The Joe Rogan Experience - #2320 - Tom Segura

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Tom Segura is a stand-up comedian, actor, podcaster, and author. He co-hosts two podcasts: “Your Mom’s House” with his wife, comedian Christina Pazsitzky, and “Two Bears, One Cave” with Bert Kreischer. He is also the author of “I’d Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays.” Watch his comedy series, “Bad Thoughts,” now streaming on Netflix.www.ymhstudios.com https://www.netflix.com/title/81740857 Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN.  GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 5/18/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. What's wrong with you? How? First of all, how did Netflix let you make this show? Well, they wouldn't have let me make it if I just pitched it to them. What did you do? I made a few and showed it to them.

Oh my god. Because I knew. I knew that if we... You can't give anybody the script. No. The script won't work. The script won't work. I mean, that's just...

That's the thing is like... It's very funny. Thanks man. It's. So ridiculous. It's pretty ridiculous. You know, it was a few years ago that I made the, like the initial one. It was, I was on that crazy tour, that real crazy tour, where it was like, you know, fucking 10 shows a week.

And I had a break coming up. And so I've always liked movies, like features, right? But it's a huge undertaking to get a feature made, but I liked short films, because it feels like you're making a movie, you know, like a mini movie, right? And it feels much more accessible to do. So I had written all these like short stories, short films,

and I called my friend Rami Hashash, and I was like, hey, I have a break coming up on tour. Let's shoot a short film, because we'd done other things before. And when I sent him, I sent him like 10 different scripts. He was like, what if we did three of these? I was like, how can we do three of them? He's like, we'll shoot like 11 days in a row.

We can do three of these stories. And even then I wasn't thinking of like having a television series, I was just like, oh, it'll be fun to make these stories, you know? And so after we shot those three, it was clear that we had like the bones of a show. Like what if we did a show that was based on short stories, you know? Like short films basically. And I don't know, there's another view that were in the original. And

when I sent them in to Netflix, they're like, this is fucking insane, but like we'll make six episodes of this. And yeah, they were just like, this is crazy. But it's been the most fun I've ever had, dude. Really? Yeah, yeah. Because you know what, I was thinking about it, like on my way in here today. I was like, sometimes you have to remind yourself, like of what your original dream, you know? And my dream when I moved to LA had nothing to do with stand up.

I never thought of stand-up. Not to say that I don't love doing stand-up today. I'm in love with stand-up. But I moved to LA because I was like, oh, I want to do movies. Like that was my whole thing. I want to do comedy movies. And I had like my own blueprint for how I would do it. I was like, I'll go to the Groundlings. SNL will definitely hire me from there. Like this is like my 21 year old brain. And then I'll do that for a couple of years and then I'll do movies.

Like I thought that was a logical game plan to end up in movies. And it just, you know, I did do the Groundlings for a while, the school, but when I was supposed to do Writing Lab, which was like one of their levels, I the school, but when I was supposed to do Writing Lab, which was like one of their levels, I had started stand-up and I was just like,

oh, this path is just better for me. Like I was getting traction, not like, my career wasn't moving, but I'm saying like, I could feel how much I loved it, and I was starting to get like 50 bucks here and there, and I was like, oh, it's not doing the Writing Lab thing, it's staying in the stand-up path. That's kind of like.

Interesting. But the dream of doing something like movies, which is like, this feels like to me, like they sent me to film school and they were like, make your fucked up movies. That's what it felt like. That's been, I was working like 16 hour days doing this thing and I would come home

and Christina would be like, I have never seen you so energized after working all goddamn day. She's like, you come home in the best mood. I was like, yeah, cause I'm having fun. Like I'm having so much fun doing this, you know? All that shows you're doing the right thing. I think so.

I mean, it was like- That is so uniquely you. It is, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's our fucking text thread There are some in here that I can't wait for you to see like there are some in here that I literally cannot wait for you She this morning she goes why is it called bad thoughts? It should be called cock thoughts

She's like I swear there's dicks in like every other one like yeah She's like dicks and violence. That's your your wheelhouse We need more of this in the world Yeah, we really do The you know that that show the the religious show on max like why I'm not remembering it Righteous gemstones. Oh, yeah fucking a yeah, man dude, Danny McBride Yeah, he's fucking fantastic. Yeah, he's fantastic. But the whole cast the whole cast is yeah. Yeah, the fucking show is so good It's so funny Goggins Adam Devine. Mm-hmm John Goodman. Oh, yeah, everyone's amazing. They're all fantastic, but it's also so ridiculous

Yeah, it's like thank God. It seems like for a while, people were getting scared of making anything offensive. I know, and it also feels like so many studios, networks, platforms, whatever you wanna call it, are like so distanced from comedy. Like it's like comedy is like- It's too dangerous.

It's very like- Well, it's weird is you can get away with so much in a drama in a drama you could have violence Theft and car accidents. Yeah fucking kill people and rape people and steal all their money and and that's okay Yeah for some reason but like there's something about doing comedy. That's offensive or even potentially offensive Yeah, the other thing is that there's something about doing comedy that's offensive or even potentially offensive. Yeah, the other thing is there's the offensive angle. I also think that they really shit the bed on literally backing truly funny material.

Like the comp, so many studio comedies that are released, the critics, people are like, why didn't this work? Cause it's not good, it wasn't funny. It's not a funny comedy. Don't you think part of that is because they can't take any real chances? Yeah, I think a studio is always, you know, like if you strip everything down,

it's somebody that has to have some risk in their job. They're playing with millions of dollars and saying like, this will make us money. And so, yeah, they start to get more apprehensive about it. The other thing is that the cost of some of these comedies, when comedies were really thriving last, which was, I think, like, more than 20 years ago, some of these comedies started to cost, like,

30 million plus to do a comedy. Yeah, because sometimes you had, like, huge stars and huge set pieces and you'd have these enormous budgets. Yeah, like real, and now some of them like Tropic Thunder I think did probably pretty well with the box office, right? But a lot of them would not. And so it started to be like,

hey, you know what, we can make this, that's why you see the explosion of certain genres, right? Like horror really has had a huge uptick the last decade plus, because people can produce them for five million, but they don't realize that you can produce great comedies for five million also. You can, but you have to like prioritize the material first.

It's gotta be a great script, and they gotta be willing to back it. I feel like they just haven't taken those those shots yet What's kind of a tremendous opportunity right because the fact that these big studios and these big stars? Are not doing those kind of films exactly it like the door is wide open. It's open the demand has never Gone away. No people want it. They want to laugh. Always. I'm doing one this summer. Yeah? I'm doing a movie this summer, yeah.

What are you doing? It's a crazy fucking comedy. It's insane. It hasn't been announced yet, so you know how they are about that. But it's a wild R-rated comedy. Well, tell me about it afterwards then. Okay, yeah.

Ha-ha, everybody else. Yeah, no, I would love to talk about it. But I think we're doing kind of like what you're saying, which is like we're gonna go all in on trying to make this really funny movie. And I mean, I couldn't be more excited about it. And I think it's like, it takes, you realize when you're, you know,

you read it and you go, this is it. We kind of do, you know, some punch-ups on the script. And then you just try to surround yourself with amazing comedic talent, you know, like great actors. And just have fun. Yeah, I think that's like that's awesome something that's missing. That's so cool. I didn't even know that that was your original dream and i've fucking known you forever. I know Yeah, it was I guess I was probably like I kind of was resigned to that's not gonna happen too, you know

Not like I mean the other thing is like dude every time i'm out on the road, you know, I would get a call, hey, they wanna see you for this part, or you got an offer to shoot this show, or this, like, here's the offer. And I'm like, yeah, I'm on tour. Like, I can't move the fucking United Center, you know? Like, they don't care. They don't care. They just want that piece. And I'm like, dude, I can't. Because they don't get a They just want that piece. And I'm like, dude, I can't.

Because they don't get a piece of that United Center. I know. I'm like, I can't move all that shit. But that's also, I realize that after years of that, it's like, well, if I'm always touring, I'm just never gonna be able to do something else. Other people's stuff. Yeah, and so it also kind of,

I got excited about having the summer off and I could do something. And then my tour, the current tour I'm on, will end in December and I'm leaving 26 wide open. Really? Yeah. You're just gonna film stuff. Yeah, film some stuff and then I'll still do what I do,

which is like go into your club or book some club weekends, which are kind of like low stress kind of things where you go like, hey, I'm just gonna go work out. So I'll try to keep the muscle fresh, but I won't book like a tour. You know? Yeah. It's good to take breaks.

It is, right? I'll tell you that. I took a big sort of a break. I've just been doing a club. How's a... Since I did my live special. Yeah. It's very nice.

It's great having no pressure. So I just talk about what I want to talk about, and I write about what I want to write about instead of going, I got to put an hour together, because I have a tour in three months. I have to make sure this hour's tight. You just kind of take your time with it. And I think there's something to be

said for taking breaks with stand-up in particular because like, you don't want to just have tools that you use to do a job, right? You want to actually, like, you have to kind of figure out what am I investing all my time in these subject matters? What am I, what is like, what's interesting to me? And how much time is that gonna take to figure out what the perspective is where I could just say it on stage? Yeah, cuz I feel like With a lot of comics there's a thing happens we get kind of like locked into a Set and then you abandon that set and there's just mad scramble to come up with a new set

Yes, and a lot of times when you're doing that new set, it's not, you're not invested in it. It just, you know, you can make it effective. You know what I mean? It just kind of feels like filler. Yeah. I know exactly what you mean. And the audience feels that too.

I think they definitely do. Ooh, they do. They do, because I feel it as an audience member. I know when someone's doing that, and I go, ugh, this is not, I'm not connecting with this at all Right, but if it's something that you can tell the person wants to talk about exactly resonates It's different actually interesting. That's the thing. It's like

you know as I've gotten older of thoughts much more about stand-up and I there's a lot of Stand-up is kind of like unspoken. I think a lot of it is hypnosis. Really? Yeah, there's a weird thing going on. And I get it from great comedians. Like when I was a kid, there was this guy named Frank Santos, the R-rated hypnotist,

and he would go on stage and make people do stuff. And like, you know, you're having sex with Madonna. It was really weird. But there was a flow to his confidence or something about him. And he was also an actual hypnotist, like hypnotize people to quit smoking and shit like that. And there was something that he was doing

where I was like, what is he doing? Like, what is this connection where it's just so funny? Like, how is he getting into these people's heads? Like, what is he, like, what is this connection where it's just so funny? Like, how is he getting into these people's heads? Like, what is hypnosis? And then I see, like, a guy like Attell on stage when he's killing, and I recognize something in him. I'm like, he's hypnotizing us. There's something that he's doing,

this effortless confidence and connection to what he's talking about and great material also. So you give him the reins. You're like, oh, this material is so good. I'll give you the reins. Take my brain. Take my brain. Take my brain.

And the rhythm of the cadence too. Because he has a very particular cadence. And you know, if you hang out with him or work with him like I did a few times, you start doing the cadence. A lot of people do. Start doing the cadence. and I did that. I did that in like, 05, 06, when I was like,

he was on his show and his first killer album came out, Skanks for the Memories. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I would be talking to you like this, and I'd get outside, and I'd be like, how's everybody doing? Like, I would just start doing, because it's such a hypnotic type of cadence. Yeah, but Triso, he says that about like having babies.

Like that's his babies. Yeah. Like David Tell has a bunch of babies. Yeah. It's like bunch of people that gave, he gave birth to their. 100%. Yeah.

Yeah, it's super normal. A lot of people have that, but it's interesting how that stuff works. That there's a thing that's going on, which is why live standup is so much better than standup on television. Dude, I also have this thing recently, because I'm on tour right now.

I realize that like, man, it's funny how I could be, I could be like, and being tired, I go on stage in a different mindset, and all of a sudden I'm like, wow, that was a way better set. I had the right amount of tired. Not tired where I can't think. But more relaxed.

Yeah, and then I get off, and my whole tour crew was like, that was a fucking amazing show. And I'm like, yeah, I feel like I was too tired to be self-conscious or something. You know what I mean? Like some of my self-awareness went away, but the right degree of it went away. And then the show just felt better.

And then you locked in with them. Yeah, I also like to tell myself sometimes, if I remember, that I'm best on stage if I'm going on stage in a silly mindset. If I'm goofing off backstage. Yes. Fucking around, you know. Yes. Making fun of somebody that's like in my crew or something. I don't know, you know,

like dancing in the green room. Like just silly. That mindset walking up on stage is like the best one to go on stage with. That's why I used to love working with Joey so much. Yeah. Because two things, one, Joey would make me laugh like while he was on stage. I'd be waiting to go on stage. Instead of thinking about my material

and going over everything with a fine tooth comb, I'd just be laughing. And then I'd go on stage laughing. And that's the thing is that's an unspoken thing. But the audience goes like, there's joy coming from this person. You know, they feel the joy. Yeah, they really do. Because like, there's nothing grosser than fake laughs.

Yeah. When a comedian does the fake laugh thing, it's fucking gross. It's just like when you know they've said that fucking same joke the same way every night with the same laugh. Like, ugh, you're tricking me. You're tricking me, yeah.

You're tricking me, you're a hooker. It's so manufactured, you know, it's so calculated. Which is fine, I mean, whatever, do whatever you want. But it's like there's a thing that comes with that that's like, okay, I'm never gonna be fully locked in, but maybe I can just appreciate this for, you know? Like I'm watching a sitcom. You know what I mean?

And then there's also nothing as fun as genuine laughter on, like, if something really makes you laugh while you're doing a set, that's the most fun. Oh, for sure. And that becomes contagious. It's like, that's why the bits work so good when you first doing a set, that's the most fun. And that becomes contagious. It's like, that's why the bits work so good when you first start doing them. And then sometimes they die off

because you're getting tired of it and you're not laughing anymore. Whereas there's certain things, like at a subject, when you first start talking about it, you're like, what the fuck is going on? How is this a real thing? It's so funny, because we were just talking about how there's certain bits

where you It kills like it kills right mm-hmm and then over the next few months it dies It dies slowly yeah, and you're trying to do the math you're like wait am I saying it different am I like you go listen? Right did I miss a beat or something? Did I miss some connective tissue? What's going on? And it's just like, by the end you're like, no, it's fully dead, it has died.

I don't know what happened. You just gotta be able to accept that they're dead. Yeah, that's such a funny thing though, that happens. I have a bunch of bits I call orphans. I have a file of orphans. Oh, like they're just- They're all bits that just never made it onto a special. Someone comes up to me, like, every now and then one of my friends would come up to me like,

do you do that fucking, is that on anything? I was like, that one's just an orphan. It's an orphan. It's just floating around. It doesn't fit with anything and it's all so fucked up. Sometimes you're like, you ever try to bring those back? I brought some back that didn't make it and sometimes they get new life. Yeah. And then sometimes you're like, oh, there's a reason why I didn't carry this one. You know when they pop up is Bottom of the Barrel.

Oh yeah. Bottom of the Barrel. It's the best show. The Bottom of the Barrel every now and then I'll pull something out of it. Actually, I have a fucking ancient bit on this if I can kind of remember it. That's the other thing is your memory starts to,

on the old stuff. My memory's gone on my last special, it's gone. That's the best thing that can happen starts to mm-hmm on the old stuff. My memory's gone on my last special. It's gone That's the best thing that can happen. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's gone I get called out to you know do this bit and I go I honestly don't remember how it goes Yeah, like I'll start it and then I'll forget right you want to do it. Yeah, and then some they'll know it They'll know it better than you. Yeah, sometimes that's good. That would be funny if they did it. They acted it out It's pretty fun. Yeah, there's certain bits like they would be funny if they did it. They acted it out. It's pretty fun.

Yeah, because there's certain bits. They just leave your mind. It's like, I'm done with this. Did you like any of the acting stuff? Because I know you don't have any interest in doing it anymore, but did you enjoy it? Yeah. Yeah, News Radio was really fun.

That was fun. It was a fun job. Yeah, it was fun. I didn't mind doing it. It's just I didn't like it as much. And I didn't like the time commitment. That these, I mean, I don't mind doing it. It's just I didn't like it as much and I didn't like the time commitment that these these I mean I was some sound like I'm complaining Oh, it's acting so hard, but it's like you're working these long ass days

Yeah And as a person who likes to do a lot of different things that becomes a problem and you were on a multi cam Exactly imagine if you were on a single cam way harder.. That would have been- Single cams are crazy. I had friends that are on single cams. I was like, oh my God, how are you doing this? They were working six days a week and they would work in like 12, 15 hours a day. Yeah.

