The Joe Rogan Experience - #2120 - That Mexican OT

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

That Mexican OT is a Billboard Hot 100 charting rapper originally hailing from Bay City, Texas. His new mixtape, "Texas Technician," is available now. www.thatmexicanot.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Tell me the story of the day with the seven wolves. Yeah, well seven coyotes. I think it was nine coyotes. Damn. That's a crazy story. I feel like I'm looking at you on my phone right now. It's crazy. Are we rolling? Yeah.

That's hilarious. Yeah, it's weird when you meet people when you see them. Me too with you. I've only seen you on YouTube. I've seen you on my phone. Right? It's cool, man. It's a pleasure, bro.

Pleasure to meet you too, man. Bro, you're like, you're a bad motherfucker, bro. First of all, to me, my dad was like my god, you know what I'm saying? So to see him glorify you and stroke your ego, bro, it's just cool. Oh, that's cool. of all like to me my dad was like my god, you know I'm saying so to see him glorify You and stroke your ego bro. It's just it's cool. That's cool. I'd like to meet your dad. Yeah, you just met him Oh, that was your dad. Yeah, the swole man skin and oh no shit. Oh, that's cool as fuck. Yeah, that's awesome, man That's awesome. Beautiful. Yeah looks good. Yeah, my whole life. He's been like that It was good. I remember I'd get in trouble and he would punish me with workouts Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh wow. I've been fit my whole life. I started getting fat when I touched that rapper money

Really it's hard right? Yeah, I'd go out to eat and I was like it cuz I'm already indecisive So like I go out to eat and order like five things and just eat small off each plate Well, it's a problem when you first start getting money, right? Yeah, yeah indulgent. Yeah, I'm chilling now though, you know what I'm saying? But definitely at first it was like... When I was 25, I got a development deal and I was spending so much money my manager called me up. He thought I had a gambling problem. He was like, do you have a gambling problem?

I'm like, no, I'm eating steak and lobster every night. I was just going to say, bro, like it goes to food, right? I feel like, because I ain't bought jewelry or nothing like that Nothing I seen the grill I mean yeah, but like I had it I had a grill before I was anybody and and then and in my second grill Paul Wall gave to me. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so Paul walls the man. Yeah, shut out the Paul Wallachian It was just his birthday a few days ago to oh, yeah? That dude, he looks like a real estate agent. With the combo?

Yeah, when he's got this crazy grill. Yeah, nah, he's cool as shit though. He's cool as shit. He's a nice person. I was smoking with him and I handed him the joint and he was like, thank you. I was like, you're telling me thank you for it. You're next in rotation, you know?

But he's just a sweet dude, you know? That's nice. Yeah, it's cool. I've seen him in interviews. I love to talk to that dude. I've seen him in interviews. He always seems cool as fuck. Yeah. He's real happy. If you're down, I'd love to connect you up. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, it's cool. I've seen him in interviews. I love to talk to that dude. I've seen him in interviews. He always seems cool as fuck. Yeah, I'm real happy.

If you're down, I'd love to connect y'all. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, for sure. Let's do it. Let's dial Paul, man. I found out about you from Tony Hinchcliffe. My friend Tony Hinchcliffe. He's like, yo, you gotta listen to this.

And he puts it on, he's a comedian. Okay, see. And he put it on in the green room of the mothership. He put Cowboy Killer. I was like, oh shit, this is good, man. Now it's in our Spotify rotation. Thank you so much. Cowboy Killer was a was like, oh shit, this is good, man. Now it's in our Spotify rotation. Thank you so much. Cowboy Killer was a fun one to write.

I remember as in Wiz Columbia, my buddy Nate was like, he was like, just do something different. He was like, make a country song. And I just played like a country rap beat and from there it just went crazy. Yeah, dude, we find ourselves walking around the green room sometimes going, lately I've been fucking I mean at the rodeo they went stupid. Oh, yeah That's that's one that's one of the ones like they go crazy for when I perform

If I feel like maybe just cuz like it's easier to sing along to yeah a lot of my stuff like they don't even understand What I'm saying, they just sound good. Right, right, right, you know, yeah No, that one's a good one to sing along to. It's also, it's just fun. Yeah, definitely. You know, it's a fun song. You're having a good fucking time. Definitely, man. And I'm glad you said that because like that's what I try to give out. Like this next project I'm working on, I want to call it Recess and I want to call it Recess because like at this point, bro, like I don't have walls, I don't have boundaries, you know what I'm saying? I don't have an ego that's holding me down to one sound or anything like that.

This is recess to me, so therefore, I can go to the monkey bars and dominate. Then I can go to the jungle gym, and then I can go to the swings and have fun everywhere. So it sounds like I'm having fun. That's great. Yeah, it's a blessing, bro. Man, I would've never thought I'd be here.

I thank God every day, bro, because I used to be on acid laid out in the middle of the street, and I wasn't doing acid the way y'all do acid. I feel like some people do drugs, and they do it to better, to learn. I was strictly abusing this shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just wanted to be fucking thick in the dirt high. You know?

And it's just beautiful, bro. I tell people all the time, y'all don't even, like y'all, God's gonna have an amazing talk with y'all, cause like, y'all don't even understand. Y'all saved somebody's life and you don't even know it, cause it's just pure enjoyment to you. But bro, like, God watches that, man.

And I promise all my fans, God gonna have a good talk with them, cause they spoil me. You know what I'm saying? They make me feel good, bro. I love my fans, dog. Like, they pay attention to the smallest shit ever. You know, I was in California.

I did a show in LA, and this girl brought a shirt, and she had a mural of my mama's headstone on it. It said, you know, when she passed, her birthday, her name, my name, my little brother's name. And I was like, damn, like, this shit's just cool, bro. You know, cause my mother gave me my first rap name, my name, my little brother's name. And I was like, damn, like, shit's just cool, bro. You know, because my mother gave me my first rap name, V-Man. And I've been rapping since I was four years old. You know what I'm saying?

So like, it's just cool. Like my mama was a gangster. I was talking to Fat Boy a few days ago in Bay City, and Fat Boy, you know, he's like, oh my God, Virgil, I love you. So me and Sophie, we was best friends. He was like, yo mama taught me how to cook hard. Just going on and on. Mama was walking around basically like, where my money at?

We're just savage, we're just more short. She was a little pocket rocket. Short with so much power. And she was beautiful, man. Everybody loved her. I feel like it was hard with the family with her, you know what I'm saying? Like I grew up watching my mother and her mother

fist fighting in the living room, you know? Oh wow. Yeah, but, that's why sometimes when people be like, oh yeah, this for Sophie, or Sophie this, or Sophie that, and I'm like, man, none of you motherfuckers, like all y'all traded her. All y'all turned y'alls back on her. There was some people that like, oh yeah, this for Sophie or Sophie this or Sophie that. And I'm like, man, none of you motherfuckers, like all y'all traded her. All y'all turned y'alls back on her.

There were some people that were supposed to fight for me in court when my mother died because they knew, but they didn't, like, you know what I'm saying? Like they backed out, you know what I'm saying? Fight for you in court? Like how? So when my mother passed away, my mama was already planning on giving me to my nanny, which is my dad's mother, and the reason why she was gonna give me to her

is because he was getting out of prison. And my mama was gangster, cooking crack and selling this shit. I'm like, people fucked up in our house, you know what I'm saying? So she knew she was already fucking up and probably finna go to jail. And I was just bad, I was a badass little kid.

I was in first grade, not coming home till 10 o'clock at night already. And she would just be, I was a badass little kid. I was in first grade and I'd come home until 10 o'clock at night already. And she would just be, I remember her crying and she'd just be like, I can't take care of her, Miss Irma, I don't know what to do with them, all this and that. And some of my people knew that was on my mother's side, they knew about this.

And they knew that she wanted to give me to Irma, they knew all this and they knew that Sophie didn't want me to be with my mama's side because it really wasn't too much guidance. and they knew that she wanted to give me the Irma. They knew all this, and they knew that Sophie didn't want me to be with my mama's side because it really wasn't too much guidance. She knew that I would almost be fucked over there. Not saying that they don't love me because they definitely love me.

It's just they just weren't heavy-handed on the rules and shit. You know what I'm saying? How old were you at the time? When my mama passed? Yeah. I was eight. And, but I was already grown, you know what I'm saying?

I was already grown. So when I hear those people, oh yeah, so it is and that, I'm like, man, fuck you. You know what I'm saying? Because y'all left my mama out there dry, for real. Like everybody in my family left my mama dry like that. She was close with Sabrina, my dear Sabrina. I know that for sure, but that's because

we all lived together. You know what I'm saying? I know my dear Sabrina and my cousin Homer too. My cousin Homer was close with my mama. I never seen my mother respect any other woman except for my nanny and maybe my step-mama. My mama used to take me to my stepmama. We would meet halfway and my stepmama would take me

to go see my dad in prison. And I used to be rapping through him through a glass on the phone. Really? Yeah. I used to be rapping on the radio and he'd be like, fuck that radio. I want to hear what you got to say.

Wow. I'd be doing my pushups, my sit ups. Dad, look at me, check me out. I hit the Jumperjacks all this and that. I'd knuckle him and we would twist it. He would say, lock it up. He'd get him dappin'. He'd say, push-ups, my sit-ups. Dad, look at me, check me out. I'd hit jumping jacks all this and that. I'd knuckle him and we would twist it. He would say, lock it up. He'd get him dappin', he'd say, lock it up. I was just tellin' Fee, every time I'd go visit him,

he would always ask for a Sprite and some Kit Kats. I used to go to get the coins and take them to the guards. I'd be like, man, that's all I got, but let me take my daddy home. He did a long time. He did about six years in there. He learned a lot, he taught me all the time that prison taught him how to be a political person, you know, and a politician.

And also, you know, cause like, you can't, you have to follow other rules in there now Like let's say like you got like let's say me you got problems I gotta go to whoever your leader is or somebody what's going on in your situation and be like say But I can't just go over there because I'm gonna start like a race war or some shit You know I'm saying like every everything has a reaction You know and you just you just got to have permission from your hires I don't know too much about you know saying that I ain't ever been to prison and things like that,

but you know what I'm saying? I know a little bit from what just being around. That's a crazy statement when you're eight year old, you were grown. Yeah, I was already grown. Like I looked at a picture, I seen a picture of me holding this basketball when I was a kid.

And I remember holding this basketball, it glued in the dark. And I remember like playing with it. I remember being with it, holding it, and like just seeing it around the house. And I remember playing with it, I remember being with it, holding it, and just seeing it around the house. And I look at a picture of myself holding it, and I was like, damn! I look like I was a child, not even a kid, like a baby still.

And I was already feeling, I was already looking at my teachers like, bitch, I don't know what fucking is, but I will fuck you. You know what I'm saying? For real. Like I was already watching like Hustle and Flow, Scarface, you know?

Cause my parents were still kids. You know what I'm saying? So like, I just got to be a kid with them. How old was your mom when you were born? I think she was like 18. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happens.

Yup, yup, yup. I remember watching Scarface all the time with my mama and every single time before she died She'd be like Tony turn around Tony like this gonna change something. But yeah, she I remember that was a movie that made her cry Really? Yeah. Wow. She's rooting for Scarface. Yeah, she cried when Tony died. She was fucked up about this shit. That's hilarious Mm-hmm. She cried when Tony died. I remember it was me, SB, Quincy, and I feel like Romeo was definitely there because he was living with us. And Keelin might have been alive.

Yeah, he was because Joseph was definitely alive. These are all my cousins. I never needed friends because I always had siblings. And I was the oldest of all of them. So, man, I'm making a palette. I got all of us sleeping in the living room together. And, you know, like I said, my parents were still kids, so they out doing kid stuff at the club,

partying and all this and that. So while they're doing that, I'm playing Scarface and all this other shit, you know? But I remember we were sleeping in bed one time, and my mother comes in and she wake Espy up. Espy, we whooped those bitches ass, all this and that. We got them, we got them. Like my mama just got into a bar fight with somebody

and came home talking about, yeah, we whooped them bitches ass. I remember smelling the cold night on her. Does that make sense? A cold night. Like you ever, like it's cold at night and then you're inside and then somebody come in and it's like you can feel the cold on them

and like smelling and shit. Like I don't know how to explain it. I just felt the cold come off of her body and I smelled her and I always knew she was around because I heard high heels. Like when she would pick me up from daycare, I always knew it was my mama because she the only one coming in high heels.

You know? And yeah, my mama, she was just crazy. Her name was Sophia Gasca. Sophia Ann Gasca. Wow. What a crazy way to grow up. Yeah, I mean, look, it's definitely worse. You know what I'm saying? It's not even crazy.

It's just, we was just living. I remember I wasn't even sitting in car seats. My mother would be driving, holding my little baby brother, and I'd be standing in the passenger seat with my arm on the seat like this you know yeah Just living like you know this is wild yeah That's a good way to develop a rapper correct My mama so boys would come around and they'd be like you know I'm saying my mama would always tell him Sophie I'm gonna be my son gonna be a rapper. You know they'd be Sophie. I Sophie you know what I'm saying, my mama would always tell him, Sophie, I'm gonna be, my son gonna be a rapper.

You know, they'd be Sophie, all right Sophie, you know what I'm saying, no, my son gonna be a rapper. I was fell in every class in the first grade and Mathea Rosario told me this story. Mathea Rosario was, she's not my dear, but like we were very close, so like they're family. You know what I'm saying, that type of shit. And she was actually in the car with my mother

when she passed and she, you passed and they were tight, man. And she told me that I was fellin' every class in the first grade and all her and her friends were like, Sophie, he fellin' in the first grade? Like, what the fuck goin' on? He's fellin', stop, you know? And she was like, fuck that school, my son gonna be a rapper.

My dad would wake me up before school at like four or five o'clock in the morning when I was in the seventh grade and He'd wake me up. He'd be like son you ready to whoop ass I gotta get ready for school. He's like fuck school. You ready to get down there whoop ass and he wasn't saying fuck school Cuz like you know I'm saying because he always pressed like being good and getting knowledge You know I'm thing but like he knew I didn't give a fuck He knew I was just saying that. So he's like, in his mind, he's like, motherfucker, you gonna get up and come down here and rap,

you know? Cause he would party every night and he had the shit that people wanted and women wanted to be with him and men wanted to be him. So every night after they get done partying, Monday through Sunday, he'd always bring the party back home

and he would have me a house full of women, women sitting on the fucking stairs, lined up one sitting on the refrigerator. We had two, I had a master of, and he was have me a house full of women women sitting on the fucking stairs lined up one sitting on the refrigerator we had two I had a master of and he was mixed with Presque Canaria I think I said they're right his name was Bronson like Charles Bronson he was Brenda when his eyes were orange lit up oh just a beast and I could see the house and we were living in the duplex so then it looked like it's even more crowded you know and my dad would play like a ghetto boys beat which is like five minutes fucking long if you

don't know so I'm about two three minutes in and he's like the fuck you're slowing down for the beat ain't over and I think I had to jump back on and not eat these grown-ass men alive and how were you writing your raps back then we write them in your head or were you writing them now everything was on a pad yeah I had everything in notebooks I was supposed to be taking notes in school and I'm writing. I didn't do anything else except for write, draw or read. So from the beginning, that's what you wanted? It's not what I wanted, it's what my mama wanted.

I don't even think I still know what I want to this day. Really? I think what I just want to be okay. I don't even give a fuck about this money, the fame. I don't give a fuck about, I love the music because I mean, I'm blessed and I'm grateful for it. I cherish it because like it's my living and I'm comfortable off of it. This is what my mama wanted.

You know what I'm saying? So to this day, you're not sure that that's what you wanted. I don't think it is. I think what I want is just love. I missed out on a lot of love. I want a family. I just want to be okay. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I just want a simple life. I think that happens to a lot of people when they get pushed into something at a really young age. You hear that with a lot of athletes, a lot of young fighters, a lot of young football players. They're just like, I never knew what I wanted to do.

They told me what I wanted to do. Right. And then here I am successful. I guess it's all right, but am I even me? Yeah. I'm a product. Correct. Yeah.

I feel like I'm definitely me. And, um, but this was definitely for my mama. Definitely. Well, it worked out. Yeah, definitely. I'm thinking how happy she would be right now. Man, bro, and that's one thing I've always, I just want to see her jam my music.

Because I remember being in the backseat watching her jam Ashanti and Ja Rule. And I remember her body language. I remember seeing her move. I remember her beautiful smile when she would sing. And I'm like, damn, I wish I could see her sing my music. Wow. I know she would. And I ain't no bullshit. I wish I could see her sing my music. You know? I know she would.

