The Joe Rogan Experience - #2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

Sebastian Maniscalco is a comedian, actor, and host of the podcast, "The Pete and Sebastian Show" alongside Pete Correale. Watch his latest TV series, “Bookie” on Max. Catch his highly anticipated 2024 tour, “It Ain’t Right,” this coming July. www.sebastianlive.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hello Sebastian. What Joe? It's my first time here at the Austin property. Yes. And first of all, most comfortable chair I've ever sat on. They're great, right?

I feel like when I come here, or when I come do this podcast, it's my third time on it, I feel like I'm in the future. All right? I feel like you got things that aren't even out yet. I just feel like this chair, the general public can't even have access to it yet. No, but they do, we've had these for years.

Well, whatever they are. These are great. Then, I feel like I've never drank water out of a- Metal cup? Yeah, and I feel- We're sustainable here. I feel like there's a reason for everything that you do right there's definitely reason for metal cups You really shouldn't be drinking out of plastic. Okay. Yeah again. I mean I do I drink a plastic water bottle

Someone gives you one, but I avoid them whenever I can Yeah, of course we all we all know all the plastics when I'm drinking out of plastic Bottles myself, and I don't know I don't see that much of a it's gonna turn you into a chick maybe is this even real water what kind of waters okay filter all right filtered yeah what is it like it's a super filter some crazy filter a special machine that's yeah unplug yeah you can't get this room outside this room. You can't get the water outside the room. Good water, right? It's very delicious. And then you got a whole, and I don't know if anybody's ever talked about your area on your side of the table. Yeah. There's just so much shit going on over there. There's tins. There's mammoth teeth. I

Got an arrowhead a religion arrowheads probably five hundred thousand years old You got soil on your bookshelf out there. Yes Anybody jars soil well that was from a gentleman Who runs white oaksures, his name is Will Harris and he has this amazing farm, it's a regenerative farm, and he gave us two pieces of soil to... What's that, Karl Barking? He wants a fight. He didn't get enough biting me this morning. One more out first. Carl's getting hard, dude.

He bit my finger. That was a real yipe that I went. He bit me this morning. I was like, yo! Carl goes after you. No, yeah, you went after me. But anyway, that soil, one of them is a jar of regenerative soil, which

means soil that is how a farm is supposed to be run, where there's manure and chickens and all the animals just ruminate and they Live off the land in a natural way and it's a deep rich dark soil and the other soil which is pale is That's industrial soil that soil that's been used with industrial fertilizers and the top soils dead and it's just garbage which is most of what we see the difference between you and I is you actually remember what the soil does and what... Is somebody gave me soil?

Somebody gave me soil, and you said you got soil? I guess, yeah, somebody gave me dirt, and I would know the difference between the two. You see, the dark dirt is the good dirt. That's the real dirt. That's how dirt's supposed to look out in the two. You see the dark dirt is the good dirt. That's the real dirt. That's how dirt's supposed to look out in the wild. That's what we're supposed to be eating food from. Mineral rich soil so you get healthy vegetables,

healthy animals. That's beautiful that you have that on display. Yeah. And again, coming and taking a tour of this place is inspiring. Coming and taking a tour of this place is Inspiring you make me want to Spend money. Yeah, he should spend money

You definitely should spend money because if you don't spend money like what's the point in having it? I know I wish I could get there, but you watch your ball and look at that What is that my wife gave me this beautiful watch? What that so a Cartier watch for our wedding that's gorgeous Pretty watch that is a lovely watch. Thank you. Joe. I appreciate it. Yeah Yeah, she gave me this for our wedding gift very nice, but yeah, I've got taste You had some bastard you got more taste than I do I tell you that right now I know yeah I let my wife pick out almost everything when I have nice sneakers on it's generally my wife bottom. Does your does your wife Comment on your clothing

She does but she leaves me alone for the most part, but she'll dress me occasionally if I have to go out But I'm a basically I'm a fucking teenager. Yeah, well yeah, you're like a T-shirt, like a jujitsu T-shirt guy. I wear T-shirts. They're comfortable, I wear jeans, they're comfortable. I don't really give a fuck. I don't think I've ever seen you in a suit. I wear suits.

Yeah, I have some nice suits. I have David August made me a whole, I have like a whole row in my office. I'm in my house, my closet, filled with suits. Yeah, I got a bunch of custom made suits. Cause I can't wear regular suits, I don't fit in them. There's a lot of 200 pound, five eight dudes. It's just very odd shaped.

They don't make clothing. Chimp sizes. Short dudes who are really wide. Yeah, but it's a nice fitted suit. It's a fucking wonderful thing to have because just fits you perfect. All the cuffs and everything. You feel different. You put it on. You know, we all the boys, we did a show in Vegas, we did the MGM, the Grand Garden Arena and we did me and Bryan Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe and Hans Kim. And we I got them all suits. I said, let's all get like we're doing Vegas come on let's do it Rat Pack Styles we got some these beautiful David August suits and Jamie got one too it was incredible nice was so much fun yeah it's nice you wear you feel different when you show up with a suit on you do feel different however I look at that that's us oh yeah come on son that's a nice sharp shot sharp everybody's looking sharp look at Jamie with the shades come on I've got the full pulp fiction ponytail going on look at you

yeah it's right I feel though with a suit right and I've noticed this as I've gained some weight in the midsection wearing a suit is becoming extremely uncomfortable if you don't have like a very kind of tight body mmm right if you get stuck around here it binds you tuck in your shirt there's the buttons hanging around for the rest of your life so I'm fluctuating in my weight where the suits I got right now I gotta work into them. Yeah, well, you and me are both Italian,

and Italians, we just love our pasta. It's a real problem. It's a problem, especially when you, after you hit 50, it just seems to not go away. It doesn't go away. The only way to go away is to not eat pasta. That's the only way. That's the only way for me.

Not eat pasta and booze. If I cut way back on the booze and no pasta My body just goes and triples back to normal. Yeah, I'm in the process of trying to get back It's so hard to avoid that food. The food is just like if it's in front of me. I just have a real problem Well, you're like to you like to eat meat. Do you find that the meat is is helping your Physique and yeah, if I just eat meat. Yeah, definitely Yeah, because meat is very satisfying meat has what's called a high satiety rate Which means like when you eat it you get satisfied when your body's had enough

But I always say this like if you gave me a steak Just a steak 16 ounce steak. I eat it, I'm good. I don't need anything else. But if there's a bowl pasta next to that steak, I'm eating the pasta too. If there's some bread and butter, I'm going to eat the bread and butter. Somebody rolls out dessert. Of course I'll have dessert. Next thing you know, I've consumed, you know, 1500 extra calories that I didn't

even really want or need. They just, you just get addicted to just stuff in your face, just stuff. Oh, if I don't leave like this, like, oh, like my stomach literally will distend out where I look at myself in the mirror, I'm disgusted. Like, what have you eaten? Look at all the mass you've put in your body.

Because if you looked at like, if you keep your stomach like right here, like this is normal, my normal stomach. But if you add that much food, which is how I'll consume that much food, easy. It just goes right here. Oh yeah. Oh, and you just look at you like,

you fat piece of shit. You lazy, slovenly, greedy fuck. Like look what you've eaten. You get any, you sweat at night when you sleep after you have meat? I'm drenched. I have a thing called an eight sleep mattress cover. I have one.

They're fucking amazing. Okay. It's a game changer. Okay, so do you crank that thing up to 10 after you eat a meal like that to cool off the body? No, generally if I'm sweating it's because I'm having nightmares. I'll have some nightmares and I'll wake up drenched.

Not in that thing though. That thing generally, I don't think I have woken up sweaty since I got it. Really? I always used to wake up sweaty. I would wake up on wet sheets. Oh yeah, no, I eat a rib-eye. Two o'clock in the morning I get up

and I'm like sweating. Yeah. And that never used to happen when I used to eat. I don't remember what I have the eight sleep thing dialed into, but I got it right there at the sweet spot. I've tried it a little too cool, a little too warm, but now I got it right there. I sleep like a baby Do you have it heat up in the morning in the morning? I think it does. I think it's on some sort of a cycle

I'm not exactly sure I don't remember how I set it up But you could do there's a bunch of different options That you can do and you can even have a different option for like you or your wife. Yeah, she likes it warmer cooler It's nice No, it's been a game changer. It does make a big difference. Yeah, but taking care of your sleep is John I've really prioritized that Especially recently because you know owning the club and being out late and I was doing two shows a night Which is also a lot was too much

I was doing six hours of comedy a week just doing three nights Just doing Tuesday Wednesday Thursday two shows a night, but it was just I was too tired I was burnt out and I wasn't getting the proper sleep because I'd get home Shows over, you know like 1230 or something like that. I get home hanging out with the guys at the club I'm getting home at like 130 and then I start writing and so I write from home at like 1 30 and then I start writing and so I write from 1 30 to like 4 and then I have to get up at 10 to work out and like this is too much you writing material in the in the dead of night yeah that's my right wow yeah I almost always find that I'm most productive when everyone in my house is asleep so I don't have to like dad you know I have to think about anything you

know did you do this did you put that away does this where's the thing you know I don't have to deal with anything the dogs asleep everybody's cool I can just sit in front of that fucking computer and think you know and that's the only time that I have like free reign of my house where there's no one awake so I get my best and also I think you're jazzed up when you get off stage And if you just hold on to that like your brain is already kind of in comedy mode your brain is already thinking Yeah For me I do a voice message. I record the set and I listen to it afterwards

But as far as like creating I mean I feel like after 10 o'clock, the whole body shuts down. And I got two small kids, so maybe that's why, you know, they're up early. Sure, they're up early, yeah. But yeah, I mean, 9, 30, 10, there's... And talk about the two shows. I mean, I used to do two shows with my eyes closed. And now it's like the second show, it's like, hey...

Are you taking vitamins? Uh, I take supplements like you know multivitamin I'm sure I don't have it dialed in as you get it dialed in and make a big difference Much as it should be but I just feel exhausted. Yeah, I am tired Yeah, and I just constantly have to have sips of caffeine throughout the day to stay alive That's that's where I'm at. You look like you wake up Ready to go I got this whole vision of of what your day must look like you must spring out of bed and go give me it

You must spring out of bed and go, give me it. Right? Right. Right. I never, I only talk about not having to sue that. I don't think since I've known you, I've seen you yawn. Dude. I'm not kidding, bro. You constantly look awake.

What is it? It's health. The water? It's all the above. Supplements, definitely. That's a big factor. I take a lot of vitamins. I take athletic greens. That's one thing I take, but I take a whole suite of different vitamins. I take a bunch of different things like vitamin D, vitamin K2. I take things for eyesight,

I take just fish oil, I take creatine, I take a lot of stuff. Okay. Yeah. I took three or four vitamins once, right? I swallowed it with some water, I coughed, and a puff of white smoke came out of my mouth. Vitamin powder. Yeah. I think the body's rejecting the vitamins. and a puff of white smoke came out of my mouth.

I think the body's rejecting the vitamins. It's gotta be a slow process. You don't want to dive right into the amount of vitamins. The amount of vitamins I take is like half of this coffee cup. Cheese. Every day. All right. Taking a couple.

You have like a whole cabinet that's filled with supplements, and I pull them out. So when you travel, what do you carry a suitcase of supplements? I have a bag and in my bag, most of the time when I travel, there's a company called Pure Encapsulations and they make these packs like athletic pure pack. They're great for travel. Very easy. You don't have to think about it. Just rip open the pack, take those vitamins and you're good. So when I'm on the road generally you get rid of Carl is too too rowdy He's rowdy. He wants a bite me

Bite how cute is that dog? He's cute. I just got a dog. What'd you get? Never never a dog owner really life It's the first time I've ever had a dog. It's a labradoodle and oh, this is a great dog Extremely intelligent. Yeah, but I don't think it likes me. What I don't know. I look at me like Loves my wife loves my kid doesn't like you. I don't know just it's It's not as excited to see me as maybe my wife and kids really and just very perceptive on the Maybe he wants to meet a man. Is he the man of the house? And just very perceptive on the... Maybe he wants to meet a man. Is he the man of the house?

Well, he's becoming the man. Does he have balls? Yeah. Well, keep his balls. Yeah. Don't, don't. No, that's what the one, I think the dog trainer said, just keep him nuts and tight.

The whole idea is you don't want unnecessary puppies. Right, I agree. Don't let your dog breed, but be with your fucking dog. But if you take your dog's balls off, now your dog doesn't have any testosterone anymore. Yeah. They develop hip problems and joint problems. They're tired all the time. Just like a man. If you take his balls away, they become a eunuch. That's what you're doing to your dog. Okay. It's just, I've seen people do it and they're like, oh my, I wish I didn't do it. Like, Andrew Huberman said that. He started giving his dog testosterone Because he gave his dog He got his dog fixed and then his dog was like listless all the time

And so he's like he felt terrible and they started doing the research on it and looking into it and like oh you need hormones Dogs do just like people do. Mm-hmm. It's terrible for them. Yeah, we will keep his nuts intact. I Had a vet that told me that yeah one vet a great guy And he was like don't do it don't do it Everybody says to do it like you're not gonna you're not taking your dog somewhere and letting your dog breed With a bunch of different dogs and have puppies just that Irresponsibly, so your dog has a nice yard, you're a good dog owner, you're with him all the time, like don't worry about it.

