The Joe Rogan Experience - #2168 - Tyler Fischer
Episode Date: June 25, 2024Tyler Fischer is a stand-up comic, actor, and filmmaker. His latest special, "The Election Special | LIVE at Comedy Mothership," is available now via YouTube. https://youtu.be/FmvJjMGX7hw?si=PyOsFVH4a...s8HMHBD www.tylerfischer.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Oh, hey Joe Rogan. What's going on?
Is there a left or right here or does it matter?
No, it's all mono. What's cracking, brother?
Oh, yeah, let me just get a little little confidence here
I'm so small. This is like a large coffee to me
The they'll meet you pee. They'll make you pee. That's one thing this press. I'm peeing right now, dude
I'm just gonna do the Biden just let it out Ari peed in that seat three or four times yesterday
Yesterday. Yeah, he pissed into bud light cans
He's so disgusting Ari Shaffir. Oh, yeah, every time he's here. I didn't know he's cans. He's so disgusting.
Ari Shaffir?
Oh yeah, every time he's here.
Oh, I didn't know he's here.
He pees into things.
I'm trying to get him to move here.
He's not going to.
He's a New York rat.
Yeah.
But he's here all the time.
I mean, he might as well live here.
He's here like four or five times a year.
Yeah, just good enough.
It's good enough.
He should.
He should move here.
He's so funny, man
I love watching him at the Comedy Cellar because he's one of the guys that just fucking goes for it
Yeah, he definitely goes for it. It's got him in a lot of trouble
It all comes down the wash though, right? Well, if you're talented, yeah, yeah, and he's definitely talented
He's just a wild boy
I watch the crowd when he's on because I like to see the crowd just slowly kind of
He's working through stuff. He gets messy. I like that
Yeah, they put us they put me and him on at the at the late late shows now in the cell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
What is that? What is New York scene like these days?
Well, I'm here now
scene like these days? Well I'm here now. We'll say that. With an American flag out on it. This is what it does to you man. Dude before I moved here I was a 60 year old Jamaican
woman. Look what Texas does to you. It gets you in it's bones. It's just a fun thing to
be. It's fun to be a Texan. Someone the other day on the street said, goes, you look like Kid Rock fuck Zach Elifonakis. I was like, that works.
Yeah, that tracks.
How long have you been out here now?
Oh, like two weeks.
It's like a dream.
This has been a weird dream, including this.
It's all a weird dream.
How long have you been doing stand-up now?
I mean, I got on stage when I was 17 or 18 in high school.
Started doing improv and stand up on stage.
That's almost 20 years.
Oh, wow.
And then I went to college.
High school?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was failing on a high school.
I needed like a B to pass.
And I was friends with the acting teacher.
We would drink together.
What?
Public school, brother, public school.
Wow.
Yeah, we would drink together and smoke.
And I thought if I take his class, he's got to give me an A
or I can get him sent to jail probably
for all this bad behavior.
And so I took this acting class and I got on stage
and he pulls me aside.
Like day one, he goes,
this is what you need to do with your life.
Wow.
And I go, okay, okay, stop drinking. Stop smoking. I was like in a gang
I was growing wheat. Yeah, I was a nightmare kid
People think I'm just this nice little guy. I was a fucking monster and getting on stage and I got all that energy out and
It's what I've been doing every day since Wow
That's cool that someone recognized that because most of the time they don't.
It takes one person. It's insane.
It takes one person and that one person literally can change your life because you're in this part of your life where you don't know what the fuck you're going to do.
No!
And then someone gives you a direction and they say, hey, you're really good at this. This is your thing.
Oh my God, I found my thing. That day you go home and you're like good at this this is your thing that oh my god I found my
thing that day you go home you're like I found my thing yeah he had us first
class we had to dance on stage he was like he goes you're gonna fuck oh he was
wild dude he was a playwright he'd take the
metronorphine from Connecticut New Haven to put on little plays and I just
thought I just thought it was the sexiest thing.
It was like this guy was living in the 1920s or something.
Like a real artist.
Yeah, yeah.
And he goes, we're gonna humiliate ourselves day one.
He goes, it's gonna be so bad,
so everything you do after this is gonna be a breeze.
And I've still used that to this day with standup.
You gotta get messy.
So he said, we're gonna go do the silliest dances. And I went home, I to this day with stand up. You gotta get messy. You gotta, so he said,
we're gonna go do the silliest dances.
And I went home, I was practicing in the bathroom,
just sweating, turning, I've never performed.
And I'd get on stage and it'd be like, sillier, weirder,
weirder, until you just had a mental breakdown.
And then after that, doing a little Shakespeare was fine.
Oh, that's an interesting strategy.
Yeah. That makes sense. It makes someone break you down and go go you're allowed to fuck up. You're allowed to get messy
Yeah, and that's that's why I got a place here cuz I went to your club and I saw Brian Holtzman and
I go wait a minute. You're allowed to do this
Where you're allowed to say whatever you want well Brian Holtzman was like a hero of comedians in Los Angeles,
but he didn't get good spots, unfortunately.
They put him on really late at the end of the show,
and it was a wild thing to watch.
You know, you're watching like 20, 30 people in the audience,
this guy saying the most hilarious but yet horrific things.
And he just never got the respect that he deserves.
I've known Brian for, I guess, around 30 years now.
When we first started at the store,
we were like young hotshots.
He was like this young, dark-haired, slicked back,
like really interesting guy,
like really, like same style
That he has now he had back then I can't imagine him with any more energy than he has now though
It was a same guy. Oh his energy has not waned at all, which is why he's so good
You know like some some people slow down it sucks. It sucks to see yeah
You know cuz they slow down you like you don't want to say anything to them
You know like hey, man. You gotta pick it up
Yeah, whatever the fuck you used to be you gotta bring that back turn it up a little bit. Yeah, you're a little too
Casual up there. I don't say lazy, but yeah, you're too tired. Yeah, you gotta fire the fuck up
Holstman never lost that that kind of that fuck
the fuck up. Holtzman never lost that that kind of that fucking crazy. But he didn't have a show like a real showcase. He didn't have like a real you know like
a real awesome spot where he could perform in front of crowds that weren't
tired and hadn't seen three hours of comedy. But so now we've got him
headlining. Yeah. You know and and people come to see him
They know who he is they get excited people have seen him multiple times. Yeah cult following here. It's great. Definitely does
Yeah, so that was it. I saw him once and then I was I went to like the open mic or whatever
You know, I was in town doing the Vulcan I think and then I go I'm gonna try to get an audition Adam wasn't here
Flew back got the audition,
then did a couple spots, then did a guest spot
on Holtzman's show, and then I was in the car in New York.
I pull over, I'm just looking at apartments in Texas.
I just call the guy, I go, hey, can I move there?
I made him an offer.
I made him an offer that was like insane.
I'm renting.
He literally goes, are you fucking with me, dude?
And the next day he goes, they you fucking with me dude? And the next
day he goes, they took your offer. And I was, and that was it. Wow. Yeah. And it was like,
I know Ron White calls it comedy camp. It feels like that when you're, when I'm landing
here, it feels like Camp David or something. Yeah. Ari said it yesterday. He said you made
a festival here every week. It's like a festival. It's a festival. Yeah, I wasn't sure if I'd made the right move and then I'm on the plane and it's
Roseanne bar
The next row back Sebastian Maniscalco, and I'm right behind him. Well, I was losing my fucking mind. I
Was I'll go this is it yeah
Well, whenever you don't know if you should do something and you like you want to do something
But then you have that little oh, I don't know is this right you gotta always go for it
I do it you gotta go for it. You get better at that as you age
You know it's like you have to you got to fuck up a lot, and they go
I don't fuck up a little less this time yeah the fuck up thing
But it's also just like taking chances going for things is very important every time I've ever done it
It's been good my whole life every single time whether it's first time going on stage
You know even this even like moving here sure, you know, cuz I have a family and I end up business, you know
I like this podcast that requires guests and yeah
I had all these people that already lived in LA had this built-in, you know group of people that I would have on
it's just like
Coming out here was but I was like this is this is the move and then open in the club
It's like this is the move. Yeah, and it's gonna be fucking annoying
It's gonna be a lot of energy a lot of stuff going on a lot of things to pay attention to but that's what really needs
How you get to practice your hour? Yeah times a week and that's what the road comes to you. That's great. That definitely helps a lot
It's like you see so much healthier. It's crazy. How much better you feel you don't travel every week
It's nuts like I just started touring what this year it wears you. Holy shit. Yeah, it's like getting drunk
Yeah, it's like getting drunk
And then you have a show that night and then you have another show then you fly home
And you get drunk flying home because you know it feels like when you land like you're hungover
Yeah, he's just like oh, why am I so worn the fuck out with the heat here man? Yeah, you get used to that
Kind of why I understand Biden a little more. I've been walking around just like
Shit in my pants.
Ha.
You silly boy.
Did you, I was telling you before this,
this mayoral race in San Francisco,
this might be the end.
This might be, like San Francisco is a failed city.
I mean, it really is.
But there's no better
Indication of how failed it is than listening to this debate
Listening to these people argue about what's important in San Francisco. This was on the Jesse water show
You got a lesson in this cuz how many drag queens do you know?
You were at the debate last week and couldn't name
Any drag queens on your own.
I was wondering if you could have this as an opportunity to redeem yourself and if you
could name three LGBTQ advisors for your campaign and three drag queens in San Francisco.
Just imagine. Shut the fuck up. And that was the thing she was going to sit down on. drag queens in San Francisco San Francisco
Just imagine
and that was the thing she was going to sit down on
this is the actual current mayor
of San Francisco
London Breed
and she's like
can you name three drag queens
can you name
three mentally ill men
who dress up like the most TARDISH, caricaturist...
Like famous or just like Pixie that does the, you know, the kids story hour down at the library?
I know Lexis. Lexis, yeah. Lexis down at the clubs does the burlesque show.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, no, sit back and enjoy. This is... sit back and enjoy this is sit back and enjoy the show when woke woke ism just takes on a
This energy and and it gets crazier and crazy. I mean look at the the sexuality acronym
It used to be gay and lesbian G. Oh, it is
Watching politicians have to recite that. Oh, it's so um, it's like
Yeah, yeah Trudeau has them all down. But my favorite is 2Ai Plus.
Plus is like everybody's in this gang
that's not a white male.
It's basically everything.
You mean the American flag?
That would be a great flag to represent everybody.
Biracial people of color.
There's so many different things.
Indigenous, there's two
spirit, two spirits in there, which is my favorite.
Yeah.
I'm a two spirit.
What the fuck are you?
Why not three?
Why not four?
Why not 45?
You're limiting yourself.
And then A, which is hilarious too, because how do they have any say?
They're asexual.
Asexual.
Like how are they in there with the perverts? How are they in theresexual. Like, how are they in there with the perverts?
How are they in there with the freaks?
How are they in there with the transgender people? How are they in there with fucking guys wearing leather thongs and G-strings walking down the street with bright lights?
We don't want any part of this.
How does the A's... How are the A's in that? They just don't wanna fuck.
My friend came out as bisexual, this guy in New York, and he goes, well I've been so oppressed.
I'm like, am I supposed to feel bad that you get to fuck everybody, really?
Just like, uh, uh, uh.
He's been oppressed how so?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, how are you oppressed?
Well, it's a fun thing to say.
It's a fun thing to say.
Yeah, and it also gives you like a position where people have to go, oh my god, I'm so
sorry. You know, what did I do?
George Bush was talking about pride the other day,
and I was like, if he was-
W?
Yeah, he was on some interview,
and I was like, if he was president today,
having to, you know, the LMAFOs,
the HGTVs, the PB&Js, these are tasty folks, you know.
My cousins are translucent.
Now watch this drive.
But think about how much has changed since him.
Well he is so reasonable now in comparison.
I used to have a joke about Bush getting elected about the Iraq war and that there's people
in the back of the room and their idea was the only
way to find out how dumb people really are is to have a dumb president and see
if everybody freaks out because the only way they know that he's dumb is if
they're smarter than him yeah so the only way to find out is put a dumb
president and see how everybody responds and then it was all about the Iraq war
and all these things happen like what they bleed and what they did and then at the end
Of it. I go I think the people in the back of the room are going I think we can go dumber
And they were right. Yeah, they were so right. Well people act like Trump and Biden are the first with Quino. We're
We had an autistic cowboy run in the country for eight years. We wanted eight years of that
Yeah. Yeah, but people didn't want it at the end, which is why Obama won.
Yeah, you know, which is what this country always does. We swing hard one way and then we swing the other way.
Duncan Trussell said this when they were smashing windows and looting during the George Floyd protests.
Duncan said, dude, this is gonna be so bad because we're gonna have a right-wing authoritarian president next.
this is gonna be so bad, because we're gonna have
a right-wing authoritarian president next.
And I thought about it, I was like,
God damn, he's probably right.
Because that's really what happens.
There's like an overcorrection.
One way, and another, like the San Francisco,
London breed, mayor thing,
this is an overcorrection to discrimination.
So there is some discrimination of gay people.
There's discrimination of all kinds of people.
How now though?
What's the-
Well there's still, there's still, with gay people for sure, there's still people that
are homophobic, especially religious people.
It's too complicated now, because it's like, well there's that, and then there's, you
know, gay guys who dress up as women who want to read to kids, and then there's those who
cut their dicks.
It's too com-
Yeah. My dad came out of the closet when I was seven so I was raised in this stuff.
He came out as racist but he- No he's gay. I got a gay dad. I have two dad- mom
remarried and then my dad with a husband and so it's funny I try to talk about
this like well shut up straight white guy you know this isn't your lived
experience I'm like no it is. It is.
Do you say this on stage?
Do you talk about it on stage?
I talk about it everywhere.
Yeah, people started booing me when
I started talking about this in New York City a long time ago.
It was the first time where I talked about my personal life,
because everyone has a crazy life.
What were they booing?
Well, they're just like, you can't talk about.
That's their life.
You can't talk about what it's like to be a gay person and it's like when I was seven I
was hiding it from my friends so I was living like a closeted gay guy I went to
insane lengths to hide my dad having a boyfriend because back this was 1993
that's when it was you know and prior that's when it was, you know, and prior. That's when it was bad.
But I imagine what guys like that think
of what's going on now.
To be like, you're like a two-spirit,
heteronormative, whatever this shit is.
And back then it was bad.
But.
When I was in middle school, my friend Josh,
his mom was gay, and he didn't tell us and nobody nobody talked about it
But I lesbian moms a little cooler
She made she had the whole thing like she was wearing the sleeveless vest with the arms
She was a big lady and she had a girlfriend with short hair that was always over the house
It was like the whole like you'd go who's that lady? Oh, that's my mom's friend
Why is she always over you she live with you exactly what it was one of them things
Yeah, but I lived in San Francisco
And so when I moved to Boston I moved to Florida for a few years
Then we moved to Boston like I had been around gay people from the time I was seven to eleven like my neighbors were gay
My aunt used to go over and play bongos with them naked they would smoke pot and play bongos
I remember so I was just way cooler
Yeah, I mean she just loved the fact she just be naked around guys and no one cared
But it was just this thing where like the whole neighborhood was gay everybody was gay everybody gay was super normal to me. I did
But so my friend was like hiding the fact that his mom was gay
You know we never really pressed him on it, but me and my other friend were like you know his mom's gay
Yeah, obviously, but you know we're 13
Like what are you gonna do for men? I think it was associated with AIDS. Oh, so I remember I was in the car and
You know we would like raise money for AIDS runs and all this stuff and And my friends like, that's the AIDS thing, right?
