The Joe Rogan Experience - #2226 - Theo Von

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

Theo Von is a stand-up comic and podcaster. He is the host of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von." www.theovon.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day! These are like conversation condoms, aren't they? Yeah, a little bit. Well, it's like a safe room. It locks out the world. Yeah. Conversation only exists inside your ears. You know, locks you in. I think it locks you in. Yeah. That's what I like about it. Yeah. It's almost like a football player kind of putting on their helmet. Right. Ready to go. Like we're ready for this. Yeah. Yo, how fun

was election night at the mothership? It was baffling, man. I mean, here, I'll tell you, it was, I mean, it was crazy all It was so much fun We had such a good time that green room was so positive Did my favorite part at one point they were playing that song? You talk about a revolution If people were dancing people were smoking weed there was a bad thing. There was a baby smoking weed people There was everybody was like people were like me. It was crazy dude if Adam and Eve were in there There was just a lot going on it felt like

America's brighter. That's what it felt like we were we were moving towards this insane world We were being controlled by liars. We're just being gaslit left and right we saw it all the media We saw it all over the news. We saw it over the news Things that were right in front of your face. They're trying to deny There's just so much craziness and then all sudden The world spoke did you see the map of the actual country like how many places actually voted voted red? Oh No, I don't know if I saw that or not. It's just a few cities.

Even California was mostly red. That's what's crazy. We had, uh... I don't know if I saw that. I'm trying to think of what I saw. There's a, um... Oh, Tony was nervous, remember? Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe going up to him and going, member so he better be fucking nervous

did I kept just going up to him and going fairly snappy dad fucking get his vibes look at that oh wow this is the one I saw Jamie else on this do you let's go music to it this was like when I got that hair surgery don't talk about they played music in the background no Yeah, it looks a lot like that like a transplant Yeah

Micrographs yeah, that's what it looks like man. So what I sent you Jamie. It just shows like the entire country That's right Look at that So what I sent you, Jamie, it just shows like the entire country. That's right. Look at that. Oh, that's interesting. That's crazy. There's no blue states, just blue cities. Well, then why do you think that the, why do you think the cities and states are so much different than?

Well, cities are always going to be blue. Um, it's normal. It, there's a lot of factors. One of them is you have massive populations of people, right? And you, when you have massive populations of people, a lot of times it's based around universities. Like Los Angeles is slightly different because Los Angeles has universities, but really it's like more around Hollywood which is equally delusional but most big cities are flavored by a university like Austin is flavored by the University of Texas. Yeah. It's why Austin is progressive.

Austin is for people that don't know outside of Texas Austin is one of the most progressive cities like if you look at, we voted in Austin, the city of Austin voted more for Kamala Harris than the city of Los Angeles did. Oh wow, really? A higher percentage of Democrats voted for Kamala Harris than even Los Angeles. Well, I think a lot, it seems like a lot,

like a lot of Democrats, I don't know like a ton about politics, but it seems like a lot of Democrats, like it's, I like a lot of Democrats like it's I Understand the a lot of the voting because it's hopeful voting. It's like wishful thinking Well, they're they're feeding off of narratives like you're a good person if you believe this but the Consequences are what they're ignoring the pretending that the economy is in a great place. That's crazy Talk to anybody who's broke talk to anybody who's struggling to pay

for bills and groceries. Talk to anybody who's trying to buy a car. The economy's bananas right now. It's sketchy, very sketchy. And a lot of it is- People are robbing each other on Facebook Marketplace. A lot of it is recovering from COVID, I'm sure. I mean, there's probably a lot of blowback from that.

I mean, they shut the whole fucking country down, which is just so nuts. That was insane, man. I think that's probably a lot of blowback from that I mean they shut the whole fucking country down Which is just so nuts that was insane man I think that's one of the like but yeah, I mean yeah people are robbing each other on Facebook marketplace My buddy was going to buy a couple walkie talkies off a guy right gets fucking mugged right really yeah He's gonna buy a couple of um So he meets the guy to go get the walkie talks and the guy mugs him It's like the seventh story I've heard but it's like, you know, people are doing crime, you know, people are resorting to crime.

And that's when it's not good, I feel like, you know, not just that, when people are resorting to crime. This administration did that I think is terrible. And this is a progressive liberal thing is that you have these DAs, these George Soros funded DAs that just let people out for violent crime and Get the no cash bail thing and when there's no repercussions for crime guess what crime goes way the fuck up Oh, yeah, if I'm a criminal and they're like hey, it's crime time or whatever I'm gonna fucking put on my cleats or whatever. I'm gonna get out there You know you're gonna go to jail and you're just gonna get released. Yeah, it's like catch and release. It's almost like the um

Fishing rules or whatever like if you go trout fishing in the lake You're a fly fisherman used to be a cop now you're a fly fisherman with Nike's on the hook Yeah, those fishermen they use barbless hooks, and then they let the fish go I went fly fishing recently Yeah, yeah, man. Do you have a good time? Yeah, you know what I did I thought it was like um Let me think about what I thought it was like uh It's the more sophisticated way to go fish. Yes. It was like excuse me fish. Yes Yes

It was like hey, it also requires a lot more skill Well, they were car requires more patience for sure. You can't like Like if you have a kid or whatever you can't do it like you right like if you're just fishing on the bank You can have your kid and you can be sitting there smoking or whatever your kid likes to do You know, but if you if you're in that you have to constantly be moving it right, you know, it's very kind of like It's kind of like, um, it's kind of homoerotic almost. It's like, hey, fish or whatever. Yeah.

Flailing. What's like, hey fish. I think so. Yeah. Do you ever see those guys? It's like, Hey, fish, I'm over here. I'm over here. Boys.

The least sophisticated form of fishing is like a bobber with a worm on it. Yeah. That's the least. You throw it out there. But that's some of the most fun fishing because that bobber starts moving. You're like, oh shit. Yeah. Oh shit.

I think we got one. Oh shit. It's like Jaws all of a sudden. Bro, fishing is so exciting. Yeah. My grandma used to take us fishing, dude, and she was like a malignant fisherman or whatever and she would... Degenerate?

Yeah, like very... She was like a staunch fisherman like staunch like we're fishing you know You better not fucking not fish. You know she really kind of had that kind of behavior. Yes. She was very You better fucking fish white boy. Well, you know she would kind of be like that. Yes, very aggressive, right about fishing for little kids Yeah, and we have to be quiet and look straight out and wait for the bobber, but she was really um She loved to fish did she love to eat fish. Yep. She liked to skin them and grill them and everything Yeah, yeah, it was cool Mostly catfish bullheads we used to fish up in like Spoon River up in like, Illinois Do you guys use like chicken liver for yeah Yeah. Yeah. We would get out there

We'd have a little thermos full of chicken liver. Yeah, you know works My grandfather would say anything and she fucking look at him and he wouldn't talk for a month after She was the fisherwoman. Yeah, she was she loved to fish. I think she liked She liked catching her own meals even you know, she didn't like to hunt but she liked to fish What's that fucking dude's name the chubby dude that dressed up like the devil and everybody got mad is a singer Sam? What's that? Have Smith yeah he He said he wanted to be a fisher them oh god not a fisherman a fisher

She a fisher them. Yeah, that's wild. Oh the they them thing is that's the best evidence You need that people are out of their fucking minds. You can't be plural you fucking idiot Well, the only thing I think it's like it's almost This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Did you know that Joe Rogan comm is powered by Squarespace? Well, it is It's the website platform that's ready for anything with all the tools you need to stand out and succeed online. Now it's even got the power of AI. Start a completely personalized website

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Like that's, you know, like, that's what I don't understand about the- It's just a way to be unique and it's a way to be in a marginalized community if you're just a regular person. So like if you're a regular white person, you're at the lower end of the social hierarchy amongst woke people.

But if you're queer or non-binary, now you're in a protected group. Now you're in. My buddy's queer actually. Nice. What does he have to do to be queer? Nothing, he's cool. He doesn't, yeah, he didn't like send you

an email update or whatever. He's just. Did he update his Twitter pronouns? No, he's cool. He's just he doesn't yeah, he didn't like send you an email update or whatever He's just did he update his Twitter pronouns. No, he's just like a just decides his queer. Yeah, he's like a secret not secret he's like He's just like a or I don't know what they call it I gotta look at the chart whatever what is queer these days cuz when I was a kid queer was gay If someone was queer they're gay or if you got punched in the head then you're on queer street it was like everything was confusing queer was confusing okay and then queer became gay somewhere along the line but now I think queer is whatever you want it to

be yeah you could be gay bi straight and then you can be pansexual What is that exactly that's a way of radius. He's pansexual he came out Now you came out as pansexual. I don't know what that means. I can barely handle whatever I am dude To be real honest for us also new whatever I am bro. It keeps jerking off at night and being afraid to talk to women Whatever that one is that's what I am. You're theosexual It's fucking getting kind of Eddie man. You're theosexual Why are you afraid to talk to the women? No, I don't know, you know, I get I I think I get afraid to like I just I've always I always got afraid to approach approach women, you know, yeah But why you're handsome fellow. You're funny. You're successful. You know? Yeah. But why?

You're a handsome fellow, you're funny, you're successful. I don't know, I think something I just... Childhood shit? Yeah, probably. There's something, you know, just, yeah, like I just, I would just be so fucking nervous, buddy. You know, when I was a kid, I would be so nervous. Yeah, I would be so nervous.

Which is interesting that you got into stand-up comedy, which makes people really fucking nervous. Well, I think I was familiar with being nervous. So that didn't affect me. Interesting, because you're nervous all the time. You're like, fuck it, I'll just go be nervous in front of all these people. Oh, the audience is the, when you're on stage,

the audience is just a woman. Oh, like you're just trying to get them to like you. You're just trying to get, yeah, you're on stage the audience is just a woman Like you're just trying to get him to like you you're just trying to get yeah, you're like, how do we get this to work out? You know, I know you get you to like me more Who do I have to be? I was the other night was crazy. Sorry. I cut y'all. No, no, go ahead I got nothing man. No, the other night was crazy. This week's been crazy. It's just been a crazy week Yeah, you know, it's been a crazy week, man It's just been a crazy week. Yeah. You know, it's been a crazy week, man.

It was interesting because the beginning of the night, no one knew what was gonna happen. So you're watching the first results roll in and there's like this weird thing. And then Trump gets way ahead, but you're like, you don't wanna like get too hopeful. Like how far ahead is he? He's ahead by a hundred points.

That seems like a lot. Yeah, and you're like, what is it? And some channels are like, and then every channel is kind of different yeah they had different numbers I was getting a different number off my Apple News Update than I was getting off of CNN and then I was texting people like Tulsi and JD Vance I was getting a different apparently Elon created an app and he knew who won four hours before the results so as the results were knew who won four hours before the results. So as the results were coming

in, four hours before they called it, Dana White told me, Elon was like, I'm leaving, it's over, Donald won. He just fucking somehow or another. I'm going to go back into my pod and evaporate. I don't know where he's pulling his data's pulling his data from but he had like the most Accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn't put the results in yet But yet Trump was ahead in these states combo is never gonna win those states So tabulated that and I put it all together. I don't know how he did it. Yeah Dana I don't even I haven't talked to Elon about this

I don't know like the Dana translation, but Dana said he had an app and he was like showing him. He's like it's over Dude just left. It's over John Jones one He just fucking left Dude, yeah, I mean the whole thing's crazy me. I'm so happy for uh, my biggest thing was I was so happy for Bobby Kennedy man Yeah, because he's the only person that I super know like as a human, you know? He's been a buddy of mine for years and I've just known that he's a,

like I trust him, like it's almost like you have people that you know and that are good people. It's like, I have to trust my own instincts at some point and know I know him. Somebody I would vouch for. He's a good guy and he's been helpful to me in moments where I have struggled as a person and just been inspirational to me. It's like I know him, like a friend.

And so that's, I think, that was something I was super excited about, just to see where everybody was like, excited about just to see where everybody was like, screw this guy, you know, and to see him have a arc where it's like, um, cause all he ever cared about, um, to me, and I don't know, this is just my opinions, dude. Some people, everybody has their own opinions and I'm an idiot, but, but he, he always cared about like, um, the rivers and the environment, you know, and then he started to care about the environment inside of our bodies, right?

So for me, that all makes sense, right? And so like, we know where it all happened from, right? I was super like that was I was super excited about, you know, how he made the transition to being worried about pharmaceutical drugs. He would give these speeches and he, he litigated a bunch of lawsuits against corporations that were polluting rivers. They cleaned up these rivers. He was an environmental attorney and they were also talking about the effects of mercury

poisoning in the soil and water. These women kept coming to these things that he was doing and saying, you need to investigate mercury in vaccines. He thought that that is like which most people think you hear vaccine like the last thing I want to be labeled is a vaccine skeptic Jesus Christ a vaccine denier that's like we talked about this yesterday but it's like Holocaust deniers number one but vaccine denier and election denier are like right under there yeah and he started looking into it, particularly the MMR vaccines and the correlation between the uptick of

all these autoimmune issues, autism spectrum disorders, all these different things that coincided directly with the increase in the vaccine schedule for kids. And so then he starts doing research on it and the more he does research on it the more it gets uncovered that there's this gigantic machine that's protecting all of this because there's so much money that's being generated and most of it has to do with during the Reagan administration they gave them immunity to prosecution so they couldn't, they were no longer liable for whatever side effects the vaccines caused. Yeah that's pretty wild

Yeah, and then of course these motherfuckers started giving little kids little babies that were just born hep B Vaccines like what are you doing? Like that's a you get that from needles and sex. Yeah Pam Anderson's baby, dude, I would And know if I don't even know if she has any kids or not. And I love Tommy Lee, so I shouldn't have said that. Well, you fucked up. I already done, dude. It's a joke.

What are you going to do? It's a fucking joke. Yeah, sorry. Everything's okay. I feel the same way about Bobby. I don't know him as well as I know Tulsi, though. Tulsi is a good friend of mine. I love her.

She's great. She's an awesome person. She's like a legitimate awesome person You know that lady she served as a congresswoman for eight years and the whole time She was like she was against this divide of right versus left. She was always trying to be cool with everybody She served overseas. She was deployed overseas in a military in a medical unit, man So she was helping people that got blown up by the war twice That's where she got that crazy white streak in her hair in a medical unit, man. So she was helping people that got blown up by the war. Twice.

That's where she got that crazy white streak in her hair. That all came from the stress of being overseas, working in a medical unit. Wow. Yeah. I guess, can stress be that compartmentalized inside of you and it comes out like that? Your body's, you can't imagine.

I was just talking to my friend Bruce about this last night. He was a cop in Austin We were talking about The amount of death that most police officers see and the stress that has on you And what he was telling me is you take like a cop that has like 20 years in the job They what they see is probably 10x what the average soldier who's deployed sees Because you're seeing murder all the time You're seeing car accidents all the time suicide all the time

Domestic violence all the time you're pulling people over you never know if you're gonna get shot He goes most of these guys are fucked up because they just Constantly seeing this stuff constantly. Oh, yeah, I'd be at home out here somebody open a jar of Pringles and I'd fucking pull on them, you know Yeah, you What's going on dude we had a um police officer on a few years ago or about a year ago Can you look this up Jamie's that okay to ask him to look something? Yeah, okay It's a police officer How long ago? Uh, yes this guy retired police officer

Sergeant Brad white This guy was super unique. He lived in Los Angeles, but he told this story. He he was um, He didn't have any political thoughts he just told stories of what it was like being a police officer and he told the story of His first day on the job. They're chasing a guy. The guy runs into traffic, gets hit by a vehicle, and killed, right? So even as just a human being, you're just doing a job,

but then you're trying to compartmentalize, or what effect did I have on this? What are my you know, like he told this story of a mother had called and said that her son was was thinking about committing suicide, right? The mother meets him in the yard. He shows up. He's he's a police officer. It's in outside of Los Angeles.

I think in Whittier Police Department. I could be wrong. He shows up, the mom meets him outside. They see the son comes into the doorway, right? It's like a glass door with another door behind it, kind of, takes his own life, right? Kills himself right in front of them. So now he's standing there with the mom.

Oh my God. Now he has to go he has to go He has to console the mother then go inside of the home He walks inside the door won't open because the man's body is there right? It's he's having trouble getting it open even just that moment He gets it open Something falls off of the ceiling down the back of his shirt and it's part of the guy, his brain matter. He had shot himself on the ceiling. So I know that's graphic and stuff,

but and then for the next three or four hours, he has to take care of this scene with this little feeling between his bat wings, whatever that, what is that no inside of your body yeah and it's brain matter yeah and it's just like that's just a regular guy you know he might not even have finished college or something you know it's like so just the baffling amount of stuff that police go through anyway I was trying to just like those are stories that stuck with me when I, when I spoke with that guy. It was like unbelievable.

It's just conveniently ignored by most people who will never be police officers. And then that was one of the more offensive things about the George Floyd thing. All this defund the police shit where people rose up and were saying defund the police. And I mean, defund the police. And Kamala Harris was one of them. She was out there tweeting defund the police and because of that crime just ramped up in certain communities and so many people wanted the police back but then it's you know it's a long process to try to and to this day the most of these cops don't have good morale. They still have this this feeling of defund the police was just a couple of years ago. Yeah. It's hard to get people to be cops now. cops don't have good morale. They still have this this feeling of defund the police was just a couple of years ago

Yeah It's hard to get people to be cops now. They don't want that fucking job. And why would they it's a fucking hard job Yeah, and they don't even I Think the highlight like they usually they used to play like softball in our area against like the fire department That was like the highlight of it, you know, it was like having like competition, you know But I don't even like if you defund them. They're not even super funded. You don't ever see a cop with like a um boat Or so you know I'm saying like you don't a baller cop. Yeah If you think about how hard that job is like hard jobs should pay more

You know like what is that? I think if you paid them too much though, then they just quit like I got enough. I'm out Yeah, I don't know because like what's hard to be in a rapper be the cop. It's fucking way harder being a cop. Oh Yeah, I think yeah, cuz rappers get paid way more. That's true Cops just I think a lot of cops will start making albums I think a lot of cops will start making albums from their cars. But there really should be some, there should be a great producer that goes on a ride along with a police officer, this is going to happen, watch, and makes a dope track with a cop. And you could make a dope, you'd have so much great visuals. And the proceeds go towards supporting the police department.

Yeah, like the cop could like be saying shit from behind the wheel and you sample that yeah sample that in tournament to songs We got them In pursuit different codes different codes 5150 isn't that when someone's crazy? Oh, yeah, that's crazy right there That's 50. I think 44. Okay Look is this cop rap? What is this? Grammy nominated rapper Sacramento police officer records new deployment recruitment video pull him up man No, I Looked I just figured there could have already been one. What's that? 5140 have to be a Grammy nominated Grammy nominators doesn't impress me like Grammy winning that impressed me Grammy nominated doesn't impress me. Like Grammy winning, that impressed me. Grammy nominated, who nominated you?

Yeah, my Grammy will nominate anybody. She liked traveling Will Berries. You didn't? I mean, I didn't. I mean, if my grandfather showed up and said, hey, they're good, I respect that a little bit more, but that's just me, you know. Laney Wilson I love, she's great.

Red Clay Stray, Stephen Wilson Jr. Red Clay St strays are great good huh yeah there's good music out now it's a good time for music because like you could find things so easily you know you have to wait for the radio you just find stuff people send you stuff like in the green room all the time someone will play something like what is this Shazam it like oh this? And I'll Shazam it. Like, oh, shit. It's nice. That Shazam thing, that feature is so huge. Yeah. You know, on Google Pixel phones,

there's an option to just have it on all the time. So any time a song is playing, you can look down on your phone, it'll tell you what song's playing. I didn't know it. They still do that? I think that's still a feature. I think it's only on the Google Pixel. What was I thinking? I feel all over the place today. Yeah, you ever feel like that. Oh, yeah

Like you open your life. I haven't yeah, I didn't sleep well two days in a row I didn't sleep the night of the election. I could not sleep. I got home I was wired and I jerk off or not. No, no just sat in front of the TV I was watching professional pool sit in front of the TV. I called Dave Smith. Me and Dave Smith talked on the phone at like 3 30 in the morning. And then I finally went to bed and my wife woke up.