Don't do it. As long as you're paying attention to him. Yeah, just the whole idea is just to not, I mean people are irresponsible, that's why. I can't go to the dog pound, if I go to the dog pound I will have 20 dogs. My dog's perfect, he's awesome, but I just, I love dogs, I would have.

You love them? Yeah, I always had dogs. I would have as many dogs as I can. I love them. They're just pure love and if you have a good relationship with your dogs, if your dogs love you and you love them, it's like every day I wake up and I say to my dog, good morning sir, and he goes woo, he starts whimpering and whining and wagging his tail 50 miles an hour and he goes around in circles and we hug it out and I kiss him and I rub his belly. It's like we have a morning ritual.

I love dogs, man. Oh, it's nice. It changes your life. They make your life filled with love. You know, cats are cool, but they're kind of aloof. You know, they wanna be pet and then they go away and they're cool, they just wanna go outside and kill something. Your dog is like your friend, they want to be pet and then they go away and they're cool. They just want to go outside and kill something.

Your dog is like your friend. He wants to hang out with you. Like I take him to work. He's like, are we going to work? This is crazy. We're going to work. Every day when I bring out the ball, I think he's going to be bored with the ball. I bring out the balls like today's like enough with the ball, but nope.

Every day is like the ball. He's got the ball. He's running around in circles, jumping up in the air, trying to steal the ball from me before I throw it. It's amazing Yeah, that's that's what I hear a lot of dog owners. Oh, you're not having that experience. Well, not yet No, how old is in puppies like three? Oh three months old just spend time with them I don't want them play with them a lot. I'm playing I'm just saying I'm I don't know if it's the cologne I got on Probably smell like a chemical factory

Fuck is this dude smell like whoo I feel I feel I feel do you work alone? I feel like you don't want to cologne do you work alone? We mean you work alone wear cologne. Yeah, I thought you said work alone. No, no, no, no, I don't work alone No, I barely wear I only wear deodorant because I don't want to be offensive Because I will get offensive else. I'll smell terrible, but I wear natural deodorant with no aluminum in it and all that chest Yeah, I don't know. I don't smell you don't smell at all. No Are you sure? I don't I don't have whatever it is that gives off any type of body odor

I really I don't have it have you been told this by someone or you just like deduce this on your eye I Gotten sweaty many a times and I've gotten sweaty many a times, and I've asked my wife, do I smell? She goes, no. So I don't emanate any odor while I'm sweating. Interesting, maybe your wife can't smell good. No, I'm telling you Joe, believe me, I'm very keen on odors, all right?

So if I smell anything, I make sure that that's taken care of. Odors are interesting because you know, your olfactory senses. They detect changes in smell. They don't detect static smells. That's why people that live in an area like with a slaughterhouse, they don't freak out. My family used to live in Pennsylvania,

and when I would drive from New York to go visit them, when I would drive through these areas where they have farms and slaughterhouses, fertilizer, it's a fucking terrible smell in the whole town. Like how can these people live here? They don't smell it. Oh, the no body odor gene. That's what you have. People have the ABCC 11 non-functioning gene variant, have dry earwax and little to no body odor. Now, I've known this for some time, right, that I have no body odor. But it's

nice to come on the show because there's always a reference put up. Like, I could have looked that up. I never looked it up and here you come and you walk away knowing that you don't have the gene that emits odor. Yeah some sort of a gene expression Interesting. I wonder what the like Benefits we were talking about this yesterday like people that didn't shower There was people that went their whole life without bathing because bathing was considered a sin It was sinful you want to discourage people. Where was that about what we're reading? It was something religious right? It was it was about like royalty and old-timey people. Well but St. Agnes is that who it was that went his

whole life without bathing at all? His whole life no bathing. Imagine. I couldn't imagine that. Imagine what that guy smelled like. Imagine what his asshole smelled like. What the fuck, dude? Have you gone recently, the last 10 years, without taking a shower? Or cleaning yourself, at least? Did you miss a day? I've missed a day before, yeah. But generally, no, because I work out.

So if I work out, I always shower. I always shower. And I'll cold plunge and sauna So that's you know you just drench the sweat you feel like shit if you don't wash off a little no I agree I'm just I I think I might be showering too much. I'm gonna show Normally get two showers in a day real sometimes three I feel like I feel like if I'm gonna go to say with my wife, I feel like I can't take the day shower and bleed it into the night.

I feel like it's a reset. Right. You're going to get re-ready for the dinner. You want to look nice? You want to look nice? You want to feel nice? Put that watch on? Put the watch on and go out and have a nice bowl of pasta.

Sweat to death until talking to my wife. Do you use the eight sleep thing? Does it help you? Yeah, sweat the day you talk So do you use the eight sleep thing does it help you well it's Again, I got this eight sleep. It's supposed to monitor your sleep, right? I got the aura ring supposed to monitor right you know what I need what I need accountability I need to send the data To someone and have gone someone and have them style and have them analyze it and go Oh, you know what the problem is You're waking up at 1 o'clock in the morning and that's disrupting your sleep. I got all this data I got an Apple watch. Oh, I've burned

390 calories. Okay What does that mean? You know, like there's no right. I have a lot of data. I don't have a lot of analysis Mmm, all right. Do you have a trainer? I have a trainer. Yeah, maybe she get a nutritionist You got some bread get a nutritionist what someone we could show the data to and they'll tell you what you're doing wrong All right, I need someone to hand over the data to them. They have like companies that do stuff like that Okay, yeah, have like companies that do stuff like that okay yeah you get that done yeah you should do that yeah I bet the late night eating things a real problem that that one makes you feel terrible what's what's late night eating okay like some say all right you should have dinner at 536

o'clock and after that you don't eat if you go to bed around 9 930 what I mean what's a late-night meal for you at 1 o'clock in the morning last night I was cooking elk steaks 1 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, then you go well then you're up to 430. I was up to 3. Yeah, I Mean as long as you're not going to sleep. I figure out two three hours I think two three hours a good time to go to bed after a meal. Yeah a couple hours Yeah, but I've done it like where I eat and go right to bed. Yes terrible. That's terrible We have eight o'clock at night. We're eating next thing

You know 841 or in bed and I'm like is this healthy so you should go for a walk go for a walk right in neighborhood I just saw something online that walking I just saw something online that's walking. I was going to share that. Oh, who's that? Huberman Lab. Oh, yeah, there it is. That's from Andrew Huberman again. Brief post meal walks and blood sugar regulation.

So they explain the simple yet large positive effect that a brief post meal walk, as simple as it may sound, the data is impressive. And it is impressive stuff. I forget exactly what the numbers were, but 30%, 35% change in your blood sugar level I forget exactly what the numbers were but you should 30 35 percent Changing your blood sugar level is by taking a walk around the block after a meal Pretty amazing with all this stuff that's out

All this information yes of how to live your life, and you took me to a tour you got the you got the Tanky the sauna that thing I feel like at this age at 50, all the stuff that you gotta do to prepare for the day, by the time you're done with it, you gotta go back to bed again, right? So by the time you work out, do the cold plunge, you're in the sauna, you're in the tank, and then it's time to go to bed. It's time to go back to bed

with all the shit you gotta do, right? It used to be you'd just work out for an hour, you took a shower, and you went out with your day. Now I gotta go submerge myself in water, I gotta go sweat, then I gotta go float in a tank. The tank takes a lot of time, but the other things don't take, the float tank takes a lot of time. But the other things, like, cold plunge adds three minutes to my day, sauna adds 20 minutes

to my day. It's 25 extra minutes of my workout. That's it I wasn't looking for the time breakdown job. I was just but it doesn't take the whole day But I'm just saying the the amount of shit with the yeah, then you gotta eat the vitamins the half a cup and then You know, but but but it's all said done. It's time for dinner But you know, but but but it's also done. It's time for dinner No, no you get things done man to say you're exaggerating I get you doing that. I know this is the way you do humor It's plenty of time there's plenty of time you just don't waste you to like today I wasted an hour just Scrolling through Instagram. It's one of the rare days. I just felt like indulging myself I'm like let's fucking see what's going on in the world bunch of nonsense some interesting things

But just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour just wasted scrolling Yeah, I mean there's there's time there's mind numbing things that you do to kind of like whatever carry yourself throughout the day I'm just saying 20 years ago nobody knew about any of this shit shit about what you did sweating and what that does. Now with the internet, you could throw up, you know, before the internet, if we were talking about walking, right, we would just go, oh yeah, now walk is good for you.

Next thing you know, now we got a whole study up on the screen of how walking is beneficial to you and this, that, and the other thing. I'm just saying with the amount of information out there, sometimes I feel a little bit overwhelmed going, how much do I got to do to get through today? Well, it depends on how you want to feel. If you want to have a lot of energy, like I do, you have to do a lot of things. And I firmly believe that's the reason why I'm so productive.

And I think if I didn't do the cold plunge and the sauna and the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy, I'd be a completely different human being. I know. That's why I wouldn't have the energy. No, I get it. I'm just it's just that there's a lot you gotta do. Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's a lot you gotta do.

Like, I see people on the internet sweating. So I'm like, then I'm like, okay, do I gotta start sweating? Is the steam room that I got at home, is that not enough? Do a couple eucalyptus sprays, breathe in, sweat a little bit, and then I come out, right? That's not bad. Okay, but now do I need an infrared sauna? Because now I gotta get the sweat that's inside

that's not coming out of the steam. What's happening, Joe? The infrared sauna is probably very good for you, but there's not a lot of data on it like there is with the traditional dry sauna. A traditional dry sauna, there's a lot of very beneficial data. And the thing about the difference between steam

and sauna is you can't really get steam hot enough Because you'll cook because it's just too crazy, you know, you can't get a hundred and ninety degrees steam shower You'd literally go in there and scald your skin Yeah, but you can get a hundred and ninety degree dry sauna and you go in there and you really fucking sweat Yeah, that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins, because your body's reacting to it overheating, so it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect. And that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life. I mean, there's a study out of Finland, they did a 20-year study that found that using

a sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at a time. And I think it was 175 degrees, lowers your all cause mortality by 40%. That means strokes, heart attack, cancer, everything. Lowers it by 40%. And this is a long term study of many, many people. So the 190 degrees is a lot more beneficial than the steam. A steam at 120, is that doing anything? It's doing something. Yeah, it's all good

A hot bath is good Everything is good and getting your body to heat up is good because it gets your body to react and it's the same thing It develops those heat shock proteins a really hot bath is very good for you If you can get in a nice hot especially you get some Epsom salts in there you get that magnesium Get a really hot bath. if you get some Epsom salts in there, you get that magnesium, you get a really hot bath, woof, very, very good for you. You know what I started doing? Talking about magnesium. And I don't know if you've ever done this, but I'm doing a, I got a little spray bottle

of magnesium. I spray it on my feet at night and I put socks on. You ever heard of that move? No. Why do you do that? Saw it online. Let me try this. I'm a guy, I'm telling you right now, this is what I do. I don't do research. None? None. I see that, I go, oh, this guy sprayed magnesium on my feet putting socks on. I'm going gonna try that tonight. That's it. No Google search? No Google search, no nothing. Okay. It could be killing me for all I know. I don't think it is. But I'm doing magnesium feet sock sleeps. Does it seem

to have a change in the way you feel? Again, haven't done it consistently enough to even find out if this is helping me. Right right so I'm a guy that does like things kind of on the whim and There's really no consistency with it right let's look into it for you because the magnesium foot spray that I'm now I'm interested like what is the deal behind that there's definitely multiple products being sold for as magnesium oil for your feet I didn't see anything necessarily made saying you need to keep socks on too I throw the socks on just because I don't want magnesium all over the bed yeah that's good no worse no that's what I'm doing like my wife is even looking at me going Jesus Christ I'm at the edge of the bed spraying my feet she's like really?

Magnesium on your feet is this for the relationship So, I don't know if you get the internet probably don't even have this information I saw it like on a random. I think it was an Instagram video Well, I would imagine it get absorbs through your skin just like the float tank does the float tank is a great source of magnesium Because there's a thousand pounds of Epsom salts in the water and your skin absorbs it So I would imagine your skin's absorbing that stuff you're spraying on your feet. Yeah, it just doesn't absorb it as well as like an oral Yeah, okay Yeah, so not good absorption, but it works a little bit okay pull something I can help with cramps or some sort of nerve functions magnesium helps people sleep though right?

It's a good one for sleep. Yeah. Yeah, I know sometimes when I get those IV and there's magnesium in there. I feel exhausted The IV again, this is another thing people do. Right. Oh, you gotta get a bag of whatever the hell's in the thing. Right. I don't even ask. Just give me the bag, whatever you, and I get it, right?

Don't feel any different. No? I don't, nothing. You will if you're sick. Yeah, if you're, I tell everybody, if you are down, if you're feeling shit, you're run down, get an IV vitamin drip, it'll it's a game changer, especially with high dose of zinc and vitamin C, you get an IV vitamin bag and you

will feel way better. Bill Burr was sick as a dog when I saw him last I was like, how long you been sick for? He's like two weeks. I can't shake this call. I go, please listen to me. I just do this. Get a vitamin IV. And he texted me the other day. He's like, Dr. Rogan. He goes, he fixed me.

