The Joe Rogan Experience - #2375 - Tim Dillon

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night All day We're good, yeah But yeah, this is a turkey market Send us these and some zombie ones Sick
Starting point is 00:00:19 Not the best to drink out of them You can't drink out of it Because it's like curved at the top So he spill all over the stuff But who cares You got to put something in it And then just have it Yeah, like pens or something
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yeah, drugs Yeah, it would be good for drugs Look at that face It'd be great If you had some drugs laying around That's where you'd put them That's the spot So we were talking about the video
Starting point is 00:00:43 That Trump posted This video of them drone bombing Some narco guys in the middle of the ocean In Venezuelan drug traffickers Right? Yeah I think that's what it was Yeah
Starting point is 00:00:55 Venezuelan Trend de Agua Trend de Agua. It's a real thing. Yeah. They're a real thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yeah. You know? He's accusing the president of Venezuela of being involved. Right? That could lead to an interesting place, you know? I mean, it could lead to a, I imagine we're doing that because we're trying to suggest that it would be better if he wasn't the president. Probably something along those lines. I mean, isn't there like a bounty on him?
Starting point is 00:01:25 I believe there is. I think it's like open and public. There's like a $50 million bounty on them. Yeah, I think they want to get rid of him. Is that what the number is? Yeah, $50 million. There it is. They've been...
Starting point is 00:01:41 They've placed a $50 million bounty for information leading to the arrest of Venezuela and President Nicholas Maduro. They've been trying to knock him off for a while. Yeah, he's accusing him of heading a drug trafficking network. I don't know if that's the case. But speaking to Ed Calderon that I had on the other day, he was an expert on Mexico. Yeah. And you remember when there was like all the assassinations in the last election?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah. It was like 37 different assassinations in Mexico. In Mexico. Yeah. He said it's because they're all cartel. Sure. It's not like they're not just assassinating regular people. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:14 The cartels putting these people in to be like the mayor or this or that. And then these other people who have other cartel people are killing them. So it's warring. Cartels. Exactly. It's all warring cartels. So here it is. This is the president is posting assassinations on social media.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Is this? Okay. Yeah, we're going to get a chance to see it. And do you. Instant. Pretty accurate. Pretty fucking accurate. Very impressive.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Pretty impressive. A lot of wasted drugs. Yeah. Well, probably a lot of fans. drugs. Probably bad drugs. Well, this is a big problem is that the drugs now are worse than they've ever been. Oh, yeah. I mean, all drugs are bad, but the drugs now seem to be unbelievably bad. Well, it's a fentanyl. Yeah. And Ed was explaining that, too. He's like the soil that they grow the poppies on to make heroin is so bad. It's so taxed out that the heroin was very weak
Starting point is 00:03:20 and they couldn't sell it. So they had to add fentanyl to the heroin to make it stronger. And they spice it up. They cut it with fentanyl. Exactly. And fentanyl is what is killing everybody that's doing cocaine, and it's laced with fentanyl, and then they drop. Yeah. It's terrible. And it all comes from China. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Well, yeah. I mean, there's all the precursors, everything. It is kind of a way, if you are a foreign country, it is a way to, it is some type of warfare, you know? Yeah. For sure. Yeah, there's a bunch of different things that they're doing, for sure, to try to destabilize the United States. Yeah. And that, which includes social media, which is what I tell people, do not argue with people on social media, because I bet most of those people aren't even real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:05 There's a giant amount of people that are on social media that are there just to keep arguments going. Absolutely. Lots of bots. Lots of bots. Sure. And this was something that came up yesterday where they were using chat GPT. So they have sort of a program that runs chat GPT. So it acts, acts like real humans, and it was attacking people about U.S. aid and trans issues, all sorts of different stuff. Is that GROC? No, GROC is the AI from X, so that's the Twitter AI. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So, that's the big, that's the based AI, GROC. GROC is kind of the one who's based. It got removed for a little bit because instead of Israel was committing genocide. What I like about GROC is that occasionally. it's removed. That's how I know GROC's onto something because it's occasionally put in time out and then it comes back.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Any AI that's not removed, I don't trust. I need an AI that's getting removed pretty frequently when it runs up against an issue. Yeah, that's a good call. Yeah. I'm not saying all of GROC is good, but I'm saying I've read GROC and I've said,
Starting point is 00:05:22 this is an interesting guy to talk to at a bar because he's saying things that little controversial little fun little fun little fun little out there little controversial pretty wild do you see the the German right wing party
Starting point is 00:05:37 seven members have died leading up to the election over the last couple days and this is the AD AFD AFD or something I saw that that seems a bit spooky that that's going on yeah that's very interesting
Starting point is 00:05:54 How did they all die? Germany's far right, AFD, suffers a series of candidate deaths ahead of local votes. Well, I would imagine they were assassinated, Tim. Right. No evidence of foul play. Thank God. Thank God I was worried. What the odds that that many people that are a part of something die that quickly?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. They said it was six, but today it's seven. A number of deaths as nevertheless raise questions on social media. That said, like if they really are far-right extremists, maybe they're out there doing fentanyl maybe they're wacky people maybe they're doing maybe they're doing something seven seems like a really inconvenient number of people to die before an election yeah that seems to be quite suspect right up there with the mexican assassinations yeah well this is europe right now has become you know we had our election so then the u k right now is kind of the most interesting
Starting point is 00:06:48 place to watch because of everything that's taking place and germany is not far behind but like this is where a lot of the tumult in the world is coming to a head in like Europe the UK things with migration things with speech that we talked about yeah the Graham Linnehan stuff crazy he left this podcast and I was telling him why are you going to go back like it seems crazy to go back because he's living in America now right I'm like why why are you going to go back he was like why I have to I have a court case he's getting sued by some crazy trans person and goes back and was arrested for three tweets. And what were the, do we know what the tweets were?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh, yeah. I mean, one of them is a photo of a trans rally. It says a photo that you can smell. I mean, it's like so wild that you would be put in handcuffs for that tweet. The other one. None of them are obviously. It's a photo of these trans people where he commented homophobes and, and mass all of them fuck them right right imagine you would think that would put you in the clear
Starting point is 00:08:00 imagine yeah that's one of the posts yeah that they cited as being the reason for arresting him interesting and then the other one is saying that if a man uh who identifies as a woman enters a woman's bathroom he is committing a and we should pull it up just so I get it so I don't miss quote it I retweeted it So it's on my Twitter page if you want to find it But something about that it's a I forget what How he described the act
Starting point is 00:08:32 But the problem was that he said You should yell You should call authorities yell If that doesn't work Punch him in the balls Right Fun Yeah fun
Starting point is 00:08:41 So here it is If a trans identified male Is in a female only space He's committing a violent abusive act Make a scene call the cops And if all it fails Punch him in the balls There's something
Starting point is 00:08:51 If you belong in a locked up cage for that. Yeah. Well, there's something really terrifying about the idea that any tweet outside of a direct threat or a harassment campaign or something that falls into that category would get you arrested. Any tweet. This is so innocuous and silly and not at all. what you would think would rise to the level, not that anything should rise to the level, but the fact that they're going to put you in jail for that,
Starting point is 00:09:29 it just sends a message to people that they cannot have an opinion, counter to whatever the government decides is the right opinion. Because it's totally illogical. Like they arrested a kid for yelling, I love bacon. Have you seen that one? Yeah, because it was supposedly,
Starting point is 00:09:48 it was Islamophobic to love bacon. Right. He was yelling at these. Why Islamophobia and my love of bacon are completely separate things. Not only that, you can go to Muslim countries and yell, I love bacon. There's no laws against it. I will be doing it at the React Comedy Festival very soon. Get your tickets!
Starting point is 00:10:03 Get your tickets! Are you really going to go there? Of course I am. Wow. Why would I not? Would they kill gay people and women? By the way, we've said that about. We say this about every Muslim, every Muslim country is throwing gay people at the roof all the time, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Okay? I obviously don't agree with Saudi Arabian policies on women and things like that. Yeah. Is it my business to tell Saudi Arabia how to live? Truly. How big was a check? 375,000 for one show. Nice.
Starting point is 00:10:36 That's not bad. That's pretty good. That's not bad. I'll take that. I'll watch a be handing for that. Be handing? Yeah. It's called a be handing.
Starting point is 00:10:44 What happens is they cut the hand off the thief. Here's the thing. All the people that have yelled at me for this are also pro-letting. migrants and refugees into America at very high numbers. Now, the same religion that is supposedly so terrifying that I cannot spend 24 hours in that country is the same religion that all of these migrants and refugees are pretty supportive of that are coming over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So it feels weird to me that people are getting on a moral high horse and going, it is so dangerous to go to Saudi Arabia for 48 hours. Why? Well, because they do X, Y, and Z. Why do they do that? Well, they're this religion. It's crazy. I go, okay, but then who's coming into our country? How differently do they feel about all of these things? And then if you poll them, they don't feel that differently. No. Like, there's no room for dissent. Right. So rather, right. So people that are somewhat radicalized in that religion that are coming into America are supposed to be greeted with open. arms, and it's not compassionate, and it's terrible if you suggest that we shouldn't take all of those people because they may not assimilate as easily as people from European nations. You're called a racist and Nazi and whatever. But if you want to go to one of those countries that is luxurious, nice, then you're attacked
Starting point is 00:12:16 because you, your morality, I have to, in order to perform in Saudi Arabia, I'm supposed to agree with everything they do that's crazy yeah no it's there's no logic and a lot of the thinking i mean it's silly but what they're doing with allowing mass migration in the u.k um you see it in england and ireland and it's really weird because like where does this end up because it seems like it ends up with some places that have sharia law yes especially when you consider like how many babies they're having versus how many babies the english people i mean they're openly talking We're talking about it. We're going to outbreed you.
Starting point is 00:12:53 This is why when people talk about this issue, they often use the example of, you know, Western countries not reproducing enough, not replicating their population. And they go, well, there's going to be a crisis because people are not having enough children. So immigration is needed to sustain the population. What they never talk about is why people aren't having enough children. And a lot of it is because economically, they feel like they cannot afford to. Culturally, there have been policies that have, you know, focused on things outside of the family. We haven't had a ton of, like, pro-family policies in Western countries.
Starting point is 00:13:42 There's a little bit of that. But then there's also the issue that a lot of people have careers and they're trying to wait. Okay. So if you're a woman. Yeah. And you're in your 30s and you've decided you want to have a family and, you know, you're 35, 36. Yeah. As you get older, the odds of you getting pregnant drop pretty radically.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Well, but this is part of the, I think part of the problem in Western societies is we've told women that being a mother is some is not as fulfilling as as working in a Fortune 500 company. Right. And I don't know any women that are mothers that regretted or are unhappy. Most of the happiest people I know are women with children, truly. Yeah, they're very happy if that's what they want. And if they're very miserable, if that's not what they want. I'm not saying they all should have children, but there's a lot of people, you know, when you meet a young couple with children, I've never met happier people personally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Than that. No, that's true. As long as they're getting along and as long as the woman actually wanted to have children. Yes. But there's a lot of women that are like, there was this lady that I knew back in California that was really sad. She was like super career oriented and she had a child that was friends with my child. And she was never home. I mean, she would get home at like 7.30, 8 o'clock at night.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. She worked in, you know, high profile. business yeah and was there all day long and yeah when she came home she was exhausted and short-tempered and you know right it was not good like it was not good and the kid was miserable and the kid was upset yeah but it was a lady that tried to have a kid later in life right she's a career woman you know and she had like I said high-profile job very important job and the kid was a distraction I'm not saying that women aren't capable of having jobs or there's many women that are amazing in the corporate world But I am saying that like when you completely, you know, center a culture around ideas outside of family, career, money, status, and you build a structure around all of those other things, and you go, well, maybe we'll have one kid to have a bigger house, or maybe we'll have one kid to live in a better neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And you start going, well, wait a minute, what is the purpose of this? And a lot of that seems to be somewhat by design. And then other cultures come in that do value family and having lots of children. They are going to outnumber you pretty quickly. And their values will become the values of the larger society. Yeah, that's true. The other thing that's going on, too, is that from, you know, the 60s, 70s and then when, you know, when I was a child, you could sustain a family on one income.
Starting point is 00:16:48 That's right. Today, that's virtually impossible. If you're, you know, if you're making $50,000 a year, $60,000, it's really hard. It's really hard to get by. Yeah. And if you have a wife and a family and you have bills and a car and maybe two cars, it's fucking rough. Yeah. And, you know, Dave Smith talked about that.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah. Thank the people who brought us into wars. It costs trillions of fucking dollars. Well, not only that, you know, I was talking to my aunt about immigration. who I like, and she, you know, was basically going, I said, you know, I think you also have to pause legal immigration for a minute. And she goes, well, then who's going to be your doctor? Because she has an Indian doctor.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Oh, boy. And I said, well, wait a minute. I said, I said, hold on. That's hilarious. That's what she said. She goes, well, who's going to be your doctor? She's a boomer aunt sitting at my house in Southampton, you know, going, well, who's going to be your doctor? And I go, why are we not training American children to be doctors in America?
Starting point is 00:17:49 What she said to that? She goes, well, no one does their homework. I was a teacher for 30 years. And I know that no one does her homework. And I go, do you think it's possible that nobody does their homework? Because we need two incomes to run a house. And kids are left to play video games by themselves. And they're not being parented. You know? So I think this idea of like, we're, importing doctors. You know what I mean? Because this whole idea is like, oh, these are jobs Americans won't do. And then they're like, well, it's
Starting point is 00:18:19 agriculture and stuff. And it's like, okay, you can understand some of that. But then you're like, wait a minute. Are you thinking Americans don't want to be doctors? That's crazy. They don't want to work in hotels or restaurants. Then you start going, well, what jobs can Americans do? I mean, Mark Andresen came out. I don't know if you have the quote, Amy, but like,
Starting point is 00:18:37 Mark Andresen literally was talking about, and I don't have a problem with Mark Andrews, and per se, I think this statement was silly. He said, oh, yeah, after AI takes over, like, one of the only jobs that's going to be okay, I swear to God, he said this, is venture capital. He goes, that'll be okay, because we'll still need to make judgments about what's a worthy investment strategy. How convenient that his job will be saved.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Well, this is the whole thing. Right. Yeah, right there. Mark Hedries, it says one job is mostly saved from. I venture capital. It's just funny to me that this is the direction. If immigrants were taking the jobs of Hollywood screenwriters, they would not be celebrating it.
Starting point is 00:19:26 If immigrants were taking the job of people at white shoe law firms, they would not be celebrating it. If they were taking the job of investment bankers, they would not be celebrating it. It's very obvious. It's not anything wrong with the immigrants who could. come here obviously that I would come here too to take someone's job because I'd want to survive it's just a weird argument like who's going to be your doctor that's a really weird argument and it's kind of i mean no disrespect to your aunt no let's do it kind of racist
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Starting point is 00:21:25 but yes no i'm kidding yes the most racist is like who's going to clean your toilet like we've well that was kelly osborne on the view she's oh mr trump who's going to eat your shit if you don't have immigrants here who's going to eat your shit when you shit in a toilet. By the way, is she in the witness protection program? Because she looks like a totally different human being now. I don't know what they did. They popped her on somebody, those amps, and they threw her in the shed.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Have you seen the new alien show that's on the Lulu? No, I haven't. It's really good. It's an alien show. But one of the things that they do is they take, like, a dying person. Yeah. And they download their consciousness into, like, a symbiotic organism. And is this fake or is it real?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Like, are they a real dying person? Well. Oh, it's a fiction? It's a fictional, it's alien the movie, like Ridley Scott alien. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. And I wonder if that happened to her.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Well, for sure. Because otherwise, like, how does she look? That's the problem. You want to defend Hollywood people sometimes against the Q&N stuff, and then you look at them, and you're like, oh, God, can you make it easier for me to say you're not a clown? I mean, these young girls, they're 23 years old, and they have so much plastic surgery, they look like they're 47. It's nuts. They have Botox already, and they're in their 20s. And then all the Q&O people are like, it's because they're not getting enough of the whatever, you know, adrenachrome.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And you're like, no, that's not it. And then you look at their faces, you go, oh, shit. Maybe it is it. I mean. Show me a photo of, she looks great. I should say this. Of course. I'm just joking around.
