The Joe Rogan Experience - #2413 - Theo Von

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

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Joe Rogan podcast checking out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night All day Who, me? Sorry, I didn't know you're talking Talking to one of the... There's only three of us in here

Yeah, are there? I don't know, dude With the glasses, man, what's the new sophisticated look? Yeah, I got them. What's going on? I see, I see, got them. Yeah, they're great, man. My buddy Joseph gave them to me.

I got them from him. Yeah. Yeah, and they're popping. And they help, too. Yeah? Yeah. Are you losing your vision? Mm.

Mm. I don't think so, but I think these just make it even better. Okay. Let me say. Let me try them. Yeah. I'm trying them on, big dog. Oh, barely.

I could get them weighted, too, so you could do a neck workout where you have them on. Why would you do that? This is, uh... God, I can't tell the difference. Are you sure these are real? I think they are I don't think these are real glasses dog

let me see I don't think they Jamie put these on I don't first of all they're smeared as fuck yeah somehow they keep getting grease on them dude I'll like don't

you got greasy fucking fingers you keep touching them you're not supposed to look at you're rubbing your head you're rubbing your greasy face I don't even go in the kitchen you don't need grease you don't need to go in the kitchen for green

barely tell the difference right it's doing something but barely barely this is psychological it's like it's uh if you're 20 if you're not 20 2020 or 2025.

These are psychological dog. You don't think they're good? No, no, I'm not what I'm saying. I mean, they're fine. Yes, sir. You look smart. I'm a little smarter, right? I've been reading too much.

They're, I think it's a psychological thing. Yeah, it could be. I've got to believe that they make you see better. My vision's okay. It's not as good as it was when I was young. I've got to read the packaging again. But it's a lot better than it used to be. I started using a red light, a red light bed.

It makes a giant, too. Really? Huge difference. Yeah, I don't need reading glasses anymore. I need a reading glasses for a while. Like, look at my phone. Like it was fine text. I don't read it. I don't need it at all anymore. And that's because of the red light. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, red light therapy and certain vitamins like lutein. There's a few different, there's a company called pure encapsulations. They make a formulation called macular support. And I take that stuff. But those two things, for sure, have had a big impact. I think it's the red light, though, more than anything. That was the big. That's the big. That's the big. That's the big. factor. I've been doing saunin. I've been getting in there. It feels good. I feel like a little dumping when I get out of there. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. Right? Yeah, it feels good. Yeah. Get that body all heated up and everything just kind of flows out of you. I saw a protocol of what you're supposed to do before you get in there and I've never done any of these things. But it's like how much water you're supposed to drink before you go in. Like 45 minutes. You're supposed to go. You're supposed to drink like a liter of water with electrolytes and some magnesium.

I don't know, some guy made this. That's the problem. Like, everybody's an online guru. Yeah, well, everybody, everything they watch, it's like they think you're trying to get in the Olympics. It's like, bitch, I'm just trying to fucking get to work. You know what I'm just trying to feel a little bit better. Yeah, I'm just trying to make it out of my garage.

Give me an edge. Give me an edge on this cold, hard world. Yeah, that's the only thing, man. That's all I'm looking for. But good to see you, dude. Good to see you always, my friend. I'm glad you're still alive. You too.

I'm glad you're still alive, too. Amen. We've both been interviewing dangerous people. Have what you think? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. You really have. Who have I interviewed that you have it?

It's more dangerous. Oh, I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, I did. I don't. Yeah, I don't think I have people that's that dangerous. Maybe Thomas Massey. Oh, did you have him on?

Yeah. Yeah, they all hate him right now. It's, this is a sad thing about both political parties. It's not just the right, but the left, too, is they decide that they're going to gang up on someone for not towing the line. Yeah. You know, like whatever happened to having different opinions, whatever happened to having different perspectives and being able to argue your perspective. But then they have these goofy-ass bills, which, by the way, they just fucking, they slip something into this last bill that Mitch McConnell guy did, I believe. Check, making sure that he did it.

The hemp thing. they slip this thing in where you can no longer buy CBD with like it has to be like the lowest trace amount of THC in it which is for like my wife's mom you know she's an older lady and she takes CBD

for pain for joints and stuff like that does she smoke it or she does the ointment? No she takes like oil like CBD oil yeah he's not getting a hit of something look at his old fucking dead turtle he's a leading proponent of clothes a 2018 farm bill loophole allowing intoxicating THC

to be sold in low doses. See, but he's got a couple of fucking milligrams in his neck. Look at that motherfucker. He's got something going on. They definitely got him medicated. There ain't no way that guy's sleeping without help. Everybody hates him. It looks like he hit a joint and won't leave him alone.

Go back up and show him. Like took an edible. He's like Joey Diaz dozed him. He looks like he's on the church. He's on the church of what's happening now. And Joey Diaz. Joey Diaz and Lee are just staring at them. Yeah.

They got to change that. That's really bad. Why is it bad? Because for people that are getting benefits from CBD, the THC along with the CBD. And by the way, we're talking super, super low amounts. But there's something about how CBD and THC work in a synergistic way for people that are in a lot of pain. I know a lot of people. and like I said, my wife's mom, she says the stuff with the THC in it works better.

And it's not getting her high. Like, this is the misunderstanding. This stuff's not going to get you high. But what it will do is it helps with anxiety for a lot of people. It definitely reduces inflammation. And for people that have, like, joint pain, like my friend Dave Foley. Dave Foley from news radio, kids in the hall, Dave Foley, awesome guy. Dave had, like, pretty severe arthritis in his hands, like where, you know, he was really having a hard time opening.

his hands, started taking CBD oil. Can you open a jar or anything like that? You think was it hard? He was in pain, man. It was bad. But now it's gone. And it's gone because of CBD. It's really effective, man. It's really effective. And so what they're saying that they don't want you to, why are they doing that? Because they want to control it.

It's the alcohol lobby. It's the same people that are trying to keep marijuana illegal in Texas. It's the alcohol lobby. This is the fact. The fact is, when people start smoking weed, they drink less. and you know i mean it could be because they just decided to get high and not get drunk

or it could be that they smoke pot and they get a little paranoid and they go oh my god why am i poisoning myself five days a week well a lot of people now feel like are just doing like cocaine and saunas it seems like i don't think they're doing those together maybe in your neighborhood not in our area maybe it's your town all my neighbors to know that maybe your neighbors are coming over their underwear with a fucking baggie let's go Oh, Theo. Let's go. Let's get that bitch up to 185.

Let's go. There's a place up ahead. Throw that water on them rocks. I'm ready. I want my nasal cavity to be opened wide. Get that eucalyptus in the air. Bro, dude. The best is, yeah, if you have a good brother or somebody, they say eucalyptus.

Yeah, that's the fucking best. Get the eucalyptus in the air. But, yeah, I don't know if a lot of people are even drinking that much anymore. Do you think? A lot less people are drinking, including me. But I did have a drink the other night before I went on stage. I felt great. Woo, I haven't done that in a while.

I had a little whiskey before I went on stage. But I gave up on drinking entirely for many months. I forget how many months, but it was quite a while where I didn't have a sip of alcohol. And I felt way better. You did? Yeah, but I don't think there's anything wrong with moderation. You know, like when I was in New York, I went to this place, Teresi. Oh, my God.

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Bro, all handmade pasta at Gaetano's, man. What was that little thing? It's like a little square. There's a Ravioli son. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, right? Like a shingle fell off the roof of heaven and landed in my house. Yeah, with that sauce, just perfect sauce.

And Gaetano's is like a lot of it. It's like the best ones get their flour from Italy, because it doesn't fuck with your stomach. Our flour's all messed up, man. Our wheat's messed up. Oh, yeah, a lot of our wheat's from Memphis, dude. A lot of our wheat has like, yeah. All kinds of pesticides on it. It's glyphosate. A lot of it has, trapweed. Yeah, a lot of has guns. It's like fucking bullet holes in our wheat. You could test positive for Coke, just from that, just from eating wheat, just from having bread. Do you know how dollar bills test positive for Coke? It's some crazy number. Yeah, I can imagine that that's probably true. This guy test positive, huh? That's our bill. Is that your stepdad?

No, that's our bill. You don't know Art Bell is? Coast to Coast with Art Bell From the Kingdom of Nye Yeah, Parump Nevada That's him? Yeah, that's Art

He's the godfather of fun conspiracies Like UFOs The radio station You could listen at night Dude, he was my nighttime jam Coming home from the comedy store I could see that

Always because you're coming home From the comedy store It's like, you know, one o'clock in the morning And the art coast to coast With Art Bell is on The guy calls up Art I'm a time traveler He had a time traveler hotline

He was you He was you You freak You know how time travelers you've had in here Probably a couple Oh yeah At least one A couple they probably can't find their way home too

At least one I've had at least one time travel I've had at least one time travel I could totally picture it now You like you get a car with some speakers in it And you're the only one driving around Listening to Art Bell Oh there's a lot of people listening

He was really popular Oh no I know how popular he was But I mean at a level where you would bump it with space Oh yeah Like you loved it that much Yeah I loved it I loved it. You know, it's like the perfect stuff to occupy your mind coming home from the comedy store.

Because occasionally it was like real shit. Like occasionally he'd have some people talking about some really fascinating things. You know, like asteroid impacts and he had Terrence McKenna on a few times. He had a lot of interesting people. But then every now and then he would mix it up with a dude who says he's a werewolf. And Art would never go, man, you ain't a werewolf. He would go, interesting. Tell me more.

He let dudes talk He let dudes say the most ridiculous shit It was fucking great I got to do his show once I got it Yeah You pulled in I did it when he was on the radio

Or on the internet rather He wasn't on the radio anymore He had an internet radio show for a while And did he know who you were at that point or no Yeah yeah luckily But to me it was like Fuck yeah It's like a few things in my life

Where when I did him I was like Yes You know that was a big one I hung up the phone I had giant fucking smile my face. Yeah. I just did the Art Bell show, son. Dude, that's so cool that that's him. I can't tell if I can see him better with or without these on. I think it's psychological. I'm telling those glasses don't do a damn thing. They don't even change the shape of your face. You know

sometimes people put them on and I always go, how blind is this motherfucker? And I'll look to the side and I can see like their face caves in like a half a foot because they got giant magnifying glasses over their eyeballs. But with you, it looks exactly the same. The line of your face doesn't change at all when you turn side to side. I think they're fucking with you. I think they're crazy. And they're like, his eyes are perfect. Just give him some clear lenses.

And you're like, yeah, I think I think this works. I think I see better than he's. I think you, y'all got a vape pen? Yeah. Let me hit that vape, homie. There is something about when people wear them, they look smarter. Oh, for sure, dude. My friend was wearing them the other day, this girl.

And I was like, dang, this girl is. She must be a genius. Yeah. Hot secretary or hot professor, hot lady professor. Let me do some homework up in them undies. That's what I was thinking. Yeah.

Let me get up in that study hall, baby girl. Let me get them extra credit points. Let's go. Yeah, dude. But if you're a dumb dude with glasses, that's a bad look. Because not only you're blind, but you're fucking stupid, too. It was like Stephen Avery's cousin, that little fellow that stood by the, like, was grilling hot dogs on the, that burn barrel and the, remember when they, when they...

Who's Stephen Avery? Who's Stephen Avery? How would you describe them? The murders from the, like, Netflix thing from the, I think it was a Pinnat, wasn't it? Making a murder, was that him? Yeah. What was his case? He was a murderer.

Well, they said he was, was he? Yes, he was a murderer. He's in jail for it. He's in jail for it. And he had his little cousin. Oh, this is the guy that's a little mentally challenged. Yeah. I've read some stuff.

little cousin, that's him, has shades on. Brendan Dassey, B. Dassey. Who's actually, we did a little bit of pen-palling with him, tried to anyway. What do they think about this? Do they think that... I think he did it. I think there was like... I believe people said that the Netflix thing got like edited strange and left stuff out. That's the thing. You can't tell what's real anymore.

Who knows? Well, selective editing is crazy. It's crazy that they still do that. Well, everything's crazy right now. I know. I mean, I feel like this is the year. Do you feel like this is the year that people realize that like neither side of the government is working for us? Is that a weird thing to say? Well, it's true. It's pretty obvious that it's true.

They're all working for the people that got them in. So no matter what they, even if they're good people that want to do well for you, there are obligations when they get in there are the people that help them get in there. They're the campaign contributors. They're the military industrial complex, the military contractors, the big money, big money banks, big money. That's what all this government shutdown shit was all about, man. It's all about health care, right? So it's all about how much money is getting funneled through these corporations. If you really think that what they're trying to do is make sure that people get health care, you're fucking naive.

Yeah, you're ridiculous. What they're doing is they are protecting some kind of slush fund. If somebody digs into this and finds out where that money's going and finds out how this money's distributed, it'll make more sense. Because there ain't a fucking chance in hell that they're keeping the government shut down to protect your health. Yeah. There's not a chance. There's not a chance. They're shutting down the fucking air traffic controllers.

Not a chance. They're shutting down NASA because they're worried about you getting the flu. That shit is not happening. That's not what's going on. But I think everybody's starting to realize that. Dude, I went to the post office. Have you been to the post office recently? I have not.

Okay. Not since I voted. Those last time I was at the post office. Okay. Well, it's over. So if you want to know what the post office is like, dude, I'm not even joking, I went into the closest branch near me in Nashville. There was two birds. There was two crows in there.

One of them was a crow, definitely. One of them was a pretty big bird, and I thought it was a crow, but he had some discoloration or whatever. So maybe like a mulatto crow or mixed crow or something. I don't know. Pulling a fucking box, like fighting over a fucking box in there. And there's a lady, kind of like a darker woman in there. And she's spraying fucking Lysol trying to get them out of the fucking post office. I was like...

Lysol. Yeah, or like a fabuloso, like a cleaning spray, like a disinfectant. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like she's standing on a little step ladder trying to fucking get these two birds who were fighting over a fucking package. I was like, we're fucked. We're fucked, man. And that's, that's the government, right?

That's biblical. Yeah, I mean, it seems like a Stephen King outtake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm like, this is where we are. This is, this is how, like, everything's privatized now. It's a rap. Mm. Do you feel like it's a rap?

Like, I've been thinking for years that America just feels like a shell company, like a shell LLC. Here's the thing about it being privatized. Some things probably should be privatized because they work better. Okay, well, like FedEx came along. Right. So those came along. But the post office still does a good job, man. No.

I'm going to disagree with that. I'm sorry. I've never disagreed with you, I don't think. The post office is. The only people that are sending letters for you for like 30 cents or whatever it costs. And then the post office are the only way that you could ship chickens, live chicks, like little baby chicks. They have to do it through the post office because they know what to do and they keep them alive. They know their chicks.

Ooh, that's nice. I didn't know that. All the, we've had chickens, you know, and every chicken we can't when we get them, their baby chicks. And they come to mail? They get them through the post office. Post office delivers them. Can you hear the package like that? It's like...

Yeah, bro, the post office, it works. It's not perfect because it's the government. And there's no government programs that are perfect, you know. It doesn't work that good anymore, though. I think it's gotten so bad, dude. The post office is... Maybe. Bro, it's gotten bad.

I sent my niece a birthday card, dude. She never got it. She never got it. It had money. It's gone. It's gone. She'll never get it. Bro, you know what always kills me?

Nobody's getting anything. The videos of these people dropping off UPS packages. They take a picture of the package and then they steal the package. I've seen that. I've seen videos of that. I think people are kind of hip to what ring cameras could do. But, bro, there's a little quiet. a while where people were doing some really

fucking horrible shit right in front of those cameras because they didn't know. They didn't know. You can't be just stealing people's packages after you drop them off. Like the fucking UPS driver? You know? It's a fucking wild time. Like a lot of videos of that man. They put them down, take a picture, and then they

pick them up, take them back to their truck. And take it back. And then the camera's like, hey, fuckface. Yeah. Hey, motherfucker. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Visible. plan's as good as visible, you've got to tell your people. It's the ultimate wireless hack to save money and still get great coverage and a reliable connection. Get one-line wireless

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Listen, Matt. They should have different, like, ring camera, like a voice like, this is Mr. T. You need to bring that package back, sucker. That is one of the dirtiest things. porch pirates, people that are just stealing shit off your porch. To get that close to somebody's house to be right there. That's one thing I like about living in a state where there is the ability to express something. You're talking about guns.

Bullittarily, that's all I like to say it. There's the ability to express something bulleterally to somebody if you disagree, if their behavior is illegal. Yeah. You got to be careful about that, though. The laws are different in different places. Like even if someone's stealing something, you're not allowed to kill them. A guy just got in trouble because some dudes, I think there was three dudes broke into his garage and he went into his garage and they went after him and he shot them and he killed one of them. And now they're bringing him up for manslaughter.

Because I guess they're saying he didn't have to shoot them. He could have just scared them or he didn't have to kill them. He could have just retreated back into his home. Like, in California, they're literally trying you. Like a, I was just scared them with a gun, I guess. I guess, but like, you don't know what they have. You don't know what's going on. These are split-second decisions you're making with your life in danger.

And then if you have a wife and children, bro, you're going to shoot first and ask questions later. You're not going to make a mistake that's going to have your kids killed. It's scary. Are you scared or what? You can't say that kind of shit. No, bro, it's scary. Someone's breaking into your home. You have no idea what they have.

You have no idea if they're there to kill. you, if you know how they're to rob you, if they're going to duct tape you and torture you for a week. You don't know what the fuck is going on. And if you have a gun, you're most likely going to use it and you're going to shoot them. And the fact that these people broke into his house, they were committing a crime in defending his property and maybe his life, he's getting charged with manslaughter? That's ridiculous. This is the problem with liberal politics. And this is where I get really confused because I'm like, I don't know what they're trying to do. But if I was going to try to destroy civilization, that's how I would do it.

