The Joe Rogan Experience - #2410 - Jeff Dye

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Jeff Dye is a comic, actor, broadcast personality, and host of the podcast "Dye Hard with Jeff Dye." His latest special, "The Last Cowboy in LA," is available to stream on YouTube.  www.jeffdye.com  www.youtube.com/@JeffDye https://youtu.be/lwRz8rvGizI?si=t2W7x_0-PKkV6QZb Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Buy 1 Get 1 Free Trucker Hat with code ROGAN at https://happydad.com This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Rogan podcast checking out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night All day I'm trying to get to that Yeah, that's the key But they tricking me, Joe They're baiting me in with the algorithm

These motherfuckers They get me too, they get me in the morning I was just talking about it with Jamie That like... Are we rolling? Yeah I was just talking about with him It's like

I'm so good at like not caring what people think sort of and then I find no I really care a lot like I'm like in a constant tug of war of that because I used to have Google alerts on oh no for your name yeah and then I had to get rid of that oh how dare you think I'm going to check the YouTube comments

so that was a ring that I had to close I'm slowly closing the rings the ring I'm stuck in right now is checking what like my comedy peers are up to you know that kind of stuff the one they make videos the videos they make of like so-and-so is you know having a breakdown or Mark Maren said this or those kind of like those rings you know

but I need to close that I want to get I want to have no none of it I want to I don't want to check any comments or any anything I'm much better at this stuff than I ever have been in the past of avoiding most things that are annoying but every now and then one will sneak in and then and then why Why did I let that sneak in? Why don't let that bother me? Yeah, I texted you.

Yeah, I was going, hey, check this out. He goes, don't say me shit like this. The Rhonda Rousey one didn't really bother me. Okay, good. I mean, I know what that is. You know, like, she's a fucking pit bull, man. That's the type of human. Thanks, brother.

You're welcome. Do you mind if I tell you my opinion of Ronda Rousey and you tell me if I'm right or not? You go ahead. Because you know what you're talking about. And I am not a UF, like I like UFC, but I don't, you know these things. So I've always said, like, Ronda Rousey was a badass and was awesome at fighting when there was like 30 girls doing it

professionally, her level, right? That's why I said I might be wrong. But then there was probably all these girls who could really fight all over the world, like in Japan and other countries and maybe even in America that just weren't in UFC they're like, I could probably beat this chick. And now that there's so many women competing on this level,

like Ronda Rouseley probably isn't in her prime as badass as like the field. Well, it's very difficult to when someone's a pioneer, she's a legitimate pioneer. It's very difficult to compare them to the people that have had a chance to study the pioneers and then advance the sport. Right. So what she was is, here you go. A lighter fella. She's a legend. I mean, I got nothing but love and respect for that lady.

What she did was so impressive. She was the first legitimate female superstar. She made the UFC female division possible. If it wasn't for her, Dana was very open about never having female UFC fighters. It took someone that was that dynamic, that was that special, to open his eyes and go, you know what? I think this lady's a star. And to be the type, like when she said like I wasn't an expert, everyone's entitled to their opinion

you know but you got to understand why she thinks like that because she's a fucking she has a champion mentality you never fought you ain't shit you know it's like it's real simple the football guys always do that you didn't play you're like yeah but I studied to the sport doesn't matter you ain't shit I get it it's totally fun

you can't judge her like compare her to like Zhang Wei because like Zhang Wei who was the 115 pound champion she had a chance to watch all these other people learn what they're doing right, what they're doing wrong, what's effective, what's not effective. What Ronda had is world-class judo, world-class, bronze medalist in the Olympics.

One of the best arm bars, period, in the sport, in the history of the sport. Her fucking arm bar, the technique was flawless. This is a fight with her and Katzangano. Katzangano launches at her, just fucking, Katzangano was an animal, charges at her. Ronda catches her in an arm bar in like 13. seconds. I don't remember the exact time. It was nuts, but it was perfect, perfect technique. You know, you couldn't fuck with that. But then she fought Holly Holm. And when she fought Holly Holm, she was dealing with an elite boxer, an elite kickboxer, and a very physically strong woman who had

an awesome game plan and who had a chance to study Rhonda. And maybe more importantly, came from a great camp. And that camp, Jackson Winklejohn camp, one of the best camps in world. John Jones came out of that camp. Holly, Donald Serroney originally came out of that camp. A lot of great fighters came out of there. So they were really good at game planning. So they knew how Rhonda likes to clinch. They knew how Rhonda likes to set up or takedowns and they knew what to avoid. And then on top of that, Holly is just an elite striker. So every time Ron had tried to close the distance, the striking that she was very effective with against guys like Bech-Coha, these fighters that were a lower here it's not going to be as effective with someone like holly and holly started catching her on the

feet and had her rocked and then landed that famous high kick and put her out well i thought they were like the same age and same era but like holly's after she was able to learn from uh i wouldn't say they're they are the same era but holly you know she had wins and losses she lost to valentina to Shevchenko. She lost to some other fighters. But it was stylistically, it was a great matchup for her because she's an elite striker. She's really good at counterstriking. She's really good at movement. And when Rhonda has to close that distance, every fight starts in the feet. And when you're with a very physically strong woman, it's a good takedown defense and it's good at catching you as you're charging in, that was the problem in that fight.

also the problem in that fight I think for Rhonda is when you start becoming really famous then the hyenas show up and they start offering you this and offering you that and distracting you with this and distracting you with that and now you're going to meetings and you're talking to agents and you're setting up movies and you're doing this and you're doing that and all those things take away from the most important thing which is you're fighting Even if they don't take away from the amount of training you do, they take away from your focus. They just, they rob you of the bandwidth. You know, I always tell comics this when it comes to, like, dealing with haters and things online that you shouldn't read.

You only have, like, think of your mind as having a number of units of attention. Think you have, like, 100 units of focus. Anything that eats into those units, anything that bothers you, that annoys you, that's you. useless that doesn't help you that's stealing from your 100 you know so now you only have 80 units or 70 units of focus because 30 of it is concentrated on bullshit it will it'll rob you of what makes you great so there was two factors there was the skill of holly the fact that she had all this opportunity to study ronda and with a great team and devise a game plan and then there's also the stealing of focus you know ronda i was one of the biggest champions of her as a fighter

as a, like, a legitimate pioneer and a star. It was first, it was Gina Carrano, and Chris Cyborg to a certain extent, but Cyborg had an asterisk because everybody knew she was roided up. And then it was Rhonda, but Rhonda eclipsed all of them. She was bigger than all of them. I was a huge supporter, and still am, but when you watch a fight and you're watching you get your ass kicked, and the other person is talking about how great the other person is doing

and how bad you're doing, that doesn't sit well with a lot of people especially like someone who's got that kind of champion mentality that fucking pit pull mentality like I thought you were with me fuck you and then it was after the fight

I was very public about saying I don't think she should fight for a long time they were talking about doing an immediate rematch and I was like that's crazy like they were talking about doing a rematch in four months or something like that I was like when you get head kicked

into the shadow realm You're supposed to take a long time off. When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez, it was a fucking picture perfect right hand that knocked Manny Pacquiao out. His coach, Freddie Roach, said, you can't fight for a year. I don't want you doing anything for a year, for one year, because you've got to heal up from something like that. It's bad.

When you get knocked unconscious, it's not just that you'll be a touch gun shy, which is possible, but also that you're more vulnerable to getting hit and then you could ruin your chin forever like if you get knocked out there's certain fighters that used to have iron chins like chuck Liddell is one of the greatest examples of that he had an iron chin you could hit that dude with a fucking sledgehammer

and he would just keep swinging at you and then eventually it got to the point where he would get clipped and he would just go out and it wasn't him it was his his brain was broken it was too many times too many shots too many knockouts too many impacts You've got to preserve that.

You've got to be very careful with that. You've got to take a long time off. And then there was the Amanda Nunes fight. So the Amanda Nunes fight, I was also very vocal that everybody was putting all of the attention in the promotion on Ronda making this huge comeback. And if you watch the promos for that fight, I thought they were crazy disrespectful because the promos. And obviously, look, Ronda was a fucking huge star, a much bigger star. star than Amanda Nunes, and that loss was a shocking upset to a lot

of people that didn't understand martial arts and didn't think that Holly had a chance. Didn't think anybody had a chance. She was going to beat everybody forever. But all of the promo was Rhonda coming back. All of it was like, she's coming back to take what's hers. It was Rhonda in a mansion looking out, it was like the worst

promo set. Like, Rhonda in a mansion, looking out the window saying, I'm going to come get my title. I don't know who made that. I don't know what it was, but I remember being backstage, the day of the fight and there was all these agents mulling around all these Hollywood twats and this guy was like i forget his exact words they were talking he didn't know who ronda was fighting and he said who i don't know what her name is but whoever it is it's her funeral that's what he

said i was like oh my god like these are the people meanwhile Amanda nunes was the scariest person at 1.35. And that's what I had said before she fought Holly home. I mean, like Dana and I talked about, I said, I think Amanda's the scariest title challenger because she can flatline chicks with one punch. She's very different than all the other ones. She wound up flatlining Chris Cyborg.

It was a crazy fight. She beats the fuck out of everybody. She hits so hard, like way harder than most women. And I was like, that's a dangerous fucking opponent. And they're making it seem like this is all about the Ronda come back when Amanda was the champion. So Holly,

had beaten Rhonda, Misha Tate had beaten Holly, and then Amanda had beaten Misha Tate. So Amanda was the fucking champion, but all the promotion was all about Ronda. And then... They were trying to do, like, pro wrestling. Like... I don't know what they were doing.

She'll come back. I think, you know, they were just selling the fight. They were selling it. And the best way to sell it is, I guess, that way. It was more famous. But it's disrespectful to the champion, especially a fucking dangerous champion. And if she...

If the champion wins, which I thought you was... going to win, it sets up, it's not good to set her up. Like, you should set her up, like, how fucking danger she is. Now you've got a bigger star. Obviously, she wound up being a bigger star, and Amanda's the greatest of all time, like widely considered to be the greatest mixed martial arts female fighter in history. Because she fucks everybody up. She's just so dangerous. So, and then that fight happens, and then that lady takes Rhonda out in the first round, just beats the piss out of her, just stops her standing. It was brutal.

You know, I never had a bad thing to say about Ronda. I still don't. I understand her mentality. I mean, she's a champion-minded person. Like, she's like, you're fucking with me or against me. It's me against the world. You know, she doesn't have a chip on her shoulder. She's got a forest.

She's got a whole forest in her shoulder. Well, you know what I mean? But that's why she was so good. And we're lucky she's a woman. If that lady was a man, she'd be Gingas Khan. Okay, she'd fucking take over the world. She was an animal. That's scary.

So that's why she has that opinion That's just how she thinks about things I was mad at her just as an everyday man Because my nieces love any woman that's famous For any reason you know And my nieces also aren't experts about UFC They're little girls And they just think it's cool that a woman's a badass

You know they like that kind of stuff And so then when she lost to like You know be on TikTok I mean actually people made TikToks of it It's not like Rhonda Rousey was on TikTok But like she was like on Ellen being like I just wanted to quit and I saw my man and I just realized

I want to have babies and I was like this is not really the message you know if you'll lose to just go be a pro wrestler or have babies like that's not like I don't know I felt like it was a strange way for a champion to talk yeah but that's her legitimately as a human being that's what she wanted and there comes a time that's good no that would be a fine way to frame it well she was being honest she wanted to have babies she didn't want to do it

anymore. And there comes a time where, look, every fighter can only redline for so long. And the reality of fighting is you're redlining. What did that mean? You know what a redline, when the engine, you know, when your tecometer reaches like 8,000 RPMs, like,

B. Right. You can only do that for so long or your engine blows. But to be in peak physical condition, to be able to fight in a championship fight, you essentially have to redline your body through camp. You have to get your body to a place where it's at a You can't maintain fight shape.

It's not possible. You get to a certain part. You peak, and then the last week you kind of drop off so that you can recover. And so that Saturday night, when Saturday night rolls up, and the lights go on in Madison Square Garden, you are as fucking ready as a human being can get. But you can't maintain that, and you can't do that forever. And they think that there's a theory amongst mixed martial arts commentators and experts and what have you that there's about nine years.

Nine years is all it's possible to compete at a peak level. And then you get a drop off. Some people have more longevity than others. It varies. Some people, it's a much shorter rain. And you've got to kind of look at who they were when they were at the top. You can only look at them when they're at that peak. Like guys like Anderson Silva, he gets kind of dismissed because later in his life,

the performances weren't the same. They weren't elite performances But I say That's just human You got to look at him when he was the champion He was one of the most elite guys That's ever competed in the sport period He's one of the greatest of all time

But you can only You got to look at when he was in his prime Sure You know and there's only a certain amount of time You can do that And then when a fighter doesn't want to do that And only that anymore You got to get out

You got to get out Because there's some fucking 20 year old Mike Tyson out there There's some animal There's some dude that lives, breeze, sleeps,

fighting. And all they want to do is land shots and take you out. That's their whole focus in life. They don't give a fuck about relationships. They don't give a fuck about

where they live. They don't give a fuck about anything, just winning. And that's how you become a world champion. That's how you become elite. You can only maintain it

for so long. It's not a normal way for a human being to exist. It's a very strange way to live. Yeah, for sure. And for her, it's natural. Like,

she's a woman. And she's like, I want to have babies. I have this great man. And she's married to Travis Brown, who's also a beast, who was elite UFC heavyweight, top 10 heavyweight. You know, she's like, I'm done. I'm going to make some warrior kids. I get it. I saw it.

I was like, what the hell is that, man? She just didn't want to. You beat up, you quit? No, no, no. Now my niece is root for Holly Holme. Good lady. Yeah. Holly Holmes's nice.

She is nice. Yeah. That's what we like. We like the winners who are nice. Yeah, I get it. But there's something about Rhonda being Rhonda that made the sport what it is. But I root for Luke Skywalker, not Darth Vader. She's not Darth Vader.

Sure, Darth Vader's cooler, and he's probably more strong. He's got the thing, you know. But, you know, Luke's the good guy, and I like the good guy. And I root for the good guy. She's not a bad guy. She's, you know, like, look, her mother was a badass. Her mother was an elite judo competitor. Actually, I hate disagreeing with you, Joe.

But she went to wrestling, Rhonda, and then she said all these terrible things about the wrestlers. She said terrible things about you, who I love. She doesn't say anything terrible about me. She said you're not an expert about UFC. That's not terrible. That's just an opinion. Seems mean to me. No, no, no.

Look, if I was a pussy, it would be mean. Well, I'm a pussy. I'm defending a little. That's what I'm doing. If I was like, we do, dude. That's my whole identity. No, I'm just saying, you know, she's kind of a grumpy, gnarly. warrior and warriors can be

a little prickly. She's definitely prickly yeah, that's all. But that's why she was awesome. That's what made her great. That's what made her great. She broke that door wide open and all the women that came afterwards follow. And it's hard for women to become famous

in MMA because it's hard for them to have the kind of spectacular results that men have. They generally don't have as much power and unless they're like elite a judo or something like that like she was where they get arm bars and finish people quickly. That's what everybody likes.

Everybody likes dominance. And I want them to be hot. That helps. That's a good one. But it's hard to mix those worlds. Yeah, you get Nisha, her, Holly.

There's only a few of them that were like really hot and elite. In the old days, they weren't looking at the battle lines and they're going, I don't know, I wish these warriors had more tits. Like that's what I'm like a very conflicted person. I want him to be badass but also hot. Yeah.

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Yeah, for sure. Especially while they're fighting. You know, it's like, you don't really want that in your life. It's like, no way. You know what it's like? It's like a muscle car. Like, muscle cars are great to drive, but you don't want to take them on a road trip. Dude, Shabby took me, too.

So I have a great Lakers hook up, right? I go to all the Lakers games and I invited Brandon Schaubb when we first became friends I see you want to come to the Lakers game with me you like it We sit we have great seats We'll put you in the back

We'll meet the owner It'll be great So that's all my only kind of flex You know that can bring people To these kind of things I don't have a lot to offer But I can offer that So he's like yeah

I'll pick you up And he comes to my house Brandon Shob comes to my house Like in a race car I mean this thing is It's got the big spoiler on the back Also we're both big guys I'm 6 4

He's I don't know how tall he is But he's taller than me and we're in this tiny thing in traffic on the one-on-one going to a Lakers game and we can barely talk we're both talkers you know

and it's like the whole time and I was just sitting like halfway through the drive even though we were like new friends at the time I'm like what made you pick this car you have other cars

and he goes well you're like a little kid and my son loves this car so I just I picked it because of you you're like a little kid that's hilarious and he was right because when he pulled up I was like, oh, this is awesome.

But then I got in and I was like, bro, we're not built for this thing. It's dining. Yeah. But that's not a, like your analogy. Like, that's not a day-to-day. No, that's not a road trip car. You want to be in a Cadillac. You know, it would be something which's quiet and real smooth and handles bumps well.

Exactly. Like a person. Right. Yeah. Someone. Yeah. Like, you want a one-night stand. You want a muscle car.

Right. You want a long-term relationship. Get a Lexus. And if you go to the Lakers game, bring a goddamn SUV or something. Yeah. Bring something. It's unreal. We're in the traffic.

Bring something quiet with good air conditioning. His heart was in the right place, and he was completely right. What car was it? I don't know what is. It was like, I wouldn't even be able to guess. It was cool, though. You're not into cars? I love cars, but I like the cars I like.

I've always loved big stupid things. Like, I love, like, big military vehicles. Have you seen his Hummer? Yeah, I love all that stuff. Yeah, he's got a real Hummer with like a crazy diesel turbocharged engine. Last time I was here, and I did his podcast, he had this huge Bronco that he had. He was, like, doing some thing where you're selling it, like enough people buy tickets for it or something like that.

Oh, yeah. That truck was a beautiful truck. And I like, that's what I like is, like, big, stupid tires. Anything in Mad Max, I loved, anything in the military drives. I was like, can I buy that? They're like, no, this is not built for that. You can buy a lot of things. Yeah, but, like, you've got to go to those auctions and shit.

Yeah, you just got to know people. You get a lot of things these days. I would love that. Yeah, there's some crazy. I've never owned anything that fits in my garage. No? No, I have to. park on the street all the time. I had to get rid of my last

Jeep because I put like 46 inch tires on it and I lifted it up and like it has no doors and no top and so it's just parked in Sherman Oaks on the street and I'm on the road so much. And it's just sitting there. Just sitting there. So I come back there'd be you know just like

someone would walk by with like a soda and just throw it in there you know because you know they don't care. And they get mad at you right what you what a douche yeah and where I am it's not popular to have cool big shit like that. Right. Sherman Oaks is It's popular to have a Prius with a co-exist bumper sticker. It's so annoying.

