The Joe Rogan Experience - #2369 - Ed Calderon

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

Ed Calderon is a security specialist and combatives instructor with over 10 years experience in public safety along the northern border area of Mexico. Follow him online @ManifestoRadioPodcast https://www.edsmanifesto.com/ Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan The ultimate wireless hack. Make the switch at https://visible.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Rogan podcast checking out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night All day Art Bell was the best Driving home from the comedy store Like 1 o'clock in the morning Hearing some dude claimed he was a time traveler

Remember when he There was a dude that claimed to work at Area 51 And then it cut out the radio show cut out Yeah, that was a good one Art was the man Yeah, that's why we put that photo up there. Because he was, you know, a lot of the subjects that we covered, he was the original guy talking about these things on the radio. Yeah, and the fact that he just kept the open lines, if you're a time travel, if you're a time travel, just call in and tell us what's going to happen in the future.

People that were kidnapped by Bigfoot, like, no matter what, art was like, interesting, tell me more. Yeah, yeah. Like, he was open to just talking to anyone. He never called bullshit. No. Oh, no. So, Ed, the last time I saw you gave me an Aztec death whistle, and Brian Callan blew it on the air, and it caused the pandemic. He was very good at it out of nowhere.

He just, like, grab it and whew! We have another one. Oh, no. Look at this. Probably that's... Luke Caverns gave us this one. Yeah. That's a good one, right?

That is a beautiful one. Probably, let's not repeat it, again. I'm not blowing it. I don't know if it's true or not true, but it's a... It definitely was. I got a lot of messages about it. Like, hey, this was kind of coincidentally at the start of this pandemic. Don't put this on me. Listen, man, people have been blowing them whistles all over the world. Yeah. There's a bunch of those whistles out there. There's no way. There's no way. No. The only thing is, I don't think anybody ever blew one on a podcast that was

seen by millions of people. I mean, you were directly responsible for those to become this viral, popular thing no like few people knew about them but they became this international thing now like everybody talks about death whistles now because of it uh well i don't know they are weird the sound is creepy yeah you know definitely weird ghostly yeah if you heard dudes in the distance making that noise and you knew the people were after you and you heard that you'd be like oh fuck yeah i mean it definitely keeps you up at night uh seeing people do pranks with them Just screaming them at randomly in the middle of the night and the street, you know, people running around. What is the origin of that?

Like, Aztec death whistles. Like, when did they start using them? Does anybody know? People keep finding them. I mean, Aztec is a modern word for Mexica, which were a bunch of tribes that moved from northern, you know, northern America down there. And they brought with them a lot of customs. But I think those were around before them. You know, a lot of them emulated animals.

so a lot of it was like shamanistic people trying to in view themselves with the spirit of an animal so a lot of them you know have jaguar sounds coming out but some of the ones that with the scream apparently they're more about the screeching owls that live down there but they've been like people told me that native people down there told me that they were very much specifically kind of utilized for psychological like effect just to fuck with people yeah make them not sleep during these flower wars that were they would they would have with the i think the classical takans um they had this agreement where they would go and try and capture um people to bring back to the pyramid to sacrifice um in a way they would they would uh you know tire them is to you know blow those at night where they were encamped or where the or the places where they were about to attack so you know lose sleep with those like a few hundred of those just people can be really devious when they know how to mess with your head

yeah the Mexica people glorify a lot of people from Mexico everybody's Aztec you're probably not Aztec you're probably some other tribe that didn't lose that initial conquest yeah a lot of badass dudes have like

Aztec tattoos on their back and stuff like that but that's the losing side though the Spanish came and allied them themselves with everybody that hated the Aztecs, including like the Thlaskaltecans, who were apparently like badasses. The Aztecs used to send tax collectors out to them, and apparently one of them didn't come back, according to one story. And the soldiers came over like, hey, where's our tax collector?

Let's feed you before we talk about anything. So they fed them posole. And at the end of the meal, they were like, well, you can take your people back with you. where are they you just ate them they were in the stew and those are the guys that the Spanish allied with the fight against the Mexica Jesus the the history of Mexico is so strange I mean it's so long and storied and there's so many chapters of it that are very confusing because like where the Mayans go like when they found the Aztec pyramids people weren't even living in them when the people eventually wound up living in them. They found them.

Teotihuacan, which they call it, it's basically the city of the gods, is what the Aztecs call them because it was abandoned when they went through. Which is nuts. Yeah, they were, the Aztecs, in essence, were violent immigrants coming from the north into the south, which is pretty interesting foresight, you know. But, yeah, the city was abandoned completely. And when they passed through, it was the city of the gods. They called the pyramid of the sun and the moon, but realistically, nobody knows what those pyramids are for. And when they made their way into the Valley of Mexico, there were already a bunch of tribes already there and peoples, older peoples. So Mexico has an ancient history.

People that want to assume that the Aztecs are ancient history don't know anything about history. They're pretty new on the scene as far as history when it comes to Mexico. Which is really crazy. Yeah, yeah. And it's really crazy that most modern people don't even, I mean, especially in America, don't even understand that the reason why everybody speaks Spanish is because of the Spaniards. Yeah. It's not that the Mexican native language was Spanish. No.

No, it was the language they assumed once they were conquered. Yeah. And there's a bunch of lost languages. Yeah. Something interesting happened with them. And Ernan Cortez and the conquista and the Spanish are all perfect villains in history. I guess people it's it's perfect man if you kind of look at it from the outside perspective colonial invasion but when you go but when you can look at it I mean they were they were just getting

off their own conquest they were conquested by the moors so they were getting free from that so they were already mixed in there they're brown people on that boat it's not blonde-haired white people coming on that boat there's already brown people on that boat coming Renan Cortez is very much painted as a villain in this story. But when you kind of look at the way that the conquest took place in Mexico versus other parts of the world, there was a lot of brutality. There was a lot of ignorance, a lot of religious nonsense on both sides, because the Aztecs also did a lot of horrible things.

But in the end, I think Mexico went the route of mestizage. We decided to mix, like the Spanish. decided to take wives among the natives, they decided to give honorary titles to the people that helped fight the Aztecs, to help with the conquest of what was in Mexico, was just this valley at that time, and gave birth to this culture, this mixed culture, that very much hates parts of itself,

which is a weird part of Mexican culture, because you ask anybody in Mexico, a lot of people, and I went to Mexican school, so I got a lot of this education of how the evil Spanish came in and wiped out all of the natives or most of the natives when in reality

a lot of us in Mexico have mixed blood most of us have mixed blood there's a lot of Spanish blood in us so we were very much taught to hate ourselves in a way and I think that that has something to do with a lot of the psychology

and the culture in Mexico there's a whole part of our history and ourselves that we hate but it's essential. Like we say like the president of Mexico, the past president and the current president are all about sending the king of Spain letters to have them apologize for the conquista.

And it's funny, like some of the bloggers from Spain will respond like you're asking that in Spanish. Yeah, right? And you're probably an ancestor of those very people. So it's kind of you more than us. Yeah. Because we didn't even go over there. We're still here.

Yes. Yes. And people ask where the Mayas went. They're there. You go down there. Yeah, there's some. They look. Exactly like the paintings. If you've ever been to the anthropological museum in Mexico, which I highly asked people to go and visit, it's beautiful. They have a whole Mayan exhibit there. And it's like startling how their culture was so advanced, so detailed, so detailed orientated. And they, the whole feeling of them just being gone or disappearing as a mystery, but then you go down there and you see these people there. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. When it came time to make a website, there was no question that we would power it with Squarespace. From the intuitive design intelligence that helps to create a bespoke digital identity

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Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Look, Mayan. Yeah, they look very different. It's interesting. You know, I went to Chichenita. And first of all, you just, I mean, I know that the pyramids of Egypt, dwarf even that, but when you go there, you're like, what happened? Yeah.

Like, how did you guys do this? Like, how are you building these immense stone structures in the jungle way before Europeans ever settled into America? Like, way before there was anything like this anywhere else. A lot of strongbacks, a lot of work ethic. you know there's no doubt there's no doubt there's a lot of that but there was also a lot of like incredibly sophisticated engineering yeah like this isn't just like a one-time project you got it right the first time like how are you guys so good at like when you look at the the chichita pyramids where you can't walk up them anymore unfortunately but you'll get lynched yeah you get in

big trouble but but i was there back in the day you could climb up them this is like i guess early 2000 and you were you were allowed to walk up that but they'll fuck you up now there's just been videos of people doing things and then yeah the locals they'll get litched in the bottom if you manage to climb that thing right now yeah people there's a watch guy all the way on the top and a bunch of dogs always on that's a weird thing about old pyramids i don't know why dogs like hanging out up there oh really yeah like the the one in the sun pyramid in mexico there's always dogs on top of it and this one there's also always dogs on top of it every night Feral dogs or domestic dogs?

Just wild dogs. They just hang out by there. But, I mean, when you see these things, like, give us some of the images of when you see some of these, there's some dogs. When you see some of these pyramids like that, like, that's so different. I mean, that is so sophisticated. It's so bizarre. Yeah. We had a really good guide there when I went, and the guide was showing us this one area where they would take whatever psychedelic plants.

They had like some ceremonial room where they would take psychedelic plants. And he was telling me that it's not totally understood what they were doing or why they were doing. But it is widely accepted that some of what they were into had to do with psychedelic rituals. And he thinks that had a lot to do with why they were able to make these kind of insanely complex structures. And a weird thing that I've also kind of like realized after just talking to people and just talking to people. going down there and kind of seeing some of the artifacts, a lot of the psychedelics that they actually took were self-harm and mutilation, bloodletting type activities. Really?

Yeah, a lot of the Aztec priests, you see the pictures of them pulling a cord with thorns through their private parts, trying to invoke. them these I don't know visions so just being in such extreme pain and such a bizarre state of mind that you transcend yeah which is which which matched up perfectly with some of the catholic worldviews when they when they arrived when you when you look at a lot of the culture specifically in Mexico you see that they met they met kind of like a perfect culture like they matched in a lot of ways when the Catholics arrived Yeah, the Mexicans were venerating a mother goddess at a grotto area in Mexico.

That's where the, the, the, what is this? Salica is. Yeah, some of the rituals. What's going on about that? They're calling these, bloodletting. Yeah, but they're spying, porky spine, something spying. Yeah, yeah. It's coming out of that area and there's a.

Oh, that's wrapped around his dick? That looks like it. It's pretty close to that area. A lot of people want to go take ayahuasca down there, but I don't see a lot of this probably coming back. Or maybe, I don't know. But that was, that's a big part of what they also did, you know, a lot of bloodletting pain. A lot of human sacrifice, too. Yes.

Yeah. Which they, which a lot of people in Mexico are now. Oh, it's a big exaggeration. It's like propaganda, denial. And then you go there and there's like stone skull piles commemorating whatever war and depicting. and depictions of them in concoity sees that they themselves made of just getting sacrificed people

on top of pyramids pulling out their hearts. Well, that was that one statue that's on top of the pyramid that's like a bench. They were explaining to me that that's where they would sacrifice people. I mean, it makes sense.

Even the way that in the art it's depicted, you can't fake that. Most people would think you would go through the rib cage to get at the heart. No, they go through the diaphragm right down here. So that's why there's a lot of depictions of some of these gods, like Mikantle Kutli, which is the Lord of the underworld in the Aztecs.

Sometimes it's depicted with a skeletal form with its hands spread out like this, and you'll see a split diaphragm on the bottom coming out underneath its ribcage as a signifier that, you know, that's... Well, they go up to grab the heart. That's where they go out, grab the heart. Show that sculpture, that sculpture, that flat bench sculpture that is like a man. It looks like he's sitting on his hands and knees, but with his, you know, torso faced upward, that one.

Yeah. Yeah, that was the one they were explaining to me. And again, I imagine that a lot of these things, I mean, you have to interpret because there's, there are things out there that I don't understand. But I know blood was very essential, and it was an essential thing for these cultures. It's one of the most powerful offerings you can make.

And a lot of the Catholic side of things that came into the country, that came into this area, just intermingled perfectly. You know, they were also talking about a god that, uh, that, that, those skulls in the corner right next to your cursor, you know, in the middle there. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. Where, where the capital of Mexico is right now, there's a big cathedral behind it.

There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a temple major temple of the Aztec Empire. And there's a lot of those, uh, types of symbologies around, just skulls, because that's where they would have the Sempantli, I think it's called. sorry if I butchered the word, they would have these racks of skulls on top of the pyramids, on top of their central pyramid, kind of displaying all of the people that had gone, you know, off it. And what was the story? Was it the completion of Tenochitlan or one of the Aztec pyramids where they sacrificed 80,000 slaves over, like, whoever they had? I've heard, like, numbers of 50,000. I have no idea how you would kind of figure out those numbers. Right. But you do get accounts of some of the Spanish conquistadors describing the smell that some of these pyramids had, which if you were into a killhouse, like a slaughterhouse.

Yeah, I have. This is a dark smell. Yeah. It's like it's uncanny. And there's something about human tallow that I've also smelled and blood that is very distinct. I mean, yeah, we're monkeys and we probably have some genetic memory. of what that smell is and it makes us want to run, I guess. And they describe the smell on some of these parliaments when they finally got into the city.

The city, don't get me wrong, the Asic Empire, like the Spanish peasants coming off that boat were like awestruck of when they saw this city. Yeah. Like it had water coming into it. Super complex. It was a sister complex, just this structural. in culture that was uncontested there. So when they got there, they were looking. And completely different than anything European.

Yeah. So they came over here and they're like, what is going on in this part of the world? Yeah. What are you guys doing? Yeah. How do you have so much gold? Well, there was some gold. I mean, you hear these stories about the city of gold and stuff like that.

There was gold there. But they valued other things. You know, that wasn't their main central things. So it was a kind of puzzle about why they were so interested in some of the golden regalia they had. But when the conquest kind of like finally kind of subsided and the parties that lost were all being divided up because that's what happened. The lords within this same culture became allies of the allies of the invading forces. And when they won, they were like, you're now the title owner or the leader of this area. And here's the royal decree.

What is this, Jamie? Sacrificial stone. Yeah, that's in the movie. 60,000 human sacro. Holy God. You can see where the blood was channeled to drip down from that. I think this is, I'm not sure if this is the one, but there was one stone where they would tie somebody onto the stone. And he would fight several people until he finally died.

It's like a, I don't know, it's like a sacrifice above it, like a fighting sacrifice. It was a different type of sacrifice they did. Human intelligence applied to cruelty is very bizarre. It's very bizarre when you see... Yeah, torture. Yeah. Torture, just that kind of stuff. Just what people would do for just pure entertainment or ritual or to...

I mean, because everyone's afraid to die. So you just show death in the worst form in the most cruel and uncaring, sacrificial form in front of everybody, children, cutting people's hearts out while they're still alive, and just keeps everybody on edge. It's a spectacle. Yeah. This is part of the show where I talk about AG1, which I've done for years, and usually I like to talk about routine. And don't get me wrong, because routine is super important, and AG1 is exactly the kind of daily, easy routine that can help you feel healthy

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evil which for sure they were and they came over here and there's this good people that were just living off the land in harmony like eh not really in fact they were killing each other yeah not only that that was their favorite thing to do where we are right now the Comanches all those motherfuckers did was eat meat they didn't have any artwork they didn't have anything other than bows and arrows that's all they made they made teepees they made bows and arrows and they fucked everybody up and their favorite thing was to go to a nearby tribes and kill everybody.