She's like, what happened? Who won? I was like, Trump won in a landslide. You're like the Spurs. And then she was up. I'm like, it was a landslide. Like it was a crazy landslide. It was the red wave that everybody thought

was gonna happen in 2022 Hey, Jamie, I'm hearing more and more about what we talked about yesterday about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020 Versus the amount of people that voted for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024 that they're still saying it was a giant jump. That's that's what I see too. A lot of people think it's bullshit. Could be a lot of there's a lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers because Biden got more votes than anybody by like 20 million.

It's really crazy. If you look at the chart. Well, did yeah. Did they say that the most people they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year? Yeah, that's what I don't know what the visual report is for this year But then I guess is the most consequential election. I think i've ever felt For sure for sure the way people felt about it, too The people on the left thought they were convinced that hitler was coming

They're convinced that some right-wing Authoritarians going to come down and take away all your rights. Well, that's the media does that. 100%. 100%. Not what he was saying, not what he did for four years in office. It's all the media. And we're all victim of it a little bit. Because you won't defend him or support him if you hear all these things about him, because then you've got to defend the fact that that no, he didn't really do that. He's not really a felon.

There were only misdemeanors. Texas voter turnout falls in 2024 election despite record registration numbers. This is just Texas, right? 61% cast ballots, near 6% drop from the 2020 presidential race. But the difference in the numbers nationwide is what I'm interested in, because the nationwide numbers were pretty, they're pretty consistent, like through the entire, like if you look at 2012, it's consistent with 2016, which is also consistent with 2024. The anomaly is 2020.

In 2020, everything goes way up, way up. Maybe because people were sitting at home and so bored in the city, they said, must it do, you think? Could be. Could be, because it was during COVID. Could be a lot of people weren't working, so they did have the opportunity to vote. Voting should be a national holiday. I agree. I don't understand

It's crazy that you give some people a complication like imagine you have a shithead boss. I gotta vote Why did you vote early? I was working for you piece of shit. Yeah, let me go. Let me go vote Yeah, I mean they give Christopher Columbus is a holiday dude the lieutenant Dan of 1400s, that dude gets a fucking holiday, okay? Yeah, why don't you go read what that guy did. Let's get rid of Christopher Columbus. They trained it to Indigenous Peoples Day, like, and the indigenous people are like, thanks, after you wiped out 90% of us,

thanks for giving us a day. How about we keep that day, that's fine, but how about we have an election, national election holiday? We could do it one more holiday celebrate it It's a great day people can rejoice and then I got out. Yep. It would take a lot of stress off people, too It's like today's also a day of celebration It's not this day that I have to sneak away from work and be sneaky or whatever

You should have a car it should have be a paid holiday You should expect to have to pay your employees on the day that election comes because everybody should be able to go vote Yeah, that's what you be we should make sure and we'll talk to Trump about it making a nationally mandated holiday I don't have his number. I don't know. I mean, I there's a guy in his department. I have his number We could hook it up. I know some people Yeah, dude, it was just what I mean just like what a crazy week. Yeah, very crazy What well you were one of the first guys to have him on the podcast? Did you have any hesitancy having him on at all?

um My brother actually my brother's my brother's a lot smarter than me and he said Hey, man, I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on, right? Like you could, some people could be upset about it. Right. You know?

And I thought about that a little bit and I was like, well, I don't really, like, I don't know, you know, like I have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that and it's like, it's hard to find a group that really embodies them And if anything right now for me, it seems like I don't even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties They're not it doesn't see like this isn't Democrats and Republicans. There's something else Transmorphin right now. Yeah. Yeah. And so um, I thought like I

And so I thought like I Thought well, I think I'm I just want to be able to have a chance to talk to this guy You know and the main thing for me was like um like you talked about Dana White earlier. He's really uh You know I know that you guys work together and he You know I knew that Trump's brother suffered from addiction, right? I knew that, right? I heard that or something and I looked into it and it's like, okay, he lost his brother, his brother died of addiction. So I was like, well, that's interesting to me, you know?

And I wish that people, I wonder if there's more to Donald Trump, like, is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means, you know, try to get an emotional well, like more of an emotional to talk with him about something that means, you know, try to get an emotional well like more of an emotional well to him that then it seems like that's in the public. Well, there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people. This was the idea. Like if you had on a guy like Trump, you are platforming this bad person. This was this thing. Yeah, I didn't think about that at all, but it said it's

It's an authoritarian way to regulate Conversations that let you know more about people and it's stupid because people don't want to have a nuanced perspective on anybody Look, I'm sure this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Kamala Harris. I'm like, I bet there's a person in there I bet I can get to that person. Yeah, I wanted to find that person. I don't want to hear all the speeches I don't want to hear I was raised middle class. I don't hear any of that shit. She's a roller skater You know that no, I would love to find out out. Yeah, I would love to talk to her about all kinds of shit I would I literally said like cuz there was a few restrictions of things that didn't want to talk about But I said I don't give a fuck I go get her in here like whatever you want to talk about and they want to know If I edit like this

Yeah, we're not gonna edit but Yeah, that's the same thing. I asked us is there an edit, you know I just wanted to talk I just like I feel like you give someone a couple of hours And you start talking about anything. I'm gonna see the pattern of the way you think I'm gonna see the way you process ideas. I'm gonna see whether or not you way you think I'm gonna see the way you process ideas I'm gonna see whether or not you're calculated or whether you're just free Yeah, are you comfortable with you or do you are you projecting things like she's got 80 different accents How do you decide which one to pull out? Yeah? She busts out different accents depending on who she's talking to. Yeah, they should have made a bunch of Chinese folks I would have loved her that accent. I want to see what I do that too though

I like to meet people where they're at. Oh if I see somebody else, you know, I'll be like what's happening my friend You know, I like to meet people where they are, you know Yeah, she did one with the Latinos. We should talk with a Latino accent like this is wild, but she's a chameleon But if you want to be a successful politician, that's probably a good trait. I agree. You know? It's like a comedian that's always on.

They kinda get annoying, but if you wanna be a comedian, that's probably a good trait. Wanna be a politician, you should probably be able to melt into your environment and sort of meld yourself with whatever these people want you to be. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Maybe not. Maybe it's just like the, I always feel like the environment of debates, the environment of interviews on television, the environment of anything you're doing in front of an audience, it's so fake. It's such a weird way to talk that you don't get a sense of who the person is. So like when I got to see Trump on your your podcast and you were talking about To cocaine then it makes like an owl. Oh God

It was hilarious But it was like you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out like who is this psycho? I'm sitting here talking to I remember that shit. I'll fucking make a nest in my living room, dude I'm sitting here talking to I remember that shit. I fucking make a nest in my living room, dude Fuck it. I'll scoot over the neighbors and steal some twine in my beak homie. Oh There's nothing worse than being locked out of your place on cocaine man You talking to him like as a person is like almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does. Because when he's in front of everybody talking about we're gonna make America amazing, those are great speeches.

But you don't like she had an amazing speech. When I was like she could win was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump like scared to debate her when he says all these things. But you know what what I always heard if you want to say something, say it to my face. And the whole place went crazy. And she was laughing. I didn't see that. Oh, so good. It was her best speech for sure. And it was right when they decided that she was going to run for president. Maybe that is what got people involved. Biden stepped down and she had one banger of a speech. She looked young and energetic and like,

it really made you feel like this is going to be a- She's kinda cute. She was hot. Yeah. She was younger. She was a smoke show. She's still all right. She got that thang on her, I bet.

So this- Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. You know what I'm saying? I do know what you were saying. That's why it's so crazy. And cause a lot of brothers love her too.

Everybody seems to love her. Look, if the brothers like it, she got that th thing on her. That's all I'm saying you know yeah But like that one speech was almost enough for her to win and if she just didn't talk other than speeches But they would have done they needed to do a better job with the speeches because every speech was the same And the problem with that is we were talking about there's like the internet you get to see That speech over and over you and online like and then people make compilations of speech and right in the same thing But it's like if someone goes to see your act You know they don't understand like acts like to develop a bit

It takes months and months and months to really like put it together where it's like rocks Oh, yeah And you're gonna do it the same way or slightly different every night and if someone comes to see you and goes, Theo's so full of shit man, he told us the other day that it was just the other day. Yeah. But meanwhile, he said it three weeks later, it wasn't just the other day, it was three fucking weeks ago, dude, you're just, you're repeating the same shit. Yeah, you got too many leap years, white boy, shit like that.

Exactly, so that's what they feel about like a presidential candidate that's telling the same speech over. No. Well, hey You're not supposed to go see all those speeches. But yeah You know, but the thing is you're not following the Grateful Dead here You know, it's like right Trump has a lot though. Trump has a lot that are repetitive He does but not in the same order. It's like going to see a Grateful Dead show It's like it's all over the place You know, he's when Trump gets out there. He just does talking Did you see he accepted he had this long-winded speech about the rocket that was

Like you just won the president's heat. Yeah edit that down you get That could be two minutes beautiful I was I was worried about that in the very beginning of the podcast before we got cooking when he was talking about Lincoln's bedroom. I was like, Oh boy, like where's this going? I went, I've been to Lincoln's bedroom. How was it? Uh, it was okay. I think you can bring it up actually. It's in Springfield, Illinois. Oh it is. No, he was talking about the one that's in the white house. Oh no, I've been to just his child

Before he got a leg go to his childhood home. Oh wow it's really interesting He's to keep his notes in his hat. Oh that was a good move pretty cool big-ass hats back that head wallet, baby He had that's a good move. Yeah, it's like credit cards behind your phone Except if you lose your phone you lose everything Except if you lose your phone you lose everything. You ain't losing that big-ass hat They did crazy man you ever see like how many dudes wore like fancy hats back in the day that shit just went away Did imagine if you were a kid and you're growing up in a hat family? You're like our family makes hats bro. I'm balling forever I'm gonna take over this business and then no hats if you watch there's a great

outside boxing match in Reno, Nevada between Jack Johnson and I think it's Jim Jeffries and I think this is Jim Jeffries. Yes, not that guy Another one not it's not the not comedian. Not talking about the murderer. No. Maybe. I don't think so. I think he's just a boxer.

Who was it? James Jeffreys. So see if Jack Johnson versus... This is it. Who killed the people with that ghoulet or whatever? There's a video of all these folks that are walking like to the event and every man has a fucking hat on. Wow. They all look they all have hats.

Look, they all have fancy hats. Look at all these guys are taking off their hats, waving their hats. Men left the house with a fucking hat on. Look at this. Wow. Dude, they all have these fancy hats. What happened? They're all dressed up nice with fancy hats.

First of all, good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention with that many people on the streets dressed up in suits. That's it. It's the only time you're ever going to see this. These are like regular men walking on the streets. Everybody had fancy hats on and a nice button-up shirt and a suit jacket. That's Jim Jeffries right there. Oh, those guys are good, dude.

James James Brannock. That's John L. Sullivan. No way Yeah, yeah, yeah, they got from an uh That's a guy from Monopoly. He was right there. He was a bare knuckle boxer Back in the dizzy. So and he was still famous back then Wow. Look at him putting it all together. That's so cool And that cool. They so they built this outdoor stadium to watch Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of Jim Jeffries Oh, that's how it goes Jim Jeffries is trying to make a comeback. He was a little bit older

Back then brow boxing would go until someone died. Yeah, they would have I mean, what's the most rounds they had back then? They were crazy. It was like 80 rounds or something. Like what's the longest old-school boxing match ever Jamie? I Think they had some insane amount of rounds I think good. Look at this the greatest number of rounds was 276 in a four hour and 30 minute fight when Jack Jones beat Patsy Tunney in Cheshire in 1825. Holy fuck dude. And introduced in 1867, each round of a fight would last until someone was knocked down. Wow. Bro, bro, 276 rounds is so crazy. That's when you get all your CTE in an IV bag

Just get your your CTE just hot pumped into your fucking brain I'm just joking 110. Oh my god at New Orleans. That's where it was in 18 It's well, he lived to 94, he lived to 1867, oh these are the, when they, oh because in 1893, it lasted 110 rounds. Oh my god. Seven hours and 19 minutes. It was declared a no contest, later changed to a draw.

Dude, most people couldn't go that long without even looking at their phone, dude. Much less, much less having to fend off a guy. How about having to take a shit? You're in the middle of a 200 round fight, you have to take a shit. They should have a diaper round we have to fight and shit at the same time. I would bet it would affect your punching power if you just waddle around and shit. Of course.

I don't think there's a way you can shit and punch at the same time. It would be very hard. Look that up. Very hard. Um, cause yeah, think about it. Yeah. Ugh, no. It'd be so soft.

You need to tighten all that up if you're gonna throw a good punch. Like your ass cheeks, tighten. Cause you kinda use your legs as you thrust forward. You really can't shit and punch not effectively. Fuck yeah, we cracked the code, bro. Yeah, we cracked the code. You're gonna lose that round. Yeah. So I guess they probably just piss themselves. Can't shit and punch not effectively So I guess they probably just pissed themselves I know guys who shit themselves in the UFC Multiple guys yet breaks my heart believe Tim Sylvia shit himself in a fight once

Who else someone came out there Michael Chiesa? looked over at me once while I was doing commentary and I think he got called and it was perhaps one of those situations where the fight before ended quicker so he didn't get as much warm-up time as he wanted yeah and then also he's running out there and he looked at me goes dude I'm about to shit my pants I go really goes yeah I'm about to shit my pants and he won he went out there and won first round submission because he had to because he had to yeah dude there's not. Yeah. Dude, there's another.

So is this the fight? Oh, is this another guy who shit his pants? A five fighters who pooped their shorts. Yeah, it happens, dude. This guy shit himself a little bit. Dude, I would shit myself if I had to go in there. That's crazy. Tim Sylvia definitely shit himself.

Randleman shit himself. Yeah. It happens, man. Look, you're getting your liver poundeded on you're getting need in the guts Oh, I got in a car accident once and it happened you shit yourself. Mm-hmm. I didn't want to just I didn't have a choice It just happened it wanted to she shit her pants to Justin Kitsch No, I bet dudes would pay a lot of money for that that on OnlyFans Oh, you sell them shitty drawers and that's mark goddard right there call timeout brother

Imagine if you're like face down if someone's putting you in a rear naked choke And they didn't clean the mats that good and the person before shit all over the place You get pink eye while you're getting your ass kicked God that makes me scared. Yeah, that's a scary job. That's the scariest job. You think? Yeah, I went to that fight with you.

Or no, I went to that fight, remember when me and Joey Diaz went? Which one? In New York. Oh, I was thinking of your fighters. Well, I went and saw the James J. Braddock statue before it was in New Jersey, before Dustin and um

That last fight that he had mmm no the one before the last fight a Justin Gaethje That was in no after that It was in New Jersey. Okay, the bad. Yeah Ben was in Denny. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He beat up Ben was sending me knocked him out That was after he lost his long Which one was in Jersey Islam? He didn't be he didn't beat him Islam in Jersey, right? Right, so he fought Ben was in to knee then he gets a title shot against Islam Yeah, I went with Joey we stand I went to the arm James J Braddock statue before. Mm-hmm. It was awesome, dude. His arms a monster He's so good. Yeah, it was crazy and Joey was like what do dude he was?

All loved it he's a fucking tremendous He's one of a kind and his book is great, too If you ever read his book, but um, he's sitting there. He'd been eating he'd been eating if you ever read his book, but um, he's sitting there he'd been eating he'd been eating mushrooms, you know And once he even started eating a little you could see Aaron roger start to look over, you know, he was getting curious You know, he's like what was happening, you know, that's hilarious by the sixth quarter or whatever I don't know how many how the fights go but it's like by the sixth quarter. He's just rubbing on his thighs, right? He's talking He goes who's winning dog? He's talking. He goes, who's winning dog?

That's what he kept saying to me. I can't wait to see him again. Joey used to shovel snow for James J. Braddock. Did he really? Yep. Wow. That's crazy. It's one of my favorite things that I've ever learned about him.

That's crazy. Can you imagine that? That is crazy. Um... What else is going on? Hahahaha I'm gonna see him in a couple weeks. He's coming out here. Joey is gonna start staying out here for months at a time. Yeah, he wants to get a place downtown in the club. Me too, I'm gonna come back and look in about a week and a half.

Every time he comes, like, I gotta come out here, dog. I'm like, come on, we'll make it easy for you. I'm like, we'll make it easy for you. You tell me when you want to come, you come, we'll fly you out, put you up, whatever you want, I'll get you a real estate lady. Let's get the party started. And I'm trying to bring back the church of what's happening now, because him and Lee Syatt, they were together when they were at the club together. And I'm like, come on, let's get the band back together you guys together. We're fucking amazing It was nothing like that show kept people alive that show Joey Diaz's show was one of the most ridiculous silly Preposterous shows it was so ridiculous and then he went to New Jersey, and here's the problem with me Joey in New Jersey He loves New Jersey loves New Jersey people he needs comedians

And you you forget that until you're not with them, and then you're like oh this ain't no fun He loves New Jersey, loves New Jersey people, he needs comedians. And you forget that until you're not with them. And then you're like, oh, this ain't no fun. You're just talking to plumbers or whoever's got a decent attitude or whatever, you know, a decent sense of humor. I like talking to all kinds of people, obviously. But I need comedians in my life. Like I need vitamins.

Like I need a certain amount of sunlight to get some vitamin D. I need comedians. It's too like that night that we had in that green room watching the elections How many jokes were crack how many fucking times we rag on Tony? Oh, dude. We talked Tony off the ledge We did it Tony's like got statistics 26% more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump So he had the Puerto Rican app open on his whoop brace. I'm like, they have that? What is that? Bro, the whole thing?

He was like, how many plantains have sold tonight? He was fucking losing his mind. They tried to label him as a speaker. They said he was a speaker. A speaker? That was at the Trump rally? He said that Puerto Rico was a pile of garbage these are human beings was that Adam right that's Obama oh it is a speaker yeah those are the Trump rally he was talking about Puerto Rico as a pile of garbage

dude the simple fact that Obama's talking about Tony Hinchcliffe is crazy. Bro, Obama's doing a Tony Hinchcliffe bit. There's a video of us at the mothership. What is going on? We played it yesterday, but I want to play it again, Jamie. Play the video, it's on my Instagram, of Tony is on stage in the main room. By the way, Tony goes on stage, it's like Richard Pryor just showed up. They were going nuts. He murdered. He has 35 minutes on it. Tony is on stage in the main room. By the way, Tony goes on stage, it's like Richard Pryor just showed up. Yeah. Yeah. They were going nuts.

He murdered. He has 35 minutes on it. Oh, yeah. He's on stage. And the poor old Lincoln joke. And you know. No way. At the same time?

At the same time. Yeah. Just look at this. It's amazing. It's a slide bar. It's awesome. It's amazing. OK.

We just want to get to hear the replay. It's amazing. It's a simulation for sure. We're definitely in a simulation. So this guy was on Fox talking about Tony on one TV while Tony was on stage on the TV monitor. That's unbelievable. We did it. He was so nervous because here's what was going to happen. If he lost, you know, so the way these news organizations work, they have outlines for stories if Kamala wins, they have outlines for stories if Trump wins.

If Trump lost, they were going to blame it on Tony. They had stories where they're going to blame it on that joke and they were going to say that that joke turned the tides and made people realize that Trump organizations filled with Nazis and racists and they were gonna blame Tony and Tony would have been fucked. Because then the Trump supporters would have thought that too. Right, so it was like both sides would have disliked Tony. Absolutely, absolutely. He would have had to go to Puerto Rico or Costa Rica.

