The Joe Rogan Experience - #2224 - Tim Dillon

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Tim Dillon: This is Your Country," is available on Netflix.  www.timdilloncomedy.com Lea...rn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the end of the world as we know it. How are you feeling? I'm feeling good. Thank you for having me. I heard you were having a problem getting big guests and things were not going good and I said, hey, I'll fly in and I'll help I'm always here to help. Well we were talking about doing a live show at the mothership but somebody told a Puerto Rican joke we're like maybe that's not a
Starting point is 00:00:33 good idea. Yeah it might have been we don't know it could have been interesting could have been fun but could have been fine whatever What are you gonna do? Yeah, it's election. It's election day If if Trump loses he's on suicide watch if Trump loses we're gonna have to hide him We're gonna have to pay a cartel to shelter him for a period of months or years Don't take him in Canada. You just move up to Canada sort of changes rhetoric. Yeah. Yeah No, if Trump loses it definitely he definitely will have to tone it down Move it around a little bit survey the scene, you know, probably not a lot of Puerto Ricans in Canada He could be a hero on the other side though. That's true
Starting point is 00:01:15 He could just emerge is you know left wing just just completely do like a 180 Total in the light flip the scissorissorivity is super important say I did this Yeah, Kamala was me. I knew that was gonna happen right? That's why I told those jokes Yeah, well the funniest thing is that people going that he's a Hollywood plant like those people They're like he was a Hollywood point. You know yeah, those those people are fucking hilarious every now And then I'll come across a comment people think there's some fucking grand conspiracy like we're all being Yeah, puppet mastered. Yeah It's always Jews that they think the Jews are the Jews it always gets to the Jews
Starting point is 00:01:54 It'll start somewhere and then goes to the Jews. I forget who told me this but it's like one of the symptoms of a collapsing Civilization they start blaming things on Jews Yeah, it's like one of them is they get very of a collapsing civilization, they start blaming things on Jews. Yeah. It's like one of them is they get very obsessed with gender, and then the other one is they start blaming Jews. The other thing is they make celebrities out of chefs. Like they get very decadent. This happened in Rome.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Really? Yeah. Like they, like people that provide you these comforts become celebrities because you're just living so much comfort living a decadent Lifestyle and I never considered that that's so that's one of the things that People say is like a harbinger of the apocalypse is like celebrity chefs people just focusing way too much on Like, you know artisanal you know or whatever my wife likes going to those places where they serve you like 13 different things yeah each one is the size of a quarter yeah I need a steak it's very yeah bring it all at once
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'm a glutton yeah I need my food in a large plate yeah I need just a giant yeah and hunk of meat well it's also so much time, it's like three hours. I can't do it. And the waiters tell you about every single thing and it feels very like indulgent to sit somewhere for three hours and then get educated about like where a raspberry came from. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You know? I can take it with the omakase sushi, like Philip Franklin's Lee's place. Sure. That's kind of fun. You know, you watch him do it, you watch him like slice it up and put it together. It's kind of cool, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Just know what you're in for when you get there. You have conversations, there's a small amount of people so you can get to know folks. And a sushi bar is good because you don't have to talk that much. When you're directly across somebody for three hours, that's and the worst is like someone could be in the middle of some fucking horrible story then my mother came back and it was stage four oh this is a peanut right from Australia and the glaze is a demi glaze with a South France
Starting point is 00:04:00 bourbon yeah and then you have to say thank you thank Thank you so much. Hey, you fuckhead. Yeah, her mom died Yeah, why I hate people that ruin meals with real discussions about anything. That's depressing That is a problem anybody who comes out and if there's money being spent keep it to yourself Talk about things that we can all get on board. Nobody cares, you know, oh my dad's gonna beat it He's a fighter. Hey, hey, hey, not now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
Starting point is 00:04:28 the emotion dump that just like, what am I supposed to do with all this? Yeah, I have all your emotions in a pile. People talk too much about personal things. And then they expect you to offer them some degree of comfort. Right? What can you do? You can't do anything. There's nothing you can do. I'm sorry your sister has borderline personality disorder. What is that exactly? It's, it's.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Is that real? No, and it's people that just go around ruining all the relationships in their life. So it just means you're a piece of shit. Right. Which is fine, and then there's, so they just say it's, they're borderline. Right, because there's a lot of like mental things like that
Starting point is 00:05:04 that are just sort of Patterns that people fall in yeah, but you can't really indicate a pattern But can you penetrate can you medicate rudeness like some people are just rude? They're just not nice. They're not nice to waiters. They'll invent a way the pharmaceutical industry is such a profitable thing They will everything eventually will be a disease. Yeah, I'm more and more convinced in ADHD is not real I think a lot of kids have a lot of fucking energy and they're supposed to be doing other stuff Yes, we sitting at a desk all day put them in the military. Yeah, let them you know what I mean Or let them play video games for their farm. They seem to yes real fucking still when they're doing that
Starting point is 00:05:39 How come they're fully engaged when they play video games? There are people you meet I have grown friends in my life that are, you know, I'm 39 and they're in their late 30s and I'm like the best version of you is dying in the Ukraine. You should be a flag on a mantle and we should point to you and go this, he made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom and that's the best version of them. And we don't have enough wars, we don't have enough dead people. So if we have the winds, we're going to change that. We are.
Starting point is 00:06:06 If we had more wars, one thing that people would appreciate is the whole concept of America. Like if we got attacked, like after 9-11. After 9-11, I don't know where you were, but I was in LA and the fucking, well, you're a lot younger than me, but the flags on people's cars were everywhere in Los Angeles, which is crazy. It's like everyone was in Los Angeles, which is crazy. It's like everyone was super patriotic and letting people merge. I was in New York and it felt, you know, people get mad when you say this, it was the best time ever to live in America after 9-11.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It was the warmest time you felt, I never felt better about the country. We felt united. We were compassionate we Truly loved each other. I think that's how people in Israel feel every day Really? Yep. Isn't it so they go through it so much that they're desensitized to it at this point I had a kickboxing coach my friend Shuki and he was from Israel and he was always telling me like I went over his house for Dinner once and him And his wife they're playing the bongos and dancing and shit. Yeah, great time I go like this this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter
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Starting point is 00:08:55 Right, they might have had a drug problem. I don't think they were even drinking. They were just having a good time. They were happy people. Well, it was like you have an appreciation for life for life live in a war zone And I think in America where we are so removed from that that it doesn't seem real to us, right? But you and I have an appreciation for life. We're not in a fucking war zone No, so it's not the only way to have an appreciation for life. Absolutely I think you can have an appreciation for life in a myriad of ways, but I think one of the the downsides of being so
Starting point is 00:09:30 Relatively safe is that you when we talk about war it's not real, right? So you've been there unless you've been there. I have no idea I have friends that have been there they you know, And I think we talk about conflicts all over the world without the intimate knowledge of how hellish they are and how much pain is associated with someone going and fighting and dying. Or killing people. Or killing people and being scarred.
Starting point is 00:10:01 So one of the things that I think people are waking up to now is that it's you know We we can't be everywhere in every war fighting everybody and then just you know not Recognizing that that has consequences you say that but if Kamala Harris wins and Liz Cheney takes over the CIA Yeah, I might have a chance at like putting it all together. What time is it right now? 2 52.
Starting point is 00:10:27 2 52. They just called it for Kamala. And and I'm excited about it because many of us will be in jail. If you don't get excited right now, many of us will go right to jail. Right. So it's like when dear leader died
Starting point is 00:10:43 and you had to cry for six months Yeah, if you didn't cry they put you in jail. I don't think we should get nuts with the counting if it feels good If it feels good, let's just do it if it feels to me the numbers and the columns and the tabulation Kind of is a waste of time. I think we just go with whatever joy read things Whatever whatever they want. I mean, did you see Rachel Maddow calling for Elon Musk contracts to be taken away? I did it, but that's kind of makes sense I guess if you're Rachel Maddow, right? But it's the most bananas thing ever. You have literally one of the greatest geniuses in human history.
Starting point is 00:11:21 A guy who's simultaneously landing rockets, not just shooting them, but landing them, having them getting caught by robots in the sky, then you have Tesla, then you have Starlink, then you have the boring company. That guy's simultaneously running all these different fucking things. But I bet Rachel Maddow's pretty bright. But I have to send you this.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But they only care about their political opponents, I think. I think that's where we're at now, where it's like somebody might have a great talent, but if they disagree with you, you have to. I'll send it to you, Jamie. You got to see her say it because it's so unhinged. She's like, she used to be reasonable. At one point in time she was reasonable. You know, Matt Taibbi wrote a book called Hate, Inc.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I don't know if you've ever read it. It's a great book. But he basically makes the argument that Rachel Maddow is essentially Bill O'Reilly. Yeah. That they're the same person. They are. She was good friends with Roger Ailes. They had dinner all the time.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Uh-huh. Give me some volume and go full screen. If Trump doesn't win, the Defense Department and NASA are going to need a new arrangement for all their rockets. And for all the multi-billion dollar contracts Elon Musk's companies have with the US government. The US government is going to have to either, I mean, unwind from all of those contracts or Elon Musk's companies are going to have to unwind from all of those contracts or Elon Musk's companies are going to have to unwind from him. This is an untenable reality in national security terms. Now
Starting point is 00:12:54 that we know what we know about Elon Musk. What is that? What do we know? That he endorsed President Trump. That he's a fucking genius. They're very good at making enemies and then when the enemies they've made treat them Poorly, they are shocked This is what they do they they kind of bully people and they intimidate people and they threaten people and then when those people Then you know, you know go back at them or try to assert themselves in any way they're like stunned that that person has autonomy and is acting in their own interest you know this is happening over and over again but this
Starting point is 00:13:35 idea is crazy because yeah literally one of the most unique talents yeah in terms of engineering yeah terms but she doesn't understand that so that's just saying she doesn't know that right But how she thinks there's 20 people doing it? That's what's crazy But how space X has done things that have never happened before sure these these Falcon rockets landing the the catching the rockets with it like all the plans they have for all these different things the trips to Mars So that like all the plans they have for all these different things the trips to Mars no one's doing that and this idea that you have a different political philosophy or Ideology or you support a different candidate and the solution is
Starting point is 00:14:19 Get rid of the guy who's the most genius inventor perhaps of all time I recall just reading said it has to do with his supposed Conversations with Putin He had a conversation? Oh no. As of 2022. So did Tucker Carlson. Take him off Twitter. And here's the other thing. I think that from what I understand, and I've read a little bit about this, Elon refused to provide Starlink to the Ukraine because they were going to use it to attack Russia and there was going to be a dramatic escalation in the war. Right. And I think he was trying to avoid that. I think he was trying to avoid a dramatic escalation in that war. So the people that want a dramatic escalation in that war, the people that think that's a good idea, he's an enemy.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. Fucking Christ. That's something I think people should be voting on. Imagine if you put it up to vote for people, like, hey, do you guys think we should fund Ukraine to the tune of 190 billion and maybe have someone else come along and say, this is an alternative of what we could do with that money. Right. You know? There's no vote on that. There's no vote on a lot of the things that we're told to live with. There's never been a vote on immigration. There's
Starting point is 00:15:26 votes for candidates to support it or don't support it, but there's never been a vote on should we secure the southern border would unanimously be voted on and people would unanimously pretty much say absolutely. Well, how about the voter ID laws? Yeah. 84% of America think we should have voter ID. Right. Well, how about the voter ID laws? Yeah, 84% of America think we should have voter ID, right? I showed my ID today. Jamie, what's the total so far? What's the latest results? So here's what I will say
Starting point is 00:15:54 Be lied to early voting slide. Oh, it's a little early voting in Pennsylvania is down You could check this out early voting in Pennsylvania is down for Democrats 2020 you had 1.6 million registered Democrats vote early, now you had 821,000. Whereas Republicans, early voters, I think 2020 was like 547,521,000 this time meaning that the Republican early vote in PA, which is the most important state and Michigan and Georgia, is around the same as it has been. The Democratic early vote is somewhat depressed. It is not as strong as it's been. Now, I don't know if that's a pattern. I don't know if that's indicative. That just, listen, how many people have kind of quiet quit the Democratic Party?
Starting point is 00:16:41 There's tons of people. There's a lot of hidden votes. So there's people that are sick of Trump that are gonna vote for her. There's people that are sick of the Democratic Party that are gonna vote for him. And then there's probably people that are motivated by Roe, Roe v. Wade, women potentially might vote some. I think that's the Republicans biggest fuck up. It's a huge fuck up.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I think suburban women are certainly a big demographic that swings elections and How about urban women? Urban women, all women. No women don't want men telling them what the fuck to do with their bodies. That's right. Especially when men can't get pregnant. It's too fucking convenient. Well wait a minute psychopath.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Hold on. What? Wait a minute. I walked into that. do you know that they found Men as much as it does women of course right? Sure You know they found out that that boxer that won the gold medal in the Olympics is actually a man No, yes, the one that everyone was complaining was yeah was a biological male. Yeah piece of shit
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah, I have a medical condition No has a micro penis. Yeah internal testicles, right went through male puberty biological male Yeah, XY chromosome whole deal won a gold medal in the women's Olympics in boxing It's so crazy to me And I think the biggest problem is the donor class because the donor class of the Democratic Party and like Republican Party You either have people that are business owners that are donating because of business interests, or you have radicals that are donating because they are a radical activist that wants something that the American public thinks is crazy. And biological men competing in women's sports is something most people think is crazy. And 13-year-olds getting puberty-blocking hormones, 11-year 11 year old, you know all that stuff. Most people think it's crazy
Starting point is 00:18:26 But they have to just count out of this donor base That is maniacal Mononical and insane. Yeah. Yeah, it's all about money, right? It's all about money and it's the the money guys are at least like at least the billionaires will go I want to build a casino or I want to do this. I want to do that I want to pollute a lake. This isn't good, but you know where they're coming from. When you have these radical activists, they're kind of motivated by this ideology that nobody – it's a very small group of people.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Like, if you went to most people and said, do you think an 11-year-old should have a gender reassignment surgery or should take hormones to block their puberty, the vast majority of people would say no. No, they shouldn't. That's a crazy idea. But the thing is most people will say something different than they actually feel privately because they don't want to be attacked. Right. That's a weird one because the people that will attack you are almost always the people that are pro that shit have right And those are the nuttiest fucking crazy people that will misrepresent you and yeah, right
Starting point is 00:19:32 I have a friend who's you know, they have very young children. They live in Long Island And they you know, there's like a now There's a book being read about gender identity to like five and six year olds. Crazy. And I'm texting with them and they're going, we're very like liberal people, but we're really confused as to why this is happening. Well, they want activists get into schools. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:56 That's what it is. A lot of these teachers are just activists and a lot of them don't have fucking kids and a lot of them are gay or queer or trans or this or that or they're a part of the posse. A lot of them are women too. Here's the other thing. A lot of them are women or queer or trans or this or that or they're part of the posse. A lot of them are women too. Here's the other thing. A lot of them are women, not to blame women, but it's like most of this stuff isn't being
Starting point is 00:20:12 pushed. It's not like it's being pushed because a lot of people go all their groomers or pedophiles. Some of them might be, but a lot of them are just these do-gooder types that want to have metals pinned on them and ribbons pinned on them as to how great they are as people. So it's not all these female teachers, they're not all trying to have sex with your kids. They're just trying to get accolades from their peers and they want to talk about what a great person they are. So they're just like falling for anything. And they're out there distributing, you know, whatever it is, books or, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:47 telling kids because they want to be a good person. They want to feel like they're a good person. They want to be on the right side. They want to be on the right side of things. That's a good point. And they're just not, you know, I don't think they're, nobody's pushing back in a way, like there's a lot of elitism and condescension that comes from the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party used to be a party of unions, of
Starting point is 00:21:08 workers, of workers rights, and it was a party that people like my grandmother was in for years because she believed that people should be able to have health care, they should be able to have sick leave, or they should be able to have maternity care, whatever it is. But then it became a party dominated by kind of corporate elites, very wealthy donors at Wall Street people, finance people, and also very radical fringe elements that are advocating policies that most Americans don't agree with. And then you cobble together that coalition of interest groups. And the only way that works is if you condescend,
Starting point is 00:21:46 because you can't have these debates because they lose them. They lose the debates. You can't have them. So the way to shut down a debate is to tell people, if you don't agree with me, you're racist, you're homophobic, transphobic, you're an idiot, you're stupid. You're not worthy of having this discussion because they don't want to have the discussion.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Because if they wanted to have a debate about health care That's a debate right people understand that if they wanted to have a bait about like debate about early childhood education people understand that But the things they're choosing to focus on like having a wide open southern border for example Benefits nobody right truly unless you are a billionaire Multi-millionaire who wants to hire people and pay them less money It doesn't really even benefit the people that are coming into the country because they're working for wages that are far less And it certainly doesn't benefit Americans, but like they don't want to have that argument Well, it benefits the people that are coming into the country because they're coming from a place where they have fucking zero
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, so if they work for very little sure happy they attend people in a house sure they're not getting shot at every day So much more likely to be taken advantage of than somebody who's a citizen, right? So they're not gonna unionize or they're not gonna You know be able to assert themselves at all where that's the argument for offering these people amnesty But the thing is like you've got to vet them You got to figure out who's a fucking criminal. I'm all for letting poor people in that want a better life. But I'm not for illegal workers.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Meaning, I think those people should be paid what Americans are paid. I think there should be a standard on this soil. If you live in this fucking country, you should have a working wage. If you're gonna work 40 hours a fucking week, you should be able to live on it. You should have healthcare. You should have all the wage. You should, if you're going to work 40 hours a fucking week, you should be able to live on it. You should have health care.
