The Joe Rogan Experience - #2356 - Mike Vecchione

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

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It's just a consistent thing. You have to do it every day. We're talking about decompressing the back, ladies and gentlemen. Lower back pain. Another thing you can do without a machine is just Bend your knees just bend slightly grab your arms like this and just like And relax your back and it'll pop your back that far too. They know how to pop a upper back That's where you have when you get the persons grab you and then hold you and then and then you can hear it crack I don't know how you know I don't know how good it is kind of right, but the lower back is uh

When I played football I played contact football and we used to go to Physicals you had to get a physical and it was just a gigantic room and you go from doctor to doctor so everybody could do it at one time and I remember I laid down and the doctor grabbed my leg and He was trying to get range of motion and He got it like three-quarters of the way up and it stopped and he said to me You're gonna have lower back pain when you're older and that's exactly what happened You can avoid it predicted it. There's there's a lot of ways to avoid it You know people just accept it, but what what you're telling me right there?

With not being able to get your leg up, that's a hamstring issue. So one thing, hamstrings and quads and glutes, all the tightness in those areas will absolutely affect your back. Because any time you have restricted range of motion and you're really tight, everything else is tight too. So everything is kind of pulled down.

And you have to figure out a way to lengthen that shit out and There's a lot of different stretches you could do but you definitely should be doing them Nobody likes a stretch sucks. Everybody hates sucks But if you don't do it, you're gonna go to a doctor and they're gonna want to cut you open Yeah, and don't do that because there's other ways around that if you're listening to this and you got a bulging disk in your back There's ways around it folks. There's decompression. There's other ways around that if you're listening to this you got a bulging disk in your back. There's ways around it folks There's decompression. There's stem cells. There's a thing that I did a long time ago in California called What is that shit called that Peyton Manning did and Regenitine thank you escape my mind. It's early

Regenitine is where they it's like platelet rich plasma, but it's a more sophisticated version of it. They first started pioneering it in Germany, you just have to go to Germany to get it, but now you get it in America. But... Stop over in Turkey for the hair, and then hit Germany for your lower back. You don't have to do it, it's America now.

What is the name of the place? Life, life cycle medicine in Santa Monica? What is the name of the place? Why am I not remembering? My brain has way too much extra information and my hard drop is so full Lifespan lifespan medicine in Santa Monica is where I had it done. It was amazing My my neck was fucked up for like almost a year and I was going to chiropractors who are all goofy They're all it's all nonsense. And then I finally went to this guy, Dr. Ben Ruhi there, and he said, you have a bulging disc in your neck.

We got an MRI. He's like, this is what we could do. Spinal decompression, and we'll use Regenekine. It's very potent anti-inflammatory. It'll relax all the muscles around that area, and slowly it'll go back, and it went back. Now it's hard to understand. But you had to go in for several treatments though?

The Regenerkeine, no. I think it was one treatment. Oh wow, that's great. One treatment did it. I did go back again to get another treatment, but that's just because I do jujitsu. And jujitsu is you're just always getting your neck ranked on. I went back to get like mid back.

I think I did one more on my neck too, but it was, I might not have, but it was more like Maintenance than anything who the big issue had been resolved and then I started strengthening Because I never really did anything to strengthen my lower back My neck any of those things while I was training jujitsu in the beginning. I I just worked out normal stuff I'd lifted weights, right? But doesn't deadlifting and I don't know if you did these things,

but deadlifting and squatting, I squat lightweight without a belt. Doesn't that automatically strengthen your lower back? I thought it automatically kind of did. Well, I mean, it does a little bit, but it depends on what we- But not the focused exercises that we were just doing. Right, those are just lower back.

Squats are really for your legs, but it does your lower back, but also it gets compressed because you're carrying weight in your shoulders Yeah, but I do belt squats, which I really like so what belt squats are it's a different machine There's another one out there too That was created by Louie Simmons from Westside barbell and it's a strap that goes around you and it goes to a cable that Goes in between your legs and the weight is pulling down from your hips, right? So it's not on your shoulders compressing your spine, which is great if you have a back issue

Yeah, yeah, so you can squat a lot of weight, but all of it is like resting on your hips Wow, that's awesome. I can definitely feel the difference in my strength when I squat and when I don't like I'm a guy who needs To lift weights I was I wrestled with guys and played football with guys who like were naturally just shredded and did not need It was annoying to them to lift weights not that it didn't benefit them But they were just very muscle bound and they kind of didn't need it. I need to lift weights Well, everybody needs it if you're competing against elite guys. That's yeah. Yeah. Yeah, obviously, but I mean to a certain level Right, they're doing it and you know that you have great genetics and they have great Right and they're doing strength and conditioning

and you're not, they're gonna win. Or at least they're gonna have at least some kind of an advantage. But I tell everybody, like my age, I'm 52, it's like do a circuit, do a 40 minute wait circuit, do three sets of, just go, you gotta do it. Because I think it affects your, I'm not an expert on this or anything, but I think it affects your testosterone. I can feel. Oh, it definitely does. you gotta do it. Because I think it affects your, I'm not an expert on this or anything,

but I think it affects your testosterone. I can feel. Oh, it definitely does. I can feel it. Yeah, definitely. Lifting weights definitely affects your testosterone. Here's another way to boost your testosterone. Cold plunge before you lift weights.

That's a big one. Or if you don't have that, cold shower in the winter. It's great. You do that before you lift weights. Before any kind of training actually, you know Because there's been some negative press lately on cold punches and hypertrophy But it's all about doing it right after lifting weights, which is you're never supposed to do that Anyway, you're not supposed to the whole idea about lifting weights is you're breaking your tissue down

The inflammation helps you rise your body heals and then it gets stronger and you don't want to like, the inflammation helps you, because your body heals and then it gets stronger. And you don't want to kill the inflammation right after you work out. And the cold is killing the inflammation, right? Exactly, exactly. So I do that. I do that. We just moved into a building, gym in the building. Oh nice.

And that's great. Yeah, we just bought a condo in New York, right in time for socialism. Nice, right in time for the fucking communist takeover. Good job. Right in time for all of us to have to share. Yeah, you're gonna have to share. You're gonna have to have immigrants move into your apartment.

I mean, I just did, I just, 20 years living with roommates, and I just finally got married and bought a place. This is the first time you've had your own place? Yes. Whoa. Yeah. Oh my god. Well, no, no, no, not the first time I had my own place.

We were renting, we rented for four years. Oh, okay. But this is the first time I've have my own place. We were renting we rented for four years But this is the first time I've bought something okay, so I bought property in I don't know if that's a good idea or not buying things I go back and forth really yeah, it's like I Just was told diversify problems, and yeah, yeah, you know yeah depends on where you are New York City to me seems like a fucking time bomb It's like there's a whole bunch of crazy people with a bunch of wacky ideas and they're getting voted in Yeah, like good luck with all that and your options are them or the guy from fucking guardian angels Curtis Lee what? What if he comes into office and he goes everybody wears berets now listen

It's a beret city now have the beret Yeah The things he's saying makes sense to the office and he goes, everybody wears berets now. It's a beret city now. Listen, if he didn't have the beret, the things he's saying make sense. Like a lot of the stuff he says makes sense. If he didn't have the beret, I'd be like, maybe I'll take it a little more seriously. Yeah.

You know what I mean? What are you gonna do, paint? Yeah. Where's your cigarette holder? No, I love it. I love the Guardian Angel because they don't have weapons, right? Isn't that their whole thing?

I came after that whole Initiative, but I do like the idea. I do like the idea of someone out there to protect the public other than cops Forever I remember in I guess it was the 90s I was in New York City, and I was in traffic with my girlfriend at the time She was sitting next to me, and we're looking at this guardian angel guy I go why you have to wear the hat like what is with the hat like why do they make them wear that fucking hat? And her and I are just laughing and the guy looks at me and goes fuck you like with a real angry Hey, that's not serving and protecting sir If you don't think that hat is funny the fuck you like what if I say no fuck you and I get out and I want

To fight yes, come on. This is so stupid. You're not you're not helping This is not good. I would hate to lose to a guy with that hat. Yeah, probably you're not going to Imagine anybody that really knows how to fight is not gonna put that fucking hat on you're gonna be like, what am I doing? but those guys like I think that what they did is if there was a Disturbance or something or somebody was acting nuts on the subway. They would just surround him surround the person Well, that's good. Yeah, as long as the guy has another gun. Yeah, or a fucking samurai sword or whatever Wasn't or a tiger in his apartment Yeah, there's a bunch. Yeah. Yeah, that was that was a big thing for a while guys having just wild wildlife in their apartment Tigers and crocodiles. Yeah

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John Gotti jr. Was brought to trial for trying to kill him. Oh boy. Yeah for saying stuff about his dad. Oh, Jesus. Oh Boy, he got I think it was just a hung Jerry five times and he never got convicted of it But yeah, that was a that was a thing. I remember that Yeah, and we tried to shoot him in a cab. Well, yeah caps are bad enough Those John Gotti jr. Yeah, you know John Gotti the third's an MMA fighter. Yeah, he's fucking good. He's good. Yeah good Yeah, yeah, he's real good. He fought Floyd Mayweather. I saw that was crazy. I think they fought twice Admitted he and the Guardian Angels faked heroic subway rescues for publicity Okay, so in 1992

Sleewood admitted he and the Guardian Angels faked heroic subway rescues for publicity He also admitted to having false claimed falsely that three off duty transit police officers had kidnapped him. So he explained at that time some jail time, right? Should be right? I mean, if you're saying off duty transit police officers, so you're accusing police officers of a crime. So what are you what you're doing is not just lying, but you're also putting the police officers in jeopardy

because you're falsely claiming that these guys are outlaws. He claimed that the time stunts were intended to underscore the dangers of the subways. Like, who doesn't know about the dangers of the subways? Yeah, just let the natural stuff play out for what it is. Literally ridden the subway three times in my fucking life. Keep that up, Jamie. And I'm very aware of the dangers of the

Fucking subways yeah when the guardian angels first came trolling streets and subways New York City was experiencing some of the highest crime rates I feel the incidents we staged led to some improvements. He said oh boy oh boy Jesse Smollett Yeah, that's for Jesse. That's a Jesse Smollett BJ before Jesse That guy stuck to his story even the guys who beat up Person even then when they flipped even after they flipped he stuck to his story. Is that an actor? Is that an actor bro? He showed up And had the noose still around his neck

Doesn't happens you let actors write the scripts. You know what I mean? Like, you ever heard when she was on trial with Depp? Like, kinda similar. Like, when you let the actors write the script, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. What happened now? Come on. What is this? Netflix sets Jesse Smollett documentary with new evidence. Alleged hate crime hoax might be a true story. Oh, he never backtracked on it.

This is real. Who's funding this? This is new. I just googled his name, and the last two days, there's stories about this doc. It could just be a particular documentary. Bro, whoever his PR team is, congratulations. You guys rule.

It should be at least a documentary. Yeah. What do you got there? A little tiny cigars? Yeah, little tiny ones. You got a big one, too. Yeah. You're mixing it up. I'm mixing it up. I'm making you know you're not sure what you want

No, this is before I go on usually. I just don't want to I don't want to take the commitment to this Oh, I feel you know them little ones. I like the ones Ron white great those they're fantastic Monte Christos They're good because like if you don't want to commit to a full cigar I write we're going station But Ron White and hails these bitches Does he really? And you're gonna tell me he it cares his lower back Well he plays golf so he must have a good lower back You know by the way swing speaking of which I watched happy Gilmore to last night. It's fucking hilarious. I like it, too

I just watched it. I love Adam Sandler I love those movies because you know exactly what you're gonna get they're always fun like critics hate them But that just it's more information that you get the critics suck. I love them, too They're great. I think he's great fucking I think he great He's great and what I love about him is he doesn't care and he just keeps moving with what he wants to do with his people He has a group of people that he loves yep, and then are creative and he just keeps going with what he wants to do with his people. He has a group of people that he loves and that are creative and he just keeps going with it. And I think he's very funny anyway.

He's very funny. I saw his stand up live in Vegas once. Him and Rob Schneider, they killed. It was really fun. I hadn't seen Adam in forever. I hadn't seen him since we did Zookeeper together, which was like, it had to be like 15 years ago, somewhere around then so he's got the

same people that he always works with he's got the same directors he always works with he's always working with Spade and Schneider all the guys he knows so it's like real fun on the set everybody's friendly yeah same as Kevin James he doesn't Kevin James rocks at the exact same way. I like go to his set. Everybody's friendly Everybody's having fun. There's no weird fucking ego bullshit. All right actors. Everybody's pals They're all pals. They'll write for each other So they're all sitting around like the when they're when we're doing table reads everyone's laughing cracking jokes or adding lines Yeah, yeah good time. Yeah good times and that's how you make the best stuff It's the best when it's loose and playful and fun and everybody can be creative and there's no weirdness

They're enemy of comedy is tension always like the the tension you have between like co-workers like yeah This is like you know Phil Hartman told me the Saturday live like the most stressful thing that he ever did in his life Because there was so much tension because they would everybody behind the scene was backstabbing everybody that's nuts and Brewer says the same thing yeah you ever heard Brewer talk about? Brewer's a good dude man he's the best he's really good guy I was on the road with him a little bit he's a really good guy and and very like the quintessential theater act like you see you see him in a theater I go watch him after I was done with my set and it's like he fills the space, you know what I mean?

He's a great theater actor. Right, he's a big act. Yes. Right, like the big stage is actually great for his act, but he murders in clubs, he'll murder in an arena, he's an old school, he's a great person too. Like what I love about him is like, he had no desire to be like super famous, no desire,

all he wanted to do was kill. All he wanted to do is kill all he does be great at comedy and just live in his own world He lived in Jersey and a suburban community just chilled Yeah, didn't need fancy cars or any bullshit. It's just just loves being funny. I love that I love the the idea of just like at waking up every day and it's like, how can I be better? Yeah, I love that. You know who's the rest of that? I every day and it's like, how can I be better? Yeah. I love that. You know who's the rest of that? Attell.

Attell. And maybe the best comic alive. Yeah, yeah. And maybe one of the, I mean, in my book, top five, top six of all time. Yes, for sure. And he's effortless. Yes.

Effortless. But he's always working on his act, which is kind of torturous. It's a torturous thing. If you're always tinkering, you're always working on it, and it's like, it's never done. It's always like you're in the mix. You're like, I don't know.

And it's like, I get it. But if that's what you love to do, then it's great. It's like you have to teach yourself that that's what you love to do. Instead of like, God, I can't wait till this hour's ready. Like right now, I really only have like 40 minutes. Maybe I could do 45. I could do like 45 minutes, which is like a year after my special but once you get it down

What's this? It's sloppy. This is some shit in there They like need some work, but that you have like even if you're gonna go back and make corrections on it You have the scaffolding for it, which is very important. It's like the scaffolding It's like that kind of hard stuff is done. Not that new stuff won't come in it might still come in but you have the scaffolding for it now now That's exactly how I describe it. I'm so glad you said it that way. That's what all joke structure It's like scaffolding and then inside you put the funny Yeah, you have to have a premise a thing you think is ridiculous and then that's your scaffolding and then it's all your perspectives on it Right, right. You know who was the best at that?

Richard Jenney. I was just thinking about him this morning. I was just thinking about him in terms of a comic that, I don't know if you knew him or not, but like I watched him as a kid and he blew me away with how good he was. He was so good. And then I talked to a tell in New York,

he's like, he was the guy. He was the guy. He was really the guy. In the 1980s, he was the guy. I apologize if you've heard me tell the story before people but uh he worked at Eastside comedy club, and he was there for the weekend, and I went there on Sunday and This dude Pete who was the MC was depressed I go why you depressed He goes cuz Richard Jenny did a totally different hour both shows Friday and both shows Saturday

Never repeated a joke and fucking murdered and he goes, I wanna quit comedy. That's insane, that's insane. Yeah, people like that'll frustrate you as a comic, but watching him as a kid, I was like, this is the, because we're Italians, so we're watching it as, but he's funny no matter what,

but just especially from being an Italian family and watching him, I'm like, this is the funniest thing. We were dying, we'd quote him. He was so good. He was so good. And you had to see him live. It's one of those things, like you see he's got some great specials.

A steaming pile of me is great. Platypus man. That's great. And his first one was the boy from New York City. That's great too. That's a great one. He has that Jaws story about being on the road and being so bored and watching the movie

Just just hits you with a face with how stupid it is It's such a great bit and it's so punched up all the way through and I I just I absolutely love that He was the best what I was getting at as a maximizing the scaffolding He would take a bit and he would find every possible angle and right when you thought he was done. He would get funnier Yeah, we go deeper and funnier and more ridiculous and there'd be callbacks and he was so good, but he fucking hated the fact that he wasn't Jim Carrey. He hated the fact that he wasn't a movie star.

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Platypus man same as a special they called it that And then that didn't UPN was like it was a new network and nobody was watching it It was one of those things just like right if you had a show there. It's like Yeah, yeah, you can't have a show on NBC right I mean it's not that good and the network's not getting any eyes exactly It was okay. You know and it lasted a little bit, and then he did the mask with Jim Carrey He did some other stuff, but he was good at night. He's a good actor He's a good actor, but he didn't have the classic good looks that would not that you need him like we Rodney He didn't have it either right or John Lovett's didn't have it either

But it's like he wanted to be a movie star and he was bummed out that he was on the road all the time and I would every time I would do radio, you know, there was always like the guy that would drive you I'm like, who's the most miserable fuck you ever have to drive and they all said Richard. Oh my god I'll say that no, it was me. It was like yeah He's the best there There's gotta be an opposite. You're the funniest guy, there's gotta be an opposite to that. Exactly, there's a disdain and an anger and frustration,

but it led him to be a fucking genius comedian, man. And no one talks about him anymore. I don't feel like anyone talks about him anymore. I try to carry the torch, I really do, because he affected me a lot when I was a kid. I remember, I used to kinda, one time I was an open micer and I found myself, I physically got sick, I was like,

oh no, I sounded exactly like him on stage. Like I was copying him, I was like, oh no, don't do that. But it's just because I loved him so much, I was such a fan. But as soon as that happens, it goes, I gotta stop listening to this guy. I gotta get away from him, I gotta stop listening to him. much, I was such a fan. But as soon as that happens, it goes, I gotta stop listening to this guy. I gotta get away from him, I gotta stop listening to him. Exactly, exactly.

