The Joe Rogan Experience - #228 - Bill Burr

Episode Date: June 13, 2012

Joe sits down with Bill Burr. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day! Is that a new thing you're doing there, DJs? I'm just really stoned. DJ RD. Powerful Bill Burr. Good to see you, buddy. What's going on? Good to see you too, sir.
Starting point is 00:00:19 It's fucking awesome to have you come down here again. Always, always a good time. And you were telling a fucking hilarious story about eating a pot brownie and about how fucked up it got you. Yeah, I did that. No, it's brutal. I guess this is a story that you had told on our first podcast, but I forgot it. But it's fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:00:36 It's true, kids. Don't just eat pot. That shit is way stronger than smoking pot. Four to five times more psychoactive. Yeah, nobody told me that. The person I was with didn't know and uh yeah so i had two and a half i have a sweet tooth you know oh no i had one she had half of one right she had half of one then i ate her other half i don't remember and then there was another half left and i threw that
Starting point is 00:01:04 because because she was getting high and i wasn't feeling anything and then there was another half left, and I threw that. Because she was getting high, and I wasn't feeling anything. And then we got in a car and went to Newark Airport to go fly to Costa Rica. And by the time I got there, dude, it was insane. I was like borderline, like, hallucinating. Dude, the eating of it is, like, if you go back to, like, early literature on hash eating, the kind of things that people were describing when they were eating hash, these incredible psychedelic experiences,
Starting point is 00:01:34 people don't realize that's not just like getting high. You're not just like smoking a little reefer and kicking back and, hey, this movie's kind of funny. This fucking pizza tastes so good now. No, you ate two pot brownies where you probably should have ate a quarter of one of them because they're fucking notoriously strong. Nobody ever. When was the last time you ever heard of anybody getting like really shitty brownies? Seven days ago. Seven days ago you heard of someone getting shitty brownies?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Me. I got shitty brownies. Where? I think they were mushroom brownies. Oh, you just got them from a dude. Some guy just gave it to me at a fucking show, and then I felt like I was tripping. You're crazy. You're eating things people are just giving you at shows?
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, that's like Jim Morrison shit, walking down the street, eating whatever anybody gives you. Yeah, I go to a dispensary that I trust, and you get used to whatever their sort of labeling is. But when you've got to ask them, like, what do you do? It really is the new frontier. There's like like governmental sticker that's on there like this is you know 4.5 percent well then alcohol it gets silly because they have like x's like when especially baked goods see that with marijuana if it's just the marijuana that you smoke it's pretty obvious you know it's all even if it's really strong marijuana it's still you know what you're smoking you know what the size of it is,
Starting point is 00:02:45 you know how much THC is going to get in there from a bowl or a joint. When you eat something, they have these weird labels on them, like 5X and 3X. But X is, there's no real X. It's not like X equals 10 milligrams. It's just, they're just making it up. So it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, yeah. No, just smelling when you guys smoked it took me back to that fucking horrific.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I could tell. I could tell. Yeah, I'm all set on. It'd be like if you ever puked on a drink, you know what I mean? Like a long time ago, one of the worst I ever puked was drinking rum and Cokes. And for like 25 years, I never had another rum and Coke. Not 25. What am I talking about?
Starting point is 00:03:21 That old. Like 20 years. You just smelled it and it would just make you sick? I just immediately associated with puking outside, you know, I was underage drinking and that type of shit. So when I smelled that stuff, I was just like, oof. I had one of those with Jack Daniels for a long time. Oh, fucking, the first time I got drunk, I got drunk with some friends in high school and oh my God, I didn't, had no idea what I was doing. I mean, there's just no idea how to drink at all. First time you got drunk, you drank Jack Daniel school, and oh my god. I didn't had no idea what I was doing
Starting point is 00:03:45 I mean, there's just no idea how to drink at all. First time you got drunk you drank Jack Daniels? Yeah, yeah at a party with a bunch of my friends that were all they were all like serious stoners but I wouldn't smoke pot because I was Doing martial arts and I thought that pot was a drug and pot would fuck you up But I would drink every now and then with them and And the first time I ever did, it was, oh my God, I was so disgustingly blasted. I'm Jack Daniels.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I was old Milwaukee, just in comparison. Jack Daniels is not the way to go. My dad had a couple of Strohs and I drank like a third. I'm like, am I drunk? There's no way I would do Jack Daniels. I threw up in a car.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I threw up in a taxi cab. I threw up in the backseat of the cab. It was fucking horrible. I could barely remember it. When I talk about something that happened when I was like 14 or whatever the hell I was, it doesn't seem like I'm telling the truth. You know what I mean? It seems like I kind of have a memory of that.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But, boy, is it fucking fuzzy. You know, if I had to describe to you, like, moments in high school. Why, because it was so long ago? It was a long fucking time ago, man. I'm 44 now. When I look back when I was 14, I don't really remember what the fuck happened back then. I remember a few things. I can tell you where we lived.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Tell you what street we lived on. But if I, like, try to get specific with... I went back to where I grew up the other day, and it was really fascinating, with i went back to where i grew up the other day and um it was uh it was really fascinating man went back to the to the house and the where i where i when i went to high school that that era of my life and everything looked different than i imagined it it was it was very strange it was like man my memories of this shit are blurry as fuck like you can start pulling them when you go back to towns then like you go oh yeah i remember this is where we did this and oh yeah this is what we do that they'll they'll start pulling them. When you go back to towns, then, like, you go, oh, yeah, I remember this is where we did this.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, yeah, this is where we did that. They'll start pulling back because you go. How long had it been since you went back home? Oh, it had been a long fucking time. I moved out of Boston in probably 91, maybe, 92. So you haven't been back in, like, 21 years? Yeah. I had been back just every now and then to do gigs.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Like Boston itself made sense to me. But then I went to Newton where I grew up, and I went like the house where I used to live. I went and looked at that. I was like, wow, this is crazy. This is strange. I've done that. Going back to houses when I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:05:58 and you thought the front yard was like nine miles long. It's like you can make it to the front door in two steps. That's why when you were a kid, you thought it snowed more. It's because you were a midget. You were just a dwarf walking around. Every snowstorm was up to your waist. I think that's good for you. I think it's good to grow up in a place where it snows,
Starting point is 00:06:15 to have a little respect for nature. Diversity. We grew up in Boston, man. In Boston, you fucking respected nature for six months out of the year. For six months out of the year, you knew what the fuck was going on. If you had a flat on the side of the road, you might die. Okay? How about that?
Starting point is 00:06:31 How about that? You know, you could be out on your way to Mansfield, and they don't find you in time. The state patrol, you know, the patrol. You get hit by some guy driving by. Yeah. That happened to a friend of mine from high school. Dead. He was changing a tire.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Guy hit the car and killed him Oh, yeah, fuck that man That bring up a bad memory Yeah I'm being convicted of drinking and driving I had to go to a mothers against drunk driving meeting and I was all paranoid He's gonna be like ten mothers screaming at me about what a piece of shit I was and when I went there was the exact Opposite it was like 200 drunks sitting there and some woman trying to tell the story about her kid while all these fucking drunks bitched about their cases two are going like
Starting point is 00:07:11 i only blew a.08 and she's standing up they go well you know you probably should discuss that with the uh with the judge so johnny was changing his tire after bed practice it was fucking no that was a watershed moment for me because I couldn't judge him. I was like, I am in this demographic of fucking idiots. It was like, I am a 22-year-old freshman in college.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'm a fucking loser. And like within 12 months, I started doing stand-up and I got away from all of that crap. You don't drink at all anymore, right? No, I do. You do? I do.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I took a year and two days off. I wish I didn't start back up. It's just a bad habit i mean i don't get like you know but uh i love it i love drinking i love getting hammered i hate uh i hate the next day how i feel yeah but uh i like all that shit i like all i mean all this shit that's bad for you i like it yeah it's a very unfortunate that next day feeling you know you got to switch the waters at some point. That's when you become a professional, but like.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That still doesn't really help. It doesn't really help. I got one buddy of mine. You're wrecking yourself. Yeah, I understand. I mean, none of it's good. I do bad shows if I'm hungover. I don't like my shows.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They don't feel good. They don't have the flow to them, you know. And I just, I hate that feeling. I hate the feeling of being on stage. And it would be my fault if I was hung over. If I was hung over on stage, it's like it's my fault that I'm working at like three quarter speed right now or it's not clicking right now. So, well, I wish I could just have one, but it's not satisfying because you have one and then you want 100. And then and then you drink 100 and then you want a hundred and then and then you drink a hundred and then you feel like shit and like if i just drink one like i've had one at lunch then it's like i i
Starting point is 00:08:50 want to go take a nap if i either got to keep going if i keep going i can go for like you know a good hardcore four or a gentleman six and then i'm done but like uh i yeah do you feel pulled to it no is it like golem in the ring no i just i don't know what that means i just precious i just like precious no no no no yes no i like wants us to drink it's precious yes i don't even know what that is i don't want you didn't see the lord of the rings you didn't see The Lord of the Rings? You didn't see The Lord of the Rings? I went to one of those and it was so fucking long and every time they would fade to black I'd be like, just roll the credits.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Just roll the credits. And then they would open up on some big field and it's just like, Jesus, get the fucking thing back to the guy so we can get out of here. I hate... You know what? I fucking hate all of those movies and I fucking hate people who don't have a sense of humor
Starting point is 00:09:48 about the bullshit that they watched when they were kids. Like adults who talk about Star Wars. Like that isn't a fucking weak movie now when you watch it.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I mean, like how, it's horrible. It's horrific. I was making fun, the other night, the other night, I came home
Starting point is 00:10:05 I got I got free free Cinemax which is the greatest fucking channel ever they either 24 hours a day they're either showing
Starting point is 00:10:12 the greatest movie ever or the worst fucking movie ever and it's all compelling I watched like 9 movies in a row like this fucking channel is unbelievable
Starting point is 00:10:20 so I ended up flipping up cause later in the night they just had some sort of you know soft core porn which is ridiculous now when you have the internet so it just was redundant so I got off of that so I went on to vh1 uh and and they were playing this to show metal mania and I was watching all these bands and these videos that I just thought were fucking sick and they're into the devil dude I was just by the end of it, I was like, how is this better than disco? Like, why did disco get so much shit?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like, I'm not talking about like the Iron Maidens, the Metallicas, but you know what I'm talking about. That middle of the fucking ground, those people with the spiked fucking gloves and all this stupid shit and raw meat. And it was just, it was horse shit. It was fucking, I watched it. It was the dumbest shit ever.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It was embarrassing that i i mean i granted i had all of that music still on my ipod i'm not i'm not above it but if someone were from this generation would have come back and tell me that music was awful and was stupid i would laugh there's like there's no way i could defend it isn't it weird how you look at like if you look at music or you look at movies that's like one like, one of the clearest examples of, like, some sort of evolution or progress is going on with humans. Because, like, the movies of the past, like, so many of them are, they're so clunky and the style of communicating is so artificial.
