The Joe Rogan Experience - #234 - Adam Scorgie

Episode Date: June 30, 2012

Joe sits down with Adam Scorgie.

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night! All day! Yo! What's going on? People getting mad at me for my fucking commercials. What, man? I like the way you do your commercials,

because they actually get into the... Listening to your podcast, I'll get lost in your... I'm like, oh shit, they're still in a commercial, they gotta bring it back yet. I'm not very professional. But it is what it is, folks. I think it's a better way of doing it. Let it fucking fly. Who gives a shit?

I think it's a better way of doing it. Yes, I agree. Holla. Adam Scorgi, ladies and gentlemen, my friend from another country. Yeah, well, not too far. He's from up north, our cousin to the north. Is that where we are? Are we brothers and sisters or are we cousins? far He's from up north Our cousin to the north Is that where we are? Are we brothers and sisters or are we cousins?

Because that's fucked up We live right next door We can't be brothers and sisters I think we gotta be brothers and sisters Then you gotta let the Mexicans in too That means Hey, you know what? Honestly without

Gotta let Mexicans fuck your sister With how hard I have to work on my yard We're not trying to be How rude How dare you How dare you suggest that Mexicans work on yards? Man, the ones down from my parents in Texas, they do a magical job, and they're $40 a week. They cut out sod and replace it.

You couldn't get someone to do what they do for $500 a week. Yeah, that's a lot of fucking work, man. Being a gardener? God damn. Think of how hard it is to be a goddamn gardener. That shit's brutal. Digging ditches all day out in L.A.? Holy shit, man.

L.A. is kind of a crazy place to live, if you really stop and think about it. We've got a lot of people here, and there's no fucking water. We have to steal the water from the Colorado River. We call our thing the LA River That is the most hilarious river ever It is like the perfect example of what's wrong with LA It's cement The LA River literally is a cement tube

And they call it the LA River Like that is not a fucking river You assholes That's a fake river And you know you guys get power from canada actually from dams not far from where i live we steal it or do we buy no we buy it dangerous weapons in canada next who you how do you guys make the power uh through big hydroelectric dams on on in the mountains wow so then you sell it to the United States? What parts of the United States?

California is one. And we brought it up in the union. Remember, like, Mayor of Vancouver, Larry Campbell, he says, he's like, I don't think the trades would stop. He's like, do you want LA in the dark and thirsty? Because we ship water too, right? Wow. So that's incredible. So the dams make so much electricity that you can power LA?

Yeah. Well, I don't think it powers the whole... I don't even know how they ship it or how it works, but we sell it. Do you even understand electricity? Yeah, I... No, I don't. Do you even? I do know that this... I have no idea how they save it in turbines. It's a mindfuck.

Our fucking houses are at every moment electrocuted. There's fucking cords, and if you lick them your head would explode all right it's just shooting this shit that powers up tvs and air conditioning and you don't even think about it you just plug in you're plugging into the nuttiest fucking thing you could ever possibly imagine there's some sort of an electrical pulse an an electrical field, an electrical... There's a wire, and it's connected somehow down the river to some fucking nuclear explosion. Right?

It's connected to a fucking nuclear power plant, and it's in your house. There's a direct line from that thing down to some fucking sun in the middle of downtown San Diego, wherever the fuck that power plant is. Man, you always get people thinking deep. Dude, that's a terrifying thought. Well, that's, I was trying to think, how do they ship it? Like, how do you store it? Do you put it in a can? Obviously, it has to

come through a line that then goes to it. I didn't even understand it a little tiny bit. There was a girl in the Starbucks the other day in line and, you know, I was getting my coffee and she was talking to her boyfriend and she was like What if it was fucking total chaos like if the power never came back on? And I was like why isn't that incredible that what we think of is total chaos is the grid

That if we lost this crazy thing that we've constructed, there's no way we could live without it. That's a weird fucking combination of human and machine and technology and relying on it all, all the time, and just being terrified of the idea of being forced to live off the land, use tools, catch your food. You know what I'm saying?

Like you said, it is Skynet. Isn't that crazy? What a weird thing that we've become that we haven't even noticed. It sort of snuck up on us and we became like a hybrid. We're like part people and fucking part technology.

We're constantly on the tit of technology. All day. All day. All day. All fucking day. How do you do it with your... Joe, you're pretty good with your Twitter getting back to everybody. I mean... I can't get back to everybody. It's impossible.

I mean, I would get nothing done. If I did, I would like... You know what I mean? I mean, I try to. I get back to people occasionally. But I can't commit to doing it to everybody. It's just impossible. But I think you do a pretty good job. I'm always able to hit you up there and you get back to people occasionally, but I can't commit to doing it to everybody. It's just impossible. But I think you do a pretty good job.

I'm always able to hit you up there, and you get back to me, and I think you do a pretty good job. I mean, I'm looking at mine. I only have like 11,000 followers, and I'm finding it hard to just try to be. It can get pretty nutty. I wonder how a dude like Justin Timberlake rocks it. I think they just have guys run it. That's so sad.

That's what I don't like. People like that, it just seems like it's their generic tweet where they're like, my show is here, I'm playing here, tickets, like there's none of them just saying,

oh shit, I just saw the craze. You're like, okay, that's just someone running it on a generic program. It's not them anymore. Well,

I think they just give it, they hand it over to the publicist. Some people do. Yeah. Yeah. That's unfortunate because I like Kevin Smith's tweets. I know Kevin smith's writing those tweets you know what i mean like uh jim norton i love jim norton's tweets so i i know he's writing them no and that's same i

i'd stop following the people that i don't think's writing them when it's just these great quotes all the time and stuff like will smith's quotes every day and i'm like okay i like that's i think joe i think that's i was talking to brian earlier like the community you guys built is because you guys are like interactively and you do do it yourself you're not having a publicist like checking everything you tweet and saying shouldn't do this and shouldn't and doing it for you but we should all totally have that it's really dumb that i don't i do the things I do. Brian wants an intervention. He's like, someone save me from myself.

Well, maybe I missed it, but you haven't done a tweet that's so bad. No, look, we're nice people. No, I'm fast deleting. The bottom line is that we're nice people. You've got to be a nice person, man. Life can throw you some situations that could go one way if you choose to be a nice person, man. It's like, you know, life can throw you some situations that could go one way if you choose to be a nice person or could go horribly wrong if you choose to be a douchebag or choose to, you know, be weird about it or not be considerate about another person's feelings.

You know, it's these little, like, moments where we, like, decide who we are. Like, it happens. And, you know, you can go down the wrong road it doesn't mean you're a bad person you like made a mistake you might have overreacted you might have been stressed out about something it doesn't mean you still can't be a good person and he's just got to reset and realize you're not the past okay you're not all your fuck-ups you're what you've learned you're now you're now. You're the you now that gets it. So move forward.

Move forward and let that shit go. Well, I have to bring it up for the people listening, Joe. I mean, how cool you were when we first came to do the union, right? Todd called you. We needed someone that we knew. We needed someone that knew the subject matter, that was a celebrity punch. And three guys from Canada, you said, yeah, no problem. We come to your house. I mean, still, people are like, what was the first time you met Joe? I was like, we came to the house, and he's like, how long to set up the lighting? And we're like, three guys from Canada, you said, yeah, no problem. We come to your house. I mean, still people are like, what was the first time you met Joe?

I was like, we came to the house, and he's like, how long to set up the lighting? And we're like, oh, 20 minutes. He's like, oh, the kitchen's over there, and I'll be right back. I'm just going on my computer. And I was like, man, we're just three random guys from Canada, and you're – Todd is a very good friend. And, you know, he's done a lot for the whole legalization process. I shouldn't even say that.

I should say the awareness process. He's got a great book on how to grow hemp. He's a brilliant guy when it comes to the history of it. And it's helped him personally through cancer. So he's very passionate about it. So when he brought it up to me, I was just like, okay, let's do it. It was awesome, man. so when he brought it up to me, I was just like, okay, let's do it. It was awesome,

man, because I mean, you're the number one asked for guy to interview for the next one. Like, that's why everyone's like, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe,

Joe. I was like, that's cool. I was like, I'll talk to him. I was like, they're like, you got to have them use.

And I mean, Joe, I mean, I had to watch the film 1000 times, but when I go to like sold out theaters and every time you're thinking like I could count, we knew the spots where people are laughing. We're like, okay up here let's nerf the world and I just literally go for somebody watching crowd will laugh now and they would every time man it was to see that reaction and thing and when we did the union it came out I don't think a lot of people had seen you in that context they knew he was a UFC guy not a lot of

people knew you from news radio unless they were a diehard fan and then they knew you from fear factor right right so they didn't see it like i remember a lot of people were like fear factor guy smokes weed like they were so shocked when you said that in the opening part we have you saying like i realized when i was 30 years old that i'd be fucking tricked you gotta be fucking kidding me yeah well that's really what it is um i was just being honest about it. I didn't think it was I didn't think doing it was anything other than what I had to do.

I think you have to when you know something about something like when you have an experience especially an experience about something that has such a tainted name like marijuana you're just like oh marijuana what is he a loser just listless and no spine and no motivation it's just got this terrible connotation and connection to it

and i bought it hook line and sinker until i was 30 years old and eddie bravo got me high yeah i remember when you brought eddie over that day the first time we met yeah i mean i was the same way when we did the union i think that's why the union turned out so good is that we weren't activists or anything in the beginning yeah you weren't a pot smoker at all that's what i tell people they're like oh what is he like is he a stoner no i don't know he's like clean cut kirk looking barbie motherfucker what's his name ken that's the guy well thanks i'll tell you I'll tell you. You're like a Ken. You're like a Ken doll. Why am I saying Kirk? Kirk? I don't know where you got Kirk from. Has there been a black Barbie guy

yet? There should be. What the fuck, man? Has there? They're scared. White people are so scared. So scared of a black man. Has to be. I bet there probably have. I mean, there must be.

Ken must have a friend. I bet he probably have. I mean, there must be. Ken must have a friend. I bet he has really white features, though. Let's see what his features look like. All right, let's see. I don't know if there's any black men. I think I remember some of the black Barbie friends, but, I mean, there wasn't my toy by choice. Black Barbie.

They must have black Barbie. Yeah, they do, and it looks pretty creepy. How does that work? I mean, that's pretty creepy. Oh, shit. That's like Tyrese. No, or Tyson Beckford. Yeah, that's a handsome black man.

Look, you just got to accept that. If that girl meets that guy, he's going to fuck her. That's a representative in doll form of what would really happen. Look at his body. He's a super athlete. I wonder if the white guy's got a body like that. Pull up a white Ken. Let's see if they only gave the black guy

a body like that because that would be hilarious. Because if that was a human being... I think that one's just a spoof one that someone made. Oh, stop, stop, stop. It's real. That's Brian fucking with you. You son of a bitch.

You son of a bitch, Brian. That's a Tyson Beckford Barbie doll. Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize. I've been trolled. He got me. Brian, that was pretty good. Son of a bitch. Are boys supposed to have the Ken doll?

Is that what it is? Or girls buy the boy doll? I thought they tried to sell it as that, but I don't think it ever... I don't think it was. I think it never was for guys at all. A few dudes must have bought it and been like,

what the fuck did I do? I did G.I. Joe fucking Barbie in the hot tub. Yeah, no, that's... I was going to say, am I the only guy that every time I go over to my cousins and there'd be Barbie and Ken, I'd strip them down

and put them in a sexual position. I was like seven, so you only knew missionary, right? He'd just always be a guy on top. Yeah. Barbie. Ken. I would buy Hulk dolls and shit like that.

Why is that any better? Why is that any better than Ken? It's the Hulk. You and Saw Avengers. All good was Avengers. Ken. If you had a Ken doll, that's how you'd get into the Barbie party. If all those little girls

are hanging out and partying and you want to party with them, you've got to get a Ken doll. It's like your car. It's like your vehicle for getting into the little girl party. I would have tried more of the approach of just Hulk smash his way in there. Oh, that's what you do? You can't do that when you're 12, man.

I just don't think I would have been that slick to think about the hook line to get into the place. Actually, that's what you do you can't do that when you're 12 man that's uh i just don't think i would have been that slick actually about the the hook line to get into the place actually that's ridiculous because 12 year old boys are not playing barbie right i wouldn't have that i wouldn't have been that slick right like they usually still insult each other's out when they like each other at that age yeah but i'm just saying 12 years old is way too old like they gave up on barbie when i think kids give up on Barbie real early. I think especially now with technology. So any boy who buys a Barbie doll is probably just being tricked if he buys a Ken doll.

He's been tricked by marketers. I think he's only been tricked. Marketers have got him. That's what it is. I mean, I collected G.I. Joe's Masters of the Year. Yeah, exactly. I had all those. I had all the Marvel superheroes.

I had all them, too. I was a big Wolver had all those. I had all the Marvel superheroes. I had all them, too. I was a big Wolverine junkie. I had his first 50 comics. Yeah, men are dorks. Somewhere along the line, though, you feel real guilty about that. I got rid of my comic book collection when I was poor, and I needed money. I sold my entire comic book collection. It was just one of those desperation, I need food moves.

comic book collection. It was just one of those desperation I need food moves. And there was a part of me that was like, this is good because you really have to grow up. Like, what are you doing reading comic books? You're in your 20s now. And you have to, you know, you're struggling out here. You can barely feed yourself.

You're rolling nickels to eat. You know, like finding change in your house. Get rid of the comic book, bitch. Then once I got rid of the comic book bitch yeah then once i got rid of them like man did you guys ever experiment with uh visionaries excuse me the toy it was like right after gi joe and they were like a beefier gi joe but they had like holograms all over them like a hologram of a wolf and it looked i have no idea what that is i only once once they stopped gi joe, I was pissed.

That was about when I grew out of it, and it was just video games after that and sports. I was a huge comic book fan for a long time. I wanted to be a comic book illustrator at one point, so I was always buying. Can you draw? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to draw real good when I was young,

but I had a really douchey high school art teacher that kind of turned me off. He kept emphasizing that, yeah, if you want to be an illustrator, you're going to have to draw things you don't want to draw. You're going to have to draw diaper ads. Diaper ads was the one thing that he kept bringing up. You're a professional artist. You might have to work and do a diaper ad. I was like, this guy's just so negative.

