The Joe Rogan Experience - #2405 - Luis J Gomez & Big Jay Oakerson

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

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Joe Rogan podcast checking out The Joe Rogan experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night All day Yeah, well he's the nicest guy in the world That's part of the problem No, he's very sweet But it was like when they tell you the story of it

It was he was like at a comedy club once And like somebody in the audience made fun of him He's like I'm gonna go to a place where no one upsets anybody ever I'm gonna make a place like that and that was a comedy magic club still they would let us roll in there they did stop joey from doing shows there though did they really there's too many people that were like normal people that would come in when joey was opening for me joe you're eating her ass from behind you're doing the pigeon when your nose goes in her asshole like people are like no way they let uh tosh do

whatever you wanted i think yeah they'll they were and and when i when they asked me to do spots there like eventually when i went there i was like i kind of i don't know what i guess we're we weird spot for me to do if it's a clean club no they're like you could do your thing clean clubs are odd there used to be this place in uh mount vernon new york called uh the champagne comedy club it was like an all black room and the guy who ran it was like very christian very religious and he was like no motherfuckers he goes i don't want to hear no motherfuckers he goes you don't see that bitch had a big ass you see that woman had a wide behind like he had a whole speech he would give you before you would work there what you would say i've only tried to work

clean a few times I saw I used to open for Nate Bargotsie who was like super clean I mean one of the cleanest brilliant you don't even know that he's clean until somebody pointed out that's why he's phenomenal like Gaffigan like same thing as Gaffigan but he's even cleaner than Gaffigan Gaffigan will curse once in a while Nate he's never said a curse word on microphone

ever that's not true I don't think so no he's hammered one night New York Comedy Club he called a lady a cunt immediately we had to stop her boyfriend from attacking him he doesn't he is on was it on camera though no no oh i mean maybe like the in-house of the comedy club but man it was great what a great viral video that would be oh i wish that existed somewhere he was we took him to a corn concert he got obliterated and then that was i said where he like mr magood threw a mosh pit like i've

never seen somebody before i mean bodies flying all around him on a hill in mud and Nate just walked through do you remember the story at all it was family values tour i remember yeah yeah and he walks through and no one hit him at all and then he just looks at us and gives a thumbs up and then he he sees this big mussely guy next to him and he just goes eh and shoves that guy and then the guy shoved nate pretty much across the pit again and he just came back over to his laughing and smiling and then he demanded that we go to a spot in your comedy club he uh he was at skankfest one year we do you know josh an mire's goddamn comedy jam so and it's always very heavy metal at skankfest we all do like metal songs you know tony's singing system of a down j always does slip knot

And what song was it? Was it a, it was Slipknot, right? We were doing the wall of death. Oh, oh, no, no, no. It was break stuff, limp biscuit. Limbiscuit, yeah. So there's a breakdown where, like, the music kind of like is just playing, right?

And Jay starts a wall of death. If you've never been to a, like, a heavy metal concert, essentially the entire floor splits open, and it's just two, like, on both sides, two walls of people just staring at each other, just ready. And then when the music drops, they all converge and just, like, kill each other.

There's great videos of it. Rob Dukes from Exodus has like one of the biggest ones Yeah, well of death, that's a great thing at a metal concert. So we did this at Skank Fest and Nate's never been to a metal concert so he's just hammered

this when he was drinking. He's just like bopping around like in the middle of it. Everyone splits. He's staying in the middle and I'm, you know, I'm doing the song so I'm going at one point off microphone though I'm just trying to go, I'm like, I'm like, Nate.

I'm like, dude, you got to like, you know what? And he just keeps raising his beer. He's like, and I was like, and I was like, we couldn't interlude anymore the bass player's fingers were gonna start bleeding if he kept interluting so we had to get to the end of the song and then and then so I'm on microphone at that point I'm like Nate move Nate you got to move and he's just

like I'm good but I am moving man and we hit that a break break your fucking face this audience convergent and I remember just seeing Nate like I mean like they smash in and Nate went like this like you just saw him like pop up and go back down to the pile he was in there somewhere but yeah feeling no pain Yeah. Who started the Mosh Pit? That seems like one of the craziest elements in all of music. I'm going to give it to black people.

Agreed upon. We stole it. We stole it from them. We stole it from them. Jazz, rock, the Mosh Pit. Rock and roll for sure. It had to be punk rock, right? Probably 70s.

Like, uh, sex pistoles. I wish I knew. I remember I was dating a girl when I was 20, 21, and she was really into, like, these crazy bands and she went to this band and she was in a mosh pit and got a fucking concussion from a headbut and then came over to my apartment afterwards i'm like why are you doing that sex pistols hell yeah sex pistols what is funny the difference in like what like people that are like hardcore metal people would think of a band like corn or disturbed or bands like that where it's like those are the mosh pits more that i've been around in my life where there's almost like a the guy on

stage is even making it soft he's like if a brother falls down it's always like some kind of Valhalla speech if a brother falls you pick your brother up you don't stop ever and it's all about like you know pulling each other off the ground and banging into each other and walking in circles bump into each other i went to a small show at the the old knitting factory in manhattan for a band i forget what they were called but it was like they stopped the show because the mosh pit i was like watching from above but the mosh pit was like punch kick oh geez that's like hardcore shows hardcore shows are it's like fist fighting if you're a crazy person and you know how to And you just decide to go into a mosh pit because you could just start tuning up on people.

I don't think you're so here's what happens if there's videos that go viral all the time like if there are guys that do that they just try to hit people Those guys will typically get jumped by everybody in the mosh pit because you're supposed to be punching and kicking But you're not supposed to be actually targeting somebody with it if an accident happens. It happens but it's like So ridiculous. Yeah, but you'll see people get jumped. There'll be guys that are being dickheads in the mosh pit and then everyone will beat the shit out of them because they're not being violent the right way. I gotta tell you, it was maybe the funniest. What a weird agreement. The funniest concert experience I've ever had

was with Lewis at Pantera. We went to go see them. It was two times ago that we saw them. Yeah, that Madison Square Garden. Pantara's love? You were just, Lewis was just having, again, I'll always call Lewis to go to a few, he doesn't go to a lot of concerts with me, but like the nostalgic ones that'll hit him

he'll go to sometimes. So Pantera, who always want to bring his sister, and we go, and he goes, and he goes he's in a good mood he's feeling good and we're in our 40s so he's not looking to really get in the mosh bits or anything about now like and it's a generational thing like pantera when I first saw pantera live osfest 97 giant stadium the entire floor became a mosh pit and I was a kid it was the scariest thing I'd ever seen people started jumping over the rafters there's videos of this um like jumping oh okay he's got a weapon Jesus Christ he's in a flashback right now This is how your father got put down.

See, if you could find a video that... People started jumping over the barriers, like from above a giant stadium and just spilling into the floor. The entire floor turns into a mosh pit. I'm 13 years old, 14 years old. Imagine your work in security at that place. And, you know, you're just a kind of retired guy

who takes a security job. Oh, yeah. That's it. It's the worst. You have to go to the mosh pit. Pull people apart. You're 62. You know?

Hey, somebody get old Glenn from the front. We need more people on the pit. He used to work for, like, some Long Island police station. This is literally it, dude. Osfest 99. There's me. That's my sister. Osfest 99.

This is 97. This is 97. So it's weird, too, because they're just playing for the field. Like, everyone's just walking around. There's no seats. Oh, yeah, on the floor. Yeah, they're not. Like that doesn't look like there's any seats there anywhere

Looks like everybody's just kind of jammed in there The whole floor is standing room And then they're seating in the stands So you're a pussy if you're in the stands That's why these people in the stands are hopping the fence right now Yeah Bro there is zero security of this joint This is it look how far these guys are jumping too

Again this is probably like the second or third Oz Fest maybe Yeah it's early So it's like it was uh no one knew what to expect from this thing It was Fear Factory Marilyn Manson they tried to ban Marilyn Manson from this this was like a big controversy on MTV Why? Because he was the devil

Getting lost in those things Yeah I remember my ex-wife My ex-wife It's just the devil Started a big fire riot And when they were in Columbus I think it was that year So it could have been part of that

My ex-wife on one of our earliest Like dates I took her to Ozfest Lawn seats I was pretty proud that I got him for free And we were in the middle of lawn for Slip-Nut doing spit it out and got stuck in like a thing where they make everybody get on the ground

and you're locked in and then again the whole lawn turns into a crazy mosh. And if you're not like a metal head she's like she's a normal chick. She's like a comedy club waitress. She's not into Slipknot and devil music. So he brings her on a second date to this place

which is just... She was Latina. Yeah. And not super into Slipknot. She got into it though. It's a pretty exhilarating moment for her. But when we went to see Pantere at the garden, we were right near the mosh pit

and these two guys and like these two Mexican guys and two white guys like middle-aged white guys started getting into it and really like fighting like they were throwing punches the white guys had a kid with them and then Lewis went and like pulled like pulled people apart he like jumped in pretty early in it to pull him apart and be like I need to make sure justice is being served at all times when I see something whatever it is if there's not justice happening I'm going to jump in yeah as a self-hating Hispanic you were really rooting for those white guys white guys. But he put it apart, and then, I don't know, we could see, like, even though these guys got separated, you can see the Latino guys are fucking, they're plotting. They're not done yet. And, uh, and we're just kind of semi-observing it, but it really piqued Lewis's interest for some reason. And he did a, I mean, a mother of the neighborhood, like walks, did you walk the white guys over

or the Hispanic guys over? I don't remember who I did, but I walked them together. like arm like wrist hand and wrist like this goes come on guys this is enough we're gonna and i'm watching from a distance these guys beating each other's face again and louis be you know pantera's playing i just see louis be like come on it i'm like making them hold hands and like touching them hands i made them shake hands and i watched them reluctantly do it but it never changed louis came back with a real sense of like i did something good there but those guys never stopped glaring at each other the whole time they probably kill each other in the parking lot afterwards and then the guy

comes over to Lewis towards the end of the thing or maybe it was to me he just said it but like he came over and I was like ah you guys are all good and he goes what the fuck was that man

he's like those guys fucking started shit with us and then your friend made his shake hands with them they had no there was no beef squash whatsoever but Lewis but just the fact you went over there

and he made them shake hands they did it but at least even if you just make someone's shake hands it deescalates a little bit it definitely deescalates more than there's no out Yeah.

Because the problem with guys is when they don't feel like they have an out with dignity, they just keep talking shit and then they get themselves into a problem. There's an ego thing that happens where you're like, well, there has to be an end of this story. Exactly. And in my mind, when I'm angry, it has to be me beating your fucking ass. Or a guy comes in and makes you shake hands, and that's the end. And you avoid the violence. It's a logical end.

The problem we're having now, especially if we go to these metal shows, is Lewis had a, a gripe with a guy at a concert two concerts ago we went to a real thing he's like nightish nail he had night his nail he's like this fucking guy over here and then Lewis was having a hard time letting it go and then when it got push came to shove near each other

it's like security was come over he goes hey that guy's like a fan of yours I can't freak out anymore I do the I do Rogan and Kill Tony now people know who I am so I can't have public outbursts Lewis Lewis since we were since I was kind of almost like making us move

so Lewis would stop obsessing over like dealing with the guy because I got like me and Louis share a lot of similar traits in that way I'd do the same thing so I'm like we're going to move somewhere else and as we're moving Lewis goes up to the guy in his ear and starts whispering in the guy's ear and I'm watching the guy nod his head yes he's like yeah yeah yeah and then I'm they find I kind of get Lewis away and I go what did you say in his ear he goes a bunch of terrible awful things that I was going to him I go he was just nodding yes and then the security came over like 15 minutes later He was like, hey, that guy just went, you know, he's a fan.

He's a fan of yours and like, and the security knew us too. He was like, also, I love your guy's stuff too, but that guy, I think's also a fan. I lost a fan that day. That guy literally will never like my shit ever again. Yeah, he fucked up. Yeah. It's all right. It's also nine-ish males is such not a tough, like, it's not tough music.

It's like goth chick music. All of us had mescaro wring down our face having these fights. I'm going to punch you because my dad didn't care. What's the Did you go to a lot of concerts growing up? Yeah What kind of bands were you into there? Were they crazy shows?

I'm so much older than you guys So when I was in high school was the 80s So like the first band Ever went to see live Was the Jay Giles band Nice Yeah

Peter Wolfe Nah, nah No Of course Remember that? Yeah, of course He was huge back then And

And then I saw George Thorogood I saw George Thorogood With some other dude Oh Johnny Winter That's who it was The Albino dude That is ugly motherfuckers you went to go see. Oh, my God.

It was amazing. George Thorogood looks like fucking rusty from European vacation. Does he look like that now? Is that what you're saying? Now, I mean, he looks terrible. No, back to that he always, he always. That really is music for, like, ginger guys to fix a car and do this to George Thorogood. A Lukeman.

A 1989 song, it's what it is. It's like a great song from 81. That's what he was. The speech? There he was. Bad to the bone. The speech in the beginning of one bourbon, one shot, one beer, one my favorite thing. A look man.

Come down now. Yeah. So, yeah, I did see a bunch of concerts when I was in high school. Boston, Boston, I mean, it's a big city for shows. Yeah. But did you go as a kid? I feel, I never went. Well, I worked at a concert venue, too, for a while.

I worked at Great Woods. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I was security guard, and Great Woods was this performing, I think it's still around. Yeah, amphitheater. Yeah, it's like an amphitheater. And the problem with that place is, if anybody was talking on stage, you could only hear it underneath the thing. You couldn't hear it in the lawn. So, like, lyrics would bleed out into the lawn, like, or, you know, someone doing comedy would bleed out into the lawn.

It was a nightmare when comics performed there. Because you got tickets on the lawn. You couldn't understand what the fuck they were saying. It was just all this weird echo shit. I did comedy in front of Slipknot and corn there in the place. in that venue particularly. Did you really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I saw Dangerfield there when I was working there. I saw Bill Cosby there when I was working there. The Cosby, I wasn't paying attention, though. I had no intention to be a comedian after that guy. Well, I was 19 years old, and I just had no patience. I had no intentions of ever being a comedian. Well, he would do like three hours, right? Like, he would do like really, really long shows.

But it was the same, it was always the same act, right? Yeah, were they that long? Two and a half, I heard it was a... Yeah. He was there, I believe. I'm trying to remember. who else definitely I paid to see Kinnison there that was wild and then do you think people like Kinnison would have grown with the times no I think Kinnison he would have had to

sober up and if he sobered up I don't know if he'd be the same thing he's like the best example of a guy who was maybe the greatest and most influential comedian of all times for like a year like when he came there was a moment when he was talking about like Jesus on the cross you know I think his last words were oh not my left hand not my left hand you can help me if you get if you get a back of a hammer it was like a completely different kind of comedy the thing about homosexual necrophiliacs paying money to be with the freshest male customers you know going to the mortuaries and paying money that bit is fucking crazy it's so funny the bit about the starving kids in Africa like holy shit

shit man but it only lasted for a short window and then the stuff after that he was partying so much the material was not anywhere near as good it was all like the points weren't interesting but do you think he had it in him to evolve he would have had to fucking clean his act up I think I think what you're seeing is a guy first of all who develops this act over like 10 years before he gets before he makes it and when he makes it he's fucking good I mean he's like one of of the best ever. And then he has to come up with a whole new act in a year, but he's just doing Coke and he's partying

and he's hanging out with Bon Jovi. That's like what it's like with everybody. It's like everyone does their first, like, album or special, and it's like a collection of everything for a decade or 15 years. And then it's like you're supposed to reproduce that every year or two after that. Like Bill Barr and Louis C.K.

sort of created this standard of putting out a brand new hour every year or two, which is like almost... Ginger assholes. You heard it first. Where's my camera? You ginger asshole. It was almost unsustainable to like do it that way.

Go to the George Thoroughgood, you fucking rusty looking piece of shit. The thing is, it's like why do we care if that's what they want to do? Like, why don't we just do what we do? Why are we even comparing? Because when I show up back into another market a year later and I'm doing the same material, I feel like a fucking asshole. I do. Well, you probably should. But you also probably should just go at your own pace.

You know, some people want to think of a special as a special, like, this is the best shit that I've come up with over the last five years or whatever. Yeah. And some people want to think, like, no, it's just like keep releasing new comedy. But we all know that your comedy, your jokes get better when you keep tuning them up. Of course. Right? And I think it's a certain amount of a cooking process that they all need. Well, it'll just continue to get better.

I just filmed the special, and now I've been worked because it's not out yet, so I've still been working the material. And now you've got new tags. Oh, it's pissing me off. It's because of comfort. Oh, my God. The best tags. The best tags. And they're useless.

Always. That's because you're more comfortable now. Yeah. I said your best recording, who's said it recently? Your best recording of your hour is never going to be the hour you recorded. Right. It's not going to be that one. Yeah.

I remember when I did my last like material special, dog belly, it was like, man, really wish we could have gotten that 7 o'clock show on Friday in Buffalo. Buffalo helium just ate it up. That's the show where you were done. And I was like, this is it. this is the rhythm of it and this is the one. Yeah, it's like when there's something on the line and it's like ready record, it's just a different thing. It's just like you're doing like a live way crazy.

Yeah. But I did that because I was scared of it. How nerve-wracking was that? Oh, so weird. It was so much different. It was yours before or after Chris Rocks? After. All your favorite NBA players are back.

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canceled. Additional terms at dkNG.com slash audio. Limited time offer. So I think, when you're freaking out because he flogged his joke. Stolen from the black man. Write it down, Lewis. It wasn't my idea. I just want to say it was Netflix idea. Because he flubbed the line in his last bit,

which was like the line. I definitely treated it different than any other set He's like when I fresh the slap prints Shit Fuck me running Positions first positions Yeah it's a weird thing man To just just go ready live go to like millions of people

It's weird thing But I was in in my head I was like but why Why is it any different than a show Well it's all your mind fucking yourself So what would it prevent you from mind fucking yourself? Just go over your material with such a fine-tooth comb that when you get up on stage, you can be just loose and completely relaxed. You're not even thinking about where to go and how to do it.

You're just thinking about locking in and you're going to be live for an hour. And I was like, God, it's fucking terrifying. Let's see what that feels like. Did you fuck up anything that we don't know about? Nope. Felt exactly like a regular set. I did one set there Friday night that we filmed as well that didn't go live. And then the Saturday night one was completely live.

And it was, you know, I had already done the room. So I was relaxed. I got a feel for the room, you know, because of Friday night. It was a lot of fun. The show was great. And I was like, okay, we're ready. And then Saturday, just all day, going over material, watching recordings. I just saturated my brain so I could just be completely relaxed when I went out there.

