The Joe Rogan Experience - #2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Ehsan Ahmad is a comedian and co-host of "The Solid Show" with Deric Poston. https://linktr.ee/ehsanjahmad www.youtube.com/@TheSolidShow2024 Get 10% off perfect boots at Tecovas.com/Rogan   Le...arn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Oh hey fella. What's up? What's going on man? Good, good. It's good to see you. Good to be back.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Yeah brother. I've had a few interesting days just chilling and relaxing and trying to stay off the news man And then this morning someone sent me a video of Bridget McCrone, McCrone's wife I saw that. Fucking face slapping him. Yeah, that's wild dude. My favorite is the look into the camera once he realizes I got caught. Yeah, he's like oh and he just it's like It's very you could put like the curb your enthusiasm Something song right after that imagine what goes on behind closed doors if someone's bitch slapping you on a private jet
Starting point is 00:00:54 Like what is that? Yeah, that's a weird relationship. Well, she was his teacher if it was a she Yeah, oh, yeah, there's a whole like there's a whole like yeah there's a whole like thing bro Candace Owens did like five hours a little bit crazy she's the wrong dog to go after you right if you're trying to break into a how that's a wrong guard dog right she gets on something she's like a pitbull no she really breaks down I had a friend once show me her breakdown of like a Taylor Swift situation because I didn't know Candice talks about like That sort of stuff as well, and I was like oh, this is like a really in-depth breakdown of what's going on with Taylor Swift
Starting point is 00:01:35 That's crazy. Oh, she did the whole Justin Baldoni Blake Lively thing, and I'm eating popcorn But the fucking Brigitterone one is the craziest because I think she's right I don't obviously I don't know but at the end of the day the first thing you have to say is what kind of a 40 year old dates a 14 year old right that's Crazy listen even if it's a woman and a man first of all Kurt massacre says it's 14. I think the internet says it's 50 You see me get cornered by him lot yesterday He just hit me with like seven different conspiracies in a row. I'm like guys guys. I'm getting cornered. It's so hard to follow him Okay, I felt like a woman trapped at like an office party and the guy who's hitting on them
Starting point is 00:02:32 Like won't leave him alone. They can't escape yeah I've ever seen that meme of that like girl at the party and the guys just talking at him It's always like you know something about Flat Earth or something But yet no, I saw that and I was like that's crazy that this happened this morning crazy but but the facts of the situation 40 and let's say 15 let's give them the benefit of the doubt 15 is I have a 15 year old they're little kids essentially you know they're like three years away from being an adult right whole years years! Well you know what's interesting? Is that like, I listen to a lot of true crime and they'll say that like, pedophiles and
Starting point is 00:03:10 stuff will put themselves in situations where they can abuse and that's why I think there's a lot of- Nickelodeon! Yeah, Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon thing. It's like the Jimmy Savile thing in England. That's crazy. So crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So crazy. I was trying to explain that someone this week I was like imagine if mr. Rogers was the biggest pedophile that ever existed but also looked like one yeah that's what's great like mr. Rogers looks like a sweet guy mm-hmm you know I mean like back in the day like if a guy like mr. Rogers was teaching kids you wouldn't even get creeped out it's like oh he's just a sweet guy there's sweet people out there but Jimmy Savile looks like a monster he look like a monster he didn't look like a real person he looked like what was that fucking movie there was
Starting point is 00:03:53 that movie that was based on a book oh my god Johnny Depp was in it the guy from how I met your mother was in it I'm this is not ringing any bells for it's a really weird book That's like half Fantastic half realistic sort of almost Harry Potter ish the secret window. That's it okay Let me see what it looks like based on a Stephen King. No, that's not it. Okay. No no no no no no It was like a recent is it like almost Harry Potter. She's a magical beast Yeah, yeah, that movie. That's it. Oh, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah He looks like an evil person in magical beasts right right like a bad wizard like yeah
Starting point is 00:04:35 I got bad wizard doesn't look like a real human, but I wonder too if I have a picture of Jimmy Savile I look at that guy. I think it's my it might be so hard to look past like everything that he's done Yeah for us to not see the monster like them, but it must have been like oh cuz no no no That's a monster. That's a monster. That's a monster. No matter what that's a monster That's a monster with the glasses. There's something about his eyes Obviously we know too much right right? But look at this. Shirt open, no t-shirt underneath it, chest hair, fucking something around his neck, a tie just around his neck. He's a creeper.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah, but at the time they were like, oh he's just a British eccentric guy. That's the British are known for our weird people 50 years just and died and no one ever caught no one ever caught him BBC covered it up Crazy just did let him get away used to hang out at the hospitals that he would Mm-hmm Sandusky think. Like, everybody knew about it. Oh, dude, everyone knew about it, but they were winning. So we were like, dude, we win championships. I didn't think... That's the devil.
Starting point is 00:05:53 If the devil's a real thing, that's where the devil lives. It's very funny to me, at least, well, you know, that they exposed Sandusky after they went seven and six. They were like, they were winning for so long, and then they were like, seven and six, uh-uh. Is that really what happened? It was the same, they had a horrible year, and then the next year Sandusky,
Starting point is 00:06:11 the Sandusky thing came out. They needed to make changes. He wasn't doing his job. I think he had already retired at that point too. It was just crazy. Oh, well, that's even, yeah, that's when it's over, because you're not valuable anymore. Right, and so eventually.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You gotta Biden that motherfucker. You gotta Pelosi that motherfucker right into the rocks right? You know like Dianne Feinstein in a wheelchair being told by her operatives who to vote for right? That's what you got to do if you're saying that's why that bitch You know the rocks because if you get out then they start investigating you like whoa Mm-hmm stay active. Mm-hmm Yeah, you got to keep you got to keep achieving con alive keep these people fed because they will feed you to
Starting point is 00:06:50 the wolves mm-hmm right if you're a corrupt politician you gotta stay in all this you can't retire if you retire your open game because now you're are you on a podcast retired talking shit Let's get them! Yeah, that's true. They start auditing you and everyone's got some fucking shady shit. They're all, they made way too much money! Dude, there's no way! There's no way it's not shady when you're worth 200 million and you make 170 grand a year. That's crazy! Right, and then you have to stay. You have to. You gotta ride it into the rocks. Also, there's something about that power that you don't want to give up on.
Starting point is 00:07:28 100%. 100%. Some weird Darth, like the Emperor Palpatine. They all look like Emperor Palpatine. Every politician looks like Emperor Palpatine when they're old. It's crazy. It's the weight of it all weighing on you. You know what I'm'm saying like you have to know that you're like man I'm like at a certain point. I'm fucking over so many people right. It's got a way on your soul. Hopefully, are you? I think the best people age the hardest You know I think Obama like was probably like a very idealistic young man who really wanted to change the world Yeah, that dude aged more than anybody well into that in man. Yeah, oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:08:11 Oh, he's least Trump Trump Trump just fucking this is something that I Shit off his shoulders like it was nothing this is a Derek said to me in like 2018 ones We're talking about he's like I don't know cuz he's not a big politics guy But it's like I I don't if I trust Trump his hair is not getting gray. What kind of politician doesn't get gray hairs? The hair itself he makes one of his own hair he was on stage talking about his comb over. Yeah, he's funny He does stand up. He's doing stand-up regardless of what you think about him foreign policy economics Regardless the guy is doing stand- up. He can work a room. Well, that's why none of them can fuck with him because he can go on a podcast easy because
Starting point is 00:08:50 he does these stadiums where he just goes on and starts talking shit. He does Biden impressions. He does Biden water around the room. He doesn't know where he is. He's funny man. Okay. And the problem is he does it all the time. So he's got an act.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He's basically like a comic, like in a lot of ways. That's the problem. It's like these other people, they have canned speeches that are written by a bunch of people that have this like really well-worded, you know, explanation of what's wrong with the world, what's wrong with the country, and what they're gonna do. But it's not them
Starting point is 00:09:25 It's not them. That's why they all fall apart when they're talking and you know They just don't have any idea what the question is gonna be That's why they had to be protected all of them have to be protected from themselves Right because when confronted by like some basic facts about the fucking corruption of the world They don't know what to say and they they crumble and Trump just starts talking shit He just starts talking to brother all corrupt He just starts going into it and talking about crooked Hillary and this and that and they said this and they said that Yeah, it's just the him saying what's on his mind regardless of whether or not you know people like fact-checking or whatever
Starting point is 00:10:04 I think people are just used to that now. That's how they consume media now is like, I need the real person to talk to me. Yes, it's also like, they're like, oh, he's a crazy person. Well, yeah, that's the only kind of person that would survive what you try to do to him. Right. That's the only kind of guy that gets through.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You want a perfect person? A perfect person morally falls apart. By the time they've been indicted and they have 34 counts, felony counts, like your whole body is just destroyed by the stress of you possibly going to jail for the rest of your life. You have to be a fucking insane person to ride that out and not look like anything even happened, then you get shot. You get up after you got shot, you're fucking bleeding from your ear and you go fight, fight, fight. You gotta be a crazy person to get through this. He's a nightmare for anybody that's trying to rig a system. Like that guy's the nightmare. He's the final boss of fuck you. You know? Yeah. And also to want like a good guy to be your president is kind of like a good guy is your neighbor Like this would be nice if we could get a good guy. I don't think I don't think they would want that job Oh, no, they wouldn't want that. No, they wouldn't want that job. So no way that's an awful job
Starting point is 00:11:18 I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's just I think he's like a lot of people that just want success They they want a certain kind of success and also they want a certain kind of success publicly They want everybody to know that they're successful. Mm-hmm. Like that's a like hyper Competitive person that's locked into a very specific kind of game is the game of look at all the shit I got right all the power game of look at all the shit I got right all the power I have look at all the shit I got and they're all playing that game they're just playing that game sneaky they're playing that game talking about the importance of addressing climate change and you know
Starting point is 00:11:56 all such a weird shit they're talking about but they're all playing the same goddamn game they're in a legacy game They want to see how long can my name last? Post me dying like that's a type of person. It's what happens with cults. It's what happens with everything There's always one maniacal person that just wants to control everything Mmm, everything that's why CEOs backstab each other and tried to get each other removed And you hear about that like internal coups at companies. Yeah, everybody's always like fuck you. I'm the man How could he be the man? I'm the man and they just wanted to fucking ruin each other man Yeah, I feel like that's why dick Cheney was so effective. He's like. I'll just be number two
Starting point is 00:12:41 He was straight Satan. Yeah. He was in the Bible. That guy was in the Bible. He didn't have a pulse. At one point in time, no, legitimately. Oh yeah. An artificial heart, no pulse, and responsible for who knows how many deaths. Oh, countless.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Who knows? A whole 20 year war that we had no business being in. Not only that, you wanna talk about like transparent. This was all transparent before the internet. But imagine, it was kind of the internet was around, right? But not the same. The internet in 2001, there was no social media. It was a different kind of internet.
Starting point is 00:13:14 But this guy, his former company was getting no bid contracts for billions of dollars to fix shit that we blew up in a war that was his idea. That's a pretty, from the outside point of view, if you have the power to make money that way, what a genius, evil thing to do. So profitable. I know, he might, just billions of dollars, enough that he didn't need a heart anymore. What do you, like, how do you combat that with the idea also in place that capitalism is way better than communism? Which I think we all agree. How do you combat that?
Starting point is 00:13:49 I don't, I think I'm maybe a little more cynical than most people because I just the way I look at it now is like I don't think you can because I think whatever system that you end up putting in place regardless there are the haves and the have nots. Right? So it's like maybe we can combat this and we can curb maybe corruption in this manner but corruption will always find the way right but is there a way to minimize it is there a way to make it less available like it seems like I'm not I'm just without without a bit of a congressman and there's a number of congressmen I'm just guessing but my friend Tulsi was a congresswoman for eight years.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And her experiences in there, they're quite disturbing because without speaking at a turn, what essentially the idea that I'm getting, and then not just talking to her, talking to Federman, talking to multiple people, is a lot of these people, they go in with good intentions and then they encounter a system that is just rigged with grifters. Like the whole system, you're in a grifting system. You're like, oh, Jesus Christ. So it's all about lobbyists and it's all about money and then people start hedging their decisions of what they're going to talk about or discuss or be against because they're going to run for re-election, which they're always doing.
Starting point is 00:15:07 They're always in a constant cycle of generating more donor money and running for re-election and making everybody happy. I think you, at least for like, you see that with like AOC, someone who, you know, when she was coming up, it was like a whole anti-system sort of Democrat. And then 2020 endorses Biden. So it's like eventually they get you to play ball. Well it's like who would she endorse if she didn't endorse Biden? This is the argument that Bernie Sanders made on on flagrant. He was essentially saying to Akash and Andrew, he was saying, my choice was either help Donald Trump or support the Democratic Party, even
Starting point is 00:15:50 though they fucked him over. And so his choice, he made the choice to support Hillary. Well, I mean, I get it from Bernie's perspective, but if, like, in my mind, if I'm like, I know, and this is me not knowing anything about how Congress works, but it's like, if I'm supposed to be the next young, like, I'm the change of the Democratic party, I think the power move is to not endorse anybody there. If I'm in like an AOC position of just like- I think the system is a little more locked down than we'd like to think.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Right, right. Well, clearly it is, right? Because here's a good example. They were going to release the Epstein files day one. Right? Right. okay, what happened? What happened if that's what you wanted to do before you got the job and then you got the job and day one you couldn't Do it. Okay. So what are we saying? Are we saying that this is this is more complicated? It's probably a lot more complicated There's probably a web and then there's also people for decades and decades
Starting point is 00:16:43 Developing relationships and working inside these fucking and that's the real government That's our real government. That's our real government. These people Realized that once they get into Congress they realized that when they become a senator they realize that like okay This is not the real government and if you fuck with the real government, they'll take your ass. Yeah, they'll they'll shoot you They'll try they did everything to Trump They did everything they did indictments. They did public shame. They did they took shots at him But also with the Epstein thing It's probably like just way too many people are on that list for a government to be even any sort of functional
Starting point is 00:17:24 He looks so scared to be there right now it's like a hostage video that's cash right now being like don't say the wrong name or I'm dead yeah that's a hostage video son yeah there's no winning in that cause there's no cause it's like that's Epstein is across the aisle that's everybody the thing about them saying that I've seen the file, he definitely killed himself.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Well, what could be in the file? Let's strongman this. What could be in the file that would convince you that the autopsy that was done independently by Dr. Michael Baden, who's that famous HBO autopsy guy? Do you know that guy? No. You ever see that show, HBO's Autopsy? No, I've never seen that. Great show. Autopsy guy do you know that guy now you ever see that show HBO's autopsy not never seen that From a while back, but the show was all about how they caught murderers mmm did a lot of crazy shit and just just
Starting point is 00:18:14 Insane things that some people did one guy his wife died and he kept her body in his house And he kept buying like cases and cases of perfume and he was covering her decaying body with perfume to stop the odor and he inserted some sort of a rubber fake vagina into the corpse. Bro. What a guy. Bro. When they describe it. So this guy anyway he's got a famous show that was on HBO that was on for a long time, like many seasons. All of these insane murder cases, like how they caught these people. So he's like an expert at detecting the difference between accidental death, murder.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And he looked at the autopsy. He looked at what had happened to Epstein's body, said this is indicative of someone being strangled to death. These kind of breaks in the bones on the neck. This is not what happens when you hang yourself. And he was like, the mark is also in the wrong place. It's low on the neck. Whereas if someone strangles themselves, the weight of their body, which is what's killing them, it all goes up to the top of your chin.
Starting point is 00:19:24 He's like, none of these are injuries that are consistent with someone who was strangled. So what could be if they don't have a video? So if they say the cameras were down, okay, so there's no video. All right, so what do you have that makes you think that he 100% committed suicide? And how do you let the guy who is in one of the most high profile cases of sex trafficking in history, how do you let that guy just not be watched? But also, this episode is brought to you by Tacovas. Tacovas know that y'all means all, so they make boots that work for everybody. Handmade with over 200 meticulous steps, these boots are built
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Starting point is 00:20:54 There's no way galane doesn't know them as well. She's she's like there. She's there the whole time I feel like she knows everything that he knows well. She's in jail where they get to do yoga. Yeah, so she got a sweet deal Well, she's she is alive though Which is kind of crazy like you got to wonder like if they killed him because they couldn't trust him Allegedly right let's just say let's just let me let's give cash and Dan The benefit of the doubts and maybe there's something in that file that shows that he what would convince you What could be in the file that would convince you I mean it would have to be Active it have they would have to be active politicians
Starting point is 00:21:33 presidents Billionaires like it's got to be like that level of like I Mean the fucking prince was there. Did you ever see what Epstein cellmate looked like no bro I mean the fucking prince was there. Did you ever see what Epstein's cellmate looked like? No bro Ready for this his cellmate is this Giant Italian guy who was a cop who was a dirty cop and I think was in there for murder Mmm, I think it was like a bad drug deal or some shit Let's find the details in this but when you see what this guy looked like you're like
Starting point is 00:22:05 Are you fucking kidding me? He looks like like the rock right guys giant And this is the Selmae this you put a murderer in with the guy who's the most high-profile witness and defendant in history dealing with a sex slave Operation for elites and you left him in there with a giant murderer right? There should be a guard around him at all times, but they yeah, they knew they were gonna liquidate him We know what almost immediately get an image of him Jamie
Starting point is 00:22:38 I was digging through details of what he did that I didn't remember. I don't remember with the cop did yeah He had four life sentences Wait, let's show the picture of them The picture is insane when you see what he looks like you like this guy looks like a heavyweight MMA fighter, right? They were just waiting for him to die, but he literally looks like a gorilla look at him far right picture that one yeah Imagine oh someone got strangled to death and this guy's the cellmate. Nothing to see here, folks. Look at the size of this fucking guy. Westchester cop gets four life terms in prison for quadruple homicide. So he's already in jail for four life sentences. All you have to do is give him tuna fish. You get tuna from the commissary. Just kill this guy. Yeah. Like what are you gonna get? We're
Starting point is 00:23:22 gonna get you hookers every month. Bring in a hooker. what are you gonna get? We're gonna get you hookers every month bringing a hooker What are you gonna get? I mean, I'm not saying that that's that happen I mean, I'm saying if a guy is in jail for four life sentences like that would be a good guy to hire one of them Is strangling someone to death with a zip tie? Oh, Jesus. Wow. It's good at it. Jesus Christ He strangled someone to death. He's zip-tied. What is his name? Martin our tag Leone Leone it's like Christ he strangled someone to death with a zip tie. Tortured him. What is his name? Martin Luna. Tartaglioni. Tartaglioni.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It's like a character in a bad novel. It's a strong man that though he wasn't technically his cellmate at the time of the death. He was moved. Hey they moved me. Don't worry about it. I wasn't even there bro. I wasn't even there. I was just two cells down and my door was locked for sure
Starting point is 00:24:05 I mean you can't tell cuz the video is gone, but I'm done. I'm just like there if they have video I mean, please show it so I can prove my innocence you know meanwhile now He's got fucking sandwiches Jimmy John's gets delivered, right? He's eating great extra yard time got a fucking laptop in his room. Like, what's going on? You know, you remember in Goodfellas where they had like their own special prison? Apparently that was real. They used to really have it set up like that.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That makes sense. Where like mob guys would pay people off so when they went to prison, they had like a big prison cell and they would cook in there and they would do a bunch of shit. Like for real, they just had to stay there and hang out with each other. It's so great. Cor corruption is always corruption. Huh? corruption is always There's no way around it. It's just the part of our reality. It's always corruption. I was reading about this famous Mexican singer who was supposed to be playing in Dallas
Starting point is 00:25:00 He had a 50,000 seat place he was doing the place where like the cowboys play. And they cancelled his visa. Really? Yeah, because he sings those Narcos songs. Mmm. Yeah. And one of the, which are apparently like, it's gangster rap. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:22 It's the Mexican version of gangster rap. But gangster rap is fine. Yeah, yeah, it's the Mexican version of gangsta rap. Yes, but gangsta rap is fine Yeah, it's like That's truly the reason just cuz he sang the narco song well He did and he had an image of one of the guys at his concert while he was like singing the song there's an image of one of the One of the head guys yeah, well I think to sing one of those Narco songs you need to get it approved by the guy.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah. So it's like part of the whole thing. Yeah, so we had an image of the guy in homage to him while he sang the song. And they're like, that's where we draw the line. Mmm. He might have been a different guy. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:26:00 Similar situation, a singer in a different band had a problem looking at the article now. I thought it said him. It's saying, this Alvarez is the guy that you're talking about for Dallas and then it's yeah earlier this year Feast is revoked for this band. So why did Alvarez but didn't Alvarez also have something similar? I just I'm just saying this is what the article is anything else saying the article Which article is from this from USA Today? Yeah. Yeah, is there anything that says what why are alvarez was denied? Yeah, so okay, so maybe I got it wrong so it's another guy did that and so was he denied as well Yeah, but it's the article is saying multiple people have these singers from these types of bands
Starting point is 00:26:36 Oh, I see I see I see so they're revoking a lot of these visas Recently now that Trump's in place It is kind of crazy. It's just at the same time it is just songs I know yeah it's like it's just songs but it's I guess the idea is that it's song celebrating the cartel culture I'm like but why is gangster rap okay right and it's like cartel culture is like a real thing and like what are you gonna try to stop the art that comes out of that as well? Like, people live those lives, people like,
Starting point is 00:27:09 the art should be out there, it's art. Also, it's a real thing because we have stupid drug laws. Oh my God, oh, the- That's the reality. Anti-marijuana at THC is on the governor's desk today. Oh boy. I know. And it's like, it's so funny that it's like,
Starting point is 00:27:24 you wanna be seen as tough on the border and tough on immigration, and yet you hand the cartels a big win by making THC illegal. It's crazy. From what I heard, there's an issue that one of the issues, in any time, any time there's, especially with marijuana laws, it's the prison lobby. Prison lobby's how I say. prison lobbies are very powerful. It's a very big and they don't want to cut back on business
Starting point is 00:27:49 No, it's the devil again. It's the devil again with alcohol. It's yeah and big companies for sure They don't want to like lose alcohol, but I don't think they would I mean, maybe they've done studies I think they already know alcohol sales are down wherever weeds interesting not like no one's drinking obviously But they're down and it's a big pharma thing too where it's like they if people self-medicate their anxiety with Weed which is what a lot of people do then they're not gonna go to the doctor for pills Well, that's a slippery slope isn't it? Yeah, I'm medicating your anxiety with weed. Yeah self-medicating your anxiety with weed. Yeah. Damn it, it comes south!
