The Joe Rogan Experience - #2307 - Tim Dillon

Episode Date: April 19, 2025

Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. Look for his new comedy special, "Tim Dillon: I'm Your Mother," now streaming on Netflix. www.netflix.com/title/81992010 www.timdilloncomedy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hey, Tim Dillon. How are you? I'm much better now that the ladies are back from space. Thank you for having me. What were they up there, 10 minutes? Well it was very profound.

I don't know if you've seen Katy Perry talk about it, but she's basically a guru now. Yeah, what were her findings? That's my question. Well, what did you learn? super important Shows you how quick the flight was the dad Daisy that's like snipped from its life source was still still alive Or still vibrant. Yeah, and it's so it's so good. Yeah, Daisy Wow, look at her nails Yeah, and it's so it's so good. Yeah, Daisy Wow, look at her nails So pretty now so they go up there and they float for like 10 minutes. Mmm, at least and then they come down Let's not minimize this. No, it's a big deal. Let's Celebrate yeah male astronauts and they were united because a lot of men astronauts. Yeah, they have to go to school, right?

They have to learn how to be a pilot first, then they have to join the Air Force or the Navy, and then they get appointed by NASA, and then they go to space. And there has been, that's the other thing, there has been female astronauts. Let's not minimize this. Let's not minimize this. I think there was a bitch stuck on a space station for a few months. That's terribly more impressive.

Let's not, let's not minimize this. No, the problem with that story is that she was rescued by a very awful person who wants to expose fraud and waste. Yeah, did Musk rescue her? Yes. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I didn't know. Where's that in the news? Oh, I didn't know those fucking people were stuck the Boeing jet the skyline whatever the fuck. Yeah, the Boeing spaceship wasn't working They could fix it

Interesting. I didn't even know that yeah, and by the way, yeah, Lon could have rescued them during the Biden administration They didn't want to because of his open support for Trump So they let those people up there. Yes He's talked about it on my podcast. They love those people up there. Yes. He's talked about it on my podcast. They left those people up there and they're just chilling. No, they're dying. Right. It's like slow radiation poisoning. It's like getting 10 x-rays a day and they're just slowly getting sapped of your life force out there and no gravity. Your bones are weakening. Do you see that lady's face when she came back? She didn't look great, bro

Her something had happened like her chin had grown. She looked like it was extended her hair had all turned gray She looked like she was sick. She was that yeah, you're dying up there man. That's crazy I had a commander Chris Hatfield on and he was at one point in time the longest Person that had been in space from wasn't he it's like he was there for like six months and he was saying it was unbelievable like how difficult it was to recover once you get back to earth he couldn't walk it was just like a total vertigo like his whole body was like so not used to gravity all of his bones were weak muscles were weak but

these bitches seem fine these ladies well. Well, for now, it looks like a minimize the sacrifice. They know it's huge for the world. In fact, yeah, the world, they're profoundly different. They're profoundly different to show people. What's inspiring. That's what I'm saying. It's inspiring. If, uh, if, um, if a guy who's worth what a trillion dollars, several billion, a hundred billion just a man Yeah, the conspiracies if they didn't make it. Yeah. Well Pete there's already people saying that they faked it, which I think is silly Well, I love those people but it's great. Those are people that think space is fake. That's right

Yeah, but they're they're ready people going well, they faked it and I'm like, I hope they fake something better than that I hope they fake something better than that. I hope if they're faking stuff and they probably are faking some stuff, God, I hope they're faking stuff that's better than that. I think this is the confusion. I think the confusion is that they essentially got to the threshold of space. They did not get like way out there

where reentry is very traumatic and it has like if you see like those heat shields that they put all over those things and if they break off on the reentry everybody dies right that's cuz you're way out there and the amount of heat that gets generated as you're reentering the atmosphere I think they're essentially like on the border of the atmosphere let's see how high did they go up there? So the space shuttle they went a little higher than that rocket man documentary that guy who shot himself up in a rocket They went like a few feet higher than that guy Yeah, RIP that guy drove by his grave on the way to Vegas when LA burned down. Are they even like

Technically actually in space. I think that's where the like it floats. That's the line. I might go there I might do that to it and go to space base, but I might do the 80 80 miles do that so 350 miles is the highest anyone has ever gone other than the Apollo astronauts Okay, 60s you my miles ain't shit, dude. I drive that in an hour. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and it's, by the way, I agree with you. It's not that far.

That's not even here to San Antonio. 62 miles ain't shit, but it is kind of technically space. So they get up there and they look at the earth? Yeah, that's why, like, everybody's calling bullshit on the outside of the capsule right that it wasn't like completely on fire Right destroyed just cuz they didn't go that they didn't go that high That's all it is right, but they did go to space tech went to space and they lost gravity The funniest thing is they come back and you need a parachute to land right like at all the technology Elon has Elon is catching rockets

What could we got arms clamp? What could go wrong in something like that? Oh, it could explode on the way up. Oh Yeah, the way up is not ensured that those things are definitely gonna hold it together. So that's the biggest risk Yeah, you have these cannons filled with rocket fuel that are burning at like twice the what is the temperature of rocket fuel when it's hot? Is it like? Is it it's like close to the surface of the Sun or some crazy shit? Like what is the what's the actual temperature so everything has to be contained while you have? insane amounts of fuel burning every second in huge plumes of flame Enormous thrust right to escape Earth's atmosphere right you're just hoping all those O rings and all these fucking all the shit that blew up With the challenge or could have blown up 100% yeah, I mean

Musk has openly said some of these are gonna blow up when he's testing them when he right when they would blow up you like oh you won Failed again like no we want it to fail because we want to find out what is the threshold like what? There's only one way to find out all of them were poor that you think they were like prepared to die No, Katie Perry was prepared. Yeah, she's in her eyes. Something's like a soldier something's off with her. No, it's good She has a Mohammed Ada Well, I think the problem is that the hatch is not a real hatch like a spaceship Because it's not really going to space. There's no captain. There's no pilot, right? There's nobody going at the mundo all the above so it's most hatches in that regard

They open outwardly so that the pressure of space travel like when you're shooting that fucking rocket up insane amounts of gravity Doesn't make the door hinges fail and it collapses in on itself and everybody dies, right? Right, so the they have to open outward, right? Right. So the pressure would keep them shut So generally like there's like a seal and it's really kind of crazy. Like I have a friend of mine, very wealthy businessman who brings me over his house the other day is, is I want to show you something. And he shows me this diagram. He said this is from the 1950s. And this is the blueprint for the recreation UFO that they made when they tried to back engineer

the one that they found at Roswell. And this was a diagram. Yeah. Crazy. And it had a crank handle like a submarine door. You know? And they were trying to replicate a craft that had landed, crashed.

Yeah. They, well, he thinks they did Wow He doesn't think it's a try. He said this is the blueprint because it had the actual it by the way the Exact generator in the center of it that Bob Lazar described Yeah in 1989 when he worked at area s4 what layer of the government do you think is working on projects like that? Like is it all the DARPA people? I think it's people that are completely disconnected from congressmen, senators, presidents. Right. Right. It's all deep state. Because it's all people that-

They have to be like, they probably belong to an agency without a name. Well, there's probably a bunch of those. And when it comes to this kind of stuff, like we already know now because of Doge that there was money that was going with no receipts, billions and billions of dollars that was just flying out with no receipts. They have no idea where it went. And Elon openly said if this was, he goes, if this was a public company, it would be delisted and the people who ran it would go to prison. But because it's the government government you're like, oh

You have no receive. Do you think That could be going to it. You think they'll bring charges against anyone for fraud? That's the worry about disclosure because that's what I think that's what's holding it. I think people needs concrete Stuff. Yeah, you want some concrete? Let's hear Katy Perry talk about needs concrete stuff. Yeah, you want some concrete? Let's hear Katy Perry talk about space.

I'm gonna send you one. I sent you a few this morning. I said let's discuss. I saw her, I saw her, I chatted about it on my show. I saw her say something about we weren't taking space, we're making space. That's the one I want to send you. Which I thought was an interesting scientific. That's not this one? No an interesting scientific no no no I got another one I got some better ones what

is funny is immediately pretty good it's funny to do something like this and then everyone hates you like everyone hates they shouldn't hate her oh no that's not a chain meal so to you I have so many of them. I don't think that one has the making space try this one It's so fun with people why is it so fun when people get pretentious cuz you're I guess cuz you're terrified that you would Ever do it. Well, yeah, I also think it's fun to see somebody who has no self-awareness. Yeah, they're always the most fun. I Will never be the same. I mean when you get up there and you see the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen and it's not just your window. It's like everybody's window and there's no boundaries.

There's no border. There's just earth and it just fills the screen. I think it says astronaut. And you get up there and you see the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen Is it what you expected? No, no Yeah, I don't think you can describe it Cuz you know what I was saying. It was like quiet but then

also really alive and you look at it and you're like We're all in this together To going up you said that you needed to go to space to heal I know you're only a few minutes removed from this incredible experience. Do you feel healed? Now you are officially an astronaut, thank you so much I feel super connected to love. Goodness. I will never be the same.

I mean when you get up there. No, that's it. That's it. There's another one. There's another one. She said making space. But no, she's so funny. How great is it that they just get called astronauts now?

It's funny to hear the richest guy in the world's wife go. We're all in it together. Oh Boy, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if people feel that Yeah, we're definitely not How in it together are we yeah, it feels like you hand selected a couple of friends to go do this Yeah, yeah, I mean she should have to it should have been a lottery system like Willy Wonka We're just seven random people should have been able to go in this I would do it just that means my that would be good just seven random people just net pull out some guy Who's not supposed to be here? Just a cashier at HB someone from MS 13

Get him in so Someone from Trendy Agua and Lauren Sanchez and Gail King and you know. Oh you see they released the footage, dashcam footage or police footage of the guy who they're saying was just a father. The Maryland father. As he got pulled over with eight undocumented people. Yes truck. They're all supposedly staying at his house Yeah, I didn't see that. Yeah The wife had a restraining order against him a protection. I saw that there was a restraining order I saw that day he was hanging out with two guys. It were In in MS 13. Yeah, they released the yeah, he's he's definitely sketchy

Yeah, they released the yeah, he's he's definitely sketching They have made a few mistakes. Maryland father. No. The guy that scares me is the hairdresser. The gay hairstylist? Yeah, I want to know what's going on with that. Or there's a guy with a tattoo and his tattoo. That's him. Oh, the hairdresser has a mom and his dad. Oh, no, there was a guy with an autism awareness tattoo and they thought it was like an MS-13 tattoo But it it doesn't look like an MS 13 tattoo. It's a literal The problem is everybody's a liar. You don't know liberals are liars and the Republicans are lying. Everyone's lying They're all lie

And if they did ship some ironically the only people I trust our MS 13 and because they'll tell you and podcasters in MS 13 That's all I trust I would love if you just had MS 13 on just, just three guys with tattoos, because by the way, there would be no outrage. That's what's hilarious. If you had three MS-13 gang members, not one person would go, why did he have them on? Why did he platform them? Nobody would.

But if I have Ian Carroll on? If you have anyone else on, it'll be a horrible thing. But if it was three guys, MS-13-to-toe tattoos who admitted to killing multiple people and you said Now now tell me about what it's like to grow up and San Pedro Sula or whatever and it would be okay Well, that was one that's good is because I think it's important to learn about other cultures of well 1000% and they should have their chance to talk and what's not cool is talking about Maybe Israel did something wrong. You should really not do that. I Think it's criminal of you to even discuss. I know anything. Well, it's not right

Apparently I've been co-opted by what's called the woke, right? The woke, right? That's where there's a woke right now. Yes, and they're fascinating. There's their co-opting I still haven't accepted the fact that I've left the left I did a CNN interview for an hour because I'm promoting my special and then did you really yeah And they asked you talk to this girl L Reeves. She cool. She was cool She does all they you know when you see the vice documentaries where she talks to the Nazis in the incels Oh Jesus, she does that chick and they sent her in. Oh that's a good move for them. I was like this is hilarious. So I'm sitting there and she sits down she's like are there any left-wing comedians and I named 10 of them that are all in arenas and she goes oh

because their whole thing now is that podcasters are the most powerful people in the world and she goes do you think your friends are the new establishment? I said well there's 22 intelligence agencies in entire legacy media. There's lots of ivy league schools, there, well, there's 22 intelligence agencies in entire legacy media. There's lots of Ivy League schools. There's this, there's that. Do I think Theo Vonn's the new establishment? No. I don't think so. I think you ran a really unpopular candidate.

I don't think Americans like child sex changes. And I don't think they want an open border. And I think if you'd co-opted some of those issues, you might have won. They said to me at CNN, they're like, co-opted some of those issues, you might have won. They said to me at CNN, they're like, we're editing the interview. I said, put the hour out. I sat there for an hour. And we had a nice conversation. But you know, we talked for one hour. And I was like, put it out. I'm like, I understand if you can't put it out. And then she goes like this, she goes, I can't believe you'd show up. People have said that they can't come on here

because Joe Rogan would get mad at them. I said, that's absolutely ridiculous. Why would I care? I said, he doesn't care. He would never care. I said, it's the silliest thing ever. They think we're at war. I just said, put out the thing.

Put out the hour online. If you can only put out a few minutes on network, fine. But it's wrong to have someone come in and talk for an hour right and then not three minutes and then use five minutes Yeah, so fucked up. How much did they use? We don't know yet. They haven't put it out and do you did they say we can't put the whole hour out I texted this journalist and she texted me because I'm pushing for like a long form release I go yeah, man, just put out the interview also do you guys want ratings or no yeah we had a conversation about all these things you

guys talk about yeah you guys have a website then what are we doing don't you have a YouTube page doesn't it out YouTube page and she's like I go she goes she goes what do you think that your rogans are why is this so popular I go well one of the reasons is he doesn't edit people they don't they're not edited they come on they say what they want to say and there's no editing So what's weird about those? Institutions is they will sit you down for an hour And then I guess cherry pick what they think their audience wants to see well They just want what they think is gonna grab the most ratings and is not gonna make them look stupid

So if you're mocking them openly, then explain it. Well she didn't know when she said it there at last. She goes, comedy's right wing. And I go, she goes, name left of center comedians. I named literally eight of them and I said they all are in arenas. I go, what are you talking about? It's so dumb.

What are you talking about? It's so dumb. I was like, that's, you're saying that comedy's left, what? By the way, I used to be left of center according to the metrics of 2015. I said there's a lot of Joe's positions, if you look at them, that are left of center according to the metrics of 2015 I said there's a lot of Joe's positions if you look at them that are that are that are left of center positions And there's a lot of my positions or anyone's positions. I said there's nobody that you can easily put in a box Yeah, and but they want you to be in that box. Oh, they're silly and they also want me to be an enemy of CNN

I don't give a fuck if you don't care who cares by the way I hope CNN corrects course and does right news right and just concentrates on the news and all yeah fucking I don't want editorial Comments from morons right so when you're force-feeding me Don Lemons opinion on how the world should be right and how You know everyone should be shamed if they don't get vaccinated like right you're you're force-feeding me morons like no man Everyone should be shamed if they don't get vaccinated like right you're you're force-feeding me morons like no man Of course your ratings plummeted yeah, of course and you guys lied about so many fucking things I never corrected yourself is there an arm of

the Democratic National Committee and they're an arm of that party I mean they're whether they are forced to be or whether they choose to be because they identify with being Democrat and they want To skew things completely towards the left. I don't know. I don't know what the answer to that is all of the old Bush era Neoconservative people who pushed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Patriot Act and Guantanamo Bay and all of this stuff all find homes usually on MSNBC or CNN Advocating for war yes Ron. Yes always escalation in Ukraine They always so it's kind of an establishment doesn't seem to met they don't really care about party right and you know

They're doing better now though. I mean this one. Yeah, Scott Jennings on he's yeah. Yeah, he's great Yeah, that's the kind of conversations you need completely ridiculous people are out of your fucking minds versus Scott Jennings like those are great You need to have some fun. Yeah, it makes you these Ridiculous woke anchors look retarded. Yeah, and they should there are in the world There are good principled arguments that against right-wing things Yes, you just can't have people who are completely out of it make them exactly exactly after the election One of my favorite ones was it CNBC or CNN? I forget what a woman this guy was talking about this whole right-wing podcast

ecosystem that's incredibly well funded and organized and Right. What are you talking about? Well, you could literally go to the roots of how it all started You could see every one of us doing our first podcast. Yeah fucking there's no there's no funding What are we talking about what are we saying even the idea that we're all organized together or that like I would want to prevent People from going on CNN. Well it's just silly. I could not care less. Because that's the way they operate. You always usually like a lot of times you end up accusing people of something you're doing. Right. So you because you are familiar with that so they're like well

we have a top-down corporate oligarchy telling us what to do is that the way it works with you? Like no, Jorvogon doesn't email people at the beginning of the week and go hey guys this is where you can't guys, this is the most insane thing ever. But not only that, like, I want them to do well. I really don't care. They obviously don't want me to do well. Right. But I don't care. I hope they're, look, if they turned it around

and CNN became great, I'd watch it all the time. It's just, it used to be great. It used to have parts unknown on it. The new thing they're doing, this is a very interesting thing that's happening. If somebody says something that they don't like and they can't immediately dismiss it, they go, but the fans of that thing are bad people. This is an interesting attack point.