Fuck artists. He was a really dour dude. might have to work and do a diaper ad and i was like this guy's just so negative like fuck artists you know it was just he was a really a really dour dude it sucks when you had those kind of teachers in high school where there was art class or whatever that you look back now and realize how they really shouldn't have been there and didn't put in the time yeah he was gross man like even if you drew like what, your interpretation of something, like a weird sort of interpretation of something, he would be like, if they want you to draw something for an advertisement, you draw what they ask you to draw.

I'm like, dude, you're gross. This is gross. You're like, you're putting this weird fucking spin on what is and isn't cool to draw. I like comic books, bitch. Are you telling me there's something wrong with that? Yeah, and look, the comic industry, like now they're all transferring to video game industry, which is huge.

So those people that were telling them not to do that. Telling bitches. It's stupid. But then you get that, you get that like one good teacher that actually takes a little bit of time and gives you, and you're like, whoa, like I can learn so much

when I just get that little bit of respect. I remember I an english teacher and it wasn't it was in like the 10th grade and i didn't know how to write essays properly because i didn't pay attention to my other classes and instead of just giving me c minus or d she came up to me after class she's like adam has anyone ever told you that you write like your opening statement and your argument of like how to do it and i was like no and she's like oh my god right she's like okay well I'll help you with that and then I'd like but I thought that was so simple that was the first teacher just asked like instead of just give me a flunking grade being like do you know how to do this yeah I had a really really cool English teacher that everybody tried to get into her class when they got in their class they they were psyched, because she was really generous with the grades, but she was just the sweetest, nicest lady, and when you would go into her class,

it would be a completely different vibe than all the other classes, everybody was happy, they were all relaxed, because there was no, like, authoritarian, but she was such a nice person, you would never want to get her upset with you, like, if she, like, had to quiet you down, because you were talking in the back of the room, or something like that, you would if she like had to quiet you down because you were talking in the back of the room or something like that you would feel genuinely bad like you know you'd apologize because she was a sweet sweet person she was so inspirational there's one lady teacher and i had one spanish teacher that was a bad motherfucker as well but right he was like he he wasn't like i think he was a fairly young guy, and he was handsome. And, like, the girls were, like, all over him, man.

And the dude, like, I know he had a dodge like a lot of 17-year-old girls. Because he was a really handsome guy. I don't think he was any older than, like, 23 or 24. That's a scary situation to be in. It was really interesting, man. Because he was not much older than us. I remember that feeling. He was so much closer to us than all these other teachers.

The math teacher was in her 50s. This guy was still alive. He was still pulsing. Because all the rest are dead. Dude, there were some dead people that was teaching high school, man. I know. I mean, I wasn't the greatest in high school. It's hard. It doesn't pay well. The kids aren't wasn't the greatest in high school. It's hard.

It doesn't pay well. The kids aren't behaved. The kids are like me. I wasn't not behaved. I was an idiot. I was too. And I mean, I used to get into fights all the time because I was insecure. And so I was always getting in trouble for that.

But I'll tell you that like teachers, what they told me later on is that they used to hear so many bad things about me in the staff room that they were terrified of me in their class but the teachers that were cool like i never ever like you said like if i had a teacher that showed me respect from the beginning like if she asked me i would feel guilty like you said or he like i'd be oh i let him down because this guy like treats me like he's really teaching me and he treats me as an adult right and is trying to get me to instead of like you said like coming in like a dictator and slashing you down, like I never responded well with those teachers. Yeah, I don't like anybody that's a douchebag. And I don't want to be them when I grow up.

You know, that's how it would feel. I'd be in their class, I'd be like, shut down, boom. Not paying attention. Barely squeaked through. That was my strategy for basically every class mine too i barely it was funny because one of uh the teachers my buddy works at a bank and they're getting a loan and and she brought up she's like where's that adam scourgey kid is he in jail or is

he with the bikers now and then my buddy's like no actually he's uh gonna be on tv this week and he's in and they're like what and even her husband grabbed her and was kind of like yeah he, he's going to be on TV this week. And they're like, what? And even her husband grabbed her and was kind of like, yeah, he's doing well. So people thought you were going to grow up to be a psycho. Yeah. I mean, I grew up in a different, like, I mean, my dad owned a strip club when I was going through high school and just after high school. It was a nightclub first, then a strip club. And then that was the madness that I inherited when he passed away in 2003.

Ooh, Jesus. That's when we did yeah so and i'd been away in new york that how old were you i was 23 jesus christ and you have to take over this crazy strip club in vancouver is that where it was no colonna colonna yeah and it was i mean that was like biker gangs rolling through there and shit yes you're 23 years old. Well, you see, most of the agencies that send the girls in BC are owned by MC clubs. Holy shit. Right? So my dad had worked in, yeah.

When I took over, it was, we've been trying to put together a screenplay for years. Damn. It was, you know, 23 years old. I'm thrown into this. I was living in New York for four years, came back, hadn't been in that environment forever. What is that environment like? Like, is Vancouver just have a lot of motorcycle gangs? Is that like a really common thing? Yeah, they're the number one. back hadn't been in that environment forever what is that environment like like is vancouver just have a lot of motorcycle gangs is that like a really they're the number one like there's an

article in the mcleans that the ha were it was said rich and powerful in bc some of the richest out of they there's not they don't have as many rivals it's smaller i mean there's more people in the state of california than the entire country of canada right so it's just smaller so there's less competition and they are the number one wow so that's like the organized sort of situation up there yeah how dangerous is it well i mean i know some of them like you know that i went growing up through the bar that i knew that are great and you know i'm friends with them i is it an accepted part of the culture super accepted like actually when you look at them as a young guy and you're like oh my god like when they say crime doesn't pay and you see these guys that are well built in shape beautiful girlfriends they have sixty thousand dollar harley six thousand dollar boats they're in their 20s and you're like

damn right like they're the rock stars of colonna like when you when you go to my hometown it's like that's that's the guys. They'll have a boatload of beautiful women. Is it possible to get in trouble for talking about this? If you're talking about that you know these guys are Kelowna's? Well, that's why I haven't said the actual name. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, you can't say it. But to you guys, it's like when Vegas ran the mob? Yeah. Or was it rather the mob ran Vegas? Yeah, I mean, they're a big part of, I mean, they're in Kelowna, where I live, there's 150,000 people, and there's three MC clubs. Now, do they have, like, shootouts and shit?

Or do they generally get along? Well, we, just BC's had a lot of shootings in general with the drug trade coming up right now. There's been... Jesus. All could be avoided. You saw that i mean i think it made national news where there's that shooting downtown vancouver in the hotel and

there's like a women's national soccer team staying up it was broad daylight right in the restaurant five star or four star hotel right in the lobby vancouver's getting back what was it about of course it's all the drug trade it just hits they put a hit on somebody or something something to do with that yeah it was oh that's so scary man that's a scary culture to be crisscrossing with you know man and you're doing then you put booze in that mix and you're running and you're dealing with this ticking time bomb yeah right that's just it was a real test i mean my my wife i'm with now i mean she stuck there with me and helped me through you know all those headaches when we were going through the place and i mean all this happened

like i had a bad i did a bad deal with a childhood friend on the club so i didn't get paid 23 and all of a sudden you've taken over this crazy little situation and sharks just everywhere right and even some that don't they don't realize they're going to be a shark some friends that because of the club and what that kind of brought for them they're like oh adam you should never sell it it's your dad's legacy and you know because i want to just go back to new york and continue with my film career right like i wanted i'd already was starting to do well there and i wanted nothing and then i'd be like oh it's sound then i'd get convinced to stay keep it because my dad left it but and so the end of the day i didn't get half of what i was supposed to get out of it and i was shooting the union i was planning on using the

rest of that to finish so i had to go back to my stepfather like two or three more times to get the financing we needed to finish and it was you know my first film so people are starting to think i'm kind of crazy like the astronaut farmer right like you've been working on this film for a year and a half you've sunk everything into it you farmer. You've been working on this film for a year and a half. You've sunk everything into it. You sold your house to make this film. It was a really well-done movie. You did a really good job of editing it.

It was very entertaining. It's like I've seen a bunch of cannabis documentaries, and I think yours is the best. I really do. It's a really well-done piece. You show so many points and so many sides of it that are just irrefutable. And it's all just laid out there. And people can choose to make their own decisions of what they should and shouldn't do with their body.

But if you think that that cannabis should be illegal, you're insane. You're completely insane. How about that? The film was done so well in parliament's eyes i just got invited to parliament hill in canada like that's canada's white house for those who out there don't know i got invited by the liberals to help show the other mps the pros and cons of cannabis prohibition with the union they had heard in the war the way it happened is aaron kotler who is the former to erwin kotler former attorney general of canada under jean cretchen he had originally looked to put a decriminalization bill in when cretchen was

ending his term um but then it didn't go through and his son erwin cotler's son was actually like really pissed off and was like man i can't believe you do that it gets kids addicted what are you thinking about so then when it came up recently that they're now the liberals in canada are looking at putting what they call the most comprehensive legalization bill that's been tried to be passed in Canada. His dad mentioned this in an interview and his son called in and was like, dad, you know, and he's like, hey, why did you say that I was so against it? And he's like, well, that's what you told me last time. He's like, no, I watched this movie called The Union. I totally changed my perspective and I want you and mom to see it.

So these MPs kept hearing about it and they kept getting letters from people saying I want you and mom to see it. So these MPs kept hearing about it and they kept getting letters from people saying like from this and you should watch it. You should. So they sent me an email and said, hey, can you come out? I thought I was getting punked at first.

So think about the topic. Could you see that happening here in the US? Oh, the White House would like to. This fucking corrupt cunt farm well that's it there's pictures me and brett we're both just standing there going like really like you really invited us here that's incredible yeah what was it like we're in this all oh you dressed like oh i put on a suit i want you know i went to go be professional business attire full business attire suit i got some pictures uh brian if you want to pull them up but it's like me sitting

with em they did a cool way of doing a screening is they had a square table and they had tvs on in this attire suit. I've got some pictures, Brian, if you want to pull them up, but it's like me sitting with the end. They did a cool way of doing a screening is they had a square table and they had TVs on the inside that were like this. So no matter what side you sat on, you could see them.

And then on the tables, there's also the big screen. So everybody's sitting there with their mics and they can all look like they're sitting in the thing looking forward. And then what about the bolo tie?

That shit's ridiculous. Which one's the bolo tie? The bolo tie, that little string tie that was super popular for a while. They tried to... Remember that? The bolo tie? They tried to pass it off as a tie, though. It was a bolo tie. You could even sneak into a lot of restaurants

that you're supposed to have a tie on with a bolo tie. Oh, well, Brad got nailed at the Parliament Hill restaurant because we went to go there, and he just wore a dress shirt and dress pants, but they're like, well, Brett got nailed at the Parliament Hill restaurant because we went to go there. And he just wore a dress shirt and, like, dress pants. But they're like, oh, no tie. So they had this drawer. And I swear they got the ugliest ties ever made just to be like, don't you ever forget your tie when you come in here. They were hideous.

How silly are ties? Come on. How silly is it to say to someone You're not done You don't have your full outfit on You don't have your full outfit You have a shirt You have a jacket You have a vest

Do you have a vest? No he just had the dress shirt Just a dress shirt and dress pants I came in the full suit Not enough That's not enough You must have this extra thing This extra piece of cloth

So I know that you're a gentleman Cause only a gentleman Wears, this extra piece of cloth, so I know that you're a gentleman. Because only a gentleman wears this extra formal piece of cloth. I don't expect you, with your tie clip, to be calling anybody a cunt or telling people to go fuck themselves. You know what I'm saying? That's when they know they can trust you. There's a lot of stuff when you go in there and you look at the old chairs that they sit in where the queen, if she comes,

and you kind of look at all this and you're like, really? Does that matter? Well, what about in the olden days when they wore those crazy wigs i think in canada those dudes were not the ones powdered wigs yeah what was that about like when they were in court and shit they would wear crazy wigs it's hot and sexy what are you talking about can you imagine how much it must have sucked dick to live back then it might have been cool to have wigs on fuck out of here to live

it's hot these assholes with wigs on are deciding your future and fucking knocking sticks on the ground hear ye

hear ye yeah everyone would look so weird and mysterious and you'd die of the flu how about that yeah but has law

got much better now like maybe there's not the show but I mean it's a game when you get in there. Oh, it's certainly a game. Law is confusing, man. It's like, God, who is this benefiting to have so goddamn many of them, even lawyers? I mean, folks, let's just, we need balance. We need balance.

We can't have people just struggling to try to sue people. We need some balance in this. Well, that was the other thing is after I dealt with all the shit with my dad's club and took over, then my half-sister sued me for the estate because my dad had left everything to me. That's when shit gets crafty. I couldn't even believe, you know, going on. And, like, we hadn't talked in years, and I, you know,

really reached out, and I bought her a car and done things to try, like, oh, you know, maybe out of this tragedy we can build a relationship. Uh-huh. Oh, man, it just went for the money. Wow. People are, you know, people look at other people sometimes like a lottery. You know, just they don't think they're ever going to be able to make money on their own. And this is a certain amount of people, and they have this sort of like,

it's almost like a victim's rights mentality that life has fucked them so hard that they're gonna they're gonna go after you yeah because they can man i did that what you felt oh i felt that in the in the in the club so you just put a thought in your head no man it brings no very specific thing is that what you felt like how uh sumptuous of me sorry no no it's because when when i had the club there's a lot of people you know when, when I was running it that felt that, well, if you could fuck the customer, good for us, right? We're making money.

And I'm just like, man. Yeah, that's a bad karma situation, man. I've met people that are real nice people. Like how about Bob, the owner of the Ice House? Perfect example, right? Super nice. Super nice person. Owns this club.

