The Joe Rogan Experience - #240 - Aubrey Marcus

Episode Date: July 16, 2012

Joe sits down with Aubrey Marcus.

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. That still is one of the proudest moments in my life. Hearing Nick Diaz say that, train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. That was one of the happiest I've ever been as an adult. That was like right up there with fucking anything else that's ever made me happy. That was so killer. So you're back, dude.

I'm back. Back. How many times a year are you trying to do these intense psychedelic experiences? Well, you know, after this last experience, I kind of got the message that, you know, there wasn't too much left for me to explore in this. But, you know, I kind of see myself as an adventurer, you know, coming back, getting knowledge and taking it back and sharing it.

When you say that not too much left, I always feel like if I do it too much that I'm not absorbing what's happening. I always feel like if I have too many experiences in a row, like two or three in a couple of months, I feel like I'm just playing. I'm just riding a ride. I'm getting scared. It takes a long time for the big ones to make sense to me. Yeah, I think there's a certain amount of information

that needs to kind of accumulate. You need to get farther off track for your experience to be really... Well, that's what the people say that are real skeptics. They'll say, what information? What has anybody ever brought back? There is some anecdotal evidence that some things have been discovered why on lsd and supposedly francis crick on his dying deathbed you know said that he lsd discovered the dna molecule yeah but you

know what man fucking i'm on deathbed somebody might say i turned christian you know you're fucking dying man you just might be making shit up you know he's crazy he's dying i mean why is deathbed worth anything you know i mean death bed she'd be like don't listen to that dude he's fucking freaking out right now he's dying he why did you decide to make up some shit about lsd and the dna mom oh just fucking whatever i was dying i was tripping my balls off like but what have you like is there like one thing that you could like if someone said what do you ever bring back is there one thing i can i can give you three things from this last experience that were pretty poignant life lessons that were told to me just directly flat out that i think

will help me for the rest of my life i mean actual concrete things this was a very different experience and i don't know if i should just go from the start or kind of hop into the middle. For the folks who don't know, Aubrey had a recent one. It was about, what is it, six months ago, the last one? Well, the Iboga was six months ago. And then the last trip to Peru was a full year ago. So this was the anniversary of that first epic trip down to the jungle. And the first epic trip, you went with the same guy, the guy they call the dragon.

The dragon dragon yeah and you had some insane visions and you communicated with flotillas of snakes and like what what was it like yeah i mean there was a the second experience i had the first one was just basically coming to terms with my own mortal death i mean every possible way i could die snakes eating out my organs sliding down vines of thorns, every possible way that I could confront my death, I had to go through. Sliding down vines of thorns. It was even telling me, it was like, your body is riddled with cancer. You're going to die as soon as you get back. And I was like, oh, that was the one that got me, actually.

The thorns and the snakes eating me, and actually the insects burrowing in my skin and exploding. All of that stuff, I was like, all right, I'm cool with that. Like, I can get over that. But then it was like, your body's riddled with cancer and you're gonna die and at that point yeah exactly but at that point i had to be like okay you know if this is the end so be it and as soon as that happened i could feel you know the medicine just kind of draw me back down into the ground and a deep sense of peace and a kind of conquering of a fear of suffering that i had so you had to just figure out how to let go the idea that you're going to die which really is the one thing that

fucks with almost everybody yeah it's the number one pervasive fear yeah it's i've had that conversation yesterday with my four-year-old it's very strange when they start to be aware that you know that people will cease to exist yeah that's a tough one so that's why they call it the vine of death actually it's one of the reasons is because ayahuasca, one of the first things it's going to do, it's going to make you confront your death. And if you're not ready for that, you'll fight that and you'll battle with that until the end. But you got to just kind of get past that first step. So fortunately, the first session I had the last time a year ago got me through that. And then the next one, I was just brought to what the shamans call the eighth dimension they call it out there that's just the paradigm that they use but it was just this

unbelievably lucid place where i had to get me there i you know i had a flotilla drawing smoke out of me and then i had another one that was shooting a beam of light under my tongue and then i just under your tongue yeah it was the weirdest thing i've i've no i've since had some people say you know there's some yogic practices where you absorb something or another between underneath your tongue but i knew none of that now and i don't know if i necessarily subscribe to that even after reading it but there is some kind of literature about underneath the tongue but i just did it instinctively and this beam of light just goes piercing through my tongue yeah i wonder if it's because sub

um sublingual um drugs yeah it's a very it's a very strong absorption site yeah it's like the easiest way to absorb directly into your bloodstream so it's kind of an odd odd thing for me to do without thinking about it but after that happened i just burst into this other dimension and from that dimension i could see people that i wanted to see i could scan my body i could could look towards the future, towards business, towards anything. And everything was just perfectly lucid in this universe that didn't change no matter which direction I looked at. And it was the incredibly profound, life-changing experience in the last session.

Did it seem, when you were looking at the world and all the different aspects of your world, did it seem like something you're creating in your mind? No, it really didn't at this time. And I've had some psilocybin experiences and some other different experiences that seem very much like an exploration on a ride through my own subconscious, like going through the dream state, processing bad emotions, bad feelings. But something particular about the DMT experience and the Iboga experience transcends that kind of feeling like you're on a ride through dreamland, you know, that really is your own mind. It felt completely different because I was so lucid.

I was so able to just navigate through a different space where only the shaman was sharing that space. The rest of the people around me were just these spindles of light that i could kind of see through and i had full options to do whatever i want i even ran back to my cabin and shot a little video where i looked really kind of weird and a little bit freaked out but i was like i had to capture that moment because i was worried that i was going to forget it so you got a video of you talking about what you just experienced or were you experiencing it currently while you were experiencing it currently so i turned the camera on myself and i was like you know this is me i

hate to mention it's a space of infinite possibilities and i'll show you there something like that but but i had such freedom to just do whatever i wanted in that it seems almost impossible to me that that was generated by my own mind so what do you think it is then i mean it is generated by your your own mind interacting with a drug so but does that drug act as a doorway to a new experience i think it does i think what dmt does is it opens up the realms of possible like opens up the other dimensional realms where there's knowledge and information that wants to come and you know access your brain and you. You want to receive information from those other dimensions. And how it comes to you is generally there's a translation gap.

There's no Rosetta Stone there. So it comes through generally as pictures. And these pictures can often be very confusing. But it's really trying to translate information that your brain wants to get access to. And the only way it knows how to do that is to show you pictures. So you explore these pictures and find answers from what I believe is either the collective unconsciousness of all people or another dimension that's even higher, that's beyond people, that transcends people, that's a wisdom older than people. And I think

that's kind of where you're accessing this information i think also there's also some component of your own of your own mind and consciousness but i think dmt in particular is uh is a pretty unique molecule that really allows access from you know some other spaces that are non-self-generated it's certain it certainly seems like that when you're doing it but nobody knows what the fuck that really is what are you doing over there brian looking up cat pictures okay let's not do that while the podcast is very distracting i'm looking at you on the screen if you want to look up cat pictures just stretch us out so you don't have to be looking like a fucking weirdo cat stalker in the corner um um when when you when you take it and you have that feeling though do you think

it's possible that feeling is just a drug interacting with your mind because that's like what the skeptic would say right sure it's certainly possible i mean you can't you how do you how can you rule that out and actually that's one of the things that you know and i'll get into that a little bit more in the second experience because the second experience this one i just got back from i had actual encounters with allies like different beings that were talking to me and that's the first time that's ever happened like the last time and they were giving you good advice yeah yeah they were giving me good advice do you do you think that that's possible that that's like part of your personality that's definitely possible

it's definitely possible you know what i mean like there's like some area of your personality that subconsciously needed to get expressed and so what it's done is it's created a character that's going to guide you. I mean, I don't know. Look, that's absolutely possible. And I'm not playing devil's advocate. I just really don't know. It certainly has felt like when I've had DMT experiences that I wasn't in the same place as I am now.

I felt like I was in a new world. And I definitely also was kind of tweaked by the fact that i was myself i wasn't drunk i wasn't stoned i wasn't i wasn't myself tripping balls i was myself seeing something that was impossible yep it's a weird thing how that experience hits you where it doesn't change your own personal fee the way you feel physically the way your mind works it doesn't change that it just it seems like a doorway but i don't know what the fuck is really going on that's it's interesting yeah so i'll tell the story of how i encountered these beings and then we'll we'll try

and figure it out because i had a lively debate i was actually down there with my friend bode and we had a lively debate he was on the camp that it was just you know parts of my own mind but for me i wasn't quite sure it seemed like I think that either or to be confident in either or silly yeah exactly look consciousness is created by chemicals okay you need all these different chemicals in order for a human being to have a mind that's functioning and this consciousness of the human mind has manifested a physical reality that is almost impossible to imagine when you think of airplanes and the internet and television and fucking giant buildings and shit

these are all come from chemicals chemicals have produced chain reactions they've produced they've set into motion a chain of events that have fucking eaten every fish out of the ocean polluted everything, figured out how to drop bombs that incinerate a half a million people at a time. I mean, this has all come from chemicals. So why would we be tripped out that the idea that you introduce a different chemical and you literally change dimensions?

I mean, the chemicals in this dimension have changed the shit out of this place. And that has done it in the form and the manifestation of human consciousness why wouldn't we think that another one that you add to human consciousness might elevate you to some different place yeah and that's what i think the real shame about all the the drug laws that you know disallow these different explorations because you know at this point it's just such a still such a small amount of people that are accessing this that are able to research it i mean the lebron james of psychedelic tripping has not been discovered yet

you know like he's like the person who can go go out there and pick up information that's completely different and bring it back and solve some of these mysteries it's just you know you got to have a basketball court on every bra every block to produce lebron james yeah and you got to have psychedelics legal you know to get enough of people to get the super explorer out there and have access to it. Yeah, and I think also collectively we learn from each other's

experiences. I know that when I have had friends that have tripped and came back and had a different perspective on themselves, just absorbing their story and absorbing their experience, and then you have your experience compounded with the information that they kind of gave you about their experience and it all builds up together when you're just by yourself alone in a fucking cabin in vermont

and you're tripping your fucking balls off with nobody to talk to you know it's like did you mean what was that movie uh into the wild is that what it it was? Where the kid goes up to Alaska and one of his big things is he realizes he can't have fun unless he is with other people. You can't enjoy your life unless you're with other people. The idea of going out here. Humans are social creatures. Yeah, you can't just be in alaska and go this is so beautiful i'm going to be so happy no you where is where is everybody doesn't matter how many flashlights you have it's still not going to be fun yeah there's a show that

i've been watching lately it's called uh mountain men and this it follows three different dudes one in alaska one in montana and one in north car Carolina and the guy in Alaska man this motherfucker is a trip this guy gets in a little float plane and he takes off and he flies three hours into the woods where there's no one and he gets there and goes to his cabin and when he goes to his cabin then he has to take piece by piece his snowmobile is to take the parts out put them back together by the way it's 30 below zero has to put the parts about in the daytime has to put the parts on his snow machine together if there is a day depending on what time are you

here yeah and then he drives 24 miles on a snowmobile 24 miles to check his string of traps and that's what he does every day he He did it every day for months, and he made $4,000. Yeah. $4,000 for doing, like, the hardest shit you've ever seen in your life. This guy's, first of all, his trails will disappear because the snow will hit so fast

that by the time he tries to turn around and drive the trail back, you can't see what the fuck is going on. So he hits logs and breaks his skis, and he's like, if you get hurt out here, you're fucked. Like, no, really? You're three hours by plane into Alaska.

There's no one there. No one. And this fucking guy is driving around killing animals with these springy metal contraptions that snap their heads in. And then he takes their skins and sells them whoa it's a hard man meanwhile the dude seems happy as fuck that's the crazy thing about it the guy seems so happy he seems like he's having a great time and you know we were talking earlier about people who are on antidepressants like what number of people are on antidepressants and how weird it is when

you're around someone who's loopy on antidepressants. And you're like, I wonder how much of our brain is just fucking designed to be a hunter and gatherer. And despite the fact that we've evolved way, way past that societally, the physical body is slow as shit to catch up to technology. Yeah, for sure. I read a book by Bertrand Russell called Conquest of Happiness, and he was a preeminent kind of 19th or 20th century philosopher. And in that book, he describes like a gardener that they had. And this gardener, he said, was one of the examples of the happiest people he's ever seen. And he lived in a very affluent kind of British society. And he said, one of the reasons his keys

to happiness was every day he went out and his's his job was to hunt rabbits because the rabbits would tear up the gardens so that was his daily challenge that he got to do and he was had like every morning he woke up and he's like oh those goddamn rabbits i'm gonna fucking get them you know and that was that for him was all he needed to every day have that challenge and have the ability to meet it and feel like he was making a difference that's what made him happy so similar to your mountain man you know he goes out and he goes after those animals and he has that challenge against nature challenge to catch the animals and and then come back and get it and i think that makes him happy but these people who have these jobs that feel like they're completely meaningless like what are you doing what are you creating it's monotonous it's the same day it's not a challenge anymore

you're just clocking in yeah i think that makes it even more more difficult to maintain happiness well everybody can't have the perfect life unfortunately for a society to work like this the only way to have a gigantic society the way we have here is there's a lot of people have to do shit that sucks yeah they they have to and you get talked into thinking that you know going to get out of college, all you need is just get a good job and you're going to be fine. No, no, you're not going to be fine. You're not going to be fine. For eight hours, you're going to be in pain every day.

