The Joe Rogan Experience - #2160 - Billy Carson

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

Billy Carson is the founder and CEO of the media company 4BiddenKnowledge Inc., and First Class Space Agency, an aerospace company focusing on alternative propulsion and zero-point energy devices. He is also the host of the “4BiddenKnowledge” podcast and co-host of the “Bio-Hack Your Best Life” podcast.  www.4biddenknowledge.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Yes, the thing is about that photo of the moon that they do with the phones, they found out that that's kind of bullshit. No, I took, let me show you some of mine. I know, I took it too, but what it is is it's AI. And so what someone did on- What, you mean this is AI? and so what someone did on yeah what someone did online one of them clever kids yeah they took a very blurry photo of the

moon and they put it on a screen across the room okay and then they zoomed in on it as if it's the moon and the camera showed detailed craters oh that's not I'm talking about like this you know know. Oh, OK. That's a real picture. So that you just use the 100x zoom. You didn't use the moon photo thing. Yeah, no. There's a moon shot. Just me standing outside.

There's a moon shot aspect to that. That's a little. I got to check that. I didn't know about that one. Yeah, if you zoom in on it, if you zoom in on the moon. OK, I don't think that's real. See, that's what I'm talking about. I think that's AI. AI create recreates it yeah

Yeah, I know I was showing off Yeah, I have the 22. I think the s22 ultra yeah, I had the older one and I would take photos of the moon I'm like look iPhones bullshit. I can't do this, but it turned out. It looks like I got fooled Oh, man Yeah, because he's you can't hide stuff like that on the internet technology stuff. Those guys are too good They know everything they know everything. Yeah, but we were just talking about the difference. I'm really thinking about switching to Android I'm just tired of being trapped. Yeah, and it's just like this resist. Everybody's like don't do that I'm like, oh my god It's like a mind virus like everybody's like culturally locked in having a blue bubble

Well when you tell them you're gonna switch from Apple then agent Smith shows up from the matrix Inhabits their body and they turn try to tell you to stop doing it. Don't do it like try to yeah Convince you not to leave. It's like if you were a Catholic and you said I'm gonna become a Baptist, right? If you were a Catholic and you said, I'm going to become a Baptist, right? Don't do it. Right. Don't do it. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah.

Yeah. It's not that much different. I know. It's crazy. It's weird. People get, they get weird with everything. They get weird with their beliefs. They get weird with what they subscribe, what group they attach themselves to.

So true. It's so strange. And I think this is a good way to segue into like what you do And because these subjects so many of these subjects so many people have like an instantaneous Reaction. Yeah, that instantaneous reaction is oh hogwash. Yeah, if this was true, I would already know about it It would be taught in universities It would all be but then you find out like no one is really just kind of trying to piece stuff together.

Specifically talking about these ancient tablets, which are to me, some of the most interesting things about ancient history. Particularly what came out of ancient Sumer. Ancient Sumer, when you look at their tablets and like what are they saying? And why would they dedicate so much time to talking about this stuff?

Exactly. Why do they have pictures of giant, look enormous people looking things with like a humanoid with a tail sitting on their lap? Like, what is this just fiction? Like why would they detail this and how do they have a representation of the solar system with the correct amount of planets

and relatively the correct order and size? It's not exact, but it's an artistic version of the real thing. And how the hell, how the hell, how the hell 6,000, 5,000 years ago do they know that? And what explanations do we have? Like what's the conventional explanations when people tried to dismiss what they knew

in ancient Sumer? Well, the conventional explanation is always going to the term mythology. They throw mythology around left and right to cover up the fact that they have no clue or idea. So they turn it into mythology so they can kind of say, it's all fantasy and fairy tales, and this is how they express themselves or how they understood the universe. It's all mythology, it's all fake, but in reality, it's not all

fake. These people left behind such detailed records and information, it's a time capsule of information on stone tablets for us today to be able to decipher, break down, and understand, and that's what we're here to do now. When you look at these ancient languages like cuneiform, can you read that? Do you know how to read it? Yeah, a small amount of it, yeah. Studying it from books that I have bought

right off of Amazon. Yeah, so basically you take a stick. It looks like a stick with a kind of a curved end, right? Almost sharpened, it's called a stylus. And then you- Oh, just like a stylus a kind of a curved end, right? Almost sharpened. It's called a stylus. And then you... Just like a stylus for an iPad. Exactly. Very similar, right? And then you take a piece of wet clay and right before it's too wet or too dry, right in the middle stage, you then start wedging, making these

incredible lines into the clay. And then from that, you get this cuneiform text. So this text literally, you know, some of them, some of the letters actually relate to complete ideas, but it's incredible work and it takes a long time to do. And then you have to let this thing dry and then it becomes stone. So, you know, what if people were supposed to be trying to worry about how to, how they're going to get their next meal, shelter for the night, and all these kind of things. Who has time to sit down and write these incredible works of art like the Epic of Gilgamesh, for example? I think they really were writing down and also they were transcribing information that was given to them by these quote-unquote gods

with a lowercase g. R. So when you're reading things like the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Epic of Gilgamesh, for people who don't know, is one of the oldest versions of a lot of the stories that you hear in the Bible, very similar to them. They seem to be, there always seems to be a great flood. There's a few heroes, there's angry gods, there's a bunch of stuff going on. And Zechariah Sitchin's work was like the most controversial

on the Sumerian text, right? Because there's a whole website called Sitchiniswrong.com. People go crazy about him. Yeah, but when he starts talking about it, when you read some of the things that they wrote and when you see like some of the images that they created, the images that look like the double helix from DNA, and there's a bunch of the like that now we represent the the caduceus which is represents pharmacies and drugs like that's the old version of an image of the double helix of DNA or at least it looks yeah super similar to that oh it definitely is because it's referenced even in the Egyptian book of the dead

and other ancient texts so there's no coincidences here now in Zacharias itch and you know I don't particularly go by his work, not because it's controversial. I believe he was one of the greatest researchers of all time, and the reason why is because he laid out so much information for us to begin to scratch our head and ask questions. But what I figured out was that by going through the UCLA CDLI online Cuneiform Digital Library, say that fast ten times, I was able to take stone tablets and decipher them myself. So anyone can go online to the UCLA CDLI online Cuneiform Digital Library and read these stone

tablets for themselves. You don't need Zachariasition, you don't need anyone else. And as I began to break these tablets down... Do they have them transcribed or are you reading the actual tablet? They transcribe them. They actually transcribe them into English for you. Is there controversy as far as, are there different versions of the transcription? Like, do some people think it's interpreted differently? Is like some debate about that?

Only where it comes to where some of the text is missing. There could be pieces shipped off of tablets. You see that corner missing from that tablet right there in the just look how wild is that yeah just how wild is that that that exists yeah and that this was it's so hard for people to put in their brain 5,000 years of time yeah and that there's these people that are this very bizarre language like when you look at that like we don't even know what it sounds like right right no and the the language popped up out of nowhere. You know, you're talking about a civilization that appeared out of nothing.

It looks like computer code. It does. Doesn't it? Yes, it does. Just imagine like a human being deciding that they were going to write down in these very bizarre and they all agreed that all these things mean a certain thing. So they had a somehow or another have a Rosetta stone or something where they're documenting

it so that people can learn it and teach it. And then we're looking at it 5,000 years later. It's so amazing. It is. And what's incredible is this text was translated in 1800s, long before Zachariah Sitchin was born. So there are some, you know, some rumors that oh He was the only one that could decipher these tablets will know

George Smith who worked as an a serologist and wrote many books and he deciphered these Sumerian tablets in the 1800s So we're talking about texts that have been deciphered for a few hundred years. Nothing that was just deciphered recently So when what are the first decipherings? What year was the first deciphering? It was in 1800, I think around 1850, George Smith. He actually worked at the, I think it was Cambridge. What was his take? Like when he's reading all these wacky stories and all the Anunnaki stuff, what's his take

on it? He is literally subscribing to this information the way almost that you and I see it today. These people saw something, experienced something, interacted with something, and he catalogued it and it inspired him to write a complete translation of the Enuma Elish and the seven tablets of creation. And he talks about the fact that that information was copied right from those tablets and put into the Old Testament of the Bible. And so, you know, not exactly like it's going to go from here to the Bible, but it went to other ancient papyruses and scriptures and so forth, and then later on when it was discovered in caves, people took those and then said, okay, we got to put this into a

book, and then it became the Bible much later, around 100 AD. But he subscribed to the theory that these people interacted with beings in some way, shape, or form and that also this information is so incredible that it became part of the biblical text. Did you ever read the Dead Sea Scrolls? Yes, yeah. So the Dead Sea Scrolls, what was it found in? When, what year was that? It was in Qumran, right?

They found it in Qumran, but I think again, this was, this was also, I believe, in the late 1800s or early 1900s. Is when they found them. So these things are written on animal skins and this is the only, I mean, this is a very old version of those exact same stories or some of similar stories. Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness in the Dead Sea Scrolls. I haven't read it, but is there any references to anything that's similar like Anunnaki type characters, the Nephilim or anything like that in the Dead Sea Scrolls?

They show up everywhere in the Dead Sea Scrolls, in the Enuma Elish, in the Epagobotra Seas. Of course, even in the Bible, they're known as the Anak, A-N-A-K. We were grasshoppers in their eyesight, it says in the biblical text. So no matter where you go in any culture, you're going to discover that these beings in some way or shape or form engaged mankind, brought knowledge, teaching, building techniques, and just so much more wisdom and information, esoteric wisdom, alchemy, all these things came from these people. So the craziest version of this story is that they genetically engineered us out of lower

primates and put us here to mine gold. And then established different types of civilizations and taught us how to build things, taught us all these different things, and enough time has passed that we've kind of forgotten. Enough time has passed. That's the wackiest version of it, right? Right, right. That's the bare bones minimum.

Yeah, the wackiest version is that they made us, which is, we've talked about this a couple of times, but how bizarre it is that human beings have this incredible fascination for gold we're fascinated with gold This fascination with gold is really weird like why back when it was basically useless You couldn't make a knife out of it couldn't you know like it didn't make sense that this would be so valuable Just because it's rare you're barely alive, you know, we're going, you know, right? We're going back to full-on hunter and gather our ancestors with spears and and stone chipped

And then after that gold emerges and it stays it stays forever Now when you read Zechariah Sitchin's book, he talks about this in the 1970s His description of it was that they needed to suspend gold particles in the atmosphere Because their atmosphere is being destroyed, right? then you move to like somewhere around the 2000s when climate scientists start proposing this idea of suspending reflective particles in the atmosphere, right? And then when you realize the unique properties of gold how unusual it is in terms of like a building material, you can coat things. The reason why things are like coated in gold, silver plate or gold plated rather, you can take a tiny piece of gold and

cover an enormous area with it. It's a strange metal, yeah like really weird and what you know the supposed story is it's very common on earth, very rare on New Bureau. Right, yeah that's the story and then it's very common on Earth, very rare on Nibiru. Right. Yeah, that's the story. And then when I started looking into this gold thing myself, and here's what I came up with. So when you start analyzing the text, you discover that there was an encampment in a place called South Africa at Adam's calendar. Okay?

Now, at Adam's calendar, there's actually the very first gold mines discovered. They're dating them back to about 200,000 years ago. And that's incredible because there's a building there that looks like a worn down structure. Now in the tablets, it talks about the fact that the Ijiji, who were the working class Anunnaki beings who were cleaning out the Euphrates and Tigris River so they can create irrigation

and create a bustling civilization. Also what they were doing, the actual construction themselves. No people needed, just them working. They were like the construction workers. Anu and Enki and Lil, these leader gods, were like the foremen, the master architects and so forth, the boss. So these people were working, but they weren't supposed to be enslaved. They were volunteers. They got tired of doing the work according to them for about 250,000 years of labor on earth and also according to them on Mars.

This is in the text. They call it Lamu. And so they decided to go to war against Enki and Lil and Anu because their demands had not been met. So they went to meet them in the Epic of Atra-Hasis. They go to Adam's calendar, they go to that same structure that was discovered where that gold mine is located. I was like, holy crap, there is some link here to gold, specifically exactly, I don't know, but I know if you're an advanced civilization,

you need gold. And the people that you have working it for you probably think, you know, it's to adorn or to adorn yourself or in recognition of the gods so they'll wear it and they'll utilize it but not for technology What's crazy is they go to war they go to get ready to go to battle and then Anki says I have an idea That will stop this war. There's an existing being on this planet existing not something that doesn't exist existing we can add our essence to it with a slain God so they they're talking about taking the DNA or genetics from one of themselves and mixing it with the DNA of the hominy that was here. It's not specified whether it was, you know, an ape man or anything,

but they don't specify in the tablets, but to create a worker being. And they began to do this genetic modification, probably disconnecting some of our DNA, making genetic modification to us, to get us to take orders from them. They inserted something called a worship gene, which was just discovered recently,

that human beings have a gene inside of them that can be turned on and turned off. It can be turned off in a laboratory setting. It can also be turned off with a magnetic field around your head. And when it's off, you don't wanna worship anything outside of yourself. You look inside and when it's on,

you look to get something from the outside. So this is incredible. So they engineered a gene inside of us to make us worship them. How genius. It's incredible, because then you're not a slave anymore. You're doing this for the honor of the gods. And for people who think all this talk is really crazy, I want to put into perspective that we talked about this the other day, that during the, which war was it where the Soviet Union was experimenting?

It was scientists in the Soviet Union, correct? They're experimenting with creating a chimpanzee human being hybrid that they would probably send to war. So instead of having regular people, we would make this monster, this freak ape man and send him to war and have him crush the enemies. Yeah How crazy is that they knew how strong chips are I got an idea? Let's turn a chimp human and that way if he dies who gives a fuck right we made him Get him to go to work for us. Yeah, and now if you're a

supremely enlightened being, wouldn't you think of human beings with all of our folly and all of our chaos and all of our war and bullshit and the internet and disinformation and misinformation, wouldn't you think of us kind of the same way we would think about that champ hybrid thing? Yeah. If I was a, you know, I was the president of Russia, I want my cousins to go to war or I want to send this freak that I made in a lab Yeah, and what's interesting? I'm sure I'm glad you said made in a lab. They had talked briefly in that text about Fashioning people in other words almost like they say it they said the word fashioning the fashioning of being what was the Remember the actual quote. I got it

I would have to look it up the actual the actual quote But they describe it as fashion. Fashion, because they said even the lamb hadn't been fashioned yet, so they had fashioned lambs. So they fashioned, and it's also in the Epic of Gilgamesh, they fashioned the friend that Gilgamesh went on the journey with. He wasn't born from a woman's womb. They created him.

They created him an artificial being to go on this journey in the Epic of Gilgamesh. So they used that phrase several times in the tablets. But they said, no, wait. That was almost like that's not a good idea because in some ways, it seems as if they had known that the idea of making these artificial, too many artificially created people wouldn't be a good idea. Now they didn't go deeper than that, but you can see where we are today with AI and everything else and these robots that are coming. Maybe they knew something about that. But they decided to take a biological being and genetically

modifying program that to do the work and that's exactly what they did. Well, if they really knew what we would be capable of and that we would be illogical, overpopulation would be a gigantic issue. And in many parts, I mean, it's not really that big of an issue here except for in cities, but in many parts of the world, it's not really that big of an issue here except for in cities But in many parts of the world, it's the whole country. Yeah, the whole country is New York City, which is just fucking bonkers You know and you got a one it's actually not true. It's like it's not even that bad even in China China has a lot of open space, but when you're in those cities, they are massive and they are filled with people and That is probably what you'd imagine a higher being would do if it was like us,

like kind of illogical and kind of a little bit reckless and has a little bit too much technology for the average person that didn't develop the technology. But all of a sudden you got some 85 IQ dope who has access to all the things that all these geniuses have created. I mean mean you could I mean you could figure it we talked to Michio Kaku he built a nuclear reactor

in his house right when he was a kid. I heard about that. That was crazy. That's crazy! Yeah I know. That's so crazy but there's a lot of different stuff that you can do and have access to technology that is beyond anything you would ever be able to invent with your own mind but because we share things across the board, you would imagine that if you were an enlightened being from another planet that's a million years more advanced than us, you'd go, I see where this one's going. You know, like you have that cousin who's an alcoholic and then he wins the lottery, like, oh shit, Derek just won the lottery. Fuck! This is gonna be crazy. Derek's got $200 million.

It's gonna be fucking insane. It's crazy. And they knew they were going outside their own guidelines and their own laws, their parameters, because they made a statement in the text. They said the creator of all is going to punish them, or they would have to answer to the creator of all for what they did here. So that lets you know they weren't really gods. They knew themselves that they weren't really gods. They knew themselves that they weren't the creator of the universe, but that they masqueraded as gods on this planet. Just like we did when different versions of human civilization would find primitive tribes,

like the cargo cults that you talked about in your documentary. That is so fascinating that during World War II, planes landed on these remote places and these people built mock planes to show like what the thing was that came to visit them that they thought were like gods. Wild. Do you think that if the Anunnaki are real and if Nibiru really exists and there's another planet with highly intelligent beings that are far more advanced than us. If that's the case, do you think there's more advanced and more advanced and more just like we are to chimpanzees, they are to us, and then another races to them, and then it just keeps going on and

on forever until you're God? Absolutely. I believe there's levels to the game, just like there's levels in terms of how we live on this planet. You know, we have the first world, second world, third world, just here on Earth. Now, I magnify that as a fractal, as a universe as a whole. You have civilizations that are a million, two million, maybe even a billion years ahead, and every civilization progressing within the universe at a specific rate. So you can have beings that have already maybe even shed their corporeal bodies and only exist as beings of energetic light And then you have everything all the way back down towards us in the emerald tablets of thoth

He actually says that he has achieved the ability to incarnate at will on and in the plane He desires he claims to be able to incarnate whenever he wants and even into other dimensions, which is wild. That's next level Yeah, that's next level It does make sense that if we're capable of doing what we're doing, we're talking about your phone, the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra with Zooms and all this different shit, that's magic to someone just 200 years ago.