Yeah. That was their fun time. They loved to, and they would torture people in the most horrific ways. In Empire of the Summer Moon, which is an amazing book on the Comanche from right in this spot, and they would take people that they captured, they would cut their arms and legs off while they were alive. So they would hold them down, immediately hack their arms and legs off, and then throw them on a bonfire to watch them wiggle.

fucking yo like you gotta be that's dark yeah that's that's bloodlust I don't know what that is I mean if let's say let's say they did that in front of the enemy the enemy that they just conquered

yeah well they would keep one guy alive to watch and let him go yeah go tell everybody psychological operations so everybody else gets butchered one guy that let go you go tell everybody no we're out here

no No. And also, like, if you think about it, some of the horrors that are still happening down south. Yeah. Which is we sent me this message last night of these six or seven. I'll send it to Jamie because it's pretty crazy how often this stuff happens down in Mexico and how little of it we ever hear about it. We don't really hear too much about these insane mass murders that take place down there. There was a beheading down in Mexico.

And it was, it's a safe or not a historically safe part of Mexico that where this type of stuff doesn't happen that much. But things are changing rapidly down there. It's evolving quickly. The, and the culture that we have down there, the, the culture that we have down there, the, the, the, I don't know. Like, I do believe that there's some sort of genetic memory. I bet there is. It makes sense.

I think there's genetic memory. Six severed head founds on the side of the road, the chilling message of one of Mexico's safest regions. And what part of Mexico is this? I think it's a Puebla region, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Puebla and Puebla. I mean, it's a beautiful place. If you go to Puebla, visit Puebla, guys. It's beautiful.

just don't be there the wrong time i just don't work for the cartels i guess um the the act so this is an interesting thing that i i heard long ago from somebody um i i uh one of the first jobs i did was cut cut somebody off a bridge and one of the older guys that was with me i was like horrified by what but by this kid you know 16 17 year old kid um told me oh they're being kind of that I'm like, what's kind about leaving somebody hanging from a fucking bridge naked? His family's going to get something to bury at least. So it dawned on me that that was an act of kindness. So having somebody beheaded is even...

So normal. It's even crueler. Yeah. Because they have no body. They have no body to bury. And there's a lot of coffins with just the head or not even that in Mexico buried in the ground. But just think of how insane it has to be. to where hanging someone from ridge is an act of kindness

because at least you could find the body. It is the evolution of what is considered normal in Mexico. People will get shot by the dozens. People will get displayed in this horrific and people will just go back to work. That's every day. And that's the scary part of it, I think, for most of the people that live down there

is how normalized it has become. It's not an abnormal thing to hear some of these things. And this is not, in terms of America, our understanding of Mexico and cartel culture, this is not something that was ever talked about when I was in high school. It was never talked about when I was a young man. It never came up. It wasn't a thing in the news. Cartel violence was not. I think the first time people start getting like an inkling of this was in the 90s when the phenomenon of this guy, Adolfo Constant.

so happened. This was on the, this was on the border between Texas and Juarez area. He was a, they called him the narco satanico, the Satanist narc. Oh, boy. He was a high-level practitioner of something called Palo and Santeria. And he would do rituals for people, like in cartels. And he started his own cartel because he was pretty successful at social engineering and folk magic, basically, is what he was doing. And at some point, he started believing in his power, and he instructed some of the members of his gang to abduct an American because he needed a brain for his cauldron, where he would do some of these rituals. And I think that's the first time Americans got a little, like a small glimpse of the underground brutality, monster, religious occultism, and just torture.

and murder that has been going on down there for many years. But it has gotten really bad in the past 20, 30 years. So this has always been going on? In a lot of ways, yes, brutality in Mexico has been going on for a while. But cartel brutality? Like when did the cartels really start gaining power? I think the 70s, 70s and 80s is when we start seeing the formation of the first large organizations and federations that are working to produce and or to,

to traffic substances through Mexico up into the United States. Was it originally cocaine? Marijuana. I think originally heroin actually was at the start or the initiation of a lot of this stuff. And where were they getting the heroin? They were planting poppy in the Sierra for the war effort, apparently, for the Americans, because they were running out a shortage of morphine, so they needed a place to plant it. and that's one of the places where they kind of started like oh they can grow this here

and people are getting ideas this is the vietnam war yeah around yeah this is that's a Vietnam World War II era that that's when you started seeing the initiation of like people planting certain things so 40s 50s 60s somewhere around that 50s yeah wow well it's like Vietnam itself is connected to heroin yeah because that that's the dirty secret about we were interested in that whole area of Vietnam and that was a trafficking area. Yeah. Yeah. And coincidentally, a lot of people got insanely rich somehow or another connected to that,

but we had to be over there to stop communism or something. And it's an interesting point you bring up of Vietnam because it has something to do or elements of it remind you of Mexico. It is Mexico has been a place that has been ruled over by a single party for 80 years, if that, the PRI. And then it went through its democratic period, and now we have other parties coming into play. And now we have a ruling party all over Mexico called Morena, who is, you know, this is the party of the Abrazos Novalazos. That's how they started, you know, hugs not bullets against the cartels policy, which allowed them to grow. And also...

Super effective. Hugs, not bullets. But this is coming off a... Mexico as liberals, too, I guess. Yes, we do. Mexico's three things. Southern Mexico, that's rural Mexico. Central Mexico, that's where all the woke comes from, the capital of Mexico.

Mexico City. That's where all the general pronouns get issued into law. That's where violence against women specifically and feminicide is now a new thing catalogued under law. you can kill a dude, you're smart, but if you kill a woman, that's feminicide, which is way worse. So that's where a lot of that policy comes from, and then northern Mexico where I'm from, that's where, I guess, I don't know, conservative, that's where all the factories are. That's where all the people, the hardworking people and people that kind of like go the other side of the politics that are woke.

That used to be the case, but now Morena is all ruling all over the country. And a lot of the policies they're bringing with them are, you know, to the left. Mexico was very tired from the drug war that it had been going on for 20 years that I was a part of for 12 of those years. They saw Felipe Calderon bring the military into this fight to fight the cartels and just kicking a giant beehive. He had realistically, he really didn't have a clue what he was about to kind of kick off. he had the idea that if you just put the military out which are not corrupted well he thought they were not corrupted

and you militarized a lot of the policing going on around that you can eliminate all these cartel members like oh this guy's gone this guy's gone and we're going to just now secure this area and control but it's been just basically gremlins you know

one gremlin will turn into four or five you cut one head off and it's hydro just a bunch of heads come out now. So Mexico has been going through that for a while. And then this president comes in, Manuel Lopez Obrador, with this plan on like, we'll just leave him alone and they'll stop. Violence will stop because we'll stop fighting them. How'd that work? He has one of the most violent presidencies in history. His main, he criticized Calderon who started this drug war over his handling of it. He out he outmatches him from death during his administration what we saw in his administration

was the politicalization and they were already in politics but they now they're really overt about it now cartels are like they have their own candidates running for office the mayor of a city and the police chief of the city they're all cartel members and the police force they're all caught cartel members in parts of Mexico oh boy all of the political killings that happen in Mexico don't happen because there's a bunch of John F. Kennedy's out there that are trying to change things, right? It's because that cartel is sponsoring that candidate. And this cartel is sponsoring that candidate, so I don't want your candidate to win, so I'm going to go shoot them. Well, there was some insane amount of murders during the last election. Wasn't it like 30 plus

murders? See if you can find out how many murders there was. That sounds about, so it sounds about right. It is, again, these criminal organizations have politicized. They figured out that, you know, how can we operate in this region without having too much issues? Right. Let's put, let's make the mayor our guy. Right. And let's elect the governor. So.

And we like to think that we're innocent over here, but how much different is it with what we do with pharmaceutical drug companies sponsoring people? Because they pay for people's campaigns. And those people get in with a specific understanding of what kind of laws you need to push through, what kind of mandates you need to make, in terms of the, you know, mandating the use of certain medications. It's a different type of corruption. It's different type of corruption, but it's still drugs. Still drugs. Yeah.

Up to 60. 60 politicians in the 2024 general and local elections. 60 politicians were assassinated during pre-campaign and campaign periods. Fucking yo. Imagine if that was going on in America. Marjorie Terrell Greens get whacked. AOC's getting whacked. Like, that would be fucking crazy.

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Switch today at visible.com slash rogan. Terms apply. See visible.com for plan features and network management details and and it is a clear sign that whatever division people had in their heads about the cartels are this organization here and they're they don't they're not openly at least involved in any of this political stuff and no no all that shit's gone um something happened something happened last year um the arrest of one of the biggest cartel heads in history from mexico el mayo sambada he was arrested in texas he was arrested in texas He flew into a private air, they flew him into a private airfield under pretty interesting circumstances and then handed, he handed himself over to authorities. He was arrested there, I mean, that kicked off a lot of violence in Mexico.

Why was he willing to fly in? So there's different stories around it. He's told his own story. He's actually talked about this many times openly with his drivers and stuff like I were driving around. So he just speaks about it. He's older now. He was a ghost. This is, Elmayo Sambada was the legitimate leader of the Sinaloa cartel.

The U.S. would say that it was Chapo Guzman. Not really. The Sinala cartel was a federation. And a lot of the bigger, older parts of that cartel were kind of headed up by this figure, El Mio Sambada, who in 50 years was never arrested, never grabbed, never caught. You would hear about them, about him vaguely in certain circles. but everybody knew that guy is the head of the Sinaloa cartel or he's the bigger guy in that organization which is a federation of groups last time i was here it was after the kulia canasso

the incident where they rescued ovidio one of ill chapo's uh sons two years ago they finally got up to him right the army did this operation same thing happened all the cartels burned the city block rose and stuff like that a lot of uh special operations that soldiers died in his arrest, a few of them. And he was finally arrested and extradited to the United States. Conversations probably happened in the United States with the video when he was finally in U.S. custody. And El Chapo Guzman is in a hole, and he's not going to get it out of the hole.

His son's probably figured out that if they don't want to get into a hole, too, they probably need to cut a deal. And I think, and the theory is, that that deal, probably... probably included handing over the head of this, you know, law car, tell him Maya Zambada. Sawed by U.S. law enforcement for more than two decades. He was taken into custody after arriving in a private plane at Texas airport with Guzman's son. Joaquin Guzman Lopez. Guzman Lopez is pleaded not guilty to federal, not guilty, to federal drug trafficking charges in Chicago.

His brother, Avideo Guzman Lopez pleaded guilty last month. Zimbada said that he was kidnapped in Mexico and hauled to the U.S. Lopez whose lawyer denies those claims. So this is the shady stuff that happened. Elmayo gets brought into a meeting in Sinaloa by, by Joaquin, who is, he's not one of the, he's not really into the drug. He's not one of the powerful brothers of the Chapaguzman brothers that are in the drug trade. He's kind of like wanting out, basically.

So at some point he cuts a deal. and in this deal he's good I'm going to get this guy on a plane and I'm going to fly him over you know and we're going to make a deal that's the story he has him he has a Maya come into a meeting

between the governor of Sinaloa which is known publicly people know this the governor of Sinaloa was going to be in the meeting with Omaio Sambalao cartel who is a member of Morana the current ruling party all over the country also no investigation also he's still in power which is shady as fuck

between him and a man named Gwen, who was, I think he was the director of the university there. They had some sort of political dispute, and Elmaya was being brought in to, I don't know, negotiate or like influence that, which tells you a lot about how the cartels and politics and the universities are tied, right? At that meeting, Nemesia Quinn, who is, Quinn, who is a friend of Elmio, the guy who's the director of the, the, guy who's the director of the university gets killed.

They shoot him. There's a video published of a gas station shootout where supposedly this man who was the director of the university gets killed. But it's fucking made up by the state prosecutor. They're trying to make this shit go away. Meanwhile, all this stuff starts unraveling. Oh, the abducted O'Mayo at that meeting.

And that's why they kill this guy. We don't know, or at least I don't know if there's any specific confirmation that the governor of seen the law was there um but he said he went to the u.s he was in the u.s he wasn't there but there's no travel logs of him being in the us it's a it's a shit show they somehow overtake his bodyguards uh el mio's bodyguards they're gone nobody knows where they went probably dead somewhere uh got el mio on a plane and flew him into Texas. Homeland security was apparently involved. FBI says that they may have been involved. But last time I was here was talking about at some point, we're going to see either a direct

U.S. intervention or military action in Mexico that's going to kick off things. And I think that was it. Wow. After that happened, El Chapo Guzman's sons cut deals. 17 members of the Guzman family, family were secretly flown to Tijuana and crossed the border with suitcases and were put into FBI vans and suitcases yeah they they they they rescued their family members and they took him out of the country so they're in the u.s. somewhere um under some kind of protective custody yeah of course um and if you want to talk about people that know everything like all the ins and outs Elmayo Sambales, he's the guy.

He knows. Where is he being detained? I think he's in New York, and I think he just declared himself guilty, and he's probably going to cut a deal. He's older. He's diabetic. He's not going to spend life in prison. El Chapo Guzman went to...

Which is wild. And you think about how long he was running shit and how many people died and how many drugs got... He learned his trade craft from... He learned his trade... craft in L.A. Here it is. It's August 25th, so it's soon.

A Brooklyn federal judge on Monday scheduled August 25th change of plea hearing for Zimbada, long-time leader of Mexico-Sinoloa cartel. Development comes two weeks after federal prosecutors said they wouldn't seek the death penalty against him. There's a deal there. And I don't...

They're going to put him in the same prison as Glein Maxwell. I don't see him jogging, but yeah. Probably. Doing yoga. Bore. So this, there's a deal coming. And I, there's a, there's this sense in the U.S. that, you know, Trump came into power and declared these organizations, terrorist organizations.

And there was an, there was an expectation that that meant gloves off and you're going to see military action pretty soon. But what we've seen has been a very calculated surgical operation. It looks like, I don't know. I mean, you see, they took out the head of the Cina Loa cartel, and Cina Loa has been on fire ever since. It is open warfare between the last remaining sons of Ochapo Guzman and the sons of O'Ma who are now...

I've seen video. It's bananas. It is a war zone on the streets. See if you can find some of that Cina Loa video, Jamie, because it is shocking. When this war kicked off between these two factions in Tinelloa, schools closed. People didn't want to go out because their cars were going to get jacked to get burned and put in the middle of the street. Companies closed. All of the luxury environment around these criminal organizations that they built up.

I mean, these were criminal organizations that had Louis Vuitton stores and click on, you know, And exotic cars being sold in store, in these dealerships and all of the bands that would play live music at their places and all these exotic seafood places, all these places just, and how are they going to sustain themselves now? This economy started crashing. And it's the Mexican government comes out, the president, the president, the current president, Shane. comes out and she blames this state being on fire the U.S. Like the U.S. came in here and abducted El Maya Sambada, a Mexican national. And they charged Joaquin Guzman, who was involved in the operation to pick up El Mio. They charged him with high treason in Mexico for abducting El Maya somebody and putting him in the U.S., which is...

High treason. He's charged with high treason. for abducting a drug lord yes whoa which is like i don't know like i'm doing the math on all that um wow but you have this you have this situation now where she's blaming the u.s we're basically causing stability give me some volume on this oh this is this is the members of elmio's family

shooting up all the luxury houses of those chapitos I hope these guys are using ear protection No, they're not We'll talk about that in a bit Yeah, you can probably sneak up on all those motherfuckers They're probably all deaf But they're basically shooting up all the luxury apartments That they know are owned by the Chapos

In that area They love 100 round drum magazines in Mexico for some reason? That's a 50 cow with no hearing protection. Why? You don't need it. How many of those guys are deaf? A lot of them have a severe

hearing locks. I recently went to Halisco with a friend of mine who's a he has a YouTube channel called The Connect Johnny Mitchell. He talks to drug dealers and people in that life. There's a friend of mine in Mexico and he's basically the Mexican Sean Ryan. Aghafe 423 is his handle.

