The Joe Rogan Experience - #241 - James Bobo Fay

Episode Date: July 17, 2012

Joe sits down with James Bobo Fay.

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Dude. That's a new one. I'm not sure I like it. That new fade out you do at the end, you crafty devil. That's a Squatch Train Dog, ladies and gentlemen. If you hear a dog or see a dog, if you're watching us on Ustream or Vimeo, and you see a dog in the background, that is actually a Squatch Train Dog.

And this is an official Squatch hat. This is a goneatching hat can you sell these because if you don't you should because they'll sell like fucking crazy i thought animal planet trademarked it they thought i did oh so nobody did on somebody else trademarked some guy in taiwan now oh those sons of bitches just fucking sell and make them sue you. Because everybody would want an official Bobo gone squatching hat. They sold tens of thousands on Cafe Press. Cafe Press, though, like anybody could go on Cafe Press and pretty much like make your own shirt, though, right? Yeah. Last time I looked, there was like 670 websites selling those hats.

Oh, that's hilarious. Dude, you've created like, are you looking at your Twitter right now? There was like 670 websites selling those hats. Oh, that's hilarious. I know. Dude, you've created, like, are you looking at your Twitter right now? I fucking, oh, sorry. I promised my buddy I'd text him when it started because they were driving. Are you trying to text him right now? I'll just say it's on. It's on.

When I was a little kid, I went camping with my parents. I was probably like six. And we were in Yosemite. and I met a dude who was a trapper he gave me like some some stinky fucking feet of like animals he like killed like bobcats and stuff but when you're six it's fuck it's badass yeah like whoa this is cool but uh you know that's when I got obsessed with Bigfoot was talking to this guy because he 100% believed in Sasquatches. And I remember I was six years old when he told me this. He was just saying that the woods are so dense, there's no way everybody's been to every part of it.

There's no way. He's like, if you fly over the Pacific Northwest, I guess that's the only time where you really get a true sense of how dense it is. Because we kind of think of it, especially the Pacific Northwest, we kind of think of it, like, especially the Pacific Northwest, we kind of think of it as like, you know, yeah, there's Seattle, and there's Portland, and there's some cities up there, and I guess there's highways. Dude, a giant chunk of that is just fucking dense rainforest. Oh, yeah.

A lot of people are not aware of that. And that's the majority of sightings in America, right? The most. But what people trip on is they're continent-wide. They're worldwide. How is it possible that something could be continent-wide? And the only video footage available in 2012 is that shitty Patterson film. Whoa!

Patterson, I think he's a fraud, dude. No! What happened? We lose the camera? You think it's real? You think the Patterson footage is real? a fraud dude No What happened? We lose the camera? You think it's real? You think the Patterson photo is real? I was just with Bob Gimlin That was a very emotional response

See that? If you were to sit your dad outside No Deliver the table No I'm saying Wasn't Patterson known to be a con man? Listen I believe firmly Jane Goodall believes 100% Right that there's a Sasquatch.

I believe very firmly it's very possible. I think that if they found one, all of a sudden people would start, you know, it would make sense to people. There's all sorts of primates all over this planet. And they know that Gigantopithecus lived with people in Asia, like, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago. And the real legit scientists that talk about Bigfoot say it's very possible that an animal came down with humans during the Bering Strait, but, you know, realize humans are cunts. They're a pain in the ass. They'll fucking shoot you.

They stab you. They make rugs on you. Let's hide. Exactly. Let's go hide in the woods. Show me a big animal that we don't kill out in the woods. It's true. Oh, we would definitely kill one for sure.

They have been killed. There's a guy who's on YouTube right now. I'm subscribed to the Bigfoot Report on YouTube. Whenever the new video comes up, they'll send me an email. But there's a guy who claims he killed Bigfoot. He did. You really think so? I bought that camera because I got invited to go on the body recovery mission last year,

and it's a real story. But where's the body? What happened was, I'll just give it a rundown real quick. I'm actually friends with the guy. I thought I'd never be friends with the guy that shot a squatch. He shot the baby, right? Yeah, he shot a doll and a baby. First, what happened, they were driving, they were doing a U-turn,

they just saw a warden, and they were doing a U-turn way up in the Sierra Nevada. It was about 8,500 feet, and it was like Halloween, I think, or the day before Halloween. The Sierra Nevadas are in California? Yeah. Where is that? The huge mountains, like Tahoe. Right. Is that what the...

All the way down to like Kern County. What is it? Yeah, they run from Kern County up to like Oregon border, basically. Okay. And that area, though, like Northern California? It's, like, 400 miles long and 50 miles wide. That's a big Bigfoot sighting area, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

So this guy didn't believe in Bigfoot or anything. He's a total redneck, like, likes to just kill shit out in the woods. And the big adult came out and was waving its hands and wiggling its fingers. They'll wave their hands and wiggle their fingers to show that they're not bears we think i mean that's they're pretty smart they're like people so he draws a beat on his buddy had just come back this guy jack had just come back from iraq and afghanistan combat vet like he just was over seeing stuff shot he's like at first he said don't shoot it it's a it could be a person in a suit and cheston was looking through the scope and he's looking at it going it's not a person he could see it through the scope it was a person in a suit. And Justin was looking through the scope, and he's looking at it going, it's not a person.

He could see it through the scope. It was a squatch. But it wasn't one of those big buff ones. He said it looked real frumpy, kind of like saggy, like wasn't sure if it was older or what. So he started squeezing one off, and when the thing realized he was going to pull the trigger because they were locking eyes, he turned and he shot it through the ribs, gut like lung shot and it dropped went down like

to a sprinter position then got up and sprinted super fast stumbled once and then went crashing down on this manzanita well they get out of the truck and they're walking another trip they never even thought of bigfoot they're walking down their trip and balls like they just saw a huge thing they called it a monster shot it it ran off they're looking for the but they heard it crashed down the brush this guy's a registered bear hunting guide so he said he could tell it you know like that was the sound it makes when it crashes well they got about 40 yards it was about 70 80 yards when he shot it they got about 40 yards there and right where the thing was around two identical twin babies like the size like three or four year old kids but with

way bigger heads came out came out of the brush and we're running around looking babies like the size of like three or four year old kids but with way bigger heads came out came out of the brush and were running around looking for like the parent and they were running back and forth he was going to shoot one of the babies right off the bat his buddy wouldn't let him like kept yelling don't do it i'll kick your ass you shoot that thing don't shoot it things were running around for like 10 minutes they couldn't find the adult then they realized okay there's two babies and they were identical twins they'd run around they'd sniff the ground and look around on all fours like totally totally comfortable on all fours like quadruped you know just run around when they came near each other

they'd get up on two legs and they'd come up face to face and he said they sound like two profoundly mute people talking they go like just real guttural sounds but like he said like a language they'd get back down they were moving, and they were working their way towards where they heard the body crash, and they realized, well, shit. They thought it was they shot the mom. So they're like, well, if we just shot the mom, then daddy's probably around. This thing's eight foot.

What they shot was probably eight foot tall, 600 pounds. So they're thinking, well, shit's getting dark. We don't want to be out here. And Jack and Justin split up because they're covering different territory. And one of the little babies came up like, wow, where that wall is and just stood on this rise. We went to the spot with them. We went, like, Dr. Meldrum went and Mayan Chinsky, like, the big-name guys, scientists. We went out there when the snow melted the next summer.

Are these the big-name guys that believe in Bigfoos? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, no. Beliefs are shit you can't see, right? Well, they know it exists. Well, like people believe in Jesus, but I never found like a Jesus hair or a Jesus track or a Jesus shit in the woods, you know, or Jesus killed an elk or anything.

What have you found personally? So you're saying, let's go finish the story because this guy shot one of the babies. Yeah. So then. First of all, what a dick. I know. That's such a. He feels bad now, but.

I could even tell that story you know yeah why the fuck would you shoot a baby i know dude well he put his and well he wanted to prove the story was real he's just redneck dude that's kill shit for fun yeah that kind of mindset you know he's not a bad dude that's just how he was raised and uh he's actually a smart dude when you get to talk to him because you think he's just some dumb shit redneck. When you talk to the guy, he's a pretty sharp dude. But why didn't he take a video? They didn't have a camera.

He didn't have a cell phone with him? Dude, you're pretty redneck. It's 2012. Yeah, this was October 2000. Whatever, 11, 10. How could you not have a cell phone? Dude, I'm not justifying what he did. I watched his video video and my bullshit alarm

went off oh no dude well i'll tell you i'll tell you what happened so he shot it and the thing it rolled down the hill he picked it up and looked and just watched it die in his hands and then he then his buddy started screaming at him he said he stuck the body into this bush they took off got out of there and they were on a hunting website and one of our buddies derek randall's like you know talked about the website whatever like like a chat room for hunters he's like i shot a couple kind of jokes and how would you mount a bigfoot and then he's all no i really did i really did he's all dude you look at that body i'll give you a million dollars right but all you have right now

is just a guy with a story no no he came back and brought when he picked up the baby it bled on his boot so there's blood on the boot from the baby. They went back out there and it snowed like three and a half feet, and they're digging six-by-six-foot holes down through the snow. They're out there for like, I forget what he said, like eight hours digging, digging. And then his bloodhound, they found where they thought it was crashed. They found it. And like when a mammal dies, like how all the grease comes off the ass,

like it leaves like a grease slick there and they found out there was it looked like a bear had fed on it because it was just torn up and there was actually some bear prints in the snow as they dug through they'd see like which does happen to any animal oh yeah woods yeah people always say you know when was the last time you saw a dead deer in the woods they don't last very long right if they're there a couple of days something finds it oh yeah it starts getting torn up and then like rodents eat the bones porcupines eat the bones like whatever and so um where was i so they went back out there his bloodhound puppy found a chunk of meat and flesh he couldn't tell look it looked like the same colors he got and it was like uh like a i saw it it's like grayish

white with brown mixed in like kind of multi-colored and it's weird coarse hair and it was like uh like a i saw it it's like grayish white with brown mixed in like kind of multicolored and it's weird coarse hair and it matches anyways that is the the the catalyst of like i mean the centerpiece of the dna study is that piece of meat that's the first one they got because it snowed right on it that was the first whole and what is it have they done an analysis they've mapped the whole genome what is it it's what the guys that are working on it called as a relic hominid and it's not a gigantopithecus really so so they're 100 convinced it's not a chimp it's not any other kind of animal yeah word word no no wordly who is this guy that uh has done this study it's a woman named melba

ketchum uh-huh and there's a lot of controversy around her, and there's some weird stuff about her for sure, like things she's done and said. Is she crazy? No, I don't know. A little bit? She's a woman. There you go.

I knew it. I was glad you said that. How many cats does she own? How many crystals are around her neck? She's cool, but she's a genetic lab. She has a big genetic lab. Anyway, she's well-known. What's the issue that people have with her?

Well, because she had to come up with new... God, what are they... I don't want to start talking too much detail. When I read it, I understand. I've had people explain it. Was it a business scandal? Was it a... No, no, no.

Well, I'll just say this. From that, now Oxford University is doing a study over in England. On the same... Well, I think they're getting some of that. I mean, I'm not sure. I hear stuff from different people. And I was just with the guys that are running the DNA project this last week. Right.

Last week. I just left them two days ago. And but there's other labs that are due. You have to like go through peer review and they have to like you give them a sample. They do the same test. But she had come up with these new techniques that hadn't been used before and and so the other labs had to authenticate that then re-replicate the process and you had to replicate it twice each other lab and the word is is and like there's other scientists getting on board because words leaked around in the

community of those type of geneticists and stuff is that it's it's real like there's it's it's really close to human like whereas chimps and and gorillas have 98 98.1 the same amount of the same dna we have these are 99.5 99.6 the samples from asia the yetis were 99.4 to 99.5 so what are the yeti samples what were they proven to be uh well so that was the thing was that there's these genetic markers they're they're really similar they're like a type of people like they're they're the whole that evolutionary chain they have you know uh-huh is is way out of whack i wasn't aware that there was this much conclusive evidence so i'd never heard this before yeah people do you talk about it on the show no you know it's so aggravating it's it's um it's real

frustrating because we were like you guys never put any real science in the show they're like they're like yeah and i used to get in fights with them and i actually quit the show a bunch of times like season one like in between season one season two really yeah i was i was i was like this is what i signed up for you know like some hokey ass what was wrong what this is what I signed up for, you know, like some hokey-ass reality show. What was wrong? What did you sign up for? Well, like we got some, you know, audio. We've got audio and stuff captured. And when you run through Spectagrass, you can rule stuff out. And a lot of times you'll get left with the only thing that matches it would be like a howler monkey or something or a gibbon.

And then it goes out of range of that even. You know, my favorite story is Les Stroud from Survivor. Oh, yeah. Survivor Man. That dude was in Alaska, and apparently he was on a remote island. And Alaska, for folks who don't know it, has more than 1,000 islands. Alaska has a fuckload of islands. There's temperate rainforests in the southeast.

Yeah. Well, he was camping there. He was doing one of his survivor things where he stays up all night and you know sleeps in a tent and makes his own food i mean it's really the show's amazing i love the guy anyway he was in alaska by himself and he started hearing primate noises he heard like loud something that didn't sound anything like a bear he's like this was like very distinct primate and he said then i started to make some movement and when it realized that something was there ran hard and fast through the woods he goes i don't don't know what it is but it was big and

it was heavy and it ran through the woods and it sounded like it was making primate noises he said you know to him it was of it was a real animal and he suspects that it's probably Bigfoot. And he's a guy that goes to these really remote places and stays for days and days and I think he's got it in his head how there could be an animal like that that lives completely outside of human contact and even in 2012 as yet to it's just this guy's story sounds like bullshit. I watched his story. I watched him talk, watch him talk about shooting the,

the, the thing that it was a baby. I was like, dude, you're an actor. This is nonsense. This is, I don't,

I didn't buy a word. He's taking a lot of grief, man. He's not, and he's not making any money off it. Like they're doing a book on it. And he's done it. People are crazy.

People are crazy. Check this out. When I took him out, we went out there monkey loves like she's played with bigfoots before up in bluff creek yeah i didn't actually see her playing with it but i it's the only daylight setting i ever had was the same day she was in the brush in that same spot running around and i could hear something huge running back and forth anyway she gets excited she hates she got her ribs all broke by a bear when she was a puppy, and she hates mountain lions. Wow. And where he said he stuck the baby's body, you'll never hear her make a noise.

She doesn't bark or anything. She might maybe play growls a little bit, but she doesn't bark. And the whole week we were up there, the only time anyone heard her make any noise was when he said, yeah, I stuck it over that bush. And she was just walking around sniffing. She went over that bush where he said he stuck the baby body,

and she went crazy and started digging holes. Did you guys try to figure out if it was there to try to dig it out oh yeah we had cadet like um uh dr melderman set up for some cadaver dogs to the smithsonian and stuff like that to come out it was like a full we had professional trackers and um the cadaver people we had two different sets of cadaver dogs they wouldn't do it because if the funny part was was the lady had done search and rescue up in the mountains with the dogs too like body recoveries and she was certain that their sasquatches lived there and she didn't and it wasn't like i don't want to do it that's crazy i don't want to be involved in something that's not real she was like if it is sasquatch and you and my dog picks up that scent tracks it it would net like uh it wouldn't

ever track humans again they only track one one thing, those cadaver dogs. Really? Yeah, that's what the handler said. So if they trained it to track Sasquatch, then they wouldn't work for humans anymore. Yeah, but if you got a dog that was trained to track Squatches, your dog probably wouldn't live long if it caught up to them. You think they would eat the dog?

They've been known to kill dogs pretty frequently, yeah. Really? Agg really aggressive dogs even dogs that were just minding their own business they've killed them no shit yeah but dogs barking getting aggressive though people say they'll see them kick them do you know that is anyone that's had their dog oh yeah yeah they see it they see it happen i talked to these natives we were down squatching on the Hickory Apache Reservation in New Mexico, and they had one come up on the porch, and the female dog, Pitbull, was guarding her puppy. They were like four-week, six-week-old puppies. And they were up on the sliding glass door. It was morning. The kids were watching cartoons, getting ready for school, eating breakfast.

And the thing walked up on their porch, and the dog was snarling and snapping. It just walked up, lifted its leg, and just crushed it, broke its back, like crushed it, and then stomped all the puppies and walked away. Whoa. Stomped a puppy. So Bigfoot's a douchebag. I think they're like people, yeah. Like some are total dicks, and most of them are all right.