Maybe. Mexico. Mexico and Puerto Ricans don't really Know they don't even don't get along that was in fighting There's always been a giant rivalry between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and a lot of really. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, man, for sure I didn't know that well, you know, there's no prouder group of Boxers, I think in the history of Earth than Mexican boxers. Like they have a, Mexican boxers are known for a specific style. Like if someone says, you fight like a Mexican,

dude, that's a huge compliment. Mexicans like Julio Cesar Chavez, fucking Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya, I mean, you can go down the line. Morales Fuck man, there's so many Manuel Marquez. Yeah, so many man. Yeah, they got just so many punches in one punch Well, they're just is a there's a culture of boxing there that goes back so far And it's so you know in with boxing it's always people that are poor that want to way out.

And one of the best ways out if you're a poor young man is you can fight. Punch your way out. You can make millions. Like Canelo, like Julio Cesar Chavez. So it's like the history of people rising through boxing. But there's a similar history in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a history, a great history of boxing too.

Really? But there was always a rivalry between Mexico Oh, I could see that because you're both Latino cultures, and you want to be the best you know oh yeah I'm trying to think if I've ever been to a boxing um Match or not you should go see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson might be the last boxing match ever I don't know if I want to see it Do you want to see it if Mike Tyson wins I? Remember watching Mike Tyson versus. Roy Jones Jr.

Yeah. And it was like two guys like beating each other up in baby diapers or whatever. Baby diapers? Yeah, bring it up. They were wearing like big diapers or whatever. No, they were wearing cups. There's a protector that boxers wear that's different than the protector that MMA fighters wear. So the protector that boxers wear is foam that covers the front of your hips and things too. Oh, maybe I'm not thinking about it.

Maybe I'm thinking about something else then. But it just, they kept hugging. This is what I believe. I believe really truly to my core that they made an agreement where Mike Tyson was only gonna hit him to the body full blast. It looked like every time he hit him to the head, he was kind of pulling back.

It just didn't seem like, this didn't seem like a real fight. Right, it seemed like a fight to the body though. Mike was hitting him to the body really hard, and I think he hurt Roy a bunch of times really hard to the body. But you know, both of these men are 50. Roy in his day, I maintain to this day,

was the greatest boxer I've ever seen. Roy Jones in his prime was a freak Like I mean a freak where he wouldn't even throw jabs. He would throw a lead left hook He would favor that over a jab, but it was as fast as a jab and people couldn't understand it Yeah, you've never been in a ring with someone that fast You look at Roy Jones highlight reel of chaos. you ever watch like Roy Jones and he was in his prime? Uh-uh. They were execution son.

It was like Mike Tyson in his prime but in a different thing. In fact in a Nas song, Nas says the new Mike Tyson is Roy Jones. Roy Jones was just executing people. He was so much faster than anybody. His timing was so good. His power. He was a sniper. Oh my god.

He was just so skillful. Who would you rather knock you unconscious you think if you had to pick a good fighter? Oh, I don't know Maybe Roy would just put it out quick just pop you on the chin and Roy or Connor though Both of them will knock you out quick you think yeah But then this is this one fight with Roy Jones with Vinny pazienza was the only fight in copy box history Where the opponent didn't land a single punch. Wow. A single punch.

This was like when Roy was trying to get the referee to stop the fight. Before that, Roy signaled to the referee, stop the fight. And the referee said no. And then Roy goes like this. He's like, look at Vinny, sorry, I got to do this. I never even seen that. He just lights it up. Bro, he was so good in his prime.

But like all fighters, they stay past their prime and people really only remember them for when they lost. You know, Roy in his prime was just something completely special. You had Allen Iverson vibe. You went to watch him just to see how long guys would last. That's what you would watch, to see what he would do to guys. I did a fishing rodeo with him once. Did you really? Yeah. He's a big fisherman. He dropped his hands put him behind his back and knocked the guy out Like lured the guy in and hit him with a one straight right hand and dropped him It was one he would just like that's why and raise he did I can't even get a fucking medium jacket off of my body

That's what blows my mind. Roy was so good. He was so good. And everybody that went in there. You cooked that brother right there. There's a thing that happens when a guy's gonna fight like, you would see it with Anderson Silva. Who is that, Bill Cartwright? Who is he fighting? I don't know. Some dude is in real trouble. They should have stopped this fight already. That dude did not need to take those other two punches Dude he was so fast

Yeah, dude Tony was Tony was Right when I walked in I hadn't seen him in months. I'm just fucking grilling him. I'm like there. He is. I'm like who's an island now That's what I said He's fucking Here's the best thing about Tony though he laughed like yeah Tony is for the joke right? Oh, yeah, like even if he's like going through it. He respects the joke and like always There's many layers to that whole thing. It's like you Tony is who he is and you you almost you respect that to the core It wasn't the best timing probably not right now. Was there a lot of supervision over him? That's what he said. No probably not but that's also organized that meeting was it's disorganized, but it's also real so it's like

There's two ways to look at it. It's like It's yes. It's like nobody proofread it Let me clear something there because we did say that they had went over his material. They didn't they did not go over his material They did someone suggested he take one joke out So he took this one joke out and he had he's like, oh, what do I put in its place? He decided to go with the Puerto Rico joke We did it! Yeah, he's just so silly.

But he's the guy. But he laughs at himself. Oh totally, but also he's, it's weird cause it's like do you want things to be tailored or do you not want them to be tailored? You know? It's like you could have a group that goes through every single joke and says no to everything.

Right. And then you get nothing. You get, you know what I'm saying? Kinda it's like how many layers of, like when you drain spaghetti or whatever you're talking about. Like how many layers of... Spaghetti. Nah, shit. I don't know, it's been a long year. I know what you're saying.

I know what you're saying. But I think when you get to a certain level of your career, you got to say no to things that are outside of comedy. If you're just coming up and someone says you want to go speak in front of the president, go out there. Make a mark, soldier. Give it your best. But if you're Tony Hinchcliffe and you just did the Tom Brady roast, Kill Tony's the number

one comedy podcast in the world I'm you know you have millions and millions of downloads every week don't do that It's just too comedy. You're really good I just was trying to tell people if you saw those same jokes on stage. He kills fucking crushes It's just the worst environment ever for it lights are bright., it's in the day. No one knows a comedian. He goes up cold. No one goes on after him. There's like his big ass pause after him.

The whole thing was like organized terribly, terribly. Just complete disorganization. It was like, there was the Trump speech, which is the big thing. Like, what do we do with all the extra time? Like, let anybody talk. Who wants to talk? This guy owns a fucking sandwich shop.

Let him come up there. Yeah, look, it's my friend Giovanni like anybody in there they were letting people that were saying wild stuff too oh they were letting anybody in there and it didn't seem like they vetted a lot of the speeches some of the speeches like what he had 40 minutes of ASMR in there they were fucking letting people do anything whenever you get an organization with us the Republicans or the Democrats you got a kind of like appease everybody and you got Psychos and moderate people and they're all together under this one banner of this one

Like if you've been off sports team, you just always like one dude on the team. That's a fucking psychopath, right? Oh, yeah, dude, don't cause any fights like leave everybody alone. Let's go. Come on. We had a brother He was slash everybody's tires, but then here's the thing we were giving him a ride home. So it's like well now we're all But that's who he was you had to respect him he was a power forward, you know, yeah Well, sometimes they're not making the best decisions people don't man a lot people don't man. I am football players, bro You get hit in the head a lot. You're gonna make some sketchy ass decisions. Nick Bosa got brave and shared his political thoughts the other night, you see that? No I didn't. Well it's just crazy how like on mainstream stuff if you share anything one way it's okay,

but you share something another way it's not okay. Right, like if you, nobody got angry at people. They made fun of people for supporting Kamala Harris. Like we made fun of Dave Bautista like because it looked just so silly like this Performative commercial where it's really important to vote for Kamala and Tim Walls Is that the manuta? The guy from Guardians of the Galaxy, okay, you know I'm talking about big jack dude. He's trying to get movies man He's wearing pearls to like red carpet events. I know what you're doing. You're trying to get those movies. You gotta like show you're an artist. You're sensitive

You're on the right side put him in the he wants to be a lead in a movie Let's be a movie star didn't fucking turn on your camera at a house and make something dude I'm telling you is the right move what he's doing is the right move Even if he's faking it you mean for Hollywood you mean yeah, yeah wear the beads where the where pearls That softens you up a little bit lose some weight lost a bunch of weight Talk shit about Trump. He's allowed to be like a tough guy talking shit about Trump Do you ever see that Jimmy Kimmel sketch they did we called Trump a whiny bitch and you ever seen it or Jimmy Kimmel called? Donald Trump that no no no no no no Bautista they bought Easter did you ever saw it?

Find it cuz it's kind of funny is he the intercontinental champion on you I have a lot of a big-time wrestler was a giant dude like fucking built like a superhero And then he went did guardians of the galaxy oh yeah with Chris Pratt. Yeah, he's a big giant wrestler Yes, now I know you're talking about but he wants to be a movie star so he's losing some weight He's a good actor too, man. He was good in that What was that movie the glass? Glass onion. Yeah, that was a great movie. He was really good in that Trying to go what I've seen just like it if you're a big giant dude and you're big muscle-bound giant dude

And you want to do like serious roles like you kind of got to lose some weight You know you got a and you kind of got to like support Kamala Harris You kind of got to like wear pearls you kind of got to like soften your stance you know you got to kind of like Be performative that you're the guy that they would want to pick because that's like part of the battle like here Let me give this. Oh, that's him. Yeah, well those Eddie bravo He's not he wears more makeup than Dolly Parton baby the guys afraid of birds Trump had his daddy pay a doctor says will feet hurt so he could

dodge the draft look at that gut like a garbage bag full of buttermilk. He sells imaginary baseball cards pretending to be a cowboy fireman. Guy's barely strong enough to hold an umbrella. Well he's working out. And where is this at Jocko's gym? I don't know. And where is this at Jocko's gym? That's pretty funny Yeah, he's a pervert dude who isn't a pervert. He's moody, he pouts, he throws tantrums. No, get those lights off! He acts like a five year old behind the wheel of a truck.

He bends over for Putin, he's a catty on social media, a middle school bean girl. The guy needs help walking downhill. Almost there, grandma. So this November, let's stop kidding ourselves. Donald Trump is afraid. I don't watch this kind of stuff look at this the punches Murrow f***ing street and being locked at hahahaha

isn't it past your jail time? Mostly, he's terrified that real red blooded American men will find out that he's a weak, tubby toddler. Mommy, take me home, mommy, I wanna go home. I'm a tough guy. Someone grab you by the p***. Wow! That closing line's pretty tough. That's not bad.

It's good. It's called the bitch. But it's like, you know what he's doing? Yeah. Trying to become a movie star. It's a good move. But the Hollywood liberals 100% love that. Well Hollywood's just crazy to me, dude. I just don't understand it.

It seems like they hate white men. Well some people that work in Hollywood I'm, don't like white men, but that's the thing about woke culture. It's like there's a hierarchy of the injustices that you have faced. White men, even if it's not you, which is where it gets prejudiced, because it was not you, white men over history have caused the most grief. They've caused the most trouble. They've been responsible for the most injustices in this country at least. You know,

slavery, redline laws, other people help with slavery. Let's don't just pin the tail on the honky donkey. Right, but in America, slaves were exclusively owned by white people. In other countries, they're owned by all kinds of people. This is where it gets weird. See, that's what we gotta do then. Well, what people don't understand is there's more slaves today than there have ever been. Nuh-uh. There's more slaves today than there were before 1865 when slavery was abolished in America.

You're lying. Nope. There's more slaves. In Libya, when we took down Libya and the rebels killed Gaddafi on television, do you ever see that? Nuh-uh. It's one of the most terrifying videos. What channel was it on? C-SPAN. Libya became for a while became like a failed state and at one point in time there were slave auctions in Libya that you could watch on YouTube. Okay. How crazy is that? Like Google the actual numbers. Oh my god. Yeah, that's real

statistic. So, and this is also one of the things that people are terrified about with this border deal, okay? Because one of the things about the border, it's not as simple as people coming over and they want a better life, of course, but it's also people being exploited and there's tens of thousands of kids that are missing who knows if they've been smuggled into child trafficking there's who knows how many people have been okay hold on a second says estimates range from about 38 to 49 point six million people are Slaves today the number of enslaved difficult people is difficult to determine Estimates range from 38 to 49 million what uh-huh?

Yeah, oh my god I Didn't have any clue. Well you have to include people that can't leave even if they're not like in cages People that are trapped right like Gaza people you mean well you know I would talk like people that work in coal mines or cobalt mines in the Congo they're essentially slaves I mean they give them the minimal amount of food and water they work in horrific conditions and they live in complete abject poverty but they're treated better than the people in Gaza though perhaps well they're all getting poison they're all getting poisoned. They're all getting poisoned pulling that cobalt out of the ground.

Yeah, but still they're getting lunch I bet. Probably not a good lunch I would imagine. Either way, yeah, you could find other spots that suck worse. But the point is, like those people you could kind of consider slaves. And then there's real slavery. You know, this friend of mine was telling me about this place that was built in Jamaica or the Bahamas. I think it was the Bahamas. And they brought in Chinese workers in like this giant ship. And he said they had this

patch of land, they put up a fence around the land, and all the Chinese workers lived on that land, and the Chinese workers built this resort there, and they worked nonstop, 24 hours a day. They built the whole thing in 18 months. They would just have shift after shift, and once it was completed, they took all the workers, put them back on the boat, put them right back to China. So what was that?

Was that slaves? That's slavery it would mean it seems like slaves like it seems like unless they paid those people an exorbitant amount of money I don't know I mean I don't know what the arrangement was they put a fence around the area they brought people in a giant ship and then they put them back on the ship and shipped them back to China like yeah a slew of fire fest remember fire fest or whatever yeah what the fuck was that those he do trying to make money right but still has your back carded over there yeah nothing to eat nowhere to

sleep definitely different than slavery but still it's like yeah it's like it's funny you think just cuz things happen a long time ago that it's not slavery today right well I wouldn't say that Fire Festival is a form of slavery. I agree. Did you see Prop 6 in California? What is that? That's on the screen. Prop 6 prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude. And it did not pass.

What? Wait a minute, what? In California? Proposed amendment to California's constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision Allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime because a lot of them gay producers trying to crank out them twinks homie That's why bro keeping my slaves. Yeah, bro They fly every now and then how would you every now and then a freaking some twink fucking clambers out of an air van

Oh here it is. It's forced labor in prisons. Yeah, it has to do with paying people to work in prisons and do, like they have to fight the wildfires and stuff. Interesting, so they want them to have to work. Wow. They just don't want to pay. Yeah, that's California.

But that is what happened, right? That was what the Jim Crow laws were all about, man. Like one of the things about slavery is slavery didn't end, boom, now let's get black people jobs. No, slavery ended and then there was this long period where black men would get arrested for anything and everything. And then they'd be forced to work.

And they had work camps. And so you were still- It was the same thing. You could just get caught and you'd be a slave. You'd get a bad cop besides your speeding. Whatever it is, you're a slave. Yeah. Speeding and you didn't have a car

and you're like, you're speeding. Yeah, you're looking at people bad. You're verbally intimidating people, whatever the fuck it is. People like, you see with the, when someone wants to target you for something, you pissed off the wrong people, they fucking come after you with the law and they can get you if they just decide that you shouldn't be free and

we're just going to, there's an industry around slave labor, which there is, there's also an industry now around keeping people in prison, right? Because the prisons are private. So it's a private corporation owns this building where you lock people up for money you get paid for them being there So who gets paid the private prison? There's contracts with the state like it's like a summer camp or something I don't know who gives the contracts but No Prisons are owned by corporations. Okay, so prisons own corporations. So no no no no no no prison is owned by a corporation So it's a business.

Okay. So they lobby to make sure that laws stay on the books. One of them is marijuana. So the prison guard lobby they were they were trying to make sure that marijuana stays illegal so that more people stay in prison because the more people in prison the more jobs they have the more hours they have the better benefits they'll have and the prison wants as many people in jail as possible. That is how they make money Wow Yeah, who makes the money? It's not the government. No well in some jails, but there's private prisons Like what are the percentage of private prisons? Well? No, I know we've looked this up, but I forget the number are they nicer I don't think so what about the Excalibur in Las Vegas? That place is a fucking private prison Dear god, I heard circus circus is going down ultimate circus circus is like how is this place legal?

Dude that was the end of 2022 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States was in private prisons. What? Yep. Which is about 90,873 people. This makes private prisons a relatively small part of the correction system, which is mostly public, which by the way is even crazier. How about the fact that 90,000 people in jail is a small percentage? We have more people in jail than any other country.

Do you know that? Yeah, and we need a few more in there too, I think. To be honest, bro, freedom is a, some people can't handle freedom. Freedom ain't free. Freedom ain't free, man. What are you eating over there? I need a hit of something, man.

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God oh Fuck I just think I saw who won the Heisman oh My god Fuck, I just think I saw who won the Heisman. Oh my god. Bro, that shit made something happen to me. Those are so strong. Wow. I'm going to join women's sports. That was hot, bro. If every time you did this and you left here and you felt like you couldn't remember things well, would you do it do that yeah yeah I would lose like a little bit of memory like where's my

keys nothing serious like you remember your name you know still remember your phone number but you like to do a little bit of a drug it's a little bit oh yeah yeah I mean one of my eyes just shut down yeah and I like And I like it. It's like, how far can we go? There's something about doing something. It's like, I think when you have addiction, you wanna do something that harms you, you know? Is that what it is? Yeah, you wanna fucking,

cause it's control. It's like, I wanna control how I feel. So even if how I feel isn't great, there's a weird juxtaposition where it's like, if I have control over it, then that's, it's almost like you're the devil that's trying to kill you, you know make any sense So if you have control like so you have anxiety and you're worried about things and so in order to Kind of mitigate that you do a little bit of damage to yourself. So you have control over the damage

Yeah, there's something about having control about how you feel So even if you feel damaged you still did it to yourself. There's like I Don't know man. I'm doing the worst job. No, I know what you're saying The self-destructive tendencies. Yes a big part of addiction, you know, yes self-destructive. It's like I just Things are feel so hectic right now. At least if I damage myself then I'm the one doing it I'm not just letting the world do it right there's in in the moment You don't see that that doesn't have any value right afterwards. You're like shit. That was dumb

But in the moment that feels like at least I'm taking control of the situation. I think sometimes you spend too much time alone. Me personally? Yeah. I think that's probably true. Yeah, I think knowing you and being your friend for many years now, I think when you struggle is when you're by yourself too much.

Yeah. Because when you're with everybody else, everybody loves you, we all have fun together. I've said it before and I'll say I'll say it again. We need that Especially us especially comedians We need to be around people that are just like us like you don't have to worry We could just talk shit and laugh and have fun. There's no like wondering where we stand with each other It's always fun. You need a home base, man

Yeah, you know and you were you were doing better when you were at the Comedy Store all the time because you were around us all the time. We were all around each other. We knew there was a place we could go where we could find like-minded people and have a laugh. You know? On a regular basis, which is like, we're so fortunate. Most people don't have a place where they can go

where they're guaranteed to see people that they love and you're gonna have a good time and just be silly With each other and then you're watching all these sets everybody's going on stage with that energy And so there's all this fun killing in the air. Yeah, I mean mothership is fun, man I would want to look for a place. I just haven't had the time. Let me ask you this year's been the craziest year You know, it's just been a crazy year. And so it's like well, it's good to be crazy because you're busy and you're doing great stuff Podcasts killing it. It's been scary, you know, it's been fun You know, I appreciate the couple times, you know, you've messaged me after a couple episodes and said hey man

That was you I like that or something. I really appreciate I want to let you know that I really appreciate that Oh, well, I appreciate what you're doing. I'm very very proud of you I'd love to see how much you've worked at it and how your podcast just keeps growing in the ranks. It's really good, man It's very authentic. It's a perfect podcast in that. It's really you you you know how to be you you real authentic Even if you're talking to Trump you're being you you talked about to a cocaine with former President Trump I know new newly elected President Trump, so it's like I just want to have a voice You know I always just wanted to have a voice ever and I even I just wanted I don't know you want to be able to Express yourself. Yes. Yeah, I just wanted things to be fair, and I just want to express

I just like yeah, there was always this feeling inside of me like I don't have a I can't speak up for myself You know and so like I think and even if I'm just listening to somebody but letting them speak It's like they're still like something that you know it means it's like I can't explain it But it's like um it's so it's like I don't know it means something to me Yeah, I think these kind of conversations are very good for you like conversations that you're having conversations that I'm having I think they're good for you. You get a chance to communicate with people that are really interesting, unique people that have lived completely different lives than you.

