The Joe Rogan Experience - #2162 - Tim Dillon
Episode Date: June 11, 2024Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Tim Dillon: A Real Hero," is available on Netflix. Look for his book "Death by Boomers: Ho...w the Worst Generation Destroyed the Planet, but First a Child" in 2024. www.timdilloncomedy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You get it.
I get it.
I get the whole thing.
You see how powerful you feel?
Yeah, you feel like you can talk shit, like you're in another dimension.
All the things that you do, like working out and succeeding, you don't need to really do
a lot of that.
If you put these on, you get a lot of the effects of like you're being a trained fighter
and all that crap.
If you just put these on, you kind of get the idea of that until someone calls you out
and kills you.
Yeah, you got to avoid like actual conflict.
You got to run away.
But you do feel superior to people
Oh for sure like you have a suit on or something. Yeah
It keeps you away
There's a distance between you and other people now that must be why celebrities wear them when they go out
Probably like like we'll see like at concerts or UFC fights. You'll see celebrities with full-on sunglasses
Interesting. Yeah at concerts or UFC fights you'll see celebrities with full-on sunglasses interesting yeah they're like a cat hiding underneath the chair and the
tails hanging out like you can't see me that can see you stupid yeah no people
they do give you some and a lot of people I guess are on drugs yeah that's
probably what and then their eyes are bugged out of their head I just think
they're trying to avoid eye contact with people because then people yes give them a script
Yeah, I think that's true. They just don't they want to be left alone
Yeah, I mean if you want to be left alone in public. Maybe that's the only way to do it
You just have these things and they're getting bigger and bigger and these are so huge. They're crazy
This is like a rich lady who gets out of a car with a small dog
They're crazy and you wear them and when I got them,
I got them as a joke, but then you just keep doing it.
Because they're good.
Because they're good, they're actually fun.
And people come up to you and say nice things
about the sunglasses.
Which is weird.
Which is weird, they'll go,
these sunglasses are really cool.
And like cool people, like black people,
like those, you know what I mean?
Like a black guy will go, those shades are cool, and I'll go, that's great.
Like if a guy like me says it, it means nothing, I would throw them out.
This is like a bad sunglasses from the 80s.
Yeah.
Like what Brian Bosworth used to wear. Do you remember the Bos?
I don't.
He was a guy who was famous for his sunglasses sunglasses he was a big time football player interesting he was one of those you know every now and then
one of those fellas like what's his name the one that's dating Taylor
Swift Travis Kelsey that guy like when when one of those guys breaks through
yeah becomes famous that was the boss oh wow see those are I mean those are
corny as shit in 2000 but here we we are in 2024. They're back.
Invest in bell bottoms, kids.
They're absolutely back.
They're absolutely back.
Yeah.
Yeah, you had a mullet too.
Everything comes back.
Mullets are back.
Yeah, mullets are back.
Theo probably helped with that.
Yeah, big time.
And lesbians.
Theo and lesbians.
There's not enough new ideas.
You gotta recycle certain ideas. After a while you you go the mohawks not that bad
Yeah, of course. What's the problem? Everything was baggy and then everything was tight and now everything's getting baggy again
The ladies are wearing baggy pants a lot of people weren't baggy stuff, but then that'll probably swing
Yeah, I thought the whole idea of the tight pants is to show your body
That's what it's for right for sure. Yeah, what happened ladies? I don't know. Why'd you go baggy something happen?
I don't get it go back to the tight stuff. Yeah, that looks better
Well, they feel no one can objectify them in a in a bay if they were a bag yet
They'll go to the gym in yoga pants that are so thin you know
You mean you could literally like read Braille through them, right? do the gym in yoga pants that are so thin,
you could literally read braille through them.
You see your full vagina out.
And a lot of these gals are not wearing panties
because they don't want the line.
I don't want them to be on line.
So they have just raw pussy covered by yoga pants
out there in the wild.
We're kind of lucky as comedians to wear. Pretty much we don't
like you dress up in a suit for UFC and for other stuff. Yeah,
but most of us don't.
Yeah, you don't. I don't mind a suit. I like it. I work if I
have to go somewhere special. Yeah, throw a suit on. Right.
You know, I don't mind it. Sebastian's into it. Boy, that
guy. They wear it. I saw Seinfeld at't mind it Sebastian's into it boy that guy they wear it I
saw Seinfeld at Gotham he's in it oh yeah yeah people wear them Malaney wears one yeah it gives
you a certain you feel like you're some sort of an expert for sure you know you're you're definitely
better than the guy in the hoodie yeah I agree but I'm the guy in the hoodie and I agree with that
yeah I agree like when I see Seinfeld I go I agree that you are and it's in the hoodie and I agree with that. Yeah, I agree too.
Like when I see Seinfeld I go, I agree that you are, and it's, you know, it's not even
fashion, he's better in every way.
I wear hoodies three days a week.
It's fun to wear a hoodie and jeans.
Yeah, it's casual.
It's a great-
Loose.
I feel comfortable.
It's a great thing to just-
Soft.
And to be able to make money in a hoodie's grave.
Yes.
That's the cool thing about it.
Yes. That's the cool thing about it.
To have jeans on and go, I'm going to make money in a hoodie and jeans.
I think that's what John Fetterman was getting into when he went into the Congress.
That's what he was doing.
If I'm going to be rich now, I'm going to dress like what I would dress like if I was like Rick Rubin.
He's kind of an interesting guy now because now he's starting to make sense.
Yeah, what the fuck is going on? Did the stroke the stroke knock some sense? I don't know what happened
But he's like actually coming out of the gate with some like very rational things
Yeah, hot good takes on everything yeah, yeah on everything and I'm like if that's what sweatpants does
Let's do it. I wonder if like when we when he was running
He was recovering from the stroke and so that was why he would have those moments
where his brain would sink off and we'd be like,
this guy's fucked, he can't be a senator.
But maybe what it really is is it just takes a while
for everything to come back and now it's all back.
And now he's making sense.
Because I haven't seen any of those videos since of him,
there was a few videos where it was like,
me if I eat like a 500 milligram edible.
He was out of it for a period of time.
Yeah, he was gone.
He was in this place where it just didn't make sense
what he was saying.
Yeah, but now he's back, and it feels like,
from my perspective, that the things he's saying
are pretty logical.
What a crazy political move.
Yeah.
Recover from a stroke publicly.
Right.
While in the middle of a campaign. In a sweatsuit. Against a guy who's famous. Yeah. Recover from a stroke publicly. Right. While in the middle of a campaign. In a
sweatsuit. Against a guy who's famous. Right. And still win. And still win. And then get
progressively better and make more sense because our guy that's the president is getting worse and
Federman's getting better. I'm of the opinion and and I think you are too, that Biden doesn't exist.
I believe...
It could be the first AI thing.
I think he's a living human being, don't get me wrong, but there's nothing there.
It doesn't exist.
It's not there.
I don't think there's a question about this.
Right.
So everything around him is with supporting the country, which is kind of crazy.
Right.
It kind of shows you that the system kind of works. Sure, you know when you got a guy like that
It's a great kind of stress test to see like what happens
Yeah, you get a guy that's just good and also how much you can gaslight people into voting for him again. Yes
How much you can gaslight people into voting for the people around him again is what it really is.
The people you don't even know.
Like this mysterious cabal of humans is actually running the country.
Well it's such a weird thing because he came out of the state of the union.
He was pretty good, but he was heavily drugged.
Like something, and you might know more than I know about like certain types of things
that you can do like
what you've had all these doctors on and stuff is there a way to make that guy
like that for the debates is he gonna be able to because now he wasn't great
what I would recommend is I would find I would time it correctly right so I'd
recommend that he got lots of sleep I would cut all the ice cream out of his diet for several days, all the bullshit out of his diet. Then
I would give him NAD infusions and IV vitamin infusions multiple days in a row, like three
or four days in a row. Then the day of, I would make sure that he eats really well,
gets a lot of sleep, and then I would fill him up. I'd fill him up with
Adderall, I'd give him testosterone, I would give him human growth hormone, I'd give him
nootropics, I'd give him everything that we know that creatine helps with. It actually
does help. Creatine is a cognitive enhancer.
I'm thinking of him getting all these injections in that crazy just just just that purple skin from all the marks that that skin
that's just wound so thin it's spun so thin on his body all of the bruising
from all of these needles of stuff that they need to shoot him up with to just
be coherent for an hour. Isn't it crazy like when Obama was president yeah worse
they could get on him is remember when he wore that tan suit, right?
Yeah, he never had a single moment publicly where he stumbled where he said something really stupid
This is insane. It's insane. It's much worse than even you know, remember George W
Bush and he would like, you know say silly things. Yeah
This is like so far down the road from that.
It's so far down the road.
It's so far down the road that it's like,
I think it's elder abuse.
I really do.
I mean, if it was any other job, it would be elder abuse.
If there was a guy who was running the corner grocery store
and his family was making him run it,
and he was that old and they had money, you'd'd be like what the fuck are you doing to your dad?
Why are you making your dad work?
Your dad's out of it.
Yeah, why would you do?
Yeah, there was a guy in New York, this legendary guy Dom who ran this pizzeria called DeFaraz
which is like widely thought of as the best pizza in New York and he was so old and at
the very end he was just over the pie with
the oil and cutting basil and it was like you're what you felt bad because
the pie was amazing but you're watching a guy at the end of his life making
pizza making pizza very old and he would struggle he put it in the thing it was
hard it was like you kind of gasped and that's what we have now except
It's with Russia, but however if I went to a pizza place and there's a guy who loves making pizza so much that here
He's fucking dying right his last days. He's still gonna make you a nice pie. Yes
I'm gonna make a nice pie and he fought he must love the fact that he loves is awesome
Yes, he loved it and you if you make good food, it's probably a lot like killing
Yeah, for sure. You know sure like you kill on stage everybody love the great. We had a great time. Thank you
I'm so happy you wonder what the reward is for Biden like is it even fun?
It can't be fun. Why does he even want to do this?
I guy making that pizza when someone folds a slice of that pie and go yeah. Oh my god
It's like they're killing that guy goes, I've made all of these people happy.
Yeah. But this guy, I mean, this just came out in the Wall Street Journal where
they're saying that he's like showing signs like behind closed doors. Wait,
what are you saying? I know it's crazy. It's shocking. It's what? When president
Biden met with congressional leaders in the West Wing in January to negotiate
Ukraine funding deal, he spoke so softly at times and some participants struggled to hear him.
According to five people similar, familiar rather with the meeting, he read from notes to make
obvious points, paused for extended periods and sometimes closed his eyes for so long that some
in the room wondered whether he had tuned out. Or died are they they can't change him out now right you you and I both thought it was gonna
happen in May we were convinced I remember texting you I was convinced I
actually heard from people that were in kind of you know around the Trump
campaign that thought they were also preparing to run against somebody who wasn't Biden.
And they had believed that they were like, it's going to be Newsome or somebody and it
hasn't been.
So why not to sound like a nut, but why are they so why are they so committed to this
guy?
There's something weird about there's something strange about it.
Do you think that's it?
I think he's the sitting president and they gaslit everybody into thinking he was fine.
So now they would have to change course radically to justify getting him out of office.
If they just had they just published an article, I think it was in the Times that was talking
about Biden saying that his age is his superpower. Did you see that?
Yes.
And then Seth, what's his name? The guy from the fucking family guy?
Seth MacFarlane.
That guy retweeted it and was like, this is amazing, I couldn't have written this better.
Thing.
What?
Right, right. Yeah.
What?
His age is his superpower.
So you'd have to turn that back. So you'd have to turn that back
So you'd have to get all these people. Do you remember when there was a whole
list of a
Bunch of celebrities they used to make videos where they would tell you what to do, right?
You know what we need to do. We write to the end of democracy
Remember the bunch of them did that before the 2016 election? Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Those people, of all, you'd have to do something like that with Biden.
Well, what's interesting about Biden is they put him in kind of because they kind of stacked the
Democratic primary. They killed the momentum of Sanders. And there was a lot of people, Biden was like very behind
and then sprung out at the end.
They manipulated it.
Just like they did with Hillary.
This is like Donna Brazil wrote about in her book.
They manipulated it to get him in.
And it's just weird to me that when everyone sees it
so clearly and Trump is up in every poll, why
they wouldn't just have him go out, give a very patriotic speech about, you know what,
I thought I could do it, but now I can't.
I thought I was okay.
Because there's no one other than her.
So if you try to put her in again, if you try to promote her as president to against
Trump, Democrats are going to vote for Trump. Again if you try to promote her as president to against Trump
Democrats are gonna vote for trying she should lose one more time, but she's gonna lose in a way that's no I know it's crazy. No, they have nobody else. That's the other thing. The thing is he
Should lose in a way that's crazy
If you're looking at like competence because he's so old but people will vote for him
Just because the machine behind him has kept the country, it's still relatively okay.
You're still going out to dinner.
You're still taking plane flights for the time being.
For sure.
No aliens have landed.
Not yet.
You know, Ukraine hasn't spilled over into America.
It's all okay.
Not yet.
Kind of.
Kind of.
Right?
So you would probably, if you're, especially if you're one of those celebrities that made
that video about Trump, you can't turn course now.
Those people, that's out there forever.
Remember those?
Imagine those, There's No Heaven?
Yeah.
Remember that one?
I think older people kind of like, some of them like it because they go, yeah, well,
good for him.
There's a lot of older people that don't want to step down. Like when white guys want a white heavyweight boxing champion.
And there's a lot of old people that go, I'm not going to retire.
I'm not going to step down.
I don't want to go into assisted living.
Remember Frankie, he made that pie till the day he died.
Till the day he died.
He was 102 years old.
He put the basil on, drop dead.
Yeah, I think they they want they look at this
guy and they say good for him he's one of us there's a little bit of that going
on he's one of us I definitely think there's a little bit of that going on I
don't think that's Trump will beat him I think from jail yeah 100% Trump will win
yeah but I don't know if it's real yeah I don't know I mean look I don't know. I mean, look, I don't want to cry election fraud, but why would
I imagine that they would manipulate everything openly except the election? But this is what
I, you know what I'm saying? But this is what I'm saying to you. Is it not possible that
they haven't gone off Joe Biden because there was some fuckery in the last election. Well, is it not possible to some degree that they have this rabid insistence on this clearly
dementia ridden guy because their promises have been made and there are people in positions
of power that could speak?
I don't know anything.
I'm just that's a possibility. I'm just I mean, it's just a guess, right? Who knows?
I'm just asking the kinds of questions that people on Twitter will call me a name for
asking. But...
Well, you gotta stop reading that.
Yeah, that's true.
That's why I don't read it.
Boy, that's a nice... Once you break yourself free...
No, I know. I'm not on it as much.
You feel so much better. Lex goes into a dark hole every few days.
