The Joe Rogan Experience - #2414 - Brian Simpson

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan podcast checking out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night All day Uh, did you watch it? Did you watch the UFC? No, just on the lights. Islam Makachov.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Fuck, dude goes up one weight class, goes up to 170, he was the 55 pound Most dominant champion ever, Most title defense is the 55 ever Just dominates at 170. Like, every round. People are, saying it's boring but listen
Starting point is 00:00:32 man it's boring if you're a casual the fact that he was able to do it every round it was a little frustrating because you want a jack to try to adjust but he couldn't man is Islam shut his game down right away he low kick the shit out of his front leg
Starting point is 00:00:47 real quick had him limping real quick like within the first round he had hit it three or four times bad I imagine being Khabi you know just your protegees is coming in And Khabib's even better than him. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:01 That's what's so crazy. That's how good those guys are. But Kibb's not better stand-up, though. Islam has really good stand-up. Like his stand-up, Khabi's stand-up was a means to an end. It was like his stand-up was to crack you so he'd get a hold of you and fuck you up, just drag you to the ground and smash you. That was Khabi's move.
Starting point is 00:01:20 But Islam is fucking Koehowing people, man. It's different. He's different. He's head-kicking Volkanovsky. It's like a different level of stand-up. Yeah, Khabi said, you're going to be better than me. Crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:33 The Pakistani boys is here to stay. You know what's crazy, dude? Bala Muhammad, you know, who was the champ at Welterweight, went down to Dagestan and trained with those guys. And he was like, I thought I trained hard. I really did. I thought I trained hard until I trained with those guys. That's all I'm going to follow that. If I ever have a son, I'm just dropping him.
Starting point is 00:01:49 As soon as he hit puberty, I'm dropping him off in Dagestan. He said, leave him here, forget. That's the thing they always say. Take him to Dagestan, two, three years, forget. Yeah, for real. For real. Then he comes back telling you what the dude. How are you going to fuck with that?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Because that's real. That's how those dudes are really rolling out there. That's how they're really living. They pray five times a day. They're super religious. There's no gambling. There's no drinking. There's no partying.
Starting point is 00:02:15 There's just training. Just training and training with a bunch of fucking animals. Eating together, training together. Just getting after it every day. And then it's iron sharpens iron. Everyone who comes out of there is a fucking killer. Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, you got to be real. Most people don't want to live that life. Yeah. And they don't forgive the disrespect. No. They just fucked Dylan Dennis up this past weekend. Did you see that? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah. Yeah. They don't forget. You got to watch what you say. Bro. And they're, you know. DeAgostanis, they're not talking shit for promotional purposes. No.
Starting point is 00:02:55 No, no, no. You got to be real careful. No. That's down in the marrow of the bones. Do you think that there would ever be, like, do you think Connor could ever apologize to Khabib and, like, Barry the Hatchet? Was it too?
Starting point is 00:03:06 He would have to, it would have to be in private, and he would have to really mean it, man, you know? He would have to really mean it, and you'd have to convince Kabebeep that you really meant it. And that it was all, you know, because he just doesn't play that game, that talking shit to sell a fight game. He doesn't play that game.
Starting point is 00:03:24 No, especially when it comes to, like, his wife, his people. Oh, everything, man. Everything. I saw the clip of DC saying like he did he had like Connor on his show one time and Kabee was like no what's that about yeah like that's my enemy right and you're my friend yeah and you know DC was like oh yeah I had to I didn't look at it that way but I had to check myself like yeah because you're if you're a journalist if you're or if you're doing a podcast you're gonna have some people on that don't like people that are close to you but you got
Starting point is 00:03:51 like that can only go to a certain level you know if someone is your like sworn enemy And this other guy's your training partner and your brother, you can't really have that guy on. Oh, yeah, of course not. Absolutely not. Like, there's no scenario where Khabib was going to be friendly with John Jones because he knows the history. Like, he might be respectful, but he ain't going to catch him kicking it.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah. Nah. Well, I think John and D.C. have pretty much buried the hatchet. Really? Yeah. I think they have. I think they communicated. I think they've had some interaction.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You know, it's like, look, when you have done, two bitter rivals like that and one guy comes out on top, it's just always going to be that way, always forever. Yeah, because they're different kind of people. I forget that sometimes. Like the competitive, the people that are like ultra competitive. Totally different kinds of human beings, man. It doesn't go away.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Their drive is, it's like, you don't understand it. You don't live it, you know? And, like, wrestlers, like elite wrestlers are the only people that train the way, like, Khabib and his group train. In any other combat sport, like, if you're coming over from kickboxing and, you know, and then you want to fight MMA, and, you know, you think, well, I've already trained, like, an animal already, like, mm. Yeah. There's a difference. There's a difference in the kind of exhaustion that you get from, like, hardcore wrestling training. And that's something that these guys have that, it's like, that's why wrestling is the number one base for MMA. Because anybody who gets really good at wrestling, you got to.
Starting point is 00:05:27 be a fucking animal you got to be a fucking animal I wrestled in high school the first couple years and it was like I was like this ain't for me you know it was it was hard it's hardcore man like so hard it's because besides the technique and stuff
Starting point is 00:05:43 you have to be able to suffer you're training to suffer yeah and they break you all the way down every single practice training to suffer and then the losing weight the losing weight and competing on the same day you know I when to school with this kid he was five six all his brothers like six foot six foot one it's because
Starting point is 00:06:02 he wrestled all throughout his childhood and cut weight all through his childhood he essentially starved himself and stunted his growth well my friend Jeffrey um you know burner used to work at the club he uh used to perform at the club but he he's a he was a wrestling guy you know did real well in California and all that and now he like he doesn't he doesn't know when he's hungry oh Jesus Christ You know, like, he just has to eat because he's like, oh, I haven't eaten and, but his, whatever connection it is, like, he broke it.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, like, he'll forget to eat. That's crazy. Yeah. It's like, that, it can really fuck with you. So usually it fucks with guys the other way where they cut weight too long and then they just blow up like balloons when they don't have to fight anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:45 They get crazy and they just can't stop eating. They develop really eating disorders. It's really common amongst guys who cut weight. Well, that's when I quit. I did a tournament, and it was the first tournament my brother was coming to see me. and I miss weight by a pound or something like that and so I still got to wrestle
Starting point is 00:07:04 but it was like in the losers bracket or wrestled the people off on the side and there was a guy that he had on what I know now is an insulin pump but I didn't know at the time oh you told me this yeah and he just kept fucking me up because I didn't I was scared to hurt him
Starting point is 00:07:21 and he didn't give a fuck about me and I got my ass whooped and then when it was finally all over I was like And I went to the vending machine and I fucking opened the snickle bar and my coach came over and he was like, what the fuck are you doing? You know, I was like, well, the tournament's over.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He was like, you miss weight and you're going to come over here and eat snacks. And I was one of them kids were like, I was just defiant. And I was like, fuck you. You know, and that was the last time he saw me. I was like, I'm like, you know? Because if that's what this is going to be,
Starting point is 00:07:52 I can't do it. No snacks after losing. Yeah, especially missing weight. I mean, looking back, he had a point. How much did you miss it by? A pound. I miss it by, because, you know, it's like you can't, it's certain households where, like, you know, my mama didn't give a fuck about no making weight. You're going to eat that food.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You know, it wasn't like, I didn't have control over my diet. Right. Yeah. So then you just have to run it off. Yeah, run it off. Do you ever figure out how much calories you actually, like, burn when you do a hard workout? It's not as much as you think Like this dude
Starting point is 00:08:28 I forget what he ate But he had some crazy meal With like fucking pancakes, pizza and all kinds of shit Like 10,000 calories or something like that And then he went running to burn off the calories And he tracked it like on an app He ran for 10 hours He ran like 30 miles
Starting point is 00:08:46 Because he was a dude's in really good shape But when he did this Like he was tracking like where his cow How many calories he had burned so far and it took him like a marathon like 30 hours of running to burn off a thousand calories 30 miles rather 30 miles of running no it was more than it was like 10 000 calories whatever it was you know i forget what he ate it was like pancakes and all kinds of crazy shit very calorie but the purpose was like to see what happens if you eat all this stuff like what does it actually
Starting point is 00:09:18 take to burn this off so he measures all the calories and then he just goes out running it's kind of disappointing when you realize it takes a long time it takes a long time to burn off 10,000 calories like that's a lot of working out that's why I'm all I know I'm going to stay fat till I die you know I got this I got this roll machine and then like it tries to tell you how many it is it is more discouraging than anything I had to turn that shit off did you lose any weight when you did that carnivore diet for a month oh yeah how much did you lose um I don't know maybe like 10 pounds. Yeah, well, imagine if you did that for like six months. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Do you think you could? The diet is everything. Yeah, that's the whole way to lose weight. You don't really lose weight in the gym. I mean, you do. You lose a little weight. Your body gets toned. You get healthier. That's all good. But the real way you lose weight is your diet. Yeah, yeah. It's just discipline. It's hard. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:10:14 It was easier when I was poor. Yeah. You know? Of course. Yeah. Of course. It's, because I always, I try to tell people this, but it's like, when you're your own boss you can't also be a shitty employee
Starting point is 00:10:29 right you know like I'm the one setting the rules but I'm also the one enforcing the rules and I'm like you good yeah that's funny get it next time
Starting point is 00:10:39 yeah you almost have to create a boss in your brain for like certain things that you have to do like a general just tells you what to do yes sir you just fucking go do it gotta be a robot
Starting point is 00:10:49 David Goggins could could definitely sell an app which is a motivation He could, but... He just calls you a bitch every morning. I mean, really all he need to do is just go watch his videos. If you want to get motivated, just go watch that guy's videos.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah. Do people ever go to, like, just go stay with him? Yeah, he's just done that before. David Eiler, is that who, what? No, what was his name? What he stayed with? Yeah, the dude that wrote the book. Fuck. I can't believe I can't remember his name. Like, he's on some, like, Diamond Dallas page
Starting point is 00:11:20 shit, well, like, he'll just... Well, he... Not really. This dude was writing a book. Jesse Itzler? Yes. That's it. Stayed with him.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And, you know, David's like, all right, we're going to train. And, you know, you're going to do whatever the fuck I tell you to do. And we're going to do it. I forget how many days he did it for. He wrote a book about it, right? Like living with a Navy SEAL? I think he did it for like 30 days. You probably got to pass a physical just to...
