The Joe Rogan Experience - #2162 - Tim Dillon

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Tim Dillon: A Real Hero," is available on Netflix. Look for his book "Death by Boomers: Ho...w the Worst Generation Destroyed the Planet, but First a Child" in 2024. www.timdilloncomedy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. You get it. I get it. I get the whole thing. You see how powerful you feel? Yeah, you feel like you can talk shit, like you're in another dimension. All the things that you do, like working out and succeeding, you don't need to really do
Starting point is 00:00:27 a lot of that. If you put these on, you get a lot of the effects of like you're being a trained fighter and all that crap. If you just put these on, you kind of get the idea of that until someone calls you out and kills you. Yeah, you got to avoid like actual conflict. You got to run away. But you do feel superior to people
Starting point is 00:00:46 Oh for sure like you have a suit on or something. Yeah It keeps you away There's a distance between you and other people now that must be why celebrities wear them when they go out Probably like like we'll see like at concerts or UFC fights. You'll see celebrities with full-on sunglasses Interesting. Yeah at concerts or UFC fights you'll see celebrities with full-on sunglasses interesting yeah they're like a cat hiding underneath the chair and the tails hanging out like you can't see me that can see you stupid yeah no people they do give you some and a lot of people I guess are on drugs yeah that's probably what and then their eyes are bugged out of their head I just think
Starting point is 00:01:23 they're trying to avoid eye contact with people because then people yes give them a script Yeah, I think that's true. They just don't they want to be left alone Yeah, I mean if you want to be left alone in public. Maybe that's the only way to do it You just have these things and they're getting bigger and bigger and these are so huge. They're crazy This is like a rich lady who gets out of a car with a small dog They're crazy and you wear them and when I got them, I got them as a joke, but then you just keep doing it. Because they're good.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Because they're good, they're actually fun. And people come up to you and say nice things about the sunglasses. Which is weird. Which is weird, they'll go, these sunglasses are really cool. And like cool people, like black people, like those, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Like a black guy will go, those shades are cool, and I'll go, that's great. Like if a guy like me says it, it means nothing, I would throw them out. This is like a bad sunglasses from the 80s. Yeah. Like what Brian Bosworth used to wear. Do you remember the Bos? I don't. He was a guy who was famous for his sunglasses sunglasses he was a big time football player interesting he was one of those you know every now and then one of those fellas like what's his name the one that's dating Taylor
Starting point is 00:02:31 Swift Travis Kelsey that guy like when when one of those guys breaks through yeah becomes famous that was the boss oh wow see those are I mean those are corny as shit in 2000 but here we we are in 2024. They're back. Invest in bell bottoms, kids. They're absolutely back. They're absolutely back. Yeah. Yeah, you had a mullet too.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Everything comes back. Mullets are back. Yeah, mullets are back. Theo probably helped with that. Yeah, big time. And lesbians. Theo and lesbians. There's not enough new ideas.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You gotta recycle certain ideas. After a while you you go the mohawks not that bad Yeah, of course. What's the problem? Everything was baggy and then everything was tight and now everything's getting baggy again The ladies are wearing baggy pants a lot of people weren't baggy stuff, but then that'll probably swing Yeah, I thought the whole idea of the tight pants is to show your body That's what it's for right for sure. Yeah, what happened ladies? I don't know. Why'd you go baggy something happen? I don't get it go back to the tight stuff. Yeah, that looks better Well, they feel no one can objectify them in a in a bay if they were a bag yet They'll go to the gym in yoga pants that are so thin you know
Starting point is 00:03:44 You mean you could literally like read Braille through them, right? do the gym in yoga pants that are so thin, you could literally read braille through them. You see your full vagina out. And a lot of these gals are not wearing panties because they don't want the line. I don't want them to be on line. So they have just raw pussy covered by yoga pants out there in the wild.
Starting point is 00:04:04 We're kind of lucky as comedians to wear. Pretty much we don't like you dress up in a suit for UFC and for other stuff. Yeah, but most of us don't. Yeah, you don't. I don't mind a suit. I like it. I work if I have to go somewhere special. Yeah, throw a suit on. Right. You know, I don't mind it. Sebastian's into it. Boy, that guy. They wear it. I saw Seinfeld at't mind it Sebastian's into it boy that guy they wear it I saw Seinfeld at Gotham he's in it oh yeah yeah people wear them Malaney wears one yeah it gives
Starting point is 00:04:31 you a certain you feel like you're some sort of an expert for sure you know you're you're definitely better than the guy in the hoodie yeah I agree but I'm the guy in the hoodie and I agree with that yeah I agree like when I see Seinfeld I go I agree that you are and it's in the hoodie and I agree with that. Yeah, I agree too. Like when I see Seinfeld I go, I agree that you are, and it's, you know, it's not even fashion, he's better in every way. I wear hoodies three days a week. It's fun to wear a hoodie and jeans. Yeah, it's casual.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It's a great- Loose. I feel comfortable. It's a great thing to just- Soft. And to be able to make money in a hoodie's grave. Yes. That's the cool thing about it.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yes. That's the cool thing about it. To have jeans on and go, I'm going to make money in a hoodie and jeans. I think that's what John Fetterman was getting into when he went into the Congress. That's what he was doing. If I'm going to be rich now, I'm going to dress like what I would dress like if I was like Rick Rubin. He's kind of an interesting guy now because now he's starting to make sense. Yeah, what the fuck is going on? Did the stroke the stroke knock some sense? I don't know what happened But he's like actually coming out of the gate with some like very rational things
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, hot good takes on everything yeah, yeah on everything and I'm like if that's what sweatpants does Let's do it. I wonder if like when we when he was running He was recovering from the stroke and so that was why he would have those moments where his brain would sink off and we'd be like, this guy's fucked, he can't be a senator. But maybe what it really is is it just takes a while for everything to come back and now it's all back. And now he's making sense.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Because I haven't seen any of those videos since of him, there was a few videos where it was like, me if I eat like a 500 milligram edible. He was out of it for a period of time. Yeah, he was gone. He was in this place where it just didn't make sense what he was saying. Yeah, but now he's back, and it feels like,
Starting point is 00:06:14 from my perspective, that the things he's saying are pretty logical. What a crazy political move. Yeah. Recover from a stroke publicly. Right. While in the middle of a campaign. In a sweatsuit. Against a guy who's famous. Yeah. Recover from a stroke publicly. Right. While in the middle of a campaign. In a sweatsuit. Against a guy who's famous. Right. And still win. And still win. And then get
Starting point is 00:06:32 progressively better and make more sense because our guy that's the president is getting worse and Federman's getting better. I'm of the opinion and and I think you are too, that Biden doesn't exist. I believe... It could be the first AI thing. I think he's a living human being, don't get me wrong, but there's nothing there. It doesn't exist. It's not there. I don't think there's a question about this.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Right. So everything around him is with supporting the country, which is kind of crazy. Right. It kind of shows you that the system kind of works. Sure, you know when you got a guy like that It's a great kind of stress test to see like what happens Yeah, you get a guy that's just good and also how much you can gaslight people into voting for him again. Yes How much you can gaslight people into voting for the people around him again is what it really is. The people you don't even know.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Like this mysterious cabal of humans is actually running the country. Well it's such a weird thing because he came out of the state of the union. He was pretty good, but he was heavily drugged. Like something, and you might know more than I know about like certain types of things that you can do like what you've had all these doctors on and stuff is there a way to make that guy like that for the debates is he gonna be able to because now he wasn't great what I would recommend is I would find I would time it correctly right so I'd
Starting point is 00:08:01 recommend that he got lots of sleep I would cut all the ice cream out of his diet for several days, all the bullshit out of his diet. Then I would give him NAD infusions and IV vitamin infusions multiple days in a row, like three or four days in a row. Then the day of, I would make sure that he eats really well, gets a lot of sleep, and then I would fill him up. I'd fill him up with Adderall, I'd give him testosterone, I would give him human growth hormone, I'd give him nootropics, I'd give him everything that we know that creatine helps with. It actually does help. Creatine is a cognitive enhancer. I'm thinking of him getting all these injections in that crazy just just just that purple skin from all the marks that that skin
Starting point is 00:08:49 that's just wound so thin it's spun so thin on his body all of the bruising from all of these needles of stuff that they need to shoot him up with to just be coherent for an hour. Isn't it crazy like when Obama was president yeah worse they could get on him is remember when he wore that tan suit, right? Yeah, he never had a single moment publicly where he stumbled where he said something really stupid This is insane. It's insane. It's much worse than even you know, remember George W Bush and he would like, you know say silly things. Yeah This is like so far down the road from that.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It's so far down the road. It's so far down the road that it's like, I think it's elder abuse. I really do. I mean, if it was any other job, it would be elder abuse. If there was a guy who was running the corner grocery store and his family was making him run it, and he was that old and they had money, you'd'd be like what the fuck are you doing to your dad?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Why are you making your dad work? Your dad's out of it. Yeah, why would you do? Yeah, there was a guy in New York, this legendary guy Dom who ran this pizzeria called DeFaraz which is like widely thought of as the best pizza in New York and he was so old and at the very end he was just over the pie with the oil and cutting basil and it was like you're what you felt bad because the pie was amazing but you're watching a guy at the end of his life making
Starting point is 00:10:16 pizza making pizza very old and he would struggle he put it in the thing it was hard it was like you kind of gasped and that's what we have now except It's with Russia, but however if I went to a pizza place and there's a guy who loves making pizza so much that here He's fucking dying right his last days. He's still gonna make you a nice pie. Yes I'm gonna make a nice pie and he fought he must love the fact that he loves is awesome Yes, he loved it and you if you make good food, it's probably a lot like killing Yeah, for sure. You know sure like you kill on stage everybody love the great. We had a great time. Thank you I'm so happy you wonder what the reward is for Biden like is it even fun?
Starting point is 00:10:56 It can't be fun. Why does he even want to do this? I guy making that pizza when someone folds a slice of that pie and go yeah. Oh my god It's like they're killing that guy goes, I've made all of these people happy. Yeah. But this guy, I mean, this just came out in the Wall Street Journal where they're saying that he's like showing signs like behind closed doors. Wait, what are you saying? I know it's crazy. It's shocking. It's what? When president Biden met with congressional leaders in the West Wing in January to negotiate Ukraine funding deal, he spoke so softly at times and some participants struggled to hear him.
Starting point is 00:11:30 According to five people similar, familiar rather with the meeting, he read from notes to make obvious points, paused for extended periods and sometimes closed his eyes for so long that some in the room wondered whether he had tuned out. Or died are they they can't change him out now right you you and I both thought it was gonna happen in May we were convinced I remember texting you I was convinced I actually heard from people that were in kind of you know around the Trump campaign that thought they were also preparing to run against somebody who wasn't Biden. And they had believed that they were like, it's going to be Newsome or somebody and it hasn't been.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So why not to sound like a nut, but why are they so why are they so committed to this guy? There's something weird about there's something strange about it. Do you think that's it? I think he's the sitting president and they gaslit everybody into thinking he was fine. So now they would have to change course radically to justify getting him out of office. If they just had they just published an article, I think it was in the Times that was talking about Biden saying that his age is his superpower. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yes. And then Seth, what's his name? The guy from the fucking family guy? Seth MacFarlane. That guy retweeted it and was like, this is amazing, I couldn't have written this better. Thing. What? Right, right. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:13:01 His age is his superpower. So you'd have to turn that back. So you'd have to turn that back So you'd have to get all these people. Do you remember when there was a whole list of a Bunch of celebrities they used to make videos where they would tell you what to do, right? You know what we need to do. We write to the end of democracy Remember the bunch of them did that before the 2016 election? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Those people, of all, you'd have to do something like that with Biden.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Well, what's interesting about Biden is they put him in kind of because they kind of stacked the Democratic primary. They killed the momentum of Sanders. And there was a lot of people, Biden was like very behind and then sprung out at the end. They manipulated it. Just like they did with Hillary. This is like Donna Brazil wrote about in her book. They manipulated it to get him in. And it's just weird to me that when everyone sees it
Starting point is 00:14:03 so clearly and Trump is up in every poll, why they wouldn't just have him go out, give a very patriotic speech about, you know what, I thought I could do it, but now I can't. I thought I was okay. Because there's no one other than her. So if you try to put her in again, if you try to promote her as president to against Trump, Democrats are going to vote for Trump. Again if you try to promote her as president to against Trump Democrats are gonna vote for trying she should lose one more time, but she's gonna lose in a way that's no I know it's crazy. No, they have nobody else. That's the other thing. The thing is he
Starting point is 00:14:36 Should lose in a way that's crazy If you're looking at like competence because he's so old but people will vote for him Just because the machine behind him has kept the country, it's still relatively okay. You're still going out to dinner. You're still taking plane flights for the time being. For sure. No aliens have landed. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You know, Ukraine hasn't spilled over into America. It's all okay. Not yet. Kind of. Kind of. Right? So you would probably, if you're, especially if you're one of those celebrities that made that video about Trump, you can't turn course now.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Those people, that's out there forever. Remember those? Imagine those, There's No Heaven? Yeah. Remember that one? I think older people kind of like, some of them like it because they go, yeah, well, good for him. There's a lot of older people that don't want to step down. Like when white guys want a white heavyweight boxing champion.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And there's a lot of old people that go, I'm not going to retire. I'm not going to step down. I don't want to go into assisted living. Remember Frankie, he made that pie till the day he died. Till the day he died. He was 102 years old. He put the basil on, drop dead. Yeah, I think they they want they look at this
Starting point is 00:15:45 guy and they say good for him he's one of us there's a little bit of that going on he's one of us I definitely think there's a little bit of that going on I don't think that's Trump will beat him I think from jail yeah 100% Trump will win yeah but I don't know if it's real yeah I don't know I mean look I don't know. I mean, look, I don't want to cry election fraud, but why would I imagine that they would manipulate everything openly except the election? But this is what I, you know what I'm saying? But this is what I'm saying to you. Is it not possible that they haven't gone off Joe Biden because there was some fuckery in the last election. Well, is it not possible to some degree that they have this rabid insistence on this clearly dementia ridden guy because their promises have been made and there are people in positions
Starting point is 00:16:41 of power that could speak? I don't know anything. I'm just that's a possibility. I'm just I mean, it's just a guess, right? Who knows? I'm just asking the kinds of questions that people on Twitter will call me a name for asking. But... Well, you gotta stop reading that. Yeah, that's true. That's why I don't read it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Boy, that's a nice... Once you break yourself free... No, I know. I'm not on it as much. You feel so much better. Lex goes into a dark hole every few days. I know. Well, it's... I hope he doesn't read the stuff about the Kevin spacey interview life is dark Oh, he's a good spacey did yeah, god damn it. We wanted spacey Spacey you can get spacey. I know but then you're on the fifth person to have spacey you'll be the most I know Weinstein's coming here first. I know you're gonna have him as soon as he gets out of jail He's never getting out of jail. I hope he does
Starting point is 00:17:27 I don't think he's ever getting by the way he should isn't he in jail for the rest of his life No, it's turning around Joe. What do you mean? It's turning around? What are you talking about? Oh, you don't know what what's going on? He they just overturned all of his convictions What well get some of what I'm what but are you fucking telling you? the prosecutors in the Harvey Weinstein case were encouraging the Whatever you want to call them right the people victims the victims and yes, they are victims But she was encouraging them to just
Starting point is 00:18:02 When I was a juror on a murder trial, and you're instructed as a juror, this was years ago, but you're instructed to only consider the facts of the case. You can only discuss the facts of the case. These victims were out there and they were permitted and encouraged by a very overzealous prosecutor to share things that weren't related to the case. And the fact that the jury could have based their... Here, here it is.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Wednesday's hearing ahead of Weinstein's retrial comes just over a month after the New York Court of Appeals, by a four to three vote, ruled the testimony of prior bad acts, witnesses should not have been allowed because it was unnecessary to establish defendants' intent and served only to establish defendantsants propensity to commit the crimes charged He was convicted in the 2020 of first-degree criminal sexual assault and third degree rape and then he was sentenced to 23 years in prison He has maintained his innocence. So what are they saying now? They have a retrial gonna do a retrial How old is he now?