And I would tell them, my dad's an attorney.
I would tell them, because he'd go, this is my partner.
And I would tell my friends, they'd go,
why is your dad's partner sleeping over?
That's his law partner.
I'd go, they're working on a case.
They're gonna be up all night, fellas.
If you hear some banging and moaning,
instead of they're recreating the murder, they're in there.
I would come up with this, probably why I'm a good writer because I...
Back then it was not accepted at all. When did everybody figure it out? I never told anybody. Wow.
Yeah, I think I was in college the first time I told somebody because I was a theater major
So it was like I was safe. Yeah. I was the weird one being straight. And it also gives you like social props.
It does, yeah. Street cred. Yeah, I'll take whatever I can get it also gives you like social props it does. Yeah street cred
Yeah, I'll take whatever I can get now when you got resting January 6 face man. You need something
Do you think you have January 6? Well you do with that hat resting January 6? Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah, I don't know. I don't care. I I was raised to hate America all that bullshit. I fucking love this country man
It's my love it. There's no reason to hate America all that bullshit. I fucking love this country man. It's my love it
There's no reason to hate America. No, we should always hate bad behavior in all groups of people left and right
Yeah, shitty evil people on both sides. That's what we're supposed to hate. We're not supposed to
In the history its history got honor it even like the stuff growing up with my dad and stuff
I had a lot of resentment about that,
but I thought, you know what, that was my burden to bear.
And I have friends who saw my, gay was bad back then,
but they'd see my dad being a great dad
and cooking us dinner.
And so their introduction to a homosexual
was this normal guy.
My dad, he looks like you.
He's like, he looks kinda like Bruce Willis and fuckin'
he's just a normal dude.
He's not a feminine, he doesn't do the like,
yeah, it's like, you know.
Which is interesting, right?
That there's different groups of gay people.
We associate gay with people who behave
in a very specific
Exaggerated way yeah, but they're the loudest ones on the floats with their dick out and a four-year-old's face Well, that's what's weird. It's like it's not just gay pride. It's overtly sexual behavior pride
You know those things should have nothing to do. They're so different like the gay
I know so many gay guys that are just like you would never know unless they told you they were gay
They just seemed like men. Do you think people are actually?
homophobic or did they're just they have an issue with it getting sort of
Convoluted into this sexual thing that our kids are seeing I think people who are homophobic just lack nuance.
They don't understand that there's weird people in every group.
Like would you be heterophobic if you found out about people that are child molesters?
You know, like if there was men that wanted to date 14 year old girls and have sex with
14 year old girls, you wouldn't be heterophobic because of that.
Just like you shouldn't be homophobic if there's gay men
that want to groom young boys.
It's not about the gay, it's about assholes.
It's about shitty members of society,
and it's about a lot of them are people
who are victims themselves.
And then they perpetuateuated again later in life.
It's almost like being bitten by a vampire. One of the things that happens with a lot
of these molested guys-
That's how you become gay, by the way.
Blah!
Bitten by a vampire?
Yeah.
But a lot of these molested guys wind up doing it to other kids, which is fucking insanely
evil. Like, their life got destroyed and then they want up destroying other people's lives
I think it's something like 30% become molesters crazed
This is my priest and I don't know the backstory on this, but he blew his brains out when I was eight years old
Jesus dude. Yeah, yeah seven and eight was rough for you seven was dad coming out and then
Priest what did the priest do that? He wanted to blow his brains out. don't know, but I always I always think about it cuz I'm like
Where my blowjobs that bad?
Were they that bad?
Was it I don't know after the book. He didn't touch me cuz I wasn't a part of it Catholic
Methodist Methodist interesting are they allowed to get married? Yeah, I think so, huh?
The Catholic blow their brains out he did it at the altar. Oh my god. Yeah front of everybody
No, no off day. Thank God, but I remember going back in like the next day
And we just had a new guy and he had a mustache. He looked like Ned Flanders and I'm like
No, I can't I can't do this in like did they tell everybody what happened? Yeah
Did he leave a note uh give me prob maybe I don't know does anybody know like what was wrong no I
googled it it's been wiped I can't even find the story boy I know yeah they're
good at wiping that there's a fucking there's a horrible thing that you
people connect priest with child molesters because you know like yeah
just like we're talking about other things,
there's a group of them.
Well, I wonder if by occupation, if it's the most.
I can't say for sure, but.
It's certainly associated the most.
Like, it's not like NASCAR drivers.
Imagine if that many NASCAR drivers were molesting kids,
they'd shut NASCAR down in a fucking heartbeat.
Sure, they'd just make them go slower.
The Catholic church gets tax exempt status, right?
You know they're literally guilty of moving people who are molesters to another place where they can molest new people and so turn
Them in that's what a Pope Benedict got in trouble for it's one of the reasons why he stepped down
Really? Yeah, he was
Responsible for moving this one guy that went on to molest
a hundred deaf kids. Yeah. Yeah, they would move these people to places where they could
get away with it instead of turn them in. And I don't know if they gave them counseling.
I mean, what the fuck? The thing about that particular evil, the evil of child molesters is the don't it doesn't seem to be able to be fixed like no one
you know if you were a guy who was like a like a
Wolf of Wall Street guy he did a lot of crazy shit with the stock market
But then you realize like I fucked up. You know I should have never done that I was doing drugs
I fucked up people that kind of accept that you're not a thief anymore
Yeah, you can go do talk shows, you know, you can write a book and people go wow that guy
They made a movie out of him, you know, Leonardo Caprio Leonardo DiCaprio played him at a fucking movie and now he's out there
He's back, but we don't think that way about child molesters. It's the one
Like if you murdered somebody like I was young old stupid. I hate that person
I didn't think I murdered them you do 25 years in jail you come out maybe we think like that guy's reformed
There's no feeling like that ever would go out. You go out make midnight at Paris after that
Yes
No, I don't I don't know, you know. Well, he did something.
I went out with a girl who told, she goes,
I feel like I'm hanging out with Woody Allen
when I'm hanging out with you.
And I was like, I don't know if that was a...
Like what year Woody Allen?
Yeah, yeah.
Annie Hall?
I was like, you're giving me an existential crisis.
You know, you're not even Asian, you know?
I'm trying something different.
Have you ever listened to his old standup?
Yeah, I like it.
It's so pervy.
Yeah, he's very pervy
Yeah, but it's it's hilarious how openly pervy yeah
Yeah, and then you have to think of the time in which he was doing this stand-up. This is the 1960s
Yeah, so he's doing this like weird sexual fucking a moose, you know, the moose had me mounted on the wall
I was you know, well, he's talking about girls. Yeah, yeah. He talks about girls.
I loved girls.
His voice is so, to be him, you know,
this is really what his voice is, you know.
You're a knockout Joe, you really are.
He's an odd dude.
Yeah, that's just, when you're funny though,
you can be, that's your currency.
He's an ugly, weird looking guy,
but if you're funny, that's what you do.
Yeah, up until the whole child molesting accusations.
Yeah, she was a bit of a bat shit crazy lady.
I mean, both of them deserve whatever happened,
they both deserve it.
She was adopting kids and returning them.
What?
Yeah, oh yeah.
She returned them?
Yo, all the time, yeah.
Why? Yeah, she just batted like this one. You know she would get like mangled kids and all these you know they'd have all these
Disabilities and stuff and then she would return them Wow yeah
I mean all all the kids have come out with different stories, but you know well if you're they deserve each other if you're fostering kids
And taking care of kids you're taking care of kids that have already experienced like some crazy shit.
You know, these kids are probably already fucked up. Yeah, a lot of them didn't speak English. They'd bring them in from
different countries, China and stuff. They didn't speak English. They'd be like disabled and then Woody Allen's like, you want to go for a walk?
Allen's like you want to go for a walk you know anything but his movies are so good they're pretty good they're not that good they're not that good but what
I love about it it's a different nobody could do that now and go I can go go
make a movie a year you're going I'm gonna see the rogan movie I'm gonna see
the I'm seeing the Shane Gillis movie did he really make one a year yeah wow
he made him real cheap, didn't pay himself.
And uh, we'll never have that again.
I even remember when I was in my teens going,
I'm seeing the Woody Allen movie.
You didn't even care what it was.
It's like a new comedian special coming out.
Like there were always good, right?
Like how many does he have? Oh my god, look at how many movies he has.
Yeah, absolutely.
He's still making them.
He's still making them?
That one's good, Rainy raining in New York. It's good
Where does he live now? He lives in Manhattan still yeah same place upper East Side
I wonder if he gets fucked with
Like can he just walk around?
Probably he's dead. He's old man. Yeah. He is old. I don't think people would recognize him real. Oh come on
No, not the younger not the younger generation
I think they know who he is he never lived with me a Pharaoh
I found out so they'd never live they never even slept over each other's house. They were never married. Oh
No kidding yeah, doesn't make it less weird that he started fucking her daughter, but no
But is not you know
He knew her since she was like two
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, not good.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what he looks like now.
Yeah.
Yeah, they recognize him in a heartbeat, dude.
Well, she's older now.
Yeah.
He's 88.
Wow.
God damn.
He's done.
The pandemic, I think, finished him.
He's 88.
Finished him.
Well, I mean, just life is finishing him.
He's 88 years old, man. I mean, that's finishing him. He's 88 years old man. I
Mean that's just and he just still does a movie here. What did he get arrested for there?
That's from a movie take the money and run. I think oh
Yeah
He had some great fucking movies man. He did but he's a he's a real like germaphobe neurotic guy the pandemic ruined
Anybody that had that type of personality.
Oh, I know a few people. Oh, God. Yeah.
Done. Yeah, they're not coming back.
That is a tragedy. That's the tragedy of our time, man.
Yeah, there were people that were barely hanging on.
Oh, yeah. They were riddled with anxiety.
Yeah, I was one of them, but it was more because I because I didn't get the vaccine and couldn't take part in society
That was a fun little experiment. We did that. We're just gonna pretend like never happened. Yeah, that was an interesting interesting little thing
Yeah, yeah, we had segregation in this country based on
Medicine and then we're back to pretending like it never fucking happened at least now. There's they're having hearings on it
Yeah, nine years later pretending like it never fucking happened. At least now they're having hearings on it.
Yeah, nine years later.
Fouchy was on TV the other day going,
you know, it could have come from the lab,
it may have been a leak, I wanna stay open-minded
and unseen, and they're like, yeah, okay.
Like, what?
Did you see all that leaked stuff coming out of his audio?
You gotta make pressure people, you gotta.
Yeah, they'll drop their ideological bullshit when they can't work.
You've been shown when you make their lives difficult, they'll drop their ideological
bullshit.
Just give them another booster.
Boost them up.
Imagine saying that about people's jobs, that you're gonna force them into making a decision
with their own body.
And not only that, but mandate it.
And not only that, as as a doctor know that some people
are allergic to some of the components some of the some of the actually ingredients in
these facts or Aaron Rodgers is one of them. Yeah. He's allergic to one of the chemicals
that's in it. Yeah. Can't take it. And some people have immune systems that work pretty
well and maybe you didn't you don't need to start jabbing them with Experimental stuff. I mean, yeah, it's a wild thing that happened and so many people are still defending it because they defended it previously
They're not defending it from a position of like objectivity. Like here we are 2024. Let's look at the data
No, they're defending it from this weird place of I defended it three years ago
And I've shamed people three years ago and we were right.
We were right.
We were right, you were wrong, we were right.
It saved millions.
They always say that.
It saved millions.
Which is by the way, there's no way to tell
if that's true.
There's no way to tell.
Because the number of people that actually die
from COVID is so grossly exaggerated.
Most people think it's a very high number
of people that died from COVID.
It's less than 1%.
It's like, was it 0.3?
Is it like one third of 1%, is that what it is?
Something like that.
I don't know one per, I mean, I know people do.
I know a couple of people.
I know a couple of people that died from it.
But it's not what, I remember, I was watching CNN.
I was kind of like a brainwashed woke person until the pandemic. Every day I was watching CNN. I was kind of like a brainwashed woke person
until the pandemic.
Every day I was on CNN watching,
watching that death ticker, that stock market.
And then when I made my decision not to get the vaccine
and I lost almost every friend, every job,
and was called like a far right Trump supporter,
I go, okay, this this is we've never done this
before. What was your decision? Why did you decide not to take it? Well I mean
I'm not getting something first of all it wouldn't have been made that Trump's
really good at pushing things through regulations very fast if we had any other
president there's no way that's what warp speed you remember warp speed Joe
right nobody can do that. I call it warp speed
Edison couldn't do it with lightning speed, but I did warp speed. I'm in it. They said sir. It'll take 15 years
I made it in two days. He's bragging about how quick he did it. Yeah, I'm not gonna fucking get that. I'm young
I'm healthy. I had kovat and natural immunity. I was doing what everybody has done throughout history, right?
You already had grows to really important. Yeah, so why risk that? And what was the, what version of COVID did you
have the earliest one? I had the first, the first, the OG, the original. And how bad was it for you?
It was, it was like, I get the flu every year. I'm tiny. I'm a sickly person. You know, I'm allergic
to fucking cigarettes. Can I get one of those fucking things?
Yeah, why not?
I quit smoking when I was 12, but
But you smoked a cigar?
I started when I was 10
Oh, okay
Yeah, 10 to 21. I smoked for 11 years
Nice
So let's start now
Sorry, I would have invited you
No, it's fine, it's fine. I just, god damn
How did I know that you had quit cigarettes?
Nah, you wouldn't know that
Somebody, I think somebody brought it up Well, I put up a sign when I was filming the special that like a no smoking sign
No smoking so the marks brother when I fucking
Well, I had a I had a when I was I filmed the special last week
And I we were live editing it so I put up a no smoking sign in the green room because I had all these
I had all this camera crew and stuff
What do you hit this thing the other side
The top that's flipped the way I handed it to turn towards you turn towards you no no the other way
You see that that's the top right there, and you pulled that thing down. Okay. There you go, but you got it backwards
You should do it the other way so you can see what you're doing
I like this yeah
Well, I was good at this when I was
12 where oh yeah, I used to steal cigars
I was in like a skateboard gang and I was so small they'd send me under the counter and
I would steal like thousands of dollars of cigars
Under counters yeah, it's sneak under the counter of a drugstore. Oh, God. That's so small and
Then I'd come out with and we would sell them on the street
Your gang sold stolen cigars stolen stolen cigars, and we grew weed in my backyard. Yeah, yeah, it was a real
It was a gang. I mean somebody stole our weed once we went and flipped their car over and burnt and burnt it Wow yeah
Jesus yeah, yeah.
So, that's, you know, the privilege of growing up in Connecticut.
It was a privilege.
What part of Connecticut?
Uh, New Haven.
Oh, yeah. I know New Haven.
It's called Gunblazing.
Everyone's like, oh, you're so privileged.
It was a, you know.
New Haven's a sketchy place.
Sketchy.
Yeah, we hear gunshots every night.
Super sketchy.
Every single night.
I used to do the Joker's Wild Comedy Club in New Haven.
You did?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Is that still around? I don't know. It's Wild Comedy Club in New Haven. You did? Yeah. Oh yeah.
Is that still around?
I don't know.
It's where I did my first open mic at least.
No shit.
You did your first open mic there?
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Yeah.
Actually, no.
First one was the cafeteria at college.
Yeah, I was in a play.
I was playing George Bush.
The first acting role I ever did, Stuff Happens.