Now, what is the most conclusive evidence? You think it's that Patterson footage? Because I think that footage is horseshit. Dude, you're tripping. I'm not. You're more wrong than you know. Do you know that that guy was arrested for writing a fake check to pay for the very camera that he used to film that?

Okay, you're talking about Greg Long's book. I don't know what I'm talking about. Is it not true? He had some financial difficulties for sure bob gibbon the guy that was driving him and the apache indian the tracker guy i mean the guy's a legend dude he's but there is one guy who has come out and said that it was a hoax and then he was a part of it right that guy's a liar totally he's some drunk neighbor guy that used to hang out with him. Roger and Bob were real popular.

Roger Patterson and Bob Gillen. They were like expert rodeo riders. Bob Gillen's the baddest dude you'll ever meet, dude. He was the number one ranked welterweight in the world when he got in a serious car wreck, ended his career. He's in the Rodeo Hall of Fame. He's like the best tracker, hunter you ever saw. I mean, the guy's 81. He's still out there like breaking horses and roping. career he's in the rodeo hall of fame he's like the best tracker hunter you ever saw i mean the

guys he's 81 he's still out there like breaking horses and roping and what part did he play in this he was he was the guy he was the other guy there with with with roger when they filmed it roger patterson wasn't a con man no because i've read that he was a con man this guy put this he was arrested for writing bad checks. Yeah, because he was so impassioned with the project, and he knew that it was real, and he just thought he... Well, his brother-in-law was supposed to be funding this stuff. This guy, Al Diattoli, was a millionaire up there.

And he was like his brother-in-law, like crazy Roger running around, whatever, I think. And he was his partner on this. And then he was supposed to be putting funds in. And it didn't happen. It wasn't like Roger was his total con man. He was like, people we've talked to say he's a good dude. And he purposely went there to try to find a Bigfoot.

No, he was there filming fresh tracks. They were there to film the Blue Mountain trackway. What does that mean? There was some sets of tracks that people had found. Bigfoot tracks. Yeah, there was two sets. But he was there to try to find Bigfoot. At that time, they were just looking for fresh tracks.

They never thought they'd see it, especially in the day. Well, listen, man. Nobody wants to believe Bigfoot more than me. But when I look at that video footage, it looks fake. Dude, you're tripping. It looks like a guy in a monkey suit. I'm just being honest. Pull it up, Brian. Pull it up. You're way off.

I think you're tripping off. You think it's a real Bigfoot, Brian? I know it's real. I saw one in the daylight. Listen, I'm not saying that Bigfoot's not real. I'm not saying that at all by any stretch of the imagination. Look, Jane Goodall believes Bigfoot's real. She said she believes 100% that there is some undiscovered primate in the pacific northwest i believe those were

his global her exact words uh what should i should i look up bob patterson bigfoot footage uh roger patterson put up a patterson gimlin stabilized patterson bigfoot footage i'm sure it's good and put up stabilized because you want that oh that's it that shit's real as fuck Mexican border Bigfoot footage Bigfoot with a sombrero in a fucking bag we talked to a border patrol agent

that was tracking some illegals coming across and saw Bigfoot down the mountains down in Arizona really okay original footage okay for one thing let's watch when she's walking if you can uh see that's not stabilized yeah they're gonna stabilize it in a second okay that okay right okay if you just go back dude you're so

off the top expert guys in the world like chambers that made the the um okay right let's see back a little bit more her foot they have a double if you look at that cast they have a double ball foot and you can see it they just found this recently right there oh you just yeah you have to pause it you can't you gotta pause it when she's picking her foot up it's her left foot going down it's a total girl is that what what they're saying? Oh, dude. Big hairy tits. Big hairy ass tits. Listen, I would love to believe that that's a real Bigfoot. I really would.

But it looks like a dude in a monkey suit. Nah, dude. It's way bigger than a human. Do they do the things that you guys do? That's one of the things I really enjoy about your show. Is that when someone has a video that they think it's Bigfoot, what they do is they send Bobo out, and Bobo's always bigger. Yeah.

Because you're a big dude, but you're always bigger than what they thought was Bigfoot. Except for coming up this season, one of the episodes coming up. Oh, really? It's way bigger than that. Well, they got smart. Season two, they wisened up. You know a lot of those people just want to be on TV, right? On that show.

No, a lot of them. You don't think a lot of those people with their stories? There was one guy. Some people, but most, well, what happens is we go there, right? Like, we have like a network all across the country, like Bigfoot researchers. There's like a lot of like academics, cops, like fishing game officials, like people that have seen it themselves and like they get into it. Have you seen it yourself? Yeah, yeah. When that have seen it themselves and like they get into it have you seen it yourself yeah yeah when have you seen it the last one i saw that's funny the guy just called me was with this guy uh jamie jay he was you ever said maybe blackhawk down yes he was the

real life dude the fifth grade squad leader that um shot their way out like came out of that rescue house and came out and met up with him then ran out front and shot his way out me and that guy were up there and it was where where I saw my only daylight setting. It was right on Bluff Creek where that was filmed, the Paterson film was filmed. Really? Yeah. So you saw one there?

I saw one. That's the one when Monkey was playing that day in the brush where I thought she was going to get killed. Earlier in that day, the only reason I saw it was she was staring at it. It was leaning out behind a tree, and I saw it lean out behind a tree for just that fat. It just was gone. I walked up there, and you could just smell just smell that smell is one of the only times i

really smelt that smell real thick you hear about because i haven't smelt that like people always talk about that smell but i've only yeah they call them skunk apes yeah yeah we think it's like a like a secretion gland like they can like if they get agitated or scared or mad it'll seep out like over millennia human brain is when that pheromone hits your brain it just causes total fear reaction really yeah that's interesting so it's like you know what a lot of people don't realize is that like um the parts per million that a dog can smell of a person is very similar to what you can smell from a skunk. Right. It's really interesting because you really think about how strong a skunk smell is.

You're in your car with the windows rolled up and you're driving like, oh, fucking skunk. And that's outside. It's outside, nowhere near you, and it's just a little tiny squirt. Well, a dog can smell a person like that. Right. That is a trip, man.

That's a wild thing to think of. Yeah. And if we have a reaction to these things, some primordial reaction to these things, and that gland is just like a skunk gland, just like something that squirts out onto us is like really distinct. Right. Probably all animals fear that smell.

What was it like to you? Like what was the smell like? If you could describe it, is it possible? Yeah. I'll tell you this. I walked through it to another time where what was the smell like like if you could describe it um is it possible yeah i'll tell you this i walked through it to another time where it was real thick where it just walked in front of us like we missed it by minutes where it walked in a broad day across a meadow and uh hickory apache reservation i smelled it there too it was like back from here to the wall and you could walk through it and you'd just be like, ugh. And like, if there's no wind, right? Because both these times there was not wind right then.

And it just hung so thick and it was like real musty, like a musk and it was kind of sour, kind of sewage-y smell, like wet,

like wet dog mix or like bear, like when a bear comes out in the spring and you smell bears and they come out of hibernation and like that kind of smell. Just a stinky animal, fucking funk.

But thick and like nut, and you would not, when people, because I didn't smell it for a long time. I was around them a long time until I smelled one. Like I'd seen them and heard them around me before I'd ever smelled one. What's the first time you saw one? The first one I saw was May 21, 2001. Where? Up in Humboldt, up in the Bald Hills. That's where you time you saw one? The first one I saw was May 21st, 2001. Where? Up in Humboldt, up in the Bald Hills.

That's where you're from, right? I'm from down here originally, but I moved up there in the 80s. It's nice up there. Oh, yeah, it's beautiful. So I was with this cop and this probation officer guy, and then my buddy, I was all excited to go out with these guys, and I just brought a Gen 2 Ukrainian Nightscope. That's when night vision and all that stuff was super expensive.

Nowadays, it would just be a piece of crap. You could probably buy one for $100, but I never had one before, except for little cheap big five ones. And I left it on the porch when I was packing my truck to go out. We were going to go squatching for a week. And my buddy drove it up to me. We were only there 20 minutes, and it's a long story dude no it's okay it's um well five nights before that i'd had my my first for sure like unambiguous

sasquatch encounter where it scared still to this day was scariest moment of my life like you didn't see it no i didn't see him but i saw like when they ran at me when they bluff charged me there was like it was pitch black but like you just see black on black moving like you know what i mean like you couldn't make out any any form but it was just a big black couple black shapes like it was like there was gaps between the trees of starlight behind there was just like but there was so it was just like a black blur they ran on both sides of me um i've been doing howls and growls and i've done them all the time i'd never i'd never had in hindsight when we were logging up there like probably about seven years earlier

six years earlier further down that ridge line we'd been logging there one summer and they'd come around as much but i didn't realize what they were doing i thought it was indian i thought it was pot grower indian dudes up there because we were off the res. And there would be knocks and whistles in the morning. And the Indian dudes wouldn't get out of the truck. But, like, these dudes were, like, the baddest dudes on the res. Like, no, I'd fuck with these guys. And, like, if someone was going to – they'd confront whoever.

Like, these dudes were gnarly, burly Indian logger dudes. And they would just sit in the truck and knock it out until the sun came up. Because we'd be up there sharpening our saws and stuff, getting ready. And just kind of stretching a little bit and just getting ready for the day. And they wouldn't get out of the truck with those whistles and knocks. And they'd sit in the truck. So I'd been around it but didn't know it. And this time, I was doing howls.

And this thing came from the north. Now, when you say you were doing howls, for folks who haven't seen the show, you imitate what you've heard in recordings and what you know they believe are primate howls that they attribute to bigfoot yeah so you can there's a bunch of those you can find on the internet and i was doing those and all of a sudden i thought i heard a wolf howling back or like a wolf cross hybrid my buddy used to have you know everyone used to have like a wild back seven eights wolf or like a ski and they don't listen to you at all yeah i thought it was one of those things and uh it was coming down the ridge and it then i go that's it made some weird

sounds like almost like more coyote kind of sound but it sounded then i'll just never forget it did kind of one that sounds sort of like mine but different it sounded way more primal and just gnarly and it just goes i just remember every hair my body shut up i just went holy shit i'm actually having a big foot encounter and things been walking towards me at that point they've been walking at me for probably 20 minutes i could hear it coming closer and closer and it was just so loud i was carrying forever i was looking down over the klamath river and um it just came and when it came into the tree line i I was sitting in this meadow. I Was like there's a dirt road that runs along the top of the hill and then the left side is Redwood National Park on the right side. It's Timberland. There's a few ranch in holdings old family and holdings in there and

I was sitting up there and I was this Indian woman There's a little Indian village near this dirt road about 12 miles down Said she'd saw one and when I was talking to my cop buddy John Freitas that day on the phone he said it was real this is like cell phones and Humboldt back then were like real unless you're right in the middle of town didn't work too good like I heard him say yeah May 21st you know woman saw it run across the road right and I knew what she because we logged up in there I knew that whole area I knew exactly what he was talking about it was a big deer and elk meadow. So I was like, okay, shit, I know where that is.

And I was like jammed up there. And I had the night scope. I sat there and this thing came into the tree line. It started doing these crazy roars and screaming, snapping trees. And this thing was huge, gnarly. I couldn't believe it. And when it came in the tree line to my right at my 2 o'clock position, see what happens?

Like if this is the dirt road here, there's this meadow that's kind of crescent-shaped, half moon. There's a little timber stand here, brushing timber right here, and then there's a dirt road behind here. I was sitting on the other side of the road facing the meadow with my night scope sitting in this beach chair looking out this way. This thing came in here at my nine o'clock. I was facing this way.

This came in my nine o'clock, and right when it did like this craziest roar and snap this tree from over here at two o'clock was this gnarly power knock just crack they'll take a branch or something just bash a tree or a stump or whatever and we call them power knocks when they do that or wood knocks or lighter but just this full gnarly power knock boom just to let you know they could do that to your head right Right? That's what they're doing. Dude, if they were ever going to kill anyone, they would have killed me

that night because... Or they're musicians. Yeah, that's their... They have a really primitive band. You know, I've asked a lot of natives about that because they come around

tribal dances and stuff and I've talked to people... They do? Yeah, they'll... They're probably like, keep the noise down. What the fuck? You're trying to sleep out here.

They'll kind of dig on it. They dig music. Apparently, from what I've from whatever they don't make any kind of music what does what did they sound like like what does the house sound like the house can you give us a version of the howl my my version yeah it only did mine once from way out but it's kind of should i do it yeah yeah yeah like a little bit yeah Yeah, that's good. That's good. Like, hey, don't make me laugh. Wow. But I'd do it louder if we were outside. There was the videos that, or rather the audio recordings that some people have gotten of screams in the woods that they have identified as primate.

Right. Where was that that they got those? Because it's pretty. All over the. Sounds like that. have identified as primate. Right. Where was that that they got those? Because it's pretty... All over the... Sounds like that. Missouri, Mississippi, Florida, Virginia. How come nobody's got any pictures of them, man? They're shitty pictures. And cameras don't work like the human eye, right, too?

It's like your eye focus is so quick. Because they're so used to getting shot at and they see a shoot at everything. But I think they know what cameras are. But when they see something come up, they're just gone. Like, they're not used to getting shot at and they see us shoot at everything i think but i think they know what cameras are but when they see something come up they're just gone like they're not sticking around they're not going to sit there but there is videos there's a lot of videos of them but there is like we know people that have gotten them but you can't tell it's just so shitty low quality low res right and like like you know it's they're almost always in the shadows and like it'll

be bright outside then they're in the in the shadow. Like, it'll be bright outside. Then they're in the shadow. People aren't using high-quality gear. Because if you hadn't personally had an encounter, at a certain point in time, you have to look at all these different people, their shitty photos, and the things that don't really look like a Bigfoot. Right. Well, there's a lot of hoaxers and crazy people.

A lot of people, right? Well, most is for sure hoaxers. Almost all. But isn't that annoying that you're dealing with, you're in a business where half the people are full of shit let's say we're being nice no i think that's being nice i think people that people that research bigfoot no no not research bigfoot that have claimed to have seen him i think i think i don't think half of them are full of shit i don't think they're i don't no way because there's i've talked to over 4,000 people that have seen them, and maybe 100

or 200 were trying to bullshit me. Only 100 or 200, really? Because they, this is before I was on TV and stuff, mostly, you know what I mean? Right. Like, I'd just be talking about, you know, people in the community. Like, I've talked to a couple of my professors when I was going to school, had seen them. We did this. All kinds of people.

We did this thing once. You can't trust it. Once you put it on TV, like your show, I see people that raise their hands, and I'm like, this motherfucker is making this shit up. There's town hall meetings. When did you see a Bigfoot? You could tell some folks will just make shit up to get on camera.

I did a show for CBS once. It was called Game Show in my head. One of the things we did was we would show up somewhere pretending to be a real news crew. And the assignment that the contestant had was you have to get someone to agree to have seen something that they didn't actually see. Right. Because your witness took off and it's a UFO sighting. So you have to get someone, tell them you're going to put them on the news and say listen you know i was uh we were about to film this guy do you think you could pretend that you had seen the ufo every fucking one of them said yes it was crazy you could tell

though you couldn't tell man when you watch the playback you couldn't tell they were bullshit it was no different than listening to people on your show talk about bigfoot you know there is a difference so because you know what's funny is a lot of – we deal with a lot of law enforcement people because they go out to rural residences, like break-ins, like when they're stealing chickens or freezers. Bigfoot steal chickens and chickens. Yeah, they're omnivores. And a lot of cops watch our – the guy John Ferdis, the cop I was out with before, he's certified federally to be a deception expert he trains other law

agencies and we've heard like other uh police training agencies like when they teach them like uh uh deception like what to look for when people are lying and they watch they watch our show for the witnesses and they said they're surprised at how they aren't lying. Almost all the ones they see. Really? Because I bet that guy sucks at that. No, no, other ones. Other cops. Other people that instruct on that. I'm better at that shit than him.