I have a cyber truck, and you can't really lift it, but since it has an air suspension, you can buy pins that make the air suspension one inch larger than whatever it's adjusting to. Because if you put a lift on it, it's going to screw it all up. So anyways, long story short, I have a lifted cyber truck with big stupid tires on it, and I drive into the comedy store parking lot and I'm like this really isn't helping my reputation every time I'm rolling everyone's like what is that? It used to be

that if you had a Tesla you were signaling that you were a left wing person. You know you're environmentally conscious worried about carbon. Yeah that was one of the more crazy shifts and we could come up with a thousand of these but like EVs used to be

considered like this great thing you're doing Well they still are unless it's a cyber truck Unless it's a Tesla. I get flipped off every day. Really? In my cyber truck. Yeah, every day. There's a video of this lady in New Jersey.

She gets out of a cyber truck. It just gets out. She was a passenger. And this lady who's walking her dog goes, how does it feel to be racist? And she's like, what are you talking about? She got a ride. She wasn't even driving.

Someone dropped her off. She's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, you're a racist. You're in a cyber truck. You're racist. And she's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You're crazy. It blows my mind.

Well, people are always looking. for every possible opportunity to be a shithead. And if they can be a shithead, if they're justified in being a shithead because they disagree with you, they would be the meanest motherfuckers just to be a shithead. And that activity happens primarily on the left.

Primarily. Like, you don't see that from the right. Like, if someone pulls up in a Prius with a coexist bumper sticker, you don't see a bunch of guys going, Hey, you fucking pussy. Yeah, exactly. What are you, you supporting fucking Iraq?

Get out of our town. You support an ISIS with your fucking bullshit fucking bumper sticker on your shitback car? Has it feel to be an ISIS supporter. You don't get that. Ever. But you get that from the left. And I don't, I think it's the Trump thing. I think Trump was such a figure, is such a figure of like an attack vector that they look at him like,

it's fun for them. Yeah, it's fun. They have an enemy. They have an enemy. They have their brain at all times. They have an enemy. Yeah. Yeah, like Jimmy Kimmel's wife was doing some podcast recently.

Jimmy and the wife and the wife was saying that she has a hard time talking to her relatives because they voted for Trump. She says, like, if you vote for Trump, you're voting against my. Yeah, you're voting against my husband and my family. Like, what are you talking about? Well, I think that that's the big sci-op. They've made everything racial. Yeah.

Everything is racial. And so the last thing you want to be called is a racist, right? So when you make it as simple as race, like just racial, like just that blanketly simple, then anything another color does, you'd be considered, so you go, oh, I don't really believe, or I think Muslims are blank, whatever that sentence is, you go, racist. And you go, well, there's surely some things we could criticize about maybe North Korea. They go, oh, you're racist. So it's because it's so simple and it's so vague. And people love to keep vague things because then they can make their. I saw a comedian, I won't say her name because I can't pronounce it, but it's, that's why I won't say it.

Not because I'm holding back names. Mary Lynn Reichib or Ricegib or whatever her name is. Oh, I know Marilyn. Yeah, she used to be really nice to me. She used to be? Yeah, she got caught talking shit about me, and I DM'd her immediately. And then she's like, ugh, uh, uh, and, you know, I think she's a nice person. She's a very nice person.

Yeah, she's nice. People get caught up in that shit, man. I saw her do a bit the other night in the lab where she, She was like, I'm texting with this guy, and he said, she said, how are you? And he said, oh, I'm just really sad up today about Charlie, about Charlie Kirk. And then she goes, and my hand was like, my phone was on fire. I was like, ugh, ugh, like what? And then the crowd laughed to her defense.

Like the lab at the improv thought this was a hilarious premise. And then she said, she was like, what part of his ideas did you find so, gripping. What was it his racist? She just started launching into like about how like the fact that a guy she liked would be sad about Charlie Kirk's assassination was the biggest turnoff to her that she wrote like a whole bit about it. And I was just in my mind. I was like, I can't believe that this is her take. I can't believe it's a take that the crowd is on board with. And I can't believe I'm in this town anymore like I was like a moment for me where I was like what am I insane no like that's what makes me those are the moments where you go I think I'm the crazy person

there's a room full of people here who agree that Charlie Kirk must have been this terrible thing and hence deserves being publicly assassinated and if you feel sad about it you're gross to her and she wants to throw her phone away and she wants to throw her phone away And she wants to go, oh, and that's hilarious to everyone. Wow. Because the simple veggness of race, you know, it's like this, this constant obsession with, you know, you have to agree with a socialist mayor in New York, or you must be a racist or Islam, they've just made it so vague that it's very easy to always label her or put things in a thing. Well, there's certainly cult-like thinking involved in both the wrong.

right and the left. It's a real problem with people that identify with any political ideology, whether it identifies being a conservative or identifies being a liberal. It's a real problem because then you lose all your objective thinking and you have to agree with everything that this side supports. And generally, that's never a good thing to just agree with like a swath of predetermined ideas. Yeah. And one is, that public assassinations are okay and they're not sad. They're sad no matter who it is. And I would say even if Charlie Kirk was a terrible person, even if he was, which he was not, I knew him and he was not. But even if he was, let's say they're right about all those things.

You're happy that he got shot? Now, the correct way to handle someone who has bad ideas is to confront them with better ideas. It's not a 30-odd-six round to the neck publicly where people are cheering. That's crazy. And they kept it vague. They keep it vague. That's how it always works. It's like, well, I go, well, why are you posting on social media that you're happy about it or that you're not sad about it?

Just tell me simply why you think that. And they go, well, because his ideas were dangerous, super vague. Didn't say the ideas, didn't say how they're dangerous or why they're dangerous. It's always vague. Well, there's also a problem with clips. When you take sound bites, like very short clips out of context of what someone's saying, and then you highlight that one particular sentence and the way they said that sentence, you could frame someone in a very different way than who they really are.

And I think there was some problems with some of the things that Charlie said, the way he said them, and in the fact that you could take it as a clip. And one of them was the idea of DEI pilots. Like the idea of any lowering of standards of anyone in a really important job like a pilot because a person is blank, fill in the blank, because they're a lesbian, or because they're gay, or because they're white, or because they're Chinese, or because they're black, or whatever it is. If you're lowering standards because you want more people of one thing, well, you've just made the skies a little more dangerous. You've made a very dangerous thing, which is flying, a little more dangerous. So his statement was because they're doing this and they're trying to get, they're using DEI to hire people. And when I get on a plane and I see a black pilot, I hope that they're qualified.

Or he wonders. Yeah. He said, I don't want, I hate that when I see a black pilot, my mind thinks I wonder if they were part of a DEI hiring. Correct. Right. That's, it's a problem in the way he said it. Right. Instead of saying that, that way.

Because one of the things that I pointed out is that what DEI, especially in regards to education, the people that discriminates the most against, like people say it's a white supremacist idea to be against DEI, the people that DEI discriminates the most against in education is Asians because Asians fucking kill it in universities. They kill it so much so that there was a giant lawsuit at Harvard because. they were making their admission standards more difficult for Asian people than they were for white people, for black people, for everybody else. They made Asians more difficult because if they didn't, half of their fucking population in their classes would be Asian because they work harder. It's a cultural thing. You know, I grew up in Taekwondo and I grew up around a lot of Koreans. And man, you haven't seen Work ethic until you've seen first generation Koreans who come over to America. And, you know, they have those tiger moms and tiger dads.

That's a real thing, dude. That is a fuck, I guess. Well, I mean, for these sort of subjects. It's good for getting things done. It's not great for trauma. It's not great for your head. Right. But if we're talking about the workforce or symphony. If it's just a meritocracy, it's like who is the best student?

Who is the best this, who's the best that? Yeah, it's good for that. You know, but it's like, it's the same thing. It was like trying to be a champion. Like, you only red line for so long before you go. fucking crazy and the lack of balance between pleasure and and struggle and discipline and fun you have to have balance if you want to have a good life and ultimately you're supposed to be enjoying your life i don't think you could truly enjoy your life without some measure of discipline i think

discipline is important it's the reason why you can enjoy the relaxing moments because you earn them you have to earn them and but i do think you should have them too and when i was around a lot of of Korean guys, like my friend Junk Sick, I've talked about him before, but he was a national champion. When we were kids, he was not as talented as other people. He wasn't as fast. He wasn't, he didn't have any unusual genetic gifts that some people had, but that motherfucker worked so hard. He was in residency, okay? So he was in medical school while he was on the national team. So he would go to school all day, and for workout sometimes he would take all his books, put him in his backpack, and run upstairs at the school. Just run upstairs at the

university. That's how he'd get some of his cardio in. And then he would come to the gym and he would be, you know, he'd come to the gym for nighttime training. We'd train at like six o'clock at night, seven o'clock at night, and he would be just drained. But he would fucking, ah, just dig in and get to it, man. And it was just, it's that mentality is why Asians do so well in school. It's like this pushing from their parents, the high pressure. And again, I don't think it's so good for you psychologically. I don't do that with my kids. My kids do very well in school, but they do very well in school because of the example that I and my wife said of be a nice person, work really hard, have discipline, do the stuff you're supposed to do, don't fuck off. You know, get the things

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That's BetterH-E-L-P dot com slash J-R-E. This is where you see the hypocrisy of the education system, though, because they claim to be all about diversity. Asians are part of diversity. They're small percentage of the population in America, but they're fucking killing it. So they try to hold them back. Right.

Because it's bullshit. But that's a problem. Because in their mind, Asians don't complain. much. They get to work more. They're not the ones that are out there organizing, making signs, making signs. They're not doing that. They're fucking working. They don't have time to be going to these rallies and cheering and chanting. They fucking get to work. So because of that, they're not as represented when it comes to like grievances. So they, you know, you can get away with being racist against them. Right. And you can get away with discriminating against them in higher education universities like Harvard. Which is just crazy because it shows your life. lying, you're not really caring about minorities. You're caring about very specific minorities because they give you social clout to represent and to fight for them. Like if you're fighting for black people, if you're fighting for trans people, those are the people that are really noisy and really loud. And if you're on their side. And you look good if you defend them. You're

virtuous. Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. It's performative. I think about it every week almost. It sounds strange, but like these kind of things consume me. I don't have a wife and kids, you know? Like, I think about these things all day. But, like, I think about it with, like, in our business, you know? Like, there are so many women who complain, like, oh, no girls on the lineup or only two girls on the line. And I'm like, you're, there's less of you. That's all it is. In fact, the fact that there's less of you in our industry is why you're able to stand out and succeed so much quicker than your male counterparts.

So, yes, it can feel like a boys club because it is. There's plenty of disadvantages to being a female comedian, like, putting up with these comedy club owners or working the road or like it is there's fans being creepy with you creepy fans did they're different like a hundred percent and i'm sympathetic to the things female comics have to go through but if they just don't understand the numbers like there's there's girls in los angeles who are regulars at the improv and the laugh factory and the comedy store who have been doing it a few years and then there's guys that i know that have been doing it 15 years who us you know subjectively are very very very funny and subjectively funnier than them but at least inarguably funny and they can't get any spots at these places because that we need more women comics alleged I mean we need more diverse lineups they've literally said that we have too many white male comics I've heard it my whole career it's crazy yeah one time I was in Boston and there was this long line for this festival and all

this thing a little bit not it was to submit like to do audition they were it was during last comic standing times so they were doing these things where they liked filming the line and going look how many people are here to try out for our festival or whatever and um someone came out and goes listen if you're a straight white guy you better be real different and all of us just because boston we're all straight white guys and i just remember being like well that kind of hurt my feelings a little bit like what like what does that imply i don't know i only know about my circumstances i can't have i can't one time my agent said to me he was talking about one of his clients and he was like Jeff listen man

I got this one client he's handsome he's his parents are deaf you know he's he's black he's got all these great things that make him very interesting for the industry I think you're going to have to like reinvent yourself or something I was like I can't make things

up like I don't know what to tell you I'm a white guy just Hollywood yeah and Hollywood's influence with the long tentacles of the octopus but we don't do that in Texas like in And the mothership, it's a meritocracy. And because it's a meritocracy, it's very diverse. Yeah.

You got a lot of women on the lineup. You got a lot of all kinds of people, a lot of gay people. And the one thing that people keep saying about the comedy mothership is, oh, it's right-wing comedy club. The vast majority of comics at my club are left-wing. The vast majority. Yeah, no, I can personally vouch for that. Yeah, yeah. They're artists.

But they're reasonable lefties. Yeah, they're kind of people. Who can sit in a room with a comic who doesn't. to agree with their politics and still just be human. Like that's a great... We should all aspire to that. And that's what we aspire to at that club. Like, we don't tolerate any bullshit ideologically, one side or the other.

It's not supposed to be about that. It's supposed to be at the art form. And, you know, there's... Shit, a lot of my fucking friends are, like, far left. I don't care. Are you nice? Are you cool? Do you have interesting thoughts?

Can we have conversations? I'm down with that. But there's this propensity, this thing that people do where they just decide you have a different ideology than me so you're the enemy and i think that is one of the stupidest things you could do as a human being it's weak it's it's simple it's you're you're doing something that's just too convenient it and you're doing it because you know it'll be supported by a bunch of other fucking morons because we're in a tic-tok generation where most people don't have nuanced perspectives on things yeah like i am a christian right i've been a christian since i was in

my young 20s, I talk about it in my act. I talk about it in my life. And guess what? I have never once crashed out because of my Seattle comedian friends going on stage and calling Christians idiots or racists or fools or dummies. I've never once gone, I can't share a green room with someone who would expouse that type of hatred towards my faith, right? Never once. I've heard every joke about straight white males. I've heard every, and I'm nice. And I can get laughs and I'm pleasant to be around in these comedy clubs but that's why you're doing well right and I'm now and I am but you're doing well because you became undeniable yeah and that's the real meritocracy aspect of comedy is that if you kill if the audience laughs and people keep

coming to see you you have an audience right and the one thing that drives a lot of people crazy is they've done all the right things and no one comes to see me yeah because you forgot the one thing you might have been doing the wrong yet you forgot the one thing be funny that's it You fell into all the easy stuff. All the easy stuff is align yourself with the group, all the group think, all the fucking chant all the right stuff, say all the right things. Say things that don't even make sense. Right. So that you appear, well, that's what I'm saying is that like when the Mark Marin strategy.

The second I got passed at the comedy store, multiple comics went to the to the booker and was like, he shouldn't be here. He does jokes about gay people and he does jokes about, yeah, yeah, I do. Guess what? And they kill. and I get laughs but again you can still come up to me and talk to me

and like I'm not I like everybody I like trans people I have plenty of gay friends I I you know you may have jokes about straight people too though

and you are one of them that's the thing it's also fun to be naughty isn't it yeah I love women but I trash them pretty hard in my act you know

and so the only reason I was bringing all that up is that like I feel like I've never once gone I can't talk to someone because of their stand-up comedy. I'm not going to go to the improv and go,

Mary Lynn Rice Gibbs shouldn't be allowed here because what she said about Charlie Kirk and I was offended. I bet if you had a conversation with her about an actual conversation, it would be very reasonable. Yeah, because people are people. And we should be able to share these spaces with these people no matter what we think.

I'm not so far right or so far Christian that I go, I can't be in the same room. That's what cult people think. Also, if you had a conversation with her and confronted her with the reality of what that guy had said, and some of the conversations that he had with both trans people, people of color, all kinds. He was a very kind person. 100%.

The problem is you don't look kind when there's clips. And the clips show you're saying something. Aren't you afraid of that? Oh, yeah. Listen, I'm kind of a little bit inoculated against that because I have so many hours of me talking. So did he. Yeah, but in a different way. where people are listening to me having these three-hour conversations.

It's like, it's kind of hard to label me to anybody who's paying attention. And it's just the, it's also the, the benefit of having the biggest platform in the world. Right. Like, it's like, there's enough people that have seen so many shows that, like, I know who that guy is. That's not who that guy is. I think you're giving them a lot of grace. Because you have to. Because, like, people are you afraid of AI?

No. I'm afraid of AI. What I'm afraid of is clips, short context things. Even recently I did Howie Mendel's podcast, and I got asked for the millionth time about the Mark Maren thing. And I was like, what? Dude, the good part of that Mark Maren story is that we buried it, I think. Who knows? It'll rear its head again, I'm sure.

I'm not with that guy. There's no burying anything. I know. But I was like, how about that story? Tell that story, Howie, that we shook hands at the comedy store and we were able to share a stage. Not stage, but share a room full of stages. Um, it just, Howie's, Howie Mendel's team just posted the thing. So, you know, all the comments are like, Jeff, I can't stop talking about Mark Maron again.

And like that's what I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk's guilty of, or not guilty of it, but a victim of it. Um, this short, real thing that is out of context. It's not a three hour conversation. No one's listening to Trump in long form. No one listened to Charlie Kirk in long form. The people that were informed did. But I'm saying the, the everyday person, is kind of just kind of collecting these excerpts and then forming a group think about those excerpts and the group think becomes their reality. That's very true.

And I'm afraid of that for you. Yeah, that there's true in some ways, but it's also benefits you in some ways too. It's like there's good and bad. Like there's little things that you'll say that are funny that make it into clips and that's good too. It's like the thing, like I was talking to Tony about this because we were talking about people

that complain about his show and talk shit about a show I go, dude, they work for you. They don't realize it, but they work for you. They're the publicity arm, the negative publicity arm for the Kill Tony show. You don't worry about it and don't care.

You can't, you know. Write a book on that. Teach me how to not care. You just got to get to a point where you don't have to care anymore. Like, it's not going to affect you. You know what I mean? Yeah.

But that's, but you're in that position where I'm in that kind of sort of, You're not totally ever in that position, but you're much more in that position than the average person. It's your duty to not care. It's your duty to set an example and to say, look, you're supposed to be, when you get to the top, you're not supposed to be mean and, like, defend it and push everybody down. You're supposed to lift everybody up and be what you would hope the guy at the top would be. Be supportive, try to help other people's careers, try to promote them, tell everybody how cool they are, tell everybody how funny they are, tell everybody good things that you know. Instead of complaining all the time about everything, find cool shit and inform people about it.

Tell people cool shit that you've seen, cool restaurants you've been to, cool music you've listened to, cool people you met. Do that. That's what I try to do. And that is my obligation, I think, in having the top podcast. You have to set an example that's beneficial for not just me, but for everybody. Sure. Yeah. And don't care as much.

Don't care as much about haters. You're going to have haters. The idea that you're not going to have people that hate you is crazy. Fucking, you could get like the, one of the things that I know from MMA, the greatest fighters, the best guys in their prime. There's going to be guys coming up that say he ain't shit. I'll fuck him up. I'll take him out in one round.