Starting point is 00:11:50 Well, yeah, you could die. You could definitely die. You could definitely have a heart. But see, that's the thing he don't care if he die. Right. Yeah. Remember he had something, something happened, some kind of heart thing. Rabdo mylosis.
Starting point is 00:12:00 He had rabdo mylosis. He's had a bunch of things. He's had heart surgery. But he had rabdo mylosis that he got because rabdo is when you push yourself so hard. Let's put that into perplexity, our sponsor, and find out exactly what rabdomilis is. Because I'm going to fuck this up. What is perplexity? We got an AI sponsor.
Starting point is 00:12:19 No bullshit. Perplexity, yeah. Was like a doctor? No, it's an AI. It's an AI large language model, and it gives you answers. So process is when muscle tissue damaged by trauma, excessive exercise, prolonged immobility, metabolic, or genetic disorders, infections, toxins, or certain medications. So obviously, in David Goggins' case, excessive exercise. So the muscle cell breaks down, substances like myoglobin, creatine, kinase, electrolytes, and enzymes leak into the blood.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Myoglobin filtered by the kidneys can cause urine to turn dark brown or red, and in large amounts can cause acute kidney failure. So when your piss starts looking like Diet Coke, that's when you know you got a problem. I think you just gave Hollywood the worst idea. Instead of people coughing into a napkin so you know they're sick, they're taking a piss, it's going to turn with syrup. Well, it's only if someone works out so hard that your body's breaking down. That's really what it is. Like you're literally working yourself to death. Yeah, but then this crazy motherfucker
Starting point is 00:13:23 finished the race Mm-hmm, he went to the hospital He went to the hospital, recovered in the hospital Went back to the exact spot where he stopped And completed the race And then did like 100 push-ups at this finish line He's like you just went to the hospital For doing extra
Starting point is 00:13:38 You just can't You know, you just have to accept That's who he is That's who he is He's got no knee cartilage He still runs He's just a different He's a different human
Starting point is 00:13:49 but again it's like the Dagestan thing like there's levels to discipline and commitment and those guys have it's a very high it's also like very high level training too it's not just discipline it's like they're very technical abdulmanop who is uh kabib's dad was a phenomenal trainer just just phenomenal but where did where did he learn all of this well it's all you know russian sambo and they all have like a long history of like i think dad, let's, let's Google this just to make sure I'm not speaking out of my ass. But, you know, you got to think like Sambo or Combat Sambo is, that's where Fader Emilienenko came from, too.
Starting point is 00:14:31 So Russian Sambo is like MMA, but they wear like a judo ghee top, and they have shorts on and wrestling shoes, MMA gloves, and fucking headgear. And they have Combat Sambo championships. They throw each other using the Ghi. They have ground and pound, they're kicking and punching. It's a crazy sport. So it's like a judo mixed with... It's like judo mixed with MMA.
Starting point is 00:14:57 But they're wearing wrestling shoes. Like, it's really kind of crazy. But there's no ground and pound? There's ground and pound. Yeah, it's basically kind of MMA. So Abdulmanov, he was named by the Russian Book of Records as the most successful combat Sambo coach in the country. So he was the head coach of Eagles' MMA,
Starting point is 00:15:15 coached two UFC champions. his son, Khabib Nirmagmatov, as well as Islamakachev. But so he practiced from a young age while serving in the Soviet Army, Soviet Army began to practice judo and Samba for as big success as a coach, came in his brother. Nirmagomed Mn Mn Madov,
Starting point is 00:15:33 won at the World Sambo Championship for Ukraine's national team in 92. He trained a total of 18 world champions through his coaching career. That's how good that guy was. 18 world champions. That's crazy. Show him a video of Combat Sambo
Starting point is 00:15:48 How about show Fedor competing in Combat Sambo It's kind of crazy when you see him Because he was competing in Combat Sambo I believe while he was also fighting in MMA He was still competing for Russia in Combat Sambo And there's a difference between Combat Sambo and some other kind Yeah, well there's Sambo Which is like just the grappling art of Sambo
Starting point is 00:16:11 But look at this They're fighting with punches with the grapples with the grappling gear on and shoes on. This is crazy, right? Oh, wow. Isn't that nuts? They got wrestling shoes on, shin pads. Oh, no knees.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah. They can't throw knees here? Is that what's going on? I don't know. I don't know what the rules are. Because I feel like if they could, he would have thrown him right there. Pretty crazy, man. So that's Fador when he was world champion in MMA.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Maybe the greatest of all time. He's definitely in the argument of the greatest of all time. Fador? Yeah. The argument is the argument. Because him came Velazquez for heavyweight, Francis and Ghanu, and John Jones now that he's a heavyweight, but he hasn't really, the only heavyweights that he really beat, he beat Stepe when Steepay was kind of the end of his career. and he beat gone, but he caught gone in a guillotine real early. Clearly, one of the greatest fires of all time.
Starting point is 00:17:09 But the argument of him being the greatest heavyweight, he's only got two heavyweight fights. Then the other guy is Fabricio Verduim. Fabrice Over Doom. On paper has one of the best arguments, because he tapped everybody. He tapped all the world champions. And people forget, man,
Starting point is 00:17:25 because they only look at a guy when the guy's lost. Like, MMA fans, once someone loses and they start, they have a few losses in the realm, people forget how good they were when they were in their prime. And Fabricio Verduem in his prime tapped Fado Armilienenko, Kane Velasquez, and Minotaro and Ogera, which is crazy. What are you saying there's a window, right? Was it nine years?
Starting point is 00:17:48 It's about nine years. But I feel like that heavyweight window gets short and real fast. What's the most defenses in the heavyweight? It's steep. It's like two or three, right? Let's find out. It's just three. Depe Miochich is the, he's the consensus most successful heavyweight of all time.