And if it keeps going and you keep playing this out as far as possible, it kind of makes sense that there would be levels to the kind of intelligent life that exists in the years beyond our comprehension Yeah, what do you have you talked to Terrence Howard? Do you know his theory about how planets are created that it's just things Ejecting from the Sun over billions and billions of years and that there's a Goldilocks zone where you can create life, right? And that's where the people are and then as this Goldilocks zone where you can create life. And that's where the people are. And then as this Goldilocks zone gets... You have to be super technologically proficient

in order to control your environment to the extent that you no longer require the sun in order to keep you alive. That kind of makes sense if the bureau's out there past Pluto. Oh, it makes a lot of sense. It makes sense that they... Because I just talked to them a couple hours ago. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, so we were talking about web conjugations

and everything. Fuck me up for like three days. I left this podcast for three days. I was like, goddamn. First of all, how the fuck is he so smart? Like, how would you ever imagine that a dude who's an actor on a television show or in a movie is that smart?

Like, freaky smart. But his theory about the creation of planets, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Oh, it makes a lot of sense. We watch stuff fly off the sun all the time. And if that this matter over time would coalesce and become a planet. Yeah, creates an accretion disk

and everything in space creates accretion disks. So once that matter- What is that word? Accretion disk? Accretion. Yeah, an accretion disk. What does that mean? So once you have a certain amount of mass in space, itretion disks. So once that matter... What is that word? Accretion disks? Accretion. What does that mean? So once you have a certain amount of mass in space, it instantaneously, on its own, wants to create this circular, like the shape of our Milky Way galaxy, wants to start circling and swerving around itself.

And then as it does that, it begins to create friction. And as that friction increases, the matter begins to collapse in towards each other, all right, based on its own energy, and then it then forms a ball. And that then builds and attracts more mass until it builds into a moon or a planet or whatever. Yeah. What do you do when you encounter flat earth people? Oh, man, I just try to be quiet.

I just tell them, look, it's not my thing. You know, I remember Flat Earth Society offered me money years and years ago. And I was like, no, I don't believe the Earth is flat. I'm not getting involved with this. And they really attacked me hard, death threats and everything else. They get very upset. Yeah. I do not understand. I just think it's people committing to an idea. Yeah. It just doesn't make sense. Well, it's a religion now. They turned it into a religion. Anytime that people can attack you so brutally over that, I mean, you're talking, I'm on live talking about quantum physics and they're in the chat. The Earth is flat, the Earth is... I mean, so that's... That's like, I mean...

I'm fascinated by it because the... It's interesting. Yeah, because it's the ultimate conspiracy theory. The ultimate conspiracy theory is that we are all on a set and that the Earth is flat is flat it's a disk as a wall the government's aware of it they won't let you pass a certain distance yeah there's ice walls yeah and that space is just lights in the sky right that's it and if the Sun is a bulb and it's attached to a version of Christianity which is very interesting it is it's tied into Christianity the-old thing to do is six thousand year old

reason why people think there are six thousand years old because most of the tablets are six thousand years old and the bible was written from information that came from tablets so that's as far back as anybody's quote-unquote knowledge seems to extend that's what a six thousand year old theory comes from but they've taken that being turned into religion one guy dm me he was going off and telling me was gonna shoot me in the head and all this stuff. And I said, let me ask you a question. If there's no atmosphere, then what are you breathing right now? He goes, what do you mean? I'm breathing oxygen. I said, well,

that's a gas. Gas doesn't exist. I said, well, then you should be dead then because you're breathing a gas. I said, what else are you inhaling when you breathe? He goes, oxygen. I said, well, no, you're breathing in helium, krypton, all the other... Mostly nitrogen. Yeah, nitrogen. I said, you're're breathing in you know helium, krypton, you know. Mostly nitrogen. Yeah nitrogen. I said you're breathing in all these other gases. Oxygen is only about 21% of that otherwise you'd be dead. He didn't know, he couldn't say, I said did you graduate from high school? He said no. I said I stopped talking. That's when I realized don't waste your energy on these people. Well there's a lot of dudes unfortunately who just get on YouTube and they listen to very charismatic people talk. They don't know what they're talking about which I do all the time, but they but they

Do it away with they pretend they know something is true. That's not true Yeah, and people get sucked into it I know and I just don't understand why you would think that earth is the only one out of all these things that we've observed That's flat. Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense And I think this is respectfully to all these people that believe that I think it's a giant waste of time I think concentrating on the shape of the earth Even if it was flat who fucking cares means look at what's going on out there It would be kind of crazy

It was flat that would kind of like bolster the idea that we're the shit and we're just so much more Powerful and advanced and special than everything else in the universe because we're the only ones that exist on a flat plane, right? But the whole thing is just so insane just what we know about the physical universe itself and about atoms and just just what we know about all the matter that exists in our lives is insane. Yeah, it's insane. I mean, obviously, they haven't, they haven't happened to even forget quantum, they standard physics, they don't, they don't, they don't comprehend it. And so because of that, you know, they're lost. I mean, satellites don't exist, obviously to them. So that's a cookie one. I

remember. This is a cookie. It's real, you can watch them. I mean, it's crazy. Hurricane Maria comes and destroys the Caribbean and Unfortunately have some loved ones that were involved in and I posted a picture of the hurricane because I was raising money for hurricane supplies And they were commenting and attacking that's a fake image. It doesn't exist. I'm like how much but let me ask you this how much of that is Bullshit like how much of that is government, either entities from other foreign governments where they jump into these subjects to make people seem really stupid. And when

people say something really stupid, one of the things they like to do is put a foreign flag, like an American flag rather, in their profile. And they're just saying that dumb as shit. And I'm going, I don't know if this is a real person. I think it's not. I think it's one of those things that's designed to muddy up any discourse about anything. Yeah, it's a Psyop. I'm telling you, I told people a long time ago, this whole flutterer thing was a CIA Psyop. I think it was.

Drop it in there and see what happens. If it wasn't a CIA Psyop, it was someone from 4chan who just wanted to be silly, and went so hard with explanations that a lot of gullible people without science degrees, like me, they went along with it. And it's just one of those things where it's just, man, what a giant waste of time. It is, it's a waste of energy.

And there's so much more we can learn, like these ancient texts. And people say, why are you always focused on the ancient past? Well, because the past is prologue. If we don't understand what happened back then, we're doomed to continue to repeat these cycles of time that we've been in for quite some time, for eons. Yeah, I mean, it's just direct evidence that civilizations don't last when they go kooky. Yes. You know, and that things go sideways and there's natural disasters and wars that reshape landscapes. Like, look, it's all there and it's happening right now.

Yep. And if we're not aware of it, it'll happen to us. And then we'll be a footnote of history We'll be one of those things there was this amazing country called America They got crazy they created all this art and culture and they they did amazing things that they went fucking sideways Yeah, they sold out the money they got involved in wars and and then the next thing you know The world is operating essentially like communist China the whole world. Yeah, that's possible too kids All right, you got to be you got to fight for this whatever this thing is that we have this is like super fucking unique But if you don't want to look at the past If you're not fascinated by ancient structures if you're not fascinated by what kind of technology and knowledge that they have

4500 plus years ago to make the pyramids. Who are these people? What were they doing? How did they do that? And what was that thing? Was that a power plant? I know you know that theory. That is a crazy theory that sounds so,

it sounds completely wackadoo, but then when you have it laid out to you, Christopher, what's his last name? Done. Christopher Done. I just had him on my podcast a few weeks ago. I just had him a couple weeks ago too. I just had a brain fart.

His depiction of the mechanisms that would be involved in turning this giant structure into some sort of a power plant, you hear about it, you go, wait a minute, whoa. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And him and I have very similar theories on how the power generation occurred. And I believe that the Nile, when it used to run up close to the pyramids, and the water would run underneath the pyramid,

and that would create something called physiostatic electricity as it ran underneath that magnetized crystal granite. Those ions would pour up into the chamber, move up the grand gallery where there used to be resonating rods. You can see the slots where the rods used to be. They're removed now, but the slots are still there. Then it would be pushed into the king's chamber where it would be amplified and some type of fusion would take place,

then forced up through the apex. Then the crystal granite obelisks around the region would capture that ambient wireless electricity. And then if you had something called a JED, which looks like a Tesla coil, you can capture that energy and you can transfer it into a device for gold electroplating, for any other electrical tools you need,

like some of the tools they had to have used to create some of these incredible works of art. We can see the tool marks, so we know they had the tools. But they had wireless electricity way back then. That's insane. If that's true, that's insane. Because you would think there would be some kind of physical evidence of a device, like something left over, some sort of ancient chainsaw, like something. They did a great job cleaning up. I mean, they poured sand over Giza to bury another couple hundred pyramids there at Giza. Do you think they poured sand over Giza to bury another couple hundred

pyramids there at Giza. Do you think they poured sand? Do you think that's just natural erosion over time? Because when Giza, when the pyramids existed, it was a very different place, right? Like if you go back before the pyramids, like 9,000 years ago, it was a lush rainforest, right? Yeah. And then over time it became sand, and the same with the entire Sahara Desert, which is really crazy. We were talking about the other day, they find whale bones in the Sahara Desert. Yeah, I'm going to the Valley of the Whales in a few weeks in Egypt actually. It's incredible that there's whale bones out there also. So we're going out there to the Valley of the Whales.

Whale bones! Whoa! But so the point being that this place has changed radically, like absolutely radically over time. So who knows what's... do you know why those things were covered up? Is it possible that it was just sand over time? Well if you look at the tablets again they talk about this war, right? And this war that occurred, there's a lot of wars obviously, but this one particular war it seems like the same one that damaged the area or the region of Giza Plateau, also Mohenjandaro in the Indus Valley up there by Pakistan. And the reason why it's interesting is if you look at the war in the text and then go to those areas, it looks now almost you can begin to

see, oh, wait a minute, it looks like war. Mohenjandaro in this valley, the buildings turn to glass, the sand turned to glass, and the bodies are still laying in the street right now today, holding hands. Never been scavenged by animals. Wait a minute, where is this? Mohen Jindaro. Are there photos that we can look at? Oh yeah, look it up. Mohen Jindaro in this valley, dead body still laying in the street thousands of years later.

Nobody just, they just lay there? No one's covered them up? No one's covered them up. Yeah, when you put a geiger counter over them higher than background level radiation okay yeah and if it aren't stones higher than background level radiation some stones are some stones are especially like diorite and crystal granite but these bodies these are just bones how come they're higher than background level i can't wait to see this yeah I haven't ever heard of this. Mohen, Jendaro, M-O-H-E-N, there you go. Wow.

Yeah, this is evidence of a nuclear war or nuclear type of war. Go back to the other, that one there, that one's insane. Yeah, there's bodies that are sitting on the edge of steps next to their own buildings that they lived in. The building is turned to glass. That's three thousand plus degree temperature Weapons fire so there's a bunch of people that seem to die all at once just scattered around. Yeah And what's the conventional explanation for how these people died? They have no idea They have zero idea the only thing that was just a couple Jamie go to the other just the more hand Jindara mythical mass massacre

Yeah, so that they think it's a massacre did it is there any? Just laying there laying there and the bed building those stones are vitrified which means 3,000 plus degree temperature. Oh Shit what kind of you know, what could have caused that level of temperature? energetic release Well, it could have been a low atmosphere asteroid. It could have been. I mean just like that's possible. Tunguska. Yeah it could have been a lot but then their bones would have been splattered apart and broken up into pieces. Good call. Yeah that's good call. Yeah because they

don't seem to be broken apart. No they're not broken apart. Right. That impact would have shattered the bones and spread them out over a great distance out over right without impact even if you just look at the one that burst in the atmosphere in Tunguska just flattened trees flattened everything I think it's some insane like a million acres or something crazy it's incredible so how big was the Tunguska explosion that that one's yeah so those bodies would be toast because the trees were ripped apart the buildings would have been flattened the legs would have flown off. There's no way they would just be laying there like that.

That's interesting. And they don't seem to be like chopped up. No. Do they have any evidence of stab wounds or anything on them? They don't have any evidence of any injury of any kind of attack or any cutting or like swords or anything. They just all got cooked. Right.

And then in the tablets it says that the evil wind moved over to land after they released these weapons. And then Enki goes to his father, I mean, yeah, Enki goes to his father Anu and says, hey, can you stop the evil wind? Because he had fallen in love with some people, you know, and down there. And he's like, there's nothing I can do. He said, get in your sky ship and forebow. That means get the hell out of here. And he said that people's hair was falling out, their eyes were bleeding, their nose were bleeding, their fingernails were curling off.

That sounds like radiation sickness. So you think it's radiation sickness that did this to all these people, or was it an impact that did this to all these people? Nobody knows. But they're not blown apart. Right, they're not blown apart. It seems like whatever struck,

or whatever energetic weapon it was, it might not have been a weapon. Whatever it was, it seems like that shock wave reached them at some point and whatever was in that wave just killed everybody. That's what it did. Yeah. And they just don't know what it is. How does a conventional archaeologist describe it? Do they just say it's a massacre? They just call it a mythical massacre and they stay away from it. When you look in the other texts, the Mahabharata and the Bhagavad Gita, you find out about these wars also. They're recorded. They have weapons

called the Brahma Astra and the Brahma Handa weapon, and these weapons, they do what they describe them as doing, duplicate what you saw there. How do they describe them? They describe them as weapons that once released can't be revolted or can't be turned back and that they will obliterate any area, any city. And they say that some of the one of the weapons can destroy any man on three worlds. It's crazy stuff.

This is where Oppenheimer got his famous quote when he obviously tested the nuke, right? Now I have become death, destroyer of worlds. He got that from the Mahabharata. Yeah, what a great quote to yeah after you detonate the first bomb great what a great quote yeah so so the idea is that there were beings that were having wars on this planet were they do you believe they were having wars with people that were revolting or were they having wars with other beings

they were fighting with each other. And evidence of these wars can be found in the book of Deuteronomy in the modern day Bible. These gods, and I do mean gods with an S, because everywhere in the Bible where it says God singular, it's actually a mistranslation. The actual, if you backwards look up the translation in Arabic and down to Aramaic and everything else, you find that it's gods plural. They were fighting each other over resources and people and control of control of the planet. And so that's why in the book of Deuteronomy, God tells people, go to this

city, and it's like a far city, where they don't even know these people exist. They go over there to kill him. He says, kill the women, kill the children, and bring the spoils of war back to me. And you see these wars in the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad Gita, the Bible, the Sumerian tablets. And these wars are just non-stop. The Indian invaders. And it's always about attacking another city and even talk about Trojan horse methods to get behind the gates and then to utilize that to attack and kill and bring back these spoils, which is pretty crazy stuff. It's like they were attacking each other. They had gone awry.

They had gone rogue out here on this planet and then began to fight over people and populations and resources. And we would hope that we would get past that. But there's no evidence that we have so far. So why would we think that as AI gets implemented and technology escalates and all we're gonna be able to do in the future in terms of being able to go visit other planets and duke it out on other planets.

There was a whole story today about China just landed on the far side of the moon. So they landed a probe over there. Yeah, they did. You know, the China-America war on the moon. What if America claims a spot and China lands and plants a flag there? And they're like, hey, fuck you, that's ours. That's what's gonna happen. Especially if there's like something on the moon they can mine, it's very valuable.

Oh, this stuff up there. I researched the Clementine mission years ago. NASA and the United States military sent a military, at that time it was a top secret mission called Clementine. It was a low lunar orbiting satellite to go to the dark side of the moon and when I saw the name Clementine I knew right away this thing ain't coming back and as I began to dig deeper into the declassified documents of course it never came back. Oh my darling Clementine you were lost and gone forever. Wow. And I was right and sure enough it hits something on the dark side of the moon which is really just the backside it It's not really dark there, but it hit something, but it sent back about 20 gigs of data, and these images are available to the

general public. They've been declassified, and there are strange anomalies on those image. This is pre-photoshop, pre-everything, things that shouldn't be there that look like broken structures and junk and things that just seem to be laying around. So I think it was a reconnaissance mission to gather intel and data, which is probably why China's gone to that far side of the moon as well, because they're probably going to ... It's a race to see who can capture ancient technology and then reverse engineer it and then weaponize it.

Well, that's the most fun theory ever. The most fun theory ever is that there's bases on the moon, on the dark side of the moon, that aliens have abandoned. Jamie, are there any photos of these anomalies? That's the most fun. I can provide you some with links to the sources too. OK. That'd be cool.