Starting point is 00:19:04 Cuz he looked fucking terrible before he was going into jail. He's walking around with a cane. He's in his early 70s But this is when directors do their best work Truly but he's not a director right producers, whatever I have confidence in him is what I'm saying I think if he can get out and well, I. I think he gets out He's got a lot to prove Do you think they'll let him work? They're not even letting Hollywood believes in nothing. They will absolutely let him work They will let him work and he should work if they if listen if the retrial happens and they let him and it doesn't work It is what it is, you know
Starting point is 00:19:40 Wow He gets out Imagine if it was all bullshit. Well, I don't know how, it's like. It couldn't be. That time. Well, they all did. That we lived through.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah. Was so, it was this moral panic. Oh, right, right. The time of, you mean the time of like me too. Exactly. Yeah. Everything that got, you know, that happened there. What's it say?
Starting point is 00:20:03 What originally happened, it says here, he had a separate 16-year sentence that is not affected by this decision in California. Oh, so there's another case which he was also sentenced to. So the New York trial has been... So he'll be transferred to a California prison? Oh, he's fucked. No matter why he's fucked.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Unless they do that one too. So those guys, that was what they did. But the crazy thing about him is he looked like that guy that would do that one so those guys that was what they did but the crazy thing about him is he looked like that Guy that would do that he looked exactly like the guy that behaved the way that he behaved. Yes Yes, like Dave Dave Chappelle had a bit about it. Yeah, oh he raped right Like you look at a guy, but it's the other thing about him. That's it's so crazy is how many? photographs of famous people were with
Starting point is 00:20:47 him and how many people thanked him when they won the award course it's so and how it was this open secret but it's just like they accepted this deal with the devil like the devil's gonna make you a star if you suck his dick and apparently that's what he would do yeah Whitney told me that there was girls that he knew that girls that she knew rather that did the deal And it was a deal like you suck his dick He's gonna get you in this movie and they sucked his dick and they got in the movie Like you would hold up his end of the bargain, right?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Which is one of the reasons why he was so powerful because you really could he wasn't just banging everybody He really was let's say this though and make people famous. We think that's negative But let's say him upholding his end of the deal is something Like if he puts you in the movie I think a lot of these by the way all of the famous people he did it to didn't really come out No against him no because they can't because then if they tell the truth Yeah, they were kind of because that was kind of a deal that was made not good But that was a deal and he made good on some of those promises
Starting point is 00:21:48 He made good on a lot of them apparently this is just from what I heard But you know Tarantino was telling us about this old-school Hollywood producer who had a bedroom in his office Sure, so you would go into his office and this is like in on the 60s or whatever So he had his office and then he had an a whole bedroom right in his studio yeah where he would bang all the starlets like yeah you wanted to be a star this you had a bang that guy which is just the deal with the devil that has always been that business that's always been there that's always been there it's like why people start cults yeah they always end up being sex cults, right? 100% of the time. All of these guys on Netflix, it ends up being creepy and sexual.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yep, all of them. That's part of it. And I think if you have that kind of power and people and you've got a steady stream of people walking in your door. Yeah. And you, you're also doing this very specific thing where you're choosing the most beautiful people to be in these incredible incredible films right me think about the movies that fucking guy made kill bill some of the best in the world pulp fiction oh you just go down the line him out so many times I've seen a movie all Miramax of course yeah they made insane movies and they were like the wine scene company those they were
Starting point is 00:23:03 the best yeah and they some of the best and they just did it with the devil. They did it with the devil Yeah, they did it with the devil like the devil. I you know, you watch an old Woody Allen movie ago I don't know if he's guilty. I don't know what happened. I go. I don't want to believe he's guilty But can I still enjoy the movie or or not and then some of them? It is a little different you watch it and you go it is I hope he's not guilty but there's a good chance he's guilty and There's a documentary that all of it's not good all of it's not good I mean even if it's like your neighbor's daughter
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yes, you known her since she was two and then you want to marry her. That's kind of crazy It's not great. You're an adult with children and your neighbor had a Dutchess, but then again, you know, part of your brain goes, okay, but like what if you really were in love? Like what if really, she really was the next door neighbor and really you were 60 and she was 30 and she loved you. Right. Or if your wife had adopted her from Cambodia, that makes it more complicated
Starting point is 00:24:05 You raised her but loved her still that's the next level that is what I was gonna say that ideal that you can't Yeah, we'll say that can't it's not ideal. You can look at the neighbor and say well Maybe you weren't close with the neighbor's daughter now. She's a grown woman. She has agency. She's a woman She loves you, but you know what's funny You can't say that about a kid that you fucking ray you can't marry a kid you raised No, you can't marry a kid you raised but did he raise her did he see her like every couple things? I don't know whichever however we can still watch any Hall. I care there any way to still watch Any Hall no, I don't know, probably not.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It's hard. You can, but you're gonna know the whole time. It's like watching House of Cards. You're like, how many? Yeah, but I can watch House of Cards because he's playing the guy he was. Right. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Right, right, right. I like that Kevin Spacey doesn't even exist. He's barely a person. He's such a good actor. He's become the thing. He always plays people kind of like that, Kaiser Soze, you know, Frank Underwood, he's become the thing, and he's so good at it that it doesn't ruin it for me. I can watch House of Cards. There's an arrogance that some stars had,
Starting point is 00:25:20 like particularly in the 90s. When first came to Hollywood and this is like really evident for me because I was not a star but I was on a television show so I got to be around a lot of stars and there was a way that some of them would treat you they would let you know that you are subhuman you are below them they would communicate with you in the most disrespectful and dismissive ways Like weird fucking weird got like mousy guys that I could kill right like instantly And they would just just be rude to you in a really weird way Because they had power that power and then when the an executive come over they would turn on the charm
Starting point is 00:26:03 They'd be smiling and laughing and then you would talk to them at the craft service and they would fucking dismiss you in the shittiest ways. I encountered a bunch of that. It was commonplace. And it was I think a thing that they aspire to, especially a lot of the guys that came from Saturday Night Live. Like when Phil came over from Saturday Night Live, Phil Hartman, when he was on news radio, that was the first thing he did after Saturday Night Live. And he had like his defenses up. Like I remember he was like a little like standoffish in the beginning, kind of shitty to us. Like he was the big star. And he was. And you know, Dave Foley was a pretty big star too. And the rest of us were kind of, no one really knew who we were. And after a while he'd relax and he would tell me about it.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And he was like, you know, it's great here. We all have fun, but God, I'm tired of life. Everybody was stabbing everybody in the back. And it was all, oh, everybody was, people were getting people fired that were like his assistants. Just because they wanted to fuck him over, they would steal people's things.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And it was just like really shitty. And it took a while for him to chill out and then I got to meet some of Those people that he was talking about and interact with them. They did the same thing to me Yeah, there was some shitty fucking people out of that. This is this this star culture Yeah, and they would be the ones that were the royalty and everyone else was a peasant was really fucking creepy interesting So I think if you're like an old-school dick grabber, and you're also on a Hollywood icon Right, you know you probably are doing that you're probably doing that Hollywood thing where everybody else is just there for you Everybody else is just should for you. Everybody else is just... Should we maybe wall off Hollywood and just go listen? Let them go wild. They're just all sexual predators. Like
Starting point is 00:27:52 Jurassic Park. It's Jurassic Park. Can't we do that? Can't we say enter at your own risk? They make great movies but occasionally they're gonna goose you. They may throw you against a wall. Yeah. I mean, if you train for the Navy SEALs, some people drown. Can't we just do that? Because the other way is it working where everyone's nice and good. Everyone can't be nice and good and have really good art. I don't think... I'm not saying everyone has to be killing everyone. No, everyone no you don't mean Ron Howard seems to be really nice and good but I watched this spacey documentary by the way and some of it is like okay he's clearly did the wrong thing and then some of it these guys are like because they wanted things from him they're like we went to the movies and he started
Starting point is 00:28:39 jerking off next to me it's like okay dude well then you know this is not a guy to hang with and then the next thing they say is, and then he invited me to a party at his hotel and he said Bruce Willis would be there, so I went. We can't feel bad for you, right, because you're trying to climb on the basis of knowing this guy. You are playing the game. That's right. You're playing the game. You're playing the game. You're dancing with the devil. You're dancing with the devil. You're going to lunch with Harvey. You're going to lunch with Harvey. You want it. You know, so to me it's like they're not sympathetic in the way that like, you know, other people are. Whether it's sexual
Starting point is 00:29:18 assault in the military or in the workplace or whatever, where people are not actively trying to better their chances of being famous by knowing this guy. Right. It's a complicated thing with Spacey, right? Because apparently some of the alleged people are like people that he worked with, like a grip on a set or a guy who has to drive him to it. He was just wild, apparently. This is allegedly right and then
Starting point is 00:29:46 some of those people died before they could testify do you think you can play a guy like Frank Underwood if there's not a little bit of that inside you somewhere no probably not probably not you know you know he had a really rough life did he and you know his brother, his father was a Nazi pedophile. Oh my God. This is true. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And his father was all of Twitter, but no, he was a Nazi. He would, he would rape them and make them watch the Nazi stuff. This is I'm, I know I sound like I'm lying a lot and I am a lot, but this is true. You can look this up. Oh God. His brother is a Rod Stewart impersonator. Oh, God. It wasn't great the way that it went for anybody over there. Jesus Christ. According to Kevin Spacey, he was raised by a relentlessly abusive neo-Nazi father. Wow. Spent his dinners
Starting point is 00:30:37 making anti-Semitic comments, which terrified his children. Wow. Yes. And worse than beating and raping them, he was anti-semitic. Wow. So he was really bad. Is that say that in here? The the the raping part? I believe from what I know. That's his brother the Rod Stewart impression? That he was a very abusive. Damn his brother's fucking got it nailed. The brother is really dialed. Boy if I saw that dude. Yeah no he's dialed. Yeah if I was like somewhere I'd be like holy holy shit, Rod Stewart? Look at this, he alleges his father frequently raped and beat up. I mean, I'm not making it up.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's terrible. Oh my God, frequently raped and beat him. Oh, why didn't they put that in the title? Like just the anti-Semitic comments, that seems like the least of the problem. For the way they grew up, let's be charitable, they turned out good. Right. They turned out well. The. They turned out well. Multiple Academy of War. He's a very talented man and his brother, I'm sure does a great Maggie Mae.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah. For the way they were raised. Everybody has to be judged a little bit with a backstory. I love that Lex Friedman has the courage to interview anybody well, and he's one of those guys who genuinely is like You know he knows what his intentions are yes, and he's very comfortable with himself And that's why he can talk to all these people yeah He's always coming from a good place even Kanye in the heat of everything Lex had him on yeah No, it'd be good Marge like did a whole episode and said I'm not releasing it. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. I Can't wait Kanye spacey. Can we do an election because there's gonna be an election I'm angling to get back in here with Kanye and spacey and Weinstein from jail
Starting point is 00:32:18 I would get in here with Kanye, but it would probably turn bad because you talk too much I know with Kanye. You gotta let him talk I know because like there was moments where I was talking there's moments where I was talking you Kanye was like He has so much to say I mean listen that yeah that madness inside of him was why his fucking songs are bangers They're just banger after banger his fucking new albums amazing. It's amazing, too We play in the green room all the time and all my Spotify playlist. I think There's more Kanye songs than anything. He's a genius and what you have to realize with people that are Incredibly gifted is a lot of that comes with some real downsides
Starting point is 00:33:02 Yeah, and they can't be judged maybe the same way you judge every other person. Well, I mean, they gotta follow the laws. You can't be out there murdering people. You can't do that, they gotta follow the laws. But if he goes, says something crazy, it's also like a, you know, you gotta look at like what you've gotten from him and all of this great music.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Let him have a tirade every now and then. Just let him have a little. Well, and then. Let him have a little... Well, it's like he's his own enemy. It's just like he can't, the rants just go. I know. They just come flying out and who knows how much of it he's really been committed to until he says it. And then once he's saying it, then he's really committed. And then he puts, he shows up statistics, like he held up this thing about, it was showing on his phone all of the different people that are running all the different music companies and how many of them are Jewish.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You know, he's like, they run the media, they run this, they run that, like, okay. Yeah. I mean, what are you going to say about that? If they are facts, if these people are all Jewish, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're doing something evil. Just, you know, if you buy pizza, a lot of the people selling it are Italian. I will say that the Jews seem to have made better choices than the Irish, my people. Well, they're really good at running show business.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah, I can't point to any list of people and go and they're and they're all I could is not one group and go and look and McDonough and O'Brien. Right, right, like Italians, like my people, what other than food? Someone said, a teacher I had in community college, you take it with a grain of salt, but said that Italians were very focused on the family and they were skeptical of institutions so they started small businesses whereas Jewish people were more open to institutions and that's why a lot of them are overrepresented in academia, politics, and media. Well Italians are fleeing communism too. Right, so Italians are
Starting point is 00:35:00 skeptical of the government, they were skeptical and they wanted to have their you know little pork stores and stuff and that's good It's also Catholic very family or not, you know, if you date an Italian girl, you gotta meet everybody That's right You can't be just showing up at her house like some regular white guy and the Irish were were drunks And sexually abused a little bit and they did the best they could Boxers everyone's doing the best they can yeah well we're all coming out of chaos You know the the reality of human beings in this country is this fucking country is three people's old
Starting point is 00:35:33 Right three people that's crazy. Yeah three people you know that's the reality of this country China is 400 people old Right You know that's real. Yeah That's the difference. Yeah, you know like we don't have our shit together yet And we started off with a really good idea that didn't anticipate technology And then technology got involved in terms of like stock trading And then influences of campaigns nobody anticipated And then influences of campaigns nobody anticipated the lobbyists special interest groups
Starting point is 00:36:10 Nobody anticipated the military industrial complex till Eisenhower talked about it on TV Just all these things got in the way of the original idea that they just they had a great fucking idea of how to make sure That no one ever becomes a dictator and that the will of the people get served They had a great idea and now they have an idea where everyone can kind of be a dictator So that's not the worst can kind of be a dictator. So that's not the worst idea. You can be a little dictator. Well what they really didn't anticipate is the power that technology companies have. Yeah. That's what they own. Your thoughts, dreams, hopes, fears. They have burrowed into your life more than any of the robber barons could, more than any of those guys. Morgan a Rockefeller Carnegie They've gotten insanely wealthy just from your data