I know. Well, it's... I hope he doesn't read the stuff about the Kevin spacey interview life is dark
Oh, he's a good spacey did yeah, god damn it. We wanted spacey
Spacey you can get spacey. I know but then you're on the fifth person to have spacey you'll be the most
I know Weinstein's coming here first. I know you're gonna have him as soon as he gets out of jail
He's never getting out of jail. I hope he does
I don't think he's ever getting by the way he should isn't he in jail for the rest of his life
No, it's turning around Joe. What do you mean? It's turning around? What are you talking about? Oh, you don't know what what's going on?
He they just overturned all of his convictions
What well get some of what I'm what but are you fucking telling you?
the prosecutors in the Harvey Weinstein case were
encouraging the
Whatever you want to call them right the people victims the victims and yes, they are victims
But she was encouraging them to just
When I was a juror on a murder trial, and you're
instructed as a juror, this was years ago, but you're instructed to only consider the
facts of the case.
You can only discuss the facts of the case.
These victims were out there and they were permitted and encouraged by a very overzealous
prosecutor to share things that weren't related to the case.
And the fact that the jury could have based their...
Here, here it is.
Wednesday's hearing ahead of Weinstein's retrial comes just over a month after the New York
Court of Appeals, by a four to three vote, ruled the testimony of prior bad acts, witnesses
should not have been allowed because it was unnecessary to establish defendants' intent
and served only to establish defendantsants propensity to commit the crimes charged
He was convicted in the 2020 of first-degree criminal sexual assault and third degree rape and then he was sentenced to 23 years in prison
He has maintained his innocence. So what are they saying now?
They have a retrial gonna do a retrial
How old is he now?
Cuz he looked fucking terrible before he was going into jail. He's walking around with a cane. He's in his early 70s
But this is when directors do their best work
Truly but he's not a director right producers, whatever I have confidence in him is what I'm saying
I think if he can get out and well, I. I think he gets out He's got a lot to prove
Do you think they'll let him work?
They're not even letting Hollywood believes in nothing. They will absolutely let him work
They will let him work and he should work if they if listen if the retrial happens and they let him and it doesn't work
It is what it is, you know
Wow
He gets out
Imagine if it was all bullshit.
Well, I don't know how, it's like.
It couldn't be.
That time.
Well, they all did.
That we lived through.
Yeah.
Was so, it was this moral panic.
Oh, right, right.
The time of, you mean the time of like me too.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Everything that got, you know, that happened there.
What's it say?
What originally happened, it says here,
he had a separate 16-year sentence that is not
affected by this decision in California.
Oh, so there's another case which he was also sentenced to.
So the New York trial has been...
So he'll be transferred to a California prison?
Oh, he's fucked.
No matter why he's fucked.
Unless they do that one too.
So those guys, that was what they did.
But the crazy thing about him is he looked like that guy that would do that one so those guys that was what they did but the crazy thing about him is he looked like that
Guy that would do that he looked exactly like the guy that behaved the way that he behaved. Yes
Yes, like Dave Dave
Chappelle had a bit about it. Yeah, oh he raped right
Like you look at a guy, but it's the other thing about him. That's it's so crazy is how many?
photographs of famous people were with
him and how many people thanked him when they won the award course it's so and how
it was this open secret but it's just like they accepted this deal with the
devil like the devil's gonna make you a star if you suck his dick and apparently
that's what he would do yeah Whitney told me that there was girls that he knew
that girls that she knew rather that did the deal
And it was a deal like you suck his dick
He's gonna get you in this movie and they sucked his dick and they got in the movie
Like you would hold up his end of the bargain, right?
Which is one of the reasons why he was so powerful because you really could he wasn't just banging everybody
He really was let's say this though and make people famous. We think that's negative
But let's say him upholding his end of the deal is something
Like if he puts you in the movie
I think a lot of these by the way all of the famous people he did it to didn't really come out
No against him no because they can't because then if they tell the truth
Yeah, they were kind of because that was kind of a deal that was made not good
But that was a deal and he made good on some of those promises
He made good on a lot of them apparently this is just from what I heard
But you know Tarantino was telling us about this old-school Hollywood producer who had a bedroom in his office
Sure, so you would go into his office and this is like in on the 60s or whatever
So he had his office and then he had an a whole bedroom right in his studio yeah where
he would bang all the starlets like yeah you wanted to be a star this you had a
bang that guy which is just the deal with the devil that has always been that
business that's always been there that's always been there it's like why people
start cults yeah they always end up being sex cults, right? 100% of the time. All of these guys on Netflix, it ends up being creepy and sexual.
Yep, all of them. That's part of it. And I think if you have that kind of power and people
and you've got a steady stream of people walking in your door.
Yeah. And you, you're also doing this very specific thing where you're choosing the most
beautiful people to be in these
incredible incredible films right me think about the movies that fucking guy
made kill bill some of the best in the world pulp fiction oh you just go down
the line him out so many times I've seen a movie all Miramax of course yeah they
made insane movies and they were like the wine scene company those they were
the best yeah and they some of the best and they just did it with the devil. They did it with the devil
Yeah, they did it with the devil like the devil. I you know, you watch an old Woody Allen movie ago
I don't know if he's guilty. I don't know what happened. I go. I don't want to believe he's guilty
But can I still enjoy the movie or or not and then some of them?
It is a little different you watch it and you go it is I hope he's not guilty
but there's a good chance he's guilty and
There's a documentary that all of it's not good all of it's not good
I mean even if it's like your neighbor's daughter
Yes, you known her since she was two and then you want to marry her. That's kind of crazy
It's not great. You're an adult with children and your neighbor had a Dutchess,
but then again, you know, part of your brain goes, okay,
but like what if you really were in love? Like what if really,
she really was the next door neighbor and really you were 60 and she was 30 and
she loved you.
Right. Or if your wife had adopted her from Cambodia,
that makes it more complicated
You raised her but loved her still that's the next level that is what I was gonna say that ideal that you can't
Yeah, we'll say that can't it's not ideal. You can look at the neighbor and say well
Maybe you weren't close with the neighbor's daughter now. She's a grown woman. She has agency. She's a woman
She loves you, but you know what's funny
You can't say that about a kid that you fucking ray you can't marry a kid you raised
No, you can't marry a kid you raised but did he raise her did he see her like every couple things?
I don't know whichever however we can still watch any Hall. I care there any way to still watch
Any Hall no, I don't know, probably not.
It's hard.
You can, but you're gonna know the whole time.
It's like watching House of Cards.
You're like, how many?
Yeah, but I can watch House of Cards
because he's playing the guy he was.
Right.
That's perfect.
Right, right, right.
I like that Kevin Spacey doesn't even exist.
He's barely a person.
He's such a good actor.
He's become the thing.
He always plays people kind of like that,
Kaiser Soze, you know, Frank Underwood, he's become the thing, and he's so good at it that
it doesn't ruin it for me. I can watch House of Cards. There's an arrogance that some stars had,
like particularly in the 90s. When first came to Hollywood and this is like
really evident for me because I was not a star but I was on a television show so
I got to be around a lot of stars and there was a way that some of them would
treat you they would let you know that you are subhuman you are below them they
would communicate with you in the most disrespectful and dismissive ways
Like weird fucking weird got like mousy guys that I could kill right like instantly
And they would just just be rude to you in a really weird way
Because they had power that power and then when the an executive come over they would turn on the charm
They'd be smiling and laughing and then you would talk to them at the craft service and
they would fucking dismiss you in the shittiest ways.
I encountered a bunch of that.
It was commonplace.
And it was I think a thing that they aspire to, especially a lot of the guys that came
from Saturday Night Live.
Like when Phil came over from Saturday Night Live, Phil Hartman, when he was on news radio, that was the first thing he did after Saturday Night Live. And he had like his defenses up. Like I remember he was like a little like standoffish in the beginning, kind of shitty to us. Like he was the big star. And he was. And you know, Dave Foley was a pretty big star too. And the rest of us were kind of, no one really knew who we were.
And after a while he'd relax and he would tell me about it.
And he was like, you know, it's great here.
We all have fun, but God, I'm tired of life.
Everybody was stabbing everybody in the back.
And it was all, oh, everybody was,
people were getting people fired
that were like his assistants.
Just because they wanted to fuck him over,
they would steal people's things.
And it was just like really shitty. And it took a while for him to chill out and then I got to meet some of
Those people that he was talking about and interact with them. They did the same thing to me
Yeah, there was some shitty fucking people out of that. This is this this star culture
Yeah, and they would be the ones that were the royalty and everyone else was a peasant was really fucking creepy interesting
So I think if you're like an old-school dick grabber, and you're also on a Hollywood icon
Right, you know you probably are doing that you're probably doing that Hollywood thing where everybody else is just there for you
Everybody else is just should for you. Everybody else is just... Should we maybe wall
off Hollywood and just go listen? Let them go wild. They're just all sexual predators. Like
Jurassic Park. It's Jurassic Park. Can't we do that? Can't we say enter at your own risk? They
make great movies but occasionally they're gonna goose you. They may throw you against a wall. Yeah. I mean, if you train for the Navy SEALs, some people drown.
Can't we just do that? Because the other way is it working where everyone's nice and good.
Everyone can't be nice and good and have really good art.
I don't think... I'm not saying everyone has to be killing everyone. No, everyone no you don't mean Ron Howard seems to be really nice and good but I
watched this spacey documentary by the way and some of it is like okay he's
clearly did the wrong thing and then some of it these guys are like because
they wanted things from him they're like we went to the movies and he started
jerking off next to me it's like okay dude well then you know this is not a
guy to hang with and then the next thing they say is, and then he invited me to a party at his
hotel and he said Bruce Willis would be there, so I went. We can't feel bad for
you, right, because you're trying to climb on the basis of knowing this guy.
You are playing the game. That's right. You're playing the game. You're playing
the game. You're dancing with the devil. You're dancing with the devil. You're going to lunch
with Harvey. You're going to lunch with Harvey. You want it. You know, so to me it's like
they're not sympathetic in the way that like, you know, other people are. Whether it's sexual
assault in the military or in the workplace or whatever, where people are not actively trying to better their chances
of being famous by knowing this guy.
Right.
It's a complicated thing with Spacey, right?
Because apparently some of the alleged people are like people that he worked with, like
a grip on a set or a guy who has to drive him to it.
He was just wild, apparently.
This is allegedly right and then
some of those people died before they could testify do you think you can play
a guy like Frank Underwood if there's not a little bit of that inside you
somewhere no probably not probably not you know you know he had a really rough
life did he and you know his brother, his father
was a Nazi pedophile.
Oh my God.
This is true.
Oh my God.
And his father was all of Twitter, but no, he was a Nazi.
He would, he would rape them and make them watch the Nazi stuff.
This is I'm, I know I sound like I'm lying a lot and I am a lot, but this is true.
You can look this up.
Oh God.
His brother is a Rod Stewart impersonator.
Oh, God. It wasn't great the way that it went for anybody over there. Jesus Christ. According
to Kevin Spacey, he was raised by a relentlessly abusive neo-Nazi father. Wow. Spent his dinners
making anti-Semitic comments, which terrified his children. Wow. Yes. And worse than beating
and raping them, he was anti-semitic. Wow. So he was really
bad. Is that say that in here? The the the raping part? I believe from what I know. That's his
brother the Rod Stewart impression? That he was a very abusive. Damn his brother's fucking got it nailed.
The brother is really dialed. Boy if I saw that dude. Yeah no he's dialed. Yeah if I was like
somewhere I'd be like holy holy shit, Rod Stewart?
Look at this, he alleges his father frequently raped and beat up.
I mean, I'm not making it up.
It's terrible.
Oh my God, frequently raped and beat him.
Oh, why didn't they put that in the title?
Like just the anti-Semitic comments, that seems like the least of the problem.
For the way they grew up, let's be charitable, they turned out good.
Right.
They turned out well. The. They turned out well. Multiple Academy
of War. He's a very talented man and his brother, I'm sure does a great Maggie Mae.
Yeah. For the way they were raised. Everybody has to be judged a little bit with a backstory. I
love that Lex Friedman has the courage to interview anybody well, and he's one of those guys who genuinely is like
You know he knows what his intentions are yes, and he's very comfortable with himself
And that's why he can talk to all these people yeah
He's always coming from a good place even Kanye in the heat of everything Lex had him on yeah
No, it'd be good Marge like did a whole episode and said I'm not releasing it. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. I
Can't wait Kanye spacey. Can we do an election because there's gonna be an election
I'm angling to get back in here with Kanye and spacey and Weinstein from jail
I would get in here with Kanye, but it would probably turn bad because you talk too much
I know with Kanye. You gotta let him talk
I know because like there was moments where I was talking there's moments where I was talking you Kanye was like
He has so much to say I mean listen that yeah that madness inside of him was why his fucking songs are bangers
They're just banger after banger his fucking new albums amazing. It's amazing, too
We play in the green room all the time and all my Spotify playlist. I think
There's more Kanye songs than anything. He's a genius and what you have to realize with people that are
Incredibly gifted is a lot of that comes with some real downsides
Yeah, and they can't be judged maybe the same way
you judge every other person.
Well, I mean, they gotta follow the laws.
You can't be out there murdering people.
You can't do that, they gotta follow the laws.
But if he goes, says something crazy,
it's also like a, you know, you gotta look at like
what you've gotten from him and all of this great music.
Let him have a tirade every now and then.
Just let him have a little. Well, and then. Let him have a little...
Well, it's like he's his own enemy. It's just like he can't, the rants just go.
I know.
They just come flying out and who knows how much of it he's really been committed to until he says
it. And then once he's saying it, then he's really committed. And then he puts, he shows up statistics, like he held up this thing about, it was showing on his phone
all of the different people that are running all the different music companies and how
many of them are Jewish.
You know, he's like, they run the media, they run this, they run that, like, okay.
Yeah.
I mean, what are you going to say about that?
If they are facts, if these people are
all Jewish, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're doing something evil. Just, you
know, if you buy pizza, a lot of the people selling it are Italian.
I will say that the Jews seem to have made better choices than the Irish, my people.
Well, they're really good at running show business.
Yeah, I can't point to any list of people and go and they're and they're all I could is not one group and go and look and McDonough
and O'Brien. Right, right, like Italians, like my people, what other than food?
Someone said, a teacher I had in community college, you take it with a
grain of salt, but said that Italians were very focused on the family and
they were skeptical of institutions so they
started small businesses whereas Jewish people were more open to institutions
and that's why a lot of them are overrepresented in academia, politics, and
media. Well Italians are fleeing communism too. Right, so Italians are
skeptical of the government, they were skeptical and they wanted to have their
you know little pork stores and stuff and that's good
It's also Catholic very family or not, you know, if you date an Italian girl, you gotta meet everybody
That's right
You can't be just showing up at her house like some regular white guy and the Irish were were drunks
And sexually abused a little bit and they did the best they could
Boxers everyone's doing the best they can yeah well we're all coming out of chaos
You know the the reality of human beings in this country is this fucking country is three people's old
Right three people that's crazy. Yeah three people you know that's the reality of this country China is 400 people old
Right
You know that's real. Yeah
That's the difference. Yeah, you know like we don't have our shit together yet
And we started off with a really good idea that didn't anticipate technology
And then technology got involved in terms of like stock trading
And then influences of campaigns nobody anticipated
And then influences of campaigns nobody anticipated the lobbyists special interest groups
Nobody anticipated the military industrial complex till Eisenhower talked about it on TV
Just all these things got in the way of the original idea that they just they had a great fucking idea of how to make sure That no one ever becomes a dictator and that the will of the people get served
They had a great idea and now they have an idea where everyone can kind of be a dictator
So that's not the worst can kind of be a dictator.
