The Joe Rogan Experience - #2231 - Jimmy Corseti & Dan Richards

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Jimmy Corsetti and Dan Richards are independent researchers whose YouTube channels, "Bright Insight" and "DeDunking the Past," respectively, examine lost civilizations and alternative history. www.yo...utube.com/c/BrightInsight  www.youtube.com/@DeDunking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:48 Thank you very much for that video. We talked about it before, but I don't want to say it publicly. The debunking of the debunking by Flint Dibble. You really nailed him on so many of those things that he was dishonest about. I wish we knew in real time, but unfortunately, it takes a lot of research to be able to figure out what he was telling the truth about and when he wasn't yeah You know about it. Thank. Oh, thank you. I was tell everybody your site to Deduncan the be dunking the past does my email deduncan on YouTube or on Twitter? That's with two D's like my ex
Starting point is 00:01:21 Not debunking Sorry, that's okay. I'm sorry D dunking not debunking. Sorry. Keep this... Oh sorry. That's okay. I'm sorry. D-dunking not debunking. Yes, Dan Richards. Dan Richards, thank you. Yeah, the thing with Flint, it was actually funny, the moment that I knew that he was lying about the science was when you asked him about the feralization of plants. That's where they roll back into being no longer domesticated. He was like, I'll just take thousands of years. It's like, no, no, no, no, I've researched this and I know better. And he was just knee jerking straight at thousands of years. And when you pressed him, he's like,
Starting point is 00:01:51 well, I don't know for sure. Well, that's a bummer, because that's his field of study, which is really kind of crazy. It's a really fascinating thing that seeds do adapt to agriculture, they adapt to the fact that they it's better for the survival of the plant if one, you develop agriculture, if they're more robust and they stay on the plant, it's better for the wild if they break off easy and they can scatter better and they can proliferate. Yeah, it's really basic if you think about it. I mean, if it stays on the plant after it's ripe, it's just sitting there waiting for the first thing to come along and eat
Starting point is 00:02:22 it. That whole natural selection thing when it comes to plants is so fascinating. But the question was so simple. If you stopped having agriculture and these plants just grew wild, would they go back to the same characteristics of wild plants? And he was like, no, there's no evidence of that. But then I saw your video and then I looked at some other stuff and there's quite a bit of evidence of this, particularly with wild rice, right? Yes, particularly with wild rice. Yes, that one it looks like out of any of them, if there's a possibility that one was domesticated and then went back to the wild and then was domesticated again, it would be rice.
Starting point is 00:02:53 That shows multiple types. There's different ways the seeds can break off, right? They can break in different points of the plant where they can just fall straight out. And rice shows numerous pass layer where wheat only has one genetic pathway to that seed shatter where the seed falls off. So it's um, it gets pretty complicated, but rice does rice does have a lot of genetic possibilities for that. No, I'm not a geneticist so I'm sure that somebody's gonna come and you know say this is pseudo crap, but ultimately at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:03:22 Flint was treating it as a debate Ultimately, at the end of the day, Flint was treating it as a debate, whereas you and Graham were both trying to sift to the truth. And that's why he was not going to give Graham one little corner, one little shred of possibility of being right anywhere when in reality, it's a lot of, it's just like everything else in life, it's a lot of gray. Well, it's also this whole subject of the past is it's so obviously confusing because when you look at I watched your video today the Baalbek video just looking at the enormous size of those stones there's no reasonable explanation how people like what is that
Starting point is 00:03:59 dated to like what year do they believe it was made? This is where it gets fun is because they credit it to the Romans and the Phoenicians. However, it goes beyond the sophistication and the capabilities what the Romans were known to have, whether it's the existence of the screw jack for lifting the stones. But Baalbek, which is located in Lebanon, and I had the great privilege of going there in September of last year, exactly one month before things kicked off in Israel with the whole Hamas thing. And if I hadn't got there then I wouldn't have no chance. Like right now Israel's bombing
Starting point is 00:04:29 Lebanon. And so it's a dangerous place. But Baalbek, if there was one example, one ancient site on earth that is evidence of a lost ancient advanced civilization, and by advanced I'm not talking about space lasers here. I'm talking about more sophisticated than what we were taught in school for the known capabilities. And Balbeck has the largest stones that were ever quarried in human history, the largest stones that were lifted, stacked, and transported in human history, and the largest stone columns in all of classical history. And we're talking, so the Trilithon stones, three stones, 900 tons a piece or 800 metric tons, and they
Starting point is 00:05:06 were moved a half a mile from the quarry. They were lifted and stacked approximately 30 feet off the ground. And when I say stacked, they were perfectly lined up. And Jamie, it's in my folder of ball back if you want to show some of these. And they're absolutely massive. So let me tell you right here, and I of course have the gentleman there who I'll tell you about later highlighted just to kind of show you for perspective. Like that's someone right there. It's five foot eleven. Those stones that are highlighted in red are the Trilithon stones.
Starting point is 00:05:32 But these pictures do not do it justice because it's taken through an ultra wide camera lens from the top to bottom of the red highlighted stones is 14 feet and they're 62 feet long or 62 feet excuse me like it that there's me and it's hard to tell because of the perspective and people need to kind of understand how a wide-angle lens sort of distorts things by showing you this enormous field of view but when you're looking at something that's 14 feet long and 60 excuse me 60 62 feet long and 14 feet high Like what is the weight of that? What's the overall weight? 900 Imperial tons or 800 metric tons and to anyone listening a metric ton is 2200 pounds 1000 kilograms and an imperial ton is 2,000 pounds. So that's one point seven million pounds
Starting point is 00:06:26 each of them and there's three of them. And if you were to go to the quarry, there's ones that are 1200 tons and even 1500 tons that are 20 feet tall. This is mind-boggling. Like, Jamie, if you want to just scroll through some of the other photos to kind of give Joe the perspective and the audience the perspective. These are clearly cut stones that were moved into place and moved 23 feet above the ground. Right, and technically 30 feet because there's stones that are actually below the ground there that you can't see because it's submerged under the earth. So technically it was 30 feet, but 23 feet off the ground today. And right there this highlights, so not only is that
Starting point is 00:07:02 14 feet from top to bottom, which you would never realize when you're looking at this, and these are confirmed measurements, by the way. This is right out of encyclopedias. But notice how they're completely flush, nice and even with each other. And this exceeds the known capabilities of what the Romans had. And it's worth mentioning that this site is some 2400 miles from Rome, the capital. And if they're going to say that this was created by the Romans, one, people need to understand that the Romans were renowned for documenting everything, yet this site is not
Starting point is 00:07:33 credited to anybody. They don't know exactly who did it or when, but the academics conclude that it had to have been the Romans or the Phoenicians because, of course, there was no one before them. And with this photo right here, let me say something else. There is evidence of at least two, but arguably three different architectures that were done at this site. And I would conclude that this is evidence that this site existed in prehistoric times. There's also, I could show you encyclopedias that talk about Balbek being prehistoric in nature dating back 11,000 years of human history. And what I argue is that it was built up, it was found by the Romans and the Phoenicians and built upon later. And right here is evidence for all that have eyes to see. Look how they obviously
Starting point is 00:08:16 use broken stones and constructed on top of it. Why would you go from making the most advanced stones in history that far exceed anything you see in Rome. For example, if you were to go to the Colosseum, as magnificent as that is, it is architecture of mathematics and just brilliance. But this right here, why would they use the, why would they, for all the feats of Roman history, why would they have the most impressive feats over 2000 miles away from the capital? In fact, let me just say this, when I'm talking about 900 tons stones, the largest stone in all of Rome is 53 tons. It's the Trajan's capital block to make up the Trajan's column. 53 tons. This is 15 times heavier.
Starting point is 00:08:58 There's a number of things to, I'm not a huge believer in ancient technology. I'm not a big believer in ancient technology, as Jimmy's well aware. Which is why it's important that you're here, because people are going to hear multiple perspectives. Yeah, that's where I can tell you some things about Baalbek that are still interesting to me. One of them is you don't see the Roman foot in those stones, which is weird. You would expect to see some sort of breakdown of the Roman foot in these measurements, but
Starting point is 00:09:23 they're not there at Baalbek. They are there on the stones that were quarried from the ground. By Roman foot, what you're saying is that there's a different measurement what they considered a foot. It's not 12 inches. Correct. There's a Roman unit of measurement that they would use in construction. And we don't see it in those stones in the Trilithon, but there's three stones that were quarried and left in the ground. All of those stones show signs of using the Roman foot. Jamie, will you scroll over to this? So that right off the bat shows to me that the ones that were installed were not built by the Romans, but the ones that were quarried were made by the Romans. They were trying to quarry out stones to match
Starting point is 00:09:58 it. Right here. Another thing is that's crazy. Roman architecture always uses the most impressive things right in the front. You walk in the front of the thing and that Roman architecture always uses the most impressive things right in the front. You walk in the front of the thing and that's where you're going to see the biggest stones, the most impressive for obvious reasons. These are in the back, completely on the opposite end of the entrance. So you have to collect from what you told me, you kind of have to look for them if you don't know where they're at, right? Like you can't just show up on the site and they say, here's the Trilathon. Well, let me tell you a quick story real quick. So I had the pleasure of going there with some people and I'll tell you about it later. I won't do the
Starting point is 00:10:26 name drop just yet. But Dory, who lives in Lebanon, he toured us around and he had been to the site three times before. When we went it was his fourth time. He did not know of the existence of the Trilithon stones. They're around back. You got to walk probably a third of a mile to get there. They don't even bring the tours around to the Trilithon Stones. He had no idea what I was talking about the night before dinner. I'm trying to explain to him,
Starting point is 00:10:49 like the Trilithon Stones, the 900-ton stones. And I had to show him a picture. He had never seen them before. How do they not show the tourists this? That's an excellent question. Now, you do have to walk, to be honest, it's like a 12, 15-minute walk to go around to get there. I mean, it's part of the platform, but you have to to walk to be honest. It's like a 12 15 minute walk to go around to get there I mean, it's part of the platform
Starting point is 00:11:07 But you have to go all the way around and some people just don't feel like making the walk and when we were there We were totally alone for a half hour with these stones not a single person There was hundreds of people at the site not a single one of them came around back Now just to clarify with the audience is seeing right now. This is at the quarry, which is a half mile away This is where all the stones originate from and And this one right here is what's called the stone of the pregnant woman. It is 1200 tons. As you can see, it's 14 feet tall, which is the same height. So when those trilithon stones that was showing you a moment ago, this, the only difference is that this one's 68 feet long. It's virtually the same size, except
Starting point is 00:11:41 for just a few feet shorter, but it's the same height. So that gentleman right there, Pierre, who's a wonderful man, is six foot tall and look at him just dwarfed by this stone. Twelve hundred tons. Insane. Right. And it's not from there. Well, no, it is. This was at the quarry. So this one's at the quarry but the ones that were placed placed where are they from this quarry, which is a half mile away
Starting point is 00:12:07 So this is so they moved one million eight hundred pounds a half a mile Three of them and that doesn't include the two dozen that are 350 tons a piece That doesn't include the nine that are 600 tons a piece Nine stones that are 600 tons a piece are somehow a side note to the Trilophon Stones. And let me just tell you this. This is something, Jamie, if you scroll over a few to articles involving, because this is what the audience needs to understand. A lot of people hear these numbers and they don't wrap their head around exactly how important this is, which is that the, go to the article involving the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Okay. It's in the same folder of ball back and the largest stone moved in modern times is 340 tons. Um, and we're going to come back to all these photos too, because it's extremely important. Uh, there's some details in here. That's the one at that goofy museum in LA. Yes. Um, which is by the way, a very goofy museum. Yeah, I haven't been there. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. It's there's an acrylic box that's on the ground. Yeah, you're supposed to interpret as art.
Starting point is 00:13:13 It's just a box that's just sitting there. It's one of those places where you go there and you go What is my tax dollars going to? Motherfuckers. Go to the other folder that's moving stones stones So let me just while he's looking for that let me explain to you So saw the video on that and said what this is is there was a suspended stone Yeah, it's an enormous stone that they placed there as part of their art piece Yeah, and this thing was not that one not that Jamie just fails. That's it. Yeah, we'll play that video in a little bit It's pretty funny. They had to move this stone It was four miles an hour is the fastest they can move it They had to build a structure around the stone to move it. Yes. So this fucking insanely huge truck
Starting point is 00:13:55 Let me tell you so the details it is a 200 So they had to custom build a trailer truck around the stone itself. Jamie, look under the moving stones folder. There's not a folder, it's just a video. Go to, let's see here, scroll down a little bit, go to Ramesium Statue. Man, you're using a Mac, it doesn't show you the preview of the pictures. Silly Macs.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Keep looking until you find of a big red truck, but I'll tell the audience while you're looking for it Exactly what we're talking about here. So Yeah, keep going back back. You're on it. Go back a little bit go back to the article three go left like three times Right there go back or right there. So this one stone 340 tons they call it the largest operation of its kind since the Egyptians built the pyramids. They had to custom build a 260 foot long trailer truck that consists of 196 semi truck wheels. It has 44 axles, it's 32 feet long, it took a year of planning,
Starting point is 00:14:57 it cost $10 million. It took nine days to move this 340 ton stone. What a great use of taxpayers money, $10 million. There's no way they needed that money for LA. Yeah, who cares about potholes and homeless people? No way, I mean this is more important. And so this is what's so important, is that this the largest stone moved in human history is at the Ramecium. It's the Ramecium statue in Egypt. It's 1,000 metric tons which is 2.2 million pounds. That was inexplicably moved 170 miles from the Khori and Aswan. And here's the
Starting point is 00:15:30 significance of this. Brother, this stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one-third the weight. The stone at the ramecium is three times heavier. And how far did they move that stone? This one at the museum? No, no, the one, the Ramiseum. 170 miles and the other one was moved 106 miles. 170 miles! It's 2 million pounds!
Starting point is 00:15:54 And so this is where things get really fun, is that they say, the academics, they say that the stones would have been moved on tree logs. Because that's their best guess. And it's not an unreasonable guess. But when you look into the nuance details, so I really nerded out hard on this. There's a lot of people are you
Starting point is 00:16:12 familiar with the Mohs scale of hardness? No. So it's the measurement of stone. And it's often used by alternative ancient history buffs to say that, hey, copper based tooling could not have been utilized to cut granite stone like the that's been claimed. And there's no evidence that the Egyptians that the Egyptians never told us they use bronze tooling to cut the stones that make up the granite stones within the pyramid. And so I started asking him like, wait a second, if they're going to say that they moved a 2.2 million pound stone on tree logs, well, they say that it
Starting point is 00:16:44 was the cedar, the the Lebanon cedar trees. Well, they say that it was the cedar, the Lebanon cedar trees. Well, I nerded out on this and there's something called the Janka scale of hardness, which measures the hardness of wood and it's often used for, if you're gonna pick wood flooring in your house. Cedar is a very soft wood.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It's one of the softest on earth, not the softest, but it's so soft that it would never even be considered for flooring in your house because your furniture and your heels would dent it immediately. And if you were to put significant weight on it, whatever that weight is, it would either crush it, crumble it, or at least dent it out of a circle or being a circular nature to roll on. And so when you look into the nuanced details involving the mysterious accomplishments of the ancients, it becomes abundantly clear. Like if I had one thesis, it's that the true history of the ancients, it becomes abundantly clear. Like if I had one thesis, it's that the true history of mankind was more advanced than
Starting point is 00:17:30 what we were taught in school. Now how advanced? That's the fun topic and we will dive into that here in the next couple hours. But the reality is that there's evidence for all who have eyes to see that there are, I mean, again, brother, a thousand metric ton statue and this is, this is right out of encyclopedias. Show the statue. So this is the statue. It somehow or another fell. Yeah, so it was a seated statue. That's me in front of it and it's broken into multiple pieces. There's some images Jamie of what it originally looked like. Look, so that foot, it's up to my belly button. Like the top of the foot. That's just the foot.
Starting point is 00:18:05 There's another picture that would, an illustration that would show you what it would have looked like when it was full. There, go back one. So that's what it looks like from an aerial shot now. It's completely toppled over. God knows what would have taken to knock this thing over. They would, they say, probably an earthquake.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It was a seated statue. I, if it was a standing statue, I could say that's what it looked like originally. That's what they, yes. And again, a thousand metric tons is 2.2 million pounds. How it got knocked over in itself to me might be indicators of some sort of cataclysm, but that's a side point. But the point is this, it was moved 170 miles. They do not, the Egyptians did not articulate, illustrate, or describe how they would have done so. And...
Starting point is 00:18:49 Isn't that part of the problem with like the burning of the Library of Alexandria is all that information was lost forever? Yes. Here's the thing. Let me say this real quick. Brother, the Library of Alexandria was like thousands of years before the Great Pyramid. Like the Library of Alexandria was just after, was it 47 AD or BC that it got destroyed is believed,
Starting point is 00:19:10 something around there. So 2000 years ago, this statue is 3000 years old, according to the academics. So this is 1000 years before the Library of Alexandria. So yeah, it's not unreasonable to suggest that they would have had information about how they constructed these things. In fact, I want to believe that they did,
Starting point is 00:19:24 but it's gone. Yeah, they might not have. What were you going to say, James? When you're talking about the... We look at the way that they moved the stones, like you're talking about the cedar. They moved one stone in human history that was really big. The biggest stone ever moved was the thunder stone. It was moved by Catherine the Great's people. Late 1700s. Late 1700s. They used a big team of people and they moved this thing not very far like 10 miles, 8 miles, something like that. Nine miles. And it took over ocean. And it took nine months. And when they were pulling this thing on the
Starting point is 00:19:54 ground they had to consistently try metallurgy, different types of ball bearings for it to roll on because the ones they were moving would keep being crushed and then they had to use screw jacks that are just like you jack up a house floor with like a sub floor. They would use these screwjacks to lift the statue back up and put it on bearings Well, the Romans didn't have a screwjack the DJ We had metallurgy would trying different kinds of ball bearings and shit. That's something way outside. I mean the 1700s 1700s we're talking right at the cusp of them actually making structural steel, you know This is the beginning of iron bridges and shit.
Starting point is 00:20:25 They were actually making good metallurgy then and it still took trial and error to move this stone. And it's that stone's basically the same size as the ones at Baalbeck, a tiny bit bigger. But the same kind of issues where they would have had to have jacked that thing up, they would have had to, which would have took steel or hard, hard metal. They would basically, they had to have some highly advanced metal urgey for the time not as good as we have now, but 1700s level of metallurgy. That's what it would have taken. And the Romans did not have that level of sophisticated. So that's the thing. So there's
Starting point is 00:20:57 something that you informed me of Dan and this is let me just give you a shout out. Hey everybody, go subscribe to D dunking on YouTube. Your channel is a gold mine that is bringing you are bridging together the facts that the alternative theorists are presenting, as well as the academics and you're differentiating the truth and your truth and your channel is so valuable. And what you taught me is that the invention of the screw jack was utilized in order to lift that thunderstone, the bronze horseman on top of that, those metal rails. So with the Egyptian or excusestone, the bronze horseman, on top of those metal rails. So with the Romans didn't have that.
Starting point is 00:21:29 That wasn't invented until thousands of years later. So without that screw jack, they would have never been able to lift it in the first place. That stone would have just sat there. You said something that you don't believe in ancient technology. I don't believe in ancient high technology in the regards that generally speaking, when you start getting- Can you put this microphone on? I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:48 It's okay, put it like a fist from your face. I'm so sorry about that. That's okay. I'm not a believer in ancient high technology in regards that I don't believe like, even ancient steam engines would be like pushing it. When you start talking like really advanced stuff, I tend to look for other explanations. I tend to
Starting point is 00:22:06 look for, you know, stone was the premier building material for hominids for like millions of years, literally millions of years. So father passed to his son how to do this sort of thing and eventually you get to a point where we start working with metal and that that kind of just dies off. We quit doing that for a while and then a thousand years goes by and we look at what our ancestors used to do and we're like, holy shit But I honestly think a lot of this stuff that we just saw how they did it We would just be like well fuck why didn't I think of that? But but wait a minute when you're talking about moving things that are a thousand tons and you're moving them through the mountains
Starting point is 00:22:40 Okay, how I? Why wouldn't you believe in? Let's put it this way. I'm not opposed to the idea mountains. Like how? I mean, why wouldn't you believe in some sort of ancient technology? Let's put it this way. I'm not opposed to the idea, but we need to get there first. Like if we're going, like we're talking about the Thunderstone or the Baalbek stones, going from like, I feel like we need to exhaust every other possibility before we can start hanging our hat on something bigger than that. What other possibilities could you even conceive of?