Starting point is 00:36:48 Absolutely, and then convincing you you have to buy a new phone every week Yeah, and they're helping you and that's the scary part, right? They're utopians and they believe they're creating a truly better world and helping you They're gonna make your life better and they make your life better you do, and these are things that make your life more convenient and easier. How great is Google Maps or Waze? So when they tell you it's more convenient to just not have this discussion or not be able to say a certain term
Starting point is 00:37:15 or not be able to, then you, you know. You just comply. You comply and you go, okay. I don't wanna start any trouble. I don't wanna start an issue. I like Postmates. Yeah. Or whatever it is. I like Postmates. Yeah, whatever it is. I
Starting point is 00:37:27 like Airbnb well sure What's failing now it's over now, it's all over now. I met one of the guys Well someone I don't know if it was you but someone said and this is really nice Someone tried to get me back and they were like no Someone met a big guy and it might've been you. Someone was like. I think it was me. Yeah, somebody was like, what about getting like a guy
Starting point is 00:37:48 like Tim Dillon back on and they were like, no. They're fucking up, they're making a big mistake. Well, that issue that I had was all about the redundancy of cleaning fees. Why would I pay a fee and then clean? This has now become a rallying call for millions of brave Americans to hold Airbnb accountable for what they've been doing.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Forget the trafficking, people showing up to the house in the middle of the night trying to rip you out of it. This is true. Single women going back to parties all the time. Guys knock on the door at 3 a.m. It's not safe. A lot of the people who host, like have Airbnbs cameras set up it is strange there's also someone had an interesting scam where they were renting a house and they were using that house as an Airbnb
Starting point is 00:38:36 house of course when they're probably making money off of the rental like right you think about how much a house cost a rent if it's like two thousand bucks a month yeah and you could Airbnb it for five hundred bucks a night. Yes, what's a Airbnb cost? But it's by about 400 yeah, so you would probably make a lot of money Yeah, there's a lot of that pay your mortgage easy And then you could do that with multiple houses you got income constantly coming in and I think they interviewed the CEO recently They interviewed him and he was basically like, listen, we're trying to design your trips.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Like they're trying to figure out ways to get competitive again. Cause they're like, we know people are going back to hotels. We know it's gotten too expensive. Is that what it is? Yeah, it's gotten too expensive. People are like, we don't understand why we'd pay all of this money to have all of these rules when we could just go
Starting point is 00:39:27 to a hotel it's easy right and we don't have to worry about anger you get a report card Airbnb's a report card nobody wants that on a trip you get a report card for like how good you did or bad people writing with a mass use about you is that fun you going to vacations he's gonna write a review some psychopath oh so like you could like take a giant shit and forget to flush it and then Review and they then they trash just a simple mistake a simple mistake and flush stay out of people's homes Yes, this is the real reality. Yeah, stay out of people there over 30. You can no longer stay with people Put it this way. let's give them till 35
Starting point is 00:40:05 or 40 you have to get a hotel yeah you can't get a hotel you cannot stay with a with a friend and you you don't need to get an Airbnb with seven people yeah I always get weirded out when people like to just stay with different friends and every time I'm like no do you like being annoying yeah that's done now you can't stay with anyone anymore you go to a hotel That's nice like an adult. It's like an adult you go. This was nice. Goodbye. You need to say the word Goodbye, and then you got to go to a hotel Otherwise people are like they feel uncomfortable in their own home. They do not want you there It's kind of crazy that Airbnb
Starting point is 00:40:39 That's another thing that popped up out of nowhere that nobody saw coming that was a disruptor that an uber right? Yeah, uber was a big one popped up out of nowhere that nobody saw coming that was a disruptor that and uber right yeah uber was a big one Popped up, but no one would have thought that everybody would become a cab driver for extra money Well, it coincided with like this with this rise of the gig economy where people are like I'll just be I can work I own a car I can work and I can make money through this app and You can not have a boss boss exactly like like one of the things I loved about delivering newspapers when I was a kid was you know I did it when I was in my teens and 20s it's like you could just go to the place pick up the
Starting point is 00:41:15 paper you did your work but you could listen to the radio you can no one's in your ear no one's talking to you you buy yourself as long as you get your job done you're good and if you're an uber, you don't have, you don't just, like, I don't have to go to a fucking office somewhere. I just pick this dude up and take him to the airport. Oh yeah, it's perfect. Thank you, thanks for the tip, bye. Easy.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Drive away, be a nice guy, you know, try to keep your car clean. That's right. You can make money, and you don't have to listen to anybody. And they're having fun, some of those guys are having fun all day, listening to hateful podcasts. Please! Perhaps mine. Listen to this. Listen to smoking cigs in their car right now. Yeah people listening to it right now going. I'm enjoying my life I'm having fun somewhere. There's someone in the back seat going fucking Tim Dillon shut yeah Shut up. I hate it what he did to Megan McCain was so rude
Starting point is 00:41:58 He did to all of these people all these so innocent people innocent so Fucking innocent good billionaire speaking innocent. Innocent good billionaire. Speaking of innocent, did you see Fauci? Did you see the... When he came out? Did you see the... The leaked tapes? Oh, not just the leaked tapes, but him getting grilled in Congress?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Oh, I didn't see it. Oh my God. Was it bad? Was it brutal? It's horrible. Yeah. I think Jim Jordan got him lying under oath. He's just... no matter what they catch him with, he tries to find a way to weasel out of saying
Starting point is 00:42:27 that he said that, including saying, mandating masks, shutting down schools, locking everything down, closing businesses, forcing people to get the vaccine. All of it is on tape. He said all of it. It seems to be, again, it's the gaslighting thing where people go, we can just now come out
Starting point is 00:42:45 and say that we never actually said any of that. It's crazy him saying that though. Not just saying that, but even when they catch him saying that, that's not what I was referring to. Right. But that's exactly what you were referring to. There's no ambiguity at all about any of the things you're saying. And then also the gain of function research.
Starting point is 00:43:02 They're deleted a bunch of emails. There's all these emails from his assistant talking about how to go in separate channels to talk about this stuff and how to skirt around the Freedom of Information Act. And then fucking Peter Hotez talking about deleting emails. They all knew what the fuck they were doing, man. They were all very aware that they were going to be investigated eventually. There should be a commission on this whole thing, but just like the 9-11 commission would probably be set up to fail.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And that's what the commissioner said. That's not what I'm saying. Even if Trump gets into office, how could it be? Because he was the guy. He put Warp Speed in place. That's right. He thought she was behind him at press conferences. I think that's his biggest vulnerability, ironically Trump, is that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:43:48 don't trust him because of that period. Well, he hasn't corrected course. Right. Because it's very difficult for him to ever say that he's wrong, right? He doesn't like saying he's wrong. So for him to correct course, for him to look at the studies that are coming out of the UK and Europe about excess deaths and where they're a little bit more honest about what the fuck
Starting point is 00:44:09 is going on because they have socialized medicine, there's a lot more going on over there than is going on over here. There's so much about protecting pharma here. Yeah, so much money. I mean, so much money invested in advertising. I mean, everything gets advertised by it whether it's Into you know internet shows. Yeah, there's fucking so many
Starting point is 00:44:32 television shows mean that that Montage I'm sure you've seen it brought to you by Pfizer right CNN one that's fucking nuts man. It's crazy It's nuts It's so much there's so much money involved in this that these people just keep their fucking mouth shut because the people that are These people aren't real journalists on television Now you see that when Chris Cuomo has to debate Dave Smith, right? What they are is mouthpieces for whatever the fuck is the network. They're actors Yeah, they're doing like actors and they think they're journalists
Starting point is 00:45:00 Which is hilarious like when you see like when Elon Musk sat down with Don Lemon, and you realize, I need you know, and like, Don said it, or Elon said it best rather, he said Don is doing CNN outside of CNN. That's like what he thinks talking to people is. Yeah, no, they're actors, they're showpieces, and they're mouthpieces for usually corporate America, and quite often whatever party makes corporate America feel cozy at the moment. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bizarre, bizarre merging of commerce and the news.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. You know, that should have never, that's another thing no one saw coming, right? The Founding Fathers, they never saw that level of propaganda being possible, that you would have funded propaganda that was working step by step with the government? It's gotten to be, but you know what? It's watching it fall apart over the last few years has been really interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Because it is falling apart. Oh, well it has to. You are watching these guys and you go, they are convincing nobody. I mean, I'm sure they're still convincing some people, but most free thinking people, most people that don't have an investment in it are looking at it. It feels fake. It all feels fake. I think people are starting to question it more than they ever have.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I don't think the government will ever fully recover from the pandemic in terms of trust levels Right with all those kids who had to do Proms in a car or wear masks jogging on a track Mm-hmm. I don't think those kids ever look at the government the same way and that's probably good. It's good I think that's good It's good And the thing is like young kids are paying attention to what is going on now in a way that they Know that it's gonna affect their life
Starting point is 00:46:49 They pay attention to the government like these fucking idiots They're gonna affect my life because they affected their life That's right And they did it to their parents like how many of these young kids saw parents lose jobs saw divorces happen suicides in the family breakups drug addiction so many fucking things happen that didn't have to happen that were brought on because of the lockdowns and because of the pandemic and the government's mandating things.
Starting point is 00:47:13 How many people that they know that got health problems because of the vaccine? How many people that they know died young? Everybody knows something. No, and I think they're more likely now to have a skeptical view of the government. Which is good. And I think they understand more probably the value of, now, I don't know if they're going to understand this in every area, but what propaganda is, how it kind of functions and how to be aware and cognizant of the fact that there are people that are shaping and
Starting point is 00:47:42 sculpting the narrative and shoving it down your throat. Yeah. I think there's more people now questioning things, especially young kids, are questioning stuff about the war machine and the war economy more than they ever have before and going like, what is, why are we involved here? And why are we funding this?
Starting point is 00:48:03 And why are we doing that? And I think we funding this? And why are we doing that? And I think people are, and that doesn't end there. They're sloppy, obviously. They're not getting everything right. But they're out there. And they're also being heavily manipulated. Yeah. Which is something that's been discussed with a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:48:20 on the show. We talked about, with Gad Saad in particular, like who is behind all these protests at the universities? Like they're organized. And they're organized a lot by Soros-funded groups and a bunch of different groups that they organize these things to get a narrative very popular, you know? And that it's all, the whole thing is just disruptive That's the key the key is to get people upset right to keep people disrupted
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yeah, just to further erode our idea that we have any kind of control whatsoever about what goes on I went to one of those protests at UCLA and I was it was um Fun, you know, it is it's it's young people They're trying to enjoy themselves. Is that what it was? It kind of felt like that. Like a little festive? It didn't feel like Hamas had taken over the college. Like I know that it felt like there
Starting point is 00:49:17 were people there that were clearly probably pro-Hamas, right, as whatever you want to call them, as a group. Right. But then it felt like there was a lot of kids there that just saw what was going on in Gaza and they were like, we are against America funding that. And they went out to do that and they wanted to, in the best way that they knew how express, how upset they were.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Now, you know, you can't destroy property, you can't commandeer areas. These are all areas where in a civil society, you can't do those things. But I think a lot of the people, their reaction to a lot of what was going on was probably heavily manipulated, but some of it was organic.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Some of them were- It's also, they're just trying to be good people. Seeing it on TikTok going like, we're seeing kids being killed and we're paying for it. And, and we should do something. And I, the more people I spoke to, I was like, yeah, I didn't think that they were, I thought probably a lot of them were a little naive about certain things but they're in college right so that's okay everybody's naive in college
Starting point is 00:50:32 that's right yeah and it's a thing to be a good person you want to go out and support the good thing what's a good thing free Palestine yeah that's right they should be free yeah from the river to see which river would see who cares that's not what's important what's important is I'm out here because you which river would see who knows that's important What's important is I'm out here because you know Debbie's really progressive and she's hot want some coffee Yeah, please Debbie's really progressive and she's hot right impress her well that's and listen there's there's a fun I enjoyed it they had they had you know it seemed fun. I took a few selfies with them. They were good people
Starting point is 00:51:00 And then they were like the car recognized yeah a few times Yeah, and then the kids were like they were like Abby Morton on. And I was like, thank you, you know, whatever. Thank you. And they were very nice. And then I, and then they were like, well, the cops are coming in. They think they go, we think they're coming in with rubber bullets and you know, hoses and everything. And I said, I got at the Beverly Hills Hotel, you have to put your breakfast order on the door by 1am. And I and I explained that to the kids I said I had and they they'll know to bring the egg and everything I said I can't be here during the onslaught of the police activity but you guys should I even said that I go you guys should and lock arms
Starting point is 00:51:40 do that stuff because you only live once and you're only a kid once and make these cops work, who cares? Lock arms, but I had to go. I can't be. Did you see what happened in Philly when the gay pride parade met free Palestine and they clashed? Oh, it was a fight. Yeah, it was a clash. They clashed. Kurt Metzger would call that, the great Kurt Metzger would call that, I believe, an intersectional car crash.
Starting point is 00:52:03 It was funny. They were saying you can't march because Palestine's not free. You got to stop would call that, I believe, an intersectional car crash. It was funny. They were saying you can't march because Palestine's not free. You gotta stop right here. We're more important. This is more important. It was weird watching it because they were like, there's no joy. There should be no one should be happy. I think pride is very silly. There's a whole month. That's very silly. If you look at what was done to black people and you look at what was done to gay people, it's insane that Pride is a full month. A couple of weekends, maybe one or two, the idea that it's a full month is nuts. How about there's only Veterans Day? Right, there's one day for veterans and there's an entire month. There's Veterans Day and Memorial Day. And what the month of pride allows people to do is it allows corporations to just talk
Starting point is 00:52:53 about how down they are with fisting. That's really all it is. Why don't we have a Veterans month? It's just Capital One going, we come, it's like, we will, you can, and I say that as an out gay guy who has no problem with people going to pride parade and having fun I don't think nine-year-old should be there how old do you think is the cutoff I mean when your kids are in their teens perhaps if they're in their older teens
Starting point is 00:53:18 I just think kids should be legal teens you mean no I mean I don't know 13 year old needs to be there either i 17 17 17 and no he's gay 17 or or they could just 17 and they're or they're they're like sure enough to handle what's going on are they though i Don't know but i mean it depends like again i'm not mature enough to handle what's going on the pride Well i don't know the pride parades have gone off the chain They've gone off the chain. I mean, they've gone off the chain. But you know, people dressing up like dogs and stuff is crazy. Congressman.