So that's not the worst idea. You can be a little dictator. Well what they really didn't anticipate is the power that technology companies have. Yeah. That's what they own. Your thoughts, dreams, hopes,
fears. They have burrowed into your life more than any of the robber barons could, more than any of
those guys. Morgan a Rockefeller Carnegie
They've gotten insanely wealthy just from your data
Absolutely, and then convincing you you have to buy a new phone every week
Yeah, and they're helping you and that's the scary part, right?
They're utopians and they believe they're creating a truly better world and helping you
They're gonna make your life better and they make your life better you do, and these are things that make your life more convenient and easier.
How great is Google Maps or Waze?
So when they tell you it's more convenient
to just not have this discussion
or not be able to say a certain term
or not be able to, then you, you know.
You just comply.
You comply and you go, okay.
I don't wanna start any trouble.
I don't wanna start an issue.
I like Postmates.
Yeah.
Or whatever it is. I like Postmates. Yeah, whatever it is. I
like Airbnb well sure
What's failing now it's over now, it's all over now. I met one of the guys
Well someone I don't know if it was you but someone said and this is really nice
Someone tried to get me back and they were like no
Someone met a big guy and it might've been you.
Someone was like.
I think it was me.
Yeah, somebody was like, what about getting like a guy
like Tim Dillon back on and they were like, no.
They're fucking up, they're making a big mistake.
Well, that issue that I had was all about
the redundancy of cleaning fees.
Why would I pay a fee and then clean?
This has now become a rallying call
for millions of brave Americans to hold Airbnb accountable for
what they've been doing.
Forget the trafficking, people showing up to the house in the middle of the night trying
to rip you out of it.
This is true.
Single women going back to parties all the time.
Guys knock on the door at 3 a.m.
It's not safe.
A lot of the people who host, like have Airbnbs cameras set up it is strange there's also someone had an interesting
scam where they were renting a house and they were using that house as an Airbnb
house of course when they're probably making money off of the rental like
right you think about how much a house cost a rent if it's like two thousand
bucks a month yeah and you could Airbnb it for five hundred bucks a night. Yes, what's a Airbnb cost?
But it's by about 400 yeah, so you would probably make a lot of money
Yeah, there's a lot of that pay your mortgage easy
And then you could do that with multiple houses you got income constantly coming in and I think they interviewed the CEO recently
They interviewed him and he was basically like,
listen, we're trying to design your trips.
Like they're trying to figure out ways
to get competitive again.
Cause they're like, we know people are going back to hotels.
We know it's gotten too expensive.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, it's gotten too expensive.
People are like, we don't understand why we'd pay
all of this money to have all of these rules when we could just go
to a hotel it's easy right and we don't have to worry about anger you get a
report card Airbnb's a report card nobody wants that on a trip you get a
report card for like how good you did or bad people writing with a mass use about
you is that fun you going to vacations he's gonna write a review some
psychopath oh so like you could like take a giant shit and forget to flush it and then
Review and they then they trash just a simple mistake a simple mistake and flush stay out of people's homes
Yes, this is the real reality. Yeah, stay out of people there over 30. You can no longer stay with people
Put it this way. let's give them till 35
or 40 you have to get a hotel yeah you can't get a hotel you cannot stay with
a with a friend and you you don't need to get an Airbnb with seven people yeah
I always get weirded out when people like to just stay with different friends
and every time I'm like no do you like being annoying yeah that's done now you
can't stay with anyone anymore you go to a hotel That's nice like an adult. It's like an adult you go. This was nice. Goodbye. You need to say the word
Goodbye, and then you got to go to a hotel
Otherwise people are like they feel uncomfortable in their own home. They do not want you there
It's kind of crazy that Airbnb
That's another thing that popped up out of nowhere that nobody saw coming that was a disruptor that an uber right?
Yeah, uber was a big one popped up out of nowhere that nobody saw coming that was a disruptor that and uber right yeah uber was a big one
Popped up, but no one would have thought that everybody would become a cab driver for extra money
Well, it coincided with like this with this rise of the gig economy where people are like I'll just be I can work
I own a car I can work and I can make money through this app and
You can not have a boss boss exactly like like one of the things I
loved about delivering newspapers when I was a kid was you know I did it when I
was in my teens and 20s it's like you could just go to the place pick up the
paper you did your work but you could listen to the radio you can no one's in
your ear no one's talking to you you buy yourself as long as you get your job
done you're good and if you're an uber, you don't have, you don't just, like, I don't have to go to
a fucking office somewhere.
I just pick this dude up and take him to the airport.
Oh yeah, it's perfect.
Thank you, thanks for the tip, bye.
Easy.
Drive away, be a nice guy, you know, try to keep your car clean.
That's right.
You can make money, and you don't have to listen to anybody.
And they're having fun, some of those guys are having fun all day, listening to hateful
podcasts.
Please! Perhaps mine. Listen to this. Listen to smoking cigs in their car right now. Yeah people listening to it right now going. I'm enjoying my life
I'm having fun somewhere. There's someone in the back seat going fucking Tim Dillon shut yeah
Shut up. I hate it what he did to Megan McCain was so rude
He did to all of these people all these so innocent people innocent so
Fucking innocent good billionaire speaking innocent. Innocent good billionaire.
Speaking of innocent, did you see Fauci?
Did you see the...
When he came out?
Did you see the...
The leaked tapes?
Oh, not just the leaked tapes, but him getting grilled in Congress?
Oh, I didn't see it.
Oh my God.
Was it bad? Was it brutal?
It's horrible.
Yeah.
I think Jim Jordan got him lying under oath.
He's just... no matter what they catch him with,
he tries to find a way to weasel out of saying
that he said that, including saying,
mandating masks, shutting down schools,
locking everything down, closing businesses,
forcing people to get the vaccine.
All of it is on tape.
He said all of it.
It seems to be, again, it's the gaslighting thing
where people go, we can just now come out
and say that we never actually said any of that.
It's crazy him saying that though.
Not just saying that, but even when they catch him saying that, that's not what I was referring
to.
Right.
But that's exactly what you were referring to.
There's no ambiguity at all about any of the things you're saying.
And then also the gain of function research.
They're deleted a bunch of emails.
There's all these emails from his assistant talking about how to go in separate channels
to talk about this stuff and how to skirt around the Freedom of Information Act.
And then fucking Peter Hotez talking about deleting emails.
They all knew what the fuck they were doing, man.
They were all very aware that they were going to be investigated eventually.
There should be a commission on this whole thing, but just like the 9-11 commission would
probably be set up to fail.
And that's what the commissioner said.
That's not what I'm saying.
Even if Trump gets into office, how could it be?
Because he was the guy.
He put Warp Speed in place.
That's right.
He thought she was behind him at press conferences.
I think that's his biggest vulnerability, ironically Trump, is that a lot of people
don't trust him because of that period.
Well, he hasn't corrected course.
Right.
Because it's very difficult for him to ever say that he's wrong, right?
He doesn't like saying he's wrong.
So for him to correct course, for him to look at the studies that are coming out of the
UK and Europe about excess deaths
and where they're a little bit more honest about what the fuck
is going on because they have socialized medicine,
there's a lot more going on over there
than is going on over here.
There's so much about protecting pharma here.
Yeah, so much money.
I mean, so much money invested in advertising.
I mean, everything gets advertised by it whether it's
Into you know internet shows. Yeah, there's fucking so many
television shows mean that that
Montage I'm sure you've seen it brought to you by Pfizer right CNN one that's fucking nuts man. It's crazy
It's nuts
It's so much there's so much money involved in this that these people just keep their fucking mouth shut because the people that are
These people aren't real journalists on television
Now you see that when Chris Cuomo has to debate Dave Smith, right?
What they are is mouthpieces for whatever the fuck is the network. They're actors
Yeah, they're doing like actors and they think they're journalists
Which is hilarious like when you see like when Elon Musk sat down with Don Lemon,
and you realize, I need you know, and like, Don said it, or Elon said it best rather, he said Don is doing CNN outside of CNN.
That's like what he thinks talking to people is.
Yeah, no, they're actors, they're showpieces, and they're mouthpieces for usually corporate America,
and quite often whatever party makes corporate America feel
cozy at the moment.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a bizarre, bizarre merging of commerce and the news.
Yeah.
You know, that should have never, that's another thing no one saw coming, right?
The Founding Fathers, they never saw that level of propaganda being possible, that you
would have funded propaganda that was working step by
step with the government?
It's gotten to be, but you know what?
It's watching it fall apart over the last few years has been really interesting.
Yeah.
Because it is falling apart.
Oh, well it has to.
You are watching these guys and you go, they are convincing nobody.
I mean, I'm sure they're still convincing some people, but most free thinking people,
most people that don't have an investment in it are looking at it.
It feels fake.
It all feels fake.
I think people are starting to question it more than they ever have.
I don't think the government will ever fully recover from the pandemic in terms of trust levels
Right with all those kids who had to do
Proms in a car or wear masks jogging on a track
Mm-hmm. I don't think those kids ever look at the government the same way and that's probably good. It's good
I think that's good
It's good
And the thing is like young kids are paying attention to what is going on now in a way that they
Know that it's gonna affect their life
They pay attention to the government like these fucking idiots
They're gonna affect my life because they affected their life
That's right
And they did it to their parents like how many of these young kids saw parents lose jobs saw divorces happen
suicides in the family
breakups drug addiction so many fucking things happen
that didn't have to happen that were brought on because of the lockdowns and because of
the pandemic and the government's mandating things.
How many people that they know that got health problems because of the vaccine?
How many people that they know died young?
Everybody knows something.
No, and I think they're more likely now to have a skeptical view of the government.
Which is good.
And I think they understand more probably the value of, now, I don't know if they're
going to understand this in every area, but what propaganda is, how it kind of functions
and how to be aware and cognizant of the fact that there are people that are shaping and
sculpting the narrative and shoving it down your throat.
Yeah.
I think there's more people now questioning things,
especially young kids, are questioning stuff
about the war machine and the war economy
more than they ever have before and going like,
what is, why are we involved here?
And why are we funding this?
And why are we doing that? And I think we funding this? And why are we doing that?
And I think people are, and that doesn't end there.
They're sloppy, obviously.
They're not getting everything right.
But they're out there.
And they're also being heavily manipulated.
Yeah.
Which is something that's been discussed with a bunch of people
on the show.
We talked about, with Gad Saad in particular,
like who is behind
all these protests at the universities?
Like they're organized.
And they're organized a lot by Soros-funded groups and a bunch of different groups that
they organize these things to get a narrative very popular, you know?
And that it's all, the whole thing is just disruptive That's the key the key is to get people upset right to keep people disrupted
Yeah, just to further erode our idea that we have any kind of control whatsoever about what goes on
I went to one of those protests at UCLA and I was it was um
Fun, you know, it is it's it's young people
They're trying to enjoy themselves.
Is that what it was?
It kind of felt like that.
Like a little festive?
It didn't feel like Hamas had taken over the college. Like I know that it felt like there
were people there that were clearly probably pro-Hamas, right, as whatever you want to call them, as a group.
Right.
But then it felt like there was a lot of kids there
that just saw what was going on in Gaza
and they were like, we are against America funding that.
And they went out to do that and they wanted to,
in the best way that they knew how express,
how upset they were.
Now, you know, you can't destroy property,
you can't commandeer areas.
These are all areas where in a civil society,
you can't do those things.
But I think a lot of the people,
their reaction to a lot of what was going on
was probably heavily manipulated,
but some of it was organic.
Some of them were- It's also, they're just trying to be good people.
Seeing it on TikTok going like,
we're seeing kids being killed and we're paying for it.
And, and we should do something.
And I, the more people I spoke to, I was like,
yeah, I didn't think that they were,
I thought probably a lot of them were a little naive about certain
things but they're in college right so that's okay everybody's naive in college
that's right yeah and it's a thing to be a good person you want to go out and
support the good thing what's a good thing free Palestine yeah that's right
they should be free yeah from the river to see which river would see who cares
that's not what's important what's important is I'm out here because you which river would see who knows that's important
What's important is I'm out here because you know Debbie's really progressive and she's hot want some coffee
Yeah, please
Debbie's really progressive and she's hot right impress her well that's and listen there's there's a fun
I enjoyed it they had they had you know it seemed fun. I took a few selfies with them. They were good people
And then they were like the car recognized yeah a few times
Yeah, and then the kids were like they were like Abby Morton on. And I was like, thank you, you know, whatever. Thank
you. And they were very nice. And then I, and then they were like, well, the cops are
coming in. They think they go, we think they're coming in with rubber bullets and you know,
hoses and everything. And I said, I got at the Beverly Hills Hotel, you have to put your
breakfast order on the door by 1am. And I and I explained that to the kids I said I had and they they'll
know to bring the egg and everything I said I can't be here during the onslaught of the
police activity but you guys should I even said that I go you guys should and lock arms
do that stuff because you only live once and you're only a kid once and make these
cops work, who cares? Lock arms, but I had to go. I can't be.
Did you see what happened in Philly when the gay pride parade met free Palestine and they
clashed?
Oh, it was a fight. Yeah, it was a clash.
They clashed.
Kurt Metzger would call that, the great Kurt Metzger would call that, I believe, an intersectional
car crash.
It was funny. They were saying you can't march because Palestine's not free. You got to stop would call that, I believe, an intersectional car crash.
It was funny. They were saying you can't march because Palestine's not free. You gotta stop right here. We're more important. This is more important. It was weird watching it because they
were like, there's no joy. There should be no one should be happy. I think pride is very silly.
There's a whole month. That's very silly. If you look at what was done to black people
and you look at what was done to gay people, it's insane that Pride is a full month. A couple of weekends, maybe one or two,
the idea that it's a full month is nuts. How about there's only Veterans Day?
Right, there's one day for veterans and there's an entire month.
There's Veterans Day and Memorial Day. And what the month of pride allows people to do is it allows corporations to just talk
about how down they are with fisting.
That's really all it is.
Why don't we have a Veterans month?
It's just Capital One going, we come, it's like, we will, you can, and I say that as
an out
gay guy who has no problem with people going to pride parade and having fun I
don't think nine-year-old should be there how old do you think is the cutoff
I mean when your kids are in their teens perhaps if they're in their older teens
I just think kids should be legal teens you mean no I mean I don't know 13 year
old needs to be there either i 17
17 17 and no he's gay 17 or or they could just
17 and they're or they're they're like sure enough to handle what's going on are they though i
Don't know but i mean it depends like again i'm not mature enough to handle what's going on the pride
Well i don't know the pride parades have gone off the chain
They've gone off the chain. I mean, they've gone off the chain. But you know, people dressing up like dogs and stuff is crazy.