But Jamie will probably find something. So what do these structures look like to you when you look at them? There's dome structures there. A dome. There's domes. And as a matter of fact, one of the astronauts, I think it was Neil Armstrong, if you get the declassified from the Freedom of Information Act documents that are the the black box audio and

the black box redacted text statement from NASA, which is available to the general public, Neil says look at those convex structures down there. I bet that people in there never get out. And he's talking about dome structures on the moon. And this is an exact statement that was made that's in the black box audio, which I can provide you to link to that as well. Okay, so where are these structures? Do you see any of these that you find compelling? You need to look for anomalies on the back side of the moon. We utilize a lot of these on our Facebook groups. On Facebook we have these groups, anomaly hunting groups. We formed the United Family of Anomaly Hunters and we've

cataloged about 60,000 anomalies now. A lot of them are on the dark side of the moon. But type in Clementine Moon photos anomaly, you may be able to find some. If not, I'll send you the link to some resources where you can look them up and you can take a look at some of these crazy objects that are there. So is that one right there in the upper right hand corner? Yeah, that one's there. There's some structure there. Those kind of look like two pyramids onto the left of it.

And then another structure, which almost seems like it has geometry. Underneath that, you see the blur? That looks like obfuscation. Directly, if you go go back to that top right top right yeah top right B okay you see that where his hand is I move to the left going down slowly see it all see how that opposite that go back up again see that over what his hand is over right now mm-hmm it looks like

obfuscation sometimes you can take these images and put them into a Photoshop and take away the contrast and all of a sudden structures pop right out. But right above that you see those shadows of those pyramid structures? Right above that. Yeah, you see those pyramids? You can see this dark shadow. I see two lines. Okay. Well, I see the arrow that's pointing to that one straight line and then I see what looks

like two superimposed arrows. Okay, do you see? Yeah, those things. Okay, yeah. Those are superimposed, right? Like... No, those are shadows. But look, those are the same things that are in the bottom. Aren't they just pointing at something? Aren't those pointers? I think they're high. They may be highlighting something. Right. I think it's a cursor mark or something. So what they're

saying, I see what they're pointing to. They're pointing to that thing in the upper right hand corner. It looks like a pyramid. Yeah, you see that? You see that right there? Yeah. It kind of looks like a pyramid. It's cleaned up a little bit there in C. C is more clean. But those things don't look like they belong there. Well, it's hard to tell. Yeah, it's hard to tell. We have really, that pyramid right there is very famous. That's a very old image.

That's on the moon. There should be a link to that. There's a lot of that particular one's been around for years and years and years. It's kind of hard to think that that were formed by natural. Now what happens is we're not saying we know exactly what these things are. We're just saying that we feel like they don't belong there. Jamie, go back to that image that you were just looking at, the thing that was over your

pyramid. That one, yeah. Yeah, get that one big. Hmm. That one's crazy. Yeah. That one's very strange looking because the way it points at the top and has flat sides like yeah You're like, yeah, if that's real, that's interesting. Yeah, but it

That's good question. There's a there's a measuring tool. We don't have it obviously access to it right here But there is a measuring tool you can see the shadow which gives you an idea of the height I'd like to see in in real life, though. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes things fuck with you. But the angle is so unnatural looking. Yeah, definitely looks unnatural. We just try to catalog things that appear to be anomalies,

things that appear to be out of place. Right. It could be anything. And in the Sumerian Tabiths, there was this time where Enlil takes his son to the moon. And he says, well, grab your eagle's mask, because you're going to need it. They were referencing that the atmosphere was harsh.

Oh, eagle's mask. When you see the Anunnaki with the eagle's head, that's actually their helmet. It's a helmet. So they can breathe on air. Exactly. They talk about it twice, once to go to the moon and the second time to go to Mars.

Yeah, and there's been other depictions of ancient gods and people that look like they're wearing some kind of mask too. Right, yeah exactly. I mean one of the cooler ones is the the bubble space head looking guys in the cave. Yes. And you're like what did you guys see? Right. Like what did you guys see in the middle of like hunting gazelles, trying to stay alive, trying to make a fire and then you decided to draw that thing? What is that? And we know they can draw because they can show you what a gazelle is, they can show you what a cat, what cattle is. They can show you what a person looks like.

Yes, yes. But then they draw that and you have to think, well, why? Right, why is that the only thing you drew that's fake? Right, exactly. They just have time to waste. And it looks like a dude in a suit with a helmet on. Right. And how, here's the question.

How many different things are visiting us? And from how many different places? Oh, a lot. We can't just think everything's going to look exactly the same. That seems just as silly as thinking that all of our animals should look exactly the same. Correct. I think we have three different levels of visitation going on simultaneously.

One is corporeal beings in a physical body, most likely anatomically similar to us, you know, a bilateral bipedal organism with two forward-facing eyes, maybe. Do you think it's what we eventually become? It's what they are? It's possible that maybe we already are them, just, you know, Earth could be an abandoned seed colony. Every culture that I've talked to indigenously around the planet, all say they were seeded on this planet by Pleiadians or other beings, star brothers in various different places. So it's pretty interesting. Like the Dogons, the Nomo, the Hopi, and the Lakota tribe, the star brothers. The aboriginal elders say that they were seeded here by Pleiadians. All of a sudden, why is everybody having the same story that we were brought here? We could

be genetically, I don't believe we're even from Earth to be quite honest with you. Our psychotic rhythm doesn't even match Earth's rotation on its axis. We're slightly off. It's actually better tuned to Mars orbit on its rotation on its own axis than it is Earth. What do you mean? How does that work? The psychotic rhythm of a human body, the wake and sleep cycle, is actually more tuned to Mars rotation on its own axis. A Mars day versus an Earth day, which is pretty weird that we don't we aren't synced to our own planet after all these thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of years. Is that the same as our circadian rhythm? Circadian rhythm, right.

So when, how do they calculate it's more tuned to Mars? Like how does that work? Well, it's just they, geneticists and scientists discovered that our day, our perfect wake and sleep cycle is more tuned to Mars rotation on its axis, which is about 23-something minute hours, versus Earth being 24 hours. And so they said, wow, this is incredible. And the more they tested it and the more they studied it, they realized we're more tuned to the Mars than we are to Earth, which is pretty strange. We are weird.

We accept shit like leap year. Right. Like what kind of whack calendar do you have where... Here's makeup stuff. If some years the month is longer, what the fuck are you doing? I know, for what? Make a better calendar.

Isn't there a better calendar? Yeah. Shouldn't there be like a digital calendar that represents exactly what's going on and not go January? Come on fuck out of here Pretty bizarre, but you know what's interesting if you want to say oh human beings could be aliens Well, actually every person on this planet is an alien. Even our planet itself is an alien Scientists just discovered something interesting. I've never talked about this shit on a podcast. You guys should look this up

so our Milky Way galaxy is pretty interesting because it's absorbing another galaxy at this exact moment called the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy. Not the Sagittarius constellation, that's something totally different. We are absorbing the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy at this exact moment. People thought for all these decades, looking over even hundreds of years, looking up in the night sky, seeing that swath of stars going across, that's the Milky Way. Guess what? We've been wrong the whole time. This is now being taught in universities and astrophysics. So what you're looking at, you're looking at the absorption or the

merging of the Sagittarius with the Milky Way galaxy. And the exact point where it merges and drops into the Milky Way is right where our solar system is located, which would explain the rogue planets that we know that are out there. There's millions of rogue planets that have no sun that are just floating free around. There's planets and solar systems that are orbiting far beyond the orbit of Pluto in our inner Oort cloud, admitted by astronomers now, that there's other solar systems within this inner Oort cloud area orbiting our Sun to be 4200 years. So all of a sudden, that's Corey Powell, the astronomer at Discovery magazine, by the way, who said that. So this is pretty interesting. We're talking about the fact that our

solar system itself is an implant into the Milky Way, that we come from Sagittarius, we're not even part of the Milky Way galaxy Whoa, okay. So when they're looking at our own solar system They have an understanding that there's a thing called the Kuiper belt. It's out there and there's so many objects in there They're small and that's one of the reasons why they decided to declassify Pluto as a planet because there's other objects real similar in size. Yeah, Maki-Maki and all those other planets. But they think there's something large out there. They think there's something large out there that they haven't yet identified because of the way that gravity is responding. What is the reason for it? Well, what happens is they discovered that in some way millions of years ago

something moved through our solar system and captured its own weird orbit around our Sun. And what's crazy is the evidence is in our solar system so Saturn and Neptune switch locations because of a gravitational field. Uranus has flipped on its side and orbits its equator is orbiting north and south not east and west. And they know that- Lucky got hit. Lucky got hit or something gravitationally just tugged at it so hard that it flipped sideways. And it never stops.

Never stops. And it moved through our solar system way out beyond the orbit of Pluto and this thing captured its own orbit. This is in the Enuma Elysium, the seven types of creation. This exact process that's been described now by astrophysicists and astronomers is an ancient text that we can read and we can see, oh my god, this is exactly what this text is saying. It's talking about the creation of our solar system. It even talks about the creation of Earth in that text. It says that when Marduk, aka

Nibiru, a moon of Nibiru, crashed into Tiamat, it broke into pieces and became the hammered bracelet. That's the asteroid belt. One giant chunk swung away, recoalesced with everything, water, land and organic material needed for life and became the earth, tugging with it the moon. So it's pretty crazy that the creation of this planet itself, and it says that it pushed the net force, pushed Mercury closer to the Sun and pushed Venus closer to the Sun, and then we took the third spot in place around our orbit around our Sun. And then of course we have Mars which used to be a moon, a habitable moon of Tiamat, a planet that was four to six times larger than Earth and it slung into this crazy orbit.

That's why Mars has this weird orbit and you have to you have to rendezvous with it if you're NASA or anybody trying to rendezvous with Mars every two years when it's an apogee or perigee. You have to, apogee or perigee, one of them is further away than the other. One is 80 million miles and the other one's closer. So if you rendezvous every two years, you can capture the orbit of Mars and you can actually get there in four months. And then they looked at it and said, wow, they meaning astrophysicists, this looks like this Mars wasn't originally in this type of orbit.

It must've been orbiting something else in our solar system, which it was. One side is charred black and the other side is smooth. So the side where TMA exploded, those chunks hit Mars on one side, created a very charred side. And the other side is the smoothest surface in the solar system,

which is because of the global flood that that created. And then Mars's axis on its equator is tilted 45 degrees on its axis, which means the mass shifted it down 45 degrees. They had a major global catastrophe there on Mars. And then after Mars, you have another little planet that survived called Ceres, C-E-R-E-S, which is also a result of this Tiamat exploding. People don't even talk about C about series It has the most fresh water of any other planet in our solar system more more. Where's where's this location? That's the next planet after Mars series really see er es. How big is it? It's about maybe two-thirds smaller than Mars and guess what planet so they don't it's

follows an orbit between Mars and Jupiter near the middle of the asteroid belt with an orbital period. Click on that, Jamie. When they flew by it about- You heard about this before? I didn't know there was another planet out there. Listen, when they flew by it a few years ago, the lights were on.

They sent the probe out there. What? The lights were on. And so they tried to say it was ice particles glistening in the sunlight. So when they got to the dark side, guess what? The lights were on on so they start trying to say it was ice particles glistening in the sunlight so when they got to the dark side guess what the lights were on on the dark side so they couldn't use the ice particle explanation anymore so they just said we don't know what it is. What?

Ceres small size means that even at its brightest is too dim to be seen by the naked eye except under extremely dark skies its apparent magnitude ranges from 6.7 to 9.3, peaking in opposition with what's closest to Earth. Once every 15 to 16 month in, how do you say that word, synodic? Synodic? I don't know where you're at now. 16 month synodic period. Oh yeah, synodic.

Synodic period. Synodic. Synodic. As a result, its surface features are barely visible even with the most powerful telescopes and little is known about it until the robotic NASA spacecraft Dawn approached Ceres for its orbital mission in 2015. And we have high resolution images of the surface. There are strange things there as well, which is pretty crazy. What are the images of the surface?

You have to go to nasa.gov and go to the Dawn images and you can download or sometimes the European Space Agency has them as well. Yes. And then you can grab those images. It's pretty crazy. Some things just don't look right there. But there's a lot. What doesn't look right? Well, you know, if you look at Mohenjandara or areas of Egypt that's, you know, or even, you know, Iraq where we used to be Samaria structures that used to be there that are now worn down and weathered they have similar looks there some of the things that they look similar there not that's not not saying that they are I'm just saying that they look strange some things look we have a lot of strange things on earth that are natural that's

true we sure do we even have octagons and straight lines on earth that are natural as well that was one of the craziest ones that Terrence brought up was the octagon on Saturn. Yeah. Was it Saturn? Yeah. Saturn. Saturn. That when you look at the octagon on Saturn, it's mimicked in the model that they created by using... the whole idea that he really blew my mind with was the Goldilocks zone idea. That planets reach a certain distance from the sun, and that's when life starts happening. And this is a normal force that happens everywhere in the universe.

And as time goes on, that planet's going to get further and further from the sun, and it's going to lose its ability to do that. And then a new planet will move into the Goldilocks Zone. And that is also going to become like us. And then so if you are following this idea of this idea makes sense it means that this is just this sort of natural process that these intelligent creatures go through and even though we're looking at like AI

and we're looking at technologies like oh my god we can't even be people anymore well guess what we can't be people anymore right because we're not gonna make it right don't yeah there's there's a timeline it seems like you're only gonna live a hundred years so it's no big deal but it if we don't. There's a timeline. It seems like you're only going to live 100 years, so it's no big deal. But humans, if we keep going a few million years, we're going to have a real problem. A billion years from now, we're not going to be around anymore.

And then there's going to come a time where the sun doesn't exist anymore. Exactly. So if you get so intelligent that you can escape the boundaries of the physical world, and you can move throughout the cosmos wherever you want, then you've escaped. You've escaped this fear. But it's almost like there's an intelligent test. An intelligence test that life goes through. Like we're going to give

you all the tools just like you're in the womb. You're in the womb of Mother Earth. We're going to give you all the tools, but you got to get out of the house. At a certain point in time, you got to get out of the house. Yeah. At a certain point in time, you gotta get out of the house. You're 24, you're still living at home? Yeah. Get the fuck out of the house. They're waiting for us to grow up. Yeah.

This is what, you know, human beings are like babies right now as a civilization, trying to learn how to walk. And right now we're barely crawling, and then we plop down on our stomach and everybody screams and cries. But we're getting to the point eventually where we'll go to the edge of a table and pull ourselves up. And then we'll take a couple of steps

and then we'll fall again. Everybody will think it's all over. Oh my God, we were doing so good and it collapsed again. But no, that's just a fall. The baby will pull itself back up, it'll cry less and it'll take more steps until it falls again and until it can get this controlled fall. And that's the definition of walking, controlling your fall.

So we're in that process now. Like you said, this is a proving ground for us to be able to develop consciously, spiritually, ascend to higher levels, and eventually, I believe, I'm pretty optimistic for mankind that we will get through this period. Well, that's a beautiful thing to hear. I love when people are optimistic, because I'm always like, I don't know which way to go. I tend to be optimistic. Well, you know, it proves what these ancient beings were doing. They were creating breakaway civilizations throughout the entire Milky Way galaxy because of what you just said. The fact that, you know, planets won't be habitable forever. Even Earth, let's say Earth never moved and stayed right where it's at in the Goldilocks zone.

We're gonna lose our control over the weather because the moon is moving away at a few centimeters every single year. And as the moon backs off of Earth, our weather patterns are going to get more hectic and chaotic, and the wobble is going to be uncontrollable to the point where life won't be able to exist. Not our kind of life won't be able to exist on this planet. So just losing the moon alone in a few million years is going to destroy us.

So we have to create breakaway civilizations. We have to get out of here, which is what all these other advanced civilizations in these ancient texts have done. Well, it only makes sense if Terrence is correct about this idea of the Goldilocks Zone, it only makes sense. And if there are other planets somewhere in another galaxy or ours that have the same exact sort of features, water, the same temperature, the same mixture of amino acids and whatever the hell else

is here that makes life. And then it happens there too. It just makes sense that some places are going to be more stable, so they're going to have less natural disasters, so like people will evolve faster and longer, they'll exist longer. But then, you know, there's the argument that the natural disasters are actually good, because the natural disasters knock us back down if we're about to destroy everything, knock us back down to some much more primitive version of ourselves and then we have to rebuild society again over thousands of

years which to the universe is a blink of an eye. That's a blink of an eye, you're right. That's exactly what happened in the animal tablets. You know, 36,000 years ago, Thoth, he arrives in this place called the land of Kim, ancient Kimit before it was known as Egypt. His father sent them on a mission to rebuild civilization back up to a high level, meaning that it already was at a high level prior to this flood situation. And he says he gets into the great ship of the Master and he takes off into the sky until the earth disappears. And then he goes to the plane appointed and he sees beneath him the children of the land of Kim and he descends down he doesn't sail in he

descends down and when his ship lands he opens his doors and he comes out with his crew and he says the barbarians came at him to attack him with clutches and spears he says I raised my staff and sent out a ray of vibrations stopping him still as fragments of stone of the mountain. So he had a stun gun. He had a weapon that was not lethal, non-lethal weapon that can freeze you in your tracks. And we have something just like that now in the military called the active denial system.

They can send a beam and a crowd coming to attack and make them stop still right in their tracks. They can make you feel like you're on fire, make you feel like you want to vomit. They can even put voices in your head. They can make you feel like you're on fire, make you feel like you wanna vomit. They can even put voices in your head. They can make you be in extreme, extreme pain. It's called the active denial system. So he's talking about technology back then

that we have right now. Dude, look up that. Cause is that, do you think that's what that Havana syndrome thing is? It's possible, man. This thing, if you put it above, like in the sky, and aim it at an area and it beam spreads a little bit, you can create mass illness, mass sickness, mass hysteria.

