The Joe Rogan Experience - #2173 - Jimmy Dore

Episode Date: July 4, 2024

Jimmy Dore is a stand-up comic, political commentator, and host of "The Jimmy Dore Show" on YouTube. Watch his new special, "Covid Lies Are Funny," at jimmydore.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. What killed R.F.K.? What? His Zionism. You know, if he didn't have that, he could... I think he could be president, but... You mean R.F.K. Jr.? Yeah. Oh. I was confused. I was like figuratively I was like how does have anything to do with the boycott of Starbucks and McDonald's and Sir Hans Sir hand like what? Some rabbit hole shit. I didn't know about is that possible. You know Sir Hans Sir hand His house was in Pasadena, which was close to where I used to live really yeah I didn't one day my wife was like yeah, the sir and sir and lives over here like get out of here

I didn't know have you ever read into the MK ultra connection between sir hands her hand Jack Ruby and Jolly West so No, I haven't but I now I'm working with Kurt Metzger, and he knows He knows too much. You know I'm like well. He just go on and him you ruined him Because he didn't I don't think he's aware of so many legitimate actual Conspiracies meaning like where governments and corporations conspire against the American people lie Twist facts distort things but Kurt is one of those guys that once he finds out something You know because he had grew up in a cult, right? Yeah, so he's in a Jehovah's Witness cult when he was young

Yeah, sorry Jehovah's Witnesses, he was young. Sorry, Jehovah's Witnesses. And then becomes a comedian, and he's so averse to bullshit. He's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no! Because you fucking ruined my childhood. I know what this is, I've seen this before. I've seen this in another form. I know what this is.

Yeah, that's his superpower, because he's been through it. You ruined him. His show, you ruined superpower because he's been through it. You ruined him his show you ruined him He's so he's so crazy now. He's so mad. You see him get upset on the show He gets legit angry here it is other controversial cases West was assigned to including evaluating Sir Hans or hand who assassinated Robert F Kennedy June excuse me at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles June 5th Kennedy June excuse me at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles June 5th 1968 West claimed Sir Ham was a subject of psychic driving a

mind-altering technique involving hypnosis or paralytic drugs Psychiatrists often use barbiturates for this settle the fuck down you used acid Stop lying. What is this? Oh, maybe possibly barbiturates or something legal. No, they were using acid Who's this West guy jolly West was the head of MKUltra Oh, yeah, the Chronicle extensively in Thomas O'Neill's book chaos about the Manson case Oh, so yeah, my wife is reading that right now. God damn. That's a good book. She has it on audiobook So I walk in the house and I'll hear like what the fuck?

You know crazy that book is Tom was Greg Fitzsimmons' roommate in New York. And then also, not roommate, excuse me, neighbor. He was his neighbor in New York. And then also his neighbor in Venice, California. So they were like near each other. For 20 years, this guy's been working on this. He started working on it as an article, right? So he writes it as an article.

But then once he starts getting into the information, it's so extensive, it's so crazy, that he can't finish the article. Because the article is just an anniversary of the Manson assassinations, the Manson killings. So then, 20 years later, he finally puts out this book. And he's got enough information for another fucking book. And it's wild. It's all a CIA plot. The Manson family was all, Manson was visited in prison by Jolly West. They trained him, allegedly, in hypnosis techniques using LSD, how to mind control people. He would not do the acid, but he would give the acid to the people,

which is something also that apparently the MK Ultra people trained him and he would get them to commit evil acts and the whole thing was to discredit the anti war movement that's the whole thing was the hippies yeah yeah so they turn hippies into something fucking terrifying so hippies used to be like oh she's a flower child Yeah, they're peace and love you know cute nice stuff but then they turned hippies into fucking psychotic murderers who cut babies out of movie stars bellies and Paint on the wall pig you know that kind of shit

Yeah, Kurt yeah, Kurt was also telling me about that like that's the perfect way to discredit the anti-war movement Yes, well, that's also why the psychedelics acts of 1970 was passed. Oh, really? Yes, the psychedelic act of 1970 was passed to go after the Black Panthers and to go after the civil rights leaders and to Go after the anti-war movement because those people were all taking drugs So they're eating mushrooms and trying to come to like some sort of an understanding of our place in the universe. And they said, okay, we're going to take all of these psychedelic compounds that are literally creating a cultural revolution. So you go from the 1950s, you get, I always say music is like the best representation of that and comedy as well, but really music. If you look at like Buddy Holly, great music, great stuff,

and then Jimi Hendrix is 10 years later. What the fuck is that? What is, that's like a revolution. Like out of nowhere, something is insanely different. Like it's not even from this earth. Not even from this earth. That's all psychedelics. And we've never had a leap like that since.

Nope. Isn't that weird? Like you listen to music from the 80s and a lot of it sounds like it could be made today. It's Coke music. The 80s they were all doing Coke. They were watching Miami Vice, they were doing Coke, wearing no socks with loafers.

But remember, I mean, whenever I hear a Prince song, I'm like, oh, that could be made today. That could have been from right now. Yeah, well, Prince was the most versatile, right? Because he could do anything. Like, if you go to his early stuff, it was like this real sweet music about fucking. You know?

Yes, yes, it was all about fucking. Like, Head, you ever heard that song, Head, like from his first album, or I was thinking his second album? God, he was good. He was so good. I love that he had that, there was that band, of Morris Day in the Time. Yes!

I like them almost more than Prince. I just like them. Oh, he's got this one song that's on our, I think it's on the playlist. I hope it's on the playlist. It's called, if it's not, I'm gonna put it on there right now. It's called Cool, Cause I'm Cool. Yeah, that's right. Am I done in San Francisco? Dance all night in Rome. That's it, yeah.

Yeah, Maurice Davis is shit. Maurice, bring me by. I love that. I thought that Maurice Day was going to be bigger than- I know. Well, I didn't think he was ever going to be bigger than Prince. I think Prince is a legitimate, was, excuse me, a legitimate genius. Oh yeah, he was.

And he's another guy that we lost because of fucking bullshit because of fentanyl Yeah, you think that's what you okay? That's what happened to him. What do you what do you think about? So now people are revisiting the money wasn't in the playlist it is now Oh, it is and I put it in the mothership playlist or how's that? He has a song called walk everybody Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy walk you by About to walk a hole in my my Stacy's he was just so cool and so that I would go out and buy Stacy Adam shoes I would and so we would there was this place oh

there was a very derogatory it was the Maxwell Street in Chicago and they used to call it I can't say it but because it's anti-semitic. And so we would go down there and you could walk, and there are all these clothes stores, and you could bargain with them. And I never experienced that before. Like you walk in and usually the price was the price. You go to the mall, the price is, you can't bargain,

but you could bargain. So it was like an exciting thing to do. Me and my brothers would all go down there and you'd go into all these stores and you'd like put all these clothes together like we'd start bartering like, okay, how about this? How about that? It was fun.

I miss those days. That's where in the Blues Brothers, remember they go down to get the black guy who's the clarinet player and you better think, think, think. So that whatever, that's where that took place. clarinet player and Bad think they think So that whatever that would that's where that took place And but I think that's all gone now. I think they got rid of that and they I don't know what they probably an Applebee's I think the University of Illinois Chicago made me be expanded into there and took over. Interesting, interesting.

Those were the days. I missed the Morris Day in the time. I missed those days. These are the best days. But then there's These days right now, these are the best days. You think? Yeah, by far.

By far. Well, they are for me. By far for everybody. Because we get all the other stuff from those other eras. We still can listen to that too. We can still watch that too. But we have a bizarre time where the world is waking up, where people are so much more aware of the corruption and just the way the world works is more highlighted than it's ever been before.

And I think it's more fun. It's like some of the things that are stupid are so stupid. Like when you see Biden, we beat Medicare. And they go, thank you Mr. President. And they smash cut. Like how the fuck is that real? How is that real? The guy like locks up like Windows 95, stammers for 15 seconds.

And then he says, we beat Medicare. I was doing a show the other night at the Hotel Cafe in Hollywood, and I do a joke about Joe Biden, you know, like one of the good dogs, a Liam off stage, you know? And the people in the crowd, like they're all like 20-something Hollywood people,

and they go, aw. And I was like, what? I go, I have friends like you. I know what that, it's- Listen, they've done a good job They've done a really good job of pretending. I love Joe Biden. I love it I've always loved Joe. No one's ever fucking loved Joe Biden Yeah

He's always been a joke and a punchline and this idea that somehow it's Joe Biden's integrity and truth-telling Against Donald Trump. He lied lied the first time Joe Biden ran for president, he had to drop out because he got exposed for being a pathological liar. He said he graduated at the top of his class, he graduated at the bottom. He said he had three majors, he had anyway. He said he was chosen the most outstanding political,

no, it was all lies. And then he got called plagiarizing. Someone else, not only did they use their speeches, but like their life story. He like, it was like, who does that? And so he had to, he's been a joke, always was a joke. And this idea, you know, the reason why black and brown had to, I had to, you know, tell this to Cornel West when he came on my show. Hey, the reason why black and brown people are locked up at way higher rates

in their population is because of Joe Biden, not because of Donald Trump. Donald Trump actually did the step back, right? Which is probably why he's, not because of Donald Trump. Donald Trump actually did the Step Back, right? Which is probably why he's getting 20% of the black vote right now. So this, all their, you're right, all their narratives are falling away. People are waking up and not only in America, but I do, not to get, I do miss a time

before cell phones and the internet. It was more of an innocent time. I do miss that time. I'm glad we went through it. Yeah, I mean, I'm also glad. But I don't miss it. Okay, but... Um... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And I didn't know if I was gonna have, you know, everybody's gonna show up. They did, and it's like the same shit.

That people, they're upset at the media, they're upset at the control, they're upset at the censorship. And I didn't know, like Jeff Bezos, I was in Norway, and they're like, yeah, Jeff Bezos owns the fricking media here too. I'm like, what? I didn't know, I never thought about it like that.

Of course they would. Of course. And so, and everybody's going through the same shit. London, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, they're all fucking pissed off, like I am. And they're like all sick of being lied to and they all hate their media and they all feel controlled. That's what's good about today. Because before, the media used to do

exactly what they're doing now, but they didn't, it wasn't transparent. Right. Nobody knew, right? Well, there used to be exactly what they're doing now, but they didn't it wasn't transparent right nobody knew right well there used to be 50 giant media companies so there used to be more truth that could get out But now because of Bill Clinton and the telecommunications act in 1996 We went from 50 giant media companies down to six meaning that every TV show every newspaper every magazine every TV show, every newspaper, every magazine, every radio show, it all comes from one of the six companies. And that's why journalism sucks so much right now, because journalists used to come from blue collar backgrounds like me,

but now they know they all have to work for one of the six billionaire owned companies, and so the billionaires handpicked those people from Ivy League schools now, and they're all gonna be class loyal. And so that's why the whole thing is, it's a great time, but also we're pitted against each other now by the media like never before.

No matter what the story is, they have their minions in the press reported in a way that makes you hate your neighbor and blame your neighbor and not the guys doing it. So the oligarchy keeps us fighting amongst each other and that's real, that's not made up. I mean, look at how they lied about the biggest story, so the Kyle Rittenhouse story, right?

Now, I hated that kid because the corporate media told me he was a white supremacist who didn't live in that community. He traveled across state lines with guns to shoot three black people at a Black Lives Matter rally, and I hated him. And then I watched the trial and it turns out he did live in that community. He was a lifeguard in that community. He was asked to protect a car dealership by immigrants of color because the cops wouldn't and he didn't travel across state lines with guns and he didn't shoot three black people,

he shot three white people and I was like... I think he only shot two guys. Maybe you're right. He killed one. Did he shoot three? And then he shot the other guy through the arm. And they're all three criminals. That's another part they leave out. They're all three criminals, terrible people. This is the thing about Riots right when riots are too much like a war like any kind any time

There's a gathering protests when people get angry and they're marching I think that ignites in us the same feelings of war and people start doing wild crazy shit They went after that do with a skateboard and tried to hit him with a skateboard He ran away from them before he shot him so he shot the first guy who was the putte-a-file, right? And we know that guy had threatened to... So he shot and killed two men, wounded another man. So he killed two and wounded one. And the first guy he shot had threatened to kill him all day long, and we know that he attacked him because his fingerprints are on the gun barrel. It even says it right there in Wikipedia. Stop, go back.

Yeah, grab the barrel of his rifle. There it is. But it says, look at this, a race was a major theme in the US media commentary, although Rittenhouse and those he shot were white. White? Isn't that wild? Yes. Most people didn't know, including people that met Kyle Rittenhouse.

Like someone, David Lucas, the stand-up comedian, he knows Kyle Rittenhouse. He brought Kyle Rittenhouse to the mothership. And guys who were there, who met him, the guys you shot were white? Yeah. Like everybody's like, what? Yeah. And then you have to tell them, not only were they white, like these guys are like career criminals.

One guy was a pedophile. The one guy pulled a gun on him? Yeah. Yeah. The media just fucked that kid, and he won. And he won, and he got exonerated, and you know the media just fucks that kid and he won and I've won and he got exonerated and you know now Good. No people say to me they go Jimmy. Why are you defending Kyle Rittenhouse? I go I'm not defending Kyle Rittenhouse I don't know Kyle Rittenhouse

I'm defending the truth and why aren't you pissed off that the corporate media lied about a 16 year old kid to divide the country? Because that's what that was about. Yeah, and you're just gonna polarize that kid even more I mean that kids gonna lean so far right now. Of course. Of course. They're the only people that stood by him and everybody else lied about him. The media lied about him and so many people had this. So right there's surface narratives right and surface narratives are the best. The media is the best at propagating surface narratives. They're best at headlines even if they're misleading.

Safe and effective. Yeah, but these surface narratives are the ones that get into people's heads that are the least informed. And that's the general population. People still think Russia Gate's real. Oh, yeah. People like Bill Maher.

Oh, yeah. That was shocking to me. I'm like, oh, I thought he just hated Trump. But it's like. He doesn't even know what the WEF is all about. Did you see, Roseanne had to tell him. Yeah, that's crazy. He didn't even know what the WF is. He didn't even see Roseanne had to tell him Yeah, that's he didn't even know MK ultra was that's crazy. That's like that's crazy And then he got the balls to tell bill burr. This isn't your lane

It's not your lane either bill you don't know fucking anything bro bill chewed him up. That was wild You can't go tat tat tat like that with pills. He does that to himself all day all day He's like battling out in his own mind having arguments. Well, look at you fucking Bill. Look at you. You fucking stupid sneakers on. You're 55 years old. Dressing like a teenager. What the fuck are you doing? What'd you ever do? Why should people listen to you? You're fucking... You're fucking pasty retarded.

You're not a general. You never did anything. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. But that's the, you know, the biggest shocker to me was like the bubble that people live in, right? And it's like, don't you, it's just like with the debate. Like, do you think that the lies that the media has been telling from, I've been saying Joe Biden's been a demented walking death rattle since 2019. And it's because it's been obvious

that he's suffering from something. Well, there's a decline, right? If you just saw him in 2019, it wouldn't be as obvious. But if you saw him from like when he was running for president in 1988, which I did, I took, did I ever tell you about Joe Biden night that we used to have at Stitches? No.

Stitches Comedy Club in 1988, we had Joe Biden night. And what is that? That would mean I would go on stage and do your act and you go on stage to do my act because he's a plagiarist exactly so we would call it Joe Biden night and all the comics would go up and do each other's acts that sounds like fun it was fun it was so fun because just like some guys you know you watch it got like Jimmy Tingle or you know back in those days yeah Sweeney you get to you watch a guy like Jimmy Tingle or, you know, back in those days, Steve Sweeney. You get to, you could go up and do their act.

Fizzy, fizzy, fizzy, fizzy, fizzy. Yeah, and the guys you work with all the time, where you got to see their set all the time, you go up and do their act. And we had a great time. But it was open mockery that he was a known plagiarist. In 88. In 88.

I know that's why this whole, this rehabilitation, it's all because of Trump derangement syndrome, though they have to pretend like Joe Biden's some kind of guy with integrity and dignity instead of you know the horrible criminal anti-worker guy that he's been his whole life. He's been anti-student anti-worker and he he crossed a goddamn railroad strike and everybody just memory holds that that that happened like he if Trump did that they would it would be on billboards forever. And again, it's... Joe, why do you think that these...

Because my whole life, the establishment loved Donald Trump, right? Because the only option is if you don't go with Biden, then you're not with the Democrats. The Democrats view themselves as a team. They view themselves as a team as much as patriots think of America first. It's like that team is Democrats first. And that's the only representation they have right now. Like, apparently, now I don't know if this is true, but someone was telling me, were you telling me about this, Jamie? About the live streaming of, was it you? Or was it someone else? Of Rob Reiner and all these people?

Oh, they were crying. I'll find the story when I get it out. They were all live streaming the debate and freaking out. Barbra Streisand's crying. Ah! These people are deranged. These people are no different than the Manson family in that they are in a cult. Yeah.