He's putting out good karma, you know? Real nice to people. Always very friendly very generous guy just a cool guy so in and out of that comes comes good you know you get you control your environment you know totally well that was when you know when my dad ran the club it did well because my dad was the owner they'd be out there shaking everybody's hand he was like he had so was it resentment no there's no over well here's this there's a ton of cocaine being sold all through my place right so when i took over you know i i eyes have been you know people turning a blind

eye for a while i did i look like the kingpin right everybody's working there moving and hey i know people did what they have to do to do in the club, so I said that stops in the club, and then all my staff left. Oh, shit. You were at a cocaine operation. You didn't even know it. Yeah. Wow.

You inherited a cocaine operation. Oh, yeah. I inherited a mess. And you were 23. 23. Oh, my God. And I was producing The Union, my first film.

That was my only chance to get out of the hole. How old were you when I met you? I was 24. That's hilarious. Or 25. 25. Well, for Todd to have that much faith in you guys, it showed. It showed.

Well, it showed, you know, once I met you. But it certainly showed with your final work where his head was at. Because it's really good, man. It's very, very entertaining. It moves well. Well, I always said if people could see the story of what it took to put that together, that would be a more entertaining doc. Nah, maybe just to you.

Okay. There's no way the making of your fucking movie could be as entertaining as the reason why pot is illegal. No way, dude. No. Get serious. No. It might be to you. Well, no.

Well, that's why we're... It might be like a wedding video or something that's awesome to you but nobody else wants to do it. No, it's definitely not, man. It's an honor to see the impact it's had. I mean, my stepdad was the one that lent me the money to do it.

Right. And for me, it was really cool. One day, we were down at P.F. Chang's in Houston. We were eating, and I had my union shirt on, and the waiter comes over, and he's like, man, that movie's fucking awesome. He's like, I Netflixed it. I got 10 friends coming over.

I'm going to show it to all them. And I was like, oh, cool, thanks. And because I had my hat and glasses, and he was like, thanks. And he's like, wait, you're the fucking guy that's, like, he wasn't swearing, but he's like, you the guy and i was like oh so he thought he was just saying it was cool yeah because he saw the logo right on my shirt and then you know i'd had that before and it was really it's always flattering i can't believe anybody you know knows my work that well but then for my dad to see right because he took this huge gamble on us right give us two hundred thousand

dollars cash oh my god he did holy. You borrowed 200 grand from your dad? Yeah, to go shoot it. Whoo! That's some pressure, son. Oh, and I had to go back two or three times because when I got screwed over at the club, I was anticipating to have money from that that I didn't get, and now the film was the only thing I could use to pay back.

I'm like, well, if I'm ever going to pay him back, I have to get the film finished. Otherwise, I'll never get out of the hole. Wow. So I had to keep going back and back, and only now, recently, that's why it's funny. it's funny some people ask me how much have you made off the union i was like i still owe my family some money do you really yeah wow that's so that movie still hasn't gotten to the black well it did the distributors made money right but you know they

there's the marketing shipping and then it's at the end of the day, we have not seen any. Like, I've been able to pay off my dad a majority of his stuff, thank God. Right? And there's still residual checks coming in. They're pretty small. But it didn't make, like, it didn't do millions of dollars or, you know, these numbers that some people might think. I think a lot of people might have stole your shit online, too. Oh, if we got a quarter for every, like, Pir stuff we'd be in the green yeah you know it's funny because people go yeah well you know he's

not losing any money because i wasn't gonna download i mean i wasn't gonna buy it anyway so i would have never bought it so it's not like he's losing any money but it was okay yeah it's all i know it's it's it's tricky it's tricky. But then at the same time, a lot of people did see it because of that. The viral Facebook and social media is the main. Because we had no money for marketing. Yes. That's what made it go super viral. So for our first film, to get the exposure is great.

And we weren't that. As long as we could pay our families off, we're happy about it. I've seen a bunch of memes from that documentary. You know, like those internet memes where you quote somebody and there's a photo of them. Oh, there's tons. And there's tons of where they've just cut your clips where it's just the Joe Rogan clips from the union. And then it's like quotes, like pictures of you that'll say, like, let's nerf the world. You caught me in my most indignant moment, too.

Because when we did that, it was when I really had just started smoking on a regular basis. What year did we do this? 2005, we would have interviewed you. So I had only been smoking for like five years. So I was gearing up with my frustration with the whole situation. with my frustration with the whole situation. It was really like you caught it at the exact right time where I was having these conversations with people where they would say there's something wrong with pot and this and that

and I don't think it should be legal. I'm like, what are you even yapping about? What are you talking about? You're saying that it should be illegal to have a beer? Because do you know how that worked out? Did you ever hear about that prohibition thing? Yeah, it went fucking crazy. An organized crime got a foothold in our society. And I and guess what that's exactly what's going on right now it's the

exact same thing it's just with marijuana and it's with a bunch of other different substances that are somehow or another still getting sold everywhere all the time they're gonna legalize everything it's it's it's crazy that's you can't you mean, you've got to let people know exactly what everything does to you. You've got to take a massive amount of taxes from the sale of anything, whether it's marijuana or whether it's, you know, I don't know if you should be able to sell the hard shit, you know, but I think you should be able to sell mushrooms. I don't think you should be able to sell, like, dangerous narcotics

that we know are devastating to actual life and to our society but if you can prove that something has a history of human use like mushrooms and you can prove that there's a massive amount of anecdotal evidence people have like changed their lives john hopkins university had this long-term study people did one mushroom trip and 20 years later they're they're still like they're a better person because the experience it's like that kind of you hear those kind of stories over and over and over and over again and you're not no one's dying so you feel like it's okay for this in this instance the argument's ridiculous it's ridiculous that you would try to make this obviously massively beneficial thing illegal there's got to be something going on oh you got you got to see what we have in store for the next one like brett wants to take it to

a whole new level that's talking about some of the think tanks of like why we get into this like are we least effective when caught up in group mentality right because even when we were in parliament hill we were talking to some of the guys there and like like brett was asking some questions key questions like he's like you know because they said they had to put a bill through the day before and it was was 1,000 pages. And he was like, how often is it that sometimes things just get missed and they get passed?

And the guy was like, more often than you'd think. Just because people don't want to read. It's at the end of the week, and they're like, oh, there's a 1,000-page bill that you want to read. And you go through it, and then that's the stuff

where the Schmier campaigns come up years later, right? And they're like, he signed this thing 10 years ago, and he was working for, like, whether it's the conservatives, and they're like, he signed this thing 10 years ago. And he was working for like, whether it's the conservatives or, and they were like, okay, we're all signing. And like, he's going to go home and after all the work he's done,

16 hour day at the Hill, go home and read a thousand page, boringest language ever too, right? Like not, we're not talking anything. And then try to make sure that you understand every line before you put your signature on it. Is it really a thousand pages? That was the one that had just been passed. Yeah. And how many days would, do this guy have to work sure that you understand every line before you put your signature on it. Is it really a thousand pages? That was the one that had just been passed. And how many days

did this guy have to work on that? They'd have a decision at the end of the week he was saying. And then they have a four hour vote. It had been worked on for a long time, but by the time it got to that stage, then it's like they... So did they have to read the whole one thousand pages? Well, that's what he said. A lot of the times, it depends

on who's dealing with it. Who would ever expect someone to be able to do that? That's what I was looking at, just the workload they have. Oh, my God. We were leaving at 6, and they were going into a four-hour vote. I was just like, oh, my God. Holy shit. And they almost like we went to look through, and the guy's like, oh, if you come through here, you have to stay through the whole thing.

So if you come past this point, then you cannot leave because it's in session. I was like, well, I'm not going near there. Four hours. Jesus Christ. That'll be the... Wow. Did you see that recent video of the woman from the DEA

fielding questions about... I posted it on the YouTube page. The gentleman from Colorado who was asking if marijuana was less dangerous than heroin. All drugs are bad. And she wouldn't respond. She was just like, well, we feel that all illegal drugs are bad.

Have you seen it, Brian? Oh my God, pull it up because it's preposterous. What would you Google? What would be the word? I'll just put DEA. DEA agent stumped marijuana. It was a lady with particularly sad eyes.

She really did. She had particularly sad eyes. I don't think there's any joy in that job. And when you know that all you're doing is trying to keep people from smoking pot because that's what they're telling you to do, there's no joy in that, man. That lady had no joy in her art. Well, look at even Leap.

Leap has members of the DEA. She's just doing her job. That's it. Yeah, that's her. Yeah. I just checked by the dopey eyes hilariously enough. What is this gentleman's name? Because he's a bad motherfucker.

What is his name? He's from Colorado. Let's give him props. I believe all illegal drugs are bad. Is methamphetamine worse for somebody's health than marijuana? I don't think any illegal drug is good. Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana? Again, all... I mean, do you guys know or I don't know? You can look this up. You should

know this as the chief administrator for the Drug Enforcement Agency. I'm asking you a very straightforward question. Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana? Jared Polis, you bad motherfucker. We've got to look again at him for the culture of our shit. All illegal drugs are bad. Does this mean you don't know heroin causes an addiction okay it causes causes many problems is very hard to take it so does that mean that the health impact of heroin is worse than marijuana is that what you're telling me I think I think you're asking a subjective question no it's objective just looking at Just looking at the science, this is your area of expertise. I'm a layperson, but I've read some of the studies and I'm aware of it.

I'm just asking you as an expert in the subject area, is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana? I'm answering as a police officer and as a DEA agent that these drugs are illegal because they are dangerous, because they are addictive, because they do hurt a person's health. So heroin is more addictive than marijuana? Is heroin more addictive than marijuana in your experience? Generally, the properties of heroin, yes, it's more addictive.

Is methamphetamine more addictive than marijuana? Well, both are addictive. Is methamphetamine more highly addictive than marijuana? Well, both are addictive. Is methamphetamine more highly addictive than marijuana? I think some people become addicted to marijuana and some people become addicted to methamphetamine. You mentioned that your top priority, I believe you indicated to us, is abuse of prescription drugs. Is one of the main classifications of prescription drugs painkillers that you're concerned about? That's correct. And are those painkillers addictive? Yes, they are. Very addictive.

Are those painkillers more addictive than marijuana? All illegal drugs in Schedule 1 are addictive. Oh, my God. It's amazing that that person is in charge of anything that has anything to do with the legality of marijuana. Well, see, that's where we want to show in the culture high, right, is there seems to be this global cultural shift in the way people are looking at cannabis laws. And the people that are coming out now are more intellectuals and stuff than ever. You're seeing some big names, like several members of the DEA that are now part of LEAP that are talking out against it big time.

Well, it's a crime. It's a criminal thing, what they're doing is somehow or another they're being forced into a situation where they're ignoring the science and ignoring the the the um health benefits and ignoring the medicinal benefits and just the fact that people enjoy it enjoy and and the fact that there's virtually no one has ever died from it ever really realistically no one has ever died from it just that just that that anybody keeping you from that, anybody keeping you from that, that's not your friend. That's not your friend.

That's craziness. It's craziness that they think they can keep you from an experience. Because that's really, at the end of the day, what it really is. You're still responsible for your actions. You shouldn't be driving when you're baked out of your fucking head and forget which way to turn in the middle of an intersection and cause a fucking car. That is possible. Man, you shouldn't eat too much NyQuil.

Exactly. Exactly. But you should be responsible for your actions and that that is what being a human being should be all about carry your own weight take responsibility for the shit that you fuck up if you fuck up something because you're high like you go and smash a window it's not the high you a lot of people could have been high and they walk right by that window and didn't want to break it at all you are an asshole man and you should have to pay for that fucking window but it has nothing to do with weed joe come come run a nightclub and you want to see a ticking time bomb oh my god i couldn't imagine there's people on booze where i've had this conversation a million times when i used to work the door and you have to escort

them out because they're too drunk right of course Of course. And then they're like, what? What do you mean? This is a bar. And I'm like, yeah, where you're allowed to drink, but you can't get wasted, right? But then this goes around in a circle and they'll be like, fine, fine. They get out the door and then they forget and they come back. So why did I get kicked out, man? Because you're too drunk.

Oh, my God. Dude, it's a bar. I'm like, I just went through this wreck. I honestly can't understand. I'm like, are you that? Like, is it really just goes and it goes blank and then goes blank and keeps coming and then they start getting as you keep being nice and you're like listen you're done for tonight come back tomorrow i'll even i'll even pay your cover tomorrow if you come back but tonight you're done right that's very generous of you no and that's that was always the offer be like i hope you get

a cab and i'll wave your cover if you come back tomorrow but tonight you're done and then they take your kindness reading and they start being like, yo, then you're fucking, and the booze start like, you see them morph into this person. And I bet when he was sober, he would have just been a nice guy. But in there, all of a sudden, it's like, he gets too drunk, he wants to be an ass, you start off as polite as you can, they'll be polite, and then their emotions shift.

The dumbest thing to do too is when you're out and you're drunk and you be a douchebag to a bouncer oh it's such a bad move it's such a bad move i've worked the door and i never got that logic where someone's like do you know what you make 10 bucks an hour you're trying to get the gold star some people are just assholes you know we you gotta, I have a, I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but I have great respect for cops and great respect for people who are working,

you know, security in a club or a nightclub or something like that. Like, that's a difficult position. It's a dangerous position. Thank you very much. That's how I feel about it. Like, so when I, if ever I'm in a situation, if I ever was, I never are are but if i was i would be

very polite like no sir uh you know none no craziness no wanting to fight the cop you know like jesus fucking christ those people are assholes oh it's you know you can't blame alcohol for those people i don't know what it is i don't know what causes it but you can't blame alcohol when a guy tries to punch a cop you know those guys like some, like... Some people, it's just a... Like, that's the thing you're serving. You see, in Colonial Maria, there's a lot and a lot of growers. That's how I knew so much about the details of the union, right? How it all broke down.