You can have everyone running around thinking that they've got somebody talking to them and telling, commanding them to do certain things. It's out of control. This weapon can be fully weaponized in a lethal way, in a way that can make people become psychotic. You can make somebody think they're burning it on fire. Whoa active denial system demo can we listen what this guy's saying? It can deter individuals on a military perimeter all

the way up to a riotous crowd, all without permanent harm. It only penetrates 1 6 1 4th of an inch of your skin. Those very shallow, into where your nerve receptors are. They can't take the pain. Whoa. No permanent injury caused by it. So what does it do to them? It's kind of a frequency, a beam of frequency,

just like Thoth says in the animal tablets. I put this in my book because it's important. They even let any of the guests volunteer to test out its effectiveness and safety. a beam of frequency, just like Thoth says in the Animal Tablets. I put this in my book because it's important. ... any of the guests volunteer to test out its effectiveness and safety, including the Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps... Wow, he said, fuck it. He said, fuck it. ... and Assistant Secretary of the Navy. Most described it as feeling like a hot oven or grill being opened up.

It is something that... Wow! So that's what he used on them thousands of years ago. Holy shit! Or something like 2012. Oh now they turned you into a statue. Now it's over. Medusa! Holy shit! What do you think Medusa was? Frequency technology. Imagine that. Imagine that story story we always thought that was just some crazy story

Yeah, but imagine there's a technology back then that can actually turn you into stone right now that we know that people can do things Like that and then we would imagine a thousand years of evolution ten thousand five hundred thousand whatever these people are Yeah, whatever these things are that ever that have the ability. It's kind of disappointing that they're still waging a war though, I've got to tell you that. That's crazy. That's a bummer. That's a real archaic mindset. We have to find a way to rise above.

This is why we need to understand exactly what happened and how do we overcome what's been embedded into our epigenetic memories because we're suffering from epigenetic mental hysteria which is psychosis, and this war psychosis. We've been programmed as human beings to have consumption and fighting and competition over collaboration. Everything is designed to keep us separate. Dividing conquer is the main mission, and it works so well for so many thousands of years. And this dividing conquer tactic that's been burnt into our DNA and our code has put us in a situation where we are not advancing as we should be.

We're getting now this technology leaked out to us, and yes, that's advancing pretty fast, but consciously and spiritually, it's holding us back. Everyone's putting themselves in boxes and saying, I'm a part of this thing and I'm a part of that thing, and then we don't work together. No, that's such an important point, and it needs to be drilled into people's heads. We're distracting ourselves by getting involved in these stupid arguments over stupid things, right? There's really important issues with the world and those aren't being addressed and one of the big ones is How do you stop people from killing each other?

I stopped war how do we stop this insane practice of having groups of people go up against groups of people? They've never even met and killing them exactly and then we're all okay with this We talked about how this is normal and this has to be done and these war is ugly and it's unfortunate But we have to do it like okay. Are you fucking sure who's who's pulling the strings here people with $10,000 suits that don't get on The front line yeah, they send poor kids and young kids young men and women to die yeah, and you know they exactly It's all about money. It's all about money, and you know smedley butler wrote about it in 1933 Wars a racket yeah, that's right you read that read that from 1933 folks And this was a general who was he a general his general his rank

Yeah, who's retiring and he wrote this piece about how he thought he was preserving democracy He was really just making the place safe for bankers. And it's just an ugly business that Eisenhower tried to warn us about in his leaving from office speech. That's right. When he stepped down, or when he was no longer the president, he left office and gave a speech about warning about the military industrial complex and its influence.

He sure did. And I don't think they knew back then that people would be able to have YouTube and just watch that. Yeah. If that's how they did it back then, imagine how good they are at it now. Oh man, they're masters at neuroscience. Applying neuroscience to the general population, they are masters at it. And they know how to get into the psyche of a human being, and they know how to turn us

against each other while they themselves chop it all up like I always say there is no Democrat or Republican doesn't exist the only thing that exists is a group of elite oligarchs that torture men women and children worldwide that exists they capitalize and monetize us and they put their boot on our neck but the thing that is left wing and a right wing I think it's the same bird yeah it's all just money yeah it's left wing and a right wing, I think it's the same bird. Yeah, it's all just money. It's all money. And they use social issues, whatever they are,

whether it's Christianity or abortion rights, whatever it is, they just use those as little moves that they put in their little game. And really what it's about is enriching themselves and staying in power. And the best way to stay in power is control narratives and control influence and make people believe a very specific thing and drill it into their head.

But the problem is like, I think human beings are more awake now than ever before and they know this game now. At least a large number of us know this game. It's shifting so fast. It's shifting like incredibly fast, which is great. How old are you, Billy? I'll be 53 in September. You look great

Thanks, man. So you and I are basically close to the same age. I'm 56 and when when we were kids This version of the world was never discussed You'd have to be a complete kook to think that money is what why wars are started. Oh, come on No one would ever do that, right? You would be a complete kook to think that the pharmaceutical drug companies lie about their drugs. What are you talking about? They can't do that. They would be arrested. Yeah.

You'd be a kook. Yeah. And now, especially after the pandemic, that's how everybody feels. And watching these wars go on between Ukraine and Russia and Palestine and Israel, you're like, what the fuck is going on? In the 21st century, this is still happening right now.

In large scale. And people are having debate over the acceptable amount of numbers of women and children that are allowed to die in a war. Right. It's insane. It's insanity. Earth is partly, it's a giant mental facility.

Mental health is a major issue on this planet. When a person can look at someone and say they deserve to die because of their beliefs or their non-belief, that's a major problem. That's a sign of mental illness. It's also a sign of like a spoiled child. It's almost like we skipped the line, right? We didn't really do it. We didn't pay our dues to become people. We got turned into people, you know, like right because if we there's Anthropologists are looking at chimpanzees now and they're looking at them saying they're entering into the Stone Age Yeah Like they're using tools now now if you watch that same chimpanzee and you went a few million years in the future

Who knows what it looks like probably looks like an upward Looking human that has much more intricate tools. who knows if it's created stone weapons structures houses they may develop a language true you could watch chimpanzees over the course of evolution but that's too slow yeah and so if you were another highly intelligent being for another planet like they're gonna get there give a little something give a little something and the evidence of that is a little something. And the evidence of that is in tablets called the Myth of Adapa, which means first man. The Myth of Adapa, an ancient Sumerian text. It's a tablet. And in this tablet, you can buy the book Myth of Adapa on Amazon. You can read it for yourself, completely translated. And translated by scholars, by the way. And it's

talking about the fact that according to the Anunnaki, human beings were created in a way that genetically we were supposed to become more superior than them. They didn't know this was gonna happen and Lil was angry at his brother Enki because Enki put a little extra in the sauce. Yeah, a little extra. And he said that the mysteries to unlock the secrets of the universe is hidden within our bodies and that we ourselves can rise to be even higher than them. This is a major thing to be putting into text like this. Now who sits around and writes this? That sounds insane. Yeah. How do they specifically describe that? They describe it just like that. It says that human beings or man, we call man, Adapa, Adapa was created to be even higher than us and that all the secrets of the universe,

the mysteries, are within our body. And I believe that because when I started studying DNA, that took me into a whole DNA study, I discovered this scientist called George Church. And he created this e-book that he was able to take from a digital format and he was able to download it onto one drop, one gram of DNA, a digital book. He converted it from ACs, Ts and Gs into... From zeros and ones, I'm sorry. He converted it from zeros and ones into ACs, Ts and Gs, read, write, put it on the DNA. Then he said, wow, this is incredible.

DNA can store information in a volume. Then he said, okay, this is what we're going to do. Let's replicate this book. So he replicated the book 80 billion times on one gram of DNA. And this is not just a regular ebook. This book had graphics and images and everything else in it. So then he said, let's see if we can get it back.

So he converted, he created a read write again. He converted it from A, Cs, Ts, and Gs back to zeros and ones and uploaded it back to the server. So now he knows that DNA can upload and download information. Crazy. Whoa. So now they said, okay, well how much data can be stored on one drop? Over 433 petabytes of data. A petabyte is a thousand terabytes. What an unfortunate name. I know, right? I know, that's a crazy name. I was like, why'd y'all name it this? That's a bite. But anyway, yeah, so so they say now they discovered recently on holmium atoms, scientists have now

written information data onto an individual holmium atom and they discovered that we can store information they can read write directly onto the surface of an actual atom. Now think about that for a second. Oh my god. So they're saying that a human body can store 13.5 billion years or roughly of data, which is roughly around the time they believe the universe probably exists. So that myth of adapa text could be accurate. The secrets of the universe is probably encoded into our body because we're just recycled atoms. Right. And then as we evolve technologically and biologically, we develop a higher and higher ability

to access that information. Exactly. That's exactly what it is. The longer we go, the more we're able to tap in to this information, tap into who we truly are. We'll begin to walk in our power. Look inside. Go to inner space, not outer space.

We'll begin to tap into this. And they discover now that junk DNA is no longer junk. They're taking the term junk off of it, that it really has function. It always had function. It was never junk. That's just a word to keep us programmed to thinking that we're junk. Well, I think it was a way for them to explain something that they couldn't explain. Right.

But when you use the word junk, if you understand affirmations, you know, I would never call myself junk. So that's a weird way to do it. But now they're finding out that that's, you know, and again in the myth of Adapa, it's saying that we're gonna tap into this. So I believe that all of our innate abilities that we used to have are gonna start to come back over time, like accessing Earth's magnetic field with the magnetite crystals in our brains. We all have billions of magnetite crystals in our brains and they put a guy into a laboratory and they put a giant bar magnet and moved it around the room and they put an EEG cap on him and a scanner and they saw that they were orienting

themselves to the magnetic field. So we still have the ability to navigate magnetic fields, we just don't don't even know, we're unaware of it. Well we know it exists in animals. Yeah, so we have it in our body as well. So all these things are going to begin to come back. There's an There's so little true understanding of like how birds migrate like how they all know when to do it And what what is calling them? What a very specific direction are they using landmarks on the ground? Are they just be using some sort of a magnetic field or they just tuned in to where the North Pole is What are they doing? Yeah, how are they doing it? What is the organ that's allowing them to do it?

Yeah, is that something that humans have and we just we it went away just like I can't remember anybody's phone number anymore, right? So many phone numbers in my head we had to happen because we're you know, we're 70s babies. Yeah Oh, you're still you may be 60 60. I 70s. 71. But yeah, but what happened was, if you look at the tablets again, this is why I love these tablets, man. They talk about the fact that, you know, they had created this being, not created from scratch, but genetically modified. They add their essence to it, is what they say, added our essence. So by adding the essence, you can see where all of a sudden maybe our ancestors were in tune With the magnetic field and were able to communicate

Psychopathically, maybe even had telekinesis and these other innate abilities weren't technologically advanced But maybe more spiritually advanced and they tinkered with us and took away our memory took away our ability to tap into that So we can focus solely on them. Mmm into that so we can focus solely on them. I guess if you were gonna, you know, have you ever seen the movie Prometheus? Oh yeah. When the alien dies and its DNA goes into the water. If you were gonna play a real long game and seed life in the universe, and then you were gonna, I mean especially with us, if you were gonna create something that's very sophisticated and

Encode inside of it enough information that they could figure out everything just it's gonna take time So you have to earn this information, but it's in there. Mm-hmm Yeah, it's such a compelling theory The problem is I get so wrapped up in these that I hope they're true And when I hope they're true is time to hope they're true, I stop thinking critically. Because I'm like, that's the most fun. It's the most fun to think that we were created by aliens. It's the most fun to think there's a base

on the north side of the moon. But the undeniable stuff that, to me, is equally compelling, I think, even than the aliens. It's like, how did they make the pyramids? Who did that? Who did that? What was that culture like right like if I could go one place? I would go to Egypt Giza when it's thriving. Yeah, when it's thriving whatever. I don't even know what the number is You know, I don't know if it's a John Anthony West number or if it's a you know, more conventional number of 4,000 Whatever it is. Just get me there. Let me see what that was

Yeah, what were you guys doing right? How the fuck did you make that thing? How did you get those stones from 500 miles away? How did you cut them so perfectly? How did you get them all the way up in the ceiling of this giant King's chamber? What was that damn thing? Why did it have a gold cap on the top right like what did what did you guys do? How did you make the gold cap like what did you guys do it's wild I go with the John Anthony West here I'm closer to his timeframes yeah rest in peace John Anthony West he was amazing amazing amazing man Wow yeah magical Egypt folks it's I think there's two versions of the video series that you can get online go find it it's incredible the first one I watched like ten times. Yeah. This is just the, I mean forget about speculation, forget about timelines, just the undeniable majesty

of the construction of those structures and the statues and like what they built was like, my God, like nothing else. Yeah. Like nothing else in the world No, no one's even a distant second place. No, not even close. I mean, I mean I'll each of can just stand above all of it and it was so long ago Yeah, it's super ancient, you know and what I like about Jonathan West his his theory aligns with the Emerald Tablets date range Because you know when he talks about the great Sphinx being built two processional periods back, it takes it back to around 36, 38,000 years ago, around the same time that Thoth claims to have written the Emerald Tabots.

And in these tablets, he talks about building the Great Pyramid. He said, build it, I, the Great Pyramid, patterned after Earth's force, so that it too might remain through the ages. So he claims to be the master architect of the structure of the Great Pyramid. And what he did was he incorporated into it

Advanced science. It's not just a power generator. It's also in my opinion. It also could be a multifunctional stone computer Okay, and this thing calculates the orbits of the planets in the inner solar system, which is crazy How does it do that? Well, if I have some can I open up this is recent notes I got some incredible notes that I did some math that I'm amazed at how much you don't need notes There's a few people that come on this podcast that blow me away without notes like Terrence is one of them Yeah, he's one of me on the half of Rhonda Patrick. She's another one of them I just want to get the numbers exact, you know

so one thing the equatorial circumference of the Earth can be calculated by the Great Pyramid because the Great Pyramid itself is 1 by 43,200 scaled down. So if you take the Great Pyramid and scale it up 43,200 times, it fits directly inside the sphere of the Earth and it touches the equator. So meaning the dimensions of how the angles of it would fit inside of a sphere. Inside of a sphere. It's a representation of the Earth in a pyramidal format. That's crazy. And if you multiply that by the base perimeter, you get 24,734.94 miles, which is roughly within 170 miles of the circumference of the planet Earth itself,

which is wild. You can also calculate the speed of the Earth around the Sun. So the Great Pyramid, basically you take a pyramid inch times 10 to the eighth power, it equals the speed of Earth around the Sun. That's wild. The problem with these kind of calculations is Flint Dibble made note of this, that you could take that and you could do that with a lot of different things. Like what was the one he used for 420? Yeah he had 420 and 69 in it. Yeah he had a bunch of different funny ones. 420 on We Day?

Yeah, We Day. He was explaining how you take these arbitrary procession of the equinox numbers and you could multiply them times like whatever you want you could get a bunch of different results like based on what you wanted the result to be not based on the actual some of them are hard to do check this out forget about okay multiplying things what about taking the fact that the pyramid the Great Pyramid is located at the center of landmass on earth not the center of the earth the center of land mass now the only way you can put the pyramid at the center of land mass is you have to have a polar orbiting satellite if we

Were to do it today a polar orbiting satellite that's orbiting this way and as earth spins on its axis You're taking swaths of data and you're calculating the landmass and then you're gonna say okay This is the center point for landmass and you put it there So the center point for landmass being you take the surface of the earth What percentage of it is covered with water where the ground is right? And then you find the center of where the most ground is, and that's where the pyramid is. Exactly.

Exactly. The next thing is taking all the average heights of all the peaks on earth and then dividing that to get the average height and making that the height of the Great Pyramid. Now you can't just randomly calculate those numbers. That's the average height of all the mountains and the peaks on earth? That's right. Wow. That's right, and that's an absolute fact.

The Grand Gallery, the latitude of the Grand Gallery inside the Great Pyramid leading into the King's Chamber, the latitude are the exact digits of the speed of light in meters per second. You can't just randomly calculate that one. Well, you can't just get those that one. Well you can't just get those stones down. I mean there's not one thing about it. You can get real crazy with numbers and mathematics but there's not one thing about it that's not completely insane. Like every single aspect of it is completely

insane. The fact that we still will try to pretend today that it's not impressive or that it was impressive but that they did it with sand and they did it with like how do you know? You would need more mud if you the mud ramp theory you would need more mud in mass than the pyramid itself so that's that's a farce. The mud thing I mean it's like just show me one yeah show me one just here's the problem with that mud ramp theory I don't think people realize I take people on tour to the pyramid every single year I take people on a huge tour yet last year

We had 140 people on tour in Egypt for 12 days or whatever was but the pyramid itself each individual stone at the pyramid Excuse me each individual stone at the pyramid is a different shape and size There are no two stones that are perfectly the same. Each stone fits in an interlocking format. So you can't say, go over here and cut these stones, we're gonna bring them over here and we're gonna throw up this pyramid. It doesn't work that way. Each stone is made individually,

specifically for the location that it's exactly in. Because they all have to be in an angle. Because they're all going up towards this angle, so everyone has to be cut perfect. Exactly. So they're interlocking stones, angle, so everyone has to be cut perfect. Exactly. So they're interlocking stones, and there's no way to say, just cut this cookie cutter out and we're going to bring them and hoist them in the spot. And all of them are perfect.