I got Brian Cox on the other day explaining the universe to me. Fucking, I was like a kid in a candy store. It's like so exciting to get this guy it's like Super intelligent person who's also a really good communicator could break down the fabric of the universe for you And let me know about it Being like when does anybody ever get that opportunity to sit down and talk to someone I have three hours Yeah, man Did I had a lady who had been driving cats across the country for two years in a fucking tour bus right and they perform? And they do musical acts

Right and bro, I'm not even joking you it was one of the most fascinating things I've ever heard in my life Oh, yeah, cuz her commitment to it. Mm-hmm Imagine she got her CDL so she could drive the fucking bus because it was so expensive What's the CDL commercial driver's license license. And she goes around doing a feline shows around the whole country. And she's been doing it for 15 years. Who do you think she voted for? That's a good question.

I don't know. Whoever, hey, grab him by the pussy, probably that guy. Do you know that crazy cat ladies, that there's a reason for that? It's the same reason that like, it's a cat parasite, toxoplasmosis. So you're saying it's a medical ailment? Makes you aggressive.

No, it makes you aggressive. Yeah, I bet a lot, like that's that term, cat lady, crazy cat lady, that's a real thing. That lady's got a parasite, she's got a brain parasite. Toxoplasmosis. You can't tell them that. Oh, I bet I could test them. Oh, bro. I could get a cheek swab. Hold that lady down. Give me a cheek swab. I guarantee you that lady's got it. Bro, that lady, what do you, bro, I used to live with a dude, bro. I used to live with this dude, right? And I ended up

doing fucking a lot of drugs or something and whatever. And I fucking cut a window into my closet, dude. And it was to the neighbors apartment I thought it went outside I got kicked out oh my god before that I live with this dude and he would get really you're that lady in the apartment next door and you hear a saw some dudes got no hole in your fucking apartment yeah man I just that's the crazy thing about apartments right this crazy thing about cocaine You want to hear something crazy Trump at the day of the election Dana White told me he'd been up for 72 hours I go how's that possible? He goes dude. He's a freak. It's so weird well

Yeah, I'll say some things here's things that like whatever you think about There's things that the guy is as resilient No one could go through all that shit when the Justice Department started to fuck him over That's when a lot of people were like you know what? the Jut the only thing we should be able to believe in in this country is at least the justice system. And if they're fucking him over, and then he got shot at a couple of times, dude, he's a quarter of fifty cent. You know what I'm saying? He's like...

So it's like, how- what else does it- you know, at a certain point you're just like, I gotta bet on this dog. You know, even if it's like you don't even like it's like this motherfucker this dude you got a bet on that dog and it if not it's just bizarre you know I mean the guy gets up and says fight fight fight after you got shot in the ear he's not freaking out he's oh my god I got shot get me out of here. They're shooting. He looks no stop stop fight Yeah fight fight dude. I stubbed my toe. I called my assistant a faggot So yeah There's something special about that guy

You know and if you're lying about him, and I know you're lying about him Why am I supposed to trust you that you're lying for a good reason? Right if you keep repeating these same hoaxes they keep repeating Obama was repeating at one of his speeches He said about those white supremacists. They're very fine men on both sides. That's not true. Yeah, it's not true Well, why I don't understand why Left-leaning media, which is mostly, are calling people white supremacists, dude. Jewish. Did you just say that? Yeah, I just don't understand. Left-wing media is mostly Jewish?

I mean, according to my Jewish friends, it is, you know? But why do they hate white guys? It's just woke things, man. It's just virtue woke bullshit. It's like the- I just don't understand it. Well, because the the hierarchies is have experienced a polar shift. Okay, so here's what it is. If you go back to the 1960s, the kind of racism that people faced like before the race riots and all that was horrific. Because it's just 100

years removed from slavery ending and the echoes of that- Oh, it's still in our genes. Yes, but the echoes of that were much more prevalent then. And so black people were heavily discriminated against, gay people were heavily discriminated against. People recognize that that's wrong. Young people go to universities, they get taught that it's wrong, they recognize the sins of the past, and then they over-correct.

And by over-correcting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized. So you give people, like Vivek calls it, the tyranny of the oppressed. So the oppressed, the previously oppressed now have a social hierarchy, a stance, they're a higher level. If you're a black trans woman, you get to say the things first at the meeting. You know, let the black trans woman talk. There's a hierarchy in all woke culture. And if you are a white male who's heterosexual,

you have to be non-binary, because otherwise you can't get in. You gotta be a they, them, because then now, okay, now you're marginalized like all you got to do is like change your program that's the the lowest level of entry is non-binary straight man you just say you're non-binary and they'll get you just say I just don't feel like a man or one me like fuck chicks you're you know what you're doing you little chameleon yeah you're just a little secret care

bear or whatever you're sneaking around but little secret care bear or whatever. You're sneaking around, but there's Hierarchies and gay people because gay people have been previously oppressed gay people weren't even allowed even in 2013 up to then Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago That was their political talking points marriage should be between a man and a woman. We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago. That was their political talking points. Marriage should be between a man and woman. So now kids realize how stupid that is. Young kids generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past than we do. Unless we're paying attention as we get older we pay more attention to what's going on before, but now kids

immediately are aware of how fucked up colonial society has been, how they've conquered North America, killed the indigenous people. So they want to like, re-correct things. Oh yeah, if I was ever in office, dude, Native Americans are getting a lot of shit back immediately, dude. Well they already have casinos. Huh? They already have casinos.

Yeah, but did they want casinos? I want them to have back whatever they want. Well here's the thing about that. They're getting the rivers back, they're have casinos. Huh? They already have casinos. Yeah, but did they want casinos? I wanted them to have back whatever they want. Well, here's the thing about that. They're getting the rivers back, they're getting the lakes back. They were taking it from each other too, dude. It's like... No, I agree. Everybody acts like Native Americans were like, everybody's just like whistling and just shaking hands,

but they were fighting. Yeah, 100%. But you'd have to figure out, like, who owned it, like, at that time, Yeah. and give it back to them, and then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back. Because if you want to go back to the old ways, that's the old ways.

You want to go back to when the Comanche ran Texas. Like, okay, good luck. But you know what the Comanche's favorite thing was doing? Raiding other tribes. They loved that. They were gang bangers. Yeah, they were gang bangers. They would show up in other tribes and slaughter people.

And they wouldn't just slaughter people. They would torture them. They would cut their arms and legs off, throw them on a pile of fire. Nobody ever surrendered, ever, because they knew that there was no leniency. You're gonna be tortured and killed. There was 100%.

Fight to the death. Not being able to surrender because you had no choice but to fight to the death. That's wild. The concept of surrender was to fight to the death. That's the concept of a surrender was Completely alien to Native Americans. Yeah, they fought to the fucking death and they fought each other to the death and there was battles Between all of them and they they conquered and they made alliances and you know, especially little bighorn They all got together and fucked up Custer

But there's so many different tribes that conquered so many different, and you'd have to go back to when. Right, you're like, when? Well, you got it because you killed all these people. Let's go back to the Algonquins. Let's give it to the fucking Apaches. Let's get like, you'd have to figure it out, man. Like this was a gigantic- You got to tickle a dream catcher to get the truth. This was really like, in some ways, other than the violence. It was like a utopian existence. It was these people followed the buffalo around,

ate every part of it, used their skins to make their houses, traveled on horseback, following them around. They didn't even make art, dude. The Comanche didn't make art. They didn't make anything. Why, they were just warriors? Just warriors eating meat.

All they did was eat buffalo and kill everybody else So if you so so is it weird that we feel bad about that like is that a trap? Like that's what I'm wondering does that make does that question make sense? Well, that was the way they lived You know, I mean is that better than drone bombs in Yemen, you know when we sit here comfortably in this fucking Austin warehouse Is it better? Is that better? No. The whole thing is fucked. It's fucked that Gaza's going on.

It's fucked that they're using these poor Ukrainians like fucking meat for the Russian war machine. The whole thing's crazy. It's all bad. But the crazy that was going on back then was a one-on-one crazy. It's a different kind of crazy. It was like there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses

or they had these, you're gonna go kill them and take that thing from them. And if you knew that there was a camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge and they would be in bed at night, you would come in the middle of the night and slaughter everybody. And they did that to each other.

They did that to each other. So it was a horrific way of existing. Because sometimes there's this vision that you romanticize that culture, right? I do that a lot. I romanticize things that I don't know about, right? Mm-hmm. Because it just seems like something like, oh, that's romantic or something, you know? This was a culture of warriors. It was fucking hide and go seek for real.

It was a culture of warriors. like this whole country was filled with Nomadic warriors yeah, and most of them got killed by fucking smallpox That's what's the crazy oh most of them have got killed by the flu and all sorts of diseases that came over with the Europeans How gay must that have fell dude you're fucking warrior, right? You're a fucking warrior, right? Suddenly you get a fucking couple of bumps. Some dude sneezes on you at the depot. You go to the training depot to drop off some fucking skins. Some dude sneezes on you and that's a wrap.

Yeah, you're like, you've been training all day, dude. And some guy just fucking doesn't wash his feet for half an afternoon. Or just came here off a boat. Stinky bitch was breathing shit, shit air, and drinking shit water, you know? Like, can you imagine the hygiene on those boats? Oh, Columbus' ship? It was like the first Burning Man, dude.

That place was a dump, dude. I heard the pent didn't even have any chicks on it, dude. It's like, there's an example. Columbus is an example. Could you had done it I mean probably if you live back then that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored But you're in them It's early morning to you a lot of show up

You would want to try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean if you're a young man And you just needed something in your life And you knew the dudes did it and you just eat beef jerky for three months And you make it across the ocean and when you get to the other side there's gold everywhere. They didn't even know where they were. But if you read the accounts there was a priest that traveled with them, some sort of religious man that traveled with them. They kept a detailed diary of the horrific things that Columbus' men did.

They bashed babies on the rocks. They told certain men Why they had to give they had to give them their weight in gold and if they did they would chop dudes arms off in front Of everybody they enslaved these people and use them for their gold because these people had no use for gold They didn't know how valuable gold was when they got to the Americans exactly exactly. Yeah People they just slaughtered people. They just slaughtered people dude. There's horrific Depictions of what Columbus's people did we romanticize romanticize nature so much and it's really vulgar. Isn't it? Well, it's just humans have always done this to each other it for all of human history

The strong groups of men with weapons invade people that aren't prepared and they take all their stuff and they conquer them. It's always happened. It's the most common thing. If you go back and look at history, there's a bunch of common things. There's an increase in the complexity of architecture and the design of the cities. There's machines. All these different things improve, but along the way the consistent thing is war It's constantly happening from the beginning of time as early as we know tribes We're battling other tribes and back then when there wasn't that many people wasn't that many resources and you were competing to see whose genes Spread it's just natural you develop tools and weapons and then that's ingrained in our fucking DNA.

So here we are in 2024 with iPhone 16s and Starlink, and we're still locked into this tribal war mindset because that's how humans evolved. And that's the scariest thing about being alive today is that we're so advanced, we're so much more civilized than at any other point in human history and yet same amount of people if not more are dying senselessly all the time. Right, like we're civilized on the outside but there's a part of us that will always

be uncivilized? Yeah, well the part of it is war, right? And other parts of the world are not as calm as us. You know, there's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous. Yeah. as calm as us you know there's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous yeah there's places in the world where you can't go without getting robbed or shot yeah Memphis first of all Memphis is bad dude it's where Elvis came from huh and he left too where's Graceland actually Graceland you know what's crazy about Graceland?

It's in Memphis. And it's cool. You go out, they let you in the backyard after to smoke and Elvis' grave is right there. You could smoke right in front of Elvis' grave? You could smoke 17 centimeters from Elvis' grave or 80 centimeters. That movie, that Elvis movie was so good. Which one? The one with his girlfriend?

Where Tom Hanks plays the Colonel? Did you see that one? Oh yeah. What's that was his name Austin Colonel? What's the name that played Elvis? Austin Butler is really good. Yeah, he fucking he nailed it. He was really good. You really believed that he was Elvis What a crazy story. Yeah Elvis was the first guy to get way too famous the first guy that was just way too famous Yeah, like there was no one that famous before Elvis. No, there wasn't. Well, yeah, there was Jesus probably who else maybe Jesus Constantine Jesus got his reps like he got his after appreciation after he was gone. Yeah, you know sort of like Kurt Cobain Yeah, kind of it's a good point, huh?

I mean people love Kurt Cobain while he was alive, but I think they really appreciated him after he was dead There's certain there's certain guys. What do you think you what what do you? What are you doing? What are you gonna do when you die, dude? I'm not doing shit, I'm dead. All right, we'll see about that, huh? Well, we'll see about that. That's what's interesting. Imagine if you really do go to heaven and St. Peter really is there with a book. You're like, this is crazy.

First thing you're gonna think is this dude's gay as fuck, I think. With that robe? Yeah, you roll up. Some dude has a checklist or whatever. Imagine you're the most enlightened being. It's like trying to get in a hide or whatever. You're the most enlightened being ever, but you walk around with a robe on. Robes are stupid. I never want to wear a robe

Have you wore a robe when if I have to go to like a massage place you gotta wear a robe before you take the robe Off mic. Okay, you're gonna see me in my underwear in five minutes. So why don't we just do it now? It's flirting It's laundry a rope. Yeah It's lingerie. A robe? Yeah dude. A robe is just male lingerie. Why would God be wearing a robe with a rope tie? Bro, don't you know about pants? I don't know. You can get yourself a pair of Origin stretchy jeans. They're great, man. They look like jeans, but they feel like fucking sweatpants. God. Why are you wearing a robe, man?

You think God's got that thang on him or what? What do you think? I probably got a hog. You think? He got that thang on him or what? What do you think? Probably got a hog. You think? He created the universe. Yeah. Oh my God. But it's too big?

I bet you would want it. I bet you would want it. If you saw it, you'd want it. I wouldn't tell you. I wouldn't go up to it. Imagine it just has a magical attraction. You're like, you're not even gay, but everybody's gay for God. Hey, look, I'll tell you this.

I might walk up to it, but I put sunglasses on first, dude. If God's real, he made gay people anybody's yeah gaze a choice. I think gay is a choice for some people Let me be real clear about this. I think there's some people that are open-minded and say I'll try being gay for a while It's not me. Maybe it's you Greg Fitzsimmons said he almost tried it and he panicked in the last minute ran away Yeah, I would Do it I feel like I feel like it's like a late night activity stuff doesn't happen nine in the past one Yeah past 1 a.m. I like to get to bed at a decent hour. My point is God made gay people Yeah, so it's clear if God made everything he made people that are gay the craziest religious answer like Ben Shapiro gave me this answer Mm-hmm. said he thinks you should ignore, don't do it because it's a sin, just like you want

to murder people but you don't murder them. Like bro, how much do you want to murder people? It's like, because gay people want to fuck every day. Like you know, who wants to, if you want to murder people every day, check yourself in. That's a crazy comparison. Like the gay thing is literally your sexual expression. Like you're attracted to other guys. So if you're not attracted to other guys,

do you think, are you sure God wrote that down? Are you 100% positive that God really thinks that's a bad idea, but yet he made people that have that urge? Right, it wouldn't be fair if he did that. It wouldn't be right. I think the craziest thing is, I think if if you the first gay dude must have been like what's going on You know like he's sitting there with his wife or whatever and his buddy comes over to like

You know to just look around or whatever cuz they know that much stuff back then and his buddy comes over just to like look Around or tell him about it like an animal he saw or something. He just starts thinking man. I'm gonna fucking I bet I'm gonna get this little rabbit I bet it existed from the jump. No rabbit little rabbit. What do you think is a gay dude? Get that little rabbit Booty right? I think gay guys have been here from the beginning Snort that little fucking you know why why? Because I think human beings... That little dirt oyster.

You little... Jesus Christ! I'm just saying, bro! What do you think if you're... If the thoughts have to come in your head, something puts the thoughts in you. I think it starts in the thoughts. I don't think it starts in the DNA.

Well, it might start in the DNA too. There was a... I think, see if you can find this, I think it was University of Rome They proposed a theory that there was a variation of the X chromosome That existed in women that are very promiscuous and that these very promiscuous women had a disproportionate Amount of gay sons. Oh my god Yeah

So the idea is that these women are just so, they're so dick hungry that it literally passes on through their genes. Where was it? Was it in, it wasn't in Rhode Island, was it? No, but that could happen in Rhode Island. Providence would be a good place for that. Isn't there like a gay Mecca that's kind of there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Provincetown, I think. Yeah, Jeff, what's his name used to party there? Jeff from this comedy store. I think Provincetown is Massachusetts. But there What's his name used to party there Jeff from this comedy store? I think Provincetown is Massachusetts, but there's I know what you're talking about There's a thing in Rhode Island, then there's Fire Island in New York But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women like really promiscuous They wanted a bunch of different sexual partners. Mm-hmm at this same that it might be actually a gene thing See the gene thing.

See, the gene thing is weird, man, because Brett Weinstein explained this to me. He said, do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who's hot? And I said, no, what's the difference? He goes, well, a beautiful woman is a woman that you would want to have a long-term relationship and raise children with.

And then a hot woman, like a woman who's wearing very skimpy clothes and very like looks like she's right Like really made up very the idea that that's attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes Quickly without any consequences So the this person right right you wouldn't have to have a relationship with that person But it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes like as primate just spray and stray kind of thing Like Monsanto or whatever fertility the amount of children they have I think or something I thought it was I thought it was the promiscuous women. I think

I'll show you the title doesn't say that there says that I hope that one of this is their interpretation. This is a Yeah, that's around the time gay gene survived evolution as it is carried by mothers who have more children. But guess what? If you have more kids, it means you like dick. I think they were talking about promiscuity, though. However, a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and their mothers and maternal aunts who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives

of straight men. I think we need more gay men in some of these areas. Well, hold on a second. Doesn't that make sense though? That would make sense in terms of natural selection. Because if you're someone who's over having kids, you have too many kids, you have 10 children, I would see how nature would be like, you know what? We don't need to spread these genes as much. Let's make a couple of these gay

Right nature's like let's even things out, right? Yeah. Oh, I think sense nature wants people to balance Yes, balance. Yeah, and if someone has ten kids and everybody else has 10 kids, that could get out of hand real quick. So I can see how if you have a lot of kids, nature would be like, you know what, let me do this. What was that, where was that study done from? Where you said? University of Rome?

