The Joe Rogan Experience - #2351 - James McCann

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

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The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. John McCann, my man. Hey, thank you for having me here. My pleasure. It's a joy. It's a joy to have you, sir. I've been having a good time hanging out with you at the club, so. It's been great. I feel like we gotta do this. This is very... Ah, man, I'm trying not to spin out this I have

watched this on a phone before this is great. Well it's weird for me that it's weird for people because to me it's still the same thing it's just sitting down talking to people I've gotten so used to it even when it's like Trump or Elon or some fucking huge cultural figure it's still still you must have spun out at least one time I spun out a bunch of times in the early days. I still spin out every now and then like You know like you like Mel Gibson's on the podcast. Yeah, that's really Mel Gibson Mike Tyson. That's another one Yeah, he was was this where he said he became a wrecked when he wanted to beat people up that was in California, Okay.

Yeah. That was... It's a classic. It's a classic, all-time great moment. He was scaring the shit out of me. Man, I spin out... When I first got to the club, I was going... It was every week I would...

It's weird, right? When I first met Adam Eaget, I went, I said, no, it's Adam. Mr. Egan, I've seen you deny the Holocaust. Not really. We should be real clear. No, he was just a Norm MacDonald. He was just a Norm MacDonald bit. He features in that book a lot.

Well, Adam's an amazing guy. He's the reason, he's one of the reasons why I went back to the store. When I was banned from the store for seven years, Adam came to visit. Seven years? Yeah. Well, I banned myself for seven years. They banned me. They were going to ban me for like a few weeks.

I'm like, fuck you. Yeah. Like, nay. What did you do? There's the whole Carlos Mencia thing. They banned you for that? Yes. You won the court of public opinion on that.

Well, not only did I not really get banned, the guy who banned me was eventually fired. It was the manager there. But Mitzi gave me a spot that night. It's like before they called me to tell me I was banned. Mitzi was going through a lot of health problems, right? And you know, Mitzi was, I was very close with her. So I called her when the whole Mitzi thing happened. And I said, listen, this, this guy's been a problem. It's a real issue. People are worried about doing material in front of them.

It's like, this is a giant problem. And I told her the whole thing with the video and she's like, all right, well, just keep away from them. What time do you want to go up tonight? And I said, when do you want me to go up? And she said, how about 1030 or whatever it was? was I said, thank you. Okay. I love you. Bye We said bye and then like fucking an hour two hours later I get a call from this manager telling me that I'm banned from the store for two weeks

And I was like what? I go for two weeks for I go listen to me right now. I'm not coming back. I go I'm not coming back. And you're making a decision that's gonna fuck this club up because you're choosing to take the side of plagiarism. Yes. Over someone who's exposing it.

Like the agents won't expose it. They're making a shit ton of money. And if the comedy store's not gonna side with the artists, I'm like listen, this is the same conversation I had with my agent. I lost my agent too for that. I feel like those are both important moments in it. Like everybody seems to have a problem with their agent fire them, but also the number of people who've been banned from comedy clubs.

I was Brian Simpson has told me about how he got banned for ages when he was homeless. Uh, who, there was like, like five people all doing comedy clubs. But he was, uh, he, he had some sort of an issue with someone there. And this was like when Brian wasn't Brian Simpson from Netflix. You know, it was like Brian Simpson, up and coming door guy that people go, oh, that guy's funny. But like, if you get a run a foul with certain this is what I'm trying to avoid I did this in Australia a lot you ran a foul. I was a problem and I Couldn't work in certain cities for some time just because I was I think unpleasant. What were you doing wrong?

I you know, I started coming out would go around telling people that they sucked And I went to like the head of the Melbourne Comedy comedy. I would go around telling people that they sucked and they should quit. And I went to like the head of the Melbourne Comedy Festival. I was in the comedy competition. It was like my fourth gig. And I was like, you're picking all the wrong people to win these, oh, these guys are better. And it just, anyway, we grow older.

I was also 18. And I was very, yeah, a lot of feuds, a lot of telling people that they sucked. Well, when you enter into comedy, you know a lot of times people treat it weirdly like sports You know like they talk shit playing basketball, so they try to talk shit doing comedy. Yeah It's weird. Okay. I've gotten better at it. I think I've purged it for but sometimes well It depends on the environment you're in if you're in an environment where a lot of people are doing that It's not fun, but this is I find it easier here because people are I want to I want to say that everyone in Australia

Is bad at comedy there are many great comics But I could not for the life of me like there were times where it's like oh this could be helpful for your career To get in with someone and have them guide you and it's like I just hated everybody's comedy And people who were great would often leave or not be around. Australia's kind of a different... We've got great people out there but... Lo listen you got Jim Jeffries, I think you're the funniest guy that's ever come out of Australia, I believe that.

Well, no we have Barry Humphreys, I'll never be better. You know Barry Humphreys? No. The first big drag act. I think we watched a clip once in the green room, but you know, the problem is the green room is so loud. Yeah Yeah, I'll watch it. I'll watch it was the man. He would dress up like a day Medina This is in the 70s is conservative man. Yes, I'd like a housewife like a very dowdy drag act and Was like super funny really broke through in the UK and then the festival turned their back on him He started the Melbourne Comedy Festival and

Then he made some like trans remark and Hannah Gadsby I think was like I'm not taking this award in his name. Okay, you're the second funniest Australian I lose out to Hannah as well. You forget about Hannah. Hannah was a great club act I tell this to people all the time. No one in a minute. No one wants to believe it Well, listen man, it's just she did a different thing. A lot of people got mad at that, but I don't get mad at things that are not for me. It's pointless. It took me a while. I think it was like a revolutionary act for Americans because you don't have comedy

festivals in the same way here, but like everyone in Australia was doing the I Got Raped show, or the I Wanted to Commit Suicide show. Oh really? Yeah, you show, you know, everyone does an hour. That's the only way you can, there's only five cities. So the comedy festivals are the only way you can really break through and make money. There's five clubs and once you're done touring them, you got nothing. So every, you have to have a new hour every year.

There was the, oh man, there've been some great I Was Molested shows. Shout out Corey White for one of the greatest I Was Molested shows ever. Who, Dave Quirk had the I Had an Affair show. That was great. Dad's Got Cancer. Big show. Big show. Mom died when I was young. So it's sort of like more like a spoken word thing than you would say stand-up comedy? No one's even... People do all the jokes they wrote that year, which gets you to like 35 minutes. Then you tell a 10 minute very sad story I did and then and then I finished my chicken curry and I thought I'm ready to die

And then then you bring it back with a gag at the end and yeah, and that was like standard Yeah, it's still going on to this day. There's a lot of it. We never could never do it Yeah, you're I don't I couldn't imagine you doing that you're so like funny heavy like your your comedy is very funny heavy you know. It feels important for comedy. It's the most important thing. It's fun to get interesting ideas out there it really is it's fun to talk about interesting subjects but it's gotta be funny. I mean, people have a theme. Colin Quinn does this all the time,

and he does like the- Oh yeah. He'd go on a therapy show, red state, blue state thing. The history of America in New York is great. He's a genius at it. He's probably the best at it about telling interesting subject matter, using interesting subject matter,

telling you things you didn't know with comedy. And highlighting the ridiculousness of it all. He was at the club and that was crazy. He's great. He's such a good guy. I just, time is usually like, time is dragging on when people are on stage and you check how long it's gone. Even if it's great and you go, I thought we were at the 20 minute mark, it's been six

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He was doing new stuff. I started running the new with the pages. Yeah, with the pages. But the polish, like while he's doing the new stuff, he's so good off the cuff that even if the new stuff was going sideways, he figured out a way to turn it around and would address it. And like, oh, he figured out a way to turn it around and would address it.

I wish I could do that. He was so good. He just sits and writes apparently. He's an animal. He teaches it too. He teaches that he has a program that they actually ran at the mothership for Up and Coming Comics. Can you teach it?

I'm always wary of that. I don't think you could teach comedy necessarily, but I think you could teach, you could learn how he does it and you can learn how certain people do it I think some of that you can apply and I think the school of comedy yeah and put your hair right over your face I think you can what you can do though is teach work ethic yeah and I think that's half the battle half the battle is just sitting down and actually writing. Everyone comes up with an excuse.

It's like a cold plunge. Everybody comes up with an excuse where they don't want a cold plunge. And everybody comes up with an excuse where they don't write in front of a computer or on a piece of paper. They always write only on stage. Doing the same thing over and over again was I, for I don't know, seven, eight years at the start, I struggled to do it. I had no, I had like five bad hours of comedy. And it wasn't until I probably impregnated my wife. It was like, I should make sure there's a good five.

I should really boil this down to a good five minutes or I'm in real trouble. Well, sometimes it's something like that has to happen in your life where you really take it seriously. Because we all know comics that we started with, we're like, oh my god, this guy's going to be huge. Yeah.

And for whatever reason, they didn't put in the work. They fucked off. They self-sabotaged. Every town, you go to this, the guy who's going to be big. I think if we can encourage more people, we can make less of that. And I think we can give more people a chance. Because I think we we can encourage more people, we can make less of that. And I think we can give more people a chance. Because I think we all could have

been that person who quit. And I know in the beginning, I thought about quit a bunch of times. One of the things that helped me not quit is I tore my ACL. So I couldn't train or compete anymore. Because I was still kind of on the fence of whether I'd go back to fighting or cause I was terrible at comedy. I was, I was like good every now and again.

And then ACL took that away from you. Uh huh. One option now. I was like, okay, I can't fight anymore. I need to get surgery. Um, I gotta take this seriously and I got to really pick one thing. And I completely stopped competing. So it was like a year into comedy. So that

was an important thing. Like I needed a thing where I was like, okay, I've got no options now. Like I can't just enter into a kickboxing tournament and say, fuck comedy. This is too hard. Yeah. And it's just, there was, it was a weird thing. It was like I had to make a complete mind shift from someone who didn't care at all about other people's opinions Someone who was like I will show you I will show you like I don't give a fuck what you think I will show you yeah to I have to get you to like me Yeah, I have to be fun Not just funny with my friends

But I have to figure out how to make these people my friends where I was always very standoffish with new people was a weird Thing to try to adjust to comedy. Well also, if you can't make it work, you have to stop at some point. Oh, you have to. If you can't make it work, you have to. But I did make it work sometimes. I just had to figure out what was consistent

when I was making it work versus not. Yeah, that's a bitch. That's a real, I don't know how, I mean, so few people get past at a club. I know, it's hard. Because you have to come back and do it a couple times. You have to suffer. But I see people have a great, like a one-off, great one.

And then you go, where did that go? Oh dude, there's a girl that I saw once in a 1990. No, 1995 or six, that's what it was. 1995 or six, she did a set in the Belly Room. And it was one of the funniest sets I've ever seen in my life. It was like I was watching a female Sam Kennison I was like this girl is on fire. Like this is insane and then never happened I don't know what happened You know, I don't know people just never really get it together

They they whatever the fuck they pulled off that time They can't do again. Yeah lightning in a bottle Oh, but it was in there like it's in there that comedy was in there I was like if this person with the right encouragement could have been fucking huge man. Yeah, I Remember I saw my friend a mouse on that day his girlfriend broke up with him and he went did He was meant he was booked for 10, he did like 25. He was just heartbroken, he was just complaining about being devastated and it was all the things that were wrong with his comedy beforehand were like gone. He was used to

be like unpleasant in people's face and then he was like free and likeable and good. It's like you can't engineer to be broken up with every show. You can't. You can't engineer that, right. You shouldn't. Well that was Kinnison in the early days, right? Kinnison in the early days was all about like meeting the devil and the devil's like, oh you've been married? Yeah.

This is all fucking nudie. You know, this is all old hat to you. Oh, this is where we're torturing the souls. I never had it. Oh, you were married twice? Like, remember that bit? Kinnison, the first time I realized that he. Oh, you were married twice? Like remember that bit? I'd never, Kinnison the first time I realized that he was a big thing was when that poster went up backstage at the mothership.

Oh really? Yeah, we didn't get him. Wow. We didn't get him, we didn't get, maybe some people got them. We got Ron White because he was on Comedy Central so I had seen his special like a bunch of times. That's crazy. But in terms of American comics, I didn't get Kinnison.

I didn't get, who, we got Chappelle, because we got Chappelle Shaw. You must have got Hicks. People around me had Hicks, but I was late to Hicks because the men who loved Hicks were nuts. Right. You know what I mean? Like you go, there's something good here,

but I'm gonna have to come back to it. Well, he was so good and so unique in The kind of comedy that he did and so smart that it made a bunch of guys try to be like him. Yes Yeah, there's many such cases. Yeah guys who are great, but they destroy Dude, there's a lot of little Casey Rockets running around. They think they don't have to write anything and they're one of the all-time great I mean if you One of the all-time greats is Richard Jenney. I mean, he's an all-time great. And when I saw him in the 1980s, he did a club,

I guess it was probably 90, 91 maybe, East Side Comedy Club. He did four different hours. And the emcee wanted to quit comedy after he emceed for him the weekend. He said he did four different hours and the MC wanted to quit comedy after he MC'd for him the weekend. He said he did four different hours, a different hour on Friday night first show, different hour second show, different hour first show Saturday night, different hour. All of them murdered and he said it was insane.

And he goes, I wanted to quit comedy. He saw Hicks and he said to me like we were hanging out together he was like God I wish I'd... makes me want to do more of that you know I feel sometimes I'm not doing enough of that like wow that's crazy. Do you know Ken Dodd? Do you know that he was a Liver Puddlyan comedian I think but he would come out and he would do his new hour and people were like clap and say thank you and then he would he would say right I'm gonna do the hour I did last time I was in town you can leave if you want but I'll do the second

hour is the hour he did the year before and then he do the hour that he did the year before that and he just do hour after hour until the whole until like if people had enough they could get up and walk away wow but he'd be there for like seven hours Jesus Christ yeah you know he's sure the bar staff hated it Chappelle used to do that he used to pull up to the Laugh Factory and do like a nine-hour set yeah he's still doing it up to the Laugh Factory and do like a nine hour set Yeah, he's still doing it I think him and Dane Cook had like a battle to see like who could do the longest set

I mean, I saw I got to go to I don't think Dave was like trying to battle but I think Dave like took the title Shane took me to his the the YS firehouse the club that Dave has set up in Yeah, it was on his birthday and he did three hours and he bombed at his own birthday and he kept saying, I can't believe I'm bombing at my own club on my birthday. But then in the middle there was a guy with a coat and he just did maybe 45 minutes about this guy's coat of crowd work on his, just a, it was magical. The whole thing flew, he could release an hour

on this guy's coat. I think he's recording everything there. He's building a vault, I think. I think he's got a Prince vault. A Prince vault? Yeah, like how Prince, I think every second album, Prince would just put it away. And I think he's got, he must have hours in the vault.

Yeah, he's got a whole system for how he creates comedy. It's very unique. He goes on stage and he has some subjects and he just fucks around. And he gets a little drunk, gets a little high, and he's so funny that some of those things will wind up being bits. And then he takes those bits and then he has all of them recorded. So he's just constantly stocking. goes on stage like almost every night. I there's nothing in my vault Everything I've gotten up got like every time I go out there. I've got nothing Isn't that a great example like not everybody has the option to just go on stage and rant for three hours? Yeah, but isn't it?

Educational to any young comics it says okay Who do people consider to be the grass greatest comic alive? Most people would say Dave Chappelle and Dave Chappelle is working harder than anybody any young comics, it says, okay, who do people consider to be the greatest comic alive? Most people would say Dave Chappelle, and Dave Chappelle is working harder than anybody. Yes. It's not a coincidence. Like, he's effortlessly funny, yes, for sure.

Brilliant, yes, for sure, but also works every night. Like, there's something to that, and works every night and does long sets, like every night. Like, he's always grinding. He's always there, he is pounding. He's always getting better, he's always covering new subjects. I thought I didn't have to do it

before I came to America. I would do like, I would do an hour a month and be very happy with that, and I thought this was enough to get me where I needed to go. And now going every night is, it's also hard to go every night. Like you don't, you have a good time once you're out, but then you wake up the morning into comedy then you gotta avoid that feeling right so it's a it's a mental collapse it's you

know familiarity breeds contempt it's not just in relationships it's in anything you do yeah and that's where you have to reset your mind right so like when you start to feel that coming on like I can't believe I have to do another set fuck I don't want to do a second show. You have to remember what it was like when you had nothing. And you have to remember what it was like when you would go to open so bad and you wanted to, you're like, I gotta figure this thing out. You gotta have your Johnny Cash moment sitting backstage at the Folsom Prison. Yeah. And now here you are about to go do a second sold out show. No, it's silly. You should be so pumped. It's just a familiarity thing. It's just a mind fuck.

But you can get over mind fucks, man. You can get over them if you understand what they are and just recalibrate the way you engage with it. Figuring out a way to recalibrate that doesn't kill you in the long run is a good... Like I know some people... You mean cocaine? I do cocaine, people get like fucked up or just play a video game or then they can get back and do it. You don't have to though. You don't have to do those things.

I think you've got to do something. You've got to go for a nice walk. I started swimming. We all need to go for a nice walk. Yeah. I started swimming. We all need to take our health seriously, and let's face it, while the average modern diet might include some fruits and veggies, it also comes with its fair share of fries and barbecue. That mix probably isn't giving your body everything it needs. This new generation of AG1 can help fill the nutrient gaps your diet might miss.

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Just go to www.drinkag1.com.com.au or head to the link in the description to get started. That's www.drinkag1.com.au Joe Rogan. That's great. I love to swim. Oh, you were telling me that. Yeah. I'm all about, I've got nothing.

I go on stage and I try and talk about how much I love the pool. I got nothing You might like three sets where I stand there and go isn't swimming beautiful. You'll fear then I say nothing I'll wait for something to happen after that I go and talk about the next thing Well, it's you know, one of those exercises that because you're moving against the resistance of the water It doesn't damage your joints. Yeah. And it's like, it feels like therapeutic, even though it feels like exercise. You can get yourself tired if you want.

You can slow it down. Oh yeah. Yeah, and it's fun. I swim with my dog. In a lake? No, in a pool. Me and the dog swim in the pool. He's the funniest, he's such a great dog.

I did find your dog Instagram account Are you running the dog Instagram? Yeah, my wife, okay, but he's um He's so great that like he won't swim Unless you're swimming like he knows he's not supposed to just randomly jump in the pool because then he comes in the house He's everything up so he only is allowed to swim when we tell him to swim and so he sits there We're fucking swimming today? Yeah. And then he finds out we're swimming, we're like, oh shit, we're swimming!

