The Joe Rogan Experience - #2118 - The Black Keys

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. There was a cop guarding our car behind the theater yesterday, and he asked him if it was okay if I smoked one, and he said, you should probably wait. He should probably wait. It's a funny thing for a cop to say So stupid The dumbest of laws yeah without a doubt the number one dumbest of laws
Starting point is 00:00:39 There's nothing nothing. It's even close to that one. That one's so stupid while all the shit that is legal Just a matter of time I think We can only hope it's legal in like 20 states or something now was it like 19 or something Jamie? 23 23 states ridiculous But there's a lot of shit you can do here that you can't do anywhere else you can have a zebra You can have you can have a call You can have a call You can have a zebra you can concealed carry with no license
Starting point is 00:01:16 You don't have to have a concealed carry license here. It's constitutional carry. Yeah, so leave them a little how many states have that How many states have quite a many states have quite a few now Quite a few Florida has it. There's a I want to say there's 19 states that have that now Ohio just passed it Damn, well, you know, it's a lot of fucking crime going on out there And there's some places where it's difficult to get a license to carry Surprise in Ohio they allow that What I yeah, I'm not familiar with any gun law ever at all
Starting point is 00:01:49 I just I just don't have a gun I have a pellet gun well Have you ever shot a gun? Yeah, I did um scared the shit out of me So I was a boy scout stuff, but my friend bought a like a Mauser Is that what it's called a world of German rifle? I Mean this guy's kind of told a character. He was he got into like World War two reenacting. Oh, no Was a Nazi. Oh, no. Oh, no We're at least try to lose
Starting point is 00:02:21 I don't I don't know man. It was a whole different thing he would do that we never really discussed with us We bought this Mauser and We took it to the range indoor range and like it had it the pin. I guess was replaced to fire only blanks So we're trying to shoot it and it was hitting the bullet but not firing So the guy at the shooting range was like here. Just shoot this he handed us a You know like a nine millimeter or 45 semi-automatic, you know, with a magazine. And he didn't really show us how to use it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And I, you know, I emptied the thing into the range and I pulled it, the trigger and just, you know, I thought it was done and I had it to my friend like this. And he's like, what the fuck? And I was like, what? He just pulled the thing and put it, the trigger, and just, you know, I thought it was done and I had it to my friend like this. He's like, what the fuck? And I was like, what? He just pulled the thing and put it in the chamber and I was, I left the room and I was, I'm done. Well, that's a scary thing.
Starting point is 00:03:15 That makes sense. But someone should 100% show you. Yeah, that wasn't. Bless be honest though, most of the time it's like that. Yeah. I mean, the first time I ever fired a gun was like in a basement some guy had a gun and he was shooting into like
Starting point is 00:03:30 Some homemade shooting range in the basement. I fired a gun once when I was real young But then when I moved to California I bought a gun and I went to the range and I remember the first time I went to the range the sound is So terrifying like when you walk into the in you hear the boom And I remember the first time I went to the range the sound is so terrifying Like when you walk into the and you hear the boom boom and you realize each one of those could end your life easy Oh, yeah, and it's just happening all around you and you're just like hoping these people next to you keep their shit together Yeah, cuz like one of the ranges that I went to out in LA It was a like a rifle range and along it had a bunch of different ranges on I went to out in LA, it was like a rifle range and a long,
Starting point is 00:04:05 it had a bunch of different ranges on it. It's a big outdoor place. One guy just went there and shot himself. Like right after I'd been there. I was there like a week before some guy just came there and decided this is gonna be a good place to commit suicide. Wonder why.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I don't know. I don't know why you would do that. Or maybe he didn't plan on it and then once he got there He starts shooting guns and he's like you know what I'm done Yeah, seems like a weird place to put a fucking doofus. Yeah, I mean maybe wanted everybody to know This is low. I know the gun there's some buns are like like 357 or something. It's like scary. Just like it's like all Jagged and fucking kicks back and it's yeah, it's fucking scary. Yeah, the ones that really scare me though are the ones that are like smooth
Starting point is 00:04:52 No kickback really that's kind of freaky if you shoot one of those speed guns like a staccato They're like there's a plant out here in Texas. We went to visit it. They're so Precisely machine their tolerances are so small. When that thing slides, it's like, shh, shh. It's, you're shooting a nine millimeter and it feels like you're shooting a 22. I know. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Like there's zero kick to it. I shot a musket in Boy Scouts. No. Yeah. It just was like, just flame, like sparks just flying down there, left a hole like this big in the target. But my brother sent me some ring camera footage from his, he lives in West Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And he's like, check this out. And I watched it in a West, but anything that turned the volume up, and it was just fully automatic. It goes fire in the background. And I was like, what the fuck, dude? Turned the volume up and it was just fully automatic He's like yeah, dude, it's automatic salt rifle going off in my last It sounded insane dude. Yeah Cleveland. Well, it's not just Cleveland. That's out here, too I was out of friend of mine's house you can hear in the background This is just like Rambo style.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Jesus. God, my friends and I went to go see, whatever the first Rambo was that they made after like the 30 year hiatus. That's like the funny one, the new one. It's like, I don't know if they made more than just that, but the last three minutes of it, he kills like 800 people.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It's just so insane. I heard the newest Rambo is preposterous. Joey Diaz said it's hilarious. He goes, it's fucking hilarious. You gotta watch it, it's a masterpiece. It's fucking, you know, it's this crazy cartoonish, good guy, bad guy thing from like the 80s, Because it's just fucking you know, it's this crazy cartoonish Good guy bad guy thing from like the 80s, which looks so out of place, but he still makes those movies the same way
Starting point is 00:06:56 Like if you go watch try to watch any adjustments No evolution if you go back and watch like those old movies, they're so ridiculous go watch red dawn That would be like if we made the exact same record right now that we do in the first record Yeah, but the problem is like Movies are different than music because some old music is dope as fuck right like yeah, and then I guess some old movies are dope too Hell yeah, I got I got pretty into like Some later Two. Hell yeah. I got pretty into like some later, more recent era, Steven Seagal stuff, like five, six years ago. My friends and I would watch it,
Starting point is 00:07:34 cause it was just so insanely bad. And then Dan sent me a link to the Come Town guys talking about these same films. And it was like like they summed it all up so perfectly but it was basically like you know. One of the funny things is like he's so old and his special forces team that he assembles all has to be kind of his age. Which means their commander has to be like 80.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Oh my god. So they show the commander that the white must have and hold his fuck. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Tom Segura had a whole bit about Seagal. Dude, I heard a story about him from someone who would know and they said that like this super agent,
Starting point is 00:08:17 like he was the personal trainer of this like super agent. Michael Ovidz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that like, he had a bet with his with another agent that he can make anybody famous and I go how about your trainer and I guess they asked him like he you know to learn a martial art or something no no that's not it that's not it no Steven Segal is a legit a keto specialist right and that's like that's the art of like de-arming someone?
Starting point is 00:08:46 It was invented for samurai to fight against someone with a sword. Right. So it's all about like a redistribution of energy. It's all about, I commit to you and then you throw me to the ground. The problem with that is if someone doesn't commit, someone just fucking grabs you, wrestles you. You're a Division I wrestler against an Aikido guy. You're done. Aikido guy has zero chance. There's not a chance in hell you're going to stop Daniel Cormier from taking you down. There's zero chance. Hamzad's Chamiyev grabs you, you're
Starting point is 00:09:19 going for a ride 100% of the time. That's the other fucking awesome thing too, the Segal in the later films where he doesn't even get up out of the chair, he just does the shit and throws people. Yeah, they come at him and he just fucking. Is he not? So this is Segal when he was younger. This is, Segal was the first American to run a dojo in Japan. Now this is later, this is actually later
Starting point is 00:09:46 because he's already got wacky hair. Just his posture, he's so disrespectful. Well, the whole idea behind him is that he was an American who spoke Japanese, he was married to a Japanese woman and he ran a dojo in Tokyo, or somewhere in Japan. But it was very unusual for an American to be running a dojo But I think it was because he married the woman. It's ridiculous with the stuff where he's like
Starting point is 00:10:13 Have you seen the clips of him in Belarus eating the carrots and stuff? Eating carrots. There's a good some yeah, he's like hanging out with the president or dictator Belarus, but Jamie find the older footage Eating carrots I'll watch this you know Thank you His hair is insane and of course someone edited that so he's like deep-throating the carrot. He's watching makes a good like tit joke about the melons here. That's the weird thing about like old actors that like are kind of at the end of the journey and they start appearing in foreign countries meeting people and what the meat Steven so
Starting point is 00:11:15 go bring him to me and then all of a sudden he's a Russian citizen. He's got a passport in Russia like no bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. He's a Russian citizen. Right, I knew that. Mr. Putin's always been amazing to me. He, there's a weird thing with this, so this is him when he was young.
Starting point is 00:11:33 So this is before the movie days, this is him teaching Akito. This is cool. This is much better, right? But it's also not real. Like that shit doesn't work. It's like, if you learn I key to you can do some of those things That was such bullshit. He just threw the guy behind his back the clips from like the last couple years when he's doing it It just
Starting point is 00:11:55 It looks you know preposterous really it's a lot of preposterousness to I key to because the people are playing along with it They're going along with it. So that's real. It's also, you know, it's just fucking, that kind of martial art is like, it's not, you don't really know how to fight. It's like learning a language, but you only learn like conjunctions. You only learn like ends and butts and thee, and you learn a couple of vowels.
Starting point is 00:12:22 So it's how we speak Spanish. It's worse. It's worse. It's like it's You just can't only do that if you want to learn how to do that for funsies Yeah, it's fun to do but don't think you this is gonna really work There's shit that they didn't know they just like it worked for him Well would work if someone had a sword. The thing is like the Japanese samurai, they knew how to fight. And then that would be an art that they would train in just to learn how to disarm sword-carrying weapon, you know, like someone who's got something, a spear, something that's going
Starting point is 00:12:57 to get you. You lost your sword in battle. There has to be a strategy for that. So the Japanese came up with Aikido. There's this dude that makes these these he makes these dioramas like they're out like insane detail and at the whole time he's like telling a story and it's funny as hell I forget his name it's something fingers but he does one of Steven Seagal and it's like depicting the scene that apparently
Starting point is 00:13:23 happened where Steven Seagal had told some legendary martial art artist guy That he couldn't be choked out Jean Lebel Oh, that's hilarious so he does these things he's in it. Yeah, right well apparently he He choked him out instantly and he shit his pants Jean told a story. Oh really? Okay. Yeah But this is this guy's true story. It's true story. Jean's a legend. Jean LaBelle was he was a he was a judo champion and he was like one of the first guys to
Starting point is 00:13:59 Do mixed martial arts fights like he had a fight with a boxer mixed martial arts fights like he had a fight with a boxer like way way back in the day and just strangled this box and put him asleep just but he made the box were a guy I think pretty sure and he wore a G2 like there was some weird funky rules the boxer at the boxing gloves on he didn't he just beat the shit out of dude but he was the guy that also trained Bruce Lee he taught Bruce Lee about grappling like Bruce Lee about grappling. Bruce Lee had, you know, he was doing these movies and it was a little unrealistic, like some of the things, and Gene LeBow was like, let me show you what I could do to you.
Starting point is 00:14:33 He just kind of grabs Bruce Lee, flicking a hoist him over his head, and he's like, listen, settle down. Let's not pretend you're the baddest motherfucker on earth. But does that shit look good in movies though? That's no no well. This is him fighting this boxer dude Does it look like the boxer of gloves it doesn't does it yeah? He does he's got small gloves, so he's what he's got essentially on our bad gloves and Jean just threw him to the ground Fucking straight over. He just choked him asleep. Wow
Starting point is 00:15:02 But Jean's a gorilla I mean that that dude's a tank of a man. You know even as an old man some dudes in his neighborhood were fucking with someone's car and he said hey get the fuck out of here and they were like fuck you old man. He's like okay. Speak the shit out of the three of them. It was like at least two guys. I don't remember the entire story, but some poor fucking idiot wound up Messing with literally the wrong old one wrong. Yeah old guy to fuck hope I didn't fuck that story up But he's the guy that choked segaul out so choked segaul was like claiming they couldn't be choked and his move was When you put the rear naked choke on he hits you in the balls and The idea that you're gonna do that to Jean the bell like you don on, he hits you in the balls. And the idea that you're going to do that to Jean the bell, like, you
Starting point is 00:15:47 don't think he's even hitting the balls before getting hit in the balls sucks. But it's, it doesn't like knock you out. It just sucks. Like you make sure grip even harder around the neck. And you also have like a three second window before it really sucks. You know, like the delayed reaction, getting kicked in the balls, you know, there's that weird moment where you get hit You're like, oh no here it comes By the time jeans already put you to sleep I
Starting point is 00:16:16 Never got fully kicked there never only like grazed I mean, I've got three brothers, so there's a lot of ball kicking. Dude, I just realized what your shirt says. Oh, yeah. Harvard University with a photo of the Unibomber. Oh, my God. My friend Brendan makes these.
Starting point is 00:16:40 That's amazing. I know, the best thing about the shirt is it takes like an hour for someone to notice. I didn't even read it before. I was just saying hi, and then I know that's the best thing about the shirt is it takes like an hour for someone to know I didn't even read it before I was just saying hi and then I realized That fucking story is the craziest. Did you see that Netflix documentary on the unabomber? I didn't Nuts man when he was a baby He had some sort of a disease and so they had to take him to a hospital and he wasn't allowed to have contact with people So his parents weren't allowed to see him. No one's allowed to have contact with people so his parents weren't allowed to see him no one's allowed to see him I think it was for like months and for
Starting point is 00:17:10 a baby to not be touched for months just cracks you cracks you so then this poor fuck goes to Harvard and they enroll them in the LSD studies and they their goal is to see what like constant humiliation will do to a person while you're dosing them up with LSD so they're all mean to him and they're like humiliating him and then this guy decides to go to Berkeley become a professor to make enough money so he can kill everyone insane it just goes and lives in the woods those LSD experiments are hard to believe. Hard to believe?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I wonder what's going on right now. If they were doing that then, do they just say, let's just stop? Yeah. I mean, there's probably experiments that are going on right now that we're going to find out about 20 years from now.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Oh, for sure. Absolutely. For sure, right? Oh, yeah There's no way I was talking to the This chicken a party the other day and She's talking about she has a house on Shelter Island off of Long Island and how this really weird Animal was fucking with her dog and she was describing it. I was like sounds like Sounds like the Montauk monster. It was like, she had like a beak and like wallaby legs.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But she, I was like, you know, there's that Plum Island like research facility right near where your house is. And she's like, what the fuck are you talking about? I was like, I don't know. I mean, there's, Center for Disease Control has some weird island, you know. Well, they do experiments out there. I don't know. I mean, there's Center for Disease Control has some weird island. You know, will they do experiments out there? I don't know I mean, I was like a mutant platypus drop imagine they created an animal and just said let's just let loose and see long for
Starting point is 00:18:55 People find it. I got a house in South Carolina and It's like a second home and I started getting into like looking at like old houses like old plantation houses to see out like when they would come up for sale I would go look just to see like what you know because I was into the history and I looked at this one it was on St. Helena Island. It was it was really you know cool house from 1795 but as I was driving back that's kind of like With the realtor I was looking around as I realized there's this island right next to the to this place called Morgan Island Have you heard of this place? No You know five miles from where I was just at it's filled up with the Reese's monkeys that all have herpes
Starting point is 00:19:42 that all have herpes. Oh, I have heard of this. What? They feed them by dropping shit from a helicopter. What are you talking about? If you go to the island, you have to quarantine for months. Because there's these viruses that are just rapidly mutating on the island. Oh, my God! But nothing good happens on islands.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'm just like... There's someone that's a private island. There's nothing good happening on islands. Someone has a private island. This is nothing good happening on that island. Once you have your own island, that's like, you're off the deep end. Like, any story sounds so much sketchier if it's on an island. Well, maybe the Unabomber would have been more chill if he had an island versus a cabin. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I don't know. I just, yeah. It's funny that his brother recognized that it was him. His brother read the manifesto and go, oh, I know who the fuck this is. He must have some vocal tick that just drives his brother
Starting point is 00:20:53 and drew and drove him nuts and he's like, fuck. Well, his brother was a part of the documentary. His brother recognized what happened to him. That his brother knew about the childhood, the medical issue that he had where they couldn't touch him for months. So his brother knew he was fucked. Well, see, if they chose him to like humiliate on LSD,
Starting point is 00:21:14 there must have been someone that they like praised endlessly right on LSD. And maybe that's like where That's Manson. That's exactly. That's where you get the call later. That's David Koresh and Manson. Well, they definitely did something with Manson that's exactly that's where you get the call later that's David Koresh and Manson well they definitely did something with Manson too did you read that book chaos by Tom O'Neill have you heard of it I have it
Starting point is 00:21:31 but I haven't read it I buy a lot of books I don't read it's good on tape if you want to just listen to it that's better way easier yeah it's a bananas book and the guy who wrote it is my friend's neighbor. So my friend Greg, who I started comedy with, Greg Fitzsimmons, was neighbors with this guy in New York and the neighbors with him in Venice. And this guy has been writing this one fucking story for 20 years. He got hired to write it as like a anniversary piece
Starting point is 00:21:58 on the death of the Manson murders. And as he's writing, he's like, there's so much wrong with the story. And so he goes into this deep investigation of it and he fucking becomes obsessed for 20 years. This guy can't finish publishing this story and then it becomes a book and a book deal and then they bring in an editor and finally they piece,
Starting point is 00:22:15 he's got enough for another book, he said. But it's all about the CIA. Like the CIA met Manson when he was in prison. These same guys that met Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, and they taught Manson, essentially, how to run a cult. They gave him LSD, they dosed him,
Starting point is 00:22:36 they told him, like many times Manson, apparently, would not take the LSD, but he would give it to everybody else, and then while they're on acid, he's manipulating them, and then turn them into murderers. And the whole plan was just to, they were trying to attack the anti-war movement. And the best way to do it was like, instead of making this hippie movement, like this
Starting point is 00:22:56 beautiful thing we should all embrace, love and peace, let's make it violent psychos that cut babies out of pregnant women and write pig on the wall with their blood. Let's do that. And so they did that and it worked. It's insane. It's insane. And that's what they used to pass that psychedelics act in 1970. That's the same tactics. That's the whole idea was stop the anti-war movement, stop the civil rights movement. It's crazy, this is our government. We worked at a studio last year in Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:23:35 that apparently Manson recorded a bunch of stuff at. And it was crazy because this studio, it's called Valentine Studios, this guy built it like in the early 60s. He was a capital records producer, and he built his own studio so he could do shit outside of capital records. And I guess he's into jazz.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Capital records is famous, world famous, got these echo chambers that are unique to it, and very special. And he had the blueprints for the originals and just created copies of the studio. And apparently like as the music scene turned more to rock like the guy just got completely fed up with because if he was used to like cutting four songs in a day and now they've got like a bunch of
Starting point is 00:24:17 stoners working on like one guitar solo for eight hours so apparently he just like mothballed the place in the early 70s and Like used it as a storage facility for he was using the cars. He was into those little Nash metropolitan cars So like it had all these Nash parts and then the guy passed away and someone got Got wind that the studio was there and so this dude Nick like cleaned it all out so when you go to the studio it looks exactly like it did in like 1969. It's insane. Time caps.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So we were in the room and I'm sure it looked exactly the same way as it did when Manson was in there. Oh yeah. Have we ever played Manson's music? Yeah, I think once. Can we play it? With Abbey Up, we're almost potified. There's no way that someone owns a copyright to music. 100% someone owns a copyright.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Definitely wouldn't own a copyright to. Did Guns and Roses put a cover of one of his songs on a spaghetti incident album? Did they? I think they might have. I know that a lot of punk rock guys became millionaires because of that. It's all punk covers.