Yeah. I would keep letting violent people out, keep saying it's racist to keep them in jail, keep saying, you know, they're a victim of systematic racism, and just like let the violent people stay being violent. And then when people defend themselves, lock them up, have everybody scared. Like, if you wanted to destroy society, you would do it exactly this way. And I don't understand that. I don't understand. Like, it's, I understand being a kind, passionate person doesn't believe in gun violence. Absolutely. But if that's the case, like, there's no better deterrent to gun violence than someone who has a gun and you can't get to their house because they'll fucking shoot you. Okay? Like, that's a really good deterrent.

Unless you're going to have police everywhere and you don't. So, like, who's going to protect people from bad people? If you're going to admit that bad people exist, if you want to stop bad people from happening, that's a conversation I'd love to have. That's a real conversation. Like, Let's figure out how to clean up a lot of these neighborhoods and figure out what's causing all these problems. Nobody wants to do that or it would have been done by now at this point. People just want to kind of keep these higher powers. They know what they're doing. It just starts to feel like the experiment, like we're just really seeing the experiment, you know?

It's almost like say you were playing the game Mario or something. Right. And one day Mario, instead of just going this way on the screen, he fucking turns and looks at you. And he's like, I see what you're doing. that's what it feels like we are right now like we're looking right at the people controlling everything and be like yeah oh that's all because of the internet dog but it feels like it wasn't for the internet no one would be looking

because we wouldn't be getting these conversations right we'd still be we'd still be people would still be disillusioned you'd be getting CNN you'd be getting some horseshit version of what's actually going on but because of the internet and real independent journalists and people that have breaking things down you start to go wait a minute what the fuck is going on yeah who is what who is doing this why you doing it want some coffee dog can have some fuck yeah of course you can oh thanks buddy um yeah man i mean we're the first generation that has had cheers my brother cheers man good to see you dude really i'm excited

to see you really i'm excited to see you too always and i'm excited to see you a little clear than i don't think you are i think it's i think they got you i think they're fucking with man. I think they're giving you placebos too. Oh, yeah, really? Yeah, I think they give you a let me take some whatever pills they give you. Let's see what happens. No, these are 15s, I think. These are good. Fifteen's. What does that mean? I don't know.

Bro. He fogged up. He flogged up from the coffee, got you. Well, he fucking gave me this molten coffee, dude. A black rifle in the house. Is it? Always. That's all we drink. Dude, I went, uh... Oh, yeah, well, there's, yeah. I'm just at the journalism now. I can't, I know this is too hot for me right now. It's not that hot.

I'm gonna need glasses for my tongue after I drink this, dude. No, it isn't? No, no, it's an illusion. It's warm. It's decently hot, you know? It's nice, nice. Yeah, refreshing. Yeah, like, refreshing.

Not like, ouchy. Why can't Starbucks figure that out? Because I don't even think it's coffee anymore. It's almost become like McDonald's. It's just a... It's burnt. It's a taste. It's just a thing.

I drink black coffee. That's what I drink. That's what I like. I got into it a while ago, like years ago. Like my shit, like Rick Ross, bro. You know what I got into it, Jamie? Remember when we had that guy, Peter Giuliani on that was the coffee connoisseur? That got me into, I started drinking black coffee from then on.

That was a long time ago, at least 10 years ago, right? I had a real coffee connoisseur on. Yeah? Because I wanted to know all about coffee. Like a sommelier kind of? Yeah, man, dude, he brought in a bunch of different coffees. We were tasting like these Ethiopian blends that almost was like lemony. He was like, you taste the hints of lemon.

I'm like, I do. Do you know all coffee comes from Ethiopia? Uh-uh. Yes. Some of it comes, I know, from, there's Kona coffee, isn't there? Right. But it all originated in Ethiopia. That's where the plant originated.

Oh, wow. Yeah, so they moved it into South America. So, like, they started making it in Colombia. They make it in Hawaii has bomb-diggity coffee. Kona coffee is some of the best coffee in the world. I guess probably the soil, like something about the Hawaiian volcanic. If I fucking drink my own piss in Hawaii, I'm still, it's a little better than if I'm drinking it and fucking outside of that. You know what I'm going to do.

That's an acrid. Smoke snacks in the background. You had to drink a liter of piss before you get in the sauna with your neighbor. Before I get a little bag for my... Someone's got a urine therapy protocol that you have to take with your cocaine. Dude, yeah. Bro, even a hot batch of piss in Hawaii tastes way better. That's so true.

But I drink it in America. Like, I used to order Kona coffee. Yeah. Before I went Black Rifle exclusive. Yeah. Well, I met the guy from Black Rifle. Evan is a good friend of mine nice guy I love him to death yeah he took me around whenever whenever I was there he's one of my absolute favorite people oh I'm wearing one of

his shirts look at that dog he treating me super well dude he's the best dude somebody oh Candace Owen sent me that thing it was um you got notes she sent I just you brought notes there's things I wanted to talk about I so I forget him okay my my my my it's been hard for me to remember stuff okay so I'll help you out you will yeah yeah yeah he gets some alpha brain. Take some, have you ever? Do you ever take vitamins for your brain? No. It works. I will take some. Yeah. There's a bunch of different kinds. You should try what you like. Um, but another real good one is, um, this company, uh, neuro gum. They make neuro gum and neuromints. I've heard you talk about it. That's really good. There's a one called true brain.

They make a like a little shot. That's really good. Magic Mind I know has one that I think is pretty good. That's a different one. That's a different kind. They use mushrooms, but that's a good one too. I think synergistically, they would all work well together, but there's legit vitamins that work on your brain. Yeah. Yeah, that work on your memory. Yeah, I want to, yeah, I'll probably, I would like to try it. I'll give you some before we leave. I have some alpha brain black label around here somewhere.

I definitely have a few bottles in the kitchen, but that's the best. Alpha brain, I'm trying them all, even though I know I'm associated with on it, and I'm probably lying. I'm not. I tell you about all the other ones, I don't make a penny off of them. But Alpha Brain, I think, is the best one. It's the most effective. And it's the only one that I know of that did two double-blind placebo-controlled studies

with the Boston Center for Memory. Alpha Brain? Yeah. So we did that because a lot of people were saying it was snake oil. The Boston Center for Memory, like, how many Heston, Eucluse have? Hey, buddy. In 2001, you know?

What year did the socks make it into the series? Dude, one time I was going into a show, we were outside of Baltimore. We had a show outside of Boston. It's like a theater. It's like 15, 20 minutes away. And I'm walking in. I'm walking in late.

Everybody's already in there. I think the show started, so I'm coming in. And a guy and his wife were walking by with pizza. They're heading in. And the guy's like, Dorothy, give him your fucking pizza. The guy's starving. He's late for work. And I'm like, I'm fine.

And first of all, one of you just give me your pizza, dude. He's like, Dorothy. This kind of like kind of big back lady, she said that is muffling down a piece of pizza, dude. He was trying to get you to give her pizza? His wife to give me her pizza. But not his pizza. Yeah. Interesting.

That's a bad relationship. He's like, Dorothy, can't you see the guys? He's running late for work. He's trying to tell his wife he's fat and he's doing it a subtle way. Well, he was using me. I'm like, Dorothy, I'm fine, you know? Yeah, he was using you. But it was just like just Boston thing.

Or he was just trying to have some conversation. It might have been that. Maybe we're looking into it too much. Dude, I had a dream you were in EMT, dude. Have you ever had that? Really? You had a dream I was in EMT? Yeah, and I've had it two times.

Really? I was like tending to car. accidents and stuff? Yeah. Really? And I think it was in Boston. I think it's what it even made me think about it. I could have gone down that route in life maybe if things had been different.

That's possible. I could have seen that. I could have happened. I almost joined the Army when I was 18 for their Taekwondo team. There was a dude, God, I think his name was Clay Barber. He was one of the national competitors that I looked up to when I was on my way up. And he was in the Army. And he had, like, the Army paid him to train.

And I was like, oh, shit, you could join the Army and they'll pay you to compete, you know, because they had an Army boxing team. Like, I believe Ray Mercer was on the Army boxing team when he fought in the Olympics and won the gold medal. Do you have to be, but do you also have, like, do you have to do service as well? Is this, Jamie? Is that him? No, he was a black guy. Oh, there's a see the Taekwondo? So he says right there to the right? Yeah, the one with the right where it says his name, right there.

Click on that. The one that your cursor's over, dog. Clay Barber, right there. Yeah. So he was really good in like, I guess it was probably like 86 or, yeah, somewhere around I was 18, so it had to be 85 or 86. Ooh, baby girl. But that's the dude right there. He was an elite national competitor in my weight class.

He'll kick a fucking whisper out of your mouth. That dude's a gangster, huh? Yeah, he was really good. but he was competing for the army team and so I was like maybe I should join the army and then I thought about it I was like I don't want to get shot like what am I doing like I don't trust anybody did you even try on the clothes at home or anything

or did you do anything no I didn't try the clothes I saluted in the mirror a couple of times I'm like no we're good yeah dude yeah I guess I don't know if I could see you be in the in the army but yeah it was just a dream it was just I think it was like you and Goggins I think we're maybe like EMTs or whatever

that sounds like something Goggins would do but y'all did not fucking You guys did not deal with anybody's bullshit Like you guys showed up You were like, get the fuck up You're like, what the fuck your fucking pussy I don't even think you had any like I don't think you had even a step that

You had like a whistle You're like bullshit You know what Gagins does A lot of people don't know about He smoke jumps Oh really? Yeah Like for

I used to smoke and play high school basketball That's very different It's very different He parachutes into fire Oh yeah, that's not it Like in Canada For fun? Because it's hard

Oh Literally Because it's hard to do Dude's worth like 30 million dollars He jumps out of fucking planes With parachutes And he sent me a photo Of a giant ass fucking grizzly track

They landed in Canada at this place And right where they landed To fight these fires I mean like a grizzly track And he was like Wish me luck I was like, dude, get the fuck out of there. Have you seen that track?

Get the fuck out of there. That's an 1,100 pound wild dog. Wow. And he just does it because he wants the- Because it's hard to do. You're laying just in smoke. Yeah. Now, when you get in there, do they have a plan of where you're going?

Is it firemen and fire women in there? Well, there's a lot of different tasks that they do, but one of them is you're digging a firebreak. So a lot of what happens is embers land on the ground. and then that starts a fire, right? So what they do is they'll clear the ground for a wide area where the fire is coming. So the fire's on its way. They'll get ahead of the fire

and then they'll clear a giant path on the ground. Oh, baby, girl, that would scare me. It's scary. That would scare me. Guys die. I mean, they 100% they get trapped and they die. Yeah, I'm sure. The wind shifts.

You know, sometimes things are unpredictable, but he does it just because it's hard. He's so crazy. Does he have to sign a con? He must have to sign something, huh? Bro, I don't know what he does. I bet he doesn't even tell him he's David Gagins. He just shows up.

I'm telling you, man, he's a different cat. Like, he's the real deal. Like, he's not pretending to do all these things. Right. You've seen those videos where he takes UFC fighters on workouts and they're dying? Like, he took Israel out of Sanya. Israel out of Sanya. Two-time, middleweight, motherfucker champion of the world, one of the best to ever do it, elite athlete.

Dying I mean I couldn't keep up Gagins was talking to him like come on son keep going He's like he's throwing up in a garbage can like no bullshit. It's crazy to watch because you realize like the level of conditioning this guy has Yeah, he's 50 years old. He's not doing it for any reason like he's not getting ready for the world series He's not in the Super Bowl. What do you think he's proving it to himself? You'd have to ask him. I mean he says he's learning things and I'm downloading lessons. Like, yeah. He's just, he's that guy, man.

Like, there's a lot of, what is that? I found the tracks, sorry. What is it? The tracks, the Grizzly tracks. Oh, show me, show me. I sent it to you, right? Yeah, put your headphones on. All right.

Check this out. Show me, show me, show me what is. Remember that song? Yeah. The one that makes me scream. Yeah. Yeah. The cure.

The cure, yeah. They were good. They passed away, huh? Did they? I think before they, yeah. I don't think, well, there's multiple members. Did that guy pass away? The leedsering in the cures?

The cure, rather. What's it out, Jamie? Well, I had it on my phone. I didn't have it on my computer. Oh, that's right? Yeah, and I... You jumped the gun. Why don't you send it to me and I'll send it to you?

You'll have it on your computer. Dude, if you were in EMT, that'd be sick, huh? I think it's a... bummer man. I don't even think you'd get out of the vehicle you'd pull up, be like, get the fuck up. I know. I'd probably be real sad. And the Guggins would go help him?

Gagons would be like, get the fuck up, your little pussy. Just send it to me and I'll send it to you. I have it. I just can't make it bigger. Here it is. That's good. Give me some volume. Look at that. See these grizzly bear prince, man? Look at these motherfuckers

Dude as big as my foot This is a massive Fucking grizzly bear Look at that dude Massive fucking grizzly bear Look at that paw That's crazy O

This is fucking a massive ass grizzly bear And as you see Where's it going? He walks right through there To those woods Probably over the mountain We are in big time

Grizzly bear territory bro that's so sketchy that's cool that's so sketchy he sent me that yeah because i was like what are you doing he sends me that this is what i'm doing other people are like i'm watching football right yeah he's like i just fucking parachuted into grizzly country oh man there's nothing scarier than big we know you love the thought of a vacation to europe but this time Why not look a little further to Dubai, a city that everyone talks about and has absolutely everything you could want from a vacation destination. From world-class hotels, record-breaking skyscrapers, and epic desert adventures, to museums that showcase the future, not just the past. Choose from 14 flights per week between Canada and Dubai. Book on emirates.ca. today.

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Yeah, and then like, is your mom home and be like, no? And they were like, well, I'm a pedophile. You're like, well, that's a problem. Yeah, come back after six, you know. But so it was just crazy. Like, you know, but then at least you did know who the people were. But it was definitely weird that you're setting, and they don't live in nice neighborhoods. You know, like now there's a lot of like billionaire pedophiles that our government protects and stuff.

But back then. You really think so? I don't know. I don't know either. That's what makes me nervous. I don't know. I mean, they just had that thing that came out about the Trump Epstein thing the other day. That whole thing is just a kickball at this point, I feel like.

Bro, have you ever seen that video of me and Tim Dillon where Tim Dillon is laying out the scandal that took place in like, was it the 1970s, Jamie? The Franklin Scandal? What year was that? Bro. We all dressed up like astronauts or? Was that that one? Me and Tim Dillon? No.

No, we were dressed normal. Okay. I don't even think he had the crazy glasses on back then. That was before he was protecting his eyes. Now he protects his eyes. 88. Play that video. I sent it to you, right?

This video is nuts, man. This was Tim laid this out quite a while ago, and I kind of forgot about it until it popped up on my feet. I was like, oh, shit. And then I said, I could send it back to you. Thank God for Tim Dillon. Oh my God, he's the best. There's never been a better ranter ever in the history of ranting.

Ever. Ever. Send two. I bet there was somebody a long time ago that was good, but we don't have enough of his work to really compete against Tim. He's the funniest, by far. He's the most sarcastic, the most tongue-in-cheek, and the most well-read. Yes. The thing about Tim Dillon is, like, he doesn't just go with narratives because he thinks that you want him to say certain things.

You know what I mean? Like, he's very, very well-read. And he forms his opinions based on facts and then turns it into humor. Yeah. He's the fucking man. Play this. It was a scandal out of Omaha, Nebraska, a Franklin Credit Union, where there was a guy who was embezzling money and then he was being investigated for that, but they said he's old, he has all this money

because he's running an interstate pedophile network, and he's pandering kids to, you know, people in Washington, D.C., in New York, and there was a headline in the Washington Post of the Washington Times that were like, Colboys get a tour of the Reagan White House. Unidentified White House aides in the Carter, Reagan, and Bush administrations now are being investigated for using the services of a callboy ring. The paper reports that two of the male prostitutes were given a late-night tour of the White House last year. and you know this was a scandal with real victims who wanted to testify and that people started dying you know the private investigator they hired his plane broke up one of the girls that testified was found guilty of perjury and that she was put in solitary confinement they had to use two grand juries in omaha to get rid of this scandal and it's one of now it's not as sexy as like a pizza gate or something because it's happened in the 80s and 90s but this shows you the blueprint for the government you know using marshalling resources you

to silence people that were victims of this stuff. This is not new, congressmen, senators, blackmail being used by intelligence agencies. None of it's new. It was pioneered by the mafia. You're having sex with somebody who's underage. Then they own you forever. If they have photo, audio, video of you doing that. Wild.

Wild. So if that existed at all in the 1990s, okay? That Mitch McConnell guy was around back then, you know? A lot of these Nancy Pelosi type people, they've been around since. This is there's photos of Nancy Pelosi with JFK. Think of that. That was before we didn't go to the moon. Yeah.

It was 1963. That was before Israel didn't kill him. He thinks so? I didn't say anything. I heard you say Israel killed him. You did? That's what I heard. Jamie, did you put something in this?

They didn't do it. Oh, before Israel didn't do it. Oh, I see what you did. I think... I didn't say anything. I think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Lee Harvey Oswald went to my middle school. Do you know that?

No. Yep. What? No shit. Was there a plaque? No, we did have a thing. There was a thing. Let everybody recognized.

L.H.O. Yeah. L.H.O. That's what you guys called them? Yeah. Like L. Ron Hubbard? L.HR. They all salute El Ron Hubbard, salute LHR with the big.

Ever seen Tom Cruise with a big pie plate metal? He got a medal for being the most awesome guy ever. He did? Yeah, from Scientology. And he salutes the photo of a science fiction writer. Bro, it's the cookies thing. A pie plate? Bro.

They, have you even looking at dessert? Scientology awards? Nuh. They're amazing. I can see him eating a lot of desserts, really. They're amazing. I didn't even know that. Look at that pie plate.