There's always that. He's got no defense. He's got no chin. He's got no heart. He's only good when he's winning. As soon as it gets turned on him, he's going to fold. There's always someone talking. And if you live your life constantly responding to those people,

it's a waste of that 100. That 100 units of attention and focus that you have, you've got to protect that. You've got to guard that 100 units, man. Don't let anybody steal your units with a comment on YouTube. And it's never in real life for me. Right. It's never in real life.

Well, that's the problem. I have to open this shit. Yeah. before I spiral out. Even in my town of Los Angeles, you know, people go, why you had this fucking dump? And then I,

and then I'm walking around in Sherman Oaks. I've got my coffee. I'm seeing dogs. I'm seeing hot chicks. And my breeze was like, man, what's up, Jeff? Like, I'm friends with ever. Yeah, wherever I go,

like, because I go to the same spots and I talk to everyone. So, like, I've accumulated all these people who go, oh, we know that community's the best or whatever. Like in my little community, but then I turn on my phone, you know. You've seen this old bomb Babababobo me guy.

He's a Muslim. He's going to ruin New York. And then I start going, yeah, yeah, what the hell's going on with it? I think New York is due for a little socialist wake-up call. Oh, yeah, they'll wake up. These things balance. They're going to have 5,000 police officers have threatened to resign. Don't you think New York kind of deserves it?

Is that true? Is that true? Is that true? Find out that number's true. Because here's the problem with those kind of things. It's like right-wing people post stuff like that. And you're like, is that real? You know, are they really going to defund the police? So they're really going to, you know, have struggle sessions.

Are you? In Texas? Yep. Yehaw. Yeah, like about 30, 40 minutes from here. Nice. You already locked on it? No, but I'm shopping for houses on Wednesday.

Oh, tomorrow. Oh, Wednesday. I got a good lady. If you need one, she's the best. I have a chick who's pretty good. She's like the number one in Arizona. She's... Arizona's not Texas.

I know, but she has all these contacts. Also, I just know her. Okay. So that helps. It's good to be loyal. Yeah. And she found a bunch of good stuff. yeah about 40 minutes from here well that's good too 40 minutes from here out like

tripping springs area it's quiet that's what I want I want you go at night you hear I want to go to a lake you know be able to like I'm kind of in this kind of LA thing and this I'm I could be guilty of being a victim of like what I'm absorbing in my algorithm but like Gavin Newsom scares the shit out of me and I I'm I don't want to be a part of it. Yeah. He wants to run the whole country, too. It's wild.

Pretty wild. Those fires were quite a wake-up call for even if, you know, whatever you believe about the fires, the way it was dealt with was pretty scary. It was not competent. That's for sure. Even the aftermath. Yeah. And the, the conversations about talking to different developers about doing stuff with the land and different speculators. That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about. I was like, what do you, what? We'll make a smart town. You're like, that's kind of what the conspiracy people were saying before this stuff happened. See when he's doing a little dance in front of burnt houses? I know. That is, are you a sociopath? Because that's how sociopaths behave.

They're not like totally broken up by the fact that a giant chunk of your city burnt to the ground. Did 5,000 peace people resign? I don't think they say they threatened to resign. There's no credible evidence of 5,000 peace officers resign. Okay, why don't you say did they threaten to resign? I did when I typed it in Google. And I got the same answers. Oh, okay.

In perplexity, it says, did 5,000 people resign? No. What actually happened, official data and statements from NYPD representatives confirmed there has been no mass walkout, while police union leaders and some critics have warned of potential wave of resigns or feared attrition. See, that was a thing. Social media posts alleging 5,000 officers. I didn't see any that said resign. I saw something that said are threatening to resign.

Go back to where I was reading. at once have been debunked as rumors or satire. NYPD has about 33,745 uniform officers as of late 2025, with staffing down only slightly from the previous year. So it's like maybe it's one of those things where someone talked to some people and they said, I know a lot of guys. A lot of guys are threatening to resign. Well, I mean, that's a serious thing to talk about anyways,

whether it's true or not on the numbers. Like, it's not a fun time to be a police officer for the last, like, like, pre-Black Lives Matter. I know a lot of cops just in my life. I used to perform once a year for their, like, Christmas thing at the LAPD. Great audience members. You want to talk about good audience members, police, military, nurses, anyone who deals with real life is a very good audience members. They could take a joke. Yeah, oh, great, taking jokes.

And they need to see the humor in life, you know? Like, they're like, they're looking for a clown to laugh at because they deal with real shit. But that aside, in the last eight years, when cops tell me they're cops that shows, it's like, hey, you know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a police. And I'm like, what's with this embarrassment? Like, why are you, why do you feel like you need to be like an undercover police officer when you're like, whisper it? Yeah, why? I like cops. I think that they're great. They have to go into someone's worst day of their life every day. Anytime you've ever had to call a cop, it's not a great day. It's not a great thing that's happening. And they have to enter. someone's worst day every 15 minutes or every hour and I have a tremendous amount of respect for people that do that and they feel they feel ashamed to be a cop because they've been vaguely blanketed as like oppressors or racist or some sort of power hungry bad guys and that's probably a little worse in NYPD right now as far as being in the city with what's going on so I imagine there's a lot of people who are threatening the same way whenever someone's president isn't the president they want they go I'm going to move they make those kind of threats some people do move yeah some people do a lot of rich guys are really getting out of I respect Rosie and Ellen for that don't you respect that every celebrity says they're going to leave well it's dumb that they left because now they just can't vote and now that you know that you're living

in Ireland but at least they said what they were going to do you live in England and then your neighbors in England don't like you either because they're like yeah exactly but that's true but at least they left to move to a new place in England hundreds of celebrities said they would leave and didn't that's true yeah there's always a lot of that a lot of people said they're going to move to Canada well great good luck with that but now you're just America light well you're America communist now Canada's nuts but now you're like still reliant on America I know sad that I wanted to look up that I just read I put this in a perplexity one out of 20 deaths last year I read this article that was saying was assisted suicide that can't be true

That can't be true. Where'd you see it? Because in Kino, Canada has an assisted suicide program, a national assisted suicide program. Yeah. Could you imagine if there's some corruption in that? Holy crap. There's corruption in everything, Jeff. Everything.

Every fucking thing. There's corruption in religion. Right? There's corruption in science. There's corruption in medicine. Which becomes a great excuse to not be a part of those things, you know? Oh, I won't even question if I was. if I have a creator because there's fouled people in the church.

You're like, that's so stupid. Well, yeah. It's accurate for Canada. Wow. One in Toronto. One in America. Canada. Canada.

Yeah. Put, let me see the numbers. That's still a lot in it. Put those, show the perplexity. Look at this. This is crazy. Medical assistance in dying, note as made. Also as known as assisted suicide or euthanasia, accounted for approximately 4.7% of all.

All deaths in Canada. That's wild. That is so crazy. How do we get more specific? Like what would be an example of like how? We'll read into it. This proportion is equivalent to about one in 20 deaths across the country. That is so fucking insane.

One out of 20 people who die in Canada are getting assisted suicide. How many of those fucking people you could have given mushrooms to? They could have had an Ibegain journey. Maybe they could have fucking done something different. differently with their life to get them out of depression how many of them could could have gotten alternative medical treatments that have dealt with their condition so what are the conditions does it's did you put that in there james average age of them is 70 77 so that's old yeah that is old but however you know my mom's 80 she's great you know like what what's going

off yeah she doesn't want to like what what is it are you not just because you're 77 are you not enjoying life or is it is it one out of 20 people are dying of a terminal illness and i am being short-sighted because i'm not thinking they're like going to die soon anyway they choose to die on their own is that the case track one is natural death is reasonably foreseeable and track two is not reasonably foreseeable for natural death right um so track two recipients this is where it gets weird because some of them were chronically obese some of them were chronically depressed they were doing it for people that don't really have a disease. So what are the parameters?

Let's put this, ask a follow-up. What do you have to have wrong with you to qualify for made in Canada? Let's just ask that. How do you qualify for me? Because if it's just you're depressed. That's scary. That's crazy. Right.

And very irresponsible. If you have cancer and they're trying to just like, I'm done with my fight, please help me. Right. Right. Is what track one is, but we're talking about track two. Be at least 18 years old and capable of making health care decisions. Be eligible for publicly funded health service. Okay, that's normal. Voluntary request, informed consent, have a serious and incurable illness, disease, or disability,

causing enduring and intolerable suffering that cannot be alleviated under conditions acceptable to the person. But that's the key phrase there, acceptable to the person is interesting. Be an advanced state of irreversible, decline, and capability. Okay, are people with depression, just write severe. Are people with severe depression eligible for made? Write that. Severe depression. Because a lot of people would say that is an incurable disease.

Where would we be without the red squiggly line? I don't know how to spell anything. I can't spell anything ever. I never have been. Jimmy, you're rolling the dice with eligible? You're an animal. In Canada, people whose sole underlying medical condition to severe depression or any other mental illness

are currently not eligible for medical assistance and dying. This temporary exclusion includes psychiatric conditions like depression and personality disorders. The law excludes eligibility from made on the basis of mental illness alone in March 17, 2027. However, people with mental illnesses may be eligible if they have a grievous, grievous, or irremediable, boy, that's a word. Have you ever said that word?

Irremediable. I've never said that word. But I've never even seen that. Irremediable, physical health condition that meets maids criteria. The government has delayed eligibility expansion for mental illness due to concerns around safety and appropriate safeguards

when made for mental illness becomes legal. They say it like it will be. 2027 March. Oh, okay. That's what I'd read. Okay, this was the issue. So they were going to.

Okay. The law excludes eligibility for made on the basis of mental illness alone until March 17, 2027. So there's a year and a few months and then these people are eligible for this. As a 2025, severe depression alone is not qualified.

So what it seems like is a lot of people that are just not doing well it's the end of their life and they're like I'd like to go out on my own terms I don't want to just walk into a library with a 44 and make people clean up

or they go I'm a financial burden on my family or those kind of things when you're an old person you feel a little guilt that like ah my kids that's true and also sometimes people like one of their loved ones dies

and they don't want to be alone they just can't they've been with this person for 45 years my dad just died and my mom is not doing great with the I mean she's been with him since she was 17 it's very hard my grandfather died one year after my grandmother died and he was fine up until then and it was just like the the grief was just intolerable yeah and she's feeling a lot of guilt because he was kind of cognitively

I don't know I don't know how to say it politely he was just kind of not not himself for the last like year and so when he passed um my mom did feel a little relief like you know oh yeah I'm kind of as caretaker right right and so then feel guilt about the about the relief you know you know I don't want to feel relieved that someone that I'm that I've known my whole life is gone and then now trying to mourn that you know it's very very complicated and that's real hard when yeah someone has dementia or Alzheimer's or anything along those lines the patients that these people have to work with dementia and those kind of even an

eating disorder is is you know you can't really communicate it to the person when they have this body dysmorphia or these like something as simple as that yeah those people are saints that can work with absolutely got anybody cognitively or like any kind of like dysphoria like that's that's I mean I those are heroes to me because I don't have the patience for it I'm very like direct I'm very like want to have a good time like I'm not good at being like how don't you see this apparently some really promising treatments for dementia and Alzheimer's Um, one of them, one of those dementia or Alzheimer's was the supplement of supplementation with selenium. See if you can find what that is.

That's one of those things that glanced at quickly and I was like, I better remember this. I probably shouldn't say this on here, but there's a beautiful great woman named Lydia who I've been hanging out with and her mom was, had some sort of dementia or some, something like this. And she gave, their family had a real long debate about. what the doctor recommended was shock therapy and it worked really it works for now I guess like at least like they're all going wait now she's saying didn't you just come over last week and we talked about that like she's having things like I that's why I'm saying I don't know if I should say it on here because there was a positive outcome of the shock therapy yeah it's funny because someone just sent me a link to a documentary on shock therapy that was a negative thing

You believe they're still doing shock therapy? Right. And I said, like, I don't know much about that. Yeah. You know, the only shock therapy I've ever heard was, like, you hear about the horror stories. I don't know. Right. One flew over the cuckoos next.

Those are lombotomies, though, right? I think that was a shock therapy thing. Oh, I thought those were lombotomies. Well, it might be. It might be a lobotiv. We've all agreed. Although, dude, they were doing them long after they were out. Did them forever.

Yeah. Because those guys wanted money. Health care. I think it was like the year I was born or the year before I was born, they stopped doing them. I heard all these stories about there would be, like, people who would still, you know, on the fringes of it. Because they didn't want to, like, shut down their practice. So they'd be like, hey, you know, we'll still give it to you. Like basement abortions. Yeah. And they would be like, this authoritarian government's not even letting people have lombotomies, but we'll still do it.

I'm the doctor that'll still do it. It's lobotomy. Is it? Am I saying it? Yeah, I think it was shot. I say, Lombotomy. Dude, you know what, Joe, for a big part of my life, I thought it was Sarah Bell's palsy. Hold on, what did you just say?

The movie was shock therapy. Yeah, it was. Sarah Bell's Palsy? Yeah, so we're watching this game or something, and the guy looked crazy, and I go, it looks like he's got Sarah Bell's palsy. My friend, no one laughed. No one laughed, which is a good comedy note, is that if you say a thing wrong, or it's a false premise or something, no one's on board with it.

But if you say it around comedians. Well, I said around a bunch of people watching football. It looks like he's got Sarah Bales palsy, and everyone just looked at me. And then my friend Katie's like, did you say Sarah Bels? And I was like, wasn't that what it is? Cerebral palsy And I was like, I don't know I've never seen the movie

So I don't know how it ended It says they discovered at the end He had been lobotomized Right The big chief guy was Lombatomized That's the plot of the movie The big boy, yeah

Oh so he was lobotomized But was Jack Nicholson Supposed as well They were just in a cuckoo house Yeah But at the end Shock therapy here Right they did shock therapy

But remember at the end He was like totally docile Maybe they were letting you know He got lobotomized too Probably they did that forever when did they stop doing lobotomies wasn't it like 67

plumbotomy when they stopped doing lobotomies when they stopped doing lobotomies this is a thing I have what year was it I love to talk about plenty of things I know and don't know about it's fun yeah the one doctor

did almost all of them what did one third of them that's a lot how many did he do how rich was he let's say let's say what was his net worth he had a nice Mercedes I bet he had a huge house.

Yeah, one-third of his 3,500 lobotomies. Good God. Successful and 490 resulted in fatalities. Wait, hold on. He killed 490 people by scrambling their brain. Which ones were successful? It worked. What is that mean?

They were perfect. But what does that mean? It's only 12. Billy just drools. Now he doesn't fuck the dog anymore. He's not annoying us with his, uh, what, you know, undiagnosed, um, autism. Now he's like, now he just sits there. It's not successful.

Hey, he doesn't fuck the dog anymore. It's his success. That's the guy? Oh, that fucking creepy-looking psycho. Oh, Jesus Christ, that's how they did it. They went right through the fucking eyeball, man. I thought they went through the nose. No, they go through the other way.

They could do both probably. There's one through the nose. That's the one I knew about it. They do both ways through the nose, through the fucking eyeball. Fucking, God damn it. And in the end, look, he's happy. Oh, I thought he was giving a thumbs up. He was a mess.

I thought he was going, hell, yeah. He's like, I feel great. Imagine if they just scrambled it a little. So it's like you're just on ecstasy all day? Wee, I love everybody I will say the first time I did mushrooms I was like, because my buddy's like The cool thing about mushrooms is that you don't want

It's not like cocaine or Or E or anything You're not gonna become like addicted to mushrooms You don't want to do mushrooms every day And then the second I did mushrooms I was sitting in the chair and I was like you guys were wrong And they're like what? I go I just want to feel like this all the time

Like you lost your mind Like this is the right state of being for me Like it's the best It should be legal It's the best drug It's better at making people better people than anything. Yes. All I wanted to do, and still since then, is like, let's just talk and connect and like, let's find a way.

Let's be nice. Yeah, let's be good. Let's be nice to each other. Nobel Prize for the. Oh, wow. Not that same doctor, but a different doctor. Oh, okay. A Nobel Prize.

That'd make people go ahead and get it, right? So they started getting him in 35, and then 49, Dr. Moniz won the Nobel Prize for it. And so Dr. Freeman was the guy who did one. third of them. Yeah, he made it a 10-minute procedure. Nice. In and out. Nice. It's quick. Come in. You got an appointment at noon. Coming in at 11. I'll be there. I'll be there. Druling in the parking lot

at 1135. It's like a chiropractor. Just come in. We'll get the fast, you'll be at Chipotle in no time. I keep reading stories about people that get paralyzed forever because of chiropractors. Oh, really? There's been a ton of those stories. Do you ever go to them? You're a body guy. No, I don't go to them anymore. I went to them back in the day before I

read up on how chiropractors learned. You know when they say, I'm a doctor? They don't go to medical school for three seconds. That's why I hate all those arguments of authority. You're not a scientist. It's like, well, neither they kind of. It was invented by a magnetic healer who was a kook, who learned about it in a seance. He was a complete kook.

And then he was killed by his son. It was a con man. His son ran him over with a car. And then his son took over the business. And then it got grandfathered in. And then he won a Nobel piece. but he got grandfathered in so but here's the thing manipulating the body in a positive way like adjusting you has some benefits deep tissue massage has a lot of benefits like manipulating tissue

I get a trigger point massage really painful but it's very effective there's real benefits to it so there's things that chiropractors do that do have like a real beneficial effect on your body being able to recover but the claims at least in the beginning are nuts. The initial claims it's going to cure leukemia. Thyroid cancer just going to adjust your back

to a C4, C5 disconnection of a pop and then they grab you and yank your neck and sometimes people have fucking hemorrhages from these things because they violently yank your neck

and a blood vessel pops and you have a fucking stroke. And that's not happened just once. It's happened a bunch of times. I grew up playing video games too and watching all these action movies and I thought they just twist in a guy's head

Like, you know, like, you'd kill them? You think that's all it took, you know? Like, I snuck up behind that guy in the video game, and just that's all I did. Meanwhile, a chiropractors are doing that to you. All day. You ever seen him do it to babies? No. Oh, my God.

It's so crazy. People that are, like, full-on nuts have their babies brought to a chiropractor, and the chiropractor is adjusting the baby skull and moving the babies. I would not. You're like, yo! Your parental ideas of, like, they're all scrapped. Like, you're supposed to keep it safe the idea of handing it to a chiropractor. They believe it.

They believe it, and so they think they're doing a good thing. Jamie, am I allowed to ask Jamie to bring things up? Yeah, fuck you. Jamie, can you bring up some dog chiropractors? Have you seen this? I've seen it. And the dogs look at the chiropractor like, what did you just do? But also, I do feel a little bit better.