Starting point is 00:18:07 You could say maybe he's the greatest of all time. You know, it's all when you catch him. I mean, the guy got through Francis in that first fight when Francis was just like taking people's heads off. Like they were attached with sticky glue. With three, yeah, three. You would think it would be more than three, right? Oh, man. Because like all the other weight class was like, what's light heavy weight?
Starting point is 00:18:28 It's like five. Well, he's got four. Hold on. Scroll back up. Oh, this thing is three in a row. Yeah, three in a row, but he's got the most title defenses. Scroll back up, please. This episode is brought to you by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer.
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Starting point is 00:19:40 Happy Dad, hard seltzer. Tea and lemonade is a malt alcohol located in Orange County, California. So he's got the most title defenses in the division's history with four. Oh, right, because he took the belt back from Kormier. Right. And then defend it against Kormier. And then defended against Francis. which was the craziest one.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And then lost it to Francis. No, no, no. Defended against Francis. Oh, no, no, I fucked this up. Defended against Francis then got knocked out by Cormier. Carmier knocked him out after the Francis fight. No, you're absolutely right. Then they fought a second time and Steebe beat him, stopped him.
Starting point is 00:20:19 That was the time when he was hooking him to the body. Body shots, yeah. Oh, my God. He had that beautiful left hook to the body that he just had wired. So he beat Daniel. He beat Daniel again. He beat him by decision. And then the third fight, and then in the next one he fought, scroll up,
Starting point is 00:20:34 and the next one he fought Francis again and got caoed. And that was a brutal one. And then John Jones hit him with that beautiful spitting back kick to the body. But it's like he's in the argument, too, for one of the greatest of all time. My thing about Fabricio, though, is like people forget, like, how hard it is to submit a guy like Fedor Emilienico or a guy like King Velasquez and to be the guy that submits It's all, like, out of the guys who you consider possibly all-time grades, he submitted three of them. That's nuts.
Starting point is 00:21:05 When the last guest first came on the scene, I thought nobody was going to be able to beat him. Bro, he was a monster because he was a heavyweight with cardio like a lightweight. It was nuts, nothing like that. Yeah, but everybody has their day, man. There's nobody that's going to beat him. Well, what happened with Kane is he didn't adjust to Mexico City. So they had to fight Kane and Fabricio fought in Mexico City
Starting point is 00:21:30 And Mexico City, I think, is like 7,000 feet above sea level Word? Yeah Put that in there Let's see what complexity says about that I'm pretty sure that's the case though I think it's about 7,000 feet above sea level And it's real thin air
Starting point is 00:21:43 Also, it's a lot of pollution So it's not like the best air Like it's not much air And it's polluted And Fabricio Got there way early like months, months in advance, 7,350 feet, yeah, above sea level. So, real high altitude already.
Starting point is 00:22:05 So your cardio is already going to be taxed if you're a heavyweight. Yeah, that's crazy. That's 2,000 feet above Denver. Well, why didn't he go? Did he have a good reason? I think there was some domestic issues. Oh, man. I think someone didn't want him leaving, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He only got a chance to be out there, I think, for two weeks. And that's not enough time. That's not even close. Not even close. Fabrizio was up there, I think, for six months. I think they told him that he was going to be fighting for the title, and I think he went up there for, I might be talking out of school, but it was many months.
Starting point is 00:22:37 It was at least four months. And he was up in the mountains above Mexico City. So he's like, fuck it, let's go 9,000 feet. Let's get crazy. And so got accustomed to even higher altitude. And then when he came down, he was in prime shape. And he caught Cain and a guillotine and submitted him. It was nuts.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I was like seeing him He's like I said He submitted three of the greatest of all time Like that That alone you got to think So he showed up two months Early for Doom did his homework Prior to the fight
Starting point is 00:23:08 Showed up two months early And established a training camp In the mountains conditioning his body Even higher elevation around 12,000 feet So I was wrong on both counts It wasn't four months It was two months And he was at 12,000 feet
Starting point is 00:23:20 Which is fucking crazy Yeah that's um He said for the first two weeks I was here felt as if I'd never trained before at all I was so tired So if you got used to doing that Okay so okay Kane only went 10 days early
Starting point is 00:23:36 Oh my God I feel like that's some shit that George St. Pierre would do Just for every fight Just get an oxygen deprivation tank or something Well BJ was doing that for a while BJ Penn was sleeping in a tent See it was a plastic tent That he would seal off and would sleep inside of it
Starting point is 00:23:53 like you put it up around his bed and there was a thing that you that sucked oxygen out of the air there and it made it like you were sleeping at high elevation apparently that's the move the move is sleep at high elevation but train at low elevation and the reason for that is when you train at low elevation you have more oxygen you can get more reps you can put in more rounds you can put in more work so and then the recovery is where you really want your body to be adapting. So then once you're done training, go back up. Like say if you were training in like in the valley and then you went up to Big Bear and you were sleeping at Big Bear, which is like, I think Big Bear is like 6,000 feet or something like that. But doesn't that only work if you're, if the fight is that, it's not an elevation? Like if you're fighting you. No. No, the idea is sleeping at altitude is all you need. Sleeping at altitude gets your body. the whole thing is about getting your body to sort of adapt to this new altitude. So if you just sleep at altitude, you can fight at altitude.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Exactly. Oh, okay. Exactly. You'll have more oxygen. You'll have more. And you'll be able to work harder. Like this. So it's like they used to think training and sleeping at altitude is the move.
Starting point is 00:25:09 But now they think actually it's probably better. And maybe this is debated. I'm not sure if like the, the consensus is out. but I think what they're saying now is train at sea level and then sleep at altitude which makes sense it makes sense
Starting point is 00:25:27 that's for people that's already training yeah definitely definitely I've run out of breath just going up to altitude that's why Denver whenever you go to Denver like I love doing comedy there but it's so it's so dry
Starting point is 00:25:43 it's so dry your book is get sharp Yep. Yeah, your nose starts to bleed. Yeah, your skin is all flaky and shit. There's no air. And then, you know, you can get higher than that, too. You can go to Aspen. When they used to have the Aspen Comedy Festival, they used to have oxygen waiting for you backstage.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Word. Yeah. K's dudes started fainting. Why did they stop that? I don't know. I think, you know, they stopped a bunch of those comedy festivals. They had, where was the original one was in Montreal, and then they started doing an Aspen. And I think they did it in Vegas, too.
Starting point is 00:26:15 for a while, if I remember correctly. That was the same people? But it used to, see, those things used to be effective. It used to be, you would take time off the road, go to Montreal, do your best set, and maybe you'd get a development deal, and if you got a development deal, maybe you'd get a sitcom.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That was the whole, that was the carrot that they dangled on the end of the stick. Career changing. Yeah, like, for some people, it was career changing, it really was. But that stopped. And then so it was like, why are we going to these festivals because I'm not getting anything out of this other than you selling tickets.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Well, I think that that's happened, that happened to, what happened to most of the institutions in comedy or just show business period is the people that used to be the tastemakers, the people that used to tell the business who was next. I think people get,
Starting point is 00:27:04 because this happens all the time, there'll be some good, there'll be somebody will start a comedy show, then all of a sudden somebody will make it from that show. And then it becomes the show in the scene or in the city and then they start wanting to maintain that reputation so instead of them just fucking with who they believe in
Starting point is 00:27:20 they'll wait to see who has a little momentum so they kind of give it up they wait for the industry to tell them who's popping right and yeah it happened to the store it happened to JFL it happened to all this place and maybe people maybe it's coming back now but you also have to realize who are these people they're just people that got jobs
Starting point is 00:27:39 working for whatever media company that is whether it's NBC or Netflix or whatever it is. They're just people that got jobs. They might not have any idea, like how a joke is made, what the process is of developing material, who's got talent, who's derivative. They might not have any idea. But what they do is they lick their fucking finger and they hold it up in whichever way the wind's blowing, they pretend they're a genius. And that's what they do. And oftentimes they'll dismiss someone who turns out to be the best one of the lot.