Congressman.
But like to me, I've always felt that like if you're going to go out and have a party
where people are getting drunk and hooking up and dancing, anybody who's legally underage
shouldn't be there.
So 17 is right on the cusp and then 18 and everything is fine.
But to me it's
like I don't think it belongs for kids. That's clearly it doesn't belong for kids. Well people
want to do it to show their kids tolerance and acceptance. But you don't have that's not. That's
why I want to do it. It's very sexualized. The thing about pride is like yeah sure you should
celebrate the fact that gays are free to get married and they have all the same rights as everybody else as they should.
But yeah, like it's sexual. Yes. It's like a lot of guys with thongs on. It's like spring break.
Right. It's wild. It's like would you take your 10 year old to spring break to show, to teach them tolerance?
No. Right. You wouldn't do that. That's kind of straight pride
Spring break is a bunch of people going to get fucked up in Florida, right? And they're gonna fight each other and have sex and you wouldn't take your young
Children to see that I don't see the reason to
Take your kids to a highly sexualized parade. Yeah
No, you want to take them to an event that's not as sexualized parade. Yeah, no. You wanna take them to an event
that's not as sexualized?
Like maybe a mother would tell her kids,
like your father's getting an award, he's gay.
He's getting an award, that's why it didn't work out with us.
Your father's gay, he's a faggot,
and we're watching him get an award tonight
because he wrote a book.
Poor bastards are out there in marriages right now. Probably a lot. There's probably a lot
of them. Just trapped. But you know what it is? Nothing's great. You probably have a fine
wife. Nothing's great. It's listen, continue to do things on the DL. Just don't give her AIDS. I and this is not a popular thing to say
During pride There's so many political attachments to being gay now if you're a closeted guy just just fuck your wife once a month
She'd honor don't give her AIDS and just keep the family tight and I know that that's probably not popular
But I mean now is not that I mean,
it's just if you're 60, are you going to come out? I mean, do we really need people coming
out in their 70s? Do we need this? To be very honest, there's a window of which you can
get honest. If you don't double down on the lie. I Think that's a great strategy for all of life. I think there's a window to be honest, right? It's not forever
Right. Nobody wants somebody coming out and they're 50 60. It's like on the deathbed. Yeah, it's on their deathbed
Oh, so that now you've lied the whole time, right? Just keep it a secret. Mmm. Just keep it a secret
It's not a bad piece of advice. Happy Pride, but it is.
I do feel that way. I think that like some people. Yeah, some people probably can't handle a change.
Yeah, some people. Big shift. Yeah, sure. Yeah. It's a, you know, I mean, it's also weird now
because people, it's like, what are you coming out as if you just, you want to have sex with dudes,
you want to have sex with women. And then you're like women and then you're like okay so then okay I want I'm gay or lesbian
but then you're like what is LGBTQIA2 thing what are you what is that flag
you'd be a two-spirit two-spirit yeah that's what two is I the fact that we allow
that is hilarious no no it's amazing it's amazing and a I like how a's in
there you're asexual you know't have a fucking dog in this race.
If you go, okay, so I have this, and then I have a flag.
I don't understand, nobody understands the flag.
Keeps getting bigger.
Indigenous?
Keeps changing.
What a white gay people,
and I'm not saying indigenous people don't have issues,
but what a white gay people have anything to do
with the indigenous community?
They're just trying to develop a gang.
Yeah, it's right.
It's like, why would they pretend to understand
what indigenous people go through?
How did the eye get in there? It used to be we were making fun of getting putting the trans people
and the lesbians in with the gays. Yes. Which is a very different thing. Well lesbians are going away.
Barry Weiss and Ibea is the final lesbian. Did you know that? No. She's the final one. That's it the final countdown
That's it Barry way
And do you know in Israel that canceled the pride parade this year? Why?
Because their gay pride flag they made the yellow I think bigger because of the hostages Oh, wow, so they didn't they would not have a gay pride parade
When they're also using all the material that they would have used in the Pride Parade to carpet bomb civilian areas of Ra'afah.
But here's the point.
All of the fireworks and stuff are directly being shot at babies' faces who are homophobic
and should go.
Because by the way, you know that's the whole thing they're doing over there, where they
go, they go, it's like they just bombed a school. And Israel's got to stop doing this all the time. Every now and then, when I grew up,
Israel bombed a school every now and then, and people would go, oh, it was not all the time.
Now they're doing it too much, and it's making people upset. When I grew up, it was a nice thing,
every now and then. Never a nice thing, but every now and then it would be like,
you wouldn't know what Israel's doing. They'd go, Israel just bombed a school. And you'd go,
oh, it was rare. Now they're doing just bombed the school and you go, huh?
It was rare. Now they're doing it so much.
And if you go, this might be a lot and I support them and the right to exist.
But this seems to be every human rights organization in the world, every country,
everybody's going, this is guys, please.
Even America, even Biden, even Biden is going, guys, please.
And the response to maybe let's not bomb these
refugee camps is do you know what Hamas does to gay people and women? Yeah. And it's like,
guys, come on. Yeah, that's not yeah, but you're killing people. You're killing children.
Yeah. And women and women. Yeah, A lot. A lot. We got to figure
out a way. More than you're killing terrorists. Yeah. We got to figure out a way to make this,
you know, a better situation. That's another one that's so wild too, because the left has
always been like kind of clear on where it would look at like conflicts. You know, like with Ukraine, the left is all
in for Ukraine, right? There's people on the right that are in for Ukraine, but the left
is pretty much all in.
They're all in.
Putin's bad.
The far left isn't, but the mainstream left that we all know about is.
But with Israel, you have people on the left that are pro-Israel.
A lot.
Hardcore.
Hardcore. Who just will find a way to rationalize the human shield argument, no matter what on the left that are pro-Israel, a lot. Jared You know, no one's talking about the history of the region like the real history of the region, which is really complex
It's very complex. It goes back forever. And then no one is
Looking at this like there's any kind of fucking solution that makes any sense now, so you're either ideal
So there's no like clear path like this guy's dead-on and this is the way we have to treat this and this has to be handled
No, it's either Hamas is using human shields and Israel has a right to exist and they want
to wipe Israel out and if Israel laid down their arms they would slaughter them, if Hamas
laid down their arms they would be fine.
Like, fuck man.
It's hard and it's like there's definitely, I think, naivete on both sides. The people that the Khamas is like a high school
theater group are insane. But the people also that think that you can bomb your way to the
peace over there, I don't know. Yeah, you're not going to do that. You're not going to do what are
they going to do with all those people that survive? I mean, imagine how many future
Hamas people they've created. They're gonna build hotels in Gaza. They're going
to turn it into a... because I think that's maybe the end game is to like
eventually put a bunch of money into it. That's perhaps the end game. Well, it is
expensive real estate. It's real estate by the sea. They're gonna put hotels in
it and then white people, you know White chicks from America are gonna go to trips. Well, whenever there's like land
Yeah, that something happens to that's close to water people like hang on right on before making decisions
You know this area of Maui is
Really right valuable. Yeah, we can do wild things here
We can figure out a way to appropriate
it, if we just hang on long enough for all these people to lose their mortgages, and
we just figure out a way to slow down construction, slow down rebuilding. I mean, look, it's a
terrible tragedy that this happened, but look, we can't go back in time.
What are we going to do?
I mean, what are you going to do? Want these people to rebuild the shack?
They're going to hire the people that are left to work at the hotels that the people
who bombed them are going to visit.
That is exactly what is going to happen.
And there's going to be a woman, there's going to be a kid who goes, here's your ex Benedict,
and she's going to go, hi, are you from here?
And he's going to go, yes.
And she's going to go, does your family still live here?
And he's going to go, no.
And she's going to go, why did they move?
And he's going to go, they were killed in the war and she's gonna go oh anyway can
we have some ice lattes too like that's that's what's gonna happen that's my
guess I guess do you think that there's any is there a way that they could sell
Israel taking over Gaza is there a way they could actually sell that?
Yes, the way you really sell everything is by saying humanitarian reasons, and
you're going to pump in a lot of money, and you're going to make things a lot
better. I don't know. The last administration that truly tried to get a
Palestinian state, people talk about Clinton, but it was really H.W. Bush.
George H.W. Bush tried to curb a lot of the settlement building and try to say, listen,
guys, we need to come to the table and have a Palestinian state.
There was another attempt during Clinton.
It didn't work for various reasons.
People can argue about why.
It does feel like no one's talked about it recently and it's
just kind of been a thing that everybody ignored. So the idea that it won't exist
is more likely now I think than it was. I mean and it should exist people should
have the right to have a home but I feel like they would sell it in the sense
that in order to provide economic and security
guarantees, it has to be an occupied region forever.
I think that and then the idea is like, I mean, listen, they're preparing.
I mean, look at Military Times just wrote an editorial.
They want to bring back the draft.
They want to bring it back in Germany.
They're all preparing for something. There is a very big push right now to militarize certain areas of the world, to bring back
the draft, to see this as a Cold War that could turn hot.
Biden basically said to the Ukraine, use American weapons in Russia.
You can use american weapons
for cross but not in a defensive capacity
for cross-border attacks into russia
russia's now doing war games in the caribbean
you know we are ratcheting all of this stuff up at a time when we should be completely going the other way
we should be trying to figure out
how to live on the planet with China and we should not be getting involved in a, we should not be
encouraging countries to join NATO to antagonize Russia and getting involved in
proxy wars. That's crazy. Didn't Trump say that he was gonna pull out of NATO? He said that.
He also said he would have bombed, you know, at a fundraiser the other day he said he
would have bombed Russia and China like... What? very bellicose. Yes, you can look at
Oh my god, so he's saying all kinds of wild stuff now
I don't think he would have but I think it might also help to be that bellicose and say all those wild things
It does saying that you would bomb China and Russia
He said at a fundraiser recently and the people in the fundraiser were kind of shocked
he was basically like yeah, we would hit him and you know, we would have done it.
Yeah, he's been, you know.
I gotta see this.
No, he's right here.
Trump at fundraiser says, we would have bombed Russia and China.
What?
What?
What did he say?
Where did he say it?
What the fuck did he say?
I believe that President Trump will be supportive of Taiwan when he becomes president.
He's there the first term.
So where does it say that he would bomb?
What does it say here?
During a rally in Bronx, reference several authoritarian leaders including Vladimir Putin saying they were at the top of their game whether you like it or not
The world is going to respect us again if he's reelected
He claims the bomb revelation was made in a Washington Post report on Trump's recent fundraising tour during which he tested the boundaries of federal
Campaign finance laws according to experts at a fundraiser in New York earlier this month. Mr
Trump told the attendees he wanted to hear what they had on their minds
hearing options from on former UN ambassador and his final Republican
primary opponent Nikki Haley and several issues connected to Israel mr. Trump is
routinely what is it where's it say about the bomb thing where's I don't
see any of this you should that should be like front and center if it's in the head No for sure like why you make me get go all the where's it say bomb?
Here says the bomb revelation was made but right, but what does that mean?
amongst the
People talking. Yeah, what does that mean? Like they're not saying his quote. That's a real sneaky thing to do
Yeah, the bomb revelation was made in a washington post report on trump's recent fundraising tour
But what was it if I different article on it? Yeah?
See if they have a quote yeah that seems trump would bomb moscow allegedly said he would
allegedly right
Allegedly well he says a lot of stuff right might not have said this but that's a crazy yahoo title
Trump suggested at fundraiser he would have bombed like that seems to me like unless you have
the fucking quote you shouldn't be saying that it is kind of funny don't
turn out crazy Putin that's a great headline oh my god the hill said that
but this doesn't say he was gonna bomb anybody. It says according to the Kiev Independent, which is what Yahoo reposted, the formerly
and possibly future president.
Let me say this.
In what Trump said a few days before, according to the Kiev Independence retelling of a May
28 story in the Washington Post, the former and possibly future president suggested at
a fundraising event that he would have bombed Moscow in response to Russia
full-scale invasion of Ukraine. But this is not saying his actual quote. He
also said in quotes he would attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his
watch. But is that, it's got an asterisk? Is that, no it's a quote. So is that his, that
his quote? Did he say that though? Because it's weird. It's saying an asterisk. Is that, no, it's a quote. So is that his, that his quote? Did he say that though?
Because it's weird.
It's saying, the quote is that he said
he would attack Beijing.
And so in quotes that way, is that his quote though?
Attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his watch.
Did he actually say that?
Or is this a retelling of what this person is saying
and they're putting that in quotes.
The whole thing is a little slippery
It is slippery because if you're not is suggested at a fundraising event
He would have bombed Moscow like that seems like you should have that quote you yeah, you would think
Trump makes sweeping promises to donors on an audacious fundraising tour doesn't say anything in there about bombing does it in the Washington Post?
Google just do a find on this big-ass article and look for bomb here it goes okay for example at one
event he suggested he would have bombed Moscow and Beijing if Russia invaded
Ukraine and China or China invaded Taiwan surprising some of the donors but
you don't have the quote no he said it said it before with John Daley with the golfer. He did say, I told Vladimir I'd hit Moscow.
He did say that. And he did say that. He said, and you can get this, he did say to John Daley,
he basically said, like, listen, I told him, I said, if you go in, we'll hit Moscow. And Trump said,
I don't know if he believes me or not, but you just got to say these things, you know. He was kind of telegraph again. But listen, I think that, you know, there's a
probably a value to some of that talk.
I said, we're gonna hit Moscow. He sort of believed me, like 5%, 10%, that's all you need.
He never did it during my time, John, you know.
No, no, it's funny.
Why did he do this during the last four years?
Because he knew he couldn't.
It's funny how she didn't bother you either.
Yeah, no, she didn't bother me.
I told him the same thing.
John Daly getting hammered, chatting it up with the president.
Guy's got an amazing life.
I gotta get that guy in here. Yeah. John Daly, if you're out there. It'd be epic. Let's get hammered chat it up with the president guys got an amazing life. Yeah, get that guy in here. Yeah, John Daly if you're out there
Let's get hammered. Yeah, but did so I mean who knows if he said at the fundraiser or not
They are slippery and they do attribute things to him and there's maybe more context. Yeah, it's real hard to know
But just saying that's crazy. Yeah, I don't know if you believe me maybe 5%
Yeah, but I think maybe that's good
There's something good about a maniac when you have a maniac in there who is you know a guy that's unpredictable
I think maybe Kim Jong-un
You know when he would do that and then Trump was on the other end of that maybe that was perhaps helpful
Maybe not I don't know but do you really want to be playing chicken with fucking Russia? No, I think we got a chill
Yeah, I think we got a chill across the board. It doesn't feel like we're chilly
It feels like every and it feels like we're on this inevitable course
Towards World War three. It's every article and headline is that guys let's pull it back. Yeah, let's have a summer here
Yeah, let's relax a little you know, but it's not gonna relax because it's getting close to November and everybody's got to be terrified
Oh my god, Aren't you?
Well, depending on which article I read or media I consume, I don't know.
It feels like they're doing a lot to keep him from running.
You know?
I mean, you have the Stormy Daniels thing, which was a misdemeanor.