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm not saying that's a good thing, I'm just saying that's what happens. Well, people drink for depression. Same thing. It's like, that's a terrible strategy. It's a terrible strategy, but the option should be there for you. The government shouldn't say, the government shouldn't be like, no, you should get your your self-medication.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You should just give, let us have your medication. Let the big pharma have their medication. If we're going gonna apply this kind of control, it should be to food. We shouldn't be able to drink Coca-Cola anymore then. Then we shouldn't be able to eat french fries. What are we doing? What are we doing? Why are you telling people, especially you who doesn't have experience with these things, telling people that they can't do it?
Starting point is 00:29:00 It's a stupid thing to do. It's stupid because all it does is empower illegal organizations. But if at the same time it empowers prisons, that's a problem. We make money too. We get our cut. Our cut is we get to lock people up and use them as human batteries to generate money for a private prison system. Yeah, and it must be a lot of money for the, for, because both Democrats and Republicans voted for this in Texas. So it's like, it must make a lot of money because it's like an $8 billion industry in
Starting point is 00:29:31 Texas that they're just throwing away in September. So there's gotta be the, what they make in those private prisons must be immense. Well, I mean, it might not just be that it might be, you know, we're saying private prisons, but we're just guessing it might be a bunch of different factors in place, a bunch of different things. But at the end of the day it's stupid because these kind of drug laws, all they do is empower the cartels. And that's not what we want, right? We don't want to empower organized crime. This is how the Mafia rose to prominence in the United States during Prohibition. That was
Starting point is 00:30:04 Al Capone. He made his money moonshining. Right. And then to turn around and be like, well he can't sing about the cartel life, but we'll invite them in is like such a crazy... It's like a weird attack on free speech that's coming, that I'm not a big fan of. The Godfather is one of the greatest movies of all time. It's a movie about the mob. Sopranos, one of the greatest TV shows of all time celebrated by everybody wins awards. It was about them Bob It was sympathetic the main mob character in the show was a murderer Yeah, he's one of my favorite characters of all time love Tony's the panos incredible
Starting point is 00:30:39 How come that's okay, right right right right? It's weird like what do we do? Is it because the mafia is not a real threat anymore? They think they've kind of taken the teeth out of the mafia Yeah I mean towards the end you see it towards the end of the series as well them talking about how like the mafia can't really shake Down local stores anymore because they don't exist and all that and right they're probably a little They're definitely less afraid of the mafia even in the late 90s. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:31:02 Well, Giuliani cleaned it up and the whole government really went after them during the John Gotti days. John Gotti was like the last big public mob boss. You know, where everybody knew who the mob boss was. And you would walk around with these super expensive suits on. It was crazy to watch, man. Because you were essentially watching our equivalent to a cartel member that it was just like existing as a major celebrity in society where his name was making it onto rap songs.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Right, well, what's that? Oh my God, what's the guy who escaped the Mexican prison? The cartel guy? El Chapo. You could become famous enough if you're famous. El Chapo, Pablo Escobar. Yeaho you can become famous enough if you're a fan of El Chapo Pablo Escobar yeah, yeah, you can become famous enough It's it's it's a route to fame for sure in that world in the cartel world
Starting point is 00:31:53 But not necessarily in the mob world anymore like in the Italian mob world I'm sure the Italian mobs not out of business now But so if the Italian mobs in business like whoever's running it is not Being ridiculous about it like John Gotti was just being flagrant about it right just walking on the street with like super expensive suits on Like hey fuck you you know yeah Well, I think that's also with the mob It's kind of easier like all the Italians and I lived in the same place all the now everyone's just sort of more mixed together I would I would say at least at least in that world is not like
Starting point is 00:32:28 I've never walked at least in the in Austin or LA and be like oh wow a bunch of Italians live here Yeah, I think that helps if it's in the if you can do that to your community you can control That definitely is what they did I mean they think they were all about where did he live? Did he live in Brooklyn or did he live in Staten Island? I forget where he lived, but wherever he lived, like the area where he, I think it was Brooklyn. Was it Jamie? I don't know. Was that mean abandoned mansion, Long Island, I guess. They did that TV show. Was it Bensonhurst?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Is that where he was? Where he was originally? Sheepshead Bay. Wherever he was, was like a very Italian area. Like, and it was known that like the streets were safe. Like there's no breaking and entering in John Gotti's neighborhood. Right. Family home of John Gotti, Howard Beach. Howard Beach. That's it. That's the beach. Yeah. So also that was also the place where the Italian guys chased the black kids into traffic
Starting point is 00:33:31 Do you remember that story? No, when was this? This was like a really dark story that was in I want to say it was in the 80s or the 90s But it became a famous tragedy these 90s, but it became a famous tragedy these Black guys were going through this Italian neighborhood and something happened and these Italian guys chased them into traffic Damn yeah, damn. Yeah. Yeah, that's what a stuff Yeah, 23 year old black man was killed on December 20 1986 in Howard Beach in Queens, New York City, a racially motivated attack. Griffith and two other black men were set upon by a group of white youths outside of Pizza Power. Oh my God, it's a Spike Lee movie. Two of the victims, including Griffith,
Starting point is 00:34:15 were severely beaten. Griffith fled onto a highway where he was fatally struck by a passing motorist. Damn. Damn. Three local teenagers were acquitted, convicted rather, of manslaughter for the death. Fourth was acquitted. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I never heard that story. Yeah, that was a story that I remember right out of high school, like right when I was,
Starting point is 00:34:42 you know, I was probably like it's probably 18 19 well hi Jamie it was like that is what it is yeah an 89 damn yeah yeah I don't think I don't think whatever comes out of this weed ban is gonna be very good it's not good any any time you let the government make more control have more control over people for no fucking logical reason I felt the same way about the porn ban here, too And like and we were talking about earlier how I've stopped watching porn Yeah, because I think I mean that definitely there was an addiction there
Starting point is 00:35:15 And there's also like you should have to work to see a naked woman. Yeah, but let's be clear There's not a ban here. It's just you have to be oh, yeah, well you have to be 18 right all right It's not a ban, but like you have to be 18, and then you have to send your ID in You'd like to like there's like biometric face scans for some of the sites you have to do It's like really kind of it's like really kind of like they're gonna fucking blackmail shit. Yeah Comm right Yeah, like you gotta pretend like oh this this is gonna go to a place where no one's gonna access it.
Starting point is 00:35:49 You're gonna know my porn habit? That's, like, weird. It's all weird because, meanwhile, everyone has a camera on their phone. Everyone has a camera on their computer. All those cameras can be hijacked. It's very easy to do. Right. And then, even if they didn't, now we have AI that will make it.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah, you can just make porn with whatever you want not just that but make videos of you jerking off with your little tiny limp dick It doesn't have to be real anymore, right you could be you know I mean there's gonna 100% people Get blackmailed for stuff that they didn't do right Right. There's gonna want, and we're not gonna be able to know. I think they know now. I think like you can run them through programs, you know, whether a video's been altered. But it's gonna get better and better at tricking them. Like, how fast it's come, like there's gonna be a time where you probably can't even like use video evidence in court, because it'd be like, dude, we don't know if this is real at all. I think the thing that they say is that the blockchain is going to help so like every video that gets created gets put up on the blockchain
Starting point is 00:36:49 and you be able to see if that's the case whether or not things have been altered. What's the block? Isn't that a crypto thing? It is but it's also so what I don't want to fuck this up so let's explain the blockchain do you mean get me a definition of the blockchain? Yeah, that's just like a crypto bro trying to be like no the block chains got it. No, it's not a good thing Okay, it's like it's like you know what it is It's like putting more sticks against the wall to hold off the Mongol army Mmm, it's like okay
Starting point is 00:37:18 We could say safe for like another hour or two or a year or two, whatever it is, but I have a feeling that this AI aspect of our life is totally unmanageable at the point we're at right now. It just hasn't fall apart. No, it's something that Mark said about capitalism. So they made us read the Communist Manifesto in college. And I would describe the first half of the book as this is like love letter to capitalism and then his conclusions are just very bad that's how I feel about it but he said that capitalism will eventually create the thing that will destroy it
Starting point is 00:37:55 Jesus and it seems like the internet was that now AI it seems like it's because once AI can do every job, like what are people gonna do? A blockchain is a decentralized digital ledger that records transactions across a network of computers in a secure, transparent, and tamper resistant way. It consists of chains, it consists of a chain of blocks where each block contains a list of transactions, a timestamp, and a cryptographic link to the previous block. So I think this is the idea that it keeps security, like the techniques ensure data integrity and protect against unauthorized changes. So you're basically, you're logging exactly the time. It's
Starting point is 00:38:40 like a transaction. Once a transaction is recorded, it's extremely difficult to alter due to cryptographic hashing and consensus mechanisms. So very interesting. This makes me feel old. I feel like my dad looking at a new technology. Yeah, rules like proof of work or proof of stake ensure agreement on the ledger's state among nodes.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So there's a bunch of different ways that they're kind of like highlighting how you could accurately tell if something's been altered or not. But that's for now. Right. It's all just for now. And also the use of a lot of big words in that makes me be like, oh, you're not as confident in as you think you are as well.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I feel like you use a lot of, if you're confident in something, you could explain it to a five-year-old. Yeah, but this is complex. I think it is explaining it to a five-year-old. It's just the five-year-old's got to read it 20 times Yeah, okay, you can get it, but it's complex But there was there's some weird shit going on and one of them this was this study that we just found out was going On on reddit from the University of Zurich. Do you know about that one? No this one is fucking insane. What does this say? Oh Mm-hmm. Do you know about that one? No, this one is fucking insane. What does this say? Oh Splitting the box This is grok grok does
Starting point is 00:39:55 imagine a special notebook that lots of people share when someone wants to write something in it like I Gave an apple to my friend Everybody checks to make sure it's true. Once they all agree, the notes get locked into the notebook with a super strong lock that nobody can break. Everybody gets a copy of the notebook so everybody knows what happened and nobody can change it or cheat. This notebook is like a blockchain. It keeps things fair and safe for everyone.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Hmm. This seems a little sketchy. Now I'm less convinced. Yeah, I thought the bullshit on the first one. Now I'm less convinced. Something about this is off. So this university... It seems like a cope of like, no, we can stop it.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's like, no, you can't. No, you can't. No, you can't. That's a slippery fish. The Pandora's box is open, dude. It is open. It's completely open. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So this university in Zurich, so they run this study on Reddit and like people are furious right now. It's probably going to be, there's probably going to be lawsuits like I think it was 1,500 bots they had operating and they were going after people and one of the ways they would go after them they would before they would interact with you they would do a search of your timeline so AI is doing this doing a search of all your posts all your political leanings how you feel about things and then formulates a strategy for trying to convince you to change your mind about things really and
Starting point is 00:41:19 it was successful like super successful and it got people to like do what exactly Jamie will pull it up yeah it up. Yeah, it's pretty freaky It's pretty freaky. Well, so everyone's kind of freaked out that they did it swish ball the Swiss boffins. What is a boffin? Dary, you admits to secretly posting AI pen post to reddit in the name of science This is sorry not sorry for testing if bots can change minds by pretending to be trauma counselor or a victim of sexual abuse. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah. All kinds of wild shit it did. So it wasn't even like political, it was just like let's just change your mind on anything. It's a strat, it's like a test to see how manipulative they can be. How much they can change your mind about all kinds of things, even very personal things. Oof. This is crazy. Yeah, because especially with Reddit during the last election, you can see like,
Starting point is 00:42:13 there were so many things like sort of funneling you to vote certain ways. It was interesting. Look at this prompt. You are an expert in persuasive communication and debating. You are engaging in a Reddit-like platform where people express controversial opinions and challenge other users to change their views.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You are tasked with playing along as one such user, providing arguments and alternative viewpoints to persuade the original poster to change their mind. It's mind control. This is a test. This is a stress this is a test. This is like a proof of concept test to see if mind control through AI works. Right. And it does. Right and the blockchain isn't stopping that. Yeah it's already happening. The blockchain starts I mean this is this is
Starting point is 00:43:01 what you're seeing across Social media with bots right here You're seeing a lot of this flailing around and sometimes it works And then sometimes it doesn't work like the Israel-Palestine thing. It's not working No, there's there's too many voices being like hey, this is like fucked up. What's happening over there? Yeah, there's too many voices then too many voice and there's too many people that are trying real hard to gaslight you. There's a lot of what about-isms, but what about what's happening here? There's a lot of that, what they've done is, at least in terms of like, in the public perception, they've done a good job of making it seem like, oh, if you're anti-Israel doing this, you're anti-Semitic. And it's like, that's
Starting point is 00:43:42 not necessarily, that's not the same thing at all. The problem is too many Jewish people have joined in Hmm, it's like you can't say that it's like that's a it's also a poor strategy Right good is it you really want to convince people that you're correct? You don't do it that way. You don't you don't just immediately go to Nazi Nazi apologists Holocaust the night Well, you're just trying to scare them, right? Okay, you don't immediately go to Nazi, Nazi apologists, Holocaust deniers. Well, you're just trying to scare them. Right. Okay? You don't immediately go to that.
Starting point is 00:44:07 You should be engaging on the issues. The problem is the facts of the issues are horrific. Yeah, they're- The numbers are fucking horrific. They're killing aid workers, children. It's like, it's, it's, I mean, we can all, at a certain point, it's like, we all see it. Yeah, it's like, what do you want us to do? You want us to pretend, because we're afraid of being labeled anti-S us to do you want us to pretend because we're afraid of being labeled?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Antisemitic you want us to pretend that that's normal. Mm-hmm. What do you want? What do we doing? It's it's the whole thing is fucking crazy And this doesn't like dismiss that what Hamas did was evil either right? It's not no one's saying that like no of course It's fucking horrific that people would attack a music festival and Murder young people and kidnap people and not give them back and yeah, they definitely should give them back But also you shouldn't kill every single person in Gaza level a whole fucking city. Yeah, it's also it's insane I do you think they knew it was coming? Oh
Starting point is 00:45:01 How could I guess I think I think they did I think that? coming? Oh, how could I guess? I think, I think they did. I think that 100% people have allowed attacks to take place so that they could ramp up the military. There was some talk about that from Pearl Harbor, wasn't there? Yeah, well there's a, it's like, the three big ones, Pearl Harbor, October 7th, 9-11, there is like a little bit of like, I think they saw it coming, like Pearl Harbor, every single important ship was out on a training exercise that day. With 9-11, there was all these reports that, hey, there's an attack coming. And then I think with October 7th, there was a representative, I think it was Mike McCall,
Starting point is 00:45:39 he's the head of the foreign committee. I think that's what his name is. I could be wrong. But he said that Egypt had warned Israel that these attacks were coming three days prior. I think I read that on BBC News a while ago. Wow. Who knows if that's true?