Starting point is 00:53:51 But like to me, I've always felt that like if you're going to go out and have a party where people are getting drunk and hooking up and dancing, anybody who's legally underage shouldn't be there. So 17 is right on the cusp and then 18 and everything is fine. But to me it's like I don't think it belongs for kids. That's clearly it doesn't belong for kids. Well people want to do it to show their kids tolerance and acceptance. But you don't have that's not. That's why I want to do it. It's very sexualized. The thing about pride is like yeah sure you should
Starting point is 00:54:21 celebrate the fact that gays are free to get married and they have all the same rights as everybody else as they should. But yeah, like it's sexual. Yes. It's like a lot of guys with thongs on. It's like spring break. Right. It's wild. It's like would you take your 10 year old to spring break to show, to teach them tolerance? No. Right. You wouldn't do that. That's kind of straight pride Spring break is a bunch of people going to get fucked up in Florida, right? And they're gonna fight each other and have sex and you wouldn't take your young Children to see that I don't see the reason to Take your kids to a highly sexualized parade. Yeah No, you want to take them to an event that's not as sexualized parade. Yeah, no. You wanna take them to an event
Starting point is 00:55:06 that's not as sexualized? Like maybe a mother would tell her kids, like your father's getting an award, he's gay. He's getting an award, that's why it didn't work out with us. Your father's gay, he's a faggot, and we're watching him get an award tonight because he wrote a book. Poor bastards are out there in marriages right now. Probably a lot. There's probably a lot
Starting point is 00:55:28 of them. Just trapped. But you know what it is? Nothing's great. You probably have a fine wife. Nothing's great. It's listen, continue to do things on the DL. Just don't give her AIDS. I and this is not a popular thing to say During pride There's so many political attachments to being gay now if you're a closeted guy just just fuck your wife once a month She'd honor don't give her AIDS and just keep the family tight and I know that that's probably not popular But I mean now is not that I mean, it's just if you're 60, are you going to come out? I mean, do we really need people coming out in their 70s? Do we need this? To be very honest, there's a window of which you can get honest. If you don't double down on the lie. I Think that's a great strategy for all of life. I think there's a window to be honest, right? It's not forever
Starting point is 00:56:29 Right. Nobody wants somebody coming out and they're 50 60. It's like on the deathbed. Yeah, it's on their deathbed Oh, so that now you've lied the whole time, right? Just keep it a secret. Mmm. Just keep it a secret It's not a bad piece of advice. Happy Pride, but it is. I do feel that way. I think that like some people. Yeah, some people probably can't handle a change. Yeah, some people. Big shift. Yeah, sure. Yeah. It's a, you know, I mean, it's also weird now because people, it's like, what are you coming out as if you just, you want to have sex with dudes, you want to have sex with women. And then you're like women and then you're like okay so then okay I want I'm gay or lesbian but then you're like what is LGBTQIA2 thing what are you what is that flag
Starting point is 00:57:12 you'd be a two-spirit two-spirit yeah that's what two is I the fact that we allow that is hilarious no no it's amazing it's amazing and a I like how a's in there you're asexual you know't have a fucking dog in this race. If you go, okay, so I have this, and then I have a flag. I don't understand, nobody understands the flag. Keeps getting bigger. Indigenous? Keeps changing.
Starting point is 00:57:33 What a white gay people, and I'm not saying indigenous people don't have issues, but what a white gay people have anything to do with the indigenous community? They're just trying to develop a gang. Yeah, it's right. It's like, why would they pretend to understand what indigenous people go through?
Starting point is 00:57:46 How did the eye get in there? It used to be we were making fun of getting putting the trans people and the lesbians in with the gays. Yes. Which is a very different thing. Well lesbians are going away. Barry Weiss and Ibea is the final lesbian. Did you know that? No. She's the final one. That's it the final countdown That's it Barry way And do you know in Israel that canceled the pride parade this year? Why? Because their gay pride flag they made the yellow I think bigger because of the hostages Oh, wow, so they didn't they would not have a gay pride parade When they're also using all the material that they would have used in the Pride Parade to carpet bomb civilian areas of Ra'afah. But here's the point.
Starting point is 00:58:32 All of the fireworks and stuff are directly being shot at babies' faces who are homophobic and should go. Because by the way, you know that's the whole thing they're doing over there, where they go, they go, it's like they just bombed a school. And Israel's got to stop doing this all the time. Every now and then, when I grew up, Israel bombed a school every now and then, and people would go, oh, it was not all the time. Now they're doing it too much, and it's making people upset. When I grew up, it was a nice thing, every now and then. Never a nice thing, but every now and then it would be like, you wouldn't know what Israel's doing. They'd go, Israel just bombed a school. And you'd go,
Starting point is 00:59:04 oh, it was rare. Now they're doing just bombed the school and you go, huh? It was rare. Now they're doing it so much. And if you go, this might be a lot and I support them and the right to exist. But this seems to be every human rights organization in the world, every country, everybody's going, this is guys, please. Even America, even Biden, even Biden is going, guys, please. And the response to maybe let's not bomb these refugee camps is do you know what Hamas does to gay people and women? Yeah. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:59:35 guys, come on. Yeah, that's not yeah, but you're killing people. You're killing children. Yeah. And women and women. Yeah, A lot. A lot. We got to figure out a way. More than you're killing terrorists. Yeah. We got to figure out a way to make this, you know, a better situation. That's another one that's so wild too, because the left has always been like kind of clear on where it would look at like conflicts. You know, like with Ukraine, the left is all in for Ukraine, right? There's people on the right that are in for Ukraine, but the left is pretty much all in. They're all in.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Putin's bad. The far left isn't, but the mainstream left that we all know about is. But with Israel, you have people on the left that are pro-Israel. A lot. Hardcore. Hardcore. Who just will find a way to rationalize the human shield argument, no matter what on the left that are pro-Israel, a lot. Jared You know, no one's talking about the history of the region like the real history of the region, which is really complex It's very complex. It goes back forever. And then no one is Looking at this like there's any kind of fucking solution that makes any sense now, so you're either ideal
Starting point is 01:00:56 So there's no like clear path like this guy's dead-on and this is the way we have to treat this and this has to be handled No, it's either Hamas is using human shields and Israel has a right to exist and they want to wipe Israel out and if Israel laid down their arms they would slaughter them, if Hamas laid down their arms they would be fine. Like, fuck man. It's hard and it's like there's definitely, I think, naivete on both sides. The people that the Khamas is like a high school theater group are insane. But the people also that think that you can bomb your way to the peace over there, I don't know. Yeah, you're not going to do that. You're not going to do what are
Starting point is 01:01:39 they going to do with all those people that survive? I mean, imagine how many future Hamas people they've created. They're gonna build hotels in Gaza. They're going to turn it into a... because I think that's maybe the end game is to like eventually put a bunch of money into it. That's perhaps the end game. Well, it is expensive real estate. It's real estate by the sea. They're gonna put hotels in it and then white people, you know White chicks from America are gonna go to trips. Well, whenever there's like land Yeah, that something happens to that's close to water people like hang on right on before making decisions You know this area of Maui is
Starting point is 01:02:19 Really right valuable. Yeah, we can do wild things here We can figure out a way to appropriate it, if we just hang on long enough for all these people to lose their mortgages, and we just figure out a way to slow down construction, slow down rebuilding. I mean, look, it's a terrible tragedy that this happened, but look, we can't go back in time. What are we going to do? I mean, what are you going to do? Want these people to rebuild the shack? They're going to hire the people that are left to work at the hotels that the people
Starting point is 01:02:46 who bombed them are going to visit. That is exactly what is going to happen. And there's going to be a woman, there's going to be a kid who goes, here's your ex Benedict, and she's going to go, hi, are you from here? And he's going to go, yes. And she's going to go, does your family still live here? And he's going to go, no. And she's going to go, why did they move?
Starting point is 01:03:04 And he's going to go, they were killed in the war and she's gonna go oh anyway can we have some ice lattes too like that's that's what's gonna happen that's my guess I guess do you think that there's any is there a way that they could sell Israel taking over Gaza is there a way they could actually sell that? Yes, the way you really sell everything is by saying humanitarian reasons, and you're going to pump in a lot of money, and you're going to make things a lot better. I don't know. The last administration that truly tried to get a Palestinian state, people talk about Clinton, but it was really H.W. Bush.
Starting point is 01:03:46 George H.W. Bush tried to curb a lot of the settlement building and try to say, listen, guys, we need to come to the table and have a Palestinian state. There was another attempt during Clinton. It didn't work for various reasons. People can argue about why. It does feel like no one's talked about it recently and it's just kind of been a thing that everybody ignored. So the idea that it won't exist is more likely now I think than it was. I mean and it should exist people should
Starting point is 01:04:17 have the right to have a home but I feel like they would sell it in the sense that in order to provide economic and security guarantees, it has to be an occupied region forever. I think that and then the idea is like, I mean, listen, they're preparing. I mean, look at Military Times just wrote an editorial. They want to bring back the draft. They want to bring it back in Germany. They're all preparing for something. There is a very big push right now to militarize certain areas of the world, to bring back
Starting point is 01:04:52 the draft, to see this as a Cold War that could turn hot. Biden basically said to the Ukraine, use American weapons in Russia. You can use american weapons for cross but not in a defensive capacity for cross-border attacks into russia russia's now doing war games in the caribbean you know we are ratcheting all of this stuff up at a time when we should be completely going the other way we should be trying to figure out
Starting point is 01:05:23 how to live on the planet with China and we should not be getting involved in a, we should not be encouraging countries to join NATO to antagonize Russia and getting involved in proxy wars. That's crazy. Didn't Trump say that he was gonna pull out of NATO? He said that. He also said he would have bombed, you know, at a fundraiser the other day he said he would have bombed Russia and China like... What? very bellicose. Yes, you can look at Oh my god, so he's saying all kinds of wild stuff now I don't think he would have but I think it might also help to be that bellicose and say all those wild things It does saying that you would bomb China and Russia
Starting point is 01:05:59 He said at a fundraiser recently and the people in the fundraiser were kind of shocked he was basically like yeah, we would hit him and you know, we would have done it. Yeah, he's been, you know. I gotta see this. No, he's right here. Trump at fundraiser says, we would have bombed Russia and China. What? What?
Starting point is 01:06:18 What did he say? Where did he say it? What the fuck did he say? I believe that President Trump will be supportive of Taiwan when he becomes president. He's there the first term. So where does it say that he would bomb? What does it say here? During a rally in Bronx, reference several authoritarian leaders including Vladimir Putin saying they were at the top of their game whether you like it or not
Starting point is 01:06:48 The world is going to respect us again if he's reelected He claims the bomb revelation was made in a Washington Post report on Trump's recent fundraising tour during which he tested the boundaries of federal Campaign finance laws according to experts at a fundraiser in New York earlier this month. Mr Trump told the attendees he wanted to hear what they had on their minds hearing options from on former UN ambassador and his final Republican primary opponent Nikki Haley and several issues connected to Israel mr. Trump is routinely what is it where's it say about the bomb thing where's I don't see any of this you should that should be like front and center if it's in the head No for sure like why you make me get go all the where's it say bomb?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Here says the bomb revelation was made but right, but what does that mean? amongst the People talking. Yeah, what does that mean? Like they're not saying his quote. That's a real sneaky thing to do Yeah, the bomb revelation was made in a washington post report on trump's recent fundraising tour But what was it if I different article on it? Yeah? See if they have a quote yeah that seems trump would bomb moscow allegedly said he would allegedly right Allegedly well he says a lot of stuff right might not have said this but that's a crazy yahoo title
Starting point is 01:08:03 Trump suggested at fundraiser he would have bombed like that seems to me like unless you have the fucking quote you shouldn't be saying that it is kind of funny don't turn out crazy Putin that's a great headline oh my god the hill said that but this doesn't say he was gonna bomb anybody. It says according to the Kiev Independent, which is what Yahoo reposted, the formerly and possibly future president. Let me say this. In what Trump said a few days before, according to the Kiev Independence retelling of a May 28 story in the Washington Post, the former and possibly future president suggested at
Starting point is 01:08:43 a fundraising event that he would have bombed Moscow in response to Russia full-scale invasion of Ukraine. But this is not saying his actual quote. He also said in quotes he would attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his watch. But is that, it's got an asterisk? Is that, no it's a quote. So is that his, that his quote? Did he say that though? Because it's weird. It's saying an asterisk. Is that, no, it's a quote. So is that his, that his quote? Did he say that though? Because it's weird. It's saying, the quote is that he said he would attack Beijing.
Starting point is 01:09:10 And so in quotes that way, is that his quote though? Attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his watch. Did he actually say that? Or is this a retelling of what this person is saying and they're putting that in quotes. The whole thing is a little slippery It is slippery because if you're not is suggested at a fundraising event He would have bombed Moscow like that seems like you should have that quote you yeah, you would think
Starting point is 01:09:41 Trump makes sweeping promises to donors on an audacious fundraising tour doesn't say anything in there about bombing does it in the Washington Post? Google just do a find on this big-ass article and look for bomb here it goes okay for example at one event he suggested he would have bombed Moscow and Beijing if Russia invaded Ukraine and China or China invaded Taiwan surprising some of the donors but you don't have the quote no he said it said it before with John Daley with the golfer. He did say, I told Vladimir I'd hit Moscow. He did say that. And he did say that. He said, and you can get this, he did say to John Daley, he basically said, like, listen, I told him, I said, if you go in, we'll hit Moscow. And Trump said, I don't know if he believes me or not, but you just got to say these things, you know. He was kind of telegraph again. But listen, I think that, you know, there's a
Starting point is 01:10:29 probably a value to some of that talk. I said, we're gonna hit Moscow. He sort of believed me, like 5%, 10%, that's all you need. He never did it during my time, John, you know. No, no, it's funny. Why did he do this during the last four years? Because he knew he couldn't. It's funny how she didn't bother you either. Yeah, no, she didn't bother me.
