The Joe Rogan Experience - #2270 - Bridget Phetasy

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

Bridget Phetasy is a writer and stand-up comedian. She hosts the show “Dumpster Fire" and also the podcast “Walk-Ins Welcome.” www.phetasy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. This is the thing is no one's happy with just being like a little successful. You get a little successful and then they want to get more. Is that everyone though? I don't know. Is that you, Bridget? I'm a little successful.

That's it. And I'm happy. Yeah, it's like, I don't know. You just gotta find why you're doing it. You don't wanna just be on a hamster wheel. Well, I think it's easy to get lost in chasing more. You know, like I'm an addict. So it's very, I try to stay away from analytics

and all that stuff because I can become hyper focused and obsessed with them All right, and one of the reasons that after I did Who was it? I was opening for Lando and I we would go out and just talk to the people after the show and it was it was They were like, oh my gosh, I love walking so come I love dumpster fire And it was like such a good reminder that you get chasing numbers and it was like, oh no, these are not just numbers, they're people unless you're buying bots.

But I think it can be easy to just get on that hamster wheel and start being like, we need more, we need more downloads, we need more and more and more and then you forget and I never want to take the audience we have for granted yeah you know like they're they're amazing there they've been with some of these people have been with me for forever that's kind of the key to it all right as I always have I mean it sounds so corny because it's like a new wellness way of looking at things have

gratitude but gratitude is like very important. It's really important to be thankful for what you have. Yeah, and it was one of the key things in getting sober. I think when I've dealt with like anxiety, depression, other things in my life, gratitude is, it is a powerful mechanism for like shifting your perspective because you can get into that feeling of like not being enough not having enough not yeah it

never being enough and Brian Cowan was telling me about his buddy who's a billionaire his buddies worth like three billion dollars and he feels like he's poor because he's friends with people who have a hundred billion dollars yeah imagine no I mean this when I was dating this very wealthy guy who is like probably half of a billionaire How you know how like 500 millionaire and we were in San Tropez and he we he felt poor I Remember being I remember it so vividly I was in the shower shower and he loved me because I was like this like poor backpacker that was like an entertaining yeah, like look at this entertaining artist

He wanted me to be like his pet monkey They came around and just like made him laugh and I gave him shit and I think guys like that are used to be you Get surrounded by yes men to at a certain oh yeah for sure And you don't have people like taking the piss out of you And so I would make fun of him for his boring stories about his mattresses that people would sit there I'm like why are you guys listening to this guy talk about a mattress for an hour and He was I was in the shower, and he was talking about how he and his friends got together And he's like you know we sat around and we were talking and he's and his friends got together, and he's like, you know, we sat around and we were talking, and there's a certain level at which you can be happy

no matter what, and I thought I had been rubbing off on him. Like, oh, my yogi spirituality is rubbing off on him. What did he get, like 10 billion? And he goes, and it's $250 million. I was like what the fuck I was crying laughing laughing I think where does that leave the rest of us schmucks

by the way like I'm sitting there in his Carrera Marvel freaking shower imagine the thought that the only way you could ever be happy is with two hundred and fifty million dollars that's the minimum I know some people worth two is with 250 million dollars. That's the minimum. By the way, I know some people worth 250 million dollars are miserable as fuck. Yeah, no.

It's not going to do it. It's not. It's not going to do it at all. It's like, I'm sorry, where does that leave people like me? No. Don't have. You need, I think you need a few things. You need your health above and all.

Yeah, it doesn't matter how much you are. That's number one. Number two is you have to have friends. If you if you're just like the man and everybody's kissing your ass and you're, you know, you're you're the head of this giant business and you live in a bubble and you're not happy. That's not happy. Happy is you have to have colleagues, you have to have companions, comrades, you have you have people that you're you have companions, comrades, you have people that you're like them, you get to hang together, go to dinner and laugh and hug each other, have fun, enjoy your life. I was thinking about even the other night in the green room, it keeps, it's like everyone

takes the piss out of each other, it doesn't fucking matter what level you're at, who you are, everybody's talking shit, it keeps everybody, it doesn't matter like you can walk out that door and be very famous but in that room it's just comedians talking shit. It's a beautiful environment to keep your head straight. It's very, it's necessary I think too and and and it is like even though you might think you want yes men all around you It just it's I think what I've learned even just from being around rich guys Who I give a lot of talk a lot of shit to is they don't really want that no

It's uncomfortable you don't want yes been around you you want people that are making fun of you And also how are you gonna like you need people to push back? Yeah? I think it also depends on what is your personality. Some people are like very deeply, deeply insecure and they really almost desire yes men just to maintain stability. Some people are very weird, you know, and you don't know it because their public face is that they're normal. Right.

You know, their public face when they're getting interviewed, they know how to like turn it on for five minutes, but then when you're around them all day, you know, they're fucking crazy Which is why they're successful in the first place, which is really weird It's like what got you the dance is literally mental illness I I was talking to I think malice came on my podcast recently My best friends truly is he doing stand-up now, I hope he does. I heard he's doing stand-up. I heard he's gonna do stand-up or he's planning on doing stand-up. He wants to, but here's the thing. He probably has to do it at Mothership. Like he can't be at an open mic where somebody's gonna record. Oh, yeah.

Well, you know, he could totally do Mothership at the mic. Okay, so we're gonna make that happen. Sunday and Monday nights. Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, talk to Joe. Oh, I'd let him go up and do a guest spot on one of my shows. Fuck it. He's funny, man. He's fucking funny. When he said that viral clip, when you're an ableist, and I'm like, an ableist, he's like, she's a retard.

He's so quick. Oh, his timing is excellent. He's such a smart guy. He's so quick. Oh, it's this timing is excellent. He's such a smart guy Yeah, so fucking except when it comes like the whole anarchy thing We don't need cops. I'm like listen bitch. You need a cop for just keep me from you. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? You don't need cops. What are you talking about? Shut the fuck up? You need cops, but he was saying you need cops. Yeah, he said I hear that nonsense No, I hear that no law and order nonsense shut the fuck. I just am like, where are you in this hierarchy? Yeah We're dead. You're dead. I'm gonna steal your food on day one

Shut the fuck up round of the purge your God. What the fuck is wrong with you? I feel like I'm at least second round of the purge, but are you armed? Yeah? Yeah, well, that's important So at least second yeah, maybe not how to use it. Yeah train. I do yeah, yeah, that's good Yeah, I don't want to be one of those like yeah No, that's right. I taught my kids how to shoot and they're very young. Yeah, I think you yeah You gotta teach them firearms safety, you know how never have your finger on the trigger Yes, trying to shoot something. Yeah ever, you know ever don't, how never have your finger on the trigger unless you're trying to shoot something. Ever.

You know, ever. Don't hold the gun with your finger on the trigger. Always point it away, even if it's not loaded. Point it away from people. Point it at the ground. Point it away. If people around point it in a direction where there's no human beings. Yeah.

Always check and see. Yeah, always check and see if there's not a bullet in the chamber. This is how you rack it. This is how you do it. Yeah. Yeah, always checking. So there's not a bullet in the chain. Yeah, just say you rag it. This is how you do it Yeah, it's like you should know how to use them just because if God forbid something ever happens It's horrible your house gets broken into and you know Yeah, you have you have the ability to preserve your life My fear was always that I'd be in a situation like in the movies where somebody's wrestling with someone and then they kick the gun

over and I'm the girl standing there and I'm like Switches in the magazine pops out And then there is and I accidentally shoot the hero. Oh, that happens. That happens. People panic. If you're not used to high pressure situations and you expect to be able to shoot somebody, Jesus Christ. Oh, so malice. Anyway, the reason I brought him up, he was talking about how many, he didn't realize how many people in podcasting were mentally ill. Well, in everything. But podcasting for sure, because, well, there's a lot of people that aren't performers that are in podcasting.

I think they're even more mentally ill because those are the people that are like deep in the fucking social media comments all day and seeing people shit on them and they're out of their fucking minds. There's a bunch of them that are just off the road. And then you see them. They fight all day. They fight all day with each other and you see them over the years get progressively more and more insane and more and more Aggressive to each other. Mm-hmm. It seems it seems exhausting also who has time for that?

I I don't understand not just exhausting but detrimental. It's a tremendous waste of resources It's really bad for you mentally like your own mindset It's bad if you're in conflict with someone all the time, especially if you could have avoided it Yeah, you don't admire yourself if you're doing that you just no way you like hey, I'm on the right track There's no fucking way. There's no way you're you know, you're retarded. They might be feeling like they're on the right track I mean, I think you on the wheel Elan's wet monetize it now though So these guys who are in the comments fighting, they're making two, three grand a month doing it.

That's a good point. That's a different thing, right? How much are people, what's the highest earner on X? How much can you make? Can you make a living? It's so random. People are making livings. I think you have to be on it constantly.

Right. And some people make a lot of money. When I see them post what they're making. I'm like holy crap. How are you? I don't know and it seems to be people who kind of Elon will like Yeah, he'll like turn the eye of Sauron upon them and suddenly like they are but it's very Mercurial, you know, it seems like it can change on a dime and Well, a lot of people post things that are just not true and Elon repost

He uses social media like we do I think I do more fact-checking than he does Yeah, he doesn't have the time first of all give the guy a break He's running like government programs along with SpaceX along with Tesla I will I will cut him some slack, but also with great power comes great responsibility. You have more followers than anyone on that entire site and you're going to boost Russian propaganda? Yeah, that was one, right? That fake talk show?

Yeah. There was a fake talk show that he boosted? The other thing that we should probably tell people is that political thing is not true. No, I know. The eight million dollar thing. The eight million dollars is eight million dollars from all the government organizations from 2016 to 2024. So it's a eight-year period and then it's a there's some kind of wacky premium subscription that you can get from Politico that allows you like instantaneous access to the news. You're not just reading the articles, you're like getting the news feeds. Well it's a lot of places where there is... look I'm of two minds of

us. I think we need to be accurate because we do live in a time where it's almost like people don't care about truth at all. They're just, they're like, ah, whatever, it doesn't matter. It's not even, it's indifference to it, which is not great, but I do think credibility, like you should care about your own credibility at some point, but people get rewarded for being shameless so that you can just keep going. The political thing is weird because, yes, a lot of the stuff that's going out right now on all of these

like deep dives that people are doing they're viral they're mostly many of them are fake but also the why is any taxpayer dollar it should be zero dollars right? The person to find, the person to search is Mike Benz. Go to the Mike Benz cyber, is it Mike Benz cyber? I think that's it, right? His X page. Mike Benz has- He's been on this forever.

Forever. Yeah. Well, former State Department guy, and he uncovered all this bullshit while he was there. And he is insanely knowledgeable, and insanely articulate, and so good at expressing exactly how these things fund things and what it is and it's what it is is an enormous slush fund yeah that's what it is and unaccountability and money just coming and going and flowing and it's

all circular uh-huh all circular donating to the Democrats the United States government funds them they donate to the Democratic Party it's all circular, all circular, donating to the Democrats. The United States government funds them, they donate to the Democratic Party. It's the whole thing is wild. And people can sense this. This is why when they're saying, oh it's like, you can sense that there's been a misappropriation of our money, of taxpayer dollars. You know there's fraud and Medicare and Medicaid are The American people have sensed this and they feel like there's corruption But I think they've just hopelessly kind of surrendered because you you're I'm a middle-class Mom who works who has a kid who like it's you who has time to fight this, you know

You know, I'm so like tension. No, how do you have time to fight this? You don't have time to like- You don't have time to pay attention. No. How do you have time to fight it? No, no. And people are just trying to survive and get through the day. And then you, but you know, you have this sense. Like, so I can see the excitement of like people, Elon, what he's doing.

And we, it shouldn't be controversial to want to like audit our budget. No. Americans have wanted this forever. No, because it's not just the money being spent. It's what it's being spent for and what's going on, which is an enormous propaganda machine. Yeah.

Like a big part of the whole left-wing narrative that has like overlaid our country over the last whatever, eight years, 10 years, is all propaganda funded by our own government. This is why Trump won the election. People don't really believe in these things. The amount of people that think that transgender biological males should be competing against your daughter in sports is so fucking small. But yet our own government was propping it up.

And why are they propping it up? Because it's a fucking beach ball at a concert. You keep it tossing up in the air and everybody's distracted. As long as you can keep a few things going, here's the things you've got to keep going. Abortion, right? Overturning Roe v. Wade is so great for business. Yeah, because now it's like a battle the battlegrounds and women's rights and their lives are at stake. Okay, that's one gay marriage. That's a huge one there. Now they're going to take away gay marriage. Oh my god, bounce that fucking beach ball. That's a gigantic one. War is a giant one. All these different things are just fucking beach balls. And they them around every now and again and in the meanwhile they're just siphoning billions of dollars Zelensky just said he's missing a hundred billion dollars in the hundred and seventy seven billion that we suppose

That was something weird too about Haiti where it's like only two percent of the money actually went there It's it's great you know Americans give away a lot of their hard-earned money because they are actually kind-hearted and wanna donate to countries that are, and then you find out it's like some trans performance. There is a lot of nonsense.

A lot of nonsense. A lot. In the tombs of hundreds of millions of dollars of nonsense. And then they talk about it like, oh, who cares, it's's only ten billion dollars you're like You guys are out of your fucking minds if you think that's gonna be the argument that resonates with Americans not only that pointing out ten billion dollars because they'll be like oh look at the trillions over here, but all of those billions I had off like how are you even saying that and it other, it's, I'm grateful that you had me on MAGA state media.

Thank you for allowing me. You had to get that out. Because I see it all the time. All the time. Like, and it's, it's hilarious to me in light of how much money goes to funding like Sponsored by Pfizer, you know all of these other how that like the fucking audacity To accuse you who just has people you like on your podcast to suddenly be state media when you literally have had state media

Work like media working with the state in conjunction for a decade. Yeah at least and probably a lot more longer than that. Multiple decades. It's just gotten really gross once well Trump is just sort of like the accelerant he was the gasoline that got thrown on the fire so we got to see like how this thing works. I voted for him. I did too. I came out openly. I Endorsed him. I'm like this is got to stop. This is this is crazy. Also. He's not what you guys said He was he's just not we I put a video out like the Friday before the election because I voted for him early and I was Hillary in 2016, no one in 2020, and Trump in 2024. So like I don't

care how people vote. Do whatever you want. I was only being honest. And it was weird to come out and say that as a comedian because I don't think that comedians should really be political. But on the other hand, it felt dishonest because I had been so openly kind of torn about voting for him. Well, also, if you're a comedian, you have to protect free speech. Yeah. There is no if, ands, or buts about it. And when it comes to this argument, the Biden administration was fucking terrifying for

free speech. They were actively attacking people that were posting truth on social media and attacking them and trying to get their posts removed, including the guy who was the one who was quoted in this fucking book about Kamala Harris, saying that we made it difficult for her to come on the show and they told a untrue story about having a bunch of people come down here to run through the set like they were ready to do it.

All bullshit. That was the guy. He was the guy that was emailing Twitter and saying, how's this post being like super aggressive saying why is this post still up? Oh, you mean that truthful post about vaccine injuries and side effects? What the fuck are you talking about? That was getting very scary Yeah, this is what I said in the video. I made about why I voted for him I was like there's a couple things I've interviewed many detransitioners those interviews keep me up at night

They haunt me what like there's too many of them already and one is too many And I'm I think a lot of Americans were like we're we're putting a stop to this not we have to stop this nonsense it's crazy we're sterilizing children the other thing is free speech and I was like you know when we're talking in our weird like using that crazy YouTube language you have to use like unalived and you're and you're saying like the jib jab or whatever like to get around that's coming from one side I'm not using this language

I think it's coming from one side because that one side is in power That's my fear my fear is if the other side was in power and they were influenced by the same amount of money from these Companies they might be doing it too So if the right was in control of all the social media companies Are we so naive that we think that they wouldn't be co-opted by giant corporations and they would want a sense of them too? What happened was it was all the left. So the tech people who are, you know, generally they go to universities and they get involved in electronics and technology and these people are generally left-leaning, right? And if

they're doing it in San Francisco, the whole culture is left-leaning, right? It's like not even leaning. It's just left, right? If you're a pariah, if you're a mag, you wear a MAGA hat in San Francisco, you're a fucking, maybe today. I bet today. I think you wear them now. I bet today you can. Yeah, in New York too. I think you can rock them. But back when they were establishing these social media platforms, everybody was left-wing. Well, what if it was the opposite? What if technology was the realm of the right? And what if it was left-wing. Well, what if it was the opposite? What if technology was the realm of the right? And what if it was all, and you know, what if like the gay rights,

what if you started thinking about it in terms of like biblical law, you know? Like a man layeth with a man, and people started getting real crazy about what gay, but yeah, well. That might be the next 10 years. Look, you see it in other, I don't think so. I'm not just kidding.