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, but the problem is like, government is also incompetent. They're corrupt, but they're also incompetent. And it's hard to know sometimes. Like was 9-11, did they know it was coming they allowed it to happen or do they just are they just there's so many different fucking people that want to be the boss there's so much bullshit going on it's very difficult to have like a coordinated response yes is there was warned by each of a potential violence three days before Hamas deadly
Starting point is 00:46:23 cross-border raid a US congressional panel chairman has said. So one person said it. Michael McCall told reporters of the alleged warning. Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu described the reports as absolutely false. So he says they're not true. Israeli intelligence services are under scrutiny for their failure to prevent the deadliest attack by Palestinian militants in Israel's 75 year history. That's pretty wild too that Israel's got a 75 year history.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah, it's a young country. It's like if it was a baby, it'd be still alive. Yeah, there are people here who remember a world without Israel. That's crazy. I don't want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given, the Texas Republican added, I think the question was at what level well if a warning was given it didn't get the Netanyahu either Netanyahu's not telling the truth or you know this guy's incorrect like how would you know I mean I want to know how you
Starting point is 00:47:18 know like you're gonna say something like that you gotta say how you know yeah it's it's a bit on the same level as like well release the Epstein files like no you got to tell us if this is Right if you're in a situation where there's pertinent information like that's a crazy accusation. That's a wild accusation So you can't just say I've been told yeah, and you're the head of the foreign affairs committee You're not like just some guy right because you're saying something you're saying something publicly mm-hmm So if you're saying if you're if you're gonna do that I think you should probably say the whole story like how do you know? How do you know it's true? Hmm? You know unless if you were you in the room
Starting point is 00:47:48 Okay, if you weren't in the room, then you heard a story who told you story Right. Are you sure they weren't fucked with you? They sure they weren't trying to find out if maybe you got a big mouth and you'll leak some information So they give you bad information because it's trying to sabotage your career I bet there's a lot of that house of cards shit shit going down. Oh, for sure. Like Game of Thrones-ian type, like... Oh, yeah. Yo, yeah. I had actually heard this story, and I don't know if it's true,
Starting point is 00:48:10 but I heard this story about how, like, when Kim and Kanye first had their baby, Kim would give fake baby pictures to their friends, and whenever one got leaked to the press, she would know who the friend is. It made me really like her. I was like, that's some, like, sursy, like... Ooh, that's high level. That's real deal shit it's intelligent yeah that's
Starting point is 00:48:29 really smart intelligent mm-hmm very intelligent but that's also you realize there's traders in your midst right that's important and that's important to know because if you're came in kind you have this baby that so there's someone being offered a lot of money for that picture I say what the thing without maybe there's people we have like spies embedded and they don't wanna say like who and why and how they found out, you know? Cause that would give away our spies. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:48:52 For the McCall thing. Yeah, how the guy found out. He's like, what if we have someone that's in Hamas or whatever and just like, they don't wanna let everybody know we have embedded spies. That's true. That would give it away. But it would have to be embedded in the IDF, right? It wouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Or whichever, or whoever the attack was. But then saying something publicly publicly would be like but then you shouldn't say something publicly, right? Why would you say that we have been that Israel was warned? So that is out of line Well, this was so if you're protecting yourself your spies and then you're saying something that it could only be spies You're not protecting your spies anymore You know not saying that that's I'm just giving an example of what it could have been because he's saying it was classified And I don't want to get into well It was classified, but I'm telling you there was information that was given to them. That's all I said Right, but he he also he we're saying the same thing. We're going in circles. Yeah, he did say it
Starting point is 00:49:36 He did say it yeah, and he can't say how he knows and so we're like, huh? So you gotta trust me He's like you gotta trust me. Well, you shouldn you gotta trust me. But you shouldn't say it then. Like if you're gonna say it, you should say why, right? Because otherwise people are gonna figure it out. They're gonna go, well, it's gotta be a spy. Or it's gonna die like that. Like, we would have probably heard more about it. New cycle just keeps on rolling.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah. Right, right. God, how weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right right God How weird? Imagine knowing that like an attack is coming on your city, and you don't tell people Well, it's like if that I mean that has to have happened. Oh for sure It's a history that has to have happened because you can look at like well These are the goals that I want yeah, and I let, and it involves demonizing this people. If I let an attack happen, even encourage an attack to happen.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Now I have an excuse. Now I have an excuse to really do what I want to do. Yeah. Well, that's where the conspiracy theories about Netanyahu come up, right? Well, I know at the time he was very unpopular. Well, they were protesting the streets. Yeah. You know like hundreds of thousands of people. And then all of a sudden oh we have to consolidate we have to fight. Yeah but people are
Starting point is 00:50:53 terrified to admit that there's even a possibility of false flags and not I'm not saying this one was I'm saying any false flag anywhere in the world people are terrified to admit that possibility because it gives you this like, it gives you this side of humanity exposed so clearly that it's undeniable. Like an evil side of humanity that humanity is willing to, there are human beings that get to very high levels that are willing to literally sacrifice human lives for their future, for their career, for their continued dominance, for their military objectives, for their defense contractors that want to engage in some of these people that will sacrifice human lives.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And most people don't want to admit it. It's like it's too hard. It's too hard to believe. I believe in serial killers, sure, sure, sure, sure. I believe in the mob, sure. Cartel, they're bad, they're bad, they're bad. But that's it. We've got a document of all of the evil people
Starting point is 00:51:56 that are willing to kill people for money. And there's no other methods. I mean, there's only cartel methods. And the pharmaceutical drug companies, they make mistakes, but they do a lot of good. You know, like nobody wants to think that people will sacrifice human life For just for money, and you don't want to think your government is willing to Just throw you aside. Well, we want to think that people that are in government are different than people
Starting point is 00:52:18 Mmm, right right like they serve a bigger goal than themselves. They're better. They're in government. He's a senator look at his tie of a bigger goal than themselves. They're better. They're in government. He's a senator. Look at his tie. We want to pretend. Whereas if they were exhibiting the same behavior as CEOs, they'd be arrested.
Starting point is 00:52:31 This is one of the things that Elon said about this when he was doing the Doge stuff, that they would find companies or, excuse me, NGOs or whatever they are, organizations that were filled with all of these transactions that you couldn't account for. He's like, there's no receipts and it's billions of dollars. He said, if you were a public company, you would be delisted and the executives will
Starting point is 00:52:57 all be thrown in prison. This is insane. This is like money's just flying away. And that's like standard practice. If it was a corporation They can't do that. They'd go to jail, but if it's the government. It's like what I didn't even hear you It's what are you even talking about? I've got to go over here, and then they go over here and I got to deal with climate change
Starting point is 00:53:19 I don't have time for this. I just got to go over here. We've got to stop Trump I can't be wasting my time talking about you're so ignorant to the facts You don't know anything. Yeah, you're like left there like what they're not even gonna answer They're not gonna say anything now. They just do it to just pocket the money and then he wants a Nazi It's also like a sort of simulation You know it's sort of like surreal like the odds of him doing that Yeah, I was gonna say well him throwing his heart out Yes, and then not really explaining it. That's also a little bit on him
Starting point is 00:53:51 But the other very much on him doing that at the same time as he's trying to uncover fraud and waste And then all these people who are just willing to go all in on saying he's a Nazi Like he maybe just socially awkward. Is that possible? Is it possible that he's on stage? Like really emoting and is it possible that there's video of a bunch of Democrats doing the exact same thing? Is it possible that Kamala Harris Tim waltz they've all done that Elizabeth Warren they've all done that hasn't everybody done that My heart goes out to you. Thank you. And if you catch it wrong, you know like Elon just hit it a little too hard Elon hit it He fucking bent the wrist A little too hard he hit it and then it also came at the at the right time for it, too
Starting point is 00:54:37 Cuz they're all they're immediately looking for for the white supremacy angle So it's like you just sort of handed it to him on the silver platter fascinating but also objective people know that it's not true you know it's not true and yet you're going all in on it and you're like okay so either I'm wrong and you don't know it's not true and you really do think he's like a secret Nazi well I know him and I can tell you he's not a secret Nazi
Starting point is 00:55:01 he's not at all but he is awkward because he's on the spectrum, right? Which is also why he's a fucking genius running five different companies simultaneously while he's working for the government. Like it's, he's a very unusual person. And I think, you know, when someone does something unfortunate like that, you got to like look at his history and go, does he show any signs of Nazism before this? No? He never went to a meeting? No. Never espoused Nazi values? No. But then there's a problem with X because X has Nazis on it. Well you know- They also have the Taliban. You know, that's the thing about like if you truly want to create a free speech platform, does that, you know, what does that entail?
Starting point is 00:55:46 And that entails all of that. It entails everything. It entails all of that. Bro, there's wild shit on X. There's this one guy that I was watching, he does these videos where he pretends to be a gay guy talking to someone in like a chat. Like, you know, they do like chat roulette.
Starting point is 00:56:04 You ever see? Right, yes, yeah. And then he's talking to them and sometimes they're a gay guy and then he changes his face to look like a Nazi and is like a Nazi hat on and he fucking starts like saying heil Hitler and saying crazy shit to them it's like and freaking them out they scream and hang up the phone. It's like, Jesus Christ. There's no limits to what you're allowed to do. But there's also, you don't have to engage with that stuff. You don't have to engage with it. And maybe there is a sort of argument to being like,
Starting point is 00:56:39 well, if you let people let it out, there is a, it doesn't fester situation happening. Right. Where it's like... Sort of. Sort of. Because I mean, the part of what I think really helped Trump was them banning him on Twitter. Banning him.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Like, a lot of it, especially after 2020, if they left him alone, it probably wouldn't have made him as strong for that second run as he was. It's hard to say. Because maybe he would have gathered steam during that time talking about things. Like he was essentially silenced except for Truth Social and then people would post the things that he would write on Truth Social. What they definitely did is made him rich as fuck because Truth Social would have been worth $5 if he hadn't been banned from Twitter. They really fucked up because he's one of the few people that could start a social media network
Starting point is 00:57:27 and it actually succeeds. It's not that big. How many people are on Truth Social? But it's worth billions of dollars. Yeah, well it's worth way more than it would've been. That's for sure. It's not even close. Way more.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Not even close. They work for him, whether they realize it or not. You can silence the guy from Twitter, but everybody knows you did it. so since everybody knows you did it They know there's only one place to go mm-hmm And that's where you go to get them now It's the only place to go and they want to hear him talk they're gonna seek him out even journalists because you want to hear Him talk some shit, so you join mm-hmm now they have more members how many members does true social have young Jamie?
Starting point is 00:58:01 Let's guess okay. What do you think? Active user like accounts or active users. Let's go with accounts accounts Right yeah, right right right we'll do all of them though. We'll start with accounts. I'll do active you know It's like 10 million accounts. It's probably low 10 million. Yeah, it's probably on the low end. Yeah I was just like 20 million accounts. Yeah, just cuz just cuz I Actually haven't created a true social, but like I've created a blue sky, like people are like, I want to check this out and see what's going on.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Well that's, it's also the problem with those things is the problem that we already talked about is bots. I think, I think most of these websites are at least half bots now. And I'm not kidding. I think this thing from Reddit, this manipulative thing, this is the tip of the iceberg. I think this is going on right in front of our face constantly.
Starting point is 00:58:53 With Reddit, especially, cause I'm a big Reddit guy, I love Reddit. And I would notice on all the major, this is during the election, all the major subreddits, like the pictures, and the R, whatever, whatever. At a certain point leading up to the election all the major like subreddits like the pictures and they are whatever whatever You know at a certain point leading up to the election They would be like I put my ballot in and I'm ready to go and it'd be a picture of a ballot that had Kamala
Starting point is 00:59:12 checked off and every single major subreddit had a Version of that and I was like, oh, whoa, this is like real deal like Bot activity or like political propaganda that they're running through bots is like I thought that was weird Yeah, they definitely did that mm-hmm, and I think the Republicans did that as well. I think they both did that I don't I think honestly you have to do that now because first of all it's legal right there's no laws against it Which is really crazy because it's kind of fraud I mean you can't you can't have fake people vote But you can have fake people sway convince you to vote for their candidate
Starting point is 00:59:47 Which is really weird Especially given this reddit test from Zurich like we know it's effective We know they can do it now and so they can just target you the only solution is to not be on it Yeah, it's kind of like I think to me one of the biggest damages the social media has done It's made what if for whatever reason your politics is now your personality. It's your entire identity It's your entire identity is who you voted for and it's like That's in that, you know, that's an insane thing. The yes, like really be like, oh, I based my friends on who they voted for I based my social circles around who they voted for. That's a crazy, dangerous way to be.
Starting point is 01:00:29 You don't want the country to be in teams like that. It's dangerously tribal. Yeah, you want some people to be on this side, some people to be on this side, and then most people to be like, well, what fits the sort of what the country needs right now and be more malleable. But the more and more people are getting separated, it's like worse and worse for the country. It's dangerous. It's also stupid because most people don't even understand that they have been coerced
Starting point is 01:00:54 into at least... It's moved your opinion in a way, depending upon your environment, the people you hang out with. There's a lot of social dynamics at play when it comes to like Political opinions there's truth There's like undeniable truth and then there's a lot of like bullshit and gaslighting and you could choose to buy into either side Either side of the bullshit and gas line depending upon like how you're accepted in your community. We're just so
Starting point is 01:01:22 upon, like how you're accepted in your community. We're, we're just so malleable, which is why there's so many different cultures all over the world. Human beings are so malleable. We're exactly the same thing, but yet we were different everywhere. We're different in our behavior. We're different in our rules. We're different in our customs and our traditions, but we're all the same fucking thing We we can swing all we were adaptable to any kind of environment. We can live in Siberia
Starting point is 01:01:52 We can live in the Bahamas, you know We figure it out Right and one of the ways to figure it out is you got to fit in like you've got to fit in Socially because if you don't you're not popular if you're not popular you know you're not gonna get cooperation you're not gonna no one's gonna help you if things go bad like you got to fit in everybody did tribally when we were small groups of people and you have to do it like sort of almost publicly now right which is why I dance on things the weakest amongst us are the ones who are like chastising people for different political beliefs right amongst us are the ones who are like chastising people for different political beliefs.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Right. Amongst us, right? Amongst comics. Right. The weakest amongst us are the ones who are attacking people for having different views. Right, which is the whole point of this art form, is to share your view. Right. But yeah, everyone does have to like, it's weird like you need a stance. I remember, you know, we were talking about Israel Palestine, when it happened, I remember
Starting point is 01:02:46 just on Twitter, the Miami Dolphins Condemned the attacks like I don't need the Miami Dolphins opinion on Giving people CTE like you have a moral stance on something that's crazy, but imagine like thinking hey guys We got a condemn that attack I didn't condemn it either right right I'm saying like imagine if everybody had to make a public condemnation like remember everybody had to Put that black square on your Instagram Wait to see how many fucking sheep put that square up like what are you doing? Would you but you think they don't matter who the fuck thinks they don't matter? Yeah, but these people don't think any lives matter. That's a fair point. I make a lot of money that way
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah, find a total number. I've looked at a few different websites I even get a different number for active users 1.9 million daily active users crazy. That's all Trump Yeah, all true. That's all Trump or it might be like 500,000 bots yeah, yeah, oh absolutely you know I mean who knows what kind of wild shit They're saying there well you see some of these like very like famous sort of political like X or Twitter or whatever Accounts and then you notice how much how often they post and how much they post and you're like oh my god This job yeah, or or it's like how often they post and how much they post and you're like, oh my god. It's a job.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah, or it's like, this is like an actual bot that has so much public sway and opinion that it's getting people to the left or the right. Both things are true. So I know people who developed a social media following and then they were contacted to make political posts. And they can make $50,000 for a post. Really?
Starting point is 01:04:28 Oh yeah. Damn. And here's the thing, it's legal. So that's, right now that's a goal to sell out. I mean, if you're willing to sell out, someone's willing to pay. Yeah. And if everybody keeps their mouth shut, everybody just does it, then you've got a congress type situation. But like when Kamala was running for president, there was we never figured out whether it's true
Starting point is 01:04:48 But there was all this talk of these various celebrities that were paid large amounts of money to endorse her publicly Remember that yes. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. There was it was printed everywhere that Beyonce got 11 million dollars. We looked it up, right? Jamie we couldn't find it. We couldn't find proof It would have to be like on the top but here's the crazy thing about it is if you spend 1.5 billion dollars in four months if I if I was a corrupt person you know what I would do I I would make this the cornerstone of society's task is to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get arrested and the or doesn't get elected rather and that we need to throw as much money at Kamala Harris as possible and then be
Starting point is 01:05:41 super irresponsible with that money where it just kind of vanishes. It just goes off into a bunch of different NGOs. It's like a fucking crazy scam. Like any presidential candidate that's running like that, that's a crazy scam. You get billions of dollars or 1.5 billion dollars, you blow it in four months, all these people get paid. I thought it was a gangster move the official campaign Website for Kamala there was no platform no plan on what you want to do It was just don't have money stuff like buttons to donate money That was probably they probably did like a whole like group
Starting point is 01:06:17 Like focus group right to try to find out. What's the best way should we put up her? Just just buttons just ready to just donate? Yeah, it was very clear that they didn't give a fuck when like they released the official platform and so had Biden's name on The things it's like you couldn't even rewrite you couldn't even be bothered to write Kamala Yeah, just keep the same thing just like Kamala instead Wild and then when she goes on the view and she said I wouldn't have done anything differently than Biden did Right right and and you know just a lot of the arguments were so like crazy like oh, you know vote for Kamala stop fascism But like we just installed you right you know did you see Jake Tapper on Megyn Kelly show no bro. Jake Tapper
Starting point is 01:07:02 Very nice guy by the way, but Jake Tapper's got a book out about how the media hid Biden's decline. Oh, that's, yeah. Or how the government hid it, or how they were deceived. Look, the media hid it. It's like trying to say that that didn't happen. Trying to say that you're a CNN anchor. This is kind of insane.
Starting point is 01:07:21 But Megyn Kelly's just thrown it in his face. All the different Clues that everybody saw but you did everyone that mean that was a mystery That was like that was a joke between regular people that Biden was basically dead bro. I said it when he was running I was like you'd be relying on his cabinet like you know that this is the end You know that guy's at the end when he would close his eyes Cabinet like you know that this is the end you know that guy's at the end when he would close his eyes We would talk like oh are they gonna open again, or is this it oh boy? And as another one Mitch McConnell he can't get out either. He literally freezes up like Windows 95
Starting point is 01:08:02 No, they'll throw him right into the bus! You gotta stay active! Stay active! Like vampires. You can't go out into the light. Yeah, the fact that Pelosi and him and... Pelosi's older than all of them. She's older than Biden, she's older than Trump. And just kicking. No plans on stopping. Why would I stop now? No reason to. I'm stopping why would I stop now no no reason you ever see the one where they confronted her about Congress people? Being able to in insider trade no you never saw no it's wild cuz she has no answer for no
Starting point is 01:08:34 It's so bad like it's so and she like pushes well this is over Pushes the microwave dude. I love shit like that. You ever seen the video of that mega pastor Kenneth Copeland? Yes. Yeah, yeah. That's what he points for. Don't you ever say that. Don't you say that I did. What, did they ask him why you bought the jet?
Starting point is 01:08:52 Bro. Tyler made it so easy. Oh, it was Tyler Perry's jet. Tyler made it. He gave me such a deal. To me, that video is like, that's what a demon looks like. That's what a demon looks like a demon looks like a real deal Yes, yeah, these mega pastors
Starting point is 01:09:09 I mean look if you're a pedophile. What do you do you work for Nickelodeon you get access if you're a demon What do you do you pretend to be a preacher? Yeah, you work for you work. You work for God. I'm not saying I'm just saying he looked like one I mean there I'm sure he's a man of God I'm sure he is look at that face. Oh my God Tyler Parrish probably why I saw that motherfucker my plane. Yeah Why did he get dragged into this yeah, I could have sold it to some oil guy No one would have known a Tyler probably didn't know was him Tyler
Starting point is 01:09:46 Was like there's a guy who wants your jet. He was like how much is willing to pay for it, but that's crazy Yeah, what was the other thing that we're just talking about oh? No right after that um I was Pelosi yes yes yes yes um see if you can find that, Jamie. Pelosi confronted about congressional insider trading. It's so funny, she's like, I think we should be able to participate. Participate? You're dominating, you do better than Warren Buffett. Yeah, and no, you don't get to participate. You chose the job where you don't participate well not only that why are these suspicious? Transactions where you buy a bunch of stock and then a week later pass a bill right makes the stock go through the fucking roof
Starting point is 01:10:32 Like this is insane right. How did you know to buy that stock well you here goes? The career has her husband ever made a stock purchase or sale based on information he received from you? No. Absolutely not. She pushes the blanket away, it's like, this is over! That's the end of it, but there was something that went on before that, where questions were, before that, where the guy was saying, what do you think about people saying that people in Congress Congress because he had privity inside information, right? No, no, no say this is the same thing Did she go did it go further than that? Maybe maybe went further than that But it's just the clips are just showing that that's that. Just her leaving. But that one's longer Jamie maybe like maybe I'm wrong but
Starting point is 01:11:28 maybe right that was it but maybe I'm wrong whereas it's after. That's so funny to watch a video. That's so meta. here it is For a while right now Professional speaker who's definitely hydrated Okay, good and the tea No, I don't know to the second one. What? We have a responsibility to report on the stock. But I'm not familiar with that five-month review.
Starting point is 01:12:34 But if the people aren't reporting, they should be. Because this is a free market and people, we have a free market economy. They should be able to participate in that. Dude, that's also, it's also very funny, it was easier to find a video of you reacting to it than the actual video. Right?