All of them are perfect. And if you accidentally cut the wrong size or you're off by a few inches, you can't make the period. You can spend a week or two getting a stone to a location that don't fit. It doesn't make any sense. They had foreknowledge. People don't take the amount of resources, energy, effort that stone to a location that don't fit. It doesn't make any sense. They had foreknowledge. People don't take the amount of resources, energy, effort that it took to build that structure and then guessing that it will work out in the end.

You only build that if you have a complete blueprint and you've got proven facts, right? You have proof of concept that it works and you've done this before. Now, what do you think about the other pyramids that are wonky, like the ones that aren't perfect? Do you think that they were trying to duplicate the Great Pyramid? Do you think they were trying to make their own? The deeper you go into antiquity, the more perfect construction was. The further you come forward in time, the more wonky and crazy things are on begin to fall apart. So do you think they just forgot how to

do it? The knowledge was lost. You can see the evidence of the knowledge. By the time we got to Alexander the Great, have you ever been to Alexandria? No. I thought I was going to go see this incredible place. It looks like a bunch of crap, a bunch of piled up rocks, buildings leaning on each other, even the people living in apartments that are leaning, buildings leaning. Oh, wow. Everything there looks just, it was the, what, the stones are small. I could pick up those stones with my own hands. They tried to duplicate the majesty of ancient Egypt, but they didn't even come close. It's just so bizarre that one civilization got so much further than everybody else, and no one really knows exactly how they did it. Right, light years ahead. Now when you hear the carbon dating of the Great

Pyramid, what is your take on that? Because the radio carbon dating is 2500 BC, right? That's what they think. I just don't believe it. Why is that? Well, first of all, the way that the structure is made, if you look at other structures made in that same time frame, they don't have the same majesty. They don't have the same level of construction. They don't have the same capability of withstanding time. So why are these falling apart, but this one isn't falling apart? But that's not

necessarily... because look you could have a shitty house today and you can live right next to Jeff Bezos' house. That's very true. I mean it's just there's gonna be different cultures and different abilities and you know different craftsmen. Within the same region, I talking about the same area yeah but even in the same area you're always gonna have people that suck if you look at the subterranean shaft I don't know if you've ever been there it descends beneath the Great Pyramid down into the ground on a specific angle about 65 meters and there's another 30 meter drop straight beneath that and this is where

Christopher Dunn has hypothesized there was something that was creating a frequency down there, something that like pounds in the earth, creates a very specific frequency and a very specific vibration that goes through the entire stone structure, which theoretically could work. Oh yeah, absolutely. And then this whole thing about using different chemicals

in these shafts that leak through the limestone and that limestone is porous and you would have a specific amount of thickness with limestone so you know exactly how much chemicals to put in the shafts. And the shafts did exist and they did have openings to them and they were sealed. You could open them up and dump things into them and then the passageway that goes into the king's chamber, the so-called king's chamber, and that it has opening shafts that go to the heavens. Yes, they do.

And the whole... And I think I know why. My hypothesis on those shafts is, well, you look at the way the pyramid is designed, the Queen's chamber is technology. It seems to be like an electrolysis-generating machine to extract hydrogen from water. And Chris Dunn had the same, pretty close to the same hypothesis I had with that. Now why hydrogen? It's the most abundant element in the universe and right

now today we try to communicate with ET on the hydrogen frequency. Now those shafts, imagine on the certain alignments we know for a fact that pyramid aligns with specific planets or stars, Orion, Aldebaran, Draco, these alignments and then these shafts would send out this hydrogen frequency potentially on my hypothesis around those alignments. Why? For communication purposes. Updates on this breakaway civilization because I believe there was an ancient galactic war which I talk about in my show, my docuseries Anunnaki, and this ancient war created these space refugees which then spread

out around the Milky Way. Earth just happens to be one of the breakaway civilizations. It's not outside the realm of possibility when you think about what we're doing. And if we get more advanced and do this better, that we could be still involved in very similar types of activities throughout the galaxy. It sounds terrible, but that just might be how things get done. Unfortunately, war might just be a part of our essence and it might be a part of the whole cosmic balance of good and evil, that this shifting of the winds and this, you know, of the tides coming in and coming out, it's like this, it needs good and bad. It needs all these things. Yeah. Well in the biblical text, God says in Isaiah, I create the good and I create the evil. Do what I say at the Lord. Right. God says in Isaiah, I create the good and I create the evil. Do what I say at the Lord. Right, the battle, the struggle.

He's saying He creates good and evil. Yin and yang is what they call in, you know, in ancient cultures, right? Good and evil, dark and light, it's all the same thing. It's the most fascinating subject to me. It really is. The most fascinating subject is when I hear stories from the Bible or the Bhagavad Gita or the Talmud or any of these stories, like what was the origin? What were they trying to say? What were they documenting? What were they sharing in an oral tradition

of the history of people and of the earth and of the heavens themselves? Like what were they sharing? What were those things? How much of it was myth? How much of it was someone misinterpreted the original story and watered it down. But at the beginning of it, even at the beginning, there was light. Just that it's literally like the Big Bang.

Yeah, it's literally describing what the current scientists believe happened. And then you think about these stories of floods. And then we know there's evidence like the randall carlson work all his work on the Flooding that existed where you could see these like enormous channels cut through that It's indicative of just insane amounts of water over a short period of time and when he describes that you're like what? then the fact that we know that there's of time. And when he describes that you're like what? And then the fact that we know that there's asteroid impacts, there's comet impacts, and that the ice age ended abruptly and that all these areas, like this is where it was, this is where it went down and this

might be every fucking story that you've heard from the beginning of time. Epic of Gilgamesh, Noah and the Ark, all these stories. Yeah, all of it. I mean obviously the Noah story is inside of the Epic of Gilgamesh, Noah and the Ark, all these stories. Yeah, all of it. I mean, obviously, the Noah story is inside of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Yes. I believe that is a result of the Younger Dryas Incident. In the Epic of Atra-Hasis, there is this strike of this, either an asteroid or whatever it is that's going to hit. It doesn't specifically say, but they had the ability to stop it.

And there's this other disc that has cuneiform writing on it, which is supposedly the direction that this thing took course through space to hit Earth. And so it was kind of known that this was gonna happen. And everywhere you look on the Earth, around that same time period that this is estimated to happen, megalithic construction stopped. What happened that everyone stopped at the same time,

unfinished in the quarry, unfinished in the quarry, over here, unfinished in the quarry, all of a sudden around the entire planet, everything is unfinished. Something happened globally that made people stop working on these structures and go to maybe Deron Kuyue underground base or in the Americas that, you know, they say that the ant people, the Hopi say the ant people took them under.

If you couldn't go under and save yourself, you had a ship. We know that Zia Zidra in the Epic of Gilgamesh was told how to build a ship, but it wasn't a boat like what we know was said in the Bible. It was actually a disc he was told to build. We found the tablet for that. So we have the tablet in the British Museum.

It was an actual disc that looked like pie sections on the inside. And he was told to collect his local flora and fauna and his local livestock, not two of every kind in the world He didn't get two ticks and two fleas and two it didn't happen You know he had local livestock, but he built a disk not a ship which is pretty interesting But yeah, these stories are everywhere. You know it's pretty crazy. It is crazy

And it's it's just so strange when you see resistance to the idea, while there's still real evidence of this impact. Once there was real evidence of the impact, once the younger tris impact theory started being discussed by legitimate scientists and they recognized when they're doing these core samples that they find nuclear glass and they find all of these things like iridium that are very common

in space, very rare on earth, all this very thin layer. It's like it's real clear there's a time where all this shit goes down. Yeah it happened. And there's also mass die-offs in places and my friend John Reeves, have you ever seen the Alaska Boneyard on Instagram? No I haven't seen that one. Wow. Jamie pull that up. So he has this piece of land and he's a gold miner in Alaska. He's a fucking great character and he has this amazing piece of land that they've pulled out thousands of bones and tusks and woolly mammoths and animals that aren't even the bone yard Alaska is his Instagram. That put things that weren't even supposed to exist in that that area

Yeah, they have absolute proof of these things existing different cats and short-faced bears and all kinds of shit So they're pulling things out every day He just texted me the other day asked me to come out and blow out a Macedon bone. I can't make it, bro I can't I'm busy, but I love this dude. Yeah, and what he's doing up there is all his this is his property credible. So he's got it all documented He's got warehouses. He spent millions of dollars doing all this stuff. Yeah, and his one area is only a few acres, man Wow, it's only a few a man was really up there imagine what's really up there And what he thinks is that there was a mass die-off that probably happened instantaneously and all these things got swept in the water yeah and and washed down into this one particular area where they collected

and that's where he's finding them. Gotcha that makes sense. So he's got two very specific areas that aren't that big yeah just a few acres each I think the biggest one is like six acres. Wow. It's crazy and so they're using these high pressure hoses and they shoot into the permafrost and they slow because it's you know It's cold. It's a lot up there So everything is just frozen into the ground right so they blast into the permafrost and start to loosen things up and Show some of the images of the warehouses that yes, I mean insane amounts of tusks and bones and there's even more than this the the

The what is the museum in New York that has his bones? natural history museum From the previous owners of this property They they took a bunch of these bones and they wind up dumping some of them in the East River because they had too many Oh, man, so then they've sent out people, what is his name? Dirty Water Dan? Don. Dirty Water Don.

Dirty Water Don, who's this fucking scuba diver guy who goes into the East River, who found woolly mammoth bones and what the other one, bison bones, all these different bones at the bottom of the fucking East River, exactly where he said they would be dumped off. So they dumped them because they had so much of them and then they have a bunch of them that are still there So now now they have Alaskan politicians who are pressuring the museum to release these things back to these people so they can get them In the hands of people that could fucking study them right because they just have them locked up And they're just trying to say that they're theirs first they tried to deny They have them then he provided paperwork, and there's proof

And then they denied there was ever any dumped into the East River. But now they pulled them out of the East River. Now they know. It's real. So look at this. That's incredible. This is insane.

That's an incredible graveyard. This is insane. Wow. Boning. He calls it, when you help, it's a boneyard, so if you go there you become a boner. So he wants to make me an official boner. So all these bones, this is just a small sampling

of what this guy has. We have one out there. We have a bison head that he gave me. Well I saw it out there. Yeah, that's what that is. That's what that is, that came from here? Yeah, that's probably 15,000 years old or something. Who knows?

Yeah, that's crazy. This whole thing is insane. Look at all this stuff he's got. I mean, it's just, and this is just one small area that they're chipping away at. A few acres. So, and there's charred surface There's a layer that they go through that's all completely charred And he's documented this to like what the fuck happened here look at this layer this layer is insane this whole place was up in flames

Yeah, see the char. He's got it in there goes. There's thick layers of that could scroll up to his Caption what does it say? Something came in hot from out of this world, I'm thinking. What you're looking at is what we found on the bedrock when we were digging the drain. The bedrock is burned, the gravel is burned, and nobody knows why yet. That's okay, we'll figure it out someday.

So there's a whole layer of this. It's clearly something was on fucking fire. Definitely. Well, we foundred stones just like that at the base, ejected out from the base of the bent pyramid of Dozier. Really? And if you look at this, we've been documenting this,

I'm gonna put it in my TV show, the Anunnaki series, there's areas of the bent pyramid that look like they've been blown out. Something hit it and blew out the stones and charred them black, like just like that. And there's like a debris field out there and nobody is studying this stuff. So we started studying these charred stones,

these charred rocks. And up above the area where you kind of walk in to go down into the pyramid, there's more look like another impact point where there's more stones blown away. And as you walk out away from the face, you discover that's where they lay and you put your hand in the sand and pull up these charred burnt stones which is just wild. So can we see some of that? See what that looks like?

Look at the Bent Pyramid. The Bent Pyramid. If anybody goes to those corners they'll be able to show. Is this a common theory? This theory of being hit by something? Nobody's talked about it yet you know that's why I'm trying to and we're trying to analyze and see what could have happened. A piece hit there, but the bigger impact was somewhere else and it just wiped everybody out. Because you know how when something comes in,

it breaks into chunks. And then a piece hits over your piece. Yeah, see that corner there? You see that corner? Now that corner, I wish we could get a better color picture, but there's a debris field there. All those stones, it looks like an impact. And there's, out away from it, there's charred, there. All those stones are just, it looks like an impact and there's, out away from it,

there's charred burnt rocks in the sand. You pick up a regular piece of rock, you can see what that is, a geode. You put it up, these, it looks like charred burnt stone that came from the pyramids. I like to see the image of the charcus. To me, when I'm looking at that, it just looks like people were stealing rocks.

Yeah, but you know, that's exactly what it looks like, but that's not stealing rocks there. And the guide, the homegrown archeologist that was. Yeah, but you know, that's exactly what it looks like, but that's not stealing rocks there. And the guide, the homegrown archaeologist that was with us, Mohammed Ibrahim, has the same exact belief, because we are able to see the broken, those areas there, the mass of what's missing, the majority of it's in the sand, which is why I would send you the photo. Oh, okay.

So it wasn't stolen, it was knocked off. Yeah, it's there. It's still there. So I'll send you the photo that you please click on the one Yeah, that one. Thank you. Can you make that one bigger? I See. Yeah, so all that got blown apart It's blown apart and it's the mass is still there a lot of it turned into dust and powder But the dirt the black pieces are further towards would be further toward me Can you tell us where we could find images of those the chart? into dust and powder, but the black pieces are further toward, would be further toward me.

Can you tell us where we could find images of those? The charred? I have some. Can you show them to Jamie or send them to Jamie? I'll send them to you right away, absolutely. You can't air-drive it because you're using foreign technology, not even. Yeah, we'll just download them and email them to you.

But we want to be able to do it now. They're on our Google Photo Drive right now. Could you just send it to him if we got you an email? We'll do it right now? Absolutely. Okay, Jamie him if you got you an email would do it right now absolutely Okay, Jamie. Will you give me email? We'll pause it for a second folks. We get these images Okay, so we left off with the burnt pyramid areas that look like they've been hit yeah He said so we we got the photographs from your wife. Mm-hmm, so let's take a look at them here. Yeah So this is a video. I had the videos because they were gonna give me screenshots from the videos so I figured we just look at the videos

instead. There's one that's kind of more zoomed in but yeah it's hard to get the idea of the coloration, the discoloration there from low resolution you know phone video. Do we have any other videos or is it just videos Jamie we have photos black areas on the stone if you rub them they get very black underneath okay also other piece that are smaller laying further out so there's charred areas that have been covered with dust and sand over time right exactly but if you brush it off you see a charred. You see those dark areas there? On those stones? Yeah. That's not the natural color of the stone. If you go back up. That's not the natural color at all. Those colors there and the geologist and the homegrown guide that we use in the

archaeologist also said that's not the normal coloration. They don't know what energetically happened here. Okay, so now I see it. I see it in that...stop right there. I see it in that stone right there as well. So charred and then over the thousands of years covered with dust and sand. Correct. But if you dust off the dust and sand, you see this charred surface. Right. Oh. Yeah, which is crazy.

Well, that does kind of make sense if a little chunk hit that. Yeah. And a bunch hit some other spots and that was just... a little chunk hit that and a bunch hit some other spots and that was just yeah and it also makes sense if you think about how an advanced civilization like that can just disappear what would what would have to be the the moment it just doesn't make any sense I know there's the burning of the Library of Alexandria where they lost a lot of the information but I think there might have been a book heist really yeah I think the burning of the Library of Alexandria

was a heist. The burning did happen, don't get me wrong, but that was just a distraction to steal the knowledge and that the majority of that knowledge ended up in the Vatican archives. The Vatican, I know what you're gonna say, the Vatican. That's what I believe. The Vatican is one of my favorites.

That's one of my favorites. I went there with my family a few years back and I was blown away and I highly recommend it to anybody that That gets to go to Rome. If you go to Rome, please go to the Vatican. It's stunning Yeah, it's stunning all the artwork they have and they also have an Egyptian obelisk Yes, right, which is crazy. And you know that obelisk that courtyard is the same courtyard as to to a con If you look at tootihuacan... You mean the dimensions?

Not the dimensions, but just the actual shape of that courtyard. It matches the courtyard of Teotihuacan. Really? Yeah, it's an incredible coincidence that they built it based on the Teotihuacan, where the Avenue of the Dead has those platforms, and then you have the Pyramid of the Sun on the right, and the Pyramid of the Moon straight ahead. That area resembles the courtyard of the Vatican. Wow. The Vatican is so insane. It really, I didn't know. I knew that it had a lot of art. I didn't know. It's outrageous.

When you go to St. Peter's Basilica, you're just like, what? I know. What did you do? Yeah, yeah. How much time did this take? This is so intricate and so incredible. I know. It's one of the most spectacular things I think I've ever seen in my life in terms of what human beings can do with ingenuity and time

and artisans and craftsmen and people that, artisans that just create the most insane ceiling you've ever seen in your life. So intricate, I mean, and perfect for a house of worship because you walk in there and you believe in God like immediately. Like, this is obviously a shrine to God. And the fact that they did it for so long, it took hundreds of years to make that place. It's incredible. It's so amazing. It lets you know that there's time periods where people would operate within a golden age in certain regions of the planet and have time to do that type of extensive art and craft and beauty, create that kind of beauty.