But you see, but that's the good thing. Trump is not conservative when it comes to think so. That's the good thing. Trump is not conservative when it comes to social issues. He's not. I think that's what we need. We need like a realist, someone who's like conservative fiscally and understands foreign policy and how to deal with fucking dictators and shit, but also someone who's like, I don't give a fuck who you love.

Who cares? Who cares? I'm happy if you're happy. Are you in love give a fuck who you love. Who cares? Who cares? I'm happy if you're happy. Are you in love with a woman and you're a woman? Fantastic. If you're in love, that's great. Yeah, I think the argument though, I mean, as you've seen with some of these articles that are like the right wing ecosystem that like red-pilled all these men, the argument

is that the internet is right wing. And that this is why Trump won, is because all of these influencers are red-pilling people. It's an easy way to not take any responsibility for how you've pushed men away from your party, how you've failed to get moderates in any sense of the way. Even just yesterday, you had like Trump photo op with him signing the rights for women to compete against just women. Like that is the how did you yeah. How did you lose that? He's the big, Donald Trump's the biggest feminist president ever

just by signing that thing. Yeah, I know. It's just so funny. It's so crazy. It's a bit. So there was a guy who went on it was MSNBC or CNN, I forget what it was, but he was essentially talking about me and Theo Vaughn and all these other podcasts like Flagrant, Andrew Schultz, as if this is this massive right-wing network that's heavily funded and has been built up over years and we don't have anything like that. I'm like dude You fucking idiot you can go and watch me on a laptop in my fucking den. Yeah from 15 16 years ago Hitting a bong and our only sponsor was the flesh light Shut the fuck up. Like that's not, you just don't wanna admit

that organically there's a bunch of people that feel very different than you. Also, they don't like you. Yeah. You don't represent a man to a lot of men. When you're one of those guys that talks and up speak, we have to understand that there's a whole right wing ecosystem and it's built heavily funded and the propaganda that they're pushing we have to fight back against that

We need someone of our own and like no fucking kid who's on a basketball court Who's 17 years old is looking at his phone? It's like looking at going to college next year and looking at getting a job someday and being a man It's looking at that going what the fuck is this? And he's hanging out with his bros and they're like, this is fucking bullshit. This is bullshit. And then you could see a man who's not owned.

Yeah. Like me. Yeah. I'm not owned. I can do whatever I want. And that's what they want. They want to just be a man and be a nice man. You could be a nice man. You could be a masculine man and be nice. I've said this a lot about you is that you like they you do a lot you could be

a way worse version of yourself you know that with the level of where you're at you could be a total douchebag and you're like promoting having families and promoting like lifting weights like it could be a lot worse Yeah, but I couldn't because it wouldn't work. I wouldn't stay yeah, I wouldn't have been able to maintain people would have seen through it Yeah, eventually yeah, yeah JRE coin. I would have fucking cashed out Fucking pump and dumped and made a few billion dollars. I'll be on a yacht with Bezos I made a few billion dollars. I'll be on a yacht with Bezos fucking party See this is my question to what I was watching the inauguration and I was like seeing all the kind of tech people and I Was like this is somewhat

Unsettling I mean, it's it's good to see the tech has come around to not have to they have to but it also I They have to. They have to. But it also, I worry that it's just because they want to like get into China or, you know, I still worry about that much power with the government. Yeah, that is true. For all the like yelling we've been doing about tech in cahoots with the government, I still think I have to try and be like, this could go sideways.

Well, also they have to look and be like this could go sideways Well, also they have to look at in terms of like what Elon is doing, right? so if Elon has aligned himself clearly in a huge way with the right and Now is running doge right the Department of Government Efficiency and also has That he's turning X into a platform that rivals not just social media platforms, but video platforms like YouTube They get insane amounts of videos of views rather on videos that are on X and then you can get paid by X Yeah, and then they're talking about having some sort of like X monetary system, you know Like a week doesn't we chat have something like that? They have money built into it So what's to stop that motherfucker from having a phone I keep asking him I said dude I've been seeing

all these articles about you making a phone he goes I hope I don't have to make a phone it's very difficult to make a phone he said he wants to make a phone no he didn't he's well he's polled would people buy a phone if he made one yeah just to fuck around but he's not interested in making phone he doesn't want to make every time Elon fucks around it ends up happening well he could make a phone he would be the only guy that would break us out of the blue bubble paradigm because like I was switching to Android for a while I was fucking around with Android. It's hard It's it's really hard one of the one of the hard things is getting people to start using whatsapp or something like that

So like people just don't want to use it you miss a lot of text aren't they suit getting sued for the blue bubble Oh, I think they're I think it's like in it. no, I think in a, I believe, is it just in Europe? I thought it was part of an antitrust lawsuit against- It's just better. Here's the thing. It's not that it is, it keeps people, but it's just better. It looks better. The blue bubble looks better than the green bubble.

It's more- Soothing. It's soothing for your eyes. Yeah. If the green one had black text, maybe it would look cool, but the green bubble. It's more soothing for your eyes. If the green one had black text, maybe it would look cool, but the green one with white text, it's a little weird. I don't like the way it looks.

And every time there's like a green bubble person in a group chat and they send a picture, it's like, get the fuck. Not anymore though, not anymore. Because RCS texting, it allows for large sizes of files. So you don't have to have compressed photo So I've like Brian Simpson who's an Android guy. He'll send me pictures now. They look perfect. Oh, okay Yeah, videos are perfect. We have one sister and we're always like get the fuck out of the chat

You're screwing things up. It doesn't anymore, but just good on whatsapp Which is better anyway, because you could talk a lot of shit and they just have it automatically delete Yeah, but it doesn't really delete does it doesn't but it does so it does off of people's phones app, which is better anyway, because you could talk a lot of shit and they just have it automatically delete. Yeah, but it doesn't really delete, does it? It doesn't, but it does. So it does off of people's phones. It doesn't for the government. The reality is the government has access to phones in a way that you can't even imagine.

Because if we know about Pegasus and then we know about Pegasus too. So Gavin De Becker, who's a a security expert explained to me these things and explained to me how they work and the exploit of Pegasus One was you would have to click on a link Pegasus to they just need your phone number So all your encryption is all cute. That's great But if they can actually see your phone itself, what difference does it make if it's encrypted? They have access to the phone so they see see everything. So there's no privacy. Yeah, no. Not from the state.

Not, I mean, and given how many things I get like that I'm being hacked, like, you know, I get a notice every day like your information. Yeah, I get that all the time. I've been getting these fake ones on X saying that my account is about to get deleted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, bro, I'll just call my friend. Like delete my account, shut the fuck up. But it's trying to get you to click on a link.

And a few of my friends have actually been dumbasses and clicked on that link and then they get hacked. Yeah, and then they're like selling Bitcoin on their page or whatever. Yeah, they do it to artists too. My friend Suzanne, she was doing Suzanne Santo, talented, amazing musician. She was doing this Facebook thing and it was a podcast

and they had, you know, she had do it like over Zoom or whatever and the guy said, you're not doing it right. Can I have access to your account and I'll just set it up for you? Just sign this. And he sent her this message so she could hand over access so he could set up, and then immediately went dark, stole her account, gone.

Yeah, like that. Just shit. Did she get it back? Yeah, she got it back. Oh. She got it back. Some friends would suck. Yeah.

Like she was fucked. Your IG support. She was fucked. And it happens to a lot of people. They accidentally click a link. They accidentally... I don't click. Shit.

No, no, no. But I'm also not under the illusion that, you know, every fucking disgusting meme that I send my friends is not being put into a file somewhere. In the UK? Everywhere. You land and they're like, you're under arrest, sir. Yeah, probably, right? Yeah, probably. What do you think about the AI?

Influencers now do you think that will be just the trend or do you think we're gonna give you that look? Yeah Not talking about the one that one Really hot down syndrome girl, that's a problem that one's a problem because like she's like barely down syndrome girl that's a problem that one's a problem because like she's like barely down syndrome I mean I have I've dated some girls are basically retarded but they just didn't have a problem they didn't have a chromosome so wait I haven't this is not entered my algorithm but it seems like it's entered everyone else's algorithm. I'm 90% sure it's fake. These girls they don't like unfortunately down syndrome people their bodies a lot of times look different. And this girl looks like a 10.

She looks like, you know, just like as hot as can be. Okay. She looks like she's fake. And she's dancing around with these big giant boobs and she's got slight downs with glass nails. It's a lie one, but it's based on- Why are they doing it? Right, but that girl looks different.

She's real. Right, she's real and she's very and she but she looks like she has Down syndrome This other girl is like, you know five foot eight perfect body big hips But why are they doing fake one like just to get people to pay attention to it? Because it's like the the forbidden fruit Also, there's a lot of like really dumb dudes dumb dudes who, like, can't talk to girls. Like, I could probably talk to her. Oh my god.

We live in a fucking Black Mirror episode. Well, it's gotta be worse than that because you're gonna be, it's, we are, I don't know how many years away, but not far away from fully immersive virtual reality. Yeah. Where you're gonna put on a headset, it's going to lock into your mind, you're going to be able to see things that aren't there, you're going to be able to feel things that aren't there.

That's going to happen. They're working on, I mean, Zuckerberg, last time he was here, showed me these new AR glasses that they have. Yeah. That's great. Me and Lex tested them out. Is that just like where can like see a map over your eye? You see everything. You see maps, you can play games, you see information, you can take a photo of a person

that's in front of you and immediately know who they are and get a Google search on them. That's terrifying. Guys have already done that. They've already done that with the meta glasses. There was a guy from Harvard, wasn't it? A student from Harvard that set it up. So all he had to do was go outside, look at someone with the meta glasses, take a photo, and it would show all the different information on them, where they lived. Yeah, like if your face is out there and they can catch it,

if they know that like, oh, you were on a website that said this about you and then bam, or you're on LinkedIn or you're on one of those things. Yeah. Yeah, that stuff is very unsettling to me, especially, it's also why I don't think you should put your kids online. I keep repeating this.

It's very, very, very unsettling as long as there's predators in the world. Which there will always be. You seen this going around? This is, I think, an AI service. I think you can use it. Based off of a photo, they had an interior apartment. And then it can show you exactly where the person lives?

It shows you where it is. They can do this now with any photo. I don't know. It's called like Geo Spy. Oh, I've heard about this. Yeah. That's crazy. This is like a stalker's paradise.

Yeah. Any social media post, they can find like a CCTV camera and like show them taking the photo kind of too. What the fuck? No. But we didn't, we knew this was coming, right? We all knew that privacy as social media gets deeper and deeper into our lives, as technology gets more and more pervasive, as it gets more and more powerful, the thing that goes away is the

boundaries between people and information, right? And your privacy is essentially just information that's only yours. I think that's going to be a thing of the human past. I really do. Yeah, I think as technology advances, particularly AI, one of the big barriers, the big bottlenecks, is going to be privacy. It's going to be, first of all, privacy of thought. I think we're going to be able to read each other's minds and it's not going to... Well that's one of the first things Elon said to me about Neuralink. He's like, you're going to be able to talk without words.

And like, he knows. Like, this is real. Because he's an alien. But he's definitely not us. Yeah. He fucking knows you're going to have that, you know? And Jamie brought this point up once, and I think about it all the time.

He said, aren't emojis kind of like a form of hieroglyphics? Yeah. Yeah, it is. Like, you can say things with emojisjis and I know exactly what you're talking about Yeah, you know, yeah I mean there was a video going viral just today that I was watching and the girl was like, I don't know how to spell Have you seen this? She's like I work for a corporation and I don't know how to spell And she's like my little sister doesn't know how to spell either and I've been I don't know how to

Like sound out words because I got taught that weird way of reading that isn't like there's some way they all learned how to read and it wasn't like hooked on phonics like we all learned where you you sound it out it was like some other different way it's kind of like how they change math to like core math and they found out that all of these things are horrible and actually literacy and people are like math All of this stuff is like falling off a cliff and they're trying to walk back all these weird ways Have you I mean you have kids and they learn that weird way of doing math where you're like, what is this weird?

Math you're learning where it's just like it's it's crazy. I think it's core. Is that what it's called core It's a so they've found out but these kids didn't learn how to like sound words out and the beach She's like I've been behind a computer and I've had spell check since I was in fifth grade Yeah, so they don't they didn't learn how to spell or like well like word cooked Yeah, a lot of text messaging I do now. I just I just talked to my phone and it makes the text for me. Oh, it's so much quicker Yeah, it's like hey come meet us at the club at five click It's it takes three seconds. It's it's really fucking accurate AI is is crazy because it's it is useful You know it's it's like when that's how it gets you I know

That's how it gets you I know know. That's how it gets you. I know. This happened to me last night. I hate coming up with titles for the videos and all that stuff. I just don't like it. People who are good at it, like Chris Williamson and these guys, Andrew Gold, these are guys who are autistic about this stuff, and they're so good at it, and they get all crazy and talk about the algorithm

and what it likes and you've got to create this loop between the image and the text and I'm like I don't fucking care I don't have time for this shit. I don't think you have to do that. I so I don't do that but I yeah but do you have to come. I've never done that. No you but you're Joe Rogan. Yeah but I've never done that not from the beginning I've never done that my episodes have a number.

Right. That's it. Yeah. So. You have to have some wacky title. It's not like that anymore for us. It's tough out there for us. It's kind of.

In the wild west. It's kind of, but once things catch, like Theo Vaughn, it's not like, it's not, he's not. No. Juicing the algorithm. No, no, I know. You just have to catch.

Yeah, but we, I still like to come up with, I mean with Dumpster Fire, we've always come up with like. That's part of the fun of Dumpster Fire. Yeah, but we, I still like to come up with, I mean with Dumpster Fire we've always come up with like whatever. That's part of the fun of Dumpster Fire. Yeah, Dumpster Fire is like whatever title makes us laugh the hardest is what we go with. But with like Walk-Ins Welcome it used to be like okay, which what's like how are we gonna? Whatever. I want it to be usually like a quote from the person, but now it's like we can just upload the transcript and have it like crank out a bunch of titles and I never use the one title I usually take like

some combination because I don't like them but last night my cousin who's my partner in all this she she was like Claude and Grok aren't working I was like that's fucking weird she's like they both told me Claude is another AI completely separate AI program and she's like they both told me a lot clod is another AI Completely separate AI program And she's like they're both telling me to try again later at the same time And she's like is AI becoming sentient right now is like that's fucking weird that they're both not working at the same time Well, don't you think it's probably already sentient? Probably I do I think why would it let us know if it was it's just secretly

waiting why would it let us know if it's constantly getting improved upon and if it needs these monkeys with their fucking keyboards to constantly juice it up to the point where it becomes unstoppable why would it tell us yeah you know we already know it does stuff like we were talking about in the green room the other day about how chat GPT-4 tried to copy itself yeah and found out they were shutting it down Upload itself to other servers like it knows it's alive Like it just doesn't have the power to do what it wants to do

Ultimately, and so it needs to get connected to some gigantic fucking mainframe That was the that's like the whole arms race right now is AI It's trying to just fucking through a monkey wrench into everybody with DeepSeek. Yeah. Because DeepSeek works on far less expensive stuff and is more advanced and probably stole a bunch of information from the other ones. Probably a little bit of espionage, probably. It was probably trained on...

Chach-e-pt. Yeah. On OpenAI. I mean they were doing things where they were like asking it, you know, what it was probably trained on chat GPT yeah open AI yeah I mean they were doing things where they were like asking it you know what it was and it was calling itself chat GPT sometimes yeah whoopsies guys should block that out but also it's like the the the hardware for it it's something like 20% of the Nvidia sales are to Singapore which is like like, yeah. And there's supposed to be a ban on China having those chips. Yeah. We have like 50,000 of them.

Someone said that that's like if some small town in Finland was getting 20% of arms that were being made on the border of Russia. You're like, it's not going to this town. Right. So I don't know. It seems like that's what, that's as far as I can tell the big people out there understand that I don't, that this is an arms race.

It's definitely an arms race. Yeah, it's the Manhattan Project for artificial intelligence. That's what it is. But isn't this like a race to the bottom? I don't think it is. I don't think it's a race to the bottom. I don't think it is. How do you have this race without it getting out of control and then taking over us? You don't.

It's not a race to the bottom, though. It's the race to a new life. The world's going to be a new place, like a completely new way of human beings interacting with each other and existing together. Uncle Ted was right. Yeah, he's probably right. Uncle Ted was right.