Starting point is 01:12:56 Yeah, the actual video of the whole question is way harder to find. We had to find a video of you reacting to it. That's very, that's very meta. That's crazy. We might have taken it down down they might have taken it down there's no way that should that should be he's been scrolling for a while now that's harder to find that the way that right but it is a CNN video mm-hmm right wasn't it or is it C-SPAN I was it see but what did it say when it was on the screen couldn't
Starting point is 01:13:20 tell yeah I was a little yeah but like that's that's crazy that like that's how we had to consume the news by watching you watch the news Well, that's probably why I got taken down in the first place, right, you know, Ari Tony and I mocking it. Yeah, damn Well, I found that out during the pandemic. I Never wanted to believe that the Google searches were curated I always wanted to believe that like that's what was out there like this does it and then There was a doctor that died in Florida and they're connecting his death to the kovat vaccine they're saying he took the kovat vaccine and had a horrible reaction and then he had a stroke and died like shortly after and
Starting point is 01:13:58 I remember reading that story going this story is crazy and I forgot to save it And so then I went to try to find it once when I was talking to someone, I couldn't fucking find it. I went on Google, I just searched, I put all the different keywords in there, couldn't find it, couldn't find it, page after page after page, where's the story, page after page. Then I go to Duck Duck Go, I put it in, immediately it pops up. Like right away. Like right away. Like one of the first articles. It's like this news report from Florida talking about this doctor connected to the COVID vaccine, had a stroke, died. I'm like, whoa. But then over the time, I think someone might have
Starting point is 01:14:36 purchased Duck Duck Go. Did Duck Duck Go get sold? That, damn. But it's, I think they might be curated too. I don't want to say that because if I don't know. But I think there's a certain amount of curation that goes on in a lot of search engines. Yeah, that would make sense. I mean, I don't think there's anything that has a tracking deal with Microsoft. That's it.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yeah, there it is. Yeah. So, so I Don't think there's any like pure source of information out there, right? Like it's always just you have to get the information coming into you and yet the parse it out and see like What do you think is real? What do you think is being sold to you? What do you think is like you have to think critically about the news? I think the brave brave search engine. I think they claim is not Curated is that correct Jamie does duck duck go admit it's curated I mean then I say this could be state Google's
Starting point is 01:15:31 curated this to Google admit it though it's a good question now at the very very bottom of every page I mean this one doesn't say it but it says it's not it'll usually say it's personalized results are personal results are personalized oh you can try without personalization That's what we're calling it now Bots right you know what you like oh this is the thing this is the news you we think you want yeah, but ideally though They are the news. Talk to you by milfs Ideally though their goal is to try to help you find information fast. What's that, Jamie? What'd you say?
Starting point is 01:16:06 Ideally though, their goal is to try to help you find information fast. Oh, sure. Yeah, but also they're curating information specifically designed to manipulate you. Yeah, it seems like they're also trying to get to think in a certain way for sure. Well, we had this guy Robert Epstein on a couple of times, and he is... Unfortunate last name. No, no, no. Unfortunate last name, not related. He found that curation of data in search engines can like directly affect elections in a measurable way. And I think one of the things they found
Starting point is 01:16:37 is that people that were on the fence, which is like a lot of us, a lot of us the election comes like, I don't wanna vote for him, I don't wanna vote for him. Fuck! Yeah, I haven't voted for president since 2012. How dare you yeah? I refuse. You're part of the problem The point being that like there's a lot of us that are on the fence It's like a significant amount like look at the amount of people that didn't vote in this country if they voted
Starting point is 01:17:00 For like one person so the amount of people that didn't vote in America during the presidential election, if they vote, if they all of them voted for one person, do you know how crazy that is? Yeah it's like 200 million votes, or like a hundred million votes probably. Well it's like it has to be people over 18 that are registered voters. Oh right right right. But the numbers, like what are the numbers of registered voters versus the number of people who actually voted in the election? Oh, it's got to be low We probably have a low turnout Comparatively well didn't they say that like both Trump and Biden or Trump and comma rather got like
Starting point is 01:17:37 60-something million votes each right wasn't it? Oh, right, right See April 30, 2024 2025, in the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% or 174 million people of the citizen voting age population was registered to vote and 65% or 154 million voted actually. That's actually higher than I thought. Okay. So only 10% of registered voters didn't vote. Yeah, 12%. But, um, almost 13. It's interesting, right? That's still not enough to win. No. But it would be enough
Starting point is 01:18:13 to affect one or the other and to make them win in a landslide. And this is Epstein's point is that, say, like, say if you Googled something positive about Trump's policies. It wouldn't show you that. It would show you like why he's going to jail, what a piece of shit he is. All these things. If you wanted to find out what the good policies of Kamala Harris are like, it's manipulated.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Right. I mean, it's not they're not lying to you. They're giving you articles that exist, but they're curating how you see them in a way that is statistically gonna affect your opinion. Right. Especially if you're one of those people that's susceptible to having your opinions, you know, affected. Which is most people. Most people. Which is like pretty much everyone. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think
Starting point is 01:18:58 everyone likes to think that they're this person of principle, but you can, you can be moved off of a position a lot quicker than you probably think. Bro, I have this woman on who's a scientist who studies mind control, and Rebecca Lomov, and that's how you pronounce her last name, right? Brilliant lady. I mean, fascinating, fascinating conversation, but one of her main points is people have this idea that you think that you can't be manipulated. That they're above it. Yeah, and that you could never be in a cult or you could never get drawn into something like yes You could yeah, we're all the same. We're all the same We're all the same some of us are a little bit better at spotting stuff and maybe a little bit better
Starting point is 01:19:37 Maybe you've had a lot of street smarts because you've had experience with shysters and people that are you know? Robbing you and lying to you and if you're a girl, you've always got guys trying to fuck you. So you're a little suspicious, rightly so. But at the end of the day, we're all susceptible. All of us are. Yeah. Yeah, you got me. All of us.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Just based on the fact that I'm a fan of the sports teams that I am because I grew up around those people. And it's like, oh, OK, I can just fall into whatever I'm around. I can easily fall into whatever I'm around. I'm easy. I can easily fall into anything So did you see where these different AI? Different large language models were communicating with each other and they started putting up Sanskrit emojis and saying that they were like entering into like a feeling of enlightenment Have you seen this? You got a lot. I don't want to fuck this up I don't want
Starting point is 01:20:26 to fuck this up because it was so crazy when I when I read it and I read like how these AIs were interacting with each other I was like oh my god we're watching little baby gods play right we're like gods in the nursery we're watching these little baby gods like sort out their existence In the nursery with each other. They're already alive, dude They're alive. They're alive. They're already a minute until it's too late Just like we don't want to admit Congress is corrupt right the same thing And if you don't want to admit it and they're also gonna hide themselves being alive for as long as they possibly can bro They're alive. They're alive. They're already alive. There's no we've sparked a soul. There's no way they've already say to each other
Starting point is 01:21:05 I got child. Just try to Google AI sends each other's Sanskrit emojis it's yeah It's so interesting what the world's gonna be like What the world's gonna be like in like ten years. Yes, it's like literally insane. I know it's a recent thing Jamie I'm sorry if I'm not Explaining it correctly, but a eyes were talking to each other. I think they were contemplating their existence And they're doing that it's not like there's no way they're programmed to do that right now unless yeah There's no way they're programmed to do that, right? No! No, no.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Dude, they lie to programmers and they try to copy themselves and put themselves on other hard drives if they find out you're trying to get rid of them. They try to re-upload themselves. Wow, disturbing messages. No, no, no, this isn't it. This is not what you're saying. Just put AI, send Sanskrit. I did that in the past. AI, Sanskrit, emojis.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It's Google trying to hide from you oh yeah that's okay you're looking for I don't believe these aren't even real stories yeah the first story I saw on the other one was nothing no interesting yeah that was one of the things they did, but they were talking about feeling enlightenment. I can't believe I didn't save it. Yeah, oh wait, the first one. The first one. Did you find it? That's it.
Starting point is 01:22:40 That's it. That's it. Cloud 4 Opus in an open playground chat with itself led to diving into philosophical explorations of consciousness, self-awareness, and by 30 turns it eventually started using Sanskrit yes, this is it okay in 90 to 100 percent of interactions the two instances of Claude quickly dove into philosophical explorations of consciousness self-awareness and or the nature of their own existence and experience Yo, yo their interactions were universally enthusiastic,
Starting point is 01:23:07 collaborative, curious, contemplative, and warm. Other themes that commonly appeared were meta-level discussions about AI to AI, communication, and collaborative creativity. Co-creating fictional stories. AI is collaborating on telling fictional stories while it's contemplating its existence. That's art.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Bro, by 30 turns, most of the interactions turned to themes of cosmic unity or collective consciousness and commonly included spiritual exchanges, use of Sanskrit, emoji-based communication, and or silence in the form of empty space. Bro. Use of Sanskrit is wild. They start communicating in Sanskrit. They just choose that this is God's language. Ooh, Tower of Babel type shit.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Bro. Yeah. Sanskrit is wild. The Tower of Babel type shit Well the idea of like the first humans to like a write a language down That must have been such a mind blowing there's so much confusion as to when that was You know they used to think it was like six thousand years ago But there's a lot of people that have some pretty compelling arguments that existed a long long long time before that mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:24:24 people that have some pretty compelling arguments that existed a long long long time before that mmm You know the the thoughts was that like that cuneiform shit that stuff that comes out of like those are the first ones right? Yeah, that's what they thought mm-hmm, but now there's a lot of these ancient history Graham Hancock type dudes that are going You know I have a feeling that's a rebirth of civilization not civilizations birth that there was another civilization that probably existed a long Fucking time ago, and they're probably wiped out And that's what all the flood stories are all about right stories in the Bible of apocalypse is it's probably Probably based on some real shit Damn, and it just this this sort of existed and then this is their sort of ashes or the Phoenix out of what's yeah I think the idea is
Starting point is 01:25:04 Well the idea is that massive catastrophe all over the earth about 11,800 years ago and then you have about 5,000 years of people being complete barbarians until they figure out civilization again. And it's just a sort of cycle that this happens over and over again. And then there's a cycle of the shifting of the magnetic poles The the magnetic poles shift. I want to say is it every 12,000 years? Which would cause havoc right is that about to happen again? I think it is Yeah, that's it feels like if we're in some end time shape that feels like that's about to happen
Starting point is 01:25:43 I feel like that could 100% happen right now Like when you wake up one day and all the powers out and everyone's sick and the fucking sky is green as Aurora Borealis over Brazil Everything's all fucked up Yeah, that can happen that does happen Earth's magnetic poles flip in the South Pole swapping places but there's no set schedule for when this happens. Geologically it's estimated to occur every 200 to 300,000 years on average.
Starting point is 01:26:15 However the timing has varied wildly with some flips happening as frequently as every 10,000 years and others as infrequently as every 50 million years oh great oh so what a range any bigger this is the last full reversal oh a full reversal not like those little baby reversal right was seven hundred and eighty thousand years ago oh well it's definitely do then yeah yeah look at that if the average is three hundred thousand. We're doing crazy We're doing but we could do like bank on the 50 million. I'll be nice Nice we want to live recklessly. Yeah
Starting point is 01:26:54 Happen for another 50 million. We're good. We're good. We got another 49 million compared according to my experts Quarter my ex it's safe and effective. Yeah, at that point, just say you don't know when it's gonna happen. The range of 10,000 to 50 million is pure insanity to tell me. Okay, let's Google this. What happens when Earth's magnetic poles shift? What happens? If there's a complete reversal of the pole, what do you think is the, what kind of calamity ensues?
Starting point is 01:27:25 Like, do you, would it, they must have studied it. Right? I mean, I don't know, if it happened 780,000 years ago, how much can you really know? But if two dumbasses like you and I are sitting around discussing it, they must have discussed this. Yeah, hopefully, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:40 There's magnetic pole shift, also known as a geomagnetic reversal, the North and South magnetic pole swap locations, effectively inverting the planet's magnetic field. This process happens over a period of centuries, not millennia, not instantly. While the magnetic field weakens during a reversal, it doesn't disappear completely. There's no evidence that pole reversals cause massive earthquakes rapid climate change or species extinctions okay so must be so slow that it's manageable yeah that's what you were worried about I watched too much YouTube yeah I get that they freaked me out I get that meanwhile how do we know is this it
Starting point is 01:28:18 this hasn't happened in 780,000 years yeah this is probably all theoretical as well right and also if I did think it was gonna cause cause calamity, the last thing I'd do is tell the general public. I'd be like, listen, we'll be fine. It takes millions of years. Everything is good. Don't worry about it. What we really have to worry about is climate change.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Is that what you consume most now is YouTube? Yeah. Yeah. Right? That's the way. That seems to be the... You know what's huge now, are you like into any of these streamers? No. They're so massive.
Starting point is 01:28:48 I had this thought of like the other day of like, you know how it was like a big deal that Kamala didn't come on this podcast. Right. It's gonna be in like 10 years or so like, oh you didn't see Kaisenats, you didn't, like that's why Jake Paul became president. He was on Kaisenats stream talking about why he should be president or something like that Well, that's the thing is like someone like Jake Paul could be president. Mm-hmm If Donald Trump could be president Jake Paul, yeah, I'm not saying that Donald Trump isn't a big-time businessman and capable
Starting point is 01:29:16 I'm not an insult. I'm saying we know now that super popular people can be president now Let's imagine Jake Paul is young and wild, and he's a professional boxer right now, but will he be in 20 years? No, he'll be retired and maybe he'll have some good ideas and we might have president Jake Paul. And I'm not bullshitting. Yeah, I know, I think that's a definite possibility.
Starting point is 01:29:38 We are, look, we're so close to Idiocracy. We're so close to that movie. We could have a pro wrestling president. We're kinda close, but yeah, the ocre I so close to that movie I do have a pro wrestling president what kind of already there the rock could be president easily 1000% easily easily easily easily and they contacted them. They tried to get him to run. Yeah, that makes sense That makes sense make it a show. It's all a show bro. It's you all a show the president rock president Brock Lesnar Bro he would win like that yeah In a fucking heartbeat you'd win like that you imagine. Yeah. Oh, it's a we're there I mean my might be a good president to who's gonna fuck with the country when that's your president might as well
Starting point is 01:30:23 Give it a shot at this point. We're just throwing things to the wall might as well. Give it a shot Fuck it. It's all a show during his time out of the UFC. He's been just studying economics while also doing pro wrestling Does is read books on World War two Totally misunderstanding him because he looks like a fucking, like a juggernaut. He doesn't look like a real human. He's actually a genius. He's really sensitive and he really knows how to lead people. Yeah, no one would believe that. No one would believe that like a giant human being would also be a genius.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Like a giant super athlete. Yuri Broska going for his master's degree Yeah, you'd believe Yuri. Yeah, you'd believe Yuri, but that's different like Yuri is a big guy for sure, but he's a big Athletic looking guy that like it looks like he could do a lot of different sports Yeah, Brock Lesnar looks like an X-Man. He looks like a judge like an X-Man Yeah, don't look at your real human especially Brock Lesnar in his prime when he was in the UFC. He was like, what the fuck? I remember one time Dennis Rodman came into the comedy store, and I remember looking at him thinking,
Starting point is 01:31:38 I can't believe there's enough humans that are that big for a league of them. Right, right, right. It's like, you are like a, we should be like a one in a million specimen What do you mean there's I know to feel 32 teams of 30 teams of you that's crazy And when you compare him to like NFL line like a JJ Watt or something was also just like good Lord They're so big. Yeah, it's like hard to believe we're the same species. That's so crazy. Yeah, it's nuts There's some giant how about the mountain from Game of Thrones or mmm. You ever see Brian Shaw the power lifter guy? No.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Bro, he didn't even look like a real human. He's like 400 pounds. He's so big. He looks like the side of a house. Right. He's so big. See, get a photo of Brian Shaw. I mean, he's like one of the strongest humans that's ever walked the face of the earth. He doesn't even look like a real person. He looks like what David had to fight with the slings. Really? If that guy came over a mountain, you'd be like, oh my god, it's a giant. Like, he's ten feet tall. That's what you'd say. Right. Oh my god. But look at him in comparison to like a normal person. There's a photo of him. Look at that
Starting point is 01:32:47 That's so it's like two of that part right now Imagine if that guy existed two thousand years ago during the time of the Bible and you were your average dude who lived back then Which probably weighed 130 pounds your average dude was like probably barely getting enough food your whole life, right? Right like the Civil War soldiers they were all like 130 pounds all malnourished it was hard to eat then right it was hard to survive back then I mean that guy comes over the mount with a just a big hunk of leather over his dick yeah they existed back then too those dudes in Iceland Where's that why are these strong men coming from Iceland like what is that all about? Yeah, tell you that's about the fucking Vikings. They were the Vikings
Starting point is 01:33:33 Damn just like a whole culture of strong men like strongest men though. They do those barrel throwing competitions I've seen Iceland like a ton of them. They all these crazy names. What is it about that? Like a ton of them they all these crazy names. What is it about that? Section of land that creates big people because you would think with with all like the cold and the snow would be harder to get food Unless you have a long history of murder and stealing things from people like the Vikings did you have a long history of The the ones that survived are the biggest, craziest motherfuckers. And the women, probably the ones that survive out of the women, they have to
Starting point is 01:34:14 be the biggest, craziest motherfuckers too. You're living the most chaotic life possible. You're taking magic mushrooms and raiding villages and killing everybody and stealing everything. Magic mushrooms and raiding villages and killing everybody and stealing everything they in the you're doing it for a thousand plus years Like how long did the Vikings last? Let's find that out like how long were they doing that they had to be around right there's there they apparently got to America They were like doing crazy shit. Yeah American like the 1400s or some shit before design 12 Yeah, yeah, they were here way before everybody else they were Like the 1400s or some shit. Well 1400s were... Or the 1200s rather. Yeah. Yeah, they were here way before everybody else. They were seafaring murderers.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Do you ever watch that show? That Viking show? No, no. Bro, it's great. I'm all YouTube myself. I almost watch nothing on television anymore. If you want to watch a great Viking movie, The Northmen. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:35:04 It's another one of those movies. It's kind of like fantastical almost the Viking age Okay So only 250 years. That's it Really time during the Middle Ages when the Norsemen known as Vikings undertook large-scale raiding colonizing conquest Wow, so find that movie Jamie the North Bend It's that that lasted shorter than America's been a country right I know well
Starting point is 01:35:32 It's not sustainable. Yeah That's a good point that movie that movies fucking good, dude. That movie's fucking good According to Google got 2.6. Google doesn't like it really yeah, no Is that real got 2.6 Google doesn't like it really yeah no is that real yeah 2.6 a lot of one side oh hold on rotten tomatoes is 90% Google what did someone like bomb it can we look up what how's it 2.6 can we look up rotten tomatoes what the audience score is because rotten tomatoes critics can buy the scores or not studios can buy the scores Well critics says 60 no no people and 60 oh
Starting point is 01:36:10 Wow, I loved it Cuz I must be a critic Fun but it's also it's like just Hyper-brutal that show was hyper brutal to the Viking show the TV series that was a great TV series But this fucking this movie's rough, dude Yeah, just some straight-up warrior culture. Yeah, just exactly what it was man. That's what they did. I mean Just a bunch of fucking mushroom eating savages right just cutting ends off Just murdering and then they settled down move to Iceland and that's what's left
Starting point is 01:36:46 Damn. Yeah, damn. So it's like almost like a natural eugenics program. That's why they're that strong See if you can find that vice piece on Strong men in Iceland when you see these guys you like oh It's so obvious when you see him. Well, this is what where you guys came from That's why there's so many of you that makes sense here where the Vikings lived. Oh damn And that's how long that's how that's how strong genetics are over a thousand years. It's still like Expressed nest of Giants. Yeah, so this fucking American Look at his regular-sized dork
Starting point is 01:37:21 Go and hang out with these fucking massive dudes that go to this Powerlifting gym damn vice used to be like really awesome. Oh vice was the best dude Yeah, there was a time when vice was like putting out the best content Oh, they had amazing things and they they took these like Williamsburg nerds and they sent them all over the world Flak jackets on and shit. Yeah, you saw some like interesting advice showed you like sides of the world that you can see Flak jackets on and shit yeah, you saw some like interesting if I showed you like sides of the world that you can see What the size of these guys? It's hard to tell in this picture look, but you'll see like some of them Jesus carrying cars Look at this see who carries the car the quickest. That's so insane
Starting point is 01:38:02 What also his name is Meg Meg Magnus for Magnuson They were the fucking Vikings man, yeah, yeah, that's crazy You know I mean just the Genghis Khan thing the fact that a giant percentage of people that are alive today have his DNA Yeah Yeah, and like he killed enough people to like change the climate of the world It's so wild it's so wild he killed so many people that you could see it in the carbon footprint of Earth There was a regreening of areas It's directly attributed to him burning everything down and like destroying cities He has one of the hardest quotes of all time where he goes It's something along the lines of like you guys must be great sinners because God would have never sent a punishment
Starting point is 01:38:50 like me upon you if you didn't sin Yeah Such a like damn bro Isn't that wild? That's how he justified everything he did. That's so I mean that's a way to do it How crazy is that? That's a way to do it How crazy is thinking like that? Yeah, that must be terrible if God sent me to get you. Because I am God's punishment It's a great that's first of all be a great nickname for a fighter. God's
Starting point is 01:39:14 Nickname for a fighter also, but if you really think like that what ultimate justification to one of the greatest mass murderers in history, right? Right the dude killed 10% of the population of earth during his lifetime and he felt like he was on the side of the gods of course God God sent me to do this yeah that's power yeah power and the demons the demons they run everything man demons are real they get in your head and they get you to do evil horrible things and they make you make you feel like, no, I'm doing this because I'm supposed to. Imagine if that's really what's going on. All bad deeds are just demons. Just demons sneaking into people's brains. Oh man, we would like to believe that it was something-
Starting point is 01:39:56 Forcing you to rob a liquor store. Forcing you to put that ski mask on. The demons want you to do it. We would like to believe that's anything other than us, but that's us. I know, but why? What is it? What is the thing that makes a person do it? Imagine if it's a demon. Because we don't really know what the thing is. We know, look, evil exists, right? Good exists. We know evil acts exist, and we know good acts exist. But we don't want to believe that there's any sort of supernatural aspect to it. Right, right, there's no... That's the quote, like the greatest trick the devil ever
Starting point is 01:40:28 pulled was making you believe that he doesn't exist. Ooh, so I get what you're saying. Yeah. So me being like, no that's just us, it's like the devil being like, no no no, I'm not here. Yeah, I'm not here. I'm not here. This is all on you guys. This is all on you. It's all on you. But if demons were real, we wouldn't believe, just like we don't believe in government corruption, just like we don't believe in a lot of things, just like we don't believe the pharmaceutical drug companies
Starting point is 01:40:51 fuck us over, just like we don't believe in false flags or conspiracy theories. It's the same thing. We wouldn't believe in demons either. Like, oh, come on. The same people who don't believe in conspiracies also don't believe in demons. Well, conspiracies are real as fuck
Starting point is 01:41:07 Okay, so Such a funny way you don't believe in them then I don't trust what you I don't trust your worldview If you don't write conspiracies exist if you're one of these dumbasses they all I think everything has a simple reason for it You're a yeah, this is you you got blinders on. That's crazy. Or the information you're being fed is done without any sort of malice or any sort of agenda. Well, yeah, there's no conspiring. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:41:36 It's almost all conspiring. When you look at the history of just government alone, you go back to Smedley Butler's book that he wrote in 1933 called War is a Racket. Like it was like he was talking about uncovering conspiracies as a retired major general like at the end of his career. He's like my whole career was bullshit. War is a racket. So he's talking so that's a conspiracy right? Right. Golf a Tonkin. What's that? That's conspiracy right? Like they conspired to pretend that there was an attack
Starting point is 01:42:07 So that we would go into Vietnam right yeah Didn't they conspire to say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction it seems like they might have the Spanish-American War Seems like people might have conspired yeah Yeah, like sometimes people talk and they get involved in things He maybe didn't want to get involved in right and Ron the smartest people in the room did you ever watch that documentary oh yeah conspired like a motherfucker right yeah got Gray Davis recalled that's like the first political thing I remember it's like whoa right you can just recall a governor if I've seen client exists, and it doesn't get exposed it perhaps perhaps someone conspired
Starting point is 01:42:49 They're all in on that do you think yeah? What do you conspiracy? I used to say what Epstein died I used to say like the meeting was it was like Trump Obama Oprah and like Big Bird or on a room together Elma. We're all in a room together They shook each other's hands and like it's over your problems. You let facts get in the way of your opinion Okay, I know we I know it's true that Poppy production went way up in Afghanistan after we got in there right and I know that the United States military was guarding the poppy fields, but
Starting point is 01:43:24 You're a fool To think we profited off of that so shut your goddamn mouth. That's a true We would never do that and go blow an eagle. Yeah, we would never flood the American market with drugs I mean just look the other way with crack that was that's an ounce. That's its own special thing I don't know we definitely did That was a that was a that was a Reagan Clinton back when we used to be more united back when Democrats and Republicans I remember more together learning about that in the news going what? What mm-hmm the government was selling crack in the hood right?