I looked at getting into it when my dad first died and passed away. Like, as to supplement me to go to film school, right? Like, I looked at being the landowner that would buy the house, have people that would grow for me. I'd come back every three months split the cash 50 50 but then how dangerous is that dangerous right canada's much more lenient than it is in the u.s for sure but i i didn't do it and that was originally the beginning of the union we cut my story out because we thought at the end of the day the union's so much bigger than my story it's not right care so we cut it out but that's what got us into that and originally when we were going to do the union we're just going to do an expose the bc industry right and how it's so evolved and how

like there's a mortgage broker that'll help you because you got bad credit and they'll send you to this banker to help put it through and then you've got a realtor like they all know like even my one of my friends worked at a car dealership and they so it's under their discretion whether or not things get flagged is that how that works well well you know at the banks why am i asking this am i going into organized crime yeah what's the deal fuck am i so nosy for no it's interesting it's one of some people's most like favorite part of the union right but you can that was where i felt guilty is that a lot of these

guys would come in in the wintertime colonna's dead it's a summer town and they would come in and they got the most disposable income because they got some cash that they can't always put into things so then they come in and spend two or three grand and that's awesome for us right like right i'm like yeah and then but i'm like okay who's the bad guy here like a lot of people say he's bad he's a drug dealer he's growing but I know what he does, and I'm gladly taking his money to serve another drug. So then I was like, how am I any better? He's not a drug dealer. He's selling weed.

That is a completely different connection than someone who will sell you something that's fucked up. True. Because there are dudes who are real drug dealers who are casual about it, get people hooked. There's people that are real clever about it. I've known the guys that have sold coke and stuff. I owned a club through that. Scary. I saw that.

But the problem is that while it's still the way it is, well, a lot of them are controlled or they get ripped off by gangs and stuff, right? So dangerous. That's where it's... Like now in Canada, though, you can get a federal license. That's the way a lot of guys are going. If they don't have Canada, though, you can get a federal license. That's the way a lot of guys are going. If they don't have a criminal record, they can get a federal license.

So there's no... Like here, you have a state license and the feds come in. You get a federal license and you can grow. What? For medicinal reasons, yeah. Okay, but don't you have a dispute in certain parts of Canada where they're far more conservative? They don't feel the same way about marijuana?

Yeah, they do. But that is a federal license that they're looking now to try to shut down but it's to grow because there's people who's looking to try to shut it down well the government's looking to change it they're looking to change it back to make it not available i'm not sure of all that we have to dive into that once we get into the research but they're trying to pull it back but it was interesting i just went into a huge grow up just outside of my town that was a total legal one. And it had like 19 permits for like they could do the clones. They could store for others.

They could do huge, huge operations. I'll show you pictures on my phone. It was like I think they said they had 150 lights. So if you – and they were getting – high times they were doing an article because they were getting 2.2 pounds of light. So they're getting like 150 pounds, 170 pounds every – but completely legal. Holy shit. They had cameras.

When I was there, the cops were coming through it with them, and this thing was so clean. Joe, Brian, they had opera music. They had opera music playing in the thing because it enhances their growth cycle. Oh, my God. I want to move to Canada. I want to move to Canada. I want to move to Canada. So they wanted me to come because I was a uni guy.

They're like, ah, yeah, you can film anything you want in here. And it was beautiful. I'll show you guys some pictures. I got it on my phone. America is too fucking stupid to let that happen. But that would be of great benefit to people. It would provide jobs. It would change the economy.

And once marijuana became legal, then hemp could become legal. Hemp's legal in Canada too. We're selling on it. We're going to start selling this hemp protein powder. It's fucking awesome, man. There's a dark chocolate. I forget the company's name, but I've been drinking this stuff really steady for a

couple months now. Hemp protein doesn't give me terrible gas gas it doesn't fuck with me it feels like really healthy it's like a really easily digestible plant protein for me i really love it man i've really been getting into it but we can't get any fucking hemp hearts it's really hard you can only get 50 pounds a day that's the most you can order so it's like the hemp part is just so bizarre to me because that makes just zero sense. Like we explained in the movie. Super protein rich, man.

Yeah, you can use it, manufacture it, ship it, everything, but grow it here in the U.S. It's so stupid because what people don't even understand is hemp is not psychoactive. You can't even get high from it. It's like a cousin plant to the psychoactive version of marijuana. Although you could use marijuana as well. You could use the stems and the sticks. I mean, it's the same shit as hemp. It's just that the flowers of the marijuana plants are the ones that get you high.

So, it's not whether or not people could, I guess someone could pretend like, oh, this is just a non-psychoactive hemp. I have flowers. I don't see any flowers. What are you saying? Oh, what happened here? This is a mistake. Oh, how did this live marijuana tree?

Oh, well, let me pull this out. This is the devil. But the rest of them are just for making underwear and paper and oil. Well, I think once it happens, the thing is once it gets impregnated, then the whole crop, like you can't keep just the one or two like that. I don't know enough about the botany of how it grows. I don't know. But I think a lot of people think, too, is they don't realize, like, have you seen some of the products it's being used for?

Like in the new Bugattis and stuff like that, the interiors being done with hemp. Well, did you see that lotus that they made out of hemp? Yeah. They made this badass lotus, and it of it was just the actual fiber, not even colored, the actual fiber of hemp. Brian, see if you could pull up a picture of that because it really is dope. Like Lotus hemp car. Did you know that Henry Ford's – is that your movie?

Is that your movie? No, that's not mine, but there's a little clip like that. I know about Henry Ford stuff. I think it was in the union. No, we do have an opening bit that talks big about hemp and not henry for his video is just that little clip that's up there on its own for folks who don't know henry ford's first car was made out of hemp like he made hemp body panels that you see that lotus for folks who are following us on ustream if you're not just just google uh hemp lotus there's a couple other pictures of this thing that maybe you could see a little clearer, Brian.

But what it is is they made a car instead of like Corvettes are made out of fiberglass, you know, and like really expensive cars. A lot of them are made out of carbon fiber. Well, this car is made out of hemp, and it's stronger than fiberglass. It's a natural product. It's lighter, too. It's a natural product. It's lighter, too. It's lighter. There's a car in Canada built called the Crestle that's an electric car that's all the interior and the majority of the body. That whole brown strip down the front, that's the actual hemp color.

Yeah. That's the actual fiber. It's so badass, man. And it's really fucking durable. It's a crazy plant. really fucking durable it's a crazy plant it's it's like you could get a stalk and it's really thick and it's light as fuck like you pick it up it like feels like nothing but it's so dense like it's really weird if no one's ever seen if you've never seen a hemp stalk before it really does feel like okay maybe this is an alien plant like maybe this is not like any plant i've ever come in

contact before if you pick up an oak log you know the thickness and the hardwood that feels like it's heavy as shit right well the hemp stalks feel like the hardness of an oak log but it's like really light it's weird it's like where the fuck did this thing come from it's it's great i mean we i we knew i knew nothing about pot and hemp when i started in the union i only wanted to do that's hilarious i mean we i we knew i knew nothing about pot and hemp when i started in the union i only wanted to do that's hilarious i just wanted to do like i said the x was a the bc industry and then when we discovered all these things that's why some people that really knew everything in there was like well like a lot of the activists like i knew everything in the union it was like yeah but oh how dare you me and like 99 of other people don't so there's a lot of people

that you know they think that everybody should catch up. Yeah. I knew all that stuff. And here's the kudos that even I didn't really, it really clicked with me when we were at Parliament Hill, is that how entertained they were, right? And there was four of them that weren't going to stay. They were going to be there for 15 minutes,

and they were going to leave. And they stayed throughout the whole film. And at the end, they were saying, they're like, I didn't know it would be that funny, and I didn't know it would be. And at the end, they were saying, they're like, I didn't know it would be that funny and I didn't know it would be... And Brett was like, well, that's the key to getting you to absorb information. It still has to be...

It's still a movie. It has to be entertaining. If it was just a blurb and it was like, here we are... Sometimes people forget that most people don't know that information. Most people don't. And you cannot tell the story without giving that information.

If you want things to be reached by a giant gang of people, you cannot assume that they already have this information. It's too potent. It's too important. It's too significant in the story. Well, that's why we're diving into the second one. We're going all out. And what is the second one going to get involved with?

The culture high. We're looking much more global this time. Like I said, looking at the cultural shift that's starting to happen with regards to the way people look at what do you accredit that you do you think the internet is responsible for that is that we yes the distribution of the truth about marijuana that's exactly that's actually a part in it we want to interview you know sean parker and some of those people like to talk about how the internet's even the playing field like remember in the union we have ronald reagan saying you know and i'm surprised these scientists haven't brought up this new

information that says that marijuana could be the most dangerous drug that is in use in our society today right when he said that in the 80s like unless you're going to go call a medical facility and pull their old records like you're like hey man that's that's president he's he must know he has a team that's giving him that information yeah and he's got Right. But now you can go on Google and you can look at, and of course you get the good with the bad. There's a lot of fake and haters, people going back and forth and saying this, but you know,

you can pick or choose through 10, 10 or more articles. And that's what we did in the union. We put all the links and stuff up there. So like, if you didn't believe what we said and like, Hey, we're filmmakers,

there's one or two little mistakes in there that we made. Absolutely. But if it got you to research it and start doing it that's a great movie because you're thinking about it after you've watched what were the factual mistakes that you missed oh they're very very slight it was like with the original declaration of independence it was actually the first two drafts not the one that's in the museum the one that's in the museum's made with hide but the first two drafts were written on hemp so it was a lot of us like clever were and then you know same with the 30 days of marijuana being in your system lester grinspoon the first ivy league doctor to come out and talk

about um the the real medical findings that he discovered he said it not always 30 days like if you smoke all the time and it's in your fat cells but it could be if you just smoke once in the first time there's a good chance in two weeks it wouldn't be in your system so so when you hear about a guy like nick diaz getting popped and he's got like the non-psycho active metabolites what does that mean that means like he's like barely got any weed in his system right yeah barely barely barely man i. I, I think that, uh, you know, if,

if they're going to, I mean, those guys go through so much pain and you've seen a lot of tragedy with the painkillers now. Like, I mean, a friend of mine, Derek Bugard,

who was, you know, an NHL enforcer, uh, for the New York Rangers, you know, had a, uh,

accidental mix. And I, you, you'd wish that there would be that alternative for pain. So maybe Nick Diaz is knuckles or sore. He hits people. He hits dudes a lot of times in a fight, accidental mix, and you'd wish that there would be that alternative for pain. So maybe Nick Diaz's knuckles are sore. He hits people. He hits dudes a lot of times in a fight, like more than anybody else.

They just don't stop, right? So, you know, maybe he's got arthritis in his hands or from training. If that's what he wanted to use, like... How about he uses it for whatever the fuck reason he wants to use it? But I'm saying even if that's... But that's my take on it now at this point. It's like, of course he should be able to use it for anxiety. Of course he should be able to use it but i'm saying even if that's my my take on it now at this point it's like of course he should be able to use it for anxiety of course he should be able to use it for insomnia of course he should be able to use it but really he should be able to use it for whatever the fuck he wants to use it for and this idea that there's any reason why it should be

illegal is just crazy talk it's crazy talk it makes you a nicer person it does it might make some people a little dopier, but guess what? It probably means they need to get their shit together. They're probably thinking a bunch of dumb, stupid shit when they're sober. When they're high, there's not much to spin around in there. Maybe it's good for them to feel stupid. Well, think about for pain. I'm sure you know fighters, Joe, that have taken the hard painkillers.

And then a lot of times they don't even realize. They've fucked up their whole careers because of that stuff. And they don't even know how addictive it is, right? The doctor says, take this for pain. They get hooked to it. So, I mean, just that, when I've seen in athletes, like they have to go through a lot of pain in these contact sports. Listen, man, I know a dude who was a really, like, completely clean guy.

He didn't smoke cigarettes. He rarely ever drank. He was really healthy and he was a professional pool player. He hurt his back and he got hooked on pain pills and became a complete, total mess and then died. I mean,

they literally took this dude's life. This dude got swamped up in that world of pills. He's younger than me and now he's gone. And I knew him. I knew him when he was totally healthy and I knew him when he was pills. And he's younger than me, and now he's gone. And I knew him. I knew him when he was totally healthy, and I knew him when he was gone. And that's crazy.

It's crazy. It's a sad thing. He was a proud, proud guy. And he would, like, fall asleep in a plate of mashed potatoes. Like, that kind of shit. And that's legal. You should see how many people I saw like that in the bar, Joe. Of course.

Like, you'd see it all the time. You'd see these beautiful girls come in. And then, like, four years later, they're like, hey. And you're like it's been a lot of the dancers and you're like hey oh my god like you look like you've died and come back to life already so sad those kind of drugs are so terrible they're so sad on your body it's just it's a shitty i wouldn't recommend owning a nightclub if someone if someone said to me like hey i'll do like i just i don't ever want to be in that business again. Yeah, that business is rough, man.

I'd rather be a struggling filmmaker that's working three jobs like I am than go back to that. Yeah, well, you're dealing with groups of drunks on a regular basis. And then seeing the sad stories like that or seeing times when a guy just got out of line and bumped into the wrong person and got smashed. Yeah, that sucks, too. I watched a guy get hit in the face with a bottle once. Never, you know, I never expected this to happen the way it happened. The way the guy hit the guy in the face, it was like there's no way he just did that for that reason. It was like nothing.

And this guy smashed him in the face, cut his face. And I remember thinking that, like, always be aware that it's possible that someone out there is so fucking crazy that they would do that for no reason like that oh that's why when i worked the door i never let someone get to the odd side of me or anything like that right and a lot of the times if someone's aggressive or their hands clench you don't see it i mean we would i always taught my guys like listen you're not supposed to strike and hit guys but if if you're really threatened right and some guy you're in a corner like you do what you got to do to look after yourself right we'll try to get there as fast as we can but i mean we had a doorman stabbed oh shit he got stabbed three times and probably the only time in your life you like to hear this they told them

they're like it's a good thing you're overweight because if you would have been an inch thick inch thinner it would have pierced major because the guy they got they threw these guys out the guys went out to the car, came back, and then they went at the doorman, and one of our doormen knocked the first one out. Then he went with the other one. He was tussling with him, and he said he put him down. And then when he put him down,

he saw the blade hit the ground and blood all over it. And then he thought he was getting punched in the side. And then he looked, and he was like, holy. It was just pouring out. I remember him telling this story that really scared me. He sat down, and he went to our other dorm and just being like if i pass out please make sure i get to the hospital because you don't know what's going to happen if your body's going to shut down or yeah like you know you might just faint out but you're you know so it's it's it's

shitty i i'd never want to another nightclub fuck that yeah there's just too many douchebags i can't keep it together it's too many people out there. Roadhouse. Really, at the, yeah, roadhouse. Pain don't hurt. Really, at the heart of it, at the bottom of it all, it's really people doing a shitty job of raising people. People doing a shitty job of having a community and doing a shitty job of

raising people. And what do you make? You make shit kids. Those shit kids grow up to be gigantic fucking problems. And if you run a nightclub, congratulations, you're the new babysitter. You're the new babysitter for the drunken douchebag. And then anything that they do, they're not held responsible. That's where we're going back to the responsibility thing. You're saying people should just be held to their actions for what they do.