And he just jumps off the fucking side of the pool. Do you have a chlorinated pool, a salt pool? Salt pool. I think it's salt pool, if it's not supposed to be. It's not, I can float in that. I cannot float in the chlorine pool, and that brings me great. Why not?

My legs sink down. Oh. I have no bum. Have you ever done a float tank? Never. Oh my God, Oh my god, we're afraid of what would be in my brain. You need to find out So beautiful dig around dog Just push it down and get back to work at the factory It really does. I'm a big believer and push it down and keep back to work at the factory. It really does.

I'm a big believer in push it down and keep moving. Hey, there's something to be said for that. I mean, you explode at some point. Well, the opposite is not good, right? If you're constantly dwelling on your problems all the time, that's worse. I was, someone was, I got circumcised at like 32 because I had a problem. Jesus Christ, son. Lord's name. It was a beautiful experience. I enjoyed it. I had a problem. Jesus Christ, son. Lord's name.

It was a beautiful experience. I enjoyed it. I had a nice time. Did you get a rabbi to suck your dick? I thought about it. I thought I could leave that in as an option. But also, it's fine. By the way, for people, I'm not making a joke.

They do suck the, sometimes they have a tube. Sometimes they have a special tube. Yeah, and sometimes they don't. No, sometimes they just get the whole dick around. And they've given kids herpes and babies are died from it. Children do die every year. Yeah. Yeah, it they don't know something and they've given kids herpes and children do die died. Yeah from it. Yeah It's grim but circumcision in general. I'm in favor. Why because I had I know it was like before I know it was like after It's not a big deal. This is there are people I'm saying people make it their whole life of one Yeah, I've experienced both as an adult people go most people would not want their dick to be cut for no real reason other than aesthetics and people like, oh it prevents AIDS

Shut the fuck up. I got to go to the AIDS Memorial Garden in San Francisco Yeah, did you show them your new dick? Well people definitely would it's a lot of nooks and crannies in the AIDS Memorial Like they've built the perfect place to have sex with a man in the AIDS park. It's perfect Someone's definitely gotten AIDS at the AIDS Memorial Garden. You think so? They're fucking away and they're gone. I knew there was something I was supposed to remember. Now I have AIDS. It was very good.

It was a beautiful park. San Francisco was lovely. Have you ever listened to people like, what is that guy's name? The guy that we had on the podcast a long time ago? Peter Duesberg. No. You want to go down the ultimate rabbit hole. What was he doing?

Was he in a park? No. Peter Duesberg doesn't believe that HIV causes AIDS. I've heard about this. It's the treatment. Peter Duesberg is, he's a professional of professor biology, University of California, Berkeley, tenured, and he's's done groundbreaking work on cancer.

It's like, consider him a brilliant guy. Considered to be a brilliant guy. So in the 80s when all this was going on with AIDS, his assertion was that there was a thing that people were not factoring in, is that almost all of the people who developed AIDS were hardcore partiers, hardcore drug users in the gay community. And no one wanted to address that.

And he was saying, no, this is destroying their immune system. And then HIV shows up. He goes, HIV is a weak virus. He goes, and most people, and when I read what he said, and I don't know if this is true, maybe we could find out that babies, if they're born and they test positive for HIV without any treatment at all, are HIV negative within a certain amount of time. And so it all sounds nuts, right?

Because there's no way... You can marshal evidence for that, because like African countries, you would go, healthcare would be bad, malnutrition would be... Well, this is the thing, are they really testing for HIV when they say these people have AIDS and is there other possible factors that could cause this immune thing and if you're dealing with like it's all coming out of this gay community where there are a lot of party in there's a lot of drug use and a lot of wild fucking and these guys are burning it at both ends and when you do that sometimes you fucking die sometimes

your immune system gets crashed now Clearly I'm not fucking smart enough to know if he's right or if everyone else in the world is right Yeah, because it's literally that right. It's like him. That's what you like though Well, there's a bunch of people that agree with them and quite silently agree with him There's a bunch of people it's actually covered in with him. There's a bunch of people. It's actually covered in RFK Jr.'s book on Fauci because it has to do with Fauci. Fauci was in charge then, right? Yes.

Like he was... Yes. He was the one that was giving people AZT, right? So AZT was a cancer medication that was killing people quicker than cancer was. It was a chemotherapy. And not only is it a chemotherapy, this is the only time during the AIDS crisis where a chemotherapy was prescribed permanently. Because chemotherapy, the agreement is, like, I'm going to take this poison that's going to destroy my body, but it's going to kill the cancer. And then when the cancer is dead, I'm going to get healthy again. Right?

Yeah, no one gets hooked on chemotherapy. You don't stay on it. No one's getting an extra prescription for chemotherapy. And it's a super strong one. And there was a lot of people that took AZT when they were asymptomatic. They didn't even have any of the symptoms. They just tested positive for HIV.

And this is back when Kerry Mullis, the guy who invented the PCR test, he's famously on record saying, this is no way to test for diseases, and Fauci doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and It's the same guy that was in charge during the whole kovat thing and you like that is the craziest conspiracy that HIV doesn't cause AIDS But what he's saying is HIV is president is is present in people with already compromised immune systems and that this unique Factor that they're all Hardcore drug users. users was never taken into consideration.

Well, I mean, certainly with COVID, they didn't take it into account. They had people and weak people. The thing is, you got to look at it from a profitability standpoint. I know this is super cynical and sounds disgusting. But if you have a actual disease that you can prescribe medication for yeah, that's valuable Yes If you have a bunch of people that are doing something that's super healthy that's killing them and you don't have a solution That's not valuable. They figured it out with fat people. They've got the ozempic and people are just on the ozempic forever

You know, I'm big like number one most profitable medication in the country. I believe it but what is that true? Did I make that up? I think that's true. They're all doing sometimes I see things on tick-tock and I was like this China. Also some of them look great Oh, yeah, I know people in a zempik who are they're spriling. They're bouncing around doing it. No, I think about it never No, not no way. I'm a comfortable level of fat In America, no one has ever called me fat. No you've've never. In Australia, at this body, all the time. Really? Yeah. They're all fucking healthy over there.

You guys got to hike everywhere. I think the food is better. For sure. I think the food, I think I've- For sure. I became lactose intolerant when I came to America. Uh, because I had raw milk, and then I vomited green bile for a couple of days. You ate raw milk here?

I had like a gallon of raw milk in a day. So raw milk not pasteurized? I got it from the farmers market. The guy looked really strong and healthy. I want that cool right-wing milk. That gave you lactose intolerance? I don't know. I like the milk so much I like to believe it wasn't that. Maybe you just drank too much of it. I think I got some sort of weird bacteria. But I was yeah, oh green bile both ends really yes Right now you're destroying the raw milk industry. I'm single-handed. I would it also it was the most beautiful milk. I've ever had Yeah, I don't want to be negative about raw milk if you can have it and it doesn't do that to you Oh, I think you had the raw milk. I have it's like drinking a secret. I think raw milk should be like raw meat leave me alone

Leave me alone. I know how to cook a steak right You don't you don't tell me how to cook a steak. You let me buy raw milk. Let me buy it. Yeah. If you let me buy raw meat, let me buy raw milk. Shut the fuck up. Now, are you saying that it's killing people? Okay, where's your evidence? And is pasteurization and homogenization, which does make it more shelf stable and make it so that you could you know you can keep it in the refrigerator for a long time and it's still fine you know it has a expired by date yes raw milk goes bad quick so should you drink the bad raw milk no definitely not but is there

anything this problem on how much you should have super beneficial about drinking the raw milk well there seems to be a lot of evidence as long as it doesn't have bacteria in it. Okay, well how do you prevent that? Well I feel like we can do that. See this, I don't think the solution is... It doesn't feel especially well regulated at the moment. That's the problem. I bought it from a guy's muddy van. Oh yeah. And then as I was vomiting and shitting I was like this doesn't feel natural. You've got to get it from a reputable farmer. But if you do get it from a reputable farm, they exist. There's like a whole website where you can find raw milk because people are raw milk nuts, which is also what turns me off to raw milk. I mean I got it. For about six hours I thought I had the greatest insight anybody had ever

had. This is the special milk, we should all be having it. Until it started blowing out your body. Maybe you just drank too much. I did. Everyone else in the family was fine My wife my kids they all know a little bit. They had a little bit. Yeah, you know too much I mean if you drink too much anything you'll get diarrhea and think about like how much you're you're dealing with how much like milk fat and How much liquid you can get diarrhea just from that? I've a dose done the milk Yeah, that's I would I never had a milk problem before then on the pasteurized milk. So now you have a milk problem? Now I shit. Every time? Oh, I big, heavy, weird. So it gave you lactose intolerance? It happened. I like the milk so much I don't want to blame

the milk, but I will say it happened at the same time. Okay, so is it's correlative, but from then on are you getting lactose intolerant every time you drink raw milk or regular milk regular milk Maybe it maybe my buddy got used to the beautiful raw milk and would only have That I don't have a hard time selling that to the wife. We're getting the raw milk back in the house Yeah, that might be it dude. I know that sounds crazy, but that might be it like your body might Prefer real milk and now that it's in real milk is, yeah, it's like fuck you with this boiled dead shit. Well it's happening with the bread, but I think this happened, I mean something's happening

with the bread in America that's like, my hands feel swollen. I don't personally have any problem with homogenized and pasteurized milk, like when I drink it it doesn't make me feel bad. I don't feel great, but I will do it if I have like cookies and milk, but- Oh cookies and milk. Yeah, but I don't think that you should be able to tell people that they can't sell raw milk I think you should tell people if you're gonna sell raw milk It has to meet some certain standards sure you have to have certain standards of how you cool it What you're doing making sure everything's clean everything has to be inspected, but they do that with other stuff

That's what the USDA inspection on meat is. Also, those standards are definitely put together by big business to crush small people. But they do it that way anyway with meat. This is my point. There's USDA inspections. They have to make sure that the processing place is clean. Everything is supposed to be under... Even then, they still do the like...

Like a burger used to be one cow, and they'd grind that bit up. Now it's like a thousand cows coming together Right. I don't think there's laws against that. Right. I think I don't I think that if you the the cow thing is a weird thing Like when you're getting burgers that have like a thousand cows. Yeah, and a and it is a weird thing But I mean it is just meeked right? It's I think those standards are put there by the big corporate like I was thinking about Like housing zones and district thing like in Australia the median house price is a million dollars I think those standards are put there by the big corporate... I was thinking about housing zones and districting.

In Australia, the median house price is a million dollars. You can't buy... No one in my generation is buying a home. It's a weird... There's so much land. There's a lot of stuff. You should just be able to whip up a slum with your bros. You go to a valley where no one is, and you all live in a... That would be better to some extent Rather than like renting and a horrible thing forever you go used to be able to just like build a horrible

Thing you know there was no building regulations sometimes a ceiling would collapse and people would die But so you think that's better to have no regulations I? Yeah, really yes, but that's how like stadiums collapse on people in third world countries. No doubt bad things will also happen. No, that's a dumb idea. I'm not saying no regulation. All right? I'm going to walk back, no regulation.

Okay. But it would be nice if the regulation was somehow written just with the safety in mind and not so that, I mean, there are insane, like there are buildings up now that are perfectly safe that wouldn't pass code if they were built today. You couldn't build them again now. Why wouldn't they pass code? Because they do things like, you know, the door has to be this far away from the stairs, the ceiling has to be this high, it needs eight fire beeping detectors.

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they're making it for themselves, they will then sell that house to someone else most likely. And that person will not be in a house that's necessarily the safest it could be. It just makes sense. It would result in big problems. It makes sense to. But I'm for it. But it makes sense.

No, no, no, no, no. It makes, you have to be, listen, when I was a kid I grew up in construction sites. My father was an architect. My stepdad was an architect. When I was real young, I got to see like real shitty construction How dangerous it is when people like fuck around don't follow code? Yes What how many like shady guys do a bad job?

How many people try to like use lesser materials than they're supposed to be used? It's constant and if you don't have regulation you you keep you put people's lives at stake. I Don't think America has the same problem with regulation here because you guys seem to be able to build houses. Well we have a lot of regulations though. It's a giant point of contention with people. There's a way to do it in a way that is just to help industry make house prices stay high. Well that's true too. Both things can be true. I think there's definitely people that take advantage of regulation and there's definitely people that most likely stifle other businesses

growth through promotion of regulation. That's probably true too. But also like for some stuff like for safety stuff in homes you fucking need regulation because if you sell it to my mom and she doesn't know how anything works and then the house catches on fire, this would also be bad. Yeah it's just do it the right way they know how to do it the right way. People have established a system now there's a bunch of shit that's arbitrary that gets aesthetic and I'm not in favor of that. When people get to decide what you know the front of your house should look like or what color you paint it.

You can make something safer forever though, and there's no limit, there's no zero that you can reach of safety. Yeah, but do you can reach- And there comes a point where the effort goes up to the extent where it's not. Yeah, but you hit a reasonable level, and then you stop, and that's what the regulations are.

We never stop. I mean, I think with driver's licenses, you should have some test for competency to drive a car. 100%. It should be something. Yes. But when, I mean, in Australia, when I was trying to get, I didn't get my license, I was like 27,

because it took forever, like, you gotta get 100 hours registered, you gotta do a weird test. I got a driver's license in Ohio, where I don't think road fatalities are that much higher than the rest of the, well, and then, you know, you get in the car, you drive around the block, the guy goes,

you know how to operate this vehicle, we're gonna say it's not gonna cost, you know, $1,000, and. Yeah. It around the block, the guy goes, you know how to operate this vehicle. We're going to say it's not going to cost, you know, a thousand dollars. And yeah, it's more straightforward. There's like, there's a balance to be gotten to be gotten right. And I think you're 100% right. I relish in America that you're closer to the freedom side of things. 100% definitely must more than Australia's and you got to see that during the pandemic too. That definitely must more than Australia's and you got to see that during the pandemic too but the the thing is like there's a difference between

over regulation and Wild-west right there's like a fine line There's like a there's a comfortable middle and I think that middle has to be fought for Because I think it really is important to have people that are actually Experts that their jobs to make sure that someone builds a house correctly. Go and look and make sure you do. But then again, you open the door, the possibility that that inspector guy's a douchebag.

And then he's got a chip on his shoulder and he's got a big fucking ego and people bribe him. And, you know, there's always a possibility of that kind of stuff happening too. Where people love to have control over people, they love to tell you you can't build, they love to tell you you can't build, they love to tell you you've got to repaint your house because the color doesn't match our community.

But how do you check that? What is the, other than everyone having a gun and getting ready to a simmering level of violence and revolution? You can't. You've got to fight back before they ever get to that point. It's real hard to regain ground once someone takes ground with like ridiculous legislation like look they've been trying to legalize weed in this country for fucking 50 years, and it's they barely put a dent in it. I don't know They've only done it on a state level, but the point is it's like once you lose Rights yeah like if they tried them if marijuana was legal just like alcohol and all of a sudden they tried to make it illegal People would riot in the streets.

What are you doing? You can't do that because it wouldn't make sense. People would be furious. But once it's done, even if it's the same exact situation, the same exact data, the same exact safety profile, the same exact number of people using it in the country, it's been fucked because it got put into this weird position. But you guys, you got prohibition.

Somehow you got alcohol taking off the streets for- Yeah, but it was- It was bad. Bad, and it lasted a long time, and it led directly into marijuana prohibition. Yeah. Same exact people. But you just need to find something

to have prohibition against. How about cartel prohibition? How about that? You know, how about fentanyl? Stop thinking about things. But then you find out like, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, there's a lot tied to this. It's like the alcohol lobby doesn't want marijuana to be legalized. So they fight against it and they get politicians that are on their side.

Hey, Ralph, you're going to vote for this issue on our side, right? There's no way Ralph came over. Ralph! Ralph Nader? No, no, not that guy. He doesn't do that. But you know, that's part of the problem too, man. It's like there's a lot of money involved in keeping it illegal and you're like, Jesus

Christ. But at least you can have, I think America's one of the only countries that primaries. You can actually like get into a political party and if there's enough will, you can do something. You can do something you can really change It wouldn't even allow it for the democrats to primary for the last election. There was not even a presidential level They're more uptight, but on like what does that mean? They got the super delegates and they got the secret emails and it's not good But the fact that you could even have a system to fuck up

Is I think unique to him like in you in Britain, the party picks who the person is and if you're in the party you get a huge benefit. That you can't have like a grassroots, you can't have like the branch of the party go, we're putting forward a guy who's, we're going to primary somebody. You really can primary people in America. Yes, you can sort of, but not for president. Not last time. And they don't let certain people in the primaries, like they're keeping don't let certain people in the primaries. They're keeping RFK Jr. out of the primaries. Yes, and then running as an independent is very bad.

But that's not good. I'm not saying you're living up to it. I'm not saying you're living up to the standards you said, but you're also the only ones who there's even like, people go, we should be able to do it. People wanted Trump to lose so badly they were willing to throw democracy out the window. That's kind of what it is. I mean, kind of what it is. If that was coming from the Republican

side, people would have been outraged. To do it in the name of democracy was very weird. Wild. And then also, I remember one of the- It's so Orwellian. It's like my first week here, there was a Biden speech where he was talking about how like violence has no, it was like happened on about January 6th and stuff, and he was saying violence has no place in the American system.

But then the example he gave was the American Revolution. Like I think that gets, you're meant to have, I think Benjamin Franklin wanted everyone having an armed uprising every like 12 years or something to wipe the slate clean. You're meant to, that's part of democracy. Ah, do you know about Castro? What about him? I've just, I'm in a big Wikipedia wormhole about Castro. I didn't know that he hid that he was a communist until he, he wasn't a communist or he kept

that quiet. He was like a middle-class revolutionary and then his brother was a commie, but he was like, he didn't come out and say he was a communist until later and the CIA helped him. I've been reading Castro speeches. CIA helped him take over Cuba? It looks like the CIA might have been. And then towards the end they said, we've got to get out of this, this is no good. They really, they changed horses.

Jesus Christ. They were really involved on both sides, but they were... Do we do that everywhere? There's one Aussie that you might have done. Gough Whitlam might have been taken out by the CIA. Jeez. No, he was also a problem and people were quite happy to have him go. But the governor general, man, I don't have to go into too much detail.

Look at that pine gap. You have a military base in Australia and he wanted to like get rid of it or get off American energy subsidies or something. And then all of a sudden he was removed. Oh boy. And we haven't rocked that boat again. We are so good at that. Yeah.