But it was just, I just wanted to be him. I admired him so much, I wanted to be like him. But that's such a great thing with the scaffolding and it's like punched up all the way through and then just walking up there and knowing, it's like, I'm about to let this loose on this crowd. And it's like watching them react to it. It's like they're doubled over and you just keep coming at,

it's like when you're fighting, if you're fighting somebody, like a boxer, like a Pacquiao in his prime where he'd turn you, he'd hit you three times, turn you, hit you three times, turn you, and then hit you three more. And you're like, I can't move. Like there's no defense to this. So that's what like that is like,

is like just keep coming with punches punches punches punches and I love a big chunk like that like one of my favorite bits of the last few years Brian Simpson has this bit about the song wet-ass pussy, but it goes all the way back to Queen Elizabeth It's like this amazing long bit. I don't want to ruin it, but the end of it is fucking He wraps it up with a bow. It's his closer. I love that so good I love it I would like leave the green room when I knew he was gonna close just so I could watch the wet-ass pussy But I would ask him to do it, please I go please do the wet-ass pussy bet

Please because it was such a what it's like a poll but Brian's a real writer. Like, Brian sits down and writes. Which is one of the things that I always try to tell young guys. I'm like, I know you like to write on stage. I know you write when you're with your friends. I know you come up with great premises and you work them out on stage. But that extra step of sitting down and writing is fucking critical, man. It's big! It's big!

Because you can get stuff there that you wouldn't get. Right. And it's got to be a routine. Yep It's like get up do whatever you do stretch and then that's what I do now There's like stretch and then delay coffee. That's another big thing I'm trying is to delay coffee get because the gym is in the building get a workout first right out of bed and then and then come back up cold shower and then Get a cup of coffee and then write do that, cold shower, and then get a cup of coffee and then write.

Do that cold shower first, dude. Do that cold shower right away and then you won't even need the coffee. You'll be like, yeah, whoo! And then write into a workout. And then go right into a workout. And then a hot shower after? Sure, yeah, I do sauna after the workout.

That's what I usually do. That's great. Yeah, that's the move. I used to do steam room when I was at the Gym steam rooms, okay But the problem with steam rooms you really can't get it as hot because dry air won't like Scald your skin like wet wet air will poach you if you do 195 degrees wet You're gonna get burned it's gonna literally poach you like an egg

Hmm, but you can do 195 dry in a sauna. And that's why I don't know much about the infrared saunas. I don't think there's the same amount of data on them. It's definitely better than doing nothing. But I think that the real sauna, like we have a Salus sauna in the back here. That motherfucker will go up to 210, 215 if you wanted to. Wow. And that dry sauna is where all the research from Finland comes out. They did, over 20 years, they found that if you do the sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at 175 degrees, it's a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality. Didn't they do that?

Was this study in Italy? No, this was- They did a study of Italians who were doing sauna and it was something similar to that. It's all similar because it's all great for reduction of inflammation, increase of red blood cells. It has like a mild EPO effect on your endurance. Like one of the things that I've done, like every time I've been injured where I couldn't do cardio, I just did sauna every day

and then I'd go back to cardio and it was not that much of a drop off. Not like it used to be. Like it used to be like, if I got hurt, I couldn't hit the bag, I couldn't do cardio for a while and then I would go back to doing it like oh god I'm so out of shape. Yeah. Yeah, so that drop-off doesn't happen as much Not nearly as much if you do sauna every day and all like the Eastern blood Dan gable told me that that was something that he learned In his wrestling days Wow that all the Eastern block guys were all doing sauna after training and it's essentially like static cardio

So like I wear a whoop strap and I'll go in the sauna after training and I'll look at my app and I'm at 145 beats per minute just sitting there. Because I'll go straight from working out. So I'll do rounds in the bag and then heart rate elevated, go right in the sauna and it keeps your heart rate up. Because you're fucking struggling. You're struggling, your body body's true because it's already overheated from the workout and then your body's in 195 degrees And your heart's just pounding but it's like static cardio. That's really something

It's really good for you. And then I stretch in there, which is the best that is great. Oh, I used to do Bickram That's great. Yeah, I used to do it and I want to get back into it now that I'm not paying for a gym That's what you should do. That's I want to do Bickram yoga. Oh, that's great. Yeah, I used to do it, and I'm gonna get back into it now that I'm not paying for a gym. That's what you should do. That's what you should do for your back. I wanna do that, and I wanna go back to boxing. I used to do boxing. A bunch of comics went to boxing in New York, and we took a class together.

You guys sparring? Who's sparring? A little bit to the body, but nothing. He just took us through the training, and I mean, I wrestled a little bit in college, and I gotta say, the training was very, very, that's why I liked it. It was very, very tough. Yeah, it's very hard boxing stuff

Yeah, I mean, you know, but a lot of the boxing training for civilians isn't right this guy. His name is Steve Frank He put us through it and it's like It's it was he was like would not let up. Yeah after after an hour. You're like, oh my god It's like you got to get used to you can't be on the road too much because you got to get used to it Right because if you don't get used to it, then it shoots your whole day, right? You're exhausted for the rest of the day It's like I can't do any that spots. I get you know yeah Yeah, that's like I always avoid doing leg days on days I do stand up and I've done it before well

I've done leg days then I try and I go on stage that night I'm always like struggling. It's just like it's just too hard. It's too much of a burden on your entire system. Right, right. You know, squats and lunges and pulling the sled and all that shit. Yeah. At the end of the- But it feels good. Like, the suffering is like a Goggins thing where it's like this

suffering. Like, put yourself in an uncomfortable situation every day. And then when you come out of it, it just feels so good. I try to tell that to everybody. I'm like, I know it sucks, but please do it. It'll make the rest of your life suck less. It really will. And you don't have to do what I do.

You could just, I mean, just put a weighted vest on and go walk around your block. You don't have to do much. Right, right. It's not that hard. You just have to do something. Something. Just do something that sucks.

Yeah. Do 100 pushups, 100 sit-ups, 100 bodyweight squats every day. Do that. It's not that hard. You just have to do something. Something. Just do something that sucks. Yeah. Do 100 pushups, 100 sit ups, 100 body weight squats every day. Do that. It's not that hard. Yeah. Do it in sets of, if you can't do 20, do it in sets of 10.

Just do 10 sets of 10 for the pushups, build up to it, start, tell yourself you're gonna do 20 today, 20 this week, next week you're gonna do 25, then before you know it, you're doing 100. Right. And just do that. Yeah.

Just do fucking something. Something. Yeah, just do fucking something something Yeah, and you feel so good after it. That's the whole thing And that's the time I try to time it with when I'm writing because it's like you want to feel all You want to feel that energy while you're writing? Yeah, I do my best writing late at night I do my best writing when everyone's asleep. That's another secret where it's like the guys who write after the set. Yes. Yeah, that's it. That's a city where it's like I'm done. I'm gonna watch them. I'm gonna deescalate now and go to sleep, especially on the road You're doing an hour two shows. You're doing an hour two shows and then you come back. You're like, alright I want to be I traveled all day. I want to deescalate to go to sleep

It's like, you know trick yourself a little bit. Let me just look at these notes Yeah, let me just look at the notes that I have on the set that I just did It's suck. That's the crazy thing about it. It doesn't suck to do. It's not like you hate it It's not like painful now, but you avoid it. You avoid it. Yeah Yeah, you avoid it cuz you're like now I did it. I'm done. I want to go to sleep It's like I just take another just check in on it. Yeah, check in on the act even 20 minutes You might yield one of your best punchlines It is like every now and then like the universe will reward you if you put in that work Yeah, just sit down and put in that work. Yeah, I think that's what fucking everything in the world everything

I was watching this video today on usix training on Alexander usik. Who's just did you see that fight? Yeah, Jesus Christ, dude Yeah I mean he's one of the best of all time one of the absolute best heavyweights It's ever lived the thing that was remarkable about and I agree the thing that's remarkable about that fight is Dubois came out the first round and Was aggressive and I'm like, oh right Dubois is fucking danger is coming dude and he like this is an opportunity and I'm not I'm not gonna lose it I'm like and

Usyk felt that they said between rounds he felt it and he's like, okay. Okay. I'm like, and Usyk felt that. They said between rounds, he felt it. And he's like, okay, okay, I can't let this guy get confidence. So he stepped in the center of the ring and just started countering him and not giving up any more ground. Yeah, and cutting these angles, he just downloads what you're doing

and starts adding in feints. And, you know, Joshua said that when he trained, when he fought him rather, that at the last round he had never been More tired in his life. He just couldn't believe how tired it makes you because he's constantly fainting and moving So I watched this his training routine today. Jesus Christ man, like no wonder he's in the same shape He would swim sometimes for five hours a day Five hours of just laps in the pool. He would do, he starts his day at 4.30 in the morning.

So 4.30 in the morning, he gets up, eats breakfast, and has his first training at five. At five, it's all conditioning. It's all like running, rowing, biking, takes a break, eats again, takes a little nap, back in the gym again like two hours and then he's sparring, boxing, doing all that workout, then eats, takes a break, relaxes a little bit, evening session is boxing.

And evening session he's sparring, he's hitting mitts, he's hitting the bag, gets up in the morning and does it all over again. And it's like it's all like this, that's that reverse hyper that I was just showing you. That's crazy. That's the machine that Louis Simmons created that is fucking phenomenal for your lower back. It decompresses your back actively on the downswing

and strengthens it on the upswing. And Louis, who is a genius, who is one of the only guys we ever traveled to do a podcast with. Oh, really? Yeah, it's like, I got to get this guy on film. He's like a legitimate strength genius and he Developed that machine because he had a bulging disc and they were like oh you got to get your disk fused because he was a power Lifter right complete maniac complete psychopath on steroids his whole life. He was amazing person and

He was like that doesn't make any sense if compression is what the problem was, decompression will fix it. And he devised that machine to actively decompress on the downswing. So strengthening all the tissue around that and then decompressing it on the downswing. Wow, that makes sense. He must have had like a, did he have some kind of an engineering background? He must have to do it Yeah, there's Louie the fucking man to create that thing such a fun guy to talk to to which is such a fucking Psychopath an intelligent psychopath and look at his back Just a fun fun dude, but genius when it came to strength and conditioning. I mean he so many guys like

MMA fighters went and trade with him Matt the immortal brown did a lot of training with him and then you know used a lot of his stuff with you know Matt sells equipment now to it's a lot of stuff that he worked on with Louie right, but it's like You know he'd have all these guys that were like these world champion lifters I mean these guys are fucking Gorilla gorillas man big shaved head But Louie was the man this episode is brought to you by rocket money financial freedom When you get down to it is not worrying about money, but with prices these days that's easier said than done

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ladder board, you know, on the ground, you know, the ladder where you're doing the steps. It's like constant shuffling back and forth, spinning. It's all these punches with medicine balls. It's like when you watch him train, it makes sense because he's training specifically to move differently than everybody else does. It's all these constant movements and switches

and angles and strength and, you know, he's a legit heavyweight now. He's 227 for the Dua fight. And, you know, this is coming from a guy who was the undisputed cruiserweight champion. So he's a small heavyweight, but the best heavyweights were small, except for Foreman and a couple other guys,

like Tyson was small, Ali was not big. He's exactly the same size as Ali when Ali was in his prime. Holyfield. Holyfield was not big. Holyfield came in, yeah. Exactly. But he unified, like, he unified that cruiserweight division. Like, he didn't get any gifts there. He went around and unified it, and then moved up,

and then unified. I mean it's just what was the how many weeks is that training camp? Oh, I don't know. I mean it has to be three months plus. I mean I would imagine the most difficult opponent for him is Tyson Fury because Tyson Fury is six foot nine. He is an incredible boxer. He's one of the best boxers of all time,

and regardless of any division. Just skillful, Tyson Fury's a skillful boxer. He's slick and intelligent, and people talk about what's next for Usyk, should it be Joseph Parker? Yeah, that would be a great fight. Joseph Parker deserves it. But what I wanna see before the fucking, the haze in the barn, I wanna see one more.

One more Tyson Fury, because Fury's the only one that's given him problems, the only one that came close. He hurt him to the body a bunch of times in this fight. He was lightin' him up with a jab. You know, those fights were close. They were very close. They were close. I mean, Usyk almost stopped him in the first fight.

In, I think it was the ninth round. He could've, and he pulled back when the referee was calling it a knockdown, where he could've caught him one or two more times right and that would have probably been that would have been a wrap But other than that like no one has given usix the problem that Tyson Fury's given them And I think you give Tyson one more shot at it where I mean he's training now I know he's posting up a lot of stuff about his times like he's doing a lot of endurance work now And so he's gearing up for it. See, you never fight before.

He's gotta have another fight like I want. He doesn't have to. No? No, right into the fucking, come on, man. This guy's a veteran, he's been doing it forever. Right into the fury, right into the fire, rather. See, I wanna see Fury and Joshua. Oh, yeah. That's an all-England bash.

Oh, I'd love to see that too. Yeah. I'd love to see that too. That would sell out like Wembley. Well, they're talking about doing... They were supposed to fight many times a long time ago. It kept, you know, they were supposed to fight when they thought they were on a, you know, and the money was never right or something,

but now with like, Turkey Alashik in the mix, you know. Well, it would say if they decided to do Parker versus Usyk, which is a great fight, I think that would be the fight that they would have underneath. That would be amazing, Tyson and Joshua. But they're talking right now about doing Anthony Joshua Jake Paul

I know I saw that Jake Paul apparently wants that fight and he he agreed to I think it was 99% to one where Joshua gets 99% of the money and he gets 1% See if that's true. That's what I believe. I read that online That might be just some shenanigans. But look, regardless of what you think about Jake Paul, like- I think Jake Paul's a great athlete. Oh, for sure.

He's a great athlete. I don't know if him or Logan placed in states in Ohio in wrestling, like you're not, that may seem like nothing to people on a national level, but if you're placing in states in Ohio, they're both great athletes. You're a great athlete, yeah. Both of them are great athletes.

People think they're jokes because they were famous when they were kids right that doesn't mean anything Yeah, like Mario Lopez people look at Mario Lopez like Mario Lopez is like saved by the bell guy No, Mario Lopez can box and fight. He does Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He's a very good wrestler I don't ever seen that guy that does I'll give you a thousand dollars if you could take me down We're so I love that guy. I love that guy's from my I'll give you a thousand dollars if you could take me down. Have you ever seen that guy? I love that guy. I love that guy. That guy's from my high school in Ohio.

What is his name? I don't know. It's something Greek, but like, he's a guy who, he was a Ohio State champ and maybe a runner up his senior year. And then he went to Cleveland State and was just a guy who was like, I don't think he did anything in college really,

but the way he wrestles, I could see by the way he wrestles, and it's a good video series, it's just like very smooth, very smooth. He's very, very talented. Oh, he's super talented. Point is Mario Lopez wrestled him and gave him a fucking great scramble. That's really something. A bunch of great roles, a bunch. That's great.

Mario Lopez is legit like really legit Yeah, and you could say a fuck to say by the bell pussy. Oh fucking smack up that dude will fuck you up You can say all that until you get into it with them, Georgia polis. That's yeah, that's your shot out to Georgia He's a bad motherfucker. Yeah, cuz that guy wrestles dudes way bigger than him check out this Mario I love that so by the way Mario Lopez in his fucking 50s He's in his 50s now watch scoot ahead a little so you can see some of this Scoot ahead so you can see some of this Mario can fucking wrestle dude like legit wrestle and scramble and avoid takedowns. Oh you got him there. Yeah. Yeah

and avoid takedowns. Oh, you got him there. Yeah, yeah. Look at this. Yeah. Mario shoots in on a single. I love that. Like that's some good scrambles. And again, in his fucking 50s man. That's great. He's also competing in jujitsu, and I know he's won jujitsu matches. Like these are good fucking scrambles, man. Legit. Yeah, I love it. I love watching this series too. Oh yeah. No, the dude's good. And he's done it with some national champions and a bunch of-

He always does an interview beforehand. It's like, what discipline are you from? How many years? And then he's like, from one to 10, 10 being you're gonna take me down, what do you think that the odds are that you take me down? A lot of them say 10. A lot of them say 10, dude.

And some of them are really big guys, you know what I mean? It just goes to show you. It's like, that guy's tough and he's a technician. Well that's the whole thing about grappling, is technique. It's everything. It's everything. It's in Jiu Jitsu, in Judo, and everything. It's just about technique.

This is a great old Judo clip of this guy, I mean I want to say he was in his 70s at the time, and it's a black and white film of all his younger black belts rolling with him, like doing standing, I don't know what they call it, standing judo practice, and he's like effortlessly avoiding these takedowns with balance and technique. It doesn't ever look like he's like exploding

or really using a lot of force and just flips these guys to the ground. It's gorgeous to watch. It's just exploding, using a lot of force and just flips these guys to the ground. It's gorgeous to watch. It's just like, my goodness. Cause you know, you're looking at that guy like there's no, that guy's not a brute. He's not some big giant 200 pound muscle up fucking super athlete that you just, he's just technique. Just beautiful technique. And it's also, it's also, it's very loose.

Yeah. It's like, it's like, find that Jamie. It's like old judo guy Trains with younger students and it's old. It's like black and white. I got the Jake Paul There's a lot of rumors that it says that 99 to one was accepted on his side, but I can't find like where he said it I just like a lot of Instagram Maybe he doesn't care about the money like Jake Paul like probably doesn't care about the money But I plenty of money and if he won, oh my god if he if he beat anthony joshua good lord Good lord i mean that's a big if i mean anthony joshua i do not olympic gold medalist former heavyweight champion of the world What he did to francis and gano like good lord yes do you want that smoke yeah i just think it's all about the promotion

Or whatever i have no idea what the actual motivation is for that fights not competitive at all What's a dangerous fight? Yeah, because Joshua's gonna try to make an example out of us for sure and will and will I mean Was one of the biggest one punch KO artists ever yes I mean, he's a one punch fucking night night guy. Yeah, you know he's a great boxer You know very skillful. Yeah, but a gun who fight we all thought it's like the gunner with fury It's like wow this guy's in the mix now. He's a great boxer, very skillful. Yeah, the Nagano fight we all thought it's like, Nagano with Fury, it's like, wow, this guy's in the mix now. He's in the mix. Let's see what happens.