It's not a lot of pain, but it's a mild pain. It's the kind of pain that makes you shoot up a post office if you absorb it for 30 years. That's what it is. It's just mild pain pain especially when you make the releases illegal you know i really think if you're going to be in that kind of situation there's a lot of people that are well if you do you better get out and fucking camp on the weekends and go find nature again because that's part of what i think is another key probably why your

mountain man is so happy because he's connecting with the natural world which i think is another big key so you better go out and fucking camp on the weekends. And every six to 12 months, I believe that a psychedelic reset can be extremely valuable, can kind of purge all of these kind of negative emotions that you felt. And then you can kind of go do your job

and check out and live for other things, live for your girlfriend, for your workout that you have at the end of that. Live to get out of that fucking job. Or bust your ass. Get one that doesn't suck. Read Pressfield's Turning Pro or War of Art and get the fuck out.

That's why ocean towns are so happy. Every time you go to an ocean town, it's always happy and positive, and people are happy. That's because they're humbled by nature. Yeah, that's what that is. They see it every day. You're humbled by nature.

Yeah, I agree with that. Mountain towns are like that, too. They're nice people because they're humbled by nature. It's it's a different kind of humbling the mountain towns because it's a cold weather sort of button down the hatches do you guys need help changing your flat you know it's like that kind of happy but uh the the ocean towns are always like laid back because like you just look out of that ocean and go shut up bitch can't nothing be important look at this look at this crazy puddle of water we're in front of. I tell you, man, San Diego is there for Comic-Cons.

And you were also so beautiful. I did that one bridge, that humongous bridge that kind of goes around where it's just super high up. It's blue water. San Diego shits on L.A. Get those negative ions off the water. It's weird how the weed i you do feel the that marijuana laws or at least its tolerance is completely different than what it is in los angeles oh yeah they have they have a really hard time putting up dispensers there they keep getting shut down

and then like like the people that work the doors are all ex-military guys so they enforce it more you know it's like you can see how it just spreads like we could barely find a place to smoke a joint in San Diego near a comedy club you know at first we were like trying to go on the sidewalks and we got kicked off churches and yeah it's a lot trickier than it is in LA LA is so ridiculous right now it's like if the folks who live in other parts of the world you don't realize how suppressed you are yeah you come to LA and I mean and they keep talking about closing places down they target after the big places that's what they do they target after places like Oaks jordam there's another place and and the good thing about these big

places is those guys generate enough money to fight it in court and so hopefully some some good will come out of it but you have no idea how many there are there's no idea there's way more than there are starbucks and mcdonald's combined and when you hear the shit with the raids and stuff it's all if you look at the the the shit like the why they got raided it's because they were operating without a license you know they weren't there's so many there's so many places that are just they're breaking the laws no no no this with that last one tommy chung said is. The one in Long Beach where the cops stepped on the kid's neck. That was fucking...

Yeah, they didn't have a license. They didn't have a license. But the big ones they're getting, the DEA's going after them because they have a lot of cash. That's one thing. They're stealing their money. They're going after them. They take their pot and their money. And, you know, good luck getting either one of them back.

And a year later, your pot's not worth anything anyway, stupid. By the time you go through the legal bullshit, yeah, here's your pot. By the way, most of it's probably already smoked. DEA probably smoked the shit out of your fucking weed. They resold it and then reacquired it. Well, Obama said that he was only going to go after people that were violating both state and federal law.

That's what they said at first, but they've not lived up to that to people that weren't violating uh that were violating both state and federal law that's they said at first but they've since not they've not lived up to that because uh that oaksterdam place wasn't violating state law they're just you know they're it's a it's a fucking they got to keep busy and it's an easy way to arrest people not get shot you know go try and raid the meth lab with such confidence you know go try yeah you step into a fucking meth lab, dude, you might get shanked. There might be a dude hanging by his heels from the ceiling ready to drop on a cop because that's what he does because he's methed out all day and he's got a knife in his teeth. Yeah, you don't want to do that.

Kicking in a meth lab is dangerous. They'll throw a grenade at you and blow it up right in front of them. They're fucking methed out. They don't know what they're doing. But cops, when they go and break out a medical marijuana store, it's like you might as well be arresting babies. Nobody's fighting back.

Meanwhile, the cops are smashing the cameras and shit. The whole thing's disgusting. If this was a CVS pharmacy, they'd get right down the street. You would never think about doing that. Meanwhile, those motherfuckers are dispensing Oxycontins on the regular. People are coming in every day that are stone-cold opiate junkies. And CVS is just keeping them alive, keeping them alive,

and giving them bottles of pills. And some of them they smash and snort, and some of them they smoke, and some of them they just take. And meanwhile, the medical marijuana place, get on the ground. You have plants. You guys have flowers. I think the biggest problem is the reason why it's not already legal is you can't patent pot. It's just too easy to grow.

Too many people could do it. So they can't control it and they can't monetize it. The corporations can't do it. There's that for sure. For sure. I mean, there's no other... You have to follow the money in all of these cases and there's just no other good reason.

Except, I guess, in some cases like Iboga and Ayahuasca, I mean, nobody's going to do that shit for fun. I mean, it sucks. You're puking. You're shitting. You're like... It's a tough, tough experience. It's like tomatoes.

Not everyone's growing tomatoes. You know? That's true too. Even easy. Yeah, even easy shit like tomatoes. And that shit's fast also. That's true too. Even easy shit like tomatoes. That shit's fast also. Yeah. Celery. Grow some bamboo. Grow your own bamboo.

Bamboo grows like a fucking inch a day. It's constantly growing. It grows fast as shit. It would just make it cheaper. It would be like being able to buy a pound for five bucks. The idea that you could be growing like lettuce and I can come along and say you can't grow lettuce if there was only two of us that would be so ridiculous you're like what

the fuck are you talking about get get away from me i'm growing some lettuce if there's only two of us it would be not but if there's 300 million of us you can come up to me and say you can't grow marijuana yeah i'd be like what are you talking about why are you telling me what to do ever well the only reason why it seems like you should be allowed to tell somebody what to do is when there's you represent some giant group of people like there's a bunch and so this bunch has decided they don't like you doing this and they haven't even decided it by the way you know it's like what it is is a bunch of a giant group of people who are making money from other things and are worried that you're gonna take away some of their profits

with this plant that you want to grow so they go and they pay off the cops and they they literally do they give them money and then they they give politicians money they give it to them they give them millions of dollars and they say we want to make sure that this this position is supported and so they go out and they bust pot shops I mean it's really that's a tonight and even the grades in the male species of hemp you know we can't grow that I have to source our hemp for this new protein that we got from from Canada and it comes in just the male species yeah and it's i mean so easy to grow sustainable for the soil you don't need pesticides the protein it produces is one of

the most nutritious proteins for you at all the fibers you can use for clothes i mean and it's illegal to fucking grow here it's incredible and it doesn't even fucking it's not even psychoactive at all no it's illegal to grow a plant that doesn't even get you high because it's related to a plant that gets you high that's food it's going to be even i mean you know god for god forbid there's some kind of hunger issue that comes from any kind of collapse or something like that but then you got a plant that's about the easiest motherfucker to grow that can feed people and clothe people yeah and you're like no no, no, no, no, no. We do not want that. Because why? Well, because its sister makes people high. Makes people happy.

Meanwhile, they're selling Oxycontins by the truckload. They got truck passing each other on the highway, filled with Oxys. Everywhere you go, Oxys, Oxys. What do you got there? Nothing. Just some pharmaceuticals. I'm bringing a CVS. Go on your way. Yeah. I always thought i always thought is that a roach in your fucking ashtray boy you know they'll pull you out and beat you if you have a roach in your ashtray but they'll they'll look at your

papers and go what do you got enough oxycontin in there to kill a fucking country yeah good i always thought it would be a good a good skip by some enterprising pioneer to take a cop out to a cow pasture and find like a magic mushroom that's growing in the cow pasture and walk with the cop and just find the exact point where it becomes illegal to touch something that's growing out of the ground. Just bring him, come up to it, come close to it. Is this illegal? Is this okay?

Is this illegal? And then just touch it with your finger. If you pluck it, do I own this now? Yeah. And I'm now a prisoner. Can you pet it? I mean, at what point does he smack you in the face and handcuff you? If you pick it up by the turd.

Yeah, if you hold the whole turd. Yeah, I'm not even touching it. I've got a shovel. Right. Shoveling the turd. I mean, just to find out. I mean, it gets so absurd at that point when this when this natural substance becomes illegal they were legal in england for into really real recently but it's probably because americans went there and took too

many mushrooms and freaked the out ran down the streets like all right we got to stop this maybe or they just had too many good ideas you know yeah hope well hopefully that was the reason yeah but i guess you know there's some there's the two promising fields there's some pretty good research coming out johns hopkins had that one on psilocybin that was the reason. Yeah, but I guess, you know, there's some, the two promising fields, there's some pretty good research coming out. Johns Hopkins had that one on psilocybin. That was good. MAPS is doing some good work. Some other people are doing good work.

But then the Church of Santo Daime won a big case for ayahuasca as a medical, I mean, as a religious sacrament. So that's kind of another angle that's kind of allowing some of these medicines to get in through a loophole. Because you're allowed, you know, the Native American church already got peyote approved. And then this Church of Santo Daime, or either them or the EDV, I don't know. I think it's the EDV. The EDV that did it?

Yeah. Both are trying. I think one succeeded, one's in the works. It's something, the vegetal. How does the EDV, what is it? What is it, breakdown? The vegetal, something like that yeah well for folks who don't know what these are is they're Christian groups that are

from Brazil and they combine Christianity with ayahuasca it's it's a very strange sort of offshoot of religion they take a really high level psychedelic drug and they sing songs about Jesus. I have a friend who went and said, it is crazy. He said... There was a shaman down in the area that we were at who does that, who combines, who blends Christianity with the traditional jungle beliefs of ayahuasca.

So the beings that he's talking to, sometimes it's some spirit of Mother Ayahuasca or whatever, and other times it's straight sweet baby Jesus that he's talking to. Sometimes it's some spirit of Mother Ayahuasca or whatever, and other times it's straight sweet baby Jesus that he's trying to talk to. And that actually throws some people off. I definitely prefer my shaman to be straight jungle beliefs rather than Christian. Well, that really begs the question then, what's going on? What's going on? Is Jesus real? Or is everything you can imagine real? And is your imagination concocting all this shit? And is the imagination sort of being underestimated or downplayed or maybe mischaracterized? We look at the imagination as something that creates some bullshit, something that's not real, something that

creates things that are imaginary. You're making it up. They don't exist. But maybe it's much more complicated than that. Maybe their imagination is a reality-creating frequency. Maybe it's something that actually does... I mean, out of the imagination comes everything, right? That's true. This fucking computer didn't exist

until somebody imagined it and then made it. It also could be that these are really archetypal forces. So if you're talking about St. George or St. Michael or Jesus, you're just basically giving a name to a spiritual force that has certain characteristics. But you're also giving them a face, too, right? Yeah, giving them a name and giving him a face yeah yeah but it's all happening there i think it might be all part of the translation mechanism you know it's communicating

to you in the way that makes the most sense right to you you know but so let me let me get into the full story because i've had some encounters with some entities brian do you have that do you have the music might be kind of cool to cue this up so you can get a taste of what i was hearing as i was going through this uh and this is called what are they called they're called the icaros icaros and these are passed down grandfather to grandson and their songs that they sing while the ayahuasca ceremony is going on yep and they take the ayahuasca with you so they learn these songs while on ayahuasca and they sing the songs while on ayahuasca and also smoking the nicotina rustica cigarettes which is a different type of tobacco yeah why does tobacco um play a part like they'll blow tobacco on your face yeah that's kind of a cleansing ritual the tobacco part but i think it

also has some effect on opening up the reactors in your brain so it kind of activates the ayahuasca experience i think the i don't know i could do a little bit more research on the science behind it, but I think the nicotine has some similar effect to the DMT reactors. Well, it's amazing how many people are misinformed about nicotine. Nicotine actually is good for you. Nicotine is healthy for people who have bad hearts. You could use it as a medication in some circumstances. It's just smoking it with, like, 590 other chemicals is not so fucking fantastic.

You're smoking it, period. Yeah. You know? It can be. But naturally, when you're getting a bundle out of the jungle, I think it's a little different. Yeah. I think, yeah. And cigars are different, too.

Yeah. So anyway, so this guy's singing this thing. Yeah. So here it is. you're tripping balls so this is this is this so the first time i had kind of a real physical purge not too much to talk about i was nauseous the whole time i was puking and shitting and it was more about my body getting prepared for the second session so the second session i doubled up on the cups and it's about an hour and a half in and i'm listening because you're basically hearing what i'm hearing at this point

in time the shaman's kind of rattling his leaves and singing his songs and uh and then the experience starts to get rich like it did you know the time before and what appears to me is like a nexus of energy right in front of me and unlike last time where things were coming at me snakes and eels were just charging at me from all directions. This time it was subtler. I felt like I was looking into a black hole or a wormhole. What is that sound? The whistling? No, the background.