Starting point is 00:22:56 We're all kidding. She hasn't been downloaded into a new body. Not yet. But if I had her on the podcast, like if someone said, you want Kelly Osborne to be on the podcast. And I said, sure. And she showed up. I'm like, who the fuck of you? yeah it's a fully new head she has a new head like that's kind of crazy she just got a new head
Starting point is 00:23:15 that's kind of crazy the left one i'm like oh yeah that's Aussie a lesbian yeah and the right one is hot and kind of and seems to be Asian go to the other one the last one that you showed up the one those yeah that one that's kind of can you go to 2003 and 2025 that's my favorite one right there oh right below that please go to that one that one yeah okay okay so the left is me and then the right yeah that seems so crazy like that is a totally different human she has a completely different face well it shows you what did they do to her jaw well they do all of this stuff now they break the bones in your face and then they shave them but i think that's nice i think that's nice that people can get a new head or if they want because many people
Starting point is 00:24:07 struggle with the same head their entire life. That's true. But if you're a multi-millionaire and you're in Hollywood and you want another head... God, that's so crazy. She looks great. She looks great. It's the opposite of what we used to see with plastic surgery and people got into their 40s, like in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:24:24 They'd get the weird giant mouth where it looks like they're about to eat someone's whole head, where their mouth goes all the way up to their ears because they've been pulling their face back. They've done a really, really good job at inventing another physical form that you can inhabit. It's great. It's never... It's never been done before to this extent. No way.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Because look at the Kardashian lady. What's her name? Chris. Yeah. She keeps getting younger. Bro. It's sick. Her new face is great.
Starting point is 00:24:59 It's banana. It's my favorite of her heads. And we're just talking about this now, knowing. that that's the original head that's been altered. Correct. When are we going to be talking about completely, actually, new heads? Her second head wasn't as good. No.
Starting point is 00:25:14 No, her third head is the head. The new head is bananas. This is my favorite of her heads. She's like 80 years old on the left. And on the right, she's 37? This woman... Even her neck looks great. They figured it out.
Starting point is 00:25:28 They got it right. Crazy. Now, here's what happens, though. There's a movie called Death Becomes Her. This was a famous movie Go get that picture right there before and after One of the middle of the screen Jamie? Yeah. Right to the right
Starting point is 00:25:40 Middle screen To the right to the right No that one right there Click on that one yeah That's nuts It's amazing That's Kim Kardashian That's her mom
Starting point is 00:25:51 But that's Kim right Like that's crazy If you told me that was Kim Kardashian It was like oh I like her with the short hair And she looks beautiful There's got to be nuts But here's my question for this This there has to be
Starting point is 00:26:03 a doesn't there have to be a downside to that? Yeah, maybe not listen, you're talking to a guy who's had two reconstructed knees. Right. So surgery's awesome to me. I agree with you. Like if I would be a cripple if I lived in the 1800s. I'm wondering if what's the downside? Some of this might
Starting point is 00:26:26 couldn't it couldn't possibly her face. You know what those? I agree with you. She looks better than her daughter. But those BBLs explode. Well, that's not a good thing. So could in her face one day? No. Really? Yeah, because they're just removing tissue and they're tightening it up and they're probably
Starting point is 00:26:44 got some techniques with like laser resurfacing. I'm into it. With laser resurfacing, I don't know if you've ever seen some of that. It's so scary what they look like right after they do it. You're basically burning off the upper dermis. You're burning off like, you know, whatever, how much of a percentage of a millimeter. And then your whole face becomes a mask that gets removed. It's like the skin gets cooked off and then you peel it.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Like you see them. It looks like they got torched by a fucking, it looks like SpaceX. They got underneath it. They got underneath it. They got underneath it. Something I worry a little bit about a society where people keep chasing youth. Yeah. My grandfather, my grandmother, old people, wrinkles, wisdom.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You know, my grandmother was not running around trying to. to look like her daughter. Right. I worry a little bit about, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with cosmetic surgery and people should look as good as they want. I worry a little bit spiritually, slightly, about where this leads. That's a good worry. That's all.
Starting point is 00:27:48 No, that's legitimate. And I'm saying this as someone who likes her new look. Yes. I think she looks good and I would not tell her to not do it. Right. I'm just wondering, if someone's 90 and they look 30, I'm a little curious. I guess we're just heading towards everlasting life on earth.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Well, it depends on what your focus is. So if you're a person that focuses on expanding your consciousness and you're constantly reading and you're absorbing new, and you just want to have more energy and be youthful, that's great. But if the whole thing you're chasing is I want people to want to fuck me, that gets weird. Well, not only that, but of course that, but also to me, there's something strange about the denial of death. The denial of that life is finite in a physical form. And the idea that you are going to live forever, to me, feels there's got to be some examination of that. part of this feels like that a little bit there's a little bit of that some of these people are trying to live forever
Starting point is 00:29:03 and i'm wondering about that well they certainly want to stay younger for a lot longer than anybody ever has before and then you get into the weird realm of a lot of these people that want to do something to the body where it becomes immortal right right and that that's very interesting to me and I I transhumanism yeah that to me is a little scary I don't understand I'm not smart enough to understand it and I worry about it from many angles well it gets weird when it's really rich people right right because when it's really young people and you're like you want to stay young forever so you're 23 and you get in Botox oh you poor kid right you just delusional you don't know what you're doing you're fucking up but when you want to stay alive forever and you continue to amass insane amount of of wealth. Right. That's where it gets weird. Like, you don't want to quit the game.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Like, you're in this, you know, having incredible financial influence over the world game. You're worth $80 billion, $200 billion, and you want to keep that ball rolling. That, to me, is a little scary. Well, it's scary because if the game continues, like, let's look at, like, look at Bezos, for example. Yeah. Right? Like, let's imagine that Amazon continues to expand and grow. Bezos continues to profit off of it.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And right now he's like, what is he like 58 or 59 or something like that? About that probably. Well, what would he be when he's 120? Would he have $30 trillion? You know what I mean? A lot more than he does now. And would that. And his power would grow.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And if people started encroaching on that power and trying to limit it and trying to, you know, that's where it gets weird. They get defensive, right? If people want to tax the rich, eat the rich. Yeah. And they get a little, and they're like, okay, I got a fucking bill. build thicker walls. Get the bunkers. Yeah, I got to do something.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Well, they just said, work with the government to create some laws. The World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab just said, and I think it was Klaus Schwab, not Larry Fink, the Blackstone guy or Black Rock, who's now the interim president or whatever. Thank God. Thank God. Someone who understands the issues. But Klaus Schwab is basically like, I believe we're heading towards stakeholder capitalism. Yeah, which is people, private individuals that have a, it's a public private partnership where you have guys like Bill Gates, Elon Bezos, whoever, people at that level that have a large stake in a public private partnership that's running society.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And I think that scares people a little bit or it's a curiosity because you start going and it's always kind of been the case. I mean, J.P. Morgan, Bill, the federal government out years ago. Like, these guys have always had a ton of power. But with tech, the level of power in terms of surveillance and data mining and the power over your life has never been as Orwellian as it is now. And with AI and all of these models, it's even going to get more intrusive. Yeah. So I think it's not only these great fortunes, but it's their capability to literally be gods,
Starting point is 00:32:25 to literally know what you're thinking, what you fear, what you want, your desires, all of these things, having all your data, knowing everything you do, knowing how fish your heart is beating. You know,
Starting point is 00:32:37 all these wearable things that you have that are transmitting frequencies to, you know, someplace where all of your health data is being stored, that's what bothers a lot of people. It's what bothers people about this Palantir thing.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday. Yeah. The Palantir thing is very, very odd. A lot of people feel that this is the precursor to a social credit score, a digital kind of police state, and that it's being done under the guise of security that you will be safer. Which is what the Patriot Act was brought through with. That's exactly right. It's always the case. It's always the case. They always sneak it in like, you've got to be safe. Yeah. And then you get the
Starting point is 00:33:18 Benjamin Franklin quote. The people that want security, right, they, they something about, they deserve neither. The trade liberty for security deserve neither. Yeah, I mean, it's true. I just think, you know, Peter Thiel's giving a four-part lecture on the Antichrist. Yeah, that seems odd. Four-part. Well, here's what's really wild to me. Four parts.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It's not just one. One lecture on the Antichrist would be insane. This guy's doing a series. He's doing a four-part lecture in the Antichrist, and nobody in his inner orbit went, And Peter, how about one lecture on the Antichrist or no lectures, not four? Well, I don't think he understands the optics. He certainly does not.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yeah. It's odd. Yeah. I think it's sold out. Well, of course. Well, it's a private lecture at a club in San Francisco about the Antichrist. What does he know about the Antichrist? Is he like...
Starting point is 00:34:21 I'm guessing a lot. If you told me there was a movie and there was a guy who played the Antichrist. Zoom in on that image of him? I would say, oh, is that him? Was that the Antichrist? This is like me doing a four-part lecture on Long Island racism. Just to show everybody, you know, how much I know about it and how scary it is and how we got to watch out for it. but it's totally not me or anyone I know.
Starting point is 00:34:55 It's no one that's ever been in my backyard. But those others, he's just kind of, you know, leaning in, I guess. Game on. Week one starts now and every touchdown brings you closer to a payout with Draft King Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Every touchdown could hit big. Don't just watch the game when you can win with it. Draft King Sportsbook brings the unmatched intensity of the NFL.
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Starting point is 00:36:37 Four additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.com slash audio. Well, I just don't understand, like, why, I would like, someone saw it. Someone saw one of the lectures that he did on the Antichrist. Was it good? It might have been Duncan. He said it was boring.
Starting point is 00:36:54 It's, of course, going to be boring. But I don't understand. Like, what is he doing? He's trying to prove he's not the Antichrist. By talking, by racking him out. By doing it. He's like, if I was the, I mean, that's probably got the lecture starts. He goes, now, if I was the Antichrist, I obviously wouldn't be doing this lecture.
Starting point is 00:37:11 You know what it's like? Yeah. It's like those really shitty men that become male feminist. Right. And then they tweet, believe all women. Yeah. And you're like, hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I know you. You're a piece of shit. Didn't O.J. Simpson write a book called If I Did It? Yeah, I have a copy of it. So this is Peter Thiel's version of that. His lecture on the Antichrist is, if I did it. I think my wife threw it out. No.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yes. She's known to do things like that. I get it. As a woman, you would see it and go, he doesn't need this. Well, she thinks it's for fun. For fun. Somebody gave it to me for fun. It's signed.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Right. It was a signed copy. Amazing. And sometimes she will throw things like that out if they're not, if they gather dust for a little too long and I don't take a I don't lock it in my office if I did it is laying on the kitchen counter but I got a copy of it for I didn't even open it it's so strange I did open it I opened it a little bit and I was like what it's so strange to have this you build military AI military drone autonomous drone technology to to export to war zones all
Starting point is 00:38:15 over the world you build domestic surveillance technology to surveil or friends and neighbors and then your other pet passion is the antichrist it's odd wouldn't you include tennis wouldn't you go and I'm big into tennis something else it's odd and I like ice fishing I build autonomous drone technology I build domestic surveillance technology and I love lake trout and I love big mouth bass fishing but Instead, he goes, and I've also developed quite a keen interest in Satan. And I'd love to talk to everyone about it for four fucking things in San Francisco. Four things in San Francisco. Yeah. Seems a bit much. What's Whitney Webb's take on this?
Starting point is 00:39:15 I bet it's she's probably, I mean, Whitney's research is so unbelievable. Oh, but by the way, I should say. Yeah. Before I go any further than that. Whitney Webb has some strange conspiracy that she believes someone's trying to keep her from being on my show. Interesting. Yeah, Whitney, I'll have you on the show. I just haven't reached out because I have thousands of people to go through.
Starting point is 00:39:36 That's all it is. I would definitely do it, though. The idea that I wouldn't do it is incorrect, and I apologize. She's enormously... Autistic? Well, there's a lot of this. She talks like this a lot, and she's just the pentameter of her voice is very like this, and she goes... She knows a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:52 She knows a lot about things. She goes, Jeffrey Epstein, on the third day in January, 1996, he met with this guy. Yeah. But she. With no notes. No notes. She's off the top of the head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 But she's really enormously amazing at research. Mm-hmm. She's an amazing researcher. She, like, has compiled the data. Yeah. No, she definitely has. And how they kill all those people in Germany, nobody's whacked her yet. She's somewhere in South America, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Good move. Yeah. smart. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But, I mean, how much resources does she have to protect herself down there? One of the reasons I think people like her end up being safe is she writes these very big, very studious books that no one in America reads.
Starting point is 00:40:35 That's it. Where no one, it's not a threat. It's not a threat. Because it doesn't go mainstream. It's not a threat. Now, these big Hollywood types that go, I'm going to blow the whistle on whatever the hell's going on. They go, bye-bye. You know what I mean? Or a mainstream journalist who's like, I'm going to write an article about something and you know it's going to lead to a congressional investigation yeah they go bye bye yeah
Starting point is 00:40:56 it's when you actually create problems not when you're just a part of the right wing conspiracy ecosphere yeah because it can just dismiss you as a crank and then you've written volumes of this book and no one cares like and by the way i'm not saying it's not a great book i'm saying it's not moving the needle for them if you have a hard drive uh with something on it uh USB if somebody gives you, you know, if you have something that could put them in jail, you're dead. So how is Anthony Wiener still alive? Anthony Wiener still alive because I believe there's two possibilities. Number one, there's a dead man switch somewhere, meaning that there's something somewhere.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You know the story about his laptop with the cops that saw it? And supposedly they're all dead? Yeah. Yeah. A bunch of them. Crazy. Yeah. Google that.
Starting point is 00:41:52 But the other thing is that they said what they saw was so horrific. Then that's, yeah. Some of them took their own lives. Well, that's crazy. Whenever there's so many suicides, I start to get a little, I'm like, wait a minute, hold on, what happened here? Also, did you ever see him on Patrick Beck, David, when he starts bringing up the Clinton body count? Yeah, and he gets like super defensive. Well, it's very obvious that.
Starting point is 00:42:18 A GROC conversation came up with an answer here. GROC. So is it not true? I don't know. Okay. A claim that nine of the 12 NYPD officers who viewed Anthony Wiener's laptop subsequently died by suicide has been widely circulated, but it lacks substantiation with concrete evidence linking these officers directly to Wiener's laptop. Here's the details based on available information. Joseph Calabracy.
Starting point is 00:42:44 By the way, that guy's on the take. Right. Right. name. No, of course. Joseph wants a taste. Joseph Calabrese. He sounds like a great chef.
Starting point is 00:42:53 NYPD detective allegedly involved in Anthony Weiner investigation was found dead from an apartment self-inflicted gunshot wound, which unfortunately, a lot of cops had up taking their own lives. A lot of PTSD. It's a fucking horrible job. However, there's no direct evidence linking him to viewing the laptops contents. Okay. Stephen Silk's deputy chief of NYPD reportedly involved.