Starting point is 00:23:04 That's, I've been open to the conversation. But it is technology, right? I mean, it has to be a form of very sophisticated technology if you're going to move something that heavy. It would be definitely something bigger, better than we know, or different than we know. But like, I give an example that I've used with Jim Jim before was you know when this World War II ended America ended all their sniper schools overseas to tighten the budget and Vietnam started we didn't have any sniper schools and the NCOs on the ground say hey we need trained snipers they had to actually recruit snipers
Starting point is 00:23:37 sharpshooters from the American Olympic team because we didn't have trained snipers anymore in 20 years we had better tools, worse results because of the lack of skills. So I'm of the opinion that there's some... Right, but the sniper is something that we're all very well aware of. It's conceivable, it's obvious how you would do it. You could explain it to the lay person. Yeah, you can. But it was something that still there was a skill set that was lost in just 20 years. That's all I think that I think that like a lot of things you see a lot of the ideas for moving the big rocks.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Some guys will use like, like they think they're like vacuum like water pressure vacuums were used to pull rocks up tubes and all kinds of you see all kinds of interesting hypothesis that use lower tech means that I tend to think most of my think that don't work but I tend to think that those would be the direction we should be looking before we go to ancient high technology and again the reason the reason that I think that is because if we do get to ancient high technology we really need to have eliminated everything else but we get there in order to be taken seriously I guess that's kind of how I look at I'm a more skeptical person. Real quick, so
Starting point is 00:24:46 let's back up to this and see if we agree on this. Would you agree that what we were taught in school that the ancients were more sophisticated than the described narrative? Oh yeah, absolutely. See then there you go. So we're on the same page because it's like what's technology? Like do they have space lasers and hydraulics? I'm not suggesting that. Bow and arrow is technology. Right, a horse saddle technology, right? So they had something else. Oh yeah, they definitely, I guess, like, when I get to the, I think when most people think high technology, like you say space lasers and stuff, powered things, like something where they were no longer using human power or water power, something they were harnessing energy or doing sophisticated chemistry, things like that's where I start to be like, well, I need more evidence to go that far with it.
Starting point is 00:25:29 However, the moving of the big rocks is something that I'm quick to say, but in order to do it, we would need, if we were to do it, we would need technology well outside of what they had available to them at the time. And in my opinion, if you look at those, like at Baalbek which will go back to that you've got the three big stones that were put in a wall that don't have the Roman unit of measurement used and we got three big rocks in the ground that do have the Roman unit of measurement I think that they gave up they realized they weren't able to do it they had one group carving them and the guys tasked to move them looked at what the fuck are you guys on
Starting point is 00:26:00 about you know way we're moving these things you're on crack and the fact that it's undocumented like the foundation of ball back is completely undocumented though. Go ahead Do you were saying something about dating it to 11,000 years there's so Jamie if you go to the ball back folder You'll find an encyclopedia article that describes the evidence of human habitation at ball back dating back 9,000 BC which is 11,000 years ago and habitation at Balbek dating back 9,000 BC, which is 11,000 years ago. And I'm not suggesting these stones were created back then. I'm open to it. What is the evidence? Like what kind of evidence pottery? Oh, sure. I'd have to go read that through the scientific article, but it's humans were
Starting point is 00:26:37 there 11,000 years ago. And the fact that they don't document when the when the Romans were, yeah, see right there. And there's another arc. There's both. History of the dates back at least 11,000 years, encompassing significant periods such as prehistoric, Canaanite, Hellenistic, and Roman eras after Alexander the Great conquered the city in 334 BCE. He renamed it Heliopolis. Heliopolis.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Heliopolis. Greek for sun city. The city flourished under Roman rule Now let me say this real quick Jamie. Will you go to the picture of the the mountains in this folder? So the this is something that's unbelievable Alright, so just scroll through all these photos of the mountains because here's something that people need to understand that is unbelievably significant Which is that all at Baalbek? There are approximately 200 rose granite columns that were transported
Starting point is 00:27:25 from the Aswan Quarry in Egypt, which is 700 miles as the bird flies. And what's wild is that the only way to get them to Baalbek, because the Baalbek is located in the middle of the Lebanon mountains, and it has an average elevation of 8,000 feet with peaks reaching over 10,000 feet. As you can see, there's a freaking ski resort there, which I couldn't believe when I was driving there. There was literally the ski lifts. I went there in September. So they had to bring all of those multi-ton columns, stone columns from Egypt. And the only way to get there was over these mountains, which is mind blowing. And what you're saying by how the crow flies as the crow flies, what people need to understand
Starting point is 00:28:04 is that doesn't take into account elevation changes. So if you're if you have a flat line like a bird and you're flying from one point to another that's 700 miles, but if you have to go up and down and up and down and up and down it's significantly larger in measurement. It's not 700 miles, it's probably double that. Right, that's an excellent point. And it's like 700 miles. It's probably double that right. That's an excellent point And it's like then the question is like why would they do this like why would they go out of the how and why? How why is like it's cool? But yeah, how is the real question like how do you mean obviously we built things because it's cool, right?
Starting point is 00:28:38 You know if you go to the Acropolis and the Parthenon you go why they do it was fucking cool, you know Like people like to leave cool shit by right, but you look at Baalbek So there's a lot of interesting things about it like it has the largest temple of Jupiter out of anywhere on the Roman Empire Generally speaking it's got some of the biggest temples in the Roman Empire period But it's a far-flung corner of their empire and it's not an important city really mean it semi important in the region But it's certainly no Cairo or anything right the whole but but it has all these huge temples my opinion is my thinking is that they showed up and there was this massive stonework there and these are the Romans they can't have you these can't have the locals thinking their ancestors were better than
Starting point is 00:29:18 the Romans so they fucking hijack it just build big shit on top of it this is now ours we plant our stamp on it this is a Roman building. This is all Roman now. This was never your ancestors This was always ours And then the locals don't ever you can't look to their forefathers or whatever legends they had in a couple generations Just the power of Rome. Well, even the Parthenon it's built on the Acropolis and the Acropolis is older than the Parthenon Mmm, and it's you know, who made that? Everybody just shrugs their shoulders. Other folks? Whatever. Look at what we did.
Starting point is 00:29:51 The only thing we put up here. You know, what's interesting about Baalbek as well is that it's in the Bible. The Lebanon Mountains are mentioned 103 times in the Bible. I am not a Bible thumper. I am a believer in a divine creation. I'm proud to say it because I've seen the proof of my own life. However, what's interesting is about Baalbek is that they said that it was created by Baal, which is like this demon entity in the Bible, and they declare it as the world's first civilization after the Flood, and it was created by giants as punishment for what their iniquities of the Flood.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Oh, wow. And I have an article about it, Jamie, if you scroll through you'll find it. Now we're in the Anunnaki territory. There you go. Finally. Stiching has entered the chat. Hold on, go back to those cranes. Let me tell you this. So what you're looking at here is the Romans most sophisticated crane in their history. It had a max lifting capacity of 6.6 tons. In other words, to lift just one of those trilith on stones you would need 133 of these which is obviously completely not feasible whatsoever
Starting point is 00:30:52 You couldn't you wouldn't have the space to do it and it's just ridiculous to suggest you would coordinate through 133 cranes around it So what is what I'm trying to say is that it's further Suggestive evidence that the Romans didn't build it because they didn't have the capability to lift stones of that mass Yeah, they're still pretty fascinating the Romans were able to build a crane that could lift six tons That's amazing, but not enough to even lift the stones that were inside the King's chamber, right? So let me let me put this in a perspective So the largest stones inside the the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid are approximately 80 tons stones inside the the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid are approximately 80 tons imperial so actually 78 tons imperial or 70 tons metric removed some
Starting point is 00:31:30 500 miles from the Aswan Quarry and lifted and stacked hundreds of feet above the ground but here's what's wild is that those stones the largest stones the Great Pyramid compared to the Trilithon stones the Trilithon stones are 15 times heavier not, not twice as heavy. Not three times as heavy, not ten times as heavy. As a guy who's skeptical of that stuff, ancient high technology, there's a couple of things that make it where it's like, I straight up can't explain. Baalbek is one of them. You can, you can, you could use those cranes and lay them on their side and drag that stone across the ground. That's exactly what they did with the Thunderstone, Catherine the Great's time.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But then you are tasked with lifting that son of a bitch and all of a sudden you're right back to where you started. You can drag it across however you want, but when you get to picking it up 14 feet off the ground. And they dragged it on those those rails though. Yeah, more than 23 feet off the ground. Oh yeah, 30 feet, right. Yeah, it is 30 feet as documented. I have 23 feet illustrated because it's where the ground is now right but it's the the foundation of it goes subsurface so it's like you know with these details like there's a reason why there is a growing interest in the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations
Starting point is 00:32:38 because smart people of all kinds of walks of life are looking into the nuanced details and realizing like oh wait a second like when Graham Hancock says that there's a missing chapter of human history, like this is reality. We don't know how they built the Great Pyramid. It is a fact that the Egyptians left us with no explanation of any kind out of the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs all over Egypt. Not a single one of them describes how they constructed the pyramid or how they cut granite stones.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Not one. Not a single one of them describes how they constructed the pyramid or how they cut granite stones not one Yeah, there's not there's big lacks of big gaps in the knowledge is where we end up having these kinds of discussions And I think to go back to where we first started we mentioned Flint at the beginning it that We have a problem in my opinion that most people that see things kind of like I do as opposed to like Jimmy or yourself Does where they're looking where it's I kind of need to take my steps to get to that ancient high technology. They end up going that just straight debunker out. And then they get skeptical. That's skeptical.
Starting point is 00:33:33 They get cynical. They turn into assholes. They turn into, they're looking for ways to shoot this down. I just fuck your idea, right? Just saw your idea is wrong. So I know what the implications are instead of saying, well, you know, maybe there's other implications. Let's have a discussion about it they just go straight to no this is impossible this is stupid make fun of the person compare it to flat-eartherism compare
Starting point is 00:33:52 it to aliens. Naziism? In Flynn's case even worse he's somehow another tax to white supremacy. It's not just Flynn it's that fucking John Hoops, man, he's the one that started that shit. He's, he's, uh, that guy, Wikipedia, and we can talk about that for a quick second. John Hoops is a professor for the university, for Kansas University, and he is been on, been one of the earliest editors of Wikipedia consistently. Graham Hancock's page, Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis page, all kinds of pseudo-archaeology and all pyramids and Atlantis, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He's got locked. It's not just that he edits it. Him and his buddies edit it, and you can't go in and edit it. There's a scientist from the Comet Research Group that tried to edit the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis page and was told he can't because it's a conflict of interest. A fucking scientist that works on this shit's a conflict of interest, but a scientist from outside the field isn't? By the way, John Hoopes studied at Harvard and Yale.
Starting point is 00:34:49 He got his undergrad, I believe, from Harvard and his PhD from Yale or vice versa. This is significant because he's controlling the information. He hides this stuff too. He'll tell you that, I watched him tell Forbes, hey, you guys need to cite Wikipedia instead of just because they said the younger drys impact hypothesis and they just made a real quick article about it with no skepticism he says you need to cite Wikipedia as well he edits the Wikipedia page and doesn't mention that he edits it when he tells people to go look at the what's his motivation for he hates bunking this stuff he doesn't like Graham Hancock he doesn't he think
Starting point is 00:35:23 he's same kind of thing he thinks pseudo archaeology is all the isms. If you believe in ancient high technology or you believe in Atlantis, you must be a white supremacist, a racist, a misogynist, a con. Let's forget about Atlantis for a minute, but I definitely want to talk about it. But what you're seeing is impossible. It's essentially impossible with today's technology. When you're talking about those stones that were moved 700 miles through the mountains, if you tried to bring some engineers together in the United States in 2024, the best and the brightest, and said, here's your project, they would say, fuck you. You'd need super billionaire money. And even then, I don't know how you would do it. I just don't, I can't conceivably think of a way. And that's what's so interesting about this stuff
Starting point is 00:36:07 is that whatever they did was not just complicated for the time, it was so beyond our imagination of what was possible at the time that it's beyond our imagination of what's possible today. So it just, throws this these facts the physical facts about the size and the location they were brought from that fly in the face of logic and credibility and our understanding of what's possible not just then but today. So for anybody to say oh we've figured this out hey man
Starting point is 00:36:43 fuck you. You definitely have it and the problem is that you have these fucking names attached to you. Harvard and Yale. And you've decided because there's a group of people that have been studying this stuff and they fucking wrote some shit down and you studied what they wrote down and you did your own studying, you got a degree, you're the guy. You're the only one. And it's these same fucking weirdo weasels that put their pronouns in their Twitter bio, and they're just crackpots. They're crackpots masquerading as intellectuals.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Because the things that they're saying are completely bizarre, they're all, 100% of them are captured by this woke ideology. 100% of them. They're weird people, man, because they exist in this structure that's been completely compromised. And that's our education. Our higher education systems have been completely compromised. And this is not to say that they don't teach you amazing stuff about medicine and science. Of course they do. But they are also in a
Starting point is 00:37:40 cult. It is a total cult behavior. And honestly honestly it's their religion. It is a religion because they're mostly atheists. Let me just share this. So with the biggest critics and the naysayers of alternative theories, there's a common denominator. Like when you mention the pronouns in their profile, almost all of them have it and they're not trans. And if you look at their political ideologies, it is extremely left. And these people are visceral, they're toxic. And let me just make a side point that I almost forgot. Is when we're talking about Wikipedia, a lot of people say,
Starting point is 00:38:11 well that's why you don't look at Wikipedia, you don't trust it, who cares about Wikipedia? I'm like, excuse me, it shows up at the top of Google on anything that you search. So it cannot be ignored. And when you're talking a moment ago about the impossibility of the movement of these stones, I want to just emphasize this point one more time, which is that movement of that 340-ton stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one-third the weight of the largest stones in ancient history. And when you look at what it took to do it, so it's like when people, you know, when you're
Starting point is 00:38:39 using the word impossible, it's like, listen, what it took for us to do that, and it was a third of the weight, and he had to custom build this 260 foot long truck with 196 we have internal combustion engines hydraulics have roads that are flat and are better metal far better road experience the roads one reason why they had to go 106 miles is because they had to go around different roads because most roads can support the weight like this is what people look into this like don't listen to Jimmy the YouTuber, like look into the details on yourself and you'll realize like this is completely inexplicable. And it's so important now because we're living at a time where people are starting to realize
Starting point is 00:39:19 that not everything we were taught was true. In fact, a lot of things you see in the mainstream media nowadays have been utterly debunked. It's all propaganda. And... Right, about history. About recent history that's easily proven and the mainstream media will tell false narratives. Absolutely. And so we know that people lie. So we know that people lie and we know that people love to be in a position of authority to be the only people that are allowed to distribute the truth. We know that. Do you want to get provocative real quick? Sure. So nowadays there's a lot of conjecture about the historical accuracy
Starting point is 00:39:54 of different things involving World War II. And Jamie, if you were to go to the Baalbek folder, or in fact go to the folder called Swastika. So this is something that I got tremendous heat for. Whereas that when I went to Baalbek, I noticed that there were swastikas all over the place. And I'm like, well, that's interesting. That's an ancient symbol. What a lot of people are not aware of is that the swastika is prehistoric. It's found on five continents around the world and dates back approximately 10,000 years. It is found in Europe, Africa, Asia,
Starting point is 00:40:25 North, and South America, all before trans-oceanic sea travel was thought to be possible. If you scroll through the images, Jamie, you'll kind of give the audience an understanding. Now let me let me preface this whole conversation with this. Fuck Hitler. Right, of course. He stole the symbol, which was a symbol of peace and he bastardized it So this right here, I took this photo. You'd almost think it's photoshopped in. This is literally this is a photo This is real and I'm like, well, this is fascinating I put this up on Twitter and I said did Hitler know something about ancient history that we don't and the reason why and this was a sincere question
Starting point is 00:41:02 Everyone started called me a Nazi. I was spreading dangerous Nazism for it. No, this is a grown-up conversation. Hitler was a very, he was evil, but he was intelligent, and the Nazis were arguably the most technologically advanced country at that time in World War II. The jet engine, rockets, and for some reason, for reasons that I cannot find a definitive answer on is why was Hitler so in to Archaeology they call it Nazi archaeology and the the mainstream people will say oh, well, it's he weaponized He was trying to get this Aryan thing going to unite people and just create an enemy If I'll kick it to Himmler a lot, they'll say that Himmler was the one that was really into that shit Yeah, so that's by the that's Peru
Starting point is 00:41:51 Like 800 years ago. You'll find the Native Americans the Pima Indians the Navajo the Apache a Hindu temple in Los Angeles that was near my old house Yeah, and we went to visit it You could actually have weddings there and they had to have a sign up explaining why there are so many swastikas on the building I went to swastikas all over it. I went to Japan and it's the same thing there. They have swastikas on different shrines. Okinawan karate, when I was a kid, Okinawan karate, one of their patches was a swastika. And this was when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:42:18 So this is in the 80s when I was studying martial arts. You could get these Okinawan karate patches that had a swastika on it. Had nothing to do with Hitler, it had to do with Japan. Right. Well, it's... Sorry, go ahead. All right, so real quick while Jamie's on this slide, this is from the Hopewell Mound people which is in modern day Ohio, and that dates back 2200 years ago. Jesus Christ, this is from modern day Ohio 2000 years ago?
Starting point is 00:42:43 2200 years ago, and so here's the point that I'm making about the Swassica is that, look, people debate on whether it was the Milky Way galaxy, the Big Dipper, whatever you wanna say its origins were. I do not think that it's a coincidence that a symbol is so specific as it is, is found on five continents around the world before trans-oceanic sea travel was said to be possible.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Cause just to remind the audience, it wasn't until 1492 when Christopher Columbus End of and it's like no this I believe this is strong suggestive evidence that Humans were traversing the continents in the oceans Thousands of years before we were taught in school, which is evidence of being more advanced than we were taught in school Right. Right. Now, what did they think this thing was? Well I have an idea about that. I mean it's not, you know, it's just Dan's idea, but the four directions, the cross that's the root of the swastika, that's pretty commonly used even in
Starting point is 00:43:35 Native American culture as like, you know, cardinal points, right? This is north, south, east, and west. So this could be a symbol for the passage of time. Here's, this sky is turning, the cardinal points turn. Rotation of the earth along with the points of the compass. Exactly, that's what I, but that's just an idea. I mean that doesn't really add a whole lot of context to it as far as, you know, I... Why not just have a cross then?
Starting point is 00:43:59 Up, down, left, right. Isn't it crazy that a geometric pattern is evil? Yeah. Not just a geometric pattern, but a mustache? It's deeply offensive. It's crazy. It is. Like your beard is fine. Nobody has any problems with it. But imagine if you have a wizard beard, you believe in child sacrifice, you piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:44:20 It's crazy. It's very strange what we've done, and obviously that's how horrific Hitler was so here's something people need to understand I want to emphasize this point Hitler people need to look in the details. He was looking for Giants in Africa. They did the they set a mission to look for the Also on meth yeah We go find dinosaurs yeah I'd be looking for giants in African dudes. I'm like, bro, we're gonna go find dinosaurs. Let's fucking go.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I love it. The thing is though, it's like, I have not found an answer on why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant. He was looking for Thor's hammer and the Holy Grail. And the thing is to me, I'm like, I don't, what did, I feel like there's something that they knew about ancient history that we don't.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I don't know if this is true or not, but I want I feel like I can't find a straight answer. And let me tell you this. If you go Googling for answers on Hitler's interest in archaeology, FBI comes knocking at your door. What are you up to, Jimmy? You're going to find the same article. So this is actually kind of explosive. About two years ago, I made a video about Google sabotaging their search results because remember how I'll show you if you Google some topic, it'll say there's like a billion results. So I made a video on this and they would max out at it didn't used to be this way because I remember watching a video years ago of people going thousands
Starting point is 00:45:37 of pages to find some blog spot on some topic. It then became limited. I did experiment myself many times on benign topics such as pancakes was one of them. I typed in pancakes, it had like a billion, like 700 million results. And then it would only go back to page 41 and then it would recycle all those pages before it, the dozens of pages, would recycle some of the same exact mainstream articles. And so I did this on all kinds of topics and now Google has since removed the page numbers And so you can only just go see more see more see more And so if you Google any type of topic and if you're looking for answers on this
Starting point is 00:46:13 They're gonna keep sending you the same regurgitated mainstream articles So I can't find a reliable answer on why Hitler was so invested in ancient history And again, I don't give a shit about his Aryan stuff. Right, why was he into the occult? Why was he in, yeah. I wanna know why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant. Well, obviously, their engineering was insane. I mean, to this, like look,
Starting point is 00:46:37 so many of our best vehicles that we buy today, the most coveted vehicles, came out of Nazi Germany, and originally, Audi, right? Volkswagen, which is Porsche, you know, BMW, The most coveted vehicles came out of Nazi Germany and originally Audi right Volkswagen was just Porsche You know BMW Bavarian Motorworks. I mean all that shit came from the fucking Nazis I mean have you ever seen Hitler's race car? No Hitler had an Audi race car really yeah, man It's worth like a shit ton of money see if you can find Hitler's race car But this was I mean their engineering was superior
Starting point is 00:47:05 This is the reason why we had Operation paperclip so operation paperclip We brought over all of the best knock Nazi rocket scientists the ones that the commoner von Braun Yeah, that's how we got NASA. Yeah, we got NASA essentially from Nazis Yeah, that's his original race cars that fucking crazy But that was basically a V2 that's an Audi right is that is now? What was the Osa Mercedes-Benz? Did he have more than one? I? Believe he had a later one that that's it. That's the one Wow that one had the Audi symbol in the front of it Can you just clarify your pronouns so I know not to be offended that you're interested in this
Starting point is 00:47:44 I'm an American man. We're coming to your town. So look at that photograph. Click on that. Auto Union, I guess that was what Audi's original name was. Isn't that crazy? Look at that car. It's pretty sharp. Pretty fucking dope. I mean imagine in 1939. Oh my god It's probably worth it says it's worth five point five million pounds and illegal to sell on so many markets is that pounds? Yeah, a little sign so many things they would be like oh, that's Hitler's card No, I have you a list on that here, buddy
Starting point is 00:48:17 Well Tom Segura bought Burt Kreischer a cup that apparently was one of Hitler's cups like one that he handled Yeah, really allegedly, but you know how the fuck let's get him in the studio and see this thing We're at Kreischer, a cup that apparently was one of Hitler's cups. Like one that he handled? Yeah. Really? Allegedly, but you know, how the fuck do you know? Let's get him in the studio and see this thing. Yeah, but if you have that, you're a monster. But if you had Genghis Khan's sword, you're fucking cool. Yeah, that's actually an interesting, that's a good comparison.