And I ain't no bullshit, like everything I'm talking about solid. So like I know she would feel it even more, like damn my son gangster. That's awesome. Yeah, I know she would love it bro. Well, that's a beautiful thing though. It's kind of amazing.

I mean, you think about how many people you touch and inspire, and how many people love your music, how many people you excite. Correct. You know, I mean, you excite people. Those songs come on, people get excited. Correct. She would be very happy with that.

Yeah, no, it's a blessing, man. And my father, he tells me all the time, like, man, this shit started in the kitchen. Right before I walked onto the rodeo stage, he said, son, you're still in the kitchen. Wow. And I was like, I know. That's cool.

Yeah. You're in the kitchen, but now there's millions of people in it. Yeah. Is that wild? Yeah, nah, it's beautiful, man. How old are you? I just turned 25, February 6th.

Damn, you're just a baby. Yeah. Just a young man. I'm trying, we getting there. That's amazing. Yep, yep, yep. When did things really start popping for you? I would definitely, Yeah. Just a young man. I'm trying. We getting there. That's amazing. Yep, yep, yep. When did things really start popping for you?

I would definitely... I don't know, because I feel like every time I drop something, I always had good motion. I dropped a music video called Plan C in 2018, 2019, which is a lot, but it's not a lot. It hit 30k and got stuck. Now it's at 40k. It might be at more now. Last time, I ain't checking in a while, but it was like at 40K and got stuck. Which is, like I said, a lot, but not a lot.

But I'm from the country, and I'm just a kid in the country. Slash the hood. I didn't really want no promo, no nothing. I just made a video and I'm doing music because my uncles got a studio in the house. So of course I'm going to be doing music. I'm fucked up on drugs.

I don't want no job. I don't want to be around nobody. I'm fucked up on drugs. I don't want no job. I don't wanna be around nobody. I'm finna do this. And then one day, my cousin, he had a homeboy and he heard the song. He was like, bro, I wanna jump on it. Let me jump on it. So I was like, fuck it, you know, jump on it.

And then he was like, man, I got a homeboy. I got a buddy and he be shooting videos. I was like, shit, fuck it. What else is there to do? You know what I'm saying? And we shot the video. We're all doing this just for the fun of it. Like there's nothing else to do? You know what I'm saying? And we shot the video, we're all doing it just for the fun of it, like there's nothing else to do.

And just dropped it and it went good. Then I dropped another song called La Muerte, maybe about two years after that. And when I dropped La Muerte, that's when I was like, all right, I think it was like 2021, maybe 2020. That's when I was like, yeah, like, I could do something with this. Cause I'm not rapping no more I'm actually making songs

There's a difference between rapping and making music and I think when I wrote la muerte that's when I was like, yeah I think I could do it. Wow. Yeah So then you yeah exactly. I'm with it. That's right there. That's my grandma house and my grandpa. I was right in the bag That's out of country And how old me in this When did this video drop Okay, now I reposted it on there. So it's about five years ago. I was maybe like 20 right there 20 sound right. So you your whole life you've been on this path

Yeah, correct and you want to know what's crazy? Some people that I talk to like back then in the country and they like, bro, like, I've always looked at you as a rapper. Even kids in school, like people at school that I talked to, like man, like you would just always had a rapper, like I've always just looked at you as a rapper.

You know what I'm saying? Even in kids at school, like, oh yeah, I'll tell you, he the rapper. You know, like, bro, I was in Miss Terry's class in eighth grade, and everybody's getting certificates in school, and you know, my buddy Brand, he's like, most likely to go on the UFC, most likely to wear a red button-up shirt, most likely, and everybody's getting this stuff,

and mine's was most likely to be a rapper. So like, everything was just just like surrounded by it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I remember being at school rapping at lunch, having the teachers and the kids surrounding me. The bells ringing, we supposed to go to the next class and we still going headstrong. You know?

Like I've always just had a crowd. I've always been the center of attention. I remember my nanny would take me to Pallie Royale go school shopping when I was like eighth grade. I mean, eight years old, nine years old, 10 years old. And I'm rapping to the me to Pallie Royale, go school shopping when I was like eighth grade, I mean eight years old, nine years old, ten years old, and I'm rapping to the people in Pallie Royale. There was a car show, my mother had just passed, I was probably like nine years old, my cousin Daniel took me to this car show, Slim Thug, Zero, and Paul Wall, and them were on stage

performing. And while they're on stage performing, the car show's gone over here, and then they got a bunch of vendors in their pop-ups, and this one dude has a microphone at his pop up and he's trying to sell shit. All this and that, yeah, woo woo. And I ended up grabbing his mic and I started rapping to Zero and then performing live on stage. I don't even think they know this though,

I've never even told them that shit. And, but yeah, bro, I was rapping to Paul Wall, Slim Thug and Zero on stage live. While I was probably like nine years old. Wow. You know, I'm seeing all these women, you know what I'm saying, wearing booty shorts and these crop tops and I'm seeing all these dudes

and they just look clean with the J's, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, like I'm in here. You know what I'm saying? At nine. Yeah, it was cool. Wow. Yeah.

What were your first? influences musically Definitely whatever my mama was jamming. She was jamming that Ashanti and Ja Rule I can't my dad was jamming everything my dad was jamming like fucking All Springs fucking tool he was jamming three day grace fucking all that shit You know, yeah, so like I and and then on my mama's side of the family, they all gangsters and like chola, so it was like gangsta rap music and then like some Latino music.

And then my mom, my dad's side of the family, they're all cowboys, so I'm jamming country and shit like that, you know. Then I go with my dad and he's jamming rock and all this extra shit. So like I just got to, and then when I, once I got older and started discovering music on my own, you know what I'm saying?

I've already like rock and rap to Latino music to country. So like how farther can I go with this? And now my taste in music is just all out jam music. I don't even know the language too, but if I feel it, I feel it. Yeah. I feel it. I think that's why it's easy for me

to just jump in any genre and dominate because I can feel it And put me in it right you don't have a restriction in your head of what you can do. Great. Yeah Well, that's Cowboy Killer great And that's I think it's one of the reasons why I resonate with so many people because it's just it's fun And it's like what is this guy doing here man, but it don't sound forced either It also doesn't sound like anybody else. Like you don't sound like anybody else. Like you never hear, people, I play that

and people go who the fuck is that? Yeah. Like they get interested. Like this is different. Thank you. It's beautiful when something comes along that just resonates like that. That like you could, you know,

there's so many influences out there. So when someone comes along and you're like wow, that's a different vibe. Stevie was definitely my influences for like music, like Cowboy Killer. Yeah. Yes. Uh, Stevie Ray Vaughn, he was a white boy. After every show, he'd be like, ah, mucho gracias and walk off. Yeah. Yeah. My grandpa, he said he used to be on acid at his shows in Austin all the time. He performed at my club. We have a photo of him on stage in my club from 1983 are you shitting me? Walk towards the club when you're downstairs and you're walking towards the stage

There's a photo on the side of the wall. There's two of them of Steve Ray Vaughn on stage At the theater you a bad motherfucker. We got lucky with that. We got lucky with that I didn't even know the history the place until I bought it. What was it? It was, at one point in time, it was the Alamo, it's the Ritz Theater on Sixth Street. Oh, nice shit. So one point in time was the Alamo Drafthouse. There it is, that's the photo we have.

Wow, look at them. It was a rock and roll club, it was a punk rock club, it was a nudie movie theater, it was a pool hall. Wow. It was like. So it's already been known for just being the spot. Yeah, It was a pool hall. Wow. It was like. So it's already been known for just being the spot. Yeah, that's it right there. Wow.

So it was always a cool spot. Let's see. And now it's my comedy club. Let's see. But it's just, there's certain old places where you walk in them and you're like, you can feel the memories in the walls. Like they have, I think buildings have memory.

I think that's why people don't want to buy a house where someone was murdered in. Yeah, I think buildings have, I think things have memory. Yeah, I really do. There's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake, I forget what his discipline is, I think he's an evolutionary biologist or something like that, I forget what he does.

But anyway, he's got this theory about Memory and that we have this idea that we are the only things that have memory But he thinks that everything is memory that all you agree. Yeah It's a psychology psychology researcher. He proposed a concept of morphic resonance a conjecture that lacks mainstream. He's he's he gets criticized as being kind of a loon But he's got some really fucking interesting ideas and he's a brilliant guy He just thinks outside the box and one of the things he thinks is that everything has some sort of a memory to it That's not he's not the only one that thinks that I want to understand him like this like this table is gonna Like there's not it can't tell you things of course

But this table is different because all the people that have been this room talking great You know and I think there's something real to that Yeah, I so when I say I agree I say I feel like I agree because words are powerful Yeah, like maybe the war like I'm experiences are powerful. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, everything's like words Experiences are powerful. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, everything's like words Facilitate experiences right you go on stage and you're killing it and everybody in the audience is jamming out That's an experience, you know, and then will they go back to that place? Maybe they'll go back and be empty something. I saw that Mexican OT here right here. I was standing right here and you feel it Yeah, I think that's why when you go by your old high school you go by your old high school

You feel like a loser again like yeah, you feel like like makes me feel like I felt when I was 16 Something about that and I know that's a psychological connection that you have But I also think that high school has got the memories of a bunch of confused fucked up kids I didn't know what to do with their life And they were buck wild and yelling and screaming and school fights and all the chaos. I think it's burned into the walls. I think, I really believe that. Yeah, I can agree with that.

That sounds crazy, I've never heard it, but I actually love that. I think that's what haunted houses are. What? Yeah, I think ghosts are real, but I think what a ghost is, is the, like if someone gets brutally murdered in a building, like imagine if there's a house and some husband comes home

and brutally murders his wife and that. Nobody wants to buy a fucking house. Nobody wants to buy that house. He stabbed her a hundred times in the kitchen. Nobody wants that house. You gotta level that house to the ground and still people don't want that land. It's just too fucked up.

I think when something truly horrific happens, the experience is so intense and extreme that that energy creates like a void. And you feel that void when you're there. And I think if you're in the right state of mind and you're in a house where someone fell down a flight of stairs, snapped their neck and was in horror, you would feel it. Yeah, I do agree. You would feel it. And you might feel them. Their experience might be recorded in a way where it has a little flashback. Yeah. And you just like hear someone saying help,

like real softly, and you're like, what the fuck is going on? You turn the lights on, no one's there. Fuck, fuck all that. Yeah. I do agree though. And I know, I've always believed in God and things like that, you know, because I grew up non-denominational.

My nanny always prayed, you know, and things like that. But what made me full on believe it, and like spirits and knowing that it's here, was I seen bad first. And I was like, well, fucking yin and yang, you know? Yes and no, on and off. Like, if there's bad, there's gotta be good. And after that, that's when I've been full on prayed up and full on been trying to get better with the message,

you know? Because I wanna be ready, we gotta be ready for that talk, you know? But yeah, it gets wicked though, definitely. I think, there's another thing that makes me uncomfortable as I get older is I realize That there probably has to be evil in order for good to exist There's some weird with human beings. There's some very weird balance very weird balance of good and evil and It's just like you don't appreciate sunshine and lesser rains you live in LA. You're always used to the Sun suns bullshit Nobody gives a fuck about that son, right? Man, you live in LA you're always used to the Sun suns bullshit

Nobody gives a fuck about that Sun right man. You live in Portland Day, it's sunny out. You're like oh Yeah, you're out in the park with a coffee. Oh, this is beautiful. That's son. Yeah, so good Yeah, you know I think we need a balance and unfortunately one of the things that creates more good is evil a balance and unfortunately one of the things that creates more good is evil because someone has to combat that good in the war combat that evil and the way you combat that evil has become a better person become great become something special I like it I think that's real and it's like there's so much evidence of it if you look at human beings there's never been a time where there haven't

been evil people yeah great not correct it's not like one society where everybody figured it out and everybody was cool Yeah, correct, and if they are it lasts like a couple years and then falls apart You know I think What I do want to tell you this though before I forget the fight the wolves you got out there have you ever seen the movie creep Creep it's yeah, it's it's like it's a fucking scary ass movie What was that movie from how long ago? I don't know maybe like 2017 2016. I don't think I saw it

Yes, I would highly advise it. Yeah. Yeah, it reminds me of peach fuzz Peach fuzz you just got to watch it. I wouldn't even want to ruin it for you You know, I don't know if you like movies or not, but bro, it's an amazing movie that wolf out there The that's the from the American werewolf in London. Okay, so yeah You're sure movie. No, I haven't oh look at this thing. Yes peach fuzz. Holy fuck. That's hilarious, bro Please watch it. Oh, so that guy's the villain. So he's a bad guy with a wolf mask on he's not yeah I mean, yeah, but you just got to watch it. Okay He's throw it off man

He drives around like that You got to watch it. Okay. Oh They throwed off, man. He drives around like that? You gotta watch it, bro. Okay. Oh, they're doing a Creep 2. Yeah, they did. They did? Creep 2? Yeah, they did do a Creep 2.

Creep 1 was 2014, Creep 2 2017. There you go. Underrated horror movie. So Creep 2 is alright, you know what I'm saying? It's kind of like Grease. Like it should just left it alone with the first one. But. Yeah, kind of like Rambo.

Correct. But. It was a Rambo 2? This is like 3 or 4 Rambo's. How many Rambo's have there been? A lot. I think there's even a new one coming out. Apparently the last one is hilarious. Really? Yeah, my friend Joey Diaz saw the last one.

He said, dude, it's a comedy. You gotta watch this. Sylvester Stallone is 80 years old, he's killing everybody. He's fucking everybody up and shooting everybody. He kills like 150 people. Apparently it's ridiculous. You ever seen Badass with Machitha? Badass.

Yeah, he's like the grandpa and he got caught whooping these dudes on camera and he went viral for it. Then he becomes like a hometown hero and starts whooping ass. When was that movie? Damn. 2012. I don't think I saw that either. I go live. I've seen a lot of movies But that's when you're on the road. Yeah, that's why I was doing the watch my mama my mama had like So we had the TV and then there was a big ass

Entertainment Center surrounding it and it was just filled with movies DVDs VHS is down here in the middle. you know? I remember watching Monkey Bone on VHS. Oh wow, that's an old one. Yeah, I've been trying to shoot a video like that. I like Monkey Bone. Whoopi Goldberg's in it and all that. Yeah. Land of the Nightmares.

It's funny how Scarface became the gangster movie. Like the gangster movie. Like that was, everybody knew all the words to Scarface. You know what I think is like the most gangsterist movie ever? What? Apocalypto. Oh, that's a good one. Bro.

That's a good one. And my favorite part is when he escapes him and he goes back in his jungle, and he's like, this is my jungle. And then this guy get knocked off one by one. That shit's wicked, man. I like that shit. That's a wicked movie, man. That's a wicked movie. I like that shit. That's a wicked movie, man.

That's a wicked movie. I like that one. And that was back when Mel Gibson, like everybody's like, Mel Gibson's fucking crazy. Really? They thought of him like that? Yeah, he got pulled over, and he was drunk, and said a bunch of wild shit about Jews.

Wow. Then the cops had it recorded. Damn. Yeah, and you know, Mel is. Damn, what's up with, I feel like lately I've been hearing everybody talk shit about Jews It's popular these days. It's probably yeah, it's because of what's going on in Gaza. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's the Palestinian Israeli conflict. Oh, yes, bro. She a angle lie. I know she scared the fuck out of them

Well, we recently described is just like it's a non-stop chase which it kind of is. But it's fucking good. What is a non-stop chase? Like the whole movie is a chase scene. Yeah. Sometimes it's just a scene in a movie but it's like the whole movie. It was a brutal fucking movie too. Woo.

Yo you know what's good? Have you seen Shogun? That series that's on FX? Nah I can't get into series. Oh man. Yeah it's good? This one's good. Wow. This one's good.

This is on Japan in the 1600s, and these dudes are starving at sea, and their boat washes ashore. In Japan, they get captured, and they kill a couple of them, and this one dude... I don't want to spoil it for you, but it's just, like, showing you the reality.

It's very well done. Yeah, I believe it. The reality of life in Japan, in Osaka, in 1600. It's a fucking incredible, incredible series. It's so well done. This is it right here. Yeah, they did it in there. Shogun.

Oh, I feel like I've seen like commercials of it, definitely. Yeah, it's new. It's still airing. I think they've only aired three episodes so far maybe four by now Okay, so you're into this. How do you how'd you feel about it man? I? Didn't watch it man. I mean I knew the history of Yip man Which is I think it's kind of based on who's Bruce Lee's Wing Chun instructor But I you know I don't get into those kind of movies that much yeah those kind of kung fu movies

Yeah, because it's too much of my analytical brain. Yeah. Those kind of kung fu movies. Yeah. Because too much of my analytical brain for fighting. It's like, why you fighting like this? Just grab that dude, kick his legs out from under him, take him down, strangle him, this is stupid. You're a bad motherfucking bro. This is stupid, why you guys standing here in front of each other doing this shit?