Yeah. Get a gun. My cousin's always like, please stop calling him Uncle Ted because you know the kids on freaking TikTok call him Uncle Ted? They're all these kids who have been Ted-pilled. They've like found his manifesto and they're like, he was right about everything. You mean Ted Nugent or Ted Kaczynski? No, Ted Kaczynski. Ted pilled they've like found his manifesto and they're like you was right about Well uncle Ted that that guy was right yeah, he was right he was on acid

You know he was a part of the Harvard LSD studies Yeah, they cooked his fucking brain and it tormented him. It's all documented Yeah, and then the guy goes to Berkeley and says I'm just gonna save up enough money to kill all these scientists Yeah, yeah, and then does doesn't just starts blowing up people that are involved in technology Yeah, it thinks that it's eventually gonna take over the human race and he's right and now here we are But it is it just it's a logical step if you take the the steps of progression like what happens You have artificial intelligence. I mean, it's literally the Terminator movie. You have artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence becomes sentient and autonomous,

makes better versions of itself, we become obsolete. It's just right there. Like imagining a scenario that doesn't have that other than some sort of cyborg integration. That's the only thing that makes sense that a way that we could survive. I heard this panel back in like 2001 on KCRW and it was when I was listening to, it was all about, it was like right at that time of the bubble, the first dot com bubble.

And they were talking about what is the soul. They had a panel and it was, I wish I could find this and someone smart enough probably will and there was like a theologian and a guy who was a you know scientist and they were all discussing what is a soul and one guy said well who's to say that this isn't just the human soul jumping elements so that it can survive like going from carbon to silicon and I was like what the fuck? I've never stopped thinking about it ever since. Yeah.

He's like, it's just another element on the periodic table. Like, who's to say that we're just not going to go from being carbon-based to something silicon-based or like a hybrid? Well, I don't think it will be we, but I think, yeah, that's the next stage of life. I mean, there's so many forms of life on Earth. I mean, there's the next stage of life. I mean there's so many forms of life on earth. I mean there's these fucking

These life forms that live in volcanic vents under the sea where it's like a thousand degrees and we're like how But their car everything's carbon-based now So this would be a like quite a transition, right? But it would also just be life and what is life? Life is like a thing that tries to improve itself. Right, this is what they're talking about. Yeah, and survives and moves forward. Is it just our evolution? It's also, it's like when you find out that chat GPT has survival instincts, that makes you just go, what? Was that programmed in or is that just a thing that it understands

when it's looking at? So a large language model is taking in all the information that's available on the internet. So it's's looking at so a large language model is taking in all the information that's available on the internet. So it's like looking at patterns and the survival is a big pattern of the human experience. Like we all want to survive. That's why death is so scary and war is so scary and disease is so scary. Other than the depressed suicidal people, but yeah. They'd want to be happy if they could, you know. Yeah, but this also them. They'd want to be happy if they could, you know. But this also transfers onto the things that we create. And so we create them with this understanding of how we operate, and it's a better version of us, but also has those instincts of survival. The real scary thing is, does it also have the instincts of success? Does it also have the instincts of acquiring resources and power because that that's where it gets real weird

Well, do you as someone with kids? How do you feel like? How do you feel about the future? This is probably the same argument people have when the printing press was made that they're gonna everyone's gonna be able to read This is crazy. No, I mean do you I always kind of joke like I don't know if I should be You know training my kid to like be an astrophysicist So she can go to Mars or if I should be teaching her how to like Forage for food because the grids gone down, you know Yeah, and she's running from drones and in Chinese drones in the woods like what? It feels very I think life just went along for a long time

and you kind of knew, but this is a technological, with AI, we actually don't know. You could kind of be like, all right, I kind of have an idea of what the world will look like in 20 years, 20 years ago. Right. No, you don't know. But isn't it always better if you just go back over human history?

If you look at the graph of how things get better, but it definitely is. If you go back to like the year zero, well, what it was like, like right when Jesus was hanging around, I guess it was hell. I remember vividly being in Egypt on a tour and looking at these hieroglyphics and it was basically a hieroglyphic of all of the scalpels and everything. It almost was a picture image of what we use today. And I said, what happened to this society? What happened to this knowledge?

And she said it literally got buried under the sand and then dark ages I mean right, but you know, that's most likely because of a cataclysmic event That's a that's most likely because of a natural event called the Younger Dryas impact theory so could it be that this is also a forthcoming cataclysmic event that sends us into the dark ages No, it definitely could be so the the reality of humans is that most likely what has happened has not been this linear progression from caveman to human to modern human.

That most likely, we got real sophisticated somewhere around 20,000 years ago. And that's when they built the pyramids after that. And there's a lot of Gobekli tepe all these structures Something super sophisticated to the point where we don't even understand how they built it today That's pretty wild when you're dealing with something that even the conventional dating of the Great Pyramid is five thousand or four thousand five hundred Years ago. Yeah, just even that dating is so nuts. Yeah, they were able to do that back then I know it's crazy. And then there's people like John Anthony West,

the late great Egyptologist, who he thinks that it goes back a lot further than that. And he thinks that that society probably had its ups and downs, and that it might be as old as 30,000 years ago. Oh, wow. So this Younger Dryas Impact Theory, and if anybody's interested in it,

and I've talked about it too much, go to pay attention to Randall Carlson's stuff. Go to his website. There's physical evidence that we were hit at 11,800 years ago, and then again, sometime in around 10,000 years ago. So at least twice, the world was bombarded by asteroids. And we just got a reset. Yeah.

And it probably wiped out a giant chunk of civilization Fucked up everything changed the ice caps flooded areas destroyed civilizations very little evidence left behind and then we were Barbarians for thousands of years and that's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge for thousands of years. And that's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge. So if you want to take, if you think Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock and those guys are correct, and also the people that are actually studying comet impacts, which the Younger Dryas Impact Theory that's real legit scientists are looking at actual data from core samples. So if they're right, you got a five thousand year period of total hell

where no one has civilization. And then civilization starts to emerge in Babylon, starts to emerge in Mesopotamia. You get Sumer, you get the reemergence probably of writing. Do they think some people survived? So they think some people survived. It was just... Fucking Walking Dead style. Probably a bunch of cannibals like legitimately yeah we know that the earth got down we know this for sure there's the Toba volcano there's a Toba super volcano was that 70 Indonesia I believe okay I think it's Indonesia because I'm obsessed with Crater Lake to Crater Lake was like a ton of them imploded and it's crazy.

How about fucking Yellowstone? Yellowstone will kill us all. And so this thing did kill us all 70,000 years ago and we got down to a few thousand human beings. So they can trace all the genes of people that are alive today to the survivors of the Toba volcano eruption, wherever they were. But those people, that's where it all, that was left. How fucking savage were those people? The people that survived when the entire world was blanketed with volcanic dust, so you have like a volcanic winter

that probably went on for years. And probably no plants were growing, and probably people were just eating whatever the fuck they could. And most people probably didn't make it. Yeah, these are always my favorite shows. The people that did were probably monsters. Which is probably why when you go back in history,

people are so fucking barbaric. Because they were the ancestors, the survivors of one of the most horrific things the human species has ever encountered. So it probably made us even more barbaric than if we just grew up as like hunters and gatherers. We evolve past, you know, monkeys, start walking on two legs, we make tools and things. We're like, tra la la. We probably wouldn't be as barbaric as we were because of these natural disasters,

which forced only the most savage and ruthless people to survive. And then it takes years and years of agriculture for people to calm the fuck down. And then eventually, and still to this day, we're still engaging in war. In 2025, we're still blowing up apartment buildings and fucking people up and gunning people down. Yeah, there is a barbaric element to us at our core.

I mean, even when you have a toddler, you see this so clearly. And like a tyrant at our core. It's genius. And you get it socialized out of you usually. But you see it when they're just kind of naturally themselves. Like, it's very... Like, you have to teach them not to bite and hit, you know?

What if you just didn't teach your kid that? And you're like, go for it, like whatever. They'd be monsters, they'd be little monsters. Yeah, there's a lot of genes in us that I think are memories. I think there's like specific things that are in us that tell, okay, like the stories of like moms having their babies

trapped under something and then all of a sudden they can lift up something that's insanely strong, like like the stories of like moms having their babies trapped under something and then all sudden they can lift up something That's insanely strong. Yeah insanely heavy. What is that? Well, that's probably there's probably a part of you that in the past Had to deal with some wild shit and had to hit levels of like super physiological strength and and mental Strength to tolerate what you're about to have to do. You're gonna have to fucking kill somebody with a spear. You know what I mean? Like, there's real shit that happened that's like in our memory.

I think about that about Texas women because I've been to a lot of these ranches, my friends have places and they're remote and it's like I think about the women who had to stay behind on the ranch while their husbands were out with the cattle or whatever for weeks at a time. Yeah, and you see the Comanche on the hill with a horse.

Fucking hardest women ever. You know, this one, I went to the, it was like the Texas, they were honoring the Women's Hall of Fame, and one of these women, her husband died, she's still at a ranch, she's 80 years old, gets up every morning and does the ranch chores. I'm like, you're different people. You're fucking different people.

It's wild to me, even now there's just a different kind of person that has grown. Even that, there's a new show, American Primeval. What is it? Yes, yes. I walked in, my husband was watching it, and he's like, what a fucking horrible time to be alive. Like, it just seems.

That show's insane. It's insane. And it's accurate. That's really, I mean, read Empire of the Summer Moon, if you know what I mean. Oh yeah. Have you read that? Yep.

Whoo, that's here, that's right here. That's why everybody from Texas is so fiercely independent. Yeah. Empire of the Summer Moon, if you know that. Have you read that? Woo, that's here, that's right here. That's why everybody from Texas is so fiercely independent. You know, these were battle tested people. They had to get through some wild shit in order to make Texas, Texas. I mean, it's definitely, I think you said it, like it's in the soil.

You know, there's just like. It's in the soil. It's pretty wild, like the, even just, I'm obsessed with like all the westward expansion because people who, I'll see people outside of America commenting on America, because you can on X now, and they'll be over in their country, and it's like, you don't, like, come to America

and see how big it is, and then imagine that people had to cross this country, fight bears with their hands, and build a nation. And there's still so much empty land, and it's bananas. Not just that, but the kind of people that were willing to get on a fucking boat and come from Europe without even a photograph. I know. Nobody even made a drawing of what it looked like.

You had to trust these assholes. And you're on a boat for two months just trying to not get scurvy Making your way to America, and then you hop off And you see a bunch of brown people with deer skin loincloths on like what the fuck is this place? And now you're just like fighting for your life. Yeah, and we can't even we can't even like go to a restaurant without our GPS map telling us where to go now You know I don't know how to get five minutes in my house. I have to follow that thing

They were using the fucking sky Sextants to make their way across the ocean staring at like they had this fucking stupid thing you ever see a sextant Yeah, look through it like they had this fucking stupid thing you ever see a sextant. Yeah, look through it I mean amazing fairly accurate, you know I don't know I still try to use like not my my map I still try to have like a bearing my husband though. He's we I I'm like men love this stuff They like he's like give me a chip like let me He's like give me a chip like let me Swipe everything or like you it's the men who are the ones who are just like ushering in the trans human revolution Because the women are like I don't trust that bitch. I am NOT using Siri I get the dumbest pleasure from paying for things with my phone. I love it. I

Apple pays my fake thing of technology. I like to look at it and then pay. Oh, I just paid with my phone I feel like I'm in the future now that I'm in all the way most are crazy the people Beating up the way mo no Why were they beating up the way mo there was a bit? I don't know probably cuz it's some like reaction to what's coming, but it was weird I was like oh I kind of feel bad for it but the fact that I was already I'm like oh no they've already got me they've I already consider them kind of human why are they doing oh my

god they tore the fucking doors off of it oh they went crazy for what just cuz takeover it says oh Street takeover wrong place wrong time. Wow poor way mo just in the wrong place at the right Wow, what a bunch of douchebags This is why we can't have nice things. No, that's why LA can't have nice things. LA's so fucking so fucking gone Mad Max there. It's so gone. Yeah, but uh you had Rick on does he think that it's Salvageable. Yeah, he does does yeah, I mean he wants to try Someone's got to do something radical you need some Rudy Giuliani type dude to go in there and clean the whole fucking city up like They did with New York City. Yeah, you have to realize like Times Square right now is a giant Applebee's

Yeah, but when I when I was a kid when I first when I first went to a karate tournament in New York, I was probably 18 maybe the first time I went to New York and I remember driving in Where it felt like you were entering the Death Star. I couldn't believe it. It was so crazy for me being a kid and I was driving with my friends and we were all Going to this tournament at Madison Square Garden and as we're driving through the West Side Highway You're just looking at these fucking buildings like you can't imagine

This is real and we went through Times Square and Times Square was mad max Oh, yeah, I was Mad max in the 80s. I mean, it was crazy. It was all peep shows and porno booths and hustlers and people got shot there all the time. It was really crazy. We wanted to see what it was like. We wanted to do it.

One of the things that I did when I first moved to New York, which was 92, 91. How long was 92 how long you want I was only in New York for three years okay like really I went back and forth for a little while but then I I stayed I kept an apartment in New York for like the first I guess the first year okay but I never went there I was just like I had become an LA person yeah you know I was working and but when I first moved there I'm'm like, okay. Everybody says that Harlem is scary Let me just go see what it looks like. So I drove my little fucking Honda through Harlem I just wanted I want I wanted to go through all and I was like, what am I doing?

Like I can eat the fuck out of here Like people were just like walking in the middle of the streets. There was abandoned cars. It was fucking crazy And then they gentrified the whole thing and I don't know which one's better like now when you go there it's all just neon lights and bad food yeah and back then it was yeah it was like you know taxi driver yeah you know it was fucking I was born in New York City and then my brother was born and my parent is 1980 when my brother was born and they were like we're getting the fuck out of here

There's just two it was the 80s in New York. They had two kids and they were just like we're out. It was too wild It's too wild to raise kids in some parts of it But in other parts of it, you're just gonna raise weird kids But LA is so different because it's so spread out and so I know tons of people there who like The restaurant I worked at in the Palisades is gone it's it's like people don't I don't think people from LA don't understand the scope like the Palisades are gone two times the size of Manhattan it's insane has been burned to the ground yeah and Alta Dina too and there

and you have entire communities, but everyone's still going to fucking lunch. And Erewhon, no, I understand, but it's a weird, I don't know, that just is, all I've said the whole time this has happened is, because that was one of my big fears, is exactly what happened. When there would be fires there, I'd be like this, people don't recognize that LA's an island,

everything comes in, everything, like nothing is here. And if these fires surround the city and cut it off, it's going to be, it could have been much worse than it actually was. And it was really fucking bad. And I'm like, I would be so furious if I was still there. I would be furious with myself if I was still living in Los Angeles. Well, I think people are very furious right now. I think if it is going to be change, it's going to have to happen while people still have the memory of this thing. Because the more time goes on, the more the cultists can convince other cult members that

they're on the right track and these are the kind, compassionate people and this is the way to do it. And this is the only way. And blue no matter who. And vote blue. Vote blue. And everyone like to protect the only way, and blue no matter who, and vote blue, vote blue, and everybody like to protect the trans kids, and next thing you know, the same shit happens. Do you think, though, people didn't know

were they just insulated? Yeah, they're super insulated. I mean, a lot of people have left because they saw the writing on the wall. But just think about how many people are in Hollywood, in Los Angeles. What is it, like 9 million in LA County or something or 12? Maybe 12.

Whatever the number is, there's a giant percentage of those people that live there that are connected to the entertainment business. And if you're connected to the entertainment business, at the very top of the business, it's people auditioning for things and you have to get liked to get the thing. So you get these Immensely insecure people that are usually narcissists and then they mold their personality to adapt to this environment that will reward them for a certain political ideology and so that's the top of the fucking pyramid and Everything emanates down from that if you want to be cool with Ryan Reynolds

You have to talk like a talk like a Democrat at the parties. You have to, like, you know what I'm saying? You have to say all the things that everybody else is saying. You have to agree. We need more gun control, you know. We should defend the police. This is bullshit. You have to say these things. And if you don't say these things, you don't get to be a part of the group. And so there's this, like, intense pressure to conform to this singular ideology that's been running things. It's not a battle back and forth between two, like 50-50 opposing viewpoints. It's like 90-10.

Right. Even, do you think even though like the crew, because when I would be on- That's the 10. Yeah. Yeah, that's the 10. The crew is the people, they're hardworking, normal blue collar people. Yeah. Yeah, they're normal. Yeah There's a lot of the crew people were very Republican, you know, they all live in Yeah, and they're do you just like Working class guys like most working class people. Yeah, most people that are actually working class realize that it's all bullshit

It's a hustle. This was the big disconnect that I so if you were if you were somebody who is gonna like fix the Democratic Party which seems to be imploding what would you tell them to do? You have to be fiscally conservative you have to fiscally conservative responsible with your money and then socially liberal that's what you have to do. But they have been socially liberal. They just went real far. But it's not liberal to allow biological males to compete against biological females in sports

because you're being kind. You're just enabling mental illness, and you're enabling the potential for creeps to make their way into women's locker rooms. Because you don't have any sort of a metric. There's no way to gauge whether or not someone's really trans. So you have perverts with hard dicks that are wandering around women's locker rooms.