And he interviews like cartel members and people from that life. Oof. And do they wear masks or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked to a kid that was six months out of working with the what is currently, I think, priority number one,

should be priority number one for the U.S., the New Generation Cartel. This militarized. cartel out of Halisco that has been with this war going on between the Sunalam factions I mean it's Christmas for them so when when when when went down there he introduced us to his kid who is freshly off basic that he was involved in tank warfare on the borders between Halisco and Sakatecas against Los Mayos who you see there firing at this houses tanks they they they

They're making their own tanks. If you get your truck stolen up here and probably gets driven to Mexico, they're going to make a tank out of it, probably. They're making these artisanally made tanks, basically. Mostly what they are. Like that? Yeah. That's a pretty old one. I think that's the Zeta period.

That's cool, though. It looks like a fucking Mad Max vehicle. But what they do is they make these tanks. And his job was to be in the back of one of these with a 50-Cal rifle. So what they do is you'll get into a dirt road and they'll put their trucks like this with their backs turn. And I was like, why don't you just ram them with the front? The engine will go out.

You have to ram them with the back of the truck. So they'll just go into like this destruction derby in the hills and shoot at each other until there's a clear winner is what they do, basically. And their main weapons are 50 gallons. or rifles. So they'll be in the back of the truck and they're like, now, now, now.

And they'll just, somebody's on radio inside the cabin trying to call out what's going on. And they'll pop out and start. How come no one's figured out of ear protection? They put bullets in their ears. I've seen that. They put like plastic things in their ears. But realistically, they don't get shit

and they're expendable. That's why they don't get. That's why there's no ear in protection. Yeah, but you get like a pair of Walker's game. years on Amazon. It's not that expensive. No, none of that is down there. This kid walked us through how he was all the way from his recruitment, through his training, through this tank warfare thing that they sent him on. And now into his life where he was like, why I laughed about your question about hearing protection is I was the first person that showed him what tinnitus was and what

hearing loss was because he kept like, what did you say? It's like, hey, dude, do you have, hearing loss? Like, no, like, I just, you know, like, dude, you have severe hearing loss from what you went through. Yeah, probably. These are tanks going after each other?

Yeah, that's, this is, you'll see this in different, I mean, they're fighting over drug routes, basically, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, Christ, they're so close to each other. It's, it's, it's, it's, 50 caliber at, like, a 10 foot distance.

And, um, the, the drones are now involved in this as well because why not? Of course. So the and the way he was recruited is pretty interesting. He was an Uber driver. This kid, again, you will look at it.

This kid if you found him somewhere, just normal kid. It's 23 right now, I think, but looks like a kid. Uber driver crashes into somebody, accident doesn't have enough money to pay the extra for the insurance. So he's like, God, what am I going to do? You know, married, newly married.

What am I going to do? It goes on TikTok. And he's using an advertisement on TikTok for like, hey, you need money? This is how much we pay you if you come work with us. It's a cartel advertisement. The cartel uses TikTok to recruit. Yes. Facebook, TikTok.

Of course. But specifically TikTok is one of their biggest recruiting methods. And it's in the open. It's not like you have to access this private page and go and do this. No, it's like, hey, you want to come work for the four letters? Is it the way they call themselves? Yeah. Just call this number, right?

So he called this number. And he was like told to meet somebody at a bus station. He goes, meets these people at the bus station. they put him in a car they checked them like give me your phones give me like we don't want to be tracked and then they drive them to a place where he was

they were going to be trained I guess is what he said and then cops stop them in the road beat the shit out of all of them there torture a few of them what are you doing where are you going they don't tell him anything don't tell him anything

and after they got the beating of their life they got good you passed a test and now you're going to go Oh, so that was what it was for. But the uniformed cops were all cartel members. Oh, my God. And the police, like, all, these are places where everybody's in on it. So it's just to see if you'll crack.

He gets driven to one of these ranches, these training camps. And it's not like, you know, I remember seeing the Al-Qaeda training camps where the guys on the monkey bars and stuff like that. These are military compounds that are, that are, that are, that are, in the sierras in the mountains there was a case recently where they they thought they found these mass graves that turned out to be actually training camp there were dead people there but there was they found all these shoes that mexican they were calling them mexican outsuits um but what they actually found is a processing space like you go there and they

strip off your clothes and your shoes and you leave them there because they give me new shoes because they don't want to be tracked so it was one of those processing places so then and then and you then end up in some of the training camps. He describes active duty military personnel training them in the hills, Mexican military personnel, training them in the hills, former special operators from Colombia, former special operators from Mexico. Some from America as well, right? There's rumors, and again, I have not talked directly to anybody that knows of that, that had eyes on them, but there are rumors. of at least two American specialists of some sort because I've heard Delta forests and seals and I don't know but there there is a clear communication of

methods and technology IEDs are a thing in Mexico now like IEDs are very reminiscent of things that you would see in Afghanistan and Iraq and the only way that they come over here is not from an Afghani or Iraqi coming over and showing us how to do IEDs. It's probably an EOD tech of some sort from the U.S. that has some experience that doesn't know how to make some of these. That's one place where they were learning their trade graft.

Another one is Columbia. Colombian operators have been showing up in weird parts of the world fighting. I mean, they're in the Ukrainian war right now learning about drone technology. Some of the operators from Mexico that went to fight in the Ukrainian front are now back in Mexico showing the cartels what they learned about drone

warfare in the Ukraine war. Whoa. So this kid describes this training camp where it's the army. People are marching around. People are in uniform. People are getting trained. And they'll get people brought into this training camp and like, hey, let's see if you're worthy. And they'll give you a gun and like kill.

Just kill some random person. Yeah. And this kid describes how he, that's the first duty he killed, just an armed dude that he was dragged into that camp. Um, so they just drag it, dude, just to see if you're capable of taking someone's life. I think he was one of the guys that tried to run. Oh. Because it's, it's, I mean, it's like, it's like, it's like the military, but they'll kill you there if you fucking fuck up or they'll beat, you know, or they'll beat you, or they'll beat you, flog you. Um, it is a job. It is, it is like a structured job. You get a, you get, you get, you get money paid to you. Uh, every, every 15 days. Uh, and a bonus at the end of the month, you get equipment. You know, you get selected for certain activities.

He was selected for tank duty, and they send him on this fucking tank to fight in the hills. Some people get selected to be to manage some of their drugstores. Some people get managed to just be lookouts. But it's a giant network of people that they've managed to create for themselves in this region, this new generation cartel. It's one of the largest and fastest growing cartels in Mexico. And it is now probably operating all of it. over Mexico and recruiting people on TikTok the most of the their recruiting is through TikTok yes openly and again it's not it's not you don't have to search for it it's

it's there um people smugglers advertise on TikTok constantly as well like they'll have videos of people here in Texas that went through the border recently and with a newspaper like hey I'm in Texas now look at the newspaper and like they were but they were in Mexico like a few hours later a few hours before with the newspaper and like this is saul saul is the best smuggler out there hire him for like a safe crossing this is on ticot i mean it's in the open it's people people people don't realize how how big of a tool that's being utilized in mexico is a recruiting tool it's propaganda tool as well uh that's what they'll talk shit to each other through that medium um how did this kid get out he ran

I think he managed to prove himself a bit and he managed to get the favor of one of their leaders and he told them like, hey, I know you don't want to be here. Leave your shit and run, I guess. Don't come back. Don't look back. Oh, so they let him run? They'll let him run. But not everybody gets that opportunity. So it was just somebody who liked him, maybe?

He got, he got, he got, he said he worked well in that organization. He got favor and eventually said, you know what? I have a wife and a kid that I need to get back to you. Is there a way? Let him go. How long was he being held? I think he said something about six or eight months. And he went through some shit.

Most of what he went through was in the border between Halisco and Sakatecas where the mayos are trying to fight over that territory. It's basically one of the corridors up into the border region of Mexico, through Mexico. So that's, people are always fighting over these, these regions. He came back with PTSD, hearing loss. And again, all these things are unknown. He's a Mexican kid without health insurance. How is he going to know any of these things? Right.

When I talked to him for a bit, he was like, oh, that makes sense. I was like, yeah, do you drink a lot? Yeah. I don't know why. I used to drink a shit done, you know? Nightmares, yeah. like rage moments yeah like this sounds like you have PTSD dude like sit down um so but he's like one in a thousand thousands of kids like that out there who are gone through some of these things um

both on the military and police side and also the cartel side highly traumatized individuals that just but there's no there's nothing for them down there if they talk about what they did they're in trouble if they look for help there's no help there's no help out there. So this kid is trying to reform his life with all this fucking damage in him. He lost his family. Wow. That he fought so much to get back to.

Which is you know, it's one small story and tragedy of but you go to Halisco and they have a roundabout there in Halisco it's the Disapparecilles where the missing are and it's covered in posters of missing people.

in Wallahara. It is like one of those zombie movies where they have all these, like the missing people posters on the, because zombie outbreak happened. It's like that, except it's people. 100,000 according to official numbers in Mexico

as far as missing. It's gone. And that's another aspect of this war that people don't kind of like realize. The numbers are skewed, you know, because there's no, there's no confirmed dead person for a number of the amount of people murdered if there's no body. And Mexico has become very good at getting rid of bodies, the cultures in Mexico. I was in Kuala, working with a tactical group out there.

They showed me, I mean, I'm always learning from people. different regions have different ways of getting rid of bodies some just burn them just throw fuel on them to see if they can burn in this part of the country Coelah which is on the east side of the country they will heat up

fuel drums with diesel inside of them and diesel can get really hot without igniting and that's where they put the bodies inside basically boil them down to their essential essence and there's nothing to find is what they tell me with that process. You go to my hometown of Tijuana.

That's where we had a... Wheeling cauldrons of diesel to dispose bodies. Yeah. And then you go to Tijuana where I'm from and then you got the phenomenon of a posolero who would get rid of people with caustic soda, which is a mixture of chemicals that you could buy find at an hardware store

and they would make people into pink slurry and just dump the pink flurry in a hole and just cover it up. So the numbers that we see as far as dead and missing, there's, there's, there's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a real number. It has to be bigger. Um, you know, it's, it is, it is a, it is a place where you'll go into some towns and there's just a bunch of old men and females. Because all the, all the men were gone, you know, uh, or you'll see, um, you'll see, um, you'll see like these abandoned graves in some place. This, this, there was, I talked to a lady who's a part of some of these, uh, uh, uh, there's these organizations all over the country right now there are grassroots organizations that are basically just dedicated to finding clandestine body disposal places they're looking for their family members basically uh how do you say that word isaguere that yeah that's a that's uh that's uh that's the that's the one i told you that was people were trying to make it seem like this was like an extermination camp how do you say the word isagir a high concentrations of ash they just the presence of clandestine crematoriums. Yeah, it, it, it, it, it, it, bodies were disposed of there, not at the volume of an Auschwitz level thing, um, but yeah, there were, there were definitely people getting burned there.

So they're just killing people all the time. Yeah. I mean, body disposal to a level where there's nothing left is, is something you do in a place where you're worried about the government catching you. But this is, this is, this is Guadalajara, this is new generation cartel of territory. They're not worried about body being about it. Um, there's no, the forensic services in some of these places are like, here, here's some spent casings from this murder.

Oh, thank you. Just throw them in this hill of, the giant hill of casings that they have in this evidence locker, right? Um, they're overwhelmed. Uh, there's no, like, also you can't solve any crimes. You're dead. 90% of all murders. Imagine your job.

If you do it well, you're dead. Yeah. Exactly. But you're not going to do it well. 90% of all murders in Mexico are never solved 90 maybe a bit

over that so it's you you have this cartel now that is you know you have El Mayo somebody's gone

El Chapo's sons are cutting a deal one of them apparently has made an alliance with the head of the the new generation cartel a man by El Mancho is the nickname

is El Mention Nemesio Seguera Cervantes is his real name. Last time I was here, there was like, almost five years ago, I was here. There were questions about if he was even alive or not. You know, people thought he was like being kept alive as this folk figure because he's low-key, very low-key, not like, he's not flashy.

Everything's militarized. He's very good at his tradecraft. But recently, you know, he's very much alive. He was very much exposed himself a few times. He was almost arrested recently, and the federal police apparently tipped off his security about the operation against them. It's the second time he was almost arrested. He's the biggest target right now in Mexico. We recently learned through the media of the Trump's authorization of utilizing military action in Latin America in general, all the way from Venezuela, all the way up to Mexico.

And, you know, you hear these rumblings of, like, how is this military operation going to look like? Is this going to be an invasion? You know, are we going to see, like, a column of U.S. Marines driving down to Tijuana? I'm probably getting spent some time in Tijuana. It's probably not a good idea. Are we going to see, like, people, Delta Force guys showing up in Tijuana and Kulia Khan and going on a raid on their own without permission of the local authorities? What's this going to look like? I don't see a direct trust between Mexico and the, Mexico and the United States anymore.

There's like, there's issues there. The U.S. has realized that politics are, are compromised at high level in Mexico. Completely. With the example of the recent almost arrest of Nemesio Segal Cervantes-Lemencho, you see that the federal forces are compromised as well. So, like, who do you trust as an American force that is trying to, cut the stem of drugs into this country

is kind of the excuse that they're utilizing for this designation. And then who do you trust down there? I posted I'm friends with a bunch of dorks and they're all looking at flight tracker and intelligence stuff like that and I'm a dork too.

And one of them sent me this suspicious drone, American drone flying over the state of Mexico in circle. and I posted it immediately. You know, I think I was one of the first ones to post it online. And a press briefing happened almost immediately

and the head of public safety in Mexico, Omar Garcia-Fusch said like, oh, yeah, this is, we asked for this drone to fly over this area. Who did you ask? This is not a military drone, but we asked for it to fly over this area, which I don't think he knows what the fuck's going on.

I don't know why the... I don't think he knows why there's a... drone flying out over a very specific part of Mexico. I don't know. It seemed like he didn't or either he didn't want to reveal this drone or, but there have been many times recently of drones just flying close to the border or over, over Mexico. They're clearly drawing a map, an intelligence map, of targets in Mexico. So something is coming, I think.

Whoa. But what is it going to look like, though? Right. The question that people are asking, I don't know. No, speaking to somebody like Gaffey down in Mexico, he was a former member of the special operations. And I asked him, like, hey, what is the military going to do with the U.S. says, like, we're going in without your approval? He said, well, if you start fighting the cartels without approval of the Mexican government, you will turn criminal organizations into freedom fighters. And they're all already integrated into the military in certain ways because some of them are working for them and some of them are working for us.

So you will make the whole a cohesive force against you. Oh, boy. Which is an interesting theory, you know, if that happens. That seems likely. It does. Yeah, because there's like anti-U.S. sentiment already. And then also the closing of the borders and it's a perfect storm. I mean, Trump.

And Trump is divisive. And in Mexico, he has been turned into this very clear, like, enemy. Like, this is the enemy, you know, specifically by politicians down there. He's pretty easy to just vilify. Like, it says, well, you know, why is Sinaloa on fire? Maybe it's because you have a corrupt governor there who was clearly in cartel ties and stuff like that, who's part of your party, but you haven't figured out how to get him out of office. maybe it's at or no it's the u.s because they abducted elmio that's why that place is on fire

that's their charge someone with treason that's why they charge somebody with high treason which is unheard of but there you go um so like who who are you going to trust in that realm and so mexico has pressed the whole the u.s is responsible for this and they're kind of wiping their hands from it and the u.s. keeps pointing their finger at the high level government which is There's something, again, five years ago, I spoke about this on this podcast and I got a lot of shit for it. I said, there's no way of going after cartels in Mexico without going after the government because they're one and the same in a lot of places. And that was back then and now it's even more clear as how tie they are.