I could just see Roscoe Pico. Yeah, I'm a trained. I'm a trained expert in the laws and the arts of deception. You ain't going to sneak by me. The Duke boys? Like if that kind of officer said I was a trained professor. How many times have you been out on a show, though, where you're going with the witnesses,

and you go, man, I think this guy might be full of shit. We just did, I can't tell you which ones happened. I don't think none of the ones that we aired, and dude, if someone was pulling a prank, believe me, they'd be crowing about it. It's not a pull in the prank. Just they're crazy and they want a friend. Instead, they have a Bigfoot story. Yeah.

Oh, there's some of that for sure. But we don't put those people on the show. They might show clips from the town hall, but we don't go out to their spot with them. And a lot of those guys that we go out with, they've already been vetted several times. Local BFR investigators have gone there with the person gone over the whole sighting although we did have we just did one on the show where we're pretty sure that we don't know for sure but we think the guy was we're pretty sure the dude's lying you know well if you guys are sure the guy was lying i bet he's fucking lying yeah you know yeah like moneymaker those i don't you've seen the show, right?

Yeah. Moneymaker is just real, stares at him and, like, you know, just thinks. It's funny that it's his name, first of all. His real name is Matt Moneymaker. That's hilarious. His dad's a famous bankruptcy attorney here in Beverly Hills named Rich Moneymaker. That's even funnier. I know.

Rich Moneymaker. The bankruptcy attorney. I mean, if you were going to have a Coen Brothers movie, and in it was going to be a plot line that involved a Bigfoot TV show, you guys would be perfectly cast. You know, you, Bobo the Sasquatch Expert, is always bigger than the video. Right. Matt Moneymaker, the guy's name is Moneymaker. That alone sounds like a character.

It's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you guys all get together? Like, how did this show get started? I hooked up with Matt through, well, he runs the BFRO. I don't know if you ever looked at that website. Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization.

It's got like 50,000 sightings on it, whatever. And it was real hard to get in back then. And I was just like whatever fisherman, logger guy, didn't have any credentials or anything like that that but i always went out and i knew a lot of the natives out there and i you know worked in the woods out there and i spent time out there and i talked to people and i just need the lay of the land so i hooked up with this guy john fredis and then i was like a volunteer whatever the bfr for a few years and then in 2003 they were filming that show mysterious encounters on outdoor life network, on Outdoor Life Network. It was Matt and Autumn.

I don't know if you ever saw it. It was just one season. But Matt and Autumn were on it. Then I was on like three episodes with them. We were cruising around Northern Cal. And then he made me like a whatever investigator. You had to go through steps being an investigator. You had to know what you were talking about.

And maybe now there's definitely people that are in the Bfo now there's like several hundred people across the country it's good because it's a broader net but some of the people just don't have the woods experience and like when they go out there they don't uh like people misidentify stuff all the time like you know a lot of the stuff i a lot of stuff i gotta do when people some of them bigfoot action out there you get out there and it's a bobcat and heat or there's a barred owl moved in you know it's some barred i'll make i know yeah it could be just stuff like or bear or whatever but i'll say this for all the times that people say they saw bigfoot and it was a bear i'll bet you there's way more times where people saw bigfoot and go i just saw

a weird bear right because they brain came and processed bigfoot especially before the 60s there's my buddy scott mclean lives right down here in santa monica he's compiled that he's putting a book out and it's all like pre-1950 newspaper accounts he's got like 1500 of them from north america back to the 1700s of people reporting orangutans because it was before gorillas were discovered then once just gorillas were discovered people the description switched from orangutan to gorilla would be what they compare it to or a wild man they there's wild man stories like um up in humble they call them the loggers call them since since the 1800s wood apes and brush apes there's there's a 130 something names up and down the west coast with monkey or ape in the name

like monkey creek ape canyon monkey ridge ape ridge like they're all over the place and they'd get that name because that's where the brush apes lived jesus how fucking cool would it be if they actually got some real footage some real honest to good goodness you can't fuck with it. At least iPhone 1 footage. Or captured one, or captured a Sasquatch. Tracked one and dragged it out of the woods. There's footage. They won't release it. We just went there.

We did an episode there. They won't release. No, it's a tribe. They got on a security camera behind the casino. What? And why won't they release it? Dude, it's super heavy. what and why won't they release it dude it's it's super heavy uh the squash to the natives is um listen they were able to do anything for money look what they did with these casinos

they'll take the money they set up casinos down there they just need to offer them some cash no dude there's certain there's some tribes there's a few tribes like that most of them though there's still old people in charge that. They listen to them about that kind of stuff, like cultural stuff. So the Sasquatch video, if that's their culture, that you would never be able to release a video of it? It's funny because I've talked to some tribes

where they said that it signifies the end of the world if Sasquatch is brought in, like captured. What? Yeah. That's like their... That life has gotten so crazy that someone caught a Bigfoot. Or, you know, brought in a body, whatever. Well, now this guy, who I think is full of shit, who's telling a story about shooting the baby,

why wouldn't he just bring a piece of it with him? Why wouldn't he cut off a finger? If he's willing to kill one of these fucking things, like it's a dog or like it's a coyote or something or why don't you just take the blood to another blood dna person well they said at that point his buddy came over super pissed at him for shooting it yeah and then they were starting a trip because at this point getting really dark and they're just going like okay there's got to be another bit it takes two to make babies there's got to be another big one. They definitely regret not bringing it,

because they could have brought the baby when it weighed like 30, 35 pounds. That doesn't make any sense to me. I don't believe them. It sounds like horseshit. It sounds like horseshit. The guy doesn't have a photo of it. He shoots a Bigfoot, and he's not going to bring something back. There's no way you would bring nothing back.

But they mapped the genome of that flesh sample he brought in. Yeah, but that's some shit they found there after the fact. He didn't take it from the baby and bring it with him. Right, yeah, yeah. There's no direct chain of custody. But, dude, you can't argue DNA. Well, if you really do say that the DNA has been mapped and it is some new hominid.

Yeah, but isn't the woman crazy that the DNA... No, I didn't say that. Well, I mean, at least there's some controversy about it. There's some controversy about it, yeah. If there's any controversy, just take it to a regular DNA map. Oh, it's hard. Like a known company. There is.

And the other labs are coming up with the same conclusions as her. What's her name? Meltram? Melba. M-E-L-B-A. Ketchum. K-E-T-C-H-U-M. She has, I guess, DNA diagnostics down in Texas.

Wow. But we went to a genetic lab recently with some hair from that, back when that whole thing, you know the video we told you about, the video where the 10-foot Bigfoot walks up to the dumpster? The thing's about 10 foot. Where was this? Oklahoma. How good is the video?

I never got to see it, but we know people that have seen it. You didn't get to see it? The thing's about 10 foot. Where was this? Oklahoma. How good is the video? I never got to see it, but we know people that have seen it. You didn't get to see it. Why haven't you gotten to see it? It's locked in the vault, and the tribal chairman won't let anyone even see it anymore. Because what happened was word leaked out that there was Bigfoots. When you go to this place in Oklahoma, they travel the river routes. They follow the rivers. There's thick brush and bogs along the rivers they travel that especially at night and this casino was near

was near enough to that they'd come up there and they're they're real comfortable around natives because natives don't shoot at them very often it's rare for a native to shoot at a squash they respect they leave them alone they'll put out food for them and leave is what they do and they don't have any photos of them either some some have their upper up in Humboldt there was a family of um some local Indians that shot footage just about from 400 yards away and it's looking down there they're out scouting elk and this thing a female was feeding down in the in the bottom eating some kind of vegetative matter I'm not sure whether it was eating but she was eating digging something up like it might have been some kind of root and they filmed it for like 13 14 minutes but you know it's like 400 yards away

with things probably about seven foot tall and 400 pounds so this woman um miss ketchum who's uh doing this this this study uh it's she's apparently putting it up for peer review is that what's going on yeah so she's made the peer reviews going on the yeah her conclusions are done the peer review is going on right now and oxford university is one of the labs that's in on the dna study now there's um i can't say i mean it's their deal i can't i can't say um what other labs are doing it but you'll you would know the names. There's a big public university. One of the guys runs a genetic department that's doing it.

And their initial results are they're blown away. There's a picture of a Bigfoot back. It's the best picture. I think that's fake. Is it fake? I don't know. It might not be. I think it is. What if Bigfoots were born very big, and they only were big one day, That's fake. Is it fake? I don't know. It might not be. I think it is.

What if Bigfoots were born very big, and they only were big one day, and they grew really small? Brian, shut the fuck up now. They grew backwards or something. Thank you, Joe. You just broke every person's brain who's listening to this thing. They're not from Ork. How dare you. who's listening to this thing. They're not from Ork.

How dare you. So your first encounter came after you were already obsessed with Bigfoot. Oh, totally. What started it off? How did you become obsessed? I told you my story. I talked to a trapper, and he told me it was real, and then I was fucking freaked out.

I saw the Patterson-Giblin film on some TV show when I was about five. Because I remember I had just started kindergarten, and I could take books out at school at that point. I was looking for Bigfoot books. And it just caught you. You just became obsessed with it. Yeah, and then I grew up down here. I was a surfer and all that and you know skate punk and

after high school I was going to I was doing I was probably outrigger canoes if you know those Hawaiian canoes outriggers uh-huh yeah I was racing those and we were like the top team in the country and you know doing like world championships and all that stuff so I stayed down here longer but I was wanting to move up to Humboldt because I was into surfing I like big waves and there was Bigfoot and Big Surf up there and I was like man this place is killer I'm going there so I moved up there then I started uh did some logging jobs and started meeting people in the community and worked with some natives and kind of got in more and more and just really started delving in like if I heard about a report I'd go check it out um talked to whoever I could I'd have like Bigfoot

shirts or hats I'd wear them and people come to me go you believe in bigfoot you know you know i'd say yeah and they'd say yeah i saw one one time you know it was crazy how many people you got in rural areas how many people and it's there's so many there's so much hard data for them like where you look where the sightings are it's generally 90 percent 90 plus percent of the sightings over 90 of the sightings are, it's generally 90% of, 90 plus percent of the sightings, over 90% of the sightings are, you can follow, it's like a, you look at it where there's 20 inches of rainfall or more. Like there's.

That's where they live. Yeah, yeah. And there's, like there's a bell curve where you'd see what the natural occurring animal for like foot size. What a God, I should have brushed up on this stuff. You just gotta think about saying something stupid on front of a camera when I'm doing Bigfoot stuff. There's a lot of data. As soon as you start saying you believe in Bigfoot,

it's impossible to have everybody take you seriously. Fuck those people. They're wrong. Well, eventually, if it is a real thing, someone's going to get something conclusive, right? And they'll be justified. Well most what's the most conclusive thing besides the patterson footage that i think is bullshit that's just the enormous amount of footprints that have been cast for the folks on you stream he brought me a uh a replica of the best footprint and it's fucking

awesome if that really is a from an, holy shit is that thing big. Yeah, and actually I got a copy of the hand. It left a knuckle mark too where it stepped up over a four-foot step up. It went up and put its knuckles in the ground. I got that out in the car too. I can show you. But see those little ridge patterns? Only living flesh leaves those ridge.

A cut-out foot or like a fiberglass mold would not leave that ridge pattern and that moisture. Right, this, all this stuff right here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any tracker will tell you that. So this, you think, is for sure a legit Bigfoot footprint? Oh, yeah, it's considered the best one. The best one without clear dermals, and that was cast by a deputy hereford in Graves County, Washington.

And when you say clear dermals, for folks who don't know, that's one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence for the people, the scientific community that support the idea of a giant primate, is dermal ridges that you have similar to fingerprints. You have those on the bottom of your foot, and these animals actually leave these in some of the tracks which would be incredibly difficult to replicate do they jimmy chill cut he he taught the fbi labs um in in quantico virginia like when you go through the academy he's the latent fingerprint expert blah blah well they were trying to see like when they found just a like a gun and a

murder scene there's prints on it and like just no matches that he was the guy they used for 15 years he went around and fingerprinted and footprinted every primate he could in zoos research labs and printed thousands of gorillas orangutans monkeys um chimpanzees blah blah gibbons and uh so after all this time it was because since they have a smaller gene pool they don't interbreed was the idea was they were trying to see was there any pattern discernible like asians or africans or europeans or native americans like if they just found a gun with a fingerprint was there any thing that would that would show what it's from like what race at least it was right and the answer was no but as a result of that study he became the world's leading expert on primate

god i'm gonna say this wrong dramatic dramatic god dramatic glyphics dermal ridges dermal yeah right i get little tongues i get tied up on some of that stuff but uh i can spell it but um and so anyways he's testified in court for like smuggling cases you know people bring it in and they'll say no this animal was born here and right he'll he can go ahead and show the fingerprint spot and so he studied the tracks and he's and this guy's put people away in over 400 capital cases he was the expert witness on is where the evidence was fingerprints and he went on on discovery channel and said i stake my professional reputation and name on that these are genuine there's an undiscovered primate leaving these tracks

and when people are saying like well you just opened up like you know yourself to like have like or all these 400 convictions you've gotten now the defense lawyers could say this guy's crazy what right and he goes i can prove it in court So he's not even worried about it. And he hasn't had to, but he said he could. What's interesting to me is the idea that there could be an undiscovered animal and that someone someday is going to bring it in, just like they have with the big chimpanzee that was a legend in the Congo. It's called a Bondo, actually. Bonobos are the little ones.

Oh, okay. They're like a cousin to a regular chimp. Yeah, yeah. They fuck a lot. Right. They're the crazy, horny ones. Yeah. The Bondo apes are these giant chimps.

Or Biliby. Yeah, Biliby. B-I-L-I. Yeah, yeah. They're in a part of the Congo that's really, really fucking hard to get to. And since the 1900s, there were stories of these big, giant, gray chimps. And that was from the Michael Crichton movie, The Congo.

They actually depicted these things in there, these big, giant, gray chimps. And they'll walk bipedal sometimes. Yeah, yeah. They're called lion killers in the native tongue. Yeah, exactly, yeah. They have two words for chimps. They call them tree beaters or lion killers in the native tongue exactly yeah they have two words for chimps they call them tree beaters or lion killers and there's some chimps they have photos

of dead ones i mean these are real legit 100 real primates that are still like very very controversial it's it's still there's a lot of people that didn't know they existed until the 90s weren't weren't sure till carl carl armand who's a swiss wildlife photographer he he um got some evidence uh some bones and some stuff and then became obsessed with it and started going there but he has camera trap photos of them right they have not till the 2000s exactly exactly and he brought back some plaster casts like those that weren't even as good as this right and there's more there's more evidence for sasquatch than those than those uh billy apes really yeah well there's actual real good photographs of these well yeah so high resolution now there is um but the but the point is that

for the longest time people were saying that this was bullshit right now they know 100 that this is real and the congo has people living in it. Right. There ain't nobody living in these places. Not up there too much. So up in that area, they're just pushing in there now. There's still tons of virgin timber they're cutting down up there. Right. The Congo is so huge, too.

Another thing people don't realize. It's literally almost as dense as the entire distance between California and New York. There's that much Congo. Really? It's fucking enormous. I didn't know it was that big. Yeah, I might be wrong. Not the country, but the Congo base.

The Congo. The Congo River base. The jungle. The rainforest. Right, okay, I thought you were talking about the country. Yeah, yeah. The Congo base. That animal being something that was mythological and now is a real thing does

that give you guys hope does that like make bigfoot people like oh yeah see bitch you can there's some shit out there that you couldn't find i used to be pretty militant like sometimes violent in my defense of the sasquatch existence but i don't even worry about i've seen them and i know i know there's enough tissue samples in there now getting examined. There's so much going on. There's a lot of hair experts getting in on the hair because they've – I'm not sure exactly what it is, but something about the platelets where they line up. They've gotten better microscopes or something.

They can see them better. I'm not sure what it is, but these hair experts are getting really into the Sasquatch hair because it's unique. There's nothing that matches it. And there's just certain characteristics about Sasquatch hair. Every sample that's legitimately handed in doesn't try to be horse or bear or whatever. But every sample that gets turned in has these same characteristics. And there's a joint study going on with different experts in that field

who are working around from like, from different countries even that are all examining these hairs and, like, marking these markers. And it's like they're real excited about it. You know what's really going to be interesting? When the skies are filled with drones, and the drones can take images of anything anywhere they want at any time, and they just fucking send them over the Pacific Northwest. They already kind of have that with everyone having cell phones.