He's like, I'm going to do that from now on. I'm like, from now on, any time you're sick, you feel like shit, get a high dose vitamin C, zinc, B12, the whole deal, in a bag. You'll feel much, much better. Because it gives your body the tools it needs to fight off whatever the fuck is trying to get you. Yeah, Joe, listen, I've done the bag.

All right? Right? While ill. Has it helped? Well, it's helped, but not like where I came out of it. Like, this is what I'm thinking. If I take the bag and I got a cough after I take the bag, The cough should go away. I don't want the cough anymore.

And if the cough is still there, I feel like, eh. Have you ever done NAD? No. NAD is rough. How do you say it again? Nucleotide, adenonide, what is it again? Nicotinonide, adenine, what is it? nicotinine, adenine, adenine dinucleotides. Yeah. What is it? So NAD is a supplement that you can take that actually helps your telomeres lengthen, which is a sign of healthy healthy bodies and young people

found in all living cells. NAD is called dinucleotide because it consists of two nucleotides joined through their phosphorus groups. So you take that in an IV bag and generally most people do it over a long period of time. You do it over like two hours. So you just watch a movie. Because it's very uncomfortable. What, to get it? Yeah, the NAD is very uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable for your stomach. It makes you like, crap up.

You're like, ugh. If you do it quick, it's like, it's an intense feeling that most people don't enjoy. What's the benefit? What does it do? There's a lot of benefits. There's a benefit for your immune system. There's a benefit cognitively.

You feel much better You just you come out of it when your body's replenished with that stuff. You just feel fantastic. Okay, feel really good With something else I got but that's one that needs some time unless you can go Hardcore and just like deal with the uncomfortable feeling and do anything hardcore. Nothing nothing My life is hardcore. Interesting. Interesting. Do you have an aversion to hardcore things, or is this how it all panned out?

It's just how it all panned out. Hardcore for me is, hardcore is comedy. That's what I do. Okay. Hardcore is one thing. One thing we're all in on. All in on comedy. Other than that, outside, I wish I was more interested and dove into things a little bit more deeper than I have.

Everything with me is a little bit on the surface. Do you really wish that? Because I feel like if you did wish that, you would just do it. Right? Yeah, I just wish I had the, I don't know what it is inside me that would make me to learn more about

Like I like cooking right, but I don't dive so into it where I'm coming up with Recipes and doing this and that right right right how let's look look at a YouTube video make that make the fish and then Here's the fish, but I don't take it to another level I don't go get the beautiful knife for the pots and pans and all the stuff that is goes along with Cooking right my interest level is surface Rarely does it go underneath the surface? You know what I really got into out here is cooking over wood Like live like actual hardwood not just lump charcoal like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks are slowly

like cooking the steaks rather and then searing them at the end over the coals I take the coals and I put the coals from the hardwood and underneath the grill and then see the shit out of it okay Okay, I hear that. I hear that. Yeah. And my brain is gonna explode. It's too much. Too much. But we're all different Sebastian.

I know we're all different, but do you know the kind of wood that it's? Live oak, you want oak generally. A live oak or if you want to grill hotter you like a lot of guys like mesquite I like mesquite and oak those are my two favorite but I'll try cherry I'll try some different woods some places you can go to get hardwood just for some because there's so much barbecue out here yeah there's companies that'll just deliver cords of wood to your house okay speaking of wood I got a

pizza oven my goal is to make pizza. It's not as easy as people might think to make pizza from scratch, the dough and the whole thing. It's very hard. So I've tried multiple times. And you know, I'm the guy, again, I'm a guy that, I'll try it again and hope for a different result, but I'll do the same same thing I did before right right just hoping magically. Oh, it's gonna come out

My pizza don't even look like pizza. I don't even it looks like the shapes are Unrecognizable all right. I can't even get a circle on the damn thing to work You know I work it out. It just it's not pliable enough So when I put it in there, half of the cheese flies off into the stove. I bring it out, it's a mess. Why don't you get pre-made dough? I tried the pre-made dough, Joe.

For whatever the reason, I cannot get a circle with the thing. I try this. I bet if you went to a real Italian pizzeria They would show you how to do it again. You went there. Don't listen you teach me something I've come home. I forget half of the shit. I learned I don't have any retention or comprehension on anything Is this always been the case always been the case, but now with comedy now That's why we're just thinking the one thing you're successful at like super successful at you've like focused entirely on that no more focus

The focus I have is for comedy after that the focus wanes because I feel like I just don't have you know That's probably a good way to live Yeah, just say let's just be casual most of your life and be intense about one thing that sounds like a good balance I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Well, I would like to learn more things as I... You know, even when you got kids now, you could teach your kids how to do the archery. You got the whole archery thing, you know? Hunting. You know how to hunt, right?

I'm trying to figure out what am I passing on to my kids as far as skill sets is a concern? Yeah, I don't be talking shit. Huh talking shit. They're probably good at talking shit My kids are real good at talking shit They say some funny things man. It's fun. We have a fun house. It's like a lot of fun shit talking Yeah, that's always that's always good. Then they make fun of me too, which is fun Like there's no you know, I could never make fun of my too, which is fun. Like, there's no, you know, I could never make fun of my parents.

There was none of that growing up. They would fucking yell at you. Oh, we had that relationship with my parents. Yeah, it can't be. Italian parents. No, no, we did. Oh yeah, the relationship, jokin' around. Yeah, just goofing around.

My parents were not like that. No, they didn't. There was not a lot of jokin' around. No, so I love jokin' around. And so they make it fun of me all the time like it's hilarious your daughters Yeah, they're funny. They're fun. They talk shit, and they know that I like it They know that I laugh so everyone's like we have a good time. They talk shit to each other. They talk shit to their friends Talking shit is fun. It's like it's it's a fun activity

It's one of the my favorite things about a green room at a comedy club is that everybody's talking shit. You go back there, everybody's busting balls, cracking on people, guys and girls, everyone's laughing, we're all just like, shitting on each other. And it's hilarious. It's such a beautiful environment.

You know, like a green room of a comedy club where you're around a bunch of good people and everyone's laughing And we're all jazzed up because we're about to do shows and oh That's not why I wish you were in last night. I wanted to take you to the club Yeah, I wish I would have came to it's so much fun, man. It's such a great spot, but here's my thing with that Here's my here's my here's my Here's my take on the green room. Okay.

I generally tend to retreat and just listen to everything that's going on when comedians get together. I'm never the guy, like, center of attention or contributing to the fun. I've always been the guy that just kinda comes in quiet and listen because I don't know a lot of the comedians intimately enough to have that like comfortable. So if I walk into a room, like here, I just did the show with Seinfeld,

Nate Bregazzi, and Jim Gaffaffigan and we all backstage I tend to be the one who's I listen yeah and I chime in every every now and again right right I don't have to be the guy that comes in and kind of like pisses on the the room that's actually good that's a good trait yeah yeah also when you're around those guys like hey what a great time to sit back and listen you got Seinfeld Nate Barghazi and Jim Gaffigan in a room together look at that Yeah, so we had a great time, but I'm just when did uh that's

That's crazy. When did what I was gonna say like look at you you look like an Arab When did you turn into a guy from Palestine? I don't know What is that photo? Filter on you that does not look like you am I right Jamie? Dark the guy he came off a yacht. There's no other way like the school It looks like a guy in the Mediterranean shows you how to get octopus You don't even look like you like in that photo you know handsome don't get me wrong you look great but you don't know you know what it is all

the other everybody else is white they got that's what it is when you're next to Jim Gaffigan right right right you're gonna look like you that's your filter delivery he looks like a normal color in that which is wrong Yeah, look at look at dark. Yeah, well that at least looks like you that other photo did not look like you All right, maybe it was the lighting Joe, but that's me. I was there I Believe you I 100% believe you I'm just saying that let go to that last photo Jamie. I'm not lying right go that last photo Get the fuck out of here that ain't you? That's that's some dude that works for the Saudi Arabian government

Make some sort of a deal to try to get comedy to cover the Middle East I know a lot of guys do comedy in the Middle East they give you like a list of shit You can't talk about I did it. Oh wait Bunch of comedians that scares me a list of shit shit you can't talk about like what if I slip up yeah It's a moment in the crowd was with yell something out, and I think it would be funny to say something and Whoopsies there's a lot of editing now. You're in jail. Yeah Yeah, who had a problem with that? Who was it someone actually went to one of those Middle East countries

and did a gig and almost got arrested. It was Eddie Ift. Yeah, he the only thing that saved him, I believe the story was, I believe it's Eddie. I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious. They didn't have a problem with what he said at all. I think he called someone sir, when you're not supposed to call him sir, you're supposed to call him your highness or your excellency And he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir And then they were trying to arrest him afterwards Yeah, yo

Like sir's not that's that even like I thought it was something no wasn't anything That's why I'm nervous like that's not even that mean that's not even anything crazy That's nothing But your brand of humor did you take that and did you ever do corporates and you know that wasn't your style? Everybody that I've ever known that's done a corporate after they do them they go why did I do that Ron white just did one He was his worst fucking experience in my life But they offered me a shitload of money, and I said yes that I kept saying no But they kept coming up with higher numbers and eventually I said yes, and it was fucking terrible Tony Hanscliffe

Just did one he said it was fucking terrible. They're always terrible you like them You like I don't mind the corporate them? I don't mind a corporate. Really? I really don't mind a corporate. Yeah, you've had those awful corporate gigs where, you know. What percentage of them were there? I just ran into Sandler. He told me he ate dick at a corporate gig. Yeah, I mean.

Adam Sandler. Yeah, they're not. They paid to see Adam Sandler. They knew Adam Sandler was going to be there, and it still sucked. It's the environment sometimes. It's like you're walking into whatever. They just had their breakout meeting, and then they're coming, and then, oh sometimes it's like right you're walking into whatever they just had their Breakout meeting and then they're coming and the ho it's comedy, but it's just a different vibe

They're all scamming about their careers. They're all networking. Yeah fucking making their little backstabbing moves But you call them you call them out on that, you know You kind of like do material about what they're going through during the three-day You know you kind of like do material about what they're going through during the three-day Sales meeting at the Venetian right you know so you kind of relate to I Actually, I don't I don't mind them as much as other comedians. Oh, I corporate this I Actually don't mind Jay Leno loves them. Yeah, I mean that's where he's made the majority of his money Jay you know Jay Leno all those fucking cars. has, never spent a dime of his tonight show money.

I know, it's amazing. Never spent a dime, puts it all in the bank. It's amazing. All that money, all those cars, it's all him doing gigs. Well, here, you didn't grow up with money, right? So, now you're super successful, you got this money. Was there someone that taught you how to manage money or how to how to look at money in a way where you're like? Okay, I have a good grasp on this. Yeah, I mean a money manager what-have-you, but I'm just talking to your relationship with money

Is it like yeah, you know, we're here You know live it up spend it or is it more like do you ever think? this is not gonna be the most popular podcast ever or Do you even do you even think that way? I don't think that way. I never thought it would be popular in the first place When I first started doing it there was just me and Brian Redband in my fucking living room like and then Comedians Joey Diaz come over Eddie Bravo comes, Ari comes over, we're just having fun. Just talking shit, I never imagined. I didn't plan for it.

Like when everybody has those vision boards, like this is how you become successful, you have to manifest it. I didn't manifest this at all, zero. Most successful thing I've ever done by a long shot. And I've put zero management into it. Though all I've done is just keep doing what I enjoy doing. And it turns out other people enjoy it too. That's it.

It's just talk to people like yourself, talk to funny people, talk to interesting people, talk to people I agree with, talk to people I disagree with, have civil conversations with people you disagree with things. It's good for you too. Just all I do is just do what I enjoy doing if I could do this for free I would still do it okay I enjoy it so you do this podcast yeah you have no aspirations

of this zero the hugest thing ever I don't even have any aspirations for growth I don't say you know by this time next year I'd like to have no no just you just focus on what I'm doing yeah I feel like everything else is a distraction like as long as you're making enough money you know Brian counts at something he wants and I never forgot it he said and we were kids we were in our 20s he said the only amount of money you need is so you can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost everything else is bullshit if you got enough money we can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost. Everything else is bullshit. If you got enough money, you can go to a restaurant, you don't worry.

Just order a bottle of wine, order meat, order whatever you want to eat. You don't have to think about the price. He goes, that's real freedom. Because everything else, like all that other shit, you forget, that's all just, it becomes complicated. You don't need that. What you just, real freedom is the freedom to not worry about your bills That's the real like I experienced that leap that jump

When I got a development deal, so I was like I guess I was 25 26 maybe 25. I got this development deal from Disney and it was like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and I couldn't believe it. I had a hundred fifty thousand dollars this is nuts. And I felt like a physical weight lift over my shoulders because back then I was a road comic, you know, you do a gig on Thursday, it's 200 bucks, you do a gig here, it's 150, you know, you're scraping together enough money so that you could pay your bills and eat. And you were always worried about gigs, always trying to fill my book, always trying to call booking scraping together enough money so you could pay your bills and eat and you were always

worried about gigs. Always trying to fill my book, always trying to call booking agents, drive to Connecticut, drive to Jersey, where do I got to go to make some money? And it was all just trying to stay alive and trying to make it, right? Trying to become like a, like I didn't really think I was a legit professional comedian. It could all go away. And so I got that development deal and it was the nuttiest feeling in the world. It was like I felt lighter. Like I felt lighter.