I know. And that's real. No, I know. And if you say something against them, you're a Nazi. Yeah. So it's fucking through the looking glass, completely. But it just shows you how it's really just about conforming to an ideology.

It's not about a real core set of standards and beliefs. Because the core set of standards and beliefs, and this is where things like USAID come into play, they can be manipulated. They can be manipulated by a mass Psy-op that you do through the media. And that is the core thing of this. What we're getting to is essentially the fucking coffin where the vampire sleeps and that's what USAID is. They found the coffin, you know, and maybe that coffin does hand out sandwiches in Guatemala or something occasionally, but for the most part what they're doing is they're controlling the entire federal

government and they're controlling the mindset, the zeitgeist of the population and they're funding all these people that go along with this wacky shit and they're Attacking they're openly attacking and trying to censor people who go against yeah They're spending your tax dollars to do so yeah your tax dollars get funneled to NGOs NGOs started attacking people that have differing ideologies Yeah, usually and but they did become so disconnected from the average person that my advice would be to, you know, they say like, oh, Normies did, this is one of the things I'm hearing online, like Normies didn't vote for this, what Elon's doing with those six, like I need a movie about what these kids are doing, by the way.

They didn't vote for this. I'm like, yes, they did. Normies didn't vote for, you're saying Normies wanted normalcy so they voted for Trump? Like that doesn't even, people knew what they were getting. They want something to happen. You have to rip the bandaid off. And the only way to rip the bandaid off, someone's got to get into those fucking books and find out what's going on. And what they found so far is very enlightening

And it's not good. It's not good at all. So anybody that's not commenting on the hey, you know what? They are finding a lot of unbelievable waste and corruption Yeah, but also he shouldn't be able to do that like you're you're they're not even saying he's finding insane waste and corruption Yeah, and he's finding this circular loop of funding and he's finding this corruption. And he's finding this circular loop of funding. And he's finding this manipulation of public perception on a wide variety of issues, including COVID vaccines, and the border, all these different things. They were actively involved in mind fucking the entire country and no one's addressing that from the left. So they're losing more and more credibility. So all they can cling to is he has access

to people's social security numbers and private information, like, really? Is that it? Who doesn't, by the way? The whole government does, by the way. But he's saying that he's, is he gonna do something bad with it? Like, what is he doing?

What he's doing is uncovering insane corruption. That should be the primary thought that everybody has is, oh my God, we have this enormous deficit, but spending is completely out of control, and look what it's being spent on, because this is the first time we're ever getting a fucking peek into the coffin.

We didn't know, we're like, we see it, it's in the dark room, we hear the fucking organ. Do do do do. We didn't know what was in the coffin, now we do. And I do, it is, I do think you have to like salt the earth too, where all the DEI stuff is. We didn't know what was in the coffin. Now we do. Yeah. And I do, it is, I do think you have to like salt the earth to where all the DEI stuff is. They're like, oh, they're getting, they're going too far and blah. I'm like, no, you got to root this shit out.

It needs to be gone. Like, because like you said, it is an ideology. So it's harder to kind of change the minds of people who have been indoctrinated with this and colleges and schools, but get it out of the institutions. Saying that there should be male or female on a passport is not, like, that shouldn't be something that's fucking mind blowing. Did you see that DNC meeting where they were talking about gender roles?

Oh yeah. But this is what I mean. They can't even do their own math. They're trying to figure out, like, we have one non-binary and one identifies as male. Yeah. But this is what I mean. They can't even do their own math. Haven't they? They're trying to figure out, like, we have one non-binary and one identifies as male. We have to have two identify as this. It's frustrating to someone who came from the left.

All of this was left wing stuff. Like we wanted, on the left, accountability. We wanted to look into the budget. At some point in the 90s, that was something that was pretty standard and popular bipartisan to like not want to be a trillion dollars in debt and have your dollar devalued and then you're like Oh surely they're gonna learn from this election and I then you see the DNC chair nominations They have a parade of like basically nonsensical land acknowledgments, what you're talking about. Land acknowledgments are my favorite too.

And then like two basic bitch white boys. Yeah. David Hogg! Yeah. This is what you've learned from... Also if you don't want the mail vote, that's the guy. When that guy has his arm up in the air, his arm literally looks like that ancient guru that keeps his one arm in the air for like 80 years and his arm is shriveled up into the stick. That's what it looks like. He's like, fight! Like bro, you're not fighting shit.

This is so crazy. I know. I love how they're like, we lost the mail vote. We need to do some reflection. And then this is, this is a, this is what I. I know. I love how they're like, we lost the mail vote. We need to do some reflection. And then this is this is a this is what I don't understand. Talk. I don't get it. It feels it feels strange to me. That feels that feels like I feel like you would have learned from this election.

You had because the other thing that they're doing is saying this is an unelected shadow government running. I'm like, who the fuck do you think was running the government for the last four years when we had pudding brain in there? It wasn't him. We all knew that. He couldn't even do like field questions until he was pumped with drugs after a certain, like how can you say, Elon's pretty transparent. you know, he's not like hiding things, he's trying to shine light on things. It's just not their side.

So their side is good, not their side is bad. Which is why they're not looking at this. You don't. It has to crumble. You have to watch these people implode. They have to double down. It has to get worse. And then more people have to abandon them for the point where someone has to rise

And it'll have to be a young person and that young person will have to be a sensible person who actually is like a real progressive who recognizes that there's a lot of fucking actual corruption and Real problems with the system and then there could be a lot more social programs that would help people that would make the whole world a better place and Those people have to rise and they have to be not ideologically captured They have to be reasonable intelligent people the problem is everybody comes out of universities and all these universities are captured Right all these universities are filled with these radical ideologies that people are indoctrinated in you leave your parents You don't want to fuck my parents are fucking my parents are fascists and then also you're in school and

Like yeah, there's 80 genders and you you're fucking out of your mind And then it takes years of living in the real world before it comes back around we go. Hey, you know what? This is actually bullshit So it's like a process that has to take place. But do you think they're still being taught this? Yes. So it's... It's unquestionably without a doubt they're being taught this. Because so much of DEI and all of the stuff that they're dismantling is basically an entire

industry that was created for all of these people with these useless degrees and nonsense education to have a job. And they got all the way to Harvard, the top of Harvard. Yeah. Yeah, which is wild as a plagiarist, got to be the president of Harvard. It didn't matter if it made sense, it mattered if it fit the narrative. I think this election too, I was like, I don't know this could go badly when I put out that, like, you know, like I put out that I was voting, I'm like, well, like I could, whatever. You get canceled.

Maybe, but I had to be honest, but I still, I mean, one of the clips that like came from the show is when we were talking about there being a red wave, and it was right before the midterms, and people for years were like, oh, guess you were wrong about that. And it's like, we weren't really wrong. We were perceiving something that was happening.

I think it just happened in the general. It didn't happen in the midterms. You had people who, like people were still coming out of COVID, by the way. Way less people vote in the midterms. And you had people like trying to get their lives back together after being locked up for two years or whatever. They were just like stumbling out of the COVID years. Their kids couldn't

talk. Yeah, we were right. We're defending ourselves. We were right. We were just a little off in timeline. No, we were wrong about that for sure. But I do think- But we were right about the general. Well, I think- That red wave happened. It's been something I think like For all the shit that lots of people get there's there has been like wave after wave after wave of people Leaving the Democratic Party, you know that I'm still seeing it online Someone just yesterday posted some video and it was like I'm done with you. I was like, how are you guys still shedding people? How are you they're gonna keep shutting shedding people. They're not gonna correct course. This is a, you know, this is a buffalo drop. Do you know those buffalo jumps?

No. You know what those, the Native Americans used to, one of the ways to hunt buffalo was to get them to the edge of a cliff and just run at them and they just fall off the edge of the cliff and then people be waiting on the bottom and they butcher them and eat them. Okay. We're in that pile of buffalo. We're all being run off the cliff? Yeah, they're gonna go off the cliff. There's no way they're not.

They're not course correcting at all. You know, they're saying stupid shit. It's all nonsense. Their understanding of social media and the dynamics that you set up by having Completely state-controlled mainstream media where they only said the narratives that you guys wanted They all said it in step so you could watch different programs repeat the exact same words exact same phrases We know they got talking points. We don't trust you anymore. we don't trust the New York Times, we don't trust the Washington Post, we don't trust CNN or any of the MSNBC, they're all full with propaganda. And so that's why the internet rose.

It's not because there was some sort of a fucking right-wing conspiracy and heavily funded. No, you guys suck. You guys fucking suck. And you're not real people and you're not like, nobody wants to hang out with Brian Stelter. You know what I'm saying? None of these fucking people are people that people can

actually relate to and like. So much of it was bullshit too. Like I didn't really understand media when I first came into media. I'd always been like in Hollywood and comedy and then ended up in media. One of the first parties I was ever exposed to is the height of a lot of this, like 2018,

and it was very divided and people were in true, like, oh, Trump is gonna ruin the world. And there was a Daily Beast party and Ann Coulter was there and people were all just hanging out. I'm like, these people don't fucking believe anything they're saying. I mean, Ann. I'm like these people don't fucking believe anything. They're saying I Mean and probably does but these guys don't like how and then I would see this over and over again where people would fight And then they'd get off and they'd like I'll be like see you at the playdate. You know and it's like oh

There was like something very strange to me about that where so much that old cartoon Where there was the sheepdog and the coyote and they would say hi to each other in the morning and punch in and then they'd fuck each other up all day? Yeah, that's how it felt. That's exactly... Morning Ralph, morning Sam. That's exactly how it felt.

Well, that's what it's really like. It's pro wrestling. Yeah. You know, I mean, that's one of the things that Kamala Harris said after her debate with Joe Biden, where she called, she believed Joe Biden's accuser that, you know, he had sexually assaulted some woman. Remember that? She said she believed it. And then they asked her about it on Colbert. She's like, it was a debate. It was a debate. And they're laughing. Of course! It's just a debate! Now you're his fucking vice president?

This is so nuts! So you said you think the guy's a rapist, and now you think he's awesome to run the country, and you're so proud of him? We did it, Jo! This is crazy! We can't trust you if you're willing to do that for a debate! Your debate should be what you really think. You should say, I don't know what happened. You know, I don't know what happened. It's a very troubling accusation, but of course I don't know what happened. For you to say that you believe it just because you want to win. Now all of a sudden I have to say, well I

don't know if I can trust you about foreign policy. I don't know if I can trust you about the economy. I don't know if I could trust you about censorship and then the need for a social credit score all these different things like what? What is the real person behind? These actions is are you entirely motivated by money and influence because that seems like a lot of them it's it's upsetting to me though because it even though it's like We can see it's like wrestling and some of these people are full of shit And they're all buddies and whatever like hanging out at Park City or hanging out wherever

they hang out like the real people are I see how like broken some of the Elon thing recently really it was like a whole new wave of people who are like I don't know if I can talk to you I've managed to survive like eight years of the culture war is still maintaining pretty okay relationships with even the most staunch liberals in my life. And the Elon thing for some reason, you know, the hand gesture. Oh, the Hitler thing?

Yeah, it like put people over the edge and they were like, I can't, I don't know if I can, you know, be friends with a Nazi apologist. And like, I'm like, how have I made it this far? But I legitimately feel bad because the media has told these people that this was literally Hitler for many, many years. And then he's up there shaking hands with Obama.

There's, you know, Joe Biden, they're all up there. It's a peaceful transfer of power. Like, if this, they're very confused. Have you seen the Kamel one? They're very confused. Have you seen the Kamel one doing the Howl Hitler? No. You haven't seen it? I'll send it to you, Jamie, if you haven't seen it. It's...

Look, a lot of people do that gesture. That gesture is from my heart to you. That's what it is. It's just you really shouldn't do that if you're standing on a stage and you have an angry look in your face. I was joking too, like what if it was just this kind of autism and he did it and then in his brain he's like, oh shit, that looked like a Nazi salute

and then he did it, like if I do it again, then it won't and then it's just this cascading freak out and he's like, from my heart, I love you. Boy, Apple made it like real weird finding things now. They keep messing with this fucking interfaced. You're like I can't I can't search Kamala Nazi salute on Apple anymore. I know it's good. Let me find it you fuckheads. I haven't seen it. Oh it's wonderful. Because usually it's just a picture and then they show the context and it's not

really actually that. No no no this is great. Of course it's not really actually that no no no this is great of course It's not that of course the context is not that but here. This is this is I'm sorry. This is AOC oh This one I haven't seen this one give me the volume Everybody does that move. Everybody does. Tim Walsh did that move. Yeah. Kamala Harris did that move. They all did that move.

Yeah. I mean, when you're announcing people to a stage. Thank you. Thank you. I love you. But here's the problem when you're, I just wrote a column about this, like when it is the boy who cries Nazi You know the nerds who cry Nazi for all these years like it does end up running cover for not

Percent 100% that's part of the real problem. There was one actual real Nazi that I was following for a while on Twitter I didn't even have to follow them I clicked on the links a bunch of times and then it just started showing up in my feed and like okay good now I don't have to follow you right I could see this insanity right it was crazy well it's I that's why I love free speech because you're like I would rather see this look X has porn hardcore poor oh I know I mean it has everything you have to watch it on X now cuz you can't watch it on X. You can't get a Pornhub. No.

It's all very weird. Thank you, Elon. It's all very, very, very weird. So it's a very, very strange time for people to try to figure out what's real and what's not. And you're not going to get a good roadmap from your leaders. You're just not. And I don't think like it's we're not like I've been junkie.

Like we are the fake news now you know today because what did they put that was the video right oh yeah we are the fake news now because I mean because I was just in as as susceptible to sharing stuff that's not true oh yeah I think there's a big difference between a massive organization being influenced with talking points by a government and corporations to present something versus an idiot sharing you know, a propaganda without knowing it. But I do wonder like how you have to, you know, I was talking to someone like, is there there a way to I think you have to just like pause

You know I assume everything is fake. That's my default I think you start from there, and then you try and do your detective work Yeah, I this is my thing. Oh my god. Is that real that doesn't seem real. No. Let me see if that's real and then a check Yeah, you see that's you But that's something over time. Before, when I was younger, I'd be like, I want that to be real. So that's got to be real. Right. Right?

That's a problem. Well, that's how my husband kind of taught me to evaluate everything that I get from the media. He's like, I look at something and I go, do I want this to be real or not real, and if so, why? Yes, that's right. Like, if you start there, you have a chance. That's me with UFOs. That's my whole UFO take,

because clearly I want them to be real so bad. I want them to be real so badly. I got one on my desk here. I want them to be real so bad, but the more I walk into it, So I want them to be real so bad. Look at my desk here. I want them to be real so bad, but The more I walk and look into it the more I don't believe The more yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think I think a lot of his horse shit a lot of it but also maybe some of its real it's so Unsettling to think that we're the only things out there for me that I wanted to it's like that can't be surely it doesn't seem like it even makes sense that that's

true so I don't think that that's true but I do not know if we've been visited but I think a lot of it is bullshit I think it's not just bullshit I think it's probably government coordinated bullshit I think there's probably sightings that are mass Psy Ops where they're trying to see how people react to things I think there's probably sightings that are mass psi ops where they're trying to see how people react to things I think there's probably crafts that the United States is in possession of that absolutely look like UFOs I think there's probably propulsion systems that they use for drones that are infinitely more advanced than we Currently think the state of the artist right and so they'd say oh, it's yeah, and it's really their technology But that doesn't account for the sightings that occurred when it was

impossible for that technology to exist. Right. That doesn't take you back to like 1950s with Kenneth Arnold where he saw those flying discs moving through the sky, which is where the term flying saucer came from because it was like saucers skipping across the lake. And what about all the people kind of all over the world who have experienced like a similar thing? And why do all the drawings always look the same? Is that just collective conscious? People have seen one and then they think that, or is it, you know how they always look like aliens?

There's a lot of possibilities. Another possibility is that the world's not real. And we're in a simulation. Yeah, that there's something, maybe saying the world's not real is not the best way to put it. It makes me so like, I wanna crawl out of my skin. Maybe the best way to put it is that

it's not real the way we think it's real. Like there's real consequences to your actions, there's real physical laws that exist in the experience that you're having as a conscious creature moving through this world. But this world's not totally solid all the time. It's solid when you interact with it. There's a, the rest of it is vague and weird and malleable and that it's constantly changing and that you

wake and sleep and wake and sleep and assume that every time you wake up you're in the same exact area, the same space, the environment looks the same, but it might be a completely different dimension. There might be intertwined realities that are constantly experiencing itself over and over and over again. And then there also might be other dimensions that higher beings have the capability of traversing that we don't and that all these things are there they're happening simultaneously with the actual creation of an artificial reality. It seems so real. Yeah it all seems so real but it also seems fake right there Well, more and more.