Starting point is 00:23:26 You should have all the things that people deserve. And I think if you think about the amount of fucking money we spend doing other stuff, we could do that for everybody. Yeah. That could be done. Yeah. And it would fix a lot of the fucking problems we have with money in this country in the first place.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Like the fucking, the amount of influence that pharmaceutical drug companies have on us is bizarre. It doesn't exist anywhere else but here. I spoke to a woman who is from Chicago and she worked for very wealthy Democrat donors in Chicago when Sanders was winning. When he had won that primary. And they were very threatened by Sanders.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So she was working with all of them and they all went to DC and they all, you know, met candidates at one time they were backing Buttigieg and then they met Biden and they decided even then he was like, they go, he's not with it. This was even then. Oh, yeah. And then there was a decision made that the best candidate to play ball to unite the party and to get rid of Bernie Sanders was Joe Biden. So all of the Democratic power brokers, all these big wealthy families decided to line up and destroy Sanders and elevate Biden. And that's when she said she left politics because she said she was so disillusioned
Starting point is 00:24:46 because she thought her job was to like help wealthy people make like, you know, political decisions that helped people get healthcare or whatever. But then when she realized that the job is actually to get rid of people who want to change the status quo, she became disillusioned, she left politics. But she, that was her job. And you know, so when somebody talks like that in the
Starting point is 00:25:09 Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders was doing it, they get rid of him. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah, it's... You thought he was interesting, you endorsed him, you said he would be a very interesting candidate. Well, I liked his idea of making things easier for poor people. That's right. I think giving people a path to get out of abject poverty is a good idea. And his idea of taking and funding all these social programs based on a small percentage, like a fraction of a penny of all these speculative gambles that the stock market's doing, like maybe that would work.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But it was like, and then he came off your podcast and they go go He went on a transphobic pod like the attacks started immediately. Oh, yeah. No is I'm CNN was the first Yeah, they called the podcast racist and homophobic and all kinds of different things and I got I Found out about it because I got a text message from a buddy saying you okay I'm like well what right and they're like CNN is a they wrote a hit piece on today. I go for what? Right for Bernie Sanders, like what? So this is the you come out you endorse and a left wing candidate and even endorsement. Probably you said you liked them. I said I'll probably vote for Bernie. He's anti corporate. He's from outside
Starting point is 00:26:21 of the system. And then immediately you're attacked, they attack the podcast. And then Kamala Harris, God bless, but this woman is running on a platform of joy. Joy is important. Joy is the policy. The policy is joy. I want to take what she's taking, where you're laughing all the time. The platform is joy.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And there's people right now that can't feed their kids that are immiserated for whatever reason. They're not doing well, and they don't have health care. And she goes, be joyful, and our joy is our work. It's like crazy. It's like fully insane. And I don't understand who that connects with.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Well, it's completely manufactured. The whole thing is manufactured by the media and by whoever is running the country. Whoever's running the country, by the way, you're doing a great job considering there's no president. Right. We've had no president for months. That's right. Okay. Well, months, maybe years. Sure. But Kamala Harris has been campaigning. She has no time to be president. Joe Biden is gone. Every now and then, somehow or another, they let him wander over to a microphone. And he says wild shit like, I like to take these Republicans and smack them in the ass.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And then he puts a MAGA hat on. He's getting fun. By the way, I voted for him today. I still support him. Because he's fun now He clearly wants Trump to win. He hates her. Yeah, and he never liked the Obamas. This is well known Well, Jack post how do you say his name? Psobe I believe so big posted on Twitter. There was a physical altercation between
Starting point is 00:27:59 Jill Biden and someone from Kamala staff. I don't know if it's true, but it's fun Well, listen, Jill Biden we know is a psychopath and we know that because she's very supportive. She's encouraged her husband, who should be on a porch to run for president. It's disgusting. Jill Biden is one of the most. Yeah, I think sometimes you're like, I think it doesn't do good in the bright lights. She's one of behind closed doors, he's sharp as a tack. She's a woman who claims to be a doctor. She's not a doctor. Well, you know that.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Why? You know Jill Biden. Is she a chiropractor? No, no, no. You know Jill Biden just has a doctorate. She's not a doctor of anything. That's interesting. And she makes people call her Dr. Jill Biden.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So already she's mentally unwell. Bill Cosby had an honorary one. She's not even like a professor. Like, if you're a professor and you have a doctorate somebody might say Dr. Rogan or whatever. But this idea that she's the first lady, not a medical doctor, not a professor, and still making people call her doctor while she's doing the least doctorly thing ever, which is letting an elderly man be paraded around to try to win the presidency again is crazy. Well I think she was enjoying the power. Yeah of course.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And I think that ring is very hard. My precious. They don't want to let it go. My precious. Well she's enjoying the power, she's enjoying not going, you know maybe members of her family not being in jail. That would help. That, she's enjoying that.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Do you think he pardons his son? Because his son just got hit with a bunch of tax evasion charges. I mean, I don't know. I hope Trump pardons him and invites him into the administration. That's the ultimate win. Hunter goes and works for Trump. You know, I had a chance to have him on the podcast. No, Joe, and you didn't?
Starting point is 00:29:44 I fucked up. I fucked up. It was was early early on when he was writing a book. Remember when he wrote a book I Remember, yeah, they they reached out to get press and then the laptop story kind of blew up Oh, yeah, well, then then I was like get him on and then they were like no. No, we don't want a pre laptop You want a post laptop? This was post laptop, but they thought they had squashed it. So this is before Elon had purchased Twitter. Gotcha. Once Elon purchased Twitter and then they understood that there was a coordinated effort by 51 former intelligence agents to say that the laptop was Russian disinformation.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That's right. And then the fucking cats out of the bag and then everybody knows what's going on. Well, this is also the problem of saying that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when you have literally like credible documented examples of intelligence officials lying to the public and facing zero consequences and trying to manipulate an election. I mean, that's a huge problem. Well, Google's doing that right now. You know, have you ever seen the Robert Epstein work,
Starting point is 00:30:48 Robert Epstein's work? Robert Epstein has compiled all of the different Epstein's work. Yeah, different one. Ephemeral interactions with Google, like Google search engine results, and what you're showing on your homepage of Google news and how it influences people right and how you can sway undecideds like in a
Starting point is 00:31:11 significant way right towards one candidate or the other depending on the search results but one thing that people are pointing out on Twitter today Jamie let's see if we could replicate it why don't you Google where can I vote for Trump now if you Google where can I vote for Trump? Now if you Google where can I vote for Trump, let's see what it says. Because people, I'll show you what I saw people posting. It's mostly Harris stuff. Where can I vote for Trump?
Starting point is 00:31:35 Okay. So here it is. Look at that. Where can I vote for Harris? By the way, the first article is Esquire. There's only one reason anyone votes for Trump. It's just hilarious. So you don't see this.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Google, hold on. Slow down. Slow down. Google admits Trump Harris search for discrepancy says fix is coming. I don't know what the fuck that means. But look at the bottom. So you Googled where to vote for Trump. Scroll down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Scroll down a little bit more. Where can I Google search? Where can I vote for Harris shows right a new conspiracy theory is taking root election I click on that the variety thing So this is it. Where can I vote? Where can I vote for Harris showed a map while similar Trump search didn't so you've googled where can I vote for Trump? It didn't show the map now. Let's Google, where can I vote for Harris? Let's see what happens. Vote centers.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You just voted for her. Vote centers. By the way, that's counted as a vote. That's counted as one vote. Let's go back to the top, please, to see what the Google, okay, same thing in the New York Post, says fix is coming. Voting for Kamala Harris, Donald Trump will harm people.
Starting point is 00:32:49 So it's negative things about Trump where you get negative things about Trump. If you Google, where can I vote for Trump? You get negative things about Trump. If you Google, where can I vote for Harris? And then right away it says vote centers. First search result is vote centers after you get past the news. Fascinating. so it's true So look see how there's you don't see vote centers you see all these stories
Starting point is 00:33:12 You don't see vote centers right away when you Google where can I vote for Harris you see vote centers right away? So it's not a conspiracy theory if you could just reproduce it fuckers. Yeah There's there's clearly There's a clearly a slant with with with what you know the media and that's the other thing with a map popped up I think Trump said you know the advantage he's also running against the media and the media is terrible yeah and I think his one of his big advantages has been you know he's been able to kind of call them out successfully multiple times.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And so it's not just he's running against Kamala Harris, he's running against a hostile media that does a terrible job at reporting facts when it comes to him. Now, Donald Trump says wild shit, and a lot of it stands on its own as wild and crazy. But when they manipulate it, Piers Morgan the other night, when he goes, there'll be a bloodbath in the auto industry if I'm not elected,
Starting point is 00:34:15 and then they just say, oh, Trump, if he's not elected, there's gonna be a bloodbath. One of the reasons why I was willing to endorse him was watching Obama repeat the lie that he said that white supremacists that there's very fine people on both sides, right? Yeah That's a terrible lie. He literally says I'm not talking about white supremacists and the KKK Those people should be condemned. That's right. That's what he says. Yeah Well, and that's what I'm talking about was the people that were coming to protest the fact that a statue was being taken down.
Starting point is 00:34:46 What's interesting about Trump is- Wasn't that what it was? The statue? Yes. He was the first guy in Palm Beach, whatever you think of Trump, there's reasons to not like him, there's very legitimate reasons not to like him, but he was the first guy in Palm Beach that opened Mar-a-Lago to Jewish people, to gay people, to people of color. People were allowed, there
Starting point is 00:35:05 was all these, you know, country clubs in Palm Beach that prevented those people and now obviously people go, well he just did that for money and it's like sure, fine, whatever, but like he was the guy who did it. Right. It's not like he was short of members. Yeah. They did it for money. Like yeah. He opened the door. And you know, so to me, it's like, his one of the his biggest advantages has always been that the press cannot help themselves when it comes to him. They are rage addicts, and they like hating him and he feeds them. And they get more popular and they get bigger when he is around. Well, when he lost the election, CNN dropped 40%.
Starting point is 00:35:49 That's right. So right away, they're addicted to being in a, you know, hostile, contentious relationship with him and then misrepresent a lot of what he says. Just flat out lies. And that's a huge problem. and they can't help themselves. If they got out of the way, it would hurt him because like any politician, then you're just going to be dealing with other politicians
Starting point is 00:36:17 or your supporters or your detractors or whoever, but you have this media that's lying about you and you can constantly call it out, it helps them. I think the cat's out of the bag though with the media. Oh it's over. It's over. It's big time. I mean the the video that I did with Trump is well over a hundred million views. Yeah. Between Twitter and YouTube and Spotify, well over a hundred million. The one I did with Elon just yesterday was this morning, it had 65 million views just on Twitter. I don't wanna upstage you, the video that I did
Starting point is 00:36:52 with JD Vance got three billion views. It got three billion views. So I don't wanna upset you, but no, I mean, do you think it's going, cause me and you talked about this, I think it will be decided tonight, do you think it's going, because me and you talked about this, I think it will be decided tonight, but you think maybe not. No, not if it's close.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Interesting. I think that's when shenanigans take place. Shenanigans. If shenanigans are real, OK, if there's really there's manipulation, manipulation will take place at 4 o'clock in the morning. Interesting. Don't you think? Well. Don't you think that's when ballots show up? I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:27 if you're going to cheat, my grandmother, my grandmother died in 2017. She was a big Democrat. She had been voting lately and she voted six times for Kamala Harris. And if you think that's wrong, that's disgusting. I don't know what to tell you. That's who she would have voted for. She probably would have. Yeah. no, for her honor. Yeah. In her honor. I don't know how much fuckery is going on down at the ballot box. Probably some.
Starting point is 00:37:49 For sure. So my friend who's actually outside, but I'm not going to say his name. Say it. I don't want to hurt him. Andrew Vickers is a Boston comedian. Someone sent him a thing where there were like duplicate ballots in Georgia in 2020. Like weird stuff. Oh, there's weird stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Like really weird. Now I was a guy who was like, I bought the idea that I was like Trump lost and people wanted Biden and whatever. And maybe that is a kid, I don't know, but like there seems to be more evidence of fuckery than I was willing to, but that doesn't mean it's, there's probably fuckery than I was willing to, but that doesn't mean it's,
Starting point is 00:38:27 there's probably fuckery in every election. There's not zero. There's not zero. Right. But in every election there's something. When I asked Trump, like how do you say you lost the 2020 election? Can you prove it?
Starting point is 00:38:37 So he showed, tell me, I gave him all the room. I would have given him an hour. Yeah. Like tell me. Yeah. And he's like, there's plenty of information, they wrote a book, it's coming out. Like put it out in a digestible form. You've had four years. Maybe it's out and I don't know, I haven't seen it, no one's sent my way.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I'm willing to believe and not willing to believe we know that the tech companies and the Intel agencies all coordinated to suppress certain stories and like they all admitted that no question You know, I haven't seen the direct evidence of that selection interference. That is hugely election interference I haven't they said that would have affected millions of people's decisions. Yeah. Well, then that's a huge problem That's a giant problem You have 300 million people the elections in the counties where Biden won was by like how many votes total? I think it was like 83,000 in PA. It was very crazy. That's crazy. It was crazy. And if you imagine if 83 of those thousand people,
Starting point is 00:39:33 if just half of them got a hold of that laptop story. Yeah. And listen, I think a huge problem is that the intelligence agencies are completely unaccountable. Meaning that there's been no accountability at all for anyone who suppressed the laptop story. I mean where is this Kim Cheadle woman who, the head of the Secret Service, the craziest thing in the world. The sloped roof lady? The sloped roof. I've taken gravity b bung hits on acid on roofs that have more of a pitch than that. And I didn't fall off. I'm not exactly a Navy SEAL. And I was able to do it.
Starting point is 00:40:13 They had snipers on a similar roof that had more of a pitch to it. The whole thing is as shady as humanly possible. He was cremated. The house was... In 11 days the house was professionally scrubbed. Professionally scrubbed. and then nobody talks about it. Well did you see the cell phone data that shows that someone Was meeting up with him in the FBI or close to it. Close to the FBI offices, was meeting up with them on a regular basis. Where is this woman?
Starting point is 00:40:36 He's in a Black Rock commercial. The whole thing is weird and then Beyond. It's beyond strange. It's Lee Harvey Oswell 2024. It's fucking crazy and He has no digital footprint There's not one part. There's very few People that age that have no digital foot bread
Starting point is 00:40:52 And then if you talk about any of this or you say anything people write it off as sort of a QAnon whatever But it isn't it's valid legit and and people Normies people that don't think like this are even going, that was fucking weird. It's just weird that they never had a press conference. They never had a toxicology exam that was released. Yeah. It was not like, someone wants to shoot the president,
Starting point is 00:41:17 wouldn't you assume that person's out of their fucking mind? Maybe they're on meth, maybe we can find some sort of a reason while we feel a bit better and Then the next guy was a guy who like the three stooges a Barrel of a gun is going through the bushes on a golf course Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:37 like something out of the Marx Brothers and That guy was a guy that like CNN or MSI forget I forget which one, had been speaking to about like the Ukraine. He wrote like a song about the Ukraine and how important it was to support the Ukraine. And he was being like interviewed by the news, like a cable news, and they had a relationship with him. And imagine if Fox News had a relationship with somebody who tried to assassinate
Starting point is 00:42:04 Obama, Biden, Harris. Right. That never, you would have never heard the end of it. Right. Most people hearing this, maybe you're hearing this for the first time, but like he was, this was like a source or this guy that they kind of profiled. And you know, it came out that he was, and then his kid got busted for child porn. Wild. Just like Stephen Paddock's brother. Yes. That's what's wild
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'm just saying hey, how much do you know about the Vegas thing? Is it not enough but that's not we're checked into the room with him. I Was reading this thing the other day about how there's three unaccounted for women that apparently checked into the room with him interesting I I don't know that. But what's that Jamie? Never heard that. You never heard that? I've researched a lot. I mean there's cell phones I think that were found that were unaccounted for. He had a girlfriend that wasn't there that I think he sent to the Philippines or something like that. But that's right. Mary Lou Danly was a girlfriend who went
Starting point is 00:42:59 to the Philippines. Jamie's controlled opposition. You know you can't really get him. He's a reddit mod. mean, he's a guy, he does it. Who knows where he's... He's getting texts from Netanyahu. This guy. Comma Harrison on speed dial. Yeah, I don't know. It feels, it's an interesting day because everybody has a weird tension.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Not here. People are friendly here. But I was just in a car accident. Everyone was friendly. And the cops were, everyone was kind of friendly. But there is- Did anybody recognize you? No.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Did you wear the glasses? Yeah, there was a nice Mexican guy and it was good, like nobody- My friend, you from the Team Dylan show? Yeah, no, it was all very nice and it was nice. And that's the thing about car accidents, they can be nice. And it wasn't my car, it was kind of a rental and it was just kind of nice to meet people and be nice. And it wasn't my car, it was kind of a rental and it was just kind of nice to meet people and be out. But, you know, it is a weird, there is an interesting,
Starting point is 00:43:51 I think people just want this to be over. 100%. They need to move on. Yeah, it would be nice, no matter who wins, if we could all. Just take a breath. Let's imagine she wins, and one of the things that she has been very good about during the whole campaign is
Starting point is 00:44:07 Changing her opinions based on what people think If we can influence the president based on popular opinion, isn't that a good thing? Joe? I'm great at lying Get ready. I hate ice cream like What she's been able to do which I respect is look at the American people in line of them and that's good Or at least adjust her opinion. She's adjusting. Let's like which I respect, is look at the American people in line with them. And that's good! Or at least adjust her opinion. She's adjusting. Let's like be, you know. I agree.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Listen, I'm for- Charitable as possible. I'm charitable with her. I'm very charitable. I don't think she's like the worst. I like her. I think she's fun. I think she'd be fun to sit and have a drink with. I was really hoping I was going to get to talk to her.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I was wishing that you would too. God. I mean, it's just that the options were fly to her and meet for 45 minutes and I was like... That's not what you do. It's, you know, Elon said it best yesterday. He goes you really find out about people in hour two and three. Yeah. Yeah, like you could bullshit people for 45 minutes, an hour, two or three. Something's going to come up. Well the great thing about your show is that it's not scripted talking points where people don't come on with an agenda and go, here, I want to say this, that.
Starting point is 00:45:08 The other thing, you sit there for hours, you talk to them, you have a real conversation, and what they really think will come out. But here's the thing, I'm going to be nice to you. I'm going to be nice to Kamala Harris. I would be so friendly to her. I wouldn't try any gotcha bullshit. I'm not interested in doing that I write genuinely wanted to know if you shoot guns with a sure. Let's go shoot I'll take it as a range on this show getting high. Oh my god, smoking weed and then waving a gun around
Starting point is 00:45:36 Well, she have to wave that I vote that's you know, that's bad Gun handling of course, but it's I understand important. Don't point guns. Sure, but even when I unloaded Tim Dillon. Yeah, but it's fun. It would be fun. But here's the thing. If she did come on and just had a little cocktail. Yeah. Her and I have a couple of whiskies. Yeah. Talk a little shit. I bet she's fun. She's not much older than me. Yeah. No, she's probably fun. She probably is surprised. Pretty hot when she was younger. Yeah, sure. She's listen, attractive lady. She's probably surprised that she's running for president because they told her, you know, she probably wanted to.
Starting point is 00:46:09 There's reports that she was like, you're not going to pass me over because they wanted to. Is that what she said? Yeah, they didn't want her. And she really have that kind of say though. Yes, because she because she would have thrown a fit and said they they overlooked a woman of color or had a press conference Yes posed a lot of shit about how the machine were whatever she could have done
Starting point is 00:46:30 they didn't want to deal with that and She's been a careerist her whole life and she wanted the job and what I heard was that Joe Biden kind of forced her in No way what I heard was that they were gonna have a primary but the Joe Biden said that he endorsed her He endorsed her and then it was this weird situation where they got to kind of like run her. Interesting. By the way, I'm hearing this from fucking random people in alleyways.
Starting point is 00:46:54 We're all hearing it. I think she's a very motivated strategic person. Is there any evidence of that, Jamie? Find out if Joe Biden endorsed her, and whether or not they were going to whether or not he was made to endorse her You know, he doesn't I'll check that but there is three women supposedly with oh, oh good. I just checked this in Oh, there was yes, sir. Stephen Paddock's hotel records show you control the opposition Yeah, we are fact check by community notes six years old
Starting point is 00:47:19 While still the whole story six years old Stephen Paddock's hotel records show three women registered in his room Interesting but they could have been hoes This guy was a crazy riverboat gambler. Do you register a hooker to the room? Fuck yeah, if you're really man, if you're wild man, give him a card, especially if you don't want those ladies stealing your role That's a good point. You got a trust and Sean's trust Yeah, on skim that's wild. Oh really somebody took his Rolex And she she drugged him he was probably showing in the Rolex he probably was that dumb ass Probably not this is my dick right?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Probably not so slick. It's it's a But if you wanted to make sure they weren't stealing from you you like you have to have ID to get into have ID to Get into the room. Yeah, like yeah, cuz this guy's a riverboat gambler. This guy's a wild dude, right? He was a professional gambler professional gamblers. I think hookers and professional gamblers. Yeah, they just fucking and also he had no track record That's the other thing that paddock was interesting. He just kind of is that he's emerged right? That's interesting about these people He might have been a gambler, but they gave him credit for being like a video poker. That's where he made all his money. If you ask people that are really into gambling, like no one makes a lot of money video poker
Starting point is 00:48:34 gambling. Really? Well, there's all kinds of reports about that, that it was some weird Saudi coup that they locked down the country and the days after. I don't really know enough about it, but it was a very strange thing that has never been fully. I mean, he just shooting at a concert like what supposedly he lost his mind and then he just wanted to kill everybody. And here's the thing though. That's real too. That's real too.