Did you ever hear about that play?
No.
Stuff Happens, it was in the West End in London,
it was all actual quotes from George Bush
and his administration, the whole thing.
And it's fucking amazing.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, the war and terror,
which weapons of mass destruction,
all the whole, the way they, you know, it was almost like the pandemic, the way they scared people. We weapons of mass destruction, all the whole, the way they, you know, it
was almost like the pandemic, the way they scared people, weapons of mass destruction.
We got to take them out. We got to do what we got to do. And we went in there. And what
came of that? Yeah. Biden pulling out, leaving billions of dollars of shit behind. Yeah.
If you just compared Biden to George Bush, George Bush looks like a fucking Rhodes scholar. Yeah, it's crazy
We thought that he was an idiot
We thought the god I can't this is such an embarrassment that that guy is the president
Yeah, and now look at the two choices. We have you like yo
Bush would be like the like the wise choice at this point. Yeah, you know oh, yeah
Did you ever watch the the clip when they're like asking them about I think about bin Laden or something so I care
We're gonna find bin Laden
But first watch this drive. I watch that every day
It was good drive. Yeah, and it was a way of keeping people calm and like he's so American. He just is we're dumb
We're fucking stupid. Yeah, he's a transport to Texas. You know they're from Maine. He was born in New Haven's you know
Yeah, was really and he denies it he done
I raised that goes into New Haven is the George W Bush bridge, and he denies he was born in Yale, New Haven Hospital
Wait, why would he lie about because he wants to wants to be, I'm from Texas, you know?
Red, white, and blue, I believe it.
Yeah, but everybody knows they're from Kennebunkport, Maine.
Born in New Haven.
Really? Oh yeah.
Interesting. They're like,
fuck you, we're naming the bridge after it.
Is it American? Hey baby, New Haven.
Yeah, New Haven, Connecticut.
So at one point in time, he was hiding this,
is that what it is?
Isn't that funny, he's younger
than both fucking Trump and Biden
He's Jesus Christ he hasn't been the president in like 20 fucking years. That's so crazy
He's younger than both of them. That's so nuts
Look at that is so crazy. That's so nuts. I would vote for him for a third term
Second come on back George. Yeah, we need a laugh buddy and bring that Darth Vader fucking fake heart motherfucker with you dick Cheney
Yeah, is he still alive? Yeah? He's literally in the Bible
He had no pulse at one point in time
No pulse because he had an artificial heart put in while they were waiting to put a replacement
Oh, that's right an artificial heart put in while they were waiting to put a replacement heart in and an artificial pump put in.
So this pump continually circulated blood.
It didn't have a pulse.
So he had no pulse.
Tell me that's not in the Bible.
Isn't that in the Bible?
Oh my God.
I don't know.
Maybe you heard my priest blew his brains out when I was eight.
I kind of stopped reading.
But I mean, if you're going to have like a demon incarnate,
like you probably have no pulse. You know. Geez. I mean
Watching Biden in the cult like when he freezes up now. Oh, yes. You think he's gone man
Well, he's gonna go but it's also he's freezing up
Medicated to the tits like whatever they're doing to keep him alive
IV vitamin transfusions and fucking hormones and
amphetamines, whatever they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. Neutropics. I don't know what they're doing.
He could be the first president to be assassinated by time. Yeah. I mean, I just... He's not gonna make it.
I just can't believe they're running him. It doesn't even make sense. The more he
flails about in these speeches, the more he fucks up. The more it's like, almost like he feels like he doesn't want to do it so he's trying to get out of it
and this didn't happen this did not happen White House denies claims Biden
froze at fundraiser event they're calling him cheap fakes now but wait a
minute there's a video I know of the show where look I don't think that's a
big deal the things over he gets led off the stage.
Like, who cares?
That's nothing.
Some of the other stuff, like, what was that one
where he was like yelling at people, like, completely?
Yeah, just yelling with a big smile on his face.
He always does that.
Yeah, but this was a wild one.
That's just him walking off with Joe Biden, with Obama.
Like, who cares?
That doesn't- I think it was the was the like he gave him a little pinch on
The arm like you do to your grandma. He's looking at the crowd. Let's go. He's just looking out at the crowd, which is odd
He does look frozen though. Yeah, yes frozen. Yeah, but whatever
Yeah, that's the least of the things that have sure wrong the thing of you've you seen the video of him yelling Jamie
There's this crazy video. He's like
He's not saying someone says something to him, and he yells something back
But it's literally no words, and then he has a big smile on his face
He yells and then he does that whisper like we're all over
It's hard to believe it's real. It's hard. It's almost like we're being punked by China.
Yeah, it's like-
Oh, they, yeah, they punked us recently.
They're definitely doing that.
They're definitely doing that, but-
COVID was a bit of a punk.
A little bit.
A little, yeah, minor worldwide punk.
That we funded.
That we funded.
Yeah, our tax dollars.
How about reparations for everybody who got fired for not getting the COVID vaccine
I think everyone should get a fat check on $1,000 and that's not a bad idea
Yeah, that's not even enough how many people lost their fucking jobs people. It's destroyed people. This isn't it
Well, you hear this though. Let me hear what this one is
Donald Trump when he was commander in chief, refused to visit a cemetery, US cemetery,
outside of Paris for fallen American soldiers. And he referred to those heroes, and I quote,
as suckers and losers. He actually said that. Oh, he said that. How dare he say that? How
dare you talk about my son and all those things like that!
What?
How dare you!
Sweet old man though.
Yeah.
Is that how his son died?
Why is he saying his son?
His son...
The death of his son changes by the day.
It's like...
Yeah, but what is he saying there? Is he saying this son died as a military person?
Yeah, I don't think he died in war. He's he's mixes it up
Let's say how he died. He died from cancer
Biden had radiation chemotherapy treatments cancer remained stable May 20
2015 is admitted to Walter Reed National Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, because of recurrence of brain cancer.
He died there 10 days later.
Okay.
What does that have to do?
Why is he saying, how dare they talk about my son?
He'll link everything to his son dying.
Oh, no, no, no.
Exposure to military burn pits in Iraq.
Okay, that makes sense.
Okay.
Oh, so what did he do according to his father
Bo was dialed diagnosed with how say that word
Ankylosengspondylitis. Delitis. Ankylosing spondylitis.
After returning from service in Kosovo,
he was later diagnosed with brain cancer,
his father believes is a possible,
possibly a consequence of exposure to military burn pits.
Well, those burn pits 100% fuck people up.
That's so crazy that they did that too.
They had soldiers over there and they had all this waste and they just burned it all and then so the wind would just blow
It right into the camp. So these soldiers are just breathing in toxic chemical waste
Yeah
Yikes, yeah, what the fuck man? What was the Sun doing where someone's in Kosovo was the Sun serving?
Thanks, I think so.
Is that what happened?
It's amazing how Trump, he looks so young and energized compared to Biden now.
Yeah, but it's just compared to Biden.
Just compared to it. He was in Kosovo after
1998 1999 Kosovo war working on behalf of the OSCE to train judges and prosecutors for the local judicial system
2004 became a partner in the law firm of Bit to ferrata
Jen to Lodi Biden and bailic where he worked for two years before being elected attorney general of Delaware. He was nominated. When Joe Biden was nominated for vice president, Bo introduced
him. Many delegates wept at his speech, which recounted the auto accident that killed his
mother and sister and the subsequent commitment his father made to his sons. So he's active duty deployed to Iraq, sent to Fort Bliss for pre deployment
training this day after his father participated 2008 presidential campaigns only vice presidential
debate. Father was on record saying I don't want him going but I'll tell you what I don't
want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years. So I can't see it all Jimmy it's cut off oh so how we leave makes a big
difference whoa that didn't age well so how we leave makes a big difference then
you think about what they did in Afghanistan hey man fuck that job fuck
fuck that job you you literally have to be a crazy person to want that job like
you imagine wanting the stress of being either the vice president or the president
Brian Regan has a joke about being present every morning you wake up someone's like problems sir
Lots and lots of problems any of those jobs. There's not one day where everything's like fucking yeah
Do you think they should have an age cap on the politicians?
Well, they got a minimum right 35 to run if you want to be a fireman you
Have to show that you're physically competent
Yeah, you have to complete a physical fitness course sure you have to you know because you might be able to have to do things
If you are a president, I think you should have to commit a mental fitness course
Like they should have to test you with puzzles. They should have to ask you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like legitimately.
Like it sounds stupid, but that's a good way to find out
whether someone's brain works well.
Test people with puzzles and quizzes
and ask them questions about history
and they shouldn't be able to prepare for it.
I think it should be something that you just,
you just announce today's the day.
We're gonna pull him into this room,
and we're gonna film it all,
and ask him a bunch of questions about all kinds of things.
And then let's find out how that guy,
how his brain works.
I mean, I think Mitch McConnell had two strokes
in a very short amount of time.
He locks up, whatever that is.
I don't think it's a stroke,
but he definitely locks up, like Windows 95.
Yeah. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good and he's not stepping down
Yeah, these people are so old
They're so old and they shouldn't be doing anything
They certainly shouldn't be running the world for future generations that they are absolutely not gonna witness Mitch McConnell
It is actually stepping down. Oh, he will step down. When did he decide?
Okay finally
But he should have stepped down fucking immediately. He sounds like mr. Magoo and Jimmy store
I mean, you're you're Gigi ping or whatever watching these politicians just having a good chuckle
I think they that Gigi ping knows those politicians don't really run jack shit. It's the you know what Trump likes to
go the deep state. The deep state real it's real. There's a bunch of people
that run the government. Who are they though? Well there's a lot of money
there's heads of immense corporations that have incredible financial control and influence on politicians.
This is the reason why lobbyists are some of the richest fucking people in the country.
Some of the richest real estate is in Virginia, right outside of DC, and a lot of it's lobbyists.
The amount of money that they pour into campaigns and pour into making sure that their agendas
are being met and that their businesses get to grow because of regulations or lack of regulations or tariffs or lack
of tariffs or whatever the fuck they're trying to do. That's that's who runs things really
and makes decisions. And then the politicians keep us embattled in these social squabbles.
You know, it's like when they have when Kamala Harris had this guy in a dress with a beard
come to the White House recently,
and she's like, oh my God, for Pride Month,
come on in, you're in the White House.
Like that is to accentuate this, the social squabbling.
It's so people get fired up, yay,
queers are in the White House,
and then other people go, what the fuck are queers are in the White House. And then other people go, what the fuck
are queers doing in the White House?
It's like that, this is a part of the grand plan
to keep people not paying attention
to the really important issues.
And to just constantly, it's like these fucking beach balls,
they throw up at a concert. They constantly get thrown up
There's worse inked gay marriage. They're gonna take away gay marriage now. They're gonna take away abortion
They're gonna take away this guns the border and they just keep throwing these things in the air
So you're just like looking left and right and looking left and right and while this is going on
There's all sorts of laws being passed that allow them
to look at any computer, any laptop, any phone.
They're going to be able to bypass encryption with AI.
I was just watching a video where a security expert was
talking about that.
He was talking about, what's that guy's name?
Rob Braxman.
He was talking about how AI in your operating system,
like once they get AI in your operating system,
all this stuff like signal and WhatsApp,
encrypted end-to-end encrypted devices,
that's nonsense, it's not gonna work anymore.
It's not gonna do anything.
They're gonna be able to get your information
before it's encrypted, as you're typing it,
before you send it. Everything is going to be transparent they'll have access to anything they
want anything you have on any device it doesn't matter what kind of encryption
and what kind of bullshit you're using all that's out the window and he was
explaining that what about Elon's Neuralink chip is that you think people
are gonna have those yeah and they can just go open up. You know they don't have to say it that you just think it open up Google. You know
That's gonna happen. There's gonna be versions of that and it's gonna get but we had what's Nolan's last name
Say it again our bar our book you say the right way our buck or our bar our bar
He's the first neuro link patient. We had him in the other day, and I think the episode comes out today
Yeah, it's out now. And yeah, he's the first oh my god
Eli yeah, so it's working pretty well. It's very very smart
We're gonna be looking very well very smart very interesting person to talk to, completely paralyzed from the neck down,
except for a few movements in his hands, and like he can kind of move a little bit.
His spinal cord's not totally severed, but it's very badly damaged from an accident
in the river.
And now with this Neuralink, he can play video games, he can do all kinds of shit.
And he said the cursor goes where his
His eyes go the cursor goes like exactly where he wants it to go
So he's like I have a built-in aimbot if I'm playing video games because I could just I don't miss
He's like I'm fucking look right at it. I could shoot at things which is pretty wild and it makes you think like okay
Well for soldiers, that's a must. Yeah, you have to give them that you know and that's you know some of the fighter jets the new helmets that they have on now
are augmented reality helmets and when they're flying the jets as they're looking at a specific
spot that's where the crosshairs go so the the crosshairs are connected to this AR. Are we gonna be doing that with jokes?
Like you just hit the punch line.
I think comedy is probably gonna be one of the last places
where the actual human experience exists in a pure form.
You know, it's one of several reasons why at the mothership
we make people put their phones in a bag.
Like get that out of your head.
Yeah. Stop looking at that. Just sit down and watch a show. Huge difference. It's a giant
difference. But if we could still have things like that, it'll remind us of what it's like to be a
human. You know? I feel like the movies have kind of gone away. Going to the movie theater, I stopped.
Well, I stopped during the pandemic because you couldn't go. And then I was like, oh, this is way
better. If you have a nice TV at home, and no one's gonna interrupt and you know
There's something about that kind of taking a girl on a date, but oh yeah
I remember I went everybody had to be six feet apart
And you know two people in each row and that's all made up when they found six
He's like six it was out there. I didn't make up the rules, it was out there.
From this flu, when we didn't even have fucking electricity back then.
Well it doesn't make sense, it's in the air.
It's a respiratory virus.
They've never ever in the history of human beings been able to contain a respiratory
virus.
You can't do it.
If a respiratory virus gets out to a certain number of people
and it starts spreading through certain parts, it's just going to... And it also has animal
reservoirs. So one of the things that it actually can exist in certain animals. In fact, in
deer, they tested a bunch of white tailed deer, just wild deer, and a bunch of them
tested positive for COVID-19.
Are we gonna look back at this? That's six, there's still six feet, staying six feet apart at the airport. It's so fucking stupid.
It's so stupid, but it was all a thing where people looked for something to make them feel better,
right? So even though masks didn't work, even though six foot distancing didn't work, if you were out in public, and you knew that COVID was a thing, and there wasn't some sort of fake measure that made you at least feel safe, like you have to stand a little bit apart from each other, you have to wear the mask, we're going to be okay if we follow these rules.
these rules. We took the vaccine, we're standing six feet away, we're wearing a mask. And so all those things, even though none of those things kept you from getting COVID, zero of those things
kept you from getting COVID. In fact, there's more evidence now that the more of those shots you take,
the more you get COVID. There's a bunch of different reasons for that, but I'm not a
virologist or biologist. But those things at least kept people thinking that they were doing the right
thing, and that maybe they're going to be safe.
Instead of just a freak out of a bunch of people with no masks and a wild disease that
we've been told is going to kill everybody.
I saw the clip of him saying, you know, masks, they'll make you feel better.
And so I thought, okay, that makes sense.
Nobody said in that clip.
Yeah, it's not going to help.
It's not going to help.
And then wear one. then people start wearing two.
Yeah, he was wearing two.
Yeah, you gotta wear two, then wear a face shield,
then put a fucking diaper over your fucking head.