Starting point is 00:48:37 He killed a lot more people. He killed 10% of the population of Earth. But he did it long enough ago that you don't hear anybody talking about it anymore. He raped so many people that his DNA is in a giant percentage of people Great we've done it before I forget what the numbers are but they're really nutty But the point is is something particularly disgusting to us about that one genocide and it's it's really interesting And you know you you you wonder like how long it's going to take we mean
Starting point is 00:49:06 Dan Carlin has talked about this in depth because he talks about the Mongols and that it's so far in the past you know we're talking about like 1200 AD it's so far in the past that we look at it with almost like an objective perspective instead of a moral perspective. So we say, you know, one thing that Genghis Khan did that was great, he opened up trade to the east and he was a believer of all religions, he could practice anything, he didn't impose anything on people, but he fucking killed everybody. Like if you were alive back then, he's way worse than Hitler.
Starting point is 00:49:40 He killed 10% of the population of Earth. But the Nazis were so recent, you know We have grandfathers that alive today that fought in World War two and they can tell you You know, I fucking remember this shit and then we have Jews like our spheres dad who was in the concentration camps Our spheres dad has a tattoo in his arm. That's wild. Yeah his dad's in his 80s. I believe That recent memory is a big part. I see the other s Thompson stuff on your wall Do you read his book of Hells Angels? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You remember him talking about that aspect of it? Mm-hmm that The the bikers the Hells Angels rocked Nazi memorabilia the guy he asked the guy why why don't you?
Starting point is 00:50:20 He's like because my dad fought the Nazis and he fucking hates this so I wear this because I wear this Just to piss off my dad a lot of that this contrarians But that's that's but my point is is that you know he wouldn't a Genghis Kong symbol wouldn't be doing any good right? Right it's this this has this has an emotional attachment Genghis Kong's mustache would be fine on me right people might laugh at me A little bit, but I don't even know what it looked like yeah, let's see it Don't know what he looks like yeah yeah it's pretty it's the the Nazi thing the the fact that it's so horrific it just like puts any anyone who has anything to say that's coloring outside the lines you get labeled the Holocaust denier and anti-semite, you know, the worst labels that they can put
Starting point is 00:51:06 on you. And a good example of that is that podcast, oh, God, I forget his name, but it was the Tucker Carlson controversy where he had this guy on his podcast and he was talking about what William Churchill's role in the Holocaust was, because they had put these embargoes on Germany and basically starving everybody to death. And they just started calling him a Holocaust denier. And that's like not what he was talking about at all. That's not what he was saying at all. He was just saying, no, there's a multifaceted explanation for why they decided to exterminate all these Jews and part of it was because of an embargo Where they were starving people out? What is his?
Starting point is 00:51:51 Darrell Cooper and what is this podcast called? It's excellent. I listen to it all the time, but my brain is not working right now I just got out of the gym Come on meathead, I know what you're talking. I can't I've drawn a blank on it as well I'm on meathead mode. I know what you're talking about. I can't, I've drawn a blank on it as well. Martyr made? Martyr made, that's right. Martyr made. He's martyr made on Twitter and Instagram. You know, to call that guy an anti-seminar or a Holocaust star is so stupid. He's a brilliant guy and his podcast is excellent.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And he's really sensitive and well balanced and he gives a very comprehensive view of things. It's not in any way Prejudiced it's a great podcast. You're not allowed to color outside the lines Well, yeah, that's all he's he was just saying that Churchill was one of the villains Yeah, and that's very that's that's realistic like the multiple different reasons for that you tighten up their belt They're gonna that's not gonna be passed to the top. That's gonna go straight to the people in the camps. Exactly It's real that's and that's no brainer shit. Right. I even had to see the podcast to put it together.
Starting point is 00:52:46 That's not justifying the murder of all those Jews. That's not what he's doing. Clearly. That's where it's so crazy about stifling discourse. Yeah. Because that was a fascinating conversation, and we should be considering that. Like, wow, that's crazy. There were so many factors, so many horrible things going on altogether.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Well, they say you're supposed to learn from history, but how the fuck are you going to learn from history if you actually take the lessons out of it? This is an important thing here. You think about this right now with the stuff that's in the Middle East in the last 20 years. Every time we put an embargo on there, we're not starving Saddam Hussein, we're starving the people in his freaking prison. So remember that. Dave Smith was talking about that on a podcast recently that during the Clinton administration,
Starting point is 00:53:24 the embargoes starved to death 500,000 children see that's fucked. Yeah, and that's worth remembering and it doesn't if Having that conversation make somebody call you a Holocaust and I are that person should be out of the conversation in my opinion Right and like you were saying academia is chock full of this and they should be ashamed They should be shamed by people who want to know the the whole picture the opposite of knowledge It's it's certainly not condoning Holocaust it's fucking it's so stupid to not be looking at everything The good news is that people are waking up to this a lot of people think just like us where they're objective enough to understand
Starting point is 00:54:01 That like well, that's silly Yeah And so they're putting themselves in a corner in this echo chamber where people just aren't listening to him anymore like when it comes to like mainstream archaeology we call it big archaeology establishment archaeology they're putting themselves into a corner where people like if you're gonna if I'm gonna ask questions about the swastika and you're gonna say I'm spreading dangerous Nazism some people buy into it but I've noticed that most people are like no he's asking a
Starting point is 00:54:22 question we have the internet now we have shows like yours and yours and mine where you can have conversations about things and people get to see, oh, these people that are in control, they're all loons and they're all telling us that you have to think this one way or you're the worst person on earth. And I don't buy it. No, it's a dumb way to look at the world. It's un-American. Sorry to beat the flag for a second. But yeah, I'm proud to be, I live in a country
Starting point is 00:54:47 where I can have somebody with their pronouns in their fucking bio and somebody not with their pronoun, we can both yell at each other and not have us end up in jail over it. It's also this position that people have when they're teachers, when they're educators, and they have this position, you know, and I can speak to it a little bit from martial arts
Starting point is 00:55:05 because in martial arts, when I first started doing martial arts, it was in the 1980s. In the 1980s, every discipline believed they had the very best discipline. All the judo people thought judo was the only martial art you needed to know. All the karate people thought karate was it. Taekwondo people, where I came from, they karate was it taekwondo people where I came from They all believed in taekwondo and it took UFC the UFC to slam everything together and go oh Jesus Fucking useless. Yep, and you know, and some of it's not useless, right?
Starting point is 00:55:37 There was some things from like John Jones won the UFC heavyweight title this past weekend with a taekwondo kick. It's amazing Yeah, that was unbelievable I'm so happy because that was my thing. So me watching him do that was like yes Why are more people doing this like you guys should have been doing this from the beginning? It's the most powerful kick in the sport but this the you were in trouble if you trained in other disciplines like Bruce Lee was a heretic and He's probably one of the most important figures in martial arts Not just because he induced introduced people to it like myself who became
Starting point is 00:56:10 Martial artists because I was a Bruce Lee fan. He also Combined all kinds of different martial arts and that was deep Jeet Kune Do He developed a style that was essentially he took Western boxing He took some judo that he learned and karate and all these different techniques and just tried to find what is the absolute best thing for just fighting and that was he was a heretic like he was his life was threatened for that and it's because the educators want to be the only people that can distribute information and they don't want to be challenged. When I was in high school, I had a teacher, his name was Mr. Holman, he was a very nice guy, but he was a
Starting point is 00:56:48 smart guy that wanted to be the only smart guy. And he was great talking to me because I was a stupid kid, but unfortunately one day I had watched documentary and I have I've always had a very good ability to recall things and we were we were in class and he was talking about the pollution in Lake Erie and I had just watched a documentary about the extensive work that they had done to clean up Lake Erie and that they had made these huge strides in removing pollution and crap and all these different things from Lake Erie and he was talking about
Starting point is 00:57:23 pollution and crap and all these different things from Lake Erie and he was talking about stuff that he had learned in school 20 years prior and so when I was I said well you know there's a PBS documentary and I brought this up in class where there's been this extensive work and they talked about the amazing accomplishments of cleaning up Lake Erie and he got so mad at me I'm like you're not mad at me man you're mad at PBS like I don't fucking do any research I watched the documentary but back then you could say you don't know what you're talking about and I couldn't pull my phone out and go Oh, but what look at that right? You can watch it dude like these people have done an amazing work cleaning up Lake Erie
Starting point is 00:57:58 But he didn't want anyone else to have any information other what he should have said is that's fascinating I haven't seen that documentary can you do documentary. Can you recall the name of it? Let's see if we can get it, maybe show it to the class. I'm going to try to do that because that's great. That's a good sign. What I'm talking about is what Lake Erie had become because of industrial engineering and because of pollution and waste that was coming from all these plants. So he was true. He was correct. But time had changed. And he did not like that I knew that.
Starting point is 00:58:29 And he didn't know that. And I remember being in that class going, this is so crazy. This is my fucking science teacher. My science teacher doesn't want details. He doesn't want facts. This happened to me. So I was in the military years ago. And it wasn't long after I got home from Iraq.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And I was going to warrior leadership course, which is to become an E5 a sergeant. And back then they were teaching ABC, which is airway bleeding. What was the other one circulation, whatever, and for emergency medical response if someone's dying. And they had since updated where bleeding is the most important thing to focus on because soldiers were bleeding out. And during this worship warrior leadership course, they're teaching the core, the class. 30 people, wrong information that has since outdated. I try to interject to say, oh, this is what they're teaching now. It was the same exact thing that happened. He didn't stop,
Starting point is 00:59:14 you know, this is what this is what's written down right here. I'm like, no, but that's not even what they're teaching in theater right now. Like I'm trying to, this is, this is medical emergency stuff that could save someone's life. And he didn't want to hear it one bit. I couldn't believe it. I was astonished. He should have said that's interesting I did not know that we need to update what we're showing you these three factors are the same But now we know thank you Jimmy now We know that bleeding is more primary that should be the that's the response of a real leader, right? And they're a real leader you look this you're always gonna have blowhards in your class
Starting point is 00:59:44 They're gonna want to hear their own voice they want to talk about stuff and chime in and correct people and But you got to let a certain amount of that and that's the Internet and people don't like that And that's why they wanted to ban people from Twitter They don't like these people coming along that have ideas that like the Great Barrington Declaration where they you know the government actually like the Great Barrington Declaration, where the government actually conspired to get these people removed from Twitter. And we know that because Elon, thank God, bought Twitter and changed his course.
Starting point is 01:00:12 But this was a concerted effort to take these people who were brilliant people, who had degrees, were experts in this field that they were discussing and they decided they were going to remove them because they didn't go along with the narrative and they were confusing people in a time where they were trying to force vaccinations on everyone. Right. The emotion side of it from the individual levels like what you guys described, you have a teacher, the emotional reaction, that's a huge part of it. But when the, that's a huge part of it, especially with archeology,
Starting point is 01:00:46 because a lot of it's not really hard science. A lot of it's like, I've got this arrowhead here and I've conjured up this story, and so now it's my story and you're not attacking the science, you're attacking me. But it gets even worse when you look at it, what they get like this hate for Graham Hancock, in particular, Graham Hancock. That makes it where it's like, you can't trust a damn word that
Starting point is 01:01:05 comes out of their mouth when they're discussing. Like if we were talking back to the martial arts, you know one of the things that came out was a keto was just ass. It's no good at all for like man-to-man combat. It's what was it for like samurais that have been knocked off a horse or some shit? Well it was designed to redistribute the energy of your attacker. Okay. So if someone's coming at you with a sword, if you don't have a sword and a guy swings a sword and you're fast enough To get away from the path of the sword and grab the guy's arm or body and manipulate him to the ground to remove His sword. It's essentially a disarming. Okay, so it's not the best
Starting point is 01:01:41 Work against a wrestler Okay, so it's not the best work against a wrestler Way better and now wrestling is the if you want to find out the best way to take a person to the ground and control We 100% know it's wrestling Yeah, you just grab the most ancient sport in the world that dates back to the Samarians and by the way wrestling in wrestling I include judo. I include different forms of jiu-jitsu that were ancient because these allowed people to manipulate limbs and to control joints which allowed them also to take people down and submit them.
Starting point is 01:02:12 But the point is, you had a bunch of people believing that this one goofy-ass martial art was the end-all be-all because of a good Steven Seagal movie. Exactly. Now, my point was there is it's like you're considered pretty much an expert in martial was the end all be all because of a good Steven Seagal movie. Exactly. No, no. My point was there is it's like you're you're considered pretty much an expert in martial arts. You're not not like you're a professional announcer for UFC. You know your shit.
Starting point is 01:02:33 So if I watched you say Steven Seagal, you know, his martial arts, it's fucking a keto man. I don't know what to tell you. But I would not do that. I would tell you Steven Seagal was really good. Yeah, really good at Aikido. But if you were if you if you hated Stephen Seagal, if you were one of his many haters, you could just attack Aikido without ever saying his name and just be digging him a ditch right? You could just be burying him without ever mentioning Stephen Seagal's name.
Starting point is 01:02:58 You could just attack Aikido. Aikido is a shit martial art. It's not effective. It's not very good. And then by extension, you're making Steven Seagal look bad and this is one of their favorite tactics to do to Hancock They will attack this idea is racist. It's inherently bullshit. You don't have to mention Hancock's names Oh, it's just they just grew the two they're so insidious this way Yeah, and they connect the connecting Hancock to white supremacy and aliens the dumbest one Is it first of all he never said nothing about aliens and not only that not only does He not think of it as white people built this stuff. He thinks it's the people that live there But they live there a long-ass time ago. It's the same fucking people. It's Africans
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah, whoever built the pyramids they were Africans like I'm an American Yeah, let me just remind the audience. That's where they live. Egypt is an Africa. Yeah, in case you're wondering. Yeah, that is Northern Africa, and it's the most sophisticated construction we have ever witnessed on the face of the earth. Anybody that disagrees, you need to really study what they accomplished just in the Great Pyramid.
Starting point is 01:04:01 It's mind boggling precision. It's not just the incredible feat of moving massive stones hundreds of miles through the mountains. It's the mind-boggling precision of the construction of these buildings that it's so crazy. It's almost like they made it so nutty that even if everything dissolved and expired, it would give us at least some clue that maybe something happened. Maybe people had achieved a level of sophistication. And my thought is, and this is just a guess, is that as we move towards metal and we move towards using different kinds of combustion engines and electronics.
Starting point is 01:04:46 We moved in a very specific area of technology, and we were allowed to do this because things have been relatively peaceful for a couple hundred years. Relatively peaceful. And also, there's war in other places, so it allowed us to spend our time here devising ways to fuck up people over there. That's the Manhattan Project, right? But if you have a completely different avenue that thinking goes in and innovation goes in and instead of combustion engines and electronics, you have something that we haven't even considered.
Starting point is 01:05:24 And that to me seems like what Egypt is. It seems to me that they have this incredibly fertile area. So for people who look at Egypt now, you're looking at all the sand and all the shit, that is not what it looked like. In the thousands of years before the construction of the pyramid, it was a rainforest and it was fertile. And so my thought is these people probably had plenty of food. And so they didn't have to go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And so they weren't attacked that often. The Nubians conquered them, and that's when the statues started changing, looking more southern African. But you have these people that live in this incredibly resource-rich place, and they were able to spend thousands of years there. And I think in those thousands of years, they devised methods that we still haven't even considered because we went in a different path.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And we can't consider any other paths. We consider our path, and we say, well, we're the furthest. We live today. OK, so those fuckers in the past, they're basically cave people, right? That's how we look at it. Yeah, they're looking like dumb people playing the stones. Oh, they were silly Yeah, they use stones because they weren't smart enough to use metal. It's like when you look at the details of stone
Starting point is 01:06:31 It's like you could say it's more impressive Well, we wanted to talk about go back Lee teppi and go back Lee teppi is not just fascinating in its construction But also in the timeline because the timeline fucked everything up I remember when Graham Hancock and Zowie Hawass were having that big debate with that other guy who's an archaeologist, the American guy's very smug, but he's like, what evidence do you have of a civilization that lived 10,000 years ago? Well you have one now, so you have to shut the fuck up because you were wrong. So in the 1990s a sheep herder finds this stone, he starts kicking it and moving it around, he realizes, wow this
Starting point is 01:07:04 is a big-ass stone, I probably bring in some smart dudes to figure this out, and they start digging, and they go, oh Jesus, this is these huge circles of giant stone columns with 3D carved animals on them at a time that we thought people were living in teepees, right? We thought people had stone tools, we didn't think there was any metal. We thought it had to tools. We didn't think there was any metal. We thought it had to be done the opposite way around. We thought you needed to be a hunter-gatherer or a farmer and then you could build. And now they had to flip that entire shit on its ear. Well, actually, maybe. I think they only flip that shit on its ear to try to make it
Starting point is 01:07:38 look like they were right about the timeline of hunter-gatherers. I completely agree. And to ignore the possibility of an ancient civilization before Mesopotamia Completely agree because it's the only thing that makes sense. There's no way when you're just struggling to find food Okay, and if you ever gone on a fishing trip or a hunting trip, it's fucking hard to get food when we have modern stuff it's hard to get food with a rifle right so these people were getting food and They somehow or another in between them while like running around trying to shoot rabbits with a bow and arrow they figured out how to make these massive stone columns and put them in position and move them in circles and hundreds of them. Pretty great artists too doing some relief carvings. I mean that's not the same as just carving in.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Not really that but animals that were local to my area It's just like what how do you even fucking know? This is a thing? What is this? So go Beckley Tepe brother if there is such a thing as an ancient conspiracy theory It's it's this so I remember hearing Graham Hancock come on your show back in like 2015 or 2017 And he was talking about go Beckley Tepe. And at that time he had shared that the site was only approximately 5% excavated. It's the first video on my channel. It's like August 2017 and I shared the details of it. These pillars dates back 11,600 years. It appears to be purposely buried at
Starting point is 01:09:02 the same time of the Young, driest climate catastrophe. This is fascinating. And you know, excavations were continuing. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to backburn this topic of Gobekli Tepe for a little while, let them further their excavations, and I'll revisit this later when there's something new to share. So earlier this summer, I'm like, all right, let me let me revisit Gobekli Tepe and see what's new there.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And I was astonished to learn that that 5% figure was still the same. Have you heard this? Yeah, I've watched your videos on it. YouTube channel Bright Insight, subscribe. Undeniably strange. Your videos are undeniably strange. So here's some images where you could see what it kind of looks like along with this globalheritagefund.org story on it. So here's some images where you could see what it kind of looks like along with this global heritage fund
Starting point is 01:09:46 Org story on it. So so it sells 5% right and that figure is still the same as of 2023 I had part one There's a lady who does tours there and corroborate the 5% figure and then there's a gentleman named Hugh Newman Who's an author and also leads tours and he communicated with me that what they were going to do, and I couldn't believe this, they're going to defer a full-scale excavation for quote future generations with a 150 year estimated time frame for a full excavation of Quebec-Litepe. And I'm like, wait a second, are you serious? Like this makes no sense. We're talking about arguably not just the world's oldest ancient site,
Starting point is 01:10:26 but arguably the most mysterious, because it's like you were just saying, it's not supposed to exist. Based on everything we're taught in school, it's supposed to be the Sumerians. And then you have the site of Gobekli Tepe, made up of sophisticated pillars and concentric circles. At least 5,000 years older.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah, that older than, almost 7,000 years older than Stonehenge. And Stonehenge is a mystery of itself. So I start looking in, I start Googling and looking into the details. I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. How could there possibly be, how could they defer excavations for future generations
Starting point is 01:10:55 when this may be the most important ancient site on earth involving our lost, our mysterious lost ancient past? And so I started digging into this and I couldn't believe what I found so They were doing large-scale excavations, but that has since ceased just to clarify They are still excavating gobekli tepe but they have rolled and dialed back the large-scale excavations of the years prior and they are focusing on conservation and tourism management of the site and
Starting point is 01:11:22 Like I said with a hundred and fifty year time frame and I'm like wait a second I can't and I have all the screenshots in that folder. Because of funding? Absolutely not. So not only have they never claimed that it's related to funding but this is where things get bizarre is that there's a Turkish conglomerate called the Doge's Group which consists of 250 companies within Turkey. It's a billion dollar industry, and they're the ones that took over management and funding of the site back in 2017. And they announced this at all places, the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos in 2016 is when they announced this partnership, initial funding of $15 million. At that time, they set up the infrastructure for tourism,
Starting point is 01:12:05 million dollars at the time they set up the infrastructure for tourism. Roads, sidewalks, walkways, roofing platforms, and since then is when they dialed back the excavations. And I'm like this makes absolutely no sense. So it has, let me just be crystal clear here, it has nothing to do with funding and they've never claimed it has anything to do with funding. But their excuses, they have said, one of which is that, well, we want to wait for future technologies to develop so we can more safely excavate the site. And I'm like, wait a second, hold on a second. We're talking about pillars buried in dirt. It's 2024. Do not tell me that we do not have the technological capability to dig rocks up.