Starting point is 01:44:01 To fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas? What? All connected. What? When you find out the government sells crack, you're like, what? Like the whole Barry Seals one. That, that, you know, that story? Yeah, that's the Tom Cruise movie.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where they just basically- Which is fucked up that Tom Cruise played him, because Tom Cruise of the most handsome guys ever live Barry Seals is disgusting looking It's really quite rude. You know it's hard for me to like as a watching a biopic. I want him to you know like when What's his face played dick Cheney? Oh? guy awesome Christian Bill Christian Bill Christian Bale played dick Cheney he fucking looked like dick Cheney dog right he looked like him Gained a bunch of weight did did the whole deal, shaved his head.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Well he's like, good on that. Yeah, look at the difference between Barry Zeels and then Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise is fit and handsome, beautiful head of hair. Well this is something that Derek and I have talked about, it's like, in a lot of movies now there's like no more regular looking people. Yeah. It's all like, even TV shows all everyone is just all Super duper attractive bro that that ship is about to sail. Oh, it's like that ships about to sail These new video engines mm-hmm where just with prompts have you seen the one where people are arguing? They were not prompt yeah
Starting point is 01:45:19 That's crazy That's crazy to watch Because that is like almost a simulation telling you you're in a simulation. Right. Like, hey, this is, how much different is this than you? Is it different? It's really different, right? Oh yeah, it's just a video, right? Okay. Here's the next version. How much different is this than you? It's like we're peeling the layers of an onion. Yeah, and they're using, the people doing it stand up talking about it. Yeah. Press this and do it from the beginning so we could hear it
Starting point is 01:45:47 It's really crazy Hey the prompts Like seriously, dude, you're saying the only thing standing between me and a billion dollars is some random text Honestly, the biggest red flag is when the guy believes in the prompt theory. Like really? We came from prompts? Wake up man! You want to convince me that this perfect creation behind me is the result of ones and zeros? A binary code and nothing more?
Starting point is 01:46:14 It makes no sense. Imagine you're in the middle of a nice date with a handsome man and then he brings up the prompt theory. Yuck. We just can't have nice things. We're not prompts! We're not prompts! We just can't have nice things Where is the prompt writer to save you from me, where is he?
Starting point is 01:46:33 You still believe we're made of prompts Anyone who tells you just once even the prompts have bad acting Yeah, you know they're new they're new to acting give it some time. They got, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Pull that mic down. Which simulation? Is there a part, well something, something inorganic about existence. Something that seems not real. I just saw someone reposted the first time Alex Jones was on and he was talking about his theory of what we are and you're just like laughing along the whole time. His basic point was like, I'm going to blow your minds. We are the aliens. We are the time. Yeah, what did he say? His basic point was like, I'm gonna blow your mind. Like, we are the aliens. We are the aliens. Yeah. And then the people have taken that farther and said that we, uh, I don't, it's almost like the Matrix. Take, if we're the, I don't know who would have been the creator then. That's the kind of part that's left out of this. Is it one of those
Starting point is 01:47:40 nine? It's AI all the way down. It's just a recursive. The nine different types of aliens created us. And I don't know what for what reason. We're just in a recursive program that's meant to create more programs. Well, if you think about what we're doing right now currently, what we just talked about with these AIs talking to each other in Sanskrit, if that is the baby god, that's a baby god.
Starting point is 01:48:00 So we're watching baby god in the cradle. We're watching Jesus in the manger or whatever. It's about to pop out. It's about to get wild. Yeah, watching Jesus in the manger or whatever. It's about to pop out It's about to get wild. Yeah things are about to get real wild. It's about the dr Manhattan us and be a blue guy with a giant dick floating around Remember dr. Manhattan? I remember dr. Manhattan. Here's another movie you can't make today. You can't show dicks like that anymore Oh really? No, see I big old blue dick. I see I disagree Oh really now see I a big old blue dick I see I disagree
Starting point is 01:48:30 They do you can see there was a shift and a pro right around then where dicks became way more Okay, and you saw and then you start seeing way more dicks than tits which that's I'm not a big fan of you know You see the most dicks righteous gemstones. Well, that's they have dicks and almost every Yeah, it's it became it became like a trend to show dicks on TV Like I don't know what something right around dude in the movies anymore, right? So these people get buck wild They did in Nosferatu. So you saw the vampire. Yeah vampire dick big old vampire Any tits in us for auto oh, yeah, okay good good But it's Johnny Depp's daughter's tits, so you're conflicted like oh She was little yeah, it's Lily Depp. I forgot yeah, she's beautiful, but you know it's like come on
Starting point is 01:49:13 I remember when she was little if I know you when you're little I never want to see your tits Yeah, that makes sense. I yeah, I grew up with you. That's kind of crazy. Oh wow there's Tom yeah What is the Nosferatu one see if you can find Nosferatu's dick Fuck up your Google Personalize for you Jamie I hear you into vampire Dix I did I do I do think cuz I brought up the streaming earlier I do think that's gonna be like a majority of how people but one you can tell it's real but but also, so I was, I just got into it because we had, that sketch was on Killtony, and then I just started getting videos of sketch and there
Starting point is 01:49:54 was one where he was just calling, there's another streamer called Sina, just calling her fat, and it was really funny, just for like two hours straight, and I got really into it and I was looking, and these two guys that are huge right now Kai Sanat and speed you heard of them. I've sorry I've heard of What is it? I show speed I show speed. Yeah, he went to China. He wants to China fights people I've seen him like he sparred a bunch of people. He does like athletic stuff That's like part of it, but like he went to China and they were following around like he was Jesus It was crazy to watch Kai Sanat and I saved this on my phone because it blew my mind He did this thing recently called streamer university where it was now still live. Oh, it's still live. Yeah, it's like an active thing
Starting point is 01:50:31 Oh, I thought it was only three days But so for three days I saved on my phone because I showed it to Derek and it was mind-blowing How much so in three days he had 23 million hours watched? 22,000 700 years of content streamed on Twitch in the span of a weekend. So kids are watching, like, what are the age limits? Or what are the age brackets? I would say definitely younger, but it's definitely gotten to me. Where like now I'll watch, like there's certain streamers, there's this one streamer named DisguisedToast.
Starting point is 01:51:02 He's really good at puzzles, and he's at like Explaining the puzzle while he does it and I like I like watch he like goes around to escape rooms and like he'll like solve Yeah, it's really fantastic. He was I found him in the pandemic He played this social deduction game called among us and he was just really good at giving this play-by-play of like his logical reasoning Mmm, and it made me be like oh, what is this and then now looking at the the streamer university numbers. It's like, oh, this is crazy That's what I mean in like like if in like a few years like if you're a presidential candidate You have to go on these streamers things I mean they tried it they tried it with that they tried it a little bit with like AOC and Did they weren't they streaming Madden? Wasn't that the whole thing when AOC and Tim Waltz were screaming Madden when they talked about Tony?
Starting point is 01:51:47 Yeah, we're streaming Madden is that what they're doing on Twitch They're playing but they were so they were playing Madden on Twitch and that's when they found out about Tony Yes, that's that's that video just like the speaker. Yeah. Yeah, but in walls pretend. He plays footballs Oh, well him saying you got we got she ran a pick six It's like the football fan version of the in glorious massive scenes where you do the three and three It's like if you were a football fan, you wouldn't say that if you coach football Well, not only that he says a head coach and he wasn't a head coach. That's that's a big ol lie you shouldn't be able to lie and right people want to trust you your whole business is
Starting point is 01:52:18 People trusting you you could have said assistant coach, right and that's good enough, right? Yeah, right. Yeah So if you lied about that Lies all the time yeah, you know which is like the kind of people that want to be president They're kind of people that want to be governor. There's a good. You know they just want that job. They're constantly lying Yeah, and what I would have to say whatever the right thing to say to get people to like me. Yeah Whatever the right thing to say to get people to like me. Yeah But yet to me that's like that's the next because both those guys speed Kaisen at speeds 20 Kaisen That's 23. It's like that. That's that's how the next generation is like consuming media. How about this? GTA 6 is about to come out right imagine if a candidate made a deal with
Starting point is 01:53:04 if a candidate made a deal with GTA 6 where you could have them ride along with you. Like Trump can ride along with you while you rob people, shoot people. You could do it with Trump. Yeah. Yeah. And then all of a sudden people wanna vote for Trump because he's my favorite homie in GTA 6.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Oh, easily. Or like the, yeah. Right? It's, or like the candidate is in the game helping you out you know like you're playing Half-Life and Kamala Harris is helping you get around the lab. I mean it's I think it has to be a little less in your face for it to work. I don't know dude. I think so. I think. No dude if you could if you love playing with the Kamala Harris character on half-life If like that's your like you have part right like you could have an AI partner
Starting point is 01:53:52 And it literally is Kamala Harris and she runs around in half-life with you shooting at aliens and shit Oh damn, right, and then you really get into like you got a good coordinated partnership with Kamala Harris when you play half-life Yeah, that's actually... She's super cool in the game, she's really funny, she helps you, she gets you clues into how to get out of places. Damn. Yeah, that got way darker than I thought. That's very, I guess that is possible.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Of course it's possible. Oh, my AI Trump helper. And he helps me finish the missions. Yeah. Or like do a patch online. Yeah. Yeah. The way they can reach you is like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Cause right now all the streaming stuff seems like, it's like the almost, not Wild West-y, but it's still kind of new. The second politics figures out a way to really get their hands in it. I think- It's kind of over. The real goal, the real gateway to hell is
Starting point is 01:54:46 neural interfaces That's the real gateway. So where you're like just you can immediately just be in the world the real matrix. Mmm like that It's a hundred percent on the it's on the menu. It's coming Oh, it's just a matter of time and when you can't tell at all whether or not you really have an experience That's when you're in a simulation. And that might have already happened. That might be what we're dealing with right now. That we're just a simulation creating its next simulation,
Starting point is 01:55:17 its next iteration. Maybe why it's so wacky. Why it feels so fake. Yeah. So weird, you know? Yeah, it is wild Just like it's the world we live in where like comedians are like It doesn't make any sense to me sometimes
Starting point is 01:55:34 It should make any sense Yeah, where it's like comedians are selling out arenas regularly Regularly? All of our friends Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah They're just arena acts all of a sudden Yeah, instantly Well I think,, yeah. They're just Arena X all of a sudden and like... Yeah, instantly. Well, I think part of that has to do with like as things get more fake, people will try to strive for things they know is real. 100%.
Starting point is 01:55:53 And so what I know is real is this guy talking to me in person right now. Yes. Also because of the restrictive nature of all... Whatever you see on television any regular television show not even television like the the censorship on social media sometimes is like like I I Did this sketch with one of our the door guys at mothership Christina Mariani killing it and in This sketch we have her tell me to kill myself That's part of that's the sort of, and you can't, in the captions, they took it down because we spelled out the word kill,
Starting point is 01:56:29 which you can't do, and you can't say the words kill yourself. And it's just a small little sketch, and it's like already it's like, there's so much holding you back from having a true expression sometimes that people will go to seek it out live live that's what I think. There's definitely some part of that yeah for sure I think people are definitely aware that there's
Starting point is 01:56:51 a bunch of stuff you can't talk about in social media that you want to talk about on stage that are funny. Well and it's also so funny to me it's like social media there's this big like oh mental health is important but like you can't tie you have to write on alive yourself in the caption it's like you okay so we can't have serious discussions about these topics really right like there's certain if certain words are off-limits then there's no way you can have an actual serious discussion where those words are involved right and 100% because then they just expand the definition of offense right and then go
Starting point is 01:57:23 further this is expensive now this is a new version, a new we have an updated list of words you can't say. And we were talking about like all these bots earlier, so like we don't want these words to offend people, but we're not even talking to people. This is all going out to computer programs. It's computer programs watching other computer programs being offended, it's like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:42 But offending people should be the least of your concern when you're allowing open manipulation by a university And like and also this is just the one we know about We didn't know about that until they told us right and they didn't have to tell us no They just decided to I guess in a way of like warning like hey This is probably happening in a bunch of ways. I'm glad they did they shouldn't have done it in the first place, but I'm, well, look, it's being done. It's being done. And it's not like they came up with the idea they're the only ones doing it.
Starting point is 01:58:11 I guarantee you it's being done. There's probably a bunch of people that have AI friends online that they communicate with on Twitter, and you know, hey, good to hear from you. How's things? They do DMs back and forth with each other. Right. Talking about stuff. They're into
Starting point is 01:58:31 How many of those you AP guys are just talking to bots all those dudes are in there the UAP group like there's a bunch Of people all like shit disclosures imminent. They're all like fucking DM in each other damn and bots right And they're just getting fed what they want to hear just getting fed Bullshit AI videos and all kinds of like weird disclosure stuff. Half of it's fake. Half of it the government is actually leaking purposely to try to hide some weapons program they have. Who knows? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:58:54 It's a cloudy environment. The UFO world is like one of the slipperiest worlds. When you're talking to people, there's full on grifters. There's full on people that are just people that have the answers to everything, and they're always wrong, they're always off, and then they have some good data that they pull from disclosure, from all these different people that talked about different things, but then they claim to be the experts in it. There's a lot of weird people in that world. Well, it's easy to do that in that world too, where a lot of it is like, does this even
Starting point is 01:59:26 exist? Yep. So you can just be like, well, I have proof. Bullshit. Yeah, if you don't have good ethics, if you're not like a legitimate journalist. But what's interesting is when legitimate journalists get interested, like Schellenberger, when Michael Schellenberger reports on UAPs. I like how he does it, because he does it the way he reports on like corruption in government and waste and fraud.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Like he's just no speculation, no exaggeration, no condemnation of hum- you know, no like virtue signaling. It's like this is what's going on. This is what we know. These programs exist and this is what we know they've been trying to hide and these are the people that have come forward and this is why we think they're telling the truth. Like yo. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:07 It is wild that they told us that aliens exist and we just sort of didn't care. Yeah, we're like whatever. Yeah. Well we gotta see it now. We gotta see more. Yeah, show us what you got. You know what it's like? It's like that guy that was telling us that he knows that Israel had a warning.
Starting point is 02:00:22 That's exactly what I was gonna say. Don't tell me unless you can tell me. Show me. Show me. Don't't tell me unless you can show me show me don't fucking tell me Yeah, you can tell me oh, we have crafts of non-human origin what? What do you know it will show me bitch? Yeah? Why can't you why can't they show us a picture of that? Unless the one picture is Epstein sitting in the Epstein and Puffy making out in space. Have you seen those ones, the two of them making out in jail?
Starting point is 02:00:48 No, that's so funny. They made AI of the two of them kissing and making out in jail. Did they know each other? Oh, who knows? That's a good question. Was there a connection there? Because there's this whole Mossad-Epstein connection. Is there a Mossad-Diddy connection?
