I'm a sucker for news, like, and I've flipped between them. I'll flip between CNN and MSNBC and Fox, you know, mainly Fox, but then I'll watch the evening news.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I'll watch ABC One Night, NBC. This is one, this is just one example. There's a million of them as you know, but like they're talking about January 6th and they completely edit his speech. They take out the part where he says, March down there peacefully or whatever. He actually says that and they cut it out.
Starting point is 00:31:57 He says, we're gonna march down the Capitol, cut. And then they go, if you don't fight like hell, you're not gonna have a country. I mean, how the fuck do they get away with that? They get away with it because they are the news and no one's checking them There's not another new if the news was real the other news organizations would go this is horrible Propaganda and what you've done is you you've edited out a former president. You've changed his words This should be illegal. You're taking it completely out of context. The whole thing is so fucking screwball. Every single presidential race we've ever had that I can remember, people contested the results. Hillary Clinton did
Starting point is 00:32:39 it and Stacey Abrams, they all said he didn't really win the election. They all said there was Russian Collusion they all said that he was essentially an agent of Russia They all said that he's an illegitimate president. They all said that he didn't win the election. They all said that There were so many people that said it. It was nuts pencil-neck fucking dick fuck Adam Schiff It's it's crazy how people still listen to those folks Election I'm not a conspiracy guy or whatever, but I'm like Fucking that just seems like shenanigans. I love when anybody says I'm not a conspiracy
Starting point is 00:33:21 I'm a total fucking conspiracy guy fuck it I'm a conspiracy. I'm a total fucking conspiracy guy. Fuck it. I don't give a shit either way. But I was like, there's so many fucking shenanigans that I just, it's coming so fast with the COVID shit and ballots all over the place. You know, Secretary of State's are taking liberties, but here's my position. Wait, let me finish this one.
Starting point is 00:33:38 It was, it was that, hold on, I'm trying to stop the secretary of state. It was, it was that, okay, so these, the biggest corporations on the face of the earth are getting hacked. Right. But there's absolutely no way you can get in this election thing. I'm like, then why aren't these corporations using that technology? Why are they still getting fucking hacked? That doesn't just make up, I just can't figure that out in my fucking mind.
Starting point is 00:34:05 The thing, the statement is there's no evidence that they've been hacked. It doesn't mean, yeah. It ain't a crime if you don't get caught either. Which is true. It is true. But there is evidence that you can hack those machines, right? There is. And there wasn't that, Jamie, the subject of they were going to update the machines in
Starting point is 00:34:20 2024 or something like that. But they're gonna update them, but they weren't at a certain point in time when they were recording this, where they were reporting on this rather. They had it updated them. Here's my take on this. Election fraud is never zero.
Starting point is 00:34:40 It's not zero percent, right? We can all agree to that, right? I think we can all agree that there's people that are complete maniacs That are maniacs for the Democrats or maniacs for the Republicans and they will do whatever the fuck it takes to get their person to win There are certain human beings like that that exist especially in these like very polarized groups And especially when you've got a guy that you've been comparing to Hitler forever so you can kind of treat him as if Hitler's coming let's stop Hitler let's be literally you can think like that you do it right now think like that
Starting point is 00:35:15 and the the moral question would be if you knew you could stop Hitler from being president would you do it and how would you do it? And how would you do it? And then they act that way. Such bullshit. But what they don't recognize is that is deeply un-American. And the only way you're going to beat this person or any person who runs for president is to be better than them. That's what this country is supposed to be about. It's supposed to be about a meritocracy. It's supposed to be who is the best leader. Is it her? Is it him? Who is it? Who's the best leader? And
Starting point is 00:35:50 that's the person we should gravitate towards. Who has the ideas that make the most sense? Who's the one who understands what the fuck is going on internationally on a deep sense? Really can tell you what the people, the puppeteers behind the strings, like how this is all happening. Well, I think a lot of that would be taken away if we cap the money. Like you can raise, let's call it $10 million. You can each raise $10 million, and now let's see who spends it the wisest. Well it seems insane that you could just donate fucking untold millions of dollars to these super PACs and they can support these presents, they're essentially run in the country, because you can't beat them, and
Starting point is 00:36:29 they play dirty, they play so dirty. I mean it's kind of impressive, but it's also you're, they're exposing the wiring under the machine in a way that it's never been exposed before. You know we never were totally aware of how wild it is that, you know, there's a group of people that know whatever thinks about it called the deep state. That is real. Oh, they're gonna run Biden right out of there. Make no mistake. Oh, they're running him out right now. They're fucking running him out.
Starting point is 00:36:58 That's why all these crimes or all these things he's being charged for and then that judges decision, how about that judges decision decision that he was too mentally compromised to be tried. That was the prosecutor's decision or what was that? Was it? The investigators, her, whatever his name was, H-U-R. So who was it? That was in his report. Yeah, let's see what the exact quote was. Does anybody out there need that fucking report to just watch this guy and go like Of course, I feel bad for me. He's fucking old right. We're all gonna get there someday Yeah, it's like can you not fucking look at this guy and go like some I can look in his fucking eyes and go like Something's not fucking there something's wrong. It's the people that work under him
Starting point is 00:37:41 Because if they if he goes they go then everybody gets appointed by the new person The report described council. Yeah, okay Special the report described the 81 year old Democrats memory as I wonder why they write that the 81 year old Democrat How about the president? How about the president's memory as hazy fuzzy fa poor, and having significant limitations. They noted that Biden could not recall defining milestones in his own life, such as when his son Bo died, or when he served as vice president. God bless his son.
Starting point is 00:38:15 But think about just that, the way they wrote that. The 81 year old Democrats memory. Why would they write that? That seems so nuts. He's the president. He's not just a random Democrat. Democrats memory. Why would they write that? That seems so nuts. He's the president. He's not just a random Democrat. Like what defines him if you got one word, you go with Democrat. Is that the is that the Washington AP writing that or is that in the special
Starting point is 00:38:36 prosecutors report? I was unclear. I was unclear as well. Because that's different. Right. Of course, the AP is going to say that. Of course. But I can't see the special prosecutor saying that. But it's not. I don't think so. Because then it different. Right. Of course the AP is gonna say that. Of course, but I can't see the special prosecutor saying that But it's not I don't think because then it sounds very political. Yeah, but it's it's such a crazy thing to say to call him a Democrat He's the president. He's our leader It's wild but it's this is what what I'm saying about like the wiring under the board has been exposed in a way that it's never been Exposed before where you're looking at and you go, what?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Under the board has been exposed in a way that has never been exposed before where you're looking at and you go what? What are you guys doing? He can't he can't stand trial because he's mentally unfit But he can run the country don't worry about it He can't speak and he's gonna run again hardly fucking walk, but it seems like when they release information like that They know what they're doing. They're slowly chipping away at it and by the time probably I would say like May Rolls around it'll probably Gavin Newsom that would be my guess if I was I'm not like playing this sport so I'm watching from the sideline I'm like what would I do how would I what moves would I do I can't how the fuck can they run Gavin I keep hearing that
Starting point is 00:39:39 Gavin Newsom Michelle Obama like Gavin Newsom how the fuck when you just look at California one of those beautiful states arguably the most beautiful yeah in having news of Michelle Obama like, having news of the fuck. When you just look at California in the most beautiful states, arguably the most beautiful. In America, resources for days, fucking everything. And just him fucking Pelosi, fucking Maxine Waters, fucking Adam Shipp, they just fucked the whole state up. Like fucked it up. Everybody's running for the fucking hills.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You gotta wonder how much of it is by design. You gotta wonder of it how much is designed to make the population more unstable, more violent, more scared, more crime, less ability to prosper. Everybody goes, like everyone's much more vulnerable Well, this seems like a lot of work of the Democrats though. It seems like something is probably behind it That's bigger than that And if I would guess you're not a conspiracy, right? I'm a hundred percent a conspiracy There's I love a good conspiracy. I believed in Bigfoot until about eight years ago
Starting point is 00:40:44 Fucking the Yeti is another story. I didn't say I didn't believe in the Yeti I don't anymore But I was all in for a while, but I've been down so many rabbit holes so many 9-11 rabbit holes so many You know bohemian Grove rabbit holes. I blow it there. What bones. I got kicked out. Did you? He went to the Grove. Yeah. Oh shit. their ones I got kicked out did you he went to the grove yeah oh shit why'd you get kicked out and weird fucking weird I punched a kid in the head you punched a kid in the head and he me and Grove yeah it turns out it turns out this fucking kid was an infiltrator so then after that I was
Starting point is 00:41:20 kind of this hero like a year or two later he come back I was like I'm not coming to your little fucking weird party out in the fucking woods. I was like, I went once and it ain't that cool. So the infiltrator, what happened with you and the infiltrator? We're sitting on this fire. You have these little, they're kind of like tree houses or campsites, but they're really nice. Everyone has a private chef.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Like, you know. Really? Yeah, you do share a room. Me and Jimmy John shared a room. That was fun. And I can't remember kids talking on his fire and he's started popping that shit and I just fucking went at him.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Oh. Gave him a couple, helped him up. He's like, hey, we good? Well, we were, I think, you know, we weren't on great terms but I think we had an understanding it wasn't, it was just, you know, one of those things. And then I couldn't go to the concert that night or the exact Brow or somebody's playing like you can't come.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Oh my God. I had to sit home like I was in fucking timeout or something. I'm like, fuck this place. Meanwhile, your kid rocked and you're getting left alone by these people with some fucking crazy person and you defend yourself. Fucking weird. There's gonna be a certain percentage of people
Starting point is 00:42:26 that are just out of their fucking minds and if you haven't vetted them, that's on you. Don't kick them out. For all I remember it could have been drunk shit or whatever, it wasn't the end of the world. It was a little tussle and a little hit the ground, maybe a punch here and there, it was like, you know, then it was done.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It wasn't like, you know. But it was a fight. I guess you did. You're just a nice guy, you didn't beat a dash. It was a tussle. You're a nice guy, but it's um How many people infiltrate that place because a bunch of people film videos are now I? Have no idea Alex Jones was the first him and John Ronson
Starting point is 00:42:54 This is back before Alex Jones's persona non grata and people would do legit like legitimate journalists like John Ronson would do these things with them You never seen that video of them and well never did John Ronson John Ronson would do these things with them. You never seen that video of them in Bohemian Grove? I've never heard of John Ronson. John Ronson's a brilliant guy. He's the, what is his, he's an author, he wrote that book so you're getting publicly shamed about like social media shaming. You know like, he's an interesting guy, he's a very funny guy, but he, so he went with Alex to Bohemian Grove and they filmed these rituals these people dress like druids And they're burning this effigy in front of a giant owl statue. Oh, I was it the owl statue This is fucking hilarious. So I'm there on day one, right?
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'm drinking beers like it's pretty light back. There's some really cool talks. I remember this dude talking about Shooting asteroids out that might hit the earth and so many years shit like that. I'm like fuck. This is cool But the first day it was the first evening and you gather on whatever the owl by this lake. If I remember correctly, which could be a little hazy. It was a long time ago. And like, I'm, I'm, I've heard about this place. I'm like, this is some real secret ass shit, man.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I can't believe I'm fucking here. Right. And it's just a trove of celebrities. Fucking everywhere you turn, it's just fucking a fucking a. So you you go there and I'm like thinking we're going to hear some shit, right? And they're about to introduce the first speaker and I'm like, fuck, this is going to be some shit. And they're like, and no offense against this guy. We could, we consider them friendly. We have very good mutual friends, but they're like, ladies and gentlemen, Tony Danza. And I'm like, I'm like, what? I'm like, come on, man. Who's a fucking boss?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Tell them bitches. Which you would have just gone up there and be like, who's a boss, bitch? That's hilarious. I was like, no fucking way, man. I was like, we came all the way to secret as shit. And I love Tony. Fucking love him. But I'm like, come on, man. I was like, they brought Reagan back from the dead and he's gonna speaker hologram or some shit. You were hoping for some devil shit. Just some crazy shit one way or the other. He's a very good speaker, I gotta say, but. Maybe they toned it down.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Maybe they toned it down after they infiltrated. Oh, really? I'm terrible with dates, but it's a long time ago. Okay, because when Alex snuck in was like, this is like the 90s, Jamie? What was it? Like when Alex Jones and John Ronson snuck into Behemian Grove,
Starting point is 00:45:11 that's when they first got that video. I wanna say it was in the 90s. I wanna say it was like 99 or something like that. I did have some fun there, I gotta say. It was fucking weird. I met like Paul Pelosi and the son. Oh boy. And like Chris Matthews Like you know, I was hanging out with them. We have a cool conversations
Starting point is 00:45:30 Kind of weird and then they asked me like I had to come play my guitar Oh, no, like sing it one of these camp things. I was like I don't do this shit man with the fuck Yeah, that's gotta be weird. Hey, man, play us a song. Well, it's kind of like an unspoken requirement. Like a wink, wink. Like, you need to take your guitar over there.
Starting point is 00:45:56 You know, if you want to be in good graces or be a team player type deal, and I'm like, yeah, I really don't. A friend of mine went to a party. And in the middle of the party, Michael Bolton just starts singing and everybody gathers around where Michael Bolton was standing there singing. Was it set up? Yeah, it was set up.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Oh, that's. But no one knew. And all of a sudden, like, I think no one knew. How do you know? But it was just like, what's going on? Then how do you know? All of a sudden Michael Bolton singing and never You just be quiet. It's not a bad strategy
Starting point is 00:46:27 If you want don't want to look like a putz to like otherwise just like hey these motherfuckers paid me a shit ton of money I'm gonna sing some songs right. That's what it is. It's like the ultimate flex, you know Yeah, that's how I used to fund my foundation to a corporate gigs dude Dana White had a birthday party I've played it a few times. I know you have, I know you have. And Dana White's birthday parties are wild. And he had a birthday party for, I think it was for his 40th and Stone Temple Pilots played.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Dude, they put on a show like it was a fucking packed arena. That's what I do. I mean, I know you do. That's Dana. That's what he exactly what he said to me. He goes, there's 150 people here. He goes, where'd you think you were? I was like, fucking AT&T stadium. That's exactly what he told me. You kind of got to put yourself in that mindset
Starting point is 00:47:10 Fuck yeah, those things can be fucking grueling right They can be weird if people aren't paying attention In the stone temple palace thing there wasn't a lot of people there. There was only a few hundred people there It was crazy. That's usually what they are. A couple hundred people. Dude was killing it. Killing it. He had the bullhorn out and everything. Scott was the best. Oh my god. What an animal that guy was. Like it was so inspiring. Like how good he was at performing. Yeah he was fucking loved Scott. God bless him. They killed that show. It was really good man. It was really good and you felt like super lucky to be there. That's great
Starting point is 00:47:46 You know, there's something about seeing something where there's not a lot of people around to see it You know, that's why I like watching those UFC fights in the apex center There's something about even though I know the world seeing it on video like to be there live while that's happening Like that was one of the positive things about Cobra. Can we talk about that punch at the last fucking one we were at sitting there? That fucking, I think it was the second. Josh Emmett. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:12 That crack. Oh my God, dude. That guy punches so hard. I've only been to a handful of the fights. I know you fucking obviously that's your... Josh Emmett might be the hardest puncher in that division. I never heard anything like that. Yeah, he hit so hard.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I thought the guy was dead. Yeah, well that was a crazy combination of Bryce Mitchell moving forward quick and then him catching him right at the end of one of the most powerful punchers ever in the 145 pound division. Show that again, watch this. Look at how that dude's built.
Starting point is 00:48:41 You can't appreciate it without the smack, smack. Look at the fucking physique on this animal. I mean, Josh Hammond is just a ball muscle. Bro, that guy hits- It sounded like somebody smacked a 2x4 like against a garbage can. Bro, if that guy hits anybody, they go night night. I mean, anybody. Damn.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Anybody. He had this fight with Michael Johnson and it was a, Michael Johnson's a really good fighter like he knocked out Dustin Poirier at one point, damn, Michael Johnson's very very legit and Michael Johnson's winning the fight and Josh Emmett catches him with one punch and just shuts him off. Watch this. So Michael Johnson is winning this fight. Boom. Boom. One shot, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:29 One shot. I mean, crazy power, man. I mean, his power is preposterous. He's got the total, what Farah Sahabi calls the touch of death. That's the touch of death. He's got it better than anybody in the sport. The touch of death. But that Ilia Taporia guy that just knocked out Volkanowski, he's got the touch of death. He's got it better than anybody in the sport, the touch of death. But that Ilya Toporya guy that just knocked down
Starting point is 00:49:48 Volkanowski, he's got the touch of death too. There's guys that just- These guys are getting bigger. Nope, they're just getting stronger, but their technique's getting better. It's like any sport, it just keeps. Whew. There's a lot of factors.
Starting point is 00:50:00 There's a lot of factors to having that kind of power. And some of it is just pure genetics. Some of it is just, just got lucky you got that frame Whatever it is like Josh. He's built like if you look at its body It's just like a fucking tank just his ball of muscle and he gets so much force into it and That's just a gigantic advantage if you use it correctly like to pour it does did you see that fight with to pour in Volkanovsky? I still don't know all the names I know a handful of names the featherweight title this past weekend no Alexander Volkanovsky was
Starting point is 00:50:31 trying to defend his title against Ilya Toporya and Volkanovsky been dominant in this division forever he's and Toporya put him to sleep man. Yeah, they'll lead up to the fight Yeah, to poor you he put him to sleep. It was wild to see man. This kid is a fucking monster And he's only 27 years old and he said he was gonna do it. He said I'm gonna knock him out in the second round Well do any of those guys go and go like you know, I my chances are about 50-50 on this one. No. No. Some guys have respect, you know, for their opponents. Right. They say things like, he's a great champion.
Starting point is 00:51:12 That's no fun though. Yeah. That's no fun. This is the talk shit sport. It is. And it hypes up the match. Gets everybody going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Fucking. And it's also part of the psychological warfare, because that shit works. Yeah. Especially on some people. Some people like Nate Diaz doesn't work at all You can talk shit to him all day like that does not gonna change anything about the kind of ass weapon You're gonna get but for some guys it fucks with their head hardcore They just have a really hard time with someone talking shit about them and they get real emotional It's a lot of sports a lot of fucking even in my business. Mm-hmm. Yeah and they get real emotional. It's a lot of sports, a lot of fucking
Starting point is 00:51:42 even in my business in music. Yeah. You see people when that red light comes on, when you're doing something like live or taped to television or whatever, you see people when that red light comes on, I even have band members. I like 10 of them, that's usually one.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Somebody just fucking can't keep it together and fucks up. It's just one of those things, it's just something about having that fucking cool, calm, collective fucking mindset when you go into anything that's stressful or high energy, whatever it might be. How difficult was it for you when you first started getting famous? Because you go from being a regular dude to being kid rock in not a lot of time. What was it like getting pussy?
Starting point is 00:52:26 No, it was like being the man. And just like- That's pretty much what it was. But was it stressful? Was it like hard to deal with? Fuck no. Wasn't it awesome? It was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I love it. It's the greatest fucking shit on earth. I'm like, I have to worry about fucking buying food. Like I'm gonna be able to put my kid through college at this point. We're getting a new fucking house, and we're getting a new car. Fucking get a nice seat at the restaurant. Fucking, no problem with that.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I'm not one of those people that bitch about it. It's so tough. What do you think about people that can't handle it? Like, what do you think it is? Fucking get away from it. Britney Spears, move back to wherever the fuck you're from. Where's she from? Arkansas or Louisiana or something?