Like this is so crazy. Like I like to do a bunch of stuff, man. I like to do jiu-jitsu. I know. I like to play pool. Are you rolling again? No, I'm still injured. I'm still dealing with some small, it's a lot better now, lower back issue,

and a little bit of a knee issue, but that's pretty good too. I'm pretty close. Did I tell you how my little guy quit Jujitsu? Why, why'd he quit? It's the funniest thing. They both go, both my boys go. And we take them in and my youngest is like,

this is my last one, he's six. And I go, is your last one? He goes, dude, my schedule is crazy. And I go, what? He's taking off his dad. Yeah, he's talking like me. And he goes, I have a full plate. And I go, you have a full plate.

He goes, I go kindergarten, I got Spanish, do drums, I don't have time for this. That's hilarious. And then he told the instructor, he told the guy in charge. I was like, tell him. He goes, I won't be coming back.. That's hilarious. And then he told the instructor he told the the guy in charge I was like tell him he goes I won't be coming back. I have a very full schedule and so that guy Kind of like smiled and he goes well What do you have? He goes I told you kindergarten drums Spanish. I don't have time to do everything

Six and I go yeah, is this the one who calls you Tom? Well, they both did for a while, but yeah so He goes but the instructor was great. He goes, okay. Okay. He goes well in life You have to be strong right and my kid goes yeah, he goes it's not an option And he goes yeah, he goes so if you have to be strong And he goes, yeah. He goes, so if you have to be strong, then you have to do this. And my kid's like, yeah.

He goes, the instructor goes, so I'll see you Thursday. And he sticks out his fist, and my kid goes, I told you, I'm too busy. I love you here. And so he hasn't gone. But this is the thing about kids, is like he hasn't gone now in a month. And then now he's like,

hey, I wanna go back to Jiu Jitsu. I'm like, of course. Of course. And also his older brother is doing very well. Ah, that's a problem. He's like this motherfucker. He got a new belt, you know? And my older brother's fucking him up

and talking mad shit all day. Takes his shirt off every day and he goes, I'm gonna be so fucking jacked. So he's like, shit, I gotta get back in there. That's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta hedge your time. Like you have to figure out like what do you want to do? You are the most, you're the most insane in my book for a person who does the most different things. Because you are highly proficient at archery, jiu-jitsu, shoot and pull, fitness, this shit, stand-up, like that's a lot of different things to be like very good at.

Do I have to pick my spots? Yeah. You know, because I'm an obsessive person. Right. So like I have to like that's? Yeah. You know, because I'm an obsessive person. Right. So like I have to, like that's why I don't fuck with golf. That's why I don't fuck with video games. Fucking golf will get you dude. Video games will get me.

I stayed away from video games for 20 years about, about 20 years. And we got a console. Uh oh. Well here's the thing, I actually found that I am busy enough where I, in my brain, I can go, yeah I can't, I can't. I can do 20 minutes on certain days

and get like a little dopamine kick from it, like have fun. But most of the time I walk by and I go, I wanna, I gotta, I'm out of time. My problem is if I put that 20 minutes in, I'll be up till five in the morning. I'll go, I don't need sleep, I just won't work out tomorrow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll just show up half in the bag, I'll eat a lot of creatine so that my brain works. Do you know how to do that? Yeah, I started doing it every day. But that's a really big one for sleep deprivation. Really? Yeah, there was some sort of study where they showed

that it completely diminishes the effects of sleep deprivation, if you take, I think it's 20 grams, I think 20 grams of creatine, something crazy like that. I've been doing that. I have a whole new sleep protocol I'm doing you take, I think it's 20 grams, I think 20 grams of creatine, something crazy like that. I've been doing that. I have a whole new sleep protocol I'm doing. Oh, a sleep protocol. Like I'm saying a bunch of peptides and shit, yeah.

I just ordered an Oraring, track my sleep. That's good. Do you have the Try That Pineal peptide? No, I haven't, I heard about it. You were telling me it really ramped up your REM sleep. Fucking awesome. Yeah? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Anything for more sleep I'm into, man. I'll tell you what it really up your REM sleep. Fucking awesome. Yeah? Yeah. Nice.

Anything for more sleep I'm into, man. I tell you what, really affects me. Quality sleep. No drinking, that really affected my sleep a lot. Really? Oh yeah. You don't feel that? You don't drink a lot?

Not a lot, not like Burt levels. But like last time I was sober, I was with him. We were all, it was like, it was a great table. It was like Taylor Sheridan, his wife, my wife was there, Burt and his wife, David Goggins and his wife, and then a bunch of my professional pool player friends. That's a fun table. Oh, it was fucking phenomenal.

We had so much fun. We all had dinner together after the UFC fight, and Burt is just throwing back martinis. And I was like, oh, I definitely made the right choice. I definitely made the right choice. Like I'm watching him, he's slowly turning into a human grape in front of my eyes. He's just fucking red in his face.

He was hilarious. I'll tell you that. At the table, we were having a lot of laughs. But I was like. He can knock him down, dude. He can really knock him down. He found out we were leaving, So he ordered two more to down on the way out the door. He just downed two more to use all of the war, like just down these

martinis on the way out the door. I'm like, this is fucking preposterous. It's preposterous. And then I talked to him. He goes, I got all my blood work done. Perfect. Everything's perfect. I know. So how's that possible? He always says that and I saw somebody comment the other day They go the documentary about Burt's doctor Is gonna be unbelievable It's gotta be dirty lab coat with a fucking mouse in his pocket Complete lunatic who's like you're great. Oh my god That's so funny. Yeah, he lets we had dinner and he was like wine wine

He wouldn't wine and I was like, I'm good. He's like we'll do a bottle of wine for the 10. Nobody had wine And he can drink it in like five minutes. It's crazy. It's bizarre. Well, it's obvious, like, it's gotta be an adaptive thing, right? Like running is. Yeah.

If you run never, you can't run a marathon. Right. But if you run a lot, you can run a marathon. Sure. You get used to it. Your body gets accustomed to putting in the miles five before work every day You know, we always talk about that freak show shit. He has in him like he's free. Yeah, he's freak Yeah, we did the the 5k in in Tampa. Mm-hmm. We had like 8,000 people come out this year. That's crazy and

so many people that are like You know Making yeah, yeah making leap. How good is jelly roll? Look, dude and so many people that are like, you know, making... Yeah, making leaps. How good is Jelly Roll look? Dude, do you know what he's down? 200 pounds. Yeah, and from last year, 130.

That's amazing. And he's like, I wanna lose another 100. That's insane, so what's he at now? He's at 340. So he wants to get down to 240, wow. He wants to get to 240. He's a big guy, for him 240 is probably right. Yeah, it's probably, and by the way,

we were talking before he got there. The 5K had, it was in Raymond James Stadium where the Bucks play. So I was like, well, how are we mapping out 3.1? Well, the only way to do that in a venue of this size is you had to like use every square inch of the place. So they had us go up the ramp. If you're gonna go up to the top,

there's a ramp that goes up. It's nine stories up of all incline. And then you go across, then you go down, then you go up again. So we, like half a mile plus of incline, right? So before Jelly gets here, I'm like, I don't know if he can do this, man You know, I mean like he's a big guy still knees cardio all the shit, right? Dude. He fucking smashed it. That's incredible

He didn't he did great. Did he hire a trainer? Like how is it? What is he doing? I think some people got rid of his phone I know he has a flip phone that like doesn't even like that you can I don't even know if you can get texts on it So yeah, he just chucked his phone out. Apparently, like all the years of drinking, he just gave his phone number out to so many people. And they just decided, instead of getting a new number, which is what you should do, he's like,

I'm just, no phone, fuck it. That's fucking awesome, by the way. It's crazy. I love, like I used to panic when I left my phone behind. Now when I forget my phone, I'm like, oh, it's gonna be a great day. I left my phone, I'll get it later. I feel fine.

It's a great feeling. Yeah, we're all prisoners. We are totally prisoners. We're prisoners and it's gonna get worse. Oh, this is the thing I wanted to tell you. So some of the Bucs players came out, the offensive linemen. These are absolute beasts.

Six-five, six-six, three-thirty, like just. Giants. Giants, they're gorillas. And we're doing all this silly competition stuff, like we hit the golf simulator, throw a fuckin' spear into like a bale of hay, and then they're like, oh, we need one more thing. So we have a beer stein holding contest. So it says.

Oh, Burt won that. Yeah, he beat fucking all pro. He's been holding, that's like, come on, man. But look at these fucking guys. Does that make sense? It does make sense, but you still go like. Those skinny guys can throw a baseball a lot faster than these dudes.

It's just crazy to me, though. Not to me. The upper bodies on these dudes, I'm like, no. These guys are. Yeah, he's gonna win. He's just crazy to me though. Like, not to me. The upper bodies on these dudes, I'm like, no, they're, they're, these guys. Yeah, he's going to win. He's used to holding beers. Yeah. He's used to holding drinks. I couldn't do it. I tapped out. I like my arm just gave out. And then look at him. He's still smiling. Oh yeah. Nothing wrong. That's insane. Yeah. And then, yeah, they, they slowly fell. I bet if he did his left arm, it would fall off. I bet he literally wouldn't be able to, he's been holding up drinks so long, also like toasting

crowds for so long. Look at this. Yeah. He beat everybody. He should hold out and just humiliate them after he's done. Just keep going. Oh, he held it up after he was done. That big guy looks like he's ready to break. He gave up. Yeah, he's like a bird didn't even look at this Yeah Just insane He's a like got incredible genetics. Like if you wanted to be an athlete, he'd be an incredible out Yeah, I think so if he was like super dedicated to it. Yeah. Yeah, he's just trapped trapped in booze Mmm, but it's also made him very rich. rich, so I don't know what to say.

Yeah. Working out. I love him. You know, I don't want him to change, but I do. I mean, I want him to be healthy. But like, when we first started doing Sober October, it was essentially just because we were worried Burt was gonna die.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Well, he's still here. I mean, the first one was the weight loss thing. Blood works perfect. Yeah. Yeah, it's nuts.

What type of resistance is that? Yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'm obsessed with you know that squeeze machine. Yeah, you know the thing. Oh, yeah the measures your yeah I got a hundred and sixty one and I want to get 190. Oh, so you're training for it Yeah, you have one here? No. The grip strength? I think we do, yeah, we do out there.

Yeah, out in the hallway. But we do at the club. And so, when the club, when I first did it, I think I got 147, I was like, well this is bullshit. Yeah. And then I got up to 161 without these things. I bet. Just from working out a lot.

I bet David has a crazy grip strength. Which David. Oh, yeah, it's big big hands big hands Jamar has one Jamar neighbors. I think he got 167 George strong, that's crazy. You see you seen with sure. Yeah, it's Jack Jack but You know, we've had some like big dudes come in there and do it Um, I don't know who's got like the record on that thing Records gotta be the UFC had a bunch of guys do it and I forget who had the highest but I think I

Think Alex Pereira was like 180. He was up in the like he's a big fuck I didn't realize how big he I didn't realize cuz you know TV so deceptive oh yeah Then I saw somebody I know standing next to him and I was like holy shit was Olivera 97 oh that's crazy. He didn't even try Michael Chandler 113 what? No, he's doing his right hand. Are you doing your opposite hand cuz Paul Craig I think is a lefty 126 Bo nickel He's a lefty too. So they're doing their opposite. They're doing opposite in What's his?

153 Why I'm in strong as fuck. Let me see what he's got 153 Steep a is huge. What's he got? He's a left hand here, too. Yeah fireman strength He's a big fucking dude though. 131. Wow, that's crazy. Other hand. 104. Oh, Jesus Christ. Second attempt.

155. Alright, so I'm stronger than all those bitches. There you go. Fuck yeah, but I'm trying to get to 190 190s crazy. I think this is like 115 or something like that some of those uh Those arm wrestling guys oh yeah, they have freaky forearms. Oh, yeah, I was watching this one guy who's a climber Who's a professional climber? Oh and yeah, he has this basement gym I might have saved the video, but I think if you find it on YouTube, it's like I've never seen strength like this This guy has calves Growing off of his forearm bone. It's like a calf. Yeah, and he's doing one finger

I've seen it's I don't understand It's like a calf. Yeah. And he's doing one finger chin ups. I don't understand it. With like a centimeter of hold. Like it's the tiniest little lip that his finger's resting on and he's pulling his whole body up. This guy but I mean he's doing the same thing. Yeah. Look at that. That's crazy. It's not this guy. The other guy is like super jacked his his forearms are at least he's not like Bodybuilder size, but the musculature is crazy. I saw one of those guys who I guess is in the Rock-climbing mountain climbing world. He's considered one of the guy. Hmm. That's the guy. So this guy does a bunch of freaky shit What does this do? Yeah, look at look at the, look at that one arm thing

See that? The size of the grip Look how fat that grip is Like doing a one arm chin up is crazy Look at his back dude But doing a one arm, look at the size of his fucking forearms Doing a one arm chip is crazy But a one arm chin up with a fat grip

like that is off the charts nuts His strength must be insane, but you look at him like right there like his neck and everything He doesn't look like that strong of a guy, right? It's very deceptive because with With climbers you can't have you don't need traps. You can have like excess stuff So everything is very good. It is a four up. So you this grips But look the size of his fucking forearms when he's doing that it's crazy see if you can isolate when they when he was doing that with his forearms the NBA 82 game grind is

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This guy. It's like mountain climbing, if you think about it, just the amount of reps that you're picking your body weight up and holding, like gymnasts, like who's more jacked than the guys who do the rings? No. They're super super jet like look at his forearms look at that back up a little second and just freeze it look at freeze it right there freezer look at that left fucking forearm yeah that's crazy that's not there's a split in the muscle that's a calf yeah it's a calf that's a calf that's like a strong calf and this is like a big endorsement for calisthenics basically right I mean is calisthenics are huge yeah they're huge it's a calf, that's like a strong calf. And this is like a big endorsement for calisthenics basically, right?

I mean, isn't it? Calisthenics are huge. Yeah. They're huge. It's a big part of my workout. Really? Oh yeah, I do a lot of calisthenics. I do, you know, I still do the 100 pushups every day

and the 100 bodyweight squats, but I do chin ups, dips, and L pull ups, you know, like so you're, like with a close grip, but the legs extended. Yeah. I do all those. Really? They're huge, yeah. It's, you wanna be able to,, you know, like with a close grip, but the legs extended, I do all those. They're huge, yeah. It's, you wanna be able to, and you know what I do? I do hang from a bar like this, where I swing my toes up and I touch the bar.

So it's like really works your core too. That's like, being able to manipulate your own body weight is crucial. It's crucial. Yeah, cause those gymnasts are like, some of them are like, I've never touched weights. I'm just doing this shit all own body weight is crucial. It's crucial. Yeah, because those gymnasts are like, some of them are like, I've never touched weights. I'm just doing this shit all day. Which is nuts.

And they have the craziest. But it's not time efficient. Yeah. Because they're doing that. Hours. Their muscles are like that because they're doing eight hour sessions. But you can get a lot done with your body

with just dips and chin ups. A lot. Dips are incredible. Yeah. So good. I mean, that was like, I think when Arnold would talk about chest, he was like, that was like the cherry on top for the workouts was doing. He's like, we always would do dips.

And you could do weighted dips too. Yeah. Dips are so easy to do with weight, or throw a chain over your neck, or put a weight vest on, or something like that. Yeah. That's another thing I found like just a 25 pound weight vest where it doesn't feel like anything when you're wearing it but when you do stuff with it on like chin-ups and pull-ups like holy fuck yeah giant different. And then when you take that thing off you're like oh man. Right so

imagine being 25 pounds too heavy. Yeah. And then imagine being jelly roll. So jelly roll is walking around 200 pounds too heavy before at then imagine me in jelly roll so jelly rolls walking around 200 pounds too heavy before at least so it's actually 300 pounds right cuz he was another hundred Yeah, so imagine just carrying around everywhere you go. You got a squat rack Like a like a real Bar stuffed with plates, and you're just carrying that through life. Yeah, that's what they're doing That's great. That's why those guys fucking lower bodies are always crazy when they love Ralphie May used to have the biggest calves in the world. Yeah, his legs were like

Trunks. Oh my god. Yeah, just carrying around that body all day. That's nuts Mm-hmm, if they didn't if they trim down enough the quads are still humongous. Yeah, Bert lost weight you get weaker If they trim down enough the quads are still humongous. Yeah Burt lost weight he would get weaker But you do get weaker when you lose weight. Yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, that's always a mass moves mass It's also like to lose weight to lose body fat your body has to think something's wrong Like it's very difficult to maintain mass Like maintain muscle mass while you're losing fat. Yeah, that's hard. You gotta be real careful with everything Yeah, that's true

And you got to try not to lose too much weight too quick because a lot of people with we losing weight like a lot of people become food addicts and then addicts act like Addicts and you start thinking I gotta lose it all right now and just starve yourself It's not the way you just work out eight hours a day and well you're gonna lose all your muscle too. Everything. You're gonna lose everything and you're probably gonna get injured because your body's gonna like, hey you fucking idiot. Yeah.