Starting point is 00:11:42 It looks, it's such a such a shit you know representation of life in comparison to a real good movie until the 60s once they figured out you know like just acting on film like those people just learning how to do it so everything was was uh gonna be not you know let me tell you i'm sorry yeah like that type of acting had to go away with the brandos and the james deans and those guys and then you had to have like with the Brandos and the James Deans and those guys. And then you had to have the... There's movies back there like Jack Lemmon, The Apartment. Well, The Hustler.
Starting point is 00:12:12 It's way ahead of its time now. The Hustler. The Hustler is an amazing movie. Stanley Kubrick. Yeah. That type of shit still holds up though. But the bad movies from the 60s and the 70s? Try to watch Jaws 3D.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Oh, yeah. No, that's just bad. That's a bad one. There's some bad movies. But they still have movies like that. Oh, yeah. For sure, to this day. That Transformers shit, even though I didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:12:36 But if you see it. I never vibe with sci-fi people, like sci-fi listeners. I always get trashed by them because I just don't get it. You don't get sci-fi at all? No, if it's like aliens. It has to be high quality. Aliens is like the good fellas of that sci-fi. On top shelf sci-fi, I'm going to be the Blade Runner,
Starting point is 00:12:56 aliens and that type of shit. But if I'm just going to go, oh, we're in Hoth. I don't even know what the fuck that's from. What is Hoth? That's a Star Wars thing? I don't know. I don't know what that is. Yeah from. What is Hoth? That's a Star Wars thing? I don't know. I don't know what that is. Yeah, like one of those
Starting point is 00:13:06 fucking things with the action figures and shit. Did you like Transformers growing up? I didn't like Chewbacca. I didn't get Chewbacca. It's like, dude,
Starting point is 00:13:17 you're a fucking... He's a fucking awesome guy to have around. He's huge. Can you imagine you could party with Bigfoot? I would totally party with Bigfoot. Yeah, but he should be
Starting point is 00:13:23 ripping somebody's arms off. He's shooting a gun like he's a fucking... Well, he's a badass. He's limited. He knows how to shoot guns, too. He'll rip your fucking arms off, but he can also shoot you from a distance, bitch. He's limited.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Oh, I like Chewbacca. Star Wars? I would totally hang out with him. You know what I didn't like about him? He was a follower. Well, that's true. He started hanging out with all the humans. Next thing you know, he's sitting upright in chairs.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Right. Right? Sipping little juicy juices. Right. Yeah. I wonder if he can understand us. I like him. Could they understand him?
Starting point is 00:13:51 They could speak that? Could Han Solo speak? Yeah. I think it was a language, but we just didn't understand it. He said the same fucking thing every time. Not that many Wookiees. You know? It's like Chewbacca and like, there's no other famous Wookiees.
Starting point is 00:14:04 No, he was like the dodo bird isn't that weird? we're gonna be destroyed on Twitter cause our Star Wars knowledge sucks and you know we're gonna get this shit forever dude there's a fucking million Wookiees there's a nation of Wookiees there's a federation of Wookiees you know not what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:14:22 yeah but there's nothing better than just having a fucking 10% knowledge of those movies and just criticizing them because it's just driving some kid nuts. If you look at old TV shows like Father Knows Best and then watch something good today, The Office. Is The Office good? That's what you're supposed to say. I haven't watched it.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I think it's good. I haven't watched a sitcom in years. I haven't watched it i think it's good i haven't watched a sitcom in years i haven't watched anything since maybe larry sanders i just watched sports larry sanders and unless unless something huge happens what the fuck's his name larry david jesus christ i was watching some classic seinfeld last night that shit is fucking hilarious by the way that was an awesome show larry sanders i don't know why I pulled that out of my ass. But yeah, yeah, an amazing show. Seinfeld, remember that episode where Elaine,
Starting point is 00:15:10 every time she went to the doctor, that doctor wrote down notes about her? I only saw a few Seinfelds, quite honestly. Maybe saw like five or six of them ever, for whatever reason. Because you were headlining and you were on a hit sitcom. I was not on a hit sitcom. I was on a sitcom that was like number 84 in the ratings.
Starting point is 00:15:28 When NewsRadio was on, it did terrible. It was terrible in the ratings. It did good when it was in good time slots, but they moved us around nine times over five years. So there was nobody who ever got cocky. Everybody was like, you can't fucking... There was always that good show that they just kept moving around, and the creators were losing their fucking minds.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But you guys made Syndication, though, right? Yeah, I did, but barely. It's kind of funny. We only did 98 episodes. You're supposed to have 100 for Syndication. I'm pretty sure we only had 98. How does that work? Do you get checks now for like three cents?
Starting point is 00:16:03 Does it still work? Is it halfway decent? I should be asking that on air. No, it's okay. People think you get really rich from it. The people that get rich from it are the people that own it. So if you own the show and you sell it, the actors, they're going to get compensated. They get compensated very well, but it's not like what a show runner makes.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So when people see like, oh, he's on syndication, he's rich, not necessarily at all. Yeah, because it seems like the stuff I do, the first time you get paid, it's great. Next time they cut it in half on the second running, and then all of a sudden you start getting checks for $1.37. But when you're Tim Allen or someone like that who has a home improvement, then he owns, I'm sure he must have owned at least a chunk of that show.
Starting point is 00:16:47 So when that shit goes to syndication, you just fucking rake it in. It was worth it for him, I guess, to stop doing stand-up for a long time. I shouldn't speak out of turn because I don't know if this is really true. This is just what I had heard. It was that Tim Allen was a very good stand-up. You ever watch Tim Allen back in the day? No, that's what I heard. He was a very good stand-up.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And, you know, a fun guy to watch. He was fun. But his show was, like, just a little rowdy. You know, just not dirty, not really, you know, it wasn't like Kenneson or anything like that. But I guess it was too rowdy for the show. They were saying, you know, look, you're going to be on Home Improvement. You know, you should tone that shit down. You should stop performing. Right. You're out there and, you know, you should tone that shit down and you should you should stop performing right? You're out there and you you know, you're saying crazy things about drills and hammers and you know, you're gonna get us in trouble So it's probably wasn't the shit about the drills and hammers. I imagine it was the shit about being okay Yeah that I would want to hear yeah Well, that was a weird thing when I when you hear about that
Starting point is 00:17:43 You're like, well, you could you go to jail and then wind up on TV. That's pretty fucking badass. No, when you get out of jail, you either get into sales or show business. Those are the only two places they don't give a fuck. I hacked a guy up. All right, well, you know, do like five. Bring up the next guy. There was a dude that we knew from Rhode Island that beat a guy to death with a stick.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I'm just thinking about this guy right now. Do you know Eddie Galvin? No. From Rhode Island? Was he gone by the time you were coming around? Eddie Galvin? Yeah. I would remember the guy if he got beat to death.
Starting point is 00:18:18 No, no, no. He didn't get beat to death. He beat a guy to death. Oh, Heckler? I'm sure I'm saying his name right. He was a really funny guy though he was one of those brian holtzman type guys that was just like comics would like get into the back of the room to watch him when he would go on stage just go jesus fucking christ did he just say that
Starting point is 00:18:35 he was a crazy dude who did he beat to death oh some guy i don't know the story i don't know the story. I don't know what happened. I might not even be right. Jesus, what did you smoke before this? This is so random. No, I'm just... I don't even know if that happened. It popped up. You just thought of Rhode Island and this whole movie started playing in your head. Thought of people beating people to death. What's a famous movie that was shot in Rhode Island
Starting point is 00:19:01 where someone gets beat to death? I bet that's just playing in his head right now. That's what he's remembering. Did you ever see Friends of Eddie Coyle? Is that it? I saw that. The Mitchum movie? Robert Mitchum? Yeah. What a fucking great movie that is. Yeah, that was a good movie. What's his face? Everybody Loves Raymond is in it, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Peter Boyle. Yeah, Peter Boyle. Yeah. I just saw that in the past year. All of a sudden it resurfaced. Peter Boyle was a fucking amazing actor. Holy shit was that guy good. That's a great movie. That is a really good movie. I like those kinds of movies.
Starting point is 00:19:32 That's the kind of shit I still like. If I buy something on DVD, I'm going to buy the Dirty Dozen. Yeah. Magnificent Seven, like that era. You know what I bought the other day? Le Mans with Steve McQueen. Steve McQueen, yeah. God damn.
Starting point is 00:19:44 That's a badass movie. They used to come out once a year. They would play that on either TV 38 or WLVI Channel 56. I'm just saying this shit because I know you grew up that area. That's why I watched all those guys. All that Bronson, Lee Marvin, Clint Eastwood, all of that shit. It was on a rotation the same time every year that they would play the 8 o'clock movie. Steve McQueen.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Did you ever watch it? You've seen Le Mans? Yeah. There was like parts in that movie for like 5, 10 minutes where no one said a word. Yeah. For like 10 minutes. Like you watch the movie. They're changing tires.
Starting point is 00:20:18 They're setting things up. People go and get a cup of coffee. All this shit is taking place. No one's talking at all. You're like, wow. This is like a different era. It's a different a different world yeah that's when the directors took over the world of like stanley kubrick you know the world of 2001 a space you know before that whole movement happened that back in the day like the director all the director did for the most part was just make sure that you were in frame and that you said everything you
Starting point is 00:20:45 said and then the second you rapped on the movie the studio took it and they edited the thing wow and it wasn't until uh i don't know i'm really speaking out of turner because i don't i know about as much about this as i do about star wars but like somewhere in the 60s is when the director started taking it over going like no this is my fucking film i'm going to edit this and we want to do it this way that was sort of the first wave of that and when that happened that's when you had all the that's on apocalypse now yeah oh that was sort of the later that was 10 years after yeah but that kind of that kind of movie that's where that comes from yeah and that that was like that during that time like art was ridiculous the music you had the tail end of the Beatles going on.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Those directors were taken over. And then, you know, Richard Pryor was like finding his voice and like standup was coming out to the forefront. Like that whole era in, uh, in art is, is incredible. Yeah. But it's funny. But then they just, you know, that 70s show, they just boil it down to like lava lamps. It was a little more interesting shit going on back then.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I mean, I know, I know it's just a sitcom, but I'm just saying, you know. The early 70s is Nixon resigning, and the late 70s is everybody doing coke, listening to disco, and then like, well, that's that decade. Now we're into the 80s. How about Nixon? Michael J. Fox picture. I remember when Nixon was president.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Do you remember? I remember when I was a kid, listening to him crying on the radio when Nixon was president. Do you remember? I remember when I was a kid listening to him crying on the radio when he stepped down. First Kent State and then Watergate. Has there ever been a more fucked up, crooked guy shooting at fucking college students?
