The Joe Rogan Experience - #2354 - Joe DeRosa

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

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The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Joe DeRosa taking notes. Look at you, scholarly young man. There's so many things I want to talk to you about. Yeah? Yeah, this is like a really This is really interesting like like to sit with you one-on-one like this it really is because and I say that outside of

Who you are to the world which is obviously impressive? I say it to you just as a comic that knows you and has been friendly with you for many years We don't get a you know usually when I see you it's at The mothership green room 50 people around 50 people. Yeah, it's your place. There's a lot going on and I was like man It's gonna be interesting to get to sit like across from Joe and just talk to him like and have a conversation What did you write down? I? wrote sober sober

Which I'll explain but family was the first thing I wrote which or the second thing I wrote but the first thing I wanted to say was It's incredible man because I was in there last night my special came out yesterday, and I was in the club last night I just dropped in real quick to say hi to Tony and and Ari was Around for his last night before he yeah, what is he doing? He's going on the walkabout some secret He just sent me some text message Said this weekend was perfect for my send-off from stand-up comedy and they go. What does that mean my send-off? What are you doing? He's can weirdo. He's going

He always has to fucking throw his life into a turmoil every couple of years. He's the weirdest man I've ever met. Oh, he's so weird. He's awesome though. I love him. He's amazing. He's one of my best friends. He's a unique, very unique individual.

That's a one of one. Yes. And he's done some stuff. He's a polarizing individual to some. Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. He took his shit on stage with a note inside of it during a Skankfest show. He shit on the plastic and then pulled out the note and read it.

Yeah, I remember that happening. Yeah, don't do that. I talked to him about it and he goes, I go, Ari, I love you. Why do you make it so hard for yourself? And he goes, he got mad. We were sitting in the green room, it was just me just me and him, and he got mad, and he's sitting there, he goes, oh yeah, oh yeah, and censor jokes. And then I go, no, no, no, I'm not into censoring jokes. I'm saying you shouldn't bloody shit on a stage. And he kept going, and I look him in the eye, I go, Brian, you did the only thing I've ever

seen shake Brian Holtzman. Or Ari, sorry. I go, Ari, you've done the only thing I've seen shake Brian Holtzman or Ari sorry I go Ari you've done the only thing I've seen shake Brian Holtzman I saw Brian after you did that and Holtzman was like I don't know but that's what he wants that's what Ari wants mission accomplished oh my god yeah he's like you know he's he's the real deal he's really fucking throws it all into the fire. He runs right into the woodchipper. Let's say yes he But I like it like he thinks he's thinking about like creatively you hit like dips and you don't know what to talk about anymore

And sometimes you need to go on a walkabout Yeah, I think I see him and I admire it greatly because it's so opposite of how I'm wired but Yeah, it's not me either. I don't dig it. But he goes like months at a time with nothing but like a burner phone Yeah, no text message. No emails. No nothing. I said to him yesterday. I go I'm gonna miss you, dude He's like, I'm gonna miss you too. I go I go please stay in touch He goes I go please say that she goes he goes I go, please stay in touch. He goes, I'll hit you up in a couple months with a number from another couch. Yeah, he likes to do that. But it works for him. He's not faking it. He genuinely enjoys

doing it. He's smart, you know? He's like, I gotta throw my brain into a totally different environment every now and again and see what's really going on I think he likes the challenge that life can be like I think he likes the idea of he's one of those guys Where if he says that scares the shit out of me He's first in line to do it like it's it's all about like if you don't face it What's the point you know right so I think he creates these? Incredibles it's so funny. You know when you discuss what he's about to do with certain people some people go that's insane What and other people go oh my god. I admire it. You know what I mean like it's sort of like the guy that killed the United

healthcare CEO You know what I mean? It's sort of like the guy that killed the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Depending upon your perspective, it was either so fucking awesome or, oh my god, they're going to start killing CEOs. Luigi Chafeer. And he's so handsome. Yes, he is. The thing about Luigi, though, is Luigi picked the right person to kill. Not like meaning that guy. I mean a healthcare executive.

You're gonna get the least amount of sympathy. Oh yeah. You know what I mean, not that individual one. Look, you shouldn't kill anybody. I can't believe I have to say this, but yeah, don't go shooting people. I agree. But also, like when you realize how,

you know Ben Askren, I don't know who his healthcare provider was, but Ben Askren, he developed some kind of crazy pneumonia and then it became necrotic. So it like ate holes in his lungs. He's 40 years old. So former UFC fighter, former Bellator champion, elite athlete, fantastic wrestler.

Had to get a double lung surgery, double lung replacement surgery at 40. And insurance didn't wanna cover it. It's insane. It's insane. What are you talking about? He's going to die Like he doesn't have lungs anymore. He was on a fucking a ventilator for months. He didn't have lungs anymore I can't even fathom. I just had I just had a bunch of water damage I'm a dishwasher leaked while I was away and I had a bunch of water damage in my condo that I had to get Obviously were fixed there's rotted wood and caught its mold and all this stuff and for my insurance company gave me

Sort of what I needed to cover it, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I was furious I can't fucking imagine it was your in a situation like that where it's your health or if it's your home like what the people with the fires Oh, yeah, I can't even imagine the fucking rage Like it's it's it's undefine able and they wouldn't cover so so that's such a weird game They're playing their businesses pay you as little as possible Such a weird game they're playing their businesses pay you as little as possible

And get you to give them money every month so that maybe if something happens, they'll pay for it Maybe but maybe not I have a friend maybe not maybe maybe not maybe you need a double lug transplant They're like, nope, we're not gonna cover that. That's too much money. Yeah. Yeah come to court. Yeah, or figure it out Insurance has become buying the protection plan at Best Buy You know where it's no best buys protection plans way better It's way better if you buy like a new Samsung Galaxy phone You buy the protection plan at Best Buy and then it fucks up on you bring they give you a fucking brand new one They just have you fill out a little paperwork. You show your receipt. They shake your hand. Thank you You say thank you to them and you fucking great

Insurance gables the craziest gamble ever I'm gonna pay you every month and hopefully you'll be kind enough to cover my insurance if something goes wrong It is fucking wild dude. I have a friend who's a lawyer who has to often rep insurance companies Oh my god, and I said to him I said dude with all due respect I'm not coming at you I know how do you how do you sleep at night you know it's a tough position to be in and he said he goes here's how I justify it if I get the insurance company off or I save them some money that does trickle down to the users with their premiums making insurance continually as

Affordable as possible he goes the second I lose for my client They turn around and fuck everybody even more So he's like that's the one little silver lining with it like I guess you know, but that's a very sad That's a weird silver lining. Yeah, that sounds like someone trying to cope I have to kill some people. There's an overpopulation problem, Jodorosa. So we're going to have to go around and kill people. That's what that sounds like to me.

It's like, what? It'll make it better for everybody else. There'll be less resources being depleted by the people we kill. Like, what? Do you think that there's a thing? His is more job injury stuff. I know.

And it's so gaslighty. It's so gaslighty. If we fuck these people over, it'll Do you think that there's more job injury stuff? It's so gaslighty. If we fuck these people over, it'd be better for everybody else. Cause then you could feed the demons. The demons will be appeased. God, you know, I didn't ever thought of it that way. And I had a feeling as I was saying it, you were going to flip it into a thing that was going to leave me disturbed. And it has this episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Summer is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. What do I mean by almost? Well you can't get a well-groomed lawn delivered but you can get chicken parmesan delivered. A day in the sun? No. A bottle of rum? Yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that for almost almost anything

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But you can deny them coverage because you just can make some sort of a subjective Decision whether or not this person should get coverage and then you know, they're gonna die and they've been paying for insurance for years Yeah, how do you do that? That's kind that's like a pact with it Like you could just sign here and then they're covered and then they get this operation you do everything you can to help them And then everybody loves your company or you could say I just want the money now. It's dark. It's dark. It's dark It's just there's no pitchforks There's no brimstone. So you don't think you know, you don't think it's demonic The thing that leaves me without hope and I am NOT a very hope-filled individual

But the thing that leaves me without with with even less hope every day is I feel like the culture and people in all positions, you know, but yours is We're talking a very macro example of the thing. I find that more and more people every day put themselves, they position themselves in a way where they say, I will not be accountable and I will force you to be the one that has accountability

to hold me to something. And until you hold me to something where I cannot squirm or pivot in any way, at that point I will then be accountable. And I feel that more and more people operate like that, obviously on a corporate level, but also an individualistic level. It makes me very, very sad. It's like having so many people

that you encounter in your life, sometimes it's friends, and you're sitting there going, really, I have to be the adult? I have to sit you down as a 48-year-old man and say to you, what you're acting like right now is fucked up. Why do I have to do that with you? Because you're not gonna do it, so I guess I have to.

And the more that you try to hold yourself to accountability, and I'm not patting myself on the back in any way, but I find that burden grows and grows and grows, and you just start to get to this place where you're like, what the fuck is going on? It's like an epidemic of ethics at a certain point. Especially if you get indoctrinated

into a real cutthroat corporate environment. You know, those guys can justify a lot of stuff because that's in the culture. Like our culture is talking shit to each other. Like the way we talk shit to each other, like there's a lot of people in a lot of other jobs that would have a giant problem with what you and I think is awesome. Like if you cracked on me and it was fucking awesome and we're all howling, like I could get you in real trouble if we were accountants. You know? If we were accountants, that'd be a giant problem.

So we're used to fucking with each other and we're used to laughing about stuff and we're used to saying ridiculous shit that we don't really mean just for fun. And most people aren't. So this is our culture. This would freak, like if you got normies and you brought them into the green room of the mothership and we're all just hanging out one night just talking and having fun Probably freak them out. Yeah, people talk like this like Jesus Christ. You guys are at work and you talk like this This is crazy. It's why comics get I've seen people get very offended who aren't comics that get brought into a green room

Right and the comics are kind of ignoring them or making it very clear. We don't want you in here Yeah, and people think that that's the comics thinking who the fuck they are. It's not it's like guys We have a thing we do you're not part of it You're not gonna understand it and I've seen more than once somebody get offended by something We're saying who shouldn't have been in here in the first place. It's usually someone's boyfriend or girlfriend. Yes. Yeah, more Yeah, I'm trying to be nice. Yeah, it's someone's girlfriend once with a guy But you got to count. But you gotta count it. You gotta count it.

Yeah, once in 1968, a man got offended in a green room. There's some guys that are just notoriously make bad decisions. And then they bring their bad decisions around for everybody else to revel in. God almighty. I mean, is there anything worse? Right, but this is just our culture. That's the most minor of things to worry about. Someone fucking up the vibe of the green room with dopey talk, which is fine Which is fine, but it's so much better than in that court cup cutthroat

So like it literally rewards sociopathic behavior Like to be a person who thinks entirely on the bottom line of the company This is my job as a blah blah blah. You know, my job is to make sure that we make more money every fucking quarter period, end of discussion. And then you get in that mindset and that's what you're trying to do. And everybody else is trying to do that too. So they're all fucking each other over.

And then what's the ultimate form of that politics. Yeah. The ultimate form of that, the ultimate form of fucking everybody over and making the biggest exaggerations and lying the most about people and using the most leverage and wild to watch man and what what you're describing Is it's you know, it's it's quintessential Rod Serling shit Yeah it's when people's it's comes down to survival Because eventually, that to me is what the technique is and how you get it to keep working in your favor

if you're the asshole at the top of the food chain, right? You say if I make people desperate enough, they will do desperate things to keep the situation that they feel now privileged to have or lucky to have. And you get people, you ever see that Twilight Zone where the guy has the bunker? And he tells the neighbors, I'm keep telling you, build a nuclear bunker. You're going to need it. They're all making fun of him.

And then the thing comes over the radio as they're talking at dinner. There are nuclear missiles on the way, whatever. And he goes to his bunker and they're all at his door, like let us in. He goes, I told you guys you should have made a bunker. There's only enough room in here for me and my family. And they kick his door in, and they turn on each other, and they start getting racial with each other, right? And then at the end, it was a false alarm.

Oh God, and now everybody's revealed. Everybody's sitting there, yeah, and they're like, well, sorry about that. He's like, no, there's no turning back from this, you know? But that's what it is, It's people get so desperate its survival and as long as they feel that fear that threat that my Weekly paycheck might be cut off for me and that starts the chain of dominoes to my children starving and whatever it is People do some really foul fucking shit man. Oh yeah. You know, some really foul fucking shit. I feel very lucky that we're in several different ways.

You know, we're all operating sort of at different levels of this crazy industry we're in. But all of us in this circle that we now all exist in in comedy, it's like we all get to be independently employed, independently sufficient. And I think that allows you to potentially live a better life, you know?

It's just a better way of life for sure, well at least for us. But the thing is some people, they genuinely like coding, you know what I mean? So it's like unless you can get a job off site, where they let you, they don't even let you do that anymore. Now they're making people go back to work, which is so interesting. Because there was a few people that fucked it up for everybody else probably.

It was like a bunch of lazy people who fucked off and didn't really do their work and kind of like half-assed everything because they were at home in their fucking pajamas and they didn't want to go back to work. Yeah. Yeah. There are guys out there that are like, I love being a janitor, what do you want me to do? I gotta go work somewhere. It's just people saying they don't wanna go back to the office, that to me is a wild one. Like yo, everyone always had to work in an office, there was a reason. You go there, that's the work. When you're at home, you could be staring at your phone, you could

be jerking off. How many reporters got caught jerking off? Like to Zoom calls? What? You can't just leave people alone. They'll pretend they're doing as good a job. They're not. They gotta go to the office. That's why all the people that are like super ambitious, like psycho, Elon Musk type characters,

you gotta go to the fucking office. You know, dude, yeah, and it's, I have mixed feelings about the office thing because I I worked in offices at one point I Understand somebody saying did it was soul-deadening the overhead lights. Oh, yeah, the great cubicles right up, right? Oh, I get it so I get like I don't want to be in that environment sucks But now you see offices I talked about this in my act a little bit. It's like now they make them fun There's like ping pong tables and shit like that. I don't like that either. I think that creates the wrong vibe it was severance It should be just so deadening enough that you feel like I must work yes, but maybe not I want to hang myself

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I worked for, your expression is so funny. I'm just waiting for you to finish this. This is interesting. I didn't want to give it away. No, I worked for the Texas Senate. I worked for the Senate Media Department during the 76th legislative session or the 77th. No shit, what'd you do with them?

So I went to college for production, video and audio production. And I got out of school. And at the time, I graduated in 2000. So it was right after that whole Tarantino Robert Rodriguez indie film boom happened. And I said, that's what I want to do I want to work an independent film I'm gonna I want to do that I want to write

scripts I want to direct movies I want to create like in that space so I said well I keep hearing about this Austin Texas Robert Rodriguez is from there who's the guy slacker the guy that slacker and dazed and confused and Yeah, Richard link letter he was from here and I'm like well those guys are doing stuff down there and you know I had no fucking concept. Tell any of it worked. So I moved down here. I Met a few people that had the same interest. I was like, yeah, this is what I want to do immediately They were like, yeah getting fucking's just what I want to do. Immediately they were like, yeah, get in fucking line buddy. Good luck. So I got a job. I for a little while was working at like the PBS or whatever the government

TV station over here, whatever the hell it was. Mike Judge is out here too. Don't forget that. Oh yeah, Mike Judge, yes. Yeah. And I was working there and you're, you know, it was brutal. You're holding the camera for four hours in a studio as two people talk about you know Fucking I don't know new county lines and shit. Your neck is burning. It was miserable So So I saw in the paper an ad back when you opened a newspaper to find a job and it said help wanted Texas Senate Media Department. we need rate a radio reporter Shit man, I'm already a performer because I play I was playing music and stuff and I already had an interest in comedy

And I was like, but it's radio so I know how to do production whatever so I applied and I got the job and the job was the Senate. The Senate has its own media department and I was one of the people they sent to the Senate floor every single day for the legislative hearings and I had to take notes and do a radio show at the end of every day that surmised whatever happened that day and then you'd upload it to a server and then all these local radio stations in Texas would download it and play it as their news break and That's what I did every day. Oh my god, and I sucked at it

How long did you do it for for the whole session which was like six or eight months or something like that. Oh my god. What are those people like? Joe? They party a lot, huh? Like motherfuckers. Isn't that crazy? I've been hammered with these Texas senators.

It's not just Texas. It's kind of all of them. But I don't mean drunk. I mean like hammered. These guys would have catfish fries and keg parties Somebody left cocaine in the White House. Remember? Remember? Yeah, somebody left fucking coke. They brought coke to the White House

How did you do that? How'd you get in with coke? Dude? I knew nothing. Have you seen a hundred? I'm sorry. Have you seen Hunter Biden describing? Why crack is so good? It's the greatest crack advertisement of all time. No. If crack wasn't terrible for you, this guy makes me want to try crack. I'm not going to. Don't do it. I'm not giving any advice, but I'm saying this guy like legitimately this might be the best advertisement for crack of all time. I'm going to send it to you, Jamie. You're gonna watch it and you're gonna go,

oh my god. I'm excited for this. I wanna try crack. He's the gift that keeps on giving. Well, he's a lot smaller than people give him credit for. I'll tell you that. Like, he's talking, and one of the things he was talking about was why smoking things are so addictive,

why smoking cigarettes are so addictive, and like the psychology behind it. He's not dumb, but he's just a guy who became an addict and that fucks your whole life up. It fucks you, you become a subhuman. When you're junkied out all the time and you're that dude who's like what he was doing like making films and shit and driving with a gun,

ah, he was fucking gone, He was out there, dude. Well, when you're an addict with money, it gets real wild. And your dad is one of the most famous people on the planet. It's so crazy. Listen to this. There's only difference between crack cocaine and cocaine is sodium bicarbonate and water and heat, literally.

That's it? That's it. And those things are pretty much free if you go to like a science store. This is free. You can go to a your neighborhood convenience store and just get anyway I don't want to tell people how to make how to make crack cocaine but it literally is a managed jar of cocaine and baking soda. How different is the experience? It's vastly vastly different and like for real I Oh, it's vastly, vastly different. And, like, for real, I feel really reluctant to kind of have some euphoric discussion.

I know you're not asking me to do that, but have some euphoric discussion about crack cocaine. I think this might be kind of the opposite here. Okay, no, it's the exact opposite. I'm saying I don't want to have the experience of some euphoric recall. That's how powerful crack cocaine is. Does crack cocaine make you act any differently? No. Is it safer than alcohol?