It was elevated to this felony
You know, it was like it would have never been prosecuted had he not been no running for president people that scares the shit out of me
That's terrible. And that stuff's crazy. Absolutely and the Republicans are gonna do it back. Mm-hmm
So now you're gonna have because they weaponized the government against you know
When you had like the Steele dossier, and Hillary Clinton,
you had all of this, what ended up being, you know, faulty
intelligence about him being controlled by Russia, and then
they had all of these investigations and spent all of
this time and energy trying to get him and couldn't. And then
they tried to get him on like like inflating the prices of the buildings
he owns and now they finally got him on paying hush money to someone who is a porn star.
Well what they got him on was the inappropriate way they put it in the ledger.
Right the way they put it in the ledger.
The way they entered.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah 34 times.
So 34 different felonies.
And I know people that hate Trump that go we we shouldn't, they shouldn't have done that.
Well, that's scary if someone, if he gets into office, you don't think that judges and prosecutors
that are sympathetic to him would do the same thing? Absolutely. That's probably what's scaring
the Biden people more than anything, is the retribution. I mean, this guy is, I mean, he's
a vindictive guy. He's always been a guy that goes after people who go after him. You know, he hits back harder than they hit him. And if they're doing this
to him and he knows all the people that did it.
Well, you have all the guys now, his guys, right? Bannon, Stephen Miller, all these guys,
they are all saying, hey, where are you? DAs all over the country start bringing cases
against prominent Democrats. Yeah, they're worried. They're worried. You know, they're
worried because if, if Trump doesn't get in then you do you remember what happened when Trump lost
and then all these people were saying everybody who supported him they should be on a list
like right. Whoa, that was insane. Whoa. Are they willing to start a world war before this
election? That's interesting. That's interesting. Are they willing to start a world war before this election? What are they willing to do? What are they not
willing to do? Well, maybe a world war gets started because they don't want
Trump in office. Maybe someone else starts it. I'm wondering how far they're
willing to go. I'm also wondering how other countries like you just said
might take advantage. Yeah, maybe they would take advantage of this.
Because they know that's the best way to keep Trump from being the president.
If Trump is promising all these embargoes and all this different shit that he's going
to do to China and everything he's going to do around the world.
If I was in another country and I'd be like, we don't want that.
No.
Like escalate things, you know, right around October invade Taiwan, take that
over. Yeah. See what happens. I mean, that's the thing. A lot of people are thinking that
there is a possibility that you see somebody makes a move. Yeah. You know, but what a better
time? What better time to make a move than the chaos of us right now? Right. You got
a choice between, you know, what the Democrats keep calling a convicted felon, you know, convicted felon. He's a convicted felon.
And they, you know, there's been all this talk about repeating that over and over again. Right.
Like make sure we get that message out there. No one cares. No one cares. Convicted felon. Yeah.
I mean, it's just such a stupid thing. Well, he's got a lot of people voting for him now that
wouldn't have voted for him before. There's a lot of people I think that are also seeing the, you know, it would be one thing.
I mean, listen, I have no nothing good to say about Gavin Newsom.
But if you had a guy that was had his faculties could speak, yeah, was of a reasonable age
or whatever could gaslight better, could gaslight better.
But the fact that you have this guy who's so old that to me does suggest for whatever reason, they're terrified of
replacing him with someone else. I do not know why. I don't know why. But it feels like
whoever running things right now is does not want to, does not want anybody coming in and
looking under the hood. Yeah. Right. It does feel like that. I could be wrong. Like if you you're in business with someone they won't let you look at the why are they killing Assange?
Every day. Why are they?
Torturing and killing Julian Assange. What are they? What did Julian Assange unleash?
That has made them
Do this to him where they're slowly and methodically killing him in front of everybody.
Well, they can't stop now. Right? Right. They've been doing it for so long. They can't stop
now because then he becomes a martyr with no consequences. And the same people go and
talk about Alexei Navalny and try to get you to be upset that Vladimir Putin, which made
no sense. Why would Putin kill a guy who was now? I'm not saying Putin's an angel, but Navalny was never a threat to Putin in any way
He was in a Siberian prison and that week that we were having that vote
about
60 billion for the Ukraine
Putin kills his biggest critic publicly. That's insane. That makes no sense to anybody and
What do you think happened?
Well, if I had to guess, there's two ways. And Alexei Navalny might have just died.
People can't just die.
But it seems like if there was any group of people that had a benefit from Alexei Navalny dying when he did,
it's not Russia. It would be us. If we're trying to pass
into a country that's a little war weary and a little tired and going, we don't really need
wire witness. What is the end game in Ukraine? What does it look like? How much money should we be
kicking over there? We're trying to pass that bill, get that through Congress.
We have to portray Vladimir Putin as a monster who's unwilling to negotiate.
We have to do that.
In order to fund that war, we have to present him as a guy who's hell bent on taking over
Europe and that war is in our vital national security interest. And the more we can paint him as that person,
the better it is and the more likely we are
to be able to pass that bill.
And it's just very weird if he wanted to get rid
of Alexei Navalny that he would have done it then.
But wasn't that guy in a terrible prison?
And he wasn't he?
He was in a bad prison.
And I mean, obviously Putin hated him Obviously Putin hated him like wouldn't hated him
But Putin they had tried to poison him already the FSB had already tried to poison Navalny
So why wouldn't you think they just did it again? Why why what would be the point? He's in that prison. They want him dead
Because Putin just wants him dead the week the week that the week that America
wants him dead. The week that America... Alexei Navalny never had widespread support in Russia, by the way, this is not true. He had certain people that liked what he was doing. He never
had widespread support in Russia. This is a Western narrative that's cooked up that's
completely untrue. Alexei Navalny started his life as a guy who would criticize Jews,
he had a lot of fascist tendencies. And then after a little trip to Europe
and maybe meeting with, I don't know, who knows?
Who knows who people meet with?
He decided to go back to Russia
with a very pro-Western attitude and he changed course.
I'm not saying why people do that.
People see the light in all different ways.
The point is, the guy's in a Siberian prison,
America's about to pass a huge bill.
If you're the president of Russia, are you killing him that week? That just to me is a question. How did he die? What are
they saying? But now they said something recently, they said they found that he wasn't killed.
They said they came out with something they conducted.. Now I don't know, you know, I don't know who's conducting this, whether it's a
human rights watch or an international. You're dying slow in jail no matter what. You know,
if you're in a Russian jail. Yeah, you're in a Russian jail. What are you eating? And
I'm not saying Navalny wasn't a patriot or whatever, but I'm just saying that like the
idea that killing him, you know, maybe the guy did love Russia. I don't know. Maybe the
guy was an egomaniacal guy who just wanted to lead. He wanted to be the leader. Maybe
he was working with us. I don't know. But if you just look at it from a logical standpoint,
it's weird that they killed him that week. That's strange to me. Does it make any sense?
Interesting. I don't know enough about it to comment.
I would imagine if you wanted the guy dead.
That should never limit any of us.
How did he die?
Sudden death syndrome.
Given notice of a dead Navalny's spokesperson, Kira Yarmish said the time of his death,
notice at 2.17 p.m. local time when Alexi's lawyer and mother arrived at the colony this morning
They were told that the cause of Navalny's death was sudden death syndrome
That's a yeah vague term for different cardiac syndromes that cause sudden cardiac arrest and death
Yeah, maybe they just killed him
Listen, of course, they might like me right? I don't know unwell for a walk almost immediately losing consciousness. He also just might have died in a jail
He might wait. How old was he?
That's pretty young just dropped out of a heart attack. It's it's certainly possible that it killed him
It's just all of these events
That we're told
All of these events that we're told very little about, you have to then just rest on your own.
You go, well, I don't know.
It's very possible they killed him.
I don't know.
I don't live there.
It's very possible they killed him.
I like how you're thinking though.
You're thinking like 4D chess.
Well, no, I'm thinking like, you know, the way when he dies, people go, he was a big
threat and Putin had to vanquish him.
Was he?
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
Does anyone consume Russian media or listen to Russian podcasts?
I've listened to Russian podcasts.
I hear the way Russians talk like, I know people that live there.
We hear a lot of stuff and then there's what we hear and then what's happening.
Doesn't mean that it's great.
I'd rather live here.
But it does mean that this idea great, I'd rather live here, but it does mean that like this
idea that there was a movement, like remember when the hot dog warlord guy, Purgosian was
going through and everybody was salivating on social media being like, no, no, no, he's
about to overthrow the Kremlin, it's going to happen.
And it didn't happen.
No, not if he did, he's a fucking warlord.
He's a warlord, if he did, he's going to be worse.
But it didn't happen because nobody has a fucking clue what's going on over there.
So it's just you have to, and then Assange, they're killing this guy in slow motion and
then telling us how outraged we should be about Navalny.
When Assange comes out, leaks a bunch of emails, we find out we're committing war crimes, we
find out the CIA can remotely hijack your car, we find out that they can use all kinds of your smartphone
features to record you, you know, all that stuff. He releases, I forget what it's
called, Vault 7 or Vault 5, I forget what, I think it's 7, but I don't know, I forgot
the name of the vault, but he releases all of these things. Troves of Clinton emails, you know, and I'm not saying pizza rich gets murdered Seth rich gets smart
I'm not saying pizza gate was real but I've never in my life been like
We have 50 hot dogs ready for the guy when he come like no one talks like I don't know what they were talking
About but no one's in pizza. No one has ever communicated like that
No ever once those emails the most bizarre and pizza. No one has ever communicated like that. No. Ever once. Those emails. The most
bizarre. Read those emails. Nobody has ever communicated like that ever ago. Well, I hope
there's 50 hot dogs or something. The president's going to love some of these good hot dogs.
Maybe we shouldn't have our hot dog parties at the White House. Things that are so crazy
when you read them them you don't know
you go this doesn't seem to be yeah doesn't seem to make any sense and
they're talking about kids and some of the kids and they're talking about weird
shit it seems coded it seems weirdly coded it's like it seems so coded that I
would assume that it's misinformation that it's fake that's probably that
someone released it it's like who knows sort of a fake, but I don't think it is. I don't think it's ever been claimed
I don't think it's ever been claimed to not have been their actual emails. It's very strange and they have these emails
That are all very weird and strange
Seth Rich gets killed and anybody who thinks that Seth Rich might have got murdered because of leaking to WikiLeaks even though Assange alluded to it right you're a conspiracy
theorist you're a nut well wait a minute do you or do you not think that
sometimes people kill people yeah these people are crazy and you see a clear
motive here you see a thing here that's a real big thing and no and if you at all, if you even question that at all, if you look into it at all, they left his wallet, they left his phone, they didn't steal anything from him.
Was not a mugging.
Just murdered him.
Was not a mugging. It was a murder.
You don't think that's weird?
It's very strange. People call it was a bad area. It was whatever. Yes, but there was no economic crime happened. Like there you were.
Not only that, they left his stuff
That's right. They shot him and just left whatever you had they left. It wasn't a robbery Yeah, give type persons gonna shoot someone you're gonna leave their money with them
You had all of that happening at the same time that high up members of the national security apparatus in this country were coming out going
We have information that the president of the United States is
Is either working for Russia,
conspiring, has conspired with Russia.
Had girls pee on him.
Had girls pee on him.
They were accusing him of treason.
And I remember this.
They were accusing the guy of treason.
This was not like he got a blow job in the Oval Office.
This was his, this is treason.
And his supporters enabled a coup in our country
backed by Russia
None of that two years three years on
TV and everybody repeated it everyone repeated it. No one has since apologized. Nobody has said we were wrong
Nobody has shown any
Interest in getting to the bottom of how that happened. They cook up this fake steel dossier
getting to the bottom of how that happened. They cook up this fake steel dossier,
claiming all these things, the P tape, all that stuff.
All of this intelligence ends up being,
for lack of a better word, pretty unsourced.
And the Clinton campaign paid for that dossier.
So all of that stuff, unreal how corrupt,
now when you zoom out and you look,
and then you go with this
this old guy with dementia that they don't want to give up on and then you
zoom out and you go oh maybe there is something else happening I don't know
Jesus who the fuck knows you can only say this if you have these glasses yeah
you feel better if you take them off you immediately become a normie and you can't
and you feel nervous you feel nervous. You feel nervous.
You start going, I like Biden.
I like that he's a family man, which someone said the other day.
He's a good man.
A family man.
He's a good man.
The family.
The sons, the son right now, our president's son right now is in court trying to convince
a judge that he was not smoking crack when he bought a gun.
Is he the first guy to ever get arrested for that? I don't know. Judge that he was not smoking crack when he bought a gun mmm
Is he the first guy to ever get arrested for that? I don't know
But that's such a funny thing that that's literally what this the son of the president's doing right now is he's
They've got his ex-wife testifying
Ex-girlfriend yeah, not just like yeah smoking he was saying smoking crack every hour on the hour
Yeah, and then one of them I think his ex-wife or ex-girlfriend said she was witnessing him
do it every 20 minutes, which is kind of impressive.
How do you stay alive?
Yeah.
You think about all the people that have died of overdoses, that guy's out there keep on
trucking.
That's right.
Dropping accidental packages in the White House.
Well, he's fit, he's kind of built for it.
He's built to smoke crack.
You know what I mean?
He has fun sex, he can handle it like
Shane Gillis can handle beer absolutely some people can just handle stuff and
you know I don't even want him to stop smoking crack I don't think he stopped
sure and I hope he's sure they're all great they found coke in the White House
you know I had a chance I had a chance to get him on the podcast.
Oh Joe.
I know early, early, early on when he was releasing a book before the laptop stuff for
all the shit hit the fan.
Oh, well then that might have sucked.
I don't know. I think I could have.
You could have opened them up.
Whenever they were, he was going to go on. I think they canceled all of it though.
Yeah.
I think when the shit started, it probably never would have happened because I think once things started going sideways
I think he did a couple of interviews before things went completely sideways. I think it was because of a book
It was before he was selling those
Paintings yes an artist for like half a billion
soul
Sensitive soul he lives in Malibu is an artist paintings are a crazy way to fun the fuck
Absolutely, it's great money laundering scheme. It really is. It's the best. It's a great way to do it and you know, it's interesting
It's like the CIA
There's there's real evidence now the CIA was involved in Jackson Pollock. Oh, yeah, you know that right which makes sense
because the paintings were terrible there
not only were they bad but that right which makes sense because those paintings were terrible.
Not only were they bad but all of that whole era of art they were kind of and that was
it was also like it was it also fucked with people's heads because people looked at those
paintings going I could do that.
Right easily.
And capitalism only works if you have respect for the accomplishments of other people like
you've got to be able to look at people and go I can't do that.
Bro there's some work like that that is insanely expensive. Yeah, and it's just splatters and you like what what is this?
Well, it's a great way to get over on the right people think rich people always get over
It's not true rich people get beat all the time by other rich people
Oh, yeah, because they all agree that there are certain kinds of bullshit that they tolerate, and one of them is like,
they buy this crap art that is like this modern art,
that, you know, one was a blank canvas once
that sold for 200 grand, like all this stuff.