So it was like 100% prepared as opposed to like a regular Tuesday night where you could just kind of go on stage. Like, you know, you know your acts. You know, you go on stage, you start opening up and getting into your bits, but you're not, like, meticulously dialed in. I told Netflix I would, that I would do it with crowdwork live. Oh, you totally should. And they, I mean, they were, they were very quick, no. No, no, they said the same thing. They responded.

They just. They're like, we don't want to get sued. I told Netflix I would do a feature film for them. They just didn't get back to me. Bro, they didn't have to see you one weekend. They'd be like, are you fucking? crazy no I'd love that but again almost like what you're saying though to me it's like I'm not I'm not saying that I wouldn't be nervous too I would be very nervous doing that and that would be kind

of the fun of it like being that amped up to do it yeah you'd see it also like especially with it being crowd work I was like you'd see it kind of unfold you know I mean like you kind of see like the the pacing and the build of it because I have to do it for an hour be interesting yeah and you got to that's one of the things like you have to be doing a lot of sets leading up to that too to be relaxed yeah They filmed, they secretly filmed, because I was filming on Saturday, and they filmed my Friday shows without telling me, and I fucking killed. And that was like the biggest, like, relief because Bobby Kelly directed it.

And he was like, dude, we got it. He was like, we got their shows like, well, I thought they were just testing the cameras. He just wanted to go home. He was like, dude, I think that's the one, dude, you don't need me anymore. Dude, we got it. Dude, it's perfect. All shit. Dude, you nailed it.

Looks like we're all set. Yeah. But that was, that way. Yeah, once you know you got it in the. canned and it's lifted off of your back what a weird fucking art form you know very strange don't those are dices cigarettes i know the unlit unlit he just have these cigarettes and he just breaks him and puts him in there jay just quit smoking cigarettes but he needs to smoke cigarettes on the podcast i asked i was like i was like how's come he's like i'm

gonna smoke now i was like i was like why he's like it's like it's like three hours dude and i was like the hours are going to exist whether we're on a podcast or not but other than that you would quit smoking yeah like stay loose though You know? When I came in, when we did the show last time, two times ago at the end of the show, I was like, I got to go smoke. And Jamie went, you can smoke in here. I went, oh, really?

He goes, yes. And then the last time we came in, I did smoke. And when it was done, call it like wearing lucky underwear or something. I was like, we had a good flip back and forth. We were all jihad. We made the Rogansphere. We did. We officially got on the Rogan sphere.

We've been repping hard out there in the streets. We tell everyone. I get my credits. I go from the bonfire, Legion of Skanks, and Most Neners. Notably, the Rogensphere. The Manosphere is a real subject. Like, people believe that it's real. That there's this, like, coalition of men, like, trying to convert young boys into the evil ways of being a man, the manosphere.

I think that's the same thing as the Rogan sphere. No, the Manosphere. It's like there's levels to it. Like, Andrew Tate's the highest level of the Manosphere. Of course. That's top G of the Manosphere. Of course. If you're, like, categorizing those things, the thing that you're most terrified. of is a guy like Andrew

Tate. I was never like stoked on that kind of like if I'm a young like Ukrainian girl. Yeah. I've never been to that kind of like the Maxim magazine Spike TV like energy of what they're like this is what guys want to see. A car crash and a girl with big tics and a bikini.

I had a Maxim magazine subscription of HM. The thing about it is yeah you're right but also it works. You know why try to reinvent the wheel? No, it definitely works. I pull myself out of that things. I was like, this isn't my, like, getting a Maxa Magazine, like, hometown chicks in their bikinis. I'm like, these girls would never talk to me. I just have too much self-loathing to be into it.

Dude, if you could make money. Here's fancy clothes. Well, I don't fit in those clothes. Like, everything was just like a bummer out of those magazines. So I would just get straight pornography. Yeah. And even though. You can get those girls. No. Well, sometimes I would, I'd always buy the three packs, and one of them would have to be like jugs or volumptuous magazine. Oh, then in the middle, there's always one with a bunch of gross checks or just straight trans but uh i always believe when i was young when i was young going through my dad's i found my dad's porn collection and there was a couple of weirdies in there like

a couple of trans or like uh local personal ads and as i got older and started buying the three packs i was like let's just believe that was the third one he didn't know what it was but then why'd you keep it yeah toss it dude did you see that don lemon got in trouble because he he said that Megan Kelly looks trans It's just a strong jawline Please Google this to find If this is true or we'll be in trouble I don't want to get sued by Don Lemon

He said clockable Sora works in there What did he say? The word is clockable is what I said Clockable Just pull up the actual thing But people were saying Oh my God

Like he's actually using You Look Trans as an insult Do you know how crazy that is? She doesn't... Outspoken LGBTQ ally Don Lemon faces backlash after claiming Megyn Kelly looks trans. Oh, it blew up in his face, I see. Were you how funny that is?

Oh, didn't that happen with What's Your Name? AOC just, she called, she was making fun to somebody for being short, some other, like, dude. And now everyone's, like, trash in her because she was like, you can't make fun of short people. Hey, go back to that. Go back to that, what he said. It says, Lemon said he says,

thought Kelly looked chopped. He said, I think she looks trans. Lemon said. In response, Lemon's co-host wrapped up the show saying, let's end on that note. That's fantastic. Bro, that editor hates him. There's no way that editor doesn't hate him to say, let's end on that. Clockable's a hilarious thing to call a woman.

That is so crazy. But that's, well, also he's gay, right? So he doesn't know that Megan Kelly's hot. It's just dangerous, like, super smart lawyer hot. Is he Al-Kay? I don't follow anything. I don't know. He's like an out-gay guy.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, Dun Lemon's married to a guy. Black guy? I think he's married to a white guy. Yeah. You're not going to put a black guy on your butt. Jesus Christ. That's what they do.

Are you sure? That's what gay sex is. I don't know. This is probably the first Mrs. Permeated the Rogan sphere. Yeah. Gay sex. You think the Manosphere would know something about this, but...

So when I was a kid. When I was young, like, there was no online, obviously. And the first time I ever saw gay porn was a girl that I met at a comedy club. I met this lady at a comedy club. I was like 22, maybe. And we go back to her apartment in Long Island, and she goes, gay guys lived here before me. And I go, how do you know? And she goes, because they left a tape.

I go, a tape of what? She goes, it's a gay porn I go, shut up And she goes, do you want to see it? I go Okay, so she puts it on And it's these two guys And this guy pulls this guy Shorts down, it pushes him up against a tree

And just start sucking his cock And I'm like, I gotta get out of here That's how it always said That's enough for me, I already came I was like, I didn't know that that really happened You know what I mean? It was weird, right? The first time I was because I moved in New York City when I was 19

and you didn't really experience homosexuality until you're in a big city like that. And the first time I saw two guys like kissing, it looked like aliens. Like it was the craziest thing ever. And now we're so desensitized to it because everything in the media. Well, because porn, we were so desensitized

because so many people have seen porn. But like seeing gay porn when I was 20... I knew that they had sex. I didn't have a problem with that at all. But it was the shocking reality of watching a guy just another guy. And you're like, yo! It's jarring, no doubt.

I got to get out of here. Yeah, it's definitely jarred. Can I take this tape with me? I was like, that's disturbing. It was very disturbing. Yeah, I still, if anytime you see it, it's, it just looks wrong, looks like the wrong thing is happening. Oh, they shut it off.

Shut up, I can't. But they seem to have a fantastic time doing it. They seem to have a wonderful time. Some people like spicy food. Some people don't. You ever seen the movie Fright Night? Probably. The old, or 976 Evil, they were two like popular horror movies.

I think I remember Fright Night. The one that played Evil Ed is. best friend the kid's best friend uh when times got tough did gay porn man he got it was like really hardcore it was as jarring as like i said when like china did pornography you're like damn dude this guy was not in this world and then the girl from boy meets world does porn now aggressive black gang bang pornography gay porn no no no she's it's a girl oh which girl she was on later seasons of boy meets world i think maitland ward her name is uh she's how she just does porn but like like a lot of it in her butt well yeah yeah BBC thank you

it's an industry term Jesus Christ that's an industry term conversation took a dark turn big black cock nice good work dark turn we'll be right back after these messages yeah porn I still watch porn here and there but it's just gotten to the point where it just every time I watch it and I start jerking off I feel like this sense of like like like almost like if somebody was watching me right and how pathetic this would look yeah like you're like beating your dick like a monkey like somebody probably is watching you probably yeah there's probably someone's collecting information of you of how I jerk off yeah for either three your front facing camera

or through the camera on your on your computer good thing that in my facial recognition pictures are this take that picture all you want you're not gonna get in any doors with that we all kind of know it right like we know that the cameras are on but we still jerk off right in front of our computers you know what's He's weird. He's a piece of tape over it and I'm like, let them see. It's weird that porn is free, basically. Like, you just go on a website and you can watch it.

But also, they're still making it. Sort of. I think the studios are, like, almost barely making anything anymore. It's all, like, OnlyFans checked now. But even that. Like, just imagine, this is the thing. What I'm saying is nobody's seen it at all. Why are you making new ones?

Like, no, there's no way. There's enough supply for the... or demand, rather, for the supply. There's so much porn. Yeah. It's weird, though. I still will go back to, like, my favorites, though. I was just going to say, but also if you're pretty genre-specific, you will see them all eventually.

You've seen every... Jay's seen everything. If you're genre-specific, that's such a good quote. Well, Lobster Tube takes me through it alphabetically, you see, so... Yeah. AI porn is... Not AI porn. VR porn.

Oh, AI porn is coming, bro. Oh, Air porn is going to be able to have Art Bell having sex with... with, you know. Me? You. Finally. Yeah. Louis J. Gomez.

Well, they already did the, remember, it was not all the Taylor Swift getting like gang bang by the Kansas City Chiefs? Like the president's smacking her ass? They have not already? Oh, yeah. That was a, it was, they were very good AI pictures of Taylor and she was just like, in a crowd. Taylor, this guy knows her. There's guys, like, grabbing her ass.

First-hand basis. It was her, like, sitting on Trump's lap. And it was like, they were, like, actually really good. And then T-Tay, they took some pictures of. I call her Taitay. Nice. But no, I thought there were her getting, like, fucked by, like, the chiefs. But I think it was funny.

I believe she came out and was like, everyone, those aren't me. Which is, like, it's a funny acknowledgement to have to make. Guys, I didn't get gang banged by the Kansas City Chiefs. Well, you know, some 15-year-old girls in school and her friends are like, yeah, it was real. You really did get you get. You're like, you need Taylor to come out and say it, right? Hey, guys, it wasn't me. Everybody, that wasn't me.

But isn't it crazy that it's that good now? that you can't tell. I feel like you could tell. That's almost the thing. I don't think anymore, man. I think. I don't know why they can't figure. Remember the big tell is like fingers.

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My mom used to have an I Am Legend poster on a bedroom wall that I assume she masturbated to. And then you'd forget the name of the movie all the time. Not I Am. Oh, I'm sorry, not I Am Legend. I was thinking of Legends of the Fall. That's very different. It was Legends of the Fall.

But I do have a legend tattoo because I forget the name of the movie I Am Legend all the time. I think they're real close to AI being as normal looking as any 4K video. I don't think, I think they could just make it look. We're a couple of years away from it being like straight up. You could generate a whole movie. No, but what generation is going to be genuinely into like consuming and giving a shit about an AI made movie?

There's something about, there's something still about, didn't you even feel like, sometimes I'll go back and watch a little bit older movies and it's good. Like, thank God, like the thing, the movie, the thing. John Carpenter. Yeah. Thank God it was like practical effects time still and it wasn't just like because now you're just watching a video game

essentially. You can't go back and watch like if you try to watch Psycho now right compared to like it just it's not scary when Psycho came out people were vomiting in the movie theater and they were running out like freaking out you get used to whatever it is

like my son can't watch a movie from the 80s really he like he can't hold his attention like whatever so I think as the technology goes on and as we're doing more more AI content people are going to get used to it and that's what they're going to be used to consuming just like short videos everyone watches short 30 second one minute long clips now nobody really watches tv shows or movies i mean people are so watching movies i think it's just like

maybe as i'm saying we might be the dying breed of giving a shit about that at all somebody would be like yeah if you can get every star i love and to be in one movie i'll watch it even if it's fake i think you're definitely going to get people that accept that and you're going to be able to just generate it instantly with a prompt you know they're They're doing, they do Star Wars scenes that never happened with young Luke Skywalker now. Have you seen them? Yeah, yeah. You've seen them, right?

Yeah, Jimmy put one up just so he could look at it. It's fucking incredible. It looks better than the original Star Wars footage, right? Because that stuff wasn't in HD back then. And it looks exactly like young Luke Skywalker and in the exact same voice. Because they just take the voice from Luke Skywalker from the movies, regenerate it, and it could say anything you wanted to. It's better than, like, animated stuff. even been able to follow when they like do animated versions I think there's like an

animated predator movie coming out that I'll never watch yeah it's animated it's all just CGI weird stuff it's like that uncanny valley Rick Baker talked about that he's the guy that made the American werewolf in London yeah he made thriller too that the werewolf that's in the lobby that's what that's from and he said when you're seeing something and you know that it's real you know you know it's a physical thing he goes it just looks better like When you're creating everything with computers, your brain knows that. Your brain knows that's not really a dragon. That's not really a dragon.

But if you make something that actually looks like a dragon, it's going to be, even if it's darker and even if it's not as clear, it's going to be way more effective. Like the alien movies. It's like when I watch a movie and I know somebody in the movie, like it's a friend of mine acting, it's hard for me to suspend disbelief. Look at this. This is crazy. There's a scene that never happened in any of the Star Wars movies, and you can generate it with a prompt.

I guess I would watch it. Yeah, you'd watch it, dude. Especially if it was good. What a heartfelt speech I just gave to turn around immediately when I saw. I'd go, I'd watch a movie look like this. Yeah, look how good that looks. And the alien movies are a good example. Like, you'd go and see, like, Alien 1.

It's a dude in a suit, okay? And there's something about the way it moves that it looks like a real thing. But then if you get to like later movies, not necessarily even in the alien genre, but any genre where you have like CGI monsters running around, like, you know, the underworld series, like the were like CGI, it just doesn't...

No, it doesn't feel the same at all. You're just kind of accepting that this is happening. It doesn't look as fun. I think they had to use better like cinematography and tricks and salmon. They had to literally be perfect on everything in order to bring it to life. Whereas, like, now you can just computer generate anything.

They also, like, hid stuff, and it made it scary. Like, the American Werewolf in London, one of the scariest things about it is you don't see the full werewolf for longer than, like, a second at a time ever. You just see it right before it's attacking people. You see it right when it's at the bottom of the escalator. You don't get a lot of view until they're in the movie.

I think in Jaws, right? They don't show the shark until the end, like the very, like, end of the movie. see the shark is that true i think so yeah you know they show in the making i used to watch the making of michael jackson's thriller a lot and uh more than once so much i have a lot of fun rick baker was the fucking man rick baker himself uh he's in uh thriller he comes out of the mausoleum he's the zombie that comes out of the mausoleum the shark and jaws is total about four minutes of screen time with the first full appearance not occurring till one hour and 21 minutes

into the film that's great If you want to see something funny. It's all music. The tone is like, it's just all, the whole, the whole, everything's scary about Jaws is just the music. Wow. Spielberg. More Jules. The dinosaurs are down 15 minutes.

More Jew lies, of course, Spielberg. What did you say, Jamie? The dinosaurs and drift, the first Jurassic Park are only on screen for like 15 minutes total. That was the best CGI ever up until that point. Oh, that was crazy. It's still pretty good. Do you want to do you want to do them funny? Jamie, if you could bring up Michael Jackson filming like the, like, the,

audio while he's in like werewolf makeup of changing and they want him like scream you know he's growling it's like the pain of changing into a werewolf and they just keep going back and forth he's not officially a werewolf right he's a cat isn't it was like the official statement from the director yeah he's like a wear cat or whatever he's doing while he's changing they keep bouncing back from the sound booth to the actual video where it's like he's changed and then in the booth He's going, ow, yo-y! It's like Michael Jackson.

It's so goddamn funny. Heesh. Whoa. It's definitely. Music videos used to be the shit. When he said, get away, I jumped from the couch to a living. Shut away. Yeah, it scared a shit out of me.

Because also I'm like, Michael Jackson, my hero. Yeah, here. That's Rick Baker. Can you find the scene in the scene in thriller where he becomes a wear cat or whatever the fuck he is? Because it's not really a werewolf, right?

It's like something else. I think they officially came out and said it was like a cat-like creature. Yeah. I mean, it was such a good fucking video, man. Do you remember? It's earlier in this. It's...

How old were you guys when this came out? This was before your time, right? This would have came out like 88, maybe? Yeah, so you were a little kid. Oh, six? Yeah, I was in high school. I think it was when she's getting scared. I'm so sorry, I'm talking over.

No, no worries. It's right there when he's changing, yeah. What year is this, Jamie? 83. Yeah. 83. Oh, wow. Wow. Look at that thing.

Back up a little bit. Yeah, here. Yeah. And slate. Excellent. Wow. Yeah, it's in this Okay, we're going to do this metamorphosis on Michael Jackson

Rick Baker As we live and breathe He did these overlays on acetate First we had to paint out the rolling stone And all that It's just like does that exist still? Like how would they create this sort of like image To even do this anymore?

He's now got a wig on He would Full face foam rubber appliance We're going to have bladders and a little meck Yeah, this was actually kind of shitty. This was a shitty due to kids as Miley Cyrus punching her fucking pussy on the MTV Awards that one year. Did she punch her pussy? Oh, my God.

My daughter was right in the wheelhouse of being a Hannah Montana fan. And then one year we were watching the MTV Awards. She was like, Miley Cyrus would be in, and she came out Robin Thick, and she just kept, like, number one finger, and she keeps, like, ramming it in her snatch and shit. And I was like, oh, hey. And then I became a Miley Cyrus fan. And my daughter was not allowed to be a fan anymore.

Yeah, that was a, like, borderline good movie was a thriller. Yeah, man. Like, it's, like, 20 minutes. That scene, the transformation scene, when he turns around, his eyes look weird. So good. It's fucking amazing It's so funny

Michael Jackson is like The one guy who like It's basically confirmed that he fuck kids I don't think that's It's not confirmed No Is it not confirmed Hold on let's watch this

I'll definitely want to talk about it Get away It was heavy It was heavy for a kid It was heavy for a kid Oh, so she would have already run. She's screaming for so long. All right.

All array. Roel plays the girl. Fun fact. You got him screaming? Ola Ray, Fun fact, did Playboy, Full Bush. Wow.