Starting point is 00:53:09 I don't know. Somewhere down there? Get the fuck out of LA. That place is eating you fucking alive. I think Britney's in Vegas now, right? Oh, so much better. Yeah, it's better for health. You know, I'm not gonna do heroin anymore. I've stepped it down to crack.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And gambling. There's ways to get away from it. There's ways, trust me, you know this too. So many of these people, because I've been here and seen this first fucking hand of the front row seat, half these people are telling these people, they're feeding the machine through a source
Starting point is 00:53:43 to get their story told. They're telling them where they're gonna be at So the paparazzi's there. Yeah, it's a fucking game. It's a publicity game It's weird and it works. You can make a lot of money that way Like that's what the Kardashians did Works out well god bless him solid business model for them worked. Like if you just want to make money, that's the way to do it. I will never get the big ass thing. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I just, right over my head. You don't like big asses at all? No. Really? You like them little? Just fucking small white pancake ass with huge tits. Every man has his time. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Everybody has his type. But there's like this fucking ass movement in the last 10, somebody was like, it's awesome. It's awesome to watch. Watching rap videos and shit. It's fucking great. I'm like, really? That's all right. You just don't know what the appeal is. None.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Wow. None. I don't think I could be further from you in that department. I love a good ass. Yeah. A big girl that looks like she could squat. Sly stone, different strokes for different folks. Girls who are like they can pick up heavy kettlebells.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Oh, God. I don't have a heavy kettlebell. I'm working with a-pound hand weight down here Difference jokes for different folks and isn't that the message anyway? Yeah, totally really what it should be I'd say everything against it. I'm just saying I don't get it. Yeah, I get that you don't get it and That's okay. You got like a 1970 sensibility. Yeah the Catherine Bach days. Oh, yeah, Duke's Hazards. Oh fuck I'm how hot she was see if a girl with a huge ass drove drove up in the general E. I'd definitely be excited That lady was so pretty. Oh my god. I remember watching that show
Starting point is 00:55:38 Thinking that's not even possible to be that pretty. How the fuck is she that pretty all those shows love boat? Fantasy Island Duke's a hazard. How the fuck is she that pretty? All those shows, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, Duke's of Hazard. How about Charlie's Angels? Charlie's Angels. Charlie Hot Chicks out there solving crimes. Fuck yeah, with guns. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha guy in the suit like fucking he's got an accent oh fuck turn it up was there always a lesson in fantasy island like they didn't really need what they were asking for and they should have just like stayed where they were wasn't there
Starting point is 00:56:11 like those kind of messages I don't remember did fantasy wasn't it be kind of like careful what you wish for yeah those are always that way you know it's always there's always like a trick the The genie's got a trick. Careful what you wish for. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's never like, oh yeah, and then I'm gonna be the king of the world and everything works out great. Yeah, if one wish,
Starting point is 00:56:35 I'm gonna wish for a million wishes, that would kill you, right? If you do that, they get real mad. Like now you abuse the wish. Totally. Imagine if that was real Imagine if genies were real we're just all looking at my jealous of Ricky Schroeder on Silver Spoons I'm like fuck look all these kids got a fucking train in his living room man. How cool is that?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Pimball machines everywhere shit. I'm like fuck that looks awesome It's not like I grew up without it's from a very middle upper-class family We had everything we needed. We had swimming pool and tennis court and shit, all that. But I was like, fuck Silver Spoon. You're like, we don't have money like that. That's some other shit. That's what social media is doing times 10, right?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah. Imagine being a kid today and just dealing with all this social media shit. Trying to keep up with the Joneses. Impossible. Yeah. I think it's even worse, like I have, well my granddaughter's nine,
Starting point is 00:57:29 but I have nieces who are teenagers and going through all that stuff and it's, man, the influence it has over them. And then what the other kids say and then what they're all saying on social media and what the new trend is and what the new this, I think it's always been that way, but now it's just exaggerated times a thousand because everything's right there.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's a difficult thing for adults to handle in the emotional aspect of going back and forth with people and comments and stuff and the whole world is commenting on things. When they're doing that to each other, the kind of pressure that they're putting under them, no kids have ever experienced that before. No kids have ever grown up with that before. This is a totally new pressure. And if you look at the data, it's like suicide went up, self harm went up, depression went up, it's not healthy.
Starting point is 00:58:14 It's not normal. And we're all- I think it's a devil. I said that the year Twitter came out, you might be able to look this up. I care, I think it was't Rolling Stone or somewhere or whatever. Like, what do you think about Twitter? And I said, Twitter's fucking gay.
Starting point is 00:58:29 This is, Spraywick came out. And so as time went on, cause I always saw people like having a subway sandwich for lunch or whatever. I'm like, no one gives a fuck. Oh, right, the early days. Yeah, like, can I get promoting stuff and this, that, and the other fucking getting a rise out of somebody stirring the pot?
Starting point is 00:58:45 But then the funny part was years later, you know, Twitter blew up to be this huge fucking thing. And they're like, this fucking reporter's getting kind of snooty with me. And he's like, you said, and I quote, Twitter's gay. I'm like, no fucking way. I go, I didn't say that shit. I go, and I'm so sick of you fuckers in the media
Starting point is 00:59:04 misquoting me every time, every opportunity you get. I said, to be clear, I said Twitter is fucking gay. All right, get it right. The, I got your questions like that. You said, that's why I stopped doing interviews like 10, so many years ago. Because you know, you used to have to promote something called every radio station and every market.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It's like that would be part of your day, get up early, which I was not good at back then. These days I'm up at 3.30, but it's not good at the back in these days. So like get up early, call all these different places, all these things like weekly. And it turned into, as the internet and social media started becoming prevalent, it turned into, I got internet and social media started becoming prevalent, it turned
Starting point is 00:59:45 into, I gotcha. Because that was the headline. And as my publicist used to say, dude, you speak in fucking headlines because you have no fucking filter. And I'm like, I don't. It's going to be very tough to change that. So it was always this, you know, be your buddy, say some nice things, you do records, great, blah, blah, blah, then like fucking get you on the line with something.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Of course, I go off the fucking rails. And then you fucking, that's all you hear about. And it just, you do records, great, blah, blah, blah, then like fucking get you on the line with something. Of course I go off the fucking rails. And then fucking that's all you hear about. And it just, you know. Well that's what they wanna do. They still do. They only have a couple of minutes with you. They wanna say something outrageous or question you in a way that's gonna go viral.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And I just got tired of dealing with it. That's like fucking. And I feel bad for so many reporters that were so good to me, especially in Detroit. You know, that I just kinda, I think a lot of them took it personal. I've been meaning to contact them for all these years and say like, hey, I'm gonna do stuff with you again.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I'm starting to come out of it. I'm doing your show. I'm like, I get it. I got some stuff to promote. I'm like, but I just didn't, like if I never saw another fucking TV camera interview again, I'd be fine. I'd be totally fucking fine, like I don't need to be
Starting point is 01:00:49 on fucking good morning America every week. I don't give a fuck. But you don't have to, you have a beautiful setup. Well I'm very blessed to not have to. The way you're living your life is amazing. I don't want to overshadow that. I'm extremely blessed. Oh, I know you appreciate it, but like,
Starting point is 01:01:03 the way you're living, like I've talked on this podcast many times But you give me the tour of your house And what even don't oh by the way you got that wrong What did I get wrong you can he said so much my girl listens to you religiously my fiancee She's and she'll always play me the hot clips, you know, right? Shit and shit and what that one was up on me and you're like he's got a golden shower I'm like a golden shower. That's like pissing on somebody. It's a gold bathroom The whole bathrooms gold. Yeah, there's a shower the showers not golden. No, it wasn't in place yet No, it's just I just seen the tile and it was golden and someone told me it was a golden shower
Starting point is 01:01:41 I was like that's the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life. The golden urinal. But the walls were gold. Yeah, yeah. Everything was gold. Dude. It was before, when I went into it, it was before everything was installed. It was at 3, 4 years ago? Yeah, I think it was 3 years ago. You had no idea how hard it was to find gold toilets.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Not joking. Now you can go on Google and you pump them up. Well, I had to get the seat gold-plated because I couldn't find it. I found a gold toilet, couldn't find a seat in a lid. And fucking God, I had to like, you know, cheaply gold-plated. Well, gold is a weird... You ever see what they can do with gold? They can take a little tiny piece of gold and cover this whole table? Absolutely. I get so much shit gold-plated, 18 carat, 24 carat gold-plated. Look at that, bro. You got a gold-pure. Where the fuck did you get that? The internet. Fuckin' hey, that's on the internet. Bro, look at that The internet that's on the internet bro look at that that's amazing a gold urinal
Starting point is 01:02:37 Your house is incredible I describe it to everybody. I'm like there's two bedrooms It's bigger than the actual White House I got two. I think your house is bigger than the actual white I know I think so. No, I think yes. Somebody was telling me that no fucking way Yeah, I was like a hundred thousand square feet. Sure. Yeah, that thing looks a little I've looked it up Isn't it but the White House has more than one house, right? Like there's two there's more than levels is underground Basement main floor then you go up and up to the to the main residence and they have tunnels that go out to you know To the other side to the V please place with a volt with a bowling alley isn't shit
Starting point is 01:03:10 Bros at the dumbest idea of all time to tell everybody what your president's gonna be all the time What a fucking dumb idea oh he's in this super visible house is just a house I think they're pretty protective over there. How protective can you be? If you've watched those Instagram drone videos. The airspace is shut down. Okay, 55,000 square feet. All right, I'm on the wrong.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I thought your house was bigger. No, it's 27 or something. But what your house is is... But it's on 200 acres, not 18. Well, your house is exactly if an 18-year-old kid won the lottery. Oh, 100%. And said, you can have any house you want.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I want a fucking giant room for jacuzzi's with like exposed beams, like a collapsed mine. I'm like, this is amazing. I joke with my friends when we're touring. I love to get people tours. I'm proud of it. You know what I've done? And hard work and shit. And it's one of my favorite things to do. And I joke with them friends when we're touring. I love to get people tours. I'm proud of it. You know what I've done and hard work and shit.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And it's one of my favorite things to do. And I joke with them all the time. And it's pretty serious. I'm like, if I had this fucking house 15 years ago, somebody I'd be dead. I'd be fucking dead. There's no question. It's an amazing setup, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Thank you. You made a party house. It's perfect, beautiful view, great place party house. It's perfect. Beautiful view. Great place to be. It's fucking awesome. I believe if there were an advertiser it would be a great place to entertain. Yeah. An entertainer's dream.
Starting point is 01:04:33 An entertainer's dream. Yeah. If you were trying to sell that, oh boy. What is it, about 27,000 square feet? How big is it? Yeah. But the only reason I put the elevator in is because I'm going to die there. I was like, I'm going to need to get up and down these floors one day.
Starting point is 01:04:48 That elevator is amazing too. That's an elevator. Funny one, the architect, you know, that's probably my second favorite thing outside, passion outside of, you know, be a close second with haunting and the outdoors. You know, his music is interior design and architecture. And so I'm designing a house with, I'd use an architect obviously for many reasons, but he's like, I sure you want to put the elevator
Starting point is 01:05:13 right in the foyer of the main entrance. He goes, you know, most people hide it, you know, off to the back by a laundry room or something. I'm like, yeah, I want to run in the fucking middle. I want it gold so people walk in. And I kid rocks, yeah, I want to run the fucking middle. I want it gold. So people walk in and like, kid rocks got a fucking elevator. Yeah. Put it right out front, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Yeah. This is the house for ballers. This is a house of learning doctors and ballers. That's an amazing story. That's how I would do it. Well, you built something, right? No, I bought a house. I bought a house here. But if how I would do it. Well, fun. You built something, right? No, I bought a house. I bought a house right here.
Starting point is 01:05:47 But if I was going to build a house, I'd build a house like that. I think what I want to do is I want to build a podcast ranch. I've been thinking a lot about that lately. This is a good, you got a lot of cool shit here, but you can take all this and I've already figured out your lighting here for you. I was telling the guys up front. So there's several spaces here and there's a lot of light switches. I've already figured out your lighting here for you. I was telling the guys up front. Oh really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 So there's several spaces here and there's a lot of light switches. I noticed already just from doing a small tour. Fuck Lutron, fuck Crestron, fuck that automated shit. What you do, you might be able to do the whole building. If not, you can do it in sections that make sense. Like this whole front thing, everything's on dimmers and there's one switch. When strategically placed, when you walk out of the door and maybe somewhere by your office or something, all hooked up to the same breaker.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Click. Like when I walk into my studio where you've been down there or whatever, things like 10,000 square feet, there's two light switches. Shut everything off in there. Three, because one in the studio. It never breaks. It works perfectly. When you turn it on, you're ready to rock.
Starting point is 01:06:43 If the cleaning people need to do something, they can adjust the dimmer up or down. And it's the cheapest, smartest, most efficient fucking thing you can do. Mmm. Good advice from Kid Rod. I love that shit. I love that shit. Yeah. That's, that's good advice.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Yeah, this place is a little chaotic. But this used to be, well, I can't say that. I can't talk too much about it, what it used to be. But we, um, I've been thinking about doing something in a place where we could do a lot of other shit too. Just putting a fucking- Like a place with a lake. Runway.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You can definitely get somewhere with a runway out here. If you really travel far out. You're doing so well, you're so successful. Have, get a chopper. So you could bring the people, like what a cool experience. They fly to your ranch because you're gonna you're gonna get More value the farther you go out. Yeah, but I limit my time in those fucking things. Oh, I do too Rock-and-roll with choppers don't mix they freak me out a little bit me too. Yeah, they took out Steve Ray Vaughan
Starting point is 01:07:37 Didn't it Jim Crow? Was it a plane crash that took out Steve Ray Vaughan or helicopter coming out of Alpine Valley? up in Wisconsin Jim Croce is a million. I'm a scary one to die at. A buddy, T. Roy from, uh, what's called, uh, my gum rejuntry. Bill Burr has his own helicopter license and he took me out. I took lessons. Did you?
Starting point is 01:08:00 I took lessons for a while. I had this grand idea when I was younger, when I first started getting fucking money and I'm like, I'm gonna get a fucking helicopter. I'm gonna get a cold. Ten thousand, ten thousand fuck, yeah, exactly. I would. Hundred percent. Gold flake. Fuck yeah. I was like, it looked like a low rider. I was gonna get like ten thousand acres in the middle of nowhere, build my fucking little fucking redneck empire and then, so I started taking
Starting point is 01:08:24 these lessons in a single engine Robinson and I let my hand off the collective a couple of times and like, you know, the fucking, the teacher's like, do you, what the fuck did you do that? I'm like, you didn't tell me not to fucking do that. Blah, blah, blah. And then what really was a deal breaker. I'm like, I know myself. I'm like, we'll be sitting around getting tuned up.
Starting point is 01:08:44 And I'll be like, you guys don guys want to get the chopper out? Go for a spin. Oh my god, drone flying. Oh yeah. I was like, could you imagine? No, let's make enough money to ride in the back. Yeah, the only times that I've been in one, I'm like, keep it together. Keep it together.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It feels like you're in a flying football helmet. It seems so fragile. They seem so fragile when you're in them, they're like, ooh. I'll never get in a single engine. And anything again that flies, never. Everything that flies is based on a system of two. Two fuel pumps, two engines, two everything.
Starting point is 01:09:24 You can go without one of them. So your odds are pretty good when those things fuck up. Mainly speaking about planes, it's pilot error, probably 90 some percent of the time. There was a recent private jet that crashed. Yeah, in LA. Yeah, what was the story about? Yeah, Challenger 300.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Couple people got out of the back and the pilots died. Yeah, yeah, the people survived, which is crazy if you look at the footage. The passengers died. Yeah. Yeah, the people survive which is crazy If you look at the foot passengers really on the highway. Oh, Jesus Christ, dude. That's insane. I thought that was oh my god It is in Florida. Okay, right? Dude, that is so wild to see watch this land. Watch this happen again Yeah, do it from the beginning because the the beginning, watch this, watch this land. This is so crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:07 That's a kind of plane. That's a kind of plane I got. Look at that, bro. Fuck. I mean, how insane is that? And I think it was three people came out of the back. Yeah, the pilots. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Amazing. Oh, damn. They just had to just land it on the fucking highway. Holy shit, man. Imagine trying to land a plane and knowing you're going to take out those cars and you're probably not going to land anyway. You're probably not going to be able to pull it off anyway. You don't have any engines anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm scary. Oh, my God. It's scary just not being in control of anything. Yeah. At least for me, I'm a bit of a control freak. Like just not being in control of any situation, especially when it's something like that, that always, yeah. That's what makes you think a little bit more. That's why when things aren't a meritocracy and you're hiring because you want things
Starting point is 01:10:59 to be inclusive, you're not getting the best people working on your fucking airplanes and flying your airplanes. You're not getting the best people. What are you doing? Like that is one of the scary, but especially like airlines. That is one of the scariest fucking methods of transportation, whether it's the safest, it's arguable it is very safe, relatively, but it's one of the scariest for people. It gives them the most anxiety because you give up all control You're hoping that the pilots can keep it together. You're hoping that the equipment's been tested correctly
Starting point is 01:11:31 You're hoping that everybody like tightens every bolt and checks every fucking well They you hoping they do a really good job like they they're really good at it They do do a pretty good job overall like and I'll even say, you know, like, you know, just a lot, like this is a place that makes sense for regulations. Yeah. You know what I mean? That as somebody who's very, you know, very right of center, you know, less regulations on most things, that's something that makes sense. And they have a lot of good ones in place, you know, it's, they, you just can't fucking jump in a plane like when something like that happens. It's something fucked up Yeah, be interesting to see when they you know do their investigation what happened exactly
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah, it would be interesting like how does it how do you get a double engine failure? That sounds insane Or maybe like when Sully, you know landed that on the Hudson River was you know geese or whatever right or something like that Okay, that's you know, you know, I've flown out of many airports where they go out there with shotguns before just to boom, get with blanks just to get the, you know, geese out of there. And they actually let you hunt them at some of certain times of years. Like I know Metro Airport Detroit, there was a congressman that asked they had a special permit to go over there and hunt them at certain times of the year. And I loved bird hunt. Yeah. They try to keep populations down.
Starting point is 01:12:45 They have snipers. They do a lot of different things to keep, they try a bunch of different methods to keep ducks and pigeons and shit. Because how many planes have been taken out by birds? Probably quite a few, huh? It's becoming more common. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:59 You never know if something's more common or is the media just that much more accessible with everything. I always wonder with that. As population grows, things make sense that it gets more of whatever. But you just don't know in this day and age. There's fucking how many 24-7 news channels all trying to report and get an exclusive story.
Starting point is 01:13:21 That's like, you know. And some of them just straight up gaslighting you. Oh yeah. Gaslighting you. Oh, yeah. Gaslighting you on the news. If I shit my pants right now, like just legit shit my fucking pants, like it would be the biggest story of this week, maybe next week. It'll be a big one. That loser, he shit his pants.
Starting point is 01:13:39 As if it's never happened to you. Well, it's not like the left wing media is reporting any good stuff I do. No. Well I'm just in their sights. We need is a non-wing media. That's what we need. There should be value in just the news and that's what Dr. Phil wants to do. That's supposed to be the AP. Yeah it's supposed to be, but it's not anymore. Because I think journalists at some point in time, at least corporate journalists, a big percentage of them decided that they're working towards a better future. They're like their activists. And I think some of those people are not very charismatic.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And people don't like them that much. They just happen to be on television. But why do many of these people refuse to retire? Because now they have a career. That's all they have. It's their identity. It's their identity. Like the 75 years old plus, they refuse to go away.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yeah, they won't go away. And they also want to give their opinions all the time. A lot of these people want to give their opinions on things. Yeah, I want someone who's actually, if they're in the media, who has consequences on their opinions. When you're fucking 77, you know, and you're, what's her name from ABC or whatever,
Starting point is 01:14:50 like who's crying at fucking Hillary Clinton's, you know, when she lost the election, who reports fucking world news, you're like, she has nothing to fucking lose. That's not a journalist. No, I want somebody who's young, has a family, like you have shit to actually lose if you're going to sway things a set and the other and get called out on it if you're in the media. If you want to talk shit, join a band.
Starting point is 01:15:12 I just feel like we need objective news with no spin at all. Absolutely. And not coming out of a place where you don't want to report on a certain thing because it makes Trump look good. Not, you know, just look at what are the facts? What are we dealing with? Like, what are we dealing with in terms of the economy? What are we dealing with in terms of international conflict?