And then like give you that tendonitis. How about a little back bulge and how about a fucking sore knee? How about plantar fasciitis? Slow the fuck down. Your body tries to figure out a way to slow you down. Yeah Slower and slow and steady is the way for sure. Yeah. Yeah, it just sucks You know you want to get if you've realized you fucked up It would be nice if you could just get better quick like oh, I know I just

Month before summer and I'm 50 pounds overweight fuck fuck. I want to lose another 10 15 right now What do you want to do to do it? Just dial in you know it's really about consistency I feel like with me right like my window for when I go Oh shit is just so much smaller than it used to be so right now. I'm like oh I've slid a little bit of it on tour. I've been doing all this shit. I just have to tour. It's hard It's hard like I'm working fuck it cheeseburger. Yeah, sometimes pizza Sometimes it's also just that like, you know, I get into this rhythm of the way I'm eating and training at home, which is pretty good

Yeah, and then you get out there and it's like fuck, you know, we got on three planes and you're just tired You just don't do it. Yeah, and then yeah, you just order whatever to eat So you just feel it slowly come apart. But I feel like I'm also at a place where I know if I dial in my diet and make sure I stay on top of the training, I can shed this 10 pretty. Yeah, you've done it before. You did it pretty well.

You figured it out. And then you also have muscle memory now. I think It's hard when you're traveling because you know, you're just Anytime you're traveling your energy level goes down. Yeah It's like you got to figure out things to mitigate that energy level going down and then counter intuitively The best way to do that is to work out. Yeah, I know doesn't seem like it makes any sense because you're tired I don't want to work out a lot of times we do the land and lift got to do that is to work out. Yeah, I know. Which doesn't seem like it makes any sense because you're tired, I don't want to work out. A lot of times we do the land and lift. Gotta do that.

Like, land and go. Yep, land and go, land and go. It is crazy how, I do a lot of three day, three, four day weekends, you know, for tour. Man, a lot of times on that third or fourth day, you're in your third or fourth city and you're like, fuck, I am wrecked today. Just like another plane, another time zone.

You take a lot of vitamins? I take a pretty good amount of vitamins, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's important too. Yeah. Take a lot of vitamins, and then, it's hard to be strict with your diet when you're on the road, but the big one is alcohol.

I'm lucky in that regard, because I'm not a big boozer. Yeah, I don't know how Burt does it. I started eating these David bars. Oh, those are great. Those are great. Yeah, I think Peter T is involved in that, right? I don't know if he is, maybe.

Yeah, they're delicious. They're great. Boy, they make you fart. I love farting. 28 grams of protein, 150 calories, no sugar. They're great. Yeah, great Yeah, there's a bunch of good options now that you could bring with you on the road if you get hungry keep you from eating bullshit I'm eating bullshit. That's all I'm trying like sometimes I go like oh it was great today was a great day

Mm-hmm, and then it's just dinner. So you just like just don't fucking ruin your day. Have you ever had carnivore snacks? Do you know what that is? No, the carnivore snacks ri Do you know what that is? No. The carnivore snacks, ribeye is my go-to. I bring that on the UFC broadcast. Like I give them to Daniel Cormier and me. We eat them. It's like sliced ribeyes that are just dried,

but it's got the fat on it. It's good. Yeah, you don't feel guilty at all. Like if you're hungry, need a snack, open them with just meat and salt. Perfect, perfect snack. And the company's called's just meat and salt. Perfect. Perfect snack. And the company's called Carnivore? Yeah, Carnivore Snacks. Snacks with an X. But it's not like, it's not jerky. It's like,

they describe it as like meat pastry. Yeah. It's good snack food. I like it. Yeah, just to keep from going off the rails. That's all you're trying to do. That's like, I'm trying to do is just mitigate the damage of the day. I have a whole folder on my phone saved up of food that I really can't eat.

Really? Just when I look at restaurants like, oh. What do you miss the most when you are trying to eat healthy? Italian food, Italian food. Pasta, right? Pasta and crazy sandwiches. Oh my God, we went to Carbone. Oh, in New York?

Yeah, they got one in Vegas now too. I know. I think they've actually had the Vegas one for a while. It's so good, dude. It's so good. So good, that rigatoni with vodka sauce. When it has a little kick, they put a little spice in it. Ooh, it's good, it's so good.

It's tough to beat Italian food. It really is. It really is. It's tough to beat it food. It really is. It's tough to beat it just for pure, ugh. That pleasure of ugh. Just overstuffing yourself. We were there for last summer. It was like every day. Yeah.

And the thing is I didn't like blow up. No? No, I thought I would. I mean I'm sure I gained a few, but I thought I was like, oh this is gonna be fucking terrible. But I think a big thing there versus here is portion sizes. You know, like, there's no such thing as,

they don't go, here's your pasta, here's a fucking bowl like this. You know, it's like, it's. Well, I think in Italy, the real thing is the food's different. I think our food is poison. It's so bad, right? I mean, I saw, oh my God, I saw this lady on your show. I saw a clip

talking about all these health epidemics, like the full run of stats where she was like one in two for cancer and this and that. Was it Callie Means? She was a... I think she was a doctor, right? Is she a doctor? Yeah. Well, I don't think she finished her doctorate or her medical school training because I think she got to the position where she realized that most metabolic diseases are being caused by food. But that's the thing is like that's the big takeaway I think from that is like you had this conversation with you know, I it with people all the time who travel abroad and you're just like, everything in Japan was fucking amazing. The food.

And then you look at their longevity, which is record breaking when you compare it to most of the world. Definitely compared to ours. Definitely compared to ours. Yeah, we have the worst health stats in the Western world. It's our food. Why?

Because it's all like... Because corporations. Because corporations profit off keeping you fat and sick. So the best way to make money from food is to get you addicted to food that they can sell you. So they sell you a tremendous amount of cheap shitty food that has a bunch of preservatives and garbage in it. So it's, you know, potato chips and all sorts of different snacks cheap shitty food that has a bunch of preservatives and garbage in it.

So it's potato chips and all sorts of different snacks and all sorts of different things. And then you have your enriched, air quotes, flour that's got a bunch of shit poured into it and it's a bunch of complex glutens in the grains. Then you have glyphosate, which other countries have banned, but we use everywhere. And 90 plus percent of people have glyphosate in their blood and they test it which is round up that chemical pesticide and herb We have herbicides that kill your fucking endocrine system. We have like we're poisoning ourselves really sad We're you know, we're growing stuff at home now. We have a hydroponic garden. Yeah, I talked to Christine about it It's pretty dope and it's and that's just delicious

Yeah, that's the way to go. The lettuce and the tomatoes and it gets all kinds of veggies. Tastes like real food. Yeah, you do taste the difference. 100%. Yeah, which reminds me of when you're abroad, right? Because in Italy or in Japan, you have a tomato,

you have a strawberry, and you're like, whoa. Yeah, real. And you're like, oh, this is what it's supposed to taste like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We make stuff that can sit on the shelf forever. That's why our tomatoes look like they're albino tomatoes. And they're hard.

Tomatoes are hard. Why is a tomato hard? What is that about? Why does it stay hard for weeks? Just sits there. And then we just keep ingesting that. Yeah, it's terrible. And then you get all this inflammation in your body.

And we've sort of genetically modified a bunch of things so we could feed a bunch of people, so we could have large numbers of people. And there's a benefit to that. How much of this do you think is related to the fact that we have so many more people than some of these places? Oh, yeah, that's a fact. But it's not just that.

So I think there's a bunch of factors and everybody wants to be real binary about it. Sedentary lifestyle is a big one. There's a large percentage of our population that doesn't move enough. They don't exercise. They don't do anything physical. So you got that and then you got years and years and years and years of doing that which eventually catches you Yeah, and so that's all the people that start showing up at the hospital

You know it's metabolic health right so and then you have lack of understanding of nutrition Which is they think oh you're you some fuckhead doctor that tells you just off date a balanced diet You don't need vitamins. Yeah, that doctor's fat and stupid and probably has a bunch of diseases and he's on pills himself, like shut up. Probably never even went to, through any nutrition training. In medical school, they get about six hours of nutrition training, I think. It's crazy that, especially because we have kids in school, you realize that schools still,

they don't emphasize nutrition or finance. I feel like that's another crazy thing, is to keep people from understanding how finance works at all. It is crazy, right? You're teaching kids about how to prepare yourself for the world and you don't teach them about debt and about interest.

The first thing that happens when you're a freshman in college is you walk through the student union and they go, you want a credit card? You're fucking 18. And they're like, yeah, it's got 29.9% APR it's awesome they're preying upon you yeah they're literally preying upon and the school lets it yeah the school is like yeah go ahead oh they don't give a fuck about you that's you're fucking crazy grist for the mill yeah literally you're you're

paying fucking you're in a pink $300 for a Coke you bought, you know what I mean? Cause you just like scanned it, like this is insane. Yeah, it's insane. We don't teach anybody, it's really crazy. Well, also you get it in their head that they're fucked because the debt that they're getting involved in with student loans is the only debt we have that you can't get rid of.

Yeah. The only debt. Yeah, you can't forgive that there are people right now who have Social Security getting docked. There's Social Security's getting docked For student for their student loan So they made it to death and they owe money to the government for loans that did them no good at all because they're living Off Social Security so the government gets to steal more money from your Social Security Yeah, we have to pay you. So nuts.

And meanwhile, like, today, the reality is you can get that education online. Yeah. Almost all of the books on any sort of subject are available. Mine is useless. My degree is useless. What's yours in? Communications. Well, you're a communicator. Well, yeah. Worked out. You probably, like, they use you to sell more tickets. They is useless. My degree's useless. What's yours in? Communications. Well you're a communicator. Well yeah. Worked out. You probably like, they use you to sell

more tickets. They probably do. But this guy, but look he went to our university. You should come. Learn like Tom. You know I didn't know, like you don't, I didn't learn anything. But how much did you have to pay to go to school? Oh man. Back then. How much were you in debt for? How much was the tuition? I think tuition when I was there was something like six or seven thousand a semester. So like 12, 13 a year. Which, you know, whatever. Now, fucking, tuitions now are like

50, 80 thousand dollars a year. It's great, cause imagine you take on that loan, you start your workforce, you have $300,000 in loans. And God forbid you go to graduate school. Oh my God. Compounds, and then you're never getting out of the hole. I mean, I think this is why some doctors and lawyers become sociopaths, because you are dealing with so much debt

and you realize no one gives a fuck about you, so you don't give a fuck about anybody else either. Wow. Yeah, it's great for society. Yeah. about anybody else either. Wow. Yeah, it's great for society. It's also like you there's two things that can be true right? I do think that you kind of have to kids have to like get to work and get something going and get a path in your life and when you're going to college it's like you're out of high school okay now you're on your own you're in college you got to keep up your GPA you got to get your degree let's go let. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. So there is value in that. Yeah, but then also

It's too much money and it's you're probably not gonna do anything with that that degree And if you don't have the degree people think you're a loser And it's very it's very strange. It's very strange. what's going on because you're allowing these corporations to prey upon children. Because you're an 18 year old child. You don't understand anything. You don't understand anything and then all of a sudden you're in college

and you're saddled down with unstoppable debt and you have this fucking circus of people around you that are also trapped. And you didn't understand what that meant, what you were signing up for. No way! It's the same reason like, you have a conversation with somebody who's that age,

and you're like, oh, you realize that our brains are different, right? Like you talk to like a... Yeah, they're not developed yet. They're not fully developed yet. They don't understand everything. Especially boys. Way, way more clearly.

Yeah, boys don't get developed until they're like 25. Girls are pretty They can figure out the game earlier. They're not as saddled down by testosterone Yeah, but their frontal lobe develops earlier. Yeah ours does really take till about 25. Yeah, future-retarded Yeah, but that's also how you trick them into going to war. Yeah You know, it's part of it. Okay, we need to get you know the Gulf of Tonkin terrible thing those Vietnamese did We're gonna need to send you overseas try that shit on a 40 year old guy like what no fuck what happened? Let me Google. Hey, I googled Gulf of Tonkin turns out yeah, you you guys fucking faked it But what else are you faking to get us to go to war?

Oh my god you guys fake things to start war so you can make money. That's crazy. How are you not in jail? How's no one in jail for faking things to start wars zero accountability? It's why so then you like well fuck it. They got me with the student loan They got me with this they got me with that and you just get accustomed to life fucking you Yeah, you just like oh the society just fucks you over. They just take from you, take from you, and saddle you with debt. Tell you this theory, what you're talking about applies to, I think extends to our appearances.

And what I mean is, today a lot of times people talk about how people wear like fucking flip flops and pajamas. You talking about Bird again? Yeah, well. He's not here to defend himself. I think this is rude. and flip-flops and pajamas. You talking about Bird again? Yeah, well. He's not here to defend himself. I think this is rude. But like you get on a plane

and you see people in pajamas, right? Right. And 50 years ago, they'd be like in a suit. And I think part of the reason why people, their appearance is this, I think some of it is tied to a lack of hope, meaning that so many years ago, you would embark on your path in life

thinking that there's hope. I can have the American dream. I can own the house. I can get the things I wanna get. And so many people today are like, there is no hope, so fuck it. I'll go out in my fucking sleepwear Because I don't have that I think there's a there's a connection to that Well, there's a lot to that too that if the government wants

If they want control and power which is ultimately what every government wants It's not a conspiracy theory like every government wants control and power. What's the best way to acquire control and power which is ultimately what every government wants is not a conspiracy theory like every government wants control and power What's the best way to acquire control and power have the people give up? Haven't give up. Yeah, this is fucking I give up. I give up fucking I'm wearing flip-flops. Fuck it. I don't care Because that means I'll do what you say That's what you say when you that's what's really scary to me about AI Automation and then ultimately universal basic income. You're gonna get a lot of giving up.

And then the government's gonna clamp down on you even more. And then it's gonna be haves and have-nots on a scale that we've never seen before. When you have companies that are in charge of these automated taxi services, and that's the only way people get around, And the government gives you a certain amount of credits so you don't have to ever worry about traveling. You have credits as long as you're a good boy, Tom. As long as you follow the rules, as long as you don't say anything crazy about Israel, as long as you don't do

anything nutty about vaccines, as long as you don't step out of line when it comes to the election, then you don't say anything crazy about this or about that or I mean, take your vaccines. And if that's a real possibility that they're just going to extract money out of us or attempt to control, like this is the grand battle of control. The more they have power over narratives, it's also like, there's things that are going on right now. Like we were just talking about, some friends this weekend were talking about these bot farms.

Like this evidence of bot farms that people have used to like go and attack people with certain things. Like a bunch of different countries use bot farms. to like go and attack people with with certain things like like like Bunch of different countries use bot farms. I'm sure a bunch of different corporations use bot farms, too But no one's getting in trouble for it. Like if you can Pretend that your mass groups of people that are getting upset about something You could just pretend and there's no that are getting upset about something. You could just pretend, and there's no,

you could pretend. You could just like, you can hire people to go protest and fly them in on jets. Like that's happening right now. There was this guy in Maine, and he made this video where he was hired to drive these people to the airport, and he's trying to figure out, like where are all these people going?

I'm driving this busload, two busloads full of people at the airport and he's trying to figure out like where are these where are all these people going I'm driving this busload two busloads full of people at the airport and they were saying well we're going to a protest and like what protest then he goes and googles like where they're where they're flying to it's like oh this is a paid protest hey they're paying people to show up and pretend that it's a protest so it's like there's puppet masters that are manipulating world event and that's legal. You're allowed to pay people to go protest, which seems like that should be illegal.