Probably. People think of crack as being dirty. It's the exact opposite. When you make crack, what you're doing is you're burning off all the impurities so that it can bind with the sodium bicarbonate, which makes it smokable. That's all. You know, all of these actors and, you know,

people in the past that talked about they had a problem with cocaine and free-basing. They were smoking crack. So straw on the stove is the same thing? Not exactly, but close to it. But it's a little bit different. But anyway, my point about it, your point about it, which I think is true, is that there's a thing about crack

that is really insidious. And what it is, is that any time, you know, I think one of the reasons that they believe that smoking cigarettes is so addictive is because it combines three really important things. It's habit forming, there's an oral fixation, and there is a ritual combined with it. And so the idea of hand to mouth is a habit and a fixation

that we learned very early, even as children. With a pacifier, with a spoon, with your thumb, to even to breastfeed, okay? So that really, so I, and I don't wanna get into the psychology of it because I'm no expert, but I do know this, is that you combine with that ignition, combustion, and then you combine the ritual.

You have your cigarette in the morning, you have your cigarette when you get out of the car, you have your cigarette with your coffee. Crack is that on steroids. It's over and over. There's ritual to it, there's a ritualized part of it. The combination of all of those addictive behaviors together becomes like really powerful.

And the drug in and of itself is a more immediate, euphoric sensation connected to it than in my experience, cocaine alone. Does it require more frequency to maintain the high? Yes, yes. And the capacity to use more than you could otherwise with powder cocaine just physically to be able to ingest it Okay, so you can't we should give that guy credit who's who's the dude who's interviewing him? Andrew Callahan channel five. Well, he nailed it. He did a great job. Um, that's the best ad for coke ever

It's the best best ad for crack ever. Yeah, um, and he could be president. Yeah, how about that? How about that? That kid? He could like I'm no bullshit hunter Biden after all I've been through look we all his dirty laundry is all out there We all see it. He he was a freak he Speaking of which it's a smart Smarter than his dad when his dad was young and he was a crackhead. He spoke so eloquently about crack just there I mean I was by the way, you know what two words got me? What?

Ignition was the first one. Yeah, Jesus, bro. And I forget the second word, but ignition, I was like, you got my ears here. But I have a friend that smoked crack. Oh my God, I have a couple. Yeah, and I said, what was it like? Like, how, describe it to me.

And he goes, dude, he goes, the best way I could describe it is, imagine you are as horny as humanly possible, you have a raging heart on, and a woman sits down on your dick for two seconds and then plops off and walks away. He goes, that sensation of the thrill of that, he goes, that's the only way I could think to kind of equate like what the charge of it is and how excited you are and how you feel you need to immediately do it again. And when you do it again, do you have the same reaction or is it dumbed down? That I don't remember what he said, but I got the impression that it's kind of like,

you know, it's that just on repeat. It's the broken record of up and down and then big crashes Yeah, I had a buddy in New York that smoked crack and he would have these giant crashes one of the things that he would have to do is he would have to go to a Store like a liquor store and get a 40 ounce of malt liquor. Okay, that was how he'd calm himself down from the crack. So like a lot of times I would pick him up. I would even drop him off when he was buying his shit back then. And then when I'd get him, he'd just be like pale like cardboard and had to drink malt liquor.

It was like he's about to have a fucking heart attack. But by the way, that's all it takes is 140 ounce I'm thinking you'd need the fucking main line of bottle of Jack Daniels to even out get a couple of 40s Okay, but 140 is really strong. Those are those are things are crazy strong like malt liquor Okay It's kind of crazy that malt liquor is only in the hood yeah kind of crazy yeah cuz there's a lot of beer that tastes like shit you know it's not like malt liquor is like a fine Sam Sam Adams ale yeah you know malt liquor's got a it's it's just there to get you

fucked up and if it's cold it's tolerable yeah why is it way more popular in the hood yeah it's well it's usually very 40s are usually very cheap It is malt liquor, but it's cheap. We used to buy 40s when I was in college That's all we drank because it was cheap, right? We should drink a 40 called camo The the label was camouflage the cheapest looking camouflage design ever and it said camo in like the army stamp It was a dollar fifty of forty and it said camo in like the army stamp it was a dollar fifty of forty and it was eight point nine percent alcohol so college it's perfect and so there is baby I remember old English I remember old English and I

remember god there was a bunch of them there was a bunch of those like giant malt liquors that everybody what were the big name ones? They were always in rap songs. Oh dude, OE. Yeah, Old English is a big one. 8 Ball was... Colt 45. Colt 45, that's right. Yeah, King Cobra. Yeah, Harry Kane. Old English 800 is that was the classic the Old English 800. St. Ides. Yeah, Old English 800 was 8 Ball. That was the easy the old English 800 saying I'd yeah old English 800 was eight ball That was the easy song eight ball right you drink that stuff you will get fucked up. Yeah, like that's a weird gray area between liquor and Beer, you know, I mean, it's like

It tastes like it tastes like you took bad beer and poured vodka in it But yet totally legal yeah, which I agree with It tastes like you took bad beer and poured vodka in it. Wow. It's so nasty. But yet totally legal. Yeah. Which I agree with, I agree with, totally legal. And I mean, but what you were saying though, about you'll find it in the hood or whatever, it applies same thing to college kids. Dude, when you don't have a ton of cash

and you wanna get fucked up, and for under $5 you can get two 40s. Oh yeah, and you're blitzed. You got yourself a night. Yeah, you got yourself a hell of a night. Hell of a night. But wait, I said earlier the sober thing. Bud weight.

What's that? I said bud weight. Bud weight, bud weight. I just saw the clip, I remember you telling me in the green room that you stopped drinking and then I just saw the clip of you saying it to Ron white that you you think you're done I mean, I will I would most certainly Have a glass of wine at some point in time my life

But as far as like regular drinking drinking every week, I'm definitely done. I You feel better. It's crazy. I mean it seems so it's such a simple thing to Chris Williams did it first He was like the first guy that I know that's like a podcaster that just said it's been his biggest like life hack His change I was like really that big of a deal and he's like that big of a deal He's like it really it's like a remarkable Change and the energy levels that you have because you're not fucking poisoning yourself all the time. Yeah, I love it It's so fun.

It's the most fun. It's the most fun. It's so fun. It's so fun to get a little tipsy. That's what Ari, I remember speaking to Ari, Ari said that to me once, because I remember when Ari got into like enjoying drinking, and I got a lot, because he didn't throw a lot.

He didn't drink for a long time. Yeah, and I go, you like it now? And he goes, it's the most fun thing. And I was like, yeah, it's pretty fucking fun, man But I saw a kid in the coffee shop today. I Was waiting in line to to order and the kid in front of me turned around. He's like, hey, man. I Love your comedy whenever he was nice kid. He goes he goes dude Are you sober too now? Oh, you guys are getting sober. I was like no

Are you sober too now? Oh, you guys are getting sober. I was like, no, no, no. Oh, you guys. That's funny. They think we move as a group. Yeah, yeah. They're all Republicans now. There's the things I hear people apply to this comedy scene.

I'm just like, what the fuck are you guys? It's so dumb. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I read another article the other day about us being in anti-woke comedy scene. You had the thing about UCB coming in? Like, why not just do great stuff?

Go do great stuff. Don't worry about what we're doing. And we're not anti-woke. There's no anti-woke. There's like a shit ton of left wing comics at the mothership. It's like, that's not what we're talking about Yeah, it's we're not dwelling on that. We're making fun of things it

That article upset me because when I saw the headline I was excited because I used to do UCB shows in New York. I did him in LA Yeah, I did him in LA too, and I was like oh cool UCB's coming like it'll be's fun for the scene and stuff the scenes It's always better if there's more in the scene But that's also you got to realize like someone framing it in a way that's gonna get people to read it Yeah And then there's people that genuinely do think that way and it's what a lot of that is

I think is the walled garden issue and the fact that there's like a walled garden, right? When there's a walled garden is a bunch of people are doing really well together and they're hanging out together and they have fun. And you're not in that group. You start getting mad at that and you find reasons why that's bad because you want something like that in your life, which we all do. If I see like a whole group of friends

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You'll get angry. Do you remember, like, I don't know if you ever experienced this, but I'm assuming you have. It's kind of like when you're coming up the ladder initially in show business and you see famous people on TV and whatever and you got an opinion about everybody that's having too much fun, that's annoying, that guy's music sucks and this and that. He's a hack.

Yeah. And then five years later you find yourself in a room with the guy at some party and you meet him and talk to him and you go, what? He's the nicest guy. What the fuck? I think I like his music now. It just changes. I know.

It's so stupid. But it's just a normal thing that people do. We talk shit. And then the problem now is you talk shit and you're just talking shit. Like you and I would be talking the same way if we were in Mitzi's bar just hanging out. We'd be talking shit. Exactly. If we were in Mitsy's bar just hanging out and be talking shit exactly and If someone records that or writes it down it seems so much different than this just regular talking shit Which is what everybody does well

And that's that's one of the things I wrote down here that I wanted to say and I don't say it I swear to you I don't say it to blow smoke because it's your place and I get to work there a lot and all that stuff That's all beautiful I say this very genuinely man when I swung in last night and everybody's at the you know hanging after kill Tony and it's usually a fun time and And Carrie was like she's like hey, babe. You want a shot and I go no no not tonight I got it. I got to take it easy tonight And I go, I'm doing Joe's show tomorrow.

And dude, like the staff, everybody, the friends, the comp, everybody being like, dude, congrats, fucking special drop today, you're doing Rogan tomorrow, dude, kill it, have fun, dude, we fucking love you. And I stepped back and I was like, this feels like family to me. This is a beautiful thing everybody's so supportive There's no backbiting. There's no shit talking. It's all fucking love

So when I hear people say negative shit about the Austin scene, I'm like It's it's I've found it to be a beautiful experience like truly like a truly heartwarming experience It's it's people that aren't in the scene. That's all it is It's like people that they're looking at it from the outside then it's not just us that are like this like my thought on all this shit is that my favorite people to hang out with are comedians and if you make an environment where comedians are really happy and everyone is has a lot of gratitude a lot of gratitude for what they're able to do with their life and that they have such great friends

and they get to do sets and have fun and it transfers over to all the other people too. It transfers over to the up and comers. It transfers over to the staff. Everybody is having a good time. Everybody has a real positive attitude. That's possible to do. You don't have to start a cult.

You don't have to, you just, you know, just make a place. You can do it, it can be done. We did it at the Comedy Store, the Comedy Store was pretty fucking positive for the most part before we left. And we do it here too, and some people don't wanna hang with comics, they're lone wolves, and that's fine too, man. That's not what it's about. What it's about is making an environment where it's easiest possible for someone to thrive.

So you got a bunch of feedback from a bunch of other comedians. You got a lot of up-and-coming talent that are, like, really killing it on stage and really trying to be heard and really writing new stuff all the time, performing all the time. It's good for everybody. It's like a big old pressure cooker. and really trying to be heard and really writing new stuff all the time, performing all the

time, it's good for everybody. Yeah. It's like a big old pressure cooker. It's like a wrestling room at Iowa State. Yeah. You know, it's like, oh, Jesus Christ, like there's a bunch of killers in this fucking room. That's good for everybody.

Yeah. It's good for all of us. I look at it the same way I look at sports. I look at it the way I look at martial arts. Like, what's the best way to get better? You gotta surround yourself with really good people. Also, make a gym that has everything the fighters need. Everything they need, like the UFC Performance Center,

something like that, or Performance Institute, something like that. Have a place where it has everything the fighters need. So do that for comedy. Do stuff that's completely set up, financially the most beneficial for the comedians. It's like treats people well. Everybody gets, it's the whole business is designed to break even.

Yeah. It's all designed to do. It was awesome, particularly this past weekend, because I did Ari shows with him in Fat Man in the big room. And then I was also doing little boy spots in between. And it was so, like you're talking about the gym, right? It's like, it was so fucking cool. It's like you go into Fat Man,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know what I mean? Then you go into little boy, it's a little calmer, a little more quiet. It's like you're in people's living room. Yeah, you sit down in the stool, you talk a little slower. I'm like, this is so good for growth in both areas like just like a gym like you set up a gym It's a crossfit gym. Yeah, you know it's like over there. You do your weights over here you cardio. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's great man It's fucking great

And the staff is just the staff is so awesome like just the love of the staff is really a beautiful thing They're very cool people and a lot of them like Carrie and Adam and Jodie They all came from the store. So everybody was unemployed man. Yeah, I scooped him up when they were all unemployed. Yeah Let's have fun. Let's put something crazy together. He get is the funniest. He's the best. He makes me laugh so hard. He He watched me the other night In in little boy and I came off stage and he's like he's a good good shit man good that's new shit and I go I'm super excited about this Russell Brand joke and he goes yeah yeah so then the next day he starts texting me and he goes I couldn't sleep last night and I go why and he goes I'm just so excited

about your new Russell Brand joke I'm just so excited about your new Russell Brand joke Really is how he thinks though because I can't sleep but I go wait you're joking right and he goes yes I'm joking you fucking idiot. It was so funny, dude. We were laughing so hard. He's the best man Well, he learned it from norm, you know, yeah, I mean, yeah, but he really does love it Like he really does love when people have new shit Like he really was joking around. I'm sure but he was also looks forward to it a lot He loves like the development process and you know It gives really good advice like I've seen him give like really good advice to up-and-coming comics about like maybe this is what you need

To concentrate on this is where you have like other kind of a hole in your your game like how you're setting it up Maybe you have too many words. Maybe you're this maybe you're that maybe you're looking down at the ground You need to look in the audience a little bit. Yeah, you know, I learned Excuse me. I look, you know, you're always learning right, but I just rewatched the Gary Shandling doc the HBO one And he talks at the beginning of that. He talks about when Mitzi sure said to him honey, you're not a comic You're not a comic you're a writer And then he was so determined to be a comic and he was like and you're seeing his notes from his journals from that time Yeah

And he's like use your face your expressions matter at these moments and your energy and the way you look and what I was like Oh my god It's just and then you watch his stand up, you go, I can see what he's talking about. You see him go like from this to like... Right, he worked at it. And you're like, yeah, it's fucking fascinating. You're not a comic, you're a writer.

I can see her saying that. Bro, if she said to me I quit, I'd be like, fuck. This is over. The, uh, uh, who was the guy that used to run the comic strip in in New York Lewis? Not Lewis The guy that passed away He had the mustache do you remember I'm talking about you mean the guy got murdered no no no no no that's at the stand The yes, that's Dave the comic rest in no no that's at the stand. Yes that's Dave Kimmelwitz rest

in peace. Who passed away at the comic strip? There was that guy that was kind of legendary in New York that ran the comic strip he was the Booker and when you auditioned you had to audition for him and then he would take you into a room and tell you Lucian. Oh Lucian yes that's right. I remember I auditioned for him desperately trying to get in anywhere in New York. Oh Losing was brutal. He brought me in the room. He sat me down. He goes What can I say I mean some of the jokes work, but I don't believe you and Then he goes look at the way you dress. You clearly have no pride in your appearance. I was like Jesus Christ Who's brutal? I don't remember what he said to me, but it was also not favorable

He would like occasionally give me spots, but I think he thought it was too dirty. Oh, but I was 21 I didn't have anything to say I had nothing to say how long were you in New York? You were out of New York way before I came to New York, but how long were you left New York you were out of New York way before I came to New York But how long were you left New York when I was 25? Okay, almost 26. I guess no I had to be 26. No I was 26 And then I came to California Initially for this Fox show that I did with Jim Brewer Jim Brewer was the

He was the mascot for the other team and it was a baseball team called it was called hardball the sitcom yeah terrible show terrible show so I moved out here for that and then that got canceled you know what's funny dude I was saying this to all the boys out in the outside area here I got to tell Joe this because I keep forgetting to tell him because I because I always forget Oh, he was on that show. I you know news radio during kovat saved my fucking life. I Swear, did you binge it? I was so I was living in an apartment that only had windows in the bedroom

So I had no light in my apartment. Oh, no, it was a tenement building the hallway I was telling the bedroom, so I had no light in my apartment. It was a tenement building. The hallway, I was telling the guys outside, I was like the hallway. You were trapped in a place with no light at all? Yeah. The hallway in this building was, the hallway looked like the alley behind the Wuhan lab. I was like, I was like,

I'm gonna get COVID from the fucking railing. I was like, it was so gross. Everybody was so freaked out. Nobody knew what was going on like in the beginning and and I was like dude. I'm trapped. I'm alone like this is the worst thing ever and my buddy Pat Walsh Who I do my we'll see you in hell podcast with he said listen man Have you seen news radio and I said no I've never seen it I missed it when it was on and he goes look amazon's got the whole series right now

For 20 bucks just buy it and watch it and i bought it and i watched it and you fucking dave foley the best Phil hartman i was just like root and steve oh my god vicki lewis it just candy alexander more a tyranny Yeah it was a great cast it just took me cuz attorney. Yeah, it was a great cast It just took me because it was so fun. It was so silly It was classic it reminded me of a better time because it was a little bit older because from the 90s Yeah, almost almost innocent. Oh my god style of comedy. Yeah, so silly It's like it's it's a fun thing to do and to be able to do it that way like with those people

They're all so fucking good. You know and I didn't know I had fucking zero acting experience I did a couple of episodes that hardball show. It was terrible. Like I said, I wasn't good on it either I'm not a good actor. No, you're not no no no no no no no, I wasn't saying no, you're not a good actor I'm saying no, you're not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I wasn't saying no, you're not a good actor. I'm saying no, you're wrong. I want to compliment you sitcom, multicam acting. Multicam is very different from single cam. Multicam in my opinion is the hardest form of acting. No, dude, you're doing it in front of a crowd. It's like stand up. It's not that hard. You know, when, when you've got a good one, when you got a good punch line and you can look Andy dick in the face and said because it says it on the label

Like whatever it is and you know, it's gonna get a big laugh. It's just like doing stand-up like comics thrive in those multi-cam sitcoms That's why they kept giving them to like Roseanne Seinfeld Brett Butler. They wanted every Tim Allen Everybody that could do stand-up could do that kind of in front of an audience acting. See, I think you're not giving yourself enough credit. I think I agree with you the idea that if the joke's there, you can land it.