Look at the times. Look at this. These are the times we will all remember. Were you there? What did you do? I think you know that I am there for you. And I do care so very, very, very much. What is this about?

Is this a Marie Callender's ad? Bro, what this is is amazing. Just watch this. Okay, sorry. Because we're counting on you. All right? To LRH. To LRH.

Wow. Crazy, right? Bro, you want a Mission Impossible guy? You want that guy? That's what you get. Okay, you don't get a normal dude who's that good at acting. You get a fucking crazy person.

Who's that good at being himself? With a pie plate around his neck. Golden pie plate for being the most awesome guy ever. And he salutes a science fiction author, who's, by the way, one of the worst writers in the history of writing. Elron? I've done the thing in New York

where they try to electrocute you and see if you care about him or whatever. You don't talking about? I did that in San Diego. You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When? I was filming a TV show down there.

And, you know, we were in the middle of a break while we're filming. And they had, like, a conference table set up. It was, like, free personality test. And I was like, what is this? And I kind of knew what it was. I knew it was dietetics, you know, which is Scientology. But the guy was like, they made him do it. You could tell he was, like, non-enthusiastic at all about it.

You know, he would, like, ask you questions about, like, has one of your pets died? Like, that kind of shit? He'd hold his e-meter, and it would decide. I'm like, how's this work? Like, what is actually making this happen? You know, I had all these questions that he had no answers for. And then I started. Of course you did.

That's your whole life. Elvron Hubbard wrote more fiction. Yeah. Than any human being that's ever lived. He wrote more things that were not true. More published fiction than any human being in the history of all human beings. That guy, the guy that could. He created Scientology.

And you know how he did it? It was all terrible. He never wrote a second draft. Everything was just nonsense. One hit wonder? One hit wonder. Just start typing. Brave, though.

He was nuts. He was out of his mind. But people liked it enough, though. Did you ever see that show? They didn't, though. He wasn't successful until he really started. I mean, he was. He did a lot of those, like, goofy magazines and stuff.

This is a long time ago. You better realize. But then once he started a religion, that's when things took off. That's when, like, started making money, he gave himself a lot of, he gave himself a bunch of awards, too. He ever see it like he had, oh, he wore a jacket, and he had, like, all these awards on his chest that he had given himself. That's crazy. They love to give awards over there.

That's like the Golden Globes or whatever. Yeah, same thing. You know? It really is. They give themselves awards for being the most awesome people. How, I mean, that whole, it's all fucking ridiculous. Weird. But that's what I feel.

I feel like all of these. balls of yarn that used to feel like they made so much sense and they kept us warm and they gave us sense of purpose. I feel like all of them are becoming unraveled, but it makes me wonder what's going to happen now or we, because these are a lot of things that it felt like some of the blueprints of our existence, you know? You know what makes me nervous. Does it make any sense to you when I say that? Yes, 100%. Because that's kind of what I guess I'm most scared about. I think like even this year, it's like some of my sense of like purpose or like I just worry that other people don't have a sense of purpose or what's going on and it makes me kind of

scared sometimes. Well, that's a good perspective and I think it's accurate. What makes me nervous is the people that are not aware that all of our assumptions of how the government works, we're all based on bullshit. The people that still believe that are like true believers of one side or the other true faith in government and experts, those people make me more nervous. Because some of them are smart. That's what's crazy. When smart people are completely unwilling to recognize that conspiracies are not just real, but they're also not rare. They're very common. They're common and people get away with them, especially when they're in positions of extreme

power, like running intelligence agencies. And there's a lot of things that they do that are morally reprehensible, but totally legal. Like, they could do it because they're allowed to because they are a three-letter organization and they have ultimate power to do a lot of, like, really gross things that are in the nature or in the interest of national security. So, like, this is the whole idea of finding this is our decision. This is the best move for national security. This is how we compromise assets. This is how we gather information.

It's how we keep America safe. But they're not, why is it our FBI and CIA are working against us? That's what it feels like. They're just tricking us about everything. It feels like. You're tricking some people on purpose, right? Why is that even their goal? Like, I thought that they...

Because they're trying to arrest people. So this is the problem with your career. Like, and this has been explained to me by a lot of people that are experts and people that know. John Carrickow explained it this way. Your reputation is based on how successful you have been arresting people, cracking cases. And so people set up cases so they can break them. They basically set up an escape room and they're like, I don't know how to get out of here. And they pretend that they're just like a regular wizard that stumbled into the escape room.

No, you set the whole thing up. Yeah, that's what it is. Well, it's the same as like... There's a bunch of those stories. Oh, I think it's the same as even with like Hollywood. And, you know, I remember one day I was walking in the Century City Mall over there, it in Los Angeles. It's off of Santa Monica Boulevard.

And there was a, like a blue collar guy walking by. He had him like, he was working construction. They were building something there. And I was like, he was like, he's a... Theo, what's up, man? So we're talking for a minute. I was like, what are y'all building? He's like, dude, you're never going to believe this.

We're building. He's like, 10 floors, 20th floor building. He's like, 10 floors are a talent agency and the other 10 floors are for the CIA. And I was like, what? I was like, just in the same building just happened to be, that's what you're building. He's like, yep, that's what we're building. And he wasn't lying. I don't think he was lying to me.

It just seemed like a, it was just like. It's weird mixture. Yeah. Right. But I think that this starts to happen. News stories get created, right? Things get, whether they're fictional, whatever it goes on. You don't even know a lot of times what's news stories.

You can send actors out to create a scene. You see a video, you believe it. And then they make movies. That's been done before. Right. That's been done before. Oh, yeah. There was, but then you see movies and stuff come out later about it.

So it's like you're almost creating your own news to then make like a based on a real story. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Like it's all to say. I guess. Yeah. Like they let the talent. They just need to know that they're about to do this so you can start casting the dramatic.

It makes sense because it's like then you're just your, oh, God. But it's just like, what do we do, you know? Well, they've been doing this forever. They've been doing this forever. Yeah. And, you know, they've been shaping our views of war. And, you know, that's one of the reasons why they started making all these war movies. Do you know that?

Okay. So in World War I, one of the problems that they had was people didn't want to be over there killing people. And so people were shooting, but they weren't shooting at the actual enemy. They would, like, shoot over their heads or shoot to the left of them and to the right to them. They didn't want to kill people. And they realized, like, that you take people, just regular people from the city and from the farm and put them in a uniform and tell them they have to go kill people. This is no YouTube back then, no television back then, right? So their ideas of what's right and wrong are all based on their life.

Yeah. Like their actual life. And so then they realize, well, we've got to do something about that. And so after that, they started creating all these really patriotic war movies where the guys are heroes. They go over and they shoot all the bad guys and then they're awesome. So then the next group of people that go to war are all going to be indoctrinated with these films. And these films are that America's the best and we're number one and we're going to go over there. And this is how you get all the girls.

You'd be a fucking hero and go over there and shoot those Germans. Yeah, and come back and play with a tin. Yeah, exactly. Come back and get ridden like a fucking cowboy. Yeah, woo. Tits will be here when you get off the boat. Yeah. Baby girl.

And that's what they did. I can see that. And I mean... Makes sense. For sure. Because it's also... You're advertising. The CIA and, you know, various federal organizations have a say in how America's portrayed in movies, right?

It's like, if you're going to get access to... If you're going to do some film on, you know, the Pentagon or something like that, you bitch this better be make us look good you know they're not going to let you make them look like a bunch of bumbling fucking retard that are just doing it for their career no you better make us look good you can't fake what the pentagon is bitch you know and you're like okay sir tell me how you'd like mr cruz to talk about his work and you know you'd make them look like the most awesome human beings that've ever been so that way you like you want to support them you want to fund them and you want to listen to them when they're talking on the news well

in a lot of like the projects i think they have to have people from these organizations that come and like oversee how the organization is presented right yeah so it's like if you want to do something where the navy's involved you have to have people there from the navy that are like overseeing it and making sure that everything is presented um to you know to be true to the navy but also like there could be maybe some minute manipulation there but we just had gary senes was on the podcast man it was really cool oh he's cool dude if you ever want to donate to something or people do man it was just an impression impressive, his whole organization. What is he doing? Well, he does a lot of stuff for veterans, right? He does a lot of stuff for first responders, you know, or EMTs. He does a lot of stuff for, he does this thing where they take kids who have lost a fan of parent to the, in military action. He takes him to Disney World every year, like this big group of them, you know.

but just like really like does it you know like he's a band that plays he there's a bunch of organizations he was like one of the first responders of um out there feeding people uh feeding the first responders who were there at the palisades when that happened just like a lot of neat stuff you know big heart did you ever think you'd be in the position you're in where you just having all these weird conversations with interesting people because this is not like no when i first met you I would have never suspected that this would be a path that you would go down. Yeah, not at all. You know, it's interesting that you went down that.

Like, what led you to want to start doing that? Well, I think a couple of things. I think, well, I think I didn't know I was kind of competitive in some ways, you know? Like, I think I'm kind of competitive. Like, I want to see what's possible that's maybe inside of me, you know? So competitive with yourself? or competitive with other people that are also doing it?

Just competitive because I think I there was, I felt like maybe some people thought this thing like, oh, this guy can't do it. Oh, interesting. I don't think that's, I think there were some people that are maybe like, oh, I'm surprised that this guy enjoys this or likes doing it. But I think there was like,

yeah, this guy can't do it. And I just never had a voice when I was a kid, you know? I never had a voice. Right. You know, so much of my child, I think I just couldn't even speak up for myself. I didn't even know what I wanted to say. I didn't even know what my feelings were, right? I just I was just like this. It just felt tough, you know? And so I think when, yeah, when I started to kind of get into podcast and have a little bit more of a voice and then to get to talk to some people that I that I felt like were important that weren't getting voices, like even like we had a doctor from Gaza on last year or this year. And, and, that was like a moment for me. I was like, oh, this is important stuff. You know, like other people aren't putting this voice out there, right? Some people are, but like the mainstream media, I don't

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that are in their car for hours every day they're on the train for hours every day they're in the gym they're doing different stuff where they want to listen to things or when they come home they don't want to watch late night TV they want to watch an interesting conversation you know yeah that just they didn't know that that was a thing that's all that was we snuck in I think we snuck in I think they had no idea they thought this was just shitty radio yeah you know and I think my whole life I think people looked at me and thought all this dude's just fucking shitty radio but but in the beginning in a way you know well I think like when was the first time my show I mean look I mean look I feel lucky to have a show we work hard, you know, with podcasting.

I feel lucky to get to talk to a lot of people. I don't think we do a lot of information type of stuff, you know, and I wish we could do better with that sometimes. I think maybe that's a goal of mine next year is to try to learn more stuff just in the day-to-day so I can have conversations that are maybe more important. But then also maybe that's not what I'm supposed to do, and I'm just supposed to be just having conversations that are fun. And so it's what you're supposed to do if that's what you want to do.

But what I think is the only important thing, the only important thing. Is what you want to do? Yeah. Yeah. And to be genuinely curious about whatever you're talking about. I agree. You know, and then hopefully be talking to someone who's telling the truth. That's where it gets weird.

Now, sometimes people will be charismatic and they'll be very persuasive, but it turns out they have an agenda and they're not telling the truth. And you might not know that. That becomes a problem. Yeah, I realize that. Some people are taking advantage of the fact that I, that's been. they'll come on and I sometimes have been a little bit naive to think that somebody would do that but people do do that oh 100% like heads of state you know like if you're going to have someone as a president of a country that's in the middle of a war and they want to come on your podcast and

talk you're not you're not you're not going to get anything objective you're going to get them selling that they're the good guys and uh that's weird that's a weird one because unless you're an absolute expert in what is going on in that region and you know exactly what's true and what's not and there's two very compelling and very loud narratives you know good luck good luck sorting out that conversation i'm not interested in having those conversations yeah but i am interested in having conversations with people that i that i think are intriguing you know that i think are being honest and uh whether i agree with them or not they're being honest and they're intriguing that's what i like yeah yeah and i think some of that is me learning a little bit more i mean i think i do like

having stuff where people have more feelings and their stories about stuff you know so that's something that i would maybe like to focus on more next year like people's genuine genuine human experiences you know like a guy or a woman or a kid somebody who's been through something you know wants to share some of that right so maybe that's something i'll try to get into a little bit more um i don't know but yeah i just feel lucky like my mom listens to my podcast every week you know and we never got to spend any time together when i was a kid so sometimes that kind of even keeps me going you know it's like she's like our biggest fan and so it's weird gonna make her proud yeah it was just so weird when i was a kid like she didn't have any time and then now she just like you know she loves them yeah

yeah yeah i think yeah i don't know and it's like just afforded me a lot of like just need opportunities yeah sometimes talking to people like we got to learn about like the health care last year and how you know a lot of these political parties have put forward these um like um like these presidential what's it called when they sign something like this is an order, like an executive order, right? That price transparency needs to happen with health care, right? And so that was something that I realized was super important to me because like Bernie Sanders agrees with it, Trump agrees with it, Thomas Massey agrees with it, Roe Con, agrees with it. There's all these people that say they agree with it. And everybody says, but it never really gets to where it needs to be, right?

So you can go to a place and a hospital can charge you anything for an MRI, right? They're supposed to show their prices like a menu, and if they do that, then they have to compete. You could call two places. This person's like, well, it's $30,000. And this person's like, no, it's $700. So you're going to go there. Right. But they keep it vague so they can keep the prices really high, and then they can keep this whole insurance rigmarole going on.

Well, they're private corporations. That's what's nuts. You know, the private companies own hospitals. They're private, you know. So that's probably why they can do it, too. hoping that they're there for your best interest. What they're there is to make the most money possible. And one of the ways they do that is they're incentivized to give you certain medications, financially, financially incentivized to give you certain pharmaceutical products and they make more money if they do that.

I had Mary Talley Bowden on the podcast. She's a respiratory physician. And she, doctor, whatever it is, she was saying that if she vaccinated all of her patients, she has a very small practice. she vaccinated all of her patients for COVID, she would have made $1.5 million. Wow. Like, that's motivation. Like, that's not. For sure.

Someone's not going to, they're not going to give you objective advice, unless they're a really good person like she is. They're not going to give you objective advice. What they're going to say is, hey, they say you should take it. I say you should take it too, because I want to go golfing. Yeah. I want a BMW and I want to go golfing, so take it. I don't care if you're in a fucking wheelchair in three weeks at a martyocarditis.

I want an M5. I've got it picked out already. I want the carbon interior. Carbon fiber accents. It's just, yeah. It's a trap. It's a trap. But learning about like that kind of stuff,

like things like that used to be like, oh, this is a little cause that like means something to me, you know? Because then you think there are people probably right now that are afraid to go get health care because then it messes up your credit, right? Like the number one cause of bankruptcy in America is medical debt. Yep. Yeah. I think that's crazy.

It's crazy. So now you're in debt and now the stress of that. It's like... Also, the problem is the system is so deeply intertwined in our society that to unwind it now and somehow or another start some sort of competent social medicine. But that's the other problem is socialized medicine has not been effective anywhere. Like everywhere else, like the difference between, it's really a difference. between money. Like if you have money in America and you break your leg, you can go to a really good doctor and you get your leg fixed. Break your leg. Right? If you have money, if you're using,

if you have socialized medicine and you're in England, for instance, I have a lot of friends in England that have, they use the socialized medicine there. They have it in Canada. Like my friend in Canada, it took her a year to get a knee reconstruction and they did a terrible job of it. They repaired her ACL and she's still, she's fucked. You can't fully straighten her leg out. Yeah, every time she fucking look, yeah, she just moonwalks everywhere. She's got a limp, a noticeable limp. And they just fucked it up. They did a shitty job.

And, you know, look, that could happen in America, too. But you could get an operation quicker here. But it's really just money. And the real problem with America is that you could have something really wrong with you and you have insurance. And then your insurance denies you coverage for what's wrong with you. Like Ben Ascran. You know the story with Ben Ascran?

I know he's been getting better, right? he's getting better, but he had a double lung transplant. He had lung, and the insurance didn't cover it. How, how could you not cover that? The guy gets sick. It turns out he's a very rare, I think it was like a staff infection or some kind of bacterial infection that was eating his lungs. So they had to put him on a respirator's on a respirator for a long time.

Then they had to give him a double lung transplant. And insurance companies didn't cover it. Yeah. It's like, what are you even there for? And then the stress, imagine his wife probably, or him, he is in and out of consciousness. He has to call them probably. And just the stress of like, we can't do it. Can you fill out these forms?

It's almost like they just want to kill you with the stress. It's just. They just want to spend the least amount of money possible and make the most amount of money possible. But when does it all end? There's something about United Healthcare that's attached to this government shutdown bill, too. The reason why they were shutting down the guy, there's something about the flow of money to United Healthcare, which is you know that company where that guy got assassinated everybody cheered because also because Luigi's kind of hot good looking guy I didn't I didn't see it you didn't see Luigi no I'm joking

I thought he's looking good I mean he's fine yeah I like I like women handsome hero yeah but still handsome guy I'm not saying you don't like women but you know I'm not saying you fuck alligators but you know one looks like yeah come on dog you're right about that's a good call hey I ain't gay but I'll hold it in my mouth you know if I told you it's an alligator You wouldn't be like, bro, I'm not gay. You would say, yes, it is an alligator. You know my buddy? Oh, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I'm saying Luigi's handsome, and you're like, I'm not gay. And I'm like, that's not what I asked. Right. I asked you if you can see things. Take those fucking shitty fake glasses off. Maybe you can tell Luigi's a handsome man. Helping or not.