Starting point is 00:49:00 That's real too. And if you really wanted to make a splash and you knew you're going to kill yourself and you were some fucking psycho and you just wanted to gun down a bunch of people. Yeah bang Let's see what's next. I you know, it's one of those things where it disappears and then The thing about all of this is the news move so quickly and so much is going on You can't it gets ha, the recollection of it. Like the Trump shooting even, the recollection will get hazy. In a few months from now, forget a few years, even in a few months, the idea of it being
Starting point is 00:49:32 a sloped roof, people don't remember. People just remember a guy climbed on a roof, they don't remember, he was 120 yards away, the Secret Service didn't clear the roof, he was walking around, people were telling them there's a guy walking around. He's creepy. He flew a drone over the area. He had a range finder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:52 All of those details that are very important. But the range finder's nuts. It's crazy. Like anybody with a range finder should be arrested. If you have a range finder and you're walking around an area where the president or a president candidate is going to be, you should be arrested. Someone should find out what you're doing what you're up to and you have explosives in the car Yeah, yeah explosives and they're sophisticated with radio controlled devices. He had remote controlled explosives. Like how is he getting that? He's 20 years old. Yeah, like what what where you what Google search do you have?
Starting point is 00:50:21 Like where are you ordering these things? How ordering these things? Are you putting them together? Yeah. Someone manufactured for you? Who did you buy it from? Where's the investigation? Nothing, nothing. There's one thing where his father is leaving a Costco. There's one video, Jamie, maybe you could pull it up,
Starting point is 00:50:41 where there's one reporter and his dad and someone in like a mask are leaving a Costco or BJs or something like that. And he's like, no comment. And he just gets into his car. That's kind of the only time I've ever seen the parent. This is the only, I think they released a statement like we're terribly blah blah blah It's also interesting. It's like some people Here it is. This is the dad. Well, this is Trump shooters dad blows off questions
Starting point is 00:51:14 Well a piece but he's there's another one where he's leaving a Costco. Let me hear him talking Yeah, that's him talking let's hear what he says I was trying to find out if that was the correct video even. Yeah, that's him talking. Let's see what he says. Is there any statement you'd be willing to share with us right now, Mr. Crooks? I got a piece of force, come quote the interesting. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't seem to be a little casual for the fact that his son just tried to kill the fucking president.
Starting point is 00:51:46 He was at Costco the week after the... He looked very calm leaving Costco and he has a full cart of food Leaving cut like it's insane. Well, not only not imagine your son is forget about the fact that tried to kill Trump He did kill someone and he shot two other people. he killed a guy who was trying to shield his wife look at this lip can you stop this for a minute who is getting that much food two weeks after your son tried to kill the president well look at the size of that fellow he has a lot of food I get it but he has a full cart and by the way he can't get anyone to go to Costco for him
Starting point is 00:52:25 He's walking around buying mini taquitos. We probably doesn't have any money. I mean, he's not a wealthy guy Right. I mean you gotta have a friend that's gonna Costco for you. That's pretty nice car. What is that? You gotta have a friend that'll go to Costco. This guy's got a full cart. What is that car? That looks like a pretty nice. This is just a weird to me It's an interesting like right after your son does this you're at Costco buying the store. With the Unibomber. Yeah with someone with some fad in a in a mask. With sunglasses on. The CIA goes well we'll take you to Costco keep your mouth shut. Yeah look at this guy with the glasses. What
Starting point is 00:53:00 is this? The hat the hood. Who's this? He's got gloves on dude. He's got gloves on so he doesn't leave fingerprints It's crazy. The guy has gloves on. It's insane. What does he have gloves on for? It's not cold out. Don't show me this guy dying Jamie can you please stop with your algorithm Jamie enough? Jamie was he was raised on Liveleak He was. Remember that? Yes, he was raised on beheading videos on Liveleak. That was back before Instagram. Yeah, nowadays. The good old days.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I've seen more people murdered over the last three years on Instagram than I have my entire life of people, psychos, sending me things in e-mail. It's crazy. Did you see that video where the kid jumps off the cruise ship and the shark gets him? It's tough out there. But you can't do dumb shit. Sometimes you do. The summer between high school and college, we all know one person who did a really dumb thing and that was it. Yeah. And sometimes you're that guy. Nobody wants to be that guy. But sometimes
Starting point is 00:53:56 you're that cautionary tale. You know, and that kid will be immortalized every time that someone, someone will go out to dinner or something to go when I was 18 we took a cruise for our high school graduation and a kid jumped off the boat and a tiger shark got him that was it. And people will talk about that and tell their kids that it's a terrible thing. In a moment you hit the water you fucking feel those teeth on your rib cage. Well I think he's treading for a minute and then you just see him kind of go under and they don't know what it is but it's probably a shark. And he voted for Kamala. So if you're telling me he's not even racist. Well Oprah, last night I'm watching
Starting point is 00:54:38 a rally and I'm watching Oprah's actor and she goes if you cast, if you don't cast a ballot for Kamala you may never be able to cast a ballot again, which seems extreme. That's so crazy. Can you get up to rally? She said that? I want you to watch this. Will.i.am is on the rally and he's doing this crazy Kamala rap and then there are these two white kids, like college kids, like awkwardly dancing to this music and then there's Doug
Starting point is 00:55:02 Emhoff and then Tim Walsh and I'm like these are the whitest people like Kamala's just surrounded by this circle of like white nerds and weird people and they're all like kind of trying to dance and it's like a really sad words Michelle Obama is just a much better speaker like Michelle Obama didn't she run I don't know why she would have won she is in a landslide when you watch her talk you go She's political talent. It's raw. It's amazing. I can deliver She didn't want to she went with it through her husband. Yeah, I'm doing that. I think she's like fuck this It's a shitty job. Not only that you don't make as much money as you do being an ex-president
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah, I think if Trump didn't have the rallies He might not want to even do it because it probably sucks once you're in there But it's probably fun to be able to go on the road. Like he goes on the road like a comedian. And he's able to kind of, you know, I bet once you get in there and you realize, oh, this is how it all works, and this is how many deals everybody has
Starting point is 00:55:55 that are preexisting, and if I touch this, this happens. If I touch that, that happens. I bet it's probably not that fun. Well, I bet it's probably fun. Well, first of all, Trump is almost 80 years old, right? He's been famous most of his life. Yeah, most of his adult life and at this point in time, you know He's not on the apprentice anymore. How's he get his jollies, right? You got a that's he's performing when he goes out and kills he kills kills his bits his kills people love it
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, yeah, he's just funny shit man And here's the thing in Andrew Sullivan who's a writer from the UK who's again not even he's a he's a he's Voting for comma, but he lives in America But he said the thing about Trump is like you can't say the rallies are not democratic They're the most democratic thing it might be he goes It's America in its foulest glory like like listen It might be crass and it might be certain parts of it might feel, you know What a vulgar or whatever but it is Democratic to have people come out to speak directly to them and then have them vote for you that is in essence Democratic
Starting point is 00:56:58 Well, you have the same thing on both sides. Yeah, you have low Information tribal voters, right? So you have low information tribal voters on the left who really do think Trump said There's very fine people on both sides and really do believe in the Russia hoax Really do believe in all that stuff and then you have people on the other side that are like ready to fucking shoot liberals That's right And they have their their signs their Trump signs electrocuted in their front yard Yeah, make sure people don't steal them And yeah, there's people that are off the rails
Starting point is 00:57:28 Tribally when you have a group and this is one I try to just If you make a group and anybody could join that group, it's gonna be infiltrated by idiots, right? 100% of the time and then those people are gonna do radical things in the name of your group And then you have the proud boys Yes, and then you have the extremes. You have people that just drift towards the extremes. And the whole premise of political life in America should be to keep people from drifting to those crazy extremes.
Starting point is 00:57:59 One hundred percent. And the more you meet people in the middle, the less they're going to do that. The more you're reasonable, instead of attacking people in this fucking crazy way where we know it's not true. I used to think Obama was the best president ever. Because Obama, I think, still to this day, the best statesman. He was the best example that you could take this guy who is from a single family. It's not like he didn't, single mom.
Starting point is 00:58:23 He didn't grow up with great privilege, obviously a brilliant guy, obviously very smart, great orator, and hey, we elected a black president. Maybe racial tensions can relax a little bit in this country, realize anybody could rise based on the merit of what they can do and who they are and what they stand for. I was like, he's the best.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Finally, I felt really good about America when Obama was the president. Honestly, I wasn't paying attention to politics back then, because I didn't understand about, he was one of the worst presidents ever in terms of going after whistleblowers. That was a part of the Hope and Change website, was that they were going to provide safety
Starting point is 00:58:59 to whistleblowers. That's not the case at all. It was one of the worst. No, Obama was an extension in many ways of the national security policies of George W. Bush Yeah, which was a You know kind of zero tolerance policy for whistleblowers and It was a you know, the government has proprietary information and you know If there's two things that were passed during his
Starting point is 00:59:26 Administration that should terrify people one of them I think NDAA was passed during his administration and the other one was the CIA's ability to use propaganda Right that the intelligence agencies are now legally allowed to lie and use propaganda and fake stories in the interest of national security Yeah, the problem really is You're taking on when you take on this behemoth, this thing that we've built. Yeah. It's very difficult to make inroads. And I wish Trump luck. I wish anyone luck that is trying to take this blob on this also unruly unelected unaccountable you don't know how to do the job you've never done it before and they don't tell you how to do the job until you get in there the no one right explains to you
Starting point is 01:00:14 what the fuck really goes on to be behind the closed doors yeah that's why you got a guy like Putin he knows how to run Russia he's been running Russia for 25 fucking years yeah this guy knows how to do that job Yeah, he's really good at like he's very good if you take a comic on the road with you and he's got to do an arena He's only been doing comedy for 10 months. Like hey, buddy Well Putin's job is to just mediate conflicts between oligarchs, which is what he does very well I think that's that's what people misunderstand about Russia. I've read a lot about Russia and poison rivals He's really he's got well, you know people get Thank you. I was so mad. They all got Russian money
Starting point is 01:00:48 They gave Tim pool and all these people Russian money. I've been defending Russia for free for two years on my show Not a dollar. Well, how did they get that money? What is the actual story behind the Russian? I don't know but it was it was it was a front group that was I guess Russia Was giving this group money and they were sponsoring these media entities that were, I don't think they even knew, I don't think the people knew that they were getting Russian money, but some of them might have been able to sniff it out. I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Here's my question. Yeah. Isn't that a way that they could compromise you without compromising you? Sure. Just say you're connected to Russian money. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. Like say if your opinion is counter to the narrative, but they sponsor you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And they give you the money and then it leaks. Thousand percent. That could have been it. It could have also been Russia doing it. It could have been us doing it. They could have killed Navalny. We could have killed Navalny. There was no reason for them to kill Navalny.
Starting point is 01:01:42 He was in a Siberian prison. We had a very... But he was an enemy of Putin, right? Wouldn't it be more logical that Putin would be in a more logical... Yeah,. He was in a Siberian prison. We had a very... But he was an enemy of Putin, right? Would it be more logical that Putin just wanted to get him whacked? No, because Navalny was never widely popular in Russia. This is a lie. Navalny was a very, you know, kind of anti-Jewish, like kind of really right-wing character, and a lot of his early
Starting point is 01:02:05 writings were about that. Then he took a trip to Germany, and then he came back incredibly progressive and very enlightened, talking about Western values. Really? So he met someone somewhere that said, actually, this is better. And he came and said, okay, and they're like, tamp down the Jew stuff. So then he goes back to Russia, you know, does all the things. He makes these documentaries that all the Putin's oligarch friends have big houses.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Can you imagine that? People that are working with the government get really rich and have big houses. This is crazy. This is only in Russia. So Navalny does this whole thing and he shows all the corruption in Russia and then our good government people go, look how corrupt Russia is. Putin's cronies get all these big houses. And Americans go, oh my God, it's so corrupt over there.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And then, you know, listen, they try to poison them. I'm not defending you saying Putin's a great guy. But this idea that, you know, we like to look at other places and identify things that we are also doing here. Well, that was one of the things that Trump said that people get very upset about. We kill people here too. So I don't want to live in Russia. I don't think Russia is a better place to live.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And I think that the childish admiration for Putin amongst some people on the right is a little silly because they wouldn't want to live there either. And they wouldn't do a they wouldn't be good to do a podcast in Russia. That being said, why are we spending billions and billions of dollars to try to drain the Russian military over a land border with the Ukraine? We have zero. And the reason is BlackRock and all these companies are being promised a lot of land in the Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:03:35 They're being promised all, you know, Ukraine's a breadbasket of Europe. There's tons of agricultural land. A lot of it has a ton of it. There's minerals. Yeah. Lindsey Graham, I mean, Jamie probably probably has that that quote where Lindsey Graham literally said the quiet part out loud where he said they've got all these Minerals, we can't let Putin get that money says Lindsey Graham We can't let Putin get that money and he says it is my favorite and he says it and
Starting point is 01:03:59 He's saying it out loud. And so a lot of people are just like listen And and the Navalny thing happened when we had a bill that was I think it was a $60 billion bill for the Russian Ukraine war that wasn't incredibly popular, people were getting sick of it. And then when Navalny died, and again, I don't know who did it. But when he died, there was a renewed, you see, look how bad. Don't you see why we need this money? Look how terrible this person is.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So it would have been a weird time for Putin to kill him. It wouldn't have made any sense. Putin's aware that we have a bill on deck. There's something crazy about Putin killing him exactly at that time. Let me hear Lindsey Graham talk. Let me hear him talk. I am for Ukraine support. We can't pull the plug on Ukraine, let Putin get away with this.
Starting point is 01:04:56 We need to be all in with the goal of allowing Ukraine to evict the Russians. Pause for a second. Tell me you couldn't picture that guy with a ball gag and like I mean it's type That's the least of what he has but Jamie there's another thing where he literally talked about the minerals the rare earth Minerals that are in the Ukraine, which is the entire reason it's like my I put it on my Instagram It's like it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen Yeah, this one right here Ukraine sits on go back up to the top where it's at. They're sitting on trillion dollars.
Starting point is 01:05:29 It could be good to our economy. So I want to keep helping our friends in Ukraine. They're sitting on 10 to 12 trillion dollars of critical minerals in in Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China if we help Ukraine now They can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of there we go pause how crazy is that guy crazy is his job? Yeah International fuckery yeah money
Starting point is 01:06:00 I would imagine something I should have been is he's a kind of a closeted gay supervillain, which seems like a fun thing to be. Why would we let Putin get that money? Is he supposed to be married? Isn't he married? Find out. But I mean, it's a fun thing. There's something funny about a feminine male warmonger. Oh, he's a gay supervillain, which is great.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Let Putin get that money. That'd be the best business partners we've ever had. Trillions and trillions of dollars in minerals. I love pussy. Trillions of minerals in that Ukraine's wet pussy. Ukrainian pussy, something. It's crazy, but then you think about it, and there's all these young Ukrainian men and Russian men who are dying in this war
Starting point is 01:06:48 Because we've consistently told them not to make peace and that's the dark part of it He's never been married has no children interesting. Oh interesting. He was close friends with John McCain. What's that supposed to mean? Well, you why you throw him a cane under the bus. He's dead He can't defend himself Lindsey Graham is a fun gay super villain and you need that You need it Because and it just made his way up the ladder He just made his way up the ladder like those guys are just like different kinds of people and I think that's what most Normal people who live normal lives have a hard time understanding
Starting point is 01:07:20 Because if you are a guy who works at a fucking auto repair shop You have no relationships at all with people like Lindsey Graham. You don't even think they exist You know, it's like you know what it's like when well, let me tell you you don't have kids but if when you have kids one things that happens is you you go to these things where you have to hang out with parents and The only things that you and the parents have in common is that you both have kids. And so you have these fucking agonizing conversations. And then you realize, oh, these people don't know any fun people. They don't have anyone in their life that lives a fun life.
Starting point is 01:07:58 And they start asking questions like, how do you come up with your jokes? Like, when you, how do you make your podcast? Who are you talking to? How do you get these people to come on? Like, what do you do? Like, how'd you come up with your jokes like when you how do you make your podcast who you're talking to? What do you get these people to come on like what I do it How'd you get into the UFC like all that stupid shit, but it's like they don't know anybody who's living a weird life, right? We don't know anybody who's living that weird life that weird Lindsey Graham life We're all huddled up together wearing fucking suits and yeah eyes and you're in these like these halls of justice They're wearing fucking suits and ties and you're in these like these halls of justice these important you're in the Senate room you're in this room where everybody stands
Starting point is 01:08:30 up and claps when the president says the most mundane shit. Well it's also that political that that that political that survival instinct. It seems like somebody has you know decades of being in that position. I'm thinking about running. Oh it's a lot of fun. What do you think is a bit of Congressperson? That probably can't you got to go governor governor executive what state let me get up fuck. What is this? You're reliving it. No, I would never run against Abbott. I love that guy
Starting point is 01:08:55 How about right then and there you can't if you're not cut out for it? Yeah, I got a move not cut out No, I am I am I'll do it a different way. I'm gonna move somewhere you talk Nah, I am I am I'll do it a different way. I'm gonna I gotta move somewhere Become a Mormon and I would have a lot of fun I think about it cuz I like DC and I think it might be fun for a few weeks to be like a press secretary That would be great. I bet those people party they pull of course they party. I bet they party hard They party in ways that are probably too hard, you know Documentaries about how hard they party. Did I tell you one night that I went out with Dave Chappelle in Denver? Did I ever tell you this story?
Starting point is 01:09:30 Yeah, it was like the wildest thing ever. Well, it's like he knew these after hours places. It was like a scene in John Wick. We went through an alleyway, we went through this big door into some fucking warehouse, and then there was this bar, this beautifully appointed bar where the guy was wearing a fucking tuxedo shirt with a vest on and the woman was beautiful and there was no one in the bar. There was me and Dave Chappelle and a few other people and they kicked us out because
Starting point is 01:09:59 Dave sparked up a joint. Oh that's so funny. And then he took me to another place that was crazy. But it's like, he knows places where you can go and be private, because he's stupid famous. Of course. So when you're a fucking politician, and you're a part of an industry that has existed in these shadows for decades, doing things outside of the public's knowledge, the full integration of the intelligence agencies in the deep state and everybody's got dirt on everybody and there's madams and fucking all kinds of hookers and crazy shit going on. Right. You know, so many people make it through that are like the Andrew,
Starting point is 01:10:34 the Anthony Wiener guy, absolute freaks. Yeah. And they're in there. They're in there deep. So this, it's not just one of those. There's probably a fucking shitload of them. It's an economy. They keep each other's secrets. And they probably get together, and they put on masks and fuck each other, just like eyes wide shut. It's probably real. It's probably, otherwise, what are they doing it for?
Starting point is 01:10:55 That's a good point. What is the point? How do you let your hair down? Well, that's the whole thing with the Obama chef. People go, oh, the chef. And I go, if you can't drown your lover in Martha's Vineyard why do anything right why the president what the fuck is the point I mean truly think about leaders throughout history what is the point of
Starting point is 01:11:13 not being able to kill your lover in two feet of water when he's great swimmer he's a great swimmer and very fit and none of it made any sense but it's like that's the whole point it's like What happened to that investigation? There will never be one weird. There's never gonna be one because At the end of the day, I don't think America really wants to know I Don't think they want I think Tucker Carlson wasn't no Tucker might He's maybe one guy that wants to know but even him does he really want to know it's that's all thing It's like a guy on that claims he sucked Obamaama's dick. I know that's they talked for an hour. I know But that's the thing it's like I I think that
Starting point is 01:11:54 There's a deep deep misunderstanding Of what this place is and it's not only Uh, you know, it's not only like crazy odds of sex parties and stuff like that, but we're doing a lot of things all over the world that people don't really know about.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Nobody's abreast of what we're doing. We're doing things in Africa, we're doing things here, we're doing things there. We've got things in Africa. We're doing things here. We're doing things there. We've got a lot of we got footprint everywhere We're backing people that Sometimes are good people we align with our values a lot of times They're not right like the whole Israel Gaza thing is a big Problem for Harris it's a major issue for her in Michigan and
Starting point is 01:12:43 if It's a major issue for her in Michigan. And if... Interesting. Yeah, it's big. Did you see the reports that she was running two separate messages to two separate places? She was running a pro-Israel message to one place and CNN called her out on it. And running a pro-Palestine message to another place? A lot of them do. That's what they do. But that's crazy that people people are not gonna check. It's crazy that CNN called around.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Do I have hope for CNN? Like I think I do. I think CNN probably recognizes, hey, we have to actually just say the fucking news, except for all pharmaceutical drugs. But everything else, just say the news. And I don't know what Trump will do in that situation with the Israelis.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I hope Milan buys CNN. I hope that we don't invade Iran. I should have asked him yesterday if he was going to buy CNN. That would be amazing. Imagine if Elon bought CNN. Is he going to buy CNN? Does CNN make any money? It's worth a lot of money. Is it? Yeah, because you think about the money that they generate through advertising. But it's all the pharmaceutical ad. That's the problem. So if he buys CNN. That's not all, but it's a large chunk. But the thing is, that money is real money. That's what keeps them afloat.