Yeah, I dig it, I dig it. It just looked cool. It does look cool. My dad always called it pretty fighting. Yeah, I could never get into kung fu movies. A lot of my friends were into kung fu movies. I'd go, but I didn't get into them. Scary movies, how you feel about scary movies?

Love scary movies. That's where I'm at. Like, bro, it's almost like weed ain't enough no more. I need meth. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like, scary. Damn. Because, like, bro, I was already watching scary movies

with my mama. Like, that was her favorite. So, like, now I don't even want a scary movie. I want something that's like disturbing Well, how about what is that one movie where that dude wears like a clown face and kills everybody? That's oh you gotta watch creep. That's what I'm trying to tell you creeps a good one But this one's like that too. I will watch creep for sure There's a some fucking it's like real gruesome horrible shit. Oh, and the dude dresses like a clown

They made a couple of them Fire that's right. That's my dad's favorite. That's crazy Like my dad wants him tatted on him. His name is art the clown That's amazing. Yeah pull a video pull a clip up of terrifier. Yeah, this motherfucker is legitimately terrifying too. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes He just be smiling. Yeah, look at it. Just you seen how he fucking cut homegirl from the puss down? Yeah, not nice. Really not a nice thing to do. Eww. Look at them teeth.

Yeah. It's funny how people disrespect him. They think he's funny. They think he's silly. Like, look at you, you fucking loser. Yeah, that's really what it is. Yeah. They always have to disrespect him first.

And then they're like, like get away you fucking stupid clown He's in that 16 year old feeling comes back. Yeah, they just chopping him up look He's like are you gonna make pennywise look like crusty? Yeah Oh Shit yeah Stay on the line with me until the police arrive. Oh, shit. Yeah. It's a crazy movie, man. Rob Zombie was also gnarly, too.

Oh, yeah. I was a big fan of his work. He's a cool dude. I got to meet him. What? Yeah. Yeah, I did a podcast with him back in the day. Sick. How was he?

He's great. Great. Great. I believe it. It's so interesting that that guy got really into making horror movies, too. Yeah. And he does those same kind of movies, like really fucked up slashing. I feel like he had the best Halloween too.

Yeah, he had a really good Halloween. For sure. How many of those have there been? Too many. There's been so many of those movies. Yeah, I feel like a lot of the scary movies now are a little lame, just because they just make them complete fucking studs. It's more of like an action movie for the scary killer.

He just comes in and just fucking fuck shit up, goes've shit like bro. I want to be scared. You know I don't want to see him fucking take on a whole army Yeah, no, man. Yeah action movie. I prefer action movies a good one really yeah good action movie What's a good action movie? Well stupid good action movie, it's good, but it's not realistic is John wick. Yeah, that's a great You need to watch a Benjamin. Yeah a Benjamin. What's a Benjamin? It's about it's I personally like I always say that he I'm gonna say whoop John wick But he put John wicker fight really for sure. Have you seen Sisou? Sisou no I haven't Sisou is about a dude in World War two

That's basically like a John wick in World War two So this he kills like a hundred Nazis by himself It's a real good movie do it's real well-done Sisu Sisu it's what is it a is it What country finish? Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah now fucking aven fucking Avengment, I forgot what his name was, but like he was a fighter, like and he and his brother was doing some gangster shit and he ended up going down for his brother

and fucking, yup, right here. He's in UK. Avengment. The prison that he's in is so, they call it the meat grinder. Yo, I'm talking about just fucking shit up, bro. Jesus. Hit him with a napalm.

He's like, yeah bro, he was like, you just gotta callus the mind and callus, like bro, he was like, man, he's a badass. Look at him, then that's when he escapes prison. And you know what's my favorite part about him? His heart. Why he does everything that he does in this movie. Why's that?

He just got to watch it. I always feel like I'm being conned when a movie does that. When there's like a hit man with a heart of gold, I'm like, shut the fuck up. Just shut the fuck up. I know what you're doing, bitch, I'm not 12. Yeah, of course. He definitely was doing to be a savage,

but like, you know, you might as well as end on some good shit. Yeah, but you know, like, there's always like, the guy who's the contract killer, but you know, he has rules. The person has to be guilty. They have, you know, he has like a whole thing. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

You know, that's like the gray man. The outfit, have you seen the outfit? That's another good. Yeah. Yeah for sure, you know, that's like the gray man the outfit Have you seen the outfit? That's another good one. My dad just put me on that one It's like some like old-school gangster time where they wear suits and shit mobsters more I think that's more gangster than me. Like I've always been into the mobs more than like Some gang bangers. Yeah for sure like It's just player to me movies. Yeah, correct. Like The Godfather and all that. Even The Goodfellas and things like that.

It's just player to me. You know what I'm saying? Well, there's something about it, that lifestyle is so appealing to some people that feel like their life is mundane and boring. You know, like that's why The Sopranos was so good. Like Tony Soprano was a straight up murderer and he was the hero.

A straight up murderer. He killed Christopher Maldesanti in his fucking Cadillac Escalade seat Jesus just killed him right next to him He was a killer, but you liked him. Yeah, he was a liar a killer a thief Who were the two brothers the two brothers there? I think it was based on the true story to their life from Germany craze was that it? Yeah, holy shit bro. Just from the actors in story too. They were like from Germany or something. The Craze from England. What's that again? England, holy shit. The Craze, bro. Just from the actors in the movie, they look like brutes. They were brutes. Yeah, I believe it.

Bro, England didn't play. Bro, that's what I'm saying. People think about England, they're like fish and chips and fucking tea. Cheerio. Yeah, nah, there's hood everywhere, bro. It fucked me up when I saw there was hood outside of Bay City,

because I thought Bay City was like the only hood in the whole world. The Kratrans were running. Look at two bro. Is that are they from Liverpool? What part of it like it? Smack the shit out of you Fucking stab you right in the dick. Where's my crumpet? Where these guys from what they look they look like Like they just look like Haggerston boots yeah mostly in the east end of London from the night the late 50s until their arrest in 1968 damn so they ran shit

for 18 years that's a good run yeah the movie's crazy too yeah apparently is not too they didn't take any yeah they didn't take any liberties. It's basically the story, I believe. Let's see. Yeah. Again, it's weird we like movies about bad people. There's something about that. Strange.

Yeah, cause I- Sicario. I don't know, I don't think I know that one. Oh, you never saw Sicario? Dude. No? That's a great fucking movie. Put me on, Put me on show me that's Benicio del Toro, man Yeah, that's a great fucking movie. Sicario was all about Mexican assassins. Wow. Yeah, dude Sicario Emily Blunt

Benicio del Toro, it's a good fucking movie. Well, Taylor Sheridan did it the guy who did Yellowstone He did yellow. you know Ryan Bingham? Mm-hmm. I fucking met him at the rodeo. He fucks with me. Oh really? Everybody fucks with you dude once they hear you. Yeah, right, right. This is a good fucking movie, man It's heavy Nice shit looks not. Yeah, it's a heavy movie. Yeah, did you see the last purge? It made me think of the last purge I don't like those Purge movies. No?

How come why? No, because I get prepared. When I see Purge movies, I start fucking loading magazines. I feel like we're close to it. We could be close to it. I never felt that until the George Floyd riots. Really? Yeah, the George Floyd riots.

Here's the thing about riots. This is my feeling. I support your right to protest. Correct. But I'm not going to one of those. You know why? Because I think protests are a lot like war. I think there's a mode inside the human brain. Let me explain to you.

You ever catch a fish? You know when you catch a fish? The moment that fish is on the line, your whole body gets excited. Like, oh shit, oh shit. That is an ancient thing that is in us because it used to be that was survival So if you caught that fish your family was gonna have food. Yeah, that's what that's why you get so excited Well, I think when people are on the ground marching and they're all together and they're all chanting that brings Yeah It's great. It excites that feeling just the way catching a fish excites that feeling They're all together and they're all chanting. That brings war. Yeah. Oh, jeez.

It brings, it excites that feeling. Just the way catching a fish excites that feeling. I think it excites that feeling of war. Yeah. And when you like, no more Trump, no more Trump. Whatever the fuck it is. Black lives matter. Whatever it is.

You're looking for someone to say it doesn't matter. You're looking for someone. It's not just a protest. You are stimulating those thoughts of war. someone to say it doesn't matter. You're looking for someone. It's not just a protest. You are stimulating those thoughts of war. You're marching on the ground with your fellow soldiers. They even call each other comrades. There's a lot of wild shit that's involved in protests that excites people in a very dangerous way. Yeah, no, yeah, definitely. I agree. Mob mentality, that's what mob mentality is. People always talk about mob mentality. That's what mob mentality is Yeah The real people always talk about mob mentality like if there's something happens as a mob of people people will do wild shit that they

Will never do normally because that excites the war gene There's a war gene inside of us because every human being has survived war if you're alive today That means your genetics survive war that means somewhere down the line That means your genetics survive war that means somewhere down the line whether it's bows and arrows or Rifles or whatever if you got to 2024 if your genes got to 2024 for sure there's some war in those genes Damn, yeah, what the fuck? Yeah? That's why I will not go to protest you see if there's a process. I'm getting the fuck out of there Yeah, it's gonna get wicked because it could get wicked

It might not have thought of how you said that that's crazy. I like that. It's war it's wars inside of us and Your body knows when you go to war you have to switch gears You have to switch gears and that's where mom and that's you beat some of the death with a rock in front of everybody You would never do that. It was just mom and that's you beat some of the death with a rock in front of everybody you would never do that It was just you and that person there's something about that Experience of being around a lot of people that are all being hostile and all excited together That just fires up parts of people and also you feel kind of like a badass because you're a part of a gang Yeah, I think it I think it's a comfort in knowing that if there's a bunch of you like no

I'm you like you can't lose. Which is also like war. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, fuck, fuck, dude. I just want to love. Yeah. Well, that's a better way to live, for sure. But you also have a lot now.

That's the thing, once you have a lot, you're like, you know what? I just want to love. But when you don't have a lot, and you're like, all these motherfuckers have a lot now. It's hard to love, yeah. It's hard. It's hard to be comfortable. I do definitely agree, because I feel like it was harder to be... I feel like then, like before I was chilling and blessed, man, bro, my anger was so horrible.

I remember I'd get done being angry, and when I would be done, I'd be like, I just want to sleep. Sworn self out. Like, don't even talk. Yeah, like fuck, I just want to sleep. I'd feel like I got jumped jumped like I just strained my body You know I'm saying just being angry and for no reason fuck for like bro for the simplest shit, bro Anything like the wind blew the wrong way and I'd be like fuck, you know, I'm saying like I don't know what it was

It's probably pent-up childhood shit it did I feel like it definitely was but you know, like you said, you know It's it's easier to to love when you have a lot of it. Yeah, when things are going great for you, it's easier to love. It's easier to also recognize you want to kind of... You've experienced bad and now you're experiencing all this good, and you want to kind of keep that rolling. Yeah, correct. It makes you want to do good, or at least me personally, because I know you do good.

Because energy is real. I don't want to say karma and then but like man You know you'd be a whole ass motherfucker some whole ass shit's eventually gonna catch up to you Yes, that's a great way to put it right. Yeah, so once you put that on a t-shirt But you know you do good you know like man I just like bro relationships is everything too You know I'm saying cuz like just cuz I don't know I do it man homeboy right here I'm gonna make it my best friend. He's gonna do it for me, right? You know yeah relationships are very very important people that don't have friends are lost lost

The idea that you could be like the only one person having fun. That's not real You can't have fun unless your friends are having fun If you if you're doing great in your life and all your friends are suicidal and depressed. Yeah, that's not a good time, man Yeah, and if you're good with it and they still depressed and shit, you're thrown off, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. My boys, man, I've never, ever, ever flew first class, ever. And my boy, Boomhauer, I started bringing him with me,

and I fucking started booking first class because I want him to experience that shit. Like, man, what make me happy is seeing my people happy and knowing I did it, you know what I'm man, I just, what make me happy is seeing my people happy, you know, and I did it. You know what I'm saying? Like, we be out there chilling and shit like that, and I'll do all this and I'll cater to everybody, and then finally I just sit back, like my joint up,

and I just look, and I see my partner over there laughing. I see Cuzz right here with some drinks, and he laughing. You know what I'm saying? And we just chilling, I'm like, damn, I did that. Yeah, that's a good experience. I did that. Problem rappers have. I do shit for people that I know would never do shit for me.

But I do it because, like, man, that's just who I am. I just want to love. Because it feels good to do that. That's a great sign of your character, that you experienced that while you're having success, that you want to do good for other people and make other people feel good? That's a great sign and make me feel good. Yeah, that's well that you're a wise man

That's a great sign of your character that that's that's because a lot of people when they start doing good They start going I'm the fucking man. Yeah, I'm fucking man. Now you started off as a nobody homeboy Yeah, you know saying everybody's a nobody. Mm-hmm. You know I'm saying you just you just happen to be good at that you know I'm saying I just happen to be good at rapping you know I'm saying this shit don't make my dick bigger you know I'm saying real life imagine if it did I would yeah that'd be bad though you know I'm saying that's what have the biggest dick on earth whoo rewind rewind because it's hard telling the story right it's hard telling the story and rhyming right it's hard telling the story. Right. It's hard telling the story in rhyming.

Right. It's hard telling the story rhyming and telling the story backwards. It's a master class. Get the fuck out of here bro. Master class in writing. I was just listening to Rewind yesterday. And I was thinking that exact same thing.

Like, how good is that? How good is that bro? The smoke goes back in the blunt. Yeah. Bullet goes back in the gun. Yeah. It's an amazing rap. Shoot, don't please. Yeah, and it's a man. It's an amazing don't please yeah

Yeah, so good. Yeah, so well make sense it feels you know it flows. You know I'm saying he's the best writer He thinks oh, he's the best writer. He's the best writer He's like his lyrics are so goddamn good He's the goat, but you know who's super underrated if people don't give him his props is Willie D from the ghetto boys We really do and he was knocking motherfuckers out motherfuckers out. He's a legit boxer He's a real boxer. He showed me video one of his fights and we were watching on his phone. I'm like, yeah I'm like, this is good. Like you got skills Like if you told me this like a middleweight contender was coming up I'd be like, oh that guy's good. No shit

Contender was coming up. I'd be like oh that guy's good. No shit. Billy Willie can knock people the fuck out. Yeah, but Willie wrote fuck a war in 45 minutes You ever heard fuck a war? Mm-hmm. All right. Listen. Sorry YouTube. We're gonna have to edit We I need to play this for him. Let's do it with YouTube Well, we'll cut this out. Can we cut this out and we'll come back. We'll come back for the Spotify people you could, whatever. We'll figure it out. But we'll cut this out. Listen to this. Yeah.

I agree though. Yeah, Willie, I agree with that too. But Willie tells stories. There's a lot going on in his writing. Yeah, correct. That's what I love about 90s hip hop. Yeah, correct. The lyrics of 90s hip hop.

They were saying shit. Oh yeah, man. This, I grew up on 90s hip-hop. The lyrics of 90s hip-hop. They were saying shit. Oh yeah, man. I grew up on 90s hip-hop. I grew up, when I lived in New York, all I did was play pool. Play pool and do comedy. And when I was playing pool, that was the 90s hip-hop era.

People were listening to Cool G rap and DJ Polo. It was a different time, man. To me, M was the best. M M and Big L when it came to those stories People forgot about Big L man. Oh big big L is one of the reasons why my animal today Really a Mexican with no green card showed me who Big L was really. Yeah my partner firming Wow I found out about Big L because I was a gangsta fan And so in the beginning of full clip it says Big L rest in peace yeah and it goes into that I was like all the time because people forgot about him tech nine to

Take nine. Yeah, I remember I was jamming tech nine yellow wolf and all these dudes Like I was jamming worldwide choppers and people be like turn this shit off like what the fuck I'd be like bitch. I was tripping you know saying like that, but their minds wasn't there You know saying I they was they was like on that I think mumble rap was barely coming out the fucking you know I'm saying like the drugged up SoundCloud rappers was here So like all that shit without the window to them Well people forgot about some of the great Mexican hip-hop to like Kid Frost Kid Frost was cool Yeah, I don't know if you know little being in big flake. No, I don't yeah, those are some Texas Mexicans

They was like really the shit and my uncle's to, my uncles was like, they was SPM to me. And they was hard. So like even just having my uncles, them being my Missions mentors, you know what I'm saying? Like they was ripping shit real life. Nice. Ripping shit up. That's what, like if you wanted to develop a rapper,

like you kinda was- The perfect story for it. It was like you got your PhD in the streets. Bro, that's what I'm saying. Even my dad, like he put me through gladiator school with that shit, you know what I'm saying? I remember being like, dad I don't want to rap, because everybody was trying to be a rapper, dad I don't want to be a rapper no more.