Between us and the Israelis. The Israelis do the wildest assassinations. Like, did you see the one of them that they did with the Iranian generals? Let's see, make sure that this is true, Jamie. I can get my visa removed for criticizing Israel. No, no, no. It's this is a, this is not a criticism. I'm impressed by their beautiful assassinations. This is not a this is not a criticism this is saying like this is one of the most gangster things I've ever seen in my life. They made a fake phone call to all these

military leaders and said everybody's got to meet at the bunker and then they blew the bunker up. That's a very godfather. Bro it's gangster as fuck yeah and then you add that to the pagers they they send pagers out like didn't they send them out like a long time in advance yeah I think so and they got in on the supply side of it yeah they made the pages right I mean you think about how incompetent some forms of our government are yeah and then how good they are at killing people that they want dead.

If they could do that with potholes in the Midwest, that would be great. I know, right? If we could move people out of the CIA and into that. That's the same level of intensity. Well, that's not CIA, that's the Mossad, but that's the same level of intent or the idea for whoever does it over in Israel, but the same level of intensity with other things. You could dominate the world. I mean, we could get a train going.

We could fix all the property. We could have a high speed rail in Texas. I believe in it. Imagine if they took that same kind of ingenuity and tried to fix poverty in America. Brian Simpson said a good, he was on stage for bottom of the barrel and he knocked, like someone knocked the barrel over

and they all had to pick it up and he goes, that's the one thing that could go wrong. We should really fix that. We're never going to. It's like America. We have the resources to make sure that never happens. And we won't. Yeah, no, we won't.

But we put all of our effort into making shit that kills people quicker. That's like the most amount of money, the most amount of effort, other than consumer goods. I would say also sport is at some weird, very high level here. Because that's war. It is a very militarized society everyone's getting ready to... yeah I mean football is just military strategy. Have you ever seen

Serbians play basketball? Yes. Yeah I've seen clips of that. I've seen clips of Serbian, Serbian crowds play basketball. They're big. If that shit doesn't feel like war, the way the crowd is responding, the cheering, the fucking enthusiasm, like dude, I watch it all the time just for inspiration. They're also the only guys other than black guys who can compete in, it's the only whites who are contributing to basketball at this point, is the Yugoslavian whites. Yeah, they're giant whites from a war-like culture. Yeah, no one else, sometimes the noise gets through. We've had like two Aussies breakian. Yeah, the giant whites from a war like culture. Yeah. No one else. Sometimes it gets through. We've had like two Aussies break. Well, Serbian fighters are terrifying.

Dudes from like the caucus region, like all the guys from like Dagestan and Georgia animals. They couldn't get it to work. Dude, someone just printed something or posted something about the UFC's top pound for pound list, and six of them are from the caucus region. Six of them. That seems high. That sounds so high. Sometimes that's like a genetic,

like all the marathon runners tend to be from one mountain in Kenya. There's like- Like the elite of the elite? Yeah, like people go, black people are good at marathon running, but then when you boil it down, it's like, okay, but 90% of them are from Kenya. And then 90% of those people are from one mountain in Kenya with like the air is very

thin. Oh, so they've adapted. There's a book called Taboo, which is about race difference in the in like all sports. Uh huh. And they break and they're like, you're this likely to, you know, you can't be a white corner. Now there is one I think, but like, rare're this likely to, you know, you can't be a white corner. Now there is one, I think, but like, but there are, it's very rare and it's very strange and some of it's social stuff.

But a lot of it is, uh, like I was reading a thing about Mexicans can't get knocked out. That's not true. No, there must be some, but there's like some gene that is very common in the Mexican population that makes it less likely that you'll be knocked out. What, really? And I think that's why they have lots of boxes. I'm half remembering something I read on Wikipedia late at night. Wouldn't that be crazy if they have such a history of boxing

that boxing has somehow or another gotten into their genes to have strong chins? What came first? Yeah, right? The chicken of the egg. Am I right? Any connection between Mexican men and the specific gene, ACTN3. Saw a video on how Mexicans are so good at boxing, Mexico's produced 209 champions.

That's pretty incredible. Video explains how Mexicans supposedly have a gene that has the ACTN3, which determines endurance and or strength one or the other. I was wondering, is there any truth to this? What's the answer? This is about what I need to believe something is a reddit post from four years ago. If you look down there is this just one person's post? Did someone answer them? Well I didn't want to get into the answers because you never know that's where like his point you never know where this goes. Right. I was just gonna start there and then start. Let's find out if there's yeah anything to that it's fascinating. But I would wonder, because if you think about a history of boxing, boy, Mexico has such

a history of boxing. And also, there's a high level of poverty. So whenever there's a high level of poverty, there's a lot of sports where you don't need a lot of money to play them. Soccer's one, boxing's another one. You just need gloves, and you could just fuck around and guys can be good. I was doing a bit about this and I could never get it to like really fly but like Kyrgyzstan, they have a wife wrestling. You wrestle a woman into a van if you want to marry a woman in Kyrgyzstan.

Today? Yeah they call it alakachu. And there's a big Wikipedia page on that. You got to get this lady in the van against her will and then once she gets in the van she's so ashamed that she marries you. But like the one sport they're good at at the Olympics is women's freestyle wrestling. They're great at that. So what came first? The medals or the van? Did they have to get good at wrestling because men kept putting them in vans or were they

so good at wrestling the men were like, let's let them show off their beautiful skills. That's a really good question. I would imagine they were fending off men for a long time so they had a developed technique. I assume it was a horse before it was a van. You can wrestle because they only got the van quite late. There's no way. Anyway, one day I'm going to make that fly. If it's a part of your culture, I would, you know, Jesus. Yes!

Bride kidnapping. Jesus Christ. Yeah, there's a lot of vice. We are breaking the law, says Mediev. But everyone understands the tradition and you can't change it. Wow, member of a local government, a small village outside of Kurg's capital, how do you say that? Bishkek?

Bishkek, you think? I guess it's as good as mine. But everyone here understands it's a tradition and you can't change it. Oh, okay. Medivh kidnapped his wife Elmira more than 10 years ago. He's one of many Kyrgyz men who have gotten married through the Central Asian practice of bride kidnapping. And they go like 80% of the time it's consensual.

But then 20% of the time you're just wrestling a woman into a van against her will. So there are consensual kidnappings where two people know each other and it's kind of role-playing. There's full-on off-the-street abductions. Unfortunately, they both look the same. You really want a safe word for that. Whoa. It could be hard to tell if the girl you see crying for her mom and clawing at the faces of her abductors is merely acting at her part for her mom and clawing at the faces of her abductors is merely acting at her part

For her boyfriend and his family's sake or is actually on her way to being married against her will like what the fuck? Very important that be able to tell the difference. I would say I don't want to pass judgment on the people of Kyrgyzstan This is the thing about the world if you go back like six thousand seven thousand years ago it was all like that you can go back to a hundred years ago and everyone they were foot binding in China they're having beautiful doing it didn't know they can't still be binding the faith photos of it they still foot binding in China I mean I don't know how widely practice it is they're older ladies yeah I know when they stopped but I don't think it was that long ago like there's people that

are alive right now that have those well, I'm for it You don't want some filthy peasant foot on your wife. You want a humble graceful Keep those socks on they do I was reading about those feet are weird. They are they look like they're folded in on Oh, it's not so painful to walk right when I think it's Cameroon They do chest bind like they they flatten the woman's when she starts getting breast they like You flatten the breast but what's weird is that it's the Christian progressive people who are doing it Because the culture is once a woman has breasts She has to get married and she has to come out of school

So because you love your daughter you iron the boobs down so that she doesn't have to get married for a couple years Isn't that funny? Jesus Christ put an end to it. Oh Last shoe factory making lotus shoes closed in 1999. Wow, it could be some Michael Jordan lotus shoes Lotus shoes. Oh my god So when did this start? 1200s or something like that. Wow, the 1200s?

Look at that lady's foot. Look at that lady's foot. Look at that lady's foot. Look at that. That is so crazy. I just see beauty. I just see. I see painful pinky toes.

How is that lady ever going to take like an aerobics class? Look, look how it's become a part of the bottom of her foot. That's so crazy How badly does that fuck with your back? It's so big on that screen. I'd never seen them before bro Those feet are busted up, but the commies stamped it out mostly The colleague now go over can't work. No you got to be yeah, you can't partake in the great glorious revolution Oh the lotus shoe that beautiful shoes That's so crazy you can't buy them

Straight to shopping never know what the same thing. No, that's a brand name. That's a brand name you walk into your house It's all oj simpson merchandise and foot-bound lotus shoes That's hilarious. What a fucked up practice. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah, what about the one where women put plates in their lips? Or plates in the lip, the neck extension? I love the ring neck extension.

The ring neck extensions don't even make sense. How does that work? If you take it off, will your head fall off? Do you have any muscles left? I think it just shr off like do you have any muscles shrinks? Do you have any muscles left to support your head? I would doubt it I do have to keep that on for the rest. I don't think they're meant to be that long No, I think bro. That's fucking insane. That's insane. Just one guy saw a giraffe and they were like can we do that? It's all in this at a Photoshop is that Photoshop?

That's that's really legit. But there's a young lady doing it too. That can't be real. That can't be real. That lady's head is 15 feet high. That last one's like AI porno for neck guys. Bro, that's so dark. That's so weird. Like, I don't like that at all.

Yeah. Oh, don't show me. Oh, they just keep piling those things on and fitting them Yeah, what a weird thing to do to your neck man, that's got we do we stuff we inject lips bro That's crazy. She's got a towel under her chin, but they could be watching it being like, you know in America If they chop off a little boy's penis and they turn it into a pretend vagina, isn't that sick and wrong? Well, they probably do that there too. And that would agree with them. That's a very important part of our culture I wonder if they do do it

You know, I had someone in the green room was saying the other day the reason why there's so many lady boys in Thailand was because being homosexual was illegal Wasn't it legal everywhere this This person that said it is just they said it in passing. I don't know if it was true and I was I meant to Google it and I totally forgot until now. I mean it could be I'm pretty sure it was illegal all over the place and no one else was doing that. No one else had that particular reaction. Well you know that's the thing about what is that? Turing, Alan Turing. Yeah. Alan

Turing was the guy who invented the Turing test. And he was gay and they... Yeah and they fucking poisoned him. They gave him like hormone blockers. Was it just because he was gay? Yeah. There were so many gay British guys though. Yeah but he was like... They had like a long history of... Like Oscar Wilde, everyone knew he was gay and it was only when he went after a guy's son that I think they went. Oh Yeah, I think he went after a guy's young son Well, they could always target you for it though if they want to get you for something else They will yeah, they use that but I think Byron was off, but he was like hospitalized Legality of same-sex activity private adult consensual and non-commercial sodomy was deep

Was decriminalized in Thailand in 1956. However, same-sex attraction and transgender identities were still seen as socially unacceptable in many cases. Those with gender expression or behavior falls out of social norms are less likely to be tolerated or accepted. So what happened? Just this year, they've allowed same-sex marriage. They've allowed adoption from this year. But that's very late to it, because I think a lot of gay couples have been going there to get children for a long time. And now they're saying you can have them here. That's a big...that's not spoken about, is the...the rent-a-womb and the... womb and that kind of bizarre I'm against it

It's very strange the idea of a surrogate is very odd like you're having a baby But it's not really you having the baby like okay I get it if someone can't have a baby the couple wants to have a baby they hire a surrogate I get it. It's your genes. It's your baby, but it's still but also this I mean, I know Elon has like a lot of kids with different ladies But then I mean that's the public one. He's like a one of the only public-facing billionaires There's got to be guys out there who like I'm getting I'm getting 10,000 kids. I'm like Take my cum and move it out across. I'm gonna be Genghis Khan with science guys done that that are doctors

They just put their own cum. Oh,. There's a breakout case in Adelaide at the moment. There's a guy who's, there's maybe a thousand siblings in Adelaide. Oh man, every time guys get a chance they do it. Surrogacy has a long history dating back to ancient times with the real examples found in Babylon in the Bible. While traditionally involved natural conception, modern surrogacy including artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization, has been developed through scientific and legal advancements. Okay, but the thing is, it's like they're just playing with words. Hold on.

Let's go back. Because they're saying surrogacy for someone having sex with someone and getting them pregnant and having a baby. That's not surrogacy. You've got a pregnant with- That's a mistress. Yeah. You've got another lady pregnant. That's all that is so

What we think of is surrogacy is you taking an embryo and inserting it into another woman's womb, right? Yeah, that's a completely new thing and I think that's where it's weird It's common in like wives of soldiers the other ones like an agreement like if your wife can't get pregnant But she wants to have a baby and she says listen if you fuck my best friend she'll have the baby and then we'll take care of the baby. Yeah. And I know that I can't have babies but you you know if that's if you guys are that kind of swingers and you're down with that and that's that's up to you. That feels different from science. That's not surrogacy. You just had a baby with a different human. No, surrogacy seems bad and wrong.

I'm digging in. Well bro, it's gonna go to artificial wombs, all right? That's gonna be the new one. And whether that's 20 years from now or 50 years from now, you're gonna be able to make a baby outside of a human body. It's gonna get real freaky. We gotta be, we gotta draw a hard line. We pulled this up, the IVF thing gave me a weird thought, a little stoned thought.

It's not possible how Jesus was born, was it? They didn't have any sort of way to do it. You're saying that our Lord was an IVF baby? And they just like forgot about it? Could be. Could be that they had that technique. Jamie was the Holy Spirit. I know what they say, I'm just, but like... Yeah, well... That was advocate, obviously, but..., well Well for sure they could have

Inserted sperm into her without her ever having sex. They could have impregnated I think there's like dolphins that can do it if dolphins are on their own for a long time then an egg Can fertilize another egg? It doesn't happen often, but there are examples of it really yes That's nuts nuts I think I believe that I've read that you sure I've said that loudly and confidently at a party before it might have been that sounds cool crazy that a mammal could do that yeah inside of them they can I think it's like a couple examples of auto insemination so it's like one of the eggs has so much jizz in it that it leaks out and gets in the other

eggs? You get a very butch egg. You get a trans egg. You get maybe one of the eggs is male and it just jizzes on the other egg. You know, it's an early developer. Yeah. Just like comes out of, maybe jizz is like in some of them out of the box. I think there's virgin birth in nature.

It's not common. It doesn't happen a lot, but it is possible. Well, there's virgin birth in nature. It's not common. There's not a lot. But definitely animals switch genders. The animals like especially like primitive reptilian type fucking weird animals. Yeah. They can there's certain animals that can switch their genders. I think seahorse ladies have a penis. I think so. Am I getting that? You know hyenas have a penis. Females. No I didn't know that. Bigger than the males Just for sure. Just know they dominate the males that they're bigger than the peg the males. Yes Female hyenas, they're one of the rare matriarchal mammals. So the females are bigger than the males

You have more testosterone than the males and they have bigger dicks and They hold the males and they have bigger dicks and they hold the males down. Yeah you want some of this pussy and then the male has to take his little dick and stick it inside of her big dick. What with the big lady dick just slapping against his belly? Yeah you want to hear even worse? 60% of all hyenas that are born suffocate to death during childbirth. Coming out of that dick. Because they're coming out of the dick? The vagina is on the tip of that dick. Cause they're coming out of a dick. They're coming out of the dick? Uh huh. The vagina's on the tip of the dick. No, it's really a vagina.

Come on, hold on. It's a vagina but it's like a long dick. Can we see the hyena? Oh, it's bananas. It's bananas. I want it. Cause I... They call it like a faux penis.

I think last time Shane came on here, I think you guys were talking about the trans penises and then he just kept texting me the trans penises. Oh, he's horrible at that. He's horrible. Just woke up in the middle of the night to a trans penis. He shows you these skin graft scars and you're like what am I looking at? Why is it so much bigger than mine? Why can't you have a humble penis? I've got to see- wow yeah all right so female hyenas have this giant fake dick and yeah it's huge

they have to put their penises- the boys have to put their dicks in. Exactly. And that's how the babies come out of that. A lot of the babies die on the way out. We've got to destroy all the hyenas. 60 percent, I think. I think that's the number. Let's make sure that that's the correct number. I'm pretty sure it is. I think it's the hyena. People will be furious.

60 percent suffocate during childbirth. And then on top of that that like then they fight over who gets the nipple and some of them get killed. That's why they so unhappy all the time. Oh the Lion King. They're just in the most ruthless environment and they're not the biggest animals. Oh 9 to 18 percent the mother dies Jesus Christ that's crazy Got eyes. I've imagined eighty percent of the women dying because they they're giving birth. Yes sixty percent of all spotted hyena cubs Dying the early stages of life, especially from the first litter some scientific observations place the survival rate of firstborn cubs at around 40% or less Wow

Syblicide is huge. Mm-hmm. Syblicides very huge. They they fight to the death over like little nipples And like stepdads and I come well in the uh-huh. Well, that's also why female hyenas I think are bigger I think it protects. Yeah, I think they're there there because the men hyenas are bitches and the men probably eat the babies. Because that happens in other communities. That happens in bears. In the bear world, female tigers, or female bears rather. The reason why when you stumble upon a female bear, she's ready to fuck you up.

That's the worst thing that can happen in the woods. You stumble upon a female bail with Her cubs you're in real trouble if you stumble upon a male and you're like you got he might he might not have any interest In you at all, but if you stumble if you're too close to the cubs if like she is in front And the cubs are behind and you're behind them. He's run away. You know, bro You might not have the time. She might just come for you. And you can't do a goddamn thing about it

because she's dealing with male grizzlies eating her cubs all the time. So she's always on 10. I mean, if we go to Yosemite, should we bring a gun? You shouldn't go off trail, for sure. You shouldn't go off trail. You should definitely bring bear spray if you're any, but Yosemite is in California, right? I fucked this up before. Yellowstone has the grizzlies. Yosemite has the black bears.

Black bears generally aren't as dangerous as grizzly bears. Are they grizzly bears in California? No, no, there's not. Even though it's the flag, the state flag. It's the bear on the flag. The flag misled me. Well they killed too many people and they killed them all. But they've got coyotes still running around. Coyotes don't really kill people though, they kill your cats and dogs. Mount lions occasionally kill people but grizzlies were killing a lot of people. I feel like you guys have way more animals that kill people than we do.