They go, but somebody with a massive audience, if they find a sliver of that audience to be objectionable in any way they then go well the fans of that type of questioning are anti-semitic or racist right or something well and they don't deal with the actual facts or the actual line of argumentation yeah it's just a sneaky debate tactic right when you're dealing with I have 19 million YouTube subscribers How can you nail that down to the fans right you don't know you're just talking out of your ass This is this is a non-argument. It's a stupid point and by the way when you're talking about actual comments We've already established that

I don't know what the number is But there's a huge number of people that are commenting that aren't even people Right bots, right state sponsored bots. Yeah, be from Ukraine. They could be from America They could be from Russia. They could be from Israel and I want more of them Yeah So if they're a state sponsor bots it can that can jack my ratings out it can if they want to come over to me You have anything nice to say about Israel? Any Ukraine, I'm waiting for the money.

I texted Barry Weiss, I go, here's the way this game works. I get a little bit of money first. Not, not I go on and defend whatever the hell you people want to do. Where's, I'm not going to get my beak wet. If you and I go to Israel, will you slap on the Yamaka? Absolutely, absolutely.

Because of the wall? Absolutely, absolutely. Will you kiss the wall? Absolutely, absolutely. Oh, yeah, sure. I mean, and my film is greenlit when? Do you have to kiss the wall? No, I don't know anything. The wall is the way... Is that the Wailing Wall?

I don't know, but Mike Huckabee is over there like a good Christian. Oh, well, he loves it over there. He loves it over there. Because the fundamentalist Christians go hard with the Israel thing. They're like, let's go. They think Jesus is coming back to that spot. What's very interesting is if Israel said to a fundamentalist Christian, if Netanyahu called Mike Huckabee and said, we're going to have to nuke Iran, he'd go, let's do it.

That's what Jesus wants. Let's do it. That's what Jesus would want, a nuclear war. So that's where we've gotten. We've gotten to the point where we have fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Israel and fundamentalist Muslims on the other side and everybody's playing this weird game. And yeah, there he is. Boy, he looks old. Jesus. This is just hilarious. If this is the freeze frame from the episode that we released. They stop dyeing their hair at some point in time and just say, oh, fuck it.

You know, like Stallone did. The best hat they have is the Shrymal. They wear it in Brooklyn. It's that big furry Russian hat. Oh, I love that hat. That hat looks sick. That is a sick hat. It looks like something out of Game of Thrones.

Yeah, that's a hat. Like, I don't give a fuck what you think. I'm a member of the tribe, bitch. I got strings hanging from my belt. I got a... And I'm rocking up on I got a hat a bear dick hat Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty sick hat I think people can't get past the fact that like yeah That hat that has the shit. What's that made out of?

What let's answer the question why do Orthodox Jewish men where's Ari when you need them? That's a great party never had to wear one of those hats though No, but he looked good. Yeah, I got a ton of hats from different UFC fighters. Yeah from like Dagestan and from Kazakhstan I got a cool Kazakhstan hat from Shavkat Rama. That is pretty though. It's an objective There was an article that just said it before that The the fur one if you go back up in the upper left corner upper left corner. Yeah Why didn't they wear it, Jamie? There was an article that just said it before that. The fur one.

If you go back, up in the upper left corner, upper left corner, yeah. Jew in the City is the name of the website. God, I hope a Jewish person is running that website. Otherwise, they're going to get assassinated. The fur hat is known by a Yiddish name. How do you say that? Shreymel?

Shreymel. The Shreimel? Shreimel. Shreimel. Yeah. The Shreimel was adopted by Eastern European Jewish communities in the 18th century and coincided with the rise of acidic Judaism. Technically a Shreimel is one particular style of hat. There are others. One that might be familiar on sight is the Spodek, oh you fucking pop-up ad cocksucker, into your email, which is taller and more cylindrical than a Shreimel. A Spodek is a style generally favored by Hasidic sects of Polish descent. To the casual observer, however, they're all stromel. Stromel's made from a large piece of velvet surrounded by fur.

Fur usually comes from the tips of the tails of sable, martens, or fox. Nice. Synthetic stromels do exist. They're more common in Israel than elsewhere. Interesting. Stromel can cost thousands of dollars, so it's not uncommon for a Hasidic man to own Strimals do exist. They're more common in Israel than elsewhere interesting Strimal can cost thousands of dollars. So it's not uncommon for us as acidic man to own a second cheaper strimal So it is main strimal and not be battered by the elements Interesting. Yeah interesting

It's cool that let everybody know you're part of the trot. It's a fun hat Maybe can eat comedians mean like a thing that we were a hat. Yeah, like a thing. That's very good We don't give a fuck. Yeah, I like that Kanye West black clan suit. That's dope. How about his giant swastika in diamonds? Have you seen that what's funny is a jeweler made that? Oh, yeah, and a Jewish jeweler Yeah, one fat Israeli Jewish guy give me that significant markup. Yeah. Yeah, of course I would it's only fair. Yeah, yeah, of course. I'm going to give you a swastika tax. I would, it's only fair. Yeah, you need a tax. I think it's only fair.

If you want a Jewish man to make a swastika, you got to pay extra. People got to separate, you know, and I think this is not, I think people got to separate governments from people, intelligence agencies from people. I think that's the whole thing. I think people are losing the ability to do that

in this case, right? Because when you criticize Israel you criticize Something that may or may not have been done by a government or as intelligence agency. You're not criticizing people Right criticizing a group of people making decisions I don't think America always does things that are in the best interest of the American people, right? Well, this is the problem with when everybody sort of picks sides during the COVID thing, whether or not we should trust the vaccine companies, because like, you did it because you're on the left and the people on the right were the ones who didn't want to take it. So instead of

just looking at it objectively, the people on the left are like everybody who doesn't degrees of a science denier. And it got like really kooky because it got ideological. As soon as it's ideological you can fucking justify anything. This is how how Jewish Americans are justifying, well Hamas uses people as human shields, like they'll say things like that, like it's a way you can justify mass murder. It's a way you can justify anything, anything. As long as the tribe on your side, whatever your clan is, you can justify things. And so people stop thinking. They stop thinking and they just think completely

along ideological lines. It's frustrating as fuck. It is. It is. And passionately. Very passionately. Oh, they're right. You're wrong.

No one is ever questioning anything. No. Why would they question science? No one goes, they're right. You're no one is ever questioning anything No one ever questions. No, no one goes. Wait a minute. I think it's healthy to every now and then go maybe I'm wrong Yeah, there was just something that got released today that showed they just released today that showed that COVID-19 definitively came from that lab thousand percent one hundred percent proof It came from that lab. I read it a little bit of it on the way here Yeah, it's yeah nuts. It's nuts man. It's nuts these fucking people They just got roped in to this and it was a man completely man-made 100% disease

100% and they knew that from the moment it leaked the moment it happened They just lied and Fauci is just out there walking around That's an interesting. It's an it's an interesting case when someone like that in that position Repeatedly lied to people about the origins of that. Yeah And is allowed to just be and faces zero consequences Um and is allowed to just be and faces zero consequences You know, they were trying to put Trump in jail because he inflated the price of a condo. Yeah Would you see what they got an appraisal that was higher and then they well, they're there lies horses

But you see that Leticia James is now trouble for the exact same shit. Really? You didn't see that that makes sense They're investigating her because she allegedly, according to Megyn Kelly, who I trust implicitly, allegedly went and got mortgages with her father listing them as husband and wife on buildings multiple times and then also lied about the amount of bedrooms that were in a place because if it's four bedrooms, you get one tax rate.

If it's five, it's more. Right. So she lied. It was a five and she said it was a four. Right. Well, this is what they all do. So I think really the funny thing about all the cases that they brought against Trump, a lot of those cases were rooted in just politicized version of something that's pretty standard that a lot of people have

done. Yeah, they always overvalue their properties. Always overvalue properties and people get away with it and it's not, you know. It's not a crime, but here's the thing about the Trump thing is that all the people had been paid. So not only was it profitable for the banks, he paid everything on time. Yeah. The loan, there was no criminal.

Like there's no crime, no one got victimized. Nothing happened. They profited. And then this crazy lady with a terrible past thought that she was going to be able to pull this off because she was on the team that she thought was going to win. Like talk about putting all your eggs in one basket. Like they've got a bunch of morons it feels like in on these things it feels like you have there's some we're in some kind of Cold War between two factions in American politics that are using courts

and lawyers to go at each other you know it's not a hot war people aren't fighting in the streets but it does seem to be, these parties seem to no longer view each other as different sides of the same coin. There seems to be, especially when it comes to Trump, it seems to be like they cannot, you know, see him as anything other than an existential threat that has to be vanquished at any cost. Right, and the problem with that is when you deny good things and only highlight bad things

and everybody knows it, well now you're playing a game and your game is I never tell the truth, I tell you parts of the truth that I like. Yeah, and you gotta win that game. If you're playing that game you gotta win. If you do all these things they have to work. And if Trump gets in office, even after he did all these things, well to work and if Trump gets an office then you have these things It's a problem. You have you're fucked you then it's a problem, you know, it's like with JFK. They got him Yeah, you know obviously not good

But they got him and then that slammed the door shut and then all their people came in and kept a cover-up going on I wish I really understood all this stuff that we talked about Yeah, because there's an argument that we haven't had a real president since JFK got shot. That's probably a good argument. And there's maybe arguments that we actually didn't have real presidents prior to JFK. Right. So what do you think is happening now then? Do you think that?

I think you have these guys, right? These guys that go into the CIA, they learn all about these underground groups. They have all of these different relationships all over the world, right? Weapons, drug running, weapons, all of these different terrorist groups, crime syndicates, right? Their job is to know information about every government, all of the, you know, separatist groups that could potentially take over and become the next government.

They have all of these connections. And then they either leave the CIA, they retire, or supposedly it never occurs to any of them to make a buck. That's the real question, right? It never occurs to any of them to make a buck. That's the real question, right? It never occurs to any of these people that there might be a great way to make a buck working with some of these people outside of Congress, the White House, all of that.

That's, as it's been explained to me by pretty smart people, that's what you have. You have a rogue element of people in those agencies that have massive amounts of money, and they're very well connected, and they're running weapons, and the president has no idea what's going on, and Congress has no idea what's going on.

They're not briefing a teacher from Georgia who got elected because he promised he was going to build a fucking shopping mall in a suburb of Atlanta about what they're doing in Syria. Right. They're not briefing these people. Exactly. There's nothing democratic about what's happening. And so then you think to yourself, you're like, well, how do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut? How do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut? How do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut?

Cha-ching. Then we go, not only money, but that's when we bring in Ghislaine Maxwell. That's when we bring in Jeffrey Ebsi, right? That's when we bring in people who go, let's all have fun. We've got a great weekend getaway planned. And then we can all be on camera doing something that would get us thrown in jail, have people rightly disgusted and want to kill us and the worst things ever are now on camera somewhere, those tapes are somewhere, now everybody is completely incapable of ever coming out and saying what's going on. Yeah, and you know, and then those people are Running a parallel government. It's a parallel command structure and That's a huge problem and it was essentially completely in control for four years

Probably for more than four but the last yeah for sure thousand percent That's the best example we've ever had of that thousand percent That guy's never really running things thousand. There's no way they let him and It's probably still in control to a certain degree now because it's very hard To when you have something like that happening. it is very difficult to completely shut it down. Well, it's very hard. Well, here's a perfect example that we know it's definitely running things, because Trump is still trying to figure out why he got shot.

He was like, I want more information. Yeah. Like there's no information coming to him about... There's not going to be information. There's not going to be information. That's a crazy story. There's not going to be information. There's not going to be information. That's a crazy story. Also, you should try to connect.

Like, if it's not America that did it, if it's not us, it's not intelligence agencies that did it, then it means a foreign government that hijacked this kid's brain and got him to climb on top of that roof. Like, somebody tried to get someone to assassinate a guy who was running for president, and no one seems to be interested in finding who that person or that group who? Influences kid is so many of these ex-intelligence chiefs pop up all over the world. They pop up in Dubai They pop up on MSNBC They love traveling they're having meetings with people. They're all over the place people and they're just they love people they love cultures They love meeting different cultures They love people they love cultures. They love meeting different cultures Yeah, the food's great and supposedly I heard from someone who's again smart and and I consider trustworthy that there's actually large

Sectors of the global economy that are moved More in this direction than you'd think like there there are tentacles Into very large investment banks and private equity companies that a lot of these guys have let's put it that way Obviously it does it's not a shocking thing some private equity companies that a lot of these guys have. Let's put it that way. Obviously, it's not a shocking thing. Why would the government let a private equity company operate with impunity? Right. So you have to leave their controlling regulations and let's work together. Right. There doesn't seem to be a good answer to any of this. That becomes the real issue. You ever get invited to these like fucking Illuminati conferences or any of this, that becomes the real issue. You ever get invited to these like

fucking Illuminati conferences or any of these crazy things? No, they wanted me to do stand-up at one conference and it wasn't like an Illuminati kind of thing, it was like a, I don't know, it was like some type of like low-grade Illuminati. Yeah, that's how they start. Like kind of faux Illuminati. It's like the minor leagues. Yeah.

And then eventually you go to some weird ranch in the mountains of Wyoming. Well, that sounds nice. Actually does sound nice. Maybe. No, I think that like, it does seem weird that a lot of, once you get to a certain level, people take an interest in you that never were interested.

You know? For sure. For sure. Yeah. People are interested. Welcome to my world. Yeah It is strange that people seem to care about you or what you're saying or People going I think you your read on that is wrong and you're like, why do you care what it is?

I'm a fucking guy with a talk, you know microphone once or twice a week. Yeah, they don't like that. They don't like people having influence that haven't been sanctioned. They don't like that. Yeah, they want all influence to be top down, all influence to be a part of a giant corporation. That's what they want. They don't want influence to be just regular people. Regular people are fringe, they're far this or far that, they're problematic, they spew misinformation and dissent.

There's no one who's more misinformation than CNN. Over the years, how many times you guys just what you guys did over COVID. If you were a podcaster, you'd be shut down. Right. Like if the podcasters were the one telling everybody to get vax, you get it, you won't get you won't spread it. You want this, you want that. There's no side effects. If podcasters are saying that, but the establishment news was saying, hold on, this is an experimental

vaccine, we should not be asking women who are pregnant to take this, we should not be asking kids who are in no danger to take this, we do not know the long-term consequences. If podcasters were saying that, you know, podcasters were on the government side instead of CNN. If CNN was the wise ones that told everybody to be cautious, they would want us prosecuted. They would be going after us for all the side effects that people are experiencing.

You have blood on your hands, you're responsible for strokes and heart attacks and myocarditis and all sorts of autoimmune issues. You also have to think about how much easier it is for let's say an intelligence community to manipulate them than it is to come in here like an intelligence community is not gonna go All they have to do is bring me to the UFOs. No, that's all I ask. You keep telling them that yes That's all you have to do. What do you want me to do?

It's very easy. We're gonna go to war with Kosovo? I don't even know where Kosovo is on a map But if you tell me where the UFOs are, I'll have a guy in here that explains why it's super important. We bomb the fuck. But it is funny, it's like, what they'd have to do is pick somebody,

have them become a comedian, start a podcast, get an audit. Like it is difficult, right? Whereas if you work at a media company, it's very easy to just, some new guys there. Who's this? Right, right, right. Oh, you know what I mean?