Starting point is 00:25:25 He kind of, he's, they funded the retirement fund for a lot of punk guys. Charles Manson, Guns N' Roses. Yeah. I don't care about you. Wow. That would have generated hundreds of thousands of dollars. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Boy. Pretty great stuff. But that's Guns N' Roses covering it.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I wonder what the real album sounded like. Did we open for them a couple months ago? Guns and Roses? Uh-huh, at the Hollywood Bowl. And like, the whole deal was like, their friend came to us and was like, it's gonna be cool. Like, they'll play for like an hour and a half, you'll play for an hour. You'll go on at like 7.30.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Neither of us have ever played the bowl. Yeah, so it was like, it was perfect. Then we show, we fly away to LA and we get, our set time is 6 p.m. Like, literally we're playing to like, a dude in the front eating the hot dog. This is so insane. And then they played for three hours.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And they played for three hours, but the craziest part of the whole thing was that, I lit a cigarette backstage and there was no smoking There's smoking man They're like, you know the smoke's going into the slashes thing So I was just thought it's funny the guy that's like known for the cigarette hanging out of his mouth Absolutely What does he do did he quit and then like now he's got this thing?
Starting point is 00:27:06 I don't know, we didn't get to meet them. You didn't meet them? No. What? I know, it was weird. That's crazy. I know. I met Axel Rose in a restaurant in Greece, just randomly.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I was eating at this restaurant and my friend comes by and goes, that fucking Axel Rose is sitting over there. I'm like, shit, we're gonna have to walk by him. It's that weird thing where you say hi to someone, you don't know if they know who you are, but luckily he did, and then he invited me to the show. I'm sure he's a cool guy.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I met him one time, he's real cool. He's very cool, but he gets bothered a lot. So I was worried that I was gonna bother him, because my friend had bothered him already. And my friend got bothered him already. And each, my friend got chewed. We were at a restaurant this past summer in Madrid. We were playing at a festival and we- Should we just pick this random restaurant?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah. For lunch. It was like five o'clock and we're sitting, we got sat next to Flea and John Fershante. Right next to their table. Right next to thema and John Fershante. Wow. Right next to their table. Right next to them. And we, you know, I was like, should we,
Starting point is 00:28:08 they were sitting there having like the most nerdy conversation. Like, if you augment the seventh, and we were just like, and we were like, whoa, my God, the orange is such nerds. But I was like, I'm gonna go say what's up. I went over and I shook Flea's hand and then I went to go shake John Fershante's hand. He's like, I'm gonna go say what's up. I went over and I shook Flea's hand and then I went to go shake John for Shanti's hand. He's like, I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And then Flea was like, excuse me, I'm gonna go wash my hands. What? And they're like, we're germaphobes. And I was like, aren't these guys like legendary like... Freaks. X hair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 What? Yeah. Germaphobes. They don't shake hands? No. No. That always wears me out. What yeah Germaphobes they don't shake hands That now No, that always wears me out like the howie Mandel thing he weirds me out. Does he bump knuckles still? I don't even know he bumps knuckles for a while. He was like I think maybe he bumps knuckles I told him I go next time I see you motherfucker. I'm gonna hug you. You're not gonna stop me
Starting point is 00:29:04 Maybe we need to invent a new form of creating each other Well, the handshake is fine. It's a good one. You know why it's good because if you hang on too long, it's weird Yeah, that's why it's good because it's like an intimate gesture. There's a gesture We're touching skin, but only for a little bit because if we you know someone hang a handshake for too long gets odd Yeah, it gets a little odd how Trump does the thing we just pull the dude. He got me did Let me tell you something I was ready for it the first time first time I met him first of all He has normal size hands. I have big hands. He has regular size hands. He's a big guy. So I Was ready. I knew I was gonna meet him. First time I met him, he came over,
Starting point is 00:29:47 just put his hands on my shoulders, and said, you do a great job. But I was sitting, you know, sitting. So this time, I actually stood up, we made eye contact. I said, how you doing, sir? I shook his hand, I'm like, oh, I know he's about to do. So I fucking anchored myself. I'm like, not today, son. Course, right. Not today. Would you give me a nice pull pull? I'm like, but we're hanging on for a while So then the next time I met him he was at a UFC as well. Did he try to pull dude? I'll tell you what happened. Okay, I'm sitting down and he looks at me and he goes like this And he gets up starts walking towards me and I I get up and I reach over with my hand and he I get up and I reach over with my hand and he gets it. And I'm over a table.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I'm over a table. He really fucking got me. He got me good. He got me good. He got me good. I'm like, this motherfucker learns from his mistakes. He got me. He used your energy against you.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Is this the time where he gets me? Let me see. No, this is the time he tried. He tried to get me. He's hanging on for a while. See look look at you Do you're shaking? I'm anchored. I'm resisting. There's a lot going on there You know got mad at me jack wipe got mad at me that I shook Trump's hand So I'm like stop crying settle down and stop crying
Starting point is 00:31:04 Would you okay if I shook Biden's hand? Are you paying attention? You might crush his fucking fingers. You'd try to get your... with those fucking bony old broomstick hands. Oh, I'll tell you when I was younger. I fucking shook the shit out of your hand. Just come up behind you and sniff your head.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Bro, I'd love the gas lighting. There's this one guy that I follow on Instagram. I only follow for gas lighting. And he's like this like hardcore Democrat dude. And he was talking about how amazing Biden's state of the union speech was and how inspiring it was. It just really feels, just feels so good about things right now. How about you folks?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Like what the fuck are you talking about things right now how about you folks Definitely had him on a drug drug cocktail. We were trying to figure out what cocktail I'd like to know want to get on it Yeah, I want to know It's probably the Hitler. He's probably been in bed since the speech Eat nice cream was kind of recuperate bodies fucking zapped Bro, what are they giving him? What are they giving him? What does it feel like? I would imagine if I was gonna dose up the president they brought me in amateurs pharmacologists. I would say
Starting point is 00:32:19 Vitamin B12 I'm like give him the whole vial Intramuscularly 45 minutes before he has to do activities the next thing I would do is peptide He's got to be on everything. I want him on BPC 157. I want him on opa morelin Tessa morelin. I want him on everything then I want him on testosterone I want you to just jack them up with bodybuilder like levels. We're gonna kill him But he's gonna die anyway. And then I would say speed. We need some fucking Adderall. I was gonna say, couldn't you just do-
Starting point is 00:32:48 We need to chew up some Adderall. Wouldn't some old-fashioned meth just- Not enough. Not enough. He needs like his body to have at least some resistance to what you're gonna throw at it, to try to make him articulate. I would give him a lot of things. I'd give him growth hormone, I would give him everything. Peptides, vitamins. Dude, he's come to the podium looking like swamp things. NAD. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Just blow him up. Let's go. I want him purple. I want him on that podium looking purple. Just swallow it up with creatine. I would dose him up on everything and I'd only feed them bison meat
Starting point is 00:33:26 That would be that would be a good supplement company. It was like We're gonna give you the authentic JFK. Yeah, here's the JFK cocktail. Yeah, exactly. Here's what he was into. Yeah, JFK apparently was that was Dr. Feelgood that was the whole Dr. Feelgood was a doctor that they would call upon. And apparently the White House has doctors like this as well. That you call upon and say, you know what? I'm having a hard time sleeping, Doc.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And they hook you up with Ambien. Or they hook you up with anti-depressants. Or they hook you up with Xanax. If you're feeling depressed, Max Jacobson. Dr. Feelgood. Oh, he was Elvisist. Miracle Max. Elvisist Doctor.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Give me the Elvis cocktail. Jacobson dr. Feelgood Give me the L this cocktail you have like yeah historical figures favorite drugs. Yeah Yeah, give me the Biden. Yeah, give me that Biden cocktail. What are they doing? What JFK did not know is that the injections were actually powerful doses of a combination of highly addictive liquid methamphetamine and steroids So that's what I would give them see that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, I know these things I should be working for the White House. I'm sure there's beats well in that shot, too They just if that's what my appointment would be for the Trump White House I'd be the new I'd be the new Rachel Levine. You'd be the new Dr. Phil. Yeah, give me in there And I'll fucking straighten everybody out the supplements are and I've got everybody on
Starting point is 00:34:48 edibles yeah I want the whole staff to be terrified all day long everybody should be at board by their dad's knees over toes squats I have a hot yoga room there let's go kettlebells all over the fucking White House let's go let's go kettlebells all over the fucking White House. Let's go. Let's go kids big fucking on it banner Yeah, teach all our trees Everybody's drinking killcliffs. Let's go. Yeah What's it okay proclaimed I don't care if it's horse piss it works care if it's horse piss, it works. He had severe bouts of back pain, apparently. He has like some really, really serious fucking disease.
Starting point is 00:35:30 What's this about Mickey Mantle? He treated Mickey Mantle. For a case of the flu, oh, you got the flu, let me give you some heroin. Injection into Mantle's hip caused severe, obsessing, septic infection at the injection site that hospitalized mantel and threatened his career. But that's just staff. That can happen because it was just bad medical advice. That has nothing to do with what he gave him.
Starting point is 00:35:56 What did he give him? Improper practices. So this guy was just a wild dude. There's a book called Dead Doctors Don't Lie. and it's by a guy who advocates mineral supplementation. We do it with animals. We do it with, and he was saying that so many diseases that people are getting is a result of your diet. And he goes, you need to pay attention to doctors and how they live their lives.
Starting point is 00:36:22 These guys that are telling you, you need to do this, you need to take this, you need to take this medication, they're all in cahoots with the pharmaceutical drug companies and they're all super unhealthy and a lot of them are addicted, not all, but this is what this guy was saying, a lot of them are addicted to drugs and so he tells a story about this guy
Starting point is 00:36:38 who was in the middle of surgery and he goes to go do coke and he has an overdose and dies. He's a's fucking these guys Dead in the middle of surgery because they were so cranked up there because they could give themselves whatever the fuck they wanted So these guys would all take whatever they wanted Man Yeah, you got to be careful if the person telling you how to be healthy is a fat slob not good And it's really common. It's really common at doctors offices to like If the person telling you how to be healthy is a fat slob, not good.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And it's really common. It's really common at doctor's offices to, like, see a bunch of unhealthy nurses. Doctors used to smoke. They used to be in there with a fucking cigarette. My dad, uh, my dad walked into a door in the middle of the night in, like, the mid-70s, broke his nose. And, um, and, uh, he went to go get it straight in a couple weeks later so the doctor had like crack it crack it and my dad noticed like the next day like he couldn't taste anything smell anything and he went back to the doctor's office it was like I can't I'm not you know can't smell or
Starting point is 00:37:41 taste and the doctor apparently was smoking and took his asterisk and put it up to his nose and like, can you smell this? And my dad said, no, he's like, yeah, it's probably not coming back. Whoa. And so I was thinking, like that happened to you now, you'd get like a hundred million dollar settlement. It's probably not coming back.
Starting point is 00:37:56 It never came back. No, he still can't, my dad can't smell. Whoa. Yeah, you'll be like, you know, you can't smell at all. Just from a broken nose? Yeah, it's like, you know, you can't smell at all. Just from a broken nose? Yeah, it's like, you know, when you taste with your nose pinched, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So he can taste like hot sauce a little bit. Oh man, that's gotta suck. Imagine not smelling bacon. Since when did that happen? It happened before I was born. That's crazy. I was born in 80. But he'll get these phantom smells.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And he'll be like, and I'm'm like what smell do you miss the most? He's like gasoline I love the smell of gas Why was it gear head when I was kid that's my I've got a barn with the motorcycles and that's the first thing my son says Soon as he gets in he's like Kids love this. What is it? What is it? They love markers to the whole sharpies Dude, they do you ever see the photos of all the people that have been arrested for huffing? It's amazing
Starting point is 00:39:00 It's kind of lost popularity that huffing I feel well a lot of that propolis died off Everyone busted for a thing dude. I think that one guy got busted a ton of times Wow, they all kind of little sparkle in their eye that guy that guy's been busted. I believe more than once Oh my god It's just fucking so silly you know those guys that stand on the corner and like the painted suits Mm-hmm like the gold suits they just look like they were just blowing those dudes Well those dudes how toxic must that shit be you put that shit on your body all day? Let's still her paint by the way, what a stupid fucking thing to do with your time. Yeah, not a good one
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah dumb ass way to spend your day didn't turn to be a robot didn't someone on like the set of like a Bond film die from being painted on gold? I think so in the 60s. Yeah. Urban legend. I mean, it's an urban legend, but I think that might be true. The internet kinda fucked up urban legend. It definitely did.
Starting point is 00:40:16 There was one that someone sent me about Einstein's chauffeur being smarter than him. Yeah, that was going around yesterday. No, no. I sent him immediately, I sent him the fucking articles disproved of them. That's not going around yesterday. No, no. I sent immediately I sent him the fucking articles disprove them. That's not true. Here it is. Goldfinger in the myth of Bond Girls Death. It's a myth. Marketing baby. What was the whole idea that she was was she supposed to be a gold human? Was she
Starting point is 00:40:40 an alien? What was she? I don't know this movie's kind of blow They were really into painting naked women's bodies in the 60s in movies yeah, oh, yeah Well, that's the weird hack for hose that you can go out public with your titties painted Like you could like a lot of gals will use as excuse to walk around topless like for Halloween Yeah, it's probably way to avoid sensors back then. Paint them rather than show it. Yeah. Probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Sensors. So that's not true, huh? Fuck. It would have been a fun one. Yeah, it's weird when you start finding these things out, you just been living a lie. Have you guys heard of those ladies that used to paint loom on watches? They used to, what is it called? Radio, radium, radium girls.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah they would lick their paintbrush and they all got horrible cancer, their faces rotten holes in it, their jaws fell off, terrifying shit. Yeah I mean my mom has a bunch of that fiesta wear. We used to eat off that all the time. Apparently, the red is like highly radioactive. It's true. Really? Yeah, because they were using uranium,
Starting point is 00:41:59 and then they started using depleted uranium. Oh, god. But it's like, yeah, apparently. Did you get any superpowers? No, I'm just... Nobody gets superpowers. Dude, my brother gave me, my brother, the same one that sent me.
Starting point is 00:42:16 He does have a superpower, he can guess people's birthdays. Is that... I'm just not really super power, it's just, it's pretty... How good are you? I can guess within three years I think for anyone oh within three years. Yeah. Oh, so you're guessing their age? Yeah, but I can do historical figures I don't really know who they are. I mean It's not a hundred percent, but I've been pretty close with their birth date. No, like their year their birth year. Okay
Starting point is 00:42:46 What year was I born? 1968 67 pretty close. Yeah, just name anybody else. Okay, Marlon Brando. That's good Give me a second 1922 Oh Within three years Wow 24 Wow Do you do that? That's pretty impressive. It's just keep it 100% accuracy. I don't do we we went we made our new record Collaborating with people And one of the guys on our list we want to work with was Noel Gallagher from Oasis So we kept reaching out to him and seeing like if he would be up for it and we kept hearing back that he doesn't really do that and
Starting point is 00:43:55 Remembered that my my neighbor who I golfed with used to be Oasis's agent So I asked him if he could like reach out. Through that we got we heard back that Noel you know would be up for recording with us if we went to London. So we flew all the way to London and right at the small little studio and we barely knew Noel we've met him briefly you know but we went in there with no song and sat down with them and within a couple hours, we had a song written and recorded. And we did it three days in a row and we had four days booked.
Starting point is 00:44:36 After the first day we were like, we got what we need. This would be cool if we got more. The rest will be gravy, but we never need. We got it on the trip. And we got the second day we got more of a rest will be gravy but we never need we got of the trip and we got we got that you know the second day we got on the game and the third day we got the song called only love matters but the fourth day we showed up and we're like we are not fucking pressing it like we we get you know we got off we went three for three but we're not gonna let's not push our luck let's not fuck
Starting point is 00:45:02 this up so we just spent the whole day just bullshitting with him. But yeah, that's like the same with this. I don't want to guess another birthday. I don't want to fail. Yeah, I got it. Yeah. You've been rock solid so far this show. On the game, the fucking album is amazing.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's so good, dude. It's so good. Thanks, man. And thank you for letting me listen to it early. I played it for everybody in the green room and people were like, oh, shit. It's so good, dude. It's so good. It was so much. On the game, I told you, I find myself singing that.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Like when I see people out trying to hook up in bars, everybody's on the game. It's fucking great. That was such an amazing feeling being in the room with him. We cut it in the studio called Toe Rag, and the live room is this size, like this room. So Pat's drum kit's here, little keyboard here, I'm right there, and an old one right there. We're just in a circle.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And what you hear on the record is the take we did. It was like the second or third time we got through the song without fucking it up. Wow. It's amazing that you guys can put together a song. It is the best feeling. It's so addictive. It's the most addictive thing ever.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It's gotta be. Being able to like get in the studio and make something out of nothing like that. In fact, you guys can do that in four hours. It's just insane. That was the thing. Ever since we met, we've been able to do that. Ever since the first fucking time, we got in a room together. He had a four track and we just instantly sounded fucking fun and cool.
Starting point is 00:46:32 You know? And it's like hearing that and then getting that feeling has been like, feels like driving force in my life. You guys are like one of my favorite origin stories for bands Just like the way you guys work together the way it works that you've known each other forever It's just the whole thing is awesome. It's just what everybody hopes for an origin story for a cool band that you like We've got this doc that's coming out at some point that It's cool. We premiered it last night, but
Starting point is 00:47:04 It was cool all the felt All the footage that the director found of like the week, you know, because we weren't taking photos and stuff back in the day, but to see all the photos from 20, some years ago. Yeah, stuff I didn't even know existed. I, some of the shit I didn't even remember at all. Yeah. And there's video of it. It's crazy. Wow. at all. Yeah. And there's video of it. It's crazy. Wow. The cool thing about like on the game we got everything but the lyrics you know but the melody was there and that you know we kind of made a point when we make with making this album that for the first time we were going to like I guess kind of do it you know do it the way that maybe bands used to do it in the 70s, I guess like we were gonna stay at the nicest hotels the funnest hotel most fun hotels we were gonna
Starting point is 00:47:53 Have fun So like when we were out in London, we were staying at the children's firehouse Just kind of partying every single night and then dragging herself to the studio one night Noel was hanging out with us and night and then dragging herself to the studio one night Noel was hanging out with us and he was like pointing to some girl at the bar and he's like oh she's for sure on the game and we're like we've been hanging on you know 50 times but I we'd never heard that expression we're like what's that he's like oh she's you know working girl she's probably you know she's probably prostitute which checks out I I think.
Starting point is 00:48:25 There were a lot there. But then Dan was like, yeah, everybody hears on the game. But making this record was so much fun. How can you tell if someone's a prostitute? I was in Miami, and my friend was like, there were so many prostitutes at that hotel. I go, how do you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:44 This is Miami. There are a lot of gals dressed like hookers here. Like, how do you know? This is Miami. There are a lot of gals dressed like hookers here. Yeah, it's kind of incriminating if you know. Like, how do you know? Did we play this show once a long time ago in Portland, Oregon, and there's a band playing with us, and they were older than us. We were like 22, they were probably 30.