Well, you can get them drunk and you can get sued if they crash their car. Not just that. They go out and fight or hurt someone or they attack our bouncers and then they get hurt on the way out. And yes, of course, there's other sides that were sometimes

the doormen are excessive. But there's times where a guy's so drunk that like you carry him out. You go to let him go and he stumbles and smashes his face on the concrete

and caves his cheekbone in. Right? I worked as a security guard at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts. It's like in Mansfield or something, Massachusetts. I think that's where it's at. And it's this outside performance area.

So it's like part of it is inside and part of it is, like, covered. But then there's a back area that's open that's like a lawn area. And I was security there. And we did it for a whole summer. And I tell you, man, after a while, you really develop this us versus them mentality. And it's really stupid, but I was 19. I was an idiot.

I shouldn't have been in that sort of a job in the first place. And the guy that I was working for was crazy aggressive. I mean, oh my God. I saw him on the first day I worked there tackle a guy and beat him with a walkie-talkie because the guy stole their golf cart. They had a golf cart they would drive around the Great Woods with.

So these guys tackled him, and they beat the shit out of this guy with a walkie-talkie. The dude was a classic. His name was Alley Cat, and he wanted to open up this bar. He had this dream. He was the head security guy with a dream, and his dream was to open up this bar, Alley Cat's Libations and Victuals. That was the title? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's tough marketing. Victuals is like a cool name for food. And Libations is like a cool old name for liquors and drink. And so that was his dream. And he was a crazy motherfucker. He ran the security thing. And it was me and a friend of mine who was on the same competition team, the same Taekwondo competition team. He got a job there, and they said,

do you have any of the other guys that are martial arts guys that want a job? And so they essentially hired all the top martial arts guys from this Jae Kim Taekwondo Institute, and they were all the security for this place. But I was like, this is the craziest idea ever there's like seven or eight people you know that have like these security jackets on and it's like fucking thousands oh yeah thousands of crazy assholes and i could always wear a jacket over my security jacket like i would just try to blend in as much as possible i'm like I'm way too short for this too. I'm only 5'8".

I can't be around big giant dudes with a security jacket on. That shit's ridiculous. I'm going to have to fucking punch and kick my way out of this. Well, I remember there'd be slow nights where you'd have a big rowdy sports team come in. And it'd be like the bartender, and you'd have one doorman on because it's a slow night or two and then you'd literally they'd be getting rowdy and starting to smash glasses and then literally we'd have to think like okay like be ready like get ready to jump over the bar if

you have to help right if these guys get to a point where they really want to because sometimes you say it can be so weird that you just politely ask them to do something and then they get super aggressive well i was and then and then you they then they just really look at size where they're like fuck there's like nine of us and we're all in good shape and there's only two or three of them like why do i have to respect this guy yeah it can get bad but what a lot of people didn't know was in a small town is a lot of like the people hanging out were really good friends with the staff they come there all the time so the odd times that that happened when i was doing it you'd have people jump in from outside right because they were so you like service the community more or less well you'd have friends that just they come and you know when they're regular you treat them good and then they'd come in and i'll tell you the one time

my dad was friends with a lot of the big mc guys and when they used to come in there was never a problem in the bar because everyone was worried about bumping into one of them or like you know some idiots wrestling and they fall into a table so like it was weird on those nights it would be it was usually the young like just starting to slang little yang bangers that think that they're all that and they have something to prove and they they're doing something for somebody else where they've got some kind of connection dude what a nutty gig for you, man. And to be only 23 years of age and having to handle all that? Oh, man.

My wife, that's why I married her. She was a trooper through that, too. How long did it last before you got rid of it? Oh, I had to get it. My dad passed away in 2003, and we were out of there by 2005. So for two years, you had to run that motherfucker. I had to get proper books because my dad didn't do proper books. Oh, no.

So to sell to a legit buyer, they wanted at least two to three years of books right i talked to my friend bad bobby yeah well that was what is some of the moved over the situation well trust me there's lots of bad bobbies coming around but my thing was like okay if i took a there's only one bad bobby you don't know bad bobby i gotta tell you i mean i mean bad but guys that would come with a cash offer right and then if there's a cash offer that sounds like bad Bobby yeah well but then but then in three years if it doesn't do the numbers they think and they say well I think you I overpaid I want some back right so that's like that's why I was like okay I don't want to go that option so try to work it out with a like a

childhood friend and then you know didn't do that right either because we didn't put everything on paper so i got screwed and had to start for i remember my my wife was eight months pregnant with riley my daughter and and uh we had negative four hundred dollars in our account and i needed forty five thousand dollars to finish the union and i didn't know where i was gonna get it suck that dick son did you think about it no think about if you can find a rich guy suck his dick for a million i was in get it suck that dick son did you think about it no think about if you can find a rich guy suck his dick for a million i was in new york and worked around those guys there'd be no way yeah what if you know like for whatever reason you got flown to john travolta's house no no no man i got bad stories about those magazine and you know man i did that stuff

in new york i lived in a model house in New York. So you did that stuff? Not that. I don't want to get you in anything you don't want to talk about, man. No, no, no. So just give me a nod. Shit gets too gay. Never, for the record, never did any gay shit. I'm sure you did. I'm sure you did.

But no, I lived in a model house because I used to work for Men's Fitness. I'm only fucking around. Thank you for not getting upset. Oh, I know. Why would I get upset? I've listened to your show. I've listened since you guys had snowflakes. I know what the show's about.

Yeah, well, we've hung out a bunch of times, man. It was fun, the UFC up in Vancouver. But right now, I don't think they can come back. Why? I think there's some problem with the regulatory. Well, I want to try to come see when you're in Calgary. There was some sort of ruling against MMA in Vancouver. What?

I'm trying to remember what the actual problem was. Yeah, let me Google this real quick. What is that all about? I don't know, man. You know, it's a fucking problem all over the world, dude. But they had two successful shows there. New York that want to see the UFC, and somehow or another it's been... Where am I Googling?

Do they still sell players' cigarettes in Canada? Oh, you bet. Wow, that's great. What am I Googling? Do they still sell players' cigarettes in Canada? Oh, you bet. Wow, that's great. What am I Googling again? I love it. Jesus Christ. UFC not going back to Vancouver. UFC Vancouver, right.

Well, you guys are coming to Calgary soon. That's not far from where I am. Well, eight-hour drive. I got so upset. All I could think of was Bob Riley. I started thinking about New York. I completely spaced on Vancouver because the New York thing drives me fucking crazy. I can't believe that.

It's so illogical, and it's so corrupt, and it's so gross. The people of New York would make a lot of fucking money if they came, if the UFC came to Madison Square Garden. It would be fucking huge. How about this? John Jones versus Anderson Silva or Anderson Silva versus George St. Pierre, something like that. Inside Madison.

Fucking Square Garden. Are you shitting me? Some cunts are keeping that from happening. That could fucking happen. What's the hole back there? Some cunts. I don't even want to name names. Political bullshit.

Nonsense. Culinary union. Fucking whatever, whatever. A lot of of corruption those people are getting greased the the desire of the people is getting ignored people want to have it in the state it generates money the amount of fans that they have in new york city alone is fucking through the roof everywhere you look there's a jujitsu school in New York. There's MMA gyms, boxing gyms. People are allowed to enjoy it. And for some asshole politician with some fucking backing by whatever creepy organization that's trying to keep this shit out, it's ridiculous because it violates the will of the people. Anybody that does that is a shit politician.

That's a sad statement. That's an anti-American thing to to do you're trying to keep something away from people that want it you're trying to block a business and you're trying to do it because you're in cahoots with a different business that should be illegal that should that's corruption i can't picture i it's not america be a mistake within our comeback to vancouver it's not american you're leaving vancouver for Calgary. When you guys are coming to Calgary, that's all good. I don't know, man.

I still want you in BC, but... Okay, here's the latest. Legislation opens door for Ultimate Fighting Championship. Okay, so this sounds good. Maybe I read that wrong. I can't pay attention to everything, folks. It's fucking impossible. I know.

People always go with me. Some people try to come up with the toughest questions about marijuana and be like, What do you think about this law that was passed in Missouri two weeks ago? And I'm like, man, sorry. I do my best to try to stay up to date on everything, but it is physically impossible. I don't know what's going on in Missouri. Okay, so they did stop it. know what's going on in Missouri. Okay, so they did stop it.

There was an introduction of a provincial law designed to break the deadlock over regulation and supervision of combat sports. So originally they stopped it, and now they're trying to figure out the correct way to regulate it. So you're just playing with our emotions, Jim.

No, it seems like they're opening the door to it coming back. I think people ultimately, they hear the will of the people, especially today. It's so popular in Canada. People don't even understand. It's hugely popular in America, way more popular in Canada. No, it's like in Canada, when there's a UFC, it's not like, are you watching the fights? It's like, where are you going to watch the fights?

Dude, we were at the fucking Rogers Arena, that gigantic Rogers Center, whatever it is. What is it called? Is it the Rogers Center? The crazy building. It's so big. There's a hotel inside of it. There's a hotel inside of it, and they used to play baseball indoors. That's how big this place is.

And it was filled. I don't know if they could do that in America. I mean, maybe they could. If it was George St. Pierre and Anderson Silva, I guarantee you they could do that in america but that's a big goddamn crowd no it's canada's nutty for it we and canada has less people yeah we're we're but i think that comes a lot with the hockey culture right there's been fighting in the hockey culture for years which is like our national sport i hate to say this but i think there's more fucking manly men per capita in canada Or more condoms.

I just think, you know, I think you come from a country, first of all, that has to survive the cold. And I think that's good for your character. I've always compared people that have it soft to people that had it tough. And you always see the people that have had it tough. The most interesting people that I know are all people that had it tough. People that have had like, the most interesting people that I know are all people that had it tough. You know, when you have it soft, it's easy to just come out fucking useless. Right?

They got those battle scars, even if they're not physical ones, right? The wounds of going through that. That's a lot of times people said, I have an old soul for. That's one of the gayest things someone can ever say to you. You need to get away from them because they're probably trying to fuck you. Right? If it's a dude, especially. It was a woman. It to get away from them because they're probably trying to fuck you. If it's a dude especially. It was a woman. She's definitely trying to fuck you.

Look at you, you handsome bastard. I was at a restaurant once and I actually heard that hack line, that old soul. A guy was reading a book. It was the weirdest thing, man. He was an actor that was in, I don't even want to say his name. Just some weird old actor that was in a bunch of movies and then he probably went crazy. So he's sitting by himself with a book, which is what you do at a restaurant

if you go to a nice place. And so there's this couple next to him. He just starts introducing himself. What are you doing? Sorry. Is that a glitch? Yeah. He starts introducing himself into their conversation

and talking to them. And then he's like telling this man that he has an old soul. That's lame. And I'm like, what? Now you're making me feel bad I man that he has an old soul oh that's lame and i'm like now you make me feel bad i use that choice of words no it's okay i mean it's look look you you you said what you mean you know it's not nothing wrong with it but i had a funny old soul story so yeah it drew up a funny funny image he like wore a bandana he's one of those assholes sit by himself eating dinner with a bandana on his head. Okay, what the fuck are you doing?

Reading a book. We used to get those guys in the nightclub, too. They'd come in and sit in the corner, read a book. It's like, really? It's probably the loudest, most annoying place to read. You're better off just to have a drink and stare at the girls. Well, some people like that, though. It's like some people like to work at Starbucks.

They want to hear people come in and come out. That I can understand, but a nightclub, like, boom, boom. We can't even hear yourself think. People like that shit are weird you know maybe people are weird dude i don't have to tell you you were running a goddamn strip club cocaine strip club connection at 23 years of age yeah how did you avoid uh getting sucked into the clutches of organized crime i just well i left originally when i was younger and went to new york and i wanted to get into the film industry and stuff like that so i i i just i don't know when i came back i never was much of a big drinker and wasn't into the party scene so i was luckily i didn't fall into

that that trap it was so the union was like the first thing you ever did really yeah the first thing i'd ever produced yes did such a fucking bang job of it, man. And you went to some real creepy places. You were sort of an investigative reporter in that movie. When you went to those places where you went to those underground... Train cars. Yeah, man. Explain that, because that's kind of crazy. Well, we knew the people that were busted in there, and obviously...

Explain what the situation was. Okay, well, for the people listening at home that know, there was 20 full-size, like, those square, they're not actual train carts, but they're the cargo carts that they put on the trains. And they'd actually buried them and connected them together so that if you were to look at them, they'd be, you know, five rows with two each way,

or, no, 10 rows with two each way. So, like, 20 full-size train carts buried underground, and they had a giant grow-op under there, and it was 10 miles in the mountain where there isn't a neighbor you want to hear the craziest part joe the guy that got that busted actually snuck in there and took pictures one night to show the cops oh no he didn't yes he did oh my god balls way up in the bush like way the fuck out there balls of adamantium oh man but yeah that that had 287 lights what is wolverine's bones adamantium that's how i always said it yeah yeah she's a sick i had balls to 287 lights and they were

both going to make just the growers that i knew in there were going to make half a million each one year oh my goodness yeah and so what happens now because it's it's not legal they got ratted so so what happened they got very lucky one not legal. They got ratted. So what happens? They got very lucky. One of them got nothing, got it totally wiped. The lawyer got her off. And the other guy just got house arrest and had to pay a big fine. Whoa. Yeah.