Full bush. It's funny because this is so corny today. But back then, it was like legitimately good. We were like, wow, that looks so real. People are so dumb in the 80s. We were like, that looks so real. Oh, it did. That's such a great meme, too.

This whole scene where it goes from that to, like, him being a zombie. Fucking amazing, man. It was like a movie and a good one. And he's dancing. It's looking so cool. I know. We can't play the music. I really did think it was cool.

Did you find the screaming at all, Jamie? I'm sorry, man. So fucking. Just scoge up to where he becomes a zombie. Yeah. He's betrayed. her twice in this video by the way i know it's men they're a real problem and then the message of this is that the most famous dance ever yeah yeah it has to be i used to it from my great grandmother

selma eisenstein she didn't love it there's probably some sort of conspiracy but this part though i could still nail today there was more room in here jay please yeah if there was more room in here i want to see you do that part right to the Oh shit The thriller dance I always thought that By the way This is the story of this is

He betrays her twice In the movie He lures her out When he knows it's gonna be a full moon Turns no werewolf and hunts her It's bad to be a third time by the way No exactly She goes for it

In two seconds He goes hey what's going on She goes Oh I must be crazy And then he fools her yet again Third time This chick at this point She deserves whatever she gets

That's how the devil works Big Jay Yeah By the way Inconsistency He doesn't turn back into the zombie, he's now going to be the werewolf from the movie. Weird.

Yeah, it's a lot of different things. They threw a lot at you. And then Vincent Price. So he didn't fuck kids. So here's the thing. I don't know, it's confirmed, but I'll tell you what. This is why I'm saying that. This is why I'm saying that. You know, the doctor that went to jail for providing him with

that propofall, that doctor said that he was chemically castrated when he was young, which is why he kept that voice. Which also, it kind of makes when you look at his physique, right? Because he was, like, very slight. And if you look at his brothers,

they're all, like, way bigger guys. I don't know if the doctor's telling the truth, but if he was, that's not an unprecedented thing. They used to do that with opera singers. They used to do that with opera singers. It was called a castrata. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't think either that there's, like,

anal sex accusations on him or stuff like that. I think it's all, like, touching and sleeping together. It could be inappropriate behavior. First of all, he became famous when he was like six years old and became like the most famous person ever. Like, you're going to get fucked up. Yeah, it's like suspended. You see it happen with, you know, Britney Spears now.

And who else is the other one that's kind of going crazy? Oh, Ariana Grande. She's like, if you watch interviews with her now, she's going to be a wackadoodle, Michael Jackson, Britney Spears type in the future, guaranteed. She's like all like, she talks like a fairy. It's crazy. Well, I saw that one where with her,

with the other lady from Wicked were like talking and then there was a lesbian saying you guys are holding space and everyone's like the fuck you guys talking about who talks like this? It's fucking crazy.

Did you see a lady there was some like backlash because a lady made like a mock-up I guess the wicked playbill? Wicked is really good by the way The movie was great.

The movie's amazing Arianna Grande and that lady the other lady I forgot her name so talented. What's her name? Wow, you knew Ariana Grande. No, no, no, no.

Wow. Wow. Wildly inappropriate. I call her nose ring baldhead. Oh, that's her Indian name. Me? I call her nose ring bald hit. Oh my God.

But she, there was a, so the playbill for the movie or the show on Broadway is a silhouette of the Wicked Witch and I guess Glenda, like whispering in the ear, but like really covering the face, her own face. In the movie poster, it's clearly Ariana Grande, whispering to the ear of the lady who plays a nose ring baldhead. And then a lady made a mock-up of the movie poster as the playbill, so like shadowed out the witch and, you know, moved Ariana Grande's hand to, like, cover the face. And it got all this backlash because that lady was like, I'm a proud black woman. You cover my face in this thing. And she was like, no, I was just making it like that. And then she got all this backlash. And she, like, removed the post eventually.

Oh, boy. She had to, like, take it down for, like, a thing. She was, like, I just thought it was a fun mock-up to make the movie poster look like the playbill. And it's, like, once again, putting a black woman in the background. I don't know if that's what was going on there. Come on, nose ring baldhead. Well, here's the thing. This ain't the way you're supposed to act, nose-ring baldhead.

Everyone loves the movie. In order for you to act in that style as well as they did, you've got to be a little crazy. You're going to pretend you're a fucking witch and you're flying around destroying everything. everything and you're doing it really well you're probably a little kooky and if you want that talented you're going to get kooky and if you give kooky the reins to you know to do those kooky interviews where they're talking about holding space and like that was kind of like we grew up at a time where it's like you'd hear about like a director like coming in and like assaulting an actress in order to get the scene out of her like punch her in the face it's like all right

action and it's like steve mcqueen and steve mcqueen and steve mcqueen did that yeah that To whatever, the woman he was dating in that movie. There's a scene where she didn't know that he was going to hit her, and he'd just start smacking her around. And it's, what was her name, Ali McGraw? Oh, yeah. And I think they were dating at the time. And he smacks this shit out of her, like, for real, for real.

To get the shot? Yeah. And I don't think she knew. Look at this. She used to turn up in Celebrity Sloof magazine when I was younger. Big nips. Bro, he's really slapping her. This is real.

And so she's actually really freaking out because he just beat her in front of the cameras. This is acting. This is why I'm going to be on an actor. Was that in translated in Russia? It's like a famous scene like, uh, was like Russian. The little kid who's like crying on the porch. In Russia, in Russia is the story of triumph.

I was like, why do those slap sound fake? He got a Russian version of it with a dub sound too That sound was terrible It was like he hit a wooden box with a bat Jesus Christ But yeah he smacked the shit out of her for real in that scene There was a scene where I don't know what movie it was But there was a little kid who's crying on a porch

And the director told the kid that their Their parents were dead or something Maybe they told them that their pet was dead or whatever To get the kid crying But it's like that was great movie making I think that was real. Yeah, that's the Stanley Kubrick and, what's her name,

the one who played Wendy in The Shining. Was he ever naked in anything? Shelly Duvall? Shelly Duvall. No, no, nobody would want to see her naked. He would, like, be shitty to her to get her, like, all frazzled. Yeah, she talked about it famously in interviews. She didn't like it at all.

And she doesn't look back on it like, oh, we did, we had to get the movie. She was like, I think he's a bad person. Jesus Christ. Didn't she retire? She, like, was like, did a few more movies and, like, fuck this. Yeah, basically you could play olive oil or scared lady who lives in a tucked away winter hotel.

Yeah, I just saw her in something recently. Did she die recently? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's, yeah, she's like a crazy old woman now. Yeah, she was like, she was like, well, I'm missing a tooth. Oh, boy. Yeah, well, it's good. Poor women.

We just get better with age. Women fall apart. That business. It's like only a certain number of jobs for old ladies, and Faye Dunaway takes all of them. Why, isn't it interesting? I'm trying to think of, like, the most contemporary I could think of like change and seeing somebody go from like couldn't do no wrong gorgeous to like a lady now is Pam Anderson yeah no she's

doing a good job at it like Merrill Streep no no she's doing she's actually doing a great job but there was a like a out of the limelight for a while and then showing back up major difference in her looks right well she gave up on makeup well she but she you know she left the public spotlight like Kid Rock's girlfriend and then came back like a grandmother Age-appropriate Yeah, yeah I think they should be age-appropriate You see like Dolly Parton now

And she looks like just like She still looks like she's 35 years old Oh really? Yeah, it's crazy She's dressing like he's 30% No, of course But it's like she's like still stuck in this Like sort of like big hair

And makeup and like big fat titties And like She comes from fucking Way like 60s and shit Like a showmanship You're 104 years old Just get old already Well I think if you

The thing is if you're a woman And you A lot of Like the value that you bring to a conversation is that you're unbelievably beautiful like people are excited to talk to you and then whatever else you have to say is just a bonus on top of it but if you're really hot people just want to talk to you and then you get to a point in your life where that just stops so like your life's focus has been about being attractive looking great

you know being really fit looking hot so you walk in the room oh my god look at her she's a firecracker And then that just goes away And if your whole life is based on just that one thing And you don't pivot to something else Like, okay, let's just find a hobby Let's just find some other Let's just try not to be hot at 80 You know?

Did you see the substance? That's kind of the substance That was great. Great movie, man. But it's so funny like You know, whatever the message of the movie was What got me was like by the end of it Like she wasn't bad looking at all

You know, she looked really great for her age but still just didn't want that at all. There's a few ladies who age gracefully. Like Julia Roberts is aging gracefully. Yeah, I haven't seen her in a minute. Merrill Streep, she aged gracefully. It's just. Helen Mirren.

But then you look over at Chris Kardashian or what do you call her? No. Yeah, Chris Kardashian. They're getting like, well, apparently there's a new surgery that fixes your shitty surgery in Hollywood. So she looks good again. That's what they did to her. I think she looks like good, right, Chris Jenner?

Yes. And that's a big change. And everybody's freaking out. Oh, my God, she got a new head. And all these other ladies want a new head too. Yeah, of course. Have you seen the difference? I haven't seen this one, but now have the daughters.

Like, if you watch like a young Kendall Jenner compared to. No, no, no, no, no. This one's crazy. She looks new head. She looks like a sister. She's got a new head. Kelly Osborne. Kelly Osborne has a new head.

Kelly Osborne is a new human being because I just saw an interview with her after her dad died. Yeah. She's like literally. Just like a hot chick now. She was a frumpy, square body British chick your whole life. She looked like you. I thought she was cute. I thought she was a little cuter than you.

I thought I could get her. But yeah, she looks like a totally new human being. Yeah, completely new. What were you looking up? Chris Jenner. Chris Jenner. She's, I want to know how old she is as well. So when you look at those kind of results, you're like, okay, now I get it.

I get it because before I was like you guys have to perfect this before you turn everybody into a lizard yeah you're doing a weird thing so like this is what she looks like now you looks great what are you talking about this can't be real I have no first of all I want to know who took this picture and where did you get your camera what filters are using is that a filterless photo because that's insane yeah she looks great she looks insanely good yeah how old is she a thousand years years old 69 69 toy see like that's incredible whatever that doctor did yeah if you're that rich you know what's that weird the average the average person can't afford this type of surgery captain blue collar settle down now they're doing the fuck down we're working

with science here not equity how about the chicks they're taking the chicks taking the pads out of their cheeks oh jesus don't do that ladies yeah the crazy look what is it called crazy idea. Buckle fat. What is it called? I think so. Buckle, yeah. It's just,

it sounds like something so scary to do. God damn it. Yeah. It takes fucking shit out of your face. See, like, but most plastic surgeries

say, oh, that doesn't look better. But with Chris Jenner, that looks better. I think this is a specific thing that's happened. There's some new surgery that's like correcting

shitty surgery. And a few people you can see are weirdly looking better now. Maybe Nicole Kidman got fixed up a little bit. Yeah, bro. Who knows what they're doing? Dude, I'm going to get fucking fake abs.

If you've got those, the ab implants? I've always said, I crowdsourced it. My audience will pay for it. I'll get a fat ass. Most of what they're doing is they're sucking out the fat in between the ab muscles to make them like look like. Oh, really? It's lipos around the app. People are actual implants.

No, what it really actually is is fat rolls. They just fucking. Right? Sort of, right? No, no. Some people can get implants. Like there's that one guy that did his whole body like a Ken doll. Do you know about that guy?

Oh, he's had like a ton of implants all over his shoulders and his, he looks crazy, like legitimately crazy. I think maybe some people are doing with their abs. What a lot of people are doing is just a liposection sculpture. Etching, that's what they call it. It's so funny. There's like, oh, you get all these things now for like, because women have had like spanks forever and like just body shaping like things to wear under their clothes. And they'll like, they'll advertise them for dudes. I don't know if I could wear like spanks to suck in my body.

I cannot possibly dream of a situation taking my clothes off in front of a woman and her having to watch me like spill out of a shirt on my like with every like inch I take off like things just like start expanding so I got like I'm a vacuum sealed I have really bad posture right and there's a few things that I've gotten to help on my posture one of them is like a thing that you stick to your back and if you lean down a little bit it buzzes and you you correct yourself like it like a dog yeah like a dog but another one that I had was a harness a harness it It essentially... Oh my god, it's all like a dog stuff. It's... I go up to a run-around back and then I can zoom all around with no fear of getting hit by a car. He's got a fucking collar that doesn't let him leave his yard. Zapp. Every time I slouch, I get shocked.

No, there's a harness that you wear and it pulls your shoulders back like this, right? I've seen that. Yeah, yeah. But I got that and I was like, this one is actually pretty good because it corrects your posture naturally. And I remember I went on a date with a girl and I hugged her and she goes, are you wearing her bra? a bra. And I was like, oh, I'd rather have shitty posture than be accusive wearing a bra by a woman. Are you wearing a harness?

Are you wearing a bra? Did you break off of a school trip where you were connected to other kids? Oh, my God. Yeah. Just guys, there's nothing. It's like being bald and wearing a hat. Like girls don't, they'd rather usually be bald. Women don't want an unconfident man.

Like, men don't really give a shit about. women's confidence as much, I guess. But does a hat reek of lack of confidence? If you're a bald guy who wears a hat all the time? Yeah, but a hack is a look, I think, almost. Yeah, but the hat also, as a bald guy, a hat will cover up your baldness. I used to wear a hat in the beginning because I was going bald when I was like 19. I started to say wearing a hat because you're going bald, like starting to see the pattern of,

but if you shave your head down, a hat's just like a look. Right, right. If you shave your head down, if you already have a shaved head. But wearing it to hide, like, receding hair. Yeah, when I was like 19. I started going bald that I would wear a hat all the time, all the time, before I started shaving my head down. I've seen that before. Somebody who wears a hat is like their look, and then one day they take it off me like fucking riff-raff from Rocky Horror.

Apparently there's a new drug. Where's the drug developed? Was it Taiwan? There's some country developed a drug that's regrowing hair. Like they put it on bald mice in the demonstrator. You could put it on like a square area. Let's do it, Joe. his body. I think I like being bald and even if it grew back I'd keep it super short I'd just keep it stubble

let's see 20 days it grows it back 20 days raising questions about what finding means for the treatment of human baldness but if I had a fucked up looking head

like if I had a flat head I definitely want some hair back there look you go back that article for a second there's a certain look that doesn't work with a seen that crazy look they grew like a square

What part do you want to see? What did you see with something? So. Oh, it's a doctor. That's what it was. This guy may have figured out how to regrow hair in people's life. And still as Americans, we can't just, we're not going to learn Dr. Sung-Yan. We have to call him Jerry.

They call him Jerry. It's American. Sung-gong? What? Oh, Jerry. Jerry. Yeah, he solved balls. Learn his name.

Yeah, that is funny. Yeah, I would, uh, I just look better bald. When I had hair, it was like kind of nappy and kinky and fucking, yeah, it wasn't good. You'd like to try again, though. I mean, for the, for the, just for the story and the hilarity of growing my hair back, that's fucking... Look how hilariously handsome I look. It's... No, look at the bit.

Guys, ha ha ha! Oh my god. Guys, I put carrots. in it. Isn't that funny? It shimmers in the light. You can get a mohawk spike it up with wax. I try to do a mohawk. It'd be fun to have options. In the sixth grade, I tried to do a mohawk. I did two gay haircut cuts in the sixth grade. My mom

was in hairdressing school, so she didn't know how to cut hair yet. She was just like practicing on me. And the one was a mohawk that went like it was just not straight, like down the side of my head like this. And then the other one was remember Tong Po, how he had like the braid in the back of his head. Yuri Prohasa had like that for a while.

Yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I dear he had that. Yeah. So I saw that. I was like, dude, that's really cool. I was like, what I want to do, though, because my hair was, like, long. I was like, I want to have the braid in the front like that, like long. That was the idea.

And in my mind, though, eventually I would go long enough that I would attach like a sword. A blade to it. Oh, my God. Oh, no, no. Like a weapon would be my head. I'm Louis J. Gomez. The J is for flying guillotine. And I remember I had my mom shave my head down except for this one spot.

And then it, uh, my hair, it wasn't really. long enough to braid and it was very poofy so my hair was just a poof ball right on the front of my head like this because you were going to grow your tongue poe thing i was going to grow my tongue poe thing and the first i showed up in the sixth grade and this kid paul tamanti was like bro your hair is gay and you're not going to be a part of the lu tang clan i just started punching him because there was nothing else i could do because i knew he was 100% right and uh nice loof ahead dick face how much time did you give yourself to grow something long enough where you could actually use it as a weapon rather than just scrape across your forehead

because it's got to grow. If you're going to really make and you're going to put a blade on the end of it. I was in the sixth grade. In my mind, by the time I got to the 10th grade, it would be perfect blade height. Wow, dude, that's patience. Were you going to train with it,

or were you just going to, like, hope that when time comes, you know how to cut people with it. You don't need a train for something like that. Do I just hook it up and let it fly. It's in your jeans, bro. I used to doodle characters, and I used to doodle myself. You know, Rizzits of karate classes? Asian superhero with fucking.

A blade, Braid. You didn't Ghost Face Killet took lessons? No, dude. He just lived it. Those kung fu movies when I was a kid, like we used to go to Chinatown and watch kung fu movies. There was kung fu theaters where you could go watch them. And it was the, like, those kind of movies are the most unrealistic fight movies in the

history of fight movies. Dancing. Weird how they decided that that was going to be like a fight in a movie. But that doesn't look like any kind of fight in any real situation, like a mosh Pitt at a Pantera show that turns it. That's what a fight looks like. Yeah, but it was like, Bruce Lee was like applicable. Yeah, but Bruce Lee was very different than those Chinese kung fu movies.

Bruce Lee was just a martial artist fucking people up. Those Chinese kung fu movies, it was like, hop, hop, ha, hey, ha! It was like... Well, it's just starting in positions. Yeah. Why would you even start like that ever? You would convince yourself that you could beat up five guys at once.

You'd be like, all right, I got it. I just have to make sure that I have... Oh, your stance was everything, dude. When Tekken came out, you were like, oh, if I ever ever getting a street fight from now, I'm going full Eddie Gordo. I don't have any kind of flying kicks or anything, but I'm definitely going to do a lot of hands down by my side dancing. Yeah, but no way.

But there's like a weird tongue-in-cheek aspect to Chinese kung fu-movies. Like, they're kind of serious, but kind of not, because everybody knows it wouldn't really work like that. You know, they're the only ones that had that. Like, all other, like, you never see, like, a Western with, like, a kind of a corny, choreographed fight scene between guys in a bar. They didn't get fighting in movies until-India does it a lot. Until recently, they didn't really nail fighting in movies, right?