The dog's so sweet about it. Like, I think I'm good, actually. You got to get the right dog for that job. A lot of pit bulls because they're all strong and shit. And so, like, they'll just adjust it. Yeah. I've seen, like, montages of it, and it's pretty adorable. Why is he going to do this dog's neck?

Please don't. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. And look at the dog looking up at him. I don't think you need to do that to that dog. I don't think that's necessary. Watch this. Look the way it looks at him. But here's the thing, like, what studies are they showing where this is all good?

That's a Belgian Malamaw, bro. You can't hear it, but it goes. I don't want to hear it. I don't know if that does anything. I don't know if that's good. I think if you got your dog a massage, it would be really good for them. But I think all that snapping and the popping, Like, are you loosening it up and making it more mobile?

Well, if that's the case, you can do that with spinal decompression and massage. I have this thing that. I've been doing it as my friend's dogs, and they've been loving it. I put this thing on my neck. I'm like, don't do that. You're going to get a bitch? I put this thing on my head. It goes underneath my chin.

It's got like a rope. Oh, yeah. A hoop that hangs on my chin up bar. And I just... I've seen them advertise it because you use it. Oh, there you go. Look at this. He's giving his dog a back crack.

Oh, bro. That's the camel's clutch, dude. You're just lucky that dog is sweet. He's letting you do your nonsense. Dude, this guy. Dogs just love getting rubbed. That's all it is, yeah. That's all petting is.

It's kind of a massage, you know? That's what they love. They love massages. They love massages, too. Everybody does. We don't have to ask them about that. They like it. If we were like dogs, everybody would just lie down the floor and let people rub them.

Yeah, it'd be fine. You come over my house, dude, Marshall will lie down immediately and let you rub them. That's my favorite thing about dogs. He assumes you want to rub his belly. Yeah, dogs don't go, this guy's probably, yeah. Who do you vote for? No, dogs aren't ever, like, worried. My dog would go up to, like, a homeless, they don't care.

What's up homeless guy? Yeah, it's like, he loves them. Yeah, they're the best. We don't deserve them. But I don't think they should go to a chiropractor. But people that think that you should bring your doctor, it's because they believe in the chiropractors. There's a great article called Chiropractors are bullshit.

Pull that article up. The lady who wrote it was on the podcast, and I read the article, and then I had her explain it to me. Yeah. It was back in L.A. And I was like, oh, this is a nutty thing. I thought they were doctors. They thought they were actual doctors.

I went to one of those ones. It's called The Joint. And, you know, you can just, like, you can just walk in and they'll do it. And I think a lot of it for me was placebo. Like, I just thought, like, oh, they told me this is good for me, so I'm doing it. You know, I wasn't having pain or anything. Eve Detremant is the lady who was on the podcast that wrote this article. But it's crazy.

I like the title. It's a crazy story. Very direct. When you read the story of how it was invented, You're like, this is nuts. Because it's one of those things that's just grandfathered in. And if you're allowed to be doctor, like we should be doctors of comedy. Would you like to be Dr. Jeff?

Jeff, MD, dude. Yeah, I'm... Oh, wait, not MD. What were it to be? Well, you're giving people laughter, which is the best medicine. Sure. So I think we should get doctors of comedy. Maybe we should do that, like, at the mothership, just start handing out doctorates of comedy.

That's how you got past kind of. You get a headline, you do your first theater tour. I'll give you a doctor. I worked under Ron White, and then I got my... I mentored under Ron White. under Ron White. Exactly. Ron White was patient zero here.

Because Ron moved out here before the pandemic. Really? Yeah. He's the reason why I decided to move out here. Because, you know, Ron and I have been real close forever and knowing him from the comedy store. He was always like one of the coolest guys to hang out with. He's the best, dude.

He's the best. And so we were hanging out in the back bar and he was telling me he's moving to Texas. I go, what? What are you doing? You're here. Don't go. This is nuts. He's like, oh, it's the best.

He goes, I want to keep my house out here in Beverly. hills but this fucking place is the food's the best the people are nice if I want to fly I'm in the middle right it's three hours here three hours and I was like damn he's got a good point so when the shit started getting weird in L.A. and they were burning cop cars on the freeway that's when daddy was like those are the scary I got to get out of here you know because so I my kids are little you know 10 and 12 at the time the little ones and I was like this is dangerous and we all agreed like it just doesn't feel right I don't feel like they're going to open this up I think this is bullshit. Let's get the fuck

out of here. It's not like you're an actor. Exactly. Right. Exactly. I was like I'm flying but you weren't an actor. I wasn't interested in doing it anymore. And we were flying a lot of the guests out anyway and I was like I'll figure it out. I'll do Zoom calls. I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to live here. I want to live

my life. I'd be happy making less money and doing it somewhere else and maybe it's not as good. Have you thought about making other motherships? We did. We have. We've talked about it. Where? We talked about New York. We've talked about Vegas. What about Florida?

Here's the thing. To do it, I mean, this is just like based on what we've done in Austin, right? What we did in Austin is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where we hit every green light. Every green light along the way we got in the right spot. So, like, the only way this club happens, first of all, is I'm friends with Adam Eaget, and I've been friends with Adam Eaget from back when he was running the, improv in Tempe. So that's what I knew him. I knew him from back

then. And then he came to California and he started working at the comedy store when I had already been banned. So I had been banned that I had gone on my seven year exodus. And he came to meet me at the improv. They showed you, by the way. What? Comedy store banned. They really showed you. So he came to meet me at the improv. He's like,

dude, come back. I'm there now. I'm the talent coordinator. And I thought about it. And then I wound up coming back because of Ari. Because, you know, Ari Jafir is one of my closest friends, and he was filming his special there. And I had known Ari since he was a doorman. I knew him when he was a doorman there, and now he's filming a special. I'm like, I don't give a fuck.

I have to be there. I have to be there for him. And I went there a day before just so I could relax because it was weird because I hadn't been there in seven years. And, you know, it was super friendly, hugged everybody. It was great. And then I saw Ari and Ari killed. and the special was awesome and it was just such a

it was such a happy moment to see him like accomplish this thing going from being a doorman to having your own Comedy Central special while he was also doing a show on Comedy Central that's what he's doing

this is not happening yeah I was on that so it was like I had to come back so that was 2014 and becoming really good friends with Adam and knowing him from the improv like knowing him from back in the day

and then becoming friends with them when he was the count coordinator, we had talked about, like, what are the problems with running a club? Like, what is the problems with, like, people telling you, oh, you have to have more of this on your show or more of that on your show or you're problematic and people getting mad about this, mad about that. I'm like, it's got to be a meritocracy. As much as that bothers some people, the people that bothers, they're never good. David Tells never complaining about diversity. You know what I'm saying? It's like the people that are complaining, generally they're mediocre at best.

and he was like, you're right. I go, but you can't give into them because there's a lot of them and they yell and they make it seem like it's a big deal but the big deal is laughs doing good comedy having an original idea

being funny here's the world through my eyes this is how I've crafted it for you that's all it is everything else is a fucking distraction and we both agreed on that and so wouldn't the comedy store shut down

and then I moved out here there was like a long time where I was like I don't know what to do. Like, do I stop doing comedy now and just do this podcast? Like, no one's doing comedy. It was months and months and no comedy. And then Dave and I started doing shows at Stubbs. So Dave was like, I want to do a show at Stubbs. Let's do like a residency there. I'm like, fuck yeah, let's do it. So he and I did like, we had done a ton of shows, a bunch of arena shows before the pandemic together. And so the Stubbs thing came along and I was like, okay,

yeah, let's just do this. All right, we're doing this now. And I guess we're doing comedy again and then we started doing comedy at the Vulcan and the Vulcan is indoor and it's loud and it's rowdy and it was naughty like it was crazy you're doing a november 2020 indoor show punk rock and so when that was happening then everybody started moving here then everything then everything got weird and i was like whoa we got like tom sagura moved here duncan trussel moved here tony hinchcliff moved here brian simpson moved here was like whoa we got a crew here derrick post moved here. Asana Maude moved here. I'm like, we got a real crew here. And then it just kept escalating. Tim Dillon came. It was like over and over again, Joe DeRosa came, Shane Gillis

came. It was like, and so while all this was happening where all these guys were at least talking about moving there, like it feels better here, like the scene feels more alive. Because the L.A. was still shut down. And so then Ron White basically like grabbed me by the shoulders one night after he hadn't done stand-up in like six months and he grabs me he goes whatever the fuck we have to do we're going to keep doing this you got to open up a club i'm like we're open up a club let's go yeah let's do it and then that's how it all started but we had to hit every light like adam had to be out of a job all the people that we got from the comedy store that were great we brought over a bunch of people right they all had to be out of a job right so the comedy store had to

be closed otherwise why would you leave the comedy store it's the greatest place on earth yeah so then it was like everything else had to be closed down so the the comics knew that they could do stand-up in Texas. And so, like, well, let's just go to Texas. And it just, people decided I like doing stand-up more than I like living in L.A. Yeah. And then once they came out here, they're really, I think I like it out here better. It is.

It's amazing what we've got. Also, my favorite thing about the scene here is the mothership helps everything around as well. So I can't get over every time that I've been here. How inviting, how cool all the. young comics are. All these guys who would chew off their arm to get a spot at your club are here for it. And they're here at these other places. They're doing all these other things because they believe in what the mothership's doing. And there's all this other stuff. So it has the most buzz as far. Not buzz. That's a stupid word. It has the it has a feeling. It has like

this vibe. It has this aura. Whereas like that used to be in New York and that used to be in LA and I don't feel it in those places anymore. I'm actually lucky that I can go do the cellar and I can go do the stand and I can do those things I can go to the comedy store I can do the improv I'm at a place where they'll have me but there's not like a bunch of young guys doing small shows and excited at the idea of even going over to the store after their spots your club has that well there's a couple things it has an advantage of right one is kill tony that's the big advantage of there's a show that's Monday night that is the biggest live comedy show on planet earth and you might be able to get on it and if you've got a tight minute and you could

fucking kill they're gonna ask you back and if you got another type minute oh my god you might have a fucking career exactly you might have a fucking career and that's happened time and time again like cam patterson is on SNL right now yes sir and that came straight out of kill Tony 100% and you know and cam is super fucking talented but so is Hans Kim so is a lot of William Montgomery there's a lot of people coming out of there that they they have a real career now Ari Maddie has a real career now It's amazing. Casey Rockett. It's an amazing resource. 100%.

So that's the big one, is that there's a real pathway. And then there's also two nights of open mic night, two nights. So we make sure we have plenty of open mic night time. You get to do an open mic night at the best club in the world. And then on top of that, it's like the club is the only club that I know of that was designed not to make money. All I wanted to do is break even. I'm like, I just don't want to lose any money. You know, because it's so much money to make.

make a club and build it in the first place you have to buy a building you have to hire all these people to fix it and turn it's a lot of money invested i'm like i just want to lose a lot of money which is why a lot of owners have terrible reputations because they do all these corner cutting or they do like they're trying to fuck you yeah and so yeah but they're also desperate in a way like these guys they'll you know i i like club owners but there's a lot of crazy club owners and there they feel that pressure of like i got to keep this alive i don't want to keep losing money. I used to tell comics, be nice to club owners because you don't want to be one. You do not want to be one. And then I went and became one. But still. But you're doing it honorably.

I'm lucky that I have the other ways of making a living, right? Most club owners, they're club owner by definition. That's what they do for a job. This is not what I do for a job. This is just I do this for literally to make a comedy environment. So the club is set up so the comedians get most of the money. Because that's how it should be. It's great. People aren't coming to see drinks. Right. They're coming to see a guy do his art, a woman do her art on stage. So that person should get most of the money.

And that's how it should be. And it should be that way because it's the right way to do it and because it builds the art form. You have more people making money so they don't have to leave as much. They don't have to go out of town as much. They can stay in town and develop and work on new stuff. And there's all these satellite rooms. There's a sunset strip that's right down the street.

from us. You could walk there in three minutes. That's Red Bands Club. It's killing. Creek in the Cague is an awesome spot. That's where Gillis filmed his first YouTube special. He filmed it. It's amazing. It's a great club. That's another club we did a lot during the pandemic. And then you've got all these other clubs. Cap City's a great fucking club. That's just 20 minutes away.

There's a bunch of these satellite rooms all around this place that are killing it right now. Yeah. Because comedy is a fun thing to do. People love that. You know, and we can do it in a way where it's not connected to fucking Hollywood. It's not connected to movies. It's not connected to TV. It's an art form in and of itself that had been prostituted out for so long that people thought, like, the golden goose was be a late night talk show host.

That was the golden goose. A job that I wouldn't. There's no fucking way. If they doubled my money, I'd be like, I'm not doing that. I can't do it. It's not me. Right. And it's also not really stand up.

So many times people are like So do you want to like Are you doing this because of like you want to be a movie stars? I was like no I'm doing it because I love stand up comedy I just watch the starting five of It's called starting five on Netflix But they follow NBA players

And the annoying part is like their wives and girlfriends I think that's the annoying part Like I want to hear them talk about basketball Like the thing they love Right right right That inspires me because I look at the way I pursue comedy the way they pursue their basketball You know like their career

So anyways But what I was inspired I was like Kevin Durant who I thought I hated my whole life was awesome he just wants to play basketball like that's all it is for him he's like yeah I'm I just want to go out there and hoop and he keeps going to that thing of like man I don't want to have these arguments in barbershops about the greatest ever any of those things I he makes money but it's not about the money for him and it's not about the chicks those are all symptoms of what he pursues and I love that because I'm like yeah I just love the joke part yeah I love that I can write a bit

And then that night, try it, and people love it. Or they go, what an interesting idea. Or that's funny. Or that's naughty. I've never thought of it like that. You know, when you're campaigning on a political trail or whatever, like when you go to like the Trump rally or when I don't know what Kamala Harris called her thing, but those aren't undecided voters.

Those are people who are there because they're already in. You're not even talking to anyone who's considering voting for anyone else when you go to a thing like that. But with stand-up comedy, when they're on the, that audience, they're just looking at you and going, hey, bro, bring me some jokes. Yeah. And so I can now do jokes about what I think and what I believe, and the crowd will listen to me and decide if I'm not funny or funny. But you're getting into their ear, you're getting into them going, I've never thought

of it like that. That guy was making some pretty good jokes up there about a subject that I thought I wouldn't hear. You know, like, it's just like, I think comedy is such a gift that way. But I was like, I think I'm like Kevin O'Rant. I like the girls and I like the money And I like all I love all that stuff But for me

I did a spot here I can't remember what it was And they were like Do we can't thank you enough for coming And I was like what are you talking about? Like I get up on any fucking stage And he tried to slide me money I go give it to the other guys

Like I came to do this Because I was happy you to have me on Like I just couldn't That's a great attitude Yeah it's so much better To just tell jokes I don't need to be famous That would be a good symptom

That would be a great symptom of it But like It also comes with its own problems. All those other stuff, yeah, for sure. All the other stuff. But that's the best attitude is just love what you do. Love what you do and all the success comes because of it. But the moment you start thinking about the success only

and then making decisions based only on getting and entertaining more success instead of thinking about the thing. Yeah. And that's what they do. They seduce you. They go, want to be in this movie? Those are the hyenas like you were saying. The hyenas, they circle.

But I don't want to be an actor. and thank you for the opportunity. And I love that you believe you could make some money off me by putting me in that. But for me, walking my ass into a place that has a stage in a microphone and being able to be naughty and say anything I'd like and make jokes is so exciting to me. If they put a billion dollars in my bank account tomorrow, I'll still go do my spot tonight at the mothership and fat man. And if tomorrow they said, Jeff, you make zero dollars doing this.

You might want to find a day job. I'll go, okay, but I'm still doing my spot, right? Like, I'm still going to do it no matter what. Yeah. I just love it. Yeah, I would do it forever. It's the most fun art form. Yeah.

You know, and the fact that we're fortunate enough to be able to do it and make money doing it is incredible. You should be happy. Yeah. If you're fucking complaining, you're missing out. Oh, dude, I won't say this comic's name because, you know, I just don't want any trouble with this guy, but I remember I was at a festival,

and I'm more criticizing his attitude on that night. We're in the green room, and they were like so excited to have him because he's a very funny guy. very talented and they said um they go so how much time do you want to do he was like how much time am i contracted to do and they were like oh well you know you your books for 45 minutes but i was just letting you know you're the end of the show and everyone's here to see you so just do whatever you want he goes then i'm doing the 45 minutes and i remember thinking the fuck is wrong with you

like they're happy you're here everyone is excited yeah just if you tell me that bro i'm on stage for two hours. 45 minutes it's good but I'm gonna stay up there because I like being up there yeah it's fun boo

it's not you're not pouring concrete dude like you get to go tell jokes to these people like what an exciting job you have that's exciting I think where that comes from

is like in the beginning it's like really hard it's hard to do it's hard to get paid it's hard and then you build up a resentment to the point where even after you make it

you take it for granted and now you think like what do I have to do 45 minutes and that's what I'm doing crazy yeah you like instead of like wow I made it I can actually I can actually get paid to go do comedy now I could 45 minutes not important okay I'll go fuck around have some fun that's go have some fun exactly like that's so I've worked at Hollywood video I've worked at any coffee shop that was like I've had over like 40 different coffee jobs because I just couldn't keep a job like I was always living somewhere different or like pursuing comedy so aggressively that like I just needed a job so I was good at getting the job and then I would fuck off or do something stupid and I'd get like let go or I'd move and just ghost to that job you know I've had all

these jobs but whether it was Hollywood video or rock bottom brewery or whether it was any of these million coffee shops I worked at I was always the fun guy at the job that made friends with everyone and goofed off because it's more fun to have a good attitude at work and like the job than it is to hate the job right because because because the job was great but because because it's going to be a better experience here if I like it, if I at least trick myself into liking it. It wasn't my dream to put movies in alphabetical order with dyslexia at Hollywood video.

But I want to enjoy my job. That was more fun to be happy to be there. So now we get to do comedy, which is the dream, and you have that attitude? Like, I just can't get my mind around that. Well, there's some people that think they have to be miserable to be good. there's a weird thing that I think some artists feel like they have to kind of suffer

in order to be funny like they have to be upset they have to be angry I used to think that when I was when I was I was really young and dumb I was thinking that maybe like I should stop meditating

because if I meditate and achieve any kind of enlightenment I won't think I don't think things are so annoying anymore that I could shit on them on stage which is like a big point part of my act. Yeah, you didn't want to be happy because you would find, yeah, yeah, but that was me at 21 or whatever it was.

Yeah. Well, Jerry Seinfeld, who's one of my favorites ever, despite any of his political beliefs or any of those things, like I really, really respect every time Jerry Sanfield talks on podcasts or interviews or whatever, because he's like Buddha of comedy, like the way he talks about work ethic, the way he talks about joke writing, the way he's very disciplined, he's very good. So I always hang on everything Jerry says, like in those things. I think he's the best. Look up anytime he's been interviewed.