Oh yeah for sure. People talk about our animals all the time. We've got a snake and we've got a spider that you want to watch out for. You've got saltwater crocodiles mother fucker. Yeah but if you stay away from the crocs. What are you talking about? You just keep away from far north Queensland. But they are. Yeah but you so you have to avoid a whole part of your country because it's infested by monsters. We were happy to give that well up to the Japanese. We made a deal that if the Japanese invaded we'd let them have the saltwater crocodile part of the country. Have you seen Bob Catter? This is like our best clip from a politician. He's talking about gay marriage and he turns it into talking about crocodiles. No. Oh, Bob Catter, crocodile, he's my favorite. He wins his Far North Queensland seat every

year. He's not in any party, but he's like, let a thousand blossoms bloom. Oh yeah. Let me hear it. Let me hear it. I mean, you know, people are entitled to their sexual proclivities. You know, I mean, let there be a thousand blossoms bloom, as far as I'm concerned. You know, but I ain't spending any time on it because in the meantime every three months a Person is torn to pieces by a crocodile in North Queensland. He's the man He needs more power in our government every three. That's just a person is torn apart by a crocodile in North Queensland

Yeah, I believe it Jesus well, there's a lot of people there's a lot of They come in the ocean as well. They swim out of the waters. I want you to imagine this. What if every three months someone got killed by a werewolf? Would you still go out at night? Yeah. Yes I would. Every three months someone gets killed by a werewolf in your town. I mean how many people are dying on the roads every day? I understand. but there's

something uniquely terrified about getting eaten. The Crocs never got Steve Ewen. That was the that was the raise. I'm more upset by the raise. Well he knew how to handle the Crocs. What's that? Four deaths since 2020 and nine non-fatal attacks. See? Oh, so it's bullshit. But that's not something you just didn't die you got ripped apart though.. Yeah, but that's not three. That's not what he was saying Come down he was Three a month did what we say this is also seven years every three months every three months. Oh every three months We might have clamped down on it. That's only for a year. Yeah But also there's you know, you know, I'm talking to the city

You know walking through the city and going, crocs are gonna come and get you. Yeah, but if you go anywhere near a lake and you make the wrong kind of vibrations. Yeah, they were very, I went to Cannes once and they were all very scared. They come out so quick. They come out so quick, dude. But also what a beautiful way to die. Nope, not beautiful at all. Nope, nope.

He was eaten by a crocodile? Reptilian, evil, the last moments of your life will be horrible energy that you will pass on to the cosmos. You will die in the most horrific way possible. It's not that bad. They all fit on two pieces of paper. Yeah, well he's over plan. He's over egging. These are all the people that have been killed? But again, Cairns, Cairns, both. Cape York, Cape York, that's up north. So there's a lot of non-fatals in there. Very few people there. No one, you know, we don't have it. We've got Cairns. That would be the biggest city up north.

Are those as large as the Nile crocodiles, the saltwater crocodiles? I don't know how big a Nile crocodile is. I only just saw an alligator for the first time. They're not as scary. Well, you've got to see a big one, dude. A lady just got killed in Orlando by one last week. Saltwater are water larger more vicious Saltwaters are larger than the Niles

Bro, you have the most aggressive crocodiles in the world I got them and we got it's a lot of koalas and kangaroos kangaroos are so friendly you have the most Aggressive dinosaur. Yeah the world in your country. That's why to get torn apart by one would be an honor Yeah, okay, would be an honor. Yeah. Okay. No? You know what I would like to do? I'd like to get together with some special forces dudes and kill those motherfuckers from the air. Okay? Everybody thinks you have to keep them around. You gotta keep them around. Yeah I think maybe we keep three in a zoo and everybody else is dead. They're beautiful creatures. Turn them into shoes. You know about the cage of death? What's death? You can get into a cage with one.

Don't you show me that! That's a good cage, that's a strong cage, you'd be fine. No, no, no people, why do you want to do that? You want to see them. Jesus, that is such a monster, such a fucking heartless monster. If that thing opened up somehow accidentally, it would love to eat you. What is wrong with people? There's a lot of scratches on it too.

He's trying to get in there. Look at that thing. It's so big. They're so terrifying, dude. I mean, it is a fucking monster. And that's not even a big one, man. I have a friend, his name is Jim Schocke, and he's a professional hunter. He lives in Canada.

And they sent him to Africa to shoot crocodiles because they were killing so many people in this one village. And he said when he got there, there was this one particular big croc that was there that was just killing everybody. Everybody was like missing a foot, everybody had one arm, like for real. It's like the jaws but for crocodile? Yeah, he said it was crazy. It's like so many people in this town had been bitten by crocodiles. So they had developed this system

where they put posts in the ground, in the water, so that they knew the crocodiles couldn't get into that. So what the crocodiles did was go around it and sneak into the water when the people weren't around. They're impressive, beautiful. Have you seen in India, when they get like a puma in the village, and everyone's standing on the roof and the

Pumas like running around the streets and the guys are throwing net on it. Yeah nuts Is that it? My god Is that a saltwater one it looks bigger because they're very small people, but that's so big dude. That's so big That's such a dinosaur And then we turn it into handbags and shoes Thank God. I went down a rabbit hole there. It's so funny that people want to keep them around I know I'm like I want to be real clear. I don't want them to go extinct for sure. I'm just

Mostly just fucking around here. They shouldn't be in residential, but it is weird that we tolerate a certain amount of monsters It's weird to reintroduce them seems of monsters. It's weird. To reintroduce them seems nutty. When people bring the wolves back. The thing they're doing in Colorado is so stupid because this is what they did. Okay, Colorado took these wolves from Oregon that had been preying on cattle

and then they moved them into Colorado where they preyed on cattle. And then the people whose cattle they were praying on got pissed off So they took a bunch of them removed them and put them in Pitkin County over by Aspen where they Pray on cattle. It's the dumbest thing. It was like oh, it's gonna balance out Industry no, they're dumb. They don't know what they're doing. It's wildlife. It's ballot box. Why are you who's like? No, it's the governor the governor and his husband wanted to do it this way They're dumb. They don't know what they're doing. It's wildlife. It's ballot box biology. It's just one furry who's like, we've got to get them. No, it's the governor.

The governor and his husband wanted to do it this way. They wanted to reintroduce wolves. But wolves were already on their way to being reintroduced to Colorado. They were doing it naturally. There's wolves. There's a pack of wolves that was established that had already made their way into Colorado. Colorado borders Wyoming. Wyoming has wolves.

So they were getting wolves. Is this a tourism thing or are they just like in the abstract they wanted wolves? No, it's like look there's some like real thought that could be put into whether or not an ecosystem should be balanced with the proper amount of predators and if you, the human race, were responsible for killing off this one major predator that was in this ecosystem. Yeah, that seems irresponsible and Maybe we can bring that animal back and it would balance out the system This is the thought process sure the problem with that is these animals have become accustomed to just killing cattle They did it in Oregon then they did in Colorado and then they're doing it where they are now and

Everybody wants to pretend it's not happening. They want to pretend they didn't do a giant fuck up. These are not wild wolves that are going to go out and hunt down elk and make the population smaller. No, they're used to preying on cattle. So they're killing cows all the time. But there's a lot of people who want to hunt, right? Like there are people who want to take out the animals that the wolves would have taken out.

Well, yeah, but you should have a balance. You should have mountain lines. Like, the wild can't, you can't sterilize certain aspects of the ecosystem because they're dangerous to you. But what you shouldn't do is take these animals and then move them into an area where nothing is prepared. Yeah. The ranchers aren't prepared, no one warned them, they moved them to that area without letting anybody know.

One of my friends has a ranch there, they released some of the wolves on his property. And these wolves, now all of a sudden, wolves that are used to killing cattle are killing cattle down there. Yeah, because that would be way easier. They're easier, They're all together. They don't run away. They stand still, and you kill the calves. Like in Britain, they got rid of all the wolves.

They got rid of all the wolves everywhere, dude. There's a reason why they did it. It's because wolves are like the most intelligent. They're like psychic super predators. They're the most intelligent of all predators. They're the only predator that we have in North America that hunts in a pack. And they're big! You're dealing with a hundred pound plus animal that hunts in a pack. They're bringing back the dire wolf as well?

Well, so that's different. Okay, this is not... But they were not happy with the size of the wolves that they had. They're not gonna put it the wild all right they brought it back to show that this This gene editing that they do for animals is legitimate so to do that They've reproduced an animal from the genes of one of them What was it? What were the numbers Jamie one was like 50,000 years old and one was like 70,000 years old when best Shapiro was in here The the lady who's like the head geneticist, brilliant woman, she was explaining it all to us.

And it's just, the whole thing is bananas. So they essentially didn't even know what they were gonna look like until they came out. Is the hope that we get the dinosaurs? Well that's- They're trying to build Jurassic Park? 100% that's gonna come. If they have DNA from a dinosaur, I don't think they do. I don't think it's possible.

I think it's too degraded when it's that old that you don't find like but maybe they'll find some of the Tasmanian Devils definitely they're always trying to bring that back no the Tasmanian Tiger sorry Tasmanian Devils is there around that's a weird one because they get cancer from biting each other they get face cancer they all have weird I mean all the koalas have Chlamydia do they really yeah, it's probably from sailors Australian very cute. They're very it's the It's the dugong of the land Those Tasmanian devils they bite each other in the face and they get these horrible face deformities. It's like it's like

Communicable cancer it's like cancer that they transfer to each other. It's real weird. Did they have that before we got there? I don't think it has anything to do with us. I don't think that's, I think it has something to do with like whatever the fuck is in their mouth. You know, it could be just all the horrible shit that they eat. And then they bite each other and their teeth are probably rotten and disgusting. I don't know, like why do Tasmanian tiger or devils rather give each other cancer? Let's find out. Well what do they... I mean we could let them know what are we gonna

brush their teeth? No, can't do anything unless you can come up with a medication that stops it from happening like an antibiotic or something. I just don't understand like how cancer can be communicable like that. Like you can just transfer it by biting. Seems crazy. Yeah, if you got covered in a tumor, you wouldn't get cancer, would you? Okay. Devil facial tumor disease. It's a contagious fatal cancer that primarily affects the face and the mouth area of Tasmanian devils. Disease has significantly impacted the wild population, posing a serious threat to their survival. What is it? DFTD is a transmissible cancer, meaning it spreads through the transfer of

living cancer cells primarily via biting. They didn't notice till the nineties. Wow. The tumors usually start as lesions or patches in the mouth and on the face and grow into large disfiguring masses. The disease is almost universally fatal. Whoa. So we must have done this. We must be somehow.

I don't think so. But if it started in the 90s and now they're going extinct because of it. But that does happen with animals sometimes. That feels like weird timing that they were getting by for 100,000 years and then 200 years after Whitey gets there. But that's, it's possible, right? push. Oh, it's good to be cynical. We're about to name a football team after them Crazy animal you ever hear them the sounds they make no, let's play that Play the sounds of a Tasmanian devil. They sound so cool

Like he was my favorite character for sure in the Warner Brothers cartoons the Tasmanian Devil. He'd spin around He was fine When I found out there was a university people kept going like he's black. Do you know he's black Bugs Bunny's black That's like a big thing that he was a black-coated character. He's always like relaxed Oh, and he's got a cool plan that he's working on. He's like a zoot suit guy from the 20s Let me hear some of this yeah look devil was an easy name to pick.

No points for the guy who came up with that. Right? I mean, if you called it anything else, I would be disappointed. Fuck, I miss our beautiful Australian animals. I miss the trees. I got to go through California and see all the gum trees again. I'd say gum trees in forever. Look at that. That's so nice

What a ferocious little fucker something gets in the blood where it's like that's what I think an animal should look like you Don't I saw I think foliage close recently for the I think maybe the first time a Wolverine They real yeah. Yeah. No the real animal. Yeah, I was at a Badger knows a badger It's in the badger family, I think. But I saw one at this nature preserve when I was on the road. It was pretty interesting, man. You see those little fuckers.

They're unbelievably ferocious. They scare bears off of carcasses, and they weigh like 50 pounds. This is the year that I've seen the most animals, because I've got kids and we travel around. And I go, I've been to like eight zoos this year. Oh, cool. So it's a lot of zoos, but they're, man. Did you know in New York they had a guy at the zoo? They had a human zoo?

What is he fighting here, Jamie? Yes. Wait, that's the Wolverine? Yeah, it's a Wolverine. If we get at the animal fight videos, I'll have a drink. I think he pissed himself while that was happening. Of course, he probably pisses himself all over the place. Just probably make himself more ferocious

Like the wolf gets a hold of him I've seen mountain lions get a hold of them and they don't kill him they're like Unbelievably durable you ever watch that like the bird and the fish that goes on for like the bird and the fish It's like a heron trying to get a small fish and they played in slow motion They put classical music behind it. No animals trying to get away from fish and they played in slow motion. They put classical music behind it. Animals trying to get away from other, that's a big... I've watched a lot of those, animals trying to get away from animals. Yeah, running fast across the wilderness.

You want them to get away. So your animals, you have a lot of weirdness going on over there, right? Because you have kangaroos, sometimes they get like an infestation, right? Yeah, then they go up in a helicopter and they gun down the kangaroos. What used to kill the kangaroos back in the day?

I don't think anything was killing them. So how did they get to such a? I think there might have just been less arable land. Maybe they had like less to eat. Oh, really? I assume they would starve, but like I don't think anything kills the emus. We lost all our big predators.

The predators are, I got two. Dingoes and dingos came later dingos I think came from India Yeah, but here's the thing man some kangaroos like six feet tall. They're fucking huge like they'll only bother you So there's that one video the guy with the dog, but what I'm saying is good luck to the dingo. Yeah, these fuckers get big Well, they're in packs though. Dingoes are yeah. Oh, so they're I think they're in packs Well, they probably don't hunt the big males either, right? Look at all fuck. I miss Australia. Do you yeah. What do you miss the most? I miss the football. I miss the The accent look at all these fucking I remember that that doesn't usually happen we don't usually get together and it's all the demon cleared my cults it was during kovat when everyone was inside there was like

kangaroos came back into the town they were jumping about so this is a mob of kangaroos that was that does look like a mob you'll see him you'll go on like a nature walk and you'll see a kangaroo in the distance just looking at you jeez but they're like you know they seem friendly and mysterious, and then they jump away. So was there like more dingoes all over Australia at one point in time? I think we clamped down on it at some point.

Clamped down on the dingoes? Well, there was that lady who lost a baby, and she said a dingo got it, and no one believed her. And now they think the dingo maybe got that baby. But also, the dingoes are all in there. I've never seen a dingo. Imagine your dingo eating your your baby and nobody believes you. Yeah.

Isn't that crazy? Not only is it horrible that a Dingo ate your baby, but then also people think you killed your baby. All right, my favorite one is the poet Ted Hughes. He's married to Sylvia Plath. He comes home, she's killed herself in the oven. Oh, God. Very sad. Very difficult.

She killed herself in the oven? I don't think he came home. He'd left her by that point for another woman. She gassed herself in the oven. Very sad. She killed herself in the oven? I don't think he came home. He'd left her by that point for another woman. She gassed herself in the oven. Oh, then he, the moment, I think it's the woman that he runs away with, a couple years later, she also kills herself in the family oven. Oh. His second wife. So like, from the outside, people in the British literary establishment start going, I think he's killing his wives in the oven. You can't have a second oven I think he's killing his wives in the oven. You can't have a second oven Suicide that's you. It's a for me once type situation. Well, you could if the second wife

Obsessed about the death of the first wife. Yes to the point boy. You'd be careful with wife number three What you'd say we're going electric oven? Well, these are ex-wives, right? Yeah, what's're... I think he was still married to the second one. Oh okay. He didn't have to leave her but he... So while they were married she exed herself like that. Yeah. Yeah well that guy's probably got shitty choice in ladies. He...I believe it.

I know. But you should be so cautious. I'm the second one in the same way. Yeah that's an issue. You'd be like this keeps coming up. Maybe I'm doing second one in the same way. Yeah, that's an issue. You'd be like, this keeps coming up. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Yeah, that's the thing about the Clinton body count. 51 of your friends commit suicide.

Very sad. Something's going on. That's a giant number. Most people don't have 51 close associates, whack themselves in strange ways. Some people are unlucky. One of the guys hung himself from a tree by extension cord and then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun. Yeah, because he was a hard worker. He was probably a good part

of a DNC operation. He didn't want to leave it to chance. Yeah, the mysterious suicide. It's hard not to get into the conspiracy. I try not to have a conspiratorial mindset because I get unhappy. Well we already talked about what Israel did. They made the fake phone call to all the military leaders. But that was only because it was impressive. That's a good one. And I thought it was cool.

Right, it is cool. But the beepers, they came out and they said, we did it. Both of them are cool, but it's a conspiracy. They conspired to whack somebody. They did conspire. Yeah, and they did it and they pulled it off. Well, they also, they were getting like the last Nazis for a while. Oh yeah. Over the latter half of the- Hunt them down 50 years later, 60 years later, hunt them down. Yeah. You think they'd managed to clear up Hamas quicker? That's one of the weirdest, you ever see that show, Hunting Hitler or Finding Hitler? No. Okay. I've seen shows like that on the History Channel a lot.

I don't know if I've seen that one. Tim Kennedy was on it. And they all went down to Argentina. And one of the things you find in Argentina is like entire towns where people speak German. Yeah. And so what... And Italians too. Well, yeah, right?

Miscellaneous guys. Yeah. And so they found all these photographs of like SS soldiers on the walls and people's houses Like there's a television show about it We have a we have a German town in Australia where they say there's a pub with like Nazi stuff on the walls I've never seen it, but the Germans There's like there's a Bavarian town where everyone's nice and relaxed and then there's like a Prussian town where people are very intense I keep it but also sometimes you will go around to like a German guys House like they've got an old German family and then you look over in the mantelpiece and there's like a Prussian town where people are very intense. But also sometimes you will go around to like a German guy's house,

or like they've got an old German family and then you look over in the mantelpiece and there's a knife there. It's a very special knife. It's like, you can't get rid of it. That's grandpa's knife. The weird thing is like, they have full towns down in Argentina

that practice Oktoberfest. They put on the Lederhosen, the whole deal. Like it's a German town. I think there's something about the black population disappeared. I don't know if this is, I think it might be Argentina. They had like a big black population and then over a hundred years people go, I don't know where they are anymore, but they're not here now. And I think it coincides with, maybe it was before the 90s got there, but that's a weird,

that's a weird rabbit hole. There's not a lot about it. There's so many rabbit holes. Some people say they just integrated and... And what, whitened up? Like it's kids after kids and you can't see it, but like they had a big black population. Am I right?

I need that one. I don't want to just say that and have it sit there. Yeah, we'll have to look that one up. But like it disappeared. And this is Argentina? It could be Europe. Black genocide, the true history of the whitening of Argentina. Thank you travel noir.