That's the, I don't know, the cricket type. That's the insects in the jungle. That's the insects in the jungle. We're outside in the jungle, yeah. I mean, this is the real jungle. Dude. Just that alone. Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, has somebody got a r a rattle I'm like what is that it's not a rattle no that's

inside yeah so in Ohio sounds like at night I don't think Ohio sounds quite like the jungle no those insects I'm sure I mean there are some insects in Ohio there's some insects out here at night too but not so much I hear my name P3 player like oh yeah oh yeah totally really yeah 100 maybe maybe the i don't know if it'll catch something scarier about the jungle sure i mean there's jaguars and monkeys and all snakes anything like that no we did see uh we did see a taper though as we were going through which is pretty cool oh wow yeah those little anteater guys but anyway so it appears to me as like a nexus, and nothing much has happened.

A phone? Yeah. Is there a nexus phone? A Google phone? No, but it's like a vortex, let's say, like a vortex, and it's kind of swirled with some different colors, purple, and it's just kind of waiting there for me. So I was like, well, I guess maybe I should ask something to come through it

because nothing really was happening. So I'm looking, and I was like, all right, I'd like to be, you know, if anything's out there on the other side, you know, please come to me. And I say that to myself in my head. And then bursting through comes this huge dragon, like this giant 10, the dragon head was just 10 feet right in front of me. And it was a silver dragon in the kind of medieval stylings. And it had fluorescent green and blue highlights. And smoke was coming out of his nose. And he was like clearly a fire

breathing type of dragon. And he goes, he comes right up to me and he goes, so you want to change the world? And I go, yes. And he goes, why? And he's like flaming coming out of his mouth. And I was like, because that's what I'm here for. And he goes, and laughs. And for whatever reason, I decided to take him like never-ending story. And I just hopped on his back. What? Yeah. So I hopped on his back.

And he starts cruising. And we're kind of cruising through. And he goes, so why do you want to change the world? This sounds like a kid's movie. I know. It does, right? It was a fully never-ending story. And I go, to help people.

And then I thought that was a pretty good answer. And he goes, are you sure? And then right there, he, like, shows me a cross- section of my life and all my actions and what he showed me was is that even though ostensibly i do a lot of things to help people there's always always a serious component of propping myself up my own ego my own persona my own kind of establishing my own self in the world for you know egoistic and pride reasons and he just showed me this like lucidly clear you know that there was a mixture of of my actions you know and he wanted to mess with all of us yeah and he wanted to have

me be aware that of where that boundary line lie and not to trick myself or confuse myself and thinking that you know what i was doing wasn't also for my own benefit i was like all right dragon like like one point for you and then he's so we're cruising so then we keep cruising and he starts to really get heated in the mouth like flame was trickling out and he goes is uh what do you want to destroy and he like swoops down and i was i was sure he was ready just fuck some shit up so i was like ignorance and i thought he was just gonna lay the ground with fire you know and instead he, shouldn't that be what you want to heal? And I was like, yep, I guess you're right, dragon.

So he was really like challenging me in these answers that I gave him, which was a pretty interesting kind of experience, you know, for this other entity to be clearly, you know, showing me different sides and teaching me things that I clearly wasn't quite aware of. Maybe you were. Maybe you somewhere in the back of your head were aware of your shortcomings. Not even shortcomings, just slight bullshitting.

Yeah, exactly. So he wanted to just carve away all that nonsense and then show me the rest. So the dragon, I was still on his back back and he drops me off in the woods all right so he drops me off in the woods and i and i'm walking through the woods okay so you wait a minute how did you get to the woods though i'm on the dragon's back full never-ending story imagine the dog but are you really in the woods you're really in the i'm in the jungle but whatever how did you really get there though i mean you really didn't fly around in a fucking dragon did you well in my mind i did i was cruising on a dragon and then all of a sudden he drops me

off and i hop off i don't know the the details of how i got off the dragon into the woods or i wonder what was really going on while you what would i have seen are you on a dragon now i'm off the dragon dragon let me off what would uh i wonder what I would see if I saw you doing that would you just be walking and I bigger what are you doing price sitting drag down yeah I was me so much about myself fucking dragon are you talking about man yeah exactly so anyway so I dismount from the dragon somehow and I'm in the woods and I see a bear and the bear bear has a big, giant crown. This sounds like a terrible idea to be tripping your balls off the jungle. Yeah.

Wandering through the woods by yourself. And I'm assuming it's nighttime too, right? Yeah, it was nighttime. Well, I'm laid out. This is all happening in my mind. Okay, so you're not even moving. I'm not even moving. Okay.

No, I'm fully. You weren't actually in the woods. No, no, no, no. Okay, good. I'm on my back in the jungle in the physical world. And then in my mind's eye, yeah. no. Okay, good. I'm on my back in the jungle in the physical world. Oh, right. Okay. In my mind's eye, yeah.

Now I feel better. My mind's eye. I thought you were saying you were walking around for real. That's a little scary. Yeah, that's a little scary. So I get dropped in like a forest, and it was like a woodsy forest, like a Colorado-type forest, different than the jungle. And I see a bear, and the bear has a gold crown on its head

and a bunch of gold chains all over it. Mr. T-Bear. Mr. T-Bear, exactly. And the bear is a gold crown on its head and a bunch of gold chains all over it mr t bear mr t bear exactly and the bear is kind of struggling and i see kind of like a ghost of the bear like the spirit of the bear and it's trying to leave the bear's body it's trying to like venture out but it's stuck and then the bear catches sight of me and that's the crazy another crazy thing about seeing these beings it's like the bear like turns to look at me and like notices me you know it's not like he was waiting for me there he's like oh here you are you know like you just showed up so he turns to me and he goes i remember before this crown and all these chains when i was just a

bear and i could run free in the woods and i was like okay okay i get it and basically what he was trying to tell me was is that you know don't ever let money and wealth or anything tie you down and like keep you from your freedom and expressing what your real nature is you know and it's really kind of like a buddhist sentiment that he was that's a difficult thing for people to do it sounds like such a noble task when you're poor the real problem is once you actually get money you know one of the big things that happens to people when they get money is they they're scared of not having money so they start doing things they think like um like they'll like especially like i see this

with comics they like start saying things they think people want to hear or they start uh you know like avoiding any sort of controversy that might get them in trouble or moving away from anything that might be controversial because they want to keep this money coming in yeah you know i got a career now i gotta keep my career coming and the bear becomes no longer a bear in this analogy yeah it's got gold chains on looking like a retard yeah exactly did this bear ask you for a picnic basket but You might have. It did get real gay after that. So at that point, I don't know, I somehow was able to free the bear's spirit after he said that,

and we went frolicking through the woods. So he was your boy? He was my boy after that. So we cruised around. And then the final visitation from this being is I was cruising through the forest, hopping over logs. It was very Robin Hood cartoon style, little John i was cruising through the forest like hopping over logs it was very like robin hood cartoon style you know little john and robin hood through the forest type of program and then so up you know and then all of a sudden i see an eagle up in the sky and i'd

like raise my consciousness to the eagle anything it was really like a dream state so anything's possible you know so i just kind of float up to the eagle and the eagle looks at me and I'm cruising along. The eagle says, do you know how I see so well? And I said, no. He says, because I see through everybody else's eyes. And I took a moment to sink in. And what he was showing me there was that also often when we try and imagine what people are thinking or feeling, we have our own bias. We don't actually truly see through their eyes. Like, imagine what their fears and motivations and weaknesses, even the people that we don't like, we always see them with this kind of biased look like, oh, that dude's a fucking idiot. But, you know, if we really try to get into their eyes, you can learn something about that person and learn

something about the world by actually dropping all of your kind of own ego and really assuming the eyes of whatever else you're you're trying to look at whether it's an animal or a person or something like that i've tried that i've tried that with a lot of people i try that especially with people that i don't like yeah i was trying to figure out how they got that especially once i had kids once i had kids then i started looking at people completely different because i looked at them as babies and became adults. So I looked at this weird process. I used to see someone who was weak. I'm like, it's a fucking weak bitch.

That's what I would think. And now I look at them and I'm like, wow, what happened? How did you get to this spot where you don't have any courage or you don't have any whatever? Whatever it is. Or you hate or you're racist. Whatever's broken on you. How did you get there? Yeah, and that's a really valuable way to do it. And also, I'm sure for comedy, you have to put yourself

into the laugher's eyes and consciousness to a certain degree too, right? I don't know, man. That I don't try to do. I just try to do shit that I think is funny, and I hope that they agree. Because I could not, I mean, it's just too many people. Yeah, too much of a different swath of people yeah and too many people have their own take on what's funny and what's not it's like what happens when you get a television show and then you get a whole slew of producers that have an opinion over what the character should be doing and what what's

funny and what's not funny then it almost always goes to shit i mean until one strong voice sort of takes over it's very hard to express your own sense of humor yeah try to express a sense of humors of a bunch of other fucking bunch of other random people yeah yeah now that makes sense but you know i guess so for me there was these three lessons from these three clearly seemingly you know different entities and uh and so yeah the question is you know were these part of my own consciousness teaching me these lessons or were these did they all have the same voice no the dragon they all sound the same the bear and the dragon were close but they're the dragon was really i couldn't even mimic that voice it was like that booming like you're too close to

the festival speakers bass kind of voice and the bear was just like like a man bear man voice i don't know and the eagle was the eagle was a little bit more normal but uh but yeah similar similar voices i mean if you had to fuck one of those animals which one i find it just for pride i yeah just say you did it i i find that that's those themes reoccur uh with me over and over again just when i eat pot those those those themes all the themes of um of reality you know what are you what are your what's your real motivation when you're doing things what is your uh what's your real experience with other people and how much how much of like disputes you have with people how much of it is your fault.

So I would think that if you take a hallucinogen, I'm sure you have the same thoughts. If you try to better yourself, if you're trying to move your life in a more positive direction, you're going to have the same sort of key stumbling roadblocks, I think, in the mind. How much of my ego is holding me back? How much of my perception of reality is distorted,

and that's holding me back? Sure. So you would think that a drug, if it was just something that would make you see Jesus or dragons, that maybe that's what it is like these themes and that it's it's spelled out to you because the drug thinks you're an idiot so it's like show them yeah yeah exactly it comes to you in a way that you and we are idiots i mean that i mean no i don't mean that in any disrespectful way at all but when i feel one of the things that i

feel most certainly when i do uh dT or something along those lines is that I'm a fucking idiot that's one of them the humbling experience it's very I was extremely humbled after those visitations because you think that you got it all right and then it shows you someone like the dragon comes along and just like nobody like you were a little yeah so here's the truth and now come to terms with it you're like oh shit you can't have it right it's part of being a human you know that like the dalai lama doesn't even get laid he doesn't have it right he doesn't have it right yeah he's never gotten he doesn't fuck he doesn't fuck he doesn't get his dick sucked he doesn't get his balls and that's why he's not an effective leader how are

you fully gonna trust i don't think he eats meat either he can go fuck himself do you think of like those crazy homeless people though that are sitting there talking, having full-on conversations with dragons? Do you think there's a big connection to actually feeling that and seeing that and opening your brain up to that guy? It's a real good question, really, and you'd be disingenuous to not address it. Because I think what we said before what's going on with those people in our medical idea you know the medical community's uh version of it is that

there's an imbalance it's a chemical imbalance they have issues they have whatever it is they're psychotic they're they're you know paranoid schizophrenic whatever the the diagnosis is we're going out on a limb and saying there's some sort of chemicals that are out of whack there well it's the brain's just a soup of chemicals it's in neurotransmitters receivers whatever the fuck the brain itself is the neurons all of it together mushing around if one of those is out of whack you know and one of those is out of whack because you're crazy or one of those out of rack because you're at the at a hut in the fucking jungle right and you took some crazy shit which is a soup of some roots that fucking blow your neurotransmitter levels out of the water

like this shit's coming out of your ears i mean what is what what's really happening there is it might not be much different than what that guy's experiencing at the bus stop well i mean the content the quality of content is certainly your brain is a healthy brain can bring you back to baseline on a dmt flash in 15 minutes ayahuasca is a little longer because it's absorbed by the stomach and so it's sort of a slower process the what what ayahuasca is is an orally active version of dimethyltryptamine which is the most powerful psychedelic drug known to man which is also produced by your own brain yeah that's the weirdest part about it is that it's in all these different plants it's like in grass and all these fucking leaves and squirrels make it yeah it's sure. It's everywhere. Yeah, it is.

There's a small amount in everything. The leaves that they choose in the jungle, they choose a leaf called chacruna, which is one of the strongest DMT-containing plants in the jungle. But actually, there's other plants like the acacia plant from Australia, which has an even much higher DMT content than that. In Australia? You can make an ayahuasca out of other different things.

Like you could use a Syrian rue and acacia to make a different ayahuasca type rue. Yeah, and you have a different experience. You have a different qualitative experience. Different visual experience. Well, that was one of the things they say about the idea of the psychedelic experience is that when you're taking it, you're taking in the experiences of all the other people who have also experienced a psychedelic drug. And as you do mushrooms, you are actually contributing to the library of mushroom experiences. Yeah, the collective unconscious of all of that.

It becomes the spirit of the mushroom or the spirit of the ayahuasca. That's generally how they talk about it. You know where else that acacia bush is in large quantities? Israel. Oh, yeah. Oh, the burning bush. That'srael oh yeah oh the burning bush they believe yeah was the burning bush that this is scholars believe this legitimate guys who aren't even psychedelic scholars because those are slippery scholars those psychedelics some of them a little sketchy but um this there's a recent thing where these guys from some major university in Jerusalem were talking about how they believe that Moses receiving the Ten Commandments from God and God taking the form of the burning bush was most likely a bush that contained psychedelic chemicals.