That's just the thing that I just don't understand. If there's so many people that see this and there's still no photos. There's photos. And the hair and the blood and everything like that. I know that it doesn't take that long for them to say, this is deer blood, this is so-and-so blood, this is so-and-so blood. But if they're all saying that it's unknown,

then has there been multiple agencies that have put out reports about this? Or is there any... What the fuck are you talking about, son? I don't understand. Like, if there's been so many blood samples and and hair samples and they're all being tested and they can't find out what this blood is because they could it doesn't take that long for them to take blood and go this is deer blood you know right so so if they're all saying

like hey we don't know what this blood is have they been giving out like statements or press reports or you know stuff about this? Is there information out there about them saying, we don't know what this blood is? Yeah, there is. But the other thing you've got to understand is the science world is so political and so backstabbing, and they're so afraid to do something unconventional because you just get barred in the field, that they're real reticent to do stuff like that.

But there are some that have like dr fernbach and some others that have and there's others that look at it they won't there's a lot of people that work in the bigfoot field anonymously like other scientists that collaborate with them that just don't want to deal with any ridicule or you know get not get promoted or whatever it may be yeah i watched a documentary where a doctor, some sort of a professor at a university, was talking about the fact that even though he supports Bigfoot, he does it very reluctantly, he supports the idea that Bigfoot exists.

It goes because, quite honestly, until one's discovered, until there's conclusive proof, he says it's just a point of ridicule. It's just one of those things. Are you talking about Dr. Meldrum at Idaho State? I don't know where he's from. Yeah, yeah. He's a genius. He's written like four books on foot anatomy,

how humans have gone from quad... Like back in evolution, how we went from quadruped to bipedal. He's like the foremost expert guy in the world on that. He was actually one of the guys at the body recovery site with us when we went up in there. He believes the shooter story also. He was there. Everyone the guys at the body recovery site with us when we went up in there. And he believes the shooter story also. He was there.

He believes that guy? Yeah, everyone that was there that week came away believing him. Why did he bring something back? It's silly. I'll tell you later off the air. Okay. All right. Well, there's some sort of a secret, ladies and gentlemen, and I can't share with you.

It might be the answer to this whole crazy puzzle. It just would answer something a little bit. Well, they were pounding beers, and they just saw that warden guy, and they didn't want to, like, they had a drive to get back to camp, and the dude was afraid to get, like a dui or something because they're you know i don't even run out in the woods like you know just drinking beers driving around right out the track whatever jesus christ and those are the guys that shot a bigfoot baby i know well only the one guy did the other guy was anti the whole time and other than that like what is a

what is a good piece of evidence that someone can look at? Freeman footage. Freeman footage. I'm convinced that's real. Freeman footage. What is Freeman footage? Paul Freeman was the Mill Creek watershed up in the Blue Mountains of northeast Oregon and southeast Washington. There's this huge area.

A lot of municipalities have their own water districts, and they'll own tens of thousands of acres of watershed land, and you're not allowed up in there because it's a water spot. They don't want diesel in it or anything. And he was the patrol guy up in there, and he was seeing Bigfoots find their tracks and actually seeing them in the daylight up there. So he started carrying a video camera,

and he got footage of that, and I'm 100% convinced that's real. Brian, pull that shit up. Freeman Bigfoot footage. This is from the 90s? Yeah, and then he has another clip that he wouldn't, he died. He got diabetes and died young about 15 years ago. But he has another clip where he falls down and starts screaming, kind of crying.

He gets bluff charged for one. He gets it real close to the big male, comes up at him like full gorilla style charge. And he got footage of it, and he never released it because he looks so bad in it. You know, he got, you know, pissed his pants or something. Like, literally. I just saw something in the woods. Look at that.

And those tracks were authenticated can't see much up there here i hear the brush popping and stuff oh there you go I keep watching get up here learn seeing me yeah's pretty... from watching these videos, like whenever I think of I'm potentially throwing a Bigfoot, I never take the camera off of it. Where did that doggone thing went? It crossed right up there. It probably dropped on the ground. Yeah. I just wonder. It should be. Right here.

Somewhere. Does he see it again? Or is that it? I don't think so. Oh, is that it? I don't think so. Oh, is that it? What makes you convinced that that's real? Just like the size of it and the way it moves. People went back up there and said it was well over seven and a half feet tall.

I don't know where the comparison video is for it, but people did go up there. And then right after that, they ended up clear-cutting that whole thing and putting like a campground right there. They were actually staking it out. There's some ribbons. You can see the flag tying on a couple of the trees. It was marked for being turned into a campground.

That, to me, looks way better than the Wright-Patterson, or the Wright-Patterson Air Force. Roger Patterson footage, just because it's not as clear. The other thing about the Patterson film is the copies you're seeing on TV, every time they make a clone copy, it loses up to 30% resolution. The original footage piece, which no one knows where it is now, probably Alda Atlee has it, is really clear. Clearer than that.

Oh, what you see on TV, a lot of... Nat Geo did a good digitization of it, and they've shown that. That's the clearest version you can get now. But the stuff you'd see on TV back in the day, it would be all blurry. The original's not blurry. Who's this guy, Bob Hieronymus,

that says that he was the gorilla? Douchebag. Alcoholic guy. Just a liar. Gimlin's neighbor. It's like, dude, okay. You know what? The whole Kennedy assassination is over. I'm the one that shot Kennedy. It was me. Case closed. So he's just some crazy

dude who's trying to take credit for it. He's not crazy. He's just an asshole. He's just kind of a... It's a pretty dicky move. If it really was a Bigfoot, if it really was a video of a live Sasquatch, and this motherfucker's running around pretending that he was a part of a hoax.

Well, he's... If you're into this, you can look it up. Roger Knight wrote... I forget what it's called. He wrote a 74-page thing where he interviewed Hieronymus and went through and tore apart his story. He's made like five different statements about how the costume was constructed. Well, Gimlin said that it was possible that it was a hoax.

He said now he's older. He says, I was totally convinced no one could fool me. And, of course, I'm an older man now, and I think there could have been the possibility of a hoax, but it would have had to have been really well planned by Roger that's what he said I've talked to him I was just with Bob this weekend he's the raddest

I swear to God he was one of the first guys Evil Knievel he was like a daredevil guy he's just a rad guy and salt of the earth we were asking him about that and he said the way the questioning was going he was just getting badgered asking him about that and he said you know the way the questioning was going he was just getting badgered badgered with it he said right like there's always a

possibility you could be hooked but he's like i know what i saw the thing was i was looking at eye level for my horse they when they rode their there's b-roll footage where you know they ride the horse next to the tracks and the horse prints are not going as deep as those footprints. Really? Yeah. What do you think these fucking things eat? Everything. Everything a bear eats. They're omnivores. They obviously have a high caloric intake to be that big.

So in the wintertime, they probably eat more meats. They'll hunt deer, elk. They'll even hunt bear, black bear. They hunt them? Yeah, yeah. Do they use tools? Do they use weapons? Sometimes.

We've seen some evidence where they'll flesh deer or elk out of a meadow. They'll come running. They'll take the same routes every time. One will roar at one side. Hunters have said they've been up. Bow hunters creeping up on a on a little herd in the meadow or something and also just god-awful roar scream come from one side they all run to the other side and they're whack you know and um you've seen like where they'll just take a club and as the deer go running by just club on the front legs and shatter their front legs and go

over and break they'll break the neck when they kill them they break the neck so they kill them with objects they use tools a lot of times like a log or something I think most times they just use their bare hands they're that big that they can kill

do they deal with their bare hands oh easy easy they'll pick them up they'll take a full grown elk and sling it over

their shoulder and walk off Jesus Christ like I've heard so many stories like dude not people that are like trying to

bullshit me like you know just people tell what they saw you know obviously there's not people that like trying to bullshit me like you know just people telling what they saw and like you know obviously there's some people that you can go

that guy's full of shit or whatever but I'm talking like genuine people that you're talking and just going like this guy's not shitting me

and you hear these stories and I've never seen him kill I've only seen one really moving good and it was at night

it was on the Hickory again the Hickory Apache Reservation how many times have you seen Bigfoot probably a half dozen but only half dozen only one time in the daylight and i didn't see it it just

was standing there and i turned my head and gone and i didn't see it again that's when i smelt real good and then um the one at hickory i saw 2004 it came what we had all these infrared cameras and stuff pointed the tree line and it walked across the south alpha field and came into our camp everyone was down to fire it's kind of a spread out camp we're at the chief of police for the he was the coordinator for all law enforcement on the hickory apache res and we were on his property and no one this dude was a badass he got in trouble for being a little too uh you know he you know beat the shit out of people you like like he couldn't couldn't prove some guy broke into some old lady's house. You know, it's a res. Everyone knows what's going on.

This guy's on meth, whatever. He's stealing. And if he couldn't catch the guy, he would just take him outside and beat the shit out of him. Like, one of those guys? So no one's coming up to this guy's ranch. He was the very end ranch. Then it was the Continental Divide behind there.

And it went for like 25 miles to the next set of houses and uh this thing came from the continental divide side came walking up and i didn't see it walk up i i wasn't aware of it until we had this guy who's a special forces colonel and the special forces not the guy not jamie the guy i was with when i saw the one on bluff at night and i thought it was him dressed all in black and just weren't because it was below freezing we're like 9 000 feet and i thought it was him all bundled up wearing like a parker i wasn't sure but just it was all black i was going what you doing because it was i could hear fingernails going up and down the side of a tent like you like that fabric just with fingernails and that fabric sound nylon and it was going around the tent and it got over to the front

where the it was our bait tent we were keeping all the food we were putting out for bait was that and it was it was kneeling down i'm like why and it looked like it was because it walked can i get up for a second and show you yeah i was watching it for a while and i had night vision or i had night vision around my neck and i didn't look because you didn't you don't want to be like the creep like get caught staring at someone through night vision at night you know right so i didn't even look i thought it was just a one of us i mean it walked like a man except for it um it was walking like a man but it looked like he looked like he was looking on the ground for something but i but i think it was was in hindsight knowing how carefully about where

they step not to step where they leave they're real conscious not to leave tracks like that for the most part and it was i think it was where it was stepping, so it wouldn't step in something and leave a print, but it was just walking like this. So it needs to step in, like, mud or something like that to leave a... Well, when it walked, it walked like this the whole time. But walking, man, they would kneel down, like, just get on one knee like that and mess around at the front of the tent. And they went over to this tent where the only girl that was Canada

was going to her tent and going back and forth. It's hard for people to hear you when you say this. Oh, sorry. It was going back and forth. And I watched it for about five minutes and the moon was coming up. There was almost a full moon. I can't remember the exact moon. And it was walking and then the moon was just about to hit the field. It was an old alfalfa field this guy had and he would plant it but the deer and elk were so thick up there he just gave up and let them eat it. He just quit farming it, and there's just alfalfa growing for like 100 acres.

And so this thing walked back across the field as the moonlight was coming down. It just walked real fast. I thought it was the colonel. I go back down to camp, and they were like, was that you throwing rocks, pebbles at us? There was pebbles being thrown down by the guys. They thought it was me. If you're a squatch, you don't screw around. You don't do like, hey, you throwing rocks, pebbles at us? There was pebbles being thrown down by the guys. They thought it was me. And like,

you know, if you're a squat, you don't screw like, you don't do like, Hey, let's fool this guy. You just don't do shit like that. If you're out or you'll get banned,

you don't want to go out there. If you're a squatcher, is that what you said? Yeah. Okay. The verb or the, I thought you went, it said,

if you're, I thought you were saying, if you were a squatch, like saying, Oh no, if you're a squatcher, you throw rocks at people. Oh yeah,

dude. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. And so I'll just finish real quick. It walked away, and I go back down there, and everyone's there. Had this guy that was bigger than me go stand by the tent. I went back to my original position. He was walking around the tents, and I didn't.

You know, something that's seven foot or like six and a half foot, it's not real clear. I hadn't made mental notes how exactly big these tents were. And if someone was walking around, how big they'd look in scale. But when I saw this guy, I was about 6'5 or so down there walking around the tent. He was just dwarfed by this thing. It wasn't that much taller, maybe 6'9, 7'0. But it was just easily twice the weight of him or more.

Easily, at least. And where'd this thing go it walked back and just walked straight across the meadow and in the moonlight just as it walked past the moonlight popped up and started hitting that whole area and it just went back in the woods and my dad who was a total skeptic he came out there just you know camp for a week and have like a father-son trip he actually heard him like talking and uh not not right then but then uh a night before that he'd heard them talking like a couple of them up there and they were actually talking they do like this you ever heard the sierra sounds no i got in the car i'll burn you a cover these guys got hours of recordings in the sierra nevadas of them jabbering away those things are being translated

by military translators right now. There's a breakthrough on that front, too. There's all kinds of breakthroughs going down right now. So this sound that they make, was it anything like what this other guy was talking about? The guy who says he shot a baby says they were like mumbling, like almost like they were deaf. Yeah, he said they sounded like they were profoundly deaf.

I've heard him do this a few times, and it sounds like to me, what it sounded like to me was kind of like, maybe like a monkey trying to talk Chinese, something like that, you know? That's funny, a monkey trying to talk Chinese. Yeah, but like more grumbly, though, like more, and I've heard the low mumble, they mumble. So the idea is that they have a language or they just yeah yeah all the natives and you talk to any native anyone they'll tell you yeah they have language and they can understand certain words we say they can understand certain words we're saying but we don't have a video the one of these things we don't have dude the

patterson giblin the freeman yeah but they could be bullshit. No. Okay, Freeman, I'm not so sure, but I can tell you for... Yeah, there's been... And there's other breakthroughs going down on the Patterson Gimlin film. What is the breakthroughs? They've actually found some of the original trees that were back behind. There's been so much regrowth that these guys... This guy, he's the state park ranger, like the ranger cop up there for humboldt redwoods him robert letterman then another guy steve strupert the guy owns bigfoot books there in

willow creek spent two years going out there and going over the site and finding and they actually found some of the original trees that are obscured you can't see them from the creek anymore because it's been it's been 43 years or whatever 45 and um they're all grown up and uh they found trees in the background they're in the original pg film so we're gonna go in there and uh with all this like 3d laser scanning stuff they're gonna be able to get three-dimensional a three-dimensional view of the whole of the whole creek go back in plug in the pg film like overlay it and they'll get a three-dimensional like to like a half inch how big the feet how big the subject in the PG film, like overlay it, and they'll get a three-dimensional to like a half inch how big the subject of the film is. Well, what if it's only 5'10"?

Then what do you do? If it's only 5'10", I don't know. I just don't see that happening. I don't know. You know, I trust Bob, you know, because Bob Gimlin's a really good friend of mine. Right, but he himself said, but you said that he was badgered. Yeah, but he'll tell you, you'd love this guy.

You would love to hang out with this guy. I bet I would. I mean, I believe him. I'm not saying he's full of shit, but there's been a lot of things. He says no way. He said there's no way. He said it had to be over 500 pounds. And this guy's expert hunter, and he's like watching the muscles move.

There's like nine different muscle limits you can see in the video. Yeah, but isn't that possible you just put some fake muscles on it dude the guy chambers that made the planet of the apes back in the 60s when that was made said he could not do that he could not he went to his death that's it because there was always a rumor that he did it and he was just like nope was i never did it he goes i wish i could have done that and you're talking about two cowboys dude roger was like unemployed at the time coming with make and roger did buy a costume from um i think his name was philip his name was last name was morris out in north carolina he made a gorilla suit

and dude it's a shitty 400 gorilla suit it was for recreations in his in his documentary and that's not the suit that he wore in the so anyways there's there's there's controversy around it for sure but there's always people looking they're like i just wish there was some better shit oh we all do and you know there's some footage that's gonna be coming out that's in conjunction with the dna study it's called the kentucky footage and i've only seen part of it but people that have seen it say it's it's the real deal there's a face shot how many do you think are alive if you had, if you had a guess? Well, we're going to start getting some hard evidence on that

due to the DNA samples, but I would say there can't... People say there's got to be at least 2,000 just to have as many as there are in North America, and you're talking Canada, and Canada's big too. I'd say my guess would be probably 4,000 to 6,000 in North America. How the fuck are there 4,000 to 6,000 things and no one has a good show? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Dude, you're looking at some giant ape man.