Right, and the only way you do that is when you've got your resources covered and your army strong. That's it. And that was Rome. Yep. I mean, that's what they were back then. They tried to take over the world. Yeah, and in the thing about What they're what they have is they don't have to kind of tell you

Yeah, like so if they do like there's archives that they have in Rome that haven't been searched like we're not they're not just opening Them up to everyone right that everyone could look in and see what they have So there's always been speculation that they have some wild shit written down in there. Yeah, some wild stuff. I mean, they're investigating aliens, you know. Right. I mean, one of the Pope's most recent astronomers, you know, they were talking about years ago, though. They were talking about years ago that they wanted to, the Pope wanted to baptize the first alien. Now, that's incredible. That's an incredible statement. That'd be like turning Michio Kaku into a Scientologist.

Right? It's like, that would be hilarious. I know. That would be hilarious. And then they built this telescope called Lucifer to look for alien life. That's not a good name. Yeah. You would think of anybody who would know better.

Right. The light bearers, you know, what Lucifer means supposedly, but yeah, they built the telescope named Lucifer, right? But the swastika used to be a sign of peace right? You can't really use it anymore. No, you can't use it. I know I know It's like things could be stolen forever. No one's rocking that Hitler mustache. That's a wrap It's over No one's getting called eight off. That's over. That's over No one's getting called Adolf. That's over. That's over

That they wrap I think they did they didn't want to you know cut that name loose But they utilize that name for that the naming of that and it's actually in America. I believe it's in Arizona really Yeah, no kidding Wow Lucifer telescope. Oh kooky. I know all the telescopes are fascinating But what's really the most interesting to me is that the James Webb and the information that's coming out about the birth of the cosmos and about how they're looking at these galaxies that seem too big that they form too quickly and that they're starting to re-examine the timeline of the Big Bang and that they're reconsidering whether or not they were correct with this 13 point what is it 9 or 7? 13.5 to 13.8 billion year number. Yeah, and they think these galaxies should not exist

in this, I was just watching a documentary on it yesterday, or a couple days ago, where they were getting into why this doesn't make sense and the size of these galaxies and they were two formed, and I believe it was 500 million years after the Big Bang. Right, right. So they're like, this doesn't make sense. Yeah, according to us now. According to us.

With our minds. Right. We're still trying to figure out what dark matter is. Right. Well, Terrence Howard, the concept of stars creating planets and the planets eventually getting to a goal of the lock zone and then eventually getting out and then this is how life propagates through the universe. It makes so much sense.

With our limited understanding of the cosmos and our adherence to very specific ideas of how it all was created and the resistance to things like even the James Webb telescope's discoveries, you realize that science, like everything else, when it's practiced by humans, humans fuck everything up. They use their ego, they use arrogance, they don't want to be corrected, they want their initial ideas to be correct. And then there's a lot of great scientists

that are just looking at it and going, this is amazing, let's keep doing this and let's get an even better telescope out there that maybe could see even further and maybe we'll have to reexamine what we think about the birth of the universe. Exactly, I mean it just keeps getting better, technology keeps getting better. I remember Hubble, when it came back with the two trillion sky book, two trillion galaxies is what it estimated exist within our known universe and then the web comes out and it's just showing this stuff in much more clarity and it's probably going to make discoveries that

are even going to surpass obviously Hubble in terms of the quantity of galaxies and it just keeps getting better and better. We're getting a bigger and better understanding of our place in the universe as a whole and some people are scared of that. This is why they don't want it to get out. They don't want the information to be put forth that's going to change the paradigm. But the paradigm is not to be afraid. The paradigm shift is about to be embrace. Embrace this new huge part of us that's connected directly to us.

We're part of it and it's part of us intrinsically, energetically. And I think people are just afraid of what they think is the unknown because it makes them feel small. When I hear all this stuff going on out there, it makes me feel bigger because I know that I'm I am part of it. Yeah, we are part of it. Yeah, we like to think as individuals. Right. You know, oh my god, I'm not important. The universe is infinite. Exactly. The universe is not just infinite. It's so infinite that the infinite nature of the universe might be a part of an atom. Right. In another infinite universe. That's the

fractal holographic universe. When you go fractals on things and you start thinking about it in that terms, you go, what? It's never ending. It's just this constant thing that's in you, in subatomic particles, and deeper than that, and then further out than that. It just never ends. Right. It goes both ways forever.

Yeah. You just go, oh boy. I know. It's hard to take yourself too seriously. It's, listen, it's hard because I think individuality, I think individuality is an illusion. We appear to be separate and individuals, but energetically we're really all the same entity, that same consciousness experiencing itself differently, subjectively through different bodies. Yes, different life experiences, different genetics, different

places in the world. Correct. Yeah, but we're all the same thing. Yeah, different life experiences, different genetics, different places in the world. Correct. Yeah, but we're all the same thing. Yeah. And, you know, that's the hardest thing for people to get in their head. Anyone that you run into is you living another life. Right. We're all the concept of me.

When you think about it, everyone has that same feeling of me. Everyone has me inside of them. There's just me with less information, more information, better brain, better this, better that, shittier this, shittier that. There's an infinite number of examples of it and then it probably exists everywhere in the cosmos and it's probably what facilitates change and growth is that there is this imbalance and if there is this constant struggle amongst human beings, that's probably what makes us constantly try to improve. It's just very disheartening to think that we improve

to the point where we can travel to other planets and have a war. I know. I know, we don't want that to happen. We don't want that to happen, but if it really did happen here, it just makes you think. Is that just what we do forever? And is this just when we have this utopian perspective

of being able to eliminate war on earth someday Which no one thinks is gonna happen and not with this current version of human beings right and then you think well if we we surpassed Earth if we passed out if we passed our Genes and our civilization out into the universe are we still gonna be behaving the same way right and if we were If I was an alien, I'd be like don't let those dudes in you know if we get to A point where we're us now, but 500 years from now with the same genes Same wacky ass crazy genes, but now we have time travel now We have interplanetary travels like that, and then we show up with nuclear bombs to give us all your titanium right you know

That's a problem yeah You know, I was like, fuck! You know, like, that's a problem. Yeah, that could be a problem. I would be really trying hard to stop us if I was from another planet. I think a lot of the suppression and oppression of technologies, potentially, this hypothesis could be that there's a hand in the background holding us back a little bit. It's quite possible. But then there's a theory like the Diana Pasesolka's books where they talk about these Disks that they have found in the recovery program that apparently does exist and they call them donations

They think that these things are kind of left here. Yeah, so that we can just go. Oh fiber optics What a great idea Velcro. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of these things that seem to like Transistor ships, right? Yeah, a lot of these things seem to have come very quickly after Roswell, which is interesting. That's a fact. I believe in the ARVs, alien reproduction vehicles. I believe that exactly is what's really going on with a lot of these UAPs. I think that a lot of them are ours. I believe that there's UFOs out there, but a lot of these objects that we see in the

sky are probably made by us by re-engineering existing alien technology. And so, but you know, it comes to the point, are we going to be able to advance as a civilization to get beyond war? And I just saw they released an AI fighter jet that went into a dogfight. Yes. Just a few weeks ago. Yeah, Mike Baker was on here showing us that. Right. It beats the it beats the human piloted planes 100% of the time Yeah, yeah, so that's a wrap that's Skynet Yeah, that's online

And then on top of that instead of just AI powered fighter jet you could develop a fighter jet that no longer has a person In it so you have to worry about g-forces right do wild shit. Yes. Yes exactly It is fully AI controlled vehicle, especially as these technologies scale up like I have a Tesla and my Tesla has auto drive and I can set in a destination like a restaurant. I like to go to press auto drive and navigation and it does Everything Wow it hits the blinkers. It stops at stop signs. It stops at red lights. It takes turns It changes lanes it moves around parked vehicles Wow it's fucking wild Yeah, and it's not done yet, and this does getting it does hit curbs or

It's curbs. I heard like we taking turns like for overpasses or underpasses man like a few people have curbed up Yeah, so keep your hands on the wheels kids. Yeah, but it's not there yet, but it's a lot better than what when I first got it I remember I was driving down Laurel Canyon and I was with my wife and we were I was playing around I was like I have like we're listening to Led Zeppelin And I'm like moving my hand around the steering wheel. I'm like look at this the cars driving itself This is crazy, but that was primitive back then I didn't totally trust it It was probably better than I thought it was but like every now and then it would do it would get a little wonky now It's smooth Wow now. It's you use it at all Jamie

Here and there I kind of almost forget sometimes where that's like oh, yeah, this car drives its fucking self I do it for a goof sometimes. Yes, just randomly. I've been doing a lot lately though. Yeah, it's Shockingly good well grandkids are gonna. That's all they're gonna know hundred percent. They won't have to drive at all Yeah, but right now like like people joke around about manual cars It's shockingly good. Well, our grandkids are gonna, that's all they're gonna know. 100%. They won't have to drive at all. Yeah, but right now, like people joke around about manual cars, that it's a good theft deterrent device. Have a manual transmission. Nobody knows how to drive that fucking thing.

This is hard. Yeah, well it used to be the only way you could get a car. That was it. I learned it by accident, you know, because I was in an emergency situation and I had to drive my friend's car, that was a manual. I had to learn within the distance between where I was to where I had to go

Oh, wow, cuz one of my kids had got hurt doing something and the only car veil was a manual. That was it Yeah, it's not hard I mean you could learn it quick But most people don't know how to do it The thing is like that's going away like they're they're now saying that the next version of Porsche is it's gonna be the last version They have with a manual transmission and all Yeah, all which is crazy Porsche, that was the one thing that people held onto, was that you could get that stick shift.

People loved that engagement of the car. But that's going to be the thing of the past. Everything's going to be automated, because your freedom to drive that, people are going to, you know, the communist nature, especially California, they'll do it first, probably. Your freedom to drive that is not worth, you know, the potential of you taking someone's life in an accident.

Right. You know? And this is... makes sense. That's part of the problem. It does make sense. You can see the argument. Oh yeah. It makes sense and that's where everything is going to go. I mean, there's going to be so many... I mean, drivers are going to disappear. Like, you know, chauffeurs and so forth. It's all going to go away. There's a lot of that in here. They cause traffic jams.

These wacky driverless cars. know they have them here, and they're not quite there yet But they're good enough to take people around which is crazy You know take me to Red Ash drives you to the restaurant drop it off. Bye. Thank you. Yeah all in an app Everything's done simple. Yeah, it's kind of nuts, and it's just the beginning I mean we didn't have any of this ten years ago No ten years in most time periods is not that big of a deal with technology. No. Technologically, rather.

Yeah. We're advancing fast. Well, CHAT GPT-5, when they release that, it's going to be as big a leap, if not bigger, than 3 to 4. And 3 to 4 was nuts. Yeah. I mean, in 100 years, we went from a horse buggy in carriage all the way to putting remote control cars on Mars.

So, we're moving at an extremely fast pace right now. And they just released this chat GPT and other robotics on humanity, which is great. It's gonna do a lot of good for us, but at the same time, if you're gonna replace somebody's job, you have to then take away their financial responsibilities. You can't expect them to still have the financial responsibilities and take away the job.

So that's gonna be the conundrum. I'm waiting to see how that's gonna pan out. How many of us are gonna stand up and say, look, wait a minute now. I'm a mother, I'm a single mother of three and I can't waitress anymore. So what's going to happen? Or even attorneys are at risk, nurses are at risk now. So what are you going to do? There's enough money in this country, just in this country alone, to if you did replace jobs, you make it so that whatever controls that industry has to give a certain percentage to ensure not just like a living wage, but a good wage.

Like where people live well and they don't have to think about it. But then you got to give people a purpose. Because you can't just have them laying around getting free money and not having a life because a lot of people their purpose is their job you know that's what they look forward to they get engaged with something they have a community there they have tasks that they do they succeed they go out to dinner and celebrate that's a big part of life for

people you can't just take that away so then how does that get replaced right I think it's video games I think they going to go into cyber world. When you look into the ancient texts, they had similar situations in these golden ages, but people spent time working for things like service to others, traveling, arts and crafts, exploring inner peace. So it's about teaching people new ways to define and develop their passions and how to explore those passions. Well, that would be a big yoga explosion across the country. That would be cool.

That would be great. Yeah, people get into fitness, martial arts, and just be able to do, but you have to do something. Right. If you become stagnant, you die. Yeah. And you still should have the ability to possibly work if you want to. Yeah.

Right. It shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Like You don't get this money unless, if everybody got like 200 grand a year, just imagine the entire country just gets a free 200 grand a year. You're never gonna have to worry about food. You're never gonna have to worry about a place to live. You're good.

You got $200,000 a year because everything's automated. Everything's done by the government. Then you're gonna have to find something. You're gonna have to find a purpose. It's gotta be a thing, whether it's art or writing or whatever it Better find something you're gonna go crazy Yeah, and then there's gonna be a percentage of our population that's active They're gonna be working out and there's gonna be a bunch of us that just fuck off and drink beer and play call of duty

Sit down yeah, I don't get hammered and fucking order pizza and never have to do anything. Yeah, living in a nice place. You don't have to worry about money ever. You could always buy a good laptop and you get together with your buddies and you all play games, but you better have something. Go bowling. You better have something. You better have something you like to do. Yeah. Yeah. You know, because that's where it's going though. But wouldn't that be better than work? Because for most people, like, you know, there's a great satisfaction working and accomplishing a hard day's work, and you know, you get your paycheck

and you feel like you've accomplished something, but wouldn't it be better if you just, all of your needs were met? Yeah. And we put an emphasis in our culture on creating and doing things that interest you and whether it's competition or whatever it is. But this would be financed essentially by this ability that you just get free money because robots

control everything. They have plenty of money. No more jobs. They don't have to pay a salary to these robots. Only repair costs and management costs obviously. So yeah, it would be great. The $200,000 that everybody gets, they're getting it anyway because they were gonna buy stuff from them. Exactly, exactly. It would be a wild change and shift in how human beings interact.

And if there was a way for us to channel that in a positive manner, it could ultimately be beneficial. And we could be looking back on these days where people are working at Wendy's and go, what the fuck was that about? Well, most people are working in jobs that they're not passionate about these jobs. And it's evident in their work, their effort

and their work ethics. Well, it's also evident in their success and their happiness. Like a guy like you who likes to do what you like. You enjoy this. You pursue this. You talk about this. You're very good at it. This is a great way to live.

And other people can find other similar things or different things that similarly excite them yeah and if we were under that new scenario of two hundred thousand a year whatever it was I would still do this of course you know so of course people will work it's like Star Trek they work for free on Star Trek you know it's just a TV series but they don't have a paycheck Kirk didn't get paid no they never got paid any money it was all for free communists they were trying to come and it's all for free but they don't have a paycheck. Kirk didn't get paid? No, they never got paid any money. It was all for free. Communists, they were trying to spend some of the communists. It's all for free.

But they did it because they were passionate about it and they believed in it so much. And so there's things that people can still do if they're passionate about those things. And it's just work, but you don't ask for a paycheck. Right. If there was a base paycheck for the whole country, just a base paycheck, based on, I wonder if 200 grand is even

possible, what is $200,000 times three hundred and thirty three million check that out Jamie what only only 190 million are adults 190 million adults right that's right let's just make let's be generous let's make it 200 million adults yeah so 200 million times 200,000 is what? Two times two is four add all the zeros from the 200,000 on to the 4 million right? What is that in like the word? Is it trillions 200,000 times 200 million. So six zeros, six zeros is a billion, nine zeros is no, six

zeros a million, nine zeros is a trillion, a billion. It's giving me four e thirteen, so it's for 13 zeros 13 zeros for 13 4 times 13 zeros it's a lot of money folks yeah gonna have to drain these oligarchs well what was the what was the numbers 200,000 times 200 million 40 billion that doesn't sound right. That is going to be 40 billion or 400 billion. It's a 40 billion dollars. 40 billion that's it. That's reasonable. That's reasonable.

That's so reasonable. That's so reasonable. That's less than the military industrial complex budget for the year. 100%. Imagine that folks. I just want you to think about that. We could give 200 hundred million people two hundred thousand dollars a year that's a good amount of money yeah two hundred

thousand dollars is nice you can live in a nice house go on vacation and eat well two hundred thousand dollars yeah not bad at all not bad at all and if you did that you could also still work you could also still make money but everybody if we just elevated every adult in this country to that that amount of money Yeah, it will be keep talking communist now. No, I'm talking Everything's gonna be automated folks and there should be some sort of a tax on the result that this has on society particularly when if everything is automated the people who run the automation and the they're going to be making the people who run the automation and the they're going to be making staggering amounts of money.

So if a tax of $40 billion a year to keep everybody happy, keep everybody from going fucking crazy, I mean, that might be it sounds crazy. Because it goes against human instincts, right? Like human nature goes against our program. We've been programmed to believe it's correct. Is that because we were designed to mine for gold? That's right. Designed to work hard, right? Designed to work hard, man. Because it's kind of in our head that we have to work hard. Listen, we're so programmed to believe what happened in ancient times that we believe the government is in control of us when we're in the control of the government. Right. We allow them to tell us what to do and we should be telling them what to do and what we want, but we sit back and allow them to put

rules in place, laws on us, and even lock us up and do things to us. And there's nothing we can do about it, but people think there's nothing we can do. There is something we can do. We've given up our power. We've relinquished our power to an outside source because of divide and conquer. It allows it to work. Once we realize that divide and conquer is just a distraction that we should coordinate together and organize, then we can take back control of this planet. Yeah and

this this idea of the government being in control of you is literally how it works with every single country in the world. It's just a natural course of human nature that the people in power want more power. Yeah. You know when you're selling skateboards you want to sell more skateboards next year. You know when you're in power you don't you won't you don't want to relinquish some of your power Make it better on the people no you want clamp down that power more We had to get on Facebook and stop these people from tweeting about things or posting about things Yeah, you know we have to this has become a problem

Let's put pressure on this company to censor certain voices on YouTube exact and that's the shit that happens That's really what happens, because they're not acting in the best interests of humanity. They're acting in their best interests, which is what every industry does when it's just trying to make money. Exactly. Well, the United States is a company.