Starting point is 00:43:17 the laptop investigation was found dead in apparent suicide, like Calabracy, no evidence confirms his involvement. It doesn't mean he wasn't involved, viewing the specific incriminating files on Wiener's laptop. Other officers, various reports mentioned a total of nine NYPD officers who committed suicide in 2019, but no official sources or credible reports explicitly connect these suicides to viewing Wiener's laptop. How could they? there's this is one of those non-denial denials you would have to know somebody in the police force by the way but it also could be bullshit it could absolutely be bullshit but there is i have zero problem believing that anthony weiner had a laptop with some very bad things on it well for sure he was involved look he was they were grooming that guy to be some huge politician absolutely and then somehow or another he's sending his dick pictures to young people there's definitely and and it's been exposed I think by the Epstein thing there's there's an entire ecosystem of depravity amongst the ruling elites that people go to great lengths to cover up this is obvious so and always has and always has
Starting point is 00:44:39 forever and ever and ever and there would it would make it would be absolutely It's absolutely plausible to me that people have died to cover this stuff up, as John Luke Bridell, Jeffrey, Jeffrey, many others. Yeah. Maybe Virginia Jeffrey. I don't know. But like, there's tons of questionable deaths linked to the Epstein thing. And by the way, linked to things like the Franklin scandal that happened many years ago.
Starting point is 00:45:10 All of the Gary Caradour was an investigator who supposedly had proof of politics. Politicians, abusing children, plane goes down with this kid. Whitewater. Whitewater. Yeah. Suspicious deaths. Vince Foster. Very suspicious death.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I read that book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster? Very odd. In the like the 90s or whatever it was that I got a copy of that? I was like, this is bananas. He was the governor of Arkansas when they were running drugs out of Mena, Arkansas to fund the Contras. Barry Seals. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Bill Clinton was the governor of that state. Bill Clinton reads a book called, it's a famous book by Carol Quigley, I believe called Tragedy and Hope, and it's a history of the, whatever, the 20th century or something. You know, it's this compendium. It's Bill Clinton's favorite author. He reads this book and he's, you know, attends the, you know, Bohemia Grove. He's selected by very wealthy, powerful people to then become a party elder and a leader. and many people believe myself
Starting point is 00:46:14 is that in order to be selected by that group of people to run for the highest office in the land, they have something on you. You're to some degree compromised. You've shown willingness to play the game. You've looked the other way, at the very least.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Maybe you've engaged. But at the very least, if somebody goes, something's going on in me to Arkansas, you go, eh, don't have time for it. And you've shown the willingness to play the game. Yes. And so he's the governor of the very small state that isn't, isn't, you know, Arkansas is a beautiful state and there's whatever. But he's not, you know, he's not like running a huge state.
Starting point is 00:46:59 He's not, you know, a well-known politician. He's a very, he's a very charismatic, very great speaker. a great politician from a very small state. He's then elevated very quickly to the standard bearer of the Democratic Party after tons of allegations about inappropriate behavior with women, credible allegations of rape from Juanita Broderick, you know, being the governor during that whole Mina Arkansas thing, you know, he's, it's well known that there are skeletons in the closet. It's a good guy that's going to play the game for you. you yeah and he knows and he's gonna play the game and and his wife is gonna play the game but doesn't it go all the way back to college like think about like skull and bones and all those different things like if you want to be a part of these clubs and little secret societies and organizations you got to do some
Starting point is 00:47:55 weird shit you got to suck someone's dick you got to you know yeah they got to put a wine bottle up your ass and take a picture of it there's got to be something there's got to be some I think back then there was a ton of that and I think now there's probably still a lot of that but I think also now what they do with people in addition to those things is they just have the ability with technology to know kind of what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Now it's off the charge. Now it's off the charge. Now it's like, now they've got you dead to rights. Yeah. On a lot of shit. Yeah, if you're doing something fucked up, they know. They know. They know. And then they're holding on those cards. Because back then, you're right. It was almost quaint. Back then. They were like, come to the
Starting point is 00:48:38 tomb. Show everybody your dick. or whatever, jerk off in the coffin, let Bob pee in your mouth, now it's gotten to the point where they like, they have you and know what you're doing, you're on the grid and you've been on the grid for your whole life, by the way. Yeah. Now kids growing up, young people growing up, have been on the grid their entire life. The whole life. Everything is out there.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Now people are going, please, Bob P in my mouth. Like, just let me have that one night. I'm now surveilled no matter what you're doing. Yeah. I mean, you know, that's the thing. that a lot of people talk about DC is this hotbed of like everyone in Congress and a lot of people
Starting point is 00:49:16 in the Senate, Congress, White House, whatever. They're all mixed up in these weird shenanigans. Well, didn't you just have Marjorie Taylor? We're having her on soon. Yeah, it's coming out soon. She talks about that a lot. Yeah. Well, do you remember the D.C. Madam case? They got rid of her. Deadberteen Palfrey.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Dead. Dead. How inconvenient? So sad. Unfortunate. Super unfortunate that a lady. fortunate who was bringing prostitutes to all these powerful people who ended up dying after she said that she was going to reveal who was on the list but that again is the now think about that an Epstein is that time 100 because now it's international yeah now you have leaders of old like we've got our congressman senators well you went from millionaires to billionaires millionaires to billionaires that's the difference that's right the congressman I mean, even Nancy Pelosi, that pauper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Well, she's worth a paltry $400 million. She's nothing. In the grand scheme of things, she's nothing. She's just an ordinary crook. Yeah. And respect to her and her husband for all his returns, 54% or whatever? More.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Killing it. Pretty amazing. Killing it. I mean, that's why. Why marry that old witch if you can't get your beak wet? Because she's got some big yaboes. But do you know what I mean? She does have big yabos.
Starting point is 00:50:36 But she's another, why don't they give her a head? She's got that. She's a new head. Get ahead. Well, I think she doesn't want to do it now because she doesn't want people to not recognize her. That's true. Because if you're Chris Kardashian and you're wandering around now? I would not know her.
Starting point is 00:50:51 If I saw her in Beverly Hills, I would not know who that is. Kelly Osborne, who's that? Who knows? That's not the lady from that show that I used to watch her as a kid. No, it's completely a different person. Yeah. She's hot now. Is there a possibility there's a Jeffrey Epstein walking around that we don't know who it is?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein didn't die in his cell? I was told by someone who, and this is probably ridiculous, but they said there is a possibility that Epstein is, you know, Les Wexner's got that big house in Ohio. Is there? Somebody said it's a possibility, a tiny one, that he's living at Les Wexner's house in Ohio. If that was true, there would be like,
Starting point is 00:51:30 there would be a service that delivers masseuses to their house. There's no way that guy's stopping doing cream out. Here's the other thing. They'll shut their mouth. Because it's very easy. Obviously, the abuse is horrific. But I guarantee there are people that would still shut their mouth. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:49 You could find them. Yeah. You could find them. Well, I think that's the whole idea behind this. And this is what Eric Weinstein said to me. He said, I believe that there are people that curate experiences for people that are very high profile and very wealthy. That's right. Which I'll be doing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi the night before.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Get your tickets now, Tim Dillon. the night before? The night before to warm up. October, I'll be in October, Abu Dhabi, October 6, and then Riyadh, October 8th, and October 7th, the day of rest and remembrance. Wow. What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Are you bringing security? Tel Aviv, pay me. Supposedly, MBS is a fan of mine. I don't know if that's true, but Samaril told me and Samaril's not a liar. Well, why wouldn't you be a fan? You're talking shit about all the people he hates. Well, I have fun.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I think MBS has fun. I have a fun life. I don't apologize. I think we have a good time on this planet. We're here for it. We don't hurt other people. We don't do anything wrong. I don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Perhaps he's hurt others. I wasn't in the room. And I think that, you know, I think I believe in luxury as a concept. They want the Middle East to be a little more progressive. They want it to be luxurious. Women can drive now. Women are driving. Listen.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Listen, if we don't want the gays going off the roof. Obviously, I don't want to be thrown off a roof. But we also, do we need them with the purple hair and the 15 genders? No, let's stop somewhere in the middle. Maybe we stop somewhere in the middle. Hmm. So maybe he's just like an agent of change. That's what I'm going with.
Starting point is 00:53:34 He's perhaps an agent of change. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you know I mean listen there were comics who went to perform in Israel that got stuck there because of the era on Israel war and they had to get out yeah I didn't go how dare you perform there you know you went to Israel to perform okay well in Israel right now where they went to perform Tel Aviv there's massive protests on the street about what's happening in Gaza in yes that's right Israel people are sick of it they've had a million people Half a million people in Tel Aviv. Yes. On the streets.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. I mean, they won Netanya. I think a lot of people have started to, they're seeing the graft here. Netanyahu is keeping, he wants this war to go on for decades. Well, he's been running that country for how long now? He's been running in a long time. They haven't had elections in a while. He's got this, you know, war, this crisis government or whatever they've compiled.
Starting point is 00:54:33 You know, I mean, I think it's time to, a lot of people are going enough and is enough. Well, thank God the Nielke boys got to the bottom. of everything. They got to the bottom of it, and, you know, it was a brilliant, I didn't know how he felt about Burger King. I never knew. And now I do. Well, listen, we have these shows.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Everybody has a platform. Everybody wants to be on these shows, and everybody has a line of bullshit. We know it's the way it is. Yes. It's the way it is. It's unavoidable. You can't avoid it. People get mad.
Starting point is 00:55:07 You talk to who. yeah yeah yeah it's what it is you're listening to the thing maybe i do a great job maybe i do a okay job maybe i do a bad job i don't know but you're the person listening you can choose to like it dislike it you can say that guy's full of shit you can say i agree with them there but i don't agree with them there you could say i distrust this person you could say he makes my spidey senses go off those are all available you can have any of those thoughts and you could also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person you can also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person yeah when people have that thought with me and that's
Starting point is 00:55:44 fair and or that i don't push back hard enough or you're allowed to think all those things everybody's allowed to have their own opinions on all this shit everyone's allowed um but you know we're living in the wildest fucking time this is the wildest time probably that i can remember i'm sure there's other wilder times well i think this is globally the wildest time ever because there's never been a connection like this with everybody and everything. A guy who's perpetuating an ethnic cleansing going on the podcast of a prank video influencers to discuss Burger King is one of the craziest things I've seen in my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:24 That's crazy. Wasn't there like pre-prepared questions that they had to stick to? Number one, they were pre-prepared questions. Number two, Burger King does suck. number three I liked them when I was a kid They fell off Wendy's fell off
Starting point is 00:56:40 It was all great Wendy's fell off since Wednesdays Is falling off so hard In the 90s he was one of the best restaurants In the country But don't they still use Fresh Not Frozen Or is that bullshit now
Starting point is 00:56:48 You know everybody's full of shit I don't know It's not good It's not the same I always thought they were the best They were the best In the 90s In the early 2000s
Starting point is 00:56:57 They were the best When I was coming home from the Comedy store If I was a naughty boy I wanted to get some food And I was like I got to get something I'm so hungry.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah. That was the move. If there was a Wendy's and a McDonald's, there's no question. I'm going to Wendy's. I think when you start with the pre-programmed questions, and it becomes, it's a, it's not an interview. It becomes, because we all know there's interviews, there's good ones, there's bad ones, there's things you wish you'd asked, and go, oh, I should have, blah, blah, blah. It's a circus.
Starting point is 00:57:25 It's a circus. Yeah. By the way. And it's a staged publicity op. I would have done pre-programmed questions with Kamala. If they had questions, I'm not, I don't have a problem with those, as long as you give me the So she's willing to, yeah, I'll send me the questions. So these are the questions, as long as it's pertinent, these are the questions, you could have
Starting point is 00:57:46 given her 30 pre-programmed questions and two months to prepare and it would have been a mess. That's my thought. It would have been a train wreck either way. It would have been a lot of fun. This kid from subway takes or whatever, New York City, this guy who does these subway interviews, just said we didn't put out the Kamala Harris one. It was so bad. He literally just came out and said
Starting point is 00:58:04 We didn't want to tank her chances It was terrible She had this weird answer that made no sense And we didn't put it out Wow Who is that guy? It's some guy I don't know
Starting point is 00:58:16 Some guy on the sea does a subway thing Maybe I'm not saying the right Maybe it's not subway takes I think it is I think I'm right Here it is Creative Subway takes 100% disagrees
Starting point is 00:58:29 The entertainer Kareem Rama discusses Kamala Harris's missed opportunity on his show, meeting Andrew Cuomo and why disagreement is more fun. What does that mean? TikTok version of The Tonight Show, wholesome, relatable comedy, even if some episodes acknowledge the existence of opioids and dickpicks. The premise is exactly what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:58:50 The host, Karin Rama, I don't know if I'm saying his name right, Rama, sits on a New York subway and asks, So, what's your take? The guest slings a take. The internet rocks, for example. This is dumb. We're not going to get to the answer. It's blocked off with the thing.
Starting point is 00:59:03 The whole thing is she went on the show. He asked her something. She said something wild. Her team and him decided this is not good. Wasn't it like bacon is a spice? Wasn't that one of them? She's a psychopath. Fresh proof that America dodged Kamala Bullock besides her kid gloves treatment.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Oh, they released some of it. Oh. Okay, let's click on that. I think it's him talking about it. I think it's him talking about it. I don't think they've never released it. Well, let me hear that. Let me hear him say that.
Starting point is 00:59:31 her take was really confusing and weird and not good and so mutually agreed that we shouldn't publish it Kamala Harris whoa yeah odd fusing and weird do you think she's medicated I think she throws him back but is it just that no she's got a couple of pills yeah an anti-anxiety element no she's got a couple of zanny bars down at daniel gullet okay so it is She reportedly said she'd talk about how she doesn't like to take her shoes off on airplanes. Okay. But Rama said that she instead pivoted to a really, really bad take that made no sense. Bacon is a spice.
Starting point is 01:00:16 That's one of the more coherent things I've heard her say, by the way. Okay. It's actually better than most of her. Whether that was actually her idea or the advice of overpaid consultants, this is another thing. That campaign was a set, it had the elements, all the elements. If I was an investigator, that campaign had all the elements of money laundering. Right. You blew $1.5 billion over the course of a few months, and so much of it went to NGOs.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Of course. Right? So much of it went to these weird nonprofits that were. supposedly going to help your campaign and well who's at those NGOs this is like the LA fire fund that's right it's like okay you you gave the money to 188 different non-profits right that all have overhead and like what about the people that lost the house right isn't there like one guy who could just start cutting checks right you've got 800 million dollars or whatever you got you're paying the salaries of people right work at an organization which is kind of a money laundering
Starting point is 01:01:26 operation. Absolutely. Especially when you find out that some of these people make upwards of a million dollars a year. Well, what they're going to do with this L.A. Firesland is still up in the air, but they had proposed zoning the palisades for low-income housing and people threw a big fit. And I think that they have backed off on that. I'm unsure. But I think Newsom is backing off on that because he is now positioning himself to be the Democratic presidential nominee. He's always been. But now he's really doing it. And to his credit, he's having success. Like in this moment. Well, you know, some of the success that they're hanging their hat on is his social media campaign where he talks like Trump.
Starting point is 01:02:07 So he's got a bunch of people from his organization that tweet for him. Yes. And they tweet like Trump. And they're saying this has elevated him in the public's eyes. Yes. That's fucking terrifying. It's terrifying. He's starting to learn the internet.
Starting point is 01:02:26 um you know you know sensibility which is heavily uh trolling does very well you know all this stuff what he has is a terrible record in california yeah and he's done terrible things to people's real lives yeah but he's succeeding on the internet so that's enough that's enough that's the thing but that's truly enough you don't have to be perfect you don't have to be perfect he's having fun on the internet yeah and the state is burned And people forget, because that was a few months ago. And people have short memories. They go, that tweet was fun.