Starting point is 01:10:57 I told him the same thing. John Daly getting hammered, chatting it up with the president. Guy's got an amazing life. I gotta get that guy in here. Yeah. John Daly, if you're out there. It'd be epic. Let's get hammered chat it up with the president guys got an amazing life. Yeah, get that guy in here. Yeah, John Daly if you're out there Let's get hammered. Yeah, but did so I mean who knows if he said at the fundraiser or not They are slippery and they do attribute things to him and there's maybe more context. Yeah, it's real hard to know But just saying that's crazy. Yeah, I don't know if you believe me maybe 5% Yeah, but I think maybe that's good
Starting point is 01:11:23 There's something good about a maniac when you have a maniac in there who is you know a guy that's unpredictable I think maybe Kim Jong-un You know when he would do that and then Trump was on the other end of that maybe that was perhaps helpful Maybe not I don't know but do you really want to be playing chicken with fucking Russia? No, I think we got a chill Yeah, I think we got a chill across the board. It doesn't feel like we're chilly It feels like every and it feels like we're on this inevitable course Towards World War three. It's every article and headline is that guys let's pull it back. Yeah, let's have a summer here Yeah, let's relax a little you know, but it's not gonna relax because it's getting close to November and everybody's got to be terrified
Starting point is 01:12:03 Oh my god, Aren't you? Well, depending on which article I read or media I consume, I don't know. It feels like they're doing a lot to keep him from running. You know? I mean, you have the Stormy Daniels thing, which was a misdemeanor. It was elevated to this felony You know, it was like it would have never been prosecuted had he not been no running for president people that scares the shit out of me That's terrible. And that stuff's crazy. Absolutely and the Republicans are gonna do it back. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:12:39 So now you're gonna have because they weaponized the government against you know When you had like the Steele dossier, and Hillary Clinton, you had all of this, what ended up being, you know, faulty intelligence about him being controlled by Russia, and then they had all of these investigations and spent all of this time and energy trying to get him and couldn't. And then they tried to get him on like like inflating the prices of the buildings he owns and now they finally got him on paying hush money to someone who is a porn star.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Well what they got him on was the inappropriate way they put it in the ledger. Right the way they put it in the ledger. The way they entered. Right. Exactly. Yeah 34 times. So 34 different felonies. And I know people that hate Trump that go we we shouldn't, they shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Well, that's scary if someone, if he gets into office, you don't think that judges and prosecutors that are sympathetic to him would do the same thing? Absolutely. That's probably what's scaring the Biden people more than anything, is the retribution. I mean, this guy is, I mean, he's a vindictive guy. He's always been a guy that goes after people who go after him. You know, he hits back harder than they hit him. And if they're doing this to him and he knows all the people that did it. Well, you have all the guys now, his guys, right? Bannon, Stephen Miller, all these guys, they are all saying, hey, where are you? DAs all over the country start bringing cases against prominent Democrats. Yeah, they're worried. They're worried. You know, they're
Starting point is 01:14:03 worried because if, if Trump doesn't get in then you do you remember what happened when Trump lost and then all these people were saying everybody who supported him they should be on a list like right. Whoa, that was insane. Whoa. Are they willing to start a world war before this election? That's interesting. That's interesting. Are they willing to start a world war before this election? What are they willing to do? What are they not willing to do? Well, maybe a world war gets started because they don't want Trump in office. Maybe someone else starts it. I'm wondering how far they're willing to go. I'm also wondering how other countries like you just said might take advantage. Yeah, maybe they would take advantage of this.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Because they know that's the best way to keep Trump from being the president. If Trump is promising all these embargoes and all this different shit that he's going to do to China and everything he's going to do around the world. If I was in another country and I'd be like, we don't want that. No. Like escalate things, you know, right around October invade Taiwan, take that over. Yeah. See what happens. I mean, that's the thing. A lot of people are thinking that there is a possibility that you see somebody makes a move. Yeah. You know, but what a better
Starting point is 01:15:18 time? What better time to make a move than the chaos of us right now? Right. You got a choice between, you know, what the Democrats keep calling a convicted felon, you know, convicted felon. He's a convicted felon. And they, you know, there's been all this talk about repeating that over and over again. Right. Like make sure we get that message out there. No one cares. No one cares. Convicted felon. Yeah. I mean, it's just such a stupid thing. Well, he's got a lot of people voting for him now that wouldn't have voted for him before. There's a lot of people I think that are also seeing the, you know, it would be one thing. I mean, listen, I have no nothing good to say about Gavin Newsom. But if you had a guy that was had his faculties could speak, yeah, was of a reasonable age
Starting point is 01:15:59 or whatever could gaslight better, could gaslight better. But the fact that you have this guy who's so old that to me does suggest for whatever reason, they're terrified of replacing him with someone else. I do not know why. I don't know why. But it feels like whoever running things right now is does not want to, does not want anybody coming in and looking under the hood. Yeah. Right. It does feel like that. I could be wrong. Like if you you're in business with someone they won't let you look at the why are they killing Assange? Every day. Why are they? Torturing and killing Julian Assange. What are they? What did Julian Assange unleash? That has made them
Starting point is 01:16:40 Do this to him where they're slowly and methodically killing him in front of everybody. Well, they can't stop now. Right? Right. They've been doing it for so long. They can't stop now because then he becomes a martyr with no consequences. And the same people go and talk about Alexei Navalny and try to get you to be upset that Vladimir Putin, which made no sense. Why would Putin kill a guy who was now? I'm not saying Putin's an angel, but Navalny was never a threat to Putin in any way He was in a Siberian prison and that week that we were having that vote about 60 billion for the Ukraine
Starting point is 01:17:15 Putin kills his biggest critic publicly. That's insane. That makes no sense to anybody and What do you think happened? Well, if I had to guess, there's two ways. And Alexei Navalny might have just died. People can't just die. But it seems like if there was any group of people that had a benefit from Alexei Navalny dying when he did, it's not Russia. It would be us. If we're trying to pass into a country that's a little war weary and a little tired and going, we don't really need wire witness. What is the end game in Ukraine? What does it look like? How much money should we be
Starting point is 01:17:58 kicking over there? We're trying to pass that bill, get that through Congress. We have to portray Vladimir Putin as a monster who's unwilling to negotiate. We have to do that. In order to fund that war, we have to present him as a guy who's hell bent on taking over Europe and that war is in our vital national security interest. And the more we can paint him as that person, the better it is and the more likely we are to be able to pass that bill. And it's just very weird if he wanted to get rid
Starting point is 01:18:36 of Alexei Navalny that he would have done it then. But wasn't that guy in a terrible prison? And he wasn't he? He was in a bad prison. And I mean, obviously Putin hated him Obviously Putin hated him like wouldn't hated him But Putin they had tried to poison him already the FSB had already tried to poison Navalny So why wouldn't you think they just did it again? Why why what would be the point? He's in that prison. They want him dead Because Putin just wants him dead the week the week that the week that America
Starting point is 01:19:07 wants him dead. The week that America... Alexei Navalny never had widespread support in Russia, by the way, this is not true. He had certain people that liked what he was doing. He never had widespread support in Russia. This is a Western narrative that's cooked up that's completely untrue. Alexei Navalny started his life as a guy who would criticize Jews, he had a lot of fascist tendencies. And then after a little trip to Europe and maybe meeting with, I don't know, who knows? Who knows who people meet with? He decided to go back to Russia with a very pro-Western attitude and he changed course.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I'm not saying why people do that. People see the light in all different ways. The point is, the guy's in a Siberian prison, America's about to pass a huge bill. If you're the president of Russia, are you killing him that week? That just to me is a question. How did he die? What are they saying? But now they said something recently, they said they found that he wasn't killed. They said they came out with something they conducted.. Now I don't know, you know, I don't know who's conducting this, whether it's a human rights watch or an international. You're dying slow in jail no matter what. You know,
Starting point is 01:20:12 if you're in a Russian jail. Yeah, you're in a Russian jail. What are you eating? And I'm not saying Navalny wasn't a patriot or whatever, but I'm just saying that like the idea that killing him, you know, maybe the guy did love Russia. I don't know. Maybe the guy was an egomaniacal guy who just wanted to lead. He wanted to be the leader. Maybe he was working with us. I don't know. But if you just look at it from a logical standpoint, it's weird that they killed him that week. That's strange to me. Does it make any sense? Interesting. I don't know enough about it to comment. I would imagine if you wanted the guy dead.
Starting point is 01:20:46 That should never limit any of us. How did he die? Sudden death syndrome. Given notice of a dead Navalny's spokesperson, Kira Yarmish said the time of his death, notice at 2.17 p.m. local time when Alexi's lawyer and mother arrived at the colony this morning They were told that the cause of Navalny's death was sudden death syndrome That's a yeah vague term for different cardiac syndromes that cause sudden cardiac arrest and death Yeah, maybe they just killed him
Starting point is 01:21:21 Listen, of course, they might like me right? I don't know unwell for a walk almost immediately losing consciousness. He also just might have died in a jail He might wait. How old was he? That's pretty young just dropped out of a heart attack. It's it's certainly possible that it killed him It's just all of these events That we're told All of these events that we're told very little about, you have to then just rest on your own. You go, well, I don't know. It's very possible they killed him.
Starting point is 01:21:50 I don't know. I don't live there. It's very possible they killed him. I like how you're thinking though. You're thinking like 4D chess. Well, no, I'm thinking like, you know, the way when he dies, people go, he was a big threat and Putin had to vanquish him. Was he?
Starting point is 01:22:04 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Does anyone consume Russian media or listen to Russian podcasts? I've listened to Russian podcasts. I hear the way Russians talk like, I know people that live there. We hear a lot of stuff and then there's what we hear and then what's happening. Doesn't mean that it's great. I'd rather live here.
Starting point is 01:22:24 But it does mean that this idea great, I'd rather live here, but it does mean that like this idea that there was a movement, like remember when the hot dog warlord guy, Purgosian was going through and everybody was salivating on social media being like, no, no, no, he's about to overthrow the Kremlin, it's going to happen. And it didn't happen. No, not if he did, he's a fucking warlord. He's a warlord, if he did, he's going to be worse. But it didn't happen because nobody has a fucking clue what's going on over there.
Starting point is 01:22:49 So it's just you have to, and then Assange, they're killing this guy in slow motion and then telling us how outraged we should be about Navalny. When Assange comes out, leaks a bunch of emails, we find out we're committing war crimes, we find out the CIA can remotely hijack your car, we find out that they can use all kinds of your smartphone features to record you, you know, all that stuff. He releases, I forget what it's called, Vault 7 or Vault 5, I forget what, I think it's 7, but I don't know, I forgot the name of the vault, but he releases all of these things. Troves of Clinton emails, you know, and I'm not saying pizza rich gets murdered Seth rich gets smart I'm not saying pizza gate was real but I've never in my life been like
Starting point is 01:23:32 We have 50 hot dogs ready for the guy when he come like no one talks like I don't know what they were talking About but no one's in pizza. No one has ever communicated like that No ever once those emails the most bizarre and pizza. No one has ever communicated like that. No. Ever once. Those emails. The most bizarre. Read those emails. Nobody has ever communicated like that ever ago. Well, I hope there's 50 hot dogs or something. The president's going to love some of these good hot dogs. Maybe we shouldn't have our hot dog parties at the White House. Things that are so crazy when you read them them you don't know you go this doesn't seem to be yeah doesn't seem to make any sense and
Starting point is 01:24:09 they're talking about kids and some of the kids and they're talking about weird shit it seems coded it seems weirdly coded it's like it seems so coded that I would assume that it's misinformation that it's fake that's probably that someone released it it's like who knows sort of a fake, but I don't think it is. I don't think it's ever been claimed I don't think it's ever been claimed to not have been their actual emails. It's very strange and they have these emails That are all very weird and strange Seth Rich gets killed and anybody who thinks that Seth Rich might have got murdered because of leaking to WikiLeaks even though Assange alluded to it right you're a conspiracy theorist you're a nut well wait a minute do you or do you not think that
Starting point is 01:24:55 sometimes people kill people yeah these people are crazy and you see a clear motive here you see a thing here that's a real big thing and no and if you at all, if you even question that at all, if you look into it at all, they left his wallet, they left his phone, they didn't steal anything from him. Was not a mugging. Just murdered him. Was not a mugging. It was a murder. You don't think that's weird? It's very strange. People call it was a bad area. It was whatever. Yes, but there was no economic crime happened. Like there you were. Not only that, they left his stuff
Starting point is 01:25:29 That's right. They shot him and just left whatever you had they left. It wasn't a robbery Yeah, give type persons gonna shoot someone you're gonna leave their money with them You had all of that happening at the same time that high up members of the national security apparatus in this country were coming out going We have information that the president of the United States is Is either working for Russia, conspiring, has conspired with Russia. Had girls pee on him. Had girls pee on him. They were accusing him of treason.
Starting point is 01:25:53 And I remember this. They were accusing the guy of treason. This was not like he got a blow job in the Oval Office. This was his, this is treason. And his supporters enabled a coup in our country backed by Russia None of that two years three years on TV and everybody repeated it everyone repeated it. No one has since apologized. Nobody has said we were wrong
Starting point is 01:26:17 Nobody has shown any Interest in getting to the bottom of how that happened. They cook up this fake steel dossier getting to the bottom of how that happened. They cook up this fake steel dossier, claiming all these things, the P tape, all that stuff. All of this intelligence ends up being, for lack of a better word, pretty unsourced. And the Clinton campaign paid for that dossier. So all of that stuff, unreal how corrupt,
Starting point is 01:26:41 now when you zoom out and you look, and then you go with this this old guy with dementia that they don't want to give up on and then you zoom out and you go oh maybe there is something else happening I don't know Jesus who the fuck knows you can only say this if you have these glasses yeah you feel better if you take them off you immediately become a normie and you can't and you feel nervous you feel nervous. You feel nervous. You start going, I like Biden.
Starting point is 01:27:07 I like that he's a family man, which someone said the other day. He's a good man. A family man. He's a good man. The family. The sons, the son right now, our president's son right now is in court trying to convince a judge that he was not smoking crack when he bought a gun. Is he the first guy to ever get arrested for that? I don't know. Judge that he was not smoking crack when he bought a gun mmm
Starting point is 01:27:25 Is he the first guy to ever get arrested for that? I don't know But that's such a funny thing that that's literally what this the son of the president's doing right now is he's They've got his ex-wife testifying Ex-girlfriend yeah, not just like yeah smoking he was saying smoking crack every hour on the hour Yeah, and then one of them I think his ex-wife or ex-girlfriend said she was witnessing him do it every 20 minutes, which is kind of impressive. How do you stay alive? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:51 You think about all the people that have died of overdoses, that guy's out there keep on trucking. That's right. Dropping accidental packages in the White House. Well, he's fit, he's kind of built for it. He's built to smoke crack. You know what I mean? He has fun sex, he can handle it like
Starting point is 01:28:07 Shane Gillis can handle beer absolutely some people can just handle stuff and you know I don't even want him to stop smoking crack I don't think he stopped sure and I hope he's sure they're all great they found coke in the White House you know I had a chance I had a chance to get him on the podcast. Oh Joe. I know early, early, early on when he was releasing a book before the laptop stuff for all the shit hit the fan. Oh, well then that might have sucked.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I don't know. I think I could have. You could have opened them up. Whenever they were, he was going to go on. I think they canceled all of it though. Yeah. I think when the shit started, it probably never would have happened because I think once things started going sideways I think he did a couple of interviews before things went completely sideways. I think it was because of a book It was before he was selling those Paintings yes an artist for like half a billion
Starting point is 01:28:59 soul Sensitive soul he lives in Malibu is an artist paintings are a crazy way to fun the fuck Absolutely, it's great money laundering scheme. It really is. It's the best. It's a great way to do it and you know, it's interesting It's like the CIA There's there's real evidence now the CIA was involved in Jackson Pollock. Oh, yeah, you know that right which makes sense because the paintings were terrible there not only were they bad but that right which makes sense because those paintings were terrible. Not only were they bad but all of that whole era of art they were kind of and that was
Starting point is 01:29:31 it was also like it was it also fucked with people's heads because people looked at those paintings going I could do that. Right easily. And capitalism only works if you have respect for the accomplishments of other people like you've got to be able to look at people and go I can't do that. Bro there's some work like that that is insanely expensive. Yeah, and it's just splatters and you like what what is this? Well, it's a great way to get over on the right people think rich people always get over It's not true rich people get beat all the time by other rich people
Starting point is 01:29:58 Oh, yeah, because they all agree that there are certain kinds of bullshit that they tolerate, and one of them is like, they buy this crap art that is like this modern art, that, you know, one was a blank canvas once that sold for 200 grand, like all this stuff. How much do you think that went for? Five million dollars. Tim, any guess? What is, is it Pollock?
Starting point is 01:30:22 Yeah. An original? No, no, it's not. It's not Pollock? I don't think so. Someone else? I'll show you the answer if I looked. I say five million dollars. I'll say, I'll say two million.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Three hundred million. Two weeks of the Ukraine War. That's two weeks of the Ukraine War. That painting. That is so crazy. Can we just give the Ukraine that and have them sell it? Can we just give them art like that and have them repurpose it? What is it?