They're locked into this ideology. It's not as bad as the Manson family, but it's clearly a cult. It's an ideological cult where you're not willing to go against any of the doctrines of the cult and one of them allowed to you're not allowed to have you have to practice groupthink and that's yeah and Bill Mars a heretic even though he's like he's very much a Liberal he's a heretic because he says cuz every once in a while. He'll tell the truth a lot of times He just he's not as like he was I'd like him to be about some of the stuff like MK ultra the W Ukraine well, I don't know what he knows about Ukraine, but he hates Donald Trump I think I couldn't figure it out on the pocket

He wouldn't even like have a rational discussion as to why he hates him. He's crazy Yeah, but the thing he I found out that he was sued by Donald Trump. Yes so that's that's probably it cuz he when he said that Donald he was an orangutan and So he sued him Hollywood's debate watch party with Rob Fonda ended in shouts and tears That should have been fuck keeping over the Kardashians Yeah, that should be the fucking the real and that's what you get and I say good for you

That's what you get for fucking lying They've all lied, you know, I think the media took just as big a hit as Joe Biden did that night because now I mean just A few weeks ago. There's that Joe Scarborough that mental case on a morning Joe and MSNBC And he was saying let me tell you something and if you don't believe it f you he says this on six in the morning This is what he's telling his audience f you this is the best version of Joe Biden. I've ever seen This is the best for it and then like let's play it let's play it's amazing. It is amazing Wasn't he a Republican and they say yes, and they say that Trump is the liar It's like they are right now in the middle of telling the biggest lie and it's ever been told in politics

It's bigger than FDR can walk. This is bigger than that. Hampton real estate is not cheap. And you got to do some things maybe you don't want to do if you want to buy that sweet house and just drink your champagne by the lake. Just looking over the bay rather just looking over in the ocean going I fucking made it baby I'm here in the Hamptons. And that's yeah that's it's I'm about to go to dinner with Rob Reiner. Hey, I've always, you know, I've always said, hey, I don't know if I'm better or worse than

those people, but you know, I've never had, no one ever made an offer to sell, to buy me out. So I don't know how I would react. I don't think it's a buyout or a sellout thing, man. That's a thing that people think. I think what happens is you get locked into a cult. And then I think also you get invited to things with important people, and that 100%

will shape the way you talk about stuff. If you get invited to a dinner with Bill Gates and some very important people, when their name comes up, you're gonna defend them. Well, Barack Obama talked about how just being in the room with the donor class changes you. Just being in the room with them. Of course.

And Chris Hayes wrote a book called The Twilight of the Elite about how that happens. And then he became the thing he wrote about. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I don't know much about that. Don't you think it's amazing how they fired all the, they fired the Arab reporters and the Muslim reporters at MSNBC because they were they were telling a little bit of the truth about

what's happening or they were confronting people over it and you have to have one one narrative and that's it and then and then but none of the like you they're supposed to stand up for these why didn't Rachel Maddow say something why didn't Chris Hayes that they'd none of them said anything none of a fake tough guy Lawrence O'Des? None of them said anything. None of them. Fake tough guy, Lawrence O'Donnell. None of them said anything. They just, okay, well keep your head down and keep taking it.

You know, Rachel Maddow gets paid $100,000 a day. Like to me, I don't know. That's a lot of money. Good for her. That's a good. You buy a lot of man suits with that money. Do you have a Joe Scarwell video? When she was being interviewed by Ben,

who's the, what's his name? Ben Ben the guy who did Tropic Thunder Ben? What's it Ben still and stiller Of course Of course That's one way that for whatever reason Hardcore lesbians when they want to be taken seriously they dress like a man and they dress like a man in a business outfit yeah I can't a Gatsby okay look how she dresses she puts a suit jacket on she's fat I'm serious I'm here for the meeting I'm here to explain things to people

Let me hear it. Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth. And F you, if you can't handle the truth. It's six in the morning. It's six in the morning. F you. This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. Not a close second. I've known him for years. The Brzezinski's have known him for 50 years 50 and we're all fucking liars And these people say that Trump's a liar that's I mean Trump's a huge bullshitter for sure But this we're in a Coen Brothers movie. Yeah, this is unbelievable

And so how if you can you imagine the P, I don't know how many people watch that show. 45 people. Can you imagine still tuning in after that? Yes. I just tried to fucking wake and bake and let's go. Tell me about the world, Joe. I used to watch, I used to, before I went to sleep, I used to,

I would be, I used to be a night owl when I was just a comedian before my show and So I like it I would wait till 3 in the morning. I'd be up late I'm like, oh I can't I can wait I can watch Joe Scarborough before I go to bed morning Joe so and the joke I used to do is I I watch it before I go to bed because I like to go to bed angry and that I don't know how anybody could watch that again after that. How could you, and have any self respect,

unless you're high and you're enjoying it. You have to be high and enjoying it. And then it becomes high comedy. Because it's so good, that was so good. That was so good. If you put that in a movie, people wouldn't buy it. I know. They would go, come on, no, that's not real.

No one would do that. This is stupid, I've lost my disbelief.. No, that's not real. No one would do that. This is stupid I'm I've lost my disbelief. F you he's gonna tell his own audience F you if you don't believe Joe Biden's not to met Yeah, if I was in a movie theater my suspension of disbelief would go come on This is I'm that's why I was confused when I was looking there's other videos. I'm seeing that might have been a different time and no no no no no no no that was just a few weeks ago this is saying right here post the debate and he's saying like they should replace after the debate and after the debate that's part of the thing so that was right

before that yeah that was like weeks after okay so that was weeks before the debate he's saying that I'm like can you believe the balls on these crazy balls and so then after the debate he does this 180 and there's all these videos That show him before and after so that the greatest 180 turn around of all time So if you go to the one up there with the black and white Joe and then I guess yes, that's the one show that It's only 30 seconds. Yeah, but I undersold him when I said he was coach coach. It's far beyond coach Oh, he's be a he's I think he's better than he's ever been This is a battle for the future of American democracy

And now is a good time in June. Thank God in June and not October in June This is the last chance for Democrats to decide Whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time Is up to the task so that That's just a matter of weeks in between those two Joe Yeah, F you and I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true. Okay now we could thank God we can replace them Well, here's why I have a theory about this by the way, okay So they've never done to presidential debates this early in the election season before right? And so my theory is that his his own team sabotaged him.

They knew this. So they wanted to get Joe Biden through the primary because now all the delegates are beholden to Joe Biden means they're beholden to the Democratic Party donor class, right? So there isn't no 50% Bernie Sanders delegates out there. They're not gonna have any trouble getting them to all coalesce at the convention and pick a new person.

So they wanted to get Joe Biden to go through, and then as soon as he got through the thing, they're like, oh, let's have a debate, and then they knew he would look like this, so then they can have enough time to get rid of him. That seems pretty plausible that that's what's gonna happen, and guess what's gonna happen now?

So they're gonna have a person at the top of the ticket Who nobody voted for because they're gonna choose them at the convention and nobody voted for this person and they're saying Democracies on the ballot. That's the irony Isn't that wild yeah Well, not only that but what did they do to keep RFK jr. Out of the primaries to the point where he had to go independent? What did they do to keep RFK Jr. out of the primaries to the point where he had to go independent? So yeah, they were making it impossible for him to get on ballots.

They were, they were, they were, they were, they were. How did they do that? You know what, I had, he told me, but I can't remember, but they were making it, well, when I remember the first time I had him on my show, I was, I was, it was like a joke. I'm like, dude, you're running as a Democrat. I go, why do you think they have superdelegates?

They have superdelegates for people like you. It's not gonna happen. I can't get excited about your candidacy And so what anything he said I just didn't get into it, right? I was appreciative of the stuff he was saying around kovat and things like that But it was just the I told him it's a fool's errand, right and he's like, I'm a Democrat I've always been a Democrat. I'm a Democrat and I'm like, yeah The Democrats are gonna to screw you. And they did. And so I don't know exactly how, but it got so untenable that he couldn't run inside the

– because they would have these different rules that they were just making up just to screw him. So then – Now, do they do this once there's an incumbent, right? Once there's a president in place, do they do this because there's so many jobs that are completely dependent upon that guy being in office? just the democratic party, but that guy so if a new guy comes in like if rfk jr comes in if he wins then Everyone's out of a job

Oh, yeah, well, uh the whole machine's out of a job So it's very clear watching joe biden talk very clear that he's not making all his decisions And someone writes his stuff down. We've seen the cue cards that he's not making all his decisions and someone writes his stuff down we've seen the cue cards that he has they tell him what to say we see him read teleprompters and say end of quote he says things like that again this is again does it all the time we so we know that there's no fucking way he's the the man behind that the machine so that means there's a bunch of people that work for him that are essentially running the country.

Right. And those people don't wanna lose that position, including his wife. His wife apparently by all takes, and she did an interview afterwards where she said he's smarter than he's ever been, and I know him, I see him buying clothes. She doesn't want him to stop.

Pure evil. What is that? That's just pure evil. I mean- Do you think it's just like a power thing? She's in power, she doesn't wanna not be the first lady anymore, like what is it? Yeah, of course, that's what I think it is.

How could you not have compassion for your own fricking husband? I mean, Jesus Christ, I mean, he shoulda had his keys taken away years ago, and here she is trying, and you did a good job, you answered all the questions. That was crazy, that was crazy. That's how you talk to a three-year-old. He answered all the questions, I could see answering one or crazy. That's how you talk to a three year old.

He answered all the questions, I could see answering one or two, but all of them. If my wife talked to me like that, I would just start laughing. Because I would think, oh she's fucking with me. I wouldn't just stand there and like, yes I did. It's a wild video. Play that video. Play that video of Jill saying that to Joe. Because I saved it.

And by the way, I listened to the debate again on the plane. Why? You didn't even fucking get the pertinent information round one like I need to go over this with a fine-tooth comb because because they kept saying that oh because the line now is that Joe might not have answered the questions you know like quickly or loudly but he was telling the truth that his first answer he lied three times Joe Biden he lied about the Medicare's so it answer, he lied three times. Joe Biden. He lied about the Medicare's, it's $2,000. He said it was $200. He lied about the diabetes and he lied about Trump

saying the bleach thing. Trump never said the bleach thing. He was talking about ultraviolet irrigation, which is a real thing that actually works. It actually works. And not only that, they've used it for decades. Yeah, but... And there was talk about using it for respiratory diseases and shining light into the lungs. So I've talked to a doctor who told me that that worked well and so the people like the medical association they came to me and they go, hey you have to sell this technology to us and he said no and they said, well if you have to sell this technology to us and And he said no and he's go well if you don't we're gonna have a bullshit study that says this doesn't work And that's exactly what they did Wow and they do that to everything that let's play this real quick Oh, bro, he looks so baffled. First of all, if I was in his corner, first thing I would have done is given him a hair

piece. Let's go, bro. You can't compete with Trump's wacky hair. You need fake hair. You need fully fake hair. I think they'll buy it. Don't even sweat it. We're gonna glue a nice piece on you. You're gonna have a distinguished head of hair. Second of all, whoever the fuck is giving your Botox, back off a little.

Let the guy move the forehead a little bit. This is ridiculous. You're not tricking me to think that he's young. I know exactly how old he is. Go to the... Watch how she how she oh no that's not it But she helps him up. Yeah, this is it watch. Yeah, she has to walk him down the steps Yeah, are they gonna show it show it well? Yeah? He's he's got some bad knees show it old war injuries, bro Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was defending the girl scouts from the Taliban look at this. Yeah, look at this I know it's crazy. Yes, and if you don't think that's the best version fuck you Joe If you fuck if you I love that guy because he's the tough guy Democrat

Yeah, he's our but he's a little dog. No no no he's a Democrat. He's on TV. Oh, yeah NBC MSNBC whatever it is yeah Well that this goes to show you that there is there's no difference between the parties and I remember when Donnie Deutsch Accidentally let it slip out on Joe Scarborough show that Joe Scarborough actually a Republican He was he was a Republican was but does he consider himself one now? I think so I know I I mean just like it never Trump never Trump Republican Yeah, and Donnie Doit said that I remember if if Bernie Sanders wins the this was in back in 2020 if Bernie Sanders wins He I'll have to vote for Trump and Joe Scarborough's like, oh, do you hear what you're saying? And I do is like, oh, yeah

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know why I said that I know why you said that cuz you fucking would that's why They they they scared of Bernie people people who? Bernie Sanders presents as being turns out Bernie Sanders isn't that guy Bernie Sanders is a lapdog to power But but he didn't he just seem to become that as of recently Yeah, I mean, I think he always was he was hired when you go back in time And you know, he didn't he stopped talking to Ralph Nader. He stopped talking to Michael parent day He was for the bombing of Kosovo He's always been a little bitch for the military-industrial complex and he it's disgusting and so when if you

really look yeah I got so excited about Bernie Sanders right I mean that was so I've never been more excited about a politician in my life and I've never been more let down by a politician in my they lied about the cares act and he lied about putting oh we had to do it for the unemployment like that was just the largest you know that was the largest upward transfer of wealth in human history was the CARES Act. And they, that's a, nobody talks about that. Explain the CARES Act to people.

So that was when, right when COVID hit and they passed that five trillion dollar bill, five trillion dollars, just out of nowhere, they didn't go, they didn't go tax people for it, they just fucking printed it. Five trillion dollars and that was considered the largest upward trade so that's member and none of them There was no money in there for to pay people salaries remember like that's what other countries did the five trillion go towards Went towards the thousand richest motherfuckers in the country basically that's what it you know That's where you got the you could if you had a business you could apply for a person of some kind of PPE Loan and stuff like that.

A lot of people scam those loans. A lot of people. I've seen so many arrests of people that bought Lamborghinis and shit. You got one of those loans? I was like, fuck, everybody else is getting one. I better get one. Wow. And I was like-

To pay your staff and everything like that? Yeah. I told my wife, I go, we don't know what's going to happen. So I said, hey, apply, see what happens. They gave it to us. I was like, what? I couldn't we don't know what's gonna happen. So I said hey apply see what happens. They gave it they give it to us I was like what I Couldn't fucking believe it. So you have to pay it back. Is that what it is? No, it's just free money No, if you don't if you don't lay off anybody

Like for a certain amount of time then you get to keep it. But if you did it, yes, you just get free money Yeah, whoa. Yes, that's what he got fucking was five trillion dollars They gave up Joe. Yeah, and they gave it out probably to companies that didn't lose profit? I bet. Yeah. Right. So they didn't fire companies and they didn't stop operations. I wonder if somebody should look into how much did Amazon get? Did they get money? Did they get that kind of money even though they're smart? They got paid. There's a dirty corrupt system They're a part of it. Let's go. Let's party. I think we bust this move out everybody sick

But don't you think the care it's called the cares act it's called the care like a patriot act What aren't you a patriot and they say yeah, are you a patriot? You don't care about America? Why do you care about America? No, why do you hate freedom? Yeah, what do you hate freedom? You won't sign the America? Why do you care about America? No, why do you hate freedom? Yeah? What do you hate freedom you won't sign the Patriot Act? It's called the Patriot Act the most nazi like thing ever We can now spy on you Patriot Act to okay. They get to the Patriot Act to okay Electric Boogaloo or the National Defense Authorization Act. Oh, yeah those ones would pass through the in the 2011 Authorization Act. Oh yeah.

Those ones, they pass through the. In the 2011 NDAA section 1021, Barack Obama got rid of habeas corpus. That's not important. What's really important is that we get these trillionaires all their money for COVID. Got rid of habeas corpus, Joe. So now, I mean, habeas corpus was in the Magna Carta.

So now we're operating on a Liberty view from somewhere around the 1100s. That's what that's, and people, democracy's on the ballot, you fucking moron. Democracy hasn't been on the ballot for decades and decades. You don't live in a democracy, you live in an oligarchy,

which was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years ago. And when are you gonna get pissed off about that? Nope, nope, because the TV guy says, no, no, it's Joe Biden's democracy and Trump isn't. And don't you love all that shit about how, oh, he'll never leave office? I didn't know that was an option. I didn't know a president could just decide to not.

So every president has left office just because they're good people? Just because they decided to? Oh, he's gonna be a dictator. I didn't know a president, I thought we had co-equal branches of government. How is this all shit? They just say this shit and it's none of it's true. and they all just make it up. He was already president one time

He left office. Yeah, we don't live through it. Everybody's pretending that if he gets into office He's gonna be the horrible thing that they predicted that didn't take place when he was in office for four years Why would he what evidence you basing this on? The evidence that when he was in prep when he was the president, and he was for four fucking years, like he did none of those things. He didn't prosecute his political rivals. He didn't go after Hillary Clinton. He didn't lock her up.

He didn't lock her up. Even though she's a super criminal. Remember the FBI, the Comey guy came out and he said, yeah, this is going to sound crazy in a couple of different ways, yes we found hundreds of high level documents secret classified documents on her server but you know we're not gonna prosecute her I know this is gonna sound weird somebody made a hilarious video out of it they put it to music it was weird at the beginning because a lot of people myself included saw him firing Comey I'm like whoa you're gonna fire

the head of the FBI because he doesn't like you like that's crazy That's crazy and Call me some pieces shit But because I got that but what I was gonna say is because of that happening It caused so many people to start going what is the FBI done? Like what are they doing and then you start reading stories and you start Understanding the history of it and you're like, oh, what? What have they?

What did they do? What have they been involved in? I know what, I know what. Good things, lot of good things. There's a few, but like whenever, with any kind of large organization, there's a lot of competitive people trying to rise to the top, you're gonna get unscrupulous fellas.

Sociopaths. Sociopaths. Right to the top. Yeah, and they're gonna do some things. And if they're in high positions of power and they can manipulate everyone around them to go with it, that's what you get. You get in every human situation where people are in control. You get January 6th. That's what you get.

You get Russiagate. I know that the FBI lied to the FISA court 17 times so they could get a tap on Donald Trump's phones. That happened. They lied to the FISA court 17 times. Nobody talks about a tap on brock on Donald Trump's phones that happened they lied to the FISA court 17 times nobody talks about that nobody pays a price for that They did it to the goddamn. You know, you know, I'm sure you saw the video of when Chuck Schumer was on with Rachel Maddow and he says well talking about Trump Yeah that he's being really dumb to criticize the intelligence community, meaning the CIA and the FBI, and Rachel Meadows says, why?