If nothing happens, if the United States doesn't do anything, how much bigger can the cartels get? This is the question. It's like, what is going to? to happen to just this entire country. If you have a, if you have, and this is what, that's why you have a lot of conflicts happening in routes that are leading towards a border. The scene along cartel operated

in a very old fashioned way, you know, they wouldn't, no cagas in the comas, it was their politics, don't shit where you eat was their politics for a long time. you saw a change in this when the brutality aspect and how this shit changed in Mexico there was an incident

members of Los Ariano Felix cartel, a Tijuana cartel, were in a direct conflict with elements of Occhapo, Guzman's organization. And they had a assassin they had an assassin basically infiltrate the living circle of one of El Chapo's main guys, El Guero Palma. And he seduced his wife,

killed her, and abducted his kids, and threw them off a bridge, and sent that video to Eluelo Palma. And I think after, I mean, brutal shit had happened after that, before that, I think that set off this. At some point, that whole war that happened, you know,

you start getting the element of the Zetas coming in, who were former special operator guys who basically said, like, we can start our own cartel, which a lot of them were Fort Bragg trained individuals that went down, yeah, some of them, some of them went through the Green Beret course. The four nationals go through that course. So they went to the Greenbury course, and then they go back to Mexico, and then as soon as they get back to Mexico, like, oh, congratulations on your cool Green Beret and all this training.

Come train hard guys, or come work for us. So at some point, all of this started militarizing the conflict in Mexico. It went from gang against gang violence, which is like very reminiscent of some of the stuff that happened up here during the gang era. or some of the Al Capone era, you know, shootouts between people. The Zetas changed the game. They started bringing in guerrilla warfare tactics into this realm.

They started doing all of those torture videos and cartel execution videos. That comes from them. They realize that part of a guerrilla warfare campaign is propaganda. And how can you make Prock began up shooting a guy in a field. Right.

So they changed that game. They started realizing that, yeah, it's one thing having a kid with like sneakers on the back of a truck with an AK whose dad was part of the organization and he brought his kid in. But it's probably a better idea to have militarized or paramilitary groups working with us, you know. So they started getting these evolutions of ideas of what a criminal organization should be. And all of that, you know, the members of the new generation cartel that are now kind of like dominating Mexico started off as a Zeta hunting force that the Zeno law cartel formed in Halisco. And they said like, well, we can do this for ourselves now too as well. So that's how they originated in a lot of ways.

So this organization has taken the textbook learning process of all these other cartels and is now this cartel. with all this foundation, educational foundation, as far as how to set up an organization, how to set up all these transnational routes, how to operate on both sides of the border, how to augment their capabilities constantly through technology. Drone warfare was first seen, I think, in Mexico. You saw drones dropping bombs and shit like that in Mexico

before the Ukrainian conflict. But they got really good at it. I mean, the Ukrainians have fucking taken that shit to an art form. There are Mexican nationals fighting for their foreign services, their foreign brigades in the Ukraine. And some of them have gone into that route, drone operators. And some of them are coming back. And you started seeing this sudden sophistication. It used to be bomblets dropped from these commercial drones and the explosives and the more probably mining level explosives.

You started seeing these, the, these, the, um, these, uh, these, uh, bomblets made and they were more reminiscent of Colombian explosives or IRA era explosives and now you're seeing these coordinated drone attacks on military forces in Mexico I think they recently got a some high-level army official they got them with a drone didn't kill them but they almost they almost killed them so we started seeing these drone now being operating as scouts so you can't get close to them because these drones are in the sky. So now you're seeing drone cartels fighting against other cartel drones.

So now we're seeing cartel guys with these futuristic drone anti-drone guns in the field. I've seen those things, yeah. They look like space guns. But on the hands of a cartel guy wearing sandals, which is what the fuck's going on with these people? So you start seeing all this augmentation of capabilities. This single cartel now has all of this history behind it. All of these lessons behind it, all this training behind all this technology, and it is poised to make punch a hole right through its territory and go up north into the United States, right? There are no segments of the border wall currently that are actually controlled and or a city that is controlled by the new generation cartel that is on the border.

That's not the case now. But there are places that are starting to maybe look like they're going that way. Tijuana being one of them, where I'm from. You start seeing the last remaining sons of Alchapa Guzman that are free, Archivalo is the strongest one. And his faction of those chapitos is what they call themselves this past year announced that they had reached an alliance with this new cartel, this new generation cartel. So it's now it's a cohesive force and they had historical ties and a part of the border that they owned already that they inherited from their dad so that nightmare scenario having this cartel now having a clear doorway into the United States is pretty close if it's not there already

and how wild would it be if the border was still wide open because they've cut down on illegal immigrants by some high 90 percent yeah it's it's way down there's still crossings going on oh yeah it's just it's really expensive it's really expensive you got to get that guy off TikTok yeah yeah yeah um There's a bunch of ways they do. I saw one where they were like, hey, they'll grab a portfolio full of copies of IDs and like, oh, you look like this dude. And then they'll give you a, you know, they'll just get really drunk before you cross and they'll pretend you're asleep. And they'll give you paperwork that looks like the dude that looks like you.

And that's how they cross up people. And it's a lot, it's very expensive. That's how they cross you. Fastboats, you know. There's a bunch of video. videos online just boats just arriving on the beach and just dudes jumping out it's a classic running and running there's like once they're in they're in there's a shortage of those wave runners there's a shortage of them in me because they just buy them just a well a short trip i mean

if you think if you're you get on one in tijuana and you hop over to san diego yeah it's not that far no and and and they'll swarm it now they'll do many of those boats and and if you're in tj you can see off the coast there's a bunch of navy ships now off the coast there so like which is a cause for alarm for a lot of Mexicans, when I say, Mexicans view any sort of intervention by United States with fear, although they are also fearful of what happens if this is allowed to continue in Mexico, and they don't see any solutions from the government. It seems like the opposite. It seems like it's going more and more towards the cartel. Yeah. So what would happen if the United States didn't infiltrate?

If the United States didn't attack, if something didn't happen, if they just... I mean, I think we're already involved, you know, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this designation that allows a lot of safety, safety's off the type thing against Mexico, against some of these cartels. What's worrying in the eyes of Mexico and in the eyes of Mexicans, I guess, the, you know, the fact that there was a promise of no negotiating with terrorists, or it's, at least it's, it's, it's something that is. assumed, you know, you don't negotiate with terrorists. It's like a thing, you know, but all of a sudden, one of these factions just made a deal and now they're negotiating with them and now all these people are crossing that border, their family members are crossing that border and now in the safety of the United States. The dude that the United States made a deal with is responsible for the death of a few

special operators that were part of his arrest. What are they going to tell their families of that loss and why they died, you know? And also the piles of bodies that were around after both of his arrest attempts. So there's distrust on all sides. Mexicans don't trust the government to solve it because it's a bit... What's the deal with your president? What's her deal? Shame mom?

Woke. Very woke. Very to the left. A few guerrilla forces in Central America have come out and said that she's one of her, that she was one of the resistance fighters with them. Jewish. That's kind of odd. It is very odd for Mexico.

Very loved by large segments of the population. What is there about it that she's loved? Like what it's about her policies or what she represents? I think she's feeding off a lot of the love that they had for Amlo. Amla was our Trump. that's the best way of describing him a populist guy drained a swamp

rhetoric like all these other guys the conservatives can go they're gone we're going to win this he won by a landslide but he keeps talking he kept talking about conservatives and the previous parties but all the Morena party is made up

of all these other politicians just switching sides and joining his party so you know um shame mom shame mom came in with a big job on her hands as far as security she immediately reversed the whole of rasal no velasos that mean there's

balasos on the table now you know I recognize that uh she brought into the into into office with her uh man what did you mean by that when you're saying velasos was uh... Arrasin lovelasos like hugs not hugs not bullets she got rid of that now there's a lot more

there's a lot of balasasas there's more bullets now okay um there's a man Man in power right now, a security official name, Omar Garcia-Fuge, who has a sordid history in Mexico. He comes from people, he has been in circles of people that have been involved in some shit. But he himself has not been, there's nothing on him that we know of, you know, the superpolicea, the super cop is what he called. He's very well loved by his men. I actually talk to a few people that work directly with him. He seems to be like a guy who's willing to go up to task.

And he's receiving all the pressure from the United States. So, like, we need results for you guys. Like, what are you doing? So he has had, he has been heading up operations against some of these organizations, specifically in Sino-Lua. And we've seen record-breaking fentanyl, seizures and high-level politicians being cut up in some of these things. And specifically, the interesting part of the operations he's conducting all over Mexico was he's actually going after municipalities.

So he's going after, like, municipal presidents and some of the local governments that are basically all corrupted. He realizes that, hey, where's the cartel here? Oh, the cartel's a government. Local government's a cartel. Oh. So they do these mass swarm operations

on some of these places where the arrest the police chief, the arrest the mayor, that this is, that he realizes that this is the front that he has to not fight because the cartel isn't just these organizations out in the hills anymore. they're inside, they're infiltrated, they're in politics, you know, and people think about drugs only, but drugs don't, these cartels are fighting for Wachicol as well, fuel trafficking.

You know, there was a family- Avocados. Avocados. If you go to, if you go to Chipotle and order extra guac, you're putting money in the, in the pockets of this new generation cartel or the Famida Michoana. How crazy is that? It's wild. And it's a fuel theft.

theft and the fuel theft side of it, what she calls, what they call it in Mexico is interesting, but that catches, that puts in a lot of people in the United States that have been involved in it, taking illegally siphoned fuel from Mexico by some of these criminal organizations, putting in on a ship and then doing a lot of magic with the paperwork and then it ended up ending up in the U.S. and money exchanging weird hands. So that's another side of it that people don't kind of realize. Um, one of the, uh, look at this. Mexican authorities seized nearly four million gallons of stolen fuel AP news. This has been going on for years and against another part of the way they finance themselves and these criminal organizations have been able to grow without.

Yeah, they branch out. They've diversified years ago. Yeah. So they're not just, even if you shut off the drugs totally, they're still making billions. And in, and low key, Mexico has become first world in a lot of ways. First, we're, you know, we're welcoming all your huddled masses, you know, Mexico is. Mexico is the Statue of Liberty. All of the economic migrants that can't afford to live here in the U.S., move to Mexico.

Oh, yeah, a lot of people do. There's, like, giant communities of America's living down there. When we were in Halisco, we were surprised to find, like, God, the gringo's living in the middle of cartel territory. Well, weren't the Mormons the first people to do that? There was some of the first ones to do some of these communities. but like ex-pack communities down in Mexico are common. Yeah, the Mormons were pretty big down there.

Actually, yeah, yeah. There was, you know, they, you know, I think the last time I was here was when that massacre happened. Yes, yes. So they're, they have Mormon compounds in Mexico. Yeah, armed. Yeah, they've been there since the 1800s.

Yeah, Mitt Romney's dad was Mexican. Yeah. Yeah, Mitt Romney's dad was born in Mexico. That's why he couldn't be president in the United States. It's wild. Wild. Yeah, and Mitt Romney's dad was a part of one of those massive encampments of armed people. Yeah.

Protecting Joseph Smith's ideas. Yeah, crazy. Also, like, I remember, like, when I talked about it on this podcast, Mormons from the U.S. corrected me and said that those guys weren't real Mormons. Oh, how convenient. And I'm like, I don't. Well, didn't they go over there because they didn't want to get rid of polygamy? I think so.

Yeah, there was, they should have stuck around. It's coming back. Polygamy's back in Toronto. Oh, cool. Yeah. Canada, because of Islam, because so many Muslims have moved to Toronto, they made polygamy legal again. Yeah, it was in Canada recently. It was like, wow, it's pretty interesting.

Yeah, good job, guys. Keep, keep at it. The, I think Mexico was on its, Mexico is probably the, you. If you can invest in any country in the world right now, I think Mexico would be it. Really? The industrial plant that it has a lot of the stuff that is leaving China, it's moving to Mexico,

youth, and has a consumer base that is growing exponentially. So how do you get rid of all the violence? Is that possible at this point in time? Is it so soaked into the culture? I think it is. I think we're a tipping point where the, Mexican culture, in general, is, like, sick of it. Like, it doesn't want this shit anymore.

We're seeing attacks on freedom of expression in Mexico in a way, because some of these popular singers that would sing cartel songs are now banned from performing them live. So that's, like, an attack on freedom of speech. But population is pretty cool with it, though. They're letting it slide. So it means that they're kind of, like, ready to give up shit. You became an issue in America, right, where there was a popular singer that they wouldn't allow back into the country, and he had these huge sold-out arena shows.

Yeah, I mean, again, I talked about how if you're going to attack these organizations, you have to attack all of these. Just like you attack al-Qaeda, you attack who finances them, who, and a lot of these organizations were basically utilizing some of these popular singers to launder money or to gain influence in the U.S. sing about their exploits they would pay them to sing about their exploits so when this designation came down it was clear that some of these guys were on the chopping block the terrorist designation came down from the government the U.S. government is clear that some of these singers are going to be on the shopping block wow another phenomenon is that the U.S. is actually this the guy four million listeners on Spotify every month yeah he was killed in a parking lot yesterday he was killed in a parking lot yesterday oh wow

Musician who celebrated drug cartel exploits and songs Shot Dead in Park and Lott in Mexico Oh yeah, yeah, this is yesterday. Yeah, Enig... Is this today? The Enigna... Yes. Wow.

Yeah, this is the singer, yeah, Grupo Enigma. He used to hang out with Amaya and El Chapo Guzman and talk about it openly on podcast in Mexico. And, you know, that's another phenomenon that's currently happening, YouTubers. Since it was so normalized in Mexico, just a bunch of YouTubers started popping up like, I'm a cartel YouTuber.

I'm going to talk about cartel stuff on YouTube. And they've been getting, when the Chapitos and the Mayos started fighting over Sinaloa, those Mayos put a plane up and started disperse in Pantlets with pictures of all the YouTube influencers that they knew were helping out the Chapitos faction or they were working with them.

And they've been going down that list. They recently killed one one dude at his house who was talking about cartels, you know. So. Like TMZ for cartels? Yeah. Yeah. They, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that's him.

He, uh, apparently the cartel hired, uh, a, uh, Hacker to figure out to send a link to his wife that she opened and they tracked the track that they tracked them where they were hiding Wow Like he was he's also he was all over social media in Mexico and and even even regular media in Mexico talking about the cartels As of Sunday no arrest had been reported No somebody's walked into his house with a scheme ask and shot him through the bathroom door when you try to hold it shut And again this is these are all signs that

the populace in Mexico independently of cartels just the general mass of Mexico is this is the tipping point they're done with this they don't want this anymore which you know

what do you do with that energy that momentum how many people are we talking about when you're talking about all the cartels how many people are in there thousands I'd say so if it was an army how big would the army be

I don't know, 400,000 people, maybe. Whoa. Just like doing really quick math in my head of, like, approximations of how many new generation cartel members are apparently out there, which there's no way, real way of knowing, but there are the formulation. How many Taliban were in Afghanistan? I don't know. Jamie, Google that.