Starting point is 01:15:32 What are the facts? What's actually happening? Don't twist it in some weird, liberal or conservative way. If they went by facts and things like that, there's no one but been better than Trump. The shit he got done, and if you just look at the numbers in his record, forget about all the noise. You see that guy was one of the founders of Facebook who talked about it, and he said it was the right message, but the wrong messenger. He talked about all the different things that Trump did that it turns out it worked. But I even though we're friends, I, even before we became good friends, like I understood
Starting point is 01:16:08 this is I think a lot of people did not, not a ton, a good amount of people understood that there's a method to that, to what people call madness. When he says, you know, like, fucking Russia, go after fucking Poland if you don't want to pay your fair share of NATO. My sense tells me, no, he's never going to let that happen. But he's going to fucking go in there and fucking let them know you're going to pay your fucking money. He's not going to let that happen.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I would say in my heart and the way I feel there's no fucking way to let that happen. It's like when he's telling certain countries, you know, like, if you're going to go into Ukraine, I'll fucking blow up Moscow. Even if they only believe in 5%, fucking keeps him out. You know what I mean? The guy knows how to fucking go in and get shit done and talk business-wise and make
Starting point is 01:16:56 these statements and this then, and they don't know what the fuck he's going to do. But I have to say, when he was in office, by me, he did the right thing pretty much every fucking time Everything he did for this country whether it was keeping the border in check fucking everybody working include minorities energy fucking Independence build the fucking military up keep us out of fucking wars. I mean the list goes on and on I Think if people could look at it without his personality attached to it They'd be able to see that but that's one of the most amazing things the media has done is they've turned a guy who was a celebrity, who was beloved, who was the host of the celebrity apprentice on
Starting point is 01:17:32 NBC. So Linsky was a celebrity. Everyone puts him on the highest fucking pedestal. Like, oh, he's the greatest fucking. It's like, yeah. Well, that's confusing too, right? Super confusing. That whole thing, when the left is calling for war and the left wants war, that's like,
Starting point is 01:17:51 what has happened to the world? Trump just said the smartest thing. Everything he says to me is fucking great, but smartest thing is like, we should not. I've kind of spoke about this with family and friends for the years, like, why do we keep getting these wars, giving countries this fucking money and we get nothing in return There should be a fucking loan or we should fucking we should take land or natural resources that they can buy back one day With a small interest or something. Why are we just giving fucking money away giving our resources? Oh, you know the fucking trillions we spent
Starting point is 01:18:25 in Afghanistan and Iraq? So what's the answer to that? Why did they do that? I have no fucking idea. I wish I had the answer. I'm not smart enough to know that. Yeah, there's probably someone who could probably illuminate it for us, but.
Starting point is 01:18:39 What, like, does the debt matter? I don't understand how the debt fucking matters. I don't get it. National debt? Yeah. Everyone's always bitching about the debt, but we don't understand how the debt fucking matters. I don't get it. National debt? Yeah. Everyone's always bitching about the debt, but we just fucking keep spending money. No business survives like that. That's just common sense.
Starting point is 01:18:52 But they keep doing it. I'm like, it must not matter because we have the biggest bomb. It's like trying to collect from the biggest bully in school. Like, hey, where's my $20? He's like, I'll beat your ass. Like, okay, I'll get it next year. Who do we owe all that money to? They say China.
Starting point is 01:19:04 They say this country, that. I'm like... Imagine, I'll get it next year. Who do we owe all that money to? You know, they say China, they say this country, that. I'm like, imagine if China just bought America if like one day they're like, oh, we owe us. Imagine if they tried to collect. Look at all the people, usdecloc.org. Oh my God, look at how much money. 34 trillion. Yo, look at how crazy this is.
Starting point is 01:19:22 When you watch this. It's so insane Yet, they're like hey, we need to send another 60 billion here We need to fucking a hundred billion for this the thousands just look how quick the thousands go by the National debt there's another hundred. It's insane to watch It's so weird in New York City debt Debt per citizen, $101,960. Debt per taxpayer, $265,178 per taxpayer. I don't understand how that works. That's so insane.
Starting point is 01:20:01 But I've never heard it. How is that sustainable? I've never never heard it explained I've heard politicians Bitch about it, and we you know our debt and this that and the other I'm like I don't get it Why does it keep going up if we can't afford it? My conclusion is we can clearly fucking afford it. We just print some more fucking money or whatever. I don't get it Have you ever heard that explained no I? Never realized it was that bad to watch in that clock. There's something about knowing the number but seeing the number move in real time.
Starting point is 01:20:31 That's just terrifying. How does it, I don't understand how this makes sense. Okay, many people believe that much of US national debt is owed to foreign countries like China and Japan, but the truth is that most of it is owed to social security and pension funds right here in the US This means that US citizens own most of the national debt. It's a fucking scam. It's a giant Ponzi scheme It's a Ponzi scheme. It's a Ponzi scheme I just went around
Starting point is 01:21:03 Yeah, we need that $100,000. We're gonna pay off the debt. What the fuck? Crazy. What the fuck? We owe it to ourselves? Okay. It sounds like Debbie Downer and negative Nancy over here with her.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Yeah, what are we doing? We're punching ourselves. Let's talk about fun shit. Yeah. Well, it's not, you know, just something that just comes up. If you're having a conversation about why the world is crazy and you can't find a single example. Politics never came up years ago. Do you ever remember that? No. I remember if it came up as like who you voting for big none of your fucking business. Yeah, like in the 80s and the 90s who fucked talked about politics. Meanwhile. I'm looking in the mirror with a fucking mag I had on a trough
Starting point is 01:21:52 I'm the biggest fucking provocateur and offender of this Yeah, but you're also a guy who's like fed up You know you're fed up with There's a narrative that the world got fed. Yeah, I just love my country too much. But it's a stupid narrative. You know, it's... Which one?
Starting point is 01:22:14 Well, the narrative... First of all, the narrative that right and left are really that separate from each other. Most people care about the same things. Holy. All my left-wing friends, I got plenty of them. Look at my fucking band. You wanna talk about DEI? We got fucking gay black lesbians, fucking rednecks, fucking females, fucking men,
Starting point is 01:22:35 black, white, fucking, that wasn't done by like, oh, we need to mix this up. It was like, we want the best people. And not only that are best for whatever they play or whatever their instrument, musical talent is, but also people that we knew could get along and could spend time as a family. Like you hear these horror stories about so many bands
Starting point is 01:22:57 hate each other, this, that and the other, and like we've never had that fucking problem. Sure we've had disagreements and fuck you and this, that and the other, but fucking for 25 some years, like everyone loves each other and gets along. And fucking politics all different across the fucking board. And I just came to a point where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:23:14 look, you gotta vote, I don't give a fuck who it's for. I was like, you gotta vote or you're out of the fucking band. Which is a fucking threat I probably never followed through with, but I'm like, just let them know, you just gotta fucking vote. Well, that's the difference between social media and real life. In real life, you can be friends with people with all sorts of different opinions, because if they're good people, you can talk.
Starting point is 01:23:38 You can talk even if you disagree. And you'll find more in common, and you don't have in common. Much more. It's so simple. Everybody wants basic things. They want friendship love Family they want to be successful in whatever they're trying to pursue in life, and they want to be safe Everybody wants that those are the primary things we all agree on It's the most important things that all of us want in our life Then the other stuff when it starts getting on the fringes, like trans women competing
Starting point is 01:24:05 as by, with biological females, like now you're out there in crazy land and that's getting the majority of the attention. But that's not the majority of our fucking problems. The majority of our problems, we all kind of agree on keeping things safe and educating kids. We disagree on the paths to get there to those things. And that's great. That's what makes America great, is thinking differently.
Starting point is 01:24:28 But instead of thinking so much about the things that we disagree on, which I think are insane, and how many people have been incited by bullshit stories in the media, and it's changed your narrative on all the people running for president, whether it's gaslighting you about Biden or gaslighting you about Trump. They're just bullshitting, trying to get whatever narrative they want out there. They don't really give a fuck if it's the truth. Well, and not only that, the truth can be spun so many different ways. Facts and numbers can be spun so many different ways, where it's like you teeter that line
Starting point is 01:25:01 where it's not really a lie, but it's not the whole truth. What's really wild is that the people behind Biden are willing, like if he wasn't fucking up as much as he is, if they could just kind of keep him out of the limelight for a while, they're willing to run him again. Could they keep him out of the limelight any more than they do? What they're saying is they're running the country without the president, right? That's essentially what they're saying. Absolutely. And that's what that report says. That report says he's not there, okay?
Starting point is 01:25:30 So if he's not there, then you know he's not really running things. And if he's not really running things, that means the people that are running things are now not the president. Insanity. And they'd like to keep it that way. Insanity. And they'd like to keep it that way. Well, that seems fucking nuts.
Starting point is 01:25:46 That is not what we signed up for. We didn't sign up for these unelected people that are working under the administration taking care of everything. We did not sign up for that. It's hilarious to me that a lot of the extreme leftist people, you know, they have this thing where like, you know, older white men are the fucking devil
Starting point is 01:26:06 They just are and so what do they do? Yeah, this is the most diverse there was a thing that the White House Press Secretary lady was going on about how diverse the cabinet is Sean Claude Pierre and one dude gets caught the first the cabinet is. Sean Claude Pierre? And then one dude gets caught butt fucking in one of the Senate rooms. Oh God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:28 You see that? What the fuck? And then there's another person who's like a trans influencer pulled her tits out on the lawn, took photos of her tits out of the White House lawn. It's almost like we gotta compete on the right. It's like, hey, hey, we got George Santos. That's hilarious. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:26:46 That's hilarious. Fucking weirdos, man. That dude's a hoot. Fucking cuckoo. He's fun to listen to. He's fun in those interviews, man. He goes off. He's sassy.
Starting point is 01:26:56 As long as he doesn't have access to your finances or? Yeah. Seems like he might be an H-U-S-T-L-E-A hustler. About that That went the other day because I'm always trying to do comparisons to Trump and Biden for people that they know my friendship, my love for Trump's politics, everything. And I don't like the way he talks and he speaks and like, okay, look, you fucking, you need an emergency medical procedure. You're in Los Angeles and you have to get to Santa Barbara. The only people that can drive you there
Starting point is 01:27:29 that are available are Trump and Biden. Fucking pick one. Right. That's good. Yeah, but he shouldn't be driving anywhere. There's no way Biden should be driving. That's not fair. He's having trouble walking.
Starting point is 01:27:42 He can't do anything. They don't really want him as president. They just want him to get them into power again. That's what fair. He's having trouble walking. He can't do anything. They don't really want him as president They just want him to get them in to power again. That's what it is. It's people what running the show behind the scenes I mean Karine Jean Pierre. How do you say her name? She got busted using his account Karine Karine Abdul Jabbar. Did you see that? What happened she got busted using his account to tweet. I didn't see that she fucked up forgot to change accounts So she tweets as the president. Like, you gotta see this.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Ah, you know, people fuck up, make mistakes. I know, but it's just fun to see the wiring under the board. It's fun to see how the sausage is made. This is not really the president. The wizard is just a small angry guy. It's literally weakened at Bernie's. This should be impersonation. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Investing in America means investing in all all caps of America. When I ran for president, I made a promise that I would leave no part of the country behind. And she put it out. She put it out under her chair. Bro, when they say things like that and they tweet when presidents like Biden tweet it. It's like Trying to get wisdom from a fortune cookie. It's like the other dumbest little quotes like who's who's who read that? It's like yeah, he did and he's doing a great job. I bet fucking Reagan would have been good at it
Starting point is 01:29:00 I think most of the people that are supporting Biden online are bots. I Think there's a lot of people that are genuine Democrats and are supporting Biden don't get me wrong those but some of the some of the nuttiest Pro-Biden stuff Despite like no matter what happens no matter what kind of gaffe makes we're so embarrassing And if it was your dad you would want to my good get get dad get dad we got to get him off the stage dad, you would want him like, get dad, get dad. We got to get him off the stage. It'd be like, dad, you can't do this, dad, dad, dad.
Starting point is 01:29:27 It's over. We got to get you to a home. We got to get you some care. So I heard from a very good source. I can't confirm, but it was a very good source. That one, Biden met the Pope, he shit his pants. Did you hear that one? I hope he did.
Starting point is 01:29:43 That's amazing. I mean, I don't know if he did, but if he did, it's a funny story. This is a very good source. Damn. It's not fair. It's not fair to do that to an old guy, but that just shows you the mechanism behind the scenes that keeps the country running. It's a bunch of people working for the president, and now they're essentially pulling all the strings.
Starting point is 01:30:04 It's kind of wild. And those people definitely don't want to see Trump get into power because then they lose everything. What's like the last election? A lot of this stuff seems like it was done semi-behind the curtain. And now it seems they've come to a point where they're like, we don't give a fuck. Yeah, we're moving it from the ballots. We're coming right after this guy.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Yeah. Everything, we're going to find them $355 fucking million for where there was no one that got hurt in a fucking, as fucking insanity. Yeah, that's what the insane part about that is. Elon actually posted about that. Like, where's the money going? Where's the money going if there's no victims? If he didn't know anybody any money,
Starting point is 01:30:42 where's that money going? There's no one person that, a claimant, right? I hope he drops it off and fucking pennies, right? I just, Leticia James is front door in that fucking stupid judge. I'm just fascinated by watching it all play out. It's like they're doing it right in front of your face. Right in front of your face, like a banana republic style prosecuting of your political opponents, framing them in the worst way possible, getting judges to like, we tried to figure
Starting point is 01:31:10 this out and we tried to be as reasonable as possible. Let's figure out how anybody could ever value Mar-a-Lago at $18 million. Unbelievable. Well, you go to Google right now, look at blank property and Palm Beach. Yes. A couple acres will come up for $100 million on the water. He's got property, 18 acres on the water and the intercoastal. Just the land alone is insanely, insanely valuable. And then there's a palace on it. You tell me that's only worth $18 million. I'd buy three of
Starting point is 01:31:39 those. There's vacant land on Zillow. I would have been Palm Beach. I would sell them like that. The highest to lowest price. Bro. Something will come up for $100 million. It's two acres. I'm not even a real estate investor, but if I found that for sale for $18 million, I'd snatch that shit up and turn it right around. Right? You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:56 That's so biased to say that's $18 million, no matter what metric you're using. But think about it. That's insane. That's pretty much every day, every week, since this guy came down the escalator and announced he was running for president. It's been nonstop. And I can confirm that because I, I got on board pretty early before he got the nomination publicly and I've had shit thrown at me in my level.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Yeah. Just constantly nonstop. This guy's took it every fucking day. That's, that's why we call him Teflon Don. He is in, in an odd way, the only president that didn't age. They all rapidly age. I golf with that fucker all the time, man. Fucking unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:32:36 I was like, that doesn't miss a fairway. Hits a 250 yards right down the freaking middle. That's amazing. It's incredible. And that's his only point of exercise too, right? He's so smart when he's talking numbers and different things in his memory like everything. You're just like, man, it's mind boggling. Really? He's that smart. Really is. It's unbelievable. Has there ever been a turnaround like that before where like so many people love the guy
Starting point is 01:33:01 for his bombastic personality and then he becomes president and then they all hate him? You know when it all started, it all started. See the media would have you think that everyone hates him. No, no, most people love him. The reality is when you go to the UFC, I said when you, Tucker Carlson, him and Dana White walked in, it was like the Republican Avengers. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:33:21 It was the most insane reaction. It was like they have a super team. There's a super... Where was that one at? Well, I've seen you guys walking together in multiple times. New York for sure. Miami. Miami was a big one. But they were all nuts. Yes. New York was a banana. Yes. Banana. New York City. And that is a very diverse crowd, the UFC. Oh yeah, man. Oh yeah. The UFC is the most diverse crowd. Look at Tucker smiling. The UFC is filled with people from all walks of life. There's a giant lesbian fan population of the UFC.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I got a huge lesbian fan base. Do you really? Yeah, cause I had a couple of lesbians in my band. We always joke like back in the day, like the early days, like always be these fucking hot chicks in the front row showing their titties and shit, you know, just cool rock and roll shit. And like, so I started, I started, I got a great friend in a Toledo, Ohio, Dan McGurk.
Starting point is 01:34:15 And you know, he's got some, some issues and what do you call it, Down syndrome or whatever. And so he's posted a lot of things publicly. You know, I kind of stopped doing Make a Wish and I kind of took him for life. You know, he's my friend and I'm gonna be with this kid forever whether we go to a Pistons game or you know, he comes to all the shows, anything like that. So, but as a result of that,
Starting point is 01:34:38 and then having two lesbians in the band, like me and my guitar player a couple of years ago sitting there jamming on stage and we're like, boy man, shit's changed. And it's like three, four kids with down syndrome in the front and like four lesbians like hanging out. And like, wow, the times they are changing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:57 They are, right? You know one of my favorite songs of yours that I play in my green room playlist is run off to LA. Oh shit. I love that song. Deep cut. That's a f***ing great song, dude. That is a deep cut, but that's a great song.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Well those breakup songs. Yeah, but it's also like there's so many guys that get got, you know, to have a get the f*** out of here song, you know. Don't be f*** fucking with them Hollywood. Yeah, bro. There's some predators. Oh man, learned my lesson. I used to watch them move in on dudes at the sky bar.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Remember the sky bar? Yeah. I would call them the coyotes because you can see these like really aggressive hot Hollywood crazy ladies who would move in on these rich guys. And I remember I was watching this this bald chubby guy getting seduced by this girl and then and then she goes Do you like coke? And he's like, uh
Starting point is 01:35:58 Yeah, I like coke. Yeah, okay, and then I'm like, oh, she's got you She's got your buddy line and sink you. She's got you buddy. Client and sinker. And then she's gonna be moving in soon. Be moving out your shit. She's gonna move in soon. You're gonna marry her. Then she got you. Done. Yeah. It's like a real, like gold digging is a real business model, just like those
Starting point is 01:36:21 Nigerian princes. Gold digging is an interpersonal way of where crazy people can latch onto people's lives. It's fascinating to watch. No better place to do it than Hollywood, California. It's crazy. Because so many of these guys are like executives and back in the day at least and they were killing it back then. TV executives are out partying at the Mongeon. And the coyotes just move in. I knew a bunch of dudes who lost a bunch.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Well, my theory on Los Angeles, Cal or Hollywood is you get all these beautiful girls that migrate there. They want to make it at some level, want to do something. So wherever it doesn't matter where it is on earth, doesn't have to be Hollywood, wherever is a bunch of hot chicks, whether it's the local disco club in your town wherever, there's a bunch of fucking grease balls, bunch of fucking kooks. If there's a conglomerate of hot chicks hanging out in a concentrated area, it's a bunch
Starting point is 01:37:15 of fucking weirdo dudes, just a bunch of fucking creeps. That's five fucking like dive bars. Yeah. So it's just being a proximity to hot chicks. Yeah, it attracts every D bag on earth. That's probably true. Yeah, if they know that hot chicks are definitely gonna be there.
Starting point is 01:37:34 No one ever remember going to popular clubs, different places, and just, wow, there's a ton of hot chicks in there, and you look around and you're like, wow, there's a bunch of D bags in here too. I remember thinking of going, like when I was a kid, and I first started going to clubs,
Starting point is 01:37:47 like with my friends, go to a dance club or whatever, just being an idiot, like wearing Cavarichis and looking stupid. Fuck it, Paris you pants. And all I could think of is like, this is like the least productive way ever to meet somebody. Like I've never met anybody at one of these places.
Starting point is 01:38:02 It's always just me and my friends standing around looking stupid Trying to figure out how to meet girls. I didn't either until a fucking hit record. Yeah, but I fuck I look like the same dirt ball I look like now my whole life and like fucking couple hit record. Wow fucking Brad Pitt That's sexy motherfucker talent is the great equalizer Fuckin' God, that's sexy motherfucker. Talent is the great equalizer. Mm-hmm. It really is.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Talent is the great equalizer. If you have talent, you get back way above your head. Confirmed. It's everywhere. You see it all throughout Hollywood. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting how that stuff works.
Starting point is 01:38:43 It's never gonna change. No, it's never going to change. It's just, you're always going to have, the whole thing about Hollywood too is that you have to be chosen. Like most of the people that are out there are out there to be chosen for something. They're out to be chosen to get a record deal or chosen to be on a sitcom or chosen to be in a movie or chosen to be on a show. It's you have to be picked.
