The Joe Rogan Experience - #2309 - Joey Diaz

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Joey Diaz is a standup comic, actor, and author. He's the host of "The Church of What's Happening Now," and the author of "Tremendous: The Life of a Comedy Savage." www.youtube.com/@JoeyDiaz www.joeyd...iaz.net 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan! Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at ziprecruiter.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Let's fucking go. Let's go. Joey Diaz, ladies and gentlemen. What's up, beautiful? It's good to see you, my brother. Good to see you.
Starting point is 00:00:19 That was great. The club was fucking in rare form last night. Oh, last night it was packed. It's been packed all week It's been really fun a lot of fun shows, you know James a last night or the night before last, you know, you're there tonight. It's been amazing He calls man is on fire. He's crazy. Holtsman's on fire last night. He was on a fire Me and Adam you get we're howling we were watching him from the balcony and howling
Starting point is 00:00:46 Such a good community Joey. It's so nice on here. So it's most interdicted for breakfast. It's the best like we just look for each other He's like, what are you doing here? And we sat down Me and Duncan are gonna corner you and try to get you to move here. No, we're gonna we're gonna figure that Yeah, you got you got you belong here. Every time I come down here I see something else that like I had a great time last night Joe DeRosa's here now, too That's what I heard. Yeah, he just moved here. Is he gonna bring the sandwich shop? Yes. He is We're gonna open up a sandwich shop out here. He is rather. That's a good fuck I say we because I'm gonna be eating. Yeah, he makes a very good sandwich very good sandwich
Starting point is 00:01:19 Yeah, he brought a bunch of them. What did he do? Was it Moon Tower last year that he brought him? It might have been it was Moon Tower or South by Southwest. One of the two last year. He brought like a ton of sandwiches. He had a pop-up. So his restaurant did a pop-up somewhere in Austin. I was like, bro, you got to open this up here. You'd be killing it. Especially if it's you. Yeah. And people know it's your business. Because I've heard somebody else was telling me about the sandwiches. Very legit. I gotta go up there. Very legit.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I just don't even know where it is. I don't know if it's in Brooklyn. I want to kidnap my man Giovanni in White Plains, bring him out here. He can't survive outside of Italian neighborhoods though. That guy's the most Italian guy that's ever lived. And you know, they get their stuff up there. Yeah, they get everything. And it's all coming in right from Italy, you know Because a lot of it's imported they use a lot of imported stuff imported mortadella imported
Starting point is 00:02:09 The peppers all that stuff that they have, you know, sun-dried peppers sun-dried tomatoes. They import all that shit Yeah, they got to get that shit, you know Then it because if it goes there then it's got a ship from the boat all the way to Texas It's a little bit of a pain remember fucking greasy greasy Tony He used to drive once a month to New Jersey greasy and get coke. I've seen for chicken Poor greasy Tony we used to visit him every time we went to Tempe He was our guy remember you said not to drink his Mountain Dew because he made himself Two days he used to make that was the strongest mountain fucking do you could ever taste in your life you up a darker day? Greasy Tony
Starting point is 00:02:48 Was such a character. He was such a character and he became our friend Yeah, you know when we first started going there we were visiting for like ten fucking years You know every time we would do shows in town to go visit greasy Tony He had a $20 chicken cutlet sandwich. Phenomenal. 15 years ago, which weighed, like I was 400 pounds and I would bring it home and try to finish it. Do you remember that steak sub that he would make? What did you call it, trash can?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yes, that's right, the trash can. The trash can, it was crazy. Peppers and onions and cheese and fucking, everything was in that thing it was crazy you know what's really like that thick when i drove in yesterday i'm like this is how things change i mean we've been coming here since 95 i know i know right yeah i think 99 yeah first i would do houston and drive down here and do the lobby in the fucking cap city when they had oh, yeah? Remember that drive
Starting point is 00:03:51 Down here not having any money having to drive back because we couldn't get a hotel room drive back to Houston at the end of the night and I was looking at this yesterday like when I landed was four o'clock traffic and I'm like my god This how, we're watching how past civilizations just changed. Yes. Something happened here and everybody moved here. Yep. And I'm not talking about four or five people, everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And that's how civilizations changed. We just witnessed it after the pandemic. It's been fucking surreal. Yeah, it has been surreal. Surreal. Surreal. To see things change, yeah. You know what, it is real. It's a real to see things change. Yeah You know what? It's also there's places that sort of rest on their laurels too much and
Starting point is 00:04:37 Whenever that happens, it's easy for another place to rise up that offers something more interesting So like Los Angeles was always Los Angeles and like when Gavin Newsom talks about California is like, you know, I'm very big on California very bullish on California California has all this industry hey fuck oh they're all thinking about moving the only reason why they don't move is because it's too difficult to move if it was like every business could instantly pull up roots and replace everything and have everything running in a week at the other place, they'd all be gone. They'd all be gone. They just it's too expensive. It's too expensive to leave versus what you would save and the regulations
Starting point is 00:05:16 that you wouldn't have to go through and all the bullshit with all the permits and all that. What California does is overregulate everything Everything they get as much government involved as possible They suck as much tax money out of you as possible and then they still leave the place of mass They still have homeless people everywhere. It's still a fucking disaster It's still a woke shit show of virtue signaling at every level of the government still Like no course correction at all. They're going further and further into La La Land. And you're like, Jesus Christ, you guys. And so then a place like Austin becomes attractive, you know, because like,
Starting point is 00:05:55 it's not like that here. And people are very reasonable. And Austin, the best thing about Austin is it's a blue city in a red state. So it's like balanced. Like this is a saying they have out here, keep Austin weird and surrounded. So Austin is surrounded by rednecks with guns. And like it keeps the tone more medium. Like the Austin liberals, they're much more just left of center people like we are.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You know what I mean? Like in some parts of the country, we're considered like far right. You and I, far right. It's crazy. It's fucking ridiculous. But it's because everybody went nuts and everyone demanded a whole series of things
Starting point is 00:06:41 that you have to agree to in order to be a good person. Like fuck off. You know what the real problem is out there? demanded a whole series of things that you have to agree to in order to be a good person like Fuck off. You know, so real problem is out there. Let me tell you what the real problem I didn't realize it till I fucking left what that everybody's too busy tapping themselves on the back Every when the fires happened those three women or whatever the fuck. Yeah the chief and whatever I'm looking at them I'm like look at them. Yeah, I got gel in their hair You all got a tattoo on then that God forbid God forbid. They can't be cool for just one fucking minute God forbid and that's the problem you have out there. It's too many people. I'm so great This is my idea and it's great and it's gonna work. It's not working. You're right, but I'm too stupid
Starting point is 00:07:23 I say you know what? This ain't working. Their egos are so big, they don't have the heart to go, this ain't working. You're right. You're absolutely right. But I don't think it's entirely their fault. It is their fault. But the culture rewards that kind of behavior. This is the problem with having protected classes of people, whether it's gay, lesbian, whatever it is, whether it's your nationality. If you have a protected class of people where you're not allowed to criticize the protected class of people, then they become, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy talked about this in a very
Starting point is 00:07:59 interesting way. He was like, it's the tyranny of the underprivileged. Is that what he called it? The tyranny of the marginalized or something along those lines. But the idea is that this group of people, whether they're trans people or gay people, they get, oh, above everything. Everything you do is amazing. Oh my God, you're so fabulous. Because no one wants to be thought of as homophobic or transphobic. So you pretend that everything they do is incredible. And so you're going to be the best firefighter ever.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Can you carry a burning man out of a building? Girl, you don't have to. If he was in that building, he shouldn't have been in that building in the first place. If I have to carry him out, we got other problems. A literal firefighter said that in response to, could she carry her husband out of the building? No, you can't. And so you shouldn't be a firefighter. said that in response to could she carry her husband out of the building like no you know you can't and so you shouldn't be a firefighter just like you shouldn't be a bouncer if you can't fight you shouldn't be a firefighter you shouldn't
Starting point is 00:08:54 be a firefighter if you can't carry someone out of a bill if you can't run up a flight of stairs because you're 260 pounds and five foot seven and a woman no no you shouldn't be a firefighter. You shouldn't be in like really good shape to be a... Now, if you're some fucking CrossFit's game lady who's some beast, I'm like, yeah, that lady could be a firefighter. Yeah, but it's like, like even guys. Like if you're a guy and you're fucking scrawny
Starting point is 00:09:17 and you never work out and all you do is smoke cigarettes, maybe you shouldn't be a firefighter. You know, maybe you can't get up that fucking flight of stairs either It should be like it's a physical job where you're rescuing people you have to be able to physically carry people you have to rescue them Firefighters when I was a kid with a fucking big be brutal men beast game down doors fucking houses They looked like former football players There's this guy used to play pool with Ray the fireman because everybody in the pool hall
Starting point is 00:09:47 I was Joe the comedian everybody had a nickname based on what you did Ray the fire was a fucking house. He's just a big fucking like big Irish guy You know like of course he's a fireman look at him that guy was gonna kick down a door Carry your fucking husband throw him over his shoulder run through the flames Throw him on the lawn. he does it all the time, he's an animal. Like Vito's lover in The Sopranos, remember he was a fireman? Oh yeah, that's right. Remember he was a fireman, the gay dude?
Starting point is 00:10:15 I forgot about that scene. That he killed himself in real life. Yeah. Oh did he really? After that show? Because they thought he was gay? I don't know. I read so many.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Oh I hope it wasn't that. I hope they didn't taunt him for being gay. I don't know. I read hope it wasn't that I hope they didn't taunt him for being gay Imagine you get your shot. Hey Joey, I got good news and bad news Good news is you're gonna be on the Sopranos Bad news is you gotta fuck a guy And you got a swap spit with him. Yes, what's bit on camera? Yeah, but you're on the Sopranos. What are you gonna do? Depends on what you want to do. If you're a regular guy and that's your first acting gig, I suggest you pass.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I suggest you pass. I couldn't swap specifically. You have to be like a Jared Leto type dude to pull that off. Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound December 16th, 2008 at the age of 47. And he was a firefighter, a former firefighter. Who knows I mean when when did he die how long after the show
Starting point is 00:11:12 Go pull back up again cuz it just said So he died in 2008 so the show was running in 2008 Right, yeah was soprano still on 2008 no no was off by then I think No 2009 maybe I don't know let's find that out and then we'll have an answer But I would imagine if you're a guy an Italian guy or whatever and you go back to the neighborhood And you've been playing and the June 10th 2007 so right after right after an entity wax himself that's so unfortunate there's another beautiful thing about the comedy community like nobody gives a fuck if you're gay nobody Tim Dillon Tim Dillon just he's just one
Starting point is 00:12:02 of us it's just we're all like the lesbians that come there and hang out they're just one of us no one gives a flying fuck it's just if you're not funny nobody wants to hang out with you if you're not funny like get out of the green room you know what I mean but if you're funny who cares no one cares do you remember the kid from Houston? Which one? The guy that used to always wear football shirts. Yes, where? He passed away. That was my brother. What was his name?
Starting point is 00:12:30 God damn it. I loved him. I loved him. It's fucking escaping my mind. With the little hat on. You're gonna remember his name. And he come up to you and give you a hug all the time. I haven't seen him in so long.
Starting point is 00:12:39 When did he die? I don't know, maybe 10 years ago. Did he talk about being gay on stage? No, but he told me he was gay. Oh yeah. Well, he was gay. He would go to those army things just to fuck men. Well, he just looked like a football player. Like a big form. He looked like a Shane Gillis type dude.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah. Like a big former football player, but he was gay. He was gay. He always wore football jerseys. Always football jerseys. That's how we trick him. Sweetheart of a guy. But again, same situation, Joey. That guy was one of us. He just hung guy but again same situation Joey that guy was one of us he just hung out with us no I loved him to death he just hung out with us I loved that dude to death didn't even matter to me that he was listen that's never mattered to me you gotta remember I was a Judas Priest fan in high school that dude just gay as hell first time I saw him nobody knew
Starting point is 00:13:18 isn't that funny I fucking knew him in 79 nobody comes out with a little hat with a whip right you know I saw him at the Palladium. Oh my God. Did you ever read, you just have to try to read his book. Really? Jimmy Florentine gave it to me. You have to try to read it. Is it crazy?
Starting point is 00:13:36 I'll just tell you one story. There was a guy in Chicago, a stylist that used to tell him he wanted dick, always bust. You know those people those women come on child Come on. Yeah, you know He said finally got pissed off one day. He took the guy up in his office. He goes. I fucked him so hard I blew out of his o-ring. I had to go to the hospital I'm reading this going this is my type of fucking guy. I love this fucking guy Well, you got to think what Rob Halford did.
Starting point is 00:14:06 When he was the head of Judas Priest, he got all these straight guys to dress like they're in a gay biker gang because they wanted to be cool like Judas Priest. He changed the style of a kind of music. He really did. I loved him. How many straight guys dressed like gay bikers not even knowing what they were doing? They just thought, you know, this is how you dress for this kind of music. But it was because of Rob Alford.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Fucking Rob. And he's still out. You know, I had him on a show once. There he is, that bad motherfucker. You've got another thing coming. I had a buddy of mine in high school who loved that song. And he used like a quote of it in his in his yearbook And I've always remember thinking wow that's a coolest quote like if you think you're gonna sit around let you chip away But where my brain listen I ain't fooling and you better think again out There is a fortune waiting to be had you think I'll let it go you're mad you got another thing coming Great album great shit that kid never did anything though no he never
Starting point is 00:15:05 left the town no fell apart and here's the weirdest thing about Judas Priest what his writing that's what I fucking died about his writing because he would write and you're thinking he's writing about a woman he's right about assholes he's writing about a man and he has a song called burning up that is so fucking over the top. I know you feel the same. I know you feel the flame burning deep inside of you. Burning you up. It's called breaking you down. Breaking you out in the cold sweat. But when you lose control of your very soul your desire takes over you'll feel the heat wave you'll answer my way and suddenly you know that you're burning up that is a bad mother when I heard that I'm like let me hear that Jamie we'll have to edit this out of YouTube for the folks at home, please seek it online. Here we go. Listen to the way it starts
Starting point is 00:16:12 It's like a satellite This is back before satellites like before we had modems Whoo, this is 1980. This is on a hell-bent for leather tour. You could let songs cook back then, you know? Like Time, Pink Floyd, Time? Oh baby! Guess what just got added to the Spotify playlist? You keep me waiting So I'll play it dirty till your body is breaking We've got to make love The time is right We've got to make love tonight
Starting point is 00:17:16 Cause we're burning up You make me greedy There you go. Hot, gay love coming at you. So when I read those lyrics I'm like that's the most brilliant fucking thing that's a dark the darkest thing about gay people today is that some of them are in the closet other than homophobia is that southern there's a genuinely people that hate gays but that's rare nobody hates gay no there's there's two thousand twenty five I can't see you you know it's all around us so if you're still hating you gays. No, there's people that hate gays. In 2025, I can't see you, you know, it's all around us. So if you're still hating, you got a fucking problem.
Starting point is 00:18:09 There's guys that have been molested when they were young. They get angry at gay people. Not that it makes sense, I'm not justifying it, but I've met guys that had problems with gay people. They were like very scared around gay people. But it was because they got molested by a pedophile. Right. That happened.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Pedophile and being gay is two different fucking things. Big difference. Big difference. So I'm just saying like there are people, and there's very religious people that don't like gay people. But most normal people don't give a fuck. Most normal people don't give a fuck. And they shouldn't.
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Starting point is 00:20:01 Right. The pre-revolution Cuban, they like... Italians too, Catholics. They won to go to the room if there's a gay man in the room I always thought that was the fuck you can't be in I won't go in there why because you're a machismo type of dude so that but my mother was the one that goes no they're fucking and then we had a gay guy in our neighborhood I told you about this guy, he was he worked with my mother, he was a designer on Broadway for some plays, he would design the cow fit. Okay. But at night he sold coke.
Starting point is 00:20:31 He was like, this is like 1975, and he would come to the bar, and I knew he was gay. His name was Matin, we call him Matin and Maricon because that's what that means in Spanish. But Maricon means fag in Spanish. So that was his open name in the Cuban community. But one day he came into my mother's bar and there was two bookies. I was like a kid, I was playing that shuffleboard.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Remember when you played the sawdust in the spring? I'm playing the shuffleboard and he was right there. And the two bookies were in the corner and the one guy goes, look who it is, my thing of Maricón. And this motherfucker pulled out at 32. Oh Jesus. And he goes, listen, I who it is, my thingamarygum. And this motherfucker pulled out at 32. Oh, Jesus. And he goes, listen, I'm gonna tell the bothies
Starting point is 00:21:08 that unless you suck my dick or I fuck you in the ass, you don't have the right to call me Martin the Fag. So say it again, I'm gonna shoot bothies. And my mom is yelling at him, Martin, Martin, Coco's behind you. If they start shooting at each other, I'm right here. I lift my head up, I'm like, oh, and Martin's like, and all of a sudden Martin left. So the next day, I guess he called my mother
Starting point is 00:21:26 to apologize. And Martin, my mother made Martin come and apologize to me. And when he opened the door, and he was like, I'm very sorry about pulling out the gun. I go, fuck that. You're my new Charles Bronson. I gave him a fucking hug. And he became my best friend after that. And I respected him because he was going through hate. Yeah, really.. In the mid 70s he would come back once a week with a black eye or busted lip he went to a bar in the village and there'd be guys waiting for him on the way out and I always respected that dude. Like always respected him for that. The problem with bullies and bigots and all people that attack people like that is all this is the same problem in all walks of
Starting point is 00:22:05 society it's weak men it's almost always just weak men weak stupid men that want to find someone to pick on want to find someone that's not bothering them at all and fuck with them because they're weak that's all it is that's all it is it's all but that's all it is that the woke people that scream at you and want you to do what they want the people that want to like spray paint swastikas on Teslas, it's the same thing. It's weak men, mostly weak men, a bunch of crazy women, and they're all together in this big pile of suck that's connected to a political ideology. But most people, you know, you shouldn't care.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And if you do care, you just weren't around. I was around gay people when I was really young fortunately I lived in San Francisco when I was seven years old and we were in the middle of gay land I mean it was San Francisco in the 70s dude it was gay as fuck during the Vietnam War in San Francisco I remember I'll be walked on street my stepdad once and a guy whistled at him I was like oh shit I'm kind of comfortable like he didn't freak out he's just like shook his head shook his head like what the fuck. When they whistle.