But Jerry, although he's clean, right, he's a clean comic, and although he's a husband and a dad, and no matter what he's labeled as, he seems to be very at peace in his life and very successful and rich, he does have this edge to him. There still is like an irritability. And I think that's probably what we're thinking at 21 of like, I need that, I need to be. Well, he's also smart and he's talking to morons all the time, and that's how you get an edge like that. Yeah. Probably doesn't have like a tight crew of cool people that he could just chill with. Sure. I agree.

You get alienated. You're worth a billion dollars from a sitcom. Right. But you also, you made a billion dollars from a sitcom you did in the 90s. Never have to work again for a day in your fucking life. You have a hundred porches. You're just collecting portions. You're bored as fuck. And then morons want to say, you all my favorite episode was. Like, I don't fucking care. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to hear this anymore. I'm sure you get that on the time. Someone wants to tell you a story about a thing and you go, I don't know. Well, I think I'm a little more tolerant than him.

Yeah. Yeah. But he's, I get it. I get why he would be a little prickly. Like some of the questions are really fucking stupid. Oh, for sure. There was a big racism controversy about his show. Right. Comedians in cars drinking coffee. Which is why I'm surprised he wasn't, he's not more vocal about that, but he did a great thing. Like, he's like, I don't care. Speak the language of funny. If you're funny. I don't care what you are, which is the right answer. And a lot of people like, oh, that sounds racist. It's a great answer. If that's racist, this is, you're expecting something that you're not going to get. get, which you're expecting people to abandon meritocracy, in the most meritocracy-based art form, you could think, like, you have to have a specific response from people. Right. You have to get a laugh.

Yeah. And you're creating it all yourself. Like, there's no talking. It's just you. Yeah, that's it. And so if it's comedians that you think are funny and they happen to be whatever, it's just who's funny. Because everything else is bullshit.

This ideal is not enough women. There's not enough black people. There's not enough. It's insane. Stop. Right. Stop. Yeah.

Let him do whatever the fuck you wants. What do you say to the people who criticize that you don't have enough people of color or blah, blah, blah? And then he goes, I don't know. I'm looking at your audience. A lot of whitey's in here. That's what he said. Oh, it's the best because it's like it's so true. So true.

Look at your friend groups. Look at your life. You know, fuck off. When you start running it through everyone's genitals and skin color, you could call every culture racist. Right. I went to my buddy's family barbecue who's. Polynesian, you know, he's a Pacific Islander guy.

One real diverse family reunion right? Because that's the beauty of a culture is that you kind of have, the whole point of having a culture is to have some advantages. I can't just wander into your family's thing and go, how come there's no more, there's not any Filipinos here. That's not how it works.

I would say that, I think I've said it a couple of times on stage, but I wonder if like liberals go to like Japan and they're like, this is disgusting. You know, it's all Japanese people here. It's not very diverse. I wonder. Do they go to Russia? Oh my gosh. Where's the diversity here? Like that's not how things

work. No, there's a lot of countries that aren't diverse at all. And it's fine as long as they're black. You know what I mean? If it's like all black, it's totally fine. But all like Poland's a problem. That's a real problem. Yeah, it's insane to me. Yeah. Well, it's people are just weird. You know, and look, racism is bad.

So because racism is, because actual racism is bad, people look racism all sorts of places and then they start deciding that things are racist or you know they could do with a lot of stuff like you know we were talking about this the other day this idea silence is violence like shut the fuck up that's crazy nobody ever punched you then yeah i'll show you some violence yeah then you'll go hey can we go back to the uh silence come to the ufc with me i'll show you what like this is see that's what violence is yeah this is way worse and this is a sport of it these are nice people like that's actual violence not fucking words it's definitely not silence

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. And then they start using sticks and stones. You go, let's go back to names. I'm happy with names. There was less blood when you were calling me names. Yeah, you're being silly. Silence is not violence, you fucking idiot. That's so dumb.

Silence is just silence. It's pretty nice. But it shows what you want is what you want force people to comply. You want it to force people to say what you want them to say. Right. Put that black square on your Instagram. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and it's a bunch of losers. It's usually a bunch of losers at the wheel that bus. Yeah. And they're going right off the cliff and they want to bring you with him. Like, what are you doing? Not a fun place. Not fun. Yeah, don't like it.

That's not the world we live in. Yeah. Or it's not the universe that comics like to live in at all. That's the other thing about all these people pushing all these different things to call everybody an is or whatever the fuck you are. And you have a phobia, whatever it is. All these people seem to be miserable. Yeah. Yeah, they don't seem very happy

And they're proud of their anger Which is odd Yeah It's like find some things to love Okay, there's a lot to love in this world Comic went on and killed Tony last night He was so great And I am remiss that I don't remember his name

And he was able to rattle off Which I'm sure he's done before It's probably in his act But he was able to rattle off all his interests He's like, oh I'm in Universal Studios, let's go Monster Truck Rally, let's do it And I was like

I immediately wanted to be friends with this guy Because I'm like that's how I want to live I live or I mean I do live like that and I was like dude I can identify with this so much the little kid in me is like yeah whatever it is let's go I go to the gay pride parade I've got a lot of gay friends let's fucking do it like like whatever it is right that's so much better of an attitude right just like let's let's do it all let's let's jump in these things like that's so much more fun than going we're not going there because of this and we're not doing that because of this and this is probably it's like it's too exhausting well a lot of people like being

exhausted because it keeps them active. They've got something to think about. It's their sports. Yeah, it is. You know? Politics for a lot of people is their sport. And it's not just their sports. It's like their fanatical Red Sox fans. It's the religion. Yeah. Yeah. It's Red Sox to the death. And that's what it is. Like, fuck the Yankees.

It's all it is, man. It's the same thing. So the sports one is where I think is a little different because the Yankees fan doesn't want to murder the Red Sox fan. We both still like baseball. They break people's legs in Philly. Yeah, sometimes, you know. But I'm saying, they still like baseball they can still agree

oh we're at the ballpark you know we're having a hot dog and it's like fuck you and you're like fuck you and it's fun you know it's fun but like the people that claim they hate religion the most are acting their politics out like religious zealots

they're going well this is I wouldn't even tell Jimmy Kimmel's wife I can't even talk to them anymore I don't think she said that I think she's having a hard time talking to them I might be I've watched it a bunch but so what happened was she said

that she was always struggling with it since Trump's been in office. But now she doesn't even want to be with these people because it's personal to her. That now she's made the decision to not... And it's like that's where it's a problem. Struggling with it, it's fine. Family runies want to have a talk with your aunt

who voted for Trump or something. I think that's healthy. And let's talk about it. Because if you're doing any of these things and you can't defend it, you're probably pretty stupid. But when you start going, I won't even be associated with that person because of whatever it is. That's a problem. Well, it doesn't seem smart. Yeah. It doesn't seem

healthy, you know, if you don't have any room for disagreement. But it's also like the thing between Kimmel and Trump is so dumb. It's very dumb. It's so dumb. I can't believe. Like, and then he went after, um, what's, he went after Jimmy Fallin and Seth Myers as well, right? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. That's crazy. I know. That's so dumb. I don't understand. And I guess no one is around to tell him that. He must be in a bubble. He's 100% in a bubble. But that's also the way he's behaved his whole life.

Like, that's how he would attack you if he was on the apprentice. You know, I was supposed to do the celebrity apprentice. I was supposed to do it too, but way after it was good. I was supposed to do it with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Well, I was supposed to do it with him. With Trump? Yes. Okay.

It was when Fear Factor was returning to NBC. They asked me to do Celebrity Apprentice, and I thought about it. But my kids were really young at the time. I didn't want to live in New York. And I was like, how long is it take? It takes forever. And then also like, that guy's going to be mean to me. And I'm going to be like, fuck, you know, it's not fun.

Like, that's not going to be fun. Like, I'm not good with that. You know, I'll get real. I wonder what your political opinion would be of Trump if you had done Celebrity Apprentice. Hmm. Interesting. I think he always had an understanding of, like, how the whole political process worked. Like, there's an interesting interview of him way back in the day.

I think he was talking to. Barbara Walters maybe was a really old interview where he was talking about maybe one day running for president and this was back when he was a Democrat yeah he was a Democrat for a long portion of his life

and you know I think Elon said it best he's a product of his time you know and that's the thing this is an almost 80 year old man who's a real estate guy who likes to see his name in big gold letters loves America because that's what he's always liked. You're like, I like my name, big gold letters. Like, everything's big and gold.

That's what he genuinely likes. Which if people knew that about him, they would give him a little more grace when he says crazy things. Because, like, if you read his book, like, there was a part where he was like, he's like, okay, do you think he really wrote the book? Oh, no, but I think, I don't think anyone does. Dennis Rodman did write his book, you know, he just had a guy follow him. Some people write their own book for sure. But not the majority. Yeah. Or actually, that's not true. The majority of people write their own books, the majority of celebrities have someone follow them and talk to them in coffee shops and type it up yeah but he was he was like talking about he's like this building's the biggest in new york it's the best and they're like

it's not even the biggest building in this and he goes you know what i mean like it's kind of like yeah and if you know that then you kind of like give him a little more grace when he's just saying it's just kind of how he is he's this i'm the best you know it doesn't mean he's really the best it means he's got an attitude of the best you saw the bbc thing right uh what thing You didn't see this thing where BBC got in trouble for editing his speech. We talked about it yesterday. I'll just tell you real briefly. So they took a segment of him saying something and then spliced in a segment of him saying something else from 53 minutes later.

Right, the Storming the Capitol. Yes. Right, from the January 6th. Crazy. Yeah, which is not journalism. Like that is not journalism, but like full on lying and propaganda and it's kind of fucking dangerous. And those are the things. people watch.

That's what I was saying that shortened bullshit. Yes, but these people lost their jobs because of it. It's a big deal. Yeah, and not only that, but they're getting hounded by reporters and they're asking them

and the answers that they have for why they did what they did is like crazy. They felt, it seems like these people, this is just my opinion, seems like these people felt justified for completely lying because it would lead to an ultimate good.

So they lost all journalistic integrity. And it is the BBC, which is like the height of journalistic integrity. If that doesn't show the rot of mainstream corporate controlled media, then nothing does. Right. Because that's pure rot. If at the top of the heap, you got like in my mind, if like somebody said something to me and they quoted a source and it was the BBC, I was like, okay, that's like Washington Post. That's like New York Times. It's a very official source. So I'm thinking this must be real. And they turned it into activism. And they turned it into lying. And they did it in front of everybody where you could clearly just listen to the whole thing and no, he didn't say that. That's not how he said it at all.

Yeah. And I think, I'm sorry that I keep harping on this, but that's what AOC or kind of the left I see most guilty of doing is in their brain. They go, I know that this is a little like whatever, but it's for our greater good. So they're doing that with their own thing. Listen, I don't, I'm smart enough to know that Charlie Kirk was trying to make a point about blank. But if I twist this a little, it's for the greater good of what I'm trying to do here. And so they justify it to themselves. They say, oh, well, now I know that I might have been a little politician-y here.

Right. But it's for a greater good. And it's vague. And it's like, listen, look, he hates black people. That's why Obama disappointed me so much during the Kamala Harris campaign, because he did that thing where he said, you know, that he said that white nationalists are very fine people. Yeah. He said we have very fine people on both sides. And do you hear the actual quote and the difference between what they're saying he said and what he said was the exact opposite?

Right. And I'm not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists. He's like, I forget the exact wordage he used. they should be condemned whatever he said but along those lines specifically said not those people

I'm talking about people that just didn't want these statues torn down that there's very fine people on both sides some people just like go yeah Robert Lee is a really bad guy

but it's like this is a part of history it is yeah yeah this is like this is just reality yeah but that

using that during Kamala Harris's campaign I was like that's great you know what he said yeah You must know. They cut it up.

But why would you sacrifice what's so valuable is, like, your stature and your integrity? Why would you sacrifice that for someone who just probably wasn't going to win anyway? Right. I mean, I don't know if it's money or if it's some sort of oath or if it's intentional, whatever, but, like, that stuff's so dangerous. I really like that shortening of, like, what someone said, taking it out of context. I think there's also the consequences of people going to trial for that rushing. stuff because I think that that Russiagate collusion hoax that they perpetrated on mainstream media for years.

And a lot of people are really uncomfortable with even saying it was a hoax. Now, it was a hoax, ladies and gentlemen. It was a hoax, and a lot of people coordinated that hoax. And there was a lot of people involved. And I think they're super sketched out about Trump being president again and possibly digging into that stuff. And he's doing that now. Yeah. And you're finding real evidence. that the people that you would think, the intelligence agency, you would think, what are they here for?

They're here to make America safe and protect us from problems. But it seems like they also metal. Yeah. And not just metal, but like completely try to sabotage someone and paint them out in a way that's completely inaccurate, knowingly, willingly, with taxpayer dollars funding it all. For the greater good. For their greater good. Bro, I might say very fine people, too, if I was doing that camera. Whatever he's a fucking Nazi.

Let's not... He's Hitler. Let's say whatever the fuck. Keep him out of office. I think that's what happened with the... In a way, that's kind of what happened with, like, the Epstein list thing. I think, like, the reason you're never going to see that is because there's just too many powerful people that are in that, that are on both sides. It would kind of be a, not a collapse, but, like, a social kind of, like, collapse of, like...

Not just that. Both sides. I mean, I don't think there's, like, that you're not going to find all liberals went to this island. You're not going to find all conservatives went to this island. You're going to see a list of some of very powerful creeps on everything. So it's like both this like stalemate of the right and the left going, maybe we just won't do this. But it's not just that. It's this ball of yarn of what did they do with the information?

What did they do if they did compromise you? And they did fly you out to an island. You did have sex with underage girls. What did you do then when you were confronted by the fact that they know this? Right. What did you do? Like what decisions were made? What foreign policy decisions were made? What financial decisions were made? What money got donated? How much money transferred back and forth to different accounts because of things that happened there? How many huge international decisions were made by people in powerful positions because someone has a video of them doing something very compromising on an island? That's why I'm glad that I mean, I might be very rich or anything, but like if something, you know, if they try to figure out something on me, this is, this would be their research. They'd be like, all right, we found. Jeff died. He likes a sprite, you know. But he also watches pro, they'd have nothing. They would just be searching.

But you're not a guy who's trying to run the world. Yeah. The thing is, everybody who wants to run the world, everybody wants to be the president. They're all fucking crazy. They've all done weird shit. They're fucking crazy. And then they get into a position where they have like ultimate power and they're putting fucking masks on and fucking each other. And I mean, that's skull and bone stuff.

It's crazy stuff to me. Yeah. There's always been these weird secret societies of people that get really wealthy and they do kooky things and they wife swap. Yeah. It's very strange. People lose her fucking minds with any kind of power. And you've got the kind of power where you're literally like running the government. You're literally running the whole government.

want to do bad stuff like it's crazy like it's like I guess my brain's too simple you don't want to run the government I know but if I just I think to myself I'm like it's crazy that there's this much shit on all these powerful people like it's crazy it's not crazy though because you think like what is their pursuit it's like very bizarre pursuit because either they really are for the people and they really want to make the world a better place then you're not going to get anything on them because then they're Bernie Sanders right you got nothing yeah they just you got nothing he you know he might not be effective but you know you don't have anything on him. That's it. He's not going to compromise. He doesn't have to. You got nothing on

him. Or you got someone who wants to be a leader for some strange reason, and they're really not that extraordinary, but they're in a really shallow pool of talent. Because that's the real truth about running for president or running for governor or running for mayor is it's a fucking shallow pool of talent. Because most people that have any kind of fucking talent talking don't want that job. Why would I want that job? Why would I want people to fucking shoot at me? Why would I want half the country to fucking hate me no matter what I do? Why would I want to get in and find out that this intertwined web of fucking money and power and influence is no way to fix it? And I'm just going to sit here for four years being a bad guy in a stupid White House.

Like, fuck that. Because you took a photo with something on it. So the people that want that are all out of their fucking minds. And they're all cooks. They're all Gavin Newsoms. They're all Kamala Harris's and Donald Trumps. And they're all kooky people. you know and some of these kooky people will do a better job than other kooky people but only kooky people want the job and until that changes and until not just kooky people want the job non non kooky people want the job being president but non kooky people involved in congress in the senate and everything regular rational people that can have real conversations and not try to diminish whoever you're talking to and everything the most reductionist way possible

Make them out to be a moron because they're on the other side. Actual solving of problems without you doing it at the behest of these massive corporations that have been donating to you. So you have to bullshit your way and gaslight people and you can't be honest about your real opinions. That's the real fucking problem with that whole system. It is absolutely contaminated by both money and the promise of money in the future if you play ball. That's where it gets real weird. They leave government jobs and start. working for pharmaceutical drug companies that they were regulating to 16 months ago.

It's like X. It's like X or like Twitter, you know. It's like nobody's on there to go, oh, I'm going to like try and find some people's ideas. It's all like debate culture. Like you could put the most simple thing and you have 700 people who just want to go, like the goal is to debate and argue and get into like win and dunk on your opponent and make someone say, There's not like nobody like you said in the beginning is like nobody's trying to just go I think I really want to make it fair

No, no one's saying that No what's even more fun is blue sky you ever go to blue sky If you make an account even in your name you say Jeff die I bet you'll be banned I will bet you'll be banned within 20 minutes Yes you're problematic you're a toxic white male What is your heterosexual? You're a cisgendered male That's um which is what yeah we already had I don't know what I We don't need to add that.

I don't, I'm not doing it. I thought I got to choose my pronouns. Why do they get to put cyst on me? Siss on me. But if you go there, I saw this one conversation where someone said, they were talking about something saying, I'm trying to be Zen about it. And then the next person said, try not to be racist against Asian people. From saying is that? Yeah, that's insane.

I mean, that's crazy. It's whack-a-mole. Yeah. They're just sitting there ready to whack. They're just ready for someone to pop up with any micro-exam. aggressions, any diversions from the narrative. It's so exhausting. I've never heard of this.

It's like a liberal kind of like Facebook or something. Most people bailed on it. So a lot of people like Stephen King said, I'm going over to a blue sky. They all decided to go over to Blue Sky because Trump let them say whatever they want on Twitter and they just didn't like the reality of the world. Right. And so they're like, this is bullshit. I'm leaving.

And they all come back. They all come back to Twitter because X is more fun. Exactly. It's nuts, but it's way more fun. than everybody just calling you racist for everything you do. I do think that's the current problem with the world. I know that's very vague, but like people just want to win the talk. Nobody wants to have the talk.