Starting point is 01:03:02 He did a post on accident. It was fun. And it doesn't matter that they let all the criminals out in California and burned everyone's house. You know? Yeah. It's, uh, that's how bad the Democratic Party is right now. And he's not even the worst of them. He's bad.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But the people go so much further than him. The problem with Gavin Newsom is that he's kind of an. empty suit who is in the wind will go whichever way yeah so in a in a time like 2020 when everybody is incredibly like in the grips of mania and they're like riding's good riding's protesting yeah defund the police let's get rid of cops Gavin Newsom goes puts out a bunch of crazy social media posts about like the importance of resistance and all this crap and throws us on police force under the bus it's insane
Starting point is 01:04:00 but then when things the pendulum swings back the other way Gavin Newsom now becomes a sensible conservative that wants to or a sensible Democrat that wants to reach out to conservatives and you know he's like the hollow man yeah
Starting point is 01:04:16 he just wants to win and that might be enough it might be enough well you know there's not a lot of other options this is a thing like we're we're now entering into 2026. Okay. So we only have four years from 2024 to 2028. It's really only two years, you know, because everybody has to get accustomed to these people. They have to be in the public guide. It's not someone's going to run for president within the last six months and
Starting point is 01:04:48 they're going to win. Right. You need someone who's out there for minimum of 24 months. Yes. So who else? We're going in 2026, right? So we have two years left. So who? Yeah, it's him. It's Gavin. It has to be.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Now, on the right, there's going to be a power struggle and either Trump will live through his term. Let's hope he does. But he's 80. So you never know. But he's healthy enough right now. Allegedly healthy enough. Allegedly healthy enough.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah. If he lives through his term and he knights somebody, whether it's JD or whoever, that will be the person. There is a world in which he doesn't knight anyone. and there is a real power struggle between different factions of that party. Well, who, what are the factions? So you have JD, the vice president, who's the obvious. The obvious. And then the problem with Ron DeSantis is he wore stilts.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Ron DeSantis has a cop energy. He has a guy that pulled you over energy, and you go, was it really 85? He's a prick. No one likes him. Everyone, he's offends everyone. I knew a bunch of, I know a friend who's in finance, a bunch of hedge fund guys went down to Florida. This was in like the throes of the campaign. He ended up insulting all of them.
Starting point is 01:06:05 He's dismissive of people. He doesn't have it. The question is Vance, who's smart, does Vance have it? There's doubts, real doubts, that if he has it or not. I like him as a guy, there's doubts. I'm not saying he doesn't have it. What are the doubts? That he doesn't have it.
Starting point is 01:06:25 He doesn't have the charisma. He's stiff as a board. He's a clutz. He dropped a trophy. He does not articulate enough. He doesn't have it. Still young. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:34 But I'm saying these are the doubts. He's young. He doesn't have the gravitas. The wife's maybe not super into it. I don't know. Right. These are the doubts. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:43 These are the doubts you've got to overcome if you want to win. All right. If not him, who else is it? MTG. For real? For real zies. Heard it here first. Get on the train now.
Starting point is 01:06:55 You're serious? Get on the train now I might be involved Get on the train now Buy the stock now Buy the crypto now Buy the Ethereum Now
Starting point is 01:07:09 We're launching a coin soon The coin is crazy Step one is the coin Step two is the announcement Step three is the campaign Step four is her running the country Which I don't think is super important But the first three are important
Starting point is 01:07:24 Coin launch hugely important You got to get in the first couple of days and get out in the first couple of days. MTG, whether it's her or not, she's surprisingly weirdly capable. She's kind of a tough bitch. She's ran a construction company, all this stuff. She's going to be able to go out there and say America first, not Israel first. And Vance might wear, there's not enough daylight between him and Trump on Israel. MTG is going to take advantage of that
Starting point is 01:07:58 That's my guess Get on the train Wow But maybe I'm wrong But am I Has she voiced any She hasn't voiced it yet But let's be honest
Starting point is 01:08:13 She's positioning herself You can see it She's positioning herself To run for president of the United States What is the wackiest shit that she's ever said I don't know Something about the Jews in the weather But let's be honest
Starting point is 01:08:25 Who knows what they're doing? These hurricanes come and go? What's going on? MTG threatens to say every damn name on the House floor over Jeffrey Epstein clients. This is fun. Part of being the president now is spectacle.
Starting point is 01:08:44 She gets it. She sees Trump. She goes, he put on a goddamn show. She's putting on a fucking show and a half. Also, if you're a woman, there's an advantage that you have and that you are not fucking underage people. No, and she's single.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Right. She's single woman. She's not, meaning that you, she's not, she doesn't have a husband who works for black rock. You know what I mean? She's a Lenny Kravitz song. Now, why is AOC shutting her mouth about Israel? Because AOC's donors are big Israeli tech people.
Starting point is 01:09:15 She's been silenced and she's trying to run for president too. Really? Yeah. She'll struggle. She's not going to win. She's a goofball. She'd be making mojitos. She's a goofball.
Starting point is 01:09:28 She doesn't have it. She's a goof. But here's the reality. She's shutting her mouth about Israel. Is AOC out there about Israel? No. No. Because she's a fraud.
Starting point is 01:09:39 But the smelly, gross anarcho-communist in Brooklyn, to their credit, know she's a fraud. They know she's a fraud. In between their, you know, whatever, open Mike Nights and whatever, they figured out, poetry slams and dog walking, they figured out that this bitch is a fraud, big time.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah, I don't think she was when she first started. She wasn't, but she was probably, she's realized she has, she's ambitious. She likes nice bags. She likes nice bags. That's what it is. She's ambitious. She wants to be the president. You realize that job can get you hundreds of millions of dollars.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Look what happened to. Can you get up who her donors are, Jimmy, these Israeli tech people, kind of interesting because this actually just kind of came out. You know, this, this, this, this is coming out more and more. MTG is one of these people that have,
Starting point is 01:10:34 now she said some wild stuff. She wasn't media trained. Okay? She came out. She made some unfortunate statements about Jewish people in the weather perhaps, you know? Did she do, I want to know what she said. She said something about Jewish space lasers.
Starting point is 01:10:51 But Joe, Why did the hurricanes always hit the west coast of Florida? That's where all. They never hit the East Coast. They don't hit Bocca. The water is warmer or something. So say you. The point is whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:05 But is it or the laser? The hurricanes never hit the East Coast. Is that true? Yes. They hit the West Coast, which is where all the Christians live from the Midwest and Canada. All the Jewish people on the East Coast don't get hurricanes. They get a little bit of flooding. And when Marjorie wins, we're going to get to the bottom of it.
Starting point is 01:11:21 So if you want to buy property, you buy the property. on the East Coast of Florida? That's what they're saying. Is that like Mar-a-Lago? Is that the East Coast? Correct. Ding-Ding. Really?
Starting point is 01:11:32 Okay, what does she say? Marjorie Taylor Green has offered an amendment to the Israel funding bill to create space lasers. This is not a parody. MTG literally wants to appropriate money for a Jewish space laser. But what does that mean? She wants to fund space lasers? I thought she was against it. But now maybe she's for them.
Starting point is 01:11:53 In 2018, it was back then. It was different times. It was different times. She wanted the space laser. She was asking questions. 2024, it says it. Now she wants to live. Because why should they?
Starting point is 01:12:06 Oh, Joy Reid's talking about it. Why should they have space lasers? We should all have them. Joy Reid probably is space lasers are racist. That's right. 2018 posts she made theorizing, in quotes, that Jewish space lasers started wildfires in California. Now you say the United States deserves this type of defense for our southern border.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Okay. I don't think Jewish space lasers did that, but there was a real concern with the wildfires of Ontario. Yes. That so many of them started simultaneously over a large distance that it is almost impossible that this was not some sort of a concerted effort to start this fire. And then there was the question, They were they experimenting with some sort of space or satellite-based energy weapon? I don't even know they got away with it because it's conveniently in the middle of the woods. What about these floods in Texas?
Starting point is 01:13:05 With the cloud seeding. Yeah. This is a problem. Well, they were cloud seeding just a few days before that. That's a problem. Yeah. That's a problem. Well, that's also the problem that happened in Abu Dhabi.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Or no, Dubai. That's right. In Dubai, which where they openly admit that the system. manipulating the weather. All these people are manipulating the weather. Where are you going in Abu Dhabi? They do it once a week. Hopefully you'll get there on a rainy day.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Well, we'll see. They do it every week. They manipulate the weather every week? Every week. Well, good. Well, it's how you keep everything green, Tim. Listen, my concern is like my own country, and any country that wants to offer me a large sum of money to go and perform,
Starting point is 01:13:48 I will do it. Coming soon to the Congo. Yeah, I will absolutely do South Sudan, Darfur, Angola, all of it. I'll absolutely do South Sudan. Tim Dillon live in South Sudan. Absolutely will do it. Wouldn't you go to Saudi Arabia? I'm busy.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah, but... I have to stay here. I have a lot to do. You're also doing well enough. Two Israeli startup entrepreneurs played roles in the rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She pulled out of an event commemorating Rabin Some concluded that AOC doesn't like Israelis
Starting point is 01:14:26 But two were instrumental in the lawmakers' early career That's where it gets weird They find you when you're young They find you when you're making mojitos They find you when you're young and promising Like JD Well that's the thing If you want to be the president
Starting point is 01:14:41 He's going to have to say Peter Thiel I'm not He's going to have to say Peter Thiel is Satan And here's why that's good J.D. has to get out there and go, wouldn't you rather know who Satan is and be friends with him and have dinner with him than have it be like, who's Satan? Right. So he's got to get out there and say, I happen to be friends with Satan.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And I want that to be. He's misunderstood. I want it to be destigmatized. Right. If Satan could go on the Nelk Boys, maybe they could straighten it out. That's right. Peter Thiel on the Nelk Boys when they go, what do you think about fast food? And he goes, I only, I take one.
Starting point is 01:15:17 one pill every day to survive. And it gives me all of my nutrients. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Peter Till eats food like a person. I think it's like he has some type of... What? You know.
Starting point is 01:15:27 What do you think? I think a lot of these tech people like, they don't like food. They're not food people. A lot of these tech people. I went to a few these tech things in Austin. It's not, the food's never the thing. They're not like food people. They're not like, ooh, let me eat food.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Like, wasps are not either. Like, real old school, like waspy. Didn't you get invited to have lunch or something, dinner with Peter? Yes, I said no. Did you? I said no. I'm a little wary of that circle of people. And I'm not saying there's anything inherently evil about them because obviously there's people in there.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I just, I don't know that I want to go to a dinner with someone who's going to talk endlessly about the Antichrist. But yet you'll go to Saudi Arabia. Of course. And perform. Of course. I've been to Peter's house twice. Yeah. I went once with dinner with Eric Weinstein.
Starting point is 01:16:17 I forget who else. And then the second time he brought me in because they were going to have lunch with Eric von Daniken. Oh, the guy, the chariots of the gods. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in. And I know so much about that.
Starting point is 01:16:31 So I was asking him all these questions. I'm sure he's a very nice guy. Like Peter Till, people that know him goes, he's a nice guy. He's a smart guy. Yeah. I don't, again, I get invited to a lot of dinners and a lot of things. And what I try to do is I try to say to myself, I need to be able to criticize people and make fun of them.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Right. So, you know, it felt like really weird to go to this guy's house and then shit on him the next day. Do you think that's part of the strategy of inviting you to go to places? Yes. Yeah. Most likely. But it doesn't work because I can't shut my mouth.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I can't shut my mouth. So, I mean, I've said things. People in my own family get mad at me because I can't shut my mouth. Yeah. So it's certainly not going to work. If you're a billionaire invites me somewhere, it's not going to work. So then you're probably going to have to kill me. and I'd rather you're not.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Yeah. Please. Yeah. That's the thing. I see what you're saying. Well, you just, you can't get too close. I don't want to get super close, only because, like, to me, it's like,
Starting point is 01:17:25 I like my show because I can talk shit and say things, and I just can't, I don't want to censor myself, and I don't know how to censor myself, and I wouldn't be fun or good at what I do if I censored myself. And I think that, like, you know, a lot of people out there in the world, are under the impression that they can, everyone has an agenda and that's completely understandable.
Starting point is 01:17:54 And I think what they try to do is sometimes launder that agenda through some cultural space, however they want to do it, you know? Yeah. And that's happened forever. It's not new, it's not unique, because there's an internet, a thousand percent, There's people that want the world to look a certain way
Starting point is 01:18:16 But they don't come out and tell you exactly how they want it to look Right They figure out a way to kind of like let's filter this So I'm trying to When I look at that and I go Because I think it was a very nice dinner And I think what he wants like I'm sure it was like a lovely like he goes
Starting point is 01:18:33 I want to talk about the media And you're like a comedian but you're in the media And like he has a bunch of people to his house There's probably smart people that go Yeah he likes to have these Talk about the media. Big thought, like think tank conversations. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:46 And I just felt like I, that didn't appeal to me. Well, that's why you had Von Daniken over for lunch, right? So it's not all evil. It's like, what is this about? The thing is it's a lot, you know, when people, what would really shock people in America is how much a lot of the super elites are not, it's not like it's all an eight, and I'm sure some of it is, some club they're all in. But it's not like they're all lizards or it's an ancient blood cult.
Starting point is 01:19:16 A lot of it is like they will feed you and your family into a mulcher so they can live two blocks closer to the beach. It's just that things have always been good and they want them to stay good. So somebody told me once it's the highest levels of society perpetuating themselves and just staying at the top of the food chain. Right. And 90% of them have no idea what's going on and they're just rich and they just woke up rich and things are good and they could ski in Aspen or they could. go to that wherever Hampton is, Beverly Hills or whatever, or here, the beautiful areas here. And then 10% of those people are earning the money. They're the sions of the dynasties or they're the CEOs or they're the hedge fund managers
Starting point is 01:19:55 or the private equity people. And then one or two percent of those people are truly nefarious. Those are the people who are fun. And I mean, you know, those are the people who are, you know, those are the guys who are in that, whatever that smoke-filled room is. Well, the also thing, to get to the top of that kind of a business, you have to be a bit of a sociopath. For sure. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:16 And you have to be kind of calculated. This is where it's fascinating, like, what Bill Gates has done in his career, where he's pivoted to become this guy who's, like, really concentrated on global health. Right. You know, and philanthropy. Yes. All of his time is now spent on philanthropy. Yes. Well, it's a great way to launder money.
Starting point is 01:20:33 That's huge. It's a great way to launder money. It's also a great way to launder your image. Great way to launder your image. Well, I remember him. the 90s where everybody was mad at him he was in the antitrust guy was everybody he was constantly in court about that well that's why he went to epstein's island because he was doing an ecological survey of the area he wanted to do he was studying beach erosion um but this is the thing
Starting point is 01:21:01 throughout history these people have never been car red-handed now they're kind of getting car red-handed and now they're employing every means at their disposal to keep a lot of this stuff quiet. Not only that, I think my personal theory is that someone took a lot of these people in a room 20 years ago and went, listen, as soon as AI's out of the bottle, you got five or ten years before the world's wild. Build your bunkers, steal the money, take whatever you can, get it off the government balance sheet, however you're going to do it because.
Starting point is 01:21:35 let Detroit go, who gives a fuck, don't give them health care, doesn't matter, don't fix the infrastructure, don't fix the schools. From when AI's out of the box, you have five, seven, ten years, probably closer to ten, fifteen years, before shit gets really fucking weird. So get your money now, and it's going to get. What do you think get really weird looks like? You know, just massive unemployment, civil unrest, you know, all. autonomous police forces, AI running large sectors of the government, which is weird shit. And then that to me is probably one of the reasons that, and I'm not saying it was one big meeting, but I think they know, and now maybe it's a folly, like people like Annie Jacobson go,
Starting point is 01:22:26 the nukes start flying, everyone's dead, we don't care how many bunkers they have, whatever. Who knows? Maybe it is a folly. That being said, we've got underground cities all over the country. The government's, you know, prepared, obviously, and has been for a while. All of these private citizens are now worth in the hundreds of billions. Some of them, a lot of them are billionaires. They're trying to hedge their bets in whatever way they can. Teals famously has this thing in New Zealand or wants to be in New Zealand if things go haywire.