And he says, because they've got six ways this Sunday to mess with you back. So what he really was saying there, that that was the leading Democrat in the Senate, the leader of the party, he was telling people into a camera that the president, that the CIA and the FBI doesn't work for the president, that he has to worry about them. And if they doesn't work for the president, that he has to worry about them.

And if they don't work for the president, who the fuck do they work for, Joe? Right. Exactly. And of course Rachel Mao never asked that question. She's never gonna do that because, you know, she's a lapdog of the military industrial complex, Wall Street, Big Pharma, all of them. They're all the same. It's a natural thing that takes place when any organization gets extreme power. And that was supposed to be mitigated, right? And this is like the problem that Kennedy had with secret societies.

This is the problem that Kennedy had with the CIA and what Kennedy had with the NSA. When you ever get people that are above everything, like this concept of the deep state, you put your tinfoil hat on when you just say the word deep state. Everybody who is not paying attention, people that are just everything. Like this concept of the deep state, you put your tinfoil hat on when you just say the word, deep state. Everybody who is not paying attention, people that are just reading mainstream news, you say deep state, they go, oh God, he's a QAnon guy. I gotta get out of here. The deep state's real.

And it's- 100%. It's real, it's the intelligence community. And Chuck Schumer said they don't work for the president. Well, what? Yeah, they don't. And they don't. They don't. And so they, I mean, they would even brag about it when Trump first became president.

They would go on, Comey and other people would go on interviews and they would say, you know, Mr. President, we're going to be here a lot. We were here before you. We're going to be here after you. Yeah. So they don't give a shit about the president. I mean, they're just saying it out loud. They would say it out loud.

And so, yeah, so people are conditioned. But isn't that just what happens when you have competitive human beings? locked into these Organizations that have extreme power. It's just you you're always going to have that with human beings These are like human behavior patterns. Yeah that they always follow It's that's like our country is ending the way all empires end we overextend ourselves militarily Which is brings me to but what is that you're smoking? It's a cigar.

Oh really? When I don't want a full cigar, I smoke one of these little tiny Monte Cristo's. It's a little baby cigar. You want a cigar? I'll smoke a real one with you. No, I did that once, and it made, because I used to smoke cigarettes,

and I'm like, oh, everybody started smoking cigars. At one time when I first moved to Los Angeles, I was like, oh, I could smoke cigars. At one time when I first moved to Los Angeles, I was like, oh, I could smoke cigars. These are nice ones, because Ron White turned me onto these. It woke up the beast, and I started smoking cigarettes again. Yeah, no good.

So I can't do it. I even quit smoking pot recently, and last September. I heard. You did. Yeah, I watched that video. I thought it was really interesting. Oh, it makes people sad when I say it on stage.

Oh, that's silly. That's silly. People go, oh, it makes them upset. And I'm like, you know, it really woke me up to a lot of things. I don't know, I don't even, people go, why, why'd you quit? I don't even know why I quit.

Like, I feel like it was, I think it came from a higher power. Yeah, I know you were saying that too. I'm gonna get a cigar. While we're talking about this. You're gonna get a real cigar? A real cigar. Oh, okay. What made you go from the, I want a little one to a big one just now? I guess we're gonna talk about real cigar. You're gonna get a real cigar? A real cigar. Oh, okay. What made you go from the,

I want a little one to a big one just now. I think we're gonna talk about something serious. Oh, okay. God damn it, it smells, well the thing that, why I stopped is because it smells so fucking good. Yeah, but I see where your point is though, and I see what you're saying,

and there's a thing that can happen with marijuana or with anything that alters your state of consciousness, including coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, everything, is you're using that to sort of cope and exist. And you're not really being present. You're always being present under the influence of these things. And I've been guilty of that myself.

Sometimes you just wanna catch a buzz. Just don't wanna be here. I just wanna have a couple of whiskeys. I a buzz just want don't want to be here I just want to have a couple of whiskies. I want to be here. I want to be here, but just be you know, it's like sometimes the world's overwhelming and I Think you miss a lot if you live in that state you miss a lot like one of the things that happens with people that Have drug problems when they're young is they don't really mature properly. Because they spent 15, 16, 17, doing math, doing coke, partying.

And then by the time they get clean and sober, they're grown up babies. Yes, well they say that. They say that when your addiction starts, you get locked into that level of maturity that you're at until your addiction ends. Yes, and then you start growing, but now you're growing in a confused state.

And you've also got this anxiety that's sometimes crippling because you've wasted a giant chunk of your life and not made any progress. And here you are a beginner at 35 years old. And you're out here in the world trying to get a regular job at 35 and nobody wants to hire you because you've been in 15 rehabilitation centers and you got locked up for stealing hubcaps, catalytic converters

or whatever. It's like the thing that it does to you is it separates you from normal reality. And that could be a positive or a negative. If you have discipline and control and you're present and you really spend a lot of time thinking alone by yourself and meditating You can use things to alter your state of consciousness to achieve new thoughts you tap into new ideas Pot pot helped me a lot comedically it helped me. It's comedy steroids. Yeah, it was a big It was a big deal for me It took me from being, I was a very narrow

and rigid comedian, and then it opened me up and it made me a much better comedian is all I can say. And it worked for a long time. And it didn't take away my discipline. I still had lots of discipline comedically, and then when I started my podcast in 2008 or nine, and then my radio show, and then, so it never, I was always- You had your OG 2008 or nine and then my radio show and then, so it never, I was always.

You said you're OG, 2008 or nine? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there with me then, we were like at the same time. Yep. Wow. I started with Todd Glass. I started a show called Comedy and Everything Else and we would interview comedians and then, I did like 152 episodes of that and I just got tired of it

and then I started doing the Jimmy Dore Show because I got a radio show on KPFK in Los Angeles, which is a public radio show. So it was all politics and comedy, you know? And so I just shifted over to that. And it was a pretty popular, it still is, the pop, I mean, it would get like 50 to 60,000 downloads per episode, but it never sold tickets.

It's the weirdest thing. And when I went on YouTube, that was immediately, I started selling tickets, immediately. Immediately. And that's, as you know, that changes your whole life. Yeah, the YouTube thing's, that's a different world. Everybody has it. It's on every phone, it's on everybody.

If you have Apple TV, people, I watch YouTube more than I watch Netflix. Oh No doubt. Oh, no doubt. Yeah, because if I watch Netflix, it's like I want to watch Peaky Blinders I sit down and watch it, you know But if YouTube is like let me just fuck around see what's going on the world of ancient archaeology Let me watch a professional pool match. Let me see this new muscle car build I get lost for hours if my if I want to zone out if I'm exhausted And I just want to zone out. I've did everything that I have to do

I just want to just chill YouTube I go right to YouTube. Yeah, so hey Jimmy Dore. What's he talking about? Oh, I didn't know that and then I'm watching you yell at Cornell West or So other fucking person and I'm like, this is a mate Jimmy's a mad dog I love how bad I love having Kurt on the show because he gets upset You know and some play and then like I get to be amused by instead of me getting upset. Yes Oh, it's a perfect balance Kurt sitting there going that's that everything's a fucking sign up and everything your whole life everything in the world Okay, everything At the two and a half hour mark of the show everything

Everything and I just I, it gives me joy. So you were saying before I interrupted you that you think that it was a higher calling that like quitting pot. So I started, and when COVID happened, I started getting into Carl Jung and my unconscious and analyzing my dreams. And then I realized that the, that there is what Carl Jung calls God is a transpersonal self.

And he's the one who kind of figured out we have a collective unconscious. So there only is one conscious. I mean, you've done DMT and all that shit, so you get all that. But he was able to give himself like a mushroom trip when he was conscious without taking mushrooms, right? And he would call it active imagination. So he could go into his unconscious and confront all these things that,

like archetypes and God that lives in your unconscious. And he had to have a person that was there to make sure he didn't go crazy. And so he did this for like four years from like 1913 to 1917 and he wrote it down on a thing called the Red Book, which he would not allow to be published for 50 years after he died. Because he knew if people read it, it would discredit his work in psychology because it sounds crazy, all this shit.

It's like he had mushroom trips and he would write it down, right? But it was real. And so what he did, so during those four years, he then spent the rest of his life trying to explain to people what he had learned in those four years in ways that they could understand it. And so that's what the rest of his life was about. And they asked him, I remember they asked him,

do you believe in God? He says, I don't believe in God, I know. And I was like, that's badass, when you can say shit like that. And so anyway, I started to get into this. And so he figured out that there was, we have a collective unconscious because he would see these symbols in his dreams.

And he knew that they were like meaningful, but he didn't know what they meant. And then he started to study alchemy, which alchemy isn't what you think it is. Alchemy was about turning a psychological lead into psychological gold. And they were onto a lot of shit, and they had to keep it secret because of the church,

I guess, and so they had to speak in code kind of. And so he started to read alchemy, and he started to see these symbols that were in his dreams that they had to speak in code, kind of. And so he started to read alchemy and he started to see these symbols that were in his dreams that they had written about and they had already figured out what it meant. And he was like, well, how the fuck? Could I have a dream about something I didn't know? I never read this book before, I don't know what, how does,

and that's how he started to figure that out. And so that shit has happened to me. I'll see symbols in my dreams. This happened, so I was, this is gonna sound crazy. So I'm in the jungle, in a clearing, and this creature comes over to me. It looks like a big ape. His body's like a big gorilla,

but his head is like half of a lion, half human. And I'm like, what the fuck? And he puts his hand out and I'm like, oh, he's gonna crush me. But I put my hand in his hand and he took my hand gently and he walked me into the jungle. And I was like, what the? So I tell this to my, I have a Jungian analyst

who helps me decipher what my dreams mean. And he said, you know, that's an archetypal god and that was them telling you it's time for you to go into the jungle of your unconscious, but you'll be safe if you long. And I was like, oh, so then like a month later, I'm reading this book and there's that fucking thing, the ape with the lion.

I'm like, there's a, I'm like, what? That's the thing, I saw my dream. Like, how did that show up in my dream before I ever saw it before I knew I had the so I'm having the exact same is there a drawing of this book or is it just description in Young's book it's called a Mithraic God there that's what that's what I why can't I come to know I was like that's the fucking thing that was in my dream so there's also another thing called the old man So Carl Jung talks about this a lot like he would meet the old man in his dream, which was like It's a transpersonal self forgot yeah like that Wow

Yeah, so that's like archetypal character, yeah, I'm like how the fuck did that you had no idea? I had nothing showed up never seen it. Yeah Wow, so that's depicted all throughout history. It looks like I had no idea so how bizarre I had this big decision to make in my life and It was so what Carl Jung says is that you're unconscious Your trans personal self will create a scenario for you where there's no way out. No matter which way you go, you lose. So I was in one of those.

And I had a dream and I'm standing in line at a Starbucks at an airport and this guy guy taps me, and I see a shortcut. So whenever there's a shortcut, I'm gonna get, because it's a long line. And so I figured out I can go over here and I can sneak and get in and get my coffee first, you know? And so I'm like doing that, and all of a sudden this taps, and it's the old man with the gray hair

that Carl Jung had talked about. I didn't know it at the time. And I just thought, and this old man, he didn't say anything to me. It's like, he just grabs my hand and he points to the end of the long line. And I go, fuck you, old man. Get away from me.

What the fuck do you know? And, yeah, well now I, so I eventually did take the long line. In my, not in the dream, but in my life. And as soon as I did, every, so Carl Jung has another saying, he says, the biggest problems in your life can never be solved, they can only be outgrown.

And so I grew that, I was like, oh. So it happened. And so I've had these experiences of. So but you didn't finish that thought like What was wrong with the back of the line like what did you realize by going to the back of the line? It's like I don't want it's it's a little personal so about the situation in my waking life But I just knew that I had I what I had to then, right? Once I realized that that, oh, the old man, that was my transpersonal self telling me,

you gotta do this, and so it, I had an awakening, I outgrew this problem. Because it was like, you know, my Jungian analyst refers to it as, you're on a crucifix right now, and the only thing you can do is hold, maintain, don't make a decision, don't do one thing or the other, just hold and then something will appear.

And that's what appeared, it was in my dream, it coincided with the synchronicity in me reading a book about what I was supposed to do, I'm like, holy fuck. What do you think dreams are? So I think it's a mistake to dismiss them, I think dreams are the same consciousness that creates this waking life, creates your dream life, right?

And they're important. And if the more attention you pay to them, the more you'll get out of them and the more it'll rise up to meet you. And so I keep a dream journal. I write down every dream I have and you'll start to see patterns. I write down every dream I have, and you'll start to see patterns.

So I was reading this book called The Undiscovered Self by Carl Jung. And it's amazing how it fits what's happening right now today, right? And I tried to get to Bobby Kennedy to read it with me. But he says in there, you know how during COVID, how comedians flipped and all of a sudden you weren't allowed to question.

You know, I do that bit about that you quoted before and you're not allowed to question and think for yourself. And it used to be called reading. Yeah, it used to be called reading. Don't do your own research. It's just reading. So now they're shaming me for reading, right? So Carl Jung talks about that you have a need,

you have a need, you have a psychological need to have an experience of the divine and a deity and all that stuff. And if you don't have that, you're gonna create it. And so that's how those people, when I'm reading this book, I'm like, oh, that's what they did with COVID. They turned Fauci into a god. They turned science into a religion.

Right. That you can't question it, right? They're archetypes, right? So I'm like, what? So they just projected, so Carl Jung's all about projection, that we're projecting all the time, and that's how we get to know ourselves, right? So like when you fall in love with someone,

that's the big, his big one is that you have a feminine side inside of you, and it's called your anima, if you're a guy, and if you're a female, you have a male, and that's called your animus. And when you fall in love with someone, like oh if you're a guy. And if you're a female, you have a male and that's called your animus. And when you fall in love with someone like, oh, you know that thing, like, oh my God, I can't live without this person.

This is the thing that I've been looking for. That's when you project that part of yourself that's in your unconscious onto that person. And so that's a real religious experience because you're rejoining, religion meaning to rejoin. You're joining your conscious self with your unconscious self, and that's why it feels like you're being stimulated

from the inside, because you are. And you feel this oneness and this wholeness, and if I lose this person, I'll die. And so that is what most people, that's why guys in their, it happens to guys in their 50s, and that's why a lot of guys leave their wife and they go for, it's fucking amazing how that happens.

So that's all projection, and then eventually the projection falls off and then people get divorced. Right? Yeah. Interesting. So the religious experience is the combining of the two souls.

The combining of your conscious self and your unconscious self, right? In someone else. And yeah, so you unconscious self, right? In someone else. And yeah, so you can you experience it by projecting it on someone else. So and that's that's the phenomena and nobody knows that's the phenomena of love of romantic love of romantic love, right? And there's this whole book. There's this there's this old myth about Tristan and Isolde. I read this whole book by this Jungian scholar that explains what it's all about.

And you have to give up... By the way, I meet my anima in my dreams all the time and it's unbelievable. It's fucking unbelievable. So they have different people- How often do you remember your dreams? Every day. Really? Yeah.

And so to the point where if I'm gonna have a session with my union analysis I'll take a nap and I know I'll have a dream or two and I'll wake up and we talk about them I'm a good dreamer, especially when you quit smoking pot And is that when the dream started or did you know dreams while you were smoking pot? I had dreams while I was smoking pot, but they're just more intense then they get yeah after you quit smoking pot your dreams become vivid and intense and over the top almost, almost too much, you know? But now it's gone back to normal level.

So let me ask you this again. What do you think dreams are? I think dreams are a spiritual, whatever is in your spirit, whatever is, it's God, for lack of a better term, trying to communicate with you and talk to you through symbols. Wow.

That's what I think. Some, I mean, I'm not an expert on this stuff. I just been into it for like the last four years and I just know my experience. And so- It is very strange how vivid they are. And so if you don't have an experience of the divine, you are going to create it.

And that's what people did during COVID with science and Fauci and all that shit. They projected it onto that. And luckily enough, I've been having experiences of the divine through my dreams and my dream analysis. And then I also see it when you see synchronicities. And Carl Jung talked about synchronicities, which are coincidences that have meaning.

They're not just coincidences, right? So, and you know, and once you start to look for them, you see, you know, it's like when you buy a new car, you see that car everywhere. It's like once you start to look for synchronicities, they start to happen. So then it's like once you start to look for synchronicities, they start to happen. So then it's like I'm constantly in communication with God. That's how I, for lack of a better word, that's how I feel about it, right? And so everything that happens in my dreams and in my waking life

comes from the same consciousness. Carl Jung said that the future can be set up, is set up by your unconscious long in advance, which is why it can be guessed at by clairvoyance. So anyway, so this book, the red book, that he wrote down his experiences of those four years where he could give himself like a mushroom trip, he finally got published in 2010. And I'm not even able to read it. Like I just look at it, it's just like super confusing

and it looks like crazy talk. So what I do is I read books that he wrote up, after he had that experience, and I read books by other Jungian scholars explaining shit, because he's dense, man. He puts a lot of info in a little bit. Like, it took me a week just to, I was reading a book called The Mysterium Conunctctio that he wrote and it took me like a week just

this the opening paragraph just to keep going oh like what the fuck yeah I tried reading his book on flying saucers oh really yeah what is Carl Jung's book on flying saucers called but he had this concept about flying saucers he thinks they're they're constructs of the mind, but not necessarily that they're not real. Is it very strange, flying saucer? No, it's a modern myth. If you go to the back, like go back to where you, a modern myth of things seen in the sky.