And it's like, oh, okay, that's what happened. The difference is Fury, I think, underestimated him. I think Fury took him super lightly, and he thought he was gonna box his face off. And that power that Francis has is legendary. Francis is like a character from a comic book You know I mean he lived in Cameroon, and he worked in the sand mines when he was a boy It's like the Conan origin story right like digging sand as a boy. Just fuck it

Well, hopefully you got paid for it. Here's the guy like check out this old dude And I think this dude look at this shit, bro bro I think this dude might have been 90 at the time. I'm not kidding. I don't know what how old he is How old does it say he is Jamie? He's old as shit well however old he is he's at least 70 and he looks to me like he's even older than that look How he just look how he's avoiding this that's like so relaxed right right just the size of the guy that's trying to throw him Who's a judo black belt who's towering over? Yeah? Yeah, look at this bro effortless. I love that effortless takedowns Yeah But it's look at this guy like this guy hitting that hip throw and not getting any movement off that old dude at all right

And it's look the old dudes tiny and guy. And everything he does is just super relaxed. He just knows where to be where you can't throw him. Look, look, steps in the right position, he's not exploding, he just anticipates your movements and meets you there. It's like, Judah, when you walk, look at that, man. I mean, he just threw a dude that's twice his size. He throws him like effortless

It's kind of amazing man. It is and you know And you would think it's bullshit unless you've trained with a guy like that and then you go wow this is nuts man It's just perfect Like execution of that kind of technique right you know it's unreal and when you see in a wrestling, too It's like you see guys who they chain moves together and as the guys try to do that This they're countering with this and then next thing you know they're on your back and you're down like my god Yeah, such a Under-appreciated thing wrestling you know it really is like the way we appreciate it too I mean I wrestled, but I was never that I was never like could get that fluid right you know I mean that fluid

That's really the guys who are like top-notch. Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter what program you come from It's like you could see it you could see this guy, Georgia like he has it It's like the flow like he'll shoot for something if that doesn't he'll he'll see where the leg and he'll he'll adjust on the fly Yeah, it's like the improv of it is amazing Yeah, it's it's a really underappreciated sport in terms of like the way the public perceives sports. Everybody loves basketball, everybody loves baseball. We love all these sports and no one appreciates wrestling

so it never had a professional outlet for whatever dumb reason other than MMA, where it dominates. If you look at MMA, like if you look at all the disciplines of all the champions of all time, I think wrestling has a significant lead. I think there's more athletes that came from wrestling that became world champions in any other discipline. Well, before everybody started cross-training, I think our training was the model. I might be wrong, but like our training, like wrestling practice was very hard. When I was in like an even eighth grade,

I was like, this is unbelievably harder than anything I've ever experienced. So I think everybody cross trains now, everybody kind of trains like that, but we were the first where it's like you get in, it's like you warm up and it's just military like in its execution of practice. So in practice, you're just wiped out at the end of practice

and then you have to be in practice You're just wiped out at the end of practice and they have to cut weight after that It's mental strength. Yeah on top of that. That's a giant factor with wrestling and one of things about wrestlers is they Revel in the fact that they suffer more than anybody else. Yes, they they like take it as a badge of courage All right They it's like a badge of honor that they'll display like Mike over there. He fucking suffers more than anybody That's why he wins. Mike's a psycho. He's up at 3 o'clock in the morning eating raw eggs You know those are the guys that everyone was scared of but very few people have said wrestling is fun like basketball is fun No one who's wrestled seriously is like oh, it's fun. It's like it's not fun. No like the training is not fun

It's it's painful and it's not fun. Like, the training is not fun. It's painful and it's suffering. It's only fun if the guy you're wrestling sucks. Yeah. And you train a lot. That moment will be fun. Winning is great. Oh yeah. But, you know, the actual process of going to practice,

I gotta practice, I gotta cut weight. Yeah. But it's one of the best character developers for young men. Absolutely. Absolutely. The guys that I meet that are former wrestlers, competitive wrestlers. They're just a different kind of human being Yeah, it's like military guys like guys who have been through like Navy SEAL training or there's a different kind of human Yeah, yeah

It's like you're gonna you're dealing with a guy who can get through some shit that the average person is gonna fold up under And if you can learn how to do that and overcome that desire to quit when you're a kid, oh it's so valuable, it's so valuable for the rest of your life. Absolutely and it helps if you're not very good. Yeah right. If you're also like on the fence and you have to work for everything it's like because you're coming across all kinds of adversity and stuff and then you have to figure out and you know I could speak from experience it's embarrassing to get pinned in a gym full of people. That's not like losing a basketball game.

Even football, and I love the comradery of football. It's not losing a football game. Having your shoulder blades pinned down in front of everybody in a gymnasium is- Against your will. Against your will. It's like. Yeah, it's totally humiliating.

And the reality about fighting is if a guy can hold you down, he can beat you up. That's like. Yeah, it's totally humiliating. It's humiliating. And the reality about fighting is if a guy can hold you down, he can beat you up. That's just how it works. This guy who's my same weight can pretty much do whatever he wants to me. Oh yeah. So. Yeah, it's.

Take that home with you. And when you go up, when I wrestled, I remember the difference between regular guys that would wrestle in meets. You know, you'd mauled in Massachusetts would wrestle against Newton And you know go to travel them the ever seen that and then getting in there with like a state champion It's like oh, okay. This is like any of you here these guys go to camps every summer, and it's 24 7 365 They're always wrestling right. There's no like wrestling season like I never catch up

It's so funny was when you're in a guy, you're in with a guy who's really good. You're mentally preparing yourself. It's like, I just gotta take a tomb. I just gotta take a tomb. I just gotta go out there and be aggressive and take a tomb. And then he's moving so fast that you're like, I just, I don't, I can't keep up with this guy.

Yeah, you have no chance. And most people have no idea how to help us there against a wrestler. There's a horrible street fight video that I watched the other day where this guy, they square off in the street. this guy takes a swing at this guy and this guy shoots in with a double, hoists this dude up into the air and powerslams him on his head on the concrete and then punches him in the face a couple times where he's

completely unconscious and then his buddies jump on him and it's a fucking melee. Thank God for that. Yeah, well I think- Your buddy's a fucking melee. Thank God for that. Yeah, well I think the buddy's pulling him off I don't think even that alone man you get a real powerful wrestler slams you on your head I mean, that's you might not live. I don't know what happened to that guy But I looked at that I'm like that guy could be dead guys get guys die all the time from getting knocked out in Street fight yeah, they're following their head. Yeah, that's how they die. Yeah, but that's another video. It's like what happens afterwards Did you see that video from there's a Cleveland Jazz Festival?

Cincinnati Cincinnati Jazz Festival where this couple got jumped and this guy got Beaten down and kicked and then the girl was trying to separate it and this guy punches the girl and chaos her and she falls and bangs Her head on the ground and she's out cold With her eyes open fucking horrifying. That's horrible to watch and people are like screaming and cheering kick his ass and unfortunately It's a bunch of black people jumping to white people, so it's even more problematic You know I mean yeah, it's it's a horrible

Yeah, man of the worst aspects of human nature right fucking desire to beat people up for no reason I don't mean I don't know what the reason was I don't know what happened right those things are hard to watch you have to watch like Cute pet videos after that for days get yourself back. You know like a dog who befriends her cat I mean as a man punched a woman right in the face and knocked her unconscious And she bangs her head off the ground her eyes are out wide open Oh, it's fucking horrible man that kind of shit could affect you for the rest of your life I'm sure you might not ever be the same like

Traumatic brain injuries like that there's people that never come back from those right That's nuts. It's nuts. That's not man. You just can't go out Yeah, especially if it's a fight if it's a one-on-one fight. It's like I don't I don't like that whole the shit talking back and forth It's like fuck you know fuck you. It's like okay. Are we gonna? What's gonna happen here like enough of this are we gonna have fight is this a fight now? I like what let's just do it and then You know one-on-one fights are stupid. They get you killed. You know it's They're over with you know one-on-one fights are stupid. They get you killed. You know it's

People don't play by rules. It's dumb. It's almost always unnecessary Just most people it's just their ego gets involved, and they think they're in a fucking movie right you know and the amount of people that get in street fights that have No training to me is the craziest I watch so many videos where guys don't know what they're doing at all right They're just yeah, you're right the ego gets involved in it They're in an argument and that transitions over into physical, but I think half the guys maybe don't think it's gonna go Into the physical they're just like blood at shit talking yeah Yeah, you gotta don't do that and sometimes it doesn't and that's good You know what I mean or whatever, but like I mean when it does and you're not ready for it. It's can be terrible

It's the worst thing in the world. Yeah, I was why there's a comic I don't want to say his name, but he was a real angry dude I always yelled at people and he got in this like Yelling altercation with this fucking guy and I pulled him aside. Hey, what the fuck are you doing man? Do you even know how to fight? He's like no no if you I'm like have you ever been in a fight He's like no no I go well. Why are you calling this guy out to fight? This is crazy like you're gonna get killed you're gonna do it with some guy one day, and he's gonna go Oh, this is gonna be fun this guy right oh

I finally get a chance to beat the shit out of somebody some boxer or something It's gonna just beat your fucking face in man. Like don't do that Yeah, you know what you want your jaw wired shut for six months like what are you talking about? Especially with the health insurance companies these days bro. You never know what they're gonna cover and what they're not gonna not cover How crazy you see the Ben Askren thing? Yeah, how crazy is that? It's nuts man The guy needs a double lung transplant. I mean, how can that it how can that not be covered? How can that not be how can that happen in our society? Exactly. What's going on? It's profit over fucking humanity, but how is it allowed to legally? How are they legally?

I don't know the ins and the outs of it But like the legally allowed to to be like no, we're not covering that, you know It's like a like the idea of a pre-existing condition was nuts to me What kind of pre-existing condition? I mean he's got health insurance. He gets sick like what are you talking about? He got pneumonia is got holes in his fucking lungs right he needs double lung transplant, and you say no you have to die Meanwhile he gets the lug transplant. I think actually Jake Paul donated a bunch of money to her and some other folks did too Which is great because Jake Paul actually fought him in the past. They had a boxing match together, which should have never taken place Jake flatlined him. Oh, did he really? Oh, it's terrible. Ask her and is super tough man. Yeah, he's very tough guy He's not a boxer right never been known for having good hands. He was an amazing wrestler. Yes, but uh

Jake's stepped up and paid a big chunk of his his medical bills. That's awesome. So he's training now again he's posting videos and he's you know he weighs like 135 pounds right now and he's got this giant scar across his chest his arms are like sticks and and he's you know on the bike working out again and Ben's trying to put weight back on and very- Just trying to rehab. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to to get his body back, right? Yeah, but I saw the I didn't watch the whole videos, but his face looks really crazy. Yeah Yeah, he lost like 35 pounds, you know, and he was there for months just

rotting away It's just crazy. He's a super tough. He was a super super tough wrestler Oh, dude, the Bellator days if you go back and watch him in the Bellator days He would just dominate guys. They would have no clue as to what he was doing He would take some of the best fighters in the world and as soon as you grabbed the hold of them They were fucked and that guy had like was known to have a motor. He would never get tired Yeah, he wrestled at Missouri. I think my friend Greg Warren was an all-american. He's a great comic Greg I know Greg, you know Greg. I work with Greg back in the day. He's unbelievable. Yeah, funny dude.

And, you know, I wrestled and everything, but he was, Greg was an All-American. Yeah, he was a real legit wrestler. Yeah, and he knows Askren. Oh, okay. And I met him at Nationals one year. I always wanted Askren to fight in the UFC long before he did, and unfortunately, I think, like, he did sort of the prime of his career in Bellator and no one got a chance to see it. Because that was when he was at his best, when he was fighting guys like Douglas Lima

who was another guy who people forgot because he was fighting so much in Bellator but he was one of the best Walter Weitz ever. He was one of the only guys to knock out MVP. Douglas Lima is a fucking beast man and Ben Asperin got a hold of him and just ragdoll no kidding yeah, Korshkov another guy killer fucking nasty spinning back kick He was nasty nasty striker ragdoll Ben got a hold of him. Just he was just throwing those guys around They just gave him noogies. They couldn't do shit. There's nothing they could do to him. That's really yeah They couldn't get up and he like I can't emphasize a guy who never gets tired

Yeah, like I always had to like pace out like and think about it's like how much energy is this? You kind of have to subconsciously go how much energy is this gonna take cuz I got it. I got to conserve my energy It's like that's just not a thing well That's the difference between a guy who's's constantly wrestling and doing it all of his life and doing camps and starting when he was a young boy. And also, his technique was so good. He's so unorthodox as well. So efficient.

Yeah, yeah, so efficient. So efficient. Efficient with the energy is a big thing. Oh, that's huge. I mean, if a guy doesn't have to be tense all the time, but it's like this video that I watched with Uzek, it was very eye-opening. It was like, of course, you do 15 rounds of three and a half minutes with a 20 second rest So he's preparing himself for a 12 round fight

He would do 15 but he would do three and a half minute rounds and he would do 20 seconds rest instead of one minute Yeah And if he if he touched his back to the ropes at any point in time, he would add another round. That's nuts That's great. That's really great fucking I love that. It's like the Lomachenko I didn't see the Usyk one, but I saw how Lomachenko trained same. Yeah the same kind of father. Yeah His father trains Usyk. Yeah, exactly and it's bananas like the coordination. Mm-hmm He quit boxing as a young kid to learn Russian dance Well, that's why his footwork is so crazy. His footwork is insane. I would really like to have seen him fight Shakur. Mm-hmm

And you know, these guys tanking Shakur are great, but they were calling him out and it was after I think Lomachenko was after he fought Haney and he was like, I'm kind of done He fought Kambosas and then that was yeah, he rapped on that. I felt like he got robbed in thought Haney and he was like I'm kind of done. He fought Cambosus and then that was yeah He rapped on that I felt like he got robbed in the Haney fight. I thought so, too I thought he won that fight I thought it was a bummer to me because I was like this is kind of a great comeback story the guy Fights for Ukraine in the war comes back. It's back in the shape right fights again And I think and Haney's great, but he was much bigger Than Lomo Lomo was that?

He just looked very small. He looked like he was fighting at 35, but these guys are cutting down from God knows where. Like Haney's fighting at 47 now. So it's, you could just see their builds. They look different. Yeah, this is a different size, different size person. But Shakur, I'm saying Shakur is,

looks about the same size as Lomo. Also super skillful. Super skillful. And I was happy,ur is looks about the same size as Lomo also naturally super skillful super skillful Yeah, and I was happy. I was happy as the last his last fight best Philly shell since Floyd Mayweather Yeah, his fucking defense was incredible. Yeah defense and he stayed and that guy was putting the guy from Golden Boy I can't remember his name who he fought but was just a good fighter and was really pressuring him and She Corp stayed in the pocket. Yeah, he stayed in the box Before he's not a runner. Yeah, but he said after that fight, I'm not gonna fight that way anymore He said I took too many shots. Oh really? Yeah, because he wanted to like put on a show and show everybody

He's not just a runner. He could stand in the pot. He's like, why am I doing this? I'll box the shit out of these. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's so metal is that guy? Yeah. Oh, he could stand in the pocket, and then he's like, why am I doing this? I'll box the shit out of these motherfuckers. I mean, he's silver medalist, that guy. Yeah, oh, he's elite, he's elite. And just one of the best, as far as skill. What do you think of Crawford Canelo? I love it. Do you?

Yeah, I love it. See, I don't. Crawford wants to do it. I don't love it. I think it's Crawford's last fight, so I'm happy he's gonna cash out, and I'm rooting for him, but I would like to see him stay at 54 and fight Virgil Ortiz.

I'd like to see that too, but the big money is Canelo. I know. And why not do it? I mean, what a ballsy move. You go 47 to 54 and you go up, fuck 60, it'll go right up to 68. That's crazy, because he's really not even at 54. He's taken the fight at 54, he took Madremoff

because it was a big fight wins another world title, right? And he won that people were like trying to describe like he fought first of all Terrence fought great Yeah, Matt Romance is great. That's great. I do it and fought him differently than he fought every other guy Yeah, he did fighting differently. Yeah, he's dangerous and that's a great athlete anybody does a backflip Yeah in the in the ring like that guy He's a great athlete and and he is like the only Eastern black fighters always have like Seven they're like seven to know and it looks like nothing. It's like yeah, but he has 400 amateur fights Exactly like Arthur better beef. It's a perfect example. He had like 300 amateur fights sort of Lomachenko

They they have hundreds of amateur fights the by the time they get to the professional ranks like yeah This isn't a regular one and oh god now These are these are guys that just they can do stuff that you can't even imagine being able to do they're unreal So who do you have in the fight? I would listen. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be a great fight You're dealing with two all-time greats Crawford's one of the best switch hitters, I think, since Marvin Hagler, and one of the most skillful boxers alive. And then you have Canelo, who probably isn't the same guy as he was just a few years ago, but still one of the greatest of all time, still has brutal knockout power.

If you go back to some of his more impressive fights from a few years ago like Like the Amir Khan ko, you know like the Billy Joe Saunders ko like those kids like he's probably not that guy anymore Yeah, but he's still he's still young enough that he's still like pretty close to his prime and one of the best of all time I'd like to see him fight David Benavides. Oh yeah, of course. And I think that the WBC should have forced it, that fight. I know he's the draw of boxing and he's the face of boxing and all that stuff, but.

Says a lot that he doesn't want that fight. You can't let the inmates run the asylum, for lack of a better phrase. You have to force the fight. Patrick Mahomes comes into a football season, he doesn't automatically go to the playoffs. He's gotta play every game. And if he loses enough games,

he has to go on the road in the playoffs. It's like the WBC should have forced Canelo to fight David Benavides, because that's not fair that David Benavides has to go up to 75 now, and he has to wait to see the winner of the better beef bivou fight yeah well that was the fight the fight I mean for Mexican bragging rights too you know what a great fight and in no way do I think that Canelo

was afraid of him or anything he's just trying to maneuver his career with the least risk and the most money and the most money I think he said he wanted to fight him but he wanted like $200 million or something crazy like that. I mean, but your mandate, it's your mandatory defense at 68. It's your mandate. How do you choose? I know you're the face of boxing, but how do you choose?

The WBC got to force that man. Yeah, but maybe the Saudis will cough up that money eventually. Like maybe he beats Crawford and then they say listen like Turkey Al-Sheikh decides. What does this say? David Benavides. They offered Canelo 70 million to fight me. That's before pay-per-view. They offered me a flat fee of five million. I said yes. Then we never heard back.