Starting point is 01:39:03 So you're always trying to figure out how to be more, how to fit in more. But the more true talent, like Rod Dogg talent, you have it, whatever it is, like it starts to negate some of that stuff. You still have to kiss the ring a little bit. I always called it, I always said, you know, when it came to radio, it was a whole fucking game
Starting point is 01:39:21 to play to that shit. I don't add a couple of radio hits. I always say I was willing to tickle some balls, but I would not insert penis in mouth. That's kind of my, do you think that's why? Because you had so many hit songs, but they weren't necessarily radio hits, is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yeah, well MTV was huge for me. So that was, that was even a better outlet than radio, but I've never had a number one song in America. I was never willing to do the fucking shit to get it there all over the world where I didn't have to do anything. Yeah, went number one in seven countries or something. My feeling was always like, okay, we have to at some level, when we're getting this big chance after I'd been knocked down this, that, and the other, and finally got my big
Starting point is 01:40:02 record deal in 1997. I was like, okay, this is do or die. Have to play a little bit of this game. It was one of the best, my most successful record, because that's kind of what I did, and it worked. And then after that, my philosophy was like, you know, I came out with a picture, and they're like, this is gonna kill your career.
Starting point is 01:40:19 You know, put on a fucking country song. I love that, that's also on my Spotify. They literally told me it was gonna kill my fucking career. Oh, that's so song. I love that song. That's also on my Spotify. They literally told me it was going to kill my fucking career. Oh, that's so crazy. That's a great song, man. Yeah, thank you. My mindset at that point was I want to try to make classic records, not hits. You know, something that'll stick around.
Starting point is 01:40:37 And it's hard to nail it. You know, I probably made a thousand songs. There's arguably, you know, handful of fucking great ones in there. You know, it's like being a photographer. You take a thousand pictures. You hope you get five good ones. Dude, you got, handful of fucking great ones in there. You know, it's like being a photographer. You take a thousand pictures, you hope you get five good ones. Dude, you got a lot of bangers. But I love picture. Cheryl Crowe.
Starting point is 01:40:53 That voice. She can sing. God damn. She can sing. There's a motion in that voice. Very talented. Our politics don't line up so well these days. I would imagine not.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Are you still friends? We're still friendly. We don't talk as much. You know what? That's suck. Yeah, we've... It's suck. We sat down recently talking about gun control. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Yeah, and I'm like, here's just like no one in this town will, you know, country heirs will talk to me about it this. And I'm like, yeah, it's... If you want gun control, you should, country, I don't know, so talk to me about it this. And I'm like, yeah, it's, if you want gun control, you should move back to LA or New York City. It's very prevalent there. That's just not kind of a Tennessee way of life.
Starting point is 01:41:31 I was like, and the scary thing about it is like, I could say like, okay, common sense gun law, if we actually had one to keep guns out of mentally disturbed people, I could take a serious look at that. And I know the NRA is gonna be all over for that. I don't fucking care. I can honestly take a serious look at that. And I know the NRA is going to be all over for that. I don't fucking care. I can honestly take a serious look at that. But the problem that I see in it, as soon as this common sense gun laws pass, written up by attorneys and people in politics, that none of us can really understand, they throw in some mumbo jumbo,
Starting point is 01:42:00 first thing's going to happen is, you see that crazy shit Kid Rock was saying and blackout drunk in his honky tonk? He's not mentally stable when you take his guns away. You know what I mean? It's like, where does that line get crossed and back and forth? And once there's another. That's the problem with the common sense law. It's like, it's not,
Starting point is 01:42:19 everybody doesn't have fucking common sense. That's a very good point. It's also a very good point that you can get experts to lie. We saw that during COVID. You can get experts to lie. And if you have mental health experts that decide that you're unstable for a political reason, for any reason. I could go out and find 10 people, a conglomerate of 10 people that hate Joe Rogan and get them to all get... You could say I'm mentally unstable, for sure. I probably admitted to being mentally unstable You could say I'm mentally unstable, for sure. I'm probably admitted to being mentally unstable in some way.
Starting point is 01:42:46 But it's not, you can't let people define that, because you're going to get people that are just using it to take away your rights. And then once they have that, now they've pushed past a certain line, they're going to push even further. It might get to a point where you're not allowed to have knives anymore. It might get to a point where you're not allowed to have knives anymore. It might get to a point where you can't have a sword in your house. What was their argument for years? Why would you need an AR-15 with a 30-round clip, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Well, 30 people breaking into your house. One word answer. Israel. Right. It's a great, great answer. You know, that was one of the craziest things I saw somebody tweet about Ukraine. All you people with AR-15s, you should be donating them to Ukraine. Like, do you not see what the fuck you're saying? We know that this is a real possibility with human beings that they can invade places and shoot people up. That's a real thing.
Starting point is 01:43:40 You want us to be unprepared? Why? How do we protect our politicians so well in our courthouses? Exactly. And everything else. Exactly. We can't do this for our schools. These anti-gun politicians are being protected by people with guns, brave people with guns.
Starting point is 01:43:54 And they live behind gates and walls. Exactly. They're protected. And they're getting away with pushing this nutty agenda. And what you need is better law enforcement, better trained, more law enforcement. But the problem is, the problem with guns. Who wants to be a fucking cop these days? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:11 They've made that a popular sport. Yeah, they fucked that up hard. Gosh. It'll be a long time for that recovery. I'm not saying every cop's good, there's good and bad and everything as we all know that have a smidge of common sense. Everything. You're gonna get bad actors in anything, anything, anything.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Anything in life. But overall, when your kid can't breathe and you call 911 and that cop shows up. Yes. Or someone's holding someone hostage or you need someone rescued or there's a real problem. Someone's shooting up a store. Shooting up a school and you see these cops and national go running in there. They were trained in the military Exactly not knowing what they're gonna face God bless exactly and that's those are the kind of people that you should fucking praise
Starting point is 01:44:52 That's most cops and it's not that's not the private schools my granddaughter goes to private school. They have security there They've taken precautions says what about the people that can't afford private school, which is the majority of this country Yeah, you know, what are the majority of this country? Yeah. You know, what are we doing for them? Politicians all talk about it, like. Well, there's also certain ideological aspects of shooters that they don't talk about. Like they didn't want to release that trans shooters manifesto because it's like this really crazy, anti-white, anti-like, it was a weird manifesto.
Starting point is 01:45:24 The same way just in Kansas City, they didn't want to say who the shooters were. Right. And what's her name was on Bill Maher the other night and Ann Coulter. She's like, I can guarantee it wasn't two white guys. Because you would have known. They would have had them all over the news. And unfortunately, that's fucking true. It's 100% true.
Starting point is 01:45:39 And anybody that denies it, it doesn't matter if you're right or left, you know that's a fact. This is not a... And it's fucked up. We need to catch these shooters. Yeah, we need to catch these bad actors. You need to give me the ultimate description of them Yeah, you know He had a head right, you know, oh, that's a 40s to 50s wearing a gray sweatshirt. Yeah, you know what I mean Looked like he was high. Yeah Yeah, you can't just say two men no yeah trying to keep a pc politically
Starting point is 01:46:06 show the fucking pictures how quickly did they have the pictures how quickly did they know probably within an hour yeah yeah it's a weird time man it's like people are scared of reporting the truth because they're gonna be called racist it's so strange and it's your transphobic if you're talking about the fact that these shooters are trans like how many of them in a row How many of them are oh, I'm checking all the boxes for the for the left here the extreme left wing right? It's nuts. I'm a racist fucking Nazi Just fucking laugh when you have this shit
Starting point is 01:46:39 I know it's nuts man anybody that opposes them in any way shape or form is far right But they think about it. it's actually, is Nazi shit. What is it, Gurbels or Goebbels, whatever, you know, tell a lie a thousand times, it becomes a truth. It's also, you should be vehemently opposed to this, no matter what your political ideology is. You should be vehemently opposed to gaslighting from anybody. Your side should win because they have the best argument.
Starting point is 01:47:04 They shouldn't win because they're full of shit. That's dangerous. It's dangerous to everybody. And the fact that we're all just trying to sort this out in real time as a country and so many people are skeptical of the news now so you don't know where the fuck to turn for the truth. Well, they're skeptical of the news. A lot of people are skeptical of the CIA and FBI, like institutions that have been there
Starting point is 01:47:23 to protect us and serve us for years and our judges and prosecutors, and we're like, everyone's being exposed. At least say what you are. You know, that's why, you know, I don't care, you know, that people know who I am and where I stand because I know where other people stand around me. And it's the oldest cliche. You know who your friends are Yeah, I know who my friends and my family are in the world that I have I'm so blessed to have and I don't need to try to play both sides of the fence to you know being Hollywood's good graces Yeah, this is David Spades. I was like dude. You're like Hollywood's fucking kryptonite
Starting point is 01:48:02 But good for you man good for you for being yourself the world needs more people just being themselves You're a good dude, man. I don't nail it every time. I've said things out of line that in a different day and age I would probably have apologized for but in this day and age no fucking way You're a good dude, man. You really are you really are you've always been a good dude You're always cool to be around and you're you been a good dude. You're always cool to be around and you're cool to everybody You're always friendly to everybody like when I went to your house. I brought some friends You're just cool to everybody man, and it's like that's what really matters in life It doesn't you know this idea that you're supposed to be hated because you have a different political opinion than someone else
Starting point is 01:48:41 It's so dumb. It's so dumb. Can we just look at who the people are? Can we look at who the people are and let's debate which is the right idea in terms of what to do with the economy or what to do with the environment or what to do with all these things. That should be what we're all concerned about. Everything be so fucking, these people are evil and these people are the future and this is the death of democracy. If you go that way and it's a shut the fuck up. You people are freaking everybody out. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:49:09 You people are freaking everybody out and I don't think you're right and you weren't right when he was in office. Where did it, what happened? Where was the end of the world? The guy was in office for four years. Where was the wars? Oh, we didn't start any new wars. You know, the whole thing is nuts, man.
Starting point is 01:49:24 And during the Biden administration the disastrous pullout of Afghanistan you realize that all the shit that he wouldn't have done he wouldn't have done it that way he would have done he would have asked those guys he would ask the generals like how to do this absolutely and do it the right way absolutely you should get out yeah they should get out of there but they're probably gonna have to maintain some force there otherwise the Taliban is gonna take over like they did like you're gonna take him a month fucking duh And then you left all the tanks because it's too expensive to get him out of there
Starting point is 01:49:53 He was so I saw Trump talking about that like how insane that was right that you left behind all the military equipment It's Billions of dollars and why are we sending money to countries that hate us? How could you ever imagine a scenario where it makes sense to leave a hostile military group like the Taliban tanks? What? Insanity. And it's also, it's almost like you know we're going to have to go back and you'd like them to be a little but war well armed this time
Starting point is 01:50:25 So then we could have a real war war like a bigger war war like a war war with two armies So then with the war if we lose some people then you can really justify Spending much more money Like better shit to fuck those people up with their old shit our old shit well unfortunately Some of that might come back to haunt us here and I hate to put that out in the universe but it's you know with this border being open we know there's bad actors here we know it's not if they would have and you would have to do that. If you could. If you I mean if ISIS is real we know it is. What if they're doing their job they would sneak in. They already have. Why
Starting point is 01:51:00 wouldn't you sneak in? They're already here. They're already here. Okay kid right. Let's put on the tinfoil hats. Why are they allowing the border to be open like this? It's insanity. I don't know. To get votes for the Democratic Party? I have no idea. I can't answer that question.
Starting point is 01:51:16 It seems insane to me. We want great migrants to come here. Yes, it's the foundation of our country. I know so many good ones that fucking work hard, that we're working on my house to build it, to do different things here and there, friends. You know what I mean? We need workers like this.
Starting point is 01:51:31 We just want them to come through legally. I know it's not like a broken record. It should be a better vetting process to allow us people to come in legally, but also you have to vet people. You can't just let terrorists through. If you really care about security. So this is my question.
Starting point is 01:51:44 And this is where I get, when I get get really conspiratorial when the weed kicks in when you get real conspiratorial I start thinking about all these things that are happening the decline of California the fucking tents in the street the fact that they know they can clean it up But they choose not to they cleaned it up when Gigi Payne came to San Francisco. You saw that right? So if it who would be... Why would anybody want it to continue in the same direction as continuing? Because it seems to be deteriorating. It doesn't seem to be improving. Who, other than someone who would want America to fail? Well, the other question is like, okay, Trump handled it to the best of his ability with
Starting point is 01:52:26 the tools he had in his toolbox. Biden now has that same toolbox and he keeps saying, well, Congress won't give me the money. They won't pass. And why the fuck is that going on too? And then they put three things in one bill. They put Ukraine, border wall, and Israel, aid to Israel. They put those three. Why the fuck are these not separate bills to vote on?
Starting point is 01:52:48 You know, because they're all trying to throw their fucking bullshit in there. That is, and that's both sides do that. Yeah, they both do. They both should cut that crap out. It's like, we're going to vote on the fucking border wall. Have it be the fucking border wall and that's it. Yeah. Don't fucking try to piggyback Ukraine and Israel into there. Those should be separate bills on their own. Well not only that, how much are they required to know about the bills they're signing?
Starting point is 01:53:11 Because some of those bills are enormous. Attorneys have fucked this country up beyond belief. Some of those bills, unless you spent a long time going through them and if you're even educated enough right to decipher the lingo the wording the definitions yeah you don't think a lawyer can spend something around 100% that's why I was saying like I was gonna say and consult with people that are experts and whatever the fuck they're talking about they should be written two page bills two to five to ten page bills and layman's terms that anybody with a high school degree can fucking decipher. Period. Why don't they make that a law so we
Starting point is 01:53:49 can all read them and understand them? The fact that they sandwich all kinds of shit inside bills is just nuts. That should be illegal. Completely. You're sneaking stuff in there that allows for mass surveillance. And Trump pulled their pants down on that. Trump did that. And make no mistake, there's plenty of fucking Republican establishment that hate him too. He's fighting them as well because he's like, you guys are full of shit over here too. He's telling so many people up there in DC, you're full of fucking shit. He goes, I'm going to run this like a fucking business and I'm going to win.
Starting point is 01:54:22 He likes to win. He loves to win so much that he fucking, that I want him fighting for this country because he wants to fucking win. I want him on my team, period. I like it. I like your passion for this, Ken Rock. This Mitch McConnell guy is the most amazing one. He won't step down.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Once again. He keeps freezing up. He froze up again This guy's locked up like three times. I don't get it Well, he just locks up like if he was doing any other job, they would stop they would stop them They say you're gonna have to retire You can't you just lock up if I lost my voice or some ability to do what you just locked up We couldn't talk to you right forget about your voice. What have you did? Would you still come on here? I'm Joe Rogan. I'm still trying to like no you'd be like you know what I had a good
Starting point is 01:55:13 run. Yeah you'd have to stop. Stop doing that. Whenever they get him in front of the podium the dude just locks up. I just feel like sometimes we're having like the dumbest conversation because it's like we're repeating a lot of things and it's all to Me boils down to common sense. You know what I wonder about Mitch McConnell too though. He's probably guilty of some serious shit I wonder if like he's doing the Vincent the chin gigante thing What's that Vincent the chin was this mob leader that pretend he was crazy So you walk around with like a bathrobe and slippers and he'd shuffle around the street like a crazy person and His dons would meet him or his-
Starting point is 01:55:47 The old rope and dope. Exactly. So all of his bosses would, you know, all the guys under him would meet him and they would go walking. And so what the FBI did was they put these recording devices and all the hubcaps of all the cars on the street, they parked their own cars there. And so they recorded them as he was walking and then they knew he wasn't actually crazy because he's really running the mob. But he did it by pretending. So like. Master of deceit. If they're coming after Vince or what's his name?
Starting point is 01:56:17 What the fuck's his name? McConnell. Yeah, McConnell. If he's pretending to be locking up, that'd be a good move. Like, if you think the shit's coming down, you think? You think he's that good of an actor? All he ever does is this. I could do that. I could fake lock up. You could do it straight face.
Starting point is 01:56:34 All good. In front of a bunch of cameras. I'd lock up. If I knew I was gonna go to jail, it was. If I locked up like that and sat there like that for a minute, I would make sure I had like a huge fart on deck. Right. Just to let it go.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Stand there like everyone's like, oh no, oh no, you're like. Bwaah. And then go, woo. You're never beating fart jokes. No. Imagine someone doing that as president. Hold up. Like Joey Diaz style, grabbing the mic, putting in the.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Joey Diaz has done that on stage. He grabs the mic and puts it in his ass and farts. I don't get it. Cramp. You cr't got to cramp. You cramped up? Oh no. Cramped up. On your leg?
Starting point is 01:57:09 Much water if I drag, yeah. Do you take electrolytes? I do. I drink the fucking hydrogen water. Really? Do you have any? I do all that shit. Somebody told me once.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Red lights, on his cold tubs, fucking intermittent fast, fucking cardio. Fucking Kaiser gym equipment, circuit train. Let's go Somebody tell me once that if you get a cramp in your leg You should actually pinch down on your tongue and then it's a pressure point. It comes back. Yeah, I've tried it I think it might work. I'm not sure though. It might just be in my head You know the worst is foot cramps When you're yeah, they say they're passing you eat it they say potas like grab a banana or something like that worst is foot cramps. When your foot blocks out. They say to eat potassium too. Eat it.
Starting point is 01:57:46 They say potas like grab a banana or something like that. I, I very rarely get cramps because I, I drink a lot of electrolytes. I do too. I'm out of drink four or five cups of water. I didn't used to do it at all. I never drank them for years and years. And I just worked out and drank water. And then when I started drinking electrolytes, I was like, Oh my God,
Starting point is 01:58:04 this is such a game changer. Let me see a health question. How do you get, I've been meeting with Dan on this, how do you get protein, the best protein without the calories? Why are you scared of calories? Just because I don't want to bulk up, I just want to stay thin and, you know, my core. Well, high protein diet is probably one of the best ways
Starting point is 01:58:23 to stay thin because protein is very sweet. I eat a lot of protein. I just don't eat it after I work out right away. I haven't been. Well, you don't have to. Because I don't eat to one, then I stop at six or seven o'clock. The idea that, I mean, you're not a fucking professional
Starting point is 01:58:36 athlete. You don't have to eat right after you work out. It's the best way to get optimal performance is to get some glucose into your muscles. Most people think carbohydrates after workouts are really good. The best way to get optimal performance is to, you know, get some glucose into your muscles. Most people think carbohydrates after workouts are really good. But if you're on a, like, a high protein diet, one of the things that happens, like, if you're on, like, a carnivore diet specifically, you don't crave as much food.
Starting point is 01:58:56 You don't eat as much. I don't eat as much just from doing the intermittent fasting. I kind of do it on one of the weekends or when I go out to dinner periodically. I do it so I can do that. You know, I eat a lot of raw vegetables, the right fruit, and then a lot of salmon chicken. Should be careful with some raw vegetables. Really? Because, yeah, you get oxalates.
Starting point is 01:59:13 I eat a ton of raw vegetables. You get oxalates. The thing about raw vegetables especially when you blend them up and like smoothies and shit. No, no, I eat them raw. Like a little tzatziki. Like a little tzatziki if it wants some flavor. I mean, you're probably not eating enough that it's gonna be a real problem,
Starting point is 01:59:29 but for people that get like blended smoothies of raw vegetables, especially like raw leafy greens, they say that like when you cook them, it actually is more bio available and it gets rid of the oxalates. You could get it out of the vegetable. But I know people that have drank a lot of smoothies, like green smoothies, and developed like kidney stones
Starting point is 01:59:49 and shit, it becomes a bit of an issue for some folks. I don't know why, it might be a genetic thing. I do smoothies, it's protein. Oh really? Yeah, amino acids protein. I'm addicted to jocos proteins. Jocos got this stuff called mulk. It's fucking delicious, it's so good. I'm addicted to it,os proteins. Jocos got this stuff called milk. It's fucking delicious.
Starting point is 02:00:05 It's so good. I'm addicted to it. I just keep drinking them. OK. Even though when I don't need it, I drink it. But you don't need to worry about what's high calories. Well, I like to. The real high calorie things are the things
Starting point is 02:00:20 you shouldn't be eating anyway if you're trying to lose weight like pizza. Well, you got a factor in that. I like to drink my beer. Oh that's a lot of calories. When that's usually only one or two nights a week, like depending if I'm working or not, but like weekends. And that's usually only one good night,
Starting point is 02:00:32 but I can drink some fucking beer. I bet you can drink some fucking beer. I can drink some beer. And I enjoy that and I'm not fucking stopping. Well then maintain. I do. I'm maintaining good. Yeah, but don't worry about calories for food.