Right. So it's more about like, well, here's what, you haven't thought about this. Like, it's like, why are you talking at anyone like that? Right. Like, hear them out. And then they also have the, give them the luxury of being wrong. It's okay to be wrong. I'm wrong all the time.

But like, like, the only way I can be right is if I say the wrong thing and I learn or, you know, that's, that's, we should be having conversations, not arguments. But the thing is now you attach that to politics and you literally have to win the arguments because that's what the whole game is. The whole game is like get up in front of all those people and state your claim and diminish the claim of your opponent. And that's, it's stupid. Yeah. But they have to do it because they have to get elected because if they don't get elected, then they don't have power. And if they don't have, and once they get into power, then they have. have to use that power for their constituents and for the people that help them get into power.

So there's a bunch of fucking needs of these. And there's a bill you want to put this in the bill because it's going to help the oil sector. Right. And the bill is going to help chips. And so, of course, you're going to put a mask on and go fuck a guy. You're crazy. You're doing a crazy job. You're doing ecstasy.

You're hanging out with all these people that are running the world. Of course, you're sucking dick with a VHS camera somewhere. That's why I'm walking around town with a leather mask being walked by my boyfriend. They can't take it anymore. They're living an insane life where they're producing no value. So there's nothing they're doing where unless they're real. Like that's when I think about Bernie Sanders. Love them or hate him.

That's a real guy. And he has real beliefs. And he's been steadfast about these real beliefs from the beginning of his career. There's a photo of him that we showed on the podcast of him getting arrested at a civil rights protest. in the 1960s, I think it was. He's always been that guy. That's who he is. Which is great.

Yeah. And if you're not that, then what are you doing? You're trying to just get ahead. You're trying to win. You're trying to gaslight the best. You're trying to make your way through this weird game where you can be a senator or you could be a governor. And then maybe you could be the president.

You have the eyes on the throne. First thing I'm going to do is take that tacky fucking gold leaf off the wall. Trump put gold leaf everywhere He likes gold What's wrong with gold? It looks better About his home decor It's the White House There was people complaining

He made the White House look tacky It looks beautiful Yeah Well also who cares You don't live there I don't give a shit Well they just don't want him doing that They don't want him

Didn't he do it with his own money and stuff I mean they've always done that I didn't Taft put a fuck He invented the hot tub on accident Because he was like That tub won't fit me I'm too fat Oh really?

Yeah and then forever People will go Oh yeah it didn't Taft Even that big fat guy got stuck in a tub And it's not true He was just a big guy Made a funny joke And for now

Now all these young people are like Oh yeah Taft The big fat guy They got stuck in a tub It's not true He accidentally made a He just made a A modification to the White House

And it basically invented a hot tub People are also upset That he's making a ballroom You see he's making this giant ballroom It's all right It doesn't bother me And he found out you're allowed to Yeah

And then he goes He goes What's the deal? with permits. They're like, you don't have to get any permits. You're the president. You can just build it. He's like, amazing. As a real estate guy, he's like, that's fucking great. For a guy like that, it's like, you just gave him the coolest fucking present ever. He can make a beautiful, beautiful ballroom. And people are so mad. And they were saying that it was a waste of taxpayer money, but it turns out it's not. It's not all donations. I think, you can look

this up, but I think Obama spent like $350 million of taxpayer money making modifications to the White House. I think that's true too. And like, did you? No one cared. And I don't care about that either. I'm not using that as a what about. I'm saying I also don't care that Obama did it. I don't give a shit. Can I get a receipt? Right. $350 million? What did you do? Like, what cost $350 million to a house that's already standing? Can you imagine it if you're a construction guy, it gave you a bill like that? Like, yeah, I just want to fix it up nice and let's do all this and then send me a bill. And you get a bill, it's $350 million. You're like, hey, I need to talk to the foreman here.

Here's the thing about the White House. It's not that big. Right. It's not that big, dude. There's some pretty beautiful houses for 1.5. That's a whole house. A whole house. Yeah.

$350 million is so much money. Did you make another house underneath the house? What happened? How did that happen? Is there a tunnel to a giant arena that's under the ground? Maybe the guy gets $500 grand an hour to do the construction or something, because I don't understand. Because he's doing it at the White House. He needs to get paid more.

It's like weddings. You know, they're like, I'd like to buy a cake. And they go, sure, $40. And he goes, for my wedding, $5,000. They just changed the price. You what? I needed a bunch of flowers. You gave me a great rate.

But then the second it's for wedding, those flowers are now like this crazy price. Maybe that's what the White House prices. Yeah. Because they know it's taxpayer money. But $350 million seems like real excessive. I'd like to know what they did. Didn't one of the, was it Nixon or somebody made like a bowling alley in there? Nice.

Yeah. That's a cool thing to be able to put in there. Is that what they do? Like you're allowed to just. you're going to be there for four years. Put a bowling alley in. I think you get to, I don't know if that's true, but somebody put a bowling alley in over a pool or something I read. But also, I didn't care. I just go, sure. If I was president, it'd probably make some adjustments. Do you see Biden's photo down and put a picture of the autopin up? Oh, I did see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know if it was real. I have a real struggle with, like, what I see is real or not. It might not be real. Let's find out if it is real. I think it is real, though. I think that's what I heard.

Obama's era project covered renovations. Trump knocked down a whole win. 376 million dollars cost to improve the East and West Wing's infrastructure. Peck described the project as largely underground utility work. Doesn't do a whole lot of good to have a building that's sort of an image of the free world standing up there and not functioning well. Peck told CNN when questioned about the cost. Bloomberg News reported in 2010 the Obama renovation was, the biggest White House upgrade since President Harry Truman was in office.

48 to 52, Truman oversaw the White House historic gutting, renovation and expansion in response to significant structural issues that at one point resulted in the leg of his daughter piano breaking through the floor. Trump's project with the first major exterior change of the White House in 83 years, historic preservationists say. You know, I read that and I just said, oh my God, because the leg of his daughter, and then it's the leg of his daughter's piano. I read it, too.

I was like, oh, no. Just the piano broke. Yeah, that was very deceptive in the way they typed that. Just the piano leg. Yeah. I thought it was his daughter's leg. Piano went through the floor. One of the piano legs went through the, not the daughter.

The daughter's legs, fine. Why do you bring her up? You're freaking me out. She's not in this story. I thought a kid broke her leg. I was panicking. It's just a fucking stupid piano. But that building's not that big.

So I guess that makes more sense, though. They had to do, like, crazy underground infrastructure shit that probably I would wonder what's under the White House. Heating, cooling, and fire alarm systems that hadn't been updated since 1902 or 1934. Still, I'd like to see a receipt. Also, I'm feeling ripped off if that's my house. I used to always say I don't think that any president ever is at the White House. Or they go to the White House, but they don't live there.

Yeah, they do. You think that they live there? They do. They have a residency. Well, I think there's like a tunnel to a different place. There's another building. They live in that building. Because why would you want to put the most powerful person in America in the most famous address in America?

Why are you giving people ideas? Well, it's a secret service. You know, we keep them secret. Don't give them ideas. It is weird because you know where he sleeps all the time. Right, that's crazy. You have more security in anonymity than knowing where someone powerful is. Like, that's crazy.

Even no matter how much security you have, the secret is the best part of it. That's why secret service is good. You want a secret address. You want a secret home. You want to move them around. Yeah. Don't have them in the same spot every night. I think the White House is called the famous, the most famous address in America.

Like, they say it's the most famous address. It is the most famous. So why would you put someone so powerful in the most famous? Like, I just think that, like, even when I was like in high school, I was like, I bet that they, I'd like to think that we're not keeping the president in a place that everyone knows about. Yeah. But they do. Hopefully no one's listening to this and you gave him an idea I hope not either

Violence is bad That's the point Do you remember back in the Obama administration when that crazy person broke into the White House Yeah got pretty far Did you have a bit about it? Yeah A bit about it There was a lady guarding the door without a gun Yeah what are we doing

Think that is crazy That's so crazy Your bit might have given someone some ideas like I could get pretty far Bro that guy got all the way in If it wasn't for a off-duty secret service guy who saw that guy running through the fucking White House and he tackled him. He just happened to be there. He wasn't even on duty. What did they think just like, well, no one's, no one's going to break. Yeah, like, who would do that? We're fine. That's crazy. Yeah, it's so crazy. The people

that have never been around crazy people, they don't know why lobotomies were done in the first place. That's true. Back then people were like, enough of Mike. Right. We got a slow Mike down. It's crack. Or you see like, you work at like a homeless place and you go, Oh, I kind of get it. Right. Yeah, you go, yeah, you could kind of go, oh, these people, I don't know. I don't know. You know, they've done so much stuff and drugs and traumas and all this.

And you just kind of go, I could see how in the olden times they would go, these people are broken. Let's, you know. Especially if they're not medicated. Like there's out and out, like, hardcore mental illness involved in most of the homelessness, a large percentage of it at least. Yeah, which is a controversial statement. But it's 100% true. Well, the mental illness leads to drug addiction, drug addition, self-medicating, you know, it's a lot of trauma, a lot of things, a lot of factors. But the answer to that isn't just let them camp.

Right. Let them be in front of your house whacking off, shouting bomb threads. Like, that's not, ignoring it isn't the solution. Yeah, not talking about it is not the solution. Yeah, I don't think lobotomies is the way to go, but I don't know. I just meant like in the 30s they would see that and go, you know, let's pull. Put this guy in a room. Well, in the 30s, I've had people in the, there was a bunch of people that were in shanty towns in New York City back during the Depression.

Oh, yeah. The Depression was so bad that New York City had, like, you know, like these little handmade houses, like, that people had built. You ever seen any of that stuff? See if you can find shanty towns from New York City from the Great Depression. Yeah, man, it must have been so dangerous. I mean, it's basically homeless encampments in the middle of Central Park. and there's no jobs, man. There's no jobs and there's no fucking food.

Not wild? Isn't that crazy, man? Imagine living out there how dangerous that would be? That's downtown Denver right there. And that's all because of the motherfucking bankers. That's all because of the bankers. They crashed the stock market. That's crazy.

I was just hearing something really crazy where someone was making a connection between Rockefeller and alcohol being during prohibition, that one of the competing fuel sources back then was ethanol. I don't even know if this is true. But that Rockefeller had control of oil and they were using oil to make pharmaceutical drugs. So like most of the drugs that people buy,

the reason why they started doing it that way is because, Rockefeller because he had control of the oil and this was saying that he wanted to stop them people from using ethanol so he wanted he thought the best way to do that was to make it so that no one could have the ability to produce alcohol and the best way to do that is to make a prohibition about alcohol but really sounds crazy it says it's a myth computer fuel source let's see why they say it's a myth john d rockefeller is often blamed for using prohibition to eliminate ethanol as a competing fuel source to gasoline from his standard oil business. But this is a myth.

Rockefeller supported the temperance movement primarily for religious and social reasons. Okay, that's the excuse that's publicly stated that he supported alcohol prohibition for religious and social reasons, believing alcohol consumption was harmful and aiming for a more productive workforce. So this is the problem of this, this is not quotes. This is like someone saying why this guy supported banning. alcohol and not, yes, he did work to ban alcohol, and yes, he did benefit from it because ethanol was taken out.

That is true. So ethanol as a fuel was not banned, it's saying. Explicitly allowing, even promoted the use of high proof alcohol for scientific research, fuel, or other lawful industries during prohibition, ethanol as a fuel, was not banned. In fact, some industrialists, including Rockefeller dabbled in ethanol fuel production. Henry Ford also pursued ethanol fuel development during this time. Okay, so I take back what I said. So it's not that it was banned.

So that doesn't make any sense then. It would make sense if somehow or another. Could you, if you were using ethanol, though, the thing is, like, if you stop people from making their own alcohol, if you make it illegal to make your own alcohol, you definitely can't make your own fuel. and then you can't use ethanol because you can actually make ethanol with corn. That's how they make it. So I could see how you would say

if you wanted to sell more gasoline, you would make it so people can't make their own fermentation and you can't make your own alcohol. And one of the best ways to stop people from making their own alcohol would be the prohibition of alcohol. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Like it doesn't seem that clean to me. That looks like a little squirrely. Like he supported a prohibition of alcohol because of morals, but yet he was, like, really involved in a lot of shady shit that seemed like he was very control-oriented. Those religious beliefs were sidelined. Yeah, man. It also, he had a part in the structuring and the education system to make people good little

factory workers. Yeah. Get them up early. Get them to school quickly before the parents can, like, give them any sense of how the world really works. And then brainwash him. Bring him in here. Get him in there and make good workers out of him.

He was a big part of that as well. Like, that guy had a lot of power. Yeah, that's, he'd have been an interesting guy in politics. So it's not true that he, that ethanol, that they prohibited it. But it is true that they kind of eliminated people making their own alcohol. And if you're not, if people aren't like making engines from ethanol because most people are using gasoline at the time, it seems like they don't have the materials. Yeah, it would be a good way to stop people from making their own gas and then you'll sell more gas.

I tried to buy something recently because I had like a chest cough and they're like you should get this shit and then I went to the riotate or whatever it was and they're like oh that's behind the counter so go up and ask her for she needs my ID she beeps my ID and I go why she goes oh because enough of this you could make meth and I go really she goes yeah so we have to like sure that the person like that it's kind of document who bought it and how much suit of that right yeah I think that yeah something like that and then I was like oh shit and I need a 700 of these you know but like I didn't even That's how guys were making meth. They got to regulate all that kind of stuff. You imagine how bad that meth was. You get some assholes that go to the grocery store and just clean up the pharmaceutical aisle. That's the sad part about addiction, man. You'll see like these homeless guys drinking mouthwash. You're like, how bad is it got that you're just like chug and listerine, like in an alley to get drunk?

Like that's, I mean, that's a, that's... What if it's a really good buzz? I mean, I guarantee it's a good buzz. Like, and your breath's great You imagine a listerine buzz Ugh Imagine a listerine buzz I mean sometimes I have tequila

I don't drink anymore But sometimes I would have tequila And that felt like mouthwash You know you have like a shitty cheap tequila And you go Do you know a large percentage Tequila apparently is fake It's not made with agave

Really? Yeah there was a big scandal See if you can find anything on that But it still got people drunk Oh yeah Yeah yeah But I think the scandal was that people were saying that it was like real tequila,

like legit tequila made from agave. But it wasn't. It was like fucking some shitty alcohol. Yeah. Some nonsense. They got it's counts. It's tequila. I know, but I mean, I guess scammers probably thought,

like if they were scammers, so who knows who's doing it along the way? Maybe it's the manufacturer, maybe it's the original person, who knows. But they didn't think someone was going to check. Yeah, it's kind of strange. I think about all those kind of things. I remember when they were doing this big campaign,

they're like, McDonald's uses real beef now. I'm like, what were they using? Like, what do you mean? Like, if the tequila company would now market, like, no, this is now real tequila, you'd be like, what were we drinking? This is a proposed class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York. Goes on to allege that both brands fail to meet the regulatory requirements to label themselves as 100% agave in Mexico and the United States, even though they carry that distinction on their labels. So what are these brands?

Click on that link where it says those brands. Oh, Casamigos and Don Julio Top shelf. Significant amounts of non-agave alcohol despite being labeled as 100% agave. Customers named a suit claim that they purchased the products under the assumption that tequilas were made exclusively from Blue Weber Agave and paid prices reflective of that premium designation.

Somebody was cutting the products, son. Yeah. That's how it goes, and no one's paying attention for too long. Over it, over and over and over. And those are big ones. Those are, like, I didn't expect it to be something I've heard of. But here's the question. Who did it, right?

You got to follow that web to go, okay, where did that money come from? Is it that guy? Is it like a manufacturer? Is it someone who's in the plant? Is it someone, are they skimping? Are they ripping them off? Like, what? Who did it?

Yeah. Who did it? You know? I mean, if you're an asshole and you're running the distillery and you're like, fuck those don't who you know people. We have to. And you're like, I know how to make it better. I can make more money, and then they skims.

We're going to need $100,000. It only tossed 40. Greedy, greedy. Yeah, who knows? Who knows? It's probably a tangled web of scumbags that were using the company to make money. When I first worked at Giggles Comedy Club, the owner, like, we didn't really have a green room. We're just kind of in the back where all, like, the soda tubes are going from the boxes of syrup and all the bottles of alcohol back there.

and he had one bottle of every kind of like top shelf liquor but he would just pour shitty liquor in there like with funnels like totally against the law just like funneling like the cheapest tequila he could get in like the finest tequila bottle and then when people would constantly bring it back like this taste wrong he goes you saw me pour it from the bottle and they're like yeah I guess I don't know like what but I watched him do that so many times that's hilarious yeah because he could charge like this you know crazy amount and they just get the shittiest cheapest tequila from like Costco or wherever the

heck. That's so gross. I know. That's so gross. How many people do that? All over the world. There's a lot of that going on. There was a great documentary about that. It's called sour grapes. And it's all about these wine guys that got duped. They were buying this wine. It was like Thomas Jefferson's wine. Some dude was making it.

Some dude in Century City was like making the labels old. Yeah, putting over the bottle. Put dirt on them and shit. Yeah, he was totally doing that. And he was mixing a bunch of cheap wine to try to come up with this flavor. People are so weird. Like it's always this, was it a big wine guy? Oh, yeah, man. Oh, really?

Oh, dude, this is how he fucked up. He ripped off the Coke brothers. Too big. Like, yeah. And they bought some old ass like Thomas Jefferson wine and it wasn't real. And then they also had some magnums from a company that never made magnums during that era. And this actual wine guy saw their sex. and sort of put, what is this?

And he says, that's a this and that. He goes, no, no, no, they don't do that. This is not from that. This is fake. And he was like, what? And so then they have a lot of resources, obviously. So they're like, release the house. And then they, you know, they caught him.

They get enough evidence that they can raid this guy's house. And so when they raid this guy's house, they find, like, a whole manufacturing thing. He's got dirt and water. He's rubbing it on the labels. He's like making the labels old and shit. It's hilarious. He's reusing old labels from, wine that he had bought somewhere else

and recorking it and sealing it oh, it's a total scumbag. And he sold millions of dollars worth of like Fagasy wine to all these dorks that are like these dorks. Yeah, and they're all, oh, I spent this much on this, yeah.

It has an essence of tannin. There's a woody aftertaste, almost chocolate. Ah, I tasted chocolate. I wish who caught him was a Sommier. Like someone who was actually like, no, this tastes like shit. And, like, I'd be like, oh, it's real. Like, there...

There is one Samanier in that documentary. That these other guys were, like, sniffing it, going, this is the real stuff. And the other guy gets it, he goes, no, this is crap. What is this shit? I love that. And the, which is, like, a huge insult to the other fellows. Like, I don't... And they don't want to say they got duped.