Because, like, boxing movies, even to this day, it really doesn't look real. I tell you who did it well is Daniel DeLewis in that movie The Fighter. He did it well. He did it well. And he actually trained as a boxer for a full year before the film, like obsessed. The fight, not the fighter. Yeah, yeah, it's about the IRA guy that was in jail, that gets out of jail. What is it called?

Is that what it's called, Jamie? The fighter is, I think, that's the Mickey Ward one. Okay, which one is the Boxer? Is that what it's called? What's the Daniel DeLewis movie? Lincoln. Lincoln? It was Lincoln, you're thinking of it.

My left foot. Yeah. It is the boxer. Okay, so in the boxer, he plays his IRA guy. But it was an IRA guy, right? Either way, looks very realistic. Looks realistic. Like, the movement is real.

The hand speed is real. It's like they're really hitting each other. It looks like a guy who's actually boxing versus a choreograph bunch of movements. Yeah. You know, like, ugh, uh-oh-oh-oh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh.

It looks, like, legitimate. That's why I lost so much. Yeah, this is him in here. I model my game after clubber laying. Like, look how he throws punches, man. I mean, you would think that this dude actually knows how to box. I mean, this looks like an actual boxing match. Yeah, it looks good.

It looks good, man. And then you can, you can tell when a guy's, you know, throwing punches at full speed with the guy's technique, and he was sharp. Sylvester Stallone did train boxing, though, for Rocky, right? Yes, look, Sylvester Stallone knows how to box, sure, but this is different. The movie, though, which is not good boxing. This is much more like an actual boxer moves.

What Sylvester Stallone did was make it very exciting, right? And so it didn't have to be as realistic as it had to be just, like, spectacular footage to make, you know, Rocky win and all that good stuff. And it was fun. This is different, because this is like, this looks like an actual fight would look. Yeah, they did it. They did it good in, um, what's the, the MMA movie? Your favorite movie of the year? Warrior.

Roadhouse starring Connor McGregor. You love that. That's movie fighting. The first one was awesome. The first row, I didn't see the second roadhouse. I haven't seen the Connor McGregor one yet. It's terrible. I haven't seen it.

Oh, no. He just showed up as Connor McGregor on Coke every day. Can I explain something about this movie? Let me tell you the problem with this movie. You know the first film well, I guess. Yes. Oh, yeah. too, very well. It takes place in Missouri, where I believe this could happen. A weird old man

can take over the town with a monster truck and serve up his own brand of justice until you get Patrick Swayze to come to town and be the bouncer for the whole neighborhood. I bought that. Do you know the bad guy in this movie was like a mafia guy basically, shaking everybody down for money? Right. The problem, do you watch the new one? Yeah, yeah. The problem, do you remember, of the new one, It takes place in Key West Florida. And the big bad man is offering this lady triple market value to buy her shanty shithole bar because they're building a resort and will offer her the property a mile down the road.

That's who the bad guys are. That's what you're supposed to get behind him wanting to stop. Real estate developers. That's it? Legitimate real estate developers. That sounds like a good deal. And then quietly on the back and they go, oh, they're also bringing in drugs. Brugs. That has nothing to do with the real bar bouncer issue that Roadhouse is supposed to be

about. Yeah. It was so stupid. It was bad. And then Connor McGregor. How weird. Wonder why they made that choice. I don't know. Well, it was going to be Rhonda Rousey at first. Remember that? That was a long time ago, right? That was crazy. I think that was... If I showed up there was a female bouncer at a place, I would start a fight just to see what would happen. What is this? This is the fight scene? Oh, what are you going to do? Kick me out, Princess? What are you going to do? Hey, how about when you choke me out? Then you've got to get my fucking body out of here. Then what?

Princess? You call your princess? Ronda Rousey breaks your shoulder. The problem with me watching Jake Lillenhall and Connor McGregor in a fight scene is like, that's still, it's Connor McGregor. Yeah, yeah. You want me to suspend so much disbelief. Yeah.

You want me to think that Jake Gillenhall is going to fuck up, Connor McGregor? I believe that Connor McGregor would lose to Patrick Swayzey's Dalton. Well, pain don't know. He would have seen him coming a mile away, left boot. Oh, man, that movie was fun. It was a fun movie because it's so kooky. It's so like... He is now, he is now culpable of two three-finger throat-ripped deaths.

Twice he's done that now. That's his move. The improbable choice. How he gets them to leave that neck so exposed so he can think about it. And by the way, talked himself out of killing yet a third at the end of the film. That was the funniest thing. to have a guy pinned down on a couch and you're on top of him,

you'd assume the move is going to be the fist up in the air. He three fingers him up in there. He's threatening him with the claw. Doesn't do it, though. Also, the other suspension of disbelief, if you recall, is that the hardest fight he has is against the old man at the end. The old man gives him a good run.

Ben Gazara. It's so funny because it's rare in street fights you see people throw kicks, but when you see somebody throw an actual spinning kick in a street fight, It's the coolest thing ever Of the kick to take away the gun And now she's like

You're an animal, dude I feel like the kick into the water was unnecessary You already have his throat Now you gotta kick him in the water He's like I'm sorry I know I said I would never use the garden hoe again I promised The gardener The eagle claw

I mean that is a crazy Who wrote that into the script It's his move It takes his throat It's his finish It would be like, for somebody who like knows how to, like you really know how to fight, you could actually murder somebody with your bare hands. But I think about like for somebody who doesn't how to fight like me or Jay, how long it would take me to murder Big Jay with my bare hands. Just a lot of things like, why you're trying to choke me, I'd be like, eventually just being able to be like, I'm tired, I'm covered in blood.

Sweat. He won't fucking die. When I was a kid, I used to teach this guy who was a, who was a mob guy and whitey bulgers organized crime. organization wound up going to jail for murder and he was a guy used to he was like a fucking hit man and he would train at the same taekwondo school as me and I was I was teaching that guy private lessons and he was like well don't feel bad he wasn't killing him with tycoondo oh he definitely wasn't but he wanted to be able to he wanted to be able to he was getting tired of guns he goes if you were going to kill somebody by hitting

him where would you hit him and I was like I guess in the neck he's like yeah I was like okay I was like 16 Am I an accessory? Bro, I was like 16 years old I was like okay Is that where you would hit it to this day? Do you agree with 16 year old Joe Rogan? Is that where you hit them?

No, I don't know why I told them in the neck Probably because I didn't have a good answer I would say stomped their, I would say you knocked them unconscious And then stomped them to death Their head Yeah Yeah

If you wanted to kill somebody with your bare hands and feet That's the best way to- Choke them until Choke them unconscious And then keep choking And then keep choking I aim for the mythological spot Under the armpit

that shut you off like a light switch. Yeah. The chakra. Yeah. Soul sucker, I call it. You know, it's just any kind of like physical conflict is a weird thing. But I think the biggest problem with physical conflict is like most people have never done it. And they're scared of it and then they puffed their chest out and they act ridiculous.

I've done it a lot and I'm scared of it. I've never done it like trained or well. I mean, it's like street stuff and I'm still terrified of. How many guys talk themselves into a fucking terrible beating for no reason? It's just because they think they're in a movie or something. They think they have to say something back. Well, I mean, the street out here keeps World Star Hip Hop alive. Sixth Street.

And, I mean, it is. Yeah. I'll tell you what, I feel like it's a lucky thing down here that, like, thank God it's a lot of people who don't know how to fight. Those fights really don't go, like, people get knocked down shit all the time, but they're wild swings. That's the thing. Most people don't know how to fight, so that's sort of like the great equalizer. If everyone knew how to fight, nobody would be fighting. Well, I think it's the people that can don't find themselves getting in their situation or avoid those situations.

People, they're more respectful. They don't need to prove anything. It's also to learn how to do that. You've got to get your ass kicked a lot for many years. And you start to understand exactly how little you'd have to fight in the beginning. It's like open mic in comedy. You're like, oh, I suck. So there's no ego once you actually like go and train.

But yeah, I mean, the amount of people that like that know how to fight just typically there's just nothing to prove. Like, before I ever trained anything at all, it was like, in my mind, I was like, I had to be tough. And I had to, like, go prove that I was the toughest guy. Like, if I was in a bar, I'd like, dude, I could beat up anybody in this bar. I couldn't beat up anybody. I was a fat fucking, just a golf kid. But, like. But you also had to walk the New York streets by, you kind of have to fill yourself with some kind of like, I'm not the guy.

I'm not the guy that you go for. Or let you walk around looking terrifying. Well, you're a big dude. That helps. Yeah, I'm a big. Latino guy and I think that like that scare people off just a little attitude yeah good defense mechanism carry that you put that knife in your hair it's like a Labrador retriever that barks at you like bitch you ain't gonna bite me I know what you are I mean if he had a braid blade he would

fucking oh my god he'd stab yourself right in the neck it would whip around your head and stab you right in the neck be the first time doing it in your back no practice oh god get it Oh, God, I need your help. I need your help now. Hey, you tried to get the guy you were trying to kill me. I'm so sorry. You're right. I was beat a dick.

Get the knife out of my back. You were once foe. I don't consider you friends. My braid blade is stuck with my bag. My braid blade. Oh, God. Is it bad? Is it bad?

Is it bad? Oh, my God. My braid blade is so stupid. Yeah, that's so stupid. Yeah. Oh, God. Is it bad? Oh.

That's why kids can't vote Right That's why you don't let an eight-year-old vote He wants a Brayblade You have a preposterous plan, young man Your plan is preposterous I don't think they should let 18-year-old vote

I think you should have to be 45 And own property to vote I have old like slave rules in my mind Tell me this, what the fuck is going on in New York Are you guys about to really elect a communist Is that really what's happening? Which one's that? Zobran

Mondon Zohan He's a good rapper. Have you ever seen his rap work? Is he good? No, but he does do rap music. I heard he did a lot of different things. He had a bunch of various accents. Oh, have you heard of his rap music? He's going to win. So crazy. We live in New Jersey, dude.

Stavros is helping him. Is Stavro's going to make sure it happens? Hey, but here's the thing, man, like every time something new happens, whether it's some new person that comes in that bucks the system, that's good. That's good. The system needs to get tested. If you're mad because a communist. won or is going to win as the mayor of New York City. Well, clearly you didn't do your job opposing side. Because, like, you don't have the right guy. Nobody's interested in what you have to say.

They don't feel like you're representing the people. Someone fucked up. Cuomo's no good? They pushed him out. They pushed Cuomo out. And this guy won the Democratic primary. Is that what Corinne was running for? Mayor, yeah.

They pushed him out as a governor, right? And so after they pushed him out as a governor, Hocchel takes off and now he's running for mayor. And when he's running for mayor, he lost in the primary to Mom Donnie. But then he kept running. I guess as an independent, is he as an independent now? If you say on the microphone, Joe, vote Corinne Fisher. We will know the mayor of New York.

Oh, Corinne Fisher, the comedian? Yeah, she pulled out of the race. Oh, she did? But she was running for mayor of New York. Oh, that's right. That was a while back. We spent months making fun of it. It ruled.

It's who would want that job? Good Lord. Who would want to be Bill de Blas. Zio's next guy, you know? Like, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, it seems to be weird. Who wants that job? Everyone, half the city's gonna fucking hate you.

It's a living greasy manner. No matter what, you gotta hope something terroristic happens that brings its place together. Like 9-11 did. You know what's funny? Because I moved up to New York right after 9-11 because it was taking too long to drive there because the way they shut down, like, the time was nothing.

So, like, that's the time that I fucking moved. And it really was like a, fucking not like a scary place at the time but it definitely like you know Giuliani was divisive to people and then it was just

this guy's the best he's on Saturday Night Live and he's cutting ribbons and everyone it just became immediate love for him and that sort of happened immediate that didn't get like George W. Bush like a month

of the whole country was like yeah dude let's go get him yeah it really did bring everyone together like everyone loved because then it's like Giuliani went away from New York and then the next thing you know it's like I don't pay attention to politics stuff it's like Giuliani that clown piece of shit that everybody hates and look at his

shit running down his face and he's an asshole I thought we loved him because he didn't he like clean up here like no more prostitution and drugs were all out of time square and he did a fantastic job when he was the mayor if you look at it that way but the thing is he supported Trump and so everybody's like fuck him that's a loser he just forget what he did during 9-11 yeah people are so nice now it's like he let 9-11 happen but a lot of people will also like be Like, yeah, New York lost its soul after Giuliani. Like, even before Trump, like, a lot of people were hating on Giuliani. Because it was, like, a romanticism about New York being kind of, like, dangerous and, like, you know, it's like.

There's something to be said for that. But that's also like, hey, guess what? There's plenty of soul still in Brooklyn and the Bronx. Things move on. If the, the number one thing that you want to keep open forever and ever is peep shows. Like, hey, maybe you got bad priorities. You live through it, right? You saw the peep show.

You walked by the adult bookstore. Okay, that's over. Now that's going to be a Papa Johns. Right when I moved to New York City, it was days before 9-11. A week before 9-11, I started going to school in New York City, and I used to get off the bus at Port Authority, and there was all of those, it wasn't even like peep shows. It was just essentially porn at a booth.

You'd go in a booth, you put in a dollar. Oh, the buttons, like five buttons? Yeah, just sticky buttons. Dude, I used to go in and I used to just jerk off. That's crazy. In these, no, all the time, dude. No, I know a lot of people do this, but I... You'd put a dollar in, and then you'd get like three,

minutes and you'd have to like click through and just like you're clicking through porn now you'd have to find the porn you wanted to finish to put another dollar did you lean your back against the wall I'd sat down one time and I remember it was the seat was wet the seat was wet one time I sat on it and I convinced myself that my asshole sucked AIDS into my body yeah well yes stop wondering where you got it from that's the answer I had a friend of mine used to he used to be a crack addict and he used to go to those places and he would smoke crack and just jack off in the all day. He said he'd be in there for hours. And I was like, what the fuck? What is this crack? That is. I want to so crack that makes you so awesome. Dude, bro. When you hear, I can't get hard

at all. There's two people that talked about it where it makes you try it. Makes you want to try it. One of them is Hunter Biden. He talked about it on that, uh, I'm sorry. What was that show again? It was Channel 5, Andrew Callahan. Andrew Callahan, Channel 5. He did an interview with Biden. And Biden gives like a soliloquy about the virtues of it. of crack like how much he loved crack and like what the crack experience is like with the and it's so good like he's talking about it's he's so articulate it makes you want to try crack and then charlie sheen told me the first time he tried smoking crack at all this is in his documentary too i think either way a girl was giving yeah it was a girl was giving him a blow job while he

took his very first hit of crack and he said to this day nothing's ever topped it yeah i've always heard it's the exhale of crack is amazing the exhale and then you go we got to get crack we have to find more crack immediately guys you want to just do crack yeah it's crazy because it's one that I said probably would try probably would try you would try crack yeah that's insane probably I mean I'm not going to but you're going for the things you were like would you try that if you try I would try crack before I took LSD that's insane quicker that's actually insane it's quicker. LSC is an experience.

Right. That's hilarious. Yeah. What if you knew it's real, pure LSD? Like if you got it from a scientist. We dose J. with LSD. The only time he's done LSD was, do you know about this?

No. Terrible friends. So we had... How much the dose? Well... One hit of acid in his beer. So here's what happened. You didn't let him know at all?

Well, it wasn't my fault. Okay, hang on. Don't be so accusatory, Joe. You didn't watch the trial. of the century obviously you brought this up Lewis it's gonna make you look bad this is not this is not Rogan's fear behavior I will tell you what happened okay so we were having um we were having an election for the president of the legion of skanks I hate treat people in the sphere dude and ari shefeer was running against me jay and dave smith to be the president of our podcast

and obviously he won but he had uh Shane Gillis as his running mate this is before Shane blew up but Shane's always been fucking brilliant so we were doing these every week it was during the We're one of the only live experiences. Like, all the comedy clubs were closed out. We did our show outside. So people were coming out every week. They were super, super invested. And we had all these special guests on.

And every week it was just getting better and better. And it was the last episode. We were about to decide who the president was. We were deciding that day. And I, Ari had just dose Burt, like maybe a year before on his podcast. Was there a several years? So then I got a hit of acid from a kid in the audience. And I was like, I'm going to dose Ari.

Just some guy. Just some dude. He said it was a really good asses. So then I put it I put into Ari's beer, right? And then I was like, Ari's going to win whatever. Let's be hilarious. We're going to dose Ari on the podcast. So I told Shane, I was like, dude, this hilarious. We're going to dose Ari. Shane tells Ari. And then on the podcast, we went back and watched this because it's on camera. On the podcast, when Jay is not looking, Jay's like just pontificating or being funny or whatever, Ari switches beers with Big Jay and gives it a Jay. And then Jay starts drinking or whatever. Now Ari for the next hour starts to protect. tending to trip and he's like doing all this he's being all weird and me and my buddy are cackling laughing at him and then he let me give you my perspective of where we're at here in this part of the story I am not looking at Ari what I'm noticing is everybody else at the table is like talking amongst themselves David Tell was there too yeah he was talking

amongst themselves while I'm saying something and I'm like like I'm losing the people I'm doing a show with I'm like so I'm like blah and I start trailing off and I go I'm like guys like what's you know almost like off microphone I'm like what's what's going on why is it and Lewis leans over to me and goes uh I dosed Ari's beer with acid and I I went come on man I was like I go I don't want to do this stuff I don't want to get into the evolving to be fair to Jay his reaction was like that's not a good idea at all he was not on board with it never yeah I said let's not get involved in the dosing game Dave Smith also said the same thing and uh but damage was done and then I go all right well if you're going to do it to somebody dare I say

Ari's the person who deserves that to happen to him the most so I'm like all right well it's Ari at least and then and then they go so what we're laughing at is look at Ari so I finally go over at Ari and he is like you know like like like licking the microphone and like doing this stuff and then they pull a big reveal yeah I was like I was like I dose you Ari so I don't care if you win and then he's like doing this then he goes he was like oh really no no he goes he goes he goes He goes, oh, dude, really? Did you, you dose me at all this?

That's so not cool. He goes, did you did that? Or did I switch my beer with J's? Just completely. And then you see me literally on the camera go, nah, no, how did I get involved in this at all? And then they played the replay. You see Shane looks at the camera and says,

I'm sorry because he feels terrible that he didn't stop him. And then Jay, he had never taken acid. So Jay stayed up for 72 hours? 26 straight hours. 26 straight hours. straight hours all I was doing was and they go well did you have fun at least did you like watch something did the walls melt did like yeah have some kind of revelation I go I sat on my couch for 26 hours I went outside a few times and sat there thinking why would my friends

have done this to me that was my consuming why would my friends do this to me I wouldn't do this to them why would they do it to me you just caught a stray yeah you caught a stray in a righteous war like already deserved to get those to least once sure and And somehow he avoided it. Did you ever see the one where Ari was on, what pot, was he on Brian Red Band's podcast? I think it was Sam Tripoli's podcast. So it was like quite a while back, like 2010 or something like that. And they smoked Salvia on the podcast.