Starting point is 01:30:49 William de Kooning. Oh, yeah. Okay, so it's 55. Is the head of the... in the middle of the CIA? Yeah, this is when they were doing this. So was this the American guy who did it? The CEO of Citadel bought it. Oh my God. What a fucking asshole. You know, you made a great point about chaos.
Starting point is 01:31:04 You just need a certain amount of chaos, and with this crap. It just starts driving people crazy Yeah, and I think that chaos ends up becoming the point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a factor You know, it's like noise like if you want to kill somebody turn up the music so no one hears them scream That's right. Yeah, so that's interesting when you see them really get involved in culture in the 60s Mm-hmm, and they are in Laurel Canyon. Mm-hmm. They're hate Ashbury. Oh, they were involved in everything They're working with everybody. You've had that guy on your show wrote that great book about Manson and all that stuff And they're they're they're involved with Colts. They're involved with everybody. That's actually the painting The one I had up that it showed was not the correct. Oh, this is the one that one still sucks That's 300 million. That's even less impressive. That's actually the painting the one I had up that it showed was not the correct. Oh, this is the one that one still sucks
Starting point is 01:31:46 That's 300 million. That's even less impressive. That's worse That one's less good if I bought the other one for $400. I'd feel better That's like something a guy like me picks out almost 27.6 Jesus that's right. It's a bowl Yeah, good lawyers is the same artist. I don't think so. So this guy What is the big deal about this guy? I didn't I don't know I just I was looking through another I was your garbage. This is a garbage painting the top 15 from 2020 and like I was like the very first one shows was the one I just showed you oh, but that's number 15
Starting point is 01:32:18 Yeah, and that's 27 million. Yeah, so this is the most expensive works of art. Oh look at this one How much is that piece of shit? Bro, that's something my daughter would have done when she was four. 28.7. 28. Yeah. What? It's fake.
Starting point is 01:32:34 What? Yeah. So this is money laundering. This is money laundering. Well, then there's Picasso. Picasso's actually kind of cool though. Look at that one. Let me see the Picasso one.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Look at this one. That's different. The Picasso one's kind of cool. But it's destroying the difference by elevating a lot of the other stuff. They're also muddying the waters. Look at this one. It different because the one's kind of cool but it's destroying the difference like it's by by elevating a lot of the other stuff they're also muddying the waters look at this one it's all blue yeah except that one line there's the line down the middle how much is that one thirty that's thirty million dollars this one's a black oh yeah red with a black square at the bottom 21 million dollars 31 this is insane oh that's a dinosaur though skeleton yeah that's pretty that's pretty Skeleton. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty dope. Well, that's fun
Starting point is 01:33:07 That's pretty dope that belongs in a Miami penthouse first floor I looked at a house in Beverly Hills when I was talking about living in Beverly Hills. Yeah, I had a dinosaur in it See that's cool by the dinosaur for like an extra million. The Persians are fun Yes, cuz they own those places. I have a dinosaur. There's one guy. There's one guy there that has white tigers in the backyard What he has he has like a white tiger thing in his backyard actual white tigers. Yes, you're allowed to do that. No So not allowed he's just balling. He doesn't care. He doesn't give a fuck and and and but it's kind of well known Well known that he has tigers Maybe not amongst the people that would it is now. Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:43 Maybe not amongst the people that would. It is now. Yeah. For sure. Now people go. What's the address? Oh, I don't know. I've never, they don't invite me. I'm gonna be standing there with the tiger. Did you ever see that show, The Shaw's of Sunset? Yes. It's all the rich Persians. Yes. Tarangeles. They call it LA. Tarangeles. Which is fun. There's something fun about those people. I like the gold and the gaudy and the glitter.
Starting point is 01:34:03 The wasps, to me, they're like the gold and the shawty and the glitter the wasps to me they're like the fading wasp Empire where they're loaded but they drive like a shitty beater car I don't like that and they wear loafers I like how you do it I like how I do it which is disgusting and vulgar and it shows people that money isn't even good right the way I live proves that money isn't even good. I buy things at the, or when I walk into these stores, I buy a dumb hoodie or something that looks crazy or a feathered coat or whatever. And people see me in it. They go, you know what? So what, so what we don't have a lot. Look at this idiot.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Capitalism needs people like me to go out and do things that are so buffoonish. It makes people go, you know what? This whole thing. Money ain't it. Right. Money ain't it. Let's just go to the lake. But it is something gross about I like when people that don't have money, because I never had money. And then at 37, I like had money at like 36. And then you do dumb shit. No one. My parents had no money. Yeah. and then you do dumb shit. No one my parents had no money
Starting point is 01:35:06 Yeah, no, no one's smart. It does what I do, but that's okay The only smart thing I've done is I have some houses so like I can't Pick them up and you know snort them or whatever like right, but nobody's Buys the kind of dumb sunglasses or dumb bentleys like nobody does that if they have a clue, right? But my parents my mother was a swim teacher and my father was a wine salesman They were good people, but we didn't know anything about money. We never learned about money We had no idea about money. So I just you know, I just when you get money You go I should do things like go to Beverly Hills and get like a very
Starting point is 01:35:46 shiny gross grotesque car Mmm, because that's what it is. That's all point of Beverly Hills. You get a nice car you drive up to one of these restaurants The valets park it They go. That's a nice car And then you just go. Thank you. That's the whole interaction. Thank you so much. Good. Thank you. You want to get that? Thank you You want to get the what you should tell them is you should tell them you should go I live in hell and then just walk In you should go I'm owned Because a lot of those people are you should just go if you're like at the margins. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:36:19 We really shouldn't have that car. That's right Oh, there's a lot of people out there living like that Well a real estate agent told me once that New York was a $50 million house cash and LA was a $50 million house with a $48 million mortgage. He said, people on the West Coast are just leveraged. The money's newer, it's different, it's not, you know, it's old I guess, so then people just, they're,
Starting point is 01:36:41 and there's more like keeping up with the Jones's attitude perhaps Well, LA is filled with that filled filled with that. That's all the whole thing. It's like fake it till you make it, right? It's the influencer culture. We're renting houses and cars That's right and taking pictures in front of them like blessed and now I think it's just not even fake it till you make it It's just fake it till you fake it. Yeah, just keep faking it. Yeah, just keep faking it You've got to make it fake it harder you fake it. Yeah, just keep faking it. Yeah, just keep faking it. You gotta make it fake it harder That's right. Yeah, and you know we were just talking about the average price of a home in LA. Is it California itself or LA?
Starting point is 01:37:13 California itself the average price of a home is 1 million dollars, which is absurd so crazy It's so crazy. That's so much money and and then the average income is like sixty thousand right? 62 is the average income yeah one million is the average home. It's unsustainable the whole but that's Yes, could you imagine the fucking fear that you would have if you had a one million dollar mortgage? And you made sixty thousand dollars a year work. What's worse about this whole thing, go look at the houses for a million bucks, they're dumps. Yeah. They're not even nice.
Starting point is 01:37:51 No. Like it's crazy what you don't get there. Right. You'd have to live in like Palmdale to get a nice house for a million dollars. You know what it is, it's pretty. California is the girl that's just hot and forever has been hot. But ruins your life. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I mean it's just pretty. It's stunningly beautiful. There are parts of it, like Montecito or Santa Barbara, you go up there and you go, this is so pretty. But everybody there's houses burned down four times. They're on their third divorce, there's been mudslides, there are kids in rehab, but it's pretty. A lady I looked at with a house up there. She died in a mudslide, the real estate lady that showed us the house.
Starting point is 01:38:28 This is what happens. But they'll tell you that in the way they talk. Santa Barbara, it's always sunset and have this voice. And they tell you the worst things about something in the very nice Conway. And they go, they go, this is beautiful. It's a remodel because it burned down and the family was in it. Not the sale, but it burned down and it's a remodel because it burned down and the family was in it. But it burned down and it's a remodel and they did a great job and the finishes are beautiful and you know you're not in the path of the mudslide. You're not in the direct path but you're in you know you're in an area that can have seismic activity.
Starting point is 01:38:57 We don't love that. You know the fire department and they got called on this like did the vegetation or something so that when the floods hit? Montecito was kind of spared like they tried and they got cold out of this Like the with the LA Fire Department or whatever was like they had to do certain things We're like they prioritize like that area over all the other areas Well, the problem is like the fire hits, the vegetation gets burned down, and then they get the mudslides
Starting point is 01:39:28 because they don't have anything protecting the erosion anymore. Right. Right. And that's what happened. They had a big ass fire up there which they have all the time. I mean when I lived in LA, where I lived, I was, we were evacuated three times.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Wow. Three times. One time it made me burn the fucking next door neighbor's house. Two of them. Just for clarity, it's by 2030 but it's still million. I hundred thousand. Oh now. I just saw okay only nine hundred grand. It's a bargain It's crazy. It's a bargain for someone to make sixty two thousand dollars a year Yeah, just imagine being in the hole like that. This is the whole problem because you can't make Even if you made sixty two thousand dollars a year and had zero expenses Right and didn't have to pay taxes,
Starting point is 01:40:06 it still is going to take you fucking forever to pay that off. You're never going to be able to pay it off. This is right before we build, we engineered this crisis. We chose, we allowed this to happen. We let foreign billionaires buy stuff. We let our own companies buy residential real estate. We let it all happen. And it's right before, we could enact laws, laws we could stop it anything that's happening could be stopped
Starting point is 01:40:27 But it's right before they start telling people okay live in a pod live in this pod This is right before they start introducing like okay. You know what's too expensive for you. Guess what we got here's the good news We've got and they're just gonna 3d printed housing everywhere in the middle of the desert The last one is funds, right? Funds buying up houses, residential houses, so they can just rent them out. Yeah, they're doing a lot now. They do it all the time. But I do feel like we are right there where it's going to get so bad, where they're just
Starting point is 01:40:54 going to start, whether it's 3D printing or whatever they're doing, where they're just going to have houses and go, here we go. Here we go. They're all together. They're all, you know, you're not great. You have a 15 minute city. There's no reason for you to go outside of your 15 minute city. You have it. You have a little park over here. Go to your park. And you're going to live in that and you're going to have an app and your whole life will be an app.
Starting point is 01:41:15 There'll be an app with your city. Everything will be on the app. Check in when you get outside the city. You won't need to own a car. You won't need to own a house. It'll be a countdown when you leave the 15 minutes that's right you have 40 hours that's right return and then climate change is gonna be the big reason they'll use they'll say because of climate we're limiting automobile ownership we're limiting this we're limiting that mm-hmm and that seems to be the next step. Yeah, that's a scary one. The climate thing's a scary one. Big time.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Because they're using it just like they use everything else. And you have to be a good person, so you want to support climate change. You want to support the measures. You want to do your part. You don't want to be a psychopath. We've got to kill these cows. They're making methane. These people are bad people, you know, that are doing these things like leaving their home
Starting point is 01:42:06 They're sick. Do you want to be sick? That's inevitably I think what happens is all of these because all of these things are it's a it's a crisis. That's not This is not organic right. It's not organic that all of these cities are being bought up None of this was inevitable all All of this could have been stopped. And it is right now not being stopped. Average income 62,000, average house 900,000, and they respond to that. And then what happens when automation takes over 80% of the jobs? Then they've got to do the world war. Then they got to get
Starting point is 01:42:42 rid of everybody. Or a lot of people. Do you think when automation takes over, there's some sort of a massive decrease in population? Do you think they they provide universal basic income? What do you think they do? I don't know what they do. I think that it seems like right now they're preparing for a world war. That genuinely if you if you were to zoom out and read the news dispassionately, like without wanting any answer to come float to the surface, it seems like they are preparing for a world
Starting point is 01:43:14 war. Every article is like conflict with China inevitable within five years, say many generals. Every article, every national, every leak, Pentagon leak is US readiness needs to be, you know, within five years a conflict is inevitable, you know. The draft, you know, military times, we should bring the draft back. Like, you know, Europe, the future of Europe is in doubt. So the military times said that? Yeah, certainly recently they had a article arguing, I believe, for the return of selective service, for the
Starting point is 01:43:50 draft. And it's definitely something that it's being talked about. You know, Germany talked about it recently because of the Ukraine-Russia thing. And there's this idea now that, yeah. Lawmakers move to automate selective service registration for all men. New plan from the House lawmakers would automatically register men for potential military draft when they hit 18, avoiding potential legal consequences connected to failing to file the paperwork at the proper time. Jesus Christ. Mandate automatic registration
Starting point is 01:44:27 of all males between 18 and 26 living in America in the Selective Service System, a federal database used for a military draft in case of national emergency. Oh, ha ha. Oh, that's fun with the male male part. Yeah What about trans men? Try to write about them trans men or men get them in yeah time to be men now. That's what I'm saying Let's go so it does seem like they're preparing for something And it does seem like It's weird. It's weird. There's a weirdness in the air. 100%. There's a weirdness in the air. Yeah, this is late-stage civilization vibes. For sure.
Starting point is 01:45:12 That's what it is. We got late-stage civilization vibes no matter how we slice it. We might make it through this. Yeah. We might look back at this. I hope we do. Tim and Joe were so crazy. Yeah. They're making a big deal out of it. Nothing happened. Or this could be one of those things that people play if you can find a power source. I saved it on my phone Yeah, let's watch they were talking about well It's also like what scares me more than anything is the people who aren't feeling this way Did you see what they did where they gave? Starlink internet to ask tribe in the Amazon and they all start jerking off. I talked about it on my show this week
Starting point is 01:45:45 They're addicted to porn and social media Instantly and they overnight the elders tribe elders are freaking out because they lose in control Yeah, they thought it was gonna be great at first, but now everyone's lazy. No one wants to work They all just flip into their phones all day. They're in the jungle and they're going through their truck is at first It's great to look look a picture of a flower. Yeah. And then three days later, it's like, there's guys watching women get choked and kicked and whatever, and now they're losing control.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Yeah, and they're on TikTok all day. And that's what you look at, you go, you go all of the, that's why it's so important that the tech people all be on the same page for the most part, because that's the way you lose control the quickest. And it seems to be very important and somewhat engineered, maybe not top down, but somewhat coincidental that 90% of the tech people are all on the same page about most things.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Those are the type of people though, they're all ideologically captured That's right the left the tech is all the left There's some libertarians but very few very few You know the rebels to have those people in charge of everything It's just so but it was weird because we we had Republicans and Democratic bankers for a long time and no one really cared But there's something with the tech people where it's like we can't it seems like they don't want to let where it's like, we can't, it seems like they don't want to let there be any diversity in thought with that group because they're, they, the levers they hold are too consequential. But they were that way before the levers were consequential. Sure.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Except for Microsoft, right? If you think about Microsoft, they were like liberal, but not financially. Like they were very, very shrewd financially. They're all liberal if you can be liberal and have a $25 million house in Atherton, California. If that's part of it, and I think that's part of the way we've designed liberal in America, then. Well, they're just so removed.