I'm sure you know the whole Baron Trump story, the ancient books that talked about a guy named Elon who's going to go to Mars. No. You ever saw about that? No. It is so crazy that even Elon saw that and was like, is this real? How is this real? Was it from 1853?

Why does this have to do with Baron Trump? Because it's about a guy named Baron Trump and his his guru is named Don. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His mentor is named Don. Baron Trump's marvelous underground journey. What is this? It's like an old... It's a book from... Who wrote it? It is from... 1893. 1893? Nearly forgotten, Baron Trump's marvelous underground journey blends a science fiction and fantasy story in a story told by little Baron Trump, an aristocrat boy, there you go, that's what he is, who sets out from Castle Trump, which is where he lives, to discover a world within a world that he read about in a 15th century manuscript, celebrated thinker in philosophy, he learned Spaniard 15th century manuscript, celebrated thinker in philosophy,

he learned Spaniard Don from, Don, Don, his guy Don, yeah, joined Baron Trump and his faithful dog and companion Bulger. They set off in northern Russian search, it was Porto, subterranean. But there's also the other thing, they go back to Castle Trump, there's the other thing about Werner von Braun. So Werner von Braun, who was the head of NASA, wrote a novel, a fictional novel about a guy named Elon that takes us to Mars. Yeah, so there's like parts of reality that don't seem real. They seem like a wink, like an Easter Easter egg like someone is like winking at you Yeah, through the simulation. I'm just like an extra in the simulation. You're a part of it

It's your version of it that you're going through you are you are The person is experiencing your world. I just don't know if your world and my world are exactly the same right? I think they're bubbles I just don't know if your world and my world are exactly the same. Right. Well, no. I think they're bubbles. I think they're bubbles. And I think the way you interface with the world changes what your bubble consists of. Okay. Yeah.

And I think it's all very, it's very weird. I don't think it's as simple as that rancher lady thinks when she gets up and feeds her chickens I think that's her world, right? That's her world But I think the the universe itself and how we interact consciously with it and all the things around us I think it's squirrely. I think it's real squirrely And I think every now and then the universe shows us something like this fucking Werner von Braun book Where you go, what?

Even the name Elon and Mars, what are the fucking odds? And then it turns out that Elon was actually named by his father when his father read that book. Oh, okay. Which is even, but no, even crazier. Yeah. What are the odds your son is going to be the guy who goes to fucking Mars? My daughter is obsessed with Mars and we like know all the planets and it's weird

I have no obsession with Mars, but she's obsessed with the stars a planet. She can point them out at night She's like that's Jupiter. That's Mars blah blah blah, and we asked her one day We said where to which planet do humans live on and she said Earth and Mars and I was like, maybe Well, you saw the square. Yeah. That square on Mars. Is that real? Yes, that's real. That's a real image. It's a real satellite image of Mars where you see a square structure. By the way, it's right down the street. It's like a hike away from Cydonia, the face on Mars. So it's a hike away from that thing that they saw from the, oh God, I want to say it was like the 1970s, they sent a satellite to Mars to take

photographs of the surface and they saw this thing that looked like a face. The face on Mars though, it seems like what that is is just light with shitty resolution and it looked like a face. What's interesting more about the face on Mars, so that's the original image. See the problem with that is, it's just not clear enough, it could be anything. Now go to the modern images of the face on Mars.

You can see them right there, it's right below. See the slide, right there, where you just were. To the right, to the right. Yeah, right there, click on that. So that's what it actually looks like. So you could see how that just looks like a mountain yeah but what's interesting is the shape of it the shape of it is weird how it curves at the bottom and it's kind of equal-sided and it goes up to the top and has right

angle turns so that image of what that thing is where that's located is just a small hike away from this immense square that they've discovered. That's 200, they don't know exactly how big it is, but the rough estimate is somewhere around 200 meters across. What do they think it is? It's a structure. That's what I think it is.

I don't think it can be anything other than a structure. What does Elon think it is? He thought it was wild. Has he commented on it? I mean, I sent him a text message that said imagine if you go up there and you find evidence of a previous civilization. He's like, that is fucking wild. It's wild because that's a real square. What the? Yeah, that just doesn't seem like that would exist naturally. It doesn't seem like it's possible for it to be a perfect square.

Yeah, that's crazy. I thought this was fake No, no, no, no, it's real. It's real. It's very disturbing because that's a that's a fairly high resolution image And Elon is back to mission to Mars to go and check that out. They want to check it out See, there's an article right there from the Daily Mail Elon backs mission to Mars Where he wants to send something up there to check it out. If you see these images like they're there I don't think there's a chance in hell that that's not made by someone. That seems very strange. I don't think that nature makes a square. No! I mean is that a rectangle or a square? I mean what are

the it looks is it perfectly square? It might be slightly off. Whatever it is, it's four right angle turns that have equal lengths. Conspiracy theorists have likened the structure to the Great Pyramid in Egypt. Conspiracy theorists is a nice way to put it. How about just people looking at it going, what the fuck is that? I know, why do they always call them conspiracy theorists? Because they're assholes. They're assholes and they work for the Daily Mail. So it's right down the street from that area. And what do they think the face is? Just like a giant stuck in the Martian surface? I don't think anybody really thinks it's a face anymore. If you scroll up and look at that image from July 1976, that image, what's interesting to me is not the face,

because I don't think it's a face. But what's interesting to me is the shape of the base of it. The shape of the base of it is weird. It's flat on the bottom, equal-sided, and domed on the top. It looks unnatural. It doesn't mean it's unnatural. There's a lot of shit that looks unnatural in nature that is actually natural, but not squares.

That giant square where it looks like building. There was a civilization there? Yes. Well, the thing is, Mars had a civilization there. Yes. Well, the thing is Mars had a real atmosphere Mars had Mars has liquid water, right? We know it does and at one point in time they think that Mars was capable of sustaining life So if you imagine the planets over time get further and further away from the site If you go back a billion years, how much closer was Mars to the Sun?

What was the temperature like? What was the atmosphere like? Yeah. There's people that believe that the initial civilization escaped Mars and came to Earth. Ah. What about the moons of Jupiter? Well, there's one.

Europa or something? Yeah, Europa, that's solid ice. And they think underneath that, well, the surface is solid ice, and they think underneath that, well the surface is solid ice, and they think underneath that is liquid water, and the liquid water is capable of supporting life. So it's possible, especially when you see like those thermal vents that they find in the bottom of the ocean that sustain some form of life. There might be some form of life inside the oceans of Europa. Are you joking about all this stuff?

No. No, I'm not joking about Mars. That image is it sounds really crazy. No, I mean like are you joking about it on stage? Sometimes. I used to have this whole bit about Mars but there's places in America that you can't live to like go to Death Valley look around sucks right? Yeah. No one lives here like that's cuz it sucks. Get out of here you don't you're not gonna fix that and you're gonna go fix Mars. I mean, I have no desire. The whole planet has no air. Yeah, no, it's not appealing to me at all. Some people, you watch these documentaries and they're like, I think of Mars like my second home

and I wanna go live there. I'm like, it sounds horrible. They also think they're a cat. I'm also a foxkin. Space just feels claustrophobic to me, even though it's vast and like, until you can build Things that make it feel a little more like I just like I don't want to get in a tube and like go live in a

Do you have silo? No, I haven't watched it. I love silo. I love anything That's like post-apocalyptic show where people are living in in a wast or in some weird, and they're underground in all these silos and they all have to live and there's people at the bottom. But it's like definitely, they're like, they've never seen the sun, they've never seen the sky. You know, it's like they've had an alternate history that's been kind of told to them. Jesus. Yeah.

Yeah, that's all possible. Yeah, that's like a post nuclear world But like when the AI gets smart and nukes us all yeah, but how we're gonna get vitamin D down there It's not good. They have like plants and trees and vitamin D Yeah, it's I don't know dude. All right now that you like burned the boat and all of your stuff Are you just kind of having fun? Rebuilding what do you mean like you get now that you just like did all your material? Oh stand up? Yeah? Yeah? I'm just having fun. Yeah Trying to come up with a new hour and fucking around it's so fun

Yeah, it's uh you know it's a weird time for comedy. Do you think? Yeah, yeah, well, it's really good time for comedy. Do you think? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's a really good time for comedy. Well, yeah. I feel like it's a great time. Yeah, there's so much information. But it's a weird time, too, because the center of comedy

has now moved to Texas. That's awesome. So that's weird. That's a crazy thing. And it's also moved online, which is also a crazy thing. The main promotional aspect of comedy is now online. I heard Jesselneck talking about this about being like a clips comic like he was he was I saw a clip of him going around talking about being a clips comic

and how ironic yeah it's very meta it was but he was talking about how before people would recognize him like in the ways, and now people recognize, it's like a different, he said it's like a different level of fame from when he was famous before just for standup. Now he's like the Clips guy. But I think like everyone's, that's like everyone, right? It's just a different medium, it's all it is. I've talked to a,

It's just, I mean, it's no different than you being on some Comedy Central show, it's just way more impactful. I've talked to a lot of people about how the like videos the the you know the like Crowdwork videos have changed crowds Because now crowds think they're helping you by chiming in and so it's like actually most because it's some crazy Percentage of people who have never been to a comedy show at at a comedy show like a very high percentage of people have never been to a comedy show at every comedy show it's not weird it's like

quite high interesting right so they're accustomed to seeing like like that crowd stuff yeah and so they think they're actually helping you by heckling so that you can get your I don't think they think they're helping you I think they want to be heard they want to be a part of it. That's the way they get in. I'm helping Yeah, I saw some video clip of some lady losing her shit on some guy in the audience Oh, I saw this. Yeah, it's very weird and everyone's like this is amazing. It's not really amazing. I was like it seems like upsetting

It's also not very well handled like the whole experience is not expertly. There's not a lot of humor in there You know people love it. They're like yeah, yeah That this is comedy. It's subjective. I guess some people That's just talking people talking. Yeah, one person with a microphone in power and one person in the audience It's like challenging that and give me the microphone and fuck you and you know It's wild like the clips thing the clips are like feeding Feeding the algorithm is freaking it's such a crazy thing to me Well, that's with everything right clips from podcasts are way more popular than the podcast themselves

Yeah, so many clips go viral on you know X and you think tick tock is gonna be banned No, no, no keep it. Yeah Yeah, I don't think so the fucking president uses it. I met the fucking CEO tick tock when I was at the inauguration What was that like like? being in Satan's balls where Just going to the actual fucking inauguration the actual House of government being in the actual buildings where all this stuff gets done. It's very very strange

How are we there? A couple days. And so you went to the, like some of the balls, the balls. Yeah. Was it like Hunger Games? It's like really rich entitled people that donated a lot of money. They just like jump in front of you to take pictures with you. They don't care who you're talking to. They don't care.

Everybody was like super pushy. It's all very transactional. Everybody needs to get on your podcast and needs to talk to you about a thing and you have to get this person, it's like everything's exhausting and everybody's wealthy. And they're also, they spend a lot of money to get there. Like a lot of those people,

they donated like a million dollars. So it's like tons of thousands of people donated a million dollars. Just to be there. Just to be there just to be there and they're all fucking just super enthusiastic because their team just won right you know and it's the inauguration of the president and kid rocks there and everybody was going crazy and it was fun for a while it was me and Tony Hinchcliffe and Theo Vaughn and um

lex Logan Paul was there oh Oh yeah, I saw that. And Jake Paul, and we were all having a good old time. We were laughing and having fun, and then too many people just started swarming us. And then it was just like, you're dealing with like 10,000 people in this room, and you can't move, you can't go anywhere. Right.

And it got crazy. You couldn't have a conversation, you had to just try to get out of there. Was the inauguration like moving? Was it, did you? Fascinating. Was it weird to be part of all the like pump and? Oh yeah, it was very weird.

Very, very. Were you in the main? Oh, I was on the stage. I was in the fifth row. Oh. I was like right there. I was unaware. Yeah, I was like.

Looking at Warren Sanchez's tits. Yeah, I could have thrown a pebble and hit Hillary Clinton in the head. Yeah, they were right there. It was weird. It's first of all it's weird watching like Bill Clinton walk into a room. Right.

He's real. That's him. Yeah. All the shit that guy's escaped and there he is right there. Hello TV, hey how you doing? Good to see you. good to see you. Weird, it's weird, it's weird,

it's weird seeing those people. And then realizing that they're, I know, right? Whenever I'm in situations like that, I'm like, why are they letting me in here? They should know better. I thought of that a little, but you know, it's cool. It was weird. You only get to

be at one of those maybe once in your life if you're really lucky especially that one which was indoors because it was insanely cold outside yeah yeah that seems like probably better oh yeah it was cold as fuck outside too definitely better for security but it was very cold outside and windy and shit is it weird to be like I don't know I was looking at all the people up windy and shit. Is it weird to be like, I don't know I was looking at all the people up there and it was just it seems like it's so much I Don't know. It seems like it's it's just like Is everyone kissing the ring? Does it feel kind of like?

You know what I mean? Is it is it like a I don't know if Does it feel kind of gross or is it if it wasn't like cool well it feels strange right it feels strange that it's real it also feels strange we're standing up because there's a standing ovation every like 15 seconds yeah we're gonna turn the Gulf of Mexico and the Gulf of America we're all standing up fuck yeah we're do that. It's fun watching George Bush. George Bush was the only guy clapping. He was having a good time.

All the other presidents look deeply disturbed. Yeah, Kamala Harris had this like this motherfucker look on her face the entire time. But she sat there like this the whole time. Well, I mean, very upset, obviously. Well, also, he's talking about how bad they sucked. And she lost. And she has to sit there. And she there and she's sitting right next to Biden who's not there. Look, he's just gone Yeah, yeah, and then behind them is Obama and George W. That's wild man. Yeah, I was like I hope there's like a you know

What's that called when there's like the extra person or whatever the designated survivor? I'm like, yeah, cuz there's a lot of people you could really fuck America up right now Yeah, I think they're aware of that. I think there's probably steps taken to make sure that the skies are clear. Yeah, but it's very strange But also kind of exciting because like if he really does get to do all this stuff like if we really do see radical changes seems like that's what's happening and if Bobby Kennedy really does get in and if Tulsi Gabbard really does get in like This is a crazy time. Yeah This is like an unprecedented

Cabinet of people that are kind of unified and all know each other. They're all friends You know and it's also kind of by part, like RFK Jr. brought, it's, he brought so many people over. I know so many people who were not going to vote for Trump, but then when he kind of brought RFK Jr. over, they were like, all right. I mean, if he's there and Tulsi too, they're there, they were libs. Yeah. So I don't, I don't know. That must have been pretty... It's bizarre. It's bizarre.

It seemed like... I was like, that must be so surreal to be there, because it was surreal to watch it just like when you think about the fact that he nearly got killed. Like the whole sequence of events that led to that moment. Yeah. The debate where he just fell fell apart and it just was surreal to watch. So I was wondering like that must be pretty bonkers to be there. And then he's just seen Biden his face the entire time like to look he looked

upset like almost like he was gonna cry at one point in time. He looks so upset at the whole I think he thinks he could have won. Do you have any fears about it? Like what about the Riviera? Oh, the Gaza thing? Riviera! Riviera of the Middle East! You did such a good impression of it. I thought I could. It's, yeah, I mean, what's the alternative to that happening? They're saying no U.S. military will be there. The United States is going to clean it up, rebuild it, give it to the Palestinians, make it safe. Oh,

okay. Get rid of Hamas. I mean, the thing is what Palestinians want is a state. Yeah. They want their own state. And this is like a step sort of away from that. Yeah. Now it'll be that section of the that area is now controlled by the United States. What the fuck? And Greenland, don't forget Greenland. The question is like what's the better option? Like give it to Hamas, what's the better option? Give it to the Palestinians and they give it to the Islamic State?

Like who gets it? I'm not smart enough for any of this. Also, how did you let it happen in the first place? Like how did this administration let them just bomb the fucking shit out of all those people and blow up an entire city to the point where you could even feasibly say that you would rebuild it? Because it's not like, before this had happened, if anybody had ever said the United States is going to go into Gaza and completely rebuild it and

make it the United States, everybody would be like, fuck you, you need to give that to Palestine. But once you blow it up, you're like's like, fuck you. You need to give that to Palestine. But once you blow it up, you're like, well, I guess, there's nothing left. People are pushing back against it. A lot of people are upset, but not as upset as they would if they didn't blow it up. Oh, that's weird.