And then I was like, oh, that's the key. Like get the monkey off your back. Get the bill monkey off your back. And that's the real freedom. The real freedom is not being rich. You don't feel any different being really rich, other than the stuff that you can do. but the way you feel in the day is the same way you feel if your bills are paid. That's what you want. All that other shit is like, the other thing I noticed when I moved to California, it was the first time I had a nice apartment, and I'll never forget this either. I was sitting in my apartment and it was a beautiful place in North Hollywood. I had a loft at a pool table in my apartment. I was like, this is amazing.

How is this real? How is this mine? After a while, it just became my house. And then I realized, like, oh, this is the same feeling I have when I'm home that I had in my shitty apartment in New York. It's the same feeling. It's like, oh, this is home.

It's the same feeling. It's not better. It's not worth the amount of money that it costs if you're like renting a house that's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills. It's not worth that. What's worth it is if it's comfortable. If you have a TV and you have a nice bed and you can cook your meals, you're good.

That's what you need. That's all you need. Everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money to get all these other things leaves you in this constant state of anxiety. I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more. And I just concentrate on what I do. That's all I concentrate on. I concentrate on work. I concentrate on comedy. I concentrate on UFC fights. I concentrate on podcasts.

And I don't think about those other things. I don't think about the direction of my career at all. No, that's a great way to look at things. Because the only thing you really have control of is... What you? Yeah, what you put out? Yeah, so you being a pioneer in the podcast world, right? You and what mark Merritt? I feel like we're kind of Adam. Curry was the first Adam Curry was the original the MTV VJ. He's still got a podcast now. He's excellent He's a good friend of mine and he he's the number one guy. He's the pod father. Okay, he's the pod father He's three named it. They started it off together. Yeah, they started doing it years before I ever did it and

Yeah, Mark had his a little bit before mine Adam Carolla was the first because Adam did it off of radio So Adam had that radio gig where he took over Howard Stern slots when Howard Stern went over to Sirius. Remember that? So he had this morning show and that morning show was doing real well until, do you remember they used to have a talk radio station in LA? Before podcast, there was like Tom Likus was on there and there was a bunch of good shows. And that also made me think about doing podcasts too. I mean, I didn't know that a podcast was ever gonna be a thing, but I was like, this is a talk radio station now.

Like talk radio got so big, mostly because of Howard, I think, but there was a whole station where you could listen to the station. It was all talk radio all day long. There was a science guy on there late night. I forgot what the hell his name was, but yeah you're right there was like a station and all these kind of cool talk formats and what I'm saying is for me I'm not so versed on the history of podcasting but for me I just remember you as being

one of the first guys. Yeah we were one of the first. Okay, so now you're here. When you look at the landscape of podcasting from when you started to where it is now, do you go, wow, this is amazing that all these people are doing it? Could anybody do this? It feels like everybody has a podcast. I feel like there's a specific skill set to podcasting.

Do you look at what you did early on and what you're doing now and go, wow, look at the growth? As far as- It's definitely a lot better. Yeah, I'm definitely better at talking to people. Yeah, it's a skill. You learn it. It makes you a better conversationalist

in the real world for sure. Makes you more considerate. It's like comedy, right? I mean, it's like you weren't the podcaster you were right 15 15 years somewhere around there closing on 15 years. Yeah, so it took 15 years to get it to yeah Obviously you've been successful for longer than but it took a long ass time took a long ass time and and and and I think

nowadays it's just There's amount of time you got to put into something in order for it to be a gem Yes, but you know even just the entertainment landscape as I look at it has entertainment changed Where now we're looking at the phone and we're looking at somebody do something crazy at their house. There's a guy I've been watching this insane, his name is insane, he's catching eggs in his mouth, right? Do you see this guy?

Insane, insane, I forget the name of this, insane Shane. This guy. Catches eggs from how far away? 50 yards, they're throwing eggs in this guy's mouth He's got the best mouth on the internet right does he break the eggs or does he catch them and not like hard? Heart like hard or a meatball oh this guy's chucking meatballs He's catching them in his mouth 50 yards. That's a skill, so I'm watching it, and I can't yeah That's okay, Okay the marshmallow combine

He's not catching all of them no, he's catching them and spitting them out. Oh my god, that's insane Who throws a marshmallow 50 yards? Yeah, I think I think they're like ex that they're like X football players or the guys that are thrown. That's a guy's doing routes Catching marshmallows in his mouth This is crazy people who try to block them. That's crazy. He's catching the marshmallows. That's amazing Okay, so that's a skill. It's so I'm watching this now Right. This is entertainment now. Okay, he's got a million followers insane Shane one. Yeah, shay He's diving off speed boats catching him in his mouth. I mean look at this guy Who would have ever thought that that would be a thing? Oh, he dives into

So has entered is as, in your eyes, changed where, it's changing, where this is now what people are watching instead of maybe a movie or a TV show? Well, it's definitely consuming a lot of your time. I mean, if you look at your screen time, like if I look at my screen time on my phone,

on an average day it'd be more than four hours. And how much of that is doom-scrolling a lot a lot so that's entertainment so would I have been watching television during that time no probably not because you could take your entertainment with you now which is even more distracting yeah but you're not watching you say you did an hour of Instagram yeah you're not watching like a movie or a documentary. Sometimes I am. Yeah. I mean I spend a lot of time doing that too. But I do that in certain places.

Like I'll watch a documentary on an airplane or I'll watch something at home. Right. But I generally don't take my phone and I'm walking around the house watching documentaries. Right? Right, you'd sit down. You would sit down and enjoy that.

But this is something that I would probably, if I was on my phone from the kitchen to the bedroom, I'm watching a guy catch marshmallows. My question to you is, if the internet or social media wasn't around, do you think that guy would be around? No, he wouldn't be doing that. But do you think this was existing 30 years ago where somebody was chucking marshmallows and catching him just for fun? Yeah, and we didn't see it There's probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it and everybody would come ball over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face

Yeah, I'm sure but it just never would have been the discipline that it is now where this guy's got like fucking the guys blocking them And he's juking left and right and catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth. It's pretty impressive stuff So do you think the social media and internet? Spawns this type of stuff 100% 100% yeah 100% and it is a new form that's another thing you could say about podcasting too because before podcasting too, because before podcasting, no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music.

Most of the time, unless you're listening to talk radio, of course. But now the podcast thing is like you could pause it at any time, you could start at any time. So if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two hour road trip, now you're occupied. Now the road it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other shit I don't think most people who consume podcast just sit there and listen or sit there and watch I think a lot of times like maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking you got your earbuds in you're listening to a Podcast or while you're driving or while you're on the fucking treadmill and you're bored You get to listen to some interesting shit and I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me

I was at the gym and I was listening to Shane. It was hilarious You guys are killing me like that kind of stuff is or they this guy with that power plant you Egyptian pyramid guy you believe that what do you think about that? I was in the gym It was kind of freaking me out So it gives you like this opportunity for entertainment that didn't exist before that's not it's not Completely useless right like the scrolling for stuff and the guy catching marshmallows in his mouth I'm not getting anything out of that. It's fun. Yeah, it's interesting It's kind of useless, but podcasts are not and you know you you do get to sit in on interesting conversations

You get to consider ideas that maybe you never considered before. So it wasn't available before. And because of phones, and because everybody has, it's so easy to get a podcast, everybody has access to them. Do you listen to podcasts? Yeah, all the time. Are you going to them for comedy or more informational

podcasts? What's your forte? I listen to a lot of different podcasts. I listen to podcasts that are comedy podcasts. I listen to podcasts that are comedy podcasts. I listen to history podcasts. I listen to podcasts about science. I listen to podcasts about pretty much everything, hunting podcasts, which are very valuable.

Hunting, because hunting, it seems easy. The idea seems easy to people. It's not. It's really hard. And there's a lot of things that people learn Along the way on in their journey of hunting and they'll explain it to you and so if you encountered that I'll say oh Revy Warren said when you do this be careful of that now that's in my head You know so it's just like it's a way that you can accumulate information. Yeah, no I

So it's just like, it's a way that you can accumulate information. Yeah. And I, I, I, I listened to this Huberman. Yeah, he's great. And half of the stuff goes over my head. You know, like, he's hard. He's hard. You got to make, even when I do podcasts with him, I have to make notes. I make notes, then I ask him afterwards and you know, but he's very fact-based and he's

a great guy too. I have to ask you this, talking about Huberven, and you've interviewed him. Do you ever have somebody come on the show where you're nervous to have them? Like, oh man, this is. Oh yeah, definitely. Like, who are you nervous to interview? Roger Penrose, the Nobel Prize winner.

He's just a brilliant mind and older, you know? So I'm like, how is this conversation gonna go? How do I engage him? I don't want him to feel like he's wasting his time here. So I wanna be prepared of good questions. And I don't know how much experience those guys have on podcasts or how much of an experience they have at all

with comedians, you know? I don't wanna fuck around too much. I just wanna just get the most out of him that I can get. Like, I just wanna try to fuck around too much. I just want to just get the most out of him that I can get. Like I just want to try to like massage his wheels and ask the right questions and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to know what the right questions are. Yeah.

And what I'm actually, and also very fascinated by his research. So I really, it's like having an opportunity to talk to such a brilliant person. You know, like his, he's done a lot of research in the Big Bang. He's got a very interesting thought about the Big Bang, that he doesn't think the Big Bang was the beginning

of the universe. And that's something that a lot of physicists are considering now. It's very fascinating stuff. The idea that the universe is eternal, or much older than we think it is. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, you gotta be a chameleon,on and you got so many people different different people coming in here

Yeah comedy to you know Doctors to what have you and you got like a just you do have to adjust. Yeah to every different personality It's just in our form, but it makes you more flexible as a person to it can have conversations with all kinds of people Absolutely. Yeah, it's better. It's I like it It's a lot better than the way I used to think before I started the podcast. In 2009, I was very close-minded. I just was doing it just for fun.

I mean, I was open-minded generally, but not like I am now. I wasn't aware of what I thought and what my biases are and why I think of things in certain ways instead of considering them from like a broader perspective. But when you do a podcast, you're kind of forced to do that because there's a lot of times when even if I agree with someone about something, I have to take the position of someone who's skeptical and ask them a question like, but what about this? So instead

of just confirming them and us existing in an echo chamber, I'll try to offer consideration like okay, but why someone could think of it this way. Do you think of it this way ever? Have you ever tried to think of it this way? And just like see, you know, how their brain works. Because everybody's brain is, you know, they're different. You have children. And one of the things you find out when you have children

is, bro, right out of the box, there are different people. There are different people. It's fascinating. Because you meet a kid and he's four, you're like, look at that smart kid. What an interesting kid. But you don't, you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister and all of them coming out of the same woman

and going, this is all from the same father. Like, this is nuts. They're totally different things. They have different personalities, different likes, different strengths. You know, it's really interesting. Yeah, it's crazy to see. I mean, my daughter and my son, the differences between them. And you don't really notice it or don't really pay attention to it until you have kids of your own and you actually see it going, wow, this one's outgoing, this one's shy, this one likes piano, this one likes T-ball. So it's like, and, this one's outgoing, this one's shy, this one likes piano,

this one likes T-ball, so it's like, and even me and my sister, you have brothers and sisters? Yeah, sister. I mean, my sister and I, although very similar, also very different, and it's really crazy as a parent to, and also you wanna, you know you want to give them structure you want to give them kind of the best things you grew up with from your parents and then put those you know yes to your kids as well but you also want to see them

flourish in their own personality so you know the parenting thing is you know I take it extremely serious like I I want to give I want to be there for my kids I want to you know, I want to I don't want to work so much where you know You know like even even coming to Austin, Texas for podcasts or going to Dallas for a show It's like yeah, you have to think about yeah It never used to think as I would be like bookie Just get it just book it and now it's more like hey You know are we coming to this run? Are you guys gonna come to New York? Right right that helps a lot. It helps me a lot if I could take my family with me

You know I take them with me a lot of times on Vegas UFC trips, too. It's nice Yeah, it's nice especially now that the kids are getting older that yeah travel also Vegas is a fun place to do stuff You know, there's other stuff we could do before the fights is stuff like I don't know if you ever done escape rooms You ever do escape rooms? I'm claustrophobic I'm claustrophobic And this just happened to me

Don't get that tank then don't get that I sensory deprivation tag I could do that. It happened to me on an airplane. Oh, no sitting at the window seat It just overcame me. I Get out of here And oh no ever since then like I get I have to have an aisle seat if I go to a theater and watch a show. I can't be confined. You just came out of nowhere? Out of nowhere, on an airplane. Wow.

And I had to go in the back for two hours and hang out with the flight attendants and like stand the rest of the time. Wow. Did you tell them what was going on? Yeah, I said, listen. I'm freaking out. Just so you know. I'm freaking out

I'm crawling out of my skin. I'm sitting next to two people. I feel like I'm trapped. I can't get out So I'm very anxious now if I get out an airplane And here's one. Okay get out of an airplane. I Hate hate to do this, but there's a family, and the father's like, do you mind changing seats so my daughter could sit next to me? I said, well, where's the seat? And he's like, it's the window seat. And I go, hey, I can't go over there because I'm claustrophobic.