He'd be like, shut the fuck up, get on this beat. For real. You know what I'm saying? And he would have me rap, not because he wanted me to be better, not because he wanted me to push, to push me. He was being selfish. It was his, he was being selfish. It was his entertainment. Yeah, but also, he probably knew that that's the only way

to really develop a man correctly. Correct, but I don't think that was on his mind. No? I think he was like- Have you talked to him about this? I mean, I hear him talk about it. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? And he would just be fucked up, like,

get down here, want to hear you You know cuz he been hearing me since forever right since since I was rapping through a window well There is a lot of that with Parents of athletes you know like that they couldn't make it in the sport But then they're like like super involved parents, and they forced their kid to train and go to camp So nobody nobody in my family did music. No one. No one. Really? So it's just your dad just loved it

and he wanted you to do it? My mama loved it. You know what I'm saying? And then my dad was just a fan of it. Wow. You know? Well that's fucking dope. Having your dad be a fan of your shit. Yeah, that's also another thing

that I was super grateful for because there was a lot of kids that I was growing up with and they were like, their parents like drilled them to be something else, you know exactly what you were saying Yeah, fuck all that even my even my stepmama like she wanted me to go bro I took the as bad like five times and failed every time I even cheated and still failed You know I'm saying real life I got the I got the as bad for dummies ripped those out of the fucking page put on pants went in

They're trying to look for answers still felt like it just wasn't for me and my my my grandpa skill He was like Virgil He was like it he said do what the fuck Virgil wants to do He said but whatever it is just make sure you fucking do it So if you want to be a rapper you be a rapper, but make sure you fucking do it And he's like now he's like, you know I'm saying you're gonna have to have a job You're gonna want a phone now. You got a phone bill You're gonna want a car to move around to go to these shows

You're gonna have fucking card notes and all this extra and he just you know, just giving me a game on it And he but his his story like his main Thing to get to me was just do it though. You know, fucking do it. Just do it. Do whatever you want to do, just do it. But that's a big thing in life, is just doing things. So many people just lay up. The hardest part is showing up.

Yes, always, still to this day. To this day the hardest part, going to the gym, is actually deciding you're gonna go, getting in there, and then once you get going, it's pretty easy. It's like, oh fuck, I'm here, yeah. Even when it's hard, it's like, I know what I'm doing. Yeah, correct. I've done this forever. Yeah, correct. And you get accustomed to doing it.

And then if you're, like, that's where your dad, like, really served you well, because he made you do it. Even if it was for his entertainment, damn, you got something out of that. Think about all those reps you put in. All those times you were rapping from the time you were a little kid, all those reps, just constant reps, constant reps.

Now it's muscle memory at this point. Exactly, it's part of you. It's like you can wake you up at three o'clock in the morning and say start rapping. Yeah, correct. And you fire right up. Correct. Yeah, it becomes a part of you.

And that only happens through repetition. You gotta get those reps in Yeah, Korea. It's no other way around. There's no shortcuts There's no easy road when you meet a dude and he's a bad motherfucker and he's 24 or 25 You know, how long you been doing this? Yeah, like it's that's what I try to tell people like like I try to compare like there's some people like as soon as they were Walking they were in karate, right as soon as I was talking I was rapping yeah like Music is what taught me

Not it didn't teach me how to English and how to talk but it taught me like how to put shit together really right? You know I'm saying right yeah, that makes sense. It does make sense because you're formulating raps You're not just talking to your friends. You're formulating shit. That's gonna be entertaining So it's exciting that creative part of your mind and again you're developing that way Yes, and you're developing that way with the internet career So you have the influence of all these rappers you could get anybody who ever lived you can listen to a hundred miles and running You can listen to Eminem shit. You can listen to Snoop Dogg shit. You can listen to anything anytime you want It's a magical time for someone to be inspired.

Yeah, correct. And influenced. Correct, I agree. Damn, that's beautiful. Especially the MTV music videos. I don't know if you remember that. Yeah. Yes, I remember those.

So my nanny, she was working at the plant. So like three, four o'clock in the morning, we're up. She's taking me to the babysitters. I'm putting MTV on, cause I wanna watch some shit. Music videos start playing you know I remember watching the the Black Keys yeah and they had that tightened up yeah I remember being a kid watching that like I want to do music like that bro those guys are the coolest I've never met them

but how long you here for I gotta be in South Padre tomorrow and then and then California for Rolling Loud. I'll be back on the 18th. Tomorrow I'm going to see the Black Keys at Stubbs in town. Are you shitting me? Bro, I took them to the club Tuesday night. They came, they did the podcast, we hung out. I got a little too high.

I was barbecued. But it was just a little, I just love them so much. They're so cool. And Patrick is hilarious. That dude is funny like a comedian. Yeah, he's funny I told him I go don't want to fuck up your life man, but you could do comedy Yeah, 100 because there's dudes you meet like that could do car. I used to work for his dude Who's a private investigator? I feel like being funny though in the comedian is different. It's only a little different

It's next-door neighbors. You just got to figure out how to go over Yeah, but it's not it's but it's a skill you learn how to do it It's it's gonna take time, but you can do it. I believe it. It's like a podcast I tell everyone if you were an interesting person to talk to you could you could have a podcast great But you got to learn how to do it great You got to learn how to not interrupt people you got to learn how To like bring the most out of them you got to learn the flow of the conversation It seems like it's just talking because it is just talking but it's an art form Great being funny if you're funny with your friends you can do it you just have to figure out how to do it

Yeah, and and I yeah, I definitely agree, but like to me I feel like it would be hard just cuz like my mind's already so everywhere Yeah, you know like I suck at focusing like yeah, that's what you focus when you rap. Oh, that's it But that's it, but that's all you need a thing that you know you could do that now Yeah, bro you as good as you are you could do anything you wanted You could do anything if you decided to stop rapping and you got super excited about making cars, you'd make the dopest cars. It's just the thing that a person, it's Miyamoto Musashi, who's a samurai in the 1400s. He wrote this book called The Book of Five Rings. It's about strategy. Miyamoto Musashi killed 60 men in one on one combat. He's like a legendary samurai. I have him tattooed on my arm. My whole right sleeve is Miyamoto Musashi.

Because he said this one thing, and I read this when I was like 16 years old. Once you know the way broadly, you can see it in all things. Once you know the way broadly, you can see it in all things. Once you become a master at something, you can see what it takes to be a master in all things.

Oh, okay. That's one of the reasons why I enjoy music so much. This guy have no musical ability at all. I have nothing. I have no talent. So I've never tried. So I see people do music like yeah just make it magic. Look at this magic experience. This dude's up there just singing and dancing and playing music and my whole body's excited. It's like I'm on a drug, I'm like wow, this is amazing. It's magic, I love it. It's, there's something about it man.

It's like when you see people at the top of the game with anything, it's so exciting. Yeah, not correct. That's what it is. And you, the way you do that with rap, bro, you would just have to have a thing that you love the way you love rapping. If there was a thing that came along and you love that thing as much as

you what is painting whatever the fuck it is I dominate you would dominate yeah I agree yeah cuz you would have the same focus and energy that you have with with your music that you have with that yeah that's why I'm grateful for the music man cuz like you know I just that other shit I feel like I just always sucked at like I have zero patience I hey I just that other shit. I feel like I just always sucked at like I have Hey, I suck at talking to people. I don't want to talk to a lot of people, you know I'm saying fucking but you're good talking Right now. Yeah, cuz I want to talk to you. Yeah, but that's what it is. That's what it's all Well, that's the secret to this podcast. I only talk to people I want to talk to Cray So I just read like I reached out to you. I was like this dude seems cool as fuck

I want to talk to you. Thank you, but that's how I the show. I just only find people like what's the black keys? I can't wait to talk to them. Yeah, I would talk to them at a diner, you know, I'll talk to them anywhere Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go to the park and talk. Okay. I want to talk to you. Yes I love talking to interesting people because I think it changes the way you see the world Yeah See the world through their eyes like I feel like you get a little something out of a person every time you sit and talk to them you ever met somebody and you were like man you throw it off, but I almost get it Yeah, a lot of people

comedians man Comedians almost all of them are off in some way Yeah to want to be standing on stage and make people laugh Tell stories and yeah, that's hard to do man. No yeah bro definitely. Like I said. To wanna do that you're a real weirdo. And then being able to go from a story to another one and then bring it right back in where you been.

You know what I'm saying? Like yeah you're a bad mother fucker bro. It takes a lot of work. But it's just like rap or like anything else. It's just time and reps and you're like trying to make it better. Correct. Like looking at it all the time.

Fucking with it, twisting it around, changing it, adding to it, better correct like looking at it all the time fucking with it twisting it around Changing it adding to it taking away editing it. Mm-hmm You know, it's but that's a thing like all things like all things and you really put your mind and your soul to it All things just you find where the the best version of it is What genre music was like the first thing you heard and you were like, this is the music I want to listen to Man, I was real lucky that you fucked me up with the ghetto boys. Oh I love ghetto boys. Let's see. I love ghetto boys. Yeah. Like I said I love 90s rap. I love a lot of east coast 90s rap. Like I said cool G rap. You ever heard- you know there's- do you know who the brand new heavies are? No. The brand new heavies are They're like a jazz group that did collaborations with like gang star

They did a cloud they did a thing called the heavy rhyme experience So it was this one CD they put out in the 90s and they did like jazz Music but they had like play death threat by cool. Gee rap one more. This is the last one. I promise. Sorry YouTube We're gonna have to Sneak this out. I'm a fan of you know You were just saying that you think rap came from jazz. Yeah. Yeah, I think rap came from jazz I mean listen to it, you know I'm saying it's got like a groove. It's got that bounce Yeah, you know, it's got that that kick in there. Well, I think they made those those sounds

Specifically so people could rap over it, you know live music but a friend of mine the roots. Yeah Roots had some fucking great. I can't wait. You know what? I know this I feel like this is a perfect podcast to say it on I can't wait until Rock it comes back cuz like I feel like rock is slowly dying, bro. And I want it to stay alive forever. I can't wait till a good rock band come back out. And they feel like a three day grace or a crossfade. They feel like something like that.

Do I think this is cycles of things? I think if one killer band comes out now, a bunch will emerge. Yeah, because they made it cool again. Yeah. But not because they haven't been found. They're out right now. Probably. We just don't know who they are. Yes.

Yeah. There's another me coming around somewhere. Probably. There definitely is. Definitely. Yeah. You know, you just got to find, bro, like prisons? Prisons are filled up with some badass motherfuckers, bro

Of course, you know I'm saying I've met a lot of people I've seen a lot of people in pretty like like bro. They master that shit You know like you said like they're with it every day Twisting it pulling it yeah, I had shit taking it out like no distractions You know like bro. I know there's motherfuckers in there making fucking tattoo guns with nothing Yeah, like I'm doing amazing tattoos come on, bro. You've seen some I'm sure you've seen some some prison tattoos are insanely good Yeah, a lot of my dad's a prison. Here's a crazy

Some some dudes inside are so talented and because they have to be so ingenious To take like pens and you know and figure out a single needle at that. Yeah a spring to a pin Mm-hmm fucking toothbrush and a motor from something. Batteries. Yeah, like what the fuck? Fucking electric toothbrush. I'm trying to tell you, bro. That's some bad motherfuckers in there. All right, so my Tio Chui, he had me and my cousin Romeo in bars when we were like five

years old in Mexico. And like little border towns, Matamoros and things like that. And Laredo, Eagle Pass. I remember there was this Mexican, and he was from Mexico, and he was, I don't know if he was slow or simple minded or what, but there was something off about him, and he couldn't do a lot, but there was one thing he could do, and it was this old school boombox radio,

the speakers, all the keys, you know, like the square one, old school ones, and fucking, he would bust that motherfucker down to springs and screws and fucking put it back together. Wow. Bro, like bust that shit down to like springs, bro, like I don't even know, like just like whatever, like to the smallest piece and then put that shit back together. Shit was sick. Yeah, there's mechanics out there.

Yeah, some people were just, some people like they even if they don't know how to do Anything else like that right there. Yeah, that's what he knows. They get obsessed with it. Yes. That's a part numbers and shit Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, they know where the gaskets go That OCD stuff like I've seen somebody open a door and they'll open and shut it open and shut it open and shut it and they Walk through. Yeah, is that some form of throw throw it off? Yeah, that's throw it off. Definitely, right? Yeah, 100%. They wash their hands like 15 times in a row.

They can't stop. That's crazy. Some people have to touch a door three times before they go through it. Yeah. I feel like I have to do this, but I've done this as a kid though. Especially now.

Touching your fingers? No, like doing that with your nails? Yeah, I don't know why. It's just a tick. It's just a thing you like to do. OCD is a disease. That's a mental health disease. Yeah, I know people who've had it.

They made something called Snapchat syndrome. Did you see that? What's that? That's fucking stupid. That's in the dictionary now. So there are people, like, they're going to get surgery to look like these filters. Oh. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's crazy, bro. Yeah. You're really only supposed to, like, God made you to give a fuck about what your family thinks and you're meeting like your cousin, your brother, your grandma, your thea. Even once like it's your third cousin, fuck them. Snapchat Dysmorphia, a body image disorder characterized by the need to heavily edit one's own digital image.

At its most severe, the disorder may cause people to seek out cosmetic procedures in order to replicate the altered images they present online. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill, bro. That's sick as fuck. Well that is one thing that's happening with social media. It's twisting people's ideas of what's real. Yeah, bro.

And I don't know about y'all, but to me, there's such thing as too much. But the women from 2003, you know what I'm saying? Who was it? Paris Hilton that made it fucking cute to wear the jeans like below her Waist mm-hmm those type of women like Jennifer Hansen Like that oh my god, bro. Yes, that's your one. Holy fuck. Yeah, I still get her pregnant till this day Yeah, might be hard. She's like 50 Bro, but I mean probably no eggs left. She's a bad motherfucker. I bet she got a few in there

For real But I mean probably no eggs left. She's a bad motherfucker. I bet she got a few in there That's a bad motherfucker right there like four months later. We hear you got her pregnant She reaches out. We're gonna. Hope we're gonna wish for the best. She loves your music She's just bored with life and dating these dopey white dudes dude just decides to step up She's just bored with life and dating these dopey white dudes dude just decides to step up fuck man I mean shit, you know, I'm real Mexican rap. There's her. Whoo, bro. That's what I'm saying like bro. Damn Well, why you pick the one with the dudes? Yeah, why did you? But in there other naked one, how about that one right there where she's the boobs the blue the blue one But I look at her. How about that blue on the far right right next to that? Yeah, that's not real. Oh, that's not real

Damn looks good though. Yeah She look good even with age oh that's friends. That's like that's her that's prime. That's like You crazy Shit sick. Yeah, well dudes fell in love with her on TV. Fuck, dude, it's easy. Like, man, look at her, bro. It's gotta be a weird world walking around where everybody wants to fuck you.

Maybe. Maybe. Definitely. Think so? 100%. Yeah, maybe. Imagine just being a regular hot woman. Yeah.

Everywhere you go, people are bullshitting you. Yeah, you know what, I agree, bro, because there was a few days ago, I was at a show, and these girls were like, oh, they were whistling. I felt like one smacked me in my ass when I was, like imagine a group of girls leaning against the wall like this, all thugged out and shit, and I just walked past and they're all harassing me.

I'm like, oh my god, is this what girls feel like? Makes me never wanna do it again. Yeah, it's even worse. I've been hit on by guys I used to work out at a gay gym There was a gym on cold way. Yeah, well when I did news radio the second Why the gay gym because it was I didn't know was gay It was just a gold's gym, but it was all gay clientele because it was a gay neighborhood Wow, so it was close to the studio. So I could go during my lunch break.

Hey, Joe. I get to work with bros. No, no, no, no, no. They weren't like, hey. They were like, hey, what's up? Oh, fuck. They were like hard, hard gay dudes with fucking Timbalands on and mustaches. And they were all like spotting each other and they all wore the shortest of shorts.