Starting point is 00:49:00 They're like, guys, be very careful here. It's really dangerous. There's a lot of drug dealers Especially in the park especially in the parking lot like just don't be careful So we're like fuck okay, we like got in our car and locked the door like Harker down hunkered down like what waiting we have we had eight hours till we played and then we're like Accidentally kind of just like staking out the fucking club and this guy who just warned us about this shit He comes out and we watch him try to buy drugs.
Starting point is 00:49:27 The guy like literally like takes his money and just runs down the street and now the whole band's chasing this guy. Ahh! The guy who warned you. Yeah, yeah. Of course. That's how it always works. That was when we played at the Satiricon.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Yeah. The Satiricon. The stage was carpet and they had had like clown wrestling the night before so the carpet was all they had cake All in the carpet just remembers like There's nobody there Absolutely nobody there no one in fact two people walked in and then they left they walked in there Got the fuck out of there. That's apparently where I guess that's where Kurt Cobain met Courtney Love was at that club Yeah, it's no longer there, but it had been there since the 60s cream had played there
Starting point is 00:50:14 Back in the day. That is fucking nuts. Yeah, we we saw it on its way out Cream played a place that tiny yeah't even make sense. I know. Wouldn't they have been huge by the time they come over? I mean it's surprising the size venue certain people were playing. Like Hendrix used to play the Felt Forum. We don't need to look it up. How Hendrix used to play the whiskey. Yeah I mean like Hendrix would play the F for him at or something as as band of gypsies That's only a couple thousand seats. Hmm When Phil Harmon was a kid it was like I think it was an 18
Starting point is 00:50:52 he was working at the whiskey as like a stagehand and he had to Keep his hands on the the speaker that was on the stage because it was like a little kind of rockety And Hendrix was playing right in front of him. He was 18 years old. He's like Hendrix is literally standing in front of me. Oh shit. That's incredible. He did a bunch of album covers right? Yeah, Hartman did a bunch. We have one of them framed out here. Oh really? He was so fucking funny. Oh my god. Oh he's's such a good dude horrible way to go man Although I never saw that coming actually honestly, I mean he was asleep, so
Starting point is 00:51:30 He was asleep. Yeah horrible that he went but well horrible period the whole story is horrible insane My friend was a cop. I had gotten over it and I was getting ready I Would be like I took a couple weeks off. I was like, there's no way I could be funny. I was just like, it's not possible. And then I decided to go to the comedy store. I'm like, I gotta get back in there.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I just gotta live on with my life. And so I'm in the gas station getting gas. My friend pulls up, it was a cop. I knew him from Jiu-Jitsu. And I'm like, what's up, man? What are you doing? And he goes, dude. He goes, I'm really sorry about your friend. He goes, I was on that.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I go, you were there. He goes, he goes, listen, the mother took the children into the bathroom and she had a gun. And that's when they decided to break down the door because they knew that she was going to shoot the kids and shoot herself. break down the door because they knew that she was gonna shoot the kids and shoot herself and the cop broke down the door and the kids ran from their mother and then their mother blows her brains out. While my friend was there. Holy that was Phil Harman's wife. That was Phil Harman's wife. Yeah I heard she shot him in the head in the throat and in chest. Well, she was on Zoloft and apparently cocaine.
Starting point is 00:52:51 And they won some sort of a settlement with Zoloft. Apparently when you mix Zoloft with cocaine, it's not good. So this is a supplement, this is a cocktail that you don't want to. You don't want that one. You don't want that one. You don't want the Bryn Hartman. No. Yeah. It sucked. Yeah. This is a cocktail that you don't want to you don't want that you don't want the Brin Hartman It's yeah, but so I went on stage and a
Starting point is 00:53:15 Shit oh my god. I mean boy did I eat shit? I mean I was there was nothing funny coming out of my mouth It was I was so depressed. I guess I couldn't shouldn't have done the set. I was so depressed I just was like hearing that story. It's just like bouncing around talking about That at all. I just talking about a brief it briefly. I did because I couldn't get over it I just was so fucked up by it. You didn't have any jokes together yet about it. No, I never did I never could I mean, there's nothing there. I wonder How you could sue a former school company because you had an adverse reaction from mixing it with an illegal substance I don't know. I think they probably just paid some money just for everybody shut the fuck up
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah, that's probably what they do You can't blame someone for taking something illegally with your drug when it probably specifically says don't do that But maybe they didn't know don't do that or you might fucking shoot someone in their sleep. But I mean, that lady was mean. You know, it was particularly hard for me because I was trying to get him to break up with her. Multiple times. He had left.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I told him to get divorced. I'll never forget this. I said, dude, just give her half. Just give her half and get out. You're always going to make more money. Just get out, man. And he said dude just give her half just give her half and get out You're always gonna make more money just get out man, and he said it's not half he goes It's two-thirds the fucking lawyers get a third. It's goddamn scam You know and he was just but he was also freaking out about his image because he was a family guy And you know he didn't want to get divorced he wanted to like keep everything intact
Starting point is 00:54:43 So he would keep making up with her and she would insult him in public. It was ugly, man. It was ugly. It's crazy when people that you think are so big and powerful are being abused by their partner. It's common. I know. It's common.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I know it is. It's so strange. Why is that? Yeah, there's guys that you would never expect and they just get ran over in their house what is that I don't know man I think it has probably something to do with your childhood probably something to do with what you've accepted in terms of like what a relationship is the kind of relationships you I am talking about us bro it can happen you how much how much emulation you've gotten while on LSD? Yeah I Think it evolves over time too, right like some people they get together with someone and then over time someone starts being a cut Do the guy or the girl it's just like
Starting point is 00:55:36 You know people change and if you're stuck with that person and especially if you have kids with that person, right? I filled it It's like what do you do? How do you resolve this? How old are those kids when they were very young? Oh my god. Yeah, it's horrible. The force in California is hard Sounds brutal Yeah, but it's a lot better than your mom shooting your dad while he's asleep and then talking to you But I was gonna kill you much better. Yeah, we better Yeah That's definitely not good. Oh, that's better. Yeah, way better. Yeah, that's definitely not good.
Starting point is 00:56:07 It's just like, you know. Dude, you see the divorce happen all the time where the wife gets a lot of money. I've seen it happen the other way at one time and it was Kelly Clarkson's husband. He got like a shit little money. And all these divorced dads were like posting, like get that bad king.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I just kept sending them to Dan. I was like, dude, this is outrageous. This guy is our hero. Get that bad king. You remember when Mackenzie Bezos and Jeff Bezos got divorced? Mackenzie made like $38 billion in divorce settlement and then she married a high school science teacher. So it was like a dude who's worth $3,200.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Just married a woman worth $38 billion. Like good luck for the rest of your life. You better sit down when you take a piss because if you leave that toilet seat up, it's over. Like you're not, you've got to be on your best behavior, sir. This is not a balanced relationship. Bezos has been seeing Doctor Feel Good. You think so?
Starting point is 00:57:10 He looks ripped, man. Yeah, he looks a lot better than he used to look. He looks like a completely different person. Dude. He's like jacked and wears nice clothes. I mean, yeah, seeing the old footage of him just like hunched over, nerd, fucking, and... Elon Musk is kind of the same way too. Just like looking. Look at you. It's such different people dude. Yeah a guy we know
Starting point is 00:57:30 Good, it's good. Yeah, it's good. It's really better a guy We know is like one of the first 40 people hired for at Amazon working in Bezos's garage and he was sent to Delaware to set up the first East Coast distribution center and Did he was getting like Something crazy like you got like 40,000 shares of Amazon stock and only like 10,000 shares vested And the rest would vest this is like, you know late 90s the rest would vest in 2005 or something but like when the dot-com bubble kind of burst in 2000,
Starting point is 00:58:07 the value of his stock went from like $3 million potentially to $1 million and he basically quit the job before it vested. And he cashed it all out basically for like $750,000. And he ended up moving to Akron. So we were buddies with this guy. He bought all this recording equipment and stuff. And he moved to Akron because it was so cheap that he was just kind of gonna open a studio.
Starting point is 00:58:32 But if that stuff invested, it'd be worth like over $100 million. Oh my God. I know, dude. Oh my God. All he had to do was just work at that job for a few more years and just never touch that Life lesson. Yeah, I heard a similar story about a guy who had Apple stock in the very early days. Yeah and got rid of it Fucking insane amount of money
Starting point is 00:59:10 Apple such a bizarre company So bizarre they're so successful like what other company is figured out of me That's so successful that they're the money that they have just their cash is like a trillion dollars It's it's like a lot of countries, GDPs. Yeah. You know who's? Rockstar video games? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Those guys are fucking crushing. How much money do they make? Well, it's weird how you can protect a video game so thoroughly, but you can't protect much other intellectual property. It's very hard to protect jokes. Jokes get stolen all the time. That's a real hard one. Doesn't Apple just keep all their money in Ireland?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Not pay taxes? That's what I would do if I was progressive. Exactly. That's what I would do. I'd talk about diversity and equity, that I'd fucking send all my money to some offshore account. The fuck out of here. You don't get none of this.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I'm the one who made the iPhone, you fucks. Mine! Jimmy at all. Well, it wasn't jobs as an LSD guy too. Didn't he come up with the idea for Apple when he was on LSD. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did. Yeah, there's something, something about LSD that was about jobs inspiration to start
Starting point is 01:00:34 Apple. We've been noticing people taking LSD a lot recently. It's becoming very popular. The spray. The spray on the tongue. It seems like it's getting around. Yeah. I've heard
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah, we only had the LSD that you got from scary old hippies This is still from scary old papers squares. It's but it's uh Apparently it's very difficult to make so when you get it. It's like where did you get this? Who's getting it who's making it? There's only a few people in the country apparently that know how to make acid Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's like growing weed. It's a complicated process Yeah, my grandfather was a chemical engineer and I have a bunch of his old textbooks and I'll Get him out and show him to my son because it's just like the math problems are just like,
Starting point is 01:01:25 he's a really little kid, but he still understands that there's no numbers in these math problems. It's just letters. But I like it this stuff. These books are from the 40s. And I'm like, to get a PhD in chemical engineering in the 40s, you had to be really fucking smart. There's no fucking calculator. It's a slide ruler. I
Starting point is 01:01:46 Mean people must have been way smarter back then they probably were it's probably it meant a lot more Oh, yeah, those are the people that invented acid. Yeah, that's now the people we have now in that bath salts Is that still a thing I Don't know. I was in a hotel and they had like, you know, all the little accoutrements for the shower and one of them was bath salts. And I was like, you said, I know what I'm doing. I know.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. Castation and it would say bath salts not for human consumption But it was a like a kind of meth and what they had done is it engineered some amphetamine to be like one molecule Different or something like that they can kind of do that weird little game It was like Delta 9. It was like methamphetamine 3 right, but it like but the side effect was people would like eat each other's faces Dude, did you see the fucking guy in Haiti? The fucking gang leader? Barbecue?
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah. Yeah. Eating the fucking charred calf? Eating the meat of a guy that they burned alive? Yeah. Fuck. Oh my god, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:02 What the fuck? Yeah, people need to see those videos even though they're horrifying just to understand There's people out there in the world gang leader named barbecue is now most powerful man in Haiti as US evacuates Americans, so he's now the most powerful person in Haiti the guy who ate that guy Boy, that's not good and what? What happened to Haiti? Like what was was it a coup? Like what happened there? I don't I'm not I heard there's two rival gangs. They just shut the airport like a week and a half ago
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yo, that's not good That's not good Nope, they're evacuating Haiti? Wow. That's crazy. That's crazy that a modern country could just be taken over like that by a guy who eats people. It's...
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah. That video is fucked up. That video is fucked up. And the fact that that's his nickname? Yeah. His nickname is Barbecue. It's incredible. It's like a South Park. It's like a idiocracy
Starting point is 01:04:07 But you know what a reminder me of is we talked about this the other day the faces of death videos Do you remember those things or yeah, like you know realize like only kids were watching There's like I love to see a documentary on like the making of faces that like who made the grown-up making that for the kids Barbecue That's how you gotta start Around for over two years and that has nothing to do with the current uprising Okay, but it's just old not footage. Is it not the same guy? this Okay, but it's this old footage is it not the same guy this
Starting point is 01:04:47 Whoever's digging into this this times now has not been able to independently verify the veracity of the video The man chewing what appears to be a finger and then proceeding to tear the flesh of a leg of a body that is burning Soon as they get boots on on the ground there. They'll figure it out Yeah, I figured out the video circular time time is when when Haiti's notorious gang leader barbecue is on his way to become the most powerful man in the nation. So it seems like it is true. They just have not been able to independently verify the veracity of the video. Well that is a problem today with AI. That could be horseshit. That could be something that someone made I mean you could probably get AI to say I want a man who's a rebel soldier in Haiti eating a Barbecued leg and I think AI can do that now
Starting point is 01:05:33 Well, just crazy. Can we get AI to make a recipe that tastes like human flesh? What if it's really good? They say tastes like pork They would call people long for someone who is that cannibals they would call they'd call humans long pork long pigs long pigs yeah that's what Jesse Ventura he's always talking about long pig now what's his face that comedian who does the Jesse Ventura impersonation it's just will sasso. I watch that for hours. It's a fresh. It's the only stalks about long. He does the head bobble Tuesday Will sassos editing students so funny. It's so good. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, yeah, Jesse Ventura
Starting point is 01:06:15 He's a he's a fucking interesting character. He lives in Mexico. What's his cocktail? Cuz he seems like he's he's not good He's got Parkinson's. Okay, you know when you're a pro wrestler and you're getting slammed around a lot Like there's a high likelihood you're gonna have severe brain trauma Like those guys are getting beat up all the time it back then they didn't know they didn't even know that you're getting CTE from that He went on the Theo von podcast and like Theo gives like a disclaimer at the beginning like This is like the worst interview that's ever been done Really because I couldn't get it word and edge wise. He's like just
Starting point is 01:06:50 Just know that I know that but if you watch it, it's an hour and a half of just him just going no break Really? Oh, it's it's incredible. So he just talks. He just talks and just like, you know, it's like Incredible so he just talks he just talks and just like you know, it's like Shoulder what I was talking about everything like rock and roll. Let's like it's like he just doesn't stop There's no questions really. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. How weird it's worth watching I wonder if he knew who Theo was I Don't know didn't didn't necessarily seem like it. I did a podcast with him a long time ago, and he was fine.
Starting point is 01:07:28 He was interesting. There's like a lot of stuff that he did, like, remember that conspiracy show that he did? He was like trying to figure out whether or not Lee Harvey Oswald could have shot JFK. It's kind of funny. He was like one of the first conspiracy theory guys. Yeah, yeah. Okay, it's kind of funny. He was like one of the first conspiracy theory guys. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:07:47 It's like Using this rifle like he was making shots from the window the whole deal. The story is insane I mean the whole story of him is crazy green brain. Yeah Actor well, he's a UDT. He was one of the original sales insane. Yeah He was awesome in predator. I Don't have time to bleed Was that him to his line? I don't know that might have been yeah, he had the good face paint in predator That's another one of those movies go watch it again. You're like what? Yeah, it's ridiculous
Starting point is 01:08:24 Those always like that. He loved as a kid are fucking terrible. The only one that holds up is Goonies. Goonies holds up? Oh yeah. Goonies holds up. But I try to show this. Yeah, I got time to bleed. You're bleeding man.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I ain't got time to bleed. That fucking guy was the governor of Minnesota. I love that premise though. There's just this like, I mean, we need more movies about that. Special forces hunting down like some alien life form in the jungle. Did you see the newest predator? The newest predator is actually good. It's called prey The the predator comes down to like, you know 1700s America like that and this Comanche woman
Starting point is 01:09:16 Fights the predator. Hmm. It's crazy. It's ridiculous. But it's fun take it's fun. It's a fun movie, but it's good When it's like well done a couple years ago. I think it's a take it's fun. It's fun movie, but it's good. It's like well done a couple years ago I think it's a Netflix movie honestly Hulu it's a hulu movie hulu It's good. It's fun Pray yeah Yeah, the idea that you'd have a fucking chance You know like I've never made it through an alien movie the alien alien. Yeah? Yeah, never? No, there's just so excruciating and boring to me.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Ha ha ha ha. What about the first one? Oh, I like, it's just, there's no way anybody born after the year 2000's watched Alien. Ha ha ha. Without looking at their phone. If they have, it's like, they should get a medal. Without looking at their phone.
Starting point is 01:10:02 If you try to watch that movie, The Abyss, I've never tried to watch a movie more. That's the one in the water. Yeah, dude. I just like, I'll look at my phone and be like, this has been going on for 45 minutes. It seems like three days. I've never tried to watch one more. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:20 But you're right. A lot of those movies, our attention spans were off the charts. Yeah. Compared to what they are now back then. Well, that's the people doing calculus on an abacus. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's the... They had a lot of time on their hands.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Well, yeah, you weren't being inundated with information. You had more time on your hands. And you probably were better at concentrating. And they required you to concentrate at school at every level. Whereas now they're just kind of like letting people graduate. And you're creating a drug that Gets you fucked up for eight hours Yeah, that's how much time you had yeah now. It's like
Starting point is 01:10:53 What's that what's that weed people smoke today? Just think they get the disassociate for like three minutes ketamine. No, it's like a weed they smoke salvia or something Oh, yeah, salvia divinorumorum that was really popular about 10 years ago well that was because it was a it's a very potent psychedelic that somehow another slip by that 1970s sweeping psychedelics act and you could buy salvia again not for human consumption you will buy that places I had a buddy who he moved to Akron from San Diego he's a really cool dude and you, there weren't many, nobody I knew was really into drugs at Akron at the time.
Starting point is 01:11:30 But I think he was pretty druggy in San Diego. But this guy, he was talk, he'd always talk about drinking gypsum tea. Have you ever heard of this? No. And he said that his girlfriend, his girlfriend made some, you can just of this? No. And he said that his girlfriend, his girlfriend made some, you can just find this stuff,
Starting point is 01:11:49 you know, like anywhere in California. And it's chips and weed. You make a tea and then, like, his girlfriends are freaking out, and start talking to like little people in the room. And he drove her to the hospital and the doctor was like instantly, like did she have gypsum tea?
Starting point is 01:12:08 He's like, yeah, he's like, dad, this is what always happens. And like, she was seeing little blue, little blue people talking to them, like smurfs. Here's my question. What if little blue people are around you all the time, you just don't detect them? Well, I mean, how does everybody have the same trip off the drug?
Starting point is 01:12:28 Right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. What if there's neighboring dimensions that are accessible through some drugs and some drugs let you see the blue people? Like, what if that's like Smurfs? The guy figured it out? Well, yeah, it's like, I think once we were on here, we're talking about like simulation theory.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And I've, you know, but I was thinking like, yeah, maybe like, you know, if you can't process like things with the human mind like, uh, infinity or something, there's gotta be some, if it is a simulation, there's gotta be some sort of code that you can put in, like so that you can't- Yeah, allows you to the process. Yeah. Yeah Well one of the weird theories about this all this UFO shit is that they're not coming from another planet
Starting point is 01:13:13 They're coming from another neighboring dimension Right and that sounds stupid, but so does sending a video on your phone to Australia If you right lived in, you're like, what the fuck are you talking about? If you pointed to a telephone and said, one day people are gonna jerk off to that, you're like, what? Yeah, you're gonna have it in your pocket
Starting point is 01:13:33 and you're gonna watch porn on it. Shut the fuck up. Sounds ridiculous. One day you're gonna be able to travel in neighboring dimensions. We'll crack this code and we're gonna slowly start sending things to neighboring dimensions and having them return and then we're gonna realize start sending things to neighboring dimensions and having
Starting point is 01:13:45 them return and then we're gonna realize that human beings can survive there. Yeah. The whole UAP thing, it's been boggling my mind. I mean I've been into it since I was a little kid but you know that one time right after we were on the show the first time I met Tom DeLong and Blink 182, he came to one of our shows in Denver. He was so cool. I was like, what's up? And it was right after that first kind of pill-shaped thing
Starting point is 01:14:14 had officially been acknowledged by the Navy. And I was asking him about that, because he was associated with that video. And yeah, he's put me in a huge existential crisis right before we had to go play in front of like 12,000 people. He was like, they're listening to everything. They're cloaked. There's thousands of UFOs.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Every single piece of text that gets sent is analyzed to create AI. The AI models, this is 2019. It's like the AI models they have would blow your mind. He's like, something so profound is gonna change the world forever in about 90 days. This was October likerd, 2019. And it was like, you know, COVID was like,
Starting point is 01:14:49 you're like, I can't tell you what, but it's gonna change everything. It's gonna be so fucked up. Tom DeLong knew about COVID. I don't know, dude. He told me that the world was gonna be profoundly changed forever in a way that no one could understand in about 90 days.