Starting point is 01:13:52 If their numbers, if they had exists on YouTube, like if CNN's numbers existed on YouTube, there's no way they'd be able to support a giant fucking building filled with employees. Wouldn't he be beholden to the same corporate advertisers that hold everybody hostage That's meaning like the made the biggest advertiser in all of these cable networks is pharmaceutical companies because they're all the Demographic is geriatric people watching them
Starting point is 01:14:16 Well, the problem is that you can advertise a pharmaceutical drug companies in this country and only two countries in the world allow it us In New Zealand and New Zealand's more restrictive than the United States like have You ever watch the ads on Fox News. It's crazy. It's all like life alert. It's like fall down in the shower Pharmaceuticals Fox News if you think about it the demographics older scared white people That's that's right. Think about what I think of Fox News. Yes I guess you just gotta find a way to make it profitable without those types of ads or or way to make it profitable without those types of ads or those companies have to let you This is my point.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I think it's a Ponzi scheme. I don't think it is profitable without those kinds of ads. No, it won't be. Because it's not profitable based on the viewership, right? So you can get major advertisers who are willing to spend a lot of money for the prestige of being on CNN. There's something to that. You know, like an ad on CNN maybe means more than an ad on YouTube, but the reality is if you look at the actual
Starting point is 01:15:08 numbers, like how much revenue you're generating for your company, unless you are engaged purely in propaganda. And this is the argument. So like, what was the quote that someone said to us the other day about how, it was Callie Means, said how much the pharmaceutical drug companies spend on advertising every year and it's Billions of dollars just on ads billions and billions of dollars. I think it was it eight or 80 What did he say it was? Jamie'll find it but gotta be crazy It's an insane amount of money
Starting point is 01:15:41 But that money is not making them money in terms of so many people are seeing those ads are going Out and buying drugs what that is doing is it's an ensuring that there's no criticism It's ensuring that you don't question any narratives. That's right that all the Robert F. Kennedy jr. Types they all get demonized. They all get called kooks They all get called dangerous anti-science people by the way I'm excited, you know if Trump wins I'm excited to see if RFK really gets to like start doing stuff. Look at that number.
Starting point is 01:16:12 2023, pharmaceutical industry spent around 15.58 billion in advertising. $15 billion in ads. That is crazy. That's so much fucking money, man. Well How are people gonna know about the drugs? It's not that man I don't think that I think it's a little bit of that because it normalizes it it gets the words out You know what we also don't have them. We don't have a functioning health care system, right? So it's not supposed to be like a grocery store where you pick the drug. If you have a good doctor, you can have a functioning healthcare system.
Starting point is 01:16:48 You gotta have some cash. That's the problem. It's like we have everything's for profit. Everything's like, there's a million. You ever go to a pharmacy in like a Scandinavian country? There's like 12 things. Yes. They don't have like, our pharmacies are,
Starting point is 01:17:01 there's aisles and it's like a grocery store of all kinds of different shit. It's just a real problem when you allow people to profit wildly off of people being sick. Then they have a vested interest in people staying sick. Whether it's mental illness, physical illness, whatever it is. What about RFK, do you think?
Starting point is 01:17:18 It would be interesting to see him, because he's, for a long time, he's been an advocate on behalf of not only you know obviously environmental stuff that's well-known but like public health yes so be interesting to see like what 100% first of all why do we have fluoride in our fucking water yeah that's one of things that they're talking about that are British people's teeth are gross yeah brush your fucking teeth is that why yeah but they have fucked up. Is that why? Yeah. But they have fucked up teeth.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I think part of the reason why they have fucked up teeth, they ate a lot of soft foods for generations after generation after generation. Isn't that the fluoride though that doesn't mangle? Well, fluoride does have a reaction to your teeth, but I mean, you're swallowing it. So how much of an effect is it? And also, it's really bad. It's bad for IQs.
Starting point is 01:18:02 There's a direct correlation between high levels of fluoride in drinking water and low IQs in children. There's a corresponding number, depending upon the amount of fluoride in the water. I think the whole way they found this out about fluoride in teeth, I think it had to do with natural fluoride, and I think it all began in Texas. What is fluoride? Fluoride is a mineral. And fluoride is also a neurotoxin, like at certain levels, like depending on how much. But the point is, the corresponding increase
Starting point is 01:18:32 in sugar consumption is not taken into consideration when people are looking at when they started, people started getting tooth decay. And like whether or not they had fluoride in the water. Like we went, there's a time in our history where all the sudden Massive amounts of processed food and sugar are introduced into our diet like whatever it is 70s 80s whatever year It was where sugary cereals and do fucking cookies candy bars just became Everywhere that's when people started getting more cavities
Starting point is 01:19:01 That's also when people start experiencing all these health problems. All that stuff is together. Chronic diseases and autoimmune conditions. The solution is not put fucking fluoride in the water. That's like saying, oh, some people get skin cancer. Let's put sunscreen in the apples. No, hey, you fucking idiot. First of all, you can have toothpaste with fluoride in it, if you so choose.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Mine doesn't have fluoride in it. I haven't had fluoride toothpaste for fucking years. I don't have any cavities. You know why I brush my teeth Where is all this non fluoride toothpick? Can you share it with some of us? Tom's of Maine. Oh, Tom's of Maine. It's good stuff There's a lot of companies that sell and Eddie Bravo had a really good point believe it or not Eddie Bravo had a really good Point that wasn't crazy. He said why would they say? fluoride free in a toothpaste
Starting point is 01:19:46 if fluoride wasn't potentially bad for you? Why would anybody want fluoride-free toothpaste? If fluoride was really the active ingredient that was preventing you from having tooth decay. Well, it's also when I saw like Doug Amhoff at Wada Burger or Trump at McDonald's, I was like, we shouldn't have these politicians be in these, they're kind of like poison factories.
Starting point is 01:20:03 We should have politicians, that's like kind of showing up to a Marlboro factory and lighting up like there's something weird to me about yes but yeah yes but I eat McDonald's I'm on the road I like you know you have to stop comparing yourself to like other people because like you have a tremendous amount of discipline and it's like the nine-year-old getting fat at McDonald's is not going to be able so I'm just like this celebration of fast food and I love fast food and I was raised on it my family raised me on it thanks like when you see politicians going in there it is a weird feeling it is weird it's like odd to see that yeah
Starting point is 01:20:42 I but I liken it to being at a Coca-Cola factory I don't have a problem. That's bad, too I know but I think again our you know, it's gonna send the military into these places Taco Bell Denny's nice they fucked us all up. I say Taco Bell now has the Mexi melt is back. Did you know that? Bell is it's Did you know that Taco Bell? I didn't even know what the Mexi Melt is. Well, it's on the decades menu.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Taco Bell is bringing back things from previous decades. And they've brought the Mexi Melt back. They're fucking, because Ozempi and all this shit hit. And now Fast Food's doubling down. Because Fast Food's going, fuck me, fuck you. They're going to start to bring back shit. This is now coming back. Those look good That is the least Mexican of all Mexican foods. Yeah. No, it is nothing to do in Mexico
Starting point is 01:21:31 It's just fast food will not go away quietly. They think they're gonna all we're gonna bring in these drugs fast foods Like you'll see what we'll do. Yeah, that's fine. Let them do it. I'm fine with that. No one's gonna mandate Taco Bell That's the thing but there is you know something you go to Australia And it's an anti-state nobody's allowed to do anything, but you know what they all they're kind of hot all of them No, no, we got they have grass-fed beef and their burgers I know my buddy Adam came over here, and he had a he always gets a quarter pounder with cheese Yeah, Australia, whatever the fuck they call it and he said he goes dude. I had one over here. It tastes like cardboard It was fucking terrible right he goes back home. It tastes like cardboard. It was fucking terrible.
Starting point is 01:22:05 He goes back home. It's like fresh grass-fed beef. Well, also, they'll pull you over. If you're driving in Australia, they just have Dewey checkpoints no matter who you are. And you'll just go through them and blow. And obviously, I'm against that because I think it's like infringing on your freedom.
Starting point is 01:22:18 But they love it there. Well, they don't have guns. They go, we love it. And they go, we feel safe. But also, they've just accepted it. Well, they've gotten accustomed to it. But they didn't used to be like that. They go, we love it. And they go, we feel safe. But it's also, they've just accepted it. Well, they've gotten accustomed to it. But they didn't used to be like that. It's literally a prison colony.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Yeah, but they don't care. That's the thing. But they do. Do they? They do. They're very upset. I've talked to Australians, and they're happy with it. My buddy wants to move here.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Of course he does, because he's your buddy. But most of them are not that bothered by it. They don't care. I wonder if that's true. Yeah, I just don't care. I wonder if that's true. Yeah, I just don't know. I think it's their reality. It's the reality that they live in and you could... Because they look at us and they go, you guys have school shootings, you have poison food,
Starting point is 01:22:55 and you... great. You get to work and drop dead and all that stuff. We are yes, we are nannied, which I would never want to live there. But I don't know, I talk to people there, they go, yeah, they're nannied. They don't let us do things. Like, they regulate the food, or they have the DUI checkpoints, but they kind of, I don't know, they kind of accept it. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:23:13 This is probably a trade-off if it doesn't get out of line. Sure. You know, like, you don't want people driving drunk. And if you just had DUI checkpoints everywhere. And they all drink. They're all drunk. Yeah. That's the difference. But if you had those DUI checkpoints all over the place and
Starting point is 01:23:27 people just accept it as a part of life, how much of DUIs would drop? A ton. A ton. But I still hate the idea of it because I'm an American and we're Americans. Well especially if you're not... here's the thing, like you can piss or a blow hot for like a drink and a half, right? What's the tolerance? I've gotten in more accidents, car accidents sober than I did drunk. I drove drunk for many years, never hurt anyone. I got in an accident today, completely sober, rushing to get here. Was it your fault though? Yeah, it was. I kind of crossed into a lane I shouldn't have, but it was just tires. It was
Starting point is 01:24:00 a quick thing. It was a lovely man. Everybody was fine and he'll sue me later I'll sue him back Who cares? You know what? Nothing matters. Everyone's fine. That's the thing about America It doesn't matter you can just sue people and they'll sue you back and then lawyers figure it out, bro If you go to court in those sunglasses, you're gonna lose I may lose doesn't matter. I'll just make more money Where'd you get these? I got him at Louis Vuitton. I was fucking great. They're sick I figured I'd show up with a good. Tell me if I could pull these off. Absolutely. You did it You should have endorsed Trump in those they are sick They're sick Austin shout out to the domain. I'm gonna have to buy a pair of these. Can you send me a link? They're great
Starting point is 01:24:48 Send me a link before I forget send him a link. I'm gonna get a pair of those. How do you, so you think it, does anyone concede tonight? Does anyone have a victory speech? No, I think it takes days. North Carolina is the first to call, they say. What was the longest one was the dangling Chad. Yeah, that was two months, it was hilarious. SNL was doing really funny stuff. That was when Will Farrell was Bush. Did you hear what happened with SNL with her? So they should have given him equal time. So they have to run ads for him now. That is really funny. They had to run like some 90 second ad. Is that true? Find out if that's true. Is it true? Yeah. I read it on Twitter, but you know, could be some Chinese bot plant planting stuff in my feed. So I say stupid things. They're watching our election. 100% He's watching like this, like, ah,
Starting point is 01:25:35 imagine voting, right? Imagine just let these fucking dumb asses pick who gets to run the military. I want to go there so bad. Have you ever gone there? No. No, I went to Taiwan once. But it was a stopover on the way to Thailand. Do you like the idea of China? Like, I don't mean do you like the idea of China, but like visiting it. Yeah, I would love to visit it. It's fascinating, right?
Starting point is 01:25:55 I would love to see the Great Wall. Well, you're into that, ancient cultures. And I would love to go to Mongolia. Elk hunting in Mongolia is a big thing. There's a lot of elk hunters go to Mongolia. The elk hunting in Mongolia is a big thing. Like, there's a lot of elk hunters go to Mongolia. Mongolia has a large elk population, and a lot of people aren't voting. What is this? Someone's in trouble here, right?
Starting point is 01:26:15 Well, not quite. In a statement to Hollywood, FCC reportably claimed that Brendan's statement does not reflect their views on the appearance. Oh, who's Brendan? He's the guy who was tweeting at Hoots. He's one of the five members of the FCC. Okay. So the agency added, they had not made any determination regarding political programming
Starting point is 01:26:32 rules nor have we received a complaint from any interested parties. Here's my take on it. You can't do a sketch on Saturday Night Live if that's promoting a candidate. Like you have to have equal time. Why do they have to do that but we don't? Why is that? They're governed by the FCC, right? How crazy is that?
Starting point is 01:26:55 Yeah. Think about that. If I just decided, you know what, I don't want to interview Kamala. I only want to hear one side of the story. Yeah. I don't want to hear Tim Walsh. I only want to hear JD Vance. If I just decided to do that, I could do that. Right. Which is kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Right. If it's the number one podcast on earth. Like why, why am I, why am I even allowed to do that? Because you're, you're not on government regulated airwaves. Right. That's my point. Why is the government? Well, we don't, we don't want that. Let's not, let's not ask why. But we don't want them coming in. Well, we don't want that. Let's not ask why. We don't want them coming in. Well, they shouldn't be doing anywhere. They shouldn't be anywhere. You should be looking at whatever the fuck you want. I'm more for that.
Starting point is 01:27:31 But here's the thing. Coming into this space. But why is it okay to regulate in that regard, but you're not regulating the percentage of positive versus negative news stories? You're choosing. Sure. Choosing. I always thought the regulation was just like no tits you're choosing. Sure. Choosing. I always thought the regulation was just like,
Starting point is 01:27:46 no tits until 9 p.m. But it's like the rules of equal air time. Remember when Sipowicz showed his ass on NYPD Blue, like that was a big deal. That was a big deal. That was a big deal, Dennis France. Like I thought it was that. Did they say bullshit once too?
Starting point is 01:27:59 That was a big deal? That was a big deal. I didn't bullshit on TV. Yeah, I didn't realize it was like, like it was equal time. But I mean, that makes a lot of sense. Well, I think Stan Hope had an issue with that when he was fake running for president.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Cause Stan Hope said, I'm gonna have to stop doing shows because shows almost count as like a campaign speech. And you have to offer the opposing side equal time or something along those lines. Yeah, like I think there's laws and we should call them. Call them. Call Stan Hope. That's crazy. Yeah, that's interesting. All right, let's see. Let's see what he has to say.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Because he actually, ah shit. Stan Hope, what are you doing? He, oh, he's got a different number. Hold on a second. Stan Hope. Oh. Call Stan Hope Batphone. That's the real one. He's got a Batphone. I love a good Batphone. God, I hope he picks up. He's probably drinking, staring at the TV right now yelling things smoking cigarettes Fuck my call back I'll text him but that's interesting because there are all these rules
Starting point is 01:29:18 that work kind of you know somewhat familiar with that govern the whole thing yeah that you're you're allowed to do this Douglas I'm live on the air with Tim Dillon call me as soon as you see this I have a question about when you ran for president Jamie what about the exit polls? Is there an exit poll? Are you are you anxiety ridden? until the things closes. Are you anxiety ridden? No I don't think so. Are you worried at all about this? I mean about the election? Not in general. Not really. I got more anxiety about other things in the election. What's the big thing? Well
Starting point is 01:29:53 we all Google weird diseases and shit. Yeah I don't do that. You know? Well I mean come on Tim let me get you healthy. It has nothing to do with that. Weird diseases attack healthy people all the time. Oh, you mean like Ebola type stuff? Well, the stuff that you people just get stuff. Oh. Nobody can do sit ups to the brain, so a brain tumor doesn't happen. You might be able to.
Starting point is 01:30:12 No, you can't. I think I'm gonna pull that off. You think so, and that makes you feel good, but that's great. Yeah, I feel great. That's great. You wanna live for 300 years? For what?
Starting point is 01:30:20 That's the whole thing. I'm enjoying myself. No, I'm enjoying myself too, but you wanna live through the Jake Paul administration? Like, what? Dude, I I'm enjoying myself. I'm enjoying myself to be what you want to live through the Jake Paul administration Like I'm gonna be it's 82 degrees in New York Paul running. Yeah, it's 82 degrees in New York City right now It's I don't know it matters who wins the election worse than yeah, what's yeah minus 82 degrees Everybody's scared of global warming. Listen. You don't want the fucking ice age Nobody wants the ice yeah, but these fucking eggheads want to spray shit in the sky to protect no no sun's rays
Starting point is 01:30:52 Well nobody wants that and it just feels like eventually the planet will expel us You don't think so no The only thing that's gonna happen to us look the planet could fuck us up if the planet hits us with, the big one that could get us for sure, oh, I'm on Do Not Disturb, hold on a second here. The big one that could get us for sure is asteroid. It's an asteroid, yeah. Or super volcano.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Either one of those could really, really fuck us up because those are real and those happen all the fucking time. So that's our number one problem is a natural disaster. A supernova in a nearby galaxy would kill us Any sort of like real? Blast from the Sun would wipe out all our communication system in our grid There's there's things that have definitely happened in the past that if they happen today
Starting point is 01:31:37 We'd be fucked, but I think our biggest threat is us I think our biggest threat is these crazy motherfuckers that are making all sorts of money off of war and they keep pushing these agendas in these countries and they're pushing international conflict that we're all involved in. And it's nuts and I don't think it's going to last much longer. I think that's where they're getting hyper focused on getting things done right now. I don't think you're going to be able to do this when you have sentient artificial intelligence. I think that is the end of all that. That's the end of all this global thermonuclear war. That shit's all going to go away. I think what they're doing right now is this mad dash to control as much resources and power and money as possible before the entire fucking world changes and
Starting point is 01:32:20 you have robot aliens living amongst us. Elon said yesterday that he thinks that, what year did he say, how many years, 20 years from now? There'll be more robots in Earth than there will people, or in America. Wait a minute, hold on. More robots than people. In 20 years? What was the year, what was the timeline he gave us?
Starting point is 01:32:38 He said 10 to 20 or something. 10 to 20 years, there will be more robots. Does he mean like a... Like Tesla robots, he's robots he's making. I said, and I was like, imagine if you just robot bodyguards You walk down the street. You got two terminators with you. Yeah Him doing all the robot like let's bring all the better than a lot of other people doing it Yeah, he's a moral and ethical about these ideas. He's one of the first people to sound the alarm about artificial intelligence
Starting point is 01:33:01 That's good. That's important He was like you're you're're going to make our successor. And these fucking people are just running towards this cliff. And no one knows where it takes us. But he believes that we've got to merge, right? Well, he believes now, because he's running his own AI, the large language model that they use for Twitter, Grok. And he's got another startup he's involved with, with NVIDIA.