Yeah, that's Mike. Somebody just shows up. Hey, it's this? Right? Oh, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's my buddy just shows up Hey, Suzanne Suzanne run everything by Suzanne. Hey, how does this guy Bob Woodward? Why does he get the most down and he just this is his first case lucky guy gets Watergate lucky guy. Wait a minute What did he do for Navy Intelligence? Right? What lucky guy? That water gate thing's so funny because- But I've been here for 30 years, Mike. Yeah, I haven't gotten anything.

Shut the fuck up. Fuck you. Bob's taking this case. Bob's taking down Nixon, who keeps asking questions about what happened to Kennedy. Did you see when Bill Murray was here? I did, yeah. Did you see the thing that he said about Wired, the book?

Yeah. Wait, which one? Wired is the book on John Belushi. He said, I read the first five pages, and I was like, oh my God. They set up Nixon. Yeah, wait, which one? Wired is the book on John Belushi. He said, I read the first five pages and I was like, oh my God, they set up Nixon. Oh, that's hilarious. They framed Nixon. That's so funny.

This is what he said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, if this is what they say, this is what the same guy said about John Belushi, which is 100% not true. Do you know John Belushi was a lightweight? Right. He would drink a couple of beers and he'd be fucked up.

Right. He didn't have tolerance. He wasn't this maniacal co- No. It was a lightweight. Right. He would drink a couple of beers and he'd be fucked up. Right. He didn't have tolerance. He wasn't this maniacal, coke-skint fin. No. It was all lies. They don't care at all about getting any accurate information. That time that he died,

it was probably the first time he ever did a speed ball, according to Bill Murray. Wow. Wow. Yeah, and Bill Murray was one of his best friends. Bill Murray knew. Bill Murray was like, I've known this guy most of my life.

Right. And then he goes, they framed Nixon. Right. And then I told him the whole story that Tucker Carlson had told me. Yeah. I was like I've known this guy most of my life and then there he goes they framed Nixon, right? Yeah, I told him the whole story that Tucker Carson had told me. Yeah, which I was like what? That it was all FBI agents. Yeah, the whole thing was a complete sting. It was a it was a sloppy burglary Where they wanted to get caught they traced it back to Nixon because Nixon was doing things. They hated well This is the thing they got Nixon on you know if you know but what they said to Nixon is they told if Nixon was not guilty of the crime, but they told Nixon about the crime, and then he helped them cover it up That's how they got him right, but what is he gonna do of course he thinks this is on the legit

You come to him with the crime like oh, Jesus fucking tell anybody him Jesus Christ Christ. Yeah, did you do you bugged cap city? Yeah Fuck they had to get rid of they had to get you had to get rid of him This is what we're gonna do we're gonna we're gonna throw our phones in the river. Yeah Here's what happens now How do we get out of this? Yeah, where'd you put the bugs can we break it and take the bugs back? That's so funny Yeah, they'd be so flattered if you buy if we buy caps at it. I heard that's awesome Somebody told me last night that they hate us. I'm like, how do you hate me? I love you I used to love the old cap city if you got head like cap city

You got headliners and you need them promote it. I'll promote it on Twitter Yeah, and same thing with moon tower. Yeah, they're mad at me too because I wouldn't have them at the club I'm happy to help you. Yeah, we're happy to help you. I just don't want you to book my club That's all it is. My club is sold out every night Yeah, and it's guys like you and Shane and Ari and all these I don't want anybody else booking it It doesn't mean that I don't support your cause. Of course. I just don't want you coming into my establishment. That's all it is I don't I want everybody to do well. There's five comedy clubs on my street.

What you've done I think ultimately is good for the town. You bring people into the town. The problem is when people used to be in control of comedy in the town and then all of a sudden they're not. And they used to be like the person that people would go to and now they're insignificant. Right. Yeah, I think a lot of people struggle with that. They used to be like the person that people would go to and now they're insignificant, right? Yeah, I think a lot of people struggle with that

The idea of that that they're they're they're losing control I think they hate that seems to be the most the angriest I've seen people online Since the election that have railed against podcasts and they've railed against they seem to Be angry that they no longer have a monopoly on what people can hear. Exactly. And they still continue to lie and misrepresent people that do podcasts or people that are on a, have a different opinion say, and that's where it gets really stupid. You know, like they keep saying that, you you know when I had that Darrell Cooper a guy on that I'm Bringing on a Nazi apologists and a Holocaust denier like that is neither of those things are true. Yeah, it's not true

And the guy doesn't just talk about that by the way his stuff about Jim Jones is fucking sensational You know, Jim Jones was like a civil rights leader rights leader? Jim Jones had an interracial child. I didn't know any of them. Yeah, Jim Jones was like, he had an adopted black child that he would take to school and everybody would be fucking furious at him in the town. And he was like, he was a legitimate Christian. Like a real, I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christian.

One of the big things in America. Tell me about Kooky on that. Yeah, of course. The meth got him. Yes, Listen, there are a lot of people questioning World War II for not good reasons, of course. It's like people that bring up the age of consent. You go, wait a minute. Hey, what's going on? What are you doing? There are people I think that do launder, not great reasons for questioning World War world war two through whatever however no doubt

there's a very interesting the the teeth really come out the national teeth come out in this country when you question at all the american war machine yes and the pageantry and of war and the pageantry of war and the, you know, iconography of the state and of war and of how important it is and how just it always is and how we're always on the right side of it and we're always doing the right thing. And in World War II, we 100% were, but there are a lot of other times when we've made grave

errors with our military. Yes. And I feel like it's not good enough for you can't just point to World War II, which is, again, we were correct. Yes. But I think there is this idea that if you do, it's not an accident there's a million movies made about World War II. It's not an accident there's a million movies made about World War Two. It's not an accident that there is a lot of pageantry surrounding World War Two.

Also that the World War Two movies have heroes. Of course. Vietnam movies are apocalyptic. That's right. Everything's complicated and it's all chaos. So I think that inspires the idea that a military solution is always correct and that the use of force is always the right way to do it. And that coincidentally makes people lots and lots of money and their children never end up fighting those wars. That seems to be a lot of it. Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't people with bad motivations that are genuinely anti-Semitic or that genuinely have fascist inclinations, there absolutely are.

But I think there needs to be space to criticize the mythologizing of war in general and the justification for endless wars all the time. Yes. Like Iran, I hope Trump does not go into Iran. That seems like a very bad idea. It also seems like a very bad idea for Iran to get nuclear weapons.

That seems bad too. Yes, but I think there's ways to prevent that without a very bad idea. It also seems like a very bad idea for Iran to get nuclear weapons. That seems bad too. Yes, but I think there's ways to prevent that without a regime change war. This is what we have to do. This is what Tulsi Gabbard I think was very attractive about, a lot of what she said during her confirmation hearing. She goes, I understand that there are terrorists out there that are dangerous, but we got to find a way to deal with them without committing troops to stand there in an Islamic country. We've done this.

We saw this movie. It doesn't work out. I think we have to stop thinking that it's going to be better this time if we decapitate the head of a foreign government and we have American soldiers in an Islamic country trying to set up a provisional government. The nightmare of that during Iraq, Paul Bremer, this weird British looking guy that they sent to stand on that rubble with his boots and the mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier.

It brings back, to me, it's like I get flashbacks from it. Do you remember the guy who was the Iraqi public relations guy who was saying that they're winning the war? Was it Ahmed Chalabi? Well, no, that was a guy that fed us all the bullshit to get us in. No, no, no, it was the guy that they people openly mocked. I believe he had glasses and he was the guy that was always saying that Iraq is kicking ass. Oh interesting, no. Yeah, Baghdad something or another they called him. And he was saying that we were doing good? No, no, no that we were getting he's saying that

Iraq is kicking our ass. Yeah Well, do you remember that area? No, I don't remember that dad something or another they call them by the way Does anyone know what's going on in Iraq right now? I couldn't markets if there was a gun to my head. I could not tell you what the state of Iraq I know the Taliban are in Afghanistan, what's going on in Iraq? Listen, listen, listen, you hear that, ready? That's a gay guy threw off a roof. Right, right.

So that's what we spent, that's a 20-year, you know, commitment. What was a very long time. Right. So that's like, I feel like that's the thing that when you ever try to have a nuanced understanding of what we can and can't do. I don't think it's a great idea that Iran gets nuclear weapons. It seems like there are ways to prevent that. We got to make ISIS in charge. Full scale invasion.

But don't we need these, like I think like I always look at these groups like the Houthis and stuff. We need these people. 100%. We need them. And the Houthis and stuff, we need these people. 100%. We need them, and the Houthis are a fun one, because they're like on the ocean, and they're like pirates. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. This is new. They figured out that like land-based stuff's not as interesting. They're like, they're disrupting trade. You know how much of our trade goes through? It's 3%.

Hey. 3%, trade. Don't minimize that. Just like I don't want you minimizing these women and yeah, but we need these Houthis. It feels like we need these groups. We had ISIS, we had then ISIL. Now, you know, we had the people in Syria,

I forget their names, something, but we need these little groups. And this is what we do. We just choose, because all of these groups are not even, they're just people hanging out, and then we give them weapons and get them going. They're just guys in a bar.

A lot of these groups are guys in a bar in Syria. They have a hole in the ground. They're sitting a hole in the ground, and we show up and we start arming them and giving them stuff. And it's like that Bill Hicks joke where it's like pick up the gun, you know from special It's like we are the Houthis an existential threat to the United States that feels crazy The craziest thing just feels insane Trump showing the video of them getting bombed. Oh

Yeah, so why we could kill this is the problem. we could get rid of all of these threats in five minutes Yeah, we don't seem to want good for business. No, we gotta keep it so you can't come to a market every week You'll burn it out. No, the hoofies are good I'm gonna stand up you gotta go once you gotta go once a year once every 18 months and I like the hoothies because it They feel it's like a new but they're not sticking. It's not no one's believing it So now they're back to Hezbollah Hezbollah wears the fatigues. Ooh If you get up Hezbollah, they're scary-looking the Houthis are not that scary

Those just look like a bunch of dudes in like a bizarre like you said like in a flea market If they're on a boat, they're holding up guns. No one cares Hezbollah looks genuinely like okay They're on a boat. They're holding up guns. No one cares Hezbollah looks genuinely like okay Yeah, let's not fuck with these was like Shane's bit. Yeah about the Iraqis. Yeah, I can Fucking the workouts yeah, yeah like that would think they're like an elite army. Oh god. Yeah, you jumping jacks But that's the whole thing it's like it's just weird Global chessboard of like we you know as someone said to me once that there's like a dial you turn it out Be like more war less war yeah more war less war I'm gonna some more conflicts smelling salts are good for allergies have you gotten any of the allergies out here?

No, I don't get it first year of legitimately getting them cedar fever I think you gotta do cocaine. Allergy medicine too? Yeah, that's no fun. Yeah, maybe Zyrtac or something. That's no fun. What is it, the cedar? I don't know what it is.

I think it's, people say cedar fever. But my nose has been running and. Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? Did you hear the story at all? and Mark Hopper actually might have helped the military capture Saddam Hussein. What? So they were on a USO tour in 2003 and they got asked to come in to do like a private show and he sat down and said, I have a plan to catch

Saddam Hussein, the musician recalled telling a Navy Admiral on board the aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf. According to Hoppus, Hussein had been sending video messages to his followers from an unknown location at the time. The musician felt that the military could use drones to their advantage and uncover his location by pulling data from the video messages. Sir, what about having drones fly all over the region and carpeting patterns, broadcasting time codes above the level of human hearing, but at the level that a video recording would catch it," Hopad suggested to the Admiral.

Then, the next time he releases one of his videos, you could listen to it, pull the ultrasonic data, and triangulate the drones you have flying all over. Holy shit! This is the guy from Blink-182? I think his dad was in the military. Someone was in something. He knew, yeah. Okay, this brings me back to that fucking strange times in Laurel Canyon shit yeah four months later Sodom was

located in caption in Iraq so you're welcome everyone what a great book that well not only the Tom O'Neill book but then that this Dave McGowan book weird scenes inside the canyon I lived up there when I was living in LA I lived up there and it I'm telling you that is a creepiest vibe of any area that I've ever been to in My life. It's a weird vibe. I have that fucking military insulation. I'd look out now Jared Leto owns that he lives there now Doesn't he have a whole cult? Okay, he's a good guy. I'm sure he is I'm saying it's bad to be they tried to investigate his cult sure it turns out It's not really it's just a bunch of people having fun. Yeah

Sure, it turns out it's not really it's just a bunch of people having fun. Yeah, it's no requirements There's no no one asks you to fuck them. There's no no It's a it's a voluntary fuck cult. It's not even voluntary fuck cult. Yeah, they get together and dance or something I don't know what they do. I would do that for three years. I didn't get one text. I Had not one I used to drive by and point at it and go look. It's the thing. What do they do? What does Jarrett Littles? It's like a summer camp. They call like echelon. Yeah, it's a summer I used to go watch the band play close up. Oh, what the fuck's the problem with that Tim? How about Tim Dillon fest? I have no problem with that. Basically skank fest just a bunch of people eating shellfish in Long Island being racist Long Island being racist? Yeah, absolutely. I have no issue with that at all. What a fun time though for us. Yeah. Because everything's just taught. I mean, there's so much stuff to talk about.

Everything's nuts. Do you think you know, I was on the All In podcast the other day, and they were talking about these chips, these Nvidia chips and how what's interesting is people are setting up because we have these export controls It don't allow us to send certain chips to China because they're able to like manipulate them right and then become like the world's largest Semiconductor producer but now all these fun fake companies are starting like Bhutan or Cambodia and they're buying the chips or Singapore and then they all get back to China well that one of the guys who worked at whatever the Yeah, permanent preeminent AI system in China was saying one whistleblowers were saying that they have 50,000 of these fucking banned chips

That's so wild whoopsies and so they're there They were talking about like is it better to send them the chips or is it better to if you didn't if you don't send The chips then it spurs their innovation and they make the chips. Well, either way, they're gonna get the chips Yeah, they're getting the chips. They're both innovating and stealing at the same time There be anything done to stop their rise. Nah, not at this point doesn't feel like it, right? There's so much more technologically advanced in so many different areas Yeah like the drones that they have are so superior

to the commercial drones that we have because drones over here, you have to have a pilot's license to drive the really spicy ones. Do you think some of those drones over in New Jersey were theirs? Could be. I think they were ours.

I honestly do, otherwise I think they would've shot them down if they could. I don't know if they could and Maybe they wouldn't because then it would alarm people because then it would like you would show that that is a legitimate threat We're fighting for like satellite supremacy in the sky. Yeah, that's crazy crazy The internet the starlink. I mean essentially Elon's launching star links all over the fuck. Do you worried all about the tech people? Being Democrats up until five minutes ago? Yeah, you should, but I think a lot of those people have shifted sides.

They've shifted sides because they understand that, well, you know, I had Marc Andreessen in here, and Marc Andreessen was explaining, he said the most terrifying meetings we ever had was when we were part of an AI startup, and the government came in and said, we're not gonna let you do this. Not only are we not government came in and said, we're not gonna let you do this. Not only are we not gonna let you do this,

we're not gonna let anybody do this. We're gonna have a small amount of these things, we're gonna completely control. He was like, what the fuck? Like you guys are really openly saying this, that you're gonna inhibit innovation at the highest level of technology. Some shit that you probably don't even understand,

but you wanna have absolute control over it. I think the worry is that people don't trust the government nor should they, you probably don't even understand, but you want to have absolute control over it. I think the worry is that people don't trust the government, nor should they, but I don't know if they trust these tech guys either. You shouldn't. Yeah. You shouldn't. Look what's going on with OpenAI. That's the whole thing.

I think that people are wary of the tech people because they've now, these were the same people that were censoring and kicking people off the internet when the people in the White House were blue. And now that the people in the White House are red, it's swung back the other way. So I think people are a little wary of that. They don't know where that goes. It's just power.

Bernie Sanders is right in that you should be scared of oligarchs and oligarchs shouldn't be running our government. He's right in that regard and when people get into positions of just unchecked power So let's say if someone had control of some tech company, but let's say it's an AI company and that AI company literally creates the Unstoppable AI that helps empower the entire country and there's one guy in control and he's worth $3 trillion now. He decides to lobby and change a bunch of laws and influence politicians.