Starting point is 01:15:02 And I was like, dude, the guy's really out there. And then like, dude, I was like, what the fuck? And then you had to go on stage. Yeah, well, dude totally freaking out. And then like basically everything he told me has been true. Yeah. That's what's weird. The AI, everything, all the videos from the,
Starting point is 01:15:22 yeah, flying saucers or whatever. I had Ray Kurzweil in here yesterday. Whoa, really? Yeah, and I was asking him about the potential negative downsides, what's the possible complications of AI? And they don't want to talk about that. They want like all on the gas. This is gonna be good, everyone's gonna be smarter.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Yeah, yeah. It's all, I'm like, are there guardrails out there? Does there anybody, is there a regulatory body in the United States government that's even capable of understanding what these people are talking about? So, what could be like an example of a worst case scenario? Weapon systems. A.I. getting... Weapon systems. Weapon systems that are A.I AI controlled that have an objective
Starting point is 01:16:06 That's why don't they have like aren't all the nuclear missiles or they were like weren't they all off line? So they can't get hacked and they're all Operated by like a nine inch floppy disk from the 70s like some absolutely there was something crazy It's some it's some technology that like you probably never even seen in your lifetime because it's sold right I don't know if that's still the case But when I was first getting into computers floppy disks are all you use but not the fucking big all the big crazy ones Yeah, oh the original and they hold like 256 kilobytes And that's enough that's enough to fucking blow off the world
Starting point is 01:16:41 I mean you look at what how the they dropped you've ever seen the video of them using the Enola gay drop in the bombs off it. It's like it's so crazy so crazy just like a propeller plane to fucking propeller plane drops a nuke and Then they had to get out of there. Let's get out of here There it is update complete u.s. Nuclear weapons no longer need floppy disks Look at the size of that thing. It's from like last year problem the modernizing effort was quietly completed in June three years ago Modernizing look at those discs October 20 Wow, well that makes sense that that would be a good way that you were would
Starting point is 01:17:20 Like make it hack-proof. I don't know me. I prefer the analog sound of the analog nuke. I'm a purist. It's digital nukes. And then now they've got hypersonic weapons that could change direction in flight with nukes. Well, I think that AI stuff, I mean, the stuff that AI is capable of, you know, like when it comes to manipulating stock markets and it's too much to even think about for
Starting point is 01:17:54 me. Oh, it can do so much. Yeah. And this is what I kept saying. And if it's in the hands of the wrong people, what do you do? Like if one group gets control of AI and then uses that AI to take over. Like if you have artificial like complete intelligence that's sentient and then you give it a task, they've already shown that these
Starting point is 01:18:15 things are capable of lying. Like they trick the CAPTCHA system by saying that they're vision impaired. You know that you are you a robot thing that actually I'm vision impaired. Like oh okay. That's another movie from the 90s that doesn't get old is Terminator 2. That's good. That's a good one There's a bunch of moves. I know but they just have to be like really good movies You know you can watch some movies from the 60s that are amazing the hustlers amazing Yeah, there's some great fucking movies that are old movies But boy a lot of them in the 80s, when everyone was doing Coke, they were fucking terrible, horrible. They just, it was the weirdest, you could literally see the drug not being there anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:55 So you see like the things that they were doing in the 60s, the music in the 60s, the movies in the 60s, and then you see the 70s. And it's like now now no one's doing psychedelics and now the music is getting weird and in the 80s no one growing up doing that music is done psychedelics so in the 80s you've got hair bands and craziness it's just like a totally different feel and vibe to the culture it's like if you're observing our culture and you looked at like the Vietnam War era The 60s the hippies the music Hendricks the doors and then you go into the 80s. You what the fuck happened?
Starting point is 01:19:33 What the fuck happened? This is crazy. Yeah, you went from that to Focusing all yeah, and I run I run so far away But it's it's we it's a weird shift you go from that to poison, you know, like it's a weird shift But but at that point that's when hip-hop got grimy. That's true, too. That's true, too Well, that's a hip-hop emerged right hip-hop got grimy in the 90s Yeah, the 90s hip and then then that is just fucking craziest of crazy theories that hip-hop was a CIA Funded operation and it was designed to fill their prisons him This is like the most recent of all of the crazy hope. I hope it's not true conspiracy theories
Starting point is 01:20:19 Never heard that never heard that CIA funded the development of hip-hop. Well, the CIA has good taste. They've been funding a lot of great shit like they need to drop some knowledge drop something now because There's a lot of trash. We really got into this Specific hip-hop in the last couple years that we that really only exists on YouTube like an early 90s Memphis cassette tape rap. Oh, wow. It's not on Spotify. It's not on anything. It's it's only fan uploaded and It's like completely existed under the radar. I really didn't know about it like pattern I just you know we're lifelong rap fans and it was crazy to like discover New shit that I'd never heard before like maybe some of the best shit ever
Starting point is 01:21:05 People like Tommy Wright III, 3-6 Mafia, Juicy J. We got really inspired by this guy, Lil Noid, who made an incredible record called Paranoid Funk in the early 90s. And you can only get it on YouTube? Only get it on, yeah, you can only get these records on YouTube. Lil Noid, Paranoid Funk, Jamie.
Starting point is 01:21:25 They all sound incredible. They all sound amazing. The Fidele's all fucked up because they recorded in weird ways and bedrooms and... They got 8-track cassette recorders. It's like this really unique... And then they're all mixed down to cassettes. So all the transfers are from cassette. They have a specific sound.
Starting point is 01:21:44 It's fucking incredible. cassette. They have a specific sound. It's fucking incredible. Scary, they sound scary. And a lot of it, a lot of it's real kind of murder involved and like also like occult kind of shit. Oh shit. And it's very slow. Some of it's kind of demonic.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Some of it's a little demonic. Damn. There's like one or two songs that are from these guys that are on Spotify, like that Lil Noid has a song called Riding in the Chevy, which you can find on Spotify. But the song. Somebody needs to turn these guys on to barbecue.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Barbecue needs to hit us, man. Demonic. Dude, we were making the record. No, we were making the record and we called Lil Noid. Oh, wow. And we got in touch with him. We found him. He was in Memphis and he drove up and hung out with us. And we got him on track.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Wow. Like, we were hanging out for a year and a half making this record. And after we'd go DJ and shit, and three in the morning, we'd be driving to the hotel, and we'd always put on Lil Noid. And we're just like, man, what would it be like if we got Lil Noid in the studio? And we fucking did it.
Starting point is 01:22:44 And it was incredible. And we got Ju Noyne in the studio? Yeah. And we fucking did it, and it was incredible. And we got Juicy J also to be on the track. But we reached out to this guy, Tommy, right the third. It was like, these guys have made these incredible records. So Lil Noyne has got an Instagram. Yeah, that's how we found him. We sent him a message. Really nice guy.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Really nice guy. If you guys support the project, A for the FIF, make sure you book it in the Grammy. Go get the Grammy, go get the Grammy, go down on the song. Go get the Grammy. His story's crazy, because he made this album, it's incredible. It's like a classic to me.
Starting point is 01:23:15 And then he, I think before it even came out with the prison for seven years, his career got completely destroyed you know, destroyed. And he was just a teenager. Yeah. Wow. But it's crazy because we, you know, we hadn't heard anything really recent from him, but we hadn't come to the studio. And within about, I guess, 30 minutes, he had all like two verses written
Starting point is 01:23:41 and it sounded the same as it did in the 90s, you know? Like those tapes in it. And he was, you know, he was so nice and just like, he was also just like, you know, kept asking for cash for various reasons. And we just kept giving him cash. He's like, I gotta run a car. I need $600 cash. Oh, he was the shit. That's cool that you got a hold of him. That's pretty badass
Starting point is 01:24:10 It was really fun. It's great that you put it on the album We didn't expect to it was just a thing we tried and it was like fucking. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we don't know We're doing yeah, but he crushed it and like juicy J put scratching on our we would never think to put scratching on one of our records, but that's what he heard when we sent him the track. He put it on there. There's something cool about those guys that are willing to make their own stuff,
Starting point is 01:24:35 like in the middle of Memphis, just figure it out, just put it together. I love very small little projects where people are piecing things together. I mean, that's how so much of the music we like came together. Absolutely. Stacks and high records for that. And Lee Scratch Perry they're like all just like very eclectic people who are doing it all themselves. Yeah. Completely DIY. Do you know Tonetta? Have you heard of Tonetta? I have not. Tonetta's this guy in Canada. I think he's in Toronto and he does
Starting point is 01:25:04 everything like he was doing these YouTube videos. And he does these videos and he put out an album. I have this album and I can't get the full album on Spotify for some reason but you can get it on Apple. But he's he does he has like a fucking like a towel that's like a curtain behind him. And he's playing the music and playing the track and singing put on really big cock Because it's all freaky stuff. He dresses up like a woman. It's real weird You got to see this because it's
Starting point is 01:25:37 Tonetta a really big cock Really good cock Okay, you got it. It was just a still frame. Okay Documentary on YouTube about him to oh really. Oh interesting. So this guy I found out about this guy Look at this guy Now keep going bro, but it's on YouTube that doesn't matter it doesn't matter It's good. Unfortunately. God damn it. Everything's on YouTube. Yeah, we get polls or copy I want that guy to get more attention though. That video looks like it's like 30 years old. It's probably he's probably is he still live?
Starting point is 01:26:23 I don't know. I don't know when was that made Was uploaded at least 10 years ago Most recent comments says you're gonna make this guy rock star. Oh, there's me Trying I was trying back then. It's fucking great. I mean it looks but it's the music is fun. It's Man I Didn't want to see that It reminds me of this band Kind of reminds me of the band if you heard of the band the frogs no
Starting point is 01:26:59 These are from Milwaukee from the 90s, but it's kind of frog frog ask from Milwaukee from the 90s, but it's kind of frog-esque. Did they dress up like frogs? They were really, really kind of made. Like, guar? They made some pretty insane songs. Yeah, but yeah. Well, one of the fucking cool things about today, as opposed to when we were kids,
Starting point is 01:27:22 is that you can instantaneously get music. Oh, it's crazy. It's so straight. I mean, I remember very clearly the reaction to Napster when everybody freaked out over Napster. I, you know, was thinking like you're not putting this genie back in the bottle. Like how are you gonna do... now that people know that they can use BitTorrent and they can download things for free and send things to things for free and send things to people for free. We've been DJing, spinning records, 45s, you know, just like really getting back into
Starting point is 01:27:52 collecting vinyl and obsessing and trying to find good copies of shit. I've got this one song, Kumbia da Sal, that I play, kind of like every night we DJ. I put it on the other night in New York City and this girl came up to me She's like I heard that in a restaurant this week This is possibly rare 45 just anybody now can have access to it It's actually inexcusable to have bad taste in music now if you have bad taste in me, right? I mean the amount of money I spent as a teenager On stuff that turned out to be horrible Because you couldn't check it.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Yeah, you couldn't check it out at all. And I just like, I would just buy a record based on the cover or based on someone talking about it. And I'd just be like, this is fucking horrible. Back when I was a kid. Well, you'd go to the record store. And the people at the record store was always the thing, like the guys working there would always shit on your taste.
Starting point is 01:28:43 It was like real pompous, record store people. It's all the coolest fucking people. They wanted to be the person we did date. That's why we wanted to work there. But then the craziest part is when you get older, and you realize what fucking losers those people were. You're like, I thought that person was cool, and they're fucking 25 making minimum wage
Starting point is 01:29:02 at a fucking record store. What a fucking loser. It was the attitude they carried Yeah, they were like a librarian. Yeah, oh, I only listen to stockhausen Stockhausen. Yeah, I'm only interested in European music. Yeah, I don't dig what America's doing these days Yeah Yeah, they would go and look through albums Yeah Yeah, they would go and look through albums
Starting point is 01:29:24 That was a big thing like the art of the album was a big part of the experience of buying a record Oh, yeah, big part that just died It died with the CD CD is like it's so small. So it's like looking at something on a flip phone and it was fucking broken. Yeah Tracked right there was dropping cases. I mean, I can't even keep them in those book those big giant Oh, I have all fucking scratched mm-hmm. Yep. They get scratched and I even bought a cleaner thing But you would you would polish the top edge to remove a lot of scratches We had this we had a book when we were on tour, but we had this credence CD. It was gold
Starting point is 01:30:02 It was supposed to sound better, remember that? Yeah. It was a gold CD? It's a gold CD, I don't know. It was supposed to sound better? Yeah. I was just thinking about looking at an album cover now on the Spotify. I don't even know if I would recognize certain album covers
Starting point is 01:30:18 from new stuff full size. What do you mean? I don't know. It makes my eyes are bad or something. One thing the Spotify does that's cool is if there's a music video that goes along with the song, you see the video on the phone. So if you want to watch a song, you have to see the artist actually play the song. We've made some of these because we have the image on our record covers, you know, woman bullying her rear end.
Starting point is 01:30:45 And I found these videos like a year and a half ago where they're like, you know, they're just like really offensive bullying animations. Like when someone would get a strike, it was just, so it's like a bowling ball, like it's like Lee Harvey Oswald and Execute the pin which is jmk. Oh my god. There's some really insane ones. There's But we had the guy that made those so we hired that guy. We have one like this is nowhere The newest song though. Yeah, the bowling ball
Starting point is 01:31:22 Takes ass in it's pretty good. They're not nearly as good as the really offensive ones that are high-level. Our bubbles just won't let us be offensive. The really offensive ones, what do you mean? Well, it's like, yeah, there's like a 9-11 bowling ball. You know, when you make a strike in a modern, or you know, bowling alley, they have the ball, you know, well animation animation You should find maybe
Starting point is 01:31:51 Yeah, I'm looking up aren't real there's people that have made no these are not a slightly offensive not a lot of them are real there's This is the 9-11-1, 9-10. Oh my God. Oh my God. The Lee Harvey Oswald one's very good. Yeah, you can still be offensive at a bowling alley though. Think about the people that bowl. Their tolerance for offensive jokes is probably pretty high.
Starting point is 01:32:21 They welcome it. Yeah. Yeah. Bowlers. There's no pretentious bowlers Don't think so. No There's this restaurant in Akron called the Ouija's it's like, you know one of the Oldest restaurants there. It's this old Italian joint That's been there since the 40s and
Starting point is 01:32:40 The whole walls is plastered with these You know, these, you know, promo photos from the black and white promo photos that are signed and it's all professional bowlers. Like it's crazy to be like, bowling must have been just massive in Akron in the 50s. These guys were celebrities coming in. It's like, look at this. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Oh my God. Oh my god. Oh This is a fucked up It's a JFK bowling pin It takes it out That's insane this one's great What is this one? Oh My god This one's great. What is this one? It's like Desert Storm. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Oh Jesus Christ! The bowling ball guns down the terrorists. It leaves one terrorist running. So it's a bowling ball with a fucking terrorist outfit on? Oh Jesus Christ! Oh my god. A pin on each side split is Jesus. Oh my god. Shout out to the corridor crew. Those guys also make those fake like robot videos we take at the music ball. Oh really? We're really good digital artists. damn. That's hilarious. Yeah, we used to those guys Which ones the publicist wouldn't let you do I mean
Starting point is 01:34:12 No, she was telling us what not to say and what you listen to say today We told her we're told her we're fucking 44 year old men They tell you what to say and not to say that's hilarious. Oh, it's hard enough to just talk That's me thinking about what I can't can and cannot say and don't bring up vaccines Don't talk about the climate actually the last time we came on a show right before we came on our we had a different publicist and they were like You really should reconsider It's a very bad look to go on Rogan. Yeah. Insane.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Yeah. But we realized like actually, it's like the actually, we, it's a bigger audience than anything else we possibly would ever be presented from the publicist. Like if we got even like Rolling Stone magazine, I think it, you know, the circulation's like maybe 600,000 or something. No one sees it. Do you know who's on the cover of Rolling Stone this month? No, yeah
Starting point is 01:35:10 It's not what it used to be no it's just it's weird now. It's very weird imagine a publicist suggesting we don't do broken Well, it's liberals. They're crazy. There's hardcore leftist ideologists of this really bizarre idea in their head. What do you think is going to happen with the election this year? It's going to be nuts. Did you just give me your publicist to tell you not to talk about that? Geez. I was joking. Why do you hear the craziest joy here today?
Starting point is 01:35:41 I keep getting these texts from the Democratic Party like Are you gonna vote for Joe or Biden? I'm like Who said why would they be sending that text? They must you know? They must know What are you the craziest story I heard today? So Candace Owens released this video in which she says that the president of France who was married to a 70-year-old woman who he met when he was 15, that that woman is actually a man and that woman fathered five children and apparently she's saying there's some journalists
Starting point is 01:36:25 who've reported on this. This is like some theory that people have had forever, and it's been a rumor, but these people actually investigated it, and she's staking, she said, I stake my entire reputation on this. This is true. Dude, I want to go on an island. I want to move to an island. Be careful. Be careful. Watch Island. We've been over this.
Starting point is 01:36:48 But if that's true, that is one of the most wild stories of all time. That the president is married to a woman who's pretending she's a woman. It's even wilder than him being married to a woman that was his teacher, that he was fucking at 15. At 15. Yeah. It's the only way you can make it more wild it's it's It's crazy
Starting point is 01:37:12 Because if that was a man did he know at the time when he was 15 you're 15 you're probably not good at judging Whether or not someone's got a real one or something that's been doctored up That's a good point. That's a good point. It is a good point except now I'm correcting myself because I'm saying what kind of fucking trans operations were they doing back then? We were talking about 40 years ago. Only a 15 year old virgin could really get fooled by it. Yeah, 15 year old would have no idea.
Starting point is 01:37:40 And then this person's like much older than you so they're really good at manipulating you. Like this is the only pussy for you. Yeah, the only one Forever forever forever. I'm with you. I have not heard this conspiracy. It's a wild one. I love it I love a good one. I love a good. What the fuck story? Yeah, you know There's so many big Mike ones. They think that Michelle Obama is actually a man It's hilarious It's like
Starting point is 01:38:11 It just takes on a life of its own No matter how ridiculous something is it takes on a life of its own Yeah, so that's the yeah, come on. That's the woman. He's married to That's the woman he's married to And so that's the the daughter Posts his first novel addresses mean comments about her mother Wow, she looks like a woman to me But I've been tricked before
Starting point is 01:38:42 She looks like an Olson twin Hmm, I got well cared for Olson twin who made it to 70. Yeah. Yeah. She looks like a woman. But Candace Owen stakes her reputation on this. Daily Walker votes Candace Owen stakes her entire professional reputation on French first lady being a man. This is just wild.