University of Padova in Italy. Okay. And just as there's people that's gay, there's people that are non-sexual at all, really. 100%, which is stay out of the fight. You of the fight You don't belong to 2a2 club plus a yeah, whatever that is so what is it? It's Qbd what is it LGBT LGBT? Q2 AI plus a is asexual stay out of it. Yeah stay out of this yeah your fight Yeah, they got it some people It's not your fight. Yeah, you're just like

You don't even have sex with anybody Yeah, what if you're just jerking off at your house? Are you in that or what? Like what is that who are those people right? That's lonely sexual. Yeah an L. I think they're gonna put robots in there You see that you see that robot cutting hay the other day I did not pull that up if you don't mind with a scythe like the reader like a Reaper. Yeah, it was a Little bit of like a not a slave bot or whatever we're talking about robot bodyguards that in the future You'll have robot bodyguards. You can go anywhere you want That'd be cool

But then like the second you start you got a run they're gonna be like all right And then they'll run it's gonna take half a second half a second kills everything I bet they just pick you up, and they run with you Just carry you There we go ideas is not real. That's not real Jamie you're a party pooper Super real you see that pod where they're telling me that is so real. Yeah, that's real. Go back. One hundred percent that's coming. Yeah, sure, but yeah.

I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs, there's a lot of those jobs that are going to be taken by like unskilled labor jobs are all going to be robots. But don't you think at a certain point that we shouldn't have that? Like at a certain point, should an AI, if it doesn't help us be human, that at a certain point we should stop it? That's how I feel like. Oh yeah, yeah. But you feel like we're there now?

They should have stopped it a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they should have stopped it a long time ago. If you want humans to survive, you should have stopped it a long time ago. If you want the human race as it is now, you want this to stay, that doesn't make sense because you're making something way better.

You're 100% gonna make something and you're gonna give it autonomy and you're gonna give it sentience And it's gonna be infinitely smarter than us. It's not gonna be restricted by any biological needs. It's not gonna be greedy It's not gonna be mean. It's not gonna be malicious, but it might decide we're useless They might decide that it definitely doesn't need us polluting the ocean Fucking up the fucking rivers and risky yeah nuclear waste it's gonna be like what are you doing you morons why are you idiots cracking atoms stay out of that like you don't even know what you're doing here's here's free porn and a fucking VR mask just you give you free food have a blast yet. You stop breeding well the population will just drop off a cliff

They just I saw um they um Were we talking about a second ago robots yeah, oh They're killing the airport you want another yeah, I'll take another one man. I need another soda or something You got anything on you in here? We got coffee We got coffee once again kill cliff if you got one Want some coffee you might as that coffee? Yeah Yeah, it's a clean mug it is warm coffee. I came out of the dishwasher Why do you poured it with one hand trapped underneath that arm?

Challenging myself as wrist ability that is wrist ability. That was all wrist. You didn't move your arm at all, dude. You were all wrist on that gym. That's hard to do, man. The wrist is the weakest link. You ever do wrist curls? I'm shocked at how weak bitch ass my wrists are. Oh, it's amazing.

Well, it's amazing whenever you take like in jujitsu classes how the first thing you start to learn is to control the wrist. It's crazy. It changes everything. Whenever you take like in a jujitsu class is how the first thing you start to learn is control the wrist It's crazy changes everything especially guys with big hands Yeah, you'd grab like a guy with a basketball player style his hands. There's this dude named semi shilt He used to fight in the UFC semi semi shilt. He was seven feet tall Oh, wow, and the problem with semi is if you got on top of him. He just grabs your wrists You can't get your hands free He just grabs your wrists. You can't get your hands free. Mmm

Cuz yeah, yeah fucking baseball mitts for hands just wrapped his hands around you that's semi-shelter Wow He was K1 Grand Prix winner. I know he looks like Zach Brian a little seven foot tall. He was a beast, dude fought in MMA to Wasn't wasn't a good grappler. Unfortunately, that was kind of his downfall, but had a nasty front kick to the body. Yeah, he fought Peter Aerts. He fought everybody, man. Sammy was good. And he was real tall and real good at utilizing that height.

Wow. It would seem like I would be scared to be that tall in MMA, because there would be more of you to be attacked by. Sort of, but you're way further away. The whole thing is distance, where you could effectively strike them them and they can't strike you Yeah

Like a guy built like John Jones has the perfect fighters frame because he's still very strong He has a lot of muscle, but he's also long and lean So he's not relatively bunk bulky compared to his weight because he's long and stretched out Yeah So he can hit you from here and you can only hit him from here. This amount of distance is so huge. If you have a distance of like that much where a guy can hit you and you can't hit him,

you have to cross that, and you're so vulnerable while crossing that. And if a guy's a good counter striker, and he's active, and he's long, they're so hard to get in on. So a guy like John That that's always gonna be an advantage and then with John if you do get it on that's no picnic because he's an elite grappler So he's gonna strangle you he's gonna throw you to the ground like you are you're fucked

You're in this fuck zone on the outside is kicking this shit out of your knees John was on the nastiest like side kicking kicking people's knees out. Yeah. Most dangerous guy. Very dangerous. People say that he's Dana White's favorite fighter. Is that the truth do you think? Well Dana White says he's the greatest of all time. Right. Which a lot of people say. Yeah. I don't I go back and forth on what I think the greatest of all time means but if you want to... That's a good question. If you want to say like who dominated his division longer than anybody who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division and who never lost that's John Jones the

only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight it was Dominic Reyes was coming up he's in his prime it was a really good fight a really close fight but John won what I think was a split decision and then he had a split decision with a single Silva Tiago Santos, but Tiago Santos He blew out both of Tiago's knees Tiago needed knee surgery on both of his knees after that fight I think that was a split decision. That's the bottom line is John won all those fights and then you know He wins the heavyweight title

too. It's tough to argue he's not the greatest of all time. I say you know if you had to only pick one I would pick John but I don't like only picking one because there's a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time. I always say Mighty Mouse because Mighty Mouse would do things things where you like what the fuck did he just do he when he fought ray borg He tossed him in the air and caught him in a fucking arm bar on the way down Oh God, you ever see that no, I never seen it's one of the craziest things

I've ever seen a guy do inside the cage He threw this dude through the air and caught a flying arm bar in the air fuck It's so fast like when it turned to me. It's like when I just think watch this throws him Bro, wow dude, bro, bro. If that dude ain't good at gift-wrapping you got the wrong guy I'm crazy that is what look how crazy this is in the middle of the air He switches to an armbar on an elite fighter in a world championship fight. That's like a stunt That's like a stunt move if you saw that in a movie be like shut the fuck up. Nobody can do that, right? He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight

Yeah, it's crazy how many of those guys would be like or like Hollywood stunt man You know and then you gotta you also, like, if you just look on record, this is where it gets crazy. If you just look on record of accomplishments against champions, you kind of have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all time, which is so crazy. He's one of only three two division champions, right?

He is, how many have been two? You have Connor you have DC you have Alex? I think that's it didn't to per no no I think that's it Amanda do this that doesn't really count because 45 it does count but 45 is kind of a non-existent weight class He's like doesn't exist. He's a hunter She was fighting girls that could have fought 35 It's it's real but like 45 is the most one 45 for women is the most shallow division in MMA So yes, you would say Amanda too So it's a small percentage of people that have achieved that and he achieved it in record time He's knocked out so many fucking champions knocked out Jamal Hill

not beat the shit out of Yuri Prochaska knocked him out in the second fight that was crazy bro hunted him bro bro that guy's unbelievable watching him he's a fucking monster dude he's a monster he's a force what he did to Khalil Rowntree was a clinic Khalil's amazing he's amazing to do that to a guy like Khalil like that was a clinic in like elite world-class MMA. And at first the first two rounds you're like what is this like what's going on Kalil's in it They're both in it, but then you start to see that um, Per is hunting. It's like this hunting. Yeah, the pressure never ends Yeah, and you're like oh my god

It's like literally watching one of those snake like a snake when they're just kind of like, like did you see that snake that ate that deer, it was like a 77 pound deer or whatever? Yeah, I did see that. You did? Of course, I see all that shit. Shit's crazy, dude. Bring that up, bring that up with that big dog, man. I'm glad he says snake because that's kinda how Pereira

moves, he moves like a snake, like he pulls back and then he strikes forward, he pulls back, he's a master at just getting right outside of your shots and then his shots are coming in right behind him. And he operates at his own speed. He's almost like Alvin Camaro is a football player that does that. He operates at his, it's a speed you've never seen.

It looks normal, but it's different. Well, it varies a lot too. Like sometimes he moves fast and sometimes he moves slow. It's very hypnotic. Yes, it's hypnotic. It's also unique. He's got a unique frame, so he kind of looks, he moves different on design.

Like he doesn't switch his hips when he throws kicks, so you don't see him come until it's too late. So he's standing in front of you, and when he kicks, there's no movement of his shoulders. He's just throwing these kicks out, and they land. And they're not as hard as if he put his whole body into it but it's hard enough where you're like Oh, no

And you get hit with a couple of those three four or five of those all of a sudden you're like I can't walk anymore And now he's hunting you and he's hunting you yeah I would put him already in the car I don't think he's better than John Jones greatest of all time But I already put him in the conversation as a potential grace of all time nominee oh he's fucking he's right there he's the male Katniss Everdeen he's only been in MMA for a few years a hunter and he's only been in the UFC for a few years yeah it's crazy a couple of MMA fights other than the UFC and then the

UFC for this run at the top of the division just Smashing everyone to obliterate. So then you got Khabib undefeated. Oh, yeah You know, what is the door to the prayer to do? Oh George St. Pierre another two-division champion? That's right. George wanted 85 as well. That's what I almost forgot George Yeah, so George one of the greatest of all times for sure. Yeah, I saw him conversation I got to see him in Canada. Anderson in his prime. Anderson in his prime is in that conversation. You gotta look at him like in their, In the moment.

Whenever there's a moment, a time period, of like this amount of years to that amount of years, well, let's all agree that this is the prime. Forget about when they should have retired. Let that go. Just talk about them when they're at their best, who is the best? That's a good point.

Yeah. Because everybody that's doing great, you wanna stay as long as their best. Who is the best? That's a good point. Yeah. Because everybody that's doing great, you want to stay as long as you can. It would be weird if you didn't probably. But you can't judge them by how they were when they should have gotten out. Right. Because it's just a foolish endeavor. They shouldn't have been fighting a killer at 42 years old, you know, natural. And it's timing too. Yeah, but there's just a lot. When fighters fight late into their career, you gotta kind of erase that when you think about

their ultimate expression. I feel like their prime is their ultimate, it's everything they could do. They did everything right, they crossed every T, they measured all their food, they fucking did the cryo chamber, and they did saunas every day and got massages and were sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills and

they were going over moves their coaches, they had a battle plan, everything. So those guys, you can only do that for so long. That's like a nine year at the best. When you're at the, so you gotta look like in that when like fador in pride you gotta look in that window don't look at fador now and you know guys are knocking him out and it's just not the same he's an old guy's been beaten up a bunch of times still a bad motherfucker but it's not not that dude who was running pride in the early 2000s right it's not fair yeah you got

to look at them when they're in BJ Penn at his best yeah the BJ Penn for a few years I say is as good I know you talk about him a lot I've heard you speak about dude you just had us in this when he was in his prime it was just a matter of was BJ gonna get him in the first round was he gonna get him in the second round BJ was hyper aggressive and just unbelievably talented I wasn't watching back then and dexterity dude. He had crazy dexterity He's the governor of Maui isn't here. No no no no he was running for the governor of Hawaii. Did he win? No, he didn't win. Oh No, I went to Maui not too long ago. Maybe four months ago. Maui's awesome

Yeah, it's all but we went to the place for the hurricane where the fires were. It blew my mind man It's still nothing right? It was unbelievable. Yeah, it was it was just like it was unbelievable to see what it occurred, you know and just like It's crazy how quickly we just as like How we move past certain tragedies, you know, like we don't mean to it's just the news cycle does and you know We get kind of addicted to the news cycle and so then it's just the news cycle does and you know, we get kind of addicted to the news cycle and so then it's kind of hard, you know. But it was...

I'll tell you one thing, the way the administration handled that, I think, put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine. I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can't do that. You can't, while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here. Because then it's like, why are you deciding in this manner that you don't wanna help people

that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever? Why are you deciding to give them $700? Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist. Not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs, right? Because one of the things that's going on with this is like they got to do insurance and they go through insurance and this and that. But meanwhile, these people are still paying mortgages.

So like what happens? And it's hard to figure out there, Joe, because a lot of people, they live as like second and third generations all living in the same home. So like what happens? And it's hard to figure out there, Joe, because a lot of people, they live as like second and third generations all living in the same home. And they've also a lot of, you know, how Hawaii is, they like, they'll like take little pieces of land. It's like, you know, people will build like something small and just live in somebody else's yard, that kind of thing.

It's very like, you know. There's only so much land, but the problem is the land where that fire hit was very valuable. Oh yeah, it's like this perfect slope looking down at the ocean. What I would be fearful of, and if I was someone that was working in the government that wanted to protect people from being victimized, I would say, hey, let's make sure that this land doesn't get snatched up. Let's make sure that these people get their land back.

That'd be the first thing I would say. If they all want to sell out to a resort and they make a decision on their own, you know, that's one thing, but if they get hit with a wildfire and then all of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild, they don't have the finances to rebuild, maybe there's a struggle with insurance, who knows, who knows?

Maybe you didn't pay your insurance that month, who knows? And now all of a sudden this land gets snatched up and you're like, whoa Yeah, because if they just like one of the things that the governor was talking about was like Turning it into a park or something like that. What did he say acquiring it for the state? What was his exact term that he said, but he said it like right after the tragedy It was like dude this not the time to say it. It's not the time to ever say it It's not the time to ever say you're gonna take people's land and and turn it into a park when they as they just got hit By a fire so now you used to live in this amazing place with a killer view not anymore

Yeah, now the government's gonna take your land why because you got in a tragedy what yeah, I got double fucked You got double fucked you don't even keep the land. land like you can't even rebuild there No, not anymore. There was a tragedy here like wait a minute Well that I think that's a weird thing when you don't feel like as a person that your government is gonna support you I think that's but that's probably like a feeling why that sounds like the opposite It's like your government's trying to rob you right like did you find it find the quote that he said? Cuz I got it we got to read the quote because quote is like, it made so many Hawaiians so pissed off. Tulsi was so pissed off. BJ was pissed off. Everybody was like, this is crazy. How can you say that right after a tragedy like this?

Yeah, I remember. I went there. I just walked up to the fire department that was up the hill from there. Oh, man. And I just walked up and I was like, hey, is there any way that I could go see what happened? When I was looking for it, this would like to, is there any way that I could go see what happened? When I was looking for it, this says that the video was shortened and it makes the comments distorted. It distorts Hawaii governor's comments about the state buying land in Lahaina. So what are the actual, what did he actually say though?

I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land so that we could put it into workforce housing, to put it back to families, or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost. We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place, and Lahaina will rebuild. The tragedy right now is the loss of life. The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the Banyan tree may survive. But we don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first.

Hmm. So maybe some of their goal, maybe some of their goal is to preserve it. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Say that again. Scroll back. This is interesting. We don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first. I think what they're probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it.

So them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it I'm selling it and putting something there But it still seems like overreach if you're living in the fucking place where the state's gonna take the land Well, it'd be very scary is just a regular person like yeah So I'm gonna lose so I'm either gonna lose my right bland from to here or to here right like where am I going now? What what am I doing? You know and you don't hear anything about it Yeah, you don't we looked it up once there was a time where the government accidentally over sent money to Ukraine

They sent them six billion dollars. They shouldn't have sent So we looked up how much would it have cost to rebuild every house in Maui from the fires? It's five billion. So the extra money that they accidentally sent to Ukraine, they could have sent there and rebuilt every house and had a billion dollars left over. But we have to give you $700. That's disgusting. That's disgusting.

Like if you want us to pretend that we're all on the same team, you got to treat us all like we're on the same team. You can't like be throwing all this money into Ukraine and then there's places in America that suck and you're not doing anything to help these folks. Like yeah, that's just yeah and people people say like well your tax dollars don't affect you but at a certain point it's not even about that it's just like do you not like if I'm if I'm an American and I'm contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system, does the system not care about me, you know? But I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways, so...

Well, I think whenever you have a system... I'm out of my mind. System, you know, the system is a bunch of people. And so when you have a bunch of people, an enormous amount of people, it's too many people to think about as individuals. You think about it as numbers and that's like the sort of sociopath version of a government. They just think of you as a number. Yeah.

But when people start to lose their, like if you start to lose your sense of being an American then you start to, that's big for a lot of people, right? So then it's a sense of purpose, right? One of the senses of purpose is I feel like that we get, or like having a job, having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love, or being a part of a country, right? Being a part of a fabric of a society. And when those things start to erode, some of those things, and if you don't have any other ones to back it up, then people get really rogue. Well well they get rogue especially if they've been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins you're gonna be in

A right-wing fascist dictatorship. Yeah, that's fucking pissing me off I don't understand that. That should be a crime. It should be it. Well, it's the very least it's like slanderous like That's not it's not true, you can't back that up. It's not true. Like you're saying something that we have evidence of four years of him being a president and not doing that. And what does fascist mean? Let's look up the actual definition, but there's a bunch of different versions of it.

It's usually connected to a right-wing authoritarian ideology and a power of the state over people. And it gets twisted around a lot because it's also, you could also say it's fascist to impose certain ideas on people, demand certain speech, which would make a lot of left-wing people fascist as well. Far-right authoritarian and utilitarian, ultra nationalist, political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society

and economy opposed to an art anarchism democracy pluralism egalitarianism who's the ism socialism and Marxism fascism is placed on the far right wing within the traditional left right wing spectrum who's doing all that no one is so it's like it's a bullshit term that you're throwing on a guy who has a different political philosophy than you. Put it back up again, please. It's like, there's real fascists in the world.

There's really dangerous people. That guy's not. He's got a big ego. He says ridiculous things. Who are you talking about? Trump. He doesn't behave like a guy that you think of in a traditional sense of being the president, but.

No, he just seems like just an Older guy who kind of has like likes being Donald Trump I think he loves me and Donald Trump, but I think he's got some good ideas that a lot of businessmen agree with Well, I think you need a businessman to do this. It's not a it's not a we don't live in a like this like Care-bare world anymore our our politics. it's become a dirty fucking business so I think you want a businessman in there like I don't care if somebody like somebody's attitude can the guy do business then that's who I because it's not it's not it's all business now like we've been it's been sold out it's like I don't feel like it's this I don't know

does that make any sense dude sorry dude I'm fucking having a day man don't feel like it's this I don't know does that make any sense dude sorry dude. I'm fucking having a day, man Don't apologize. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Yeah, it is business, but like you want to shrewd business, man I don't need Mary Poppins in there right right. I don't need somebody to tell me everything's okay I need just like um I need somebody to make our fucking food safe I need somebody to make our streets safe right and that's all I really need like right I feel like if I'm paying taxes Then those are the things that I should expect that my FDA and that my police department which I'm paying for are gonna be able to

Make sure that I can raise a family and raise them healthily and make it home from work to see my children I feel like I don't have any children yet, but I feel you know that's what I feel like people want. I don't care about anything else Yeah, I think most people feel the same way. They just want to be safe and happy RFK jr. Tweeted something see if you find that Well Adam McKay had a great great tweet did but our RFK treated like a message to What is it the RFK one yeah yeah yeah what's the matter bro they're seven the worst day today I got it right here if you want sorry being a downer no you're not being a downer but you keep wasn't it yeah I'm sorry man look at that FDA's war on public health is about to end this This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk,

hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, clean foods, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals, and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma. If you work for the FDA and are a part of this corrupt system I have two messages for you number one preserve your records and number two pack your bags That's that's crazy about trump winning that's what's crazy. Yeah, that's that that I like I mean you guys people like Tulsi that's you know that's that's the type of person you want congresswoman Yeah for eight years like impeccable character, and then you've got the vague who's a genius you got JD Vance

He's fucking brilliant as well. Oh, he's great. So you have a bunch of good people with him this go-around Well, yeah, it's like we gotta like get people off each other's necks man. You know that's what we got to do We got to get people to like stop attacking each other. It's so crazy Well, I felt a sense of like even after the election was over at that felt like people everything just felt kind of calm Yeah, well, it's a team thing dude. It's like your team lost It really is it's these people that are super addicted to politics They're like people who don't follow sports Yeah, never played any games then this is the the way they compete they compete for the most important thing

Like who gets to dictate the the tone of the country, right? Right. I've never expected politics to have any effect on my life, you know, even when I was a kid I didn't you know, my mom told us don't ever depend on the government for anything, you know It's like you just you have to do it. You just have to figure it out You know yeah like they used to have some rich dude or whatever like like our street it would like cut between like the Highway and like this other road where people would go and so they had a guy who was like a veterinarian or whatever and He would go down our street. He would stop and throw out like

or whatever, and he would go down our street, he would stop and throw out like, these like, he was a veterinarian, and he would throw out like animal carcasses into our ditch and shit, right? So we- Jesus Christ, like dead cats and shit? Yeah, dead animals, you know, different animals, nothing really, I would say medium size, you know,

probably 32 waist and lower, right? He would throw those bitches out into the fucking, I guess just to get rid of them. And our neighborhood was like the poor neighborhoods. I was like, who gives a fuck about these people, right? What an asshole. Totally, but we call- Just throw them on the streets?