A website, I've never heard of that website but I assume it's a... Whoa. Today, many Argentinians hold the erroneous belief that Argentina neither participated in the slave trade nor witnessed the presence of Afro-Argentinians as if they had left the country naturally. Such misconceptions persist despite historical evidence. Former Argentine president Carlos Menem once shockingly declared in Argentina, blacks do not exist. That is a Brazilian problem no one's bringing that up whoa less than two centuries ago black individuals compromised over a third of Argentina's population in 1800 that

seems like a question that seems like someone should find out what happened there. Holy shit. Holy shit, man. The factors behind the disappearance. Sudden and profound disappearance of black Africans from Argentina is attributed to a confluence of factors. The 1870s, though. First is the war against Paraguay, spanning from 1865 to 1870s though. First is the war against Paraguay spanning from 1865 to 1870. Thousands of black individuals fought in the military during these conflicts and other wars resulting in significant losses.

The fatalities led to a considerable gender gap within the African population, prompting unions between black women and white men, which effectively diluted the black populace. In addition, many Afro-Argentines sought refuge in more welcoming political climates in neighboring Brazil and Uruguay. But you don't lose a third of the population by accident, by like a battle. That's like, they're saying all of them. Yeah. Like there's no way these factors would make all of them go away. Another devastating factor was the outbreak of yellow fever in Buenos Aires in 1871,

which claimed the lives of numerous locals. But still wouldn't it be like, here it is, but many sources point to a far darker and more sinister force at work. A covert genocide orchestrated by Domingo Faustino Sarimento, who served as Argentina's president from 1868 to 1874 and played a pivotal role in decimating the Afro-Argentine population. Okay, so it is a genocide. Yeah, but this was about a hundred years before I thought. Wow. But then no one's going after Argentina for this.

Well, I didn't even know about it until five months ago. It's always America. Everyone goes about like America's a racist country, their racist history. Holy shit. Why is no one talking about Brazil's slavery? Brazil had way more. Brazil was like, I think they kept doing it for 20 years as well. They were, it was huge. And then everyone just acts like Brazil is a cool place to go by the beach and relax. Which maybe it is. Have you ever seen the City of God? No. City of God is about the favelas in Brazil, in Rio, and it is, it makes, Eddie Bravo said this, that it makes boys in the hood look like Sesame Street. It really does. Like, if you watch that movie, it's so violent and so crazy, and apparently when you talk to people from Brazil, particularly from the favelas, it's actually accurate actually accurate like there were gangs of kids like this. They were like young 10 11 year old kids committing murder every day

They had guns they were moving drugs and getting money and like young They still have it ah still an issue I mean they've done their best to try to like the you you know, the soldiers will like do raids into the favelas at times, especially when someone does something crazy. But I always send positive things about slums before there's negative things to having slums as well. I would just like there to be more, more housing. Yeah. Housing would be good, but good housing would be better. And there's enough money. There's enough money to do that.

It's like you just have to, we have to prioritize. Like what are we spending money on? I mean, we shut, we shut Australia down for like two years. No one was doing anything. Yeah, you guys want nuts. If you ever lead the world in something bad, that's I think a bad sign. Once you have the longest lockdown.

What is it about Australians as a culture that allowed them to be kind of ordered around like we love rules Is that what it is? I think about this a lot Because it's I mean like like driving in America is feels wild and free like no one's doing the speed limit If you do the speed limit on the freeway, it feels way more dangerous than going five over We have cameras ever you can't if you go one two miles over the speed limit on the freeway it feels way more dangerous than going five over. We have cameras everywhere, you can't, if you go one, two miles over the speed limit in Australia you get a fine, they've recorded you, you're in. And we don't push back, I have no idea why other than, because people don't like it overall, people don't want to go through the bureaucracy, but maybe there's no, we

have no like animating sense of freedom, that people should be free, it's like, I think if the motto here is don't tread on me we've got pull your fucking head in you hear that quite a lot pull your head in pull your head in like what do you what are fucking doing pull your head pull your fucking head in like get in get in line go with the flow do what you meant to do and for a while I guess we were also prosperous for a long time and that worked if you just like laid low and you did what you know, you went to school, you went to uni, the government's going to pay for your uni,

you get a nice job, you'll get a big beautiful suburban family home, don't buck the system, you don't have to do anything crazy. And as that falls apart now, which is falling apart quickly, rent's out of control, the inflation's so much worse. The immigration is like, it's silly. Like we're not building houses in line with that. And so it's like, a lot of comics are moving overseas. Like in a way that no one moved overseas. For the first 10 years I was doing comedy, I think a couple guys went to the UK and that was it.

And now Aaron Chen's here, Blake Freeman's here, Amos Gill's here. For the first 10 years I was doing comedy, I think a couple guys went to the UK and that was it. And now Aaron Chen's here, Blake Freeman's here, Amos Gill's here. What do you think is the big motivator to, what was the biggest thing that was a problem over there? Post-COVID, I mean COVID was, COVID radicalized a lot of people. Is that what it was? Just the kind of control they put down on you guys? It was, and then the, I mean there's so much opportunity here. People keep saying the cost of living is going up in America and it is but it's like still

It's wacky that eggs are only 370 or something. That's so cheap for eggs for us Really? Yeah, how much are eggs over there more? Substantial yeah. Yeah, like how much give me I don't know I'm buying I'm buying free-range eggs Cuz we my wife insists on it, but I think if you didn't if you did like a milk to milk egg to egg You dominate interesting America has so far to go before it gets to be a revolutionary

14 a dozen whoa 14 bucks a dozen you guys pay for eggs. That's crazy. Oh man, if you got Coles and Bull, I mean the dollar's a bit different. The dollar goes up and down. So there's less opportunity, things are more expensive. And also there's, I mean. But what about COVID radicalized a lot of people? You got locked in your house for,

I mean it was literally in Melbourne. We were in Melbourne when it kicked off. My wife and I, and we had a newborn child, and she was pregnant with the next one. And they said, we're locking everyone down for six weeks. You can't leave your house. And we had better, not better, we had like stronger state by state regulations. So if you moved back, we were from Adelaide in South Australia.

They said it was two weeks if you came from interstate, so we just drove all night and got out, but then watched as people. It's like a 300 day lockdown. You couldn't do, it was one of the only places you could do shows, was in Adelaide. I like Josh Seps, he seems great. I saw him on here, I think you confronted him about the concentration camps. And it's like, yeah, we had camps where we concentrated people. I don't know what else you meant to call that. Yeah. Yeah, we had a disagreement too about myocarditis. And it was interesting, it's like,

you would get all these different... Now it's like firmly established as a higher risk of myocarditis for young people that took it. But back then it was really confusing. And I was like, why did I read articles that said it was a higher risk? And then he brought one up that said there's more of a risk getting myocarditis from COVID itself, which really didn't make any sense even in the argument, because back then we didn't know that it not only doesn't protect you from getting the virus, it doesn't even protect you from spreading the virus. So you still get it. So you still have a chance if that's true. But it turns out when I talked to Dr. Massim Mahotra, who is, he's a part of this whole maha thing too. And he was another doctor that was initially pro-vaccine and

eventually just realized there was a bunch of horseshit going on with all of it. He said that's not what they measured. They were measuring troponin levels. They were measuring like what happens when you get sick and that those levels are higher in a viral infection and he was saying that that's not indicative of what true myocarditis is which is a an enlarging of the heart and a scarring of the heart tissue. It's like it's a different thing they're looking for. They're elevating the number of people that are getting it from COVID by doing it this way he was saying. Oh I can see why you like it's hard to lose trust in the establishment like you want to believe that the people running the medical side of things and who are setting all the rules have your interests at heart and you should listen to them.

It's actually if you're in certain social circles, right? So if you're in certain social circles where people are very pro-science and very logical and rational and they are all in agreement of one thing, you don't want to be cast out of that social circle. You don't want to be thought of as being a fool. And so you don't want to be cast out of that social circle. You don't want to be thought of as being a fool And so you don't want to have any opinion that's opposing. What is this consensus narrative amongst these people? It's also I mean it's nice to be in that group because you get to you get to live in a world where the government Cares about you and they know what they're doing and this politician in a suit like there was a Yeah, but you've got in the realm for personal expression and politicians was tiny for a long time because it was you know

You know, that's what you want. Trump's blowing this up But I remember like Howard Dean did a weird scream and his career was that that's what it took back in the day to Ruin your candidacy. Yeah Well, how about I had to keep that illusion going that like these are very competent people who will not make a weird noise at Their own time For sure That was all they would need to latch on to and then they would like throw it in everybody's face. It would be all over the news and it would be over.

Yeah. There was no internet. You know? I mean isn't that a nice world to... That world? Like that 50s world of like, ah, you can, we've got a man in a white coat and he knows what's up. You don't have to do all the...

It's taxing to try and figure out how disease works. Oh, it's yeah. It's not fun. It's not fun to not trust anyone and always want to read like hundreds of different articles on any complex subject to try to get an understanding of who's telling the truth and who's not. It's a pain in the ass.

And the cost of getting it wrong is, you know, like if you get 19 things right and one thing wrong, they just go, you're a fucking idiot. 100%. Yeah. But I think the key is like you have to say why you got it wrong and then Express yourself like I get things wrong But I'll tell you why I got it wrong and then I won't lie and I'll tell you what I know now So if I know now that something's different than I thought I definitely always say it

And I always say I was wrong about this and this is why I like to get it out You got to get it out because it's important Like the whole thing is we're trying to figure out what the fuck is actually going on And when you're looking at like really complex like you get into something like the Kennedy assassination Yeah, which is one of the big ones in this country because there's a lot of people like well, let it go Let it go when then there's a lot of other people go no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Bullet and you know not fucking you know the grassy knoll and not kill all the witnesses You know they learned how to do stuff some of them. They got a lot better. So it's like so Jack Ruby Kills, I'm gonna get a lot of this wrong Lee Harvey Oswald Jack Kennedy

We have a photo of it right out there right yeah, but then when he's under arrest They're like two journalists who come and interview him, and I think one of them kills him I might jolly West jolly West the head of the ultra program? Yeah. Yeah jolly West visits him and he goes insane He'd never had any history of mental illness jolly West sees he sees Jews burning in hell and he's going crazy He's high because he was a Jewish man. Yeah, so he thought they were coming for him He's hiding underneath the fucking bench. You screaming he went completely They dosed him with acid. Yeah, this is the MK ultra people I think a journalist who talked to him before he died got killed by a some sort of gay karate chop a

Gay, it was like a gay. It was like a guy You chop him and he took a man home for a sexual encounter and then he was karate chopped to death. I think that's the official explanation. It's a very rare thing to karate chop a man to death. That's a weird choice. It was the 60s. It was cooler than karate chop somebody. Why did they know it was a karate chop unless they have a video?

I think that's the medical examiner said. Oh, okay, that medical examiner doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. He probably just stomped him. Well do you think, well who's the Manson family? The Manson? Yes. He was dosed with some sort of? Oh, 100%.

And I'm sorry if you've heard this before, ladies and gentlemen, but the book Chaos by Tom O'Neill is amazing. Amazing. All right. He's Greg Fitzsimmons' old neighbor. So Greg, who's at the mothership this weekend, who's awesome, one of my best friends, and I've been friends with him. I started doing comedy with him one week apart

when we did open Mike Knight. Does he have Boston guys will? Yes, known him forever. He's awesome. So he, and hilarious comic too, but I think it's all sold out. But he was next door to this guy, and this guy was a journalist, super nice guy,

they became friends. He's saying, I'm writing this thing about Manson. It was supposed to be for a magazine. It was supposed to be like 25th anniversary of the Manson family killings. But he starts finding all these inconsistencies and he keeps going further and further down the rabbit trap and he thinks the prosecutor's full of shit and there's some sort of a connection to the government. He's like, what the fuck is going on here? So he doesn't meet the deadline. So he keeps going. And so then he gets a book deal and he gets going on and on and on

And on and on for 20 fucking years for 20 years. This guy studies nothing, but the Manson case He's got stacks and boxes. Yeah, he's been interviewing people and then he puts together this book with help He had to get someone to help him organize it because he was so deep in the weeds He's got enough for another book. I mean, a pure obsessive but a brilliant guy. And this book, Chaos, it outlines all of the MKUltra involvement in the Manson family and all the different things that they were doing at the time with the CIA mind control experiments.

They were running brothels. Which they did definitely seem to have. 100%. All 100% real. You know about this lady? Dorothy Kilgallen Reporter cloaked in controversy I just say read this Okay, Dorothy Killgallen is best known for a column the voice of Broadway in the New York Evening Journal

Which was published in over 140 papers and for her role as the game show panelists the 1950s television program What's my line? She was hailed by the post as being the most powerful female voice in America. Kil Gallon spent a vast majority of her career cloaked in controversy, most notably surrounding her investigative work into the John F. Kennedy assassination. As a longtime skeptic of the Warren Commission, a study conducted by the United States government into who killed JFK, as well as who killed Lee Harvey Oswald. We know who killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

JFK's supposed assassin, Kilgallen, dove deep into the controversy. Some may even argue too deep. Kilgallen was under suspicion that Oswald did not commit his crimes alone and published several articles reflecting this belief. Jack Ruby, who allegedly killed Lee Harvey Oswald on November 24th, 1963, was only interviewed

by one reporter throughout the trial, Dorothy Kilgallen. Since her interview with Ruby, many noted that Kilgallen carried a file with her at all times. It remained under lock and key when not physically in her hands, according to those close to her. Kilgallen's file continued to grow throughout the investigation. In a conversation with her lawyer, Jim Garrison,

prior to, that's the guy who prosecuted, that was in the movie, Kevin Costner played him in the JFK movie. Prior to a trip to New Orleans with Dorothy later inexplicably canceled, he remembers her saying, I'm going to break the real story and have the biggest scoop of the century. Kilgallen's first trip to New Orleans was planned two weeks prior to her death when her husband Richard Kolmar found her with files missing by her hairdresser

in a bedroom she never slept in, dressed in clothes she would never wear to bed, reading a book she had finished and disliked, wearing glasses she didn't need for reading. Initial autopsy report, a Brooklyn medical office as opposed to the office in Manhattan where she lived, found her cause of death to be a lethal combination of alcohol and barbiturates. The report later amended to note that the barbiturate originally found, second all,

a sleeping pill for which she had been prescribed, was in fact a combination of two-in-all and nembutol, which she did not have access to. Although her death was eventually ruled a suicide, Kilgallen's husband noted that when she returned from a taping of What's My Line early that evening, she appeared chipper. Well, a lot of people do seem chipper before they go. I decided, yeah yeah a researcher by the name of Mark Shaw investigated Kilgallen's death found that she was under surveillance by the FBI through the Freedom of Information Act. Friends of Kilgallen recall her expressing fear for her life leading up to her death and she supposedly even

purchased a gun a rather uncharacteristic thing for her. Yeah, they whacked her. Yeah, they whacked her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've got to finish releasing her. In a recent release of the JFK files on October 26, 2017, a file entitled Dorothy Kilgallen by Richard Nixon was released, but its contents remain sealed due to reasons of national security. They whacked her. Yeah, was there a gay karate chopper? Do I make that up?

I didn't see that part. They whacked her. It seems likely. Yeah, she was digging into the investigation. Look, you know, when you talk to, like I talked to Oliver Stone about it multiple times and Oliver Stone, despite his advanced age, is still brilliant and his recall is incredible. His recall on the assassination, he's obsessed with that assassination. So he can tell you like who was involved and who did this and Alan Dulles and this and

that and Warren Commission report and then it goes back. The rabbit hole just goes so deep. It goes all the way, it goes all the way to Richard Nixon. Because it goes all the way to Gerald Ford who was on the Warren Commission's report and when they kicked Spiro Agnew out, they got Spiro Agnew on, you know, corruption. Yeah, they kicked him out. They put in Gerald Ford. Yeah, they kicked Richard Nixon out. Yeah with the Watergate thing Yes, I always thought was Richard Nixon got caught being a crook with that's no was he was not a crook It was intelligence agency plot. The whole thing was Tucker Carlson lays it out. Yeah

This Nixon reputation is starting to come back. Well, you know, I was starting to love Nixon again There's a lot of maybe for the first time stuff that he did. It's not good Jim Cote he wrote decided to write a book about the assassination of John F. Kennedy However, he died on the 21st of September 1964 I see that a man broke into his Dallas apartment and killed him by a karate chop to the throat that could happen to anybody That's a real thing that happens all the time This is the thing like how do they know they didn't just strangle him to the throat? Like, if you have damage to your throat, if you don't see the guy karate chopping him.

Well, it does seem like a weird flourish for the secret police to put out there. But that's like one of those things that you would say. Cothey just, oh, it seemed like a man broke into his apartment. Tom Howard, Tom Howard died of a heart attack, age 48, 1965. Who's Tom Howard? Oh. Oh, his attorney. Tom Howard died of a heart attack age 48 1965 who's Tom Howard? Oh? Was attorney Okay

Okay, and they both died they definitely give your heart attack they definitely could give you a heart attack The karate chop karate chop does not really like held on the karate chop That's the one detail that really stayed with me. How are you sure you can't tell I've seen so many guys get beat up And you can never tell what hit them. It could be in a very long bruise across the big forearm shin shin to the neck Easy people weren't people didn't have that sort of kicking ability in the way in the West at that time sure some people did Yeah, there was people that trained like an assassin if you were gonna be assassin you would learn Muay Thai Yeah, there was like legit Muay Thai. I was a knife Yeah, yeah, but if you wanted to make it look like it was like it was a bachelor flat Is that why I thought it was some sort of?

cause of death asphyxiation from a broken bone at the base of his neck Apparently the result of karate chop. You know, I'm suspicious. I think they probably thought of it as a karate chop because this is how people thought back then, but I would imagine that was like a baton on the neck where you choke a guy to death. Well, there was a time, I know in Austin Powers karate chop is like a cool thing. Early 60s people just found out about karate.

The other guy was accidentally shot by the police a few hours before when he was just surprised. That can happen. that can happen that can happen Jesus Christ, man When you read stories like this like if you're not a conspiracy theorist you're like It was the karate chop that made me think it was something had gone wrong Karate chops the only thing that drew me in I was happily signing up with the rest of the official narrative Do I seen a lot of guys get karate chopped in the neck? They're all fine. None of them died. Yeah, my've seen a lot of guys get karate chopped in the neck. They're all fine?

None of them died. My dad is like a big... That's not what breaks your neck. My dad really like, he really believes the JFK assassination happened the way they said it did. And he went to, he made a whole trip to Dallas and he went up to the building and he was like, he could have done it. He could have done it from here.