Starting point is 00:22:18 I thought Johnson was in office then. No, that was Nixon. Well, he wasn't there with the rifles, was he? He probably was. That's probably his idea. Son of a bitch. He probably wanted to silence these fucking punk kids. Nixon was a creepy dude, man.
Starting point is 00:22:34 He was. The fact that you're so paranoid that you fucking record yourself having conversations like what you thought was going to happen to you. I think losing to Jack Kennedy just fucked with his head. Yeah. Because I guess he blew him away in the debates on the radio. But if you watched it on TV, Jack was sitting there looking like a movie star, looking like fucking Tony Curtis.
Starting point is 00:22:54 He's sitting there looking like some guy waiting to get his teeth cleaned. It is true. People will vote for looks. No, he went from almost winning the presidency to his entire career being fucking over. He then lost, I think, the governor race or something like that in California, and he was completely out of office, and they were like, that's it. Game, set, match.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And, like, within four years, I don't know what happened. He signed a deal with the devil. That guy was in office. Linda Johnson was growing his hair, going crazy. And Nixon slid in. Bobby Kennedy got whacked. Does it kill you that they just fucking knocked down the Ambassador Hotel? They just don't give a fuck about history out here.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? If it was in Dallas, the entire block would be preserved. Do you think it's an embarrassment? You think that's why they knocked it down? Because that's where Kennedy was shot? No, because I think they do it with everything. I find it frustrating out here because it's very hard to feel grounded out here with just the endless strip malls.
Starting point is 00:23:55 If there's a piece of history, there's a way to be like, okay, this is from then, and this is what happened, and then this happened, and now we're here. This is the steakhouse where John Gotti shot Paul Castellano. Yeah, that type of shit, like in New York. The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, and they got a little plaque. They got all that shit. You can kind of be like, all right, there's a bunch of Native Americans buried under here.
Starting point is 00:24:15 The Astors got a bunch of blood money, and now they have a subway stop named after them. Cooper Union, that type of shit. But you're out here, and it's just like, you know, like they had like, you know, before 9-11, like the big the biggest like act of terrorism, like, you know, blowing up a building. People jump into their deaths and shit was the first L.A. Times building. And it's not the one that's there. Somebody blew it up at like two in the morning at the turn of the century. And there's not I can't find it on the fucking Internet where it was. I don't know what's there.
Starting point is 00:24:42 There's no plaque. There's no nothing. Go fuck yourself. Burn down. Here's the new one. and that's it yeah yeah that's true there's not much of a sense of history here i mean there's like the chinese theater right that's the big thing man's chinese theater that's like a landmark they'll knock that ambassador hotel i guarantee you there's like a burger king sitting on top they don't give it a Staples. It's just, I don't know. That's the one thing out here that fucks with me after a while. We filmed Fear Factor there.
Starting point is 00:25:11 We filmed an episode there. I remember being weirded out. You went to it? I'm kidding myself that I never went. Yeah, I walked through the kitchen. I walked through where he got shot. And what was going on at that time? Was it shut down?
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah, they rented out to for filming they rented out to people make movies there and they were they were making tv shows how how how creepy was that i would have loved it was bizarre i wish i had known i wish i don't think i knew you then but if i had known or you weren't here then i think i was living in new york yeah i'd met you but if you if i yeah if i knew someone was like a crazy kennedy freak that's uh no no just a history like that type of stuff but i mean but that's come on man that's like so would you ever go through that place in dallas have you ever driven through uh daily praza it was weird right no it was that that was too much they preserved the you feel like it's weird that you're not in black and white yeah as you're
Starting point is 00:26:03 walking around i mean they literally if you've never been there to your listeners, the entire block is this, just watch, was it the Zapruda film? Yeah, that's the one in color. You're going to see those buildings. I mean, they're the same color, the whole thing. Yeah, it's a real mind fuck too. Yeah, because a block away, it's 2012. And you go there and it's November 1963.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Bill Hicks had a great fucking joke about that place. He goes, you go up to the book depository and he goes, and I'm trying to do a Bill Hicks accent. And he goes, and they have it marked off and it looks exactly the way it did in 1960. What was it, three? Yeah. And he got shot. He goes, 1963. You know why? Because Oswald's not there. Oswald's not there
Starting point is 00:26:52 either. That's hilarious. Just that line he says as he walks in, oh, so I'm the patsy. That's the one that always sends a chill. You know me. Dude, I think everything is bullshit. I think the NBA is fixed all the way up to
Starting point is 00:27:07 this thing. That's one of the most obvious pieces of bullshit. And you know what? Some fucking sports are fixed, man. That's reality. It's a lot of money. The NBA had a mobbed up ref and then they did an in-house investigation and then they did the Oswald. He acted alone. Nothing to
Starting point is 00:27:23 see here. And they found... How'd they catch the Oswald. Hey acted alone nothing to see here and they found how they catch the guy How did they Do that a Ferrari you know what I don't even know I just remember it came on the news and You know all gamblers were all yelling. I fucking knew it. I knew it. I knew this shit was fixed and Then they tried to say it was just him and i you know i'm not saying they all are uh i'm just saying like look i always i compared to this like like dude remember when you had a day job and shit if two people were hooking up on the down low how long did it take you to figure they thought nobody knew you could tell by their body language you could tell what the fuck they were doing. You can't tell me you're on an NBA officiating team
Starting point is 00:28:06 and you can't tell somebody is fixing games. How many times? Okay, he was kind of weird tonight. Then he's weird again. And then weird again. All of a sudden, you got to be like, this guy is... I don't know. If you're sitting in the crowd and you can notice,
Starting point is 00:28:20 I just don't think another professional referee can't notice. I think it's... They're investigating it right now, I heard. One guy? Yeah. Well, I mean... No, he already went to jail. He's already in jail.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Oh. They already did it. I thought you were talking about the PAC fight. Never mind. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We weren't talking about that, but we were going to. We were going to. I was going to ask you, what do you think about Pacquiao-Bradley?
Starting point is 00:28:41 Was that fixed? That was the worst decision I've ever seen in the history of boxing. Never seen such a bad decision. I didn't watch it, but here's my, I don't know shit about the fight game, believe it or not, to look at me. I don't know anything about it. But I find it amazing that someone could come in
Starting point is 00:28:58 at his light of weight, put on 40 pounds, not lose any speed, actually be stronger. Like, I don't know. How do stronger. Like, I don't know. How do you do that? I don't know, man. Okay. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:29:09 You got to talk to him about all that. I would never. That guy, he'd headbutt me, then sing me a song, and then wait for me to wake up and kick the shit out of me again, right? What do you need explosive? I'm looking for my phone, man. Did you leave it in the bathroom? No, that's what I was worried about.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I'm sorry. I panicked. I think the NBA is just as filthy as boxing. Did you watch the boxing match? Did you see the Pacquiao-Bradley fight? No, I didn't. But I've watched boxing. I see what happens.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's the only fight where I've never heard of a fight before where I haven't met a single person that thought Bradley won. Not one person. I mean, they must be out there. So what's the reason for doing it? To just make a bunch of money on all the people who made... For a rematch? For a rematch.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Because they don't think Mayweather's going to happen. Yes. Mayweather's in jail right now. Yeah. And look, if I... Not eating, from what I heard. Oh, really? Like a hunger strike?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, like, let me out of here or I'm going to die, is how I could tell. Look, I have an AM radio in my truck. I went under a bridge halfway through that story. I don't know. I don't know. That's hilarious. But that's what it sounded like. Like a hunger strike?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Because the prosecuting attorney was like, well, what do you think? He's in prison. This isn't the fourth season. Well... See, this is how rumors get started in bars. By shitheads like me who have like fucking half the information they need and then they just start pontificating to somebody...
Starting point is 00:30:41 On the internet. Who's taking a couple of hits and then you'll back me up. Yeah totally dude i'm telling you listen i'm just happy to be in the conversation yeah dude yeah i bet that's exactly how they did it there you didn't listen to the first half of it because you're freaking out about your phone well bob i know that bob arum and floyd mayweather did not get along and bob arum was Pacquiao's promoter, and Floyd Mayweather tried to make some sort of a deal with him, but he didn't want to do 50-50. Like, they were having a hard time bargaining it out.
Starting point is 00:31:13 But if I was a promoter, and I was a crooked guy, and I was trying to fix something, that would be, like, the perfect fight to fix. Because there's nobody else that's interesting out there now that Mayweather's in jail. So who else is interesting for him to fight? I mean, if you were a mastermind, if you wanted to put together
Starting point is 00:31:34 a conspiracy. I'm convinced. Exactly. It's a brilliant money-making move, and you gotta admire them, really. Now everybody wants to watch Pacquiao get his revenge. Exactly. Dude, I mean, I think the NBA is the same way. I think they have their guys that they want in the ring. They finesse it.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah. Finesse it. And I also bet that Pacquiao's, I bet there's probably some verbiage in his contract that changes how much money he gets based on whether or not he's a champion, based on whether or not he wins or loses. I mean, I would imagine there would be something. Maybe not. He's such a draw.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Maybe that's nonsense. Why would they gamble, something like that? I like your theory that they would try and keep it interesting. I think that's exactly what I would do if I was a corrupt guy. I'm not saying that they did that, but I'm saying, look, if I was like some dude in a Batman comic book that was manipulating, I got this boxing world under my thumb. I don't think it's
Starting point is 00:32:27 like that, dude. It's a business. It's a business and you had a major asset just get taken off the table. What can we do to keep excitement going like that? And I think like, did you hear today on Jim Rome, he asked David Stern
Starting point is 00:32:43 if the NBA lottery was fixed. I know it doesn't mean shit to you David Stern if the NBA lottery was fixed. I know it doesn't mean shit to you. What is the NBA lottery? The NBA lottery is like basically, in most sports, if you have the worst record, when the draft comes around, all the new talent comes out of college or whatever, you get first pick. So that way
Starting point is 00:33:00 the worst teams can get better and it creates some sort of parody, in theory. But the NBA, to make it more exciting, they have a lottery. So the lower 10 or whatever the fuck it is, they all get a shot at possibly being number one. So then they put a bunch of ping pong balls into the thing, and then they pull it out like the Massachusetts State fucking lottery. Whoa. And they do that for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And some people think that they do it so every three, four years when there's a serious guy coming out who's going to be like a Pacquiao level guy, but like a basketball player, as far as like a drawing power of a Pacquiao. And they have a major market that's hurting. They manipulate it where like, you know, like the first year they did it, all of a sudden, New York City, which had the worst chance of winning it, they won it, and then they got Patrick Ewing, which was great for hoop.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Like, that's something, if they do manipulate that, I'm just thinking, you know, that's just a good business plan. You know? But anyway, so this guy Jim Rome asked him, he asked him if it was fixed, which is a fucking hilarious and insane question to ask the commissioner of basketball like he's going to be like yeah you know what it is but he asked it right and and i guess stern freaked out and what did he say he said how could you even ask me that
Starting point is 00:34:16 he said jim let me ask you this he goes when did you stop beating your wife whoa right so everybody takes that literal that i guess that i know i of that, but I guess it's some old school expression that what he's really doing is he's criticizing your question by saying, when did you stop beating your wife? The insinuation is that you're already beating your wife, even if you're totally innocent. So Jim Rohn didn't beat his wife. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:43 He threw it at him like that, saying, that's what you're doing to me right now. Wow. What kind of hidden fucking Stanley Kubrick symbolism is that? I don't know. And once again, I have not heard the audio. Oh, Jesus Christ. I was driving over on the AM radio, going under bridges, and this is what I heard. This is all I heard.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I heard they found Sasquatch. No, this is the thing about me, though. I admit that I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about it cuts down on so many angry emails and it also makes people feel good about themselves most people think they're as full of shit as I am but they but they never have that honest moment with themselves well you're full of shit in this though creates art creates comedy you know yeah by being the butt of the joke. I know how it works. I think I don't know how my bread's buttered.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I got my voice down. I'm a fucking idiot. I make people feel smarter than they really are. I set the bar low, Joe. It's not a bad move. I really like how you're rocking it. Yeah. I shouldn't be here.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I should have died of an appendicitis in 1980. Really? But they had enough medicine to keep me going. I'm one of the weak, Joe. I shouldn't be here. Whoa, one of the weak. Yeah. I'm going to be allowed.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Is that how you feel? Yeah, I think that that's why the sea of fucking morons that's out there, that's what it is. It's all the penicillin that's available. If you just brought it back a little bit, you know, I think we'd have a lot more shining stars out there.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You'd see people driving better. If there was more disease? If you just let the weak die off. And I know I'm not going to make the cut. Well, I think... Dude, there's only so much chicken. There's only so much water out there. We just...