Starting point is 00:23:08 With a little kid, he's walking with a seven year old. And this guy whistled him down. That guy didn't give a fuck about kids. He's not making any, he doesn't care. So we had these next door neighbors who this gay couple and my aunt used to smoke weed with them and they'd get naked and play bongos and she loved the fact that she could get naked with these guys because they didn't try to fuck her so they all just get naked together and smoke weed and play bongos. It was hilarious. They were really nice people. So like my experience with gay people was just like they're everywhere. It's normal. So when I moved to Florida I had a friend,
Starting point is 00:23:43 my friend was Cuban. His name was was candy his last name was Candido we called him candy and Candy was with his dad and his dad throws a newspaper down on the fucking table god damn it and He's like whoa what's going on? It's like fucking fags are trying to marry each other And I remember I was 11 years old and I was like why do you care? Like he was getting through the newspaper at the table because the gay marriage, why do you care? Like he was getting, he threw the newspaper at the table because of gay marriage. Like why do you care?
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm like, what a fool. You're a grown ass man and you care about that? Like who cares if they get married? Yeah, I know. He was Cuban. But he was mad, bro, but fucking. Oh yeah, oh yeah. They wanna try to get married.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Because you know, they've been fucking with gays with marriage forever. It's so wrong, man. It's so wrong. There's nothing, listen, I see it and it doesn't bother me at all. It's just like everything else. It doesn't bother me at all. It's just there's a certain percentage of society that are just born gay.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And there's plenty of them to hang out with each other and they should be your friends. Scott! Yes, Scott! No, the football player. Oh, yes. Scott, that's his first name now. We got to work on his last name. God damn it Scott Yeah, I need to call somebody otherwise this is do you got Maddie Kirsh's number we should call Maddie Kirsh. He wouldn't know no Somebody's gonna drive me not somebody from Houston would know because I don't want to call somebody online I have to describe him and then people go you described Scott Well, what I was thinking you were saying was Jeff Scott Jeff Scott from the Congress was another example a gay guy
Starting point is 00:25:13 Who was our brother brother? He was our brother that that's it Scott Kennedy Scott Kennedy Look at him with his New Orleans shirt Scott Kennedy was awesome awesome. Sorry. I forgot his name, but he's not around to be embarrassed Kennedy was awesome awesome sorry I forgot his name, but he's not around to be embarrassed How did he die? I don't know look at him with Craig Ferguson He always had a football jersey always I mean that guy did not look gay like he looked like a big old football Player like you can see him in the backyard You know like like smoking a whole hog with a bunch of boys drinking Bud lights, but here's the problem Here's what I felt from Scott because I met met him in Houston and then we connected in LA in like 2000. When he hugged me I didn't feel threatened. No, not at all. When Jeff Scott hugged me. Never. I never felt threatened.
Starting point is 00:25:54 No, no, no, no, no, no. I have to. Eric Rocha, when he hugs me, the kid at the comedy store, I hug him with all my fucking heart. I don't even feel that type of shit. I never felt that. I've only felt that once ever from one comedian and it was at the Montreal Comedy Festival and he was drunk and he wouldn't stop. He kept touching me too. Kept touching me and telling me he wanted me to take me upstairs. Yeah, that was very unfortunate because he was just drunk and I don't even think he thought I was gay and I don't even think he thought I would do it. I think he was just trying to make me uncomfortable You know, but he was definitely like last call for alcohol like hitting on people and he was hammered
Starting point is 00:26:32 But I was thinking like imagine being a girl and this is happening. We fear for your life cuz I threatened him I said dude I'm gonna stomp a fucking hole in your chest if you keep doing this leave me alone and that was enough But if you're a girl, you can't say but if you're a girl you can't say that if your girl you got to go seriously leave me alone you got to find authorities you got to go to the fucking go to the front desk go to the bar like the the check out people and say can you guys call the police please this guy I don't want to walk to my car can someone walk me in my car you got to be worried about that that sucks
Starting point is 00:27:08 But that's rare with guys That's that's not happen to me once in 57 years Where a guy uncomfortably hit on me and wouldn't stop one of the time at the store But that wasn't as Blake. It was just he kept touching me like stop fucking touching me You know there's there's gay guys that like push those limits like if you were a girl and a guy Kept putting his hand on your leg. He'd be like hey Stop doing that like why do you keep grabbing me? Why do you keep touching my body? Why do you keep touching my legs stop? That's fucking weird
Starting point is 00:27:46 You're crossing lines, and I don't know what other lines you're thinking about crossing. So let's stop this But that's not most gay people You know, I have these friends that I live next to in California. They're gay and they're super Republican now. It's hilarious I followed them on Facebook. They're fucking super Republican now They're they're all in against the Dems how they've ruined, California Because these guys are their conservative gay couple. They're married. They got a kid and they're just like enough of this The world is changing brother. Yeah, well that is a lot. That's a good thing that the world is changing, you know because There's do you know the guy who invented the Turing test? You know what the Turing test is?
Starting point is 00:28:32 His name's Alan Turing. And he's, as a scientist, he invented a test that they say AI has passed. And this test is where you can talk to a computer and not be able to tell that it's a computer, that it behaves like a human. It thinks like a human, it communicates like a human, where it's indiscernible.
Starting point is 00:28:52 That's the Turing test. AI has recently passed the Turing test. Well, this guy, he was in England when this happened, right, Jamie, where they forced him to take medication. He got arrested for being gay in like the 1950s. And they forced him to take medication he got arrested for being gay in like the 1950s and they forced him to take medication that made him sterile made him impotent so he couldn't have sex like they they forced him to take like hormone blockers that they give to sex offenders you know chemical castration when they do that to sex offenders and then he killed
Starting point is 00:29:21 himself the guy who invented the method of determining whether or not A.I.s become sentient gets murdered by dumb apes who don't like that he's gay. How crazy is that? I'm not fucking that story up, right? I'm pretty sure that's the story. When do they give you blockers to sexual offenders? When do they give you blockers to sexual offenders? When do they give you that? Well, they don't always do it, you know, but it's called chemical castration.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And by the way, it's the same chemicals, the same drugs that they use on kids when they give them hormone blockers. So when you talk to it, they're talking about a child getting puberty blockers, you know, oh, it's totally reversible. The fuck it is. The fuck it is. The fuck it is. That's the same shit. It's chemical castration. It's not reversible. That child is never going to fully develop. If they get on hormone blockers, then when they're 18, they go, you know what, I think I actually am a
Starting point is 00:30:17 man too late, too late, because from 13 to 15, you suppressed your testosterone. Okay, here it is. Turing was later convicted by the advice of his brother and his own solicitor, and he entered a plea of guilty. In the case Regina versus Turing and Murray was brought to trial on the 31st of March, 1952. Turing was convicted and given a choice between imprisonment and probation.
Starting point is 00:30:43 His probation would be conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal physical changes designed to reduce libido known as chemical castration. He accepted the option of injections of what was then called stillbo-strawl, now known as diphyl-stilbo-st bestrawl or DES, a synthetic oestrogen. This feminization of his body was continued for the course of one year. The treatment rendered Turing impotent and caused breast tissue to form. In a letter Turing wrote that no doubt I shall emerge from it all a different man but quite who I've not found out. Murray was given a conditional discharge so Murray must have been the guy
Starting point is 00:31:25 he was having sex with. That's so crazy, man. Arrested for being gay. 1954 at his house, Turing's housekeeper found him dead. Postmortem was held that evening and determined that he had died from previous day at age 41 with cyanide poisoning, cited as the cause of death. He had an apple lay half-eaten beside his bed, although apples not tested for cyanide, it was speculated this was the means in which Turing had consumed a fatal dose. So he fucking killed himself because they chemically castrated him. You know, founder of computer science and crypto cryptographer whose work was key to breaking the wartime enigma codes. So this guy like helped the British crack
Starting point is 00:32:12 codes and what they do they injected him with poison so that his dick wouldn't work so he couldn't fuck guys anymore which is what he wanted. He was imagine that if they were everyone was gay, everyone, and you were straight. And you're like, I don't want to be dick, this is crazy. Like guys keep trying to offer your dick, like no no no no, is there anything else? And then you meet girls like, oh look they're so soft and so pretty, that's what I like, I like girls. And like no you don't. No, you're going to take this gay drug until you get that out of your system or we're going to chemicallyically castrate you you can't be having sex with girls like but uh, but they're so pretty
Starting point is 00:32:50 They're so lovely to be around so attracted to them. No no no no only guys. That's crazy That's so stupid These people especially like when you get to like serious fundamentalist rigid religions, which want to throw them off roofs This part of the Middle East they throw them off the roof give the round up all the gay guys You throw them off the roof And everybody watches and cheers. Yay Crazy It is a different world out there,
Starting point is 00:33:25 but it's the world out there that could be just like the world here. It could go this way here. That's what people don't understand. Just how Los Angeles fell apart, the United States could fall apart too. Look at Iran. We were looking at Iran the other day
Starting point is 00:33:36 in photographs from the 1970s. Girls had mini skirts, they all look really hot. The guys had no shirts on, no six-packs, walking down the street, everyone's smiling. Looks like Europe. It looks like you're in Italy. And now it's a religious run country. It's run by a dictatorship.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Like you criticize the government, they execute you. They executed an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling. Yeah, the UFC even tried to get them to stop. They pleaded to try to get them to stop. They pleaded to try to get them to stop. They tried to get Trump to get them to, or was it during the Biden administration or the Trump administration? I don't remember, but they tried to get the president to somehow or another talk to Iran and not kill this guy.
Starting point is 00:34:17 They killed him because he spoke against the government? Allegedly. But you don't even have to really have spoken against the government. That's what's so scary. You just have to be accused of speaking against the government. I mean to this day and age any like a friend of mine's Twitter account got hacked and he got fished. They sent him an email and he didn't you know he's not that sophisticated with that stuff and so he got fished and then I heard he got fished. So I go to my Twitter just because I never check my DMs but I did it just because I knew he
Starting point is 00:34:51 got fished and I went into my DM and it was him asking me for my email address after he got fished. So I was like this motherfucker he's trying to get me now. So someone could easily get your account and then or use you use some sort of code cracker or figure out your code, then start posting stuff for you against the government, especially if you're in Iran. Like, they probably already have all your passcodes for everything over there. They've probably been spying on everybody's computer
Starting point is 00:35:20 from the jump. They probably just go to the database. What's Joey Diaz's Facebook password? OK, post a bunch of shit there about these government, the people in government should all be lined up and shot, they all suck dicks secretly, they're all eating babies, just make them say something like that and then let's go round them up and then if you don't have any due process that's the kind of shit that dictators do. They just round you up.
Starting point is 00:35:42 That's the kind of shit that dictators do. They just round you up. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. It's not always fun to talk numbers. I get it, but it can be useful. Like seeing how much you spend on groceries or entertainment in a month, that's good to know when you're creating a budget. If you run a business, you probably wanna keep track
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Starting point is 00:37:28 war. And so they go to the front line and they get killed by American weapons. Guys who were tweeting against Putin. It's like you can use it to get rid of his political enemies. Crazy. And this is all while you and I at the same time hanging out in Boston or hanging out in Austin rather eating barbecue You know like it could go that way here, too Just like it went that way in Iran it could go that way in the United States just like LA fell apart LA 20 years ago was amazing Do you remember LA in 2005 we were having the time of our lives? 96 oh my god, we were having the time of our lives. 96, 97. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:38:05 We were having the time of our lives. The restaurants were great. There was music playing everywhere. It was fun. There was a lot of great comedy. We had a good group of guys we're all hanging out with. LA was great. Yeah, there was still some traffic, but you know, the weather was great.
Starting point is 00:38:20 People were generally pretty nice. A lot nicer than they were on the East Coast. It's not even the same place anymore. And that can happen anywhere. That can happen in the United States. If something terrible happens in the United States, new laws get passed, new restrictions, that can happen anywhere. That's why I talk about it so much.
Starting point is 00:38:38 People are like, why are you obsessed about it so much? Because you need to be paying attention. Because when it's too late, when they've already got complete control of what you could say on social media and they got you locked down, you're in trouble. You're in trouble because so many other things are coming that they're aware of and the big one is automation. Joey, when automation comes, and this is what Andrew Yang was kind of running on when he was running for president and I had him in and it was a very interesting conversation because it
Starting point is 00:39:08 was something that I hadn't considered that all these jobs are gone. Do you know in these parts of the world like there's ports in China now where it's 100% controlled by robots? There's a few people that run around and do maintenance and stuff but everything screens, everything is super efficient. These robots pick up the packages, they make an inventory of everything that's in there, everything gets logged into the computer, they put it into these trucks, and before you know it, they're going to have electric trucks that drive themselves.
Starting point is 00:39:38 That's when the strike happened in Jersey, all over with the Teamsters, with the Long Sherman, because they know it. They don't have much left. They don't have much time left. You know much time. It's fucking crazy how Industry has just dwindled in this country I know, you know and Americans really don't see that see because everybody's fucking Inter-traveling and being cool the gift that I had from doing comedy was I really got to see the country Mm-hmm. I really got to see the ins and outs. And when I was a feature actor, I would ask questions. You know, like when you don't sit in a hotel all day and just go out and you go to a movie theater
Starting point is 00:40:11 and you ask questions and people tell you, oh my God, that's a great restaurant. Go there. You know, you look at cities like Cleveland. Okay. I don't know if a lot of people know this. Twenty years ago, with all the jokes and shit, Cleveland had more Puerto Ricans than New York City. Really? Because there was a fucking car plant there. Ah. And they were building cars there. You know, I remember being a fucking kid
Starting point is 00:40:34 and going to Detroit for a basketball tournament or something stupid and seeing that city. It was 1976, 77, that city was fucking booming. Detroit was one of the richest cities in the world. Booming, it was the murder capital at the time was still even back then. Yeah. Yeah, I met my buddy in the 80s It was he was in Detroit. There was the murder capital but 75 76 that city was booming. Yeah, you know Buffalo, New York booming Fisher Price all these other companies left, you know That's what I saw Cleveland Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steel.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yep. I went to Pittsburgh two years ago, half the shit was closed down, brother. Yep. You know, so when I look- What, I was down, same thing, Youngstown? What, no, it was downtown Pittsburgh, like just around that area.
Starting point is 00:41:20 No, but Youngstown was like that too, right? Was it? Youngstown was a much better environment than it is now. Yeah. I believe, Tony told me, Tony's from Youngstown was like that too right? Youngstown was a much better environment than it is now. Yeah. Tony told me. Tony's from Youngstown. They have destroyed those parts of the country. Now I don't know what happened in Nebraska. They could have had their own problems in Wyoming. I just know that little stretch. Buffalo, Cleveland, you know fucking Cincinnati. Yeah. All those towns that were booming. Yeah. Have just disappeared. They got gutted. All the jobs went overseas.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So if you're going to bring this country back, it's got to start with that. We got to go back to that, to make it strong again. Yeah, we're going to have to fucking sweat it out for 10 months. But you know what? Three years, 10 years ago, I fucking was getting those 100-hour-a-day movies and I said, I'm not doing them anymore. For a year, I didn't work as an actor. Then finally, I got a high-scale movie, because I kept saying
Starting point is 00:42:07 no to the low movies. That's how you lift up a little bit. That's how you bump up by just saying fucking no. We didn't want to do this all of a sudden, and we need to do this. We need to get this country hopping again. Hopping! The problem is, they gave corporations an opportunity to make more money at the sacrifice of all those jobs in America. And the problem with corporations is they have an obligation to constantly make more money. And labor.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah. But no, but that's the way you make more money is by having no labor and not just that, no health insurance. This is, you know, Ron, not Ron Paul, what's his name? Ross Perot, Ross Perot talked about that. We were talking about it with Ron White the other day, that he was explaining that if you change these regulations and make it cheaper and easier for these people
Starting point is 00:42:55 to go and make, he said, you're gonna hear a giant sucking sound as all the businesses go south. And that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened. He called that in the 1990s. That was my boy. Yeah, I voted for him I love Rose Perot always did always That's a real fucking American right? He was they threatened him, dude
Starting point is 00:43:12 They they threatened his his family like he pulled out of that He was gonna run again a second time and he said he's not gonna do him because his family was under threat and that he considered serious. He was dangerous because he he could ruin the election. Like he Bush they thought was going to win a second term. But Ross Perot came along and conservative people that didn't really want to believe in the Republican Party anymore. Like this party is just as full of shit as the left. They saw this Ross Perot guy and then went, Oh, okay. He took a
Starting point is 00:43:41 considerable amount of the vote and most of it would be against what Herbert Walker Bush would have got. And then Clinton came along and fucking wasn't even supposed to win that year. Bam, now he's in, let's go. Remember, they're paying for this with your money. I'm paying for this with my money. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:59 That was his fucking classic shit. Yeah. That was hysterical. You remember when he had that half hour show show on TV were explained how the Federal Reserve works I don't remember that yeah He took over he bought a half hour of regular primetime TV to explain to people how you getting fucked He's explaining all the scams that you're that are being run on you that you don't know about and this is why I'm running For president I'm like, whoa, look at this guy that guy fucking did something that a
Starting point is 00:44:30 Lot of people don't know. Yeah, there's employees got kidnapped and I ran and he went in there and took him out he hired like a like a Mullen Brando from Apocalypse Now to train his employees Really? Yeah, he was a retired colonel, some badass Vietnam. So was his actual employees that went and got him out? Yeah, that's the story. He trained and he made his employees. It's a for- we're a family. Whoa. We're going on. And he made a promise to the people's families that he would have them back by Christmas and he had them back by Christmas. Wow. And Kissinger kept giving them fucking a hard time bunch of people kept giving him a hard time
Starting point is 00:45:06 He did not give a fuck. He goes I'm doing it. I gave those people my word his word was word How much money was he worth billions? Yeah, he's a billionaire back then and he yeah, I mean these already so how much money was Ross Perot worth Yeah, which back then so 1990 billionaire it's probably like it's probably just double the billions whatever it is probably something like that or maybe triple the bussy did he get oil money at the time 92 he was the 13th wealthiest man in America and that worth around 4 billion so what is four billion from that time worth today? Let's go. It's three. Let's guess eight billion eight. Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:51 I'm gonna say nine. I Might be way off though. I'm just I'm completely guessing That's a lot of money though. Still, it's almost double. Doug, what about the chief of policemen telling this shit on his desk? Yeah, why'd he do that? I don't know. Was he proving a point? What was up with that? You know, man, I heard he's a good dude, but he's a prankster. Oh! He's like a prankster type of dude. He sends fuckers. So he's like Ari Shaffir? Yeah, he sends like packages to your house and he's one of those dudes, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And I don't know. I guarantee he was like a joke and it just blew up. Now it's national. Now you got nowhere to go. Oh my god. Do you see what Ari did once? We shoved a note up his ass and he shit it out on stage and read it I don't want nobody to read a note out of their ass. I don't want you shitting in the room with me
Starting point is 00:47:01 What kind of parasites and bugs? Oh, he's got hemorrhoids, he's got... All sorts of stuff is flying through the air. Every breath you breathe is Ari's shit gas flying around. He's a fucking nut. He's so crazy. He has not stopped at all. Like, it is not ending. No. I'm going to his thing next week. He's never growing up.