Starting point is 01:47:41 They're very removed from the consequences of what they're interested in. And when you talk to them, you do get the feeling that they are fully in, they fully believe and for good reason that they control the country now. Yeah and they think they should. That's right. Because they're the smart ones and they're on the right side. That's correct. And we have to do everything we can. Yeah. And so when they complied with the government, you know, when they eliminated things from social media that were problematic to the
Starting point is 01:48:12 narrative, whether it was on YouTube or Twitter or whatever they did, like they thought they were doing the right thing and that they should be doing this because the people they these people are stupid. I think everyone thinks they're doing the right thing. And I think the thing that surprises me the most is how a lot of those people, those positions of power aren't cynical. They aren't, you know, you really would like them to just go, yeah, it's all bullshit.
Starting point is 01:48:34 We're doing what we have to do. You'd almost rather that, but they truly believe. They believe. They believe in what they're saying. They really do. They do, and I think that's if you're a deep cover CIA agent, you believe. I think that's if you're in the deep cover CIA Agent you believe I think if you're high up in the military you believe I think you're in the tech
Starting point is 01:48:51 Industry you believe I think no matter where you are you believe because so much of your identity Becomes dependent on that. Yes for sure Yeah, also like I experienced that when I was working on a television show when people people used to try to tell me, oh, the government is programming it, and they're programming these shows to make these shows so that we're stupid. And people would believe that. I'm like, you don't understand. The people making these shows like these shows and watch these shows. They try to make these shows.
Starting point is 01:49:20 There's no one telling them to make these shows this way, other than the people that are saying this way this would make us money Right, that's all they're doing. That's right Like you you've got this idea that like this is like design like fear factors designed to make people stupid right? No, everybody had a good time the people making it had a good time the people making it watch those shows Yeah, like have you seen Survivor? They're out there watching them Well, they're all in the culture every time Sam Smith, you know Or just somebody dresses up like a devil or tries to do something
Starting point is 01:49:47 edgy, everyone talks about, well, this is like this engineered thing. And I'm like, listen, a lot of it is people are trying to get attention. A hundred percent. It's what they're trying to do. Especially Sam Smith. Right. And you can't be. And I talked about it when people were really enraged about it, and I'm like, if you are going to be a non-binary, different, I'm going to sell sex, you can't
Starting point is 01:50:15 look like my uncle. And that's what Sam Smith looked. And they were like, well no, he's a Satanist. I go, if Satan saw him and said, that's who's my representative on our, Sam Smith looks like my uncle at a Halloween party. He's drunk. That's what he looked like. It really does.
Starting point is 01:50:33 He looks like a guy like me or somebody I would have grown up with. No. So he doesn't have that Bowie thing. He doesn't have that sexy thing. I think it's far less they're putting messages into corrupt people. I think maybe's far less they're putting messages in to corrupt people. I think Maybe there's people that certainly do that. I think overall it's that
Starting point is 01:50:53 People are lazy and want attention. Yeah, it's a lot easier to get attention that way than to keep being good at something Dressing up like the devil is one of the best ways to get attention. That's right. It's one of the oldest ways. Remember the outrage for the little laws X video? Of course. Satan a lap dance. Yes. He had the blood.
Starting point is 01:51:13 And again, I'm not saying it's great for a five year old, but it's like focus more on the house as being a million bucks. Focus more on all that stuff because that's the stuff I think that in the long term. Focus more on the potential draft. Focus more on the potential draft. In the long term, that's what seems to matter. Yeah, but nobody is, you know, people are just so easily distracted by a good Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef. Sure. It's so easily, it's so exciting to have all these things happening all the time. It's fun. Yeah, it's fun It's just a weird fucking time that doesn't seem like it has any like any
Starting point is 01:51:52 There's no patterns that I could see from the past because everything's so accelerated by technology Like you look at the chaos of the 1960s I know they threw water on that in the 70s and the 80s was all cocaine and the 90s It took till like the 2000 the internet comes around for people start exploring some of the ideas that people were You know really connected to in the 60s. Yeah, but now here we are No roadmap no roadmap and everything is fucking chaotic. Everything's chaotic, but also maybe we'll get like a nice abatement
Starting point is 01:52:26 like maybe for whatever reason, it doesn't go in the direction that it seems like it's going. And that it has like a dead cat bounce. We're essentially, you know what I mean? We're like, you know, you get 20 or 30 years out of this place or more before, because you don't want a war and you don't want nukes to fly and you don't want all this stuff happening No, and you're you're doing all this while they can AI operate weapons now, including jets
Starting point is 01:52:56 fighter jets are used AI we have drones now that are Insanely common we probably have UFOs Sure, I think a good percentage of that shit these people are when do you when can you charter? UFO that'll be fun soon. You can charter private jet. You should be able to charter a UFO. Yeah There's already people that are doing SpaceX flights, right? Yeah, you can go you can leave our flat earth Wow, you can see the firm's fear Affirmament there should be a flat earth tour that will take you to space and only show you part of it Yeah, they should give you special glasses where it looks flat. My friend's mother's a flat earther
Starting point is 01:53:33 He goes, what is she? What does she do? I got he was how do we help? I got I don't know One of my friends Eddie Bravo thinks you're flat. Yeah, I love them to death. Yeah, what are you gonna do? He watches too many YouTube videos. There's quite a few people that think it's flat I love him to death. Yeah, what are you gonna do? He watches too many YouTube videos. There's quite a few people that think it's flat. The problem is, like, there's, it's a biblical thing. The lot of it is based on the depictions of earth and the firmament and all these different
Starting point is 01:53:53 things in the Bible, which, by the way, was written by people. This idea that people back then had it all laid out perfectly and that the Word of God was translated absolutely perfectly and nobody ever added their own special sauce to the mix like they do with everything. Jared Sussman Yeah, it's crazy. Pete Slauson Everything ever. Jared Sussman No, it's definitely interesting. And I think seeing the battle between these ancient texts and the most modern technology and seeing how they fuse together
Starting point is 01:54:25 Has is gonna make the planet very interesting sure ancient text together with YouTube. That's right. What is this Japanese billionaire? Pulls plug on private dear moon lunar starship mission, huh? Why about this just got announced this week? Well, how much money would it cost? I mean you go to the moon? Is that what the idea was? Yeah, they remember like Steve Aoki was gonna be on this. Oh, I was trying to tell Steve don't do that Yeah, it's this plan. Can't we go to the moon? No, no one's ever been. So how could we go? Well, there's got to be first person. Do you think people went to the moon? I have no idea I had Bart Sabrell on the podcast and do you think he knows? Yeah Do you know who he is? Yeah. Yeah, of course you do.
Starting point is 01:55:05 You're deep in the conspiracy world. Well, I'm deep in the truth. That guy's been on that forever. I had dinner with him like 20 years ago, at least. Somewhere around 20 years ago, I met with him in an Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills. And he was just laying out his case while the moon landing was big.
Starting point is 01:55:24 There was a book called Penet penetration by this guy, Ignacio Swan, who's one of these remote viewing guys. And that's what got me into that stuff. Like some of that more stuff. He wrote this book, and it was about remote viewing and how like the government was was using remote viewing. They definitely were trying to use it. They were trying to use it, whether they succeeded or not. But, you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Is it is it is it pretty accepted that we didn't go to the moon? No, no. I mean, it's controversial still.
Starting point is 01:55:52 It's amongst conspiracy conspiracy theorists amongst those folks. Yeah, none of those folks thinks we think we went to the moon. They think it was all horseshit. Some people think we went to the moon, They think it was all horse shit. Some people think we went to the moon, but we faked the footage. Because that's so us. Radiation of space. So us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:12 And also, such an us thing to do, to do it and then actually go fuck it. We got to film something. There's also like, there is precedent that they did use certain photos that were from obviously from training missions. And then they blacked out the background and tried to pretend these are photos of spacewalks. Because if someone's doing a spacewalk, there's one of, what's his name, Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, who's the other guy?
Starting point is 01:56:36 Glenn? Michael Collins. This is Michael Collins in the Gemini 15. And what they did was, but this could be overzealous PR people that are doing this, right? Sure. At NASA. They took a photograph of a mission where he was in a training mission and he's suspended by cables and they're teaching him how to use the spacewalk stuff. And then they reversed the image and blacked it out, blacked out the background.
Starting point is 01:56:59 See if we can find that. So those types of things give people an indication that there's a problem Well, they give you an indication that there's a pattern of deception. They're willing to lie that they're willing to at least Fuck with the truth for publicity purposes sure. I want good photographs of something Whistleblower yeah I'm sure so that's it So they took the photo on the left and then they just reversed it to the photo on the right and blacked out the screen So the one on the left obviously they're in training mission the one on the right. They're pretending its base
Starting point is 01:57:32 Which is pretty wild. I mean really fucking wild they did that that is wild. It's wild But it's then you know Boeing more whistleblowers came out More yeah, there's more whistleblowers two out. More, yeah, there's like 11 now. There's two more whistleblowers. Well, two of them were murdered, right? Well, yeah, but I love Boeing. Do you think they were murdered? Did they commit suicide? What happened to those folks? I think they were murdered.
Starting point is 01:57:53 What's the story? It was the official story about the two Boeing whistleblowers who got whacked. Boeing's a national security company. It's an American defense contractor. You're working for Boeing, you're working for the government. You come out and whistle blow, how does a fucking FBI like that?
Starting point is 01:58:08 They'll get rid of you too if you start in whistle blowing. What's the official cause of death for the two folks? I don't know, like I was sitting in his car. He shot himself. One was suicide. One was suicide because he was sad. I would be sad too if I disparaged a great company like Boeing. I love Boeing.
Starting point is 01:58:24 I've always loved Boeing. He probably realized, what have I done I disparaged a great company like Boeing. I love Boeing. I've always realized what have I done to this Great company probably sucked as a guy no whistleblowers aren't fun, right? There's never been a whistleblower. That's fun Maybe he was a fake whistleblower. He knew the house of cards was coming He was coming no pun intended. He pretty you probably went out with him and he always talked about how unsafe these planes were and you're like Dude, shut up, right? Shut up. I'd fly all the time. a lot of people do he's basically like a flat-earther. Oh, yeah I don't want to know how bad the planes are let them crash let one of them. Here's the deal I know one's gonna fix it So just don't bother me if the Boeing whistleblowers still want to talk safety fears despite to informants dying after speaking out
Starting point is 01:59:01 Don't kill 50 of them to don't think they. 50 people can commit suicide if they're wrong. 50 people can absolutely commit suicide. Especially if they're disparaging a great company like Boeing. What does it say here? John Barnett, 62, a quality control engineer, just begun testimony in a lawsuit against Boeing in March when he was found in his truck at a South Carolina motel with a fatal self-inflicted gunshot wound. Yeah, that's a little fishy.
Starting point is 01:59:27 Joshua Dean, 45, died unexpectedly in early May. The quality auditor at Spirit Aero Systems, one of Boeing's biggest suppliers, passed away in the hospital following the onset of a fast-moving infection. Yeah, they can do that to you. Sure. They can do that to you. They can give you an infection. Absolutely. They certainly can shoot you in the head They can do all of that. Yeah, they could definitely shoot you in the head and their their attitude is like hey, you know Can you can you not? Fuck up our thing. Yeah, we're trying to fix it. We don't need you whistle-blowing. We're trying to fix it
Starting point is 02:00:02 You're not helping. Yeah, what are you doing? You're killing yourself? You want attention? Do you think there's a like James Lindsay has a very interesting take on this he thinks that China? is They they own a competitor to the Boeing planes I think the strategy is to destabilize Boeing and have the Chinese planes take over. So they're killing the whistleblowers? No, there's some sort of a push to get this Chinese jet company to get their products,
Starting point is 02:00:33 they're more safe, they're better. Let's just take those. Maybe, but Boeing is so deeply enmeshed in the national security apparatus, I can't see that ever happening. Right. There's no way that we... But if you wanted to do something like that,
Starting point is 02:00:46 how would you do it? You would fuck with the safety protocols. I mean, we do depend on too much for national security. We do depend on too many things from China already. Oh, yeah. Like medicine. Like all of that. Like not only medicine, but like chips.
Starting point is 02:01:03 You know, what's that thing that... What are they doing? Is it reactors? Or what do they bought? What are they? What are we they basically said? We're not selling you these anymore Well, they're in charge of so many the mines. That's right You know so many the mines in the Congo are being run by China So I don't I don't know if we'd be so stupid to just start buying all their stuff. But maybe Hmm possibility China's homegrown 737 competitor has to wait a while to fill the vacuum left by Boeing. Europe says the COMA Comac.
Starting point is 02:01:34 C19. C19 is too new to approve by 2026. So they have their own version. So if they're playing a long game, what better way to destabilize the competitor than just, listen, we need to save money. Let's cut back on some of these safety inspectors and have the mechanics do their own safety inspection.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Done. We're done. We're good. But that little piece in place, if you just did that, and you just take into account people's laziness and how people suck at their job already, and then there's no oversight for the mechanics, what's the possibility that mistakes gonna be made a hundred percent? Yeah? well corporate espionage is probably one of the their strongest talents and One of the things they've excelled at imagine. That's how they do it though. Yeah, if Lindsey's right when he said that to me
Starting point is 02:02:18 I was like Jesus might be right He might be right. I just don't want to sit in a plane and be fucking nervous. Oh, yeah for no reason Yeah, so I want to ask I want the Boeing people to shut their fucking mouths Let this thing go down the runway Let me feel like it's okay And if it happens it happens, you know what the ultimate conspiracy theory is Yeah that Trump has a Boeing plane and that's why they're doing this whoa I got you without that something why that one guy excited that isn't just imagine that imagine that's what they did what do you do what
Starting point is 02:02:57 happens if he dies I imagine that I don't know raises are gonna be if he gets whacked I mean I don't know if they're gonna do that. I think they're gonna try to go to war with China. I think they're gonna go to war somehow. I think they're gonna, if they are gonna do anything, I think they just fucking try to do something that either delays an election or makes an election harder to have or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:03:28 But if they were going to do something, it might have been, it might be that. And I don't know. And they may do nothing. They may just, you know, have a fair election. I don't know. Anyway, I don't know. But this is the question. This is what we were talking about earlier.
Starting point is 02:03:42 If they're willing to deceive us with the Steele dossier They're willing to deceive us with what they did with Bernie and yes What they what they did with RFK? Yeah, and the primary if they're willing to do all that Why would we think that they wouldn't fuck with the election like this is the one thing that they wouldn't fuck with and then if you? Question it at all. Yeah, especially Trump because nobody really cared when everybody else questioned the elections, right? Nobody cared when Hillary went around forever questioning the elections. Nobody cared every everybody has questioned elections in this country for a very long time Standard move Bush v. Gore Yes, it's kind of a standard move
Starting point is 02:04:21 It's been getting more and more It's kind of a standard move. It's been getting more and more malevolent in the sense that, you know, people, you know, after Trump won, it was a whole thing with Russia. And then I don't know, I haven't looked at any specific evidence for the fuckery, but I think there's probably fuckery all over the place. There's probably fuckery in every election. There's got to be some. It's not zero.
Starting point is 02:04:41 The amount of election fraud isn't zero. This one, they have to do something big. This one will have to be, if something's going to happen, it's probably going to have to be something big. They're going to have to wag the dog in such a way that America's like, whoa. And there are already some articles coming out being like, whoa. And there are already, there's some articles coming out being like, you know, could a foreign government perhaps take advantage of, you know.