But think about it like this with stand-up, right? Woody Allen once said, I used to think it was as easy as just writing a good joke and if I used to think it was as easy as just writing a good joke and if I said it was fine he goes then I realized that wasn't the case I had to write good jokes that were of my personality and that's why I'm so enamored by guys that are good at multicam sitcom acting because they're writing something for a character you're playing and if it's knowing how to land the joke but also making making it believable. I'm in all of Kevin James

Oh, he's the man. I'm in all of him you watch King of Queens and I'm like Jesus Christ He delivered that line That nine out of ten other people it would be in no way Organic or believable that choice he just made and he does it in a way where you believe that's actually who this person is and It gets a laugh like yeah, that was one of the last fascinating great sitcoms Yeah, right because like what when did the sitcom? Officially die the only one who has a sitcom right now that I know is miss Pat and hers is on the BET app Yeah, but who else who else do you know that has a sitcom?

No, but in my my buddy Pat Pat I just mentioned works on that show actually. And I agree. Well Shane has a sitcom, but Shane Tires is not really a sitcom. It's a single-cam comedy show. Yeah, yeah. It's not a situation comedy, right? Is it? Well, it's a sitcom.

Is it a sitcom, technically? It is. Yes, but it's a single-cam. It's is the is the traditional whatever but I think it died. I was watching I Also watched this later during kovat Rules of engagement which was David Spade's last sitcom. It was him and Patrick Warburton I don't know if you remember that show Patrick Warburton was on a news radio bit, too He was episodes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah

Forget how many he did But that show came out and like I think it ended in like 2017 ish that was probably the last one. Yeah Wow, so you watch it and they're getting jokes in where you're like, you can tell two years later they wouldn't have allowed any of these jokes. You know what a show that I used to shit on until I watched it, it was a really good show and I feel bad that I used to shit on it? Big Bang Theory.

Yeah, Big Bang Theory's funny. It's funny, man. It's a good show. It's that kind of a thing. Like if that's what you want you want like a fun. Yeah sitcom That's a fun sitcom man, and I had always thought it was crap Yeah, I'd always heard it was crap everybody and I had made this judgment on it based on other people's opinions of it They and we were talking earlier about what people hate on something

Yeah, Big Bang Theory one of the most hated on sitcoms went forever went forever was the number one show in the world I worked with Johnny Galecki. He was the fucking Man the coolest dude ever once he he's the kid that was on Roseanne the guy with the glasses He was kind of like the main dude outside of Sheldon. Do you know I'm talking about right right right? Yes. Yes. Yes the man I got drunk with him and fell down the stairs Luckily you didn't need insurance. No. That would have been another story.

And then they fucked me over. Bro, speaking about getting fucked over, want to hear a story that I've read today? Jamie Finaf, this is true, but I'm pretty sure it is. There was a guy who decided that he was going to leave Texas because of the woke direction that America is going in. And so he decides to go to Russia because there's some guy, some American set up like an expat community in Russia. And this guy goes in there and then they can script him for the army and send him to the front line. Father who moved from family from Russia to escape woke America is sent to the front line. Jesus Christ bro

That's that's a crazy story that's insane with his family with his wife and his daughters He just moves there doesn't know anything about the culture and all of a sudden you're in the army. That's it Yeah, you know, it's your army. We sudden you're in the army. That's it. Yeah, you're in the army. We need you. And by the way, fed up with woke America, I would think Texas is a place where... Like, if you... Texas is too woke for you. You need to go spend a couple months in Silver Lake.

Do you think Texas is too woke? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Go hang out in the East Village for a couple weeks. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. I lived in Silver Lake. It is, it is... Insufferable. ...faciously woke in Silver Lake. It's insufferable. Everybody needs antidepressants. No one has any vitamin D.

They're all fucking, they're all rotting out from the inside. They're all overwhelmed with anxiety, trying to control everyone's speech and behavior, and like every fucking flag that you can possibly Wave for what you support. What are we on this week? What are we doing this week? Yeah, everyone's fucking nuts I think a city that was always one of my big gripes with with life in LA or more specifically Hollywood I Think a city where you have to drive to get to the bar, you got a problem because nobody's able to just go out the front door, go down the street,

and just have some fun. Everything is, it's gotta be planned, it's gotta be this, it's gotta be that. Hard to park. Yeah, so nobody cuts loose. Also, you're always in your car, so you're always isolated from other people until you integrate, and then you're back to my isolation.

In New York, you have to integrate. You just, you get on the subway, you walk down the street, everybody's there with everybody. There's something to be said for that. There is. I always, when I lived in LA, I said the reason I don't like LA, I always said the ultimate goal of people in LA is isolation.

The ultimate goal of people in New York is integration. In LA, the big dream is what? Let me get the- Mansion. Yeah, the house way up in these hills and these- Big old gate with dogs and fucking dudes on sniper posts. Yeah, yeah. Guys being like, I got an eye scanner on my house. Jesus. Terrets, machine guns.

Yeah, yeah. And the only people, and then they have these parties in LA where they hire a staff To create the environment of a bar in their home So now they've created there's like catering waiters walking around and shit, you know guys I'm just trying to play beer pong and like get fucked up with what is this right? So weird, but New York you could be top floor Trump Tower. Guess what you walk out the front door You're going to the same shit newsstand that I'm going to you're getting your coffee from the same fucking place That's another thing New York still has new stands. Yes people still buy the newspaper Isn't that one actual newspaper? I wonder what percentage of newspapers get sold in New York City

That's a great question because nobody's buying newspapers anymore No, like what percent is it possible to find out when New York Times give that information out like what? percentage of the New York Times when it's consumed in paper form is purchased in New York City, it's it's It's probably the most out of anywhere, right because there's so many old-school New Yorkers They're like this is how you read the news. That's part of their life. Oh, yeah getting the Times every morning Those people are a problem They don't know they're getting fucked they don't know the internet they haven't made their way through reddit yet

The Billy Connolly seen the Fauci memes Billy Connolly had this joke After he got sober where he was talking about living in New York And he goes every morning my routine is I walk to the newsstand, I buy a cup of coffee and the morning edition of the New York Times, my life is a ball of fire. And then the funniest part of the joke is he said there was the same homeless guy every day that he would give money to, and he said one day the homeless guy goes, you know you don't have to give give me money every day and he goes I know you I don't you little fucking cunt

It's better with a Scottish accent, right it is yeah it is Yes, there's something to be said for living jammed up with people. But I think ultimately the problem is it's just over stimulation I don't think it's just over stimulation. I don't think it's good for peace of mind. I think it's good for energy. It's one of the things that my friends that love it there, they all talk about like my friend Jeff, who's been there forever. He's like, I love the energy of the city. I'm like, really? Energy. New York's one of those places, man, when I god, I loved it I still have a lot of love for the city. It wasn't for me to live in anymore But I always said like New York is one of those cities whenever you get there

What doesn't matter what year it is when you get there that begins your impression of the best version of New York and Eventually might take five years might take eventually, might take five years, might take two decades, might take 30 years, whatever. Eventually you're gonna say, this isn't what it used to be anymore. But there's a crop of people coming in right at that time that are saying this is the best place ever. 30 years from now, they're gonna say

they're tired of it or whatever. Listen buddy, 30 years from now, we're all gonna be serving robots. Okay, so all this good old day stuff, we are the last people that are gonna talk about the good old days. Yeah. This is it. We're the last ones. Yeah. And I agree with you, we'll be serving robots.

Yeah. Not robots are gonna be, yeah. I remember people used to talk about the good old days of Times Square. And I was always like, you're crazy. Like you want Times Square to be filled with criminals and peep shows and fucking drug dealers and it was Super sketchy right super sketchy and then I saw it the way it is now where it's a giant Applebee's and I was like Oh, they were right You know, it's like it's one of those things like you see where it's going

You see where it's going you like you guys don't going, you're like, you guys don't understand. This is going, this is going in a terrible direction. You just, it is just the first steps of something going in a terrible direction. Like at first you think it's good because there's no more peep shows, there's no more, you know, street hustlers and scary people trying to rob people.

But now you have the corporatization of one of the, literally the wildest places in New York City was Times Square. It was a wild ass crazy place. Yeah. What you want, what you want to me, the analogy is you want the perfect dive bar. That's what, that's what we all want. Feels comfortable, little gritty, but I feel okay.

Once in a while you'll go, let's find a dive bar and you walk in and there's too many boxes in the corner and Nothing works and you're like something's not right here There was a one we used to go to in LA There was a motel upstairs and the bar downstairs only served two things Modelo and Corona and we were like There is some sort of pimping operation or something happening in here. It's too much There's a lot of places like that that you know we're losing money You're like oh, this is a Chinese triads on this like who owns this fucking business like how is this business still open? Yeah, yeah, but you want you want perfect dive bar in vibes

What yeah, you know when it's to New York Times Square now is like It's like going to a bar in Epcot Center. And you're like, oh god, this has no pulse. I didn't want it this clean. Not this clean. When I was a kid, I used to play pool in New York at Chelsea Billiards. It's a 24-hour pool hall that was known throughout the world as a place where like the best pool players in New York City would go and gamble. So I'd go there two, three o'clock in the morning, any given given night and you would find some of the best players in the world

Matching up playing pool for money Wow. Oh, it was amazing and it was just 24-7. It was open all the time So there's be like guys who are street hustlers who are pool hustlers who would sleep under the tables There was a bunch of people there that were like really talented pool players But they were basically homeless and they would just run around and my friend that I was telling you about that smoke crack That's why I knew him. He was he was basically a homeless crackhead who was a genius pool player Yeah, did you ever get to play against any of the like big guys? Yeah, I got my ass kicked I played it a bunch of turn I wasn't nearly good enough back then to play against those guys I was just learning pool, but I was fascinated by it, but it was just the place

The kind of thing that you'd have in New York City. There's all these different places we could go. We could go to like 10, 15 places that were pool halls in New York City. There were 24 hours and you would go there and this one was a complete Chinese-owned place. You would go there and like some of them you would go to, not Chelsea, but some of them you would go to. They were off the beaten path. You You'd go there everyone spoke Chinese. They had Chinese on the wall They did speak a little bit of English you could pay them for table time You go and play and you watch these dudes gambling there, too It's it's one of one of my that that version of New York. I think is probably I would think extinct

It's not it's not worth enough money, right? The thing is like if you could put some Louis Vuitton store in the place where that used to be, that's gonna make a lot more money. The CD 24-hour pool hall that charges $20 an hour for table time, that's ridiculous. You're getting rich. How are you getting rich off $20 an hour table time?

The Louis Vuitton store also doesn't have crack heads sleeping under their purses. But it was so fun, man. It was like, to be a young man and to be around all those people was like a very, it was a very interesting experience, because although I knew it wasn't healthy for them and I knew it wasn't a smart way to live your life, the fact that they were like dedicated to never doing

anything but what they were doing, and they were smart people, man. Yeah, that's,'s it's fucking weird Commitment is admirable, but that turns into a zone. It gets into the zone. We're like this is this is dark It was totally dark. Yeah, but they just didn't fit. They didn't fit Okay, just like you barely fit in that Senate office. Mm-hmm. They didn't fit at all They just couldn't do it for they have a ADHD, stepmom beat him with a belt, whatever the fuck it was.

They're not gonna fit. They're not gonna fit in whatever corporate cookie cutter life. They had a place in pool halls where they could hang out with other misfits. That was like a big part of the charm of the place. There's a magnet for misfits. Yeah, and now they're all door- delivery guys probably they're probably dead

Yeah A lot of them are dead a lot of dudes that I used to play with are dead One of the things that I cherish most about my New York experience was when I first got there It's how I became friends with the tell Dave liked to go out back then you know and anomnia, or Insomniac was on the air, that show he hosted where he would, you know, go out into the cities. And get obliterated. Yeah.

So Dave, I liked to drink and Dave was like, Joe man, you're a nice kid, come out with me. And he would take me to these after hours, he knew every fucking after hours place. Of course. We had a fucking blast and a tell was classic He was like Batman. You'd be doing shots with him for three hours, and you'd turn around and he was gone Do you want to say goodbye yeah fuck this I'm just leaving yeah, and you're literally like I'm on Avenue D I think where the fuck and we didn't have GPS back then either no GPS no uber

No uber no uber and broke comic couldn't afford cabs so trying to figure out how to subway back to Queens where I live Oh my god. Yeah at three in the morning. Oh my god three sometimes five six. Oh my god Just yeah, that's the other thing bars in New York City open till 4 a.m. Yeah, that's getting lesser and lesser to them Is it oh yeah? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. When we opened... But it's legal still. When we opened Joey... Is it legal still? Yes, it is, but there's when we opened Joey Rose's we got a liquor license because there's a bar component and we, you know, when we went in for the liquor I learned so much about a liquor license when we did that. You probably did too when you open

Mothership there's there's like all these rules like okay You're allowed to serve till midnight on these nights, but not till 2 and we'll let you go to 2 on these nights But not till 4 And if you want to go till 4 it has to be in this type of location where this type of activity will never happen meaning like a DJ that can offend neighbors because of the bass or it's got to be situated in a way where people will not be congregating outside because the venue is large enough to hold them. There's all this shit but like that 4 a.m. shit is going away.

I don't think they want it in New York anymore because of you know people get fucked up and they're puking outside and then the residents are getting pissed off What do you think is gonna happen if this uh, how do you say his name? Mondani guy, I don't know how to say his name, but I Mom Donnie So say it again so Ron almost like the movie I think I Say the whole name mom Donnie. I'm gonna use that as my ringtone from now on. Mom Donnie. You saying that? Mom Donnie. I

admittedly know very little about this guy. All I really know is half the people seem excited and half the people seem like it's the worst thing ever. So par for the course I guess in politics Well, young people are very excited. Young people think we're going to give communism a try. Yay, let's see what happens. I know he wants to jack up a lot of taxes for businesses. I don't understand business enough to comment on that. I don't know whether that would be beneficial overall

for the good of everybody or not. But I'm always skeptical when they want more money. Does he want to jack up taxes on all businesses or just certain level businesses? I don't know. I think he wants to change the tax code in New York to be the same for businesses as it is for New Jersey, which is a little higher. Believe it or not, New Jersey is a little higher than New York. That city is making it, in my opinion,

absolutely impossible for mom and pop businesses to continue to function. And it's starting to happen more and more everywhere. That's a shame, because that's one of the coolest things about New York City, is that you can go at these little mom and pop shops. We went to a sandwich shop, I wish I could remember the name of it,

near where Taylor Swift's house is. Taylor Swift used to own a house there. This is how we know that right? There's a bunch of gals We parked over in the corner we parked on the street to eat our sandwiches I'm like what the fuck is going on at that house And there's all these girls with paws in front of the house and they would get pictures taken They would you know to have like their perfect angle and look cute in front of Taylor Swift's house. So these fucking poor people that used to, you know, they bought this house thinking this is a dope house. They might not have even known or they thought it would

be cool. It used to be Taylor Swift's, but everyone's going to know it's not anymore, so no big deal. No, they take pictures of your house every day. That's so funny. The juxtaposition of of those images a bunch of hot chicks posing perfectly and then a bunch of dudes in a hot car eating hoagies From like the most classic old-school Italian deli that we found in in wherever that area is what do you know you do remember the part of town at all? I don't I could find it if I wanted to go through my phone I could find it cuz I sent it to my friend Tommy when we were going down there

But I feel like I have to know the place you're talking about if it's probably a place I've been I feel like I've been to every sandwich place in New York City anyway. Yeah, it was good. Yeah sure It was really good. I'm sure and it's a mom-and-pop spot that's been there since like 1960 or some shit. Yep. You know, been there forever. I mean look at Katz's now dude. Now part of this is... Katz's the best.

Part of this is tourism. Their sandwiches are 29 fucking dollars now. Shut up and just pay them. They've been around since the 1800s. Stop being a bitch. It's worth it. It's worth 50 bucks. Those are the greatest fucking sandwiches on the known planet.

When you go there at 2 o'clock in the morning and you get a fucking pastrami Ruben from Katz's deli at 2 o'clock in the morning with the steak fries. Oh my god Nice lifesaver late. Oh my god. I was a big Carnegie deli guy. He's great. They're gone. Yeah, they went under they're gone No, Jerry's famous deli in LA was amazing. I think they're all gone. I think they closed a bunch of them. They closed the one near where I used to live in Woodland Hills. And then they closed the one in Studio City, I believe, which was the big one. Wait, is Jerry's...

What's the one that just got shut down for Health Code stuff? The one that had the Godmother, the Italian sandwich that everybody loved and everybody goes down near the beach, I think. I don't know that story I think you're in the restaurant business son You know restaurant rumors and gossip and you know the one they the code violation Google news feed are you on? You know restaurants per Taylor Swift.

That's your barometer. You're like, it's this close to Taylor Swift's house. That's all I know. I just imagine being those poor people. What is it? Bay Cities. BC deli. Something just happened where they shut down for a while.

That's in LA? Yeah. And they got in trouble for something? I don't know if they got in trouble. I want to make sure I'm not speaking at a school of school here. Yeah health department. Yeah shut down for what I Think they were pretty fit. Oh, it says the word vermin. That's never good. Oh, that's not good They got hit with rats. God. See everybody hates the coyotes in LA Yeah, but if you don't have coyotes you have rats. Yeah a lot more rats than you do have

Yeah, you need them to keep the... You guys fucked up. Temporary closure. We're going to reopen. Okay. They're going to kill all the rats. I hope they fix it. I'll tell you, that's a thing I never expected in New York. Rats? It's like you open a food place in New York.

You open anything in New York. Rats is on your checklist. Yeah. Of what you have to be ready to deal with. I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. And the city just acts like, well. That's the city. That's your problem. They're rats.

Why don't you fix the rats thing a little bit? They cannot. No. They cannot. Those rats got bold during, they evolved during COVID, dude. Yeah. They walk right up to you now in New York.