Starting point is 00:28:12 real common man and then they always want to stand by those ideas like I don't see it and like okay the guy's fucking selling out arenas I think you missed it and but it happens a lot yeah it happens a lot with these folks because they're they're not artists they're just business people and they're pretending to be artists it's weird like some of them give you advice but some people do have like there's a there's a there's a talent for dealing with talent that some people do have Adam Eaget. Right. Adam Eaget's a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Because Adam is an artist whose, like, job is to be a talent coordinator. But he's genuinely an artist. Like, he's, he gets it. He thinks like a comic. He behaves like a comic. He was a funny co-host of Norm MacDonald show. You know, when Norm had that show, Adam was on that show with him. Like, he gets it.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He understands the business. He'll hit you with a zingle from time to time. It's a funny dude. Yeah, he got a couple in the chamber. He's a funny dude. But he's also a smart. dude like and and he knows potential he sees someone and he can give them genuinely good advice like genuinely like you could take this and develop it this way maybe you need to work on this
Starting point is 00:29:22 maybe you need to you know but you know more importantly i think he has he has the courage of his convictions where it's like like when i when i first got to hollywood you know i went over you know i went everywhere at least once or twice and you know people you know people like come back next week or you know you gotta wait till this time or whatever everyone saw me saw me Adam saw me he was the only person that was like come back next week like I want to you get a spot next week right it's because he gets it yeah yeah and like he started fucking with me immediately and it wasn't any hesitation at all it was like from the time I met him I was just getting spots at the store yeah yeah and so to to do that to have that belief in
Starting point is 00:30:03 your in your eye you know instead of needing other people's because Because of how most of show business works is everybody's just, no one wants to be the first one on your dick, but no one wants to be the last one. So even if they see something they think is dope, they'll be like, does anybody else think is dope? Right. No? Okay, me neither. Right. You know, but then as soon as a couple of people think it's dope, then it was like, I saw it six months ago.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's like, you know, is that kind of shit. So. Yeah, that's where they're pretending they have talent. Yeah. That's their talent. But the problem is you don't have to have the talent talent to be in a position of that, to be in that position. No, you don't. You can just get a job and they need someone to do it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And if you sell yourself and if you worked, you know, in production before you did something and as an agent or whatever the fuck it is, you're in the business and people know you. Suffer under some tyrant. There's a lot of that. Yeah. There's a lot of that. A lot of suffering under tyrants. And then these guys, they wind up, you know, fucking ruining companies because just they don't know what, like how many terrible specials have you seen that just fit the right demographic, fit this like. like silly thing like that was another problem that Adam was having at the store is that like
Starting point is 00:31:12 he couldn't just give spots to the people that he thought was funny it's there was pressure to make a certain amount of gay people on the set a certain amount of women a certain amount of they had like people telling him he didn't have enough of certain demographics but where's the where's the pressure coming from oh I don't know it was coming from you know I don't want to talk out of school okay but it wasn't just comics there was you know people that were buying into it
Starting point is 00:31:43 and that's nonsense my mind immediately went something silly like he just he just wakes up there's a dildo on his pillow with a note it's like no he was you've been warned he was being told
Starting point is 00:31:57 he's been told but and it's just like you know there's a lot of like vicious people in this fucking business and if you're a guy and your job is working at a club and that's all you got and you know all of a sudden that job is threatened because people are complaining about you and they think that you're not doing your best to make the lineup more diverse which is like it's so silly because this is the thing that we always talk about in the green room like look how diverse
Starting point is 00:32:25 that club is there's everybody there like all kinds of different kinds of people and the idea that like it's one thing this is the the most dumb straw man that gets tossed around like it's all right-wing comedy club. The vast majority of the people that work there are left-wing people. Vast majority. That's a fact. It's a fact. Yeah. And you can't like you can't tie it down. You know, it's all white males. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:32:49 There's all kinds of people there. There's Arabs and Muslim people. There's people from India. There's people from Asia. There's black people, white people, Australians. There's people from fucking everywhere at that club. And just there's one thing in common only. Do you love comedy? Are you trying to get better? Are you funny?
Starting point is 00:33:07 There is something to be said about being aware of your blind spots. But I don't think that the way Hollywood always does diversity is wrong because they'll go, instead of going to find, they'll go, we're missing this slice of the pie. And instead of going and finding the funniest people, they'll just pick anyone, you know? And I don't know if that always, this is almost never the best way to do this. It's never the best way. It's like the same thing for neuro. neurosurgeons. If you're like, you know, I'm really looking for a Danish woman neurosurgeon. Like, no, no, no, no, no, you got, you have brain tumor. Like, no, no, no, I really want a Danish woman. Like, no, no, no, no, you got to get the best guy. The best guy's a Chinese guy. We found him. He was at Harvard. This guy. No, no, no. Like, that's crazy. And that's the same thing with everything. It's like, it should be a meritocracy. And I think, ultimately, you're going to have examples of all sorts of different kinds of people that rise to the top in a true meritocracy. I mean, but the
Starting point is 00:34:08 Well, the pendulum always swings both back and forth, but it's almost never a meritocracy, you know? In comedy? Or just, I'm just talking, I'm just talking about America. I think comedy. Comedy is one of the only things where it's a genuine meritocracy. Oh yeah, well when it comes to the crowd you can't cheat, you can't cheat. You can't cheat.
Starting point is 00:34:25 No. It's that it is what it is. Unless you're stealing. That's the only thing. If someone's a joke thief. Or unless you're a fucking hack, you know, you can get away with a lot, but you can't get away with a lot with your peers, right? can't like you your peers won't like you they won't want to be around they won't want to go on the road with you with your whack-ass jokes no unless you're super famous people are just people that hold their nose and go on the road with you there's a few that's true there's a few that we'll do that but ultimately though when it comes to like sustaining a career and and having you know
Starting point is 00:35:00 years and years of people coming out to see you and multiple specials and stuff like that either it either works or it doesn't work it's it that's it's it's real simple like once people find out about you now you've got your foot in the door and it's all just about keeping it on the gas keep your foot on the gas and keep producing keep making stuff keep keep writing keep working on sets and you'll you know if you're working for those people they'll keep showing up for you because you made him laugh i hope that stays true because that's it's the only thing i'm good at you know i'm bad and everything except right except my my comedy you know well you're really good at your comedy though some people never get really good at anything but they but i feel like every year you can you have to be
Starting point is 00:35:45 good at something else no editing sketches scripts they want you to act they want you to you don't you don't you don't look at david hell does one thing does one thing stand-up comedy everybody loves him he's amazing yeah does one thing that's it's it's it's it's it I mean, that dude, it doesn't even go on social media at all, which is the only reason why he's not selling out enormous arenas. When we had him at the club last weekend, everybody was like, dude, he's the best. He might be, he's one of the best of all time, and he's working clubs. I mean, a lot of people, a lot of people put him at the very top. He's up there, dude.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It's like, it's kind of silly to rank comedians, right? And every comic that's alive today owes a debt of gratitude to the people that came before us. We all do, because it's a relatively new art. for him. Yeah. I mean, I go by joke, by joke, by joke. I don't really have a favorite comedian, but there's some bits out there where I'm like, that's fucking. And some of those come from, you know, a few of them come from the same people, but it tells one of those people where you just, sometimes you just watch, you're just in awe. Yeah. You know, but I love that. I love like getting to watch a comic to make you go, God damn, I need to just ball my shit up