It was wild. Oh, shit. Pink tank tops. These dudes were men. It was like a gay disco. You ever seen gay disco? Bro, I'm not kidding man, it was like a gay, I was one of maybe three or four straight men

in that whole building. What the fuck am I doing? The women, the women were like, they were like a mirage. They would walk through, no dude even noticed them. Wow. The women, they must've loved it. Women could just work out there and get no attention,

but dudes would try to spot you for no reason you spot bro Daggle their nuts over your head like hey, man. I'm good Balls of fury it's a it's a ping-pong movie no Fucking sex slaves, and then he was like But it's balls of your there were fucking sex slaves, and then he was like Nah, he was like I shouldn't he was like you know what I'll do it fuck it Well you know here comes the sex slaves, and it's like six foot five dude swore as fuck I imagine exactly what you're saying right now Look at this shit. Oh

Yeah, it's homeboy hit the bar door wadda. Oh Christopher walking. Yeah, that's how he talks That guy's great. Chris is fucking great and everything. It's a ping pong movie George Oh shit, what move? What year was this like oh seven? Yeah. Oh wow Fucking ping pong movie. That's hilarious home bad Oswald oh This is hilarious now. You definitely have to watch it. I feel like they don't make movies like this no more man. Oh She's another one when I saw her I was like man It's hard to make a comedy now because everyone's scared to offend anybody

Yeah, everybody lives in their fucking emotions like who gives a fuck no you order this vato it only burns for a little bit man You know I'm saying well with comedy. They're just worried about Getting protest South Park is still a thing that's all out the window but South Park has got the ultimate cheat code what it's a cartoon and they don't look at all like people and you can have them doing wild shit you could have them die you're gonna like oh they killed Kenny you bastards what you could you could have people stuff people up their asses remember when that teacher stuffed Paris Hilton up his ass no but I remember when he put the gerbil in his ass

South Park is the ultimate Jesus and Hitler fuck. Yeah, they did. Holy shit. Yeah, bro He stuffed Paris Hilton up his ass to win the whole off He stuffed Paris Hilton up his ass to win the ho-off. Holy shit, keistered her. Right up to the shoes. Jesus. Yeah. What would you do if you came in here and you seen fucking this tall ass motherfucker

and you just see his feet hanging out dangling from the ass. I would be very confused. Would you help? Yeah, I would help him for sure. I would have to. Would you fight him and then pull him out or would you try to pull him? I would shoot him. Shoot him. Yeah, I'd help him for sure. I would have to. Would you fight him and then pull him out, or would you try to pull him? I would shoot him.

Shoot him? Yeah, you shoot him. The guy can stuff a man up his ass. You have to shoot that guy. Yeah, definitely. You have to shoot him in the head, otherwise you're gonna hurt your friend, because your friend's stuffed in his body cavity.

I was just thinking that. Yeah, imagine I shot him in the chest and I killed Jamie. No, Jamie. No. You have to shoot him in the head. They killed Jamie. They killed Jamie. And then you'd have to get people to help you,

and you have to put your feet on his ass. Oh, fuck. Are you doing the mouth-to-mouth on me afterwards? I think I'm gonna have to. I love you. I love you. You're my friend. I'm not gonna let you die.

Dude, my dad was like two elbows deep in a cow one time trying to help it get birthed. Wow. Yeah, that's what I thought of when you said that. Yeah, when they get in there, man, they get in there. They're pulling babies out and shit. It's a rough world, but that's how people lived forever. Yeah, I know I had a buddy He was like 14 years old and he was already for a living neutering bulls. Jesus. Yeah I was like you're a bad motherfucker. Yo, he was showing me videos snipping the balls and spraying it with some purple spray. He's like

I like that dig. Hey, you gonna fuck you up. How do they do that? Are the bulls contained? You know? Yeah He's like, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Oh, have you ever had them? Yeah, they're good. Mm-hmm. It's not something I would order. Is it fat? Yeah It's like mushy meat Yeah, it's a meat. It's like an organ meat, you know, like do you organs? I don't think so I eat liver. I eat a lot of liver. I think I've had liver. I had liver for breakfast really Yeah, elk liver for breakfast. I saw that Elky knocked down out there. I was sick. Yeah, that's what I'd mostly eat But yeah, yeah. Yeah. No shit. Yeah, it's really good for you and it's wild protein You don't have to worry about any hormones or bullshit, but take Spencer right? I don't need a catch it. Yeah, no I go get it. Yeah, I go out there in them in the mountains

That's one thing cuz I hunt I'll have I'll take you to oh you're gonna taste this. I'll bring you back over there where I'm at. We'll be in a helicopter shooting pigs, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I've been invited to do that, but my problem with that is that I don't think they eat those pigs. No, we don't. We just leave them there.

Yeah. Is that a problem with you? No, it's not a problem because it has to be done. Yes. It does have to be done. You can't do that to deers, though. You can't do that to anything else. They do it in other countries.

No, that's fucked. They do it in Australia and in New Zealand because they get overpopulated so they start gunning them down with helicopters. Yeah, see I got like a fat ass AR, you know what I'm saying? I blow these motherfuckers down but bro, seeing you and watching you, what you do, I've wanted to get on a bow now. For the longest. But you gotta be a bad motherfucker though, bro.

It's a lot of discipline. Like, when I think of the bow and arrow and I see you hit that How you look like a fucking Viking bro? I've been doing it a long time. Yeah, I've been doing archery for 12 years now. Oh shit Yeah, and I do it, you know, I've got a little bit I had you right now No, I've done I got a little bit of a tendonitis in my neck when it like flares up when I'm at full draw. So I haven't shot at all for a month. So for one month, I've just been like walking around my house, going like this.

Because usually it's a part of like every day. Every day, I get in front of that target, shoot at least 100 arrows. Damn, that's sick. It has to be a part of your muscle memory. Yeah. In order to be able to do it when you're under pressure, when you're hunting, you have to have ultimate confidence

in your ability, and even then, there's so much wild shit happening, animals moving, they're screaming at each other. You ever heard an elk scream? It's like, bleh! And when you're in the mountains and you hear that, it sounds like a insane a mythical creature

Yeah, doesn't even sound like a real animal when they come as beautiful. Sometimes you're on a trail and you're hiding Wow, yeah and When it's like right up next to you like this times where you're like in the woods hiding You're hiding behind a tree and these motherfuckers are walking through the trail. So he's doing this 30 feet from you, 40 feet from you. And you're trying to find when you can pull your bow back. Like you hear him walking but you don't want him to see you so you're like you gotta stay totally still and wait till he turns his head away and then you're at full draw and they're screaming, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr You have to eat a lot of food, you have to drink a lot of water and electrolytes, so you got to be ready. You can get dehydrated out there easy.

Yeah, I believe it. You get worn the fuck out. And then I'm sure you're going somewhere higher. You know what I'm saying? Now you got less oxygen and all that shit. Oh, we're at like 8,000 feet most of the time. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, dude.

Well, the elk, they don't want to be around you. They want to hide up in the place where it's tough to get. Makes sense. What about a ram? I've always wanted to catch a ram. I've never done that, but they're beautiful. Yeah. Honestly, bro, I don't even think I want to catch one.

I've always thought rams were my spirit animal. Really? Rams? Yeah. They just mind their business and stay the fuck out of the way. You know what I'm saying? They go and do what they got to do, bring it back, and then, bro, they just look handsome. And they headbutt each other.

Yes, I'm saying. But you know Busta Rhymes, of course, right? Yeah, sure. The break your neck music video when he fucking headbutted the Ram. I met Busta when I fucking met him, I brought that up and he went into full on character mode. Ah, that's amazing.

Yeah, nah, shit, shout out Busta. Cause like I've met some people, and I was like, you know, that I was fans of them, I'm like, ah, bitch, you ain't shit, ho. Oh really? Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, yeah. That's a bummer. Yeah, yeah, ah, bitch, you ain't shit, ho. You know? Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, that sucks.

Yeah, yeah. That's a bummer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's also another thing. I'm grateful that you're you, you know what I'm saying? Cause I'm enjoying this. There's some people, like I said, I met them, and I'm like, man, you a ho-ass motherfucker, bro.

That sucks. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying, like Bust, when I met Bust, I was like, damn, like, he's the hero I thought he was. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice when you meet somebody

and they live up to your expectations. Correct. It is a bummer when they don't. Yeah. Like, I hope Adam Sandler is that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice when you meet somebody they live up to your expectations Great. It is a bummer when they don't yeah, I like I hope Adam Sandler's who I think oh he is Yeah, I know him well. I love yeah, he's great. You know why I love Adam Why cuz he put all his boys on and those motherfuckers ran with that shit. Yeah, that's true, bro And he funny, you know I'm saying like bro. He got happy Gilmore. He got my brother. He got some shit Yeah, the longest yard when he read that one like bro. He got some shit. Yeah Motherfucking the Zohan this don't mess with the zone Movie bro, yes a great and you couldn't make that movie today. He fucked everybody remember

Yeah, he was a hairdresser. He was fucking all those those ladies fuck the old lady. I fucked all those old ladies Got their hair done it came out off fuck that movie was amazing It was man homegirl that he that he was falling in love with so that's another one. I put her next to Jennifer Oh, yeah, she's hot as fuck. Yeah He's exactly who you would hope he'd be that's beautiful He's cool as fuck to hang out with. That makes me happy. Real chill, down to earth. Does he smoke?

I don't think so. Man, I know. It's crazy, right? Like he's got a total stoner's sense of humor. Right, and I've always been a fan of Will Ferrell too and I've always told myself like if there's anybody that smoke with it, it'd be Will Ferrell or Adam. Yeah.

I met Will Ferrell once too. He was cool. I did an audition with him. Yeah, he was very cool. Real friendly. Yeah. Nice. It was before he was Will Ferrell, you know, it was like this is the 90s. Oh, so now he's a big nothing No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. No indication. He seems like a nice guy. See yeah He but he was a very nice guy then real friendly. I was like, no, that's Will Ferrell Yeah, I think he was still on Saturday live at the time. Yeah, you remember in living color. Oh, yeah

Jim Carrey was on that shit, bro. Oh, man. That was my shit. I forgot how good that's good. That's another thing you couldn't make today. Yeah, the Boondocks is another one I love the Boondocks. Boondocks is great. Yeah, I met Sway when I met Sway. I was like, bro, you were on fucking Boondocks Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I forgot about Boondocks. That was my shit, bro Yeah I used to I used to freestyle over that beat all the time as a kid the intro the instrumental and the outro Oh, wow. Yep. Yep. Yep. I was big on that shit What was the first like people that you work with where they started like making beats for you?

My boy TB Robbie, he my miss can out there in San Antonio. He definitely still is like one of my in-house producers I love I Love still working with him. I haven't used a beef. I got a beat from a few days ago the music video I dropped tomorrow's his beat but lately I've been fucking with bankroll. Got it. It's two white boys out in, California And those two white boys are my pocket. Yeah, they my pocket. Yeah And those two white boys are my pocket. Yeah. They my pocket. Yeah.

When you do that, what is the process like? Do you have the lyrics in your head and written down and then you have a beat and you go. I hear the beat first. You hear the beat first. Yeah, I don't ever really like to write the lyrics first. I like hearing the beat first. Really?

Yeah, and then I just catch it from there. So like, it very, very rare I'll have lyrics and then a beat. You know what I'm saying? Like I have to have something heavy on my mind. Other than that, man, I'm jamming the beats first. So did they bring you beats? And you say, hey, what do you got for me? And then you go shopping?

I just text them. Yeah, I just text them, send me beats. And they'll send me like a fucking fat ass fuckload Really? Yeah, and I know they're good bro cuz I'm picky with beats like I've had people send me a beat pack of like 50 And I left with one or two Bankroll they'll send me like ten and I'll leave with eight and so what is your process for listening to them? You do it by yourself. Do you sit there just alone like how do you do it?

It's always different like sometimes I'm by myself sometimes you know saying my boys are with me I like being in my truck when I write sometimes, you know, I just be smoking hot boxing in my truck Just catching that vibe, you know saying if you got a good sound system in your car. Yeah, I do There's something about driving and listening to music that makes it even more fun Cuz you're heightened because you're driving so you got to pay attention to everything So your brain is kind of fired up and that music comes on your own shit. Yeah exactly.

Yeah exactly. Because you're in a box of it. You know like it has nowhere else to go. You know I think that's what it is. I was telling the Black Keys when I would go to the comedy store one of my favorite things to do. Please tell them they missed you know Tia is like an enormous fan. I 100% will I'm gonna see him tonight.

Or see him tomorrow night. I 100% will. I'm going to see him tonight. Thank you. Or see him tomorrow night. I listen to Sinister Kid. Sinister Kid was like the song that I would listen to when I get on the highway. Yeah. Because it's just like, woo, like I'm living in LA. I'm driving to the comedy store. Yeah.

Let's fucking go when that song is on. Yeah, nah, dig it. When you got a good sound system, here it is. Yeah. Dog, they just dig it. It's when you got a good sound system here it is yeah They just got it god damn We probably get a copyright for that I'll cut it out just cut it out all right We cut that out, but that's sinister kid that fucking song rules man. Their shit is just all Authentic yeah, they have a new album coming out in April. Holy shit is it good wow? I got an early copy of it. They let me listen to it fuck dude I love to

send you this new shit I've been working on I want it like I said I want to name it recess I like it yeah why recess cuz like bro like man this is recess to me I go out there and just just be a kid you know I'm saying I think that's why it's still so fun yeah well if you can keep it fun, that's the key to life. Yeah, correct. That is the key to life. My dad always, because my dad's a trainer, he's been a trainer his whole life. I ain't gonna lie, he knows a lot, but there's one thing that motherfuckin' knows, he knows

the human body. And um... I lost it. Where was I going? Your dad was a trainer. Oh yeah. I Lost it what was I going your dad was a trainer. Oh, yeah I had a rate curse while flashback right there Yeah He would always tell people like man like working out ain't even working out like you stop working out one day when you just stop Going to recess You know I'm saying right and I think that's another reason why I really like the word recess for the project because like my dad even preached that shit

Like just be a kid like it's all working out is at the at the playground having fun You know they found out that that's the best way people learn things is working out playing. Oh playing. Yeah, I completely agree Yeah, yeah, that's a pure moment. Are you just having fun? You know? Mm-hmm I was I was watching this video with this this guy was breaking down martial arts development and Learning how to strike and he was like the most important thing is to keep it playful And if you can keep it playful you'll develop skills much quicker than if you're tense Like if you if it's like scary and work and everything like that it's harder to develop those really finely honed skills

Great and the best way to develop them is to learn how to play Correct so like the the Gracie's the jiu-jitsu guys they were always that was their thing They would always say keep it playful keep it playful when you roll don't that's up Don't try to kill each other just keep it playful keep it playful And then you'll develop skills and if you have to do it quickly you'll know how to do it Yeah, like if you really are in a real struggle real fight. And if you have to do it quickly, you'll know how to do it. Like if you really are in a real struggle, a real fight, you'll know how to do it. But you don't have to do that every day.

Keep it playful, learn the moves, learn the positions. Just get it in your head that it's fun. And there's a mindset, a play mindset, when you're really enjoying it, where you get better at things. My dad had a buddy, he was a Jiu Jitsu artist, or fighter, I don't know if you'd call it artist. Martial artist, yeah.

And bro, seeing him, he was a white boy, a jiu-jitsu artist or fighter. I don't know if you'd call it artist. You'd call it martial artist. Yeah. And bro, seeing him, he was a white boy, and seeing him do the way I seen him do these dudes up, man, that shit's humbling. That's some bad mother fucker. There's levels of this shit is what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

The way, because it's different when you, of course, it's easy to have control. Not easy, but some people make it look easy having control of their own body But to be able to have control of somebody else's body too, you know saying it's like damn, bro I've seen this motherfucker ragdoll people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and like he just like he'll move him with his leg Like he'll grab him by the like their shirt right here and move him with his right leg and like fucking trip them It's just crazy, bro. Yeah. Yeah. No, I like that shit though, man. Yeah.

Learning how to manipulate a human body is a very underrated skill. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good thing to know. Yeah, for sure. It's a scary thing to know once you know how to do it. It's scary when you've experienced it on you and you don't know how to do it. That was a wake up call for me when I first started doing jujitsu. I thought I knew how to fight and got fucked up.

Oh my God. I got fucked up. I got fucked up. Oh my God, I got fucked up. I got fucked up over and over and over again. It was so humbling. Yeah. It was so humbling. I had a buddy named Emeril, rest in peace Emeril, man that's crazy.

Fucking, he went to Little Rock, Arkansas, and he went to a gym over there, and he said the first day he went in there and he was just fucking throwing up, and he said as soon as he threw up everybody in the gym was like, yeah, fucking get him. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, bro, you just some fucking animals in there.

They went through it already, yeah. Yeah, for sure. They're unusual people. If you go to a gym and you meet a dude, he's a black belt, he's been doing jujitsu for 12 years. Bad motherfucker. That's a bad motherfucker. That dude's put in some numbers.