His company starts donating to certain politicians. You could change the fabric of society with enough money and enough power and enough influence, especially if you could completely control what the narrative is right in terms of like When people Google things when they search things when they talk about things You can completely control what they're allowed to talk about and how that narrative gets countered instantly with facts and Bullshit and yeah, you can just what's being done everywhere, right? So it's being done at the highest levels. And I think people are uncomfortable with just losing, even though a lot of them realize that we didn't have a ton of control.

They feel like I think when you head into the world of tech where people just don't even know where this goes, where does it go? Is it going to transhuman. Where does it go? Does it go to transhumanism? Does it go to like AI replacing everybody? And then at what point, what do you do with those people that AI replaced? Do you give them all cryptocurrency

that's linked to their biological whatever? I've heard all these ideas, right? Like how do you deal with driverless cars where if the entire road is automated, how do you deal with that i think that fills people with an anxiety where they go what is the plan and a lot of these tech cars like well we got to get off the planet and i think people start going like wait you know like that's winestein eric wants what's a lot of people there's a lot of people like i'm saying i don't

know what you're saying there's a lot of people there's no air on mars like let's not go there yeah well for sure for sure do you think you think Trump and Moscow have a falling out eventually? I Don't know it's a good question the media keeps trying to push that they are it feels like they're just big Personalities in that there's an inevitability When you have two guys that are incredibly, you know, perhaps alpha, but Elon is very smart and you see he's always very deferential. Yeah. And he's always very respectful.

Mr. President. It's always that. Of course. Calm sir. That's how I treat him. I always call him sir. It's Donald Trump. Yeah, I get it.

You're fired. I get it. But he's also the president of the United States. I call him sir. But I call everybody sir. Yeah, I get it. You're fired. I get it, but he's also the president of the United States I call him sir, but I call everybody sir. Yeah, I call everybody sir Yeah, it's like the byproduct of me living in Texas now, right sir. Yeah, but I don't know if they're gonna you don't get pulled over anymore here And if I do it's not that big if you get pulled over here a cop gives you money They go mr. Rogan here's a check I mean. I mean, there's no way. There's no

law that you cannot break here. I'm guaranteeing you. I don't think that's correct. I think you could do a lot. I think they would, you would, they would cover up a murder. That's sweet. If you murdered three people, I think the awesome PD would go, whatever man, he's doing a lot. They bring that mayor that guy and he'd go what they go Give the suspects Joe Rogan. He was standing over the bodies. They go. Are you out of your fucking mind? Drive him home right now Drive that man home if I was in waist-deep in rainy Street. Oh, yeah drowning a party goer. I don't care Bro they still don't want to admit that there's a serial killer. You're the tourism board.

Um, yeah, no, there's something's up. There's a serial killer. Something's going on. I believe there's a serial killer. And what are they doing? They're luring people to that bridge and then... Yeah, it's not hard. People like to go to the bridge.

You just got to look out for the bushes. So weird. I guess it's such a high to kill someone. To me, I'm like, what do you get out of it? But I guess the people that are doing it like it... They're broken. There's broken people. Some broken people do meth, and some broken people

drown guys who like to party. Do you ever talk to, like, I'm sure you have, this is a stupid question, but like the high level law enforcement guys that have just met these monsters and stuff? Oh yeah. And is there, do they believe that it's like, is there any part of them that believes someone's just born?

Yes. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And it's generally, you have psychotic parents. And so, was it, whether it's nature or nurture, it's hard to separate because you're probably abused. And generally, at an early age,

they show a willingness to torture house pets and stuff like that. Animals. Animals. Yeah. Yeah. They'll maybe start off with a frog they catch and stick a firecracker in its mouth and stuff like that. And then they eventually work their way up to humans.

Now it seems so much harder to do it because of these phones, surveillance. It is, but it's- You can still do it. Not in Austin. You can get away with drowning folks. You can drown people Why don't you think they'll admit it? They don't want people getting spooked. It's a good question. It's a good question. Maybe Maybe I'm wrong. I mean one of the things ever in Austin with those crazy yogurt shop murderers

HBO just came out with a documentary about that was many years ago this crazy yogurt shop murder thing HBO just did a doc happened in Austin. It was like a famous case and they it's completely unsolved except they put some people in jail for it. But then later let one of them out. Like it was just one of those things where nobody was sure about what happened. So there were murdering people that went to the yogurt place. It was 1991 and it just South by Southwest. They just did a huge. Oh, it was one homicide a quadruple homicide which took place at I can't believe it's yogurt shop in Austin that could have been me in 1991 It's a 34 years ago 34 years ago. It's an underbelly 14 girls were murdered in Austin 14 yeah, wow

in Austin. 14 yeah. Wow. And it's a puzzle. They don't know it's an unsolved murder. I'd check the boyfriends. And there's many different theories about it. Wow. That's crazy. Four men were arrested in charge of capital murder in 99 but two of their cases were overturned. The other two never went to trial. Wow. Interesting. So there are these things that happen. Oh yeah well that's what they say that if you just randomly shoot someone and kill them like if you're a real real like rando see like did you ever see that movie Henry portrait of a serial killer? No. It was about a guy named Henry Lee Lucas. Oh wow. Yeah and Henry Lee Lucas was attributed they attributed like 62 murders to him

The problem is I think one of the things cops do is they go Did you kill this guy? Yeah, I killed him too. Where'd you bury him? Where was he buried? Oh, that's where I buried him. That kind of thing. Now you got a case solved that was the that was the accusation about Henry because he was definitely a murderer and a grifter and a Drifter and he was traveling around the country stealing things and but then they made a movie about him And then the movie he it's like what he's way more sinister and calculated and but he would just randomly kill people So they they'll take credit for things they didn't do exactly to just beef up the body count exactly They want attention. They're already in jail. That's so wild

Yeah, yeah, that's a when you have shitty da's and shitty prosecutors and shitty cops. They'll do stuff like that Do you think that? There are people That are you know National Park seemed to be like a hotbed of people disappearing and do you think Appalachian Trail people? Yeah? Do you think that's people getting you or is that a lot of it like I got lost I got eaten you get lost Yeah, you get eaten. There's a guy who has this whole series for one. Is it 9-1-1 missing or 4-1-1 Missing people in national parks. Listen, man You're just meat out there and you get eaten and by the way, you don't find dead anything out there.

You don't find dead mountain lions. Guess what? They die all the time. I've never seen a dead mountain lion when I was hunting. Because they get eaten. They get eaten. Everything gets eaten. Not only do you get eaten, your bones get eaten. Everything gets eaten. So it's not uncommon to disappear and there's no trace.

No trace. Yeah, super common. So if you're in a high traffic area, to disappear and there's no trace. No trace. Yeah. Yeah, super common. So if you're in a high traffic area, like I have hunting, I've found elk bones where a hunter killed the elk and then took all the meat off the bones and then left the bones there. That's what you do when you pack out meat. Yeah. And I've found those animals.

I actually even found one animal that I shot a long time ago. I shot like four years ago. And you found it. Yeah. We were in the same location. It was the same bones. There wasn't all the bones there. Right. Some of them have been dragged away. Some of them have probably been eaten by rodents.

You know, they they eat the bones slowly, but surely. And if you're a human, you're made out of nothing. You're so easy to eat. Right. You know, like our bones are less dense our Meat is soft and chewy Yeah, you know like we could devoured a bear would eat your whole body There would be almost nothing left and rodents would eat what's left. Yeah, be careful in those places You can't be careful. Yeah, if you don't have a GPS navigation system Right that has a lot of batteries if you don't have a compass have a compass and know how to use it if you can't be careful. Yeah, if you don't have a GPS navigation system

Right that has a lot of batteries if you don't have a compass have a compass and know how to use it if you don't Have a map. It's so easy to get lost in the woods, right? It's so easy Yeah, they're all around you and you can go in one direction and circle around You don't even realize you're circling right and then three days later. You're back to where you started. You're like fucking no Yeah, it's a terrible tree bark for three days and you're saying one any step. I'm gonna see the highway What a horrible thing people die like that all all the time all the time just go to a hotel It's very difficult to go to a resort if you don't know the woods You're not used to being in the woods and you're not used to having landmarks

Yeah Follow and know how to use a compass know how to use a jeep some people are good at it And even they get eaten you know they're getting to where you break your ankle, right? How about you break your ankle out there, and you can't hike out. It's not possible right? What do you do? Yeah, you fucking die. That's what you do gotta be very careful, and then you hear something at night You're sleeping under a tree and here's something at night You see you had a bear sniffing you you can can't run away and you don't have a weapon and you can't do anything It just eats you alive and those would just so dense in the Pacific Northwest and stuff like that

I mean and everywhere but especially the Pacific especially there. It's a crazy Yeah, you don't find nothing out there that but that's why the Bigfoot rumor persists up there Is because the woods are like a box of q-tips, right? You know like you can't see shit out there You know what you see like a little shadow moving in between trees and you've decided it's a Bigfoot, right? Yeah, but it's just like a bear it could be right. It's most likely a bear Especially bears walking on two legs northern California is weird like that too. I mean that's part of the Pacific Northwest probably Yeah, you get killed up there. Yeah people die up there all the time. Did you ever see that?

Documentary Sasquatch. No, it's a documentary that was I was on Hulu Jamie we had the Director and at the go created it was awesome And it was really about is about marijuana growers murdered a guy and then blamed it on Bigfoot. Wow. So these marijuana growers in Humboldt, like up that area. So they all were hippies, right? And then they started growing weed and then cartel people moved in and gangs moved in and they started robbing these people.

So these people became heavily armed and And so then they started having wars with like the growers and cartel people. And so there was these people that were trying to steal from them, they murdered these people, and then they blamed it on Bigfoot. They like ran over him with a fucking backhoe and crushed him five. These hippies are really violent.

Oh they get violent once it's money. These hippies are junkies, and you know, this whole hippie thing I think is kind of a lie. Well they all become people with money. Right. If you're growing weed. You become a multimillionaire who's carrying a side arm. OK?

And you're going to protect your money. And then these people are trying to kill you to take your shit. So then you're like fucking Jason whatever's name is in Ozark. Right. What's his name? Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman.

Right. And now you're a drug dealer. That's so funny. It's so funny the weird marijuana where it's federally still illegal, but states, it's legal in certain states. And there's that gray area where there's just like, you know, half of that business is in the shadows and half of it's, and people make lots of money.

It's strange. Well, not only that, because California made it legal, they also made it a misdemeanor to grow it illegally, right? So what happens is these cartels started growing it on National Forest land and so then game warden started finding it There's a guy named John Norris has been on the podcast before he wrote a book called Hidden War Yeah And it was all about he was a game warden and he became a part of a tactical crew War yeah, and it was all about he was a game warden and he became a part of a tactical crew that was busting

Cartel members were heavily armed growing marijuana in national forests Because they most of the illegal weed that's been sold all over the country was being grown there So in the places where it is illegal they grow it where it's legal and if get busted, it's just a misdemeanor. So it doesn't matter. And they're not going to deport anybody because California is a sanctuary state. Right. So it doesn't matter how many acres and acres of weed. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. And so because it's federally illegal, it's just like when there was the prohibition that propped up organized crime. Same thing. You've just propped up illegal businesses to sell something that has a demand that normal. Do you think weed is going to be federally legal? If I had to guess not during this administration. Yeah. No, I don't think. I think. It feels like a lot of the you know like the experimental harm reduction policies in places like Portland to go in the other way. Well they went a little crazy in a

place that was already crazy. Yeah they had a woman driving around shooting people up called the Stabbingbing wagon and she was like if somebody needed if somebody needed a fix she'd like pull up and give them clean needles and stuff. Is it really called the stabbing wagon? It was called the stabbing wagon. Yeah because you're stabbing and if you're just tweeting. No this is like a way to help. Oh Portland. This was a way to help people. And people would just be chilling and like hey I need a couple clean needles So this woman would just show up there'd be like a bunch of junkies hanging out

She'd shot should hop out of the stabbing wagon with a bunch of clean needles hand them out people like fuck Yeah, good to see you my god, and she's like fuck. Yeah. Hope you're all doing good They're like well. You know how it is and the problem was that didn't work Not only did it not work, it encouraged people to move there to shoot up. Yeah, actually that's true. So people started moving there because they're like, this is actually a pretty good deal. They don't care if you live on the street and there's this bitch in a van that shows up with clean needles. And they give you money.

Yeah, and whatever you need. They give you free money and food. Yeah. Yeah. Here it is, the stab you free money and food. Yeah. Yeah here It is the stabbing wagon stabbing wagon harm reduction. I mean, it's real. She only has 4,000 followers That's fucked to hit that follow Jamie hit a little follow on her. There you go. Look at this step There's a stabbing wagon. Well, at least she's healthy Wagon, okay At the end of the day

It's like that that seems like a good way to combat Drug use is to have a van of drugs that van got a 1.5 million dollar grant Did you see that see that in the previous article? Of course 1.5 million dollar grant because they're trying to help people Get high they're trying to help people get high in a safe way, but where she parked that van That's what I need to know. I mean, it's a good question She probably lived in the burbs and then came in and then did what she needed a burbs lady Well, that's a good point. Well, you know those weird the north this those specific Northwest suburbs a lot of them aren't

My burbs the ones that I like very odd those yeah, it's different. They're like people that live outside of Chernobyl Yeah, they're forever change. It's it's different. There's not a lot of sun up there. Something's going on. Bad DNA damage. What was funny is that there was a big article where they were like, yeah, this is actually like, what's crazy is like, you read about those cities, right? Like Portland and San Francisco. They'll do the craziest thing ever.

And then like two years later, they'll start going like, yeah, this just is not having the results that we thought it would have. Like this is drug use is up crime is up Violence is up. So Santa Monica now is doing a curfew because there's been violent crimes at night No way they're thinking about doing a curfew in Santa Monica. So again because Yes, Santa Monica is thinking about doing a curfew because there's like violent crime So instead of just going like hey,, we gotta throw these people in jail. Like it's nine o'clock, go home.

This is California. This is the biggest economy in our country. And you're thinking of having a curfew because they're all out of ideas on how to like stop people from like being victims of violent crime. I got friends who can't sell their houses there. No, it's bad. I'm glad I got, I sold my house when it did. Nobody wants to buy houses there.

Nobody wants to buy houses there. They're like, we're getting out. Everybody who's not out is at least thinking about it. Uber rich people are, um, a lot of them are just keeping their houses cause they can't get the money they want. So like people that are like in Bel Air, those crazy things, right? Right. Beverly Hills, Bel Air, these behemoths, they're just kind of like, just leave it. You got to hope that like there's some crazy celebrity rapper guy

like Kendrick Lamar decides to buy a mansion. Well, you also mean like if you're selling a 70 million dollar house, you have like five people that will buy. You also got to hope that they they elect Rick Caruso and he goes around California in a tank. With a bunch of guys in bazookas and it's like the craziest thing you've ever seen. That's all you can hope for. You need like a Rudy Giuliani type character. Yeah, I mean, you need you need Sergeant Slaughter from the old WWF.

You need a fully fascist. You need a guy to run as a fascist. When they go, are you a Republican? He goes, no, no, no, no, no. I am a fascist? This is a military dictatorship. You need four years of a military dictatorship to California to just turn it around, to just start steering it the other way. Well, it's moving red. That's one thing you saw by the electoral map from 2024. California is moving red.

Yeah, it's going red. Yeah, slowly but surely. There's always so many times you can wake up in a four million dollar house with a gun in your mouth Before you start thinking differently About it, you know, they were trying to pass laws Where they're they're deciding how much violence is enough violence if someone breaks into your house, like you shoot them too many times. Right.

In the middle of being terrified. Absolutely. They will always take the side of the people that are trying to destroy civilization. Do you think that when you don your tin foil hat and Velcro the chin strap, do you think that this is a grand plan to destroy civilization? I think what you have, I don't know if it's a grand plan, but I think what you have is you have two things that are happening simultaneously. You have.

Uh, the the people, the very the last people that seem to want to be in politics are people that believe in like nothing They're like empty suit Gavin Newsome types who just really don't seem they just whatever room they're in Yeah, well that proves my point that proves my point now, right? He's a believer. So now he's like, oh things are going right I'll go to the right things are going to the left I'll go to the right. Things are going to the left, I'll go to the left. So you have like these people that just don't, they will not like Sanders or Trump, whatever you think about them, they're not going to like quote, stand on business.