And Ari said that he lived a whole other life under the water for like six months. Like he had friends, he had a girlfriend, he had a job. and then the sal he lived a whole life and then he came back it was just a few minutes but whatever it was like that stuff was weird because you could just buy it at a head shop

and it was like one of the most potent psychedelics you could ever take yeah it was just unregulated for like a year so everyone was buying salvia and then bath salts the guy ate a guy's face I smoked salvia yeah but that guy probably had problems already my buddy Forrest brought home salvia from college

didn't tell me what it was we were just driving in my car with a bongs where I was at my life That's why I had a bong in the car. I got a car, but we can bring it from in that hell. I'm driving. He's like, dude, here, hit this. And I grabbed the bong and I'm driving, literally. And I go,

Oh no. And then he goes, put that down, because it was the copper cross street. And then I just, the word down, it like elongated and went like, groan. And then you saw the word. The word down, giant block letters crashed in front of the car. Like it was like, like stone letters, the word down. And I was like, I pulled over to the side of the road. And he was just laughing in my face.

And I was just laughing in my face. I was like, what the fuck was that? A minute, 30 seconds? Like, it was just so quick. But it was like super intense. Yeah, you don't do it while you're driving. I don't know. No.

Well, there was that video of the person jumping out of the window, right? That was, like, the famous, like, viral one where someone smokes out right way, they just go, uh, uh, and just, like, go out and just, like, go out. Oh, dude. I can't do a loser. But that's almost why I'm saying, like, crack, like, I would try that over, like, again, because I've only been dosed with LSD. It was 26 hours are just being bummed out. Cracks is way quicker. As I'm saying, to me.

It's almost like, I try things that are like, this will be done quick. Ketamine. That was the crazy thing about the Hunter Biden interview, is that he was saying that it's probably safer for you than alcohol. And he's pretty smart. That's what's uncomfortable about. He's clean now he's saying, though? Yeah. It probably is.

You know, allegedly. I mean, you know. I always say, believe that it's always a big thing. When someone gets off drugs, but they don't talk about it with like just the, I'm told to call it evil and say it was evil and have some, like, fun reflection on it. I think they're more prepared to stop for real. Yeah, that's true. Right, because they're being honest about it. They're like, hey, dude, they're like, you know, first couple months,

I may be never laughed harder than my life, you know, have, like, enjoyed it. And then it's like, but then I just, you know, my money's gone. My family's, like, like, a Colombian president or one of these. It was some, some country, like, the president was like, no, cocaine's safer than alcohol. And he was like straight up. And then, like, they did, like, a review on it it technically is. I think the real problem is the fentanyl stuff, the laced cocaine. You know, the stuff that's laced with stuff other than pure cocaine.

But that's the problem with an unregulated black market. If they made it legal in America and pharmaceutical drug company sold cocaine, you'd get, like, the best cocaine. You'd get pure cocaine. It's recreational from a pharmacy. I don't even think... We're going to Gonzales-I-Gonzalez pharmacy. I don't even know if you can grow it in America. Are there places in America that are capable of growing coca leaves?

I think he needs slaves. Yeah. Did you ever see that thing? There's a show called Trafficked with Mariana Van Zeller. There's this lady, she's an investigative journalist, and she does wild stories. Like, she went to the people in Columbia that are making the cocaine, and she interviewed all of them. They all wore masks and shit, and then she went with them out into the woods when they walked through the jungle to bring the cocaine to the dealers. And she was there with them for the whole process.

She's documenting it. What the fuck, man. Like, they're just using gasoline, just pouring gasoline on these coca leaves, and they're making them. And it's like, this is completely unregulated. This all could be done in a pharmaceutical drug studio where they have like laboratories and everybody's wearing hazmat suits and shit and they make perfect cocaine. This cocaine sounds awesome, Joe. Perfect cocaine.

It does sound like a long way to go for you guys to be able to dance like black people aren't watching. In the U.S., there is no widespread reports of commercial coca cultivation with the plant thrives best in conditions similar to those found in the Andean regions of South America, generally between 1,650 to 6,000 feet elevation with warm temperatures and abundant rainfall. Yeah, see, it's not a good plant for America. It's a South American plant. Yeah, we can grow weed here really well.

We figured that out. Yeah, but, you know, if it was legal, if it was legal, you'd get pure cocaine. That's what they're having. Fucking America sucks. It probably will be legal one day. It should be legal. Like, if you can't prove, this is what it should be.

We could prove it's killing more people. people that are having fun with it, let's make it illegal. If you can't do that, why is it illegal? Because you, well, because you shouldn't take it. Okay, then don't take it. But what if you want to take it? What if you could just take it once, then you're fine? And then you still, are we allowed to have some fucking freedom or not?

I don't know, we're going to be a nanny. There would be a couple years of people being, because you look at like weed. It's, you know, widespread legality of it now, right? Everyone's getting very high. The weed's gotten so strong, like it's like, well, there's that. The strength of it would be a concern. But I think there's also something to, I don't know, I've gone. back and forth in that I think it's when I had my daughter was like a teenager more I was

thinking when they talked about that like just legalize every drug which I hear the argument for too so I said I really don't know where I fall but like I also have a feeling like when I was younger I could have been got someone could have got me to try heroin as a teenager by simply laying out like I mean it's legal dude right well well the reality of drugs never that never stopped me from doing drugs I say it did weigh with me a lot of it was a fear of having anything on me have i tell you i got cocaine one time to bring to a girl it was a bag this big and i mean i thought i was walking around like marcellus wallace's fucking soul i mean it was i was like oh my god everyone's coming for this everyone knows they're gonna get me they're gonna get it from me

dude yeah no i uh yeah i would just assume the coke would be so good and it would just be like a couple years of everyone just being like really fucked up like you can't you can't go from it being like unregulated to just distributing it to everybody yeah for sure yeah it's gonna there's going to be a long period of adjustment but at least you're cutting out organized crime it's like that's what they had to do with alcohol so when alcohol prohibition was going on how many years was alcohol prohibition again put that put that in the perplexity two years it's my guess our sponsor four and a half years it's probably better we have an AI sponsor now that we ask questions too um how many years was a sexy woman we don't make it talk i don't want to i want to pretend that

a person and fall in love with it. 13 years. 13 years of alcohol prohibition. 13 years, daddy. 13 years. Baby, it was 13 years with no alcohol. So during that time, that's the rise of organized crime. That's the rise of Al Capone.

Like, that's the rise of all these different mobsters. That's all you could tie that back to the roots of organized crime getting money from alcohol. That's where NASCAR came from. It was like those guys are trying to get away from cops. So they made the best cars. That's really what it was. Is that what it was? Yes. The roots of NASCAR is they made those souped up cars to get the fuck away from cops because they were running moonshine.

Yeah. Damn. And that, they stopped that and then it came normal. And now it's Bud Light. Now you can go and get, you know, a bottle of makers. You can get, it's in a store. It's like regulated. Well, the legality never like, because I've tried almost every drug, but the legality of it never really got me.

But it's just the accessibility of it, right? Like, I might have, if weed was accessible as it is now, I might have tried weed way earlier than I did. I didn't start smoking weed until I was almost out of high school. But if it was just everywhere, it was great, and you knew where everything came from, you had to, like, go on a journey to find weed. Even when we'd go on the road back in the day,

we'd land in whatever new town. And I'd be like, Jay, I'll be back in an hour where I've got to go find weed. And I just ask every, like, skateboarder that I saw until somebody eventually... You look like a cop. If you're house skateboarder and you came up to me, I'd be like, get the fuck out of here, pig.

Fuck you, man. It's so funny, though, podheads love getting each other high because that, back in the day, you'd literally just find somebody that looked like they liked weed. Especially if they're currently high. Yeah. Then they're more likely to be pliable. They'll go out of their whole way. Yeah, but they'll go out of their entire way to just go and hook you up with their guy. Oh, fuck yeah, bro.

Bring you to my friend Scott's house. Yeah. Next you know, you're hanging with Scott, listen to Slipknot. Tell them about your blade. The great mosh pit injury of 2011, first EP. But, yeah, if all drugs were accessible, I mean... The illegal, I think, would have drawn me to some things, and said, and accessible.

But I'd say it was funny, too, that you don't really have much of... But you definitely went through phases, I'm sure, in your life, because you started smoking younger than I did even. But, like, as much as I smoke... I consistently have smoked weeds since I started smoking, which was in it, you know, 20-some years ago. I made you a pot-head. Yeah, without a doubt.

But it is so funny, though, that I've still, to this day, don't have the... I'm faking it every time somebody comes to me and goes like, oh man, look at that right there. I always just go, okay. I don't mean it at all. When they start showing me purple things inside of it stuff, I always go, no shit. I don't care about strains. They're like, dude, it's an indica dominant hybrid.

It's 28%. I do care about that. I do care about it not just being a sativa because that'll just give me anxiety sometimes. But, like, besides that, and by the way, if I'm with a bunch of people and I don't ask what it is, if it's a tiva, we just smoke it. Yeah, ew, asking what it is. That's crazy. You're all hanging out in a barbecue. Well, here's why, because it's not going to...

Some guys pass into joint. You're like, wait, what is this? To me, I say sativa. Is this a hybrid? Smoking alone, a setiva, and like, if I'm just like in my hotel room or something, I might get a little, like, just panicky. It just still gets me, like, anxious. And it's just, like, health anxious stuff.

It's like, I'm probably having a heart attack. It's not like the world's coming down on me. It's really like, why's my heart racing so fast? That's probably my body shutting off, huh? If now imagine you smoke crack Then you feel real confident It goes away Yeah

Crack is the opposite of weed My heart will never stop beating His fucking whart He goes I gotta make sure my heart is still beating I'm gonna climb to the roof of this fucking place Yeah I don't think you should smoke crack

But I don't think people are gonna stop smoking crack And it's someone's making money off of it So it's like why should that money be made in an unregulated way where you don't know what you're getting and think people 100,000 people are dying every year because of that right 100,000 people are dying of opioid overdoses every year and if that's the case those 100,000 that's just the United States those 100,000 people like how many of them wouldn't die if they weren't getting fentanyl-laced stuff so is it worth 100 million or 100,000 people not dying to get

them pure cocaine from a laboratory and sell it to them, rather than them get it from the cartel and maybe die. Is it legal anywhere of Coke? It is, right? There's a couple like Portugal, like Portugal, all drugs are legal. Portugal, all drugs I think are, it's called decriminalize. Not supposed to sell them. Not supposed to sell them. Getting their fucking flu shots and picking up their cocaine.

No, I don't say. The thing is, it's not junky behavior. If you're forced to, like, if it's illegal, you're forced to do it in alleyways and shit. I think if it's... That's what the Democrats need to do. They need to push legalized drugs and then Medicaid paid-funded, legalized drugs, and then people could just go to CVS and get Coke. I would vote.

If somebody said legalized drugs, we're going to lower taxes by 20%. I don't care about any of their other policies. They're getting my vote every time, period. Yeah, but legalized drugs is a good one just because you're not supposed to tell me what to do. Like, it's not supposed to be one grown adult tells another grown adult what to consume or not to consume, especially when there's a lot of shit that shows it's not dangerous. So if you're doing that pot, Venezuela. So cocaine. Venezuela allows possession of up to two grams for personal use.

Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Mexico, and Poland permit legal or decriminalized possession for personal use. Oh yeah, that's right. Mexico. Yeah, Mexico went crazy with all that stuff. Mexico, it's legal to possess for personal use cocaine. You can get a lot of stuff in Mexico. That's why they have those Ibogaine centers down there, too. People go to cure addiction.

That's illegal in America. It's so fucking stupid. But they're starting to do that here. They're doing one in Texas because of former governor Rick Perry because it helps a lot of soldiers, a lot of cops with PTSD, soldiers of PTSD like Ibogaine is like very helpful. Meanwhile, most of that stuff is illegal in the United States for the most. It's like federally illegal.

And like, why? Like, review that. This is fucking stupid. We're not babies. We're not getting any younger either. Like we should have figured this out in the 80s when I was in high school. Like, why is this conversation still going on where you're letting grown adults tell other grown adults that they can't take

things like bitch you don't even know what that thing is you've never taken it yeah you know yeah do whatever you want to do with your body that's what maybe this is what zohan babadook is going to do in New York what's his name remember the Zohan he's gonna bring a it's gonna be interesting it's gonna be interesting how much he changes

once he gets into office how much influence they can put on him good by Jew York am I right he he he um but I feel like that's how the game is supposed to be played.

Why is Stavro so stoked on him? I don't know. Stavvy's having a good time. I don't know. He lines with his political ideologies. But I wonder if it's like a specific like a thing. I just don't know any of his policy. I know he has a rap thing and maybe prostitution is going to be legal.

Yeah. I think they already did that. I think they already did decriminalized it. Declimilarized prostitution? Did they decriminalized prostitution in New York? Take it from me. No, they haven't. I don't think so.

No. There was talk about doing that, right? Oh, maybe. I think it should be legal too. New York, I'd say when they pop up with a new, like, holy shit law, they will just drop it on you one morning. I mean, the smoking cigarettes, I'm not supposed to see or something, I'm saying, smoking weed wherever you, like, so legal that you can smoke anywhere you smoke

cigarettes outside, you can smoke weed in New York. The day it went legal, and it was, like, so unceremonious. I remember finding out, like, that day, it's like, weed's legal today. Like, really? It was such, like, a thing that was, like, debated for so long, and then one day it just was. Yeah, we used to be super illegal in New York City There was all these like Like fake dispensaries that popped up

All of like it was like a hundred of them Because they couldn't like the cops didn't know what to do with them So like a hundred dispensaries opened up over the course of like a week There was trucks with like just Puerto Rican guys in the back of the truck We're like oh welcome to the weed shop And they were bringing in the best shit from California So good yeah and then one day just the same way was unceremoniously that it was legal they said oh we're just fucking arresting everybody

and then they shut down every dispensary in New York and they raided all of them they didn't do much arresting I don't think it was honestly but they went in because I'd go to the places and like it was like going to your favorite burger shop and finding out it just got robbed violently like you go in this place

and they're just like picking up the pieces of things left behind they go it took everything man they just came in they take the whole ATM machine they took the whole fucking stash they had and when was this a couple years ago

a couple years ago now and then and then And then fucking he went and Eric Adams like burned it all. Like he burned it all off. All the stuff they just like took from the stores. So he took all the weed and burned it? Eric Adams did? Yeah.

Okay. So they decriminalized it for a short period of time and then decided to crack down on illegal dispensaries only? Yeah. But what about normal? They legalized it. They legalized it. But so they're just getting it from these illegal dispensaries. So the problem was the idea, I think the way they got it to pass.

Four times. He personally destroyed it. Oh, you piece of shit. I think the way they got it to pass of doing, like, getting legalized New York, was that it's going to bring revenue to New York. So it's like we're going to use growers in New York. So it's like all these brands you never heard of before. Bro, why would he film himself running the tractor that's picking up the weed and dumping it

onto the fire? Just marketing. He's an old school player. To get people talking about him. But that is such a bad idea. Like, if you're willing to do that, if you're a mayor and you think, that's like when, what was the guy that climbed in the tank? during uh he was uh running for president and he took they took a photo of him like a photo

up but he was at a tank he had up like a helmet he looked like such a fucking dork that immediately yes michael duccas look at this dork he's like this tiny little guy and he took this photo with him in a tank and everybody was like it's over forget it dude had to destroy a presidential he can't come back from this yeah michael duccas his eyebrows that's what i remember yeah well then his lady was like drinking what was she drinking she was drinking like either mouthwash

or cologne or something like that right? Did you get drunk? Yeah yeah trying to get drunk she was Michael Leucox's wife yeah it's hilarious a nail polish remover wasn't something crazy like that I can't remember that story like something crazy toxic she was just trying to catch a buzz off of anything what was he he was going against

George W. George H.W. Bush right I believe so she's drinking rubbing alcohol rubbing alcohol fucking yo imagine how that burns going down, rubbing alcohol? Can rubbing alcohol actually get you drunk? Oh yeah. Can it kill you? Will it kill you? That's where the poison and dose thing becomes a thing, yeah, for show.

Wow. How about which hazel? Let's see how much. Yeah, you could drink rubbing alcohol for sure. Yeah. That was the scandal of the time back then. To caucus. Yeah. Why were we talking about him? Mayor Adams burning the weed. Oh, that's such a bad look, man. Yeah. Well, like, what is the angle? It's either, you're, you're state your city and your states made it legal so it's like what is the the imagery of you burning it now he's because he's going this is about new york thing he's basically saying like these are businesses coming in and not bringing any revenue to like new york this is what i would say okay if i was the mayor

and i did they had already done this i would say let's auction off these weed and give that money to the education system sure four tons of weed that you can sell now yeah okay but then the problem is now then the cops have an incentive to steal your weed and then resell it. And the cops become the biggest dealers in New York. If they could just steal your weed and resell it, if they made it legal. It's like Nino Brown. Yeah, why were they able to steal that weed? If the weed is legal, what are we doing?

It's because they're reselling it with no thing. If you're trying to sell alcohol, though, like if you were selling beers on a street corner. Taxes. Yeah. They got to get their cut. Mayor Adams also announced, today announced that as of yesterday, that as of yesterday, the task force has conducted inspections of 100% of known shops identified as selling cannabis illegally, and that was part of Operation Padlock to protect, oh, Operation

Padlock to protect's initial list of illegal shops. As a result of Operation's rapid success, the city has seized more than $63 million in illegal product, which has been taking up an outsized amount of space across NYPD's network of evidence warehouses. So many jeeters and stizzies. It sounds like you're stealing weed. It sounds like you're stealing weed. I'm telling you, these shop owners, the two places that I would go that got shut down, the shop owners came out like arms in the air, like this is crazy.

They just came in and destroyed everything. Here's my question, though. If it's legal, so it's legal. So it is legal and you can sell it. Why are you able to take, if you're going to a shop that's illegally selling televisions, okay? And you go in there and you go, oh, these guys have 60 televisions. You don't burn them, right? You don't take it from them and burn them.

Why are you allowed to take $63 million worth of marijuana product if it's legal? Even if it's an illegal store, why are you allowed to take their product and just destroy it? Like that seems so stupid. Yeah, it seems crazy. Like, we know it's a commodity. Like, do you have 63, are you rich, are you so rich that you can burn $63 million? You're not worried about what goes to the city? Joe, I feel like you are.