My buddy Drody, he's always saying he knows jujitsu I mean that's that dudes put in some numbers my buddy drody. He fucking He's like he's always saying he knows jujitsu in taekwondo and cuz his son he put his kids in taekwondo So fucking he you know he went to class one day for one week And after that he was like like one day. I was like man. I don't know my guns head I didn't find my gun cuz I don't know where without my gun. I'm in church with my gun and He was like man. Don't worry. You know I taekwondo and master Lee taught me some shit today Of course you don't know shit, but he just being funny, you know Like nah fuck that shit. Yeah, it's always better to have a gun. He's a tall lanky ass man. He tall for no reason Tall for no reason. I'm talking about bro. He walk and you just look at his legs and they just look flimsy.

Like, Jordan, you outta there. Tall for no reason. If I was him, bro, if I was as tall as him, I'd be an animal. Animal. It would make me wanna be a beast, you know? Remember I was telling you about Fatboy early? And he was talking about my mama?

He's gay, but like, bro, six foot five, and just like, you see him, you think he a solid ass gangster. I bet's gay but like bro six foot five and just like you see him You think he's a solid-ass gangster. I bet he worked out that gym. I worked out it. Yeah Shout out bad boy, man. He's a bad motherfucker. Yeah, no, but yeah, I Feel like I feel like a lot of gay people. I've seen some gay people put them some hands on some people Of course their men. Yeah. Yeah, but besides that, I feel like they were bullied, you know what I'm saying? So like they had to like, bitch I'm gonna fuck you up.

Exactly. You know? Yeah, you don't want to get fucked up by a dude with a lisp. He just put it on you. Like this motherfucker. Beat your ass. Stars. You see it's stars.

Holy shit. His leg kicking you, you're like, oh no. You think he pissed on you, he talking to you with a lisp. Fucking, I always thought it was funny whenever Canelo learned English, he learned English and became a menace. At first he was like, you know, I'm going to punch him, and I'm going to punch him again. Now he's like, fuck that motherfucker, fuck that bitch.

I'm like, damn bro, he's a savage. But like- He's a wild dude. Yeah, even Sean O'Malley, I just watched that fight with him. I'm like, bro, there's some bad motherfuckers on earth. There are some bad motherfuckers on earth. I feel like they need to be in the military. It's different, those are bad motherfuckers too,

but it's a different world. Different type of being a bad motherfucker. There's one thing to do it for a sport, it's a dangerous sport. There's another thing to do it in defense of your country and that is a lot more intense Yeah, I definitely agree but I mean shit that I feel like I've seen some motherfuckers in the military and like I seen them Cry, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Like this dude just yelled at you and you tripping on that You know cuz they're emotional. Yeah want to do well

Those are the kind of guys you want not to do well so much. No, no, so you're saying they're a crime because they're emotional. You want to do well. Those are the kind of guys you want wanting to do well so much. No. No, so you're saying they were crying because they were broken down? Yeah, just pushes. Like, bro, fucking me. You know what I'm saying? That's a nuts thing, bro.

Like, don't get it twisted. Like, what you're saying, I completely agree. Then there's some people and it's like, why are you on infantry? Well, they probably did it because they thought they wanted something to toughen them up. There's a lot of people like that. They feel like they don't have any discipline. They'll just join the military

I felt like that when I was 18 really You know when I was 18 the army had a taekwondo team and I was gonna join the army taekwondo team Because I wanted to be able to train and in the army they they had it like a Legitimate organized team that they would send to tournaments. There was this dude clay barber He fought for the US Army team They had a legitimate organized team that they would send to tournaments. There was this dude, Clay Barber, he fought for the US Army team, and I remember he was real good, like one of the top guys in the country.

And I wanted to be like him. And I was like, oh, this dude's in the Army, maybe I'll join the Army. And then I talked to a recruiter, I'm like, get the fuck out of here. What are you talking about? And also, just because you're a state champion or won the US Open, whatever I had won at the time,

I'd won a bunch of tournaments. There was no guarantee that they were gonna have me compete for the Army's team, and then they might just fucking send me to Iraq. I didn't know where I was going. And I was like, this is not, I don't like this. Can you help me find this book, I believe it's called Through the Bob Wire,

Through Bob Wire, it's about this dude, he's from Belgium. And as a kid, he had heart problems, he had asthma, all this stuff that would just hold him back for everything, like being able to just go outside and have fun. And when he was like seven, eight years old, it just all disappeared. And he went into Taekwondo or karate or something,

and eventually that one thing led to another, he's in fucking bangkok fighting underground fighters And bro there was this there was it's and it's him It's a book about his life and he's fighting this dude taller than him And he says he was like he didn't know how to dominate this man. He's just a giant ass motherfucker He said he jumped up on the back of him fucking bit him on the side of his neck And he said he fucking shoved his hand in that hole where he bit and fucking ripped his neck. Jesus Christ. Yeah, underground Bangkok fight Belgium dude. Probably like 5'8".

There's a bunch of people that are doing that shit now and you can find videos of it online. They're having these street fights where they'll pay people more money if you bite a chunk off the dude. So dudes are biting chunks off dudes ears and faces and shit. Yeah, but this was then, know I'm saying like I'm saying It's still going on. Yeah, but I think he did this like to survive this wasn't about money like he had to win the fight You know yeah, yeah, I do believe that though I believe that there's places like I feel like there's places out right now that they just snatch people up And then they'll put them you ever seen the the movie Hostel? I think that's real.

Oh that's real. Yeah, we were talking about what they used to do, it's called Shanghai-ing someone. They used to take people and they would drug them and then they'd wake up on a boat and you had to go to work. They'd be sending you off to China. They'd send you off to Shanghai.

To work? Yeah, they would kidnap people and force them into slave labor. Holy shit Yeah, they called it Shanghai'd you get Shanghai'd listen to this this dude was smoking he was in a cabin with his buddy and Alaska somewhere where it's snowing and Him and his buddy were smoking he said this out because you know dreams like when you dream a dream is probably eight seconds long at most and

He said that fucking He was smoking with his buddy and he hit this weed and he just fell out boom hit the floor and when he woke up he was completely soaking wet and inside of a boat and These people were like bro. You okay? You good like you almost drowned. Are you good? He's like who the fuck are you I don't know the fuck y'all are you know I'm saying right and He was like bro. What are you talking about? I'm your best friend. This is your wife all this and that he was like, who the fuck are y'all? I don't know who the fuck y'all are. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, bro, what are you talking about? I'm your best friend, this is your wife, all this and that. He was like, bro, I don't know who the fuck y'all are, like at all. And then two years passed, three years passed,

and he's like, I still don't know who the fuck y'all are. I'm sorry. And five years passed, six years passed, and he's like, I don't know, I guess this is reality. Fuck it, I guess I was tripping maybe. And then eight years passed, six years passed, and he's like, I don't know, I guess this is reality, you know, fuck it. Like, I guess I was trippin' maybe. And then eight years passed, and one day he's just sittin' there and he fuckin' falls out,

and when he falls out he wakes up, and he wakes up in that cabin, and this homeboy was like, bro, are you good? You were out for like five seconds. Lived the whole eight years spangin' in five seconds. I have a friend of mine on a podcast He smoked salvia Wow he smoked salvia on a podcast and went into a dark hole And he said he lived a whole nother life. He lived another life. He had relationships He had jobs. Did he say he lived underwater DC lived underwater?

And then he came back. That's how crazy the mind is. And you see him coming back, he's like, What? What happened? And this was right here. What's that? When he was coming back, he was struggling to breathe air. Because he learned to breathe water. Underwater.

Yeah. What the fuck? But here's the thing. Here's the thing that sounds insane. It sounds insane, but this guy was saying that he was there for like months. Like six months. That he lived a life. He had relationships, he had jobs.

I believe it. And that was his life for six months, then all of a sudden he came back. I think there might be neighboring dimensions where time moves differently and you can access them through psychedelics. I think that's possible. What it's going on right now, we're just not tapped in. Exactly. I was talking to my buddy

Fee about this. He brought it up. He was like, it's going on right now. Yeah. You know, like those things you see, we're just not tapped into it. Yeah. Well, that's one of the big theories about aliens is that they're here all the time. Would you smack an alien down? No, it's not behind the barbed wire World War two US Marine captured North China 1941 no, no sir prison by the Japanese till 45. Holy shit. That sounds insane though, but that's not it Bob wire maybe it's he's a bald dude bald white man Shredded. Yeah, he's not big enough just lean and shredded. I think- He was a Purple Heart, right? Or no, not Purple Heart.

He was in the Europe military. Don't they purple sleeves or something like that? He was something, man. Fuck. There was a story where he dressed up like a woman. And because he's in the military, so they're all fucking these hoes out there in these lands and shit. He said that his boy was at this club, went to the restroom with one of the whores,

and he said he's in there forever. He's like, man, I'm gonna check on my boy, you know what I'm saying? And fucking, he goes in there, and he's like, hey, y'all good? Don't hear nothing. He sees a girl, and he said he just felt like something was off.

And he said he fucking kicked that door and started beating the shit out the bitch, because she had a fucking, a knife to his balls, and was like robbing him, like bitch, I'm finished right now. You know what I'm saying? Went in there and was like robbing him like, bitch, I'm finished with you. You know what I'm saying? Went in there and beat the shit out the bitch, you know? There was another story, he fucking.

How was he, he was dressed like a woman? So he dressed like a woman to get into the woman side? No, no, no, no, this, I accidentally switched stories. But this was, this is another one. He dressed up as a woman, he went to go save this other woman and like fucking dressed up as a woman to get into this place and like Fucking went ape shit like I don't it's been so long since I read the book You know I'm saying but we gotta find it bro gotta find it. He studied

I forgot what the I forgot what fight fighting style he trained in but like he fought like 20 people at once broken ribs I think a broken wrist and like he still had to fight all these dudes until it was up, you know And he went through fucking hell and back to ribs I think a broken wrist and like he still had to fight all these dudes until it was up, you know, and He went through fucking hell and back to to to all dressed like a woman Yeah, well, yeah, this is other shit, but he dressed up as a woman to go save this other bitch. Wow Yeah, he did some shit bro, like real-life superhero shit like like main character shit Well, so what was the name of something barbed wire something barbed wire or through the was something with wire through the wire barbed wire Something man, my number is name. I don't my dad brought the book home. I read it like a motherfucker about that thing

It went too crazy Bad motherfucker. He had some different humans out there, bro. I'm talking about like really built to last Yeah, people are they're just wired different. Yeah, and they get more wired different through last. Yeah, built to last. People are just wired different. Yeah. And they get more wired different through training. Yeah. I'll be hearing Tyson talk about all those warriors that he studied.

Bro, some of them, they fell into my algorithm, and I just started learning about them. Yeah, they're some bad motherfuckers. I think you were talking to a dude that he fucking had blades and shoved them in his arm or some shit like that. Weren't you talking to a dude that like he fucking had blades and like shoved them in his arm or some Shit like that What you talking to do this at that? He shoved him as long like he had blades in his arms and like he fucking came back and killed everybody like they cut his

Arms off and killed this family or some shit like I don't know about that. What is that? Do you know we're talking about? I don't know. Nah now this dude is a real warrior Or at least that's what y'all were talking about Yeah Who was it was it the Chris Williamson one? I don't know y'all were talking about warriors though. Hmm. I Don't know. I don't know either He replaced his arm with a sword Yeah, I remember this sort of. I remember pulling it up.

He replaced his arm with a sword. Yeah, I gotta figure. Both of them. It cut both of his hands off. Jesus Christ. He looked like Baraka. Yep, here we go. Oh, you got it?

I found the clip of us talking about it. Okay. With, let me see, yeah, here. Yeah. Oh, Corey Sanhagan. I forget everything after a month of learning something, but one of the warriors was this Aztec dude he got captured by the other team they took him they cut off his hands to like try to like make him miserable for his entire

life they sent him back to his camp this guy like glues on knives onto his hands and then just commits the rest of his life to just like win all of these people that like did that according to legend after his right hand was cut off by the Spanish Galvarino boldly held up his left hand Offering up for his captives to amputate he displayed no emotion as it was cut off and his facial features recorded No pain and because that's like the type of dude that I was trying to like the tongue sometimes That's what I feel like I'm watching you on right now Well, you are this is crazy, but there TV. Right. That's Corey Sanhagen.

He's a bad motherfucker himself. He's one of the best UFC fighters. He's a bantamweight top contender. Bro, Benavidez, I've been watching him a lot. Damn, Benavidez. Oh my goodness. It's Canelo and Benavidez gonna get together? From what I don't know,

cause I don't have too much knowledge of it. From what I've been hearing, he been running, Canelo been running. He's gotta fight Benavidez. Yeah, but I don't think he won't fuck his record up You know Benavides is a body snatcher. Bro that motherfucker's a body snatcher. Bro like nah, he takes souls Yeah, nah, he takes souls different bro. He's different and he miske. Yeah, he's a bad dude. I love that shit bro He's a bad dude. He's a bad dude and he's relentless that motherfucker's relentless

You know like his last fight Who'd he fight his last fight? He fought even Tyson was saying he's an animal did he didn't he fight Charlo He fought one of the Charlo brothers, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, just beat him down. He's an animal. Yeah, he's something special There's there's dudes that come along with their what David Goggins likes to say Uncommon amongst uncommon men. Mm-hmm. That's Benavides. Yeah, he has to fight Canelo dad That would be a trap they and they can't wait like Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao did they can't wait until they're older They got to fight now prime and now's the time And I know Canelo has one more fight schedule.

He's got a fight schedule right now and people are mad at him because the May 4th fight, he's not, I mean that is the one, right? Mexican Independence Day, you're gonna fight on that weekend. Bro, you're supposed to be fighting. Benavidez. Benavidez, that's the fight. That's the fight everybody wants to see.

He running. I think that's what I've been hearing lately. Demetrius Andrade, that's who it was. That's right, that's right. Beat been hearing lately. Demetrius Andrade, that's who it was. That's right. That's right. Beat the dog shit out of his ass. That's right.

Canelo fought one of the Charlotte brothers. That's right. I'm sorry. Yeah. And Demetrius Andrade is a bad motherfucker and he was doing really well in the beginning of that fight because he's a real slick boxer, great mover, but- Harlan, Kevin Harlan. Kevin Harlan's a bad man too.

I forgot who he was. Did you see that fight? I met him. Michael Venom-Page this weekend though? No, but I thinklan, Kevin Harlan. Kevin Harlan's a bad man too. I followed him too. Did you see that fight with Michael Venom Page this weekend though? No, but I think I was at a show, but he walked out to my music. Oh, did he really? Yeah, he's been walking out to like Johnny Dango

or two or two and a half and shit. Oh, nice. And then I met him at the closet and you know, he was cool, so like. He's very cool. He's been on the podcast before. I wanna fuck with Brandon. I met Brandon Moreno at a fucking.

Oh, he's great. This is what made me love him, besides him being Mexican, but when I saw how small he was, I was like, what the fuck? Fights 125. And he will fuck anybody up in this airport right now. Like, what?

That shit was crazy to me. I was like, bro, I wanted to bow to him. You know what I'm saying? I was like, bro to bow to him. You know what I'm saying? I was like, bro, I respect you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. Shout out Brandon Miranda, man. That weight class is stacked, man.

God damn, that weight class. 125 is filled with assassins. Bro, because they just mean looking. Yeah, he's a cool dude, too. Real fucking friendly dude. Real nice guy. Those are the killers, though, the ones that, you know what fucking friendly dude. Yeah, nice guy Those are the killers though the ones that you know saying yeah, oh he had some fucking Incredible wars man with Davis and figurado. Yeah, the guy who beat for the title He's he's a you know that division is just filled with like super talented guys, bro, so so

from from when UFC started and started getting big to now, it's sick, right? There's no comparison. There's no sport like it where if you go to 1993 and watch it and to 2024 and watch it, it's completely different. Yeah.

They're so much better. Everyone's so much better. Oh yeah, cause like it's all mastered now at this point. Yeah, the sport's complete. There's so many different styles and they'll so many different approaches even amongst the champions there's so many different practitioners correct some guys are just strikers some guys are just grapplers and they all know how to do everything but they have styles and specials I used to I used to watch the the grappling fights and be like this is

bullshit but then when I fucking saw it in person, and I have a buddy that does it, I was like, oh yeah, nah, these are bad motherfuckers too. Well, if you tried it yourself, if you tried Jiu-Jitsu yourself. No, I got fucked up, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I got fucking humbled, quick, you know what I'm saying? But if you learn how to do it,

then you really appreciate it, because then you understand how difficult it is to do what they're doing. Yeah, oh, I understand that. And you also see the paths. You see like is he gonna go, oh he went for it. Oh shit. Oh look at that. Okay, he's got secured this. He's got that. Oh he moved him out. Oh, you know like you see the transitions and all the different chess moves that they're playing. Yeah, correct, correct. Yeah. You

remind me when you said the understanding. That's what I wanted to say earlier but we ended up talking about something else. The music shit, I just know of music. I don't know how to read music. I don't even know how to count bars. You know what I'm saying? I just know of it. Imagine if I fully understood it.