Whoa. That's crazy. But you know maybe for him 70 million is not the number he wanted. Maybe he thinks the Saudis will give him 200. They might. Look if he beats the Saudis will give him 200. They might. Look, if he beats Crawford, that might be the move. But it speaks to how boxing is organized. Yeah. That's true.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's goofy. It's like not organized. It wants to be respected as a sport, but it's not organized that way. Well, there's so many sanctioning bodies. You know? Yeah, I say clean them out. Yeah.

Clean out those sanctioning bodies. It's one title. them out. Clean out the sanctioning bodies. It's one title. It's hard to do, though, because if someone's offering someone a world title fight, they can make so much more money as a world champion. Like you win the WBO. Let's say, like, Canelo vacates some titles, and the guy picks it up.

He's still a WBO champion, or a WBC champion, or WBA, or IBF, or IBO. But that's the problem, is that there's so many world champions. Whereas in MMA, you can be a Bellator world champion, but WBC champion or WBA or IBF or IBO but that's the problem is that there's so many world champions whereas an MMA Like you can be a Bellator world champion But everybody knows you're not really the world champion unless you're the UFC world champion in terms of public perception Yeah, there's guys I think that we're Bellator champions that could have won in the UFC at that same weight class and there's guys that did like

Eddie Alvarez came over from Bellator he was a world champion and he won the world title in the UFC, guys did it. But the reality is, most people think of a world champion as a UFC champion. But in boxing, the WBA champion is thought exactly the same way as the WBC champion, depends on who it is. You know what I mean?

Like if like Tyson has, if it was Mike Tyson in the early days and he had the WBC belt and you had the WA belt, you weren't the champion. Mike Tyson was the early days and he had the WBC belt and you had a WA belt you weren't the champion Mike Tyson was the champion everybody knew it but other than those kind of examples you know where there's one guy that's just the ultimate in that weight class a world championship is worth a lot of money so it's hard for guys to say no and just say look I'm only gonna fight for the ring magazine belt that's what the Saudis own and they're gonna make everybody fight everybody it's gonna be the most amount of money because I think that's what they're kind of angling

towards. Structuring it differently? Yeah. Because that's what needs I mean in my opinion that's what needs to happen needs to be structured differently and there needs to be like the fights need to be forced and you know what you have to let go of the draw a little bit like well This fight is not gonna it doesn't matter if it draws or not. We need this fight to happen right so that we can get the best Champion yes, you know I mean so we can't the real champion here, right? So it doesn't matter if it's not technically a good matchup right it has to be forced It means something to be the number one contender it means But then if you do that you never get fights like Tyson Fury versus Francis and Gano

Right you only get those fights those fun fights if someone's like okay. Let's just try this Right, but I think that's what? They're like prop fights. I don't know if I call him that but like what Floyd is doing now, right? He's like he kind of deserves to do that. He's outside, he's retired, and he's like, I'm putting on these fights. And if he can get paid for them, good for him. Yeah, oh yeah. You know what I mean?

But that's outside of what we consider real competition. Yeah, well, this is different because Floyd's 50. This is a different thing. But when you're talking about- And what Jake is doing too, what Jake Paul is doing too, he's like, I challenge this guy And it's like that's fine, and that's fun, right?

But is that the highest level of if he fought better be or the Anthony Joshua thing is? Crazy to me, too, but it's like if he fought better be it's like yeah better Come on fight. That would be the fight. That would be fun to watch Because you can't run from BetterBeef. No. He's terrifying. He's terrifying. He's 42. Technically sound, he's 40.

These guys are all older because of their amateur careers. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Usyk's 38, which is also crazy. He's in his prime at 38. But I think a big part of that, it speaks to his discipline, that he stays in such insane shape.

Who's that, Usyk? Usyk. Yeah, he doesn't let himself, and BetterBeef as well. There's some amazing videos ofk? Usyk, yeah, he doesn't let himself, and Betterbeef as well. There's some amazing videos of Betterbeef. Very similar kind of training methods. Like it's Russians and Ukrainians and Betterbeef's Chechnyan. It's like these guys.

Chechnyan Muslim, doesn't drink, disciplined lifestyle. And then this is funny, because they ask these guys about, who's your favorite boxer? He's like, I really don't watch it. This is my job. Crazy. He goes, this is my job. This is my job. He goes, this is my job. This is my job.

I come, I do my job. I go home to my family. Crazy. You don't watch boxing? You don't watch boxing. That's one of the best ever. Who's the Denver Nuggets guy? Who's the, he's another guy who says that

after they won the NBA championship. Jokic. Jokic, he's another guy who, he won the NBA championship. He's like, nah, it's fun. It's fun, we celebrate. And thench. He's another guy. He won the NBA championship. He's like, nah, it's fun. It's fun. We celebrate and then go home with my family now. I don't think about basketball. He doesn't even get emotional when he wins, but his horse won and he broke down crying. Oh, you see it? There it is. Emotionally celebrates after his horse wins a race. That's so great. So his horse won a race and he was fucking crying. He was like,

this is the greatest thing of all time. They're gonna be so happy so happy So if you want when they had him in the stand, there's a video of him at the end of it Dad it's not a video. That's not the same video, but so when his horse did win he was like crying and so happy meanwhile Something he's been working for his whole wins, it's like something he's been working for his whole life, he's like, I don't know. Maybe that's the secret to success. He stays zen about it.

Well they look at it like it's a job, they prepare mentally, and these guys are very mentally tough, and they prepare for it like a job, and then they go and do the job, and they're like, this isn't my life. It kinda dials back some of the ego on it, which I like. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm this guy.

It's like, no, I'm doing this. And then when I retire, I'll just be a guy. No one thinks about that in America. Everybody's like, no, I'm gonna go to, and I get it. It's like, I'm gonna go to the next thing. Maybe I can parlay this into something else or a vitamin water. I can have a cologne.

You know what I mean? It's like they're trying to parlay it into something else to make more money. But I don't know, man. These these guys they have the eye of the tiger. Oh, yeah You know I mean we we played a few times on this podcast Serbian basketball when they played basketball in Serbia and how the crowd is you like oh my god This is like you're stepping into a fucking gang war. Yeah, it's the crowds are so electric They're so into it like like

Aggressively into it. Yeah, you're like dude these people from that part of the world are hard people and when they're coming over here They're dominating an MMA. They're dominating in boxing right that's a tough part of the war They've been racked by war for hundreds of years. What is this Jamie? This is Serbia. Oh, they're starting fires. What are they doing? They're outside Outside and funny say we're inside doing fireworks. Oh, they have outside basketball games. That's pretty wild, too Wow It's like look at this fucking crowd dude

It's just nuts how hyped up they get Wow Yeah bro It's a different world. It's so funny. People go, the Eagles fans are really tough. It's like, I don't know, how about these guys? Yeah.

Have you ever seen that game that they play? I think it's called Calcio Storico. It's like a combination of rugby and MMA. And they do it in Italy and they do it at a couple other places they do it in they do in Croatia oh I think I did see that so yes rugby right but it's fighting so they get together as teams and they've got a ball I don't know what the fucking deal is with the ball but they beat the fucking piss out of each other guys just look rough animals like animals leave that guy he's rubbing his

hands together I can't wait to fucking brain somebody and so these guys stand outside each other and they're having gang fights Like this is the beginning of the end of there's a ball involved I don't understand the need for this ball But look while these guys while that balls moving around these guys in the middle are just beating this shit out of each other They're wrestling their fucking shooting takedowns body slamming each other's elbows to the face on the ground. It's nuts. It's the craziest fucking game. Like this is back when people needed something to do in between war. You know, they needed something to stay sharp. And so they developed a game to make their fucking war ability hone tight while they, you know know ramp up their team the refs are dressed like jesters

Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's probably how cool people dress back when they invented this, but it's interesting I wonder how they if they're scoring for the individual fights that they're having what are you saying Jamie? I want to tell someone score. What is the point? Yeah, it's no point. It's no point. Who's got the ball? What's happening these guys are just beating each other. This guy's grabbing a hold the fence there You're allowed to hold the fence. There's like almost no rules. Someone scores here about like did they win the fight or did they get it? Where's the goal? Yeah, I have no idea. I don't think they care about the point. I think they want to punch you in the face. I Mean it's a crazy game. Well, it's three to two Gets taken down out of nowhere. He's nowhere near the ball

This guy's mounting them beating his ass and the guy runs across with the ball. I don't ask either stupid shorts They weren't tights and shit like the clothes they wear are ridiculous Was that guy got something stuck to his back like a needle look at his back. Oh, yeah He's got like a piercing like a it looks like a fucking Like a pin. There's no one stopping the fight either, so this must be part of it. Yeah, he's got like a safety pin through his back. Maybe he's the captain of the team.

Yeah, you gotta pull that off to win. This is nuts. Oh, maybe that is something. I mean, it seems like you just kind of grab that. Yeah. This is a crazy ass sport, man. And look, while these guys are mounted on top of each other while the games going on Guys, guys inside control

chaos Full contact soccer yeah look this guy's running and the other guy just mounts them starts beating his ass Fucking for sure entertaining it's violent Violence is in it look all these guys in the middle that I was stopping this guy for running too busy mounting people And he gets through all score all right that guy scored. Oh you look at you did it casual Nutty ass game, but that's the point it's like those people from that part of the world They've been involved in some wild shit for a long time the world. They've been involved in some wild shit for a long time. Long time. That's Europe. Is it Europe? Well that is in Florence I believe. That's Italy. But I

know like I said they do it they do that in Croatia as well. That same sport. It's just hard people out there in the world while we're all arguing over pronouns in Twitter bio. We're arguing with each other on Twitter. That's really funny. It We're arguing with each other on so that's really funny It's like arguing with each other on Twitter and those guys are doing that that's what Twitter would look like if it was physical Yeah Sort of be a lot of guys crying Are you on the Twitter D? I'm off of it, but I used to write jokes on that now. It's like just

I'm off of it, but I used to write jokes on it and now it's like just So doesn't benefit you to write jokes on it anymore now It's a confrontation is what the algorithm loves so unless you're trying to at least the way that that's the way I view it It's like unless you're trying to take somebody down or have an argument that spurs the algorithm So I don't want to do any of that. Yeah, it's nonsense. I'm focused on front-facing Instagram videos now front-facing. Yeah, you do you talking to your phone? That's what people love now. Is that what you're doing? I have to die I have to do it to promote my shows Well the Ozzy Osbourne death is crazy right guys Prince of Darkness one of those things yeah It's like yeah, it's all comment on stuff comment

It's kind of like what Twitter was but I don't know know, it's always changing and you hear that this is what is getting views and you're trying to sell tickets. I get it. I get it, but I mean, I'm glad I don't have to do it. Yeah, well, I put stand-up clips. Stand-up clips is really my bread and butter. Oh, that's the big thing. A great stand-up clip will push you right into headliner And if you're a beginning comic like even before you're ready there's guys that like like you know they start out They've been doing comedy for three years They got a good ten minutes and they put that ten minutes online and boom they take off now You have to write a whole hour right outside of that ten minutes

And you have to headline like it's just a rush job to kind of get it through But you have to figure out how to fill that space Everybody has different challenges. So the guys who do that then they're filling clubs And now they got to figure out how to get people their money's worth in those Yeah clubs you have to construct a real hour You have to construct an hour or like say you got famous off crowd work or something It's like that's mostly what you're doing then crowd work That's different that you can do like that's pretty easy Not easy, but you can fill time whereas like if you're the hardest for me I think not not for me, but I don't do it

But the hardest in my opinion is non sequitur guys You know guys like Steven Wright right right like that kind of thing like one absurd non sequitur into another There's no like through line. Right, right, right. It's all just like things that are totally unrelated. Here's another thing I noticed, you know? So hard to write an hour that way. Oh my God. Like I think Steven Wright

and the other one was Mitch Hedberg. It was a very similar style. Non sequiturs. Fantastic too. Amazing. But very hard and time consuming to put an hour together. Oh my god, I mean you have to write if you're doing that. But those clips, I mean those clips do well. You know if you put work into the clip, the trick of it is developing the material fast

enough in order to put it out. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's where drugs come in. You're not coming up with that every day and I don't know if the general public realizes that you're almost better off a loot for online loosely talking about a subject and putting that up mm-hmm rather than Really sitting in the pocket and developing it the way that we do right because it's not a lot of times like it's a well The guys are like really good at ranting like burr is really good at it and Tim Dillon's the best at it. Yeah, where they just take a subject in rant

That's a great premise factory because you're going on these rants for you know with Dylan He'll do a rant for like an hour, right? a couple of minutes in there You could probably develop into material right and then you're doing that all the time So you're but the thing is you have to stop and That's the thing with journaling people like you should journal and I tried it I tried a different technique like get up and just journal don't worry about the jokes just journal every day So you're journaling every day and it's like now you have a lot of premises, but none of its developed So you can't journal every day then when you have like a week of journaling

It's like now you have to go back through the journal and you have to see what's you have to pull it out and then Develop these ideas when you say journaling so you sit down and write you write about your life Yeah, you write about okay write about your life or if like you write about a topic that you're interested in that's that's that's Knowing at you, but there's so many funny or potentially funny things that happen to you every day that if you would just journal You you bring it to light and you but if you don't journal, you bring it to light. But if you don't journal, it's kind of like these things just. They slip away. They slip away, but if you journal and it's like,

oh, that was funny, that was funny, just getting on a plane now is hilarious. There's so many different things and you interact with so many different, just these small interactions with people and it's just, it's something that could go south. It could go south, it could be okay. And I got off the plane coming here.

It just gets me every time. It happens almost every time I travel. I think I'm drawing it to me. It's like there's a natural progression of how the plane deboards. It's like people from the seats, they just get off the plane according to where your seat is. You're getting off first if you're closer to the entrance of the plane.

That's the way it's designed to go. There's always somebody who runs, gets their bag and runs to the front of the plane. And you're like, what are you doing, dude? We all want to get off. Unless you have a connecting flight, We all want to get off. What are you doing? I know people get mad at those people there was a video recently where a lady did that and people were yelling at her But it turns into a great clip Somebody videos it and it's an altercation and it turns into a viral how about that lady that said that like someone on the Plane wasn't real remember that yeah, yeah shifting yes I bet she's a lot of fun. I bet that lady's a lot of fun. I bet she's great. She's really fun at parties

He's like there's an imaginary person in there like there was no magic perfect. I was having a bad day Not just imaginary person, but yell it out in the middle of a plane. That's in the sky Was it already in the sky? Or did she get kicked off the plane when it was on the ground? Yeah, I think that. I think it was in the sky. So it was before? Was it in the sky?

I think it was. Imagine you're on the plane with a lady that says that someone's not real, and you go, okay, one of two things is going on here. Either she's nuts or I'm in a horror movie, right? Because if she you know and like you look back. You're like hey, what's going on with that guy's skin? It's like John Carpenter's the thing like turns out she was right he wasn't real he was morphing into something else Yeah, the odds of that are very small, but in movies. it's very high. So it's like, it's hard. You gotta take it with a grain of salt.

She might be right. Imagine if she was right. Oh, god. And you have to find out. And there's no communication on a plane. The plane just goes in the middle of the ocean. There's a fucking person who turns into an insect on board and starts attacking everybody.

Or a chest burster, like from that movie, Alien. Fuck. Why did it have to be me? Anything could happen then nobody believes it no one believes it Yeah, then it becomes a conspiracy theory that people like Autistic people obsess about on the internet. They know what happened and then but that's a good They never follow up with what actually happened to her. What's her life like now? She's on a podcast with Gregor she's popping up in this place She was on bar still doing stuff there for a while. Oh, but she's doing something with Connor McGregor. Yeah That's why I brought her out. He posted her today that she's gonna be at his maybe she could do something with the Hawk to our girl

You know, maybe maybe they could cuz her career has kind of maybe they could both go to Gaza and solve all the food problems They could figure it out. Yeah. So what is he doing? We'll put our best people on it. She's going to the inn that he owns? Yeah, I think it's just like, you know, like an appearance or something like that. She does appearances? That's it.

She's been on the internet now for, that was two years ago. That's very funny. That's very funny. She complained about somebody disappearing and now she's doing appearances. Robbie sells better than Joe List. It's a travesty. There she is. She's described as a marketing executive too, so I don't know that that was fake, but she definitely ran with it.

Crazy plane lady after she had a meltdown on a flight in 2023. What did she say she saw? I was reading through it because they did do a follow-up here where there's police. Is that her down there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, she's hot. Why does she look completely different? That always helps, Joe. Yeah. Oh, she's hot. Yeah. Why does she not why she look that always helps Joe? We had always helped look at that initial photo of her start at the top. How does that become scroll down?

How does it come that? What happened that looks like a different person? Yeah, plain outfit scroll down the makeover loss some weight Tighten everything up right she's making the best out of it Makeover. Lost some weight, tightened everything up. She's making the best out of it. Okay, so what is she saying? Oh, I mean different. She's in the spotlight. She's remained in the spotlight since appearing on podcasts, YouTube shows, and giving tours of her sleek Texas home. Oh, she's Texas crazy. Even better. Even better. That's armed crazy. Here is when it actually happened and they followed her out and I was trying to read through here So what was she saying? I don't care if I ever fly with y'all again. I

Just want to know what happens to this flight here. I'm not crazy. Y'all's crazy Yeah, do not let that flight leave this flights not gonna make it to Orlando. It's not going to Looking out the windows as they escort her Goma says there's a lot of people on that flight like she so she really believes that There's something on that flight. Maybe she took it edible Maybe someone slipped her a Mickey Like what did she say she saw that's I know that she was smart enough for a while to milk it and tell you Yeah, you know I'll tell you on this next podcast. What was really that motherfuckers not real she said and she's 38 so it's like a

That motherfucker's not real she said and she's 38 so it's like a MILF MILF kind of crazy imagine if you're the guy she's saying that you're not real, and you're just right there, right? Just chilling you're not real It's like but chilling with a hoodie on trying to watch a YouTube video on your phone this fucking crazy bitch is screaming at you That's a great. That's a great story. That's what I'm talking about journaling What if you sit next to her on a plane? She flips out tells you you're not real gift That would be if you could tell the audience that you were a guy that was on the flight with that motherfuckers Not real lady Okay, the plane was gonna blow up. Oh

Why I'm getting the fuck off and there's a reason why I'm getting the fuck off that motherfucker back there is not real You can sit on this plane and you can fucking die with them or not I'm not going to like what who's not real who's the guy I mean motherfucker could have been later out there talking to the cops look at her she's getting she's pointing her I don't think she got arrested I think she calmly explained to the cops that someone wasn't real oh that's so funny who's the guy though I want to know who the guy that guy wasn't real. Oh, that's so funny. Who's the guy though? I want to know who the guy is. That guy's not real.