During the height of the war, how many Taliban were in Afghanistan? And then you see these organizations. I mean, there's the people. fighting out there the people in charge the people settling up shop the people in finance the people that are running the shell companies the people that are running the actual companies because these cartels own companies you know so like okay look at this early estimates from 2001 to 2017 range from 45,000 to 60,000 yeah I think there's way more fighters down there than how crazy is that

so we were we spent trillions of dollars we were there for 20 years in Afghanistan for 60,000 dudes that were hiding out in the mountains. And then we left, and we left behind Black Hawk helicopters, tanks. And a lot of those firearms are showing up in Mexico. Oh, of course. They're for sale. The night vision equipment, night vision, like, high, sophisticated and expensive.

I know about night vision. I've been learning about all this stuff in the U.S. from my friends. We're all gun nuts. and I'm looking at like oh god look at these like dude where are those they're in a house and cool they're gone it's like holy shit dude how the fuck that they get from

there's routes I bet dude's got on a plane the moment the US left they were like look at all this shit we got money let's make a deal with these guys yeah weaponry is coming coming in from that side obviously the US is responsible for most of the gun running

down to Mexico well let's talk about Operation Fast and Furious which was bananas. Wide receiver. It started off as white receiver, I think. That was the original name for it? It's a Bush era. It's a big era.

It's a big era. So Bush administration, it was a wide receiver, and then Obama administration, it was fast and furious. And again, I'm going to speak of this. My participation in all this was I was in Mexico and a bunch of my friends got killed with those guns. Wow. We started to see, just imagine, I'm in my 20s back then.

And, you know, we get in shootouts and people are running around with guns and stuff like that. But it's mostly like AR-15s, AK-47, some of them are really rusty and old, Norinco rifles from China, just weird firearms. And all of a sudden, you start finding people with 50-calver Barrett rifles with scopes on them. Zeroed in, in the box, with munitions. And then you look at the box where they came in and you see a label that says that was, zone on it. And you're like, ah, cavern, you know, that's a weird thing to find on this fucking crack house that we're at. And then a few of my friends got killed with these FN57 pistols that come. It's a high velocity round that comes in them. It was kind of fabricated in the Cold War to fight Russians invading Europe. And they wanted to be able to penetrate their body armor with small pistols and small subguns that they might have in urban areas. So we started seeing those. And just a massive amount of firearms being delivered specifically

to have seen the lower cartel groups in the area that we're working with. And we didn't know anything about it, like where all these things coming from. Apparently, in the U.S., during the Bush administration, they started an operation that was meant to track firearms being straw purchased in places like Arizona and other parts of the U.S. By individuals being gathered by cartel members put into cars and then driven down to Mexico to supply the cartels. The ATF was involved in all this.

Eric Holder was very involved in all this. Their plan or theory was, we're going to track these guns when they go down to Mexico. But nothing got tracked, or at least we don't know of anything that got really tracked or any high-level arrest made because of the guns that they were just allowed to... What do you think is really going on? Because that sounds like a bullshit cover.

We're just tracking these guns. I mean, what do you do when you want to destabilize a region if you're another country? You give guns to the shithers. Why would they want to destabilize them in such an immoral way that they needed this to happen so badly? They were willing to give them weapons to kill each other. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's it's, it's a, it's, it's a, it's a, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a lot of cartel trying to fight control over the area, over some people that were coming like that Zetas does and other organizations. And I don't know, why, why would you send guns to this specific region? I'm not, I'm not saying that the US purposely armed a single cartel in Mexico, but that's what it kind of look like. Yeah. You know, that's what it's like. That's. Um, and this is the purpose of it. And this is what we saw. And this is. And this is what we saw. And this is what we saw. And this is what we saw,

Because, you know, a lot of the, a lot of the things that they were required, because it looked like a laundry list, some of the stuff that they were bringing down, 50-cal, why do you think 50-calibers started getting, like, were so hot and still that are so hot. It's because people started doing armor. So they need a way to getting through armor. So 50 cows, right? And Americans, especially some of my American military and police friends are always making fun of the fact that none of these big-ass rifles have any sights on them. they do have sites on them but they get stolen by the cops before they put them in front of the picture

for the news but I've heard I've heard it wasn't me that makes sense you get a nice expensive red dot on that fuck you these guys don't even have sights on their guns

they can shoot they can shoot far they can shoot well some of them not all of them yeah if they've got expensive guns of course they've got sites that's ridiculous yeah but everything gets stripped off you know, donations.

Of course. Makes sense. These started showing up in Mexico, a bunch of people started dying, and then two federal agents that were doing a protection detail died down there during a cartel shootout. I'm not too sure on the details of this, but they were involved in a shootout in Mexico. They were doing a protection detail down there. One of them was a Border Patrol agent assigned to this. Ryan Terry.

He set up, they actually set up a foundation in his memory. memory and I think I raised like a few grand for this foundation. And I did that only as a point to like be able to say, yeah, yeah, I raised this money for this foundation to honor this fallen police officer that was going, that was in Mexico that was killed by American guns that were given to the cartels to bring attention to the fact that, you know, we know who Ryan Terry is, but do we know who my friends are who were killed by these guns or a lot of the unknown people that were killed by some of these guns that were allowed to walk through that border knowingly by ATF officials, even though the people running these gun shops were like, hey, dude, are you sure?

Like, they want like four AKs. Like, are you sure? Yeah, yeah. Let them walk. We're under surveillance. We're tracking these. And they just go down. So if you had to imagine, no one's saying this is true, but if you had to imagine what kind of a deal would be made where you would guarantee the shipment of weapons from the United States into Mexico.

by the federal government for what purpose to destabilize destabilize support a specific faction right but that's the question why them and like was it money was it influence were they working on something

you know there's a lot of we're in the realm of theory right now of course but Ilmao Sambala learned his trade craft in Los Angeles 50 years ago and one of the people that was instrumental in showing him how to run drugs and move things through countries was a man who was a Castro era police officer who was involved in the

bay of pig incidents that man married his elmayo sister and that's who taught el maio sambada everything he knew about moving things around borders wow so i'm not going to say the cia but oh my god well you know i'm i've had uh freeway rickie ross on the podcast multiple times And for people who haven't seen those episodes or heard me talk about Ricky, Ricky is the real Rick Ross. Like Rick Ross, the rapper, that's not his name. He named himself Rick Ross because Freeway Ricky was a legend. He was a legend in Los Angeles.

He was the number one cocaine dealer in Los Angeles. And he was getting it all from the CIA. And he was helping funding the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. And he had no idea because he couldn't even read. And that same contra situation pops up again with the death of Kiki Kamarena, the DEA agent. One of the people, one of the, there was two major prisoner extraditions of cartel members from Mexico to the U.S. And the first one that came through, I think a year ago, was the apparent murder of Kiki, I was a cartel member.

And they've always pinned it on him. Like the cartels were, there was this giant grove marijuana out there and that Ki-Kamaranah saw it and reported it. And Caro Quintero, who owned this plantation, had him killed, right? And we actually went down to Halisco where he was tortured and killed and talked to the locals there. And they were like, oh, the Casa de la Sia. Like the CIA house.

They're like, what? That's what some of the people there say. And I've ever seen the video of Michael Rupert, who was a friend of mine who passed away years back, he was a former Los Angeles narcotics officer. And he was on C-SPAN at a hearing. And during the hearing, said, I have personally witnessed the CIA selling drugs in Los Angeles and everybody goes fucking crazy. It is the wildest thing to see because this is like, Jamie, was that the 90s? Yeah. Do you remember?

Were you around when Rupert was a guest? No. No. Rupert was pre-Jamey. Wow. Yeah. So Rupert was on a couple of times. And then he took his own life one time.

He was very depressed. I don't doubt that he took his life. He was living pre-destitute. I think he was in a trailer. I get it. The end wasn't good. But there was a movie. Here, let's listen.

Mike Rupert. 1996. Let's play some of this because it is crazy. It's crazy. This is all live on C-SPAN. Los Angeles Police Narcotics Detective and I work South Central Los Angeles and I will tell you Director Deutsch emphatically and can you speak further into the mics sir these mics don't seem to be I will tell you director Deutsch as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country for a long time. Yo! It was great. And he goes. into detail and look at these are all LA people and they're like fucking thank

you but it's this is like the CIA is up there too yeah yes yes this is like conspiracy theory this never happened but exactly there you go look at the head of the CIA look at him that guy's got a human skin suit on that's a human skin suit on that's a demon Listen to when Rupert talks Just wrote a note to that guy too Yeah Wait a minute here

Wait a minute If you don't like what's going on here Please leave now No no no no leave No no leave now Because there are others who do want to hear What's going on in this room Shout out to Juanita for getting control of the room

Because everybody went nuts when he said that So he elaborates I mean When you say you went nuts, they're looking at, he talks to the director. ...operations known as Amadeus, Pegasus, and Watchtower. I have Watchtower documents heavily redacted by the agency. I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted to recruit me in the late 70s to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country.

I have been trying to get this out for 18 years, and I have the evidence. My question for you is very specific, sir. If in the course of the IG's investigations, and Fred Hitz's work, you come across evidence of severely criminal activity and it's classified, will you use that classification to hide the criminal activity or will you tell the American people the truth? He's like, should I handle this? They're going to activate the bomb in his head right there. All right. Do you want to hear the response first from Congressman. Julian Dixon and then from the director He's like, I don't want to talk Wait, wait a minute

From your, from your I'm sorry, sir I will allow the director Look at the back His fingers touching me so nervous He's there to try and pull him out if something happens If you have information About CIA, illegal

Activity I don't know about those hands That guy's doing Bill Gates' hands You should immediately bring that information to wherever you want but let me suggest three places the Los Angeles Police Department I am sorry

others want to hear this answer I am sorry others want to hear the man with the leopard hat and the leopard scarf Amazing. Amazing segment of time. Or office of one of your Congress

persons from this I got shot at for it. Wait a minute. You hear him? I did that 18 years ago. I got shot out for it. Jamie, find the trailer for that movie they did with him.

So they were interviewing him. I forget what the entire premise of this thing was. They were interviewing him for something. And he was so intense. They decided to do an entire movie of just Michael Rupert sitting in a chair in like a warehouse smoking cigarettes and talking about the collapse

of the global economy. Collapse. Play the trailer for this because it's so nuts. See if you can find the trailer for collapsed. Yeah, I mean, the whole CIA thing is... This is Michael. We are all collective

responsible for what may be the greatest preventable holocaust in the history of planet Earth I have 30 years of experience as an investigative journalist I've broken major scandals going out to try and map how the world really worked as opposed to the way we were told it worked our map has proving deadly accurate my economic predictions all we had it so right in 2006 we said get out of debt right now check your mortgage carefully we issued a whole series of warnings. There will be nothing like we have ever seen before.

That's January 2005. Everything that we said was going to happen is taking place right now. Gold prices, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the stock market. It's not that Bernie Madoff was a pyramid scheme. The whole economy is a pyramid scheme. Of course I've been called a conspiracy theorist, but I don't deal in conspiracy theory. I deal in conspiracy fact. The mortal blow

to human industrialized civilization will happen when oil prices spike and nobody can afford to buy that oil and everything will just shut down unlike the Great Depression we do not have infinite resources nothing grows forever there is a cycle birth growth maturation decline and death cars don't run the mail stops getting delivered planes don't fly law enforcement stops working this is all part of the collapse If you're in a camp and a bear attacks, you don't have to be faster than the bear. You only have to be faster than the slowest camper. The challenge being faced by the human race now is either evolve or perish, grow up or die. You have to believe, not hope, not praying, that there's a way out of it, and you're going to find it. The whole documentary, just this dude sitting there freaking you out. It's like Mexico's UFOs are, it's always been like, Mexico's Bigfoot is CIA.

Like there have been, Manuel Bindi, I think, was a writer in the 60s, he was, 60s, he would talk about the CIA and he got shot. There, like recently, in the past 10 years, a bunch of CIA documents have come out of Mexican presidents being on the payroll by the CIA. from like all the cold war era presidents were like CIA agents on the payroll. So Mexico has this vision of the CIA and the U.S.'s responsibility for some of the things that are going on down there that's very different than the U.S.'s perception

of responsibilities. It's probably more accurate. I mean, it's direct. It was shocking to me when we were there at Kiki coming in at that house where he was kept and I think tortured and finally killed. that the people around there that have lived there when it happened, some of them would call that the CIA house.

So that was a weird thing. And maybe they've been kind of like polluted by all the stuff they've been looking at or seeing after that happened. Or maybe they're just being accurate. Or maybe they're just being accurate. Let's say this in the, again, realm of theory. You have the United States dealing with Mexico and a 9-11 happens. and then you're worried about things going through the border, like a nuke, you know, you're paranoid.

Do you entrust the Mexican government to keep that border safe and tell you, if anything, go through that border? Or you talk to the cartels that actually own that border? Who do you talk to? You have to talk to the cartels. So I think there's always been a backdoor channel communication there going on or direct communication going on of some sort. which only makes sense yeah and also makes I wonder how much of it influence it has

in our drug laws because sensible drug laws would treat all drugs the same way we treat alcohol yeah sensible because alcohol's a drug and we know that when we had a prohibition would last it for how many years like 13 years in this country

it did nothing but prop up organized crime yeah and last time I came here, I was on my way to becoming alcohol sober. So alcohol is a very dangerous drug. You can kill yourself with it very easily. You could buy a bottle that will kill you. Yep.

And no one's going to say. Any store. I had to lock myself in a fucking ranch. I did it old school. Just fucking long. How long did it take? My whole life it's going to take, I think. I'm always going to be, I like to think about it, you know, sometimes.

But I've been sober for about four years now. Congratulations. Thank you. That's awesome. It's hard to do. It is not easy. I don't have the addiction gene, the physical addiction gene. I don't know why.

But like even I chew on these nicotine pouches all the time. I went on vacation and I said, no nicotine. Let's see what happens. For five days, I was fine. Nothing. Coffee. I said, I'm going to quit coffee. I quit coffee for five days.

I'm like, no weirdness. Yeah, I think for me it was medication. When I got out of work I had loads of PTSD the first time I was on the podcast We talked to a little bit about it And then afterwards you like gave me some names Of some people that you talked to

And I did I went out and looked out for help Eventually I just got sober But it's insane to me how differently Alcohol gets treated versus all other substances What's one of the only ones that if you get off it too quick You'll die? Yes Which I did research

Did you get real close to that? I had to, my heart, I started feeling my heart do shit. Oh, did you think, well, I just have a little drinky poo and get back on track and do this slowly, a slow trip? When I left the studio the last time, it was, you're still in L.A. My marriage ended around that same time, you know, and I had a few things going on. PTSD and trying to figure things out and drink. drinking myself to sleep every third day because it's the only way I can go through a sleepless, through a dreamless night was unsustainable. So my life was falling apart and I had to like do something.

I had a friend who owns a big ranch and they had a cabin that I could stay in. He said, hey, you can stay here. How long did it take to? I got there and I didn't want to feel like a freeloader. So I got there and I gave them. They had a little small community school there for the kids So I brought a TV and like DVDs

And like gave them all this stuff Okay, okay, stay here He stood me in front of everybody And said, this guy's an alcoholic If I catch anybody giving him an alcohol Or if you see him give him an alcohol Or if you see you can give me an alcohol You're out

Embarrass me Like I felt like shit But it gave me what I needed Third night Shakes and sweats Yeah Just wild dreams I think I pissed myself, but it was a sweat.

Then I started getting my heart, chest veins and shit like that going on. And I think it took me about two weeks, I think, to really, like, be, you know, on the level. Don't do it that way. It's a stupid way of doing it. You'll almost die. Eventually I got. Some people do, right? Yeah.