Like you shouldn't be able to pretend that you have an organic up, uprising against some. Well, it's giving people this illusion. Yes, which is the entire Kamala Harris campaign. I mean, that's what it was. It was the whole thing was astroturf Did you see that like it was before he left? the former FBI director talking about how China just Doesn't play ball with any international rules. Oh, I'm sure and he's like how they don't respect

IP at all. Oh, he's like they'll just come in and they'll get a spy to give them, let's say the IP of some whatever industry wind energy. They'll just take it and be like, we have it now. Start this company and then like this company goes bankrupt because they were, and they just. Fuck you. They'll fuck you.

They made shit whole Apple stores yeah that are fake Apple stores so insane everything's fake fake laptops fake phones I saw a guy too because like the the evolution cuz I was thinking about if you try to get online with one of those I'd have no idea can you get an Apple ID like does it work I can't I'm imagining that it can't but like you know I always think about the fact with AI, how we're in, we're in like version one. Right.

And we're all blown away by it already, right? Right, right. And it was a, there was a watch guy online who was like, I have two like Daytonas. Oh yeah. And he was like, dude. He goes, this is the best one I've ever seen. Fakes, yeah. And he was like, dude. He goes, this is the best one I've ever seen. Fakes, yeah.

The fake, he had to take it apart and to look at parts that were inside, like a spin wheel. He goes, oh, this is missing the logo. So which begs the question, like, what is it? Like, what are you buying? Do you want it from this company only, or do you want a Rolex Daytona?

Like, what do you want? Well, I mean, or do you want a Rolex Daytona? What do you want? Well, I mean, I think if in the case of that, you know that the movements, the actual inner workings of the real one are far superior. Are they though? I think so, yeah. Why? Yeah.

Well, I assume that. What if the other one has a 72 hour battery, or a power supply too What if what if you 3d print every single aspect of the watch? I bet it's the same thing pretty close. I guess but it can be the same thing Like we're not talking like like my watch like there's a Panerai. Yeah, this could be fake I mean, I bought it from my friend. So I'm sure it's real. Yeah, but like It's not a fake Ferrari, right right you know what I'm saying like you got a fake Ferrari like oh my god

These tires are have no traction this suspension sucks. I hate the idea of fake watch though right, but why? Well used to be poor maybe because I used to be poor. I also just don't respect The the copying of it right Right, it's bullshit. Well, you know, I wouldn't buy one because you're contributing to some, but it's kind of funny. It is kind of funny. You can get one for $40.

That's insane. It's like a $7,000 watch. It's really crazy. It's insane. And it's insane that it's tricking these watch experts, right? Yeah. But I don't really understand the... Yeah, look at these.

So one of those is fake? Yeah, the right? The one on the right is fake? Yeah. Yeah, I'd buy that. Looks perfect. I'll take it. How much?

He's pointing out. Look at you, see the difference? Like who, imagine? Who knows this on the spot? Well, also... You all know this on the spot, right? Yeah, also my vision sucks. Mine does too

So I'd have to like take it out Like this one I can't even I Guess I can read the time. Look at these date rather, but I mean there the tiny-ass. Yeah windows That's a struggle. Like if it's dark in the room reading that my vision absolutely sucks. That's incredible though. The replicas are crazy They're so good. There's, like, try making a replica 911 Turbo S. Good luck, fuckface. Good luck, fuckface. But you can make one of those. But wait, how do...

Because this, okay, I understand at least what you're doing in the watch thing, right? Then the person buys the far less expensive one, and they get the feeling, I guess, that people go, oh, you have the real one. But if you're getting an Apple product, a fake Apple product. Well, you don't know you're getting a fake Apple product

if you're in China. So they're going, the whole thing's a scam? The whole store's fake. And everyone's in on it. It's an Apple store. Do you think people that are hired think they're in? It has the fucking logo. That's an Apple fake factory rated in China.

This was 10 years ago, though. It goes on to say that it tricks the employees thought they were working out of Yeah, it's like it's layers of severance Yeah, that's really crazy you ever followed YouTube channels dance elements It's a it's it's a guy just works on cars, dope shit. And one of the things he's doing, he's building his own Ferrari F40. So instead of buying one for like three million dollars, which is, okay, I'm gonna say something

that's gonna piss off these Ferrari people. It ain't worth it. Okay, it's not worth three million dollars. It's not that good. If it was new today, you'd be be like this should be taken off the market right like this thing has zero fucking traction control but because it's a classic it's worth like a ton of money so what he's doing is making it better works stance works there's his stance elements yeah that's the that's the

right the b-boys that's the break dancers which by the way stance elements how did I fuck that up, which by the way stance elements How did I fuck that up stance elements by the way is also amazing we could talk about that But this guy stance works he this is his own that's not a Ferrari He's building it from all the parts online So he bought all the body panels online And then he made his own frame and then he bought a Ferrari engine from like a different model of Ferrari and he's putting that in it. But this is like a multi-month journey

that this dude has been on that I've been watching all the videos. Whenever he has a new video, I watch it. He does a lot of dope shit, but this is a guy that like really loves cars and he's super smart. And when he's talking about cars, it's fascinating because he's also a fan of the original M5,

which I've thought about getting one of those. Not very fast, but apparently super engaging driving experience, the original M5, which I think was like, I wanna say it was like 280 horsepower. In what year? 80 something. 80 something?

Yeah, which by the way, back, I think it was 88 maybe. Back then that was a lot. I have an 89 M3 that I bought. Ooh. E30 M3. Ooh, yeah. And I have a S54 engine going into it. Oh Jesus.

So that should be. How much is horsepower is that? I don't know, that going into it. Oh Jesus. So that should be. How much is horsepower's in that? I don't know. That's more than it came with. I have an E46 M3. Those are fun. I love it. Yeah.

It's so balanced. Yeah. It's like such an engaging driving experience. That's what I'm into. I'm into that. I'm not into chasing the lower zero to 60 times. Yeah, that's nonsense. Yeah.

Like if you ever use that on a public road, you're an asshole. But engaging cars, you could drive the speed limit and enjoy the shit out of them. Just fun, just going around a corner and just accelerating to 60. They're fun. You feel more like an old air-cooled Porsche.

You feel it, you feel it, and you're like, ah, ma, ma. Did you get that one for you? You had one being built. Yeah it's not done yet. It's real close. That's the RSR project. Yeah yeah yeah. That's fresh. Oh very excited about that. It's like 350 horsepower, 2,000 pounds. Meanwhile I have some crazy fucking car coming to me too. What do you got? This Aceto Furino 296 GTB Ferrari. It's like 700, 800 horsepower. Christ. Yeah.

I watched a, I've seen your Blazer, but I watched a video on it. Yeah. Those guys, the Velocity Motorsports guys did. Awesome. Oh my god. They're doing cool shit. Velocity did.

They really went out with that one. That one's great. They do Scouts and Broncos, but they also just started doing Mustangs. Oh, nice. I took one of the Mustangs out. Oh, nice. Very fun, I think 67 Mustangs. So you get that beautiful style.

Is that the one with the flared fender? Did you send me that? No. Did you send it to me? The green one? No, that's a different one. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I was just, every time I see something cool, like, check this shit out. I sent you the other one.

What did I send you? I sent you that, that Julia, that Italian one that the guy came to my place. Oh, yeah. That was fun as shit. I drove there. The Alfa Romeo. Yes. Yeah, I've seen that online, getting reviewed. It drove that. The Alfa Romeo. Yes. Yeah, I've seen that online getting reviewed.

It's a resto mod Alfa Romeo. Blanking on it. I don't trust my people. No? No. I have one of my people's vehicles, but generally I don't trust my people. Oh my God, I'm blanking on it.

I just think they're eating pasta and staring at ass and they're not gonna do a good job. I want want it my car is made by either Germans who do meth or Totem that's what yeah. Oh wow. Yeah, dude. I told one of these this guy came baby. Look at that. It's fucking rad Totem automobile II. I did like it a lot. I didn't order one. I didn't order it No, he's well, he's making a prototype for a whole new model. Oh! So I was like, I don't know. Wow, wow, that's so sick.

That looks like a James Bond car. It does. Look at that thing. God damn. Da da da. And it's 100% custom, you know. Ooh, I bet that thing flies. Dude, I was driving down Fairfax in LA in the rain,

and he turned off the traction control. No. Yeah turned off He turned it off. Why did you turn it off? He's like let it run explore emotion Oh, no, I guess what emotion almost ended up wrapped around a fucking light pole. Did you spin dude? I was like I corrected it But I was like panic and I was like fucking drives the fear of losing it in a Porsche that rear engine whip You know that that understeer that happens. Yeah, or oversteer. What is it called supply throttle something throttle? Oversteer when you lift when you lift throttle oversteer. Yeah, yeah, and then and then the the back end goes on Oh, yeah, that's a weird design Well, they haven't the engine out back This thing also happens in everybody's mind,

who is not, it's literally something you have to be trained, which is that when something, when you're in a car, and you're at a certain rate of speed, and you're approaching a turn or something, you feel anything going on you, you take your foot off the throttle, and what you don't realize is that that is gonna, it's gonna make things worse.

Because the momentum and the weight are gonna be carried through, and actually the only thing that'll keep you from usually losing it is to stay on throttle, not necessarily give it a ton, but you need that momentum to carry you through it. And so it's just something that, there's countless videos of somebody in their new fucking car just going, and they just

go into a tree. I just watched one on a new GT3 RS. I've seen that one. Oh, it's horrible. He's like 18. Horrible. And he did exactly that. He hits the turn, off throttle, tries to correct.

Bye. Bye bye. Fuck. Wreck. Painful to watch. Painful. But that is a bad element of that design. The rear weight.

Yeah. Yeah. But also it's like, is that really the best way to do it? Because you know, everybody always said that the Cayman is the better car if they just gave it the same sort of love that they give the Porsche. I fucking love that car. A 911. I love it.

Yeah. It's like my heart is with that car. If you go like, what's the one you're in love with the most? Still that car. But isn't it interesting that that car is not as prestigious? It's not as prestigious, yeah. Why is that?

That seems stupid. It's a whole thing too. And if you have, you'll see people like, ah, you got the Cayman, you should've gotten the 911. I'm like, you should drive this fucking thing. Yeah, but people that say that are all retarded. They kind of are. Yeah, anybody that says that is an idiot.

I mean, you don't know anything about cars. Mid-engine. Because you have a Dynan, right? No, it's not Dynan. What's the company? Dynan did my BMW. What's your company? For that one, Deman.

Rick Deman did the upgrade on that. So what that is is what it should be from Porsche. They should take that big big juicy GT3 RS engine or even crazier, take that GT2 RS. Throw it in that marriage. Throw it in that bitch. It just upsets 911 owners, that's it. It just fucks up their-

There we go, a bunch of little fairies. Prestige. If that upsets you, then you need to go find something else. You need to go do mushrooms on the mountaintop somewhere. By the way, did you like that? You feel it at all? I don't know what you're talking about. No?

Did you ever drive the GT4 RS they came out with like a year or two ago? No, I didn't. I heard it. I didn't drive it yet. I'm sure it's dope, but it's also an automatic. It's all automatic. It's PGA.

Come on, you pussies. Like, what are we doing? Why are you buying a street car? Are you a crazy track guy? Because that's a track car. Every weekend? Okay, which is fine. Yeah. Which is fine. Yeah, which is fine

Yeah, but but for the average person that like enjoy you like make an enthusiast car. That's a goddamn three pedal Yeah, make make a manual. Well, thank God they still do. Yeah, they make some I mean a lot of places just don't I still them and BMW Ford still makes them they still do with their mostangs. I can't believe that Ferrari doesn't realize that if they did just a limited run. Oh my God, it would sell like crazy. It would sell so crazy. Yeah, they gave up. They gave up.

Lamborghini gave up. I wish they would. Thank God Porsche didn't. No, I know. But they did with some cars. Like a lot of their cars, you can't get the GTS now in a five-speed. You can't.

Or excuse me, a six-speed or a five-speed you can't excuse me six speed or seven speed whatever the fuck they have now you can't get I don't think you can get the s you can't get the turbo you can't get the turbo you have to get the T or the regular maybe you can get them regular not I think you can get a regular 911 Carrera GT3 you can get still but you can't get the GT3 RS like come on guys Shut up. Just shut up. I think they're the audience Should inform them right they should know that like their their fan base. I know once all that shit manual It's like what pisses me off about Corvette to like you guys have the most dope shape now

The CA Corvette is so sick and though you you're putting out these insane ones like the z06 yeah, and the ZR one, but it's still I don't know it's got to be like that all that has to be like cost analysis, right? It's a little bit of that and what is that rogue so I kind of quit those but I thought I was gonna have a hard done. I quit him over the weekend really nothing was like this is easy I think I'm lucky with your ink. Yeah, I don't think I get physically addicted to stuff that way Except coffee. Yeah, I've done that one where I took the whole day off coffee and I was like Except coffee. Yeah. I've done that one where I took the whole day off coffee

and I was like, why am I fucking yawning? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Coffee gets me too, headaches. But I like coffee so much and coffee's everywhere. I'm like, I don't think I need to quit that one.

No. I didn't get headaches last time I tried to quit coffee. I quit for a couple of days and I was like, this is just rough. But the nicotine pouches were nothing. That's great. It was super easy I feel like I have some of that where I'm Not that physically addicted to it dude. I have friends that have like Anything gets them like I had a guy who came over here to do a podcast

And he saw that someone had sent us some kratom stuff that I want up throwing out I was like I don't't want this shit anyway. And he's like, don't take that. I can't get off of it. Get that kratom away from me. I got a real problem with it. I'm like, really? I know someone 18 years on it.

What? Yeah. What? 18 years on a shitty opium? Well, because they were using it to get off of opiates. Oh, god. And they can't go without it. Wow. But the high is so, like, whatever.

Yeah, it's not. I tried it, and then people were telling me, be careful, be careful. Oh, Duncan loved it. We had some at the club. Yeah. And Duncan's like, hey, man, you got any more of that? Got any more of that liquid heroin, man?

I was like, keep it away from Duncan. Yeah. He's so funny, dude. He's the best. He's the best. But we like had a whole box of it there that Ron White had left there and it was gone by Tuesday. I got in there on Tuesday.

Oh, so everyone went through it. Where did it all go? No, it was all Duncan. It was all Duncan. We drank all of them. I was drinking two and three a day, man. I go, dude, you, I'm supposed to drink one a day. It's like a half a dose Yeah, which is really weird. Like why did they make one of them be two doses? That's a good way to get you on to it

Yeah, it's like when you buy a bag of chips and it says like how many calories in it per serving six chips Like what do you why is this this little baggies not even a single serving You know I'm gonna eat more than that one bag. Of course. They know piece of shit. Yeah Garbage tactic to get people So predatory it's just lies you're lying about the amount of calories That's so funny, but I don't I think I'm very lucky because I know people that get addicted to weed yeah, and there I I Have gone a long time without weed and never had any problem

Yeah, people get physically Like I didn't really realize that was a thing, but I think it's just different Genetics it totally you know like look at Burt a normal person who drinks as much as him would be dead Yeah, you'd have like real liver problems, and he's he doesn't have any problems in the gym in the morning. It's crazy It's nuts, so it's like you just got to deal with the cards you dealt like why don't I have four aces? Well, you don't you don't so what are you gonna? Do yeah, I'm gonna just sit here and fucking complain about everything or what you got to figure it out Yeah, figure it out bitch. Yeah, yeah figure it out. Yeah, you need gonna just sit here and fucking complain about everything or what you got to figure it out. Yeah figure it out bitch

Yeah, yeah figure it out. Yeah, you need you know, everybody needs love everybody needs support, but everybody also needs figure it out, bitch Yeah, there's not enough of that There's really not enough of that is not because you really There's it's like there's no you don't gain anything by doing the like, how come I don't get this? It's like, how come I'm not six six? I don't know, I'm not. You just deal with it. Yeah, you gotta just deal with it.

I think that's a real problem where people, you know, if you think about like, the, you remember that documentary, The Secret, that stupid documentary? Oh yeah. Like all you have to do is like think about things and you can make them happen. Not really, that's stupid. Oh, yeah. Like all you have to do is like think about things and you can make them happen Yeah, not really. That's bullshit, but it's a part of it It's a part of making things happen like you can't just say I'm gonna fucking breathe underwater

Yeah, I'm just gonna think about it. So I could do it. No, you can't do that a shot Yeah, there's physical limitations to the human frame. There's physical limitations for your particular human frame. Yeah. You know, you can't get taller. You can't, you can lose weight. But you can't really do much other than that. Yeah. You can kind of get in good shape for what you got.