Makes sense. He's smoking the acacia bush. Makes sense. It totally makes sense. So many of those mystical experiences make perfect sense if you put it in that sense. Yeah, if you put them in a psychedelic drug perspective. I mean, that is the most obvious one ever, though, okay? It's a burning bush. They're not calling it anything else.

It's a burning bush. And it just so happens the acacia bush has the highest concentration of DMT. Of any plant in the world. Yeah, and it grows all over the fucking place, right where this dude saw God. You know, what bush do you think it was burning? It was probably that bush. in the world yeah and it grows all over the place right where this dude saw god yeah you know but what bush do you think it was burning it was probably that bush yeah i bet if you burned a bush and got over it and sucked it all in i bet you would see this same Moses especially if you were hungry if you're walking around fasting or doing whatever balls off anyway yeah yeah absolutely i think a great many of the religious experiences that people have had can be connected to psychedelics, including Mayan art and Egyptian art.

Because one of the creepiest things that I've found is that, especially on mushrooms, I have seen a lot of Mayan things. I've seen a lot of Mayan imagery and painted mayan uh hieroglyphs like you see that sort of imagery and you wonder what came first the chicken or the egg because you know these motherfuckers were eating mushrooms like crazy i mean they they were living in the jungle where these things grow they look like dinner plates if you've ever seen them and mexico had one of the richest traditions of of mushroom use sure you know that's where gordon wasson first found out about it and all these different shaman in mexico take people on these journeys to you know the spirit world using these uh these these dinner plate

sized mushrooms that's one of the interesting thing about the psychedelics that make it seem like it's not your mind like someone can take ayahuasca anywhere in the world the desert the mountains the city whatever and they're almost always going to have similar visions of snakes and the jungle and these different beings jaguars always goes back to the jungle you know how is that how is that possible if it's just solely being mind created it seems like that's where it gets weird and that's why even with these beings like you know i was laughing with uh with mitch schultz i was talking to him the other day and uh and we were saying you know if the lebron james of ayahuasca came along he could go to these entities and figure out what they do when they're not teaching people shit you know if they're real because whenever they appear they're always trying to

teach you something and tell you something like what are they doing do they like hang out and play around like play board games or like what do they do in their life like how do you get to that point where you can experience more than just taking a lesson and that would be the way to determine whether these are just you know ways that your mind is communicating with itself or whether these things have a life outside of this didactic purpose that they have it feels like you're popping your head into somewhere you're not supposed to be that's what it feels like you're like what am i doing here and they're like what are you doing here yeah yeah exactly oh you're back oh you're back it's weird that they they communicate with you and sometimes in sentences and words you've heard before

yeah it might be a a delay in your inner conscious you know how you you can like if you listen to your inner conscious talking and imagine the drug just slows down your ability to uh receive your inner conscious voice and so it sounds like it's somebody else but it's really yourself in your inner conscious talking to yourself it could be yeah it could be it could be a lot of different things for sure you know um it i think one of the first DMT trips that I had, one of the weirdest feelings about it all was that the idea of being connected to everything sounds like such fucking hippie bullshit. It sounds like nonsense. You know, say we are here, but we are connected to everything. It's I'm not feeling that, you know, I don't i know that that might be real but for whatever reason i don't really feel that i don't feel the subatomic particles i don't feel the atom i don't

feel the cell i don't i just feel me and i know that i'm breathing air but i don't feel the fact that the air is connected to all these it's all a soup of things yeah but when you have the dmt experience one of the things that it does is it strips whatever you're experiencing while you're tripping your balls off it strips away the physical presence of things and it's almost like the world of you know here's the ground and here's the air and here's a tree and here a building. That world is replaced by a world where nothing has any matter. Nothing has any physical matter, but everything is everywhere. Everything is everywhere, and you're in the middle of it,

and there's no ends, and there's no beginning, there's no roof, there's no floor. It's just one thing. It's all a part of one thing, and you're in there scrambling, trying to make sense of it, and these things come out of nowhere that are essentially constantly changing as you're in there scrambling trying to make sense of it and these things come out of nowhere that are essentially constantly changing as you're watching them so you're not even sure what the fuck it actually is and you know it might be your own mind it might be your own mind trying

to make sense of the whole thing but and they're trying to give you information one of the things they try to tell you is to try to stop don't freak out and try to suck it all in try to take in as much as you can because you know this is crazy and um if they tell you they love you too that's like it's always a big thing like love you like the one experiences that i had they sang to me like a child they had this song i love you 600 million 500 000 times which is like how a kid would say something yeah yeah and then would go, look at this. And they would show me something fucking insane. Something where you couldn't look at it.

It was too beautiful to look at. And then it would say it again. Like, I love you 600 million, 500,000 times. Look at this. And every time it was look at this, I remember crying. Because what I was looking at was too impossible. Nothing could be that beautiful.

And every time they would say, look at this, it would get a million times more beautiful. It was just taking my breath away. I couldn't breathe. It was very, very strange. But it was very, very, very positive. The experience all over was very positive. And so much of it was like, dude, relax.

Relax. This whole thing is, first of of all way beyond your control way big and you think and it's gonna be fine like that was like that was like a big yeah a big theme that if anything that i learned from it uh i learned that i learned i think i did i got i think dmt made me a nicer person I think I learned how to chill out more. Sure. It's really valuable that way. Actually, just speaking about what you were saying, so the third time I drunk,

I didn't have any particularly crazy visions, but for three hours, the hut that I was in, everything else melted away, and I felt myself dissolve into the floor of the jungle. And I was like... With the worms and shit? bugs yeah the bugs and the worms were crawling through me like the air was it was like i was no longer a physical being and i

was absolutely one with the jungle and i was asking i was like hey does the dragon want to show up does anybody want to come but nobody wanted to come it was just like literally three hours just breathing with the jungle and i left that and I was like, it was just a really grounding and connecting experience. But it was almost, at that point, I think the message to me was like, we're done teaching you silly little lessons. Take this, be grounded, be humble, be connected, and go off and do your work.

Do what you need to do. That was Ayahuasca's version of get it together, bitches. Yeah. It was just really so peaceful. But I remember all of the things that normally would creep me out, the creepy crawlers of the jungle. You look at the ground in the jungle, and it's alive. There's ants and moving, all kinds of shit.

That was me. That was in my body, and I was just totally relaxed and disintegrated. And that was a really kind of powerful medicinal effect the vine of thorns sliding down a vine of thorns naked naked that was the fucked up i was like why do i gotta be naked like why does it take my genitals first like what reason is just shredding them how much pain were you in you you don't feel the physical pain, but you have that kind of horror. Yeah, the horror of your genitals being mutilated as you're sliding down a line of thorns. So it can get intense, but you just got to remove yourself from that kind of angst, you know, and just witness and allow.

That's the mantra. Anybody who's going through any of these experiences, just witness it and allow it to happen, whatever it may be. But the last experience I did was the Iboga experience, and this one really kind of drew some counterpoints to those two experiences. They're so wildly different, and I think I touched on this last time because I was fresh from Iboga. But ayahuasca will show you some things that you have no fucking clue what it means. Like one of the visions I had after the dragon the bear the eagle because i was on this viking ship and i was

rowing through this sea this moonlit sea you know i'm like all right sweet i'm on this ship i don't know what's going on and then all of a sudden the ship peels out and heads straight towards the moon so we're going straight towards this giant blue moon and this moonlight is like bathing me and then this purple orb comes drifting out of the moon and it's drifting towards me drifting towards me and i open my mouth and i eat it just and then i was like wow that was significant that must have done something but nothing happened i don't know what it was it was like your balls off that's it that was it and then the whole time even to this day i mean the best explanation i had was maybe it had something to do with the feminine energy of the moon. But I don't fucking know.

I have no clue if that had any meaning at all or if it was just some random trip. Did you say the feminine energy of the moon? Why would you think the moon would be feminine? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I'm reaching for straws here. Just reaching for straws. But that is a funny thing.

Archetypally, it is feminine. Everybody loves that feeling, that way of distinguishing things, the feminine energy of the forest. Yeah, who knows? But that's the difference between a boga. A boga will tell you, hey, it doesn't bother with the pictures of this strange moon and this purple orb. It'll be like, yo, this is the truth like and it's in

kind of your own voice but ayahuasca will give you things i mean some things were very poignant and you know taught me a lesson like the things with the allies but there's all these other visions that you're left like what the fuck was that yeah you know so it can be it can be a challenge in some of that some of that regard but the physical experience you feel, how connected you feel, how cleansed you feel, because afterwards, after that third session, he took one of his cigarettes, the nicotine rustica cigarettes, and he blew it like down my spine and like on the top of my head and in different key parts. And I was like, I wasn't even that nauseous that whole time. The third time I felt very comfortable. I got back to the room and just fucking lost it.

Like I felt like I was heaving some giant ball of something from like the depths of my soul. I don't know what was going on. It hit my mouth so hard that I exploded vomit from my mouth and my nose. And there's nothing worse than stomach acid and old ayahuasca blasting out of your nose at the same time and at the same time eyes are watery i can hardly see there's no electricity in the bathroom because we're you know there's they run the generator like three hours so then i have to like turn around and like blast some shit in the toilet too and it's like this brutal like savage cleanse wow you know and i and that somehow it seemed triggered by

whatever kind of you know cigarette cleansing thing he did the next day because i saw him the next morning and he just had this big smile on his face and he asked me in his broken english and spanish you know how was last night and i was like what the fuck man like he's like tobacco and just nods and laughs and pat me pats me on the back and keeps walking. The tobacco makes you throw up and shit yourself? I don't know. I mean, whether the tobacco is a vehicle for some kind of trigger or whether it itself did something, whatever happened, I had like the most intense purge that I've ever had in my life, like savage.

And that was his intention while doing it. Was it menthol? It does have a different stuff different maybe it wasn't tobacco you know maybe that was what he he like quote unquote tobacco it was really some kind of poison you son but it was it was potent and that's that's something that i think that's why they call it the master medicine because you feel like you purge all of these different poisons from your body jesus christ it seems like you should be able to do that in america yeah absolutely so ridiculous you have to get on a canoe to do this absolutely you know go all the way to peru people are doing that she's able to get a nice hotel get a steak you know somewhere nice a resort it's just

it's really preposterous i mean to think that people would be abusing i mean it's not fucking fun like it's valuable it's medicine it's like you do it with uh you know with with intention nobody gets through it unscathed you're gonna learn something yeah it's like i don't i've never heard of anybody that has had like a real deep psychedelic journey that didn't come back and go wow i gotta fucking rethink everything i've never i of anybody that has had a real deep psychedelic journey that didn't come back and go, wow, I've got to fucking rethink everything. I don't know anybody that has a real one. And if you don't, Jesus Christ, what fucking hope is there for you?

Right. You goddamn dullard. If you're able to do that in cities, if there was places where you could go get your shit together we'd have way more people with their shit together totally we really it's the counterbalance it's like the way to counterbalance all of this you know living in an apartment and you know grinding and strip malls and and doing shit you don't like exactly doing shit you don't like because it doesn't doesn't mean that every you know everybody can't live

the perfect life. But guess what? You're not everybody. The world's going to keep going as it always has with or without you. It's going to be going. You're not that important. So if that is the case, it is possible for you, you the individual. Then again, this whole thing might be your imagination i might be a

creation of your imagination as you hear this i might not even exist okay i might be here just to get these words into your mind to so somehow or another you zig left when everybody wants you to zig right you know there's just maybe that's what it is brain in a vat skeptical yeah i'm not real i'm not real i am you're real joe rogan god damn it you're real i am the influence for you to to stray from the herd you know you know how they uh there was an old debate you know that was that was a popular debate for a while amongst philosophers the are we real how do you know if we're real and there's a famous case where one philosopher someone was you know going off on that how you have no you don't know that you're real you don't know that i'm real whatever and he takes off his glove and he slaps the guy slaps the guy across the face it was like was that real

and that maybe not he might have fucking needed that guy in his imaginary world in the face so you can get anything done that's the that's the only way you can effectively combat that argument. It's a weird idea, man. I mean, you think about you're tripping your balls off on ayahuasca and certain people are seeing Jesus, and then other people are seeing jaguars, and they're seeing things they're scared of

or things that they revere, these ideas. I'm not convinced that the imagination only has the power to create things and then manifest them in the real world with actions. It might have a secondary power. It might have an actual power of creation. I don't know what the fuck happens when you leave my house. I'm pretty sure you get in your car and you go to your life

and you go and do your thing and hang out with your girlfriend and get in your car, and I'm pretty sure you do the same thing. But I'm not positive. I'm not really positive about any of this and i'm not positive that as you move in a certain direction that you know you're you're the same person every step of the way you're the same you there might be an infinite number of views with every single decision you make branches off into another you and another way and another version, another reality. And all these realities intertwine with each other and then we meet. You know, that's why sometimes when you run into someone,

it's like you've been on a path and you've been on a journey. And this motherfucker has been on a different thing. You know, not the same as you. Less, you know, less self-objective, less self-analytical, and maybe self-destructive. And then you're around them. It's like, how did I ever hang out with you? We live in a different world.

You kind of do. Maybe you kind of do live in a different world. Maybe the idea that time is this one flat, linear thing that we're all sort of living our lives in, in this one sort of band maybe that's not real maybe it's like just like the dmt dimension maybe it's just a fucking great big giant soup of potential universes that are constantly shifting and we just flip back and forth from one to the other and move through them like a ghost yeah that's uh it's it's so hard to

say i mean i i particularly like the paradigm that the shamans have there, in which case they describe all of these different dimensions as the layers of an onion, and each person has a toothpick that pierces all the different layers of the onion. And so that you're occupied in your consciousness on the first tangible layers, which encompass the first through the fourth, space and time, basically.