Oh, really? Yeah. I haven't heard about this before. So, see if you could find just a synopsis. Just write, what did Carl Jung believe about UFOs? See what does it say here? Okay, it says, in the late 50s, the height of the popular fascination with UFOs, flying saucers is the great psychologist's brilliant prescient meditation on the phenomenon that

gripped the world. A self-confessed skeptic in such matters, Jung was nevertheless intrigued, not so much by the reality or unreality, but by their psychic aspect. He saw flying saucers as a modern myth in the making to be passed down the generations just as we have received such myths from our ancestors. In this wonderful and enlightening book, Young sees UFOs as visionary rumors, the center of a quasi-religious cult and carriers of our technological and salvationist fantasies. Forty years later, with entire religions based on the writings of science fiction authors, is remarkable to see just how right he has proven to be.

Wow. Yeah. I'll have to read that book. Yeah. I think the people, the best book to start with Carl Jung is memories dreams reflections, which is his biography and he wrote and That that he he you know, he lets you in a little because he was he was more than a psychologist he was a mystic right and

It's it's made all the difference in my life I was I was you know I considered myself a Sam Harris atheist, I used to call myself, you know, and that was mostly a reaction to being brought up Catholic. And so I was rejecting religion, but at the same time I was also rejecting spirituality and I didn't realize it, but now because of this experience, I realize,

oh no, that, you know, it's just terminology. God is real, there is the, you know, your ego doesn't control things, your ego needs, once you can make your ego subservient to the transpersonal self and your unconscious, that's the key to life, the realizing that you're just, you know, the way I describe it to people is that, you know, we're all part of consciousness

Consciousness is an ocean and then there's a huge way the part of the consciousness we see is a is the wave Right and all I can do is surf that wave. I can't create that wave. I can't control it I can't all I can do is try to surf it as best I can and by making yourself You know sub, your ego subservient and keeping your eye on the transpersonal center, this is what Carl Jung talks about, that's kind of the key. It's very, unless you experience it, it's hard to understand.

It's even hard for me to explain it. Yeah, but it does make sense. It's like trying to explain a DMT trip, I'm guessing. I've never done DMT. It does make sense trying to explain a DMT trip. I'm guessing I've never done DMT It does make sense that a person like that that is trying to understand how the human mind works Would have to take into account all sorts of bizarre things like UFO sightings psychic experiences dream states endogenous psychedelic experiences through like there's a bunch of different ways you can

Reliably achieve psychedelic states without any drugs. One of them that I've done recently even is holotropic breathing and if you do holotropic breathing you have what's like almost like a mushroom. What is that? It's Google holotropic breathing so you can get an I don't butcher the definition of it but also a lot of people do breathing exercises in sensory deprivation tanks, which provides very vivid psychedelic experiences with no drugs at all. I did my first breathing exercise ever this morning.

This is just talking about the study of it. There's a way to do, maybe I said the wrong word, so the psychic, breathing to induce psychedelic states, just write, just write breathing to induce psychedelic states. I might have used the wrong word. All right, here we go. Breathing their way to an altered state. Oh, look, it's in the, yes. Right there in fastball. breathing their way to an altered state. Oh, look it's in the... Yes, New York Times, January 10th, so you know it's a lie.

Okay, what does it say here? So, do they call it holotropic breathing, or am I using the wrong terminology? Okay, there it is. Vigorous modality known as holotropic breath work is offered at the end of an eight-month training, eight months before they get you the holotropic breathing to provide a lawful taste of the therapeutic potential and pitfalls of altered states of consciousness. So Dr. JJ Purcell, a naturopathic doctor from Oregon, was amongst the trainees and walked into the early October session skeptical that a couple hours of intense breathing could induce anything close to a psychedelic trip,

but she was stunned. The depth of what I experienced was so similar to psilocybin, Dr. Purcell Marvel, referring to the psychoactive compound in magic mushrooms. It was trippy. So you did that? Yeah, I've done that a bunch of times. And does it work? Yeah, it definitely works. Especially works in a tank or when you're lying in bed, when you're quiet. So you just did a certain kind of breathing for hours? Yeah. Google, like, what is the protocol for holotropic breathing?

There's just like a specific way you're supposed to do it. But I can achieve some reasonable form of a psychedelic state by just concentrating on breath. I have this thing that I do, and I do it when I can't sleep. My mind is racing, right? So I force my mind to concentrate on one thing, and that's in with the good, out with the bad. Those are the only words I allow in my head. So as I breathe in, I go in, I lose

track. I start thinking about, Oh, I forgot to call that guy back. I start thinking, but then I get back to it in with the good out with the bad in with the good out with the bad in long as I when I'm doing that, I'm only allowing those words in my head. The other ones are getting in there, but I'm pushing them out. Get out of the door. I'm the bouncer. And then eventually I can achieve this very strange state.

This very strange state that with your eyes closed, you start seeing patterns. You see this like weird sort of like matrix like for lack of a better term almost like a Geometric grid of the world and you just keep kind and usually I fall asleep when I'm doing that But I can stay awake and have it takes a while You might take 15 20 minutes of doing that but you get in there and I know that people that do Kundalini yoga I have a friend who did Kundalini Yoga and he said, and he has also done DMT, he said, it is the exact same place.

You can absolutely get there. You just have to be rigorous, you have to practice it for a long time, but they have a specific type of like nodding and bobbing they do with intense breath work that gets you to this endogenous dump of psychedelic chemicals. So one of the reasons why it's so insane that that sweeping 1970s Psychedelic Drug Act took place is not just that they used it to target civil rights leaders and anti-war movement people and the Black Panthers and anybody that was inconvenient, but also that it stopped us from being able to explore what these things are So the one of the terms that psychedelics use that people will they talk about psychedelics? It's one of the more lofty terms is entheogen and what entheogen means essentially

It's like this is something that connects you to God like what is the what is the term entheogen? What is an actual it was the literal translation of? entheogen but that is an actual, it was the literal translation of entheogen. But that this is what they think, here it is, a chemical substance typically of plant origins that is ingested to produce a non-ordinary state of consciousness for religious or spiritual purposes. I think that's what most religions are based on. I think they're based on either an understanding of how to achieve psychedelic states endogenously, or people coming into contact with psilocybin, amenita mascaria, there's a variety of different things that they probably came in contact with.

There's scholars out of Jerusalem now that believe that the interpretation from Moses in the burning bush, that that burning bush was probably the acacia tree, and the acacia tree is rich in DMT. Now, it just completely makes sense that burning a bush that is rich in DMT would connect Moses to God, and God would give Moses these commandments for how mankind should live. That completely makes sense. Well, it's probably a psychedelic experience, and there's probably a bunch of different ways to get them.

I think that's what monks are doing when they're spending the entire day isolated and meditating. I think they're achieving very, I think that's why they're willing to keep doing it. I think that's why they're willing to stay. Everybody's like, oh, those poor bastards, look at them, no pussy, dressed like a retard. Like, look at them, with their stupid fucking orange robe. But those people, I think, are connecting to something, some other state that is more exciting

than this one that we're kind of trapped in. Well, I've had the experience of, I've only done mild doses of mushrooms in my life, maybe five or six times. And the last time I did it, I remember when I would close my eyes, it would seem more real than when I opened my eyes, it was like, oh, everything seemed flat and uninteresting.

And when I closed my eyes, I was like, this is the real thing. I'd like to stay here longer. So it's gotta be, what you said, that's why people are willing to sit in a cave and meditate every day, because it's more real. It's a more, it's a more like a rich experience. I think we operate under the biological dimension.

That's where our thing moves around, under the biological dimension. And all of our senses are tuned into the biological dimension, because all of our senses are tuned into the biological dimension because it involves injury and death and illness and crime and injustice and all these different things that can get you all ramped up in the biological dimension. But we're also connected to something else.

You could define that thing. You can call it things. You can call it heaven, the well of souls. You could call it a bunch of different things. I think calling it anything is a problem because we don't know what the fuck it is but whatever it is I think there's a bunch of different ones and McTarrance we kind of described it as a mandala like that there's like a mandala of different psychedelic experiences that the human body and the human mind is capable of experiencing. And that there's all sorts

of different ones, you're going to a different neighborhood, and that these chemical gateways that get you into these states, that's what these psychedelic drugs are. We're looking at it like, oh he's just escaping reality. I think they're chemical gateways. I think they're chemical gateways into other dimensions, into some other realm that you cannot get there with this thing that's worried about, oh, I'm getting a belly. It's because your ego.

Yeah, ego, and just the reality of having to pay your bills and keep the lights on. There's just too much weird shit here that distracts you. Joe Biden's fine. He's the best version of Joe Biden ever seen. You're driving to work on it. I'm in the upside down world. This is like fucking stranger things. Like, what is happening here? This is crazy. You're losing your fucking mind. And that all this does, all this chaos, this is like if the devil and God were real, this is the chaos. This is hell. The hell is this

confusion and this constant lack of peace No one's there everyone's filled with anxiety. Well jesus said there's a quote That the kingdom of my father is laid upon the earth, but the eyes of men don't see it so Yeah, so we're creating our own hell right and It's I think overification with the ego mind, which is different than, you got a big ego, that's different. The ego mind is like what you're conscious of,

your idea of who you are. And then the things that you don't like, according to Jung, you split them off and you put them into your unconscious. So when people who hate Trump, like when you see people who have Trump Derangement Syndrome, that's because they're projecting that part of themselves

that is like Trump onto him, and so then they can hate that. And that when you have a big reaction to something external, whether it's you love something intensely, or you hate something intensely, that tells you it's about you. That's about, and so, like I never hated Trump, I hated the system that got us Trump. So I tried to keep my focus on,

you know, it was because Barack Obama bailed out the banks and kicked 5.1 million families out of their homes and then went on to give us a right-wing fucking healthcare plan. It was a giveaway to Big Pharma and insurance company, and he didn't really help. That's what laid the groundwork for people to go for someone like Trump.

That always does. So that's what I saw groundwork for people to go for someone like Trump, that always does. So that's what I saw. So when people hate, the people who hate Trump the most are people who have split off that part of themselves that is Trump and put it in their unconscious and then they're experiencing themselves as they project it onto him. You know those people.

I know a lot of those people. You know, like Rob Reiner, you know, people you know a lot of those you know like like like Rob Rob Reiner You know like Bill Maher like There's there's lots of those people everywhere And they you know and then they just tell these fantasies about him. He's never gonna leave. Oh Robert De Niro Yeah, now Kurt Kurt's convinced that Robert De Niro is on some kind of Epstein list or some kind of thing like that And then he's afraid that when if Trump does get power he's gonna expose him and he is actually gonna come at him

That's a course Kurt thinks that Kurt thinks that about every fucking thing that happens in the world I think that I think Robert Zaniero's just got Trump derangement syndrome I think he's old too. There's a thing about old men and he's complete. They want to yell at everybody Yeah, and he's completely did you see when he went and gave that speech outside of the truck that was bizarre That was a good idea and then he starts yelling at regular people. He's a fuck you. You're a gangster. Fuck. Don't fuck you Like it's crazy that that's the guy from taxi driver Yeah, you have you know, also, I think I think those guys have no friends

I think the only friends they have are hollywood phonies I think those guys have no friends. I think the only friends they have are Hollywood phonies And so you're in this weird world where everybody you talk to is a phony and you become a phony and everyone's a phony and your Grasp on reality is very slippery and your eyes are going right so your vision of the world your actual vision the world your ability To read a phone you ever see old people's text messages the fucking text on their phone is like as big as my hand Yeah, it's crazy And so your vision of the world is blurring literally and figuratively and then you're getting old and when old people are tired and cranky They just want everyone to listen to them and they don't have time to have a calm conversation and you state out your opinion I'll state my opinion. Let's see where we have common ground

Get off my lawn and that's what he's doing. That's what he's doing He's being this old grumpy man that is so lost that he thinks it's a good idea to stand in front of a bunch of people on the street and give a speech on camera about how bad Donald Trump is. With all the shit that's going on in the world. That I know. All the craziness of the world. Right now the guy you're voting for, a lot of people consider, is funding funding a genocide Right, so you don't think that's horrible you look what's good again

If he knew what was happening in Ukraine people or people being slaughtered in Ukraine for what and we just saw her one other Ten years of that. Yeah signed on for another ten years worth what eight hundred billion dollars. So this is all Money funneling operation. That's what that's what Afghanistan was and as Julian Assange taught us that these wars aren't meant to be won they're meant to be ongoing. They had a peace agreement, you know that, they had a peace agreement almost immediately after the invasion that Russia invaded. They had a peace agreement and that Ukraine agreed to it, Zelensky agreed to it and they flew Boris Johnson out there and said

don't fuck you can't do this or we're gonna kill you. And so that's why he can't do it. And so that's why this war is ongoing, and they have to rip people off corners and put them in vans to go fight in this fucking war. The average age of the Ukraine military is over 40 years old. Have you seen the videos of guys getting kidnapped? Yes, I can't even watch it. Guys with their families, they just grab a guy.

They just grab him. Grab him and people are screaming, they're throwing him in a van. You're gonna go fight in a war. I think you lost the war when we already did. So they did, and then of course nobody knows how this war started. You've had Dave Smith on, he explained it.

You know, nobody still to this day knows about the Maidan coup, that the United States got in bed with right wing Nazis in Ukraine to overthrow a democratically elected government, and then they started bombing the people in the east of Ukraine, called the Donbass, and they wouldn't stop. They had two peace agreements called the Minsk Accords. Guess who violated them?

Ukraine. It wasn't that. And so, you know, I've heard people say that. And then of course it was the expansion of NATO, right? The threat of putting NATO on the border of Russia, which everybody from Kissinger to Chomsky and everybody in between said That's a mistake. Don't do that. That's of course what they're doing And so there's no what's the point of NATO anymore and then this whole idea they're doing the domino theory again

Oh, well, if he if we allow him to do this to Ukraine, he's gonna go to Poland next And it's the same fucking shit. They said all the time. It's the domino theory and Again, the world's terrorists are the United States. Look what we did to Iraq, look what we did to Libya. Libya, the most successful country in all of Africa. The guy created the eighth wonder of the world with the way how he delivered water and turned deserts into farmland.

And everybody had a house and everybody had education and healthcare, and we turned it into a failed state run by terrorists with open slave markets. Who did that? Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did that. And they'll never have to pay a price for that. Barack Obama, the most he'll do is go, that was a mistake. Why did they get rid of Gaddafi? Because he was going to start a currency of Africa just for,

that was going to compete with the US dollar and the euro. And they can't have that because the way the United States controls the world is because the United States dollar is the reserve currency and the euro, and they can't have that. Because the way the United States controls the world is because the United States dollar is the reserve currency of the world, so that's why they can put sanctions on all these countries. And so what they're doing, which they shouldn't do, they're weaponizing the US dollar. And so, like when countries want to trade with each other,

they have to go take their currency, change it into US dollars so they can trade. And a lot of it was based on the petrodollar, which by the way, Saudi Arabia Arabia just quit they didn't renew it I don't know if you heard about that So and all of a sudden CBS News is starting to do news stories about how Saudi Arabia was involved in 9-eleven all of a sudden 24 years later all of a sudden. Oh, you know what turns out to some And they're like you mean two weeks after they decided to not renew the fucking metro dollar now

CBS News is allowed to talk about that and investigate it which when I talked about it got demonetized, but anyway So they so that's why because Kaddafi was doing that He was going to set up a currency for all of Africa and it was going to be based on it They have a gold standard and so they're like, no you're not, you're not fucking doing that, and they made up a bullshit thing like, we gotta save the people, whatever, you guys, they don't give a fuck

about the people in America. They got veterans and everybody else living under every goddamn bridge in this country, you think if they gave a shit about those people, don't you think they'd start helping the people right outside the front door? Instead of Instead of no we gotta go help people in Libya and we gotta help people it's about helping people in Ukraine and it's about helping people in Taiwan and it's about no this is all about an upward

transfer of money this is about Balkanizing countries and turning and turning it over to Black Rock and Vanguard that's what this is about. Yeah. And we'll be right back. That's a good rant. That's a solid rant. Biden is sending 61 billion to Ukraine. Much of it will pass through the U.S. economy first. You mean in weapons manufacturing and things like that. By the way, there's no oversight. Isn't it better to just say the U.S. economy? Why do you have to like look at the bad side of things? But this is how they sell it to us. Like, no, no, we're actually investing in our own country. If you're actually investing in our own country.

If you want to invest in our own country, why wouldn't you build fucking bullet trains? Why wouldn't you do that? Why wouldn't you build affordable housing for people? Because people can't afford, now, you know, the new generation can't afford fucking houses. Why wouldn't you do things for people? Why wouldn't you give people healthcare

that doesn't bankrupt them, or an education that doesn't bankrupt them? We're ending- Excuse me, I don't think you've read that our military aid to Ukraine is revitalizing manufacturing communities across the United States. The most inefficient way to stimulate economy is military spending. Now I've known that for a long time. It's the lowest return on your dollar.

It is a crazy spin. Because yes, that's how they're doing it. Now that's how they're doing it. Now that's how they're doing it. Well, you saw Lindsay Graham, I don't know if you saw this. He said that there's $15 trillion in natural, in rare earth minerals in Ukraine. And if we don't get it, China's gonna get it, and Russia's gonna get it.

So now three years into this war, you're telling me it's about, why can't we just do regular economic shit and try to out-compete people? Because that's all this is. These are economic wars that they turn into, Fred Hampton said that politics is war without violence. War is politics with violence.

And so that's what these wars are. None of them are real. They're not what you think they're for. They're all made up up and we keep falling. I can't believe people still fall. For the Ukraine war, I couldn't- Well, they went into that so quick, they got rid of the- Well, Russiagate set it up.