The wear two is just like the woke shit in San Francisco.
It never stops.
It would go to wear a beekeeper's outfit.
It would go further.
If they let it stay on, I wear two masks now,
I feel more protected.
Yeah, wrap yourself in plastic and just stay underwater.
It's amazing how that guy can gaslight.
It's amazing. He does it, and his hands fidget in the most obvious...
You can tell with his body language.
Oh, he's fucking full of shit.
I love watching him when he's in Congress, when they're interrogating him.
It's all political theater, Ron.
It's all misinformation theater, Ron.
It's all misinformation and disinformation.
Yeah, he's well prepared to gaslight.
But how can people still watch him and go,
yeah, you know, we did the right thing.
Even in that audio that you were talking about,
he said, would you make people's lives difficult?
They will drop their ideological bullshit
and get vaccinated.
It fucking worked.
He said when they were quizzing him on this, when they were asking him about this and confronting
him with this, he said, that's not what I meant.
Yeah, he's sick.
He's a sick mad scientist.
What could you possibly have meant other than what you said?
If you're that guy, this is not like a thought experiment.
You're hanging out with buddies.
Imagine if you were a guy and you would tell people, no, that's not what that was.
That was you, the head of the NIH.
You, the head of our America's Coronavirus Task Force.
You're the big guy.
You're the one America looks to for the answers and you're saying that yeah
Shame them and it but God did that work man?
That was what I what I learned from that was how hard it is to stand up for something you believe in
Goddamn take to go. I'm gonna do this and that I'm gonna you start to see your friends disappear your family
I wasn't allowed for home for Christmas. Christmas yeah I had to sit outside on a
porch with half my family outside wearing masks on and I'm standing on the
other side it's 38 degrees out wow and I'm going what am I at like like the
first-aids patient here how they respond to that now they apologize no no it's
just it well no it's just everything's just back. We're just back. We're back open
You know, it's um, but that's do you think that's just human nature? Like we're gonna people are cowards
People are cowards and there's like a mass
psychosis that happens like everybody
Collectively panicked in the face of this fear that we'd never experienced
before like a global pandemic in our lifetime.
And then people fell apart.
Like that's what happens to people when they get pressured.
There's a lot of people out there that have never really experienced actual pressure in
their life.
So when something scary like a virus comes into their life they fold up like a house of cards
They just can't take it. They don't know what the fuck to do, and they don't have any personal sovereignty
So they don't have the ability to go
Wait what what is everyone saying that doesn't make any sense?
Why am I gonna do that? What are the consequences what how much do we know about pharmaceutical drug companies have they ever lied before?
Oh, they have have they ever been fine
Oh the most fines in medical history
Okay, what are these studies like how long did they take to do these studies like it's a hundred percent effective
What does that mean? How do they define a hundred percent effective does that mean if you take it you definitely won't get
Covid because that's what I thought it meant. Do you know what it meant in 100% effective in stopping death?
In the vaccine, Robert Kennedy explained this to me.
This is his words, not mine, but if he's right,
it's the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life.
And I think he's right.
In the placebo group, two people died.
I'm gonna do his voice while you talk if you don't mind.
Don't do that.
In the placebo group, two people died from COVID. In the vaccine group, one person died. I'm gonna do his voice while you talk if you don't mind. I don't do that. In the placebo group, two people died from COVID.
In the vaccine group, one person died.
Two is 100% more than one.
So it's 100% effective.
Imagine that. Yeah.
Imagine that kind of math.
That's Fauci kind of gaslight.
Nobody really knew.
Nobody knew.
It's like a hundred percent affected
So you get people like Rachel Maddow on TV telling you that the virus stops with you
You can't you can't get infected can't transmit and then they never even they had to admit later in European court
They never even tested it for transmission. It was never tested for transmission who who hears that and is gonna go
Fuck it. So no everyone's like, yeah. like, yeah, I get to be the hero.
I get to get the shot and I get to end it.
And that's how people walk around.
And you get to put it on your fucking Instagram,
I got vaccinated today.
And you know what, fucking fine.
But don't shame the people who just made the decision
that it's not for me.
I never said one negative thing about the vaccine
or who got it and goddamn dude
Even in the in the stand-up scene. I was a far-right
QAnon all the fucking things horse medicine guy, you know, you know, it's like listen man. I got it on CNN
I know it more than anybody knows it
Chris Cuomo would not did you see the Dave Smith? Dude, Dave Smith. He fucked. Lit him on fire.
God, he lit him on fire.
Pissed on his corpse.
That piece of shit.
That clip actually, I did an impression of you
doing an impression of Don Lemon.
Dude, wait, you mean, don't get the vaccine?
Can't go to work?
Don't get the vaccine?
You can't take a poop?
Don't get the vaccine?
Unbelievable that that is on national television and that clip lives on and they get to just get away with that. Well, not only that, him and Chrisle poop, don't get the vaccine. Unbelievable that that is on national television
and that clip lives on and they get to just get away with that.
Well not only that, him and Chris Cuomo,
when he's talking about people injecting veterinary medicine
and then Chris Cuomo saying, Ivermectin, a dewormer?
The stupidity in which they were describing
on cable television.
Like first of all, you're not injecting anything, you fucking idiot.
You're taking a small pill that's one of the safest drug profiles of any drug in recorded
history that's been prescribed to human beings billions of times.
And the fact that they had the balls to go on TV and frame it that way.
And then Chris Cuomo with Dave Smith saying
this is what we were being told that they were taking,
like you don't have Google,
like you just go out on CNN,
you spit out what they're telling you,
like you didn't look at it at all.
Even at the same token,
even if you wanted to go experiment with an actual,
why don't you get to do that?
So everybody has to take this experimental fucking
rushed vaccine
that Trump pushed through regulations.
Yeah, but you're missing the point. The point is I was already better.
That's the dumbest part about this.
The dumbest part about it, let them experiment, let them not experiment.
That's not the point. The point was I got better really quick.
Which is hooray. Yeah.
But they didn't want that. So that's when the machine moved
and they went with this horse dewormer narrative
because they were worried that other people were
gonna start taking ivermectin. I took a bunch of things and I talked about all I
didn't say ivermectin by itself. I said IV vitamins, monoclonal antibodies,
Z packs. I said I literally gave the list of different things. There was some
cortisostero... what is that stuff called? There was some cord of, what is that stuff called?
There was some sort of a steroid that I took too.
What was it called?
You were better like in two days or something, right?
Quick. Holy shit.
Like quick, like it was gone, 56.
God damn.
I was working, I did 10 rounds on the bag six days later.
I was like, let's see what's going on.
Cause the only way to really see what's going on is see if I have endurance. I did 10 rounds on the bag six days later. I was like, let's see what's going on. Because the only way to really see what's going on
is see if I have endurance.
Yeah.
I did 10 rounds on the bag.
I was nothing.
At five days in, I did a workout.
And I tried it.
I was like, I feel pretty good.
I don't want to relapse, because I
kept hearing that people would work out too quick,
and they'd relapse.
So I said, let me just go for a decent workout
and see how I feel.
If I feel at all drained or tired
I'm pretty in tune which is you know how I knew something was wrong in the first place
I'm pretty tuned in to my body and then the next day. I said alright. Let's fucking push it
Let's see what's up, and I pushed it. I felt 100%
I was 100% six days later, and I think I was on 100% five days later. I just didn't try
days later. And I think I was on it 100% five days later. I just didn't try. So that was bad for the narrative because the narrative was this thing was super dangerous. You know,
you need to take a vaccine. This is the only way through it. And my doctor was saying,
no, no, it's not as dangerous as they're saying, especially someone like you, who works out
every day and takes vitamins every day and always eats healthy.
This is not the thing that's going to get you.
He's like, with the people that are dying, what I'm seeing is people with comorbidities.
He was explaining everything to me.
And he recommended a series of nutrients to take to prepare yourself to pump up your immune
system.
And he's like, but there's a bunch of things
that you can take if you do get infected
that will help you recover.
And that's what I took.
And it worked.
Yeah, think how many people could have
perhaps replicated that.
They didn't want that.
In order to have the emergency use authorization
so that they could make sure that everybody gets vaccinated,
they had to have no other treatments.
That's why they demonized ivermectin.
That's why they demonized hydroxychloroquine.
That's why they kept a lot of people
from getting monoclonal antibodies.
They didn't want any solution other than the one
that was gonna make them insane amounts of money.
And that's what they pushed for.
And we went through that.
And the thing is, did we learn?
That's the question, did we learn?
I don't think so.
I don't know. I don't know.
I think a lot of people learned.
A lot of people learned, and I think a lot of people-
You learned. I learned, but I almost didn't think so. I don't know. I don't know. I think a lot of people learned a lot of people and I think and I Think that a lot of you learned I learned but I almost didn't survive it to go through that
I had no I had no bank account. I had no money the the money I was getting was from Comedy Club cash
And I had just gotten to the clubs in New York City, and I decided I'm not I'm not going
Here's my papers to get in right I'm not doing it right not doing it
I fucking performed outside during those shows.
I was performing for free outside,
outside of comedy clubs.
And then once the vaccine, I said, we need your papers.
And I just said, I can't do it.
I said, okay, take care.
Wow.
And to do-
So how long did you go from that to not doing standup?
How many months did you not do standup?
Well, I started just doing videos in my living room. I lost my fucking mind. That's the thing.
And when I tour, a lot of my fans went through a similar thing. And so when I meet them after,
it's painful. Because everybody tells me this story. I'm a firefighter, I lost my job. I'm
a nurse, I lost my job. I'm a nurse. I lost my job
Yeah, I lost my family. I was isolated my might just met a guy his daughter killed herself because she couldn't practice her sports
She was locked in her bedroom
It's like the fucking damage that was done and to be able to stay steady during that and go alright
I'm gonna go through this now without any friends, and being labeled this far right,
crazy person for just saying no thanks to the shot.
Yeah.
It, you can't believe, you know, what that does to you.
And so I just feel, I feel so, I feel so much
for these people that did it, and who stuck up to it.
Yeah, I do too.
And I also feel for the people that got suckered into taking it and now they have serious consequences,
serious health problems.
I was ready to get vaccinated.
The UFC had allocated a bunch of vaccines for their employees because they were doing
shows during the pandemic.
We did shows in the height of the pandemic with no crowds.
So the UFC has this place called the APEC Center. And and the Apex Center is a small arena that the UFC built. And they built it to do
like the Dana White Tuesday night contender series and a bunch of different other fights
that they filmed there. And so we went there and they said, we've got the vaccine so you
can get vaccinated. We saved one for if you want to get it. I said, okay, great. A lot
of the UFC employees get it was the Johnson
and Johnson vaccine. And so I called up the doctor, hey, can I
get it today? It was like the day of the fights. He said, I
can't do it today. You got to you have to come to the clinic.
Can you come on Monday? And I said, I can't come on Monday. I
got to go back Sunday. I said, but I'll be back in two weeks
for the next fights. We'll do it then. In the time that I left, the vaccine
got pulled for blood clots.
And I knew two people that had strokes.
One guy that I met and another guy who was a friend of a guy
that I met.
And they told me that they had strokes, like, within five days
of getting vaccinated.
And I was like, wait, what?
And then they were saying, I was reading the news story about it
They're pulling they're pulling it because of blood clots. I remember that these guys had got headstrong. I'm like, holy shit and
I
Think I talked to the UFC. I go hey, man
I don't want to take that and you know
They one of the guys that I talked over there was like I agree with it like, you know, I took it
I don't know. I think I'm I feel okay, but I know a guy
I know everybody knew a guy they got fucked up everybody somebody who got fucked up by it
But it was like all of a sudden the genie had come out of the bottle because before that I was all in I was I was
Not in any way shape or form anti-vax and it doesn't make you anti-vax for not
Yeah, but I mean my point is in fact. I was at a I was having a conversation with
One of the scientists that I talked to about this and I was like maybe this would be good to get people that are these
Crazy people that are anti-vaccine to like wake up and recognize the importance of these things
So this is my mindset back then and so when that happened
I decided like I'm not taking a chance with this thing.
Like this is too weird.
And then I knew another guy who had some sort of a heart problem from the Moderna one allegedly.
And then it just got, it just started getting weirder and weirder.
And then when a couple of my friends got COVID, one of the things that happened is my whole
family got COVID.
And I was like, well, I should probably just get it. And I was like, if I get I was getting tested every
day because we were doing the podcast. Yeah. So the way we would do the podcast to keep
everybody safe is all the employees got tested, security got tested, I got tested, everybody
got tested. And a couple of times we had to cancel shows because someone someone tested
positive. And then we all everybody had to keep getting tested We were very diligent about it
But my whole family got it my kids got it and they were fine
Like they skated through it like one day two days. They felt great
Like this was early early days like no vaccine. No one knew what the fuck the treatment was
My wife got it. She took ivermectin because they were actually prescribing it back then and her doctor prescribed it back then
This is the early early days. Yeah, I didn't get it, but I did feel not good
But I was in the house man. I hugged the kids and they were like you're gonna get it
I'm like, I'm not gonna get it
I was like it was a joke we were joking around because like they weren't even that sick and my wife got it worse than
them for sure
But I didn't get it and I kept working out
I was working out and I remember one day I worked out and I didn't feel good
I was like man, I feel fucking weak and I was like, I'm just gonna do
like use like lighter weights and just go through like three series of this routine that I do just light and easy
Don't push it,
just get the blood flowing a little bit.
And then the next day I went back to the gym
and I did the same thing.
I started working, I was like,
yeah, I don't fucking feel that good.
Like I still feel a little off.
I'm like, let's just do the same thing.
Nice and light, just go through the motions,
not pushing anything.
And then the next day I went in and I felt fucking great.
I'm like, okay, it's gone.
Whatever it was, it's gone.
I tested every day, never tested positive for it,
but my body clearly was fighting something.
Like there's something going on.
And I, because I'm so in tune with it,
I recognized that I didn't push.
I do have some friends though that are meatheads
and they also felt that same thing.
And they were doing jujitsu
and they just kept training really hard
and they got felt that same thing and they were doing jujitsu and they just kept training really hard and they got real sick.
Because if you get sick
while you're broken down from training,
like if you have a really hard workout,
is the whole thing is it makes your body stronger
because it breaks you down
and then your body has to build back up again.
You need to get stronger.
I gotta have you help build a body here.
If you can help me, dude. Assan's been working out. We gotta have help help help build a body here
Assan's been working out we could have you come in I do laps in my hot tub man. That's as much as I do
I don't need much well you should do a little something you don't have to do anything rigorous But you actually I heard you I heard you say once do a hundred push-ups a day, and it'll change your life
And then fucking did
Just I couldn't do you know I did 15 now I could do a hundred no problem
Yeah, and my whole everything it's like you got to be able you got to do what you're willing to do
We gotta have some activity yeah your body needs activity
You know what you your body the so the but my point is if you break yourself down from really hard workouts
You will get fucking
sick sick.
Like the sickest I've ever been is when I got sick because I was working out really
hard because when that happens, then it hits you and you just fucking get wrecked.
And I knew a bunch of people that did that.
But just got to be smart.
And so like a lot of tough guys are not smart because they're just too tough.
They're too tough.