You're shitting your pants. People freeze. Where do they sleep, you think? Do they make caves? They definitely go to caves in extreme weather, really cold, real hot. Native state where we live, they use these. There'll be fires in Southern Humboldt, and smoke pops out in Southern Oregon,

150 miles away. These caves are all connected. Oh, really? Yeah, it's the biggest cave complex in the world. But that wouldn't explain everywhere. That's pretty badass. I didn't know about that. Check your microphone.

You're talking on the side of your mic. Yeah, thanks. I didn't know about that. That's interesting. talking on the side of your mic yeah thanks okay i didn't know about that that's interesting yeah so they sleep in caves they all the natives tell us that they bury their dead in caves and we'll like pile it with rocks just put big rocks no man could move and in places where no machinery is going to go either and they'll just cover the cave up there's we need to find out where the fuck those caves are dig them up and find some bigfoot bones that's what we were going to do with those cadaver dogs because we knew like um if that was the male that

was shot um because the the rumor going around is it was a the mom but the dna shows it was a male was the father so maybe it was the grandpa or grandpa whatever old and fucked up hunched over no muscle tone we'll see we'll see so anyways if we could have got those i'm sure i can't imagine them if it was as big as you said it was i couldn't see them carrying it more than a mile or two you know from there and then finally and there was cliffs down the back side there was other cave entrances around and they who they know that area like no one else and who knows where they put it but i can't imagine them carrying a 600 pound carcass that far right but you gotta assume too that you remember uh that movie grizzly man did you see that movie love it great movie where the dude uh they they shot a grizzly and uh

when they uh came back just uh i think it was a couple months later there was nothing all right left right little tiny pieces of bone you know I mean even a 600 pound Sasquatch or something if you left the bone behind in the jungle or in the woods rather it's not gonna last for long there's all the ecosystem a whole cycle set up like people say well where's the dead ones where's the dead mountain lions right we know there's mountain lions okay and mountain lions live way closer to people and civilization i mean they're like at the edge they killed a mountain lion in santa monica right months ago right there was a mountain lion sodding in my neighborhood a couple weeks ago there's mountain lions they're the tiger that got loosed up off the 101 that's 600 pound orange tiger run it ran loose for three

and a half weeks in a six by two and a half mile stretch of of you know up there they had helicopters they brought in the six best track they brought in the six best tracking teams for fishing game with their dogs in all of california came in but it was raining it was winter i don't know if it was raining but they looked for that bengal tiger for three weeks right there off the freeway and you know between malibu and the valley and couldn't find it until it walked up to somebody's backyard and was staring at her poodle. Dude, what a fucking terrifying look that must have been. Looking for a giant Bengal tiger that hasn't eaten in a week.

Right. Or two weeks or whatever the hell it is. And it's wandering around. So every corner you turn, that might be it. Every time you go down a back alley, that might be it. We were just in a tiger preserve in Sumatra looking for the orang pendek. That's a different sort of

hominid. Totally different. Smaller. Way smaller. And they're not related. Well, you know, we're all related at some point. And is there evidence of this thing? Oh, dude. Of all cryptids, that's the one that all scientists agree is do the lady that runs the un program down there for like wildlife survey she's seen it three times really

yeah and what does she say it is um it's some kind of upright orangutan that walks on two feet it's about a meter tall or so but up to like 200 like maybe three three and a half feet tall about 200 pounds ball of muscle whoa yeah and so we were out there at night, and we couldn't get any of the locals to go out. The porters, they were scared to death to go out because those tigers, they're man-eaters. They eat man. The tigers, yeah. Yeah, and we were out there at night looking for a ring, pendex. So you guys went out at night?

In the tiger preserve. You did? Yeah. Jesus fucking Christ. What were you thinking? That's crazy. I was thinking it's going to take moneymaker do you think it was going to get him first i was hoping why is he the slow one

slower than me slower than you yeah everybody's slow compared to a tiger man uh you know they said i said well we're in a big group like the last guy got out here like the month before whatever they were walking in a group they went out a group of 15 people and it jumped right in the middle of the line. A guy crushed his skull, ran off with the guy dead. Well, you know what he did once? I used to do a bit about it in my act. There was a boat and I forget how many guys were in the boat. But this tiger swam out to the boat three times.

Killed three fucking people before it got tired of doing it. Swam out, climbed in the boat, killed a guy, dragged his body ashore, jumped back in the water, swam out to the boat, killed another guy, and they're just rowing like a motherfucker trying to get away from this thing. They just got bored. That was just one night. Yeah, just one day. They hunt those boats.

I mean, those are those illegal wood guys, and those guys get eaten all the time. They could swim like a motherfucker. Oh, yeah. I did not know that they could swim like that. They're the aquatic cat. That's a scary animal, man. They're gnarlier than polar bears. Yeah, they're right up there.

Yeah. The thing about polar bears, though, is they just start eating you. Right. They don't kill you first. A tiger at least has the good grace to crush your windpipe and then take you out quick polar bears eat you dick first right they just start chewing on any part they can hold down just like a salmon yeah you were saying something crazy before that you have to leave salmon out for sasquatches in some places they throw rocks at people yeah um like you when you

talk to the native like i my thing was always going to the tribes and talking like as many elders as i could right most of them it's changing now more and more they're a lot of the elders that talk to me now say the kids today like they're all into hip-hop like nba like don't give a shit about any of the traditions or the stories or the knowledge and they just want to be like they want to be westernized totally and um so they'll they've dealt they said they would never tell They were told never tell white people, but they'll tell me because I'm respectful of the subject and I'm into it and I'm listening.

But what you hear is you'll hear all these things like, well, my grandma was around. They used to do this or they used to do that. But the one thing that they still do up and down the whole Pacific Coast, from California to Alaska, you talk to any of those net pullers when they put the gill nets across the rivers. When they pull the nets in, if they don't put a salmon up on the other bank

for the squash, it'll come down and throw rocks at them or pull the net in and take all the fish. Well, what they should do then is do that and then bring cameras. Don't leave them any salmon and bring cameras and boom, you got a sasquatch.

It seems like they bait them. They want them to get this food it's an offering right but they don't they almost never almost never see them take it they'll only take it when you're not there but you set up cameras right set up some cameras leave a fish that seems like the easiest way in the world they're jedis man like they it's so crazy we don't know this is electromagnetic field around things they pick up on but they are hip to a lot but they they have walked in front of game cameras before and stuff so they have yeah we just there's some game cam photos out there really yeah what are the work what we're gonna find those game camera photos i don't even have one this guy might have just sent me one the other day i might have one on my phone yep bigfoot was one of the first things

that google pulled up isn't that funny game camera photos bigfoot was one of the first things that google pulled up isn't that funny game camera photos bigfoot was one of the very first things you know why google knows i'm a retard dude says you're a smart guy oh this one it's totally fake as fuck well most of them are we just saw i don't think this one's on the internet yet. Wow, this one's trippy. This one looks like a monkey. It's like a four... Like something on four legs. That's fake. It's fake? Yeah.

No, they have to walk on two legs or they're not real. They're not legit. Oh, no, they go on four sometimes for sure. They'll knuckle walk. Especially the young ones. Yeah, some of these look really fake. God. Which ones do you...

How do you discern whether fake or real um god i wish i could get a hold of cliff and have him send you one right now the a lot of the best ones dude people don't you'd be surprised most people aren't looking for fame and fortune like with this the most of the stuff that gets caught oh the mcgoy we went to the mcgoyan room you know you talk about you know the pacific northwest the fifth largest pine forest in North America is in Arizona. Really? Yeah. The Magoan Rim, that's where this is.

This might have even been the video we did. What are you slowing down to a quarter speed? What is this? I don't see shit. It's hard when we take something from YouTube, though, and put it on a monitor and blow it up. I'm not even sure what that video is. Well,

this, yeah, all the footage that's with Bigfoot, none of it's in like the HD or anything like that. It's always like this, you know, really low quality. How convenient.

You know what's funny, dude, is that the best DNA sample from Asia came from Destination Truth. You know that TV show, Destination Truth? Yeah. It's kind of hokey, whatever. Yeah.

They just aired it, I think, the Vietnam episode. And our team's going to go there because the thing ran past the cameraman at the base camp, ran right by him on the side, like a big eight-footer. And they got four good footprint casts because it stepped in mud in a couple spots. Really? Yeah, they got. And this is Destination Truth? Yeah, the Vietnam episode.

I think it just aired like last night or the night before or something. I don't know. I was up in the mountains. And it's a Bigfoot? It's a Vietnamese one. They call them Rock Apes. So the non-vets call them Rock Apes. You ever read about that?

The Vietnamese Bigfoot. No, I've never heard Rock Apes. Oh, did you talk to them? They call them rock apes because they, you ever read about that? The Vietnamese Bigfoot. No, I've never heard rock apes. Oh, did you talk to any of those old Lerp guys or any of those old, like the Ford Ranger guys and the, you know, behind the enemy lines guys, or even guys, just regular army guys. When they were up in the Northeast, like in the Hmong territory, the rocks would throw apes at them. They'd call them rock apes. They'd throw rocks at them. They found several footprints, and they also caught something on thermal

imaging that might have been a bipedal creature. It says, however, in the end, Gates couldn't be sure that they found evidence of batutut. Is that what they say? I don't even know how they say it. Batutut, which led some viewers to vent their frustrations on Twitter. Well, people vent their frustrations on Twitter

no matter what you do. I don't even want to read Twitter after all the what ifs that we've thrown in today on the Bigfoot front. Just read the smart people. What if Bigfoot was capable? I don't have a smart filter.

I need a smart filter for Twitter. No, the idiots, they should have their say too, as long as they're not cunts. Right? I honestly don't read any reviews. I don't read anything. I don't look at any of those Bigfoot websites. Really?

How come? It's just, you know, it's like, you know. You must get tired of people saying that you're crazy, Bigfoot's fake. Because, like, I said that I was going to talk to you uh about this today because uh all my life like i've said i've read so many books on bigfoot i've watched so many documentaries i've always been fascinated by it right um shows you're smart immediately people are like fucking bigfoot's fake fucking bigfoot's fake like no you don't know bigfoot's fake you're just a dick right you you want everything to be negative you fuck right yeah a lot of night well you know it's like when people say well i think

that this is my theory it's like like i've studied this thing for like you know over 30 years and spent 25 years looking in the field actively and i mean i i know they're real i've seen them for myself i've heard them i've talked to thousands of people that have seen them that are legitimate i mean i've seen them myself i know they're real and so've seen them for myself. I've heard them. I've talked to thousands of people that have seen them that are legitimate. I mean, I've seen them myself. I know they're real. And so when people go, well, I think this, and I have some half brain, like they just thought of it in five minutes.

And it's like, well, that's like me going to some, like, you know, astrophysicist guy that's in a lab with, you know, a giant telescope, looking up, you know, a 30-foot telescope, looking at the stars, studying, you know, he's got a PhD in astronomy. And I go go i think the moon's made of cheese that's what i think that's like when people come to me and they think about bigfoot they don't know what the fuck they're talking about yeah it's one of those things man it's a it's one of those things where i would imagine it would get really annoying if that was your life's dedication i can say i believe in bigfoot and people call me an idiot i'm like whatever i'm really close to fear factor i'm the fucking stand-up comedian you know there's

a lot of evidence i'm probably an idiot you know the bigfoot thing is just one little piece of the puzzle that shows you're smart though really well i'm i leave everything open you know i leave open the possibility there's a there's a lot of things that I leave open. Probably ridiculous. But to me, that one makes sense. There's just too many people that have seen something. If one of them is true, it's real. There's too many different names for it in Native American languages. I believe there's more than 100 different names. There's like 508 categorized for North America.

Yeah. What's that? There's not that many things that they believe that aren't real you know they have like they you know they they pray to certain gods that you know like their rain gods and fire gods and all that kind of shit but they don't have like things that aren't real they don't have too many like or they're spirit animals yeah and bigfoot's in both worlds bigfoot's the one that will have like. They think it's a real animal. Pro can be in both worlds.

But yeah, it's real. They're not, dude, no native will tell you they're an animal. They're a type of people. So they think it's just a sub. They think it's a tribe. A tribe. Wow. They think of it as a tribe.

Oh, yeah. You know what? We were just in Australia with the aboriginals. Those guys blew my mind. And they have so much knowledge about these things like they live they have them in australia oh yeah how the fuck did they get to australia we we got our how the bigfoot get to australia they're not sure they were the aboriginals all say they were there when they got there 50 000 years ago so the bigfoots are good at avoiding

people on every continent there's not like one group of bigfoots that's a retard race you know they see them in the summer way north where they uh where it's daylight all day long like way northern canada and stuff they'll see them like in small like outpost villages like native villages they'll come in because they'll go to the garbage dumps in the middle of the day and it's like why don't you guys film they just they just don't what why would they just not that doesn't make any sense in 2012 that you would see the kids watch the kids there's a lot of kids now say they're you know because of our show too like more kids are in it like they're like oh you know like hey we're gonna try to film it but these people just don't what do you mean they just don't that's that's crazy how could you it's just is it what's

that is it crazy have you guys spent any time i don? Is it? What's that? Is it crazy? Have you guys spent any time on this? You don't think it is, Brian? No, I don't think it's crazy. What do you think? You know, they're busy looking for this thing, hunting it. They don't want to carry a camera around for that one second. No, these people aren't looking for Bigfoots.

These people live there. Brian, are you playing devil's advocate or something? Are you trolling here? What are you doing? Are you trolling? To me, I just can't believe that one person doesn't have one of those go-cams on, those HD go-cams that cost $89 or something like that. It's fucking crazy if it happens. It's going to.

Technology is catching up to the Squatch, for sure. Yeah, it's going to be the drones that catch them. I don't know, dude. So do you believe that they're all over the country? I know they are. I've personally heard them. I don't know, dude. So do you believe that they're all over the country? You believe they're in Oregon? I know they are. Yeah? You know they are. I've personally heard them in Oregon, Washington, California, Alaska, Florida, Kentucky. Florida?

Yeah, the Skunk Ape. Really? In Florida? Yeah, New York. I'm sure that's just not a Cuban. How dare you? Ozzie Guillen over here. Well, they have started seeing um mountain lines in florida again oh you know just another reason like government doesn't want to acknowledge

bigfoot is there's a few reasons what government has wanted but everywhere we go when we go these places like they say there's no mountain lions here but they're here you know you keep hearing that until one gets hit by or someone gets shoots one well one got shot one recently in ottawa they thought they had been extinct in Canada or in that part of Canada since the 1800s. Right. That was the last sighting that they had. They shot a big one, man.

They're spread out. They don't want to do it. They shot one in Connecticut. Yeah, fishing game. But you have to have a management plan. And it costs millions. These states are all strapped. You have to have a management plan.

They don't want to acknowledge. That's why they say we don't have them because they don't want to have to deal with them. But with Bigfoot, I think it was more just, what's really going to be interesting when it comes out, they're real here soon, is going to be the whole mind. I think there's going to be a lot of PhD students

write papers on this, and psychiatrists and psychologists are going to write books on this, and on how these things, there's all this evidence and stories and just everything right there in front of you and people refuse to acknowledge it. Well, I think one of the reasons

why they refuse to acknowledge it is what we've talked about before. There's so many people that fake it. There's so many people that fake UFO stories. There's so many people that fake Bigfoot stories. People are fucking crazy. And there's a lot of people out there that just...

How many people fake Bigfoot stories? You don't think so? When you go... I think anything cryptic man i think loch ness anything ufo anything bigfoot i think ghosts there's a lot of people that are full of shit when it comes to those those stories yeah those are like fun stories to bring up you know like if people say they saw a crocodile i generally genuinely believe them when you start saying you saw some shit that's that's in the cryptic realm man you might have seen it but it also might be that you're one of those crazy fucks that likes to pretend you saw something awesome you talk to those people long enough it becomes

apparent that's what's going on see i wish i was on your show then because i'm way better at that than most people i'm really good at sniffing out bullshit we're really good we're getting ready to jump the shark here probably pretty soon because we're running out of videos to look at they're talking about having celebrities come on dude i'll come on we gotta come on i'll come on and just let me come on and screen your guests i go this guy's that'd be awesome this guy's full of shit this guy's they'd be screaming at me like dude you're not telling the truth i know i know when people are telling the truth i smell them it's weird i've always been good at knowing crazy people so if you bring me in front of a crazy dude and he tells you a Bigfoot story, I'm going

to tell you he's full of shit. Well, yeah. So, I mean, I don't believe everything I hear. People go, you guys believe everything you hear on there. It's like, well, most of the witnesses we're dealing with have already been vetted. You had this one show where there was this one obviously gay guy who's like- Oh, Nick. Yeah, who's like-

That guy was the shit. I saw, it was right here. The Bigfoot was right. I'm like, bitch, you didn't see nothing. No, no, that guy- He's just trying to drag some dudes into the woods and hope somebody stumbles on your dick that guy was a wildlife biologist is he yeah oh good for him he's full of shit too no yeah i don't think so no no i totally believe that he seemed like he was making it up as he went along to me

no he he was a great dude he was great yeah yeah. So you firmly believe that that guy saw a Bigfoot? Yeah. Where was his camera, this son of a bitch? We were with that guy for a week. He was our local guide. Right. And he showed us around. And he was fun.