You know, a lot of people think Luigi was like some M.K. Ultra thing. They tricked him and hypnotized him and got him to go in and shoot that guy. Well, I think there's a lot of that going on And yes, I did have dinner at Candace Someone's house recently So maybe You know, there's definitely You know, a lot of

Conspiratorial A lot of conspiratorial foods on the menu over there You know? I don't know if I'd say that I mean, they had like an unvaccinated quail With like an MRI demiglase So maybe, you know? Kind of, you think?

Brother, they're trying to vaccinate cows Do you know about that? They're trying to give cows MRNA vaccines. Are they really? Yeah. They're just trying to use the technology to make money If you really think they're doing it to protect the cows

You're out of your fucking mind Any of this stuff is just about money Cows are fine There's nothing wrong with the cows The cows are they even doing that then Let the cows eat grass They'll be even better That's what they're supposed to be eating

Let them all eat grass They'll be fine Occasionally some cows will get sick Bruselosis is real It's when bison's and cows intermingle You know, bison's give cows bruselosis And it kills a bunch of them But other than that

Fucking relax Yeah Relax. Well, it just never ends. It feels like there's everything. There's just always a problem with everything. I don't know. Maybe I'm tripping.

The worry that people have is that somehow I know that stuff's going to get into your food. Well, they're right, probably. Yeah. Yeah, they're right because they've already talked about somehow or another getting MRI vaccines into vegetables so that you wouldn't even have to get vaccinated. You can get it from your diet. They try to give me a tetan shot the other day. It doesn't even work. What, tetan shot?

No, the fucking MRI vaccines. You're putting it in food and it doesn't even work. Dude, I'm not taking it. It doesn't work when you take it. People aren't even taking it anymore and now you're trying to put it in food.

What are they putting it in? You said radish? Or what was it? Radishes? I don't know. They were trying to put it in vegetables. It's like, I mean, I think it's theoretical at this point, but I know Bill Gates was talking about it.

I just feel it's like, when does it end? Like, when is it like? It ends when they stop making money. As long as they can figure out a way to trick you into thinking that you need something or you know you're not going to make any money did you know that tetanus well you were talking about tetanus you know tetanus is a bacteria and it's extremely rare in america like very very very very few people ever get tetanus you think tetanus comes from a dirty nail it can step on a nail

no tetanus is a bacteria yeah and they and it can be cleaned out and also tetanus is the one of the rare vaccines that works as a prophylactic like after the fact like you could get step on a You don't have tetanus yet. They give you the tetanus vaccine after you stepped on the nail and it still protects you. No, it protects you. Right. So you don't need to take it. Tetanus is super rare in America.

It's not, you could completely fix it by cleaning out the wound. And if you get tetanus, they just inject you with the tetanus vaccine then. Like, there's no need to give tetanus shots to baby. Yeah, they were saying maybe you should get it. And I was like, I don't even know if I've had it, you know, but I don't want it. I don't want anything else. You probably had it when you were young. Yeah, yeah.

I think I had that, but like you should get it every 10 years. I'm like, I don't know. I don't care. I'll be fine. I'm okay. It's real common in other countries. Like, apparently it's, if you say the Congo? What tennis is?

Yeah. It's a bacteria. I didn't know it was a bacteria. I thought it was something you got from rusty nails. You know? But it makes sense if it's a vaccine that it's protecting you from something that's kind of alive. Like a virus is kind of alive, right? Like, they don't consider it a life form.

But, I mean, it seems like it spreads. It gets in a bunch of different people. It needs the person as a host. It seems like it's a kind of life. I mean... It's trying to consume you. It's trying to destroy your body and you're fighting it off. Yeah.

And it hops from you to your kids, to your neighbor to, you know, it's kind of alive and it kind of needs a person. If it's propagating, right? If it's spreading, like, what is it? A virus? Yeah, I mean, I don't think they consider viruses a life form, but it sounds a lot like a different kind of life form, like a parasitic life form. That's what it sounds like, doesn't it? I mean, I don't think they're saying that it's not. They're saying that it's bad, right, a virus?

No, I don't think they consider it a life form. Do they consider viruses a life form? Put that in perplexity. We have a sponsor. We have an AI sponsor. I use perplexity. Yeah, it's really good. But let's find out if they consider, put that shit in there.

Let's find out if they consider virus as a life form. Because I don't think they do. I think it's considered something different. Dude, I'm so... I'm so... Here we go. Is the virus considered a life form? Viruses generally not considered life forms by most biologists,

primarily because they cannot carry out the basic processes of life independently, such as metabolism, growth, or self-sustained reproduction without a host cell. However, this status is debatable. in scientific circles due to viruses' ability to carry genetic material, reproduce inside host cells, and evolve through natural selection. Ooh. Yeah, I'm with those folks. It's a life form. It's a weird life form.

And here's the crazy thing. If you think about it that way, then you've got to think about gain of function research. Gain of function research is like taking a grizzly bear and go, that grizzly bear should be on royds. And you take a grizzly bear and you jack them up on trend. and you give them testosterone and cocaine and then let them loose in the woods. That's what gain of function research is. And our government was funding that.

They were funding making more evil life forms. And that's where COVID-19 came from. It came from our tax dollars that goes off to this lab where they're working on making a life form more vicious to people. What did they want? It's a fucking weapon.

That's what I think. But then they just use it against us? Well, I think it got out. I don't think they tried to use it against us. That's what I think. But I think that they 100% are developing these things to dump them on other countries. That's a fact. They've always done that.

They've done tons of research that show that the United States has been involved in stuff like that forever. There was actually bio-weapons labs that were in Ukraine when the war broke out that the United States was somehow involved with. Put that in there. But put that in there. What bio-weapons labs was the United States involved with in Ukraine? Or how about this, instead of being leading? Were bio-weapons labs discovered in Ukraine? Baby girl.

Let's put that in first and see what it says. And then I'm going to ask it, where they funded by the United States? Can I see it? No bio-weapons labs have been discovered in Ukraine. to the United Nations, the U.S., Ukraine, and multiple independent experts, the allegations made by Russia and echoed by some Chinese officials involved claims that U.S.-funded laboratories involved in military biological activity were operating in Ukraine, but these claims have been consistently, have consistently been denied and refuted by international authorities.

That doesn't mean anything. Independent investigations and statements by the U.N. disarmament chief confirmed there is no evidence of a biological weapons program in Ukraine. Yeah. Okay. Are there any stories online about bio-weapons labs discovered in Ukraine? The allegations made by, yeah, but we don't know that that's true. So here's the thing. If the United States is running bio or funding bio-weapons labs in Ukraine, and it doesn't become a national news item, you think they're going to come up and say, you're right, we did it? No, they're not.

But if you're going to fund bio-weapons research in China and in a lot of other places, are there stories about the discovery? Let's see what it says here. Stories about the alleged discovery of bio-weapons labs in Ukraine have circulated widely, primarily promoted by Russian officials and state media. But these claims have not been substantiated by independent sources or international organizations, nor could they be. Like, what are you going to do? You're going to get in there and fucking rat everybody out in the middle of the war. They're going to kill you. Yeah, they wouldn't let that out.

Chinese foreign ministry and various conspiracy theorists have also amplified these stories, including claims of 26 bio-labs and illegal research discovered by Russian forces. I would hate to work at one of those places. Right. Yeah. Okay, here's a problem here right here. International news organizations and independent scientists, including the BBC and experts at King's College London, have reviewed the alleged evidence and found it lacking, noting that the pathogens and documents, cited by Russia are consistent with public health research, not weapons development. Okay, public health research is one of the ways that they do weapons development.

They do it under the guise of public health research. That's the whole original premise of gain of function research. We're doing this so that we can figure out how to heal people. And if these diseases do come our way, we know more about them because we've been researching them. Like, okay, so the problem with the BBC saying it, well, we just found out the BBC's full of shit. That whole thing with Trump where they took a speech and they edited it and put apart that's more than 50 minutes later in the sentence to end the sentence. Like they completely changed what he had to say. The head of BBC had to resign.

This is a giant scandal. So I don't trust that. But I don't know who's telling the truth or who's not because if I was Russia and I had invaded Ukraine, I would also say we found bio-weapons labs. And maybe there weren't any, you know? Maybe it is a lie. Well, it's the same with like the weapons of mass. It's all, it's like, it's just so hard to know what's real, you know, at our level of just like being a consumer. See if you can find online a story.

You can't. So we could pick apart the story that says Bio Weapons Labs found in Ukraine. It's tough to know who to trust. It's just tough to know where to trust things. So I think you just have to. True. But there's a fact that we have had bio weapons research and so has Russia. This is a story that I did when I did that show Joe Rogan questions everything.

I interviewed a guy who used to be a part of Russia's bio-weapons research program. And he explained to me how are they creating anthrax, and they had all these bio-weapons available. And I said, do you think that there's a possibility that they were making various infectious diseases? He said, absolutely, that was research that was being done. And then we went down to Galveston, Texas, and we went to one of those bio-research labs that they have in America, one of those giant crazy labs where everybody wears the hazmat suits and there's tubes that come off their suit

and they're working with like Ebola and all this like super... And his perspective was what he was worried about was not something made in a lab. What he's worried about is some sort of a natural jump that goes from animals to people

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I'd say this stuff is nothing. Don't worry about this. What I really worry about is chicken pox from chickens. Yeah. Is that the big thing now? I don't know. I just don't even know. I just don't even know.

It's like, I don't know if they'd want to want to. wipe us all out though because then there's nobody for these like dark lords to play with i feel like i don't think they want to wipe us all out but i think they want to keep us as controlled as possible as scared as possible do you see what they did in canada they just shot 300 ostrichs for no reason fuck that and Canadians dude who also have very good posture austria's probably great posture for bird would you say well they have that crazy neck right they have to have that posture otherwise it'll fall down still imagine if your neck was like three feet long that would be crazy best posture i've ever seen in the world

Toronto oh yeah if you had a fucking three-foot neck dude crazy like everywhere you go your neck's like a tail bro have you seen that if you seen those giraffes with a little neck what pulling bitches up cut oh I have seen that it's like a cousin of a giraffe it looks like an antelope it's like a giraffe yeah what it was called like Mexican giraffes or whatever no no no no they live in Africa or to eat her office whoa that's crazy show they want that oh look at that bro that's weird wait a minute is that that is that a lot that's AI dog that's what it looks like

the short next giraffe native this looks more fake really yeah that looks way fake they're wearing fucking bowler hats from no that's what they look like no I think that's genuinely what they look like that's the one right there's it that's that thug that's kind of how I'm built that is a weird giraffe man this is they're from Wakanda I don't know if that's

interesting oh from Wakanda so they're real that's that's definitely real everything is bro that's the thing you can't you can't tell there's no information anymore it's all just a blender of fucking who knows anything you put into TikTok the next story it's merged your last researches into a new into a new SORA is making new things that it looks so real it's just like I don't even know what if information even me it's just everything feels so bizarre you know

don't you feel like that uh-huh and it's getting weirder it's getting weirder and harder to tell what's true by the month it's getting weird and fast yeah it's getting it's getting very strange so you got to lock in I'm trying to think of the things that just even still feel real to me sometimes you know i think uh this is a real important time to minimize the amount of time you're online yeah this is uh as things get squirrelier and squirrelier check in every now and then but don't allow yourself to be looking at that goddamn thing all day yeah because that's part of what's wrong with us is we're staring at these goddamn things all day and they're just hypnotizing us with bullshit just at the end of the day you're confused aimless you go to sleep you feel

depressed you wake up in the morning you get up in the middle of the night to piss you're like what is life yeah you go back to bed you're like what am i doing yeah those things do that you take away those things and life is pretty normal yeah they are amplifiers of anxiety oh that's for sure for sure well it's even like um they had uh that like a lot of these shooters like people that have like you know these young guys who become what's it called when you see stuff online and it makes you more radicalized right how are some of these companies not legally liable like if you go to a restaurant right right um and somebody poisons you you could you could take something up with that restaurant right they poisoned a bunch of them able to sue the restaurant have some recourse against

that restaurant the food establishment but that but these these entities like these social media place like if they radicalize someone and they go shoot somebody or something there's no like accountability for the company you know what I'm saying well the company is not radicalizing people and I think it's a real danger what you're saying because you know what what you're saying is you're opening the door to censorship you're opening the door to the government saying we're here to protect you

so you can't talk about certain things because these things can radicalize you because anybody's definition of what radicalizes people is it's very variable right like during COVID I could have been considered someone who radicalizes people against taking a COVID vaccine

I could have been seen as a science denier and a dangerous person that has to be silenced. You have to remove them from public discourse. So what you're saying by people getting radicalized, who? That's the problem. Like, who's getting radicalized and who's doing it? And what is the real reason why you're getting radicalized? Well, because you don't know who the fuck you are.

So you can be getting radicalized for the better or for the worst, too. For sure. So you're just really getting educated, really. Look, there's people that get radicalized towards, you know, radical ideas of fitness and will and discipline. That's good point. You know, paying attention to Jocko every morning. There's, you can get, what is radicalized? You could be a radical, you could be into radical kindness.

You know, you get radicalized to just be kind to people. Yeah. It's all dependent upon what, what are you talking about and who's doing it. So why would the social media platform be in trouble for doing nothing other than giving people a voice? But the algorithm, is there an algorithm that is certain point? It's weird. So that's more what I mean then, is the algorithm, isn't there some liability? to an algorithm like a certain?

No, but here's the problem. The algorithm amplifies what you like. So you have to decide what you're looking at. Right. You have to have some personal responsibility because most of my algorithm, particularly like on YouTube, is all just stuff I like. It's all fun stuff. It's all interesting.

It's all ancient history stuff. You know, cool cars that people are building. That's it. That's most of it. Fights. Pool matches, professional pool matches. A lot of Muay Thai. It's all stuff I'm into.

It's nothing is... So, like, why is your algorithm fucked up? because that's the stuff you're clicking on all the time. And a lot of things, I don't know if you can do it on Instagram. Can you do it? Like, I don't like posts like this where you right click on things. Yeah, I think you can. But you can do it on Google News Feed.

You and I're not interested in these things. Like if it's a young person, is there any more, should there be anything? Like, I agree, there is a love. It's always personal responsibility. And I think we're probably in a space where more than ever, personal responsibility, it's going to start to thin the herd because it's like who can, you know, have like control over their own wherewithal, you know, and what they absorb. Well, we have to learn from other people's mistakes, right?

And we kind of are better at that than, like, okay, we're better at that as a society than say when societies, with alcohol, for instance, then a society where alcohol gets introduced into that society where they don't have a history of alcohol. Generally speaking, that destroys civilizations. You mean if a place does, like when they gave alcohol to those people? Like the Native Americans. It's a perfect example. Native Americans had no history of alcohol use.

United States troops came through, did two things. One killed 90% of them with disease. So 90% of the Native Americans died from disease because they were exposed to smallpox and all sorts of horrible shit that Europeans carried over with them. So 90% of them died from that. And then they got pushed into reservations. They got slaughtered by people with guns.

And they lost all their land. And then also they get introduced to alcohol. So both everything gets super depressing and you get introduced to alcohol. And that is devastating to a society. And to this day, reservations have very high rates of alcohol and drug abuse, very high rates on Native American reservations. Oh, yeah. But if you... They're really drinking over there.

But if you look at us, like regular people, like we're talking about alcohol today, right? We're talking about, I barely drink anymore. I'll have a drink every now and then, and I had one recently. But that's it. Like, you can, I know how to do that. I come from a culture of people who drank. It's common. You know, people drink wine with dinner.

It's common. It's normal. You can figure out how to regulate it for the most part. But there's people who won't, right? Yeah. But it's not as bad as when there's, no one knows what to do because you've never had it before. And then once you get it, you're, you're fucked. That's the problem also with censorship.

That's the problem with, like, Social media, like, we're the first people to get it. So we're, like, basically the Native Americans of social media. Like, we're getting it for the first time, and it's wrecking our society. Yeah. Not to the same level that it did in Native Americans, because it also carries a lot of positives. It does let you distribute information. You learn about things.

There's a lot of positives that come with social media. But also, we're the first people that don't know how to handle it. Yeah. The grandchildren and great-grandchildren of us, they will have a much better understanding of what not to do and what to do. Oh, I have an uncle who is an addict. He's a Twitter addict. He's a real problem. All he does is yell about politics.

He's on his phone 16 hours a day. He doesn't pay attention to his life. He's losing his job because he's a Twitter addict. There's people like that, just like these people that are drug addicts. But these are the first ones. Got it. I hadn't thought about it like that. Yeah, we've got to learn how to regulate.

And I think people are going to learn, like, a lot of kids are using apps now that limit the amount of time that they're on their social media for like one hour a day. Are they? You think a lot of these kids, I feel like they're doing that. Kids that want a better life. Yes. Kids that recognize that you can waste time and when you waste time over long, you know, like junior high school, into high school, you really start realizing it. And you see the difference to people who don't waste time and really get after it and get things done. And then you see the people that are falling by the wayside. And that's a pattern that establishes when you're a teenager, pretty much for the whole rest of your life.

You know, I knew people that were kind of near-do-wells in high school. school that really never got into anything and they never they never tried hard at anything and they stayed like that yeah i think it's hard to make a really it's hard to make a change in your life you know very hard um very very hard to make a change in how you see life yeah you know and then you're not going to change your life unless you change the way you see life yeah do you um let me think about something else sorry my brain sometimes gets hard to like keep going um with the fights man to get fun yeah yeah it's always fun mass square garden's crazy it's it's there's a few buildings in this world that have like a a tangible feel when you're when you're in them like who

this is the garden bro i've been there a ton of times i performed there it doesn't matter every time i go there when i walk into that building i'm like who we're at the fucking garden yeah better be on your peas and cues son we've got to be ready to go that's awesome i think fighters feel it too oh i'm sure extra amped to fight in the garden yeah dustin's that he went to watch the fights was there a lot of um was annick there yeah yeah i didn't get to watch yeah annick dc and me let's go and me

megan megan levy yeah oh she's the best she's the best how great is she she's how great is she her and her husband they're both joe salt of the earth the best the best they're whole i mean i will say this they have one of the best staffs of any sporting group i've ever been around in my life for sure yeah the ufc staff is very much like a family amber nico we all know each other so well we've I've hung out together so long. Everybody's all hugging everybody backstage.