And they make these decisions like, I'll just fucking power through our ape brain our man cave brain
You know it takes over it does but that's also what makes you successful
That stupid part of your brain that could just power through things. That's what makes you get up in the morning
That's it gives you discipline. Yeah, yeah, but that also can fuck you up and fuck you up
Yeah, it can fuck you have to know you have to be the general of the army
Yeah, you have to understand what's going on. You can't always just be the soldier sometimes
You have to be strategic about it like no no no hold
Is not the time to attack well you need people you you really trust who can tell you I mean
I the weekend that I felt just filmed I've stayed up for three days straight to finish editing it.
So I've never done that. And I remember doing it going, this is,
I don't know if this is really stupid or really smart,
but Biden can die any day and half of your set is about Biden.
The wind could take him out, man. And so I just did three days,
you know, couple hours of sleep. It's hilarious. It's like a race to see if I was supposed to film it in and
End of August in Chicago, and I go no if he dies. This is useless
this three years of honing these fucking jokes in and
That's such a crazy mindset. I gotta get it out before the president died. I gotta beat his funeral
Oh my god. Do you think you do you think that they're gonna put in Gavin Newsom? That's such a crazy mindset. I gotta get it out before the president dies. I gotta beat his funeral.
Oh my god.
Do you think that they're gonna put in Gavin Newsom?
Oh! That's what I think.
God!
I keep thinking it like every day I'm waiting.
Waiting for the big announcement in the news.
He is so repulsive, man.
He's repulsive, but he knows how to talk.
That's all they need.
He knows how to, and he's attractive, god damn it.
He's got that nice hair.
Hot privilege.
Yeah, he's a smooth gas lighter. And it. He's got a nice hair hot privilege. Yeah, he's a smooth gas lighter and
He's got that serial killer face though super good at running a state into the ground. I
Hate he talks like he's rapping. Do you like yeah, we're gonna shut down. Yeah. Well, it scares me. It's very practiced
He's a performer, you know, but that's what half this country wants
They want someone who's just gonna make them feel good enough to go to work every day sure was as their rights get eroded
Yeah, slowly but surely Kamala Harris. That would be interesting even to have her for one day as president, bro
They've been hiding that lady. That would be interesting. No
No
That's what rest is gonna attack, you know, I got kicked out of a comedy club for doing an impression of her?
No.
They said it's no longer okay for a straight white guy to do an impression of a retarded hyena.
Wow.
What was the club?
It was like a makeshift thing during COVID.
It was this outdoor thing and I got thrown out.
They go, you're racist. I was like making fun of her and I got thrown out. They go you're racist
I was like making fun of her and I got thrown to the curb Wow because I couldn't do the club
So I was unvaccinated. I hate saying unvaccinated that makes it sound like the vaccine. It's like being I'm I didn't get circumcised
I don't like being called uncircumcised right? Yeah, so you can't un something that just is right
It's the dick and then the chop the chop dick. Yeah, so you can't un something that just is right dick and then the chop the chop. Yeah. Yeah
I hate that it is weird careful with the way we phrase your unvaxed. It's like fuck it
I'm just a human with blood regular blood and you got Fauci juice Trump Fauci juice
Around your body warp speed juice inside of your son warp speed and so did the joke go over well
Did it get a good laugh?
I was just kinda talking about race and stuff,
and you're a racist, and the manager came
and physically threw me to the curb,
and I just remember, what the, what is going on?
When I started comedy, you know,
I started around the time of like Sam Morrill
and Mark Normand, and I started two years after them,
and we were still doing open mics.
You'd see Mark Normand on The Tonight Show,
and then back at the club,
hey, hey, comedy, all right, you're gay,
I'm fat, praise Allah, hey, ha!
And we would say the craziest shit,
and it made you good, and then suddenly it was like,
you can't say this, you can't say that, you can't say that,
and it's all made up, it's all made up.
It all happened during the Obama administration. It was a wave of it and like
Dave Smith has tracked it. It's really interesting really describe it
Yeah, he describes like when the phrases all the different catch phrases that all of its around 2012
That's like this big ramp up of all these things racism all these ideas transphobia all this big ramp up of all these things racism all these ideas
transphobia all this big ramp up of all these issues happened around 2012 I don't
jump I'm transphobic but that just means because I'm afraid of them Joe I've
gone out with two by accident yeah yeah I used to do online dating and you'd show
you know that they would they would have good angles
The surgery is getting good too. And if they're Asian
Game over whoo game over so I was on a date with the it was a is a black woman
It turned out to be a man
And I had a complete mental breakdown. I ran in the bathroom. I called my friend ago
I'm out with a dude and
and he wants to fuck me. He wants to take me home.
Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, that happened twice.
So did they explain to you that they had a dick?
No. No. No?
If you're dealing with someone who has a, I'm not saying all people that, I don't even
think trans is, it's all fucking, just makes you have a seizure, but no, they don't, a
lot of them don Don't tell you
Mmm. Well a lot of them feel like you don't have to tell I was actually watching a podcast where
Comic was arguing that you shouldn't have to tell someone that you're trans if you're dating them even if you're having sex with them
Hmm. Well, you're gonna find out a comic was arguing that when they're
fucking vagina and they were doing it in just this woke compliant way it wasn't
like they had a well thought-out point it was just like yeah why should you have
to tell people like what the fuck are you talking about what are you talking
about you should tell people if you have bad credit you're gonna get involved in
a romantic relationship with someone and you you owe the government
$100,000 in taxes you have to fucking tell people like I might be in trouble
I might have to run to Costa Rica. Yeah, you should have to tell people a lot of things
Yeah, well, it's uh that that's the new way
It's it's just this compliance for all this new shit that didn't exist a couple years ago
Well, that's the thing is that they want to say
that trans women are women, so why should they have to tell you?
I think it's transphobic to call somebody trans.
Because if they're an actual woman, they're just a woman.
So why are you calling them trans?
You can't transition if you were born a woman
and you feel like a woman.
You really want to support people like this?
Trans shouldn't be on the fucking table.
That's a woman.
With a dick though.
With a dick! Yeah.
So that's how you say trans woman.
Just so to let everybody know.
Just say woman with a dick.
A dick holding person.
Dick holding person.
For now, they might decide to get rid of the dick.
Oh man, I wonder what that's the thing.
I wonder if I've ever even know
Yeah
Yeah, they should show the surgery you want kids to get involved they should show the surgery of taking your forearm skin and
Building a penis. Well, it's hard enough having God given penis
Imagine one built by a bunch of like arteries and that one's scary
But that one doesn't take away your vagina
That's the scary one is the penis to a vagina or they take it off
They fold it in really and make an opening in your body and then you have to keep it
Dilated all the time safe to shove something up there to make sure it doesn't close up like a fucking ear piercing
Yo Yo something up there to make sure it doesn't close up like a fucking ear piercing Yo
Yo
One day they're gonna be able to do gene therapy and they're gonna be able to literally transform someone into a woman
That's not up. That's not off the table. They're gonna be able to do that and you know some animals can do that
That's one of the funniest things that Alex Jones got called out for the turn of the frogs gay
But that's a real thing after zine. It's a it's That's one of the funniest things that Alex Jones got called out for. The turn of the frogs, gay!
But that's a real thing.
Atrazine.
It's a pesticide or an herbicide?
They got it in with these frogs, and half of the frogs change their gender.
Like, here it is.
Atrazine is an herbicide, an endocrine disruptor that can harm the sexual development of frogs by altering their hormone cycles
exposure to atrazine at concentrations as low as zero point one parts per
Billion can cause gonadal malformations including hermaphrodites and males with multiple testes
Atrazine can also chemically castrate male frogs,
turning them into females or demasculizing them.
I mean, that's kind of happening anyways in New York City.
They're doing it to men.
You see, I walk around and you see these couples
where the female looks like the guy
and the man looks more feminine.
Men are just being emasculated.
If they allow it.
If they allow it, but a lot of them are.
A lot of them allow it.
I was one of those guys.
Because when the options are all of these women,
when this is the options,
I mean women create the sexual marketplace
and men kind of dictate their behavior.
Imagine if you and I were left to our own devices
with no kind of woman to kind of keep you in check so men have been adapting that's
what Vikings came from yeah that's where pirates came from yeah you leave men
alone and not have a bunch of women around going hey slow the fuck down slow
it down then you have battle axes of savages storming villages. Yeah, the capital. Yeah, and so that's the
over correction. That's the over correction is you get these like incredibly feminized
men and one of the ways that happens is jobs, right? So you have a job and you're in this
social structure for eight hours a day. That is very unnatural and weird and most companies
have DEI scores and most companies have all these different requirements and
they're openly allowed to discriminate against especially heterosexual white
men. I may know one or two things about that. Yeah there was a thing that Elon
tweeted I think today or yesterday in response to one of these things at Disney where
One of the guys at Disney like openly said I would never hire a straight white man
Like I have that on tape, you know, I have a lawsuit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean so you and I talked about it in the green room and
Tell your story like tell what happened and how this all this
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's quite. It's quite a long story
I mean it I started it when I started comedy and started I've been doing 20 years
So I've been I've been on TV TV shows guest stars co-stars
You never really heard, you know,
that's too many white guys,
or you know, it's getting a little too white.
And then I remember like, at comedy clubs,
you just start to hear people say,
you know, there's too many white guys.
Too many fucking white guys.
And then it became quite popular
to just start to say, there's too many of you guys.
So what do you do?
We gotta get rid of them.
The first time it happened to me,
I was invited to do a podcast.
It's a woman, she was a lesbian,
she wanted me to come on and tell the story
of being raised by gay men.
She goes, I think this will be good
to bridge our two fan bases
so people can hear it from a straight guy's point of view
of what it's like to kind of grow up around, you know,
I grew up in gay bars and piano bars and drag shows
and I'm kind of the long-term study for what it does to you.
It fucks you up.
You know, I started to think maybe I'm gay,
maybe I'm, you I tried in college actually
I was going home to visit my family
I tried kissing a guy just because I felt like I needed to fit in this shit really it really
How'd that go?
Oh, he was like get the fuck away from me. I remember I was in the car and just going like
Fuck, maybe I'm gay my dad's gay. I got a gay brother one of my dad's brother's gay
I think my grandfather. It's gay, I got a gay brother. One of my dad's brother's gay, I think my grandfather,
it's, you know, shit's genetic.
It's genetic.
And I just, I leaned in and goes, get the fuck away from me.
Because I just wanted to fit in.
I wanted something to talk about at Thanksgiving dinner.
I wanted to be the gay, you know.
It's so, um.
Peer pressure.
Peer pressure, this girl invited me on to talk about this
and she was a friend.
She texts me and she goes I
think this was after the George Floyd thing maybe and she goes um I can't have
a straight white guy on anymore and I remember just going like what the fuck
you can't have me on just cuz I'm my skin color what changed it was the
during the BLM stuff that stuff really ramped up. It became kind of, I think, celebratory
to go fuck white people, fucking white women, white, you know.
I think it became normalized.
A little way too, any amount is too much,
but it became celebrated in a way.
And so that happened, and then it happened in another podcast,
and then I was, I had an acting agent who whenever I would do stand I used to host Mark Norman show hot soup
and all the agents would come and every you know every couple months I'm gonna
go why aren't you on SNL we gotta get you in Holly why and I'd go well sure
what sign me could send me you need auditions and so this guy saw him and he
brought me in it was the biggest agency at the time, Abrams it was called.
And I'm waiting around going, what's going on?
No auditions? Is SNL coming to check me out?
And he emails and he goes, it's too tough out there for white guys.
He kind of was like, we're done here.
The next day fires me, removes me, right?
Well, not the next day. It was soon after., removed me from the roster. I got an email. Some more time
went by and then another manager scouted me, brought me in. It's called AGI
Entertainment, I think. And he goes, dude, you're a killer. He goes, you got an
acting resume. He goes, we're gonna get you on Curb Your Enthusiasm, you know.
And I was like, okay, maybe this is finally somebody
who's got the balls to fight this shit.
Months go by, he calls me and he goes,
we hit a snag, he said,
we can't have anymore white guys.
Or we're not hiring white guys.
We're not representing white guys.
And I just was like, what the fuck is going on?
How could you say that?
And I go, is it company policy?
And he goes, yeah.
So halfway through the conversation,
I take my phone out,
because this happened so many times,
I was losing my fucking mind.
My therapist goes, dude, you gotta start recording this. You have to record this stuff
because it was happening every month.
I got a commercial campaign.
They go, you've been replaced with a black woman.
He goes, you're the guy for the job.
It was like a hosting thing where you gotta do impressions.
I was perfect for it.
They replaced me.
So I started being prepared and I recorded it
and I got it on tape, and I just...
What did you get on tape? What did he say?
I got him literally saying,
we will not represent white men and its company policy.
He said it in plain, it couldn't be any more clear.
He said, we cannot work with you just because you're skin color.
And where were you when you recorded this?
Were you in New York?
Yeah, I was in New York, so you're allowed to do it.
You're allowed to do that in New York?
Yeah, yeah, I didn't even know that.
Do you have to tell them that you're recording?
No. No.
Wow.
No, I was sitting at my pod, I did like a little,
because I couldn't work because of the vaccine stuff,
so I was just locked in my room for two years
making Instagram videos.
I mean, I went from zero to a million,
over a million followers, just from, I was doing Fauci every day,
doing cameos, going on the radio as Fauci.
Wow.
And it was just bizarre.
But dude, it fucked me up,
because it's so confusing to have someone go,
you are the man for the job.
I had a great resume.
I mean, I was being considered for big Hollywood roles.
I was brought in for a sneaky Pete Giovanni Ribisi.
I was up for that role.
And making my own films.
And yeah, it fucked me up.
I got really depressed.
I lost my mind.
And so when you recorded this on tape,
what happened after you recorded it on tape what happened after you recorded on tape
After that I was too afraid because when I would tell people about this they would go well
Whatever white guys have had it good. Yeah, I'm going
I just fucking got here, but isn't that one of the things that someone said to you like why guys have had a good run?
People said to me all the time wasn't that one of the things that one of the agents had said to you
good run. Oh, people say that to me all the time.
But wasn't that one of the things that one of the agents had said to you?
Eh, probably.
I mean, I don't know if an agent said that, but.
You were telling me that someone said it to you.
Comedy, yeah, comedy clubs, a lot of, not necessarily clubs, but like the independent
run shows, there would be like no white people allowed shows.
What?
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah, I was at a club and I did a spot.
Guy goes, you going on the next show?
And I go, yeah.
He goes, I didn't know you were in the LGBT plus two
RQR community.
And I go, what?
He goes, yeah, it's only no straight people allowed.
I was like, what the fuck?
What the fuck is going on?
And so after that, I waited a while.
I talked to my therapist. I just didn't know what to do.
Because I didn't want that to become a force of its own.
I wanted to have my talent lead the way,
which it had always been doing.
And it's tough to have people call you, say,
oh, you're just being a victim or whatever.
And it's like, yes, sometimes you're a victim
and you have to fight it to heal from it
and to move on from it, and so I thought,
if I don't fight this, I'm gonna kill myself,
because it's so humiliating to have someone go,
your skin color is just not the time for it.
And so I just thought, I'm gonna go for it,
and I just put it on Instagram.
I said, hey, I just got turned down for being white.
Any attorneys out there?
And one guy reached out and goes,
I'm a discrimination attorney.
He goes, this is one of the most clear acts
of discrimination I've ever seen.
He said, it's so clear cut.
And so that was a couple years ago.