Yeah. When I was at the Young Turks, I would tell those people, those knuckleheads at the Young Turks, when they were Russiagating, I'd go, you know they're going to use this for a war. And that's exactly what they had, Oh, they knew they were doing that They knew that they were doing they were getting people mentally ready for a war with Russia and by this right now It's a proxy war with Russia That's what this is and and of course they did it and of course if you say something they call you a Putin puppet Just like you were a

Nassad toady if you if you said something the truth about Syria like Tulsi Gabbard was saying. Or if you said the truth, remember, I mean if you said there weren't weapons of mass destruction you were called a traitor. It's the fucking never end. It's the same playbook and people fall for it every time and it's because we are the most propagandized country in the world.

You think China is, you know when people in China watch the news they know it's propaganda. In the old Soviet Union people knew that was propaganda. The difference between that and now is people in America, they think they're watching the news when they turn on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and isn't it weird? It doesn't, it never clicks to anybody that when Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity are telling you the same thing about Ukraine, doesn't that, something will go off. My Spidey sense is like, oh, this is fucking bullshit. Yes it is, yes, when they're telling you the same thing

about COVID or vaccines or lockdown, doesn't your Spidey senses go up that this has gotta be bullshit? So they all agree, again, just like the Republicans and Democrats, they all agree on the worst of things, right? They all agree on war, they all agree on screwing workers, they all agree on keeping us having the most expensive healthcare in the world, they all agree on screwing workers, they all agree on keeping us having the most expensive healthcare in the world,

they all agree on not doing anything to fix homelessness and not investing in our own infrastructure. But they, so they agree on all the worst things. It's like having two divorced parents, but they both agree on sending you to military school. Mm. Yeah, it's a conundrum for sure, but don't you think that more people are aware that it's bullshit than ever before?

I hope so. I think COVID woke up a lot of people. I think it did too, and I think shows like yours and these shows that are online now that aren't beholden to a corporation, that are independent shows that can actually connect the dots with knowledgeable people that actually understand the history behind everything. It's just a different world now. You know even with YouTube, Joe, it's amazing how many people told the company line. They told the company around Ukraine War. They told the establishment line

around COVID and vaccines and shamed anybody for it. It was just amazing. I'm like what the fuck is going on? So there's like there's only maybe a couple of places that you can get reliable news even in independent news right? Yeah. The gray zone had to debunk they debunk everything and the gray zone yeah you've heard this max blumenthal and erin mate okay yeah and they he um uh they helped debunk uh russia gate they helped debunk Russiagate, they helped debunk the Syria gas attacks. Aaron Maté did extensive work on that. I was first.

But I'm a dumb guy. I have to take credit where I can. But I again- How did you debunk that? I knew because Robert Fisk had done reporting on the ground. He was one of the most decorated war reporters in Europe. And it didn't make any sense on its face that Assad, who was winning the war at the time, would do the

one thing Barack Obama said if he crossed that red line and used chemical weapons. He would then go do it, and they only killed like 50 people at a time with a chemical weapon, so why the fuck would he do that? Of course that was a false flag done by, and then the OPCW, whistleblower, so the OPCW which is the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons, right, and so they used to, used to be considered, you know, nonpartisan and non-captured, and they would go in and they would, if there was a chemical weapon used, they would go in and they would give, do a report.

Well, they, of course they got captured, right, by NATO and the billionaire class, and so they go in, they do their report, and they're like, oh yeah, it was Assad, he did it. But then whistleblowers came out and said, no, that's not what happened. They suppressed the engineer's report, they suppressed this report, these canisters were laid there,

this wasn't dropped from a helicopter. So it was all bullshit, right? So of course Assad didn't do that, right? And so I was onto that first, and then Aaron Maté came back and he did meticulous reporting on it, he's written at least 10 articles on it, which nobody will ever debunk,

nobody, because they can't, right? And he, so anyway, so, and Russiagate, I knew immediately Russiagate was bullshit because I brought on Bill Binney, who was the NSA's number one code breaker for decades and decades, and he came on and he explained to me that they didn't hack into that DNC server that was downloaded locally, right?

And now we know that, how much shit, they wrote a smear piece about me in the Washington Post because I was asking logical questions about what happened with Seth Rich. Hey, where was he from the time he left the bar to the time he got home? It's like a flip. You're not allowed to ask ethical questions about a guy that WikiLeaks said leaked them information that DNC was conspiring to keep Bernie Sanders out of the primary. You're not allowed to.

I remember, I was, so they wrote a sm were, Jeff Bezos hired a guy at the Washington Post to smear me over that, right? And they did. I don't know if Jeff personally was involved. And, well- Do you think Jeff's busy? I mean, it was his paper, but I mean, how much time do you think he spent at his paper? Realistically. But why do you think he bought that paper? You think he bought that paper

because he wants to inform people about what the billionaire class is up to, Joe? It's super profitable. It's not. It's not. It makes billions of dollars a year. No, in fact. No, it does really well.

It only tells the truth. In fact, the head of the Washington Post went into the newsroom just like a month ago, and I don't know how it got leaked out that he said, hey, nobody's reading your shit anymore. People are done with the corporate news, hopefully. And they're fine. Well, that's why you saw that,

oh, I can't think of her name, that idiot from the Washington Post who covers social media. She's the- Taylor Lorenz. Yeah, the 40-year-old teenager. And she did a TikTok about how, I don't know, people, you don't know what the, people don't understand what the country's gonna look like

without these corporate journalists. Because they just fired like 10,000 of them. And I go, I know what the country's gonna look like. I'm gonna wake up every morning and an animated bluebird is gonna land on my shoulder and we're all gonna break out in song, okay? Yeah, because corporate news is fucking nothing but bullshit propaganda we've known this forever right and if you keep falling for it I think people don't think that

independent news can replace it but I'm 100% think it can and I think there it has a more of a likelihood of doing that because if you can get independent journalists that now they can develop substacks and podcasts and they can go and do things on their own and they get funded They they don't need anyone else anymore. So then they can tell the truth, right? So they're not beholden to some enormous corporation if a podcast had a building like CNN's building in Atlanta I'd start getting nervous. I'd be like hey, how much overhead is this? Yeah, how are you guys paying the bills? You got so many people working here and your show sucks.

You have nobody watching and there's so many people. This is a fucking disaster. Like, what are you guys doing? They just closed their Atlanta building. Did they? Yeah, yeah, of course they did. How would they have another building open? How do they have any buildings open?

Imagine a show that gets a podcast that gets that few views but has who knows how many hundreds of employees giant buildings They're on an airport so you get zero views. Nobody gives a fuck I mean, it's a crazy business model and you look and Don Lemon started his own YouTube channel and it's wonderful. Nobody's watching It's wonderful. It's Joe Scarborough talking so I got invited on that show, and I turned it down a few times,

and my assistant is like, hey look, they really want you to do this show. And so I was talking to my friend Jackson Hinkle, and I said, yeah, Don Lemon keeps inviting me on the show. He goes, you gotta go! And I'm like, it would just be me trying to insult him. You know, it would just be me saying how shitty he is, and how he's the, you know,

cause I had just gotten done doing a rant about Chris Cuomo talking about ivermectin, but still lying about it. And he goes, yeah, that would be fun to watch you do that. And I go, okay, I'll do it. So I told my assistant, I go, tell him I'll do the show. So we set it up, and I go, just me, I go, I'm not going on with anyone else. I'm not having a debate with another asshole and Don Lemon.

I go, I'll just go on with Don Lemon, and they agreed to it. And so the morning we were supposed to do the show, and our show, just me, they canceled. Really? Yes. Interesting. Yeah.

And so, and I, maybe cause something, cause Don Lemon's like, oh, who am I interviewing today? And then he Googled me. He's like, no, we're not. No, we're not. And that was right when I did a video, you know, calling out Chris Cuomo for being a lying piece of shit that went kind of viral.

And so. All right, so Chris Cuomo probably called up. They probably talked. They're probably homies. He probably saw that video. Yeah. He probably went to, you know, put in Jimmy Dore on Twitter and that comes up.

Well, he should be, if he wants to become successful, being an independent person, he's gonna have to engage in conversations with people he disagrees with. He still calls the truth about COVID conspiracy theories. Yeah he's a fool. He's a fool. He's a genuine fool. He's one of those guys Ivermectin's horse-paced, the lab theories, racist against Chinese people. So not only that, he had a whole episode with Sanjay Gupta after Sanjay Gupta came on here. Admitted that they were lying about ivermectin and then they tried to pretend that they weren't. But it is horse medicine. It was used for human beings for 12 fucking years.

Before they ever used it for veteran. Before they ever used it for veteran medicine. Don Lemon, you fucking moron it's just so the the the the idea that these talking heads who they had on CNN should be some sort of a moral compass and An ethical compass for the rest of us is so fucking stupid and so insulting Especially when you see these people on their own So when you see these people on your own their own like when you see Dave Smith Debating Chris Cuomo and just fucking nuking him and then you see Don Lemon doing his show and you go

Okay, this is who you guys are for real for yeah. This is the real thrill when you see fucking Brian Stelter doing that W EF Hiking up his skirt for those lizard people the whole thing is like this is who you really were This is just as you guys in you surviving on your own in this independent platform, good luck because this platform is transparent. They're gonna see you for who you are. No producers, no fucking scripts you're gonna read off of. That shit won't even work in this realm. It doesn't work. So that's why I have this dream to produce a show that would compete with Bill Maher.

Because I don't know if you've ever seen, I do live shows, right, with a panel, and a live audience, right? So it's kind of like Bill Maher, but it's funny and it's accurate. You know, so it's the, and so that's why, so I've been pitching it to Rumble. You know what Rumble is, right?

Sure. And so thank God for Rumble, because I don't have to ever worry about being censored. Right, Rumble's great. They've been out in front on the free, like we're not going to censor you whatever the fuck you want. That's up to you and your audience. And I'm like, oh my God.

And so I travel around the country and nobody's fucking heard of Rumble. More people have now than ever before. People are starting. And so I tried to talk them in, they're like, hey, why don't you finance the show in a sound stage for me and we could compete with Bill Maher. And instead of real time, we'll call it rumble time and we'll put a billboard up in Times Square and right across the street

from where Bill does his fucking show. And this is, you know, to be like a money. It's a good idea. And they were on board, but I guess there was too much money. I don't know how much money they have. It wasn't that much. It's like, I got it down to like 90,000 an episode for like a real thing that would look exactly as good

as Bill Maher, which you know that costs a couple million dollars an episode, right? And would you do it in front of an audience? Yes, of course, I've got the studio. Like your show, like your stand-up shows. Yeah, so I do those, I travel with that show, I do a video show hooked up to my computer, and it's kind of a mixture of The Daily Show and Bill Maher's show, I have a panel, and we to my computer. And it's kind of a mixture of The Daily Show

and Bill Maher's show. I have a panel I do. And we have the comedy and it's- I've seen it, it's very funny. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one thing about the Rachel Maddow lying 35 times. Yeah, I love that, man.

Yeah. Yeah. So I do that and I tour. I'm gonna, the next time I'm doing it is in Chicago in August, right before the convention. I got press credentials. Oh my God. I can't, I shouldn't say anything. Yeah, we probably shouldn't have told anybody. I shouldn't have said anything. Well, you're a real journalist. You should get press credentials.

I was there in 2016, of course, they didn't have any conventions in 2020 because of COVID, right? So, but 2016 I went to the Republican and the Democrat and that's where I met Alex Jones. Ah! That's hilarious, that video's hilarious. It's hilarious in retrospect. It was, I guess, at the time too, but yeah, it's nice that we've made up and... Yeah, the Alex Jones thing is strange.

It's amazing how right he is about shit. He's right about so many things. He's way more accurate than corporate news, that's for sure. But he got that one thing wrong. The one thing wrong? Well, he's got another thing wrong, but that one thing was a big one. And they set him up. And that one thing changed. Maybe they did. I mean, it could have been that they did.

I do think that that is something that does happen. One of the things when something happens is people. And then I don't know if it's human beings or if it's groups, if it's foreign groups, they will concoct a fake narrative and try to get people to share it. Like they'll try to fool people into sharing a fake version of some real thing that happened. And I think they do that to undermine people that are conspiracy theorists that are occasionally correct. So if you can get a conspiracy theorist who's occasionally correct and get them a bunch of bad information, foolish information, and convince them on

a website, polls, get a bunch of people involved that also believe it. You know, I think that's where Flat Earth got started. And you get all these people sharing things and believing things. And then if this person, if you could take the bait, and they'll go, this is what we're hearing. We're hearing that this is a false flag. And then next thing you know, we got them. We got them.

And if you're a guy like Alex Jones, who at the time was legitimately experiencing what you would call like a psychotic break, he was breaking. The guy was drinking like crazy. And when you're uncovering real conspiracies all day long, a psychotic break. He was breaking. You know, the guy was drinking like crazy and, you know, when you're uncovering real conspiracies all day long, every day, which is what he does. Nothing seems crazy. Everything seems off the wall. The whole fucking world seems topsy turvy. Nothing makes sense. He fucked up. But he's right. So often, if you look at what

CNN is fucked up on, how come they're not in trouble for the weapons of mass destruction which which how come that in trouble for Russiagate how the other couple not in trouble for so many which fuck up do you think is bigger the one that Hillary and Barack Obama did in Libya yeah or Alex Jones yeah what do you think is bigger and worse yeah one of them seems bigger yeah but it's also it's like the news the news what when they were lying about certain things, how much damage did they do? Well, I've always said this, that imagine if the news people were skeptical about the

vaccine, the news people were skeptical about not being able to use off-label medications at a doctor's discretion, especially ones that have been actually shown to stop viral replication in vitro. doctors discretion, especially ones that have been actually shown to stop viral replication in vitro. And there's a history of success in using these things in other countries, like Urdu Pradesh, in India. There's a bunch of different things that were going on simultaneously, and yet they're still being stopped.

Wouldn't the real news, the real news, imagine if the real news is like, hold on, it seems like there's special interests involved here, and there's a financial incentive to push this one thing, which is what they have to do in order to get the Emergency Use Authorization Act. There can't be any valid pharmaceutical drugs that are available currently that we could prescribe. That's the only way you can get some new thing to pass through. Imagine if that was the news and podcasters were like, it's safe and effective. If you get it, you won't get sick. If you get it, you won't get sick.

If you get it, you won't share it to anybody else. The virus stops with you. And then there are no, there's none of all these, this talk about side effects. It's not true. It's not true. I've never seen a single person that had a bad reaction to this new experimental gene therapy. Imagine if it was the podcasters. We would all be in the news.

We would all be getting sued. We would all, they would use it to shut us down. That would be the misinformation that they would feed us to get us to say stupid shit, so that we would endanger people's lives and ruin people's health, and they would shut us down. 100%. And I just, how are they not suspect of an industry

that has immunity from lawsuits if their product harms people? Like, in the history of the humanity, that's the only one. And you go, well, why did they pass a law that, well, because they're safe. Well, that doesn't make any sense. That's not true. If they were safe, you wouldn't need to fucking pass that law

that gave immunity from lawsuits. Literally when they were trying to figure out why they needed this and they were saying why don't you make vaccines safe, the literal explanation was it is impossible to make them entirely safe. So what you're saying is they're not entirely safe? You're going to injure some people. Almost all medications. Of course. If you give them to enough people, you're going to have side effects. And then when you have a new one, and then when you understand how they're allowed to do studies and how they're allowed to throw out all the studies

that show it does harm or it doesn't work or it's not effective, and then you fucking finagle the numbers in a way that you can push it, I think we're see a real improvement here. Okay run with it go and then the money starts rolling it But of course and that's how they captured the news because Bill Clinton let them in 1997 I think they passed a law that let big pharma now most of the funding for news comes from brought to you by Right, and so of course they get to so they're they're not so what I say is that when you see Boeing Advertising on Meet the Press or Pfizer advertising on CNN. They're not funding the news organizations Investigation they're funding their non investigation, right? They're like, but this is money so you don't fucking investigate us That's exactly and the people who do like my friend Anita Krishna and in Canada age she worked for a

who do, like my friend Anita Krishna in Canada, she worked for a, I forget the name of the global news, or some big news network in Canada, and so she started to ask just regular questions. And she got fired, and she videotaped her session where they fire her, you know, like they ask, hey, why are you, she's like, isn't that what we're supposed to be doing? We're a news organization. Aren't we supposed to be asking the questions

why there's all these miscarriages that are happening at the hot aren't we supposed to be asking about the explosion of care aren't we supposed to be asking these questions isn't that what we do as a news organization and she got fired for that of course yeah and so here's a new here's the latest thing but don't you think that this craziness is good for us oh yeah well yeah, well, I wouldn't have a show if CNN and MSNBC. Not just us, but us as a population, because it's so stupid that we get through it and then more people wake up.

I hope so. Because I think it's the only way we are going to really know who's pulling the strings. I keep bumping into, you know, I go to comedy clubs. You live in LA. That's the problem. You've got to get out. Texas is a different world.

Is it really? A hundred percent. Wait till you come to the show tonight. The comedy community here? Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. You just wait, sir. Really?

Yeah, you're in for a time of your life tonight. Yeah, it's wild out here. All right. It's wild. It's a different world. I did a set, like I said, I did a set in Hollywood just last week and the comedian after me called me an anti-vaxxer. I was like, you're fucking kidding me. It's so dumb.

It's so dumb. You're kidding. What does that even mean? It's such a dumb. I took the fucking vax, asshole. It's so dumb. Anyway, but there's this new thing, Joe, so I found out.

So when I quit smoking pot, I couldn't sleep, and I thought I was gonna die. But for some reason, I didn't go back, because if you don't get sleep, it's the worst thing in the world. I would sleep for two hours, I would fall asleep and wake up. And I was like, and so,

I was told about this thing called HGB. H-C-G? No, H-G-B, I guess it came to America in the 90s. I just did a video about it. And it's the ultimate sleep medicine. So the problem with the sleep medicines now is that they don't give you restorative sleep. They just kind of knock you out like an anesthetic, right?