Starting point is 01:12:44 What would be an alternative explanation? So okay this is where things get fun. Oh boy. So let me say a couple things before I get into it. One of which is that them saying that they're waiting for a future technology to develop to safely excavate the site, I'm like, what type of magical shovel or pressure, water hose are we talking about here? Some vacuum with dirt vacuum. And since they're saying that they're continuing
Starting point is 01:13:16 to excavate the site today, since they're saying to continue to excavate the site today, I'm like, well, which is it? Are you saying that you're doing so in unsafe methods? And I already know that's not the answer because there's been no issue with destructvate the site today, I'm like, well, which is it? Are you saying that you're doing so in unsafe methods? And I already know that's not the answer because there's been no issue with destructing the site from digging it up. It's not like they broke a pillar and like, oh dang,
Starting point is 01:13:33 wait a second, we need to walk this back. We're not doing things safely. That's not the case here. So there are a few explanations here. Okay, that's what I wanna hear. So one of which is that I, the most logical explanation, this is the less conspiratorial one, which is that it has to do with money. You have this Turkish conglomerate of people that are saturated with members of the World
Starting point is 01:13:54 Economic Forum, for example the CEO of the Doge's Group is a longtime member of the World Economic Forum, that may backburn the World Economic Forum for a half a second. They're business people. They took over the site and it's all about money now. Back in 2019, GoBekliTappi had approximately 19,000 visitors yearly. Now it's at a half a million. Their focus, if nothing else, they're just trying to bring revenue in. It's all about money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:21 They don't care about ex-uven and the rest of the site. If they spend 15 more million, it's not going gonna bring 15 more million in revenue right and and they just want their money back okay but I'm like well this is that makes sense it does make sense that's the way you know that real quick and also the mystery plays is that side is probably the second most popular place in the planet with people like ourselves and the more mystery is there the more money it's the more like you know we did in mystery. So if there's if they excavate everything and we know everything there is about that site and it's all super
Starting point is 01:14:49 mundane and there's nothing cool about it anymore that that tit dries up and there's no milk coming out. How could it ever stop being cool? I agree. It doesn't make any sense. I agree with that but that one doesn't make any sense. That's a Zahi Hawass kind of thing. He's of the same opinion where I think a lot of the same things Excuse me happen in Egypt for the same reasons. Zahi Hawass is quoted was saying that Those New Age people it doesn't matter what happens in Egypt the New Age people they come it's about tourism You know ever since the Arab Spring tourism in Egypt's been lower so I think a lot of the same like that we're gonna talk in a minute about the Hidden chamber in the pyramid that they've located and still haven't excavated for whatever fucking reason
Starting point is 01:15:24 I think that might be part of it if you want to get super mundane and not conspiratorial. It's just a simple The tourists keep coming while there's a mystery there as soon as we open that up. It's just an empty empty chamber I mean, so I don't think I don't buy that neither the mystery of the structures themselves that we have completely excavated It's just so fascinating. So let me be clear on go back Lee Tepe. It's summer between five and ten percent excavated is just so fascinating. So let me be clear on Gobekli Tepe. It's somewhere between 5 and 10 percent excavated. Which means that- So here it says some archaeological sites that were only 10 percent or less have been uncovered.
Starting point is 01:15:55 None of which date back anywhere near remotely as old as Gobekli Tepe. And so just to put this into perspective, Gobekli Tepe, according to ground penetrating radar consists of approximately 200 T-shaped pillars. Only 72 of them have been on Earth. And as of just a few years ago, they're dialing that back to fully excavate them, which again, the 150-year timeframe. And I'm like, this is entirely unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:16:18 It is, there could be hidden answers about our lost ancient past waiting to be discovered on these pillars, because all the pillars are trying to tell us some sort Of story they all have depictions animals all kinds of things on there's the shaman with the bag right which is very interesting right We've seen that from the Sumerians. We've seen in South America the bag thing is very fascinating. It is it's hotly debated It was yeah, I'm sure I don't I mean you could say maybe it's a tool bag you could say maybe it's psychedelics He's gotten that bag. You know academics say it says water the water. It's a water bucket You guys know you with there you go in sweatman excuse me you guys for me with the work of Martin sweat
Starting point is 01:16:54 Yeah, no, I'm not he's the one that he was on ancient apocalypse season one for a minute. He's the guy who's the Made basically a star map of go that pillar 43 and in his opinion those three handbags at the top were three sunrises and if that's the case that would almost make sense because then they're like a picture of an Assyrian holding that would be like a holding of astronomical knowledge like this this symbol could have been a symbol of knowledge of astronomy which is one thing honestly about Gobekli- Could have been a book bag. Could have been a book bag. Right? I mean it kind of makes sense. They probably had a travel around with their books
Starting point is 01:17:28 So here's the thing that pillar that's just one pillar of 200 and here we are debating We don't even know what it is. It's all conjecture So this go back Lee Tepe situation is far more Bizarre than then we've described so far. I think the logical explanation though is that you have massive tourist revenue coming to see it as is why spend more money and excavate these things. I think that's the most the pillar. I think that's the most logical explanation but it could be more insidious than that because... So that's one pillar. That's just that's pillar 43
Starting point is 01:18:03 the most debated one of them all and there's approximately 128 more pillars that are still buried in the earth. What's that bird doing holding the earth? Dr. Martin Dr. Martin Swetman his first paper on go Beckley teppes pillar 43. He's got Scorpio in the bottom He believes that Sagittarius that that's the Sun and if that that's one Basically, it's a star map denoting the time that the comet smacked the earth is what he believes. Each one of those V's, his latest paper on it, each one of those V symbols is a day, each one of, in his opinion, each one of those boxes is a month, and there is
Starting point is 01:18:39 basically a full year denoting the whole thing, the way he's broke, does very interesting stuff. And one of the things that's broke. He does very interesting stuff. And one of the things that's wild to me, when we talk about like the lack of further excavations is almost every pillar we bring up has new, new symbology, new symbols, new iconography. If we're trying to find some sort of ancient proto-language or something, we're going to, we need more symbols. We need more things on earth.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Sure. Yeah. And that's completely opposed by the mainstream Archaeology the idea that these guys had any sort of written language is fucking ridiculous But what are the theories involved in you know? I know it's been theorized that it was purposely covered in the dirt It really looks like it if you look at pictures of the excavation It looks like it was all piled in with stones and dirt because if it was some sort of natural event
Starting point is 01:19:25 It would have destroyed the call that the pillars the pillars are are preserved So it wasn't just blown in with dust if you look at its gravel and like as Graham Hancock has explained That Klaus Schmidt the original excavator of the site before is untimely passing in 2014 It the people that have worked the site believe it was intentionally buried that is debated in the in academia today but isn't there also carbon isotope dating of the ground soil that shows it's the same age throughout the entire whatever feet it is of the dress it's going it and so it's very apparent that it was purposely buried and what's interesting about that is that it coincides exactly with the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. So if you want an alternative idea on, so okay.
Starting point is 01:20:07 We could talk- Could it be mudslides? No, because it would destroy those pillars. And knock them over at least. Yeah, that's, I've seen that in Iraq with the statues. So we'll share, let's talk about this in a second. This is, so this is where things get wild. So that means-
Starting point is 01:20:22 Before the excavation, this is an aerial photo from what years is that should be 2004 or exit no excuse me that before 1994 they started excavations in 1994 1995 so that is when it was just dirt correct everybody thought it was just a regular hillside which is makes you wonder how many more there well they're finding dozens of other sites around Turkey oh yeah even older place and even older yes so let me tell you a few How many more there? Well, they're finding dozens of other sites around Turkey. Oh yeah, all over the place. And even older.
Starting point is 01:20:47 So let me tell you a few different things about Gobekli Tepe. When you bring up pictures of the pillars, notice how they all annotate animals on them. Now this is a fun topic, and I have a few other things to share. One of which is that if you wanna talk about reasons not to excavate it, I'll give you two possibilities.
Starting point is 01:21:04 And this is just conjecture. I don't know what the answer is. Let me say this upfront. But part of it could have a religious implication, as well as a climate change implication. Let me start with that. So we know it is an established fact that the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe happened
Starting point is 01:21:19 between 12,800 and 11,600 years ago. We know that there was vast changes in weather patterns throughout the Northern Hemisphere, the only part of it that's debated, as well as near extinction events or extinction events of many different mammals in North America. But what we know is that something happened, whatever it is, is what's debated, whether it's a cosmic impact, whether it's a pole shift, whether it's sun cycles, all kinds of conjecture all the way around. But when I mentioned the WEF, they are the biggest proponents of the man-made climate change
Starting point is 01:21:52 narrative. They're the ones that want to get rid of gas-powered stoves, they want us to get rid of vehicles, they are pushing their initiatives around the world and they believe that we're destroying the planet. I'm not saying they're entirely wrong, but I don't agree with their ways of going about it, but that's a side point. But here's the thing. When you look at the legend of Noah's flood and Noah's arc, or excuse me, Noah's arc and the flood. So I'm not suggesting that there was a flood that covered every mountain on Earth, and nor am I suggesting that there was a boat that housed every species of animal on earth. However, if Noah's ark existed, many believe that it was crashed onto Mount Ararat, which is also in Turkey.
Starting point is 01:22:32 And something fascinating is that in the Bible, in Genesis 820, some of the first verses after Noah emerged from the flood, is that he was said to have constructed an altar to the Lord where he sacrificed some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird." Gobekli Tepe is in Turkey, and every single one of those pillars annotates animals, and some have suggested that it could be Noah's altar. Now, that could be one reason why they wouldn't want to excavate it, is because Turkey is an Islamic country, and if there were some Christian religious belief that was corroborated, they might not want that to happen. Another possibility is that the site itself might corroborate the Younger Dry East climate catastrophe. And when we're in a time frame
Starting point is 01:23:17 where they don't like talking academics, they don't like talking about cataclysms, they want to pretend they didn't happen, want everything to be man-made climate change They don't ever talk about the Sahara being green five thousand years ago Like when you're talking about Egypt being a rainforest they find whale bones in this. Oh, no, Joe Those are 30 million years old. So stop talking about You know, no, it's amazing when you think about yeah and so As far as the climate change narrative,
Starting point is 01:23:46 there could be a possibility that they don't want the evidence of a prehistoric civilization that was more advanced than what we ever thought to believe that might corroborate some Christian narratives, and if nothing else, they don't want it to be brought into the discussion of modern-day climate change. Because notice on the topic of climate change, they never mentioned natural stuff. They don't discuss the Milankovitch cycles, which consists of three variables. One of which is the earth's procession. The other is the earth's tilt. And the other is the distance from the earth, from the sun.
Starting point is 01:24:17 All three of those variables are constantly changing every single day, although immeasurable day by day. They happen over tens of thousands of years. But each individual of those variables impact climate on Earth. For example, when it talk about the green Sahara, they believe the most likely reason has to do with Earth's processional cycle. I'm like, well, wait a second, where's this in the conversation of modern day climate change? If we're talking about us destroying the planet, I would just like an answer as far as where these three variables are in the conversation. Did you see the Washington Post's very inconvenient data that they published about the temperature of Earth? No, please
Starting point is 01:24:53 tell me. Did you find the Washington Post climate study? They found that we're in a massive cooling period. If you go back, you know, X amount of hundred thousand years and you look at like what's happening to you Yeah, it goes in cycles, but that's what it looks like now, right? So there's climate over the last 485 million years. Look at the the dip we're in then look how it's never static It's down and up and down and up and down and up all throughout the history of the earth, which is measurable It's not to say that we don't have an impact on it. We know that's a pretty sharp pretty sharp increase there But here's here's the thing even if we didn't but there's sharp increases
Starting point is 01:25:31 There's a couple other ones look at those other ones. Look at you know look at 390 million years ago That was all a giant peak. That's fucking crazy. That's straight up and down. Yep. It's always happened It's not like it's static and then industrial engineering comes along and then you see this big increase, oh boy what are we doing to the earth? No, it's like even if we didn't do anything we have no control over the temperature of the earth. And what's really terrifying, Randall Carlson talks about this all time, is global cooling. That's what's really terrifying. When global warming happens, oh no, you gotta move out of Malibu.
Starting point is 01:26:07 You gonna be okay? You gotta move to the places where it used to be cold and now it's warm because humans have always been nomadic. That's the whole reason why we're not in Africa anymore. But global cooling will fucking kill us all. Right, so global cooling will kill everything. And we came, Randall talks about this, that we came very close at one point in human history We came very close to losing a little ice age that's required to literally keep life
Starting point is 01:26:32 Yeah, Jamie, we bring up my ice age or ice folder So I have an update for you from the last time I was on your podcast Go over to the graphs should be one of the first slides in it that one go right hang out right there for a second So when I was on your show last time Joe I discussed I said something very specific where I said I think that this is with my exact words I think the data might indicate that cold is more often than it's hot and do you know what happened after that I was gonna send this to you but I held off because you've seen enough hit pieces so there was a hit piece done on me by
Starting point is 01:27:06 Media Matters, which was funded by George Soros, and their networking of Vox and other, they did this hit piece on me to say that Jimmy Kors said he was on Jero Rogan spreading climate change denial and inaccurate information. The only thing, if you could bring that back up Jimmy, please, the only thing that I said wrong is that I said the data might indicate that the earth is cold more often than hot. Excuse me, no. The data absolutely, definitively shows that earth is cold more often than it's hot. And what you're looking at here is straight out of the Utah Geological Survey.
Starting point is 01:27:36 It's prestigious. It's found at the top of Google. And what you're looking at here is data from the last 450,000 years corroborated from data taken from ice core samples from Antarctica as well as Greenland. And what it shows is that not only are we in the middle of a three million year old ice age, there's something called glacials and inner glacials. glacials are where it's cold and the glaciers grow interglacials are where things warm and glaciers recede. What
Starting point is 01:28:01 you're seeing here is for arguably five interglacial periods over just the last 450,000 years. So never mind and glaciers recede. What you're seeing here is four, arguably five interglacial periods over just the last 450,000 years. So nevermind hundreds of millions of years ago. What it shows is that the periods of cooling last seven to nine times longer than interglacials, which are periods of warming. And here's the fun part.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Interglacials last anywhere from 10 to 30,000 years, and our warming started 11,600 years ago, which means that we're already in the window for potential catastrophe for things to start cooling again. So when I was on your show last time, and I was mentioning Elon Musk talking about ice ages being a deep, deep rabbit hole, do you remember that? He was talking about it. Well, I know what he's talking about. It's this. It means that we're already in the window where things could start cooling again. And when it does does we're in a lot of trouble I think and I can't speak on his behalf I would God I got to tell you next
Starting point is 01:28:51 Could you just text him and ask him if he thinks it's related to pole shifts? I need to tighten up my study on this because I'm like I think because let me tell you something Let me share something right now that you've never heard on this show before you hear everyone talking about cosmic impact hypothesis You're people talking about cosmic impact hypothesis. You hear people talking about sun cycles. Not a lot of people have been on here talking about pole shifts. Let me give a quick shout out to Ben Davidson
Starting point is 01:29:12 of Suspicious Observers. I recommend maybe you link up with him. Nobody has researched the topic of pole shifts and sun cycles as much as him. And he brought something to my attention I had never heard before. Jamie, the very first slide that you showed was of the Gothenburg Excursion. So there was a
Starting point is 01:29:27 partial pole flip right in the middle. See how it dates between 13,007 and 12,003? So the Younger Dryas started 12,800 years ago, and it's right in the middle of that ballpark range. We already know it is established science that when geomanetic pole excursions happen, it changes weather patterns on Earth, as well as the ocean current. Jamie, if you want to Google, there's a space.com article titled that in 2025, some scientists are suggesting that the Earth's ocean currents may stop. Have you heard this? No. Okay. In
Starting point is 01:30:04 nowhere in the articles do they mention anything about pole excursion. So people need to understand that we're already in the middle of a of a pole excursion which is a partial pole flip which means that things are shifting inside the earth. It's also known that that can cause changes in ocean current. Now most mainstream articles, let me just be fair and tell you what they'll say, they'll say that oh no it's related to man-made climate change. We're changing the currents of the ocean. I don't believe that. But, yeah, don't allow them to let them take your data. Look at this. Nowhere in this article
Starting point is 01:30:34 do explain why. But here's the thing. People need to understand that the number one thing that affects weather on Earth is, of course, the Sun. The second thing is ocean currents. It's the reason why England is relatively temperate. Go back to that, Jamie. It's the reason why England is relatively temperate is because the Gulf Stream flows up there and it keeps it relatively warm and compares to... The way it says it here, key Atlantic current could collapse soon, impacting the entire
Starting point is 01:31:02 world for centuries to come, leading climate scientists warned. So just by saying climate scientists, you're already implying at least this is the result of climate change. Right. That's what they... Which further fuels this agenda that man-made climate change is the cause of all of our woes.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Right. Which is a narrative that you're consistently hearing. And again, to be real clear to someone who's going to say something about this, this is not to dismiss pollution. This is not to dismiss our impact on the atmosphere of the earth and what we're doing with coal plants and all the bullshit that we're doing. For sure, we're doing bad things. Also, if we weren't, we have no control over this thing.
Starting point is 01:31:42 This thing is constantly moving. And both of those things need to be looked at at the same time. The problem is this whole narrative of climate science has been adopted by these same fucking people that want Twitter pronouns. It's the same people, it's the same sort of thing. And if you have anything to say about it, if you want to talk about a swastika being an ancient symbol, now you're a Nazi. If you deny your climate denier, you're a vaccine denier, you're a this or that, you're a Holocaust denier. It's like the same kind of
Starting point is 01:32:11 stupid shit. And unfortunately with this one, this one is uniquely tied to money. This one is uniquely tied to green agendas and the enormous amount of funding that is going towards these green agendas and people that are profiting off of spreading this narrative. These philanthropo-capitalists that are making hundreds of millions of dollars promoting this idea of climate change being our primary problem. And if you deny it, you're a science denier. And the reason why you shouldn't listen to these people is because they're leaving out the key data involving Earth's historical climate data. They're not including all these other details. And so I think people need
Starting point is 01:32:58 to look at pole shifts because it's very interesting in this alternative realm that you have people that are proponents of the of the cosmic impact hypothesis, you have Dr. Robert Schock with the sun cycles, you have other people talking about pole shifts. I think people should consider that all the above are correct. And let me explain why. When pole shifts happen, Earth's shields are diminished, we're in the middle of a pole shift right now. The Earth's shields are diminishing and it's been happening since the 1800s. It's been accelerating over the last few decades. This is scientific data. The North Pole is shifting at like almost 40 miles a year when it was half that just a decade ago.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And when the Earth's shields diminish, we are more susceptible to cosmic impacts because lesser... 20 miles a year? Google it. this is real Wow it's happening no idea thought it was feed a year now the mainstream will say don't worry it's still another thousand years away and like they actually can't prove that because we've never we've never been we haven't been alive to document a pole shift but what
Starting point is 01:33:56 I'm trying to say is that we should consider the pole shift thing brother ask Elon Musk his thoughts on this sometime when they actually just tweeted something about it recently what do you say he tweeted something about the magnetic poles. Oh my god. Yeah, he tweeted something about I think he actually retreated the core of the earth. What's his face? I forget his name, but you were just and Davidson and Davidson. I'm pretty sure he retweeted Ben David
Starting point is 01:34:18 We need to find out out if that's the case because here's the thing tweet so much though. It takes so long I know there's weeds. I don't know. He doesn't too much It's less effective because I'm like I miss stuff and and I follow him closely actually Which a vast ball molten rock Earth's core which generates most of our magnetic field is 85% iron and moves independently from the surface plates, which is why the magnetic pole changes position. I Love Brian Ramelli. I love Brian Romeli. If I'm saying his name right, we follow each other. He's a great guy.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I think Elon Musk is giving a hint here because you remember how the Northern Lights were visible as far south as Mexico in the last few months? That was from solar activity, right? Right, but the reason why it's more visible now is because the Earth's shields are diminishing. This is, I'm not making, this isn't like from Bob's website. This is, this is, this is mainstream science.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Again, Ben Davison has taught me a lot on this and he was actually on with Alex Jones not long ago and he really blew Alex Jones' mind. He vetted him and so what I'm trying to say here is that like, this is not being brought into the equation of manmade climate change at all. Well, because of all the things we were talking about, the educators want to be the only ones to distribute the information and they don't want to look at the full picture. They only want to look at this one thing for the greater good of all of us. It's better if you just get people to only focus on getting an electric car.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Right. Well, like I've never, I've always, ever since I started doing this stuff, I've had people that are like, hey man, you fact check scientists, we want you in the climate change debate. And I've always had the opinion of like, look, I'm talking about big old rocks and moving, zero sum, there's zero skin in the game. And if I'm wrong about that, nothing changes. But if I'm wrong about climate change and I get a bunch of people, I feel a little like it's, It's not your area of expertise.