Starting point is 02:00:44 The food calories you need. I was just talking about after working out at 30, you're supposed to have protein. You should. Protein pretty quick. You should have carbohydrates and protein after you work out. I like to eat some fruit after I work out. I like to eat fruit before I work out, too.
Starting point is 02:00:56 That's kind of the only time I ever eat fruit. I've been trying to eat the right fruit, blueberries, melons. Blueberries are great. Wash them, though. Yep. Wash the a ton of blueberries. Wash them though. Yep. Wash the shit out of them. That's the thing, you gotta worry about foods. Like what the fuck is being sprayed on your food?
Starting point is 02:01:11 How good of a job they do of cleaning it up before it got to the grocery store shelves? Well, yeah, I'm sure like you, we got two freezers full of fucking elk and venison. We got chickens for our fresh eggs. Yeah. We're pretty good about that stuff. And very fortunate to be able to afford it. Because we joke even if you shop at Whole Foods, we nickname it Whole Paycheck. Yeah, it's brutal. And it's also like, I've had people on like the guy from White Oaks Pastors
Starting point is 02:01:38 who explained that whole grass-fed thing and then also that it's a U.S. product, even if the cows are grown in another country Did you know that no they ship they can they can grow cattle in another country Kill it in another country ship it to America and then if they cut it up and put it on the shelf Then it's a product of the USA Makes no sense, but it's wild so they're labeling it like a product of the USA, when it's a USA, rather, when it's a cow from another country. That's a whole other conundrum of trying to just fucking see through the bullshit on food
Starting point is 02:02:16 labels. You know, how much research you have to do, and then you fucking start googling this shit. You don't know what the fuck to believe there. And the worst thing you do is like, you know, I have a headache. You start Googling like WebMD headache. And it's like, you're dying. You're fucked. You know, it freaks you all out.
Starting point is 02:02:31 Yeah. Fuck. Let me tell you about these fucking shows we're doing. Tell me about these shows, kid Rock. So fucking necks excited about this shit doing, oh. Doing a huge schedule this year, nine shows. It's kind of like my number, I like to do nine or 10. But this year, the big one is called Rock the Country. And it's a two day festival with me,
Starting point is 02:02:56 one night Jason Aldean one night, and cast of characters from Miranda Lambert to Hank Jr., Skinner, Bradley Gilbert, Travis Tritt, on down. So we're doing these very small towns like Ocala, Florida, and Mobile, Alabama, and Gonzales, Louisiana, just in these fucking fields. This is like, so I own part of this festival. It's this place for fucking people who love Love freedom and love fucking America, which I'm not sure that they have one of these anywhere
Starting point is 02:03:30 It's like a two-day festival for the people rock the country It's like everyone's welcome, but you're probably not gonna see a whole lot of blue hair and nose rings there, right? And so I'm super excited about that You're essentially doing like... Dude, Ocala, Florida, there's 26,000 tickets sold already. Ocala, fucking Florida. That's incredible. And we're going to these towns, you know, and there's...
Starting point is 02:03:55 We got RV stuff and you know, you can camp on your car and stuff like that and VIP experiences and all that shit, but it really, you know, when they approached me about this and, you know, having a piece of it and perpetuity, you know, it's made me do shit like this, go out and like it excites me to go out and do things now rather than just go tour and make money. Okay. I've been blessed to be able to do that. That doesn't excite me, you know, it always excites me to play, but to do something like this a little outside of the box and create this space because make no mistake, all the
Starting point is 02:04:23 shenanigans and experiences we're gonna have here, the people are gonna fucking make it. The people, because they're, you know, they're coming red, white, and blue. They're coming with their maggot shit. And this that and the other, like it's gonna be a fucking shit show. The greatest shit show on earth.
Starting point is 02:04:38 So I'm looking forward to that. And then we're doing, this is, we're doing Kid Rock's Rock and Rodeo at AT&T Stadium in Dallas Yeah The night before out of the PBR World Finals bull riding. I've really in the last several years gotten into Started with rodeos and bull riding We played a lot of those through the years Calgary stampede and Cheyenne frontier days and
Starting point is 02:05:00 You know, of course the Houston rodeo and I wanted to take rodeo to the next level. So we've created six teams So it's team competition rodeo So like you know the Ropers are gonna be going head-to-head rather than just timing them and Then I'm gonna open the show rather than have you know, usually it's the rodeo and then you play music right now The way I'm trying to format it is I open with a big number like kind of an award show type thing I'm really gonna put some fucking time and effort into it. And then, you know, we'll do the rodeo, some music for entertainment in between. I've been, I've been gunning for this one and I think we found it.
Starting point is 02:05:32 We want to do some entertainment between the, you know, trick riders and, you know, six shooters and stuff like that. But I think we found two midgets that are going to ride mini bowls. Fucking mic drop. You could still do that today. Fucking mic drop. And of course we're doing Kid Rock's comedy jam. I think it's third year, third or fourth year. Who's on that?
Starting point is 02:05:55 I don't know yet. Brian from Zanies. You know, you should hand us that. Like I put, I know Chris Porter will be there, my old friend. You know, if we, Gilles did friend, you know, if we've gillis did it, you know, the first year, Donald Rawlings, we've had some great people, Illinois care again. You know, I'm a fucking comedy groupie.
Starting point is 02:06:14 If I didn't have shit to do tomorrow, I'd be up at your show hanging out in the green room and giving comedians hand jobs. Like fucking, I pretty much live at Zaneys in Nashville. You know, that's awesome. So we do that for charity. Everything's 100% for charity. Is that where you met Theo? No, I met Theo a little bit before that, but he popped up the first year and he like, he came as the big star and did 15, 20 minutes.
Starting point is 02:06:36 Yeah, Theo, he enjoys Nashville. We have a little musical guest play I did it one year and, you know, other people and, it's something really fun just because I fucking love comedy. It's called the American Badass Comedy Jam. It's during Comedy Week in Nashville. How many of those have you done? I think this is the third or fourth. Nice. We've been able to raise some real money
Starting point is 02:06:53 for people. I got buddies of throwing 10 grand here just because they got it and shit like that. So we've raised, each and every average, just at the Rhyme of Theater, it's a few thousand people. So we've raised 80 to 100 grand every year. Nice.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Last year we donated the money to the victims of the Covenant School shooting in Nashville and then the guys that lost their lives on those choppers that went down outside of Fort Campbell. So we try to pick a couple specific things each year and help people out. That's awesome. It's fucking great.
Starting point is 02:07:19 That's beautiful, man. That's a really cool thing to do at your time. I'm glad that you like, you know, that excites you now. Yeah. Doing something interesting. Mm-hmm. Yeah'm glad that you like, you know, that excites you now. Yeah. Doing something interesting. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:28 Something where you got a stake in the game. Yeah. You know, where you really, you go out and you fucking work it. You promote it and you tell people what it's about and you're excited about it. You know, like these rock the countries. And it's a fucking gamble, man.
Starting point is 02:07:41 When you're fucking with Mother Nature, you're doing an outdoor fucking festival in Florida in the middle of fucking nowhere And you know we're trying to one of the smart things I've pat myself on the back one of the things she came up with was before we announced these and did them we got we invited everyone From these small towns or states whether it was their mayors Head of city council sheriffs state senators and we have with some of each show up from each state and had them all up to my house in Nashville. And we broke bread. And we just talked about how can we put our heads together and make this a great experience for fans.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Because that's the biggest thing when you're doing these festivals is you have to make sure of it. We have enough bathrooms, enough water, enough things for people to do, like create photo ops, to set and the other. The music's going to be what it is. We're going to give our all there like we always do. But to be involved in that level,
Starting point is 02:08:24 to be able to throw my creative ideas Music's gonna be what it is, you know, we're gonna give our all there like we always do, but you know, to be involved in that level, you know, to be able to throw my creative ideas in, and this, that, and the other. One year we tried to do the General Lee Hood slide. Worst fucking idea I've ever had. Fucking John, this is when we used to do this thing called the fish fry.
Starting point is 02:08:39 John Schneider got him to host it. I got a new, you know, I have a very nice General Lee with 440 in it. I got a new hood you know, I have a very nice General Evo 440 in it. I got a new hood for it, like an old hood that we painted because I know the hood's gonna get fucked up, right? So I've got this all planned out because I'm so fucking smart. Well, the first fucking lady goes to fucking,
Starting point is 02:08:57 it was like some money and, you know, judges. The first fucking lady, she's got a big old girl, she got a beer in her hands, she goes, she fucking trips, bam, head her right in the front quarter panel. Oh my God. They fucked that car up. I think I had four grand worth of damage to it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:09:12 How was that lady's show, okay? She fucking bounced off. She still had her beer in her hand. Oh my God. But that's fun, trying different shit like that. You know, great fun shit. Like, so I get to have my input on these festivals and really give my two cents and try to do cool shit and things, you know, just up and make it this fucking
Starting point is 02:09:30 patriotic fucking freedom, love and music festival, which I just saw a need for it. Well, there's a lot of people that didn't feel like anybody was talking to them. Half the country. Yeah. Why do you think Yellowstone's so big? Duck Dynasty? Exactly. All the country. Yeah. Why do you think Yellowstone's so big? Duck Dynasty. Exactly. All that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:48 There's a lot of people that just don't feel like they're being represented in the media because they're not. Or this deep, it's like fucking, the experience system, like I get into a fucking program, a series on something. And like I said, I don't give a fuck if you're gay. Speak gay. If you're Jewish, speak Jewish. Hey, everybody, speak fucking black.
Starting point is 02:10:03 We don't got to like clap louder for you, all right? Just fucking, but it's like become this fucking Hollywood bullshit where I'm into some fucking program. All right, second episode. Here comes two guys kissing or the trans person enters in just for no fucking reason, not for the narrative.
Starting point is 02:10:19 If it fits the story, I fucking get it. They just gotta factor it in. I'm like fuck go fuck off Fuck off like fucking it's just Do you notice this on Saturday night live? This is a perfect example, and I teave her every week and you know I just love Saturday night, but I'm like all right fuck now. It's become unfunny There's bands in there never fucking heard of it suck
Starting point is 02:10:42 And it's gotten it's has its moments where it's great and this, that, and the other, and you probably know the ones I'm talking about, but nonetheless, I watch it. And I've noticed this. It's like, so when they're doing the opening monologue, you know, one of the cast members will be in the crowd or whatever, never want to give them some applause. Watch this, every fucking time
Starting point is 02:11:00 when the Asian gay dude comes on, people are like, yeah! I'm like, what the fuck is that? Why? Like why? Why are we screaming louder? He's not the best person on the show. Clearly, you know, Mikey Day's fucking great.
Starting point is 02:11:16 You know, there's other people on there that are fucking equally great. I'm like, why? Why are people doing this? Like, you know, just clapping louder. That's like, we're all just fucking humans, man. Be who you want. They want to show they're inclusive.
Starting point is 02:11:29 The signal. That's what I mean. It just shows me this fucking millennial generation that like a good chunk of them are just complete fucking pussies. It's very performative. You know, virtue signaling is like something that everybody does now.
Starting point is 02:11:42 It's like something that you feel obliged to do.'s like you're so brave yeah it shouldn't be that big no one cares no we should clap on who's the funniest and the best one on the show. Yeah. Now what the, now you got me going on a rant so I haven't even had a drink. I like a good rant. You want a drink?
Starting point is 02:12:11 No. Okay. I'll take a beer. Let's get some beers in here. Get some Bud Light in here. You can have that Shane's hosting us now this weekend. Yeah. I know I had that confused.
Starting point is 02:12:21 I thought it was not the last week in the weekend before and I'm like nothing Tivo And I want to see Shane Are they showing him workshopping his it's a promo they put out for just a bit ago. Yeah, I don't know I'm gonna watch it, but I'd like to take a look at his wardrobe case, man Sweatpants lots of sweatpants. I fucking love Shane man. He's the best He's funny or shit people out there haven't watched his. This is on Netflix. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:46 It's beautiful dogs. Dude, your best joke. I meant to compliment you on it. Not only that, but all your success. I've known you. I don't think people know that we've been in the same circle for 20 years plus easy. Like when you were hosting the shows that I would perform at and shit like that. You know, we've always been friendly just to see you fucking work your ass off all those
Starting point is 02:13:04 years through all the TV stuff and have this going it make fucking hundreds of millions of dollars fucking God Thanks brother appreciate it man, but the best shows when your own shows when you're like can you imagine if all of our founding fathers came back To earth and like looked around in the present day. You're like and they're like Well, you guys have a written any new shit and you're like, and they're like, what, you guys haven't written any new shit? Ha ha ha ha. Fucking great.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Thank you. They've wrote some new shit, some bills. Right, it's gotta funny. Yeah. But the way that our government is structured, they were fucking genius, huh? To figure out that there's gotta be some checks and balances in place to keep tyranny at bay.
Starting point is 02:13:42 They just didn't know that it was gonna be subverted the way it's been. How could they possibly know that we were smarter back then Because they had to be it was forced to be they knew the nature of man, too The nature of man is almost always to here we go. Let's go. Are we really drinking blood like let's go much how much shit I get for this who cares Why do you get blood like here, by the way? Shane. Oh, Shane Gillis?
Starting point is 02:14:07 She's on the podcast all the time. Oh, did I tell you these fucking smartasses? You know, my buddy's now at Anheuser-Busch. Cheers, brother. For my birthday, they sent me a fucking hundred cases of Bud Light. That's beautiful. It's fucking hilarious. Truck rolled up to the fucking house.
Starting point is 02:14:21 I'm like, who the fuck's it? Because my friends have been bringing it over, shoving it in my golf bag. Since I did the machine gun fucking, what called machine gun gate, they've been fucking with me in everything I go to. Like someone's fucking bud like this, bud like that. And finally I came to a point where I'm like, you know where I did my research and like I told you,
Starting point is 02:14:39 like I don't give a fuck. Like a lot of people were, you know what the worst part about it was? Cause people were like people losing their jobs. And I was like, no, people's fucking livelihoods. I knew people who drove truck for, for, you know, big Bud Light trucks and sent any other, and their fucking livelihoods were crushed because now people are fucking with them. One of the heads of fucking A.B. said he went to my bar, Kid Rock's, you know, big ass honky-tonk in Nashville. He's like, dude, I walked through there with a Bud Light shirt. He's like, three people told me to go fuck myself.
Starting point is 02:15:07 I was like, yeah, I was reading about this one Bar owner who had to stop carrying Bud Light because when people would buy it other people would get aggressive with them Yeah, and that's dumb as fuck. It is. That's dumb as fuck. By the way, I'm not into fucking boycotts and cancel culture. Like sending someone a message, okay, or when they're targeting our children, shit like that. Like, you know, there's a fine line there, but ultimately I'm not fucking into cancel culture and fucking that shit.
Starting point is 02:15:39 I mean, I fucking railed against it since day fucking one. And I'm like, we sent them a message. We're gonna fucking cancel them, all right? If they go down this path again and they start this, I think they figured out who the, if you're in business and you have a clear market, you might wanna focus on that market. Yeah, and don't disparage them openly, publicly,
Starting point is 02:16:00 like they did. Yeah, I don't think if there's, you're like, what would be, what's a target audience for gay people a product? Lube. Lube. That's universal.
Starting point is 02:16:11 But you know something like that that's, you know, this is for gay people, you know, primarily. I don't think there's a thing. And you probably don't want to advertise on the outdoor channel. Right. To use the course. It's nothing to say it's bad or wrong or fucking right, right? It's just fucking common sense That's an actually good comparison. I feel like advertising musicals on the hey bud light send me a fucking check They they sent you how much beer
Starting point is 02:16:40 Two pallets hundred cases how much is that worth? Two pallets, 100 cases. How much is that worth? Probably a lot of money. Well, it depends. How much did they spend on that? On Broadway in Nashville, including our bar, we're guilty of it. Everyone does it. I'm not a fan of it.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Beers are fucking like $7 to $10. Wow. Nobody bats an eye. Wow. But I, when we went into the agreement with my partner with the bar, I was like, I don't want shit to do with operations at any level, with dealing with bands, booking. I'll throw in my two cents, I'll keep up on things, but I hang fucking pictures.
Starting point is 02:17:16 That's what I do. I come down and I'll get on stage drunk once in awhile, sing a number or two. But fuck a lot of money. It depends where you're selling them. So I've been giving them to my friends. But if they're even, you want to see fucking confused people? We get done playing pickleball or something. But we get them like, hey, you guys take couple cases of Bud Light if you want. And they're like, I have to take them in this room and
Starting point is 02:17:37 they're fucking stacked and they're like, what the fuck dude? And I'm like, it's a long fucking story, man. But if you got to think the retail on those Let's just say retail the retail on those 15 bucks. Okay, and how many grand how many cases was it? They spent a lot of money Fuck the send you bunch of beer funny, when I met with them and we were talking they were like, if you're messaging, we'd like to work out a deal.
Starting point is 02:18:09 And I'm like, I'm like, guys, I'm not here fucking to do a deal. I'm like, yeah. If you're messaging? It's kind of like, they were kind of about, I was telling them how I felt about everything. First it's telling me, hey, here's how you fucked up and here's how people like mine had like me, you know, and I kind of gave it
Starting point is 02:18:27 to them. I gave it to them at UFC that night and that was just speaking openly. I go, but now after I've done some research and especially after I talked to them, but not only them, you know, they're the heads of this company. They got vested interest talking to a lot of people, including Dana, including Trump, including people that own distributorships, people that drive for them, this, that and the other bars, whatnot. I was like, that's fucking enough. I'm like, I go, but I don't, I go out, I'm not here to do a fucking deal. I go, no one's gonna look fucking terrible.
Starting point is 02:18:57 If I come out and I'm like, oh, I got a bunch of money from Bud Light for cheating up cases, I don't feel right fucking doing that. No, you shouldn't. I'm glad you don't. I think, and like I said, there's no amount of money in the faceless fucking earth I threw out a couple ideas and they're fucking terrified Yeah, I can't wait to tell you one day. I don't want to let him out of the box. Okay fucking genius Tell me after I will take after and fucking uh and I was just like I'm not I
Starting point is 02:19:22 Got made my friends a bunch of money kill this Dana Peyton Yeah, that's true. I still haven't gotten thank you cards from those fuckers yet Well, we made Shane the Bud Light spokesman on protect our parks We just kept talking it up the entire time like dude you can bring him back you can bring him back Cuz he'll down 16 of them in a podcast like you'd never seen anything like it if I didn't have shit to do tomorrow getting after we'd be it We'd be around there now But chain like he doesn't even slur. It's weird. He just absorbs it me too. Yeah That's why that's why I try to stick the beer. I like a little whiskey, but
Starting point is 02:20:00 But I try not to drink it in public. Whiskey'll take you there quick Beer's like a nice little burn. I saw those fucked up videos of me on stage at fucking the hockey talk whiskey. Oh, yeah Blackout fucking drunk I think what happened was probably it sucks that they lost so much money It sucks that people lost their livelihoods What it did do that's positive though is it sent a message like, stay the fuck out of that shit. To every other company. There's still a lot of companies that sent them out. Stay the fuck out of that shit because most people don't agree with it.
Starting point is 02:20:31 And by the way, stay on fucking brand if you're a company. Yeah, exactly. For your employees, and I would go in that order, for your fucking employees first. Yeah. Your shareholders, and I know you guys at the top got stock options and shit, but for your fucking employees, you're in fucking business to sell a fucking product. Yeah, you know who your market is Fucking stick to them. You don't got to be fucking out here like fucking going after everybody I don't know who their board members are but these people have told me that looks like a few woke people out there But I'm like so fucking what I, you stick to your fucking market.
Starting point is 02:21:05 Yeah, stick to your market. Go where you're celebrated is the best thing I've ever heard in my life. Go where you're celebrated, not tolerated. Yeah, that's good advice. I think it's just one of these things where these people get out of universities and they're indoctrinated into this way of thinking
Starting point is 02:21:19 and they start working for a corporation and they want to change it. I told that to Brendan, the CEO. I said, what did you think was going to happen when you move half the corporate offices from St. Louis, Missouri to New York City? And then you start hiring these Ivy League liberals to do your marketing. What do you think is going to happen? That's like lining up a powder keg, enlighten a wick, and being like, I wonder if it explodes.