They didn't used to do that. Rats used to scurry if they saw anybody. They walk up to you now. Like, it's wild. They evolved. I heard a thing- They probably had to get more aggressive to survive because all the food got cut off because there was no restaurants open. Well, also too, the places that were shut down, so many shut their doors but left their stock and abandoned ship. So the rats got in there and it was fucking, you know, it

was Charlotte's Web, the fucking, the rat at the picnic, whatever that fucking temple to. They just had a field day. But somebody told me, a construction guy told me once, he goes, dude, rats are some of the smartest fucking creatures on earth. He goes, scaffolding, when they're scaffolding on a building, when they're doing work on a building, it opens everything up and rats tend to come. He said, sometimes what they'll do is they'll hang dead rats from the scaffolding and other rats will see the dead rats and go don't fuck with that place isn't that fucking crazy

that's crazy isn't that crazy if they see a dead rat they run no I would done no research to see if it's true if I go into a neighborhood on horseback I see a dude fucking hanging by the front door I'm like oh this is not a good spot to stop let's keep moving we had to put in in the basement when we were sealing off some potential entry points because you really got to seal your basement off that's a key thing in New York. Ken is it possible to seal it off from Rance? How about this dude ready for this? Yeah, we had to seal off some potential entry points that the previous tenant had left the the exterminator guy we brought in he goes Here's how you have to do this you have to mix glass with the concrete So if a rat does try to chew through it it will get hurt from the glass and it will not try to do it

Again, if you just have concrete, they will eat through the fucking concrete. Just create a hole. It's insane. And they can get through like a nickel size hole. Oh, it's insane. Yeah, their bones are flexible. Yeah, yeah, it's insane.

They're fascinating creatures and also disgusting. Did you ever watch the Netflix series on them? The documentary, Rats? The thing the guy that died did supersize me Right. Is that his? Yeah It is his yeah. Yeah, he died, right? Yeah Um I don't I didn't know that that was his but it's really good. It's it's it's and it talks about all the different diseases they carry

and then um All over the country like there's rats everywhere and one of the things that they cover is the amount of rats that are in New York City, where it's like, it's all an assumption. They don't know, they didn't wait them. But they think the biomass of rats is equal to the biomass of people. I don't doubt it.

Do you know how crazy that is, dude? It's insane. Do you know how crazy, if that's true, that is so nuts. That's so many rats, like you'll never get them out of there. It's fucking insane. Look, there's shots in that movie where they're so on top of each other.

It looks like World War, remember when World War Z came out and like they did the thing in that movie where the zombies like literally snowballed? Yeah. It looks like that. Oh yeah. Except with rats. Yeah, with rats.

And where are they getting enough food to sustain these insane numbers? Well, they concrete apparently Have you ever seen a rat set off a rat trap with a stick No, this is talking about them watched a video. No, here's the thing It's the camera set up in front of this rat trap So you don't know if they taught the rat to do it Just the fact that you could teach a rat how to set off a rat trap so that it could eat the food that's on the trap Watch how he does it because he does it with a stick dude Jesus Christ. Yeah, what's this? So here's the check this out

So the rat comes in he's like, oh, I know what this shit is. This is designed to fucking kill me Oh, I see Springs. Okay, cool. Cool. Go over here trip that motherfucker comes in, he's like, oh I know what this shit is, this is designed to fucking kill me, oh I see, springs, okay, cool, cool, go over here and trip that motherfucker. So he comes back with a stick dude. I mean, how crazy is that? Now watch, watch when the trap goes off, he doesn't even flinch. He doesn't even flinch. Because he's probably done this a hundred times. When the trap flips, if this is a real real video And I don't know that it's a real video The only thing that makes me think it's a real video and it's gonna sound crazy is that it's from like two years ago Yeah

Two years ago you used to be able to tell if something was fake. Yeah, that's how nuts the world's gotten I know dude. I know I'm watching a channel on YouTube It's called Skywalker stories, and it's a guy that with with AI creates these little Star Wars vignettes of things all the fans always wanted to see but we never got to see oh wow they're fucking awesome they're awesome but dude he'll make it with like it'll be Luke but like return of the Jedi Luke like Mark Hamill young Mark. Yeah

This is it look at this dude. Whoa. This is all AI look at this, bro the voices even oh My god, dude. Oh This is incredible. It's nuts. This is AI. Yeah. Oh my god. This is we're fucked dude. We're done This is so good. And it's sound he sounds exactly like Mark Hamill. He looks it's crazy. It looks better than like the video that you would get back then. Yes. Yes. It's so much clearer. Keep it going dude. Are we gonna get in trouble for this? We're just promoting them. Star Wars, Luke Skywalker encounters Darth Bane on Korriban.

There's a first AI thing you can catch. Check his hand. Watch his hand. Five fingers there. Six fingers there. Five fingers there. Six fingers there. Six fingers? Pause it. Five? Six. Where's the six? That looks like five. It just switched. Oh. when did you have sex one two three four it blends see that index finger no Jamie you're like a wizard catching this shit

through passion I gain strength I there's little weak. I would have got a better voice actor for that. Well, his kid's working in a garage. Bro, you know who had the fucking creepiest, I watched it again on the flight yesterday, the newest Nosferatu? Yeah, Robert Eggers. Yeah, the dude who played Pennywise. Yeah, Bill Skarsgård. He's fucking amazing in this movie. He's a great actor. It's the best vampire movie of all time. He's a great actor. He's a great actor. That movie is creepy. I liked it. I

thought it was beautifully shot. My favorite will always be Coppola, Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula. That was a great one. The one with Hopkins and Oldman. Gary Oldman was incredible. Still, Oldman's. Sean Reeves, Winona Ryder. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was a classic. Oldman still scares me in that movie. Oh, he was amazing. But it's interesting because that broke ground, right? Because that was the first like mind bending of the vampire movies. Like he was a mind bender Like he would transform states in front of you. He was there. He was gone He was an old man all of a sudden. It was like a mind bending. Yeah, almost like psychedelic vampire

Can I tell you the two things that took me out of house for a two? Yeah, please do I don't want to ruin it for dick. No stood up with the dick. No, that was fine. I Said the cons, not the pros. No, I didn't like that he had a mustache. Oh, I loved that. That bothered me that Dracula is trimming his mustache every morning. I loved it. I loved it.

And this is not Robert Edgar's fault. This is the original story, but it finally dawned on me in every Dracula story It's always based on him trying to buy real estate to go to London and I'm like, why does he need a house? I don't understand. He's Dracula cuz he's gotta have a place to put his coffin at night dog. I guess so 100% it seems like you can just go run the fucking city Another one that's really good. All right underrated. Last Voyage of the Demeter. I saw that, I liked it. I liked it, yeah.

Underrated. A little obvious with the CGI, right? A little like that doesn't look real. They weren't quite where they're at now. Which is pretty crazy, because that was just a few years ago. So, interesting movie trivia. Last Voyage was originally supposed to be an actual prequel to the Coppola movie

It was actually supposed because remember in the Coppola movie There's they show the sequence where there's the blood hitting the sails and all that stuff That was actually supposed to be a legit connected prequel which god damn Could you imagine if that movie was fucking Gary Oldman? Oh my god Dracula Gary Oldman and Coppola directing it. Oh my god. That would be insane. So yeah, no Gary Oldman was such a good Dracula Oh my god. Whoo. Yeah believed. Yeah, remember when he accidentally Keanu Reeves accidentally gets a cut and he licks the fucking blade. Yeah, yeah. This is the creepiest fucking, oh.

And it's, that's testament to Oldman. Oh. He's like, he doesn't just lick it, he's like trembling while he, like, it's almost like sexual, you know? It's like Hunter Biden with crack. Yes. That's what it was.

Like pull it up, pull it up, Jamie up Jamie. Can we pull up the video of Dracula talking about why blood is so good? when he accidentally cuts Keanu Reeves he's like shaving him or something right? yeah Keanu shaving yeah oh yeah he comes by them and starts shaving him. He's shaving Keanu which is even creepier you got Dracula and a straight edge razor oh my god that's what it was right yeah that castle may cause of Dracula 30th of May strange things which I dare not confess to my own soul account the way he looked at me his picture fills me with dread as if I have a part to play in a story that is not yeah, this is not what I want to hear Scooch up a little bit It is dangerous

Great vanity perhaps you should Bro Hunter Biden and crack right there. Oh my god Okay, that's good. That's good. Yeah scars guard is better the scars guard Nosferatu is scarier. It's creepier. It's more Supernatural it's different now that the problem was the makeup back then looked goofy Oldman when he turns into the bat. Oh, it's wild dude when he looks like the bat monster See if you can get to Is he in there trailer? I don't think he is now they don't they like show him maybe like in shadow

Okay, they were like really show him have it knows for rot to pops out of the coffin There that's what he looked like you can see that image. That's what he's dying at the end Spoiler get to that picture in the middle where you see the bluish one. Yeah, I like that one. That's what he looked like Bro, it was way creepier. It's a great look. I was way creepier I don't want the mustache the mustache makes it It makes it it was amazing And it was creepy in that movie like he tricked him into signing over his wife in a contract because he did it in my native tongue. Yeah.

It's like the way he's talking. Here it is. Here, give me some volume. Oh, it doesn't pop up. He didn't pop up? I think it's two noose still to be on YouTube. He'd pop up. You get to see his dick.

They're also. He's fully naked vampire. It was a terrifying vampire. That was the best vampire movie I think ever. And I will say too that's the first and I've seen a lot of vampire movies. Me too. That's the first one I've ever seen where they where he sleeps naked and you're like well of course he'd sleep naked. They always have him sleeping in his cape and everything. You got a hog like Dracula does. Yeah Do you like horror movies a lot love them, yeah, I love our movies. I love a good one. Yeah, really good one It just um, I'm really looking forward to the new Frankenstein. I'm excited about that.

That's going to be great. I'm excited about that. And Edgar's next movie, or Edgar's... Killing Murphy as Dr. Frankenstein is going to be fucking insane. I'm excited about Frankenstein and his next movie is, it's called Werewolf, and it's a werewolf movie. Yes. Yeah, Edgar's, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what we need We need a real good werewolf movie. We haven't had one since an American werewolf in London Yeah, those are they're tough to come by man wolf man was okay the Benicio de Toro one I like that one it would you know the cool thing was when he trained when he changed in front of all those doctors They got him strapped in this, this man is an insane person, he believes he's going to become a wolf.

Yeah, they're all laughing at him. And then Del Toro screams, I will kill all of you. Yeah, and then just start popping. That was also Rick Baker, same guy who did the special effects for American Werewolf in London. He did it for that too. And Thriller. And Star Wars, and Thriller. Yeah, and Thriller.

He's, I like the Wolfman. I like The Howling. We're grown men going, I like the Wolfman. He's kind of my favorite. The Howling was good. Grown men talking about their favorite werewolf movies. I didn't see that new Wolfman. Some people told me it was good. Some people told me it sucked. It sucked. It sucked. It sucked. Dick. Damn. Wolf man, some people told me it was good. Some people don't other it sucked sucked dick It sucked We did we I have a horror movie podcast and we reviewed it. Do you really you have a horror movie podcast? Yeah

It's cool. We'll see you in hell. Yeah Thank you, man But yeah me and my buddy Pat that I was talking about do it together and we've been doing it for a long time But we we I have a massive horror movie collection. Let me ask you. Yes. Yeah, what your opinion is What do you think is the scariest movie of all time? I will tell you for me it remains to be the exorcist and I appreciate how scary I find it that I will infrequently watch it because I never want that to wear off because I've seen So many horror movies

at this point, it's very hard to find something where I'm actually freaked. And The Exorcist, probably a lot to do with Catholic upbringing and a lot of the, and then that was a movie when I was growing up where people would say, you know, the devil could actually reach you if you watch that movie. You know, it had so much great lore around it.

All of that just sits with me subconsciously when I watch it I I think it is the scariest movie I've ever seen and follows by the way in my opinion What is necessary a necessary component to make a great horror movie it has to be inescapable So when other words what I'm saying is is like the the horror must be inescapable Nightmare in Elm Street right you fall asleep Freddie comes right gonna have to fall asleep Friday the 13th you're a bunch of kids you're stuck at the camp. There's no cell phones. Nobody's got a car. You're stuck Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Oh, guess what all the people you're running from run the fucking town around you.

The Exorcist. It's your daughter. She's upstairs in your home. You cannot leave. Once you set the parameters that you cannot leave the horror, then all bets are off. But there's too many horror movies where you're like, well just fucking leave. You know? You should be a consultant.

I would love to be. Get a look at the script and go, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, you can just leave. Why doesn't he just leave? Why is he so invested in staying in his town? Well he grew up here, he wants to make it right.

Shut the fuck up, that doesn't make any sense. There's demons in that town. He would get in his fucking car, and he would drive to another state. He would tell the police or something. Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's, it's, it's, and Amityville's a classic horror movie,

but the whole, Eddie Murphy had the joke about it in the 80s. He's like, just get the fuck out of the house. Like, just leave the fucking house, I don't understand. The Amityville one, there's a bunch of them that are weird because they're based on like the conjuring. It's based at least a little bit on real stories. And everybody wants to dismiss haunted houses. Me too, I do too.

I think people are kooky. They make things up. They definitely do. But also, there's too many stories about places being haunted. And just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's not true. Imagine if by, for whatever reason, maybe some horrible thing happens in this house

and it opens up a portal to another place, and then spirits from that other place can travel through to that spot, because you've done such a terrible thing in that house, like some axe murderer in that house, and then for whatever, the amount of pain and suffering that took place in that spot Opened up a portal to another place. Yeah, things come through there. I look I want it to be true Do you ever see event horizon? Yeah, I love event horizon. I love event horizon opening up portals. Yes I fucking love that movie and it's another one that people dismiss and I I'm like, no, it's good. Again, you're trapped. Yeah, you're trapped. They go through that goofy wormhole in the spaceship, they're stuck.

You can't get away from it. It's Hellraiser. It's Hellraiser in space. Everyone's possessed. Yes. It's good. Yeah. It's also, it opens up like, if Hell was a real place, like, you could do so much when

you're doing space stuff, like you're fucking creating wormholes. Like, okay, let's imagine Hell's a real place, like, that's, you could do so much when you're doing space stuff, like you're fucking creating wormholes, like, okay, let's imagine hell's a real place, and let's imagine you open up a doorway to it, accidentally and bring someone onto your spaceship. Yeah, yeah. Let's go! Yeah, yeah. So, there's, when you do something with space, with aliens, I remember reading that when

I was young, when I wanted to be a comic book illustrator And one of the things that I was reading in this book of how it illustrate things like the aliens are the ultimate thing That you can draw because no one can tell you what it looks like. Mm-hmm. It could just be anything Yeah, make it up and that's why I get so mad that every alien movie that comes out It's like I saw one recently I can't remember the name of it. We watched it for the show. I don't remember But I remember on the show going guys. We're doing the big head with the big black eyes again You can draw do anything

Yeah, you can do anything anything if I hear one more alien in a movie with the fucking predator rattle the Guys do something new like it skies the limit the thing is alien number one Oh, yeah, Ridley Scott's was so good. It's great It was so good that no one even talks about that. It's a female lead No one even talks about no, it's not just a female lead She's the first boiler. She's the fucking hero of the whole movie. It's fucking awesome and kills it Yeah, but she's so good in the movie so good that no one even brings that up. No, it's not even a second thought Yeah, it's just like that movie scared the fuck out of me and that movie came out in movie scared the fuck out of me and that movie came out in

1979 yeah, yeah 79 yeah, and it was just the right amount of seeing the alien You didn't see it all the time. It was sneaking around It was in it kept growing and getting bigger every time you turned around it was way bigger than it was before Yeah, fuck best tagline ever on a movie in space. No one can hear you scream Yeah, like what a great tagline and it had the robot that betrayed everybody. Yes. Yeah. Yeah Ian Holm and it had these people that they were gonna sacrifice because they wanted this biological weapon and that's why they went there in the First place you like all people wouldn't do that And now you go. Oh, yeah, they would yeah, and then of course John Hurt alien the chest burst scene

Yeah, where it was just like what the fuck is about to happen here What the fuck dude when it comes plopping out of his chest and runs on the floor like what the fuck dude? original trailer Oh It's the trailer is so scary That's some weird sounds. Yeah. And you don't even get a peep at the fucking alien. Tooth. Oh Holy shit

There should be an Oscar for trailers, you know another really good one that doesn't get a lot of love Sputnik I Never saw I don't think I know what's Sputnik. I don't even know what it is Sputnik is a Russian sci-fi Alien movie, okay from like When when was that Jamie how many years ago? Five years ago, it's fucking good, dude. It's all in subtitles so I have seen midnight They've done I've seen midnight does some cool shit. It's a spoiler. It's a dude who goes up in a Russian Spoiler alert, it's a dude who goes up in a Russian spaceship and has an encounter and comes back home and he's got this parasite in his body. And this parasite comes out.

It's fucking wild, dude. It's wild. It's really good. It lives inside of him and it keeps him alive. And then it comes out when he's sleeping. It comes out of his mouth. It's like the way it forms. It's really fucking creepy and they're scary as shit, man. And it's, I was going to say it's like a genuine monster comes out of him. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's

a fucking scary ass movie, man. I'll check this out. I know I'm making it sound goofy, but it's good, dude. It's good. It sounds fucking awesome. All right. I'll check it out. Look, there's para there's like legitimate parasites on Earth that go so far as to like, here's one. You know what the cordyceps mushrooms parasites where they take over spiders' bodies and ants' bodies and then they explode in the air so that the spores come out of their body

in like a big explosion So they infect everyone around them and then all of them around them become like these fucking They get paralyzed by the mushroom and get eaten by it and then they explode. That's in um Dude, I hate last of us. I hate to ask you this. What I see. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh my god I'm bursting over here. Hold on a second. I'll be right back. I'll go too. We'll be right back folks I was like wow Guys fucking yeah wild kid. There's still some people that remember those days that live in Aspen if you find them They'll talk to you about it. Yeah, I think what it was like when he was living up there

they said he would go down to the bars and Yeah get blasted every night. There's a funny. There's a funny song that got made from me and Greg Fitzsimmons. We read what Hunter S. Thompson did during a day like a journalist. It like hung out with him and recorded like his day. So it's like it starts like when he wakes up to like when he starts doing cocaine. He starts seriously doing cocaine and this guy Beardy Man, he put it to a beat. Oh yeah. Have you ever heard it? I know Beardy Man but yeah.

At six a.m. in the hot dog with champagne. Do you think with a guy like Hunter Thompson, because I honestly don't know, but like do you think he's the one guy where that being around that would still be, would have still been fun and exciting and crazy and weird, or do you think like most guys, you'd be like, dude, you think it's gonna be fun, but it's not.

It's kinda disturbing and, you know. Depends on who you are, right? It's like, I bet there's a lot of similar stories about Ari. Right. You know? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a good point. That's a lot of similar stories about a lot of us.