But what you got is what you got. What you got, yeah. But there's a bunch of people that just think about their problems all the time. It's an obsession. And what it does is it carries you? Through time without having to deal with the problem because you just talk about the problem, right? That's a big one I know so many people who do that focus is your problems. Yeah, rather than your solutions

Do you know me people who live in Guatemala in a fucking dirt floored? Shack would love your problems. You know, your problems are not that big a problem if you're living in America and you have your health. You need that perspective change from people. Exactly. Yeah, there's a big thing of like, if your problems become your identity,

it's a fucking, because I know people like that, right? That you're like. Have you ever seen that video, the final boss of Woke, it's like this one trans man who's like, I'm a disabled trans man, I'm also on food stamps, I also have like a phone.

It's a real person? And it's, Donald Trump is trying to erase me. And it's like, this is the identity. Like there's this, this is existential battle, but this final boss has everything wrong with him. Yeah. You're not him. You're a girl pretending to be a man.

So it's like, you've got everything wrong and it just keeps going on and on. Have you seen this Jamie? Do you know what it is? It sounds like somebody should try to get on stage. No, big fat stupid face. It's not gonna work. The whole thing is just like, it's so crazy that people will just like, there's a value

and a currency to being a victim. Yes. And so they'll add stuff that's not- Social media has also helped that a lot because there's plenty of people that don't want to deal with their shit. That'll go. Yes, girl. You go. Yeah. Society's doing this to you. Yeah. Did you hear about that lady that got fired from Equinox in Manhattan? She was late 47 times in 10 months and she sued because of race.

She said she got fired for racism, and she won. She won. It's a jury, and she won $11 million. No. Yes, she did. No, she was late 47 times. Not only that, like you were working at Equinox. Like, you could work for all of time,

and you'll never make $11 million. Yeah. Like, you're not gonna make eleven million dollars, we're gonna need Granox. But yet you won, and she only worked there for ten months. She was late 47 times in ten months. And that's why they were firing her? Like they're like, you're just perpetually late.

They're like, bitch, you are always late. And then she's like, that was so racist. That's crazy. And she won, and she took him to court and won. They're definitely gonna appeal that shit. Of course they're going to appeal. But the thing is when you have a jury, you have a jury of people so fucking stupid

they don't get out of jury duty. Yeah, exactly. And they might be like, fuck Equinox man, that fucking fuck the man, man. Because that guy's just too lazy to go to the gym. Yeah, man, you have a fucking fuck the man man cuz that guy's just too lazy. Yeah, go to the gym Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck of course not just that it's a corporation. You don't think of it as an individual That's a company that's gonna fuck you over. That's why people don't feel bad stealing from work

Yeah, you know you don't feel like you're stealing if someone was working in your house And they were stealing from you like they stole your force. Where's my fucking fork? Yeah I like you find out a guy I work for you stole your fork like you're fucking fired I got an office It's like someone like takes a fork home like if you have a kitchen in your office We use a bunch of forks for staff. Yeah, and someone takes that fork. It's no big deal It's the offices we just need to order more forks man These fucking forks keep disappearing and you go over Tom's house one day and like Tom's got four of the office forks like did you steal the office forks?

I forgot I forgot keep forgetting them back. They don't belong to somebody right exactly. It's not a human Yes, a corporation which is also why corporations can act like fucking psychopaths Yeah, because they're also not a human so they could just do whatever the fuck they have to do Which is why our food supply so bad because they're just trying to maximize profit They literally have a duty to maximize profit. My mom definitely thinks of Corporations as they can deal with it Of course and I remember my dad used to tell this story that when when they first got married They're at a Holiday Inn and they were leaving and then he was like, what is that in the suitcase?

And it was their towels and she was like the towels and he's like you can't take that she was like why? Because it belongs to the Holiday Inn It's theirs and she was like they have them like a hundred of them and he's like, yeah, it's not ours that we can She's like it's fine And like everywhere I've gone with her she's like, oh, you know she'd be like can I take this? We've been up we've been places where I've been like hey, sorry my mom wondering if we could take this glass Yeah, and then I saw a video you were showing your mom these clips. Oh, yeah the clips from your new Netflix Amazing it was amazing. I knew it was I knew it was gonna be a killer

I was like she's gonna hate it and they were like, okay, so we set up a private screening for her It's also like why am I watching this? I don't know if you know, but you're my mom She's like Dude, she fucking that she hated the show so much. She's like sure dude, she fucking, she hated the show so much. She's like, she came over yesterday for Mother's Day. And I was like, she goes, so. Because on the rest of that thing, she made me promise that we're going

to cut the first story. She's like, you're definitely not going to use that, right? So eventually I was like, yeah, we're cutting it. And so yesterday she was like, did you cut it? I go, of course not. It's fucking, it's Netflix's. And she was like, you promised or you lied to me. And I'm like, mom, I can't be like, hey, don't air the first one.

She's like, well, that means you lied to me. So I'm never coming to a show again, and I'm never gonna do anything like related to any of your stuff. And I go, promise? That would be love if you never came to a show again. Do you know how much of a fucking burden it is to have to babysit when you're there? I was talking to Shane Gillis about a bit he does

where people getting upset, people he knows getting upset about a bit. Oh yeah. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll stop doing that. Shut the fuck up. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. She found out by the way, I was on Chrissy D and Yannis' podcast

the day the Pope died or the day after. I was in New York and we're podcasting and I was like, oh, cause my mom's like hardcore Catholic. And I was like, let's call her and just check on her. And I go, we'll just try to see if maybe the Jews did it. So I call her, I'm like, did you hear about the Pope? And she's like, I am devastated, Tommy.

I go, I don't know what happened, if he was sick, if it was the Jews. And she's like, what? And like, we had to cover our mouths. We had to cover our mouths and mute the phone. She's like, she goes, this is the craziest call I've ever received. The Pope died, do you think the Jews did it? I'm like, I had to hang up the phone?

And then like a week later, she goes, I was on YouTube and I find that you called me on a show to talk about this. I was like. She's finding, found herself on YouTube. She found the clip, yeah. You called me on a show to talk about this. Yeah, she's funny! Founders Gal if you took... She found the clip, yeah. She found the endless well of us fucking with her on YouTube. Oh my god, that's so funny.

Speaking of the Jews, have you seen fucking Kanye's new song? Bro. Bro. What is... What? Here's the thing. What? First of all, kinda catchy.

Well, that's the problem with it. That's the problem. It's like, the guy from production, like he's never lost a step. He can make a beat, he can, like he's so talented. He's a genius. He's a talented producer, man. I do think it's like, when, first of all,

I think people are kind of done asking him questions, because most of the shit he puts out is like self-release kind of commentary or thoughts. Because he's saying just crazy, you know. This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. But there is a thing where that song is like, what are you doing, dude? Like, what are you doing? It's the ultimate pushing back. Yeah, I guess. But there is like, I think I have a pretty, you know know let things go kind of vibe to me obviously

Show yeah, I chose ridiculous. It's ridiculous show and I've always been like yes say whatever you're gonna say But I do think like making a catchy song about that. I'm like, what are you doing, man? Like you're just kidding at a minimum. You're just gonna get more people that think it's cool to say highlight Like I think the minimum well, I think it's cool to say, Hile Hitler, like that's at the minimum. Well, I think that's part of the program. Yeah. I think it's part of what he's trying to do. But I mean, is that cool to do?

I guess if you're like, well, it's fun to troll the masses and get them to do that, okay. But what I'm saying is that like at a minimum, you're gonna get less educated people to go like, this is a fun thing to say. And you're like, I mean, is that good? You really want people just walking around, be like, you know, it's tight, man.

How Hitler, like that's fucking insane. It's crazy. It is crazy. But it's also kind of a sign of the times. I guess. This is a chaotic world we're living in. Yeah. And it's like, okay, this kind of highlights the benefits.

I mean, I want to say this carefully, because I don't want to think any, I want to say real clearly, I do not support people saying that. I don't think it's a good thing to say. I don't say it. I certainly don't think, I don't think any racism is good I don't think anti-semitism is good I don't think anti Christianity is good I don't think Asian hate is good I don't

think anything is good but there's a benefit to just letting people talk like let people say whatever the fuck they want to say even if it sucks this is the benefit of Twitter. But this is also the bad part. It's like the fucking song has so many millions of hits on Twitter. It's been banned from every platform. But is it good to ban things from platforms or is it better to let it be out there and let people talk about it?

Because if you ban it, then people want to hear it more. And then it becomes more popular, and then it kind of supports what he says, which is that there's this concerted effort, if you talk about Jewish people, that they're gonna remove you from everything, remove you from banking, which is what he's saying, they run everything.

So if they didn't, like if it was just, you were talking shit about Puerto Ricans, look what happened to Tony, nothing. Yeah. He's doing great. Yeah. You know what I I mean like if there's certain people that you're allowed to pick on and and make jokes about or or mock or Say something and You you can get away with it. Yeah. Well, I think he's made his point. I think we all get it now It's never gonna end. Yeah, how does it end? This is the question when I was watching that song

First of all, I was by myself. When I first saw the song, I was like, what is this? Like, no way. It was like, no way, no way. And I'm watching on my phone like, yo. And then my first thought was, how does this end? Because this ends. This is gonna end.

There's gonna come a time where they're gonna realize this is a problem. So how does it end? Does it end in assassination? Does it end in financial ruin? Yeah. I don't know what his financial situation is. I know that there's been all these,

over the last five years, there's been times where his net worth has been reported at such a crazy amount, and then I remember funds were frozen, and he was like I don't have anything and then it was like all back I don't know what his financial situation where they can't steal your money yeah but they can debank you yeah where no one will bank with you right so it's like what how does that work like where do you get your ATM card yeah is it from the Bank of fucking Portugal

like what do you have to do like how does that work you know what I thought about when I was when I was watching that video I was like how do you like how do you get I? Don't know however many actors. That's easy. That's the easy part. I think it's crazy I think a lot of people would be like what oh, that's easy part you put out a casting call in LA Everyone's soulless. They have no fucking soul nuts. They just want to get famous. You're gonna do a project with Kanye. Okay, let's go Let's do it. Also. I'm just acting just like that guy named glorious bastards wasn't really a Nazi, right? I'm not really an aunt see listen, man. I gotta do what I gotta do. I got kids to feed. Yeah, it's nuts It's pretty nice. He's look he's super talented man

I one of my thoughts after hearing that song was like man I wish he would release the song with like a different, you know, I mean with a different hook like Yeah, personally happen. No, I know he's not going to but that's what I one of my thoughts was I was like man I wish you he would it's so crazy. It's so crazy because his last album before that was a banger It's like he came out of the gate Showing people that like he came out of the gate showing people that he's still got it. Yeah, you might have pulled me off all these platforms.

You might have debanked me. You might have taken away my Yeezy deal with Adidas, but damn, I still got it. And that one was released everywhere, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh man, that's in the Spotify playlist that we play in the green room all the time. There's some fucking killer songs in that band.

Yeah, he's, he's. Classics. Yeah. Classics. He's got so many bangers. Yeah. But you know, this one, he's just like letting people, I guess in his eye, I mean, I don't know.

I haven't talked to him about it, but I guess he's like, I'll do whatever the fuck I want. I'm gonna say whatever the fuck I want. Yeah, clearly. So I'm gonna do the one thing that you. I'm gonna say whatever the fuck I want. Yeah, clearly. So I'm gonna do the one thing that you're never ever ever supposed to do. I'm gonna make a catchy song, it's Heil Hitler. Yeah, yeah.

That's just like, whoa. That is the ultimate like, whoa. I'll do whatever the fuck I want. Yeah, and you had to say like in the casting, there's like a description of all the stuff, if you wanna be a part of this production, like you have to be comfortable with swastikas. Is that what's in the-

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a diamond encrusted swastika. That's also insane, dude. By the way, you know a Jew sold him that. Probably. Or at least applied to diamonds. Where the diamonds come from? That's insane.

Jewish people have been controlling diamonds for a long time. It's insane. They're very smart about the diamonds, because the diamonds aren't even really that valuable anymore. You know what's fucking crazy in jewelry? Because see, this is one thing I don't trust about. There's certain businesses where you're like, I don't know what I'm looking at. So like a car, for instance, you have the reference to go,

how much should this cost? Right. Right? So it gives you some personal. Right, you see a Lamborghini, you know, that's like a $300,000 car. And you can like check with people. Yeah, yeah. But like a piece of jewelry.

Right. This guy who I bought a watch from was like, this jewelry is like, you know, this ring or whatever, it's like, whatever, $50,000 or something. I was like, oh wow. He's like, do you want it? I was like, I don't know. And then like a month or two later,

he sent me the same thing. He's like, trying to move this now. Do you want it for like 20? What? And I was like, I didn't, I was like, it's 20? He's like, yeah, I'm just trying to move it now. What does that mean? What do you owe on it? What's it really cost? That's what I'm saying.

And so you kind of go like, wait a minute. So I was gonna pay $30,000 more for it? That would just go to you? That's so gross, right? It is gross. I would never trust that guy again. It just really turned me off, man. Well, you know, it's really kooky.

Fake diamonds that are real diamonds. Girls don't want them. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, That's so gross right it is gross. It's just really just really turned me off. Well. You know it's really cool Fake diamonds that are real diamonds. Yeah girls don't want them right I was reading this whole thing about the demand and supply for lab created diamonds that are Absolutely diamonds they're not fake diamonds. It's a real diamond, but it's not a diamond That's pulled out of the ground by slaves. It's just lab generated. Yeah, it's a real diamond, but it's not a diamond that's pulled out of the ground by slaves It's just lab-generated. Yeah, it's not like a blood diamond. So like well and girls are like I don't want that It's not real. Oh, no, it's not real. I want someone to suffer first What's not that what it is is the same thing is not wanting a fake Rolex even though it's like

Physically the exact same thing as a Rolex. But that's at least a brand, like if you're a person who loves engineering and craftsmanship, like I don't want to, you know, someone to rip off someone's work. Like that's art. Like your watch, that's a piece of art. It's a piece of art. So that makes sense you wouldn't want a fake piece of art. Yeah, it's a piece of art. Yeah, so that makes sense You wouldn't want a fake piece of art, but a diamond is just it's just elements compressed over time. Yeah, they figured out how to do that where they make perfect diamonds Fraction of the cost of me. Yeah, but the demand is super low. Yeah Wow 99% less

99. Oh, 99? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, in some cases. Especially the big ones. Yeah, I was gonna say, you can get like a three carat diamond. Yeah, right, right, right. Little ladies don't want them. Yeah. I mean, I've been wanting.

It's so crazy. I'll know. That's one of the things. I'll feel cheap. That I feel so. Do you think I'm cheap? Yeah. They don't want that shit, dude. She finds out that what you got her Cheap that I feel so She finds out that what you got her it was like the the shittier version But it's not even shitty or right now. It's like lab created diamonds are actual diamonds. It's literal alchemy

Remember like in like the old days like they were trying to figure out a way to use like all these chemicals to make gold Those with alchemists are for like Kings would spend Insane amounts of money on these alchemists to try to get these alchemists to figure out a man you fact I think I can make gold for you sire. Yeah, I need a laboratory And these dudes are sniffing fucking mercury all day and dying young It's the craziest thing to spend on. But imagine if the lady's like, no, you made that gold in a lab. I don't want it.

I don't want it. I want real gold that's from Africa that came out of the ground. Yeah, we just want the real thing. I want the real stuff that they picked out of the river. I want the real stuff they got from Alaska. I want the real stuff. You don't want the... but it's just gold, I want the real stuff. You know what?

But it's just gold, baby. It's gold. It's just an element. It's, you know. Who cares where it's from? No. No. I want stuff that's forged inside of a sun.