That's what you're conscious of. And then the fifth part of the toothpick, as you move up to another layer, that's the dream state. That's the collective consciousness. And then the sixth and seventh dimensions, those have the disembodied non-human entities that you interact with, like the floats that I found were from the seventh. They would call the dragon and these other things that things that you see you know the people singing you child songs and those are

beings of the sixth dimension and then the eighth dimension is this kind of oversight dimension where you can actually manipulate all the dimensions beneath it and see you know see everything it's like the highest vantage point where you can see in uh the dimension of imminent possibility where you can basically do what you're saying with your imagination believe things into reality from the eighth dimension you know imagine things into reality has anybody ever had an experience from the eighth dimension where they imagined some reality and then manifested it and then wrote about it um i this is where i got this idea yeah the shamans the shamans do you know and have and that's where they say they got the idea to create ayahuasca and they get these they get

these messages and these different herbal treatments and you know it's from these eight dimension teachings that they have but you know again i think there hasn't been enough of that but it's because there's not enough fucking people who have the skills able to do that to also not only get there, but then communicate the idea to a mass market. I mean, it's just such a limited swath of people who are able to access that dimension, A, and then B, to have that, to cross-section that with the amount of people who could then think of something, bring something back express it it starts to get really small numbers so it's so funny how many people who are productive members of society who are interested in personal growth who are all disciplined getting their shit done would never consider doing drugs to further themselves yeah they would never even consider

the possibility yeah it sounds like it sounds like an excuse to do drugs but really the greatest leaps I've personally experienced have been out of psychedelic trips for sure absolutely you know I was watching that I watched the Ray Kurzweil documentary transcendent man yeah see now yeah and it occurred to me you know he's always looking for these different technologies to answer some two basic questions one he wants to conquer death and two he wants to kind of revive his father's memory i mean those are big overriding forces he also has a lot of altruistic goals and he's an absolute genius no doubt about it but he's overlooking some very basic technologies

that have been around forever and these technologies are the psychedelics like i really truly believe that you can look at those as a technology you know and the technology of ayahuasca can get him over his fear of death and show him that you know there is an eternal part of him and everybody that's going to extend past this meat sack that we're currently walking around in but he's ignoring that technology because he's bought into the lie that this is a drug and this is bad. And the Aboga technology could get him direct access to the memories of his father.

So even if he wasn't really talking to his father, I haven't made up a decision as to whether you're actually accessing these people or just conversing with their memory, he's at least going to be able to access the memories that he's trying to bring back through technology he'll be able to access them he'll be able to communicate with his father and maybe find his own closure have yeah have some cathartic peace from those from those experiences but because you know some body in their higher knowledge has said oh these things

are illegal in the united states where you know they're legal in different places, but illegal here. He's completely ignored those technologies. And it's been something that's really sad for his life, maybe good for all of ours because he's been rabidly pushing forward other technologies to get there. And so he's advanced humankind dramatically where maybe he wouldn't have if he had access to these other things. But it's really interesting how a genius like that can be so focused on one area and then just ignore something that's so right there in front of him,

been around for thousands of years. Well, it's almost impossible to know everything about everything. I mean, it is impossible to know everything about everything. And a guy like that is obviously very driven and very successful, and he's a guy who works very hard. He's a very no-nonsense sort of a guy yeah and i think that guys like that they look at drugs as being a way to derail yourself yeah you know it's a self-indulgent sort of self-destructive activity propaganda yeah poor

fools yeah propaganda it's a it's a bummer i actually had another thought this is kind of changing the subject a little bit but i think but I think I developed my own version of the singularity. I think he has a very kind of technological kind of view of when that's going to happen, when man and machine become indistinguishable. And I follow a lot of what he's saying. I think that nanotechnology could eventually take over the immune responsibilities and the computational responsibilities

that we currently have. I'm fine with that. But I don't believe that's really the singularity because I certainly do believe in an eternal part of us. And I think that the real singularity is going to come when we advance to the stage where we can consciously take that eternal part and choose which body we want to be in and whether we want to be in it or not. So that whole death, the myth of death, when we think we die and then we think it's all over, that's really a transition. When we transcend that and we can just take our spirit and say, okay, I'm going to live in this body for a little while, and then, okay, I'm done with that body.

I'll take my spirit and push it into another body. And so that consciousness never experiences the memory loss, never experiences that lack of connectedness with everything else i think for me you know that is that that is the true singularity and i think that singularity would come when you really push the advances in this kind of psychedelic exploration you know i don't think that comes from technology maybe we do have to extend our lives another 500 years to be able to get there, you know, and technology can help us extend our lives for 500 years or whatever. But I think ultimately, the big advances that are going to take us to that complete paradigm shifting level are going to come from, you know, manipulating molecules like DMT and how they interact with the brain and transcending and being able to master these altered extra states of consciousness.

I think that the technology is sort of a psychedelic experience. It's just a really slow-moving one. But what psychedelics do is they dissolve boundaries and they create the impossible in front of you, and that's sort of humbling to the ego, and provide you with a limitless source of information and that's sort of humbling to the ego and provide you with a limitless source of information that's the internet i mean the internet the internet that is psychedelic defined the internet is psychedelic you know it's just it's not a big hallucination

so we sort of mistake the concept of what what is psychedelic but the technology for sure is changing everything and providing people with things that to them will be a regular part of their everyday life but just a hundred years ago were impossible and science fiction and insane you know and then it just becomes normal you just get used to it if we stay alive for a million years what is this going to look like i mean yeah you know what i mean i mean it will look psychedelic it'll look like a goddamn dmt flash the world will look like something that we can't even wrap our heads around we all have google goggles on and we're walking around reading each other's auras and you know there's new scanners that they're introducing at the tsa that are going to be able to to scan what you've had to eat that day.

Like, literally, there'll be something like... Oh, is that for, like, drug meals that are swallowing cocaine balloons? For everything, yes. For not only that, well, they'll be able to tell if people are high. They'll be able to tell if you're intoxicated, if you're drunk, if you're on pot, whatever.

They'll be able to scan your fucking molecule. Oh, yeah. Well, that's what it is. This lack of privacy is no longer a problem, but it's now a reality. It's slowly changing from, you know, like, what are we going to do when the government can read your email, to everyone's going to be able to read your email. You know, there's not going to be any information that you can share or that you can hide, rather. It's going to get to a point where every thought that you ever

have is able to be accessed it's going to be ones and zeros they're breaking the wall yeah it's going to finally reach the convergence that's the real technological singularity right the idea that we all converge you know yeah but they're not not with some malicious bad parent running the fucking show like well like we have right now. Yeah, well, we've got to figure that out. They have to catch the fuck up because the only reason why they're a malicious parent is because they're ignorant. They haven't had those experiences, which is what I've said before. You should never be a fucking president or any kind of leader unless you've had a massive psychedelic experience.

And people say that that's ridiculous i mean to the uninitiated me saying that is like oh that's rogan being silly you know he's just talking nonsense the fucking cage fighting commentator he likes extreme shit yeah no no rationally you're like who the fuck are you to try to change the world unless you haven't improved the world you don't even you're gonna keep playing the same stupid goddamn game see what the fucking dragon has to say about indefinite detention would you love to see barack obama just a fucking hut filled with barack obama george bush jr george bush senior wolfowitz rumsfeld and they're all ayahuasca they would be puking out little fucking demons i'd

rather see them on ecstasy. That'd be hilarious. Yeah, but on ecstasy, they'll be nice to each other for a few hours. It'd be awesome. And they'll have headaches and fucking nuke somebody for it. Yeah, then the serotonin will deplete themselves and they'll be fucking more cranky than ever. But if you got them on like a real session,

a five or six session month long journey, just leave them out there. And at the end of it, how do you feel, Mr. Wolfowitz? Just thinking about all the millions of deaths they've caused that could have been avoided, all the babies in Iraq with no legs. They may not come back from the jungle. They may feel like they just fucking can't come back. They're going to go for a walk until a jaguar gets them.

That's it. Sacrifice themselves. Even a jaguar gets them. That's it. Sacrifice themselves. Even a jaguar probably wouldn't get Dick Cheney. Like, what am I going to do with this old motherfucker? A jaguar doesn't even want to eat people that are that old. This is poison. Old cheeseburger-eating douchebag probably smells like ass. Imagine how bad that smells to a jaguar.

Yeah. Couldn't be good. On his second heart. The Caymans would get him. They don't give a fuck caimans will eat anything oh yeah yeah they will right yeah they're they don't get that big though do they not too big how big is that they're not that scary they can get like 10 feet 10 feet yeah but they can kill you 10 feet could kill you but they're not that they're not that aggressive they're not like crocodiles they're not like the crocs it's weird how parts of the world like some parts just develop too much cattle they develop too many unulid animals too many hooved animals they're

like all right bring in the monsters you gotta get the monsters have to chase down these 50 mile an hour running cows and kill these things i mean everywhere you look that has too many cows too many you know too many whatever it is whether it's antelope or water buffalo there's crocodiles there's wildebeest there's crocodiles there's lions it's all like it's almost like nature goes stop just does you fuck you fucking cunts you won't stop you stop fucking and eating grass all right grass alright bring it in send the monsters but in the Amazon there's no cattle

so they're like little crocodiles little ones little caimans snakes and shit we don't have like herds of cattle wandering through the rainforest that you have to minimize no you do is a very you

do get a very balanced sense you know like like nature got it right there when you're in the jungle you know like every inch is covered in life and the life is all kind of working together it's pretty it's a pretty cool feeling it's sad as fuck when you fly over the areas that have been chewed up we we flew into brazil and there's areas we fly over where you can see where they've uh chopped down big swaths of the rainforest and it's like wow that's no joke like that's a lot like they they've cut a lot of fucking trees down man yeah and that rainforest is not growing back where they cut it down i mean it's not it doesn't grow back there it doesn't it dries up and that's it. It needs the moisture.

I mean, it's like a self-sustaining sort of an environment, the rainforest is. And when you chop it down, it's not like it just builds back up. But that ground gets dry there because it's constantly exposed to the sun. It changes everything. It changes the whole ballgame. Yeah. It's really sad. It's really kind of fucked up.

How many years would it take to grow all that back? Eventually it would grow back. Would it? Seven. Would of fucked up how many years would it take to grow all that back eventually it would grow back would it seven and it would it eventually I mean what it I don't know if it would I mean I think you know where the Nile Valley is used to be at one point time rainforest yeah this would be lush look at it now it didn't grow back it became fucking sand the desert sure yeah weather patterns might have had something to do with that but I was watching a fucked up documentary on Neanderthals that may or may not be bullshit seems like it's bullshit according to a lot of these science

people have debunked it but it's really cool it's too bad that it's bullshit because the he wrote this thing about Neanderthals that we sort of... I think the word is anthropomorphize. You sort of give animals human characteristics. Right. And he compares a human skull with a Neanderthal skull. It's really fascinating. That, first of all, we see images of Neanderthals, they always look like people. Yeah, you think Geico caveman. Yeah, exactly. But... Which is likeri on a bad day but we're very different looking than neanderthals

neanderthals have much larger eyes and they're much higher on their head they're like where our forehead is yeah it's weird they're look they would look weird as fuck if you saw neanderthal in front of you it wouldn't be like oh there's a dude you know that's on his way to the movies he'd be like what the fuck is going on dude that's on his way to the movies. It'd be like, what the fuck is going on there? And this guy made them out. The other thing is that we always assume they have white skin. And he made versions of them, like an artificial version of them, where they had black skin like a gorilla.

And they were super muscular. and you know his idea is that it was uh we were at war with neanderthals until the intelligent humans figured out how to uh how to overcome them but like look at one of the images this motherfucker put up his idea of what a neanderthal face would look like whoa yeah he's like they would have big like slit eyes like a cat so they could see at night their eyes were much larger than ours and they were using tools and they were intelligent they probably hunted us like avatar it looks fucking badass but apparently there's very little little to support this guy's theories and it's he's most likely gone silly and went super sensationalist with all this. But it is kind of cool. So Neanderthals was a terminal chain of its own in the evolutionary.

The branch that created Homo sapiens happened earlier, and then Neanderthals was some terminal node that died out, right? But they didn't evolve from Neanderthals to anything else. Exactly. Well, see, I don't know. It's all very sketchy. But Neanderthals evolved in Europe exactly well we will see it's i don't know it's it's all very sketchy but neanderthals evolved in europe homo sapiens evolved in africa that's what we know um but we also know that a lot of people have a certain percentage of neanderthals in them

so we don't know what happened there whether we fucked them or they fucked us or both yeah or both but if they looked like this it would be pretty freaky if they really did look like giant i mean how many gorillas how many people wanted to fuck the blue avatar chick i mean people would do it for sure yeah that big crazy blue bitch especially if you could be in that big blue body being a dude's body she was sexy man it was something about us the navi yeah how many people got depressed after they saw that movie and wanted to live in the Avatar world? You know how weird that is? It was definitely idyllic.