No, no, no. This is the best, the best grapes during the best year. I have it. I have the grape juice. Can't you taste the hint of Costco? It's got a... You don't taste the box on this one? You don't taste trade a jokes.

That's hilarious. What a weird thing. It's a weird thing, man. But it's a fascinating documentary because it shows you what that thing really is. It's like this weird club that they all belong to where they get real nerdy about a flavor that's not that good. It's not that good. But you want the finest, so you believe. The best wine is not nearly as good as Kool-Eat.

Coalid is far superior to the best wine ever. Yeah. But it's not exclusive. It's like such a weird thing That some of it is so expensive And so revered that they have auctions for it The autograph world is full of a bunch of bull crap like that Like if you collect athletes autographs and stuff

I'm friends with the guys at icon autograph in San Diego or whatever And they're great guys but like I'll send them a photo of a thing And be like this is selling at this like you know Hotel Lobbyes they have those you know When you walk in it'll be like a photo of Taylor Swift framed And it's just like kind of autograph on it. It's selling for like $5,000 or whatever. And I sent him a thing because the item was so unique that I was like, this is pretty special. It was a baseball autographed

by Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe to have both those names like on the baseball. I was like this, there's no way. This is at a silent auction right now for like a thousand bucks. I sent it to my autograph guy and he goes, dude, there's like one of those in the world and it sold at auction for like millions or whatever. So this guy, just somebody, like you're like, the guy you're describing putting dirt on the thought he could pull one over and probably did I mean I didn't go whistleblow or anything but like he definitely did someone just wrote Joe DiMaggio on a baseball in Maryland Monroe and put it in a fancy case and you know some schmuck has that right now in his living room telling everybody about this ball he bought it's got committed

suicide a week after the story with viral over the summer oh my god he admits a counterfeiting over 350 million dollars in gear after police raid warehouses and then he kill himself the dealer says the scheme grew to be an addiction Wow What did he All sorts of fake autographs Oh yeah Oh my God

Certified stuff Biggest names in sports All sorts of bullshit So of course there's a lot of that Oh dude tons of it Yeah People repacking things Of course

You're always gonna have that It's wild Yeah It's just what I guess people's risk reward is fascinating to me too Like you know about The Chaunty Billips thing

What's that He was the head coach He's a Hall of Fame Oh this the NBA thing Yeah, Hall of Famer The money scam And then he's the coach of the Portland Trailblazers So you have money coming in

You're not desperate And then you're gonna risk your entire reputation You're gonna risk your entire You know Bank account By doing gambling And doing all this like dumb shit I'm like why would

Like at that point you think no more risks Like you're pretty good Why do corruption Why have like all this like gambling nonsense It makes no sense to me I get it if my friend does it Who's broke and he's like dude I had to like pull some bullshit you know

His times are tough This guy's the head coach for the Portland Trailblazers What are you doing? I think people get addicted To just pulling things off That's what that one was saying is that this guy said he was like Yeah, why? Well people are nuts man like the Gambling addiction is a weird one man

And I think some of those guys Maybe they get a bunch of losses And then they want to get it back by rigging a game You know what I mean? But they want to make it like So they definitely are going to win and they feel funny. It's, like, fun to get over.

Like, you rigged a game. Triced them. Yeah. Yeah, there's two baseball players for the Cleveland Indians right now. They're bringing up video where he accidentally struck people out and he's pissed. Yeah. He's going to strike guys like, fuck!

These two players, they'll never play. You're supposed to throw balls. Yeah, for $5,000 a pitch, which is, you know, kind of chump change to guys who make $30 million a year. You know, like, that's good money for me, but that's not good money for these guys. And they're, like, supposed to throw a ball at a certain time. or walk a player, like they were doing these different things, and they caught them.

You know, these guys. So the prop bets thing is the weird one, right? Yeah, and that's what makes it weird that, like, draft kings and all these things are such a big part of sports now. Right, because you're just going to have organized criminals that get involved in that and exploit it. There's a UFC problem right now. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, a UFC fight. So this was a story.

A lot of, the UFC has an organization. I don't know what organization they use. Maybe you could find out, Jamie, that. Monitor's unusual betting activity on any fight. So the moment there's any unusual betting activity, they contact the UFC. The UFC contacts this fighter. It says, hey, you're the favorite to win this fight.

There's a lot of unusual betting activity on you to lose. Like, are you okay? Is everything fine? Are you injured? No. No, I'm fine. I'm going to kill this fucking guy. Okay, has anybody contacted you about this fight?

No. So he goes out. Loses in the first round. Get submitted. Rear naked choke. Doesn't look good. Immediately, the UFC says we called the FBI. So, good.

Now, apparently, there's an investigation of many fights. Right. And there's a web, it seems like, of people that have contacted fighters and said, I will give you X amount of dollars if you lose this fight. Yeah. And a bunch of people have said no to it and publicly talked about how they said no to it. You know, really good fighters and even went on to lose the fight. you know, unfortunately and didn't get the money

but we're open about it right. Yeah. So it's one like Patchy Mix who was he was Bellator champion came over to the UFC and he said that someone I think he said someone he offered him $70,000 or something like that to lose a fight. Something crazy

I might be wrong if it was him that said that number. It might have been someone else but so they're offering dudes like a big pile of cash to lose to a fighter that they might have lose, you might lose to him anyway. Right. You know, like, it's probably a tight matchup anyway.

But if you definitely lose, so what do you do? You don't fight as hard. You make mistakes. You do something stupid. You know, you let them take your back. Right. You get choked out. And if you're good at defense, you might be able to, as long as you're getting submitted,

you know, you're probably not going to get hurt that bad. And you'll be able to make an extra $70,000. And you might be getting $10,000 to fight, right? So now all of a sudden you got $80,000. I don't agree with it, obviously. I think it's fucking terrible and it's Are you allowed to bet on yourself to win? Is that a thing? Well, I know fighters have in the past

Because that I would be fine with us. The UFC fighters right now are not capable of betting on the UFC. I think it's not just the fighters, but the commentators, the coaches, referees, everybody. No one's supposed to be betting on the UFC because there was another betting scandal. And so the other betting scandal was, this guy who is a active

MMA fighter and a really good coach and he got accused of using this discord server and they were running like a gambling discord server and a bunch of money came in on this dude to lose in the first round and he went out there and he lost in the first round and the word was

that he was hurt and that it had been expressed to these people bet against him because he's going to lose in the first round and a lot of people made money so this guy gets investigated the UFC bans him I don't know what the status of his case is but they also banned the fighters

that were training out of that gym I think I don't know if this guy see if this guy who just got in trouble if he was connected to that gym the gym is James Kraus's gym Yeah because I would be like fine with if they want to bet to win You're like I love that right

I love that too The thing is easy to trace When you were talking about, like, prop bets and stuff like that, losing the first round, you could just definitely lose in the first round and everybody makes $100,000. You know what I mean? Like, some people are going to take that. Right. Especially if a guy is, like, pretty good, but realistically, he's not going to be a world champion. You know, maybe you're 32.

Maybe you've got a lot of fucking... Maybe you're Mike Tyson fighting Jake Paul. You might have alimony. You have to pay off. You might have child support. You have to pay off. You're in debt. And that's why you're fighting in the first place.

that someone comes along and you're out of the hole now. You're going to get $100,000 to throw... And they're just going to bet a ton of loot on you. Right. And they're going to hope nobody notices. But I guess now people are noticing it. And you can kind of see if someone's not fighting back. And that was the thing about this fight.

I got to see it, obviously, when I knew the controversy. I didn't see it live. So I didn't have fresh eyes. You know, I didn't see it live and go, God, why is that guy fighting off the choke so badly? There's a bunch of NBA guys. Some Instagram account is really good. He found, excuse me.

Just dry him out, dry throat. Have a sip of water. I got nothing. While you sip the water, yes. He was previously coached by James Krauss. Say it again, James. He was previously coached by James Krauss. Okay.

So this guy who allegedly through this fight was also coached by this guy who was involved in the betting scandal. That's where computers are good. Those kind of little things where you can find that. like oh this is on like computers help in that way for sure that's a tangled web if you're involved with people that are making money gambling and not on the square so the thing is if you're just gambling on the square if you just watch a fight like Pereira versus Ancolaev too and you say I like Pereira to get that title back I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna put my money where my mouth is I'm putting too large too large on Poetan let's go that should that's totally fine and fun

yeah but when it gets to you have a prelim fighter and he's only making 10 grand and someone offers them you're going to get choked in the first round and it okay i got it i got it i got it and the opponent probably doesn't even know right so this guy has to figure out a way to give this guy's back right oh that's kind of funny he's like leading him yeah you have to give it to him you have to give it to him p there's been fights like that there's been fixed fights for sure oh for sure has to be he's best doing boxing oh it's weird because those boxers are their lives are so tough I mean, well, they've always done that throughout history.

Guys have taken dives, you know, especially if you weren't connected enough, you know, if you were a guy that wasn't with a big-time manager who had a big-time lawyer and probably mob ties. Mob ties, yeah. They all had mob ties. Right. You had to have mob ties. I'm going to lose a fight if the whole mob's going to kill my wife or something. You don't think Rocky Marciano had mob ties. For sure.

If you're the heavyweight champion of the world and you're Italian, all the mobsters want to be your friends. And you're a boxer. They love that. Flatlining everybody. It's funny to find out how many of these old guys didn't even like the sports. They just liked all the money part of it. Well, Marciano talked about it like that. It was just my job.

Yeah. But that guy was the freakiest training person I've ever heard of in boxing. Like the freakiest training regiment. It was crazy. Like, part of what made Marciano so good was that he never got tired because he had this insane work ethic. And he lost one fight when he was younger, I think in the amateur. because he got tired and he decided after that fight he was never going to lose a fight ever because he got tired so he just put himself through this fucking insane routine where he would get up in the morning before any training he would run 10 miles he would do his training he would hit the heavy bag for hours and then he would swim miles in the lake after training he would spar a hundred rounds a week he would just get to the point where you know we're talking about redlining yeah that's it did the same thing he redlined to the point where he couldn't do it anymore and then he retired undefeated but does that red line that that kind of thing that he was doing, you can't do forever.

And I watched this video about it the other day, and I'm like, this is bananas. Just to watch that guy's work ethic. And back when nobody had anything, you have no creatine, there's no vitamins. You know what I think about when you say the redlining thing? And maybe it's just because I'm influenced by his, like, the videos he posts and the things he does. But every time I know Michael Chandler, and like every time, like, I see this guy, like, he's like, oh, you're in Arizona, like, swing by the gym. and he's like throwing the thing again like he's just always like in this like he's I'm going to shoot a TV show tomorrow but I got to work out it like he's always so tremendous

discipline full on yeah like I've never seen him going on I'm taking a month off or we're going to the pool that's why he's still elite at 38 I think he's awesome I believe he's 38 now right how old is Michael Chandler I believe he's 38 um but that's why he's so elite he's never gotten out of shape 39 39 because that guy people don't even know about the wars that he got in with Eddie Alvarez when they were at Bellator. Some of the greatest fights in MMA history went unseen by a giant chunk of MMA fans because they didn't pay attention to Belator. Right.

But the Eddie Alvarez, Michael Chandler fights in Bellator were nuts. Really? I mean, not. Play a clip of it. I mean, nuts. Like from the opening bell to mad fights. fucking roosters just attacking each other. It is

so wild. Were those Belator guys redlining because they just wanted to get to UFC? Like they're still climbing the ladder, they're still in the hunt? Well, they were just these guys just redlined their entire career. Eddie Alvarez went on to become a UFC lightweight champion when he beat Hafeel Dosanjos, huge upset.

Eddie Alvarez is a fucking beast. But these two guys from the opening of the first fucking seconds of the fight, look, this is the beginning of the fight. Chandler's just throwing himself at him, just sprinting at him drops him, bro drops him again Look at this crazy Alvarez survived somehow

And he fires back bro these fights are nuts The fights I think they had I know they definitely had two I don't think they had three But in the two fights that they had together were fucking insane I mean the entire pace of the fight was fought like this He's awesome dude And they're really evenly matched

It was a really good matchupers looks a little bigger than him Well Chandler's a fucking tank dude He's the best And he's got crazy wrestler power from the legs You know so when he leaps at you Like when he knocked out Dan Hooker He lunges at you

Like he's shooting a double And throws a left hook at the same time When he knocked out Dan Hooker in his UFC debut Who was a really respectable MMA fighter A very good fighter but he just got caught Find that one Jamie I mean, find Michael Chandler, KOs, Dan Hooker. Because this was his UFC debut.

And again, Dan Hooker is like an elite fighter, which is one of the reasons why it was so impressive. And the fight starts out, and Chandler does the same fucking, this is his first fight in the UFC, the same shit he did in Bellator. He just charges Ford. I love it. I mean, this is how he always fights. It's do or die. That's why this guy's lost a ton of times, but he's still a huge fan favorite. It's because you know you're going to see.

this. I mean, he's just throwing bombs. Yeah, for sure. Bombs. Oh, big game. He's just so dangerous, man, because everything is 100%. He hasn't really landed at selling yet. Dan's landed, that one heard. Oh, that was just one, too.

Here comes. And look at the immediate... Oh! Big knockdown for Michael Chandler! Big right hand, Dan's hurt. Oh, my. Oh, God. Bro.

That's a rat, bro. And then he does a backflip off the top of the cage. Bro, that's a freak. Dude. Freak athlete. I met him, so I was doing a prank show for MTV called Money from Strangers, which was kind of like impractical jokers, but way darker. Like, we were, like, a lot edgier.

It was before money, or before impractical junkers. And so they'd always send me to, like, MTV Movie Awards or any kind of those things. And I was like, I don't know, I live in New York. They're going to send a car. I get to go on a red carpet, whatever. I'll drink. I'll make it fun. And they happen to be behind me.

The Bellatory guys happen to be the next guys in the red carpet line. And the way the red carpet works is no one cares about us at all. They're just waiting to get like Miley Cyrus or Beyonce or whoever the hell it is. So like we're basically the photos they're taking are just something we're going to save off the internet because no one gives a shit. They were like all Bellador guys. So people at this movie awards don't necessarily care. these guys are behind me and they're like this guy is fun

because I'm making all these jokes and like goofing around and I was already kind of like buzzed up and so then Michael Chandler and these two other Bellator guys Brog the Predator you know he is? No he was a Bellator guy too Cleveland guy big big guy he's awesome too

but anyways these three guys and they were like this is kind of dumb and I was like yeah this shit's kind of gay I don't want to be here you know and then they were like let's just go drink and so we just drank and met people and hung out and they're like want to get Subway and we got in a car and got in Gus Subway

and I just hung out with these dudes all night and I've been pals with them ever since Oh, that's awesome Yeah, but it's like, I didn't really know what they did I just kind of knew that they were like fighter guys And so like I thought they were in UFC at that time And they weren't they were in the whatever was on that network Was paying really well

And Belator had a pretty good following for a while I mean it was doing really well There was some real elite fighters out of Belator And a lot of guys like they came over to the UFC Because they became famous famous in Belator Like Ben Ascran He came over from Bellator. He actually did a stint at one FC before he came to UFC eventually.

But there's a lot of guys that never came over, you know. Unfortunately, like Douglas Lima. Douglas Lima at one point in time was one of the best welterweights alive. And, you know, he was the Belator champion. He's like the only guy that's ever knocked out Michael Venham Page. Do they have like an MMA Hall of Fame? Yes, there's a UFC Hall of Fame. And I think there's an MMA one too, maybe.

the MMA awards. I don't know. Because that sucks. There's a UFC Hall of fame, though. Yeah. But that's UFC guys. I know. Yeah, it sucks.

I know. Some guys, they wait too long in these other organizations, unfortunately. And the reality of the sport is, you know, there's a bunch of different organizations you can compete for. And I think if the PFL is paying you more money, go to the PFL. Do whatever you want to do. But if you really want to be the world champion, you have to be the UFC champion. That's just how it is right now. It's like Major League Baseball.

It's like in boxing. If you're the undisputed champion, you have all belts, then you're Terrence Crawford. But if you're like a WBA champion and there's also a WBC champion and an IBF champion, that shit's too confusing to the average person. And for most people, the UFC is for good or for bad. I'm just saying that's just how most people think of it. That's how I probably annoyed them that night because I was like, oh, you guys are UFC guys? And they're like, we're Bellator. Yeah.

You don't go looking for cotton swabs. You go buy Q-tips. You look for Q-tips. That's what it is. You're not just watching pro football. You're watching the fucking NFL. Absolutely. And if you're so bored, you're watching the XFL.

You start Canadian Football League. I got to go to the gun range or something. I got to clear my head. Yeah, well, what would happen to me? I got to do something different. But I feel like that's just for better for worse. This is how it is. That's how it is in America.

We don't have a lot of attention span. And if it's going to be elite fighting, it's got to be, there's like one organization that we follow sorry yeah and i follow them all i follow everything i try to pay as much attention to moitai as i do to boxing as i do to wrestling and jiu jutsu tournaments i try to pay attention to everything just because i want to know like who's coming up who's good what's new what different things are people trying that they've never done before do you see holly holm did wrestling bro she's a fucking athlete she's the best la is an athlete well after her fights Mike Winkle John used to like

Like she used to stand on his hands and do a backflip After all of her fights It's amazing See if you can find that It's crazy She would win and then he would do this backflip war She was just at a place to watch wrestling And then there was something she could sign up for

And she's like fuck it I'll do it Bro, that late is strong And they were like really? Because she's famous So they were like we'll let you be part of it She goes sure And she did

And she was just like The second they said her name Everyone cheered It was like not like a huge grandiose plan to think There was no contract There was no anything She just did it It's like this year

She just texted me about it I go what? Like did they go crazy? And she's like no I mean like it's just fun It was a fun thing I thought why not Yeah that's the thing

Well show that again She's the best Watch how they do this Yeah So cool That was the thing They would do after all our fights Well she

Fucking back muscle son That's crazy Yeah what she said She said The guy like her manager Whoever she asked about it Briefly was like He was like

Well what if you get hurt And her this is great she goes yeah but what if I win and I was like what a great response and he was like fuck it let her do it and so she did it and I was like that is the coolest thing what a mentality multi-sport martial arts champion she's the best she was champion in kickboxing you know she had champion in boxing women's boxing

in MMA she did the full trifecta yeah she's the kind of crazy and she's a really nice lady too that's what I like about her yeah she's cool I don't know a lot of fighters I named all the fighters, I know. Michael Chandler and Hollyholm. That Hollyholm fight with Rhonda Rousey was nuts. That was in Australia, and it was a huge crowd, like a massive arena, man. And when she landed that head kick and you realize that Rhonda was out, and then she's hammer-fished and everything.