You would love that guy. He's hilarious. But he was our guide for a week. So we were with the guy for a week. And Matt knew the guy for several years already. He'd been on different expeditions around the country with him. And he'd never – and usually when people start telling those stories, like more will come up and it changes.

Right, right, right. And his story is just the same all the way through. So he wrote it down. He's smart. He's a good job. He did well. I'm not saying – I don't know. He might be the one guy that's telling the

truth you know the one guy that we're all sure is lying we'll see if you think he is too this season i'm sure i'll think he's lying if you think he's lying i should i think almost everybody's lying yeah most people you know i think if you lived out in the woods and you lived in a rural community where they where there are bigfoots around and you've talked to so many people like dude dude i like bigfoot so much i thought of getting uh buying land in the pacific northwest just to live in the summers with hope of seeing a big dude i i know dude i'm freaking stupid i am i know the place it's for sale right now really yeah where is it you selling real estate now no no no no i bigfoot sighting spots that'd be a good move dude i'm talking to a guy about trying to buy it right now. If you went and you bought real estate in heavy Bigfoot areas and set up cameras and

shit. That's the plan. Have a lodge. If you live somewhere in the Pacific Northwest in an area that's heavy duty Bigfoot sightings, just fucking set up cameras everywhere. Everywhere and every day you go and check those cameras. You got to set up. Well, that's what the Olympic Project is going on right now.

They actually, one of the best pieces of's what the Olympic Project is going on right now. They actually... One of the best pieces of DNA from the Olympic Project is this weird-looking Bigfoot. They got pictures of it. Comes up and sniffed the camera and licked it. And they got saliva off the camera. Olympic Project? Yeah.

Do they have these photos online? Can you see the photos of them? I think so. Licking it? So where did they take this saliva? Like, they shipped it next day? They brought it to a psychic, Brian. There's a lot of cops

involved in this and we have like protocol we follow for collecting DNA evidence. Because you guys would laugh about this. I used to I was on this crazy squash adventure like probably 2002 2001, 2002 and this thing, this guy bought property that had been abandoned for 11 years and the squ. And this guy bought property that had been abandoned for 11 years

and the squatches were living on the property. And they didn't like him moving and all this stuff happened. But we'd find these huge scats in the woods around the property that looked like giant human shits. That'd be like a foot high and 18 inches across at the base.

Like big, thick, like two-inch cables. And I'd collect them and bring them down to the fishing game and drop them off. Like, check out this Bigfoot, you know, scat. You know, can you guys DNA test it? You know, what can you do? Blah, blah, blah. And then my buddy got a job at the fishing game like a couple years later. I'm all, dude, whatever happened to my samples?

He's like, what are you talking about? I'm all, dude, I brought all these Bigfoot scat samples, and I brought in some hair a couple times, this he's like dude they told me about some crazy guy that brings in bear shit and drops it out they throw it away they never even looked at it oh that's funny look at it yeah they're probably like yeah yeah yeah well yeah we're gonna check on it for you oh it was like that's very unprofessional you pay for something you think that they have to give you some kind of real results yeah they should really be checking why didn't they pay for it motherfuckers god damn tax dollars he

glue hair on his chest for this bigfoot episode or no he's a savage you're a very good catcher brian's an animal um it's a the olympic project says uh they have the researchers in the olympic mountain range in washington state uh the o The Olympic project is a comprehensive, systematic camera trap program consisting of 50-plus cameras placed along predatory travel routes through the Olympic Mountains. Our primary focus is to obtain a series of crystal-clear photographs of Sasquatch in their natural environment. So far, it says they haven't gotten anything.

Is that what it says? Yeah, they have footprints. They don't have any. See, everyone had to sign ndas about the dna so that could be why that's not on there but i've seen the photos you didn't like i looked at i thought it was a sock puppet when i first looked at it but the dna came back legit yeah this doesn't say here that they have anything it doesn't no doesn. Not on their website. Dude, I'll call the guy, Derek. They have bears and deers.

That's cool looking deer photos. They've won all the game camp photos. There's those big contests. They're like 5,000 first place. That's fucking badass, man. They've got some awesome photos. They do have a lot of great wildlife photos. You see the mountain lion stalking the buck and the buck doesn't see it?

Yeah. They won first prize last year with that one it's really cool man they show this mountain lion uh walking through the snow too and they have a bunch of bears including bears standing upright which is pretty fucking cool bears getting really close to the trap coyotes elk wow i mean their camera trap photos make me want to buy some land and set up camera traps that'd be badass just to see different shit every day you know and the other problem huge elk yeah oh dude that's yeah a mountain lion got right up to the camera oh shit see they look dude they notice it like animals if you look at most of the pictures that like they'll be looking at the camera at least on the second shot they'll that infrared flash goes off they look yeah and there's

been a lot of cameras the squatches will break them they'll turn flip them around backwards i put a camera trap from our they walked into a camp one night i was in and i had the cameras all hidden like in tall grass and stuff and they're all pushed down but all of them were pushed down so that the lens was facing the ground wow these can't folks you should just check it out just go to the olympic project.com just to look at the actual real animals the bobcats the wildlife no fucking bigfoot though they got they got a video they got a photo of elk fucking some elks paused right in front of the camera and fucked this is amazing hey can you put it back up on that one I can see? Yeah, put up Olympic Project. The photos are amazing, man, but no Bigfoot, man.

They got a bear looking at the camera. There's two shots of a Squatch coming up to the camera real close. But it must not be on the way. I'll call Derek when we're done. Well, there's one that says bear gets close to the camera. I don't see shit up here that even says it's a Bigfoot. I don't think it's up there just because of the NDA. I got it right here.

Yeah, there it is. That's it. Yeah, scroll down. The photos are awesome, man. It's really cool. They're saying that's a Squatch right there. What, that mountain lion looking thing? No, no, down.

The next one down. That's a Squatch? Where's the one where you can see its whole arm and eyeball and stuff? The creature reappears. right there what that mountain lion looking down the next one down that's a squatch wait where's the one where you can see its whole arm and eyeball and stuff the creature reappears so wait go back up um oh there that one yeah okay they've done all this analyzation on that and that hair pattern the striation patterns and that and the the the the that's like seven that thing's like seven feet off the ground so it could be a bear, right? No, bears don't get over six.

Six-six would be like a trophy bear. Well, what kind of bear? Black bears. There's only black bears. Only black bears. Like a producer guy. A six-six is like about as big as a black bear gets. Six-six is huge for a black bear.

Brian, which page did you look at? Olympicproject.com, possible Squatch sightings. Possible Squatch sightings. It's on the menu. Yeah, but did you guys patent the word Squatch? Because I had never heard it before your show. I should have. Is that you?

Did you come up with it? I know Scott Harriet. You never know. That guy is a comedian. Scott, what's his name? Harriet. No. He wasn't like big time or anything.

I know he did a documentary called Squatchin'. But I never heard anyone say it before I said it. It's Randy Licky. Man this is. Or like. I was the first one. Yeah well. Can't see shit.

I agree. I'm not too impressed. Sons of bitches. But dude. But. But. Again. Animal experts have looked at it.

And the hair doesn't match Yeah but how could you I mean you can't tell Like an animal Is there a pet co? This is the problem The problem is It's blurry as fuck

Their best shit Is blurry as fuck Well cause it's set The camera's set To take pictures Like 30 feet away Not a foot But their

Their photo gallery's amazing Yeah yeah I don't care if it's set To take 30 There should be a photo Man there should be a photo One of these fucking things. Yeah, yeah. I don't care if it's set to take 30. There should be a photo, man. There should be a photo of one of these fucking things. There'll be one coming. I agree.

I hope so, man. It's frustrating, dude. It's really frustrating. It must be. What if they found out that it wasn't real? What if you found out you'd been duped? I've already seen them. See, that is...

There's no way you got duped? No, there's no... I'm not worried about that at all. So what you saw was so conclusive that you're 100% sure? Yeah. Why didn't you have a camera with one of those 12 times? I did, dude, but it was... The only one I're 100 sure yeah why didn't you have a camera one of those 12 times i did dude but it was um the only one i saw in the daylight i didn't because my my shit got ripped off like when you said conveniently leave your truck the bigfoot psychically knew that your

camera wasn't present imagine if they're so sensitive if i would have had a camera i wouldn't have got a picture you think so i wouldn't have it was only there it was less i saw for like literally like half a second It was just gone. Once Google Goggles comes out, people need to go hiking for Sasquatch with Google Goggles. There's people wearing those now, like those little... GoPros.

Yeah. Well, not even... They have smaller ones, even like little spy ones. Right. Yeah, but those ones suck. The resolution suck. The GoPros are HD, so it's like... No, people are using GoPros.

People are mounting them on their helmets. Yeah, they have to. Someone... It's going to get ridiculous. Oh, there's a new footage we think is real of a squash down on the side of the road that some hillbillies got with a GoPro. Really? Yeah.

New footage. If you look up from like two or three weeks ago, it's down on the side of the road. It's up in Canada somewhere. New Bigfoot footage? What would you look up on YouTube? Canadian Bigfoot GoPro. A lot of sightings come from Canada.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And if it was just crazy people reporting them, there would be just as many sightings in Hawaii, right? Right. Or Rhode Island. Well, not really. Yeah, if there was not enough place for them to hide. Dude, in 1900 or 1850, everyone knew what what a unicorn was and no one knew what a bigfoot

was but you can find hundreds and hundreds of newspaper clippings about people seeing a giant ape there's no people saying they saw a unicorn right yeah yeah it's always the same thing right yeah and it follows the same patterns like we were when we were in australia like we we'd always heard that yaoi's were different than um that's what they call them the aboriginals in australia call them yaoi's we'd always heard yaoi's were different than bigfoots when we were down there we found out they're they're bigfoots man i mean the way they act we we heard the best stuff we recorded was in australia you think they're exactly the same i don't know about that but the the action the patterns all that was the same. Did you have photos of anything that you got in Australia?

Like what are you saying? All the patterns are the same. No, they don't. The behavioral patterns. And what people describe is there's a little, like, you know, maybe the difference between like a European gray wolf and a North American gray wolf. You know what I mean? Like the same genus and all that.

But, again, a lot of photos of wolves. Yeah, but they did a three-year study on wolverines. All those wolverines you see on shows are in wildlife parks. They've been, like, babies that were captured when their mother got killed or whatever. But they did a three-year study. Millions of dollars spent on this. or whatever but they did a three-year study millions of dollars spent on this and the only footage they got was from like four to five hundred yards away on a snow field of a wolverine going away and that was a well-equipped professionally funded looking for a known

animal and they got one clip in three years that's pretty crazy yeah it's like snow leopards they didn't get any footage of snow leopards until like 2007 do you think that people just underestimate the amount of of actual forest oh god yeah it doesn't you don't need a million acres of forest for a squash to hide well you think you would because otherwise people would run into it people run into them all the time they're seeing all it's just not that you guys expect to be in the paper i need a fucking photo just one just one i can't find any of this i've been i've been with squatchers and stuff that i said like yeah i had my camera around my neck or i was holding it and i saw it and it looked at me and they just shit their pants and froze and even after the thing was gone they didn't even take a picture until it was gone yeah i'm looking at this uh canadian the new canadian

bigfoot footage is it the one on the side of the road that's down on the side? Standing down below? He's walking through a trail. No, this thing is just a car drives by and it's down on the side of the road. Standing there. Oh, really? No, this one's different. This one's a dude walking through the world.

When I say hillbilly, I don't mean any negative connotation of that. To me, it's like a compliment. Hillbilly's a compliment? I say redneck and hillbilly. I don't mean any negative connotation of that. To me, it's like a compliment. Hillbilly's a compliment? I say redneck and hillbilly. I don't mean anything bad by it at all. Well, a lot of rednecks do like being rednecks. Yeah, but hillbillies don't like being called hillbillies.

No? No. I found that out the hard way. Why? They try to fight you? Dudes get mad at you? Yeah, they get offended. Like one of the witnesses got really mad that I...

You know, I was just joking around. I'm like, man, that's some hillbilly shit there, you know, and he got real offended and was like... Well, he's probably crazy. That's why he's making up a Bigfoot story

and getting offended. Here we go. Son of a bitch. Here's the original one. Original video is over an hour long. So what were they doing? They were driving around? Yeah, this one.

It's real quick. It's either a racist video. Where's this thing? Down the right. Right there. Highlight it for us. Oh, wow. What?

Why am I not seeing it you don't see where the shadow starts it's right in front of the first shot right there see really but what's weird stop if you go one more couple more frames it's really clear right there but that photo they just showed oddly enough was like a million times better resolution yeah that looks fake as fuck how is that so good then this which is on that is kind of weird but it seems like i'll investigate it it seems like a trick of light and shadows to me really yeah because it seems like it's it it seems like a trick of light and shadows to me really yeah because it seems like it's a moot well maybe it's because of the resolution of the video it could be we're gonna go check it out see how it's on the side right there yeah like right that's the clearest frame well there's of their own video they went back later and filmed it and it's not there or it's not there so it's either a man in a suit or a squash i think

So it's either a man in a suit or a squatch, I think. And then these guys released this video. This would have been right here. Yeah, that's so clear. I mean, this is the same footage that they're, you know. Listen, man, that's some shadows. I could save you some money. Don't go on that trip.

Dude, we got to go look at something Yeah How many Sightings do you guys get Like a month That That they ask you to investigate Oh Well There's like

See I'm not gonna wade Through all this shit Like we get every video Like they have a whole Production team That just All they do is Scour the internet

Like for every day There's a new video Put up Do you worry now That the show's a hit That people might start Faking it Oh totally Yeah We already are We're getting that you must be right i mean we're

pretty good i mean we've been doing this we clip metal i've been doing this like 20 years we're pretty good at filtering people out pretty quick like we we caught one guy hoaxing in the ohio episode really wasn't it brian's from well you know so blame him we'll be looking they don't and they don't want us to see a lot of stuff ahead of time. They want us to be surprised when we see it. But we all know it just because we're in the Bigfoot community. But I hadn't seen that video before, and I'm looking at it on a monitor this big. And then when you see it at home on a big high-def TV,

and you're going, you were fooled by that video at the beginning. It's like, well, I just saw it on a black-and-white monitor, like a five-inch monitor or something. But it was a guy you know and cliff cliff busted him cliff straight up called the guy a liar really right then the guy started like trembling and tearing up and stuff so he's a faker and a bitch yeah how dare you sir with your fake bigfoot footage listen man i really want to believe i really do and i might be a little bit more skeptical than you, but I hold out hope.

I really... It's not about believing. It's knowing. Right? I wish I shared your enthusiasm. It'd be fun. I'd be out there with you. I'm very enthusiastic. I hope it's real.

I just feel like there's a lot of fucking... A lot of fuckery afoot. That's what I feel like. Yeah, but it's... But if any of it's real, then it's real. Well, if one of them is real, then it's real. Well, if one of them is real, then it's real. Well, yours is real, right? So it is real.