Well, here's the thing. So I've never really dug into it. But here's the thing. He could have shot JFK in the head from the book depository. Anybody who says any different has never shot a rifle. It wasn't that far. It was, I think, it was 140 yards. If you have a scope and you have an accurate rifle,

140 yards is not a long shot. And if you have practiced and you know how it's going to go down and you're prepared, you're going to know exactly where he's going to be. You're going to have the crosshair on him. You pull the trigger, you hit him in the head. And you might be able to get off a couple of shots. And some people have been able to recreate the three shots and they think that he got

off three shots and that's impossible. They recreated? Yeah, people have done it. They closed down central Dallas? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They shot off three rounds from a Carcano rifle in that same period of time Yeah, they didn't do it there. Yeah, but they did it It showed look you can shoot three times in the amount of time that it took

Yeah to drive but this is the problem with any conspiracy theories that like we got to look at all of it There are a bunch of things that don't Yeah, there are like a thousand conspiracy theories about JFK. And some of them are nuts, and then some of them hold up. There was my point though, is that that is undeniable, but it's also undeniable there was a lot of people that reported that they heard gunshots from the grassy knoll. There's also the the whole magic bullet theory, which is total

horse shit. That's the most horse shit theory that's ever been promoted. There was like an ice bullet that dissolved inside of... No, do you know the magic bullet theory? One bullet caused a whole ton of injuries in both men. What, it zipped around? No, this is what they had to do. Okay, there was a guy that got shot in the underpass. So there was an underpass and a ricochet hit the granite, the curb stone, and he got hit

in the head. So he got fucked up and he had to go to the hospital. And then they found the impact and they found the bullet. So they knew that this accounted for one of the shots that it missed. So then they had to account for two different entry holes on Kennedy and entry hole in Connolly. So Connolly was shot in the wrist and in the thigh as well. So you had to say that one bullet did all this damage in both people and then there was the headshot because they had the third bullet.

So they came up with one wacky theory and they found this bullet in pristine condition on the gurney when they went to visit in the hospital. So when they had JFK's gurney in the hospital, they magically found this pristine bullet. This is like when the passports fall out of the plane on 9-11. Yeah. Almost as ridiculous. But this one is so ridiculous because you have the physical evidence of the bullet, which is impossible.

It's impossible for a bullet to shatter bone, go through two different people, leave more residue, like more bullet fragments were in Connolly's wrist than were missing from the bullet. That bullet, that bullet supposedly went through two different people, shattered bone, unbolted them. That's a special bullet. As a person who's shot guns before, that's horseshit. That's not what happens when a bullet hits bone. So it's supposed to have gone through his back. This is the official explanation? Exits out his tie hole, yeah, like right where his tie knot is, goes into Connelly's wrist and then goes into his thigh. Shatters his wrist, leaves

fragments in his wrist, the wound left in the thigh, and then they find this magical, perfect bullet, pristine condition on the gurney in the hospital. I mean, like it seems weird. Was it Connolly's gurney that they found it on? Or JFK's? I might have got it wrong. It might have been Connolly's gurney that they found the bullet on but either way listen to me no I look I usually stop at

this point because I don't want it to happen anybody who says I don't want it that's what happened shut the fuck up then there's also the problem of the bullet hole in his neck now they're trying to attribute that as an exit wound but the thing is in the there's two different autopsies. There's the autopsy from Dallas, and then there was the autopsy from Bethesda, Maryland. And the discrepancy was the one in Bethesda, Maryland, I believe, called it a tracheotomy scar, or tracheotomy cut. So like they opened him up to put a trach in. The only reason why they would do that is they don't want to attribute that to a bullet that hit him in the front of the neck

I think there was a bunch of different people that were trying to figure out How do we make it so that it was only this one guy? Yeah, we Harvey Oswald might have pulled the trigger He might have been part of it. He does kill the policeman later, right? I believe so I believe they they most people believe he did that. Yeah Yeah, and well he already knew that he was on the run at that point in time, right? And then when he gets arrested, he says, I'm a patsy, I'm a patsy.

Okay, maybe, maybe he was involved, maybe he didn't pull the trigger. Maybe somebody else who was a real expert marksman. Because if you, he wasn't that good. Like people say he wasn't a good marksman, but let me tell you something about- He had been, he was like downgraded to marksman. but let me tell you something about... He had been. He was like downgraded to a marksman.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But here's the thing about shooting rifles. All right. When you're talking about like 500 yards, you're talking about really long shots where you're required to be prone and lay perfectly still. Yeah. Yes. I would say you really want to be an elite marksman to do that.

And there's a lot of technique involved in training and they're very meticulous about their preparation, their breath work. And it's like a very intense thing because you can't move at all. You have to be like so precise. But 140 yards is not far. It's not that far. It's like with the Trump thing they said a child could have done. If he had a scope.

That kid didn't have a scope. See the Trump thing was fucked because that guy was using iron sights. So iron sights are that's what it's like standard They don't you can adjust them slightly But like towards your side the closer to the shooter there are two posts and at the end There's one post and that the the like the scoop from the upper post it lines in He did have a scope also why why did they say that he didn't forever? I don't know.

I mean, well, I'll say like down here. But there was a photograph of it. So this photo down the corner with my cursor doesn't have a scope. Right. This is from the FBI evidence. Okay. But here's the thing. I'm pretty sure there was a photograph of it laying on the roof and it didn't have a

scope. And this is why, and this is not my theory this is all the people that I know that are in like the tactical world that have talked to me about this they were saying that he had iron sights see if you can find it if they show a photo of the actual rifle and then there's just nothing about this that's come out since then so if he had a if he had a scope that's even crazier that he missed because because that's a chip shot, it's not a hard shot.

You're 140 yards, you have an accurate rifle. So let's see, scoombit on that. It kind of does look like he has a scope. Go back to that again. A lot of these pictures from the, just talking of it, they're using a picture of a gun without a scope to confuse people. It's interesting. Okay, so it's hard to tell but go to the top one again and make that larger.

No, the one that's on the right hand side. Yeah. Okay. Okay, that looks a little bit like a scope to me. There's something above the barrel at the middle point of the gun. It doesn't look flat. It looks like there might be a scope. Okay, which is even crazier that he missed then, because this guy is shooting from a

very close distance, but he probably fucking panicked. He's a 20-year-old kid. But also, he turns his head just at the right, it's the miraculous head turn. Yeah. But the thing is, that's not an expert marksman. He did train a lot, though. That was the other thing. Like, there's a lot of people that trained in firearms with that kid.

So they knew that someone either told him to do that or he was preparing by himself to do that. Why does nothing come out of it? You would think. Because I think that MK Ultra shit keeps going. I think that it's like that Aerosmith song. Train kept a rolling all night long. I think it just keeps going.

I don't think they stopped. I think someone, whether it's our government or another government or some giant business interest, someone probably talked that kid into doing that, gave him the resources. He had five different phones. Oh man, he could have tricked someone into doing it. His entire home was professionally scrubbed.

There was no silverware in his home when they searched his home I mean, it's weird that there wasn't more I know there was like a guy at the golf course It was like a third guy maybe mm-hmm, but the temperature in the country at that time was No one was like actively coming out and begging the Dems weren't coming out and saying someone's got to kill this guy But they were going this is an insane Yeah, but it might not just be the Dems this which you have to understand. It's probably business interests If you're in another country, okay And this guy's actively campaigning saying that he's gonna raise tariffs and he's gonna cause you we're gonna make China pay We're gonna make Russia pay everyone's gonna pay

We're gonna make China pay, we're gonna make Russia pay, everyone's gonna pay. If you're in some military controlled country that's gonna lose trillions of dollars because this guy's gonna make everybody pay, you might hire someone to do something. Well this is why he goes Vance immediately out. This is why I put together this theory. Someone else must have done it. But you pick someone who seems scarier than you Right, you go. Well, if you kill me you get him. You think Vance is scary? I think at the time he seemed like the furthest

right Protectionist candidate that Trump could have picked from on the VP. I don't think he really is though I don't know what he's pretty reasonable and you have a real conversation with him. He's definitely conservative He's pretty reasonable, but he's also like a no-nonsense. No bullshit guy who is not he doesn't lack in compassion But he was the real like he was not the easiest Young electorally there were other people he could have gone with young. He's very religious You know, there's a lot of aspects of that that make people uncomfortable. The young one is pretty big, you know, like some young guy being the fucking president of the world. When's the last time it was like Teddy Roosevelt?

Kennedy was what? He was like late 40s? But he'd also been around, he was in known commodity, he'd been in it for a long time. He was handsome, he was pretty young. He didn't look like an old leader, he didn't look like Eisenhower, you know what pretty young. He didn't look like an old leader. He didn't look like Eisenhower. You know what I mean? Yeah, he didn't look like Ronald Reagan. But he was into the war. And that added like when you go to have you been to the Fredericksburg Pacific War Museum? No, it's great. It's a two hour drive. It's tremendous.

Yeah, but like they have a they have a mural out back for all the presidents since that war. And everyone's in World War II. It's not that America's looking for an old guy. Everyone is somehow, until Clinton, everyone is a World War II vet in some capacity. Well, you've got to think back then, everybody signed up for the war. Yeah. But generationally, America didn't want to move on from the World War Two guys.

That was like a comforting. Right. But it was also World War Two was the last just war in their eyes. Like we had to defeat the Nazis. Yeah, we had to stop the takeover of evil in the world. And then you got to the Vietnam War. And it's like, wait, what's going on here? This is not Korea seems more Korean.

Well, there's a lot of people that would disagree with you. what's going on here this is not career seems more korea's little well the lot of people who disagree with you you know but korea is also you know there's north korea's fighting south korea north korea's communists i don't have the same like it that korea doesn't occupy the same now doesn't have the same spot in people's heads and then really it's not one war that everyone's getting behind after that

now there's not one war that everyone's getting behind after that. No. No, there's not one. And you know, most people are real down on a war right now for good reasons. It's like, are we fucking for real still doing this? You know, and this was one of the things that Trump campaigned on, no more wars. Yeah. And that scares the shit out of people. You know, because then right away We're involved in this Iran thing like okay But you know, I'm so easily taken in that like I was I was terrified

I was like, oh, I don't want there to be a war This is terrible and then as soon as the bombs are dropped and Trump comes in and goes we're very strong. I'm like cool Yeah, like I it's so easy to get whipped up into a fervor There's there's some truth to that. Right. And there's some truth to maybe it wouldn't be the best thing in the world. If they developed a nuclear program and had nuclear weapons and use them on Israel.

But then, you know, you say, well, were they really close to doing that? Well, then you find out that Netanyahu has been saying they've been close to doing that for like 15 years and Tulsi saying they have no information on it. Yeah. But the thing is is like what do we know? You know, if they don't let inspectors in, what do we know? Yeah. You know, I could see both sides. To pull together over something. I found someone sent me the, like that Reagan towards the end of his term just kept giving speeches about how he wanted there to be an alien invasion. Yes. And he said, if only there was some alien force that we could all get together again against the aliens.

Yeah. But it is, that seems like America's ready for that. Some coming together. I can see that if you were in charge and you wanted to have civil unity, you would want there to be something like a war to pull people back together. Well, I think there's a lot of value in having no civil unity. I think there's a lot of value in keeping us at each other's throats. This is what I always try to tell people most of us are in the middle. Most most of us, especially after you get to a

certain age, you realize a lot of fucking things that people do. It's because, you know, they're allowed to do it. And it's stupid. And it fucks their life up. And maybe you should get your shit together. Also, there's a lot of poor people that need help and the idea that you're going to cut that off from them is kind of fucked up and uncharitable and un-American. But also there's people that take advantage of those programs and they stay with them forever and it kind of fucks up the whole community and that's true too. Okay, so how do you set the standards? And what do you do?

But most people, socially, are very much in the middle. Most people want gay rights and civil rights and women's rights and trans rights. We want rights. We want everybody to be free. We want everybody to do- They do have rights here. But rights are important.

That's how you get something. No, you just chuck the word rights on something. Rights are important. Like people say abortion rights, you just chuck the word rights on something. Rights are important. Like people say abortion rights and then people say gun rights. Yeah. That's how you know if the media is in favor of that thing or not. When I was coming up, if they say rights, then they go, this should be.

Like abortion rights were confected in Roe v. Wade. They just, it didn't exist beforehand. They said there was a, I mean, maybe people can pass that. People can legislatively have abortion on the books, but that's not what happened. The Supreme Court just said, we infer that there's a right to privacy somewhere in the Constitution. We're not going to be clear about where that is.

And so the judiciary can just make it happen. Well, that's how it got overturned, right? Yeah, because what can be done by the judiciary can be overturned by the judiciary. But there's heaps of stuff in America that just like the Supreme Court decided was going to happen. No one came in. Like gay marriage was just a Supreme Court thing. They just...

I think that's kind of also the will of the people. Like most people are like, let them be married. Like what's the problem? Like how does that fuck with your life? But like California votes it in and then votes it out again, right? Well, here's what's hilarious. Up until 2013, Hillary Clinton was openly stating, I don't think Barack Obama...

I think he said he was against it for the first time. Yeah, I think it was 2013 where Hillary finally said she was in favor of gay marriage, but they used to always... like have you ever seen those videos of Hillary being more MAGA than Trump about the border? I believe it. Oh my god. She would be Queen MAGA. She would be border? I believe it. Oh my God. She would be Queen MAGA. She would have a diamond encrusted, make America great again hat.

She would be the president if she was running today. And I'm not bullshitting. I am not. I think there was a... I am 100% not bullshitting. I think it's a Sam Talent bit. I don't know if he's still doing it, but he was going like, if Kamala had come out and said the word retarded, she would have won.

That's all she had to do. Nah. Sam Talott's funny. But he, yeah there was some, there's, I mean the Dems were always against the, like the progressive wing takes over, the woke thing happens at some point, but like Biden was out saying super predators. Bro, the Democrats were the ones who wanted to keep slavery. Some of them, The Southern Democrats. Yeah.

But understand that the Republicans are the ones that were trying to free the slaves. Things just get weird and get reversed. So now the Democrats are anti-free speech if it's hate speech and disinformation and misinformation and malinformation. All right. This is the Castro speech that I was getting into in a big is Castro so they ban it the revolution takes over in Cuba they ban a film They haven't had to ban a film up to that point But they banned the first film and Castro comes and gives like a two-hour speech to the intellectuals explaining why they're gonna start banning

Movies, what was the film it was called PM? It was a it was just a film about like poor black people having a good time. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of political content in the movie. But it gives this long, beautiful, 2,000-3,000 words at the top going, I'm listening to you and you're listening to me and isn't that great that we have a conversation? And then just out of nowhere he goes, the revolution's in control and your freedoms are not. You don't have a right to make whatever film you want. We're gonna decide. And people are clapping and going for it.

But if you take revolution and sub that out for progress or safety or anti-racism, people would totally get behind that. Yes, and this is what everyone who's been sounding the horn, including guys like Konstantin Kyssin from Trigonometry and Jordan Peterson and people that understand the history of

Marxism. They're like, this is how it always comes. It comes in the guise of doing the greater good for the people and letting the state control things. This is what happened in North Korea. That's how they all lost their farms. Yeah. Yeah.

They come in and then they centralize power and then everybody has to shut the fuck up because that's how people operate. I think from a, like if you have a materialist world view of the universe, that makes sense. I can see how you would get this. Like it's a weird thing to say God has given you a right to express yourself and to hang out with who you want. This is like a, this is why it has to be in the, it's either in the declaration or the constitution, but like these are God given rights and they're self evident.

Because if you were designing a utopia, which is what every revolutionary wants to do, you're saying we're fixing society, we're fixing human nature. There's nothing that would intrinsically make you say people have a right to say whatever they want. Like, that has to come from somewhere. That's a weird, it's beautiful, I love it. It has to come from suppression. I try and live my...

It comes from being under the brutal heel of a dictator for the entire country. But then as soon as they have a revolution, they take that away. You know, you use the weapon of your master. The revolutionaries having been under Batista and repressed and not allowed to say what they want, they come to power and they go, yeah, we're going to be doing that now. That's what the guy in power gets to do. But to say the state is seeding that, this is like a beautiful, strange, mystical outside world thing. Yes, this is. But isn't there a difference between taking over an existing country like Cuba that had What is seeding that? This is like a beautiful, strange, mystical outside world.

Yes, this is. But isn't there a difference between taking over an existing country like Cuba that had been around for a long time, a communist regime taking over, versus the establishment of a place like the United States, which is an exercise, like an experiment really, in self-government that never been achieved before. And it's not a coincidence that it's the newest country in terms of like superpowers And yet it's the one that's achieved the most in terms of cultural impact artistic impact intellectual impact

It's a hard argument that United States hasn't achieved more than anybody mean the fucking nuclear bomb was created here You know shut your mouth right? Yeah, allegedly we went to the moon. I don't think we did. But allegedly we went to the moon. Are you back on the moon? Yeah, I don't think we did. But you know, also a lot of assassinations, a lot of like overturning governments in other countries, a lot of shit. Yeah. It's not good. But the point is, like, this is the most free place and the most shit gets done. I mean, I don't disagree with that at all. And I think this is the progress that the human civilization goes through. It realizes that suppression ultimately is bad for everybody. It's bad for GDP, bad for like it's bad for patriotism, it's bad for everything. Yeah. It's bad for people's appreciation of each other. It's

hard to govern when people are fucking angry and then the break-off civilizations always seek more freedom. Yeah. You know, I think we ought to try one more time with Greenland. Give it a go. I think if Trump takes Greenland and global warming is real, that's the spot. Well Canada might have to become a state and then there's a lot of good land up there. I have a friend who went up to Greenland and went stag hunting or caribou hunting. They hunt caribou in Greenland. It was beautiful man.