Starting point is 00:47:21 No, no, he's never growing up. It's not happening. He's getting married, right? He got married or something like that he's already married yeah I'm gonna little celebration yeah I want to go to this party and shit I don't even know what the fuck it is it's gonna be a fucking carnival of psychopaths dog I was telling you that I got really fucking high I got home and I couldn't sleep and I started watching old fights I even watch a pepino Cuevas fight. Oh, yeah, I do was fast. Yeah, he was good
Starting point is 00:47:51 He was good and I watched you ever see him versus Tommy Hearns No, see if you can find pepino Cuevas versus Tommy Hearns Well, I want 90% sure that's I'm talking about Cuevas was I think a little thinner of a guy. Wasn't he a 47? Maybe I'm wrong. Thomas Hearns was a 47. Yes. He started his career at 47 and went all the way up to light heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah, Pepino Cuevas versus Tommy Hearns. One of the most memorable moments of the early days of Tommy Hearns is Like when he was like at the peak of his powers, Tommy Hearns was nuking people man. Just nuking people He had such a reach and such width for 45 He was such a physical freak and he was big but he had I mean long and skinny but crazy power It's like generally like thin guys don't have the same kind of power is like the muscular guys But Tommy Hearns was kind of like Deontay Wilder He was both thin and muscular at the same time and some you know real skinny legs man But my god the fucking torque that guy had in his punches
Starting point is 00:49:02 You gotta think of the leverage because his shoulders are so wide So is when he twists his hips and he's got those long arms coming your way with all those fucking back muscles And the core engaged fucking balam Hey balam, when was the last time there was a fight like this in detroit? Well tommy's from detroit. No, no, but i'm saying they don't even have fights like this in detroit. They don't Well Tommy's from Detroit no, no, but I'm saying they don't even have fights like this in Detroit They don't know is this was this in Detroit. Yeah. Oh wow. Well, that's Tommy's hometown, you know He was hunting people you ever seen him knock out Roberto Duran. Oh, I watch What I watched
Starting point is 00:49:38 Feature I watched I watched the ran Hagler Hag oh Yeah, back that up a sec back that up a sec. Look he's measuring him with his left. Watch this. He's measuring him And watch this Oh Oh my goodness son, oh My goodness. Oh my goodness that Tommy Hearns that kind of power was crazy Yeah, you better stop that fight.
Starting point is 00:50:08 My goodness. Tommy Hearns was a one hitter quitter. He faceplant Roberto Duran. What a crazy fight. I had to stop and roll it back. He rolled it back. The crazy thing about that fight is they did not box at all They went to war and there was no boxing slipping. There was no fainting
Starting point is 00:50:32 Marvin Haggard just said fuck you and ran at him He just ran at him and just fucking just started smashing it was non-stop. Yeah It was non fucking stop Tommy. It was like a minute and a half. It was non-fucking-stop. Tommy broke his hand in the first round. So in the first round, when they first come out of the game. Yeah, the greatest round of boxing. Look at this shit. Yup.
Starting point is 00:50:57 God, Hagler was good. He's another one who died right after the vaccine. Look at this, right away, right hook to the body just charging charging forward Charging for it. Fuck this fuck this boxer on the outside. I'm trying to get in there boom to the body again Boom right hand boom just going to fucking war dude right here I mean high profile two world champions completely throwing it all out the window just wailing on each other holy shit joe boom left hand boom boom the thing about Hagler was his discipline was fucking supreme and that never got that guy never got out of shape
Starting point is 00:51:47 He always could break guys break their will boom boom boom so that by this time Tommy probably already has a broken hand so he broken on Hagler's head somewhere in the first so now He's throwing the jab so I bet his hands already broken see it's all left hands now He threw that right hand, but he was was weak you know he didn't really hurt him with the right hand he's like pulling it back as he's throwing it see he's just trying to touch him with that right hand that that left hand is all he's got left his right hand is cooked and Hearns has decided to start moving and boxing which is not like his style See like even when he's landing that right hand he's got no power behind it now
Starting point is 00:52:35 And sugar ray letters talking shit in the commentary both fighters Hagler could take a shot too better than anybody. He only has one knockdown accredited to him his entire career, but it wasn't a knockdown. He fought Ron Roldan and Ron Roldan like kind of cuffed him in the back of the neck and like pushed him forward and Hagler fell forward and touched the ground and the referee mistakenly called it a knockdown. The only time he's ever been down. Took bombs from the greatest punchers in the division, beat everybody except Sugar Ray and I think the only reason why he lost to Sugar Ray was I think the fix was in that fight son. I watched that fight many times. Yeah times. Yeah, there's something about it. Something about it.
Starting point is 00:53:25 And then Haggar leaves and goes to become a movie star in Italy. Come on. His trainers are the Petronelli brothers in Brockton, Massachusetts. Come on. Shut the fuck up. You know how much money was on Haggar to win probably? You know? There's probably some sort of a deal like, look, the odds are very favorable in angler's direction
Starting point is 00:53:47 and we can get a bet on Leonard, we can clean up here, we can get Marvin to just like, you know, don't put him away, just touch him a little bit, touch him. He never has him hurt, never has him hurt in the whole fight. Just, he was so good, I just, he didn't seem right. It seemed like almost he was like sparring sometimes. Hard to say though. Sugar Ray was so good too.
Starting point is 00:54:11 The guy could come back after all those years off, you know, he had one fight, got dropped, said he was retiring, and then comes back and decides he's gonna fight Hagler. And then he wins. And then Hagler's like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm gonna go to Italy and make terrible movies You ever see those Marvin Hagler movies no, oh you gotta see some clips no Joey They're the dumbest movies of all time. Hagler punches people they go flying through the air No, they're fun look he was having a good time. I Bet he was a huge star in Italy, but that's that to me
Starting point is 00:54:51 It's like everything seems fishy and the fight seemed fishy to me. The decision seemed fishy to me And then Hagler goes off and becomes a movie star and I go, okay Italy how does that happen how do you get connected how does that happen look how bad this movie is look how bad this movie is I want those Indios! Marvelous Marvin Hagler returns from the original Indio. Indio 2, the Revolt. The jungle is shrinking. It's here to build a highway to our jungle. It's eight by the mile.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And greed is spreading. You had better start praying to your god that we finish the highway before the rainy season. Here, only one man is mean enough. I know many of us may die, but it is better to die than to live like slaves. Mad enough. Tell them the days of running and hiding are over. This is your land. And enough to fight back.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Will you lead us, my friend? Sometimes. It's hilarious. I don't see one Italian. There's not one fucking Italian. That guy. That guy was mustache. That was Sergio. I don't see one Italian There's not one fucking Italian That was Sergio I gotta be in this movie you get you hit me with a left hand come on I got one scene Hilarious Wow, I didn't even know that shit. Yeah, that guy was my hero when I was a kid
Starting point is 00:56:21 And then didn't make him like a shaft or anything they made him go into like the fucking I can see we put him with kind of like Italian movies. It's an Italian movie They made him in Italy There's a lot of movies being made in Italy. That's why they call those spaghetti westerns, right? You know that did you ever hear of those stories like how interesting that is the Sergio Leone movies? Well, I just saw something about it. Maybe eight months ago, but there's a thing in my channel 11 in Jersey on a Saturday is called I am And every week they have somebody else and it's brilliant. Joe. I am Bruce Lee. I am this I am that really and they had
Starting point is 00:56:58 We just talking about Marvin Hagler. No, they had an I am about somebody. Oh Marvin Hagler I am about somebody oh Please would Clint Eastwood, and it was how he would go and shoot the movies And then they would send them the films and he'd have to do ADR in LA. Oh really fucking interesting shit I didn't know anything about this stuff So why did he have to do 80 so ADR? What does that stand for? For though automated dialogue replacement. Thank you. When he shot the movies he was just talking. So then when he'd get them after they put them together he would lay the American in
Starting point is 00:57:34 them. Oh I see. And how he would send them back and they would send them back. So when he shot the movies he wasn't even speaking? He had to speak over it. Over it or something, yeah. Wow, they probably had it dubbed in Italian. But you gotta remember, listen, I'm a big fan of that era of movies. That's my era of movies, those people. And Doug, you know how I watched the other night? You haven't seen this movie in 30 fucking years, none of years. When you put it on, you're gonna shit. One flew over the cuckoo's nest. I haven't seen this movie in 30 fucking years, none of years. When you put it on, you're gonna shit.
Starting point is 00:58:05 One flew over the cuckoo's nest. I haven't seen that in forever. Dog, they got seven stars in that movie. Like you and Babbit, Charlie Babbit, Martini, fucking the guy from Jersey, what's his name, that was in Taxi, the little guy, he's still around? Oh, Danny DeVito? Danny DeVito was in that, dog. Really?
Starting point is 00:58:22 Fucking a dude with the big head. Look at the fucking cast on Christopher Lloyd Wow, bro, look Samson. Oh, that's the dude. That's our boy. Yeah, the outlaw Josie. Well, yeah, these are my words of life Yeah, that's also my words of how the fuck he made three movies this Outlaw Josie Wales and fucking some other movie. He was in three fucking brilliant movies that dude He like how's a lot of movies. Bro this movie is fucking hilarious. They'll make a bit of sense to me. This will never happen again. That guy by the way is a normal guy in today's society.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Who? Jack Nicholson. Yeah. Like you couldn't ever get him into mental health. You'd be like, this guy's fine, let him out. Like there's more fucked up guys right now than that guy that are tending bar on 6th Street right now. And this movie starts politically incorrect.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Like they couldn't make this today like this. No. And I'm surprised they haven't tried to remake this movie starts politically incorrect like they couldn't make this play like this No, and I'm surprised they haven't tried to remake this movie well, you know, they're the the guy who made Home Alone Said that he wanted to cut Trump from it out of the scene, but he's worried that he'd get sent in prison if he did it Because he keeps getting aggravated. The people are annoying him. I think they cut it out of it in Canada.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I think the Canadian version of, is it Home Alone 2? Yeah, Home Alone 2. You know how many TV shows Trump did over the years? I've seen him once a fucking month on something. They have to say that. They have to say that. No, I get it. It's part of their liberal identity.
Starting point is 01:00:02 They have to say that it's part of their liberal identity. You have to be united. But like I was telling you that the people that I grew up liking and so do you, that's what I liked about them. That they had to go somewhere else to become stars. And when they came back to the United States, they were like, we're fucking you in the ass now. That's Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson, Steve McQueen, not as much,
Starting point is 01:00:29 he just wanted to fuck everybody in the ass. Steve McQueen was just like, you're sucking my dick either way, I'm doing what I want. They don't even have that. When was the last time you, the worst thing we've had in Hollywood in 20 years is when Brad Pitt made the movie with Angelina Jolie and he never came back
Starting point is 01:00:46 My poor Jennifer Hanna still was waiting with flowers and slippers that motherfucker never came back She's a temptress. The first one was when Steve McQueen Took that girl from the head of fucking oh, yeah And then did a movie under his fucking nose that that is something that they will cancel you. They couldn't do nothing to him. Well, he was one of the rare movie stars back then. There wasn't that many movie stars. When there's an actual movie star in 1979, there's not a lot of those people. You need them to sell tickets. People don't know new people. They're not online. You got to like, no, it's a Steve McQueen movie and you go see it But if you like, oh, who's the who's the star of the movie? I never heard of the guy fuck this movie
Starting point is 01:01:28 Oh, look over here. There's a Clint Eastwood movie. Let's go to see that like stars were everything everything everything It's interesting because some great movies now don't have any stars in them Like Mel Gibson when he made apocalypto, you don't know anybody in that movie. That's a great movie It's a great movie and you don't know anybody in that movie. That's a great movie It's a great movie and you don't know anybody in that movie. It's perfect. It's perfect because you really believe the characters that way I don't have to go as Robert Downey Jr. Always doing a great job pretending to be that scientist No, no, it's some guy that might actually be a scientist, you know Yeah, I don't know but no they didn't do anything Steve McQueen Charles Bronson same way. He was a prick on those movie sets They wanted everything they took everything Joe
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah, it just came up. We discussed the last time they just they just got released to Steve McQueen writers From his movies the writers Yeah, well writers are different for people that don't know that means like all the things that you get when you're on the set I'm like he was on MM's in my green room. I want, you know, Pink Floyd albums, whatever. Fucking insane. Yeah. His was insane.
Starting point is 01:02:31 His suits had to be a certain cut. They had to cost a certain way. Well, he ain't worried at Steve McQueen. Some comics have that kind of shit where you have to have size 11 Jordans waiting for them backstage. Yeah, but you pay for it. Comics are like, yeah, I'm not going in there too. I got my size 12
Starting point is 01:02:48 Yeah, they gave me some sneakers. Oh you didn't you bought those sneakers stupid comes out of the price Yeah, they think that oh, they bought me sneakers cuz I'm special Yeah, but I think it's a thing where you want to be you want to be feeling like you're being taken care of I don't know how bring my own sneakers. I'm gonna show up and there's a box of snow. Oh, yeah, even though you're paying for it. Fuck that. I'll bring my own sneakers. Yeah, I'll bring my own sneakers. I'm gonna show up and there's a box of sneakers. Oh, you got me white sneakers. I'm not gonna perform. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Because that shit started happening. Oh, really? Yeah, people were like, I want black Jordan. And all of a sudden they're white. I ain't getting on stage until I get my black Jordan. Now they gotta run around town. I've heard people turn limos back. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Back in the day because it was the wrong color limo. Yeah, yeah. I ordered a color limo. Yeah, yeah. I ordered a white limo. What is this bullshit? And who fucking drove you when you lived under that fucking bridge? Just getting the goddamn fucking car cock sucker. People love making demands, right?
Starting point is 01:03:36 Like it has to be this way, or that's it, I walk. People love making demands. And that's what happens in that fucking town in Hollywood. And people go, okay, no, go fuck yourself. You want that, bring it yourself. And once you start doing that, that, listen, I understood what you said before about Austin, and it makes sense to me now. It's like the day I took my daughter to school, and there was moms hugging trees in Studio City crying. If I was a redneck, I'd show up with a shotgun that day and just shoot it and watch those moms just fly. That's where the guns keep the liberals in check. city crying. If I was a redneck, I'd show up with a shotgun that day and just shoot
Starting point is 01:04:05 it and watch those moms just fly. That's where the guns keep the liberals in check. Okay? That's when you come in and go, you want to hug trees? Boom! And fucking start shooting off. Dog, they were hugging trees. Right in front of the school, my daughter and Birch went. Why were they hugging trees? Because they were going to cut the trees down. We went to the school and the cops were there and women were hugging the trees, holding each other's hands, crying. This is why I had to get the fuck out of that. Crying. And that's where a guy with a gun would have been perfect. A big fucking gun.