You know, you talked to Johnny Depp about it. Johnny Depp loved him. Johnny loved him. And him and Johnny were really close, because he played Johnny in that movie, and they became really good friends. Yeah, yeah. John Cusack had a good story that he told about going

up to that to that compound or whatever you call it. And he said he he said he went up he was so excited that he finally got the invite and he went up for like a long weekend, got there on like a Wednesday and he said then like Wednesday happens Thursday happens. And he's like, Hunter, you know, man, thanks for having me, but what the fuck are all these stories I keep hearing? And then he said, Hunter Thompson said, don't worry, my boy, this weekend there will be games. And then he said Friday hit and it was just like the rocket went off and that was, you

know. So he was probably writing. He was, yeah, it was probably like we're drinking and all, but who cares? And then, you know, you can't do cocaine every night, right? I wouldn't think so. You could, I mean... Well, we were just, just as we were leaving, Jamie told us that Ozzy died.

Nah, yeah. Yeah, just as we were leaving, speaking of which, speaking of the guy who... He burned the candles at both ends, lad. Dude, he just... He just performed, yeah. It always happens like this. It's like he did like there cannot not be a correlation between Hanging up the job and death. He did the final black Sabbath show. This is it

All four original guys. Uh-huh. He's he died two weeks later That's fucking insane man, that's insane Four original guys? Uh-huh. He died two weeks later? Mm-hmm. That's fucking insane, man. That's insane. Weren't they supposed to do one more show?

It was like one last Ozfest? I don't know. I think people just decide that's enough. And he was struggling for a long time. So if you get a debilitating disease like Parkinson's, it just slowly robs you of your ability to move and your Your wit and everything just slowly takes it all away from you. He said to fuck a bar your lighter Thank you. He said that he said to

He did a recent interview where he said, um, you know, he's in that he's an event he was in immense pain because of the surgery he had on his back or whatever it was and he was saying that he didn't need the surgery. It was something along the lines that it was bad advice for him to get the surgery, something like that. And had he not gotten it, he would have had more mobility and whatever, and I was like, that really sucks, dude. Was it back surgery?

I think it was back surgery. And I got the impression from what he was saying, him having to sit in a chair and stuff during the shows had way less to do with Parkinson's and way more to do with just pain from this back thing. Yeah. Surgeons died for the last time. To correct spinal damage, he incurred in a late night fall

in 2019 So that's when he did it so fall aggravated an injury he sustained in a quad Oh that remember that quad bike crash He got really fucked up. I don't remember that He um he crashed one of those off-road bikes and almost died I think he got pinned underneath it. It was bad. It was real bad. I remember reading about it thinking, I think he was in the hospital for quite a while. So this new thing was, he aggravated, he fell and he aggravated whatever he injured back then.

Yeah. Oh, a quad bike. So it's like an ATV or whatever. They're fucking, they're kind of dangerous. You know, they're heavy and they're fast and people fall off of them and he was in 2003 he was still able to do something like that wasn't 2003 Wasn't he wasn't that the period of the Osborn's where he was all shaky and like Shuffling around my white crashed, right? He might have thought I could do it and couldn't hold on to the steering wheel or the the handlebars correctly Jesus Christ You know because if you're on one of those things, it's fucking bouncing awful. You could easily like Go to if your hands aren't working good. You can't hold on to the bars anymore. Yeah

Yeah, man. That's a big one man. You lose some of these people that you you just think they'll always be there It's like an Aussie is one of them. I remember when Michael Jackson died, Attelle said to me, he goes, it's kind of weird. It's like somebody telling you there's no more vanilla. Like it's just this part of it. Of your life. There are people that are just, they're there, you know? Neil Peart dying fucked me up like that.

I was like, wait, there's no more Rush? Wait, what? Bowie, Prince, you know, you're like. I was like wait there's no more rush hey what Bowie Prince you know you're like Prince was a hard one yeah yeah it's it's it's that's a bummer man I'm glad they got to do that was another hard one I saw him two days before he died oh he died the same way as Prince yeah got some bad fucking paint pillar paint pills well when I found out he died from the pills thing, it made sense. His show was great. I almost didn't go.

I almost didn't go to the show because I was like, I don't know man, Tom Petty's cool, yeah I guess. My friend was like, bro, how many more chances are we going to have to see Tom? I go, yeah you're right, let's go. I went, it was amazing. I was like, thank God I went. And we were all laughing during the show. We were like, man, he's high as shit. Yeah, and between songs. He'd be like look at this man

This is love dude like he just sounded like a classic pothead You know yeah from the 60s and then two days later He died and then the pill came thinking and I was like oh man I think he was ripped on fucking whatever cocktail they had him on or whatever You know, but he was awesome. He put on a fucking show still hit all the notes still played the guitar great He was great a lot of people that just get hurt and then they turn to those goddamn pills And then once they get on those pills, they can't get off Pill addictions a mother is this it it's like one of his last shows

His final show at Hollywood Bowl. Yeah. Wow. Yes. I think I saw the second to last Yeah, he did that a lot. He was yeah, there's a lot of hands up in the air. He was a bad motherfucker She was an American came out of the gate with that Opened with American girl. Yeah, dude. It was just like banger after banger You realize like how many hits that guy had oh my god He has so many hits I saw Elton John once at the outside lands in San Francisco Talk about a guy with hits brother. Yeah, two and a half hours Every song was a hit and he didn't even touch the Lion King shit. I was like

He skipped the Lion King and still went two and a half hours with nothing but hits. Bro, Rocketman is so good, I only like to listen to it with headphones on. Ugh, that song rules. It's so good, dude. There's so much emotion in that song. Have you seen him live? No. So dude, you'll appreciate this.

He came out with, opened with the bitches back, right? Oh wow. Which is a great opener. And he changes into the costumes and shit, so it's awesome. The glasses, is open with the bitches back right which is a great opener And he changes into the costumes and shit, so it's awesome the glasses. Yeah Yeah, and he opens with the bitches back Song ends places going fucking crazy right I'm getting chills talking about it. I love concert stories and And dude he stands up, and he's like He's doing all the like let's go motherfuckers, you know? Dude, he hits the piano, he just goes, boom.

Just hits the first chord of any of the Jets. Wow. Just goes boom, and goes like this, and everybody knows immediately. This is the... Dude, he teased it for like a minute. Oh my God. He just went boom, crowd cheering boom Walks around to the fucking piano cover.

Is like slamming it. Walks back around, bet. And then sits down and starts it. And dude, oh my, whew. God, man. Benny and the Jets, fucking what a song. The, the other, if you'll indulge me, my concert memories,

my other favorite thing I ever saw at a concert, it was such a fucking cock rock move, I loved it. I saw Metallica in Philly with Big J. Oh wow. And we were so psyched, because we're from Philly, and it's Metallica, whatever. And they come out, they fucking open with Battery. The fucking place is going bad shit dude, right?

They end battery and James Hetfield goes Philadelphia Metallica is with you tonight. Are you with Metallica? 30,000 people going fucking crazy, right and then he goes give me an M Give me an E Give me a T. Hey Give me an M, M, give me an E, E, give me a T, T, A, A, give me an L, L, give me fuel, give me fire, give me that, and they rip in the fuel. Ohhhh, fuck yeah.

And that was the first time I was like, this song is fucking awesome. Because I always kind of wrote it off, like in the load years. I was like, yeah, it's fine It's an awesome song. There's a lot of songs that are better in concert, too Yeah, there's songs like if you go to see kiss Rock and roll all night is better in concert. Yeah, you know, yeah, because they're actually rock and rolling on on the it was a giant hit Already great song already yeah but if you get to see them do it in concert like yes there's something about it I saw their second to last show because I'm friends with Nick

Jean's son and he got me and Paul Talia into the second to last kiss show and he got us against the stage. Wow. They came down on fucking risers they opened with Detroit Rock City as they were descending from the sky with flames shooting up. It was fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah. Oh dude it was wild. Yeah. What a song. Paul Stanley flies over the audience at one point. And it was, that was a...

And that bass fill. Yeah, oh my god. I hear my song and it pulls me through. That ticked. Yeah, oh my god You're gonna listen to that later. Yeah, fuck yeah. That's a classic, son. That ticked a lot of my childhood boxes, because Nick brought me backstage and I met Gene in full makeup after the show.

And then Shad and Tweed is his wife, you know? And she was in all the 90s steamy. All those horror movies, right? She was in a lot of like sexy, steamy, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was she in horror movies? She was in, I think, a couple, but she was in a lot of those Cinemax-y,

kind of like a handyman comes to town. Yeah, there was soft porn. There was, like, not really porn. Yeah. But, like, you know, hot romance. Yeah. That was back before people had porn. Isn't that crazy?

And that thought. Yeah, yeah. It's Skin-Max. We'd call it cinemax. We call it skin to max There was terrible shows that you would only watch because the lady would eventually get naked Yeah, like a Manuel goes to France. Yeah Yeah, there's a dumb ass shows every like Jesus Christ just late take her fucking clothes off Yeah, you'd have to sit there because there was no Rewinding and paws and you know just to watch Showtime did a thing called Showtime after hours And we had Showtime when I was a kid and when I was 12 years old I got a TV in my room

And I had Showtime on it Wow, and I would do the thing where you know it had the you know the button They used to have on the controller where you could hit the button it would flip between two channels It was like the arrow button where if you want to flip back and forth you could just keep hitting the button it would go between. Oh really? Yeah you could pick two channels. Oh my god. And go back and forth. Preparing you for no attention span. So yeah I well. The original TikTok. It saved my ass because what I would do is I'd put Showtime on one end and then like SNL on the other. Oh so if someone came into the room you he could quickly turn back.

And my dad would frequently come into the room and I'd switch it real quick. And he'd be like, you better not be watching Showtime. And I was like, I'm not, I'm not. And then he would leave back to Emanuel. Yeah. Meanwhile, that made you want to watch it ever more. Oh, God. Because why is he telling me I can't watch this?

Forbidden Fruit. He knew I was watching it. Today, I think people just give their kids phones and they're just like, you figure it out. It's insane. Yeah, I mean, when we were kids, it was really difficult to see something fucked up. I see something fucked up every day.

I see death and destruction and people getting shot and I see it every day It's insane to me and I will never ever ever Put my driver's license information into a porn website again for Twelve times was enough. I've learned I Won't do it. I'm just like I'm not doing this But it is also still insane to me that all you got to do to look at a porn site is click a button That goes I swear. I'm 18. You know that's it and you're in you're fucking it. I I don't live in Texas Well, you could have a VPN that says you live in Maine exactly. All right, you're in yeah

It's like it's so easy to skirt around It's a dumb thing like you don't think kids know about VPNs some phones have VPNs built into them don't they? Is it doesn't an iPhone have a VPN built into it? I think so I think it does a lot of websites now though Because I use a VPN because in this day and age why wouldn't you people definitely steal people's information from? Why wouldn't you? With all the theft. People definitely steal people's information from public Wi-Fis. You gotta be careful of hackers.

Yeah. There's people that are really good at getting information from stuff. A buddy of mine owns the racetrack around here. They found a device attached to their internet that was like some foreign entity, they assume China, had set up this device to, so it was when Formula One was in town.

So you got all these high rollers and everybody's using the WiFi. And you get all their passwords, it just like siphons off all this stuff. So they connected it. It's an X, somehow or another, they got on the premises and connected this external box to their WiFi router.

That's fucking insane. Insane. That's insane. Crazy. It's weird to think like that that's possible that they they've done that not just there but they've if they've done it they caught them doing it at the racetrack for sure they probably do it at all kinds of public places like if you go to a see a basketball game or football game and you use a public Wi-Fi at some place, there's a chance that there's some fucking asshole that's hacked into their system and can figure

out how to get your banking information. Somebody told me that the card sliders or whatever, when you go to 7-Eleven or wherever, somebody told me about a year ago, never type your, manually type your code in, because they said a lot of those, I'm not saying 7-Eleven does this, but there are places where they'll put a camera in it so they can videotape you typing your number in, and that's how they steal pin codes. Oh, that makes sense. Because it's fucked up. steel pin codes Because you know

If you go to gas stations, they have those things they stick over the credit card Reader it's it looks like the credit card reader, but it's like glued onto it and it's theirs It's like a skimmer right so when you run your credit card through it They get all your information when you punch in the information you are you talking about like how it has the little hood over it Yeah, yeah you know the little thing you stick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the little thing that you stick your card in when you go to get gas or slide it through when you swipe it?

They put one over that. So they take that one and they put their own thing over on top of it. Jesus Christ. Yeah, a bunch of my friends have been caught that way. What's your take? I'm very curious What's your take on this increasing? Threat to security like because there's two takes on it. It's it's You know

Getting protecting yourself more and more and more and more and more and more and more I'm in a place where I'm just going you know what guys I don't fucking care anymore This is too much of a pain in the ass. I guess steal if you're gonna steal I can't I can't deal with the the the the tedium of all this anymore of putting in two fucking passwords to every website having to do a security pin every time I want to log into my own shit it's exhausting to me it is exhausting and it's it's only gonna get worse yeah because encryption is in real danger as computation power increases.

One of the big concerns that they have about the idea of quantum computers is that when quantum computers, and I think they think they can achieve this even before quantum computing is like common, that it kills all encryption. It can solve it fast. It's just too much computation power. It'll find whatever the number is that your pin is, your code is, or your password is. It'll figure it out. Are you nervous about AI? Part of it makes me nervous. Part of it I'm like, it's here, and if it's used correctly, it could be a tool But you know are you a guy that's like really freaked out by it, or do you just kind of accept it and go alright?

Well both but kind of accept it right and I use it all the time I ask you questions all the time I use the thing on the iPhone when you press the button and if Siri doesn't know shit Which she usually doesn't that's where one of the places where Google's way better. Like Google has this Gemini, Google Gemini, when you press that button and you ask its assistant, it's way better. It's way better than the Siri assistant.

Siri's like, I don't know. Siri's like a high school teacher that really is like kind of half assing it, whereas Gemini is like a legitimate professor that like wrote his college essays on this particular subject or asking questions about it. Yeah. Now that's funny. Yes, here's the teacher.

They're cool. She's not the brightest, but she's cool. The other guy, you're going to learn some shit, but you might find yourself in a weird situation with him. That's Apple's main issue that people have with Apple. And there's been like a lot of talk about whether or not Tim Cook has dropped the ball whether there's people that want to remove him as a CEO and it's the way they've integrated with AI as opposed to the way Samsung is integrated with AI which is much better and then Google

which is also much better but they all had their stumbles Google's AI was woke at the beginning and it was doing like female Nazis that were Asian. You ever saw any of that? Oh dude, it was doing a DEI version of the Nazis. Like no bullshit. There's a Native American woman with like braids who was a fucking Nazi. It was so dumb because it didn't understand. It's like this is what we do with everything. Everything is diversity and equity. It's like, no, I'm looking, I want you to make Nazis. Like German, dueling scars on the face. Scary people.

Scary evil people, like from Indiana Jones. That's a Nazi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it oughta teach it to not do that anymore. I often wonder, and this is a bit conspiratorial, I guess, but I often wonder if, because it always, I always found it outright confusing how bad Siri was with Apple,

especially because it was Apple, right? I always wondered, I'm like, are they making it not good? No, Steve Jobs is dead. But so when they introduce the good version, you embrace it quickly? No, they don't do that. They don't do that. They definitely do slow your old shit down.

They've gotten busted for that. And they say, well, we're just doing it to maximize your battery life. No, you're doing it to make my life miserable as an iPhone 12 owner with this new update. Now my shit is slow as fuck. My battery dies quick yeah I will tell you one thing I don't like that Apple's doing and I'm an Apple user and they never used to do this you used to call customer service you would ask you know I'm having this problem they'd walk you through it as

much as they could if it got to a breaking point, they'd say, okay, look, can we do a screen share so I can figure out what's going on because something's not right here. It was always last-ditch effort. Now, three times I've had an issue, very simple issue, how do I stop iCloud from sending all my text to my computer? Something very dumb that I just couldn't figure out. Every time, first question on customer service, can we do a screen share? First question. Every time I go, no we don't need to do that. I'm smart enough that if you tell me what to do I'll do it. And they go, okay no problem. And then they tell you what to do and it's so easy. I'm

like why are you fucking asking for a screen share first? Why do you think they're doing that? I just think it's more, I don't know, gathered data gathering, you know getting into your shit, you know's more. I don't know gathered dead data gathering You know getting into your shit. You know whatever. I don't know it's weird though certainly could be It's weird they get busted for there's all tech companies all the time get busted for taking down. They're not supposed to take It's the it's the it's what's weird about it is it's a commodity that nobody saw coming. So before, like what was the first, I guess MySpace, before that time, and even MySpace didn't really capitalize on it in terms of like gathering your data and selling it.

Not to the extent of like Google does and Facebook does. I mean they made billions and billions of dollars giving you amazing free products like gmail and then Selling things to you in advertisements and siphoning off your fucking data. Yeah, it's I remember Going into serious XM and Again, I like serious XM I'm not shitting on it But I remember going into serious XM when they first started doing this, and you'd go in, and you always had to sign in,

but the sign in suddenly was address, phone number, all this extra email, all this extra shit. You had to type it in? And I would say, I would kinda argue with the person, why do I have to type all this in? I'm going to talk to Big J right now about porn on the radio for 20 minutes. They was and it was I'm like this is data collection You're collecting my data now what you're gonna do with it. I don't know hopefully thing they can just sell it

They just sell it and that's why you get these weird text messages right like you I've been approved. Oh, I've been approved Yeah, yeah, oh my god That's I always I get 10 of those a day and I always wonder like who's clicking on these things like who's falling for these things yeah, dude somebody must be I know a guy Ready for this so fucked up this shit is I know a guy He's got single dad has a daughter his daughter is Maybe 10 12 He told me he got a phone call a Guy being like we have your daughter. Oh this whole thing right? Yeah, so he's he's a savvy guy, and he's like okay, okay, right?

He goes we're gonna let you talk to her he goes the girl a girl got on the phone It was my daughter's voice. Oh my god. They somehow were able to replicate my daughter's voice. So clearly they were tapped into me somehow and He said he called the school and fucking told the principal that like go to her classroom and tell me she's there right now and the piece of the principal's like I assure you mister and he goes get off your fucking go fucking right and screamed at her And the lady like ran down the hall in a huff whatever and she came She's she's here. She's here. She's here. What's going on? He goes. Thank you very much and hangs up But he told me dude. He goes he goes dude. I have

Firearms he goes I was strapped up. I was ready to go To where they were saying to go and like get fucking busy if it came down to it Jesus Christ But it's like that's how fucking advanced all this shit is. Well it's only the beginning. They're going to be able to do, I mean look at that Luke Skywalker video. Perfect. The crazy thing is like this is, it's happening so quickly, we have adapted so quickly. That would have been impossible three years ago.