And of course, he was looking at me like I was making it up because I would've. Right. I mean, if somebody told me that, I'd go I let this fucking asshole right let me sit with my daughter right But it's so bad where I just I can't sit at the window well. He could always ask somebody else You know he could just ask someone else yeah, but But you were by yourself feel like I feel like I let him down. Yeah, I'm sure you did yeah I'm never that guy. I'm always very cooperative, whatever we need.

Yeah, me too. I'll always move seats. I'm always worried about other people freaking out. Like there was a video that just went viral recently of some guy saying he was gonna take the plane down. This guy stood up in the middle. You see that guy, Jamie? I've seen a few, I don't know if you've seen him.

There's a few lately. That's what I always worry about. I worry about someone freaking out. I worry about another person that you're gonna have to deal with. I feel though, if's for you stab people, didn't he stab someone? He had like a little knife on him and he stabbed a couple people. Yeah, he was saying that he was gonna take everybody out. Oh, God. I feel if you're on an airplane and that's happening, you would be one of these guys that would handle it, right? Yeah, the problem with handling it is,

you're probably gonna get sued, and you might even get arrested. It depends on how much damage you do. You know, you could permanently damage someone. You could... People are very flippant about beating people up, but you could easily people are very flipping about beating people up but you could easily permanently damage someone no I believe me I believe you can I'm

just saying you have that I think that instinct you know like what's the problem where I have more of an instinct of is there a Joe Rogan on the plane I was on a plane once that a lady asked me if I would help her because these two guys were fighting one guy Got in first and he put his briefcase Above this other guy's seat and then he sat down and the guy who was right behind it goes no No, that's my spot. That's my seat that spot over here is no, it's not it's first come first serve put it somewhere else It was open. I put it in there and he goes no that belongs to my seat And then they started getting like belligerent with each other It started getting like to the point like oh my god

Are these kids gonna fight in first class and so then this fucking lady who is the? The flight attendant she came in and told them both she was gonna have them removed from the plane sit down shut up And then she came to me and she goes if anything goes down You're gonna help me, right? Like what do you want me to do because if I'm gonna help you it's gonna get real messy Are you gonna say that you said it was okay for me to do that to that guy Like you know I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna play nice If you're on a plane, you've gotta take someone out,

you have a very short amount of movement. It's gotta be very violent. You gotta debilitate them. You gotta like take them apart right there. You can't like hope that you can hold on to them and then they relax, then what, you go back to your seat? They're not gonna, you gotta put them out. Yeah.

You gotta, you got it You got a risk You got a risk You know as you're talking to me I feel like you're going through a bunch of different moves of what you could possibly do It's got to be violent if you're gonna if you got a guy like that with a knife. You're not go grabbing that guy You're not just grabbing that guy and bringing him to the ground and and holding him down You're gonna beat his fucking brains in you're gonna stop his body from moving

Because otherwise it's dangerous like you you're in a position where you're being forced to use violence against some Irrational possibly schizophrenic who knows what the fuck's going on with this guy. And he could kill everybody. Pastor stabs fellow traveler with weapon of pens and rubber bands on Seattle to Vegas flight. Okay, so what's going on? He fashioned a hand-made weapon before launching an unprovoked attack against a man seated across the aisle. Yeah. Flying. Flying used to be look at his panty So he developed made a weapon out of his pens. He tied all his pens together and held on to them

Wow, he said I planned on attacking and killing him the defendant stated Jesus Christ Defendant felt the Mafia had been chasing him the last few months. Yeah, so you go so he's schizophrenic and You know they don't have fucking scans for that when they bring them in Oh during the interview the defendant admitted to the FBI agents that he was trying to stab CR in the eye To reach CR his brain to kill him. Okay, and said he was protecting his seven-year-old son The victim's wife was also hurt in the attack. She was shielding the couple's seven-year-old son. Jesus Christ, man. So this guy just decided that this guy was in the mafia

that was coming after him and he snaps and he wants to kill him. What's going on on airplanes? Why is there all this violence now on airplanes? First of all, there's a lack of respect for authority that came with the whole defund the police thing. So there's like, people are more belligerent towards authority. So you have that. And then you have the the general heightened level of anxiety of the population post COVID went up

substantially. COVID fucked a lot of people's lives up. We got lucky. We were very fortunate. We make money. We were very fortunate. We make money. We were able to make money during the pandemic. We had enough money to be go, okay, a lot of people, that's not the case. So so many people lost their businesses. So many people lost their livelihoods. So many people have a deep distrust for the government and the world now. And then there's this thing where people are being coddled for being mentally ill, where

you're almost like having a mental illness is something you can talk about, it makes you interesting. So I think people encourage mental illness, they encourage breakdowns, and they do it all the time in the real world, and so they think they could do it on fucking planes. And then you got genuinely mentally ill people who are just out of their fucking minds, who really shouldn't be out there in the world And you know they think the mafia is after them and they're making a fucking handmade shank while they're sitting in 16a You know the whole thing's nuts And it's just like I think people are just much more on edge right now than they've ever been before

And I think a lot of it is a function of mainstream media. You're being Fed every day the worst shit that's happening in the world. Gaza, Ukraine, you know, the fucking oceans boiling. Oh my God, what is happening? Putin's doing this and Xi Jinping is in control of that and the fucking borders open. Ah, fentanyl. Ah! You know, it's just like everyone's on edge. So you get all those people, you stick them in a fucking tube and then you fly them through the air where there's no one that's really, there's no authority figure on that plane.

There's these women, these poor women or men or whoever they are that's flight attendants that have to fucking deal with these people. And most of them are just regular people. They're not, I mean, they do have Those guys that hide undercover that are on planes occasionally. What do they call those guys? Yeah, what do they call them air marshals? They stop doing that great They did all the security right to get all the security to get on the plane once you're on the plane no security

Yeah, they got they got security guys walking around Whole Foods making sure you don't steal an apple. Yet you're 35,000 feet up and what, the flight attendant's gonna subdue a guy with pens? Exactly, and who's gonna get hurt along the way? What if he did stab that guy in the eye? Jesus Christ. Even Mike Tyson got in a fucking fight on a plane some guy kept fucking with him

He turned around and beat the shit out of the guy and now Mike's getting sued. I saw that Yeah, you think I should go they should ship that guy somewhere where it's terrible. You gotta live here now What's what's would you take on this Tyson thing? I? Go back and forth. Um, I don't generally like the idea of 58 year old men fighting. It seems crazy risky at this point in your life. You're definitely going to be slower. You're definitely going to be your reflex is going to be slower. You can't take shots as much. But I don't think that a 50 year old man today or 58-old man today is the same thing as what we thought of as a 58-year-old man when we were kids because of hormone replacement. So because of nutrition, hormone replacement, science of recovery, and they've got Mike

Tyson doing everything. He's doing all kinds of things. He's not a regular 57-year-old guy. And then you see him hit the pads, he go Jesus Christ man. I mean this is a terrifying human Mean he's Still fucking terrifying hitting the bag hitting the pads That he still has the ability to deliver those punches and if any one of those hits anybody they're fucked you're fucked He's not it's not like

His punches are you know 30% of what they used to be they're like 80 to 90 percent of what they used to be yeah Somewhere in that range. It's probably a little slower than he used to be he used to be insanely fast There's a video of Tyson hitting the bag as a 19 year old and he's throwing these combinations like He's 210 pounds 215 pounds throwing combinations like sugary Leonard like it's it's insane to watch he was so fast And that was a big factor in his success. He does not have that kind of speed anymore, but he's still fast He's not slow, but Joe. I mean we're just we're watching a 58 year old man crazy right now now if you will thirty four years ago looked at if I was watching the We are the world documentary and I'm looking at the people

Kenny Rogers is in that and I'm going I'm probably 60 years old here and I look at it's 47 in 47 years old in the we are the world so the the aging process has I mean There was no way 58 year. Yeah, it's 47. That's crazy younger than I am. That's crazy. He looks He's like he's 10 years younger than me in that video Yeah, yeah, so Yeah, the 58 year old man now young-ass Billy Joel Tina Turner

Willie Nelson look young damn how old willy Nelson there? I know 100 90 now I know how old 52 years old in that video is Is he really? Yeah, it's amazing So you're right 58 years old is it's very different different. What was foreman when he came back 45 when he won the title He was 33 I think he was 33 or 36 when he was coming back and everyone was mocking him and then he beat Michael Moore when he was 45 years old

He's the oldest man to ever win the heavyweight title and And that was before hormone replacement. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think Tyson is a 45 year old foreman, no? Yeah, it's similar. I mean, foreman wasn't as fast even back then as Tyson is now. Tyson's still faster. But he's smaller too. George is a very big man. George has enormous, he has hands that are like the size, his fists are like the size of a cigar box. They're like the size his fists like the size of a cigar box. They're fucking giant fists Which is a big factor in punching power, you know This was George at 45 years old And Michael Moore who was a sensational light heavyweight was kind of undersized as a heavyweight. Mm-hmm As a light heavyweight, he was a fucking assassin But George caught him with a one-two

and put him out at 45 years, in a fight he was losing. Michael Moore was outboxing him. But here, even at 45, you don't look at him. Boom! He don't look like no Tyson at 58 though, right? No, he was much slower. But George was always kind of slow. He just has thunderous power.

He was never like a real fast guy, like Ali or any of those other guys. He was just thunderous ridiculous power George was just terrifying and I don't know the ins and outs of boxing But is this Logan Paul is he a is he a legitimate box a legitimate boxer? Yes, people mocked me when I was saying that before, but now I think people are coming around. And the way I look at it, I say if this kid was not a YouTuber, if he wasn't some guy that you knew from the time

he was like 16 years old on YouTube, and you just saw him box, and you saw him knock out former UFC champions, you saw him beat legitimate boxers, or beat athletes, and beat a bunch of MMA fighters You'd go this kid can fucking fight. He knows how to fight like it's not it's not nothing. He's doing looks wrong He's not like sticking his head straight up in the air and winging punches with his eyes closed. He's fighting well He looks good, and if he was just an up-and-coming boxer that was this exciting Like highly promotable like really good at selling fights. He'd be like this kid's the future

He's really something special and the fact that he's willing to fight Tyson even if Tyson's 57 Just the fact that he's willing to actually take a chance and Mike Tyson not being able to do what he used to do Because that's what he's doing that should the gamble is like there's not a fucking chance in hell That Jake Paul would survive Against the Mike Tyson that beat Marvis Frazier you ever watch that fight Yeah, that's my favorite Mike Tyson fight because that was Mike Tyson before he won the title It was ABC wide world of sports and Joe Frazier was had been talking shit about Tyson that if he's in his prime he'd beat Tyson and so he had a son fight Tyson and it was an execution it was an

execution that the one in Atlantic City where it lasted one round one round and let's let's watch it because it's one of my favorite fights to watch ties because it's Tyson in his prime where he was fucking terrifying He was so fast and he would do angles and he was bobbing and weaving you couldn't hit him and he was just coming At you and he was young. He was 20 years old at the time. He was he couldn't be stopped No one had the solution and I I submit that that Mike Tyson, the Mike Tyson that won the title against Trevor Burbeck, the Mike Tyson that beat Larry Holmes, I think that Mike Tyson is the best heavyweight of all time.

I don't think anybody fucks with him. It's just he didn't maintain that form and he wound up losing to Buster Douglas. I look at fighters when they're in their absolute prime. Like what have you ever seen that was better than this? And with Mike Tyson, I've never seen anybody better. I've never seen any fighter, even Ali in his prime, even Ali when he was Cassius Clay. I never saw anybody who looked like Mike Tyson in his prime. I think it's just you can't maintain the kind of focus that was required to be this guy. Look at me, Marvis looks fucking terrified and he

should be. Because he kind of knows, I mean Marvis was a good fighter. Marvis was a good fighter, but this is just a terrifying mismatch. Like if I had if I was a Vegas oddsmaker I would put this at a million to one. I'm like he has to break his leg like he has to fall down and twist an ankle like otherwise he's so Tyson was 20 and Frazier was 25. So do you think this is this is the last we see of a guy like a Tyson is there another Tyson out there or is it? They can always emerge. Combat sports always, so this is the beginning of the fight. Look he's just moving forward and Frazier's just trying to just bob and weave and find

his openings but Mike never gives you any time man. He never gives you any time. He's always right in front of you and he's just measuring you and it's just a matter of time before he catches you and here it is. Bing! Look at this. Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow.

Bro, he just puts him away. Just puts him away. It's an execution. It was just a matter of Mike Tyson closing the distance. This Mike Tyson, as fast as he was, as hard as he hits, I maintain he's the greatest. Yeah, I mean. The greatest heavyweight ever.

Like that Mike Tyson, those fights were, you wanted to see executions. You didn't think anybody was going to beat him. Everybody he fought looked like they were about to die when they were in that ring. I don't think we see this again, Joe. You never know. It can happen. Jake Paul's favorite. He's a favorite.

Yeah. Well, he's 27 years old and he's a really good boxer. He's a very good boxer. and he's a really good boxer. He's a he's a very good boxer like he's a legitimate professional boxer He fought Tommy Fury who's also a legitimate professional boxer a real good one he's you know, he's Tyson Fury's younger brother and he Lost a close decision, but it was a good fight a real good fight against a good fighter He can fight. Yeah, but if that Mike Tyson from Marvis Frazier fought Jake Paul, Jake Paul's dead, he's dead, he's not gonna make it.