Starting point is 01:36:00 It's not my area of expertise and there's too much skin in the game. But when I did the debunking of Flint Dibble's debunking of Graham, the part about the metallurgy, I spoke with an ice core specialist. And now there ain't but a handful of these dudes on the planet, literally just a handful of people. That was a very important part of your debunking. Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:36:18 You're the guy that blew the roof on that. You're the guy that contacted firsthand. Well, let's just explain what you did. Well, I spent an hour on a Zoom chat with a dude because what Flint had said was that there was no proof of metallurgy in the ice age. And well, of course there's no proof of it, but he said that we can prove definitively
Starting point is 01:36:34 there was no metallurgy. And that's where it's like, well, no, because they look for levels of lead and levels of lead, that graph you just showed with the interglacial periods, lead follows that because when there's more dust on the ground, the reason they believe is there more dust on the ground, more gets kicked up, more ends up in the glaciers. But that's the same dirt that would be kicked up if they were digging for iron, right? So either way, you're going to end up with more lead in the glaciers.
Starting point is 01:36:57 So I talked to this ice core specialist for an hour on zoom and I'm like, man, so I flush this out for you, explain to me. So he explains explains me how they determine whether or not leads from an anthropogenic origin or if it's natural and that's based on if there's an archaeological site that they can match the other isotopes to he went through all the troubles with that he even even lamented having he's got other people in his field that are hardcore anti-pseudo science because they're you know climate change deniers are dealing with and so he's all he's like and's like, some of these guys are just too zealous, overzealous with it. I get where you're coming from.
Starting point is 01:37:29 But then I put the video out and Flint contacts the dude and next thing you know, well, you know, I didn't exactly say it though. He doesn't change what he says. He just kind of implies that I wasn't quite being accurate. He doesn't give a full anything. It makes it vague all of a sudden and it's quite clear he was pressured from a fucking archaeologist. He's a climate scientist. Why do you care? Because they're all part of the same little Twitter keyboard warrior. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Twitter cult members. Yeah and that right there changed my attitude on like it changed my attitude on the whole global warming thing. I was like that's probably accurate. Now it's like ah you know I don't fucking know. And I'm going to dig into this because I don't trust your sons of bitches anymore. I know that if somebody pressured him from upstairs, he would have crumpled like a bag because he sure did when Flint pushed him. So the the issue is that it's not like there's one explanation that could conceivably have caused this massive cataclysm.
Starting point is 01:38:27 There's probably a lot of variables. Just like there's always been. I mean, we always like to conveniently ignore super volcanoes. When one of those blows, the whole world's fucked. The country's dead. Everyone's fucked. You should consider the possibility that that's related to pole shifts as well. And I could give you a point.
Starting point is 01:38:43 There is one that happened, you know, I've heard you talk about before the Toba Yeah, yeah, did you know that happened at the same time of a of a geomagnetic pole excursion? Oh boy Well, it makes sense. You're having all this movement there's movement inside the earth a full pole shift is when they believe that the most the innermost portion of the molten within the earth core shifts a most the innermost portion of the molten within the Earth core shifts. A geomagnetic pull excursion is a partial pull flip which they theorize is related to the outer portion of the mantle. The Earth's crust sits on top of molten everything and when that shifts it shifts our compasses and it's not
Starting point is 01:39:18 unreasonable to suggest that when something shifts inside the earth it would affect things on the surface. I touched on this in the last time I was on, but when it comes to earthquakes, as an example, some originate in the crust, which is like 28 miles at its thickest, I believe, or on average, and others originate in the molten outer portion of the mantle. Well, if something shifts inside the earth, why wouldn't it cause issues on the surface, whether it be earthquakes or volcanic activity, in some volcanic activity involving super volcanoes coincides with geomagnetic pole excursions. And so when I was on your show last
Starting point is 01:39:54 time talking about pole shifts, along with the ice ages, I was part of the same topic. Why is it that media matters funded by George Soros decided to do a hit piece on Jimmy Corsetti, the YouTuber brother that came after me hard on this, which I, to be honest, I relished over. I was like, this is hilarious. I'm like, they don't understand that it's actually good publicity. It is. And it makes me feel like credible anymore. Right. And it makes me feel like I'm over the target. Cause what's that saying about,
Starting point is 01:40:18 you get the most flack when you're over it. So like, I'm like, it makes me think that I'm onto something because nowhere in any of these climate change topics, you know, as far as like the narratives on it, do they mention anything natural involving, whether it be pole shifts, they sure as hell don't bring up the green Sahara. They don't bring anywhere into the equation. They don't bring up the scientific fact
Starting point is 01:40:38 that the earth was warmer 4,000 years ago. There's Nobel Prize laureates that have been speaking out about this. There's two of them, Dr. Clauser, and there's gentleman I'm going to draw a blank in the top of my head. But like they've shared this data. This is scientific fact and they're getting shunned and ridiculed for it. Yeah, the problem is there's a consensus that's been politically accepted and it's been talked about so much. It's a political talking point. And if they lose that political talking point, they lose a large percentage of their platform. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Right? There's so many parts of the liberal, the leftist platform that they need to have these narratives. And one of them is climate change. And Donald Trump is a climate change denier. The right-wing people are climate change deniers. Ergo science deniers, ergo racists, ergo...
Starting point is 01:41:29 It's very, very, very, very, very stupid and it's bad for all of us because I think we all need to have an understanding of how delicate our environment is and how delicate life on Earth is and that it is this constantly changing thing that has never been static. We know that, we know about the dinosaurs, we know about all these different things, we know about the ice age, but we don't truly have a comprehensive narrative that everyone accepts.
Starting point is 01:41:55 It's become politicized. And it's become politicized by the worst people because they're the cultists. They're the ones that made, not the only ones, but I'm a lot less political than a lot of people in this community. And I said it when, when COVID first started getting bad and you could see it on the internet, I was real quick to say, man, we're going to be locked down for years guys. And everybody's laughing at me, but it's like, it's a political football. Neither side,
Starting point is 01:42:19 neither side is going to, to drop a square. We don't live in a society of political compromise anymore. We live in a society of give them an inch, they take a mile. Neither side is going to to drop a square. We don't live in a society of political compromise anymore. We live in a society of give them an inch they take a mile. Neither side is going to concede one fucking inch on this and we're going to be dealing with the same argument three years from now and lo and behold we were dealing and that's what's crazy about this is that data has become politicized. Science and data and knowledge has become politicized over 80,000 papers were retracted last year. 80,000 scientific papers. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Oh, like 60% of them were medical. The top 10 most still-sighted papers that have been retracted are all medical. The medical community is fucked right now from COVID. It turned in on itself and just started, and if you look at their papers and stuff, it's insane. They are all at each other's throats in all kinds of different ways,
Starting point is 01:43:09 still citing retracted papers and all kinds of goofy little shit because it became a political football. We could see it on TikTok. You watch a nurse come out there and she's gonna do her little TikTok and you can just look, is that a donkey next to her name or an elephant?
Starting point is 01:43:22 If it's an elephant, she can tell you there's nobody in this hospital, it's fucking empty. If it's an elephant she's gonna tell you there's nobody in this hospital it's fucking empty if it's a donkey she can tell you about the body outside the machine outside making corpse starch out of the fucking dead people that they're they can't bury him as fast as they're dying it's it was so openly easily for the average Joe could look right through it could just see if this is a fucking this is just an argument between the two parties isn't it? And they're just transferred this to the medical problem. Well, you remember in the beginning days of the pandemic, when they were really fear mongering,
Starting point is 01:43:51 when they gave a preposterous number of people that were going to die from COVID and what was the percentage at the high point? Was it like three and a half percent or something like that? Or was it 30%? It was something. There's a compilation video, Jamie, see if you can find it where they're dunking on Donald Trump Because Donald Trump said I've heard it's less than 1% he was right. It's he was totally quite a bit less than 1% He was right about the UV stuff too, but I think they were trying to say that it was 34% I think that's what they were saying. It's 3.4 or 34. I can't remember which, but they were repeating it ad nauseum on television that this was going to be the death rate of people that got COVID.
Starting point is 01:44:31 It's one of the things that justified the lockdowns. If it really was less than 1%, people go, so it's like, what's the flu? And then you get into the flu, you go, well, what's the percentage difference? It's like 50% difference. Okay, what are we doing? Is this a bad flu? Is that what this is? This is like 50% difference. Okay, what are we doing? Yeah, this is a bad flu. Is that what this is? This is like a bad flu, but you can't say that or you're some kind of anti science heritage
Starting point is 01:44:49 You're a terrible person. You're killing grandma's, you know, if you want to mix it up, Jamie, there's a video So last time I was on I mentioned a clip of Donald Trump talking about it's gonna get cold again Mm-hmm, and I didn't we couldn't find the clip at the time, but I have it in my folder Jamie It's just Donald Trump. It's in the front with all the other folders step at a time Let's try to find that video of them all repeating the same thing over and over again It's Brian Stelter that little weasel on CNN Constantly repeating the fact that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. He was right. He was absolutely correct Donald Trump doesn't just think say things out of his butt like people make him out to believe I'm not saying he doesn't talk
Starting point is 01:45:27 in that way when if you're a renter you run your podcast you're you run the run out your ass every night he wasn't talking out of his butt with the UV killing off bacteria and viruses no no he just said it in a way that wasn't logical he said like you get the light into your body They figured out how to get LED lights into lungs to kill viruses Specific thing to look is typing in Donald Trump covert compilation video gives me a bunch of Death rate death rate is what's important death rate competent compilation versus the media and see is the the media was the one that we're dunking on him for saying they and they were coming
Starting point is 01:46:11 Over this ridiculously high rate that turned out to not be accurate at all Well, I think we have these those people but those people the leftists or whatever you want to call them the Flint dibbles of the fucking world these guys are They like we're talking about with climate change and everything else They don't want to leave anything in there that could let the other side have anything They assume that the average rank-and-file Joe public is dumb as hell Right they I mean one of the things they'll always say about ancient apocalypse complain about they'll be like well He goes on there and he talks shit about archaeologists and everybody's gonna believe everything he says because it's
Starting point is 01:46:45 so well made it's like man I didn't do that at all and and in the first season he did talk a little shit about archaeologists but the the bottom to me what if I'm watching this anything I don't care what it is if the person says you know mainstream scientists disagree with me here but here's what I have to say all my alarm bells go off and that tells me I cannot hang my hat on what this motherfucker's saying. I gotta go Google it. That's what Graham does over and over again. Mainstream archaeologists disagree with me.
Starting point is 01:47:10 So for them to say everybody in the country's just, everybody in the world's just gonna believe this. It's nuts. So it's 3.4%. So this is it. So give me some volume here. And a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. I think the number is way under 1%.
Starting point is 01:47:24 So to fact check, the World Health Organization says the coronavirus death rate is 3.4%. President Trump lies that the World Health Organization is wrong. The number is 3.4%. 3.4% is what it's being reported around the world. My boy Sanjay. The death rate. The percentage is 3.4%. And no hunks from the president can change that. Trump lied about the most recent World Health Organization estimate that the global death rate of coronavirus is 3.4% and no hunts from the president can change that. Trump lied about the most recent World Health Organization estimate that the global death rate of coronavirus is 3.4%.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Jesus. The 3.4% death rate was wrong and WHO data later updated it to... ...a fraction of 1%. Let's go back into history. Trump has a hunch that the death rate is lower than 1%. Way under 1%. Way under 1%. Did someone put a mozzarella stick in his stupid hole? Trump lied to viewers about the mortality rate is lower than 1%. Way under 1%. Way under 1%. Did someone put a mozzarella stick in his stupid hole?
Starting point is 01:48:06 Trump lied to viewers about the mortality rate. Way under 1%. False information. He's spreading disinformation. Misinformation and danger. Disinformation. If you're president of the United States, you have the world's greatest scientists
Starting point is 01:48:17 at your disposal. You listen to them. Leading scientists, including Dr. Fauci, wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine that the death rate could be considerably less than 1% Way under 1% why see this is we've seen enough these people are fucking puppets man They're puppets and they willfully gleefully repeat these narratives yep, and
Starting point is 01:48:41 Instead of saying well, where did you get that information? Yep. And instead of saying, well, where did you get that information? Who are you talking to? Let's find out if that's correct. Why does the World Health Organization think it's 3.4%? Is there any nefarious intent behind this whole idea of it killing everybody that's forcing some enormously profitable venture? Like forcing everybody to take these fucking new vaccines you guys developed. Right. Like is that, could that be factored in? Maybe?
Starting point is 01:49:10 Well no, only, you only hear that it's factored in once everybody's profited and got out, including Bill Gates. Yeah. Bill Gates, who's on television telling everybody get the vaccine, you won't get COVID, and then afterwards, ah, it didn't work. After he had unloaded all of his stock, he only wasn't effective, and it turns out COVID wasn't as bad as we thought it was. Well, you guys are really responsible for a bunch of people taking a medication that was unproven. You're responsible for all the
Starting point is 01:49:34 side effects. You're responsible for all these and you're responsible for fear mongering, lying, closing down businesses, ruining economies, changing the political structure of the country. They need to be held to account. I'm not gonna forget this and a lot of other people want people's lives were destroyed and it is I mean there needs to be there needs to be a reckoning. Elon recently said that he's still his pronouns are still prosecute Fauci. I love it. He's a real real possibility of making an impact. Oh, yes He does I mean they listen to him yeah When it comes to the when it comes to the the economic side of it
Starting point is 01:50:12 I honestly think if out of everything it was the jab notwithstanding Just strictly from a top-down perspective those guys I mean it's most immense transfer of wealth in modern history Amazon Walmart All these motherfuckers cleaned house and you know what shut down in Spokane We lost white elephant this guy had started in the 40s after World War two He would buy surplus and put it in this store He had fishing lures for 30 cents fucking Transformers from the 80s He always buying in 2000s on one eBay got all kinds of shit there and he went out of business because he had to close
Starting point is 01:50:43 His doors all everything everything you can't even California You can't even go to fucking Walmart at 2 in the morning like we did like everything's closed now at a certain time compared to where It was everything's well, that's important because the corona virus doesn't stay up It's a yeah And it doesn't exist when you walk to your table well and sit down all the homeless people need a place to hang out And so Walmart parking lot at 2 a.m. that's when they show up. I meant actually the opposite.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Coronavirus comes out at night. But it doesn't even. The whole thing was so dumb because then they allowed Black Lives Matter protests. Like what about six foot distancing? Everybody's breathing, they're screaming. And they're all yelling down the street and you guys think that's not gonna spread it?
Starting point is 01:51:22 And the brain dead stuff behind the symbolism, I talked about this a long time ago on my channel the The person that thought of oh, we're gonna have this band to play Let's get them masks that have a big hole in it to show solidarity with everybody audience It's like everybody's just gonna look at that. It'd be like people swimming so we don't need It hurts me to see those clips Was one of the biggest IQ tests in modern times, I feel like.
Starting point is 01:51:48 It was really a compliance test. That's what it was. It was a lot of compliance testing. And check to see how many cowards there are out there that even though they know something to be true, are terrified of the blowback so they don't speak about it. And when you do speak about it, you do get attacked. I obviously experienced that and I was fascinated by it I mean it was kind
Starting point is 01:52:06 of horrifying to watch but also fascinating like oh so this is real like you guys are just completely all lock-in-step and all full of shit and you don't even care that I got better quick brought to you by Pfizer yeah and you can watch how the world you can see this from a world perspective to different different communities all around the world reacted differently. I remember lots of people, Oh, why can't we do like Korea and Japan? And well, almost everybody's wearing a mask over there and they do all this reporting and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:32 It's like, yeah, you ever been there, man? You ever talked to any Koreans or Japanese people? Their culture is lockstep compared to ours. They are very much, there's, there's no counterculture in those communities. That's counterculture. People are all in jail. You have one community. So yeah, they're told to do this they fucking do it well obviously we don't do that media is so Compromised so obviously compromised and you know Callie Means has a really good point about this he was saying that
Starting point is 01:52:57 The reason why they spend so much money Advertising on cable news is not because it's effective. It's because once they do that, now cable news cannot criticize them. It's so much smarter because it's like, listen, we're spending all this money just to make sure that you guys toe the line. That's what they're doing. And so the news is not the news. It's only the news if an advertiser agrees that it's the news
Starting point is 01:53:27 Yeah, and that's not good No, that's not good for anybody left-wing right-wing if you think that somehow or another money Gives a fuck about your political persuasion It's just it's so stupid that it got attached to a political ideology and from the most Compliant of people those are the ones and from the most compliant of people. Those are the ones who are the most willing to go along with the narrative because the consequences on the left of coloring outside the lines, they attack you so hard. They crush you so hard, like this Martyr Maid situation or anything, anything where you're
Starting point is 01:53:58 stepping outside the line to talk about it. Like what you experience just discussing something that turns out to be absolutely correct. They a big hit piece about you which essentially acts as an advertisement for you, right? Just builds your channel. It's a Streisand effect. Right then people go to your channel go this guy's great. This fucking show's awesome like this is interesting information and just Undeniable facts the undeniable facts like that. No one can discuss No one can debate in any way, shape, or form the actual size of these stones, where they came from. This is not under debate.
Starting point is 01:54:28 So just the undeniable stuff is unbelievably fascinating. And then when they go to your channel, they go, where's all the Nazi shit? I'm looking for some Nazi shit. I'm just getting facts. You know, we should go back to Gobekli Tepe, Ganung Padang, and the Great Pyramid, because there's some more stuff involving archaeology and lack of excavations that are actually pretty significant. So going back to Gobekli Tepe, one of the photos that, Jamie, that you showed earlier
Starting point is 01:54:55 was before excavations began, and do you notice that there was no trees there? So one of the controversies is that there's some 800 trees that were planted on the site a full decade after excavations began and the trees are buried on or were planted on top of ancient ruins which stand to not only destroy the ruins but also highlights that they can't excavate what's underneath them when the trees are there. And so here's the before and after. So what's the conventional explanation for why they planted all these trees over a site that they know is filled with ruins underneath it? So when this property, this was a property owned by farmers and the Turkish government wanted to purchase the land for them and the owners felt that they were being lowballed. So what they did was they planted all of trees on top of the site in order to increase the value of the land, which for me when I
Starting point is 01:55:47 first heard this I'm like I don't understand this doesn't make sense to me. Gobekli Tepe is already priceless. It's the world's oldest and most mysterious ancient site on earth. It's priceless. Now to be fair, and Dan you've you've harped on this and I really agree with you. It's government stuff. If the feds are gonna buy your land for a highway they don't care what's underneath they don't care what's an Indian burial ground or what. It's government stuff. If the feds are gonna buy your land for a highway, they don't care What's underneath it? I don't care what's an Indian burial ground or what it's what's this land worth in this city? It's good this kind of proper so they made it an orchard instead of a desert now Here's the thing though. Hmm of all things they planted olive trees and there's something that was enacted
Starting point is 01:56:16 It's called the olive law in Turkey in the 1930s where it's illegal to cut down olive trees in Turkey So I'm like, well, that's interesting. And let me ask you this real quick. Imagine, no, just imagine being the owner of that property and you've got this, you found these ruins here, you've got all these people coming out there, paying you money to check shit out, you're selling all kinds of stuff
Starting point is 01:56:36 and now the government's gonna take it from you. You've had it for 10 fucking years, now the government's saying it's theirs. So you go out and you start planting trees. So when you dig a hole to plant that tree, you find an artifact. Do you put that in the pile of artifacts to hand to Klaus Schmidt or do you put that in the pile to sell to the antique collector that's not gonna tell anybody? Obviously you put in, he's pissed off. My opinion is that guy sold a ton of fucking artifacts while that
Starting point is 01:56:58 was going down. He just, why wouldn't you? Now are there artifacts connected to go back to the other thing? Yeah, they find stuff. Like what kind of stuff? No pottery or anything, but they have found like, one of the biggest things is a bunch of chunks of stone. Like to archaeologists, even they call a microchip, which would be like a tiny little piece you get from, that's still technically an artifact. So there's a lot of that kind of stuff. There are a lot of bones that have been charred and things like that. But there's nothing too terribly amazing. No tools.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Well, nothing too crazy. But again, that's the kind of stuff that would possibly deal. This is where my skepticism can get a little cynical. You know, I'm of the opinion if the antichithramechanism would have been identified as what it is and they pulled it out of the ocean, they would have never made it to a museum. That there was somebody, I was like telling Jim last night we were having dinner, if the reports of giant bones that you see in the 1930s from guys that were over in New Mexico and then they're bringing them back to the Smithsonian and they just never made
Starting point is 01:57:52 it there, if they really did find giant bones, which I'm skeptical of, but if they did, this is probably an advertisement to sell them while they're traveling these things across the country, oh you know, just happened to lose them along the way because this dude came over and bought them. This has been a problem since day one. Especially when you think about those kind of crazy old school Rockefeller type billionaires who really love to control information and everything. If you have access to something that just undeniably throws the whole timeline into
Starting point is 01:58:23 a question or throws a narrative of human beings to a question. Now you've got some power with that little artifact, don't you? Yeah, I'm of the opinion that that's been a problem. Like I don't believe in the Dendera light. I assume you know what the Dendera light is, right? Well, let's say you glossed over the Antikythera. Sorry. How do you say it?