Starting point is 01:04:39 You guys like trees so much. Boom! And those bitches would have been running to that fucking coffee shop crying they didn't know what happened fuck those trees Jack that's what you need a gun in California to tell these motherfuckers shut the fuck up you go on Facebook now and I see people I used to hang with in California and they're talking about other people everybody's so talented and everything's so gracious and to work with such a great bunch of talented individuals Thank God they let my creative juices work shut the fuck up
Starting point is 01:05:13 Shut the fuck up. What are you talking about? I think the smack you now or smack you later It is it's so much anxious very and that's what I don't, I don't miss any, listen, at all. When I watch it in a movie now, I can't even stand small talk. Like that's what I didn't even know what small talk was. You know, it was like the night you did a show, this is, I'm talking to you about before Fear Factor. You did a show maybe at the Wulturn one night.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah. And we left a bunch of people there and they circled you like Ann Maney and a bunch of other people and they were talking to you about a deal or something. And it was like, oh my God, your set was so great. And you're supposed to stand there like, thank you. I fucking hate that shit. Yeah, they love kissing people's ass. We loved it.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh my God. Mimi and I loved it. Mimi. Mimi and I loved it. Yay! Mimi, Victoria and I loved it. Yeah. We're so happy you invited us. And you have to sit there and go, come on, knock it the fuck off. That was in the deal days. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I'd still be shopping around deals. Yeah, well they'd come up to you and talk to you. You had to be like, fucking, hi, yeah. So how was that? How did that feel? Yeah, well you still connected to the system and that was how I was making most of my money So I'd make some money from stand-up, but I would make like a couple hundred thousand dollars on these deals That would be my year's money and then I'd be working with some fucking schlub making a sitcom that sucked It never went anywhere. I did that for a couple years. So I did that from like 99 to 2001 and Never went anywhere. I did that for a couple years. So I did that from like 99 to 2001 and
Starting point is 01:06:49 then fear factor started News radio is on at 8 o'clock. It's everywhere. My kids watch I watch it I watch I watch my favorite episode a couple weeks ago when he was playing the piano on the fucking Phil Harmon He was playing the piano on the elevator and it kept opening up. Oh, that's right. Talk about. Talk about.
Starting point is 01:07:10 That was a fun episode. That was a fun show. But that show ruined me for other sitcoms. Doing a sitcom after that show, like why, it's not gonna be the same, it's gonna suck. You need the, it's like a very rare combination of people to put together a really good sitcom That was a very good show
Starting point is 01:07:27 It was just I know that you told me over the years that they kept moving you and never found a home or something Yeah, they moved like nine times. The show really became popular after it was in syndication. That's when it became popular It became popular when I was on, you know 7 p.m. On ABC or whatever the fuck it was, NBC affiliate. You know, when they were just showing the syndicated reruns. That's when it became popular, way more popular after it was canceled than it was when it was on the air. One of the writers, Lou Morton, every day we'd come to the to the table read. He would have a T-shirt, like a white T-shirt, and we'd write a number on it.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And that number was our ratings. And one day he came in, it was like I was like 85 really it's like we're like 85th we're the 85th show that's good terrible what good is number one oh no I just did not know like a rating system no no no no it's the ranked shows in the country We were like 85 or 88 something like that. It was real bad Real bad. Well, you were like on the verge of being canceled. I know you're watching some good shows now Yeah, I'm watching one show There's some people were dangerous and then there's Helen Mirren What are you watching? Oh the 1923 show both of them. Oh, yeah mob land. Oh, yeah, I heard mob lands great
Starting point is 01:08:48 She's fucking great. Yeah, I haven't seen that. Yeah, Italian mafia movies. They're done Nero just put out the lights out. They took it out of movie theater in two fucking weeks He put what out you put a movie called out the nights out where he plays two roles He plays Frank Costello and somebody else or V jenna vz i don't know exactly somebody should have taken denieros keys away when he wanted to go out and do political speeches well no i think that listen you're not gonna but by the movie because of his political beliefs and no but people are
Starting point is 01:09:17 going to take him seriously no he was political bulls the way he acted he dropped some people okay and i get it but to make two million dollars your first week That's not good, and then like three million after that then they just yank it I tried to go just to watch it. It's called alto nights. Have you heard of it Jamie? Nobody came and went came and fucking went the problem when these when People who want to be taken seriously as actors talk a lot about politics
Starting point is 01:09:48 and talk a lot and give out opinions, they think that their opinions are very important and that it's important that they speak out, but the problem with that is like you ruin your acting for other people who now think of the stupid shit that you've said instead of thinking you as this character. Let me hear a little of this. Anyway, let's get started. Come on. Where do I start? You're going down a very dangerous road.
Starting point is 01:10:12 And we ain't been down dangerous roads before. But that's the risk you take. Me? I take that risk. But you're not where I am. I get the charities. I pay my taxes. I'm not going to let you get away with this.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I'm not going to let you get away with this. I'm not going to let you get away with this. I'm not going to let you get away with this. I'm not going to let you get away with this. I'm not going to let you get away with this. I'm not going to let you get away with this. I'm not going to let you get away with this. I'm not going to risk you take me I take but you're not where I am I get the charities. I pay my taxes It's actually looks good I put you where you are today it's because of me Mr. Good citizen you want to be like them come on you ain't like them they own this country
Starting point is 01:10:43 They're bigger gangsters than we ever could be. All of a sudden you want to be half-thin, half-thot, half-aracadid. You can't have it both ways. You're either in... or you're out. That looks good! I'm telling you. That looks good. I'm telling you. That looks good.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I'd watch that. The movie is not bad. I'm telling you it's because of De Niro talks too much. I think that we're not we're so out of going to the movies every Friday and every like they said nobody knew it came up. I didn't know it came up. Well COVID killed the movie theaters. Oh it's it's a shame.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Because they made movies way quicker out on streaming now. All I have to do is wait a month. I can wait a month. One month later I can watch it at home. I don't have to like see somebody like texting people right in front of me with their fucking phone blinding white. People talking. What did he say? What did he say? Do you want any popcorn? The movie theater I go to is a universe soul there. Not a soul. I've never seen anything like that. It's so usually go to the last screening on Thursday night Not a show. I mean most movie theaters people are polite. No, very nice where I go very Risk that risk of one douchebag Who fucks it up for everybody? I don't I won't go see a popular movie
Starting point is 01:12:05 I'm not a top-rated like that. I like to go and see I see a movie I go you know what I'm gonna watch that some movies I could watch it on that I want to watch in the fucking thing anything with 3d like wicked or whatever I go I take my mushrooms I take my daughter I sit there she enjoys it and I fuck and have a great wicked was great wicked was great the only thing was don't go on mushrooms. No? I was so fucked up. The chick is black and green.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I couldn't deal with that right off the top. Where's the black people? Raise your hand. What the fuck? I'm feeling like a racist in here. She can't be black and she can't be green. Then Ariana with no eyebrows, that killed me. She had like those blind eyebrows.
Starting point is 01:12:43 I'm on fucking mushrooms and this movie won't end. It won't end. It's a long movie. It's a fucking long movie. But I'm looking at her and she's having such a great time. When you look at your kids and they're having such a great time, you're like, I don't give a fuck. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:12:58 I enjoyed the Barbie movie. How about that? I never saw it. I enjoyed it. I went with my kids. They had a good time. I thought it was funny. Everybody was like complaining. It's a you know, it's a political it's against the patriarchy like listen Here's my position a movie is a lot of people
Starting point is 01:13:12 Like if you make a good movie and it happens to have a political slant to it. I don't care Is it a good movie? I don't care. I don't care like I did you're not gonna change my opinion in a movie Like this is your opinion. This is how you're gonna do it like okay, so this movie is like a pro-feminism movie people were saying they were complaining I'm like, what do you it's a Barbie doll and we just make a movie nobody raise their fucking hand and police I but that's all it but the thing is everybody has to because they have to have a hot take on everything Everybody has to have a hot take there's a Everybody has to have a hot take. There's a market out there of people where all they do is look for something to point out that's a disaster or a failure or here's my hot take and why this sucks and that's what they do. All they do is like find things that suck and they very rarely talk about things that are awesome.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Which is crazy because there's so much awesome shit out there right now. I hate all that shit You know what's great on Apple Plus? slow horses Okay, you've you heard of it. You know what it is. No, it's uh, it's Gary Oldman. Oh, yeah Yeah, my wife watches that it's a British spy fucking tremendous. It's fucking great tremendous really good show I would watch in the one with John Hamm She said it's fucking tremendous. It's fucking great. Tremendous. Really good show. I've been watching the one with Jon Hamm. Which one?
Starting point is 01:14:28 He has a show, Jon Hamm, where he becomes a thief in a rich neighborhood. Oh really? He loses his job. Bro, there's too many shows. Yeah, there's too many fucking shows. There's too many shows. You just can't, you can't watch them all.
Starting point is 01:14:40 You wanna watch a show that you shouldn't be on, Mushrooms? Severance. I heard that's very well, good anyway. Yeah, it's a very good show. Don't watch that on Mushrooms though, you'll mushrooms severance. I heard that's very well good anyway Yeah, it's a very good show. Don't watch that on mushrooms. Oh, you'll get fucked. I watch that movie Demi Moore What are you I heard about that? That is it is that a show or a movie movie that is the weirdest fucking movie I've seen in years. It's a movie where like she gets young again and goes back and forth and young. Yeah
Starting point is 01:15:02 It was a little too substance and forth and young yeah substance did you see Jamie no I was gonna see it it's like a black mirror type movie and that just came back out to black mirror yeah I heard the new ones are great do you watch 1823 yes you like that you enjoyed it I enjoyed all of them love it yeah I love it all of them land man's good too see land man that's very. Yeah, that fucking Billy Bob's man I love anything. They're shooting already. Yeah, right there down there shoot. I believe so Yeah, cuz they were looking for vehicles or something. I saw last Yeah, well Taylor likes to do everything down here when he can you know, he's got that giant ranch out here Taylor Sheridan
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah, yeah, four sixes. He's got that ranch and You know, I mean that guy can't lose everything Yeah, you ever met him. No fucking great guy. No, I have mutual friends that tell me you should meet him I had dinner with him in Burt in Vegas recently All our wives together After the fights after UFC fights and a bunch of my pool player friends came by and Goggins Goggins was there with his wife to. Great time. Fucking great dinner. So much fun. We're all laughing, having fun. Good fucking time. But Taylor Sheridan's great. Just the guy can't lose. And you know, he made
Starting point is 01:16:17 Sicario, bro. You know, go watch that. I've watched it. I love it. Watch that again. The first and the second one. Sicario was a fucking banger of a movie. It was on TV the other day. I was like, that's right. This movie's, that's a banger of a movie. You know, it's a shame that, I don't know, maybe before the pandemic had started with like really bad movies. It's just a shame.
Starting point is 01:16:40 You know, it really is a shame that we got to for shows this long like fucking there's so much to watch Yeah, the Adam's family never came back with Jenna Garcia. Was it supposed to come back? Yeah Netflix never and I worked at one of the dudes and he goes yeah, we already shot it It's still fucking been like three years Why they come back my kids gonna fucking not even remember. Oh, she didn't remember it Anyway, are they doing anything with it? I want I've never heard anything again, huh? Why would they do that? That was sense
Starting point is 01:17:11 Netflix is off the you know, they don't know they just Netflix has so much fucking shit on there There's so much so much if I see one more Pablo Escobar thing They got if you watch like a murder thing one time forget it. They're talking about doing the UFC on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently I think the UFC's negotiation period with ESPN ended. So what that means is they could talk to other people. That fucking thing that night when everything fell apart that was the bad night. What which night which when the ball dropped not this card But the one before that when the pay-per-views when all the disasters started it was about pay-per-views one night that nobody was getting the pay-per-view
Starting point is 01:17:57 Oh, right Fucking the app failed. Yeah, it was too overwhelming for the UFC I think the shit happens But every this must have been bad because what fight what fight card was that Jamie where there was a failure? I don't was I working that how do I not know that that happened? I don't think you were working that one 313 so two events ago may March. Where was that? Where was it? Was that uh, Adesanya or uncle of decision over prayer oh Okay, so I was working that one you did work it
Starting point is 01:18:43 Yeah, I was working that one for sure It was uncle live when he won the title over Pereira So the the pay-per-view what happened it went down or it was partially went down it partially went down I couldn't order the car. Oh, it was a bunch of shit going on Then I went on Twitter and I saw Frankie I get a bunch of other guys Fighters saying what the fuck is wrong with mine. I'm like, okay It's not just me and then I've heard the riff-raff that night and then the next day they were talking about and then Monday Dana Was hot. I know he did something he said something about it
Starting point is 01:19:12 well I think in general the pay-per-view numbers are down as well because the Casuals aren't buying as much because you don't have first of all the UFC is not like boxing like a boxing pay-per-view is like Oh Canelo's fighting in four months and then you get gear up and you buy the Canelo Alvarez pay-per-view. If you're a big boxing fan you might buy one once every couple months. If you're like hardcore, you're watching all of them, you're on Dazon and you're on ESPN Plus, you're watching every boxing match there is but there's not a lot of pay-per-views. The UFC has a pay-per-view every week, or excuse me, every month, and then they have
Starting point is 01:19:49 a fight every week. So it's like getting people to shell out 70 bucks for this card. And also like some of the great fights are on the undercard. And you already, before the pay-per-view starts, you already have, you know, three and a half hours of great fights you can watch for free. And some of them, they're trying to lure you into buying the pay-per-view. So some of the best fights are really on the undercard. Sometimes, like guys who you don't know their names yet.
Starting point is 01:20:16 There's always one good fight that I want to watch on the undercard. I go, I'm going to watch the undercard. Always. Two fights or something. Always. And then you guys start talking about the fights and then then you get you know, and then you order it Yeah, I mean the big fight clearly this last weekend was Volkanovsky versus Lopez That was the fight I really wanted to see because I really want to see if Volkanovsky could pull it off
Starting point is 01:20:36 all-time great featherweight champion one of the For sure greatest fighters of all time Shoo-in for the Hall of Fame, but he's 36, and he got knocked out two times in a row, and he's fighting this fucking animal in Diego Lopez. It was a great fight though, and Volk pulled it off, but the fight that I really wanted to see was Bryce Mitchell versus John Silva.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Because John Silva is a motherfucker, dude. That guy looks like a world champion. He looks like he- He choked him with a shot of darts? Yeah, well he choked him like a world champion he looks like he's gonna shut the doors yeah well he choked him like a ninja choke okay and was like a no no arm in with the Darcy of the arm in and you cinch it up that was just all neck and put him to sleep he tapped and then he went out and to do and he just beat him from pillar to post the entire fight and was smiling and to just beat him. From pillar to post the entire fight and was smiling and laughing and looked like he was never threatened
Starting point is 01:21:30 and never in danger, just like he was on another level, like way above Bryce, like looked like a world champion, like even guys that have beat him before that beat Bryce Mitchell before, except Josh Emmett, who just KO'd him with one punch but like even Ilya Toporia like he got to get a hold of him first like John Selva looked like he was never a fight like almost like he was having fun he was trying to get him to touch hands at the beginning of every round he wouldn't do he's like come on touch hands he tried he's like
Starting point is 01:22:01 touch hands he wouldn't touch hands And then finally just put him to sleep He's an animal man. That guy is uh, that whole team apparently the fighting nerds I was talking to john anik about this. He said they have data scientists that work for the team data scientists who analyze techniques And they like break things down like what's effective in patterns. They find patterns patterns of opponents what the person does when they do it Brazil Brother that's a team of fucking savages Kyle Bahá'u'lláh, who's one of the top? 185-pounders who might be the best in the world
Starting point is 01:22:41 I mean when when he fights trick is to pussy eventually we'll see but he's just torching that division I mean, he's one of the best contenders in that and then you have Mauricio Rufi Who's one of the baddest lightweights alive gigantic lightweight tall and long wheel kick Bobby Green into another dimension Are you got that guy you got Carlos protest? Who's a fucking killer? Stone-cold Muay Thai killer who's really hard to take down and he's just 100 finishing rate in the UFC I believe. He just knocked out Neil Magni. He fucks everybody up. He's a sniper, like super skillful and slick Muay Thai guy. So their whole team is just killer, killer, killer, killer. It's all killers. Just like a team of brilliant up and coming killers. These guys are learning now.
Starting point is 01:23:29 It's not just about training hard. It's not just about sacrifice. It's about thinking hard too. It's about learning. It's about really going over your game and what can you improve upon? And how do we make this better? How do we seal up this part of the game?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Amazing. I think the guy that led that for me was GSP. Oh yeah. I was always very impressed with how every fight he showed up with something different. Yeah. While his opponent was still like, yeah, GSP's got skills, but I still got this right hand.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Okay. You wanna talk about this right hand, okay. You got a problem with your right hand? Always learning. He was always learning. He was in the city with the kickboxing guy. He was over- Phil Nurse. He was with the Phil Nurse and the Watt. Yeah, and then he would go with all the Greg Jackson guys.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Wild card, he would go over there. Go to wild card, train his boxing. Remember when he fought, I think it was Josh Kaczak, and he was jabbing, was that the fight where he fucking broke the jab out and he had trained at wild card? Yeah, his jab, it fucked Josh's eye up so bad that Josh couldn't fly home.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I remember that, I remember all that shit, and that's what I liked about him. His training was, another time, you know, you're watching and he's doing gymnastics. Where's gymnastics and all this playing games? Well he has realized that gymnasts are so powerful because they have such control of their body and he's like, well I'm going to get better control of my body. So he learned how to do back flips and shit.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Unbelievable. Swimming. Yeah. Incredible. Doing this, doing that. And meanwhile you're still going, well my jujitsu game is elevated. This motherfucker just went and worked out every part of his game but focused on just one really.
Starting point is 01:25:04 You know what's really crazy about him? He still does the same thing. He's really a martial artist. He comes to Austin all the time to train with John Donoher and Gordon Ryan all the time. He's here all the time. I see him like every couple months. He comes down to train and then he'll go somewhere else to train and he'll go somewhere else to train. No desire to fight. He doesn't want to fight anymore at all. He's just a martial artist. He's so happy and content. He's like the best example of a guy who retired with millions in the bank and is living like his best life. He's a real martial artist. He really is.