Starting point is 01:39:01 She just knows her audience, man. This is wild shit. Did just knows her audience, man. This is wild shit. Did she just have another kid? Maybe she's got some hormone imbalance. Postpartum. Yeah, yeah, sounds like postpartum. But she was saying this, she was talking about someone else's reporting of this. She's not like she's done this investigative journalism herself. Some other group. Who has written the piece on it that she was talking about? Were they investigated this?
Starting point is 01:39:27 Apparently for a long time. I just- That's like the longer you investigate, what if you're just a bad investigator? That's true. I mean, we could be investigating something for decades, but it doesn't mean it's- Good point.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Better researched. Yeah. Yeah. We've been investigating hit songs for 20 We've yet to have one But that's not true though you guys are ready. It's I mean like a technical hit like something that's charted in the top 40 How do they know now with everybody's streaming shit, how do they know? How do they know? What goes on the chart?
Starting point is 01:40:09 I don't know. Is it sales? Is it radio plays? The charts, I think it's a combination of sales and radio play. Streams and radio play. But it's weird, you know. You can just have some idiotic thing that hits on TikTok and you can have I Saw this art artist today
Starting point is 01:40:32 They have like 15 million monthly listeners they've released two minutes of music But they have but you know, we've put out, you know, whatever like 12 albums over 20 years They have two million two and a half million more listeners than what we do So it's instantly Instantly, which is you know, it's crazy school. Well, it's interesting to watch it happen because this is a new thing You know, it's a new thing with Ticktock and YouTube and all these different things these social media hits very weird. It's weird to watch It's really weird to watch. It's weird to watch. It's really weird to watch.
Starting point is 01:41:06 It's weird to watch and if there's the option for like this instant success, like what's the, then people try to do whatever that person did or a version of what that person does and more and more outrageous. Like all these people pulling pranks. Like someone's going to get killed. These people have gotten close to being killed like some guy pants this dude and the guy's gun dropped out of his sweat pants outside of like this hip-hop place yeah what pants to do to the hip-hop and his fucking gun falls out and you're filming it? Yeah. Yo. I don't know, man. They've been saying that for years. Ever since Jack asked, even before that probably.
Starting point is 01:41:50 That's true. I mean, we're fucking humans. We're always going to kill ourselves. We're so stupid. I mean, I didn't like Johnny Knox feel like, fuck up his dick. Yeah, he broke his dick. Yeah, you like, filleted fuck up his dick. Yeah, he broke his dick. Yeah, he, like, filleted. And it fucking just... Ugh.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Yeah, what did he do to break his dick? I forget. I think he was trying to flip a motorcycle. Ugh. And he liked the element or something. That guy's been punched by Butterbean. He's like, so many things have gone wrong. He's one of the nicest L.A. celebrities.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Very nice. But he seems awesome. Yeah, he's awesome. He's a of the nicest LA celebrities. Very nice. He seems awesome. He is awesome. He's a cool ass dude and his wife's really nice too. But the fact that even after being a movie star, he's still willing to go to a bowl, launch him through the air, blindfolded. So he has to use a catheter for three and a half years.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Jesus. Whoa. Yeah, he landed on his crotch. The bike flew into the air and landed on his crotch. Oh my god. Oh, so it works. Yay. This dick works. Somebody that works for us was just talking about how they had to have a catheter and they kept getting hard on him. So they had to grease it before they went to bed. Yeah. Imagine if that's their thing now. It becomes like a fetish, like a foot fetish. kept getting hard on them. So they had to grease it before they went to bed.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Imagine if that's their thing now. It becomes like a fetish, like a foot fetish. Exactly. It's like the sexual cannibal. Imagine trying to bring that up with a lady. And I say, well, there's this thing I like to do, I put a sub tube down. Sub a tube. Wait, what? She was open for anal. anal like what are you saying? What are you trying to do to me? Where's the tube go when it's inside of me? What if it gets stuck in there? No? It's just me fuck me with a tube in your dick you psycho
Starting point is 01:43:37 It's only a little piece of the tube. I won't go in all the way what? And then the tube guns I was getting stuck in there like that sea turtle where they have to pull straw out of his nose Oh my god, man It's a little too excited and he rams it in too hard shit fuck It's horrible because there's fucking tears coming out of the turtle's eyes. You know what I mean? I just like that video. It's the worst video that video ruined straws. Yeah now straws are all paper That's why the straws wouldn't 100% okay without fucking hate come on because if it's really cardboard straws are the worst soggy straw if it's really
Starting point is 01:44:13 for just animals we would have gotten rid of bottle caps a long time ago bottle caps are one of the biggest problems with birds birds eat these fucking bottle caps they don't know what they are. And so they find these plastic floating bottle caps and wind up eating them. There's like videos of these, they've done autopsies on these birds where they open them up and their stomachs are filled with bottle caps from like plastic bottles. So the idea that you should use a paper straw in a fucking bottle that we have a cap. What about the caps? What about the wrapping the paper straw comes in?
Starting point is 01:44:47 Shut the fuck up. It's one video, one video of a turtle. It has to be. Cause here's the other thing too. If you have a paper straw, I guarantee there's a coating inside of that paper straw that has to keep the straw from turning into mush. What's that coating made out of?
Starting point is 01:45:05 Is it worse for you than plastic straws? I have a feeling it probably is like what's in that fucking coating? But let's find that out find that out Jamie. What is in the coating in paper straws? Because it can't be good for you. It could just be wax. I hope it's wax dude speaking of that Do you know anybody that like actually enjoyed wax slips? The little liquor inside of it? Yeah, like what the fuck was that? What's in it there? Most common used coating material for paper straws
Starting point is 01:45:35 are polyethylene PE or acrylin resin. The same materials used for making plastic bags and adhesives. Paper cups are also coated with the same materials as paper straws. Okay, is that shit bad for you? So you're sucking on a plastic bag? You're sucking on polyethylene or acrylic resin is what you're sucking on. So here's the question, how much of that gets in your system from that? Because we know that there's
Starting point is 01:45:59 microplastics that are in everybody's body. You're getting microplastics all the time. So is this shit bad for you? What is the side effects of this stuff to sit side Jamie? Side effects. Let's try that Side effects in humans. Is it safe? Burning sensation in eyes polyethylene has been extensively reviewed by regulatory authorities and determined to be non-hazardous By normal roots of exposure including including skin contact, inhalation, and ingestion. Oh, that's straight from the chemical company. Okay, here it says, exposure to high doses of polyethylene was found to decrease cell
Starting point is 01:46:37 viability and increase the production of reactive oxygen species in cell mitochondria, which are vital energy producing organellis. Orgonellis? Seems like it's not good for you to get a lot of it. But they're saying it's okay in the doses they're giving you. It's been shown to have adverse effects on cells, exposure to high doses of it. So if exposure is the high doses of it are bad for you. What is this?
Starting point is 01:47:07 How bad for you is exposed to low doses? Is it accumulative? Does it build up in your body? It must just hang out in your liver or something. Like what are those forever chemicals that everyone's terrified of? Right? There's like certain forever chemicals that are coatings of things that can get into your body. What does that mean? Because people say that all the time. These things have like BPAs, they're forever chemicals.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Right. Maybe like the half life is just incredibly long. Okay. P-F-A-S, that's what it is. Forever chemicals found in tap water. Jesus Christ. PfAs are purr and polyfluorinated Ackel substances known as forever chemicals are a large chemical family over 10,000 highly persistent chemicals that don't occur in nature. Oh great They don't occur in nature, but we know how to make them
Starting point is 01:48:03 They don't occur in nature, but we know how to make them. PFOA and PFOAS are found in items ranging from cookware and paper food packaging to personal care products carpeting and firefighting foam and provide stain resistance. PFOA is a suspected endocrine disruptor and possible carcinogen and PFOAS has been linked to fertility problems. We are fucking poison in ourselves. Oh man. We are poison in ourselves. I had this lady on, her name is Dr. Shanna Swan, and she wrote a book called Countdown, and it's all about all these different microplastics and chemicals getting into our bodies and the effect that it's happening on human development
Starting point is 01:48:46 It's bananas. I bet I mean I just I remember going through my grandfather's Garage as a kid and just seeing like this is in the 80s, but see you T. Well my mom Yeah, you see keep it DDT in our present. Oh, yeah, no way, but he would have all the stuff It was definitely illegal by the 80s, you know, like whatever chemicals and spray shit. That shit, I mean I'm sure there was such crazy... That's how my grandpa died. He was a handyman in a yard guy and had his own company and you know, for every job he
Starting point is 01:49:19 would take the fertilizer in the bucket, put the water in, he put his hand in and he'd stir it up and yeah, he had his bone cancer everywhere. Oh, God. It's like roundup or whatever. Yeah, it was just the common thing he got at the harbor. Dude, I've heard horse strays about people at golfers who keep their teas in their mouth. Because shit, they put on a golf course that's fucking horrible.
Starting point is 01:49:42 I've heard that too. Jamie, you're a golfer. Yep, I'll do it. Bad. I've heard that too. Jamie you're a golfer Do you know of anybody who got sick from doing that? What is it? I knew a dude who lived next to a golf course and from drinking groundwater got bone cancer Yeah, it's all the heavy not just him But a bunch of people in his neighborhood to the point where there was some sort of a class action lawsuit This dude had a fake femur. He had like a rod because he'd develop cancer in his femur. Dude, they like paint the grass and shit
Starting point is 01:50:11 and they put all this crazy. That's why becoming like a new parent nowadays is such madness, because you start to investigate this shit and it's fucking crazy. The fear is it just continues to get worse. It's not getting better. And there's more of these kind of chemicals things that are introduced into our lives and as industrial
Starting point is 01:50:30 agriculture grows and regenerative agriculture is more difficult to do and it's sort of niche it's scarier and scarier. You start going down like the rabbit hole like like what is it like the chemicals from like antidepressants don't you know they don't deteriorate so they're like now and you can find them in like tap water yeah you find them in piss people piss them out so rare a rare snopes true the story I mean it I don't know about how much it happens but it happened for sure and it's a pretty crazy okay it says Navy Lieutenant George M. Pryor 30 played 36 souls of golf the Army Navy
Starting point is 01:51:06 Country Club in Arlington, Virginia Even before the last hole Pryor was complaining of a headache by nightfall He was feverish and nauseated and developed a rash Four days later Pryor was in Bethesda Naval Hospital with 104.5 degree fever his body covered in blisters He died ten days later after a toxic substance had burned the skin from 80% of his body covered in blisters. He died 10 days later after a toxic substance had burned the skin from 80% of his body and caused his major organs to fail. The toxic substance was determined to be dachanil, an FDA approved fungicide that had been sprayed on the Army Navy golf course twice a week. Prior apparently at
Starting point is 01:51:41 a hypersensitivity to the chemical used in fungicide causing a severe allergic reaction His widow filed a 12 20 million dollar lawsuit against the manufacturer diamond shamrock chemical company The lawsuit was eventually settled out of court Wow Yeah, man. Whoa Heavy whoa Just put a T in your mouth. That's like I think that the Bill Murray character in Caddyshack, you know, I think he's affected by the golf course chemicals.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Well, it kind of makes sense that like it doesn't really make sense you have that much grass. Like, how do you have all that grass? How do you, what do you do when you keep that grass happy? We hung out with Bill Murray last week. What was that like? He introduced us on stage was fucking amazing introduced you and then he jumped on stage and started playing bongos while we're playing lonely That's amazing that's amazing. He's a man. He's like how old is he? I think he's born in 1950 1950 he's 74
Starting point is 01:52:52 He's just fucking like fast smart nose he hasn't slowed down at all I heard he doesn't Have a phone do you have to call an answering? He's just he's just whip smart and like just like 1950 BAM son on the nose three for three That's four. That was a fourth, right? It's just so fast You know me was at the third one really usually nice um Yeah, I'm a super fan of Bill Murray and uh, I've actually Just too nervous to even speak to him the first time I met him. I sat right behind him Actually, my brother sat right behind him and I sat right behind his brother at game seven of the world series in Cleveland when the Cubs beat the Indians.
Starting point is 01:53:29 And it was amazing, but I was too nervous to talk to him. My brother, of course, hit him on the shoulder. I was like, you know, Bill said something sassy to him, but his brother had like, you know, like the font on his phone at like 72 point, you know what I mean? I could read it from behind him.
Starting point is 01:53:47 And at one point he was texting someone and said, what's the score? I'm too drunk to read the scoreboard. I'm too drunk to read the scoreboard. I'm too drunk to read the scoreboard. I'm too drunk to read the scoreboard. I'm too drunk to read the scoreboard. I'm too drunk to read the scoreboard.
Starting point is 01:54:03 I'm too drunk to read the scoreboard. I'm too drunk to read the score this a lot is like watching sports in the 80s when I was a kid, like, how do we even see the television? Like, because the TV would be like this big. Yeah. And you watch the footage on YouTube now, like it looks, did it look better on TV back then? Because you can't even see what the fuck's happening. You're probably getting copies of copies, so maybe it's deteriorated, but the television quality back then because you can't even see what the fuck's happening like you're probably getting copies of copies
Starting point is 01:54:25 So maybe it's deteriorated the television quality back then was awful. I mean, I'm trying to think that anybody actually watching anything I mean, that's what like my dad used to always just listen to the games and I'm like what Probably was better than watching the fucking thing. Yeah, I wonder I wonder how good the cameras even picked up like high-speed motion Yeah, I wonder. I wonder how good the cameras even picked up like high speed motion and shit, right? Because it's all just film cameras, right? Wouldn't the exposure vary depending on what you're focusing on? Yeah, old basketball footage is pretty trash. Let me see what that looks like. Old basketball. Let's watch some basketball from like the 50s.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Let's watch it from the 80s. You won't be able to see anything. The 80s. The 50s probably looks good. Yeah. OK. The 80s. Let's try basketball from the 80s. Yeah, they didn't have digital cameras. Big difference.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Look at that shit. You barely see what's happening. Well, they would be able to focus on people's faces. But when you're watching guys run and they change their distance. Maybe that's why Wheaties were so popular in the 80s because it's the only time you could clearly see the basketball players.
Starting point is 01:55:36 That's hilarious. Look at that footage. Dude, you can't make out anybody's face. Yeah, everything was so low resolution. You either have to have sports illustrated or Wheaties to tell who's fucking playing sports. Yeah, the resolution's awful. All of the 80s footage is like this.
Starting point is 01:55:54 You could recreate this in AI like that, no problem. I'm actually trying to shoot a real UFO with a camera like this, trying to show it to you. No, man, I saw it. Have you ever seen anything? You know, I saw something once and it was right after 9-11 and it was weird because I'd seen this fireball kind of go through the sky like a day or two earlier This is all during the no-fly period of time
Starting point is 01:56:30 right after 9-11 But what I saw that was I still don't know what the fuck it was was and it was I was driving My girlfriend from Akron to she went to school at the time. She's going to Oberlin It's really liberal school out in middle of nowhere in Ohio and I was driving out there and it's on the way towards the FAA headquarters, is it like in Lorraine or Illyria, Ohio? That's where they monitor all the flights for North America or for the United States. And anyway, I was driving out there and I saw this thing however and over her house and it was, you know, I took, no, because it's like no fly zone on it was like right and it looked like a helicopter or something
Starting point is 01:57:09 like because there's a light coming down, but but no other lights and But it was like only a hundred feet above this house in the middle of nowhere right along the same stretch of road Right seeing this fireball a couple days earlier, and I was driving a stick shift Ford escort and I put it in neutral and rolled down the windows as I got closer and there was like no sound coming from this thing. And my girlfriend had one of those next telephones, the early cell phone and she turned it on
Starting point is 01:57:42 because you should call someone, call the police or something, this is insane in the minute like the screen turned on this thing just like took off it didn't go like thousands of miles an hour but it went really really fast it made no sound and this was like that's the only thing I've ever seen but I still don't know what the fuck it was Wow but you see weird shit like in Ohio because there's Wright Patterson Air Force Base there. Yeah. One time I was driving,
Starting point is 01:58:08 we were on two rides driving us and Wright, like, the tree lines on the side of the road and Wright, I'm just driving in a harrier, just like pops up, you know, those planes that can kind of just popped up, like Wright, maybe hundred yards from the road But yeah, that's what that's where they apparently keep the alien corpses, you know Yeah, that's what they supposedly flew the wreckage from Roswell, New Mexico to write Patterson Air Force Air Force Base
Starting point is 01:58:37 It's a good place to keep it because I'm from Ohio and I've never actually been into Dayton, Ohio Just the outside of Dayton. If they do still have that there, that's really rude. You should let people see that. If you guys really did find a fucking Crash 2FO, how about a little heads up? It's rude. It's rude that they've had it for so long
Starting point is 01:59:02 and people go to their grave just guessing. But don't they say that like the recovered, apparently the recovered materials and stuff, in order to not have to turn it over to the public, they keep just giving it to private defense contractors? Really? That's who holds the materials? I think that's who holds the materials. I think that's what that well I would imagine If I was the government and I had a crashed UFO
Starting point is 01:59:29 That's why I bring it to the private defense contractors I would they're already good at keeping secrets They already know how to make your weapons and they know how to do stuff that you don't know how to do They're doing it for you like it's not like the fucking government themselves makes the missiles There's a hire people to make the missiles. There's this massive building in Akron called the air dock It was built in the late 20s So they could build blimps because he that they used to build all the blimps in Akron It's incredible looks like Star Wars. I mean it's fucking nuts because it's right in the middle of a neighborhood
Starting point is 01:59:59 It rains. It has its own atmosphere rains inside there. Wow It's the most ominous looking structure. It's so fucking long and big. It's like, yeah. That's so big. It's like right, you know, it's like you can see it from like the whole south side of the city.
Starting point is 02:00:19 But now they have like this crazy perimeter around it. It's Lockheed Martin, I think controls it. I don don't and I like what the fuck are they building in there? But you can't get close to it. You can't get close at all what they're building there is probably Minor league stuff the stuff they build out in the middle of nowhere. That's I'm saying carved into the mountain That's the scary shit. That's what I'm saying. I think most to what people are seeing is a government aircraft I'm saying I think most what people are seeing is a government aircraft You're a drone or something. That's why they won't even acknowledge the hypersonic missile like this They just announced that they're like discontinuing research on the hypersonic missile when clearly clearly they they must have thought you know
Starting point is 02:00:57 They must be fully operational Yeah, I would imagine they would tell us Like they don't have to that's one of the most incredible things about the way the government works is that the amount of money that they get, that was the argument for the reason why this hasn't been disclosed. Like the government doesn't wanna come out and say,
Starting point is 02:01:16 it was the money allocation. Like you had to have lied to Congress about where the money was going. Well, some of them are saying like, it's like the opposite of brinkmanship. Like there's weapons that exist that if other countries knew they existed, would just be such a fucking threat
Starting point is 02:01:32 that it would cause awards. The idea that someone had something like that no other country had, that you could wield that kind of weapon. So there's like these weapons to get invented that have to remain top secret because it would just upend the whole fucking power structure. Damn. Well, if that's what those fucking drones are, that makes sense. If the whole power
Starting point is 02:01:54 structure would get, I mean, how would it not get upended by something that doesn't rely on conventional propulsion and moves insane in a way that like it's not even physically possible? We'd no sound that tic-tac thing. Like if that thing is ours and they've had it since 2004. Right, imagine what they're at now. And also, what are they making now? I'm sure that AI stuff is just that's the weapon that like I'm sure. Yeah, I mean. And they're also developing quantum computing, which will apparently like all passcodes all that nonsense. It's all out the window now. Yeah, it'll be able to sort all that out really quick
Starting point is 02:02:33 Yeah, I mean That's what Yeah, I think yeah things are gonna get progressively more insane over the next decade. Yeah, they're gonna get fucking real weird Exponentially crazy next decade. Yeah, they're gonna get fucking real weird exponentially crazy real weird But I yeah, Dan. I always talk about what why are all these billionaires building? We looked at some bunkers But you want to live though you'd be surprised what you can find like the old missile silos really cool furnished fully furnished If we go back to full-on Mad Max days
Starting point is 02:03:06 Like if there's a nuclear war what what are you coming back to? What's gonna be left? Well, I tell you what we have to do is take acid praise each other And we'll be safe and listen to your music. Yeah. Yeah We were talking about Koresh before we started the podcast. He was out here in Waco and they're all failed rock stars. Like a lot of these guys, they're failed rock stars. Manson. Manson, Koresh, yeah. There's probably a bunch of them that made people.