Starting point is 00:36:25 We've out-fucked all of it. But that's a terrible decision because it's often... I mean, there's a weird balance to the way life works. And when you say the weak, often it's those weak that are inventing fucking iMacs.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Those are the ones that are figuring out how to make your internet faster and 4G phones. They would have come up with that. I don't think 4G phones. They would have come up with that. I don't think they would have. They would have come up with it. Yes, they will. You could leave those fucking sword-swinging dudes.
Starting point is 00:36:51 You could leave them alone for a million years, come back. They'd still be hacking each other to death with swords. They're never going to figure out the internet. Dude, I'm not painting with one color here. I'm saying the best of the best of the IMAX guys, the best of the best of the guys who will beat you down. I think. The dream team of human beings is what I'm talking about here.
Starting point is 00:37:10 What I'm saying is the physically weak often are the most innovative. I'm talking about the people when the fucking aliens show up, the guys who got an actual game plan. Those are the guys who are going to figure out how not to get on that spaceship and get eaten. Isn't this obvious, Joe? Walking right down the street here. If I was living on another planet and I want a food source, people would be a good one. We're like fucking rats on a sinking ship. We're everywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:37 We're just scrambling. I would come here. We would be like a nice steakhouse with all the fat, marbled people. Oh, we'd be the best. We're well fed. Instead of corn fed, this one's from Texas. This one's from Houston.
Starting point is 00:37:52 We'd be like the Kobe beef of human beings. This is 100% vegan diet. The guy ate nothing but plants. Nothing but plants. That would be like the edamame of human beings if he ate one of those guys. Cannibalism, everybody. The Joe Rogan experience.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Well, we know that chimps eat monkeys. Chimps eat monkeys. Dude, and they're fucking assholes about it. I hate chimps. I fucking can't stand them, man. I watched this fucking chimp. It's scary. This chimp ripped this fucking...
Starting point is 00:38:21 They had this whole thing. I know you've seen this. You watch all of this shit. They were basically... I don't know what they did they set a trap yeah they yeah that one
Starting point is 00:38:29 and they had they had the infrared thing where you could see where the chimps were going and they had it's really scary yeah it's like they chased them down the street
Starting point is 00:38:36 except it was in trees yeah and they had two of their tufts hanging there and they basically drove this monkey bait right into the trap and this fucking chimp
Starting point is 00:38:44 grabs him. He's standing on his back. And rather than just twisting his head and ending his misery, he just starts digging into his back, pulling pieces out of him. And this fucking monkey's just going like, just freaking out. Screaming. And this fucking thing is just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He's biting on its hips. I remember that. He's, like, biting on its hips. The monkey's screaming. Its little eyes are, like, bugging out of his head. It's dark. He's like biting on its hips. The monkey's screaming. Its little eyes are like bugging out of his head. It's dark. And that's our closest relatives. Yeah. And just like us, they're fucking
Starting point is 00:39:12 evil. Man. I'd shoot a chimp, dude. Would you? If you saw one in the wild? No, no. If he's in the wild. In the zoo? Right up to him. Fuck you. Pull it out. Yeah. This is for the monkey. There's certain animals I could kill. Dun, dun, dun.
Starting point is 00:39:26 No, no. There's certain animals I could kill. I would be, once that person got their face ripped off by a chimp, I would be like a trigger happy cop. Well, that lady, she was giving that chimpanzee Xanax, man. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:41 She was giving it Xanax and wine. I used to give my cat Flonase because it's Persian and always had breathing problems and I was really stoned. I'm like, I'll just put my cat Flonase because it's Persian and always had breathing problems, and I was really stoned. I'm like, I'll just put a little drop on the tip of her nose, and I'm like, that's probably a dumb thing you could probably do. From what it's explained to me, I've never tried Xanax. What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:39:54 This stuff's bad for humans. I have a cold. Now I don't. You still have one. It's like that five-hour energy. It's liquid Coke. I need a nap. Now I want to work all night.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You know what that is mostly it's a lot of vitamin b12 it's not even that much caffeine though those five hour energies are actually healthier like on a chemical profile level than it is to drink i read that they are they are insane levels of everything that's good for you which is never good well it's a little bit at one glass of alcohol is good for you you're not supposed to chug the whole thing. You piss that out. None of those you have to worry about. It's not like you're drinking them all day, every day
Starting point is 00:40:32 and you're going to develop toxic amounts of vitamins. Once again, Joe, I haven't read about it but I've already made up my mind. It's liquid coke. That fucking stuff will kill you. Do you remember that there was some shit called Redline? Did you ever try Red Line? No.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I don't drink any of that shit. It would say like three servings or something. I don't know. This I'm making up. I don't know if it said three servings. Hey, you're driving your car underneath a bridge. You're in my arena now. I'm in your arena because I don't want to get sued.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I don't want Red Line people to piss at me. But it was the strongest fucking caffeinated beverage I've ever had in my life. I remember drinking one. I was tired, and I was driving back from some gig, and I got one at one of those 24 marts at a gas station. And I said, I'll fucking drink this. And I'm on my way home, and I'm like, holy shit. I am wide awake.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I'm thinking all the shit I'm going to do back when I get home. I've got to clean my fucking office. Jesus Christ. I could still get a workout in if I could put an hour and a half cleaning, and then I'd do an hour of kettlebells. I'm thinking all this shit. I'm like, oh, I'm like on crank right now. I'm essentially on some liquid amphetamine.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I don't mess with any of those sports drinks, energy drinks, anything that's fizzy. I don't fuck with it. Coffee? Unless it's like a root beer or a Coke or something like that, I'll do that shit. Okay. Speaking of that, can I plug something I have coming up?
Starting point is 00:41:44 I'm doing something for the oakland a's they got root beer float dale day i swear to god and it's to raise awareness for childhood diabetes swear to god i guess a long time ago uh uh the root beer company they this was their cause and they were into it and i guess there was no irony back in the day. So they are the ones. They are the ones. So I already know. I already know.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Everybody on my Twitter thought that they were the most clever person ever. Like, I didn't notice how ridiculous it is to how funny it is. I think it's kind of funny. I think it's awesome. Let's stop. Come on down. Open bar. Let's end alcoholism.
Starting point is 00:42:22 You know, there's just something. There's something what I like about it. There's something almost like Anchorman, like old school about it that I love it. So I'm going to go up there. And plus, you know, being a baseball fan of the way it used to be where teams like the Pirates and the A's were good before all this, you know, the money markets won. The money markets won? Yeah. Baseball?
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah, in the big business, including the Red Sox. Like, I mean. Roger Clemens, they said that he's still getting tried. He's getting tried again for something now? Yeah, but none of that shit's about steroids. It's about perjury, perjuring yourself. About steroids. About steroids, but it's really you lied under oath.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It's the Clinton thing. It wasn't the blowjob. It's that you said you didn't get one under oath. You swore that you would tell the truth. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah. They're going after that dude for doing steroids in baseball. Leave the bankers.
Starting point is 00:43:12 That's fine. Leave those guys alone. That's okay. This motherfucker trying to claim he's got 300 victories. That's amazing. We've got to stop this. How strange is that? It isn't.
Starting point is 00:43:21 It doesn't freak you out? But, I mean, in 2012, they would waste any time on that. The fact that it got to Congress. Congress. They had congressional hearings. I don't know. Something about baseball. Everybody gives a fuck about baseball.
Starting point is 00:43:36 You got a mobbed up ref. The fucking NBA is able to handle that in-house. Yeah, it was just him. All right, see you later. Go fuck yourself. Let's go. Game's at 7. And this stuff here,
Starting point is 00:43:47 like, they, for some reason, they had to get involved. I don't know why. I don't fucking read. I don't know what's going on. I really don't. I have no idea. So, I never notice, like, how truly uninformed I am until I get behind a microphone because I always just hear the audience going like, dude, that isn't how it is.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And it's just fucking, it's just ridiculous. It's fucking, dude, that isn't how it is. And it's just fucking ridiculous. Dude, it is so fucking ridiculous that I've been able to earn a living and be able to eat three times a day with just the unbelievable lack of fucking information that I have. You just act like an idiot in strip malls around the country. Yeah, but there's a beauty in that. There's a beauty in that lack of information. That's the weed talking. No. There's a beautiful comedy. There's a beauty in that. There's a beauty in that lack of information. That's the weed talking. No.
Starting point is 00:44:25 There's a beautiful... There's a beauty in it. That's your thing. This has been driving me nuts the whole time. Oh, I see. I thought this was added prosthetics to this fucking cat's head. Poor cat's head broke. When it moved in here, that was the first thing that broke.
Starting point is 00:44:41 It was my favorite cat. Are you a cat person? I used to be until recently. Now I'm done with all animals, I think. They're just, you have to give them too much attention, and I don't have that time. Well, cat would be good. Being a bad parent.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Cats are like the loners, man. Go fuck yourself. I'll come to you when I need you. Yeah, you think that, but, you know, it's. My cat's a needy bitch. Yeah, my cats are getting... The older they get. Yeah, my cat is super needy.