Starting point is 01:25:34 He just wants to learn and grow. Like, why would he come here and train with Gordon Ryan? Why would he train with that fucking animal if you're not actually thinking about competing? But for him, it's just all about growing. It's all about growing in this martial arts journey that he's on for his whole life. It's really amazing. It's very cool. You know, when he would come to 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu
Starting point is 01:25:55 and he would learn stuff from Eddie too, he came down to learn the turning sidekick from me. Like he just wants to learn from everybody. He wants to learn everything. He's always constantly seeking out. Yeah. Very smart. Very smart. And you'll see him. He's in all these different gyms. You see him. Oh look, he's in Thailand. He's working with Muay Thai guys. He's over here. He's over there. He's just enjoying his life and training martial arts all over the world. It's incredible. Incredible. It's
Starting point is 01:26:21 beautiful because the saddest thing for me is when a fighter stops fighting and they lose their identity. George has never lost his identity. He hasn't gone through some weird phase where he doesn't know what to do with himself. I am not impressed with your performance. That was one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Yeah, that became like a meme before memes. I was not impressed with your performance. Nicest fucking guy in the world too.
Starting point is 01:26:46 And really smart man, really interested in all kinds of shit. Like always like reading stuff and fascinated by things. Just a guy, just a curious guy who wants to learn and he's just going through his life, just having a good time now. He doesn't have to think about business. You know, it's just training. It's kind of fucking awesome. It's awesome. It really is. It really is. Because like with no, no goal in mind other than growth, other than growth and getting
Starting point is 01:27:15 better and still rolling hard, man. I'm watching the role with these guys. He's rolling with assassins. You know, he's still doing jujitsu with like top flight black belts, man. Would you ever consider going back to take one donor? No No, just going to a school once a week and just going in there with a bunch of guys and throwing some kicks and shit I thought of my own. I am no no, you're not feeling me. What do you mean? Anybody can work on their own Could you imagine now if you're like I've been thinking about it. There's a purple belt at my jujitsu school. He's 68 Oh, well came from a fucking shuttle con karate background and he goes I teach in the Bronx every Wednesday night He goes this was my school. I sold it, but I still go up down to Wednesdays come with me some time
Starting point is 01:27:57 I'm like wow, how cool would that be? It would be cool to take class That's what I'm saying one time a week like something that that you... As long as you don't have to spar. No, no, no, no. But you do those, you know, like when you do taekwondo, they have those... One steps. One step, like those little... Yeah. Those are the chic they run, I think they call where...
Starting point is 01:28:16 Basically drills. Yeah, it's drills. And that's what you need. You're not gonna... No, you're not gonna fucking... You're not gonna fucking spar and go crazy, but... Drills are really important They're really important people don't like doing cuz sparring is so fun same with jujitsu
Starting point is 01:28:30 Like Eddie Bravo always say that like drills are terrible. They're so boring But if you can do them it'll make you just a way better Like the biggest leap that I ever got in my like when the beginning of my jujitsu journey Was when I became friends with Eddie we would train in my garage. I had mats in my garage. And we would just drill for like an hour and a half. What would you do? He was showing me a lot of his rubber guard stuff, like the early stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:53 But we would just drill like different positions, how to escape certain positions, how to finish from certain positions, what to be careful of. And then we just go through paths. Like path was, you know, pass into half guard, push on the knee, move into side control, side control, head and arm, secure the arm,
Starting point is 01:29:13 finish the arm triangle, and what we'd do is like, if he was doing it to me, I would resist like 40%, maybe. You know, you just kinda like sort of resist, and they secure it, and you kinda resist, and they finish it off. So it's like basically you're just, you're doing it as if, you're doing the same pathway with the same things
Starting point is 01:29:30 that a person would do to resist but then they're not trying to really stop you. They want you to tap them. Like this is the idea of the drill. So I'm just, I'll get my hand in but it's just so that you can push my hand down and then lock it over. So-
Starting point is 01:29:43 Well that's big now. Yeah, drilling is everything. People are flow rolling. and then lock it over. So that's big now. Yeah, drilling is everything. People are flow rolling. People are selling it more. Even Tom DeBlas is like, dog, listen. It's a way to get better. It's really the way to get better. But the problem is you gotta keep it motherfucker flowing.
Starting point is 01:29:58 And that's the problem that after a while you're like, oh, and also the next thing you know is not a flow. Right, now you're going to try to catch it. And that's the problem. It always starts off with a flow for a minute and a half and then it goes off the fucking reservation That's always the same with kickboxing sparring too when I was training at the Jet Center There was this one dude that I still love to train with he was an older guy. So I was probably 26 back then 27 maybe and he was maybe like closer to 3540 like had had some fights
Starting point is 01:30:28 I just like to stay in shape and we would spar and He knew I was an actor or comedian whatever I was on a TV show and I don't want to get hit too much And he knew what he so we would spar we just touch each other Yeah, and I knew he wasn't gonna try to knock me out But other guys I knew like we're fighting like we're sparring This is a fight but with him I knew when I got so sharp because of that because he and I would work out a couple times a Week and I noticed like my timing and everything was like much sharper because I was going through those pathways and not tense
Starting point is 01:31:00 You know I was going through those pathways so sharpening those lanes So like punch come slip counter all these things were like flowing in my head because we weren't hurting each other But it's so hard for young guys to understand that to get better is to like be playful with it You want to like the tie guys they just because they fight every week when they spar they don't hurt each other at all They touch and they they laugh like oh They like playing a little game with each other. You ever seen tie guys? Yeah, yeah, they have a good time. Like you watch, like one of the best things to watch
Starting point is 01:31:33 is like two elite high level tie guys just spar with each other. Just spar, playful light. Cause they're joking around and laughing and they're touching each other, but they're really working on that timing they're really working on those moves working on like seeing what's coming how to stop it how to get in on them but they're not hurting each other at all you know it's weird that
Starting point is 01:31:56 I'm older and I love doing crazy shit I love it I don't have much in the daytime no more so I'll try to catch a boxing class or Jiu Jitsu and all that shit. And Jiu Jitsu's the toughest one for me. Like I haven't been to Jiu Jitsu since November because I've been sick. You know, I had a bunch of problems. And I was on antibiotics, I was having a hard time fucking breathing.
Starting point is 01:32:16 But I can't wait to go back. But now I'm gonna go back and do it a little bit differently. Flow. Flow. A lot more flow. And there's one guy that'll flow with me, he's a cop. And drilling more.
Starting point is 01:32:29 If you have a blue belt class, it's basically a lot of drilling. You fucking burn a lot of calories in there. Drilling's so important. But you have to go, in the daytime, they roll a little bit more. At night, the classes are so shut that you don't have time to roll that long.
Starting point is 01:32:44 So I would rather drill a long time and then roll once and get the fuck out of that perfect for me You know, so even with boxing I don't let go box. I don't fucking go crazy I had the speed bag a little bit two rounds and I had the bag that moves around that burns ton of calories Then I hit the hard bag and I'm out of there seven three seven eight three minute rounds and I'm good You know what? I like to do I like to put on the Wu Tang clan and just fuck that heavy bag. I love it I love the earphones. I love all and I'll tell you what else I got into now I'm older because when I went to that hospital it taught me a lot Joe it reminded me that I wasn't a kid no more like we fuck around and we have a good time and we think we're bad motherfuckers, but
Starting point is 01:33:24 You want to stay healthy? Yeah, ever since I come out of the hospital a month ago. Everything's fucking changed Come out here Joey get you on that waste of well get you fucking healthy. I think we're going tomorrow Come on, we're going tomorrow. Are you busy tomorrow? If you're here, I'm not busy Alright, let's go tomorrow. We're good. I like that blood thing they did. Yes Do you get an IV bag? Yeah, no, that was a little one. It wasn't a big IV. Oh, so you're talking about a stem cell push. Push, yeah. IV stem cells, yeah. I just got that Tuesday. I brought Rich Voss in. How was he? He was great. I love that guy to death. I love him too. We had a good time. We had a good time at the club too. We see him. I see him a lot, you know. He, I see him every well He's Jersey to right. Yeah every Wednesday we meet up and do it. He's just we'd are loving the death
Starting point is 01:34:09 So he's been having a problem with rotator cuff people. So I brought him down to Brigham Brigham's got this crazy thing. I'm gonna show you this jam because it's fucking bananas He's got this crazy thing where he's got an AI that you ask questions to have you seen it Jamie it's fucking nuts right yeah I'll send this to you Jamie so Brigham has this new beautiful facility where Waste-A-Well is a great view. Oh, they moved? They moved. They have a new facility. OK. They bought a building and renovated it, and it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:34:49 But one of the things they have is this big screen with this alien. And you touch the alien and ask it a question, and it uses AI. So it has an AI, large language model base. Press this. press it. Hey, can you tell me the history of testosterone and prostate cancer? My doctor said he's worried it's going to cause prostate cancer.
Starting point is 01:35:15 What do you have to say? So the alien like thinks about it. The concern stems from a 1941 study by Huggins that suggested testosterone-fueled prostate cancer, but this has been thoroughly debunked by modern research, particularly by Dr. Abraham Morgentaler. Current evidence shows no causal relationship between testosterone therapy and prostate cancer development. In fact, many men with prostate cancer have low testosterone levels.
Starting point is 01:35:42 The updated theory misunderstood how testosterone interacts with prostate tissue, and numerous studies now show properly monitored testosterone therapy is safe for most men, even those with a history of prostate cancer in some cases. Now, check it out. Isn't that wild? That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:35:59 That's the future. It can answer any question. It could analyze your blood work. You could tell it, hey, my vitamin B12 level is this. My testosterone level is that. What would you suggest I take? What I suggest is a protocol of, and it would just rattle off things that you need.
Starting point is 01:36:17 You need some niacin in your system. Do you take magnesium before you go to bed? How much REM sleep are you getting per night? Are you monitoring that? And it starts talking to you. Isn't that crazy? It's an app too. It's on your phone. What were these people talking about last night at the club? They go on chat GPT or some shit? You don't know what that is? No. I don't know nothing. Chat GPT is AI. It's like it's on your phone. Like you can ask it a question. You know, like, I can like, give me a good question.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Who was the composer of Swanee River? Who was the composer of Swanee River? So you see on my phone has all those rainbows on the outside like that. That means it's searching for the answer. And boom, gives me the answer. Can you go on chat DPT and tell me more about Stephen Foster the composer of Swanee River? Bam. And then it goes on chat GPT. I'm an AI design assistant. Feel free to ask anything.
Starting point is 01:37:22 What Disney movies are the most racist? I'm working with Chad GPT right now. It hung up on me. The reason why I asked, Joe that is one. Chad GPT told me to go fuck myself. It disconnected. One of the greatest episodes, you were talking to me a couple weeks ago, we were talking about you watched the Gleason interview on 60 Minutes. Yes, yes. You know I watch the honeymooners every Saturday. Do you really? Every Saturday at midnight.
Starting point is 01:37:59 I don't have time for anything else. I got to be home by midnight on Saturdays, okay? And then the reason why I said Swanee River to you is that is one of the best episodes that Gleason ever did he was going on the $95,000 question and you have to go up levels. Yeah, and they asked you questions. He picked music So he had his buddy Norton get all the sheet music and Norton would play music for him and go Who is this and he would have to say and then the Italian lady miss Manicotti would come down It was a great episode, but there's one scene where Norton would play and he go Norton. Why the fuck do you? There it is
Starting point is 01:38:41 Why the fuck do you play this? Watch this. Come on! Look at that thing! This is my last night to brush up on the songs. Now let's not waste any time. Get going. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Will you wait a minute, please? Why must you always play... Da da da da da da da da before you go in and play the song I'm trying to guess? If I told you once, I told you a hundred times, it's the only way I can warm up before I play the piano. A pitcher warms up before he pitches a ball game? I gotta warm up that way before I play the piano. I hope I don't have to tell you this again.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Are you ready? Go ahead and play. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. All right, now go to the end so Joe can see it.
Starting point is 01:39:39 So he goes. Time's running out, hurry up, you better take a guess. No, play the song for him so he sees. Uh. Uh. Uh. $100, are you ready? I certainly am. He goes times running out hurry up. You better take a guess not play the song from so he sees Dollars are you ready? I certainly am. All right, mr. Cramden for $100 who is the composer of Swannay River? This face, bro. Swanny River.
Starting point is 01:40:08 That's right, Swanny River. Can we have a few bars of Swanny River, Jose? That's Swanny River. That's right. Now, who's the composer? Your time's running out. Hurry up. You better take a guess. Hummer, hummer, hummer, hummer, hummer. I guess. I guess.
Starting point is 01:40:25 I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. Ednaughton. Ednaughton.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Ednaughton. Oh, I'm terribly sorry, Mr. Cramden. No, the correct answer is Stephen Foster. But thanks so much. You've been a wonderful contestant and a swell sport. Goodbye, Mr. Cramden. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Goodbye. Goodbye. His fucking face, dog. The 60-minute interview was great, wasn't it? Oh my God, it blew me the fuck away. It was great. Just listening to him talk. That was when he was just playing golf and drinking. He had that crazy golf cart that he would drive around in. What's the book I read where he taught Richard Pryor how to smoke pot, like how to hide it?
Starting point is 01:41:06 They did a movie, The Toy, right? They do The Toy. He taught him how to hide it? Yeah, because Richard Pryor lit a joint up one day and he's like, what are you doing? Come on, you got to have some class. How do you hide it? You know, under your hand and mix it with the cigar. Richard was smoking it out and Jackie Gleason goes, what are you doing, man?
Starting point is 01:41:23 Come on, nice, smoke it like this. Richard Price, this motherfucker taught me how to smoke a joint. So he would tuck it away. And he was 20 years old. Yeah. Jackie Gleason was a fucking beast, man. That guy partied.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Beast, darling. He did a lot of partying. He died fairly young, you know. How old was he? I wanna say close to 60. I think it was a couple different kinds of cancer How old was he when he died Jamie yeah Was he oh
Starting point is 01:42:04 71 oh, which is still no that's still the national I was 74 right? Yeah, I thought he died younger than that. No But yeah hard-living hard-living yeah, you ever hear a story about him and Richard Nixon No, Richard Nixon him were getting drunk one night Richard Nixon goes you want to see some UFOs and so he they get on Air Force One and they fly to one of the Air Force bases where they have this fucking crashed UFO and alien bodies on ice They fly to one of the Air Force bases where they have this fucking crashed UFO and alien bodies on ice Jackie Gleason apparently becomes obsessed with UFOs after this has a house built in upstate New York That looks like a UFO his house was a flying saucer. He had a house built to look like a UFO and The story is unsubstantiated it's hard to know if it's true, but it was like his ex-wife told it in some magazine, right?
Starting point is 01:42:51 But it tracks. It tracks with, if you believe these people that say that there was some sort of a crash, that they did recover, then they do have bodies. So this is his fucking house. He has a house built. That's one image of it, but there's other images of what looks even more like a flying saucer. I'm wild. That kind of looks normal like a house there though, but the guy built a flying saucer house.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Nixon and him got hammered. I'm hoping that's gonna happen with me and Trump, but Trump doesn't get drunk. You imagine you're hanging out with Trump happen with me and Trump, but Trump doesn't get drunk. You imagine you're hanging out with Trump. He's like, you want to say the UFO? Can you keep a secret? Yeah, there he is hanging out with Nixon. And they supposedly do have something that crashed and they supposedly do have biological entities that
Starting point is 01:43:44 are on ice somewhere. That is according to these whistleblowers that work for the government and now we're talking about, I just don't know what's real. It's hard to know. When you talk about it, you feel like a moron because it's like... There's got to be something out there. We've got to assume there's something out there, whether or not, I don't even know. Right, but should we assume that something's been here yeah yeah yeah I
Starting point is 01:44:08 think so yeah they've been here well I would come here if I was from somewhere else and I was like what do we you know imagine if you're like from some super advanced civilization that's completely abandoned war there's no thievery everybody reads everybody's minds there's no thievery. Everybody reads everybody's minds. There's no unfairness because they've worked all that stuff out. And it's just superior intellect because everybody's evolved for a million years past where we are now. And you get the opportunity to see what a breakthrough civilization looks like right when they're figuring out nuclear power, right when they're figuring out flight and war and cell phones and shit like that. Like that would be like you and I going back
Starting point is 01:44:47 and going and visiting the real wild west. Like being in like a gold mining town in 1830. You know how nuts that would be? You know how fucking crazy, be one of the minor 49ers in 1849, going all the way to San Francisco and these fucking animals stabbing each other in saloons like you know what that would be like? The kind of barbarians that took a chance with wooden wheels getting pulled by a horse and went across mountain ranges to try
Starting point is 01:45:19 to get to the gold. That would be like us going to visit that. Of course we would visit that. to the gold. That would be like us going to visit that of course we would visit that. Of course, like if you had a chance to see what it would like to see Christopher Columbus land in the Bahamas to see what that must have been like, of course you would want to see it. If you could go literally back in time and see primitive humans. Well, if they're just like us, but they're like us millions of years from now, of course they would want to visit us.
Starting point is 01:45:45 It would be so interesting. You imagine if there was a planet where we could go, where we could see cavemen. We could go. Would you imagine? Of course we would. Fucking muskets got us in an hour. Yeah. Put it shy.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Well, you can see guys making fucking arrowheads with Flint for the first time and strapping them with sticks, giant fucking heads and big teeth Yeah covered in hair just figuring out tools. Oh my god We would be fascinated by those people the way I think about it is listen since I'm a kid we're talking about Martians And aliens right since I'm fucking yeah, six seven I've been hearing about this the moon landing was in 69 mm- So I was six. So it started after that. Like I heard more and more about it. So what you mean to tell me is in 55 years we haven't found out more information about it. We know. We know what's going on. We know. NASA's not
Starting point is 01:46:36 stupid. They know something's out there. They play with us a little bit from time to time. But there's something out there, my friend. I think so too. There's something out there. I think the other problem with the president knowing you know can they keep things from the president? Of course they can. The president is only there for four years and then he has to get in there again and if he wins he's only there for four more years. These fucking people have 30 year careers, 50 year careers in the intelligence agencies. If they know something and they've known something since you know fucking Gerald Ford why would they tell you something since, you know, fucking Gerald Ford, why would they tell you?