Starting point is 00:36:57 and fucking throw it away. Yeah, that's the best feeling. That's, that's where the fire starts burning It gets you going. You need to feel that. That's why comics don't exist in a vacuum. You know, we were talking about this the other day that we're talking about, like, McCann, so McCann is in this thing where he might have to move, and we're like, bro, you've got to stay. Like, you're killing it and you're getting funnier. You're, like, funnier all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And I think one of the reasons why is what you're around. Comics don't exist in a vacuum. You're not going to go to, like, South Dakota and find the best comic that no one's ever seen. The best comic in the world lives in South Dakota by himself. and he works at this little local comedy club and everybody comes to see him from miles around no the best comics are around other killers you get to see a guy like David Tell go up
Starting point is 00:37:42 and you're like God damn you get to see Shane Gillis go up You go god damn You get to see Joey Diaz You get to see all these fucking killers Over and over and over again And when you're around that You see Ron White every week
Starting point is 00:37:53 That's how you get better Like that's where it's on McCann brings the heat He brings the heat dude He's fucking talented And he's smart and he's a great guy and he's fucking just a curious, interesting thinker. And he's got a, he's got a, he's got a, he's got a, he's got a, he's got a zany delivery.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah. Like, whenever I follow me, he always brings me up like he auctioned enslaved. So he'll be like, brand, sipped it. You know, he says my name like Leonardo DiCaprio and Django. Ah. Brin. Watch, we're going to get it, we're going to get that on tape somewhere. Yeah, we'll get that tonight.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I'll bring him in tonight Oh yeah Is he coming in there? I think so I think so I got to text him as soon as we get out of here Oh speaking of the comedy
Starting point is 00:38:40 My don't tell shit came out this week Go go check it out It was out this week It was out last week But it's gone It's taking off Nice beautiful
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah it's like a couple of clips A couple million Beautiful Yeah Go check it out It was on YouTube Don't tell comedy That Wop jokes
Starting point is 00:38:56 One my all time Favorite jokes Oh yeah That's on my YouTube channel Yeah, so yeah, it's a, yeah, we got a lot of stuff online, man. It's like, some people are like, I've just now discovered you. I'm like, really? That's how it works, man.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. There's so much shit out there. That's the thing, man. A million people can watch your shit and nobody saw it. And then that's? Yeah. That's how many people there are. Well, there's people that are huge fans of yours that don't even know you do stand up.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It's crazy. You know what I mean? How's that possible? Well, there's just too many things to pay attention to. Like, how many times have you heard about an actor? Like, my kids will tell me about someone. And I'm like, who is that? and they're like oh my god that person's huge i'm like shut up really and then i go to their
Starting point is 00:39:35 instagram page they have 30 million instagram followers i'm like how am i that old it happens to me all the time i've officially reached unc status yeah i'm unc status for sure i'm my grandpa status grandpa jo grandpa jo doesn't know anything because i'm not looking because i'm not at the point like i'm not looking for new stuff so if the kids don't tell me yeah i'm not looking either but then that makes me feel old you know there'll be it'll be somebody that's like world famous and I'm like, who the fuck is that? I know. Yeah. I completely missed the
Starting point is 00:40:04 the baby shark thing. I just started hearing people talk about it in jokes. Baby Shark? Yeah, apparently it's like the number one YouTube. It's the most streamed YouTube video, right? Jeremy? I mean, it's a couple years ago, guys. But it's still number one, right?
Starting point is 00:40:20 I completely missed it. Baby Shark, do, do, do, to do? Oh, baby shark, do, do, do. Yeah, that's right. I remember it. I literally hadn't heard that song. It had been out from, maybe a year and a half and I hadn't heard anything about it. I just heard a comic making jokes about it.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And usually when something's in the pop culture, everyone will be trying to have their own thing. And I heard another comic say a joke about it. I'm like, what the fuck is that? Sure enough, it's like I completely missed it. How could I mean, I don't have kids. That makes sense. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Okay, this is it? That video? That's a big video? I've never seen that video. The world's most watched YouTube video hasn't made its creator rich. What? How come? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:40:59 A company behind ubiquitous song is hampered by ad restrictions on children's content wants to raise funds for expansion. What does that mean? Raise funds. You had one viral video. You ain't a company. 16.4 billion views. Oh. And they can't make money?
Starting point is 00:41:15 This is roughly equivalent to Taylor Swift's 10 most popular YouTube videos combined. Whoa. Yeah, last year the company generated equivalent of about $67 million in revenue, including earnings from YouTube. But wait a minute. That's a lot. That's a lot. So it seems like they are making money. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Is it saying the quandary underscores how certain restrictions scroll up a little? I think we must have missed something. But why is it, it doesn't make any sense that the company hasn't made any money. It's saying they made money. Am I reading that wrong?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Revenue isn't the same as making money though. What? Revenue is just money coming in. They could have. Their expenses are so high that. They could have spent a lot of ads to get it out there. That's what it could be going into saying. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:59 No, but I'm guessing 16 billion views probably should make you more than that. Is that what they're trying to say? So revenue is your gross? No, that's how much money they made total, including what they got from YouTube. That's not just from YouTube. Oh, so they make money from other stuff. Yeah, they probably hit, like, probably licensed it out and stuff like that. So scroll up, so you see the little graph there?
Starting point is 00:42:19 It says life, I mean, scroll down, I'm sorry. So operating profit, revenue. So they make them a lot more money. Oh. Yeah, but that's South Korean one. I don't know, yeah I just, I mean Falling down the wrong hole
Starting point is 00:42:32 Big out No, Joe's like Bring back the AI Yeah, I don't know what that is Like that baby shark thing Like why would Why would one thing Catch like that?
Starting point is 00:42:45 Because it's something for kids And people love ignoring their kids You just play that put that shit on And kids are obsessed It can just be that Because there's so many things That kids can watch It can't be just that
Starting point is 00:42:55 It's got to be some Remember that banana song banana phone ring ring ring ring ring ring banana phone no I never heard that before it was like in the 2000s it became like really popular I think it was popular on Opie and Anthony they kept playing it it was like really catchy totally innocent and then it was like everywhere for like three or four weeks and then it went away
Starting point is 00:43:16 and I always wonder like what the fuck is it where something just catches fire I don't know remember when tickle me Elmo because what was the last time we had a viral holiday toy like where was the toy everyone had to have tickle it's not holidays but those lobooboos went pretty viral yeah people love the lobooboos and i don't get it why though are they are they collectors is this like because they know AI is about to take over the world and then they know the aliens are landing and jesus christ is coming back and they just they're freaking out they're just buying stuffed animals they don't know what the fuck they're doing they just following the lead
Starting point is 00:43:50 so a lububu is just a stuffed animal i don't know i hear about them my my brain shuts off there's a little bit of gambling involved It's a mystery. You don't know what's inside the box that you bought and then people can sell those boxes based off of what could be inside. Is it a stuffed animal? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:06 A stuffed animal? Then you've got to gut your stuffed animal to find out what's inside of it? No, no, no. It's in a box. It's in a package. And then you don't know what's inside that package. Oh, so you just buy a Lubu
Starting point is 00:44:14 without knowing which one you're going to get. Right, right, right, right. And you might get a limited edition one inside. It's like a real-life loot box. That's a limited edition of beauty without knowing what you got before and you might get the Princess Die one. That's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:44:26 You can get a limited edition, in the boo-boo. And other than that, how much is the, how much is to buy a mystery Labubu box? I couldn't tell you. I could be 20 bucks,
Starting point is 00:44:34 it could be 50. Let's take a guess. Let's take a guess. How much do you think it costs to get a Laboooooo? Retail. Retail. I'm gonna say 40 bucks.
Starting point is 00:44:42 40 bucks. Yeah, I think I'm with you. I was gonna say 36. And after that, how much you think it is a resale? Oh, 150 bucks. To get them. I bet it's like buying one of them, like a hot new car.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So retail is 28, 2799. Okay. Okay. 30 bucks. And then what does it cost online if you want to buy one right now? I need a Lububu. Like a mystery. A mystery liboooooo, what do I get?
Starting point is 00:45:08 Are you Googling it? Yeah, yeah, it's going to... Oh, no. I'll turn off my ringer. Up to 80 to 120. It's not that bad. Oh, well, a few human-sized auction pieces. Oh, that's big.
Starting point is 00:45:18 $100,000. Wait a minute. They have human-sized lububus? Yeah, I didn't know that. Jesus Christ. What? That is so ridiculous. I mean, what is someone doing with a human-sized laboooo?