But that was like a real issue with people. They got Avatar depression. For sure. We still long for that sort of noble hunter-gatherer existence. We still long for that. And the connectedness you know the sense of tribe we have a we have no fucking sense of tribe anymore really yeah you know we're so this is as close to tribe as we get yeah friends a couple friends yeah we don't even live near each

other he has to drive a fucking i see him four days a week he drives like an hour to get here yeah exactly no we're imagine if you had a walk we're nowhere near our friends you know that's that's so you know i think that's so important and so much of what's what's missing and allows people to get so fucking off like i saw i was just going i was walking through a tv and i hate seeing local news shit and i talked about some dude who had his wife like chained up and was like beating her with a hot frying pan and i'm like oh i fucking hate hearing that because it makes me so mad but i'm thinking like you know if there was a tribe if that meant that only exists because he was allowed to live out on a farm and nobody fucking checked on him but if you were in a tribe

that shit doesn't happen you know it's like where's your wife i haven't seen her for 10 years you know and i hear fucking hissing and screaming oh you're hot you know like you can't you there's some kind of stuff that the tribe would have taken care of that hut you know like you can't you there's some kind of the tribe would have taken care of that guy you know it'd been like you were a fucking sick dog go back to the source like you're done yeah you're done you know and and that just doesn't happen there's no kind of and that's an extreme example i mean easier examples are the people who are bummed out and depressed and can't talk to anybody or can't do anything or can't have that social contact. I saw something else on the disinfo.com site where this woman started a service

where she's charging like $60 to snuggle for like an hour in like a New York or city like that. She's going to get raped. But people are so fucking isolated from other human contact that it's seriously depressing them. $60 to snuggle. Yeah. No one's going to just want that snuggling. Some people need it, man. She's teasing.

If she's hot, I'd do it. $60? Of course you would do it, but you would try to fuck her. Maybe she's this bullshit. Maybe they're hookers. Yeah, they just start off with snuggling. But I know that if you take a baby monkey away from the human contact of the of the mother monkey you know if it can't like hug up on it they've done studies about that and the monkey gets fucked up it's like terrified it's all

fucking whacked out yeah you know i think a certain amount of contact and interaction is what our species is made for isn't it ironic that the larger the species group gets, the less contact it has with each other? I mean, you would think that this 300 million of us, fuck, would be interacting with each other all day long, constantly never get away from each other. It's almost like technology is trying to bring us closer to a tribe. Technology, by dissolving secrets and boundaries, is trying to bring this gigantic group back together again as one as one individual unit like a tribe but I think that there's a weird problem that we have

with the fact that technology is just fucking taking off faster than our biology can catch up to I agree I agree you know and I don't I don't i think it's real hard for people to be happy in the reality of today's world because just physiologically well first of all monogamy you know how many people struggle with monogamy how many people struggle with uh you know the idea of uh the responsibility of being a parent how many people struggle with the idea of the you know the fact that you have to sustain some sort of a living and an existence. It all seems like something you don't want to do. But yet, this is what everybody's doing. Everybody's getting the house and paying.

You have a 30-year commitment to pay the X amount a month, and you've got to work. Or they'll fucking take all your house away, and everything you paid will go to nothing. And you're fucking doomed. I mean, if you look at the way a lot of people are forced to live this life, it's so completely and totally unnatural, but so completely and obviously designed to keep this machine moving in the same direction. Because you keep this machine mass producing technology, mass producing innovation, and moving it faster and faster and further and further. I mean, that innovation and moving it faster and faster and further and further i mean that ultimately everybody's like a little worker bee trying to push their segment of technology further yeah

but it's the consciousness is starting to reject it you know i mean you're starting to see the casual the casualties have been around for a long time and they fill those with antidepressants yeah keep them in the system keep them going but at a certain point people are going to get fucking fed up again and i think that's maybe what this whole change in consciousness that people are talking about I think that enough I think that actually may be real I don't know if it has anything to do with what the minds were talking about but you can kind of sense something different happening now well I think just the fact that we're we've been

bombarded with truth for the past you know who knows how many years now yeah we're constantly bombarded with reality and information and that's just such a strange time where there's no running from reality whereas before people could just sort of live in the dark or go super religious or you know they could block themselves off to giant chunks of what really you know makes the world tick you can't do that anymore now it's it's all sort of people are becoming too empowered they're too too filled with information too aware yeah and it's slowly starting to you see how it's balancing itself out in the financial world like people are going to jail like crazy now and lawsuits are coming down like crazy there's you can't hide

information the way you used to you couldn't that that bernie madoff dude that guy that guy could have rocked that shit for 100 years back in 1910 you know he could have rocked that shit until the wheels fell off and no one would have suspected it coming but in this world in today's day and age it's like it's not that easy yeah yeah it'll be interesting to see which way it goes i think there is a year actually i don't know if he could have rocked that shit in 1910 i think i mean they would have probably caught him either way i don't think that i think there's a yearning to get back to that kind of community sense i mean as you said while you can connect with a massive amount of people online i mean so much of the interaction is also pretty fucked up too you know like cunt fucking loser yeah exactly yourself and you feel

it's not like interacting with the real person where that where you would never say that to another person because you would see him a even if you were stronger and could kick their ass you would see him get sad and it would be like you'd feel bad hopefully unless you're just a fucking total monster but you know there's this check and balance of real interaction versus cyber interaction that yeah social cues yeah feelings that you get from talking to people when you can just anonymously anonymously lash out at someone with no repercussions whatsoever yeah but have you been to the county fair that's all it's about you know there were so many fucking people out

it's just stupid people out there you know and you really see it certainly yeah like if you go to like a hometown midwest county fair no a lot of it is people just having fun man there's gonna be a few dickheads but whenever you get large gatherings of people there's always a few dickheads but it's not most of the people go to ohio go to county fair in ohio is ohio a different world it's not most of the people. Go to a county fair in Ohio. Is Ohio a different world? It's totally a different world than Los Angeles. But how is it a different world as far as the county fair? Just go there, I guess.

It's just awful. I've been to a few rodeos, and they're pretty friendly people. What are you experiencing? Just the dumbness. The dumbness. The caveman-type species that lives in certain areas of the United States. So Ohio is mostly idiots, is that what you're saying? There's a lot of them.

There's a lot of them. So when you go to a state fair in Ohio, you think you're just seeing a lot of idiots? Because, I mean, there might be Columbus, there might be Cleveland, and there might be Cincinnati, but there's a whole lot of other space around those areas that you're like, who lives here? I think the majority, at least least 80 of them are cool i think you just you're dealing with a small group of loud people that you know become a problem almost everywhere and a lot of them are fucking probably what i'm saying though is alcoholics and hate their life and what i'm saying though is that if if you see these people that are just idiots and retarded on online that are just yelling out cunt fuck blah blah those are the same people that you see you know the worst

the worst uh you see those people in real life too you just never see them because we're here in los angeles well not just that because you avoid them because you've got a good social circle you know you know where to go and where not to go and every now and then it crosses over and you wind up hanging out with some morons yeah or getting stuck with some morons that's why i fucking wish that the states had full autonomy because i think you would start to actually at that point where federal government could give up the states could make cool enough laws and have a cool enough system built together kick cunts out yeah well it just they would you know people would be attracted the right kind of people you know like state could be like a message board people you just ban people in real life like they can't get close to you the chance of tribe i

think would come back you know there'd be a unity between the governing body and the people and they would be like i fucking love my state like not just from some strange patriotic pride like yeah you don't mess with texas well i think eventually you're going to be able to walk up to someone and and like mouse over them you'll be able to like put your cursor over them're going to be able to walk up to someone and mouse over them. You'll be able to put your cursor over them, and you'll be able to read all their information. Except people will be lying motherfuckers with their cursors. Hopefully we'll have Yelp for people and be able to say, oh, Aubrey has five stars. He's a really cool guy.

We could take him anywhere. And California is only letting five-star people in. If you're a douchebag, you can't go. And this guy shows up. I'm a fucking good Christian. I'm a good guy. As long as you're not gay and trying to get married. And you see he's got two stars.

You're like, come on, Steve. There's people on Yelp that I don't know how they got on there, but there's people on Yelp, and there are people revealing people as if they were a business. Oh, really? But there's people on it. Oh, that's funny. I haven't checked to see if I was on there but well you should be able

to review the person that's reviewing and if the person reviewing only us two stars your their review shouldn't count right shouldn't count like well she's a cunt look of course she hates me she hates herself she hates everybody can't count every speaking of hate I'm how everybody would just fucking cheat that system do you know this Daniel Tosh situation? Do you know what happened with Daniel Tosh? Yeah, we didn't talk about this.

And this is what's hilarious. This woman wrote a blog about this. She wrote, She's Tosh 2.0 or whatever, that guy? Yeah,

he's getting in trouble for this. He's forced to apologize to this asshole. And this woman wrote a blog about it. A completely delusional blog, by the way. He's asking, this is what Daniel Tosh did.

He asked, he asked, what is this? She said, oh, I would find out this is Daniel Tosh. At the time, I thought he was just some yahoo who somehow got a gig on after Cook. I honestly thought he was an amateur because he didn't seem that comfortable on stage and seemed to have really awkward presence fucking useless fucking idiot writing a blog anybody can write a blog so this this dummy tosh is um uh asking people like to throw out questions so they're throwing out you know like what should i talk about and someone says rape and he goes oh yeah rape that's really funny yeah what what's funny about that the humiliation the violence you know he's like saying ranting on things the reason why rape isn't fun

right and so some woman yells out actually rape jokes are never funny this this dumb cunt that wrote this blog yells this out. So he says, wouldn't it be funny if you got raped by like five people right now? Which is really funny. You know, he doesn't really mean that.

What he's trying to do is, he's riffing and you're interrupting with some self-righteous horse shit. Oh, you're saying that rape is bad?

Is that what you're saying? Oh, Jesus. You're at a fucking comedy club, you asshole. And this woman writes this, she writes this whole fucking rambling self-serving article what you're saying oh jesus you're at a fucking comedy club you asshole and this woman writes this she writes this whole fucking rambling self-serving article about this and now because

of that he had to apologize for her because he joked around about rape yep that's raper well she's gonna get her mind raped on the internet, I'm sure, because it's so beyond stupid. She's like, we were shocked. We couldn't believe it. I demanded to speak to the manager. You demanded to speak to the manager. This is what I said. We talked about it in the Ice House Chronicles.

She should be fired from ever going to a comedy club again. They should take a picture of her, and every comedy club in the country should agree that this fucking dummy is no longer allowed to go to comedy clubs put a picture of her you're not allowed she comes to the door blow your rape whistle it's like yeah it's an agreement when you go to those places to just leave that shit behind go there to laugh go there to laugh at the taboos that you think are so sacred that you can't even touch them you know things that you're afraid of things your fear is death any of this stuff you go there you laugh you talk about it it becomes less serious after that i feel more bad for dane cook who has this as a fan poor guy can you imagine this being one of your fans well apparently dane cook um burke crusher was just choking around and said uh dane cook is gonna live tweet while my

show is on you know just joking around and dane got so much hate mail like hate tweets right away and then burt crusher started reading them it's a lot of people that hate dane cook like there's a lot of negativity attached to being that dude yeah and and he just got bummed out like and told bert to please leave him out of this whole oh really yeah yeah about yeah when we hear about him like yesterday whenever burt's show aired yeah if you tweet about you know dane is gonna just a certain for a certain number of people that's a free shot you're allowed to attack dane cook it's like minstelia minstia that poor fuck he is a he's a fucking duck with concentric circles of very colors red white he's a duck with a target on him i mean that's what he built his karma right dang oh yeah i don't

i haven't heard anything today everybody builds their karma everyone tweet dane cook that he has beautiful lips everyone tweet dane cook that he's a big sweetie he's a big cutie mc cuterson yeah it's funny that sucks man i you know the twitter is pretty fucked up how how that shit can turn on you and just ruin your whole entire day well what's fucked up is that you know anybody can sort of be anonymous and you know call yourself i mean there's a lot of pictures of on twitter of fake accounts where it's like a hot chick in a bikini and like please follow me i'm a big fan and like you look at her profile and that's her repeating that over and over again they're like a business yeah and they'll they'll do that and they'll say oh my god i just entered into this amazing contest for a free jet ski or whatever the fuck it is yeah sure you know

and they you know there's there's a bunch of people that run like there's this one dude that I know that runs thousands of fake Twitter accounts. And when he wants to spam something out, he spams the same message on every single Twitter account. This is why I found it out. I went to his because I knew that he was scamming people. So I went to his Twitter account and I said, let me look at his tweets. And then I looked at some of his tweets were responding to people. So I was like, well, what is he responding to? And then I would go to the responding page.

He's responding to himself. He's writing the same shit on all these different pages. They all have the same message. And then I followed the chain like a few dozen times until I gave up. But I just kept finding people, and I'd go to the other one, and it was the same thing. It was the same messages, all the same tweets. And I was like, I wonder how he has this automated.

It's a program. Is it? You think so? Oh, yeah, yeah. That's how spammers use it. When you say certain things, like if you say MagnaBox or whatever, you say Toshiba, you'll suddenly get, like, best Toshiba prices in town. Click here for more information.