So it's an ongoing thing. These things take a long time
But um and so what are you you're suing for discrimination is that we're suing for yeah, yeah
Yeah, every every race is protected under the civil, you know civil rights laws. There's no isn't that crazy though
They would think they're so
Encaptured by this fucking mind virus that they would think it's okay to be racist to white people
Not only okay, but like so celebratory. Yeah, you know wild
Yeah, and I don't let people fucking do that to me people think I'm just this nice little. I'm a fucking animal
When you grow up in a crazy environment, and you survive it man
It's like fucking come at me, and I said, it's a hill I'll die on, I don't care.
I was like, this is war, we are in a full blown culture war.
And I would give up everything for it.
Because I also owe it to people that can't fight for themselves.
I had this 10 year period where this shit wasn't going on
I built up my acting chops my comedy chops with nobody saying you can't do that
You can't say that and so I had this kind of you know this
This energy I got I have to no one's gonna do it for you
You know I saw Jordan Peterson, you know fight for that bill c16 thing
Yeah, and I go holy, watching, it's worth watching
the congressional hearing in Canada,
where he's explaining you can't compel speech,
you can't tell somebody you have to say my pronouns,
or you go to jail.
He's like, this is gonna get out of fucking control.
Everything he said came true.
Yeah, I had him on, when at the beginning of that stuff.
And I remember people saying to me,
like, why do you care about what happens,
these obscure moments that happen in these universities?
And I had Bret Weinstein on after the Evergreen College
thing, same kind of thing.
And I was saying, like, you know,
these people are going to graduate.
Do you understand what this is the future?
These attitudes that are being and these kids are being indoctrinated into these mindsets
they're gonna expand and they're gonna be involved in the workplace and they're gonna be involved in
politics and culture but this mind virus is going to go everywhere and
you got to say what it is you got to you got to call it out when you see it that this is kind of
kind of crazy. And obviously all these years later, I mean this was like 2016 I guess.
Yeah.
So here we are, you know.
Well he's part of the reason I pursued this, Jordan, because I just, he's like you have to tell the truth.
That's it. Tell the truth. Or tell the truth or at least don't lie, you know.
It's like, well, it's like you can't bloody compel my speech,
you know?
Clean your damn room, you know?
It's like finger a cat, rescue your father from the bell.
It's like, well, you know?
It's like, you know?
And so that one, you know why?
Because I was in a little emasculated little he, him
living in New York and I would sit in my room
and watch his lectures with my fucking head would explode I go holy this is all the shit
that I think and feel but I haven't been able to articulate he's a brilliant guy
and my life that my life changed forever once I heard him say that tell the truth
at least don't lie and my life has changed it that video of him with Kathy
Newman have you seen that? That's amazing.
I watch that every week.
Yeah, it's amazing.
It's a master class in how people will try to bend your way.
He does not bend.
He'd be like, well, you know, women need to like contend in the workplace.
So what you're saying is women should just be raped in the break room.
It's like, no, it's like I'm not saying that.
It's a funny conversation because it's all that gotcha shit gone wrong because you're
doing it with a skilled person, a skilled linguist and someone who really understands
what he's saying and has a deep understanding of the history of Marxist and Leninist philosophy
and what it leads to, what communism and socialism actually leads to.
What you're actually saying is you by
By forcing people to comply there's only one way you force people to comply and that's violence. That is the only way ultimately
It will we're gonna put you in jail. What happens if I resist we're gonna kill you it gets to that it gets to violence
We're gonna grab you we're gonna hunt you down
We're gonna put you in a cage and then we're gonna force everybody else to comply as well
And this is what he's saying is like you cannot
Go down this path if you do not know where it leads to you can't think you're being virtuous by standing up for the
disenfranchised and imposing this especially the gender pronoun thing which at that point in time there was 78 different
Recognized gender pronouns. Yeah, like who knows how many there are now like now it's nuts thousands
It's just like people just make things up and that's what's the fun thing about tik-tok China is so clever
Oh, they're so good with tik-tok is so good
It's so they're so smart what they did and then to show you these outrageous
People over and over again with fake eyelashes reading stories to kids just Freaking everybody out with a bunch of different, you know, I'm two-spirit and I'm this and that and I'm trans masculine
With like fucking the whole thing is just nuts and then shutting down
Free speech or I mean I've been I've been banned for shut down for three years
They froze Mike. I was going all my pandemic shit. Oh, they check. They banned you. What'd you do? They've well
They don't have to tell you they don't have to times being white boy. I was texting while white
They don't have to tell you that's part of when you sign up, right?
Especially tick-tock and it's common. It's a communist Chinese. We are let it's an act of war living in our pocket
I don't I can't believe it's the one I don't use well
I was telling you I changed my name to queer disabled comedian and suddenly they let me I
started getting ad offers from TikTok. They just like and then when I did the
the the bit about where I come out on stage as gay that was the first video
that they let kind of through. Is it because the algorithm let it through?
Probably.
Did it get reviewed eventually?
Yeah, it just got removed again.
I just posted it again.
Because I'm like, fuck you.
So I keep posting these things over and over.
You just post it under different names?
Yeah.
Yeah, my youngest daughter is obsessed with the vegan teacher.
The vegan teacher is this crazy lady on TikTok
that's like this crazy vegan lady and she keeps getting banned. So they keep bringing her, she
keeps making up new accounts and coming back.
So that's what I do on stage. I keep coming up with new identities to see
what I can get away with. What is this? Oh this is his... Yeah that's been frozen for
three years. Wow. Yeah and look at the first video like that's how many views all of my videos used to get 3.1 million
Yeah, I was blowing up like I was getting like 10 20,000 followers a day and then wow
Yeah, wow
and that's the difference between a comic selling out a theater and
Half fill in a club yeah, you know that type of exposure Oh for sure especially comic like you is actually very funny when you have these
Messages that come and say that your accounts being frozen. They don't give you any reason do they say non-compliance
Or community standards say
Disinformation hateful behavior what did they say each one is different?
You know I mean like each video when they pulled your account with this oh yeah hateful behavior what did they say each one is different? You know I mean like each video when they pulled your account with this oh yeah hateful behavior hate my my Instagram got pulled, too
No, oh, bro. That's when I lost it when did that was the only back now, right?
It's back. I by the grace of God. I met somebody outside the comedy seller, and she goes can I follow you on Instagram?
I said no
I'm like they just they just banned my account.
And that was the only way I was making money,
was selling tickets from my Instagram videos
and going on the road.
And this girl said, she goes, I just quit working there.
And I said, can they just turn you off and on?
She goes, yeah.
I go, can you have my account turned back on?
She goes, absolutely.
She gave, I gave her my information. She sent it to somebody in Instagram
They just flipped the switch switch back on the next day. I was back
So is it just completely subjective based on one employee decides?
Your offensive yes, they have a whole fucking department, and if they go well
They got two complaints or whatever he's being transphobic or whatever the fuck bullshit is going on at the time
And that you can't have that with art. No especially not comedy especially not calm
I mean the whole idea is to push limits and the whole idea is to like walk that crazy line and say wild shit for fun
It's just fun fun
These aren't like you can't put them in the same
categories as hate speech because no one's trying to
be hateful, they're just trying to get laughs.
And they're getting laughs oftentimes by saying something
that the audience knows they don't mean.
They're saying it because it's funny, not because it's true,
not because they want you to think it's true,
because it's a ridiculous thing to say,
and it's a funny thing to say.
And when you hear the audience laugh, that means it worked.
It was effective.
It doesn't mean you can then put that in print
and say that this is an anti-LBGTQT plus AI2.
Who gets to decide?
It's like, it'd be like pointing to a random person
in the crowd at the mothership going,
you get to pick what's hateful and what's not
What comedians exactly but also like to have random people working at Instagram that get to get to decide that or tick-tock
They just get to decide that yeah, so crazy
And you know we know well thank God for Elon Musk and and Twitter and X now whatever I'm never calling it
I hate that well porn pops every time you know It's kind of crazy that they're porn on it, but that was always no
But I mean X all every porn site is like xxx so you type it in and usually a porn site pops up
Well, that's maybe your browsing history. Well, that's talking about a friend of mine
But at least on that site you don't have to worry about that shit
You could you can get wild you could do whatever the fuck you want there I got banned the day or week he
actually, I had his attorney reach out to him personally because I was banned right before he started and
And I go oh Elon's taking over. I'm they're gonna give me my account back and you know it just didn't happen and
I ran I was doing a
RFK fundraiser was doing stand-up with RFK jr. And his
Elon's attorney was there. Oh wow any and she texted him or something say oh, okay, pretty cool. We'll turn it back on
That's you know so well. It's pretty funny. We'll get it right. We'll get it going again. So well
There's no way he could have known I mean there's so no there's so many fucking I
Contacted him about a bunch of people that got had gotten
unfairly banned
Including Megan Murphy who got unfairly banned for saying that a man is never a woman. They banned her forever
Well good
But now she's back. She's a feminist. That's was so crazy
She was just arguing about that trans men or trans women are invading women's spaces and imposing
Masculine behavior and masculine character. They're acting like men and taking over women's spaces
Well, that was the actually the only way to get a movie role for me. I was in that Daily Wire
And I thought how funny that I get kind of canceled for being a white guy and now the first role actually no
I was in the the Western with Gina Chrono
Cowboy yeah, oh yeah boy, sir. I had to kick him in the fucking nuts. Did you gotta beat the shit out of him?
That's hilarious. That must have been terrifying. Oh, oh we fought every day. Yeah, he almost killed me
Where they hit that guy not fake goes, fucking get me in the nuts.
And he goes, so he had me actually kick him in the nuts.
Did he have a cup on? No.
And I was like, dude, if you're fucking with me and I do this and you kill me,
this is not. And he's like, fucking.
And I ran and kicked him in the nuts.
We had to do it like five times. Oh, my God.
That guy is an animal. Oh, he's a savage.
He would be like, let's just improvise the the the fight scenes.
I'm like, I'm a Lego next to you, dude
Yeah
He's too wild
He's wild. He's so crazy. And Gina, man, she is a monster
I mean the stuff she had to do in that film every day get fucking killed and raped and beat up and
She that they found me on Instagram. Wow. I was in my on my couch depressed and I got a I got a
DMs do you want to interview or audition for the new Gina Carana movie? That's great
And she just she's suing Disney right now. Yeah, I think she's she should win. I hope so
I mean what she did was to mean the whole thing is just so everyone's so crazy
The everybody gets so nuts and it happens so fast. It's a
wild ride from like
2017 on it's like once Trump got into office. There was like all the women's marches. Remember those
Yeah, that's where I got pussy. Yeah, but those were like everybody there were women
It was just women. Yeah, it wasn't like what's a woman. No, it's like there. They are no women are marching
Pussy hats on there's no dude in wigs a couple years this mass wave of
Confusion just goes through the culture and everybody's at each other's throats on social media. I never
through the culture and everybody's at each other's throats on social media. I never like interact on social media.
I just don't do it.
You can't.
I don't think it's good for you.
You can't.
Yeah.
I've taken the bait a couple times.
I mean, you know, it's if you're just a regular person and then suddenly start blowing up
or whatever and people are calling you all the worst possible names in the world.
Like it's a little alarming at first and you want to defend yourself but now I mean you
can't.
I think if you wanted to really engage people on actual ideas you'd have to do it anonymously.
I think if you really want to like, if you want to have honest discussions with people
publicly about stuff, you're really better off doing it anonymously.
Because if you did it anonymously, and I don't have any desire to do this either but if you do it
anonymously at least you could there's no personal attacks no one knows who
you are no one knows anything about you you can just talk about this issue you
know whatever the issue is like AI whatever it is whatever it is as people
are debating online you could have discussions about it you know like like
people do on like 4chan or something like that or reddit like you have a
fucking crazy fake screen name no one has to know who you are and you can talk
about things but if you're a public person like you are and you're going like
I see people arguing with people back and forth about the quality of their work
musicians oh yeah arguing with fans or trolls about whether or not their last
album was good.
I'm like, what are you doing, man?
You are inviting mental illness into your home.
You gotta disconnect.
Disconnect, man.
And most people are not disconnected because it is the one form of conflict that they can engage in
that doesn't really have consequences.
Unless you say something really crazy and then it goes public.
But that's pretty rare.
Most people are just attacking people, like randomly,
getting out their aggression, just attacking people
and engaging in arguments online.
It's like, my God.
It's a great distraction though.
To make it in our industry, it takes 100%
of your time and effort.
I mean, I'm in almost 20 years to the point
where I can now not worry about feeding myself.
Well, you came to my attention because of the videos.
That's what I found out about you.
And then comics.
Comics will all have very high praise of you.
So that's a nice thing to know.
It's a nice thing to know.
And so-
Hey, hey, comedy.
That was actually Mark Norman laughing at your jokes when you were new was like the first tonight show
Oh, yeah, and he would just go ha
Yeah, so all the comics that became
The way to let somebody know you were good everyone would do the mark norman laugh so nobody would actually give a genuine laugh
But if you're hey
You're like all right right someone says that's a good one.
Yeah, because a lot of times when someone has a really funny joke, I'm always like,
ah, that's good, that's good.
You know, that's the same thing.
Yeah, and you know what I did actually, because I was so afraid to say what I actually thought,
I started doing impressions because I would do my joke, I would get my real thoughts out
through my impressions and people would link it to them.
So like, I'd be talking about feminism doing Bill Burr,
be like, right, I went out with this girl last night,
this fucking cunt, right?
Actually, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
toxic masculinity, right?
It's fucking brutal, right?
I gotta listen to that shit on a fucking Monday!
And everybody would erupt and I'd go, oh my God,
they think that was Bill Burr's thought, that was me.
And so my whole act became you know just doing
Trump all sorts of stuff, and I'm pulling back from that a little now that I have some balls
I've grown but it's still a fun way to do it. It's still fun way to do. Yeah
It's a fun. It's it's a nice little way that you can sneak things in
You know yeah, do you do it? it dude you're pretty good at him I heard
you impressions yeah I have a limited range the ones that I do I could do good
but I have a limited range have you ever done have you ever done them on stage
yeah I do still Mike Tyson impression because Mike Tyson yelled at some guy in
the audience that he would fuck him till he loved him and I was like do you have any idea how
long that would take and he would have? And he would have to decide.
He would have to decide if you loved him.
Oh yeah, I remember that.
I could do Tyson, I could do a few different people.
It's so funny when people say it's cheap or stupid.
I go, you just did an impression of your mom
or the mailman, everybody's doing, you know.
Fuck those people.
Yeah, funny's funny.
It's funny, it's funny.
If it's good, it's good.
If it's not good, you won't laugh. That's it, end of story. You need this later? Yeah, funny funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny. If it's good. It's good. It's not good
You won't laugh. That's it end of story in this line. Yeah, thanks anybody says it's cheap. It's like there's cheap stuff
We all know cheap stuff, but cheap stuff's not impressions some great
People do great impressions, and it's part of the fun of watching them on stage like when Shane does Trump
Yeah, it's like it's so good. It's so crazy good where he does Conor McGregor.
It's like, it's fun.
I haven't heard of Conor McGregor.
Yeah, he does Conor McGregor in Roadhouse.
It's very funny.
But it's just, it's fun.
And the crowd loves it.
And you're there to please the crowd.
I'm one of the crowd.
I love it.
Yeah.