Starting point is 00:45:09 When I'm trying to write, it tries to get in my lap all the time. And I'll give her, like, a little bit and try to send her on her way. But after a while, I'm like, come on, I gotta write. Leave me alone. Stop.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And then I have to pick her up and take her out of the room. I have to take her out of the room and shut the door. Cats have that voodoo vibe. Yeah. Like, they know the date you're gonna die. They have, take her out of the room. I have to take her out of the room and shut the door. Cats have that voodoo vibe. Yeah. Like they know the date you're going to die. They have like that look in their eye.
Starting point is 00:45:29 They're definitely different. I would not be surprised if cats couldn't see some shit that we can't see, know some shit that we can't know. They say that animals are the ones that know when earthquakes are coming. They start fucking freaking out and they run uphill. Like when the tsunami came, no animals died in that shit. Well, not no animals died. Very few animals died, like regular animals, like deers and shit,
Starting point is 00:45:50 because they all ran away. They all knew it was coming. They feel it. Like they have senses that we don't need. It's because they're barefoot. They're on their hooves. They can feel the rumbling. You're sitting there on your flip-flops.
Starting point is 00:46:05 That rubber, that's all you need, that little half-inch of rubber. Yeah, and you don't feel it. No barefoot guy died in that tsunami, though. That's true. The last thing people heard before that wave crashed was the slap of human feet running by them. It's true. Remember that video? 100% true.
Starting point is 00:46:24 The dog bit this video? When the dog heard the earthquake? No, I don't think I know this video. There's no sound to this, I don't believe. Well, then how the fuck can we prove it? But watch, you can hear the dog freaks out. I don't know. It was in 2010.
Starting point is 00:46:39 We can find out in a sec. Is this Japan? No, but see, the dog runs. And then watch that oh shit oh that is scary as fuck now here's another view of the dog just running uh the dog's just like go fuck, look at all those cars move outside. This is such a dumb place to live. We live in the dumbest place ever.
Starting point is 00:47:13 We're just rolling the dice and hoping that the ground doesn't open up and swallow the city while we're here. Yeah, but it's all, every place is dumb. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. This is going to be something. You live out in the middle of nowhere, then some grizzly bear can come and eat your face. Have you been watching Mountain Men?
Starting point is 00:47:31 No, but I have the utmost. You mean like out your window? No, it's a new show. It's a new show on the History Channel. I have like the utmost respect for fucking rednecks and mountain men and people who can just live off the land. Green berets. Just fucking drop them in the middle of nowhere and they could just get a fire going and just
Starting point is 00:47:51 live out there. You should know how to do that. This Mountain Man show is a fascinating show. A bunch of guys who live in different parts of the country, all of them in the mountains. One guy runs his whole farm and he puts on classes and teaches teaches people how to survive trains people how to survive in the wilderness so that you could live off the land shows you how to plant kale shows you how to hunt deer shows you how to make like homemade deer stands he's doing all this shit and another guy is living up in montana and this motherfucker has a gigantic grizzly bear that's stalking his house. And they see this thing.
Starting point is 00:48:25 They got this thing on film. And they're shining a light on it. It's fucking enormous. And it's just wandering around his yard. They got footprints of this thing the next day. And they're huge. I mean, it's a fucking giant bear. And it's hungry because it's starting to get snowy.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And he wants to hibernate, but it doesn't have any food in his stomach. So go get him some fucking sandwiches. Fucking have a big bag of raw meat out there. Let him get the itis. That's the last thing you want to do. Yeah, no, he'll chow that down. He'll get sleepy. You can never do that.
Starting point is 00:48:52 If you feed a bear, they always remember where they got it from, and they come back for more. Nah, that's an urban myth. It started by those park rangers just trying to get some press. You know what I wanted to watch? Tweets are coming in now. Fuck you, Bill Burr. You don't even respect animals.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Unfollow. I know. I love that. Like, I give a shit. That's my favorite. Unfollow the fuck out of me, please. I like the threat that I'm going to unfollow you. Dude, if you have one more sports text,
Starting point is 00:49:22 I'm going to unfollow you. Unfollow. Yeah, go ahead. Follow through with it. Yeah. I want to see that show with the people who are preparing for the apocalypse. Yeah, what is that? I wanted to watch that.
Starting point is 00:49:35 What show is that? That's another thing that you're an idiot until it goes down. You know what I mean? Yeah, you look like a nut until everybody needs water. The guy who sticks the money in the mattress is a fucking idiot because what if someone breaks into the house and then the banking system collapses, right? The real problem is not going to be
Starting point is 00:49:51 storing food and containing water because you could do that. You could store food and water and likely you could ride it out for a couple of months or so. The real problem is going to be your neighbor probably didn't do that. That's going to be the real problem. The other people that are close that were poor that were living day to day and check to check, what the fuck are they going to do when the food stops coming in?
Starting point is 00:50:11 That's when the real problem kicks in. So it might not help that you have a lot of water and a lot of food. No, that's why you plant your food in the backyard. You don't advertise it by being in the front yard. Everyone's going to see. Or what you do is link They're going to be coming to your yard in the middle of the night and stealing your vegetables. What you got to do is link up with your other paranoid neighbors. This is like a great beginning to a fucking movie, right?
Starting point is 00:50:33 You fucking... They link up. You got like three or four paranoid families on one block. And when the shit goes down, my house is the rally point. And we fight off all these other suckers. And meanwhile, we're bringing them bunt cakes and everything's fucking cool, right? I only got the first 10 pages.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Don't look at me like this is going to go all the way through. This is like a Shane Black script. Who's Shane Black? Shane? I don't know. Yeah, so then... He wasn't a famous screenplay guy? No?
Starting point is 00:50:58 It's like Red Dawn where you got to kill your classmate except it's your fucking neighbor. Somebody pees into a radiator. I don't know. I'll flesh it out. Russia is getting involved in Syria, and they're selling Syria these giant attack planes. That's awesome. They were talking about this in the news, that now Syria is going to have these crazy Russian attack helicopters.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Can I be honest? None of that scares me anymore. Really? I have given in to the fact that this is our destiny. Our destiny is that we are going to fuck ourselves over and uh you know you can only die once you just hope you're not you don't have a chimp on your back eating your hip like that's not it you just don't want to go out that way but yeah you want to shoot some shit at me and fucking you know blow me to smithereens
Starting point is 00:51:39 how long am i going to give a fuck for i'm just going to be like yeah for like half a second it's over hopefully what if you get your legs blown off and then you have to live as a prisoner of war how long am I going to give a fuck for? I'm just going to be like, for like half a second, it's over. Hopefully. What if you get your legs blown off and then you have to live as a prisoner of war? I'll bleed out. How do you know you'll be able to bleed out? What, am I going to push my legs up against a frying pan and try to cauterize the, is that the right word?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Sometimes they get fused from the blast. No, there's no way. I talked about this on my podcast. If I was ever faced with that challenge, I don't know. I could do that, but if I was necked down, there's no way. I talked about this on my podcast. If I was ever faced with that challenge, I don't. No, I could do that. But if I was neck down, there's no way. There's no way. I would just sit there and I would be going along with everybody.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Wow, he's so positive. I'd learn how to steer my own wheelchair with my tongue. And the first chance daylight I got at a staircase, I'd just fucking steer it right over. I'd sat myself right down. There's no way. There's no fucking way I could I couldn't like people who do that and they can they could write it write a book are the most amazing human beings on The planet because there's no way I could I would pass that step even Hawking's is the craziest situation, huh?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Guy in a wheelchair can't even talk can't we can barely move his hand to communicate and he scrolls through words talk can't can barely move his hand to communicate and he scrolls through words he has some method of of doing that and then this thing reads what he says and and it says it out loud believable yeah and he's like like i said i should have died after the uh appendicitis i'm one of the weak i just it's just no way he's like one of the rare guys took three jiu-jitsu classes I tapped out for good I'm out. I'm out. You should come elbows hurt come come with me tonight, man. Look, I know I'm not a man I don't need to go down there and have it reinforced all you guys could just be for exercise It'll calm you down and make you feel better Dude I'm like the calmest I've been in my life
Starting point is 00:53:22 I'm always gonna sound like I'm in a bad mood because I have the East Coast accent. Right. Look, dude, you're fucking phony calm down. You're like, you smoke weed. Well, I calm down from exercise, too. Weed doesn't necessarily calm me down as it does make me just a little more sensitive. Red Band, are you buying this? You think weed calms me down?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah. Dude, you are this? You think weed calms me down? Yeah. Dude, you are a completely different person. Like, when I met you in, like, 96, 97, you were a good guy, but you were one of the most intense fucking dudes. I never – it was like this switch somewhere in your life was flipped and the shit was on. I don't even know how you slept. You were like fucking goal line defense, middle linebacker.
Starting point is 00:54:09 That shit doesn't mean anything to you. I'm using sports analogies. You were a fucking intense dude. Every story I heard about you at Taekwondo events, I believed all of it after meeting you for literally about 25 seconds. Well, I was transitioning then still. That was still just a few years after I stopped fighting. No, it was true.
Starting point is 00:54:33 He was transgender. When I was a young guy. Crazier when I was younger? I was going three. My entire childhood was spent competing in martial arts tournaments. From the time I was like 15 to the time I was 22 is my last fight so do you think it made you like that or it tapped into something that was already there I don't think I would have been that intense if I didn't have to deal with really dangerous shit on a regular basis it was the fact that you were fighting in
Starting point is 00:54:59 tournaments on a regular basis and nothing ever happened to me. I never got hurt, but I easily could have. I easily could have zigged when I should have zagged and got knocked the fuck out. It just never happened. I only lost once in a kickboxing match. Not that I didn't lose before in Taekwondo, but lost once by stoppage. The only time I ever got stopped was in a kickboxing match.