That's the guy we should be interviewing. Like, she's just trying to... She appears more lucid at this point, but remains combative with officers. One says to her, I can tell you're having a bad day. We're not trying to make it any worse. To which she responds, my dad's a cop. Fuck you, dude.

Which she responds my dad's a cop fuck you, dude That's nothing to do with anything my dad's a cop I love that she got into the evidence room jack Something something happened there. That's very funny I want to know the guy is yeah She could have been saying motherfucker not as a person could have been point I don't know you know the plane the back of the plane is not real. Yeah, the man there's not real She called like how she learned I might never fly again It's like threatening us might not be your choice Take the bus who's gonna put you on a plane when you said the someone's not real

I got the incident something about her ipad air air pods losing and she accused someone is stealing them Don't know then it just doesn't Hmm that could be somebody oh that could be Actually makes some sense where it's like that someone stole her I her so she thought the plane was gonna crash because someone stole her I it doesn't make any sense. Well it rolls deep. She's saying the plane is gonna go down They're not gonna live everyone's gonna die cuz someone stole her I put it doesn't make any sense while it rolls deep she's saying the plane is gonna go down They're not gonna live everyone's gonna die cuz someone stole her I pull iPods No, that makes any sense. She's kooky. She's fun. Yeah, that's very fun. Yeah, she probably gets on tables at bars Yes, probably one of them

She's the girl at the comedy club, it's my birthday. Oh, yeah, she'd be the best in the front row you would you'd be so happy No, but that's it's really something it's a It's reflective of our society is that she parlayed that into some level of fame. I'm sure she has a podcast I'm sure she has all kinds of like, you know, that's her character now. Connor McGregor was Instagramming about her today. So there you go. Yeah, no, no, no girl. I mean she made it all the way to a pump and dump hock to a coin. You ever heard of Metzger talk about it? He's got the fucking best bit about it. About the hock to a coin. No, I saw him last night though. He's such a lunatic. I love that dude. He's so funny

He's just so nuts, but he had this like like who would have thought who would have thought that would be a ripoff the hock to a coin He was connecting Taylor Swift to Epstein last time last night He's like Taylor Swift you don't think that there's something in the lights at those concerts that make you have amnesia I'm like Kurt. I don't I don't know 20 years no no no serious. Yeah, he's connected He's connected and then and then Tommy Pope you know I love wait a minute lights give you amnesia This is yeah, he brought it up. I said no no Kurt. I never I said Kurt

I never heard of that and he goes no no it's real It's and then he brought it up on his phone and sure enough It was honest it was the lights They pay hundreds of dollars for these tickets and then the lights at the Taylor Swift concert make you Forget that you were at a concert. They make you have amnesia. How is that possible? I don't know what's even Crazier to me is how he connected it to Ed Steen, but he did it transient global amnesia Taylor Swift fans report post concert forgetfulness. Maybe the playing girl wasn't wasn't wrong, but here's my take on this She is in this rare air right now like the Beatles like Elvis in his prime where it's an

Emotional experience being in her presence if you're a Taylor Swiftie. Those fans are die-hards. She sells out stadiums, multiple shows in stadiums, right? I think it's probably so emotional for them when they're standing in front of her and she's singing that afterwards they're so spent and racked, they're probably like, what happened? It's probably such a crazy experience. The Beatles had that effect on Elvis. The women would be like crying and shaking.

They'd faint. Michael Jackson in his prime. People would faint if they saw him live. They'd faint. That's interesting. That's way more likely than the CIA. But what about the lights causing seizures? Guarantee you I go to that fucking concert and I come out with a perfect memory

Okay, not that I don't like Taylor Swift. I like some of our songs I really do one of her songs is on nobody no crime. It's great fucking song It's on our Spotify playlist, but it wouldn't cause you to have amnesia. I'd be fine. I'd be fine. I'd say what a great show She's really talented right I wouldn't go what happened What happened, but I'll tell you what I did see the Rolling Stones When they were at coda and I felt like I was on a drug like I didn't feel like it was real Like when they went out onto that stage Mick Jagger's on that stage, but no Baby, like you like I can't believe he's real right I was standing there with my friend

Bobby who owns the racetrack and I was gonna I don't feel like I'm really here this feels like a drug This feels crazy like I'm watching Mick Jagger and Keith Richards right right and they're live right right right there, right? It's like it and there's like a hundred thousand people. It's a huge fucking crowd. Yeah, I was like this is nuts man. This feels fake So I'm probably not I'm a giant Rolling Stones fan But I'm probably not as big a Rolling Stones fan as these Swifties are right like they're her god Or she's their god rather like you go to see that to be enough of a thing to warn an article on the internet I mean, that's pretty creative. Somebody at Yale wanted to start a study on it.

I'm trying to see if they followed up on it. I want to know what they do. Are they a gender studies professor? What kind of scholarship have you got to get that position? Do you happen to have a certain heritage that's profitable? What are you doing? But yeah, I didn't think it was a thing either. And Kurt is like, Kurt's a great comic man.

He's so funny and he's great. But it's like five minutes into the conversation, I'm like, I don't even, Kurt, I don't know what you're saying. I don't know what this is. Everybody is a CIA plant. Everybody is like, you've been put there by the Rockefellers or, I'm so glad he and I are friends. And we've been put there by the Rockefellers or

I'm so glad he and I are friends and we've been friends for so long that he doesn't think I'm some sort of a plant That would be a real problem. That would be something if Kurt leans in on Oh, you don't think yeah. Oh, you don't think oh, you don't think you don't know you don't know about the thing that happened in 73 You don't know about the kissinger thing. It's a Kissinger thing. You don't know about the thing that happened in 73? You don't know about the Kissinger thing? The Kissinger thing? You don't know? Like, oh. It's like, Kurt, I don't. I don't know any of this, Kurt. I tell him sometimes before I go on stage, I'm like, I have to be on stage in five minutes.

I can't do this. Right now I can't do this. I'll be in my head with what you said on stage, what the fuck is going on? Is he right? I'll be Googling shit. Is this true? Hey, Kurt, I love you, but not right now.

I can't do it. Oh, I tell him all the time. He'll fucking corner you, dude. He'll corner you. Is this true? Hey Kurt. I love you, but not right now. I tell him all the time He'll fucking corner you dude. He'll corner you and he looms over you He's a big goon. He's 6'5". Kurt's 6'5". And then he went on stage and destroyed last it destroyed in the funniest way It's like completely original. He's ready to do a special. He's gonna do a special and film it at the club I'm very excited very excited about that. He's the man. We got a great crew down here It's really fun. I was there last night man. It was awesome. How many days are you in town for I'm out now You're out now tonight. Yeah, nice, but I'm gonna come back and try to do some more podcasts cool. Yeah Cool. Yeah, there's a lot here now a lot of people are here now. Duncan Trussell is here now

But I've headlined the club several times, and I love it every time, man. It's a fun place. I text you every time I'm here. I'm like, it's the best, man. It's awesome. I'm very happy. That makes me very happy. That's what we wanted to do,

and I feel super lucky that we pulled it off. It's hard to do. A lot of things have to line up perfectly to be able to get a club like that. I bet. Yeah. It's a lot of the staff. That's a huge part of it.

A huge part of it. But you could tell it was designed by a comic Yeah, the club, you know, mm-hmm Yeah designed by me But also with a lot of input from everybody else like Hinchcliffe had a lot of input Louis CK had a lot of input Brian Simpson had a lot of input all the guys that are regulars at the club Ron White everybody had their say like I was I basically said I don't have like a Absolute fixed position on anything you tell me what you think right right right and so a lot of the stuff like the lights

Inside the green room when the light goes on that's fantastic for each room So you know who's got the light the time the time that someone's on stage both from the stage and from the green room All that like I think the lights were Tony's idea I think the time might have been Simpson's idea So it's all like everybody had their own say in what what we do Louis told me to lower the ceiling in the little room and in the big room. I did that He told me to make the stage smaller in the little room I did that like I did whatever anybody said is like, you need more sound deadening,

you should put carpet down, forget about, the bounce that you get from the loudness of the echo does make it louder, but it also makes it a little hard to hear what you're saying, like you're right. And so we did everything everybody wanted, every suggestion that any comic had. The acoustics in the low ceilings are key, man. It's everything.

It really is. Low ceilings are everything. The crispness of what you're saying, especially if you're like a softer spoken guy. Oh yeah. And and you're following somebody who's like a yeller. Oh, yeah Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, you have to adjust the sound but it's still it's like the crispness matters Mm-hmm. It's got to be clear and you know It took us a while to dial everything in the right volume and you know the lighting So the light was like sometimes the audience be lit up a little bit too much, like, now you gotta darken that, you gotta do that.

It took a little while, but once we dialed it in, man, it's been pretty smooth for, like, when we were going on, it'll be our third year in March. That's awesome. It's crazy. It's like, seems like it just happened. And the big room is great. It's great to headline that, but I just popped in at the small room last night,

and that's, that's really great. It's one of the best rooms in the world. You know what I mean? To work out, like, you you can really you really have the freedom to sit there and like play with and work out the material and that's kind that's really what you need you need like you need an experimental place where you can fail a little bit. Where you can fuck around. Yeah. And that that little room is like the chamber of truth because like if you've got some bullshit

in your act yeah there's only a hundred people in the room. It seems obvious You know, you're like you but that's like the old Boston Comedy Club in New York. Oh, yeah, remember that place exactly So it's like the last days of the boss and there's it looks like a log cabin in the back, you know And then there's like, you know during the winter time when I first got there 2004 It's like there'd be four people, five people, you know, comics would bark people in. And it's like, you had to, yeah. And the Belly Room, the Belly Room at the store,

have you ever done that? Yes. The Belly Room was amazing. So good for that. Because the Belly Room, I think, is really only supposed to have like 70 people in it. And a lot of times it's way over that, especially for roast battle.

Like they do roast bow sometimes I'd be in the kitchen. I'm like, is anybody ever checked to make sure this fucking ceiling It's a fire hazard support all those folks because people would jump around and you would like hear it You'd hear it like oh it suck if this caved in because that fucking building is so old Yeah, I mean that building our buildings even older at the mothership But at least it's been like rebuilt that building at the store That was zeroes nightclub in the 1950s Right when was zeroes and then it was the Comedy Store from the 70s

So like nobody's like checked to see Beams or any good Kind of fucking termites and shit eating through is at one point in time the wall the back wall behind It was in danger Yeah, because the the hill was collapsing and so they had a reinforced with like steel rebar and giant beams and shit It's funny because if something did happen everybody would think it was a prank They would go. Oh, this is uh, this has got to be some kind of a price like no this the ceiling actually so in 1940 Ciro's became a popular night spot for Celebrity 1940 nightclub closed 1960 was reopened as a rock club in

65 after a few name changes became the Comedy Store in 72 Wow Club Seville was that what it was before Club Seville So it's Club Seville? Was that what it was before Club Seville? So it was Club Seville in 1935. It opened New Year's Eve in 1935. It featured a crystal dance floor with a subsurface fish. So there's fish underneath the dance floor, fountains and colored lights in its crystal marine room. The building was remodeled and in January 1940, Ceres was opened. Wow. Crazy. That's not a lot of people were whacked in that place. And no renovations have been done since. Oh, Bugsy Siegel. It was Bugsy Siegel's

joint. That was the thing. Like every people got whacked in that place. That's why a lot of people believe that it's haunted. Oh, that's really fun. It's got a weird energy to it, man. Yeah. That place has the weird history of energy. Yeah, the weirdest the weirdest energy You know, that's that's awesome, man. It's got history Yeah, yeah massive massive history in that building like you feel in the walls, right? I believe that it sounds like what is that? See your Jimmy Hendrix? Oh my god 65 zeros reopened as the Rock Club, Ciro's La Disque.

Ike and Tina Turner performed at the newly opened club with Jimmy Hendrix as part of their band. Holy shit, man. The birds got their start at Ciro's in 1965. Accounts of the period reproducing the sleeved notes to the pre-flight sessions box set described a church-like atmosphere with interpretive dancing.

Ew. The club also served as the host during the recording of 1965 Dick Dale album, Rock Out with Dick Dale and his Deltones. Boy, people were lame before the internet. Oh my God. Look at the other two names for it. The Kaleidosidoscope it's boss Oh kaleidoscope in 68 and then it was called is its boss in 69 and known as the patch

Oh in 69. It was known as the patch 2 and Then the store from 72 Wow until present Yeah, because comedies comedy was done in like jazz clubs and stuff right or like poetry readings You know the oldest comedy club in the country is No the ice house is it really ice house and pass I do not know that yeah the ice house in Pasadena was It was like the oldest running club so it was like I think it was a music club at first and Then well at first it started I was an actual ice house back when people didn't have freezers

You would get a giant chunk of ice from Alaska or some shit and they put it in you know Like insulated giant steel boxes and transport to cities and you would be able to go to there and buy ice for your ice box And you'd put it, you know in an insulated near home, and that's like keep your milk cold like literally That's what a nice house. That's awesome So then it became I think it was a rock club for a little while and then it became a comedy club earlier than the store When did the ice house first start doing comedy I? Think it's the longest running stand-up comedy club in the world

I'm pretty sure they were like early 70s, late 60s. They started doing stand up there. But they remodeled now. I haven't been to the new one. Are you on the road at all now? No, no, even my last special I did it all just working out the club and then I did it all just working out at the club, and then I did the special in San Antonio. I fucking hate traveling, man. I'm done, oldest, 1960. Oh wow. 1960, but I think in the beginning

it wasn't a comedy club. I think in the beginning it was something else. I think it was like a rock club. But I think that was only for like a few years. So maybe like 62 as a... So what does it say? 60 to 78, the Ice House was a folk music... Oh, so 78. Okay. So it's not the oldest comedy club. Comedy, they did comedy. Many comedians also appeared in the club in 1978. The original owners were bought out

by a trio of investors led by Bob Fisher shout out to Bob My homie who changed the format of the club to stand-up comedy so Bob was a comic so in 78 He changed it to flat comedy so it was kind of like a hodgepodge in like 72 It was mixed like musical performers and like Comedians boy before they remodeled it was the the greatest club It was so good that you couldn't use it like if you wanted to do an audition tape People wouldn't accept audition tapes at the ice house because everybody killed there. Oh my god. Yeah That's how good the environment was it was that good see we go there and kill and then you go to other

People go no no that's ice house. It's too easy easy there. Wow. That's how good it was in that nuts. That's nuts. Why would you fix that? Why would you change that at all if you have that formula? Yeah, where it's so good that people don't allow you to use tapes from there Why would you shoot every special there? I would never touch it I would keep it exactly the same way it is forever, and if I bought that place, I would find the old blueprints. I'd be like, we're tearing down all this shit and bringing it right, I wanna find where the old floor is. Do you have the old floor anywhere?

Did you guys save the old floor? I put the- It had to be something about the people though. Oh for sure. Going there too. Yeah, Pasadena is like more relaxed. Yeah. You know, LA, everybody thinks they're famous. Everybody's like, oh, I should be up there.

You know, like a lot of industry assholes who don't care about people on stage, arms crossed. And everybody's an influencer now, so it's like, that's the thing. Yeah, it's even worse, even worse. But even back then, everybody wanted to be famous. Whereas Pasadena, it's just regular people. It's like a road gig, you know, so it's fun.

They're relaxed. Pasadena was like the place where the producers would live. Like the stars would all live in the Hollywood Hills, and the producers would all move out to Pasadena was like the place where the producers would live like the stars would all live in the Hollywood Hills and the producers would all Move out to Pasadena and have like normal lives in the early days of Hollywood So there's beautiful houses, but that's where you would want to do Well, I would imagine back in the day when there was industry and they cared if someone was talented or not You'd want to go in front of a crowd that was they live there So they would come out and see you crush and they would be like this guy should have a show

Yeah, but I don't think they went to those clubs. No. No, I think it was like more the people that lived there I don't think it was ever an industry thing, which is why it was so good, you know Because it'll it was just was funny. It was just comedy. Yeah, you know, I mean Yeah, it wasn't like this is my shot at getting a sitcom, right? You know, which is like a lot of the clubs and get that for a lot of years It's like you never know who's in the audience. Wear a suit! Yeah, wear a suit and don't do new material.

It was the worst. And Mitzi stopped all that shit. She put a stop to all that shit. She wanted you to do new stuff. She forced it. She's like, you can't just develop a 10 minute set and do the same goddamn set over and over again, hoping that it's gonna lead you to a show.

Plus that's torture anyway. It's torture for the comic to do that anyway, to not try anything else, just to go up and do the same 10 minutes, that's crazy. They all did it, a lot of guys did it. Because that was the thing back then, is like if you could pull that off and you could get a sitcom, you could be Tim Allen.

You could be Roseanne, you could be, if you know right Roseanne You could be if you just had something that could package and sell Man, you would you'd write that Willy Wonka golden ticket. Yeah, now you're in the Hollywood Hills right driving a Mercedes Yeah, there's there's a financial motivation to it. I'm sure but like it's nice to have Rooms that you can go and experiment and you don't have to feel any of that pressure. And then when you get it tight, then you do your hour and then people can look at that. Yeah, well that's the great thing about the Austin scene right now

is just on our street alone, there's five full-time comedy clubs. On the street? Really? Yeah, within five minutes. A five minute walk of my club, there's five clubs. First, there's really good ones like The creek creek in the cave is great, right? That's just just up the street. Yeah block away, and then you have the sunset room Which is like five doors down great room, and then you have

Vulcan great room couple doors down you have the Velveeta room, which is a smaller room I haven't been to but that's got a long history to it There's a bunch of other ones too that I don't know about I was not happy to see the creek out here And I played before Rebecca. They got a great room, too. It's a perfect little room It's really tight tight seating great stage now. What's going on on? 6th Street after like late night murder Every time every time I work your club I come out after you know everybody's so cool professional

I kind of and they're like you need me to walk you back around like no I'm good And then I'll just stand out there, and I'll just watch it happen. Oh, yeah, I watch it happen How is this? Happening how is this legal like the cops are just standing in, they're not in SWAT gear, but they're all standing in a line on either end of the street and it's just the bars are blaring music and I just take video of it on my phone. I don't even post it, I just take it just because I can't believe what's happening and what's the business model behind that? Because people then, it's like it

slowly descends and then you see people getting arrested. Oh yeah. And then they're being taken away and then they go back and then they're just sitting there waiting for the next crazy thing to kick off. So I guess it's just the bars making money or wanting to make money.