Starting point is 02:21:41 Exactly. Yeah. I still think they should go back to fucking St. Louis too. They probably should. They probably should, well they're probably reevaluating everything. Obviously they are reevaluating everything after that. How do you not?
Starting point is 02:21:55 It's like they lost $27 billion. They are and that was one of my things too. I'm like, you know what, it appears to people like me because although we're friends and I love you guys and we'll see what the future holds. I have no fucking idea, but I'm not looking for a corporate deal on any fucking level because that's how you set yourself up to get canceled and nobody can fucking cancel
Starting point is 02:22:14 me at any level. I'm fucking, I like that very much, but I was like, you need to fucking go back to fucking, you look like you're just, it's like this, you cheat on your girl or vice versa or something like that. By throwing money at it and buying her some shit and this and that doesn't sweep her under the rug, don't fucking go away until you go, yeah, I fucked up. And they just refused to go like, and I said, you don't have to go out and say, I'm fucking sorry, we fucked up.
Starting point is 02:22:43 I go, I'll say it, here's some fucking ideas for that. I go, there's one idea, I was like, it's the commercial cuts, and it's like me, out fucking working my ass off. I'm just sweating, fucking no shirt on. That's that and the other one. And someone's like, hey man, cool off, and they hand me a Bud Light.
Starting point is 02:23:00 And people are like, what the fuck? And I drink the Bud Light, and then they pan out, and I'm shoveling fucking piles of money into the back of my truck. Like, ah, Ken Rock's sold out. He's doing some shit. That's funny. But at least with poke fun of themselves,
Starting point is 02:23:15 you would kind of get it and people would go like, all right. That's the way they should go. They should go with a poke fun of themselves. I had some ideas too, I'll tell you later. I had one that I pitched to Shane. I think there's a way to do it. But it's also, you know, for other companies, just realize, like, a lot of people think all this stuff is nonsense, and a lot of people think that a lot of these influencers that you're latching yourself to because you think they're popular.
Starting point is 02:23:39 They're popular because a lot of people are, they think that their attention whores and they're mentally ill, and so they pay attention to them. Doesn't mean they respect them as human beings and you want to have them as your spokespeople and you want to disparage all the other people that have been your loyal supporters forever. You're making a decision. It's a bad tactical decision. It doesn't make any sense logically. You're not speaking to your giant portion of your market. You're actually in opposition to them. It's fucking dumb
Starting point is 02:24:08 Yes, but I want them to give me a reason to drink it again I want to double down on stupid humor so funny I want to I wanted just like like a specialized can you know what I mean like fucking They made these kick-ass Budweiser cans back at all red white and fucking blue Shit like that. Just do something in front of them. That would work. You know what they should. Imagine if they turned Budweiser into a red,
Starting point is 02:24:30 white and blue can. God, I wanna tell you this one idea is so fucking. Tell me later, tell me later. This is so fucking funny. Hang on. They shit themselves when I told them. They literally cracked up laughing. They were on the floor laughing.
Starting point is 02:24:41 And then they were like, we didn't sleep for two fucking weeks. Cause wondering whether they should go for it. Oh, there's no way they're going for it. No. Fuck no. That's hilarious. It's not my favorite things.
Starting point is 02:24:53 I've had a lot of great fucking corporate deals. Like fucking, it's incredible with Chevy and Harley Davidson and Jim Beam, so many other ones. And they've all been pretty good for the most part, but you know, like dealing with Chevy, like the people I dealt with were great, but trying to get stuff done in those situations, like even when I was talking to them at the design center
Starting point is 02:25:15 about the shape of the suburban in the back, I'm like, you get fucking groceries, like they slide out, it's just a bad design. Or a lot of people use these cars as chauffeur cars. They're an escalade. Why can't the seats move back? So if you don't have any luggage, you get more leg room for those being transported around.
Starting point is 02:25:32 When we're in the design center and they're like, to change the mirrors on that car will take three years, which is why I fucking love Elon Musk. I'm fucking not only for everything he stands for and the shit he says, and I know he's probably not a Trump fan and I'm fucking love Trump. In case we're not clear here today Joe, I fucking love Trump. I already got that part. Elon's fucking awesome man. I wonder who Elon is supporting.
Starting point is 02:25:56 What did he fucking tweet last week? It was something so... Oh he tweeted, do you see the Disney tweet? No. Pull that up. Elon Musk, oh this is fucking great. He took the Disney logo, flipped Mickey Mouse upside down, so it looks like two balls and a dick,
Starting point is 02:26:11 and he wrote D's nuts in the Disney lettering. No. Fucking winner. Really? That's wild. What do you think of Cybertruck? I love it. See, I kind of like it too, and I'm not an electric dude.
Starting point is 02:26:25 I was gonna tweet this out to Elon, like, I don't know, we have mutual friends, but I was gonna say, like, hey, I'll make you a deal. Send me a fucking Cybertruck. I'll fucking drive it for a few weeks, and I'll give my honest fucking opinion on it. Like, no fucking money, no nothing. If I like it, you just let me buy it.
Starting point is 02:26:41 I don't even want it for fucking free. I go, but, you're gonna take the chance. It's a 50-50, you're that let me buy it. I don't even want it for fucking free. I go, but you're gonna take the chance. It's a 55, you're that fucking confident in it. Like people know me that I don't fucking bullshit. And I don't need a free fucking truck. It's probably give it to me if I do that, but I don't fucking need it. So I'm happy to be like, you send me a fucking truck.
Starting point is 02:26:57 So I basically jumped the line. You know, that's gonna be. And I drive the fucking truck. A kid rock review. Fuck yeah. I like it. You love it. Have you driven a lecture car before? I guess we're calling them out now, right? Yeah, you'll do a review. I drive the fucking rock review fuck. Yeah, I like it. You love it I guess we're calling them out now right? Yeah, we are. Yeah. Have you driven? Dude, that is hilarious. I mean right there when I hang out with that dude. He's right there. He's a fucking maniac
Starting point is 02:27:17 great Hmm have you driven electric car before I drove a Rivian for the first time Oh, those are drove it like down the street Have you driven an electric car before? I drove a Rivian for the first time. Oh, those are great. I only drove it like down the street. Buddymind showed up with one and a friend of a friend, drove it down the street. It was the SUV. And then like drove it on my drive and said, it was fucking wild.
Starting point is 02:27:34 Yeah. And I've been interested in those two because those are, that's a Detroit company. Yeah. The Rivians are supposed to be great. The Plaid, I have the Plaidid, the s plaid. What's that? It's the four-door car that goes zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds. Do they make it in men's color?
Starting point is 02:27:52 Yes, white. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But the fucking things, it's something from the future. You can't imagine a car that's that fast and completely silent. That blew my mind too. But you're like me, you're not driving up to fucking Alabama in your car. If you have to drive long distances and those things, it's paying the dick. Because you gotta pull over and stop and wait for 20 minutes
Starting point is 02:28:20 and charge it up. And it might take longer. The only place I drive myself these days is to the airport or to the dentist. That's it. Well, if you just want to drive around town, electric cars are the shit. And that thing, I think it does zero to 60 under three seconds and it's 7,000 pounds in bulletproof.
Starting point is 02:28:38 And it's stainless steel. I'm like stainless steel. I could wrap that motherfucker in gold. Wrap that motherfucker in gold. Or camo. It looks like something from the future. It looks like some Blade Runner shit I'm not into I'm not into modern design in front of it. No in real life. Oh, it's so sick It's all those things about it getting fucked up in snow and shit if you see that you have tires That's all that is you ever driven an AMG G wagon in snow. They're fucking terrible because they have street tires
Starting point is 02:29:03 They have wide street tires out the one hand one foreign car What do you got? Rolls Royce well we both had only because lots of Raptors right that's right Got but that's my daily driver still yeah, I drive his TRX I know I've been back and forth and it sees the man I want preface because some people think I'm a fucking, like, like a really new Rolls Royce. I bought this car because I've had this Waffle House license plate,
Starting point is 02:29:31 like, you know, holder forever. And I got this car guy, he's like, I got a hundredth anniversary Rolls with Gold Flag. And I'm like, we're going to get that fucker and put that Waffle House plate on it. And then I got, let's go Go Brandon badges on the side of it. Oh, that's hilarious. And we have more fun in that fucking thing going to Waffle House or like whatever shit we're doing.
Starting point is 02:29:52 That's hilarious. That's the only Rolls Royce in the country with a Waffle House license plate on it. Let's go Brandon. There it is. How'd you find that? Fuck. Is all this shit on the internet? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:03 You didn't know it was on the internet? That was on the internet? Yeah. You didn't know it was on the internet? That was on the news? I'm sure it was. Of course it's on the news. Fuck. I can't stop nerding out. I'm glad you don't pay attention to all the shit that people write about you.
Starting point is 02:30:14 You'd go crazy, right? Oh yeah. Do you know at all the time I read comments? That's when it's like a news article and I'll go, I'll see like some fucked up article and I'll think like family feud. I'll think like this is what everyone's saying down below. And I'll scroll through them and I'm usually pretty fucking close.
Starting point is 02:30:35 Like I could read something up there and probably start scrolling. I can tell you what they're saying, some fucked up article. Like the majority. Like I fucking pat myself on the back and being pretty in tune with common folk, even though I couldn't tell you what a gallon of milk costs.
Starting point is 02:30:48 But just my friends, places I have houses where I spend my time, what I do, I'm kind of, people think I have some fucking nutball right wing fucking weird on them, pretty fucking level headed overall. And I know you know this more than most people, but, you know. When people get real suspicious, when things get real weird,
Starting point is 02:31:06 is when you got people that put up things and you can't comment. That's weird. Well, I did one. Like Bill Gates puts up a lot of stuff on Instagram and you can't comment. Well, my father passed away last week, I bless him. And so I put up a nice post
Starting point is 02:31:22 and then Trump actually posted about him, which was fucking mind blowing it unbelievable. What a great friend right there. If I could speak to him about a human being and I could tell you what a great father grandfather is all day long. But it was actually my fiance suggestion. I see fiance to we've been together 17 years.
Starting point is 02:31:39 So I was there suggesting like, if you're going to do this nice post for your dad, turn off the comments, make it about him, not about you and everyone saying, I feel bad for you and this, that and the other. And I thought that was the right thing to do. That's the only time I've turned the comments off. Yeah, that's not a bad thing to do. I thought that made sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:57 I thought she was hit that one. Yeah, that's not a bad piece of advice, especially in that particular post. Right. That makes a lot of sense. But that's one of the things that people are having to navigate through now. Someone posts something, people get to comment on it. Everybody gets to comment on it. It's interesting.
Starting point is 02:32:17 See, I get all that from my fiance, Audrey. My life's turned into a fucking meme. Is yours? Like, me and my friends, we don't fucking talk. They just send me fucked up memes and I send them back like fucked up shit on the internet. Yeah. And it's half the time it's some comment that some Weisenheimer made that's fucking hysterical. It just fucking makes your day.
Starting point is 02:32:36 But I'm not going to spend my time sifting through them, no. Well there's so many out there and so many people find them. So many people aggregate them. There's like thousands of meme pages. I follow a shit ton of them. I find they say funny shit, I follow them. It is. One of the things that's really interesting politically today is that the left are terrible at memeing. They're fucking terrible at it. Who would have ever thought that the funniest shit would be essentially right wing? like the the
Starting point is 02:33:08 It's not really right. We're have changed immensely Now when I was right, I'm the fucking rebel. Yeah, everybody fucking how I with my business is fucking, you know They're the conformists right one like fuck that. Yeah, that's the punk rockers and the rebels are Republican now. You know who said that Johnny rotten Johnny rotten. Yes fucking sex pistol set a very famous quote about that. Well, he's fucking see if you find his right wing He's a Trump dude wild Well, it's like Even Mike Tyson said this he goes when I was younger was very very liberal But as I get older I just have more common sense.
Starting point is 02:33:47 And I see how my kids are going into this world. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, he goes, I become more conservative. That seems to be pretty common. The oldest expression ever. But show me a young man who's not liberal. I'll show you a man with no heart. Show me an old man who's not conservative.
Starting point is 02:34:01 I'll show you an old man with no brain. Very true. And it used to be more so back in the day, like, big conservatives, you're fucking dork when you're a kid. That's changed. I mean, you got fuckers like me on here, fuck this, fuck that, you know, blah, blah, blah. We also realize like there's a certain aspects that being conservative promotes that are very beneficial, one of them accountability and discipline.
Starting point is 02:34:24 Those things alone. those things alone. Like you're thought of as a conservative and I'm not conservative, but you're thought of as a conservative you exercise, which is just hilarious. If you're telling me that you're not on my side because I'm fit and because I work out all the time, then good, I want to know that. I want to know that you don't like strong people. I want to know that you don't like people with willpower. I want to know that you don't like people who have discipline, who get things done. Because you're not on my side then, because I know the way to navigate this life in a positive, happy way, and it's not by being lazy, and it's not by not promoting beneficial
Starting point is 02:35:02 things to your health that are difficult to do, like getting in shape. If you're not, you've not actively, if you're not saying that it's good to be fit and strong and be able to protect yourself, if you're not saying that. I would like to double down on that for people who like what I do, and there's plenty of them. You know, that they know I love them and they love me, Like, you know, I've done it the last several years, really got my shit together. I'd say since I'm 40, I'm in the best shape and feel the best that I've ever felt since then. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:35:33 It's pretty wild since then, but I would like to put it out. I've always wanted to figure out a way and this might be the right platform because I know you're into that lifestyle is to employ them like, hey man, listen to fucking what Dana White says. Listen to what Joe Rogan says. You know, listen, if you want advice from me,
Starting point is 02:35:48 I'll give it to you. There's ways to do this now, and the information is all there at the fingertips to start taking small steps, whether it's the intermittent fasting or whether it's cutting out processed foods, whether it's just everything in moderation, including moderation.
Starting point is 02:36:03 There's so many little things of getting in the gym self-discipline like that. It's it's you know A lot of my fans are in and around my age. It's fucking time. It's time to start doing that It is it's never too late and you will improve just do it carefully and slowly in the beginning That's the most important thing don't don't become become a hero first day in the gym and hurt yourself Cuz most of the time I'm doing this I come off like all I do is fucking drink and smoke and say, oh, fuck that. That's not how you get to where I'm at.
Starting point is 02:36:29 No. There's a whole lot more discipline involved, work wise, health wise, family wise, friends, fan wise, everything. 100%. I'm glad you said that. People need to hear it. Some of the most positive shit I've said in fucking 20 years.
Starting point is 02:36:41 I'm bringing it out of you, kid Rock, let's go. It's important to talk about, because it's important for people to hear that you know It doesn't mean you're not a good person doesn't mean not a kind person She's like I like being strong and if you want to tell me there's something wrong with being strong then you're weak There's no there's no way no way you're making any sense It's not important to be fit and healthy shut the fuck up. It's not important to be fit and healthy. Shut the fuck up. It's not important not to protect yourself. That's so dumb. It doesn't mean that you hurt people. It doesn't mean you want to hurt people. I don't want to hurt anybody. But if I'm in a situation, I would
Starting point is 02:37:14 rather be the person who gets to decide who goes to the hospital. I don't want to be at the mercy of some crazy person. It's peace of mind too. It's much more calm. I have way over done electronic locks here on my bedroom and this, you know, gun here, safe room, all this shit. And it's not like I necessarily need it because you've been to my place.
Starting point is 02:37:33 I get to my place. If you come up there, you're fucking already in strike two. Right. It's sleep easier. Sleep easier. Also, you gotta know what's real in the world. The idea that there's no threats out there is so stupid.
Starting point is 02:37:48 No, it doesn't mean you're looking for one all day long and seeing ones that aren't there. But recognize the reality of the world that we live in, that threats are real. That's fucked up. We went to the movies probably five years ago, me and Audrey. We're just afternoon, like four o'clock. Let's go see some movie we wanted to see. Sitting there, fucking one time, I don't bring my gun, right?
Starting point is 02:38:08 Just grab a seat, just 10 people in there. You know, theater's empty. This fucking kid walks in, some fucking white kid. He's fucking backpacking, he's fucking hoodie up. He goes and sits all the way in the back and I'm sitting there with her and I'm like, I don't have my gun. We both agreed, let's go.
Starting point is 02:38:25 We fucking left. It's fucked up to have to even think that way. But that's where my mind was, and I dare say- There's no metal detectors at the fucking movie theater. All right, this fucking $20 we spent on moving popcorn. I'm like, I just, for peace of mind, I'm like, let's leave. Probably was a nice kid, I don't know. And if you don't think people judge you
Starting point is 02:38:45 on your fucking appearance, you're fucking crazy. Yeah, especially if you have a hood over your head and a backpack. Well, anything, I would look like a fucking nut when I was young. I had fucking flat top up to here, and pants sagging, and smoking doobies. Fuck, I mean, I got judged by it rightfully fucking so.
Starting point is 02:39:01 Until you get to know somebody, what else do you have? And to judge them on? How they appear but also that's a new factor in the world the mass shooter It's a new factor and here's the thing that Black people kill each other and white people like fucking shoot up fucking schools and fucking bullshit in this any other Yeah, it most is why stereotypes are fucking crazy. It is mostly white people. And lately, mostly LBGT people. It's not even gay people, it's the fucking weirdos they're like.
Starting point is 02:39:34 And how many people do you think are doing that? Like, I wanted to rebel against my dad, got arrested, so when I was fucking young, you know what I mean? Even though I was totally like into hip hop and everything, I still knew that he got his fucking goat You know and we had our fucking differences and I was young very understandable now that I'm a grandfather myself But how many of these kids like you know got that dad
Starting point is 02:39:56 They think he's a racist the sat any other maybe is on some level at certain things because he tells inappropriate jokes or whatever this that Any other you know people are from different times, blah, blah, blah. That, I know I'm gonna piss my dad off that motherfucker. I'm gonna wear a dress. Oh, yeah. Remember guys when we were young, they'd get earrings? Shit. Tell us straight dudes, you know, they're scaring.
Starting point is 02:40:17 I remember dudes getting pissed their dads off. My brother got on my dad ripped it out of his fucking ear. Ha, ha, ha, ha. That's no shit. Woke him up out of bed fucking. That's hilarious. Yeah, for sure. There's definitely people that rebel against their parents.
Starting point is 02:40:31 There's also people that always look at the people that are older and look at how fucked up the world is and think they've got better ideas. That's how communism starts. It starts from the universities. That's where it comes from. Unbelievable what's going on in those universities. Did you go to college? Oh, it's from. Unbelievable it's going on those universities. Did you go to college?
Starting point is 02:40:45 Oh, it's wild. I went to UMass Boston, but it, I really only went just so people didn't think I was a loser. Where's your fucking accent? I got rid of it. As soon as I started hearing my voice, I was like, ooh, that's a terrible Boston accent. That's one of the reasons I love Bill Burr.
Starting point is 02:40:59 He's funny as shit, but I love that fucking, hey, fucking god, fuck this guy, I'm gonna buy. He's the most Boston Boston guy. I was actually born in New Jersey, and then I lived in San Francisco until I was 11, and I lived in Florida from when I was 11 to 13, then Boston from 13 to like 20. Oh, no wonder you fucked up.
Starting point is 02:41:18 San Francisco, Florida, and Boston. Yeah. Yeah, I lived all over the place. You don't know if you're a gay redneck or just a fucking Irish fight inside of a bitch. Yeah, I lived all over you know if you're a gay redneck or just a fucking Irish fight inside the bitch Yeah, I lived everywhere then I lived in New York till I was like 27 and lived in LA Yeah, so I was all over the place. So I never really I did have a Boston accent though. I did for a while I definitely blend it in I love that fucking accent. It's great accent for dudes rough on the ladies Rough to here like a hardcore Boston.