Starting point is 02:03:36 I mean, Jim Jones kind of looks like he could have been a loudster. Honestly, there's a guitar player named Glenn Schwartz from Cleveland. He was one of our big influences. He played in a cult during the 70s and Yeah, the cult leader was just a failed rock star. He played in a cult. He had one of the first Christian rock bands Ever yeah, the all-saved freak band. They all saved freak band. They actually have some Insane guitar riffs. What's that? Yeah, because Glenn Schwartz is playing guitar They did turn the guy turned out this guy named Glenn Schwartz and he
Starting point is 02:04:07 He became a follower of his and like he was one of the most ripping guitar players. Oh my god They Jimmy Hendrix playing Christian Rock. What's that? They have one song on salvation of the white Hendrix Dude, we used to go see him at this little bar in the flats on in the on the right on the river in Cleveland was lost to a flats on in the on the right on the river in Cleveland was lost to a religious cult we had him open for us a couple times that he would just go on these rants screaming religious rants it was incredible oh wow so he would do the religious rants in between the check out that's what he looks like now he was he passed away a few years ago but he was the original guitar player in the James
Starting point is 02:04:42 gang see look there's Dan and Joe Walsh Yeah, we played with them We flew him down to he was a he was one of Joe Walsh's first influences Joe said the reason he wanted to play rock and roll is because of Glenn And now imagine that because Joe's the guy who gave Jimmy Page the last Paul. You know what I mean? Just like he's also the guy that changed the Eagles He changed a lot of things Changed a lot of things anyway Glenn was amazing Wow
Starting point is 02:05:15 So what was this religious cult? What was it called? I? Don't I don't remember what it was called, but acid definitely played a role. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing about making these things legal. That's the real, when people say that we're propping up the cartel, true. Yes, definitely. And I think you should be able to do whatever you want
Starting point is 02:05:38 as a grown adult. However, if we do make things legal, we're going to lose some folks. Yeah. We're going to lose some folks. Yeah. We're gonna lose some folks. There's gonna be, there's drugs out there that I don't give a fuck if Purdue Pharma is making it. Even if it's pure, like people are gonna die, for sure.
Starting point is 02:05:57 And are we willing to do that? Because there's gonna be a bunch of people that try heroin if heroin becomes legal. I'm not gonna do it. But I'm a 56 year old man. I'm not an 18 year old kid that'd be like, fuck it, I'll try it. With some of this unregulated psychedelic stuff, a friend of mine asked me if I wanted to microdose mushrooms and I said you know of course like this is
Starting point is 02:06:28 small amount and like I was in LA in an Uber driving down sunset and all of a sudden like I realized that it was not a microdose it was like I was like what the fuck how much she was like there's two and a half grams fuck? How much, she was like, there's two and a half grams in the whole bar. And I was like, duh. And it was like two and a half grams in each, like, square, and I had like one and a half. I was like, there's no fucking way.
Starting point is 02:06:56 I can't even read my phone. It looks like, you know, digital. And I like the music, I had to tell the Uber driver to turn the fucking music, change it, because it was just like, I was going into, I could felt like I was inside of a computer. Oh my God. And I was like, we were making our record.
Starting point is 02:07:16 I was like, get me back to the hotel. We were staying at the Chateau Marmont. And we had, this is our first time staying there in like five years, or longer. Because had like tried to turn into a private club And it was kind of close to the public because we're back there for the first time and I'm like fucking tripping my balls off I like just get me back to the fucking room and I'm like, you know be lining up the stairs and the security guy is like He's like, excuse me.
Starting point is 02:07:48 What are you doing here? I was like, I'm staying here. He's like, where's your key? I was like, I don't know. He's like, what's your name? And I like, dude, my alias was. Don't tell your alias. Oh, I'll change it, but it was, it was,
Starting point is 02:08:02 I said, it's Sir Eaton Hog from Spinal Tap. He's like, what's your name? I was like, Eaton Hog. Oh no. He's like, leave the premises immediately. And then I was like, what? He's like, leave the premises immediately. And then finally, like I'm freaking out,
Starting point is 02:08:18 like the general manager comes out like, Mr. Hog, please come to your room. And I was like, you don't know what's happening to me right now. What's going on? What is the guy look like that was questioning you? He looks like a Bond villain. The Hotel Alias always fucks us up.
Starting point is 02:08:38 The Alias, no one's ever calling looking for us. So that's what they tell you. That's one of the big things for people that aren't actually famous. They make you feel better by being, Dan, Pat, you need an alias now. That's like rule number one of like how to make your fucking client feel better.
Starting point is 02:08:55 As a manager. So now all that happens is when we have it, we're just trying to get like into the room. Whenever we lose our key, we're like, no, it's under an alias, we're like, excuse me. And they're like, who the fuck do you think you are? Have a fucking fake name. No one's recognized you ever in this hotel.
Starting point is 02:09:14 Like there's someone actually famous sitting right there, like Susan Sarandon's right here, who the fuck do you think? She's under her real name, by the way. I think it's time to stop the fucking fake name. Yeah, but if you announced that, then you're looking for it. Now you gotta change certain, eat and hog them. I've worn it out, I've worn it out.
Starting point is 02:09:31 I want the attention, I wanna start checking in under like Sean Penn or something. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Sean Penn and Guest. He's done a lot of groundwork over the years. Like you might just, you know, there might just be random ladies calling for you all the time.
Starting point is 02:09:47 That dude is, he's wild. He does some wild shit. Like they're going down to South America or to Mexico and talking to El Chapo. Like what? What are you doing? You're writing for the Rolling Stone. And then El Chapo got thrown in prison. He was in Haiti too, right? Um, was he in Haiti?
Starting point is 02:10:06 Imagine if we found Sean Penn's a problem. And he was in Ukraine too. You see, he wanted to melt the Zoscars to make bullets. It's like Bono and him attracted to, like they need that kind of attention, whatever it is. Well, I think they feel a social responsibility that comes with their fame. It's like guys that want to like save a chick. Our friend Brian calls them Captain Save a Ho.
Starting point is 02:10:29 I've heard that one before. Yeah, that's a good one. There are guys like that. A white knight. I generally think those guys are guys with problems that want to avoid their own problems. And they look at those girls and go, I'm going to fix that. Have you thought about getting into psychiatry? problems and they look at those girls and go, I'm gonna fix that, that's the thing to concentrate on. Have you thought about getting into psychiatry? I think I have.
Starting point is 02:10:49 I'm gonna get a couch. Do you even tell me you think Sean Panabano might have some sort of complex somewhere? Dude, I've got a funny story, dude. One of my best friends was dating this chick. This is in the late 90s. He was totally in love with her. They had several apartments, but he was in New York,
Starting point is 02:11:14 they were in New York, and he was walking to his job and he had to take a shit. So he had a key to his girlfriend's apartment. He pops into her apartment, he's sitting on toilet taking a shit and this is the answer machine goes off and this is you know back then the phone would ring the answer machine would come up and you could hear the person leaving the message. And it was Sean Penn calling his girlfriend being like I had so much fun fucking you this weekend. Oh my god. He's taking the shit.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Oh my god. Oh my god. I had so much fun fucking good this weekend. Not Sean Connery. Not Sean Connery. That would be great if it was Sean Connery. That would be great. It was Sean Connery. Sean Penn. Hilarious.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Dude, imagine if you got that phone call, like, Zolinski called your girlfriend. That was a tough wipe for that guy. Could you imagine that Sean Penn's meeting with El Chapo Hope authorities tracked down the kingpin? Is that, that is what happened, right? Yeah, Sean Penn says no, but there might be documents to say otherwise. But wasn't it something about tracking his cell phone? He was arrested days later. I was trying to read through it to find the proof, but like, that didn't really find actual proof.
Starting point is 02:12:39 I don't know that the actual proof, they're not gonna say like, yep, 100%, this is exactly what we did. I think the more intelligent and crafty of the drug cartel leaders they don't tell you who they are anymore I think you know I think like the guys on the ground know but I don't think there's any El Chapo's out it's like when Gotti was the mafia king yeah you have a bad it's a bad track record to be a celebrity criminal? Yeah. Seems like a horrible idea. The greatest mobsters are the ones they never do the movies about.
Starting point is 02:13:09 Yeah. Or they're clever, like Vitz and the Chingagante, who would wear a bathrobe and walk around like he was a crazy person. And then the FBI installed wires on every hubcap of every car down his route, so they parked their own cars there so they could catch this guy talking. So he would talk like pretend he's crazy. And he would say, listen, this motherfucker, we're gonna kill him once he gets a 50%.
Starting point is 02:13:32 And so he was going over, he was going over his fucking telling his captains what to do. So he had the cover was that he was insane. The cover was that he was nuts. So he would wear a bathrobe and act like a crazy person that's a good cover i think it can get you out of a lot of shit that's what biden's doing pleaded in
Starting point is 02:13:52 sanity to the lake get you out of a lot of shit yeah sure blaming zoloft and cocaine have you heard the craziest one this chick was on a date with this guy she She'd bedate him a little bit They smoked weed and she stabbed him a hundred eight times and
Starting point is 02:14:12 She got off on Look she got probation right something crazy and The idea is that the marijuana caused her to be so psychotic that she stabbed this guy a hundred times Jesus what yeah imagine caused her to be so psychotic that she stabbed this guy a hundred times. Jesus. What? Yeah. Imagine. Okay. The jurors found 30 Brinspecture.
Starting point is 02:14:34 Okay. The police tried to stop her. She will not serve any prison time. The judges ruled. 32 year old from Vitura County, guilty in December of involuntary manslaughter after you stabbed her boyfriend. How's that involuntary? When you stabbed someone 108 times while high on cannabis.
Starting point is 02:14:52 Involuntary. Well, that's incredible. Both took several hits from a bong loaded with marijuana. She had an adverse reaction to the marijuana and suffered from what experts call cannabis-induced psychotic disorder Boy, you don't want to fucking set that president Set that president of me. I mean that just means everyone should carry like an emergency joint in their pocket If they ever get in trouble just fucking she stabbed she also stabbed a dog and tried to knife on herself
Starting point is 02:15:20 I did up accidentally stabbed my friend a hundred and eight times Good thing I have this emergency joint Alibi joint Her dog and she stabbed herself to stop herself in the neck 2018 Thought the story just yeah the story just went around but it happened over six years ago. Hmm interesting What the fuck dude I Mean that seems a little odd the alibi joint
Starting point is 02:15:54 What state was that in California California California's California's amazing there there. That's a lost state And they just keep going down that hole My friend just got back from San Francisco. He's a lost state. And they just keep going down that hole. My friend just got back from San Francisco and he's like, it was insane. He's like, it's you can't believe it's real. Hundred hours. Not even 108. Hundred hours.
Starting point is 02:16:19 That's a Tony Hinchcliffe line. That's like some Tony would say. It's hilarious. Man, we love that kill Tony stuff. It's amazing that he's been. It's hilarious. Man we love that Kill Tony stuff. It's amazing that he's been doing over there. The show's amazing. He does arena shows now. Yeah I know. It's incredible. It's so fun. It's such a fun and it's the anchor of comedy in Austin. It's the anchor of comedy really in the country because it gives people that are like legitimately just starting out. You can become famous on that show.
Starting point is 02:16:45 These guys are all like touring now, like William Montgomery is fucking killing it. Killing it on the road. David Lucas is killing it on the road. These guys are killing it. Casey Rockets, he works at a club. He's awesome. These young guys, they're fucking good man.
Starting point is 02:17:03 And you have one minute on that show, so there's no room for bullshit and virtue signalling, and you know, this is my stance on, shut the fuck up, funny, let's go. So it's like it sets this tone, it doesn't matter what your perspective is, just make it good, make it funny, you got a minute, and then you're gonna get judged and roasted by comedians and they're gonna roast each other and it's just it's a free Like you could say anything. It's fun and everybody wants you to they want you to say anything Yeah, they don't seem it doesn't seem like they're like trying to hurt anybody's feelings not It's fun. They're doing it to each other and laughing hard like when David Lucas and Tony Hinchcliffe roast each other
Starting point is 02:17:44 It's some of the funniest shit I've ever seen in my life. I sometimes I can't breathe because I'm sitting right next to them while they're going after each other And they're both so quick. They're so good at it. Did you catch a poor yeas kill Tony shout out? What do you say you asked about the kill guilty? He's like, I never gonna stop doing them That's not willy Montgomery. No, that's him. No, that's him saying I'm never gonna stop going for it It's kind of the way he said it though. That's interesting. I don't think that's I think he was just saying I'm never gonna stop It seemed very on the move. That's his shit. Yeah, that's his go-to submission as a geek Cuz he almost got Gabi even that he said I'm never gonna stop gonna stop yeah I think we're gonna go do the William William Montgomery podcast fuck yeah, you should do it
Starting point is 02:18:30 He's a fucking national treasure. He's a weird dude. We're gonna get on there We're gonna get on their coattails early and ride him in I want you to be real cognizant when he hugs you when he hugs you You fucking firmly hugs you Odd way like he's thinking of murdering you Confirmly hugs you in an odd way like he's thinking of murdering you He's amazing he's so funny. He does remind me of friends I have from Memphis to Memphis Memphis people talking in a particular way. It's funny Well, have you ever seen when his father and his mother come on the show? I haven't seen that his father and his mother came to see him when they did the theater until the H.E.B. Center and
Starting point is 02:19:04 He was dressed. What was he wearing? He was wearing like a leather strap across his chest leather codpiece Like bare legs bare arms bare chest like he was dressed in some fucking S&M shit and then he did stand up It was amazing. It was amazing. It was amazing. But Kill Tony's, it gives comics an opportunity to get in front of the fucking biggest live show that exists on YouTube. And it sets a great tone. It's a fun thing. It gives people an understanding too. They'll they'll give you good tips too. Like, you know, try to concentrate on this. And how did you write, did you ever try this on your friends? Like, how do you, you know, how do you develop this stuff? Like, how long have you been doing it?
Starting point is 02:19:54 Where'd you start? It's real fast too. It's been a section that's very, you know, accessible. And it's live, you know? People love that kind of shit, where it's just like, it's all improvised, It's happening in the moment It's it's really happening live. Well, we're hoping to go to your club while we're here. Well, you're going man You're going tonight. Let's go. I want you guys to see Shane Shane Gillis is one of the funniest human beings ever lived
Starting point is 02:20:17 See there tonight. Yeah, he's amazing. Yeah, we love we love Shane making trees coming beautiful dogs Yeah, we're funny. We're big fans of him Yeah, he's awesome. He's such a good dude to this shit. He's everything you'd hope he'd be he's like that 24-7 That's like how he is on podcast. That's how he is He's awesome. He he lives here now. Yeah We've always feels like it's like an exciting time for comedy, in a way. It is. It is.
Starting point is 02:20:47 You know, we're kind of leading the charge there, too. Well, we've got a great group that are here now, and everybody really appreciates it. They really appreciate that we're all together in this, and that's what's fun about it. It's like it's a real community. Comedians... We've always been like... We've fangirl out over comedians more than musicians Well, that's the opposite for me too. I fangirl out on musicians
Starting point is 02:21:10 Zero fucking me. I don't know how to do anything. So when I see you guys it's just to me It's magic like you guys are making magic you're making magic. That is like a drug You know like if I'm alone and I'm driving to go to a comedy club and I throw sinister kid on, I get fucking fired up. That's a drug, man. It's a drug. It gives you a feeling. That's just like a drug. You hear a good fucking, oh fuck yeah!
Starting point is 02:21:36 And you're driving, you know? It's like you're experiencing the art physically. It's not just like that painting's beautiful. You know, a good fucking song when you're on the art physically. It's not just like that painting's beautiful. You know, a good fucking song when you're on a treadmill, you're like, whoa, let's fucking go. You'll crank that speed up. You get, you feel different. You guys make magic.
Starting point is 02:21:58 We just sit around, send each other like Norm McDonald clips. That was a one that we saw. There's one where he's talking about gay porn. Have you seen that? What did he say? He just was like, you know, there's these porn. I like, porn's my favorite movie,
Starting point is 02:22:16 but there's this one type of porn. I just can't get into it. Gay porn. It's just everyone. There's not a single good one. It's just everyone's. There's not a single good one. It's just men fucking other men. It's so funny. It's like a minute long, but it's just like, I've watched it like 50 times.