Starting point is 02:05:11 So who knows what their plan, I just know that they don't want him in in a way that I've never seen. Never, never. It's never been more transparent. It's never been more transparent how much they do not want him in And I'm not even saying that
Starting point is 02:05:28 You can't criticize him or you have to love him or anything. I'm just speaking Simply again from looking at the measures taken since he announced a candidacy and here's what's really crazy Yeah, I think they thought they did enough propaganda wise before 2016 for him to lose. So when you watch all the news reports and all the coverage, it was like 90% Hillary was going to win. That's right. And then as the night went on, everybody was like, holy shit, he won. So they went through the egg on their face.
Starting point is 02:06:00 They went through all that. They're not going to let that happen again. And now, he's an overwhelming favorite. Yes. Like he's a favorite. If the election happened now and the election was fair, he would win. Right? Yes. Like he's several points ahead of Biden, right? What's the latest polls? Because he went up in the polls after the conviction. Which was such a mistake for them to try to do that because he raised $40 million, something like that. No, it's way more than that now.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Maybe more. I think it's like 100 million. It crashed his campaign website. Yeah. Yeah. What is that poll? How do they question everybody real quick? Like when some news breaks, what do you think now?
Starting point is 02:06:39 Right, who do they question? At 6 PM, how do they get a new update? I always say this. They're only getting results from people dumb enough to answer polls. So that, by the way, is a skewed response. For sure. Polls in today's day and age,
Starting point is 02:06:52 there's no reason to answer them. Why are you doing that? But there's also a social stigma to saying Trump. Oh yeah. So I think that you have to weigh the numbers like that. Right. So there is a little bit of a social stigma to saying Trump. Mm-hmm. Or certainly there was. Maybe it's going away, but there was. So you
Starting point is 02:07:09 might want to weight the poll to that as well. That's a hundred percent true. And go there's a certain percentage of people that are lying in saying Biden who aren't gonna vote for Biden. Right. So a close race might really mean that Trump is up a few percentage points. I think he's up a few percentage points already. I think he was up like six points. I talked to a lot of hardcore leftists that are like really resigned to him winning and don't care because they say, well, they said we did not vote for Biden to go to war with Ukraine, you know, to go to war with Russia through Ukraine.
Starting point is 02:07:44 We didn't vote for Jack up inflation, jack up inflation. We didn't vote for an unending commitment to whatever Israel wants to do in Gaza. We didn't vote for house prices being higher than they've ever been. Interest rates being higher than they've ever been. We didn't vote for any of that. He's done a lot for the environment, Biden, supposedly. But also a lot of people didn't vote for all the taxes that come along with that. What is the new one they're doing?
Starting point is 02:08:10 They're going after the guy from the Epoch Times. For embezzlement or something? Epoch Times is a hardcore right-wing side. Which is hilarious. Epoch Times is hilarious. That is very funny. This is the end. Welcome to the end.
Starting point is 02:08:25 Welcome to the end. Money laundering. Yeah, charges alleged $67 million global money laundering scheme. So what's, see, this is the headline, right? What's the actual story? What's a good place to go? Probably AP is probably the more balanced. Go to AP, just for the fuck of it.
Starting point is 02:08:44 All right. What will become of the Epoch Times as chief financial officer accused of money laundering? Okay. What is the accusation? What is Epoch Times? Do federal prosecutors in New York charged? Boy, say that dude's name. Weidong Guan of Secaucus, New Jersey, chief financial officer of the Epoch Times of steering at least $67 million in criminal proceeds, much from fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits to the company, its affiliates and himself. Guan pleaded not guilty, but was suspended by the Epoch Times, which agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.
Starting point is 02:09:19 The case falls into question the future of a company that was a key online supporter of Trump and a spreader of conspiracy theories hmm, so what is the 67 million dollars of Unemployment that's what it's saying How do they do it? How'd they do that? What is it? This is all just like what does it mean for the for the epoch times?
Starting point is 02:09:42 But what is like how did he do it? They don't say what they're accusing them of the accused enough of stealing money stealing money launder my laundry money I guess and that's you think the top executive epoch so he's just a guy that worked there a right-wing media company has been Arrested and charged with laundering at least 67 million dollars installed so he might have actually done it and they might just mean They're not trying to close the company right? He's not though. He's just the chief financial officer Right right so he might have actually done it I don't know chief financial officer was arrested Monday and the indictment, headed up on May 23rd, was unsealed, he entered a plea of not guilty
Starting point is 02:10:27 as lawyer, federal public defender. Why does he have a public defender? I guess he lost all his money. That seems crazy. Is that how it works? That seems crazy. Declined to comment, if convicted, Mr. Guan faces a maximum sentence of 20 years for the money laundering charge and 30 years for each bank fraud. Oh, geez, he's fucked. Epoch Times affiliated with Falun Gong, a spiritual movement banned in China and was for years an obscure free print newspaper dedicated largely to criticizing the Chinese Communist Party.
Starting point is 02:11:04 In recent years, the outlet transformed itself into a prominent supporter of Donald J. Trump and his allies on the right. Oh, they're probably grifting. It's probably a grift. They're trying to make a couple of bucks. It's a grifty company. Yeah. According to prosecutors, Mr. Guan ran a sprawling transnational scheme over four years to buy
Starting point is 02:11:23 prepaid debit cards on the internet at a discount using cryptocurrency And then deposit the cards money into both personal and company accounts the debit cards were loaded with illegally obtained funds Prosecutors said some of which was fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits Wow, this seems deep Whoo, but I mean how long gone but please, because if you're a fucking type of dude who has a website that's basically dedicated to criticizing the Chinese Communist Party, and then all of a sudden you flip and become a pro-Trump supporter, that sounds to me like
Starting point is 02:11:58 one of those fucking Facebook pages that Russia takes over. They used to have a memes page. And then it's a Black Lives Matter page and then it becomes a trans rights page Yeah, they're just there's a ton of those folks out there grifting if one of those guys was also involved in an illegal money laundry Yeah, that seems like go and show some chaos. That's probably what they do. Go show some chaos. It's a great job I'd like to do it in China for us. I Mean if they're hiring these, why can't America, let's get an army of lunatics, people like me, send me into China, I'll start a problem.
Starting point is 02:12:31 They'd kill me quickly. Yeah, you couldn't do it there. That's why we lack the advantages, because you could come here and really start some shit. Do you think that our government is doing that here too? I think elements of it probably are for sure. They have to be. They have to be. Why? They must be. If China is doing that and we know that Russia is doing that, if we know that
Starting point is 02:12:54 they're doing that. Well then what would Navalny have been? Let's think about this, right? Now Navalny might be, he might be a great Russian patriot who was discussable Vladimir Putin but I do know we started his career with very different views than the views he began espousing after. He seems like a guy that the CIA has a conversation with and then becomes a prominent crowd. I'm not saying that it's possible. But so we're doing things like that, probably. And then they're doing things to us where they're like, making my aunt kind of more racist. They're starting with a pretty racist person, but they're twisting her and
Starting point is 02:13:41 they're getting her more racist. With memes? With memes and with all kinds of crap. Things they share that might not even be true. Yeah, she's like a Long Island, because these Long Island boomers now, they're just, they're like, they're just with throwing stuff at them and they're just like catching it with their teeth like a dog. They share it to their on our Facebook. Share it and they don't know what's going on. And they're just kind of like, it's all, you know,
Starting point is 02:14:06 it's all not my mom's, my friend's mother thinks McDonald's is serving human meat. So that's where we are, you know, a certain percentage of the population is schizophrenic because they can't handle all the stuff we talked about here. It's hard for people to realize how corrupt things are, but how they've always been. So if you learn all of this in an hour, your mind melts.
Starting point is 02:14:28 And then you start going, is Chrissy Teigen a vampire? Because every other sec, up is down and black is white. Yeah, there's too much information. It's too much information. But if you know about JFK or RFK or Martin Luther King or Quintelper, anything, you have the context to put a lot of this stuff in. So you're not like, oh, your mind doesn't melt immediately. It melts slowly.
Starting point is 02:14:56 Real slow. Yeah. Yeah, if you just can keep people fighting about everything and everything being something that they have to uncover and all this chaos, you can get a lot done behind the scenes. You need to. You have to have people completely scattered, have no... Yeah, you can't have people like calm.
Starting point is 02:15:15 No. And everybody fine and paying attention to what you're doing. And then you gotta bless it. You gotta go every now and then you gotta go, you know, and then there's like an NFT party, everybody has like a time when the crypto is killing it, and everybody gets a little money, and then they go, okay, well, we got to clamp down on this.
Starting point is 02:15:31 Right. And then the internet's free, and then like, man, let's clamp down on this. And it's just, they oscillate between clamping down on things and then letting people run with them for a little bit. God damn it. Yeah, it's a delicate balance.
Starting point is 02:15:44 You imagine being in charge of chaos. Oh. Yeah, it's a delicate balance. You imagine being in charge of chaos. Oh, is it you think there's a guy that's like runs a chaos department in the deep state? Well, I think there's a good there's many guys that do and ladies. And do you think let's not forget them. What is their view of the world? If they're the ones that are instigating all this chaos and they're the ones that are fueling it online if they're working to actively do that and comment on things on Twitter and Get things crazy
Starting point is 02:16:11 What is their view of the world? I think so cynical I think the the only view those people have ever had is the alternative is worse Right if we don't think that's the only view they've had. I think when they were doing MK Ultra on people, I think they were going the alternative is worse. It's worse. And you can justify a lot of things. When they were carpet bombing Vietnam, it's the alternative is worse. I think that's kind of the only view that those guys can have in that echelon of the national security apparatus, they can't, I don't think they're analyzing it too much outside of that. Jesus Christ. This is not leaving me feeling good, Tim. I was hoping to be more... Well we're going to tell jokes tonight.
Starting point is 02:17:00 Tonight should be fun. It's such fun to tell jokes. Are you splitting your time? You're all over the place now? I'm all over the place. Tonight. Tonight should be fun. It's fun to tell jokes. Are you splitting your time? You're all over the place now? I'm all over the place. I spend most of my time in the French protectorate in Monaco, where I find honest people. And it's so good to have honest people around you. I'm very susceptible to environments.
Starting point is 02:17:22 There's a lot of people that live on boats. No, no, no. I'm all over the place. You know, me and Sam Talent were just in Europe for like three weeks. It was amazing. I'm here. Sam was just here. I'm gonna spend a lot of time here, I think,
Starting point is 02:17:31 in the summer and fall because now I'm off the road. So it's like, I'm gonna be here. I'll be popping in LA a little bit. Nice. You know, I'll be around. We're doing something cool with Netflix. We can't say it. It's not a standup special.
Starting point is 02:17:42 It's something cool. It's like an election type special thing. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah. It's not a stand-up special something cool. It's like an election type special thing. Oh That's exciting. Yeah, it's it's you know, it'll be fun and I'm excited about that and you know It's just fun to do fun stuff and who knows we don't know. Yeah, it's fun. It could all Work out It could all work out. It probably will all work out. That's right I mean you can look back on there's a Assyrian tablet, I think yeah fucking
Starting point is 02:18:10 4,000 years ago or something like that where I'm seeing I'm pretty sure I saved it where they were talking about the end of the world Yeah They got saved it it's just one of those things it's like human beings always have that feeling that it's all falling apart They always have that feeling that at a certain point in time all of our luck's gonna run out and it has. That's the other thing. Like it actually at one point in time- It is a great Eddie Pepitone joke where he goes, you know, every generation thinks theirs
Starting point is 02:18:37 is the one where the world ends. He goes, but we are right. Here it is. Assyrian clay tablet dating to around 2800 BC bears the inscription, our earth is degenerative in these later days. There are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Bribery and corruption are common. Children no longer obey their parents. Every man wants to write a book. What happened? I was trying to get the full quote the... What happened? But I had it right there. And the end of the world is evidently approaching. That's amazing. So this is like, this is a good way to end this. To just explain to people. This fear that we have had is just, we are in a constant state of change and a constant battle of truth and propaganda and it's always been that way and that this tablet from 4,800 years ago and it'll always be that way it's always gonna be it's always
Starting point is 02:19:35 gonna be we're monkeys we're crazy monkeys so find find something fun out there to do yeah like come to the mothership if you can come to the mothership and not this weekend it's soldhip and and not this weekend. It's sold out Are you here this weekend? I'm here this week. Oh shit. I'm here weekend I'm here, baby. I'm in that's exciting. So we're gonna do following gong Yeah, it's pure Chinese spiritual warfare. If you like Chinese spiritual warfare These shows will be for you the text message. I'm gonna be sending you in the future gonna green oh you're going to yeah I'm gonna try to I'm trying to switch over you're going to Android I'm gonna see what I don't like being trapped I fell it goes trap I got a guy I don't like it either I get anxiety
Starting point is 02:20:17 about switching when I see like crazy when that green text message comes in it's gonna be so weird though but it it is weird. The whole thing, it's weird that we're so trapped in this wonderful Apple bubble. They do a great job, make a great phone. It's a great phone. Everything works great, it's great. I love the way you can send videos and AirDrop people and FaceTime people, I love it.
Starting point is 02:20:38 But I also don't like- But you gotta have the new charger all the time. Well no, not anymore, now it's USB-C. Everything's USB-C. Because Europe is actually forcing Apple to comply. You gotta have the new charger all the time. Well, no, not anymore. Now it's USBC. Everything is USBC. Because Europe is actually forcing Apple to comply. All of these social media sites, or whatever it is, Apple's not social media. But all these tech companies, they have downsides.
Starting point is 02:20:58 And then they have things that are really good. Facebook had things that were really good. But they also sell maids in the Philippines. I was watching. There was an Instagram page that was all really good. Facebook had things that were really good, but they also sell maids in the Philippines. I was watching, there was an Instagram page that was all dedicated to finding people in prison that you could date when they get out. Thank God. Thank God. I was looking at it like how many people who are just like Captain Sabajo are just at home
Starting point is 02:21:23 looking at these people going It's a redeemable country meet an inmate lonely inmates in the u.s. Seek pen pals I just typed in hot single inmates They're like making like a singles video Well, there's got to be guys and gals that are interested in that like that's their thing I love a person. I get someone right look they can't they don't know where to stay they can stay with me Yeah, meet a hot prison pal. You'll be glad you did exclamation point Well, if you want to meet people that have been in jail come to one of my shows
Starting point is 02:21:58 And there's a very good chance is a high likely. We all meet them. Yeah high likelihood All right, let's wrap this bitch up. You're the best. Thank you. You're the best. Thank you. Appreciate you. I'm gonna come see you this weekend. I'm excited.
Starting point is 02:22:14 I hope so. I wanna see your set. Thank you, buddy. Tell everybody. Don't tell me which night. I'll be nervous. Okay, I won't. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 02:22:22 It's just Tim J. Dillon. It's Tim Dillon Show. Tim J. Dillon, right? On Instagram. Tim J. Dillon on Instagram and X. And then the Tim Dillon Show, if you like, podcasts where people yell. It's the best. You're the best ranter on earth. Well, that's very sweet of you. Your show, you by yourself talk about things is one of the great joys in life. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:22:41 My pleasure. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye-bye.

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