Starting point is 01:33:22 I think he feels like he got it was an early investor in open AI and I think he's suing them right now because it's not it's not open AI anymore now it's a private company it's the whole situation with whether or not they've achieved artificial sentience came up yeah remember when they kicked out Sam Altman for a little bit and they brought him right back in like what the fuck everyone's like What the fuck are you doing? I don't know what was going on there. What explanation but he's He's worried that there's a race going on if the wrong people win that race It's it's terrifying we're fucked if China wins that race and China apparently
Starting point is 01:33:59 Whether it's open AI or one of these companies There was some sort of a leak or some sort of Break-in or they believe that someone had access to their information Yeah, see if you can find what that is whether it's China that they think some scary to imagine the wrong people Exactly having that power exactly exactly Yeah, it's for any group of people having any group of people the wrong people because the right people will be... Can fuck up. And they're also... it's absolute power. Hackers stole open AI secrets, raising fears that China could too.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Security Beach, the maker of ChatGBT, last year revealed internal discussions among researchers and other employees, but not the code behind open AI systems. Okay. So they didn't get the code code but they got internal discussions. But those internal discussions may have had clues as to like what direction the technology is headed and maybe solve some puzzles that they didn't know yet. Who knows if that's all they got because there was speculation that they got other things. China's done a wonderful job of infiltrating stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:08 One of the things that Mike Baker pointed out is that there's a nuclear facility or rather a military facility that is in, I think, Wyoming and all around the area. The cell phone towers were all sold to America by the Chinese. They just make deals with like, we'll sell you cheaper stuff. There was a surveillance apparatus built in America that the Chinese backed or it and now they are using some of it. Let me tell you what happened in Austin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Let me tell you what happened in Austin at Formula One. My buddy Bobby owns that racetrack. So I was there with him and he shows me this picture. He says, you know what this is? I go, what is it? And he goes, someone attached a device to our broadband, to our Wi-Fi, where it was siphoning up people's data. Like someone had attached, they found it and they got it and they called whoever it is,
Starting point is 01:36:00 Homeland Security or whatever the fuck it is. So if you go to like a big event and you're using the open Wi-Fi, there's a real chance that someone has set up a thing where they're going to siphon up all that data and who knows what the fuck they're going to use it for. Whether they're getting your passwords to your credit card account or whether they're getting this or that or passwords to social media sites, emails, whatever the fuck they're getting. But if you're just willy-nilly using a VPN or not using a VPN and going and getting on Wi-Fi in some place, like you run the real risk of actually being
Starting point is 01:36:34 compromised. And like what are they getting? Like what are they doing with all that stuff? I don't know, but if you sell, if you're a hostile government and you sell cell phone towers to your enemy yeah no it's crazy and you just got these dudes who just contractors who are working for the government they're not like the the most sophisticated of investigative reporters it's just a guy who has a job he has to buy a certain amount of these cell phone towers China will sell them to us for this while we can buy from these other companies for a lot more. Let's just get it from China. And next thing you know
Starting point is 01:37:08 they can drop in on any kind of information that they want. Who knows? There could be a third-party access that no one is available, no one is aware of until they activate it. Yeah. They could just decide to shut all these things down. They might have a kill switch in them. But you're buying like that's why they banned Huawei. They banned Huawei because they found compromises in their networks. And then they knew that the company was aligned with the Chinese government. They're like, hey, you got to get out of here. They're very good at it. It's corporate espionage. They're incredibly good at it. They've been
Starting point is 01:37:39 good at it for decades. They're the best at it. But we do it too. Yeah, that's the thing like Trump was right Like we do it too. What did Huawei get popped for Jamie? Because I was mad because this is back when I was using Android and I wanted a Huawei phone because while we should just give it To them. They made the best phone. Let's just give it to them in my way meaning like You know, it's like All this data. They're trying to just give it to them. What are they gonna do with it? Well I mean they're stealing, they're stealing stuff let's just give them the patents. They've been banned or restricted in multiple countries due to the security concerns. Huawei was added to the US Export Administration's
Starting point is 01:38:14 regulations entity list which made it harder for the company to obtain parts from US suppliers in 2022. The US banned the sale and import of new Huawei communications equipment due to national security concerns.S. banned the sale and import of new Huawei communications equipment due to national security concerns. So what were the concerns though? I think that like they have to report back to like. It's also like TikTok is a problem, but it makes so much money that we'll just constantly. We make money from TikTok too, right?
Starting point is 01:38:38 No, of course. There's a TikTok office in Austin. But that's the thing that China realizes that if you can make, if Americans make money, they're never going to care. Some lady was heckling me at a show here. She said she worked for tick tock. Oh, yeah. It was hilarious. US ban the sale and import of new communications equipment from five Chinese companies including Huawei and ZTE amid concerns over national security. What did they do though? What did they do? I think there was something to do with routers.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Huawei and others have previously denied supplying data to the Chinese government. Yeah, there was something about Wi-Fi routers and different things that they thought could be spied upon. 5G networks. And yeah, for 5G in other countries. I don't know, but they used to make dope Well, they probably still do they made dope phones There was this Porsche design Collaborated with Huawei and made like the best cell phone and I was trying to buy it and then I found out you can't buy it
Starting point is 01:39:34 In America tomorrow. What? And that's that's when I started looking into it. So it's like 2021 or something like that whenever it was What was the year the band was put in place? Trifold yeah, it's badass. That's what I'm saying. Just get it. We're getting it. Just get it. You just can't use it. Why? You could use it on Wi-Fi here, but like you couldn't connect it to a cell network. It won't do all the stuff. Well, it doesn't even use Google. They don't use the Android operating system. I want a Chinese phone. Do you know that? Like China got they they stopped using that because Huawei got banned from Google find out if that's true Huawei they weren't allowed to use the Android operating system anymore either isn't it a good talk that is different in China
Starting point is 01:40:17 yes yes yeah very different oh wait it says it still runs Android 10 but doesn't support Google apps and services right Right why did they do that? Why'd they ban them from Google apps and services? There must have been some sneaky shit they had of course. Yeah it's just hilarious but there's other Chinese companies like One makes great phones. Yeah. I believe that's a Chinese company. You know there's like there's a bunch of phone manufacturers. We're just in this globalized world now where you just, this is inevitable. Well, we're in a globalized world where China is making some things better than we are. Yeah, same reasons.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Yeah. Spying concerns. You just have to keep, stay as vigilant as you can to try to prevent this from happening, but they're very good at it and it seems like that's not going to stop. Well, China's making some insane cars. I'm worried about all kinds of things that they're doing. They're buying up the real estate all over America. They own large swaths of some of our biggest cities.
Starting point is 01:41:09 I mean, it's like they're aggressive on a few fronts. It's kind of crazy they're allowed to buy land around military bases. It's unreal. That's like what? It's unreal. Imagine trying to pull that off in China. And that's the difference between having a guy who's been in power for fucking decades, really knows how to run the country, versus some person who got elected
Starting point is 01:41:27 in a popularity contest. It's also a difference of when people see the country as it going out of business sale. I mean, you're selling everything out from under everybody. It's a yard sale. It's the way people are treating America right now is just to fucking throw a sign on it, make your best offer, come in and loot. Isn't it funny that if you said you have to be American to buy American property, people would be up in arms.
Starting point is 01:41:55 They'd be up in arms and they'd say it's racist and the real estate lobby would come out and go it's racist. Because they want that Russian money. Because they want that fucking oligarch dollar. You were the one that told me first about these apartment buildings in New York City. They're yeah, they're like ghost cities This is another thing we all go and I just read these things. They go look at these Chinese ghost cities They built all these cities and nobody lives in them and I go if you go to any of these buildings by Central Park There's like 20% of it occupied 30% of of it. 70% of it is straight up money laundering, where it's people that have purchased multiple
Starting point is 01:42:28 apartments under the name of an LLC, a limited liability corporation. And by the way, they've got a lot of them. There's not just one. There's so many of them, shell corps, that you can barely find who owns it. And it causes the price of everything to go up. And they're not living in the city. They're not contributing. They're not living in the city they're not contributing they're not tipping at restaurants they're not buying tickets to Yankee games they're doing it to move their money out of Russia China the United Arab Emirates Brazil India
Starting point is 01:42:54 wherever they're stashing it in these buildings and it's causing the the prices of all of the real estate around it to skyrocket yeah the real estate in New York is bananas. Well, it's LA. It's even in cities like Austin, obviously, there's not as much of that. But there are foreign buyers in this market that have pushed it out. Everywhere. Everywhere.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Everywhere. Sold for a whopping two, oh my God. This apartment sold for $238 million, the highest recorded price for a residential property. Billionaires rose a home to eight ultra luxury skyscrapers, each equipped with luxurious amenities ranging from cinema rooms to saunas. Look at that. The average sale price $9.8 million, and that's in that part of the city. That is the part of the city that is the favorite of foreign money.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Look at it says here, as of 2022, there are 772 unpurchased units. Because they've built these buildings specifically for money laundering. Wow. This is not built for regular rich people. Most regular wealthy people cannot afford to live in a $50 million apartment or a 238 million dollar apartment. So the whole thing is incredibly, you know, it's completely manipulated. So it's not a real market that has anything to do with supply and demand. It's artificially manipulated by a lot of wealthy people.
Starting point is 01:44:20 And then the real estate lobby loves it. They want it. And the developers like it sure and so those big money People love it And you know what's the Monday how's the money laundering part of it work? Because they take money out of whatever country and then they stash it in America in real estate so they'll come in and buy something cash under an LLC and That however much money that would have been in their home
Starting point is 01:44:46 country because some of those countries are volatile and the government to those countries could decide okay you will have money it's 20% of it's now ours right here's the new tax right give me I mean there's people to try to do it here yeah they propose wealth taxes things like that all the time right some of them are some of them are make some. Some of them are ludicrous. But those people are a bit paranoid. There's also political instability in a lot of those countries. And then there's people that just don't like taxes.
Starting point is 01:45:14 And there's people that have made money, narco trafficking, human trafficking, doing all kinds of things. Right? So these people that go, I have a lot of illicit capital that needs to go to real estate in London. There's an area in London called Mayfair, it's all Russian oligarchs. There's areas, you know, and London is even more than New York. London is the home for international money laundering. Really? It's the shadiest city in the world. It's really cool. It's a lot of fun. It really is. I mean, that's the thing about these people. They
Starting point is 01:45:45 are fun. And London is a financial capital halfway between New York and Asia. You have the biggest money in the world in London, because historically it has been, you know, New York's amazing. And New York's the greatest city in the world in the sense that I think it's the most representative. But London has always been the home of international finance since, I mean, we're talking about ... There's a part of London called the City of London, this is a small little part of it, and it's an area called Knightsbridge, and that's where they have One Hyde Park. And One Hyde Park is this building with $150 million apartments apartments and all these Saudi kids are driving like Bugatti's and Lamborghini's there and everything and if Harrods is there the famous store and it's just a signal to the ultra wealthy
Starting point is 01:46:33 This is where you come you want your kids to be raised as you know British gentlemen and learn the ways of but it's a home of like international finance and it's been that's a cool place, but You don't I don't know how you unwind all of this. You don't, you don't really unwind it. Now. I mean, also most people don't understand it. So who's going to run it? Who's going to, where's all the money going to go? It's hard to fight these people because they, that's the problem. It's like,
Starting point is 01:46:58 everyone kind of wants to be them. And then the people that don't want to be them, you know, they will kill you. That's the prop. They will blackmail you. And be them, you know, they will kill you. That's the prop they will blackmail you and if that doesn't work, they will kill you. This is the thing because they are the top of the food chain. And when you are at the top of the food chain, you're not going to give that power up without a tremendous fight. And I think that's really where a lot of it comes down to is they're preserving their position on the top of the hierarchy.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Imagine if the United States made a law where you couldn't buy real estate unless you're an American citizen. New York City apartment buildings would, it would be a bloodbath. But by the way, not only would it be a bloodbath there, it would be a bloodbath everywhere. And then people would look at their 401ks and go all these the shit I'm invested in is tanked That's the other problem because all all of the stuff they're invested in is based on a lot of investments being made by those companies like Black Rock and Vanguard and State Street and Citadel or Goldman, right? So it's just the creepiest things they're doing is buying residential homes and leasing them
Starting point is 01:48:07 to people. Yeah, because they don't want people to own their homes. They don't want people to have the power of home ownership or the dignity of home ownership. Is that what it is or is it profitable to buy homes and lease them? It's profitable because they- That's why they're doing it. Do you really think there's like some insidious like thing like they don't want people to have homes? Like really? Yes, because I think
Starting point is 01:48:26 they go that I think they look at it and say Americans will be happy renting. I mean that's the famous article. By 2030 you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. But that's just those WEF dorks. Yeah, but those WEF dorks are incredibly powerful amongst the crew of people. They all get together, they all have these conferences, whether they meet, and again, it's not always nefarious, but they go to Davos or Bilderberg or whatever, and this idea that five, that's the thing people talk about,
Starting point is 01:48:57 why should you preserve culture? Is it racist to preserve culture? And I don't mean the specific culture of any one race, but this idea that you wanna preserve culture, and people go, well, why is it good to preserve culture. And I don't mean the specific culture of any one race, but this idea that like you want to preserve culture and people go well why is it good to preserve traditional culture and because there will always be a culture. So if it's not Italian culture, Irish culture, Mexican culture, black culture, whatever it is, it's going to be soulless global corporate culture. That's why every hotel looks the same. That's why every fucking apartment looks the same.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Because the same people are choosing the same fucking 10 shades of marble and shades of wood, and they're putting up all of these different condos and all these office buildings. That's why all these cities are starting to look the same. Everything looks like a weird Airbnb. It looks like they 3D printed everything. That's why all these restaurants are starting to look the same because it's
Starting point is 01:49:47 soulless corporate culture. Americans, just like people all over the world, have less and less financial power and more and more of it is being consolidated on the higher end and they're going to say you're going to rent your house, you're going to take Ubers everywhere, you don't need to own a car, you're going to take whatever vaccine we think is good, you'll drive your car on Thursday or you'll be able to Uber on Thursdays because of climate, you're not going to be able to Uber whenever you want or you won't be able to use this amount of water or this amount of heat or this amount of energy. And all of this are going to be edicts delivered to you from the government, but also by these
Starting point is 01:50:24 corporate oligarchs that just own everything and it's gonna be a very Bland and soulless world it'll be Times Square It'll be Times Square what Times Square used to be but somehow worse versus what Times Square is a giant Applebee's now That's right. It's a giant Applebee's and it'll be that serene cold corporate Feeling that you get now when you walk into like a St. Regis and all these hotels are all owned by Marriott, the Ritz or any of these hotels. You walk into these hotels and it's all gray.
Starting point is 01:50:52 It's all gray and it all looks like a conference room and everything. Nobody's nothing's loud and hello and how are you and no one can do anything. Oh, we're sorry about. Yeah, we were not able to do that. We don't have the, we can't do that. And everybody's rule followed. Everybody's cameras trained on everybody. So God forbid somebody does anything like you try to tip people sometimes they go, thank you. I can't, I mean, we're not allowed to, and you're just loop because everybody's terrified of losing their job.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Everybody's terrified of upsetting these people. Everybody's on camera. And you know, it camera, and it sucks. The whole thing is turning into that. And I think as much as, there's a lot of conspiracies about the world economic form and all that stuff, some of them are probably based in reality, some of them are just crackpots. But one thing that I think is very real
Starting point is 01:51:38 is all of those people, those organizations, they exist to create a consensus amongst the wealthiest and powerful people that it is better to favor this set of policies over that one. And all of those policies inevitably take power and ownership away from people and reappropriate that and redistribute it to wealthier people,
Starting point is 01:52:03 the government and big corporations. 100%. Well said. That's a great way to put it. And those people, you don't know anybody like that. Like you don't know anybody like Lindsey Graham. So you don't know the game they're playing. Well, speak for yourself. I have a lot of friends. And I'll be taking Kurt very well. No, I don't. You don't. You know what I'm saying? You're not in that group. You meet the kids of them sometimes and they all believe they're doing the right thing. They think it's great. And they're, I was, you know, I met, was it in an environment where I met some of these
Starting point is 01:52:32 Harvard kids and Yale kids and they're all nice people, they're good people, they're fun people. But again, they just, they have these beliefs. Well, they're in a cult. They're drilled into them since they're young. And this is the problem with the Democratic Party It's maybe why they lose this election. Maybe they won't maybe they will it's condescension and they're condescending and
Starting point is 01:52:53 they're dismissive of people and And it's a kind of elitism that seeks to convince you that it is for your own good that they are in charge Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they're your mama. They're your dad. They know better than you. Yeah. And that's the like the thing when they talk about misinformation, disinformation. Don't you know? You know the difference, right? If you know the difference, why do you assume other people won't know it? That's right. Like you want to say that other people are stupid, and they're not capable of making these decisions or discerning what's true and what's false by themselves. So you want to eliminate anything that you disagree with
Starting point is 01:53:28 and just call it misinformation. Yeah, and not only that, but it's to demonize people, the demonization of podcasts, the demonization of people that are willing to have conversations with people they disagree with. It's all done to discredit anything that runs counter to that narrative. It's the same reason they don't want people to have social engagements that have any value
Starting point is 01:53:53 or a lot of times the reason that if somebody says something mildly pro-family they flip the fuck out because they don't want people to have a strong community with a family or a social arrangement that's fulfilling to them where they aren't dependent on not only services from the government, but also they're not dependent on the government to tell them what is valuable and meaningful in life. And if the government tells you that it is meaningful and valuable in life to support the things that they support and you internalize that then you're just gonna be led around by people and you'll be doing the things they want you to do and That's why they they get very threatened when people say things that are even mildly
Starting point is 01:54:38 Suggest that people are happy having children or you know, whatever the case maybe they flip out and they go Well, you can't tell me what to do. And it's like, nobody's telling you what to do, but the idea that people having families is controversial or saying that it's a fulfilling way to live, or to me, it's very strange when people kind of prey on your loneliness and they prey on your vulnerability to shove a bunch of stuff down your throat that would be harder to sell you if you had a family
Starting point is 01:55:12 and or a business, or a house, or a stake in your community. I don't think they want you to have a stake in any of those things. Right. And so logically, as they achieve more power, they will have to get people to go along with these things. That's right. And the way they do that is through forming these narratives. They have to- The counter to those narratives is the popularity of podcasts. Because the narratives, like if they only had the mainstream media, they would be so much further ahead.
Starting point is 01:55:41 That's right. Imagine if they only if like there was never anything on the internet other than websites and email. Nobody ever figured out social media. Yeah, so nobody ever figured out like we'd put up a news story. We'd have boots on the ground in the Ukraine right now. I'm not even kidding. We probably would. If they was just the mainstream media, we would have boots on the ground in the Ukraine currently. Jesus Christ. A thousand percent. I'm telling you, I'm as sure of anything as that fact. Tell me it wasn't one of the wildest things in the campaign
Starting point is 01:56:14 when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris and the left was like, yay. Well, it proves that it is now a raw power grab and that no one cares about anything. And I've lived long enough now to see the left admonish the CIA and the FBI and now cheerlead for the CIA and the FBI. I mean, in 2003,
Starting point is 01:56:41 you would see seething op-eds about the power of Dick Cheney, Halliburton, the military, the defense contractors, Iraq, the quagmire, you know, remember that word that no one uses anymore to describe a foreign entanglement thing? All of those people that supported the Iraq War all reinvented themselves as Democrats and now have jobs at MSNBC. Some of them have jobs in the Biden administration. Some of them have jobs in center-right or center-left think tanks in Washington DC. And all of those people, they cared... Dick Cheney has a lot more in common with a lot of the people that are running
Starting point is 01:57:26 the Democratic Party, obviously, than he does with their voters. Their voters loathe Dick Cheney. The people who run that party don't hate him as much as you'd think. Yeah. That's a scary thought. Did you see Liz Cheney on The View and Whoopi Goldberg? What was she saying? She should be the head of the CIA? Yeah. No, I mean, it's hilarious. Is that what she said?
Starting point is 01:57:50 Can you imagine? She said something crazy like that. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? I thought you guys didn't like that stuff. I thought you guys were the anti-Iraq war people. I thought you guys were the anti-weapons of mass destruction people. Liz Cheney for Kamala Harris's attorney general.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Attorney general. Wow. Whoopi Goldberg begs for it. That's what it is. Yeah. Well, this is a weaponization of the justice system. It's crazy. The whole thing is so weird to see people abandon what it used to be to be a leftist.