I think that's how Amy Winehouse does. died. Yes. That's probably, yeah. Yeah. That's what, isn't that the case, Jamie? Don't they think that Amy Winehouse died from complications of alcoholism of trying to get so over? Yeah. It is, it is, you, you feel it. Whatever, people often say, like, I feel like I'm dying. Like, no, you, that feels like you're dying. Like you, like somebody's sitting on your chest, uh, and you can't get up. And also your brain is screaming for something that you can't get. Um, right. I alcohol poisoning after binge drinking following a period of abstinence oh even worse eventually eventually I started speaking about it the guy I was

embarrassed about it I started writing about it and publishing on my on my Instagram account just like my experience with it and I I got a lot of help from a lot of people did you ever do I began yeah yeah it did things. It opened up a few warm cans of worms of the past in me. But it, yeah, it helped. That's the one thing that I hear over and over again for people that do suffer from PTSD

and people that do suffer from addiction. Yeah. Ibegain's the one. It, it, it's like a weird conversation. It's like a weird, it's like, you've avoided these very specific things for decades and now there's no way of

avoiding them and they're there and it's like you know I don't know I don't think I don't want to it led me on a path and it specifically opened up a bunch of doors for me in the realm of

you know I'm the cartel guy and I used to do this and that's what I do when I train people on that but then I'm a guy going through alcohol sobriety in public. You know? I had Randy Blythe, the lead singer of Lamb of God, reach out of nowhere. This random guy that I used to listen to when I was working,

you know, my headphones. He's like, hey, Ed, you know, he's speaking about your surprise. If you need, do you have a sponsor? I was like, I never went to AA. I just fucking locked myself in a room. You're stupid for doing that. But he's like, I'll be your sponsor. Oh, wow.

So he started. How fucking cool is that? What a sponsor? He is, I don't know, he's, he's an amazing guy. Like, that's who I call it when I'm close. But, yes, it is insane to think about the fact that the bottle of a bottle of liquor you can buy the store, kill you. All you have to show is your ID. Well, it's the problem of addiction.

You know, this is this, this is the actual fuel that runs the cartel is there's a giant problem in the United States of people and this appetite for illegal narcotics. Yes. And this pretending that people aren't doing these drugs and like they're pretending that making them illegal is going to stop this. No, all you're doing is propping up the cartel. That's all you're doing is funding the cartel. and then also helping the alcohol lobbyists in this in this country yeah the you know the the the perfect storm was uh the outbreak of the prescription opioid epidemic in the in this country that was like this initiation of what later turned into like oh well this is off the table now because we passed all these laws and didn't put some people in jail that should have that should be in prison some families that i don't know how they're free yeah um But then what takes its place? Somewhere in Mexico, people were growing poppies, and they said, well, let's add a little bit of fentanyl into these very weak poppy yields of heroin and see what it does.

And it kicked. Oh, so that was the source of it, that the heroin was weak? These hillsides have been leached for years from growing wheat on them. Oh, so the topsoil was bad. They were doing monocrop agriculture. with drugs. Oh, my God. Industrial monocrop agriculture with drugs led to fentanyl being introduced into

them to make them more potent. Wow. And then also weed legalization in parts like California led to interesting phenomena. Some of these fields were no longer profitable, so they would switch to poppy. And one thing that people don't realize is that a lot of these things get tested out first in the markets in Mexico. because Mexico has giant drug markets that are fought over

and people will try this. You know, try this. Oh, boy, it's like trial samples that they hand out the supermarket? Oh, no. So at some point in the past, somebody down in Helisco probably tried the first load of Mexican

fentanyly loaded heroin. Somebody somewhere out there probably did the first hit and was like, holy shit, you got a winner here. Or died. immediately and they said, hey, that's a little too potent. Because the amount of fentanyl that you need to kill somebody so small. Yeah, but

it was a hit here, though. It was a giant hit here in the U.S. And then... Is it as big a problem in Mexico as it is in the United States? No. The reason is wild, though. It's not because Mexico cracks down a fentanyl, there's no fentanyl on the streets. It's because the cartel

down there will kill you if they catch you selling that shit locally. Wow. Because this poison is a Venta Export. Wow. If the cartels catch you selling anything that isn't from them or fentanyl in certain areas, they'll kill you. So that's the best, that's the Mexican DARE program. That is so crazy.

Like, they know it's bad. Yeah. Yeah, well, they know. You see some of these cartels publicly claim like, ah, we don't deal in this fentanyl thing. This is not us. Fentanyl as a whole, I think, in the U.S. is kind of down. And I know that not all of it or not most of it is now coming from Mexico. I mean, you'll get pill shipments of fentanyl pills coming from Mexico, a lot of those.

A lot of those. But you also get fentanyl from in the mail all over the U.S. There's a loophole that is finally being closed about exporting things into the United States. So if they're below $800 or something like that, they don't get the full scan. So I know for a fact there are cartels in or groups of people in the United States organizing, shipping things to the United States that have fentanyl in them. And they started loading and they're selling fentanyl loaded substances into, into the U.S. Without any sort of cartel or Mexican involvement. That is also happening in the U.S.

And the precursors for this stuff all come from China, correct? They all come from China, and this is my observation, I guess, when COVID hit, these precursors started getting really rare for some of these organizations, specifically the senior law cartel was actually getting their fentanyl in the U.S. from some of the last shipments that they were receiving in the ports in the U.S. because the U.S. kept the ports open for a bit longer. So you had cases of people, cartel members getting caught with fentanyl smuggling into Mexico because they didn't get their regular supply from China from the regular ports. And that's what they were utilizing

to infuse the drugs that they would send over to the U.S. But the one that didn't have any of those issues was the New Generation cartel because they own a lot of the ports on both sides of the country. And also they've always had I don't know, this, I don't want to say that the people's Republic of China purposely has been sending fentanyl or has been turning a blind eye to all this phenomenon as a way to fuck with the U.S. It's probably the case, though.

Yeah. It's probably the case. Well, it seems like that would be a good move if you want to destabilize a country. How would you get hundreds of thousands of people hooked on this terrible drug? Yeah. And, I mean, they're all over the illegal weed trade in the U.S. as well. right now. Hundreds of them I saw on the border crossing in single file.

I was watching some video that some guy made about Maine, about there's this town in Maine, but there's all these Chinese nationals living there, and they've taken over weed operations in Maine. It's wow. It's when we talked about Vietnam, I think Mexico is a weird Vietnam in a lot of ways, because you see foreign influences in Mexico in different ways the current administration

is very close with Venezuela and Cuba which are enemies of the United States they're pretty friendly with them so that's one influence in the country all of these precursors and supplies and all of these involved Chinese chemist industrialist individuals

a lot of the cartels were basically hiding their money through Chinese banking institutions that's the way you hide money from the U.S., you know, you put it, you take it to a Chinese money broker, he puts it in the Chinese banking institution, you go to Mexico, you have a shell company down there or a real company down there, and then you hire investments with that Chinese company, now you have legitimate money just transferring from one end to the other, and nobody's a wiser. So Mexico is a war, is a, is a war field or a battle, a battle is being played out in Mexico

that has a lot to do with the United States and affecting the interests of the United States. And China is clearly not the U.S.'s friend in this battle, probably. And things have changed, the dynamics have changed, but you can clearly see that at some point, they, people in China, and when it's, I've heard people say that the largest intelligence organization in the world is the Chinese, popular, the Chinese government, because everybody in China, is part of the intelligence apparatus, basically. So it's hard for me to believe that all these industrialists and all of these chemists come to Mexico and show these cartel members how to cook, manufacture, make, or actually fabricate, like they've been fabricating fentanyl in Mexico. There have been a few laboratories found in Mexico where they're actually making fentanyl in Mexico.

This is a very common now. But they learn their tradecraft and scalecraft from people from China. How can the Chinese government have these people moving in and out of the country and showing these things back and forth and not like, oh, we don't know anything about this? Right. They're probably directed to do it.

I don't know. Look, it makes sense. It makes sense. You know, there's so many countries that are involved in destabilizing America, just like we're involved in destabilizing other countries. There's a whack-a-mole game that's going on all over the world.

Trennerawa, which has talked about a lot here in the U.S., this Venezuelan gangs, they're operating in central Mexico openly now there's power vacuums all over the country where all these cartel guys are getting hit and people are

the age of the large organizations is probably coming to an end the Sinolaa is the Sinola cartel doesn't exist anymore there's smaller factions basically in control which is allowing things to come in

then that are the Venezuelan gangs that are operating in a way where the Mexican government hasn't dealt with that It's more like a localized gang shit, you know. Camorra, like Italian mafia type dealings that they have. So they're, which is like old school Mexican cartels used to do. So now they're having to de-evolve.

I mentioned this. I talked to some people who are actively working against that federally in Mexico. And then all of a sudden we hear these mentions of Maduro, the president of Venezuela being placed on that. 50 million, I think, of the wrong way for his head. And he's basically now the head of the giant cartel, which is an interesting narrative that the U.S. is putting out there now. Is that real? I don't know.

You see a lot of these Venezuela. And then I want people having clear knowledge and skills, you know, and training. And then they're operating in Mexico, clearly with some sort of command or directive structure that's in clear, like, no, there's no, like, who's the head of the Trennerwa cartel? It's like, nobody's going to tell him. They don't know, you know, you know, who's supplying them, who's sending them out, who's controlling them, who's organizing what. And it's, it's like a destabilizing thing, element, I think, you know. It's interesting that when we hear this new mention of authorized military actions in South America, they don't say Mexico specifically, they say just South America and a very big thing that comes up is Venezuela and Mexico. I think whatever the U.S. is attempting is beyond cartel and drugs.

This is about regional stability and security. Mexico's industrial plant is the most valuable resource on the planet right now, I think, moving into the future. It's poised to be the next China. And the U.S. sees this and what does the U.S. need more than anything right now, an industrial plant. Right. And where is it going to get one?

Mexico. And Maduro, is this the first time where there's been a gigantic bounty? on a president of a South American country in our lifetime? I think I don't remember anybody else with one of those. But it's barely making the news. But it's wild.

It's the president of a country and they're offering $50 million for his capture. Yeah, and he's on the TV screaming. He has these daily fucking... How does he keep from getting kidnapped? I have no idea. They've tried to kill him. They try to blow them up with the drone ones.

You imagine, like for 50, mil like some high level guys might snatch him up yeah i don't know i don't know how that works as far as a bounty on him but he's he's worried uh he's mobilized militia forces all over the country there was three years ago five years ago a bunch of americans were apparently hired by these private institutions private groups uh to go and try and liberate venezuela and they all got caught by fishermen on the coast i think got caught by fishermen uh there was some fishermen on the coast They were like, hey, what are these guys doing here fucking with the 50 Cal on top of a pickup truck? And I think they were, they were, they were grabbed and they were put on media and like, oh, these guys are all people.

I think one of them did security for a Trump event, so they put it all on Trump. Like Trump organized this. I don't know the whole of the details. This is like a little bit out of my wheelhouse. But what I've heard is that a lot of that money actually came from Cuban intelligence people who were just trying to orchestrate an embarrassing moment for the U.S. by paying all these mercenaries who are American to try and deliberate Venezuela and just catching them. Wow.

I think that's something like that's happened. There's a lot of gold coming out of that country. It has a lot of gold. There's a lot of shady things coming in and out of that country. Any country that is outside of the scope of friends of the United States is a country where shady shit can happen. Jamie, what is the official reason why they have a bounty, a Maduro? It's a cocaine smuggling operation that's allowing or really?

responsible for and Mexico the president says they don't have any evidence of that. Yeah, see and it's it's like you don't have any evidence of that but there's a bunch of in Venezuela organizations in Mexico that you're fighting against you know that are clearly involved in smuggling

yeah and they clearly have some sort of free movement between Venezuela and Mexico what's going on? What's going on? But But I think we're headed for something. Last time I was here, I said, in five years, we're going to see some sort of direct military intervention in Mexico, which has already happened.

I think with the rest of O'Maila Sambala, I kind of called the whole terrorist designation thing. I said I didn't think he was going to do it on his first term, but the second one. And he skipped a term, and then we had some time, and then he came back with a force. What do you think would happen if he didn't win? If who didn't win? If Trump didn't win, the border stayed wide open. I'm an immigrant, Joe. And I've seen that side of policy in the U.S.

And how it's affected the community and generally the people. But on the other end, I've also experienced Biden and the open board policy and the amounts of horrible shit that I saw on that border and people being a bunch of kids that went missing

or kids that were like what's going on with all these kids and why don't they have armands and all these migrant camps Yeah all these migrant camps being set up on the border which generally

good people don't want to believe that human trafficking is a real business and child trafficking King. It's a real business. It is a real business and is a big business and most of the anything related to sex traffic and specifically related to children, what part of the world do you think is the largest market for it? Is the United States?

They're always catching people too. They catch people and you're like, how many have they not caught? Yeah. You know, whenever they catch some new guy that's in trouble. The phenomenon that's going on that I, see a lot of people talk about is that the fact that, you know, a lot of Americans who are into this move to Mexico. And in Mexico, it's harder to find some of these people. So a lot of that, some, in some of these ex-spat community places, there are people hiding out who are

pedibos. And they don't no longer have to figure out stuff in the U.S. So they're moving down there and they're doing some of that down there. Um, trafficking of children, the sales of children, child theft, kidnappings are common in Mexico. They're very common in Mexico. And it's not something that you hear a lot about, but masses of people and children being moved up into the border have had some sort of organized effort with them to, like, help that out. You know, if you're a cartel member and you're on the border and all of a sudden you see 14 kids that are all asleep, you're like, what the, what the, well, I know all these kids like asleep. Oh, they're tired from the trip. I mean, I have a kid, you know.

She'll, she's like, I stop at a Starbucks, and she wakes up, like, where are you getting, right? Right. All these kids are like, asleep. They're drugged. So they carry them drugged up into the board, all the way up to the border. This is Biden era. So they would drug all these kids to not make them interact with anybody that might ask them any questions, basically. They put an armband on them, and they had some sort of organized effort on the U.S. side to receive them and put them wherever they need to be.

All that was shady. Oh, that was really shady. I'm not, I don't know. That's so horrific. I don't know what happens on this side. I don't know what happens on this side. I know that as an immigrant myself, I know that this administration, specifically in this part of its. in this history and what's happening right now is there's a lot of stress and fear, you know.

I see the, I see the effects of it in different industries from agricultural to culture to just this general anxiety that is, that is felt across the country by people of my color of skin that look Mexican or are Mexican, you know. But I also am not blind to or not stupid enough to see and compare it to the past. administration and some of the shit that went on there. That's the problem is that it's an overcorrection. The problem is when you have an open border and you do know that cartel members

are just freely going across and you do have human trafficking and you want to stop it, then you want to get everybody out that came in during the last four years. So now you have 20 million people you have to account for. And the problem is some of them are good people.

Some of them are not gang members. Most of them are just people that wanted a better life. most of them. But they have mandates now. And mandates get creepy because then people become numbers. And if you say, we got to get rid of X amount every day. And then you just show up at Home Depot and you get some hardworking guy with a family who just wants to like do some roofing jobs. Yeah. You know? Um, dude selling flowers. Yeah. Um, lady selling fruit, uh, in cups. And then there's this pushback on amnesty. People have this crazy pushback. Like if someone's been here

for 20 years. They've working on a farm and they're good people and they've established a family here. Let's figure out a pathway to amnesty. And then there's the hard right pushback to like, fuck you. You got here illegally. Get the fuck out. It's like those are jobs Americans could do. It's like, I mean, anyway. Well, first of all, my take on that is if you're using illegal labor at the very, at the bottom line, what you're doing is not paying people what they should be paid. Illegal immigration is illegal because people wanted to remain the because they need that cheap labor. That's another addiction. Someone explained that to me that he was having a conversation with this

extremely wealthy guy who was upset at the crackdown on the border because they need illegal workers. It's a part of their business model because you don't have to pay them any benefits. You don't have to pay them whatever the... They're off the books. Yeah, exactly. And they can't complain. If they do. Yeah, which is that's not good. You shouldn't have that. So they should find out, first of all, forget about whether or not someone's illegal or not.