So you have to say how much has Mike Tyson lost from that 20 year old guy in the 37 years since then, which is crazy, it'll be 38 by the time they fight. He'll have turned 58 by the time they actually fight. Yeah, but that's the best it gets, right? The best it gets. The best it gets. After 37 years, you gotta feel like it's,

yeah, he's lost some, but coming from- He hasn't lost everything. He hasn't lost everything. If you see him hit those pads, he has not lost everything. But he's lost some, but coming from the best, he's now like maybe just normal, right? He's still not normal, but he's still like maybe just normal right he's still not normal but he's

still like a professional heavyweight boxer he's he's still terrifying no I'm not saying he's not but I'm just saying even even coming off the best I still think he he wins you coming off it's hard to say because you never bet on against a 27 year old fighting a 58 year old. What I have in my brain and I can't get out is that. It's also his mind. Mike Tyson's mind has switched over into war. He was doing this interview and someone said to him, he goes, you look like you're in your

20s. What are you doing? He goes, I just eat raw meat. He goes, I eat raw meat. He look like you're in your 20s like what are you doing he goes I just eat raw meat so I eat raw meat he goes you're eating raw meat he goes yeah I'm eating raw meat he goes because that's what I'm gonna eat when I fight I'm gonna eat him it's raw meat yeah he's like Jesus Christ he's in this fucking mode he's in that God of War mode and that he's still got that in him and I'm telling you if you keep giving that guy Hormones and you keep giving that guy supplements and you keep and he's constantly training his

my opponent's gonna be raw meat. That's right. Did you look like 20 years ago? Now, I saw the beginning of this interview where he had a shirt on, right? He was sweating so much he had to take the shirt off. He took his shirt off, and they just put the microphone on his shoulder. Yeah.

Bro, he's in savage mode right now. He's in savage mode. If I was Jake Paul right now, I would be shitting my pants. Oh, bro, if I'm fighting this guy, and he's eating raw meat, I call the fucking thing off. It's all the experiences that he has had as a conqueror. You have to take those into consideration. When a man has smashed men before, just smashed men, like when no one can stand in front of him, that is in his mind still.

That's in there. There's a dark chamber in his mind that he can open up. And I think he's got it open. The question is, can his body move along with it? But that part of his mind, you're clearly seeing, he's terrifying when he's in the zone. I changed the shape of the table because of him. This table was, we

had the table that was this size at the old studio and the new studio I was like maybe we'll make the table smaller it'll be more intimate, it'll be closer to the guest. So we had Mike Tyson in when he was 300 pounds and he was just eating and having fun and smoking weed he goes I don't even work out He goes if I work out or excite myself it'll excite my ego and then I don't like that person So he just decided that he was just gonna be chill Mike Tyson and then he got this offer to fight Roy Jones, Jr Yeah, so he gets in insane shape and the next time I see him the second podcast we do Mike now weighs 230 pounds and he's

got these muscles in his forearms. So he's sitting there and he's a different human. He's so intense that I was like, if this table was closer to him, I would be nervous. Like I wouldn't be able to do my best job as a podcaster. I literally, this, the reason why this table is this width is the second podcast I do with Mike Tyson even Jamie Jamie when Mike left Jamie's like that's a different person. There's a totally different person, right? So intense he was so intense and that was a fight with Roy Jones jr. Where he just decided you know to have one more

Legends fight and he got like look at him dude. He's just what the hell You got both things playing at the same time hold on a second You had animosity towards so when you finally get your hands on them. Hey, um, What does it mean um, When fighting gets you get you rekt. What does that mean? It's a good question. Gee Means you're getting excited. Yeah So that that's going through your mind right now. Well, that's how I get when I was a kid. Sometimes I get the twinkle.

The twinkle? Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. You reached a state as a human being, as a champion, as a ferocious fighter. You reached a state of ability and of accomplishment that very few humans will. I don't know if you can hear him breathing.

He's breathing. Yeah. It's like a lion. Listen, running. When you're hitting a bag, when that heart's beating again. Accomplishment that very few humans will I don't hear him breathe these breathe When you're hitting the bag when that heart's beating again, and because I'm firing them up right now You're Mike motherfucking Tyson so when you're doing all this shit again, you're still Mike Tyson those thoughts I've got to be burning inside you again. It's got to be pretty wild It's wild but I believe is um's rightfully so to be that way. I don't think I'm master, but I just know how to deal with it. I don't let it overwhelm me. No. Of course not.

It was a strange conversation to have because he was so focused and know It was it was almost hard pulling conversation out of them at any time. Did you feel afraid? I'm always afraid with him around that guy. Kevin Hart said it best. He goes it's like being a room with a lion It's like someone a lot of people let loose in the room. They'll know who's it is James got to play him an amuse a movie which has got to be terrifying like don't piss that guy off I never talked like that. Oh, sorry. Sorry sir I'm I'm curious. I'm gonna watch the fight. We're all gonna watch the fight. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it I mean, it's a brilliant move by Jake Because like if he was gonna fight anybody else people would watch but with the same amount of people watch? No. No. This is the one and this is the one

where the old heads are all sitting around like going, wait till he gets a hold of Mike Tyson. Boy he's gonna regret that. And all the old guys are like pulling for him like, come on Mike, come on, one more more you got one more in you Well, I think we see a different Mike Tyson than we did when he fought Roy Jones, I think the Roy Jones fight they made an agreement not to punch in the head I'm pretty sure because I watched that fight carefully many times and it never looked like he was targeting Roy's head Which makes sense why Roy agreed to do the fight? Mm-hmm, you know, I think they probably made an agreement It would be like a real boxing match, but just don't knock me out

Because Roy is a smaller person much smaller Roy was the at his very best He was 168 pounds and then when he was weighing a 175 pounds. He you know he didn't even have to cut weight He was playing he Roy famously played a basketball game a full basketball game the day of his fight Played a basketball game and then went and boxed the face off of somebody for 12 rounds You know, that's how good Roy was in his prime, but Roy was 168 pounds in his prime. He wasn't Mike Tyson size Mike Tyson's fucking enormous He's just a different mass. He's the width the density It's terrifying and if they're older guys

I could imagine them making an agreement because if you watch the highlights Mike never punches him in the face And even if they do punch each other in the face It seems like it's just like jabs and small punches. It does you know like almost like sparring shots It's not like anybody's like really like winding up You know, but really like what really like throwing everything at it this fight doesn't have that stipulation No, I do not believe that's the case. I think this fight is gonna be a real full bore 100% fight It's not even an exhibition it counts on their professional record, so it's a professional fight, okay? Yeah, is it eight rounds?

Yeah, they made it two minute rounds because Tyson's old and they they were gonna do 16 ounce gloves with it down to 14 I believe is that the case I think they're 14 ounce gloves, which is not not much bigger than a regular glove You know regular gloves 10 ounces in the heavyweight division 6 ounces and lighter divisions I think they use 8 and some divisions too But most like big guys use 10 ounce gloves Yeah, it's just it's Again talk about the change of entertainment even in the boxing world Mm-hmm. We interviewed Dana White on our podcast and he's got I'm sure you're aware of the slapping. Yeah thing, right? Yeah now

Is that just If if I slapped you right now, right is that different than taking a punch not at all No, it no terrible for you Yeah, you do they're basically agreeing to brain damage. They're agreeing to let each other get slapped in the head Because you have to get slapped you have to stand there and get slapped and the only thing that could save you is if Your slap is so good, and you win the coin toss or whatever the fuck they do decide who slaps who first Yeah, you slap that guy guy unconscious and then it's over. And it happens.

Guys get slapped unconscious. I mean, it's, you're literally taking a full-on blow to the face. Your hand can hit pretty hard. If you just think, think of that. Yeah. Try doing that with your knuckles. It's hard to do. It hurts.

Yeah. It doesn't hurt at all when you do that. You can slam. So you could really fucking slap someone. You know, guys have knocked guys out, slapping them many times. It's not hard to knock. You could KO someone. Boss Rooten was one of the all-time greats in MMA, and he started his fighting in an organization called Pancrase. And Pancrase in Japan, this is the early days days but like as the UFC was just emerging

They started doing fights with no gloves on but they said instead of punching you could only slap So what boss rootin he's got very flexible wrists So you pull his hands way back like this and he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands So he wasn't throwing him like you would think like a bitch slap way back like this and he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands. So he wasn't throwing them like you would think like a bitch slap. He was throwing punches with his palms. He was uppercutting guys and knocking them unconscious with his palms. So that is what you're agreeing to when you're standing in front of a guy and you're letting

a guy whoop you in the head. You're agreeing to getting, you could easily get KO'd. Easily get your jaw broken. Easily get your eye socket shattered. This is Boss. So look how he, see how he dropped that guy with that palm strike? With the way he throws it, it's like a punch. Boss was a fucking animal. He was an animal, like terrifying human being.

Great guy, but man, in his prime, he was just fucking animal. He was an animal like terrifying human being great guy, but man in his prime. He was just Destroying people he was one of the first high-level strikers that made his way into Mixed martial arts and he eventually became the UFC heavyweight champion was he what was the Boxer from Holland the motherland of kickboxing. Oh, yeah, some of the all-time greats came at Holland Yeah, this for one for whatever strange reason it was like It was a background of Kyoka shin and that a lot of them got into kickboxing and Muay Thai and there was a guy named Ramon Deckers He's like to this day one of the most legendary Muay Thai fighters of all times

This dude came out of Holland and went over to Thailand and just fucked everybody up. You ever heard of Ramon Deckers? Show Ramon Deckers highlight reel. He was like a mini kickboxing Mike Tyson. Yeah. This dude was a monster. Because a lot of the guys that went over to Thailand, they were bigger than the Thais. But Ramon Deckers was the same size as the Thais.

But he was just fucking ferocious. Look at this motherfucker. Bro, he kicked guys so hard that he shattered his ankle so many times that he had to get it fused. And his doctor was like, you have to stop fighting or you know, you're going to lose your foot. And he was like yeah yeah yeah whatever just fucking bolt this thing down so i could get back at it again i mean his highlight

reel is just fucking terrifying it's just him mauling people but these these kicks right i mean doesn't it hurt the kicker as much as it does no not as much but it definitely hurts i mean especially if you hit the instep on like an elbow or something like that Yeah, but shins shins are pretty good at tolerating pain Joe come on. I mean I I hit my shin On the my bed frame I'm down. Yeah That's just well you get conditioned You know you get the condition to the get conditioned you know you get conditioned

to the point where you can you can bang your sh** against things don't these guys train on trees yeah they train on banana trees in Thailand they'll do they kick banana trees but banana trees are pretty soft you can kick a banana tree and they give out they give a little bit when you hit them it's not like a regular tree I've never seen a banana tree I kicked one just to see what it was like because I seen a lot of videos of these guys kicking them Yeah, they're it's not the worst thing to kick It gives a little bit. So there is see cuz it gives see how it gives when he's kicking it

It's flexible like you could actually train on a banana tree. It's not a bad thing to train on. Let's get that right in half. Yeah, see, it moves. It's really not that much different than a heavy bag. It just looks crazy because you're like, my God, he's kicking a tree. Yeah, yeah. But there's heavy bags.

Like we have a heavy bag out there in the gym that's, my friend Kevin Ross gave it to me, and it's filled with sand. And that's just to condition your shins. That one's horrible. That one you kick it's like, oh. What are they normally? Usually it's cushioning, like there's foam and then it depends on what the stuffing is.

Sometimes they stuff it with rags and cloth and stuff like that. And the whole idea is it's really packed down tight and it's heavy. So it's like 130, 150 pounds and it's long and you can do leg kicks on it And but the sand one is as hard as a rock. It's just dud Dud and you do that just to condition your shins. That's the one you practice on just to condition yourself Yeah, I wish I could do some of this stuff with the I've always wanted to get into a fighting just for self-defense But I have detached my biceps. So I have holes in my arm. I have no bicep.

Well, I have a bicep, but just not that the short one is gone. How did it detach? Woke up and no bicep. What? Really? Yeah, nothing happened. There's no trauma that I could Point pinpoint that this happened now. I have kids I was putting them in the car Maybe it felt something no didn't feel nothing really looking in the mirror one day and I know I took brought my wife over I go is there a hole in my arm?

It's not now I show you let me see oh Wow I've seen guys have that before My friend Matt Sarah has that he is like his bicep when he makes a bicep like half of it is missing Okay, it's like it curled up on one side. That's there's a fighter Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a comedian. Yeah, and I got a hole in my arm that is why but you have most of your bicep Yeah, but that's an underside to the same side that one, but did you go to a doctor? Yeah? He says nothing you could do about it

But he says detached it's gone gone and you don't know why no I well here both so then I'm thinking do I got some weird Mediterranean type disease where like shit starts detaching people from sit my dad's got it really but he Put a luggage and overhead compartment. That's what his snap his bigger bicep is living in his elbow No, Jesus, and you should get that fixed if you do it right away right away. I didn't catch it right away Compart and that's what his snap his bigger bicep is living in his elbow. No Jesus and You can get that fixed if you do it right away right away. I didn't catch it right away So it seems like with you there was no trauma No, it doesn't even make any sense no sense everybody that I know that's done that like it's usually boxing or jiu-jitsu or lifting weights Or something like that. It's

Painful as fuck instantly There's a video of a guy doing curls and as he's doing curls his biceps snaps and curls up you see like yeah it's horrible it's horrible and I've heard the same thing but it's painful but I have no pain no nothing well it doesn't seem like it affects your range of motion either no there's no you can do everything there's no problem but now I'm thinking can I even work out the bicep? Because I'm afraid that one's gonna snap

No You should because if you don't the bicep is not gonna be strong enough to do the extra work that's required missing that other one Mm-hmm. Yeah, definitely you you're fine. You're fine. Yeah, you could do everything You just got to get strong. Just let's just strengthen all the surrounding tissue. You're fine You just got to get strong just let's just strengthen all the surrounding tissue. You're fine What's the ads of a guy who doesn't really do any Strenuous no tennis no nothing like that nothing to lose both of his biceps right by 50, right? And now I got it in my head that everything's gonna fall everything's a snap Yeah, but you haven't bought lost your biceps your biceps are there And now I got it in my head that everything's going to fall apart. Everything's going to snap.