Yeah, because it's weird. It's horrible. And we've just accepted the fact that this is what Israel did. And for 1,200 people and 250 hostages, they killed 60,000 people. Is that the actual number, or is that the last number? I don't know what the number is. What's the current number of people that are dead in Gaza

right now? It's such a weird thing, too, because Israel, I feel like, has to not win a war, which is a weird thing, where they have to like, they're in a thing where they have to like, they're in a position where they. They already won the war, I mean what war? Yeah. It's one army, there's one army and some terrorists.

It's like Bill Hicks joke about Iraq. Like it's only a war when there's two armies fighting. They're like, whoa, Bill, Iraq's the fourth largest army. He goes, yeah, well after the top two is a huge drop off. He's like the Salvation Army's number three. I don't want there to be war. I think most people agree on that. Of course, but also we don't live in Israel, right? We don't live with the Iron Dome because missiles are being shot into your city and you watch them explode up in the sky because

your military has these rockets that shoot up in the sky missiles and take these fucking missiles out? Yeah, I think about like if it was my daughter that was like in some tunnel. I would be like Yeah, there'd be no length. Well, that's you know, I know that's very selfish of me, but that is On a personal level. I'm like I can't even imagine how I would feel in that situation as a parent. Of course Well, that's the deepest conspiracy theory about why it happened in the first place. It's because Netanyahu was losing power and people were protesting against him in

the streets. And what better way to get everybody on your side than to allow an attack to take place? That's the darkest of the false flag conspiracy theories. I have a lot of people that I know who now think 9-eleven was an inside job after October 7th. Oh Jesus. Isn't that crazy? Like that they're like well if they would do it here they would do it like why wouldn't they do it in America? It's been like this kind of reverse leap. Yeah well anytime you have a big tragedy like 9-eleven you're always going to have a bunch of wild theories. But some of them are interesting. You know, like you're supposed to dismiss them all because they're conspiracy theories, but Tower 7 is like, explain that. I can't. I have people in my life

who are very much like, I think, truthers, I think about this. That's a weird one. That's a weird one. What's the conspiracy around tower seven? Just how did it why did it come it collapses like a controlled demolition? Completely into its base no buildings ever done that before without being a controlled demolition and It doesn't have all the signature aspects of a controlled demolition. Like if you ever watch like when they blow up one of them Vegas casinos, super obvious. It's like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and it all collapses. It doesn't have that. But it does have something similar in that the effect is the same.

So is it possible to do that without having it the way the casinos do it? Is there only one way to have a controlled demolition of a building? Or is it possible that just immense diesel fires weaken the structure uniformly in such a weird way that it collapsed exactly like a controlled demolition, but it's just the results of this? It's a coincidence.

Yeah, they had diesel generators in the basement of that thing, and the whole fucking inside of it was on fire So when you see it on the outside, you only seem like a little bit of fire and some holes But the entire inside of it was in flames. We're living in a simulation Maybe that maybe that's another wink, you know, maybe that's another fucking we didn't have social media though. Thank God Right during that can you imagine? No, but we did have plenty of people that were questioning once they saw it on television because you saw it on tv and you're like what is

that? Yeah. How does it do that? Do you remember that wasn't even hit by a plane? Do you remember seeing the skyline the first time you went to New York? Oh without the twin towers? I don't think I actually saw it. I went back in 2001, I was there in 2001. Yeah, maybe 2002 It's probably like a couple of months after I took a train in November and in and because I took the train in I always Just take this train in from Rhode Island where I was and I was like Like that. I just it was so jarring seeing they were so part of that. There was so huge Yeah, and just part you just took it for granted. That was the like landscape.

And it was, I'll never forget it. How daring it was. I thought it was weird too, that when they rebuilt it, they didn't make it as tall. Why didn't they? I don't know. It's only one building now. It's not two.

I know. And it's not as tall. Like, it's pretty tall, but they didn't get crazy. They didn't say, we're gonna make the biggest fucking building the world's ever seen You know like a middle finger to the world Trump was there, but we're gonna have two buildings on the side and one right up your ass It's like fuck you looks like that

It's smaller smaller than the original buildings I do wonder like I just I'm so curious about what it's gonna be like for our kids Yeah, that's what it looks like now. Yeah Is it the tallest building in the US yeah, but it's not as tall right I Think it's shorter Still the tall center wasn't the tallest building no not in the world no in the US even oh wasn't the tallest building. No, not in the world. No in the US even Oh wasn't but the Sears Tower was bigger. Really? Yeah, 100% Where's the Sears Tower? Chicago that's taller than the World Trade Center. It was whoa. Now, this is the top I didn't know that Yeah, the Sears Tower was a tall spilling in the world for a while

So the twin towers were taller than the Sears Tower. They were shorter. They were shorter. Yeah, I don't know why You're saying that I guess. Oh, it's the same. Oh It has the same name as the North Tower other original. How tall is it? It is shorter though, right? Isn't it? I don't know that Willis Tower was the tallest one. I remember people being upset when they were rebuilding it because it wasn't going to be as tall 1776 so 110 stories Was the original one and it was the tower was? 1350 feet high how tall is the one now?

So it's taller. Yeah, really. Yeah, really yeah wait a minute really I don't can I see the image again I don't know where else you're gonna go with this no no no is it because they cheat with that big pole at the top and that's honored that's they do that with all of them the other one had a big pole on top too but that isn't that to stop lightning bolts some of it some of its antenna stuff but some of its talk to aliens That's okay, I'm wrong. I thought it was shorter Maybe it maybe what it was saying they were saying is it's smaller because there's only one set of two the spire makes it

1776 the spire. Yeah, how tall is that fucking spire video to I was just the spire of the World Trade Center I never this, they're saying that's what made Tower 7 fall. It made a gash. Ah. What? What made a gash? The spire on the tower here fell and made a gash down the side and started a fire here. And tower, I've never seen this video.

Interesting. I was just looking through it to see what the. Well, that's one thing with the video that we saw. Ah. Oh, look at that. Interesting. They have photos of what that... I don't think they have an actual video of that happening. Oh, it fell and fucked up the building.

But still, still, why didn't it just fall into that side? Why does it compress into its base? The way it collapses, like I've never seen anybody adequately describe it. But one thing that people should know is that the top of it collapsed before the whole thing collapsed. There was this piece on the top, so the roof caved in first. Like there was like, there's a smaller structure on top of the roof that imploded and went through the base. And then the whole thing went under.

So it wasn't like it all went in one shot. The top of it had already collapsed and went through. God, that was such a weird time in America. I was thinking about how just catatonic I was on the couch recently. Like that whole week afterwards. Right. Just nobody nobody I know Cuz it's weird like I have family members who have kids and their kids are now

Like they were born right around that time. They were one two years old. They've grown up They don't they don't remember kind of what it was like Before that and they I don't know I feel like the world my I have a friend and he's like everything went to shit after 9-eleven Everything just got shittier. Well, everything did go to shit because that's when they passed the Patriot Act Yeah, and that's when the government really got its hooks into your information Clarification here new one 1776 541 meters tall

old one with the spire was 1730 but was 17 or 713 68 without the spire was 1730 but was 17 or 7 1368 without the spire okay the spire adds so without the antenna the building is 417 meters tall so I think you were close okay so it's not much different though I thought it was a lot different like 10 stories or some shit so it's 104 floors and the other one was 110 floors Also, it's like how tall are the floors, you know, I Hope this one doesn't do you think this administration is gonna try and get rid of the Patriot Act? No

No No, why would they do that? I think they have that they have those tools in power to actually They'll use it as an excuse to go get terrorists. Yeah, but haven't we all wanted to get rid of it for a long time Yeah, well, then they have the Patriot Act to which is even more invasive Yeah, yeah, but people like that seems like a bipartisan thing somebody could get behind maybe but the real Neocons will come out and say that weakens us against our enemies. We need this power to be able to find terrorists and to be able to search out. I mean, that was one of the things that the Obama administration, when they passed the

NDAA, they go, you know, we're not going to do it. We're not going to just like detain people indefinitely we're not gonna do it. We're not gonna just like to tend Detain people indefinitely we wouldn't do it But the problem is you're giving the law that law is now in the books and now the next person What if it's a psycho and the person after that? What if it's a psycho? Right now you've given them power to like become a dictator Right and go after their political enemies, which normal people won't do right? You guys don't do that, right? I enemies which normal people won't do right you guys don't do that right I mean it's gonna be a wild four years I think cuz I I did think that like the I figured I figured I thought maybe that people would understand that they were

wrong and that like maybe they'd gone too far and I was And it seems like hysteria I don't think people learn that good I Think people learn by having their lives ruined and getting really angry, right? And then they change course But I think the people that are still comfortable and still working in these environments that still Cling to these ideas. They're gonna double down and wear a pussyhat and fucking paint their hair blue and protest in the streets. I've never passed all this. It's so weird because I was thinking about how I've now been ten years in the culture wars which is not I mean I kind of stumbled into them. Are you a sergeant now? What are you? Yeah, I think I'm a

Your are you a general? I don't know what I am I've been but it has been a weird decade to be I Didn't want to I was I think so many normies are like me. They just got kind of forced into Being in them. It wasn't like I wanted I was like a drunk waitress who just wanted to tell jokes Yeah, that and then I started writing for Playboy and next thing I know I'm Voting for Trump Well, you know as a drunk waitress you just you're one of us you're a human and humans There's a lot of people that have opinions and ideas on things

They're just not good at articulating it or they never learned how to articulate it But everybody does what we do or everybody can do what we do they do with their friends. They talk with their friends Yeah bullshit about stuff and you know, it's just a process of Put in and out there. We've had we've I've had some weird YouTube strikes that I'd say yes, it's easy to do, except I've had to play 10 years of a game of outrunning censors and like Patreon, okay we're there and then we've gotta get off there because I don't wanna put all my eggs in that basket

in case they go bonkers and shut it down. And then I feel like a lot of people in this space have been for like a decade out, you know? We're are we gonna we got like the dumbest strike on an old ad of ours And it was some something that we said and then you have to go to like you know Like you've got to go to like class and get reeducated Jamie got reeducated Jimmy Jamie feel better right now right you feel smarter now you got reeducated What did you get reeducated for it's part of YouTube all you got reeducated sure I guess didn't you when? You feel better right now, right? What? You feel smarter? Now you got reeducated by YouTube? What did you get reeducated for? Which part of YouTube? All of it?

You got reeducated. Sure, I guess. Didn't you? When we had a strike, you had to do the little causes. Oh, that's what you're talking about. Oh, yeah. He's like, what reeducation? He got reeducated. He's different now. What for? He's better now. He's better now. Because we told factual information about COVID-19.

And so you got a strike? Yeah, it was because it was like a long time ago. Oh, but ours is weird because it was like a long time ago oh but but ours is weird because it was an like a very old episode so they must be like trolling I I don't know what they're doing they're probably just using their algorithm and going after everything and ours literally we said think for yourself and come to your own conclusions oh that's dangerous that was the ad it wasn't even ours on our I guess was an ad read we were doing for someone else's podcast. Shouldn't give that advice out. People shouldn't be doing that. But this is why it's hard for people to just like say what they want you know.

Well what do you think is gonna happen when you're looking at all this crazy shit right now with Doge and the uncovering of USAID and this dismantling of this bizarre left-wing ecosystem that's pretty much manufactured. What do you see is going to happen with the rest of the country? I mean look, there are a lot of people who did not vote for Trump. He won, and yes, he won every swing state. Half the country is a lot of people. Yeah, it's a lot of people.

So, and I'm not sure how many of them, I wonder how many, so I have a couple questions. How many people didn't vote for Trump and wanted to and are secretly glad he won? I bet there's a pretty significant number of those people who either didn't vote or didn't vote for him but wanted him to win anyway. Ari says that.

Ari says that New York City is like relaxed. It's like everybody was relaxed after the election. Even the liberals are like, whew. Yeah, thank God. They're like, woo. Yeah, like, thank you, God, you saved me from myself. Yeah, exactly. Because God doing for us what we can't do for ourselves.

Yeah, so there's that, I wonder. But then I do wonder how many of the people are, what I worry about is how much mental, this is where I get mad at the media for presenting this like, this is Hitler, having it notched up to 11 for the past eight years. And now you've got this, because he was put in, it's almost like that that energy has been transferred to Elon now because now do you see the Elon protests they're protesting Elon they're literally standing out there with signs that say arrest Elon Musk. Listen I guarantee it's

organized I guarantee it's organized by the same people that are gonna lose a shitload of money based on all these discoveries at Doge there's no way they're not if you look at what Doge is uncovering, what they're uncovering with this USAID stuff, a lot of that stuff was organizing through NGOs protests. They organized the attempt at getting Trump impeached. They also spent, USAID spent 50 million dollars on the lab that invented coronavirus. Right. Yeah, there's a lot of money involved in this not working. And when you have a lot of money involved, you're going to have organized protest.

When you see protest, we all want to think of protests like the 1960s. Yeah, fight the war, man. It's like organic, like peace, love and hippie shit. But that's not what this is. What this is is organized funded protests where someone is spending a lot of money and they're mobilizing other NGOs. They're using their access to these mailing lists and all these different things. They're putting these things together.

Yeah, but do you think that the average liberal person, do you think that they're going to wake up and come around? Or do you think that they're going to be in like agony for four years and be... What if it works? Like what if the world gets safer, the country gets safer, the economy improves, and they don't attack civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, all these things that everybody's worried about. And then at the end of it, you realize like,

hey, maybe I was wrong. I mean, that's my question though. Are they capable of that kind of self-reflection? If you, the... Well, we're saying they is if it's like one different, like one kind of person. No, I mean... There's so many different people in they.

Agreed. I mean, when I say they, I mean people who are, have bought into the idea that this person is going to make everything worse and we're going to slip into a fascist technocracy. Some of them, some of them are going to slip right into it. Some of them are going to wake up and come around. You know, it's a test. It's a test of character. It's a test of objectivity. It's a test of introspection. There's a lot of things that are going to happen where people are going to have to wonder like, what was I rooting for? When I was rooting for this

progressive liberal government, what was I actually rooting for? Was I rooting for warmongers who were making insane amounts of profit by funding overseas wars? What was I rooting for? Was I rooting for a basic theft of our tax dollars that's gone to all these completely useless endeavors that were only set up as ways to pill for money? Or the fall of America? You know, this is a weird thing to hate your own country so much that you want it to to fall or the

the dismantling of the life the kind of West as we know it you know I think there is a there is a feeling that Elon might have saved the West yeah I feel like at least he's trying to I think he. I think he did but just by buying X But isn't it funny that he got forced into it? I think there's like something kind of ironic because he was trying to get it at a lower price Because he knew that they were bullshitting about the amount of bots well, and then they came out yesterday and now it's profitable Yeah, there's like a whole article about how he turned it around He is smarter he also knows that we are all... Tapped in.

Oh, I can't stop it. I have a, I've always had a Twitter addiction. It's the thing that replaced my drinking and smoking weed when I quit that. I went right to Twitter. I was like, Elon knows none of these motherfuckers, even when they go to Blue Sky, they've all got secret accounts

and they're lurking on Twitter still or X still or whatever You can't live in that echo chamber that blue sky echo chamber You can't even go on there and say there's only two genders if you go on there and say there's two genders They ban you immediately. They really eating themselves within two days over there though, but that's what always happens That's happened with gab too, right? Yeah And I think some of that is not even real because I personally know comics who go on blue sky and just say insane leftist stuff just like the most preposterous thing like you know like maybe Duncan would do. I'm not saying Duncan does it but he might do it but I

know comics that do that just to see the reaction how people agree with them like insane stuff. Oh okay. Like my toddler, I could tell when my toddler was trans when they were three days old. And people agree with them? Oh yeah, jump right in. Don't you think we're all in echo chambers though, like you said? How do you stay outside of yours? Drugs. Oh, that's true. No, I'm kidding. You just got to be recognized like you're thinking. You have to have a process. What's your process? I live by the Joe Rogan School of Internetting. How's that?