How much do you think that went for?
Five million dollars.
Tim, any guess?
What is, is it Pollock?
Yeah. An original?
No, no, it's not.
It's not Pollock?
I don't think so.
Someone else?
I'll show you the answer if I looked.
I say five million dollars.
I'll say, I'll say two million.
Three hundred million.
Two weeks of the Ukraine War.
That's two weeks of the Ukraine War.
That painting.
That is so crazy.
Can we just give the Ukraine that and have them sell it?
Can we just give them art like that and have them repurpose it?
What is it?
William de Kooning.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so it's 55. Is the head of the... in the middle of the CIA?
Yeah, this is when they were doing this.
So was this the American guy who did it?
The CEO of Citadel bought it.
Oh my God. What a fucking asshole.
You know, you made a great point about chaos.
You just need a certain amount of chaos, and with this crap. It just starts driving people crazy
Yeah, and I think that chaos ends up becoming the point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a factor
You know, it's like noise like if you want to kill somebody turn up the music so no one hears them scream
That's right. Yeah, so that's interesting when you see them really get involved in culture in the 60s
Mm-hmm, and they are in Laurel Canyon. Mm-hmm. They're hate Ashbury. Oh, they were involved in everything
They're working with everybody. You've had that guy on your show wrote that great book about Manson and all that stuff
And they're they're they're involved with Colts. They're involved with everybody. That's actually the painting
The one I had up that it showed was not the correct. Oh, this is the one that one still sucks That's 300 million. That's even less impressive. That's actually the painting the one I had up that it showed was not the correct. Oh, this is the one that one still sucks
That's 300 million. That's even less impressive. That's worse
That one's less good if I bought the other one for $400. I'd feel better
That's like something a guy like me picks out almost 27.6
Jesus that's right. It's a bowl
Yeah, good lawyers is the same artist. I don't think so. So this guy
What is the big deal about this guy? I didn't I don't know I just I was looking through another
I was your garbage. This is a garbage painting the top 15 from
2020 and like I was like the very first one shows was the one I just showed you oh, but that's number 15
Yeah, and that's 27 million. Yeah, so this is the most expensive works of art. Oh look at this one
How much is that piece of shit?
Bro, that's something my daughter would have done when she was four.
28.7.
28.
Yeah.
What?
It's fake.
What?
Yeah.
So this is money laundering.
This is money laundering.
Well, then there's Picasso.
Picasso's actually kind of cool though.
Look at that one.
Let me see the Picasso one.
Look at this one.
That's different.
The Picasso one's kind of cool. But it's destroying the difference by elevating a lot of the other stuff. They're also muddying the waters. Look at this one. It different because the one's kind of cool but it's destroying the difference like it's by by elevating a lot of the other stuff they're also
muddying the waters look at this one it's all blue yeah except that one line
there's the line down the middle how much is that one thirty that's thirty
million dollars this one's a black oh yeah red with a black square at the
bottom 21 million dollars 31 this is insane oh that's a dinosaur though
skeleton yeah that's pretty that's pretty Skeleton. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty dope. Well, that's fun
That's pretty dope that belongs in a Miami penthouse first floor
I looked at a house in Beverly Hills when I was talking about living in Beverly Hills. Yeah, I had a dinosaur in it
See that's cool by the dinosaur for like an extra million. The Persians are fun
Yes, cuz they own those places. I have a dinosaur. There's one guy. There's one guy there that has white tigers in the backyard
What he has he has like a white tiger thing in his backyard actual white tigers. Yes, you're allowed to do that. No
So not allowed he's just balling. He doesn't care. He doesn't give a fuck and and and but it's kind of well known
Well known that he has tigers
Maybe not amongst the people that would it is now. Yeah
Maybe not amongst the people that would. It is now. Yeah. For sure. Now people go. What's the address?
Oh, I don't know. I've never, they don't invite me.
I'm gonna be standing there with the tiger.
Did you ever see that show, The Shaw's of Sunset?
Yes. It's all the rich Persians.
Yes. Tarangeles. They call it LA. Tarangeles.
Which is fun. There's something fun about those people.
I like the gold and the gaudy and the glitter.
The wasps, to me, they're like the gold and the shawty and the glitter the wasps
to me they're like the fading wasp Empire where they're loaded but they
drive like a shitty beater car I don't like that and they wear loafers I like
how you do it I like how I do it which is disgusting and vulgar and it shows
people that money isn't even good right the way I live proves that money isn't even good.
I buy things at the, or when I walk into these stores, I buy a dumb hoodie or something that looks crazy or a feathered coat or
whatever. And people see me in it. They go, you know what? So what,
so what we don't have a lot. Look at this idiot.
Capitalism needs people like me to go out and do things that are so buffoonish.
It makes people go, you know what? This whole thing. Money ain't it.
Right. Money ain't it. Let's just go to the lake.
But it is something gross about I like when people
that don't have money, because I never had money.
And then at 37, I like had money at like 36.
And then you do dumb shit.
No one. My parents had no money. Yeah. and then you do dumb shit. No one my parents had no money
Yeah, no, no one's smart. It does what I do, but that's okay
The only smart thing I've done is I have some houses so like I can't
Pick them up and you know snort them or whatever like right, but nobody's
Buys the kind of dumb sunglasses or dumb bentleys like nobody does that if they have a clue, right?
But my parents my mother was a swim teacher and my father was a wine salesman
They were good people, but we didn't know anything about money. We never learned about money
We had no idea about money. So I just you know, I just when you get money
You go I should do things like go to Beverly Hills and get like a very
shiny gross grotesque car
Mmm, because that's what it is. That's all point of Beverly Hills. You get a nice car you drive up to one of these restaurants
The valets park it
They go. That's a nice car
And then you just go. Thank you. That's the whole interaction. Thank you so much. Good. Thank you. You want to get that? Thank you
You want to get the what you should tell them is you should tell them you should go I live in hell and then just walk
In you should go I'm owned
Because a lot of those people are you should just go if you're like at the margins. Oh, yeah
We really shouldn't have that car. That's right
Oh, there's a lot of people out there living like that
Well a real estate agent told me once
that New York was a $50 million house cash
and LA was a $50 million house with a $48 million mortgage.
He said, people on the West Coast are just leveraged.
The money's newer, it's different, it's not,
you know, it's old I guess, so then people just, they're,
and there's more like keeping up
with the Jones's attitude perhaps
Well, LA is filled with that filled filled with that. That's all the whole thing. It's like fake it till you make it, right?
It's the influencer culture. We're renting houses and cars
That's right and taking pictures in front of them like blessed and now I think it's just not even fake it till you make it
It's just fake it till you fake it. Yeah, just keep faking it. Yeah, just keep faking it
You've got to make it fake it harder you fake it. Yeah, just keep faking it. Yeah, just keep faking it. You gotta make it fake it harder
That's right. Yeah, and you know we were just talking about the average price of a home in LA. Is it California itself or LA?
California itself the average price of a home is 1 million dollars, which is absurd so crazy
It's so crazy. That's so much money and and then the average income is like sixty thousand right?
62 is the average income yeah one million is the average home. It's unsustainable the whole but that's
Yes, could you imagine the fucking fear that you would have if you had a one million dollar mortgage?
And you made sixty thousand dollars a year work. What's worse about this whole thing, go look at the houses for a million bucks, they're
dumps.
Yeah.
They're not even nice.
No.
Like it's crazy what you don't get there.
Right.
You'd have to live in like Palmdale to get a nice house for a million dollars.
You know what it is, it's pretty.
California is the girl that's just hot and forever has been hot.
But ruins your life.
Right.
I mean it's just pretty. It's stunningly beautiful.
There are parts of it, like Montecito or Santa Barbara,
you go up there and you go, this is so pretty.
But everybody there's houses burned down four times.
They're on their third divorce, there's been mudslides,
there are kids in rehab, but it's pretty.
A lady I looked at with a house up there. She died in a mudslide, the
real estate lady that showed us the house.
This is what happens. But they'll tell you that in the way they talk.
Santa Barbara, it's always sunset and have this voice. And they tell you
the worst things about something in the very nice Conway. And they go,
they go, this is beautiful. It's a remodel because it burned down and the
family was in it. Not the sale, but it burned down and it's a remodel because it burned down and the family was in it. But it burned down and it's a remodel and they did a great job and the finishes are
beautiful and you know you're not in the path of the mudslide.
You're not in the direct path but you're in you know you're in an area that can have seismic
activity.
We don't love that.
You know the fire department and they got called on this like did the vegetation or something so that when the floods hit?
Montecito was kind of spared like they tried and they got cold out of this
Like the with the LA Fire Department or whatever was like they had to do certain things
We're like they prioritize like that area over all the other areas
Well, the problem is like the fire hits,
the vegetation gets burned down,
and then they get the mudslides
because they don't have anything
protecting the erosion anymore.
Right. Right.
And that's what happened.
They had a big ass fire up there
which they have all the time.
I mean when I lived in LA, where I lived,
I was, we were evacuated three times.
Wow. Three times.
One time it made me burn the fucking
next door neighbor's house.
Two of them. Just for clarity, it's by 2030 but it's still million. I hundred thousand. Oh now. I just saw okay only nine hundred grand. It's a bargain
It's crazy. It's a bargain for someone to make sixty two thousand dollars a year
Yeah, just imagine being in the hole like that. This is the whole problem because you can't make
Even if you made sixty two thousand dollars a year and had zero expenses
Right and didn't have to pay taxes,
it still is going to take you fucking forever to pay that off.
You're never going to be able to pay it off.
This is right before we build, we engineered this crisis.
We chose, we allowed this to happen.
We let foreign billionaires buy stuff.
We let our own companies buy residential real estate.
We let it all happen.
And it's right before, we could enact laws, laws we could stop it anything that's happening could be stopped
But it's right before they start telling people okay live in a pod live in this pod
This is right before they start introducing like okay. You know what's too expensive for you. Guess what we got here's the good news
We've got and they're just gonna 3d printed housing everywhere in the middle of the desert
The last one is funds, right?
Funds buying up houses, residential houses, so they can just rent them out.
Yeah, they're doing a lot now.
They do it all the time.
But I do feel like we are right there where it's going to get so bad, where they're just
going to start, whether it's 3D printing or whatever they're doing, where they're just
going to have houses and go, here we go.
Here we go.
They're all together.
They're all, you know, you're not great.
You have a 15 minute city. There's no reason for you to go outside of your 15 minute city.
You have it. You have a little park over here. Go to your park.
And you're going to live in that and you're going to have an app and your whole life will be an app.
There'll be an app with your city. Everything will be on the app.
Check in when you get outside the city. You won't need to own a car. You won't need to own a house.
It'll be a countdown when you leave the 15 minutes that's right you have 40 hours that's right return and then
climate change is gonna be the big reason they'll use they'll say because
of climate we're limiting automobile ownership we're limiting this we're
limiting that mm-hmm and that seems to be the next step. Yeah, that's a scary one.
The climate thing's a scary one.
Big time.
Because they're using it just like they use everything else.
And you have to be a good person, so you want to support climate change.
You want to support the measures.
You want to do your part.
You don't want to be a psychopath.
We've got to kill these cows.
They're making methane.
These people are bad people, you know, that are doing these things like leaving their home
They're sick. Do you want to be sick?
That's inevitably I think what happens is all of these because all of these things are it's a it's a crisis. That's not
This is not organic right. It's not organic that all of these cities are being bought up
None of this was inevitable all All of this could have been
stopped. And it is right now not being stopped.
Average income 62,000, average house 900,000, and they respond to that.
And then what happens when automation takes over 80% of the jobs?
Then they've got to do the world war. Then they got to get
rid of everybody. Or a lot of people.
Do you think when automation takes over, there's some sort of a massive decrease in population?
Do you think they they provide universal basic income?
What do you think they do?
I don't know what they do.
I think that it seems like right now they're preparing for a world war.
That genuinely if you if you were to zoom out and read the news dispassionately, like without
wanting any answer to come float to the surface, it seems like they are preparing for a world
war.
Every article is like conflict with China inevitable within five years, say many generals.
Every article, every national, every leak, Pentagon leak is US readiness needs
to be, you know, within five years a conflict is inevitable, you know. The draft, you know,
military times, we should bring the draft back. Like, you know, Europe, the future of
Europe is in doubt.
So the military times said that?
Yeah, certainly recently they had a article arguing, I believe, for the return of selective service, for the
draft.
And it's definitely something that it's being talked about.
You know, Germany talked about it recently because of the Ukraine-Russia thing.
And there's this idea now that, yeah.
Lawmakers move to automate selective service registration for all men.
New plan from the House lawmakers would automatically register men for potential
military draft when they hit 18, avoiding potential legal consequences connected to
failing to file the paperwork at the proper time. Jesus Christ. Mandate automatic registration
of all males between 18 and 26 living in America in the Selective Service System, a federal
database used for a military draft in case of national emergency.
Oh, ha ha. Oh, that's fun with the male male part. Yeah
What about trans men? Try to write about them trans men or men get them in yeah time to be men now. That's what I'm saying
Let's go so it does seem like they're preparing for something
And it does seem like
It's weird. It's weird. There's a weirdness in the air. 100%. There's a
weirdness in the air. Yeah, this is late-stage civilization vibes. For sure.
That's what it is. We got late-stage civilization vibes no matter how we slice it.
We might make it through this. Yeah. We might look back at this. I hope we do. Tim and Joe
were so crazy. Yeah. They're making a big deal out of it. Nothing happened. Or this
could be one of those things that people play if you can find a power source. I saved it on my phone
Yeah, let's watch they were talking about well
It's also like what scares me more than anything is the people who aren't feeling this way
Did you see what they did where they gave?
Starlink internet to ask tribe in the Amazon and they all start jerking off. I talked about it on my show this week
They're addicted to porn and social media
Instantly and they overnight the elders tribe elders are freaking out because they lose in control
Yeah, they thought it was gonna be great at first, but now everyone's lazy. No one wants to work
They all just flip into their phones all day. They're in the jungle and they're going through their truck is at first
It's great to look look a picture of a flower. Yeah.
And then three days later, it's like,
there's guys watching women get choked
and kicked and whatever, and now they're losing control.
Yeah, and they're on TikTok all day.
And that's what you look at, you go,
you go all of the, that's why it's so important
that the tech people all be on the same page
for the most part, because that's the way you lose
control the quickest.
And it seems to be very important and somewhat engineered, maybe not top down, but somewhat
coincidental that 90% of the tech people are all on the same page about most things.
Those are the type of people though, they're all ideologically captured That's right the left the tech is all the left
There's some libertarians but very few very few
You know the rebels to have those people in charge of everything
It's just so but it was weird because we we had Republicans and Democratic bankers for a long time and no one really cared
But there's something with the tech people where it's like we can't it seems like they don't want to let
where it's like, we can't, it seems like they don't want to let there be any diversity in thought with that group because they're, they, the levers they hold are too consequential.
But they were that way before the levers were consequential.
Sure.
Except for Microsoft, right?
If you think about Microsoft, they were like liberal, but not financially.