Starting point is 01:47:07 Why do you need to know? We've already been hiding this from the population for so long. And those old timers didn't need a, what's that, you have to sign something? NDA. NDA, like, whatever the fuck. Yeah, there was no NDAs back then. There was no NDAs back then. So there was something to it.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Yeah. There was something to it. You know, you got that place in New Mexico you got Hudson County what I discussed before with the Martians land you have all these places that have a higher volume I wonder what's number two in UFO sightings I wonder what's number one what's number one Hudson Valley yeah yeah George Washington Bridge that whole thing that's crazy that's number one I wonder what number two number three and number The Hudson Valley? Yeah, the Hudson Valley by the George Washington Bridge, that whole thing. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:47:46 I wonder why that? That's number one. I wonder what number two, number three, and number four is. It's interesting that a lot of them are over near where the ocean is, because that's one of the big theories, that they have bases in the ocean, because the reality of the ocean is no one's looking. If you have something on Earth, satellites can see it. Like if you have something that's in the middle of Nevada, in some deserted area, and you have
Starting point is 01:48:11 buildings, satellites can see that they can see the structures. So you have to hide them. But if you have something in the ocean, nobody sees anything. We've only explored what is the percentage of the ocean floor that we have to explored? I think it's like 10%. I think it's somewhere around 10, maybe 20%. So that means that 80% of the ocean floor is undiscovered. We have no idea what's down there. And it's, you know, a mile, two miles deep in some spots.
Starting point is 01:48:39 If you're from a super sophisticated civilization, that's millions of light years away, and you can come here instantaneously and you have the ability to traverse in these what they call transmedium craft which means they can go through air and go through water just it creates a gravity bubble around it and go through everything that's what they think these things are doing that's what they can go 500 knots underwater just like nothing we have could do that and if they have bases under the ocean it makes sense that these sightings are all near the ocean just totally makes sense Yeah, I love going to a beach and just sitting on the beach 2030 seabed 2030 what they've mapped up. They've gotten 30% map. They're trying to get the whole thing done by
Starting point is 01:49:26 2030 oh really oh interesting. Oh, what if they find a base? What if they get down there, and they find bases? What is all that stuff? What are those lines? I'm guessing that's where they probably sent their drones probably whoa Six looks a pool scrubber. You know oh, that's crazy So they're scouring the ocean floor to try to get a met. That's why the aliens are gonna come out. Wow, that's Hawaii Whoa, that's not why here it is. What's that? What are those islands in the middle? Is that Catalina? Oh, I see Oh you resumed in yeah. Oh, okay This stuff is I think these little like color brown spots are what's sticking up and the rest of its underneath
Starting point is 01:50:06 Mmm. Wow. I gotta pee real quick. Go ahead dog. We'll pause. Yeah, we'll be right back folks Whoa, and we're back. What were we just talking about? Aliens and whatnot and whatnot. Yeah, you know, I feel that we know we just not gonna you know, it's like everything else man We know who shot Kennedy. We're not gonna release it, you know, it's like everything else man. We know who shot Kennedy We're not gonna release it, you know, we're gonna play with us. That's what they do. I think that they would be a I think even after all the Alien talk and everything I think Americans couldn't really handle it Well, there was actually a discussion this guy how put off who was a physicist that worked with the US government told me that during
Starting point is 01:50:44 The Bush administration they actually wanted to talk about the potential of disclosure to the American people, what would be the pros and the cons. And so they listed what could be disrupted. Well, the economy could be disrupted, religion could be disrupted, government could be disrupted. What would be the positive aspects? And they started looking at the positive aspects like scientific development, the understanding that we're not alone, you know, and then they weighed it all out. And the cons outweighed the pros by a significant number.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And so they decided not to disclose it. This is what Hal Puthoff says. So he is a scientist that's worked with the government for decades. And he, you know, I had dinner with him and Jacques Vallee. Jacques Vallee is the guy who the character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind was based on, the French guy, the scientist. Jacques Vallee has been studying UFOs since like, I think the 50s. Brilliant, brilliant guy.
Starting point is 01:51:38 He's written tons of books on the subject. And the stories that he knows that he's aware of the historical stories, which really gets crazy is when they get into like the 1700s and the 1800s and the early 19th, there's the same stories, people are seeing the same things, the same kind of things are happening these people, the people that are encountering the crafts and encountering the beings, they're reporting the same stories, they're real similar similar to the point where you're like, what's going on? And if it's real unique in like, you know, I haven't been I haven't seen UFO. I haven't seen aliens, you haven't Jamie hasn't. But what if one of us did? Like if there's millions and millions and millions
Starting point is 01:52:16 of people and one guy is fucking walking his dog in the middle of a field, and all of a sudden this thing just lands right in front of them, and no's around and then these things get out and they look at you and they're talking to you with their mind and then they get back on their ship and they fucking disappear. They zoom off so fast you can't even follow with your eyes and then you're sitting there going, what the fuck do I tell anybody? Who's going to believe me? Who's going to believe this? I should probably not tell anybody.
Starting point is 01:52:45 And then you're lying in bed at night, you're all freaked out, because you can't believe you know something that other people don't know. You know the most incredible thing. That not only are they real, but they can do things that we can't possibly do. They cannot be us. There's something different. It's a different life form. I think when they came here, maybe somebody painted them as green or whatever me I feel that if they're here they walk around Looking like us. There are there are more Intelligent life source like the movie cocoon, right?
Starting point is 01:53:17 That's in my mind and and to just I'm gonna type of guy. I'll talk to invasion of the body snatchers Yeah invasion of body snatchers. I'm gonna type of guy. I'll talk to you, but I've been just talking to you just now about Somebody the government telling me the aliens exist I would it would knock me down because I know they do right but not really but not really but not really I know they do but not really and that's I think with everything Yeah, so it would even shock me a little bit to find out but I think that yeah cocoon type people Jacques Valet is of that opinion too. Like what's interesting about him is he really maintains scientific credibility after all these years despite
Starting point is 01:53:56 Like studying UFOs at a back in the time where if you studied UFOs, you were a crackpot But everything he looked at was just based on logic this is what we know and this is what we don't know this is what we can prove this is what we can prove and we estimate that there's a certain percentage of these experiences whether it's 5% or what that are legitimate there's a great number the vast majority of things that people see in the sky are not UFOs no I guarantee we do do see things that we think is something else and it's a UFO. I could see that happening also.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Oh yeah, people see the Saturn, they think Saturn's a UFO. People see things too. And then there's also weird phenomenon that's real, like ball lightning. Ball lightning is a type of lightning that like juts around like a ball like a fucking like a giant soft ball of lightning just darting around the sky and then it goes away. And it's just it's just a weird form of lightning that is has been documented. But if you saw that if you were in the middle of like New Mexico by yourself camping you saw that like fuck man, you think it's a fairy or something like that. Oh my god, man, angels are back here on mushrooms and you see ball lightning like what the
Starting point is 01:55:08 fuck man you're seeing traces behind the ball lightning you would 100% believe and feel like you came in contact with an angel you would believe and feel like something from another planet communicated with you you'd probably fill your head up with all this important shit that it told you that you have to Tell people I've got to tell people man. We're doing it all wrong. We're all one man. We're all one We can't be fighting these wars. It's so foolish and they want us to know they want us to take care of Mother Earth Meanwhile, you just saw a ball lightning while you're on mushrooms
Starting point is 01:55:41 You know when I lived in Boulder I got into a Hole I was talking to some guy he's told me about mermaids. Oh God. I had a coffee shop and it drove me fucking crazy. It drove me so crazy I didn't have a computer back then but I actually had to go to the library and I went down a hole and maybe ten years ago I went online one night and got high and was reading about mermaids like that's something I believed in. The dumbest thing about mermaids is they have a fish from the waist down right but the weren't they actually spotted in the 1800 somewhere Was this a lie?
Starting point is 01:56:15 It don't even make any sense Like fish don't have sex you fucking idiot that means it's the most beautiful one in the world for the from the waist up and all She do is give you blowjobs because fish don't have sex. That's okay. That's not my problem I'm not looking to have sex with a chick, but people are they want to fall in love with the mermaid But like that's the craziest person to fall in love with. Is there any evidence? No, come on. No, they're manatees These people saw manatees Probably their eyesight sucked because they all had scurvy. You know, they were all fucking starving to death. They all had syphilis. Their faces are falling off. These rotten scumbags that are on these boats together. And then they, they're so
Starting point is 01:56:52 horny that they want to fuck manatees. They see manatees in the, the foggy water flopping around. I swear it's a girl with a tail. And they want to hop off. They're like, like a guy in the desert that sees an oasis that's not there I see water and you just try to drink the sand that's what it is it's guys that are gotta be so these horny scumbags from like Europe in the 1500s these monsters they were on this boat together for four months and they think they see women in the water. God damn it, you just ruined everything. They were probably on opium, they probably had syphilis, they were drunk. That's why you gotta love the 80s.
Starting point is 01:57:34 Animals. That's why you gotta love the 80s because two guys actually went into the studio and go, look, we got a movie about a fucking guy who falls in love with a mermaid. And the guy's like, come on come on how you gonna do that? All of a sudden it's fucked. Let me tell you something that's another good movie. Do you know Joey that's a good point like this is one of the reasons why America became what it is is that everybody who moved here initially took a crazy chance. You ought to take a crazy chance you ought to get in a boat in the
Starting point is 01:58:07 1700s and make your way across the Atlantic Ocean You have no idea if storms are coming. There's no fucking weather calm You don't even know what it looks like over here because they don't have pictures yet Someone's gonna draw you this is what I saw when I visit Maryland Told you there's a fucking mermaid you fuck fucking fake thing I'm onto a monkey's body. Oh Jesus Christ. That's hilarious That's one of the reasons why America became so powerful. To the two things, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, like that
Starting point is 01:58:52 stuff, all the laws that gave you freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, the right to practice your own religion, all those things are incredible. But also the type of people that moved here, crazy risk-taking motherfuckers that were willing to get their kids and get on a boat and make it across the country. So everybody that came over here was just fucking gung-ho. They're all wild folk, wild, dangerous people trying to get jobs on the East Coast.
Starting point is 01:59:19 That's still to this day why the East Coast is so crazy, so chaotic and so fun. Because that was like the echoes of these pioneering monsters that travel their way across the ocean, the crazy people desperate for anything. Europe just suck so bad. Like we got to get the fuck out of here. Whether it's from Spain or Ireland or where they boats, just boats, Italians boats, and then they make their way across the land and then, you know, or Ireland or where they boats just boats Italians boats and
Starting point is 01:59:45 Then they make their way across the land and then you know cover the whole thing eventually and in a few hundred years it's a crazy story man and We got to be careful of this place. You can't sacrifice The things that made us so great in terms of our freedom just for political gain, because then we're gonna give the whole thing away. And we could go the same way Iran's going, the same way they were, they had a like a European style country, and now it's a dictatorship, and now it's Islamic, and you know, there's no getting out of that now without some crazy revolution right? It could go that way anywhere man. If there's people anywhere on earth in 2025 living under the thumb of tyranny there can be people here. It's just a bunch of things
Starting point is 02:00:36 have to go wrong. We saw a few things go wrong during COVID that should have woke a lot of people up that the fabric of society is more fragile than you think it is. And that's why the founding fathers are so wise. They put into play protections to keep tyranny from taking over. They had a bunch of checks and balances that you can't get through. You don't have ultimate power like a king. You have Congress, you have the Senate, you have the Supreme Court. It's got to be like that.
Starting point is 02:01:07 You can't change that just because you want your side to win. Everybody has to be aware of that. Everybody gets short-sighted. Democrats get short-sighted on this, Republicans get short-sighted on this. You can't have that happen. It's not good for anybody. It's not good for us. If you think your opinions and your beliefs and
Starting point is 02:01:25 what you know is more beneficial to the American people, state your case. That should be the only thing we do. These people should be able to state their case, explain how what you can do. We should demand that. And all that other shit, stop it. Just get rid of it. Get rid of all of it. Get rid of all of it. No one should be pro-crime. No one should be letting people off the hook for violent crimes. No one should be like letting gang members live in some sanctuary city from another country that come over here just to cause havoc and create crime because we have weak policing and because we let them in. No one,
Starting point is 02:02:03 no side should want that. No side should want the country to be more dangerous, you know? And no side should want people deported to El Salvador prisons that aren't really gang members either. No side should want no due process. No side should want the ability of the government to like, imagine like you're a person who's over here illegally, but you're not a criminal. You're just a guy who doesn't have paperwork.
Starting point is 02:02:24 And then they send you to prison somewhere. Someone decides because of your tattoos that you're in a gang so now all of a sudden you're in a prison in another country and you haven't even been to trial we can't let that happen either you know did you see that fucking prison where they took them in nicaragua whatever that place in el salvador el salvador where they house them 40 and that's crazy that's fucking it insane. That's insane. And apparently they have unmarked graves. They, you know, people die, they get strangled, whatever, take them to the back, unmarked grave. You know, it's complete dehumanizing of people as a overcorrection to having too much crime and gang violence. So too much
Starting point is 02:03:01 crime and gang violence, then you throw all due process out the window, round everybody up, throw them all in jail. And if you're going to do that, a certain percentage of them are pro I mean, it's going to be effective, you're definitely going to curb crime. But you're also going to victimize a few innocent people, a certain percentage of innocent people, like undoubtedly, especially if you have a new due process. Listen, man, we know that. Like this is, this can't come to America, you know, and if we're sending our prisoners over there, how much different is that than the other stuff that we hate, like sending jobs overseas where people work for a dollar a day and don't get health care, we would never allow that in America, right? Well, we would never allow this kind of a prison in America either. So should we really be
Starting point is 02:03:48 involved in sending people to this kind of a prison if they're from another country? You know, it's an interesting question. I think there's something, there is a bit of a problem, right, if you come from one country and then they put you in a prison in another one without a trial If they say you're a gang member and you're in ms-13 you come from Mexico you make your way into American Alts And they put you in El Salvador prison. You're like yo what happened here? Now that's a lot of they took a handful of people that had weird tattoos and stuff like that That's what I've heard, but I don't really know the truth. No, you don't know the truth.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Because they were saying that they keep talking about this guy in the mainstream media, saying he's a Maryland father and this and that, but then that Tom Homan guy says, no, he's a member of MS-13. And so, okay, who's telling the truth? And they were saying that if he got deported and came back into this country again illegally,
Starting point is 02:04:43 we would round him up again and do it all over again. We didn't make a mistake. Okay. Well, who's telling the truth? Is he just a normal man that's mistaken identity? Where's his police record? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 02:04:57 Let me see his police record. If the guy has a tattoo and he's got no police record, he's got a family and a wife and blah, blah, blah. It's like, remember the week you used to take me for chicken which place by your old house 20 years ago you used to always invite me for check oh chicks yes oh how good was that place he had that that wood-fired rotisserie absolutely only pay cash no credit card credit that would that's what killed him so think about this what if he had that for 20 years great guy because I always went up there with you
Starting point is 02:05:25 He was very nice great guy. What if they came and got him cuz you didn't have a green card He was he was a legal so no no, but he was illegal. He was legal. He was legal, you know, there's people second generation Okay, there's people that came and you know, they're here before I send actually I think he was more than second generation Yeah, I want to make sure sure this guy had roots in the community I'm not gonna just put him on a fucking yeah it's the but the I think what you got to do is just get rid of criminals only but the only way to know if someone's a criminal is to have due process but it's not over a fucking tattoo no it's due process is due process I want because there's a lot of kids get stupid tattoos. Yeah, and then you have them fucking know, you know when I went to Japan
Starting point is 02:06:09 I couldn't work out in the gym in the hotel They made me go up to my room put a long cleaved shirt on because of my sleeves You can't have open tattoos and work out at like a nice place because it's connected to the Yakuza And work out at like a nice place because it's connected to the Yakuza Yeah, so like you you have to you have to follow their rules. You know they demand that you follow the rules That's crazy. Yeah, I Can't I can't throw somebody back in the fucking prison like that just because of a tattoo. I gotta see something Yeah, I see something he did something to disrupt the system. Yeah, I just see the thing is I don't know I really don't know. I don't know the truth of these cases because you get a
Starting point is 02:06:52 Biased take from one side oftentimes and then you get a biased take from the other side and they're duking it out to Shape reality for you now in 85 I lived in San Francisco And I teamed up with a bunch of Cubans that came in 79 the Mario boat live and you know you went over there every day and I had to buy the old guy the guy that ran the corner I had to buy him a little bottle of rum a half pint and he would let you operate your game whatever your game was selling weed whatever but my point of the story is that I remember this specifically but from the time I got there to the time I left there was probably 80 Cubans on the
Starting point is 02:07:29 block maybe 20 of them got arrested in those days you got arrested you got deported like the following week if you got arrested they put you in jail if you didn't have paperwork or you came in that Cuban thing yeah it would take you right immigration would come get you within 72 fucking hours and you'd be right back in Cuba and Fidel would shoot you. See it's one thing if you arrest someone for a crime and then you deport them, I get that, but it's another thing when you're rounding up people because you think they look suspicious. Like during the first Trump administration, there's this dude who was a contractor who was doing something for my house.