Well, you've seen it. What you've seen is unfuckery. You know more than anybody, which is probably why you're so crazy about doing it. Well, I'm saying you know more than the average person for sure, and even more than the average person researching it because you've seen it. How many researchers haven't seen anything does it has the chick on the show ever seen anything she seems to be the most skeptical she's sorry what's her name renee renee yeah she saw something up in the olympic peninsula when she where the olympic project is where i just got back this weekend um she saw something she doesn't say what it was she said it it looked like it was

tall and it was and there was like an arm. And she's like, well, it could have been a bear walking upright, or it could have been a bear that was just starting to drop down as it was running, like picking up speed on two legs, getting ready to drop down. But she probably saw a Squatch. She's the most skeptical out of the group, would you agree? Yeah, that's her job, too. I mean, there's been times where she was like holy shit that was a squash they're like you

can't say that you know like oh they tell her she can't say that well we're in oregon when we recorded those ones do that was the thing it's like do they do that they they tell you what you you're supposed to what role you're supposed to play in the show and she plays the skeptic role no well just when we were in oregon she was like when it happened she was like oh my god that had like that had to be a squash that had to be a squash. It had to be a squash. I'm like, look, you can't. You know, you gotta.

Why couldn't, why did they say she can't say that? Because then, I guess, like, you know. Then she wouldn't be taken credible. I'm probably gonna get totally in trouble for having said that. Really? Probably. Yeah, well, they don't,

well, they say, I've never been a part of a reality show like that. Because she represents all the people at home that are skeptical. That's her job, is to represent them. Like, what would they say? Like, the person thinks is to represent them. What would they say? The person thinks it's all bullshit. She's supposed to ask the question that that person

is thinking. What did she, when she was seeing something, what did she see that made her so convinced? She didn't see. What did she hear? What did she hear? We heard two squatches calling back and forth up in Malala River in Oregon. It's on the episode, but dude was if you've heard of murphy's law murphy's law is nothing squatchers law is way

worse like what squatchers law if something's gonna go wrong right when it happens it will like your battery dies or whatever like just whatever it may be happens right when we've got a call from the network going camera b whatever isn't working there's no all the tape you sent us is blank we get this call we're out in the woods and like when it finally came through someone had come back from camp like the messages come in earlier that day and they're like you got to check the camera right now and check the audio like there's nothing synced up all and it just turned out the editor was totally blowing it but we stopped all filming he was you know putting the camera back into playback mode to

see what he had the sound guy was checking his stuff i had a parabolic just it wasn't part of their stuff i had a parabolic to record and it was going from like it would clear up and get really cold then like kind of cloud back up and get a little bit warmer so i had like five layers i was taking off the lyrics i was burning up and i had the parabolic they were in pitch black i put the parabolic on the brush and these things started screaming. I got my whatever my thermal I'm pulling off over my head right when this happens

and everyone's like holy shit. When it first happened we were like no way. By the time we got up and then the sound was coming between me and the camera guy was like the whole crew was between me so I had the parabolic dish here and all it picked up was just these guys you know ripping open velcro like i'm covering stuff and because it had been raining on and off

guys going no way talking and so you can't hear any nothing comes through the parabolic i mean it's that like people go and then we hear stuff everyone at home this is what i want them to put more effort into this is capturing what we hear like we wear lapel mics that are made to block out all sound except for us talking right exactly exactly they don't pick up screams in the distance they're designed not to yeah so but we do have a guy that's going out with us now that has the parabolic and he's you know but you have to be pointed like if it's coming from right there and you're pointed here you might not get it right like you gotta be pointed right at it and we don't have the best gear for that like it's kind of hokey do you know like when you hear something in the woods too it's kind of weird

things echo off of trees and stuff it's hard to pinpoint exactly where it's coming from right totally like my ear um like i was you know big time in a surfing for a long time and oh you got that sofa surfer yeah so like a bone grows in, yeah. And it's worse on my left ear. Do they fix that with surgery? Yeah, they can. I got to go get it done. My hearing's really good though, but it's like,

but it's my ear will close because the cavity's so small it can clog up easy. So sometimes it's clogged and whatever. So like, but they always show us going, is that a squatch

or something like that? And they never show like where we go like, you know, after we hear it again going, oh, that was a coyote or that was a bear or whatever it was. So you feel like they edited go like you know after we hear it again going oh that was a coyote or that was a bear or whatever it was

so you feel like they edited Hokie they try to make it a little bit I thought season one they did I thought season two they did a good job

and season three we'll see how they do I mean season two the editors did a great job I thought the show got way better how many seasons have you done so far

this is the third one we shot three we shot three they've shown two seasons we just finished the third like 10 more episodes we just got picked up for seasons four and five we start next month so they're going to start airing season three in the fall we'll already be pumping in episodes for four and so they're going to air like seven and a half months straight every sunday a new episode

so that's awesome so when you go out there like how how many like if you take a hundred trips how many trips do you hear something or see some footprint or something um uh it seems to go in ways like i mean i haven't seen a squat since 2007 so i haven't seen anything for five years being out there a lot damn that's got to be frustrating yeah but from 2000 well is there ever i never i never i don't tell this story i don't count it because it was just so frustrating but my buddy and i bart we got footed we know we're we know we got some but it was such an old school kind of shitty thermal it's just this big blurry heat things you can't you can't prove anything anything. We know all the sounds that were with it, what happened. It was a squatch.

I was walking back out of the same place, and it was a big rainstorm. And Cliff, the guy on the show with me, the other guy Cliff, this guy Wally, he invented the ACDC adapter. He's this billionaire guy that was funding us, buying us equipment. And Cliff had just fried his recording unit like a 1500 unit in the rain and wally told us like hey you guys can't be keep blowing because he grew up poor even though he's like a billionaire guy he's still he grew up you know he's frugal guy like hey you guys can't be frying stuff out in the rain if it's raining just put the stuff away you know so i was walking back

out and to run the thermal you have to has a you know waterproof flap you have to open that stick in a cord that goes to a recording unit. Now we have built-in recorders with the thermal. But then we didn't. I was walking back out, and I got back down where we'd seen it three weeks before. And there hadn't been a peep on that. And usually all the action happens way back up where I was coming from. And I had walked a few miles, and my truck was parked right off the highway next to some houses.

And the thing ran, it was just standing behind my truck. And if I had filmed it, it would be clear cut. Like, no, it was way tall in the back of my truck. I mean, I have a shell that's about this high, and it was above the shell. So when I filmed it, well, I didn't film it, but when I looked at it, right when I pulled my thermo out of my pocket, I'm looking at it, and there's big water drops coming down. So it went blurry really quick when I was looking at it, but you could see it for a second, and it just ran up the driveway.

And I never tell that story because everyone's like, you had a recording in it, and you didn't record it, like, you know, blah, blah, blah. That's got to be frustrating as fuck, dude. Dude, that was like... do you ever get tired of people saying that you're crazy no one says that no one says no one when you talk to regular folks so you just like firmly embedded i don't give a shit i know i'm right i know i'm right i don't care what they say i know they're to me it's like people going you're crazy that you know that the

sun goes around the earth for you so for you it's just a matter of time. I know it's coming out. I know it's going to come out. All this stuff going on, there's no way. People talk about how there's not better footage. Well, look who's trying to get the footage. It's guys like me running around Sony camcorders. It's not professionals. It's hard to get equipment back to where these things are.

If you're really talking about deep woods. Oh, yeah, batteries. All that kind of stuff. Like, generators. How long do you stay out there when you do, like, a camp? When you go squatching? Like, me and Cliff did a two-month or one-time. Two months?

Not deep. But, like, we'd come back and supply up. That was, like, that was the longest we went straight. Two months. So, you would go back, like, how often to civilization to get supplies? Oh, whenever we wanted like at least once a week but you're just camping out there for two months yeah yeah jesus christ and then home home for like a couple weeks i went fishing did you get anything when you were out

there for two months filmed nothing no cliff took a year something cliff lived in long beach as a school teacher and i was like dude you know all these TV companies have been calling me. We're going to get a show going. Just quit your job. Come up. We'll go squash and just quit your job. Slay your house. We'll go squash him for a year.

He did. Wow. And we were out for like. Brian was ready to do that right now. We spent like seven months of that year. I was thinking about it. We did about seven months of that year out in the woods. Seven months out in the woods.

We had thermals. And we'd drive at night. We did about seven months of that year out in the woods. Seven months out in the woods. We had thermals. We'd drive at night. We'd drive these roads real slow. We had it pretty wired to get good. We thought it was going to be game over because I'd heard them so many times around me

come up and growl and snap branches and stomp their feet walking around on two feet and stuff like that that I just thought with a thermal, it's going to be,

give us a week without footage, two weeks max. And it's not the case at all. I think they've been shot at so many times that even when it's pitch black, they still are always taking that evasive action. Do you think they can see in the dark? Oh, yeah. I know they can.

They can definitely see in the dark. So they're nocturnal creatures. For the most part. They'll come out in the day, too. You know you've never seen their eyes up close though right when i see something the only thing i've seen in their eye that the one i saw in the daylight the eye it was this the way the sun was coming down its eye was so deep set its brow was out so far i couldn't see that i remember that was one thing that struck me because it was that quick but the one thing i remember really clearly was the hair was real shiny it was super skinny it was the arm was it's skinny

this one was all the ones i've seen at night were bulky except i saw one about your size like well it was about 5 10 look like like a high school linebacker or something like 5 10 220 something like that so it was an adolescence a child yeah yeah maybe yeah and uh but the big ones i saw were all bulk like bulky and you know these are all you know through night vision or thermal you think they need a lot of fucking food you think they would do a lot of damage and leave shits everywhere well they've been seen shitting in like flowing water and in late like they're conscious about hiding their scat like really they just don't shit in the trail so you you think they're smart enough to know that people are a threat,

actively avoid people, and hide from people. They are a kind of people. They're a kind of people. Well, I mean, that foot's a footprint of a fucking human. No, no, there's total differences. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like it's built with big toe down the middle toe. Yeah.

I mean, not a gorilla, for sure. It looks like a giant human footprint. Superficially, it looks like a human footprint. Yeah. Well, there's nothing else like that in the primate world that has a foot like that. Us and... Well, that's another interesting thing that came to light recently, scientifically, over the last decade.

They found that... I think they call them Homo florensis from... Yeah. Florian... Wait. Floriansis, is that it? Oh, God. Cliff's going to kill me me he's always telling me

how to say it right because i've always said it wrong when i read it i'd say it in my head yeah floriensis okay well what it is folks that it's really like a hobbit like a real hobbit that really did exist and may even eight eight people it might there's a lot of evidence that they're still there really yeah well this this thing they found bones recently, within the last decade, and really fascinating stuff. They absolutely know that a very small type of human being existed. And it's not like a dwarf or like a mutation or a genetic screw-up or anything like that. genetic screw up or anything like that it's a whole species a different completely different species of human being that um they call it the florist man or two but it's like they called it like a modern day hobbit and it's it's amazing i mean this is something that was mythological

up until just a few years ago and now fact scientific fact they know for sure this existed this is a real small animal and where do they think this thing still lives um well maybe the cape york peninsula of australia like the straits of torres through there like between australia and going up into asia there's reports of them on islands up in there to this day and then in the 80s um i really respect he was a missionary to the aboriginals up in the cape you know that cape york peninsula goes up in australia that big point that goes up there's, that big point that goes up? There's only like one road that goes around up there.

It's just empty. And he was up there visiting these real remote villages. And he got a pack of them came up on him. And what he described, he had a forensic artist draw what he saw back then. And it matches exactly what the reconstructions are from the remains they found in Flores Island. Wow. The Flores, man. How many do you think live up there? matches exactly what the reconstructions are from the remains they found in flores island wow the flores man like it's uh um how many do they think live up there they don't know and they don't even know if they're like the aboriginals say they haven't seen them they they say they're still

around but they haven't seen them in a while well they say they haven't seen them we didn't talk to him i've seen him within 10 years but they're supposedly up in those islands up and they're still and like there's another type of bigfoot up in those um we talked to this guy he's on australia broad he's like their version of like uh like public radio down in australia the australian broadcasting corporation he's the naturalist for them like he identifies causes and that he's a phd he saw one in um papua new guinea like 9 000 feet doing a bird survey for the UN back in the 70s. I mean, so they're seen in islands too, which is pretty trippy. Well, in 2004, if you ask any anthropologist how many hominids like us, you know, like Homo branch, like Homo erectus,

well, was alive 30,000 000 years ago the answer would have been two neanderthal homo sapien and now it's four you know it's that the hobbits and then that they found that new kind of neanderthal like um what they call it desinova man or uh the one up in russia they found two years ago and they got the dna out of a giant knuckle bone the knuckle bone's like twice as big as a human and they got dna out of that so now there's four hominid species that are known and when squash comes out and what what the from talking to people that i know that were part of the dna study is that that it's not a tree it's not the homo homo sapien like how humans came the homo branch isn't a tree it's a very bushy plant it's it's it's a lot of lateral a lot of crossing and um what the dna shows is that there's five types of hominid species in in um in us there

wasn't these clean breaks coming down through like right like most people are part um neanderthal most white people especially everyone that's not like Europeans. Let's say that one MMA fighter, is it Arlovsky maybe? It's 10%. What, really? Yeah, there's some... Where did you hear that? God, who was I talking to?

It was someone that was part of that genetics study, but they've got people with 12% DNA. I think I would have heard that. There's people with 12% DNA. 12% Neanderthals? 12% Neanderthals. 12% Neanderthal DNA in people like in that area above Mongolia, far east Russia. Really?

Yeah, they found. And if you're European, you're at least 2%. Like you have at least 2% Neanderthal. Have you seen that footage that's been going around the internet recently we talked about it on yesterday's podcast the neanderthal and yeah portugal spain like the one picture where it's sitting there on a rock looking over no the neanderthal that looks like a gorilla besides the guy's idea that they weren't they didn't look like us they had black skin like gorilla and they were really scary and muscular and they fed on people and they were like

a a super predator. He's already got, that theory's been refuted. Yeah, yeah, but it's fascinating. There's a picture, dude, there's a picture of a possible Neanderthal just taken like last week that's up on the internet. Have you seen that? No. Well, Dr. Meldrum, like he's impressed with it. He doesn't authenticate it, but he.

They think there might still be Neanderthals? Oh, yeah, you haven't heard that? No. Oh, dude. Who thinks there might be Neanderthals? A, yeah. You haven't heard that? No. Who thinks there might be Neanderthals? A lot of scientists over in Russia, for one thing. I don't see anything about his DNA. And China's, they're launching, well, they have Yarin over in China.

We're probably going to go over there. We're probably going to go to Russia and China and check that stuff out on the show. In China, they have an animal? They set aside a whole national park for them recently. What? Yeah, Yeren. Y-E-R-E-N. And what is this thing, supposedly?

It's like a yeti. A yeti. So it's in the Himalayas of Tibet. And they just range out. And I remember some of the best photos were uh from the himalayas of footprints and a shipping photo and there was a scalp dude i can i know that whole story inside and out yeah whatever happened that scalp that they had found did they ever figure out what that thing is well for the monks uh peter burns stole some of this stuff he's still live up in oregon

he's about 85 86 he was an event he was on those original expeditions some of the stuff he's still live up in oregon he's about 85 86 he was an event he was on those original expeditions in the 50s he's still involved in bigfoot research but um there's two different there's two stories and i'm not sure how they cross but they would they replaced the stuff that was out that people could look at with with goat skins and just sewed it like the Yeti, but they actually kept the Yeti scalp in like a sacred box. And the other story is that, you know who was a big part of this was Jimmy,

God, you know, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Jimmy Stewart. Oh, really? It's Bigfoot. Jimmy Stewart's looking for Sasquatch. I'm out here looking for him. He was a HUAC snitch, by the way. He was a what? HUAC Bigfoot. Jimmy Stewart's looking for Sasquatch. I'm out here looking for Sasquatch. He was a HUAC snitch, by the way. He was a what?

HUAC snitch. What is that? House Un-American Affairs Committee, when they blackballed all the people in Hollywood. Yeah, he was the guy that ratted out all the guys. Anyways. Whoa, what a dick. He was a full-on anti-evolutionary creationist. That's because I'm a Neanderthal.

God made Bigfoot. There's a book coming out about detailing how he was buying these remains that would come out of Asia. Like he bought like gigantopithecus stuff. He bought other stuff, but he'd have it destroyed. What? Jimmy Stewart did that? Yeah, and part of the theory, you know the minnesota ice man you know the minnesota ice man

that block ice oh yeah yeah the guy um like that's uh that was what they called him the name um well minnesota ice man's most common look hey punch that up can you punch that up minnesota ice man there's a lot. They think that was a... Well, the story is either it got shot in Vietnam or in Russia. It got shot above the eye. And this guy is writing a book. I know the guy that's writing the book. He's a professor guy.