Canada is going at it gangster style. I like it. Well, because they also have a lot of money to fight it in court, right? Well, not only that, man. I think Canada is probably, it's very obviously been influenced by the policies of the United States. Definitely. And the United States has like, you know, they've set parameters for Canada and told them very specifically that they don't want them making marijuana illegal or making it legal, rather. I mean, it's been held up like a carrot, you know.

And whatever, you know, discussions we have, diplomacy, I mean, what kind of diplomacy do we have? We up like a carrot. And whatever discussions we have, diplomacy. I mean, what kind of diplomacy do we have? We're completely connected. I mean, we will never. Canada and the United States, it's so weird that we're two separate countries. Really, it is. Because we're connected. You can drive there.

Everywhere. The whole thing is drivable. Well, that's why I see we're close. I mean, not really. There's woods and shit. Well, where Kelowna is, Kelowna's right on a border there in the lake

and there's a lake in Asuius that's got... Half of it is in the US and half of it is Canada. So you can drive your boat out, right? That's crazy, man.

And they're there. You've got to pull out a passport? And they're there. Yeah, the Marine guys are like... All day long. Oh, that's so gross. That's so fucking North Korea, man.

And it's... Yeah, it's bizarre when you think about but there was guys i knew from klona that were smuggling they'd get these one-body submarines and go underneath it so they could get oh my god yeah it's so gangster submarines jesus christ it's it's literally if you see klona it's like it's it looks they're the rock stars like if they're doing well especially in the late 90s when the u.s dollar was like 55 cents on the canadian dollar and they were getting like 4500 us a pound

and then that was transferring to like 6000 canadian wow they were making a killing it's amazing man and in in colona and like in bc a lot we said, it's like one in seven is what the economist said of like living dwelling units or one in 100 has it. And then the grow-ups, like when you say they're in the almost, you see them- One in 100 has it. Has a potential grow-up in it. So every hundred houses is one house that's a grow-up. Yes.

And what is the one in seven? The one in seven in certain blocks in like outer small towns of where there's grow-ups in these farms. Then it's one in seven in those blocks in like outer small towns of where there's grow ups in these farms and it's one in seven in those areas oh my god there's been small towns that they've done articles on that literally the town had nothing everything was dry then some guys came up there the big grow up they're paying all the guys to do construction good cash and of course that's the whole thing of why this union evolved because like the guys building the shed or the electrician setting up the lights that's not illegal right as long as you're not stealing the power right so if he gets come to

wire it all and the guy's like oh here here's six grand cash call it even well of course even the electrician's like sweet not thinking to declare all that right right so there's a like a love hate relationship that's built around the business of it right which we break down in the union raveling on about that no it's it's a real strange sort of a situation because it's much, much more illegal in certain parts of America. Like, if you had to try to run an operation like that in Texas, they'll fucking get you, man.

They'll come and get you. Don't mess with Texas. I lived in Texas, too. But it's a shame. I fucking love Texas, man. Texas is one of my favorite places to visit. I did my first CD in Houston. Yeah.

I did my first. That's where I lived in Houston. I did my first DVD in Austin. I mean, I fucking love Texas. But make no mistake about it, there's some, that's a really fucking suppressive situation that you have there when it comes to marijuana in Texas. Yeah. Like, if you get caught with medical marijuana, if you're like some dude with a prescription you could still get in trouble there like they don't respect i wouldn't want to

be doctor's recommendation or anything nonsense like you got some drugs on you boy i don't want to hear no faggotry about your fucking prescription you ain't getting no prescription here in texas yeah don't mess with other than that it. Meanwhile, everybody could use some weed. If all of Texas, it's the irony of it all, is that if all of Texas had weed, the cops' jobs would be way fucking easier. Way easier. That's a fact, man. People would chill out.

They would get all paranoid and shit, and they'd do less crime because of that. And then they would also just be a little bit more sensitive to what the fuck is actually going on, what are the repercussions of your evil actions out there robbing people settle the fuck down dude they've already proven that it's had a

decline in automobile accidents in places where marijuana medical marijuana is legal I can't wait to dive into the cult, like for me that may or may not be true, because you know what, I did no research on that whatsoever I just read it online so I can't wait to dive into the cult. Like for me. That may or may not be true. Because you know what? I did no research on that whatsoever. I just read it online. Well, that's a.

So. I can't wait. Caution. Yeah. A study done by. It doesn't mean. Dr. Rogan. Absolutely doesn't mean that I'm endorsing smoking pot and driving.

Some people can't handle life. Okay. So I'm not. I would never say that everybody is the same when it comes to tolerance of aspirin, alcohol, coffee. I've seen it with alcohol. the same when it comes to tolerance of aspirin, alcohol, coffee. I've seen it with alcohol. I've seen it with everything. You can never tell anybody to do anything because some people can't do shit.

Some people are binge eaters. You give them one little piece of sugary something and they'll go crazy. It's a voracious thing. I've watched people polish down ice cream sundaes that shouldn't have had an ice cream sundae. And it's like, wow. It's orgasmic like this guy's like fulfilling some just deep hole inside of him with this this is like sexual almost like he's fucking this ice cream you know what i mean well it's tough like when you look at junk like i wish you know when you go look at something for me i'm a

pastry guy because my grandmother was italian right so like i when i see that stuff like oh i could just eat a tray of it right like and then what do you what is your shit do you like um all those napoleons man you know the three-layered chocolate with the chocolate top that was one of my favorite from my grandmother oh those were my i just called them the three-layer cookie those i used to eat those things oh my that was the only time i'm gonna get mad is when she'd save them for the big christmas parties and i go in and raid them and go to lay out the tray spread for all the family. And there'd be like six left.

All those. My grandmother used to make these other ones that had like a black licorice. They were like a little biscuit that had like an icing that was slightly black licorice. That anise or whatever. You know what someone fucked up and forgot to bring to the West Coast? What? Good rice pudding. See, I always have a bad thought about rice pudding because I haven't had good rice pudding.

When I lived in New York, we used to go to little diners you'd like to eat. If I was doing stand-up or something, I'd stop at a diner, these little diners. They all had a cheeseburger deluxe. The cheeseburger deluxe was usually two patties. They would give you some coleslaw with it and for dessert, if you wanted to, they had a little glass thing with like, that cake looks good.

What's that over there? You guys got any rice pudding? Yeah, we got some rice pudding. Rice pudding and whipped cream and it's fucking ridiculously delicious. It's so good and you can't find it out here. It's real rare that you see rice pudding. It was so common on the East Coast.

Yeah, I don't, that's not, mine has always been the pastries. My grandmother made everything homemade. Homemade bread, homemade jam. You're a healthy dude. Do you watch what you eat?

Now I'm getting back out. I just started on the isogenics actually to get back in shape here. What is isogenics? It's like the, it's protein shakes. Are you in Scientology now?

No, no. That's not isogenics? No, no, no. It's the weight loss thing. So like, because I got up to 224 at six foot and I'm like,

I'd be fighting Cain Velasquez right now. Oh, my God. And that's like, I'm like, hell. Not that my ideal weight that I want to get down to is 190. Not that that would be much better, because it would be Anderson Silva. But the way I really think like that. Guess what? You don't have to fight any of those guys. And if you did, the weight wouldn't matter.

Yeah. But you see, what I think with the Anderson is at least it would just be like a ninja finish. Bang, he finished me before I could breathe. Kane, I just picture this savage brutalizing before it would be like a slam and a crunch. And he never gets tired. I'd be a mangled pretzel. His dismantling of Bigfoot Silva was really disturbing. Because everybody knew before Kane ever came to the UFC.

Everybody in the know knew about this kid, the former Arizona State wrestler who they would say was tearing it up at AKA. They're like, this guy is a beast. I mean, I heard a bunch of guys talk about it. Chael Sonnen, who is pretty fucking honest with praise or criticism when it comes to fighters, said everybody knows the best heavyweight in the world is Kane Velasquez. This is before he ever fought Brock for the title.

And so when he mauled Brock, the people in the know were like, wow, yeah, that guy's for real. Which makes Junior Dos Santos' fight and victory over him in the first round even more staggering. Junior is such a bad motherfucker, man. For real. It's just so exciting now with all the great guys that are there. I could watch every weekend.

I'm so pissed off the Ream fight didn't happen. That would be a really fantastic fight because that would be one of the first fights where a guy wants to stand up with him. Yeah. And that's where it gets really crazy because guess what? Junior can take guys down too, man.

He took Shane Carwin down. Well, that's why it'd be interesting to see what happens if DeSantis gets taken down. I know he's trained, but I haven't seen him yet. Yeah. You know, he's such a fucking great athlete, man. Junior has some amazing hand speed. Amazing.

He's really, really going to be hard for a lot of guys to deal with because he has an advantage over almost everybody when it comes to the thing that's the easiest to land, which is your hands. You know, it's hard to kick somebody. You know, it's real hard when you're worried about guys taking you down, too. You know, it's especially hard if the guy's a real good wrestler. It's hard to get those kicks off.

But, you know, when you're nervous and you're not sure with your footing yet, you don't have your timing down yet, you're not going to throw a wheel kick. Okay? You're going to throw a jab. kick. You're going to throw a jab. You're going to throw a jab. Well, Junior's jab is like you getting caught in the end of a telephone pole. Thunk! And he throws

that shit perfect. Thunk! Right in your face. He pops you a couple times on the chin with that shit. You're still in the fight, but you're significantly diminished. Well, I was there for the Carwin fight that was in Vancouver, right? I watched that. That was just like bang, bang.

Amazing. Amazing performance. Amazing. Carwin's face stayed together. Carwin is a beast, dude. That guy is so fucking tough. If that didn't convince everybody, he could have quit in between rounds. His face was smashed up.

They could have called that fight. They could have called that fight. I thought they were going to call it earlier. He looked like he was going to come close. He's just so fucking tough, man. He is just so fucking tough. He's an animal, man. He's a tough, tough dude and a nice fucking guy, too.

Shane Carlin is one of the nicest people you could ever meet. Super friendly, genuinely nice to everybody he meets. The Beast. I've heard you talk on the podcast, Joe. It seems right too because i mean i had a boxing background and you know when you go in there even the best guys have taken a licking right and they know what that feeling's like and to get challenged in there and you can get caught on any given night that you are more humble because you go work it out and you've been

through there and i like to go like i i went to go try uh jujitsu for my first time a few months ago and you know because i did boxing and boxing and fought and stuff when I was younger. I'm so enthralled by it. I watch these young kids on YouTube now that are doing jujitsu moves and slamming guys. Have you seen the headbutt knockout of the kid on the one? I've seen every fight that's ever been thrown in there. I got a problem, dude.

It's like a little ninja kid. You've seen this one. The guy has his shirt up. If you type W into my browser, WorldStarHipHop comes up. Okay, that's how many fights I've seen. That's the first thing Google Chrome says, oh, bitch, I know where you're going. What's your first Twitter?

Because mine's like, for some reason, it's like something I used to tweet a long time ago, but I haven't been on that for a long time. But for some reason, that's always the first one. If I hit T, it comes up Twitter, but then it's like backslash something. I don't – I shouldn't. Oh, really? So like it will come up like weird, like a page that you never visit before?

No, I – Or rarely visit? I used to visit all the time, an ex-girlfriend. Yeah, that does happen sometimes, right? Yeah, it's an ex-girlfriend. But every time I press T, it's the first one that comes up. I'm like, Jesus. Because you're a stalker.

You don't realize it. In the back of your head. I think it has something with the cloud. I think it's in the cloud. You know what I mean? It's the first one that comes up. I'm like, Jesus. Because you're a stalker. You don't realize it. I think it has something with the cloud. I think it's in the cloud. You know what I mean? It's because I use Safari or something. Oh, yeah, probably. Does Safari take its cookies from the cloud, too? Probably.

I don't know. Who the fuck knows? I don't know. I don't understand that. We're all... Don't ask me. Don't ask me. This is what we've got to do, people.

I'm sure I can figure it out. We've got to all be nice to each other because we're getting absorbed. We're all going to be one thing. It's happening. It's happening right now. And we've got to learn to be nice to each other. Learn to do your fucking part here. Pull your own goddamn weights because we are one crazy thing.

And that shit is slowly being brought to light technologically. Oh, man. Look at the funny story today. Or not. Maybe. I just fucking got high and made that shit up and read some Ray Kurzweil

and got all excited. I think I was on, getting on the plane today from Vancouver. What's her name? She was Kelly Taylor on 90210, the blonde,

Janine Garth. Jenny Garth. Jenny Garth. I was looking. I was like, I think that's her. And then I looked on, I went online, right?

And I'm like, what does she look like now?'m on my phone i'm like okay and i look and then and then i saw on her twitter it said that she just wrapped filming a movie in canada so i was like okay that's her so then i said oh like i tweeted like oh it's like i'm in i'm in uh yvr and i see this blonde i think i know it looks familiar and i find out it's her oh she still looks beautiful for her age and then but oh why'd you say the age part you could have got but no i didn't say age i just said beautiful actually i just said beautiful i said still looks beautiful no age didn't fit you can check my twitter but dare you yeah no no because i tweeted her in and then she tweeted tracking motherfucker then yeah no you can check it's there for evidence i believe you i believe you right

i fucked my own quotes up all the time And then she Yeah but then I see Or I put her in it And then she was like Oh hey you must have been on my flight Haha thank you Like and I was thinking about that Like weird like You know you never had that connectivity

Like right there You know if you You made contact with a star If you were a big fan of 90210 That would have Could have made your year Just by going through Have you followed up?

Have you So what's up? I'm trying to get Nothing's up with me. Trying to get freaky with my girl? No, man. Married, two kids. There's no freaky with her.

I feel like, of course, we're just joking. There's nothing wrong with going to the Olive Garden with a beautiful woman. I feel like for some reason, I felt like she had a talk show that maybe I was going to be on.

I don't know if I did it, but I did the Donnie Marie show. You did a lot of shows, man. When I was on news radio, we would do as many shows as they would ask us to do because our show was not doing that well in the ratings. So I wound up doing the Donny and Marie show. I did it twice.

I did it with Chastity Bono before she became Chaz. Really? Yeah. Man, I love hearing that story. What's that? Before or after, which one felt best? I didn't see her. I never met her after.