It's a corporation. Right. And so they're acting like a corporation. That's the reality of it. I agree with you, too, about this UAP thing, UFO, UAP. Just many people have said this, but I'll repeat it, that there's something about them doing it always near where military bases are too that's super suspicious. Come on.

I mean, listen, to me, what's going to happen or what potentially could happen, another Gulf of Tonkin incident. The incident that created the Vietnamese war, they lied about an attack at the Gulf of Tonkin to create the Vietnamese war. Yeah, exactly. So all of a sudden you see one of these UAPs. They're gonna call it one of these not ours We don't know whose it is and then it attacks a Navy vessel Yeah, and now they've got the right to say we need 10 trillion dollars a year Whatever the number is to create these these after Iran. Yeah, right, whatever and yeah something generates more money Yeah

So, you know could this be why the formation of the Space Force is here so they can find a way to Channel money into something else where these private corporations can create these black budget projects that we have we've approved because we're afraid We're gonna be attacked by aliens now And then they take that money and they develop these projects that never see the light of day and they all chop up the money Behind the scenes yeah, that's the reality of the world we live in folks and if you're clinging on to this left versus right, these are these culture war arguments, you are getting caught up in their bullshit game. Most people want the same thing. They want to be healthy, they want their family to be healthy and happy, they want

to have a pursuit that they enjoy, they want to enjoy their community, enjoy their loved ones. That's what most people want. Most people want the same thing. Most of the shit that you're seeing has all been stirred up by foreign governments and special interest groups and a bunch of shit. And if you're online, they're spoon feeding it to you. If you're online and you're engaging on social media, they're shoving that down your throat every day. They're gaslighting every day.

Gaslighting you every day. And it's more and more obvious now than it's ever been before, because people at least are aware of it. They know what's going on, but it's shocking how much of it is going on. And it's allowing us to fight with each other while all this shit is going on behind the scenes

and all these hundreds of billions of dollars. I mean, we talked about $40 billion a year. What is the amount of money we spent so far in Ukraine? going on behind the scenes and all these hundreds of billions of dollars. I mean, we talked about $40 billion a year. What is the amount of money we spent so far in Ukraine? They continue to raise it, right? They just approved a new batch of money that's headed over there. It's insane amounts of money. Numbers are incredible.

And we have infrastructure falling apart here. I just came from LA a few weeks ago. People on the streets of LA Okay, you know so Congress passed five bills appropriating 175 billion in response to Russia's February 22 evasion of Ukraine. So this is a May 9th of 2024 Which is pretty the most recent so 175 billion that that could have solved all Poverty in America literally solved poverty. Yeah, which is wild

Yeah, what's if it's if poverty and crime are our number one problem in this country, which I would I would say they are Yeah, that would solve our number one problem. I'm is this a side effect 100% of the poverty Yes The crime is a side effect of the poverty. And you know, I always said this, if Hal Burton can get these no-bid contracts to clean up Iraq after we bomb it, and it's for profit, so they make a lot of money doing that, how about a no-bid contract to clean up terrible neighborhoods? No-bid contract rather to develop community programs, and they'll be funded through the state, you'll make a ton of money, you you can do this and also you'll have a ripple effect

You'll have a less crime You'll have more people that are out there in the workforce yet more people that are being productive more people that are inventing things and creating music and culture and art and Yeah, all kinds of other things that people like to do when they're not getting locked up in fucking jail exactly And then you just have to figure out a way to get off the grip of the military or the rather prison industrial complex which has a vested interest in keeping people locked up because that's what the the idea that we let that happen we let it be profitable to put people in fucking jail and then we let let the prison guards actively campaign to make sure that certain laws

stay in place so the people keep getting locked up for nonviolent crimes you know yeah 40% of people that are locked up in place so that people keep getting locked up for nonviolent crimes? Yeah. Yeah, 40% of the people that are locked up in America are locked up on victimless crimes. Yeah. They only hurt themselves. It's so nuts. Yeah. And the amount of money that's generated by private prisons, that should be zero.

It should be zero dollars. Right. There should be no incentive to put people in a cage. Yeah, you can't have capitalism in everything. Capitalism has to be broken into pieces. You can't have it in medicine, health care, prison systems. Imagine if that was the way with the fire department. Imagine if you had to pay to get your house put out. That's one thing that we exist that we rather accept, universally, that we

pay for. It's a socialist idea. The fire department is paid for by the state and we need fire department people, we need everybody well-trained and all the equipment to be working perfectly. We all agree to that. Why? Because it's a real dilemma. Yeah, it makes sense. It's logic. So's poverty. Yeah. So's crime. And mental health. And mental health. Yeah. And people on the street are mentally ill. And giving kids guidance. Having community programs and having education programs and giving people like an avenue Where they can get out from where they are and see a path to success so they don't feel despair

Yeah They have a possibility and show and have it be run by people have already made it through I say I can help you just like you could teach someone how to play piano Yeah, I could teach someone to do karate. You can teach people how to live life. That's right Yeah, and and it costs a lot less play piano, or you could teach someone to do karate. You could teach people how to live life. That's right. Yeah, and it costs a lot less than what it's costing in Ukraine, and how much would it benefit our economy? How much would it benefit our culture, our society?

How much more would get done if there was less crime? A lot more. And then those people, instead of being criminals, now they're contributors. Yeah. There's enough for everybody. And the civilization grows the way it should grow. Yes, the way it should grow. The problem is it's been captured. It's been captured by elites that want to keep draining money.

And they keep draining money and using it for their own needs and their own means. And it's terrifying. That's why I call it polytricks. Mmm. Polytricks. That's what it's called. We made a pretty bad math error. Ah! Okay, what we got? Oh, $40 trillion. $40 trillion. Thank you, sir. That's much more of an issue. tricks that's what it's called Ladies and gentlemen I retrain my fucked we're never gonna have enough money to fix this problem. I forgot what I said What is that? Yeah, but that's a problem to the exact inflation inflation. What's our GDP?

For boy this big denture 40 trillion 40 billion how many people are yelling at the computer I work backwards one of the things it did says eight hundred seventy five dollars like wait that is not enough to get everybody that's hilarious GDP increased in 2020 to twenty seven point three six trillion that's our GDP every year yeah oh so we don't even have enough money because it would take short double our GDP that's the 200k if you want to go to yeah Yeah, well you have to give people and it's only 200 million people's not even everybody right that's wow for a fourth So we're fucked back to we're fucked Just cut it down cut it in half you could do it if people have you do it Yeah, even then if you have it like 80 about 80000, and then let people work to earn their own money

and other things. Yeah, 200 grand was a little lofty. OK, so if it was $40 trillion, you could get it down to $15 trillion. That's still most of the money we make. That's still a lot. It's going to increase, though, significantly in the next 10 years because of the AI.

Right. All the chips and robots. When a company can lay off like Amazon lay off a thousand people and replace them with a thousand robots right their profit but their profit margin goes up significantly within the first eight to ten years yeah what if anything is being done to provide a safety net because you can't give people 200 bucks a week right you know whatever it is it's got to be a significant amount of money to actually get by. Whatever that number is, whatever we decide that number is. The number could be less if things are

covered. If AI becomes so efficient at creating power, we have it in our head that power must be paid for. But if AI becomes so efficient and eliminates jobs, that we decide that we're going to Nationalize all of our power and then we'll look at power the same way we look at the fire department right and we'll be set it up As a socialist power system Which is not the worst idea in the world if you consider that most power is being generated by the use of natural resources Which really belong to the earth and like that? Individuals are pulling these out and profiting from them wildly especially when they're doing like offshore oil drills like who owns that spot yeah how are you able to just suck all that oil and make billions of dollars out of the

ground that we all live on like it seems like that should be everybody's right but then you lose the incentive for profit that allows you to go drip digging you lose incentive yeah I think that everything is gonna move, not everything, but a lot of power is gonna move towards hydrogen. That's the big new push. The Navy has vessels now that run off of hydrogen, so they never have to go refuel. Do you know that Bob Lazar made a hydrogen Corvette in like 1990? Wow, incredible. That's psycho. Yeah, wow. Yeah, I mean He was such a freak. Wow. He is such a freak, but Bob, I love that dude. I'm fascinated by him, and I don't know if he's telling the truth, but boy I hope he does he is but you know one of the crazy stories about him was in the Los Alamos labs days

When he was living there in New Mexico he developed a rocket-powered Honda So he put a jet engine on a fucking Honda Lot of time on his hands there. Well he's just a genius. He's an absolute genius. Look he talked about element 115 before we discovered element 115. Yes. So that's what sold me on him. Well he also has never really varied from his story. Yeah. And to tell a story for more than 30 years and tell the exact same story is pretty strange. Yeah. And also didn't really profit off of it. No. It's not like a thing that he's like selling Bob Lazar t-shirts

And you know Bob Lazar was right baseball hats and constantly going on podcasts. No, he did my podcast. Yeah Yeah, I don't even know if he's done another one. I don't know. I know you got you know a lot of hell for it Yeah, you know and I'll try to get him back on again, but he's he's working on it Well during the Jeremy Corbell documentary the the FBI rated him, which is insane. It's insane. And he thinks that they believe that he has a stable version of element 115, that he has a sample of it somewhere. Wow. Yeah. And so they went, he thinks that's what they went looking for.

They'd love to get their hands on that because the decay rate's so fast. Well, the video that George Knapp had, there's a video that George Knapp had from a long time ago where he was demonstrating with George Knapp how this element when bombarded with radioactivity could distort gravity and he showed some he had some experiment that they did that we could show with light and I don't exactly remember what the parameters of the experiment were but that thing is one of the things that convinced George Knapp that maybe he's telling the truth, that this whole thing is crazy.

And then when you see like these images where it shows these crafts behaving as he described, that this gravity projection generator of whatever it is, this gravity generator, whatever this thing is, whatever the, they weren't exactly sure how to, because they, at least back then in 89, but that you would turn towards where you wanted to go sideways And that's how it would travel Wow and they saw these videos of these crafts doing that rotating Yeah, same thing by fighter jets So fighter jets are locked in on them with these high speed sensors and they're they're locking in on the and there's like a video Where they go finally I got it locked in right and they're they're Like look at it go yeah, I heard that yeah

Yeah You can find that video because that video is one of my favorites because the the pilots are so Genuinely excited about this when they finally lock it in I think that's the go fast go fast they go fast walker and They're like oh, we got it. We got it locked in like what the fuck is this thing? Have you heard have you researched any of the Vamanas from the ancient text? Yes? Yeah, that's very very fascinating because they in the Bhagavad Gita in in What is this the one? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, this is it and In the Mahabharata they they talk about these flying crafts. What is this?

Which about to here is actually US fighter pilots. Powerful Raytheon. Display pod display. How come I'm not hearing any voices? Oh, there it goes. Yeah, there it goes. Oh, there's just explaining how the display works, this Raytheon display, and how these fighter jets are using this to try to lock in on this thing. So look how it zooms in. They see it pass by.

It's going so fast they're trying to lock in on it, but they're having a hard time. So they keep adjusting, and they're trying to get their sensors. Boom. So they got it. Yeah. Now they got it. Yeah. Now they're excited. Yeah. What the fuck is that?

What is that? Like what the fuck is that? That's right, it's wild man. What is that? Like what the fuck is that? It's wild man. Like I said, I just see these things and I go back to the Vamanas. They ran on a ferrofluid vortex engine. That's how it was described? Yeah, ferrofluid. So they had liquid mercury.

Ferrofluid? Ferrofluid, which is liquid metal. And so they put liquid metal inside of them. How do you spell that? F-E-R-R-O. Ferro. we used to have a ferrofluid lamp yeah really remember about that one thing you like put a magnet on it and oh yeah where is that is that in storage so these are fair so you put if you take a Taurus we need a new one Jamie course anyone if you take a Taurus and you put a ferrofluid like mercury inside

of it and you magnetize the torus in a way that creates this rotation, this RPM of the mercury moving around that field, and you get it up to about 60,000 RPMs, and then you actually pressurize the torus to about 250,000 atmospheres, and you electrify it, you get anti-gravity properties. What? Yeah.

Whoa. So you can create a anti-gravity properties. What? Yeah. So you can create a anti-gravity flying device utilizing that technique and this is really, you know, well known. And how do they describe it in the text? In the text they talk about the fact that it uses mercury in a rotating disk. Really? Yeah, and then they have some of the, you know, the flight plans and some of the layout of actually the plans of the actual ship itself one of the ships and so from that you can almost hypothesize a backward engineer what it might have been able to do and in the text it says they used to take a complement of men to many worlds so this is incredible technology a complement of men to many worlds yeah wow yeah so do you think

that the government has access to something similar to that? Oh, I believe so. One thousand percent. I believe they've been backwards engineering information from ancient texts and of course any artifacts that they found from anywhere in the world. They might have even gotten information from Saddam Hussein's museum because that's the first place we went in the Gulf after the whole situation happened with you know wanting to go take him out of power and kill him they went straight to the museum. So this Jimmy just pulled this up it says flying with ferrofluids to solve this problem L. Brad King, Ron and Elaine Starr, professor in space systems at Michigan Tech is creating a new kind of micro thruster that assembles itself out

of its own propellant when excited by a magnetic field. The tiny thruster requires no fragile needles and is essentially indestructible. We're working with unique material called ionic fluid ferrofluid, King says, explaining that it's both magnetic and ionic, a liquid salt. When we put a magnet underneath a small pool of ferrofluid, it turns into a beautiful hedgehog structure of aligned peaks. When we apply a strong electric field to that array of peaks, each one emits an individual microjet of ions. Whoa.

Exactly. You have to electrify it. Once you electrify it, you create this electromagnetic activity. This is what it looks like in... Yeah, that's just on two screws. I think it's just transferring itself. Yeah, just giving you how it transfers itself Wow and so you could use that as something that could propel a device yes Absolutely Wow and you don't get to reduce the gravity the weight of an object to zero

But you significantly reduce the weight of an object and the fact that they figure this out and that it's in is it in Mahabharata or the Bhagavad Gita? And the Mahabharata. Wow. And it also I think was one account in the Vedas. What is the definition, what's the explanation for how they figured that out? Like help me out. They say they have flying cities. They say they have flying cities and these cities would go to battle sometimes against each other in the sky. Oh my god. Yeah So you talked about massive objects flying around? Right, and how do they explain that away? That's what I want to know How do you explain that away? How do you explain somebody thousands of years ago sitting down to write a sci-fi epic?

Well, not not just that but writing about a process. Oh, yeah of Creating this field that now has been documented all these thousands of years later. It works now. Like how did you figure that out? What were you guys doing? This happens over and over again in text. In the Enable Tab, it's just a book I wrote, both talks about using cymatic frequencies and light waves to create manifest solid matter. And what happened about four years ago in a laboratory, they used cymatic frequencies and photons to create solid matter out of nothing.

Just happened about four years ago. What did they create? They just create a few particles, you know. But the fact that we can do it, but it was already in ancient text. Wow. So now we can do it on a very small scale. Very small scale.

Just like we can create element 115 with a collider. Correct. Same kind of thing. Same thing. And it's a very small, unstable like we can create element 115 with a collider. Correct. Same kind of thing. It's a very small unstable version of element 115 that only exists for a fraction of a second but they can measure it. Right. So but if with sufficiently advanced technology you could create it and then form a stable version of that. Right. Imagine being able to build an entire city by manifesting the matter needed to build the city instead of harvesting the city from rock. 3D print the city with nanobots.

You would use nanobots to build the whole city. It would manifest as it went. And you could also use that to repair things. Absolutely. So you would never have to have construction again. Everything would be self-repairable. Correct. Correct.

Wow. Yeah. Well, of course. If you just scale up, just think about what we can do now and keep going. Make it much better and much more efficient. We're talking about programmable matter now. Programmable matter. And what you were saying about DNA,

the fact that you can encode into DNA, and that you could actually hold information in DNA. Yeah. Microsoft has created the very first DNA hard drive. So it's a molecular hard drive that works on technology that's hardware and also biological software. And so a device, a hard drive the size of my cell phone can store an enormous amount of petabytes of data. So things like teleportation are going

to be possible in the near future. So things like teleportation are gonna be possible in the near future. We've already teleported, I think, a couple of particles from Earth to the space station, right? But what's stopping us from teleporting a human being? Understanding and knowing the location of every atom and the rotation and spiraling of every atom. That's a lot of information, a lot of storage space.

Now with DNA hard drives, the storage space problem goes away. We'll be able to teleport biological beings or objects, big objects, into space or wherever we want on the planet. Like Star Trek. Like Star Trek. Who's going to be the first guy to get beamed up? Somebody's going to be a real guinea pig for that one.

Yeah, we're going to have to find some pedophile. Because when you teleport, you die. I don't know if people know that. Oh. Yeah. Well, that's a bit of an issue. Teleport. You're reborn again instantly in the other location,

but it's a facsimile of you. Anytime you teleport, even the molecules that we teleport now, the original version, the original molecule or the starting matter, it's destroyed. And the data is then transmitted, and then it's reformulated. So a teleportation is actually the death of you and the reformation of you.