Starting point is 02:22:36 He was doing this thing about guys, fucking guys in the ass. He's like, I'm sorry, I'll clean up my language. I'm sorry for my language. He goes, here's something you never hear anybody say. He may love to be in my ass. He's like, I'm sorry, I'll clean up my language. I'm sorry for my language. He goes, here's something you never hear anybody say. He may love to be in my ass. What a fucking G that guy was. I didn't even tell anybody I had cancer or he was dying. I'm going to go visit someone in Canada incredible move Yeah, said I'm gonna go out my own terms He's amazing. I was randomly on flights sitting next to him twice really just random unbelievable
Starting point is 02:23:15 I knew him I knew him from the clubs. So it was awesome But it's just complete random that we got set sat next to each other twice So two flights. I got a full, like Norm McDonald experience. We're just laughing and talking and laughing. He was amazing. One flight, he was telling me, yeah, quit cigarettes. So I heard fucking, fucking cigarettes are terrible. And he's telling me how great he feels now
Starting point is 02:23:39 that he quit cigarettes, the whole deal. The moment we land, he runs right to the gift shop, buys cigarettes and was lighting it before he got out the door He goes all that talk about cigarettes. I fucking want Amazing he was amazing Just total dumb luck sat next to him twice I've never sat next to a famous person on a plane. I was the thanks dude Well, I didn't know he was he had an alias
Starting point is 02:24:15 Actually Susan Sarandon was on her plane here, but I didn't I was a C-de-way Doesn't count doesn't count Dude, my friend of mine has the craziest story about... He was on a Southwest flight that was like... from LA to Nashville, but it stopped in Phoenix at first, and they picked up this woman who got on the plane, and my friend was on the aisle. This chick was in the middle, and this guy was on the window,
Starting point is 02:24:46 and the guy just starts hitting on this chick, and they start kind of on a flight from, you know, over, like a red eye back to Nashville. Like the guy and the girl just hitting on each other, and then she like, you know, starts like fooling around with him, and like it's asked for a blanket, and then like blows him on the plane. And my friend's just like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:25:11 This is incredible. And then afterwards, he's like, so what do you do? She's like, I'm an actress. I'm like, oh yeah, what kind of movies? She's like, you know, adult movies. And land, he gets her name and she's just broken the AIDS Like oh, yeah, what kind of movies you think you know Dott movies and He gets her name and like she's adjusted like broken the AIDS Being kicked out of the
Starting point is 02:25:36 porn industry blown by her on the plane She's just broke the AIDS protocol. That's yeah. Oh Oh my God. I mean this was years ago. But who was that woman that was married to Antonio Banderas, the famous actress? Melanie Griffith. Melanie Griffith. Melanie Griffith, I was on a plane to England once with her and it was an overnight flight and you know, so she's lying there sleeping. So her, you know, her seats recline, She's lying there sleeping and there's this very fat guy
Starting point is 02:26:07 Who's in the chair right across the aisle so the way it lines up her face is Right where his ass is and this guy starts farting. I mean he started farting to I was awake. I was on my computer I was awake. I was on my computer. I was awake. I was like, what the fuck this guy is farting in the face of a famous actress And I was like imagine if this was this guy's plot all along. That's what I want This is like he's like a fart fetish. He's like you're telling me she's gonna be on this flight I want my seat to line up where my ass is gonna be in her face Like if that's what he was into you couldn't have lined it up any better Dude, she she probably is so resilient to the grossest part
Starting point is 02:26:49 She grew up like in a house surrounded by like a hundred. Yeah, yes tigers. Yes. I Friends with yeah, there's a good idea her getting dragged into the pool But I am that that footage is bananas and that movie that they made that was it called rage Roar roar they made a movie with all these fucking cats I'm friends with the Dakota Johnson her daughter and I've known her for I guess you know before she was famous, you know, I mean and she was told me she told me like Her mom grew up with all these cats and I didn't I mean I did not believe her but I had no idea until I started seeing this
Starting point is 02:27:32 She's lying in bed with a lion I mean a lion for an actual lion Yes, saying that she's probably what she might maybe enjoyed the guys Despite her relief Flashbacks are a time on the farm. Yeah So that was another time I flew a famous person Yeah You know, I got set next Billy Gibbons one time. Oh wow It's fucking awesome. That's fucking awesome. Yeah
Starting point is 02:28:02 Showed me pictures of cars and shit the whole time. It's fucking amazing. I got sat next to Ed O'Neill once. That was pretty awesome. Ed O'Neill from Married with Children. Bundy. Bundy. He's a legitimate Brazilian jujitsu black belt. Really? What?
Starting point is 02:28:18 Yep. He's a real black belt. Yeah, like legit. Everybody I know that's role with him. Legit. And you know, we talked juj-Jitsu for like two hours. That's cool. It was amazing.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Is that what Zuckerberg's into? Yeah, he's into MMA. He does Jiu-Jitsu too though. Jiu-Jitsu is a part of MMA. Have you seen his, has he got the goods? He definitely is training. He definitely knows what he's doing. And he's training with really good people.
Starting point is 02:28:44 Like he was out here training with like top flight Jiu Jitsu people and he you know He's got access to all these people that are interested in training with them trains with UFC people He loves it. He actually blew his ACL out doing it and the boards worried about him like that it could Negatively affect the company him engaging in this very dangerous, violent activity. He competed in Jiu-Jitsu tournaments. Here you see him, he's won. He's good.
Starting point is 02:29:11 Like he's a very smart dude, he's very competitive, and he trains with really good guys. There's Israel Atasanya and Alex Volkanovsky. Yeah, he's into it, man. Like he's legitimately putting in the work. It's exciting, it's into it man like he's legitimately putting in the work It's exciting. It's fun. He's big his bangs always bother me his bangs. Yeah, like the way his hair The crazy girl style Crazy girls. Let me see it again. You see what you're talking about
Starting point is 02:29:41 It needs to go up that's that's an odd look maybe that's like I'm a billionaire I don't want to look too good. I know what it is. It's gonna make me look a little bit little Caesar-ish He's like that. Oh, you know the movies where like the hot girl takes her glasses off, right? I think he needs to get glasses put on him That's what happened to me I can't you can even look at my face, but put the glasses on. It's the opposite for guys. If you're ugly, you put the fucking shit glasses on. Put the glasses on?
Starting point is 02:30:13 Right, it makes you at least look smart. There he goes. There he goes. Now he's looking good. I think you're right. Yeah. I really think you're right. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:30:21 Not those glasses. Not those glasses. The metaglasses. Not the little clear Those are the ones that you could use to spy on people there you go That's a fucking weird new thing you have to be aware of people wearing sunglasses that can film you It's a big one for perverts, I'm sure oh, yeah, you know Pat played with them on stage They sent me a pair
Starting point is 02:30:44 And I was trying to like, but it's just like, if you watch the footage, it's just like, makes you wanna puke. It's insane. Shakin' all over the place. It has a little. It has a mic on it too. It has a mic, sounds like shit.
Starting point is 02:30:55 You can hear him grunting the whole time. Ugh, ugh, ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Yeah, that's something people don't really pick up
Starting point is 02:31:04 unless you got the mic right here He didn't tell me about it either You just put the glasses on side of stage for the encore. That's a layer. I mean that the conversations were ongoing or in your presence I looked at him. I was like The fuck are you doing dude? Am I on camera right now? You knew about it? I mean possibly you didn't Right now you knew about it. I mean possibly you didn't That's also like, you know, there's a lot of times when damn big
Starting point is 02:31:36 No one the fuck I told me this like it's been in the calendar for like two months It's weird because there's not gonna be a time There's gonna be a time rather in the future where you're not gonna be able to stop people from recording things They're just gonna be able to record everything no matter what I mean, um They don't don't already do that they're gonna be able to do it into contact lenses They're gonna be able to figure out a way where it's not even a glass. It's just a contact lens If the if things keep going the way they're going this way, like they keep getting smaller and smaller and more more effective They'll probably figure out a way to make it a contact lens Yeah, it's like people who film
Starting point is 02:32:13 Like concert videos. I mean people film tons of people go back and look at all that shit. They're filming. No, no It's like fireworks. I don't think anybody's ever watched a wedding video Like that people watch who I've had people force me to watch their wedding video. What? What the fuck yeah Watch my baby in a wedding. Oh my god. You only ever see you know what those are made so that if case somebody gets murdered They can use it in forensic files Look how he's looking at the bride. How happy he was seemingly right, right? They Right. That's all they're used for. Well, the worst is fireworks, right? Who watches fireworks videos? But everybody films fireworks.
Starting point is 02:32:55 It's like you feel like you can't live unless you're capturing things constantly. The same people that watch fireworks videos also watch lots of videos of like trains People that watch fireworks videos also watch lots of videos of like trains or fire trucks. Just drive-a-bye. Watch videos of people dining inside of trains. The fact that people still go on trains, trains are a wild way to move around. In Europe it's amazing. Yeah, but it's it's in America There's always the threat that someone could lay some shit down on the tracks
Starting point is 02:33:32 Like people do every now and again There's some person who decides to sabotage the tracks and there's not a fucking chance in hell that you can go over all That track and make sure no one's done that you're going 400 miles an hour whatever it's going it's flying across the country you could with a I guess well that's how they're gonna get us yeah I mean like you see those you know photos of train traveling up until like the fifth early 60s it kind of looks amazing Well, what is great way to see the country the views incredible You're in this thing imagine back in the old days when they would just open up the window and shoot buffaloes Yeah, but it's like you also had like now. It's like I think he's they only serve like hot dogs
Starting point is 02:34:21 You know me probably right I think so You know what I mean? Probably right? I think so. If you're traveling across the country back in the old days, when they first did it, it must have been amazing. Amazing. Imagine if Melanie Griffith was in a sleeper car with that guy on that diet. He's been eating hot fries and hot box for four days. As they have a shower in four days.
Starting point is 02:34:47 And as asses and melamine griffins fit. Just open it up. How fast do those trains go? Like those old timey trains. When they first started crossing the country. I bet they didn't go over 60. They really would just open up the window and shoot bubbles.
Starting point is 02:35:03 Fucking insane. What a crazy time. Like, no one had ever had a train before. Now all of a sudden there's this thing that you can hop on and make your way across that country. Yeah, and like, then the presidents would ride them and just like give some shitty speech off the back. Nobody can hear.
Starting point is 02:35:19 The whole town would come. Is that what they did? The presidents would just get out and talk to people off the back. They wouldn't even get it, they would just stand on the back stand on the back Wow You fucking had that right on the money, bud. Wow Don't say
Starting point is 02:35:37 But what about the really old-timey ones like the ones what was the first ones that they put across the country when the Transcontinental yeah, there's a 1866 it was like right after the Civil War how fast were trains in 1890 they could approach 80 miles an hour that's probably how much stuff is pulling slows it down you know so right the company cars just the locomotive I guess oh I see the locomotives it was a very intense engineering because they can only go up like a steepest is like a 5% grade So that's like oh really? Something like that. That's why my brothers works for Amtrak
Starting point is 02:36:13 But yeah, there's a lot of crazy shit So what do they do when they get to a hill? They just have to let go through a tunnel. Oh Whatever, you know, right that makes sense Wow tunnel. Oh, or whatever. Right. That makes sense. Yeah. Wow. So they have to tunnel everything. Yeah. For these fucking trains. Yeah. And a lot of those railways out early when you know, were built by Chinese. Oh, yeah. So I think you go out West. The first time we went out West on tour, like we go to these small towns, middle of nowhere, you know, and there'd be like an old Chinese restaurant,
Starting point is 02:36:46 and there's like, with signs that say like chop suey, and then you go, you like have the worst Chinese food you've ever had in your whole life. Like tastes like something that really scraped off the teeth of a brontosaurus. Just like ground up cabbage and shit. Yeah, back in those days when they were doing that, so when they developed those opium dens too.
Starting point is 02:37:12 Opium dens was like a big thing that was brought over by the Chinese. That's like around the time that Portland, Oregon was known for people getting Shanghai'd where they would get like, drugged and then, they'd open like a trap door in the bar, and they'd fall down, and then they would get put on a ship to China. What? And wake up like, in the middle of the ocean
Starting point is 02:37:34 and just have to work. What? That's what, yeah. Getting Shanghai'd is that, from that. Holy shit. Yeah. Can you imagine imagine the lawsuit now dude actually that's probably happening still in other countries yeah so many kidnapper tricks them into working for you traditional way to Shang
Starting point is 02:37:57 Hai someone's a drug them and put them on a ship the person wakes up you better get to work this term popped up in the 19th century fuck man. You imagine Living back in the day we had a worry that someone was gonna kidnap you and force you in a slave labor Well, that was like well the 80s we were worried about I was very worried about getting kidnapped When I was a kid Because it was like everywhere all over the fucking news and the milk cartons. Yeah, there's famous kids You know kids defining cartons. Yeah there's famous kids you know kids defining bodies shit. When I was walking to school once some you know somebody's really snowy
Starting point is 02:38:32 and I was I always walked with my buddy but I was on the way to his house and this car pulled up. I was like I'll get you know this person's totally bundled up like so suspicious like I'll give you a ride get in the car. I was like oh They're real I just ran to my buddy's house. I was like Prop maybe it was just some old lady I couldn't tell but just terrifying when I was a kid I was in a library and I was looking at these monster books and This guy stood next to me. He said you like monster books? I said, yeah. And he goes, I've got some out in my car. You want to see him? I'm like, okay. I was like eight. Yeah, you know, I was a latchkey kid.
Starting point is 02:39:12 And so I start walking out the door with this guy and the lady who's a librarian starts screaming Joseph get away from that man. He just got out of jail and the guy just runs, the guy runs, and I'm standing there just crying, like, they got me and got my mom, and I went home, but it was like, what the fuck? Like that, he coulda got me. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:39:37 That was so naive, I was eight. I just thought the guy also liked monster books. What a sick fucking- Dude, we used to play in the woods fucking we used to we used to walk down Through the woods across the river over by the jail Yeah, you know boy over by the jail. You know what I mean the workhouse. Yeah anybody ever get out of jail Yeah, somebody escaped once and his nickname was like the butcher But it was just like, at the time, or maybe it was something like that,
Starting point is 02:40:09 but he had just had his 10th DUI or something. We knew quite a few people in Akron who have over three DUIs. Do you remember that one guy who escaped jail with the help of a female officer that he was banging. And then like she was supposed to meet him. Didn't they make a movie about that? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:30 I think this was fairly recent. Like within the last 10 years. But this guy started banging one of the female corrections officers. And then, I think they remember that. I think she helped him escape. She met him, tried to meet up with them and they arrested her and rested him
Starting point is 02:40:48 She killed herself Yeah, well it was a story. Oh There it is Detectives another little friend that Vicki White had allegedly fallen in love with the inmate given him this special treatment at the jail She ultimately helped concoct the plot for Casey White to escape Which ended 11 days later with his capture and she died from self-inflicted gunshot wound just like the guy who Was the whistleblower for Boeing. I'm confused from oh, yeah, right gunshot wound to why would she kill herself?
Starting point is 02:41:23 Because I she's just she's already knows that she's she fell in love in prison She's she's gonna go to prison with girls girls now Well, there's gonna be a male pretending to be a Hey, maybe Fuck around and maybe what's his name? Marcon's wife is in there. It's president Francis It's probably a women guards Marcon Marcon Marponi Why are those rumors so fun?
Starting point is 02:41:53 They are when the internet goes nutty about stuff. I think it's so hilarious. Yeah, I just love it when someone like says they're gonna like you know Like says they're gonna like, you know Risk their entire career on this piece of evidence I have full faith that this is reality Not one there's no reason for me to do it like But yeah, she came in what's her name? Candidate Jones? Yeah, well then there's the other one,
Starting point is 02:42:26 like the Kate Middleton one, the photo that just got released recently that's been AI doctored. And they say that that photo is a photo that they took from her on a magazine cover. And that it's so specifically accurate that you could superimpose left and right and it looks exactly the same.
Starting point is 02:42:43 And that this photo, people aren't willing to publish it Kate Milton the end of shared reality nothing is true and everything is possible. I saw this so whatever is going on with her They photoshopped CGI'd whatever a photo of her all smiling with her kids like see everything is fine. Because the same thing is going on with her, is the theory? That's the theory, yeah. Yeah, I've heard that. Well, they think she's missing. Oh.
Starting point is 02:43:13 Or no one knows where she is. Like there's like they're like show us a picture of her like no one's seen her forever. Is she okay? Like where is she? Sort of like the president Scientology's wife. Like where is she? I hadn like the president's Scientology's wife. Like, where is she? I hadn't heard that she was missing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:30 Even Photoshop can erase Royals' latest PR blemish. Mother's Day photo is meant to dull speculation about the Princess of Wales' health and did the opposite and threatened to undermine trust in the royal family. How weird did they still have trust in the royal family? That's what's the weirdest thing about that article. Under my, what percentage is their trusting now?
Starting point is 02:43:49 I can imagine a bunch of old people that don't know what's going on anymore. But like what? Imagine, the ancestors of the people that controlled your ancestors. Those are the people you should trust. Yeah. I mean
Starting point is 02:44:13 It's kind of insane and they're just born into it, but I love the British media that's always the bullshit So there's just like there's the rules over there are different, you know Yeah, probably real horrible to be famous person living in England. Oh, they'll go after you. Yeah, they're fucking psycho Yeah, they go after you and they can get away with it. Their laws are so different. To the first article we ever had written about us in England, it was in the NME, it's like a music magazine. Actually, we did the interview at South by Southwest 21 years ago.
Starting point is 02:44:38 And the guy was like, so, you know, asked some boring questions and at the very end of the 10 minute interview, he was like, so do you guys ever do any drugs? And, like, you know, smoke some weed occasionally. And he's like, anything else? And I was like, oh, I smoked opium once. I was like a kid, I didn't know.
Starting point is 02:44:58 And then the headline was like, opium-fueled blues. Seriously. That's amazing. I was like, what the fuck? I was like, my dad's gonna see this. Dad, I don't smoke opium. This kid had it once, so in Akron, like I said, no one really had drugs, but this kid, Eric.
Starting point is 02:45:24 His name was Eric, because like he, I think fried his brain, but he was the only kid I knew that had gone to prison, because he was selling acid and he had been arrested for it and put on probation. And then his probation officer would call him. He worked at the car wash and check on him. And the probation officer called him and said, I'm gonna come see you today. And he had like 150 hits of acid in his pocket. And he never just took it out,
Starting point is 02:46:03 even though he got the heads up. And he was like, oh, he got caught with 150 hits of acid and went to prison for three years. Oh my God. Yeah, it was, in the stories he would tell us were fucking horrible. Exactly what you would imagine. But he introduced us to some, his favorite prison recipe,
Starting point is 02:46:23 which was called Making a Break. And you get a bag of like barbecue potato chips, dump in a can of chili, then dump in ramen noodles and the seasoning, and then get the faucet water as hot as you possibly can, and fill the can up with water, and put it in the potato chip bag, and then just smash it all up with water and put it in the, in the potato chip bag and then just smash it all up with your hands.
Starting point is 02:46:48 Jesus Christ. Dude, this is so disgusting. He would eat this shit out of prison. Wow. Yeah. Dude, just make a break. That's what he used to say. These guys like that exist just to get you
Starting point is 02:47:04 on the right path. Yeah, exactly. You meet him and you go, okay, whatever that guy's doing, I'm not doing that. Yeah, that was a level in your video game. Yeah, well, I think that's what happens with the guys who blow their brains out on acid too. Like, they're there to let you know, like, hey, this is possible. This guy used to be in Pink Floyd. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:22 You know? This is possible. Like, you know, right? This is possible like get you know Be careful. Don't just think you could take it Yeah, or used to be the singer of the Beach Boys. Yeah That's the other weird thing about Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys that he was being threatened by Manson Because he had worked with Manson and they were supposed to like he was supposed to produce his album I think along the way realize this guy's out of his fucking mind. Well, he was hanging out with Dennis Wilson
Starting point is 02:47:50 That's what it was Dennis Wilson, right? I think they had recorded at the studio that we were at that's where they would work in Charles Manson in the Beach Boys Dennis Wilson had a brief and bizarre friendship. Yeah, that's what it was Charles Manson and the Beach Boys Dennis Wilson had a brief and bizarre friendship yeah that's what it was summer of 1968 living together and dreaming about the musical possibilities that lay ahead they live together. I think Manson wanted Brian Wilson to like produce this stuff. And then when he didn't want to that's that's when they it fell apart so he probably lured them in with parties and the girls That's probably what he would do He'd probably have the Manson girls and everyone's doing acid and they're probably like kissing him and kissing each other
Starting point is 02:48:32 And he's like this is amazing this guy's cool And this is pre murders too, so no one really knows exactly what this guy's up to Do you think Epstein was giving people acid too? Maybe he's giving the girls acid. Maybe he's giving the guys acid too. Who knows what's giving them? I mean, if you're gonna have an island and you're gonna film people,
Starting point is 02:48:59 why would you let them just be sober? That seems like that would cut down on your footage. You know? Wouldn't you dose them up with something? If I was the CIA? What's going on with that island now? I tried to buy it. No.
Starting point is 02:49:16 What's up with it? I was thinking about it. We were joking around having a podcast destination. I was like, we'd have to level that place. There's the microphones and camera. You probably, shit we've never even thought of. Like there's probably like camera paint. It's on the wall.
Starting point is 02:49:29 The wall's probably a giant LCD screen. Dude, what's up with that Egyptian themed building? It's wild. The temple that is painted like the Israeli flag. The colors of the Israeli flag. Yeah, it's weird. That's where I was thinking like we could put the podcast studio there. I think that's a good idea.