And supposedly there's a lot of evidence. Jimmy Stewart bought that and had it destroyed. What? Yeah. I'm thinking of the wrong thing. I'm thinking of the... It wasn't Minnesota. I'm thinking of the guy they found in the glacier, the ancient man.

Oh, yeah, yeah, that guy. Yeah, he was a straight person. Yeah. This Minnesota Iceman was what? It had an arm over its head. It's frozen in a block of ice, and they showed it all over, and then. It says it's a hoax. So?

Wow, that probably is pretty important. What is that, Wikipedia? Yeah, usually they say it's a hoax. Well, who said it's a hoax? My dad. Wikipedia, yeah. probably what is that wikipedia usually i say it's well who said it's a hoax my dad uh wikipedia yeah is a hoax wow it's just saying it's a hoax all they're saying it's a hoax period history look up the photos bernald hoovermans who was like one of the top um anthropologists in the world studied that thing pretty close and he staked his whole reputation that it was real.

And what did he say it was? Thought it was a Neanderthal that had been shot, like a recently shot Neanderthal. That's it right there? That's the face, yeah. Because the power went out one time, and the ice started melting that it was in, and they said a distinct rotten meat odor smell was coming out,

like rotten flesh. Now, what do they think if they think that Neanderthals are real? He just went away from it. There's the body. That looks like a five-year-old drew it. Yeah. Is that a drawing? That's totally a drawing because, like, look at that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's just showing you what it looks like had like exaggerated sized hands and huh feet where's their photos or photos i don't know where the yeah there's photos there's like video of it and everything i mean i don't know where that's all at and jimmy stewart had that destroyed well i don't know i mean that's just this guy that's what people he's talked to that's all at and jimmy stewart had that destroyed well i don't know i mean that's just this guy that's what people he's talked to that's what he's heard well if we learned anything on this show it's fuck jimmy stewart i think we learned that hey easy i just strongly believe

in jesus and don't believe in bigfoot i know, man. He thought it would shake people's faith in God if evolution was proven true. What a silly bitch. It's all fox magic, Joe. Well, you know, how does that shake your belief in God? Even if the Bible was 100% bullshit, it shouldn't shake your belief. It's possible that there could be a God, but it's also possible that people are full of shit, and that story sucks.

Right? That's like simple mathematics. Right. And that, if we apply to Bigfoot, means that there's a certain percentage of those Bigfoot stories that are bullshit. But I hope they're real. I hope there's a percentage that are real and that maybe soon we get something. Give me something.

A fucking photo, a dead one. What about the DNA? If it comes out that's true yeah i mean what's if this peer-review study proves right it's conclusive that's the thing that's driving me crazy is like it should be out by now at least but you know it's it doesn't take that long to tell you what it is well it is when it's a new species there's no type specimen if they had a type specimen it'd be easy but when you have a type specimen for deer or barrets right real quick so when there's no type specimen it takes a long time to do the dna and when there's all kinds of markers showing homo sapien and and people would people have this misperception what dna and how dna works due to those tv shows csi and shit yeah

i mean that stuff if you're talking about a cryptid species, that has nothing to do. I mean, those guys, you got 3 billion genomes in your DNA strand. And when they go to court, they just have to line up like seven, seven of those, like certain markers to get a conviction. Right? So, I mean, it's like. Wow. When you're talking about 3 billion, and there had been all kinds. I thought there was like 30. If you watch those shows, it looks like there's like.

Well, they can line up as many as they want and they don't it's like 30 of them oh right right that's what it looks like but they don't line up all three billion they go to certain sections and line up those sections and what happened was with that with the guy that sample he brought in the shooter there there's like so there'd be strands like with like 2.9 billion in there but a gap right here in a gap right here but you could line up other dna samples and those gaps would fill in they'd all line up but then none of them were complete then he brought in the first complete one so now they just have to go through the peer review process and other people have to find the same conclusions that this woman yeah it's already

what is the criticism about this woman again you never really got to that i've never met her in person. I don't want to bat him. People that I really respect and know that are smart people, professionals, are working with her and really like her. And I've talked to other people. They're like, dude, she's shady. So who knows?

Right. I don't know. I don't know her personally. Now, when does the show, when does season two or season three? Season two is over. season three season two's over season three they just said sometime in the fall probably like sweeps week or something because they're still airing episodes they'll still like show them in repeats right i don't know popular show yeah it's real well right because it's like the second most popular in

animal planet history it didn't it didn't uh south park parody you guys yeah fuckers dude they fuck. Cause we were all laughing, like waiting for it. And we all love South Park and like the producers that we're going to show, like comedians, standup comedians and stuff. And like,

they love this show and there's moneymaker and, uh, fuck. So we thought, well, we thought it was going to be was cause we saw like, we saw some little clip that had come out way earlier. Someone got ahold of somehow of,

uh, it showed them like dressed up like us, like wearing backpacks and stuff. Right. And we thought for sure they were going to have Cartman play moneymaker. You know, cause he's like carbon and moneymaker, like the same guy. Right.

Jimmy Stewart. Seriously. And that's pretty good. So then they made, they made clip and Matt like normal. And then they made they made Clip and Matt like normal and then they made me this fucking short retard that like is all scared

like it was the most like they didn't get it. I'm like this little short retard that is scared like I can't talk. I don't talk all that great but so they got you the worst. Oh dude,

I'm the only guy they slaughtered me. Have you seen the episode? No, I haven't seen it. Brian told me it's awesome. I'm trying to find a clip of it. I get Cartman high. Dude, we've talked about the show on the podcast so many times

that people will yell it during comedy shows. Have you gone squatching yet? Oh, really? Yeah, people tell you don't have to very squatchy area. Have you seen the memes of you? What's a meme? A meme is like an internet photo that they add words to, and then it gets passed on so many times.

You know, like a meme would be there's a photo of you. Like here's a perfect example. You know Giorgio Suclos from Ancient Aliens? There's a photo of him. It says, I'm not saying it was aliens but it was aliens right it's like it's always one of those type things there's only one answer aliens and it'll be the same photo but like with different you know text that but there's awesome ones of you where it's like that's a tree this seems squatchy

like well see if you can find them brian they They're in the Rogan board thread for this. I was throwing Squatchy. Pull one up if you can. I would say Squatchy a lot, but I started saying it even more when I found out it was a drinking game on college campuses. Kids watch our show and every time we say Squatch or Squatchy, they drink. You're going to kill somebody. I'd say it like four times in a sentence. You can tell this place is Squatchy.

You look around, a Squatch who came through here and squashed over there and like haha just to try to give him alcohol poisoning yeah it was a drinking game for the UFC if someone got rocked I said he's rocked people drink there's a bunch of other things too so if you're playing along at home oh I'm looking at this photo this monkey this fake thing it looks fake as fuck dude oh you know my aunt my cousin Donnie says he knows he's the little uh italian guy with a thick boston accent that worked at the subaru dealer in santa monica do you remember him uh subaru dealer in santa monica did i look at a car there or something

yeah he sold or never sold me a subaru so i don't know he said he knew or maybe it was from the playboy you ever go to playboy mansion once i hosted the marijuana policy project thing there so i was there once there was a marijuana policy project had a thing at the mansion it was uh it's like they rent it out you know so it's like everybody's like wow oh right and they're like they hire like a couple chicks to go around but like strippers that aren't even playmates it's a fucking yeah it's like everybody's like, wow. Oh, right. And they hire a couple chicks to go around. They're like strippers that aren't even playmates, right? Yeah, it's a sausage factory. It's all dudes. It's like, where are the girls?

I know he's been up there. I don't know. Funny the memes of him? Check this out. This is how they portrayed. Okay. Bigfoot field researchers organization. Would you stop scaring everyone with your dumbass myth?

People thought Atlantis was a myth, Cal. But I was just there. I've explored the depths of Atlantis, and now I'm about to prove a new species exists. I'm a little James Cameron. These people aren't going to prove anything. To believe any of this, you either have to be a liar or stupid. These are professional people who go around tracking Sasquatches, Cal. They aren't liars, and they aren't stupid.

Look at its trajectory. It heads directly to the right. It can't be human. It's too low to the ground. What do you think, Bobo? Bobo thinks scary. I'm thinking a Sasquatch. It's not big enough to be a Squatch.

So it's a baby Squatch? That's what I'm thinking. I've already done my research, boys. What you're looking at there is a chupacabra. Chupacabra? It's like a Sasquatch, only more elusive, more ferocious, and a little more greedy. Oh, jupacabra. That's how scary.

That's you. It makes total sense. If we rule out a human and a baby Sasquatch, jupacabra's all we really have left. Well, I guess that's it. You're going to have to allow only me into the Easter egg hunt, sir. I'm the only one qualified. That's hilarious. That must be awesome to have that.

I mean, that, to me, as a South Park fan, I would faint if that happened. Yeah, man, they fucking parodied your show. That's huge. Dude, they made a fucking tarred. It's not really you, though. It's just a character. The real you has represented the Bigfoot community quite well today. Yeah, right.

Thanks very much for the gone squatching hat. This is pretty fucking dope. If they did me, I would be a gay cat. That's what you'd be? Probably, right? You didn't get to the good part, though, because I got Cartman high. You got Cartman high? I turned Cartman into a Jew.

Really? Yeah. Wow. I'll check out the rest of it. Yeah. It goes on South Park Studios. They have all the episodes, and the episode is called Jubicaba or whatever. Jubicaba? Jubac. Jubicabra?

Jubac... I'll just spell it out. J-E-W-P-A-C-C-A-B-R-A. It's season 16. Jubicabra. Yeah, like a chupacabra but a Jew. That's what I was figuring it was.

Fucking God bless South Park. They're the best, man. No one's consistently put out funny shit like those guys have. But why the heck the fuck they hammered me? It's like well dude look at your you're fucking on a bigfoot show i mean you can't make her for all of them they all looked retarded look that's what

south park does they went after you a little harder but come on man i don't should be honored and all that it's an honor and you're on a Bigfoot show, man. That should be highly respected, not made fun of. When you get something solid, man, then the tide will change. You're going to come in. They're going to have a fucking float for you in downtown L.A. There will be a big parade. You're right.

Look, we found a real Bigfoot, and you and Moneymaker, and they could put all this stuff back in of Renee saying, I think it's a Squatch. Because now we know a Squatch is real. She doesn't always do that. She did that when we were in Oregon. They should have left that shit in. Authenticity. She still says she goes, I don't know what it was. We've got to get her on the podcast too.

I've got to find out what makes her tick. Is that bad? Dude, I think you guys have a good time. What's wrong? Nothing. Sounds like she's poisoned. You're going to get some, Joe. No, you're not.

She's one of those. I see what you're saying. I would have a good time if I was a woman. She would have a good time with me. Mr. Garrison would have a shot. Well, even if she wasn't gay, hanging out with you guys in the woods, chasing Bigfoot would turn you gay. That would be the first thing to go lesbian. I got to explain the tooth.

This fucking tweaker. You lost a tooth? This tweaker lady came running up to me with like four little rug rats, like all lice infested kids. I think it was the first of the month or something. They just got their checks. Right. She was at like the canned food store, you know, a dented canned store, like cheap stuff, whatever. I was walking by. Oh, we're big fans.

We're big fans. She handed me this like, just this this look like the simpsons evil baby like unibrow and all that uh-huh like frowning and she hands you this like kid like two or three years old she's all take a picture of your kids like i'm like hey and i'm like hey buddy right the camera and he just looked at me smiling he just looks at me like wham and headbutted me and knocked my tooth out. A baby headbutted you and knocked your tooth out? Yeah, I was like a toddler. Whoa, dude. I find that harder to believe than Bigfoot. Well, it was already, it was a

I got hit in the face with a surfboard there. Oh, it was already loose? Well, it had been capped. I went to Tijuana, dude. You got capped in Tijuana? I got a bunch of dental work in Tijuana. Really? Dude, my dentist was off the hook.

He's like this crazy old... He wasn't crazy. He's kind of the world's most interesting man, but he looked like a short, fat Mexican, Roy Orbison. A short, fat Mexican, Roy Orbison. Like the thick glasses. He's funny.

He just had a liver transplant like six months earlier and I was his first... Oh, dude. Do you got a minute? Yeah. So I'm going down. I was going down funny he just had a liver transplant like six months earlier i was his first oh dude you want to you got a minute yeah so i'm going down i was going to like this like legitimate clinic down in tj that people go to the one next to the police station and uh because like they wanted like 20 grand i've been hitting the face with crab blocks and surfboards and pool cues stuff like that and

so i'd always crack teeth and stuff i was I was going to get them all fixed. They want like 23 grand in the States. So I'm going down there. I stop and see my buddy. He's a Mexican dude. He's all, oh, my fiance's uncle is a dentist down there. He's got like, yeah, it's a cheaper clinic. You know, it's just like there wasn't even electricity when I went there like the first day, you know.

He hadn't been practicing because he got a liver transplant. He used to be a partier. And we go down there, and, we're doing all this work. And after the second day, I'm in the chair for, like, eight hours. He's like, we got to go look at Pretty Girl. He's a total horndog. He's, like, almost 70. He's a little short.

He's hitting on every girl. He's pretty. He's cool. He's funny. He's interesting and whatever. And he's hitting on all these chicks. He's like. So he takes this giant strip bar called, like, the Hong Kong Cafe or something you ever heard of that no it's like three stories it's

like one of those uh it's like grindhouse or something you think when you want it's like full narco place like you know full in tijuana yeah it's three stories it's got like big hot tubs now are you wearing a gone squatching hat while you're wandering around this place i don't know what i was wearing but i'm just probably dressed like i am now i want to picture you in a gone squatching hat if i don't if you don't mind all right and the dude uh he disappears like i i didn't know like i thought apparently every girl there was like a hooker and you can just get a girl and split whatever well he splits and we're waiting and we had a plan if anyone got to separate for a reason we were going to meet at the truck back at nine o'clock or whatever it was or 830 we you know

we'd meet at the truck was a couple blocks away well you know it's 830 we don't see the guy anywhere at the place we leave we go back to the truck he's

not there then we wait for like two hours my buddy's like in going to school to be a nurse so he had to get back head class like seven words I do that can't

wait for the guy all night fuck I don't know where he is you know he's he's Mexican he spanish you know he's probably all right but he just had a liver transplant six months earlier he got a couple margaritas so like we weren't jesus christ and so we go back to the states because we were just going to cross the border every day and he never comes home and the family thinks i kidnapped him that i'm part of a kidnapping because they looked at me and thought like sketchy. And so I'm getting accused of kidnapping this old man.

So you never came home? No. So we're like, you know, like I was starting to get nervous, you know, they're like, it was,

what'd you do with him? Like accusing me like, you know, over the phone. Oh wow. And, um, I was like,

I was saying, well, I just got, and I was covering for the guy, you know, going like, well, I don't want to say the guy split with a hooker,

you know? So I'm like, you know, his wife's all upset. I'm just like, I don't know where, you know, I well i don't want to say the guy split with a hooker you know right like you know his wife's all upset i'm just like i don't know where you know we were in a mexican restaurant i wanted some bro i was drinking i had all those you know pain pills that day i was getting whatever like the shots and stuff i said i was kind of groggy and you know i just was walking around looking for some bro then i came i didn't even know what restaurant it was i walked for like four or five blocks got lost so i totally covered for the guy the next day he shows up and he's like and the family's like where were you i don't know what story he

told him but you know he just said that i left him in a restaurant luckily he said something like that too that was close enough so he was so stoked and at this point i'm like he's not a very he's a cool guy to go party with but he's not a very good dentist and at this point he's not a very good dentist no well he's all right he wasn't terrible but um so he uh he goes he goes bobo i thank you so much so i'll give you half off the rest of your dental work because i was like i'm not gonna get any more dental work from this guy i'm like half off fuck yeah so then so you said we'll fuck it as long as it's cheap yeah oh shit what the fuck yeah what is that noise bro my computer's going crazy what do you mean it's going crazy shitty music of that yeah what is that music that's the universe tell us to wrap this podcast up uh-huh let's just wrap this

podcast up you said Mexican dude sounds Let's just wrap this podcast up. You sound... Mexican dude sounds badass. What the fuck are you playing? Is that like fake Rage Against the Machine? Turn the volume down, bro. Thank you very much. My whole life I've been fascinated by Bigfoot.