Why don't you? I'm going to eventually, you know what I'm saying? It's just not my time right now. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing what I'm doing and enjoying it. I definitely want to elevate though. When I understood that, I was like, bro, I just know of it. like I want to know this shit right oh

bro I'm gonna be an animal do you think you ever gonna get to a point where you create your own beats Yeah, for sure cuz like I used to do that as a kid like I used to be in the studio of my uncle moon already Just fucking around that would be wild. Yeah, your shit your zero zero did that like that's why bro Fuck zero zero they don't be giving him his flowers, bro. Not only was he making great music and harmonizing with dope-ass raw lyrics, he was making his beats. You know what I'm saying? And he was really delivering that shit, bro.

He had a swagger to him. Nobody wanted to fuck with him, and that's why it make him even more of a beast, because when nobody wanted to fuck with him, they had no choice but to fuck with him. It was why it make him even more of a beast Cause like when nobody wanted to fuck with him they had no choice but to fuck with him It was so in their face. It was so good. It became undeniable Exactly, and it was so good that if you didn't like it you were a dry ass hater You know I'm saying yeah, like you're just dry hating cuz like you know that shit good. Yeah, those are the saddest people Yeah, dry hater bro. Come on dry as hate I fuck was you a bro like

cuz he was making his beat he was doing all that shit bro nice no no no no no no no no no no no no this is more than one zero I'm talking about ZRO ZRO I'm talking about a Texas legend like when you think of Texas rappers. He's definitely on the Mount Rushmore That's gotta be weird with different to tell Z. R. O. There. He got meth crack heroin. Those are all his projects He's got a song called meth. No, these are projects out. Oh, that's the album the album's meth The next album is crack the other ones heroin other ones cocaine Wow Yeah, and it bro like Like he's he's Texas to pop people be tripping when I say I think he better than pop but like

Pocket yeah, of course pocket he he fucking Let's pause so I can pause this so I could hear some of it pause are you not hold on? This is the one to play. Which one to play? Play, uh, play, uh, play in my city. Man, there's so many, bro. There's just too many. In my city is a good one.

Cause I want you to hear him sing and rap. Let's hear this. They can't tell me Pac was better than Zero. Nobody can tell me Pac was better than Zero. I just added that to my playlist. Thank you. Yeah. And it gets me pop better than Zero. I just added that to my playlist. Thank you. Yeah. And it gets better.

It gets better. I just pulled this one out my ass because that's one of my favorite ones by him personally. But bro, nah, it gets better. All right, I'll listen to this shit. He got a song called Mo City Dawn and it was originally done by Raheem in New York. But I didn't even know that. I thought this was a Zero song. Raheem Eric being Raheem?

Yes. and he fucking Slow out and bang it so slab, you know, it slabs are correct. You're from Texas. Yes, right you from Texas No, Olivia. Where you from? Well, I was born in New Jersey. No shit. Yeah. Yeah, I lived in California I lived everywhere. I lived in Florida. What is it for you? What? Yeah, this is where I'm staying You seem like a taste is bored of me Thank you. Yeah, this is where I'm staying. You seem like a Tastes boy to me. Thank you. Yeah, so anyways, look. Bro, what was I saying?

Zero. Yeah, nah. Slabs. Yeah, slabs, slow, loud, and banging. That's what S-L-A-B stands for. And like, bro, we'd be at land parties in the country, mid-fight, people fighting, and that song come on, bro. White boys with mullets, the black boys, the medskins,

everybody singing, mid-fight. We stop fighting, we jammin'. Really? Like that's what Z-Row do to us. Wow. Real life. It's funny how some dudes like that, they just don't get out into the mainstream

for some reason, people don't know. He don't need to be mainstream, he's ours. Ooh. We're selfish with that shit. You know what I'm saying? There some reason. People don't know. He don't need to be mainstream. He's ours. Oh. We're selfish with that shit. You know what I'm saying? There's some people that don't, I was jamming that shit in New York and some people like, oh my God, what is this?

I'm like, it blows my mind. Y'all don't know, but that's okay. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm okay with being selfish with Zero because he a Texas legend. Like I said, he's on the Mount Rushmore for us. Like, you know what I'm saying? What's the Texas Mount Rushmore? us. Like, you know what I'm saying? What's the Texas Mount Rushmore?

You gotta have the ghetto boys in there. We're gonna put Scarface on there out of the ghetto boys. Yeah, for sure. I don't think you can put the full Scarface. I mean, it's the full ghetto boys though. That'd be a little unfair. Unfair? I think so. They were all bad motherfuckers though.

Definitely. Especially Willie D, cause he was backing that shit up. You know what I'm saying? But like, Scarface had the voice, he was cool at telling stories. Bushwick just had a look to him and he was also good at it. But even then, like I didn't, you know, you said Willie D wrote that shit for him. You know what I'm saying? Willie D wrote a lot of shit.

That's what I'm saying. He wrote most of the Get A Boy shit. Yeah. Yeah, see what I'm saying, bro. I don't think you can put Bush on there. I respect Bush, like shit, I name my dog after him. You know what I'm saying bro like You you I don't think you put Bush on there. I respect Bush like shit I need my dog after me know saying like I love Bush you know, but I Would definitely? They say scar even got Willie just cuz he got that voice. Mm-hmm. You know Sam. Yeah

Keith what wasn't there a fourth member to the ghetto boys right when the name Keith some shit like that. I know Jamie'll find it. Dude, we still haven't found that book. Fuck, that's gonna bother the fuck out of me, bro. Like, he's really a bad motherfucker. Someone will find it. Yeah, he will. Someone will find it and reach out.

He's a bad motherfucker, bro. I think they made a movie about his life too, if I'm not mistaken, because I remember reading, like, what is it called? On the end of the book on the the autobiography or whatever Like I said, they said something about a movie Mmm. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of movies that never get made. Yeah, they're in the process getting made it never happens Yeah, zero though, bro back to zero man. He's just a champion, bro

And and and people people be like Pac will he got that pain each bro? Nah, didn't nobody go through pain the way the way the way zero went through it losing his mama Nobody wanted to fuck with him. Nobody wanted to hand him the weed You know I'm saying like everybody loved pot cuz he was like he was a movie star like he was a Role model right zero was like really good a raw uncut. You know I'm saying from the streets Nobody want to fuck with him. You know I'm saying people hating on them You know I'm saying? People hating on him, you know what I'm saying? And like, I love it because he made the people have no choice but to love and respect his music

at one point, because it was just so in their face. You know what I'm saying? And me being Mexican, I'm playing a black predominant game. So like, I had to put it in their face. Same thing with Paul, he white, having to put it in their face. So when you come up like that, it's more respectable. You know what I'm saying?

I love that shit. It's undeniable. Correct. Like I said, Pac, he influenced the world, which is cool, but he wasn't making better music than Zero, in my personal opinion. Well, you're allowed to have your opinion. Yeah, correct. And it might also be just because I'm from Texas, that's what I grew up on.

Right, if you were growing up with Pac, you would have a different opinion. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. But I personally feel like, because he was singing, he was making music. You know what I'm saying? Pac was rapping, and then he'd have like a sample come

and sing. You know what I'm saying? And he wasn't making no beats. Right. Zero was putting that shit together. You know? I know what you're saying. Yeah.

I like that shit. Have you listened to Kanye's new shit? No, but to be honest, to be fair, though, I don't you're saying yeah like that shit. Have you listened to Kanye's new shit? No, but to be honest to be fair though. I haven't been listening to anything new I've been like so tunnel vision in my own shit. Yeah, you know if I'm jamming anything It's not rap like I'm jamming some three-day grace or some fucking Smack-guard, you know something like that makes it up in your head. Yeah You know, I don't want to listen to rap. I'm already surrounded by so much You know, right that makes sense and then I get out of that, you know, I really jam like rock and country I just happen to be good at rapping. You know I'm saying so most of the time when you're in your car rapping country

Rocking rock and country. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I don't know why bro I just like I've never never just emo never had an emo phase or nothing. I just love that music Yeah, love that's me with the 60s rock nothing. I just love that music. Yeah. Love that music. That's me with the 60s rock. Yeah. Like Hendrix. Yeah, I love Hendrix.

That's how I named this podcast, the Joe Rogan Experience. The Joe Rogan Experience, what the fuck? I even have the alien picking up the cow right there. You do. Yeah. What do you think about aliens? What do you think is going on with all that? I think they're in the water.

I think space is a distraction. I think NASA maybe used to be in the water and they seen something that scared the living shit out of them and they never wanted to go back. I don't know, we were talking to your homeboy outside, like I love the water. I think it's one of the most beautiful places ever. But if they threw me in the water,

I would die of heart failure before I died from an animal in there. One of my biggest fears. But it's also one of like something I've always wanted to do, because I think it's beautiful. But it's not our jungle. Right. No, you're so vulnerable. Yeah.

Like, get the fuck out of here, bro. You're so vulnerable. You're not even like, I mean, you are as vulnerable as a shark is on land. Correct. You can walk right up to a shark on land and go, bitch. Yeah, exactly. You can't do a thing. That shark fucking, with that jet speed coming,'s not even gonna eat you he just gonna fucking

you know run into you and knock your ass out or just take your legs yeah just takes your legs away from you like that yeah some people be trying to be like no scary movies made them like that yeah no those things are vicious I don't give a fuck what you're just not a lot of people in the water that's all it is yeah the number of people in the water is relatively small compared to the overall population That's why they're not killing that many people. Yeah, they kill somebody in Hawaii once a year. No shit Yeah, man, there's a guy just got got the other day the way you go hunting Do you like going fishing like that? Like would you go deep-sea fishing? Yeah, I go deep-sea fishing damn

I'm always one of the so so on my bucket list. I want to catch a swordfish Yeah, yes, I want I'm talking about I want to my bucket list. I want to catch a swordfish. Yeah. Yes I want I'm talking about I want to fight for that. I want to almost fall out the boat You know like I really want to fight. I want to earn that shit Fucking swordfish. I think that'd be badass. Yeah, that's a delicious fish, too That's a good one to catch you eat that fucker you eating that fucker for a year. Yeah. Yeah, it's like boots I love boots pericou fish. Yeah, it's my favorite Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's definitely my go-to for the skin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the pericou that does look badass

I've seen some dude here had one one of the guests had a pair of fish boots on Yeah, I was like those are fish. Yeah, you see the door was it did it look kind of like pineapple like yeah Like where the scales were yeah. Yeah, that's what it is. It's paracu fish. Wow. I like alligator. I like eel. There it is. Yep I got to yeah, I got I got both of those two you just clicked right there them brown ones and them black and white ones What is a paracu? What does that look like? Oh, let's look it up. I know it's a big-ass fish It must be big. I mean if the skin is so fucking thick you can make boots out of it. That's wild I mean, there's some fish skin boots were like it looked like scaly You know look at that fucker. Yeah, that's a big motherfucker. Whoa

What a crazy looking fish? You can't tell me it's not no damn alien. Well that is a dinosaur sir. Yeah Fish oh, bro. Paul try to tell me he don't believe in dinosaurs. Oh, that's hilarious Paul He just thinks it was bullshit like he thinks it was just like a conspiracy theory there is a whole conspiracy theories that dinosaurs didn't Exist yeah, I'm sure They're that fucking pockets still living in Greece right now. Yeah, that's a little more ridiculous Yeah, that actually is probably less ridiculous than dinosaurs not being real I mean what the fuck do you think those bones are like the idea that pocket is dead?

It's not likely but in a world Like if you decided to fake murder someone and that send that person to Spain and they live in Spain the problem is pox too famous It doesn't make sense. Everyone would see him somewhere. There's tourists everywhere. They'd be like, that guy looks exactly like Tupac. They'd take a picture of him, and then people would realize Tupac's still alive.

Great. So it's physically possible for Tupac to be alive, but extremely, extremely, extremely unlikely. It's not possible for dinosaurs. I mean, believe us, we still got crocodiles and turtles. It's not possible for dinosaurs to not be real. We know too much Yeah, we know we know like what year they died Yeah, I mean with these the carbon dating they know which animals lived 250 million years ago

Which animals lived 65 million years ago? They know all that. I'm a huge fan of rhinos I love rhinos and bro. They just the the black rhino one of them. I forgot which one it was just went extinct Yeah, bro. Yeah, those motherfuckers survived pangea. Mm-hmm survived fucking lava. They didn't survive bullets They couldn't survive humans. No people started using them for their horns the horns That's the point people were going out there and shaving the horns down so they wouldn't kill it still do that Yeah, like it still do that. Yeah, like fuck Yeah, they see they the the horns are very popular in Asia and they make like a tea out of them They it's supposed to give you hard-ons. No shit. I mean it probably doesn't even work

Yeah, it's probably just some old wives to appear those rhinos and honey pegs Like what the fuck are y'all doing taking those like some some countries? Rhinos and honeypeck like what the fuck are y'all doing taking those like some some countries there's groups of wealthy people that want to eat endangered animals and They they get off on it. They get off on the fact that they're they'll they'll have dinner and like eat a tiger steak Yeah, they get they get off on the fact that they're eating something that's forbidden and one of the things that they like to do is drink Rhino tea This is like very expensive very hard to get and they'll sit around drink rhino tea. Because it's like very expensive, very hard to get, and they'll sit around and drink rhino tea together.

Yeah, shark fin soup. Yeah, shark fin soup, yeah. That sucks. Yeah, it sucks for the shark. Yeah, it sucks for the whole thing. Like you're knocking these motherfuckers off for a fin. I know, it's pretty ridiculous. It's not even that good. Yeah, I had a shark fin soup when I was a kid.

It's okay, I get it. Liver is better. No. Liver is better for you, probably. But shark fin soup tastes pretty good, but it's like it's not... The way they do it is disgusting. They just chop the fucking... If they ate the fish...

Look, you can eat sharks. They're good. They taste good. Mako sharks delicious. But eat the whole thing. Yeah. But then people started getting crazy because they chopped the fins off shark. Like, you should never kill sharks

Like then you're gonna have an overpopulation of sharks great like there's places where they have an overpopulation Population of sharks and if you kill them people get mad at you like listen They're in Florida and Florida Keys that you're allowed to kill bull sharks. They those motherfuckers are everywhere Yeah, you ever see I watch these videos these dudes fishing in the Florida Keys because they fish off the piers and I watch these videos these dudes fishing in the Florida Keys because they fish off the piers and It's a race to get that fish to a net before shark hit kills it well the sharks are everywhere There's a giant bull sharks and bull sharks are the most aggressive and bull sharks live in freshwater So shark can swim upriver and get all the way to fucking, Illinois They've found bull sharks in the Mississippi River,

like deep, deep, deep into the country. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah. Well, you know Jaws? The movie Jaws? It was based on something that happened in New Jersey, in a freshwater river. Oh, shit. The sharks were in a freshwater river.

So these people would go swimming in the river, and these sharks started fucking these people up. Holy fuck, that sucks. In a river. Like you think, what's in the river and these sharks start fucking these people up. Oh Yeah, that's in a river. Yeah, like you think what's in that river trout salmon Nope sharks sharks made it all the way up into this freshwater and because I love Lake Travis that fucks me up Well, I think Lake Travis is okay. Yeah, you would have heard by now. Yeah, definitely Yeah, Lake Travis is not what you need to worry about. Where are the piranhas at? Which piranhas at? Brazil. The Amazon. Yeah, different parts of South America. Bro, fucking Andacondas?

Yeah. Andacondas are, I can't believe those are fucking real. You see the biggest one they just caught? No. They just found one that was 28 feet long. Bro. Yeah, there's a video of it. It's insane.