They're not going to tell people, here's where I'm at. This is the way I feel. They're just empty vessels. And then at the same time you have that happening, you have the craziest people in the world that somehow have gotten hold of a ton of money and a ton of influence on social media and those empty suit politicians are like scared of these lunatics that believe the craziest things you've ever heard. So these politicians are just like taking edicts from these crazy people online who tell them that we need the stabbing wagon and we need all this stuff. I don't I don't know

how that happened that somebody should should look at that how that happened and and Study it and I think it's a lot of these politicians are deeply corrupt And I think they were terribly afraid of these politicians are deeply corrupt. And I think they're terribly afraid of whatever corruption they're involved with coming to the surface. And it could be personal in their personal life. It could be with the state. I think, you know, the mismanagement of money, of resources, all of that stuff.

So if I was a really corrupt politician, I would just do the craziest left-wing shit so that I could never be accused of anything. Good move. And I would just let them do whatever the hell they want. I'd go, yeah, well, fuck it, whatever. We got a new law that says you gotta, they gotta draw blood in your house from you before you can defend yourself.

We need a rapper. Yeah. Rappers are the last people in this country that can kinda get away with almost anything. Well, rappers are honest. A lot of them, even though they might lie about how much money they have and stuff They do there's a certain honesty to that genre of music Clearly you go too far like P Diddy you can go too far, but did he wasn't super honest? He seemed to be concealing a bit. He seemed to be yeah, do you think he was working for somebody?

Or working with somebody or do you think it was all his own? If the CIA was like we can't really we don't really know anything about like these this world of like, you know That's not what we do. We're like a bunch of Harvard guys and we have these fucking weirdos that We know about how to get in with like our people But we need someone who was like a black guy to do it. It could have been P. Diddy. But didn't all the accusations come out after he was involved in a lawsuit with Siroc?

Like he was trying- That's what people said, yeah. Yeah, that's where it gets interesting, right? Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be- You gotta be very careful when you start fucking around with people's billions. Big powerful billionaires are probably, they're their own governments.

So I mean, when you run afoul of them, I think there's many ways at which they can get you. Also they feel like they pay so much money for taxes. I think that's, a lot of these intelligence agencies are working for those people. They're not, I think, on their own. There's big money to be made. And there's a lot of the people that own these companies and have been rich for a very long

time and who aren't on reality TV. You don't really know who they are, but they like, some of them are on the Forbes list. Some of them aren't. Some of them are just incredibly wealthy and they've made their money in ways that you could barely understand. And those are people that, you know, are the reason historically that the CIA

is going into Latin America and overthrowing government so that United Fruit can, you know. It's true. Have a monopoly. Have a monopoly, right? It's like, this is is so they're doing things at the behest of these ultra wealthy families that control huge industries. Sure.

And they always have. I mean, that's back to Smedley but butlers. That's right. A racket. Thousand percent. Yeah. And that was 1933. He wrote that or something.

And that's the way the whole thing seems to be organized. Yeah. And always has been. We're just learning it now, you know, that's all the difference But it is falling apart now because some of their kids are doing stand-up comedy No, literally, I mean there are people are young in New York And they're just like their parents are some of the wealthiest people in the world and these kids are like doing stand-up Which is terrible sign for the Empire these kids are like doing stand up, which is terrible sign for the empire.

That's not a great sign for the empire is that like a guy that would have taken over his dad's business is like doing dick jokes. Well, he probably has a trust fund. So he probably has a safety blanket and sees we're having fun. It's like, I want to have, for sure. Like my dad have a fucking heart attack when I'm 49. That's right. But we need them doing that. Some of a fucking heart attack when I'm 49. That's right, but we need them doing that some of them I haven't heart attacks. Yes

Everyone can't be a clown like we did there is something deeply unhealthy about the illuminati doing stand-up I don't love that idea. How well unless they're using chat GPT. How good could their material beer? It's not ideal Okay, it's a lot of crowd work. And even if they do, it's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, GPT has not shown any ability to really craft a good joke yet. It's just funny to meet some of these people and then you talk to them and they'll just like casually drop that they're like, you know, the parents like billionaires.

And you're like, that's awesome, man. And they're just doing bar shows. It's kind of interesting. And they're nice people, but just to pull out and look at it from a sociological standpoint, it says something about people's idea of the future that these people just like wanna be famous now. How many of them are there?

There's some more than you'd think. Really? Yeah. And it's a New York thing? Yeah, it's a lot of rich people live there. And I'm talking about mega rich like not right not like hey My dad's a successful whatever. I'm talking about like whoa Billions big money. Yeah, where you go interesting and then the kids don't have any pressure to do anything The kids kind of float around and they're they're doing stay. It's just very funny

It's something makes me live just like a billionaire kid on stage looking at someone in the audience going What do you do for a living? The crowd work, huh? Yeah, what do you do for a living? Maybe this is the first time they've met people that aren't billionaires That could also be a thing This might be a way to just socialize Illuminati kids. They've met their housekeepers before. Maybe they asked them, like, what should I talk about on stage? Well, yeah, I mean, they have,

and what's funny is like they have parties in their big houses and bring their other comic friends who are bums, you know, young comics, I mean, we're all bums. So then like the parents are like, hello. And they bring in like a bum and they go, this is my buddy. And then, you know, he's just like staring at them going whoa this place rocks yeah and they're like these are my friends and I think the parents are kind of like oh well isn't that nice

maybe it's a phase I think the parents look at it like they're going through a phase that's interesting that there's more than one of them do it's a it says something about that group of people that used to run everything, they have a dearth of purpose in their life. They're kind of aimless and they float around. I don't mean specifically rich comedian kids, I just mean like that ruling class,

what are they doing now? They don't really have a purpose. They kind of float around, they try to this new age spirituality bullshit. They travel all over the place. You look at any of these rich kids Instagrams, all they're doing is traveling. It's all the same shit. We're in Gwila. Go here, go there. There's no purpose. You know, I think they don't feel like America's has a defining mission. Like if you look at families like the Kennedys, the Bushes, whatever you think about those families,

they served in the military, they believed that there was some type of arc of history that they were a part of. I feel like a lot of rich people now just kind of don't believe in much of anything and it's just kind of like, I don't know, bored, they start a fake company. Well, if your whole focus is just making more money,

how much time can you spend believing in things? Right. That's going to take away from your ability to earn. Yeah. I think that's one of the big problems now. And that's why I think you saw a lot of people get crazy on the left. And they started instituting all these weird virtue,

these purity tests and stuff like that, is because I think they feel a lack of meaning and they wanted to give them, a lot of them wanted to be self-flagellation and like they wanted the tenets of religion, they wanted meaning and they just don't have it. So I think that's what happens with a lot of them. And their kids are nice people, they're not bad people. It's just funny to see like, because most people who do comedy, a lot of them aren't poor, a lot of them are like middle-class people

because they have like the ability to go and at least think it's an option. But it is funny when someone goes, I'm doing comedy and I'm from, I'm the scion of great wealth. Scion's a great word. It's an interesting thing to me, just because I've always been fascinated with rich people

and like these people that run the world. and it's so interesting that some of their kids are like I want to I'm gonna do stand-up comedy. When was the first time you met a really rich person? How old were you? I met a couple of like mafia people that my dad used to play music so they owned some bars but they weren't super rich. I would observe them because my uncle was the director of operations for all these restaurant groups in New York City, this restaurant group in New York City that had these big high-end steak houses. And I would go, and one of them was on 63rd and Park, and I would sit in this steak house with my parents. I was probably eight or nine years old. And you'd look around,

and I said to my dad once, I was like, maybe 10 or 11. And this is a weird thing to say to a 10 or 11 year old. I was like, who are these people? My dad goes, these people run the world. I was just very fascinated by all these like people that were so different. Cause in Long Island where I came from, everyone was loud and fighting all the time. And my best friend Josh who lived two houses down from me, his mother Eileen would scream at his father

in the front yard. And he was like a conductor for the railroad. And she would just go, why didn't you do it? And then you would go to Manhattan. And a lot of these restaurants that my uncle had, you'd see these kind of quiet people. And they were all very well dressed. And they were in suits.

And in Manhattan, they live in these stone townhouses. Like Epstein did. They live in these little mini stone townhouses. And I was just fascinated. I was like, it's very interesting. These people are interesting. What are they up to type of thing? And then you start reading about them.

And it is just super interesting because they're a very big reason why society looks the way it does. 100%. And that to me was an interesting thing. It's like, why are certain people in certain positions? What role do the politicians play and what role do these really quiet rich people play? Yeah.

That are kind of waspy and could be Jewish, could be anything. They're just kind of like, you know, they're quiet. They don't really want you to know too much about them. They really value their privacy. So it's funny with the kids doing stand-up comedy to me, and even these rich people that go on these reality shows, it's interesting that it used to be sacrilegious, the idea that you would show people how much money you had, or that you would talk about yourself, and a lot of that started to change,

like a lot of these rich people just wanna be famous, almost feels like it's the last thing left. His attention. Well, most young kids today, when they ask them, what do you wanna be, a giant percentage of them say famous. They want to be an influencer, they want to be a TikTokker,

a YouTuber, they want to be famous. Because why would you want a job like your parents have when you could just open sneakers? Yeah. Open, so I'm going to do an unboxing show. That's a good point. Yeah, like why would you want a regular job? Yeah.

Regular jobs are soul sucking, especially you work, look it's one thing if you have a career, one thing you start your own business, it's something exciting, there's another thing to be working for somebody. Working for somebody is horrible for the most part. It is, but I think people can derive enjoyment from things outside of their jobs.

Sure, but that leaves you one third of your day that's been eaten up. Yes. You have one third of your day for sleep, one third of your day that's been eaten up by this have one third of your day for sleep, one third of your day that's been eaten up by this bullshit job, and then the remaining hours between commutes and whatever the fuck you eat, all has to be wrapped up in...

It is, I get it. I totally get it. If you're a young kid, you go on YouTube, you go, I wanna be David Dobrik. I don't wanna be... Who's that? David Dobrik, he's like a big guy on YouTube. Oh, okay.

He does, I don't know. Mr. Beast? He's like a Mr. Beast type. He's He does I don't know he's like a Mr. Beast type He's not as big. Mr. Beast is like a planet. Yeah, but Dobrik's big You know or or whoever like they look at these young and they entertain like younger people He does fun videos about like hey, whatever. I don't know that you know, it's always the same It's like what if I filled a pool with M&Ms? Whatever, you know, it's like that type of thing, you type of thing. It's not like the Ukraine deep dive or whatever.

It's a fun, like goofy thing. And kids look at that and go, well, that guy's making a lot of money. He has a great car. He's got a hot girlfriend. He lives in a big mansion. I wanna be that guy. Of course.

But I think they missed the idea that that guy works really, really hard. Right. Like that's the thing that I think people don't understand about these social media people. They do have a crazy constitution in terms of, like, how much they post. How hard they're working.

Now, you might say, okay, this stuff they do is ridiculous or silly or not valuable, and I might agree on a lot of those things. But they are always putting it out. Yeah, they're showing up. They're always showing up. Yeah, if you want to compete in any market, anything, no matter what you do, there's a certain amount of work you have to put in, the idea that it's easy.

There's got to be some reason why most of them don't rise to the top. Right. What is it? How do you feel that? Can you teach people to work hard? I'm sure you can. What do you think? Because can you teach people to work hard? I'm sure you can. What do you think?

Because I've seen so many people that are super talented, but they, for whatever reason, they're not that muscle of working hard or the dedication to it. I think generally it has to be established early in your life. And if you don't establish that early in your life, it's not a thing that you gravitate towards. It's not. You don't recognize that, oh, hard work equals results. If you

get lucky, you do sports. Because sports make you physically uncomfortable, they test your will. If you're a marathon runner and you got to get up every day and do those fucking miles, that will test your will. if you're doing track and field or football or anything you're doing where it's a lot of work, like and then you realize I've gotten better because of all this work and if I work harder maybe I could be the starting quarterback. If I work harder maybe, and that's a real factor

for young kids I think. Getting them into any sort of difficult physical endeavor. Whatever it is, competitive physical endeavors make you understand. That's why I thought that show Dance Moms was good, that fat woman who screamed at those kids and demanded greatness and would make them cry. I thought that was good.

You never saw Dance Moms, a great show. This woman, Abby Miller, she screamed at these young kids and one of them became JoJo Siwa, so it's not like there was any damage done became Jojo Siwa. So it's not like there was any damage done. And, uh, you know, I think it's good. I like to see greatness demanded of children. This lady, what are, look at her here. Watch this woman here. You will jump higher. You will turn faster. That's right. You will also act. You will sing. You're not just preparing for a dance competition

every weekend, we're preparing for you to become stars in Los Angeles. How does that bitch know how to be a star in Los Angeles? Look at her. She can't get a seat at Roscoe's. By the way, I guarantee you she can get a seat at Roscoe's. Really? That's the one place she can get a seat.

If you saw her, you wouldn't sit her in Roscoe's? The first thing I would kick someone out for her in Roscoe's. That's the one place she'd get. If you saw her, you wouldn't sit her in Roscoe's? The first thing I would kick someone out for her in Roscoe's. But yeah, but yeah, it is interesting that a lot of these kids now, they just look at, you know, the followers and sure. How do you feel about your apparent? Do you, do you, do you, when the Jonathan Haidt book comes out and he goes, we should get rid of phones for kids until they're 16 does that make sense or not really you know because alienate your kids look it's a new world that they have to learn how to navigate and if they don't learn how to navigate until they're 18 they're at a huge disadvantage they got to understand that

it's just people talking but there's a lot of pressure like for young girls it's the worst time because they're comparing themselves to all these other girls You're seeing a rise and eating disorders self-harm suicide Suicidal ideation and it's a lot of it is like they get depressed comparing their life to other people And when you're young and you don't understand you're 13 You don't get how your mind works and you're just sad every time you open up your Instagram app And you don't look anything like these ladies who don't look anything like that either Right, which is really crazy, right, you know and your head is filled with all of this. Yeah unhealthy

Thoughts I kind of got off social media for the most part Real recently over the last few days. I'm barely on it, right and I feel better Right, I feel way more normal, way more, not constantly checking to see what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's happening in the world. Instead, just like, I'll find the bad things, they'll come to me for sure.

They'll figure it out. So I check in the morning, like, oh, make sure there's no more going on, and then I go about my day, the whole day, and then maybe I check again in the afternoon real quick now I'm not spending like massive amounts of time anymore now and because of that I feel better and I'm like okay people that give up their phones always talk about that had to hear birds and all this bullshit you know well you feel better you feel like

there's not this low hum of wondering what's going on in the world all the time and wondering who's saying this and why they doing that and how's the What's the new thing? What's this? What's that? It is good to detach it is interesting Imagine if you just didn't even engage like didn't really look weren't in it at all Fascinates me way better for you So you think it would be miserable to just be happy somewhere? Woody Harrelson doesn't even have a phone really don't have phone doesn't have email No, no when he showed up at the club. He just sort of showed up. They said Woody Harrelson doesn't even know a phone really don't have phone doesn't have email No, no when he showed up at the club. He just sort of showed up. They said Woody Harrelson's here. Okay, let him in

Wanted to hang out knew I was there. Could just wow find you and hang out with you. Yeah, he's like he's smart You know doesn't build Murray's the same way doesn't connect to any said I had to get a phone because my kids text So I text my kids and that's it Smart yeah, that's so smart. You don't want to be connected You don't want to be connected you gotta you gotta check out have to be if you're a young comic you have to be connected Because you have to build followers to get booked now because these clubs are like we got to book people with followers You're not necessarily looking at who's working harder Who's good and I feel for a lot of younger people

because they have to, they have to have a social media presence early on, maybe even before they figured out what they wanna say. Maybe before they figured out how to say it the right way. For sure. They have to have this social media presence. And I think people become, and it's a dopamine hit, right, to do things.