A spam from Twitter, they'll do that? Yeah, there's robots that just sit there and look for certain keywords in the timelines they and stuff like that did you hear what do you about that the most the biggest russian spammer from a from a few years back is this huge russian spammer and russia told him like he was somehow operating within some basic rules so they couldn't go after him legally so they kept telling him to stop and he was like oh fuck you guys fuck you guys whatever he's making a shitload of money they found him beaten to death with a computer oh my god yeah you can like you can look that up but i was like all right motherfucker you forget where you're from we're in fucking russia here you know don't tell me fuck you you know we tell you to stop

you can't say fuck you in russia you better hide bitch beaten to death with his computer yeah they have totally different rules over there for how they deal with shit you can't just get away with stuff like that i wonder how they deal with hecklers i mean they have like russian stand-up comedy i don't know probably harshly i had a i had a funny story a stripper was telling me about um she had some russian stripper friends who she was stripping with. And some girl, something whack happened. Like she got in trouble for giving a handjob on the floor of the strip club or something like that.

So she's bawling in the room. And the Russian stripper goes up to the girl and goes, you want to cry? You fucking cry alone. Get out of here. Like that's just the fucking, that's just the Russian way. You fucking get your shit together. They're hard. Hard bitches. out of here like that's just the fucking that's just the russian way you know it's like yeah you fucking get your shit together they're hard hard bitches yeah i give three hand jobs at the same

time one with foot yeah stop crying and then i send money home to mother russia yeah yeah there's uh parts of the world that are cold and dark dude living over there that's why i have a few friends that have dated russian chicks and i always feel like like they're getting swindled i always feel like something weird's going on like there's something mercenary happening here they're so fucking hot though well this is a i know a guy who's russian who's gay for pay and his boyfriend he's straight but he's this this Russian guy and his boyfriend is this rich gay guy and this rich gay guy buys him nice Cars puts him up in a fat apartment. I mean really takes care of this guy and it's so that he has sex with him I don't know what they do. They blowjobs or whatever

I don't know how he rocks it, but the guy's straight and when I found out about him I'm like damn that motherfucker is like a Russian whore whore yeah he's like he's like a mercenary dude that's willing to suck this old guy's dick you get the feeling that there's some ferrari some kind of harshness of life in russia like even when you used to see fedor fight you know just the kind of calmness that he came out there when his imposing physical violence is about to come it's like whatever he's been through so much fucking scarier than the giant that he's about to fight on the other side of the ring that i mean you get that feeling from from everybody not everybody but a lot of the people over there like life is so harsh that what what you think would be intimidating

just fuck yeah they're not really that concerned with fights. Yeah. Just a fight? Okay. Let's do it. Easy. Did you see his last fight with Pedro Hizzo? I didn't. No, I missed that one. Dude.

It was brutal. It was brutal. It's almost too bad that he's retiring now because his stand-up, since he started going to Holland, his stand-up has really improved a lot. It got a lot better. He threw some pretty high level shit at pedro hiso first of all he had pedro staggered just from the speed he's really fast yeah for a heavyweight because he's not a big heavyweight he's like 230 but with a high

percentage of body fat if you had him lean he would probably be about 205 something like that and so he moves like a 205 pounder. A really fast 205 pounder. His brother was fast as fuck, too. Good hands, too. Brother's a lot bigger, though. But he lit Pedro Hizzo up, man. He hit him with a leg kick, and then he faked the leg kick and threw like a Superman hook and cracked him on the jaw

and then just unloaded on him on the ground. It's hard to watch, man, because Pedro Hizzo is one of those dudes that's been around for a long time yeah if you watched a highlight reel of all the times pedro hiso's had his life turned out it's really hard to watch yeah you know the gilbert ivel fight the you know the josh barnett fight there's a lot of fights over and over again where pedro hiso has been really hit hard really scary knockouts i mean how many can a man endure it's that's where it begs the question i don't know i don't know that's that's uh i think a lot of money and a lot of science is trying to figure that out with these concussions that they're trying to explore if they can figure out how to fix that that'll change the

prize fighting world totally yeah no people don't have to worry about brain damage anymore if they can just sort of stick a needle inside your ear and inject some stem cells and your brain rejuvenates itself people would just do extra shots though to get smarter they'd be like fuck yeah fuck alpha brain yeah i'm gonna take a chance i'm overgrowing my head but what if that backfired and turned autistic or something be a little scary yeah i wonder if they're going to be able to eventually figure out a way to regenerate brain cells because that's a real issue with people with head trauma it's just big parts of your brain just are not the same anymore after massive concussions especially if you've had multiple concussions and like football players and especially fighters in training that's the big one there's a guy who died recently uh in an unregulated mma

fight and he got triangled and tapped from the triangle and was no head trauma at all in the fight went back to his locker room and uh and was watching some fights, and then someone heard some moaning, and they looked over, and he had collapsed, and he wound up dying. And they brought him to the hospital, and when they did an autopsy on him, they found it was blunt force trauma from about a week ago. So it's something that he had sustained. Something they had trained. I'm pretty sure that's what they had designed. It wasn't from the fight.

They were pointing to something that had happened in training a week before. And then the adrenaline dehydration, a little bit of a blood restriction from the triangle. Travis Luter fought Marvin Eastman. Marvin Eastman had gotten knocked out twice in training. He got KO'd twice in training. And so when Travis connected with him, it wasn't even like the hardest punch in the world. It was weird. It caught him on the end of a punch and Marvin just

went completely unconscious, like instantly. It was like, whoa. It was one of those weird ones. Like, what's going on there? Same thing with Forrest Griffin. When he fought Anderson Silva, he had been knocked out twice in training too. That's crazy. Those guys are crazy. That's crazy.

You're getting KO'd twice and then you're gonna get ko'd again i mean it's but you know you sign up for a fight you know you sign up this is what you're supposed to be doing and you know if you get ko'd in training man that's just tough shit you just you just suck it up and you get out there and fight it's a fine line between having to believe that you're gonna win no matter what and then also being realistic and being like yeah i should probably bail on this well very few guys know when to bail that's the hardest part the hardest part is knowing when to walk away and everybody wants to walk away with a win you know the hardest part is like figuring out what the fuck to do with your life next because when a guy is trying to be a fighter

he really doesn't have a whole lot of options. I mean, you're doing one thing, you know, and while you're doing that one thing, that's all you can concentrate on. It's going to be your whole life, period. And then all of a sudden, it's not your life anymore. Now you've got to find something else. You've also got to match that excitement level. Impossible. I mean, how are you going to do that?

This is the most amazing spectacle on the earth, you know, you versus another man while millions watch and, millions watch and the triumph and all those emotions. I mean, you'll never be able to duplicate that. Yeah, it's almost impossible unless you become like some crazy downhill skier dudes where they drop you off of a helicopter. A helicopter, yeah. Those guys are out of their fucking minds. What is that?

How long ago did you do this recent trip? Was it months ago or weeks ago? It was like two weeks ago. I talked to Bob about it already. Yeah, they don't have it up yet. Oh, they don't? They were asking me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Oh, I'll just tell you folks. We're doing a show Wednesday night. Nice house. 10 p.m. Main room. Big room. Tickets will be on the website.

Probably Ari. Does Ari have anything Wednesday night? I don't know. definitely me and definitely brian yeah we're gonna be in calgary this week too not me not you brian doesn't i don't go to canada you never take me to canada do you want to come to canada all right fella next time i go to vancouver you're coming um but we're doing the jack singer concert hall in calgary and first show sold out but we're doing a Jack Singer Concert Hall in Calgary. And the first show sold out, but we're doing a second show. And that's almost sold out. But some tickets are available for the second show.

It's me, Duncan Trussell, and Ari Shaffir. And that's this Friday night. So it's about as close to Death Squad as you can get without Joey Diaz and Brian. But Joey Diaz is not going to make it to Canada. Canada has very strict laws about criminals. And when you got kidnapping with firearms. Yeah. No dice.

They're like, I know it was a long time ago, Joey. He's like, listen, I'm a different guy now. I got 11 cats. Come on. They won't let him in. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Canada. I can't bring Joeyey diaz but you

can always sneak in and hang out with us we're we're at the ice house all the time we've had a bunch of canadians and english people and people from all over the world come down and hang out at the ice house which is really cool because the ice house is one of the oldest clubs in the country it started in 1951 i, it's, was that right? 51 or 61? It's been 50 years, so I don't know. So that's not even,

whatever it is. I think it started off in the 50s and then in the 60s it became a comedy club. I think it was something else before that, like some sort of a jazz club

or something stupid. But either way, it's an amazing old club that's run by some really cool people. They have the nicest wait staff and it's an amazing old club that's run by some really cool people they have the nicest wait staff and it's in pasadena and we do shows there all the time so we'll be there this wednesday and do you have a show there friday i haven't decided yet oh see we're casual about that kind of shit but what we usually do is like last week we had oh yes i do

have simon we had greg fitzsimmons dom irera ari shafir it's that kind of lineup it's like all our friends that are in town we we have them come down you do have one i do have one friday at 10 p.m is it in the main room or the small room small room's pretty dope too yeah the small room is only like 85 seats it's like super intimate they have two rooms at the ice house but it's just like there's so much history in there like the other day uh i went in there with tommy chong and uh we we were we were there too cheech and i went in there with tommy chong and uh we we were we were there too cheech and chong with chong tommy yeah we cheech and chong with tommy chong we really did when you say you get high with tommy chong man that is cool as yeah

and uh we went in there and it's like you could feel when you're standing in that room when it's dark and there's no one on stage and there's no one in the room like you could feel the energy that's been transmitted in that building like that's that's a place where decades and decades of stand-up comedy has gone down so we're there uh this wednesday night and you can get tickets at icehousecomedy.com uh just click on the link for death squad it'll it probably isn't even up yet just call them and tell them you want in yeah they'll sell you a ticket they'll figure that out use your credit card you dirty bitches our shows in San Diego are amazing we had Jim Norton stopped in for one yeah and Norton didn't even want to go up I don't want to ruin his pay time he's so crazy

and like go up these fucking people would love to see you of course he went on stage they went crazy yeah American Comedy Code support that comedy club if you live in san diego it's amazing we're talking about maybe going once a month now doing a desk while down there or something yeah the club is the shit the american comedy club the company it's called the american comedy company and it's it's it's literally like the perfect setup you walk in low ceilings it's set up great what's what's the dude's name from san jose that uh oh um yeah that guy that guy and so william h macy there last night he did yeah he was talking right out front

the front door like i came out oh yeah he's there for that show yeah he was at a comic con for um what is this show did you see that he's got a show about a loser family yeah i can't remember it's hilarious uh breaking bad was also there though It's staying at the hotel next to the one I was staying at. The whole cast was there. Really? And then on the hotel we stayed at, Sons of Anarchy was in the whole entire thing. Yeah, when we pulled up, I had to ask them if I could park because there was a red carpet thing going on. Yeah.

I was like, is the valet still open? They're like, yeah. I'm like, okay. I'm going to sneak by the red carpet my car and park it it's weird it was like both things were going on at the same time yeah it was still actually a hotel and they you know still had this weird thing going on met beetlejuice too have you ever met that guy the guy with that really really tiny head that used to be from howard stern no i never met him wow that was interesting oh i did meet him at the airport once i met him at the airport in atlanta i

think with ari oh wait no i was there with you there yeah yeah yeah i never said anything to him we just saw him or something just tell him to talk to him yeah this time i talked to him got a picture with him i was like can i get a picture with you he goes you do what you gotta do i'm like all right cool san diego is a pretty fucking badass place live there except for the the military thing military weed and uh i don't know the hot blonde thing it's tons of blondes down there for some reason is that bad what the fuck is no no no i mean no no no i mean that's not a bad thing but i didn't notice it's really weird that there's a lot

of blonde people yeah i was looking around and it's like every single person has blonde hair it's to counteract mexico it's like it's just know, they're gravitated towards that area. They don't even know why. It's a gene pool balancing out situation. But yeah, San Diego is a fucking awesome town, man. I love it there. It's one of my favorite places to go. But it really is bizarre that they have like, La Jolla has these 30, 40, 50 million dollar

houses, giant estates overlooking the water, 20 minutes from Tijuana. Yeah. 20 minute drive to Tijuana. We had a bunch of Tijuana people who came to the show. I didn't know it was that easy to just drive over. I made the drive a few times. But if you live in Tijuana,

you could drive over to America and just see a show. Absolutely. Really? The line to get across the border is fucking serious. How would they keep you from just staying? I guess they don't. If you're a legal citizen.

I mean, eventually you're going to live. But you don't have to have a visa or anything. Just hop over. We met a lot of people from Tijuana. There was like five or six people at the show that came from Tijuana. They were fans of the podcast. It was weird. I was like, damn, you escaped.

You're here. Stay. Don't go back. Why are you going to go back? I like it down there. I wish we could damn, you escaped. You're here. Stay. Don't go back. Why are you going to go back? I like it down there. I wish we could live down there. It would be really. Do you want to?

Yeah. No, no. San Diego. Bold choice, Brian. I like that island. Coronado Island? Yeah. You just go on that island.

There's just people playing softball at this park. And you're just on this island. And it's just. Well, that island. The house is beautiful. The island is one of the most expensive pieces of real estate in the country i could tell yeah that island has some insane houses on it that uh that's where donald rumsfeld lives wow yeah it's fucking you can smell fire and brimstone as you drive over

the bridge a lot of rich industrialists and all sorts of uh fancy pants folks live on that island yeah i don't i don't know uh that's a that's a real rich spot san diego's got a lot of rich areas like la jolla la jolla is gorgeous that's uh where the comedy store is that's an amazing town beautiful man when we used to stay there i'd be like i would always figure like can i live here whenever we would do like comedy down there but like can i live here it's only two hours away why can't i live here like it just if you're lucky two hours yeah four and a half for me it took me four and a half to get to the show no doubt no doubt what should we talk about a little on it stuff before we wrap this up here yeah so latest uh latest news in the on it world we got uh the new alpha brain formula which is a just a slight tweak on the old alpha brain formula.