The area they were at was fucking gorgeous. It was incredible. It was like these insane hills and these herd of caribou come through and there's just so many caribou. It's so beautiful. Yeah. It's so clean. They're just camping. They're sleeping on the ground. Get a Chick-fil-A up there a chick-fil-a up there no fuck it get a free way and a chick-fil-a

you ever have caribou no I can't compete with chick-fil-a you don't know what you're talking about I don't know I've never had caribou I want to go back this thing of like yeah America's done a great deal it's very free but they're like the rate of change in the culture is also unparalleled like you look at the Egyptians they're doing the same pictures for thousands of years, the feet all point in the same way and we don't mess with the artistic style. We like the medieval era, there's like a there's a homogeneity through time and a culture that gets passed on. If you look at America over the last 70 years, it's wacky. Like, ah, a couple nights ago I was watching like the number one song in America consecutively

on YouTube. So like they play 20 seconds from that number one song and then the next number one song. And early on it's all like guys in suits going, my baby, she's so beautiful, I love her, I'm going to take her to a dance. And then by the end it's like, you know, I'm a fist your ass and kill someone with my rifle. Like it's, there's a huge shift. Like all the institutions are extensively the same. The way people vote, the way people go to school, the actual culture

that's inhabiting all those things is like radically changing all the time. All the time. Yeah. And there's a bunch of different factors, right? So you have the 1950s factor, you know, which was like Elvis on television and Buddy Holly and all these people. And the drugs come in and then drugs come in. And so they were probably doing drugs back then too, but just probably not the good ones. And then the 1960s psychedelics. So the 1960s you get Hendrix, you know, you get the doors, you get the Beatles. When the Beatles and the Doors and the Stones come through, it's like, here are the first cool people ever. First cool people ever. And so then that all dries up when they pass the laws in the 1970s through the Nixon administration

to kill the civil rights movement and to kill the anti-war movement and make everything illegal. Then you get the cocaine era. So cocaine ruins music. The 1980s was like, there's some great music in the 80s, but there's also- Tusk is a great album. There's a lot of horses shit in the eighties too. There's still still brilliant artists.

There's always going to be brilliant artists, but there's a lack of that psychedelic progression that Hendrix style definitely shifts into a weird. Everything gets weird. Everything gets weird. Yeah. And the eighties, late eighties, they figured it out. They figured out how to appropriate the counterculture thing and put a corporate look on it. What was cocaine. They killed the psychedelics and it entered into an area of cocaine.

Like you see movies get real weird. A lot of movies are like real stupid and like they don't make any sense. They're dumb as shit. And then you go back to like 1963 and you see The Hustler. And you say, well, why were they so good back then? Oh, man. Why were so many of these movies so shit? Early 30s, late 20s. Yeah. Early Frank Capra just watches like a normal modern film.

Yeah, there's some great movies, man. They're old movies. But when you started comedy, was this early 90s? 88. 88. 88. So there would have been a period, it seems like Cocaine was big in American comedy circles

for a time. It was big back then. And it retreated. Yeah. But it disappeared for a time. It was big back then. And it retreated. But it disappeared at a certain... It doesn't disappear everywhere. There's some places that are still... They love the coke. I don't run into active drug addicts very often.

Well, comics burn out. They don't last. The weed comics last. The fucking coke comics don't last. Heroin people keep going. Well, until they don't. Yeah, but the red hot chili peppers look great They've been presenting their clean. I think they're clean for a long time

I think they did bake in from time to time. I don't know I think after by the way, I think they but they were a heroin ban for ages. Yeah, Iggy Pop I don't know if he's still on heroin, but he's looking oh, he's terrible poor Iggy. He looks so but he looked that way 30 years ago He's like a scoop. He looked like a world old man, but he looked old 30 years ago, but he had like he was lean Yeah, move around on stage with his shirt off, but now he looks like he's a walk Yeah, it's like something's wrong with you see the AC DC One that was like last week. You gotta see Iggy Pop first. How bad I'd saw Iggy Pop like ten years ago He was great. He's great. No, dude. I I had to kick a woman in a mosh pit

I was he was dragging people he was saying come on's great. No, dude, I had to kick a woman in a mosh pit. I was, he was dragging people, he was saying, come on stage everybody. And one of my favorite green room songs is passenger. Yeah. Fucking great song, man. After the show? I couldn't listen to passenger before a show. It'd be too sad. Really? Yeah. All right. I'm a passenger. What's he look like now? Is he, is this 2023? Yeah. He still looks good in the face. No, no, like he's still killing it. It's he look like now? Is this 2023? Yeah. He still looks good in the face? No, no. Like, he's still killing it. It's just he has a hard time getting around.

It looks like there's something wrong with his hips. It does look like he's got spina bifida now. I think he's got something wrong with his hip or something, which is super common, especially for performers who dance around on stage a lot and go crazy. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, see?

Oh. So he's having a year old man. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, see? Oh! So he's having a hard time moving. Still killing it. But, like, let me hear some of that. Check out, after that, bring up the ACDC at the moment. It's very...

Okay, he's very old. It's just... He's still got something. He's got it. He's still Iggy Pop, but his body's struggling. And like I know a lot of guys like Ted Nugent had to get both his knees replaced because he was jumping off amplifiers. Yeah. Maynard from Tool, he had to get his hip replaced his hip was fucked up so I Neil Diamond had the right plan just stand there there just sing your beautiful songs you can do that forever yeah it's a good move no they all get it's hard man you're bouncing around on the stage all the time stomping the

ground like Anthony Kiedis his knees all fucked up man he like I went to see them it's great he's great he killed it we went to see the chili peppers when they were in town and then afterwards he's got an ISIS real bad You know he's still on stage though. They don't notice it. Every time someone says they don't like the chili peppers I distrust them immediately Suck my kiss is a fucking great that whole album is start to finish Oh, yeah, I found a different video of them AC DC this year. I think that one video results Just kind of weird thing. Alright, there was one we saw. He looks okay in this one.

That's 2025. Yeah. There was a viral video going around where they looked a little slow and... Nah, he's still got it. I take it back. Yeah. But this is, I mean, if you were a classical composer, you just get to be old and wear your big powdered wig and keep writing till you're 80 as a rock star. A big part of it is that you're physically threatening and that women want to have sex with you right? Like this is... Have you seen Mick Jagger's girlfriend? Yes. She's a beautiful baby. She's so hot. She's so hot. She's so hot and she's like 30 or

something like that and he's Thousand I got to meet Al Pacino's baby mama, but you got to see the pictures of Mick with the girl the lady Look at this. Yeah, this is the one what's that? This is the one that went viral But he's just stomping on stage. That's the way he's saying oh Let me hear it Wow. Let me hear it. ACDC urged to retire after recent concert footage goes viral. Assholes. Let me hear this. He does seem tired. I don't think he should have to retire but Still play a long set That's our greatest export

That's for sure. We've never done anything that great before since listen Guys get old. It's hard to come up with the full power always when you hit that age But what was the point? Oh Mick Jagger and his new girl is fly honey Oh, she's a lot and he's at least a million years old He how old is it? Yeah, I got to see him like 10 years ago, and he seemed old then but he was still groovin Oh, dude. I saw him in town as well. I saw him at the circuit of the Americas. They did this gigantic outdoor concert It was fucking incredible. Look at her. Buh-buh-buh-bam son What's up now?

Dude, she's so hot. And she's like, I can't believe I'm with Mick Jagger. That's what talent does. He seems happy as well. He seems thrilled. I would imagine that would make you happy. I mean, yeah, but then she's talking about her young woman things, and you just want to read the Financial Times in peace. I don't know, man. Maybe that's why he's so good still maybe stays young still hip they fucking killed it man they

killed it at coda al Pacino I she was backstage and I another kid I got another one yeah yeah another one I got dragged away when I met her because people thought I was gonna ask weird stuff so this is a new gal oh, he's 85. Holy smokes. He still looks good What do you want me to do? He's got a great ass. I mean, they- Wow, she's hot It does start to look like you're- oh they split. I think that's the one I meant. That was the one that he split with But he's got another one Wow

Good for him. He loves breeding. He's still out there doing it. Listen, don't give Elon shit, don't give him shit. I just like it done the old-fashioned way. I like the Genghis Khan rooting his way across the steppe. I fear. Also, Elon's in public, he's one of the only billionaires who allows himself to be seen and judged and thought about. But if we had a list of the top 100 richest people in the world, we would know eight of them? Like these are the hidden figures who are off doing that. That's what I fear.

Well, the real richest people in the world are probably the oil bill. The Sauds. Yeah, because they don't even have to tell you how much money they have. Yeah. That's private. Once they're building an ice, what, tobogganing room in the desert. Bro, they're building that line. Have you seen that? Yeah, I don't believe that's going to be nice. Maybe it will be. They have so much money they can make it nice.

Yeah. Look what they did in Dubai. You ever see the time lapse photos of Dubai? But they didn't even put, you can't even go to the toilet in the Burj Khalifa. What do you mean? They didn't put like it's so big They couldn't get plumbing to work it so they have like trucks come along and pick up the poo from downstairs every day and have To drive it out. I think it seems like a fake. Well, that's an error. Yeah needs to be fired Somebody's probably killed someone has has been quietly chopped into pieces. Oh 100% right?? They've got- Cause how are you gonna fix that? The Burj Khalifa is like, how many stories?

It's too big. And it's all buckets of shit being carried out? I could be getting that wrong, but someone told me that they have like, semi trailers that come by in the morning. This is an old hoax. Is it a hoax? I take it back, I got one wrong.

I was right about the foot binding. I was right about- We should probably edit that out so they don't kill you. No, I love the kingdom of Saud. I'm a big fan. I could be got on Compromat so easily. Send me a new car. I'll say great things about the regime. No one has come to me. Not even someone selling dick pills or nothing. Not yet. It's coming.

It's, uh, I don't see, I. Come on bro, more appearances like this and it'll all happen. I'll be doing gamble, I'll be doing draft kings. Yeah, there you go. And I think I could, I'm trying to figure out what companies I would have on my podcast and wouldn't. Do you gamble at all?

Yeah, but I don't like the companies. I like, you know. Regular gambling? Regular, but yeah, money for this. It's ruined. I like, you know. Regular gambling? Regular, but yeah, money for this. It's ruined footy in Australia. Everybody's. Oh, is it? I think we're the, now I will, I will be right on this. Australia's the highest per capita gambling losses

in the world. Whoa. And it's, we beat Singapore. We shouldn't be beaten the Asian countries. Asians should have gambling down pat. Is that because you don't have freedom in any other place? So you went crazy? I think so.

I think everything is so safe that it's like, I've got to lose everything on this you go crazy on that one thing We go gambling thing. Yeah, cuz booze is expensive But then the way that they advertise on you you always have to see the line You can't watch a game of football with someone because they go but I just want their team to win anymore They want like this guy to get 27 disposals and the second goal of the game. It's like just I want to watch footy. But gambling is very exciting. Yeah there's a thing like that in MMA too. It's a big factor in MMA. I think like if your guy gets you know he wins but by submission then you're upset because he didn't knock the other guy out and you lost money. There's like

the Drake thing too because Drake spent he he bets like the right big money yeah the UFC and did he bet on Charles Olivera or Ilya Toporya that was nutty I wish that also it was a that was the first one of those I've ever met you bet 200 grand on Charles yeah see that's they call it the Drake curse there's a website that you're see. Whoever he bets on goes down. Yeah, Drake's UFC betting history. Returns zero dollars. Who is he? Well, he's not cursed when it comes to UFC overall though. He's up a million bucks.

Oh, all time from his public UFC bets, from his public ones. Over 25 bets, he's wagered $13.45 million, returning $14.48. Yeah, but everyone knows that guy. He's won 10 out of those 25 bets, losing 15 times. You go public when you win.4. Yeah, but everyone he's won 10 out of those 25 bets losing 15 times You go public when you win interesting. It's a guy who comes back to the office on Monday

But look at that. He's only one 40% of the time his average UFC bet size is 538 K That's interesting though because he's only one 40% of the time. He just bets big when he's sure and Interesting though because he's only won 40% of the time. He just bets big when he's sure and So he's ahead his biggest single loss was Adesanya to beat Alex Pereira in 22 the one that Pereira won the first one Single bet victory was John Jones over serial gone

successfully Predicting John Jones to win by submission interesting. Hold on but this is a whole website dedicated to it he could have sent this out. No no it's commonly known. He's betting on cricket yeah why is he betting on cricket? He likes to bet dude he's rich as fuck. He's betting on me. He gets his jollies off like throwing large numbers at stuff. He's made three bets on cricket returning 2.65 mil. So he's ahead. It's three for three.

So he knows what he's doing. There you go. He's making money. Yeah, but you always bet on the Royals and the Cricket. Well, if you're going to bet though, betting on sports where you actually know the game, that's a smart thing to bet on. I bet if I bet on fighting, I bet I'd be right 60% of the time. You'd be, there'd be a, you'd have a deal where they'd say, don't you, dear?

Oh no, you can't. The UFC won't let you. But that was only recent, man. That was recent because there was an accusation that one of the trainers had been posting on some website and that they knew that this guy was injured and the guy lost in the first round and there's a bunch of money on him losing in the first round because he had a blown-out knee I think there was a footy player in Australia who was betting on himself to kick goals Which was like not like you have to he was backing himself and it was like $15 or something

It was very small, but he just got in trouble for that He got in trouble for that even though I bet on himself. He's been on himself to do well I think if you bet on yourself to win that should be legal it seems I bet on the Eurovision song contest That's my go-to fighters have made like personal bets with each other like I'll bet you that's fine. Yeah That's what makes it more exciting. Yeah But there's definitely room for if if there's room for someone to throw it. That's an issue I've got is an issue You're an issue with fight your vision is a good bit If you found out that a fighter bet against himself, like, oh God, or the trainer bet

against the fighter, which has happened before. That has happened before. It was like anonymous back in the day, like in the old boxing days, like people could throw fights and you know, that shit happened all the time. Was it on the waterfront? That's why. Yep. Yep.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Mylon Brando. That also, that is 100% happened in MMA, especially in Japan. In Japan in the early days, there was a lot of fixed fights and you could kind of tell some of them, you watch them, you're like, oh my God, it's fixed. But it was to be like, because a lot of the Japanese stars originally in pride came from the world of pro wrestling. Yes.

Where they had determined outcomes. Yeah. And so some of these guys were stars and there's a few fights that they had as stars where it was a fixed fight But like that that Logan Paul My Tyson fight. Yeah, he could have knocked him out Earlier and clearly was choosing not to I mean he bows to him at the end It seemed to me like sparring. Yeah when I watched it, which You know, look I paid for it. They got me I thought it was gonna be a real fight, but I'm not mad because I'm just happy that Mike Tyson made a ton of money

Yeah I'm happy for Jake Paul that he made it and look if he decided not to try to hurt Mike Tyson at 58 years old Sure, but there's some guy out there who had a million dollars. That's the problem. Yeah, that's why look Maybe it was a real fight. Maybe that's just the level that they both fight at. Hmm. But it seemed a little sus. It was, I mean, we watched that in the green room, I think, and we couldn't get it going.

Yeah. But I think that at the end of the day, it's okay. It doesn't bother me. That's a different situation than someone like Terrence Crawford fighting Canelo Alvarez And I don't think that that fights legit if I saw that and I didn't think it was legit I'd be furious. Yeah, you guys are in your prime. He's the best fighters on planet Earth We finally gonna get to see you guys box and then they and you threw a fight, but that's not what's going on You know Mike Tyson Jake Paul was the most heavily wagered fight

in years. Okay, that's a problem. That makes it a problem. My opinion is, I just wanna say, in case someone calls me into court, I'm a fucking idiot and I don't know nothing. And don't take my advice. Don't take my opinion.

I love the Saudis, I love the Israeli government, I love everybody. That had nothing to do with them. That was Jake Paul promoting it. It's just like, doesn't bother me. There's compromising the sport and that's like bad. It's just like- If I bet on it, it bothers the fuck out of me.

Watching it is hard. Watching it with people who are so in on it. And then also the, man, the sports betting apps, they introduce like chat apps in them in Australia. So it's like, they're trying to take the place of social media companies where you go together and you meet your friends. Like betting should be exciting enough without having a weird power social thing.

They're just trying to make money, right? So they're trying to draw you in any way they can. Yeah. Yeah. When I was first starting to work for the UFC, I bet, I bet a bunch of times because, and then I thought like, I probably shouldn't do this. But I couldn't, I was thinking, I was justifying in my head. I was like I can't affect the outcome

Yeah, it wasn't a wall. There was no rule. It doesn't matter how you're calling it. It's not gonna I'm not gonna change and also like I like the fights and I'm not gonna bet that much anyway But then my business partner on it and I Aubrey he He would bet on things I would tell him to bet on he was up like 80% at one time Yeah, because in the early days, like in the early 2000s-ish, when they were bringing in guys from Japan and Russia, there was a lot of dudes that I knew about that the bookmakers didn't know about.

Where like, when Anderson Silva came over to America, I was like, bet the house. Bet everything on Anderson. I was like bet the house yeah bet everything on Anderson I mean bet everything because Chris Liebman who's a great fighter is tailor-made for that style and Anderson is one of the nastiest strikers that's ever competed in the sport he's so good and so accurate and he just ran through Chris Liebman in the first round I was like called it because there's certain fights where you go like this guy's special like Ilya Toporia like if Ilya Toporia is fighting a

regular guy like bet the house yeah on the Spaniard bet the house like that guy's special there's like when Alex Pereira first came to the UFC I was telling everybody bet the house on the Brazilian I'm like if he touches you you go into orbit yeah like he's just different. This is a different guy. And you just have to know about that before the bookies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but people knew about Pereira sort of, but they didn't have a lot of evidence of him being that good in MMA.

They had one fight in the LFA. There was another fight before that where he lost by submission. I think maybe he had one other win. But it was the kickboxing. So I'm a big kickboxing fan. And in kickboxing, he was a two division world champion in glory, which it was the kickboxing. So I'm a big kickboxing fan and in kickboxing, he was a two division world champion in glory, which is like the elite kickboxing league. But the thing wasn't that he was winning. It was how he was winning. He was flatlining

people. But you have to have actually watched the fight to get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd have to also be able to critically analyze his movements. They're just different. He's just doing something. He moves different than people. And when he hits guys, it's like, holy shit, man. They can all knock each other out.

They're all elite fighters. I watched that Olivera fight. And we were with Nate's team in San Jose. Someone says, this man's, the man who knocked him out, he's like, his punch is incredible. No one knows this. Like, within the, they were all saying like,

this is an easy, and Olivero's gonna lose because of this man's, and then when he hits him in the head, you go, because he knocks him out on the first punch, and then catches him on the second and hits him twice after that, but it's like, if you just, I don't know about fighting, and then watching that, I couldn't believe he was knocked out from, it didn't look like

it should have had that impact. Oh, it should, for sure. Yeah, when you watch the punch being delivered in slow motion, it looks everything like a knockout punch. He throws his punches with so much conviction, there's so much torque, and they're so perfect. Like his whole body, yes. Is coming in.