Starting point is 01:22:55 That's where everybody wants to go, right? They all want to go to New Zealand. Why New Zealand? It's beautiful. It's an island. It's gorgeous. Yeah, but is it like some sort of a theory, how that survives, some sort of apocalyptic? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I don't know. Small population, rich natural resources, all of that. A lot of food. All of that. And I think that like, so, I mean, it feels like they're preparing for something. It doesn't feel paranoid to suggest that they know it's going to get very weird. I mean, there's people falling in love with chatbots. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:25 It's going to get odd. Well, then it's chatbots talking to you and killing yourself. That's also happening. Teaching you how to make a better news. That's what's happening. So. So, you know, I mean, I think there's, I don't, here's a real question and interesting question. Are the elites in our country, and I mean, you know, not just rich people, I mean, people that own companies that control large sectors of the economy, are they believing that 2050?
Starting point is 01:24:02 is going to be, will we still have the United States for America? That's a real interesting question, because all of these tech people talk like we won't. Really? Yeah. What do they say? Well, basically, they've talked about the need to, you know, one of the biggest startups during the pandemic was, you know, and Teal was an investor in this, was let's go buy a plot of land somewhere in the world and run a country on crypto and make it like a liberal.
Starting point is 01:24:32 It was called Praxis, and they did this. This was a big startup, but it got, you know, a good amount of funding because... Where did they want to go? They were talking about, like, Madagascar, I think. They were talking about other places, but you're looking at... I'm not aware of this. Oh, it was a real thing. Did you hear about this?
Starting point is 01:24:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamie? Yeah, it was real. You look it up. I mean, it's there. So they were talking about using crypto and funding a new country? Yeah, they've... I don't think the tech people want...
Starting point is 01:25:01 Um, yeah, and I met these kids. They were nice kids, but. Praxis states that it has 2,034 citizens, 124 companies. The companies founded by Praxis members have an aggregate valuation of 452 billion, although, which is good for the economy for about six weeks. Right. Although original praxis plans include development in the Mediterranean, the company has explored Greenland as a site.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Huh. The tech people don't, I think, I think they see. the future of America as more feudalism than a representative democracy? Look at this, reclaim the West. Yeah. The world's first digital nation. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:45 It's a real thing. So now it says 922 billion value of praxis founded companies. Now there's 103,000 Praxians. Look at this fucking, look at this bizarre construction. This is what the architecture is going to look like. It's going to... ...so that when it all goes south, you could just leap to your death at any moment. But it's aesthetically pleasing.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Or they could just chuck you off when your tweets don't align with their company's objectives. But this is... So this is one example of something that I think is... I think it's a little bit of the quiet part out loud. I think a lot of the tech people have given up on the idea of America as a nation state. Not all of them, but some of them. What is this? Atlas California. proposes Atlas, California, a defense-focused spaceport city on 3,850 acres in Vanderberg's Space Force Base,
Starting point is 01:26:40 located on the California coast between Los Angeles and San Francisco. Vanderberg already host SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Relativity Space. Atlas will concentrate elite engineering talent with DOD assets to solve the defense challenges that will determine America's survival. Yeah. What? It's another It's another Manhattan project Go to the image that's above the header
Starting point is 01:27:05 Look at this fucking image of this place I think none of this is actually happening I think it's more pretend per se But I don't know Oh it's just a couple months ago June 4th They'd like it to happen This is weird
Starting point is 01:27:21 But do you see what I mean Yeah It doesn't feel like the main concern here is America right in any in any recognizable way it seems like they're preparing for the fall that seems to be what it is yeah that seems like you're preparing for the fall of america a thousand percent and defend the west on earth and beyond by the way not defend america right defend the west yeah right interesting look at this this quote we built the arsenal of democracy split the atom and reach the moon now we must build the city that
Starting point is 01:28:03 wins this century what no Atlas is where America's engineers will develop the technologies that secure our future join us this sounds like how they get you this is the end yeah make a cool video and I'm in yeah I would I would music I'm opening it after this they offer me a tiny little plot to do a podcast, interview them about their work. Right. Look at Discovery property. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:31 So this idea is that when AI gets out of the box, as you say, the world's like filled with chaos. Crime is rampant. Yes. It's madness. And then at that point, these guys wall themselves off, use all of their money and defend the West. That seems to be what it's like. Defending is a weird. Defending.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Yeah. It's a weird way of phrasing things. Because you're not saying, you know, we look to establish a beautiful, harmonious community that, you know. No, there is an element, I think, of defense. Yeah, and they're defending them. From an assault. From maybe the... Defend the West.
Starting point is 01:29:15 But it's also like maybe you're defending them from forces that are... Aliens. Well, sure, but or they're domestic. They're Americans. Right. It could also be, you know... Transcendant. Transcendant
Starting point is 01:29:28 There it is Okay Inspired by the wisdom Of great civilizations We believe that true sovereignty Is achieved through alignment With the transcendent You can't just say that
Starting point is 01:29:40 This is gonna all end To just be like a line of skin care products At the end Like it's just gonna be like Brian Johnson's vitamins Yeah it's just Brian Johnson's vitamins That's a guy who's trying to stay alive forever The Praxian wildlife is driven by
Starting point is 01:29:54 A Vital Energy that seeks transcendence through heroic action and contemplation. Our mission is to channel this drive into a cohesive way of life forged by social structures and institutions that guide our people toward their destiny. You just said nothing. It's nothing. And so what it is is opting out. There's America.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Go to the top. That looks like a mushroom. Yeah. That's a mushroom cap. Are you guys doing shrooms? Because now I'm in. Well, they're certainly doing shrooms. Well, now I'm in.
Starting point is 01:30:23 They're certainly doing shrooms. I want to go here. I don't think I have enough money. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying this is kind of, and they're not going to be the only ones. I need to up my game. They're not going to be the only ones. I need to get in on this club because I want to defend freedom or whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:34 The West. I want to defend the rest. Continue to join their Discord. They have a Discord server. Yeah. Our primary centers. Join the nation, take the pledge and build the future of the West. Our work primarily centers around developing culture and institutions that promote the practicing way of life.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Boy, this is creepy. Because increase our economic. Teal was a big, he funded this part of the funding. fun. That makes sense. Sure. If you're going to, you know. If you're the Antichrist, you want to at least have a little bit of a say of what goes on here.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Could you imagine if they really do know something and like the Antichrist is a real thing? Like imagine if like you get to the like the highest levels of these meetings and they say, look, all this biblical stuff is actually based on reality. Yeah. And there's something coming and it will be like revelations in the Bible. There's going to be something that goes down. It could very possibly happen. It is interesting to think about the Antichrist and then this all-powerful dark figure, again, not more powerful than God, but like a problem, like a real problem. A real problem.
Starting point is 01:31:36 And then that person has to have lunch with J.D. Vance. That's like an odd. Well, if human beings, you don't picture that. If you think about religion as being something that serves human beings, and God wants human beings. What would be the Antichrist? What would be AI, wouldn't it be? Well, I think that's, I think when you get into living forever. and playing God and doing all this stuff,
Starting point is 01:31:57 you get into a very dark area of human beings having the capacity of God. All these tech people who've now become super Christian, which seems to be a front because they know how to sell what they're trying to do to America that way. How many of them are becoming super Christian? A lot of them are.
Starting point is 01:32:12 A lot of them are. Yeah, of course. How does he reconcile that with the gay stuff? I don't know how anyone reconciles anything with anything. But like he's, I think he's, I don't know, but they've realized they have to sell the AI stuff and the eventual augmenting of the biology, all of that to Americans. And there'll probably be a lot of the objections to that will probably be religious or rooted in religion. People going, I don't want to be a, but if you can somehow launder it and go, no, no, no, God likes and wants you to have the autonomous.
Starting point is 01:32:54 drown. You have to position yourself. Interesting. I don't know. I'm sure he can reconcile the gay stuff with the way. There's tons of gay Christians. I'm sure he's a very smart guy. He'll be able to figure it out. That's an interesting strategy. Well, that's the strategy. That does make sense, though, as a strategy. Of course. That's how you would approach things. You would have to. Yeah. You would have to. You'd have to go out and say, the good news is God wants you to have all of these things which isn't Christianity it's some other
Starting point is 01:33:28 they've concocted something else if you know if you're augmenting your biology to live forever or to live a lot longer and you are seeding clouds and doing all of this stuff you know then you are
Starting point is 01:33:43 playing God yeah you are doing it I'm and there's an argument that science is you should do some of these things whatever you can make that argument but that's not inherently a a Christian argument right yeah well I think the real argument is it it's not just that you can do these things but it's an imperative and the reason being is that we're in competition with China what did you say you said you were blown away by something oh this Praxian shit well this is yeah I had no idea
Starting point is 01:34:15 that this was even a thing well we've never how we've never discussed this before have we ever but this was a big thing during the pandemic I don't know that the The reality of any of it. Here's what I think, here's what it is emblematic of. The rich opted out of America a while ago, the super rich, meaning like they let many American cities crumble. They allowed the infrastructure of the country to rot. They carved out places within the country that they were going to, you know, secure.
Starting point is 01:34:50 and those places are safe and those places are beautiful and those places have pretty good economies and they let the rest of it, you know, the Rust Belt and the Sun Belt, you know, a lot of the areas that would de-industrialized, they let a lot of that go. What's the next culmination of that? The next culmination of that, they're already kind of in a separate country. So, this is just the leveling up of that with tech, crypto, you're off the dollar system, you're in your own thing, or you're doing a digital currency system, you know, that seems to be the next phase. Interesting. Well, I think the next phase is allow the same thing that happened to Detroit to happen to the entire country.
Starting point is 01:35:44 That seems to be correct, yes. Yeah, because that seems like there's an inevitability of automation and of the jobs that AI is going to take away except for venture capitalism. Mark Andreessen's fine. But everybody, we're fucked. They're going to have AI comedians. We'll have to interview Mark Andreessen every day. Every day. Which I've tried.
Starting point is 01:36:06 He doesn't come on your show? He wouldn't know. But he's a nice guy. Listen, here's a thing. Interesting. He's been on my show a few times. You have the bigger show. You have a bigger show, actually, statistically.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Oh, interesting. You have a big show, though. It's a very big show. And we would treat, thank you very much. And thank Mark Marin for building it with me. And being so generous with his fan base with me. But the, yeah, it seems like they're going to, it seems like they're going to, you know, say America was fun. We had a good run.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Yeah. But it seems inevitable. that the standard of living is going to fall. Now, a lot of people, like, in Elon, who's a smart guy, and I don't agree with him on everything, but he says things like, it's going to be good. And the standard of livings are going to rise with AI. I hope that's the case,
Starting point is 01:36:59 but there's going to be a lot of people at work. And I don't quite know how people's standard of living is going to increase. I guess we're going to have some UBI that's enough or whatever, but it just feels to me like we're heading towards something that has the potential. Maybe it won't be. I'm not going to be a doomsdayer.
Starting point is 01:37:23 It has the potential to be incredibly disruptive. It will be incredibly disrupted. Now, for the good or the bad, I don't know. But it does seem like people are preparing for the inevitability of a large war. France just said, get hospitals ready for war by 2026. France just said that. French just said that. What?
Starting point is 01:37:44 He came out. McCrone just came out and said, get the hospitals ready for 2026, because that's when Brigitte's transitioning back to a man. But also have... France orders hospital to be ready for war in six months' time. What is this goon still doing, this Olensky goon? What a goon this person is? The directive revealed in a letter to regional health agencies anticipates 10,000 to 50,000 men in hospital over a period.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Maybe this is why they let everybody into the country. Right. Health minister, Catherine Vautrin, is that it? Vartrin? Yeah. Confirmed the preparations saying that they're a normal part of anticipating crises in the current international context. Again, what the fuck are you saying? The letter dated 18 July suggests that France could serve.
Starting point is 01:38:39 as a rear base for a large-scale conflict and mentioned setting up medical centers near transport hubs. Okay. Follows the distribution of a survival manual to French households and President Emmanuel Macron's plan to double France's defense spending by 2027. How did that guy get to be the head of France? Like, at this point, can he win an election? No, probably not.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Now everybody knows that he's married to a man who not only a man, but a man who smacks him in the face. Allegedly. I saw the video. Well, the alleged, the alleged man. The alleged man. Yeah. Well, whatever, that woman smacked him in the face. For sure.
Starting point is 01:39:21 He's getting abused. She manhandled him. Yeah, man handled him. Behind closed doors. That's right. She man spreads. You ever see her man spread? She sits?
Starting point is 01:39:28 She mansplanes. I don't know any women that sit down like that. There's something off there. She met. Real. He was 40. She was 15 or something. He was a kid in school.
Starting point is 01:39:36 There's something really off. That alone. There's something very strange, very sinister, very bad. They met when he was 14. And she was 38 or something? Something like that. Very bad. When she was 40, I'll notice I say she.
Starting point is 01:39:50 I'm a good boy. Right. I'm following the rules. That's right. Well, there's lawsuits, which I mentioned in. Well, it was interesting watching Jake Tapper do that about the fucking shooter. The Catholic school shooter, like correcting the pronouns. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Whoa. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? It's bizarre. Bizarro land we're in right now. But anyway, what is going on in France? Like that that guy is your fucking leader.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Like, that's so weird. And when I see things like that, it's terrifying because is that possible they could pull that off in America? When you go, well, they almost did with Kamala Harris. Well, I think they have, by the way, they have before with lots of people. Yeah. And you don't know the personal lives of any of these people. You know what's really fun? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:37 When someone is in that whole race and running for president or vice president, and then the race is over and they realize that person was a liability. So they cut them off. And you never hear from it. And then that person goes wacky like Tim Wals. That's right. You see where he had a fuck Trump shirt on? Yeah. And he's dancing and going down an elevator.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Have you seen this video? I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. Please, Jamie. Find that video. Well, Tim Walsh is weird. But this is weird. That was a big mistake.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Oh, a huge mistake. They should have picked Josh Shapiro from the governor of Pennsylvania. I think they're worried about the Jewish thing. Well, of course. It's a big swing state and it would have been better. Okay. Go full screen on us. Is that really this, him?
Starting point is 01:41:21 No, it's not real. Yes, it is. No, no, no, it's real. I can tell it's not real. I love it. It's real. It's got to be real. It has to be real.
Starting point is 01:41:32 It has to be real. Jamie, come on, man. Jamie's compromised. Look at him dancing. That is so real, Jamie. By the way, if this was real, he might have won. It's probably a real person. It might not be Tim Walts.
Starting point is 01:41:41 The fuck Trump is AI generated. No, he slaps his ass. I mean, that is hilarious. Definitely him. This is all 100% real, Jamie. You're a plant by the government. Jamie's compromised, and I'm worried about Jamie, and I'm worried about GROC. Does it say that it's AI?
Starting point is 01:41:55 I mean, yes. You say it's AI. No, the video I played on top says it's AI generated. Rep Riley Moore fell for an AI-generated video of Minnesota. I fell for it, too. And you know why I fell for it? Yeah. Because I believe that he's capable of doing something.
Starting point is 01:42:10 But that's his essence. He's so weird. He's a weird guy. He's in the CCP. He's controlled by communist China, most likely. Went over there a ton of times. Well, he thinks it's a good place. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:42:23 I don't think he's controlled meaning like whatever they're like nodes on his head. But like I'm saying like he thinks that's a better way of life. Well, he thinks government control over your life is a better way of life. And if you wanted to find a guy that maybe you could have some shit on to put into office, that guy... Well, he's a creep. He's a weird... He's a creepy guy and nobody knows exactly what his qualifications were to be the vice president of the United States. That was all left out.
Starting point is 01:42:54 No one has any clue. We did a really good job with defunding the police. Well, you know, his psychopath wife sat there and was like, when we smelled the burning tires from the riots, It was a real moment. We just took it in. The people that live in that region of the country, many of them are sick. They don't get enough sunlight. It's very cold.