Starting point is 00:55:22 That was the third fight in a day. And I was terrible nutrition back then always getting sick you know didn't really take vitamins and shit and I was on the fence back then I was like doing stand-up and fighting at the same time so it wasn't like a bad knockout I got dropped by a left hook and then I got up and my legs just wouldn't work and he hit me again and I fell down again they stopped the fight like it was was just he had hit my jaw in the perfect spot and everything gave out. And I was thinking about it when I was going back that there's one of two things I'm going to do. Either I'm going to go fucking crazy now and rededicate myself and try to be a world champion kickboxer.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And just use the fact that I got tired in the third fight of the day as motivation to just run extra miles and do extra plyometrics and do extra rounds or be a stand-up yeah no brainer and I was like the way I'm built yeah I was like I can't there's no there's no reward in that there was no ultimate fighting championship back then there was no so it's like I had to reprogram my brain. My brain was used to always thinking about martial arts competition. That's all it was. It was dodging kicks, landing your own, getting in, closing the distance, and enforcing your game plan.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That's what my whole day was spent fighting in my head. Even if I wasn't fighting, I'd be fighting in my head. When I had girlfriends, they'd sleep over and uh i would i would already love with i would throw kicks in the middle of the night like boom like my my whole body would jolt like a kick because i was having a fighting dream so i was terrified all i was constantly terrified i got really good at it because i was absolutely horrified of it i just didn't want to i just did not want to get my ass kicked and i was already doing it i'm like well this is it. I just did not want to get my ass kicked. And I was already doing it. I'm like, well, if this is what we're doing, then we've got to get
Starting point is 00:57:08 really fucking good at this. This is not something you can half-ass. Dudes are kicking dudes in the face and knocking people unconscious. This is fucking terrifying. I saw it happen so many times. I saw it happen to good friends. I saw it happen to people who were better than me. They just fought
Starting point is 00:57:24 the wrong dude at the wrong time. Which easily could have happened to me. It didn't, but it easily could have. Like, our instructor never protected us at all. He put us, even when we were like kids, we were teenagers, he would put us in the men's division and tell you, like, you're good enough to fight as a black belt when you were like a blue belt or a red belt. He was just, he wanted to see who was crazy. He he wanted to see he wanted to develop a team of people who didn't give a fuck that's so funny that you you could do that with kids like that guy would be he would be on the the like at the very least local news you know it was very cultish though the martial arts schools are very cultish it's yes sir no sir it's all like almost military almost military. It's always bowing when you see him.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You always bow. You always call him sir. It was very much like that. I've never been able to exist in that dynamic, no matter what it was. There's no way I could. I needed it. I grew up without a dad. I grew up without a stepdad.
Starting point is 00:58:22 But my real dad, I knew he was alive and I didn't communicate with him so it always fucked with me so I I needed some sort of intense discipline to get my shit together it's the first time I ever felt like I had any control of my life at all was when I started doing martial arts I was like well finally I can fucking get good at something good at this shit you know but so that's why I was so wound up when you first met me. That makes sense. It took me a while to relax.
Starting point is 00:58:49 If you're trying to be the best in the world at kicking people in the face, that's an intense pursuit. The few fighters that I have met, most of them, and I always felt because it's like they already proved that they're a fucking guy's guy in the ring. That when they're hanging around, they're just relaxed. They don't want any problems. Most of them are really tired from training, too.
Starting point is 00:59:12 You know, when you're a fighter, you know, man, when you're not training. Oh, I never thought of that. I just always thought like, hey, I just knocked the guy out on television. No, they're usually confident. I went into a ring wearing no shirt. It's just like blood sport. I kicked the fuck out of this guy. I don't give a shit about you and your dockers.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Go ahead, talk shit. I don't give a fuck. Like, I always felt like that vibe. So I always felt that they were, after I met a couple, it's like, oh, these guys, yeah, they're chill. They don't have anything to prove walking around. It's definitely that, too. Definitely that they don't have anything to prove. The worst part about being a man is dealing with dickheads.
Starting point is 00:59:43 The worst part about being a man is dealing with dickheads. You know, and the less dickheads, like the smallest amount of dickheads in the world that I operate in is guys at the gym. Nicest guys. When I go to jiu-jitsu class, fucking everybody in the class is nice. There's no dickheads. None. Everybody's just training hard, doing their thing, and it's fun. I think it's way easier to be a nice guy when you know how to fight.
Starting point is 01:00:10 It's just way easier. It removes a big thing that fucks with a lot of dudes' heads. It's also easy if you don't know how to fight, like me. If you just be nice. Well, be nice, too. I believe in being nice, too. It's not like people fuck with me. I really get away with very little fucking with most people are really nice to me people say is it weird like people coming up to you that you know you don't know them they know you no most of the time they're just being
Starting point is 01:00:33 nice like 99.999 percent of the time they're being nice you know so but i'd rather be the guy who can defend himself you know than a guy who worries about some weird fucking person doing something to them. I don't want to plant any seeds in your head. Describe me. I don't overly worry, but I've got, I live in a house now,
Starting point is 01:00:56 and ever since I've lived in a house now, there is something fucking unsettling about that, where it's just you in that, if someone comes in, they're getting you, whereas like an apartment building, there's like, there's a bunch in that if someone comes in they're getting you whereas like an apartment building there's like there's a bunch of options it's like a buffet you know apartment building thing is weird too because you don't know what the fuck these people are up to you know who knows what that guy where's this guy making his money but i know where you
Starting point is 01:01:18 live so if you're gonna do something you're gonna fuck with your neighbor that's weird too though isn't it when you like you know you look at each other across the hall. Hey, how you doing? You shut your door and he shuts his. His fucking door to his. He's sleeping right there. He's like feet away from you. Or he moves out and then you feel like a loser.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I bet he's going to a better building. They're never moving back home. They're always moving on. I remember Patrice used to talk about that. He used to talk about how people moving out of, when he was young, when he would see neighbors moving away, he would always be looking out the window all sad. He would get, like, depressed.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Like, I don't know why. We used to laugh our asses off talking about that kind of shit. Just picture Big Patrice sitting there. A little sad Patrice sad all bummed out yeah like he's in some sort of christmas episode or something uh i lived in a real cheap apartment complex in revere when i was uh first moving out on my own i lived with a girl there and uh i remember it was really cheap it was a shady place it was though it was not good right it was really cheap. It was a shady place. It was not good. Right. It was one of those.
Starting point is 01:02:29 And all these fucking people would be cooking weird shit. You would walk down the hallway. You'd smell all kinds of weird ethnic food. It was just very strange. Like the aromas of food were so potent in poor neighborhoods. You know? It's very rare you walk into, a real high-end apartment complex and you smell some, like, fucking... Like goulash.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Yeah, some intense spices. Someone's fucking making fish head soup. You know what's funny is I can hear that metal door slamming and echoing my first apartment when I lived in New York when I would walk in. There's just that overwhelming smell of somebody cooking some fucking cow's head
Starting point is 01:03:09 they got it on the market me and Bobby used to live together in this place in the Upper East Side with this Nigerian dude and he came home one day with all this fucking meat that he had bought or whatever and cooked Bobbyby salmon bob ate it kind of tasted a little gamey what he's like what is this and he just was like he was like it's
Starting point is 01:03:28 cow he goes i know what kind of like it's cow like i don't know he was eating a hoof it was just it wasn't like it was like part of the like the cheek or something i don't know what the fuck he was eating but it was the weirdest looking the texture of it. I didn't fuck with it. I didn't fuck with it. That's when I Bobby should have known that he had some sort of food issue
Starting point is 01:03:49 or he was starving because he said fuck it. You know Bobby's a more open dude anyway so he's like yeah I'll try this shit and I looked at it
Starting point is 01:03:57 and I was like I'm not fucking with that. That looks like that looks like a tree stump. That's supposed to look like a rump roast. He pukes easily doesn't he? Does he? Doesn't he to look like a rump roast. He pukes easily, doesn't he? Does he?
Starting point is 01:04:10 Doesn't he have a gag thing where he just starts puking non-stop if he hears something? You know, I've never seen that. Doesn't Ebrock have that? Yeah, I think he does. Remember when Jimmy had his belly button and he came in his belly button and he put his finger in his belly button and he was making people smell it?
Starting point is 01:04:23 I smelled it. Why? It's because I wanted to know know i wanted to know what it smelled like what it tastes like taste it you silly bitch that's the most disgusting i did smell it though i gotta tell you though the guy asked me if i wanted to smell it you know right there i don't want to be rude the closest i ever came to puking uh in public like that was uh on the opiate anthony oh you were fucking there yeah the uh baby bird baby bird oh my god yeah no before that that they had the egg the eggnog yeah drinking contest oh my god that to this day is the most fucked up thing i've ever seen and it was absolutely brilliant and uh it was uh uh nathaniel
Starting point is 01:05:08 he he named you you were the one who said the only thing that can top that is if somebody leaned back and opened their mouth and had somebody puke into it so you you had the idea and then nathaniel named it the baby bird called it the baby bird which made it that that made it because you think about you ever seen a baby bird get fed by its mother? Yeah. The mother essentially opens its mouth and fucking yaks in the kid's mouth. It's so hard to watch. It's so glorious.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Do you know what? I told that story three days later. Tell the whole story so the people who didn't see it know what happened. It was an eggnog drinking contest. Even if you like eggnog, eggnog is fucking disgusting. It's unbelievably sugary and heavy. Dude, every time I tell this story, I start to gag. I haven't told it in a while.
Starting point is 01:05:57 It's an incredible story. So basically what you had to do is you had to do a double shot of eggnog every 30 seconds or once a minute. It was like every few seconds. I don't remember what the time was. It couldn't be once a minute because he had 72 shots. So it couldn't have been once a minute. No, he didn't know. He was up to 40-something.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Really? I don't remember. Who the fuck knows? Why do I want to say 72? All I know was you wouldn't think it would be bad. Yeah, let's just watch it. That's the great Pat Duffy. I remember this young man's name.
Starting point is 01:06:31 He's an intern, and I remember his name. You are a savage, sir. This is Pat from Woonake. 73. 73. Thank you. Thank you. How's the memory, kids?
Starting point is 01:06:44 73. Yeah, so anyway, Pat from Woonake is, by the way, a diabetic. Who lost a toe to the disease. So he has to get this out just right after it comes in. And it starts going, and he's, oh, my God. And when it comes out, it comes out in giant clumps at first, but then after a while, it comes out cartoonish. Right there. That's cartoonish.
Starting point is 01:07:07 That is cartoonish. Right there! That's cartoonish! That is cartoonish! That is cartoonish! That is... Oh my god! That's cartoonish! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my! That's insane! That's insane! The sheer volume is insane! Oh my god, again! Guys, the Peter North throw up. Oh my god. Spit on him.
Starting point is 01:07:58 That is the most fucked up thing I've ever seen. How do you top that? You can't top that. That was the greatest moment in radio history. And only Opie and Anthony would be fucking crazy enough to do something like that. That was amazing. That was genius. I've only been watching the Paltalk version this whole time. I just never really watched the real version.
Starting point is 01:08:18 I've always been watching the Paltalk version. It's so much better quality. Oh, yeah. There's a couple different cameras in the room. I told that story like three days later. Look at his fucking head. That's insane. Check it out on openanthony.com if that's still there.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And then they try to clean his head off. They didn't even have a shower for this young man. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. The greatest moment in radio history because it was just so... The stars aligned with a guy who's 300 fucking pounds who could drink 73 shots of eggnog there's no morning show has ever even come close to that nothing in the neighborhood and then just the stars aligning with this pat duffy character
Starting point is 01:08:58 being so incredibly insane he had already built his way up to it what about all the shit that that led up to that there was all those funny nicknames we had. There was the one guy, he would take the shot, and then when someone would go to puke, because basically, we didn't explain, last person to not puke wins. So what would happen was people would be getting full of eggnog, and you're not going to puke,
Starting point is 01:09:19 but then someone would puke, which would make you puke. So this fucking guy, every time someone would go to puke, he would walk three steps away and just face the wall. We started calling him Blair Witch. Remember that? And then there was the other guy who already puked
Starting point is 01:09:33 and he puked into like a fucking, I don't know, like a, what do you call it? The thing you pour like corn? A pitcher. He puked into that then poured it on Froot Loops
Starting point is 01:09:42 and would start eating his own puke in Froot Loops to make other people puke. That was the terrorist. He was taking people out with him. And I just remember there was so many. And then I also remember. The terrorist is just taking people out with him.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Yeah, and then there was Pat Fumunaki, the champion, and after he won, he kept drinking. And we were like, like a true champion, he's only competing with himself. And he just, he put the record And we were like, like a true champion, he's only competing with himself. And he just put the record out. He crushed the record. He crushed it with a mallet. That had to be like a gallon of eggnog. More, I think. It was like buckets.