Like, what are you paying them? You should have like a detailed record of how much everybody who works for you gets paid. And if there's a bunch of people that are working for you that aren't on record, what's going on? Yeah. Why you have this enormous corporation that relies on illegal labor? There are legal means of coming up to the U.S. and migrating or as a worker, but it's hard. That's the problem.

If you're poor, if you're poor, it's almost impossible. I have good friends that have immigrated to the United States, and they have to prove that their job is something that can't be done by an American or that they're exceptional at their job. When I went through my immigration process, I had my wife, who I've known since I was 16 next to me and my daughter. And they didn't believe that our marriage was real. jeez so i did it legally and i had all of the things that i needed to have to have that

immigration go through and it was the most difficult process that i've ever gone through and i can't imagine other people that have um i don't know how about they don't speak english right how about they have no money and but their quotas for other countries like i remember when i got mine there was like a nigerian dude that couldn't speak english and he got it and I got like you we need more information wow and that's another aspect of it again somebody brown in this country that is an immigrant meanwhile it's the foundation of most cities I mean crazy I'll just ever see that documentary a day without Mexicans yeah the fucking whole country shuts down especially L.A I mean the California fires and all the houses that were

gotten like people in construction you go to some of these work sites All right. All right. Yeah. You could, you, like, oh, what on? Hey, how's that? Yeah, exactly. And it's, it's been wild seeing that and the effects it has had on just general, on the, on the Mexican side is fear and anger and, like, more anti-American feelings, you know.

And also this new arrival of these Americans, because. Because think about this. And I have a friend that I sometimes help out in places like Tijuana, where we, recently deportees show up in Tijuana, and there's a lot of them right now. Imagine you live in the U.S. from when you're two years old, all the way you're 30s, and then they tell you. Right. And then now you're in a shanty town in Tijuana. Crazy. That doesn't make any sense.

That's immoral. Speaking the clearest English. Like, somehow they pay taxes for all this period. So, like, look, I paid my taxes. And, like, some of them have careers. Some of them have families. Yeah, that is the kind of shit that drives me nuts. That's insane.

Like, they should be grandfathered in. You should figure out a way. Like, if someone came over here when they're two, stop. Yeah. Stop. The amount of people getting kind of separated and also the, I mean, they're not, we have we have a we have a situation right now where there's American homeless people in Tijuana asking for money whoa right that's one thing and we also have people that you think are

American but they're actually Mexicans who are recently deported who are living in very dire conditions and hey you want a job I can't speak Spanish like dude oh my God so so it's like this is a phenomenon that's happening across the border and on this I didn't even think about people that can't speak Spanish. Some of them can't speak Spanish. Oh, my God. I met a dude that, again, I think he was, since he was two, he was brought across. And he found out that he found out that he didn't have any, he found out that he had any paperwork, I think, at 18.

When he started to do some sort of process. And they were like, wait, where's your birth certificate? Oh, my God. And he got cut up, I think, somewhere in L.A. and you know he sent down this this this perception that it's all criminals is no no well they're saying it's all criminals because if you come here illegally it's a crime okay so it was a two-year-old criminal two-year-old hardened criminal his diaper yeah come on that's fucking insane I think I think you're spot on when you say this is an over-correction yes I think that is a very true state

It's also treating people like numbers. Yes. And not having the resources to look at each individual case, not having enough manpower and people, and also, everybody loses their compassion. You just deal with it over and over and over again. You're like, enough, what's your story? That's not really your kid. That's not really your wife.

Yeah. You know? People, you know, they get lied to enough that they lose their humanity. Yeah, I understand that aspect of it. It's horrible. But, you know, this. This is, this is, uh, we're going to live with the consequences of this. And our kids are going to live with the consequences of this probably in the future.

And when people look back at this. Yeah, when people look back at this, you know, the United States leaving Afghanistan as it did, guaranteed that it's going to be very hard for America to find friends internationally now, realistically. Uh, however it deals with Mexico in the next few years is going, it's going to define this nation. it's this is whatever's happening right now whatever deals are being done um whatever this administration is pointing at is going to define us for i mean my kids are going to have to live with the results of this yeah what were the there was mass deportations going on during the obama administration too yeah this is what a lot of people aren't aware of these to call them the deporter in chief and and this is one thing that just makes me nuts because whenever i hear people

people up here they want to vilify just one side I guess yeah you can't do that but it's a trap yeah that's a trap Obama when Obama was he deported a lot of people I think it was somewhere around three million people it was like this at the word how many people did the Obama administration deport over the entire eight years I think it was like three million people yeah so and and I and why why was he deporting so many people pressure they probably had some sort of political pressure i'm not sure but i the the thing i point at is that within my same community they try and point at people in politics as like no but he's part of the democratic party he's going to help us you know whatever government governor

it is in whatever state yeah but no he was a part of the same party that supported obama and Obama was doing all this. 3,307,000. So what is that total on the left, Jamie? Total apprehensions, and then the metal number you just read is the border, U.S.-Mexico border apprehensions. So those are just apprehensions, or what about deportations? And then removal.

Total deportations is 5 million. 5 million. That's not just Mexico. It's kind of the point it's making. Right. 5 million. Bush administration. million oh clinton administration 12.3 wow how many is uh trump deported let's find

that out yeah and the the perception of the villainy like in the community it's all it's it's about pointing to those are the enemy these are our friends those are the what they're doing exactly right here you know people get so caught up in you know it's The MAGA versus the Democrats, like, you're being played. Yeah. You're getting fucked no matter who's in office. The whole thing is a scam. And it's these giant corporations are laughing in your face.

The whole thing has nothing to do with you. You're just a little pawn. And they use TikTok too. Yeah, they use, there's so much propaganda being going on online. In my mind, I always think about this first. Like, I'm an immigrant, I'm new here, I'm trying to figure things out. I've seen more of the United States than most Americans. I think I'm missing Hawaii, Iowa, and Alaska.

But I've been every other place. I was in a room in Tennessee watching a bunch of dudes dance with poisonous snakes at one point. Oh, boy. You went to a snake handler place? Beautiful experience. Americans go down in Mexico and watch bowl fights. And when I was there, I was like, I'm doing it. Exactly the same shit you guys are doing.

Shit up. Yeah. I grew up around snakes. I used to hunt them and sell the skin to the bootmakers and stuff like that. So how did you get in contact with snake handlers? I did a, I do a lot of training across the country for police, government institutions, privately. And we got a, I did a medical class out in Tennessee. And somebody there is like, hey, Ed, you're going, like, we want to show you around.

show you around you want to go see a moonshine distillery he's like no like I said hey are there any of these types of churches around here where they you know it's like yeah why would you want to go there because it's exotic to me yeah I'd want to go there too I want to see yeah I can't tell you too much about them we told me to keep it low key but when I went there they asked me are you Christian it's like I'm Catholic so you're not Christian Catholic it's Christian no according to them it's a satanic institution Oh, but I said, okay, are you ready to accept their true words? Yeah. I want to see. Right. Baskets start kind of getting pulled out. And, you know, again, I grew up around snake, so I know what a basket with a snake might kind of, there's something in there. I thought they were defanged in my mind.

Those things are definitely real, poisonous. I don't know if they give them something so they're like chill. No, they die all the time, those guys. Yeah. One got whacked recently. Yeah, but they were still like handling them. They're just fucking just proving their faith with these snakes. Well, if you're handling snakes all the time, they get accustomed to you handling them.

Yeah. As long as you're feeding them. I was like, oh, that's cool, but I don't have enough faith, I think. I think as long as you keep them fed and they don't feel like they're in danger. Yeah. I don't think they're going to fuck you up. It's like when you encounter them in the wild, it's like, They're just protecting themselves.

They don't want to get you. Yeah. But there were some pictures around of some of the people that didn't have enough faith, I guess. Oh. You got whacked? Yeah. Did they die or they just like... I think they have pictures.

There are people that passed. Because some people don't die. You just get horrible necrosis around the wound. Yeah. Yeah. Where you need massive skin grafts and you lose like half your fucking muscle tissue and your leg. Yeah. See if you can find that article about a guy recently, a snake handler who got killed.

I'll just found the Trump thing before I move on. Okay. He did his first term, he did half during, during his first four years, he did 1.5 million deportations. That's about half of Obama's first term, which was 2.9. Wow. And about the same as Biden's term, which is 1.49 also. And what is he at now? I mean, they're only six months into the year.

How crazy is that Biden deported 1.49 million? while letting in 20. Like, what do you think they were doing? Was that a part of destabilization? I know there was also efforts to move people to specific states so that you can get a larger number for the census so you get more congressional seats. This is a dark thing that people don't want to admit

because they died in the world Democrat, but listen, it is. Remember who'd have moved for? And they just get dropped out. I had a conversation with my parents about it. They're like, no, I'm like, yes, it's about congressional seats. It's like the census counts illegals, and not only that, they're trying to make it so that those people can vote. And if you can make it so that those people could vote, then all of a sudden you ship these people to a place. You give them EBD cards, you get them on food stamps, you give them Medicaid money.

They have money. And now, who are you going to vote for? You're going to vote for the people who got your money. You're going to people who gave you the food stamps. Who are you going to vote for? You're going to have over the people that shipped you to Springfield, Ohio. This is a good spot. And why do you think that is?

Like, yes, boats, congressional seats is one. Swing states. Swing states. Net population growth? I think there's a little of that, too. There's population to collapse. There's a population that, I mean, nobody's, there's no immigrant crisis in China right now. Right.

And I think they're on their way to probably collapsing if they go through this. downturn in their population. I think the U.S. is, at some points of its history, I think, has been kind of close to that, I guess. Japan is in the middle of it. South Korea is experiencing it. And I ask, because I'm trying to find logic between deporting the Biden administration doing that and then opening the door in that way. For me, it's always been interesting how a lot of these migrant caribans have a story or a narrative in their head all the way from where they're coming from up into the year. So like Sean Ryan was here a while ago, and I think he mentioned that we actually went, I took him down to TJ to one of these migrant caravans that was right on the border.

And I told, hey, Sean, you want to talk to some of these people? Sure. And he got a kick out of the fact that in the middle of this camp, there was a giant Biden flag flying. But that wasn't the, that wasn't the funniest thing. I'll see if I could send you the picture. all of the all of the guys that we were interviewing this is still covid mask era some of them had make america great again masks on i have no idea who gave them those but somebody with a sense of humor probably did um i have a picture of me and john ryan with some with some of the people that we interviewed and they have the make america great again masks on um but they they were told by the organizers that they had a clear they had a clear uh path to the the U.S. And then all they needed to do was make a lot of noise on the border, you know, make

a lot of newsworthy events on the border, talk to all the press they could, and somebody there was keeping tabs, and then they could go. Wow. That was their, the mindset that a lot of them had, which is a weird one, you know. And then some of them would talk to us about the fact that they would get aid from the, like from Americans would come down and give them their camps, their tents. said and there was a lot of dollars being handed out to pay for things so it was all it was shady right now like I actually talked to three three I think they were Honduran they just got they just got to the border now their their their idea is to go to Europe they have this weird sense that somebody told them somewhere down there that

is taking immigrants so they're they're trying to make their way to Mexico so from Mexico they want to go to Europe they're not looking to the US anymore which is a weird change in their narrative well you see the mass immigration in Europe is bananas yeah yeah it's really crazy yeah and again I but what is it about like why why would someone organize this why would someone fund this I don't know destabilization political means

maybe the U.S. wants to avoid population decline so this is one way that can backdoor it there's probably many factors right the political the destabilization is one but just politically

to get more congressional seats because of the way they use the census which I think Trump is trying to change is he changing that they said they weren't going to count illegals in the census anymore I haven't heard of that Is that, I mean, what kind of laws are involved?

Could you do that with an executive order? Like, I don't know how you would do that. I don't know. But so you have that, and then you have the true need for labor that people don't. Yeah. Which is, I mean, again, I've been all over the country. And every time I go into a hotel in Oklahoma, Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires. I was to the Buenos days.

Yeah. And I hope 80% of the time. I'm like, Buenos Aires. Like, what part of Mexico are you from? We had this cool conversation. Kitchens, like I've... Throughout New York City. Anthony Bourdain told me about that.

He said all his best cooks were Mexico. From Puebla. Wow. I was in Vegas and this sushi restaurant, high-level sushi restaurant. Trump calls for new U.S. census that excludes undocumented immigrants. Census has historically counted all residents, regardless of citizen's status as required by the 14th Amendment. So you can't really do that. Yeah, Congress has the power for the census, not the president.

So he's changing something. So Congress would have to agree with him on something like that, which I think politically there might be motivation to do that because you could game the system by an administration allowing not just mass immigration, but then the moving of all these immigrants to all these areas where you wanted to take over. Yeah. Which is crazy. Like using these people as political ploys and then they get a fresh start in America.

So it's kind of like a win-win. You know, they're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. Yeah. You, you, like, when, whenever I, whenever I, whenever I travel, I always look at people in the service industry. Like, I try to see where they're from. And it's always, it's always Mexican, you know, a lot of them are Mexican. In different parts of the country, it's different, but mostly Mexicans, Minnesota, there's a lot of,

not Mexicans there Ethiopian. Yeah, a lot of Somalians. Somalians. I think there was one that was running for a mayor there who was recently. Yeah, a young fella. Yeah, yeah. Pretty radical. He looked he looked exactly like somebody that appeared in a movie

where he was a captain for a moment. Yeah, exactly. It was all going to say. It was pretty fine. But independently of that, the amount of cultures I'm experiencing across the country, it's like, wow, this is like the UN of countries, you know, like everywhere I go, I meet people from all over the world. Well, that's the part of the beauty of America, really. The beauty of America is that it's a melting pot. That's supposed to be what's cool about it.

But when it's sort of weaponized in this way, when people are using it for their political gain and bringing people in for political gain and then making a person like you go through crazy hoops and ladders and all this shit to try to, get in here legally, you're like, oh, you're discouraging legal immigration in favor of illegal immigration, which is really easy. Yeah, and, and I understand the part of the, the part of the American populace that are it's like, we want to keep America on America. Guess what? I want to keep America of America.

That's why I came up here. Yeah. Going to Kentucky and experiencing that America. Yeah. Cool. Listen, there's no more American people than Cuban Americans. Those motherfuckers are hardcore. Hardcore America.

You know why? Because they know what the fuck communism looks like. This isn't just like some theoretical shit they teach you in college. Like their grandparents and their great grandparent grew up oppressed. Like they had to deal with that stuff. They escaped. And they came over to America and they have no tolerance for any bullshit. Well, in Mexico right now, there are things you can't say.