But it was fascinating. I was listening to him now talk about the effect that turning hormonally into a man has had on what he likes and doesn't like. It was really interesting. Yeah, really fascinating. And that mindless babble became incredibly irritating to him, whereas he enjoyed it when he was female. Whoa. As he made the...

So it's not just a stereotype you're saying. Come on, man. It's silly. It's real clear in almost all primate cultures that men and women are different. You've got to accept whoever the fuck we are. Just don't try to change each other. Accept the fact that we're

absolutely completely different things and just be nice to each other. That's not always easy. It's fucking hard, man. That's the hard thing. It's like, we have to admit, first of all, we're in a corrupt system.

So we have to figure out how to fix that without arresting every single fucking human being that's in power and every facet of government that could be responsible and corrupt we have to figure out a way to make this system make like more sense like this is not like the right kind of system like this seems like too complicated

this whole representative government thing i mean i don't know how you guys rock it up in canada how you uh you know how you feel about uh special interest groups Do you have a scene? Well, no, you can't. In politics in Canada, you can't have big business give them money like they can in the U.S. You can't do that. It's like the maximum they can take from one company is like, I don't know the numbers correctly,

but it's not very much. Don't make a motherfucker move to Canada, dude. I know you're a Canada fan. You bring it up. It's the best country, man. When I go there, I always tell people it's like 20% less douchebags. It's like I never understand why people can't be that cool in America. It's weird.

One of the big differences I see now living in the U.S. and then coming here is there seems to be a bit more care in Canada. I hear lots in the U.S. It's like, well, if he didn't make it well fuck him it's his it's my right and you know instead of being like yeah but if everybody's not doing well and your neighbor you're like fuck your neighbor well you know if you run out of power and shit it's the fan they need help well is it going to be fuck your neighbor then no it's gonna be like hey can we help each other out so man ambition is very good but ambition without compassion is empty it's nonsense that. That's ridiculous. That's

like not, that's not the proper use of your karmic resources because, you know, you gotta, you gotta have like a nice community. You gotta be happy when, you know, when you're doing well and when he's doing well and everybody enjoys each other's company. And that's why you, you know, you create a community. That's what the whole idea is that we could all do that if we accepted every one of us as if it was us leading another life well it's you know all that shit that's why we it's illegal man you start thinking like that joe we'll start i i'll tell you from listening to your guys show from the beginning and seeing what you guys have built up you and brian i mean this amazing community that supports each other

the other comedians when people are on you let them pull plugs for their stuff. And you see how well you guys are doing. I've seen when you guys had your first one, it was snowy screen, and it was all over the place. Now, when the kind of people, I genuinely look forward. When you had Ricky Ross on here, talking about this was fascinating. I can't wait to hear this.

Did you see Graham Hancock? Oh, man, that's one of my favorites. 142, I know it off by heart. I'm always like, oh, how dare you. Have you been paying attention to this object in the bottom of the Baltic Sea?

I got it because of you, right? I follow through. Your tweets are the ones I look through the most. Well, I'm just a portal, sir, because people deliver it to me first. They know if they send me something weird, it gets out there.

That's what I mean. Through your podcast, some people know, right? They know that you're doing that kind of stuff. It's the power that you have. I mean, even just the first couple times you retweeted me when I was building my Twitters, like up a couple thousand followers because retweets, like boom. People are like, oh, it's a union guy.

And then it goes. That's awesome. Beautiful. The first time you retweeted me because I'm like, check out this article. And you're like, yeah, I retweeted my phone all day. I was like, what's wrong? I'm like, Twitter. That's when i finally got into it i was like oh i see how this works now and started yeah going through well you can create a little

community like i mean for the most part and this is not bullshit almost all the tweets i get are positive you do get a lot of positive people they're really nice people and you you sort of can kind of cultivate that i mean you're gonna run across the occasional yeah well we we we grumpy pants. On a smaller level, we did that for the union. I mean, we built this Facebook page with no money or anything like the studios have that has like 40,000 people that follow it. That's nice.

And they always, like when right now we're doing this. Well, there's a real meme to it. Excuse me, Ari Shafir. What's going on? Dressed like a crazy person, just walking in on a podcast. What's up, brother? Come have a seat, man. Jump in. What's going on? Dressed like a crazy person. Just walking in on a podcast. What's up, brother? Come have a seat, man. Jump in.

What's up, my friend? How are you, buddy? Give me a hug. What the hell is up with you? Ari Shafir, ladies and gentlemen. What the hell is up with his face? My man. My man.

We met in Vancouver. Hey, what's up, dude? Is this podcast over? What the fuck's going on? It's only 9.15. Yeah, we just started 9.30. Okay, that's cool. Ari, sit down and join us, man.

So you have a Kickstarter for your new film, which is The Culture High, and they can find it at kickstarter.com. And is this trailer worth checking out? Yeah, the trailer's really good. We worked hard on it. How could you say is it worth checking out? Well, I didn't know if it was very long.

It's only like four minutes. Silly. Silly. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined.

Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. In 2007, a small independent documentary unveiling the breakdown of marijuana prohibition entered the North American film festival circuit. The Union, the business behind Getting High, would find itself accepted into 33 international film festivals in the span of a year.

The film went on to win numerous awards and garner critical acclaim across the globe. With little to no support from big studios, the union stormed the internet realm, reaching out to millions of viewers. Witnessing this overwhelming response, the filmmakers took it upon themselves to evolve the documentary from a simple motion picture into the beginnings of a movement. And so, the union's social networking Facebook page was born,

quickly growing to serve over 35,000 active users. Armed with groundbreaking numbers on what many had said to be a dead topic, distributors and broadcasters were forced to take notice. Five years after conception, the union and the issue of cannabis prohibition was launched into the mainstream as the film was released into video stores, universities and media outlets across the world. With newfound exposure, the film went on to claim the attention of Canada's highest level of government as it was chosen to be screened on Parliament Hill in order to educate senators and members of parliament on the ramifications of marijuana prohibition. The rest is history.

Now in the twilight of a public shift of awareness, the union's makers have set into motion plans to create what they hope to be the most prolific and relevant marijuana documentary to date. The follow-up film to the union, entitled The Culture High. Having had six years to grow, to adopt new stories, new heroes, new villains, and an entirely evolved insight into society and who we are as a human species. The Culture High will break down the boundaries that prevent marijuana prohibition from being stripped down to its very core.

Are we least effective when lost in the emotion of group mentality? Has the emergence of the internet equalized the political playing field? The Culture High will raise the stakes with some of today's biggest celebrities, gain access to previously unattainable footage, and reveal incredibly moving testimonies from both sides of the spectrum. The Culture High is the documentary that will tear into the very fiber of the longest fought war of our time. But in order to make this documentary come to fruition, we need your support.

By August 1st, we must raise $190,000 to kickstart the remaining funding necessary to produce this film. What we seek from you is not charity, but the pre-pledged support of your copy of the film. It's that simple. You pre-purchase your DVD copy of The Culture High for $35, and by doing so, you will give the film the ability to be made in the first place. That's brilliant. That's a great idea. The Kickstarter thing alone is like the way to go for all these projects. Well, this is a great way to do it because you have a great track record. Like I said, your first piece.

If you haven't seen it, folks, go out and get it. If you can, if you're not fucking starving, please pay for it because Adam's a good dude and it's a really well done piece. It took a long time. I know you. It was a labor of love for a long time. Four years in total. I never thought about it, man.

We did it and then it was a while after that before it actually got released. How long was it? Two years. We were done in 2007 but it didn't come out until 2009 because we couldn't get a distribution deal. We didn't know how, right? It was our first time. Now, this time, with the culture high, we already have a theatrical deal in place. Well, we have to pay for it. That's what the gap is.

Are you going to be in the movie movies? Yeah, yeah. In America or in Canada? No, no, America. Really? The Phase 4 films that picked up Kevin Smith's Red State, they're doing the distribution. So instead of Abraham Lincoln, the vampire hunter, you could go see The Culture Hive? You won't get, we'll get only two days unless it sells out and then it'll stay a week.

But are you going to be able to go to those mainstream cinemas that play? Well, they distribute, it'll be with, say, whoever it's AMC or whatever, and then they'll pick their certain locations. Does that work, though? I mean, if you have a crazy, controversial documentary like that, does that get censored? No, it doesn't get censored. But the hard part is getting the money for it.

I'm saying, does it get censored? Does it keep you from being in certain malls? Oh, definitely. There's certain countries that wouldn't even touch my thing because of its subject. Certain territories are just like, no, it's about that. In Canada? No, not in Canada, but in certain markets.

It would never be on Air Canada's flights, right? I wasn't sure if you said counties or countries. No, countries. Territories, right? If you sell certain parts of Europe, that's where I saw in the distribution game, I'm like, wow, so there are going to be certain types of films that just don't get out there, so that culture won't see it. They know if it's an action or whatever, ones they're just not allowed they won't certain

areas like don't even sell me that i'm like could you put it in like an amc multiplex cinema that's what those in america yes with all the regular movies like the avengers and right next to the it might be one of the small like say there's two mc two amcs it'll probably be the smaller one and one one of them smells like feet and that's the one yeah Yeah, yeah, that's all those fuck still for a doc. That's so hard to do right so yeah But but if you do them like this word like what you guys have done where you build this community that follows and you make Sure that the few dates that they come out are targeted in targeted areas and the people go see them then it makes sense Well, you know this is also a community that would want to support something like this. So, you know, them being able to see that video and say, hey, man, I would love to get

a copy of that and, you know, have the pride. And it's a nice feeling to know that, you know, you purchase something that you actually want and you allowed something to get made because of the fact that you purchased it in advance. You gave like, you know, a vote of trust, which is, you know, I mean, you're an honorable man. It's a worthy investment. I know you're going to put out a good product.

So it's cool the way you're doing it. I like it. I like it. You know, it's a good sentiment. Well, in our first eight days, we've raised 58,000 bucks. Damn. In the first eight days. That's amazing. Well, the support has been phenomenal.

Like even it shocked everyone. Even Todd was like, dude, he's like, everybody in the marijuana industry. How much do you need to make total? $190. $190. And you're already at? We've got 35 days to go. We're almost $57,000.

There it is right there. You have an arbitrary number of days to go on this thing? Is that what it is? Kickstarter makes you have to do it because then you can just always be kind of accepting money from people. Oh, right, right, right. And then it's all or nothing, nothing right we have to hit the whole goal right or we get nothing when you get to 190 you stop pardon when you get to 190 no you can go over which is great if we go over then we can put it into more theaters are there laws now on begging

for money on the internet do they have like very specific laws like you're not allowed to you know to fuck people over too much, asking for money on the internet? You probably can't defraud people. Yeah. That's the one thing, and then just go to Vegas. Yeah. You can't probably defraud them.

Well, that's the thing. Kickstarter has a good way that they have to approve your project and approve you. You don't just get to put it up there. Well, you could also make a Kickstarter fund my lifestyle for a year. Oh, yeah. Yeah, if you did a good enough video and people wanted to do yeah there's not just for docs there's people that are creating like video games or they have a new watch and you pre-buy the watch right and you get it or i have a kickstarter to make a new kickstarter type kind of website how long before how you how dare you how long before

these google lenses these google goggles will be uh a subscription service where you can pay to look through someone's eyes. Hopefully soon. That's going to happen, right? Technology keeps happening. How much would it be worth to look through Tom Cruise's eyes for a day? I would pay $2,000. Oh, you know some celebrity would sell that for sure, right? How much does a gay porn cost? I would take a chance

I would take a chance that the day iTunes is a day he decides to just break his fast and suck a cock. I would take a chance that the day I tune in is the day he decides to just break his fast and suck a cock I would wouldn't it be nice if he could just come out wouldn't it be beautiful that's what

I loved do you think he's gay oh Borat made fun of him when he's like oh I realized all these major guys are straight right

and it showed guys that clearly have reputations for it's so weird man remember when Rock Hudson was gay? Yes. And it was like, what?

Devastating to people. And then afterwards it was like, oh yeah, of course. And I gotta tell you, if Tom Cruise is not gay, he is the victim of the worst fucking horrendous smear campaign ever. Him and Travolta. And you've just become a part of it. Yeah. It's so funny.

Well, I'm denying that part right now and I'm apologizing for my ignorance. And how do I know what the fuck he does? Jordan had a great joke about it. About Travolta reaching out ignorance and how do I know what the fuck he does? Norton had a great joke about it. About Travolta reaching out and grabbing that guy's cock. What did he say?

First he fondled his balls. The guy said, first he touched my balls. Yeah. And then he reached out and grabbed my... And then? What are you talking about?

No, no, no, no, no, no. And then minutes later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he said. And then minutes later. What do you mean minutes later? The fuck are you talking about minutes later?

You're still in the room, you asshole? The guy just grabbed your dick minutes later? You're still in the room, you asshole? The guy just grabbed your dick. Norton was on the last podcast. He was fucking amazing. My friend listened to it. He said it was hilarious. I'm so happy that Norton exists.

He's one of those guys. I'm so happy there's a Norton. He was so funny. When he was going over his different perversions, I was crying laughing. He's so entertaining to me. The way he's so honest about it and the way he, like, relishes it. Like, you're getting to experience it through him.

You know, like, how he liked girls' ass. Just a little stinky. Just a little. Not a terrible smell. Just a little smell. A little smell. I like a little smell. He's like, he's so funny.

I like underarms. He likes a little feet smell. He likes when girls' feet smell a little bit. I love Adrian. He's a crazy guy, man. I love him. It's so nice that there's a guy like Jim Norton. You know, where would you be without comedians, R. Shafir?

Without comedians? Yeah, if you were forced to hang out with the average folk. Oh. You know, if you didn't have a guy like Jim Norton in your life. If you didn't have a guy like Joey Diaz in your life. I don't know. I'd just be bored. You really, ever stop and think about that?

I realized this recently. I thought of this yesterday, I think, where I was like, I don't really have any friends that aren't comedians. Wow. I got to make some friend friends. I have jujitsu friends. I have quite a few friends that aren't comedians. You hang out with them or just at jujitsu?