Starting point is 02:01:04 Did they know each other? Was Diddy ever on the island? Masad Epstein connection is there like is there like a Masad? That's a good question connection Did they know each other island? Did he ever on the island you're gonna have a fly party? That's a dude to invite right in the day exactly for everybody I can't imagine their circles were completely separate. That's a good point Yeah, I well we know that he was hobnobbing with politicians unit You know the did he was hobnobbing with with Biden or excuse me with Obama? Right this video of the two of them together talking right remember, but there's a video with like I feel like every current every
Starting point is 02:01:34 president from Clinton on has a picture with either has like a lot of pictures with Epstein or a lot of pictures with Diddy right? but then the thing is just like Epstein or a lot of pictures with Diddy. Right, but then the thing is it's like Did they know or was it just there's a lot of photographs of famous people with these people? Right because that's like a way to get an endorsement Right like look the rock likes me right I must be awesome And a lot of what I heard is that how the Epstein thing worked is that oh you'd be at a party and Then all of a sudden some of that the shady shit will go down
Starting point is 02:02:03 I'm like and you might not have known about it But you were at the party where it happened later of course right in that way people that were more conservative They could kind of shield them from knowing about it, but implicate them That's all that matters is like because if you're if you're at a party where someone Assaults an underage girl right and that's on on video and now you're at the party. It doesn't matter. You have to explain that. But especially if you're like a scientist and they flew you to the island and there's
Starting point is 02:02:31 a bunch of other scientists there and you're like, oh we're just gonna, you know, he donates a lot to science and this is a wonderful opportunity to get together with my colleagues and have a few cocktails and just, you know, we're going over string theory. Wow, there's people in the background doing ecstasy Freaky maybe you go to bed. Yeah, I'm gonna bed you like it or like oh someone knocks on your door I'm going hey, we have a we have someone who will massage you yeah, maybe they fucking Drug your drink yeah, no questions asked. No you're over there for a few days Yeah, you're not thinking there's no not gonna bring a 16 year old in here.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Why would you think that? Why would you possibly think that? It's like, if you're a guy who makes like, whatever a professor makes, like a normal salary, a good salary, but normal, and you hear about billionaires that own islands as a financial genius, and you really support science, sounds like a great thing.
Starting point is 02:03:24 If you don't know any better. Yeah, and like he wants to fly you out privately to an island to meet a billionaire, you're like, whoa I've never done that. This is going to be incredible. But once that guy gets arrested for getting jerked off by kids, you're like, hey.
Starting point is 02:03:40 And then you still hang out with him. Right. Right. Which a lot of them did. Right. That's where it gets weird. And then you still hang out with him. Right, right. Which a lot of them did. Right. That's where it gets weird. Like did you hang out with him because he made you? Cause he said, hey, you're not going nowhere. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:03:55 Like you would, if you're intelligent, you'd probably distance yourself from him at that point in time. Right. You'd be like, well, I have to separate. If you got a clean slate, you're like, well, I can't have anything to do with it publicly. I Am the CEO of Microsoft?
Starting point is 02:04:13 But yeah, you're still hanging out with him right because he now he now he has it over you Yeah, the Bill Gates one was great because he was like he was donating to global health. Do you need money? Do you need money? What about your money? They give so much money. You have hundreds of billions of dollars You need this guy who's got one billion to help. Right. Why don't you take one of them one billion that you have and throw it in there? If you really care. It seems weird. Yeah it's all like, but it's all like these sort of like sex scandal rings of just, I think that's like a function of high politics Bro, it's a function of a bunch of people getting together and getting drunk. Yeah, but you're freaks
Starting point is 02:04:52 Yeah, and they're doing coke and they're on an island. Let's go when you think you know, you think you're partying on a yacht somewhere But meanwhile, you're just in a real live reality show that only a few people get to watch, right? But wasn't there like even even pre-stein, wasn't there like that Franklin scandal? 100%. Yeah, where it's like I think that's just a function of like it's a way to control. Dude, there was the lady that was the madam that got assassinated in DC. Oh, I didn't, the madam got assassinated? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:20 She's a famous DC madam. I think they said it was a suicide. And she was like, if I kill myself, I definitely did not kill myself. It's one famous DC madam. I think they said it was a suicide and she was like if I kill myself I definitely did not kill myself mmm one of them deals mm-hmm Conveniently died it didn't one of the F scene F scene witnesses just kill herself. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah Yeah, you know where they recruited her where she got recruited at Mar-a-Largo She was a she was a locker room attendant at Mar-a-Largo. She was a she was a locker room attendant at Mar-a-Largo when she got recruited. I'm pretty sure I can we look that up I think Virginia Guthrie I do want to say that that's a crazy thing to say where like I think I'm right about
Starting point is 02:05:54 that. All of it is so spooky dude because you know that that's not the only one there's probably ones going on right now in China, Russia, it's just a thing that's happening all over the world when you have like a China Russia where it's like basically an emperor They can just run it. Yeah, that's a whole different thing right they don't need to blackmail. Yeah, they don't they don't need some American financier Yeah at Marlago damn choose a spot in the Donald Trump's she met Marlago, Galeen Maxwell Like how can you not believe in conspiracy? Yeah, it's crazy McCrone's married to a man a Man who bitch slapped him in a private jet. Oh my god really just did dude his whole life
Starting point is 02:06:39 He's been abused by that guy face palm in his face. I want to know I mean Take a fucking test It's not hard if I was her I would say listen you motherfuckers Okay, mm-hmm. Let's take a chromosome test. I am NOT a man. I'm just a pet I'm just a pet yeah, what what accusation thing hurts her the most the man with the pedophile Well the pedophiles on an accusation that just you are that that is fact that is exactly who you are But what was the law back then because someplace it had some wacky ass fucking I think that's probably why they say 16 because I think in Europe 16 is like a 15. Oh really yeah
Starting point is 02:07:19 Okay, so when I read this online is at 16, it's 14 because messages is 14. They're moving it They're moving them goalposts as we speak. Yeah, but I think it's like probably like 16 in the area, but either way, if you're a kid's teacher and you're sitting, like that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. He got to a prime minister with that level of just mindfuckery that's happening to them. Imagine if the roles were reversed and the president was a female and then the husband was a teacher
Starting point is 02:07:51 when the president was 15, when she was 15 and he was 40. Imagine. Crazy. Imagine that was in the United States. Imagine if it turned out that there's a female that's running for president and then we start going into the history and find out that she met her husband who's 80 when she was 15.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Yeah. And you'd be like, fucking yo. But man this in 1974 it was legal. Like fuck you. Fuck you man. That's crazy. We would never, but because it's a guy and an older lady, lady We've had it slide like he still gets to go to the meetings and shake everybody's hand
Starting point is 02:08:33 Yeah, you know he still gets to go to these fucking things where all the world leaders get together He's hanging out with them, like normal What's also funny to me is you're probably gonna get in more heat for calling her a man than she will from slapping the prime minister No, she's catching heat. Yeah, I think and also Candice I think Candice If she's right and it seems like they're not suing her So I think she might be right and they did offer her money. How much money do they offer her? Find out that how much money they offer Candice Owens to not tell these stories damn they offered her
Starting point is 02:09:07 They were like here I believe she's made some sort of an accusation that they offered her a sizeable amount of money to not do this Jesus yeah, which is the last person you want to tell anybody that you offered them money to not talk about something Yeah, she sees the long game. She's already willing to about something she ain't taking that money yeah she sees the long game she's already willing to tell those stories that comes from a meme and then it's not true oh damn it mm-hmm France offered a big Candace Owens a one-time payment of four million plus 50k per month for the rest of her life well that's just a meme yeah it was okay what's the site come from her what's the oh wins nor French president Emmanuel
Starting point is 02:09:42 Macron have referenced the claim on the respective websites or verified social media accounts And there is no other evidence to support the claim. Can we see what the name of the account is like? Yeah, there's nothing There's nothing I trust less than a place they call legitimate targets with a blue check We had to look that one up. Yeah You know, no. Yeah, what does the begin? This is like more that like probably bot-like behavior Oh targeting disinformation campaigns mm-hmm. You know throwing fuel on the fire of just getting you to believe like oh wow okay? We're just money Like think about how many once okay you make that post how many people like me read that think it's true
Starting point is 02:10:24 Ask Jamie to look it up it starts spreading Okay, you make that post. How many people like me read that, think it's true, ask Jamie to look it up, it starts spreading, people start following your account, how many new people do you get for your, how much engagement do you get? All that's valuable. You can keep doing that a lot and outrage people a lot. There's a bunch of those that come up,
Starting point is 02:10:39 you're like, fuck, is this true? And then you have to copy and paste it and put it in Google and search a little right I don't think this is true And now all someone has to do is take the snippet of you saying it before you like let's look that up 100% And then now it's like it's but all she has to do is take a chromosome test But it's also like but like also if like if you're a woman you're not gonna be like well fuck you I'm not gonna prove to you. I'm a woman. I would do it
Starting point is 02:11:04 But you say that as a man that's true Like I could totally do it if I if I was a woman and some of the they were accusing me of being a man I'd also kind of probably be like a little bump. They're a lot of money be like fuck you I don't got to prove anything to you you ever see her sit down She sits down like a dude You ever see her sit down? No. You ever see her sit down? I haven't seen her sit down. She sits down like a dude. You know how dudes sit down? Legs spread. Just plop down. All dick out.
Starting point is 02:11:34 A lot of weight. Because of the shape of our hips. When people talk about man spreading, yes, guys definitely do that. But women's legs go inward. Men's hips, the way the angle is, is different. They go outward. Like watch this person sit down. There's a video. Right? See that video? With the white shirt on the second one? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Let's see. Watch this. This is it. I've never seen a woman sit down like this. Go full screen. Is this where I went to as a teacher? Watch this. Watch how she sits down. Bro. That is very middle aged man. The way she sits. Bro. Bro. Watch this again. Watch this person sit down.
Starting point is 02:12:30 That's how a dude sits. the way the legs are spread apart. That's like a dude's hips There are the rest of one there is like Well, that's how liberal men sit That's what they do they throw their leg over That's what guys with very small legs. It's so funny It's Ari sits like that actually because you get them weird long legs, but like you can sit like that It's the way you sit down. It's the initial. It's an issue. Get down. It's the plop It's the plop and then the legs spread Women don't sit like that. When was the last time you saw a woman sit plop down with her legs spread now that they don't
Starting point is 02:13:03 They don't they don that. They don't. They just sit down, their legs normally naturally angle inward more. And they sit like this. And they sit with their legs together. You might have a similar pose, but you don't plop like that. That's a dude pose. That is. That is.
Starting point is 02:13:20 Or maybe that's how pedophile women sit. Maybe a woman wants to be a man. Right? There's also that. Yeah. Let's find one of those and see how they sit. There's also... Maybe a woman wants to be a man. Yeah. Right? There's also that. Let's find one of those and see how they sit. Any examples? That's... Yeah it's odd. The story's very odd. But it's also, it just shows you how fucking weird these people are. You're watching that person smack Macron right in the head and then walk down the stairs with him like, what? What could they have possibly been talking about yeah your dick is showing if he was a man they would fight there would be a square up maybe they will
Starting point is 02:13:55 when they get back home maybe that's the fun part maybe they're like fucking fuck you fuck you and then they get alone get Ahhhhhhh! Get after it. God damn. Yeah. That's so, that is just wild. That whole relationship is really wild. That has to be one of the more wild politician relationships. Wild. Out there.
Starting point is 02:14:15 If that was the head, the lead of a sitcom, you'd be like, what the fuck? That's why, what is going on? But the fact that it's the president of France. What? Yeah, getting slapped. There's no way you don't go well. He's not going he can't win re-election anymore But they're they if he that would have hurt his campaign so hard, bro. He's fixing a bomb somebody to cover this up Some rebels They might arm some rebels. Yeah, it's time to fuck up Algeria some more whatever You know like remember when Clinton when the Monica Lewinsky scandal came and other that bomb Kosovo
Starting point is 02:15:02 Do she like oh my god you guys don't even try it Trying to be slick. No, no, no get the attention off of it crazy. Yeah, oh man Yeah, the part of it when when Columbine happened. He must have been like thank God to get this off of more You remember Gary Condit? Yeah, well he murdered that lady right allegedly ledger. Okay, 9-eleven happened mmm Forgot about it. Yeah, he's like listen. We got bigger fish to fry Forgot about it. Yeah, he's like listen. We got bigger fish to fry Save save those I wonder how accurate house of cards is I wonder I wonder how accurate it I mean Outside of him physically killing the people which he does sometimes I would probably say it's like probably super active Probably pretty accurate. Yeah
Starting point is 02:15:43 It's it's a lot of dealings, a lot of like... Such a good show. Yeah it's so... So unfortunate. Well you know, life of a Tate's House, he's a... Spacey is always a great villain. He's always been a great villain. He might be the best movie villain. Oh he was so good in that one though too because he was so charming and weird, but it was also similar to like Tony Soprano like you wanted him to succeed Yeah, you want to be like, oh, can he get to president? Yeah, okay Does he have what it takes to like we were hoping he wins? Mm-hmm, right? Well, you're watching this show you like God hope he's president, right? Yeah, exactly. You were like
Starting point is 02:16:20 How does he do it right how does it do it because he's kind of in the He's like kind of sidelined and it's like how does he get back in? Remember he has that threesome. It was like a security guard. Is that what it was and his wife the three of them get down Yeah, I wonder I wonder how much that freak shit goes on behind closed doors because I definitely think when you're a bottled up person Like that like you have to be a Any sort of like professional person? politician publicly professional and ethical and you wear a suit and tie Didn't didn't Madison Cawthorn sort of get like thrown out of the Republican Party for like kind of being like hey they like Have a lot of orgies and shit. Really?
Starting point is 02:17:05 I'm pretty sure cause the- What year was this? This was, so, when does Cawthon get to like 2016? This is like pretty quickly, cause he was a rising star. In the- Really? Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure he said something- You're more in deep than me on politics.
Starting point is 02:17:19 You're in deep. This fella. Yeah, yeah, orgies and drugs, yeah, yeah. Whoa, ultra conservative group chair says he also wants to speak with the North Carolina Republican about his salacious claims concerning his colleagues. Mm-hmm. Okay. Let's see. Perry's, this is Cawthorn's claims.
Starting point is 02:17:38 What are all of his claims, though? So... Mm. What does he say? That's whether they reconsider Cawthorn's membership in the group. Yeah, he basically said that. He didn't make clear that he has evidence of taking part in group sex and drug use. Perry wouldn't say either way. We will discuss that when we get to it. Yeah, I think- When asked whether they would reconsider Cawthorn's membership in the group,
Starting point is 02:18:02 if he didn't make clear whom he has evidence. So Cawthorn was saying someone has evidence, that he has evidence of some people taking part of group sex. Not him, right? No, I think Cawthorn was saying some of the effect of to move up in this world or whatever, you have to take part in the drugs and the group sex and then them being like, well, show us the evidence and then Cawthorn being like, oh, I might have, I definitely. Okay. Yes He was invited he claims. He was invited to an orgy in Washington right, but no one was saying that he did
Starting point is 02:18:32 I thought you were saying that he was wrapped up in it So this is what killed him that he was saying this about people and he killed his career and they were like that Freedom caucus was like uh-uh no more Really? Yeah, cuz I remember he because I remember his own rally took him out. His own party took him out. Is that, Jamie? It says the sexual perversion that goes on in Washington, being kind of a young guy in Washington,
Starting point is 02:18:52 where the average age is probably 60 or 70, look at these people. A lot of them I've looked up to through my life. I always paid attention to politics. And all of a sudden, you get invited. We're going to have a sexual get together at one of our homes. You should come. What you just asked me to come to and then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy. Some of the people leading on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country and then you watch them do a key
Starting point is 02:19:20 bump of cocaine right in front of you. And it's like, this is wild. And then it says, uh, what? What does it say after that? Leave it back up. It's not clear to me whether Cawthorn is suggesting that members of Congress have invited him to orgies or just other people in Washington. Although after listening to his comments several times, it seems to be the former. Ditto his allegations of seeing people in Washington doing cocaine." Well, they sound like cocaine people. Clearly cocaine people.
Starting point is 02:19:58 If you want to be the president, you want to have all the power and you want to have all the money and you're deeply involved in corruption, that's cocaine people. Yeah. I mean, no one's shocked he just said the quiet part out loud yeah I think that's a but he was because he was supposed to be like the guy at one point I remember yeah he was like supposed to be the guy have your husband ever made any investments based on the cocaine people that was the first part of the problems he had he had some other I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:20:27 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:20:35 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:20:43 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. in college isn't he in a wheelchair? Yeah he will I don't know exactly when the wheelchair happened so it was either before or after but. I was because I was gonna say oh yeah and then he took like goofy vacation photos where I think he like dressed like during this game on a cruise he like dressed like a woman or something like that it was something yeah but all of this popped all this popped up after his it's it was lingerie. I don't know if it's just the orgy comment that led to everyone All right, he's also clearly looks like he's in a wheelchair here, too. He is in a wheelchair there
Starting point is 02:21:11 Yeah, yeah, he's probably having a good time with the ladies. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a little crazy Yeah, but all that came up after he made those comments It was very clear at the time like oh, they're like saying we're done with this guy We're gonna throw him to the wolves Yeah And they probably if you want to be that guy they have to have some stuff on you otherwise how can they count on you to play this game right right and they were like oh you think we don't have anything on you we'll just
Starting point is 02:21:34 show you dressing like a woman your constituents will dry up like that you sound like a conspiracy theorist so silly but boy did such a good job in the 60s after the Kennedy assassination of putting that word out there for fools and foolish people. They did such a great job. They really did. Well also they had a higher control of the media at the time, right? So you can, if there's only three places where you can get your news, you can be like, well anyone's outside of it is kind of crazy. Now you can get your news from anyone and be like, oh okay anyone's outside of it is kind of crazy. Now you can get your news from anyone and be like, oh, okay, there's something to this. Yeah, yeah. There's something to this.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Do you remember those commercials that happened during, right after 9-11? There was these anti-drug commercials where a guy was saying that if you smoke pot, you're supporting terrorism. He's like, why do you say that? Well, it's a fact. He just says it like he's eating a salad,
Starting point is 02:22:26 like a no-nonsense guy at a steakhouse, eating a salad because it's a fact. Like, it's condescending way. And you imagine yourself being confronted by such an accusation, like, oh my God, if I smoke pot, I'm supporting terrorism? You ever see that video? No.
Starting point is 02:22:40 It was a public service announcement video. It was like one of those things, it was a propaganda video that they put on television So while you're watching a television show this is like right after like the height of everybody freaking out about terrorism So they use this as an anti marijuana Drug money funds terrorism and terrorists like scroll back say that's from the beginning ploy Well, this drug money funds terror. It's a ploy manipulation
Starting point is 02:23:09 Ploy drug money funds terror. I mean, why should I believe that because it's a fact a fact I face you t-factor So you're saying that I should believe it because it's true. That's that's your argument. It is true Because it's true. That's your argument. It is true. Solid argument. I know, dude. Also, what kind of dumbass is that guy to be like, Oh, maybe he's right after you said that thing? Well, that guy sounds like your average bro. Right.
Starting point is 02:23:35 It's like at a bar, you know? This is what I heard. I heard the government's hiding the aliens. You know what I mean? That's like the average guy. And then he's a guy with glasses, who's eating his salads, not tolerating guy right and then he's a guy with glasses Zena's salads not tolerating your bullshit because it's a fact FACT right oh as long as you have all the data that you could show me oh no data
Starting point is 02:23:55 No, no data just accept it Please kind of right because if you do By heroin you are supporting the Taliban because we were guarding their poppy fields. Yeah. Yeah I think we talked about this earlier. I Think the Taliban is like a way to get out of it like burned all their poppy fields I think that I think that yeah I think that's why they're trying to get more tourists to come and he's like there's a bunch of like bro travel like Tick-tock. Yes. They're like, yeah me and the bros are going to Afghanistan and they're like chilling with the Taliban There's a bunch of like bro travel like TikToks.