Starting point is 02:08:07 And he was an Army veteran. I think he was in for 20 plus years and worked at a management position at a big construction firm. So he did like a prestigious job. He was like a legit guy. So he's at Home Depot and he's dressed nice, You know, polo shirt on, nice slacks. He looks like a guy who has money. These ICE guys pull him over and demand that he show them their paperwork.
Starting point is 02:08:37 And you know, he's like, what the fuck are you guys doing? And he says that to them. And then he pulls out his Army you know, army ID and, you know, his driver's license. He's like, you can't do this. You can't just come up to people because I'm a fucking American citizen. He goes, I was born in America and I served my country for 25 years. And you fucking idiots are just going to harass me in the parking lot because my family is of Spanish descent, the fuck away from me. And, you know, he was hot and he came to the house right from there. It was telling me about this. I was like, God damn, because you're this guy's like.
Starting point is 02:09:15 Gentlemen businessman, like sweetheart of a guy. Wonderful to talk to, great to do business with, have a conversation with them. Great guy. They just looked at him because he's brown. Like that's it. There's no way you could make any other way you're going to point to that guy and think he's an illegal. That guy's driving a brand new Silverado with a construction logo on the side of it. Shiny clean car, polo shirt, slacks, clipboard in hand, fuck you. That's what I'm worried about. I'm not worried about guys that get arrested.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Doug, I was worried when they came to Jersey. I didn't go out that week. I didn't do much. I'm a D-ass. I don't know. Well, I'm glad they didn't deport you. I didn't know, but you never, listen. Right, but if you did get arrested for a crime,
Starting point is 02:10:04 you probably now would say, yeah, you should get dep deported like if you did a violent crime. Yeah. Yeah, take me back But there's a difference between getting arrested for a violent crime and just going to Home Depot cuz you're brown That's great. That's crazy and on this hall this ice hall listen You're picking up. I don't know how many thousands of people, correct? How many people did they pick up on this hall? I do not know. But they shipped back. I do not know.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Doug, you're going to have a couple clerical errors. Well you're going to have... You always... Listen... More than that. Even the computer will pick them. Yeah. You know, it's just a clerical error.
Starting point is 02:10:41 But there's also... Just be big enough to say say we made a clerical error Don't keep saying that I know you're a gang member because you got a fucking tattoo Well, the thing is like that we don't know what's correct, right? But there's not just clerical errors if you don't have due process you also have the potential for people to potentially falsely accuse someone on purpose just so they could arrest him because they don't like them or they have a bad business dealing with them or There's some reason why they want to send this motherfucker to show him to El Salvador people are crazy They do shit like that all the time If you just rounding people up and you this guy that you fucking hate happens to be from
Starting point is 02:11:18 Nicaragua and you just fucking sick sick the dogs on them If you've got a hotline when people can call and a rat on people, people are rats. There's a lot of rats, especially if you just have a wild number that you can call wild number to turn people in. Remember during COVID? Like they were they were giving people rewards for turning people in for having parties in LA. And the mayor was saying normally snitches get stitches, but now they get rewards Do you remember that yeah that retarded mayor that they had in LA during the entire time?
Starting point is 02:11:51 I don't even remember he was such a high Los Angeles Los Angelenos. Oh That guy yeah My favorite thing was when Black Lives Matter protested in front of his house like you're never woken up bitch Well, this is my problem. This guy. Yeah that guy. What the fuck is his name? Carcetti.
Starting point is 02:12:12 Oh God. What a tool. LACity.org slash business violation. Does he say the snitches usually get stitches? Say it in the beginning. I don't know where he says it. I think it's in the beginning. I want to make sure that everybody continues to let us know where those folks are if
Starting point is 02:12:29 you've observed recurring violations of the safer at home order please continue to let us know at coronavirus LA city org business violation you know the old expression about snitches well in this case snitches get Rewards we want to thank you for turning folks in and making sure we are all safe You should go to jail for saying that I'm explaining you fucking monster Do process has been my problem since all this shit started and it started with even the cancer culture Okay, do process you got to come at me and let me know everything just because you opened up your mouth And said that 22 years ago at a party. I kissed you. I tried to kiss you. I ain't good enough
Starting point is 02:13:17 That just ain't good enough. Well, I went home and called my girlfriend Diane We'll get her on the fucking stand too, but I don't I believe in due process I'll do whatever time you want me to do prove that I did it Just don't open up your fucking mouth. Absolutely But when you have something like I'm asking for you to turn people in for anything people gonna go nutty and start ratting on people That's just what they do. You can't get away from that You can't have snitches get rewards Like if you have that for immigration you got a real problem. You got a real problem because there's legit scumbag racists out there that'll find people and start targeting them. People SWAT people all the time. You know
Starting point is 02:13:56 what that is? They fucking call 911 and say someone's being held hostage at Joey Diaz's house at gunpoint and then the SWAT team shows up and you might not know what's going on so you might pull out a fucking gun and get shot. Yeah I've heard of that. Where college students are doing it. People are doing it all the time. It happens there was a bunch of conservative online people that were getting swatted recently. It's wild shit dude. You know you give people this ability with social media or even more so if you like anonymously tip people that people are immigrants here illegally like boy that's gonna be a problem if that ever
Starting point is 02:14:38 happens. And that could just be a woman who owns a fucking fruit stand and a Mexican owns a fruit stand down the corner and she could just call and go, listen, this guy's illegal. There's people that are excited that people are getting deported like be fucking careful. Be careful what you wish for. You don't want more people searching for people to lock up. And then here's the thing, like any other business, once you start getting numbers, you don't want those numbers to drop off.
Starting point is 02:15:04 You don't want the job to go away You know you got a quota right if you got a quota There's if there's a quote I don't know if there is a quota But there's a quota for how many immigrants we're gonna send back You gotta have a problem because then now you've made it a game and now I'm trying to score points and if Joey Gets 30 guys. I want to get 50 guys fuck Joey. Yeah, I got 50 I think a few of them might not be guilty, but fuck it Okay
Starting point is 02:15:29 I hit the bonus. Yeah, fuck them. They should all go back anyway agreed agreed Yeah This is fucking idiots in this world There's a lot of people that they're short-sighted and by giving if there is I'm not saying there is a quota But if there is a quota you're giving people a game to play now You don't want to play games with people. Why don't you even on ticket quotas? There's a percentage that they know They're gonna get beat Like yeah, if I give you ten tickets eight of them are gonna be good
Starting point is 02:15:58 Two of them are gonna be he's gonna come up with an attorney right this The wind was blowing and you know, I always said that like what we do See, this is a problem with the government that they're exposed with this Department of Government Efficiency And I had heard about this before for my friends were that were in the military That like if you get a budget for the year if you don't spend all of that money Your budget is gonna be reduced next year. You don't want that to happen. So you spend money wildly, completely inefficiently. And I think that's part of the problem that we're facing here. It's like they don't want to lose out on any of this money. They've been getting this money this way for so long.
Starting point is 02:16:38 You're right. If they don't use it, that's right. The budget goes down. Yeah, the budget goes down. They call that something. What is it called? Bullshit. I don't know what is it called? What is it called? I had a point but I forgot what my point is.
Starting point is 02:16:53 But it's just that, you know, we're in a weird time here where people are arguing about whether or not we should abandon core principles that made this country great. Like very intelligent liberal people with degrees are talking about the First Amendment should have restrictions. Like no no no no no you don't get to decide you don't get to decide because without free speech I don't know who's right. And I can't just go on narratives. It's too. That's what that's how religions work. That's how cults work.
Starting point is 02:17:30 They make you go on a very specific narrative and you can't go outside the lines. If you want to the human race to evolve, if you want people to evolve culturally, if you want people to communicate better, they got to be able to say whatever they want. And then you decide if you want to communicate with people that speak differently than you. And if you think that they have an egregious position, you're allowed to say something about it, and you talk about it, and everybody has to figure out who's right and who's wrong. And unless that's able to go on, you're never gonna get to the truth. And if you just cut that off for things that you find offensive,
Starting point is 02:18:05 to the truth. And if you just cut that off for things that you find offensive, the problem is maybe I don't find it offensive and you can't decide what I can take in and not take in. You're not allowed to because I don't know you and you don't know me. This is nonsense. Like you got to give human beings the ability to discern for themselves. The only way for them to truly do that is they got to be able to communicate openly and they were trying to stop that during the Biden administration they were putting the fucking brakes on all kinds of shit that people are allowed to talk to and everybody's like yeah we got to stop this information like you're you're signing your own fucking death warrant you don't even know it you're giving away the only thing that we have left.
Starting point is 02:18:47 Taking a vitamin. It's called cardio NAD. I'm taking something else. That's called like Colins. They gave it to me after my lung thing. And my lung feels a lot better. You know what the doctor told me when he told me to take the one supplement? What?
Starting point is 02:19:01 They took it off the market during COVID. Why'd they do that? Because it's such a great lung supplement. What? They took it off the market during COVID. Why did they do that? Because it's such a great lung supplement. Like I feel a lot better since I've been on it for five weeks. They took this off the internet and everything. They shut down their website for three years. Oh my god. So that sounds so crazy that if you had said this to me before COVID, I would like to always crazy. Stop talking like that, man. I was so pro pharmaceutical drugs back then, like as the cure all to everything and modern medicine and vaccinations are so important. And COVID woke me the fuck up. When I found out that
Starting point is 02:19:38 they were trying to stop doctors and take away their licenses, if they prescribed ivermectin. Take away your license if you just prescribe off-label a drug that people say is beneficial in certain trials but you're for some reason you're not allowed to do for the first time ever doctors are prohibited from prescribing something off-label that has no negative side effects time ever doctors are prohibited from prescribing something off label that has no negative side effects. It's never happened before. Never happened before where there's a public
Starting point is 02:20:10 Psyop where they're trying to pretend that it's horse dewormer so nobody will take it. It's bizarre. And they did it right in front of our face. And they just did it for money. And the fucking media went along with it and so did the liberals the liberals went along with it and they parroted out everything they say safe and effective it saved millions of lives when no look people are dropping like flies to the left and the right of them people are stroking out on the subway and everyone's pretending that's nothing's wrong everyone's pretending this drop in all cause, this increase in all cause mortality isn't
Starting point is 02:20:49 crazy. That's not weird. It's not weird that cancer is on a skyrocketing rate. That's not weird to you. Everyone's pretending and if you bring it up you're a kook. They tricked everybody into being the cop. Everybody is calling that Garcetti hotline. Everybody's a little rat. They're all little rats. They're little rats working for the man, and they'll rat on each other, and then if something happens to them because of it, they keep their mouth shut, because they don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 02:21:22 So they like do the work of the man for the man because they're suckers. Isn't that wild? And that, what we're talking about is the problem with this disclosure of aliens. Those people are going to fall apart. The people that fell apart in COVID. Oh, Jesus. They're going to be wearing silver jumpsuits and sucking alien dicks the moment those guys arrive. They will jump on Team Alien, they'll be rounding up people and using us for
Starting point is 02:21:54 slaves. They'll do whatever the aliens asked. They'll be like vampire familiars. Remember those where there was like a guy wasn't a vampire but wanted to be one so he'd do anything the vampire asked. That's what those fuck faces would do all those all the people that got nine boosters all those morons they'll they'll be like on team alien a hundred percent it is imperative that the human race perish it's imperative we're a blight on the world and the Anunnaki are gonna help us those fucking idiots they'll sell us right down a river. It's crazy what's going on in the world today my friend.
Starting point is 02:22:29 It is but there's, it always has to be crazy so we realize it's crazy so people snap out of it. Like this is the, this is a part of society. It's like it, there's not a linear path to success. What happens with societies is things go really well and then they go terrible and you either adjust or you don't. And if you don't, the civilization dies and then a new one emerges. But if you do, then you recover. And it's like how many times can you do that? How long can you keep this fucking thing going on? Because you're going to have like great prosperity, which makes soft people, you know, hard times makes hard men, hard men make soft times, soft times make soft men, soft men make hard times. And everybody knows that. That's what it is. It just is get, it go, it's just a matter of recognizing that
Starting point is 02:23:16 it's happening so you course correct. Which is why everybody's leaving California, they're not course correcting. They're going into madness and they're like, no, we're progressive. And then no, no, no, you're going into the rocks. No, no, no, the rocks will protect us. No, you're gonna die. You're going into madness and they're like new we're progressive and then no you're going into the rocks No, no, no, it's the rocks protect us. No, you're gonna die. You're gonna hit the rocks It's gonna be over just like there's no more Rome is gonna be no more LA like you fucking morons All right, there's the world is littered with civilizations that lost their way. You can go and find the ruins everywhere You know, this is they're gone. They went away. That's how it happens. Stupid. And you're doing it right now. And we recognize that or we don't. And
Starting point is 02:23:52 if we don't, it's not good. But I think we will. I think we have a different, you know, a different way of communicating now, because people can talk so much online. You're going to get a lot of stupid shit online. You get a lot of dumb things online, but you're also going to get a lot of conversations that make you think, that make you go, that actually makes sense. Like why are we assuming that the way we're doing it so far and the way we've been doing it is the only way to do it? What is wrong with this system?
Starting point is 02:24:23 How do we get the money out of it? How do we get the money out of politics? How do we get the number one corrupting factor out of figuring out what's best for all of us? Eat mushrooms talk to aliens I do sometimes when I think about it because I don't I go down roads. I don't want to think about it. I want to just enjoy my life. I'm scared for my daughter and the future. Everything else I got to fucking take a chance every goddamn day. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Well, that's also one of the benefits of a society with children.
Starting point is 02:24:58 A society with children wants to make sure that the future is safe. A society of people without children making rules don't give a fuck about kids. And there this some people actually openly disdainful of children and then they get into positions of government and power. That's not good. I think something happens to you when you have children that I think is an important biological sort of spiritual developmental cycle. There's something that happens to you when you realize this little person you love more than life itself,
Starting point is 02:25:30 and you're taking care of them now, and then you want the world to be a better place. And then you start thinking, oh, all these people around me used to be babies. They used to be babies. This is what, we're all in this weird journey, and like maybe we could all be a little nicer to each other. You know?
Starting point is 02:25:47 If that doesn't happen to you and you don't have kids, you don't have something that you love more than life itself. Yeah, it's a different, that's a different kind of thing. And if you want power when you're that person, that's a different kind of thing too. And especially if you're into war, if you're a war hawk and you don't have any kids like Jesus Christ, you're willing to send other people's kids overseas to die for some nonsense and you don't even know what that is like that's kind of crazy so we're in a society right now where we have a popular except for Elon we have a population decline people aren't having as much babies as they used to it just doesn't seem like it because there's so
Starting point is 02:26:23 many people but it's like a when they look at the numbers for the future we're in a kind of a weird population collapse thing. Like Japan is fucked. Have you seen any of that stuff on Japan? See if you can find anything on the Japanese population crisis. They're having so few children in Japan that like in three generations they could be in real trouble. Like the number of people that will have a grandchild right now is significantly lower than it ever has been before. That's your question? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:57 The fuck's it got to do with me? I don't give a fuck about the Japs. What the fuck is wrong with you Joe? Well I think about it with us. Because I think about it with like civilizations collapsing I think about it what we've been talking about the whole day. Yeah, but we don't have to worry about I know I know I know We don't have to worry about you're right. You're right. The first podcast I'm done, but I'm scared I'm saying what the fuck is wrong with you right enough with this shit. You're right politics enough
Starting point is 02:27:20 I know COVID is over if you took the needle, fuck you if you didn't. Now they just found out the fucking, uh, the flu shot don't work. I could have told you that 25 years ago. It makes you 25% more likely to get the flu. And I'm a GED type of fucking motherfucker. So knock it off. I hate all this shit. I'm scared. You know what I'm saying? The fuck? I'm scared too. Yeah, about Japan.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Listen man, that's what the problem is. We're worrying about this is what the internet fucked us. That's true. This is why we have retards walking around believing everything because, I forgot what I was going to tell you. The internet fucked us. The internet fucked us. It's too much information.
Starting point is 02:28:01 It's like this, I was in the hospital and I get on a fucking elevator and there's two three doctors, you know Half of fags in my world. Okay, and they're like, oh my god, we can't wait till the Kennedy report comes out Well, how is it gonna make a difference in your world? It's like these idiots with the Epstein list How is it gonna make a difference in your world if Tom Hanks is on that list? I'll tell you you don't have to go to work tomorrow? Do you have to do all the same shit? It doesn't that shit doesn't matter to me. I don't give a fuck who's on the Epstein list. I don't give a fuck what the Diddy's house. It's got nothing to do with me. But in today's world, because of the internet, it makes us think it's got something to do with us.
Starting point is 02:28:43 It has nothing to do with me it man. It's a show That's what it what the fucking show. I don't want to watch that show So now I gotta wait here 60 years. We've been watching the same footage. He got hit it clock back You know Lee Harvey out, but now we want to really fuck with these fucking peanut nimble-headed dummies that I like Well, I want to see what time there Then two days later the Jews did it. Believe me, just worry about paying your fucking credit card bills you fucking idiot. That's what you should worry about.