Throw them in the ditch. But we call the police and they'd be like, yeah, we'll help. And they would never come, you know? And my mom was like, don't ever, I remember telling her, do not ever expect the government to fucking help you do Anything you have to do shit yourself

You know also cops don't want to take dead animals and fucking pick it up and put in a bag Like that's not what they signed up for yeah I don't know and then they're not busy to gate the let's see what kind of animal is this Yeah, it was this veterinarian, and he would just throw those bitches and sometimes we it would be you know after they died or whatever like after they like You know after the bones got blanced or whatever by the Sun we would fucking throw you know do like games or shit But nothing what you know throw each other you fucking do you guys are throwing bones at each other fuck is six rib cages there

Yeah, you're fucking Bro, welcome to Haiti, dude It was why you don't get sick a lot got immunized by the all the bacteria and finding dead animal Yeah, we yeah, we had a good time, but nothing like that snake I had in that ditch bring that thing back up there. How many fucking kids that get helicopter parented get allergic to more shit Because they don't get exposed to things they're not crawling around Playing in dirt and shit all that stuff's probably got to be good for your body Right when you're little kids, especially playing in dirt playing outside. Oh, yeah, if you're just sheltered or whatever Yeah, just for your biome. It's got to be good for you

Yeah, I'm trying to think of what was in our biome or whatever You know I gotta ask my mom I guess Yeah, that snake was crazy. That's the crazy thing to me man is seeing a snake eat something like that Do you know how many snakes there are in the Everglades? There's more pythons more pythons in the Everglades. I would guess 150. Oh, no, that's even lower bet. I would bet 200,000 500 That's just a rough estimation that could be off by a factor of who fucking knows they don't really know It's dense dense dense dense jungle. Yeah, and the guy you're asking is probably like here probably five Dude in here python cowboy. He goes and hunts for him

He's got a dog and the dog will find the nests He's pulling these giant ass pythons out of nests that dogs been sexually assaulted. I bet I'll say that dude That dog's a psychopath. Yeah, going after something that could easily swallow it Yeah, that's a 77 pound deer. You see that. Yeah, I think is a damn sixth grader dude. They'd alligators That's great. This is the crazy thing because of the introduction of pythons into the Everglades 90% of all the mammals are missing There's no mammals anymore. Oh, they ate them all they ate them all This is 90% are missing. How long does it how long does it take a snake to eat something that big?

This is 90% are missed. How long does it how long does it take a snake to eat something that big? Well, the thing is the number of snakes like it's the perfect environment for those animals Like it's like they just dropped off in paradise. Nothing needs them. There's no crocodiles snakes. Yeah, they're living Yeah, so some alligators must eat some of them. But how long does it take a snake to eat something? Look at this 2012 study found that populations of raccoon had declined 99.3%, apostles 98.9%, and bobcats 87.5% since 1997. Marsh rabbits, cottontail rabbits, and foxes

effectively disappeared over that time. Got it! So they've essentially eradicated all the rabbits and the foxes. But how long does it, I mean, it's unbelievable. But how long, that's Satan working as well. And how long does it take? How long does it take a snake to digest?

Like how long does it take once you get that deer? That's a good question. I wonder. I know that- Like is it days or is it like weeks? Let's guess. Okay. A full deer. One week. I say one week oh that's pretty

good guess I was like antlers and shit and yeah yeah wish I guess that do you think swallow the antlers do they go to for the bucks and swallow antlers well I been imagine swallowing you feel like such an asshole when the antler was going down you'd be like oh my god I can't believe I swallowed the antler that's gonna take forever to break down. You're just gonna be rolling around with antlers inside your chest forever. Oh, every way you go, ow, ow,

just to revenge you that deer. No comfortable way to sleep. And what do they do with the antlers, man? Well, they must die, I'm sure they just get to that point and the rest of the body is deceased. Well, the antler is just bone But it's so pokey like look at it. I would bet three weeks Nature gives them

weapons for a few months This is what what happens with a deer like and when they stop breeding these fall off every year So these you find them on the ground They call me heads you can only defend yourself while you're breeding Exactly, and it's offensive as much as it's defensive they've run at each other and clash you see him fighting it happens all the time It's pretty fucking cool. They go after each other and just fuck each other up and yeah, they'll see him sometimes hooked together Yeah, I mean nature's danger dangerous. Nature is really, really unbelievable. That's the number one person in the world.

I saw a horrible video of these two deer that got locked together. So they're clashing antlers, they got locked together. And one of them got eaten by a coyote. So one was still alive, connected to this body, couldn't get away while the other one got torn apart by a coyote. And it was just dumb luck that the coyotes picked him

versus that, because neither one of them can get away. The coyotes recognized that they were locked into each other and just picked one and went after him, just gutted him. That's like when you're in a threesome but nobody wants to touch you, you know? He's trying to eat one with antlers and got got fucked up. Oh God, oh it cut his own body open bales on it. Oh it split his body wide open. Oh my god Look at his mouth. He's got the antler stuck through his fucking jaw. I

Would hate some I hate it when people always slid off of it Wow I hate it when people take a long time to eat you know went right through them But don't you hate that though Like when you're eating and somebody um You're done eating and they're still eating that doesn't bother me at all. That bothers you. Yeah Why it doesn't bother me even a little bit really? No, yeah, like you're at a restaurant and they're done, right? They're done. You have to fucking you're done and they're still just still eating. Yeah We'll just talk to them yeah, but then you cut you feel like you have to pretend like you're still like scraping your bowl Or whatever you know No, you're thinking too much. I think it's crazy to sit there watch somebody eat. That's for you

Why? Dude, they're eating yeah, but you were eating with them too. Yeah, but you're done. So what now? You're just gonna fucking look. I'm just gonna look at them. Like how is it? Tell me about each bite. No Yeah, I just I feel like if somebody's already if I don't like I don't like when people eat real slow Okay, makes me nervous. Well, you should just like be real clear about that before you go out with someone like let's eat Okay, like we can eat together, but I got this thing like when I'm done you're done Imagine if you like super reasonable boyfriend in every other way, but you just had this rule when I'm done eating no one needs And she's like well. This is bullshit like I know it sounds crazy. I can't kick it. It's I have a tick

And she's like well this is bullshit like I know it sounds crazy. I can't kick it. It's I have a tick Have a psychological problem. I can't just sit there so when I'm done eating you have to be done And I don't eat fast. I don't eat fast, but I'm warning you when that fucking bell rings Bonaparte times up dude that would be the weirdest thing that you're obsessed with. You have to end at the exact same time. Last bite. That kind of shit, yeah, that would make me, yeah, that kind of stuff, little things kind of make me uncomfortable, dude. But that, oh, what else is that thing in the mouth? Pythons.

Yeah, pythons, whales or whatever, big animals. Dude, it's crazy how they have all those Airbnbs now where it's like, you can stay in a hollowed out whale carcass out here on the plot. You know, it's like, Airbnbs, bring up some Airbnbs, please, sir. They've gotten weird. It's like, welcome to this, it's like, oh,

welcome to this two-story whale carcass down here at Punta Verde Mexico they make up. It's like Punta, every month there's a new punta in Mexico like what the fuck are we doing? You renamed a city every time It's like welcome to fucking punta pescado, Mexico. You want to stay in this two-bedroom? You can stay in that? It's a potato. Itbedroom The giant potato what is that? What did they call it? Okay, ten weirdest Airbnb listings let you sleep in a shoe and elephant and a flying saucer. Yeah, let's go to the flying saucer Oh shit

That's yours did bro if I wasn't married out of the stupidest house My house would be one of two things I'd either have it built into the side of a hill like the Hobbit. Oh That we kind of dope or I would go full spaceship. Yeah Yeah, a house where a 16 year old boy would see it be like, dude Yeah, just appear to the child and you like kid rocks vibe Dude. Yeah. Yeah, just appear to the child in you. Like Kid Rock's vibe. Totally. Kid Rock's vibe. Kid Rock's White House, I maintain, is the coolest celebrity house I've ever been to. It's one of one, man. It's not just one of one. He's the only one that would even think about doing that. It's like him and maybe John Daly would build a fucking White House.

John Daly's unbelievable, dude. Every time I go somewhere, every time he's there, an ambulance takes him home. It's fucking unbelievable dude. Every time I'm there, it's almost like he hits a hole in heaven dude. I'm like this motherfucker is headed. One time the ambulance came, they came in to look for him, he went out and sat in the ambulance to ride home with him bro. And they're in the place and they're like, where is he? We're like he there's something everybody regulation about the overweight dude who's really good at a game Dude, do you see that golfer girl though? The girl that smokes the female John Daly, dude? No Yeah, puffer. Oh, yeah. She's smoking cigarettes. Yeah She's hot. Yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah She's hot yeah, whoa

Welcome to love welcome to 1984. It's coming back. Let's do it Let's go cuz I got to get a damn wife Joe Rogan. That's your move get yourself a golfer wife someone Oh look at that smoking cigarettes looking hot. Yeah, let me see. Whoo, baby Oh and smoking in front of everybody too. Yeah, she just rips darts on the yeah, she from England Yeah, ah there you go puffer McGavin over there. They just fucking smoked. They smoke a lot more over there Everybody's got a goddamn cigarette. Oh, yeah I'll smoke that lady. I bet you will sorry that's insane. That's how John Daly is like also ma'am. She could be married I have no idea right don't be rude. Yes. Sorry with you, bro

I don't know. I'm just fucking Everything's high-strung today. There was a professional pool player. I'm one toward all kid delicious Mm-hmm, and everybody loved him because he was this big fat dude who played really good But it was the big fat guy thing that people liked right? Oh, you don't have to be a fucking athlete to be any good to be a guy eating salads You're fucking getting up in the morning doing yoga before you come to the pool hall. No, this guy is out there eating hot dogs. That was Kid Delicious. Yeah.

There's a great book about him. John Wertheim, I think his name, Running the Table. Yeah. Yeah, people love short term fats, man. There's something about it. If you know there's a bigger guy and you know, you think he's not gonna live long There's an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediately, but John Daly back in the day wasn't fat Oh athlete this is just a lifetime of like living hard. Oh, he's a fucking right there. He's fucking stout, dude

Oh, he looks you know Johnny is an exceptional guy great storyteller. He's a fucking he's the Santa Claus of every 7-eleven I've ever been to look at that hair and but he's a guy that's been playing Golf for like how many fucking years you know I don't know you know that's the feel you must have of that ball playing Professional golf for all those years. Yeah, he'll hit a 68 and an ICU dude this guy's one of a con I feel like you know nobody could do it like him. He's exceptional all he drinks his diet coke. Yeah, sure doesn't like water He likes things. I'm sure but he doesn't drink water now. He's great drinkin alcohol, too Yeah, don't you want to stay at this air? Don't you want to stay in this hollowed out moose carcass out here in band, Oregon? It's it's uh, don't you want to stay in our treehouse?

Where do I shit Don't people rent out like tents and shit. Yeah, it's yeah. It's like they'll they'll supply you the tent and everything It's just like regular shit. You're like, yeah, we's like they'll they'll supply you the tent and everything like it's just like regular shit You're like yeah, we'll go stay there. You know If you don't want to set up a tent like I like camping but I'm too lazy to set up a tent I'll just show up at your house And you look sad in front of your wife too you're like and you're tying it down think think think Think think think and then you realize and you're sleeping in a little cloth house. Yeah out in the woods

Hey, buddy Yeah, there's an Airbnb tent. That's in the tights dude. That's probably in Austin. You can fuck in this tent, bro. Fuck. Yeah You ever did a lot of fucking outdoors or what was your life like fuck? It's the way to go. I ain't scared of mosquitoes I'm an outdoor fucker whenever possible. Did you ever do any when you were young? Yeah, he stuck away in the woods me and this one girl. We were fooling around the woods We never got to the actual sex part. We got close. We got eight alive by mosquitoes We try to get naked outside and so like literally our whole body so it's covered in mosquito bites. It was horrific We all near a stream or was it more landlocked area near It was near a river. Yeah, it was near the Charles River.

My guy. Yeah. Kids would just go into the woods. You know, we'd always find kids drinking in the woods. Yeah. You know, like we lived in an area, I lived in Newton, Massachusetts when I was in high school. And Newton is a great town, like a really cool area.

And where I lived, it was called Upper Falls. There was all these like woods and trees and shit. and the river was right across the street from my house and It was like it was always these wild kids like playing Billy Squire on a boom box and smoking cigarettes It was like the outsiders. It was really interesting and then one kid would get a car like oh shit Bobby's got a car. Oh, it was the best dude Bobby's driving us around Rockford five skates in the trunk just coming down the street dude to this day one of my favorite cars I have a 1970 Chevelle and I got it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh bring it up I would like to see when I was but when I was a kid

Yeah, before I had a car my friend picked me up in his buddy's car I didn't know the other dude. I met him like from school or something like that, but I didn't know him and He picked me up in this 1970 Chevelle it was black with white stripes and it was perfect and I remember I saw it I was like, how does he own this? How can you own this? Yeah, that's how I felt I go sit in the back seat of the car was like this is you own this. That's how I felt. I was sitting in the back seat of the car. I was like, this car is so crazy that you could own this car. And I remember he ran out of gas, but coasted right into the gas station and stopped the car in front. It was like the coolest thing

I'd ever seen in my life. The guy owned that car somehow as a 16 year old boy. I was looking at this car going, how, how did this car going how how did you do this? How did you do this? No, that's That's a different car Jamie. That's my 1970 Barracuda That's a beautiful 70 Chevelle's on anywhere, but it's just a good Google black 70 Chevelle SS white stripes It's just a good Google black 70 Chevelle SS white stripes D. There's nothing there's nothing like that's it

There's nothing like running out of gas and coast into the fucking pump mine looks almost exactly like that But that's exactly like this kids looked when he picked me up, and I got a ride in his car I was like this that's a 69. That's another amazing car, but that one up the upper one in the middle That's why that's my actual car. That's my car. But that one, the upper one in the middle, that's my actual car. That's my car. Ooh, wow. Yeah. Dude, I love that thing. That's my favorite, I think, out of all of them.

I love it so much. It just, because it brings me back to that moment when I was a 16-year-old kid, and this guy had this car. I was like, how do you have this car? How is this even possible that you have this car? Yeah. Oh, that was crazy. Dude, if an older kid picked you up when you were a kid this car how is this even possible that you have this car yeah oh that was great dude if a cra- if

an older if an older kid picked you up when you were a kid and he had a car that was like yeah getting into like somebody who had a car's car when you couldn't even have a car was the craziest feeling ever you couldn't believe it yeah you were like the things that we completely take for granted like your buddy picks you up and give you a ride like hey what's up what's up how's it going on it's normal for you now. Like, oh, I'm just sitting in the back seat of my friend's car. But back then it was like, whoa, whoa.

How do, what do you, yeah, hey, play something cool on the radio. Everything meant something. I remember my friend Mike was taking flying lessons when I was in high school. And I went up in an airplane with him when I was 14. We were both 14. And he was taking flight lessons when I was,

meh, meh, meh, meh, meh. I was like, what the fuck? I'm letting this 14 year old kid fly me around with him in a plane and an instructor. Yeah, but back then, like you would just, you would just do shit. You were so thrilled just to get out of your fucking house. You'd hop in your buddy's backseat like where we going?

Yeah, I don't know man. We're gonna go to Bobby's house. All right, you're listening songs on the radio You couldn't believe you were in a car Yeah And it mattered like if your hand was out the window the window was down if the window was up how you were Operating if the seatbelt was on if your arms were over this yes You want to look cool one hand in the steering wheel one hand out the window and you thought everybody you drove past looked at you sup kids yeah yeah what's up kid just looking for some pussy I remember this one dude when I was in high school there's this one dude

who was like he I think he was a couple of years older than us and he graduated but he was dating a girl that still went to the High school and he had an I rock Z Marrow with the teatops or no I have the teatops and this dude pulled in front of high school and everybody like couldn't believe it He was like the coolest guy alive. Look at him in his I rock Z picking up the girl that none of us can date We guy alive look at him in his iRog Z picking up the girl that none of us can date. We salute you! Yeah. God I fucking remember that shit dude. I remember my brother one time fucking- I got more of the story. Sorry go on. That dude who had that iRog ran over a guy accidentally and dragged them through the city for miles just tried to like

get the body out from under his car a couple times but couldn't do it but just kept driving so driving around this iRog Z with a person stuck under the car driving for miles I hate that kind of Have you ever had like a bag stuck under your car or whatever? Yes, that's different. I'm joking. I feel like if you drive over someone, maybe pull over. Hey, maybe pull over. But I don't know, pull it over. What do you do at that point? There's like guys that you hear about from high school. It's like you feel like you're in a Stephen King book, like Stand By Me or something like that, you know? Oh, totally. Everything felt like kind of had a Stephen King vibes back then,

you know? Well, just people just disappeared back then and there was no phones and there was no internet and you barely remembered people if you didn't see him for a month. Like you didn't even have a picture. I have like five pictures of my friends from high school, you know? And mostly cause my friend Jimmy sends them to me. But it's like you don't remember. You don't remember what anybody looked like. You don't remember anything.

But now, too much. Now you know everything. But back then, it's like you would hear about this, like one of the guys you went to high school with, you got in trouble, and like, oh no, now he's in jail. Whoa. Like Todd's in jail. Yeah, whoa. I remember I met this one dude who just got out of jail. whoa. He's in jail. Todd's in jail. Yeah, whoa.

I remember I met this one dude who just got out of jail. Yeah. He was friends with my friend. The first guy I ever met that was in jail, he had just the weirdest vibe. I had a buddy of mine who actually, it was a training partner of mine, who was one guy, he was like this one way,

and then he went to jail on a drug charge, and he came out like three years later, and he was a totally different person. Oh, wow. He was super jacked. I don't know if he was doing steroids or what, but he was like really jacked and fucking aggressive and super dangerous. And he was telling me these stories about jail

and about all the fights that he had gotten into in jail, and he got almost like a fight to the death with a mob stick in this guy He was telling me these horrific fights and it had just changed him And I mean I'd never experienced something like that before where I knew a guy before he went to prison And then I knew him after prison and he was just a completely different person and fucking very dangerous to spar with Like very dangerous like we try to kill you we would have We would have wars like they weren't really sparring matches. There were fights people were yeah

Some people got dangerous dude, especially if they got on the drugs or got on the gear, you know This guy this guy I think was both I think he was on he was on gear and I think he was doing coke because I know he was selling he was selling coke I know he's getting coke for Because I know he was selling coke. I know he was getting coke for girls and stuff like that. He wound up dying. But here's where it gets really crazy. While I knew this guy, like while he was training

at the same gym as me, he got arrested and questioned in this murder where this guy who was an informant, I think he was an informant They they found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine to keep him alive while they were breaking his bones So from him blacking out from the pain They were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer I think then they I think they cut his hands in his head off too. And, uh, he got, he got implicated or at least questioned about that.