Starting point is 02:49:49 It's somebody bought it. Somebody bought it. It was too much. It was like 50 million bucks. Who bought it? I don't know. Some psycho. A fan.
Starting point is 02:49:59 You know, like when you write to serial killers. Did someone bought the cabin that? Kazinsky lives in? Yeah yeah, really I think so I mean that you could buy the acre of land that he owned at one point for like 60,000 bucks Wow cheaper It was cheap with the cabin on it. I don't know if the cabin was there They might have leveled that cabin it was weird cuz he just had this one like acre or two in the middle of fucking nowhere Yeah, like it must have been, he must have got it for nothing.
Starting point is 02:50:28 He was a fucking odd dude too. I wonder what he was, what was he eating up in that cabin? He's probably making breaks dude. Ha ha ha ha. Maybe he's like, he went crazy from like. Sodium. Too much sodium interacting with the LSD residue.
Starting point is 02:50:46 It's funny because he's the prototypical guy, the loner in the woods that everyone's afraid of. Like what's worst case scenario, loner in the woods, a genius who's trying to kill everybody. Everybody who made technology, and this was his idea that technology was going to take over the chain of race. Yeah, it's supervillain. It's a movie character. But meanwhile, he's kind of correct
Starting point is 02:51:07 Yeah, he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong about technology taking over the human race. Yeah, this is all pre cell phones, right? This is pre at least smartphones. When was Kaczynski? When was all that? I think it started in the early 90s Yeah, so this is Cell phones just existed in like suitcase form back then, right? Maybe you get a star attack. So wait, how long was he living in the woods before he started sending the pipe bombs? Was he up there since like then, since like 1970? I think it was his plan once he left teaching. His plan was to make enough money teaching so that he could go
Starting point is 02:51:45 to the woods and do this. Well, I think he didn't leave teaching almost immediately after working at Berkeley for like just a year or something? I don't know. I don't know how long he was there for, but what they said was that was where he had gotten the money. According to his Wikipedia, he lived at home for two years after resigning and then moved Mmm to the remote cabin in Montana So you probably do them during those two years you probably formulated his life's plan
Starting point is 02:52:12 Live a simple life with little money without electricity or running water working odd jobs receiving significant financial support from his family 75 So that was quite a few years ago from his family. So that was quite a few years later. He performed acts of sabotage including arson and boobig trapping against developments near his cabin. So he started with that. He also dedicated himself to reading about sociology and political philosophy, including the works of Jacques Elul, Kaczynski's brother, David Lader Elul's book the technological society became Ted's Bible Kaczynski recounted in 1998 when I read the book for the first time I was delighted because I thought here is someone who is saying what I've already been thinking
Starting point is 02:53:00 Interesting Interesting Since storage I was trying to find out who bought it He lived in that dude we should sell kits love that for on Amazon Get a mini version of it why not use that stock photo. Yeah, it's a tribute. Yeah, make it out of plastic kids can play in it Kids play house slash Univom working. Fuck, man. That's the guy that everyone's afraid of.
Starting point is 02:53:31 That's when people say, yeah, I'm a loner. Like, you bitch, you're not a loner. Real loners are fucking crazy. That's a real loner. That's a broken person. Wow. Do you think they purposely picked the genius to do that too? Well, I think that's what they had to work with. They're at Harvard. Yeah, you
Starting point is 02:53:51 know, we probably have quite a few geniuses and he was probably already super odd because of that thing that happened to him when he was a baby. Right, he's probably already a sociopath. Yeah, we can it's okay to keep fucking with this guy. One of the things his brother said they're like if he asked a girl out The girl rejected him. He would write horrible letters to her just horrible vicious mean shit He would yell at them and stuff. It's like he was just off the rails He was crazy before all that well, and then they dose him up with acid and humiliate they probably like this guy's perfect He's already out of his fucking mind. Let's see what we could do to him and they turned him into a serial killer
Starting point is 02:54:28 Maybe it wasn't even like a you know like a CIA program maybe the guy's just bored and just like to fuck with people Kazinsky like like I'm talking about the CIA. Oh, maybe it's like look at this fucking nerd Well, I think they had free will to do whatever they wanted back then when the CIA was operating doing that MK ultra. Yeah, all those experiments and Operation midnight climax when they were doing all that stuff. They were just they were allowed to do whatever they wanted
Starting point is 02:55:04 They could just run tests., they operated a brothel. They operated a brothel when they dosed the Johns up and observed the reactions. That's the Midnight, what is it called? Midnight Climax, yeah. They also ran Hate Ashbury Free Clinic. They ran it until the book Chaos came out. Then they closed it down.
Starting point is 02:55:25 They ran it forever. They ran a free clinic. And Manson used to visit it. That's insane dude. It's insane. When you find out what they actually 100% did and you realize that nothing, things just get better. They don't just stop. Like if you're really good at being a secretive organization that has massive control over people and you can experiment on folks, that doesn't just go away. That just evolves.
Starting point is 02:55:57 It just gets better. Gets better at what it's doing and hides its tracks a little bit more. Learns from its mistakes and gets better yes it's like that i mean you know so many conspiracy theories and i think they're all a lot of them you know are rooted in reality in truth
Starting point is 02:56:17 but there's like constantly reading the news scene something that's been what the fuck is actually going on with this thing here? You know, and like, it's funny how much shit that like John Stewart got for like, you know, just pointing out coronavirus, you know, coming from so close to the coronavirus research facility. And then they like, basically, you know, like, I don't know, man. And now that's accepted as fact. What about I just was reading about Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law
Starting point is 02:56:48 Who died in Texas in February 11th, although it's just now in the news She died in a Tesla That she drowned in her Tesla Tesla on her ranch in a pond And she's a she's like a billionaire. And I was like, just seems really good. Yeah, the Tesla backed into the pond or something. She did a three point turn into the pond.
Starting point is 02:57:17 But that just seems really sketchy. Well, the thing about any kind of electronic device is that that is a computer. Someone can operate that computer. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's impossible to make a computer that can't be hacked. I think if you've got a thing, they already
Starting point is 02:57:42 know how to make your keys. Oh, dude, her Tesla ran off of a nine-inch floppy disk. Yeah! So it's just fine. You know, they know how to make your keys now. They have a scanner they can use outside your home, and they can pick up on your key fob. Like, if you have a little thing of keys next to the,
Starting point is 02:57:57 and they can get the signal off of that and use it to make a new key fob, or use that signal to operate your car. And then they just start your car up and drive it off. I mean if you have a computer that was always the big theory about Michael Hastings to use that journalist that reported on that general was talking shit about Obama and then he got fired during the Iraq war.
Starting point is 02:58:19 Do you know that story? Yeah. The third the theory was always on him that they controlled his car. He died by going 120 miles an hour down La Brea right into a tree and his car exploded. And then the question back then was, is it possible to control someone's car? And they're like, yeah. He can, all the people that understand the technology
Starting point is 02:58:40 that existed in 2004 when this guy died, they're like, yeah, you could do that 2004 you drive an electronic yep drove one here 2010 yeah, I drove one here. Oh 2004 was the tic-tac That was the question about the tic-tac if that is ours. How the fuck could they do that in 2004? That doesn't seem possible. No, you couldn't even play like a video game online. Yeah, you could.
Starting point is 02:59:09 Not really. Oh yeah, 2004 you could play pretty good. If you had a good cable connection. Well maybe an LA, not an Akron. You couldn't? I played guys, I used to play Quake in the late 90s and you could play online. Maybe it just had shitty internet.
Starting point is 02:59:25 You could get good internet back then. They had cable. People had cable. But if you had dial-up, that sucked. You definitely couldn't play on dial-up. No, we had cable, but... Yeah. Do you have cable internet?
Starting point is 02:59:35 No, we did. I just remember trying to play Call of Duty online, it would not really work. It could be a bunch of things. You could have had a shit connection. But there's a lot of people playing video games online at 2004 But the that thing whatever the fuck that tic-tac thing was it's the speed that it moved at it doesn't make any sense Yeah, changing directions and the fact they have so many different people that saw it and they got video footage of it and The guy who I interviewed David Fravor the guy who who was the pilot who came out and talked about it, he's not a loon at all.
Starting point is 03:00:07 He's just a rock solid pilot who, you know, with everything else, he's 100% by the book. He talks like a jet fighter pilot. They're all like super disciplined guys. Like, they don't fuck around. And so when he's telling you about this thing, he's also not fucking around He's explaining to you in terms of what the instrument panel was showing him that the they had locked onto it
Starting point is 03:00:32 This thing was jamming their radar signals Like whatever it was do that that's what led them to be alarmed because that's that's technically I think that's an act of war I think you're not allowed to jam radar signals from another another vehicle Whatever the fuck this thing was Also flew at some insane rate of speed right to their cat point Which is where they were supposed to meet up like the thing knew we were supposed to meet up like see a haha Pion took off so that could be that aliens knew it They read their instrument knew it or it could be that we knew it humans people knew it because this this is theirs they flew this fucking thing around
Starting point is 03:01:09 they wanted to see what people how people's reaction would be to it if they saw it out there they probably let these fighter pilots experience it what what year did they did they government acknowledge area 51 they didn't I don't think they did that until the Obama administration. Right. I think the story was that they had to expand the boundaries because too many people were camping out and like using like high-power telescopes and shit and viewing it and using like high-power lenses and filming these test flights of different things they're working on.
Starting point is 03:01:42 But yeah, you know in the 80s These test flights of different things they're working on. But yeah, you know in the 80s I You know when I was like eight nine I would get books out of the lot library about like area 51 Yes, I mean there was like that was like a pretty well-known conspiracy theory turned out to be Yeah, real CIA acknowledges its mysterious area 51 2013 right wow tell site for the first time like 25 30 years after people started talking about it yeah people were talking about a long time oh yeah it was always in UFO folklore that that's where they had to crash discs and then the Bob Lazar thing that was in like 89
Starting point is 03:02:20 when he came out and said he worked there, right? Which is still today my favorite one. That's the one I want to be real. Yeah, it's all the ones I want to be real The Bobo's our story. It's number one on the list Yeah, I mean that is a guy is he still alive. Yep Yeah, he runs United Nuclear. It's like a some sort of research company. They sell chemicals and shit. He does a bunch of different things. But while he was filming the documentary about him, he got raided by the FBI. The FBI raided it because apparently they think that he might have a sample of this element that's used to power the spaceship, because he was
Starting point is 03:03:06 working on the propulsion system. That was what his job was to back engineer whatever this thing was. He said this thing revolved. It was about this reactor that they had in the center of the craft that used this element called 115, which is a new element, and that if you bombard this element with radiation, it does something to distort gravity. And so they had this thing in the center of the craft, and they knew it worked, but they didn't know how it worked. And so they were trying to get these scientists, and they bring in new scientists, like let's try some
Starting point is 03:03:42 new guys. Let's try this guy. And so they get this dude who was a young crazy person who was working at a Los Alamos labs. He put a fucking jet engine in a Honda. And he was a maniac. And they got this guy and they flew him out and they said, here it is. Tell us what it is. And he's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 03:04:01 And when he first saw it, his reaction was, oh, this is ours that's why people keep seeing these flying saucers even had a like an American flag sticker on it he's like oh this is ours that makes sense well now okay and then he realized along the way no no no no no this is impossible it doesn't have any seams it's like it's 3d printed and it's designed for tiny people like something that's like three feet tall it doesn't have any seams. It's like it's 3d printed and it's designed for tiny people like something It's like three feet tall. It doesn't have any controls, but somehow another works Somehow another moves and they can lift it up and they could do stuff with it. What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 03:04:35 Yeah, so supposedly he when he took off He got a piece of this 115 when they fired him the reason they fired him. Do you know that story? No, it's nuts His wife was having an affair all right because he couldn't tell her that he was working area 51 So she assumed he's fucking around all their phones are tapped everything's tapped because if you have that kind of top-secret clearance They have to be able to listen all your phone calls. So while he's flying. It's 11 p.m. They're calling me to work what What? And he has to get on a plane. He can't tell her where he's going. She's like, fuck this marriage. And so she starts banging her instructor, like a flight instructor. And so they don't tell him that
Starting point is 03:05:15 this is why he's getting fired, but the emotional turmoil in his life, because his wife is clearly having a affair with him, he can't have top secret clearance anymore. So now he has to go back. So now he's like, what the fuck happened? So he takes his friends, he takes twice, he takes his friends, he's like on Wednesday night they pilot these fucking things, I'm going to take you out and I'm going to show you this. So you know I'm not fucking crazy. And they all observe these things hovering and moving around and then he gets arrested, he gets caught doing it. And so then he's like, I got to go public. And so then he gets ahold of George Knapp and he tells George Knapp his whole story. And he's like I gotta go public and so then he gets a hold of George Knapp
Starting point is 03:05:45 He tells George Knapp his whole story and he's like I was working at this place and they're back engineering spaceships from another fucking planet It's not it's that the same story exactly for 30 whatever years. It's fucking bananas I want to use with him or amazing. I wanted to be true so bad. I did too. It's a problem though, right? Because, well you've seen something though. Nothing like that, but yeah, it was something. It was something.
Starting point is 03:06:18 But it wasn't, I didn't see something that was like so mind-blowingly. I mean, it seems like it was be totally plausible that what I saw existed. It just was quiet. That was the only thing that was odd about it. That's odd though. Something can move in the sky that's quiet.
Starting point is 03:06:37 It doesn't make any sense. Zero sound. That doesn't make any sense, especially if it's close enough for you to see it. It doesn't make any sense. Also the way they move, like what can move like that other than a drone? Drones move like that, but powered by what? That's what the, I think the Bob Lazar stuff that he's talking about, I think that's a propulsion system that they've been working on forever.
Starting point is 03:06:59 They theorized the idea of some sort of a gravity propulsion system, something that does something to gravity that allows it to move through things very quickly. They thought about that in the 1950s that was theorized. Yeah, I mean, I say the only way that you could actually traverse the universe is by skipping through different dimensions. Right, so with that type of engine that's manipulating gravity, people do something like that. The idea behind it, the way he described it,
Starting point is 03:07:36 Lazar described it, is if you thought of space as like your mattress, like a really soft cushy mattress, and you drop like a giant lead ball in the middle of that mattress and everything would just go it would just get sucked in he goes that's what it's doing it's a very simplified version of what it's doing but it's doing something to the gravity that allows it to move in a way that we don't understand yet we're're just, but this thing, this element 115, it was just completely theoretical until there was a large,
Starting point is 03:08:08 one of the particle colliders detected it. They detected it for just like a very brief moment when they do those things. And they said, okay, it's a real element. And what Bob Lazar is saying is that this element is a stable element that these beings have. And when they use this stable element.
Starting point is 03:08:26 So, we can imagine a world where the properties are very different than ours, and they might have this element. It might be just a natural part of their environment for some reason. Or just some isotope. Yeah. Or they've developed it. Maybe the one that they detected with a collider, maybe they figured out how to make it.
Starting point is 03:08:46 What we have to do is go back to the 40s to get those smart people to figure this out. The people that didn't have calculators. The pre-Bath salt people. Well, those guys, if you watch Oppenheimer, I guess that's how those guys are rolling. They were kind of rock star scientists Right, they were rock star scientists, and I don't think I think those are the kind of guys They wind up doing rock star type scientist shit. What's I'm saying those guys aren't around anymore before there were rock stars There were people signing their bowling promo photos That's what was going on then
Starting point is 03:09:24 Rock and roll came out and the bowlers were like what the fuck Prior to the bowlers. I guess it was the scientists Well, there was just a limited amount of shit you could watch on TV back then so if you put folding on people like I'll watch Yeah Right and like kids would like worship like cowboy character and that was a bowler. It was a Yeah I do think it might be the bowling was so popular because it's even though you couldn't as we determined You can't see sports on television prior to like 1995 you could probably
Starting point is 03:10:04 determined you can't see sports on television prior to like 1995 you could probably Bullying's the least confusing thing you could probably watch on that's true. It's a static Just the person's throwing the ball. I have to just watch one little thing go towards There's no other players. These have pool on TV back then. It was a big deal They'd have like Willie Mosco and he matches They would play him on ABC. That would get confusing Well, I guess that you could see the colors of the ball. Yeah, you can never see the numbers also the but the the announcer was always describing what's happening That's what we should go. We should pitch a radio
Starting point is 03:10:44 I'm just thinking about my dad listening to baseball games on the radio, but I'm just thinking about how fucking excruciating it would be to have someone radio broadcasting in a pool match. Like, that's the kind of shit that Kaczynski was into. What would be better radio broadcasting that or radio broadcasting bowling? I think bowling would probably be better. You'd have the excitement of like the pins breaking and right you would hear it and also you can be like okay that he's he's got two pins left.
Starting point is 03:11:19 Right. It would be clear. Yeah. You get it in your head. If you're trying to lay out of a pool table You're like, where's the five ball? Yeah What are you saying so the center of the two pockets? Closer to the left side of the right side. Okay in relationship to the sixth ball. Where's the sixth ball?
Starting point is 03:11:36 Is that the end rail? This is like some Abbott and Castello stuff. I could see that I could see that Good skit actually it would be impossible the most confusing sport to Describe over radio. Yeah, you're playing 15 balls on the table Yeah, they probably couldn't have existed without television. It's probably once people started looking at it, they're like, wow, this is crazy. What the kids are playing now, though, video games, it's probably really difficult to get kids bowling today. Video games are so insane.
Starting point is 03:12:22 Yeah, they're nuts. I'm glad they weren't around like that when I was a kid. Yeah, I kind of stopped playing them. Unless my younger brother comes and visits me, but also kids are so good at them now. Oh yeah. But I also think, you know, I think that's, you know, I can definitely tell my brain slowing down.
Starting point is 03:12:48 Like, you know when you're talking, like I'm talking to my, how fast kids process shit? Yeah. Oh my God, dude. I'm like, I'll say something and by the time, I don't know, my two year old can just like, is like at least five times faster at understanding something than me.
Starting point is 03:13:05 Do you feel this? Yeah, they're not tired. They also don't have mortgages. Yeah. Like there's a lot of shit going on. No, but their brains are just hyper fast. Yeah, hyper fast and then no responsibilities and no stress and they're being taken care of.
Starting point is 03:13:18 So they're more relaxed. So the resolutions, like that's why years used to feel fucking forever when you're a kid. Right. Because your resolution is so high. You're getting every single thing. And as you get older, you're getting two frames a minute. Well also, years used to feel so long because you only had lived five of them.
Starting point is 03:13:39 It was crazy. Another year, it's not like Jesus Christ is going by so fast. I can't believe I'm seven. But I do think there's an evolutionary thing right your brain just because you got to learn so much in those first like Seven years of your life you got to go from like not even You know understanding how to choose something to like do math and running in run and like you gotta learn sports You gotta make learn to make fun of the certain kid and not the other kid, but man if you could pick up a guitar at five Holy shit. If you were really dedicated
Starting point is 03:14:12 Imagine all those extra years of learning like a musical instrument. I mean, I will say it seems like any child prodigy musician makes shitty music that seems to be a Thing that I noticed. That's what I'm always talking about. I'm always like, who the fuck is letting Doogie Hauser be their doctor? Like, that's what doesn't fucking make sense.
Starting point is 03:14:37 It's cool that kids smart enough to become a doctor at 11 but no fucking grown person would be like, yeah my doctor's an 11 year old child Doogie Houser MD. That's my doctor. I've selected him Like dude, you know who's fucking selecting that guy the dude that tried to fucking show you the fucking monster books probably yeah, he's getting pedowed He's getting reverse Pitoed Should we end with that
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