Maybe they could do a better job, like an Instagram filter. You know? You know? Maybe you could just, like, tone a few things up, clean up a little bit. Get rid of some scars or whatever. Get rid of some body fat. Right, right. Maybe they can make a better version of you.

But you have to be willing to die. Yeah. Yeah, but maybe that's hell. Maybe you come back and you have no soul. Maybe when you teleport, your soul doesn better version of you. But you have to be willing to die. Yeah, but maybe that's hell. Maybe you come back and you have no soul. Maybe when you teleport, your soul doesn't go with you. Well, they're transmitting your consciousness. So everything is saved.

All your information is saved. And we know that was done also in ancient times. Thoth talks in the Emerald Talbots about being able to go into these halls of Amenti where he had rejuvenation chambers, which is what I believe is the Serapium in Saqqara. And he would go into these gigantic stone boxes and he would then transfer his consciousness from his body into another body. And he would leave the body that he left inside of one of those gigantic boxes, one of those gigantic diorite stone boxes for

100 years while it recharged itself and rejuvenated. While he said he walks amongst men but unlike a man. What? Yeah. And he would do this for eons. He would transfer from body to body, not bodies he stole, bodies he created that he didn't create it himself through probably some advanced form of stem cell technology. And he would walk amongst men but unlike a man.

And he was known all around the planet because of this. The guy lived for, according to the ancient Egyptians, he ruled over them for 16,000 years, one person. What? Yeah. Yeah. So is this those ancient texts, like the ancient hieroglyphs that show kings going back like 30,000 years? Well, that's the Sumerian kings list located in the Oshmerli Museum in Oxford, England. I was there myself in person to check out this stonework. And it's an incredible tablet that talks about the reigns of kings. Some kings ruled for 28,800 years, 14,000 years. I mean, 20,000. If the numbers are insane. These are not Egyptian? This is... No, not Egyptian. These are Anunnaki. This is pre-flood. This is anti-deluvial. And then when the flood comes, it talks about and then the flood swept over the land. After the flood happens, then they descend kingship

from heaven back down to humans, and then the reigns of humans begin, or they're not really full humans, they're demigods, they're half human, half Anunnaki. And then their lifespans are like, you know, much shorter because their ruling times are only like a thousand years and 800 years and 700 years and it starts to go down, down, down, down. Which is why like Noah was 600 years old. Right, exactly. So this, these tablets, what are they called again?

You're talking about the Sumerian, Sumerian King's List. Can you show me that Jamie? Yeah. I want to see what that looks like. It's a giant four-sided tablet located in the Oshmerling Museum in Oxford, England. Yeah. And so what exactly does it say? Like it gives you the... This is it right here? That's it right there. Those are all four sides. And how old is this? Oh this is you know they're saying six thousand. But make it bigger Jamie? Believe me it's much older than that. I

just want to look at it. Yeah. Man. This is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy over tens of thousands of years, in my opinion. But this text gives the reigns of kings in Shars, S-H-A-R. A Shar is 3,600 years. So one Shar would be 3,600 years.

So 241,000 years of rule. Whoa. On that stone right there. The Sumerian Kings list. Now if this is right, if this is all true, what a mind-blowing idea that humans have been around, that we're engineered hundreds of thousands of years ago, and that this is the reason why there's this bizarre shift between lower primates and us, which you don't see in any other animal. There's nothing like it. There's nothing like us.

Look, we have 46 chromosomes, right? Right. Chimpanzees have 48. Exactly. They discovered that chromosome number 2 was taken out, they call it an artificial mutation. They mean geneticists. Fused together and two telomere caps put on, one telomere cap on each side. Who in the world took chromosome number two out, fused it together and put telomere caps on it?

They say that it happened an estimated 200,000 years ago. Right at the time that Sumerians have a say, they decided to make mankind to do the labor. There's no coincidence that the tablets are aligning with modern science. And this means that, a couple things. The first thing it means that we were genetically modified. The second thing that it means is,

the telomere caps limit our lifespan to about 120 years max, according to Harvard scientists. Now, in the Bible, what does it say? It says that my seed shall not abide in man forever, his year shall be 120. That was taken from the Sumerian tablets, even further back than that. Thousands of years before the Bible was written, when Yahweh, aka Enlil, shows back up, sees the human beings building a tower into the heavens,

copying a tower that they themselves had built, it pissed them off. And he said, whatever their hearts decide to do, they shall achieve it. My seed shall not abide a man, his years will be 120. And then he did a genetic modification at that point, I believe, with the telomeres. And he spread mankind out around the planet, and he confused their languages.

He had us speaking different languages, so we couldn't collaborate. Now we're in competition, no collaboration. Divide and conquer. And this is the Tower of Battle. That's it, that's it, man. So it was all done just to keep us from rising. Yes, we were advancing too fast,

and he had to slow us down. If we shorten their lifespan, then they won't have enough time. By the time they realize who they are and what power they have, they'll be dead. And see, that's what's happened to us. So if the Anunnaki are real and Nibiru is real, and Nibiru is on an elliptical cycle that comes between, it's like Mars and Jupiter, right?

Somewhere around there? Well, it's further out now. Over time, its orbit has been pushed out. And that's just one planet that these Anunnaki people come from. They come from many planets. But do you think that this planet, Nibiru, that's on an elliptical orbit, if it's coming every 3,600 years, wouldn't there be some sort of documentation 3,600 years ago, at the very least? Well, you have to look for geological disasters as marker points. This object, this Nibiru planet, which is

mentioned by the way in the Enuma Elisha, it's not a fabricated name, just so people know it's a real name, in the Enuma Elish, the oldest version of the Enuma Elish, it says Nibiru as one of the planets. But you look at the timeframe when this thing gets close. It orbits another planet, another star. So it orbits a brown dwarf star. This brown dwarf star has the same amount of mass as our sun, but it's much smaller, right?

But it generates enough heat through friction and or its orbiting planets. You can see it in two-mass infrared mode coming out of the constellation of Leo if you go to a worldwide telescope and download the software and all of that. But the fact that modern science now admit that there's an object out there that they say orbit our Sun every 4200 years, right? And That's Corey Powell from Discovery Magazine. He's a real astronomer. He's been on Fox News. He said that on Fox News. If I can find the clip, I'll send it to you, matter of fact. And so... We'll find it. Yeah, we'll find it. Yeah, Fox News, Corey Powell. And so what's happening is we are

seeing evidence that there is something out there that's orbiting our sun and that our sun is a binary star system. So we used to think that our sun, one sun in the solar system is normal, but as they looked out into space with Hubble and now the web, they discovered, no, binary is more of the normal and even trinary. And so it's like, wait a minute, if binary is normal,

they started looking for this object that gravitationally should exist and they believe that it's like, wait a minute, if binary is normal, they started looking for this object that gravitationally should exist, and they believe that it's out there far beyond the orbit of Pluto, and that Corey Powell says, our solar system exists within our solar system. And he goes on to say, we come from there, on Fox News, which is just crazy.

So the idea, if you follow Terrence Howard's theory, is that matter comes from the Sun it moves away coalesces into planets it gets to a Goldilocks zone life comes out of that life becomes far more intelligent as time goes on develops more capabilities and then is also assisted by other beings that have been through this process already you know and then if this scales out for hundreds of millions of years, you get to a point where this Nibiru is, or billions of years, or whatever it takes for it

to get all the way the fuck out. Well, I estimate that they're about a million years ahead of us technologically. Now, it could be- And then there's things that are millions of years ahead of them. Oh, way ahead of them. There's things that are far, far ahead of them.

Which is, this is what's hard for us to scale out. We like to think that aliens are flying spaceships, that's the top of the food chain. Right. But not even close. Yeah. Like I was saying before, I never got to it. Really, there's three types of beings I think that exist. One is the physical corporeal being that could be what we see flying around in these UFOs,

not all of them, some of them, that visit us, that interact with us in the ancient past. Not all are little green men, but they have various different body types. The second kind that I believe is potentially multi-dimensional beings, that there's life in every different dimension. And you know, Michio Kaku was famous for saying that the universe, they believe, has 11 dimensions. So that's 11 dimensions. We're only in the third.

There's fourth, fifth, sixth, all the way up to 11 at least, or the universe, he says, would collapse. So if you're a being in a higher dimension, you can see the past, present, and future all at once in the third. If you say, that's an interesting place, I'd like to visit it, if you can actually create a phase shift in your atomic frequency to match the atomic frequency of this dimension, you can walk right in, and then you can walk right back. And then you probably have something else that's outside of this entire universe

that has a capability, maybe it is the creators of the universe itself, which is why I wrote the book, Fractal Holographic Universe. Maybe there's a creator or creator outside of this entire universe that has a hand in creating this ancestral universe itself. Well, it also makes sense that if you scaled intelligent life up infinitely, you're going

to reach a point where you have god-like powers. This being or collection of beings, this hive mind, whatever it is, it could essentially, if given a hundred million years, harness the very power of the universe itself or maybe even create the universe. Create other universes. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Which is the ultimate mind blower that intelligent life is the reason why this thing exists. That it

creates this thing. We're creating universes right now as human beings on this planet. 14 college kids created a video game called No Man's Sky. No Man's Sky is on one DVD disc and it has 80 quadrillion planets and unlimited life forms and the game never ends We've talked about that right yeah, that one's a weird one Yeah, you put but you put AI in it right and what's gonna right scale up to a quantum computer now all of a sudden We're gonna have a virtual reality headset boom yeah the people when they're who are we where are we from? What is the big bang when we turn to Collins alone? That's the big bang for you?

Yeah, sims the sim Sims are gonna get AI now. They're gonna be asking questions. They're gonna be creating their own software within the software and trying to build their own copy of a universe. We're not even close to base reality. We're literally living in a stacked reality. We're just one reality out of, who knows,

Googles of actual realities that exist. Do you think the simulation theory has weight? Oh, I believe so. I just, I wrote a book about it. That book is about the fractal holographic universe and I believe that we're living in a simulation. Is that one of these books? You got a stack of them here.

No, I just- How many books have you read? A written rather. Four, the one just came out today, the Fractal Holographic Universe, this is the Emerald Tablets, the Epic of Humanity and my financial book, Woke Doesn't Mean Broke, Financial Literacy Book. Not the political woke either, the real woke. When did you start going down this road of exploring all these

interesting subjects? Well, it was a long time ago, 1977 in Miami, Florida. We moved from New York to Miami next to the Opalaka Airport, living in the hood. I used to go out in the backyard, you know how it is back then, no cable TV, no cell phones, no tablets. You just go outside and play. So I'm outside in the backyard playing, but I'm looking at the airplanes go over. And this one day, this plane goes over, but it's not really a plane.

It clears the horizon in seconds, not minutes. It just goes straight across. I know from as a little kid, the planes take a long time to go from one point to the other. And it went straight across. I know from as a little kid the planes take a long time to go from one point to the other and it went straight across and it was more like not a full size of not not cigar but not an egg kind of in between the two glowing a tic-tac almost like a tic-tac glowing metal yes and then it came back

and it stopped right over me completely silent about now I can estimate about 250 meters and then it just went, gone. And I ran in the house and I told my mom, I told her, hey, I can't believe what I just saw. And my mom said to me, son, back in the day, there were advanced beings that came to this planet. This is 1977. Your mom doing this?

Yeah. That's why I dedicated the book to her. And she said they used to live on tops of mountains like in Peru and Machu Picchu, which is why one of the greatest places I ever went, I had to go there. And so I went to the library at Rainbow Park Elementary the next morning and I told the teacher I have to go to the library inside the school, Rainbow Park, and I said I need to get all the encyclopedias on space, on aerospace, and she gave me the

encyclopedias on aerospace and that's when I started researching from that exact moment. Wow. And I haven't stopped since. So you were, how old? Eight? Seven. Seven years old. Oh my god. You just got locked in. I got locked in. I started researching swept wing, delta wing, ballistics, intercontinental ballistics. I'm looking at submarines. I'm looking at hovercraft that existed way back then, flying this that we had created in the military way back then. You know, SR-71s and all this stuff. And I'm trying to figure out what the hell did I see, and I couldn't find it. But it took me down the path of technologies and advanced technologies and aerospace information, and I kind of became a quasi-aerospace historian, and that led me in further on down the line

to studying architecture and seeing a connection between the two. And you studied at both Harvard and MIT? Harvard was for ancient civilizations. I took a class and got a certificate in ancient civilizations. And at MIT, I took a class in applied neuroscience and got a certificate in applied neuroscience. And are you just doing this for your own edification,

just because you're interested in it? Yeah, yeah. Right now, I'm enrolled again at MIT right now for a class in AI. And when you first got down this road, we're talking about a time where there's no internet and there's no You're just like trying to make sense of some things just trying to make sense man And this one have you ever seen anything since then? Yeah. Yeah, actually Eddie said he ranch in

2017 I believe it was We were out there. I was out to do speak at this ranch in Washington State And it's down from the from the basin of Mount Shasta in that area. It's called the SETI Ranch? E-SETI. Oh, okay. Yeah, E-SETI, E-C-E-T-I. It's like a private kingdom in America, actually.

It's a private, they've got registered as a small kingdom. They don't even have mail or anything there. It's a weird place. I had to stay in a yurt. It's really crazy out there. But I spoke there for a whole week. I had to get used to it because nobody told me about this before I got there You had to stay in a yurt for a week stay in a yurt for a week. Did they have running water?

At the community bathroom. Oh boy Ascetti yeah Enlighten contact with extraterrestrial Intelligence oh boy, so they're just out there with no technology trying to talk to aliens No, no just out there every night sky watching basically. Really? And the video that we recorded. Does that sound like rich crazy person's idea? Yeah.

I love it. The video that we created that night, watching those UFOs in the sky, actually made it onto an episode that I made on ancient aliens. Oh. Yeah. That show's the best show to get high to. Yeah.

You ever see Action Bronson's show where he would watch ancient aliens and they would just get stoned and watch watch Ancient Aliens that shows crazy, but yeah, so we recorded some crazy footage in disguise there What did you see well they were giant discs flying around some were changing colors video footage? It's on this on the episode. I sent it to ancient aliens And you know see if you can find that it's James Gilliland the guy who owns the ranch a licensed it licensed it and approved Ancient but if you go to East Eddie ranch videos, you could probably find one right on YouTube right now.

Wow. Yeah, it was incredible. So these folks are just out there trying to make contact? Not trying to make contact, just watching. Just watching. Just like in amazement. There's no contact attempt there. And why?

Yeah, there you go. That's it. I was there that night that video I was standing there that night and you know there was a lot of activity that night there's some crazy stuff going on and what does this thing look like the naked eye we're seeing very blurry looks like zoomed in footage yeah what year is this from this is probably 18 there you go you're now 18 Samsung Galaxy We didn't have that one back then But from the naked eye, it looks like these giant glowing balls moving around. Sometimes they expand and get they change colors

Sometimes they descend right down by Mount Shasta and then they you can see their lighting in the tree line And then they would go back up into space again It was just crazy stuff. Have you seen that ball lightning that they get in Texas that comes out of the mountains? No, I saw one on a railroad track, though, ball lightning. There's this phenomenon that happens in this one particular area in Texas.

What was it called, Marfa? Was that what it's called, Jamie? I think it's Marfa. It's like this bizarre artist community town and they have like frequent instances of what they call the Marfa lights. Wow. And it's ball lightning that flies around out there. Wow. You don't think that could be that? No because sometimes they would keep going until they just went out into space. Yeah and there were so many

sometimes they would two would come and they wouldn't circle each other and then one would change Direction and drop down by the mountain and one would just take off in another direction Some of some would go slow then go and just go how frequent does this take place? I Don't know. I was only there for those seven nights I say the first night we were there with those when we saw like the ten in the sky moving around and doing things the second Night, not too much the third night was a little bit more maybe four or five

So do you think that what it is is that this place has no light pollution and they picked a very specific area that they knew these things occur in? It's possible, no light pollution and plus also maybe that's an area where they have an opening or access or I don't know. Who knows?

I'm just now speculating now, but I don't know why. People came from all over the world to that location the week I was there to just camp out came from all over the world to that location today the week I was there to just camp out and look up at the sky Wow, yeah, listen man. We covered a lot. Yeah three hours. I really appreciate your time and appreciate all the stuff you put out there It's so fun. It's so fascinating and it's it's so interesting and thank you very much for being here, man I really had a good time. I enjoyed it man. Thank you. Thank you Please tell everybody how to find your website, all your social media, all that stuff.

Yeah, well first of all I have my own streaming TV network called Forbidden Knowledge TV. It's an app on the App Store. So they can just go get the Forbidden Knowledge TV app with the number 4, Forbidden Knowledge. And they can get access to a lot of videos and stuff that you can't find on YouTube or anywhere else. You know, produce shows like the one you watched, my Anunnaki series is on the Forbidden Knowledge TV app. And of course I have all my books on our website, Forbidden Knowledge TV, on Amazon as well. And just everything forbidden knowledge for the number four, for B-I-D-D-E-N, forbidden. There it is. We'll do this again, man.

I think we could talk for like 50 days. I know, I know, for sure. Thank you, Billy. Appreciate you, man. I think we could talk for like 50 days. I know, I know, for sure. Thank you Billy, appreciate you man. Bye everybody.