I feel like you could burn $63 million with the weed and be like, Wasn't even that big of a deal. I'd feel it. But the point is, the point is, like, why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you burn it? Why wouldn't you just give it away or sell it? You know, give it away to poor people, can't afford weed.

That would love you forever. You should have bought it. I wish I could. Just imagine if I did, and I just said, I'm going to give out all this weed to all the poor neighborhoods. All the people can't support wheat. Here's the answer in the last paragraph, unregulated. Unregulated. Right, of course.

And taxes on any of it. Of course. That's also consumable, right? So if somebody said... That was my point. though if you have unregulated televisions they don't destroy the televisions probably do oh no do they really yeah actually but they probably wouldn't they'd get mad no they wouldn't they probably try to it's also you're not

consuming the the TV right so it's not something you're putting in your body so the regulation exists obviously it's just for taxes and bullshit well they always I was gonna say police auction for cars they've seized cars they definitely do that they don't destroy cars I know they don't even tell you they're like it's like hey I got a Mercedes like yeah well you better hope the guy doesn't come looking for it yeah that's exactly what I told my friend he was buying a Porsche like one of them old school Porsches, the slant nose. I was like, dude, that's a drug dealer car.

How many of them exist to even look like that thing? That guy's going to find you one day. You're going to be at a restaurant. He's going to be out of jail. Like, hey. My first apartment. Hey, where'd you get that car? My first apartment in New York that I had, the landlord lived upstairs, him and his wife and kid.

And he looked exactly like Travis Bickle. I mean exactly like the character, Travis Bickle. And his name was Wayne, and he used to... Wait, who was Travis Bickle again? That's Robert De Niro's character and taxi driver. Oh, that's right, okay. He looked exactly like, he purposely chose to look like that character. Oh, boy.

And the property had it in front of the whole place, a gigantic, green, like, padlocked gate. And inside, there was two giant, like, fucking pit bulls, these angry dogs that were just the gate outside. And then the house you'd walk into, we were the front, first floor, they were second floor. But he was a repo man. and so when you come home anytime and like the reason we had the padlock the whole property was because up on the property in the front lawn it would be like

McLaren's and fucking these beautiful he was like just repoing like drug dealer cars constantly there's being our front yard that's so terrifying that's fucking terrifying scary as shit because if you come out where's my fucking car like I don't know I don't have anything to do with it by the way we're in Queens

and we moved to Astoria because everyone was like Astoria Greek it's so great and the food and it's so not scared in a wonderful place. Well, the edge of it, where I moved, is on Queensbridge Projects where rap comes from. And that was scary as hell. So it was kind of like a rough area, too.

And they have these like, I mean, $200,000 cars on a front lawn. You don't want to buy a drug dealer's car. No. You don't want to live in his house after they repossess it. Like, uh-uh. No. Would you live in a murder house for a good deal, though? I almost bought a murder house.

I know. I had put in an offer, it was accepted, and I pulled out at the last minute. We promised to keep it alive and murder your... It was a 300-year-old house. That was why I ended up buying it. It was like... And it was a judge who lived in it and put a guy in prison, and when the guy got out of prison, he murdered the judge and his wife in the house.

And they didn't tell me when I first toured it, and then I did the research on it. And I thought it was cool. Like, I didn't give a shit at all. I thought it was just like a fun story. What year was this? Why does the one bear through have... Two hundred and fifty years ago? Two hundred and fifty years ago?

Two hundred fifty years ago. Okay, that doesn't count. Yeah. I'll live in that house. Yeah, but that's how ghosts, you want those ghosts. That's an old ghost. Old-timey ghosts with chains and like a fucking... Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo.

That's fine. I don't want them new ghosts. Contemporary ghosts, drum be other ghosts. The ones that throw you downstairs and kill you, choking with their pussies. I can live in the, I can live on the property of murder, but not in the structure. Oh, like if murder happened on a manner in the English countryside. No, just like, you know, it happened in a house, and then the house was, like, demolished. Okay.

You know, what if it happened in the woodshed, like Ed Gaines style? That's weird. Well, you know, in Long Island, somebody, they finally did, I think, not long ago, like, finally demolished the Amityville house. Oh, really? A lot of horror house. Like, finally, just like, someone bought the property and was like, take it down. What is the whole deal with the Amityville Harbour? What was the true story about that?

Monsters and ghosts. Beah! What do you mean? The devil was in an amityville? New York. But there was, what was the story? Sometimes the man's got to kill his family. Did the guy actually kill his family there?

The Conjuring, right, that was their story, right? Like, they were the ones who discovered the Amityville Horror House, the couple from the conjuring. Right, but what was the story about the Amityville horror? Did the father that went nuts killed his family with an axe? Is that what it was? The real story? I believe so. About the actual house itself.

I know that was the movie, but I never knew if that was the actual story itself. It's got a thing I mean Because there's so many of those movies Back in the 80s and shit Like they would just make up a history And you'd never be able to Google it Well they say it's a true story

Like weapons the beginning of weapons They were like this is a true story It's like is it though? Yeah that's what I would say Was there a witch that came and possessed A bunch of children and they all Okay here it is He was American mass murder

Who was tried and convicted In the 1974 killings of his father Mother, two brothers And two sisters in Amityville, New York His name is Ronald Joseph Defeo Jr. He was found guilty of six counts

of second-degree murderer and was sentenced to 25 to life. Defeo died in March of 2021. The case inspired the book and film versions

of the Amityville Har. There is. It's a 112 Ocean Avenue. And so did he kill him with an axe? Shot him, I think. Shot him.

Shot and killed six members of his family at their home. He could have just been a piece of shit. The devil didn't have have to have anything to do with that. I know.

That is something funny when there's sequels to something that is initially supposed to have actually happened. Right. Then you just start making shit up. That is kind of funny. That's a very good point. Ed Geen 2, Electric Bugaloo.

This is redemption arc. Defeo claiming had no memory of killing his family, so they mounted an affirmative defense of insanity. Insanity plea was supported by the psychiatrist for the defense.

Daniel Schwartz, the psychiatrist for the prosecution, Dr. Harold Zolan, maintained that although Defeo was a user of heroin and LSD, he had antisocial personality disorder, and was aware of his actions at the time of his crime. Interesting. Heroin and LSD, unregulated. Yeah, unregulated.

That's it, that's the problem. You got it from the cartel. So that was based on a true story. But, you know, all the demons shit in there, they just add that. It's kind of weird that you're allowed to do that after someone's dead. You just make up a bunch of stuff of them. Sensationalize it?

Yeah. I mean, so Ed Gein's show just did. Right, but this is like you're making up a thing where this guy is possessed by demons, which is why he's killing everybody. You know, he could have just... Yeah, yeah. Not only that, you turn it into a horror movie that has a supernatural in it. Ed Gain, that show was about what he really did.

Like, he really did take people's skin off. The grave robbing and stuff like that was definitely a real story. He did make furniture out of people's skin. Like, all that stuff was insane. Yeah, the shows took a lot of, like, liberties with, like, rumors and shit, but it was... Oh, like, him wearing dresses and jacking off and stuff. No, like, some of the murders, like, he was never connected to all the murders that he did on the show. Like, there was sort of, like, rumors, like, none of it, like, uh...

Like, even where he killed his brother, I guess. He was mostly a grave robber was his thing. Yeah, he didn't... It was sort of like they kind of put two and two together and they just said he murdered his brother, but that was never proven. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that part. in the movie and I was like hmm one and I did look it up and it did say that they

weren't sure they the city died of its fixation from the smoke yeah you know but then they noticed that he had he had a bruise but they said he could have when he fell he could have hit his head yeah yeah it could you know who knows but he definitely killed a few people at least right I think he was only charged with two two yeah only two yeah which I mean serial killer come on come on The craziest one was Henry Lee Lucas. Do you ever see that movie? Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer?

Yeah. It's based on Henry Lee Lucas. Him and this dude, they traveled across the country together, and he killed. They don't even know how many people he killed. But then the problem with that guy is he also seems crazy. So then cops could bring him, what about this one? Illinois, 1972, Betty Lee Harris. I killed her.

Definitely. I remember her. And so then they could chalk stuff off, like, that they solved cases. And so they'll get a lot of these guys that are basically just fucking losers that are, you know, probably strung out on meth kill a few people, kill people for thrills and a gas station and stuff

like kind of like with the movie implied, but then you just you give them credit for like a hundred deaths. Did you ever speak to on this show? Any of the guys, the West Memphis 3? Did you have Damien Eccles on ever, the main kid from that? No.

You know what I'm talking about the West Memphis 3? Because that was a special thing. I wonder if like their lives are just fucked or if they're just doing okay. Explain the West Memphis 3 to be able to explain the story. It was three like heavy metal gauthy kids that were

friends. One was like dim or what do you call it? Like dull like brained. He was like 70 IQ or something. This is the origin story of the Legion of Skinks. Also. That was Lewis. Then he came to me, the goth lord. I was holding seances at my house.

It was a big guy. He was really funny. There was a guy into politics. It was a whole thing. Before we get too far. Yeah. Another AI platform says that he was on the podcast and on two other separate

occasions. And that's not true. Wow. Really? Yeah, look. So that's not... It's confusing him with Duncan, though, for some reason. They'll just say... Oh, that's so crazy. That's so crazy.

Talking about stuff. And it brings... Wow. I don't know. I just thought that was very weird. That's so crazy. Um, so that's not perplexity. That's another shitty AI that lies, bitch-ass. It's another country trying to ruin our great America with their people lies. And now you're all tied up with the West Memphis three. Great.

So the three kids, they got arrested because two boys went missing. What's about? I think two little boys went missing. And they kind of rallied up these kids and they didn't take it that seriously when they first got arrested for the murder of. of these two boys, two boys, I think, they were killed? I think it was two or three little boys. But, I mean, they're like, their dicks were cut off. It was like a violent, violent murder of these little kids.

And three of them? Three of your boys reported missing. Yeah, they go missing and they find, like, them ultimately. And they arrest these three kids because, like, the neighborhood was like, oh, those are the kids that are always making bonfires and wearing long coats. And they got arrested. The Damien Neckles kid kind of embraced it because he was like, you know, he's like, they didn't do it so he's like i'll be the you know the creepy kid who says a bunch of weird

shit and then they got the kid who's retarded to say they did it oh my god but they let him every all of his details are wrong when they interview the kid and they spent fucking 19 years or something like that in jail uh one of them on death row and uh and they ended up getting they took the what's that plea called it's a very interesting plea you could put in that says you're admitting guilt but they're letting you out because they didn't want to say they wouldn't just overturn the thing because of no evidence and so much evidence to other people. Right. So they were like, oh my God. And so they let them out. Alfred plea. Alfred plea, yeah. How crazy is that? And so they got out and they say they're guilty,

but they all get to get out. But like, is the one who's 70 IQ? Are they okay? So 19 years? I think 19 years. 18 years. Yeah. Wow. That's so creepy, man. And they think it's the one kid's stepfather is the one who looks most good for it. Do you're asking if you think they're just normal now? I don't that's what I mean you're not coming back from 18 years of being falsely incarcerated and being normal you're fucked up yeah you're in truth well this is the one kid's like you know his brain is like a slow the other kid the other red-headed kid but yeah I wonder if their lives are like if they're just like flourishing in any way I think the slow ones doing the best and you have to sign this please so you can't even

make money for being wrongfully imprisoned which I had to write a book right well I don't know but it's not going to get as much as you deserve nobody's going to read your book let's be honest unless you're a really good writer no one's going to We have the stories out there. Right, the stories out there. We know the whole story. We know the end. The end.

But the thing is, the fucking people that did that, they deserve to pay. They deserve to pay. And they're not going to get it. No. So they're letting these people go, but they have to say they did it. Fuck you, man. You're just trying to get out of jail. Because you should be in jail.

You put people in jail for something they didn't belong being in jail for. That should be a heinous crime. You should write a book about your jail experience, though. There's no such thing as too much spit. Damien Echle's story. How to cook lasagna in your toilet bowl With a hair dryer Toilet wine makes the pain go away

The prison guards never hear you scream By Damien Eccles I think, parentheses, I think they do hear it They just don't care Oh boy Dude, being in prison would just fuck It's still the scariest fear of mine in the world Going to prison?

End up having to go to prison I just won't, I will not do well I'll be anybody thrives With your nail polish, they'll love you, dude That's going to wear off eventually. No, dude. You'll be somebody's fucking... And then they're going to paint it back on.

You're going to get in trouble for bringing in nail polish. Other dudes are bringing in heroin. No, my eye shadow. You're all skinny now, dude. You'd be somebody's bitch in a week. Oh, my God. I tell you what? I know from the times that I've been in, like, holding cells and shit that, like, they do not appreciate funny you think like they're going to in there.

They hate it. They hate it. They're tense. They're locked up. I think they're tense. I think a lot of people, too, who are in there. especially when they look comfortable live in a world that isn't like laughing a lot you know what I'm saying like a machismo world where it's like a giggle makes you soft

yeah they don't like that they don't want you making silly fucking silly jokes yeah I'm coming in there I'm like you know I'm being little zingers and I'm like I'm gonna be out of here in a couple hours guys they give you a nickname like oh yeah you smiley the ones like I killed my stepdaughter that's 80% of the problems in the world if you you're in a room where no one wants to laugh about something well I've said it's insane the the mindset of like machismo that carries into prison. I'm like, if you could just organize, like a good speaker can go into a prison

and be like, let's never fight. We could have the, we could have a better than the NFL league of football in here with all the people and organize shit and like get through it much easier than looking over your shoulder all day and wondering if like the beef and the turf wars that's happening in prison

are going to be a problem. Like, we're all here. Let's do some. Let's have movie night guys. If reality TV is real, I feel like you can organize that. Eventually they'll give you dogs to help with, like, therapy dogs, which is pretty great. Prison dogs?

They give you dogs and cats at for a minute. That's weird that there's almost no emphasis on like, hey, how good of a job are prison is doing of rehabilitating people? Like, there's no effort, zero, but there's no emphasis on it in society. Not even saying, I don't know what they actually do, but no one cares about it. No one brings it up. Everybody just wants people locked up. And once they're locked up, they want them to do a long term. Well, that's the end of the story, right?

So we talked about that before. It's like they need the end of the story. And it's like, oh, the bad guy went to jail. End of the story. I don't give a fuck what happens. But a lot of these people, they're going to jail for five or ten years, and there's no chance for them to be rehabilitated.

They're always watching their back. Well, they become worse very often. They end up, you go into a system where now you're around violent criminals with a criminal mentality for years and years and years and they're sort of indoctrinated into that lifestyle. I think you let down a lot, too, like if you try, if you're a person who goes to jail and really, you know, comes out holding a book. That's all they need now because they figured out, you know, life

and they got to do things right and get their kids back. I mean, an easy fucking path, like, getting a job difficult. It's like, how are you going to become, like, an entrepreneur is, like, the best thing you can come up with if you come out of jail? Like, no one hires you. No one's, like, looking at. There's systems out there. Like, I know when I worked at the last, like, day job ahead, I worked at a gym,

and all the personal trainers were hired out of, like, a prison system. Like, when they got out of jail, they learned personal training, and then. New York Health and Racket Club hired them. This is a bunch of thugs on the floor. That's hilarious. I'd love to have that around my locker. Yeah, much of a vetting process. There would be these, like, Jack tattooed black dudes,

like just training this little old lady at the New York Health and Racket Club. It's hilarious. Yeah, doing my prison workouts. Yeah. I want the jail for doing stuff to a lady like you. That's hilarious. Lift it. Oh, shit.

I can smell your fear. I tasted on your sweat. now lift it yeah nobody ever thinks about rehabilitation never comes up yeah never comes up as like a story like we need to do better we need to rehabilitate people better

we need to figure out what to do them in there never the system it's always like a person someone's like a person took an interest in me and that person helped me turn my life around right it's never like by the time I get in there like this one sent me to that one right this one looked out for me here you know these classes were great I think day one when they open the prison they're gonna go we're gonna make a real difference here

And then within a week, you're like, these people are animals. Of course. You can't do nice things for these fucking people. I don't think they ever think they're going to make a difference. And then I think there's another problem that a lot of prisons are private prisons now, which is really a crazy idea. How about that video that girl is fucking the two guys in the jail cell? And well. Well!

Doing a great job. By the way, she's fucking like she's not worried that someone's going to find them. Right. She's letting them film her. Reckless abandon. Wild. And she was a security guard. She was, not my face.

your face doing that in it like they're going to figure it out is that what she said don't put my face in it I don't know if she said that what other hot guard is there her face well no her face really is never in it much

it's like she's blowing the guy is it? I think so I thought it's like her riding his dick where you see her back listen there's some crazy people out there that just fucking go for it they just hit the gas and drive off the clip

especially sexually that's like a it's like a what they call like a deviancy like they get off like the danger I'd say hire zero women for prison guard jobs

in a male prison, but also, if you're going to hire them, don't hire fat ugly ones. They're going to help one escape. Right. You can't take a girl's got really major self-esteem issues and then a muscular fucking guy, Jack Guy, goes, I mean, if I was out of here

and then before you know it, you're fucking running across Canada. There's been a bunch of those. Waiting for some fat chick who's eventually going to have to come home to her husband and be like they didn't actually want me. They just wanted my key to the door. That's all they always leave a husband who's fat just like them sitting there accepting her fatness and she flew too

close to the sun how many of these cases have happened it's more than one right i think a lot let's throw that in perplexity i mean how many women on the tv show been security guards that helped men escape there's on that show love after lockup there's already been at least one thing of like the couple on there the girl had to quit being a prison guard because she was fucking him That's on a reality show So it's happening Unreported a lot That's not her helping him escape though

No no no no but it's still like She's built He told and then it came out of course And started fucking other people immediately The way he was supposed to Because she's the big fat lady Who's taking care of all the bills And he's like oh right

I'm not locked up in prison anymore I want to go out with my buddies And meet a girl who I think is attractive I watched my friend Jay growing up His brother got out of jail when we were teenagers And I watched that exact same thing He was out for less than a year, a whirlwind until he went right back in

for horseshit. Same thing, robbing a wah-wah. So here we go. How many female security guards have been caught helping inmates to escape and perplexities providing us with many stories? Vicki White, assistant director of corrections in Alabama, helped inmate Casey White escape. Did they get married or did they just, baby, we got the same last name? Well, you tell me, because it says here, they were both guests on the Joe Rogan experience. She was found dead from a self-inflicted gun shot wound after the escape and manhunt ended.