I get it. Like you get followers, you get rewarded. It's a whole system, but it also could take over your life You have 100% to take over your life and you and I well me more so than you grew up without it And then it came on later in life like what how old were you when you first got online dude? I had a blackberry I was I was working in my early 20s out with a blackberry and that's very different than an iPhone sure that's email It's email so we're getting emails from our like business from our like our manager at work going

Will you fucking losers do something like things like that like because we couldn't sell any But I remember seeing people with blackberries in the early days of yeah tech going man. That seems really addictive Yeah, because you could take a shitty photo and send it to someone could email a photo You would take a chin photo and send it to someone. You could email a photo. You would take a, and the photos were like terrible quality. But just the idea of like at your job, just sending someone an email photo was like hilarious. Like being out somewhere and taking a photo and emailing it to somebody going fuck you,

I'm not at work, that was like fun. The thing was though that they couldn't escape the emails. The emails, they were constantly checking and I was like oh well this is like super addictive. Like these guys that I work with on FearFact, they're always on their BlackBerrys. There was a New York City realtor, this lady Dolly Lenz was like the top realtor

in New York City, she did a BlackBerry commercial, she famously had like eight BlackBerrys because she would just get all these contracts and stuff, she would like hand them out to her assistants and stuff and they'd respond to over, she would get over 700 emails a day at the height of her thing, she was selling all this real estate. So black, that was the first time I didn't have a smartphone

in junior high or high school. Ah, that's nice. I had like a flip phone, people had razor phones, I didn't even have that, I had like a Sprint LG or some bullshit, and then I got BlackBerry's, and I think my first iPhone was like in my 20s, like mid-20s. Yeah, that's good.

It wasn't, I wasn't like connected like that. Yeah, these kids are connected from the time they're six years old. And I mean, my godson, he's like four years old and he has an iPad, they just give him an iPad. Yeah, they just sit in front of the pad. Well, if they go to a restaurant, they set it up in front of the kids.

They set it up, and he just sits there and he does, I don't know what he's watching, Gaza maybe, I don't know what he's doing. No one knows either. They just does I don't know what he's watching Gaza Maybe I don't know what he's doing. No one knows either. They just I Don't know what he's found, you know, that's the other thing you hope like best case he's playing some game But well for boys they mean yeah start jerking off Interesting the moment they could find porn sites right they tell their other thing like I feel like that's also damaged people's No, like dad damaged people's ability to like, go out and meet a woman.

Oh, 100%. And that's why they're not meeting women. Like the number of incels today is off the charts. The number of men that don't have sex at all, it's some crazy, it's like 50%. And the porn is not even regular porn anymore. A lot of it's like hyper violent, sadistic, crazy porn. Really?

That's what they said. Tell me what you're searching for. People whose heads are going through glass tables. No, but that's what like, when you have these articles that are written about this, they say it's not only that they're watching porn, it's the type of porn. It's not like regular porn. Oh God.

It's like crazy shit and it warps their fucking brain. I heard the dumbest argument on Twitter the other day. Someone was saying that they should create CGI child porn to protect real children From child porn you should probably search that person searches through Sounds like this is it's an interesting Argument, yeah, she'd have AI child porn well I think that argument is like they've kind of sex doll argument right the toe didn't they have like that argument for I feel like it's part of the same type of there's the same type of thinking

Yeah, I think generally that argument is created by people who aren't pedophiles because they're trying to figure out well Maybe this is a solution. Well, you're not thinking they're also like I'll make some money with this kid sex doll company What a weird way to make a fortune Odd way to make a fortune. I made a little bit of money. What'd you do? Don't worry the perfect 11 year old boy butthole. Don't worry about it. What'd you do? I had kids sex all anyway, have you been to the Four Seasons and then can't come It's crazy. Yeah, we're getting to a point where the world is really scary but also equally unbelievable and absurd.

So you have, it's funny, but it's also insane. And I think people are like, we don't know what's real anymore. These AI videos come out, and you don't know what's real and what's not. The deep fakes are getting better. That seems to be one of the biggest problems that no one talks about is like, reality seems to be splintering.

100%. Yeah. Reality is splintering and then AI is about to take over our lives and we're openly cheering it. Right. And the world will never be the same again once it does. And we're welcoming it. Ironically, I think comedians seem to be somewhat in the safer group of people. In what way? Oh, as far as our jobs are taken away? Comedians seem to be somewhat in the safer group of people. In what way? Oh, as far as our jobs are taken away? Yeah, in the sense that perspective seems like maybe one of the harder things for AI to grasp at this moment.

Well, it's also live performance is the last human stand. Right. Where you could go and see something, you go see a guy actually play a guitar You know that's that's so much different and that that's a real human experience live sporting events You know like real things things that are real. You know, that's that's gonna be That's gonna be the hardest to be replaced by AI. Yeah Because you know you can replace us on podcasts

You essentially could take my perspectives that I've shared over the past 2,000 plus episodes and run it through a large language model and Use AI and have me have a podcast with basically anybody. It's such a crazy library you have it's like I wonder what what you do with it Hmm good question. It's an interesting It's a great question Sell it to China. What if after Spotify you go to China? Yeah, that's a great idea. It would be actually a great idea if you just sit down and nothing's changing about the podcast

It's still gonna be free. It's gonna be in Mandarin. It's owned by the Chinese government, but it's the same podcast I've always been don't worry about it. The same show. It's always been you guys know me. I won't change Yeah, your first guest is Jack Ma Tell me what happened with Alibaba Yeah, I mean it's crazy it's a place I'd like to go I've never been in China I'd like to go cuts Yeah, I would do it that way. Oh my god, it's cuts It would be someone talking just an ad cuts just an ad just cut you go. It's the same podcast It's always been it's now 37 minutes because China's taken out all the stuff

They're not long the beginning of it I'd love to go to China just to access websites and go what can you really say right? That would be super fascinating to be in China going like what are you allowed? What is blocked do they use VPNs in China successfully? I mean that possibly right they have to maybe not I don't know I don't know North Korea seems to block everything like certain countries can do a lot Yeah, they have their own internet right like you can only get on their internet. I'm unsure but that seems to make sense. That's a According to people that have been there. Yeah, yeah, they have their own internet like just can you use a VPN in China to access? The internet of the world. Let's search that.

Yeah, that'd be interesting. I need to know. Because so many people, I believe, are very limited with what they can access. Many, many, many people in the world are very limited. Well, look at the UK. They're just arresting people for Facebook posts. They're going nutty.

That's one of the crazier things in modern life life is that people are getting arrested over social media. And not really bad stuff. It's saying things that someone finds... We've got to stop these immigrants. Yeah. That kind of stuff. Yes, some VPNs work in China, but their effectiveness varies due to the country's strict internet

censorship known as the Great Firewall. Chinese government actively blocks many VPN services and only a few reliable ones consistently bypass restrictions. VPNs like ExpressVPN, NordVPN, Surfshark are often cited as effective but they require specific configuration, e.g. obfuscated servers or protocols like OpenVPN to evade detection. Performance can be inconsistent with slowdowns or temporary blocks being heightened censorship during heightened censorship periods such as political events. China occasionally cracks down on VPN uses targeting both the providers and individual users though enforcement against foreigners is typically lenient focusing on warnings rather than severe

penalties. Using a VPN as technically illegal for accessing blocked content, but millions, including expats and locals, use them daily. Boy, that's a risky move. I think they're banning this stuff in the UK because I don't think they want people to persist in this idea that they have any ability to challenge this prevailing narrative that any critique of immigration is an inherently racist thing.

And I think the people that are sponsoring this, kind of an odious thing, and it's because what they're doing is they're basically immiserating these people. They're making the quality of their life much worse. They're losing ground, and if they speak up about it, they're called horrible names. And then they're called horrible names. And then they're arrested. So it's crazy.

And they don't understand why it's happening. They're not completely, they're very confused about why a lot of these countries didn't take any Syrian refugees. But Europe did. and Scandinavia did, the Netherlands did. And they're confused about that and they're asking questions and going, why is that the case? And they're confused about why when any disruption happens and it's clearly the result of bringing in large numbers of people who are not familiar with the laws of the country, the culture of the

country. When anything happens and they bring it up they're again called a racist or you know an extremist or they're arrested. So it's good and then who's doing it right? So you have the people, like the people clearly that are in the government and these incredibly wealthy business interests that want people to work for a lot less money and they wanna destroy people's social bonds because I think they really do want people

to eventually just accept this kind of totalitarian surveillance state. Yes, give up. And the way to get them there is by breaking the spirit of these countries, by destroying any social bonds that people have, and destroying any economic power, and destroying their belief in the democratic process. And if they can do that, they can break people, they can get them to do anything they want. Do you think they're doing this in preparation for AI? I think they're doing it in preparation for not only technological advancements, I think

they're doing it in preparation for world wars. I think they are doing it in preparation for a lot of things. I think they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military. I believe that. I believe they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military. I think they're looking at populations. I think they're looking at people not having enough children. I think they're saying, who's going to fight these wars? Who's going to do these really shitty jobs? And we're going to go build houses in bunkers and all of this stuff. We're going to fly private and we we're gonna have our kids go to completely separate schools

and we're gonna have our own water aquifiers and have a compound. But why do you need all these low-wage people in your country that are illegal and don't have any power? Has anyone asked that question? Seems very obvious. They're gonna conscript a lot of them into the military and a lot of them are gonna do shitty horrible jobs and they're gonna use them as cannon fodder in wars that enrich lots of people. That would be my guess. Jesus Christ. Yeah.

I might be wrong but... And if AI does become the governing factor of the world, which it probably will. It doesn't really make sense that you let humans, with all their corruption and emotions, govern things when you can let superintelligence. Yeah, but who's making that intelligence? That becomes the problem. Exactly. But once you've already gotten people

locked into compliance, and you've already got people where they're terrified to protest against anything, immigration, whatever it is, then you can get got people where they're terrified to protest against anything immigration, whatever it is Then you could you can get away with a lot more There was a decision made because the the the the populist Democrats during the 90s, which was like Bill Clinton You know critical of immigration Barack Obama critical of immigration deported a lot of people Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton What started to happen though is there was a decision made that the world was going to kind of be a borderless place where countries were interchangeable and that nation states

mattered a lot less than the financial architecture of global capital and where it could go. And you need a world government. And you need a government that is a world government or the closest world order. The closest thing you can get to it which is you having an EU right? Right. And then having a government between the UK and the US that's pretty on the same page about everything and then you have Israel in the Middle East. And then you have, you know, all of these, you know, disparate areas that we kind of control

through economic means or military means and stuff like that. And then you have outliers. You have China, Iran, Russia, you know, whatever, people that haven't gotten the memo for whatever reason. I don't wanna live in any of those places. That's the argument. They'll go, well, do you wanna live in, shut up.

That's, what are we idiots? I don't wanna live in any of those places. That's the argument. They'll go, well, do you want to live in it? Shut up. That's what are we idiots? I don't want to live in any of those places, but they're not on. They didn't get the memo. So and then in all of these countries, by the way, in Europe, in America, not so much Israel, they don't love the immigration, as we can see. They're kind of big on the borders. Israel, they like the borders.

But in America and Europe and Scandinavia and all these countries, the populations were just told to accept massively high levels of immigration over a very short period of time. That's odd. That doesn't make any sense. And if you point that out, you're called a racist and extremist. And that's a very strange thing. What are you doing with all these people? The Biden administration brought in 10 million people over four years. What are they here for?

There's not enough jobs for the people that are here. We have vast chasms of wealth and equality. We have AI coming. We have automation coming. Why would you bring in all of these people? What are you trying to do? What do you think they're trying to do? I think that exactly what I said, I think they

need bodies. They think they can and father. I think they need to break the idea of any social bonds that exist between people. You know, listen, and they need a little chaos. They need a little chaos. I think you bring more law. Yeah.

You bring in people, more surveillance, more dependence on the government. You get people out of the idea. You know, they got people out of the idea years ago that you could barely, you can in people more surveillance more dependence on the government you get people out of the idea You know they got people out of the idea years ago that you could barely you can't really it's very hard to have your own Business now they've pretty much extinguished that in people's heads even though there are people that still do it Now I think they're gonna start to extinguish idea that you can have home With your own property right that you could drive a car that you can do all of these things that you're gonna extinguish that idea and they're gonna do that because

Why why not control everybody? It'll be all way most yeah, that's the that's the thing why not control everybody Yeah, why would you let everybody just go run rampant and fuck up your business? Yeah, so they're basically like we got to pacify these people. The conflicts seem inevitable and we're going to have to fight these wars. The good news is a lot of the people who are doing this, their children are now doing stand up combat. So if they're unable, are any of them any good? If they're, I think some of them. I'm sure, I'm sure. Have you seen any of them that are any good? I haven't seen a ton.

It's just, it's one of those things that you hear now more than ever. When you're talking to a young comic and they go on, I'm hanging out with this person. I go, yeah, and they go, and their dad owns this. You can go, really? Yeah. Just a curious thing.

Obviously anyone in the world should be able to do comedy as much as they want. But it's funny to me as somebody who just looked at these configurations of power and wealth It's kind of interesting that a lot of these kids are like doing it's just fun Have you ever met anybody who came from a really wealthy background that was good at stand-up? No, I mean not very yes Yeah, there are some of them for sure. You've met them. I've not met them. They probably don't like me unicorns Yeah, they're they're around and yes, yes, very wealthy. But I'm talking about like weird,

kind of interesting levels of wealth and power. That's interesting. That's super interesting to me. But so the good news is if they can't get this done soon, their kids won't because their kids will be at fucking side splitters in Tampa. Or they'll be podcasting. Or they'll be podcasting, yeah.

Yeah, they'll all get together, become influencers get together become in funny how much they know they now focus really on podcasters But they ignore all the things all the people that we're talking about the content. No, there's no they don't report on any of those people No, there's 10 million articles about Theo von having Ken and so it's on a show, but but there's no articles about like of on having Ken and so on. Right. But there's no articles about, again, the people that seem to be running and owning all of our resources. You'd think someone would write about the people that

own a lot of the resources on the planet we live. Listen, that's complicated. Did you see that crazy thing the government talked about yesterday? They had a press conference where they said that we can manipulate time and space No, did you see that Jamie? I didn't see that Weird yeah, that got that got lost in the shuffle

Yeah, the manipulation of time and space see if you can find it Jamie because it's really kooky. It's really kooky Can you I don't know what he was saying. Play it. Play it so we can hear him say it. I don't think anybody said it. It was written on a website. But didn't he say it in that speech? I don't know. I don't know what that speech was. No, no. It's the guy above you right there. I know. I'm just...

This isn't going to play that. You don't think so? No. Just going to play an ad first. Okay. Let the ad play out. I'm pretty sure Secret CIA files claim the Ark of the Covenant has been found what there's a lot going on that next There's certainly a lot going on. It's a big week Regulatory regime in the 1970s became an ever tightening ratchet

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Cause things to grow and improve productivity. Okay, that's not what I say Well, you know, I think is anyone does that make me manipulate time and space is I don't think that's what he's saying No, I think he's saying like he that you're able to do things Instantaneously instantaneous. Yeah Instantaneously. Yeah. Yeah, instantly. Yeah, I don't think he... I think people have read into that too much. Yeah, I don't think he's time machines.

No, but I... Do you believe that time machines had ever, at any point, worked? No. Yeah. No, I do not. I do not think that anyone is currently in possession of a time machine, but I do think they're in possession of some sort of a gravity drive. Now, what is a gravity drive?

I think during the 1940s, they started working on this stuff. During the 1950s, there was papers written about it that they were working on gravity propulsion systems. They were working on something that harnesses, what do they call it, background energy? I forget what it, but the idea is, and I actually had a conversation with Hal Puthoff about this.

He was a legitimate scientist who worked for NASA with the UFO program. And he believes that they're capable of developing some sort of a warp drive. And there was something written about this, there's some breakthrough about warp drives recently, right? We talked about this. I think they have something.

I think they have something, I think that's what a lot of these people are seeing when they're seeing these transmedium crafts that are going through the air at high rates of speed going into the water not losing any speed coming out of the water Not making any splashes. I think it creates a Gravity distortion around whatever these things are that allows it to move in a way That's very different than any other propulsion system that we are currently aware of And I think the government has been probably secretly working on this stuff for decades.

That's what I think. I could 100% be wrong. It's all aliens. But that's the DARPA angle of like having a really, yeah, really underground, you know, weapons system, futuristic technologies. Yeah, and space travel system. And space travel system.

And ideally they would be able to use this to mine asteroids, have something instantaneously port to an asteroid, scoop up rare earth minerals and expensive things that they need on earth, shoot it back to earth. Right. Yeah. So it's interesting.