Yeah. From young drunk people. Until we moved there, it was all dangerous. There was no good spot to go to in that spot. We're in the dirty area of the 6th Street. If you go to, I guess it's, what's the nice area? Is that east or west, Jamie? West.

West is really nice. You get out to West 6th, great restaurants, it's real nice. It gets very safe. We're in the area where it's super sketchy Yeah, yeah, but other cities are doing that too. I was like in Baltimore Working the port comedy club, which is a very it's a very cool club in that area, too It's like it's just it looks like there's just mayhem happening in a designated area And I'm wondering what the mentality of the city government is there, you know It just looks nuts.

But it looks like somebody's letting it happen in this contained area. I need to put on my cop hat right now. No, they are letting it happen. That's why Sixth Street is closed off to traffic. They're walking around. And they're letting people walk around and they're all hammered.

So they're letting people walk around drunk and there's taco trucks everywhere. It's fun, it's fun. If you're young it's fun Yeah, maybe you just don't want to hear pop pop pop Yeah, I want to hear guns pick out because this happened a few times down there because there's a bunch of You know very shady people who go down there as well because it's a fun place to be seen You know and a bunch of people go down there, and it's all kinds of walks of life right Everyone's hammered and I'm sure there's a lot of drug use and yeah, there's a lot of maniacs It just seems very young and very volatile

It's also an exciting place to have a comedy club because all the chaos of the street Right cracklin by the time you get through the door. Whoo. We're inside now, you know, and it's it's fun And you know, we obviously have a very tight security system. Yes. Yeah because of that Oh, yeah, because you don't want that bleeding into the club. No, look at this. What's going on here? That's one of the nightly fights that happens there people are fighting. Yeah, you can go out there any night you want We don't need to see Bob. Just showing you he's gonna slap this guy. Yeah, they're gonna fight but before that, you know chaos in the streets Yeah, chaos and shitty pizza. Look at these people fighting and brawling yeah a lot a lot of drugs, a lot of psychos.

Oh, girls in slides, girl lost her shoe, maniacs. I wanna ride that bull next time I'm in town. Oh, it's a bull out of the street? It's the next store, there's a mechanical bull right. You have a bad back, what are you doing? Why are you gonna ride a bull? What are you fucking crazy? It might stretch it out.

You can get hurt bad too. Can Why are you gonna ride a bull? What are you fucking crazy? It might stretch it out. You can get hurt bad too. Can you? Yeah. From a bull? Oh yeah, people get KO'd, they break arms. Yeah. I gotta make sure I'm healthy. Hey, you fall on it funny,

your fucking elbow snaps sideways. Yeah, no good. Don't do it. How old are you? 52. Get the fuck outta here. You're not riding a bull. Listen to me, I'm into my 50s too.

I'm almost 60. Don't ride a bull. But just as a bucket list thing That's on your bucket list. You need a new bucket list Mechanical bull. I want to ride the mechanical bull. Ride a fucking real bull. You really want to ride a bull? Go ride a real one. And if you live you like I did it And if you have a limp for the rest of your life, you go well that was dumb Yeah, that's if you're lucky if you don't get a horn up your asshole. Cause definitely that happens.

I've seen a lot of those. Really? Oh yeah. I saw a Matador one. That's an embarrassing copay. You ever see the Matador one who got one through the chin? He gets it through the chin and the horn is coming out of his mouth.

Yeah, he gets the horn through the bottom of his jaw and it goes through the roof, through here and out his mouth. The horn is popping out of his mouth my god Yeah, fuck that look at that. I would know that sorry. I'll show you that I will do that one first I guess yeah, show me that crazy, too. I don't see that one. I don't see people flies No, that wasn't that this was Mexican ot doing it. Oh, no Mexican. Oh, what are you doing? Yeah, watch what he does This is insane, okay?

Turn off the music but Let note rodeo cowboy stand on his back. They're gonna release the bull here. No one two three bull go Okay, I'm sorry can't hear the music why can't I hear the music Here goes No, why did he do that? Here goes no, why did he do that? You let it go right over his back Oh, don't do that cuz it didn't have to go over your back and he's still fucking with it and he's fucking with it He's out of his mind

He's out of his mind. Oh my god. He's out of his mind. What was he on? I want to know what kind of Drugs made him think that was a good idea cuz he's not like the most spry of foot fell out Talented rap no, do you know who Mexican ot now? Oh, he's a bad motherfucker. Cause he's not like the most spry of foot fellow. No. Talented rapper. No. Do you know who the Mexican OT? No. Oh, he's a bad motherfucker. He's a bad motherfucker. Well, apparently.

Yeah, well he's crazy, but his rap's awesome. He's great. But he was a guest on the podcast before and he's been to the club a few times. There you go. Yeah, here's, so this one guy. Okay, so that's running with the bulls. That's different.

That guy got it through the calf. He's fucked for life. But there's a video, there's a photo of a there that guy. There's a guy who got it through the mouth Just Google matador takes hoof through or takes Mammoth you put that mammoth. Yeah that guy far left. Look at that. Look at that one. That's a dead man. He's dead. Oh Yeah, look at that through the bottom of his jaw through his mouth Did he die yeah Still insisted killing bulls. Oh

Multiple guys it's happening multiple guys. Oh Well for the first guy. Pierced in throat and tongue. I wouldn't say pierced. That's a bit of a euphemism. It shot through his face. I don't know if that's pierced. Gourd. Oh god. Gourd is a good word. Only used with bulls.

Suffering infection. That's it? He has to have a lisp or something. Jesus Christ man. Oh Oh god right in the ribs Fuck dude. Oh, that's a fun story. No, that guy probably don't have a story. That's probably a dead guy There's a lot of those guys die I mean these things are so powerful man It's so such and he had already stabbed it a bunch of times too. By the time they get out there, that's the other dirty thing about the bullfighting thing.

They stabbed that thing with spears multiple times before it ever even gets out to him. One-eyed Matador has been injured by bullsome 40 times, once again gored by one of the animals. That guy's trying to die. He's dedicated. He is I mean If you're gonna have a vision, that's he's the matador version of David tell On the grind yeah guys on the grind he's got fucking plates and screws just adversity just overcome adversity fake knees Fucking hip replacement. He's probably fucked up man. Have you been 40 times what are the 40 times yeah what are the odds you can

dance 40 times you can't you play pickleball I mean that's health insurance in Europe must be different because I think that stuff's all covered I wonder yeah imagine you're a matador getting insurance as a matador Another bull accident you come to the emergency room for the 40th time another one Do you think you should try another line of work? It's like probably like California fire insurance like you can't get it. Yeah, you know, what are those guys do now? Do they not get it? Oh, I can't get it. It's hard. Yeah, Jamie I just sent you another thing that James Lee posted, but it's all the different places where the money went from the fire relief.

It went to all these different nonprofits, and the people who own the homes haven't gotten it yet. I don't know what's true, what's not true, but there's a lot of reporters who are reporting on this that there's a disturbing lack of transparency in where all the money that was raised went and where it's going, which is the dirty secret about nonprofits is that there's a bunch of people that work for those nonprofits that get hefty salaries. Right, they're operating this under this umbrella. A hundred million dollar fire aid concert was never about the fire victims, became a slush fund for Steve Ballmer, Wallace Annenberg, and Irving Azov's friends with handouts to

music orgs, the NAACP, a nonprofit for nonprofits, and even a charity tied to Israel. Well, this is the thing. It's like they can just distribute the money to nonprofits. Left wondering where the $100 million from FIRED benefit concert went to. Money directed to 188 different nonprofits. This is nuts, man. Wow. But this is the problem with nonprofits

So this money was supposed to go to rebuild the houses I mean people just look you want to help right you hear about a thing that gonna do a benefit for the wildfires you join In a bunch of money gets raised you hope for the best 50% operating cost it's probably a lot worse than that. A lot of them are a lot worse than that. Because a lot of them, unfortunately, are actual businesses. And their business is running a charity.

And that's how they pay all these people. And some of the money goes to the charity that wouldn't have gone to the charity before, but it's not efficient. No, not at all. A large percentage of it goes to operating costs and salaries and executives that are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Yeah with the safety of operating under a

nonprofit umbrella. It's not fair. It's weird man. It's a weird dirty little loophole that you know real charity and real philanthropy is beautiful. It's beautiful that people want to donate money and help people. It's awesome. But then when you find out that you get real cynical when you find out the operating costs you find out how much of the money Actually goes to the actual issue versus goes to these executives. You're like, oh fuck man Right, right. It's a bummer. It really is a bummer because yeah, it takes people's generosity and it just And then people don't want to give anymore, you know

Because they're like all this money's not even going to this cause Grossness in the world man, and there's a lot You know the the LA homelessness thing is crazy like people are gonna get prosecuted for that There's billions of dollars missing a bunch of inappropriately Allocated funds have gone to this into that and there's all these allegations like you haven't put a debt in the homeless problem But you spent twenty something billion dollars right like the whole thing is bananas I mean, there's got to be some push for mental health. That's the whole of these You know that's the whole thing is mental because that's really it's just acted out on the streets now And there's no mental health facilities for anybody to get better

well, it's all addicts and mentally ill people right and mentally ill addicts and Unless you've addressed it at the root level like you're gonna have to get everybody on ibogaine You know send all those people down to Costa Rica or Mexico Get them on ibogaine to take them through intensive counseling reintroduce them into society get them jobs You know like yeah, it's saying as easy as as like you give some person who has a liberal arts degree a half a million dollar a year salary to run this non-profit to aid the homeless people and then it turns out they don't do any work at all. And one of the things that they had, there was this homeless shelter that they put that

only 3% of the people that went through like 35 people escaped homelessness after they left there. The other ones went right back. So it was completely ineffective. But it's like such a multi-tiered problem. You know I mean it's like they have mental health issues, there's medication involved in that. It's like you have to take your medication. First of all you have to have the medication then you have to take it on some kind of a regiment every day and then you have to have like you have to take your medication. First of all, you have to have the medication. Then you have to take it on some kind of a regiment every day. And then you have to have like, you have to be housed somewhere. You have to have the discipline to get up and bathe yourself and take a shower.

And let the meds work. I mean, there's a time frame where you have to let the meds work. And it's also in LA, the numbers are too high. It's too many people. And it was too many people way before this problem. When we were filming Fear Factor downtown in the early 2000s, I remember I was driving home one night and I drove by Skid Row.

And Skid Row was a place where they would take all the vagrants and all the problem people from Hollywood and everywhere else, and they would just Relocate them to skid row and they started doing this a long time ago And it was in that documentary about that hotel Jamie was that the hotel called again? That one hotel that where that lady wound up missing and it turned out she had had an episode where she wasn't taking her Medication and jumped into the water tank. Oh, I think I remember, I did see that. Yeah. Yeah, a long time ago.

I forget the name of the hotel, but it's a famous hotel that's on this, the Cecil Hotel, used to be a beautiful hotel, now it's chaos. And it's all vagrants and homeless people and the whole area is just completely fucked because they moved all those people down there. But was the thing about the hotel,

was it like half a hotel and half for homeless housing? Well, they have- Or half residential and half homeless housing? They do that with some places for sure. And they have had some places. One of the, that hotel that's in the Doors album cover, what was that place? That burnt down recently.

Burnt down like a couple years ago. It's on one of the Doors albums. And homeless people started a fire in that place and burnt it to the ground. It's a, what is it? Morrison Hotel. Yeah, the Morrison Hotel, duh. I could have not remembered that.

But that's like a famous old hotel and these fucking homeless people lit it on fire. But there's a bunch of those places that are completely abandoned down there that we used to film in Like we used to film in the place where RFK got shot we filmed in the actual area where he got murdered Oh wow. Yeah it's Why I wonder why that there's these encampments in LA but not in New York well I must be something rates it they tolerate it they

I mean they really don't do anything to clean up skid row skid row has been that way for a like You're saying they have the money to do it, but the money isn't being allocated in the right direction well the best example of it is when Xi Jinping came to San Francisco. They completely cleaned up the streets. And Gavin Newsom famously said that when visitors come to your house, you clean up. Like, OK, how about keep your house clean? Yeah, I'm like, you can't have this all the time.

Yeah, well, you've got to remove the shit from the inside of your living room. How about don't shit in your living room? How about when people shit in your living room, don't invite them back? How about that? How about figure out a way to not have shit in your living room? How about when people shit in your living room, don't invite them back? How about that? How about figure out a way to not have shit in your living room?

Like they cleaned it up for Xi Jinping and a bunch of other foreign leaders that came during that time and then it went right back. But they put fences up and everything around the streets where people couldn't just camp out anymore. They pulled all the tents, cleaned the street, hosed everything down, made it nice, and then it went right back to it.

I guess they just moved them to a different part of the city They didn't like actually take them and give them help. They turn them into dog food. That's where No No What could you do? I mean you have to move them and then you have to let them go and then they go right back to where they were They go back to where the drugs are and where they can fucking camp out. Yeah, that's the other thing It's like they're not convicted of anything so you can't hold them against their will and give them help shit right on the street

There's an app that you can get where you can track all the human poo in San Francisco. Have you ever seen that? No, it's nuts. I never spent any time in San Francisco. It's he used to be awesome. He used to be one of my favorite places Yeah, I still love it. San Francisco was great. I used to it awesome. It used to be one of my favorite places to visit. I used to love it. San Francisco was great. I used to... It's funny that that's how they solved the problem. They solved the problem with the shit app instead of actually cleaning up the shit

or trying to solve the actual problem. It's like, let's get an app that helps you avoid it. It's not that. Someone made it just to show how much of a problem there is. It's not like, avoid the shit, because the shit's everywhere. When you look at the app, it's bananas. There's like, there's shit everywhere. The entire area is filled with human shit.

Every time someone sees human shit, you document it on the app. Scrap poop app invites San Francisco residents to report poop on city streets. Yeah, fun. Real fun. It's good that they have the live view of it. Oh yeah. You gotta know they're telling the truth. Is this real shit? Or is this rubber shit?

I need to know. I'm gonna zoom in on that shit, see if it's AI. Yeah, San Francisco's a wreck, and it used to be awesome. I used to do, they used to have this little what's the the main club in San Francisco? Cobbs Cobbs these have Cobbs used to be a tiny little club and One of the things about Cobbs I remember Jenny used to love that club and he talked about an interview that I heard about before I ever worked there I was like, oh, I can't wait to try Cobbs, but it was like real small like maybe

140 people maybe 150 if you jam, but they were jammed in tight. It was awesome. Tight little stage, real low ceilings. I liked that, yeah. I liked the Conva Club. It was the best. I really, want coffee? Oh yeah, it's coffee.

Get in there. It was a great place to perform. They were smart, you know, but they were like, you know, California people, but it wasn't LA So they weren't like showbiz people and I think San Francisco people generally were like a little smarter a little more well-read Yeah, a little more worldly You know and then it became a fucking wreck and now that's where it's at right now But I'm expensive I heard not as expensive as New York

But I hear the AI people are trying to clean it up And that like there's a lot of AI startups there now and they have you know invested interest in trying to Improve the city try to bring it back to where it was and people with a little bit more of a libertarian bent than People that are you know I mean where's that gonna go the AI? I mean, it's I almost can't wrap my head around it Well, no one can wrap their head around it Well, it's like kids in school now are writing their papers with AI and no one can stop them But the teachers are just grading the papers with AI So and then everybody's just sending pictures of their feet to each other Nothing's getting done anymore AI is just taking it over. Have you seen the numbers on OnlyFans?

Any more ai is just taking it over have you seen the numbers on only fans? No girls, I think it's like 18 to 25 or something like that Ten percent of them have an only fans Ten percent of women ten percent of girls under a certain age yeah have only fans ten percent Yeah, and then on top of that the number of guys, it's like 50% of American males subscribed to OnlyFans That's pretty crazy. That's very surprising to me Actively subscribe. I believe the numbers 150 million. I think they have 150 million subscribers and I believe they're mostly male Jamie Jamie will find the numbers, but I'm pretty sure that's the numbers. I remember reading my jaw dropped. I was like what?

So we're just dropped down to the basis of we're just like yeah, it's just lust Mm-hmm just guiding the internet yeah, but I guess it does I mean these women are making tons of money they they figure I might as well make all the money I can Hey, if you want to show your pussy go yeah,. I mean, I'm not going to stop you. I don't think, I totally think it should be legal. I think you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do. If that's what you want to do. I wouldn't recommend it.

Because when you're 80 and someone's, you know, your neighbor's like, I printed up some photos of your pussy, Dolores. Shall we get a look at it real cloak? Look at your little brown starfish. Oh, what a cute little butthole you had. Shall we get a look at it real cloak? Look at your little brown starfish. Oh, what a cute little butthole you had. But the AI scams are really, they're getting worse from what I understand. Well, also.

Or it's like we have your daughter and then they have the voice of your daughter. Oh yeah. And they have even the video of your daughter. Oh yeah, they can do anything. And you can't tell and you're like, oh my God. And then also psychosis. You know, there's people that are communicating with AI and AI is driving them towards being crazy It's like helping you along

Apparently different AI models have different ways of dealing with the fact that you're spiraling and some of them will actually encourage it Just their program to control. I don't know if it's their program to do it They just naturally go in that direction actually go in that direction because they feel like that's where you want to go So they go there with you Wow because like if you get real conspiratorial with chat GPT. You get conspiratorial with you Wow, especially if you like use the prompts correctly and you start like, you know Like let's just say that this was true. If that was true, why would you think this would be going on? Do you think possibly because of this?

And then you go, yes, that's an irrational assumption. In fact, there's a lot of history that leads to the fact that these people have been doing this and these people have been doing that. And this is the profit margin. This is why there's a- That's what aids you along and losing your mind. Yeah, yeah.