So when you wake up, you're still fucking groggy and tired and you don't have all the shit that sleep does for you. Right? That's the problem. But this wasn't patented and it was easily made. You can compound it easily in compounding pharmacies and bodybuilders used to use it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they said it was a date rape drug.

Yeah, GHB. GHB, that's it. They used it as treatment for narcolepsy. Yeah, so that's the only thing it's approved for now. You have to, only certain doctors can prescribe it. So what they did, this is what they did. So not only did it help you with sleep, restorative sleep, but it helped you with human growth hormone

as you got older, it helped you with bone. It's almost like a miracle drug, kind of like ivermectin, right? And it's the same thing. In fact, I just read this. It's very potent, right? If you take too much of it, you get bonked out, right? I guess, hey, if you drink a keg of whiskey, it'll do the same thing. In fact, I just read this- It's very potent, right? If you take too much of it, you're getting bonked out, right? I guess. Hey, if you drink a keg of whiskey, it'll do the same thing. I would say take

the right dose. Yeah, I think- People said that to me. They go, you know, if you take an overdose of it, it's bad. Well, then I would not take an overdose. I think people drugged women with this before. Yeah, it's a date-rape drug. This is the propaganda, Joe. So I just read this article. There's this guy called the Midwestern Doctor. He's got this sub stack. He's fucking awesome.

Pierre Cori tweets him out all the time. And I don't know if it's a guy or a girl, actually. It's just called the Midwestern Doctor. And he did deep dive into GHB, that stuff. And that's how I know all about it. And they did the same thing. In fact, in one of the subtitles of his article, it says they did the same thing,

what they did to ivermectin, they did to this. And so they all got together and said, hey, this is a rape drug. Even though Rohypnol was the rape drug, it wasn't the GHB. Yeah, so the Rufy. And guess which one got banned? This one, because it actually works.

So you can get GHB? You can still get the Rufys because the people have made it lobbied the government To not get it made illegal isn't that fucking ironic? Yes, Rufanoff for I was it who knows legitimate use, but that I don't know But that's what I read in that Midwestern doctors article, and he explains it all it's it is mind-blowing And so I was trying to get some of this right right? You can only get it underground, right? So there's certain doctors that make it in certain parts of the country,

and they give it to soldiers who have PTSD. And they do it, but if they get caught, they're in trouble, because they made it a schedule one drug. Wow. Yeah, cocaine schedule two, right? So it's even worse. And I've asked my doctor for it, like, I can't do that. I can't even tell you where to get it cuz I'll get in trouble And so I found a guy who said he could get it for me

But I hadn't put it I had to set up a proton mail then I had to get Bitcoin and I had to do this and by the time all that kind of came together. I my sleep had come back. So now So now I don't but they gay guys would use it it's illegal Rupinal it is No, no, it's not all is a legal. Oh is it it's sold in some countries as I'm saying it wrong It's real hip no, no, yeah It's sold in some countries as a sleeping pill But it's illegal in the United States because it can cause extreme drowsiness or blackouts often used in date rapes. Oh, okay Yeah, so it's illegal. It's sold under the brand name rohithanol. Benzodiazepine. Oh

mmm to benzo, uh-huh Okay, and so this GHB bodybuilders use it because it helps them recover Yeah, and help and get them create creates growth hormone mmm It does on it's great for people who are aging and so now you can't get it and It's great for people who are aging and so now you can't get it and And because they couldn't these motherfuckers the same thing with I need to give that to Biden Don't you love that? Don't you love the bullshit they would say about like Chris Cuomo said said this when he was talking to Dave

But he goes well the people who make Ivermectin they say it doesn't treat Cove You know why because it's off patent you fucking asshole and they can't make money off it So now anybody could make it and it's pennies. Yeah, that's why you don't know that newsman Yeah, how the fuck did this know I guess Dave Smith didn't know but I mean sitting next to that guy How did he keep his cool? I wanted just Dave Smith was such a like he's so level-headed while that was going on I was like how the fuck did Dave Smith not lose his fucking mind talking to that guy It was glad that it's good that there was a live audience there

Yeah, in the lab eyes like bull shit Bullshit, and when you see him say I didn't do it I didn't say that and then there's a video of him saying I'm saying it How does he not know that and then he goes well? This was he says that this was the information that we were being given Yeah, and you're supposed to go out there and debunk the information you're being given by the government and big pharma. You know, it's just supposed to fucking repeat it.

If you just did one Google search of what is ivermectin. That's it, he wouldn't do that! That's all you had to do. One Google search. It doesn't take five minutes, takes 30 seconds. And you're like, oh, it won a Nobel Prize for the guy who invented it? For human medicine? Oh my God. Oh my God.

It's one of the safest drug profiles ever observed. Oh. Ever. Ever. ever safer than Tylenol How crazy was it when Rolling Stone had that article about how rolling stones the worst waiting in line at the emergency room for gunshot wounds? Because so many people were overdosing on horse medication and they're all wearing coats in August and Kentucky How are those people not in trouble? How are they not in trouble for that? Because how many people what just like I could have gotten ivermectin and gotten over covid and didn't get it Well, it's not even saying that it works. Let's just saying some people think it works Some people that are fucking doctors like Pierre Corey certainly it certainly works 87 different

I mean, there's like a bunch of different randomized controlled trials that shows efficacy and that's another thing I learned is that they the people do the test, so the medical journals are also corrupted by big pharma. And so what they'll do is, oh, we're going to do a study on ivermectin. Turns out it doesn't work. Well, you look, they do the study, they set it up to fail, right? They give it to a person a week after they already got sick. You're supposed to give it to them right away.

They give it to them in way smaller doses than they're supposed to. And then they did one where they gave them to way higher doses so they were toxic. That was hydroxychloroquine, right? So they were doing with all, so that's what, it's a fucking scam. So the medical field is just as bought

by the same people as your corporate news is. So we're all walking around in a big propaganda fucking machine and nobody knows it. They think they know and they get so righteous and they come, know, it's it The crazy thing is doctors buying into it And when you realize that you can't trust them for medical advice You're like wait

What when you have a doctor telling you that you should get vaccinated after you just got over being sick and you're only sick For a couple days and you have two two people that you know that had strokes who could run the vaccine and you're like wait What who gets vaccinated for a virus? They already had and got over nobody that's in the history of ever right? Yeah, nobody my parents But nobody else I knew I knew people I know comedians and that to me Oh, I know a bunch of comedians the Harper the Harper I was always so proud to be part of the comedy community or the brotherhood whatever, you know We we there's a certain kind of thing right we talk in dark terms to each other we say the most

inappropriate shit to each other but it's just all flipped I mean some of my favorite comedians some of my best friends they just fucking went mental and then they attacked me yeah but they're just what they're not really your friends anyway they're a bunch of narcissists that all live in this stupid bubble where they're trying to get validation from people by virtue signaling. That's all those people were, a bunch of cowards and weirdos, and they all turned on everybody. And they generally turned on people that are more successful than them. That's what they really, this is really all about, the heart of it.

It's signaling to your tribe that you are compliant, you're a part of the group think, and then attacking the people that are above you that are doing more successfully, that are more successful with their career than you. That's all it was. And all the people that did it are all terrible comedians. They're all mediocre, sad, narcissists that wish they got more attention than they got. They think they got, they didn't get what they deserve. They think they should be getting more. They're angry at people that are getting attention.

They don't understand the success of other people, and they get, he's an anti-vaxxer, he's an anti-vaxxer. Oh, that's what's going on? That's why he's got millions of views? Is that what it is? Is it really that what it is? It is an amazing that every day there's a new study, there's a new study from South Korea that just came out that said the vax is, there's a link between the vax, the COVID

vax and Alzheimer's, right? So, and still, and nobody will talk about it. Where are the comedians coming out with the, like the same people who always were debunking the COVID narrative are still, there's no one that's jumping on board. It's just, I'm telling you, brother, it's just LA. Is it? Yeah, you come to Texas,

that green room's lit. We talk about everything. Okay. No, there's no political correctness died that green room's lit. We talk about everything. There's no political correctness. It died here. It's dead. Really? It's dead.

It doesn't exist. I thought it would be red hot in Austin. No. Austin, like my friend Brian Simpson has a brilliant joke about it, and I'm not going to quote it, but what he's essentially saying is that it appears that this is a liberal city because you're surrounded by red Texas but the liberal here is regular liberal it's like what we are yeah you and I are like regular reasonable people who are kind not like crazy like narrative and force yeah baby should be trans you know all that shit

that's not here it's like this is a different version Because it's so tempered like one of the things they always say about Austin is keep Austin weird and surrounded So when people say weird weird is okay, but keep it weird and surrounded you're surrounded by ranchers with guns It's fucking hard-working people that aren't buying any bullshit because they get up at 530 in the morning to take care of their cows. Like they're not fucking around here man. These are a different kind of people and they're nice and they're informed. That's the thing about this town that's different. It's like they're much more informed. You're going to get your liberal loonies here. You get your people walking on the street with masks on. You get a lot of crazy shit here. You get your free Palestine marches.

You get a lot of nutty people, but it's a more tempered environment. People are more reasonable. How about the... So there are comedians in Los Angeles who wear a mask into the green room, and then they take it off when they go on stage. Right, they're all terrible.

They're all terrible. Do you think the coronavirus is respectful of stage time? It is. the green room and then they take it off when they go on stage. Right, they're all terrible. They're all terrible. Do you think the coronavirus is respectful of stage time? It is. No, it is, it's the lights. Those lights, they kill the virus. So here's the one good thing, I'm talking about my dreams,

is so I've had this happen more than once. I'll have a dream where one of my biggest haters, someone who attacks me on public and social media and stuff like that, I'll meet them in my dream and I don't have any animosity, but what I can see in them is where their hatred for me comes from and it comes from their pain and their insecurity and a lot of time it's jealousy like you were saying. And I can see it and so I don't have any animosity

towards them in my dream and I have compassion for them. Having compassion for someone who hates you, I have it. And then when I wake up, it doesn't go away. It stays with me and it's like this gift from my unconscious, my transpersonal self-god, it's a gift. And so it's like- That is a gift Yeah, and I'm so it's like that is a gift to really say where I can I literally have compassion For the people who hate me the most what a fucking gift. It's beautiful because it'll eat you up It stills I'm not a hundred. You know me. I'm not a hundred percent. It still bothers me sometimes

Yeah, but I've had I've had a dream about that guy. Yeah that guy just say I had a dream about him Yeah, that guy and he's I give him a hug if I saw him Despite he said awful things about me. He's just a sad man. Just a sad pathetic man, and that's okay That's your burden in this life you you're gonna go to the grave as that guy and everyone's gonna know and you you're this Irritant that's in the air. You're a fart. It's in a locker room You're you're a problem. You need this is your choice. You've decided to be this very unpleasant very anxiety ridden very

Mediocre artist who's out there yelling and screaming into the abyss on Twitter. Well, that's your burden This is what you're gonna have to go through your life with and I don't envy you and I don't man I'm not even mad at that guy. Yes, I feel sad Yeah, I they wear that mask bro. It's a fucking MAGA hat. That's a yes for Democrats It's unbelievable, and then you see people I'll still see people today that choose to wear a mask and then they wear it under their nose. Yeah, that's my favorite that choose to wear a mask and then they wear it under their nose. Duh, that's my favorite.

Ha ha ha ha ha. You gotta be fucking. It doesn't work anyway. If you wanna be anti-science, wear a mask. That shit does not work, especially a surgical mask. Get the fuck outta here, you moron. It's so stupid. It's so stupid.

You don't even know what a surgical mask is for. It's to keep particulates from people's mouths from dropping into wounds That's what that's for yeah It doesn't stop anything from respiratory like a respiratory virus and going in they go I've had people say oh why don't you go tell the doctors because all the doctors wear masks I go yeah in the in the operating room so shit doesn't fall out of their mouth into an open wound You know when they come over before you get before you go into the operating room the doctor comes over to talk to you

He takes his mask off when he talks to you remember that they don't fucking have it out when they're Stupid it's like it's so childish, but yet it became official doctrine just like the six foot distance thing It's made up a fictional until I want to say so You know we've seen Fauci lied to Rand Paul twice about funding the gain of function research, right? Up and down the chain, people are saying, fuck, you mean the people you hired? And so he lied to Congress twice at least about that, right? And then everything else he just lied about.

But there will be no consequence. That's the thing that's unsatisfying. It's good just to watch them confront him, the congressmen that we're confronting him. Isn't it interesting though, that the same thing happened to him with AIDS, right? So people forget, there's that movie called The Dallas Buyers Club.

And Matthew McConaughey won the goddamn Oscar for that movie, and the bad guy in that movie, Dr. Fucking Fauci. And so, you know Matthew McConaughey knows that. Why doesn't he say something? I think he wants to keep working. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. You gotta keep your that yeah, why doesn't he say something? I think he wants to keep working. That's exactly it Yeah, that's exactly it. You got to keep your head down. You can't go

Yeah, if you go Woody Harrelson people yeah, they automatically write hit pieces. I love that guy I love that guy too when he did that thing on Saturday night live. We started writing hit pieces. Yes immediately immediately Yeah, they know what they're doing. They know what they're doing They're little lap dogs, but also nobody believes those hip pieces, the people that read it that hate Woody Harrelson, they already hated him. It's like you're not gonna get those people back. You're gonna have a certain amount of people that don't like you no matter what. So those hip pieces don't really work anymore. They just inform your haters that, oh I'm on the right track, I knew he was a retard. That's all it is.

It's just, it's not real. The whole thing's not real and everyone knows it's not real when a guy goes on Saturday Night Live and has a funny monologue That's essentially realistic, you know, and it's about that was that was so perfectly said amazing It was amazing. It was amazing. Of course, they attacked him But that's just all that does really is show you where the demons are like who's attacking him for that Who are the people that have sold their soul? Who are the people that are willing to go after this guy for saying something that we all know to be true? You're going to go after him for that?

Remember when they went after Eric Clapton? Oh my God. They went after him so hard. And Eric Clapton, who was vaccinated? Yes. Who was vaccinated and had a horrible reaction to the vaccine. He's a racist. They found some black guy who worked with him 20 years ago, said he was a racist.

He's a racist. He's a racist. Everything. They went after him. Anti-vaxxer, racist, responsible to the death of millions with his poor choice of words, describing his personal illness. But that's how transparent everything is. I mean, obviously I experienced it.

It's fascinating to watch it happen when they turn on you. It's weird, it's weird. Because for me, the weirdest thing about it was like, the play was so stupid because I was obviously okay. I was obviously healthy really quickly. Well, you did look green. I should have filmed it.

Because I worked out six days later, I did 10 rounds on the heavy bag because I wanted to find out if I felt good and I felt fine Wouldn't you be more interested in how someone got better if you really wanted the world to be a healthier place? You'd be like what did that guy do that's different He's just telling you what he did and he got better and he wasn't vaccinated So what did he do that's different and wouldn't that be what the news wants? But no, when the news is controlled by giant corporations, that is an uncomfortable truth. That is a real problem, having that narrative out there, that there's someone out there that can get healthy without taking this thing that we're telling everybody they have to take. But if it worked, why would you care if I took it, if you

took it? You can't get it. So you just, let me get sick. Let me be a dummy that just gets sick and recovers, which most people did. That's the other thing. They wanted to pretend that like 10% of the people were dying in the hospitals all over. I know it's like 99.7% of the people survived and the people that didn't survive had a... Three comorbidities. Four. Four comorbidities. Four. And then as soon as Bill Gates cashed in his stock. Yep, start sucking shit. He starts shitting on the facts.

Well, you know, we didn't know that it had a low fatality rate, the virus had a low fatality rate, and that the vaccine, it wasn't long lasting, and it didn't block transmission or contraction. And so we gotta do better. We got this new thing, it's a nasal thing. He literally does it, we got this new thing, and this actually works better. I look into it, he's fucking funding this new thing. It's a nasal thing He literally does it we got this new thing and this actually works better. I look into it

He's fucking funding that nasal thing of course he is of course he is I mean now he's buying up all the farmland. He's smart He's a megalomaniac. That's also a guy that People don't realize at one important time was very hated he was in the 90s. Yeah, he was a was very hated. He was hated. In the 90s. Yeah. Anti-trust. Yeah, because he was monopolist

and he knew how to crush people who had innovation. And so they throw pies in his face. Yep. And then he got smart and he was like, oh, I'm gonna buy the media. Yeah. And that's exactly. Spent hundreds of millions of dollars

buying media corporations off. And so like when you see PBS NewsHour do a thing on vaccines, it's being funded by Bill Gates. And it's about a vaccine that he's invested in. So he's funding the vaccine, he's funding the NGOs that's gonna distribute it, he's funding the media coverage of the thing. It's like every which way he's got it.

And so because he wears a crew neck and he looks like a nerd, people think, nerds wouldn't lie. That's why people think Chris Hayes on MSNBC, he's a nerd, he wouldn't lie. Rachel Mano's a homosexuals, they don't lie. They're naturally good people. Especially if she's wearing a business suit.

She's so serious. Well I like this. She's a no-nonsense business man. I like to say she wears those fake Megyn Kelly eyelashes and she wears. Does she? Yes, and then she wears jeans that are three times too big for her.

Talk about someone in conflict. Oh, does she really? Oh yes, she wears the man jeans that are gigantic, and then she wears the Megyn Kelly eyelashes. Interesting, the man jeans is an interesting choice. Yes. I wonder what that's saying. That's someone in deep conflict with themselves.