Starting point is 00:45:27 fucking their labubu because you know someone is let me see what the lububus look like is this something like a furry would fuck let me try to Google oh do you hear the latest that that dude who shot Trump might have been a furry yeah I saw they found some more stuff what yeah I think he was a furry
Starting point is 00:45:45 that's like an art piece it's not really quite oh you know well that's not really human sized either human size the booboo doll sold for 150,000 let me see what they mean might have been a furry I feel like you would know or not know that um they're finding stuff like let's let's find out this is yeah there it is there's the big luboooo whatever this lady invented them she invented the little boo-boo
Starting point is 00:46:09 how again how how does that work how does that catch on how's that catch on like build a bear has been in the fucking mall forever i mean i think i know what it is it's probably some fucking smoking hot uh k-pop star probably they saw her with one on you know that there's certain women what they follow and anytime she does any fashion thing, it just spreads like wildfire. Yeah, there's a thing that does happen when an ever, a popular person starts like wearing a thing.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah, they literally tricked all women in the wearing, and then wasn't a diamond. Well, you remember when... Just looking at actress to do it. Judas Priest had everybody dressing up like a gay motorcycle gang member? What? Yeah. That started with Judas Priest? Yeah. Rob Halford from Judas Priest is gay.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Like openly gay. And now, at least, you know, I don't know if he was back then, but he dressed like a gay biker, like, and that became, like, metal. Oh, work. Because Judas Priest was so good. They wanted to dress like this gay guy who'd dress like a gay guy who'd go to, like, a gay biker club. Yeah. I suppose like hot women around the world.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Because dudes will do, dudes will do anything that they think, yeah, we'll get them late. And women will do anything that a pretty woman does. That's true. Anything to make yourself look prettier, too. Yeah, and so it's like, because all of the dudes now talking to all that gay shit, they was dressing like that in the 70s or the 80s, like earrings and makeup and purses and all of that. Mm-hmm, bell bottoms, big collars. Yeah, because they thought it was going to get them laid.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Flouncy shirts. You could just like prints. You could dress like Lord Richard and people. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Anything that works. Platform shoes.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Anything that works. Anything. Okay. Thomas Crooks used they-them pronouns, had obsession with political, violence and muscle mommies. Uh-oh, that's what I like. Yeah, what's wrong? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You're not like a whooped-nickle-mover couch. I do. The lone sniper who grazed Trump in the ear killed a beloved firefighter, critically wounded two other Trump supporters, apparently had a muscle mommy fetish and repeatedly searched for videos about female bodybuilders and muscular women. But what was the furry stuff, though? reading some furry stuff. Crooks had two
Starting point is 00:48:30 possible accounts on deviant art, a site that hosts fan art has become notorious for its community of furries. People have identified as anthropomorphized animal characters and or are sexually attracted to them. They were telling you about the time
Starting point is 00:48:47 that I accidentally stumbled on a furry convention? No. We were flying into Pittsburgh for a UFC. One of Deviant Art accounts, linked to Crooks, shared just one reposting of a towering muscular female bodybuilder and a slight man in his underwear
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah, I'm all over... Yeah, that's like R. Crum type stuff. hilarious. Yeah, I don't kinkshame. I don't kink shame either. No. Have fun.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Me and Duncan wore furry outfits once. For the pod? Yeah, and we had to take the hats off after like five minutes. Like, respect to ferries. You can walk around all day with this fucking thing on. It was heavy.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It was hard. to breathe it was hot we took it oh yeah that's what he likes yeah baby but who doesn't like that yeah i don't know some little dudes some little dudes don't want to be dominated don't want some man some woman to use them like a dildo um when i was uh so i was flying into pittsburg we were flying in for a ufc and uh we got a rental and we're driving to the hotel and as we're driving the hotel i'm like why all these mascots on the street the fuck's going on it was real weird like we didn't understand what was going on this is a while ago like at least 10 years ago and we're driving and i'm like what the fuck is this like what's going
Starting point is 00:50:06 on we get to the hotel and i'm like and i go to the guy behind the counter i go man what the fuck is going on he goes it's a furry convention like i didn't even i kind of vaguely knew what a furry was but i never really dove into it you know so i go what are you talking about he goes it's a convention of all these people that get off on dressing like animals. I go get off. He goes, dude, they're asking us to serve them food in bowls on the ground. Okay? When they get room service, they want their room service in a bowl.
Starting point is 00:50:38 They want it put on the ground so they can get on their knees and eat it out of a bowl. And they were asking for a litter box. I know a lot of people don't believe this. Like, because I told the story about a friend of mine who lives in Utah, his wife was a school teacher there. and one of the parents had a child that was a furry and they wanted to put a litter box in the bathroom. Now, this was entirely relayed to me by my friend who it was relayed to him by his wife who worked in the school.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I don't know if it's true, but everybody got so angry and they started saying what I was saying was transphobic. And I got so confused because I was like, this was a couple of years ago. I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, what does that do with trans people? We're talking about someone who wants to shit. in a box like where's where's the trans part of this so somehow or another furries and that kink are getting like lumped into this LGBTQTA i plus whatever and they're trying to like lump
Starting point is 00:51:38 furries in there in this this debunking of my conspiracy theory well furries are their own they're their own that's what i didn't understand but some of them is not sexual but these guys it was when I was talking to the guy that worked behind the counter, I was like, what is going on? He goes, dude, he goes, apparently what these guys like to do is they have like a hatch on the back of their furry outfit. And they like to bang each other without even knowing who they're banging. All they do, they pretend they're banging a giant squirrel and they're into it.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And it's apparently like part of the fun is that you don't have to think about your body. Maybe you're ashamed of your body. Maybe you're just like, I'd rather someone just fuck. me and think I'm a raccoon. And so that's what they do. See, I pray to God I don't find out that that's my kink because it's just too much work. It's a lot of work. The head is heavy, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Heavy is the head that carries the throne. Yeah, that's it. Any kink that requires maintenance. It's a lot of washing. You've got to wash that furry outfit. And if someone jizzes on it, it doesn't tell you. Yeah, but it might be a subsection of the community where they like it not wash. They want the dirty furries.
Starting point is 00:52:49 They're over there. Like an animal. in the woods. They don't wash themselves. Yeah. Come on. Let's go. We're furries. Are we furries or are we men? I once had a, I used to work at this pub in San Diego. And one time we had, it was like a, it was like, I don't know if they're a subsect of the furry world, but it's like they're like my little pony people. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And yeah. What do they call them? There's a name for that. Bronies. Broonies. Yeah, it was like a whole bunch of here or something. And they were all very nice and respectful when you could see, you know. You know, there were a handful of women involved, and you could see everybody trying to angle for the, but they took, they just, they filled up our pub. And these are all the My Little Pony people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It was a documentary that was like 10 years, 12 years. And they hard core. Like, they, they don't tolerate any teasing whatsoever. Like, if you try to come at them about it, it's going to be a problem. You know, like, you got to be able to take some teasing. Yes. If you want me to take you seriously? I'm telling you, bro, they're going to throw hoofs immediately.
Starting point is 00:53:55 They're throwing huffs. People will find a thing that they're really into, no matter what it is. They will find a fucking thing that they're really into. But that's the reason, that's why I don't kinkshame, because I'm like, hey, man, if you just be lucky that all the things that make you come are things you consider normal. You know what I mean? Right. Because I feel bad. Like, imagine if you found out.
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Starting point is 00:55:51 responsible gaming resources c dkng.co slash audio limited time offer i think it's a psychological thing but they don't like who they really are i mean that's if i had a guess what the furry thing is i don't think there's any well i mean i don't know maybe there's some well-balanced furries out there that just have a weird thing but i think most of them just don't like who they are and so they just want to hide in this thing that's all smiley and hi kids you know you look like a fucking some sort of a a giant animal See, I have a theory I think
Starting point is 00:56:21 whatever, I think the first time you encounter something sexual, whatever's happening gets like burned into your shit. That's a, that's called imprinting. Yeah. Like I got a homie that that's like into like
Starting point is 00:56:37 you know, the BDSM world and stuff like that and he has no idea. And I was like, well, how did you know that? He was like, I don't have no idea. And then, you know, years later without completely unrelated, he's telling me one time about him looking for Christmas presents and going in the back of his parents' closet and finding the whole chest
Starting point is 00:56:53 of, you know, whips and chains and shit like that when he was like six or seven years old. He didn't make the connection. We was like, oh yeah, well that's why you're Yeah, duh. Parents are into whips and chains and shit. And I don't know if that had to happen because I think your kinks are genetic. Really?