Starting point is 01:58:40 The Antikythera mechanism? Antikythera. That one is fascinating. It's crazy, ain't it? Because that is, how old is it? It's like 2,000 years old, 3,000 years old. 2,000 years old. It's a hand-carved brass machine that you use to, it tracks the cycles of the moon, the earth, and different planets in our solar system. It's brilliant. Yeah. And they didn't know what it was and they found it was like some Corroded up gears and then they start doing some sort of a I mean, I don't even know how they did it how they
Starting point is 01:59:12 Understand all the different pieces of it because it's all corroded together But they use some sort of scanning mechanism, correct? To and see if you can find what it actually looks like you can buy replicas of it nowadays They make little boxes of the damn thing. That's what it looked like when they found it. But now, show what it looks like when they've done a scan of it. I stumbled across something interesting, too, and the guy found it. He, uh, heap of dead naked people.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Whoa. Whoa. He emerged from the sea shaking in fear and mumbling about a heap of dead naked people. He's among a group of Greek divers from the eastern Mediterranean island of Simi who were searching for natural sponges. They had sheltered from a violent storm near the tiny island of, how do you say it again? Antikythera? Antikythera. Antikythera. Between Crete and mainland Greece, when the storms subsided,
Starting point is 01:59:58 they'd die for sponges, chanced upon a shipwreck full of Greek treasures. The most significant wreck of the ancient world to have been found up to that point. The dead naked people were marble sculptures scattered on the seafloor, along with many other artifacts. Soon after, the discovery prompted the first major underwater archaeological dig in history." So see if you can find what this mechanism looks like, what it actually looks like. There's a replica. Yeah, so this is the replica of this thing. This incredible piece of engineering from 2000 years ago, or all these gears and all these planets and you could figure out where everything was. How? How? How'd they do this? How'd they do this? And this is beyond what we ever thought
Starting point is 02:00:41 was available back then. Now there is a YouTube channel that a guy goes through, I forget his name, but he does go through and he makes one of these with old school tools, but he's making each gear by hand, he's making the wire by hand. Boy, that guy's a dork. He's a dork, yes. But it is the greatest possible.
Starting point is 02:00:56 Bring him on the show. Greatest possible version of a dork, I mean it in a good way, sir. But it is fun to watch, but it's a. Incredible, though. But at the end of the day, that's interesting to be able to recreate it, but the planning of the thing, that's really where the engineering and mathematics. And then you have to take into consideration, what is this based on?
Starting point is 02:01:15 What knowledge was available back then that we did not think was? So we're talking about 2000 years ago, this is the time of Christ Christ We did not think that they had any kind of machines that were in any way similar to that thing What else don't we know right? It else is lost how much of that stuff is gone like if this is 2,000 years ago, and it's that corroded What does 10,000 years do to it right? Oh, yeah, I'm gonna start the bond right and the fact they even found it at the bottom of the ocean is a miracle in It's so this is what's important to understand and this is another lie that flinked double told about the number of shipwrecks that have been Find and not only that but what would be left over after just a few thousand years and that when they find these
Starting point is 02:01:59 1,000 year old shipwrecks. They don't find any wood anymore You just find the pottery. So you just know where the shipwreck is because there's a bunch of gold on the ground and some pots. But if you go back 10,000 years before that, how much has the surface of the floor of the ocean shifted? How much of that stuff has been covered up? How much is it? 10,000 years is so long. Now what if it's 20,000? What if it's 30? Yeah. To say we don't know is the correct thing. It's the correct thing to do. And that's what nobody wants to do. There's a there's a hypothesis. It's more of a it's more of a like a mental I forget the name of what you call it like a mind teaser like a way to make your brain think. It's called the Solarian hypothesis.
Starting point is 02:02:43 The Solarians are a Doctor Who monster that supposedly lived on Earth like millions of years before humans wake up one day and they find all these monkeys running around they decide they don't like us. But the hypothesis is how would you determine if there was a species or an advanced civilization that lived on the Earth a million years ago? Five million years ago? As soon as we have fossil fuels, as long as we had the first bit of oil had been created on the planet, you could have a civilization like ours. So what would you look for?
Starting point is 02:03:11 The only conclusion is maybe nuclear stuff. If they tested like maybe nuclear power plant, we might still be able to find some radioactive material. But beyond that, not a goddamn thing. After 10 million years, you're going to find a fucking bit of it. That's what their conclusion is. And this is a scientific thing. This is something that's a thought tool. That's what it's called. It's something that they use in science, in archaeology, in history and stuff presumably to look at
Starting point is 02:03:34 that problem. But these guys like obviously didn't do that. Like I said he thinks people are stupid. He said right here on in sitting in this room that oh well you know it doesn't matter how long something's underwater you might think that It matters how long something's underwater, but it really does it's like are you fucking kidding me of course it does Okay, anybody knows that this is of course it is this in terms of whether or not you're gonna find it Right they haven't done like a comprehensive lidar scan of the bottom of the ocean floor. They just have not done that That's not possible right now, but if they did do it who fucking knows what they'd find down there Well, here's where things get nuts is that here we are talking about things in far as tens of thousands of years
Starting point is 02:04:10 So we do have a site that Graham Hancock highlighted in season one of ancient apocalypse called Ganung Panang in Indonesia and Jamie I have a folder on this so this pyramidal structure could Potentially be 27,000 years old. It's hotly debated, but as Graham Hancock highlighted, there is a subterranean tunnel and chamber which may have those those dates and it's not being excavated. And a geologist, Danny Nananwajawa, I never pronounced it correctly, forgive me Danny, but he is a geologist that analyzed the ground penetrating radar and he said there's strong likelihood that it's man-made. Now
Starting point is 02:04:48 the the skeptics, the academics will say well it's probably just a lava tube because the structure is volcanic in nature. But something interesting has happened that back in 2014 the Indonesian government said that they were willing to allocate unlimited resources and funding to excavate the site. Something shifted a handful of years ago where they're not excavating it now, and as of today, there's no plan in place to find out what that subterranean chamber is. So if it was indeed man-made, we don't know. It could be natural, it could be man-made, but we're never gonna know what it is until we go digging.
Starting point is 02:05:23 And right now- Well, we do know for sure is that people occupied the land above it after that 100% Yeah, 100% that is a man-made structure. It was it was volcanic in nature, but they terraced it It's it's a pyramidal like structure. It's not a pyramid And we do have examples over and over again of truly ancient things unexplainableable things, where people built more crude versions above it. All over the world. The lava tubes, there's all kinds of places in South America where they have a big pyramid built on top of a spring. The lava tube could have been a cave that was sacred that they just kept embellishing and kept embellishing and kept embellishing,
Starting point is 02:06:00 saying it's just a lava tube, not a man-made tunnel down there as a non sequitur anybody who knows anything about ancient history Could understand how a sacred site could have a pyramid built on top of this thing a bathroom break I'm back awesome. Okay, so where were we we were well About gonna lack of excavations at gunung panang and this should segue into something that's very very interesting Which is the Great Pyramid of Giza? segue into something that's very, very interesting, which is the Great Pyramid of Giza. I've already said that Gobekli Tepe is arguably not just the oldest, but the most mysterious ancient site on earth because it's not supposed to exist. However, the Great Pyramid of Giza, I would say probably trumps it from the standpoint
Starting point is 02:06:38 that it's just so mysterious, its sophistication, as well as the fact that we have no idea how it was constructed and It's arguably the most debated structure in all of human history for two standpoints One of which is that so many people debate on whether it was built to be a tomb for the Pharaohs Or whether it was some sort of lost technology and had some other purpose whether it's energy or whatever it may be done stuff Which is a fascinating topic and I'll have a story Involving me visiting it there with a certain person that really is, it's a story in itself, but let me say this. So there, back in, eight years ago, back in 2016, through Muon technology, they discovered that there's a
Starting point is 02:07:18 hidden chamber in the Great Pyramid, which is massive. Jamie, I have a folder on this, Great Pyramid Hidden Void, and it was established in 2017 through a scientific study. So we're talking seven, discovered eight years ago, corroborated, or eight years ago, corroborated seven years ago in a study. No Egyptologist debates it at all. Is that a rough interpretation of the shape? Yes, they don't know the exact shape of it. They have an approximate size and an approximate shape. So what now many theorize that it is a second so-called grand gallery. It was originally thought to be 30 meters long. Now they have it at over 40 meters long, so almost 150 feet, and it is above the so-called grand gallery. And so when they first discovered it, Zahi was came
Starting point is 02:08:04 out of the woodwork and like denounced it and said, this is nothing, you know, you know, and they said they're going to spend a few years debating with the international community on how to go about it. Brother, that was seven, eight years ago, almost rounding up to a decade. And as of today, there is no plan of any kind to go in and find out what's in there. So they would have to go through the walls to get to it? No, actually, brother, they could just drill a half inch diameter hole and set a little tube camber through it and they could figure out what's in there
Starting point is 02:08:32 by the end of the week. Get an endoscope right there, just like when you go to the doctor. And here's what's so important about this. Like we're talking about the most debated and arguably the most important structure in all of human history. Was it a tomb?
Starting point is 02:08:43 Was it a lost technology? We have no idea how they even built it. That's the only thing that's more debated than that is, how did the Egyptians construct the pyramid? So many theories have already been debunked on it. We just don't know how they did it. Two million three hundred thousand stones that were supposedly all put in place within 20 years. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:09:01 It was the reign of the Pharaoh Khufu. The 20 years part, I've referred to that as like the gateway drug to becoming a pyramid. It's that that's that is that 20 years things the stupidest fucking thing if any guy who's ever stacked bricks for five minutes knows that is absurd. But they just run with that because you know you can't. That's one of the weird things they're written record is more robust to them than the actual like science like the carbon dating for the pyramid in the written record are a couple hundred years off. All of the entire fourth dynasty, the carbon dating is a couple hundred years off.
Starting point is 02:09:31 They just come up with some explanation for it and stick to that written record. Well, my favorite is when they look at the hieroglyphs that depict pharaohs from 30,000 years ago. They're like, oh, that's all bullshit. Yeah. But the one that, a little further down, this is important shit here. But up there, nah. Well, why do you think that the 30,000 year mark is bullshit? But the 5,000 year mark is legit like that is really weird guys
Starting point is 02:09:52 It is like why are you conveniently ignoring all this other stuff while validating the more recent because it contradicts the textbooks They already read the educators that that dynamic sorry, that dynamic, you mentioned Christopher Dunn. When he saw one of my recent videos about two months ago, me and him are gonna start, he's gonna come on my channel and each artifact that he's covered, we're gonna discuss one at a time. He knows I don't believe in ancient high technology
Starting point is 02:10:16 and he told me basically to summarize what he said is that he is tired of having either yes men or cynics. He wants somebody that doesn't agree with him to sit down and have a conversation about these things and that'll be honest and we can actually get somewhere. And it was like the guy had been waiting 40 years for me and I had a fucking GED and I worked as an electrician. I don't fuck, I should not be the one sitting
Starting point is 02:10:38 in the chair next to the man, but all the people qualified to do it wanna treat him like he's an idiot. Right, and his theory is very fascinating. Always. That it was some sort of a power plant generated hydrogen and it's feasible. It's wild and I got to tell you, you know, when you walk through the Great Pyramid, there's nothing about it that resembles anything like a tomb.
Starting point is 02:10:57 It seems like it was some sort of industrial function that had a, or a function of some kind. So, here's a story And I have his permission to share it. So I had the, you know, the only thing more wild than than the topic of the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations is the diverse nature of people that are into this topic. So I had the pleasure of connecting with George St. Pierre, the goat, the legendary UFC fighter. And because of him is how I went with him to Baalbek. He had unique connections and I was able to go with him and we had
Starting point is 02:11:28 connected and then I went with him from there to Egypt. And we went inside the Great Pyramid, this is his first time in there, and we basically tipped the, we tipped the guard, I'll just say it, and we had the King's Chamber alone to ourselves for a few minutes. And we were with Yousuf Awian, who's the son of the late Akeem Abdullah Awian, who was the mentor of John Anthony West. And he was in the pyramid code. And so George laid in the so called sarcophagus. And Yusuf did the om, I can't do it, but you do it with your throat. And he does inside the box. And it makes the whole granite box vibrate. I've experienced it's wild. It feels it's the reverberation off the off the stone.
Starting point is 02:12:08 So he did that to George, George laid in it. And he did it for about a minute. This is so George comes out of the box. His eyes were wide open. And he said, Yeah, there he is. He said, I'm coming out of retirement. I'm going to win the title. And he just started pacing around the room. So fast forward three, four hours later, I'm in the hotel pool with him. What year was this? Just last year, September of 2023. And just to clarify, at that time, he was considering doing a grappling match.
Starting point is 02:12:43 That's not what he was talking about. He was talking about winning the UFC World Title again. So fast forward a few hours later, I'm at the hotel, the Mina house Marriott hotel pool with the pyramids overlooking us. And I'm like, Hey, George, you said you're a thing about coming out of retirement. And he's like, I love his accent. No, Jimmy, I'm not coming out the retirement. And I said, what made you say that? And he's like, he thought about he's like, it's just how I felt. So just to clarify, arguably the goat, although him and john jones, I you know, they're they're comparable, just different. But the goat and his first inclination out of coming
Starting point is 02:13:23 out of the box with his why his eyes wide open was like, I'm coming out of retirement, I'm going to win the title. And I asked him he's like, No, I'm not going to do it. It's just how I felt in the moment. And I'm like, when people talk about it in the context of it being some sort of energy device, some people have speculated that with all these legends of humans living to hundreds and even 1000s of years, some people have proposed that maybe it was a DNA restoration. I have no idea what it was. I just don't think it was a tomb. I think it was something else.
Starting point is 02:13:51 I think it was a functional structure of some kind. But the fact that someone like him, with his history and his accomplishments, the fact that that was the first thing that he felt coming out of that box after doing the reverberation thing, is a story. Like, I don't know what to make of it. I think that's normal. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think a guy like that has always got it in the back of his head.
Starting point is 02:14:13 That's a good point. Yeah, I mean, that's the highlights of his life. When he was conquering everyone in the welterweight division, he was the greatest fighter on the planet Earth. It's the highlight of his life. So anytime he gets an elevated feeling I'm sure that's one of the reasons why like a lot of old fighters they drink a lot or they do drugs I think they're trying to they experience highs that most people could never
Starting point is 02:14:37 imagine right and I think whenever they experience a new high some new thing they get in their head I'm'm making a fucking comeback, and they want they want to chase that dragon. They get in the ring with Jake Paul. Sorry. That probably had more to do with money. But it's just this thing that just is in every one of those people. Yeah, that makes sense. Although the fact that he's laying inside the Great Pyramid and you would almost think that'd be the furthest thing from his mind at the time. No, it's an elevated experience.
Starting point is 02:15:07 That's it, right? So it's an elevated experience. It makes him very excited. And when a guy like that is very excited, he thinks about the most exciting thing he's ever done. He's like, I'm gonna fucking go do it again. We gotta get you in that box. We gotta get you in the Great Pyramid. I'd like to go in the box. I'd like to go there. I really would. It's just a matter of carving out the time. Right. And I really have to do it. Especially if, let's see what happens with the world.
Starting point is 02:15:29 Right. The world just keeps getting sketchier and sketchier in certain parts of the world. Right. You know? Sadly. Yeah, sadly. But it would be nice to be able to visit. Going back to the point of the, this hidden chamber.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Yeah. Like what is, so... Why would you not want to explore that? It makes no feasible sense. Like let's just just say that well first of all whether it was a tomb or something else we could find out by going in there maybe there's another fair maybe there's a Pharaoh in there maybe we would instantly know that okay all this conjecture and debate is is now been put aside we know the sarcophagus there could be treasure they stashed the dude for real and here's
Starting point is 02:16:03 something else right A lot of conjecture as far as a lost technology. Could there be some sort of evidence of a tooling and how they constructed it? Could there be evidence on how it was constructed itself? Even if it's a completely empty room and nothing else, we still would have learned something new. In fact, I've joked to other people like, hey, they could turn this into a pay-per-view event. I bet you a hundred million people around the world Even if there's nothing in it so when because we will learn something new yeah And it is of course that the the academics will say well, we don't want to damage the pyramid anymore
Starting point is 02:16:37 I'm like, okay I respect that but the thing is already a wreck they use tons of dynamite to blast their way in it The casing stones are all blown off. They drill holes in it on the regular to check things. Right. So between Gobekli Tepe not being fully excavated, Ganung Padang, as well as the Great Pyramid, arguably the three oldest and most mysterious ancient sites on earth for some reason are not being appropriately excavated. Isn't there a chamber underneath the Sphinx as well? Well, there's tons.
Starting point is 02:17:03 They arguably are. Yeah, there's something there, but they're not, it's... Smaller. It's smaller and Zahi Hawass stuck his nose down in the tiny little chamber that's down there. They say that there's supposed to be something more there, but like that's dicey as far as what they know for sure. They have never released any photos or video of any kind underneath the Sphinx, so it's like, okay, just stick a camera in there with a flashlight and show us that there's
Starting point is 02:17:26 nothing in there like there or just show us what is in there it shows the walls they say they say there's nothing in there I'm like okay well show me show me what nothing looks like right so like I'm just look I'm an outsider in this and I have an inquisitive mindset you're not you're a human being on planet Earth and you're a part of history and And you know what? Every single person alive has an inherent right to know the true history of our origins. And I don't care what country you're born in because people have come after me like, it is none of your business what's happening at Gobekli Tepe. You're not a Turkish citizen. And I say, excuse me, it is a, they elected for it to become a world heritage site.
Starting point is 02:18:02 So they have thrown that out the window. It is everyone's. It's everyone's business. It surely is. That's a silly argument. It doesn't make any sense. You don't have any place to weigh in on Nazi Germany because you don't live in Germany. It's the people of Earth. It's like we we have a very fractured understanding of the history of the people on earth. Gebeklei Tepe is an excellent piece of evidence that points to that. We don't really understand why they did it or who did it. And there's probably more of those things out there
Starting point is 02:18:30 that we missed. The Sahara Desert's the greatest example. If they did some sort of very comprehensive examination of the Sahara Desert, like say, if technology advances to the point where they can do some really comprehensive underground scanning of that entire part of the continent. Who fucking knows, man? Only 5% of the Sahara has been studied,
Starting point is 02:18:52 as far as, say, with the use of LIDAR technology. They're using it from space, and they keep finding new structures that are prehistoric. They don't know who made them or when. And throughout the Sahara. They use it from space? Yeah, it's called- They use LIDAR from space?
Starting point is 02:19:03 It's called archaeology from space and the satellites. So this is what's interesting is that they can use satellites with LIDAR that can penetrate like I might be butchering this but I want to say 10 meters I could be off on that but it's it's a substantial amount of depth from a satellite penetrating through dirt. I'm like who would have thought that could even exist. Right. It's pretty amazing that is we have good evidence that they didn't have that no We guess their orbit would decay Yeah, and fly back into yeah because ours do you know a couple things about gun on putting the worth mentioning
Starting point is 02:19:37 The print when they were excavating like mad the president was of the opinion the same opinion that dr Danny Nadi, Wajawa is that That like he not even Nadi Wajawa wrote a book even like Plato was right and it like Atlantis is in Indonesia so the president of the of Java back then believed that that was the case and he had so he was throwing money at it when he lost his bid to Be reelected and somebody else took over. He was the one that shot everything down He's in more lockstep with the archaeologists and stuff, the mainstream guys. So that's one of the reasons it was a changing of the guard
Starting point is 02:20:12 is why all of it just stopped. So one guy was into it and the next guy ain't. Well, let me... okay, here we go. You just opened up the window. Here we go, Jimmy. So the WF conspiracy... it is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. I am not at all convinced that there's something here with them trying to suppress ancient history. Let me be clear. But there is a correlation between what's going on in Gobekli Tepe and Ganung Panang that the minister, so this is a government position, the minister of technology, education, research, and technology, something along those lines, in Indonesia, this gentleman came into power, I believe,
Starting point is 02:20:47 in 2018. His name's Nakeem or something, Nakaram. I have a slide of him in my Gunung Padang thing. He's a global shaper within the World Economic Forum and he is the head decision maker of excavations that would or would not happen, this gentleman, at Gunung Padang. Now, let me be clear, I'm not saying he's suppressing it. All I, and I'm not saying that the WEF is trying to suppress our ancient history. All I'm sharing here is that it just so happens that the gentleman that's in charge of decision-making,
Starting point is 02:21:17 let me be clear, I said it earlier, they went from saying that there will be unlimited resources and funding to excavate Gunung Panang, it stopped, and as of right now, there's no plan in place to do it. And I'm just sharing that the person who would make that decision or has the power to do so happens to be a global shaper. And Klaus Schwab, the former head of the World Economic Forum, I have a video of him gloating about how they've infiltrated government cabinets, the media all over the world and if are enacting their initiative young global leaders They've been so traded the cabinets. It's very good. You can see
Starting point is 02:21:50 The photo of him in the bathroom. No, I would love to know please show him in our bathroom here with the fucking crazy Darth Vader outfit on oh, yeah Yeah, that was that was bizarre wacky as fucking outfit ever if you're you know so on the nose I know you're a evil super villain He looks like a bond in a bond James Bond villain more than more crazy than that like more crazy than a bond But see if you can find that photo yeah, or crazy than a bond villain like a Star Wars villain Yeah, like some he's a sith lord or something be a crazy person to put that fucking thing on and go out in public Unless it's a Halloween costume
Starting point is 02:22:24 Yeah You don't have to be a crazy person to put that fucking thing on and go out in public unless it's a Halloween costume. It's a bizarre outfit for you to wear and if everyone's worried about these secret societies and people that are in control and pulling the strings of the world, what are they worried about? They're worried about fucking crackpots that dress like this. That's what they're worried about. Eyes wide shut parties. Like that kind of shit. You get that photo?