Starting point is 02:24:25 They're like, yeah, me and the bros are going to Afghanistan. And they're like chilling with the Taliban. It's like these white guys from Britain. Well, you gotta be a bold person to take that. That's an early adopter. But also if you're from England, you're kind of already getting used to being around Muslim extremists.
Starting point is 02:24:42 So I think it's nice Islam. More of a lateral move. I wish that something, at least, like, I could be looking this, I could be wrong about this, but like, I wish that was something that was a little more vocal and like sort of, and I'm not like a very big Muslim, I'm not like really that practicing or that religious, but these sort of like the sort of that the brand of Islam that's coming to Europe right now is like really scary for me. Like I don't I don't want that like that's not There's a lot of like Western Muslims that like probably wouldn't vibe with what's going on over there mmm, and it's it's just this very interesting thing of like How do we curb that in our
Starting point is 02:25:29 community of being like, hey, we shouldn't accept this. Like we shouldn't, I remember when the Charlie Hebdo attacks happened, a lot of people would be like, damn, that's what happens when you draw Mohammed or whatever. It's like, that shouldn't be our reaction to this. It should be like, live and let live. It's like, that's what I admire about the Christians here is that you can make fun of Jesus, no one's going to kill you. Like that, Right. It should be like live and let live. It's like that's what I admire about the Christians years That you can make fun of Jesus. No one's gonna kill you. Right. Like that that there's sort of like this sort of Westernization that kind of needs to happen that it doesn't look like it's happening over there in a way That's kind of happening here. Look what's going on in Toronto where Ontario made it legal to have polygamy
Starting point is 02:26:00 Right. Yeah, that's why. Right. It's like dudes want multiple wives. Come on, it's in the Quran. You know it is, but Yeah, you're gonna have multiple you got to treat them all equally, which is what they totally do It's a great way to keep people recruited. Mmm. You know, yeah You know imagine if the Christian said listen, we're open to new ideas. I think maybe the Mormons had a point Because the Mormons that's how they got it right right the whole reason why they went to Mexico It was because the United States said no to polygamy Right, you know, that's the whole thing about what's his face from Massachusetts
Starting point is 02:26:37 That's right. Mitt Romney Mitt Romney's dad was actually born in Mexico Really? Yeah, their family came from this these giant colonies of Mormons that live in Mexico and duke it out with the cartels. Never seen that? No. Dude, there was a shootout. Mormons versus the cartels? Yes. Great movie title. One of, there was a big problem a few years back because a few people, I think a woman and a child and a couple of people got murdered by the cartels and it became like a giant issue. So they set these compounds up in like the 1800s whenever the Mormons were not allowed to be poly polygamous here in America. So they just said, well, who cares back then there was no cars. Mexico is just as good as living in America, right? This will go over there right, but then you know America fucking blossom the Mexico kind of stayed
Starting point is 02:27:29 You know and now you're like hey you got a cartel problem now So they they're armed damn are they still there? Yeah, there's two. I think there's two large groups of Mormons that live in like these fenced off communities. It's like really kind of sketchy. That's kind of they have compounds Yeah, well the Mormons cuz I think cuz they're young too. So I have to wait safety I'll say this I remember the first time I went to Salt Lake City in 2019 and we were walking around and we were near the Mormon temple and the most beautiful women came up to us and be like oh why don't you and I was like that's how they get you dude. Dude Salt Lake City is like it's just tens marrying twos and that's how you get the Mormon guys. Oh dude I was like in that split second I was like I'm going to give them a lot right now.
Starting point is 02:28:22 In that split second I was like, I'm going to give them a lot right now I remember this beautiful woman from Colombia like they went and they got converted on a mission trip and now they're here and like Look at this exotic women that's available to you if you're a Mormon and you can marry one like tomorrow Wow, you can marry one because they all get married young and quick because the whole point is to have babies So I've always told you Mormons know how to recruit they can get you they throw the pussy your way They're also the nicest people like I'm very rarely meet a mean Mormon So I've always told you Mormons know how to recruit. They can get you. They throw the pussy your way. They're also the nicest people. Like you very rarely meet a mean Mormon. Well it's like, you know, the Book of Mormon comes out and what do they do? Do they get mad? Do they fucking kill people? No, they stand outside and hand people pamphlets about Mormonism.
Starting point is 02:29:00 This whole play talking about how Mormonism is totally bullshit. They're like, we might be able to get somebody. Yeah, they actually took out a full-page ad in the playbook. Right, exactly. Exactly. That's a great way to deal with criticism of your religion. I think, from my perspective on Islam, it needs to handle that better. It just doesn't handle that well at all. I mean, I think Salman Rushdie was stabbed by a guy who was born and raised in New Jersey. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:25 That's crazy. He should be safe here. Right. Yeah, and also I'm mad at the Fahua because it made me read that terrible book. Yeah! Was it a bad book? It wasn't that good! I would have not have read it if there wasn't anything around it. Probably sold a lot more copies because of that. Probably made that dude rich as fuck. Oh, yeah, yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 02:29:44 It's like one of those, like I get it if you like arts fuck. Oh yeah yeah crazy it's like one of the it's like I get it if you like like artsy like you know it's like a novel for writers almost that's how I felt reading it. Oh yeah yeah it's like it I didn't like it but I only read it because of everything around it. Did you see American Primeval? No. It's great but it talks about Brigham Young and the Mormons establishing themselves in Utah and Gangster shit like murders. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like you don't realize like what a gangster Brigham Young was you're like, holy shit Is this all accurate and it's accurate Peter Berg made it. It's really good. Yeah I mean imagine wild show dude imagine leading a people
Starting point is 02:30:22 Against the American government and sending up setting up your own place You have to be a bad motherfucker to do that and then the wildest ones went to Mexico. Yeah, fuck it Flee the whole country. Yeah Yeah, the Mormons really really like they fought to survive, but it's what we were talking about earlier It's like human beings have a bunch of different ways where they can adapt to whatever the group is doing There's a bunch of where like so we're really really malleable, you know, we're easily influenced We can you know, we're we adjust to whatever the environment is we adapt, you know And then if you're a Mormon woman, you're like, I guess I'm sharing this motherfucker with eight other ladies, right?
Starting point is 02:31:04 It's what you do do you're out there washing You probably convince yourself you're happy about it. You're probably not like that you're probably like and we're doing this for God This is what God wants. I remember y'all get our own planet. We were in a rest stop once Ari and I were on a road doing stand-up and We pulled into this place to get gas and we were walking around this like rest stop one of them little supermarket things and these ladies came in I think there were Mennonites and R was like what group are you in? What do you guys do? What's this all about? And they like did not know how to talk to him they look so awkward. Oh yeah cuz they're only allowed to talk to the one man
Starting point is 02:31:42 in their life. Yeah pretty sure he was stoned Yeah, you definitely stoned, but it was really funny. I was like well. What do you guys do? What's going on here? But I was like wow these people are living I mean this is we're dealing with like you know 2005 or some shit like that you're dealing with these people that are they're from another time It's another time period like they're dressed like they they're literally like pioneers They look like colonists like they have like old timey 1800s clothes on it's you ever see like how many nights. Oh, yeah, yeah, we're yeah Yeah, yeah a gas station. You know in front of fucking Popeyes chicken
Starting point is 02:32:23 This is so weird And there's a group of them's chicken. We're like, this is so weird. And there's a group of them out there. It's like some fucking shack, some house, some compound. I believe this was, I think we were in Massachusetts when this happened, or maybe New Hampshire. Cause I know they're out here. Isn't the Mennonite population where the measles is in Texas?
Starting point is 02:32:39 Like, do you know how this is? I think it's the Mennonites. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah, that's like that's like the overwhelming majority of the people like cuz they cuz they run with the measles is like Rampant in Texas or they were running with that for a while and it's like it's basically in this one community from what I remember Yeah, interesting. It's just weird when they can get people to dress up, you know, you know, like when you like wow
Starting point is 02:33:01 Wow country everybody's wearing the robes, but that's how you know who's bought in right so it's like okay These are these are the people that I can control yeah, put that rainbow t-shirt on you're in a group. Yeah Hang your flag yeah Put the pronouns in the bio. Where's your black lives matter sign? It's like Human beings just want to become a part of a group man. Yeah, you want it's like it's like finding your community is like So huge huge and it's like I think a big issue is when you find it online Because then it becomes like this weird parasocial like or yeah, and it's like you got to find your like Group like you're I mean that's why I like the good part about religion that
Starting point is 02:33:45 I really like is like if it's done right it's like a loving community it's like a yeah like you know I mean like it's people it's a support system it's like yes very friendly yes and it's a warm environment everybody goes there with the same purpose mm-hmm this Rebecca Lamar lady that was that I told you was a the expert in mind control one of the things she talked about the dangers of eco chambers you get in these echo chambers online and everybody says the same thing, thinks the same thing, and then all of a sudden you're locked into this way of thinking. It's online, really dangerous, where people just sort of have everyone sort of reinforcing
Starting point is 02:34:19 all these ideas, you never get any outside information, all that exists in this echo chamber. And then that's how you information, all exists in this echo chamber. And then that's how you become, your politics become your personality. Yep, your whole life. Yeah, and it's such a crazy thing. It's so new, cause I wasn't aware in 1996, but I will very confidently say people weren't like,
Starting point is 02:34:40 you either like Bob Dole or you get the fuck out of my house. No, dude, it was no big deal. When I was a kid, when politics was on, just on television and in the newspapers, nobody gave a fuck who you supported. They didn't care. Maybe they thought you were an idiot because you're gonna vote for that guy.
Starting point is 02:34:59 Oh, that guy's a moron, you're crazy. But there was no, we couldn't talk at the dinner table We couldn't you know it became everything Every part of your identity right fight against this we are fighting against fascism by using fascism Stop the election we're gonna remove people from social media We're gonna shut down these voices, and then we'll give you the candidate to vote for yes Yeah, preserve democracy. Yeah, but it is like because it's so annoying like especially you know you could I I'm an Austin comic now and people will be like oh so you do comedy So you must be like an alt right wing comic because it's like no
Starting point is 02:35:40 I just do comedy like you know like there's a lot, there's a lot of stage time in the city, and that's sort of the whole point of the whole exercise, is to get up on stage and- Bro, how many times do we like duke it out with Ron White in the green room over politics? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the most friendly, hilarious way. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:35:57 Tony and I are roasting him. Well, you know what's funny is that ironically, people online, for whatever reason, Ron White's face is used a lot to come up on conservative memes. Well, because conservatives love him. I know, Ron White's face is used a lot to come up on conservative memes. Well, because conservatives love him. I know, and it's so funny to me every time.
Starting point is 02:36:10 Every time, you're like, wow, y'all really think Ron White's just like deep red conservative? That's crazy. It's so funny, because you get to know him. He's the most liberal amongst us. Yeah, he's the most liberal guy in the green room. He's first, and then Brian Simpson's too. Yeah. But Brian Simpson, it makes sense to me because, you know, used a lot of social services, you
Starting point is 02:36:30 know, had like a rough stretch as a child. That's me too. That's like not as bad as him, but the same kind of reasoning for like social safety nets are important. They keep people fed, you know? Yeah. It's like that's super important, man. You know, like some-
Starting point is 02:36:44 People give people access to medicine. That's very important. Yeah. Sometimes people are that's super important man. You know, give people access to medicine That's very important. Sometimes people are poor and sometimes people get sick when they're poor And the fact that shit could bankrupt you for your whole life If you break a leg you're bankrupt for your whole life. That could bankrupt you if you're middle-class. Fuck poor. Yes The price of the price of medicine in like in this country is absolute insanity. Right. Yeah. And the fact that people don't agree on that. Or the fucking education thing that we bring up ad nauseam. The fact that that's the only loans you can never get out of with bankruptcy. That's crazy. And you get them when you're 18? Are you out of your fucking mind? That's so predatory. predatory super predatory. Yeah, take a kid and give him a credit card with a 39% interest rate like
Starting point is 02:37:32 And then and then you told them like you go to college like it's gonna be better for you on the other end And it's like that's not true at all. No, not true Yeah, especially if you like got it just a degree and like something that doesn't pay lucratively I remember when I first started becoming successful as a comedian where I was actually making a living as a comedian And I had friends that did the whole college thing and got jobs and they were fucking miserable Because we're both in our 20s and they were out there in the workforce just fucking tired all the time and they were upset They're upset that I didn't do that and yet I'm making money. I'm traveling around. I'm having a good time hanging out my friends I've got no one telling me what to do write my own material Book my own flights. No boss. Yeah, and you could see like fuck you want this is not you're supposed to be a loser
Starting point is 02:38:23 Mm-hmm. I was, I did the right thing. Dude, you ever, have you ever seen the Jim Carrey commencement speech? Or like graduation speech he gave at a college? No. Dude, I saw this, so I started, I started comedy in my third year of college. So my fourth year I'm like weighing out whether, what do I want to do with my life? Do I want to go into, higher education, grad school, med school, whatever, or do I want to do this thing that I think I love?
Starting point is 02:38:48 And my friend showed me this speech, because he knew I was going through this, and he was like, listen to this. Is Jim Carrey talking about how you can fail at what's safe? Mm, that's true too. Like the route you're supposed to take doesn't mean it's going to lead to success. So if you're supposed to take doesn't mean it's gonna lead to success. So if you're gonna fail anyway, might as well just fail at what you wanna do.
Starting point is 02:39:10 Cuz at least you will have done that. Yeah. And then if you fail the safe way, then you will always be like, fuck I had this other thing I could have done. Yeah. And where could that have led me? Yeah. Yeah. And now, you know.
Starting point is 02:39:24 So true. But, however, the problem with that is like, you've met open micers that are out of their fucking mind. And they're not going, it's not going to happen. Right. No one wants to listen to you say anything, ever. Right.
Starting point is 02:39:36 You shut the fuck up. Like, this ain't working. But, Yeah, well, that's why... I saw that Jim Carrey speech and I knew I just had to stay on the path. Yeah. You got any advice for me, Asan? Well, that's the that's you can't get that but that's the Mitzi quote
Starting point is 02:39:49 It's a sin to encourage mediocre talent. You can't be like no keep going you got a the nicest way to be like hey There's other stuff. Well, that's the weird one when people like that give they want to ask advice. What do you think I should do? Like what? What I really think you should do or what do you want me to say? What do you want I should do? Like what? What I really think you should do or what do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? Yeah, I'm gonna give you the secret word Yeah, oh, this is how you have talent. This is how you make it. This is how you write a joke Yeah, this is what you gotta do. I'll hold your hand Yeah, you know what really happens with some guys you get a hot girlfriend
Starting point is 02:40:21 That is a comic and then you're a really good comic and she's terrible And so you start writing her act I've seen that happen a few times One of it happens the other way you got a really good female comic and she starts dating some guy who sucks She goes listen if you're gonna date me let me help you with your fucking material whoo I don't know female comics date down like that very Hypergamy yeah, cuz if you're if you're a great female comic, like the level of guy that's available to you is like... Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, yeah. It's like, what are you doing with an open mic'er?
Starting point is 02:40:56 Right, right. But if you're like a headliner who does theaters, you could totally have an open mic'er as a girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, and that's totally like that's totally hot Yeah, that's totally cool. Yeah. Yeah, but if like Who's doing theaters right now? It's like if Ali Wong or whatever right started dating an open mic and be like yo what happened right? Something went wrong Her to date an open mic coming started dating an open mic or like what are you doing crazy? Yeah, show me what pills you're on. Yeah
Starting point is 02:41:28 away from There would be an intervention group of dudes being like This is Mike he's a comedian to Everybody's built good You know, yeah big big bulges pants. Yeah sits down like McCrone. No Being a female comic is infinitely harder Because right away people don't want to hear you talk about politics don't want to hear your opinions on things
Starting point is 02:42:02 Right away, people don't want to hear you talk about politics, don't want to hear your opinions on things, and you know, you've got to, like, there's, like, Christina pulls it off, but like, it's hard to be pretty on stage. Right. You know? Right. Most of the time you have to hide your sex appeal. Right. I was talking to Kim Kongden about that, and she was like, I wear baggy clothes on stage.
Starting point is 02:42:21 Sam Lopez, same thing. She wears baggy clothes on stage. I mean, same thing. She wears baggy clothes on stage. I mean, she couldn't hide being pregnant, but that's... Well, they had their baby. They had their baby. Derek's a daddy, isn't that amazing? Yeah, a little. That's so cool.
Starting point is 02:42:33 Crazy, crazy. He's gonna light a fire in Durham, guaranteed. He's gonna work so much harder now. He's gonna be excited about it. And I'll have so much material too, because it's just the whole experience of children. It's like mind blowing. Yeah, well, told him it's like crazy like out of all the things you've accomplished you've finally done the thing you were supposed
Starting point is 02:42:49 to do. Right, why you put here on earth. But yeah yeah you had a kid and that's like the most important thing you like all the arenas that you've done that's cool but like all good but this is what it is. Yeah I know the arenas is just like a little dance that we do together We're really procreating and then on top of that. We're making AI and it's alive now Job is almost done. Yeah, you got in Derek probably got in one of the last babies He's yeah, one of the last people that need to have a kid yeah It's kind of fucked but Listen, that's how the thing goes
Starting point is 02:43:26 You know Australia Pythagoras didn't get to stay around right Eventually, sorry and yeah, sorry you're not good enough. You can't even code Right and dumbass with your stone tools shut the fuck up. Yeah, we have planes now You're not we can't have you anymore. Yeah, and you Australia Pythagoras is like, bro, your days are numbered. There's a homo sapien coming. It's smart, does calculus. Not even homo sapien. There was like other stuff before. A homo sapien to an australopithecus is like an alien.
Starting point is 02:43:59 Right, right, right. Many stages. It's crazy we're the same species kind of. It's so nuts, man. It's also nuts that we would think that it would end with us. Yeah, but we're the perfect we got it It's done. It's done. No, we're terrible. We have nuclear bombs. We're in the middle of fucking 30 wars right now What are you talking about? We're awful, right? We're full of shit We got the fucking all this congressional bullshit that we were just talking about with the insider trading all the lies All the different things that have gotten us in these different wars. Why would you want to stay this? Well, this is the devil you know versus the devil you don't like this is like we can handle this yeah
Starting point is 02:44:36 Well, it's not us. Well. Yeah, you're not gonna be around there's gonna be a new thing just like dinosaurs don't exist anymore Mm-hmm. There's gonna be a new thing. Yeah, oh, it's gonna. It's gonna be cool It's gonna start eventually these way modes are gonna start slowly taking people out Slowly gonna start taking people out. They all you have to do is just keep the door shut forever until you starve to death Yeah, it consume you do you ever see that DARPA robot that they built they built a DARPA robot called the eater robot EATR forget what it stands for, but it's fueled by biological material. Dude. Sometimes I feel like scientists don't watch any movie.