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah. Why do you think that? I think I've read that, right? Well, I think some information has probably passed down from parents to kids, and I would imagine and kinks could be in there because like artistic talent is passed down obviously athletic talent is often past town
Starting point is 00:57:25 it would make sense I bet a lot of things I bet they don't know exactly what you're giving to your kids well let's let's find out because if it's true I mean that's gonna make you look at your mama real different right
Starting point is 00:57:35 you don't want to know that that's horrible yeah but I like I pity the poor people that have accidentally walked in and their parents fucking what you never did that No.
Starting point is 00:57:48 No. The horror. No, actually, that's not true. I never walked in, but I definitely knew that that's what was happening. I can block that out. Right. You can't block out the visual. Because you've definitely touched the doorknob and been like,
Starting point is 00:58:02 your dad with his feet up in your hair, your mom eating his ass. Like, no way. No, I don't have no visual. Your dad's stroking it while your mom's eating his ass. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, see, there you go. I can't live anymore like that. like that i can't i can't go through this world i'm gonna have to get electroshock therapy
Starting point is 00:58:21 yeah but imagine if you if you if you walk in and you know what i mean what would have to happen for you to be a furry for what would you have to see i don't think it's that no i think it's probably there's probably some social disorder involved in some of those folks too there's like furry lights which uh my kids go to school with there's some kids that wear like they wear like ears and like maybe a tail and every now and then you're see one of those? Yeah, yeah. This brony thing might have started
Starting point is 00:58:50 as a 4chan troll that spread too far and not out of control. Like a few other things I've done? They're the best. I can't tell. Do you see what they did with the free flow, a free bleeding project? What is that? Hold on, wait. They tricked women into thinking
Starting point is 00:59:04 that it's like a sign of feminism to just bleed and not have a tampon or a maxi pad. Oh, like old school. Just let it go. Free bleeding. And so they did it as a joke. And then some women,
Starting point is 00:59:16 and adopted it because I thought it was like, you know, radical feminist cuckoos, crazy ladies. So now free bleeding is like a trend? No, it didn't last. It's disgusting. It's probably totally unsanitary. You smell like fish. It's hell. It's hell.
Starting point is 00:59:30 You have a pussy blood running down your fucking pants and you're showing up at the office. You expect to keep your job here at United Health? I mean, I don't think anybody was showing up at no offices. Those are definitely just with no jobs. At Starbucks? You're showing up at Starbucks? Oh, that's not real. No way.
Starting point is 00:59:46 That lady would die She would literally be dead That's like if you shot her with a fucking arrow The thing is there's no Is this lady free bleeding These were the 4chan posts The people trying to share it That it was real
Starting point is 00:59:58 I'm not putting this on this man But that could be a lady that's just Doing a marathon and forgot a tampon It's like fucking I'm gonna push through Because I saw one lady who diarrheaed herself It went all down her leg and everything And she completed that fucking race Well the thing is it's hard to tell
Starting point is 01:00:11 What's real and what's AI That's real That's real That's a little pussy blood right there I can tell I'm an expert But the thing is But free bleeding is one thing But it's like
Starting point is 01:00:20 But just getting your pussy blood Every ounce to other people's stuff They don't care Like if you're doing that shit at home Or in the grass They're marking their territory Well what did people do Before they invented tampons
Starting point is 01:00:34 Like I mean Are you supposed to just wash it out Like what are you supposed to do What does nature want you to do Like nature doesn't want you That's why toxic shock syndrome is a thing when women have tampons and they leave them up there
Starting point is 01:00:46 and then they can get really sick and women have died from toxic shock syndrome from tampons. I don't think people even cared about. I don't know if this might be full satire, but this is someone talking about how it's not made up and it's a real thing. Fortune people tried to claim they started this. Misogynic users of the online forum,
Starting point is 01:01:06 4chan, would claim that they jokingly started the movement in 2014 and see how far they could make angry feminists go. Fake memes and Twitter accounts apparently belonged to feminist activist began posting content about free bleeding. This backfired spectacularly for the four-chan trolls when they unwittingly created a discourse around the normalization of periods. What? The free-bleeding movement, whether fake or not, quickly became very real and got women talking about their monthly cycle. Since then, notable moments in the free-bleeding movement have included Karan Gandhi running the Boston Marathon without, without.
Starting point is 01:01:43 something while bleed they missed something there it says without while bleeding through her sports shorts uh poet rupee car also became notable in the movement when an image of her menstrual blood on her pants and bed sheets was repeatedly removed from instagram that same year imagine like you're a hero because your pussy blood is on the internet this is so kooky this sounds like this is satire that's it could be i mean who wrote it what's it in it's a blog of I think you have a hard time convincing most. Yeah, most, but these are crazy people. Like, most people don't want to fuck wearing a squirrel outfit,
Starting point is 01:02:23 but crazy people do. Some people do. I'm not seeing furries are crazy. What is the blog, and do they have other things that seem like satire? Because that seems like satire. I'm not checking real quick. It's hard to tell at the edges. When you get to the edges of radical feminism,
Starting point is 01:02:37 radical leftism and radical right wing, you know, patriot front type shit, it's hard to tell what satire. when you get to the edges, when you get to the most extreme examples of any movement. Well, also, everything's AI now, and people just laugh. People just say bullshit. Also, all those, whether it's the right-wing movements, like Proud Boys, or whether it's Antifa, they get infiltrated.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Those guys get infiltrated by government officials, 100 fucking percent. I guarantee you there's some FBI agents in Antifa, and I guarantee you there's some FBI agents that are in the Proud Boys. I think the head of the proud boys was already outed as an FBI informant Isn't that true? I think that, find that out. Google that.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Really? Yes. That's not shocking at all. I think Every single movement gets in the trade. I think he still went to jail too. I think he still went to jail for January 6th. Yeah, I mean, they still locked up a...
Starting point is 01:03:35 Let's see. Let's say, what does it say? Head the Power Boys revealed to have been an FBI informant. Enrico Tario. Tario served as a national chairman of the proud boys from 2018 to 2021 and was a central figure in the group's activities, including its role in January 6, 2021 Capitol Riot. However, it was later disclosed that Tariot worked as an informant for federal and local law enforcement agencies between 2012 and 2014 prior to his leadership in the Proud Boys. Oh, beforehand. That's even crazier.
Starting point is 01:04:06 That's even crazier. Like, well, they tell them us the truth? like that he's not doing it anymore it's like fucking who knows man it's layers upon layers it's those Russian nesting dolls and you open it and there's another one in there and you open there's another one in there corruptions at all the time bro
Starting point is 01:04:22 the Epstein files I heard there's no files I heard it's a hoax and then all of a sudden he's going to release the files well I thought there was no files man he wants an investigation now listen like what is going on they voted 427 to 1 who was the who was the
Starting point is 01:04:39 Well, whoa, who's the one? He reached, I didn't see why he said, but he didn't say what. National security. No fucking way you're going to be the one. If you found out, if you found out all of Congress voted for something and you're the only one that didn't, can you change your vote? You can't be the one, guy. It should be, it should be that it has to be like, no one can know what the vote is before
Starting point is 01:05:00 you do it. Bro, I would love to hear his reason. How are you the one? Well, you know, I was feeling like, let's move past it and let's get on with our business. And you can't move past it. These billionaires are good people. Okay. You can't move past.