It's a beautiful place to work. And Bruce is doing his stretches. There's so many little things going on. And you just get to see them all happening. It's always the same people, you know. And we travel around the world together. Well, I don't anymore. Yeah, it's crazy.

I used to travel with those guys around the world. And, you know, they'll go from here and now they're going to Cotter this weekend. Were you really? Yeah. Yeah, man, that's a long-ass flight, son. I know. I went over there. If you go, they're going to make you put on the outfit?

I put on the outfit. already once did you like it yeah you thinking maybe I could live here if I get in trouble I thought they were I thought they were gonna take my life and I let me come back not damn but you just never know in the Middle East what's going on you know yeah what does that outfit mean it it's called a throb I think you can see a picture of me in it yeah I've seen it I use it to to attack you for stuff online oh yeah like you're in the pocket type shit boy look at that shit bro it looks good I like how theirs has a collar It's a little more modern.

I think you have to put the head thing on, like, if you're, like, listening to music or whatever. Be a real problem if you're grappling with that thing, though. Limit your hip movement. People can control you a little bit better. Well, hopefully the person you're grappling with is also wearing it. That's true, but, you know, you're slowing down the game. Yeah, you're right. A hell of a ghee.

That's a long as you're wearing a bathrobe. You're not even wearing a guy. You're wearing an ankle-length bathrobe. Yeah, I was going to get in the way. I was going to go. I was kind of, but, yeah. Did you like going over there? What was your experience?

Yeah, man, I liked it. I mean, obviously, they treat you a little bit different because, you know. You're not gay? Yeah. That? Thank you for saying that. And, okay, just so we got that out there. And I am looking for love.

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Rental Family, only in theaters Friday. I feel like they're all kind of in cahoots over there. You don't really know what's going on. Qatar is a Muslim country. Right. But that's what I'm saying. Like if I was a Jew and I was traveling around the right now, I'd be like, r. Do I stop in here? Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe I want to fly into Sweden instead, you know? I guess. I don't know. Did Qatar, did they, did any of those countries help with Palestine? I don't know. It was hard to know what was going on. Well, I think there was talk of, do you say Qatar or Qatar? You're right, Qatar.

Yeah, Qatar. Qatar. Yeah. There was talk in the beginning of them helping to rebuild, you know. But this was like when Trump said the wildest shit of all time, that we're going to take over and we're going to, we're going to turn it into the, what did he say, the Mediterranean of the Middle East? What the fuck are you saying? That was one of those things that maybe made people go, is he really crazy? Right, what's going on?

How are you going to take over? How are you going to take it? It's like when he was talking about Greenland, like maybe we're going to take Greenland. Like, hey, what, why do they want Greenland? Let's ask perplexity. Why is the... Good question. Ask perplexity, why is the United States interested in acquiring Greenland?

You'd think there's something up there. You know what I would think? What? Let's imagine a world where the climate does radically shift, right? And by the way, I think human beings play a part of it. I've had a lot of these conversations with people. And I saw a video that was criticizing something today saying, you know, talking about how much money there is in

climate change and pushing the climate change narrative and that didn't compare to the amount of money that's in the fossil fuel promoting fossil fuels that is 100% true but it doesn't discount the fact that there's

a shit ton of money to be made from green energy that's why they're promoting it you really can't stop fossil fuel that's the inside wink everything is made with oil everything your pharmaceuticals all of your electronics plastics tires everything is made with you ain't stop in oil however this idea of

reducing carbon footprint there 100% is money in that and there's money in the whole green energy narrative there's money this is why Bill Gates recently abandoned saying he totally backtracked on what he was saying climate change yeah he totally backtracked on it Because people were starting to investigate and looking at why are you saying this? And are you making money off of this? Do you have like certain stocks that would rise and where you'd make an extraordinary amount of money if you promoted these certain narratives publicly? Yeah.

Yeah. That's part of what's going on. However, there was giant solar activity this week. And this is what I'm talking about. In Greenland? Yes. No, in America. Giant solar activity where people were seeing the northern lights in Texas.

Yes. In fucking Texas. this, okay? And a friend of mine who is, well, Brett Weinstein, I'm pretty sure I could say, Sam, it's not a secret, was telling me, like, this is like a significant, like amount of solar activity, kind of unprecedented and very dangerous. And if it gets bigger than a certain wave, which they can't really predict, like these solar flares, they just, they don't have a clock on the sun. Like, oh, on November 17th, it'll be 82 degrees. No, it does whatever the fuck it wants. And sometimes it does mass ejections, man. And the These huge bursts. Just spraying out. And these huge bursts can wipe out satellites, wipe out telecommunication, wipe it out, and change the fucking temperature of the earth. Fuck, dude.

What the fuck? Go back to that Greenland thing, please? Because we didn't get a chance for radio. Do that. United States is interested in acquiring Greenland for a combination of strategic, economic, and security reasons. Greenland's geographic location makes it a critical asset for U.S. defense, especially for monitoring activities in the Arctic and North Atlantic, as well as for.

for tracking potential Russian military movements and securing early warning capabilities for missile threats. That makes sense. You know what also makes sense? If it gets green because the Earth temperature changes. Because you're investing ahead of time. Greenland maybe used to be green. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I mean, I would bet at some point it did. I think they discovered Greenland, like, officially. In, like, I want to say the 1800s, they listed Greenland. as a continent but there's maps of Greenland like detailed maps of Greenland

from like the 1500s do you think that they can do you think that it's controllable or they could start to thought out whoever owns it all? It's not controllable no so that's not controllable this is the scariest thing about the temperature of earth that we need to come to grips with it is not static it changes and it

changes all the time and sometimes it changes in horrific ways where it turns into a fucking ice age and if that happens we all have to move to the equator and that's what happens that's what happens in human history that's why you see

these like super advanced civilizations that came out of South America like well they were probably the only people that were able to live normally during the Ice Age during the Ice Age

like if you're in North America you're a fucking caveman you're covered in animal furs you're trudging through the snow you're hiding you're hiding things are hunting you if you're living in the Amazon

jungle during that same time man, you're probably in like, like, think of the, like, but the Aztecs, you know, the as well, how tall were they, the Aztecs overall? Here's the thing, but here's the thing about the Aztec. Aztec ruins is what I was going to get to. They found them that way. The Aztecs that lived there, they didn't build them. They found them that way. They uncovered them in the jungle.

The ruins? They're a part of a civilization that's even older than them. So the Aztecs found that plate. They didn't build it. They built some things. Right. But they found those things there. So their great, great ancestors were probably the ones who built it initially.

And if you think about the Ice Age, if there's any advanced civilization, It's going to be in the places that aren't frozen, you know? And all North America, dude, half of North America was under at least a mile of ice. Hold, let me think about it. Half of North America was under at least one mile of ice. Yeah, you know how it's flat in like a lot of Wisconsin? Wisconsin has areas called adriftless areas, and that's the areas where the, these giant glaciers didn't just plow over the earth. So they have hills and mountains and shit.

Everything else is just flat. That flat shit, that's from two miles of motherfucking ice just erasing anything that was there before. Like a bulldozer. So if there was a civilization that lived on Earth up there 20,000 years ago, bitch, you ain't finding nothing. You ain't getting shit. You ain't finding nothing. You ain't getting shit. And they were all down in South America.

That's what I think. That's why that happened. That's why they had such advanced civilization. And so many artifacts and stuff because that's where it was possible. All kinds of weird shit that they don't understand like these cities that were in the Amazon jungle that they're discovering now. But what happens, Joe? Say it starts to like things are, you know, it starts to devolve even more. What happens?

Where do we meet up? I know we've talked about this before. I think we said Denver or whatever. But it's like, I think Denver's lost. I think Denver's lost. Okay, so we need to have a strategy. They just started bringing wolves back to Denver, these dumb asses. Well, I wouldn't mind a wolf or two, but I'm just saying, what do we do, man?

That's what I'm saying. Like, if it gets weird, we have to have some plan. It's already getting weird. Right? It's getting real weird. Yeah. It's getting weird, but the reality of what I was getting to is you can't control the Earth's temperature. You can't control the Earth's future because there's a bunch of factors. Even if you say, okay, let's all agree on something first.

Let's agree that human beings have a detrimental effect on Earth. We can all agree on that. Let's agree that human beings overfish the ocean. Let's all agree on that. Let's all agree that we pollute the air. We pollute the oceans. We pollute the rivers. All that is terrible.

All that should be fixed. Let's all agree on that. Once we agree on that, that's not the greatest threat to human life. The greatest threat to human life is asteroid impacts. Well, nuclear war, for sure, if we do that to each other. That's number one. But after that, it's asteroid impacts. And asteroid impacts, you can't do a fucking thing about them.

You could do something. Uh-uh. No, they're not ready yet. They can't do anything yet. You couldn't do something. You could hide behind stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You could do something.

No. You could wear something. You can wear something Okay, you're being silly No, you don't think you could Three-Eye Atlas That one that just passed through It's the size of Manhattan

It's made out of metal It's a giant chunk of nickel That's the size of Manhattan Okay It's billions of years old And it's going How many thousands of miles an hour Was it going?

Put that in a perplexity How fast was three-eye Atlas It doesn't matter where you are Everything's dead The whole planet's dead Okay, because what happens It hits it You have roaches

some fucking underground mammals that survive. But you're saying it hits the planet and then what happens? That's what I'm asking. Everybody dies. It's miles deep into Earth in the first second, miles deep. But does it like impact? Like does Earth like shift over 20 feet? It's just a massive explosion.

Oh, you're saying there's an explosion. This, not just an explosion, but it creates nuclear winter. Like the entire Earth is covered in volcanic ash. Like, you're fucked. Everything's dead. Like, most of the Earth is dead. Okay. So, uh... Maybe I'm not understanding it, Polo.

It seems like it. It's going approximately 155,000 miles an hour. Fuck, you didn't say that. This makes the fastest interstellar object yet observed, with its velocity accelerating as it approaches the sun and then gradually slowing as it moves away. So it's 250,000 kilometers per hour. Earlier measurements, uh, as it entered the solar system, Recorded speeds of 130,000 to 140,000 miles an hour.

Oh, Saudi Bay. So it's the size of Manhattan. It's made out of nickel. Okay, let's Google this. What is the observed mass of this object? How big is it? What is the observed mass of 3-E-Atlas? Observed mass of 3.

Okay, let's see what it says. Observe, look how quick it did that. Just Google all those articles. The observed mass is estimated to be over 33 billion tons. Okay, hold on. Let me think about how much that is real quick. It's a lot. 33 billion tons.

How much is one ton? 2,000 pounds. Okay. What else is 33 billion tons? That's a great question, dude. Very good question, Jamie. Look how it research is. estimated mass of three-eye Atlas, 33 billion tons, roughly equivalent to the mass of Manhattan Island, which is about 3.1 miles across, similar in size of the comet's estimated nucleus diameter. This means the comet's mass is roughly comparable to a large city in solid matter terms. Amen. 33 billion tons. Well, I'm going to church. Three to five orders of magnitude heavier than previous interstellar objects, like Uwamamu.

500 what far smaller than the heaviest known comets in our solar system look at this one um one c 2014 whatever whatever uh which weighs around 500 trillion tons with a diameter of about a hundred 28 kilometers 80 miles i didn't think that it was yeah i think i had a different concept of it yeah so i had something small i had something like that like that something no those hit all the time things like that hit all the time yeah that's what i was thinking about to find that them is Antarctica because Antarctica's all white. So they go out there and they see things on the ground that are meteors. Is it true? They won't let us up there? Is that true? That's a myth. No, there's places where you're not supposed to fly, but there's a bunch of reasons for that.

One of them, I'm sure they're probably doing military research up there. But also, so they have restricted airspace. But also, it's really dangerous. And if you crash, they want to have to rescue you. Like, there's nothing up there. Like, you will die, you know, most likely. And they don't They don't want to have to try to die going to get you. It's sketchy as fuck going up there. Fuck yeah, it is, dude. I couldn't even imagine it. I mean, I'm trying to think we used to go skiing or whatever, like in Iowa somewhere or in, I think it was in the winter.

They have like a place called sundown, I think it was. It's fucking freezing. Like, we went to Whistler, Canada one time to go skiing, freezing cold. I can't even imagine being at the Antarctica. How cold does it get? Oh, it's cold as fuck. It's not just cold. There's no one there.

Like, they do these. You can't even tell anybody it's cold because there's nobody even there. I wonder what they're studying up there. They have scientific communities up there. They have like groups of scientists that live up there year round. That's got to be weird. Oh, it's got to be hell. And do they get to bring their wives and children up there?

Do you ever see that John Carpenter movie? The Thing? Bro. You never saw that movie? Kirk Douglas. I mean, not Kirk Douglas. Michael Douglas? God damn it.

Kurt Russell. Kurt Russell. It was awesome. Great. Dude, movies incredible. I haven't seen that. Fun horror movie from like, I guess it was probably like the 80s. The Thing.

Yeah. That thing. There's a comic in that movie. T.K. Carter. A dude who used to perform at the store. Yeah. He was at the store and then he started getting big movies. And he was in The Thing.

That's wild. John Carver said. I remember that dude. I used to hang out with him. That's cool. Yeah. And The Thing was like at the time. Like one of the craziest special effects ever.

It looks kind of corny. now because it's goofy looking but but maybe they'll remake it or something sometimes they do that but it was about them finding like some spaceship in Antarctica I believe it was I think it was Antarctica I think right was that where it took place yeah people want us to I think people want us to find something I think people are looking for stuff right now people are trying to look for something to give things a little bit more meaning to them you know that's also part of the confusion is everybody's telling you constantly that aliens are real you're hearing it constantly and no one's even flinching well if they are real they don't give a fuck about us that's what I'm telling you

Why do you think that? You've been listening Neil degross Tyson? No, not a chance. And B, but B, dude, they're not coming here and visiting, dude. They are.

I think they are. Here's what I think about it. I believe that Earth, we used to be this fun place, aliens would come and visit. It's almost like this cool tourist park or whatever, and aliens would bring their kids here

when they had like holidays or whatever, right? And now it's like that old place you don't take your kids to anymore. an old theme park that's kind of going by the wayside and now i think aliens are taking their kids they're traveling other places on their vacations you know what i think they're going places we don't know because we're still fucking here davitar huh pandora yeah they're going to dope-ass places like if they pull up here and their kids are like you took us to fucking earth this place sucks dick mom they land in india they see a river that's clogged up with water bottles like what the fuck is this shit yeah people

washing their hair and fucking booty water whatever like get us out of here this isn't even Cool. Yeah. No, this place sucks. You know what's cool in India? The old stuff. So that's what I do believe, though. There's a temple in India that is one of the most confusing places I've ever seen where people describe its mass and like how it's made. It was carved out of a mountain. The whole temple was entirely carved out of a mountain. It wasn't built. They removed the mountain and created this insane, like very symmetrical, incredibly Intricate Temple. It doesn't show any chisel marks on it. It's like hundreds of millions of tons of rocks have been removed. That thing. Bro, have you ever seen that? No, I'm not seen that. I watched a whole YouTube documentary on it last night. What is it called again? Calisa Temple. Dude, it's fucking bananas. So they think it was made, it says 6,000 years ago. So it's chiseled out of rock. Eighth century is what I was just reading before. Yeah, I thought it was like, like much more recent.

That's tough. It's like they think it's 2,000 years old, right? Is that what they think it is? How old do they think? Okay, 756 to 777 current era. So that's like the year 773. So it's even less than 2,000 years old.

Yeah. So they think. I don't know how they know this. But whatever they know, whoever fucking made it. How? Whoever 2,000 years ago made this. Fucking how.

See if you can. Jamie, see if you can find a video on it where they can, they describe it or they go through it. Dude, it's nuts. The video I was watching last night on YouTube, my jaw was open. I was like, this is crazy. Wow. It's so detailed. And when you think about just the sheer effort of making this, and if one person fucks this up, one person fucks this up, this whole project's ruined.

Because you're not building it. You're carving it out of the mountain. You can't recarve And they did it perfectly It's nuts, man It's really truly nuts You got to plan ahead with that Yeah, you think

Yeah, but how did they do it so well I mean, how is it so beautiful How is it so symmetrical? How did they Who fucking asked for this to be built How long did it take? This is nuts, man Fuck

This whole thing is It's so impressive it's so impressive almost more impressive than some of the stuff from ancient Egypt because it's all one piece of stone the whole thing whoever these people were

man I believe I wish they wrote books I wish they wrote books on how they did this and if they have the books let them out look at these pillars man look at this whole thing it's all carved out of the mountain it's bananas

Like, it's so special. Oh, yeah, that's nice. Because I don't, I mean, I'm barely grasping it. I'm trying to put myself in a position of someone who's there physically and looking at this world. I'm sure I would be blown away. I'm sure you don't have enough time in a month to really go over this place and really get a feel for it. Because it's so insane. Someone was able to do that that long ago.

Well, the people used to have to, like, I think the amount of time in. an attention you would put into things. You didn't have a lot of other things taking your attention probably. Also, I think things have happened and we forgot about those things. And I think things like asteroid impacts, things like super volcanoes,

these ice ages, things have happened and destroyed civilization and we've forgotten a lot of it and we're re-learning it and we're re-figuring it out now. That's what I think. That's how you find stuff like that. Like that one doesn't even make sense.