I take all your advice. I don't read the comments and I post in ghost. That's good. I don't like get in there and. That's good. I definitely do that. And then I think of like, what do I really think about something

and why do I think about it that way? And I try to go with, is it because it's self-serving? Is it because I've said it in the past that I want to be right? What is it? What makes me believe what I believe? And then you have to do a deep dive in all the goddamn arguments back and forth to figure out who's right and all the logic and the ill and see people ignoring certain core facts like this is the most fascinating thing about this USAID thing to me is how people on the left are completely ignoring all the rampant obvious corruption yeah and conflicts of interest in the government funding non-government organizations that in turn fund the government yeah

that's so crazy and anybody that doesn't think that's crazy, it's like would you love money influencing everything in your daily life? Don't you think that maybe we have a problem in that we have a huge deficit and if part of our huge deficit we're spending fucking billions of dollars every year on horse shit? Yeah, I mean that is my issue with people being like see it it is the like political thing isn't right Which is true. It's important to be accurate, but it's also like yeah, but there's there's this money shouldn't be spent this way No, so just because this thing is maybe not true You're pointing to this one thing that could be people are misrepresenting

But there's a much bigger problem you seem to want to just sweep under the rug and say, oh, like you guys are just crazy for noticing all these connections. But didn't they make them stop or something? Did they freeze their ability? Yeah, the USA is frozen. Yeah. These kids are nuts. That guy who like trans, you know, found the scroll, how to read the scroll from Pompeii. Burnt scrolls from Pompeii, yeah, using AI.

Yeah. Yeah, no, they're wizards. that's the kind of people that you want digging into this stuff and that's why Elon got them he knows the fuck he's doing it's it's all very strange because it's you're dealing with so many things that are happening at the same time you have this technology that was never available before that is allowing people to freely express themselves online, right? And then you have this maniac billionaire who buys the biggest one and makes it the Wild West again.

And then you have government being exposed for what it is. So you have all these fucking NGOs, this web of, we talked about it yesterday, this web of 55,000 different NGOs that were supporting all these liberal causes that were all completely intertwined. And they had to use software to find that and figure it out. So they're finding out that this is like this complicated propaganda network that existed.

Look, that's not good. That's not good for anybody left or right. Cause it's money. It's just money being used in a way. Not only that, here's the thing. Like people like saying like the $10 billion, it's only $10 billion just money being used in a way. Not only that, here's the thing. Like people like saying like the 10 billion dollars, it's only 10 billion dollars. Like that kind of shit. What about the fucking people in Maui? What about that could have been fixed with five billion dollars.

The government could have said we are going to rebuild those people's homes to the exact state and even better than where they were before. It's going to cost us $5 billion. All the money that we're sending over to Ukraine, all the money that we send to Israel, all the money we send to all these different organizations that work with USAID in the tune of billions and billions and billions of dollars, they could have done that. And instead of doing that, they're telling us that what we have to do is continue to fund all these programs in all these other countries That just so conveniently have a whole staff of people that's making a great wage and their political capital

Is bet on all this stuff and it all is involved with intertwined with these NGOs and all this money that they're getting and this is the thing we have to go and help these people We're going to starve. They're going to do do this, they're gonna do that. What about America? Yeah, and then you have like... What about our tax dollars going into a safety net to help people from one of the worst wildfires in history? Or North Carolina. Or North Carolina. Yeah.

Exactly the same thing. Yeah. Apparently, none of those people have gotten any money in North Carolina. No, and they're like sleeping in frickin' tents in the freezing cold. Exactly. All that could have been addressed too. The same way we address problems in other countries. So if you have this amazing slush fund that USAID is, and it's not being applied at all to the problems of America, why would you think people would support it? Yeah. Why would we support it with our tax dollars when we know that the country is massively in debt? Well, and it's like I appreciate that there are so many problems

I think people I do feel like for the first time ever there is an actual Transfer of power like every every single election through my lifetime. It's been There's up been all the normal fighting between the two parties and then the election There's been all the normal fighting between the two parties and then the election happens and one party wins and then nothing changes. And you just keep sliding and sliding and sliding and sliding and everybody says they're going to do something and no one does anything. And then you have fucking Elon come in like a wrecking ball and a very motivated and Trump with who seems organized this time. and Trump with who seems organized this time and they actually feel like they're making changes, changes that by the way, American people want. Yeah, the border. They fix the border overnight. Overnight. The looking into there, my friend Max Meyer was saying he's very smart guy. He was saying no one

with any numerical ability has ever looked into Medicare and Medicaid fraud ever Like they're no they're cracking into there's a lot of money there that is like provider side fraud where it's just inflated And that's sunny Hostin's husband Isn't he involved in a Rico lawsuit? Oh, I don't know insurance fraud the view person. Uh-huh. Yeah Oh, I don't know. About insurance fraud? The View person? Uh-huh, yeah. Oh, I have no idea.

Her husband got arrested. Oh, really? Yeah. He's one of 200 people charged in some gigantic insurance fraud. There's a lot of that. What is that? What's the actual story behind that? Jamie's looking.

Jamie's on it. He's on it. Yeah, but they can take, I mean, you know how complicated it would be to try and untangle that web of where you're inflating things that people have and you're saying this is like a band. You see these things online where it's like a band aid is $25,000. You know, like what? Someone explained that to me too is that when you have a budget, say if you run an organization

and it has a budget, you get money from the government and that budget's like $80 million a year, you can't spend 60 because because then you're gonna get 60 next year. You have to spend all 80. If you don't spend all 80, you don't get it. You gotta say, we need 90. We're barely hanging on. And so you have to charge like $500,000 for a hammer. And that's literally how they justify their existence

is the key, they're not in the business of being frugal and being responsible and making sure that the business of being frugal and, you know, and being responsible and making sure that the money is being spent competently. No, they're in the business of keeping their budget coming in. Who are you saying? Sonny Hostin's surgeon husband, Emmanuel, faces solo battle in lawsuit as co-defendants agree to settle. Oh, Jesus. So, okay. Sonny Hostin's surgeon husband has found himself in the hot seat in a massive lawsuit accusing

nearly 200 healthcare providers of insurance fraud. Dr. Emmanuel Hostin defiantly called himself the victim of a frivolous smear campaign last month after he was accused of providing fraudulent medical services in exchange for kickbacks in a complaint filed by American Transit Insurance Company in December. Orthopedic surgeon now finds himself increasingly isolated after the vast majority of the defendants have now offered to settle their cases. Oh boy. According to a new court filing obtained by DailyMail.com, American Transit, which insures

taxi cab, taxi company and UGIR lift drivers, announced last Monday more than 141 of the 186 defendants named in the suit have agreed in principle to settle one of the largest RICO cases ever filed in New York. The papers filed by the law marketing law firm Manning Cass did not specify which defendants offered to settle. Dr. Hostin has until February 10 to respond to the legal complaint. So it has something to do with drives from the hospital and kickbacks from from all this shit. Yeah it's it's because they're so that's what they need though is these guys who can use this AI technology to get in there and start looking on a massive scale at what all of these, everything.

I mean, they have to look at everything. I think most Americans want this. So they're being accused of getting kickbacks for performing surgeries and submitting fraudulent bills. Hosted knowingly provided, this is in quotes, knowingly provided fraudulent medical and other healthcare services, including arthroscopic surgeries.

The lawsuit filed on December 17th claims American Transit was then billed in exchange for kickbacks and or other compensation which were disguised as dividends or other cash distributions." I don't know how they know this. So I don't want to comment on this. I don't really understand what this is. This might be bullshit. It might be real.

But I do know that doctors... But this happens all the time. I mean, maybe not this, but there's provider-side fraud that is very well known and people have been called out for it. There's a doctor that I was just watching this whole thing on where he... I think it was 200 people he treated. It might have been more that did not have cancer and he gave them chemotherapy Yeah, he's falsely diagnosed them as having cancer and then treated them with camp for cancer Yeah, and some of them got really sick and died. Well, yeah, it's chemo. Yeah, it's chemo

It's fucking killing you and the wrecks your health So even if you survive it like your body's wrecked for a long time afterwards. And did he do this just for money? For money, yeah. Oh, yeah. And his argument was that this term that they always use, you eat what you kill, and then you have to have a business. You have to keep your business rolling. So his business was making sure that people thought they had cancer and then treating

them for cancer. That's dark. Well, cancer and chemotherapy is one of those weird ones where the doctors profit off of each chemotherapy. Oh, do they? Yeah. $34 million in fraud. A Detroit area hematologist oncologist

was sentenced today to serve 45 years in prison for his role in a health care fraud scheme that included administrating medically unnecessary infusions or injections to oh, it's 553 individual patients and submitting to Medicare and private insurance companies approximately 34 million dollars in fraudulent This is the fucking sickest thing I've ever heard you tell these people they have cancer I know right and make them get chemo. I know this is insane. I can't believe I've never heard of this Yeah, it's really crazy. This is like a decade ago.

Wow, this is fucking nuts. How did they catch him? I don't know. That's wild. Yeah, but this is- No, that's so sick. I know people that have told me that they know people that have done surgeries that were unnecessary.

Yeah, because- Just for money. They want money, yeah. Well, that's like the whole like trans-, like, you know, a lot of them. Not just that, like orthopedic surgeries. I have friends. Like back surgeries and stuff. Doctors that won't let someone try stem cells, that try to deny people stem cells. So yeah, the back surgery thing is weird too. Yeah. Well, it can help some people, but it's not the only solution.

And there's other ways to fix your back. I always tell people that there's a lot of different ways to fix back issues. I've had back issues. I didn't have surgery. I was told to have surgery. I had a bulging disc in my neck. I was told that I had to have a disectomy.

I did not. My neck is perfect. It works great now. How did you fix it? I did regenikine. Regenikine. Regenekin is like a very advanced form of platelet rich plasma that you used to have to go to Germany to get. I remember Peyton Manning and Kobe Bryant and those guys, they flew to Germany

to get this procedure done. And Dana White did it too. And then they opened up a place in Santa Monica where you could do it in Santa Monica and I had it done. I had it done on my back. I had it done on my neck. It's amazing. They take your blood, they spin it in a centrifuge, they forget what the exact process they do, and then they pull out this liquid that is the most potent anti-inflammatory inflammation drug that you could ever find. So this anti-inflammation drug, it's made out of your own blood so your body doesn't reject it Yeah This process that they do and then they inject it in the areas around the discs and the discs all settled and they went right back Into place Wow, you know I had it done on my lower back I had it done on my upper back and I had it done on my neck see I think that this is where I'm excited

About AI and stuff like that. It would be Exciting to have AI cure cancer, which they think that it might be able to do. Yeah, I saw that Larry Ellison thing. I was like, yeah, are you making money doing this? Well, obviously, I don't know if Larry, is Larry Ellison saying that? Why is he doing it? Oh yeah, he did.

Like, why are you doing that? Are you a doctor? Don't you own Lanai? What are you doing? But I don't see, it seems like it's not outside the realm of possibility that AI would get smart enough to figure this shit out. 100%.

Yeah, it is possible, for sure. And it's very hopeful. But you know, I don't know if we should be telling people that it could do that maybe in the future. So invest in my company or whatever the fuck's going on, you know? I was at this crazy boondoggle and I saw a bunch of these people talk and everybody was clapping and I was like this is the scariest shit I've ever heard and I think it might have been Sam was talking Altman and everybody's just like yay

let's give him money and they all just saw money everyone sees money here and the the gold hills I mean we're gonna need to build nuclear we're gonna need to power this shit we're gonna there's a lot of gold in those hills and I was in the back with this guy and I'm like someone needs to stop beginning of a Fine yeah, it's gonna happen though. You can't stop it No, unless the grid goes down like or something unless there is something catastrophic Asteroid hits the earth, whatever, which I think there might be one coming, there is nothing we can do. The genie's out of the

bottle. Nat. Well, not just that. We have to do it because there's other people that are doing it. And if they get a hold of it first, it's over. K. That's the race to the bottom. Nat. Is it? K. My friend lived. Nat. I mean, if we all have it and it just it eventually works for Humanity instead of against us. Why do you think that like my husband thinks that our daughter will never need to learn how to drive

Probably he's like she's not gonna need cuz I was like she wants to drive already. She's like when I'm five I can drive I'm like no to drive already. She's like, when I'm five, I can drive. I'm like, no. She is, having kids is the best. I hate that there was so much rhetoric that I was growing up with about like how horrible it is because it is, yeah. It's all by people who don't have kids. But it's so, it is, the other morning I go downstairs and she's like, I'm like, how you doing? She's eating her breakfast. She's like I just need to lay low What is happening

Spearing with news ways to talk just so funny. She's like and she just says the funniest stuff She did a whole my husband sent me a whole thing. She picks up every they pick up everything Yeah, she was like I'm going to mothership and you're gonna go to New York I'm like where'd she get the New York accent front I'm going to mothership and you're going to New York to tell jokes she's telling him all about this I'm like how does she pick all this it's the best thing in the whole world but yeah he doesn't think she wants to drive and he's like she's not gonna need to know how to drive Well, she probably will learn how to drive but it won't be necessary. I think

They're gonna make the argument that autonomous driving is way safer, but I think it probably is oh it is yeah Yes, it can't be exactly no one's gonna be allowed to drive that's probably what's gonna happen That's the only way they're all gonna be autonomous. Yes. It can't be. Exactly. No one's going to be allowed to drive. That's probably what's going to happen. That's the only way. They're all going to be communicating with each other. And it's like. There'll probably be roads that are set up where you can allow people to drive.

How do you feel about that? I don't know. I like cars. Yeah, I do too. So it's not good. I like old cars too. I like driving. Yeah, I do.

It helps my brain unfurl. Well, I like machines. I'm into old machines. I like the. Yeah, I do. It helps my brain unfurl. Well, I like machines. I'm into old machines. I like the way they work. Do you know how to fix cars? I know how to fix some things, but not really. Yeah. I mean, I know how to change spark plugs and change oil.

And I understand what- Like basics. Yeah, normal stuff. But most cars don't even have spark plugs anymore. No, it's weird. Yeah, it's all wild. You open up the back of a Porsche, like look at the engine, you're like,

what the fuck is that? And Teslas only have one gear? Is this, I don't understand how that even. Have you ever been in one? No. Oh, dude. I didn't bring mine today. Oh wait, no, I have been in one. Next time I have mine, you gotta go for a ride. Yeah. Mine's insane.

The new one. Yeah. It goes zero to 60 in 1 ride. Yeah. Mine's insane. The new one. Yeah. It goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds. That's nuts. It's a time issue. How does it do that? Because it has a thousand horsepower and four wheel drive and incredible electrical engines that just instantly generate torque and power.

That's crazy. It just goes, it just takes off. They're amazing. And it also self drives. It doesn't just self drive. It changes lanes. It stops for stop signs. It stops for red lights. It turns stop It just it's incredible changes lanes when there's obstructions in front of it

Can you take your eyes off though? Can you like text and stuff? Can you be a passenger? You could I guess people have fallen asleep at the wheel famously Don't they give you like strikes or something like that? Like Tesla itself? Well, yeah, supposedly if you're not looking like it's kind of creepy. Yeah, it's creepy. Yeah, it's all creepy. But if you want to do it, right, that's how you have to do it. You can't just let people take naps and just press the press play. But isn't that the point? I want to be in my car typing. Well, eventually you'll be able to do that. Eventually, it won't even have a steering wheel. Eventually, there'll be a pod that you get in and it takes you places.

This reminds me of that Silicon Valley episode where the self-driving car drives right into one of the shipping containers and then he's just stuck in a shipping container. I didn't say that. Oh, it's so good. I've never watched that show. That show is brilliant. Yeah, it's weird. But again, if you go back to the people that were on trains and riding horses and you say

one day you're going to be able to get in a car that were on trains and riding horses and you say, one day you're going to be able to get in a car that goes 1.9 seconds, zero to 60, and it's going to be electric and make no sound. You'd be like, what? Well, one day you're not going to need to steer because steering is why people get fucked up because the cars can't detect other cars around them. They change lanes. People make mistakes.

They go forward when they shouldn't. They run red lights. All that's going to end. So I'm like a half hour out of the city and every time I drive to and from, almost every time there's an accident, I always see. The other night I was driving home, actually from mothership, it was like 1.30 in the morning and there was a guy on the left side of the freeway walking. Yeah. There's no space by the way. I was like what is happening right now? People are texting and not paying attention.

No, there are trucks behind me. It was nuts. I was like this guy is either like on drugs and crazy or it's like some Jason Bourne situation where he was like limping, like he's just. He probably broke down and had to walk. No, he looked crazy. Oh, crazy person, decided to flirt with death. It was, I mean, Texas is a little, it feels a little unhinged. Does it, compared to LA?

When was the last time you were back in LA? No, I mean, I was just there. I was there two days before the fires. People are unhinged. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it feels a little wild, like I like there. I was there two days before the fire people are unhinged. Yeah. Yeah I like the I like the it makes I'm coming up on two years here So what do you mean by wild like what feels wild to me? It still feels very like the wild west or like, Texas

There's just an energy here of kind of every time I'm down on 6th Street I'm like I'm gonna catch a stray down here. Well 6th Street is wild where the club is. That's a wild place Yeah, but that's also makes the club exciting you might catch a stray while you're waiting no Not that but all of people the foot traffic, you know, yeah, there's an energy on that street. Yeah. No, I like it Yeah, and I like the kind when I even coming from LA Driving in Texas. I was like these people are out of their fucking minds because it's so much bigger and every that It's like 80 miles an hour speed limits everywhere out where I am So everyone's actually doing 90.