Starting point is 02:41:49 Are you gonna fuck me or what? I'd take it over to New York accent. All those summer buddies from New York who got the hardcore Long Island shit, they're funny too. I guess who's saying it, you know? A friend of mine, we're kids, hooked up with this girl. Did we finish all that beer now? We can get more
Starting point is 02:42:10 So a friend what you hooked up maybe I call my boys have them drop you off We've got some beers. Yeah drop off a pallet, but anyway he He said that she said like when they started making out she's like you're gonna tell your friends So that became a thing that we always repeated you're gonna tell your friends Who made that neon I collect a lot of old roadside relics a company here in Austin, Texas Relics from them so what they did right there because you can't get porcelain anymore, it's very tough to give, but what they did right there. You can't get porcelain anymore?
Starting point is 02:42:48 It's very tough. So what they did right there, because I'm a collector of these, is they painted behind the neon. See how it makes that Joe Rogan pop? A lot of people can't see the top thing either, that's cool, but what I'm saying is they did a fucking great job on that.
Starting point is 02:43:02 Well, they do all their stuff like like it's old But that's that's half the thing of old is painting behind the neon a lot of these new ones don't do that Lot of the honky-tonks you see on that in Nashville down there. They don't have that This is a gift from my friend Brigham. And so when he gave it to me when I when I got I was like, oh, that should be like right behind me That's great. That's perfect. I trust me. I could that shit. You have no idea what that shit is worth Go online started looking up fucking real fucking porcelain old school neons and go to auction houses I go to all these auction houses to buy them a shit. Oh, yeah Unfucking real well, this is you know, this guy does a while he does a bunch of wild shit online
Starting point is 02:43:42 He does amazing stuff. I know their stuff. Cool artist. I know their stuff. It's an interesting art form, right? Like old neon signs. There's a soul to those. They're exciting. It's a great place in Nashville.
Starting point is 02:43:55 I get sometimes I'll find old ones and they're so ridiculously priced. I have one in my house. It was Redneck Paradise. It was a thing up in the, I can't remember what upstate New York, some vacation spot. And I wanted to buy it, it was fucking ridiculous. It must have been like fucking $35,000, $40,000 or something around that size, different dimensions.
Starting point is 02:44:16 Wow. So I go to Bobby Jocelyn, Jocelyn SignCup, and I'm like, hey, can you replicate this with what I wanted to say? Yep, six grand. Oh, you saved yourself some money. There's a thing about having the old ones though, right? Yeah, I got some cool ones.
Starting point is 02:44:31 If you have something that's really old. I have Willie Nelson's Nashville Nightlife. It was on his thing. It's probably 26 feet long and probably five to six feet high. What does it mean out of? Steel, because it was outdoors. Oh. six feet high. What does it mean out of? Steel. Cause it was outdoors. But painted on the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:44:49 Fucking. Wow. I got some cool ones. The old Dixie gas ones that you know, you're not supposed to have cause I have a confederate flag on them, you know, from the old gas company back in the day. Oh wow. There's some eerie,
Starting point is 02:45:05 racist shit out there. Yeah. I antique and flea market a lot, especially if I rarely stay the night in a city unless I get to the West Coast. Racist ones? No, racist. Oh, racist. Like, not neons, but just shit out there. Like, I'll collect some of this stuff just because they're never making it again, whether
Starting point is 02:45:20 it's Native American, Black shit, like I have these fucking signs that I found in Reno, Nevada at some antique shop. And they are solid steel, the real deal. It's like, it's like, they'll say like swimming, whites only. And these were actual signs that were up somewhere. And I don't know what to do with them because I want to put them up somewhere.
Starting point is 02:45:43 And I asked my black friends, they're like, dude, don't put that up. Don't put that up put don't put that but it's a reminder of how fucked up shit was yeah People don't want that reminder you should put it in a drawer somewhere yeah there you show people like look I'm gonna show you something this is how fucked up things used to be and then you like preface it every time you introduce it to It so you don't think has like a little bit of a reminder of how things it does if you have it in a drawer So if you have it in a drawer so if you have it in a drawer so I should say you want to see how fucked up things used to be you you know they used to have those signs don't think I should put it right next to my swimming pool up there I would advise no but I think having it is not a bad
Starting point is 02:46:16 thing you should have it in a drawer so you have it in a drawer every time you show someone you get to represent what it is instead of it just being assigned like kid rock is assigned So my black friends are all fucking cool. I'm sure they are fuck with each other on that level all the time I'm sure they are. It's not them that I would ever worry about. I'm not putting it up for other people put People already have family my friend you're fucking your fucking Rolls Royce. They're the I'm putting on my Rolls Royce But they have it great idea photos. Where'd you get that idea? Joe Rogan? My god But it's but having it as a relic of you know the Jim Crow days is
Starting point is 02:46:59 You know, I want to show my son. I want to show my granddaughter show anybody. You know, it's historic You know, I want to show my son or show my granddaughter show anybody, you know, it's historic There's something I mean it's creepy, but it's like at the old studio. We used to have where is that fucking helmet the Nazi helmet? We had a Nazi helmet that uh had a uh a sword like a bayonet You don't use you only use it on halloween. It's no it had a um a light It was a light it was made by by this same guy Shane against the machine This guy who made this chimpanzee skull he made this Like a lamp that was a Nazi helmet with a bayonet through it. Where the fuck is that Jamie?
Starting point is 02:47:38 We got to find it It needs to be brought back. That's our that's our thing. How dope is that? I Love it. That's dope, right? Just cuz it's it's a real bayonet. So no, it's artwork. It's provocative Yes fucked up. It looks cool shit. It's a lamp and the one I have as a bunch of holes in it like that one It's pretty dope Oh, he may ramped it up let's get a new one from him Oh, he may ramped it up. Let's get a new one from him We'll reach out yeah, I'm into that shit dude. I love it, but it's like that is because it's obvious You know you get it obviously I get it But I mean there's apparently there's an area in Europe where so many people died I
Starting point is 02:48:20 Not exactly sure what countries I know France has this enormous area That's a normity Paris But France has enormous area the size of Paris that no one can go into do you know that mm-hmm They have so many unexploded ordean ordinance and so much Chemical bombs and all the shit that they were working on them. Yeah, find that one spot. What is it called? There's an area that's literally the size of Paris that you can't go into. And it's all from the war. So apparently they found so many helmets that you could go there and like find them in the ground in certain these places during World War II. So they're not uncommon. So they take them and they can turn them into artwork.
Starting point is 02:49:05 I wonder why they haven't like, de-bombed it, de-mind it, like all that stuff. I know, right? Like, go in there and gather up all the, all the swords and shit. Like, how many people died there? They just left them there. I would like to do that trip to Normandy.
Starting point is 02:49:21 Like, I got some friends in Paris like, I'm not, like, it's getting bad like you know Here's a go. I was like I never wanted to be one of those people big around the world It's not that I don't appreciate the fans. It's like I don't give a fuck about Being big in Croatia or fucking wherever, you know, right? You want to be able to go hang out played Europe And I was raising a kid too as a single father, so I Split my time, you know, I mean? It was always home. Like, you know, Thursday, maybe to Sunday, it was always home.
Starting point is 02:49:47 But it's getting so bad. It was like years ago. It was like, I fucking love Canada. Love the fucking people. But I'm like, eh, I'm not gonna go. I'm like, I'm not going to Europe. I said that years ago. I'm like, I'm fucking done.
Starting point is 02:49:59 We have talked about doing a festival in Budapest. Like for all the European fans, some shit gets kicked around, but I'm like, no, really, I love the fans. And I don't fuck, I don't care. I'm like, I'm not going to fucking Canada. Love fucking Canada, but I'm not going. And now I'm to the point, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:50:17 is there really a reason to go west of the Mississippi? Like, fucking huge in Kentucky, man. Like, big. But you don't have to. You do whatever the fuck you want. You kid rock. You can make those people come to you. I try not to let that get to my head, actually.
Starting point is 02:50:37 You don't have to. But you just decide, I don't like going there. Like I don't hate anybody in Canada. I just don't go there anymore. Dude, I went there with Wayne Gretzky and got detained. I believe you. Why'd you get detained? Just for, it's like, you know, you had to do that rehabilitation thing because you got
Starting point is 02:50:54 caught with weed when you were like 18 or whatever. Everyone in my band did. This is one of the reasons we stopped going there. They kept fucking me every time I'd go and fly in private with fucking the king of Canada. Fucking detained me for 45 fucking minutes. I'm like, fuck this place, man. And I know it's not the people's fault. I like a true dough.
Starting point is 02:51:10 He's a fucking classic piece of shit. He's based shit. When did this happen? How long ago? This was with cellulose's Hall of Fame induction. So whatever year that was. How many years ago? Seven, eight, I'm terrible with the year game.
Starting point is 02:51:24 Yeah, they're rough on letting people in. So listen to this. Maybe we ought to take a nod from them. Yeah, they've got, well, they're not, they don't want people integrating into their culture though. They're happy for people to be able to- Their whole culture's integrated. Yeah, but-
Starting point is 02:51:41 They're Vancouver. It is. It is. But what I'm saying is like, they're having a problem with like, Muslim people wanting to impart Sharia law in certain schools and certain places. Don't tell me about it.
Starting point is 02:51:53 I was born in Dearborn, Michigan. Which is crazy, right? Fuck. One of the things that was hilarious was they elected this woman to be a Muslim who's a mayor of the city in Michigan and everyone's like yay So inclusive first thing she does ban the pride flag Exactly they're throwing mother they're throwing gay people off buildings people are like free gay people are like free Palestine
Starting point is 02:52:17 Have you ever seen that meme like? Gays for Palestine and then Palestine for gay. Yes. Yeah throw buildings. Jamie, can you pull that up so I can read it? Yeah. Yeah. It's about the size of Paris. So in the years following the Great War, today around 100 kilometers square. 460 square miles. Yeah, roughly the size of Paris is still strictly prohibited by law from public entry and agriculture use because of an impossible
Starting point is 02:52:45 amount of human remains and unexploded chemical munitions yet to be recovered from the battlefields of both wars. So there's an impossible amount of human remains out there, dude. I'm looking at the top and the website says messynessychick.com. It's a solid website. top and the website says messinessichick.com. It's a solid website. It's totally trustworthy and reliable. Messinessichick.com says.
Starting point is 02:53:12 Well, this is a lady that just, whatever, maybe it's a dude, I don't know who wrote it, but whoever this person, they're just reporting on something that is true. That this is, they pulled so much shit out of that area. I couldn't want to go there You look like a metal detector. I bet you'd find some shit 100% we do some metal detecting But just imagine that expression an impossible amount of human remains 460 square miles. Yeah Paris that fucking that's you know
Starting point is 02:53:41 What is the total amount of square miles? Hey, Jimmy Originally covered that much space and then it now was down to the size of Paris So they slowly encroached in on the toxic area 1200 square kilometers 460 square miles now down to the size of Paris Wow Originally 460 square fucking miles is that's a lot fucking huge that's a giant piece of land a state Yeah bigger than some states, so there's a state you can't go into I want to go It's probably super scary
Starting point is 02:54:19 I mean this place is in Vietnam where people would walk through the jungle and then boom no leg Because you just stepped on a landmine that had been left there for 50 years Not good Not good. That's one of the sketchiest wars. You want to be a conspiracy theorist look into Vietnam The Vietnam War is one of the most perplexing of all wars because today is one of the most perplexing of all wars. Because today, no one thinks we should have gone. And yet, they do the exact same thing today that they did back then.
Starting point is 02:54:52 The way they just decide that people from this country need to be flying overseas to go shoot at people they don't know. And it's all based on a lie, and no one ever goes to jail for that lie. That's insane. And everything everything evolves man. Everything evolves, you know like computers back then were terrible now They're really good, you know if they were really terrible at the way They were corruptly running the world back then and made it real obvious. They're better at it now
Starting point is 02:55:20 Yeah, you just what's the end game? I Don't know man. I'm fine. I could ride it out. Right. Last I'm like, I'm about my grand I got children like fuck I know I go back and forth from being optimistic to really pessimistic I Go back and forth like I'll start thinking you know what I'm pretty sure we're gonna pull ahead and figure this out And then I go, yeah stupid That's because you live in Texas and you don't live in Gaza if you lived in Gaza, you would be convinced that it's the end of the world Right because it is the end of the world in one place in that spot. It's the end of the world But where you are it's not and you got to look at it that way and when I look at it that way
Starting point is 02:55:58 I'm like, oh wars we won fucking ones. We were the most brutal motherfuckers on the planet Which I don't disagree with what Israel's doing. It's like, they should just go in there and be like, you know what, we want our hostages back. If we don't have them back, clock starts now in fucking 24 hours, we're gonna start bombing motherfuckers and killing fucking civilians, 30, 40,000 a fucking time. So you civilians better fucking pack up
Starting point is 02:56:23 and fucking get these fucking motherfuckers and you go against them, you fucking go against them. We're not playing fucking games with you. That's the only thing people understand. This is what happened in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Boom. Swiped out. They're like, oh, yes, we don't have Supreme Leader anymore. We did not know you had such big bombs. Yeah, but everybody has big bombs now the problem is you use a big bomb You said a precedent that they can use a big bomb. They don't have one well They don't but they're allies too. Then we that's the real problem out of them. Someone's gonna learn. Yeah
Starting point is 02:56:57 Speed hard enough. You can't just nuclear bomb people. I didn't say nuclear bomb you back No, I didn't say here she went a socket. I thought you meant it like no no I was saying just the brute force of strength used in those. Yeah, but even even a conventional bombing campaign if you want to do that somewhere they can do that to your place and this is what we have to fuck around and find out yeah until someone launches nukes and then we have a and We our civilization is over The world as you know it ceases to exist. There is no more electricity Whatever tools you have or things you find and a small percentage of us are gonna make it to breed and then
Starting point is 02:57:42 Make new kids like how you said God into the world I like he's very few people that are gonna make it to breed and then make new kids and then go out into the world. There's very few people that are gonna live, man. Yeah, it's like me and you could probably figure it out. Yeah, yeah. I have chickens too. I have elk and the freezer too. But that freezer's not gonna stay on.
Starting point is 02:57:57 You can gut an elk. I've gut an elk. But that freezer's not gonna stay on, so I'm gonna lose most of my meat. Unless I turn it jerky you're gonna have to do something to figure out how to fucking get by because the world is gonna be different. You know you're not gonna have any electricity forever. For the rest of your life there'll be no electricity. Just throwing paint at the
Starting point is 02:58:16 wall but what if we empower the people of Palestine who are could be good people. I don't know. Just what I'm having. Last I checked most these motherfuckers hate us but I'm not saying all the people do. There's probably a. I don't know. Just one last I checked most of these motherfuckers hate us But I'm not saying all the people do there's probably A lot that don't just like and I ran the population is you know Because of the Iraq war there there's so many under 50 there. That's like the majority The thing is these guys don't have access to other information outside of where they live and then on top of that They're being run. Send the starlink. We'll send them some fucking guns Fuck let's go. The problem is most of them would be so opposed to Israel
Starting point is 02:58:49 That they would want to use those guns to go attack Israel Well, then we especially now we have now we have due reason to fuck them all up Yeah, but if you think about you're a kid and you don't know why there's a conflict between Palestine and Israel and you're living in Palestine and then they start bombing And then they kill your mom. Yeah, but you didn't do but right, but you didn't do anything It sounds like Bud Light and then you get guns You're gonna go want to attack people you're gonna want to avenge them You're gonna want to join whatever group whatever so I don't world war two end
Starting point is 02:59:23 Well, why did World War two start checkmate you got a dude who's fucking methed up You got a Adolf Hitler Methed up charismatic dude that wants to take over the world. That's how it started, you know How did it end nuclear bombs? But it also ended through attrition, you know at the end of it like the devastation on both sides was so horrible terrible, but where was the end? Here's human Nakazaki. No, but what was the alternative? Well, that's that case You know the thing about whenever you're bombing cities like you know, that was your house
Starting point is 02:59:59 What if that was your house? Let's call your house Israel and your neighbors are Palestine. Okay. Those motherfuckers are, she got a family of four. They come over and fucking take out two of them in the fucking worst way. Are you really going to like worry about like what type of force you're using at your neighbors? No, you definitely. Well, the wife didn't have anything to do with it. We got to make sure she's okay and get some aid. This and there's like, no, I'm sorry, man. This is fucking war. It's terrible.
Starting point is 03:00:25 It's the worst thing on earth. I'm a peaceful man. Right. But you're not supposed to pick civilian targets. That's actually a war crime. You can't fight war like that. But you're not supposed to pick civilian targets. They're hiding in civilian targets.
Starting point is 03:00:36 They are. So that's where like the massage has been able to get into the hospital. They're in hospitals. They got trenches fucking underneath. They got operation centers. They killed those dudes the other day. And all we can do is go by the reporting like you know, I get it But at some point you got to believe something right, you know, I definitely do they definitely seem to be doing that
Starting point is 03:00:52 But also if you're a person who's born in Palestine, you're fucked. You're under their control. It's not your fault my birth Fuck yeah, but that those are our enemy and the the thing is like what you were saying, get them cell phones, get them the internet, get them armed. If you get them armed, they're not going to really know how to use it. They're going to also join those military groups and then they're also going to be indoctrinated at a young age by those groups, I would imagine, especially now with all the bombing that's been happening in Gaza. You just came full circle to my point.
Starting point is 03:01:25 I'm not opposed to what you're saying. There's no alternative. I'm not saying that I'm opposed to what you're saying. What I'm saying is that, you know, what you're saying is like could be taken as like a callous thing to like that it's just going to have to be how it is that we have to kill women and children. I wish there was an alternative. And I don't know everything on this by the way. I don't know everything on this either. But I doubt they're sitting up in
Starting point is 03:01:49 you know Congress going like, hey, we better listen real close to Kid Rock. He's got this figured out. We're just not willing to accept that the only way human beings can resolve things in 2024 is to bomb each other out of existence. Oh, I wish, I, fuck, believe me. It's just the whole thing is so fucked. The whole, the whole- But reality sets it. Israel thing is so fucked. If everybody in the world was willing to give up their fucking guns and weapons. Okay.
Starting point is 03:02:17 Never gonna fucking happen. Well, no one- This is fucking, why we don't even bring it up. No one would agree to that just because you're always gonna need You're gonna assume you're gonna need to hunt things. There's you're saying that like you're gonna let the animals just go wild Bears and in dear overpopulate everywhere. You're never gonna kill any of them anymore Dude Yeah, if you live near moose, you better have a gun.
Starting point is 03:02:46 Oh my god, they're fucking mean. They will stomp you to death. Wow. Yeah, we got one of my hot Montana comes right up to the lodge. Pretty cool. But you don't want to go outside where they're outside. They'll stomp you to death. Yeah, I've seen the videos.
Starting point is 03:02:58 Oh my god, I watch this. Don't throw snowballs at the Moose. I watched this snowboarder the other day just get stomp. It broke his leg. Did you see the one where they're chasing him down the hill? Is that the one? Um, no. The guy was like, he just walked up to it and it just starts stomping him.
Starting point is 03:03:15 It stomped him down and he couldn't get back up. He's just getting rocked and no one wanted to jump in and help him. They were afraid. You know, he's getting stomped to death by his fucking moose. They're the most aggressive of all the deer species. They'll actually go after you. If they think you're threatening, they don't want to, but if they think you're encroaching it on the territory, they're like, I'm gonna stomp this dude out.
Starting point is 03:03:38 They know how to fight. I'm gonna suck this dick. All right. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Bud Light. These are the special Texas cans, son. Look at that. We got long horns. We got the star. We got both. Alright, Shane Gels is getting you free Bud Light. I don't think we, I think we bought them. We bought them we bought them right yeah I could have taken them from my club free shit kind of sucks free shit's not as fun when you have money there's nothing free about the thing is it comes with yeah you become friends with that person or influence yeah there's nothing free
Starting point is 03:04:19 about it yeah it could get weasley. I mean unless you like talking like free Tesla cyber truck Well, you're not even you're you're just subjecting him to a review Right, I mean it's not just free you're gonna just thinking maybe make a bully him into a free one. I Don't think so especially now that you said it The things amazing though I haven't driven, but I have a friend who has one. He said he bought it just because he had like one of the earlier, you know, like number out of the lot, like number nine or something. The only thing I could see bad about driving around a cyber truck. Telling your parents you're gay. I knew something like that was coming.
Starting point is 03:05:06 I was just hoping it was going to be. Nah, I fucking, I hate modern shit and I fucking something about that truck. I like it. It's a great truck. Have you driven one? Yeah. No, I haven't driven the Cybertruck, but I've driven electric cars. I've driven the ass.