Starting point is 01:58:20 It used to be uncomfortable discussions are good. It's good to be able to have communication with people you disagree with free speech is imperative right it used to be that education should be objective and it's very important and you Counter bad ideas with good ideas. Well, it just became untenable. I think I think leftism was driven out of The the the sphere well just went for so far left, it became a different thing. Yeah, but it became left in a way that wasn't about workers' rights or economic justice. It became left in a way about aesthetic identity politics
Starting point is 01:58:54 that prevented any discussions about CEO pay or health care or anything like that. It just became. And I think they're really enthusiastic people about that ideology. Things are pretty good. Yeah. I think there's a lot of people where things are good enough in their lives to worry about
Starting point is 01:59:09 whether we have a trans Batman. 100%. Yeah, and I think that's the thing. I think a lot of the enthusiastic proponents of that stuff believe things are great and they're only getting better. And to sell a campaign, and listen, she may win, it's early in the day, but to sell a campaign on the word joy No is is is utterly insane
Starting point is 01:59:29 It's also kind of a revenge of the nerds thing too. Yeah, because it's a complete polar shift of Identity hierarchies. Yeah, you know the people that were like the weirdos and the freaks the trans people and you know They'll all of a sudden those people are at the top of this hierarchy of oppression and celebrated above all. Yeah. But it's also, I think... Where it used to be those are the ones who are cast out of society. But it's also like this idea that you need to keep identifying ways to divide people. And there's no other, there's no better way to do it than to claim that
Starting point is 02:00:06 Everybody threatens everyone else. I agree with you. But here's a question Is this a natural thing is this like a natural thing? That humans do when they find a vulnerability in a social system They attach themselves to it whether it's white guys pretending to be black, you know a couple of those Yeah, you know those kind of situations like there's there seems to be people attach themselves to something and then they sort of subvert it. But do you think it would have existed anyway? Do you think that someone has a vested interest in keeping us divided and so that these social
Starting point is 02:00:41 issues like whatever it is that comes up, like whether it's BLM, any kind of social movement that creates disruption. Do you think that those are engineered and those are injected into the system to make people have things to fight over? I think there's a balance. I think that there's organic rifts and fissures in society that allow certain sentiments
Starting point is 02:01:07 to bubble to the surface, like BLM, like the war in Gaza and the problems and the protests that are happening there. But the minute that stuff happens, I believe people seize on the opportunity and exploit it and fund those things and bust people into those protests and Exacerbate that moment. Yeah, because it is I think a
Starting point is 02:01:31 Defining, you know when Rahm Emanuel said never let a good crisis go to waste You know what I mean? Never let a good crisis go to waste they they are telling you, it's like when Lindsey Graham says, I want that money, like, give me that money. I don't want Putin having that money when they're saying it in front of your face. When Rahm Emanuel says never let a good crisis go to waste, the whole ethos of that statement is to seize on organic problems and exacerbate them and then inject whatever agenda you have so that you can then wrestle more power away from human beings. 100%. 100%. That's well said.
Starting point is 02:02:19 It's like, it's crazy to watch because when I grew up, I up in the 90s it was a time of like Doc Martens and fucking people drinking fishbowl sized cappuccinos and fucking coffee houses and fucking everybody was weird and it was a there was a individualism in the 90s Kurt Cobain and fucking people in Seattle killing themselves and making great music and rap and all this shit and flannel and you remember it and fucking but there was an individualism in the 90s that was kind of like I remember you know my parents saying to me once like a friend of mine did something stupid and they go well if you jumped off a bridge are you going to do it? It's like there was just this idea that you didn't have to go along with everybody else standing apart from the crowd made you Unique and an individual and good and it meant that you had value
Starting point is 02:03:11 Yeah, Nirvana killed hair bands because of that. Yeah hair bands became silly, right? Right? There's no idea that I've seen attacked more than that Being a free-thinking individual is coming under fire and has over the last few decades like I've never seen. The coordinated attempt to make you think not only do you have to agree with everyone that you're responsible for everybody, that what's good for you is good for them or what's good for them is good for you and that we're all in it together and all of these things and none of it is from a place of like, let's feed the poor.
Starting point is 02:03:48 None of it's from a place of like, let's help. All of it's from a very weird nefarious place of like, we move as a block. We are one consciousness. And again, not in the Bill Hicks good way, in the way of like, we're going to condemn the people we dislike, we're going to condemn the people we dislike, we're gonna expel them and cast them out, and then we're going to reward the people who will come along with us, because again, we are this blob of shit
Starting point is 02:04:16 that is just picking people up as we go, but I miss those days of kind of being like, yeah man, who cares? You think one way, I think another way, and it's not the end of the world. Now it's the end of the world. There was less influences. You think about the influences,
Starting point is 02:04:33 like I grew up in the, I was in high school in the 80s. So in the 80s, what we had was whatever was on the radio, whatever was on MTV when that came out, it was like, oh my god MTV Yeah, and what you saw on television at night when usually we're watching TV with your family after dinner or something yeah, you have very little access to the rest of the world and Now you're inundated Constantly 24-7 and there's a bunch of people that you wish you were but people that you wish sure I wish I looked like her
Starting point is 02:05:04 I wish I was tall as him, I wish I had the money that she has. Oh, look at that car he's got. It's the same shit, and everybody gets locked into this. This fucking weird, keepin' up. Voyeurism. Yeah, voyeurism, narcissism beyond, it's probably more like habitual narcissist today than probably ever before.
Starting point is 02:05:23 How many people that cannot afford houses are watching people buy mansions on TV? There's 20 shows about people buying houses. Oh yeah, I mean there's famous real estate channels on Instagram that are just showing you houses you could never fucking afford. And half of them suck anyway if you saw them in person, just like the people on Instagram,
Starting point is 02:05:41 but like this weird voyeuristic thing. Again, it's part of the flattening of everybody with technology where people, individualism has been likened to being heartless or soulless or uncaring, and that you are not invested in the welfare and wellbeing of others, which is not true, by the way. Thinking freely does not mean you don't care about people. It means you're not gonna swallow narratives
Starting point is 02:06:10 that the Defense Department has handed to MSNBC. That doesn't mean you want people to live in the street. Exactly. But this is, you know, people just don't like that idea. We're just a collectivist mindset now. We're like people, you have to be on the same page with everybody. Well I think it's inevitable and I think it's moving us towards a very uncomfortable reality that most people are not willing to even like look at. But we're becoming a
Starting point is 02:06:37 different species. We're becoming a different thing. That's interesting. I think that's true. Yeah. I mean I think that's one of the side effects of plastics and All the hormonal effects that people are having because of this all the phthalates and people's bloodstreams I think it's a effect of staring at screens all the time becoming accustomed to staring screens preferring Interactions online to people in person because they make you anxiety anxious. Well, that's what people you know This is that's such a great point people now talk about all the time like why doesn't anything feel the same? Right. No city feels the way it did five years ago and I think one of the reasons is
Starting point is 02:07:16 because we live so much of our life now digitally. There's that but then there's the veil of a controlled society that completely collapsed during COVID. That's right. The but then there's the veil of a controlled society that completely collapsed during COVID. That's right. The veil of there's someone who understands how the system works and they're running it efficiently. That's why the subway's on time. That's why the streets are clean.
Starting point is 02:07:36 It's because someone's running it and they're doing a good job. And then all of a sudden something happens and these people tell you everything has to shut down for a year and a half in LA. And you're like, what are you talking about? Like how? Why are we poor now? Why is everybody broke? Why is it dangerous? Why why are cars on fire? Why are they smashing into these stores? No one's doing anything about it. Like the veil got completely removed. So LA seems Vulnerable now like when I go through LA, it seems vulnerable. It seems like a beaten kid
Starting point is 02:08:03 Like there's something about it. There's a real dark, there was always a darkness there. Now I spend so much less time there because there's just this foreboding hellish reality that just, I don't know what it is, but it's like everyone's on edge. It's a dissolving of an illusion. It's dissolving of an illusion. The illusion is a sophisticated functional society. Well, it was also a place that, think about this, Los Angeles was built on the manufacturing reality for a long time.
Starting point is 02:08:38 And the ability to do that now has been greatly diminished. And the magic of the movies and this idea that you can fully suspend disbelief and all these things, I think a lot of that has had a real impact on that place because the inability, you know, they used to be able to make a movie that would convince you about an event. They would drive home a narrative through a movie. They've done this a million times.
Starting point is 02:09:08 Yeah. Now, by the time they do that, there's 10 documentaries on YouTube. Yeah. There's been a million podcasts. There's been a, so they've lost control. And Hollywood was really this myth-making institution that, and it was all built on very, and listen, they made a lot of great stuff, a lot of of movies we all love but a lot of it was built on like the exploitation Women of children all these horrible things that have now been unearthed right every documentary is crazy to watch now
Starting point is 02:09:35 It's like remember that 90s show you watched you go Jesus No, and they're like those kids were kept in a cage and fed like dogs You're like god damn it like nothing you enjoy the Nickelodeon stuff It's crazy. It's bananas, you know, I didn't make sense It makes sense. Yeah, because you have vulnerable people without a lot. There's nobody who cares about People in that town and the only people that have credibility in that town are people that have made other people a lot of money Right, and those are the people that were able to get away with it and do whatever the hell they wanted. So that town's just in deep trouble.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Well, it's just dark. It's dark. It's darker now also. And one of the things that happened during COVID was when you shut down production for a year and a half and then no one goes to the movies for a year and a half. Habit is broken. It habits broken. Habits broken. It's date nights not go to the movies for a year and a half Habit is broken. It habits broken habits broken some date nights not go to the movies I was in Joker 2 which just came out. It's the worst film. I heard it's ever been made bad
Starting point is 02:10:32 It's the worst film that's it's actually not so bad. It's the worst film ever made why Well, you think they did it on purpose No, it's a I think what happened after the first Joker was there was a lot of like talk like ooh This was loved by incels This was loved by the wrong kinds of people and they sent the wrong kinds of mail rage Nihilism, you know all these think pieces, right? And then I think what if we went the other way and now they have Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga tap-dancing To a point where it's insane
Starting point is 02:11:03 But is it possible that he didn't want to make a sequel? And then he said, no, I know Tarantino said that. I mean, it's a quarter. It's a quarter billion. They did that with if that's true. It's the most immoral thing I've ever seen in my life or brilliant, brilliant protest. I don't think it's a brilliant protest. Would it be fun though?
Starting point is 02:11:21 I don't know. It's a waste of everybody's time. Just make a good movie. You could have done it, you know. Just get out the foot, stop dancing. What do you think, what would motivate them to make a movie that's that far the other way? Because they want it, because it's hubris, number one. The idea that you could, that people love it so much, they're gonna accept it in any version of it. Do you think you would like it if it wasn't connected to the original Joker?
Starting point is 02:11:47 No, no, it has no plot. It has no plot. We would sit on, we would sit there. Me and these other guys, we're all dressed in these fucking security outfits because we're working at the Arkham Asylum, and I would turn to one of them, and we'd hear this crap, and I'd go,
Starting point is 02:12:04 what the fuck is this? And they'd is gonna bomb man this is the worst thing I've ever we were talking about at lunch we go what is the plot is there a plot they go I don't know I think he falls in love with her in the prison is it worth going to see because it's bad? It's not even hate watchable, that's how terrible it is. But is it one of those things like Showgirls? No. Where it's so bad you can watch it?
Starting point is 02:12:33 No, because it's like you're sitting there and there's these people, you know, in the theater and they're all confused and I'm watching their reactions and they're all like Staring and everything and like it starts like oh, it's raining and it's Arkham Asylum and you're like, okay cool and then there's a moment where Joaquin Phoenix just goes for once in my life I have someone who needs me and they just and he's just Becomes a fucking musical But hold on let me back this up. Yeah, let me back this up Don't you remember when Joaquin Phoenix went on Letterman? Yeah, and he had like this. Yes. He had some crazy
Starting point is 02:13:19 Fake persona. Yes, like he did something where he pretended to lose his mind. Yes a rapper or something, right? Yes. What was he doing? I don't know. He was like, what did he do for a while Jamie? Yeah, he did this this is a joke. He was gonna pursue a music career. This is 2009 You've got a nice beard going and oh, yeah, thank you. How is that the beard? In my way. Well, is it comfortable? Is it itchy? Is it are you pleased with it? I'm okay with it and I make me feel weird about it. I'm sorry. That's a long interview, but that's okay, man Let him know. So he was a wizard. He's great. He was so good. He's the best in my opinion of course guys percent he just so good
Starting point is 02:14:04 Now go back before that cuz that, because he's wrapping it up. So, but Joaquin Phoenix was acting weird, and so people decided, oh, Joaquin Phoenix has lost his mind. They didn't like the interview, and then kind of people went cool on him. And then he did like a documentary showing that he was like playing a character for a while. Right. Is that what he was doing? I think so, yes. So it was just like an art piece he was doing? was doing this could have been a $250 million practical joke. That's what I'm saying. Maybe it was
Starting point is 02:14:30 the same guy. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's a fun quarter billion dollar practical joke. If you're if you're walking Phoenix, you're the fucking king of the hill, right? You're like one of the biggest movie stars in the country. You're the guy from gladiator. Right? Like he can kind of trick Hollywood dummies. I think they thought that this would be received differently. I don't I think they thought I think they're maybe in a little bit of a bubble. Well, I think walking fitness is alone in his house right now laughing that he pulled that off. I don't think he even knows he did it. He's the same guy that did this thing. I know. He's like, he's crazy. I think he's an actor.
Starting point is 02:15:10 So I don't think he exists. I think it's just like what the new part is. He becomes that Joaquin Phoenix tells Letterman, I hope spoof didn't offend you. Actor apologize, the late show host for awkward interview that features in new film. I'm still here So he was doing that as a part of the film. That's the idea So the film is that he was acting like he was a crazy person. Yeah, it was like a documentary about him making Music all they had to do All they had to do was blow some shit up Have him escape from prison
Starting point is 02:15:44 Have him do something, get a couple of scenes in the courthouse or something. Look at the text here. It says, throughout, Phoenix was trailed by actor Casey Affleck, who is his brother-in-law, and a film crew. The result, I'm Still Here, was released this month as an ostensible documentary about the corrosive effects of celebrity and wealth on a now drug-addled actor in the profession since he was a child. So the idea is that they did a documentary on how fucked up he was, and so he went on Letterman to act fucked up. But I think it was a goof. Yeah. No, it was a goof.
Starting point is 02:16:20 Right? Okay. Elaborate spoof. It was all an elaborate... Okay. It was Affleckake who confirmed what many suspected that it was all an elaborate spoof last week telling New York Times that Phoenix had given a terrific performance as the performance of his career So he just acted like he was drugged out and out of his fucking mind for a spoof Yeah, like this is the kind of guy that would Trick those Hollywood dumbasses into making a musical sequel to the Joker. If he did that, then that's great. I don't know. I know that he was raised in a cult when he was a little kid and his name was Leaf, so whatever he does, God bless him, he's a brilliant actor.
Starting point is 02:16:52 He changed it from Leaf to Joaquin. Yeah, it's like, you know, I mean, the guy's brilliant, but the movie was just, I mean, God, was it rough. It's crazy because the first one was so good. He was so believable as a completely insane person. The first one was really great, and then the second one just went and if you were a fan of the first one the second One was like Kind of I think insane to a fan of the first one. Well, it wouldn't be the first time
Starting point is 02:17:17 Yeah, you know, it'll be like if Godfather 2 was about like the Corleone family going legit You know what I mean? Like an apologizing for the mafia. Right. You're like they were like, hey, I'm sorry we did all this shit. Yeah, we now have a bakery. It just it went it went completely the other way. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't see it, but I heard it sucked.
Starting point is 02:17:43 Anything does. Has anyone won? I get something. I got one minute before the first polls close. One minute. Oh, five. Now, I mean, so I don't know. I think there's definitely got to be some. I'm waiting. I'm checking every website. Definitely stop.
Starting point is 02:17:57 Someone to say something like exit polls and all that stuff. It's got to be. That's what we're waiting for. I mean, there's one like three or four states that close. Then North Carolina is early, right? The only discussions I can see is what's going on in Pennsylvania. What's going on? What's going on? I don't know. Trump said that there's some cheating going on. Well, he's certainly going to say that if there is talking about when he was on the podcast, I wish he could just rattle off. I'm open to it to just tell me what it is. Tell me what it is.
Starting point is 02:18:25 I hear you. It's like there's so much evidence, so much evidence. We have so much evidence of cheating. But a lot of people close to him say there isn't. Who's those people? And how many of those people are covering their ass? I don't know, but Mike Pence probably... See, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 02:18:41 That guy... Is he covering his ass? Yeah, he just endorsed Kamala Harris, too Yeah, they wanted to kill him. There was people that went to Jane on January 6th. They were looking for him Allegedly and supposedly no no for sure, but I'm wondering like I'm open to the idea that there was fraud But like a lot of top people like people that were in his orbit Don't talk about like he talks about it right, but okay, so let's take Pence out of the equation because he's probably salty.
Starting point is 02:19:09 They're probably, they mean- Well, for sure, but I'm saying like, Pence didn't, if there was evidence, wouldn't he, like, Pence have said, all right, let's not certify it? No. Okay. That is a crazy thing to do. Right, okay. For the vice president to stand up and say,
Starting point is 02:19:22 I mean, you're, that's essentially like, you're getting ready for a fucking major conflict. Gotcha. You know what I'm saying? Don't you think? No, for sure. We just need someone. That guy doesn't want that kind of heat.
Starting point is 02:19:34 That's not Trump. For sure. We need someone outside of Trump to verify it. Yeah. Like who would that be that you would trust implicitly? Well, you would just need to see evidence. It would just be like, if I made a claim about anything I'd have to provide evidence. But let's imagine that you were working with someone like Trump and
Starting point is 02:19:52 you're like a top guy and you know there's no election interference. You know that the election integrity was a hundred percent. You know that he's not telling the truth. How could you stay with him? How could you stay with him without laying it out to him? Like sir, can I just have an hour of your time? Well I think a lot of- Let me explain to you what the problem with saying that it's rigged. Here's where you can say it's rigged. Okay, for sure. There was a 100% involvement in social media companies suppressing information that would have changed the results. For sure. At least in some percentage in one way or
Starting point is 02:20:24 the other. Yeah and listen, I'm open to it being that there was fuckery in other ways. I just think that Just like anything else you can't take someone's word. Well. He says there's a he just didn't have it on chair Yeah, but I would imagine that you if you there's something you've been talking about for three years like if you ask me yeah Important stuff in my like even stuff like you ask me about like jujitsu, I could tell you all these different things that have happened. I could tell you why this is important and why that's not important. That's like a minor thing relatively to you lost the president of the United States. That's a major thing.