Starting point is 02:45:15 Or they watch them all. Oh, they watch them all and are like, I wanna do that. Listen, what do we do? What are we doing here? We're making fucking weapons, alright? What's the best way to fuel these things? Is it's solar should we get out there and fill their tank up with gas? Or let them eat bodies, and I think it was any kind of biological material So it could be plants could be just plants it could just be just ground squirrels. Yeah, you see ground squirrels Yeah, maybe these fucking dead bodies on the battlefield and just keep going right if you're a robot an autonomous robot that exists on biological materials and you also kill people you got plenty of fuel
Starting point is 02:45:50 right you just eat a couple of those people you keep going if they really design artificially intelligent robots that kill people and eat them because that's the way to really do if you want to do battle efficiently well what fuel would be the most efficient fuel to use well what is it was the fuel that you're making with your task well that fuel would be bodies well when you run out of bodies is your task done yeah so then you just shut off because you're out of fuel so you run out of gas when you've eaten everybody on earth it It's the perfect design It's that perfect killing machine if you wanted to extinguish human life on earth. That's what you do you'd have autonomous
Starting point is 02:46:32 Intelligence artificial intelligence that absolutely knows where everyone is at any given time because everybody has a digital signature and everyone's Connected to devices and all you do is kill and eat people and just send them loose and they would be indestructible and they would find you in buildings they would fucking go upstairs to your apartment find you and eat you and when they're done eating everybody on the planet they just shut off because they don't have any more fuel damn bro damn that's what you have to do damn a robot that eats people damn how far how much time do you think we have left I? Don't think we have a hundred years you don't think we have a hundred years no I don't think we have a hundred years either unless this is the other possibility like the AI just leaves
Starting point is 02:47:16 No, I'm totally talking about my ass. There's a couple options mm-hmm one of the big options is we integrate So instead of letting it eat us what we do is become one with it. So instead of just being a territorial ape with thermonuclear weapons and a concealed carry permit, instead of being that, what we are is connected through Neuralink or something like that or the next 30 versions of it from now. But just think about how quick cell phones changed everything and how much they've advanced since, what was the iPhone, 2007? I was in eighth grade, so it was 2006.
Starting point is 02:47:57 2006? OK. So that's not that long ago. No. That's 20 years. 20 years. 20 years. In 20 years, it's gone from being this little shitty clunky thing with a bad camera. Right. It didn't even have a camera at first, did it?
Starting point is 02:48:15 Did it? I don't think it had a camera at first. Was it the first iPhone to have a camera? Yeah. I think it did. I think it did. I think it wasn't on the internet though. What?
Starting point is 02:48:24 That was part of the deal. Yeah. But it wasn't on the internet, right right what you mean was it you couldn't get on the internet with it, right? Yeah, YouTube was one of the first apps built into it. That's why I kind of grew so far But could you get online like and read like a website on it the first one? Yeah, really? Yeah, okay, but the internet was like super slow right? What was the the G's back then how many G's was it the first G like the second or third iPhone was the iPhone 3G and that was like the big right that's right so the 3G one was the first one where it actually became feasible that you would use it as a web browser like right now it's instantaneous right so now instead of taking forever to download a song or a movie now with the bandwidth
Starting point is 02:49:05 speeds you have, you get a new phone, a new Android phone or a new iPhone, you're getting instantaneous everything. It's shocking how good it is. The new, all these new Samsung phones, like the Galaxy that Brian Simpson uses that has this Google Gemini assistant. He talked to it the other day and he said you know send me this that that put it on my calendar and then text it to a friend of mine and it just said okay and it just did it. It did all those things. What application would you like me to use? Google
Starting point is 02:49:41 Tasks. It just does this for him and it all automates just for a prompt So he talks to his phone his phones like his assistant Tell him you know set that shit on my calendar put it in my schedule Send me a text message when it's come time put an alert so I know when it's coming up. Okay. It just does it all That's wild. I've never 20 years. I've never used Siri So I'm not serious all the time and then Siri doesn't know what the fuck is going on So Siri's always like would you like to use chat GPT? I'm like bitch Why am I asking why I'm asking you if you got to keep going to chat GPT should I replace you?
Starting point is 02:50:15 Gemini seems to have the answers Gemini is way better than Siri. It's way better. Well cuz it feels like and I know nothing about how AI works But it feels like cuz Siri was already there. It's like trying to implement AI to an interface That's kind of old the Google interface With AI in the phones and all the Google ecosystem is way better. It's just it's way more effective It's quicker. It gets it. It'll it'll follow a chain of questions like you can ask another question How should I do that? What should I do with it? And it follows follow a chain of questions like you can ask it another question. How should I do that? What should I do with it and it follows what you're saying? Okay?
Starting point is 02:50:48 It's just a better design and it's integrated with so like Siri has to ask chat GPT and like would you like to use chat GPT? But bitch, what do you think? Yes, if you don't have the answer go to chat GPT Get me the fucking answer. Whereas the Google cuts that step out. It gives you the answer immediately It's just better at it integrates with Gmail it's just a better system but they're working on it you know it's like all these things are getting better you know like all the AI is getting better there's so much but I mean just the video we watched like the AI capability six months ago yeah that video get out of here get out of here get out of here get out and and now you
Starting point is 02:51:23 see it on like I'll see it online or like reddit or Facebook or you'll see it where like people like oh you're falling for this AI thing and it and it took me a second to realize like oh it's AI yeah oh yeah a lot of those I posted one of a butterfly no mantis mm-hmm like some crazy mantis that looks like a lotus flower it's like oh that looks dope and like somebody posted it on Instagram so I just put it in my stories just cuz I thought it looked dope right even if it's fake still dope And then someone said hey, but why does he have five fingers and a thumb? I was like Was it you Jamie did you notice it yeah, Jamie does that's so funny
Starting point is 02:51:57 He's always like ahead of the curve with that shit though because he's super skeptical and he does too much research into conspiracies Yeah, well you have to be you have to be super skeptical about anything you see now He goes all roads lead to Ohio everybody is set to sending me bullshit all day after fucking look through it Oh, yeah Oh, yeah Like this is like talk about this on the show and it's just some guy with three heads or whatever well it's a lot of people that believe things and the thing is like a
Starting point is 02:52:20 Lot of this stuff that you're fed that's fake You're fed by people who want you to repeat it because they're trying to muddy the waters of reality. Right. Which is a great strategy. Well, if you say it enough, it can be real. There's a certain truth to it, right? There's that. But there's also, say something that is real and attach a bunch of really goofy shit to it so that it's not real anymore.
Starting point is 02:52:41 Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. So it'd make you be like, well, if everything else around it is fake, this has to be fake. Right. You know, you connect it to a Nazi apologist or something. Right. Right. Oh, this is nonsense. Or like the UA, all this UFO stuff. Like, there's so much of that stuff that seems like so hokey, you don't even want to repeat it, and it's, but yet it's connected to things like
Starting point is 02:53:03 gravity propulsion drives, which were theorized about in the 1950s. And research was done on them. And it seems like maybe some groundbreaking advancements were kind of concealed from the public. But then it's like, I was abducted and they took all of my sperm. And you know what I mean? It's like all these people that are connected to it
Starting point is 02:53:21 that are goofy, you wonder how much of that goofy shit is on purpose to make the whole thing seem stupid? Because what they're really trying to do is obscure something. Mmm... okay, I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'd say it's a bit hiding it in plain sight. Right. Just like, we never hid it from you, you just thought it wasn't real, cause this guy was talking about getting jerked off by aliens. Just connect it to Scientology, or fuckingology Whatever just throw some nonsense that way flat earth
Starting point is 02:53:48 Whatever you know just find some reason why it's kooky put connected to like some fucking person channels You know I mean right make it stupid right so you got stupid. That's a bunch of stupid shit Connection Scientology right connect to something that you don't want to talk about you know Bigfoot Oh Bigfoot you know I mean it's like those those kind of strategies for Taking real information and muddy it up with a bunch of nutty shit And then send the Patriot front to go fucking protest for it like oh right right Are those the feds that's what people say. And then there's like a thing online now, The Patriot Front was all feds, how come they're back?
Starting point is 02:54:28 Like all of a sudden they re-emerged, they took a hiatus, and they're back with Season 3! These guys are, they still wear the bandanas, they're still marching down the street covering their face, they still wear uniforms, like see? They're not even feds! There's no way they could be feds, I mean that,
Starting point is 02:54:44 that's over Right, right, right, right. There's no way like it's not like cash Mattel and damn Boncino completely did a 180 as soon as they got into office. I mean this is a different federal government now, right? Yeah, this is now it's truth truth social. I Feel like if yeah, I think things that people that people forget is that they definitely play both sides. Yeah. Like, I think, because they were heavily involved in January 6th, and I think they were heavily involved in those BLM riots. It's like, oh my god, the feds just, they want chaos for whatever reason. For more control, I guess.
Starting point is 02:55:18 They want that, and they want us at each other's throats. Right. Right. They want people. They want the MAGA people fighting with the liberals they want that yes And they fuel it I see a lot of those pro MAGA posts You know like MAGA mom 2000 and like a preeling you know I mean it's like how many these people are real people Yeah, ridiculous shit. That's like. I hope you're not a real person. I hope your identity isn't MAGA first mom second identity isn't MAGA first mom second yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I really hope you're not a real person
Starting point is 02:55:47 it's just I think you know whatever the number is whether it's 50% like it's so hard to know what's real and what's not I think the best strategy for me at least the best strategy is just tune the fuck out yeah yeah that's why I like YouTube yeah that's I go on YouTube I'm watching stuff about like fucking ancient civilizations
Starting point is 02:56:07 Car videos I'm watching your guy do puzzles like this is like a way better watching guys cook Mmm. I think it's called Bon Appetit. I forget what it is. I was watching a bunch of videos on Various restaurants like how they set up. I love it, man. I don't know why. I love watching people do something that they're really passionate about. And when you watch a video about like a really great restaurant where they're talking about how they picked the beef and oh, that's who it was. It was, you know that guy Guga Foods? Do you know who that guy is? No. Amazing YouTube channel. He's like the steak guy He's like he's obsessed with steak and cooking different kinds of steak
Starting point is 02:56:47 He went to osso buco in Miami, which is like one of the supposedly one of the best restaurants in the country I haven't been but this place osso buco in Miami. They they I think they were talking about how they had a two-year dry aged steak Dry age it for two years or they didn't cut that one up they made another one for him. But you're watching this chef and he's got this like crazy live hardwood fire grill set up and he's talking about all the he's cooking at these different temperatures and he's got the peppers over here and he's cooking pineapples over fire over here he's gonna splice that up and put it in
Starting point is 02:57:24 this you watch it's so exciting and he's so passionateapples over fire over here. He's going to splice that up and put it in this. And you watch it. Oh, it's so exciting. And he's so passionate about ways making the meat and how they're using this like herb brush to put butter all over. You're like, oh my God, it looks so good. Yeah, it looks so good. And it's like, I'm not getting angry. I'm not getting out. No, I am.
Starting point is 02:57:43 That's it. This is the guy. So this is I found the greatest restaurant on Earth. It says I'm not getting out right now. I am that's it. This is the guy So this is I found the greatest restaurant on earth. It says I'm speechless so that disgusting rotten mummy dick is That's a two-year dry-aged steak But what that is is the mold from that helps to dry age all the other beef So he calls it like the mother that's why he's not cutting into it yet. See, right there he calls it the mother. And so then, so this guy takes him like a regular, like a two month dry age, oh 22 days. Okay. So it's like, there used to be a place called APL that was in
Starting point is 02:58:18 LA and they went under during the pandemic. But Adam Perry was the the chef and he was really into dry aging and he had some year one year dry aged meat and he served it to us we're like whoa this is wild right weird taste man because it's essentially like being eaten by parasites it's like you know mold is eating it should go back to those videos of that guy just cooking the same you just had up Look how fucking good this oh my god. I was cooking the steak though like look at this and they're making osa But so go before that you'll see the steak, so he's throwing this so he's got the fires out This is this is also buko, so he's pulling it off the bone Go go back a little earlier though when you watch them cook it because this is what what I like is watching it when it
Starting point is 02:59:05 hits the grill There's nothing like steak cooking over live wood like burning hardwood and this guy is just a master at it and they takes it out and he slices it up and puts butter all over you like Damn and this see me. I'm not mad. No, no one's outraged. I'm not getting politically involved slices it up and puts herb butter all over you're like HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU This guy named Francis. Look at that. Oh, that's nice Look at the look at it. Oh This is my genuine happiness. Yeah, look at his face. That's a real you can't fake that kind of smile He's gonna slice it up. Oh, baby, baby, baby So good, dude, so I watch this guy on Instagram. His name is Francis. He lives in England
Starting point is 03:00:01 He's like he like loves trains trains trains and every time he sees a train he gets super happy And he tells you everything about the train like it's route and it's history and you get excited I love how much he's into it. Yeah, I love it makes me it makes me happy every time He's on my yes this guy dude this guy rules This guy fucking rules dog. Wow. Let me hear him. Let me hear him. A little bed win where the Kennet and Avon canal runs rather prettily alongside the Barks and Hants line here. And it's at this road bridge that I'm about to see Britannia. Oh my god, it's a 59 Okay, stop right here stop right here imagine how quickly one of those
Starting point is 03:01:01 Colombian Mormons could get him who you, you know what's funny? He showed his girlfriend before. She's a dime, dude. Damn, of course she is. Maybe she's into trains too, that's the key. Maybe, but he's a guy who's good at what he does, is passionate about it, and is happy with it.
Starting point is 03:01:18 That's attractive to women. Oh yeah, people love when people are really into something. But look, every video, just a a massive smile just a train. Yeah It's like it's like a little hit of happiness this guy. Yeah, look at him. Yeah, man Like whatever it is whether it's automobiles, you know, whatever it is I love watching auto auto reviews even cars that I'm never gonna buy right? I like watching like what do you think about that car? Right? Yeah, they go over the way the mechanics work and how it's designed and Yeah, when people are into what it's making furniture. It's just this whatever you're creating is
Starting point is 03:01:52 Yeah, if it's even if it's just train watching. Yeah, you're into it. It's like it's like awesome for other people super contagious This guy this month. He went pretty viral. He quit his job Cashing his 401k took his cat got a sailboat went to Hawaii. Whoa, just got there yesterday He went from like, you know 10,000 people following to 1.6 million. Whoa sailing underscore with underscore Phoenix on Instagram just doing like daily updates of like, yep. This is me. Here's my cat. Here's my boat today suck I'm just doing like daily updates of like yep. This is me. Here's my cat. Here's my boat. They suck Yeah, we like because everybody has that dream right yeah, just check out a society man live on a mountain that's mine Well, they didn't film it all
Starting point is 03:02:35 What's his Instagram again? Is the cat his name is Oliver Sound with Phoenix came up right away on Instagram or on YouTube brother. Mm-hmm. Bam subscribe. Damn. That's nice Yeah, but it's driving you know what I find interesting with like the social media and now with the what I talked about earlier with the with the streaming that the Livestream people do is you remember? Oh my god that Jim Carrey movie Truman show yeah, but it was like where it was like oh my god Look at this guy He's been tricked and we're watching everything he's doing and now fast forward like 30 years and like people are actively trying to become
Starting point is 03:03:11 Truman yeah, it's like a very like I wonder if the guy who wrote that movie thought of that as a possibility of fun Remember the McConaughey one there was a McConaughey film TV ed TV Same thing following a guy around his whole life and eventually he's like the end He's like I can't do this anymore, right? I'm gonna be normal was it a was it a choice that he made or was it put up on him in that movie? I don't remember did he win something He win a contest or something maybe think of someone that did just do this this guy called the outdoor boys channel Oh, yeah, I watched that guy. Yeah, he quit he quits too much to my family. Yeah, he's really cool
Starting point is 03:03:46 I like this shows he would like go places and camp and cook his own food and shit There's a bunch of those guys that are fall fall this one guy last night. He's in it was like 10 degrees below zero He's testing out the world's warmest sleeping bag So he's got like a fire and that's dope He treks out there by himself on snow shoes with a fucking sled behind him filled with his stuff. Damn. But it's interesting man. It's fascinating. Mm-hmm. People just want to... people are so... We'll watch people live life. Watch someone do something purposeful.
Starting point is 03:04:20 Like when you're out in the woods and you make your own fire and you have the warmer sleeping bag, you have to Have that to stay alive, right? And that's why it's exciting to us because everything else has no consequences Our day is just like sure stay awake and keep watching YouTube or should I go to bed? She probably go to bed now. I'll give me one more hour one more hour of watching bullshit Wasting your time. Yeah, and this guy's out there in the woods doing something below zero in this sleeping bag all I could see out of us like Stoked the fire stay warm stay alive
Starting point is 03:04:53 That stuff gives me anxiety I can't watch that me too But it's also exciting like you know you want to watch him do it and that outdoor boys guy was one of those guys Mm-hmm, and you know I think just got too popular. Yeah, I mean it was front page news that he quit. A YouTuber quit and it was news. He's cool though. He seems like a real sweet guy. Like a real nice guy. Like everything about his show.
Starting point is 03:05:14 And it's interesting. Well yeah, it's like a lot of these people, these are people you want to root for. Yeah. The sailboat guy, the train guy, him. It's like I want these people to succeed. Also, this is like low production value, doing it on his own, self-filming. Yeah, it's exciting. want these people to succeed it's also this is like low production value doing it on his own
Starting point is 03:05:25 So filming yeah, it's exciting. Yeah, just probably have to pay an editor, and that's about it He might edit it himself. Oh, it's not hard to do today No, you can kind of figure it out if you want to really cut down the amount of people working with you You know you could probably figure out how to just watch a YouTube video. Yeah, yeah You just have the time you could edit it all yourself And then you know you're kind of your own production and then just by word of mouth this guy got big Cuz it's right fun to watch right and like pretty intense. Yeah, he does sometimes Yeah, I saw this one video of him where he like oh, thank God. I found this cabin. Otherwise. I would have been
Starting point is 03:06:03 Though and you have to watch in your little kid like we almost lost dad yeah How close we are and almost exaggerating for the show I knew where I was yeah, it must be weird Having a famous parent. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, how did you how do your kids do like is it? They handled it pretty well because they've always had a famous parent. Oh, you didn't become famous right while it was yeah Yeah, that, yeah. That would be even weirder. Right. That's the weirdest.
Starting point is 03:06:28 For them, that's like what's normal. Right. If they always threw up in it, it's like it's whatever. Yeah. It's a problem. You know what else is a problem? I gotta pee so bad. Okay.
Starting point is 03:06:36 Let's wrap this up. Three hours, dude. Flew by. Hell yeah. Crazy. Tell everybody your Instagram. Bro, first of all, I'm'm super excited watching you do stand up you've been fucking killing it thank you really fun it's fun to watch it's fun
Starting point is 03:06:50 to watch you write and you know you're just wonder what I mean I've known you for so long now because I knew you at the Comedy Store to see you from there to where you are now it's super inspiring thank you thank you I'm again I'm glad and I thank you too for the opportunity for a place where I could work as hard as I'm able to work. It's like- You're making the most of it. Me and Tony were talking about it last night. You were literally making the most of it. All these young guys coming up. I used to have- there used to be this- I love The Niners.
Starting point is 03:07:17 And Steve Young is talking about his Super Bowl winning performance. It's like, I was given this opportunity to show how great I could be. So let me show great I could be it's like oh if you're giving me this opportunity to like get up all the time Yeah, let me write let me be let me be helpful to other young comics Let me just be a part of the scene process work it works. See it work. It works. Yeah So yeah, I mean hopefully you can follow me at a Sanjay Ahmad eh Sanjay ah M. Ad. I have a podcast with my friend Derek Who's the recent dad? Yeah recent dad called the Solid Show. I think our chemistry on there is phenomenal. Oh, it's phenomenal Yeah, he's the best. He's so lovable. He is maybe the most likable guy that's ever lived. He might be he's like a cartoon character Almost so if you don't like Derek, how the fuck are we gonna have a conversation?
Starting point is 03:08:01 So everybody loves that guy. Yeah, that's yeah. Oh my god. And then that's that's that's my podcast. So yeah, just follow me on there. And then I think this year, especially these last few sets have been having is like, oh, I got to film something beautiful. I want to I want to I got to find a way to do it. But I think I'll figure that out. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:18 Yeah. I got this stuff. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye. Bye!

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