Starting point is 02:29:13 Did you see what happened this year in this country? Fucking millionaires are selling off fucking property to pay taxes to get capital. Are you fucking kidding me? And people are worried about the fucking Epstein list? Like how is it gonna change your life who fucking Tom Hanks is fucking in the ass? Who doesn't matter and do you really care at the end of the day? Do you really care about that 16 year old girl? No, you don't so shut the fuck up
Starting point is 02:29:39 Nobody cares. It's just a fucking show. It's a show. It's a show. It's like I told you about LA Yeah, you know, I was it's a compelling show. What's that fucking show with the crazy stony guy Seth Rogen? He just oh, I haven't seen it The studio okay, not a bad show not a bad show at all But I was watching that show and it let me realize what I hated Short small talk that shit we were talking about before where people just like well the idea contractor came over I love this guy came over to my house gonna do the garage And there was a moment of ten minutes that it was him and his son and me and my wife And we're just standing there and it just takes one guy to go all right
Starting point is 02:30:17 Back to work everybody because if not, we'll sit there for three hours, right? Right? How do I feel great? How was your trip? Listen, it doesn't fucking matter how my hospital stay was. Get in your truck, get the fuck out of here, and I'll get the fuck out of here. I go my way. You know, my wife, I hate her around when people come over because she always throw that curveball in. Like, tell them to look at the room. No, they don't need to look at the fucking room. Leave them in the fucking garage. If not, you're going to confuse these motherfuckers. You got to assume everybody is confused. You go to a restaurant, you get something wrong, everybody is not cooking on fucking,
Starting point is 02:30:51 you know. It's something I've never seen before. Every time I go somewhere, I'm like, how can they be that stupid? How could they not do this? You go to CVS, there's anywhere you go, it's like they're not even training people anymore. They're not even training people anymore. They're not even training people anymore. You know, I went somewhere the other day, I was at the mall, my daughter was hung, I go to P.F. Chang's.
Starting point is 02:31:13 P.F. Chang's, those type of restaurants, they used to train people. For two weeks, you don't get paid. You're in there learning shit. It's not like a regular restaurant where they're like, follow Joe Rogan around for a day and then fucking come back tomorrow and you're on your own. Dog, nobody's fucking, they don't know anything. These young kids today don't know anything. Nothing. You know a lot of them aren't even getting driver's licenses. They just uber everywhere. The kids don't want to learn how to drive. I don't want to learn how to drive. They don't
Starting point is 02:31:41 care. My friend was telling me his son's got a license for two years He's home every night We got a license. We left the house before we had the license. We're driving in New Hampshire Yeah, we had the car before we had the fucking license. Yeah, but listen I had you know People I went to a comedy show and a guy comedian was talking about kids and I'm like, I'm not gonna do that no more Because that's all of us. We all talk about when I was fucking 40 right when I was 28 you know I did this and I did that but these kids today are different and I've accepted it I've accepted it my neighborhood when I went back I was pissed for a few fucking months how come this is no kids playing this kids all over my fucking street and
Starting point is 02:32:22 my little cultus act there I got like eight fucking kids Mr. Softy comes with the only ones out there four in the afternoon. Where the fucking kids? And then I kids don't feel comfortable being unsupervised today You know you hear too much about kids being abducted and weird things happening to kids It's not like they could free-range like when we were kids It's like there's that that narratives out there everywhere and then some neighborhoods just aren't fucking safe. You should your kids shouldn't be out Now there's a lot of safe neighborhoods. Yeah kids don't play our neighborhood was that safe, but in unity there was strength There's a real problem with video games
Starting point is 02:33:02 Video games are so good. The kids don't want to go outside with video games. Video games are so good kids don't want to go outside. It's the fucking cell phone. That too. It's the cell phone and the computer. That too. It's so many things but I'm not I don't have a problem with it no more. That's what I'm trying to say to you. It's who they are now. It's who they are. You know I was reading something I just put this together. It's the truth. Remember a couple maybe a year ago they were talking about how low testosterone in these people? Yeah. Kids don't play no more. Well, they don't play, they don't go outside.
Starting point is 02:33:29 They don't run, they don't jump. They don't jump, and then they're eating garbage. So what do you think testosterone level's gonna be? And they have plastic in their brain. They said that they studied a bunch of people to see how much microplastic they had in their brain, and some people had as much as a plastic spoon. What? Imagine that you have so many micro plastics in your brain that if they
Starting point is 02:33:54 extracted it all, you can make a plastic spoon. So of course, that's gonna wreck your fucking testosterone too. And then I saw this thing about call of duty some fucking insane statistic about the amount of time That in total that's been played in call of duty is like more than human civilization Like the amount of minutes that people have logged like millions of people playing call of duty is like if you put it all together It's longer than human civilization And I've never played a video game, Joe. Good. Is that the craziest thing? You'd love it. Stay away from them, they're crack. I just never felt the need to sit there on a fucking computer and shoot at people. I'd rather shoot at people for real. I'd rather steal a car for real or roll a fucking drug dealer Well, it's definitely more fun to shoot at things for real, but video games are very fun
Starting point is 02:34:49 There's they're not these people playing them aren't morons. They're fun. They're really fun I know what is that long? What is the amount of time spent? This goes back. There's a reddit post from ten years ago actually repeating the exact same thing till so ten years ago It was that much there's you could probably pick a video game though and the exact same thing. So 10 years ago it was that much? You could probably pick a video game though and say the same thing. Right. Grand Theft Auto. Right, yeah any really popular game right?
Starting point is 02:35:12 Yeah. How about Subway servers? This is 25 billion hours played but this was 10 years ago. 25 billion hours? That's so crazy. That's so crazy. That's so many hours of people playing that fucking game ten years ago Yeah, same time as the World of Warcraft has six billion years played six million six million six million six million
Starting point is 02:35:36 Jesus Christ, so six million. That's pre-civilization. So I was a model guy Went to a model guy. Yeah, I used to make little Star Wars Millennium Falcon models, model cars. I used to do all the superheroes. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Remembering you could paint them. Yeah, I used to paint them and the whole thing. That was my, that's the only thing that kept me in. That was fun. Until one day my mom goes stop painting those fucking things. Get out of the fucking house. How much paint fumes were we just fucking getting in our bodies We did glue. Oh, yeah Everybody's got that problem these people talk about rubber cement glue remember that stuff when you would crack it Yeah, I had the brush attached to the lid
Starting point is 02:36:14 Oh, and you pull it out in the smelly book whoo, and you tell your friends smell this you all be smelling markers Everybody be sniffing markers and sniffing glue. I markers everybody be sniffing markers and sniffing glue I was thinking this different rule again just see how we feel now probably not good I would imagine we have some we have some smelling salts so we wrap this up with a smelling salt Jamie how many of those are fresh they're all stacked is there any order to those the way they're stacked that's the last freshie you got one to go for me. Yeah, of course. I want to go you really want to take it with you Okay, here we go. Oh, this is fresh fresh. This one hasn't been open yet You hear that
Starting point is 02:36:58 Melted back on or something. Oh boy. Whoa, this is a good one. Here we go. Oh Oh Oh boy, wow Yeah Them fresh ones. Oh my goodness. I gotta get the right side. Are we, are we giving ourselves brain damage or what? Hopefully. Let's find out about that. What else will we find out about?
Starting point is 02:37:32 We figured out the numbers. Is there one other thing? Yeah. Jesus. These fresh ones are brutal. Are we giving ourselves brain damage? I need to know. I can't afford any more brain damage.
Starting point is 02:37:43 I cleared my ears. Yeah. Let's put a lid a little nut thing keep it fresh Oh my god There's you overuse may damage nasal passages or lungs. Oh, well, that's not good What is it? What's overuse overuse can damage nasal pass? I don't think it's getting to my lungs fuck use both I got damaged my fucking pants already a long hair and fucking bro You're you're the inside of your nose is scarred over It's like a cauliflower ear. Look at this. That was a good whack. That was good. That was a very good
Starting point is 02:38:13 Why not affected something? Yeah, please out. I've never tried it before lifting weights, but that's what it's for That's what they do those power that footage is for strength lift. Yeah, the real power lifter guys They like to take a jolt of that shit right before they fuck Proves and cons of this shit like what a long I don't use any pros. It's all cons. This is not good We just put this the one we just did now is just a higher Strength of the stuff they used to put in your nose. It's the same stuff. It's exactly it's it's smelling salts It's just a whole jar of them. It's ammonia, right? Jamie They used to be able to do that to boxers in between rounds they stopped allowing them to do it, you know
Starting point is 02:38:58 Cuz I guess it'll wake you up if you got a concussion a little bit just enough for you to get more of a concussion So Tommy Hearns can hit you again Oh, thank you And I got this fucking Loris not Loris Fishburne. Who's the other guy? The guy I like a lot. He's in the godfather of Harlem Hurtaker forest with a car is with a guy now. Oh You see it. No, what's going on with your eye? It droops only when you get high that's Larry. Yeah right here over this dry I gotta put like Scotch tape over did you ever see Forest Whitaker in the color of money fucking tremendous?
Starting point is 02:39:29 Oh, he hustled Paul Newman. It was beautiful. Fuckin real. Can I ask you a question? You think I need to lose weight? Yeah He says that after he robs of he tricks him he pretends he sucks at pool. And then slowly but surely Paul Newman realizes he's getting hustled. Sorry. I'll throw this away. And there's a scene where he gets angry and he asks him, are you a hustler? He's like, you can quit if you want to quit. It's one of the best scenes. That was a great scene. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 02:40:02 It's one of the best scenes in the movie because that's really how it works. Just for your clarity, a doctor says this about smelling. What does it say? If you're stuck in a room that was filled with ammonia gas, you would get lung toxicity, potentially you get airway injury, you could potentially die, but breathing this stuff in a few times over a few hours isn't really gonna lead to any significant complications He had the FDA warning is mostly a regulatory issue about miss branding and mislabeling. Okay, so we have to worry There's no way we could worry because those powerlifter guys they've been doing it forever
Starting point is 02:40:37 It's like that Hicks joke about you know when you smoke cigarettes. They're on the side of label. Oh, yeah low birth weight Just pick the ones you like. Yeah. Ironic that that guy got pancreatic cancer, and that's a side effect of cigarettes. That's one of, I mean, you can't for sure say that that's what caused it, but that is one of the things that comes from that.
Starting point is 02:40:59 Renewed interest may have come after the appearance on the Joe Rogan experience. Oops. Yeah, people blasting themselves. That's hilarious. What's going on for Jersey? Who's on that card? Kyla against the Venezuelans? Let's pull it up. The main event is Sugar Sean O'Malley and Marab Duwavish Willie, the rematch, which would be
Starting point is 02:41:15 absolute fucking chaos. Juliana Pena versus Kayla Harrison, who's the most jacked person in the world. And then we have the sugar Sean O'Malley and Marabed Wabash Willie the rematch which would be absolute fucking chaos Juliana Pena versus Kayla Harrison who's the most jacked female That's not on steroids walk in the face of the earth Kayla Harrison is fucked I mean she passes all her tests, but good lord that lady's jacked Bruno Silva Joshua van this is like they haven't made the full card yet These this Kelvin gasland the fight with Joe Piper that was rescheduled
Starting point is 02:41:47 Joe Piper got real sick in Mexico City. So did Daniel Cormier and so did John Anik. They all got really sick in Mexico City Cheetos on that card. Oh, let me see that Okay, who is Cheeto fighting? Okay, who is a cheeto fighting? Okay, that Kelvin fight is a very good fight by the way Kelvin and Joe Piper Joe Piper is a fucking terrifying dude Mario Bautista, that's a very good fight. Mario Bautista is rock-solid man. That's a Serious dude and Marlon is a monster too because that's that's a fucking very good fight Marlins got the bigger name
Starting point is 02:42:26 But Mario Bautista is a fucking killer Great card, but it's not fully formed yet. There's just a few fights generally speaking there's Usually it's around 13 fights You know John and I were talking about that the other day, like there's nothing like calling the UFC fights because you start, you know, if it's in Vegas time, you're starting the fights at 3pm. And you're going all the way through to the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 02:42:55 You're doing like six hours plus of commentary and then you got to find times to run to pee. Sometimes it's like I have to tell the truck I can't pee and then you got over because I'm drinking Monster Energy drinks and I'm taking nicotine pouches and I'm fucking fired up and I'm drinking a lot of water to drinking my hydrogen water and I fucking be so bad. There's nothing worse when you have to when you're trying to form a sense and you have to pee. You can't think it has been brutal for me brutal and when I eat mushrooms I Got to be every 20 fucking minutes. Why and if I'm in a car, I gotta pull over and pee And I gotta make sure I'm not in the sexual fucking
Starting point is 02:43:36 Territory like I don't pee close to school churches Yeah Parks cuz they throw you under the bus for sexual whatever. And you gotta be careful. But dog, I'm in a world where there's some weeks are better than others. I don't get up at night to pee, but in the daytime, especially if I work out and I start drinking that water and drinking that water,
Starting point is 02:43:55 oh baby, I gotta start peeing. And when I got sick, this was the beauty of it. Every time I had to pee, I'd get anxiety. I would get a panic attack. I couldn't even make it to the bathroom to walk. Really? I was peeing my pants on the way to the fucking bathroom, Joe. You have no idea that the last week of February when I went to the hospital in March that
Starting point is 02:44:17 was possibly that Saturday night my blood pressure was 212 over 100 and my oxygen level was at 86 And I wouldn't go to the hospital because I don't want the ambulance coming to get me at 4 in the morning in front Of my daughter, so I waited till 8 and I drove myself to the hospital Wow That was a fucked up couple months man, I didn't know what was on. And what did they determine it was. It was. I had heart congenital heart failure when you have fluid in your lungs, edema, whatever
Starting point is 02:44:53 I was retained. Bro I went I walk around right now I'm 278 I was 265 all summer because I was really happy every day I would go look I could fight in the UFC. When I walked into the hospital I was 319 you got big I got big in a month like a month and I wasn't eating in the hospital nothing well we know you was Italian food like we're gonna eat some food I was just retaining water edema is when you were turning the water oh like that much water? Oh my god Joe. And my lungs was getting the water so I couldn't breathe. And then when I would not, it got to, it became, it went
Starting point is 02:45:31 from me just having to stop. Like if I would walk from here, I wouldn't make it to your bathroom. Couldn't make it to your bathroom. I'd have to stop in between and take like a five minute breath. Meanwhile, holding my pee in. Oh Jesus. And your fucking stress levels going up and up because you're holding your fucking pee in. It got to the point I would walk into shop where I get what I had to get,
Starting point is 02:45:53 but now I gotta stand there because I gotta fucking pee from the walking. Oh no. And the bathroom's a mile away. There's no walking. You just take your dick out and pee. There's no even. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:46:04 In those days it wasn't even getting the container from the car because I started bringing the container in the car. There was no time. You just get out, open the car door and make believe you're waving at somebody. And you take your dick out and you're peeing or you make believe that I'm getting something from the back of the car. The whole time I'm peeing. Oh wow.
Starting point is 02:46:21 Yeah, man. So as soon as I went in, they put me on these fucking things for three days, and I lost like 20 pounds of fluid. It was fucking amazing. I was peeing one of those full things, one an hour. Really? Couldn't even make it to the bathroom. I would just get up and fucking pee in it, fill it up.
Starting point is 02:46:40 And then they did a nuclear blood test, and they had to take out, I don't know, fucking six tubes of blood in 45 minutes. And that's when they came back and they go, you got 65%, you're overloaded on fluid in your body. You're retaining that much water and your blood cells are off the charts. So we gotta start draining. I started draining.
Starting point is 02:47:04 They were taking, I don't know how many tubes from me every three hours of blood Wow heroin junkie so when I got out I started taking it listen when you end up in a hospital. There's a problem Okay, there's a problem. Yeah, you could cut a stitch. That's not a problem. You had a situation. That's how I looked at it There's a problem here. We got to get to the bottom of this fucking and what is the bottom of it? What's the cause it was it was I was taking mk6 77. What is that? And it's a It's a amino acid peptide which mimics growth hormone in your brain
Starting point is 02:47:44 And it had a lot of dumps like it dude insulin dumps and all this type of shit And it was raising my sugar. It was doing a ton of shit I didn't even know it but this ain't the first time it happened happened when I was doing testosterone when I was 50 I Had a rush of red blood cells and I had to go to I was in DC and I had the worst fucking migraine headache for days And they took blood out and they go you got too many red blood cells and I had to go to, I was in DC, and I had the worst fucking migraine headache for days. And they took blood out and they go, you got too many red blood cells. Wow. So, that's why I can't do any of that shit.
Starting point is 02:48:12 And it's like the man said, if you're gonna do growth, do growth. Don't get something that's gonna mimic growth. What ways to well can do for you, what ways to well could do for you will change your fucking life. Yeah, no. It'll get you a full blood panel and figure out what's going on adjust your nutrition adjust your I love I love
Starting point is 02:48:30 Bring the best fucking man. He's the best and he loves what he does He does and that's what the key is like he's jerking off all over that fucking Martian I know he loves that he loves it. It took forever to build that thing He was telling me he was having that thing made two years ago I was like wow now that he got it like okay. I get it. It took forever to build that thing He was telling me he was having that thing made two years ago and I was like Now that he got it like okay, I get it. It's pretty cool. It's pretty really fuck It's very cool, but that was what I have going on man When I came up, I'm gonna see what we could do. Yeah, I quit smoking pot. I was like After about a month on my come on
Starting point is 02:49:03 This ain't what fucking puts you in the hospital, you know this. So I started slightly, I would just do one hit in the morning because that's all I need is the morning. The rest of the day is bullshit. I just like to be high in the morning with that coffee. That's my world. That lets me know what I'm doing that day.
Starting point is 02:49:19 You think about life. No. You think about what you're doing. It's like what Bill Hicks said, marijuana don't make you lazy. It just makes you realize that what you're gonna do ain't worth doing Okay, that's the way I look at you Do that podcast only 18 people listen to it? I'm not You know, that's what happens and that's what happens with me I smoke pot in the morning. I'm like
Starting point is 02:49:42 I love you to death Joey. Let's wrap this up my My brother. Thank you for having me. I'm glad you're in town Have some fun. Happy Easter everybody. Stay black. Talk to you soon. Bye everybody

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