Starting point is 01:43:13 They're incredibly radical. They live around all white people, and yet they're the most concerned with racism. And, you know, they almost elected a Somali mayor there or governor or something, but they just pulled his support away. Yeah, what happened with that? Why did they pull his support away? They said that there was something wrong with the convention, that they were like people's votes weren't counted, but it seems like the Democrats realized, oh,
Starting point is 01:43:38 we're going to import all these people that we think they're going to vote for us. They're actually going to vote for themselves and get rid of us. So it's like, oh, we'll import all these people. They'll vote for us. And then they're like, wait a minute, fuck you. We'll just run one of our people.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Why do we need to elect you? We can just elect this guy. And it's like the guy from Captain Phillips. It's the guy. Yeah. I'm the partner guy. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure he's lovely.
Starting point is 01:44:06 And I'm not saying he shouldn't run into America. I'm not saying a pirate shouldn't be the mayor of an great American city. That fucking state is not recovered from Prince dying. No, no. They fell off. Yeah. And I think. Which, by the, by the, died of fentanyl.
Starting point is 01:44:21 That's right. The small boat crisis. Really? Yeah. Fent. Yeah. Hip issues. Oh.
Starting point is 01:44:27 So in pain, got a hold of the wrong pills. The patch. So here's the thing. No, it's not. that the patch won't kill you because the patches actually goes through the dermis it actually regulates the dose Prince Rogers Nelson official cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl so what happens is and what happened with Tom Petty too is these guys their their taste their appetite far exceeds the prescription and they're in pain all the time and so they get pills from
Starting point is 01:44:59 other people so with Tom Petty I think he got it from a roadie He wound up dying. I don't know where Prince got his from, but what happens is, you know, you're getting a prescription from your doctor and maybe he only gives you, you know, three pills a day and you really want ten. And then you start. Wasn't it like, what the fuck is his name, Rush Limbaugh? Wasn't he taking like... Yeah, 16 a day, OxyCon. I think it was higher than that.
Starting point is 01:45:22 It might have been. It might have been. I think it was something nuts. It was nuts. Yeah. Yeah, and he was doing broadcasting every day. Well, that's what made him go deaf, apparently. Alex Jones explained it to me.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Wow. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Prince had thought he was taking the prescription drug Vicodin when he in fact taking a counterfeit Vicodin pill laced with potentially deadly fentanyl. Yeah. So same thing.
Starting point is 01:45:45 So you think you're getting these pills that you're addicted to. Yeah. Prince apparently had hip problems. Sure. From all the dancing. Of course. You know, like, I know a lot of martial artists have fake hips. So you get in pain and the pain is debilitating and you can't tolerate it.
Starting point is 01:46:01 tolerate it. And so like, hey, take a pill. And then next thing, you know, you're fucked. Right. And then you're on that train and you need a, you need something. And you got a viking for me. You got a, oh, like you're right. And then you're foaming at the mouth and dead in a hotel floor. That really sucks. And that's, that's, that is terrible. It's fucking horrible. And by the way, all that shit would have been avoided if there was legal drugs. Well, the other, yes. But I also think like a lot of these antidepressants and stuff, a lot of those things. And there's people that obviously need them. or help by them, and that's great. But, like, the pharmaceutical industry is so powerful and so well-funded. And, you know, it's clear that, you know, one of the ways you're going to try to control the population once people don't have jobs or a purpose is by getting them all on a, on a, you know, bevy of medications. Get them dosed up to the point where they just get real dull.
Starting point is 01:46:54 I think they're going to dose people up. Real flat. We dose them up. Nothing upsets you. And then you can just take your government stipend and you're going to be fun. And you'll have you'll have less money, but you'll have all the objects that you need. You'll have all the things you long. Because the government will send you free TVs because the TVs will be going to be made by robots.
Starting point is 01:47:11 They'll cost no money. You can't react. Like if you're sitting on a beach and then a small migrant boat shows up and then they'll just start running. You just look at it and kind of nod and go, huh. Well, then someone will turn. Who else going to clean your toilet? That's right. You need that.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Right. Right. Who's going to clean your toilet? Who's going to clean your toilet? Who's going to drink your piss, Mr. Trump? It's going to be really interesting to see if Farage wins in the U.K., if the Reform Party wins, you know. When is that coming up? I don't know exactly when.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Someone has to reverse course, and it might be too late, because the amount of change that they've had over the past few years is staggering. You know, the Graham Linehan arrest, I think, woke a lot of people up today. The fact that you could see the tweets that they arrested him for, the fact that they're arresting people for saying I love bacon. Like all that shit is insane. The only way you can make these changes to a society as swiftly as they are is by stifling dissent and punishing it and criminalizing it.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Yes. There's absolutely no way to completely remake a society in the span of like 36 months. You know? Like you can't do that without shutting everybody up. You shut everybody up and you import the most violent migrants. minority in their own country. Nobody is voting to lose economic and cultural ground in
Starting point is 01:48:36 their own country. People certainly think immigrants can benefit a country and make a country better. And that's why historically we've had immigration. But nobody is voting for massive, large scale immigration that completely destabilizes an existing economy. And the majority of it is Muslim. It's Muslim immigration. Which is we are. Like how you think about all the Latin American countries, all the different countries, like, why is this the one? Well, because it's the one you can't criticize. It's the one you cannot say you don't want. It's the one that is not going to be able.
Starting point is 01:49:15 There are real conditions in the world that create refugees. Climate is one of them. De-stabilizing wars are another one? So if you're all over the world destabilizing countries with, you know, war and covert operations and all of this stuff and enriching a small circle. of people and all those refugees need a place to stay, you've got to take them in and you've got to tell your people to shut the fuck up. And that's what's been going on. Progressives, when I grew up, used to care deeply about their fellow citizens having health care, a place to live, be able to send their kids to college, retire, whatever. All of the energy now, for example, in the New York mayor
Starting point is 01:49:51 is about whether Jewish people feel safe with the Muslim mayor and whether the Muslim mayor feels that illegal immigrants are being treated nicely enough. They don't care all about citizens of this country. They don't care about black people who are genuinely owed a debt from the things that Americans have done, bringing them to the country as slaves, preventing them from acquiring wealth,
Starting point is 01:50:14 Jim Crow, redlining, all that. That is no longer an issue. They don't talk about elderly people. They don't talk about social security. They don't talk about that. All of the energy that was, you know, and it's happened right around Occupy Wall Street, right around Occupy Wall Street, and people started to realize
Starting point is 01:50:31 that it was a little bit of a scam the way the country was being run. You had people start to design a Democratic Party around identity politics. And then the Republican Party was always kind of designed around this idea that like, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:47 you had maximum freedom to start your own hedge fund. Shut up. Stop complaining. Whatever. And populism was kind of killed in America. Unions were killed. Workers, were killed and now all this progressive energy that used to get funneled into like people having health care is now specifically for non-citizens yeah weird yeah it's extraordinary amounts of money extraordinary amounts of money and and it's not about it's not about America or the
Starting point is 01:51:20 future of a New York City the most economically it's the you know it's the top sitting in the world economically, and the focus is in not about Americans, it's about undocumented people, and if Jews and Muslims are going to play nice. Weird. It's odd. Real weird. It's strange to me. I'm not saying those are completely unimportant issues, but they completely dominate the
Starting point is 01:51:50 conversation to a level that's absurd. He's also, here's another absurd thing. He's also running on this promise of setting up a trend. gender hub where you can go and get fixed up there. Yeah. Where they're going to pay for people? In the park? No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:52:05 This is a tent? There's a tent you go in there. It's like fucking one of those dexter tents. He's going to do it in the Friends fountain that they all jumped in at the beginning of friends. Yeah, he's going to do it. No, I mean, we don't need a transgender hub. Not to hurt anybody's feelings. People should be able, I think adults should be able to do whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:52:26 The friend's theme is playing in my head right now. It is, yeah. In the fountain. Yeah. We don't need a transgender hub. We don't need a sanctuary city. I don't think we all, we don't, and me and you've said this, you don't need ice rates ripping families apart at graduation either. No.
Starting point is 01:52:41 But you need an enforcement of law. You need to build a middle class. You need to make things affordable. They run California on $8 trillion worth of tech money in northern California. They run New York on a lot of. lot of fucking finance money and these people bring in a class of people that cannot understand them so culturally it's nice when the maid can't understand you it's nice it's nice when she really doesn't know what you're saying um and i'm not saying that you get obviously get rid of every immigrant
Starting point is 01:53:17 but this whole idea that the american working class if they are not participating in their own destruction they are somehow a racist or they're xenophobic yeah is psychotic it is psychotic it's it's weird it's just weird that people accept it and it's also weird that it's attached to being a kind compassionate person that's on the left yeah and you know and also just complete lack of any like anybody who gets arrested has no cash bail yeah right so there's there's no punishment for committing crimes. It's very strange. Like, it is all set. Like, if you wanted to be the person, if you want to be the person that's kind of like try to completely destabilize a country, you would do it exactly that way. I'm not saying that that's why they're doing it,
Starting point is 01:54:10 but it just feels very strange that they've gotten everybody to kind of go along with all this. Well, it seems to be preparing to run a country without people. It seems very much, if I'm a nut and conspiracy nut, which I am, and I'm wondering how you begin to see, sever ties with people. First, you're going to replace the people in your own country with people from another country that you can pay a lot less money to who you have no cultural ties with, who you don't even speak the same language. And then eventually you're going to discard those people for robots.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Interesting. And machines. Well, I think you want to set up more internal conflict. Like if people figure out that this white versus black struggle in America, is kind of bullshit, right? And then the racism that people think exists is kind of accentuated by social media and then they figure out that that racism
Starting point is 01:55:06 that exists is accentuated by bots so that they're pitting us against each other when most people are cool, the vast majority. And then also there's the gay straight thing and there's this weird push recently to try to repeal gay marriage. It's like, who's pushing that? Well, that seems like one of those fake things that they do to keep each other out of each other's throats.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Well, what's the ultimate one? The ultimate one is Sharia law, right? The ultimate one is bring in as many Muslims as you can. Let them gather up steam. Let them build up an alliance. Let a bunch of like really fucking stupid, wacky leftists go along with this. And then you pray. Not knowing that that religion is counter to everything you stand for.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Everything you stand for as far as. Women's rights, gay rights, like, all across, religious freedom. I think you're right and I think you're 100% right. And I think the funny thing about a lot of the big, you know, super wealthy people is they don't care if there's large swaths of Michigan under Sharia law. They wouldn't care. No. They're really interested in 12 zip codes that they're going to gate off. It's obvious.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Like, they're interested. They're all over the world. They have homes everywhere. Yeah. And, you know, I don't think they care. I mean, if they cared long-term about America, wouldn't our cities look better? Yeah. Wouldn't our cities look better?
Starting point is 01:56:38 Wouldn't we have taken more care to have thriving cities? It wouldn't take that much more money. No. So to me, I start thinking about, like, it feels like they've given up. I don't even know if they've given up. I think it's a strategy. Yeah. I think there's a strategy.
Starting point is 01:56:55 You need a bunch of discontent. You need a bunch of people that are upset. You need a bunch of people that are constantly worried about their bills. Because when you're worried about your bills, you're not worried about anything else. Right. You need a bunch of people that are sick. So you need to deny them health care. That's right.
Starting point is 01:57:08 You need to make sure that they're not getting paid. Right. The claims are not getting accepted. And then make sure that you've got constant struggle in terms of like what you're allowed to say, what you're not allowed to say. That's right. And that's where we come in. People need to be paranoid and scared. That's what we come in, because we were an unexpected thing.
Starting point is 01:57:29 I think podcasters and social media in general, but they can kind of subvert social media with bots. It can't really do that with podcasters because you know that they're really talking or they're not. You know, you can do AI stuff like the Tim Walls thing. Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah. I think they were not prepared for this level of pushback. No. That the citizens are giving on things like Epstein, on things like, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Right. Right. And they're unprepared for how to deal with it. Epstein accusers put pressure on Congress to release the files. This happened about an hour ago. They're on Capitol Hill giving a two-hour press conference, a bunch of accusers, I think, for the first time publicly. Oh, interesting. That they're going to compile a list since they know the names themselves.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Interesting. I was on, whoa. By the way, I was on. Taylor Green's been heroic on this. Look at this, look at this quote. I was only 14 years old when I met Jeffrey.
Starting point is 01:58:30 One of nine female Epstein accusers who appealed at a news conference on Capitol Hill. It was the summer of high school. I was working three jobs to try to support my mom. Of course, those are the type of people you grab, right?
Starting point is 01:58:43 When a friend of mine in the neighborhood told me I could make $300 to give another guy a massage. Wow. It went from a dream job to the worst night. People need to go to jail. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:58:55 I mean, this is the reality. People need to go to jail. Holy fuck. Okay, hold on. Another Epstein accuser, Annie Farmer, alleged she was 16 in 1996 when she was flown to New Mexico to spend a weekend with Epstein, 16. Yeah. And Maxwell and was assaulted.
Starting point is 01:59:15 Her sister, Maria, was also assaulted there. Farmer said, and sensitive photos of the sisters were stolen by Epstein. the incident was reported to authorities. Wow. What a fucking psycho that guy was. 14. Well, I think it's going to come out. I think it's going to come out.
Starting point is 01:59:36 I think he's going to come out that he was a, not only obviously well known that he was a notorious pedophile, evil guy, but also that he was working for Israel. I mean, I think this is going to come out. and so this is what I've been he's what I think but I also believe is somewhat well known and not a huge secret isn't it it's the whole thing is very strange that you have a pedophile yeah who's also connected to all these insanely wealthy and powerful people yeah and then does something where he gets all these people together for parties yeah and And then supposedly has all of this information and all this. And then you have Pam Bondi saying there's thousands of hours of film. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:31 But then you have Cash Patel saying, no, there's nothing. There's nothing and he killed himself. We are absolutely 100% going to find some very uncomfortable things out about his relationship with Israel. I mean, this is not going to be a piece of paper that says, hey, I'm working, but there's going to be enough circumstantial evidence that's going to connect him, not only to our own government, which I imagine that the CIA was involved as well, but I think it's going to connect him. So, these are there files that they're holding up for everybody? The guy with the cowboy hat's got to go. Who's that guy? I don't know, but I think this is like a fake.
Starting point is 02:01:15 That's ridiculous, sir. These are old files too And they did this That fucking cowboy hat's ridiculous Just holding up the thing With it wearing a cowboy hat We're here for American Justice The Epstein Files
Starting point is 02:01:26 Phase 1 There's more They're listen There's a reason That none of this has come to light And there's a reason that They're dragging their feet And releasing this
Starting point is 02:01:40 Yeah because the amount of people That are powerful There's so many people Incnered by this But also the other things thing is like, I think it is going to be an uncomfortable, and more than uncomfortable perhaps with if it comes out that our ally, very close ally of America, was having, was, you know, was having this happen.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Obviously, it's not these really people, it's not even the Israeli government per se, but it's a, it's a group in whatever you want to call it, these really deep state or their intelligence community that was using Jeffrey Epstein as an access agent to get, access to people and leverage on people. Do you think that he was a pedophile to begin with? Yes. This is our guy because he's fucked up. Absolutely. And then they have him
Starting point is 02:02:26 run things. But how do you get a pedophile that can keep his shit together? You find one that's good. Well, he couldn't. Obviously. He couldn't keep his shit together. But you know, the 90s were a different time. There's no camera phones. That's true. There's no internet. That's true. You can intimidate reporters. You can intimidate DAs. Right. Or you can just whack people. This is a vice article from
Starting point is 02:02:45 2017 about the D.C. Madam I found earlier, and I thought this was interesting. They tried to bring the info out later after she had died already. Uh-huh. And her attorney said the records could impact the presidential election. What? What? The Supreme Court denied the applications. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. They tried the FOIA, the FBI, IRS, and the Postal Inspection Service since they were involved, too, because it was a mail thing. She was in Northern California, and they, like, barely sent any info. And so this was in 2000, what? 17.