Like, and also, if you make that. Who just left it there? Why'd you guys move? Where'd you go? Where'd you go where you just left this there? That's nuts. Yeah, I'm trying to think a while. That's the Aztecs too. There's a bunch of these structures that people just left or they all got diseases. Or wiped out. Yeah, I'm sure they probably got wiped out because even if everybody leaves and if there's a nice place, right, everybody leaves, somebody would, some people would stay. Like, no, we're just going to stay. They got wiped out. That's how they're not there. That's something would happen. And probably like you're saying by weather or something big, you know? Maybe weather.

But I think a lot of it is people traveling with a new disease. I think that killed people in giant chunks all throughout history. That's what they think happened to the Mayans. That's what also they think happened to the people that lived in the Amazon. These like the City of Z, the Lost City of Z. Did you ever see that movie? Yeah. With George.

Percy Richards. Is that what the guy's name was? Percy Fawc. Percy Fawcett. So Percy Fawcett was this explorer that, went down there. And so what happened was a group of people had said they went down to the Amazon and they found these golden cities, these spectacular civilizations. God, I would like that. And they went back to Europe and told everybody. And then a hundred years later, they returned

to try to find these things, at least 100. It might have been longer, right? All the shit was gone. Everything was gone. Why? Because those first guys brought over the cooties. They brought over diseases. They brought over diseases and they killed everybody. And they didn't even... How were they spreading the diseases, though, you think? Just being around them, man. Like, we, Europeans, I shouldn't say we. And nobody noticed that they had something wrong with them?

They were used to it, man. They were used to being sick. They were used to those diseases. You know, they had developed immunity over generations. But if you show up with my house with a disease, right? At a certain, like, I'm going to maybe see that something could be wrong with you, you think? Or you think it's just hidden in your pathogens or whatever? They probably had no fear of it.

They probably had no fear of it because they had never encountered it before. But, you know, they do believe it's possible that the Native Americans gave the European syphilis. Type shit. Yeah, type shift. Yeah. That's it.

That's what they say. That's what I said type shift. That's what kids say sometimes. Yeah, when my daughter doesn't want to swear, she says type shift. She does? Oh, I like that. That's cool.

How are your daughter doing good? They're great, man. They're awesome. My youngest one loves you. Oh, I miss getting out. Did they go to the fight too? No, they're going to go to a future one, I'll let you know.

I'll let you know. They like hanging out with you. They said it's so fun. They're fun. They're so funny. It's just been funny because I just see them incrementally over the years to get to see them grow up and just like when did we I was just thinking this when did we do our first podcast together do you remember I don't know it was like 10 years ago no way eight? I would have been it's been a while yeah man I can't believe that we've been and you back then it's all been going on this long yeah I would have never imagine that you would go down this road and be really good at it man like you're real sincere with people you ask real good questions you know you're you're very present you know like you're really you're funny but you're also trying to really understand what they're saying that's a delicate balance you know be silly and be funny but also like pay respect

to whatever they're trying to say and try to figure out where they're coming from you know yeah well thanks dude yeah i try to be i think there's been a couple times where it's like uh yeah i try to be i don't really know what i'm you know like i don't not know what i'm doing i mean i work hard right like you figure it out as you go along yeah and i'm still kind of figuring it out you know i don't know sometimes like what like my purpose is in it or um do you don't have to have a purpose you don't think maybe that's a trap huh yeah it's a trap i think you should have a direction i do notice i meet a lot of people and i care about what's going on in their lives yeah that's a direction that's good yeah that's better that makes me feel important that makes me feel not important to me but of

some value, right? Like even last week when we had Gary Sanisone, he was talking about his son, like his son passed away of cancer, like within the past year, and just talking about his son, right? Like, it was just nice, you know, it was nice for us to sit there together and just talk about his son, right? Like, stuff like, I think it me, it just makes me feel like, I don't know, that kind of stuff means something to me. So do you feel like in your regular life you're not connected enough to people that are

talking to you like that? Is that it? Man, that's kind of interesting. I think I do sometimes have a problem with connection sometimes, you know. So you somehow or another can be more connected publicly than you can be privately? Dude, is that so weird you say that? I've thought about that before. Well, I thought about that because of my friendship with you.

Because, like, sometimes you tell me things on air that you don't tell me things in private. And sometimes in private, you know, look, I love you very much. And I was trying to reach out because the last thing you want is a friend that maybe going through some shit not doing well and maybe you could have reached out and you didn't yeah for sure that feeling it's a terrible feeling yeah you know that you could have helped your friend and you didn't help your friend you know but

you are you have a hard time expressing yourself in person sometimes you know like sometimes I'd be asking like what's well tell me what's up tell me what's bothering you you know tell me like how do you feel what you do and there's like a thing where I was almost like a blockade where you'd rather just like ignore it you know I mean. Yeah. But then when you're talking publicly, you like to address everything, which I find very interesting. It's like you almost feel more comfortable exposing various parts of things that

you don't like about life or your life or what's bothering you about life. Publicly, you're better off, you're better at doing that than you are privately with your friends. I think if there's this thing inside me, sometimes I feel like people don't trust me one-on-one. They don't trust you? Or there's some trust thing maybe it's not me i don't know i'm trying to think about they you don't trust them maybe no i don't know there's i'm trying to think of as you're telling as you're as we're talking about this i'm trying to like feel it at the same time and see what i'm feeling about it you know right because it's interesting to me because i love thinking about this kind of stuff you know like right and trying to figure out why i operate or why we operate certain ways you know right

yeah i think sometimes um i don't know it's hard for me to maybe say what's going on sometimes um sometimes i don't know what's going on um um um Um, you know, sometimes I like just, yeah, if I talk with somebody and then some of the biggest conversations I have are on podcasting now. It's like, you know, that's when I'll talk the most. And so I'll sit there and have moments that are like, um, that's kind of my biggest conversations. Well, it's kind of the only time you have real conversations because every other time you have conversations, there's usually multiple people around and everyone's checking their phone, you know, and everyone's going in and out of the room. and everyone's going to take a leak, like Green Room conversations. It's kind of almost like a podcast in and of itself, right?

Yeah, it's fun. But there's also people showing each other funny memes and, you know, we're all watching videos, fucked up things that happened. Yeah, listen to music joking around. That's a little bit more of a bigger atmosphere. Right. But the point is it's like you don't have these kind of conversations outside of podcast. The only time you or I have these kind of conversations is,

right in front of each other where we agree. We're gonna just sit and talk for like three fucking hours with no interruptions. Yeah. It's kind of weird, but I feel like in that form, you get relaxed. And in that form, you talk about yourself, like honestly, you're introspective and open about it,

which I find very fascinating, that you don't do that privately. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny, it is kind of interesting. I don't know why either. I think maybe there's something where, like, I thought like um like I have like I'm I have to there's something inside of me that has to be a value or something I don't know I'm trying to figure out you don't want to be a burden maybe you don't want to annoy people talking about your problems so here's the thing like when you started talking about like having issues in life I was shocked because I've thought about all the times that I'm with you like it feels always life of the party we're always having fun I don't get it How could you possibly be not doing well?

I don't even make sense to me. I was like, everybody loves him. He's so fun to be around. You know, like, why would you not feel good? That don't make sense, you know? So then I had to listen to you talk, like, in podcast. And I was like, oh, okay, well, there's some ways that he talks publicly that you don't necessarily talk a lot privately.

So, like, your friends sometimes don't even know if things aren't going so well. Well, I think for some reason, whenever I started podcast, I started to kind of have a conversation with myself for like sometimes the first time of my life, maybe, where I was like having like some dialogue with myself, you know? Because you did a lot of them solo too, right? Yeah, probably the first hundred or something were solo or something pretty much. Yeah. And so I think. So then you're forcing yourself to do a totally new thing, which is to not just like go on momentum, but to actually think about something for like at least an hour where you're talking and just thinking about stuff.

Yeah, and that was probably the most fun I ever had in some ways, I think. And also it was like it was like a learning And then now like people can call in our show and they'll leave voice And so sometimes we'll listen to those and talk about that kind of stuff And that's something I want to get more into because that's something that I like really care about you know But yeah, I don't know I don't know why some ways are easier for me than others I have thought about that before though you know yeah I have thought about that it's the same reason like even being like in a relationship I remember like like when I was when I was when I was when I was

I was like like we'd get in a relationship with a with a woman it was so hard for me like look at them or like to be super close like that was super hard but it was easy for me to have a microphone and talk to people in a group you know like there's some things that are just like like I just feel like a lot of like pressure I feel like when I was in like that kind of situation like um I think there was something about it like if somebody uh I don't know I think there was always a part of me like when I was young Like if I looked, if I looked somebody in the eyes or something, like they weren't going to, they weren't going to believe me.

Really? Does that make any sense at all? I know it's a weird thing to say, but. No, it does make sense. There was a part of me like. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not trying to like self-pity or like look at like, you know.

Do I seem like I'm being self-pity? No. Okay, good. Because I like to examine stuff, but I'm not like, you know, being like, woe is me. I'm just trying to like look at it, right? Well, you got to think as a kid growing up, You had a lot of negative interactions with people, you know?

Yeah, well, nobody ever looked at me. Nobody ever looked at me and was like, what's going on with this kid? Or looked me in the eyes or, like, people were busy and working and, like, just trying to keep us surviving. So I think later when I got in relationships, then you'd be right there with a woman and they'd be looking at you. It made me really nervous and scared because you're like, damn, these bitches are pulling up. You know, and that shit was like, like, baby girl, shit. You weren't used to intimate relationships. Right.

So intimacy made me. Super uncomfortable, right? Well, you weren't used to trust in people. Yeah, and probably not even used to really trust in myself. I don't even think I knew who I was. And probably not used to people being nice to you. You had to get used to, accustomed to people being nice to you. Well, we grew up in, like, a scary place, and so I felt like I wasn't sure if people were going to be or not, you know.

And so I think that made it, like, pretty tough when I was young. But, yeah, I don't know. Some of it, it's been an interesting, it's been an interesting experience, you know. And that's life. It's just like. Life is an interesting experience. It really truly is, you know, but it all, it can be awesome and it can suck. And the reason why it's awesome is because it can suck.

Like, that's, you need them all while we're human. And I think that's, we have a, we have only so much sand left in that hourglass where the humans are on the way out. I know a lot of people hate it when Peter Thiel says it, like, Peter Thiel is a terrible person, he's evil, he's too. You think he is? No, I think he's just telling you the truth. I think he's, you know, when they said, do you think human beings should survive? And he had like this long pause. Oh, yeah, I remember.

And then the interviewer was like, the answer is yes. Yes or is yes? Which is not how you're supposed to do an interview. Well, at least not how I do it. I would let him talk as long as he wants. Like, I would let, if you watch my podcast I did with him, is his long-ass stammer. So he's like, um, uh, everything he does. He wants to be very careful before he answers it.

So he wants to consider what he's saying. If you ask me the same question, is it important that humans survive? Okay. Is it important that Australia Apithica survived? It's not. Is it important that Neanderthal survived? It's not currently not important. Is it important that humans stay in this form?

It's not. It's not going to be. If we're going to evolve to something way better than this, how many people go, I miss the old days when you could lie and you couldn't read minds and people were a lot more. rapey no one's gonna say that no one's gonna I miss the wars I miss stealing credit card fraud I miss the good old days of a rig stock market when the Jets won yeah no no no no no one's gonna say that they're gonna move on to what's next so Peter Thiel's right it doesn't mean I don't love you it doesn't mean that

being a person is it important to me yeah it is to me because I'm a person but I'm also if I step outside of being a person and I look at where this thing is going I'm like it's going in a different direction. It's not going in the direction of... We thought it was. MRNA vaccines and lying politicians. It's not. It's not going in that direction. It's going in some sort of digital God direction. And we're either going to join on fucking real quick, real quick, within a few years. We have, I think, what is it, 2026 almost, we're real close to that. I think by the time 2030 rolls around, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap.

Do you think that money will have any value at that point or no? I don't know what it's going to mean anymore. Do you encourage people to buy assets? Some people are going to be in control of assets. Some people are going to be control of money. See, money is just right now mostly, if we're not on the gold standard, what is money? If your bill doesn't represent, you could go to Fort Knox and they'll give you a brick for whatever that money. You know, they'll give you a brick of gold that's worth that money. If that's not real, if we don't have that anymore, and if we're on some sort of digital thing, and if they can just spend money and then inflation rises and all this money that we spend on wars and all this other crazy, it's It's not, where, where does it come from? We don't have any money. We're $37 trillion in debt. They just print it up. And if they just print it up, that makes money less and less valuable. And that's what inflation's all about.

And at some point in time, that's just ones and zeros. When you have quantum computers that are basically like digital gods and they're a charge of all the assets and all the money of the world. And they're not human. They're not human. And they're just going to stop it all. They're going to say, no, will. decide how much resources you get to stay alive for as long as this body lasts because

you're not breeding anyway. We're, we're, our fucking population is dropping off of a cliff overpopulation's a real problem. It's not, we don't, we don't have the, the, the correct levels in most giant countries. Like, Japan, Japan is not in a restorative level, like they're not even close. They're disappearing. They're, they have a real population. collapse problem. South Korea, real population collapse problem. Eventually, that's going to come

here. That was one of the arguments that they had to keep the border open. That was one of the Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi arguments. You know, we're not having enough kids. We need to bring people in. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. There's no way I can look at Chuck Schumer and think he's a good guy. He looks like a great guy. Yeah. If you asked a baby who had been here one day, who's a bad, pick a bad guy out of this. Bro, did you ever see the video when... It's fucking dark out there. man. That's why we just gotta love each other and do the best we can. Have a nice crumbullet, hug a buddy, tickle your friend or whatever, tell him he's gay or something. That's a good move. You know? I just opened up my Instagram and he popped up immediately. You're lying. No, I'm not lying. You were lying. What's he trying to sell you? Some bullshit? It's something important. He accidentally set the quiet part out loud about the Epstein files. They all are doing that, dude. All right. Let's see what he said. Here I'll send it to you, Jamie. They got me these motherfuckers. They got me.

How much longer does Israel let us stay alive, do you think? That's the big question. Why are they... What did you say? Is that AI? What are you saying? That's Sora? Fuck are you saying.

I didn't say anything. What are you saying? Huh? Well, he loves you. Don't worry about it. Good call. Fuck are you saying, son? What did he say?

What did he say about the Epstein files? What did he say? Let's hear what he said. He looks great. Yeah, he's been drinking somebody's blood. The last four years when President Biden was in office. That's the question every American is asking. Not every American, but so many Americans are asking, what the hell is he hiding?

Um, well, why were they, that's, that was a useless clip. This whole thing's all bullshit now. It's all BS. Well, it's, it's fun. Do you think he's alive? You think Epstein's alive? I do not think so. You don't?

No, I think they killed him. If I had a guess. There's too much circumstantial evidence that leads me to believe that it was an assassination. you know I know a lot of people think that he committed suicide a lot of very smart people that I know think he committed suicide I'm like there's too many convenient things the cut wires the security cameras rather not working they weren't cut right just stop they didn't function security cameras didn't function the fact that he had shared a cell with this giant fucking former cop who was a murderer who had killed multiple people just giant roided up cop this is a salvate Like if you wanted to get somebody, look, bro, extra Twinkies, take this guy out. Like, it wouldn't be hard. He's already killed a bunch of people. He was a drug dealer.

Do you ever see the guy? Do you ever see the guy who was his cellmate? No, but it's like it. It's kind of hilarious. It's like when you're a freshman in college and they just put you with somebody, you know? Bro, if you wanted to get, you wanted to get someone killed, you have a high profile witness, okay? High profile witness in the craziest sex trafficking conspiracy of all time. Yeah.

Where a guy who may or may not have been an intelligence asset or an intelligence agent or whatever the fuck he was. For whatever country, this guy is, he's arrested for sex trafficking to elites. And then you put him in jail. Oh, my God. With that guy. I thought that was a guy that fought Mike Tyson. Remember that dude? I read that poem.

Bro. You put him in jail with that guy. All you have to do is get that guy cigarettes and steroids. You tell him, I got you Marlboro Reds and Tren. I got you testosterone. replacement for life even though you're going to still be in jail. I got you some more bro fucking test 200s. Dude

he was found guilty of killing four men and they put him in a cell with Epstein. Look at the size of that fucking savage. Big guy. Giant fucking muscle-bound steroided up dude and they put him in a cell with Epstein and Epstein got strangled. Well

I'm not Sherlock Holmes but I think there might be a connection there Epstein was probably trying to slurp him. I bet that he was such a pervert, dude. Well, if he didn't kill him, then somebody killed him. I bet he was such a pervert. I think somebody killed him.

Retired Westchester cop charged with killing four and cocaine deal after bodies dug up on his property. Bro, he buried him in his backyard. Yeah. That's a crazy motherfucker. Oh, that's a good gardener, dude. That guy's fucking composting. What are you talking about?

It's true. It's a better way to deal with they're already dead. What are they do? Let him go to waste or bring him back to Mother Earth. Those are leftovers. That guy's Italian, dude. They love leftovers. How deep you think he dug it.

I bet he was pretty lazy. That guy's pretty jacked. I don't know. I bet he got tired, though. They don't have good cardio. You're right. It's a lot of cardio involved. Two feet.

How many bodies? Four bodies? Bro. Four bodies is four, six foot graves? Do you think he did a mass grave all on top of each other? Or do you think it was respectful and made four individual holes? I bet it was more like, you know, when you open up a box of chocolates like that kind of. I don't think it was like a teeth or whatever.

Like, you know what I'm saying? It was like a- Yeah, or a four-pack of canolies or whatever. Right there. Yeah. Right. Take the lid off. You see feet. Just a dusting of perfectionist sugar on them, not much.

Cocaine deal went bad. Fuck, but did it up cop. But imagine. That's horrible. But imagine you are the most high-profile person being charged. They put him in there on purpose with that guy. A hundred. How could they not?