How many women out there do you think to rock something that they're so proud of that if they go to get it assessed, it has to happen all the time. It happened to my family. It did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't wanna say say who yeah, but someone

Relative not like close. Yeah, but broke up with the guy and found out that it was a cubic zirconium. That's hilarious Lol, that's very funny, but perfect for that guy. I was like that guy's such a piece of shit I knew it. I could have told you it was a fake diamond That's so funny. I laughed so hard. Yeah, so she took it to the jeweler I guess well, she's like I gotta break up with this guy. I don't have any money I mean she's she's living with this shyster this fucking guy who's like a just dirt bag and you know But had some money, but not real money. Just like it just bullshit artist. Yeah, just like oh, he's a bullshit artist I gotta leave him. Oh

Fuck fuck shit. She like like I'm gonna you know, I've 10 grand. Yeah, so this right, oh, he's a bullshit artist. I gotta leave him. Oh, fuck. Fuck. So she like, I'm gonna, you know, I have 10 grand. Yeah. Sell this right. Like, I'll give you a hundred bucks. It's worth nothing. They didn't want any of it. They didn't. It's not worth anything. That's fake. Fake diamonds worth zero money. Zero looks exactly like, like if you're in a party, if you go to a party, if you're a woman, you have this beautiful big ass fucking rock and you walk in and everyone's like, look at her ring, oh my God, it's sparkling. Nobody knows, nobody has any idea that it's fake. No one knows.

I mean, literally, again, it's not a fake Ferrari. Well, that was the thing, Chad Ocho-Sanko, the football player, because a lot of the athletes, they rock diamond earrings and stuff. He was like, yeah, I wear fakes. He's like, especially because if I'm, I wear fakes. He's like, especially because like, if I'm, whether it was on the field or going out,

he was like, I have a real one at home. You know, I was like, I go out, I wear the fake one. Well, he saved a lot of money. A lot of money. He was also like, always very on top of like, not overspending. Very smart dude, very smart dude. For everything except fighting.

He has this very bizarre idea. Like him and Shannon Sharp argue all the time Bizarre idea that he could like fight MMA guys and that's crazy. That's crazy. Well, it's the reason why we such a great athlete Yeah Confidence crazy. It's just unstoppable belief in yourself, which listen He's such a great athlete that if he did compete in MMA, he probably would be a world champion because he's got that, like if Michael Jordan decided he was gonna, if MMA existed when Michael Jordan was alive, he'd probably be the light heavyweight

champion of the world. He'd probably figure out a way to fuck everybody else up. And also like this drive, this championship mindset, there's just rare humans that choose to focus on football or soccer or basketball or whatever it is. The thing they get obsessed with. But if they put the same amount of energy from the same amount at an early enough age, there's certain barriers that cannot be overcome. And one of them is physical maturity. Once you're 36 years old, if you start boxing at 36 years old,

I don't care what, you're not going to be a. Yeah, it's too hard. It's too hard. Yeah It's as we saw with like Francis and God and we find Anthony Joshua. Yeah, that's the difference You know, you can't just jump on in and fight like an Olympic gold medalist. It's like been doing it his whole life He's gonna do things to you. Yeah, you're not gonna know what he's doing and he's gonna crack you. He's just... But the reason why he thinks that, like, Ocho Senko thinks that, is because he was a fucking monster athlete. He's like, he knows how hard he works.

He knows how gifted he is. But he just thinks... But if, you know, you put him in there with a guy, like a Drekos Duplisi or something like that, he gets fucking mauled. No, that. Yeah, yeah fucking malled now He's thinking yeah, because he was a fucking precision route runner like great And someone's mounting you drilling elbows in your eye socket. I know it doesn't matter like it doesn't matter Yeah, you don't know how to block them. You don't know how to stop the rear naked choke

You know you don't know how to stop the trip You don't know which way to roll on a heel hook like They're like I'll figure that shit out. No You're gonna get your knees ripped apart. Yeah get knocked unconscious Yes, like this reality, but it's I love the fact that people think that way There's a lot fun that think like that outspoken. It's my mentality. Yeah. Yeah my mentality. I can't lose Yeah, I understand it I have that stupid part of my brain too, but I'm also smart enough to go, hey, fuck face.

Like I have two people in my head. Yeah. I have like this. I can do it. I have the general who tells me what to do, and then I have like the soldier that's like, wait a minute. Yeah.

This is gonna get me killed. Yeah, yeah. This is fucking, I'm not running with a hand grenade into all these bullets flying my way. No. And you know enough, seen enough fighting to know what your limits are especially with martial arts is the big one It's like you don't know man There's little tiny dudes that can choke you to death and you have no idea you in your mind

You're like they get new shit to me. Yeah motherfucker. I could bench 300 pounds. Yeah, and next thing you know arm drags You have to you're dead you're dead it's over that's why it's good It's good to do like to even try all those things like I've done a little bit of you know boxing striking I've done a little bit of jiu-jitsu. It's great to have the awareness. You're like, oh wow, this is gonna happen. It's a nice wake up call. Yeah, when I first started doing jiu-jitsu, I was already a very accomplished striker. I was really good at striking,

so I was like, I know how to fight. And then I went to jiu-jitsu class, I got my ass kicked every day. I was like, this is crazy, I was so wrong. I have this completely distorted idea of my abilities. Yeah. Yeah, it really humbles you, right? It's a lot of people walking around out there,

especially men, that just think they know how to fight. It's like a terrible thing to find out on YouTube. Like, to see people find out that you don't really know how to fight. You just think, you know, you're gonna bluff your way. I think that's the male thing. Men think they know how to fight. You just think you're gonna bluff your way. I think that's the male thing. Men think they know how to fight, that they're funny, that they fuck good,

and that they can drive. Those are like the four things. They're like, I can do all this shit. Yeah, delusions. There's like manly things you don't want someone to be better than you at. Yeah. And you get delusional things.

Those four are the ones that like come up the most, I think. Yeah, pool's another one. Shoot pool? Yeah, a lot of guys pretend they're good at pool. Yeah. I've had a bunch of dudes say they play good pool. I'm like, really?

Let's find out. Let's find out. Are there, do any ever surprise you that they are pretty good? Never. Never? Not one. Not one.

Nope. Wow, that's actually, I thought you would find at least a couple. Nope. So they're always like, I a couple. No, so they're always like No, usually people that are really good at pool. They'll tell you like oh, yeah, I used to play a lot played a lot of tournaments I did this like that like where did you play clear and they're like, oh, I played at Chelsea Billiards in New York City Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Did you do a lot of tournaments? Yeah, I did a lot of gambling I was fucking me up in high school. Like okay this guy I get it You you know what you're talking about, but the guy's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did a lot of gambling. It was fucking me up in high school. Like, okay, I get it.

You know what you're talking about. But the guy's like, yeah, man, I'm fucking good at pool. I'm like, are you? Where do you play? It's like going bars, mostly. Like, right. So it's one of two things happening. Either they're trying to sucker you into a game

and they are really good at pool, or they're delusional. And every time I've ever experienced it, it's delusional. There's a lot of people do it like famous people Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah a bunch. Yeah, like I'm pretty good bring them over I don't want to say names but bring them over onto the table. No, what the fuck? Oh, you have to tell me these names after you afterwards. Yeah. Yeah It's fun. That's it's fun to see somebody. Yeah, it's fun

But you know, it's one of those things that people like like a lot of men want to think they're good at poker like I could read people like sure Oh, yeah, that's another one dudes think they're good playing cards Oh, it's great Ari Shafir when we were at the store Ari for years many a living playing poker He made a living doing that 100% He would go and play in the bicycle club and all those... So he was pretty good. Or he was very good at poker. But he would tell you, but like, all these people think they can play.

They don't know what the fuck they're doing. Because they play stupid. Like, he's just intelligent and calculated. Yeah. He knows... You know who's really good? Who? Philip Lee and his wife.

Oh, really? They play in tournaments. Oh, wow. Margarita and Phillip, they play in tournaments. So does Bruce Buffer. Bruce Buffer played in the World Series of Poker. I never got into poker, and I remember when I was working in post production, like in the early 2000s.

It was starting to get more and more, like now it's I think immensely popular, but there was like an uptick when they started to like televise it. You know what it was? You know what made it uptick? No. You could see the cards when it had home. You know who'sise it. You know what it was? You know what made it uptick? You can see the cards.

When at home. You know who's got what. You know who's got what. Right. So you're watching it play out. That's a huge element. That's true. That's on home. Cause Anthony Girodano, my friend from the UFC, who he does all the UFC direction. He's done my comedy

specials too. He explained it to me. He's like, the moment you can see those cards, that changed the game. Because now it made it exciting for people to watch. Because you're watching people play poker, you don't know what anybody's hand is until the end. This is stupid. But if it's like you got a camera,

so like as they fan open their cards, there's a camera under the table. And it shows you what they got. And it shows you what everybody's got. Like, ooh. That's more exciting. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, oh yeah, it's way more fun.

Dude, I don't even know how to play poker, and I would accept invites to poker games. And what happens is, you start playing with how you think to play, and people start, when they don't know you, they're like, this guy, he's either fucking really ballsy and good, or he's a retard. And that's what would happen to me, is like, couple games in, people were like, He's either fucking really ballsy and good or he's a retard

Like and that's what would happen to me is like couple games in people were like, okay Yeah, this guy and then pretty soon they're like, do you play poker? And I was like, I'm not really sure what we're doing here They're like get the fuck out of here man. Well, they're also want to rob you. Yeah, that's a big thing, too Yeah, you're a a big fish. Well I wasn't I wasn't at all that at the time. No no no I was just like going like with people from work you know I was just like doing it socially. That's got to be a lot a thing where a lot of people like that are really wealthy that get into gambling. Oh be a target. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah. Well that's a big thing with pool players too is occasionally poker players because poker players a lot of them they gamble on a bunch of different stuff you know a lot of them are just gambling addicts totally and so there was a always a bunch of poker

players that would play pool and they were kind of okay a pool but they would get insane spots like say if like I knew this guy that was playing one pocket for like a hundred thousand dollars a set and One pocket is a weird game where the pool table has six pockets. Yeah, and so like if we were playing one pocket You would have this pocket on the right out of this pocket on the left and there's 15 balls And so all I have to do is make Eight balls in your my hole and I win the game. Okay, normally But if you don't know how to play and I'm trying to sucker you into playing me. I go. Okay, listen, I Will spot you on 15 ball game. I'll spot you 13 balls

13 13 balls you just have to get to we're gonna play for big money. We're going to play for big money. We're going to play for a race to five for $100,000. So that means whoever, and a game of one pocket takes a long time. It's not like a game of nine ball. A game of nine ball, you could be done in two minutes. You just run the rack, you know, like a good player. Because anywhere you can go. Yeah.

But in this case you have to go in one exactly one pocket and and you can't leave a shot because if you're playing a good player, so like if if You were playing what if like okay me let's say me because I'm like a what I would call I'm like what's called a B player like I can't beat pros but compared to regular people. Oh my god you How do you play so good? Regular people don't know how to play, that's why it is. But if I played like a pro,

like if I played like my friend Fader Gorst, who's like world champion, like I would probably need like, out of 15 balls, I'd probably need 11 balls to have a chance. And even then I'm probably getting robbed Really yeah, cuz he's just gonna He's gonna figure out a way to never leave me a shot

And then he was gonna calculate when he has a shot Can he open up the stack and then run all the other balls cuz you don't break like you break with eight ball when you? Break with one pocket. It's a very calculated game, and it's a big gambling game The most money gets spent on like I was just watching online the other day a game. They're playing for $240,000. Yeah, it was was a match for $240,000. I think it was a three-day match I gotta watch one of these it's the pressures insane But this guy Justin Bergman who's like one of the best players in the world was playing this guy and he gave him a crazy spot I think it was I think it was it might have been like

He had a it was something crazy like 10-6 or something like that Where he had a he had to make 10 balls the other guy to make six balls and the guy was a good player too And so if you're so this is like it's more like chess almost it feels like right because you're like they're calculating like how do you risk reward because like say you might have a long spot in your hole and if you make it you have all these balls and you can run out the set you can run out the game mm-hmm but if you miss you're selling out and this guy only has to make six balls and he might be able to make six balls and it's any six exactly any six wow it's just any ball just has to be in your hole

in any order. It's not a thing, it's not like a rotation game, like one through nine or eight ball where you're like, I got stripes, you got solids. It's just, anything goes. Any ball in that hole. And like the really, really good players can spot you that much and you still don't have a chance.

You don't have a chance. And there's really good players, like there's a guy named Tony Chohan who's real famous. His nickname's T-Rex. And he's like a big time money gambler. And there's another guy named Scott Frost, who's a friend of mine, who's like one of the biggest one pocket players of all time.

Guarantee you Scott Frost has gambled over the course of his life, millions of dollars have changed hands with Scott Frost playing really pocket Yeah, he's like one of the best one pocket players like literally ever and these guys are playing You know, they'll meet up in Kentucky They'll they'll have steak horses and then people on the rail. So all the people that are watching are gambling. They're all So you might have a you know, there might be a set that's being played for half a million dollars.

Fuckin' A. Yeah. Like this one that I was watching, the Justin Berkman one, was $240,000 they were playing for. Fuck. Yeah. And who knows how many people are gambling on the socket. That's what I'm saying. It's generating a lot more. Oh, it's crazy. That's when you think about, like,

I think it's easy to forget when you're just into, like, the game, like, the amount of money that changes hands week to week with the NFL. Oh God. Oh my God, dude. Oh my God, oh my God. Billions of dollars. Billions.

Billions. Has to be, has to be. It is such a gambling machine. Oh yeah. And the NFL kinda goes like, no it's not. No. It's about the gridiron. But then they also got to the point where it's like, no, it's not. You know? It's about the gridiron. You know, like, ah. But then they also got to the point where it's like,

you know, they couldn't ignore it. Because then you have sponsorships, right? Of like, there's gambling sites. Like, we're the official gambling site. So it's all intermingled now. DraftKings. Yeah, we're just part of it. Listen, I'm all for you being able to do

whatever the fuck you want to do. Yeah. I like it. I don't like rules that regulate people's stupidity. I think if you want to do flips on your dirt bike, you should be able to do that. So you should also be able to gamble your life away. If you want to do that. I don't think you should.

Yeah. But I believe in Darwinism. I believe you're supposed to let people like lose everything. Yeah. 2024, $148.7 billion gambled. That's interesting because that's what Doge found they spent on transgender animal studies, the exact amount. That's, no.

Bro, that's so much money. $148 billion, it's like. Three a really weak come listen compared to what the United States government chews up every day. That's not no, that's true This is just the United States to this doesn't include that's so crazy And that's just football. No. No, it's all sports, but most all sports gotta be mostly football But yeah, it's a lot of football. There's been a lot of scandals with the NBA, right? Well, yeah the the referees shaving points Donahay I think that was a nut There's gotta be a lot of those dirtbags out there which totally makes sense And it's so funny too because the NBA there's probably like in football

There's this thing that happens where like every single down you could call holding if you wanted to holding just Every single down, you could call holding, if you wanted to, holding just happens in every play, right? Right. Every play. But what they tend to call are egregious holds, meaning that the guy who's the defender is going past you and you see the offensive guy's arm extended, pulling the jersey, they're like, I would call that. Basketball, it is so ticky tack what can be called

and what can be ignored and what is ignored and what is called and it's just like ref to ref. Like there's these clear palming, traveling charges. Like you see it sometimes, you're like, what was that? Like fingertips graze the guy's arm, and they fucking call the foul, and then somebody gets hacked, no foul and it's just you kind of go well It's just like in the moment of the game and like if that guy wants to be dirty like that one was mm-hmm

You can make some money. Oh my god Yeah And if you got you're working for the mob or something like that like this is your job Your job is to shave points your job is to make sure that this these guys don't score as much They just keep calling the fouls on the other guys sending you to the foul line and God keep that spread open It's really gross man. Yeah, there's a real problem with it with MMA too. Is there really? Yeah. Yeah, there's a real problem with MMA with Here's a problem with MMA gambling incompetent judging. Well, that's the problem with MMA gambling, incompetent judging. Is it incompetent or is it dirty? Dirty.

With boxing too. Yeah. We've never seen anything. Oh yeah. Because even the lay person can watch someone beat the shit out of somebody and be like, this guy's fucking whooping this guy's ass. And then the decision go the other way

and you're like, what happened? There's been a few decisions like that. There was one lady in Vegas and she got barred from ever judging fights again. So there's a few fights that she was involved with, everybody was like, what the fuck? And she was the common denominator. I don't know if she's ever been charged,

I don't wanna mention her name, but I know that there was like a real issue. It was a real issue with world title fights, Where people were like, how the fuck is this? Because if, say if like you're, say it's Canelo Alvarez is fighting someone that you know he's gonna win. You know he's gonna be, but you can place a prop bet on it being a split decision or a majority decision.