You know, this idea, this, this,
it's all perpetrated by artists
who can't either can't do the impressions or under this false idea
That there's like a way that you're supposed to do comedy like there was an alt way that you're supposed to comedy where you're not supposed to
Try hard. Oh, there was a lot of that and if you acted things out or you have too much energy
They didn't like you like you were supposed to not try and you're supposed to just stand there and be kind of monotone-ish. Yeah, that's why I didn't. I don't really hang out with comedians
or I am now a little bit because it's a little more comfortable at the mothership, but I
didn't like those things getting in my head and then thinking are these comics judging
me in the back or whatever. They probably are, who cares. They are. They are. They are
the ones who do suck. But when you're new, when you're fresh and you're malleable, you
know, you need to grow like a foundation
Oh a lot of people get sucked down that road
They get sucked down that road in life and that not just in comedy
But in pretty much every world every community you get sucked into the ideas of the peers
You want to fit in you want to be one you got to lift the top member
Oh pop the top it's like the ideas of your peers you get sucked into
this idea that this is the way I'm supposed to think and behave this is
the way I'm supposed to perform my art this is supposed to way like when I
first started out everybody had to be clean you had to be a clean comedian
yeah because when I started out was the 80s the lady I was starting 88 and that
was the time where everybody wanted to get on the
Tonight show and everybody wanted to get a sitcom so you develop this like squeaky clean
Television friendly act and if you didn't have a squeaky clean television friendly act oh this fucking idiot
He's just gonna do the road. You're just gonna be a road act damn, and that's what I was I barely got work in town
Do Carson or anything. No, no, I
I never did any of those talk shows until I became a guest because I was on a television show like a fear factor
Something like that. I just sat down and talked to like Conan O'Brien like that kind of thing
But I didn't do stand-up on it. First of all, cuz I didn't like that kind of stand-up
I didn't like five minutes that that drove me nuts
I had done a couple of things,
like I did the MTV half-hour comedy hour
and a couple of those other TV-type shows.
But that wasn't, I wanted to be a club comic.
That's all I wanted to do.
I wanted to be a professional club comic.
And I remember everybody saying,
you're never gonna get work, you're never gonna get work.
And part of me was like, I don't,
I mean, I remember having this conversation once
with this comic, and he was the host of open mic night and he said listen you
got to change your actor you're never gonna work and he was a professional and
he was like doing okay he's pretty good like a professional like a local middle
act type guy that had like a competent 20 minutes it was not bad wasn't good
but back then I thought it was that's even as I was 21 I actually saw him live before I ever got paid to do comedy
I went to see Dom Irera and he was one of the opening acts and
When he told me he was like you're never gonna get any work
You got to stop swearing yours, and I go but all my favorite comedians are like Andrew Dice Clay goes
You're not Dice Clay
I go I was like okay, but at one point in time Dice Clay might he's like look
You don't have to listen, but you're not gonna have a career and you're like fucking stormed away left
You feeling like shit and then
Four or five years later. I came back to the club headlining because I was on news radio
Yeah, and the place was sold out and he said what do you want me to say? I go tell them you gave me the worst advice that anybody ever gave me and then tell them all the TV credits that I have
that you don't have and
he just like like
Shook his head a little bit and just walked away because he was right because he was still the same guy
He was still trapped. He was still a shitty
He was still trapped. He was still a shitty, mediocre, barely funny act that was passable under the best conditions
possible only.
But like you would never repeat his jokes at a party.
Nothing he said was ever fun.
And I went up and killed.
And it was so, it was fun.
And I was dirty.
But this like, there was like a lot of the comedians back then, like the established
guys were actually angry that I had succeeded with a dirty act because I was on television like I remember one of them saying I
Can't believe they gave him a job with fucking Disney Disney hired him because Disney was where I got my first development deal
and they're like fucking Disney they've ever seen his blowjob jokes like Disney and
Well that shit's on Disney now
Circle Where kids are learning?
then it was
Everybody wanted to be clean and so there was a lot of peer pressure so I tried I tried I tried to like conform my act
I tried to like write like material that was not me can't do it. You know I was a 21 year old
Animal who was a kickboxer
That's all I was doing I was my whole childhood from 15 to 21 was me
traveling around the country trying to kick people unconscious and then all of a sudden I'm in this new environment where everybody's
Hypersensitive and everybody wants you to be clean and everybody wants you to do these jokes that to me
We're just like I want to hear wild shit
I like wild shit like I got into comedy because I saw Kinnison. Yeah, I got into comedy so I saw I want to do wild shit
That's what I want. I want things you're a fucking animal on stage
Yeah, it's it's like watching a wild animal, but it's just you just letting your fucking self come out
It's just who I am that I mean that's just me being like what I think is funny
Like my kind of comedy you don't have to like it a lot of people don't that's okay
That's what I like but that's like all music man
You know like there's people that don't like the black keys. I don't understand them
Because I love them, so I listen to black keys. I'm like fuck yeah, and some people like oh
Okay, just don't watch it, but this is just life So I listen to black kids and I'm like, fuck yeah. And some people are like, ugh, okay.
Just don't watch it.
But this is just life.
But when you're in an environment
where people are telling you,
like it's on an alt environment,
and all of your peers and all the people
that are so desperately trying to succeed,
because you've achieved a level of comfort now,
so you can look back on it,
because it's not that long ago,
where you didn't know if it was gonna work out.
And that moment when you're starting out, because it's not that long ago where you didn't know if it was gonna work out and that
Moment when you're starting out whether it's comedy or anything martial arts fucking everything I would imagine
when you're
Endeavoring when you're you're entering into this like
Crazy world of possibilities this might not work like what are the odds that it were how many?
Comedians who do an open mic night ever become a professional headliner?
Goddamnit, it's not even one out of a thousand. No, it's a nutty number
So if that was your child or a really good friend you would say oh my god
Don't do this like this is not it's not gonna work out for you
Yeah, you're gonna be that 40 year old loser staying on people's couches with no future fuck man. Don't do this
40 year old losers staying on people's couches with no future. Fuck man, don't do this.
So when you're in that environment,
like the alt scene when no one's really quite sure,
and then there's a few people that have made it a little bit,
and those are the ones that kind of set the standards,
and they behave that way,
and everybody else wants to be like them.
And they just want to be liked by everybody else.
Everybody conforms.
Everybody becomes like this same thing.
It's that group identity thing,
which is really why things are crumbling right now.
You can't have it.
There is no community.
Any person that tells me I'm in a community,
you're a child.
If your community is not your close friends
and your family, and you say you're in a community,
you're a child.
There isn't, there's no comedy community.
There are a bunch of them. Yeah.
There are little microcosms of groups of people.
Yeah.
But once you have said this is our group identity, like this is what white men are. This is what
black women are.
It's...
Well, one of the nice things about the club is that when we hired Adam Eget to take over
and be the talent coordinator, one of the things that we were real clear
Because he was experiencing a lot of pressure in LA like you get pressure like why don't you have more women on the lineup?
Why don't you have more this in the lineup? How come you have any gay people?
How come you know this I said listen man. This is going to be this club is going to be 100% of meritocracy
I do not give a fuck about any mandates
I don't give a fuck all I care is if you're funny if you're a funny trans person you're funny gay person. You're funny white guy
You're funny black lady who fucking cares? Are you funny? And if you're funny you're in and
Because of that look how fucking diverse the lineup that happens especially with the people coming up
There's all kinds of different kinds of people from all kinds of different walks of life
with totally different styles on stage.
There's so many different styles and complete freedom,
complete freedom to try.
And Adam is so smart that he'll have these conversations
with these people and he'll be like,
I see what you're trying to do.
You know, just, you just gotta like,
gotta hone it in, figure it out. Like I see you're trying to say it like this
But maybe like there's a way to say it that like makes the same point, but it's not it's clunky
So valuable that doesn't happen in New York
It's like you're out if you're not doing what we want and you don't know what they want because it changes
So what's good for us? It's it is it is yeah helping recruiting tremendously when I met Adam. I was like in shock I go
This is so foreign to me a booker who's like
Wants to work with you and like and and we'll take a risk in in like invest in your talent
And he was one of Norm MacDonald's best friends. He did a show with Norm
Yeah guy knows comedy inside and out and I've known Adam for at least 20 years
At least I knew Adam when he was working at the Tempe improv
Back when I would just do the road there and I became friends with him then and then he came to me when I was
Banned from the Comedy Store
He came to me the improv tried it 2007. I was I left the Comedy Store in 2007 over that Carl Smencia thing. Oh. And so I told
him I'm like I'm never coming back. I'm like I'm gone. You've never gone back? No I did.
I went back in 2014. Okay. But one of the reasons I went back is the guy that was running
it was fired. They caught him stealing money. He got fired. And then Adam Eget took over.
And when Adam took over, Adam came to visit me at the improv and I was performing the improv
And he's like I'd really love to have you back at the store. I'm like dude
I don't know if I could fucking go back there, man. I just like I said
I was never going back that the whole thing was so fucked up
He's like, you know, but that guy's gone and it's different now and we're trying to bring the comic store back
And so the reason why I did go back though was because Ari Shafir was feeling a special there
Mm-hmm, and I had been friends with Ari when Ari was a doorman. I met Ari when Ari was just starting out
He was this young fresh-faced doorman who just abandoned religion really recently
And so he was like this young kid and he was funny and I became friends with them
And then I started taking him on the road with me
After a couple years of him you know like seeing
him perform I gave him some spots outside of town I took him to Denver he
killed I'm like goddamn and so I helped you know Ari like I brought him in front
all these crowds I gave him like the kind of advice that I would want someone
to give to me and him performing at the comic store having a Comedy Central
special and doing it at the Comedy Store, having a Comedy Central special,
and doing it at the Comedy Store,
to me was like, I have to be there.
I have to.
I have to see that.
I have to be there.
I have to support him.
I'm so proud of him.
I'm so happy.
I had to go there.
So I went there the day before,
and the day I went, I saw Roast Battle.
And I was like,
this is amazing.
It was so vibrant and so alive and the place was packed.
We're upstairs and I was one of the judges, like you'd have a judge, like that gets to
judge the roasts and we had so much fun and Jeff Ross was hosting it and it was just the whole thing the whole thing was just
It was so
It was so vibrant. I was like this is like a writing exercise
This is like I mean, it's a roast bat roast roast battles are you're picking on someone? Yes
But it's really just a writing exercise with one specific target
That's all it is one topic. Yeah, and Brian Moses is an amazing host of that too. He's so good because he's so likable
He's so fun, and he even makes people hug it out. You know like
At the end we're all gonna hug like you know it's nice
He does a great job of like keeping it peaceful and playful and then I remember being there for that
I'm going okay. I think I gotta come back and
Then the next day Ari did a special was amazing. I couldn't believe I was like this is just so crazy to see him
Filming a special at the Comedy Store from knowing him for being a doorman. Yeah, you know and now here he is
at the comedy store from knowing him from being a doorman. Yeah.
You know, and now here he is.
You see people get so good so fast.
Yeah.
Because I only know him as a killer.
I have no concept of Ari or any of those guys
when they start.
Yeah, that's one of the cool things
about getting to see someone from the very beginning.
You know, when I saw Tony Hinchcliffe,
I think he had been doing comedy five or six years
when I first met him. Yeah, and I look at him been doing comedy five or six years when I first met him.
Yeah, and I look at him.
He's the best.
Tony is the best roaster on planet Earth.
There's no one better, and he'll do it off the cuff.
He can do it off the cuff better than anybody alive.
Yeah, it's so good you think, oh, this is all pre-written.
And you go, no, he just picked all this, you know, I watch him in the mothership.
Dude, he does it in the green room all the time. Him and David Lucas, I keep telling them this, god damn it you motherfuckers, do a show together.
The two of them together are magic.
It brings out the absolute best in David Lucas.
Because David Lucas goes savage on Tony, and Tony goes savage on him, and they're both laughing at each other's lines.
So like, he'll clown Tony, and Tony will be dying laughing.
Like no one gets angry, and he'll clown David,
and David will be dying laughing.
Like personal shit, like about the way he looks,
and dying of diabetes, and dying laughing.
Imagine that happening with like young Gen Z,
awoke people, like experiencing something.
They should have to go to the mothership
and sit and watch that and go,
look, you can tear somebody down and it's all fun.
It's just funsies.
And one of the things about the mothership
that's so important is Kill Tony.
Because what Kill Tony shows everyone is that in one minute,
all you have the time for is to be funny.
And everything funny is rewarded. you could say outrageous things people say outrageous things on kill Tony all the time
But if you do well in that one minute
And they give you a big notebook
And they say we're gonna bring you back and then you get to get a chance to go back or you get a golden ticket you
Get to perform again, or then you become the newest regular and now guys have careers
Yeah, cam Patterson has a fucking thriving career Hans Kim has a thriving career William Montgomery perform again or then you become the newest regular and now guys have careers yeah
cam patterson has a fucking thriving career, hans kim has a thriving career
william montgomery thriving career, david lucas these guys are killing it on the
road killing it. fuck i should have moved here five years ago. no no no perfect time
you're doing great and in the new special you just filmed there is coming out
it is yeah yeah. when are you gonna put it out? It's, it'll be out probably tonight.
Oh shit, that's so fast.
And it was, it's all election stuff.
And I'm not a big fan of themed comedy specials,
but it was just like.
Why not?
I don't know.
No, but why not for now?
Well that's why I changed course.
And I saw that Biden thing where he's sitting
on the imaginary chair and I go,
I gotta get this out now
And the weekend was so fun, man. That room is magical. It's great room. I think that building is alive, dude
It feels like it's been there for 20 years. Yeah, it felt like that right away
The building felt like that right away that building's been there for since 1927
And I have this thought about things that have been around a long time The building felt like that right away. That building's been there since 1927.
And I have this thought about things that have been around a long time. I think memories get baked into buildings.
I really do.
Sure.
When I go to the comic store, every time I go to the comic store, I have this feeling.
You walk in the hallway, you get this feeling like, wow, so much has happened here.
There's so many experiences baked into that.
Even when no one's in that building. I used to like when we were leaving late at night you
know we'd be hanging out in the back bar and Mitzi's bar and we'd be drinking
and talking and everybody's like all right time to go home and we'd go out in
the hallway and you just feel the building. The building that building's
alive. It wouldn't have been the same if you just built a new construction. It wouldn't have, it would
have had that kind of fresh kind of... We would have made it alive. We would have
eventually, it would have, it would have taken a little time. We would have, we
brought the right spirit. We brought the spirit of the Comedy Store to the
mothership. You know, we knew what we needed. We knew what we needed because we
already had it. We had it in LA. We We had that we had a home base and that's what we needed here
Like when we first moved here, I was like god, we don't have a home base
We had the Vulcan which is great, but it wasn't set up the way I would set it up. It wasn't ideal
Like there was a lot of problems with the dynamics of the and I was like, it's also not it's not quite big enough
Like this isn't ideal like so we started looking for other places and then when we found the
mothership when we want when I walked into the Ritz theater and looked around
it was like the place was talking to me it was it just one what was it what did
it look like when you walked well it's been a bunch of things since 1927 it was
a pool hall it was a punk rock club I guess it was a nudie movie theater at
one point in time. I can still feel the vibe yeah and the sexual energy in there
weird energy in that place and then from I think 2007 on it was the Alamo
Drafthouse so that's what it used to look like. Oh my god. Yeah. So it used to be like that.
But is that the whole thing though?
Or is that just what the fat man is now?
That's the fat man.
So the little boy was always there too.
That was a smaller theater.
So the Alamo Drafthouse had two theaters.
One theater that sat like 120 people and one theater that sat like whatever the seats.
We have it set up for 250 people now.