Yeah, but you haven't lost your biceps. Your biceps are there. It's like whatever that other thing is that attaches, that's not there anymore. But I don't think you need that. I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about it. Legitimately, I wouldn't worry about it. I would just start working out.

I would just like get really into like strengthening everything around it. That's what I do. Especially since you can't fix it. Can't fix it. But Matt does everything. I mean, Matt is a black belt in jujitsu and his biceps way worse than yours. His is pulled all the way up to the top. So like at the bottom, like when you make a muscle like this part, he doesn't have this part.

Yeah. It's just flat. Yeah, it's my dad. And it's like a little bit up here. I've seen a bunch of people who have that. Okay. That's a common flat. Yeah, it's my and it's like a little bit up here. I've seen a bunch of people have that okay That's a common thing Yeah, I'm just shocked that it happened so early in life That doesn't make sense that didn't hurt at all that seems weird strange, but you seem like you have full range of motion Yeah, I'm all fine. I'm

I'm active But I used to love biceps. Yeah, they're still there. I used but Oh alone in a mirror with the shirt off, you know, I get no Used to love to oh, yes. I love to stare yourself. Yeah Those were my favorite my favorite exercise that's the thing thing and oh yeah, I literally never do that I Never do biceps ever well the growing up. That's what we always just right 20s 30s 40s Mm-hmm doing it yeah buys right and girls for the girls girls for the girls, right and now I got holes in my arm I don't think it'll affect you. I bet you could still do bicep curls. No problem at all

I bet your biceps will grow. I don't think it's a problem. I don't think it's a problem. Okay, I don't know what happened I don't understand it seems weird and maybe I feel like you it happened when you were way younger You just didn't notice it. Maybe you got older your body changed. No nothing. It's just a dramatic Esthetics that I mean that Aesthetically you would have So you just noticed it one day. One day doing my hair. Weird. Dropped my arms, looked in the mirror.

I said, I thought it was a shadow from the thing. I go, oh, it must be a shadow. But no, it's a. There's a hole. It's a hole. And I didn't catch it in time, and now I'm walking around with no biceps. That's so strange.

But you do have biceps. Well, yeah. Missing one of those things. One of the biceps. I don't think it but you do have biceps. Well, yeah missing one of those things You didn't need it obviously I weren't using it fell apart gave up it's like an appendicitis Muscle it just quit on you Do you have a trainer? Yeah, so how often you work out I Do about three or four days with the trainer and I do two days Pilates. Oh nice, which has helped my sciatica so I started three months ago. I

Have had sciatica two and a half years Affecting everything including my comedy because I'm physical. I like to move But the pain was relentless Mmm, and I'm like I got it. I didn't want to get the surgery pain was relentless. And I'm like I got it. I didn't want to get the surgery. Was it a disectomy that they're trying to get you to do? It was spinal. I don't know what exactly because I don't listen and I don't know anything as far as like the research. The guy told me what it was. I'm like okay well one ear out the other. But stenosis of the spine that's what was happening and whatnot so and some l3 l4

Oh for you know you need to get that it'll help you a lot a lot. There's a thing called the the decks It's a it's one of those Teeter products where you you hook your legs to this thing and you lean your body forward You know those ones you hang by your ankles those are good. Those are really good They're great for a lot of reasons, but this one is my favorite for low back decompression. This thing right here. We have one out there I'll show it to you. It's called the Dex 2. It's an inversion and core training system. But the thing that it does the best is when your legs are supported, you

know, you could do like back extensions and stuff on it But I really don't use it for that mostly what I use it for is just decompressing so I get on it and all your weight is now on your thighs and all the weight of your upper body from your hips down is Just decompressing and you feel it pop like I'll lie in it. It goes pop pop pop pop Oh, yeah, like I'll feel it decompress. It's amazing. I love it.

And it also you can do back extensions when you're on that same incline and it's really good for strengthening those muscles. And also sometimes that helps me loosen them up even more. I'll do a set of back extensions on it and then I'll really like deeply relax and let it pop. All right. Yeah, decompression of the back and spine is very important

That's why yoga is so good because you're stretching and decompressing things and if you're tight And then everything tight as you get older like you just keep shrinking You know that's what happens old people they're fucking the space in between their spine goes away And then they get this hunch, and then they're immobile. Yeah, you don't want to be a mom No, no, and I they get this hunch and then they're immobile. Yeah. You don't want to be immobile. No, no. And I felt like this Ligri Pilates have definitely changed my life. Pilates is amazing. They're very, very good for that. Yoga, very, very, very good for that. Anything where you're using your whole body like that, you know? And it's for a lot of people, there's a lot of contributing factors that lead to

sciatica. There's tightness of the hamstrings, there's tightness of the upper quads that also affects your lower back and compresses everything. When I have back pain, one of the things that I do is I sit on my heels and I lean all the way back. So if my leg's bent and it really stretches out my upper legs, my thighs, my quads, and when I do that, I feel it in my lower back. Like I feel my lower back relaxing.

Like I feel it stretching out, and then I'll do a bunch of other different exercises like that but that's what keeps me from having back pain. Yeah, the importance of stretching I've found is... It's huge. Huge. It's huge. And everybody's lazy. Nobody wants to stretch.

Even me. Even when I get done with a workout, I'm like, I could stretch. I should stretch. I want to go eat. And sometimes I'll just go eat. But most of the time I stretch. And when I do, I always feel way better.

Before a big show, I always stretch. Always. In the back? Yeah. I just lay down on the floor and start stretching. And when I do that, everything just feels better. Because the physical tension that you carry in your body, if you can mitigate some of that just you feel looser get out there you feel loose It's just age really crept up on me. I'm

Really crept up on me. It's a motherfucker. I'm doing all I can to to kind of combat How old do you know 50 when you see guys that are 50 that don't take care of themselves though? You see the difference that's scary Yeah, that's scary when a guy's never taking care of himself And then he's 50 and you really you're in a state of total I could pull your arm apart I could just grab your arm and pull it away from your shoulder socket There's nothing keeping that thing in there like you just you made out of jello Yeah, your body doesn't have any need to be strong because it never gets used. So your body just deteriorates

and this like sunken lump. And now you're in pain all the time and now you've got problems all the time. Now you don't have the fucking energy to do things that you want to do. For me, the whole thing is mitigating mental illness, like mitigating anxiety and stress and anger. Get that out, clean your mind out, and then make sure you have energy. The only way you can get things done is if you have fucking energy, especially like writing. Like, people don't consider writing a physical health thing, but if you're tired, you're not gonna write as good. You're not gonna have the enthusiasm, you're not gonna have the energy. It's like for everything, you need energy.

And there's only one way to get that. You have to have a healthy body. You have to. It's like a part of the job. It should be a part of the job. I tried to tell it to fat comedians. I'm like, I know you're great, but look, we lost Patrice when he was in his 40s. If Patrice was alive today,

he'd have the number one podcast in the world. Patrice was alive today, he'd be selling out arenas. We lost him because he just didn't take care of himself. That's it It's the only reason why no, it's super important not only for the comedy, but even looking at my kids now I'm an older father. So I want to do those things with my yeah, they're be skiing right? I have fun. They went skiing where we went skiing in December and Right. Have fun. They went skiing, where we went skiing in December. And my wife loves skiing. And of course, I'm at the fucking bottom of the hill

waiting for the... I'm pitching... I'm, uh, you know what I've become? Or was becoming? Say hi to daddy! You know, like, we go to Disneyland. They're on the rides. You don't do the rides? Oh, fuck, no. I never do the rides.

I throw up in my lap when I do these rides really yeah all of them. Yeah, no Space Mountain So fun I got a weak stomach barely take the takeoff on a letalone drop in claustrophobia yeah, I'm a mess bro claustrophobia no biceps and and fear of rollercoaster things can be a lot worse no I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine I complained for the sake of calm I know but but I'm I'm blessed yeah you're

you're back out here in August what are you doing in August I'm doing the Moody Center nice Great great venue. I've never been there. I heard it's brand new, but it's yeah, it's amazing. It's an amazing venue Yeah, it's uh, this is a great town for comedy right now There's a lot of a lot of big-time comedy fans here now. Yeah Well, I mean the your club which I'm dying to do and I'm sorry that I didn't get out here to do it, but I definitely wanna do the ship. I hear great things about it. Yeah, next time you're in town, come by

and hang out with us for a couple of days. We do shows Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays are my shows, and this show's seven nights a week. Great, yeah, I wanna make it more of a meal next time I come out. This is kind of an in and out thing. I wanna utilize the, I wanna see if I can get in the tank. Yeah, this is kind of an in-and-out thing. I want to I want to utilize the I Want to see if I get in the tank? Yeah. Yeah, you can do it. Maybe maybe I want to get an edible first

Want to really do it? No, you know what baby steps I want to do an edible but I wanted like I know some people come in here and go, hey, you got an edible? Don't do that. I can't do anything unless I do a test run at home. Right, right, right. So, whatever you got here, what is this, rogie? What is this? Oh, these are just nicotine.

Oh, that's nicotine. These are nicotine. What's the good, I'm looking to get into a maybe an edible every now and then. Well, California's a perfect place to do it because you can get those nice 10 milligram edibles 10 milligram You eat the whole thing easy We try five just try five eat half and what is it is this the type of thing where you're like oh?

This is great, or is this maybe or deep paranoia depends on how much I don't do dark. I think I think about the solar flare Do you hear about these solar flares? There's solar flares that are supposed to reach us on the 10th and the 11th to some mass coronal Ejections that could play havoc with our communication systems or satellites could shut down the power grid if one's big enough You haven't heard about this I barely heard about this a friend of mine who is actually a legitimate scientist actually warned me about this he said it's it's really strange that we're not being told about the potential impact of this earth

prepares for solar storm impact from three CMEs this weekend. Solar activity has reached high levels in the past 24 to 36 hours with background flux at or near M1 zero. I don't know what that means. The most significant developments from the Sun include the growth and merging of regions 3664 and 3668 as well as the production of numerous M-class solar flares and two X-class solar flares from what CME is, coronal mass ejection, that are expected to arrive at Earth this weekend. Joe, no.

Keep this up there. If this was me and you sent me this article, right? So read this about solar flares You know would have turned me off right right from just visually. Okay, three six six four three I see that in a paragraph. I ain't reading it just Just the numbers alone the regions. Yeah I'm the opposite whatever you read just now didn't even didn't even register in my head couldn't even comprehend it Did you get any of that for me? What I got is a deep respect for these people that have not they're not just watching the Sun

But they've made regions of the Sun so they can refer to these specific regions where this solar activity is taking Yeah, this I was saying the 10th and the 11th. That's what my friend was telling me X 2.2 3b flare I was actually concerned that his wife is going to be out of town while this was happening. He's like, you should have food and you should be prepared. Yeah. Despite this, go back up, the region continued to produce optical flares, radio bursts, and an isolated M-clamp. That's one of the craziest things about the sun.

The sun is not static. It's like, it's like, it's all of the craziest things about the Sun. The Sun is not static. It's like It's like fuck it's good. It's all over the place It's got these giant ejections that that happened that could cook our satellites and in the past Before we had the kind of infrastructure that we have today. There was a big mass ejection I think that they recorded in the 1800s that like took out communications for whatever they had back then you know I like the Sun Joe you like a tan are you a beach guy do you like going beach on vacations love

the beach margarita margarita little Mexico Beach vibe Sit down and my kids build a little sandcastle Mexico makes me nervous. Did you hear about those surfers that just got killed in Mexico? Why do you why do you got a run at? They found a well shot in the head in a well they stole their car You shot him in the head and threw him down a well I'm at the beach with a margarita. Mm-hmm, and you're in a well with three three gun wounds Why do you got to ruin the visual for me Joe come on I mean, I don't know what happened to these guys but Shit go. Yeah

You can go sideways when you're in Mexico, no, I go surf for death man charge confess to girlfriend. Oh wow Kill these two dudes over a car Their bodies are found dumped in a cliffside well I don't have they disappeared each with a gunshot to the as terrible there's shit that could yeah There was a fourth body that had been there longer was unconnected to the case There goes the family trip to Mexico that's their spot unconnected to the case. Alright, there goes the family trip to Mexico. That's their spot.