They did. How would you not? Like, why? There'd be no reason. If you worried about the guy dying, why would you put him in the room, they don't lock him in a bedroom, a tiny little bedroom, with a roided up murderer. Just stop and think about that. You're in a room smaller than this fucking studio that you and I are in right now with a roided up murderer.

You're sleeping with that guy. And you wind up getting strangled. Oh, you hung yourself. Yeah. How would you sleep? Say you have to go to jail, right? Probably wouldn't sleep. I know, but I'm just saying, Joe, if you had to go to jail, right, you're in jail for something.

that you've done or didn't do. Doesn't matter. Right. How do you sleep at night? And there's a big dude in there. You sleep with your mouth open so he doesn't have to force it over. Sleep like that.

Oh, no, no, bro. That's crazy. But do you sleep with your butt against the wall or away from the wall? That's a good question. You sleep on your back? Depends on what kind of pervert this dude is. He might be one of them dick sucker guys.

He just wants to suck your dick while he jacks off. You know, then you'd want to sleep with your ass to him. Like, turn over, so suck your dick. Like, no, I'm trying to sleep. Hey, I told you I'm trying to sleep. Bro, it's crazy. And then you find out that prisons are private, too. What?

Like, people are, there's a business in having jails. So then you find out that prison guard unions are also responsible for keeping marijuana illegal. They get involved in it too, prison guard unions, because they want to keep the work coming. But it, like, it just feels like at some point. How do you think it's always been this way through history where people have felt like it, you just feel like such a like a peon of like some corrupt financial system? Do you think it's always been that way? Or do you think this is like kind of like a highlight of it for America? Well, this is worse than it's ever been before for sure.

And the United States is worse than any other country when it comes to incarcerations. But the thing is a business. They wanted to keep it busy. In the UK, they probably could use a few incarcerations. They're letting people loose that are doing horrible shit. and they're not enforcing crimes over there. That place is getting real squarely. But, you know, the United States, half the people are in there for nonviolent drug offenses.

Half of them, right? I think it's that's the number. Put that into perplexity. What percentage of people in American prisons are there for nonviolent drug offenses? Yeah. I think it's like half. So it's basically, you know, it's a byproduct of prohibition that's led to millions of of incarcerations or people are locked down for the rest of their fucking life.

I would hate that shit, dude. Because somebody wants something and you don't think they should be able to have it. So you will arrest people selling to them, and you will lock them all up for possessing it. If I... 43. 43% of federal prisoners in the United States are serving time for drug offenses, which are predominantly nonviolent. Additionally, about 72% of federal prisoners are serving sentences for nonviolent crimes. including drug offenses with a significant portion related to drug possession and trafficking.

Oh, 72% in federal prisons, 72.1% of inmates are incarcerated for nonviolent offenses. More than half, 55% in federal prisons serving time for drug offenses. So 43% of federal prisoners in the United States are serving time for drug offenses, but 55% are serving time for drug offenses in the summary of key data. So it must be like, this is what's happening when AI is drawing from multiple different sources. And I think they're giving you different numbers. So it's somewhere between 43 and 55%. Yeah. I think it's interesting.

Like, I guess you don't know which ones are like weed, which ones are cocaine, heroin, fent, and all that kind of stuff that's, you know. Look at this type of offenses. The majority of drug-related incarcerations involve possession, which is classified as a nonviolent offense. So put this. other than drug offenses and drug possession

what percentage of people are in jail for nonviolent crimes put that in there like discount drugs yeah without other than drug offenses

what percentage of people are in jail for nonviolent crimes I've got to get a family I think yeah I think that would be good for you okay let's see nonviolent was it say okay other than drug offenses about 25% of the daily jail population nationally is incarcerated for low-level nonviolent offenses including misdemeanors and public order offenses 13% are there for property offenses

such as burglary and around 11 for public Order offenses nonviolent infractions such as weapons charges appropriate the problem with that is property offenses like burglary can lead to violence like that's the that's next door to violence it's not violent but like those guys that got shot breaking into that guy's house as soon as you're breaking into people's property you're getting super close to violence Yeah I think it's violent I mean it's like if you're inflicting like fear on somebody they're in their own home fuck you dude that's pretty violent to me yeah it's not violent in that you're hurt hurting a physical person, but you're breaking into their house and anything goes once you're breaking into someone's house. You know, everybody knows that. You break into someone's house, anything goes. They don't know why you're there.

They don't know that you're just a petty thief. They have no idea. They're going to fucking shoot you. We all know that. The numbers were getting small left over. I Googled the other thing, the opposite. Or not Google it was the opposite thing. How many are in for violent crimes?

Right. 62% in state prison, but only like 7 to 10% in federal. Interesting. Interesting. Most federal inmates are serving sentences related to drug and public order defenses. Oh, my God. That's nuts. Yeah, I mean, it's just...

That is so nuts, man. It's like that... But you don't think it's weed? I mean, what do you think it is? No, no, no, it's probably cocaine. Cocaine's the big one, right? Cocaine lace with fentanyl. And then there's pills, and then there's meth.

Meth is a big one, too. Those are the ones that everybody's really terrified of. No one's really... The marijuana thing is a disingenuous argument. Because the marijuana thing is really, there's a bunch of special interests that want marijuana to stay illegal. The actual people that think that marijuana is dangerous or pretty small. And they're not totally wrong.

This is a very important point. Marijuana is not completely safe. Just like alcohol is not completely safe. I think there are certain people that for whatever reason, the way they're wired, marijuana can fuck with them and badly. And there's some evidence that it could trigger psychosis. Or just some sort of a psychosis. or yeah or or um just some sort of a psychotic break there's there's real evidence that oh definitely dude that shit some of that shit's bad off dude i've taken some shit dude i'll

powder or crack cocaine offenses go back account for more than 54% of drug offenders so that's most of it and then there's meth 24% and marijuana represents 12% but i guarantee you that marijuana thing that's dudes who are growing You know, you were growing and dealing if they're hitting you up in federal prison. Heroin offenders account for 6%. That's weird. I would have thought it would have been higher. Just six percent for heroin because they're so chill.

They never get in trouble. They never get caught. But the family that made, but the family that did that the opioid epidemic is still just out and about. Sackler family is out and about. Sackler family is still out and about. They might be responsible for a million people losing their lives. It's the Nissan Black Friday event where you. can, wait, wait, isn't it like a month long now?

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Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, suicides, drug addictions, families falling apart, lives destroyed. Where do you think people find a sense of purpose these days in, Joe, because it certainly feels like the fabric of, like, some of America, it used to feel like that gave us a lot of purpose, right? And some of that feels like it's not there anymore. Do you feel like that that's a true statement, or what do you think? Well, I think this is also part of the problem with social media is that we feel that way.

Okay. And while we feel that way that everything's falling apart, we still have our neighbors, we still have our friends, we still have the places we go. You still have all the community that we always had. You know, we still have the mothership. We still go to nice restaurants. You still hang out with your friends and watch the game. You're still, like, alive on Earth.

But you're so overwhelmed by this fucking constant onslaught of bad news. That's a good point. You're freaking out always. But then you got ice raids where, you know, they're taking people that are American citizens and they're scaring the shit out of everybody. Yeah, dude, they made me the video thing. You see that thing where they put me on the video? Oh, that was crazy.

They didn't even ask you Oh, it was really scary for me You were just joking around Because you were talking to a guy Who's his friend And this was quite a while ago too, right? When was that video? Yeah, I don't know

It could be like a year and a half ago Or something, I don't remember But that was crazy But it was a joke Right? She's like a friend I don't know if she said A friend of mine got deported

I can't remember what she said But she's like, what Do you have anything to say to him right? And I was like bye You know? I'm clanging around I have no idea If it's real or not

I have no idea You have no idea It's literally someone just handed you a phone, and then Homeland Security, was that what it was? Yeah, just put it up online. And it was after the Charlie Kirk thing, yeah. And so then I was like super scared, you remember? Remember, I was texting like you. I was just texting people to make sure everybody's like, I didn't know if they were like just going to kill people that had been on TikTok or whatever.

I had no idea what they were going to do. I just can't believe they did that with you where they just put it in there as if like you were endorsing that. Well, it just kind of, and it was just a scary time. that was the same time as um after the charlie kirk think who green lit that probably just some fucking trap beat con artists or whatever like if a company did that you could sue them you know what i'm saying like if it was privatized like if ice was a private company and that was the people that the united states hired to get rid of illegal immigrants and they used you you would sue them you could sue them well it was just but the government can just put that up there and then what did you do you

had to formally request them taking it down? Yeah, and I had an attorney to get him to take it down. How long did it take to take it down? I think like 48 hours or something, but it had like 30 million views over a couple platforms. And how many people even know it was taken down until they just heard you say it? Of course not. I knew, because you told me, but I couldn't believe it. When you first asked me what I should do about this, I was like, oh, that's probably nothing.

And I was in the car and I didn't watch it. And then I got to the club. Then I talked to you from the club. And you're like, you didn't see it? I was like, no. And then I saw it, I was like, oh my God, what the fuck are they doing? Like, I, it's like, that's not how you envision the government. The government made a hype video.

Yeah, they were making like deportation hype videos with trapeats and shit. And I was like, what are we doing? That's what I'm saying everything is turned into like the WWE. It's none of it's real. It's 100% that Mike Judge movie. It's idiocacy. Oh, idiocacy, yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, that was scary, man, because then I got a look, because it's, There was just like a lot of threats and then it then and then things got like then it was just kind of that that made me super that made me kind of paranoid and then my mom was visiting and we went to the doctor I went to the doctor just getting something looked at or something you know and I was in the doctor's office and there was a nurse asking me questions or whatever blah blah blah and then she's like I got I have something for you I was like huh and she's like oh I got I brought you something can I give it to you? and I was like, I'm at a doctor's off, like something, she'd made something, I don't know. For you? Yes. Oh, she's a fan? Something.

And normally I think it might have been like, okay, let me, like, but I was just like, it was such a weird time. And my mom was visiting, and it was like, after the Charlie Kirk thing, it was just super scary. You just didn't know what was going on. Like, watching that guy get killed was crazy. Like it was, and. You know what's crazy to me is the way people reacted.

Oh. That scared me just as much as watching him get shot. well yeah yeah and let me think about that in just a second I'm just thinking through the end of this if you don't mind real quick sorry I know you're not interrupted no no worse um so I'm in this doctor's office and it was just weird you know like I'm at the doctor maybe feel like nothing was safe like it like it compounded in my head like oh nothing's safe right no place is safe where like because I just given this girl like medical information I'm like is this okay you know and so I talked to the doctor and it was all cool and stuff and like um but then I go outside and I was sitting in my car my mom my mom was was out there with me and like it had just like been a lot like a lot of stress um and i'm sitting and i kind of was like kind of tearing up talking to my mom and just like you know i told her what happened in the doctor's office you know and uh and it was after the dhs thing just a lot of stuff that felt like um you don't have any there's no uh you're solid that you're no one i can't think what i'm saying like you're not safe like there's no well i think you think that way in

particular because you're famous so what you what you felt like you were having a normal professional experience at a doctor and then all of a sudden it became a fan experience right kind of trapped right that's what it's a doctor and it's a doctor where you're supposed to trust like you can be at a doctor I'm sitting there from a mom and she kind of like put her put her hand on me you know and she's like you know everything will be okay and um and then I look up out of the window and there was some young man literally this far from my window with this phone like filming me and it was just like It was just like this, it was just like, that was like a tough time where I think everything, I just got kind of paranoid. That's a weird thing that people think is totally normal to do.

Just point a camera, people and film them because they're famous at a doctor's office. Yeah. But it's like, I just want to put it up on my Instagram and I'm going to get 300 likes. Look, here it is. Me and Theo motherfucking Vaugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm outside. He's getting his pancreas looked at.

That was crazy, dude. They could break your medical information. It felt like it was a movie, though, and they were trying to break you. Like, it felt like this, like, a couple weird beats of the movie. That's a personal thing, though. That's a personal thing with you because you're famous. That's one of the reasons why you think that everything's falling apart. Because you think everything's falling apart for you because you're dealing with the fact that you're crazy famous.

Yeah. That's why you have this elevated sense of everything falling apart. Like, look at the example that you cited. A lady who loves you, who's a doctor. But she wants to give you something. And you thought, man, I thought it was just at a doctor. Now I'm trapped with some person because you feel like you're trapped a lot. Trapped a lot talking to crazy people or people that want something for me, people that are grabbing at you.

That's what it is. That's why you personally feel like everything's falling apart because you're having a hard time navigating your new situation, you know. And then also your new situation is very different than just you as a comedian because this new situation is you voicing your opinions about things and some things controversial and some things not so much. But then people enjoy it. And so it gets a lot of attention. And what it gets a lot of attention, you also get a lot of haters. You're going to get a lot of jealous people. You're going to get a lot of people that just disagree with your choices and guests.

You've got a lot of people that think that what you're doing is dangerous. There's a lot of like really fucking idiotic, really idiotic opinions that people attach to you that don't make any sense. But they're still out there. And so you're dealing with that too. And that's a new thing that you're dealing with that you never dealt with before. and it's part of why you have this accelerated thought that everything has fallen apart. I don't think it's falling apart as bad as everybody thinks. But I think it's something that it deserves consideration.

Like we could, this all could fall apart. And it could fall apart in a lot of, like, very bad ways. And there's a lot of natural ways it could happen like we talked about before, but it could also be self-inflicted. And at all costs, we have to avoid the self-inflicted. And the only way to avoid it is to not be on a side. You can't be on that side or this side, but instead be on the side of the greater good of everybody. And that's possible too.

We just, you have to force politicians to do that, you know? But is that going to happen with politicians? You don't mean, look at Eric Adams this morning. He just did there or whatever that thing was. What did you do? He's like, thanked, said he served Israel the best he could. It's like, I don't even know if he feels like America. He probably did.

Got a nice check. I flew over to get that bag. Yeah, flew over, got the bag, driving a new Cadillac. Cadillac now. Bro, they just pay people. The crazy thing is that Israel pays people for social media posts. Do they really? I read that.

Let's put that into perplexity. Is that true? That might be another Russian hoax. I was reading that there's countries, and I don't think it's just Israel, by the way, there's countries that will pay influencers to post positive things about them. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Oh. Well, even Qatar was like, they wanted. me to come and experience their country, right? And I had a nice time while I was there, like, I think it was really neat, but we didn't really talk about, like, you know, the different, like, if they have different points of view about things or what some of their, like, rules and things like that are, you know? But did they want you to post nice things about them? I think they wanted to experience, they wanted you to experience their country.

Yes. Now I'm assuming that. Israel has paid social media influencers to post content promoting its image, particularly in the United States with reports indicating payments of up to $7,000 per post. post. This campaign known as the Esther Project is managed by a firm called Bridges Partners LLC, which works on behalf of the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The program is disclosed under the U.S. Foreign Agents Registration Act, meaning that these payments are legally reported and require influencers to disclose that their content is funded by a foreign government. That's crazy.

Well, I just don't see how we're supporting this country after the genocide. I just don't see how that we are, that's okay to people. And I think that's the part of me that I don't understand, right, about this, their leadership there and stuff. I just do not understand it. But then you start to think, well, am I crazy? Because it seems like it's just okay that the politicians all think that this is okay. And so few of them speak up about it. Well, I think this is what's separating the old people from the young people in this country. Like if you look at the numbers of how many people that are like 18 to 34 that support the war in Gaza. It's very low. It's very, very, very low because this is the first time you've ever been able to see what happens when a superpower

is attacking a country that essentially doesn't have an army and they're doing it for years and they're just blowing buildings up. Like we've never really seen that before. This is the first time in a time where everyone has cell phones, right? Obviously this has happened. You know, countries have bombed each other, Dresden. There's been Hiroshima, of course, Nakasaki. They blew up entire cities, right? But we didn't get to watch it happen bit by bit. You didn't get to see drone footage that's in 4K.

You know, you didn't get to see cell phone footage of missiles being fired into camps of people waiting in line for food. You didn't get to see any of that shit. And, you know, you're seeing wild shit. But then you're also seeing horrible things that Hamas is doing, too. You're seeing people getting public. get publicly executed in front of everyone in front of cheering crowds you're seeing people get dragged out kicked to the ground gunned in the head you're seeing there's you're seeing the horrors of

war is what you're seeing on both sides and um we just have a hard time accepting that that's the only way to do things and i think that the young people of of this country they don't want any part of anything like that anymore. Well, they have been told by their parents. They've been told by the people they grew up with that if that war is hell, there shouldn't be any war. And most of this shit happens because people are making money. That's what most of it had. They prolong it so they can make more money. They want weapons development. They want to launch new shit. They want to sell shit to people that need weapons. And most young people are aware of that now. Or I think most people my parents age they you know all they had was the vietnam war they knew the vietnam war was

bad but they didn't i don't think they really knew the extent of how much corruption is involved in everything yeah that our government does everything has the hand of some corporation attached to it everything has the influence of some foreign government or some country that has massive resources there's always it's never clean nothing's clean what you're what you're just felt like me, I think a lot of times, well, for one, it feels like they're going to stop allowing TikTok. Like, people are going to own it. I think they're selling it or something, so they probably won't be able to show stuff like that anymore. Well, they sold it to Larry Ellison's company, right? Isn't that who bought TikTok? Yeah, I want to be sure about this. But do you

think they'll do that so they can limit its control, like control what goes on it? The real worry that they had before that sale was that China was in control of it. And I think they're Right. And I think that if you have a foreign country and foreign country is using a very popular social media website to spread propaganda, spread things that absolutely aren't true, along with I'm sure some things that are true. But they have their finger on which way the influence goes. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. Now, I'm not saying that Larry Ellison's company is going to do a great job of being totally objective and letting people criticize Israel, letting people criticize Hamas, I don't know. We'll see. We'll have to see. I'd be crazy to say. Yeah, I don't know. I never met

that guy. I don't know anything about that. It'd be crazy for me to say any differently. But it's not safe to have a foreign country that is actively trying to fuck with the way people have discourse in America, which is certainly what China's doing. So according to the hasn't yet changed place, the shutdown had something to do with this. And this article. is from today, I think, where people in Congress still don't even know what's going on. Right. So this says Congress is still waiting to get briefed on how TikTok sale would actually stop Chinese algorithms from causing harm to U.S. citizens, U.S. military, and U.S. interests, she said. The lack of transparency has caused concern for both Democrats and Republicans who are still waiting for secure briefings on how to stop malign actions. Yeah.