The people that work in that type of arena are just so many layers above top secret, levels above top secret. Exactly. They barely exist. This guy was telling me that in 2015, they had landed something on an asteroid, extracted something from that asteroid,

and then had that thing leave the asteroid and return to Earth, and then pinpointed the location where it was going to crash land or land rather within one mile and that somehow or another they figured this out a decade ago and that we we don't know about it but they have there's footage of this stuff and that they've been able to achieve this and that there's what you hear and what you see on television and what they're actually capable of and because of national security interests because you know fill in the blank misallocation

of funds in order to acquire this technology which is 100% what they're all talking about. Right. Jamie and I that what is that documentary we saw? Oh shit. It's not released yet because it was a South by Southwest. We saw South by Southwest, this documentary that's all about that subject. It's all about how there's a lot of issues because these people have all misappropriated funds so they've lied to Congress.

And then on top of that, if you do have this sort of a program and it is based on back engineering UFOs that have crashed, though, who gets that? Well, it's probably a weapons manufacturing company. So if it's a weapons manufacturing company, which company gets access to that? And the other ones could probably sue you because why did not that's a huge competitive advantage to have fucking alien technology that you can do these things not land in China age of disclosure is the unprecedented and revelatory

Documentary featuring 34 senior members of the US government military and intelligence community reveals that an 80 year old cover-up the existence of non-human Intelligent life and a secret war amongst major nations to reverse engineer technology of non-human origin See, I don't even know if that part is true. Yeah. I don't know. Who is the most credible person that you've had on the show over the years who has talked the most convincingly?

Was it Babelzar about? Babelzar is one of them, but he's, you know, technically speaking, you could kind of discredit a lot of the stuff that he said Jacques Vallee is probably the most reasonable and he's the guy that they patterned that French scientists and close encounters of the third con on and he's studying this from the six since the 60s true believer Yeah, he believes he thinks most of its bullshit though He thinks most of it is people misunderstanding what they're looking at people seeing, you know

Some sort of a test vehicle. Does he have any theory on where these crafts are coming from, or is that just completely beyond the scope of what he... They do theorize. They theorize that these things have always been here and that they're probably interdimensional travelers, that it's not as simple as they're coming from another planet. They might be coming from another planet.

They might be coming from a whole nother reality. And then they might have shaped our reality. This might be a farm. This might be a giant ant farm. Really? This might be also how intelligent life gets sort of seeded throughout the universe. And this would also explain why we're so different

from every other animal on this planet. Right. It's not like there's a competition. And this would also explain why we're so different from every other animal on this planet, right? We're so it's so it's not like there's a competition where we're to advance We're eons ahead and yet we carry the same we didn't evolve socially the way we evolve technology Technologically, we we we still have tribal notions and we're still territorial. We still act like animals so they know what always weirded me out or interested me. It's like the aliens They're still there there if you believe any of these things are testing us all the time and and and And is that because they're curious is that because they're there they don't know Well, they probably just gotta keep track. Okay, what's going on with people?

I mean you do that if you're collecting samples of bugs in other countries, right? They go there and they they do what what we would do I mean if you're if you're from another planet and you want to visit humans We talked about this yesterday like if you could find a planet where cave people were wouldn't you go? Oh, yeah They're just starting to figure out how to make stone spear tips. Of course people would go. It is interesting thinking about the planet as a farm. Yeah.

Yeah. That's one of the things that Bob Lazar said, there was a big folder that he found when he was working Area 51, Site 4, where supposedly they were back engineering that thing. He said they had a large folder that was just on religion. And he said, essentially they viewed us as containers, that human beings were containers and that religion and all these things were created in order to

protect the container and that the way to keep people from doing things that are ethical, unethical, and immoral, and horrendous is to try to instill as much religious ethical structure as possible and a Container, what are we carrying? That's important. Is it DNA? Is it the cell? Well, you could say the soul right? Okay container of souls But if you wanted to be more cynical you would say well what creates artificial life a human's curiosity and innovation the lust for innovation and also?

Materialism because if you're keeping up with the Joneses you want newer and better stuff all the time so that fuels Economic growth that fuels technological growth because you want the newest stuff like these TVs They don't need to make a better TV than that. It looks great. You can watch Super Bowl looks crystal clear Why are they making better TVs every year? Well, because we demand them I want the better one by my computer has the same chip as last year. Fuck out of here I want the new one and everybody wants the new phone. There's no reason to get a new phone anymore No, they all do the same thing. I have a iPhone 11 one of my phones is an iPhone 11 I've purposely not switched it just to see what it's like to use an iPhone 11.

See if I notice anything different. I notice nothing different. Nothing. Yeah. Zero. Especially when it's on Wi-Fi. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. YouTube looks the same on it. Everything's the same on it.

Yeah. It doesn't get as bright as the new ones. That's it. The new ones have more nits. Did Jacques Vallee or any of these people ever speculate about, is there an end game? If a planet's a farm, is there an end game? If a planet's a farm, is there an end game? Eventually, for example, if we're running experiments on anything, eventually we go, okay, we got it. We either figured it out or we end the experiment

or COVID leaks, but at a certain point, has there been any theorizing as to like, what the end game is or is it just a curiosity for them? I think the end game is artificial intelligence. Right. Because that's what we're really making. The one big thing that's gonna change the world way more than any other technology

is artificial intelligence. Right. Especially when it's attached to quantum computing. So if you have human beings that are constantly searching, constantly traveling, looking to their roamers, they want new resources, new things, they want new innovation, and all these new innovations have allowed them to succeed over their rivals, and then they continue this trend technologically, and then they acquire great wealth and power and all these things.

Well, what are they doing? They're making better technology. Well, ultimately, what does that mean? Ultimately means they make a better life for them. And maybe that's what we do. Maybe we're just making a cocoon. We're just here trying to make the best version of AI. Right, and that's probably what the whole universe

is filled with. All biological life eventually probably gets to a point where if it's intelligent enough it starts making synthetic life. And then once you have synthetic life what then becomes the point? That's a good question. Synthetic life might be God. That might be how the universe got made in the first place. It might be what came first the chicken or the egg. So once we get there It's not even we anymore. It's right once it is born and once it has is that a way for God to keep replicating itself? Oh my I mean it might be how Jesus comes back You know like this this a lot of these stories these biblical stories you have to say like what what were they saying?

What were they have to say like, what were they saying? What were they trying to say? Like, what was the real event that they were recording? If they passed these stories down, they're so significant, for thousands of years, like over a thousand years of just oral history, and then thousands of years of written language, like, what are they trying to say? You know? And what is this omnipotent force that controls everything in the universe and that it wants us to follow certain rules and obey and it wants us to love it and cherish it? And if you do, you genuinely seem to have a better life. Like people that legitimately follow Christianity, they seem legitimately happier. So it gives you an incentive to follow it,

and then you continue to keep society rolling to the point where this happens. And I think it happens inside of our lifetime, I'm sure of it, if we don't blow ourselves up. And then we get to this point, and my- Now we're irrelevant. Yeah, and then my- it's interesting, I totally get it, but then once we get to the point of irrelevance and now we have AI that becomes God then what does God do? Turns us into dodo birds. We're gone. We're out. Yeah, I think we stopped breeding anyway It's probably they don't have to destroy us

Our endocrine systems are all getting destroyed slowly. We're well well aware of that. So because of technology We were able to invent plastics because of plastics, plastics are slowly destroying our endocrine system because of the ubiquitous use of vaccines and all these aluminums and mercuries and heavy metals and then herbicides and pesticides and pollutants. Our bodies are getting slowly and slowly weakened and our endocrine systems are getting less and less viable. There's more miscarriages than ever. There's less people are giving birth than ever.

Sperm counts are lower than ever. It's like moving and then we're all obsessed with changing genders, right? So we're all obsessed with being non-binary and this and that. And we're slowly moving away from biological imperative breeding, right? And then you have in vitro fertilization, and then you have artificial wombs, and then you have life that they're creating literally in a laboratory, unique forms of life. And then you have artificial intelligence to be able to do that whenever it wants to.

And then you're going to get to the point where when it becomes viable human beings have already entered into population collapse and then you bring the robot sex dolls and Then you know you just jerk them off while they have VR headsets on and no more kids And then AI eventually says fuck it. Let's get rid of these containers. They don't have to get rid of them They don't even have to get rid of them. They just exist. We'll just die out full power So then you have these AI Will machines will be like those fucking people in the Amazon that are shooting bows and arrows and helicopters All these AI machines just running the entire world. Yes Interesting. Yeah, I don't think there's any way to stop it and then we're just running around for sure

That's what China's preparing for Yeah, yeah for sure and you know, they're they're developing Factories that are bigger than San Francisco. See that they have an EV factory. That's larger than San Francisco Who's gonna drive the EVs they are people for a little bit. Yeah for a little bit, but it's also to fuel consumerism, Of course. Which fuels innovation, which fuels the- Everything. Yeah, the birth of this thing.

And this is what, and this is what a lot of these people that have looked into this have theorized that this is. So it's funny, because it is just a parallel reality that we're not plugged into. It's also, I always say this, if you were from another planet and you looked at us, like what is this one apex species doing what's making better stuff right the number one thing it does

above everything above war and murder and yeah all the crime the number one thing it does is make better stuff that's what it produces constantly consistently better stuff never happy with what it has and it does it at a staggering rate. Where it's like, it's even a question that your phone from a few years, my iPhone 11 from a few years back is like, is that still good? Like it's a question. Right.

Whether or not so. For five years, that's crazy. If you have a gun from five years ago, it's perfect. There's nothing wrong. You don't need a new gun. Right. It's the same technology. Imagine a factory larger than San Francisco.

It's happening in China's BYD's Zheng Xiao branch, which will be 10 times larger than Tesla's Gigafactory in Nevada. Crazy stuff, dude. It's crazy. It's going to be a factory that's bigger than it's a really interesting time to be alive. It's great, you know, but, you know, I don't think anybody knows what the final chapter of this book is going to be. I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody knows what the final chapter of this book is going to be.

I don't think anybody. I don't think these people that are like accelerating towards this technological supremacy. And all the people that are theorizing, they're theorizing. And then do we get visited when that happens? When AI becomes sentient and our job is done, do we then get visited by the Galactic Empire? I would hate if it all came down at just AI doing stand-up comedy. If they all just decide to do stand-up comedy.

What if AI decided to do podcasts and it's just a bunch of hyper fucking, brilliant machines talking to each other. Maybe that's the way the world just ends with like artificial intelligence just blabbing. I don't think the world ends. I think we end right I think that would be a terrifying thought to Australia Pythagoras If you told Australia Pythagoras like one day you're gonna be in a self-driving Tesla, and you're not gonna need your Spears. Oh What right you'd be terrified, but how am I gonna get the buffalo? Yeah, like how am I gonna eat?

How am I gonna ride my children raw meat? You know you is like no no you guys gonna have fire You're gonna be able to turn on a switch instead of like rubbing sticks together for half an hour You're just gonna be able to turn on a switch and fire is gonna be instantly you're gonna have this thing in your hand Look at this. Yeah Imagine if I brought this to a cave person check it out, bro. You need a fire crazy. I'm your huckleberry. It's crazy That's technology right, you know, you show a cell phone someone from the 14th century, they they burn you at the stake.

You're a wizard, right? Yeah. And it's all moving in this very weird direction that no one can predict because it's exponential because it's so staggering how much technological innovation they have. Just with quantum computing, like I've got someone coming on soon that's gonna supposedly explain that to me, but like what are you even saying? It's operating in the multiverse and it's accessing infinite universes.

Who explains that type of stuff? Like is it a scientist? You have to get someone who's actually working in the field. Because even a regular scientist, they're just gonna give you theoretical shit. You gotta get someone who's actually working on quantum computing systems and can explain how it works and why it's able to crack calculations that would take... Mark Andreessen said it best. This has already happened. They have taken calculations that if you turn the entire universe,

every atom in the universe into a supercomputer, the universe would die of heat death before it could solve this equation and these quantum computers that already exist that we've already done can solve it in a matter of minutes. They don't know how it's doing that and so they think it's doing that by accessing the multiverse they think it's proof of the multiverse but again this's proof of the multiverse, but again. This is just like The sound of gay guys falling off a roof. It's like so far away. Yeah, it's so weird It's like is that really happening right right like what's going on over there? What are they doing over there? It's almost like it's it's almost

It's almost abstract like what you hear someone say that they can solve currently solve equations that like was that real? Right when this like it to you and I it's like we don't understand the technology at all We don't understand all the steps that have been Put place that all the work that's been done to get the technology at this point these chips are like the size of this fucking Mint-tin yeah, that's how big they are. And then they're surrounded by these super cooling units. Right. And that's like, it has to be cool

that these insane temperatures, cooler than deep space in order for it to even function. It's unreal. It's fucking nuts, dude. That's crazy. And that's real and that's happening right now. So God only knows what's coming. Yeah, they're already building nuclear reactors

just to power AI plants. Right. Multiple nuclear reactors just to power AI plants, because the amount of electricity that's going to be required is tremendous. Tremendous. And they're just all on this wild scramble between us and China to try to get there first.

It's such a strange thing that we know it's coming, but we can't, the pace of it is going to be. And there's no way to figure it out. Like when Wilbur and Orville Wright flew that stupid fucking shitty airplane, who would imagine that 50 years later someone would drop a nuclear bomb out of one of those right if they didn't have jets back then they're propeller planes right the no Enola Gay was not a propeller plane yeah dropping the most sophisticated of weapons yeah no one no one knows what's going to happen when a new invention happens

and then everyone builds on that invention. No one would have ever imagined hypersonic jets back when they Wilbur and Orville were floating around that stupid fucking wooden thing right invented right. And so no one no one understands like what is what's the 50 year quantum computing thing? If it's 50 years from making the airplane to dropping a bomb out of it How many years is it from quantum computer thing to God? How many years is it until you this thing starts making better versions of itself to the point where it literally can manipulate? Everything in the universe at will it can create new universes It's it's unbelievable to think about it's almost beyond the grasp of our mind to consider.

It is. It is, fully. And it's terrifying. Think of those stupid cars that people used to drive around in, 1823, or what's that? Of course. Of course. Drive around those stupid cars, and now they

have electric cars like a Tesla that can go 0 to 60 in under two seconds. Nobody saw any of this shit come way most and we saw way most when they saw Model t but yet they're all here right and no one knows where this is going. It's all just Speculation and guessing and I would imagine that even the most Creative minds are not gonna be able to see where this is going. No creative minds are not gonna be able to see where this is going. No. It's insane.

And we're living through it. And most people, unlike you and I, that have to talk about shit constantly, most people probably aren't even paying attention. Yeah. No, why would you? Why would you? It's almost pointless. Yeah.

Why would you? You gotta work and you gotta, your kid needs hormone therapy of thousand percent So it's like we create AI AI creates quantum computing Quantum computing creates God God creates the Jews It's all the rub it's all real wild and in the middle We're you know fighting over stupid shit like who believes in this religion who believes in that religion? Sunni's in the sheen People are watching love on the spectrum, which is why we're number eight on

Netflix's top ten and we should be higher, but they're watching love on the spectrum which I get it's a feel-good show Well, hopefully after this podcast, it's very sweet And you filmed the special and the mothership and everybody loves it and it's great. I mean, a lot of people love it. Most people love it. Of course, there's, you know, enough of this flat fat blowhard comments, but most the vast majority of people enjoy it, which is important. And the show and the you saved it. We know you saved it. Well, the first one was very bad. The producers are making this horrible mistakes that they always make.

They want to light up the room. And they want to do things very differently than a normal show. But that looks just like a regular show. That's a comedy show. I don't know what the hell they were doing with the lights. They always do it. They try to do it with me when I first started doing specials. They want to light the room up and it just makes everybody uncomfortable. They all feel self-conscious.