Starting point is 02:21:02 And so if you knew that you had been cheated to the point where you're willing to talk openly about the fact that they cheated, they cheated me, this is how I know. I would want to be able to rattle off. Yes, he should. I would want to be able to say, we found there was 25,000 inconsistent votes in this place. We know that there was manipulation of this thing or that thing. Tell me. Yeah. You should have that ready to go. Ready to go. I agree. It's a thing that we don't want to think is true, but if we're going to put our fucking
Starting point is 02:21:33 necks out there and agree with it, or at least entertain it, you gotta have it laid out. Bullet points. Yes. You gotta have it laid out. But I think he's just so fucking busy. he's probably got other people doing that, and they're all telling him that it's stolen, and he just listens to them and doesn't have that stuff ready to go. Well, yeah, I mean, listen, Steve Bannon brought up an interesting point the other night on
Starting point is 02:21:58 Megyn Kelly, where he said they had lost by a certain amount of votes or Biden had gotten however many more votes in Obama, whatever. But also the Republicans picked up like a ton of House seats, which is because there's something fishy about that where it's like all these people are just voting Republican down and then Biden. So there were things and again, I'm not talking about the veracity of it. I'm just saying there were some suspicious things that again, I'm not and talk about the veracity of it. I'm just saying There's some suspicious. There were some suspicious things that he felt was fishy or tricky or whatever. Now. I don't know
Starting point is 02:22:37 Again, this has been a thing that's been over the heads of whereas you have people on the right that go It was stolen and don't know any of the evidence, right? Then there are people on the left that go he's an election He's an election denier, which they also did with the Russiagate stuff for years, said that he was installed in a compromise or whatever. And then I think there's just got to be, like you said, there's going to be more information about whatever happened. Right. Well, the idea of breaking into voting machines goes way back to the HBO documentary Hacking
Starting point is 02:23:04 Democracy about George Bush. Remember that that about the diebold machines that's right and the fear and this is back when I was a hardcore lefty the fear was that the Republicans were going to be able to rig the vote with these machines because the people who made those machines were contributors to the Republican Party right now what's the other way now now the right is constantly worried about Dominion well they constantly worried about Dominion Well, they won that lawsuit Dominion won that lawsuit right against Fox News, correct? It's box because Fox was saying things that it didn't have evidence
Starting point is 02:23:32 How's the best way to do it is it paper ballots voter ID right? You have to have an ID Well, I would imagine First of all, of course You should have to have an ID the only reason why you wouldn't want someone to have an ID is because you want to cheat. You have to have an ID for everything. You got to get a fucking membership at Costco. Why not? Let's do that.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Because maybe you lose your ID that day, but maybe you can go in and say, here's my finger. Why not? Why not? Some biometric thing. Yeah. Biometric could be easy. It could be something you register for on your cell phone. They always have your face now.
Starting point is 02:24:03 You can just show up. That's not hard to do in this day and age. But the idea that you wouldn't want anyone to have ID, that means you want people voting that shouldn't be voting and we know that that happens. That's been proven that at least in certain circumstances people are voting that shouldn't be voting and the only reason why you would want that is because you want to cheat. So the only reason why you would want no ID is so that you could cheat. So now I got to go, how much do you cheat?
Starting point is 02:24:29 So you're willing to cheat in that way. You're willing to cheat where you're willing to block information that would have changed the bill. Oh, they've always been willing to do that. I think this always- You're willing to cheat where you tell people they don't have to have ID. They've always been willing to do that. And then the right has been willing to do things to that compromise the integrity of
Starting point is 02:24:45 things for sure. 100%. And you just got to figure out how to do like an actual election that is fair. It's AI. And it's going to be president AI. Yeah. Well, I think we're going to give up government to artificial intelligence once it's vastly superior to us. That makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. But I think it's on our path. What we were talking about before, about people becoming more frail and more, like, feeble, and, like, the British people,
Starting point is 02:25:14 when you're talking about their teeth, you know what that's from? It's from your jaw. That's not all British people don't get mad at me. When people have small jaws, like, and you're... They all have scurvy. It's it's literally from eating mushy food because they have bones They are mushy peas and they have scurvy your bones aren't as thick anymore because they're not chewing meat You're not breaking things down with your teeth
Starting point is 02:25:36 You don't have to crap so your jaw like over time becomes smaller and smaller interesting. There's yeah There's actually a technique called mewing and this guy figured out this technique where you can change the shape of your jaw with exercises and tongue pressure and that there's other guys that I have a thing that I use at home it's like oh I weight lift with my jaw sounds crazy. Yeah. But there's these weights it's like a rubber ball and you put it in your teeth and you fucking mash down on your teeth And it builds your jaw muscles and it makes your jaw more square like literally works You do jaw exercises and that's the reason why these people for a long time
Starting point is 02:26:14 We're eating mashed potatoes and fucking gruel like they're poor shit right there jaws all shrunk Interesting. Yeah It's a good theory. It makes sense Yeah, like you would need like that's one of the reasons why people have to get their wisdom teeth removed our jaws are getting smaller We're not like breaking down tough meat anymore. So the shape of our face looks different So eventually there's just gonna be a bunch of AI government We're gonna slim down these tiny jawed bitches in there look at aliens, right? Look at the aliens. They always have a little tiny jaw Yeah, big ass fucking head That's us. The next ten years are just gonna be unreal. We're gonna be those things
Starting point is 02:26:48 I think those things that we see the people keep seeing even if they're not real we become that's us in the future the grace Yeah, we have sexless genderless cyborgs right or maybe even completely artificial by that point Maybe we realize that consciousness can actually be captured and that we all share it and there's no benefit whatsoever and being an individual that it's just a Cheat code that the primate used in order to think of itself as Important enough to continue to innovate to the point where it creates artificial intelligence now if she had run on that instead of the word joy I would have voted for her. I
Starting point is 02:27:27 Think that's where we're going. I think that's what all this Yeah, I think that's why male hormone levels are dropping through the floor Which is all a big part because a sedentary lifestyle and also because of these Estrogens and plastics and all these different things that are fucking with people's reproductive cycles. Do you think we've been here before? In what way in this do you think humanities ever been in this spot before I think humanities been in a different But similar spot. Okay, I think that's what agent Egypt was all about There's no way that level of sophistication could be achieved unless those people were beyond level of sophistication could be achieved unless those people were beyond what anybody is thinking about from people that live five thousand six thousand years ago. There's just no way. There's literally no way. Does God figure
Starting point is 02:28:14 into this at all? Well, I don't know. If God's real, God's everything. Right. If God's real, God's the universe. And there's like a powerful creative force that didn't just made Earth and bunch of stupid people that were in a garden and this bitch talked to the snake and ate an apple. No, God made the whole thing. If there's a real God, He made the whole thing. And the whole thing is made by what? It's made by the universe.
Starting point is 02:28:37 The universe makes itself, right? So the universe is probably God. So yeah, God plays into it. But I think there's a direction that primates go in. And it goes into like ever more weak and feeble, but much more capable with tools. And it happens with some like bonobos. They're super peaceful, they just fuck each other. Somehow or another, there's chimpanzees that are Murderous monsters just run around tearing each other apart killing each other tribal wars killing monkeys And then these other ones just fuck each other and chill yeah like what is that like? There's just like that seems like they're a little bit more evolved, right?
Starting point is 02:29:18 That's probably how humans were and then humans eventually figured out tools and right and we became what we are now Well, we're gonna keep going in that direction And then humans eventually figured out tools and right and we became what we are now well We're gonna keep going in that direction, so we're so much weaker than even a monkey You're like a monkey will tear your fucking head off like we're so feeble and we're gonna get feebler We're gonna. It's gonna be put smarter way smarter. Yeah, we're gonna be Communicating completely with our minds. We'll probably never need sounds anymore. We'll probably never use devices Everything will happen in your mind. What's the fun of all of that? What's the fun of being a chimp? Is that fun you want to throw shit for the rest of your life and eat bananas get the fuck out of here
Starting point is 02:29:56 I want to drive a Cadillac. I want to watch a fucking movie Yeah, I want to call people on my phone that are nowhere near me I know right so what's the purpose of being a person you're filled with anxiety You're worried about who's gonna win the election and you're trying to stay off drugs, but you want a cigarette, right? What's the point? What's the point that stupidity when you can be an enlightened being that flies through space with your mind? Cool. Well, I never thought about it like that if Lazar's telling the truth Babel's, the guy that supposedly back engineered these crafts, if that guy's telling the truth, he said there's no controls inside those devices.
Starting point is 02:30:33 When they enter- They're powering them with their mind. There's some connection between the entity and the device that's not an interface like we think of like a joystick and buttons to push. So they're just so evolved, it's a different thing. It's a different thing, but it's probably what we become, because we didn't always have clothes. Well, of course.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Think about clothes and shoes and your silly sunglasses and all this stuff. Well, they're not silly. They're beautiful. They're silly because I don't have them. I know, of course. When I have them, I'll call you that big guy. You're right, we're advanced. We're advanced.
Starting point is 02:31:02 So we're so much different than chimps. It's the Billiard Cl of evolution didn't end with thumbs It's our distant distant distant cousin But if you look at them and you look at us like what is going on with them? Why do they have to have clothes like what is they're wearing coats and jackets and shit all have shoes? No one works walks barefoot at all right with it. We're softening ourselves up, right? We're like literally putting a nice shell over ourselves so we become a fucking squid, like some gelatinous form. So you think if you come back to this planet in 50 years,
Starting point is 02:31:31 if it's still here. Robots. Robots. Robots. I think no more biological life in terms of humans. Wildlife will exist. All that stuff will exist. No more people.
Starting point is 02:31:42 I think people are the cocoon. We make the electronic butterfly. It comes out of the cocoon. We don't know why we're making the cocoon, but we're making the cocoon. Everybody gets the newest phone. Everybody has the newest TV. Look, it's got Wi-Fi built in. So do you get a skin suit? You're not even going to be biological. I think we're going to give up. Are we going to be able to? This is what I think they're going to do. I think they're going to integrate first. I think we're going to be cyborgs. It's going to start with things like Neuralink.
Starting point is 02:32:10 Can I get that now? You can get it. Can I sign up for it now? I don't want to wait. But you don't want to be an early adopter, like those girls who got those lip jobs. I'll take the chance. Many of them are in Miami. They're fine, these whores.
Starting point is 02:32:22 I will take the thing now. It just sounds fun. It sounds good. I want to be in a vehicle without communicating with my mind. So there was a guy who branched off, he was one of the original guys with Neuralink, he branched off to form his own company and they just created an implant that allows blind people to see. So see see if you can find that, Jamie. I think it is like you wear goggles. I think it's like there's a whole thing. I don't think it's like as simple
Starting point is 02:32:49 as they put it in your head. But again, cell phone used to be a suitcase that you carried around. And you had to like open the suitcase to get your phone out and pull the antenna out. Now it's this little tiny thing that you can be on for 24 hours in a row, watch movies, call each other.
Starting point is 02:33:04 But this is eventually gonna be inside of, watch movies, and call each other. But this is eventually gonna be inside of us. Inside of us. Yeah, and then, that's a good point, because then you go, the next step. We had the first Neuralink patient on. Interesting. And he controls a cursor with his mind,
Starting point is 02:33:16 and he said when he plays games, it's like a cheat, because he's got like an aimbot. So everywhere he sees is where the cursor goes. He doesn't have to go hand to eye. Eye goes to cursor instantaneously. So he's like, I don't miss. I just, like you look at where you want something to go and it just goes there. That's it. He's controlling it with his mind. So there's gonna be over the next however many years different generations, you know, it's just like iPhones.
Starting point is 02:33:45 Yes, for sure. Science Corporation, imagine that's your name, Science Corporation. How uncreative. Is this the Chinese front? Science Corporation? That sounds like a fake name. Science Corporation. A biotech startup launched by a Neuralink co-founder claims it has achieved a breakthrough in brain computer interface technology that can help patients with severe vision loss in preliminary clinical trials. Legally blind patients who lost their central vision received the company's retina implants which restored their eyesight and even allowed them to read books and recognize faces.
Starting point is 02:34:19 The startup announced last week. Whoa. That's crazy. To my knowledge, it's the first time that the restoration of the ability to fluently read has ever been definitively shown in blind patients. CEO Max Hodak, who is the president of Neuralink before founding Science Corp, said in a statement. Holy shit. What does it look like, Jamie? Show what it looks like? I want to see what it looks like. Sounds crazy. Science Corporation. Good luck finding that on Google. What are you gonna find? Oh it's in the first one. Prima. Alright what does it look like? So this is the implants?
Starting point is 02:34:58 Where is it? So where does it go? Oh look, they're showing you. So they stick it back there in the back of your fucking eyeball. Look how tiny it is. Holy shit, man. I love how by the way it's just Americans are like, look, you'll be able to see the oven. So he has to wear glasses. And the glasses work with that implant. and now he can see things. This is
Starting point is 02:35:28 crazy. It's amazing. It's said for people who lost their vision, right, you have to already have some sort of, they couldn't like... You got to have some vision. Yeah, you have to know a basis of... Well, I don't know that. What things look like. Are you sure? How could you recognize someone's face if you never saw it before? Well, you wouldn't until you saw them and then from then on you'd be able to recognize their face. These political texts are so crazy they're still coming in. What are you getting? Oh, I'm just telling you where to go? This woman had my phone named Janina and I guess she was a big Democratic donor or not? You know, she's because they're like, Janina, we're panicked. Can you please answer? Have you voted?
Starting point is 02:36:04 I'm like, um... We're panicked. Can you please answer have you voted? I'm like, um, we're panicked Right. I go. I don't know what to do. Jenny. No, are you going with you fucking with her? No, because it's just a bot. This is what we're talking about. It's all AI It's just bots going like please vote pan. Yes or no. Okay. Are you a Republican? Thousand votes counted so far only who won who won out of 75,000? I mean, I don't even know where they're from. It's 49,000 for Trump, 24,000 for Harris. So even. Now, what is your suspicion of what's going to happen? What's your suspicion? I thought it was, you know, I thought it was, you know, I think it will be him, but I also thought that is very close and I think with Roe, that was the one X factor.
Starting point is 02:36:52 100%. That was the only X factor I had thought about. I think without that. Not just Roe, but that thing that I brought up with JD Vance was some people believe is true. And apparently there might have been a case in Texas, Jamie, I know you're Googling, but where we were talking about women in a place where it's restrictive like Texas has a six-week law Which is right because you don't even know you're pregnant in six weeks
Starting point is 02:37:12 You barely missed your period right? It's crazy especially if your periods like not regular And then if you go to another state where abortion is legal and they find out they can prosecute you, right? So that's the type of stuff. I think that could you she could win on that right because that is crazy. So it's not just crazy It's gross because here's why it's gross not not just because you shouldn't be able to tell people where the fuck to go and where I where they can go and do things that it's a legal medical procedure, but imagine if you're a woman who gets pregnant and you have a miscarriage and you go and visit your mom who lives in Oklahoma where Abortions legal and then you get questioned as to whether or not you had an illegal abortion you get ink
Starting point is 02:37:57 That that's a kick you imagine. No, it's crazy. So that's your kid and you're fucking heartbroken That's the one thing where I could see a groundswell of women coming up for her and she could win. Yeah, because that's- Yeah, for sure. The idea of that is attached to these apps, right? So there's apps that women can use that track their ovulation. Track you, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 02:38:18 So they track their menstrual cycles through these apps. And if they get the data from these apps and the apps show that you lost your period or you didn't have your menstrual cycle And then you went to Oklahoma It doesn't mean anything, but you are gonna let people investigate people's bodies. No, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy It's it's insane. It's crazy. That's that's the worst direction it could head because I made one headway That's that's the worst direction it could head because they made one headway Roe vs. Way they got rid of it. So now it's up to the states Well that makes it sketchy and now if the states are gonna prosecute people for traveling to other states Well, then now you're saying the state is in control of your body. No, that's crazy your ability to go somewhere in America
Starting point is 02:38:57 What did you agree? He said he wasn't aware of that and we wouldn't want to do that. But I think that this is a thing that was brought up See if you can find that in Texas Case I found in Texas. I don't think I had to do with out of state abortion I might be wrong, but I would have to do with in state, you know It's all kind of well. It's one of the things they do They just have like whatever their rule is and everyone's okay with it And it's just the thing is they have a restriction as well they do
Starting point is 02:39:26 we're talking about France I'm gonna go to Europe where a woman's right to choose but they have restrictions no but it makes sense that everyone no one cares yes it's like there's a certain time where you can't do it anymore because it's viable outside the world it's not a Bill Burr's bit yeah yeah I think one should have a right to choose and I think you're killing the baby like both those things are true yeah it's like it's just these issues there. They're the problem some of these issues that can be solved I'm like what a Federman said that thing about immigration and he goes. Yeah, nobody wants to solve it because it's good for everybody There is something to me that's about all of these issues that seem weirdly like people are against any type of rational common ground
Starting point is 02:40:02 I think you're right. I think there's definitely some truth to that. I think some people do want things solved, but I also- Most people don't want late term. These things are these political beach balls that get tossed around at concert. In one of the ones that people were terrified of if they got rid of Roe v. Wade, the next one was gay marriage.
Starting point is 02:40:20 Cause they were like, no, a marriage between a man and a woman. And that was what people were worried that all this stuff is coming out of religion. Well, I think a lot of it's going to go to states rights. So I think where you live will determine a lot of your freedom. Freedom. And that I think they've said they don't care about gay marriage, but I imagine that would come up. And I imagine that Graham does not want to give up half his stuff. Right. Yeah, I don't care about gay marriage, but I imagine that would come up and I imagine that. Lindsey Graham does not want to give up half his stuff. I don't believe in gay marriage.
Starting point is 02:40:49 Marriage itself is good for him. I'm more with him on that in the mineral front. But no, I think that, of course, these things will probably go to popular votes. these things will probably go to popular votes. And it's because people are uncomfortable with the courts and telling them that they have to believe a certain way or think a certain thing. And that's the whole thing. It's like, you can vote with your wallet, you can vote with your feet, you can leave a state.
Starting point is 02:41:23 Obviously, I am for a woman's right to choose. I am not an elected official in Missouri. I have no power there. I do not live there. I have no influence set all over a woman's body in Missouri, positively or negatively. It's like there are things, this is this crazy big country where yes, I would agree that a lot of things, but I also, I didn't agree with a lot of things that they've done.
Starting point is 02:41:50 Wouldn't you, if you wanted to, this is an interesting way, you want to play 4D chess, like if you wanted to get rid of the Republicans and you're a rhino, you're like a sneaky fake Republican, wouldn't you like push to get rid of Roe v. Wade? Because one of the things that Roe v. Wade is going to do... Well, we'll see if it has an effect. Hold on a second. Here's one thing that Roe v. Wade is going to do. Roe v. Wade is going to charge up a bunch of women who don't want men telling them what to do. So they're going to want to vote Democrat, right? And they're going to go out in large numbers. And if you do that at the same time, you're shipping all these immigrants into
Starting point is 02:42:23 all these swing states. And then you have those folks join the Democratic Party too. So they're all voting Democrat too. Now you have a reason why you should want to take over this red area and turn it blue. Because these fucking men are trying to tell these women what they can and can't do. It's like one more layer on the cake that you're allowed. For sure. like the percentage support you'll get more percentage support. It's like a good idea if you were like a creepy puppet
Starting point is 02:42:51 master that was controlling the strings of civil unrest in the country. If the Democrats had said listen we're not allowing any gender experimentation on kids until they're adults and we are not and we're going to enforce the border law and Biden had said I'm serving one term and they had a primary Trump probably wouldn't be back He's back because they opened the fucking door His main issue is immigration. They literally Exacerbated it 10 million legals came over the border and then people are incredibly uncomfortable with their children Being indoctrinated in
Starting point is 02:43:25 schools with this crap. So I think he would have been back anyway. He might have been back. I think they thought he ripped him off. They ripped him off. I think he would have been I think I think the reality is they've given him on a silver platter his biggest issue which is that people want a country. Well, what do you think they would do to beat him? So if he's back, if Biden does say that, he steps down, who is running? You know, a Federman's obviously not mentally there to run, but a guy that has that, you need a working class guy who goes, we need a country. We need to have a distinction between citizen and non-citizen yeah the social contract has to be otherwise we have an
Starting point is 02:44:10 a social contract with no it's invalidated completely when you're bringing people in from all over the world and the government is promising them things and they're getting votes and they're and they're they're replacing Americans in certain you know manufacturing jobs or whatever, you don't have any sense of a country. You need a country and you need a working class person who's not condescending and somebody who goes, look at the Tavistock Clinic in the UK that just closed. Why?