All you have to do is get one person to say it's a draw. And that's it. And like, look, he's gonna win. He's gonna win. He's gonna win either way. But if I want to place a shit ton of money on this one thing, some dirty judge could score a draw. And you just have to convince that dirty judge,

like just listen, doesn't matter, you're not affecting this guy's career, he's gonna get the win, no one's gonna remember, just make it a majority decision. And you just gotta justify why you thought, I'm a big fan of defense. I think the other guy just like, he blocked a lot of punches, I thought it was great.

It's really, it's, there's so many I feel like in combat sports where the judging is. Because it's so subjective. But it's just, for a fighter, the crazy thing is you lose half your purse. Because you might get 100,000 to fight and then 100,000 dollars to win. And so if they hit you with a bullshit decision,

you lost 100 grand because some hometown decision or some corruption yeah it's really unique that you have a sport when you think about it where there's a subjective right winner right it's not like football right we're like this is the score yeah basketball ball goes in the net score you could shave point you could bullshit you know yeah but point you could bullshit, you know Yeah, but if you got it if you're playing Michael Jordan, he's gonna score on you. Yes, like you what are you gonna? I gonna stop them. You're not gonna stop them, right? So like the numbers he puts up or the numbers he puts up but in boxing and in MMA like remember when Roy Jones lost

In the Olympics. Do you remember that? Yes. Yes. Yes. He lost the Olympics in Korea Yeah, and he fucked that dude up. He beat that dude from pillar to post. 100%. It was nationalism. It was like, it was in Korea. Koreans are very proud. And they're like, he won. Like, what?

Yeah, yeah. Roy Jones Jr., in his prime, in the Olympics. I mean, not even in his prime yet. He fucked that guy up. Fucked that guy up. And there's been a few decisions like that in boxing where you like how what was this the one? Cuz I watched a video on this I think recently too where I was like, oh, what was the explanation where it was Kennedy Tim? Right is that his name the fighter Tim Kennedy, right? Is that his name? Sure fighting the the Cuban guy. Yeah

Well, Romero. Yeah. Yeah. That was a really bad one. That was bad. That was a bad one. Yeah, that was a... Where like, you know, I don't know if that's the referee's fault or whatever, but he didn't get off of his stool. So Kennedy, Tim had rocked him real bad

at the end of the round, like real bad. And then Yoel came, went to his corner, wobbling fucking out of it. And at the end of the one minute break that you're supposed to have, sat on the stool. It should be, it's over. It's over. It should be, it's over.

But he got an additional, I wanna say, more than 30 seconds to recover before he got, and then he wound up beating Tim. But also, psychologically, for the guy who was fucking him up, for Tim, it's like, no, this fight is over. You're fucking me. I'm getting fucked here.

And so then your brain starts to... And then you get out of your fight mindset, which has to be zen. Because you're getting into the injustice mindset. Like, why isn't anybody fucking doing anything? And that was just like an oversight. It was crazy. I don't know who, I don't wanna pass Blaine,

but someone fucked up. It should have been, in my mind, one minute, get up, are you gonna get up? Fight's over, this guy won. That's it, he retired on his stool, fuck you. Fight's over, that's what it should have been, in my mind. Also, when the fight, when the round does go over one minute and the guy doesn't get up

You've you put a burden on Kennedy that is just like Totally unfair. Yeah, totally unfair Especially when he was rocking him at the end of the round like this. This is like the more time he gets to recover There's a reason why in boxing only get ten seconds Yeah, you know the more time he gets to recover the more it's possible that he can win This is not fair. Yeah, like it's supposed to be one minute and that's it if the fight doesn't restart at one minute He's not ready. It's over. Yeah So that's only happened once and unfortunately for Tim it happened to him. Yeah, that does suck

It was a bummer. Yeah, it was a bummer because yo, ol Romero went on to mean Yeah, well was a freak of all freaks So like yeah, the guy could recover and he was also like just built like a superhero No, he looked like a goddamn part of the Cuban athlete program. Yeah traps and the head Everybody who fought him said that like hitting him hurt hitting him. So he was like he's made out of metal They all said that. Everybody said like, Robert Whittaker who beat him twice,

who was the middleweight champion, he's like, every time you hit him it hurt you. Like he's just different. Yeah. Freaky guy. Yeah, so like if Chad Ocho-Shinko thinks he was gonna beat that guy. No.

Like, listen bro. No. Like there's people like you out there that also really know how to fight. Yeah. You know, like there's like, no, listen, bro. No, like, there's people like you out there. Yeah, that also really know how to fight. Yeah, you know, like, there's like people that have that. That's a problem with like really tough guys. They think they're the only one like that. Like, yeah. It's like, you don't want to discourage that in a fighter. Yeah, because that's the thing that gets them to a championship level in the first

place is belief that they're just different Yeah, then everybody they're the chosen one that they're destined for this But the wake-up call that those guys get when they get knocked unconscious is the craziest thing It's like the reality like oh my god. I'm the victim now. Yeah I'm what I've been doing to other people someone just did to me and now it's over that has to rock you on Such a deep level the deepest well because it's also It fucks with your identity exactly like who you are. Oh, yeah, you're worth whole Yeah, your whole self worth girlfriends are attracted to you anymore. Yeah, just got laid out

Yeah, like everybody thinks of you as a loser now. Yeah. Hey had a rough one Saturday, huh? What happened? What happened? Hey, what happened and all your that fat stupid fucking neighbor that's happy that you're a loser now. Yeah Wasn't your night up pal? Yeah And you're like hey man, fuck you. Yeah, like you listen, you know Maybe fucking take a job where you're not getting punched in the head stupid. Don't get mad at me Yeah, exactly people love it when the dominator fails. Yeah, we like to, you know, it's funny because we like to, like society, I think,

I feel, I don't know if it's just all over the world or it feels like it's kind of American, we love to discover someone, ride with them, want everyone to know this is who, I've been with this person from the beginning. See them reach a certain height, then go, oh, fuck him. Fuck that guy, and then bring him down. You see it all the time.

Well, because our society's infested with bitches. Like an apartment filled with roaches, our society's infested with bitches. And there's always gonna be people that don't do their best, that don't go for things things that don't try real hard That never put themselves out there and so someone someone does and fails they're like ha ha ha And they want to troll them on social media You're not better than me

I tell so many fighters you got to stay offline because I've talked to fighters like when they're arguing with people online Yeah, and I'll meet him. I'll see him. I'm a hey man. Listen to me I know you think you're doing, like you're shutting these people up, if you ever see you, I'll fucking smack you. Dude, I'm telling you, right now, you gotta stop doing this. You gotta stop engaging and stop reading these things.

This thing is, it's poison. You're reading poison. And it gets into your head. It gets into your head, like, while you're training. I'm sure. You think about it while you're training. I know it does. It's like, a lot of these guys are very fragile because a lot of these guys got like bullied and picked on Which is why they got into fighting in the first place. Yeah

They defend themselves and then you're getting bullied by a hundred thousand unknown anonymous 15 year olds And your neighbor, yeah Your neighbors hoping for your downfall. Dude, I was reading this story about this lady who, uh, this girl, this young girl was getting like mercilessly trolled online and she found out it was her mom. Yes, I saw this story. Bro. It's like incomprehensible.

Incomprehensible. There's monsters out there. That's a monster. To do that to your daughter? She's just jealous of her daughter's looks and popularity? Fucking crazy. That's a monster. Monsters are real. Yeah. You can't fucking Gandhi everything. You can't Sat Naam the whole world.

Ah, yama stay, namaste. No, that's not real. There's people out there you gotta kill. Yeah, this happened to like some soccer player too. I remember I watched like a doc on him. It's like kind of vague to me, but he was getting totally like mercilessly trolled and attacked by someone, and it turned out to be one of his friends.

Marvin Gaye got killed by his friends. Oh! Yeah. Marvin Gaye got killed by his dad. Yeah, that's... You want to hear something crazy? I was dating this girl and I was a giant Marvin Gaye fan and I think she didn't like it that I was a giant. She was like kind of a cunt. What?

She was kind of a cunt. And one of the things that she said was like, imagine how bad of a person he was that his own father killed him. And I was like, that's what you got out of this? That's your perspective? That's what you got out of this? He was such a bad person. Like what could he have done

that would have justified his father shooting him and killing him? I'll tell you what he did. He fucking outshone his father. That's what he did. He reached levels of love that his father couldn't possibly have achieved in his father. That's what he did. He reached levels of love that his father couldn't possibly have achieved in his life, and his father realized,

I'll never be as good as my son, fuck my son, and he hated him because of that. I mean, I'm sure there's probably a bunch of other stuff involved too, but. But that's dark, man. Dark, you shot your son. You shot your son. And it's not like your son was trying to kill you,

and you had to defend yourself and shoot him. No, he's a he's just an amazing singer that the whole world loved Yeah, and he probably has a bitch ass friend. Yeah, look at you, man. Yeah, your son Marvin's killing it. You're just a fucking loser What was the Because I always knew that the father did was it like a clear-cut What was the, because I always knew that the father, was it like a clear cut, like homicide one? Oh yeah, the father just shot him. There was a, it was an interesting thing, because I think what had happened with Marvin Gaye

was Marvin had achieved like incredible fame, but he got fucked over in some record deal, where he had like no money. Yeah, I think everybody in that era. Bro. So fucking predatory. Bro. You wanna talk about predatory.

The worst. Corporations. The music business is like the most disgusting. You ever read the thing that Courtney Lover wrote about it, about the music business? A lot of people don't even think she wrote it because it's too good. But it was essentially a breakdown

of how bad the music business fucks you. Yeah. And this is at a time where you actually sold records tons of them sometimes Yeah, because now that's now the music business like it's like the mask is off Like it doesn't provide any value and they still take 50% of your touring which is Your touring easy. Yeah, 50 50. They do 50 50 deals merch touring. Yeah, and then what are they gonna do? What do they provide? They can't even get you on the radio because the radio doesn't exist. Yeah. Like, you know, that's why people that break through

from that model, like Oliver Anthony, or you know, Tyler the Creator is a great example, like just makes his own stuff, puts it all in, and it doesn't have to be. People don't even realize that in that era too, you would, after your tour, after your tour, and your hit album that you'd be in debt to the record company.

So they're like, you gotta do another album. Oh yeah, and the record companies all rich. Everyone's profiting. And then also they want you to subsidize the failures. All these boy bands that they pushed that never made it, all the money that they put into that, that's a part of the accounting. So insane.

And then Hollywood does the same thing. They would do the same thing with like how much money a movie made. There's been tons of lawsuits that involve that kind of stuff. Wait, but where were you with Marvin? You're like, he's broke? Yeah, so he, if I remember this story correctly,

it was so depressing, I didn't even wanna like really get into it, because I think he had become huge superstar and then Didn't have any money which is That's happened more than once. Yeah, like and I think he might have had to move back in with his parents No, yeah, I think that's really yeah. Yeah, I think that's the story see if you can find that Yeah, I think that's the story. See if you can find that. I'm looking, I don't know.

It says he bought his dad a Cadillac, but this is years later though. Right, but the thing is, he might have bought him money when the money was flowing in, and then after a while, that's the other thing that happens with artists. Artists are impulsive, so they spend all their money, and then they don't really, how many artists get given a Mercedes Benz

by the head of a label and they think, oh shit, I'm killing it, meanwhile it's a leased car, and they're just siphoning money out of you. Someone's writing that loss. It's just getting fucked, you're getting fucked left and right and right and left, and all they do is sell art. All they do is sell art, know they're all they do is

sell art they don't make any of it and they make more money than anybody that's really it's so quick people didn't know because now if you are into music whatever you don't realize how much it was a thing to have music videos right like that used to be such the biggest thing and a lot of artists especially like the young artists didn't even know that they were paying for the music video. So the label would be like, go shoot your video. And they'd be like, cool. It's a million dollars.

And they'd be like, great. And then they're like, oh no, you're going to pay for that. But they tell them later, we've got to deduct that million. And they're like, wait, what? They're not sophisticated. They're not finance majors. Which is what we were talking about earlier. You should learn that in school.

You have no idea that you're like, wait, I thought you guys are paying for this. No. No. It's kind of funny that the video, like everything is visual. You know, like everything's visual now. There's so much video that people watch, but yet music videos kind of went away. I know. Except Kanye's.

Except for Kanye's. That one we definitely all saw. And the new one looks like you made it for $40. Yeah. It doesn't pretty. I mean, it's like you got a drone and a bunch of people on Hyland Hitler. And he had the black light kind of effect.

Yeah. Doesn't seem like that cost a lot of money. No, I don't think that probably cost a lot. You can make things now, too, for so much less. Oh, with AI. It's so accessible. Yeah. With AI, you don't even have to have

the actual people doing it. Yeah, that's true. Which is really crazy. What you can do now is nuts. My daughter was showing me some stuff that you could do with just photographs, where she could take photographs and then she throws them through this filter and then they're dancing around and moving. This is nuts.

Yeah. So all you need is a photograph, and especially if you chose to have like effects in it like some sort of psychedelic fucking Weird you things where things morph and change it could all could be done with AI now. That's incredible easily Well, there's there's articles out about some studio, maybe it's here in in Texas I got the Somebody sent me the link to this, that this company wants to, yeah,

they wanna start making studio quality movies for 500K AI movies. I bet they can make it for cheaper than that. But that's, yeah. These are, I mean, that's. They probably have AI write the script, man. I mean, if you're thinking about some dumb ass fucking cop movie, They probably have AI write the script man. I mean if you're thinking about something like

Dumbass fucking cop movie, you know some silly Bank heist movie. Yeah, you got a hero who's gonna go in and fucking kill the bad guys Another cost you could write that easy with just take all AI has to do is like fuck It's a large language model right it almost is searched through Steve McQueen movies yeah, Tom Hardy movies right me a movie Guy Ritchie movies Make me a movie now. It bums me out though like I don't want to watch that it should yeah What is this the company is the first piece they made and shows a little bit like how they made it the woman with red hair Yeah, they still are doing at. Oh, so they have actors. They have real actors.

But then they're replaced. God damn. Like, look, it looks so good. It looks so good. Like, that's not a real person. Isn't that crazy? Well, she does. It's the uncanny valley.

It looks a little weird. Yeah. But getting better all the time, and the only reason why it looks weird is because it's so well lit. Like, if you wanted to do it like sin city style There's no like sin city if Robert Rodriguez wanted to do some sin city today the whole thing could be a yeah Yeah, no one would know no that's crazy. Yeah, these are all fake people

And dude just a few years ago. You couldn't do hair hair was weird right you Right. And so were like extremities, right? Fingers, yeah. Yeah. Now, I mean, just in a short amount of time, it's incredible. Why is that? That's so interesting. Why are fingers?

Like, you know? It's a good question. And hair seems like it would take a lot of computing power, right? Because you have your- Strands, single strands moving. Even like her hair is not moving. It's pretty static. Yeah, but it's no. It isn't. no it isn't go back no no i'm saying but it is all moving not the way it would it would if yeah you're right here you're right yeah yeah yeah you're

right yeah it's moving like almost like a little bit of a helmet like that would be a tell like it's a little bit of movement but not enough right a little bit of bounce but not like it's all spray painted like as if if their hair was like sprayed with a shit ton of hairspray Yeah, couldn't move at all right that would kind of make sense But it's not moving so they all need that scene at the beginning of every of their movies What is Can't read anything in a movie you probably wouldn't need it, but when you're looking for AI stuff,

you can sort of look at fonts. Interesting, yeah, look at that. Like, look at that font. It looks like ancient, like Sumerian text or something. Like some lost language, yeah. Like that one, and the fingers and toes thing is like, I just wonder what the explanation is for that. Because that's a tell in photographs too, right? When you see a photo, you thing is like, I just wonder what the explanation is for that. Cause that's a tell in photographs too, right?

You see a photo, you could be like, oh, look, that's got like six fingers. Well, I remember that lady, the English lady that was missing, was it Kate? She was missing forever. She's like supposedly was sick. Kate Middleton.

She was sick. And then there was a photo that was released of her. Look, she's fine. Everybody's like, no, this is fucking AI. Like in the photo, like people had six fingers and shit, like weird stuff. That's weird shit. In the photo, there was like weird, clearly edited, yeah.

It's gonna get way spookier. Way, way. Way spookier. We're just touching it right now. It's just started. This is the infancy. Scratching the surface, yeah. It's gonna be real weird. Actors should really save their money.