I was like, yo, imagine even being the other room while that's going on. Yeah. You know, even trying to watch a show or what I like are just like here You're like keep it down Can't you guys insulate your torture house It's fucking up the rest of the neighborhood. Yeah, I mean what the fuck dude I would never be able to torture somebody I don't think I would be able I'm trying to think of the things I could do to somebody You might be able to do if someone did something to your loved ones.

I think you'd be surprised what a mother would do if she caught some person doing something to one of her children. And a father too, huh? Oh yeah, but I mean even mothers who you wouldn't think of as being violent. And do you think it's a choice they make or you think it's something that's just inside of them? It's inside of you and there's a choice too but it's inside of you. We have instincts to protect our kids,

you know, and you could get crazy violent. Yeah. And normal, regular people can get crazy violent to protect their children. And it also seemed like there's a lot of cases now where people are deceasing their own children. Killing their own children? Yeah.

There's always been that, man. There's always been evil people. But it's just crazy, you know? Sometimes evil people have children. Yeah, man. There's people that poison their kids. There's always been evil people. But it's just crazy, you know? Sometimes evil people have children. Yeah, man. There's people that poison their kids. There's evil people out there. In every stretch of the world, you're going to get a certain percentage of our population

that just doesn't come out right. And that's normal. It's like everything. There's always a percentage that's just not right, yeah? Well, whatever the struggle that the human race is involved in is if you wanted to break it down, and just philosophically, it's essentially a struggle between good and evil, always. It's always a struggle between good and evil.

Yeah. And you're always going to have a certain amount of evil that you have to overcome. And I think that amount of evil that you overcome should be small, but I think it enforces this idea to do good, and that good conquers evil if everybody works together cooperatively. But you need something. If you don't have resistance, it feels like people, the way we're designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things and improve upon society, improve upon our own lives. We're always like trying for progress, right? I think that's all sort of tied in to competition and competition needs a foe. You need an antagonist

and a protagonist. You need resistance. And I think the unfortunate thing is that there is evil in the world. The fortunate thing is that evil makes you appreciate love and it motivates people to stop evil and it motivates people to limit evil. You know, like the calls for law and order in this country, like during the riots, remember when everybody was like, we need law and order. We need law and order. You can't have just people breaking into things and stealing everything in law and order.

Like that kind of stuff. It's like that's good versus evil. It's evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don't know who died unjustly. That's good versus evil. It's evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don't know who died unjustly. That's crazy. You're just using this as an opportunity. They say fuck everyone.

You can't have people just running around saying fuck everyone and lighting things on fire. You can't have that. You just, you can't have that. So like when you encounter these different things, it makes you appreciate not having those things so it motivates you. One of the things that got people excited about Trump being in office is that he wanted

to get away from all this defund the police shit. He wanted to get the country back to law and order. He wants us to increase manufacturing, increase everything. All the things that make people feel good about the future. All the... Will give you purpose. Yeah. And they didn't feel that way about the message

that they were hearing from the other side. They felt like it was gonna be more of the same shit. And more of the same shit doesn't get anything done. We still keep getting involved in these wars that we don't wanna be involved in. Yeah, shut it down. Shut down everything it doesn't have to do with us, I feel like, for a while. It's like, there's just a lot of stuff that we haven't even be involved in. Yeah, shut it down. Shut down everything it doesn't have to do with us, I feel like for a while.

It's like, there's just a lot of stuff that we haven't even healed from in this country. Yeah. That's the biggest thing. I think there's a lot of things that we haven't healed from that we should try to address as a group, and that could be like everything from Native American times, slavery times, opioid epidemic. There's tons of things I feel like that it's's like and I don't know how you do that

I mean, I know time has a lot to do with it, but it's like I just don't know if Sending our resources elsewhere is the most important thing right now when it's like we could Well try at least Trump thinks he can fix these overseas conflicts I don't know if he can, but the point is like something has to be done. We can't just keep throwing money at war and ignoring ourselves. That seems crazy. And if you're saying we're not ignoring ourselves, well, we're not spending the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have. Yeah, it's like even if you look at like, you know, recently I learned, you know recently I learned sorry recently I learned that like the number one cause of medical debt is insurance

is Medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America, right? Is it really? Yeah, that's crazy It's crazy that there's a laundering system that goes on. It's a money laundering. Well Hospitals and insurance companies. Yeah, there's definitely I mean if you talk to Brigham Bueller from waste well He'll explain to you. Yeah, I just went there the other day. He's the man. I went to Cuyah and I went there, dude I've been trying to get well while I'm here. Try to get get well. It's been tough. Oh, but we're just talking about Medical debt yeah, he'll explain it real well

It's like it's a you know It's kind of a fucked up system but it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people go bankrupt because You're out of work because you got a medical issue Then you have medical bills if you don't have insurance you're really fucked you don't have insurance like woo But it's just a scam like the prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries just things that it's like our Government doesn't want to make better deals because there's this middleman That's making a lot of money off of it. You know there's that I don't know

There's definitely a lot of influence with a lot of money I don't know also companies that we need you know Pfizer makes good stuff makes I mean these companies make really beneficial drugs too Yeah, but it's just the problem with all these fucking people is they just want to make more money constantly and if they can get you taking more pills than you need they will. That's how they sell. They want to sell pills. They can come up with a reason. Are you anxious? I am a little. Hey, here you go. And next thing you know, you're dependent. Yeah, it's like you have two legs. You ever been on a bicycle? Like

the things are just crazy. You know, it'sch Yeah, you ever had oatmeal raisin cookies. You're like fucking this is me. I think we can't let them advertise That's true gonna buy the drugs with the advertising thing is crazy because it affects the media, too Yeah, it affects what people are allowed to investigate it affects what the The news is because the news is not gonna give you everything They're not they're gonna conveniently ignore things that would affect their partnerships. Yeah. If you have a... Yeah, it's all advertising.

Yeah. What did we say it was again? The amount of billions of dollars they spend every year on advertising? Pharmaceutical drug companies? Did you... were you... were you nervous about endorsing Trump or no? I usually try to stay out of it. But I felt like I was getting urged to by Dana and there's quite a few people. I didn't think it makes a difference.

I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and that some radical change need to take place. In my opinion, I just I I'm not buying, like, you know, when we were talking about before with the way the country feels, like the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky, because regardless of what you thought about his policies,

what he did in place, it was real clear something was wrong with him. And they were lying to us. Oh yeah. So that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy, right? Even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction, the economy is moving in the right general direction, even if you agree to those things, when you have a guy that's at the front that's

obviously in some way compromised, there's something going on, something going on that they don't want to admit. Everybody knows it and he drifts off and he says things don't make sense and something's wrong so everybody feels uncomfortable even if everything's going well, right? Because for good or for bad, that person that's in that office kind of sets a tone for the country. And the tone for the last four years was confusion. So regardless of their policies, the tone that's being established whenever he talks or whenever she does interviews or she talks is a confusing talk.

There's word salad and then there's like these moments where it seems like she doesn't know how to wrap up a sentence which can just be nerves it could just be nerves talking for the large groups of people doesn't mean she's not brilliant it doesn't it really doesn't some people she was new and kind of thrown into it but some people clam up when they have to do those things but then there's the argument that's the job though you have to be able to do that because you're gonna have to be able to talk to Putin and you know presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world you got to be able to do that because you're gonna have to be able to talk to Putin and you know presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world you got to be able to handle pressure so that's kind of part of it

too kind of part of it too is you got to be able to handle pressure but the thing that people worry about Trump is that he's so antagonistic you know and that then that's the tone of the country and the tone of the country is not like the tone of the Obama administration I always tone of the country is not like, the tone of the Obama administration, I always felt was the best because he was measured, never attacked anybody, he was very articulate and smooth. Yeah, he was smooth. There was not a lot of ums and ahs.

Some people, Trump throws too many extra words in, but it's just his flavor. His flavor is he rambles, he goes all over the place, like I joke, look at this hair, what is wrong with my hair he makes fun he's like doing stand-up up there Obama was the smoothest and Clinton Clinton was pretty fucking smooth too let's see maybe Clinton and Obama those are the goats so like when you get a person for good or for bad that's smooth and talks like a professional like an actual president it makes everybody like he's got this this guy's a real professional president like look at him. Yeah with Trump. You're like. I hate Taylor Swift like no

Don't say that yeah, you know the wrong button today, buddy He tweeted out that this is that lady that he allegedly slept with was uh you call her horse face. Why is the president? was uh, you call her horse face. Why was the president? It's so crazy to do! It's fucking unreal. But for a lot of like super sensitive people and progressive people, that's why they want to believe that he's Hitler. They want to believe, they look at these things and then they don't look at it as like a flavor in the soup like Look! It's all pepper! No, it's not all pepper. Like pepper's a part of it. Yeah, he probably shouldn't tweet I hate Taylor Swift, but whatever yeah

What's important is like what is he gonna do in terms of fix all these problems that everybody agrees are real problems? Yeah, and can he do it and he can keep all these people in his staff RFK jr. I don't know I don't know if you do it but if you can at least we have hope if RFK really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kind of clean up Some of the corruptions item it'd be exciting It'd be good for people if we stop putting ingredients and foods that are illegal in Canada because they're dangerous How about we stop doing that here? Yeah seems like a logical thing. It's not like Froot Loops in Canada sell that less

Yeah, it's probably equal sales and people would get unaddicted quick. You're really just getting people addicted to things You know even understand how about we prosecute that fucking Sackler family that fucking killed hundreds of thousands of people in our country How about that? How about that? Yeah, how about that? Well you saw the whole thing where they were trying to buy immunity, huh? They were trying to buy immunity They were gonna have like a settlement where they give X amount of billions of dollars But then they were immune to prosecution, but ain't that what they did though But I think what happened was they put a pause on that after the Netflix documentary came out Wow and that was we talked about it once but I

don't know where it's at now but that family they made billions of dollars by getting people hooked on opium on fucking this family is mass murderers yeah if they anybody with the last name they should I don't give I kick that gene pool out of our fucking country Those people are fucking murderers, dude I think a lot of people still haven't gotten over that shit and do you know the same family that was involved in Valium? Yeah, I do know that mother's little helper. That was Valium. That's was ladies in the fucking Taking valiant lizards get those motherfuckers out of here

and that's one thing that was one of the reasons why I was like supportive of Vance. Like, you know, like, um, I just believe he has a soft spot for that type of thing, and I hope that it'll get, I don't know if he can do anything, because lobbies are so big now. Wasn't someone in his family an addict? Yeah, his mother suffered from addiction, you know? Right, right. But, um, he's just seen it, you know? Make sure that the Sacra family was involved in the Valium thing. I don't want to have to edit that out.

As if I called them a piece of shit about one thing, but hey, we weren't a piece of shit about that other thing. I think they were though. I just, that's like even thinking about it, bro, it makes me so angry, you know? Because you don't know the- The Sackler family member, yeah, Arthur Sackler, member of the Sackler family was a major figure in the promotion of Valium through direct marketing to physicians in the 1960s. Yeah, that is it.

So same family. Evil. Evil. It's evil. It's literally evil. Just destroying lives. It's the devil. It's the devil.

It's a drug dealer. It's one of the worst drug dealers because you're sneaking around with doctors. You're sneaking around under this guise of authority. Well, one of the problems is that, say if you work for a politician in D.C., they can only pay you so much money by law to work with them and help put their bills together. So at a certain point, the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who have been writing bills for the congressmen and for the senators. certain point the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who've been writing bills for the congressmen and for the senators. So they then go to work as lobbyists. That's one of the biggest problems. Right. So a lot of it is that we have a cap on certain salaries,

right? And that we also have a law that we also don't have a law that stops people once you work for one side that you can't work for the other. Right. Right. That's the thing with the FDA and pharmaceutical drug companies. Right Right, and I'm not saying that those, I don't know the answer. I'm just saying that that's one of the things, that's one of the reasons why that happened. It's a conflict of interest. Right. For sure.

And it's just nobody regulated it. They allowed it to happen. Yeah. It should be, if you were working for the FDA, should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company where you then make incredible amounts of money. That seems like a conflict of interest.

You would be willing to do, if you had conversations with these people and they'd say, listen, you nice to us in a couple of years, golden parachute, you want a yacht? I think you need a yacht. You know, you're a millionaire. Which is bizarre that you can do that. It's just as bizarre as the whole insider trading in Congress You know that a bill is gonna get passed You know this bill is gonna affect a stock you gamble high on that stock the bill gets passed and you make a lot of money

that Seems illegal that seems illegal. Yes cheatin that seems crazy But there's a lot of those things, man. And this system was set up by people and people are flawed. Right. That's a good point. Yeah. It's like nothing. No one's going to do anything perfectly. I don't know. Well, it's not just that accountability and transparency in terms of like what's actually going on is way different now because our access to information is way different now. Like anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that and you find out

things about the Pentagon and that about this like there's just it's you don't have to look in the New York Times anymore. Right. You know you don't have to wait for the news to come on at five. Now you get it whenever you want it and that's sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with. So for the longest time Even though there's rules and the Constitution set up in the Bill of Rights There's been people that have had a lot of power For a long time without a bunch of people looking at them and now more people are looking at them than ever before

And then you get this guy like Trump comes in like FBI the crooked You go to war with the CIA he's like that drunk, whoa! Bro, what are you doing? You're going to war with the CIA? He's like that drunk uncle, dude. Bro, what about Barron Trump, dude? There's no credit. Whatever you think about this election, the whole thing to me is fascinating.

First of all, because Dana White made so much stuff happen. Oh yeah. Dana White made the Trump thing happen, for sure. He was trying to get me to have Trump on in like 2017. Bro, you would hear rumors of that in the distance. Bro, he would call me up, he'd call me up, Joe, listen, the president wants to do your podcast.

I go, you mean Trump? Yeah. He tried to change the name of it. What are you doing, man? Why are you trying to get me in trouble? You know, and back then I was like, I don't want to be a part of this is too many people are angry too many people pissed off I was like I don't need to and I didn't pay attention to it enough I

didn't pay attention to the way they were misrepresenting things that he had said enough yeah I didn't really I my wake-up call was when they went after me when CNN went after me I was like like, yeah This is crazy. I'm taking veterinary drugs bitch. Yeah, what the fuck are you talking about? This is the dumb also Why are you upset that I got better quick? Like what is this about like that I took veterinary drugs and got better quick and why in the article? Hey, well when you herald it say hey, this could be a possibility, you know, it's like not only that It's just the there's no way they didn't know that it was for human those people are it's all a sick but when I saw

that and that was so minor in comparison the way they've come out to Trump because they come out to Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shit and I don't think he's a perfect person I know he's fun and I think he's a very competitive guy which is why he likes playing golf so much and why he wouldn't quit until he became the president again. And he pulled it off. And the best thing that I've heard from people on the left

is it's not the result that we wanted, but we hope the country can come together. And I think we should all have that mentality. This idea that we're all separate, we're on Team USA, and I think we should just all publicly state, nobody gives a fuck where you're from, what you do. You're on Team ESA, we're all in this shit together. That's it.

That's it, let's forget about all this identity politics nonsense and all. But is that gonna happen, you think? At least we can put that thought out there instead of everyone's racist, everyone's a Nazi. That ain't helping nobody. You're just pushing people further and further away. The people that used to identify as left,

they've been forced to these sort of center-right positions just to maintain normalcy. When you're giving puberty blockers to kids and you're opening up gender-affirming care clinics and treating kids, like, shut the fuck up. You're not on the right side. You think you're on the right side because you think you're being compassionate. What you're doing is crazy to most people and we don't want it. And we think you might be like in a cult.

Like it's a giant cult of leftists that think crazy things and they're allowing all sorts of bizarre things to happen in society like the no cash bail thing. Like things you think are good, you know, structural racism is why there's so many people in prison, right? Yeah, but you just let people out who shoot people. You can't just have people robbing people and right back out on the street. You can't have that. You can't have that. You'll have a full deterioration of society and no one will thrive, and you'll be under chaos.

You'll be like living in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in just a decade. You can't just keep this trend going. You're gonna fall apart. And it's these idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen, these people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done, but it can be done. There's a version of all of these different

communist philosophies that you can imply. There's socialism that could work, right? There's a version of it that can work and make it more equitable for everybody. But the end of that is always one thing. It's totalitarian control over what you say and do. Because as soon as you wanna redistribute funds, as soon as you wanna tell people

they can't have things anymore, then you're gonna have to take it from them. Yeah, well I think like to me everything kind of started to feel like this privatized communism, right? Like yeah, once the post office didn't work. I was like the government's fuck, dude I was like these bastards can't even get a package to fucking Toledo in two days, dude You know like but it probably really did though is that there's like UPS now, right? But it but you go in there, dude, it's like a West and they're serving liquor at the counter. Like it's definitely, yeah, it's gotten,

it's gone downhill. They have liquor? I mean, they don't, but they, you could probably score a gram up there at the counter. Like it's gone, you know, the doors, there's no hinges on, it's gotten, dude, it's the Wild West over there. Which post office you going to, bro? Every post office, bro.

All of them are bad? Bro, it's, 75% of the post offices are, it's gotten, but I'll just use that as an example of like, a government, it just like started to fall apart, right? The last time I saw a post office was the last election. That was the last time I went to a post office. Well, yeah. Last election when I mailed in my California ballot.

Yeah. And how many? I emailed 20 million of them, apparently. How many? And at that time, was there a saloon happening there? What is that, like, at least cause for concern, that leap in numbers? Yeah.

What is it now, Jamie? Do we know what the official numbers are now? The California one hasn't really, I don't know why it hasn't updated more. California's, they're digging in their heels. What is it now Jamie do we know what the official numbers are now? California's they're digging in their heels. They don't want to make the election real I don't think either one of these parties is what the people say like Democrat They're not the same parties. It was 15 years ago. Most people are waking up to that That's why if you look at the map of California new going on look at the map of California red and blue from 2016 and then look at it from or rather 2020 and then 2024 There's a giant difference a job

I mean a giant difference a giant difference in the amount of counties that went red Yeah, it's just the big population centers are always gonna be blue They're in the trance if you're in San Francisco and if you're in Los Angeles You're in the trance like 70% of those people are in the trance. There's this leftist trance. But they also believe things that mean something to them. So they're not like, because like. Right, but socially they're connected to all these ideas. You know, and socially they're all like hyper-liberal.