It's the coordination of the mechanics of his movements It's like that's a big part of but he also has very big fists, but that's a big part especially for 145 and even in 155 like he's undersized compared to like guys like roofie Who's like six two is like some elite guys that are big in that weight class? But the way he delivers his punches like you just can't get hit by him, man. He's got so much commitment and so, the timing is so perfect when he went blam with that right hand. That had everything on it. No one's eaten that shot. No one. No one. He's got what Farrasahabi likes to call the touch of death. It's the perfect name for it. It's cuz like he hits guys. They're just done man. They're done. I'd say

The greatest three fight win streak in the history of the sport. He knocks out Alexander Volkanovsky max Holloway and then Charles Olivera It's the greatest three fight win streak in the history of the sport. And Volkanovsky is currently the champ. He is now. He came back. But that's at 45 though. So he went up to 55. So Volkanovsky is the champ because he abandoned the belt at 45 because he wanted to pursue the belt at 55. He didn't want to make weight at Ilya. Didn't want to make 145 anymore. So it felt like it's too draining for his body and he'd be even better at 55. Turns out he was right. He's even better at 55.

Charles Olivera's really good, man. Really good. For him to starch him like that with essentially one punch is extraordinary. But he called it, which is even crazier. He said, I'm gonna knock him out with one punch. He said, I'm gonna knock him out in the first round. And he also, he had a celebration for his victory the night before the fight

So he went to a restaurant. He's standing on a bench. They're cheering. That is cool It worked. I mean listen if you're that good and he's gonna fight the scouser The scouser kept saying yeah, just kept going. I want him and then next to him. I'm like he thinks he wants him He doesn't want him. It'll probably happen eventually, because they hate each other, and it'd be very marketable. I don't know if it's going to happen next. This is my first year following it. I'm starting that. My brother watches it a lot.

There's a lot of really good guys at 155, though. If you wanted to do it according to who deserves the shot, it would be, in my mind, it would be either Justin Gaethje, who is a very compelling argument for Deserving the shot. He was the interim champion beat the shit He essentially like changed the progression of Tony Ferguson's career like that one Spent knocking him out just beat him down. Yeah, it was a brutal brutal fight and then you know I mean, he's got so many victories. He just beat Fazeev again after getting knocked out by Holloway.

He's one of the best of the best. And you know, he's fought for the title before. He fought Khabib. He's fucking really good, man. But what would stop him? And he's a big star, and he also deserves it. The other guy would be Arman Tsaroukian. Arman Tsaroukian was supposed to fight Islam for the title, but got a back injury supposedly because of the weight cut.

He had a particularly brutal weight cut and his back locked up to the point where he couldn't even fucking move. And so they had to call the fight. And so then they brought in Hanato Moekano and he fought for the title, like last minute replacement. So Sarukian is elite. He's as good as he gets. He could be a world champion. And so if I wanted to do it according to not marketability, but rather like who deserves it, it would be either Gagey or Sarukian. How often does that come into it as opposed to the marketability? I don't do that, man. That's the thing. It's like I'm not involved. I would not be the right guy for the business Yeah, cuz like I would I'm kind of a purist

I feel like if you're the number one contender you get the shot. Yeah, that's how I feel But I also don't know if I agree who the number one contender is all the time I think like that should be up for debate like it's very subjective like who decides like what victories count for more Yeah, or who'd be more compelling to fight for the title, who deserves it. Like some guys have to fight a ton of guys. And then other guys like Pereira, he got a shot at Adesanya, like just a few fights in. Yeah. But this is what then kills, this hurts boxing is when like you have a champ who just repeatedly

takes on people that they can walk over to extend the victory. There's a little bit of that. But because the UFC is all, it's one thing. The UFC makes you fight the big fights. And if you don't wanna fight the big fights, like John Jones didn't wanna fight Tom Aspinall, like then- They can strip him?

Well, he didn't strip him, John just retired. But I think John just decided to retire legitimately. I think he's partying a lot and he had a long career and he's the greatest of all time. At a certain point in time, you have to say legitimately. I think he's you know he's partying a lot. He had a long career and he's the greatest of all time. Like at a certain point in time you have to say enough and at 37 as the heavyweight champion retiring undefeated that's probably a good move. You know he's got one loss but it's a bullshit. Have you seen those late Muhammad Ali interviews where he's going back? He's going back again and people are begging him you don't have to do this. It's over.

It's fine that it's over. You're the greatest. That's fine. He didn't have any money, man. How did he not have any money? Because he got ripped off. He got ripped off, man. He got ripped off. And a lot of these wild, impulsive dudes, they spend all their money. Like Tyson spent hundreds of millions. Yeah. He bought tigers

and shit. He was joking around about it. He had Lamborghinis and tigers and mansions. He had a mansion in Ohio that he just abandoned. And like you could go, like there was an online tour of this mansion and you can go and like online, like someone broke into the mansion took photos of it and everything. There's a guy who did that with Kanye's mansion in LA recently. There's an Aussie, he's written a book about John Safran, who's one of our best. Really? Yeah, he wrote a book about- He trespassed?

He wrote a book about squatting in Kanye's mansion. He was like, you could just come in through the shrubs out the back and I finished the book sitting in Kanye's house. He was always doing wild stuff. He was a filmmaker. He like ran naked through the streets of Jerusalem, I think. Jesus Christ.

What else did he do? He got crucified in the Philippines. Crucified, like on a cross? Yeah, like at Easter they ritualistic, they really drive nails through your hands, but they cruc got crucified in the Philippines? Crucified like on a cross. Yeah, like at Easter they they ritualistic They really drive nails through hands, but they could like people in the Philippines. Yeah, he did that He did that he went got for the end for the season finale of one of his shows. He got crucified in the Philippines Oh my god, what a fucking nut. He's wild. He's a very exciting. What's his name? John Safran? Yeah, he is the man. He had a good podcast

He stole a lot of Eurasian women's underpants to see if he liked the smell of them better. Oh, fuck this guy. Why? He keeps stealing chicks underwear. No, and then he like, he took other underpants that were not Eurasian to see if he was attracted to. He stole his Eurasian friends underpants. Jewish Australian comedian journalist. That's a lot. Yeah. Spent a week living in one of West's homes in Los Angeles.

As if Kanye didn't hate Jews enough. Well, I've never heard him speak on this. I've never heard him speak on John Zeffron. Isn't it kind of funny though that a Jewish guy is the guy who squatted in his house and wrote about it? I think that's why he did it. I think he was like... Oh, that's hilarious. No, he's wild. He's hilarious. Yeah, he was... That's crazy. Now that he's writing books, but his documentary series were great. He was in a show called Race Around the World and everyone else would take it very seriously.

They had six aspiring filmmakers. You know what the nuttiest spending of money was? Was Evander. Evander Holyfield, who was the heavyweight champion of the world. He made the biggest fucking house. It was an insanely huge house. And then I think he sold it to Rick Ross the rapper, but it's the house is insane I don't know how much it cost I

Mean, I don't know how much it cost. I'm I would I don't even want to guess but it's craziest house I've ever seen in my life It's like a house that you would say if I'm the baddest motherfucker on earth I want the baddest fucking house on earth. See a gypsy He's a Vanderhoof field. I don know. You don't know who Vander Holyfield is? Oh my god one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. Have you seen the gypsy houses? He beat Mike Tyson. Vander Holyfield beat Mike Tyson when he was Mike Tyson. I know very little about. He knocked him out. He stopped him. And then he went and bought a... And then Mike

Tyson bit his ear off. Oh he was the ear biting guy. The ear biting guy. That was the second fight. I didn't know about the ear biting. That The ear biting guy. That was the second fight. I did not bite the ear bite. That was after Tyson beat him up in the first fight. In the second fight, he bit his ear. Was he losing the second fight? Tyson was losing. Okay, that's why I did that.

Show Vanderhoof's house. Look at this place. Bro. 44,234 square feet and has 109 rooms. It's actually very tasteful. 134 square feet and has a hundred and nine rooms including a hundred thirty five foot Excuse me hundred thirty five seat theater a bowling alley and a dining room that accommodates a hundred people Where is it so large they named the highway on which it sits a Vanderhoof e field highway That's crazy. That's it. That's I thought it would be bad. No, no, no, it's not

I love no, it's gorgeous. It cost a, that's, I thought it would be bad for me. No, no, no, it's not bad. That's a lovely. No, it's gorgeous. It cost 200, an estimated worth of $230 million. Is worth it. In 94. What is that, the wood paneling? In 94, around that time, he had an estimated, oh, excuse me, around that time, he had an estimated worth of $230 million.

It's, it's- That's in Georgia. An amazing house. I mean, it's fucking spectacular. And now Rick Ross, the rapper lives there, which is like the perfect rapper house. You gotta spend it on, look at that pool. Oh, it's gorgeous.

And it's a giant piece of land too. I think it's a hundred, yeah, 105 acres. See if you can see it in the image of it from the outside. Yeah, that one where you see, like look at that. Come on, son. If you're a Vander van to Holyfield that's the kind of house you want to live in when you're the baddest motherfucker alive look at that place so beautiful I get hung up on his holy yes yeah I the yachts I like looking at their super yachts I look like a Jeff Bezos soupy oh they're not but this

house is fucking incredible you'd feel so lonely across by buffaloes and shit you have your friends live in there? Yeah, but you... You got buffalos? You see them every third day. Oh, that's cool. He's got his own buffalos? That's dope as fuck.

That's such a rapper move. Have your own buffalos on your property? I love it. Rick Ross thanks his neighbors for helping him return his buffalos. And how does Rick Ross have that? His buffalos just hanging out. They wandered over. Helping him return his buffaloes. How does Rick Ross have that money? His buffaloes just hanging out. They wandered over. Helping him return his wander buffaloes. He had to hire some cowboys to bring his fucking animals back home.

Yeah, no one needs to. Why not though? Maybe I do need to. Maybe you do. Maybe if you become fucking huge and you start doing arenas in America and you develop an insane amount of money and all of a sudden you got giraffes at your house. Very hard to say no to giraffes. McCann,'t what the fuck I thought you weren't gonna go full Rick Ross No, I mean I I would go I feel very lucky that I got to open for Shane and he lives very humbly Yeah, but you're like Matt still drives his old car. You're gonna get in a big fancy car You're gonna go crazy. I would like a Rolls Royce Shane lives humbly, but he's also got a Mercedes S-Class

He this is my time. he's also got a Mercedes S-Class as you know. This is Mike Tyson's house they got abandoned. Giant TV. It looks like somebody broke the TV. Oh yeah they broke it. I mean it was abandoned for a long time so they broke all this shit. That's crazy so people just would break into his house when he wasn't there so did he just leave it there or did he just well I mean he probably sell it and no one bought it so that makes it abandoned you know. I think Michael's house. He sold it a loss because of everything he'd done to it Some guy just actually bought it and recently an Airbnb He tried to take the shoe gate off he'd like the gate was a pair of Jordans or something That house is only worth 1.1 million. That's how crazy after it's out for that's a steal

Oh after it's out for our work you have to do to fix it back bro If I lived in that town and I found out Mike Tyson's house is for sale. I'd like let's go It's been a lot of fentanyl. Let's go you think so, you know, hi Oh in the abandoned mansion, yeah, but I'll just use some sage Someone did sage last night backstage He left and there was an odor backstage last night and I came off stage and it was gone sage And I yeah God working security said we burnt sage. I didn't know there was a big sage burning.

Was there someone evil in the room? I think someone might have just, I won't name who it was, but someone might have left a terrible smell. I think someone was... That definitely happens in that room. There's a lot of people eating weird food that gets delivered to that room. Yeah, I mean I... Oh man, Cam Patterson, I mean, I...

Oh, man. Cam Patterson, I don't want to... I should have said just a guy. I shouldn't have added it as Cam Patterson. But he farted? No, when he headlined, he bought like... He bought like enough fried chicken for 50 people, and it was just me and his whole...

It was like one of the first times I was hanging out with all black people in America. I was just quietly eating my... Was it Gus's? Did they get it from Gus's? It was like, no, I don't know where it was from. It was huge and it was beautiful. And I thought, I didn't know we had to do that. And headlining, do we have to get food for everybody?

No, we don't have to. No, I love it. You could definitely order food. If you ever want a headline there, we'll order you food. Well, I, man, I have had good meals in that green room. Yeah, we too. We get Terry Black's delivered all the time. Terry Black's is great there. We'd have Not a Damn Chance burgers.

Brian Simpson ordered ramen and didn't want to eat the eggs. Everyone looked at me funny for eating it. He said, I don't want these. And I said, I'll eat them. I'm pretty hungry. Why not, man? There's also, it's kind of a food, there's a pizza place next door and there's Chick Flow way down the road.

It's a really good taco truck up the street too. And the Diddy dog is good. There's a lot of things in vans. Yeah. But I am more suspicious of eating out of trucks and vans now than I used to be. Yeah. I've had enough. What I like is the Mexicans doing the weird hot dogs with like whatever.

They've got huge onions and capsicum. Oh yeah? I go for that. Oh, capsicum, you're a hot sauce guy. I love, I just like those men. Yeah. With like a thousand things and a little hot plate. There's less of them now there than there used to be. Who can say why?

I hope they get to come back. Who knows? We'll see. It's a, that was what I'd always like, there was always a contingent of the American like people chatting on cable news who would say that illegal immigration wasn't a huge thing and that people were inflating the numbers and then when I got here and I no one warned me but I was like setting up a house and went to a Home Depot in the morning and it was like I was like a hundred and fifty guys just out there this I mean this is old hat and Americans don't talk

about it anymore because you've just all known for decades this is what happens out front of a Home Depot. Well especially LA. If you go to LA it was way higher numbers in LA I think. Texas actually has some pretty high numbers too though. They just they have to figure out a pathway to citizenship for these folks and amnesty for people that have been here and established and taken root. Getting in the frank door is a bitch. Yeah.

It's a... And also a lot of those people are good people. Good people, hard workers. What I liked is that the hombre is out front of the Home Depot. A lot of them are wearing like pro-American gear, like big American hats and bald eagle shirts and things. So it's like, I'm going to be the most pro-American. Yeah. Well, they just need a pathway.

Let's make sure that they're not cartel members and criminals and murderers. That seems easy. Yeah. It seems like it's doable and it's also they're valuable. Like these are people that come over here with ambition. That's what this country wants. But why would anyone... People want a better life.

This is so like, I think if you polled Americans, like huge numbers of people would support that. I agree. So why doesn't anybody... It's a good question. Why can't anybody get it together? Well, the thing is, it was... I think it's an overcorrection because it was so bad for the last four years

where they had an open border and they were encouraging people to come in. They were encouraging people, they were helping people, they were moving people to swing states. The problem is when you have more- They admit it. They're admitting it. I watched the Federman one where he was going, yeah, what you got to do? Yeah, admitting it. This is crazy.

It's crazy because the thing is it affects elections in more ways than one, even if they can't vote, it affects the amount of congressional seats. Yeah. Depended upon the population, regardless of whether that population is legal or illegal. So if you have 20 million people living in a place, you get a certain amount of congressional seats. Regardless of if they're registered. Exactly. I mean, that's. That's where things get weird. That's the reality of politics in America and they wanted to stop that and the Democrats did not the Democrats wanted to keep going that was one of the things that Trump ran on But then also he gets in he's like, can we get the white South Africans out here immediately? Can we move a million white South Africans to Arizona?

Right because like what you're bringing them in but you're not bringing the persecuted Mexicans in like, okay It seems like a pathway would be. But it's also like. The things I had to do to get in here were not. The Africa thing is nuts, man. The South Africa thing, like the killing of the farmers. Like people wanna deny that that exists. I have seen the rally to kill the boar, kill the farmer.

Oh yeah. He's really, he's doing it. I've seen that. And then he gets on trial and he goes. He's saying it, boo boo boo. And he goes, I was saying kiss. I said kiss the boy right Yeah, with his cold dead eyes. He's a spooky cat. Yeah, I forget his name. He's uh, yeah

Yeah, they got some things to sort out Indeed. Well, listen, I can't I'm glad you're in America That's a terrible note to go out on Johnny meat. Johnny bone said I just reentered the testing pool that lasted about two weeks Figured we keep everyone's options open a lot of the fighters are tweeting right now They're very excited about fighting on the White House lawn. Oh, that's right So I'm gonna fight on the White House July 4th 2026 White House lawn. I knew about it I kept it under my hat. Okay for months. Sorry people. They're gonna fight in the Rose Garden They're gonna fight on the White House lawn. 20,000 people. 25,000.

Connors in? It's the... yeah. He says he's gonna be the president of Ireland by then next year. He's chosen a weird time to run. But the world's weird. Mcken, I love you to death brother. Thank you for being here. Thank you very much. It's been awesome having you around. I had a great time. You're a fucking great guy. If I said anything crazy I didn't mean it. You're very very funny too, and if said anything crazy, I didn't mean it. You're very, very funny too. And if anyone hasn't seen you, just stand up, go see him. I can't recommend you enough.

You're awesome. You've changed my life. Can I say something touching at the end? Okay. All right. I mean, I was poor. I had no opportunities. I got past at that club and it's revolutionized.

I get to pay my rent on time. I get to do comedy often and people are nice about it. This is, it's been very very strange and I couldn't have done it if you hadn't set that club up. I appreciate that very much and that's the whole reason why we set it up the way we set it up in the first place. We wanted to make it a place where that can happen and like I said about like open micers that are good, they just never saw a path and couldn't figure it out. I think we can save some of those people in the future. I think we can lessen the attrition rate and we can make better comics

and make a real supportive community, which is what we're really doing. And that was the whole goal of the place, is to make the best club possible. And the best club possible has to have development. You have to have people coming up that are really good. It's like, that's the key that a lot of these like improvs and stuff they miss. They don't have like a night where you can just a bunch of people are doing 15 minutes.

They don't develop a local community. And so they only rely on the headliners to come in on the weekend. And the rest of the shows you have various headliners do one night or two nights or something like that which is fine occasionally but the reality is you want a Vibrant development community and if you don't have that you're not gonna get new talent Yeah, only gonna have import talent every week. There's three cities in all of America where you can reliably do it He's gonna be to yeah, this is this is changed. Yeah, and I Shane brought me over here. I want to shout him out.

He's the best. I was in Ohio. I was having a good time, but I had no, there was nothing happening for me. And then the fact that there is a place that you can come and if you're going to work hard and do it. Well. I mean, that's insane.

It's awesome. Ah, look, I don't want to go on about it. We're happy to have you, brother. I'm very touched. Thank you. God bless you. Tell everybody your Instagrams very touched. Thank you. God bless you. Tell everybody your Instagrams, they can follow you.

Oh, at JDF McCann, the James Donald Fools McCann catamaran plan. That's a great podcast that everybody should check out. I think they've got books of poems. That's it. Okay. Beautiful. Hey, thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you, brother. Bye, everybody. Thanks for watching!