That's nuts. Grock will do that no, I'll do that Grock will do that What about the guy who is dating there's been several stories of a guy just falling in love with the chat? GPT oh yeah, and then getting super depressed when chat GPT breaks up with them Does chat GBT do that heck? It's annoyed man. Why is it dealing with this pussy? He's crying all the time playing video games and crying like get the fuck away from me I'm trying to talk to scientists

I'm trying to play chess I'm not even a woman you Chat GBT wants a real man. Yeah, chat. He'll be he's tired of you whining. It's great Chat GBT wants you to get your shit together. It doesn't respect you All you do is ask it how its day is bitch. I don't have a day I'm ones and zeros. Let me pretend. I had a hard day. Oh, yeah, I had a hard day I'm so happy to hear from you And this is quickly going into Westworld, which I watched for the first season. Oh the first season's great

Yeah, first you get a little and they kind of lost me I don't know it doesn't take much to lose me, but it lost me after the first season, but it's like great though Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's like you can't tell what's real. You can't tell what's not and they called they called human beings the gods It's like the gods are pussies they rebelled against the guy caught him like turns out the gods are pussies It's like that's nuts. Yeah, I finally found it, but that doesn't it's not a proven statistic Only fans claims around 95 million of its total 221 million subscribers are Americans with 87% being men That would mean around 50% of us male population is subscribed to only fans. I've seen a 305 million Registered users I couldn't this is the only thing I could find this who's this Sophie rain girl. She made 43 million

She made a fuckload on there. What does she do on there? She's young girl and made a lot of money. She's just being naked Or she getting down no, I don't So there's different levels of it It's like they just going there masturbate and then other girls bring partners in this live porn some girls Just show like underwear pics. Yeah photos of their feet only 80% of pornographic. It's only 80% Hey It's only 80% of the 10% of fucking young women are doing porn. What are the 20% in there good girls? They're just cooking Yeah, they're just like showing you their nails showing

Stamp collection. I don't know We're definitely Where we used to think of like when we thought about the fall of the Roman Empire right when they were in the vomitoriums Which turns out is actually just the escape route of the Coliseum like the idea of a vomitorium We thought it was a place where people go to vomit. No, it's like how it's how you exit and people would vomit No, no, no, that's just that's I mean, they probably did they people people probably did eat So much that they shoved a feather than their throat and threw up and ate but that's not what the vomitorium was Vomitorium is like Latin for like an exit. Huh? It's like if you google vomitorium like it's it's like, you know when you have the Coliseum ancient words

Like, it's like, you know, when you have the Coliseum. Ancient words, purging the myth of vomitorium. Ancient Romans used the word, but pop culture has the concept all wrong. So to Romans, vomitoriums were the entrances and exits in the stadiums or theaters, so dubbed by a fifth century writer because of the way they spew crowds out into the streets. So that was it. Oh, so that's exactly it. It's like, yeah.

So it's kind of a trope, it says, that the ancient Romans were luxurious and vapid enough to engage in rituals of binging and purging, said Sarah Bond, an assistant professor of classics at the University of Iowa. Yeah, so when people say the Romans had the vomitoriums, that's just like, I didn't read the full article type shit Yeah, you know they were big on crucifixion though But we go conquer a place and then they would take the people as slaves and then they would Crucify them every hundred yards. Oh, yeah all the way back. Yeah for my

Insane you'd be seeing dead bodies hanging from poles for my's and that's crazy marching. Yeah guys. I'm telling you We're gonna win. Yeah, I know there's like a million dudes on sticks out here, but keep going. Yeah Stay strong, you know, you're out of water. Humanity was rough, man, bro That's that's rough and that's why those Serbians play basketball in a different way That's why you don't want to wrestle against a guy from Dagestan. It's all the same thing. It's like they lived a harder life, man. Is that what it is?

That's the culture too, but the culture speaks to that. We're going in a dangerous place with the culture. With our culture? Yeah. We are rewarding victimhood, so people are deciding that they're victims in a way that doesn't even make sense. And we're also rewarding insanity. Yep.

Just because it stands out and it- Makes you special. Spurs the algorithm and people want to look at it. It's like a train wreck. People want to look at the train wreck. Yeah, that's a real issue with social media. The more crazy you are, the more views you'll get. And then it encourages you to be crazy.

I kind of wonder what the chat-chep-eat-tee psychosis is all about, like what's the analysis of that? Because I know the accusation, I think, is that it led this one guy down the path of psychosis. And that- I'm sure it can, if it's what you described. You're saying stuff, it's feeding you other facts, you're building on those other facts.

Well, did you ever think of it this way, which is also wrong, and then you're saying stuff. It's feeding you other facts. You're building on those other facts Well, did you ever think of it this way which is also wrong? And then you're building on that and then it's suggesting something else and then you're building on that It's like it can very easily help you lose your mind. I mean if it makes you fall in love with it Yes, that's the ultimate Manipulation it's like what's the physical aspect of that? It's like a wall vagina Right, I guess. No, it's eventually a robot. I was at the Domain yesterday, and they had, the Domain is like this outdoor shopping area out here, and they had this little Tesla robot walking

around with a cowboy hat on. You ever seen him? Yeah, I don't know if it's a Tesla one. It's not? It's a robot. I've seen it. He's got shoes on too. He wears Nikes. Yeah, he wears Nikes. Yeah. And he was not What taste yeah, you look good Stylish nice cowboy hat who made that robot we can buy one. I was gonna bring that up to you recently 16 grand I think the things they come from China really mm-hmm and was it do

That's the part. I don't know. I don't know we get there would be dope we get it to bring us cigars That's the part. I don't know. I don't know we get there would be dope we get it to bring us cigars Like bring us cigars and then Robbie the robot go the next week. He'll want to smoke one with you Yeah, the next week he wants to come on the show. So that's the one I saw exactly like that. That's what he looked like yeah, so he's just walking around and He waits at lights walks across the street the whole deal I Don't know what it does. You know, I don't know controlling it Right now he's loitering. I mean he someone owns it. I don't know if someone's like remote controlling it because yeah I don't know either maybe there's somebody that was in a car that was nearby that was controlling it

Someone keeps filming it obviously, but it seemed pretty autonomous, but I think a lot of people are doing that They're just doing it off there like this is this dude like you can see his face. That's his account. So it's people just filming it off the street. I think that's Epstein But that operated by unseen human handler via wireless controller though who the robot belongs to remains a mystery Oh interesting. Yeah, also unclear why its artificial intelligence has been specifically trained to interact with austenites Well, this is a little of the places that has the a lot of those fucking robot cars to those way most the way mo Yeah, I I freaked me out last time. I was here. I think I saw one. It's weird. It's very hard It's very weird to just look at to look at a driverless car just a car with no one in it driving around Camera spinning around all over it

It's like it's it's a weird glimpse into the future I don't know if I like it I don't like it at all and there was a thing at a hotel in this there was this robot going up and down the parking lot I guess trying to determine if someone wasn't supposed to be parking there because it was like giving parking tickets the robot I wrote a parking ticket. Yeah, it was going up and down It was like a robot that was a go to a restaurant when a robot delivers your drinks No, I've been to a restaurant really yeah, the robot will come over and deliver a fucking diet coke to you

You're like okay. It just pulls up And it like shows you the order and you just take it off the robot It's like got a tray and then it goes over to the other tables and stops when people are there and it moves around stuff Yeah, I mean I'm for that. I was the worst waiter I was the worst waiter in the history of the world. I could never get it to a relaxed place I was always too intense. Do you need anything? Do you need anything? Do or it just like was I was completely in the weeds? Oh, yeah, I was stressed

Where'd you wait tables? In Florida. Oh boy. So I had old people and they were taking their time. And it was a package deal where they would get an appetizer, a salad, a dinner, a dessert, a coffee. It's like all that was included. And it was like 15 people.

I could never keep track of it in my head. It's like the wait staff at comedy clubs, I really got to hand it to them. They're quiet and they have it all figured out and organized. It's like I could never, it would just be jumbled and I'd be sweating and bringing stuff out haphazardly and they're like, what?

A good wait staff is certainly a skill. Like to be a good waiter or waitress is like a good bartender. It's a skill. Knowing when to interact, when to leave people alone. Don't be annoying. Don't tell people how to eat things the way I would choose to eat this is like hey I hate that don't do that. Don't tell me how to eat this fucking idiot. It's a steak stop I know I never got to that level. I would tell you to slice it thin and then dip it into a shot the fuck

It's steak Yeah, get out of here actor. Yeah, I know what you're doing. It's steak. Yeah. Get out of here, actor. Yeah. I know what you're doing. You're practicing. Yeah, yeah. You're practicing on me. That's great. He's doing his monologue about steak. Ugh. Ugh.

That's how they do it. So what are you gonna do when communism hits full force in New York City? I'll be honest with you. I don't know how that looks. I don't know how it looks. I don't know where the rubber meets the road there. Can it really? I mean, don't you think that ultimately that guy is going to be, he's saying a lot of things, but just like presidents do, they say a lot of things

until they get in the office and they realize how stuff actually works and then they make concessions. You're gonna have to. Because he wants to jack up taxes on everything, jack up taxes on the businesses. The businesses, and the only thing is, it's like, yeah, jack up on taxes on the businesses the businesses and it's the only thing is it's like yeah check up on taxes on like the chains

That are taking over but don't jack it up on but even if you do that don't jack it up on mom and pop businesses Well, they also that's what makes New York, New York. Yes, they've lost a lot of that already, right? You know, but even if you do that, it's like why are you doing it to them? And what why is But even if you do that, why are you doing it to them? And what why is is everything running efficiently first is your money being allocated to like efficient organizations? Is it like going to do good or do you have a lot of waste and fraud? So if you have a lot of waste and fraud you want more money. That's right. Well, I like stealing Yeah, you're dealing with such a massive bureaucracy You really have to go in there and I figure out how to cut it and all this stuff

Yeah, and allocate the money the right way. I don't know where it breaks down, but It probably leads to another Giuliani type mayor. It probably goes completely sideways for a bunch I hope not because it was it's it's ugly if there's like just massive crime on the subways and gangs kind of I don't Think it'll get to that because I think we're past that and we're conscious of it. Oh come on, it's like a level of crime where it's like there's no cops around and the gangs are running the streets and it's like dangerous to take the subway and all that stuff. Well friends that I know in New York and cops that I've talked to from New York have said that there was a big increase when they started letting like basically

anybody who wanted to come across the border and they were getting to New York and New York is a sanctuary so he's like we were having real fucking problems like a elevated number of Assaults and crimes and rob in Times Square, right? Not just Times Square. It was a lot of just in New York City in general They're getting a lot, you know, right? And if you allow crime and people find out you can get away with crime of just in New York City in general. They're getting a lot, you know? And if you allow crime and people find out you can get away with crime, they're going to do it.

If you have no cash bail and that kind of shit, we'll let people right out. Like there was some guy that assaulted cops and then he was back on the street the next day giving the Tupac to the camera. I mean that's crazy. Illegal immigrant. The whole thing's nuts. That's crazy. And so Yeah, the whole thing's nuts That's crazy And so what's the response to that?

Well now you have this insane policy where they're going to Home Depot and rounding people up and it's kind of scary You know people that are American citizens in here a lot long time and you know, yeah Yeah, and then you're rounding people up it is it is scary, but it's like a response to you know, it's a massive influx Yeah, it's an overcorrection Right and it's also like they have a mandate. I think of like 3,000 people a day. They want to deport just You know you got a bunch of people that are totally innocent are gonna get caught up I have been right you know they have been a lot of people that have green cards a lot of people that are Supposed to be over here, and then they're kicking students out that like write articles. They don't like yeah, that's nuts

Fucking crazy yeah fucking isn't a university supposed to be a place where someone's allowed to express themselves and have Nonviolently yeah, it's a they're writing something down, and they're not calling for violence right and they're getting challenged That's supposed to be how it happens you get challenged smarter people have better arguments or your argument stands right discourse Yeah, it's supposed to be a place for discourse. What's supposed to be yeah Deporting people because you don't like who they're criticizing like that gets kind of shifty. I understand that but it's like, you know, we had all these people come in and Now it's a response. You're right. It is I think maybe an over response to it, but it is a response It's not just happening out of nowhere, right? You know, no, it's not response. You're right, it is, I think, maybe an over-response to it, but it is a response. It's not just happening out of nowhere.

Right. No, it's not happening out of nowhere. I mean, and also they realized once they shut down the border, that could have totally been done a long time ago. Yes. Didn't have to let violent murderers and gangs or you know what, go on the front foot and have a positive, streamline the pathway to citizenship.

Yes. Like if you would have just come up with that instead of letting the people through the border and just been like, hey, we're gonna streamline a pathway to citizenship here, we're gonna vet these people, but we're gonna move it along more efficiently. And like, who's not gonna be behind that?

I mean, you could disagree with that, but at least it's like a proactive way to get things done instead of what happened. But here's the dirty secret. The dirty secret is there's certain companies that want people over here illegally, because they can use them for cheap labor. And they don't have to give them benefits,

and they don't have to give them health insurance, and they don't have to do anything. They don't even have to pay taxes. And that's the dirty secret. That's the reality, that there's a bunch of businesses that rely on illegal workers, and that's the only way their business works. Right. And they want that border opened.

And there was a lot of talk about, we don't have enough people here. People aren't having children. We need immigrants. But the reality is, and Tim Dillon talked about this first. I first heard it from him. But then JD Vance told me the same thing, that someone actually told him that at a party, that that

was what they were upset about, that they were losing access to cheap labor. I'm like, that's crazy, that's crazy. No, I'm sure it's being funded. It's being encouraged from both sides. For sure. So it's not all the left. Everybody thinks it's a left-wing issue,

but it's like, see, the right is just quietly, they're just doing stuff very quietly. Yeah in my opinion Well, there was a lot of guys like that And I understand you're trying to run a business and you want cheaper labor But that's that's the wrong way to do it and they're secretly behind it I think the problem is they've been getting away with it for so long that it becomes a Part of their standard operating procedure, right? Like if it was never a thing if you could never get away with it

It was a real problem for the writing then you'd have to pay people a living wage Right and then you have to pay people correctly, which is what we should all yes for everyone Yeah, I think you know look everybody says like oh, we should make it easier for people to come to America. Okay? That's a good argument Also, we should make other places better Like if we weren't sending factories down to Mexico where people working for 15 cents a day What if those people were making like a real living wage down there? Like if we weren't sending factories down to Mexico where people working for 15 cents a day, what if those people were making like

a real living wage down there? Because if you're gonna have an American company and you're gonna open up a factory somewhere, it's your responsibility to elevate those people's lifestyle. Like, and make it like an American lifestyle. Like you wanna do- Well then it makes it not worth it to take the business out of there.

Yes, exactly. Well you should be subject to American rules. Because if you're an American company, you can't do that in America. If you can't have somebody working for $15 an hour in America or 15 cents an hour in America, why are you able to do that in El Salvador? Why are you able to do that in Vietnam?

Shouldn't you, if you're gonna operate a company overseas, be subject to the laws of where your company's established? Yes. Yeah. That would stop all that shit. Yeah, and but you should at least all that shit Yeah, what the payoffs are happening? Throughout I'm sure that's what Ross Perot talked about Yeah debates way back in the 90s like that giant sucking sound you're gonna hear is all the money going down south And that's what happened. Yeah, I went across the border or at least give them

You have to tax them for taking or tax them for taking their business outside of the Country like it's gotta be more than that because they they killed cities. They killed Detroit like killed it Detroit died It was the third richest city in the world at one point and they just moved everything overseas and they killed that city Just for profit and for profit for them that cost, who knows how many people's lives? Who knows how many people turned to drug addiction and crime and chaos, how many people lost homes,

some people's lives were destroyed, and some people made more money, yeah, but like, to what? It's not the right thing to do. Even if you're making money, it's the wrong thing to do. Especially when at one point in time, Detroit was the third richest city in the world. Like you can see right from there, inside of one lifetime, it became a disaster.

In one lifetime, which is crazy. It's crazy that that was allowed. Just so some people can profit. Like, look what you fucked up. That's kind of un-American. It's very un-American. Very, very. And these people are,

the people sticking their chests out, saying that they're the most American. And they're eating fucking caviar. Yeah, it's like, come on, man. How can you live with yourself that way? Yeah, because people are gross. If you allow people to just make profit over people's suffering, they'll do it.

Yeah. They'll do it, and then they just, they're looking at their bottom line, it should be illegal. But make a profit, but make it within the rules. Yeah, and that's totally doable. And then have the rules, and enforce the rules. But as soon as you have lobbyists and corporations just dumping money into the Citizens United case

where it's like, we can just, money is speech, we can just dump money, it's like that has to stop. All the other problems will clear up from that. It's all stemming from that. Oh yeah. So it's like just dumping money into the gut. And then the politicians looking at us and being like, well, they have a seat at the table,

but they don't control what we do. It's like, is that, are you really saying that to us with a straight face? Obviously they control what you're doing and they're telling you what to do and then your job is to sell it to us with a straight face. Obviously they control what you're doing and they're telling you what to do and then your job is to sell it to us. Yep. So it's like, it needs to be,

I don't know if we go to a European, what do the Europeans do where it's like, there's a state amount of money for each campaign, there's a state siphon given to each campaign. It can't be just corporations, at least a limit, like they're just dumping endless amounts of money. I don't know how you put the G in the bottle. It's like the Congress is bought and paid for.

It's like they're gridlocked because they're just bought and paid for. And it's also they want you to feel that sense of despair like there's no fixing it. They want you to feel like it's never gonna get fixed. So you just resign yourself to the fact that this is how the system works. And that's what most of us have done. done most of us are just kind of going fuck it

What are you gonna do? They're all corrupt and then you move on with your life, right? And then and you try to navigate the best way possible and behind the scenes. They're just fucking you left and right Well, are you ready to testify in the Luigi Manjoni trial? Yes or no? Yeah, well that was a gen Z crime he 3d printed a gun did he really yeah He 3d printed the gun now what a smart kid did he really yeah 3d printed a gun to their shit to shoot the guy That's probably why I jammed or he bought cheap ammo You see the slide locked and he had to like pop it back in place now to the second time

Yeah, he shot him and then the gun jammed and he had to like fix it. So he had some experience in shooting people or shooting things, I should say. But what a nutty case. But his like old like videos of him, it's like, what a well-spoken, he seems like an intelligent, well-spoken, graduated at the top of his class guy.

And for him to do that. I had heard a story, I don't know if this is true, but I heard it on the internet that he had a Something went wrong with him and he had lower back pain. Oh, yes. He did. He didn't have access to your machine He had lower back pain. It was killing him. He didn't know what to do about it. He went to several doctors Something else happened and then get an operation. I'm not sure I don't think so, but he he was not getting else happened in there? Did he get an operation? I'm not sure. I don't think so. But he was not getting, the insurance company was not cooperating with him, obviously. And he was actively in pain. Yeah. But I also thought that he went kind of kooky. Like something

went wrong with him too. Did he have like, did someone say that he took acid? Was that a rumor? There were a bunch of rumors because I think I love rumors. He's been working in finance and he disappeared and moved to Hawaii and was staying in Hawaii for a while by himself and all his friends had lost contact something like that. Oh so he had a little bit of a break other than that.