Starting point is 01:10:17 These are double shots. I mean, he's not lying. Bill's not lying. If you go and watch it, you will not believe. What is the video you just played? What version is that? There's a bunch of them. Yeah, I just went to YouTube and typed in Opie and Anthony.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Baby Bird? Baby Bird is the first one. Don't do the Pal Talk version. That one's the bad quality version. Okay. One right below. So Eggnog Champion. Most insane.
Starting point is 01:10:42 You know, this thing. It's cartoonish. I've been trying to tell this i when i i told uh when nia had one of her friends over and i was telling the story dude and i was literally laying on the floor crying laughing retelling the story it's like three days later while gagging and i remember nia's friend was horrified she finally says where did they get these people and that's what set me over the top. I was like crying, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And that was it. And I almost puked. If I actually went into detail and went to tell that story, I would start gagging again. I don't think I ever won't gag telling that story. That was the most disgusting thing. And the amount of people on the staff, everybody gets the point, the amount of people who puked.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Oh, yeah. The smell of fucking stomach lining. Oh, God. What the hell it was. That's my Sunday night. I'm now finally over that, but I had food poisoning, and it fucking ruined my life.
Starting point is 01:11:41 It's such a great way to lose 10 pounds. And it's true. I did lose about 9 pounds. Yeah, that's not good, dude. You got to be careful. You got to be careful with your sushi, son. And I can't even eat now. It makes me even feel nauseous.
Starting point is 01:11:56 You should use it as a time to get in great shape. Yeah, I've been eating watermelon. Where did you eat? That's good. Sushi at Katsuwa or whatever it's called at Glendale, Americana or whatever. And that's a decent place, right? That's a nice place. But it was Sunday sushi.
Starting point is 01:12:10 People are like, dude, what the fuck? You eat sushi on a Sunday? Never do that. I'm like, oh, yeah, it was happy hour sushi Sunday. That's the worst time to go. Oh, because it's Friday sushi? It's old fish, yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Oh, now getting rid of it. Yep. I never thought about that. Do they not have a seven-day fish market? I don't know, but I guess that's the thing, Sunday sushi. I'd like to get Gordon Ramsay on in the case. It's so amazing how we've been able to cut that out of our lives, that whole food gathering nonsense.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Like, when I was watching this Mountain Men show and watching this poor guy with shitty rodeo knees, he's going out looking for deer, like trying to get a deer, some meat for the freezer, while he's looking for bears constantly. Like what an amazing change of life it's happened when they figured out how to cut out that whole gathering food. That was already bad enough. Bad knees looking for a deer, and then he does the over-the-top while looking for bears. Yeah, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You've got to watch the show. It's a great show. I just watched it last night for the first time. I'm comfortable being in the Matrix. I'll it's amazing. You've got to watch the show. It's a great show. I just watched it last night for the first time. I'm comfortable being in the Matrix. I'll starve to death. It'll be a brutal month, and then that'll be it. I don't want to be walking around with my bad back out in the fucking woods trying to shoot deer in the face.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I don't want to do it. Trying to gut it with some sharpened stick. You got me, all right? I'm part of the week. I'm not supposed to be here. That's just someone like you. You'll tap back into your, when you threw kicks at night. Yeah, I'll just grow a crazy mountain man beard, wear animal skins, make my own spears.
Starting point is 01:13:41 That's the name of a good Bruce Springsteen album. Make my own spears? No, when I threw kicks in the night. Beers. That's the name of a good Bruce Springsteen album. Make My Own Spirit? No, When I Threw Kicks in the Night. When I threw kicks in the night. When I threw kicks in the night. When I threw kicks in the night. They just had something. It would have to be like a breakup.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Marjorie Wordman to be together. And something about being young and getting out of the town. Yeah, and then getting away from all the boozers. And then you go into the chorus
Starting point is 01:14:17 when I threw kicks in the night. I would split my inseam when I threw kicks. He still writes songs, huh? Bruce Springsteen still is out there rocking. I have to see that guy live
Starting point is 01:14:29 because Jim Norton's finally the guy who put me over the top because Jim was yet another guy who I don't want to speak for him, but he didn't seem like he was a fan and then saw him live and was just like,
Starting point is 01:14:39 dude, you got to see this guy live. He's just fucking insane. As a performer, you got to go see the guy. Yeah, that's what Brian Callen was saying. The dude's like in his 60s he does full back bends and slides on his knees on stage just like you know he's like he's in fucking tremendous shape puts out a three and a half hour show i did a stand-up show and he was one of the acts on it it's what a good
Starting point is 01:14:57 what yeah sickest lineup ever i did a thing called i know i've told this on like 20 different podcasts but it's a great story i was uh i did this this stand-up for the troops it's this great benefit um it was at the beacon theater and this was the lineup it was the max weinberg band was was uh the playing the music in between the acts and beforehand and afterhand john stewart hosted uh first act out of the gate was tony bennett then it was uh uh bruce springsteen then they auctioned. Then it was Bruce Springsteen. Then they auctioned off one of Bruce Springsteen's guitar, went for like $100,000. Then Joe McHale
Starting point is 01:15:32 had to follow that, somehow did that. Then me, and then Seinfeld. That was the show. It was insane. It was insane. And I remember looking over, you know, waiting, you know, didn't want to go over, because that's like Jerry, that's the king, I don't want to piss the guy. And I looked over, and it was insane and I remember looking over you know waiting you know didn't want to go over because that's like Jerry it's the king I don't want to piss the guy and I looked over and he was
Starting point is 01:15:49 literally like backlit with his suit on like Jerry ready to go out on stage was like fucking iconic and I was looking over like going I'm at the Beacon Theater and that's Jerry Seinfeld right there gonna go on next one of the great great nights uh of being in this business man but i saw bruce spring sang one song he was jumping all around i was on the piano and everything and i was just like wow this guy's i can't do that this guy's got 25 years on me what song was it i don't know i never got into his stuff so were you the first guy to do stand-up on no joe mckale had joe mckale did joe had to yeah he's a good dude man i did that yeah had to, yeah. He's a good dude, man. I did that talk show. Yeah, he's a great guy.
Starting point is 01:16:25 He's a great guy. Really nice guy. It's nice to know there's still nice guys out there. You meet people that hang out with them for the first time. My theory is most people are. A vast percentage in our business are. In comparison to the way people think of us, people think of comedians as being like,
Starting point is 01:16:41 comedians are always miserable. They hate life. They're really only funny when they're on stage. There's a lot of stereotypes that go along with being comedians as being like comedians are always miserable they hate life they're really only funny when they're on stage there's a lot of stereotypes that go along with being comedians a lot of them there's a lot of truth in that this is some before some but the vast majority you were miserable for a while yeah in what way that just you know what happens in your late 20s and early 30s when you don't think you're a psycho and you're not you don't think you're out of your mind and then you realize oh wait a minute i'm completely out of my fucking mind i'm just you know i you know what you're just walking around saying hello to people hi how are you nice to
Starting point is 01:17:13 meet you you know paying your bills on time and you think you're you're normal and uh then all of a sudden you know some shit happens you're like oh fuck i'm this guy i need to work on this need to work on that and uh you know hopefully you make the right choices by the time you get to your late 30s i don't know this is just how it happened for me i started like leveling out being like all right what am i gonna be angry the rest of my fucking life i certainly do that too you know i mean pot can't be 100 to blame for uh me calming down but uh no But it's a bunch of things. There comes that point you're either going to
Starting point is 01:17:46 steer it into the wall or you're just going to try to chill a little bit. But getting back to the other thing though, there's just way too many talented fucking people in this business for you.
Starting point is 01:17:57 I feel even if you were a dick to get away with it. Because all they're waiting for is that first project you do to flop. They're just looking for, I mean they're going for is that first project you do to flop. Yeah. They're just looking for, I mean,
Starting point is 01:18:06 they're going to hang with you while you're making them money. Well, there are a lot of people that are dicks and, you know, then they stop working.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I mean, I have friends that are directors and they tell me horror stories about having to work with some crazy lady who yells at them on the set and,
Starting point is 01:18:20 you know, demands changes to her character because her character wouldn't do this and they're like, my God, we've got to get through this fucking season with her and then they're going to kill her off.
Starting point is 01:18:27 I mean, it's like, they tell you stories about shit like that and you're like, God, this business is just... No, you can get away with that for a little while, but like, you know... Not very often. Yeah, the next you is getting off the bus every day.
Starting point is 01:18:40 You know what I mean? If you're just going to go the performer route, so there's always going to be somebody younger, fresher face, whatever. And so if you can't, I don't know. I don't know how you survive doing it the other way. Well, we all know, guys. I've yet to be on anything.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I mean, I haven't done a lot of acting stuff. But everything I've ever done, everybody's been unbelievably nice. Yeah, but we all know guys, especially comics, that are kind of cunts. Yeah, but how far do they get? Some get pretty far. They get pretty far. You're killing me. I was thinking there was a justice in the world.
Starting point is 01:19:13 No, well, the ones, the examples that I could pull up, you know, especially my favorite example, it's kind of been diffused, you know. But Mencius is a bad guy. And that's, you know, hecini is a bad guy. He was a vindictive guy. What he was doing in comics was he was going after them.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Take their shit and do it right before they went on stage. That kind of thing. Take your clothing a bit. Do it right before you go up. Try to kick your legs out from under you. That was a bad guy. That was a guy who did it for a long time. He did it for a long time.
Starting point is 01:19:44 It didn't last because eventually people figured it out. But for a long time, it did work. Yeah, that's something bad. I've never had to be around somebody like that. We're lucky. Show business shelters them, though. There's a little bit of shelter. Subtle stuff I've been around, but nothing to that hardcore level.
Starting point is 01:20:04 I keep thinking that's Ellen DeGeneres. Who, you? No, Hillary Clinton. I thought you was talking about me. I thought you were looking at your video. You're going, what the fuck is going on? No, Ellen's way, way better looking than Jesus Christ. Don't do that to her.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I just out of the corner of my eye. Hillary Clinton stole Ellen DeGeneres' old school haircut. Hillary Clinton. Who she stole from Wayne Gretzky, if you really want to be honest. Yeah, that's a weird kid, man. Okay, this is how that haircut goes. Before her, Ellen DeGeneres had that. Before that, it was Wayne Gretzky.