It's so fucking big. I have a friend of mine, Paul Rosalie, he lives in the Amazon. He does a lot of work and preserving the rainforest and He hopped on one and he said it was so big he couldn't get his arms around it 26 feet long it's so big couldn't get his arms around his arms around it Look at the size of this thing. Look how big this thing is and then I'm swimming next to it bitch You're crazy. Look at them. Look how big that fucking thing What's happening? Look at the size of that thing's head. I mean

That thing is just steady and everything it wants goats. There's a there's a snake I mean, there's a snake there's a video on YouTube of a fucking snake throwing up a kangaroo This guy's out of his fucking mind. Yeah, he's like look at it. Look at the size of that thing. I Get some pet or something slithering around under that water, and they can't even breathe water They're just under there They just use their legs use their their they use their their body to undulate. I'd be scared fucking shitless Yeah, they move pretty fucking fast to the squid to lead a squid one. Yeah, well There's giant squid You ever see that squid that they found they found it on

An oil rig they had a deep water camera on an oil rig and they're like what the fuck is this? It looks like an alien. It was a new species of squid. They'd never seen before that had like crab legs Yes, look at that thing. Yes What the fuck is that? It's an alien, that's what I'm trying to tell y'all, bro. They're not in space. I mean, look at that. If that was in space, you would 100% think that was an alien.

If we went to another planet and you saw that thing floating around the sky, you'd be like, oh my God, the magnificent alien, and everyone would want to study it. 2007? Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, 2007 they found that thing. Well, they've always known that giant squids were real, but I don't think they really caught them

on camera until like a decade or so ago. This was in the Gulf of Mexico? Oh, look at that one. That's in the, that's where I'm from. Magna Pina squid attack. Look at the fucking length of that thing. That's insane Look how long those tentacles go Jesus While they technically tentacles, what would you call them and look how thick they are long? They are look at the bottom one where the fuck is the end of that thing? Man, how long is that? What the fuck is that swimming in the bag? You said black dot? Yeah, what is that? What the fuck is that swimming in the back is that black dot? Yeah, what is that? No, bro, I'm saying this to be I would die of heart failure

Yeah, that's on the camera. I'd be terrified bro. Yeah, you should be terrified. Look at that thing. Do you think they sting? Oh, yeah, they must they do something. I mean there's got to be some reason that it has these long long Appendages, I don't know jellyfish are pretty that's true, too There's got to be some reason that it has these long appendages. I don't know, jellyfish are pretty... That's true too, but they still... Oh wow, look at it moving around. That's how it got out of there. Oh look at them, it's reaching out towards the camera. Look how close it got.

Wow. They touched the bottom of it, it looks like. Wow. Bro. It's an alien. And by the way, they only know what like is in... Look how fast is going yeah Crazy how I just guess there's so long because there's nothing down there in the second one of those tentacles touches something that thing is gone

That's seven thousand feet. Yeah, there's nothing there seven thousand feet below the ocean that thing lives Amazing deeper if you go deeper you catch the what's those fish that was on Nemo the fucking with the light oh Yeah, those crazy fish that live in the bottom that actually have illumination Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying Luminous ins they have bioluminescence so their body actually makes light Do you think eventually will be on Mars living yeah earth if human beings don't kill themselves Eventually, we'll figure out how to get to Mars and set up a colony.

Yeah, I think there's probably life on Mars at one point in time. Really? Yeah, they think Mars had a stable atmosphere, Mars had water. Yeah. Do you think that the moon landing was real? I don't know, I hope it's not.

Really? Yeah, it's more I hope it's not. Really? Yeah, it's more exciting if it was fake. Yeah, correct. It's more exciting to know that something so big could be faked and that that hoax could last for so long. Correct. Until they go back. Dude, I bet people would be fucked.

Yeah, it would be really rough if we found out that the moon landing was fake yeah and there's a Lot of people that think it's fake including a lot of people that have studied it There's a lot of people think it's real and a lot of people that know a lot about it the cameraman had to have been The first person not Neil right well I think they probably had a camera supposedly set up to capture Neil climbing out of the lunar rover the lunar lander But the fun part is that they faked it the fun The fun theory is that there was no way to get through the Van Allen radiation belts and that we were in a war with

Russia a cold war with Russia to who could get to the moon first and that we faked it It's that's a fun way to say it Because it's news stand for it news and news the word news. Yes, sir. Isn't that a acronym? What is it national and? entertainment So I know it's entertainment some entertainment Why do I keep seeing a dude right there with no clothes on? Oh, that's Elon Musk. That's this dude, Beeple. He's a digital artist.

He created this NFT, and it also has a digital art. It's like a gigachad. It's like super swole. Elon Musk wants AI allows you to edit your body. I seen this AI of Elon Musk, and he was like, notable events were, oh, what? Notable events, weather, and sports. That's what it is oh they don't agree I mean okay the world news has been claimed to be an acronym of the four cardinal directions

northeast with west and south however the old spelling of the words varied from newese, newis, any w-i-s, any v-i-s, any u-s. Huh. So what's the origin of the word then? It's not an acronym. Okay, people think news is an acronym, but it's not. Oh, okay. It's not. Oh, okay. It makes sense, it's like what's new? What's new? What's going on that's new? What does news mean?

It stands for a notable event. Oh, it says that. No, no, that says it's set. Verify. Yeah, no, it's not. Okay. Who should I trust for our... Collected new events as referred to news.

No, I think that's what it is. I think it's new events is an acronym see this is there okay no the claim that's Snopes okay I think it's just what's new that's crazy but people always make acronyms out of things you know yeah yeah Harry Harry Eve but the HUB yeah stupid here everything's better that's what HUB supposed-B is supposed to be. Yeah. Yeah.

People do that all the time with stuff. They also do it because it makes them sound more intelligent. Correct. You know? Pretend that this... Do you know what it really means? My cousin Romeo, that motherfucker, he'd be getting my stupid ass all the time, but he'll make words up and that motherfucker like, he just make it sound so real. He commits.

Bro, I'd be like, he just make it sound so real. He commits. Bro, I be like, oh yeah, he be making me think like, damn, I gotta buy a new part. You know what I'm saying? Fuck it Romeo, punk ass. I love that motherfucker, man. I love my family, bro. Well, one of the things I really like about you is how much you credit people

and how much you talk well about people. And you know, you're really interested in elevating people around you mm-hmm You know bro. I've been digging a dirt bro like I know what it's like to be nobody and loved by nobody You know I'm saying that shit. I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy. You know like It's good being lonely. I like being lonely. You know saying give you time to think you could fucking figure shit out You know I'm saying people are headaches sometimes too But being lonely is fuck that you know being lonely forever is the worst place to be yeah

Yeah, we need each other. That's what we were talking about earlier like to be the only person who's doing well. It's crazy You don't want to be that yeah, that's a terrible place to be yeah, and then you're surrounded by people are mad at you All I want to do is just make friends bro like every everywhere I go people love me But the because I come correct, you know saying I treat you good I make them feel people only start hating when they feel up excluded, right? You know saying but you give that motherfucker broom and tell him go sweep it. He gonna be happy That is true. People feel mad when they get excluded. They feel jealous and bitter and angry It's the walled garden

You know they see you having a good time over there, and they can't even be a part of that like fuck that dude Yeah, fuck those people because they associate their bad feelings of being rejected with you doing something to them You know I Was just one dude I seen back mom from and I was like man, what's up cuz he was just like dude I seen back where I'm from and I was like, man, what's up cuz? He was just like, what's up? I was like, bitch. I was like, man, I could really talk some shit to you, but then I'd be down bad because

you down bad. You know what I'm saying? But like, man, like I just tried to make him feel good. I was like, man, I love you, bro. I don't love that motherfucker at all. And matter of fact, I probably have hate towards him, but like, man, I love you, bro. I don't love that motherfucker at all and matter of fact I probably have hate towards them, but like man. I love you, bro Well you might change the way he thinks if you said that when you said that and said you I love you Maybe how to confront his own shit. How long is it being a dick that dude?

Yeah, like cool to me cuz because he's excluded. You know I'm saying right well. I love you, bro I really like it. Yeah, I don't even hate you. Nah, take it back. I don't think I hate nobody. I don't want to hate nobody. Yeah, you know, if you can get through your life without hating people, you'd be way better off. Yeah.

No, don't get it twisted. I got grudges. I got grudges since, like, the third grade. That's just me, though. But I don't think I hate nobody. I don't want to hate nobody. And you wish you probably didn't have those grudges. Yeah. It's a better way hate nobody. And you wish you probably didn't have those grudges. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

It's a better way to live. It is, bro. You can get through life with as little hate as possible. That's good, because that hate, what's that old expression? That hate is the only poison that affects the vessel that holds it? Yeah, I don't know what you're saying, but I know my bop, whenever my day arose past, you know, we were talking about it,

and he was like, she was just always mad. You know what I'm saying? Like, her anger is what drove her to the dirt. There's a lot of people that live life like that. It's a defense mechanism at first. You know, it's how you stay alive, it's how self-preservation, you stay angry, keep people away from you that are gonna hurt you.

Mark Twain once said, anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it's stored than anything on which it's poured. Perfect. Never solves any problem or worry, rather it makes us more stressful. 100%. 100%. Yeah, I do agree. Yeah, if you can get through life with no hate, no anger, you'll be way better off. My dad always said you're gonna bitch and moan about it, you're gonna fucking figure it out. I think that was my words of that, you know? Same thing too.

A lot of life is how you address a situation. You could decide that this situation is the end of your world and life sucks down, life falls apart, or you could say, okay, I learned from this. Yeah, correct, correct. I can get something out of this. It's the glass is half-full or half-empty. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Correct. I can get something out of this. It's the glasses, half-four, half-empty. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So where you at from here? Where you going? SPI, going to South Padre Island. That's what I'm saying. Like my shows, bro, like my fans spoiled me, bro.

Like it's cool performing at the rodeo. It's cool doing all this other stuff, but those aren't my shows. Right. When they're my shows and the crowd all yours it hit different yeah you know and like man like like I said bro it's a beautiful moment they they babied me you know that's awesome man mm-hmm I love my fans so South Padre Island is gonna be crazy and it's number Rasa out there you know number miskins out there they

finna go crazy nice well they treat me like I'm Michael Jackson, bro. Well, you're the fucking man right now. I'm trying, bro. It's exciting. I'm trying. It's an exciting time for you. And I feel like the beautiful part about my story is like, bro, I'm finna be here 20 plus years, you know?

I see myself being in this game forever because like, I just, besides the fact of me just not knowing what else to do, it just comes too natural You know like I was a fear. I always had a fear As a kid that I would eventually just stop having shit to talk about like I'm because I'm I might I'd be like bro How do people do it like they make new songs every day, right? I Was like 13 years old when I thought that I was like 13 years old when I thought that. You know what I'm saying?

Isn't that funny? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, bro, I just needed to live more. But that's every artist's fear. You run out of things to make, run out of things to say. And also sounding repetitive. That's another thing. Yes.

Yeah, that's always been a fear of mine. But like I said, it's recess, so I have no walls. Like I'll bounce everywhere. Well, that's a beautiful approach. How often are you touring? Every time I drop a project, I like bounce everywhere. Well that's a beautiful approach. How often are you touring? Every time I drop a project I like to tour. I mean I'm pretty much touring 24 fucking seven because I'm always booked you know what I'm saying.

Even when I'm not having a tour I got side shows and shit like that. But every time I drop a project I like to have a tour with it. You know what I'm saying. Like I just dropped this project March 1st. It's called Texas Technician and I probably work it for like a month or two and then once they have it all memorized and down boom I'm gonna jump on the road with them. Yep. That's it. So Texas Technician. I wanted to go with the CD just because like Like I Where I'm from like even riff raff being at sharps town, you know

I'm saying handing CDs out like check me out check me out. Check me out. Like that was the hustle of it. That was the beauty in it You know I'm saying and I feel like I wish that was still a thing Cuz like I hold pride in and hand and see these out, you know, I'm saying like That shit's cool, bro Especially cuz I don't look like I rap especially as as good as I do it, you know I'm saying so like when they see me and they're like man Fuck it like that one person just gonna happen to put it in and then he hears like what the fuck You know say you don't sound like you look. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so it fucks them up, you know, yeah

I like that hustle though, you know, like I guess it's a South side thing I think that's a part of our music culture though, you know, Texas, you know We're here to see these out and shit like that cuz we just hustlers. Yeah, you know, we don't gangbang We don't pop me. Yeah, there's gangbangers out here shit, but we're not politicking. We're not we're not worried about that bullshit We want money and pussy And you know, what's the best part about it? It's salt and pepper Yeah pussy make money take money it can save lives. It can take lives. There's been peace over pussy Oh, we'll give you three versions if you just don't fuck with us no more

Yeah, pussy make the world go around in a lot of ways in a fuckload of ways. It's a main motivation for men Mm-hmm. Yeah, at least the right ones. Yeah. Yeah How many wars have been started over pussy yeah, not correct, but like I said people die over pussy all the time Like bro, I don't fuck dudes bitches like some people do that shit. I don't do that shit, bro And if I have I'm fucking I'm sorry For real, I don't do this. Yeah, I'm ho as shit. Yeah, you know I'm saying like there's dudes You can't trust yeah, like a while ago. This is a long time ago I went to go fuck on this girl, and I don't you know I had a baby and all this shit and I was like, where your man at?

And she was like, oh he in chemo. And when I heard chemo, I know where he works, off the rip. Because in chemo there's nothing but plants, you know what I'm saying? Refinery, chemical, whatever it is. And I said, damn. I said, so he drive, wake up in the morning, three, four o'clock in the morning, drive two hours to a job I know he don't wanna do,

and then drive another two hours home to a bitch that ain't shit? Ho, I can't even fuck you. Wow. I can't even get my dick hard to fuck you. I walked out. Wow. Real life, bro.

I say it all like, man, if your man ain't shit and he not providing, I understand why you would wanna leave him, fuck him, you know? Yeah. But man, if you got a motherfucker that really putting in their work and you being a hoe like that, bitch, you ain't shit. We don't even have good hoes no more,

cause I respect hoes and good sluts. You know what I'm saying? I respect strippers I respect any woman. They get up and get it. You know I'm saying they don't even they not even good Hoes no more Can't even find a good hole. You know I'm saying like these bitches are outplayed They're all they're all in the internet and all that extra shit. They they're looking at something They think they think it's something but it's not that is ruined a lot of people's minds Yeah, perceptions from social media Well, I'll be I'll be I'll be I'll be at my shows and shit and these bitches be trying to get in my section

And shit like that back bitch move and maybe they don't know how to handle that shit They've never been talked to like that never been done like that, especially by ugly-ass men skin like me Like it fucks them up. Yeah bitch, you need to be humbled. Like when I be at shows, I'll see a group of fine ass women and I see a big bitch right here and I be like, come here, huh? Cause I'ma boost this big baby up cause she don't get that love.

These bitches, they're used to it. You know what I'm sayin'? They almost expect it. Yeah. Bitch, fuck you. Bitch, you know what I'm sayin'? Get your big ass up here, baby. You finna shine tonight.

Yeah. I like that shit though. I love the underdogs. I love, I'm saying? Get your big ass up here, baby. You finna sign tonight. Yeah. I like that shit though. I love the underdogs. I love helping people win. I love seeing people that never win win. You know what I'm saying? It just feels good. It does feel good.

It feels amazing. I remember being a kid watching other kids be on like America's Got Talent and shit and they be singing and I just start crying. I just be like, I just start crying. You know, like fuck. It's amazing. It is amazing.

It's amazing. I've never cried on, I mean, yeah, I've cried on stage once and that's when I saw the T-shirt that Homegirl made of my mama, but that hit different because like, my mama used to be sitting on the floor, ironing hundred dollar bills, and I'd be standing on the bed rapping to whatever music video was being played.

She'd be like, go V-Man V Man go so when I seen that shirt I just looked down to close my eyes and I heard go V man go and I looked up and I just Thousands of people and I could I had no choice but to cry on that one But I've never I've never been able to tear up because I just do this shit So every time I get on that stage, it's so natural and so me that I'm not even thinking about emotions. I'm like, I'm here fucking this shit up.

Right. You know what I'm saying? But when I look at myself before I do it or I think of myself on stage, I get emotional. But never in the moment. Never in the moment. In the moment, I'm there and I'm here to whoop ass. Yes, sir. I love it. Yeah, bro. Let's end on that Yeah, you're a bad motherfucker. I'm glad I met you now. I'm glad I met you bro. I'm like man

I swear I'm not trying suck your dick. You're a bad motherfucker. Like I respect you I love you. My father is my hero and knowing that you're one of his heroes It's like, you know I'm saying I come home with the lion's head today. So it's beautiful. Thank you brother I love you too, man. I think you're you're an awesome force out there. Thank you I appreciate you and I love your attitude. I really do I love the the gratitude you have for everything and the respect you have for everything. It's beautiful. Thanks, man I appreciate you for your time, bro. I had fun. Thank you for being here my friend No, of course go check him out. Ladies and gentlemen that Mexican ot he's out there if you can get a ticket

Come on, let's out there if you can get a ticket. Come on now, I love pigs. Let's go, let's go. Alright, thanks, bye everybody. Bye.