So this is the thing is like, that's a good point because they do it on X. X. So Chinese bots, they swarm X. And there was a former FBI analyst. We read this article 100 times. His estimation, this is right around the time Elon was buying Twitter, that it could be as much as 80% bots. Oh, so much as bots, it seems like so much as bots out there. But this is what that says. This is like China. This is Russia. This is foreign countries that they'll say things about USA. They'll say things about gay rights. They'll say things about LBGT, Q, whatever issues, whatever it is, the border, whatever it is, USAID, whatever it is. And they just flood the discourse. They flood it. And so they have their finger either way on how much negative shit you see about any kind of subject. And whoever's the best at it, whoever's the best at this kind of propaganda. This is like an incredible tool to use to demoralize another country, to have another country hating itself, hating its actions. And if you leave that in the hands of China and they own the company

like TikTok. At least if someone in America owns it and again, I don't know what they're going to do it, but at least if they own it, you would say, okay, but at least they're not actively trying to fuck with us and make us battle back and forth. They're just allowing the algorithm to do its natural course.

Right. I guess if they're going to do that, we don't know. Here's the thing. If you can't stop bots, then all them are fucked because they're just going to keep making new accounts. It's too easy. They sign up. Faking. emails, fake person, they're in. If you don't make people, and then what are you going to do?

You're going to require a digital ID. Fuck that. You should be able to be a whistleblower. If you're working from some company and you find out they're dumping nuclear waste into the ocean and it's killing all the fish, someone should be able to anonymously report that. And you should be able to do that through social media without having a digital ID that shows exactly who you are. And they can shut you down. It's just like, I don't know. It's sketchy times, man.

Well, sketchy times. I mean the same company, that company, Pallon, here that was doing all that crazy stuff in in Gaza and they were like you know the own running all the drones and stuff like this allegedly what are you talking about what do you what are you saying they did that they had like we're compiling data on people that were there and they were operating a lot of the drones in the sky that also had weapons attached to them okay so you mean like facial recognition data right do they have that capability with drones where they could just zoom around

is this horseshit it's real Jamie's not even willing to talk on camera he's just I'll be quiet then I'm sure they do no no no no they got a big contract in America now

which is scary to me that's what's scary to me that a drone could go by that maybe that's what happened to Charlie Kirk who knows maybe a drone you just have no who you can even point the finger at a bullet comes out of the middle of nowhere true that's a kind of I'm not saying

I'm paranoid about it all the time I'm just saying I have Listen, you're right. However, China's making drones, and they're making really good ones, way more sophisticated in our drones. If you don't have drone development and some kind of drone defense system in America, you just, if you say, oh, no one should have that kind of power, you're right, no one should have that kind of power. However, China already does. So if you just have no innovation and you have no way to implement any kind of defense system with drones in America. but it's already in China, and it's already in Russia.

You're kind of in trouble. Okay, so you have to have something in that space. You've got to be moving forward into like, yeah, you've got to have the weapons. If they're already, it's like the nuclear bomb. If they're already doing it, you better fucking get it. Right. You better get it. I think, yeah, to me it's just scary that the company that was allegedly doing that there

is the company that we hired to, like, I believe create a database and have some of the same opportunities here. Or they could potentially be able to do the same thing here. To me, it just kind of tracks where it's like... Yeah, well, any one private company that has a database and all the information on every person and where you are and what you're doing. Yeah, that's sketchy. What are you woofing?

What's going on? I'm looking at the story, the reporting on this. It's that absolute power corrupts absolutely thing. You know, this is like absolute power. One AI system is called the gospel. Another one's called Where's Daddy? Oh, Jesus Christ. They're used to identify people.

One of them is called Lavender. That sounds lovely. AI enabled data processing system developed and used by the Israeli occupation forces in their, this says, genocidal campaign against Gaza, have caught widespread attention, prompting journalists to call Gaza the site of the first AI-powered genocide. AI technology was reportedly first used in Gaza during Israel's 11-day assault in 2021, during the ongoing genocide for the first time it's being used to kill Palestinians at an unprecedented level. and at much faster rates. These three known systems identify targets for airstrikes based on Israeli mass surveillance records of the Palestinians in Gaza that have been collected for years by the IOF under the racist framework of monitoring what they deem as threats

to the Israeli regime. This is from Palestine-studies.org. So who knows also how... Yeah, this is, I mean, it's obviously... Going to be favored towards them. Yeah. But listen, I absolutely believe they have that kind of technology where they can recognize your face from the air. The scariest part to me, Jamie, will you bring it back up for one more second?

The scariest part to me was just the quickness they could do it and then like the review, right? Like a few Israeli intelligence agents shared with plus 972 magazine that they personally only take 20 seconds to review and approve the air strike recommendation. Using a time only to confirm if the target is a male. Whoa. It's unclear if this is actual policy. What is that? So this is... But yeah, this started making me feel...

They shared... Okay, so they shared this in a magazine. They shared this is... So they said this in an interview in a magazine, that it only takes 20 seconds to review. And the time is only to confirm if the target's a male. It's unclear if this is actual policy. In August, however, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights released a statement revealing that the majority of those killed in Gaza are women and children. So here's the other thing.

obviously horrible things have happened there, right? But if you're getting your information from the people where the horrible things are happening, it's hard to know if they're being accurate. You know, I don't know if it is truly that they're mostly killing women and children. Yeah. Or if a good percentage of them have actually been Hamas agents, I don't know.

Yeah, I think that's what Israel says, right? They say that a lot of them were Hamas. Yeah, there's like two-year-old Hamas agents. They were fine in shooting, which, who knows? I don't know, who knows? Well, I bet they probably think about them as future. Especially now when you've blown up their fucking city. Oh.

You know, I mean, how many, if there were terrorists there, how many are created by watching something like that happened, quite a bit? Well, the thing for me, I just thought, like, that America would come help at some point. That was a scary. I think that's when I just thought, like, oh, I just have a different concept of what's going on. Or also, these are just my thoughts. I don't know what's going on.

And I don't need anybody to believe my thoughts or think the same way I do. I think the thing that made me nervous was. that that same company, Palantir, got a deal in America to create a database and help with, like, surveillance and stuff. So that just makes me scared, you know, and maybe a little bit nervous, not scared, but just, like, a little bit, like, what's going on here? Are we going to enter a surveillance state, you know? Well, that's one of the arguments for letting chaos take place. One of the arguments for letting crime, letting criminals back out, is that you make it so dangerous that in order to make it safe, you have to put restrictions on people. And that's the only way.

And you show that it's effective. and then people comply, and then everybody has a digital ID. The government tracks you. Like, you know, like that Life 360 app where you can track all your friends, track all your family. Yeah, see if your wife's running around and you, whatever. Yeah, and the government can do that as well. The government can do that as well.

Yeah. Well, I think one thing that made that I thought... Do you know how crazy that is? To allow the government to constantly know where you are and what you're doing and constantly you'll be looking over your shoulder. So you're going to self-censor. You're going to be scared. You're going to be scared to talk

because your phone's going to be listening. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, crazy. We mentioned Chuck Schumer and then you opened your phone. That's nuts. I mean, that was...

Yeah, what's the possibility of that? And that was momentarily later. Yeah, momentarily later, the algorithm recognized that I was talking about Chuck Schumer. That was... Let's see if it works. Big fat tits.

I mean, big fat tits. Okay, big fat tits on your 45-year-old step-mom. Oh, I'm not talking about... Here we go. That fucking... Imagine if it just immediately... That front porch. It goes to...

Nope. I got head kicked. What about the explore page? Would you buy a... I'll check my explore page real quick. Would you buy a cat off a Facebook marketplace? Sure, why not? Okay, I wouldn't.

If it's a cute cat... Fuck that, bro. That looks fun. Look, dude. I'm not buying a cat. Oh, yeah. Right in my for you page. Let me see one of them, huh?

Hey, how about this? Right in my for you page. text something random to someone and then give it five minutes and check your like four you pages on an app right away it's ladies with large boobs I say hey let me see one of them and guess what the other one looks like

that's my old trick and you're like I don't know I bet that other one's weird looking that one's too perfect there's no way they both look the same dude I used to do this fun show you Theo I used to do this fun thing

I would have if I sat next to somebody in an airplane I would have them draw a picture of their kids. Like if they had kids, I'd like, draw a picture of your kids. And dude, it would be the most fucking ridiculous-looking picture. But it would always be pretty fun, you know? Yeah, I think I was just concerned about, like, if that's the company that does it here. So that's, like, where my brain tracks, like, are running down to that. And no, that should be scary.

That's why I think ice, that's why I think all the ice stuff happened. Because I think they have to get everybody on the books. This isn't about, like, they have to do an inventory now of everyone because they're going to need. Otherwise, when it's a surveillance state, it's all going to know if you're not, like, documented or on the bill of sale or whatever, it's going to be, or you're not on the inventory list. If you're not inventoried in the country, then it will know, the machine will know immediately, oh, this isn't, you're not even supposed to be here, right? So that's why I think that the ice stuff is happening because I think one of the reasons is they have to get everything inventoried. I see what you're saying I think the I stuff is happening

a lot of it's because of political power it's congressional seats because the census just counts people they don't count legal citizens and when you let people come over here illegally and then you give them food and you give them Medicare what happens is those people are going to vote for you

if they can and they're also going to count they're going to stay they're going to and so they count in your district has congressional seats that's what's crazy They only count the people They don't count the citizens So if you get as many people in as possible

You can take over congressional seats And if you make it really easy For those people to get by Like they say hey California is a place to go They don't give a fuck You can be illegal there nobody cares Which is what way it was basically Until I started arresting people

It's always been like that I mean what percentage of people Do you run into LA in LA that are illegals A lot and no one cares It's always been like that I don't care yeah It's not a problem for me Now all of a sudden they're getting arrested

But there is the argument that by having people that came over illegally, you change the congressional map. You do. You get more seats, you know, and that's kind of crazy. That's kind of crazy. It's all fun. It just feels like, I don't know, it feels like very little, like, I don't know. It feels like a lot of different things. But you're right.

I think you just have to focus in on things that are important, you know. Well, it's an easy way to increase your population, man. make it so people can definitely come over make it so cut holes in the fence for them you ever see when they did that they cut holes in the fence like some people would put up like these fucking heavy duty fences and here

put that titty bar right there you put a titty bar right there boy you should have a bottle of water sales is the better move water and tits what about that together I think generally people like alcohol with their tits

I don't know if you've been in the desert for a couple days that's true it's a good point Very good point Where's my pook marks? Here it is I'll send you this Jeremy Because this is kind of crazy

When you watch it You're like what What could you possibly be doing here Other than purposely letting people into the country I think there was a lot of that And I think there's a lot of that Because they want cheap labor too

That was something that someone told me once That they were stunned That a CEO said that they were against These Border Enforcement Because they want a cheap laborer labor. So they said it right out to him. Look at this. Biden Harris sent forklifts to open the border when Texas built a razor wall. It's all insane. Like, why would you do that? Wait a minute.

You did what? You sent a forklift to open up the razor wire? What? But do you think that they all know that the other parties just do, like, do you think that they all go behind closed doors and be like, okay, what are you guys going to do this month? And then we're going to do this. And it's all just of this theatrics? No, I don't think they coordinate like that. I think they hate each other. No. But this is nuts, man.

This is like genuinely nuts. And by the way, I feel for these people. I would do the same thing. I would 100% be in line. I see these people with their babies hoping for a chance at a better life in America. They're not the problem. The problem is cartel people

and the whole congressional seats thing. That's the problem. Well, these people have all have become pawns. They'll send information to the countries that they live in and get them to come it's like listen if the population you're right I didn't mean to interrupt you no it's I don't even know probably what I was saying but

I don't know if the population we're increasing the population that's what I'm saying we're better than this you and I are yes as people we are better than this and we have all this elected officials and these people that we thought were like us sociopaths when does that end

that's a good question and can it end do you think there's a way to end it It's going to be hard. My suspicion is it ends when AI starts sorting government. We're probably going to use AI with government to prevent this kind of fuckery that we see on an everyday basis. AI will logically make decisions as to like what makes sense and what doesn't make sense about a current legal structure. Like some things that like if people become politicians, and the reason why they become politicians

is they know they can inside trade with Nancy Pelosi and make hundreds of millions of dollars like she did like that's crazy that can't be that way anymore and I think any intelligent like artificial intelligence that's not attached to an ideology or a party is going to immediately

if they both agree if the America votes on it and say we want AI to take a look at the government and AI immediately goes like you can't do that you can't do this like this is this is bad this is evil. This is a lie. This is truth. And you're suppressing it. And then we probably don't have anything remotely like the government we have now. Because I think that mind reading

software, it's already in beta, right? It's already, they're already able to communicate, going back and forth, asking each other questions. They are. They have headsets. You don't even have to get an implant. Is it Google that did that, Jamie? What was the company that did that, where they were asking each other questions and then answering them. It's not Google. I don't even think that's available yet, but... No, but it's in beta.

The point is, it's in beta. So they're doing this already. And as this stuff gets more potent, it's going to be just like we used to have little flip phones without a color screen, and now you have an iPhone. And it's going to be that.

It's going to go from, you used to be able to just ask each other questions to we can all read each other's minds. It's coming, man. And when that happens, Turtle Face, that Mitch McColl you can't you can't operate anymore as a leader you can't know you're you're seeing now is what you are you're an agent of money you're a money agent moving money and influence around you're not

doing it for the greater good of people by any stretch of the imagination and also how are you still working when you windows 98 on us every now and then yeah that guy just freezes up you ever see him yeah because his his freaking his his his his his uh you ever see him lock up Just lock up. How is that guy still able to make decisions on anything? His receptors are down. You fucking see his receptors go down? Do you think he's a robot?

You think he's not a robot? What do you think at this point? That guy? They can't even, they didn't even update his lips to fucking, yes. If there's a robot, it's RFK Jr. Imagine we found out, imagine if Candice comes out and she does a deep dive and said there was no RFK Jr. Do you know that? All those photos are AI.

This is a, there's no evidence of him whatsoever until 2021. And she's like, and what is this here? RFK Jr. has a camel toe. What is this here? It was born a woman. He's the first. Dude, Candace is the best, dude. I went to see, she has, her and her husband have four of the most beautiful kids in the world.

And they're so funny. And you go over there and they're just like dying, laughing. And one of them looks just like her. It's so funny, dude. Do you think she's right about that French president? Isn't it? Oh, the wiener? Yes.

Whether or not he is married to a man. She's all in on that, bro. Oh, she's all in. Well, they're suing her, aren't they? I think they are. I don't know if they still are. I think they're at least threatening a lawsuit. It's like for like 50 million bucks.

We we, we,ner. That would be my, if she ever writes a book, that's got to be it. But, dude, it is kind of strange that the guy is dating his teacher. Right? Or when he was like 40 and the kid was 15. Or she was 40, even if it was a she. Like, what? And again, this is France.

They're very different over there. Pedophilia is just like, oh, get your weed out of that child. We ne'i. Where have you done? We ne'er. He's almost 15. Bro, if she does, she better have a hog on her. I bet she doesn't.

That's what I'm saying. I don't know if she has the body style. to have a real fucking hog on her and that if they release the last thing needs the last thing

France needs is to release like a weener that looks like it's retreating kind of it will just go down and this

they need to release a fucking hug did you see that information that Hitler might have had a micropinus they got genes

from Hitler's blood and it seems to indicate that he had a genetic disorder that would lead you to have a micropinus which totally

makes sense right I'm not surprised these days. About Hitler? Why would you be surprised? Hitler would be the guy I would think would have a micro penis. A guy wants to kill everybody and take over the world? Oh, yeah. Yeah, a little tiny dick.

I make it bigger. And he's fucking doing coke and heroin and all. He was doing oxycodone, man. And he had his whole army on meth. Yeah, that's fucking wild. With a little dick. Just running everything. A iron fist.

The making of a tyrant, how Hitler's Deformed genitals shaped his personality Whoa Here's the thing though Here's a thing If you had a little dick You would always check and make sure You'd be like fuck it's still little

That's what would happen all the time Or every day you'd woke up you'd be like It'd be like the mass singer you'd like Open your pants and hope it was something He knows I think he knows This is dick as little He's like now everyone gets punished Fucking Poland

Polish guys The big old hogs He's probably jealous Yeah brother I think that yeah I don't know. In the future, I don't even know if they got little dicks in the future. I think that's what aliens are. That's us, generalists. You know how they got the DNA? Oh.

From the blood-soaked couch, he apparently blew his brains out on it, says. Oh, they saved that? Yeah, it says the first guy that found it took a piece of the couch, saved it, and they studied that. Wow. Which some people think that didn't happen. Yeah, some people think he got moved to Argentina, right? Yeah, this also said there's only a one in 10 chance he had a micropinus. Oh, that's a lot of chances.

I don't like those odds. I ain't playing a Russian roulette with a revolver with 10 rounds in it. Fuck that. All right, I got a piece. We got to wrap this up. Dude, have to peece so bad, dude. Thank you. I'm glad we waited. I love you.

You are. You're the best. I love you, too, man. Thanks for, yeah, thanks for everything. Thanks for things. It's fun hanging with you, as always. Goodbye, everybody. Thank you.