Starting point is 01:20:50 That's Patrick Swayze, bro. That's Roadhouse. That's what's amazing about the 80s is a guy had Hillary Clinton's haircut. Like, a lot of guys had Hillary Clinton's haircut in the 80s. A lot of guys did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I would have if my hair didn't grow out like an afro. I would have rocked that thing. I tried to grow the mullet. I did. But my hair was too afro-ish. It would just grow out. So I look like a red-headed Juan Epstein. So I was like, I can't do this.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Juan Epstein. He hits us with a Welcome Back Cotter reference. Nobody knows who Juan Epstein is, man. He just passed away. He did? He just passed away a few months back. He played my brother on news radio. He did?
Starting point is 01:21:37 How cool was it to meet him? It was cool. It was Nick DiPaolo, Brian Callen, and Epstein from Welcome Back, Hotter. Did he tell you any Juan Epstein stories? No, really. He was just happy to be working, nice guy to be around, friendly guy. It was hard for him, man. It was hard for a lot of those dudes that didn't work, you know.
Starting point is 01:21:58 They did this big hit sitcom, and then they had a hard time getting work after it. Meanwhile, John Travolta takes off and becomes this fucking gigantic movie star and just sort of eclipses them. And then it becomes a story of, well, how come these guys haven't gotten any work when John Travolta is a superstar? You were in the same movie, TV show as John Travolta. How come you're not a superstar?
Starting point is 01:22:19 I don't know how actors do it, because if you're on a movie and it ends as a comedian, you still have it. You just be a comedian. if you're on a movie and it ends as a comedian you still have it you just yeah be a comedian then you put on a new hour special and you can like reinvent yourself and all that like i think trying to make it just as like an actor character actor that's one of the hardest things ever it's got to be brutal sitting around and that's why so many of them are so phony because they they're constantly being politicians they constantly have to sort of protect their image and sell a certain image.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I find the same thing with actors. I find they're nice. It's definitely a different energy. It's a much more not as intense. As comics? Yeah, comics. Comics is just the
Starting point is 01:23:00 you're up there by yourself. People are going to heckle you. You have defenses up where they're kind of more like, they're a little more open. You know, they came about this in like acting class, and everybody's got to go up there, and much more healthier sort of easing into this business. Sort of, but I mean, that's the only way to be as a comic. It's a nutty fucking business.
Starting point is 01:23:24 No, absolutely. You're going to go on stage comic. It's a nutty fucking business. No, absolutely. You're going to go on stage and some shit that you wrote down and made up, and you're going to tell it to these people and they're going to laugh? Are you sure? And they're going to pay money to hear that? For an actor, all he has to do is pretend to be crazy. The first time you did that, you wrote something, you thought it was going to be funny, and you just say it and there's nothing.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Just that fucking invisible kick to the chest. You're so confused. Like, I knew this was going to be a huge bit for me. Like, I just think I found my new closer. Or what's worse was when you had one, and it destroyed, and then you went out, and the first time you tried to recreate what you did the night before, but you were thinking about the night before, but you didn't realize the reason why it worked before
Starting point is 01:24:02 was because you were in the moment. Then you try to do what you did the night before and it falls flat. That quiet ride home with yourself. Yeah, and there is a reality of different fucking crowds. You know, a lot of people like to say it's never the crowd. That is absolute horseshit. Because there's some crazy fucking crowds. And there's some crowds where you'll tell a joke.
Starting point is 01:24:23 You know it's a great fucking joke. This is your fucking ace in the hole. Starting off slow, but I'm going to hit him with this, and away we go. And clunk. It just comes out. No, this isn't the crowd. There's something wrong with this fucking crowd. When you're just showing up, did you do any strip clubs or anything like that?
Starting point is 01:24:38 Did you ever emcee a strip club? Strip clubs. Rock and roll show. I'm trying to filter all the ones that I went to, and I'm trying to think if there's ever a show. There ever a show? Yes. Did you ever do road gigs?
Starting point is 01:24:53 Yes, I did. You did? Where? I did. There was this titty bar in New York City, but this was weird. On the other side was the titty bar. It was during that Giuliani stuff where he was like,
Starting point is 01:25:03 okay, 40% of this can't be pornog... Pornog... Pornog... Yeah, pornographic. Pornographic. Pornog... Pornography? Do you see how fucking stupid I am?
Starting point is 01:25:13 I was trying to say pornographic. I said pornografe. And I thought I was on the right track. And I just kept going, pornografe? It's gonna come to you. It's gonna... That's hilarious. Fuck, pornographic so uh so so technically we were there but there was no girls walking around with like titties out or anything like
Starting point is 01:25:34 right oh it just reminds me i remember some girl told me a street joke a really bad street joke and it involved lifting up her dress and show me her pussy what the hell was it and i and i couldn't get it hard to tell her that i already me her pussy. What the hell was it? And I couldn't get it out of the heart to tell her that I already heard that joke. And she went all the way with getting the tattoo. You want to see my pussy? That's what she said. You want to see my pussy?
Starting point is 01:25:53 And she lifts up her skirt and it's a tattoo of a cat. And says, I guess I'm mouse-aided or something. What? How the fuck does it go? Oh, I don't know. Yeah, it's a tattoo of a cat. How the fuck does that go?
Starting point is 01:26:03 I don't know. I can't remember the end of the joke. And she does that go I don't know I can't remember the end of the joke and she did it and I'd already heard the joke and I want I laughed anyways I didn't have the heart to be like yeah I already heard that one someone else has that joke on their body um am I bombing at this point I feel like I am I I have to go I have to go to this this uh this you gotta leave pit bull thing yeah what is the pit bull thing I don't know they're always trying oh it's for a shelter that uh that gets people to rescue those beautiful dogs that are fucking awesome, and they have you back, and they'll love you to death.
Starting point is 01:26:32 I love those dogs. Rip somebody's face off when they come to the door. They're tough action around other dogs. You have to be careful. Dude, you know what it's like? It's like driving a sports car. You have a lethal weapon. There's a responsibility. It's like owning a gun. It's like driving a sports car. You have a lethal weapon. There's a responsibility.
Starting point is 01:26:46 It's like owning a gun. It's like anything else. It's not like either one of those things because you can control both of those things. You can't control an animal that has its own will and desire. You need to step into my dojo. Dogs, I love pit bulls to death, but they're dangerous dogs.
Starting point is 01:27:01 They are dangerous dogs, but you respect that. But you have to respect that they are dangerous. That's why I worked with a trainer for almost a year. And at this point, me and my girl could take our dog, walk it through a bunch of five-year-olds holding raw meat, and there wouldn't be a fucking problem. There just wouldn't be. You say that, but you don't know that.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Because dogs do strange things. I had a dog kill one of my dogs. Yeah, I know. Came home and saw a fucking bloodbath in the kitchen. I never would have my dogs. Yeah, I know. Came home and saw a fucking bloodbath in the kitchen. I never would have suspected that. I know. But also, how much did you read up on the breed before you got it? Oh, I read up a lot.
Starting point is 01:27:31 I've had them for years. I've had them for most of my life. All right. I don't want to get into this debate. No, look, I love the dogs. I love the dogs. You know, I sat here. I supported you and your lifestyle.
Starting point is 01:27:39 And as I'm walking out, hyping my fucking little charity thing I'm going to, all of a sudden, I'm getting static. No. I see how this game is. I'm sorry. You know what this is? I do love them. This is a bait and switch. I do love them.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I've had a bunch of them. I am not going to. Look, dude, all dogs are fucking nuts. They're nuts, okay? They are nuts. These are great dogs. I love mine to death. It's tougher than I'll ever be.
Starting point is 01:28:01 It's like, you know, you ever see my bodyguard? That's what my dog is. I'm like the little nerd riding on the handlebars trying to find that piece for the carburetor. You have a pit bull? Yes, I do. How is he around other dogs? Likes little dogs, gets competitive with big dogs. So we don't take it to the dog park. Problem solved. Just make sure that you have like a sturdy leash and you never have them around dogs, right? Yeah. They're great to have around the yard, man. They're so smart. That's like me saying, listen,
Starting point is 01:28:25 make sure you don't stick your thumbs in here when you make a fist. That's what you're saying to me right now, okay? No, I'm not even suggesting it. I'm just asking how you do it. Like, do you have a philosophy behind it? Because some people don't have that philosophy. They just say, I see problems coming, and I just cross them across the street. I just, you know, everybody has their own.
Starting point is 01:28:42 That would be the martial arts version of just avoiding the fight. Yeah, absolutely. There's that. Hoping that collar holds up. Yeah, you have to have the right kind of collar. You have to know what to do with the collar. If you know what to do and how to hold the leash, that thing's going to go the same way. You get somebody in a hold and they want to stand up and sit down and they have no fucking control because they're like, ah.
Starting point is 01:28:59 It's the same thing with the next pivot point. You have to try to get them to get them to the same thing with like you know the next like pivot point have right choker collar man you're the ones with the points where it doesn't no no no no no those are fine they don't hurt them yeah they don't hurt i don't do that listen you're gonna get me in trouble here i have to go to a fucking tree huggers right now. All right, man. We'll save some pit bulls.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Anytime you want to come back and do it again. When can people see you do stand-up? I am going to be at the Improv in San Jose. This weekend? This weekend. Thursday, Friday, Saturday. My whole new hour is coming together. And that is it.
Starting point is 01:29:45 The San Jose Improv is fucking awesome. That's a really old theater. That's a cool, old, historic place. So thanks for coming by. Follow Bill Burr on Twitter. We're the ones that talked him into getting a Twitter page, and now you've got like 100,000 people on that shit, right? I was the first one to make you one.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Yeah. I'm getting up there. Brian was responsible for you. Thank you. For your digital revolution. It's Bill Burr, B-I-L-L-B-U- getting up there. Yeah. Brian was responsible for you. Thank you. For your digital revolution. It's Bill Burr, B-I-L-L-B-U-R-R. Thanks, buddy. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Thanks for having me, guys. All right. We'll see you. Thanks to – should we just end this, Brian? Do you have anything you want to say? No. No? Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Okay. Friday night, Ice House, 10.30 p.m. show. We got, so far, a mad lineup of Brendan Walsh. Who else is it? Brendan Walsh. Who else is it? Brendan Walsh. Bert Kreischer, maybe. Maybe Bert Kreischer.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Maybe Bert Kreischer. Eliza, Doug Benson. Doug Benson. Aiko Tanaka and a couple other people. That shit's devastating people. 10.30 show and me. Oh, yeah. I'm on that show, too.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Nick Yusuf. Oh, Nick Yusuf, too. Springsteen album. What are we coming up with? Kicking and throwing kicks in the night. I should, what's it called? That should be my special, that. Throwing kicks in the night.
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