Basically, the acetylcholine mechanism remains exactly the same. You have the huperziocerata as the acetylcholine S-raise inhibitor, and you have alpha-GPC as the raw source of choline to raise your acetylcholine levels. And then for the dopamine mechanism, we're using L-tyrosine, which is the basic source amino acid for L-DOPA instead of mucuna pruriens. Much more research behind L-tyrosine, and it just seems to be a preferred ingredient for that. And instead of the supplemental GABA, we switch that out with L-theanine, which is actually why when you drink green tea, you don't get that kind of hyperactive feeling that you do from coffee necessarily, because green tea contains natural L-theanine, which is related to the GABA mechanism and kind of keeps you from getting too hyper. And that's, again, going to temper that kind of very,

a little bit manic effect of the mental speed and that kind of focus that you get from the acetylcholine. And then we added phosphatidylserine, which is a great ingredient. Got a couple of cool studies with phosphatidylserine. One was which was measuring the accuracy of people off of a golf tee driving towards a hole 135 yards away and found statistically significant improvement in a double-blind study for the people taking phosphatidylserine as far as hitting the ball straighter. And what they found is that it just helps reduce mental fatigue. It's a natural nutrient that's found in brain cell membranes. I'm going to use it to rape Dom Herrera in pool tonight.

Yes, you should. Max, by the way, Max Eberle, one of the best pool players, a great instructor, is just raving about AlphaBrain. Yeah, he sent me a text. He loves it as well. He loves phosphatidylserine as well. He's been using that for a long time. So he's super pumped about it.

Well, it's fascinating to me that this is a new frontier for a lot of folks. A lot of people aren't really aware that there are a bunch of different nutrients that have shown that they have a positive effect on your brain function. Absolutely, absolutely. And then I guess everything else remains the same. The AC-11, our proprietary antioxidant that comes from the rainforest herb cat's claw, that they concentrate some of the alkaloids and really help you kind of clear away some of your mental fog. And then the Bacopa and the B6 to help round out the formula. But getting just great

feedback on the new formula. Again, just a slight tweak for any of those who've been fans of the old AlphaBrain, but definitely just a little bit better on all fronts. And then we have the strong bone and joint formula, which we came out with, which is new, and that's focused around the mineral strontium. And New England Journal of Medicine study from 2004 showed that the people taking strontium ranolate had a 41% decrease fracture risk as far as developing the bone density. And that's because strontium is one of the key minerals along with calcium that's found in the bones. And a lot of our processed foods have eliminated the natural strontium content. So it's one of the theories why so many people are experiencing osteoporosis is because the natural strontium that generally comes from our foods,

we're not getting them anymore. You find them in more organic foods. And then there's also mineral deficiencies, right? Calcium as well. Yeah, general mineral deficiencies. And so we put a bunch of other trace minerals in there, put some pretty traditional things for your joints, MSM, glucosamine, hyaluronic acid,

and just make a kind of balanced formula with the ingredient strontium, which is best. And a lot of these studies do have it in conjunction with calcium. So we recommend taking, but you're not supposed to take them at the same time because they'll actually compete for absorption because they're such a similar molecule. So you take the strontium bone or your strontium supplement in the morning per se, and then take a calcium supplement at night. So great formula for people who are in kind of active sports or if you're getting up there in age or just want a better better general bone and joint strength

and flexibility and then uh some exciting new stuff coming out we got our hemp forest product which is fucking delicious like really good just very simple the best tasting protein powder i've ever had and it's the best for you the crazy thing is about how less i fart on that yeah totally it's incredible i do it with coconut water now c2o has this uh new version that uh brian's scared of he's scared of pulp goobers tastes like um like coconut like boby i love boby like a coconut just shot it a little in your mouth but it's uh the coconut with pulp in it. C2O is not a sponsor, but they're our friends. So them and Alienware, we talk about them just because they're cool and they hook us up.

Alienware hooked us up with some cool computers, and C2O keeps us hydrated. But I make shakes with the hemp force and C2O and it's fucking delicious and no gas. Yeah, that's it. I would make these fucking muscle milkshakes which taste so good but would burn holes in the seat of my car while I was farting on the way

to the gym. That's fun now. Why don't you have to fart. Why don't you want to fart? Farting's fun. There's a lot of issues with whey protein and digestion. I mean, if you aren't careful, it can create intestinal toxemia, which is like a sludge that builds up in your intestines and actually prevents the absorption of nutrients beyond that.

But it is a very balanced kind of protein. It's just really tough for the human body to kind of metabolize it. Whereas hemp, on the other hand, hemp hearts, two-thirds of that is made up of a compound called edestrin, which is already very commonly found in the human body. So there's virtually no allergy or digestion issues. Plus you got all the omega-3s and 6s, fatty acids in there, the GLA, just a super protein for you. All we did was add some cocoa, which is, again, another one of the original superfoods.

Got a bunch of good trace minerals, chromium, and a variety of other things, and maca as well. Long traditional use of maca being able to boost libido and also contain a bunch of nutrients that support the endocrine system and a little bit of stevia and uh it's got a fucking delicious drink that'll refuel you so i'm real good for you super healthy easy to digest like everything about it i love it's my new favorite all-time protein powder and no gas brother sorry about that brian and the beauty of stevia i love stevia yeah stevia

is interesting stuff if you could have too much of that stuff though if you try to put like a spoonful of in your coffee it's almost undrinkable it's so strong it's really strong agave and stevia though two favorites though well agave is not necessarily good for you i got it really yeah i always thought it was it sounds like herbal and shit like um have a little agave in my tea it's basically it's not too different simple sugar yeah yeah really simple sugar oh that's fucked up it tastes good you know look again moderation but stevia way better for your body yeah way better you just a little jazz of stevia but the stevia in uh hemp force is a it's a delicious combination the combination of the maca the cocoa the raw cocoa and the the hemp fiber all together oh it's good that's good it's

my favorite yeah i fucked that shit up man you gave me a tub of that stuff i killed that in two days yeah i was fucking drinking it all the time i had two in a row because they were so good yeah i but muscle milk's pretty goddamn good too but for me the the fart drop off is is really worth it but i feel like i can work out quicker too like i would um i like whey protein but um a lot of times when i would take it i would feel like a little slow for like an hour and a half because your stomach's got all that blood in there trying to deal with that shit. It doesn't absorb easily. It's not nearly as easily absorbed as plant-based protein, like hemp protein. If you're looking for another type of protein, too,

probably the second best, I think, is a combination of rice and pea protein. Together, they're a very complementary protein. Those are pretty good. They don't have the extra nutrients that hemp does or the adestrin that's part of the human body, but that's a pretty good one. Soy has a lot of issues, too. Plus, you don't get stoner cred.estrin that's part of the human body but that's a pretty good one soy has a lot of issues too plus you don't get stoner cred yeah you get straight stoner cred from eating hemp protein yeah when you show bitches your muscles shit came from hemp came from hemp and they had to bring it in from canada because we're too stupid to grow muscles like this i can't even

grow this shit here in america it's illegal how stupid are we yeah that's one of the really the most hurtful things about this retarded government mm-hmm no no hemp by the way Henry Ford made the first car at a hemp you know we talked about this in the podcast there's a video you can get online it's pretty dope have you ever seen it Brian yeah he hits it with a hammer so if you can he hits the fucking fenders with a hammer and the the this fiberglass that he's made out of hemp is so strong the hammer's just bouncing off of it prank prank i wanted to get a corvette let me just throw this out there see if anybody knows

how this could be done i wanted to get a corvette and then get the body panels made out of hemp how hard would that be to do would Would that be really hard to do? Somebody tell me. If it's... Didn't you ask that last week? Yeah, I did, but no one really fucking responded. They probably got too high. Anybody who knows how to do it is like, Dude, this is...

I have the resources that you seek, sir. If they really did know how to do it, they forgot to get back to me. But I just want to know, someone respond to me on Twitter if you know. Is there a way to do that? Because if there is a how to do it they forgot to get back to me but i just want to know is there someone respond to me on twitter if you know is there a way to do that because if there is a way to do that that would be badass i like that mustang better than i like that corvette yeah but i don't think you should get a red car shut up son i'm in love with this new mustang there's a new mustang shelby that's coming out it's got i think it's it's i think i said it wrong. I think, oh, yeah. It's 650 horsepower.

It's not 640. It's 650. 650 horsepower in a Mustang. I mean, it's hilarious. Three miles per gallon. No, it actually doesn't even have a gas guzzler tax because it's not naturally aspirated. It has a supercharger on it.

So it's a big-ass V8, but it's really efficient. And then on top of that, it's connected to a radical fucking supercharger that gives you this mad whine over the roar of the V8. But I'm in love with this car, man. This might be my next shit. I just wanted to look. I have a Mustang. I have a Shelby GT500 convertible.

I like, but I'm not really that cool with convertibles. There's too many variables. I've seen too many cars flip over on the highway and shit. I'm like, that doesn't seem like a smart thing. If you can have a metal roof, you probably should have a metal roof. But I love the idea of getting an American car that's a fun car. And if there's anything that America does right, it's make muscle cars. It's the last shit we do right when it comes to manufacturing.

And I just love the fact that these guys are really going for it, that they really have made a 650-fucking-horsepower Mustang. I mean, I almost feel like I'm obligated to buy something like this because they're so silly that they made it that's how i felt like about uh the corvette zr1 i felt the same way about that it's so silly that they made such a crazy car i feel like obligated because if i was a kid and i was like man if i you know if i saw something like that about it man if i had enough money i'd buy one of those that's what you should do you should buy one of those if you have enough

money i got one i got the Challenger. I love it. Yeah, Challenger's a dope car. It's, again, it's an American muscle car. They figured out how to make it right. They're fun to drive. They sound good.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They sound like they're alive. They have some fucking passion to them. Right, Brian? Mm-hmm. That's the last thing we do well. We do a lot of shit well. We have the best music.

We have the best comedy. Suck it if you disagree. Suck it yeah england has some good music and england has some good comedy but that's about it the rest of the world can suck my dick okay you know i mean japanese make a few pretty badass cars your comedy is ridiculous stop i know you invented martial arts but you know your comedy's gotta go out the window anything to say Brian before we wrap this up Brian did something yesterday it's not not good for his head and right now and I think I think when I smoked it a weed it just kicked it back in probably yeah I'm pretty pretty good

right now I'm Joe what what? settle the fuck down gross you're gross is that how you get gross? come here girl come here I felt vulnerable anything more? no that's it I've been super active on my blog

so if anybody wants to keep up with me warriorpoet.us and you have a podcast yeah I got a podcast just had a podcast with Mitch Schultz at DMT, The Spirit Molecule. It was a fucking really cool conversation. I keep them to about an hour. But that was really cool.

So check it out. You can see the links from warriorpoet.us. Nice, beautiful. All right, and we got several podcasts this week. Tomorrow we have Bobo from Finding Bigfoot. I am fucking very excited. Let's find that motherfucker already. Come on, people.

Well, if anybody's going to find it, Finding Bigfoot's going to find it. This James Bobo Faye, and he's a squatcher on Twitter, if you want to find him. And he's tomorrow. And I'm fucking psyched because I've been addicted to Bigfoot since I was a little kid. I can't tell you how many documentaries I've watched and books I've read. I've been fascinated. This guy's seen Sasquatch, allegedly. Did you see the South Park about this?

About Bigfoot? No. You should really watch it. I should really watch South Park about everything. So that's Tuesday. Wednesday we have Justin Halpern on the podcast. He's the guy who wrote Shit My Dad Says and he wrote the movie

and he's got a book called I Suck at Girls. It's his newest book and a very funny guy. So he'll be joining us then. Next week we got Honey Honey, Immortal Technique, Rob Wolf and Maynard Keenan. Oh my god, that's a huge week. Four days of chaos next week.

Yeah, the week after that, we got Time Rodes. We got a lot of shit happening, you dirty bitches. Jack Singer, Concert Hall this Friday night. Ari Shafir, me, Duncan Trussell. Come get your freak on, Calgary. There's still tickets available for the 10 p.m. show. Thank you to Onnit.com. Go to O-N-N-I onnit and if you want to buy

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Go get them. Go get yourself on a fucking workout program. We have all sorts of different, you can buy them in packages, all sorts of different packages for beginners and for people who are a bit more experienced. There's a hundred different fucking more videos on YouTube of different kettlebell techniques, and there's a lot of DVDs and stuff that's available as well. We're eventually going to make our own DVD. We're going to get on that. We'll probably talk about that as soon as we shut off this fucking podcast, okay? So we got to get to it.

All right. We love you guys. Much love, everybody. We will see you tomorrow. Thank you, everybody, for all the positive energy and all the positive tweets and all the cool motherfuckers that come out to these comedy shows. It's overwhelming. For sure, we have tapped into some sort of a vein of the coolest people on earth.

We hear from all you people that we are contributing to your people that we are contributing to your happiness and we are contributing to your positive energy and make no mistake about it we feel very obligated very connected and and and we we we're all a part of this thing we're all part of this thing together we're just the antenna and whatever the radio the thing that keeps it moving i ran out of cliches i'll see you fucking freaks tomorrow. Keep it in your pants. Unless you're going to use it.

Adios.