Starting point is 02:44:40 Because experimental transgender therapies for children is a science that is not only not settled, but it is doing damage to people. This is why that clinic, clinic's full of progressives that said, we're shutting this down because we're making a lot of fucking mistakes that are irreversible and these are human beings. If you take away those issues, then the Republicans have to run on an economic platform that may or may not be that popular. But the Democrats chose instead to elevate DEI, to talk about the most important thing
Starting point is 02:45:16 is in America's diversity, equity and inclusion. They chose to convince everyone, all of the social capital that they spent convincing people how important it was to support the Ukraine with no plan and no end game and open-ended and ditto, you know, whatever Israel wants to do and maybe we'll have to go into Iran and like to get all of that and to explain that to people and they didn't even explain it that well, but they kept telling people how important it was they could have easily easily crafted a message that was that was Rational and sane all they had to be was because Trump is a lot
Starting point is 02:45:55 And I think there's a lot of people in America that would have said hey, man We should just move on it's chaos is the question. Who's the spokesperson? So I have a primary who would it be Gavin Newsom's not trusted. No, it's volatile. Right, but here's the question. Who's the spokesperson? So if you have a primary, who would it be? Gavin Newsom's not trusted. No, it's got to be someone we barely know. Kamala Harris is already the vice president, so you have to choose her. Because if you're going to go all with all that DEI stuff, if you're going to go all with...
Starting point is 02:46:18 But here's the thing, if you're going to go all in with this idea that we need a woman of color who's the president yeah which is one of the things that they were saying all along he was gonna do that and I was like why not just have the best person right now you have to have one okay you've already accepted that you have her she's the vice president she's been there for four years well she knows how shit runs right automatic it's automatic unless you change course and you realize and someone competes against her you have a primary and you gotta
Starting point is 02:46:48 find I don't know I don't know who that person is I don't know every Democrat in the country I don't know every Democratic congressman governor senator one person that stood that stands out like any person that colors outside the lines like Tulsi Gabbard they get fucking ostracized well we have well the lines have to change that's the problem the problem, the lines have to change. That's the problem. The problem is the lines have to change. You cannot be beholden to extremists. And then on one side you have the extremists, on the other side you have these like corporate oligarchs that are demanding fealty to foreign wars, endless trade agreements that don't
Starting point is 02:47:23 benefit workers, you know, hollowing out the middle class. And this was all stuff the Republicans were all about in the 80s. And the Democrats were about in the 90s under NAFTA and stuff like that. So if you transform the Democratic Party again into a workers party with common sense, reasonable considerations, and it's not based on religious fundamentalism, and it's not based on woke fundamentalism on the other side. But how do you get people out of that that are in that, where it's like part of their tribal identity? Like, how do you get people to relinquish?
Starting point is 02:47:53 You need a figure that rejects it. Like, I think you need somebody to reject it publicly. When Bill Clinton had that Sister Soldier moment, right? When Bill Clinton opened- What was that moment? The Sister Soldier moment where she was a rapper or something, she said something about American, he corrected her. sister soldier moment, right? When Bill Clinton was that moment, the sister soldier moment where she had she was a rapper or something. She had something good American he corrected her. I forget exactly what it was. But it's a it's a moment where Bill Clinton was running
Starting point is 02:48:14 for president and he went against and you know, and establishes bona fides as a, you know, here we go, yeah. What was this? I kind of remember this. Sure, let's play the video. Let's stand up for what's always been best about the Rainbow Coalition, which is people coming together across racial lines.
Starting point is 02:48:45 You talked about Mr. Fields from Louisiana that you had here last night, a great role model. We don't have a lot of time to do this. We don't have a lot of time. You had a rap singer here last night named Sister Soulja. I defend her right to express herself through music, but her comments before and after Los Angeles were filled with the kind of hatred that you do not honor today and tonight. Just listen to this, what she said.
Starting point is 02:49:20 She told the Washington Post about a month ago, and I quote, if black people kill black people every day, why not have a weekend kill white people? So you're a gang member and you normally kill somebody, why not kill a white person? Last year she said, you can't call me or any black person anywhere in the world a racist. We don't have the power to do to white people what white people have done to us.
Starting point is 02:49:44 And even if we did, we don't have that power to do to white people what white people have done to us And even if we did we don't have that low-down dirty nature If there any good white people I haven't met them. Where are they right here in this room? That's where they are I Know she is a young person, but she has a big influence on a lot of people and When people say that if you took the words white and black and you reversed them, you might think David Duke was giving that speech. Let me tell you, we all make mistakes, and sometimes we're not as sensitive as we ought to be.
Starting point is 02:50:14 And we have an obligation in all of us to call attention to prejudice wherever we see it. A few months ago, I made a mistake. I joined a friend of mine, and I played golf at a country club that didn't have any African-American members. I was criticized for doing it. You know what? I was rightly criticized for doing it.
Starting point is 02:50:34 I made a mistake. And I said I would never do that again. And I think all of us have got to be sensitive to that. We can't get anywhere in this country pointing the finger at one another across racial lines. If we do that, we're dead, and they will beat us. Even in Reverend Jackson's new math of this election, it's hard to get to a 34% solution or a 40% solution
Starting point is 02:51:01 if the American people can be divided by race. If he ran on that today, he beats everybody. This is what I mean. In a landslide. That's what I mean. In a sensible. That's what I mean. That's what a Democrat used to be.
Starting point is 02:51:14 That's what I mean. How good was that guy, by the way? The best. The best speaker. And the best person. But what I mean is that had Kamala Harris Repudiated yeah a lot of what happened in the madness of 2020 2021 all that stuff and said America is not a white supremacist country that is
Starting point is 02:51:39 only set up to terrorize people of color and minorities and that you that, yes, we've had a past that's been terrible but we've made tons of progress, and people should be rewarded in this country on the basis of their hard work, their ability, you know, and we cannot have a society that is arranged by people's tribal identity. If she'd come out and gave some more eloquent version, I'm just off the top of my head, of that speech, it would have been her Sister Soldier moment, and she could have said, this,
Starting point is 02:52:21 my party went in the wrong direction. And by the way, it would have been very compelling to a lot of people Yeah But she would have to formulate that or someone would have to help her for someone would have to what I'm saying is you should Run for president you should become a Democrat and run on that. Maybe I am well, you probably couldn't become a Democrat They probably never let you in but I bet you they let you into the Republican Not only will they never let me in depending on the the next eight hours I'm gonna be in jail
Starting point is 02:52:47 There's going to be No, I but I think that was the thing. I think Trump ran against a Republican Party in 2016 yeah, he ran against the bushes he ran against foreign war he ran against big business He ran against every single Republican donor base every plutocratic concern Trump ran against it He ran against the Chamber of Commerce He ran against all the people the Koch people all the people that were open borders he ran against all of those people and You know, he ran against major
Starting point is 02:53:19 You know major power factions within that party and he steamrolled them. And Kamala Harris has refused to do that. She didn't repudiate Biden. Well, how could she though? Because he's still president. She's still vice president. She would have to. She has to throw him right under the bus and say that. But she would almost need a fresh start, like to get out of this cycle and then come back
Starting point is 02:53:38 again in 2028. He's an old fool. That's what I would have said. Somebody asked me about him, I would have said, he's an old fool. But then you'd have to say, well, what is Biden? Oh, he sharp as a tack. Now I don't believe you. Here's the deal. The vice president we all know kind of doesn't do anything. She should just say that she should go listen, the vice president do anything. Maybe she should say that she should say that she should go. Let's be very honest. Legislation originates
Starting point is 02:53:58 in the House of Representatives. The president has an agenda. I'm sitting around. He's an idiot. We let way too many immigrants in. The tranny stuff's gone nuts. And we gotta put some people in jail. If they break into your car, they steal your phone. Yeah. If she said, if a Venezuelan steals your phone, they go right to jail, I would be phone banking for her.
Starting point is 02:54:18 She hasn't acknowledged his appeal. They never give him his due. They never give Trump his due. They never give Trump his due. Had she said in the debate, listen, Trump, you brought a lot of people into politics. You've ignited their passions. I respect that. And you've brought up issues that are important
Starting point is 02:54:34 that have been ignored for a long time by both parties. But I just think we need to move forward in this election. And you're a very entertaining guy. It was a time, George, Bill Clinton said to George HW Bush he goes in the middle of the bait because listen We all respect your military service and we respect the sacrifice you made for the country But I think we have to go on another direct and it was just and then you could see like H Like HW the older one being like oh it was seething right because Clinton had kind of complimenting complimented him I said we like what you did but we gotta
Starting point is 02:55:05 go in this new direction that would be a brilliant move to use against Trump it would have been a brilliant move to use against Trump but you're right she can't do it she's owned by donors she's owned by these people and it's unfortunate because had she run against them there might have been a contingent of people that said work they would give her a shot but I think she hasn't done it. I think public speaking is a skill. She doesn't have it. No, it's a very particular type of skill.
Starting point is 02:55:30 So she has one skill, and that was in that one speech where she said, come say it to my face. Remember that? You got something to say about me? Say it to my face. Everybody cheers like, oh my God, she's going to win. There was a moment, but that was a really well rehearsed thing that she did and she had excellent timing. And that's right. So then all the pressure comes out and then the bumbles and then the interviews and the stumbles
Starting point is 02:55:54 and the inability to ask, to answer certain questions and then all that stuff. So her ability to do that kind of thing is dependent upon a teleprompter and a well-rehearsed speech She doesn't believe in anything outside of her own ambition Bill Clinton did his whole State of the Union speech once when the teleprompter went down He did it all off the top of his fucking head. It was a different thing. He was a different thing So a guy like him you don't find those now because they're all pussy hounds and they're hiding right You know what that fucking job. Bill Clinton was around before the internet.
Starting point is 02:56:27 It was great. Maybe that's what we need to go back to. And he's still got trouble. Yeah, I mean it's like, but they, cause she, you know, it's that, again, it's that corporate hollow like speak that inspires nobody really. Yeah, well the thing that inspires people is she laughs a lot and you go girl, woman of color, all that good stuff. She was already an attorney general.
Starting point is 02:56:51 She already had vice president. She's in, very qualified in that regard. But what Bill Clinton just did, that's what we want. That's what we need. We need an actual leader that I go, well, that's an an exceptional human being the way he talks is better than I can talk This is in both of us, but the way he's doing it in front of everybody It's very very because that moment he was the left flank of his party I'm sure didn't love that and I'm sure that there were people that criticized him for that
Starting point is 02:57:21 But he basically came out and said listen that there were people that criticized him for that, but he basically came out and said, listen, I'm gonna go out here and I'm gonna, you know, take a stance that's gonna anger people, but I'm gonna reach across the aisle and say, you're right, this is not moving us in the right direction. There were moments that she could have done that,
Starting point is 02:57:41 she chose not to, and I think that's, you know, again, we don't know anything. So I don't know if I'm doing a post-mortem on her campaign or not. But what do you think if you had a bet right now? I think it's him now. I would. I think if he gets Michigan or Pennsylvania, it's over. And I think he's getting one of them. I don't think she gets both of them.
Starting point is 02:58:01 But I could be totally wrong. What do you think? Jamie, what do you mean? Jamie, make up the results. Because there's been these all these turning points. There's been all these ups and downs and yes, you know, stumbles and recoveries and, you know, different interviews. Yeah, I'm still fucking there was a time I thought it was definitely her.
Starting point is 02:58:21 And then there was a time that I thought was definitely him. And then there was a time I thought it was definitely him and then there was a time I thought was definitely her and now I think it's him again. God I wish I got a chance to interview her. You know? That one would be interesting. What if she changed my mind? What if she like in actual conversation is cool? She could just be herself. Well here's the thing, she would have had to do what Clinton did and she can't do it because they are being held hostage by an ideology that is crippling to thought. Right, but so wouldn't you want to,
Starting point is 02:58:52 so a person like that, really, I'd want to talk to them about stuff outside of being president. You know, because I think that's when you can find out a lot of shit about people. Yeah, I think the Walsh thing was a mistake. Oh yeah, well she even said that she chose him when she was sleep deprived. Of course, he's a buffoon. By the way, it's a hilarious thing to say. Of course. You can't kick him out either, right? No. You can't say, I changed my mind, you're fired. You should have went with Josh
Starting point is 02:59:20 Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Republicans would have been panicked. But do you think that the free Palestine people would have got upset because Josh Shapiro is Jewish? Yeah, but at the end of the day, he would have won more Jews back. He's a better debater. And I think he would have been instrumental in PA. And I think PA is the ballgame. So I think yes, people would not have been happy with his, but by the way,
Starting point is 02:59:45 Wals is saying the same stuff. So Shapiro is going, Israel's got a right to defend itself and it's our big friend and whatever. Wals is saying the same thing as Shapiro would have said, except he's a goofy guy who should be at like a state fair eating hot dogs. He shouldn't be the vice president. So if you're gonna have that party line, because it's the party line, no matter what you ask them, that's just their party line. They go, Israel has a right to defend. It's funny if that's gonna be the party line. Have a competent shrewd operator say it and not this buffoon. Not only that.
Starting point is 03:00:21 Who should be ice fishing. Who's been caught lying multiple times. He's a pathological liar. And he lies about stuff that's not important. That's right. That no one cares about. Like you don't have to lie about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:32 You don't have to. You're lying because your version of the truth is not like what you're giving people is not the truth. You're changing the truth and always to make you look better. You're a head coach instead of an assistant coach. Your military rank is better than it is. You pretend kind of that you served in war. It's a total, you know, it's patronizing
Starting point is 03:00:58 to the American people to just put this guy out there and say he's just like you. And's one of those radical people. I mean, it's just not a Mainstream guy Shapiro is much more of a mainstream guy who just happened to be Jewish Right and this guy who comes from Minnesota is a very far-left radical guy Who again is he he's not Karl Marx, but he's nowhere near the mainstream of American politics and they pick him out and they go buddy talk he's folksy he's got a charm he's a fun guy and but he happens to be a liar and full of shit and you know his wife when the BLM riots were happening said we just
Starting point is 03:01:42 rolled down the you just open the windows and smell the burning tires and really took in the moment. That's a quote from his psychotic wife. So psychopaths, psychopaths, these people. It's joker shit. And we smell the burning tires we just took in the moment. That's a quote from Gwen Walls. Good Lord. So at the end of the day, it's like they're not representative of the American people just because you might bump into them at a state fair. They just broke those two. They don't have a dollar. So that was exciting.
Starting point is 03:02:12 They're like, oh, we got this guy who's broke and he was like a coach and he has no money. But he turns out he's a liar and people don't, you know, people don't. When riots are going on, people are not taking in the moment and sniffing the burnt tires. This is, you know, why is this psychopath? Let me hear this. This is a psychopath. I could say those first days, you know, when there were riots, I could smell the burning tires. And
Starting point is 03:02:43 that was, that was a very real thing. And I kept the windows open for as long as I could because I felt like that was such a touchstone of what was happening. She's ill, she's mentally ill. I kept the windows open so I got as much burning tire smoke in my house. In my house, so you can't, can we? What?
Starting point is 03:03:05 It's a psychopath. And the Democrats bring her out because they go, she's their teachers and they're broke. They're like you. I think you can't. And then you go, I don't know about that. Let anybody talk off script. If they're going to be smart about this in the future, you got to put everybody on a script unless you find yourself another Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 03:03:22 Put everybody on a fucking script. God, he was good. I mean, listen, pedophile, perhaps. Epstein friend perhaps human trafficker perhaps, but God did he talk such good talk? God did he talk and then I think it goes back to what we're talking about about like secret societies Like they've there's always been these people that were in the White House or wherever these fucking places these people fucking they go crazy White house or wherever these fucking places these people fucking they go crazy behind closed doors And you're just assuming that they're the person they portray themselves on television Right this button-down person with a suit and tie right talking to you about the future, right? And it's that is not what's happening. That's not what's happening. There's human beings. They have vices. They like wild shit
Starting point is 03:04:00 I bet they like power for sure. Otherwise, it wouldn't be president They like power and they probably are into some kinky shit that they know they're not supposed to be doing because it's fun. For sure. That's probably what's fun about it. For sure. You're the president, you're getting your dick sucked, this is crazy. In the Oval Office.
Starting point is 03:04:16 This is crazy. Think about that. Yeah, that's a good point. Probably so much fun. That's probably why Kennedy did it. They were out of control. And then all of a sudden they can't be anymore. Right. So it's like, what? Huh? Yeah. It's like when they said Catholic priests couldn't get married anymore. Like what? Yeah. Like Catholic priests used to fuck. They used to be rock stars,
Starting point is 03:04:34 but they were fucking too many people. Yeah, but thank God after they banned marriage in the Catholic church, nothing bad happened. Definitely. Thank God nothing bad happened. Well, you think it's him for sure? I do not know I do not know Jamie who won, you know who had a really good post about this Max Lugavere He had a really good post because I'm not voting for Trump because I'm voting against all these things he just listed like a like a very clear and concise list of all the different things that are fucked up about this ideology that's being pushed today.
Starting point is 03:05:09 For sure. The fucking censorship of it all is the thing that's the most spooky, because it's the only thing that's going to keep us from working our way out of this. That and the war. Yeah, those two things. That and the ratcheting up tensions all over the globe. Yeah. Is a problem. Yeah Well, he's the one who's saying he's gonna try to stop all this shit Let's hope and if that if that's a reason to vote for someone that should be like the biggest reason to vote for someone
Starting point is 03:05:35 Like get someone who wants to stop people killing people number one get us out of these fucking international conflicts number two Right make it so that we have our own oil and we have power here. We don't have to import foreign oil and prop up dictators. That all would be good. All that sounds good. Right. It's like, I don't hear the things that people keep saying he's saying.
Starting point is 03:05:56 Like, this will be the last time you get to vote. No. They're gonna put you in camps. They're gonna separate interracial relationships. The way to run against him was what I said. It's not saying he's Hitler. It's saying Here's where he's right and here's where we can do it better. Yes That's the way to run against that's how you're gonna win and they chose not I'm gonna back you
Starting point is 03:06:16 I'll get Peter to you better things when you I'm coming to you for money. So you better better We're gonna get you fitted with a nice suit. Thank you I think you're more of a like a collar open guy though collar open man of the people Collar open and just kind of like bro. You can't lose. Yeah gay Republican You guys so many people to jump over to the other side I would go I would should be the governor of California for sure you that's when it's an actual good point I actually win a great point. No, no one likes that Newsome fellow. They don't trust him anymore You got caught with his fucking mask off
Starting point is 03:06:46 at the French Laundry. I will either save the state or destroy it in five days. No, you'll fix it. But it's either or, and I think either one is fine. You're gonna be a national hero. Yeah, well I hope. And they're gonna be screaming for you to be president. That's what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 03:07:00 Well, let's pray. You'll be the first Republican president since Arnie. Makes sense. That's right. You're in. You're in. Yeah. Or first Republican president since Arnie make sense. You're right. You're in yeah You are first Republican governor rather. Yeah in California So I'll be huge and that's a good plan because I could go from there and then right to the White House and you're socially Liberal so the liberals won't feel bad voting for you. Right to an extent. I'm socially liberal
Starting point is 03:07:19 Fucking wide extent. Yeah to a wide extent. Yeah. I do believe women should ask to leave the house. I do have that. That's where I have that Islam thing. I do believe that. Permission is important. Permission is important. The fucking Sharia law thing is the craziest. Well let's hope everybody is peaceful and happy.
Starting point is 03:07:39 Yeah. Let's hope it's not all handmaid's tale in the future. Thanks for being here, man. Thank you. It's, man. Thank you. It's always fun. Always. Thank you. You had some brilliant rants tonight, as always.
Starting point is 03:07:49 No, thank you. I appreciate it. Where are you at? Where can people come see you? Tim Dillon Show on YouTube, timdilloncomedy.com, and the mothership sold out, but I'll be there next week. Oh, you're there next week. We might add a show.
Starting point is 03:07:58 Are you traveling around? Yeah, there's a few. We just did a tour, and we're kind of at the end of it, but we got some dates in Canada. We're kind of at the end of the tour and you know, are you there? Yeah Yeah, I'm doing Ron White show. Okay, cool. Come on. Thank you. Bye everybody

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