Hmm, interesting. So that's nice, but $100,000 a day smooths that over, I guess. That's a lot of money. You could spend that in all sorts of fun ways. $100,000 a day? I think you'd buy a Porsche a day. And that was her reward. How about that?

That was, wow. One Porsche a day. Just have a 911 for every day of the week. It's worth lying. Go around a corner sideways, whee! Listen to good tunes, Stewart, so wake up Maggie Let's go so down the Malibu coast So that's the example that's the so they put you Julian Assange in prison

Right and Bell Marsh and Rachel Maddow does Russia gate lies about Ukraine lies about Libya lies about Syria And they she gets a100,000 a day. I'm glad you brought up Julian Assange because what did he have to do to get free? So he had to admit that he committed one felony. But didn't he have to delete things? Oh, he did, turns out, I didn't know, yeah, it turns out they did delete some shit.

It's like 20,000 documents or something. Oh, that's only 20,000. It's no big deal. But man oh man. What was it about? Man oh man, that guy, that's only 20,000. It's no big deal. But, man oh man. What was it about? Man oh man, that guy, I mean, what a hero. What an unbelievable, absolute hero. I thought he was gonna die.

I thought he was gonna die in that prison too. What do you think happens to him now? And it looks like they knew they were gonna let him out because when they let him out, he had a little bit of weight on him. It looked like he wasn't as frail as he once was. Oh, like they think you're feeding him good? They look like, hey, start sending him three meals a day,

get him all the steak and everything, so when we let him go, he doesn't look horrible. Oh, was he eating poorly before that? Well, he was, I mean, I saw pictures of him, he looked horrible. Well, he's not getting any vitamin D, right? Right. He's indoors all day long for 10 years?

Like, how long was he in jail for? Or locked up? So he was in that prison for six years, but he was in that embassy for, I eight years before that or something like that? God damn. Yeah. He was in prison for six years. I'm pretty sure six years. So no you know. Jamie will find out. Didn't he go into, was it 2019? Seven and a half years total. Seven and a half. Seven and a half years of self-imposed confinement and then five years of enforced detention. Okay so five years in Belmar, seven and a half years of self-imposed confinement and then five years of enforced detention Okay, so five years in Belmar seven and a half years in that in that Ecuadorian embassy

Where how did he not go? I don't know how he didn't and then and then they made him pay for his flight home Half a million half a million dollars private though probably had champagne strawberries Why wouldn't someone like mark mark Cuban who who brags about he brags about he loves his jet collection Like why wouldn't he just send a jet over there to take care of him? He's busy arguing people on Twitter. Oh He's another fucking maniac. Yeah, he likes arguing on Twitter. Yeah, it's interesting to watch and he's wrong about almost everything He's wrong about quite a bit Rav Avorra is This young kid who's a journalist who's really good and he's gone back and forth with them to the point Mark Cuban has to step out of the

chat. He just gets clowned. It's just weird that a person that that busy would choose to engage with people and like the one of the poorest ways to communicate like to go back and forth in argument with people on Twitter. You should want to post things and you know you have something that you feel like it's on your mind like go post that but you start arguing with people on Twitter like I go how much time do you have? No kidding. How do you have the time?

Don't you own 85 million companies that you have to run? It's like a sign of mental illness to be arguing with people all day on Twitter in my opinion. I think when I see people arguing with people on Twitter I'm like oh that's a person that's rack with anxiety that's like a truly unhealthy person there's no way you can't be you're going back and forth with people you you feel it you're a human being if you're in conflict you're trying to get one up on the person every fucking tweet you're checking your Twitter every five minutes to see who's responded and how it's doing did you you get ratioed? Oh my god ratio

Then your wife's upset your kids daddy can we play hold on hold on you're in the middle of tweeting It's fucking it's manic stuff. It's not good for you. It's bad for you It's a bad way to communicate the best way to communicate is civilly in front of a person That's the best way even though you're yelling and screaming to the person right in front of you that feels bad, too You should be able to, as a grown adult, have a civil conversation with people where you could disagree with, even really disagree with something, but just keep a professional, polite tone.

But there's this, you know what's interesting? I just interviewed this woman called Blair White. I don't know if you've ever- Yeah, I've had Blair on. So I told her, I said, you know when- Right wing trans person. Yeah. What are the odds?

Right? So I've had trans fans come to the show, right? Kurt Fox from the green room. But- Well, how dare you? Depending, depending how they look. And they have guns. I've had a couple of trans fans come with her

and they're like, hey, you wanna see my gun and I was like Larry kidding. That's hilarious. So but anyway when I when I was talking to her I was like, you know, I feel like You're a woman like I get the energy of a female from yes, and whereas Dylan Mulvaney is Seems like a gay guy doing it an unbelievable caricature of a woman right and agreed and she she agreed and she said yeah he has gay boy energy yeah and so she went she went to these LGBTQ the pride parades right and she would ask people how many genders do you think there are and when do you think kids should be allowed to have gender-affirming care and have hormones and stuff so he's asking these questions

right which we're all talking about right and she's doing it in a polite way and the fucking way people turn they hit they had security following her basically got kicked out of the LG the pride fest and and people are like fuck like they found out that she says to one guy you know what do you think about Donald Trump? He was the first president in the United States to go into the White House supporting gay marriage. And like I never looked, I never thought of it like that.

And they're like, oh, you're a Trump supporter. Fuck you. I'm like, I always thought that the gay pride movement was about tolerance and diversity and let me be my thing and you can do your thing. Now it's like, no, you're only allowed to have one opinion, you're only allowed to have one political view, and if you step outside, it's like, fuck you.

Yeah, exactly. Isn't it, that's the opposite of what I thought the gay movement was all about. Well, it's the opposite of what the progressive movement's supposed to be all about. The progressive movement is all supposed to be about intelligent, well-educated, compassionate people that have a better perspective of how things are and what causes people to live in unfortunate circumstances and the inefficiencies of so many government organizations and the

importance of the working class community. That's what it's supposed to be about. It's supposed to be about like being kind and helping people and supporting workers and rights and all those things that that's what it originally was. But the problem is with any ideology if you have to have a rigid adherence to whatever the ideology states, whatever the doctrine is, that can shift shift to the point where it's no longer even a progressive value and you call yourself a progressive, yet you support all these ideas. Like you support the war in Ukraine.

You support all these different things. Censorship. They're fucking insane. Censorship. Yeah, the FBI. The hallmark of authoritarian dictators is censorship. Yeah. And they got people who consider themselves progressive to be for...

So like I say'm I've never changed I'm for bodily autonomy my body my choice, which you don't hear people say anymore But they'll say is on for pro-abortion. No, you see I'm a woman's right to choose Yes, they say yeah, that's what people like to say the most. Okay. I've heard people start saying they're pro-abortion No one's pro-abortion. Well, but so I've stayed my body, my choice, bodily autonomy. I'm anti-war, I'm pro-worker, and I'm anti-censorship for free speech. Those are all considered right-wing positions now. It's crazy.

It's crazy. But it just shows you that what we're talking about, it's just the ideology. It's just a cult. And there's two cults in this country. There's the right-wing cult and the left-wing cult. And there's a bunch of people that country. There's the right-wing cult and the left-wing cult. And there's a bunch of people that are centrists. There's a bunch of people that have a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and they're kind of in the middle. And they're kind of like a left-leaning conservative or a right-leaning progressive.

And they're confused, and they don't know what to think. And I think the majority of people are kind of really, if you isolated them and get them out of their tribal thinking, the way they look at the world, if it could be explained to them in a kind way, most people are in the center. Most people. I think, I generally think most people are. But the people on the far left are so fucking crazy, and the people that are on the far right are so fucking crazy, that if you're on the left, you see the people on the far right, well, I'm not that fucking person, so I must be on the left. And then if you're on the right,

and you go, yeah, but I'm kind of like pretty open-minded when it comes to a lot of social issues, but then you see Antifa, you go, well, what the fuck? I'm not with those people, I must be right-wing. And then you have this chaos that we have currently. The whole left, I just, I don't call them, people, oh, the far left, I just call them Democrats, right? Cause they became, they're not,

that's not left if you're for war. It's not left if you're for censorship. It's not left if you're for mandating experimental medical treatments. Right. That's not, there's nothing left about that, right? You just vote Democrat. And so, and these are two bullshit constructs

being left, right. I don't think it matters that much. I've got way more in common with people who are considered right-wing than I do with Joe fucking Biden. Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And the thing is that people don't realize if when they say organ, I've told you this before, when people say we have to organize along class lines. That means organizing with Trumpers. The workers. That's what they, Christian Smalls did on Staten Island when he organized the first union in Amazon, right? He didn't go down there and go, hey who here is for LGBTQ? Hey who here is a gun nut? You're

out. Who's not, who's for freedom of speech? You're out. He just went, who's here to get together? We have an economic interest to oppose the man. You're with me? That's how you fucking organize. You come around and you don't have all these things that will exclude, it's all about excluding people. And by the way, I found out that all this trans stuff, all this, it's all come from the top down. It doesn't come from the bottom up. I figured this out when I saw that Larry Fink,

the head of Black Rod, talk about enforcing ESG and DEI. And so that's because those companies are the ones who are raping the planet and screwing everybody, but then they stick a gay pride flag on what they're doing so they can wrap themselves in a patina of virtue, and that's all that is, and that's coming, and it's also great because it keeps us divided.

So if we're fighting over bathrooms and people competing in sports and swimming and all that, then we're not eyes off the ball. Our eyes off the 200 or $600 billion they're sending to the military industrial complex in an up for transfer of well we're not talking about the CARES Act the largest we're not talking about things that actually matter that people are still living under bridges people don't have health care that doesn't bankrupt them people can't go bankrupt just trying to go to college people don't have a decent 80% of workers

living paycheck to paycheck half the country can't afford a $500 emergency all that shit we're not talking about any of that stuff if we're talking about decent 80% of workers living paycheck to paycheck, half the country can't afford a $500 emergency, all that shit. We're not talking about any of that stuff if we're talking about all that other stuff. Exactly. Exactly. And that's part of the playbook. The playbook is keep the people distracted and divided.

That's always been the playbook. And then while we're in the middle of these international conflicts that are baffling to everybody involved, and you're wondering how they have all this money to do that but they don't have any money to address all the problems that we have. How about the people in Maui? Imagine being a person in Maui that lost their home, they give you $700 and then you still can't rebuild. It's a year later, nothing's been built.

At the blink of an eye, they give $100 billion to Zelensky and... Well, even worse, they accidentally sent Ukraine six billion they sent an accidental six billion So then we looked up like how much would it cost to rebuild every house that got destroyed in the fire five billion? So they could have done. Why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they do that? I don't understand those people are devastated and then there's all this talk about like taking over that land and we go to Maui I was in Maui and you see people have put graffiti on the side of buildings saying this is a land grab. Yeah.

You see that a lot. It is a land grab. It's a pretty transparent land grab. Right? It's happening in front of our eyes, and no one's doing anything about it because it's five hours in a jet across the ocean. And we're watching this shit take place

where these people, and first of all, just horrible mismanagement of water rights, horrible mismanagement of power lines. The fact that they have horrible winds, crazy winds there, and they've had these fucking power lines that are above ground. When I lived in California, my fucking lines were underground. They figured it out there. How come they didn't figure it out in Hawaii?

You know how much money could have been saved? They just put the power lines underground? It was so unfortunate that their alarm system malfunctioned. Yeah, how about that? And that the water got turned off so the firefighters. They wouldn't let them turn the water on. The water's a very valuable commodity there. The whole thing is fucking insane.

And that the cops are turning people back into the fire. The whole thing is insane. These are all just unfortunate. It's unfortunate thing. Well, how about that mayor who goes on TV like what? Two weeks after the fires talks about how they're going to like try to figure out how to turn into a monument. Oh, I didn't know. I didn't see that. No. Was it the mayor or the governor?

I forget which which guy it was, but he was talking about how they're talking about erecting a monument and like turning into a park or something. What? It's super valuable land where these people are. Yeah. That's the problem. That everybody recognizes these people have these modest homes on this super valuable piece of land.

And if something should happen, some homes, some whoopsies. Whoopsies. If that whoopsies happens and then they can figure out a way to take it You know have you ever seen a fire that melted? The wheels off cars, and it does I mean fires do do that yeah, yeah, okay? Yeah, extreme heat is fucking insane what it does to cars and also cars are filled with oil oil and gasoline The kind of heat that you get off of a burning vehicles extraordinary, you know when you're

Fires are one thing like a wood fire But a fire of a car that's filled with 30 gallons of gas and has rubber tires like that. He is fucking extraordinary Yeah, extraordinary. I don't believe you I Extraordinary. Extraordinary. I don't believe you. I mean, fire can do wild things, man. It really can, but the real problem

is how they handled everything. It's so poorly done. By the way, they've had wildfires there commonly because of the fact that they have, like, see, there's. Yeah. This is Tennessee. Yeah, liquid aluminum, so the wheels melt. So that's all liquid aluminum.

Oh, really? That's the wheels melting. Yeah. all right I believe you yeah fire from gasoline and Everything in a car is made out of plastic think about if you have vinyl seats and Plastic grommets and all these different plastic pieces that are on your sides You know your your a columns and all this all that's plastic the fucking steering wheels plastic the dashboards plastic Yeah, all that shit goes up and bro you better get the fuck out of the way and

30 gallons of gasoline like that that's that's heat man that melts everything melts melts mufflers melts everything Anything aluminum is fucked so Do you so there's no way to vote our way out of these problems. It doesn't seem like in America that we're at this end. What do you think we could do? What do you think is the real solution to try to get us on the right path? What is the thing that can be done? I think there has to be a, you know, like you say there's an awakening of people realizing that they're being screwed over by a billionaire class. It's international, right? Like, so the border being

open. So that's not only happening in America, that's also happening in Europe, right? You've seen that and you see what's happening to London, France, what they're doing in Scotland, places like that. And Poland said no, right? They closed their border. But I think this is some kind of bigger plan to,

and so I think if people wake up to that, which I think they are plan to, and so I think if people wake up to that, which I think they are starting to, it's gonna look, it looks something like the trucker protest in Canada, eh? You always say AF in Canada every time? Yes. It's like that tick? Yes.

I think it's gonna look like something like that. We have to have a way to, we gotta make, you know, like January 6th, which was, you know, a frickin' instigated by the FBI, we know that. I love to see the guy who was the congressman, he was interviewing the head, Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI, and he said, did you have any FBI assets inside the Capitol

before the breach dressed up like MAGA people? And he says, I can't answer that. And the congressman goes the answer should be no it should be no. So what so again and so that was an attempt to criminalize Trump and criminalize his political movement. The same grand jury the same Rico statute that they used to indict Donald Trump in Atlanta they used to also same Rico statute same grand jury to indict the stop cop city protesters. And you know, when I made that case to Cornell West, I go, do you see the game that's being played now?

Because they're not only criminalizing their political opponents in the United States, they're doing that all around the world. They did that in Pakistan. So Imran Khan, the guy who stood up and said, people of Pakistan do not want to go along with NATO's wars anymore He immediately threw him in jail though. He's a criminal. They did the same thing they did in Brazil They didn't want Lula to be president So they threw him in jail, right?

And so they thought the center-right guy was gonna win but then the far-right guy Bolsonaro won the Trump of Brazil They're like, oh fuck. What do we do? So they had to let Lula back out of prison because he's the only one who could beat him and then once they beat him They then made it illegal for Bolsonaro to ever run for president again, and it's the same shit They're doing they make it illegal for Bolsonaro to not run for president They they just like they're trying to do to Trump right now giving the four different 92 felony, but so they Bullshit charges against them. I don't know the ins and outs. I know they did I know they did that So so that's what so I think people need to wake up to that.

And wake up to, if anybody catches on fire and that is a problem for the establishment, they criminal, look what they did to the goddamn Brussels brand for fuck's sake. So immediately if you get a voice and you become a problem for the establishment, that's the new game. They just criminalize you now. And everybody goes along with it.

Can you believe how people go along with the, they say that what they are currently doing to Donald Trump, they say he's gonna do that to us. You're already fucking doing it. We've already, this whole idea that somehow he's, doesn't, isn't that kind of mind blowing? How do people not, well, Andrew Cuomo was on the Bill Maher show and he admitted that

they should have never brought that case and that if he was the attorney general, he would have never did it. And the only reason that case was ever brought was because it was, Donald Trump was the center of it. This is how dumb they are. They went after that guy, Andrew Cuomo, which if you were gonna be strategic about

who is your tough guy Democrat that could be president, why would they? It's that guy. Yeah. Andrew Cuomo. They gave him an Emmy for his bullshit coverage of COVID. Yeah, hilarious. Then they took it away. But listen, he's not a virologist. He's acting on a bunch of different experts who are telling him what to do, including letting people that have COVID back in the nursing homes, turns out to be devastating. And then also the use of ventilators, which they thought was important. They needed, we thought we needed to kill them. Turns out to kill people. Yeah. Killed some bizarre number. Like 80% of the people they put on ventilators. Yes. One up dying. Yeah. So. And then they would give you drugs that slowed down your breathing. But my point is, if that doesn't happen, that guy's your guy against Trump.

Yeah. That guy's your guy. I mean, that's a big, tough guy who speaks well, he's charismatic, he's a big Italian guy who's gonna lay it, I mean, great speaker, you heard him on Bill Maher, I'm like, boy, if it wasn't for this one scandal of him liking to hug ladies. Ah, we just, you know, I'm Italian. He is! I like the, you know, we played the little grab- just, you know, I'm Italian. He is. I like the, you know, we played the little grab ass.

Yeah. You know, it was a big deal. Come on. Listen, Bo, you know, I mean, Joe Biden has been, is that your phone that keeps dinging? Joe Biden has been sniffing kids and hugging people forever. Jesus Christ.