Like they were very, very shrewd financially.
They're all liberal if you can be liberal
and have a $25 million house in Atherton, California.
If that's part of it, and I think that's part
of the way we've designed liberal in America, then.
Well, they're just so removed.
They're very removed from the consequences
of what they're interested in.
And when you talk to them, you do get the feeling
that they are fully in, they fully believe and for good reason that they
control the country now. Yeah and they think they should. That's right. Because they're the
smart ones and they're on the right side. That's correct. And we have to do
everything we can. Yeah. And so when they complied with the government,
you know, when they eliminated things from social media that were problematic to the
narrative, whether it was on YouTube or Twitter or whatever they did, like they thought they
were doing the right thing and that they should be doing this because the people they these
people are stupid. I think everyone thinks they're doing the right thing. And I think
the thing that surprises me the most
is how a lot of those people,
those positions of power aren't cynical.
They aren't, you know, you really would like them
to just go, yeah, it's all bullshit.
We're doing what we have to do.
You'd almost rather that, but they truly believe.
They believe.
They believe in what they're saying.
They really do.
They do, and I think that's if you're
a deep cover CIA agent, you believe. I think that's if you're in the deep cover CIA
Agent you believe I think if you're high up in the military you believe I think you're in the tech
Industry you believe I think no matter where you are you believe because so much of your identity
Becomes dependent on that. Yes for sure
Yeah, also like I experienced that when I was working on a television show when people people used to try to tell me, oh, the government is programming it,
and they're programming these shows to make these shows so that we're stupid.
And people would believe that.
I'm like, you don't understand.
The people making these shows like these shows and watch these shows.
They try to make these shows.
There's no one telling them to make these shows this way,
other than the people that are saying this way this would make us money
Right, that's all they're doing. That's right
Like you you've got this idea that like this is like design like fear factors designed to make people stupid right?
No, everybody had a good time the people making it had a good time the people making it watch those shows
Yeah, like have you seen Survivor? They're out there watching them
Well, they're all in the culture every time Sam Smith, you know
Or just somebody dresses up like a devil or tries to do something
edgy, everyone talks about, well, this is like this engineered thing.
And I'm like, listen, a lot of it is people are trying to get attention.
A hundred percent.
It's what they're trying to do.
Especially Sam Smith.
Right. And you can't be.
And I talked about it when people were really enraged about it, and I'm
like, if you are going to be a non-binary, different, I'm going to sell sex, you can't
look like my uncle.
And that's what Sam Smith looked.
And they were like, well no, he's a Satanist.
I go, if Satan saw him and said, that's who's my representative on our,
Sam Smith looks like my uncle at a Halloween party.
He's drunk.
That's what he looked like.
It really does.
He looks like a guy like me or somebody
I would have grown up with.
No.
So he doesn't have that Bowie thing.
He doesn't have that sexy thing.
I think it's far less they're putting messages
into corrupt people. I think maybe's far less they're putting messages in to corrupt people. I think
Maybe there's people that certainly do that. I think overall it's that
People are lazy and want attention. Yeah, it's a lot easier to get attention that way than to keep being good at something
Dressing up like the devil is one of the best ways to get attention. That's right.
It's one of the oldest ways.
Remember the outrage for the little laws X video?
Of course.
Satan a lap dance.
Yes.
He had the blood.
And again, I'm not saying it's great for a five year old, but it's like focus more on
the house as being a million bucks.
Focus more on all that stuff because that's the stuff I think
that in the long term. Focus more on the potential draft. Focus more on the potential draft. In
the long term, that's what seems to matter. Yeah, but nobody is, you know, people are
just so easily distracted by a good Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef. Sure. It's so easily,
it's so exciting to have all these things happening all the time. It's fun. Yeah, it's fun
It's just a weird fucking time that doesn't seem like it has any like any
There's no patterns that I could see from the past because everything's so accelerated by technology
Like you look at the chaos of the 1960s
I know they threw water on that in the 70s and the 80s was all cocaine and the 90s
It took till like the 2000 the internet comes around for people start exploring some of the ideas that people were
You know really connected to in the 60s. Yeah, but now here we are
No roadmap no roadmap and everything is fucking chaotic. Everything's chaotic, but also maybe we'll get
like a nice
abatement
like maybe for whatever reason,
it doesn't go in the direction
that it seems like it's going.
And that it has like a dead cat bounce.
We're essentially, you know what I mean?
We're like, you know, you get 20 or 30 years
out of this place or more before, because you don't want a war and you don't want nukes to fly and you don't want all this stuff happening
No, and you're you're doing all this while they can AI operate weapons now, including jets
fighter jets are used AI we have drones now that are
Insanely common we probably have UFOs
Sure, I think a good percentage of that shit these people are when do you when can you charter?
UFO that'll be fun soon. You can charter private jet. You should be able to charter a UFO. Yeah
There's already people that are doing SpaceX flights, right? Yeah, you can go you can leave our flat earth
Wow, you can see the firm's fear
Affirmament there should be a flat earth tour that will take you to space and only show you part of it
Yeah, they should give you special glasses where it looks flat. My friend's mother's a flat earther
He goes, what is she? What does she do? I got he was how do we help? I got I don't know
One of my friends Eddie Bravo thinks you're flat. Yeah, I love them to death. Yeah, what are you gonna do?
He watches too many YouTube videos. There's quite a few people that think it's flat
I love him to death. Yeah, what are you gonna do?
He watches too many YouTube videos.
There's quite a few people that think it's flat.
The problem is, like, there's, it's a biblical thing.
The lot of it is based on the depictions of earth and the firmament and all these different
things in the Bible, which, by the way, was written by people.
This idea that people back then had it all laid out perfectly and that the Word of God
was translated absolutely perfectly and nobody ever
added their own special sauce to the mix like they do with everything.
Jared Sussman Yeah, it's crazy.
Pete Slauson Everything ever.
Jared Sussman No, it's definitely interesting. And I think seeing the battle between these ancient
texts and the most modern technology and seeing how they fuse together
Has is gonna make the planet very interesting sure ancient text together with YouTube. That's right. What is this Japanese billionaire?
Pulls plug on private dear moon lunar starship mission, huh?
Why about this just got announced this week?
Well, how much money would it cost? I mean you go to the moon? Is that what the idea was?
Yeah, they remember like Steve Aoki was gonna be on this. Oh, I was trying to tell Steve don't do that
Yeah, it's this plan. Can't we go to the moon? No, no one's ever been. So how could we go?
Well, there's got to be first person. Do you think people went to the moon? I have no idea
I had Bart Sabrell on the podcast and do you think he knows? Yeah Do you know who he is? Yeah. Yeah, of course you do.
You're deep in the conspiracy world.
Well, I'm deep in the truth.
That guy's been on that forever.
I had dinner with him like 20 years ago, at least.
Somewhere around 20 years ago, I met with him
in an Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills.
And he was just laying out his case
while the moon landing was big.
There was a book called Penet penetration by this guy, Ignacio Swan, who's one of these remote viewing
guys. And that's what got me into that stuff. Like some of that more stuff. He wrote this book,
and it was about remote viewing and how like the government was was using remote viewing.
They definitely were trying to use it. They were trying to use it, whether they succeeded or not.
But, you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
Is it is it is it pretty accepted that we didn't go to the moon?
No, no.
I mean, it's controversial still.
It's amongst conspiracy conspiracy theorists amongst those folks.
Yeah, none of those folks thinks we think we went to the moon.
They think it was all horseshit.
Some people think we went to the moon, They think it was all horse shit. Some people think we went to the moon, but we faked the footage.
Because that's so us.
Radiation of space.
So us.
Yeah.
And also, such an us thing to do, to do it and then actually go fuck it.
We got to film something.
There's also like, there is precedent that they did use certain photos that were from
obviously from training missions.
And then they blacked out the background and tried to pretend these are photos of spacewalks.
Because if someone's doing a spacewalk,
there's one of, what's his name,
Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, who's the other guy?
Glenn? Michael Collins.
This is Michael Collins in the Gemini 15.
And what they did was, but this could be overzealous PR people
that are doing this, right? Sure.
At NASA.
They took a photograph of a mission where he was in a training mission and he's suspended
by cables and they're teaching him how to use the spacewalk stuff.
And then they reversed the image and blacked it out, blacked out the background.
See if we can find that.
So those types of things give people an indication that there's a problem
Well, they give you an indication that there's a pattern of deception. They're willing to lie that they're willing to at least
Fuck with the truth for publicity purposes sure. I want good photographs of something
Whistleblower yeah
I'm sure so that's it
So they took the photo on the left and then they just reversed it to the photo on the right and blacked out the screen
So the one on the left obviously they're in training mission the one on the right. They're pretending its base
Which is pretty wild. I mean really fucking wild they did that that is wild. It's wild
But it's then you know Boeing more whistleblowers came out
More yeah, there's more whistleblowers two out. More, yeah, there's like 11 now. There's two more whistleblowers. Well, two of them were murdered, right?
Well, yeah, but I love Boeing.
Do you think they were murdered?
Did they commit suicide?
What happened to those folks?
I think they were murdered.
What's the story?
It was the official story about the two Boeing
whistleblowers who got whacked.
Boeing's a national security company.
It's an American defense contractor.
You're working for Boeing,
you're working for the government.
You come out and whistle blow, how does a fucking FBI like that?
They'll get rid of you too if you start in whistle blowing.
What's the official cause of death for the two folks?
I don't know, like I was sitting in his car.
He shot himself.
One was suicide.
One was suicide because he was sad.
I would be sad too if I disparaged a great company like Boeing.
I love Boeing.
I've always loved Boeing. He probably realized, what have I done I disparaged a great company like Boeing. I love Boeing. I've always realized what have I done to this
Great company probably sucked as a guy no whistleblowers aren't fun, right? There's never been a whistleblower. That's fun
Maybe he was a fake whistleblower. He knew the house of cards was coming
He was coming no pun intended. He pretty you probably went out with him and he always talked about how unsafe these planes were and you're like
Dude, shut up, right? Shut up. I'd fly all the time. a lot of people do he's basically like a flat-earther. Oh, yeah
I don't want to know how bad the planes are let them crash let one of them. Here's the deal
I know one's gonna fix it
So just don't bother me if the Boeing whistleblowers still want to talk safety fears despite to informants dying after speaking out
Don't kill 50 of them to don't think they. 50 people can commit suicide if they're wrong.
50 people can absolutely commit suicide.
Especially if they're disparaging a great company like Boeing.
What does it say here?
John Barnett, 62, a quality control engineer,
just begun testimony in a lawsuit against Boeing in March
when he was found in his truck at a South Carolina motel
with a fatal self-inflicted gunshot wound. Yeah, that's a little fishy.
Joshua Dean, 45, died unexpectedly in early May.
The quality auditor at Spirit Aero Systems, one of Boeing's biggest suppliers,
passed away in the hospital following the onset of a fast-moving infection.
Yeah, they can do that to you. Sure. They can do that to you. They can give you an infection.
Absolutely. They certainly can shoot you in the head
They can do all of that. Yeah, they could definitely shoot you in the head and their their attitude is like hey, you know
Can you can you not?
Fuck up our thing. Yeah, we're trying to fix it. We don't need you whistle-blowing. We're trying to fix it
You're not helping. Yeah, what are you doing? You're killing yourself? You want attention?
Do you think there's a like James Lindsay has a very interesting take on this he thinks that China?
is
They they own a competitor to the Boeing planes
I think the strategy is to destabilize Boeing and have the Chinese planes take over.
So they're killing the whistleblowers?
No, there's some sort of a push
to get this Chinese jet company to get their products,
they're more safe, they're better.
Let's just take those.
Maybe, but Boeing is so deeply enmeshed
in the national security apparatus,
I can't see that ever happening.
Right.
There's no way that we...
But if you wanted to do something like that,
how would you do it?
You would fuck with the safety protocols.
I mean, we do depend on too much for national security.
We do depend on too many things from China already.
Oh, yeah.
Like medicine.
Like all of that.
Like not only medicine, but like chips.
You know, what's that thing that...
What are they doing? Is it reactors? Or what do they bought? What are they? What are we they basically said? We're not selling you these anymore
Well, they're in charge of so many the mines. That's right
You know so many the mines in the Congo are being run by China
So I don't I don't know if we'd be so stupid to just start buying all their stuff. But maybe
Hmm possibility China's homegrown 737 competitor has to wait a while
to fill the vacuum left by Boeing.
Europe says the COMA Comac.
C19.
C19 is too new to approve by 2026.
So they have their own version.
So if they're playing a long game,
what better way to destabilize the competitor than just,
listen, we need to save money.
Let's cut back on some of these safety inspectors and have the mechanics do their own safety
inspection.
Done.
We're done.
We're good.
But that little piece in place, if you just did that, and you just take into account people's
laziness and how people suck at their job already, and then there's no oversight for
the mechanics, what's the possibility that mistakes gonna be made a hundred percent? Yeah?
well corporate espionage is probably one of the their strongest talents and
One of the things they've excelled at imagine. That's how they do it though. Yeah, if Lindsey's right when he said that to me
I was like Jesus might be right
He might be right. I just don't want to sit in a plane and be fucking nervous. Oh, yeah for no reason
Yeah, so I want to ask I want the Boeing people to shut their fucking mouths
Let this thing go down the runway
Let me feel like it's okay
And if it happens it happens, you know what the ultimate conspiracy theory is
Yeah that Trump has a Boeing plane and that's why they're doing this whoa I got you without that something why that one guy excited that
isn't just imagine that imagine that's what they did what do you do what
happens if he dies I imagine that I don't know raises are gonna be if he
gets whacked I mean I don't know if they're gonna do that. I think they're gonna try to go to war with China.
I think they're gonna go to war somehow.
I think they're gonna, if they are gonna do anything,
I think they just fucking try to do something
that either delays an election
or makes an election harder to have or something.
I don't know.
But if they were going to do something, it might have been, it might be that.
And I don't know.
And they may do nothing.
They may just, you know, have a fair election.
I don't know.
Anyway, I don't know.
But this is the question.
This is what we were talking about earlier.
If they're willing to deceive us with the Steele dossier They're willing to deceive us with what they did with Bernie and yes
What they what they did with RFK?
Yeah, and the primary if they're willing to do all that
Why would we think that they wouldn't fuck with the election like this is the one thing that they wouldn't fuck with and then if you?
Question it at all. Yeah, especially Trump because nobody really cared when everybody else questioned the elections, right?
Nobody cared when Hillary went around forever questioning the elections. Nobody cared every everybody has questioned elections in this country for a very long time
Standard move Bush v. Gore
Yes, it's kind of a standard move
It's been getting more and more
It's kind of a standard move. It's been getting more and more malevolent in the sense that, you know, people, you know,
after Trump won, it was a whole thing with Russia.
And then I don't know, I haven't looked at any specific evidence for the fuckery, but
I think there's probably fuckery all over the place.
There's probably fuckery in every election.
There's got to be some.
It's not zero.
The amount of election fraud isn't zero.
This one, they have to do something big.