Starting point is 02:22:42 It's fucking crazy. Any word? Oh, sorry. That photo right there. That's that photo? It's fucking crazy. That photo right there. That's the one we have in the bathroom. In front of the podium at the World Economic Forum. What is that fucking photo? What is that outfit you're wearing sir? That looks like something from some like 1970s dystopian film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 percent. Like Metropolis or something., yeah, yeah death race 2000 That's so that out so crazy imagine someone I think it was having to do with the event they were at though Oh, yeah, you can honorary doctorate. This is at a university somewhere in Europe fucking crazy that that's what you wear there anyway
Starting point is 02:23:19 What are you doing? You're dressed like a druid really even got a magic card of him card of him. Look at that. It's so weird So again, we got other outfit That's how I generated okay So when I look at go back Lee Tepe involving my little WF conspiracy idea It is a bit bizarre that that partnership with the doges group was literally announced at the annual World Economic Forum meeting in Davos And I also should share this, that I may have been banned from Turkey. So this is, this is hilarious. So after my video came out, what's his name? Karool? What's his name, Dr. Karool? So the head of archaeology in Turkey took great issue with my conspiracy theories on it
Starting point is 02:24:03 and has, he was quoted an article saying that I should be sanctioned. And then he followed up with like, I will be sanctioned. And I'm like, Well, how are you going to keep me on to go back to the Tepe? Have I been banned from Turkey? Because American citizens don't need a visa to go into Turkey unless they're going to be there more than 90 days. So there's, if I could, I could apply ahead of time, like in Egypt, you can apply for your tourism visa ahead of time and I know if I was rejected he that's what he said is that I'll be sanctioned he was referring to me and I'm like okay does that mean well it means travel bans means you're not gonna let him in the
Starting point is 02:24:36 country it means I go to the airport and get rejected at customs potentially is possibly what would happen he said it will happen I don't know that it's happened you're actually a little bit pricey and I'm like damn it I'm like if Possibly what would happen he said it will happen. I don't know that it's happened Flights to Turkey are actually a little bit pricey, and I'm like damn it I'm like if I get a land there get turned around that was Might be able to make a nice video about it. That's true. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that would be actually yeah You're right that that's a video um sure I mean kind of like helps you Over the target with Quebec Lee tab a or at least you are making them uncomfortable Yeah, right you're forcing them to consider why they have chosen this if it's just for economic reasons
Starting point is 02:25:11 Which does make sense if so many people are already going there. Why should we spend more money? I get well and it makes sense and it's the most likely explanation It's probably true but that means that then this is an issue of either mismanagement or incompetence because it is inexcusable that, because as of right now, their plan is that it will not be fully excavated in any of our lifetimes. And there could potentially be answers involving our ancient past at Gobekli Tepe, and it is entirely inexcusable that we wouldn't dig it up.
Starting point is 02:25:45 And I don't actually think it will take away from tourism by removing the mystery. People are half a million people a year are visiting it just because. And if they dig it up more of it, in my opinion, that's more reason to go there. Well what did you show Jamie? I went to the article about the funding at Ganongpa Deng. It does say that thing about unlimited funding, but things, it might have been also misinterpreted by translation. It's coming from the Jakarta Post. It talks about how the soldiers were using hoes to excavate. They didn't like that. It mentions the first disbursement of 250 grand was put out. Is this from 2014? This
Starting point is 02:26:24 is the same article because it shows the thing that says unlimited amount of research funding but it says it was taken from other funding and then it says that there's a lack of funding right below it. Archaeologists at other sites bemoan a lack of funding. Let me just say this, my ass. All they got to do is drill a hole and stick a camera through it into the tube to figure out if it's a lava tube or something man-made this is not expensive it could get done for thousands of dollars not millions of dollars and
Starting point is 02:26:51 If it is a twenty seven thousand year old pyramidal structure as Graham Hancock has proposed the data look the data It's not proven. It's hotly debated But let me just make this crystal clear We don't know what it is. It could potentially be the oldest ancient ruin on Earth, and we're never going to know the answer until we go looking. And it is entirely unacceptable that we're not doing it. What is happening? There's a thing to get, like, less conspiratorial but support it from a very real position. There's a thing with science with their paradigms. They've looked at it from a very real position. There's a thing with science with their paradigms. They've looked at it from a very long time. With the origins of earth sciences and history, they were expected to
Starting point is 02:27:30 bear out the Bible, prove the Bible right. Then evolution and then Darwin and then it was gradualism, prove the Bible wrong. There is no major global flood. And gradualism, they assumed that everything happened slowly. There's nothing catastrophic in the record and that lasted from the late 1700s all the for 1800s excuse me all the fucking way up until 1980 when the KT dinosaur killing meteor was accepted before that there was no such thing as punctuated equilibrium which is what they call it now where which any kid could figure out is the way the fucking world works. The slow erosion happens on the side of the bank but sometimes there's a big flood that carves a big chunk of the
Starting point is 02:28:11 I mean this is no brainer shit and the life moves on a steady pace normally and then every now and again something catastrophic happens. So my point is is that if they think that digging something up is going to change a paradigm that they're expected to maintain, they're not gonna fucking dig it up. This, the kind of opposition that they face to overturning paradigms, like the Clovis first thing, like when Flint was on here and he tried to play that one down,
Starting point is 02:28:36 not only were careers ruined from that, but one thing you'll almost never hear mentioned was, Clovis first was version two of this. Before that, it was the fulsome point and fulsome first and many careers were ruined by people that posited that the Americans were people before the fulsome culture then they found the clover this is this isn't some that it's not some novel time of well you know there was a scientific debate and a few crit no no no this is standard operating procedure
Starting point is 02:29:01 the way it's always fucking been done so it's not a surprising thing that they're gonna try to hide stuff It's not a surprise. It's just human ego. Yeah and control it's humans always want to be the experts and they always want to be the one in control of the information if the Information that's new that's coming out counters their control and their expertise. They they reject it. It's just ego. That's just ego it's just kind of messed up because I mean I know scientists are people but... It should all be what we know now. This is what we know now and when new information comes along okay now we're thinking about it in a different way but the problem is they've published books. And these books they've definitively given dates. We now
Starting point is 02:29:40 know, we are sure that this... What are your thoughts on the dating of the pyramids and how do they date the pyramids? They date the pyramids based on whatever carbon that they could find in between the stones. Obviously you can't carbon date stones themselves, so you have to use some sort of organic material that's around that. The best dating is that the Great Pyramid is somewhere around 4500 years ago. that was from organic material taken between casing stones. You could argue that the casing stones were restored because they even the Romans restored parts of the Sphinx. Right. I don't know how old the Great Pyramid is
Starting point is 02:30:18 but if it was constructed 4500 years ago then our understanding of what was happening on the Giza Plateau at that time is vastly different than the people that were if you look at any academic textbook, they show people wearing loincloths and barefoot constructing the pyramid and Nah, that's nah. Well even hieroglyphs that depict moving statues It's a bunch of guys sandals pulling a sled. So that depiction which should be in my ramecium folder Jamie that one statue was only 58 metric tons. Only? Compared to the other big boys. I know it's so crazy. This is what they say. They say well they pulled it on a sledge which is like a wooden sled and I'm like the ramecium statue is 15 times heavier than that other one yeah this is what they always show they always show these naked dudes
Starting point is 02:31:09 yeah look at them bare ass heave ho so just to be clear I know because they want to show them that they're dumb and primitive and then playing with dude with the whip he's got some clothes on right that guy's got clothes on but that's kind of been debunked right because one of the things they found is that when they studied the remains that were in the enclosures where the people that worked on the pyramid lived, they're not slaves. No, they were fed well. Yeah, they were fed well and it seems like they were highly skilled.
Starting point is 02:31:37 They had to have been. I mean, I've tried to suss. To me, what's the most impressive thing about it is the accuracy of the pyramid to itself. It's like a perfect square with like two inches of deviation at 756 feet per side. That's like tiny fraction of a percentage off. You're like machine age standards on a fucking gigantic fucking scale. The only thing I could come up with was, and I have to test it, but like if you had a concave mirror, it creates a little circle of light like a magnifying glass does that will start a fire.
Starting point is 02:32:08 At a certain distance, it's gonna be the same size no matter what, so you could calibrate that and if you have to have everything exactly set up, but if you shot at a target and filled up a perfect circle, you could know it was exact range. That kind of thing would work because you can't measure this with ropes. You can't measure the, I mean, ropes sag and they're affected by humidity and stuff.
Starting point is 02:32:27 And again, it's two inches at 756 feet. That's not that's not you know, that's just taking into account the casings that were removed. Oh, no, it's not. This is just the base perimeter of the pyramid. That's the there's an outline around the pyramid where it was kind of scratched into the ground for where they would they think that they used water and stuff to do leveling And they generally measure around that to my understanding in any Deviation even in millimeters with each rock as you get up to two million three hundred thousand stones to build the peak of the pyramid
Starting point is 02:33:01 Any deviation either side would fuck the whole thing up. Oh, man, it is just virtually perfect not per quite perfect, but it's it is virtually well It's made by humans allegedly or Anunnaki You know the Anunnaki one is the most fun because I love those stories. I love sitz and stuff It's just because it's the the funnest Possibility is that human beings were genetically engineered by a superior race that came here to mine gold. I was telling Jim actually last night that archaeologists frequently refer to the Clovis hypothesis as elegant and I often tell them that this is actually Chris Hitchens stuff
Starting point is 02:33:38 is even more elegant. It explains why we want gold and silver. I mean come on. That's all around the entire world. The gold one is the weird one because you can't make Any tools out of it you can't make weapons out of it and yet it was the most prized Metal and it works really good for me when you get to a higher level of tech all of a sudden It's pretty useful isn't it it's very useful and then there's also the idea of suspending particles in the atmosphere like Chris talks about Right, which is what Bill Gates wants to do today that fucking kook There's a lot of people living here.
Starting point is 02:34:05 You don't get to choose when the shades get put on the earth because you have this goofy climate change narrative. I don't believe you. I don't like that you're even talking about doing this. How about a global vote as whether or not this one asshole created Windows 95 gets to do this? He didn't create anything. He bought the patent, that IBM guy.
Starting point is 02:34:25 I love putting that on blast, because it's like, I think he has, I think he suffers from an inferiority complex. I think that he's jealous of Elon Musk and others. I think he, his time in the line- Well, he famously is short at Tesla. Yeah, and he makes him look like a massive douche. I think that he is, look, he was once the king, the richest man on earth, and now he's not, and I think that that is look he was once the king the richest man on earth and now he's not and I think that that's all
Starting point is 02:34:46 He wants I think again power human power and ego and especially people that have enormous resources and control over things They don't want to relinquish that grip. Yep. Well, yeah, it's like bro. He should be living in an all-inclusive riding jet skis You made it brother. You're you're like Jeff Bezos, right? Yeah Yeah, let's go. Yeah, let's's be happy that's what I want out of my billionaires I want Jeff Bezos so people criticize him like what are you talking about he's living the dream also he's jacked you have a super hot girlfriend he's got a giant yacht fuck yeah flying in the space with fucking Captain Kurt come on I can't figure out why he runs the Washington Post because he owns
Starting point is 02:35:23 the Washington Post change the shit out of it he? Yeah there's a big big to do about it because he released this article that we have to or release a story rather he wrote a piece essentially saying that you have to take divergent viewpoints you have to take a bunch of different perspectives we can't just be this left-wing echo chamber and it's the reason why the business is faltering. I mean all of these I was just reading something about CNN's ratings and MSNBC's ratings post-election they've crashed all these left-wing cooks on YouTube are hemorrhaging subscribers where people go you guys are out of touch you're not accurate you're delusional and people are speaking with their subscriptions,
Starting point is 02:36:07 and they're speaking with their purchasing of the Washington Post, and they're purchasing the New York Times. The New York Times just debunked, in the most insane way, debunked RFK Jr.'s assertion that the ingredients in Froot Loops are different in Canada than they are in the United States. They fact-checked it while saying he was accurate so their fact check it's so dumb when you see the fact I tweeted it does the fact checked is so dumb
Starting point is 02:36:37 because the fact check says it's not correct they have the same ingredients except for these harmful chemicals Mr. Kennedy has singled out fruit loops as an example of a product with too many artificial ingredients Question why the Canadian version has fewer than the US version? But he was wrong the ingredient list is roughly the same Although Canada's has natural colorings made from blueberries and carrots while the US product contains red dye 40 yellow 5 and blue 1 as well as butylated hydroxy to lean or BHT a lab-made chemical that is used for freshness according to the ingredient label that is the fucking dangerous
Starting point is 02:37:20 Chemicals that are banned in Canada that we're trying to get rid of in America and that of our kick that so they're literally saying He was wrong, but he was right. Yeah, that made me that made my brain hurt. Just reading Fucking time well a pootie pie hadn't dressed like a Nazi for a while, so I didn't have anything to talk about right I don't know what that's about What the New York Times is doing so of course course you're going to hemorrhage subscribers. Of course. You're crazy. You're saying something that's nuts.
Starting point is 02:37:52 And also, what is your motivation? What's your motivation for removing potentially harmful and toxic chemicals? If someone is trying to do that for the greater health of the population, if we're saying that these things have been eliminated in other countries because they've been proven to be dangerous, what is your motivation for saying he was wrong? Money. Well, what else could it be? Monsanto, brother.
Starting point is 02:38:20 Ideology, ideology, you know, left wing rejection of rfk jr. Because now he's connected to trump which is connected to nazis It's like you go down this fucking weird rabbit hole with these people like what are you trying to do? Are you trying to remove all leftover credibility? Are you trying to eliminate because you lost so much credibility? Are you trying to kill it all are you secretly working for the Chinese? They're all in doing it's probably backed by Monsanto or something because if you look at like that is crazy What it's to think that the media was once called the fourth estate in this country is mind-boggling Honestly to think that we used to consider them the fourth estate of government that it was like this
Starting point is 02:39:02 Our our father's generation. that's what they considered. Ted Topol, man, they're fucking... Well, what I'm hoping is that what Jeff Bezos has said about the Washington Post, and I know what CNN is considering doing, and they've made some sort of a trend towards a more objective form of journalism, but they're still compromised by the sponsors. They're still compromised by the advertisers. They're so compromised that I don't know if they can ever get to where they really need to be to compete with actual objective real journalists that are independent
Starting point is 02:39:34 because I don't I don't think they can so it's it's kind of crazy it's like they're digging their own grave yep every day and then they're lashing out or all the other people that aren't digging their own grave It's like you guys are insane. So crazy. They're doing it to themselves and now it's like what is it citizen journalists? How did Elon Musk put it? It's like you are now the journalist or how I'm Misquoting him but X is mainstream media now. That is the mainstream media That's where most people are getting their news now the views speak for itself, you know, it's not just the views It's the community notes. The fact that you can actually fact check these things and then you have all these brilliant
Starting point is 02:40:09 people that are participating in this live debate in real time online about what's real and what's not. And you're finding all, specifically with the like the when they found the Twitter files, they're like Jesus Christ the FBI is involved in this? Like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. This is so crazy. The FBI's involved in deciding what's real and what's not on Twitter? Unreal.
Starting point is 02:40:34 And you're banning journalists? You're banning scientists? Like, this is really crazy. Yeah, and it's bad for society. It's terrible. It's caused irreparable harm with misinformation. But it cannot. So it's bad for society, but you know it's caused irreparable harm with misinformation. It cannot So it's bad initially, but then ultimately it's good Because ultimately we learn who you can and can't trust
Starting point is 02:40:54 And you said well who's just honest and accurate because there's a lot of money in being honest and accurate Yeah, you know this is what's crazy like all these independent journalists are doing really well Well because they don't have a fucking giant building in Atlanta that's filled with a thousand workers. Right? So they don't have the overhead for terrible ratings. Terrible ratings and a massive overhead. You're kind of fucked.
Starting point is 02:41:15 So it's great for us that it leads to the rise of these guys like Matt Taibbi that used to be a part of the system and now are independent. Glenn Greenwald, all these type of people. Michael Schellenberger, people that you can actually trust they're gonna tell you the truth because there's actually money in telling the truth Yes, it's a great business model It's course corrected and your proof of it and all these other people, you know, whether it's Tucker Carlson and many many others Yep. Yeah There is a course correction and the problem is there they've dug their heels in so much and they'll write articles like that
Starting point is 02:41:48 New York Times article There's so crazy. They updated it. Oh, congratulations. They changed the word wording a little bit. Here's the here's what it looked like They changed it they got busted because it got like 10 million views on Blasted it got blasted everywhere. Well, that's why I kind of double things So this is what they said here Why do we have fruitless in this country that have 18 or 19 ingredients you go to Canada as two or three? Mr. Kennedy asked he was wrong the ingredient count. They are roughly the same But they're still they're still missing the whole fucking point. So the ingredient count is roughly the same
Starting point is 02:42:27 So there's still 19 ingredients in the Canadian version But it's all just like sugar and wheat and like carrot dye and blueberry dye and whatever the fuck else They have they found a factual error that they could pull out instead of addressing right of what he was saying He let me know what he's saying is that all these things these dyes are all illegal in Canada and also illegal in other countries It's poison cereal is one of the worst things you can consume But I wonder if it's just as delicious in Canada, which is crazy like I don't need it to be flavored or colored by Fucking dye when you can get it from beets or whatever Yeah, the diet the dye things crazy the red dye 40 is actually kind of a big problem by fucking die when you can get it from beats or whatever. Yeah the die thing's crazy. The
Starting point is 02:43:07 red die 40 is actually kind of a big problem. There's a lot of kids that have like ADD kind of symptoms from red die 40. Well I mean if you're left alone to your own devices in your child like I was, you would just fucking pour a bowl out of a bowl of that cereal until you explode. You know I would eat fucking Captain Crunch until I had a fucking heart attack Eating just the marshmallows This is bullshit. Where's the marshmallows Saturday morning cartoons? Yeah? Oh my god. Yeah, you're getting cracked out to bowl Winkle Oh, yeah, and you're eating bowls that sure I yeah I mean we didn't even know the sugar was bad for you because again another fucking conspiracy that turned out to be true
Starting point is 02:43:48 The scientists got bribed by the sugar industry to push on the blame cholesterol saturated fat Yeah, that's why everybody started using margarine and all this stupid shit. It's all eat some plastic I love this also, you know if you leave margarine out rats don't even eat it I was about to say that you'll see and so we'll be eating natural butter, but they if you leave margarine out, rats don't even eat it. I was about to say that. You'll see ants that will be eating natural butter, but they won't touch margarine. Yeah, they eat each other. They don't fuck with margarine.
Starting point is 02:44:10 Like what is that? Something to be said for that. It's glue. It's chemical. It's industrial oil. Yeah. It's like really weird. It used to be used for engine lubricant. Like whoa, this is great on toast. We're so stupid.
Starting point is 02:44:24 We're so fucking stupid. It's wild when you think about it. The things that we will do, like the Milligram experiment I mentioned before, the experiment they did back after the everybody was wondering here in the states why the Nazis were able to convince rank and file normal people to do fucked up stuff. So they got guys in a lab coat and they had an actor pretend he was getting shocked as a test subject, but the real test subject was the guy they had quote unquote shocking that guy and the guy in the lab coat to keep telling him to do it more. And they found about 30% of the people if they were told would shock them all the way up to killing the guy.
Starting point is 02:44:57 And that kind of appeal to authority, that kind of worshiping of authority has really they're gutting it right now and they're paying the price. Well, it's just dangerous because authority has a massive responsibility to be accurate. And with that comes humility and the understanding that we don't know everything. It's not possible, which is why we're constantly studying things. And this need to be accurate and need to be correct and they need to be the only one who has access to this information to educate people is preposterous. It's
Starting point is 02:45:30 really crazy especially when it comes to something like ancient history which is why your channel is so popular and your channel and Graham Hancock shows are so popular and why these people that want to hold on to that throne are so adamant about labeling them with every possible horrible pejorative. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's a really easy way to get them out. Like I said, they're losing authority right now, like we're talking about.