You know, I mean, he's, maybe it's me. No, it's me. Is it? Okay. I mean, he's a fucking weird guy. And they just decided for whatever reason that they were gonna take Cuomo out, and I never understood that strategic move.

And it must have been some sort of an inside power grab play, but then they replaced him with that hooch-a-lady who's out of her fucking mind. God has brought us this vaccine, this vaccine's brought by God. What are you even fucking talking about? And then she fired? 100,000 healthcare workers how about when she said that black people I would a computer is a computer is how crazy is that?

Yeah, how crazy is that to even say? Imagine anyone else so yeah That's how you know how corrupt the media is because they didn't make a big deal out of that no everybody was like what the fuck Did you see the memes or the videos that kids made no? Oh my god, so many funny videos of black kids moving around a computer like confused like a caveman Well, I mean your phone is a computer dude everyone knows what a fucking computer is. It's 2024. That's like Joe Biden in the primary in 2020. Play the record player. They need to hear words.

Turn on the TV. The idea that poor black people don't have a laptop. What the fuck are you talking about? Everyone's online, you moron. Everyone, literally the whole country's online. Did you see the mayor of New York? He said that, so they're trying to get these immigrants jobs, and he's like, well, a lot of them are real good swimmers.

You didn't see that? Yeah, I did see that. Oh yeah, insane. It's like when you wanna be lifeguards. When you wanna call them wetbacks, but you wanna be politically correct. Jesus Christ. That's what that was. It's so crazy.

The whole thing is so crazy. It's so crazy to watch all the gaslighting and chaos. It's also amazing to see that the Democratic Party is now the establishment party. And it used to be the other way. The Democratic Party used to be the party that represented workers and was against the billionaire class.

But then Bill Clinton and Al Gore, no friend of the working man, they saw Reagan and they were like, hey, if you can't beat them, join them. And so they decided, they said, Wall Street, we got it, give us the money, military, give it, they started a thing called the Democratic Leadership Council, the DLC.

Do you know who was on the board of the DLC? Koch brothers, they were on the fucking board. Well, they want the world to be a better place, too. And so, that, and, and so they just wanna help people, that's what it's about. That's all it's about. They wanna bring democracy.

That's what I've been saying I'm glad you came around. Thank you. That's why I brought you here. I brought you here to educate you I'm an educator Breaking president by says that a conference call he's staying in. Yes. I'm running. I am the leader of the Democratic Party No one is pushing me out. I've been knocked down before and counted out my whole life when you get knocked down, you get back up. Oh, I think I got a, I bet my phone was lightened up. I like his moxie. I like it. I've been told by, I have a billionaire friend who's like a donor.

They go, hey, they had a big donor meeting in Denver, like 40 of the top Democratic donors. And they said, who here wants to get rid of Joe Biden? And every hand went up. So wants to get rid of Joe Biden? And every hand went up. So that's- I think Jill Biden is a secret Trump fan. That's what I think.

And I think she knows the way to get Trump back in the White House and straighten this country out is to keep her husband, Joe Biden, running. There's no way she thinks he's okay. So something's going on. What, like, conspiratorially, pretend to be Kurt Meskow for a moment. And what do you think, like, if you had to say, why would she want him in, you would say, well, because she thinks maybe he can win, even though he's demented, and maybe she

can stay in power, but also maybe he doesn't get prosecuted. So this is my question about the recent Supreme Court ruling about the presidential immunity. If I was in the Democratic Party and I looked at what's going on with Donald Trump and I looked at the very real possibility that Donald Trump might get back into the White House, I would say, listen, all this Burisma stuff, all this, this is big time shit. There's a lot of evidence, not a little bit of evidence like the Trump thing not 34 Charges of felonies, which is just a misdemeanor. That's just 34 different checks He wrote for a porn star, which is what a cheap bastard. He paid her over 34 different times like payments

I'll give you installments. I'll give her installments a little bit here a little bit there. She doesn't get it all in one lump Well, did you ever see the video how Bill Clinton paid off Paula Jones back when he was running for president? When she had the big check? Remember she had the big check that she won a game show? Oh really? Yeah! It was $850,000 he paid her off.

Right, and back then. And they admitted it. They go, hey okay, now this is over. We paid her off. Well the thing was like writing it down on a ledger as a campaign. Yeah, yeah. But in normal cases, as Andrew Cuomo said on Bill Marshall, that's just a misdemeanor.

That's it, you get a fine. I'm telling you, they fucked up with that Cuomo guy. That guy could have been the president. And he'd probably be a good president. He was a good mayor. I mean, he was a good governor. Like, wasn't he? He's better than Holtzschel, right?

I mean, I don't know. He was like like everybody loved him Oh at the beginning of kovat they loved him. You know, Chelsea handler was saying she's quomo sexual Yeah, remember that remember that sexual everybody loved him. Everybody loved him because he was the stern like straightforward Practical he was the anti-trump right he was a leader He seemed like a leader big handsome guy. He speaks very well. He also seems like a mob boss. You know it's like

Care of it mr.. Cuomo mr.. Cuomo's got it all under control. Are they fucked up like that? I love my brother charismatic people that youth that are I love my brother. You have so few charismatic people that are experienced in politics that could have actually gone against Trump. That was the main guy, in my opinion. Yeah, and I was hoping for it because the guy who does the voices on my show, Mike McCray, he does an Andrew Cuomo. Does he do a good one?

He does a very funny one. I like when you have people call in that aren't the people. A lot of people are like, what? People think it's him. Yeah, who do you have call in What different people the first time I had Bill O'Reilly call in people at KPF here like And they go Bill right just called someone a whore and like that So is that he did an amazing Mitt Romney he was hoping for Mitt Romney to get elected remember on Howard Stern had that guy that would call in his letterman

It was dead on oh, and I never listened Howard's. Oh my god Howard Stern Remember when Howard Stern had that guy that would call in as Letterman and it was dead on? Oh, and I never listened to Howard Stern. Oh my god, Howard Stern used to have this Letterman guy who would call in dead on. Oh really? Dead on. Just saying wild shit. And he would say it was David Letterman. Oh, David Letterman's on the phone. That's what I do. I just pretend, I just pretend.

Oh, he, Mike also does Jeff Bridges. Oh, really? Who does Jeff Bridges? That's a weird one. Hey, I can't do it. Right. I can't do it. Far out, man. Oh, he does Jeff Bridges. Oh Jeff Bridges. That's a weird one. Hey, I can't do it. I can't do it They're like far out man. Oh, he does Jeff Bridges as Lebowski. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's one of the greatest movies of all time all time all time and He does him. He who else does he do that the more normal nobody else does

oh He does a great Kevin spacey. Oh, wow. Oh, it's fucking everything. He says it's like that That's right. Tell me about your lesbian niece Anyway, it's so he does a yeah, he's brilliant So that was he was he was pulling he was hoping for Mitt Romney because nobody else done a mit Romney did you see the contrast between the debate in 2012 with Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, because nobody else did a Mitt Romney. Did you see the contrast between the debate in 2012 with Barack Obama and Mitt Romney? And somebody put it up side by side.

No, no, no. No, no, no. Just the way they spoke with each other. There's a video that shows the contrast between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama speaking so cordially and professionally and graciously to each other in 2012, and then 2024 with Trump and Biden going at each other You're a sucker. You're a loser. Yeah, you know and then he's like he can't play golf. He's got no golf game

Six handicap because I have a six handicap and but that's how wild that dude is and he changes immediately goes I was an eight. Okay, you just switched it. He's a bullshit artist and The worst but I love what when when Trump says to you, let's not be children here like holy shit Hilarious here. I'll go I'll break off with you, but you gotta carry your own bags Like do you think you can carry your own bags? You can't walk down the fucking flight of stairs. This is crazy You can't even carry the own load in your pants. Ah It's just what a wild time you think he shit is himself people were saying he shit himself when he was with McCrone Remember he bent over

Perhaps maybe he was preventing himself. I've shit myself before things happen Things go wrong things go right that's what I say about Mitch McConnell people go you see him have a stroke I go no he shit his pants. Look at his face. I know that face. I've made that face. The Mitch McConnell one?

I think he Windows 95'd. I think he locked up. Yeah, he clicked. Someone needed to control alt delete. That poor guy. All those people. It's like you shouldn't, you know. We have the oldest fucking people.

They're so old. Why? Well, because the young people are all you know There's all bunch of ex-girlfriends and ex-husbands out there that are talking shit about them And they're terrified to run and if they're they have real leadership qualities They probably have a bunch of disgruntled former employees and a bunch of people they can call upon they can make up stories They can cock narratives if you're not chosen to be in that position. You want to buck the system That's what we're seeing with Trump. They come for you. They come for you in very very because I came for our FK, Jr

Yeah, look it out and they're still doing it They just bring up brought up a thing about a nanny from the late 90s said did you see that? No, I didn't see it. No. Yeah, here's the thing about RFK, Jr. They don't think he can win right now. What does this mean? Farting or shitting himself and found this story I'd never heard. What does it say? Joe Biden or the new Mr. Trump? Camilla hasn't stopped talking about hearing the president break wind during the chat at COP26 climate summit in Glasgow. So Biden fart himself?

It was a long and loud and impossible to ignore. Camilla hasn't stopped talking about it. That Biden just farts. Farted in a normal meeting, yeah. He produced a little natural gas of his own at the COP26 summit. It was audible enough to make the Duchess of Cornwall blush. But is this the Daily Mail? Yeah, they can just kind of say things, can't they? Oh, okay.

Over there, they can just kind of say things. You know, that's why. You got it from Politico. Oh, they say it too? They were reporting, they were reporting. Oh my goodness. Maybe it is true. Let's go with it All people fart it happens. Yeah, that guy's not in control of anything. You think he's in control of his farts

So do you think someone messed up and gave Joe Biden the real vaccine? I don't think that's what happened I think he's dying. I mean he had two brain surgeries Yeah, he had a brain surgery where they literally cut the top of your head off He had aneurysms like he had like but it's but but like look I told you this study from South Korea's like it helped Oh the ice Alzheimer's thing. Yeah, it spurs it on. I mean, I don't think any of that stuff's gonna help I mean, I think he was already deteriorating. Yeah, he was definitely period. So I saw a guy this guy. Dr. John Campbell Sure, so he's great. He thinks yeah, he says Although he pretends I won't I don't exist he won't respond to me. What do you mean? He won't come on my show

We want to talk to me wonder why I? He goes on everybody else's show but including Russell Brand but He he just the other day I saw a video I tweeted it out of that he says he thinks he has Lewy body disorder which is what I think Robin Williams did. Yes, he did, yeah. And so he talks about all the different things that people will mistake it for Alzheimer's and will mistake it for Parkinson's but it's really this Lewy body disorder thing.

He might be right. He's been right through the entire pandemic, very reasonable and very right when he's talking about. Well, once he realized that it was a lie. And then he's like, he got duped. It's like all these people, like even like Pierre Corrie, he's like, I didn't realize how corrupt the medical field is and how they control the medical journals and they can just make a study that will just prove a drug is good and they'll just do it wrong, say it's bad.

And so yeah, he was so, he found this out through COVID too that like, wow, the medical journals are all corrupt. And what we saying that he was, so he thinks that Biden has Lewy body dementia? Yeah, that's it. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's just shocking that he can say that I'm not going anywhere you get knocked down you get back up like There's no you know one has down no one knocked you down

But no one has the ability that's what's crazy No one has the ability in the Democratic Party to pull him aside and say it's over like who would be that person? This is the right Yeah, why was the one who got everybody to drop out in the primary in 2020 right except for Elizabeth Warren so they could split the vote of Bernie right right so I think it's Obama so why wouldn't Obama have that power over him now you think once he's president he's like I'm president I think he's getting replaced I think he's still I think he's getting replaced I don't care what he says do you think there's still I think he's getting replaced. I don't care what he says. Do you think there's a possibility they would?

It's someone there is someone I think Possibly if I needed to you get assassinated him with a balloon I mean, you know, you get assassinated with a mosquito bite. Yeah, you don't have scary movie It is overtakes Joe Biden is the favorite to be the candidate. It's like a betting site though. So like she became the top odds. Well bro, you want Trump to win again. I would have her, her run against Trump. What we know about what has been and what will be based on what we know about what has already existed. This time that we're living in and time is a time just passes by.

What can't be unburdened by what has been. Time just passes by. What can be unburdened by what has been? The crazy thing is she said it more than once. She said it a million times. She didn't even tighten it up. And she does it with different takes. Give me a different take. What can be unburdened by what has been?

Like you're doing a read. Like you're doing a fucking audition. What can be? And then she'll do it and then she'll do it laughing give me one laughing. Oh my god Give me one we are about to cry Give me one. Yeah, be overly sincere give me one where you're throw it just throw it away throw it away Have you watched Idiocracy recently? I haven't watched it. It's like a documentary. It's what watch it again watch it now You're like, oh my god. I just so wish that George Carlin was still alive.

Yeah, that would have been fun. Because he was getting more cantankerous. Oh yeah, he would have went crazy. They would have killed him. Maybe he killed him anyway. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe we still have him. The government saw it coming.

When did he die? 2018, I believe. And how about, I don't know, but how about, again it's because the media's controlled that nobody cares that Jeffrey Epstein's list. 2008? Oh, I was off by ten years. Wow. He was only 71? Yeah, see, they killed him. Told you. Well if you see that... Looked like shit, right?

But he had a lot of heart attacks. He did a lot of coke. They killed him told you Well, if you see that shit, right if he But he had a lot of heart attacks. He did a lot of coke did a lot of pills, too Yeah, remember there was a few years back where even in his elder years. He went to rehab for pills 71 is does not seem that old right especially now that I'm No, wow, it's 14 years older than me Yeah, that's I can't do the math but yeah drinking 20 beers a day in 1973 says he was smoking joints before breakfast drinking 20 beers a day and sharing a heavy cocaine habit with Brenda a freelance tower Coordinated a coordinator for Hollywood production companies Wow. Yeah, he was going hard. So he blew his ticker out Yeah production companies. Yeah, he was going hard, so he blew his ticker out. It happens. We lose a lot of the greats that way.

You know, if you see, I saw the one person show, his daughter did about him, and she talks about how his last special, when she walked into the green room, and he turned around, it was like he had aged 10 years from the last time she had seen him, and he looked like this old man, and he was shorter, and he was bent over and and yeah, he did look he did seem like like Biden How by an age like that it seemed like that happened with him? Well, everybody that I know that did heavy coke in the 70s by the time the 90s rolled around they were fucked

Yeah, they were fucked. Yeah, Mitzi Allegedly God rest her soul. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she used to like like to party and you know So many others Richard Pryor, of course, you know love cocaine and you know, by the end he was I saw him right at the end He was to go up at the comedy store. I worked with him. Yeah, if you saw him at the comic show You probably saw me open for him Excuse me me going after him rather. I used to have the bomb going after him He also weathered serious tax problems, a heart attack, and two open heart surgeries. Jesus Christ. His health problems cost him five years of productivity between 77 and 82. Oh

wow, even back then. No kidding. He was having heart attacks in 77? Though he had been able to taper his cocaine use on his own, he said, he continued to abuse alcohol and also became addicted to Vicodin. Oh, that's hard. 2004, he entered a rehabilitation center. No kidding. Yeah.

So if that was four years before he died, he went into rehab for Vicodin. Yeah. Wow. He was probably in bad shape. Wow. Sucks, sucks. Sucks that so many of those greats

just get hooked on these I was so lucky to dodge that bullet when I was sick and I was going through my bone disease I used to have to take a handful of Viking and just to get out of bed I'd have to set my alarm for like a half hour before I had to get out of bed and I would take them and then Wait for him to kick in so I could get out of bed It was tough and I but I didn't get addicted and then and you know all the the only I ever got addicted to was cigarettes Wow, that's crazy. And You know when I was younger in my before I became a comedian. I used to drink gin. Oh

It was just I mean just drinking it. We'd finish off a bottle, you know, I mean it was crazy I can't believe I didn't become an alcoholic I mean, maybe people would say you were back then but, you know? I mean, it was crazy. I can't believe I didn't become an alcoholic. I mean, maybe people would say you were back then, but I just drank on the weekends. And then you just stopped. And then, yeah, when I became a comedian, I was like, oh, I pretty much stopped because I didn't want to go on stage drunk.

Right. And whereas now, I like to have one or two drinks before I go on stage. Loosen you up a little bit. I've become a different, it takes away a little bit of I become a different, it takes away a little bit of a censor. Yeah, yeah.

So it's funny, like I'll do two shows, and so the first show's sober, and then the second show, I remember I was still, I was in Chicago doing a live show with the video, and the second show, I was a little hammered. And it was a totally different show. More fun, right? It was more fun. Yeah, there you go. It was, I was a little hammered and it was a totally different show. More fun, right? It was more fun. Yeah, there you go.

It was. I was like, wow. Alcohol has its place. It just doesn't have its place for everybody. And it doesn't have its place if you're using it every day. It's just like everything else. Yeah. Yeah.

I got to wrap this up and bring it home. Jimmy, you're a fucking gem. You're a gem of a human being. I appreciate you very much and I'm glad you're out there. I really am. I love your show. I love the courage you have and your ability to chase down stories and find the truth of it And and also I think what's really important is you you get it out there in a funny way

I think that it helps people accept it more Well, I'm flattered Joe. I really appreciate you say that appreciate you as always. I'm glad you have this show. Thank you Okay, good to see you. We're gonna have fun tonight. Yeah, all right. you have this show. Thank you. Good to see you. We're going to have fun tonight. Yeah, we're looking forward to it. Bye, everybody.