Starting point is 03:05:19 I've seen the Cybertruck in real life. He brought it here and I've seen a bunch of them on the road. I think they look dope. He brought it here real life, he brought it here, and I've seen a bunch of them on the road. I think they look dope. He brought it here? Yeah, he brought it here. He parked it right back there. It's cool, I shot an arrow at it. You asked me to shoot.
Starting point is 03:05:34 Why'd you shoot a gun at it? Cause I didn't want to have a ricochet in a fucking garage. Cause it will bounce off. It's worth it. Who'd have to have a way to the fucking... If I had ear plugs, you know, if I had the... my ear gear, my eye gear, maybe I would have shot it. But the point is, it can survive a 45 slug.
Starting point is 03:05:57 It's legit. It's like folded steel. It's thick as shit. I like it. It's pretty dope. I like the idea of it. Like I said, I'm not... And it's thick as shit. I like it. It's pretty dope. I like the idea of it like I said I'm not it's an American car I like a little American. That's me shoot. No, that's you yeah, I Shot out it and it didn't even scratch a shirt. It's a meme there was a dude There was a dude who went to a game who looked exactly like me
Starting point is 03:06:23 I mean he looked exactly like me and the meme was like Joe Rogan ain't being slick I saw that and I saw that I was like oh my god that guy looks exactly like me So I was him for Halloween so me and Elon did a podcast together. Come on, bro. That looks exactly like me How much does that guy look like me? Come on, bro. That looks exactly like me. How much does that guy look like me? Does it look like me if I've been eating spaghetti? Tell me that's his real fucking hair. I don't know if that's his real hair, but that's me.
Starting point is 03:06:50 Tell me that's... that can't... look at his eyebrows. That can't be... No, they were all wearing blonde wigs for a reason. I looked it up at one point. Oh, okay. It has to be a wig. Yeah. So I got a similar wig.
Starting point is 03:07:02 And this kid's is why you just say no to weed. Well, you know, it's a fun thing to do. But the point is, I didn't go through the, I mean, I have an 80 pound bow. You draw 80? Yeah. What the fuck? I have a 92. I have a 90 as well.
Starting point is 03:07:22 You don't need to draw more than fucking 30. That's not true. Who told you that? Yeah, Ted has a very bow hunter Look girl is Ted is a legend and I agree with him on almost everything except How far you shooting a fucking white tail fucking a hundred fucking white tails when I'm shooting elk and Also, I am of the opinion that goes 80 pounds to me is not the same as 80 pounds to someone who's not strong True, I can't it's a big day. I can't pull fucking so when people say like oh you pull 80 pounds That's stupid. I do 80 pounds hundreds of times a day. I do it all the time
Starting point is 03:07:59 It's not hard for me to pull 80 pounds So when someone says you pull 80 pounds like yeah, yeah, I shot 200 arrows. Like, what's your point? Like, if you have a hard time pulling 80 pounds, why are we pretending that we have the same body? Why are we pretending we have the same physical strength? This is dumb. So like, if someone's saying like 70 pounds is all you need for, okay, but why, why not go to 50? Why not go to 30? Why not go to 20? That's dumb. Because at a certain point in time, you're going to go to 50? Why not go to 30? Why not go to 20? That's dumb because at a certain point in time You're gonna lose speed and you're not gonna be able to penetrate correctly You're gonna have less kinetic force on your arrow
Starting point is 03:08:32 Kind of goes with golf like you know hardy swing the farther the ball goes But you don't have to swing hard you need to hit it straight make good contact, right? But there's also a lot of people that believe that holding weight makes you more accurate and a heavier, holdy weight when you're really locked in. You're more accurate. I know guys who feel more accurate with an 80 pound bow than they do with a 50 pound bow or a 40 pound bow, but it's all subjective, right? That's all dependent upon your technique and how much you train in archery, but I just I train when I get annoyed.
Starting point is 03:09:03 I feel annoyed. I get annoyed. I hang. Yeah, look, Yeah look okay good example you don't shoot a 22. You shoot a 300 win mag. Why? Because you can. I'm not doing headshots. That's true. 17 cal headshots.
Starting point is 03:09:17 You're not doing headshots with a bow and arrow either. When you're shooting something with a you should have it as lethal as possible. And so for me, I like a heavy arrow moving fast and really accurate. And the best way to do that is to have heavier draw weight. I'm not, I'm not, I like shoot my bow at targets and drink beer. Yeah. That just pisses me off when I'm out there and fucking something's out of range and I see it and I've been sitting out there and I'm like, fuck that shit. What about the adrenaline rush? I'm like, get fucking something's out of range and I see it and I've been sitting out there and I'm like, fuck that shit. What about the adrenaline rush?
Starting point is 03:09:46 I'm like, get that every night on stage. I'm like, I don't fucking kill some shit and eat it. Well, then you can just get it, sit over a feeder. There's a lot of people that hunt in Texas like that. They just put a stand over a feeder. Yeah. I don't like the whitetail hunt anymore. No?
Starting point is 03:10:01 Nah, I don't need to be alone in the woods with my fucking thoughts for that fucking long and fucking bored. I try to take your snacks take a fucking nap I want to run the mountains to chase elk or birds action buddies there I don't like to be alone yeah that's a definitely I've done it before I did it my friend John Dudley I did some tree stand white tail hunting it's it's a different mental game like it's very hard to do. And I think people don't understand how hard it is to do. What's the game, fucking sit here and wait?
Starting point is 03:10:29 Yeah. Sit there and keep your shit together while you don't move, because maybe if you do, at one point in time, a giant buck's gonna stroll through the trail. I hate that. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 03:10:41 You're rather a horseback, get off, or someone puts some birds out, we got some pointers, I got a beer in my fucking case. I want to work, chase elk, you know that's a lot of fucking work. Yeah, that's a lot of work. Get into the elk, once you spot them,
Starting point is 03:10:56 and there's a lot of them, and you're picking out the big daddies, and then you gotta fucking figure out how to get to them. That could take fucking a couple days and fucking a lot of miles and fucking hiking. It's difficult. Everywhere you go to hunt, it's difficult if you're hunting elk.
Starting point is 03:11:09 Like if they're wild free ranging elk, it's really hard. But the thing about that's hard about white tail hunting though is the mental game. Just keeping your shit together and stand all day. I'm like, girl, sit out there for seven hours. She'll take a couple of snacks in a tree stand with her fucking bow. I'm like, girl, sit out there for seven hours. She'll take a couple of snacks in a tree stand with her fucking bow. I'm like, you're fucking nuts.
Starting point is 03:11:28 People are dedicated to it. They're dedicated to it, like, because they're also like learning from each other and how to set up trail cameras and how to set up sprays. Right. Putting scent on trees and shit. I'm fascinated, but I don't do it. Because it's just, yeah, they make the grunt noises, they rattle. I hunted some white tails down in South Texas last year, but we did
Starting point is 03:11:50 it. Well, say I crazy. You rattle, you clack some antlers together, and within 15 seconds bucks were running straight towards you. South Texas is unbelievable. It's crazy down there. Yeah. Crazy down there. You could have anything. You could have zebras and fucking. It's the only steak, because I looked into it, because I was like, I should high fence our place in Nashville like Even just get some cool shit to look at whether some stags or zebras are fucking you know, whatever water buffalo You can't do it. Oh you cramping again, bro
Starting point is 03:12:37 Did it work didn't work. I think it's a sit in Chair lip not his tongue. Oh you live if it your right leg, pinch the inside of your left lip or something like that. I was reading it. It says it's a thing. I don't know. Yeah, I had heard it was grab your tongue. I went to it, said the inside of your lip.
Starting point is 03:12:55 I went to pinch my leg down here and, son. Almost grabbed my cock. Whoa. Easy. What were we talking about? So you couldn't high-fence your spot? Well, no, you can't. In Texas, you can have any animal you want and like Tennessee and I think Alabama too
Starting point is 03:13:09 It can only be native To that to that state that you can have in there You know what's hilarious about Texas, but that's not true because Luke Brandon some red stag on a property It's only certain things you can have but you't, the more exotic's like they're like no. Oh, like zebras and shit. I like you gotta fucking be honest here cause fucking homeboys over here like tick, tick, tick, tick, fucking fact.
Starting point is 03:13:32 He'll one-handed Google you. It's not like fucking fact checking after the fact, it's fact checking in real time. But wasn't Tiger King in Oklahoma? Wasn't that where that was? Dude, speaking of Oklahoma, shout out to Jesse Jane, who passed away recently. The porn star. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:48 I dated her for a while, way back in the day. She passed away. She did. Drug overdose. Sadly, but she was a beautiful girl, nice girl. And I feel like people in my position wouldn't say that. You know what I mean? She had a lot of friends.
Starting point is 03:13:59 She was awesome. I spent Christmas out there with her family and her mother actually took care of baby tigers. She worked at this tiger zoo. Back, this was years ago. Her family couldn't have been cooler. Her mom, her dad, her brother, her grandparents, her son was young at the time. Like she was a really nice girl. I just wanted to say condolences to her family. But she was involved with, they had a baby tiger during Christmas at the house that she was taken care of. It was a coolest thing You know one of the crazy ones. Do you know Melanie Griffith when she grew up? It was Melanie Griffith, right? She grew up with lions
Starting point is 03:14:36 Right this is some crazy movie where they use real lions and these people getting cut up by lions like everybody on the set got hurt But I think Melanie Griffin grew up in a house with like large cats. She's in the movie, I think. Like lions? Yeah, like lions. And it was like their house, like there's photos of them with these lions in their house.
Starting point is 03:14:59 I can't say I don't want a pet lion. Yeah, but dude. A monkey? When are you a ghost? Parrots. She got attacked by a lion to turn the movie. She eventually recovered without being disfigured Although she did require some facial reconstructive Facial reconstruction 50 sutures 50 sutures after being attacked by a lioness sutures. It was fear that she would lose an eye But she eventually recovered without being disfigured, although
Starting point is 03:15:25 she did require some facial reconstruction. Stiches, stitches of sutures. Sutures. A lion jumped on John Marshall and bit the back of his head, inflicting a wound that required 56 sutures. Why don't people start calling them sutures? Why don't they say stitches? They're just being technical?
Starting point is 03:15:51 She see if you can get photos of Melanie Griffin with the lion the photos because there's a Website that like documented it. It's it's really weird. Yeah, like that's her house I see it up here like that. How weird is that man? That's her as a kid That's so insane. They have lions like you have a dog. That's so insane. These things are so big. They were playing with them in the house and hoping that these things didn't fuck them up. Look at this. This is so crazy dude. Oh this is the dumb movie. What are the things attacking people? Look at slow being playful and they're trying to pretend that they're being attacked. It's so dumb.
Starting point is 03:16:31 If that thing attacked you, it'd be so quick and violent if it wanted to. Looks like a great movie if like you still did hallucinogenics. No, it'd probably freak you out. It's supposed to be a terrible movie. But it's just, Imagine growing up like that Yeah, that's fucking insane
Starting point is 03:16:48 Talk about frosted flakes growing up with lions. Oh They're saying we're listening to it in this she is being attacked. Oh, she really was she I guess She's saying the safe word and the director kept filming. Oh my god, so they're trying to promote the movie So they didn't pull the line off is that they were supposed to do oh? Jesus Christ, where's your smoke suckers in here? They'll suck it out. No, we're going up. It's all through up behind there Yeah slick. Yeah, bro like that This is what happens when you get a ton of fucking money for talking to people Smoke suckers if you want to do it this way
Starting point is 03:17:25 Some people do it this way. Some people do it differently. could afford the good ones. Well, it's also there's like a lot of space above the room. So you could set up your equipment outside, so it doesn't make so much noise. Starlight ceiling, look at you. Yeah, bro. It's you.
Starting point is 03:17:59 Got to find stars, too, shooting stars. What does kid rock think about aliens? Do you ever wonder about what the fuck's going on? Nah. Not at all? No. No. You see all the talk in the news
Starting point is 03:18:15 and all the disclosure hearings. No, I mean I don't never click on the articles and like, ah, you fuck. That's good. There's, until you have to know, until someone's like, good fuck That's good. There's Until you have to know until someone's like dude. He's with me. We're coming over right like yeah That's a good way to yeah, because you know how many people waste their time Wanting it to be real hoping it's real
Starting point is 03:18:39 I don't know waste of time. I don't even know to think about it. I Don't know if I want it to be real. Well, you've got to imagine as big as the universe is that there's something out there. And you've got to imagine, what if there's something out there that's just 1,000 years more advanced than us? Just 1,000. A little blip, a little tiny amount of time.
Starting point is 03:18:59 Not that much time at all, really. You think about it often now. There's something here like that. He's called Elon Musk. Yeah. at all really there's something here like that he's called Elon Musk yeah imagine a whole planet filled with the successor to Elon you can you could easily imagine something would want to visit here and you could easily imagine no could you imagine if they didn't yeah that's crazy like they're like fucked
Starting point is 03:19:20 Disney World yeah like I don't go that fucking stupid place look what we got here that'd be like us going to Canada or Europe It would be a lot crazier than that if they're like yeah, I don't want to go to fucking that planet I think it'd be like us going to like Some country and studying animals. I don't think it would be I'd be like studying Literally like going and finding cave people That are stone age still now that would be studying them I'd rather go back in time and talk to those fuckers than talk to the people in front of us The people in front of us are probably not gonna be people in your questions
Starting point is 03:20:00 The people in front of us are probably going to be integrated with technology, like permanently integrated. That new guy that Elon Musk put the Neuralink in his head, he apparently can use his cursor. He can actually search the internet and do a bunch of things just using his brain now. So it's working. I just want to see if like me and George Washington be boys They'd be like golfing like me and Trump like hanging out like I have a lot questions If you go to one place, where would you go if you had one shot?
Starting point is 03:20:38 You can go back in time once and survive and come back to the future. Where would you go? Jesus Jesus What if there was nobody there? Even better I get one myself just mean Jesus. No, I mean what if there was nobody there? Even better. I get it all myself. Just me and Jesus? No. I mean, what if Jesus wasn't there?
Starting point is 03:20:50 What if you go back and you're like, I just want to go see Jesus? You're like, okay. Fuck, he'd be there. What time? He'd be there. He'd probably like a DJ back then, fucking cutting his shit up. He's there. You think there's a real Jesus?
Starting point is 03:21:02 Mm-hmm. Definitely. Absolutely. 1000%. What makes you convinced? He's there. You think there's a real Jesus. Mm-hmm. Definitely absolutely thousand percent What makes you convinced? My faith I mean that's a good answer I Always wonder when people are telling stories though Like how long did that story take before people wrote it down?
Starting point is 03:21:26 How many times did people alter it? Just like they do with everything today. I gotta imagine that at a certain point in time in history they probably didn't tell the truth about a lot of things. And we take those things, tell them through oral traditions, having written down. There's a difference between lies and between the truth getting, you know,
Starting point is 03:21:44 manipulated and twisted a little bit. The underlying usually is still there. So you think the real truth was that he actually was the Son of God? Yes. It would be amazing if it was true. It is amazing. I believe you. I believe that you believe that.
Starting point is 03:22:00 Would you like to be introduced to Jesus? Listen, I think the concept of Jesus is absolutely amazing. And if Jesus came here and wanted to visit me, I would be psyched. Would you like to know Jesus? In what way? I can put my pastor on your show. I'm good. She's great.
Starting point is 03:22:17 Pastor Paul White. Very... Trump's spiritual advisor too. Oh, that's hilarious. You should have her on the show. Talk about Jesus. I'm very interested in the idea of Jesus being a real person, but I look at it the same way I look at everything else, whereas like what the words are.
Starting point is 03:22:32 Let's circle back. You told me that you believed in Bigfoot for a while. No, I was joking around. But I wanted Bigfoot to be real for sure, just like I want Jesus to be real. Well the thing Bigfoot used to be real, the thing that I found out when I really got fascinated by Bigfoot. You know how Jesus is real right in this moment? How?
Starting point is 03:22:52 Because the forgiveness that I am exercising by drinking this Bud Light right now. Oh, that's Jesus? That's Jesus. Jesus is everywhere. He's in this room. He's in the world. He's in the universe. By the aliens that you want so desperately to be real or have the concept of them being
Starting point is 03:23:09 real, that's Jesus. That is Jesus. As a Christian, I have to believe in forgiveness. Beautiful. Cheers. What's that? I never thought I'd have to explain Jesus to drinking a fucking Bud Light, but you don't explain it You just you're you're saying how you feel Jesus everywhere
Starting point is 03:23:35 Everywhere every time you look at a flower that blooms or you look at what are your children? You're like that's Jesus That is Jesus That is God. Yeah, I want to be real clear. I'm not like, I just saw a shooting star. Yeah. How fucking cool is that? That's God going, bang, nailed it. Sort of. That's every 30 seconds. I haven't seen one all fucking interview. I just happened to be speaking passionately. Jesus and God, that motherfucker went, who whip. But that's how confirmation bias happens people That's what makes people believe certain things like the Jesus sent that suit that fucking stars on a maybe you timed it, right? That's Jesus could be coincidental. That's Jesus
Starting point is 03:24:17 Um, I think he's probably super busy and I would I would guide him if he can do miracles This is not this is not the spot. Sam Kinnison, the greatest ever. Yeah, he was the greatest ever. One of them for sure. When he went off on the Jesus shed. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:24:34 Oh, not my left hand. Oh wow. What's that? You've been gone with your 12 fuckhead friends and won't get a job. This is day three of this shit. 12 losers. Every one of them is using you.
Starting point is 03:24:46 You don't have sense enough to know it. Where have you been? Well, first of all, I was dead. He comes back after three days, misses Jesus' snare, and he's like, I've had enough of this shit. Comes back looking all party now, man. That's Sam Kinsman.
Starting point is 03:25:02 He's my favorite fucking comedian. You gotta remember Sam Kinsison was doing that in 86. Oh, he was doing everything. Age jokes on gay people. Like it's the funniest shit on earth. Oh, he was an animal. If you kids out there fucking listen, have not watched that Sam Kinnison from Hollywood.
Starting point is 03:25:20 That's special. Yeah. His first one. I think it's called breaking the rules. Yeah, is that what it's called? Breaking the rules? I I think so see the breaking the rules or have you seen me lately? Have you seen lately? It's not even see me lately. It's got to be breaking the rules I think have you seen me lately is an album is the greatest comedy and that's going to get some strong shit and louder than hell His his cassette like no doubt like if Sam Kinson wouldn't tragically passed away like we'd be rolling around together. Yeah
Starting point is 03:25:48 Hey, I saw him live a couple of times when I was a kid jealous Yeah, I got to see him two different places live Rodney put him on. Mm-hmm. Yeah What are our favorites to Rodney's one of the greatest in our green room at the club We have handwritten notes from Rodney's last Tonight Show special. So it's all his bits laid out and his topics. I'm gonna start making trips down here. Like we always look for fun trips, grab friends, like come in, have dinner, see comedy. Come on down, man.
Starting point is 03:26:15 Come on down. I'll tell you a night when Shane's gonna be up and Brian Simpson's here and we've got a great crew of people. Ron White's here. He's here all the time. We've got a great group of people. Ron likes to always golf with him. He's here, he's here all the time. We got a great crew of people. Ron likes to have his golf with him,
Starting point is 03:26:26 he's like, I quit drinking, man. I'm like, oh, you know, Bob will meet him in daily out, fucking golf, and he's like, but I'm hiring fucking mushrooms. Ha ha ha ha. It was a lot of fun talking to you. You're always been cool. Thank you for having me. Thank you as well.
Starting point is 03:26:48 I always enjoy your company and you're just a fun guy to be around man. Good oh man. Glad we got a chance to do this. Congrats again on your success. Thank you brother. And same to you, same to you. I love the fact that you're so completely independent. You know you got your fans, you do your shows, you don't need nobody.
Starting point is 03:27:02 You don't need nobody's approval. I live in this little world right here. But you got it nailed. You're the king of that world. Thank you. Thank you don't need nobody. You don't need nobody that's available. I live in this little world right here. Yep, but you got it nailed. You're the king of that world. Thank you. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. God bless you.
Starting point is 03:27:10 All right. Bye, everybody. Later.

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