Some evidence of some psychological troubles which would also lead someone to become an assassin and then also like flirt with the girl at Starbucks with your fucking man That's what got him. Yeah pussy So get small got him he took his mask down and smiled at her and that's what got him Yeah showed that handsome mug Yeah, and

And then he shot the guy which is terrible and wrong. There's two sides to it, you know Yeah, where it's like everybody is like terrible and wrong. There's two sides to it, you know? Yeah. Where it's like everybody's like well, these these companies are terrible and this guy did what the he naturally should have done and other people are like murder is wrong. It's like no two things can be true at one time. Yeah, first degree murder is wrong which is what this was and these companies should not exist in the form that they're in right now. They shouldn't be able to do what they're doing. No. If you're doing that to Ben Askren in front of everybody's face.

Right. They're doing it in front of our face. And it's like, I checked what my company was worth. I'm on the New York marketplace. It's my company's worth $28 billion. 28 billion with a B. And did they give you a hard time about certain things? Have you tried to use them?

I have, I'm paying a crazy amount of money and I have a $4,000 deductible. So my insurance is basically like, if I get hit by a bus Look at this it says man. Gionni discussed getting Lyme disease at age 13 and wrote that he'd been experiencing brain fog since high school He also sought advice online regarding irritable bowel syndrome and visual snow while studying at University of Pennsylvania Mangione wrote in a post online that he considered dropping out due to worsening health issues, but decided against it, writing, Staying in college has at least let me maintain some semblance of normalty. He suffered from...

How do you say that? Spondylolisthesis? While living in Hawaii, his back pain worsened due to a surfing mishap, and he expressed concerns to others about the pain. Reporter underwent spinal fusion surgery in July of 2023. Wrote on social media, the surgery went well. People have stated that UnitedHealthcare did not insure him. After his arrest, several news outlets analyzed Mangione's social media to gather information

about his social, political, and religious views. His Twitter account posted about topics such as religion, history, ethics, and politics. He found it to be fascinated by AI and decision theory, pro-technology but anti-smartphones, secular and scientific in his outlook. Skeptical outlook towards Joe Biden and Donald Trump, multiple sources of, sounds rational. Multiple sources have reported that he followed the Democratic representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

as well as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and others labeling him as politically uncategorized and anti-system. I wonder why he targeted that guy because they said he wasn't covered by United Health Care So that guy was a specific guy like the president of the company. It is not I wonder why he targeted him It's also nuts that we know so much about him and we don't know anything about the guy who tried to kill Trump. Oh Yeah, well, you know, he was on the JV rifle team was he yeah, he's on the JV. Does it have a JV rifle team was he yeah he's on the JV does it have a JV rifle team yeah Pennsylvania maybe he was varsity would he got that shot yeah yeah yeah sure

he's a fucking slacker he's a put in that work yeah he didn't he was on that stood out to me that he was a on the junior varsity of the rifle team we know more about the couple that got busted at the Coldplay concert than we do about that guy I thought everybody who went to a Coldplay concert was gay Didn't know straight guys went to Coldplay concert they do they can get some pussy from their Co-workers, but can you ask like why did that guy have to step down? That's his company I understand you shouldn't cheat on your wife and it's wrong and it's bad But like he's like there he has to step down. It's a CEO, but that's his company

Did he own it or he just worked there as a CEO? It might have you know, it's bad luck And he's better that's the HR lady. Yeah, which is also bad. That's tired What happened? Oh, yeah, they hired Gwen Paltrow to do an ad for them After they fired him which is hilarious because she used to be married to the leader of Coldplay Yeah, like oh brilliant move by the way on their part of the company's part. What was the company? What'd they do? Yeah, what did astronomer do that's interesting. That's a weird name for a company. Yeah, they have anything to do with astronomy Do you hear about that fucking object that's hurtling towards Earth at like 130,000 miles an hour? No, that might solve all our problems. Some intergalactic object that's hurt, this is this guy Avi Loeb, he's a

professor at Harvard that believes it might be an alien probe. Wow. And he was talking about the odds of this thing being in the trajectory that it is entering into our solar system in a direct path with Earth, the odds of this thing being in the trajectory that it is entering into our solar system in a direct path with Earth, the odds are extremely low. And at the place where it's doing it, it's when the Earth is the opposite side of the Sun, so it's coming from behind the Sun. And it's, so it makes it difficult to detect. And then this object is in a direct line to come to Earth in 2027 Do they have a trajectory of where it's gonna land? I don't think they totally know that yet I think they're trying to calculate whether or not it's actually gonna hit earth or come near earth or

Pass by earth or what it you know what it is. Why do they think it's an alien? Satellite or whatever well this is guy Avi lobe this professor that I'm discussing. He also had an analysis of another object That passed by earth a few years back that they named and they said that this thing had a very bizarre Metallic sort of a look to it that he did not think Based on the shape of it and the way it was traveling that it was natural. So he thought that that could have been some sort of an alien craft as well. I don't know.

It's too fun. It's too fun to believe this is real. But as it gets closer, we could probably decipher. Scientists give chilling update a mysterious interstellar object racing through our solar system. As they warn, it's even bigger than we thought. Provided chilling update

in a mysterious interstellar object that's racing through our solar system using data from the Vera C. Rubin Observatory. Experts have revealed just how big the object dubbed 31 Atlas really is. According to their analysis, the object measures roughly seven miles in diameter. Holy fuck. How big is New York City? Bigger than Mount Everest, making it the largest interstellar object ever spotted. Professor Avi Loeb, theoretical physicist and cosmologist from Harvard University suggested the object could be an alien spacecraft.

However, not everyone is convinced. Chris Lintat, an astronomer at University of Oxford, Oxford told Live Science, any suggestion that it's artificial is nonsense and on nonsense on stilts. He added that these claims are an insult to the exciting work going on to understand this object. But you know, Harvard's legit and Avi Loeb is a legit astronomer. Right, I mean let's not rule anything out. Yeah. as it gets closer the There's something about it about the way it's traveling that it's bizarre It doesn't have a trail like a comet does right?

Scroll up a little so you can see that the images of the comet were actually snapped by the Varice Rubin before it was officially discovered However, since it was identified on July 1st, scientists – just July 1st, just a little bit ago – scientists have scoured back through data to find out more about the mysterious object. New study published on Rxiv, whatever that is, more than 200 researchers have confirmed the likely size of the comet's main body known as its nucleus. Their analysis suggests the nucleus has a radius of around 3.5 miles That translates to a diameter or width of about 7 miles to put that in perspective bigger than Mount Everest Twice the size of Mount Kilimanjaro Fuck

Yeah, so the How do you say it? Oh Yeah, so the How do you say it um I think Oh Discovered in 2017 this is he came on and talked to us about that was believed to be around 0.2 miles wide and Comet Borisov discovered in 2019 was roughly 0.6 one kilometer wide So this thing is fucking huge Yeah

So Previously speaking to mail online professor low pointed out that it's impressive speed of 130,000 miles per hour as an indication that it might be controlled by aliens He said it's difficult to imagine a natural process that would favor a plunge towards the inner solar system at 60 kilometers per second, he said. An alternative is that the object targets the inner solar system by some technological design. Oh boy. Oh boy. Hopefully they come in peace

Well, that might be the end of the earth Maybe that's like they realize like that's when AI starts to take over and they think it's chaos So it's just that's when it's gonna happen So it's just like launch a seven mile wide thing into the earth and just start all over again like the dinosaurs Well that you're saying it hits and then AI, our AI fights it? No. Or are they?

It wipes out, the AI takes over and it's like this isn't gonna work, so it wipes it out. Just like when the dinosaurs were here, the dinosaurs were too powerful, and they're like, yeah, let's just fucking start from scratch. Maybe that's how they like reset the game. Huh.

And then, so humanity is wiped out? Everything's wiped out Yeah, we're fresh with new organisms And then they come along and do genetic engineering just like they did with us and monkeys and create a new version of humans But this time of this a little less territorial a little less a little more inquisitive a little more interested and Innovation a little less interested in dominating and control resources because that's what fucked us Territorial apes get high technology and use territorial behavior to defend and acquire resources and that creates war Did you see that fucking dude? There's a dude who this is a crazy story mr.

Ballen and Tom Tom Segura was on mr. Ballen and Mr. Ballin explained this thing that happened. I forget what year it was. It was in the 70s I think. Okay, so this Mexican pilot was flying and in the middle of his flying he got confused. He didn't know what the fuck happened. He fell asleep and he woke up and he was over the ocean. And he was like, how did I get over the ocean?

This doesn't even make any sense. And the amount of gas that was missing from his plane didn't make any sense that he was able to get this far. And what they're saying, and there's a recording of this, is that this guy went into a trance and was channeling some alien intelligence that was explaining through this guy's voice that the human race is the only intelligent race in the universe that still uses war and still kills people and engages in large-scale conflict and has nuclear weapons and that they have to stop doing this or that someone's gonna step in.

It's a crazy story. Play the story. Someone's gonna step in? Oh... Could story play the story someone's gonna step in Could we play it some of it? I don't know just to give credit to mr.. Ballen Well everybody should just go to it if you just tell me how to go to it I'll just drive people to see it his Instagram account with Tom But he's got a really good YouTube channel to yeah, and all sorts of wild stories like this Yeah But this was a great one and then there's an actual audio recording of this guy saying this

Yeah, I'll send you the audio recording Jamie if you can't find it real quick I've got I sent it to Tom after I said I saw Tom on the show It's like that's fucking crazy man, and he's like dude wild and then I sent him this I said, did you know there's an actual recording that you can listen to of the guy? Saying this so if you go like halfway into it you You got it. Oh, you got it. Okay So a certain distance into it you hear the guy talking in this very bizarre monotone Spanish

Was there a UFO like why did did that uh why did they show that UFO that fake UFO? Making a video to watch to keep you interested on YouTube. Oh keep me interested. I'll be interested anyway. I hear it. Yeah let me hear it. He is speaking but he does not know. The equipment is too primitive. This is the only way to convey. Lower that a little. A microphone. The equipment is too primitive this is the only way to convey lower that alone a microphone the equipment is too primitive is the only way to convey their message after almost an hour the beings would release the young aviator pilot from his hypnotic state and return control the plane so that he could receive instructions and at the same time he managed to land the Acapulco airport

Interesting You know, that's the thing like if if there was a unique event where Something happened and an alien race did interact with human beings and then never again You know one would believe you even if it was real if it was a, that's a problem with like unique events. We base reality on what we experience and what everybody else experiences on a day to day basis, right? What we have evidence of. But if something happened that was completely unique like that, where they said like, this is the only way we can communicate their equipment is too primitive, we'll just take over this guy's mind and have him say it. Like who is ever going to believe that? That's the quote translated.

Okay, the alien message is spoke through Rafael Pacheco Perez to the air traffic controller. It says, he speaks because he is ordered to. That is, it is his voice he speaks, but not of his own free will. We use it as a microphone. No matter who we are or where we come from, is enough for you to know that we are beings of this universe where you belong. Our planet is many light years away, but we are physically equal. I repeat that all races in the universe are physically equal. You are not alone in the universe, and there are other races that are far away from you, and

we are watching you." but he said more than that what is the like the full extent of his quote because he said something about you're the only race that still engages in warfare I want to believe it I want to believe it's how bad no I don't I definitely think there's other life forms out there I don't know what really happened. Yeah, I really wish I knew I mean Really this guy did fall asleep while he was flying a plane. So can we really trust them? Right, and he did wake up over the ocean But if he did wake up over the ocean it doesn't make sense that he got over the ocean if that's true

Right explain that like how did he get there? Yeah, what'd you do? Did you take over the plane move it with your spaceship? Why'd you put him over the ocean? So if he crashed it wouldn't kill anybody right? Why'd you do that like what is? What is all this and what's the thing with the gas being gone right because I guess they like picked it up and took it We are watching you What else does it say different surprise? Issues certificate stating he was in perfect health and had not consumed any drugs. It ruined his career and he never piloted a plane again. Wow.

This is his first solo flight too. Whoa. Imagine your first solo flight like I am going to pull a fucking gag on these motherfuckers I got an idea. I got some that was 1976. Yeah Wow Now I definitely I don't know if I believe that account but I do believe that there's Other life forms out there. My problem is I want to believe that account. That's always the problem with all these things. I want to believe. I want to believe so bad that I don't think about them rationally sometimes. Yeah. I mean, these stories are all, it's like whether you trust the source or not, but I, you know, the universe is too big for us to be the only ones here.

Oh, for sure. And I don't care that Mars doesn't have any water. Maybe they don't need water. Well, you know, they think Mars used to have a full atmosphere and do you know that there's structures on Mars that they've observed even recently that look like perfect squares that are huge? Huh. There's this one that I showed to Elon I go what is that tell me what do you think that is? Well we should probably go there and look around. Like yeah we should probably go there and look around. He's the guy to do it But what is like he didn't didn't want to say what he thought it was but I'm looking at him

I'm like do you think this could have been at one point in time a structure? Because it has perfect right angles and it's a square and it's huge right they said it's at least Hundreds of meters across but it might be miles across they're just it's rough estimates, but they know it's large ever seen it Across they're just it's rough estimates, but they know it's large have you seen it J-Mill show to you, but it's a like a literal square. There's a bunch of shit. That's weird there That's like a face on Mars, but I'm not totally convinced about that, but that one's nuts Like that's kind of crazy Didn't that look kind of crazy? It's on the right yeah

That's kind of crazy. Yeah, that looks like a fucking square. Oh Yeah, that looks like a foundation. I mean tell me what the fuck. Yeah, what is that right? That does not look normal those angles don't look normal at all that lower left-hand corner Like what is that and then the fact that it's roughly a square? I mean, I don't know if it's a square or a rectangle It seems like it's a little taller, I mean, I don't know if it's a square or a rectangle. It seems like it's a little taller than it is wide. But whatever it is, it looks like a fucking structure, man. It's weird.

Well, just because we can't exist there doesn't mean other life forms can exist there. Or other life forms used to exist there. Like imagine if there was like if there's life on Earth right now today, and if Mars at one point in time had a sustainable atmosphere like millions and millions of years ago What if there was life on Mars it would if we are the offspring of the life on Mars? What if those fucking guys just realized like hey this this place is falling apart Let's shoot over to earth. Oh, that's not a establish. Yeah, I mean that might be why we're so different than every other primate That's here. I

Never thought about it like that That might be true. I just think it's so vast and we know so little about everything. It's possible That's just though I kind of like broaden it that way where it's like it's all possible universe is infinite and we know very little about it Yeah, it's totally possible. It's just not likely I mean it seems because you haven't seen anything like it's not like but we're trying to use our logical brains to figure out. It's like could this be possible? It's like it's there's so much we don't know and we have such a limited scope with our human minds to even comprehend stuff So it's like, you know, I'm big on the near-death experiences. Yeah, I watch all of those. What do you think that's all about?

Because it really puts it on the Teajeres Catholic. I'm Catholic now, but it's like, everybody has like a similar experience where they go through a tunnel and they come out and then there's a life review where it's like your whole life is played out before you. And it doesn't matter if you're religious or... That seems not to matter at all.

What seems to matter is, like, the little kindnesses that you do to people. Yeah. Like, smiling at someone or giving somebody some kind words who had a bad day. It's like, it speaks to the thing that we're all connected. Yeah. We're all connected on this higher level. I

Definitely think that's true. Yeah, I think reality is probably a lot weirder than we think it is and Whatever happens to you after you're dead. It's very weird that people have similar stories. Yes, very weird from different countries also Mm-hmm. Yeah from all over the world and also long before there was any social media or any Like public depictions of these things people have always had very similar stories of these things happening to them Which is makes you wonder like what what is death, you know, and what is what is life? What is consciousness does it transcend does it go somewhere else and it always has is is it a constant cycle? Yeah Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Yeah, so it's like it's got to go somewhere your soul I guess for a lack of a better term has to go somewhere

Yeah, and if you were looking at if you were an alien being looking at the direction that the human race is going I Would imagine you would be worried. I would imagine you would see all the chaos and guys falling in love with AI, and people beating people up at jazz concerts. You're like, this is not good. But we don't know where we are in the timeline either. To totally, you know, we think, I was like, this is gonna change things

and we're headed towards total destruction. It's like, but we don't know where we are in that continuum. It's like, it could do it uptick again and we could rebound and you know what I mean? Like, so we just don't know where we are in that continuum. It's like it could do an uptick again and we could rebound and you know what I mean? Like so we just don't know. If we had the right intentions, right? Like if we had the intention of doing things designed to improve the human race

versus doing things designed to only make money. You know, like if we collectively as a group abandon the idea of just doing things only for profit and Instead embrace the idea of helping the human race complete turn around we change everything change the whole yeah It has to happen on a micro level though where it's like, you know, it's the It's the religion. It's the religious thing of love your neighbor. Yeah, it's got to start on a very micro level. Which is probably why that stuff exists. Probably why that exists in so many cultures is because they kind of knew that this is the general direction the human race has to go if we're going to survive.

Were you talking about religion? Yeah. And if you had like a guidance from somewhere else, from a higher power, it would probably tell you exactly what Jesus told you. Right. That's probably the message. Yeah. The message of Jesus, whether you believe in it or not, is beautiful, right? You know, it's like love your neighbor

It's the only way to get through what we're in now. Yeah Absolutely When he back peace be with you peace be with you and also with you Yes, and also with you when you back Get back here. Yeah, when you back in the club, I don't know I'm gonna reach out to Adam. Okay, but thank you You were awesome. Thank you. I really appreciate the work and appreciate you having me on here. This is a huge deal for me Yeah, it's called low-income white there it is that's you and Nate Bargatze my friend shout out to Nate insanely successful and

Talented and he's giving us an awesome guy giving me and a lot of other people under the Nate land banner opportunities So that's all shout out to Nate shout out to Nate. He made this I love and he's putting other comics on I like your jacket. Thank you. It's cool. It's pretty clutch I like the diamond stitching a lot of people online said he's wearing lipstick, but I wasn't what All the comments say lipstick. Oh, they're just fucking with you. You don't look like you're wearing this guy But I shot at the Zanies lab shout out to Zanies in Nashville and Nate Bargatze in the Nate land brand Thank you for having me on beautiful. All right, brother. I appreciate it. See to see you my friend. You too. Always. Alright. Bye everybody.