So you see how it angles up
like that? So what we did was we, right where Jamie's cursor is, we cut the floor. And so
we lifted from all the way back to like the second row, we lifted the floor up to that
height so it's flat. And then, so it doesn't angle downward. So
that's the little room, right? So we lifted the floor up to make it closer to the ceiling
and then we changed the dynamics of the stage. So instead of being like this steep angle
like a movie theater where everybody has a nice shot at the screen, it's flat like a
comedy club and then we lowered the ceiling. then so you could see where the balcony is the ceilings lower
Even than the balcony because that was Louie's idea to lower it Louie's idea was like can you lower the ceiling even more?
I'm like I think we can and so I brought in York New York. Everything's just so fucking low
Yeah, it is, but it's also Louie because he's not just a comic
He's also a producer like he's done a lot of films
And he understands like sets and he deeply understands like recording and dynamics is like he goes cover everything with cloth
Like good muffle all the the the back is that the old what was this one?
Wow, they're definitely watching something on this so that was they had one solid balcony back then interesting instead of two balkanings
That's the fat man, too. Yeah
Crazy look at all them back then look at them. I thought I found a picture of Henry Rollins there what yeah
Henry Rollins is on stage there in
1983
Look at that. What year is that from?
in 1983. Look at that. What year is that from? That's crazy. They're watching a talkie there a colored film. That's what it
looked like back then, dude. Isn't that nuts? Yeah, so it's
been there for so long. And it was the the queen it used to be
called Wow. Is that a river in front of it? What is that?
That's the dirt? Oh?
Before was paved well they had pavement yeah, they probably didn't pave it yet and
so um When we got there oh here's another funny story when we got there
We had to tear some of the stuff off the walls and a swastika was painted on the brick whoopsie daisy
Yeah, because you know used to be a punk rock club. I guess someone painted a swastika was painted on the brick whoopsie daisy yeah, because you know used to be a punk rock club
I guess someone painted a swastika on the wall
There's a punk show there. Did I show you that photo of Henry Rollins? I send that to you. I think I did
so
We're doing all the construction and I've figured someone would fucking remove the swastika
But it was like months before we opened, I go,
hey, why is the fucking swastika still here?
And so they go, oh, we'll take it, we'll remove it.
So they removed the paint,
which made a clear white swastika.
I go, hey, retards, get rid of the design.
Don't accept, because now it's even more obvious.
Because now where all the fucking swastika was, design don't accept you now it's even more obvious because now that the where
all the fucking swastika was was sandblasted off in the exact same design
looks cleaner we think it's you know but that's what happens when you hire
laborers don't really necessarily know what that fucking thing they could have
sent it to Columbia University is that Henry Rollins on stage there black flag
1982 Ritz theater yeah shit I sent you one did I show you the one?
I got a better photo of it the better photo was pretty fucking crazy
Hold on a second. I'll get it here. I
Know I got it in this little pile. That's 1980 black and white 1982
I know I got it in this little pile. That's 1980 black and white 1982
Well, you probably hired to put it in black and white do it in black and white It's funny things really do feel old-timey and black and white I
can't find it I
Give up, but anyway point is
We have photos in the the downstairs before you go on stage. There's those photos of Steve Ray Vaughn
That's him on stage in that club in 83 damn
Yeah, so there's like this crazy history that's baked into that place and think about just think about the history in the last year
You've been open. I know how much has happened in that room
Well, how much has happened the Austin comedy scene the fucking scene has exploded
It's pretty well. It's just a neat
It's a it was an empty void that was needed.
Cause you go on the coasts and there's great clubs, but that group identity shit, this race can say this and that, it's every night you gotta sift through that bullshit.
There's also a history of wild comedy here. Cause this is where Bill Hicks started, this is where Kinnison started.
They both started in Texas. And when I had heard about Texas, like Jeanine Garofalo
was out here at one point in Houston. There was a bunch of comics were out here in Houston. And I was like, what is going on in Houston?
I remember hearing about that when I lived in Boston. Because I lived in Boston. Comedy store was Mecca. That was the place you had to get to.
I remember everyone was like, you got to get to the comic store. That's where Richard Richard Pryor started That's where Sam Kinnison started dice clay was there all these comedians were at the Comedy Store
Like you had to get to the Comedy Store. It was the place then I kept hearing about Houston and
then when I saw
Kinnison and Hicks people like you know they came from Houston. I was like what?
Kinnison came from Houston like from Texas Texas made comedian. Where was it performing though?
What was available the last stop the last stop and River Oaks was a fucking amazing club
I don't think it's there anymore
I don't think the clubs not there anymore because the club moved to a new location
And I think that club went under but the original place where the last stop was was a great club
low ceiling The original place where the laugh stop was, was a great club.
Low ceiling, perfect little stage.
And then there was also a little side area where they had an open mic that would go to
like two o'clock in the morning.
Vibrant scene, like really vibrant scene.
And everybody loved to come through Houston and work that club.
And when you work that club, you know, you do like whatever, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Saturday, whatever days you do, you would go there and you'd see the open mics and we packed and the local comics were no idea
They were good man local comics were fucking good
Like, you know, you'd get to see these guys like Jimmy Pineapple these guys like you probably never heard of no
solid fucking comedians
You know and Sean Rouse was there at the time and Ralphie May
There was a lot of comics coming out of that area that I was like, this is nuts, man
I did not know that like Houston like Texas and
Mostly Houston had this scene and Austin had a bit of a scene, but you know a little bit smaller
But nothing was like what it is now. You should have something in the middle of the country. You can't just have
Comedy on the on the liberal coasts. You need something have something in the middle of the country. You can't just have comedy on the liberal coasts. You need something in the middle of the country.
I think that has something to do with it.
It helps for sanity, for sure, but it also helps that it's run by comics.
That club's run by us.
It's our club.
There's no one else.
There's no management.
There's no overseer.
There's no executives that are making decisions based on money
Everything is made based on comedy. Yeah, yeah, I know I know some some places if they get a couple complaints about a joke
They want you to I'm not gonna mention where but I kind of got a little talking to like we got some complaints about this
One joke and I'm thinking like who gives a fuck yeah, the joke kills every time
Yeah, they don't get it. They're working against themselves. Yeah, they don't even understand what they're doing
They're they're literally poisoning their own business with this stupidity
You just gotta like let people know you can be free
And you'll have more audience members
And you will get rid of these people that are looking to be offended
Constantly because it won't be effective all that shit only works if people comply
If people don't comply and then other people go this is just comedy just like when you go to see Quentin Tarantino movies
Nobody's really getting killed. You know Bob Marley. Yeah, Bob Marley never really shot the sheriff
I don't know if you know that that was not real come on. I know come on crazy
Sheriff, I don't know if you know that that was not real come on I know come on crazy
It's comedy and the problem is these fucking idiots that are running these clubs are giving in to the very thing that's gonna kill their
business
This is giving me like a second birth really because I hit this wall where kind of you know
I've developed this act and then you need to experiment
Yeah
And once I started getting challenged when I would try to like veer off and experiment a little and I'm never gonna bomb. I will end strong. I'm there to entertain
the crowd. That's my thing. I'm willing to do crazy shit and experiment but everybody's
paying and they're there and that you know I'm gonna end strong and so yeah that was
enough to get my ass to Texas. I never thought I'd live in Texas. You can be free here. You
can be free here and You can be free here.
And you can be free where we are.
Like it's, we've set it up that way.
We want it to be.
It's like an actual safe space, you know?
For real, like yeah, but safe for everybody, man.
I mean, you can be whatever the fuck you want,
as long as what you're saying is funny.
It's all it is.
There's no room for any horse shit.
No ideology, no nonsense.
It's just, you could have an ideology,
but it's just gotta be funny.
You gotta just be funny.
That is palpable there, or maybe the opposite of that.
There's no like, the meritocracy that you set up,
you can feel that.
You go in there and it's, you're funny or not.
Yeah, and you're supported too.
This identity politics stuff, which is just,
It's killing the business, man. I'm the scene everywhere. Well, it's just bad for some a business
that's about taking risks and saying outrageous things and pushing the envelope and
That's all the greats all the imagine
setting up
like what a comedy club essentially is in this world, in the world of stand-up comedy,
a comedy club is a place where you can hone your craft
and perform.
So you go to clubs, you learn how to do it,
then you go to clubs and you make a living doing it,
and then eventually, if you get big enough,
then you start branching out into theaters and arenas.
So it's literally the gym.
It's literally the dojo.
It's the place where you learn
Imagine having a place where you learn where you can't take chances
Yeah in a business that's wrapped around taking chances where all the greats whether it's Don Rickles
Lenny Bruce George Carlin Richard Pryor all of them said wild shit. Yeah, all of them and
The only way you develop wild shit is by performing it on stage in front of people with freedom
We get a chance. I just watched the George Carlin documentary. Did you see that?
I don't know if it's on HBO or whatever is so good
And I'm almost like man he almost had more freedom than then we he's talking about seven words
You can't say shit piss fuck cuck fuck, cuck, sucker, motherfucker, and tits.
The seven words.
Now it's like the seven million topics you can't talk about.
Race, gender, gender.
But you can.
You can.
You just have to do it.
You can.
And if you have a club that has that established,
like the mothership, anybody could do it.
You don't have to have a big audience.
They'll let you do it.
Anyone will let you do it.
And no one's gonna complain.
And then they will come see you again. Sure. And then you'll develop and then the people coming to
see you know what you do and there's no worries. That's how comedy should be done.
That's the right way to develop both offensive and non offensive acts. Sure.
You know some of my favorite acts are not Nate Bargatze. He's hilarious. Yeah.
Completely non offensive. Hilarious. But that's Nate's act. Yeah, so that's Sebastian
Yeah, same thing great comedians, but that's their thing and that's great
There's no no way you ever want to see a clean person just go
I want to see him do an hour of the filthiest fucking shit. It would be funny Sebastian
You know, you're gonna get you're taking this job. Yeah, I take a girl home the other day she goes
Gonna give you a rim job. I know
Hey, she starts pecking at me like like a baby bird
I go I don't want my girlfriend to have the same lingo as my mechanic
Hey, what are you gonna start tweaking my nipples right? Give me I just want to see him fucking get
Seinfeld yeah talking about fucking trans stuff and all that.
Well, even Seinfeld's pushing back on all this woke shit.
Well, he's getting protest. Have you seen the protests?
Every show now.
It's Palestine protests.
It is, but it's still kind of linked up with like,
we're gonna shut down comedy for our cause.
So he's getting caught up in that stuff.
Well, you got a lot of really dumb young people that are very entitled and think they can shut things down because they have a cost
You think they I mean you think they would learn but they're not going to and they're gonna keep doing it
And there's more attention to get every time they do it see the stop oil now people they just
They vandalize Stonehenge
What the fuck does Stonehenge have to do with oil?
It's an amazing monument that's thousands of years old,
and you just spray paint all over it
because you want people to stop using oil.
That's a mental illness.
And you're wearing clothes made out of oil.
You fucking idiot.
Everything you own was shipped on a truck that was used oil.
Every fucking thing you eat,
every fucking thing in your house,
everything your house is made out of, the electronics on your phone, the
wires in your wall, everything uses plastic you fucking idiot, everything uses
oil. You're not stopping shit. No. Yeah a little tomato soup on the van go. It's
always rich kids too. It's entitled kids. It's posh kids that
think that this is the thing that they should be doing with their life because they don't
have any purpose. They're taught that from now. I mean for me it started popping up in
college a little bit. These kids like age three, anti-racist baby, that's a real book.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah my kid when we were in school Right after the George Floyd thing they sent an email saying to young kids like some of them as young as like six and seven
Went there saying that it's not enough that you not be racist
You have to be anti-racist. They're telling us the kids who don't have any concept of race
They have black friends Indian friends Asian friends. These are friends
Who's nice to me who likes playing the toys that I play with who likes playing the games that I play let's let's hang out
You know they don't care and you're making them
Focus on this for no fucking reason it's gonna fuck them up
Yeah, so fired the person at the school and it became like a big lawsuit
But they realized they were getting grifted on but Jesus fucking Christ you idiots like how did you not see through and the parents were freaking out like what the fuck?
Are you teaching them like why are you doing this like why are you introducing all these ideas?
Is there a if there's a problem let's talk about the problem. There's no fucking problem
This is not an issue at all and you're making it an issue to make yourself important
And that's the problem with these positions.
When people have these positions of equity and inclusiveness.
These people, they have these positions in universities.
They have these positions in corporations.
It's like, God damn.
The whole equity thing, that happened overnight.
The word equality was switched with equity,
the equal outcome. And that's, so you have to force,
that's the only way to do it, is to force it.
We have to force it.
We have to have this person and this person and this race,
but all the identities are becoming infinite now.
So it's like, okay, Kamala Harris,
I mean, they had to discriminate against
every other type of person,
because they said we're having a black woman.
So they had to discriminate against black men yeah and Asian women
and everybody yeah well it's definitely not a meritocracy if you got her no no
none of it makes any sense the whole thing's bonkers man it's a fascinating
fascinating time to be alive but it's good for comedy good for comedy I'm
actually playing a DEI officer a a Jedi, he's called, justice, equity, inclusion officer,
and Adam Carolla has a new cartoon out, Mr. Burcham,
which he pitched that like 10, 15 years ago to Fox,
and they said no, and Daily Wire,
who's just like scooping stuff up, they produced it.
I think a lot of that was a response to what we were talking
About once we're saying you can't make a good comedy movie now because no one will go off
Jeremy saw you saw that and was like fuck dude keep they wrote that thing in like two weeks
They flew me out to punch it up. We filmed it in like three weeks, and it was out. That's why but this is mr.
Birch from Kyle's in it
Megan Kelly's in it and Kelly. It's got a cast, man.
Nice.
It's got Jay Moore.
That's my little diversity officer guy.
Alonzo. I love Alonzo.
Nice.
It's like a family guy.
It's a fun time to push back. It's a fun time to push back.
Yeah.
It's a fun time to push back.
Things have gone a little bit haywire, but we're gonna be alright.
For a comedian? Oh my god.
I just wake up and I just look at the headlines.
And one thing that comedy does do is it highlights how ridiculous these things are and it takes some of the weight off of them.
Yeah. It's the only way. Even look with the word woke.
Woke used to be a cool thing.
And because of comedy, it's now a clown world word.
Yeah, it's a clown world word that you
can't use on the other side.
You can't say, I'm woke.
Because I was like, bye.
You fucking idiot.
You fucking loser.
Yeah, you fucking idiot.
So it becomes pejorative.
It becomes something that someone points to. It says it says oh you're infected with the woke mind virus
like no
No, like no one who is woke claims woke. No, you can't do it. They used to that's from comedy
That is from it just from memes. It's from the internet. Yeah, that's what it is man. Incredible. Well, listen, dude
I'm happy you're here. Hey, thank you very very You're a very very funny guy, it's been really fun
watching you perform at the club.
I appreciate it man.
You're killing it, your special's gonna fucking destroy.
I saw some clips, it's really funny.
Thank you for building this thing that is so needed.
My pleasure, thanks for joining the team.
People flying out from around the world now are showing up.
Yeah, yeah it's fun, we're having a good time.
Awesome.
And we're gonna keep rolling man, we got more plans.
I can't wait, I'm two weeks in here so So yeah, we're gonna expand get me buff, please
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And yeah specials out now. It's called the election special and I have a pandemic special too that I filmed when
I was canceled.
Kind of illegally, I filmed in a comedy club that I wasn't allowed in.
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Nice.
All right, dude.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
My pleasure, brother.
Welcome aboard.
Good to be here.
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