You know, there's laws that prohibit you from being violent verbally. against a political figure if she's a female, and you'll have to go on TV and, like, read out, like, a whole thing, apologizing for your insults. Public humiliation, basically, is being legalized in Mexico, and Mexico was going towards that side of things. But I'm up here, and I'm seeing some of the things up here as well, you know? So, like, I don't know, I have this vision of the U.S. where it's like, cool,

this is a place where I'm safe to pursue whatever happiness I think exist. I didn't find that happiness in my country where I'm from, where I came from, because this or this or this or that, why do I want to bring some of that here, I guess, would be one of the ways that I think about it. I don't want, hey, this Texas is kind of boring. Let's bring in fucking militarized cartel members to roll around the city and pick up kids and shit like that and train them.

the camps. Well, that's the big fear about Texas having Californians come here. Don't California are Texas. Yeah. You know, because they're like, man, California is just bullshit. We had to get out of here. This place, the laws are dumb. What made this place this place? Those fucking laws, dumbass. Yeah. Like constitutional carry. Cool. Cool. That's a cool thing. Keeps everybody super polite. Yeah. Everybody's super polite. And also like, hey, you know, call the cops after, you know, whatever mentality that is. In Mexico, Airsoft guns are like on weird list that you can't buy a site for a gun. If you want to buy a gun, you have to fly to Mexico City, which basically makes it prohibited to anybody that doesn't have any real means or money to get guns or training.

So it's basically you're not, you don't get the privilege to defend yourself in a country where you can't trust the cops. 90% of all murders are never solved. and look at all these fucking roving gangs rolling around with fucking capabilities of taking down helicopters they're cool but you can't have a 22 caliber pistol that's the mindset when I came up here I'm like oh cool this is like this is a place where some of that is not the case

but then a bunch of gun laws passed in California while I was going through my process and people started showing up to the gun range that I would go to train with like weird California compliant guns that you have to, like, weld the magazine to a certain place and stuff like that. And I was like, oh, man, it's changing up here, too. Just California. Yeah.

Just California. California is rough. Some of the things that they did, like, they made pistol companies make magazines with lower capacity, because if you can't kill people with a 10-round magazine. Like, what? How many lives does that save? Zero. Some of those laws are retarded.

But that's it. It's just the illusion that they're doing something to combat drug violence. or gang violence or gun violence or it's all illusions yeah it's all like optics but it is it is I mean it's it's when I when I when I get asked about my American experience you know I've been profiled uh I've been I've racist shit has been said to me you know where are you living these days uh Texas Houston beautiful Houston it's the right amount of ghetto I love Houston I love it's a little bit it's a little bit of Mexican there yeah Houston is a big-ass melting pot.

It's one of the best cities. Yeah. It really is. When I got there, and again, I lived in Kentucky for a bit in California and then there, I've experienced great profiling and racism in California, which is pretty funny to say, but that's where I experienced the most of it. I've experienced people opening their houses to me and, like, just being the best people on the planet, I experienced that in Texas.

in Kentucky with some people who were just, like, cool as fuck. I've experienced the best and the worst that the country has to offer, I think. And I can see in it, like, I get it. I get what America is. Like, I, dude, I finished high school, and then I went to work for a paramilitary institution somewhere in Mexico. And then I came up here, and I have seven employees now, a company. I've spoken to members of Congress. I've trained federal forces and people that I've read about in books on how.

how to do things that I learned in this horrible country warfare that I had to go through. There's no other place on the planet where it provided me these opportunities for myself and for my daughter. There's no other place in the world. So like I definitely have a fucking skin in the game when it comes to this country. It is disheartening that with the way things are now, like we're it, like brown Mexican immigrants of any kind, legal or illegal. are it right we are yeah in the sites of ice in the sites of ice in the sites of any sort of authority figure that might want to like see like wait wait what are you doing who are you so that's it's it's an anxiety and again it's I've talking to people from my community across the country

it's it's it's a generalized anxiety of not feeling at home at home which is dark dark dark it's It's dark. Yeah. Yeah, that's the problem with these fucking braids. It also makes the rest of us feel awful. Like, people that aren't scared of it, you feel awful about, like, what America stands for. Like, the idea that we would find it right

to send some kid who was born here, or born in Mexico, but came over here when he was two, can't speak Spanish at all. Some kid in L.A. That just doesn't have paperwork, and all of a sudden he's in Mexico. Yeah. Like, that is fucking dark.

That's crazy. And that makes everybody else feel like, oh, this isn't a good country, then. That's not a good thing to do. That's a bad thing. That's an immoral thing to do. That's a thing that you do when you don't care. And this is supposed to be the shining light of the world. Yeah.

And I talk to everybody. Like, I'm an open conversation, an open book with anybody. I don't see anybody as an enemy. I don't see anybody as an opponent. Dude, I've been through shit. I've been through hell and back. Like I've, um, so I've encountered situations where I've had to talk to immigration officials and, you know, and I'm like, hey, dude, what's it like?

Like, what's, what, like, being the villain right now. Like, the amount of, a lot of these guys are getting doxed. Mm-hmm. They're utilizing AI technology to take a picture of them and removing the mask and it gives you a guesstimation and what their faces are like. There's, there's people documenting their tattoos and then doxing them online. And I'm like, what? They are like, why do you ask that, Ed?

Because we were vilified, too. And that's how they, you know, that's how they got to us. You know, they started making us into the enemy. There is a lot of interest out there I can see at high levels to separate us and keep us fighting. Like at a cultural level, I think. More destabilization. So you think this is part of the plan? I don't know if there's a plan or not.

But hopefully. It kind of makes sense. Like the part of the whole agenda Is to create even more conflict Hopefully somebody has a plan Like I Hopefully somebody knows what they're doing somewhere But maybe not right

If they don't man That's a dark thing to think about That's what makes me wonder I wonder I wonder if it really is a big plan Or if it really is just fucking human chaos If I found myself in a room with Illuminati people And there's like a then I'm like

Oh these guys are smart Like, you know, whatever, whatever this is, if we're going to be cattle, at least somebody that knows their shit is going to be in charge. But I don't, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I see this, I see, I see the U.S. in, like, people internationally see the U.S. declining, you know. I got to experience the U.S. in the 80s, crossing the border and going to San Diego and going to SeaWorld with my parents and shopping and seeing the portions of everything bigger in the supermarkets. And then as an immigrant in the U.S. now, like, everything's smaller. And infrastructure is very dilapid in certain parts of the country.

And it's not the U.S. of the 80s. It's not the U.S. of the 90s. It's different. So, yeah, I can see why people are screaming at the fact that, yeah, there's something has to be done. We're losing it as a country. But I think you're hitting on the nail on the head. We went through a Biden administration that was all about, who was in charge

is the question I have like I don't was that dude in charge no somebody was yeah not only that I think there was more

than one of that dude you know there's like fake Bidens yeah and his son going online and doing an interview and just giving us giving us like a

intimate view of his family conversations and son sounds fun he's a party dude I have party with that guy well not not anymore back then Maybe I don't think he even parties anymore, but it's wild to think those and then people question why things are the way they are and why people are struggling in different parts of this guy, parts of society in this country.

I came here at work and to make a better life for myself and for my kid and I somehow managed to be in a place where I have like employees and I have a company and I'm working. I'm doing work and I can't, it's the American dream. It is the American dream, and it still exists. And I'm proof of it still being real. But it is under attack from all sides. From all sides. Yeah. From all sides. I'll say that three times.

Yeah. People need to realize that it's not just. Right. There's definitely an interest to keep us all fighting. Yeah. And social media is a big part of that. Yeah. Yeah. That's literally how most people are getting their information and getting their narratives.

And the same fight that is played on social media statewide, stateside, is kind of like the same fight that is being sold to us as far as Mexico versus the United States. We're not enemies. We shouldn't be enemies. We should be the best of friends. There are thousands of Americans living in Mexico now. There's protests going on for gentrification in Mexico City from people being, locals being pushed off. Yeah.

Go home, wringos, written on the walls. Meanwhile, there's ice rates in L.A. And people being roared up and being deported. And that's happening all the while where people are, like, Mexicans are sick of all these Americans living and all these cool parts of Mexico and gentrifying them, which is wild. I mean, are we into mass American deportations next from Mexico?

Is that going to happen? In the past, you can just cross the border as an American, and they wouldn't ask you for shit. Now they ask you for ID. Oh, really? Yes. A lot of Americans that live in places like Tijuana and then work in San Diego have encountered this,

oh, things are changing. Like, where's your ID? They look Mexican. Yeah, well, where's your federal voter ID? It's like, you're an American, right? And you just work in San Diego. Yeah. They go back and they add this in the back.

You have to pay for like a visa extension thing so you can cross the border regularly or you can be in Mexico for long periods. But things are changing. Again, these lines are being drawn on the ground. I don't think are good for anybody. Free commerce at that border, San Diego and Tijuana are one and the same. From blood, family, commerce, they're one in the same. why draw a line there? Yeah, when I used to work in San Diego

and I used to stand up down there and, you know, if I hung out after the shows, I'd meet a bunch of people that came to the show from Mexico. Yeah, yeah. And I'd say, wow, you just came over here for the show? Yeah, drive across. Yeah.

Drive across. And there's, again, as both of our, Mexico was poised to be a powerhouse economically if we don't fuck it off with socialism. Oh, and why is that being pushed, too? More destabilization. But it is poised to be a powerhouse, you know.

We have the youth. We have everything we need to just fucking explode. Resources, everything. But that's the same reason why we're being targeted so much for destabilization there. Wow. There's no path forward, I think, to have a isoler. The United States with giant walls and guards on the walls and nobody crossing that wall and Mexico next to it. I don't think that. I don't want to. I don't think that's, I don't, I wouldn't want to go there.

No, there's always been this free flow back and forth. They just got to make it so the cartel members can't just come across or or terrorists from other countries don't have an easy pathway. The flow of armaments going down to Mexico. Oh, yeah. Is one issue. The flow of armaments going down to Mexico. Oh, yeah. is one issue. The flow of drugs coming up from Mexico is another issue. The organized crime elements in Mexico doing horrific things to the local populace and to each other when they fight each other is an issue. But also the United States' historical foreign policy to Mexico and its responsibility for a lot of these things happening in Mexico is also key.

What should the United States do about its responsibility in the past? and some of its foreign policies in Mexico that have led Mexico to be where it is right now as far as violence? I don't know. I don't think a full-on military attack like Afghanistan or Iraq would be the answer because we see where that goes.

It's not as easy as sending just drones down there and exploding a few dudes because we've also seen what that happens when you cut the head of one snake. You know, you just abducted the head of the Sunilua cartel and brought him to Texas and all that did. It didn't quell cartel violence in Mexico.

It didn't end the Sen. It just made a giant war in the state of Sena law, and it divided up one cartel into two and probably made one of the biggest threats the United States national security as far as cartels go bigger and more influential. That's what that did. Wow.

And again, the path forward, I don't know. I this that's like both countries are linked through blood genetics, um culture you know there's a dude online saying that Mexican food is better in the U.S. than Mexico is nuts nonsense he's just idiot that's hot nonsense stupid dude and you you'll know who I'm talking about but uh you both countries are like again I've been across this country I traveled across it and it is a great country I love it I love it I love it I love it I love Mexico as well it's it's my home country and I travel when I can there as well I don't see a future without both of our

countries just like figuring things out together there's no I don't I don't see a future like that well said well said we are going to need each other more than we think when in the coming years and open warfare between both countries is not fucking insane it's not going to be it's not going to lead to anything you the United States doesn't have the manpower to stop the wave of migration that will come out of that country if you start fucking lobbing targeted strikes in certain parts of that country there's no way um so if you want to talk about an anti like my migration is your issue that you're going the wrong way um and also what at what point to some of these criminal organizations as i said become freedom fighters right and once they become

freedom fighters at what point do they start targeting americans living down there right And it's just not good. I wonder if they've thought it out. Like the U.S. government's thought it out the way you're laying it out. I've spoken to members of Congress and I've spoken to members, I've been in Washington a few times and I've spoken to people that are in charge of things. And they have notions, some of them, you know, but some of them are clearly, you know, they took that you don't get that world and if they're not like fully invested in finding out and really diving deep and getting an understanding of it how how could they know what you know

there's well they're doing the right thing by like I've been in rooms with people who were part of this conflict and and they're they're asking the right people um but they're some of them are verifying like oh we were just in Mexico and we spoke to the local officials there and they told us that they're doing this now and look at all those drugs that they just got they're doing their job now and I'm like dude I used to work for them and I can tell you that those boxes beneath those pills are probably empty and they're just there to like produce a visual weight yeah of it and also like that unit that that did that that seizure yeah they're on a payroll for this organization and and also the governor of this place where this seizure happened yeah you

just took her visa away because the husband is involved in fuel smuggling so like is this a win wow uh but yes you're freaking me out i'm sorry but yeah there are people that are trying to figure it out in the government there are people they're asking the right questions i just i don't know what they're doing i don't know what's going to happen with uh with the information but A few things are clear. Everything is on the table as far as military options in Mexico and beyond in South America right now. There is an interest by the United States in some of that going on. That's clear.

And what that's going to look like is it already happening with the abduction and subsequent arrest of El Maya Sambana on a plane in some pretty kind of weird circumstances. Do the United States, is the United States already doing political counter operations against the regime that is ruling over Mexico in some way, shape, or form? I don't know. There's a bunch of a political exposés going on over Mexico right now with a bunch of, like, documents and members of their very austere political party having lavish lifestyles outside of the country and they get photographed and then that goes on the news. And then the president of Mexico says the CIA probably is taking all those pictures as a counter operation to what they're doing. Oh, boy. So I think, I think whatever's happening is, it's, it's already in motion.

I get my point is the cost of this is if it's, if it isn't done in a, in a, if it isn't done correctly, if it isn't done in a way where it's not taking into consideration the outcome or the fallout of something like. abducting another giant head of a cartel down there or taking him out and I think the biggest target out there is the head of the new generation cartel. I think that's if I could be a psychic right now and I say the U.S. is going to plan some sort of direct action operation. I think that's going to be aimed at them. But you know if the Americans have a vision that they're going to go somewhere and everybody's going to be wearing. cartel member vest on. I don't think they're ready to go to somewhere

and they have a bunch of police officers with full uniforms or actually police officers there or members of the military that engage in a firefight with them and call backup from the military and then now you're involved in a national in a fight with the army down there. Because they're all involved with the cartel.

Some of them are. Again, we hear these stories of these people who's draining them who's supplying them who's showing them how to use those rocket launchers that they're getting from the Ukraine

you hear these stories and you're like just like that dude standing up there the CIA involved in drug that you was like Ed you're just talking

out of your ass this conspiracy theory shit five years ago I said terrorist designation and direct action in Mexico against a high level

cartel head and here we are yeah and maybe I may be on that side of conspiracies, but I've been pretty spot on. You've been pretty spot on. Ed, I appreciate you very much. I'm glad we did this.

I've been following your work over the last five years, and you're always on it. So it's great to hear you lay all this stuff out. Tell everybody how they could find you online. Last time I was here, they deleted my Instagram account of over 500,000 followers. After the podcast? I posted something about Chinese people being welded into their homes during COVID. and the Instagram didn't like that and they they they took down my account wow so what is it now it is manifesto radio podcast at it's at manifesto radio podcast on Instagram and on YouTube if you want

to check me out I have a small podcast I talk to just people related to this environment and I post pictures daily and a bunch of weird memes and stuff like that It's basically an open blog of my travels. I'm constantly traveling, talking to people that are involved in this, and just putting the word out there. I'm not in politics. I am not a reporter. I'm not a cartel reporter. I am a dude that went through some shit.

I'm still going through some shit. I'm trying to figure things out as a new American, and I want the best for both countries. That's why I am. Beautiful. Thank you, Eddie. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you. All right.

Bye, everybody. You know what I'm going to be.