This one will have to be, if something's going to happen, it's probably going to have to
be something big.
They're going to have to wag the dog in such a way that America's like, whoa.
And there are already some articles coming out being like, whoa. And there are already, there's some articles coming out
being like, you know, could a foreign government
perhaps take advantage of, you know.
So who knows what their plan,
I just know that they don't want him in
in a way that I've never seen.
Never, never.
It's never been more transparent.
It's never been more transparent
how much they do not want him in
And I'm not even saying that
You can't criticize him or you have to love him or anything. I'm just speaking
Simply again from looking at the measures taken since he announced a candidacy and here's what's really crazy
Yeah, I think they thought they did enough propaganda wise before 2016 for him to lose.
So when you watch all the news reports and all the coverage, it was like 90% Hillary
was going to win.
That's right.
And then as the night went on, everybody was like, holy shit, he won.
So they went through the egg on their face.
They went through all that.
They're not going to let that happen again.
And now,
he's an overwhelming favorite. Yes. Like he's a favorite. If the election happened now and the election was fair, he would win. Right? Yes. Like he's several points ahead of Biden, right?
What's the latest polls? Because he went up in the polls after the conviction. Which was such a
mistake for them to try to do that because he raised $40 million, something
like that.
No, it's way more than that now.
Maybe more.
I think it's like 100 million.
It crashed his campaign website.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is that poll?
How do they question everybody real quick?
Like when some news breaks, what do you think now?
Right, who do they question?
At 6 PM, how do they get a new update?
I always say this.
They're only getting results from people dumb enough
to answer polls.
So that, by the way, is a skewed response.
For sure.
Polls in today's day and age,
there's no reason to answer them.
Why are you doing that?
But there's also a social stigma to saying Trump.
Oh yeah.
So I think that you have to weigh the numbers like that.
Right.
So there is a little bit of a social stigma
to saying Trump. Mm-hmm. Or certainly there was. Maybe it's going away, but there was. So you
might want to weight the poll to that as well. That's a hundred percent true. And
go there's a certain percentage of people that are lying in saying Biden
who aren't gonna vote for Biden. Right. So a close race might really mean that
Trump is up a few percentage points. I think he's up a few percentage points already.
I think he was up like six points.
I talked to a lot of hardcore leftists that are like really resigned to him winning and
don't care because they say, well, they said we did not vote for Biden to go to war with
Ukraine, you know, to go to war with Russia through Ukraine.
We didn't vote for Jack up inflation, jack up inflation.
We didn't vote for an unending commitment to whatever Israel wants to do in Gaza.
We didn't vote for house prices being higher than they've ever been.
Interest rates being higher than they've ever been.
We didn't vote for any of that.
He's done a lot for the environment, Biden, supposedly.
But also a lot of people didn't vote for all the taxes that come along with that.
What is the new one they're doing?
They're going after the guy from the Epoch Times.
For embezzlement or something?
Epoch Times is a hardcore right-wing side.
Which is hilarious.
Epoch Times is hilarious.
That is very funny.
This is the end.
Welcome to the end.
Welcome to the end.
Money laundering.
Yeah, charges alleged $67 million global money laundering scheme.
So what's, see, this is the headline, right?
What's the actual story?
What's a good place to go?
Probably AP is probably the more balanced.
Go to AP, just for the fuck of it.
All right. What will become
of the Epoch Times as chief financial officer accused of money laundering? Okay. What is
the accusation? What is Epoch Times? Do federal prosecutors in New York charged? Boy, say
that dude's name. Weidong Guan of Secaucus, New Jersey, chief financial officer of the
Epoch Times of steering at least $67 million in criminal proceeds, much from fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits to
the company, its affiliates and himself.
Guan pleaded not guilty, but was suspended by the Epoch Times, which agreed to cooperate
with prosecutors.
The case falls into question the future of a company that was a key online supporter
of Trump and a spreader of conspiracy theories
hmm, so what is the
67 million dollars of
Unemployment that's what it's saying
How do they do it?
How'd they do that?
What is it? This is all just like what does it mean for the for the epoch times?
But what is like how did he do it?
They don't say what they're accusing them of the accused enough of stealing money stealing money
launder my laundry money I guess and that's you think the top executive epoch
so he's just a guy that worked there a right-wing media company has been
Arrested and charged with laundering at least 67 million dollars installed so he might have actually done it and they might just mean
They're not trying to close the company right? He's not though. He's just the chief financial officer
Right right so he might have actually done it
I don't know chief financial officer was arrested Monday and the indictment, headed up on May 23rd, was unsealed, he entered a plea of not guilty
as lawyer, federal public defender. Why does he have a public defender?
I guess he lost all his money. That seems crazy.
Is that how it works? That seems crazy. Declined to comment, if convicted, Mr. Guan faces a maximum sentence of 20 years for the
money laundering charge and 30 years for each bank fraud.
Oh, geez, he's fucked.
Epoch Times affiliated with Falun Gong, a spiritual movement banned in China and was
for years an obscure free print newspaper dedicated largely to criticizing the Chinese
Communist Party.
In recent years, the outlet transformed itself into a prominent supporter of Donald J. Trump
and his allies on the right.
Oh, they're probably grifting.
It's probably a grift.
They're trying to make a couple of bucks.
It's a grifty company.
Yeah.
According to prosecutors, Mr. Guan ran a sprawling transnational scheme over four years to buy
prepaid debit cards on the internet at a discount using cryptocurrency
And then deposit the cards money into both personal and company accounts the debit cards were loaded with illegally obtained funds
Prosecutors said some of which was fraudulently obtained
unemployment insurance benefits
Wow, this seems deep
Whoo, but I mean how long gone but please, because if you're a fucking type of
dude who has a website that's basically dedicated to criticizing the Chinese Communist Party,
and then all of a sudden you flip and become a pro-Trump supporter, that sounds to me like
one of those fucking Facebook pages that Russia takes over. They used to have a memes page.
And then it's a Black Lives Matter page and then it becomes a trans rights page
Yeah, they're just there's a ton of those folks out there grifting if one of those guys was also involved in an illegal money laundry
Yeah, that seems like go and show some chaos. That's probably what they do. Go show some chaos. It's a great job
I'd like to do it in China for us. I
Mean if they're hiring these,
why can't America, let's get an army of lunatics,
people like me, send me into China, I'll start a problem.
They'd kill me quickly.
Yeah, you couldn't do it there.
That's why we lack the advantages,
because you could come here and really start some shit.
Do you think that our government is doing that here too?
I think elements of
it probably are for sure. They have to be. They have to be. Why? They must be. If
China is doing that and we know that Russia is doing that, if we know that
they're doing that. Well then what would Navalny have been? Let's think about this,
right? Now Navalny might be, he might be a great Russian patriot who was
discussable Vladimir Putin but I do know we
started his career with very different views than the views he began espousing
after. He seems like a guy that the CIA has a conversation with and then becomes
a prominent crowd. I'm not saying that it's possible. But so we're doing things like that,
probably. And then they're doing things to us where they're like, making my aunt kind
of more racist. They're starting with a pretty racist person, but they're twisting her and
they're getting her more racist. With memes? With memes and with all kinds of crap.
Things they share that might not even be true.
Yeah, she's like a Long Island, because these Long Island boomers now, they're just, they're
like, they're just with throwing stuff at them and they're just like catching it with
their teeth like a dog.
They share it to their on our Facebook.
Share it and they don't know what's going on.
And they're just kind of like, it's all, you know,
it's all not my mom's, my friend's mother thinks
McDonald's is serving human meat.
So that's where we are, you know,
a certain percentage of the population is schizophrenic
because they can't handle all the stuff we talked about here.
It's hard for people to realize how corrupt things are,
but how they've always been.
So if you learn all of this in an hour, your mind melts.
And then you start going, is Chrissy Teigen a vampire?
Because every other sec, up is down and black is white.
Yeah, there's too much information.
It's too much information.
But if you know about JFK or RFK or Martin Luther King or Quintelper,
anything, you have the context to put a lot of this stuff in.
So you're not like, oh, your mind doesn't melt immediately.
It melts slowly.
Real slow.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you just can keep people fighting about everything
and everything being something that they have to uncover
and all this chaos, you can get a lot done behind the scenes.
You need to.
You have to have people completely scattered, have no...
Yeah, you can't have people like calm.
No.
And everybody fine and paying attention to what you're doing.
And then you gotta bless it.
You gotta go every now and then you gotta go,
you know, and then there's like an NFT party,
everybody has like a time when the crypto is killing it,
and everybody gets a little money,
and then they go, okay, well, we got to clamp down on this.
Right.
And then the internet's free, and then like,
man, let's clamp down on this.
And it's just, they oscillate between clamping down
on things and then letting people run with them
for a little bit.
God damn it.
Yeah, it's a delicate balance.
You imagine being in charge of chaos. Oh. Yeah, it's a delicate balance. You imagine being
in charge of chaos. Oh, is it you think there's a guy that's like runs a chaos
department in the deep state? Well, I think there's a good there's many guys
that do and ladies. And do you think let's not forget them. What is their view
of the world? If they're the ones that are instigating all this chaos and
they're the ones that are fueling it online if they're working to actively do that and
comment on things on Twitter and
Get things crazy
What is their view of the world?
I think so cynical I think the the only view those people have ever had is the alternative is worse
Right if we don't think that's the only view they've had. I think when they were doing MK Ultra on people, I think they were going the alternative is worse. It's worse. And you can justify a lot of things. When they were carpet bombing Vietnam, it's the alternative is worse. I think that's kind of the only view that those guys can have in that echelon of the national security apparatus, they can't, I
don't think they're analyzing it too much outside of that.
Jesus Christ.
This is not leaving me feeling good, Tim.
I was hoping to be more...
Well we're going to tell jokes tonight.
Tonight should be fun.
It's such fun to tell jokes.
Are you splitting your time? You're all over the place now? I'm all over the place. Tonight. Tonight should be fun. It's fun to tell jokes.
Are you splitting your time? You're all over the place now?
I'm all over the place. I spend most of my time in the French protectorate in Monaco,
where I find honest people.
And it's so good to have honest people around you.
I'm very susceptible to environments.
There's a lot of people that live on boats. No, no, no.
I'm all over the place.
You know, me and Sam Talent were just in Europe
for like three weeks.
It was amazing.
I'm here.
Sam was just here.
I'm gonna spend a lot of time here, I think,
in the summer and fall because now I'm off the road.
So it's like, I'm gonna be here.
I'll be popping in LA a little bit.
Nice.
You know, I'll be around.
We're doing something cool with Netflix.
We can't say it.
It's not a standup special.
It's something cool.
It's like an election type special thing. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah. It's not a stand-up special something cool. It's like an election type special thing. Oh
That's exciting. Yeah, it's it's you know, it'll be fun and I'm excited about that and you know
It's just fun to do fun stuff and who knows we don't know. Yeah, it's fun. It could all
Work out
It could all work out. It probably will all work out. That's right
I mean you can look back on there's a
Assyrian tablet, I think yeah fucking
4,000 years ago or something like that where I'm seeing I'm pretty sure I saved it where they were talking about the end of the world
Yeah
They got saved it it's just one of those things it's like human beings always have that feeling that it's all falling apart
They always have that feeling that at a certain point in time all of our luck's gonna run
out and it has.
That's the other thing.
Like it actually at one point in time-
It is a great Eddie Pepitone joke where he goes, you know, every generation thinks theirs
is the one where the world ends.
He goes, but we are right.
Here it is.
Assyrian clay tablet dating to around 2800 BC
bears the inscription,
our earth is degenerative in these later days.
There are signs that the world
is speedily coming to an end.
Bribery and corruption are common.
Children no longer obey their parents.
Every man wants to write a book.
What happened? I was trying to get the full quote the... What happened? But I had it right there. And the end of the world is evidently approaching. That's amazing.
So this is like, this is a good way to end this. To just explain to people. This fear
that we have had is just, we are in a constant state of change and a constant battle of
truth and propaganda and it's always been that way and that this tablet from
4,800 years ago and it'll always be that way it's always gonna be it's always
gonna be we're monkeys we're crazy monkeys so find find something fun out
there to do yeah like come to the mothership if you can come to the
mothership and not this weekend it's soldhip and and not this weekend. It's sold out
Are you here this weekend? I'm here this week. Oh shit. I'm here weekend
I'm here, baby. I'm in that's exciting. So we're gonna do following gong
Yeah, it's pure Chinese spiritual warfare. If you like Chinese spiritual warfare
These shows will be for you the text message. I'm gonna be sending you in the future gonna green oh you're going to yeah I'm gonna try to I'm trying to switch over you're going to Android I'm gonna see what I don't like being
trapped I fell it goes trap I got a guy I don't like it either I get anxiety
about switching when I see like crazy when that green text message comes in
it's gonna be so weird though but it it is weird. The whole thing, it's weird that we're so trapped
in this wonderful Apple bubble.
They do a great job, make a great phone.
It's a great phone.
Everything works great, it's great.
I love the way you can send videos
and AirDrop people and FaceTime people, I love it.
But I also don't like-
But you gotta have the new charger all the time.
Well no, not anymore, now it's USB-C.
Everything's USB-C. Because Europe is actually forcing Apple to comply. You gotta have the new charger all the time. Well, no, not anymore. Now it's USBC. Everything is USBC.
Because Europe is actually forcing Apple to comply.
All of these social media sites, or whatever it is,
Apple's not social media.
But all these tech companies, they have downsides.
And then they have things that are really good.
Facebook had things that were really good.
But they also sell maids in the Philippines.
I was watching. There was an Instagram page that was all really good. Facebook had things that were really good, but they also sell maids in the Philippines.
I was watching, there was an Instagram page that was all dedicated to finding people in
prison that you could date when they get out.
Thank God. Thank God.
I was looking at it like how many people who are just like Captain Sabajo are just at home
looking at these people going
It's a redeemable country meet an inmate lonely inmates in the u.s. Seek pen pals
I just typed in hot single inmates
They're like making like a singles video
Well, there's got to be guys and gals that are interested in that like that's their thing
I love a person. I get someone right look they can't they don't know where to stay they can stay with me
Yeah, meet a hot prison pal. You'll be glad you did exclamation point
Well, if you want to meet people that have been in jail come to one of my shows
And there's a very good chance is a high likely. We all meet them. Yeah high likelihood
All right, let's wrap this bitch up. You're the best.
Thank you.
You're the best.
Thank you.
Appreciate you.
I'm gonna come see you this weekend.
I'm excited.
I hope so.
I wanna see your set.
Thank you, buddy.
Tell everybody.
Don't tell me which night.
I'll be nervous.
Okay, I won't.
I'm kidding.
It's just Tim J. Dillon.
It's Tim Dillon Show.
Tim J. Dillon, right? On Instagram. Tim J. Dillon on Instagram and X.
And then the Tim Dillon Show, if you like, podcasts where people yell.
It's the best. You're the best ranter on earth.
Well, that's very sweet of you.
Your show, you by yourself talk about things is one of the great joys in life.
Thank you so much.
My pleasure. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye-bye.