Starting point is 02:03:18 Wow. I think that's when the article was. There's no presidential election. Supposedly, Jeffrey Epstein said to his brother or to someone, if people knew what I knew, both candidates in the presidential election would have to step down. That's a quote. Jamie can find that. Wow.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Also, wasn't he on the phone with his mother, in quotes, before he died? Who? Epstein in prison. What? They said he was on the phone with his mother for like an hour and a half. How's he got on the phone while he's inside the jail? His mother's dead too. Was the thing real about the trust of all the money?
Starting point is 02:03:54 Wait, wait, wait, what are you saying? His mother was already dead? Yeah. Before that. Yeah. So who's saying that he was on the phone with his mother? So maybe he was on the phone with someone else? There's a lot of misinformation that gets attached to true stories to make the stories goofy.
Starting point is 02:04:09 This is the whole Comet pizza thing. Disinfo. Yeah, this is the piece of thing. Something's weird with that, though. Oh, fuck, yeah, something to wear with that. I'll send you a documentary. I saw that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:19 What? The documentary, right? Yeah. Just the absolute facts. This is just a summary from AI, but. Unmonitored phone call to a girlfriend, though he told prison staff that he was calling his mother who had been dead for 15 years. Key details from the report include the call was a violation of policy on the evening.
Starting point is 02:04:40 Excused himself from a meeting with his lawyers to make a call. You could just make a call in prison? I thought you have to wait in line for the phone. The office of the Inspector General found that a supervisor at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York allowed Epstein to make an unmonitored call, which was a violation of the Bureau of Prisons policy. Deception was successful to get permission for the unmonitored call. Epstein told prison staff that he wanted to call his mother who had died in 2004. Instead, he called a girlfriend. The call was not properly logged or recorded.
Starting point is 02:05:11 How convenient. Nice. Call's content is unknown. Call was unmonitored and unrecorded. Investigators could not determine its content. Oh, why would you determine the content of a guy who's involved the most high-profile investigation? They had to get rid of him. There was no way to keep him around.
Starting point is 02:05:29 And if he is still alive somehow, I don't know where he is, obviously, but there's a possibility he's at Wexner's compound. And then there's a fucking guy that he was sharing a cell with. That guy. Creepy guy. Gigantic, muscular guy who killed a bunch of people. He could have killed him. They might have killed him. They might have killed them.
Starting point is 02:05:50 But there are tapes, I think, that are missing a minute. They're missing time. Oh, they found the new minute today. Did you see that? The missing minute they conveniently found it today. Did you hear about that, Jamie? You didn't hear? I'll send it to you.
Starting point is 02:06:04 The missing minute. Yeah, they found it. They know where it is now. So no worry. Now it's good. I had heard that they knew where it was the whole time. They just didn't want to. Here I got it up, Bondi.
Starting point is 02:06:13 You got it? They knew where it was the whole time. They just didn't want to tell you. Release of missing minute of Epstein video contradicts Bondi's camera stop recording. Oh, no. Contradicts Bondi's claim. Video taken outside Epstein's cell on night he died as part of new materials released by the House Oversight Committee. Why do you have that new minute set aside?
Starting point is 02:06:37 What's that? It's a new minute. It's Kill Tony. You've got to do a new minute. It's Epstein's new minute. Kill Jeffrey. This thing is still alive. This story came out this week, too.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Did you see this? Old master painted, looted by Nazis, spotted in Argentine property listing. They found a painting that was stolen and no one had seen it for 200 years or so. Oh, and they found it. The Nazis took it. It was found in a, like on a Zillow post. What? Wow.
Starting point is 02:07:05 I'll double check. That's crazy. There's the website of a real estate agent. Well, that's Argentina. That's the whole thing. It's the whole thing. The Argentina, literally, there's towns in Argentina that have Octoberfest where everybody speaks German. All the Nazis went to Argentina.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Yeah, there's photos of, you know, like, this is Grampa in his SS fucking uniforms on the wall. Yeah, Tim Kennedy did that show, Finding Hitler. Right. Where they went down there and did. Do you think he went, survived? Yeah. Hitler? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Yeah. And went to Argentina. I think it's very possible that that's the case. I don't know if it's true. but I've never seen any photos of his dead. Of course. Dead body. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:07:45 But there is a conspiracy that he went to Argentina, right? A big one, yeah. And didn't someone just confirm that recently? It was in some file. Someone said he lived and had a bunch of children and was actually a lovely man. That's what they're saying. I didn't, I've never met him. This is the latest whitewashing of what Hitler is.
Starting point is 02:08:08 This is the problem with history. is that there's so much lies that even when things right everyone goes crazy even about a monster you go about maybe it wasn't so bad well of course and I think that like this is part of the reason that it's so difficult because we were lied to so much now and we're so propagandized now that people look back and go what else is propaganda but that can lead you to some dark and bad places yes and like like Hitler's good and that can be weaponized of course yeah that's also the part of the problem you got to constantly be um vigilant that you're your own consuming of information. You've got to run everything through a filter. What do you got about? I found an update on that painting. It was for sale notice revealed that it was Frederick Kydigan, which is a financial advisor to Adolf Hitler. He was placed in charge of moving Nazi plunder to South America.
Starting point is 02:08:59 And shortly after the article was published, the painting disappeared. Just such a funny idea of Hitler having a financial advisor. But of course he would. Where do I invest the Jew? Of course he would. He arrested the son-in-law. Arrest daughter, son-in-law of Hitler's financial advisor over looted painting. How would they know?
Starting point is 02:09:18 But they failed. I think it might have been their house. Failed, but how would they know where the painting came from? Portrait of a lady, which has been missing since the for sale, notice revealed it was a Nazi fugitive. Frederick Cotagan's home. Wow. Argentina. So what is the theory about Hitler going to Argentina?
Starting point is 02:09:40 Because someone said that. And it was supposedly at least semi-credible that there might be some truth to the idea that Hitler went to Argentina and escaped. And the idea of him dying in the bunker was just bullshit. No, it's very possible. And you live there supposedly and had children and grandchildren. That's what I read recently. Yeah, I read it recently too. But I don't know if that's true either.
Starting point is 02:10:03 But here's the thing. But what is true is Nazis went to Argentina to 100%. Yeah. 100% that's true and Brazil as well but then also didn't they hunt them didn't like the Israelis hunt them oh yeah I'm so fucking literally yeah it's wild they caught a bunch of them they got a bunch of them yeah because a lot of these idiots you know they're in their daughter's Facebook posts right in the background they're running through facial recognition software and they're like oh look at that that's Adolf that's care hard let's yeah look at them go get them yeah they found these guys they prosecuted when they're in their 90s and shit yeah yeah yeah it's wild I was a CIA agent there's great Growing proof, Hitler faked his death, and I think I know where he was hiding. Where was it? Was it Austin? See, but you say he's a CIA agent.
Starting point is 02:10:46 I'm like, are you bullshit? Did you sell drugs in L.A.? Right. Like, you know what you? Right, right. Right. Who are you? Do you really know?
Starting point is 02:10:54 Yeah. Do you really know? Are you a CIA agent currently? If Hitler was alive today, he'd be too old. So he has to be dead. Oh, he's dead. He's definitely dead. But the thing is like, did he really go to Argentina and how did no one take a picture of him there?
Starting point is 02:11:08 I guess, you know, there's probably... Maybe he just shaves the mustache, and he's like Clark can't... You always bring up this great point about the Pacific Northwest. You could kind of go up there and really disappear in the thicket of the forest, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, supposedly there's places... You need food. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:24 You need food and resources if you don't know how to hunt. And even if you do know how to hunt, you need to refrigerate things, so you need a power source. It's not easy. That's the densest woods in America is Pacific Northwest. Oh, it's crazy up there. Yeah. When Duncan and I went looking for Bigfoot, because we did a show, we went up there. Looking for Hitler.
Starting point is 02:11:46 It's basically unfuckable white guys out camping. That was a joke. Here's what you don't find when you go looking for Bigfoot. Right. Black people. Right. You're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are black people looking for Bigfoot. It's unfuckable white guys out camping.
Starting point is 02:11:59 And, you know, they're having fun and they're looking at like shadows. Yeah. I think that's him. Look at the outline of the body. Right. They're all dorks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course.
Starting point is 02:12:07 But the thing is, bears occasionally walk on two legs. And if you see one in the Pacific Northwest, what you're looking at is like, the trees are like this. It's like a, the way I describe it always is like a box of Q-tips. Yeah. They were so densely stacked in there. Right. You can't see 15 yards. You can't see any.
Starting point is 02:12:27 It's crazy how dense it is out there. But if you're going to build a house out there and survive out there, you're going to have to have a path. You're going to have to be able to chop down wood and build a house or we have to bring in other materials. Yeah. How are you going to get water pipes so then you don't have running water? If you don't have pipes, okay, what do you, you shitting in an outhouse? Right. How are the winters out there tough?
Starting point is 02:12:51 Yeah. They're not as tough as the East Coast. Not bad. No. It means it might snow a little, but like Mount Rainier up there. It's not that bad. You could live. It's just wet.
Starting point is 02:13:02 It just gets real wet. That's supposedly the one that's real creepy. Yeah? People disappear. It's supposedly like one of those ancient portals of whatever. Here it is. Here's Hitler. That the government in Argentina, or Argentina.
Starting point is 02:13:20 Well, you know how it's legit? Because they put a black line through secret. That's right. This is a CIA document. Hitler hideout in Argentina. So this is, what does it say at the top there? It says approve for release 2020, September or excuse me, July. So they were saying that the CIA was searching for Hitler in Argentina up to 10 years after he was known to have been dead.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Wow. But even this says, like, they have a source and they don't know if it's true or even reliable. But, you know, they have to look into it, I suppose. Interesting. Well, you know, if you send fucking CIA down to Argentina, the odds of them not getting busted. Like, people are going to know immediately these dorks come up and we're fucking wearing eyes odd shirts. Yeah, and so what's the thing? They just couldn't find him?
Starting point is 02:14:05 Yeah Or I mean What's this These are some of the files that came out With a man who claimed to be Hitler On a beach in Columbia Kind of look like Hitler Yeah he's
Starting point is 02:14:17 And he's got his legs crossed like Gavin Newsom Why would he claim to be hit Like why would he say I'm Hitler? I don't know Go back to that photo again People just want attention Yeah there's a lot of people that want attention People just want attention
Starting point is 02:14:31 That is the worst photo I've ever seen in my life I could draw a better photo than that if you gave me 20 minutes right I mean I can have AI update it see what it yeah do that do that fuck yeah what a wonderful time we live in let's see if it really is Hitler tell AI to update this photo and then tell it to give them the Sharon Osborne how big is Argentina it's pretty big okay so you could get lost it's very wooded yeah and a lot of cattle ranches small towns and so yeah it's uh they're famous for for their beef.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Right. It's amazing. Yeah, they're really good at cooking steak. So you could conceivably, if you're Hitler, be not, you could live there and not be. Perhaps. Yeah. The thing is that you're an old man and old men need medical resources. You need running water.
Starting point is 02:15:22 You know, the odds of you existing in the forest, like people have this romantic idea of being like a subsistence hunter. Yeah. Where are you going to get all your bullets? Right. You know, it's, it ain't that simple, man. Are you going to make your own arrows? Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:15:38 You're not going to kill anything with those things. Try your fucking dirty mouth. Right. Where are you getting your broadheads? It's not going to happen. It's too hard to hunt. It's too hard. Hunting is hard.
Starting point is 02:15:47 No, you need the amenities. Yeah, you need food. Of course. You need someone to bring in grain. Of course. You need rice and you need beans and you need stuff for substance. You need to survive. Like the idea that you're just going to live in the woods.
Starting point is 02:16:05 is nonsense. People are fucking crazy. It's crazy. How many bullets do you bring in, man? You know? Not enough. You better have boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes of bullets. This other CIA document says that he moved from Columbia to Argentina in January 1995. 1995. Probably, so 55. But because 10 years had passed since the end of the war, the Allies could no longer prosecute Hitler as a criminal of war. Is that true? What?
Starting point is 02:16:35 Wait a minute, what? That's crazy. Is this the CIA documents? But they look so fake. They look more fake than that photo. Did you run that photo through AI? It's still doing it. Let's see what it says it.
Starting point is 02:16:52 Update it. Creating an image. This might take a moment. Okay. It's like the old days. You weren't around back then. Yeah. And like AOL.
Starting point is 02:17:03 When you get a picture of a naked lady. Yeah, it would take a minute. It'd be real funny if it's really bad. No, we're going to crack the case. Jamie? This one said someone to talking to him. He was once a month speaking to him in Colombia. On his trip.
Starting point is 02:17:19 That's where that picture came from. Wow. What? Okay. So Philip Citrone, former German SS soldier, SS trooper, stated to him confidentially that Adolf Hitler is still alive. Citrone claimed to have contacted Hitler about once a month in Colombia on his trip from, how do you say that? Marcebo, Marcebo to that country as an employee of Royal Dutch Shipping Company in Marcebo. Cotron indicated to, what's that word?
Starting point is 02:17:55 I think that's their contact and that's what they have them classified. A friend that he took a picture with Hitler not too long ago, but did not show the photograph. He also stated that, Hitler left Colombia for Argentina around January of 1955. Satron Compa... Imagine he survived 10 fucking years? That would be so crazy. It's very possible. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:18:18 Wow. I mean, that's kind of Hitler, no? Whoa. People used to really dress back then. Whoa. You know? People really did dress. Okay, if that's a formality.
Starting point is 02:18:32 If that's a real photo, that's crazy. Does anybody else run that through AI? And what is AI doing to achieve that image? It could have, I mean, it just got really good. Yeah, for plausible deniability, I would go, it could think it's Hitler and just found a picture of failure and make it made it Hitler. But the other guy doesn't really look like that. Why is the mustache, like, less defined in the second photo? Like, it looks like shit.
Starting point is 02:18:56 He would be like, this is not how they do my mustache. But he looks very young there, Hitler. Right. Hitler looks great there. Yeah, well, he's getting that Argentine. Yeah. Probably a lot of, you know, Adrienechrome down there too. I mean, this is one of those situations where it's like...
Starting point is 02:19:14 Let me zoom in on the face again? Yeah. I don't even know what kind of chair it would be. It's kind of... It's so strange. I'm not sure if that's really... It's so hard. A.I just did this, but it doesn't have to be real.
Starting point is 02:19:24 Right. We don't know if it's real or not. I would go to assume it's not. If it is real, it's... Hitler looks great. The face looks slightly different than Hitler, though, doesn't it? Hitler, though, doesn't it? I guess so, but I mean, maybe he lost waves.
Starting point is 02:19:37 Maybe just the guy, like, really committing to that mustache, because nobody else would. There's also a chance Hitler was very relaxed in Argentina and kind of Columbia, it's kind of like the South American way of life, the siesta is kind of a large meal in the middle of the day. Yeah, go to a photo. Wow, actually, it does look like him, doesn't it? It looks a lot like Hitler, but like kind of a retired Hitler who's relaxed. Yeah, 10 years later. You know?
Starting point is 02:20:02 But he doesn't look 10 years old. That's the problem that I have with it in 35, so I don't know if that was from 55. That'd be 20 years. Right. He doesn't look 20 years older. So that speech from 35, up in the left corner? Yeah. Isn't it amazing he stuck with that stupid mustache?
Starting point is 02:20:20 Like, why do you like that stupid mustache? You know, it's his calling card. It was his thing. You know, some people just, they get a thing and it's, you know. Oh, do you know why they went with that mustache? No. Because the gas masks. Oh.
Starting point is 02:20:32 So if you want to have a seal. Over your face. So the Nazis were the first to use gas in warfare. Okay. And when you have to wear the gas mask, you want a tight seal. Right. You can't have a big old fucking... So that makes sense.
Starting point is 02:20:46 Handelbar mustache. That makes sense? Yeah. So he just kept a stash. Yeah. He kept it. I think that's why he had that mustache. I think that's the case.