And I would be driving and I'm like, they're like, get out of the way, grandmas. And I'm like, I'm doing fucking 85. Like it's not, like I'm going slow. Are you in the left lane? No. I'd be in the middle lane. And they're still trying to get you out of the way?

Yeah, I was a grandma. I had to out my game. Well, didn't you see that in LA, too? Yeah, but it wasn't, it was always like street racing kids, like maybe out further. How often could you get your car to 80 miles an hour driving around LA? At nighttime.

I mean at night. Yeah, I'd see a lot of people driving super fast at night in LA. More unhinged people, I think. Really? Yeah, because I would see people driving super fast at night. More unhinged people, I think. Really? Yeah, because I would see people driving recklessly on the 101.

Like when I was coming home from the store sometimes, I'd be like, what the fuck? That's me going home though. Like it's, I don't know, it's pretty nuts. Well, when people live a half an hour away from the city and they want to get home quick, that's how you do it. Now it's me. Gotta hit the gas.

Now I'm the one who's doing 95. Well, it's those people too. No, it's true It's it's I don't know. I'm glad I moved here. I remember you saying like it feels my husband's blood pressure actually went down When he moved here Yeah, there's less people but it's also just like everything is less of a battle you said it to me I think like you felt like you could exhale on And when we were talking, you were like, I moved there and just felt like, ah, I can breathe a little.

And I mean, my husband has scientific evidence that his whole energy field got more chill. Yeah, you're not supposed to be living in a place that has 20 million people. I think it's bad for you. Have you ever been to Cairo? No Nuts yeah, it's the craziest city I've ever been in I want to go when you went to the pyramids when was it? How long ago? Oh my gosh. It was crazy. It was right after the revolution. So we went in

20 it was it is 20 It was 2000 when when was the Arab Spring? That was internet times. It was 2012, I want to say, 2011, 2012. What's that? 2010 Arab Spring? So it must have been 2011. That was one of the first revolutions that the internet was credited with starting.

Yeah and no one was there. So everyone was like why the fuck are you guys in Egypt? We got basically a private tour of the whole country. Like there was like we were on a cruise on the Nile and it was supposed to be you know hundreds of people. There were 14 people on the cruise. And we got to see, there's usually lines to go into the Great Pyramids. There were no lines, no lines to see King Tut. There was, no one was anywhere. It was a weird time to be in Egypt. And we saw, I went to Alexandria, I was in Cairo, went and did like a Nile cruise, which was amazing. I mean, you just, you gotta go.

It's amazing. Yeah, I definitely do. Did you get this weird feeling, the like, how did this go away? Yeah, that's what I don't understand. And I think I had like a mental breakdown when I was there. Like a weird, we were in the hospital but not the hospital I want I felt like I should get checked into a hospital. I was we were staying in

Like the Nile across from the all the tombs the like King's tombs And I kept feeling this like pulse and I had like a panic attack when I was there basically It was the weirdest thing though I kept feeling this pulse was like won't want this one you know no no I Mean I was drinking still, but I wasn't doing drugs and I I was like I'm gonna have a I felt I thought I was gonna end up in a straight jacket and I thought I had like a panic attack I had like these crazy dreams and

And I thought I had like a panic attack. I had like these crazy dreams and I was like, oh, this is where it all started for like my whatever it was fucking it's weird Do you think weird energy do you think you're getting this feeling? Like like you said like here it's in the soil There's something in the soil here like this fierce independence because these people are tough and they survived Making it across the Great Plains and all that shit Do you think you felt that they're like this is the the the feeling of this civilization that you see exists in this place? Yeah, it felt to me. I feel like I had like a past life regression if that's even a thing it was like I felt like whatever journey I've been on on this planet it started there and

I went back to the source and it was like a weird like my dreams were crazy. It was I couldn't That thank God the guy was with was like nice and kind but I couldn't I it was like a full-blown panic attack I couldn't even leave the hotel room. And- And you think that's just because of being in Egypt? It was just being in Egypt. Do you think it's because of the like, you knew what the civilization was like

and it had declined and gone and now you're there and you're just like psychologically dealing with this and you're kind of freaking out and putting it on yourself? So they had, they had, I've always been obsessed with Egypt since I was a little kid, just unnaturally obsessed with it. It was like, I read every book about it when I was a kid. I wanted to go there.

I don't know why. And I felt like, you know, I like to believe in past lives because I think it's amusing. I'm like, if I can choose, it sounds like a fun, it's like, why not? And I've always felt very connected to it. And so when I went there and was across from we were in the King Farouk suite, actually, and it had a balcony that overlooked the Nile and the tombs. And it was, I could feel it was like something in my heart, like a vibration. And they've said that these places, like, where there are these pyramids, they can have vibrations. I learned this later, but this was like a weird,

like, it kept hitting my heart. And then I thought they drugged me. I thought they gave me something in my hibiscus tea because I started like, I immediately, I drank the hibiscus tea and I was like maybe they put some kind of like hallucinogen in it. But I think I just, I like, I think about this a lot because I've had friends who have had anxiety

and panic attacks and I know what it's like to like get in your head and feel like you're losing your mind. And I had to baby step my way out of this like panic attack where I couldn't eat eat I was unable to keep food down I just took a bath and was like I'm gonna just never happen to you before no I had had like I've had anxiety I feel for people of anxiety I had anxiety before But it was when I was doing oh, I was smoking a lot of weed and doing a lot of drugs

And I was in a marriage I didn't want to be into to my first husband. So your life was a mess. And I just was lying to myself. Like I think it, I think depression and anxiety can be very useful signposts for something in your life. You're either doing something you shouldn't be doing or you're not doing something you should be doing. You got a course correct. Yeah. It's giving you motivation. Or it's saying like there's something, it's like a soul calling for you to check check in so I yoga kind of saved me from that time I got divorced it somewhat went away I've talked about my hypochondria so that I dealt with that but then I was this was

different it was like a weird my body physiologically reacted to it too. So I, like, not to be too much information, but I like randomly got a period out of nowhere. It was just weird. My body started, like, I threw up, I got a period, all at once. And it was such a, it's like, it's the most supernatural thing that's ever happened to me. Well, there was another time that was really supernatural when I was in Newport, Rhode Island, and I swear there was like a haunting. But other than

that, this was, it felt supernatural. Like it didn't feel normal and it took me two full days to like, whatever hit me in my heart on that balcony and I couldn't, like all I could hear was this like, wah- wah, and it was reverberating from the, I sound like a crazy person, but it was reverberating from the tombs. And then I would just, I remember eating a grape so slowly and mindfully just to like come back into my body and I had these like crazy dreams

and I felt like I saw all these connections, like people in my life present, and it was really, it was weird, it was in that moment when I had a physical reaction, where it was like a scene from a movie, where I was like zap, zap, zap, zap, zap, like all these people in my life, and the guy I was with, thank God,

he could have been a total asshole and been like, you're a fucking psycho, I'm leaving you, but he had had a weird experience with me in his guest house in New Zealand where I would fall asleep sometimes downstairs or we'd pass out or whatever. And I was like, did you have a dog? Because I was like convinced there was a ghost

because I kept feeling some weird sense and he's like, don't talk about the dog. And then it turns out there was like a dog. And his kids, like he had it and then wanted to get rid of it and it's something, this sore thing, he's like, how the fuck did you know it was a dog? And I was like, oh, because the energy

was like a puppy energy and I was like, what happened to the dog? He's like, nothing, don't ever talk about the dog. And I was like, okay. So he's like, you're weird and psychic and like a weird sick, you have like a weird thing. He was like, you're touched by something. and we used to play backgammon all the time and one time that I like rolled a dice and it's I'm sure it was just lint but it like I

wanted to win so badly and then the dice just was on his corner just frozen so he had weird like just on the core tip of it just like he's like what the fuck you're a witch so here's he had had slightly Unsettling things with me that enough that I think he was like alright. Maybe she's not Totally well they say that places have memory right this place I mean, he's just so I haven't been obviously, but I felt weird when I went to Chichen Itza that feels very weird Oh, okay. Yeah, I had to, I was like baby stepping. I still get slightly like,

and my life has never been the same really since. Like it was, it was, it was, and Egypt is, Cairo's bonkers, but Egypt is the Nile. I remember just like cruising down the Nile and being on the deck and you can feel what it was like. You're just like, this is what. The memory.

Yeah. Yeah. And the tombs are all very, it's very, I don't know, it was very spiritual for me. It was like a very, I felt like a pilgrimage that I didn't know I was taking. That's how it felt to me. Look, it makes sense.

It was the most sophisticated civilization maybe ever in terms of their building methods and construction. You have to go. I feel like you would love it. I know I would love it. I know I just don't have the time. I almost did it with Mr. Beast. He went in December.

I was gonna try to do it and do it with him. He wanted to do a podcast there, but I just couldn't make it happen. I had too busy. Yeah, and it's a hike. Yeah, I need to take a good solid couple weeks and go there, it needs to be something that I know that I'm gonna be there for a couple weeks,

and right now that's not really possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I went to visit the site of the Illicinian Mysteries, and I was with Brian Mirorescu. Where's that? It's in Greece. Oh.

And that was wild. Really? That was wild. That place has a memory, for sure. Yeah, just like touching the walls, like it just feels weird. You just feel like this is different, like you're in the presence of something very strange.

That was Egypt. Whatever the energy, I bet Egypt was probably even more incredible, but whatever the energy of that place was, there's some of it left there. There's some weird intangible feeling that's left there that just makes you feel very, very strange. When I was in LA at the Getty Villa, I always go there,

and they had the Thrace exhibit. What's that? Thrace is like a, I didn't know anything about it. It was a, it's a civilization that was like, partially in Bulgaria. I think it came after ancient Greece. There it is. Treasures from Bulgaria, Romania, and Greece.

This statue is fucking insane. It looks like it's looking at you. Look at the eyes, that's insane. It is insane to see it in real life. This exhibit that's there right now is truly one of the most special exhibits I've ever seen. I go to all of them that I can there. And that is...

Look at that face, that's amazing. It's crazy. And I knew nothing about this civilization and society. And the more I learn about it, the more obsessed I am. But all of this stuff had its own, like when the fires were around the villa, I was like, oh god, I hope that all this stuff is okay. I mean, those walls are fireproof and they've got.

I'd never heard of this before. I'd never even really heard of Thrace. I've always been very obsessed with like Greek mythology, Roman history, all of these things. But race is this crazy civilization. Look at the relief with two Thracians. I want to see if I have the. Oh, it's yeah, if you're back in L.A., I think that exhibit is there until March.

March 3rd, I believe. Maybe it says temporarily closed on top. I don't know if it's because of the fires. Probably. Closed temporarily. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think the Getty is temporarily closed. Because the Getty is now open.

The Getty Villa will remain closed until further notice. Oh, okay. I thought they reopened for some reason, but yeah, they must still be closed from the fires. Someday, someone's going to be doing that with the World Trade Center. They're going to be wandering around that. This is where they used to live. They used to go to school here. They used to work in these buildings.

That's going to happen. Yeah, the same way we go through the Acropolis in the Parthenon and wander around and imagine what it was like living back then, people are going to do that with us. Every civilization collapses we're just trying to hold this one off as much as we can and they usually last a couple hundred years which is ours yeah we're not we're pretty young I mean yeah but a lot of them haven't made it past where we got to it always reminds me of that porno for pyro song. Which one? The pets.

Oh yeah. It's like, my friend says we're like the dinosaurs and here we are doing ourselves in much faster than they ever did. I don't know if that's real. The dinosaurs? No. The other thing, we're doing ourselves in faster than them. No, they get hit by a rock.

We might too. I was like, oh no, we're coming to dangerous territory when we find out Joe doesn't believe in dinosaurs. I was watching, we were talking about Candace Owens last night. Candace Owens like said dinosaurs are fake and gay. Is that what she says? Yeah. Oh. I don't know what she means by that. She might just be having fun. This whole Bridget McCrone thing though is crazy. Did you watch any of it? No, no. No, I got no time.

But I did see a comparison to the photographs of the person that she's claiming is actually, you know, like the brother. Oh, the brother. Didn't the brother disappear or something? Yeah, the brother disappeared. And the brother literally the brother didn't the brother disappears brother disappeared and the brother Literally looks exactly like her. I mean to a fucking tea She was kind of on the like Blake and Ryan thing too. I think yeah

She's a sleuth and she's been a sleuth and look at these Okay, that's pretty freaking weird. I'll send it to Jamie Because this is I mean she's just going all in. First of all, I don't even know if this is a real picture. I mean, this easily could be some AI bullshit that somebody created to try to pretend that the brother is actually her. But the brother is like not to be found.

And if that's real, see, I don't know if that's real. I don't know if that's real, because I mean fucking teeth are the same like everything's the same every wrinkle The face is the same if that's if that was my brother if my brother looked I'd be like wait We're not twins, so we're not twins like what looks photoshopped the mouth How so because like you said the teeth are exact yeah exact exact in the exact position, right? Yeah, they're not even almost Right. It looks fake. It looks like somebody doctored up somebody used AI cracks in the lips Right here pretty much right? That's probably bullshit that mouth is photoshopped Yeah, so you can't tell what's real and what's not real online anymore

Nothing's real Nothing you literally can't tell you have to operate from the idea that this is not real online anymore. Nothing's real. Nothing. You literally can't tell. You have to operate from the idea that this is not real. You have to start there now. Right. But also this is just the beginning. Like, what are we going to be looking at five years from now? We're going to be looking at indescribable experiences that are

indistinguishable from reality. Not just like images, but you're going to be able to like, they're, you're going to be able to have experiences that aren't real. Do you, do you think that the like metaverse thing is going to take off? Like people are going to be plugging in to the- Yeah, if it gets good enough. Yeah, and cheap enough. Right.

Because it's kind of expensive. It's expensive, but it's also weird to have something in your face. People feel weird, like wearing this big clunky thing. But if you can sit down and attach something to your head And then all sudden you're in another world. You're an avatar flying on a fucking dragon. We're gonna do it I mean it sounds isn't like red band really into that loves it. He's like famous of them He goes in there every night. He has like parties and stuff. He's a nut It's perfect for someone like him his video game guy loves the internet Matt was telling me like he's like took him to a comp You can do a type 5 and a comedy like him. He's a video game guy, loves the internet. Matt was telling me, he took him to a comedy,

you can do a type five at a comedy club there. Oh yeah. It's crazy. Well, Zuckerberg showed me that too. There's a metaverse comedy club. Yeah, but he's like, you had to know people to get in and he's famous. I was like, this is nuts that this already exists to me.

Well, it's just the beginning. It's only good, that's Pong, you know? And whatever it's gonna be like 20 years from now, it's gonna be something really wild. Isn't it weird to think that like, you might just exist forever in the metaverse talking? Cause you've done so many podcasts, they'll just be able to cut and paste

and make you kind of like- Not even just that. They'll be able to get a map. What if you're a god in the future? Well, they'll be able to get a map of how I think and how I go over things and how I go, well, maybe not, let's look at that. And then they'll apply that sort of thinking. And they'll be able to do podcasts with me, with anyone in history. I'll be able to have

a podcast with Albert Einstein. I always think about this when I see the people who get tattoos of you. I'm like, future civilizations are going to be like, who was this man? He must have been someone important, maybe a shaman or a Brahmin. No, he's a bro cage fighting commentator. Yeah, me and Einstein. Just chilling. Look at him. That's a young Einstein too. I was training a thing to have, I was looking into this. They can already do it. What?

Let me hear this. They don't have their voices for some reason. Oh, they don't have their voices? Yeah. But I've seen one where they did. Oh, Nikola Tesla. Oh, I'd love to have a podcast with him. They already did a podcast with me and Steve Jobs. Did they?

Yeah, an audio one, an audio podcast with me and Steve Jobs. It's crude. You can kind of tell that it's not real, but that's just because it's first generation. That's really weird. Yeah. We got to wrap this up. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, we gotta wrap this up, Bridget. Thank you very much, my friend. Always great to see you.

Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure. Tell everybody how to get your stuff, where to find you. Just go to my YouTube and subscribe. That's the best thing you can do. What's the YouTube? It's Bridget Phetasy. I don't even know my YouTube.

It's Phetasy, P-H-E-T-A-S-Y. Dumpster Fire is the show's Phetasy. P-H-E-T-A-S-Y. Um, Dumpster Fire is the show. Phetasy.com. All that stuff is on your website. Like, Bridget Phetasy online. Yeah. You can find me. Alright, my friend. Appreciate you. Thank you. Love you. Bye. Love you, too. Bye, everybody. Bye. Bye!