They all know it's different. There's a reason why comedy clubs are dark. It's super funny to do a show. I've done so many, so many shows there and they're all really, really, really good. And then you get the cameras and everything. And then the first one I go, what the fuck is happening? It would be one thing if I was in like Portland, Maine at like a liberal college right I'd go okay well maybe these kids don't like me or something

and I think maybe it was still good it was just tense it was tense you could feel that people were well aware that you were filming and they were like not in it yeah we're watching it and then thank God they listened to me No, I mean come on. It's like right away. I was like okay. Who's running this yeah get these fucking lights off all the tables We saved there all these lights on the side kill those yeah, let me see it now No, save too bright kill that why is that light there kill that kill all these lights? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Thank God Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. But look, it's important people need I appreciate it and get good luck people need shit talk. Stop with this love on the spectrum. We get it

Yeah, they're happy. I'm they should be but our RFK is gonna what did you want to call that? They wouldn't let you my son's pussy. Yeah I don't understand why they said no to that you got there was negative feedback You're gonna get negative feedback. They also didn't know about the Kevin Spacey promo until the day it came out I think my son's pussy would have made it number one I think my son's pussy would have been a great move it would have been number one out of the next day out of the gate Oh, I'm clicking on that's right. What is he say that's right fuck you lonesome Canyon soap opera they got

Netflix has almost too much content. I think I'm right. I love Netflix Don't get me wrong, and I think the UFC might be going to Netflix soon Wild wild wild yeah because Netflix is international. It's everywhere. It's everything yeah I was on I was in Italy on vacation, and I tried to access a UFC fight through my ESPN app, but it said not available in this area. I was like, what are these people watching that? Can't even watch the fights?

No, I mean, they've won the stream. Whatever the streaming war was, they won. They won. They won. They did it. They did it. YouTube as well. Well, YouTube's number one globally is the biggest media company. Yeah, and the UFC probably talked to YouTube as well.

I just think there's a thing about the subscription model versus free and, you know, ads and generating income. I mean, there's a, you're talking about billion dollar corporations. Yeah. It's not that simple. For sure. For sure. But no, they were super cool. They didn't give any notes. And that's awesome. Great. No, that's all you want. Netflix is fucking great. They're the best. And I think they learned a big lesson during the wokeness era. Like when things got dark, and there was the Inquisition, it got real weird. And they were

putting on a lot of stuff that was just hot garbage, because they thought that this was like what culture wanted in society wanted. But the numbers didn't work. And then they did the Tom Brady roast and the numbers were the highest that they've ever had of any show ever on Netflix. Yeah. And I go, okay, we get it. We get it. We get it. And then they did a lot of the live comedy shows where they couldn't control it. And I did mine live. Yeah. That was, they got buck wild. And they defend Chappelle and all these things. And you know, they understand comedy they like intense randos a fan of it. See ya So I think that's good

I think that's a really good thing that you have a platform that has that much power and and accessibility fucking great No, he's awesome. I think that there's people that really understand that it's you need to have funny jokes You need you need to have people things that people don't love and things that people like and give people give people the mega Markle show give them my dumb thing let people yes choose let put me in mega Markle anything make us work together Yeah, fund it now put me in a kitchen. I'm this is camping This is the direction you to this is a to put her on kill, Tony This is the direction you to a collision. What are those little silver? Things called the

people trailers I don't know but I think we should go to space have Bezos to it airstreamers yeah you and her or even better put me we're gonna space yeah me and her how that's only 11 minutes oh that's all that's gonna work I want to see your speech when you come back and land how profoundly changed you were. Did you grow? Did you heal? Yeah, no, not at all. You said that space was going to help you heal.

I'm worse. Everybody wants to heal. Isn't that wild? I know. It's so silly. What are you healing from exactly? Being rich. What's your disease?

Extreme wealth. These people wading across the Rio Grande with a butthole full of Feltinol. That's right. They found some lady the other day that had, she had heroin and cocaine and fentanyl stuffed in all of her body cavities. They caught her coming through. And like that lady's not trying to heal. No, I mean, God. She's trying to make $13. That's tough. Heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl in all of these.

She had an inner anus and her vagina. In all of your body cavities. Like tightly wrapped. Here they are, little eggs. Here it says, what does it say at the top? CBP officer intercept woman transporting drugs in multiple internal cavities. That's so funny, dude. 33 years old.

The drugs are hidden in the rectum and vagina of a 33-year-old female U.S. citizen pedestrian border crosser. The Somalia Gunna case was not an isolated incident. Over the weekend, CBP officers working at PDN and Yosetla crossing stopped a total of nine internal carriers who were transporting fentanyl and methamphetamine from Mexico to the U.S. Internal carriers is a fun way to talk about it. It's like uterus holders. Well hey, what did you say what they called us? Containers?

Yeah. I mean she's doing it. She's doing it. Wow, exceptionally dangerous practice. And anyone thinking about smuggling drugs inside their body or at all should strongly reconsider their choices. Oh, you think these people have choices? These people are dying.

They're starving to death. They have no future. Strongly reconsider their choices. They just need better counseling. That's right. That's all it is. That's right. And they need to heal.

They need to get into space. Well, show that woman. They need to take that lady and start putting her in jail. Yeah. Maybe throw her in space real quick. Show that woman Katy Perry. Her and Amy Schumer up in the fucking satellite.

Yeah, everyone should go up. I'll do it. Me, Amy Schumer, and Meghan Markle in space. Show that woman Katy Perry. Her and Amy Schumer up in the fucking satellite. Yeah, everyone should go up. I'll do it. Me, Amy Schumer, and Meghan Markle in space. That's a show. It's an 11 minute show. What about Meghan McCain? Would you do it with her? I would absolutely do it.

All of us. All of us together. You know, why not? I'd watch that. Of course. I'd watch that. And if they called it My Son's Pussy, then justice would be served.

Absolutely. Do you do a big Easter thing? What do you mean? Just I don't know. Is it a big you do like eggs? Oh my family? Yeah. No.

Well kids are in high school now. It's really different. Yeah right. Right. They're not dying eggs. Unless there's money in those plastic eggs. Yeah that's a good point. Nobody cares anymore.

Yeah yeah yeah they want money in the eggs. There's candy in the house. Yeah I remember that's the thing when you get older it's just money in there. It's just money. Well once the kids realize that there's no magic person that's delivering then it's all bullshit Just give me money in the egg. It's like oh, it's my parents because otherwise they would say that's weird That's Santa so much nicer to me than he is those poor people of course. I guess I'm chosen of Course that's a weird thing to say to kids. Yeah, like yeah, you got everything on the list But that kid that gets bused in from the bad neighborhoods. You got nothing. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point

Hmm, but you know kids go Santa's fickle Santa likes what he likes. He likes the suburbs Santa likes Landing his sled in the burbs. He does he feels better about it. It feels really good visiting rich people Yeah, and he doesn't even talk to the Jews No, he's not he knows weird. He knows he does his thing, but you know if they're the chosen people Why don't they get Santa Claus visits? Well? They have they have they have other things yeah But there are other thing like they weren't it wasn't really supposed to be a bunch of gifts until

The Christians started getting all the Santa Claus gifts and the Jewish kids are going what the fuck is going on And some of them cheat some of them do a little Christmas to. Some of them have a tree. Some of them do a little Christmas Absolutely. Yeah, some of them do a little Christmas. Hopefully they do this piece. It's fun. This piece in the Middle East. Hopefully They keep talking about all this, you know, these deals They're all making hopefully that the Hamas and the Israel whatever it is they get you know, because Well, that's one thing that Trump said if I get in there 24 hours the war's over. Yeah, that's a tough one that the Hamas and the Israel whatever it is they get you know because well that's one thing that Trump said if I get in there 24 hours the war's over. Yeah that's a tough one 24 is tough that's obviously but I hopefully they figure it out because it is it's

unfortunate. Yeah it's fucking crazy. The human toll is unreal. Unreal. And you know it's crazy. Some lady just died she was the protagonist in some documentary, and she just got blown up. There is an argument to be made that that level of devastation and death is worse than you talking to someone on your podcast. Allegedly. There is an argument to be made. It's probably not a good one.

The amount of damage you can do with just talking. There is an argument to be made that starvation and stuff like that and people dying is worse than a podcast. But wait a minute. I wouldn't make it. Wait a minute before you say that. Have you been there? Right, that's a good point.

Have you even, you haven't been? By the way, how is he in all these war, can I just go to wars? By the way, how are you allowed all these war can I just go to wars by the way how are you let are you allowed to just go to wars is that you should just go to what to see of going can I just go to wars or do I have to come back and say what people want me to say about the war can I go to the wars and have my own opinions or do I have to have the opinions not if you want to go back that's right that's right it's very interesting this war tourism or do I have to have the opinions? Not if you want to go back. That's right. That's right. It's very interesting this war tourism. How do I get on this war tourism? Yeah. I'd like to go to the Ukraine. I want to go. I want to go. I want to go to all this

war tourism. Do you have any awards that they can melt down and make bullets out of? Joe, think about this. Do I seem like a guy that has a lot of awards? Didn't you get one of those YouTube plaques when you hit 100,000 subscribers? I don't even know where they send it. I don't know where they're sending those YouTube plaques. We've got a few of those. But I like this idea of more tourism. I like the idea of going to a war and then coming back having a very black and white view.

Yes, I've been there. I get it and I know, and interesting. Okay, I like that. I like that. I love that. You feel better than the other people. Well, of course, there's a lot of people, it gets very murky.

Most people I know that have been to war have a very murky, complex view of things. But it is good to go to a war and then come back and be as sure as you were before you came. And you don't have to go for very long. No, you go for an hour. Couple hours. It's a lunch.

Yeah. It's lunch on the front line. Put on a flak jacket that says press. Tea on the front lines, and then you come back, and you have all the talk. Yeah. And if you're on the right side, you probably don't get shot. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Well, there doesn't seem to be a ton of danger for a lot of these people going to these wars. They seem fine. If you cross that line, and you have a bucket of food with you, they might let you up. Yeah. No, I'm going to go. I'll go to any war and I'll anything you want. So if you want to, if you want to pay for me to go to a war, I will come back and I go, I saw the

Houthis there. Terrifying. They are terrifying anywhere you want. And by the way, any country, if China wants me to, you know, I'm, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Will you go to Moscow? I would love to go to Moscow. And I said to my friend, Anna Hoshin from the Red Scare podcast, I said, should I go to Russia? She goes, you're spiritually Russian and maybe you won't leave.

She says, the oligarch lifestyle might be for you. There's sweatsuits. There's sweat suits. Yeah. With flip flops. The smoked fish. She goes, it might, smoking a cigarette on a yacht. She goes, it might be for you.

Listing the people's moral justifications for all kinds of things. You know, going, well, I get it. I see a point, I get it. Yeah. I mean, what else are you gonna do? Yeah. For sure.

Yeah. What happened I mean, what else are you going to do? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What happened to those? All those yachts that got confiscated? I don't know. It's a great question. I bet I'd probably it's some high level version of like a police auto auction, right? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's what I'm thinking. Exactly. Like if maybe those are the ones you sail to the war. Yeah. When they raid drug dealers houses and they get those Maseratis,

you could buy that Maserati online. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what those yachts are. It's a great it's a great question. What happens to those yachts? You know, because very luxurious. That was the first problem I had. Obviously. It's a tragedy.

The whole Ukraine war. But I thought, frankly, going around and taking these oligarchs boats, I was against that. What's weird? You work hard for a boat like that. Also, how do you know how much they had involved in the Russian governments to say? They probably had enough.

A lot of them had nothing to do. They just earn money in Russia and they were like, all right, we're going to sanction everybody. We're going to confiscate everything. And it's like, okay. But do you think that it was done so that they could make some sort of a rebellion amongst the oligarchs against Putin, like show them that they're getting hurt?

It could be, I think that there was a decision made at some point to not try to end this. I don't think they wanted to end this quickly There was a decision made to bleed the Russian military and isolate Russia and in and try to Use this as a way to drain the power and resources of Russia and you think that by capturing these yachts It creates like internal internal turmoil not only internal turmoil, but you're now limiting the ability of these incredibly wealthy people to earn money in countries. You're destroying economic realities that,

and then you're saying to these people, okay, go figure it out. It's what we said to Russia, but they did, right? They got closer to China. They got closer to Brazil. They traded with India. You know, they started an industrial economy. They started producing their own, you know, munitions and things like that.

So they were able to kind of start to weirdly build out this middle class. This was the worst. I think it's the worst thing. If you don't want a country to keep invading other countries, you certainly wouldn't put them in the position to be stronger while they were doing it. Yeah, it's all very weird too, with like the killing of that pipeline.

Yeah. Like aren't more people reliant now on Russian energy because of that? All of this seems to have had the opposite effect. Yeah. All of it seems to have had the opposite effect Yeah, all of it seems to have had the opposite Opposite from intended effect. Oh, it seems it's just crazy that it's going on so long I was reading this thing about the amount of money foreign countries that have captured these yachts have to pay to maintain them Why do they have to maintain them?

Well, cuz if you let it go then you can't sell it and you can't use it You can't use that money, right? So they're definitely selling them That's what one of them says that the money for one would have gone to Ukraine right here. Okay seizure You get deals as washed in ramped up sanction enforcement against people close to the Russian president Pressure Moscow to halt its war against Ukraine Yeah So how many more this one got sanctioned because the guy apparently paid a million dollars to keep it maintained and they caught him for doing that. So now he lost his boat.

I mean, this is insane. Jesus Christ. We should give them... He violated US sanctions by making more than $1 million in maintenance payments. We should have a day where if the Russian-Ukraine wars ended, we give all the oligarchs back their boats and they do like a regatta, like a thing where they all, with their boats down in Florida or Palm Beach, they all just are reunited with their boats.

Look at this, seized yacht. It cost $7 million a year to maintain. That one was being held in Fiji, so the US took it over because Fiji couldn't afford to take care of it. It's a money pit. How much can you get it for right now? Well? That's the question 300 million. That's tough listen That's a tough one. Maybe this YouTube thing really takes off

It said it's been excessive justifying an auction They also said talks to have how do you say his name? Kudainet off pay for the yachts upkeep have broken down Prosecuting yeah, why would he pay for the upkeep when you're gonna fucking steal it from him? Anyway prosecutors say in previous court filings that Kudina nauf Kudina Tauf is acting as the Almeida's straw owner to disguise Kermanov's role and that maintenance payments are

essential to pervert preserving a yacht's value. Me and Sam Talent walked around Monica. We were performing in the UK and we took a little break to go down to France for two days. And we're walking around Monica and we said to the guy there's all these yachts in Monica. We said, There's all these yachts in Monica. We said Who owns these yachts and he goes well He goes if you look up Online the names of these yachts you can trace them back to Businesses and you trace that business back to a person and I said so that person owns the idea goes

He goes there there's absolutely goes, good luck with that. Yeah, it's a shell. He goes, it's very hard to find out who owns the yachts. And he goes, even if you think you know, you may not know, or it might be more complicated than you think. There it is, there's Monaco. Wow. They like a super yacht. I mean, it's just such an interesting,

just a haven of international crime. So how many people have that kind of money? Just something fun about it. That's what's crazy. It's like these are all $300 million houses that are on wheels. This is a haven of... On the water. Yeah, this is a haven of international criminality.

And look how close they park to each other. Just we... No income tax, no property tax. Yeah. Fun. Yeah, Monaco's fascinating. The amount of wealth that I saw when I was there is crazy the amount of like expensive cars They were everywhere and people were just driving them around like it was a car show

Like yeah, everyone all the street was Ferraris and Lamborghini's and G wagons son real s classes It's everywhere. You look there's bentleys. Well, those are the people we're talking about Those are the people who are like we're living here Yeah, and you ain't yeah, and you'll deal with it and it's a small spot, too Well, they like it like that. Yeah, they keep it nice like that Yeah, yeah, you got a tap on the window if you want to go in the store That might be where I do my podcast from eventually you might have to just go to Monica Maybe the only place I just play where it doesn't get censored

Just play and just live on a tiny boat like a tugboat. The end is not good. It would have been really rough if Kamala won. They would have clamped down on you and me and everybody like us, I think. It would have been a fun jail though. It would have been our own El Salvador in jail. I don't think they would have put us together. But all the tech people would have magically became Democrats again. You can just see a couple of these are just gigantic Yeah, yeah, yeah, look at this by the way, you know, what's funny the the the regular ones are also massively big They're huge, but the other ones are really jealous of the guy with the whole big war. That's it's crazy

They're all Keeping up with the Joneses and they're all fueling AI to take over Yeah keeping up with the Joneses and they're all fueling AI to take over. Yeah. Well, I think we figured it all out. We did. I appreciate you always having me here to figure it out. I appreciate you always being here. Of course. Anytime. Thank you, brother. My pleasure. I'm your mother. On Netflix. On Netflix right now. It's awesome. You're the best. Thank you. Appreciate you very much. Bye, everybody.