Most of the time people go to Mexico, it's no worries at all. Yeah, no. I went down there once and I was worried and I saw Halle Berry there. I'm like, oh, she's here. No, I'm not worried. Yeah. I feel if you see Halle Berry anywhere, it's like, it's okay. She's gonna be fine.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Mexico worries me though. I don't know. Mexico worries me though. But it's just like it's controlled by the cartels. The country is essentially controlled by the illegal drug market. So you would not go to Mexico?

I've gone to Mexico. I love Mexico. But it is what it is. It's a different kind of sketchy and they they're generally protective of tourists Generally, you know, you know They don't want to fuck and then the government will come down on them if someone kills tourists It could happen on Wilshire Boulevard. It will happen on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles. That's why I don't live in Los Angeles I know. Yeah, I mean it can happen anywhere really. Anywhere now. But Los Angeles is a higher likelihood

of shit going sideways. Yeah, no I agree. What's it like? What's it like? You enjoying it? There's been many of conversations over dinner. What are we doing here? Yeah.

I'm sure you went through that prior to me. Well I know you looked out here for a little bit. I looked out here for a little bit. Now's a good time to look. Yeah. Now there's a lot of great houses that are available. Okay. A lot of money came here, a lot of people came here, a lot of great houses that are available Okay, a lot of money came here a lot of people came here a lot of building got done here

There's a lot of like I have a great real estate agent if you're still interested the growth is exponential Yeah, the light the quality of life is fantastic. It's much better. Okay But I got off the airplane the heat and I was sweating right out of the gate can't take that And I was sweating right out of the gate can't take that I don't like heat. I don't like heat. You know, I see I don't like humidity. So that is a big big factor of Moving anywhere whether it be Florida, Texas Los Angeles gets pretty fucking hot. It does get hot. I'm not saying it doesn't I'm just saying this is like a you know a different kind of heat for me. It's a wet. It's uncomfortable Yeah, it's better for your skin though, but maybe And we've often tossed around to is Los Angeles the place for us with me is I got a family there

I got my mother there my sister's there. What about San Diego? No With me is I got a family there. I got my mother there my sister's there. What about San Diego? No, no big San Diego really no, I love it down there. I love Florida Florida's great, too. I thought about there I have family in Naples hottest fuck hot as fuck though. Yeah hotter than here Yeah, I feel like if you go to one of these places that people are dumb to their dumb in Florida Yeah, they're generally fit right're some brilliant people in Florida, don't get me wrong. But if you had to do a statewide IQ test, it might be disturbing.

Yeah? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. A lot of people escaped to go to Florida. Florida's a place where people ran from their past. I just feel like if I go to Florida, I'm running from paying an exorbitant amount of money in taxes.

That's true too. And quality of life might be better. It would be better. And that's Texas too. Texas doesn't have state taxes either. Yeah. California has 14%, which is insane. It's insane.

It's so high. This morning I took a beautiful walk along your What is this a river you guys running through the city bird Lake Lady Bird Lake right right about the bats Yeah, and at a night and just let people hello, and it's nice. It's a it's a nice vibe out there I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna lie, but I I'm rooted over there, So I was rooted too. Yeah, I know. Yeah, but it's not worth it.

It's not worth it to be rooted in a place that sucks. I understand. Just the conflict, the feeling, like why am I still here? I don't have any of that here. I had that feeling for a while in LA, even before the pandemic. I'm like, do I really need to be here? But I just didn't know another way to do it.

It was like, there's no other way to do everything that I want to do Podcast comedy. I'm in LA. This is like I guess is where I live from the time You started to think about moving to the time you moved. What was what was that years wise? I've been thinking about it for a long time, you know, I lived in Colorado for a little bit in 2009 But um, I had been thinking about it for a while, but it didn't seem possible. But then when the pandemic hit, it was like,

okay, the whole world is different now. Now you gotta move. Like, you gotta get the fuck out of here, because LA was going sideways. And I'm of the opinion that once things start going bad, it takes a long time, especially in a Democrat-controlled state. It takes a long time for things to turn around if they turn around at all. And everybody has this idea of, oh, this is LA. LA is like

that. No, it's not like that anymore. They're burning cop cars in the middle of the street, looting businesses. They're letting people do it. They're smashing grabs. They're just telling you you can't shop after 6 p.m. This is madness. We've got to get the fuck out of here. That was my take. My take was like like this is not the same LA anymore. You don't stay in your house while it's on fire just because like but it's my house. No it's on fire. You got to get out. So that was my take. And the family was on board? Yeah they loved it. Well the kids were young enough you know my youngest were 10 and 12 when we came here and we got them to my real estate agents.

She's brilliant. She took us to the lake. And the girls were on a boat. We're all hanging out. We were jumping in the water together and swimming and people listening to the fucking Leonard Skinner and people were singing and drinking. And it was like everybody's having fun. And there was no masks.

Whereas in L.A., everyone everyone was terrified and locked down. And so this was in May of 2020. It was only two months into the pandemic, and I was already trying to get out. And then by August, I was already here. I was like, fuck you guys. And then by October, Dave and I started doing shows. We started doing shows at Stubbs.

And then November, we started doing indoor shows here like Jesus Christ it was and then it was crazy and then the influx everybody started moving here Sakura moved here Tony Hinchcliffe moved here Brian Simpson moved here Derek Poston Assan Amman they moved here William Montgomery moved here Ron White was already here Duncan Trussell moved here Tim D Montgomery moved here, Ron White was already here, Duncan Trussell moved here, Tim Dillon moved here, it just started getting crazy. Joe DeRosa just got a spot here, Joey's coming next week.

It's just, it's been amazing. But it had, all those things had to take place in the exact right order. It's almost like he had to hit every green light on the road. It just, all the things had to happen the right way to be able to happen. Yeah To make what actually took place It's kind of crazy. It is nuts that that this place

I mean, I just looked around the city and the amount of buildings that are going up is it's crazy The only thing I do see do you think the infrastructure of the city can? Withstand the amount of people here like the roads and the traffic and they're doing work on that. They're expanding things. There's going to be growing pains for sure. There's obviously a lot more traffic now than there was 10 years ago, but there was it had always been growing because I remember, you know, my business honest on it was out here. And so we were coming out here for on it.

And every time I would come out, like over the years, I'd notice like traffic was picking up more and more before the pandemic. You know, so, but then during the pandemic, obviously there was a massive influx of people like, we're getting the fuck out of California. And that was the biggest factor. I'm not arguing with you, Joe. It's a great move.

I know, it just takes, you have to decide, because no place is gonna be like, oh my God, this is perfect. no place is gonna be like oh my god. This is perfect Yeah, every place is gonna come with a thing, but this thing is like also like way cheaper It's way cheaper to live here Yeah, you get more for your money if you're trying to buy a house and your state taxes are non-existent Which is just way better Because look if California was perfect and I had to pay a lot of money

But they kept the streets clean and you know There was no crime and everybody's having a good time and there's great schools and great social programs like this feels good I feel like I'm I'm spending a lot of money in taxes, but man. I live in a fucking utopia. I love it It doesn't feel like that at all Those are you getting fucked by people who tell you they're gonna fuck you and they have to fuck you and if you don't Want to get fucked you're a part of the problem. Yeah, like oh Okay I don't feel like that here though said I don't feel like that here. I don't feel like that when I'm in Nashville

I don't feel like that when I'm in Florida I think there's parts of this country that haven't lost their fucking minds. And people gravitate towards those parts where people like realize like, Hey, there's some real need for law and order. There's some real need for rules. There's some real need for, you know, you gotta have your fucking ducks in a row. You can't let psychos take over the school systems and teach nonsense like this real. There's a real, there's a real, there's a good mixture. And I think Austin's the best mixture because it's a liberal city. It's a very, very progressive city that's surrounded by ranchers. It's surrounded by fucking people

in the small towns that are all, you know, driving pickup trucks and shooting signs and It keeps everything balanced It's a nice balance here because even the most liberal people here They're so much more reasonable than liberal people that I would meet in LA Liberal people in LA were cult members and they felt like if you weren't on their team You are some kind of a Nazi and you know, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You definitely should lose your job You are some kind of a Nazi and you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You definitely should lose your job. It's a tough place to live, Joe. I'm not going to argue with you.

When you come back in August, I'll take you around. Yeah. It'll be a good time to know if you hate it because it'll be hot as fuck. Oh yeah. I'm going to burn my skin off. August is going to be sweaty and hot, but it's beautiful. And the food. Ooh, there's beautiful and the food

So much good food now I come back well, we'll do a proper Austin run. All right do it for a few days You got anything to tell people about got a major tour July 11th called it ain't right tour a lot of stuff in Los Angeles So that starts July 11th at Norfolk, Virginia and Currently shooting bookie. Oh Yeah, you're on a show with a Chuck Lorre show or show on max which we're in our second season We're shooting that and who's in that with you? Omar Dorsey's in it Andrea Anders

Vanessa for lead I've heard good things about I've heard it's a great show really fun show. I want to watch it Yeah, it's so it's on max. It's on max gross eight episodes on there right now and nice. We're filming Well that guy Chuck Laurie that fucking guy guys done at all hits bro hits nothing but hits My family is addicted to the Big Bang Theory right now. So my youngest my wife and I watched the Big Bang Theory I've watched like a hundred episodes over the last four months. Yeah, it's great. I underestimated that show Tremendously because I had seen clips online like this show sucks and then you watch it. This is a funny show it's a really well made show really great writer and you know I don't this

is my first TV series so to have this guy yeah yeah so I did a pilot years ago with Tony Danza playing my dad never got off the ground how is it like meeting Tony Danza oh great well put Tony Danza taxi and yeah and I played my dad and he was really really good But that was a network show and they ever picked it up and they making for camera like multi-camera sitcoms anymore Yeah, that works. I don't know about networks but Miss Pat miss Pat's got one. Yeah, she's got a multi-camera show

But I mean do any network tell, like what is on? Like network TV on like Thursday night now? What's the, is it all like The Bachelor show? Yeah, I think we're seeing a lot of like reality, maybe dating shows. Game shows, reality shows. Big Brother or what have you. But yeah, no, it's been-

It used to be all sitcoms. It used to be all sitcoms. I mean, you know, you were part of that world Well, that's why I like watching the Big Bang Theory make me say like I enjoy sitcoms is a great way to consume entertainment You don't see them So it was like like talk to camera So I would do a little talk to camera And I know I'd pop back into the scene so the talk to camera for me would kind of Was like oh, I could show my comedy a little bit here, and then I go back into the scene, but

Yeah, man. I wonder if sitcoms are gonna come back Maybe they do if networks are smart they put together some multi cam sitcoms because there's it's still a fun art form It's still a fun way to consume humor. Yeah, it is. And it'll come back. It'll come back. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know either.

We'll see. We'll see. Maybe. And also I have a podcast, Pete and Sebastian Show, which we are now. Say hi to Pete for me. I haven't talked to Pete forever. Pete's a good dude.

I can't believe that you said before I saw you here today that I haven't seen you in four years. Five. Is it really five? 2019, I believe, was the last time I was on your show. But I've seen you since then. Seen you, seen you at the store in 2019, I think. Before the pandemic, I think I saw you.

Yeah, that was 2019. It was 25 years ago. Yeah almost March should be. I definitely haven't seen you out here it's my first time right out here but I want to tell you congratulations on all your success thank you even walking through this place before I came in to know like you know I saw you at the combi store hanging out in the parking lot and now you got a now you're floating in a tank in your own warehouse some believe like congratulations to you too because I remember when you first started I really do I remember your First struggles at the store, and I remember I saw you I was in Vegas

I was working in Vegas And I was in my hotel room by myself flip it to the channels And I saw your special and I think was a Showtime special And I remember tweeting it like this fucking great. No, I was great. You actually reached out to me and said hey man This is really good stuff. It's funny Eleanor Kerrigan I was on a podcast and somebody sent it to me and and she's like, oh my god, Sebastian was awful Awful when he first started everybody at the comedy store knew it. They're like, how did this guy get passed? I'm sitting there listen to this going Fuck I didn't even I like I didn't think I was bad, you know, like

It's funny. Like what you think you you are and and and what people are saying I know any of that I thought well the problem was you started out as an open mic or at the Comedy store in Los Angeles, which is crazy Yeah, that's like learning how to pray play football with the Giants Like it's nuts like just the idea behind it is nuts Like it's a very very difficult way to break in the comedy and so everybody's terrible in the beginning if they've seen me Six months in there. Oh my god. He fucking sucks Like how did he get past? I know but to hear it to hear it was like oh

No, I did and not to even know you suck Like I knew I was like learning but I was like I didn't know people were like this guy should be pumping gas You know, you know what I I don't know if you've ever had this on your podcast What do you guys north of what 2,500 episodes something like that? I Drank way too much water Before the podcast during oh, so you got to pee right now real bad It's unbelievable. Yes your face. We can wrap this up. The tour, all that, where can the people

find the information? Sebastianlive.com, get your tickets to the tour. Get your tickets. It's gonna be, I can't give anything away, but I'm into a lot, I like production at my shows. Not only the comedy, but the experience so we got some surprises on the nice and coming nice Austin Texas when is that August 9th if I'm here I'm there all right I would love to see it great great

to see you again and congratulations to all your success too it's been beautiful to watch thank you very very very very very happy for you I appreciate you having me on your show my pleasure brother anytime next time. Let's not wait four years no Come back in August. We'll do it again alright appreciate your brother. Bye everybody