It just didn't even, it was like when Mike Tyson got beat. Remember when Mike Tyson? You were too young. But when I was a kid. When Buster Douglas. When Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson, I saw it, I heard about it. I didn't watch it. I saw a tape of it.

And I still thought he was going to get up. You knew the outcome. I was like, he gets up. He doesn't lose? There's no way. There's no way. Now, I remember that for sure because Mike Tyson was larger than life. Larger than life.

And he was so like one of those celebrities that, like, you knew everything he was doing. Stars shined really brightly back then. There was like Michael Jackson, you knew Michael Jordan. You knew Michael Jackson. You knew. And they would go out. Yeah. They would go to places and people.

Big deal. Yeah. Mike Tyson. I remember being in the kingdom watching a baseball game. It was the same night. I was a little boy. And they put on the screen that Mike Tyson was disqualified for biting Evander Holyfield's ear. And the whole stadium reacted.

Like, I mean, like, they didn't interrupt a baseball game, but they put it up there because the news was so large. Like, it was a very big deal. Bro, he bit him twice. That was crazy. I watched the first fight today. I watched the first Evander Holyfield. Why did you watch it today? I just felt like watching it.

I love that. I do that. Like, when I'm in the gym, I'll pick, like, an old fight. I'll put it on. And I put on that fight. And I was like, wow, that was a crazy fight. I can't work out unless David Goggins is calling me a pussy in my headset. That's all I listen to.

You don't know me, son? Dude, it's the best. Like, every time I'm worried. I was at Equinox this morning. I had David Goggins in my thing, just going, you're a piece of shit. You can do better, Jeff. You can be bigger. Guggins is the best.

That's what I listen to. Or those kind of like YouTube things where they compile. You know, it's like just all motivation stuff with music over it. You don't seem like your guy. needs motivation. Do you just do it for fun? I like it. Yeah, and it keeps me in the mindset. I always channel all of it back to like stand-up comedy, you know, because like I'm working towards something. I'm in the hunt. I'm climbing. And so like, they could be talking about a battle in war and I'm still like, yep, that's what I'm, what's next? I'm gonna, yeah, I'm

climbing, you know, I'm still hungry. Yeah, that's a fun time. It's a fun thing to do. Yeah. You know, the fact that you get to do it. When also, like, otherwise I'd just sleep till noon or sleep till one, you know? But like, if I have that, I'm like, no, I got to get up and write or I got to get up and, you know. Here's a question. You're doing this, obviously, and you're doing this for the love of the thing. And you said that if you didn't need money and you didn't even get paid money, you would still do it. And I think the same way. I would do it too. But what do you think about the idea of universal basic income? Because this is something that is being discussed with automation and with AI. And we were having a conversation about

the other day with Elon and he was saying that he thinks that AI can generate so much productivity that you could have universal high income and then I went wait okay am I are we married to this idea that everything that you do in life you have to be doing just for money because that's what it is now if you're if you're a professional you're doing it for money if you're a professional podcaster if you're a race car driver you're doing it for money right why are we married to that and if you didn't need money and no one needed money would you just find a thing you love to do and would we be able to rewire our brains and still have some feeling of value and of identity and without being attached to an occupation like isn't it possible that we've just

tricked ourselves into thinking that the only way to live is to live in a way where everything you're doing, you're doing is for money. And then if it's just everybody does their best at things and enough money is generated so that basically everybody has, like what he was saying, a universal high income, what does that mean? Like, is that a feasible thing? Like, what is AI going to do with production? What is AI going to do with automation, resource extraction, how much money is going to be

generated, that you're going to be able to literally have the entire population in the country under universal high income? Is that even possible? And if it is, what happens to people's desire? What happens to their dreams? Do they just find a thing like you and I have and do that and not care about money and really be into the thing? Can't that be taught? If it's taught to you, have you figured it out and I figured it out.

If people have figured it out, they figured out like find a thing you love and you're never going to work again. Because you're going to love doing it, whether it's building cars or painting or carpentry. If you really fucking love doing it, you do it because you love it. it. Wouldn't that be a better way to live? I know. I know. You can't do it. I know. I know, no, no, no, no. I know, no, no. It wouldn't work. There's too much money in the stock market. I get it. I get it. It wouldn't work. But as a thought experiment, wouldn't that be a way that's possible for people to live if it's possible for you to live that way, if it's possible for me to live that way. If it's possible to find enough people that are willing to do and love to do all the things that we need to keep a society. running? I think the point of life, in my opinion, is meaning. So you associate whatever that means to you, right? So like a lot of people find meaning in being a mom or a dad. That gives them enough. They have that meaning. Or they have a hammer to hold on to. Like they need that meaning. Right. I need comedy. Like that's why when my brain broke during COVID is because I didn't

have comedy. I didn't have a outlet creatively. How long did you go without doing any comedy? I mean, realistically, I only went a few days, because I was doing like Zooms and I was doing like underground things for rich guys. I like, I was the first comic. Me and Brad Williams were the first comics to go work in a comedy club with the new COVID restrictions.

We were the, because they knew if they called me or Brad, we'd say yes. Like Keith Stubbs called me from Salt Lake goes, we're thinking about doing a show with all the restrictions and just see if the government shuts us down. Would you be willing to come and I was like yes I didn't even talk about price I just go yes like I because I need it now

why do I need it because that's where I personally find my meaning now if I maybe was at home and going man I'm getting a lot more time with my kids and I'm getting a lot more time with my wife and like things are pretty productive around here that's where I would have put my meaning you know I think like and it's just where we put it's where we kind of put it and I think so a lot of people find a lot of value in their jobs that make them the money but that's that gives them something to do don't you think yes i i do think that but what you're saying about so if you just start giving a meaning what you're saying about finding meaning and having a family or finding me yes for sure but also i think the human mind needs

activities right i don't think it's just raising children only i think you should probably have things that you love to do as well just for your own sanity but if you didn't have to worry about money you'd still be involved in this pursuit of stand-up comedy because you love it all the stuff that people do just for money like the guy who does the fucking septic tanks that guy's not having a good time he's smelling other people's shit all day he's pumping out other people shit all day that can't be fun right we need him right we need them right we need them until the robots come and then you don't need him anymore so this is the point like what does that guy do to find some sort of meaning? He's probably not finding meaning in pulling shit

out of people's ground. He's probably would like to do something different. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm so naive that I'm like, no, that guy should be proud of himself. Like, I'm really, I look at plumbers like heroes. Like, I'm like, dude, the guy that, like, fixed the electrical in my house, I'm like, I love you, dude. Like, whatever I can pay you. Bro, I had a septic problem at my house once. One of my houses in California when I first moved there, and it was so nasty when I would flush the toilet the bathtub would fill up and I was like what is this those are linked yeah well what it was was the septic system there was a pump I was living on a hill and the pump would pump it up the hill the poop water and then the pump broke and so they had to get in there

and get the pump out in the poop water and put a new and start and that guy's my hero like that guy we need that guy that's a bud like commercial for you American heroes. That's why I like cops. I like what you were saying earlier, but the military, the nurses, like... They're going to send a robot to fix your poop pump. The robot's going to do it. A robot's going to do it and it's going to do it perfectly with AI and you're not going

to need a person to get covered in shit water. Okay. And that guy's going to get a lot of money just to sit at home. But then what does he do? Right. That's the thing. Yeah. Because I think a lot of it's going to happen really quickly.

This is something that Andrew Yang was talking about years ago and it was sort of, I agree, agreed with him, but it was a little abstract then. And now this was way back... Was that 2020 when Andrew Yang was running for president? I've never heard of Andrew Yang. You don't know... What's that? Was it 2016?

It might have been 2016. You never heard of Andrew Yang? Brilliant guy. And had a very good... 2020. He had a brilliant... Yeah, I didn't think it was that long ago. A great point about automation

and that one day automation. is going to remove a lot of jobs, including drivers, right? Like, you're seeing it with these wevos, these... Yeah. So there's that, is like, that's the first sounds. That's the first shot fired across the bow of a crazy war where the robots are going to take all our jobs.

Because that is now... You have these Tesla trucks that are automated, and they can... You know, like my car, my Tesla, I just press a button. It does all the driving. It does everything. I don't have to do shit. I can literally just sit there with my hands of the wheel and barely pay attention if I wanted to.

I don't do it. I never do it either. I have it and I don't do it. Yeah. It's nuts. So that's going to be the future. And there's going to be no driving jobs. And okay.

And then what about everything else? Well, everything else manufacturing is out the window. Robots are going to do it 24 hours a day. They're going to be more efficient. No unions, no health care, no need for nothing. They're never going to fuck up. Everything's going to be categorized. They have sets these mind.

operations in China where everything's automated. There's no people working at all. The trucks are driving. They're getting recharged. They're fucking picking up the cold. They're moving to coal. They're bringing it somewhere else. It's all automated. It's bananas, man. So that's just a massive

erration or erasing of jobs. They're just going to go away. Well, the dot com did that. Yeah, but I think this is way bigger, dude. I think this is way bigger. I think this happens, and the first everybody's like, oh, this sucks. And it's like, oh, my God, this It's not stopping.

It's not stopping. It's taking over everything. It's going to be all jobs. There's going to be no more need for lawyers, no more accountants, no more coders. All that stuff's going to be done with AI. It's going to get so weird if you're going to college right now. Because you could be going to college for something that's absolutely obsolete in three years. Sure.

Yeah, well, but so I get that problem. But someone's introducing an idea that they just give me. money to people for free so they don't because of this well here's the thing if that becomes something that controls everything which is really ultimately what it's probably going to do controls all of our power grid all of our waste management resources everything it's going to control everything it's going to generate insane amounts of wealth but the question is like how does it even get distributed that's the part that i don't how does that work who's got the money if you're just giving people money

and then they what they just everyone's a trust fund kid in a way you know they don't do anything they just sit around and eat and what do you what do you get people involved with to occupy their time you know do you encourage them to join

religious groups do you get them to be involved in games do we try to give people meaning are we all just going to sit around and wait for the robots to just take over and we're going to be the last civilization of real people 100 years from now they're going to be like

I think I want to do what the robots do People are like what You know in the old times You know people would actually have to do And then maybe there'd be like a movement of that You know Dude the Terminator was accurate Yeah oddly accurate

Remember You remember the first time you saw that movie Like this will never happen I'll tell you a funny story about that Terminator I was on mushrooms with my buddy Randy And he forgot that he was at a long distance girlfriend He forgot that he was going to call her and so we just ate

you know four grams of mushrooms like we just crushed them right it was COVID you know and we got nowhere to be is the point so we just we're like going full journey you know we're going to do a bunch and we eat them or sitting there and then he he goes

all right I forgot I was going to call Rachel and I'm like all right but it starts to kick in a little bit he left Terminator on and then his gay roommate is like on a first date in the kitchen so there's two like cute guys like flirting with each other and one of them barely knows me and the other one doesn't know anybody in the apartment and I'm just sitting there watching Terminator and like he can't be killed you know, Terminator

is like the bullets are just going through them and the metal just kind of starts forming again and I'm just sitting there I don't know if I was there for 20 minutes I don't know if I was there for seven hours and I'm just freaking the fuck out going God damn he can't kill these Terminators and these gay guys keep looking at me and I don't know what Randy's doing I thought he just abandoned to me forever I had like I can't even watch Terminator the same anymore. Luckily he came down and goes, all right, let's go to the roof and I was like, thank God you're here. I went up there and talked about it all, but like, I was freaking the fucker. How long was he on the phone for? Don't know. I'm going to guess 15, 20 minutes.

But it seemed forever. Oh, it seems so long. And I'm just sitting there overthinking everything. And then also the Terminator, like, just seemed like so pointless. I'm like, why you can't kill it? Just surrender. You know, you can't shoot through this thing. Well, didn't it come back eventually and become a good guy in the later movies? I don't know which version of the Terminator I was watching, like if it was T2 or T3 or whatever, but it was... How many have there been? I don't know. How many? It wasn't the first one. Fasten Furious's

or Terminators? Fasten the Furious. Fasten the furious didn't also become a TV show, I don't think, yet. I just saw The New Predator and it fucking rules. Terminator became a TV show? Yeah. When? Uh, uh... No. Really? Did you know that? Did you know that? The Thera Conner Chronicles. No, I haven't seen the new predator.

Dude, it rules. When was this? It was an eight. 2008? Huh. I didn't watch it. That looks ridiculous. That was the thing. They made a lot. They went down the rabbit hole with Terminator,

but there's probably like six movies now. I think I was watching like T2 or T3. Terminator, Terminator 2, Terminator 3, Terminator Salvation. There's all these. Six of them. You know the last ones? They're just trying to wring that towel out and get a couple more drops of blood.

You ever seen the Lepricon movies? Yes. Dude, after a while, they're just like, Leopard goes to space? Lepricon in the hood? Like, it was just literally put the leprechaun in some setting. It's funny that one caught. You know?

Like, some things catch and they become like cult classics. The lepercon movies were cult classics. Very good. Yeah. And the troll movie? You ever see the troll movie? I saw Troll 2, which is like the worst film that's ever been made. Have you seen that?

Which one's that? There was no Troll 1. They just made Troll 2. It's so bad, it's phenomenal. Like, it's absolutely the best, the best watch. If you watch Troll 2, you'll watch the first scene. or whatever, and you'll go, oh, he's the worst actor I've ever seen in my life. And then the next person

will come in the scene, you go, oh, no, she's the worst actor, and it just keeps going. Everyone is worse than the next person. Oh, gosh. So bad. I think they remade troll two and it's coming out on Netflix in a whole week. You're kidding. I just Googled troll two, and there's a trailer for a movie coming out to send a first. They made a

documentary about it called Best Worst Movie. Oh, no. Oh, you're kidding. No, this is different. Yeah, no, I know. These are pretty awesome. He's got a big dick. I don't know what the fuck it came to Did that troll have a big dick? I haven't heard of it. That's his tail or something? Yeah.

It's got a tail. It is weird that he doesn't have a dick, though. Well, it's like, why does he conveniently have, like, animal skins over his dick? 1990 was when the other one came out. If you're that gross, I would imagine he would be totally comfortable being naked. Just, who cares? Yeah, you're not modest. You know, why are you going to cover your giant dick?

Yeah. Show it off while you kill people. Swinging while you're stomping on people. The last thing I do is see that helmet dropping down. That's why you lost your house. Look at the size of my cock. This is ridiculous. Why would he be vain?

Or why would he be modest? You know what's supposed to be really good? Looks really good? Is that new Frankenstein on Netflix? Oh, yeah, the Guillermo Datoro. Yeah. I haven't seen that. But you don't like the Predator movies?

They're good. Oh. I liked the Prey one. Pretty good. That was a good one. Yeah. Fun. You know, the Comanche one.

A lot of Indians dying in that, you know? Yeah, it was kind of crazy. That one felt weird. This one, I don't want to spoil anything. But they definitely stray. from the rules of being a predator but it's so good really good it's really good yeah

I loved it oh it's the one where is she a robot she's a robot which also makes it more realistic that she's so like able to do everything anytime I'd start to feel sexist like oh my gosh they did this like girl power thing you're like no she's just a robot they made

look like a woman so it's not like you have to feel like it's not you know whatever so this is predators are getting fucked up here Uh, this, so it's based off this one runt predator who's on, that's why he looks kind of weird and shitty. Don't spoil alert it. No, that's the, that's the premise. Is that what it is?

Yeah, I didn't spoil anything. But he's like a little runt. Oh. And so that's why he's out to prove himself, like, because he's smaller than all of them, he's missing a fang, he looks a little weird. But that's because he's supposed to look weird. Because a lot of people are like, this, this predator looks stupid. Damn, 85% are rotten tomatoes? Dude, it's so good. That's interesting.

93% liked this movie. No shit. I loved it, dude. I like when they can do that with a movie You know you think like oh what is this going to be Right flip it on its head That's how I felt And every time there would be a thing where I'd start to criticize it

Like I'd be like this feels like mortal combat And then in my mind I'd go Jeff you love mortal combat And I was like alright And then like the next part would be like This is kind of Star Wars I'm like but I love Star Wars So like I kept like coaching myself And then after a while I was like this movie's really good

Yeah you gotta just enjoy things Yeah that's what I tell people when I play AI music for them Like just enjoy it Forget about the fact the robots are taking over This is great music This is a pattern of every famous person I know. What did you say, Jamie? Great is tough.

Which one's tough? Great. Great is a weird word for it. It's amazing. How about that? It's very good. That what up gangsta is amazing. You know it is.

I've gone to those rabbit holes too watching cover songs, though. Like my favorite cover song and finding different bands doing good versions of it. They're real. Listen, the real bands are better for sure because it's a real band. So it's a real person. But I love listening to AI music. I know there's one going viol today. I haven't ever even heard of this.

It's not officially number one. It's like a weird designation, but there's a song that's number one on the country digital sales chart by a completely AI ban. Well, DJs kind of did that. Too many listsers a month. DJs were kind of like the first version of that. Like they're putting in their robot and then like making the songs and sampling and stuff. So this is just, I mean, it's not that far deviating. This is way deviating.

This is you could change the kind of song like you could. You have a little Charlie Crockett, a little Elvis Presley. You can mix it. They're like, they're essentially drawing from all the songs that have ever been made. So all the best sounds that anybody's ever sound. It has to be good. It's amazing. It's so good.

It has to be. The way you just described it. It has all the music. We'll wrap this up, Jeff, and we'll wrap this up, and I'll play you a little what-up Gangster. We don't need the audience at home to hear this, but you need to hear this. We'll have to edit out anyway. So many successful people I know

are really like big music heads Oh music is a drug man It's a marvelous drug that inspires you It makes you feel better Makes you move around At Mothership you guys are always playing A good music up in that green room And I'm always like what is this

Like every single time I think I'm in that green room I'm always going what's this one Tony's got a bunch Well everybody contributes Everybody when they find a cool song We'll bring it into the green room And then we'll add it to the We got the playlist on Spotify

It's like 34 hours or something now Yeah it's crazy because you just keep adding a cool song That's perfect Jeff Dye Anything website Instagram I just launched a podcast

It's called Die Hard Pretty good Yeah D-Y E hard Once a week Comes out every week You can watch it on YouTube Or wherever you listen to a podcast

It's on everything I like the name Yeah And then At first I didn't Because of you I made it for everyone You know

Like I had it behind a thing On a Patreon And like nah Don't do that Yeah, it just won't grow. That's the problem. Like, you get some money for like a complete lack of... Yeah, I'd rather everyone hear it.

And then also we'll start doing a thing where it's like once a week, we'll do the, you know, a face-to-face where I have like an interview with somebody that I like and sit down and do like a proper podcast. Beautiful. But yeah, and then jefftie.com to find all my tour dates. And I'll see you tonight. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. Thanks for having me, brother.

All right. Here's the music. We're going to be able to be.