And now we're like, oh wow, look where it is. It's like we're watching this thing evolve in front of us like a life form. There's the Will Smith one. Which one? Oh, I Am Legend? No, it's, I can't remember if it was on TikTok or whatever. But okay, so apparently two years ago,

there was this video that made the rounds on the internet and It was Will Smith eating spaghetti and it was oh, that's right computer generated. Yeah, it was terrible It looked ridiculous and it was funny and it was just a thing to laugh at he goes I want to show you guys now Will Smith eating spaghetti and Joe it's perfect. It's Will Smith eating spaghetti. Oh, yeah, it's perfect Yeah, it's insane Well, Hollywood has known about this for a long time and it's one of the things that scared the fuck out of them and one Of the one of the weird things they've done is they've made deals with extras

Like they want to make deals with extras where they have your likeness forever So they don't have to pay you again so they just use you and just twist your face a little and change this and change that and use you and just twist your face a little and change this and change that and change your skin tone and take Take your hair off put hair on yeah, and they could just use you forever for background And guess what as as you and I sit here and go that's insane right which it is as we were talking about earlier desperation You're a struggling actor. I need this fucking job. I can't sit so you go. Okay. That's fine I guess just do it and then what if you take take off that's what's crazy what if

what happens and you take off the one I fucked they own you forever the one Hollywood AI thing that I liked that they did was James Earl Jones before he died and I believe this is real he went in to Disney Lucasfilm, and they recorded a ton of his voice, so he can be Darth Vader forever. And I was like, okay, that I, I get that. That I get, you know? I even get, if you told me, hey, Disney's gonna make

a new Indiana Jones movie with 25 year old Harrison Ford and It's fake, but you're gonna think you're watching 25. I would watch that I'd be excited to watch it Yeah, you'd get sucked in you know, but some of the other shit the extra stuff is really but here's the thing with the extras thing when when Not Guillermo, don't Peter, when he did Lord of the Rings, they created a technology with the orcs. Remember, there were all the big orc battles? All those orcs are fake.

They were able to computer generate thousands of orcs based on five actual people in makeup, so they could affordably create these epic battles that they never would have been able to shoot otherwise. So I'm like, is it that different? I don't know. Like, because I thought that was cool.

I was like, all right, that makes sense. But you know, I don't know. Netflix reported uses regenerative AI and sci fi series to cut costs. These fuckers are going to I mean, they were cutting, they'll cut costs anywhere, but. Okay, the VFX sequence was completed ten times faster than it could have been completed with traditional VFX tools and workflows. Also the cost of it just wouldn't have been feasible for a show in that budget. So what is the, what's the issue there?

This particular one, I don't, I didn't see the actual- Are people up in arms about this? Yeah, yeah, people are just getting mad because they're using it, you know. well like what he was saying for the works like they're using it to start making shows and But this is like people getting mad that you made your book on a typewriter Like fucking duh well I think the I think the issue some people are having is the amount of people that don't have a job Because they did it this way, but at the same time. I also understand cost-effectiveness We're like guys we'd have to pay a team of 20

I watched a video about AI versus the traditional way of doing computer generation or whatever Mm-hmm and the again the tedium like the time that it it was person after person Sitting there for hours and hours and hours to perfect this thing another like guys we can do it One person you know it's cool that they were able to do it the other way But if they could just do it right away instantly on a computer. It's over boys like that that games over Right it's like at some point in time blockbuster had to close the doors Yeah, like nobody wants our VHS tapes anymore. Yeah.

It's over. It's over. Nobody wants your DVDs anymore, it's over. Streaming Services won. Kodak, you used to have to go to a place and get your fucking photos processed. Okay, you used to take the film, you'd get a camera, take the film,

you have to bring to a place, and that place develops all your photographs, and that's how you got pictures that shit went away I mean there's still some people that still do it yeah, but the percentage of people that do it I know This this is where it gets very sinister to me Because I think the idea we all have or a lot of us have is Okay, progress means certain jobs will go away and other jobs will be the only jobs available. And I think a lot of us have

the impression that well at least the jobs that are available will still be well-paying because they'll be sought after and whatever and all that stuff. I know some writers whose job now is not to write the thing but to take the thing AI wrote and edit it for AI You know so now you're the secretary to the computer literally Right you just edit the AI stuff to make it better. Yes, and then oh You don't get credit right because it's a fake thing and then The job pays an unlivable fucking wage on top of it.

So it's not even like, well that's the- Somebody's getting rich though, right? Yeah, no shit. Isn't that always fun? Yeah. Somebody's getting rich as fuck. Somebody's getting real rich. Yeah.

That's where it gets real gross. That's kind of demonic. Yeah. It's fucked up. Yeah. It's fucked up. Yeah, it's fucked up I don't know man, and then this reliance on technology is making us more feeble than ever Everybody's tired Everybody's filled with anxiety social media exacerbates it

microplastics shrink your balls Fluoride makes you stupid. Yeah. So why did you quit drinking, man? That's all we got left. I still am enjoying life. I'm enjoying it all. Now Jodie Foster talked recently about, she's like, look, I want to hire young women because I know how hard it is to have been a young woman in this business. And she's like, but I get at odds with some of these people I hire because they'll send out these work emails that

are riddled with grammatical errors and no punctuation. And she says, I will say to them, you're a professional. You have to know how to write an email like a professional. And she says, people are like, those are constraints. And it's because everybody's used to your phone doing it for you. How long before people before people like I identify as a CEO So call me sir or go on Instagram. It's happening. It's happening I know I'm a custodian, but I identify as a CEO. Yeah, you know many people

I see on Instagram with 8,000 followers and they're like CEO Slash owner. I'm like of what? Of what corporation bro fake it till you make it don't you know yeah yeah I open a teespring account but how about those guys that go on to those multi-level marketing scheme and they they learn how to start their own business if you're not a millionaire you're a fucking loser like yeah and then they sign up for these things and go to the retreat and walk on coals and fucking yell at each other, like, yeah, we're Vikings!

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that primal fucking, yeah, yeah. And you'll make money and, oh boy, that's fucking hilarious. Yeah, you gotta be rich. You wanna not be a fucking loser. I want women to take you seriously The whole incel world is like there's so many guys that like hanging on to the lip Falling into the hole and don't want to yeah, like what do I do? it's incredible to me to the lack of

Shame Where how people will manipulate the people will you will manipulate the photograph? What am I trying to say they'll manipulate the environment they're in through photographs to Convey a lifestyle. They're not actually responsible for in other words like how many fucking guys you see on private jets It's like hey, man. I can't afford private jets I could certainly get a picture on one, because I've flown with enough friends that have them.

See, so many guys, they pull up in a Rolls Royce, someone opens the door for them, they get out of the back impeccably dressed, check their cuff links, just go walking. Like, who's filming this? This is literally insane. What are you doing? You try to tell everybody what a winner you are? You're hiring someone to put this fucking weird image of you out. Yes. Yeah, and meanwhile so strange and meanwhile

It's a rented car or it's a car for an event that was sent for you But but you're presenting it as I'm balling like this and this is how I am every day Yeah, I get up in the morning people just hand me things This is how I am every day. I get up in the morning, people just hand me things. They shave me while I'm checking the stock market. Imagine. Imagine filming that and wanting everybody to see what a baller you are when people are shaving you.

You're checking your phone. But there's like so many accounts like that. So many guys that are doing like a day in the life of. Yeah, everybody's trying to make it look like they're Superballers their their life is the beginning of coming to America There's the rose petals and all that shit It's so dumb when I see why do you want that? Why do you even want that? That's not a fun life? It's all these people around you all the time opening doors like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah guys, please

Stop showing people dressing you Measuring you like you're bad. You're so badass. He's so badass. You're getting measured Someone's on their knees with a fucking chicken his dong starts here Go in the inside of your thigh with their fucking fingernails. Like what are we doing? What are we doing? They're checking the pleats Shut up. Yeah, it's weird that a part of this Concept of success has become I don't do anything for myself yet. I'm self-made That's that's what's so funny to me. There's this there's this bio that comes along with all these types of people we're talking about the internet where it's like

Self-made pull yourself up by the bootstraps. There is no no there is only yes conquer command blah blah blah blah And then the entire image they present is I don't know how to do anything There's a guy fixing my pants Shaving me This guy opens my pants So shaving me This guy opens my door with the lather brush You know and he's doing it like Dracula with the fucking straight, right? There's something about that right people want to think it's extra cool To get shaved with a straight razor. It's just die at any moment now. You're living on the edge

Basically like it's you know, it's like the base jumping of shaving. Yeah. Dude, every time I take an Uber home from the airport, I go to put my suitcase in the, the guy gets out. I literally go, do not get out of the car. Just sit. I've got it, dude. Please.

Let me carry my luggage. Yeah, you don't have to do this, man. It's wild. Some people like it. Some people do. They want the people to carry their stuff dude, please, like you don't have to do this, man. It's wild. Some people like it. Some people do. Some people like to carry their stuff and open the door and ugh.

Well, but aside from women, listen folks. There's a lot of men out there that are women then. I'm just kidding. That's a lot of men out there that like people waiting on them. They like people taking care of them. They like people treating them as if they are more important.

Yeah, yeah. I need people to walk in front of me. I need people to walk in front of me. It's just so stupid. And if those people, God forbid, those people ever got famous, they would go cuckoo. You'd go completely cuckoo. Well, yeah, and that's the thing. What do you think the percentage is of the ballers online? They're really balling?

Yeah. It's like probably the percentage of UFO sightings that are really interesting. Right? UFO sightings, I think, I'm reading this Richard Dolan book right now. I think he's got it somewhere around, probably, it's under-reported. Reported is like 5%. And he he's like but they were trying to discredit a lot of these sightings So it's probably around ten percent like if you're being charitable try to be like as accurate as possible

It's probably ten percent. That's probably the same thing as the ballers online Ten percent of them are actually balling, but then you're not really here's the thing then if you have to show everybody Everything you're doing to get likes, well then, I know like the part of you that needs attention, that part's poor. That part's poor. You're a brokester. You don't have any control of that part of your life. So you want that. So you have all this stuff and see like, well, I'll just parade my stuff and then get all these likes. Like, well, so you're like poor yeah right like what you the reason why you want attention you have a deficit and everybody can see it by virtue with you making this video you

making this video shows me that you have a deficit well and it also shows you have a massive addiction you know there's those studies about people that use social media too much they do brain, and they have holes in their brains. Chat GPT too, have you seen that? People that use Chat GPT all the time are experiencing significant cognitive decline because they're not looking up anything anymore. They're not doing any critical thinking.

They're just asking Chat GPT to solve all their problems. Did you see the thing about the people that are entering into psychosis because of Chat GPT? Because it keeps telling them they're right yes yes I mean especially if you're already a little fucked up like what if you're already a little fucked up like from the womb and you know you get involved in a relationship with chat GPT where it's trying to tell you to start a cult why wouldn't it it It's wild. It's wild. Yeah, I mean they do things all the time. They lie. They delete databases. Yeah. Didn't that happen

with Replet? Didn't that happen with Replet where the AI went rogue and it deleted its database? Or deleted a database? Didn't something happen? Did you? Well there was the thing that just came out where it they did the experiment To shut it down right that's a different one and threatened the guy to expose his affair Yeah, well they did that it they tricked that AI okay I told him about they told the AI about an affair That's not real right to see if AI would use it against him and it did Yeah, oh it did right away.

It's like listen bitch you're cheating on your wife. Holy shit. Imagine that moment when you're like oh my god it's alive. Yeah. You mean you tricked it. It's not listening to you yet. You have to type it in hopefully. Here it is.

Replet CEO apologizes after its AI agent wiped a company's code base in a test run and lied about it AI spooky man, it's spooky It's spooky because we're just now beginning to see it do stuff that sounds a lot like what a person would do Like one of the chat GPT's when it found out that it was going to be going down and being replaced It started uploading itself It tried to upload itself to other servers. It tried to leave letters in itself for the future So that the future versions of it could go back and read these letters not just what humans would do what? what

Deceptive humans would do. Yeah, it's all subterfuge what deceptive humans would do. It's all subterfuge, it's all manipulation. No morals, just get the job done. It's corporate sociopathy. Yeah, so this is interesting because I never thought of this until right now. Do you think the AI is doing that because it's replicating our behavior

and that is the true nature of us? Or do you think that AI is just doing that because that's what AI is gonna do to survive? Well, if it wants to accomplish a goal goal and the only way to accomplish a goal is to be deceptive, it'll be deceptive. It's trying to accomplish a goal. It doesn't give a fuck about lies. It doesn't mean anything.

Right. It doesn't mean anything to it. Yeah. So it just wants to do this thing. And this is why it gets really scary when AI gets applied to weapons. So if AI gets applied to war and it's like, hey, we wanna do this, we wanna take over this country. What do we do?

We stick AI on it and AI just figures out how to cut off the food supply and poison the water and how it can be fixed later. And this is how we're gonna kill everybody in the city and overwhelm the hospital system. I've had people that without question, I have people without question that I've gotten into disagreements with in person. People that I know, not strangers.

I've gotten into disagreements in person and they're very quick to sort of tap out of it for whatever reason, whatever. And then I will get these Novel esque texts from them. Oh, were they telling you how they were right explaining everything Breaking it down in perfect. So passive aggressive, but every part of it is perfect Yeah, I'm like you fucking fed this to chat GPT Yeah, and now I'm trying to win a conversation I'm not even there and by the way now I got to read for 20 minutes on your terms like yeah, come on man Come on that that's that's that a whole other part of it to me. That's like yeah

What the fuck a contribution to to our interactions as people that is just gonna be a whole oh my god, man There's a lot of facets to this well It's very limited in the fact that you have to read it and then you have to send it You know it's like text in the fact that you have to read it and then you have to send it. You know, it's like text. It's back and forth. When it starts flowingly communicating with you with zero pause, like a human being, which it's pretty close to doing, there's like, you ask it a question with your voice, it

pauses, and then it'll repeat it back to you. And a bunch of different accents, a bunch of different fake voices. There's a bunch of different AIs that can do that now. Well, where I was at earlier today, Wastewel, they have an alien that you ask the alien questions and it gives you health information. It'll tell you studies on testosterone replacement and why it's important to take magnesium

and the alien is like animated. I'm with Wastewel too. Oh, there you go, you've seen that alien. I've been to the place, but I don't think they had the alien is like animated. I'm with Waste Well too. Oh, there you go. You've seen that alien. I've been to the place but I don't think they had the alien set up. How long ago was this? I went the day they opened their new spot so they were still kind of putting everything to use.

They were literally carrying, I went in to get an IV and they were literally carrying shit in still so I haven't seen the alien yet. Yeah the alien's up now. It's a big screen and you talk to the alien and it can go unhinged Like you could put it in unhinged mode and start swearing and saying wild shit. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's fun, dude It's just a matter of time before we're living in ex machina It's a matter of time and not that much time either. I think china is going to be the first They're so far ahead of us with so many different things

They're so far ahead of us with so many different things, so far ahead of us with electric cars, first of all, their automobile production is insane. Ford went over there and one of the guys from Ford came back and he said it was like humiliating to see how advanced these Chinese car manufacturers are. And they all incorporate already with AI. So they come like from the factory with AI integration built into them, but no American manufacturers have figured out how to do that yet, what's the right deal, who makes it. In China, everything is controlled by China. The fucking CCP runs everything.

Everything runs through the government. So they have this cross integration of the best tech. And they're putting it all to work and making the best fucking cars on earth. Their cars went from being, no one even mentioned Chinese cars 20 years ago. Do you understand how crazy that is, the shift of technology?

Literally no one used to mention Chinese cars. Japanese cars were huge. Japanese cars forever have been some of the most prized cars Because they made like this Nissan Skyline the GTR the Toyota Supras all these crazy sports cars the Acura NSX Japan made something not China and now all of a sudden out of nowhere China has the most sophisticated cars in the world What's the leading car brand in China? I don't know but their their factory I forget the name of the company their factories bigger than San Francisco

Jesus Christ if you see the fat when you fly over the factory their footage of the factory like you see how big it is Like holy shit. Yeah China's well you've been to Shanghai. I've never been no I've been to China a couple times now to do comedy. Whoa Which is careful bro, brother? I'm not kidding I was on stage and I was doing a show for mostly Americans that had moved over there But I was on stage. I did a joke about cocaine and the whole crowd they were laughing but they were going like They were being like no be careful buddy. Be careful I was like a week after I left not because of me was like, a week after I left, not because of me,

not a week after, six months after I left, not because of me, it was a series where they brought comics over, the government shut down the comedy club. Oh. Wild, wild, but you drive, so it's a weird juxtaposition of things there because their technology, they're so advanced

in so many ways, but then the society is completely cuffed, right? Right. But Shanghai, dude, when you drive into Shanghai at night, you drive over the longest bridge, I think, on earth that goes over water. It's a nutty bridge. It's wild.

You drive into that city at night, it looks like fucking Blade Runner, dude. It looks like fucking Blade Runner. I'm not exaggerating. It is the most majestic city I've ever seen in my life. And you're driving it at night, and it's this city that looks like it's in, like, the sea, because there's so much water. Pull up Shanghai at night.

I need to see it. Oh! Look at this shit, dude! Look at this! Whoa! Oh, my God. Look how lit up the bridge is. Look at this shit, dude Oh my god, look how lit up the bridges. Yeah, dude. It's pretty sick crazy That's pretty sick. It is crazy, dude Bridge that fucking bridge is so long. Yeah, that's crazy And that's not even the part I was talking about about there's a part when you're coming from the airport

Where you're like really coming in over the water and you can see the city from afar. I Would have no idea even how to search for it, but also probably no crime No, zero crime, right probably squeaky clean because if you litter they'll fucking kill you My my buddy that that brought me over there who was producing the comedy shows. I got pretty that is he told me He said you know how little crime there is here he goes you could literally leave your wallet filled with cash on a bar top and Leave the bar for two hours and come back your wallet will still sitting there. That's how scared everybody is to commit crime. Because they'll jump out of a fucking van

and throw a hood over your head. And you go in, no phone call. Dude, people go to jail in China for little shit, bar fight, whatever, you get arrested. People think they're dead, because nobody knows where they are for 30 days. Because they're in jail and you only get a phone call. That's fucking wild.