Well, at jujitsu. Well, some of them I hang out with them. few friends that aren't comedians. Hang out with them or just at Jiu-Jitsu? Well, at Jiu-Jitsu. Some of them I hang out with them. And then I have some pool friends that are just, what the fuck is that? Oh, the Nazis.

Looking at you, man. The Nazi. The Nazi zombie zoned in on our Jewish friend, Ari Shafir. How rude of the Nazi zombie. This is creepy, man. Imagine if that shit was real life. Imagine if that was what you had to deal with out in the streets. Just this? Nazi zombies?

Just fucking Nazi zombies everywhere, man. Trying to eat you. We're so lucky. We're so soft. Everywhere we go, we just drive around in our cars, listening to satellite radio. Complain if our internet's not fast enough on our phone. The fuck?

This is slow. Meanwhile, we could be living in that movie. What the fuck? This is slow. We could be living in that movie. What's that TV show where everyone's walking dead? Walking Dead. That could be real, man. It could have happened 10 minutes ago. We just don't know it yet.

Do you know him? Yeah, we met once at a restaurant. We met in Vancouver. Okay. When you guys did Yuck Yucks that time. Yeah. That place is awesome. What is it called now? Didn't you just do that recently?

It's called the Comedy Mix. What happened to your hair? Ari Shafir pummeled that place. You have a chaplain. He's looking sexy. Ari Shafir is looking sexy. That's what happened. Zombie Hitler here.

That's what happened. He's just being the fabulous Ari Shafir. You're fabulous as fuck, dude. Look at you. You're rocking it. I love it. It's so creepy. I like what you're doing.

It's perfect. Just go straight to nothing? Not fuck around for three days? Yeah. Ridiculous. You need to hang out at Starbucks and just sit there and read something. Have you been doing some road gigs, man? Yeah.

I'm going to Ottawa where you just showed in your documentary. I'll be at that place. Nice. It's beautiful there in the summer. And the archfair will also be with me and Duncan Trussell in Calgary. And I think that is, what is that, July 20th? It's July 20th is the date. And then the next day starts Shroomfest 2012.

Oh, snap. Who's fighting in Calgary? The UFC and Shroomtech together. Shroomfest. Bring your battle robes. Wait UFC and Shroom Tech together. Shroom Fest. Bring your battle robes. Wait a minute. Bringing it back to Shroom Tech. Yeah, those will give you very different performance enhancements there.

I expect everyone at the UFC to be on mushrooms. Every fighter must test positive or you're queer. Can you imagine if there was like a day that you had to do it? Is it mushrooms or fight? No matter what. Everything you do, the whole culture just agrees. There's only one way to get through this. 100% of us have to do mushrooms on this day.

That way nobody's vulnerable. Nobody drives around. From the period of 12 noon to 8 p.m., there is no fucking activity done. Get everything you have to get done before 12 noon. Then everybody in the whole fucking city takes mushrooms. Wow. That would be amazing. A beam of light would just go straight up to heaven.

Yeah, we would all evolve 100 years in one day. 100 years. Remember how nice people were after 9-11? Everybody was like, especially in New York, people were super friendly. It jolted a bolt of humanity into people. They wanted to be kind. They wanted to appreciate each other because they really did realize that, wow, we really are at war

and fucked up things can happen at any moment right now. Just hug somebody and say you love them and be nice and be friendly. This would be like that. It did unite the nation for a while, for sure. The Mushroom Day would be like that times a million. Yeah, it would. It would be like that times a million. And I'm not bullshitting.

If people who haven't, and people who don't agree with me, the only reason why you don't agree with me is if you've never done mushrooms. Because if you did do mushrooms and you thought about it and you thought of

how crazy the experience was and how much it is a shared experience when you do it with other people that do mushrooms. Drink? Share experience?

No, no, drink. I just realized that you were doing the mushroom talk. Any mushroom talk at all is drink? No, no, no, everyone just realized that you were doing the mushroom talk. Any mushroom talk at all is drink? No, no, no. Everyone needs to do mushrooms. I think together one day, it's not going to hurt anybody.

That would be the greatest holiday of all time. One day, the whole population does mushrooms. In the meantime, 2012, July 21st, 22nd, or 23rd. Shazam. So the Mayan calendar was off by several months, bitches. The porter will be open July 21st. Where will you be? We're doing a shooting festival in Montreal.

Oh, Jesus Christ, son. What are you doing? Have you been to Montreal before? Yeah. Montreal's a cool city. You're going to lose Ari that weekend. Me and Brandon and a bunch of other people doing mushrooms. I think the Canada ones, I've got a couple more coming up, too,

if you want to do any more of them. I love Canada. The other ones. You want to do Toronto? You're going back to... I'm going to be there at the same time. Oh, shit, son! So is Tom and Brenda.

So you have a show at the same day that I have my show? I think around the same time. Do you think you could bolt over from one to the other and do both places? Probably. Would they get mad at you? As long as they don't announce it. Hey, don't tell anyone. It's on the internet nobody heard it um either way uh i will drag i can't get joey up there but i'll get i'll come regardless to hang out yeah it should be amazing man

that uh massey hall is the fucking coolest old building too man it's like a really historical place in toronto it's uh it's one of those places where you find out other people that have played there you're like wow it's just like i don't even feel like i should be allowed to walk around here man forget about actually go on stage this is like a historical monument that's how i felt at parliament hill like i thought it was a joke i thought at any time they're gonna come out and say okay we punked you did they laugh at my shit man they loved it they laughed they laughed when i Yes. Did you leave in all my bad words? Everything.

You played the union for Parliament? Yeah, in Parliament Hill. In the clip there, we're in a square room. Really? You're a bad motherfucker. That's amazing. Me and Brett were just waiting to get attacked. And then when we started talking about politicians and kind of the corruption, how it works,

we were like, ooh, how are they going to? But they were giggling and laughing. Wow. They were probably all on drugs. No, no, now, Erwin Kotler, I smoked pot right outside there and I got really nervous.

That's hilarious. Trust me, the building, when you walk in, the security was worse than the airport, right? Like, it actually picked up the titanium in my jaw.

Wow. Right? So they were like, oh, beep, beep. Did it pick up the steel in your balls? No, it didn't pick that up. That's a new

animantium shit. Undetectable. That dropped that it's amazing that you pulled that off man it's amazing that seeing that seeing those people sitting there watching that video it's really bizarre to me you see my face on that screen is really strange that's a strange thing trust me for us too sitting there like right next i had an mp right next to me three conservatives over here senator art because i'm gonna be honest with you man when you came over my house your friends with todd i'm like oh who's the fuck's gonna watch this thing yeah i'm like yeah i'll do your documentary this would be just like all the other documentaries i did that nobody saw i did like 20 of those things nobody i probably said the same fucking thing there's probably someone over 20 copies in circulation shit on the cutting floor somewhere from some other shitty documentary

that I did where I said the exact same shit. I'm so repetitive. It's ridiculous. When it comes to that subject. That's why you need to do mushrooms. Nerf the world, bitch! It also clicks. It's all in how you edit it, too, right? You did a brilliant job. You guys did an amazing job. You really put it together perfect.

Listen, fuckheads. I love you guys. I don't really mean to call you fuckheads. I say that like I treat you like I treat us. This thing's got to end at some time. And now is that time. So Adam Skor, you, sir, are the shit. You did a fucking tremendous job. You took the ball. You ran

with it. You did an amazing job, man. That's a good idea, Ari Shafir. You did a really incredible documentary, and I can't wait to see this. The culture high. It's going to be badass. You're going to be in it, right? Fuck yeah.

That a boy. Goes without asking. We should do something from here. We'll do it about the podcast. We'll do it. We'll interject. We'll interject some podcast footage in it, and we'll promote it through the podcast, too. I'll help you out.

Man, you're awesome. Holla! Spread the word, buddy. Spread the word, buddy. Spread the word, man. You're doing an awesome job of just doing that. Getting that real information out there. The truth out there. And you know, it's not about hippies, folks. It's about fucking personal liberties. And we've been co-opted by shit corporations that don't

really give a fuck about you. And we need to recognize that. It's not patriotic to support that. It's unpatriotic. It's tough sometimes to buck off and say the situation's fucked. But the people that are going to benefit, it's not patriotic to support that it's unpatriotic it's it's tough sometimes to buck off and say the situation's fucked but the people that are gonna benefit it's not just gonna be people like us that want to smoke weed it's gonna be those people that are suppressing people too because it shouldn't be within the law to allow them to suppress people it is in fact an injustice it's a terrible thing where people are allowed to tell other people

what they can and can't do that doesn't hurt anybody else and when you're doing it because you're some sort of a financial gain where people are allowed to tell other people what they can and can't do that doesn't hurt anybody else. And when you're doing it because there's some sort of a financial gain that you're allowed to make some sort of a loophole judgment and make money from that, that's wrong. You know it's wrong and I know it's wrong. And the sooner we get you off this evil tit, the better your own personal life would be. Because I guarantee you, if you're running around out there making money off of keeping weed illegal, you're a cunt. You live a cunt life and you hate yourself. Okay? Because you realize you're doing something really creepy and you're stopping progress.

And if you in fact stop doing that and instead embrace the psychedelic experience. Instead, take a fucking yoga class. Go work out before you open your mouth in the morning. Alright? Get your shit together, bitch. It's not our fault that we can handle it. All right? Step the fuck up!

And follow Adam Scorgi on Twitter. His real name is S-C-O-R-G-I-E, but he thinks you're retarded. So he spells it different. He goes S-C-O-R-E and then a big G. Just to emphasize.

You're brilliant. You did it phonetically. Well, it was because I have Scorgy Productions, right? So then I kept that. Oh, that's your production company. Yeah, Scorgy Productions. It makes it slightly less clever. Not because I'm a G, but just also it's the only Twitter handle I could get.

The other one I'd used on the union one by accident, so I had to use that one. Oh, but you still have the union on Twitter as well? Yeah. Can they follow that as well? They can follow that as well, and then also the culture is on there already. Nice, nice. And when are you planning on getting the ball fully rolling with this culture? Well, August 1st is when the deadline ends for the Kickstarter run,

and then we go into production in September. Powerful production in September. Well, Brian and I hope to be a part of this. Correct, Brian? Yes. Are we down? Definitely. 100% bitch.

Ari Shafir, powerful Ari Shafir. Please follow him. Smuggles weed all over the country. How dare you? Shh. Oh, Ari. Lies. I can tell you all about it.

Me and Ari just added a new day to the San Diego show. How dare you? What day is this? Is this Thursday? Yes. So Thursday, Friday. I will be there on Friday. I do not know if I'll be there on Saturday. Right now? Yes. So Thursday, Friday. I will be there on Friday. I do not know if I'll be there on Saturday.

Right now it doesn't look like it, but I'll be there on Friday. You're going to be there on Friday? Yeah, we'll do that American Comedy Company thing. I'm going to go see the Comic Con. I've never been to Comic Con, man. It's like Mecca. I've got to go there before I die. Before the Mayans correctly predict Nibiru's presence in our atmosphere.

Do you believe in Anunnaki? I've heard your theories about it. I got no theories, son. I got no theories. Did you see Prometheus? Yes, I did. It was good, eh? I did not think it was good.

You didn't like it? No, I did not like it. Man, people are split on that thing. Man, I like it. I thought it was brilliant in moments, and I thoroughly enjoyed it for long chunks. But ultimately, as a whole, I felt like you got way too many cut the shit scenes for me. You fucked me with the fucking spaceship

landing on the chick and she's okay. Sorry. Spoiler. Spoiler. Spoiler. Spoiler. But I would see it again because I'm a retard and I love sci-fi movies and Ridley Scott is still God. That's so fucking dorky to say someone is God. Ozzy is God! You know? Ridley Scott is still God. Yeah. That's so fucking dorky to say someone is God. Really. Ozzy is God.

You know? Ridley Scott is God. He's an amazing director. I would love to talk to him about how... How he fucks a fleshlight. How that guy would love to be cuddled by the inside wall of the fleshlight. Because, ladies and gentlemen, there is no better feeling. The love of your friends is number one.

Family, right up there. then there's a fleshlight folks it's like the best vagina you really could ever invent and if it just moved on its own it would be too perfect and that's all you would do all day you should be lucky that it's a manual thing it's been the lazy cunt that i know you are you know you're gonna give it a couple of thrusts and then you're gonna throw in the corner and pass out probably without even pulling your pants up you sick fuck what if they had a flashlight that you know that the cousin it and right that would do that like crawl over to you in the morning oh yeah and then that would be fabulous and it whimpered like that again you'd have guys never leave right yeah next morning would you would start feeling jealous or rather uh you would start feeling

guilty that you were doing this and this is no way to live your life, just getting sucked off every day by a robot. And you'd go out and you'd try to find the most religious girl possible. It would probably completely ruin your actual real sex life because you will completely disassociate sex from being like a physical need, and instead it will become like this really heavy-duty emotional thing. So you'll find some chick who's in the 50 shades of gray and you'll find her. And then together you guys can just slow kiss

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This is Sucker Punch. I don't know. I'm calling it Punch Drunk. That's me. Punch Drunk is my sport. Nobody's punched me for years and I'm still stupid. This is the end

of this podcast, ladies and gentlemen. We want to thank you very much. If you are podcast starved and you're like, God damn it, I wonder what those guys talked about right after that podcast is over. We got another fucking podcast.

It starts any second now. And it is called the Ice House Chronicles. And it is only available on Death Squad. If you go to iTunes and subscribe to Death Squad or go to DeathSquad.tv and you can find the Vimeo links and you can find all that good juicy shit. If you want to watch it live, it'll be on this same channel, ustream.tv forward slash Joe Rogan.

Holla at your boy. So the Ice House Chronicles, Ari Shafir will be here. Brian Redband will jump into the fray. Who else? Brendan Walsh. Oh, my man. Maria Shahada.

Randy Licky's here to talk to you. Randy Licky wants to smack me, I heard. Why? This might be the end. Oh, my man. Maria Shahada. Randy Licky's here to talk to you. Randy Licky wants to smack me, I heard. Why? This might be the end. This might be like a door song. Alright, we love you guys. Thank you for everything, and we will see you as soon as possible. Next week sometime. Thank you.