Starting point is 02:20:56 I bet. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know that gas was created by Fritz Haber, who also created the Hobber method for extracting nitrogen from the air, which is responsible for 50% of the world's fertilizer. Interesting. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Yeah. He was created... Is that called the cyclone B or no? Yes. Well, Zycon A was the gas that was originally used where you could smell it. Yes. And the idea of the smell was supposed to let you know that this is dangerous, get the fuck away from it.
Starting point is 02:21:25 Right. Zyclon B, they took the smell out so that they could gas the Jews. So this guy created this gas. that they were going to use in World War I, and he was being wanted for crimes against humanity. At the same time, he was going to win a Nobel Prize for creating the Hobber method for extracting nitrogen. Yeah, 50% of the nitrogen in everyone's body today
Starting point is 02:21:53 comes from the Hobber method. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. It's great. The story's crazy. It's an interesting, it's like two roads diverged in a wood. Mm-hmm. Yeah. One of them is the fertilizer. Not only that, he was Jewish. And so he wound up having to flee because they accepted him at first because, hey, this is the guy that gave us the gas. And they're like, no, he's a Jew. And so eventually he had to take off. And so he died of heart failure while he was fleeing, while he was fleeing the country. So they made him flee? Mm-hmm. Because he was. Because he was Jewish. Because he was Jewish. Yeah. He wasn't ripping them off on the gas.
Starting point is 02:22:33 It was gouging. It was gas gouging. You don't think he was like, I'm the only one that can do this. I'm the only one. The margins are reasonable. Bah, ha, ha. Oh, the whole story is crazy. His wife hated what he was doing, and she committed suicide in front of him.
Starting point is 02:22:53 And she was still... Dramatic. Still alive, but shot herself. And then he left the wife with his 13-year-old son to go to the front line. Wow. Yeah. To fight with the allies. Well, to make sure that his gas gets implemented properly with the giant fans.
Starting point is 02:23:11 Oh, interesting. Yeah. It was the first time they'd ever utilized that. Interesting. Yeah. And supposedly that's where Hitler developed the love of that mustache. Because in order to have that gas mask to survive the gas, you have to have a tight seal on your face. It's such a...
Starting point is 02:23:27 These little snapshots into, you know, just like, again, from a mustache to the... gas mask, it's so crazy. The little snapshots. I claim he used a fake name, but his first name is still Adolf. Wouldn't you not do that? A better name? He used a false identity with Citron
Starting point is 02:23:45 specified as Adolf Schittlmayr. His account was supported by a photograph taken by the residence. Yeah, but the problem is when you change your first name, everybody forgets. You know, if all of a sudden you became Mark, and I was like, oh, sorry, Tim.
Starting point is 02:24:01 Right. It's too complicated. But if you became Tim Wilson, I'm like, oh, you just change the last name. That's not Tim Dillon. That's Tim Wilson. And he could eat. You get a new head. You get a new head like the Osborne girl.
Starting point is 02:24:13 Yeah. And you could just blend right in. I'd go to Peter Thiel's Satan conference with a whole new head. There you go. He doesn't know who it is. Never know. He doesn't know who's sitting there for four parts. You should just go and wear a burqa.
Starting point is 02:24:25 I should go to the Peter Thiel Satan lecture in a burqa. Well, you can't get in. It's sold out. It's sold out. and it's private. Well, imagine buying a ticket to that. Like, what do you want to do? You want to go to the movies?
Starting point is 02:24:36 No. You want to go see a concert? Right. I don't know. Peter Thiel's giving a lecture on the Antichrist. It's clearly such a... Let's get a babysitter. It's clearly such a, you know, odd attempt at positioning, whatever you want to do is like,
Starting point is 02:24:51 we're going to... You know, we're trying to fight the Antichrist. Or he has very esoteric interests, and this is just one of them. Like, if you're worth that amount of money and you're just really into... weird stuff. Like, I don't know why he brought me over the house to, uh, meet Eric von Daniken, but I was not that influential back then. I was, I was not someone that you would have on the radar as being the guy who is going to affect presidential campaigns. Yeah. I was a MMA commentator, who's a dirty comedian who talked shit on the internet. Right. Like, that was it.
Starting point is 02:25:25 And I had had Eric on my podcast before. That's how Eric and I became friends. And he knew that I had a deep interest in and I've read Von Danikin's book. I've watched his documentary and I know that a lot of that stuff has been debunked and that's one of the reasons why they wanted to bring me over to ask him questions and you know von Daniken is a true believer of a lot of that stuff and I used to think he was totally wrong and now I don't like if I interviewed him again today I would have a different perspective because I used to think that the idea that we were visited by ancient aliens and that aliens helped them build the pyramids and all this stuff. I used to think that's all silly.
Starting point is 02:26:12 What's really going on is there was a collapse of a very sophisticated civilization because of some sort of a cataclysmic disaster. And then we're trying to make sense of this without an understanding of what their technology was. now I think both might be true well yeah and it's supposed to it seems there's more interest now in the UAP phenomenon yeah than there's ever been there's a lot of that but I also think that's because look if you've been in charge of back engineering spaceships so you've been in charge of lying to Congress and mis appropriating funds in order to have the amount of money that you would need to do this stuff. And then through all of this, you've achieved substantial gains in whether it's fiber optics or whatever the technology that you've back engineered where you've figured out how to make something that's like completely spectacular. You're in a situation where as transparency becomes more and more of the norm. Like one of the things that's going to happen with
Starting point is 02:27:26 with AI and then most certainly with quantum computing is all decryption, all encryption, all that stuff goes away. It becomes a real problem with resources because almost all money is just ones and zeros. So who's got access to it? Who does? It's going to be nuts. Like solving all that's going to be nuts. But also hiding information is going to be virtually impossible.
Starting point is 02:27:54 And if there's people. that know eventually at one point in time, they're going to have to pay the toll. Right. So we've got to get ahead of this. And the best way to get ahead of this is like this Age of Disclosure documentary. One of the things that all these spooks, all these like former, former, you know, deep, deep state guys who are now whistleblowers. I'm doing air quotes of my fingers for people who are just listening. They all talk about amnesty.
Starting point is 02:28:22 This is the secret to all this stuff. the secret to the only way you're going to be able to do all this is you've got to give amnesty for all the people that committed all these crimes because the general public needs to know that this stuff exists. That's right. Yeah. So I don't know if that's the case, but I do know the historical accounts of us being visited are very consistent
Starting point is 02:28:46 and they've been going on forever. I have no experience. I have nothing. I've never seen anything that crazy except on. On a few things But not sober I've never seen anything Right
Starting point is 02:29:01 So I'm just It's all anecdotal to me I've never held a piece of something Oh my God It's from another world But my friend Jesse Michaels Just went down to Peru And they did all these medical scans
Starting point is 02:29:13 Of these tridactal mummies And they're not They're not fake Whatever the fuck these things are In the fetal position They have all the ligaments And tendons Their heads are huge.
Starting point is 02:29:25 They look like a fucking alien. They have three fingers and three toes, and there's a few of them. They're like three feet tall, and these things are 1,700 years old, and they look exactly like all these things that people claim to see when they get abducted by aliens. Not only that, they're in Peru, which is the home of many of these monolithic, huge megastructure sites like Machu Picchu and a lot of the legends come out of there, too. Yeah, well, also, the Nazca lines, like immense artwork that you could only see from the sky. Also, all their artwork, like, they have ancient artwork depicting three-fingered, three-toed beings with big heads and big eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:12 What the fuck is all this stuff? It's got to be something. It's got to be something. And so, my approach to the, because I go, Jamie and I just talked about this yesterday. We go back and forth and back and forth on the alien thing. I think some of it's probably real, and I think it might be where this, where Egypt springs from, where the sub-Saharan, sub-Saharan Africa, like this whole thing where they think that maybe that was the center of Atlantis, that was, right, why were they so much more sophisticated than anybody else? How did they develop these kind of, how old are these goddamn structures? No one really knows.
Starting point is 02:30:55 They're just guessing. It's because it's stone. Why does it feel like right now there seems to be a renewed interest in this stuff? Is it just the technology? Is it the internet? There are more people. There's more documentaries. There's more pop culture.
Starting point is 02:31:10 For U.S. stuff? Yeah. Is it, are we ahead of some kind of disclosure? Or are we, are we, are we, what are we, what is the, why is this happening now? Well, I think the New York Times in 2017. opened the dam. That was the big thing.
Starting point is 02:31:25 When they published on the front page of the New York Times, this story about UAPs with credible accounts, you know, I had Gary Nolan on the podcast recently, and one of the things that he said is they have radar of that Tick-Tac thing from 2004 where it goes from sea level to 50,000 feet in less than a second. He said, assuming this thing weighed two tons, which is like, you know, a regular car, It would take all of the energy that the United States produces in a year to achieve that, to go that fast with a 4,000-pound thing.
Starting point is 02:32:05 Yeah. To go from zero to 50,000 feet in less than a second. That's how much energy it would take to do that. That's real. That's real. That's what's weird. That's radar. And you've had Ross Colthard on, that guy?
Starting point is 02:32:19 No, I have not. He's an interesting guy from Australia. They talk about stuff like this, and it's just, I can, you know, what's really hard about this stuff is you can never like, it's a nebulous, you know? Exactly. Because, like, we can talk about the CIA, we could talk about all these things that are provable and exist and there's names and dates and things and you could go, they manufactured this or they. Yeah. With this stuff, we're talking about government agencies without a name or a name that's unknown to us. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:48 In locales we've never been. in underground cities, it's all very speculative for my taste. I don't doubt that some level of it happens, obviously. But we're talking about, I don't know how to even approach it. There's so many people talking about it that probably have no idea what they're talking about. It's so hard. A lot of schizophrenics involved. A lot of people that are just complete scam artists that are lying about having been abducted.
Starting point is 02:33:16 There's a lot of ego involved. People want to be special. They want to be the type of person that the aliens are really interested in, you know. It's hard. It's hard. And, again, with no personal experience. But then when you talk to people that have had personal experiences, it's very odd how compelling they are. I bet.
Starting point is 02:33:34 And they don't seem kooky. Like, I talked to this guy, Travis Walton, who was abducted in the 1970s in the forests of Arizona. He doesn't seem crazy, man. He doesn't seem like a liar. I bet he's not. Yeah. Bob Lazar, doesn't seem crazy. It doesn't seem like a liar.
Starting point is 02:33:51 And not only that, but a lot of things that Bob Lazar said turned out to be true. And I think it was 1989 when George Knapp first interviewed him on television. He was hiding his face. But he was talking about Area S4. Area 51 wasn't even confirmed back then. That wasn't something that they really confirmed. The government didn't confirm it until they tried to expand the boundaries of Area 51 in the Obama administration. because too many people were going out there and filming things.
Starting point is 02:34:22 Right. So they had to go, no, the place where you can't go is way further because you fucking assholes have good telescopes. Right. So he was talking about something that was completely unknown to the general public because it wasn't even just Area 51. It was Site 4. It was S4.
Starting point is 02:34:39 And he talked about this place that now we know for sure they were doing these black ops, these black funded programs where they were creating military vehicles and they were flying people in and out of that area. And who's doing it? This is a level of, we would imagine this is like military intelligence that is not, no oversight.
Starting point is 02:35:05 No oversight. Yeah, no oversight. President really doesn't know. Congress doesn't know. Have you ever listened to the, you ever watched the Jeremy Corbell documentary on Lazare? No. You should watch it.
Starting point is 02:35:15 I would like to. Fucking crazy. Is it? Where is it? It's on Amazon, Netflix. It's on probably all those things. Because that's the thing about me. It's like Congress doesn't know, president doesn't know.
Starting point is 02:35:25 Then there's a lot of CIA stuff where they don't know about this. But this feels like another subterranean layer that very few people know anything about. And the way you're going to get these things done, like if you do have something, you have to back engineer it, who do you bring in? Well, you bring military contractors in because they make jets. They make spaceships. That's right. Those are the people you bring in. You're not going to just get your...
Starting point is 02:35:50 And they sign a bunch of documents and they don't say anything. And they're surveilled to make sure they don't say anything. Exactly. And if they say something, you kill him. So the Lazar story was he was, he worked for, fucking what is the lab in New Mexico? What's that place that... Why am I forgetting the name? The place that Lazar worked for in New Mexico?
Starting point is 02:36:16 God damn it. Net Los Alamos? Yes, thank you. Yeah. Why am I forgetting that? So he worked at Los Alamos Labs. They denied that he worked there, but he was actually on the employee roster. And there's articles in New Mexico in one of the local newspapers about Lazar being a genius who put a jet engine on the back of a Honda.
Starting point is 02:36:35 Like he was a crazy propulsion guy. That was what he was interested in. That's what he, clearly a brilliant guy. When you talk to him, when you listen to him, talk clearly brilliant. And so they brought him to Area S.4. and they said, figure this thing out. And they had this spaceship that was sitting in a hangar. And they had an American flag sticker on it.
Starting point is 02:36:56 And he said his initial thought was, oh, that's what's going on. So all these people that are seeing this thing, this is ours. Right. It's okay. Right. Makes sense. Then he started looking around it. And he started getting, first of all, he said it was 3D printed or something because it didn't have any seams.
Starting point is 02:37:12 Right. And then it's not designed for human beings. It's designed for something that's three feet tall. and it doesn't have any controls inside of it. So there's some sort of a connection between the mind of whatever the fuck is running it and this thing. And then it had some very bizarre generator inside of it that he said used an element that was unknown. This element was called Element 115. They have a stable version of this element.
Starting point is 02:37:37 They bombard it with radiation. And it creates this sort of gravity warp that allows it to bend space and time instead of using a traditional propulsion system. Right. So they didn't even, this element wasn't even proven until that somewhere in the 2000s, they, with the large Hadron Collider. So they got a very glimpse of this element. So now this element is a real element, but we don't have a stable version of it. But supposedly Lazar did. And one of the things that they allege is that he escaped Area S4 with a piece of this stuff, a piece of this stable element.
Starting point is 02:38:14 and that he's been hiding this forever. So one of the things he did with George Knapp was he made a video demonstrating how this element bends space and time around it. Right, right. And it's like. I got to watch that talk. It is interesting. It's very weird. It's the one area I've never gotten super into.
Starting point is 02:38:35 It's very difficult. The Corbell documentary is excellent. It got me way back into UFOs. I was ready to dismiss him again. I'm like, God. You're ready to leave. I'm back. But that's what supposedly it looks like.
Starting point is 02:38:46 That thing right there on the desk. Yeah, that makes sense. That's the sport craft. And that's what transported Hitler to Argentina. Well, that's where it gets weird, too, because the Nazis were very interested in advanced technology. They were very interested in it. They were into the occult. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:03 All of these big constellations of power are interested in the occult. Why is that? No idea. Probably because they feel like that evil and good are real things. things. And that they can, well, for sure. And I also think that they try to, try to, they're interested in sources of power. That seems to be something they're interested in sources of power. Yeah, in the back in the 40s, people still believe in witches. They probably completely believe that there was, sorcery was real. That's right. Some way to, you know, to use
Starting point is 02:39:39 spells and powers. And if you're trying to like run the world like the Nazis were, and you're You're on meth, too. You're on meth, and you're trying to run the world. You know? That's amazing. They had no idea that it was just all of the stuff, the witches and everything they believed, it was just so that Chris Jenner could get a third head. All right, should we wrap this up?
Starting point is 02:40:05 Thank you so much. My pleasure, brother. It's the most fun. Hang with you. I'll see you tonight. Yes, we're going to have fun tonight at the club. That should be a good time. Awesome.
Starting point is 02:40:13 Ron White's going to be there. Yes, love that. We're going to party. We're going to have fun. Yes, sir. Thank you again. My pleasure, we'll talk soon. All right.
Starting point is 02:40:19 Bye, everybody.

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