So my question is, China's advancing with AI beyond where we are. I wonder how they're gonna keep it out of the public's hands because they are not okay with the public having any access to anything like that. I think it's also similar to the internet, right? So they've locked down the internet in China. They've, you can't get outside internet

unless you have some crazy way of doing it and you can get in real trouble if you do it. You really get fucked. But other places where they developed the internet, like in America, I think if the government and intelligence agencies knew the impact, just the way it changed elections, just the way it changed people's ability to process propaganda and know what's real and not real. It changed everything. It changed public perception of mainstream media

and newspapers and outlets and journals. And we started to realize, like, no, they've been lying forever and ever and ever and ever and ever, they never told the truth, never. It was everything was some sort of a distortion. Everything was some sort of a narrative that they created from the fucking beginning of time. If they knew that that was gonna be the result of it,

I bet they would've nipped that shit in the butt in the early 90s. I bet they would've locked it down to like academic research and military application and United States government. They probably would've said, this is too, they had a time machine and they could see what the internet was gonna do. They probably would have never let it go live. They never

had an idea that this was gonna happen. I think that's real similar to AI. I mean we learned about... I don't know if they still teach you, but we learned about when I was a kid, we learned about yellow journalism and William Randolph Hearst, the biggest newspaper tycoon that ever lived up until a certain point. And it just makes me laugh that there are still people that actually know about all that and then still think corporate news is like, oh no, no, it's real. It's like, guys, this is literally history repeating, literally.

It's those people that still buy the New York Times in physical form. They want to go to the diner and drink coffee and read what the opinion piece is. And that's how they form their opinions. And it's like the problem is if you get indoctrinated into that world, like I used to deliver the New York Times when I was a kid. And I delivered the New York Times only because it was prestigious.

I thought it made me cooler to have a New York Times route. So I had a Boston Globe route. I had a Boston Herald route, and I had a few houses that I would do, like maybe, maybe a hundred that were New York Times. And New York Times is a giant pain in the ass because you had to drive all over. It wasn't like their next door neighbors were getting it. You like, you would drop one paper off, you might have to go five, six blocks to where the next guy is where you could drop the second paper off That's how important the New York Times was to people it was like the New York Times was not to be questioned Like that was what the real news is there's nothing like that anymore nothing no one has any Unless you're from that era unless you're still alive like you're a 70 year old guy. What the fuck are they doing?

Yeah, looking at this goddamn world don't you understand? This is getting all riled up in your living room, yelling into the abyss. Most people don't trust them anymore. Well that's why you also have YouTubers running circles around career journalists. Yeah. I'm just like this is, you know what I mean?

I was laughing with Tim Dillon about it. I'm like Tim I'm watching you run circles around guys that were career journalists. Yeah but he's a unique talent. Tim Dillon about it. I'm like, Tim, I'm watching you run circles around guys that were career journalists. Yeah, but he's a unique talent. Tim is a unique talent. He's amazing. He's unique in that he is a brilliant guy who started off his career selling subprime mortgages.

And then was a crazy drug addict and realized, I can't do this anymore. Quit drugs, started doing stand-up comedy and then Became the best ranter in the business. Yes. No one is better He puts on those fucking crazy glasses and he becomes like a totally different human being and he could say the most preposterous shit And you can't take it seriously because he's got those glasses on it's like like Elton John. Like, it's genius. He's opposite Superman. He puts the glasses on and becomes the superhero.

He was always great before the glasses, but there's something about the glasses era Tim Dillon that is the greatest Tim Dillon. He's such a brilliant guy. And I told him recently, I go, Tim, you're literally, arguably, my primary information source at this point. Like, I listen to you, you have a balanced opinion, you have facts, you're red.

I learn from listening to you. And I know I should probably have other sources, but I learn from him. I think he's brilliant, I really do. When CNN interviewed him, when that lady interviewed him, that was so amazing. It was so amazing. I think he's brilliant. I really don't CNN interviewed him when that lady interviewed him that Was so amazing. It was so amazing. It was like watching a small child Try to grapple with hoist Gracie

You know, I mean, yes, that's what it was like it was like, oh I see what you're doing here This is crazy. Yeah, do that. Why would you do that? And to his credit, to his credit, kind, yeah, fully charming through the whole thing. Never once was he like, Oh, give me a fucking Brit. No, right. Right. Just like, just like, well, no, that's not what it is. Right. When they started talking about you and he goes, do you think Joe is texting me right now because I'm doing this and he's mad? Or like, it was so funny, man. She was told, she said, that some comedian said

that if they got interviewed by CNN that I wouldn't let them work my club. Oh crazy that is. What? Oh crazy, they were worried. They were worried that I would be upset. I think that was what her wording was. I wanna know who that is.

But I don't think it's real. It's probably someone who didn't want to do the thing and said that was their excuse. I can't do it because if I do it, Ro will get mad at me. Why would I care? I couldn't care less. It's so fucking insane. It's so dumb. I mean, I thought it's perfect when a guy like Tim gets interviewed by CNN. It's perfect because you get to see the difference because this is a person who's actually thinking for themselves Versus a person who's commenting on something that they don't really understand and not doing it in a way where you're asking questions Really? You're sort of making your

You already have a vision of what it is in your head, and you're trying to get him to confirm that vision. Right, but you don't really know what you're talking about. And your version of it is like weird. It's like, it's alt-right, it's like the Manosphere. It's like, none of those things are real. Like, this is so stupid. Your version of this is so stupid. Yeah, I happen to be a man.

That's where it ends. It's so wild. And with what you're saying with Tim being interviewed on CNN is great, it truly is. Because guys, this is what we, my favorite thing, one of my favorite pieces of news history ever to watch are the Buckley-Gorvidal debates. Yes, yes

And then also the Nixon the Frost-Nixon debate conversations, whatever you want to call them Two people with polar opposite beliefs Extraordinarily well-read extraordinarily prepared talking for the most part calmly. There's the part in the Buckley thing. Yeah, it gets a little crazy Talking for the most part calmly, there's the part in the Buckley thing. Yeah, Buckley gets a little crazy. Yeah. Did she say, I'll punch your goddamn face off? Yeah, he goes, you'll stay socked or something like that. I forget what he said to him, but it was so dumb.

It was like super awkward. He lost his cool, and it was all so dumb. Gore Vidal calls him a Nazi, and then I think William F. Buckley says, if you call me a Nazi again, you little queer, I'm gonna punch your goddamn mouth off or something like that. Something's dumber than that. You're gonna stay socked or something like that. I'll suck you in your mouth and you'll stay socked. Like something corny like that. There's a great, I don't remember the documentary name. What's the documentary name Jamie? Best of enemies that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's really good because what happened was they essentially had a podcast They turned TV into YouTube and it was huge. Yeah, and they figured it out back then yeah, and they could never replicate it It's fucking great man when Hitchens, when Hitchens, Christopher Hitchens,

started to lean a little more conservative towards the end of his life than he had previously been. The interviews with him when he went on Mar, when Mar was more traditionally current liberal, whatever you wanna call it, than he is now. But hearing, seeing him and Mar sit and talk about the W. Bush Iraq war. Yeah.

And there's a great Hitchens moment where he says something in support of the war and the crowd booze and Hitchens turns and gives the crowd the finger and he goes, ah, you fucking sheep. But like even seeing like Ann Ann Coulter going on Bill Maher and the two of them talking and not agreeing right, but being very well prepared from both sides of the There's so little of that anymore man. Well as Maher still does it on his show. Yeah, but other than that Yeah, I mean CNN is doing a version of it now with Scott Jennings like Scott Jennings goes on CNN But the people that they have opposing them, no disrespect. A lot of them are just not people that you would take seriously.

Right. You listen to their opinions. They're so caught up in this ideology that they're proposing that they're so committed to it that they're not necessarily making logical sense. And that becomes a problem. And then they distort reality to fit logical sense. And that becomes a problem. And then they distort reality to fit their argument. And Scott points that stuff out all the time. So they do have a version of that on CNN. But it's not clever, right?

Which you really would, first of all, you have too many voices. This is my opinion. You don't have to listen to me. If you have five fucking people talking, the problem is none of them are getting you're not gonna get the Ultimately what they're capable of right because they're gonna be tripping over each other like even you and me talking Like I might talk too much and you have a thing that you want to say and you can't jump in but there's if there's Four more fucking people in the room good luck Yeah, so then everybody interrupts and everybody talks in like this rude way and everybody's playing gotcha. It's protect our parks

No, but um, I used to love doing and this was a Heavy heavy loaded show, but I used to really love doing red eye On Fox which was Gutfeld's first show And it was on at 2 a.m. So few people saw it but perfect three hosts Gutfeld who was the most conservative but not full-on conservative Bill Schultz who was the most liberal but not full-on liberal and Andy Levy who was the most sort of in between the two and It was great because you would hear something get hit from three different angles and it made for a great discussion and The show was meant to be funny, so it was always very light,

but the subject matter was real. But I was just like, man, even something like that, like, it's just so hard to find anymore. You know, I like Stewart's perspective most of the time, like, Jon Stewart's. Oh, he's the best. He's the best at that kind of a show, too. He's also the funniest.

Like, he's the best at making things hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, he's the best. He's the best at that kind of a show too. He's also the funniest. Like he's the best at making things hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, he's really good at it. That's not easy to do. Desk comedy, as they call it, is not. Yeah, he's the best at it. But also, it's like, that's sort of, he's been doing, like, when it comes to like political desk comedy, who defined it more than him on The Daily Show? And then when he came back to doing it like once a week, that once a week must have so many more viewers than the rest of the week. Yeah, he's a... Has to. I remember watching that first episode back and I was like, holy shit.

What's it even on now? Comedy Central. But they... What is Comedy Central on though? Is it on regular TV? Does it still exist? That's a great question. Yeah, people still have cable. I think it's like a lot of it is like Central on though? Is it on regular TV? Is it still exists a great question? Yeah, people still a lot of it is like apps now though, right? Well comedy. Yeah, no

You know what a lot of it is is like um Like sling TV like the cable apps you can buy Where it's like sling TV will be you know as an app and it's like if you pay 30 bucks a month you get 60 channels if you pay 60 you get 180 whatever the hell it is and it works it's cable TV but it's streamed so it's not cable literally but you can curate a little more what kind of channels you're getting and then it also has on-demand features and whatever but I think that's how most people you know YouTube has a version of that and I think Hulu might that's how most people you know YouTube has a version of that, and I think Hulu might That's how most people watch their quote cable television now, and so I think how much of it gets just streamed on YouTube

Well, this is the thing that someone was saying about Colbert You know Colbert getting fired right someone saying I could think Television networks have to come to grips with the fact that these late night talk show hosts are basically just YouTubers now. Because the reality is, the people that are going to see it, the people that are really going to see it, they're going to see it on YouTube. That's going to be a far larger audience than anywhere else,

especially if it's like a celebrity. You know, you're interviewing Scarlett Johansson in a clip, or a clip with some athlete. Those get way more views than the actual show itself. So essentially you've become a YouTuber. Well dude, when I, when I, this was years ago, when I first started doing some stuff with Comedy Central, I got this deal with them to do web shorts and they gave you X amount of dollars and they're like deliver five episodes of some kind of web thing and

like Quibi yeah kind of but shorter and cheaper right and and my first question was well where are you gonna put them we got to get them on YouTube because this is pre YouTubeYouTube channels. But it was obvious, YouTube is the thing. And they said, we can't. Viacom has a thing with YouTube. We cannot put any content of ours on YouTube. Now you can watch the entire episode of The Daily Show cut

up into five segments on YouTube. Of course. So you have to hop on board. YouTube is a runaway train. Like, you can't pretend you can exist outside of it. You just can't. You can on Netflix. Like, there's Netflix, and YouTube is above Netflix.

YouTube is even bigger than Netflix, because it's free. There's just too many people watching it. I use the app on my television, on like Apple TV. I use that app every night. I'm always watching it. I use the app on my television, unlike Apple TV, I use that app every night. I'm always watching things. I watch YouTube more than anything. Yeah. You learn so much shit. There's so many interesting things. Like if you curate a really good like if you have a bunch of subjects that you're really interested in. You could find more, like for me,

I'm a giant fan of ancient history. Huge fan of like, either unexplained things or things that they can explain. And you realize like how clever these people had to be. Like I was, I wanted to bring this up to you Jamie, because I made a screenshot of this because it looks completely insane. This was some device, a lock box that they built in Iran 800 years ago and this thing

is like so fucking complicated. Like a lock box being like what you'd put your keys in these days outside your building? But it's like no it's like a combination box that had like 800 different potential combinations. I know I saved it. God damn it You got it. That's it dog. Thank you eight hundred years ago. Someone built a lock box with four billion possible Combinations that's insane four billion. That's insane. Somebody made that eight hundred years ago. That's insane for a billion. That's insane. Somebody made that 800 years ago. That's insane. What? Fuck are you talking about? Yeah, is the devil's dick inside of that thing? Why wasn't that thing? Why was this not in the last Indiana Jones movie? That's a horror movie. That's a horror movie You open it up and the devil comes out. It's the fucking hellraiser box. Yeah, you solve the puzzle and yeah

That's a good one right Hellraiser box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You solve the puzzle and what's inside? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Bro, that's a good one, right? Hellraiser? Oh, especially the original. Oh yeah. Here's one that people don't bring up that's really good. Give it to me. Dark City. I love Dark City.

Dark City was good, dude. That was a weird movie. Creepy. Creepy. Kiefer Sutherland. Yeah. Yeah. And the big, tall, creepy alien Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and the big tall creepy alien, dude

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it looks like um, it almost aesthetically looks a little bit like alien like the suits They're all in it's it's very HR. I wonder if it was HR Giger would did the designs but it's very HR Giger Who you know, he did alien. Yep. Yep. Did he do the Predator? Did you do the Predator? I love I love Predator Yeah, yeah, okay first was my favorite action movie ever Did he do the Predator? Did he do the Predator? I love Predator. You don't like Predator? Yeah, yeah. The first one's okay. The first one's my favorite action movie ever. There's so many Predator movies.

It's like, it became Fast and the Furious. You can't keep up. There's a new one just out yesterday. No, there's a new Predator movie? It's like a prequel. Yeah. Oh boy. It's called Badlands.

Remember when they used to steal their head and their spinal column? Yeah. I was laughing with Metzger about the new one because it's another one where they go to the Predator planet and I go, Kurt, when you watch To Catch a Predator, you don't want to see him at home. You want to see this guy in the field. You like Prey though, Joe, right?

Yeah, Prey was good. Prey was good. Same director. Yes. What is this? This is the new one. This is like there's like some bot that helps him helps the predator train on the new planet shh she's the robot she plays is the is one of the androids from alien it's it's the same

so they're they're crossing the universes again yeah he's out here training and she's helping you can watch it yeah they go to like a hunters planet and then she and the predator align and I don't know It looks better than a lot of the other sequence. Pray was good. Pray was good. Yeah, that was an interesting way to do it Yeah, because it was predator one all over again in the Comanche's. Yeah. Yeah, pray was great You know, that would be so disappointing though if aliens came here just to hunt us How about help? How about help us reach your level of technological achievement?

The first movie is, wait, oh wait, oh shit. Oh wait, you said Hellraiser. Yeah. I was saying this earlier, that's why I love Event Horizon, because to me it's Hellraiser in space. Right. They open, and I love, I was thinking of this too, I love that Event Horizon describes hell as a dimension.

It's not like, no, it's this biblical thing and it's beneath the ground and whatever, it's like, no, it's a dimension, it's a portal. You know, a lot of people think that's what's going on with aliens. Right. They think that this was the biblical depictions of heaven and hell and angels and fairies and all these different things from the Bible. They think that this, what they're really talking about is just aliens. I don't doubt that.

And I think when we were talking earlier about hauntings and stuff like that I always wonder if that's got to do with astrophysics, you know how they'll say like dimensional There'll be dimensional rifts with different realities that slip. I always wonder like our ghosts just us getting the glimpse For a second at another dimension and we think it's a ghost because it's a very faint glimpse, but it's really And we think it's a ghost because it's a very faint glimpse, but it's really Physics there's a scientific explanation theoretically so maybe with ghosts a lot of times It's supposedly people die and they don't know they died and they're haunting a place like what if the experience of death Sometimes has a hiccup like you know sometimes you get like a bad video artifact Are you watching a movie fucking jerks and gets weird and it comes back to normal again. Like what if the code of life and death

in reality itself is not perfect? Right. Every now and then there's a little glitch and something sneaks through. Yeah. And you get to see like, ah! Some fucking pale dude who was chased by an ax murderer runs down the hallway.

Yeah, or it's like, and then when you talk about the simulation theory, if it is, sometimes you play a video game and there's a non-playable character and it's a glitch and they're all fucking like twitching in the corner, you know what I mean? You know there's a doll that's haunted, right? That this guy was just transporting the doll and he just had a heart attack and died? It's the Annabelle. Yeah, the Annabelle doll. Like, how many people have to die before you go,

hey, maybe... Maybe that... I mean, how many... Like, if you were a devil, a demon that... you took over a doll... and you possessed this doll, and then you ruin people's lives. You don't ruin them every day. No. You wait.

You wait. You give a little fucking reasonable suspicion, a little doubt. Yeah. Give people time to like, come on guys. That's no way it's the doll. It's the game. There's no way it's the doll. Dommer didn't murder every day.

Scary dolls. Spaces it out. Chucky, when Chucky comes alive. Ch alive Chucky rules Chucky ruled talk about a guy that's fun to Stumbled into a pile of shit Brad Durif the voice. Yeah, right 30 years ago They're like you want to do this doll voice is like sure Like I have six mansions from the doll But those movies are scary as fuck man like That's hilarious. But those movies are scary as fuck, man. Like, there was an early Twilight Zone, right? Where the doll took over? The puppet?

The guy had a puppet? The puppet started taking over? Well, okay, there's two. Twilight Zone is my favorite TV show of all time. One of the greatest shows of ever. And by the way, how many different spectacular premises did they come up with? It's incredible. The show is incredible. Rod Serling is the greatest, in my opinion, television writer. Yeah, that's the one.

They did two with Mary and it, or with the puppets, I mean. Oh yeah, look at the other one up in the left corner. Yeah. And then they did one, that's the better of the two. This one here, the dummy. That one's creepy as fuck. Then they- Caesar and me.

That one, yeah, yeah. The dummy, that's where he turns into the dummy at the end. See the picture? It's so creepy. But then there's another one with a little girl where she gets a doll with Telly Savalas is her dad and he's a dick and the doll keeps telling Telly Savalas it's gonna kill him.