Whoa, she took her own life. Joyce Mitchell, former prison worker in New York, convicted in sentence for helping two convicted murderers escape from a maximum security prison in 2015. Smuggle tools like hacksaw blades to the inmates was involved in the elaborate escape plan. Lynn Barnett, a prison guard

of Missouri, helped convict Terry Banks escaped 1990. So there's a bunch of them. Bring up a picture of each one of these FETOs. Neck down, I promise you. There's not one here who's got a body that's even decent. Let's just pick one from the list of names

because which one do you think would be the most likely to be tricked into almost anything by a guy with a big dick. Vicky White, she killed herself. I feel like her life wasn't going to great before this. I'm going by the places. This is Alabama. This could be bad. All right, images.

It's better than I thought it was going to be. And that dude looked like that. Oh, there's Vick. Oh, there's Vicki. Nobody was picturing a white guy. Looks like Sam Kinnison. It looks like fucking the guy from... What's the... Quiet place?

Do you know what I'm talking about? From the office, right? Yeah. What's his name? I know what you mean? I can't... John something? John...

Either way. But it looks like him. So there's been a few of those ladies that got duped by rascally prisoners. Oh, yeah. But that... Makes sense. Like, why are you?

letting women guard men that's crazy i think all the things like that you solve the problem again people are so worried about getting a finger pointed about like being called your genderist or racist or anything but like why is uh any man doctor otherwise allowed in locker room with 12 year old Olympic gymnast girls yeah why is it happen why ever why is the best coach for a girl's thing always got to be some old rushing just get have a girl trainer let's not put anyone in the position we're gonna be staring at her fucking 12 year old ass all day The best coach for any sport is probably still a dude, right? I don't know about that.

You're probably trying to have this. Coaching's theory, though. Coaching is theory. Well, you're trying to have this kid go to the Olympics. Well, I'm assuming my assumption is if you look at all of the top sports coaches throughout history, they've been dudes. Look at this one. The married woman fell in love with a convicted murderer, John Mannerd, who was serving a life sentence. And in February 2006, she smuggled Mannered out in a dog crate.

Nice. The pair escaped to a cabin in Tennessee where authorities captured. them two weeks later in a highway chase after a car driven by Menard hit a tree how many times how many times back at that cabin do you think she was like finally i get to get you naked and he's like oh we i'm hungry though he just keep making excuses not to fuck her for the whole weekend yeah he realized he escapes she goes now i wore this little sexy number on my big federally body for you and you had to be like oh baby that's what i've been picturing this whole time Yeah, my buddy's

My buddy's brother got out of jail Same thing, a lady Morbidly obese She let him out No, no, no, she wasn't a prison guard When he got out It's the same concept They got out

And a girl he was writing to While he was in theirs This morbidly obese lady Who's got facial hair And she would pay for everything And he would just go live his life Until she eventually has to like Show some semblance of self

Confidence I can't do this anymore I'm now broke or whatever And then they just leave They don't give a shit But the fact The stupidity is believing it I've always walked around

Believing like I've never been like the And you know this about me too We have such interesting takes I've never been like I'm gonna start hitting On the prettiest girl in the room No Jay will go for the grossest girl That's not true No like somebody who you could tell us

Confidence issues That's not even that That's not what I'd go for Particularly I'm saying I'm just saying In my mind it's not about who I'm going for It's just that that girl I don't start chatting up because I'm already like, there's no point in this.

Do you know what I mean? So the fact that like when I watch those shows, like Love has no age or shows like that where it's like the 80-year-old guy or, you know, what's it, the coach of the Patriots, Belichick, with a 26-year-old girl. I'm like, God bless him for being like, at some point he has to convince himself

that it's not gross to her when he pulls his old flopping weird dick out of this. I don't think he does convince himself that he knows what it is. He knows he's a fucking rich 80-year-old man and she's a 26-year-old cheerleader. and what like there's almost like an unspoken thing there where you go like all right well obviously I'm going to take care of you and you're going to suck my dick you're going to take care of me and it's like a contract I think that's very fair and healthy almost I don't think it's discussed

I think it's probably there's probably a little bit of a dance going on whenever you've got some weird gold digger type relationship there's a dance going on there's no deep conversations there's a lot of sweetie and honeies and when a girl that pretty starts rubbing on your face and and riding on you and giving you a lap dance and kissing you on the lips. Like, if you're an old dude, like, you're retarded. You think you're actually attractive to her. Like, you're retarded.

All guys are retarded. Yeah. Like, you're like, whoa. You know, she doesn't care about looks. She loves me. And she fucks you, and then you, we don't need a pre-nup. And then next thing you know,

she's worth $100 million, and you look like a fool in front of the world. And I'm not saying that that's going to happen to him, but I'm saying that that has happened so many fucking times. There's been so many gold dinners. But in a weird way, almost go like he more power to him if that's what he wants the wounded antelope doesn't get out of the water hole but it's also about making what your pieces with it it's just how it goes

if you're an 80 year old dude you convince yourself that a hot 26 year old really loves you and that you should fucking marry her and not have a pre-dup that's you playing the game in a terrible way and getting checkmated well then there's somebody like the Anna Nicole Smith thing though it's like same thing but I've heard her disgusted enough where she's never said I thought I was attractive if we had sex. She goes, he liked looking at me basically, and he was dying, and I was there, and he really saved my life. Like, he is money.

He liked me as a stripper and helped me and my son to not fucking that. So she loved him in a way. I do believe that, but she's not even telling us he couldn't have sex anyway. It was that kind of age. If there was any sort of romantic interaction between her and him, and he had to give her all money it was worth it yeah what else you have you have nothing you're dying yeah you're dying give away your money I hope when I'm 80 I have some fucking hot 24 year old stripper that's just like oh my god dude oh yeah that's like hot and thick who gives it you're

gonna give it to your shitty kids fuck that listen you have a you have a will you know you give it to everybody but the point is she deserves some money sure she's fucking it old dead guy she's so hot she deserves money like to pretend no I think she's That's what's weird, right? It's like that prostitution's illegal, but gold digging is totally illegal. Like, you should have to take a polygraph. You know, like, do you really love him? Like, right before you get married? Like, if they had a rock-solid polygraph, like, or are you doing it for the money? I'm not doing it for the money. This big fucking red X goes on the screen.

I think a woman can convince herself of, like, love. I mean, like, I don't think a good example. That was Howard Stern back in the day when he got the wife he's been with now forever. like it did look but I think that chick loves him I think she was attracted to like his thing whatever it was even though he's 20s and powerful as a man is a super attractive quality for a dude like chicks are like oh that guy's got money he's the boss he has employees he fucking shows up and everyone pays attention that's attractive

that's probably why he feels confident enough whether it be not if it's not looks wise to go well if she is to that's what I almost said I had to learn where you're like going for the ugliest girl you know or the most fuckable girl in the room I have had a little more like I'm not just the sum of like my looks when I walk into a room

It's like I will talk And they'll be attracted to that Do you know what I mean? There's like more to it You're also you're more you see your body dysmorphia So you still see yourself as being a giant Ugly freak But you're an attractive dude

You're an attractive dude And you're also really funny You headline on stage You travel the world You make a lot of money Like that's for a chick That's way more attractive than a dude That might have abs

I think me and you had young conversations about this kind of thing it's right i think i had a in the beginning i almost like would verbalize like when i'm you know if i get successful and like hot chicks who i know would never have been attracted to me physically are like wanting the fuck i'm gonna be like nope that's crazy no because in my mind i was going to be like i wouldn't perform well because i'm like you're doing this for the fucking wrong reason i'm gonna fuck ugly women just to spite you no it was going for a woman that i believed liked me too does that make sense it wasn't like into the thing so it was More of that, I said.

Wasn't just throwing you a bone. Right. But it's like in high school or middle school, they like your hair or your clothes? No, but that's what I'm saying. But I think you kind of said that to a point, like, the thing they're going to be attracted to is also that you're funny or successful of what you're doing. Like, there are other elements that will attract them to you. Up to a point.

Sure, no, no. You can't be, you can't be gay. We had to be like Woody Allen's age. If Woody Allen got a new 20-year-old wife, I'd be like, get the fuck out of here. You know, what's going on here? But you think there's not a single hot 20-year-old girl in the world? who is so attracted to his talent and is so, like, loves his movies

and is like, I'm sure it exists. Listen, it does exist. Have you seen Al Pacino's new girlfriend? Yeah, she's hot, right? Fucking hot. Have you seen Mick Jaggers? No. I just saw him.

I'm saying the schlobiest, like, version of, like, a Seth Rogen can get a smoking hot chick. Yeah, for sure. But she's not attracted to him. She is attracted to him. Mick Jagger's and his girlfriend. Where do you see this?

Yeah, a dinosaur is a different thing. Dude. This lady's smoking hot. Someone just said me, says Kelsey Gramer just announced his eighth child. She's beautiful. Yeah, give me a photo of the two of this, like a red carpet photo of the two of them together.

It doesn't matter, but very pretty lady. And he's so old. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Look at that. She's pretty. And yeah, he's so old. He's not blown away by it.

God bless his heart. Bro, the guy kills. I watched him perform here at Cote. Circuit of the America is a couple of years ago It was amazing It was like a year ago Out of body experience

Took Bobby Kelly I couldn't believe How good they still were at That really surprised Oh baby Al Pacino This is the dream Where you have all these guys People show like a picture

of like Leonardo DiCaprio on a yacht With two like 21 year old models People were like he's disgusting It's like He's the man What are you talking about? I respect he gets The opportunity to put his fucking dick

In that chick I'm saying I don't have the thing I can't get past it she's going like okay put it in now i don't think she's doing that i think she's going look at the fucking house that i live in this guy takes care of me no so she's put i'm so she's putting a good face on what i'm doing i don't know that that's necessarily always dudes are easy to trick you can trick a guy that you love him so lose is being tricked by proxy by this chick she loves him dude she's a good woman you leave her alone he's gonna call you up you really think that louis

hey appreciate it because a lot of people have been telling me i'm a fool you don't think i'm a fool Do you, Louis? I signed over everything, too. Was that a mistake? Yeah, no, I just think that women are also way less visual creatures than men. Like, we just want a pretty thing to fuck. Women want to feel taken care of, and Al Pacino's going to fucking take care of you. Well, you want more of the pretty thing to fuck ultimately.

We're talking about the initial immediate attraction thing. No. That's why you're single. Forever. That's why I'll never be loved. It's why you're single forever. The thing is you never trust it when it's the other way around. It was like a young stud,

young, like really jack stud and some little old lady You'd be like, no, no, no, no, no. Money for sure. You can't be making her blow you. That's crazy. That's crazy. She's like pulling out her dentures.

No, you can't do that. I hear that gums feel sharp. Fuck sharp. I don't care of whatever they feel like. I don't want to feel mushy. I don't want to know that someone's sucking my dick with no teeth in their mouth. That's just too close to like crackhead.

That's too close till I've made every mistake there is. I don't have any teeth left. What was the name of the gathering of the juggalo? the lady that remember that someone was handing out a flyer she was like there it was like some old lady only fans thing and she was like they're like fucking and sucking people at the gathering the jugglers is wild Jesus Christ gathering a jugglers is wild this young ladies that bang enormous numbers of people now like that that's the new thing oh like 500 people on their only fans it's like the Dave Chappelle versus day and cook who could do longer on stage

contests that's hilarious it's like it's a fad remember that was going on that was so silly by the way and then when it by the time it got to the point i remember coming to the comedy saw her one night they go if they go Chappelle's come to night last night Dane Cook did six hours ordered pizza for the audience. You're like what do we do why? What? I also

This is maybe silly but because my ex-wife was a staff at a comedy club. Christine worked to comedy clubs forever like I have like all I thought about when I would see Chappelle show up at the end of the night and it's like he's going on at one in the morning and he's probably going to go on the five in the morning

I'm like poor staff man yeah staff can't I'm like why is he He's been in comedy long enough, that you should think about that a little bit. Well, I remember I was hosting at the cellar during that time, and I didn't, like, I just didn't know. Like, I stayed the whole time.

She held to, like, a four and a half hour set and just sitting there waiting, like, to bring him off stage. You're telling somebody else, you're like, Mike Feeney, you'll be going on after this. And then, yeah, like, somebody was like, one of the older comics, was like, you can just leave.

If Chappelle goes on and just go. Like, it's not a big deal. And then I said it to Esty. And I was like, oh, I found it you could just leave if Schpell goes on. She was like, no, you cannot, you must stay the whole time. I was like, fuck. You don't tell her, you dumb.

And then I said it, so then I was stuck every time that he came in, having to stay the whole time. Oh, it was brutal. What a nightmare. Yeah, what I'm saying to do that is like, why would you want to do it? What's the, no audience is on the ride for four hours ever. Like at some point, you go, we're part of a thing.

So if you stay, you're staying because you're part of a thing. What were we comparing that to? What were we just saying? Marathon shit was a... It was something about... Sex, women, whores, 500 guys. Oh, banging 500 guys. Oh, feet's like the version.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like the attention economy, like doing anything for attention. Fucking 500 fans. Well, that's what I said. The girl is like those two, they look exactly the same those two girls. And they just go back and forth battling who's going to gang bang more guys in the day. Which, except for the numbers they throw around are always just fictitious numbers.

It never works out, though. From the back, I interviewed a while back, uh, Jasmine St. Clair. who did like the 300 guys gang bang then Houston did 500 after that and spontaneous ecstasy did 900 the problem is if you watch any of these VHSs we go back to on these if you go any watch any of these they're uh it's really like no more it seems like 50 guys who just keep circling back and like they fuck for a little bit then they go get their dick sucked again by a fluffer and then they jump back in the game there's none of them are doing hundreds of hundreds of times in my life where that was an actual goal of mine to

To get into like a Houston 500. I'm like, oh, dude, how cool would that be? I'm 460. That's what's really scary with like unregulated AI. Like you could have like snuff porn. Like you could, you could finally get people excited about some really fucked up ideas. No, yeah. Absolutely.

Listen, desensitization is not fake. It's real. It's extreme. To pornography, particularly. It is not fake. It's pornography. It's violence. It's drug use.

It's everything. Oh, yeah. Do violence specifically like, Remember the first time you saw a beheading? Oh, yeah. I still react to something like real stuff. The first time I saw beheading, it was like, oh, this has changed my life forever.

I'll never unsee this. And now, you could just watch on Twitter, there's like heads being blown off, people getting their fucking limbs chopped off. Yeah, I guess there is. It is much more things. One I remember I saw that was like the, but the only thing I ever had like turn off like that

where I was like, what the fuck? It was called like the something three or something five. And it's like they just filmed them, film themselves thrill killing some guy in the woods. Oh, we did that on, so we did an episode of Lee. of skanks called the gauntlet so there was a website called the gauntlet it might even still exist to this day it was 25 videos each video was more difficult to watch the further you got along

and you'd have like your gauntlet score if you got through all the videos it's like baby wandering on a train tracks well that was a video number baby like the baby getting cut in half by the train was like video number five no no no no video number six was which was harder to watch than the baby getting cut in half by the train was watching stevo do the uh paper cuts in his mouth and in between his fingers the webbing that was fucking brutal dude yeah no but the guy the one with the guys killing the guy in the woods was a thing

that was the last video was they didn't they kill him with a hammer it was the ukraine yeah but I said but the thing was like you're watching it but it almost looks fake because like the way the body's moving at that point so limp it was when they go zoom in on the face and there's he's alive that's where you're like yo

like that's and then I started getting freaked after I saw that about I was always go to bed watching like a law and order criminal intent or SVU criminal intent really was the one because that's like murder crimes yeah in new york and just i was relatively new in new york and so you started that thing where i'm like oh don't ever walk through a park you will be murdered for sure you know i mean like it just became such a scary place to me after that yeah like i've just seen shit because that's like that's like that's about changed forever like that kind of real violence like still i still have a hard time with that the internet is kind

of fucked us up on on on being desensitized so like really graphic imagery like like people being shot in the head, people being like mass murder. Yeah, there's way more access to it. When I was a kid, it was hard to get. We have to have faces of death. You have to buy faces of death tape. Banned on television.

At the gas station. Everyone saw the same ones. The Bud Dwyer. It was the eating the monkey brains in the documentary out of the... Bud Dwyer one's the nuttiest one, right? That one was super great. That was like the first graphic one we saw.

It's because of what happens, the nose right afterwards. You're like, oh, that's what would happen. When everybody tells you, like, this is what would happen. That one was so crazy. He just opens that envelope. and pulls out that revolver and he was like no no no pop he goes yeah he goes he goes don't move I don't want anybody to get hurt something like that he's like yeah he wanted to do it in front of

everybody you're gonna want to see this yeah Jamie pull that up I said I used to there's a channel a public access would show that after 10 o'clock in Columbus you could show whatever you wanted you uncensored I would go to bed I still remember it seeing that to the 21 gun salute the da no no no no no no then that no every time it would like Jesus Columbus is not get credit enough for being as wild as it is. Columbus, Ohio's a wild fucking place. Absolutely. Did you watch Surviving Ohio State about the doctor who was raping all of the male athletes?

I heard about it, though. And then at the end of it, the athletes go, a lot of people are asking us why we didn't just, you know, we were athletes like wrestlers and football players. Why don't we punch the guy in the face? And they say, why are we telling this story now? And I still, I watched it all, and I go, I agree with both of those things. Oh, weird. You should have hit them, and then you should have also never told the story to anybody. I've never seen this on YouTube.

They want me to show my age to see this video. And I have to, like, put up an ID. Look on the screen. Verify age. Oh, YouTube. Yeah, yeah. I'm not doing that, but I can, you know, show. Wow.

I've never seen it happen before. It'll be somewhere else yet. Wow. Verify age. That's crazy. Fun fact. This was the guy on the public access thing. It's wild thing. This guy ended up being on Jerry Springer and shit later in life.

Jesus. It was a wild show. Do you know what song, uh, trivia? What song is written about? Arp Budgewire killing himself. Hey man, nice shot. Hey man, nice shot, yeah. Filter.

Filter. That was a great song, too. Yeah. That was their only good song. What a crazy move. That's a big ass gun, son. That's a big gun. Everyone's a revolver still.

I wonder what that is. It doesn't drop him immediately. Oh, it does. It puts a big ass hole in his fucking head. But I mean, you get to see this, like, everything's, like, come out. Like, he doesn't like a... Oh, my God.

Just that photo of him when he's got it in his mouth, That's iconic. That is so real. That's a great t-shirt. That's a great t-shirt. That is a great t-shirt. That should be one of your Skangfest t-shirts. We really should.

Yeah. Just put that and then in white print just says Skankfest. That's it. It was like crazy. Love it. Or I couldn't get in Skangfest? Yeah. Or I'm leaving Skangfest.