Starting point is 02:45:54 We're talking about mainstream media or legacy media. I guess you could call it falling apart and stuff. What I mentioned about PewDiePie earlier, if you remember about 10 years ago, the ad apocalypse, that was, I think it was actually a Wall Street Journal article, but it was a legacy media that wrote about PewDiePie and they fucking like threw him under the bus. They like misconstrued him and everything else and the effects were very real. It slapped YouTube content creators across the board. If you look up adpocalypse, you can read all about it.
Starting point is 02:46:19 Well, they've actually dropped some of the bans on X now, which is great. Which is, I think, a sign of the culture shifting also after the election there's a lot of realizing that there's there's actually a lot of money in advertising there like what do you fuck retarded right everybody's there it's the number one platform on earth for people discussing things it's the future you advertise there because you're trying to you're trying to bleed that guy out but you fuck with the wrong dude crazy he's got more money than anybody and he's like, I don't care. I'm buying it For twice what it's worth. No, like Twitter has lost 20 billion dollars in value. He's a terrible businessman. No, he overpaid
Starting point is 02:46:57 overpaid Substantially try to save free free speech. Yeah, it just was not this was what you would call an activist investment Well, he's just a rare cat who's willing to do something like that There's not a lot of people that are willing to like lose billions on some but when you got 200 billion You know, like let's fucking shift this apple cart. I'm so glad he's on the right side of history That guy's a hero. He's a living hero and X is the future that is gonna be the biggest platform on earth. That's his goal, right? It's yeah Well, it certainly already is and probably will grow.
Starting point is 02:47:27 And they keep saying people are going to Blue Sky. Do you know if you go to Blue Sky and you type, there's only two genders, you're banned instantly? Yes, I saw this recently. You really? Oh my God. Blue Sky is just the newest echo chamber of the old Twitter.
Starting point is 02:47:38 There's all kinds of people on- I saw these Stephen King dorks. They're gonna go over there and let their brains rot out in an echo chamber. I've been picking on all of my friends in the real world that were laughing at I forget the name of the Site that rumble when everybody was like all the right-wingers are going to rumble. Ha ha ha ha now It's like it all you guys are running the blue sky. Ha ha ha ha isn't it fucking funny how that works? Rumbles been so good to me. Let me give Chris Pavlovsky a shout out, the CEO of Rumble.
Starting point is 02:48:06 I had the pleasure of meeting him, and they've been treating me real good. Rumble's great. Yeah, they're fantastic. Full on free speech, whether you're on the left or the right, whatever it is. Anything I want, anything I want within, as long as it's not violence or something like that.
Starting point is 02:48:19 Right, of course. Yeah, so I recommend people. Everything that's legal, which is what it's supposed to be, and that's what the First Amendment is supposed to Apply to and this is one of the great things about this administration That's coming in is that Donald Trump wants to apply the First Amendment to all these sites He wants to stop all this big tech banning which is by the way was terrible for him in 2020 I mean it really it's election interference. It truly is because you're you're
Starting point is 02:48:44 Eliminating one complete side of the argument. It's supposed to be one side thinks this, the other side thinks that, they get together and discuss it and you as the person outside of it gets to see who makes the more compelling argument. And the wonderful thing about community notes is you get to see whether or not someone's bullshitting. So let's find out what's right and what's wrong, what's true, what's not. That's what it's supposed to be. But the problem with that is then you don't really have control of the election.
Starting point is 02:49:14 And that's what they found out in 2024. They don't have control of it anymore. And you can get Beyonce and pay her $10 million. It doesn't fucking work. It doesn't work anymore. No one cares. No one believes them. They don't trust them. They make terrible life choices and you're like well clearly you're not a person I'm gonna listen to when it comes to who's gonna run the fucking world Taylor Swift right this is crazy Eminem what
Starting point is 02:49:35 are you talking about how much have you locked I mean I want to sit Eminem down with like a political scholar and like tell me what you know about the invasion of Ukraine what do you know about the coup in 2014 what do you know about NATO moving weapons closer and closer what do you know about the invasion of Ukraine. What do you know about the coup in 2014? What do you know about NATO? Closer and closer. What do you know about the violation of the treaty that we have? What the fuck are you doing, man? You shouldn't be doing this. This is not the thing for you to be doing here. These people have no idea what they're talking about They're all puppets They're all they're people that don't do any research on their own and they're just told what to think or they're compromised Well, I think they were getting paid and I think that's what's even weirder
Starting point is 02:50:08 Is that you're allowed to pay people to endorse you for president, which is crazy Yeah Oprah two and a half million not a million. They thought it now it's two and a half million I sent that to Jamie, but that seems to be like production costs would seem at least slightly elevated for an event But the weird one was like the Beyonce one. If it's true, and there's a lot of sites reporting it as it is true, but we tried to look, Jamie, look, it's hard to find what's true and what's not true because there's a lot of money that was paid to staff, but it's like unclear what that means. And then it's unclear where they burned all the money.
Starting point is 02:50:43 And then there's also the money that went to these activist groups. And we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars they paid to people to support this administration. Which is kind of supposed to be the other way around. Aren't these groups supposed to be paying money to prop up the campaign because the campaign believes in them? No, you're paying these activist groups to support you, which is just crazy. Also, it didn't work. It didn't work at all.
Starting point is 02:51:10 So, like, you went through a billion-plus dollars in three months. This is so crazy. And you're in debt. I think, and I think a lot of people made some money in the process. That money went somewhere. Where is it now? That's part of the problem with climate change. That's part of the problem with everything, is that it's profitable to spit out a narrative. And that there's a lot of money being moved around,
Starting point is 02:51:31 and this is money in politics. And as much as we can get that out, we need to. And I think one of the most important things about getting that out is this whole thing about pharmaceutical drug companies being able to advertise, which changed in the 1990s. We have to recognize that before the 1990s, pharmaceutical drugs could not advertise on TV and guess what?
Starting point is 02:51:51 We were taking way less and we were way healthier. No, this is not good folks. This is not good. You know, and other than ozempic, which is like at least curbing obesity to a certain extent, What are these drugs are doing good? Like, if you look at the overall health of people, it's declining. Obesity is rising. Heart attacks are rising. Strokes are rising. Oh, this shit is bad. We're not moving in the right direction. And yet there's tremendous resistance for change.
Starting point is 02:52:23 But it's funny to me that they would spend so much money on this election when I mean it's kind of clear that when one person's platform is do this this this this and this the other person's platform is not him. I mean that's like you know that's like riding somebody else's coattails deliberately. She came in with the platform, I'm not Trump. So okay, well, that's great. But once people have pierced through the veil of Trump's gonna make everything illegal and put everybody that's not wide into camps and shit, once they've got past that, what do
Starting point is 02:52:57 you have? Well, it's also, if you're gonna develop a real platform, you're gonna run for president, I would think you would want to do that over a long period of time and be very careful about treat it like a defense attorney. Like if you were prosecuting this as a case you would want to have all of your facts that show that you're correct and have all of your arguments and you would want to have mock arguments. If someone comes to you and says what about this, this, and this. That's not the case and this is why that's not the case and you would want to have all your ducks in a row
Starting point is 02:53:28 To me it's like a fighter that takes a last-minute fight and they've been sitting around drinking beer and they haven't gone through a Ten-week camp like don't do it. Don't do it. You're not ready for this Right, and if your only strategy is just like a wild punch, which is basically he's a liar like meanwhile You're lying about him every fucking day the Russia collusion shit the very fine people shit the fucking all the thing about you know the thing about Taking Liz Cheney and executing her that's all lies You write you guys just lying and you're saying he's a liar But yet you're lying all the time and you're doing it like it's 1995 and there's no social media But you can't do that anymore, especially when the people that are paying attention to the podcast
Starting point is 02:54:15 well guess what podcasts are a hundred times bigger than anything you guys have and People listening to that and they know you're full of shit and then your numbers decline even further Yep, so I think they were saying that CNN people listening to that and they know you're full of shit and then your numbers decline even further. Yep. So I think they were saying that CNN, what are the, what's, how much is CNN down? Because I was seeing this on Twitter and it's hard to know whether or not they're, you know, it's hyperbole or whether or not it's fact. But they were saying that CNN's ratings are down like 80% of their peak and MSNBC is some other preposterous number and they're both on the chopping block.
Starting point is 02:54:44 CNN is talking about mass layoffs of talent because nobody believes them anymore. So it's counterproductive for you to use the same voices, which is why they got rid of Brian Stelter and then they brought him back. Which was so odd. I'm like, you know, I'm looking forward to- How much talent is missing?
Starting point is 02:55:01 I mean, they don't have any talent. They're all going out of business. They're gonna have to rebrand. They're gonna have to get entire new management. Like I'll they don't have any talent. They're all going out of business They're gonna have to rebrand they're gonna have to get entire new management Like I'll never watch those programs ever again those networks literally never like they're dead to me now. It's propaganda It's at least a percentage of it is propaganda. That's unacceptable. That's unacceptable If you're the voice of the news in the world It's unacceptable for you to have a large percentage of what you're saying to be completely full of shit You know, it's funny
Starting point is 02:55:26 You can see the the same pattern of attack that they throw at Trump being used against Tulsi Gabbard the last time around when she fucking nailed Kamala in the debate and she was just like you you can stay here and Say all cops are bad But you got hundreds of thousands of people in jail and prison leftist viewers deal deal NBC, CNN, a Trump slump ratings crash. Here's why. So what's the numbers? What does it say? Does it say?
Starting point is 02:55:50 The Rachel Maddow Show, for example, easily MSNBC's top rated program, though it only airs once a week, drew just 1.3 million viewers on November 10th. Five days after the election, a drop of one million viewers from the month before. In the key 25 to 54 demographic, the advertisers most covet, Maddow's numbers marked the smallest audience since her show has seen, her show has seen since April of 2022. And she's the number one show, which is like, you know, if I only got a million people watch her show, I'd be so pissed. Hannity nearly quadrupled her with 420,000 views to her meager 109,000.
Starting point is 02:56:27 She got 109,000 people in the 25 to 54. So it's a bunch of old cat ladies. And airports. Yeah, and airports. Right. Outside of Mato, MSNBC has seen an unprecedented plunge. This is really bad news. And what is that?
Starting point is 02:56:44 For example, on Tuesday, November 11th, week after the elections MSNBC attracted its lowest 25 to 54 demo ratings in 23 years over on CNN. The demo number was the lowest it has been since June 27th 2000 when Bill Clinton was president for the overall week of November 6 through 13 Fox News averaged 2.23 billion views while MSNBC attracted a paltry 550,000 and CNN just 399,000. Think about how much money is being pumped into CNN. So go scroll back up a little bit. In fact Fox News saw its viewership jump by 38% overall since November 5th after dominating election night by topping all networks drawing more than 10 million viewers.
Starting point is 02:57:29 It's so bad that MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and Mika, how do you say her name, crawled to Mar-a-Lago on Friday to kiss Trump's ring drawing scorn for their utter shamelessness after years of on-air attacks. You know, real quick, let me just, you know what they're not including is that on Rumble, Dan Bongino and Stephen Crowder had the number one and number two ratings on all of election night. So they're not, they're just mentioning mainstream networks. They're leaving out the fact that... What did Dan Bongino have?
Starting point is 02:57:59 He had over half a million real-time viewers live and same with Stephen Crowder. they were very comparable. They were the number one and number two platforms in the world. Really? So what did CNN have at that night? I can't, I'm not entirely sure, but it was way less. It was way less. No.
Starting point is 02:58:17 Yeah? That can't be. Look it up. I would agree that online they probably had the highest, but to compare the world watching CNN and Fox News and MSNBC that night was less than 500,000 is maybe what it is online streaming I'm referring to must be because we didn't just say Fox News had the highest ratings there were 5.5 million have anything to do with online That's okay. I'm like the 25 to 54 year old school just be people like I turn on TV
Starting point is 02:58:40 I was watching so they dominated it online. Okay, okay, so either way. This is what happened after 2016 as well you know like when they're or after 2020 rather once he's out of office You can't complain about Trump anymore your ratings crash like your entire your entire business is operated on fear Yeah, oh the orange man and hatred. I mean this be real. There's a lot of people just tune in just to get angry Oh, I hate them like enjoy read just a laugh. I was blazed watch that lady like what the fuck? Like what she's talking about like she spent an entire part of her program comparing Trump to Stalin Hitler and Mussolini In MSNBC compared the rally in Madison Square Garden to the Nazi rally from the 1930s Oh, oh, oh well they were all the same you know I performed in Madison Square Garden to the Nazi rally from the 1930s. Oh
Starting point is 02:59:30 Well, they were all the same, you know, I performed in Madison Square Garden. So that must mean me a Nazi as well Yeah, you know obviously when I had a show there Yeah, I was telling jokes and you just had a guy on your show talking about the swastika on five continents around the world 10,000 years ago Nazi stuff. I know Let me just say this that's more Nazi. I encourage everyone to go watch everyone go watch ancient apocalypse. It's great man cooks on Netflix. Think for yourself But one last thing to mention about that is that even John Hoops had compared ancient apocalypse. He associated it with Sandy Hook Yeah, I'm not and this was a what a week ago two weeks ago. Yeah disgusting He's talking about the archaeology is a
Starting point is 03:00:05 canary in the coal mine and you can tell that because you see this horrible thing happened before 9-eleven and therefore they're connected and Sandy Hook happened before right around the same time as the 2012 thing ergo it's just like dude you know Alex Jones could give you some advice here buddy you're gonna get fucking sued shut your mouth about Sandy Hook man come on it's all the same thing that they do let's say same thing the Flint devil did you know connecting it to white supremacy Atlantis to whites oh Atlantis we're out three hours plus in but I would feel like we cheated the
Starting point is 03:00:38 world all right talk about the reshot structure let's do. I love your video and I saw, I don't understand Randall's reluctance to accept this as a possibility. It's very fascinating because there's so many details in your video that details the reshot structure which is an incredibly strange structure. If it's not man-made and if it wasn't at one point in time, it's some sort of a structure that was made by human beings. It doesn't need to be. So this is one of the things that Randall says, well, it's a natural feature so it can't be Atlantis. I'm like, well, who built Atlantis? He said it was the god Poseidon. Well, was Poseidon an actual individual? Because if you look at the ancient Greek translation, Poseidon, it's Lord of the Earth, which I think is a modern-day translation for Mother
Starting point is 03:01:29 Nature. And humans have built on natural geological features throughout history. If you were to bring up the Rishat structure from space, it's like no other place on Earth. It is a mysterious site. The best, the consensus is that it's volcanic in nature and is a collapsed volcanic dome, but it doesn't match anything else anywhere else on earth as far as volcanic domes go. It matches more than a dozen similarities of the most, let me say this, the most consequential similarities to what Plato had described as a lost ancient city of Atlantis. And it's made up of concentric circles. If it had water, it specifically matches three of water and two of land. It's made up of redric circles. If it had water, it specifically matches three of water
Starting point is 03:02:05 and two of land. It's made up of red, black, white color stones. There's an abundance of gold in Mauritania. Elephants, which were described to being on Atlantis. You won't find gold or elephants in the Azores like Randall promotes. It also has an opening at the south, which matches the description of Atlantis.
Starting point is 03:02:21 There's mountains to the north, which just so happen to be called the Atlas Mountains, which are in modern-day Morocco. Well, Atlas, which is a very unique name, was said to be the very first king of Atlantis, which also happens to be the name of the very first king in Mauritania, which is where the Rishat structure is located. It's also covered in salt. Yes, water was there. And, Owen, there's another similarity, is that Atlantis was said on those mountains that were said to be to the north, which are, again, happened to be named the Atlas Mountains.
Starting point is 03:02:50 Well, there was a river that was said to be flowing from those mountains. And there's a scientific study that say that Taman Riset River flowed at the exact time of Atlantis 11,600 years ago, either right through the Rishat structure or directly north of it, and those are just a handful of similarities. It is by far the most likely location of the lost ancient city of Atlantis. Nothing can be concluded either way, but it is something that should not be ignored. Pete It's certainly really fascinating. Jared It is. Pete Just the fact that there's these concentric rings that match the description of Atlantis, and it's in the same spot. And it's in the, it's in the mountains are in the same spot. The opening is in the same spot. I mean,
Starting point is 03:03:30 look at that, whatever that is, it's really weird. If you would imagine a city like Atlantis and what the way it was described, that seems a very likely spot for it. And let me tell you something else. A lot of people say, well, it's not an island, so it couldn't possibly be Atlantis. But what they leave out is the fact that the ancient Greek word for island was nessos and nesson, which had five meanings, one of which was island, the other was promontory peninsula, as well as land within a continent surrounded by lakes, rivers or springs, which matches the Rishat structure. So it's like, you know, a lot of people, and let me also say this, because a lot of people, and I think all areas should be studied, I'm not debunking the
Starting point is 03:04:07 Azores. However, the fact that it's in the Sahara Desert, and that the Egyptians are the ones that came up with the tale of Atlantis, that's where it originates from, which surprises a lot of people. Well, Egypt's in the Sahara, and so is the Rishat structure. And at the time of Atlantis, the Sahara was green. It had one of the largest networks of rivers ever known to exist, as well as the largest freshwater lake. And so if they were, if the Egyptians were colonists of a destroyed civilization, it's not unreasonable
Starting point is 03:04:37 to say that it was in the Sahara. And let me say something else. If Atlantis was described as being busy all day and all night and was a trading post, does it make sense to be in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean or is it far more feasible that it would be in the Sahara Desert, which wasn't a desert at the time? Because if it was said to be busy all day and all night with languages spoken from all over, where are all these people coming from in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean to go
Starting point is 03:05:03 visit it? It makes far more sense that it would be in that portion, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean to go visit it? It makes far more sense that it would be in that portion, in that region of the world. How much work has been done excavating? None. Zero. Almost nothing, yes. It is.
Starting point is 03:05:16 There's gold in the Mauritanian desert and they don't want anyone touching it. It's a dangerous place to go. It's very inhospitable. It's 250 miles inland and it is, I know people who have gone out there, and it is a dangerous, inhospitable. It's 250 miles inland and it is I know people that have gone out there and it is a dangerous Inhospitable place. There's no water. It is it's hard to get to you get all the money in the world. You can still die out there Yeah, it's it's not just hard to get to but not just inhospitable It's kind of war-torn kind of fucked up kind of the kind of place where you're not going to have to worry about somebody playing a tourist trick on you, they're just going to take your shit.
Starting point is 03:05:47 Right. Right. Right. It's a lot of reasons that people aren't going there. But it's really interesting, even to me, where I'm a lot more skeptical. So I do believe in a lost civilization. And I think that, I think it's really interesting to find so many of those same things in the same way. It's just uncanny. Like Jim says, when it's just a stone's throw away from Egypt
Starting point is 03:06:08 really, it would make sense that they would have that package, a big chunk of those things so accurately recorded. And to find it right there, it definitely is one of the things I harp about my channel all the time. We we need more honest skeptics this is definitely the kind of thing we need real scientists to go out there and do we don't need guys to knee-jerk and say well you attach it to Atlanta so fuck that noise it can't be we don't need guys to say it's definitely Atlantis but there's nothing to see here we need boots on the ground or kill how the fuck could Atlantis if it really is in Africa be connected to white supremacy let me touch on this one really quick Joe if If I can hit this really fast. It's so stupid. The Africans
Starting point is 03:06:49 are black. Hello. I'm saying the Atlanteans are black. It's black supremacy. This is what John Anthony West said on your show. He said he's like not only did Atlantis exist but they were black. African supremacy. They did it. The way that these guys attach the white supremacy thing is they go back to guys from the 1800s that wrote about Atlantis that had some old school views on race. Now they believed in the biblical races and the way that the biblical races came to be something you'll never find John Hoopes or Flint Dibble tell you because it guts their entire argument. Before the flood, there was one race of humans.
Starting point is 03:07:24 After the flood, there was one race of humans. After the flood, Noah gets drunk, three of his sons are around, one of them picks on him, laughs at him, two other ones don't. The one that picked on him was Ham. The African people were considered to be the Hamites. The Sam, the Semitic people, were in the middle, and then the other one, the Japafites, which which eventually became the Aryans were considered to be the white people that was the European view of race for up until about 150 years ago so 200 years ago a guy writing about Atlantis would not have thought it was an Aryan Atlantis because Aryans didn't invent didn't exist until after Noah it was one of Noah's sons so before the flood there was no Aryans. So anytime somebody says that all this old-school shit believes in Aryans, all you do is scratch
Starting point is 03:08:09 the surface and you'll find that's not the case at all. This guy didn't believe in a white Atlantis. Ignatius Donnelly did not believe in a white Atlantis, despite Flint Dibble making sure to name drop that fucker anytime he gets a chance. But they're going to make sure you think that. They're going to eliminate, because the biblical races are something most people don't know much about listen. Let me just say this one point I don't care what their color their skin was but the legend comes from Egypt and they're fucking brown Don't get fucked with your racist argument. I don't care like anyway Gentlemen, thank you very much. Just been a lot of fun. They really really been fun Jimmy always great to see you Good to see you again. Very nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. Thank you for your channel both of you guys
Starting point is 03:08:48 Fantastic D dunking bright insight awesome channels follow me on X rumble and Instagram. Love you all I'm gonna be at the cosmic summit speaking this summer if you guys want to catch me there I don't know cosmic summit. Yeah, beautiful. Thanks again, Joe. Thanks everybody. Bye. Bye now.

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