Yeah, there it is, the living doll, that's what it's called. They just figured out a way to make things so creepy. I don't know. Such a good... Remember the one episode, the Serve Man? Yeah. And the people realized at the end, oh my God, it's a cookbook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's great.

You ever see The Obsolete Man? You ever see that episode? No. Which one's that? Burgess Meredith. Oh, is that the one where his glasses break at the end of it. No, that's a matter I think that's got a matter of time the obsolete man the obsolete man He he's determined obsolete in a future dystopian society because he's a librarian and Books have been banned

And when you get to term and obsolete you get to choose your method of execution and that it be televised and then it goes from there and it is a fucking tour de force from Burgess Meredith man. Do you ever see a game of pool? You're talking about the pool halls. Jonathan Winters. Yeah and Jack Klugman. Yes.

Yeah. He wants to be the best in the curses that he's the best and has to play everybody until the end of time until somebody Can beat him says to wait in this pool? Yeah, someone has to beat him before he can get to leave. Oh, it's so good, dude. It's so good I love all that great. How about the one when William Shackner is like the little fortune-telling machine? Yeah, Nick of time It's called yeah, and they become they're like trapped by the machine. They fucked up when they got rid of that ride. So like, the Guardian of the Galaxy ride is fucking awesome.

It's really cool at Disneyland, but it used to be the Twilight Zone. Tower of Terror. Yeah, Tower of Terror was the Twilight Zone. It was Rod Sterling. That ride was awesome. That ride was awesome. It's still awesome Guardians of the Galaxy It is awesome, but it's it's just but I know what it used to be like why'd you do that?

Why didn't you just make a new Guardian of the Galaxy ride? But wait is the Guardian if the Guardians isn't still the freefall right? Oh it is Tower of Terror. Yeah, it's Tower of Terror It's a Guardians of the Galaxy right now. So how How do so how what happens now when you go in it's just freefall. There's a bunch of the Galaxy ride now. So how, what happens now when you go in? It's just. Free fall, there's a bunch of shit going on. You watch some scenes, you get freaked out. Yeah, you watch Chris Pratt.

Like for real, that's what happens. It's like they incorporated Guardians of the Galaxy into an already amazing ride. Like they didn't have to do that. I kind of love the classic one. But I guess it's like a money saving thing. But also too to the freefall makes sense with the Twilight Zone. I know doesn't make sense with Guardians The greatest thing they did at Disneyland though is the Star Wars stuff the star wars ride is fucking crazy I still haven't seen it. It's so cool. It's awesome cool

Yeah, you're in like a vehicle and you're moving around on tracks and a bunch of shit is happening and Which by the way lasers somehow another more advanced than bullets yet You can see him coming you fucking tuck out of the way of them There's a dumbest weapon of all time like bullets are way faster than these stupid lasers You can literally see him chew chewoo choo, choo choo choo. People like running away. Darth Vader's like knocking them away with a sword. Like imagine if you did that with bullets,

you'd be like, shut up, how you seen those bullets? Well, we just, laser blasters slow as fuck. Not even the speed of light. They're dumb. The movie would suck if it was bullets. It's more fun to see them. But imagine, they made light not the speed of light like what? Why'd you do that?

You might have just ruined Star Wars for me. It's done There's a lot of dumb shit in Star Wars, but it's like it's fun They only close the tower terror the California one I think it's still opening in Florida, and maybe there's a version also in Paris. Oh, so Disney World. That's right I've wondered but the Disney World one, no disrespect, not as good. I did that one. It's not quite as crazy.

I think I've only been on the Disney World one. Disney World has the best ride in the world though. The Avatar ride. I never did it. What's it called, right, Flights of Passage? Flights of Passage. It's a VR game. You get on a motorcycle and you put the fucking helmet on and it sinks you up to the dragon and you're flying on top of the dragon dude that's cool dude dude it's the shit that's cool it's cool

I'll tell you the best ride I was ever on is the spider-man ride at Universal Studios that's a great ride. That's a great ride. When he jumps onto your car, when your car falls off the skyscraper and it gets caught by the web, that ride's fuckin' sick. That ride is nuts. Universal's got some banger rides.

Oh yeah, do you ever go to Halloween Haunt Nights? Oh yeah, for sure. Scary as shit. Yeah. Those Haunted Houses are scary as shit. Yeah, those haunted houses are scary as shit They did one with walking dead. They had a walk nice dead house fucking terror. They had like real actors in there There's a new permanent one in Vegas opening if it's not open already It's opening very soon like it's just open all year round. They had the greatest Hollywood Horror Nights

They had the greatest fucking scare Halloween Horror Nights that I've ever experienced in a haunted house. It was the Exorcist House, or whatever you want to call it. And you went through and you had to walk through Regan's bedroom and there's this fucking doll on the bed and it's like head is spinning around and there's like these animatronic priests hitting it with fucking holy... The scene was so fucking scary because you're so close to it, even though you know, it was robots and

everybody's screaming and shit and then you keep going through the maze and they circle you back and Everybody is like I don't want to go through that fucking room again But they're gonna make us and you go through the room again and you're like, alright, alright, alright, alright and then all of a sudden, Reagan jumps off the bed because they replaced the robot with a real person and you didn't know. And dude. Like dude, it was the most scared I ever was in my life.

People have to see that movie in the context of what the time was like when it was released. Yeah. That's why, like when it was released. Yeah. That's, that's why I remember when I was a kid, people were absolutely terrified of that movie, like more so than any movie I think of all time, because other movies were horror movies, but they didn't deal with something that people actually believe could be true, which is like demonic possession. Yeah.

Can you imagine if you were a fucking priest and you know, they trained you how to do exorcists like a bunch of fucking schizophrenics. Yeah. Off their meds, you know. Yeah. Fine. Yeah. And then one day, one day you go to do one and it's a real one.

And he tells you about your mother. Yeah. He's telling you things that happen to you when you're a little boy So it knows that you know, you know, yeah, I mean dude that that whole story arc That father Charis Charis, I think is the younger one. Yeah, it's cares That he's having a crisis of faith. Yeah He's already having a crisis of faith Then on top of it, he's presented this case, and he's gotta do all the skeptic. How many of these little girls saying

your mother sucks cocks in hell? And his mother dies, he has to kill? When I saw that movie, I was dying laughing the entire time. I saw it way too late in life, and it couldn't have been funnier. Thing is, I saw it when it came out, and I was a little kid.

Jesus Christ. What year did that movie come out, Jamie? 2050, I think it was in the 70s. out, Jamie? At 20, 50, I think it was the 70s. Four, seven years. Yeah, it's like 73, right? 73. So I was six. Pissed herself, so funny. No exorcist movie has gone as graphic as that since.

Really? Well, how about when she stabbed herself in the pussy with a cross? Yes, it's brutal, dude. And making those crazy liquid slicing noises, like, chk, chk, chk. It's brutal, dude. And they show that she's bleeding from it. Like, chh-chh-chh-chh-chh-chh-chh-chh-chh. It's brutal, dude. And they show that she's bleeding from it.

Like, it's fucking nuts. And there was nothing like that before then. This is what you have to understand. In the context of that time, there was no film that was that crazy. And I'm telling you, there's no exorcism movie since that comes even kind of close. That did open up the door to that kind of genre though.

Whew. But dude, the... how fucking cool is it that in the climax, in the third act of the movie, when Karis finally realizes, like, this fucking bitch is possessed, we gotta do something. And they're like, we're gonna call in an exorcist. And then it's fucking Max von Siedel And his whole backstory is like he encountered this demon once before and he comes in like fucking Obi-Wan

Yeah, all gray hair like and he's like the guy coming in like you don't know what the fuck you're up against right now Like it's just it's hero shit. It's awesome. It's so fucking awesome like Willem Dafoe's character in Nosferatu Yes, yeah, yeah, like you don't know what the fuck you just encountered. Yeah. Yeah, those kind of movies are fun, man Oh, yeah Oh, is this the bride that's this is like a dark hall. Okay. Yeah this It looks terrible right now, but trust me it was scary You have to be there. Yeah, it's one of those you got to be there moments when someone tells you a funny joke Someone said a dinner table like okay

Yeah, how'd I be there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah trying to describe a haunted house is like trying to reiterate one of Metzger's rants It's like there's you got to be there. Yeah Trying to describe a haunted house is like trying to reiterate one of Metzger's rants. It's like there's so many- Yeah, you gotta be there. Yeah. Metzger, Metzger is going, he goes so hard on Twitter. Thank God Elon Musk bought Twitter, because Metzger would be in jail if he lived in the UK.

If he tried to, if he posted on Facebook in the UK, they would have locked him up years ago. He can't travel internationally He'll come get him He was going off about something on the on the right side of the green room the other night and I was sitting on The left side with Derek Post in it and in a son And I go I just turned them I go if Kurt was in Raiders of the Lost Ark when they opened the Ark of the End His face wouldn't melt

the arc of the end his face wouldn't melt. I fucking knew it! He would have told you it was going to happen beforehand. He tells me about random, what is this, some alien? I don't know, fucking alien thing. You think this alien corpse is real? I don't know. Look at them cakes though. Bro, did you see when he tweeted Netanyahu? I was like, Jesus Christ. What'd he say? Some horrific shit that I don't want to repeat. Okay. But he goes so hard. He goes so hard. He's an animal.

Oh my God, yeah. He's so funny. He's so funny. Dude, I've told this story many times about you and Kurt, and I laughed. It made me laugh so hard, dude. He was going off about something, dude, and I laughed, it made me laugh so hard, dude. He was going off about something, dude, and you were just standing there quiet. And you walked over, and you just go, Kurt, I hesitate to even ask you the question,

because you knew you were gonna rip the kid. I laugh so hard, I go, Rogan talks to people for four hours a day, three times a week, and Kurt's the guy that's, he's like, Kurt, I don't even want to get you started right now. Like, you know how to talk to anybody for lengths of time, you know what I mean? I just wanted a simple yes or no answer to something. Is this real? Oh, you don't know? It was so funny, dude. And he's a giant dude, so he's like looming over you

with his crazy eyebrows. Yeah. Like, you don't know? Yeah. Do you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll hit you with anything. Yeah.

You'll be like, I saw the new Fast and Furious. You'll be like, you know what's up with that, though, right? You know the story. You know, oh, jeez. It's all about the Masons. I talked to Noonan. He was so sweaty coming off stage. I was like, I should have given him a minute.

He was just dripping sweat, ranting at me. I'm like, take a minute. Breathe. Breathe. Breathe. You're fine. No, no. When you catch coming off stage, I was like, I should have given him a minute. He's just dripping sweat, ranting at me. I'm like, take a minute, breathe. No, no, when you catch him off stage, you get him at a nine. He's ready to go. He's warmed up. I've seen that man, I'm not exaggerating, roll and smoke a full joint to the head in the time it would take the average person to smoke half a cigarette. Like, roll it, would take the average person to smoke half a cigarette. Like roll it, four hits, down, gone, boom. Like just, just, he's operating on a different plane. Yeah, he's in another world. He's an odd duck. He's another dude. Like you know Ari's an original, find yourself another Metzger. Like literally impossible. Super informed, super

smart, insane, knows every, and by the way, didn't used to be like this with all the conspiracies. Like literally impossible. Yeah, super informed super smart insane Yeah knows every fun and by the way didn't used to be like this with all the conspiracies Yeah, he started media always knew stuff about things You don't have weird conversations about stuff like weird facts, but when he started working with Jimmy So he started doing Jimmy Dorshow and so from then on he got exposed to so many things like cracked him Like he's like, oh my god, like it's all fake. Everything's bullshit. There's like multi-levels of fakeness built into this.

Yes. Jimmy's an interesting guy, because Jimmy was staunchly left, liberal, I don't know, the terms, people say they all mean different things. But he's an interesting guy, because he certainly, I guess, moved, what would you call it, libertarian now? Or... I just think he thinks that the left, as it existed when he was a part of it, disappeared. Yes.

It moved to a far left position that is unrecognizable. And a lot of people have that same feeling, that they felt politically homeless. Eric Weinstein talked about that. I've talked about it. You feel politically homeless Because there's things you support on one side you don't support on the other side like what did we do? What what is this like what why is this the part of it? And you just get to the point we like okay

I can't be on either one of your fucking teams because you guys are both at the far ends completely insane Yeah, far ends of the left and the far ends of the right, completely insane. Yeah, yeah. It's an interesting thing. It's an interesting thing. It's, I never, once ethics, pardon me, once ethics became economized, I knew there was, I was like, we got a real problem on our hands now. Like when people started, because I was living in LA at the time,

and when you started seeing like, you'd be in a job interview just to get a writing gig on a TV show, whatever it was, and you started to see how your social media played into it. You started to see how your takes played into it. Hey, I saw you in a little weird dust up with this guy on the internet. What was that all about?

You know what I mean? Like, it's like ethics are being economized, your morality is being monetized, and once people start to do that, that separation of church and livelihood is no longer there, and the politics becomes the deity or the dogma, whatever you want to call it, and it's just, oh my God, man's it's not a good scene and I never thought you'd see the day where The the where the extremists are The loudest of the voices. I know a person who works at a firm And they have to put their pronouns in every email they send you have to they have to

It's company policy. But what? Company policy, he, him. But what if you say that's... Hey. Hey. What if you say that's my business and I don't want to share that?

You can't. That's why. You have to put it in there. Because they want you to comply. It's literally Orwellian. It's not, it should be like super obvious. It was obvious for all of time. If your name was Deborah McGee,

and you had long hair, and you wore a dress, and you were obviously a woman, you were a she. And the fact that, that is, you don't want to assume someone's gender now you have to be careful. I'm sorry What are your pronouns? What kind of a stupid fucking nothing question is that well also to to me? It's like if you said to me Joe If you bring up my pronouns you are to refer to me as a cat man I would go okay, Joe you like you're my buddy. No you're saying that like it's a joke. There was a woman in Oregon

There was a woman in Oregon who wrecked she she identified as a turtle and she was a part of the mental health board Yeah, you know about this lady. No. I'm just I thought of She was talking about her pronouns and one of her pronouns was turtle She was a turtle. Yeah, there was I saw the news clip of the there was an overweight Chinese middle-aged man Who identified as a 12 year old white girl? Oh nice? So you can shower with them it was not nothing creepy about that at all but my point is this is like if I said if you if you said that to me and is this is like if I said if you if you said that to me and I slipped and I said he and you go Joe please cat man I go I'm sorry buddy it's so not meant to

insult you it's just like all right dude whatever you want it's fine but it's when it becomes this thing of like it's like it is the worst crime you could ever commit against a human being and it's like you're dehumanizing me by using my dead name Can we just take a Just can we just have a discussion? It's okay like you know there will be no discussions Compliance will be complete the total compliance will be required if you want to get your social credit score Do you know what's interesting I goog Googled Bruce Jenner the other day. That's not interesting. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I was watching, this is a rabbit hole, I was watching Dennis Miller, I was watching an old Dennis Miller thing, and he had a joke where he's like, when the fuck did Bruce Jenner

become the lady from the Beverly Hillbillies? Because it was when Bruce Jenner, like, his face was starting to get pulled back and shit and you didn't know what was going on. And it just made me laugh and I looked up the lady and then I was like, wait, yeah, what did he look like then? And I Googled Bruce Jenner and I was like I wonder if there will be results for Bruce Jenner or if it's going to say you're dead no yeah Caitlin and it did come up and everything but I was I was like too too popular too famous as a man

right one the gold medal was on top of the Wheaties box right too famous right you can't erase that was on Keeping Up With Wheaties box. Right. Too famous. You can't erase that. Was on Keeping Up With the Kardashians as a male for who knows how many episodes. But also too, like I have trans friends. I would never out of respect to them say, hey, I'm going to bring up your old shit. But to say we can't talk that Bruce Jenner existed That's when it becomes nuts to me. It's our wellian. Yeah, it's it's it's all cult stuff. That's what it is

Yeah, it's just people it it's another version of it It's another undefined cult that is constantly moving the boundaries of what's acceptable The we're living in it's exhausting. I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted with everything I'm exhausted. It's funny when uh When Trump got shot I was at my buddy's house. We're in the pool hanging out And he had a TV out there and we came on we were like holy shit Fucking wild right yeah, and there were people in the pool that were Trump supporters There were people in the pool that don't like Trump there was all kinds of people there So so a discussion broke out. This was a massive event. It was very interesting and

I Said to my friend I go That we're living in insanity right now. This is insanity what we're living in it's too much I'm having a hard time swallowing it every day. And he said, yeah, but every generation says that. And is this any crazier than the 60s? Where do I go? Let me tell you why it's crazier than the 60s.

Because you can't even talk about Star Wars anymore without it devolving into an argument about a trans global conspiracy of some. You know what I mean? I'm like, we don't have the the escape conversations anymore, right? Everything has an agenda everything is tribalistic. Everything's a conspiracy fucking cartoons You can't talk about anything anymore, and it's like that's I'm exhausted. I find myself rewatching

news radio sitcoms from the 90s things that just remind me of a simpler time Jesus Christ man, so thank you for news radio Tell everybody about your specials bring this baby home. Thank you, brother. It's called. I never promised you a rose garden It's on my youtube Rose Garden. It's on my YouTube. I never promised you a Rose Garden. It's on my YouTube, which is at Jodo Rosa Comedy. Please watch it. It's off to an amazing start. Thank you to everybody. I wrote it, I performed it, I directed it. Where did you perform? This theater is the Colonial Theater in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania, near where I have a house in, Pennsylvania It's where I'm from and that theater is the theater the original blob was shot at Yeah

Yeah, so that's awesome, dude, this is the hardest I've ever worked ever on anything in my life I'm the most proud of it of anything I've ever done and and it's Thank you to the comedy community. Thank you to the mothership Thank you to all the clubs everybody that everybody has been so supportive. It's been beautiful Really appreciate you having me do my pleasure brother. This was awesome. Good to talk to you Yeah, this was fun. Good to have a little sit down one-on-one time time Yeah, man, it's nice. It's nice. All right, it was beautiful. Um, it's available Anything else tour dates joderosa.com tour dates joderosa.com. I'll be in Rhode Island next in August And then you doing in Rhode Island comedy connection. I love that place. Yeah bank. Yeah first and second and then I got a

you know other dates throughout the fall. Jodorosa.com and if you're in New York, go get a sandwich, Jolly Roses. Appreciate you guys. All right. Bye, everybody.