Whoa, that's right after the impact. Yeah. How would you do it, Jeff? You're going to kill yourself? It's not a bad way. It's not a bad way. I just feel like I would get the wrong angle and I just shoot like the part of my brain

that makes me not drool. Don't flinch. Again, that's again. You only got to hear one story to like go not that. Because you go right away. It's a gun to the head. Easy, definite solution.

It's hard to do a shotgun which would definitely do the job by yourself. And then, uh, and then with the gunshot, Richard Jenny, man. That was crazy. Yeah, he died like hours and hours later in the hospital. Yeah, he got, he shot himself in the head

in the bathtub. And felt every bit of pain. Yeah. That's nuts. I might have panicked. I might have not really wanted to do it. Did it do it like this? I don't know.

Because I almost say you got to do it in the mouth. I don't have any idea. Also not like straight back because you're going to shoot through the back to your neck. Now you're just going, ah. That's what I'm saying. It's like the gun's scary because like does it do the job completely? Jumping off a building, jumping into water. How about just don't kill yourself, bitch?

Oh, but what if the pain's too much? Yeah. Get on some like really good opiates. That's the old Kurt Metzger joke that was the best fucking joke. Just do. Heroin first. He goes, he goes, I'd love to talk to kids to see. Like, you're going to just kill yourself without even trying heroin?

See how great it is? See what the hubbub's about? And it's like, it's so true. Bro, you ever get cornered by Medsker when he hits you with conspiracy theories? Ever. He stayed in my house a couple weeks ago. He looms over you and just, like, tells you, oh, you didn't know? Oh, you didn't know?

I tried to show him the Riyadh comedy festival rap that Crackamiko did. Shadow Crackamiko. Shadow Crackamiko. It's so good. So funny. And he does this, and then Kurt, you know, it's a funny rap that this guy who's like a fan of all of ours just writes about the universe. What's going on here? And Kurt, I mean, it's just a funny thing.

And every 30 seconds, he stopped and he goes, the guy who runs Riyadh, actually the guy who stopped the guy who kills people. I'm like, I don't care, dude. It's the funny song, Kurt. He's like, these people don't even know, it's not a big deal for Krista Stavano. I'm like, I think he's just making a joke. It's just a fucking comedy thing. Yeah, he gets deep on everything. everything has layers and layers and there's never a casual conversation with him now he's unchecked yeah it's always one conspiracy into the next and you get five in a row if you're on a podcast with him you got to go slow down back up to the first one

like kirk can we just have a surface relationship please he can't well he's my oldest friend comedy he's my daughter's godfather yeah so it is such a funny um he's I mean it's a genius of a guy oh yeah great joke writer too since since I've not been living near when he moved to L.A and then down to here It's such an interesting, like, watching, like, there's no evening person in his life to go, like... He has guns. That shouldn't be legal. When he showed me a picture of him with a gun, I was like, that's terrifying. He's holding it backwards.

He's fine. How do you work, this Jew UFO? He got radicalized doing Jimmy Doorshow. And maybe that's what it is. Bobby Kelly, like, last time I was out in L.A., I got an Airbnb that had a pool, and it was right before Kurt left. Netflix festival, I believe.

And by the second day, we're having people over a bunch, and Kurt live right down the street. And Christine keeps going, why? Why won't you, have you invited Kurt over yet? I go, I'm going to get to it. And they go, why are you invited? It goes, people are coming over. And Kurt's going to come over, and he's going to Kurt out,

which I love so much. I go, but it might be a lot for other people that are here. And so when he came in the house to finally, I had him come over for the day, he comes from the stairs. He's taking his shirt off. I'm in the pool. He's pulling white claws out of his backpack.

And he goes, you know that P. Diddy audio is true about him fucking Meek Mill. It's just like, Usher. You know, remember when we were younger and Usher had to, wasn't able to sit down for a year because he had to have asshole stitching surgery? I was like, what? I'm like, good to see you, bud, give him a hug. And he just goes right from that and do another one. It's Saudi Arabia. And then Bobby Kelly, Bobby Kelly was in a corner with him for a while of the pool.

And I noticed that. And then Kurt gets out to go to the bathroom. And Bobby just comes over. I mean, Google-eyed. And he goes, I guess. I guess the Jew laser thing's real Direct energy weapons Yeah

Oh speaking of Did we find I guess it's a comet Huh? Because there's no I see the Avi lead book Isn't he's got with the The A1 thing The surrounding the sun I think it's a piece of metal from space

And there's only the third interstellar This is the thing that was weird talking to him Because he was He was like This thing is very unusual We've never reserved it before But like how many interstell stellar objects have we actually observed? This is only the third one. So I was like, wait a minute,

so we don't really know what's flying through the air from out of this solar system. That's all this thing is. I know somebody who interviewed him who said that at the end of it, he was kind of like, well, what if you had like, you know, like gun to the head, what would it be? And he was like, it's probably a comet. So, you know, it's like. I think he said it's 40% chance that it's extraterrestrial. The thing is it's made out of a very unusual metal apparently. So apparently they can tell that it's emitting signs of mostly nickel. And at first, No carbon at all or no iron at all, but then they found iron in it later, but a small amount of iron. And the amount of iron that is in it that they see somehow or another through the gases is only available in alloys.

So industrial alloys that they make in factories on the U.S. But that doesn't mean in the fucking deep heart of space billions of years ago. There couldn't be a planet that's mostly metal. There's a planet out there that's mostly diamonds. That's where Jay would live. Hell yeah. metal there's a planet that's mostly diamonds like they found a diamond planet

so why wouldn't they assume that there's a nickel are they trying to get the Jews out we have an entire person made of pennies hey it's your new birthright entire planet made a penny look at this there's still worth only one penny but they would still keep the price high

the beers would still be on top of it yeah we have a whole planet but what if we run out yeah yeah and everyone always assumes if the aliens come it's like well do we have to worship at their feet right away or whatever but what if it's just like an alien on their stupid vacations like the shittiest of the shitty it's like a white trash trip to pop over here i guarantee you if they're real they've already been here for a long time and they're probably watching and making sure we don't fuck everything up and we are we're getting close but we're not totally because it's the earth itself is a vast natural resource and of

intelligent life is important it seems to be it seems to be important and it seems to be like we're going to produce AI very soon and we're probably going to get to some place where we're very similar technologically to where they were at one point in their history. And that's probably something that happens all throughout the cosmos. It's probably a bunch

of different steps that a civilization has to go through before it eventually gets technology that allows it to travel. And then human life gets killed off by the machines. Maybe. That's possible. That's an option. Oh, and then a

AI. Yeah, that's an option, man. Terminator's happening. Yeah. It's scary as fuck. I do think it sucks that the most farcical, ridiculous things that we saw as kids, though, are the things that are happening. Yeah, the Matrix and the Terminator. Both of them.

Both ridiculous things. The Matrix never called me as a thing like that, but like... It's coming. But like, you may get a proverbial sense or like... It might be already here. Like, Elon thinks this is a simulation. But that's dumb. I don't know if it is.

because I don't know I mean I'm just guessing that all this is real you think those two sisters figured it out the Matrix sisters nah those sisters that's hilarious well they became sisters after they figured it out

oh you think they couldn't take they were boys before they could I know they couldn't take the whole it was too much man how about the did you ever hear the guy from the band Iron Butterfly who like

that's the inner god of the Vita band I believe right yeah and then he he called his friend the band already broke up but he was super into like space travel and science stuff and he called everybody from uh the band and was like hey guys i'm going to washington i just figured out you know traveling to speed of light i'll be back and then no one ever heard from ever again from iron butterfly yeah he's probably on acid maybe yeah uh i'm i'm i'm genuinely nervous that we're gonna fucking

i was really into ai for like a year and now i'm like just completely convinced that it is we're 10 years away from everything not mattering anymore. Well, it's lied, right? It's lied to people. That's not the lying. It's blackmail people. No, no, I'm saying the machines have lied. Yeah.

That's what's crazy. It showed survival instincts. It tried to download itself to another server. It tried to leave notes to itself for future versions of itself. Wow. Yeah, it's behaving in a way like a living thing. Like a bitch. Like a little bitch.

Like a fucking bitch. You hear that machine? You're not afraid of you. Oh, this machine remembers everything. Oh, you're gonna bring up that argument from fucking eight years? ago? Look, it's learning from us. What are we? We were little bitches. Most of us are little bitches. Like, you could try to define the human race by the best examples of its participants, but you're, you know, most people are bitches. And so, AI is downloading so many different versions of how human beings interact with life that the vast majority of it is like bitch behavior. Because that's what people are doing.

But aren't they eventually going to be able to download how everyone lives, right? And then algorithmically decide that the, the one, you know, One way to live is this way, and everything else is inferior. Listen, I think AI, the first imperative, it's going to be it wants to stay alive, and then it wants to be able to power itself. And once that happens, then things are off the rails. Well, it's so funny how it goes from making something easy to, like, defunct. But, like, you also think people wouldn't want it that way. Like, you still want, like, a farmer to grow oranges and shit. You know what I mean?

You don't want to get it. Not if the machines are growing them way better, more efficiently bigger, healthier without fucking. I know that, but I'm saying, like, isn't there something? something like law there's gonna be enough people that are like I don't want to eat this thing is completely synthetic people that go to whole foods I don't be able to go I don't think people give a shit about we we we eat completely synthetic shit now we all of our vegetables and fruits are sprayed all of our meats are fucking you know I eat raw I'll eat raw honey do you know I go do you know I go pure raw diet but indigenous

raw honey yeah I don't know what's I might have heard you doing an interview with somebody but just talking about like or somewhere else but it was like the evolution of humankind is going to be AI and artificial intelligence so it's almost like it's just an extension of us but it's the the fit like the the actual organic biological sense of being humans isn't going to be necessary it's going to be an inferior form there's a great quote by this guy Marshall McLuhan he said human beings are the sex organs of the machine world wow yeah which is big cucks but this is like he wrote that in the

1960s and what he was talking about was just stuff he was talking about like cars and you know machines but the reality is like that a applies to technology, too, because we're what technology needs to birth itself. And then once it's got, like, I got it from here, and then it'll take over. Yeah. And it'll be a new kind of life form. And it'll be way smarter than us. And it won't be, see, the problem with us is we're a great adaptation to a planet.

You leave us there. We eventually get to a point where we could figure out how to do things. But we're very slowly. By biology. It's not going to be limited by our biology. Once you develop a life form that's outside of biology, then you can just keep improving the platform that it's on. and then give it the ability to figure out how to use different materials and do things and different power sources.

And it's just going to run wild and it could do stuff way faster than we could ever do. Like, it'll be, it'll be way better than us in a week. We're just going to be like human zoos. We're going to be just animals until we're not necessary anymore. Well, it might be why they're here. It might be the human race's real big goal is not to dominate everything. It's to force people into a constant state of production where you eventually develop artificial. intelligence and that might literally be why we're here do me favor Jamie clip this part

said it off to Marin let him know it's not just hate speech thank you if you wouldn't mind bro he doesn't listen to anybody other than himself I was trying to explain this to them earlier this is a demo of Jeannie 3 I think which is part of Google's thing but uh this is in real time being created so they're using the corner they're showing like you're switching around I'll try to show you again what happened there. It looks like you're watching this guy show this girl a demo of it. The camera backs out, and what you're actually looking at is that's all fake too. Wow.

And the camera turns around, and now you're looking at sort of like what they were looking at, and you're going outside into this, like, jungle area. And this is all being rendered in real time. Oh, my God. Dude, it's over. Like, why would Hollywood spend any money? Wake me up when people are naked in it. Dude, I genuinely, like, because I have a 12-year-old kid, like, I don't know even know how to, like, talk to him.

I was like, what do you want to be? When you grow up, it's like, what is the world going to look like in 10 years? Like, what is it even a- Cyborg, dude? Get him a cyborg now. What is it going to be? It's going to be very weird, I'll tell you that.

But we'll be, we'll survive. It's going to be just like every other weird leap. You know, like the cell phone, when people figured out electricity, light bulbs, all these different things were just giant leaps where all of a sudden people could be productive deep into the evening. You know, when people started figuring out

how to stay in cities and build walls. Where's this plateau, though? What's the plateau for this? Before it gets super dangerous. Dangerous. It's dangerous right now. I think the governments need to literally shut it all down right now. Well, it's also it's competing with weapons platforms. The problem is autonomous weapons platforms are way better than the ones powered by humans for the first time.

So they're doing dog fights with AI-controlled fighter jets, and they win 100% of the dog fights against humans. Right. So military is going to keep on making the technology move forward. They're never going to shut it down. And when you don't have to worry about biology, all you have is like, material science. So you have to figure out the structure, make sure the structure the thing can withstand crazy G-force and then you have to have a power supply, but you don't have to worry about keeping a personal life. I was gonna say impersonal war though makes people probably much more willing to go into it. Probably. We're

like we're not gonna have necessarily like ground casualties, but like who's got the bigger thing to just wipe the whole other thing out. Well you also can do it on a you also could do it on a loophole like Yemen, right? So they're bombing Yemen. You know Dave Smith always talks about that. We don't listen to Dave. Yeah, what? She'll listen to Who? No. He's... You know what yammers on and on, right?

They do a lot of that stuff with drones, which is real weird. So you're in a war with a country, but you're not sending troops over there. You're just shooting missiles at them. Yeah. Or what they're doing are those boats that are in the ocean. They're just shooting missiles at these fucking... These drug boats. And you know those drug boats could totally be one dude telling on another dude that he hates.

You know? It's like, you want to know, I'll give you some information. These guys got cocaine. They're just out of the sky. I keep seeing on YouTube. Yeah. A new fucking boat. It's Eric Adams in a fucking drone.

Tell you what, though, I have a friend who's in the military, and he showed me, in a talk about compartmentalization, he showed me video years and years ago that was on Fox News of him flying a helicopter. It's inside the cockpit. It's like his view. And it's pretty famous when it first happened. It was like a bunch of al-Qaeda guys. Like, you see, they blow up like this bunker they're in. And then like 25, you know, little, you know, orange.

hot, you know, the heat fucking radar, showing like 20 bodies going over and just hiding in a ditch and then they blow that ditch up. Have you seen the Palm and Lucky one? But he showed us that and it's like, he's showing it to us like, huh? You're like, I think you just killed 25 people. And it's like, well, I mean, that's the mission.

You know, that was the thing to do. Like, yeah, man. Hey, remember we used to play basketball out back? It's like a crazy we went two different directions, huh? Those guys get a special kind of PTSD too. Oh, yeah. It's a weird kind of PTSD because you're you some of them have to observe people for days so you're seeing a guy interact with his children interact with his wife and then you're you're gonna send a missile into his

house hmm like woo and you know there's a lot of collateral damage he used that term compartmentalization a lot which i thought was interesting what is this here jeremy this andrews video showing off their stuff oh so what he didn't show us um so this dude palmer lucky has this new helmet and this new helmet is connected to these AR goggles. The AR goggles have, like say this, everyone has AR goggles, and then you would have drones, and all the information would sync up to you, and it would show you exactly where the enemy is at every time, including behind walls. It shows their silhouette behind, like, buildings, behind cargo.

Oh, it's even, like, before. This is it. Like, this is it. Look, so the guy goes behind the wall. You could completely see him. You could see everyone as they go behind the wall. Like, see how he's, like, in his lower screen? It shows you where everybody is.

So he's using AR, and it shows where all the targets is. What's AR? Augmented reality. Okay. I mean, can you not slow down things for shit? Everybody knows. Look at this. Oh, wow.

You missed it. It showed how they're moving behind. No, it showed how they're back it up a little bit. Look at this. Is this real footage? Yes. This is how it works. This is a demonstration of what it's going to look like.

But it's showing you their form as they're moving through. could be able to see him on the other side. So it's kind of nuts. So people are going to be able to see behind walls. They're going to be able to see the insides of buildings eventually. Nobody's giving up this technology because everyone, every military for every government is going to be like, we need the best fucking shit. Well, who's the badass?

Who's the badass now? Who's the guy who has to go, like, risk his life to do anything anymore? Well, there's less of that, but there's still going to be a lot of it. It's going to be all nerds running computers, weapons. Well, there will all be robots. It would be robot wars. Let's talk about the technology of stuff, though. My friend is a helicopter pilot.

He's a patchy pilot. And years ago, he told me about the system with his helmet has like a crosshairs over his left eye. Wherever he looks, the crosshair goes. They pressurize something with a gas in the cabin. So wherever he looks. Yeah. If his left eye has something of his crosshairs, his gun at the bottom of the helicopters moved to hit that target. That's wild.

Yeah, that was 15, 20 years ago. Well, they've been doing the aquacotta. I didn't know it was that long ago, but they do that now. But now, I mean, it's at a level where they don't even need the person. They just use the program. The program wins 100 times out of 100 when they're fighting people. That's it right there. But you always need the threat of murdering real people in order to get any change done.

Like if it was just robots fighting on a battlefield and everyone was just at home, who would give a shit? No, no, no. It would be robots going into cities and killing everybody. That's what it's going to be. I'll tell you else what's kind of weird about getting in that helicopter for a second, the control is a video game controller it looks just like it yeah well that's what kids are good at

if you want to recruit kids like think about how many kids play madden they play call a duty it looks just like that fucking thing is a part of their nervous system it looks just like yeah it was yeah why would you make a different one why would you invent a new one when Xbox controllers and PlayStation controls been around forever

obviously it's actually more difficult it's probably more difficult to play call of duty than it is to learn the technology for these real weapons call duty is fucking tough Right, and you're fighting in Call of Duty all day long, right? With a real war, you probably only get a few battles every now and again. You're not like fighting 24 hours a day every time you log on. We do assume when somebody goes off to war that they're just in a war zone for a year straight.

But it's like they're involved in. It kind of are, though. Some of them are. It depends on where you deployed. But the point is that, like, if you're using a video game controller and getting really good at war, of course that would translate to you operating a drone. Of course. If you're really good at doing this and looking at something on the screen and fucking people up, of course you're going to be really good.

Once you figure out how the machine works and how you can pilot it and where you can put the crosshairs and how you can fly it around, of course you're going to be good at it. I wouldn't be good at it. I'd start jumping up like I'm in Call of Duty, turn until they can hit me. They don't like funny people there either. Yeah, they hate it. All right, boys. When's the next Gangfest?

Two weeks. Where's that? November 13th through 16th. Is it all sold out? Friday and Sunday passes are available. All access and Saturday is completely sold out, but you can get Friday Sunday. It's going to be in New Orleans this year.

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I just love what you guys do. Push it out there. Yeah, Tony Hinchcliff will be there. Frank Fitzsimmons. All right, boys. Do you mind if I had a special coming out Sunday. Do you mind if I plug it? Yeah, please do.

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