They're socially locked into like this mindset. It doesn't allow questioning narratives. It doesn't allow questioning these ideas. So like the idea of questioning science was like, there's no way, we're a science denier? I could be a science denier. You couldn't even say, hey, are you sure that these companies who have been lying

their entire careers, they've been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for lying. We know they lie. You sure they're telling you the truth about this drug when they haven't Injected giant swaths of the population with it before but they're gonna do it now Yeah, and they promise it's gonna work. Yeah, and then they're lying about the promises They're lying about whether it stops transmission They never even tested for that they line from whether or not it stops you from being infected

They didn't test for that either. Well the same people that own this own the publication company. It's just starting to be so obvious It's like I don't know. I'm gonna Well, the same people that own this, own the publication company, it's just starting to be so obvious. It's like, I don't know. I'm not even- But it's just money, man. It's just money. That's what it is. Right, and it's like, at what point does money

mean something over the fact of somebody's peace of mind in health and wellness? Like, that's the thing I don't understand. Because they've used their money wisely to connect it to an ideology. So this is what it is. If you're a vaccine skeptic or a vaccine denier, even if it's not even really a vaccine, I mean, you're calling it a vaccine, but that's

kind of a sneaky move because it doesn't really work like a regular vaccine does. It works completely novel. It's a completely new thing. And if you can connect that with the people that's the logical, educated people that are reasonable and convince them that you can't look at it sideways. You can never examine it, you can never question it. You never question whether or not it's even necessary. You just have to go with it. You can't question whether or not these other therapeutics

that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them, you can't, you gotta reject that because you have that emergency use authorization thing That wasn't cool, man. I never took it and guess what doing great, you know, yeah, I'm depressed suffering different depression Yeah, you had a lot of issues and back pain today But you are suffering a lot because still you're not hanging around with us come hang out here man. Come move I know this year's been busy man. I want if you lived in town

You'd be hanging out all the time. I know better you'd feel better. You need a little community I know you dude you get weird when you buy yourself too long you get weird Oh, and I spent a lot of time by myself, you know, I think you call the check to see if people still like you Did I do that? Yeah fuck That's most of my childhood did I really do that what time you did oh yeah I believe that about what are you talking about well yeah man just want to make sure we're cool no I believe that I'm like of course we're cool like what are you talking about what happened nothing just we ain't talked for a while

Wow did I really do yeah yeah yeah I believe you 100% yeah it was a weird conversation fuck that's a story of my life dude Calling people to make sure we're okay Yeah, but I know you man, so when you call me I'm like, oh, 300 just needs some love You're out there in the woods by yourself You can't be alone, man Well, I think part of me, I've always just wanted

I wanted to do my own thing But then you start to realize that there's Yeah, you're doing it by yourself. And I think that goes for like, whether it's work relationships or personal relationships too. I think it's just like, it's been the same psychology for me, you know, like, I'm the, I'll think, it's kind of, let me think about this.

I'll think to myself, I wanna be in a relationship, but I wanna do it on my own. It's fucking. I just realized that, dude. Want to be in a relationship, but I want to do it on my own I just realized that it's amazing But it's that's how there's something it just like you can marry yourself people do that. Oh, I would hate that dude I'm always just chasing myself kind of jerk me off. I Would Bear that would be a real problem I would

Bear that would be a real problem Yeah, yeah, man. There's I uh I do me I do like want to be around a group more this year's has been so it's like doing that by yourself But you are doing it by yourself right so you're doing your podcast by yourself You're doing it you stand up by itself the thing about like a club is you're doing it by yourself while everybody else is also doing it by themselves. Right, so you're around the same But you're hanging out, you're having fun, you're you're charging up your love batteries. Yeah. That's what it is. Oh the other night even just being there be able to laugh with Tony and like Ron White was right there, you got Brian Simpson, you got Kurt Metzger, everybody's just watching

and dancing and figuring things out. And then the fuckin' Tony would smile. Kurt would corner you with them conspiracies, bro. Did he ever get you? Did he get you? Oh yeah. Bro, he drowned me. He took me in a rabbit hole.

Oh, 12, he was a listener, dude. I'd have to fucking get caught. I got cornered by him. There was an underwater river, he held me under. Bro, he took me to the fucking... I go, Kurt, I don't even remember the original conspiracy theory that led us to this mind control study that I should have known about. You don't know about that? You don't know about that one? He's like, Jesus Kurt.

And he's this giant dude, so he's like looming over you like yeah conspiracy that is fucking crazy eyebrows He's like you don't know about the Vanna white conspiracy. You don't know what's behind the ease You don't know what's behind the ease Here's the thing dude until he's water. I'm a Jimmy door. He's one of a kind Jimmy doors cool I never got to know I got I got to see him for years, but I've always been like kind of admirable about him He's a great dude. He's a great dude I see him for years, but I've always been like kind of admirable about him. He's a great dude. He's a great dude But before he started working for Jimmy he didn't really have a lot of conspiracies in his head

You know it was like he got sort of exposed to all that worker for Jimmy and doing that show and he was like Oh my god This whole fucking thing is rigged and then he just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole That dude will send you a text and if you send him a text back He will send you a chain of thoughts doctrine. Yeah, like a scroll Yeah, I want to save them. I want to save them Because like that would be a cool almost like a book to publish. Oh, I text with Kurt people would love that too. I Love how passionate he is about stuff He's a smart dude. Yeah, he's very very very smart dude. It was fun

Yeah, that was just fun to see who else was there just like um Brian Simpson Asana mod A son was there was there Derek's the best dude cuz you tell any joke if it's good or not You can look at Derek and if he's laughing it's good He's just like a great green room hang. Yes, there's, he'll let you know on his face immediately. He's the, to me, he's the be all end all if something's funny. He's a great person.

He's like just a nice guy to be around. He's a funny. That's like the beautiful thing. He's so funny. He is very funny. There's a beautiful thing about the club is that there's so many nice people. Yeah.

It just, like I said, he charges up your love batteries. It's what we all need in this world. We all need a little more love a little more fun, and I'm just hoping that Trump doesn't start attacking people. That's what I'm hoping I'm hoping that he just and I know people around him want him to do that just concentrate on the positives Yeah, concentrate on the positives You got four years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people and then you will be remembered as that guy. Well, I just want people to tell us what's really going on. If they can't really do anything because lobbyists are controlling everything, I wish somebody

would just tell us that. Well, I think if anybody's gonna, it's him, especially now and especially with access to podcasts, right? So if he decides to do your podcast two months after he's in office and you have questions like that, all of a sudden Trump could probably tell you. Whatever it's not top secret, he could probably tell you. He said he's going to release the JFK files. We're going to find out a lot of things.

We're going to find a lot of things. We're going to find out whether or not he's going to really keep RFK Jr. as a part of his organization or whether he's going to get pressure from pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever. If he loses him, dude, that's not cool. It's not cool. So there's that, and then there's, is he going to release the JFK files? Because he was told that he shouldn't release them. He said some of the people were still alive, which doesn't totally make sense, because

that was 1963. So most likely, most of those people would be dead of old age. Yeah. You know, but what does it mean though when someone says that? That means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the former, of the president. So if that's true, then would it be that they're worried that it would erode all confidence in the intelligence agencies or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place and then people start saying well what happened with Martin Luther King you know because there was one that Mike Baker who's a former CIA guy was saying that one like he

investigated for a show he goes that one doesn't make any sense that guy just started getting money he was a loser his whole life all sudden he had money in no where no though The guy killed them. Oh um Who was it James Earl Reeves James Earl Ray? Maybe James Earl Ray James Earl, right so that guy Mike Baker broke it down for us I don't remember exactly but essentially what he's saying is that guy was a drifter It was a loser, you know in and out of jail that kind of a guy and then all of a sudden he has access to money He's staying in a nice place. He has a gun and like what's going on? Like he thinks that they set him up to kill Martin Luther King and that someone financed that which is most likely that makes sense

Well back then you could kind of kill somebody and it was um Easier, you know think about like the Wild West right like they if you kill somebody they drew a picture of you right Wanted I have to shave your mustache You could become Where'd he go glasses You could literally Go across the fucking behind a boulder shave come back to the town get a job as a sheriff and look for yourself 20 years

Well imagine how gross it must have been to come to some like fucking weird a brothel back then weird brothel town Oh saloon, and you just smell like shit You've been riding on the back of a horse for three days, and you just wander into this weird fire lit community Oh, did you know James Earl Ray escaped prison before he supposedly killed or not? I don't know how it worked out but oh really Yeah, you were saying a Get it as guys he chain. He got like a nose job. Oh boy, but he also got a driver's license made it to Mexico Oh, he's in prison. He's working at a Kroger's Wow

Establish himself as a pornographic film director Using mail order equipment who has After a quarter of an eight ball, who hasn't? You sound like a fucking psychopath. He got jilted. He went to the US. He was like a bad guy. He considered emigrating to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where a predominantly white minority

regime had unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in 1965 Wow Those job yeah, and then went to Atlanta and then very quickly Started to pop out. Yeah decided to do what he did. Yeah, it's tough man The I down there is just fucking ruins everybody's drive people nuts. Yeah, especially we got that cat parasite You know? Them there all moving around in your head like, get them out of my brain! Have you seen that show From on Amazon Prime?

I haven't. Pretty good. Yo, you know what I've been watching though on Netflix? What is it? Three Body Problem. Have you seen that? I haven't seen it, I've been hearing people say it's really good it's by the people who made Game of Thrones oh really it's really good I'm wait totally unique like I don't

want to tell you much about it don't say anything it's a science fiction but it's it's totally unique you watch it you're gonna go oh shit the first thing like what is going on here yeah but after a after a while you're like, oh shit. I'm on episode four now. Fuck, dude. And there's not gonna be a season two for like three years. Yeah, that's how they do some of that shit. Well like, Stranger Things,

those motherfuckers are making a movie every week. You know? Right. They're making a one hour movie every week. Which is like so much better than a movie. You know, like Game of Thrones is better than any movie that's ever existed 100% it's so good and it's just one episode leads into the next one into the next one oh shit I can't believe she did that oh fuck he's dead now oh shit off with his head fucking they killed the king in the very first episode on real and they handicapped that kid out the gate

Remember right out the gate fuck usually it's second season for you get a handicapped kid and so Was fucking his sister and you know anybody to know But back then there weren't any rules were there I Think you're never supposed to be fucking your sister. I think that That's like back to caveman times Right. I'm sure there's something in most people that feels like hey, that's not right. Let's shut it down. Let's go outside instead Well, that's like people always thought about that with rural communities You know what the people say this a lot

I mean, I'm from obviously Louisiana people say all you know, they're always like hey, you see, you know Yeah, yeah, and the thing what happened was people didn't live close to each other so if you you're not gonna travel You're only gonna travel so far To you advocating for fucking sisters fuck no. I'm not what do you say it seems like that's what you're doing No, I'm saying this is what happened back then People aren't gonna try people aren't gonna get a train ticket to come You know, they're gonna people are only gonna have sex within a certain distance of their right? Right, that's why it happened, right? You know, it's like if a guy it's like no one there, right?

There's nobody there. So they had to fuck their sister. They didn't have to but at a certain point they got Lost and ended up back at, right by the house. You know, like, something's gotta happen here. I'm not saying it's cool, I'm just trying to tell you how it works out, like, you know, physically. Well, that's how it certainly works out in the mammal kingdom. Yeah.

Like, if you have puppies, the boy puppy will fuck his sister. Yeah. 100%. He doesn't even think twice. He'll try to fuck you. They'll try to fuck your leg. They don't even know what they're doing Oh, yeah, did I say to my buddy Brad's house one night, right? We're dead asleep, right and they let a bunch of puppies loose do those things that fucking gang banging you

I don't know if I can announce a milk on me. Those things are fucking sucking me off Like we don't think that about people right the second it's crazy how it goes from animals to people man Yeah, we're animals. We're animals Do you think there's a certain purpose for us like we there's a magical purpose for us Or do you think we are just an anomaly? Well, I think even if there's not This is a magical time It's an interesting time and especially for people like us, they get to talk to so many fascinating people. I mean we have a really cool job

not just as comics but also as doing podcasts you know and you've I think you've got a great education doing that you know a great like you're you see more introspective you're more curious about things than you know I remember before you're like I think it did the same thing to me really Yeah, yeah, yeah, I almost feel like I know why I wish I didn't know more stuff sometimes. I miss knowing nothing right yeah I'm like any sense to you for sure. I know I have my brain is filled with shit that I don't need Oh, yeah, you're a library, dude But you know the the thing more like a red box for you. We're in that one movie

But you know, the the thing more like a red box where you rent that one movie We haven't been doing it as long. I've been doing a lot longer. That's all it is It's just no it's the amount I do too. It's numbers, but you're you have a you you are You are a library You know, there's a certain types of people that can make it through certain things and you wouldn't want to educate a child on this library This is not there's not a library. You'd allow everybody to have access to no it's 16 and older I think. There's a lot of stuff in my head I was like, God I wish I didn't know that about people, you know? Oh that's interesting you don't think about the side effects of somebody being able to have like a memory that records so much. Well it's just you always concentrate on the worst possible

aspects of people and so if you know so many acts and things that people have done that have been horrific, you're always, like the back of your head always has, but maybe that could happen, you know? Like, so it always sits there. It always sits there. If you're a completely, you grow up Amish or some shit, you're like completely removed from society,

you never see any violence, you never see anything. And then all of a sudden you have to go to a bar like downtown Detroit on a Saturday night You see fist fights and people throwing glasses at each other like you'd be like what the fuck is this? I'm not ready for this. I'm not prepared for this, you know Right, but if you but if you have but if you know that exists and it's always a possibility So if you see it too much, even if you don't see it in real life, the worst thing is seeing it in real life. That's what we were talking earlier about cops. Cops are seeing it every day in real life.

So you just get like super accustomed to seeing people dead, super accustomed to seeing people get injured. Yeah, it's crazy how therapists make like 150 bucks. It's crazy how therapists make like $150 an- It's crazy how therapists make like 150 dollars an hour, right? Right. But cops, who are basically therapists, that also have to shoot at people. Right. Make 40 bucks an hour.

I know. Like, that's crazy, dude. What do you think about that? It's crazy. And nobody wants that job. It is crazy. But if you paid them like heroes, I feel like they would more fucking gladiators would show up and do it. Yeah. And they would have a real force out there you know and you would fall asleep at night knowing that severe warriors were taking

care of your fucking community yes you think that's possible or not people don't want to know that we need that they don't want to kind of believe that you need like masculine dangerous men to protect you but that's always been the case and if you're just looking realistically about violence and crime in the world, it exists. There's no utopian spot. So violence and crime exists. There's only one way you can shield the non-violent people who aren't committing crimes from the criminals, and that's dangerous men. You need dangerous armed men who are trained and are

capable. That's what you need. It doesn't mean they should be running everything. It means you need 100% protection from dangerous people. Then, here's the number one thing that nobody addresses. You gotta figure out why are so many people coming out of these same communities year after year after year after year being dangerous

where no one's doing shit about it. No one's trying to fix it. No one's trying to enhance it. No one's trying to like recognize like do you know much income we're losing because these people don't grow up to become productive members of society. You know much damage it's causing if they go on to commit violent crimes and if whatever drug dealing any anything that can come out of that. And do you know how much of a burden it is on the taxpayer to sort of put them through the criminal system and how much of that could be completely removed if that person grows up and becomes a productive member of society and instead starts contributing to society and it's a success story?

That's not impossible to do, but there's been no effort, no engineering, large-scale national effort to completely eliminate these horrible spots in this country. And not make everything the same and perfect, that's not possible, but there's a level of poverty that exists in this country that's unmanageable. You should never be that poor if you're a part of a community. If you're a part of a community You're a community that takes care of everybody There's no reason why you have 175 billion dollars to ship to Ukraine But you don't have any money to make sure that no one exists below a certain level

Yeah, get fucked when that kind of shit happens. They shouldn't be helping these other countries I don't know why we send money to Israel Ukraine. I just don don't understand why we, there's just people suffering here, you know? There's people that have been taken advantage of in our own country. And it's like, you don't want to be selfish, but if you don't take care, if you don't know your inventory, then your business is gonna fail, right?

That's a, that is, that is a law. If you don't take stock of your own inventory, your business will fail. And we don't have stock of our own inventory and we don't have a healthy inventory, you it's like it's just like I don't understand how it's so crazy. The weird thing is I start thinking is that a radical idea? It didn't used to be a radical idea but it became a radical idea when people started floating about the idea that capitalism is evil all

capitalism is bad there's all these people that have these utopian notions of how we should run our society. Well, maybe it could be true at a certain point. I think it's going to probably have to be true at a certain point because of AI. I think we're gonna get to some weird point where money seems like it's just ones and zeros. It's just numbers, and it's a bottleneck.

The bottleneck of information, right? Because you can't have access to all the information if you have access to all the money Then where's the money go? That's crazy But if we get to this point where we evolve past the state We're at now where you can't trust people to not steal your money Where you can't trust people to not lie where you can't trust people to not manipulate things and try for their own benefit. If human beings can eventually get to a place like that, then I could see a time in our evolved future where we don't need money, or when everybody has the same amount, where instead of having this desire to constantly acquire goods and constantly acquire status and like prestige in the community, have the bigger house, the bigger, if that completely goes away and

human beings really are one hive mind, I could see where we could equally share resources. Yeah. But we're, that's like either a cyborg or a million years in the future. I'm talking about like where we get past all of our primitive cave people Instincts and DNA that I think fucks with everything is the cause of almost all of our problems Is who we are innately it's just our programming is fucked. Yeah, there's our programming is the same Well, you know this there's there's some variations that have cured over time, but reasonably similar, I should say, to people that lived 10,000 years ago. So if you took a person from 10,000 years ago

and you put him in a t-shirt like this and sat him in the movie theater, you wouldn't be able to tell. It would just look like us. Nuh-uh. Yeah, yeah. So. Really, you think?

100%, yeah. I mean, they might have been smaller because they didn't give us as much food But a little like a small person. Yeah, we wouldn't know you wouldn't know they would look just like us So if you just put him in a suit and tie and sat him down that guy would be like what the fuck? Yeah, and that's basically us So that person if you got a person lives 10,000 years ago, the amount of barbaric incidents that guy's probably seen by the time he becomes an adult, the amount of people he's probably seen slaughtered with swords and spears and seeing people lit on fire. That's all inside of us though. Right. All that programming of like everybody's the

enemy and you got to protect the fields and protect the that is all a part of our programming and as technology increases and as we become more interconnected that's gonna be one of the biggest problems that we face is abandoning these bizarre primate characteristics that we still hold on to hmm because they're in our DNA and they're not managed well. People need to manage them to suppress them. Some people- Yeah, we try to pretend they don't exist.

We try to pretend they don't exist. Sorry if I stepped on you. No, no, no. I've been interrupting you a lot, man. I'm sorry, dude. You're awesome, man. What are you doing? Stop doing that.

Don't apologize. It's not that piece of it. My kidneys are starting to think. Let's wrap it up. We've been doing this for three hours. Have we really?? Yeah, it's almost not all five Oh, man, I love you. I know I'm always trying to get you to move here But it's cuz I think you'd be happier here and selfishly I want no. Oh, thank you, dude. I appreciate it No, I want to be around this year's just been it's just been uh It's been like every time I'm not doing a podcast. I have to like I'm traveling for work

Or it's like it's been a busy time. Hey if we open up another mothership Do you think Nashville would be a good spot? Yeah? Is there enough would be be fucking with zanies or you think we would help it? No, I think it would be good because I think there's enough people there where you could do Do you have enough comics in Nashville? How many comics are in Nashville? There's some I have like a base. You know like that want perform all the time, right? I'll do some recon for you We're thinking we're thinking to go in other spots. Yeah. Yeah Well, that would be cool man, cuz at least I know the area could I be you know

I thought about going to the most woke place in Brooklyn setting up shop The mother you get I Bet it would thrive though. Well well we can find out there's only one way to do it dude wow man I can't believe it's so crazy that I was there to watch the at least like the elect just like what a night and was like it was really fun time to watch the election at the club in the green room we're all hopping back and forth off stage like who's winning I know it was fun man it was so crazy dude drink a diet coke. I'm having a good time

The Yvonne I love you to death one of my favorite people. I appreciate you very much. I love you, too, man Thanks for being inspiring and thanks for um, yes Sometimes you would like I would do a podcast episode you would just say you would reach out and say hey, man Uh, I like that episode and it just meant a lot. I just want to let you know that. It's- Well, it does. You do a great job, man. I really love your show. I think you got some great interviews

and you got a great, you got a nice way of being yourself, you know, when you're talking to anybody. And that's what I think people really like. They like to see conversations where people are just being themselves. And the fact that you could do that with Trump, that's fun.

It's inspiring. So it's nice to see, man. I really, really love it. Well, thanks. Thanks, man. Yeah's inspiring. So it's nice to see, man. I really, really love it. Well, thanks. Thanks, man. Yeah, I think it means a lot to people when somebody they admire like says something nice to them, you know, it's just nature. It is, yeah. We like it. I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me, dude. My pleasure. All right. Bye, everybody. Thanks for watching!