You're gonna be useless in a short amount of time. I agree. And also if you have any type of recognition to you now, you gotta get your image, you know what I mean? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also how are you gonna stop China from just making Mel Gibson movies

No, you're definitely not you know they're just gonna be like I don't care. Yeah, fuck you I'm gonna make a Mel Gibson when he's 35 movie fuck off. Yeah, he's gonna play here. We don't care Let's fuck off. We're gonna put it online. What are you gonna do? Run through 30 different shell companies you're gonna find who made it yeah Yeah, totally and it's gonna get to a point where it's gonna be virtual, so it's like, it's gonna be inside people's heads. You're gonna be able to exist inside the movie.

Things are gonna get so strange and they're gonna be so immersive so quickly. The Matrix is a decade away, the real Matrix, where you're in the Amazon, and you are barefoot, and you feel the ground under your feet, and you hear the monkeys and the birds and the bugs in the trees, and you hear the sound of a panther nearby. Like, that's gonna be real.

It's gonna be real, and you're gonna be like, why do I even want to... Go back to real life. Partake in the real world. Like, what's that guy's name? Joey Pants from Fuck in the Matrix when he's eating the steak is like, I wanna be important, I wanna be an important person.

Like yeah, that's what people wanna do. They'd rather be an important person in the matrix. That's so true, man. And we might be in that right now. That's the real mind fuck. The real mind fuck is if they can Eventually create a artificial reality that's indiscernible How do you know whether or not you're already in it and you don't well you wouldn't yeah If it's there's a lot of evidence that we are

That we're in it now. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of evidence that Reality as we know it is not real That it's too weird. Quantum entanglement, quantum particles being in superposition, the fact that at a subatomic level everything is kind of magic, like nothing makes any sense. Also that when you observe things it changes the behavior of subatomic particles like what what's that all about? What does that mean? Like no one really knows I'm experiencing this in a In an altered reality, I think consciousness might be

Responsible for you for reality instead of consciousness is experiencing reality. I think it might be both things I might be I think it might be consciousness is experiencing reality as well as consciousness is Responsible for reality much of a mind fuck would it be if somebody unplugged you right now? You're like this whole thing you've been doing pretty mind fucky. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I mean if anybody should believe in it, it's me. Yeah, I know How is it possible that my life was like this? Yeah, right doesn't make any sense I'm just like killing it in a video game. Yeah, doesn't make any sense doesn't make sense No, but but doesn't make sense. This is why like for a fighter like the loss must be so fucking unbelievably devastating Yeah, it's like the equivalent

It's over Can you see champions that keep coming back and keep getting knocked out. You're like, No, don't do it again. Fuck. You know, yeah, just like they can't believe you don't see it again. I can't believe it's over. But I was I was in the I was the winner of the game. Yeah, I won the game. I was winning the game. Nope. No, not anymore. No, now reality is shifted and now on top of it you've got brain damage oh fuck boy that's worse than the version we get oh it's the worst yeah that's the worst for brain damage is the

worst because now you the way you interface with reality might be damaged sort of like a car with a bad suspension on the highway with the the wheels shaking now like the way you highway with the the wheels shaking now Like the way you interface with the universe itself changes completely Yeah, so you're you're taking a gamble the highest amount of glory possible is like winning fights in front of the whole world I mean I would only imagine that like becoming a UFC champion and they you know put that belt on your waist and the whole crowds like Yeah, and people at home like fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. He did it. Holy shit becoming a UFC champion and they put that belt on your waist and the whole crowd's like, yeah,

and people at home are like, fuck yeah, fucking he did it, holy shit. Holy, you text your friends, what a fight, holy shit. The love that person gets, the accomplishment that person gets. But the price is you're risking the way you interface with reality itself, the brain. You're risking the way you interface with reality itself the brain You're you're risking the brain and you might get out of it like George St. Pierre, you know, you're St. Pierre fine

handsome wealthy Yeah, perfect like intellectually like you're the man still bro still the man Yeah, like, you know whenever I talked to him is like Joe Rogan house things. Everything is great buddies I happy you're like boy you fucking really pulled it off pulled it off really pulled it off He became a two-division world champion one of the greatest fighters of all time and you're fine The but for most it's gonna end badly Yeah, and the crazier part to me is how many of those guys you go, hey, if you could go back, you know,

we just changed things, and they're like, no. Some of them go, I love the glory so much. You see it in fighting, you see it in the NFL, and some of them are like, no, I'll accept. The identity. The identity is so huge. The identity, to be a special person. so huge the identity to be a special person There's nothing you don't get to be a special person

most people don't get to be a special person and a special fighter Is a different kind of special person Yeah, it's like that's a guy who took the craziest of risks like we all know and you know better than anybody how vulnerable the human Body is because again surgery and your injuries and you know better than anybody how vulnerable the human body is. Because of your surgery and your injury. Fucking horrible.

So like imagine if you had a fight and now like you were a big time fighter and you hurt yourself playing basketball with Burt Kreischer. And then you gotta build yourself back up to fight again but you kinda know that your left arm is kinda still fucked a little bit. Yeah, no you never like, no matter how far you get from it, you still have the voice in there. Oh yeah. More so now right? Oh yeah. Because you're like, I never like no matter how far you get from it. You still have the voice in there

Oh, yeah, more so now right? Oh, yeah, like I never had that voice before. Oh, yeah Watch out. Yeah, be careful Yeah, like that and I you know I've had three knee surgeries and not like I'm having a problem with this left knee that I really hurt the last time I heard it pretty bad with skiing and The last time I ski because I crack the bone. That's at the top of the tibia But and then I probably messed up the cartilage and shit in there, too

But it's still better than most people's knees like it's better than a regular knee like yeah like people like how bad is your knee? Like it's not fucked up like a pair to your knees like a regular person's knees Yeah, cuz you but I need my knee to be able to kick 60 miles an hour and do a bag of sand Yeah, like I'm requiring different things from my knees sure those people but I Know it's not the same Yeah, like and if you're a fighter and you know, you got a bum knee like even though nobody can tell while you're moving around You know and you know your hand breaks easier now

Yeah, and you know your neck hurts and you know You got a pinched nerve and you know your lower back gives out sometimes and you know You know your kidneys kind of hurt because you cut weight for too many years You know like you know, you shouldn't be fighting and you know And you know your memory's not so good anymore And also, you know, you can't be fighting. And you know your memory's not so good anymore. And also you know you can't take a punch anymore. Like a lot of guys know that they used to be able to take a great punch, but now you can't get hit.

So now you're gun shy. Yeah. Did you see Devin Haney's fight last weekend? No. He fought like, Ryan Garcia fucked him up in the last fight. Dropped him a bunch of times. Yeah.

And this fight, it looks like he's done. Like he's moving around, it was just constantly moving. Who did he fight? I forget the gentleman's name, but there were rounds where neither one of them landed a punch. The whole round? The whole round.

Garcia, that's the one where he won the fight, but then there was all this bullshit. He tested positive for some sort of performance enhancing metabolite at a very low level, by the way. Like not a level where it would be performance enhancing. Yeah. So I don't know what happened. He says he didn't take anything.

What ended up happening with the decision or the purse or whatever? It became a no contest. Oh, it became a no contest. Yeah, and I think he's also getting sued because you know, Devin Haney claimed that he won because he was on steroids and that's a no contest. Oh, it became a no contest. And I think he's also getting sued because Devin Haney claimed that he won because he was on steroids, and that's a bad look.

But you could tell that like mind fucked Devin Haney. And a lot of people like totally are writing off Devin Haney now, which is crazy. Because I remember when he beat Kim Bosa, so I was like, damn, Devin Haney's slick. He's so good. And now that guy is just he was just moving constantly. And still very skilled boxer, but it just shows you

one devastating loss for an undefeated fighter can fuck you up. And some guys, they come back and they're fine. Garcia, for instance, like, Gervonta Davis fucked him up. He came back and he was fine Yeah, but then this weekend that weekend rather he fought Rolly Romero and Romero dropped him and he lost the decision So they were gonna like set up a big rematch now Nobody wants to see the rematch because they both lost it both lost. Well, actually Devin didn't lose

He won a decision but he lost public credibility because it was a very boring fight still incredibly skillful boxer, world champion boxer, like very good boxer, but even the commentary like Antonio Tarver was like, I don't like the way he's moving, his footwork seems erratic, like everything is like, he needs to settle down. They, Jose Ramirez.

Yeah. But- So Haney won this fight. Yeah, he won a decision. But it was the fans lost. And this was this big event in Times Square. This is also a big event because Turkey Al-Ashik, the guy from Saudi Arabia, his excellency,

is the guy who's dumping incredible amounts of money into boxing so that he can get these guys to fight each other. So he's putting, he's like, what do you need for the fight? How much to make this fight happen? Like I need $10 million, like done. And like, what? Like, fuck, I should ask for 20. It's that kind of a situation because the Saudis have so much money. So Oscar De La Hoya was talking about this and he was saying, these guys are spoiled and they're afraid to risk anything.

Right. Because the money's so much, which is so interesting. Like you need a guy who's willing to risk it all to really fucking go for it, and these guys aren't willing to do that. And I think the Devin Haney thing, it's one of those things where you see a guy who is an unbelievably skilled fighter

but loses one fight, and they're just not the same again not the same and gervonta is still Gervonta still killing it killing it, but he had that fight with Lamont roach where it was a draw And there was a legit draw and you know you could even make the argument that roach won that fight and they're gonna fight again That should be very interesting, but I think it's also For boxers, there's a situation where you can only keep up the RPMs for so long. All the greats, they just, there's a certain amount of times

that you can keep training, a certain amount of times you can keep competing, and like we were talking about, like your arm, you know it's kind of fucked up. That happens with them too. Like, the ankles are bad, something's bad. Like, I can't do the same level of output. Yeah, it's not the same. They're not who they used to be. They might look the's bad. I can't do the same level of output. Yeah, it's not the same.

They're not who they used to be. They might look the same, but they can't do what they could do five years ago, six years ago. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It's a hard sport, man. But it's also because the glory is so high

if you're successful. So great. People are willing to do it. Yeah. Very crazy, though. Yeah. Thank God that's not how we make a living. Thank God.

Dude if the UFC was around when I was competing, I 100% would have done it. And then imagine how dumb I would be now at 57 years old. Oh, I'd be a mess. Lot of staring. Oh, I'd be a lot of drooling and so, hey, you look good. You losing weight?

You losing weight? You guys are, what are you doing? You guys dieting? You know, my You losing weight, what are you doing? You dieting? You know, my brain would be like a four cylinder engine, like, eh, eh, eh, all fucked up, misfiring. It's good you didn't get into that, dude. It is, but I think I got the right amount of brain damage. Yeah, you've said that to me before.

I think so. I think there's just a certain amount that you get that makes you just a little reckless, just a little crazy. Just a touch. Yeah, just a touch. I just got a, just a certain amount that you get that makes you just a little reckless, just a little crazy. Just a touch. Yeah, just a touch. I just got a, just a touch of brain damage that allows me to be, I like taking, I enjoy risks. Like I like them, they're fun.

Me too. Did you just fall on your head? Yeah, I had a couple devastating, yeah. I bet it helped. Couple bad ones. I bet it helped. Like I think I have some frontal lobe damage. I think it has something to do with it.

I like calculated risks. Yes. I think if you take this career path, you enjoy risk. Clearly. Yeah. Also, you don't have any choices. Yeah. My thought was when I was first starting, I was like, I can't work, I can't do it, but

I know I can do things. But I can't show up and do a job all day for the rest of my life. I don't have that in me. I'm allergic to it. I didn't like, I was a latchkey kid. So I didn't get a lot of, you got to do this, you got to do that.

So the problem is I developed not having people tell me what to do. I can't listen. I think every comic has that thing too. You're like, I can't have a boss. Also, I was around enough bosses that were just total cunts and douchebags that I just like, in my mind, the boss is an asshole.

Always, every time. He's unappreciative, fucking idiot, who you've got to listen to him because he's responsible for your paycheck and he knows it so he gets to Act like a douchebag and you can't go hey man. Fuck you. Who are you talking to? Why do you talk to people like that? You fucking idiot. Yeah, you can't cuz he's the boss. He's the boss. Yeah. No, it sets you up for like I'll figure out a way I think if I hadn't done this I would have I definitely think I would I would have started my own business of some kind Yeah, I mean they've been an entrepreneur of some kind.

Yeah, you would have had to. But that's, you know, how many people don't, or they get roped in and then they have a bunch of responsibilities like family. No, it's a fucking, yeah. I mean, now we're at the age too where you can look back on 25 years of people you know. Oh my God. Who are you know. Oh my God. Who are like miserable. Oh my God. People that are in hell.

Yeah, in hell. In hell, yeah. Meanwhile we're fuckin'. Killing it. Yeah, but yeah. You know what's really crazy? You know what's really crazy? Is when people get out of stand up

and then they see everybody doing real well and they wanna jump back in and it's been like, I've gotten some messages from some friends that I know they haven't been able to stand up in a decade, and I'm like, you can't just get. You can't just jump back in, no. Well, if you do, you gotta start from the beginning. Yeah.

Like start doing open mic nights again. You've been in the writers' room just doing writing for a sitcom for fucking eight years. You lose your footing so much in that time. It's a different, like, sometimes I've had a week off, two weeks off, even a month or something off where you're like, oh, you have sea lakes. Like you're just like, whoa, I can't imagine 10 years.

Dude, it happened to a lot of writers when they got in the strike. You know, when the strike was going on, like how long did that strike go on for? God, it was months. Long ass ass time and these guys have mortgages and kids are in private school and their wife likes to spend money Yeah, fuck yeah, and they're used to making you know half a million a year. Yeah, I'm doing real good Yeah, and then all sudden it all dries up and like oh fuck and then their savings account and the wife's like What are you gonna do like fuck? I think I'm gonna start doing stand-up again

Okay, and they start trying to put together an act and they want to show up and then the club doesn't know who they are Anymore. Oh god Scary it's a scary feeling. It's the worst but it's like this decisions that you make in life Like what are you going to do? Like what are you going to do with your life? Those are personal decisions. Which is why they're like this whole free will versus determinism thing drives me crazy. Because these people that want to believe there is no such thing as free will, like yeah you can do that cute little thing, but you know that free will is real because you

know that you decide to get up in the morning. Like you telling me Jelly Roll didn't have free will to lose that 200 pounds. No shit Yeah, perfect example. Yeah, like that's hard to do. Yeah, you're 400 plus pounds You're fat as fuck you're drinking and partying every night and then one day you put your foot down and you know, that's it Yeah, that's enough. I enough. I'm gonna get healthy. That's free will. Like, you're telling me determinism, like forced him into a position at 39 years old

where he's all of a sudden gonna decide to lose all this weight and has nothing to do with his free will. That's silly. Will's a real thing. Course, and we all have it, and you can just deny it, but it's why, I don't know, anything that you get, you accomplish that's work is through free will.

It's through making choices, man. But then there is also a certain amount of determinism. If you grow up in a terribly abusive household, and you're around drug addicts and violence, and then you go and commit that, it's almost like you. Yeah, no other Examples your your true. Yeah, I get that but you still make a choice you do But you don't even know what a good choice is that's never even seen a good choice. That's that's a that's a valuable

Analysis that like you had a horrible modeling So you just you're just following a path you think is the only path and some of those guys get involved in athletics right some of those guys get lucky and they become a fighter or maybe they they get lucky and they become musician or maybe they get lucky and they become something else or a comic yeah yeah but it's just the choices that you make in this life are that you don't know if it's the right choice while you're doing why you're making that choice. I'm about to find out whether making this TV show Find out you have to piss seems like you're wiggling. I got a piss. I knew it

I knew it should we wrap it up sure listen that what you showed me is amazing I'm sure it's gonna be fucking bad thoughts. When is it out? It's Tuesday, so tomorrow. Tomorrow, fuck yeah. It's, the stuff that I saw is amazing. It's fucking hilarious. Thanks a lot, bro. I'm glad you're doing stuff, man. I'm just glad you're out there.

It's fucking beautiful to see. I'm very excited for it, I'll tell you. I know it's an overused term, but it really was a dream come true to do it. Well, you can tell. You can tell by how well it came out. It's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. It's so you.

It's such a signature Tom Segura type of humor. Thanks, man. It's awesome. I'm excited for it. Thanks for having me on, man. My pleasure, my brother. Anytime. Always good to see you.

Love you to death. Love you, too. Bye, everybody. Peace. Thanks for watching!