Starting point is 01:05:13 They're good, solid people. Who? Clay Higgins. Where's he out of? Arkansas. Yeah, there goes. Yeah. One of the bottom ten in education or something like that.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Somebody got to him. That's crazy, though. Four and twenty to one. I have been a principled note on this bill from the beginning. What was wrong with the bill three months goes to her? It abandons a 250 years. of criminal justice procedure in America, as written, this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people witnesses, people who provided alibis, family members, etc. If enacted in its
Starting point is 01:05:47 current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will absolutely result in innocent people being hurt, not by my vote. The Oversight Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that has already released well over 60,000 pages of documents from the Epstein case. That effort will continue in a manner that provides, all due protections for innocent Americans. If the Senate amends the bill to properly address privacy of victims and or other Americans who are named
Starting point is 01:06:16 but not criminally implicated, then I will vote for that bill when it comes back to the house. He's in that motherfucker. Well, that's a point, though, right? Like, there was people that had, like, people that had dinner over Epstein's house. Like, Epstein had dinners
Starting point is 01:06:30 and had celebrities go over his house. Like, Chelsea Handler was one of the people that went over his house. I don't think Chelsea Handler is out there molesting kids. No, no, I get that. I mean. No, I get that, but I think we're past that. We're beyond that point now because Right, you just have to be able to say, hey, I went to his house for dinner. Yeah, I'm not saying,
Starting point is 01:06:47 because people try to do that to you with like pictures. They're like, if you was in a picture with somebody, they think, you know, but it's like, it's a difference between being in a picture with somebody and being in 500 pictures with them. Right. You know what I mean? And flying to an island. Yeah, I think the, because this is a big problem, I mean, related back to what we were talking about earlier with Hollywood, too, is that I think a lot of, I think a lot of these motherfuckers don't respect the public. They don't respect our intelligence. You know, like, I think the average American
Starting point is 01:07:10 is smart enough to know the difference between somebody that was just in there or somebody that testified than somebody that was banging children. See, the thing is, the average American probably can tell the difference, but there are sub-average individuals that all they want to know is you're on the list
Starting point is 01:07:30 and they hear you're on the list and they might try to kill you. And that is a fact. But here's the thing. The problem is, You're not advocating for not releasing the files. I'm just saying there's enough dumb, nutty people that will think that you're guilty. There's been so much obfuscation with this.
Starting point is 01:07:46 It would be different if there was no pushback. But there's, I think what's at stake is people's belief in the integrity of the process. That's already cooked. Oh, well, yeah. But whatever, the last little shreds of it that are left is like, no more you getting the sift through and the sock. Because he's, you know, it's easy to say that. But the truth is, they want to be able to decide whose names get seen and whose names don't. And people aren't with that.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Like, you know. And they shouldn't be with that. Or, or we agree with this guy and then we let them Kennedy joints out. We've been waiting for them. Think about it. They said the same thing about the Kennedy shit. Well, we don't want to hurt. And every time they're supposed to release it, they kick it down the road.
Starting point is 01:08:26 They release some new Kennedy documents, but I never heard anything come out of it. Yeah, it was supposed to be released two or three presidents. There's no way those people are alive. What we know is this We know that I forget who said it But justice delayed is justice denied The longer we wait The more we let these fucking snakes
Starting point is 01:08:46 Kick the can down the road The more they get to obfuscate And muddy the waters You know what Trump said about the JFK files? What? He said, I saw them And if you saw what I saw You wouldn't release him either
Starting point is 01:08:58 That's what I'm screaming That's crazy What does that mean? What does that mean? I don't even know. I can't even imagine what that means. What does that mean? What could that mean? What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:09:11 I don't know. Does that mean a foreign government? Does that mean our government? Does that mean the mafia? Does that mean a coordinated effort with all the above? What does that mean? I have no idea what it could possibly mean. That's crazy for something that happened in 1963.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah. And almost everyone involved, almost everyone that could be embarrassed somehow is dead. 62 years ago, man. So it would have to be something that, like, destroys an institution or something. Something. Like this Epstein shit.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Right. But just the amount, a sheer amount of people with insane amounts of money that are attached to this. Because my conservative friends be like, they think I give a fuck about a Democrat.
Starting point is 01:09:53 They'd be like, oh, you, with a Bill Clinton's in there. I don't give a fuck who in there. I don't care who in there. You don't care. Put that shit in the street. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:02 They think you do? Yeah. I don't have a party identity. I don't have a favorite politician. I don't have, there's no, there's nobody, I don't give these motherfuckers money. No, there's no politician that I love enough to, to it. Because this is what's killing me.
Starting point is 01:10:16 There's people out there that are literally like, well, how old is 16, really? You know, like, they're trying to justify, like, because they want to come out of this by still showing support, but they don't want to be connected to the crime. So they're trying to, they're still trying to justify their support of all of this. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:35 It's like, there's no politician I love more than I love my country or more than I have my principles of like, yeah, I think if you can't draw the line at kid fucking, then you probably should stop talking in public. Like, you shouldn't have public discourse, you know? Yeah. I mean, I think this is a pattern that has existed forever in politics. They want you to be compromised when you get into any sort of a position so they can control you. And I think these things like Epstein and there's probably a bunch of other similar. operations that are being run. They provide you with like a really good time or maybe you're a high profile, extremely wealthy individual and it's hard for you to get hose. And some guy tells
Starting point is 01:11:19 you, hey, we've got everything covered. You know, you come to my island. Nothing, you know, what happens on the island, stay on the island. Bro, they just kicked, didn't they kick somebody out of the royal family? Oh yeah. Who? Prince Andrew. Yeah. Yeah. They kicked him out of the family. And there hasn't even been like a former trial yet. It's not like he's been convicted. But what does that, what happens when you're not, they just walk you out to castle and you just, you just on a street? I think he's in a house, like, way out in the country. Like, you stay here.
Starting point is 01:11:48 I just, in my head, I just picture him, like, crying over some KFC because he's never eating peasant food. I don't think he's eating peasant food. So he's not a regular person. I think he's in a manner, like a beautiful home in the country. Okay, so being kicked out of the royal family doesn't mean that you just, that you lose everything. Who know? I mean, what does he have? And where did he get it? Is it just money from the government? Because they do get paid by the government. They do, but I also think they're all, there's still dukes of something and lords of something. Here it says what he lost. So after being stripped of his royal titles and forced to leave his longtime residence at Royal Lodge, Royal Lodge, Prince Andrew now formerly known as Andrew, Andrew Montbatten, Windsor.
Starting point is 01:12:32 We'll relocate to a combination in the Sandringham, Sandrigum, how do you say that? Sandrigam estate in Norfolk. He is now excluded from royal duties and public life, and his status has been dramatically reduced. His status has been reduced. Loss of titles and status, eviction from Royal Lodge, relocation to Sandringham Estate. So he's relocated to an estate in the countryside. public exclusion. He remains excluded from all royal engagements
Starting point is 01:13:06 and official events except for private family gatherings. But that sounds sweet. I feel like... Yeah, I mean, he's getting away with not having to be you know, like not being in the public eye. That's it. Well, they were basically like, you know all the parts about being a role that suck?
Starting point is 01:13:22 Yeah, you don't have to do those anymore. Look at this. Financial support. The king will provide for Andrew's basic needs, but his former royal funding and security benefits have been ended. Andrew has sought private business opportunity to support himself, but no public roles are expected. Wow. Who's going to go into business with you, my guy? He's going to go, he wants to go into business. He's going to open up a Starbucks? Getting money from the king all this
Starting point is 01:13:47 time. This whole thing is nuts, because they get money, and I don't think they have to do anything. Like, I don't think they have, like, real function in government, do they? Where's the Sandring of a state? Oh, that's where you got, poor guy. That's so sad. It's so sad. They made him stay in that castle. Look how beautiful that place is. That is so nuts that this guy got kicked out of there. Bro.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You got kicked out of wherever the fuck he was, the royal lord. Unless they tell me his punishment is like they give you that estate, but they take all the servants. Bro, look at the gardener's house. That's the gardener's house. That's where the gardener lives. That fucking place is beautiful. That is hilarious, dude. If they give him that place, but they don't give him no servants.
Starting point is 01:14:32 and he just got to clean everything. He got to walk a mile to the kitchen. Yeah, he's got to do his own dishes. No, but this is, this guy's living the life. So he just gets banished to a mansion. He don't got to do no public duties. And they probably just bring hose out to the mansion. You think he gets a puppy?
Starting point is 01:14:49 It's not only stop banging hose. No. Right? I mean, I don't know what he's in trouble for. Right. That's the thing. They haven't told us. But to get kicked out of the royal family is, wow.
Starting point is 01:14:58 They didn't even kick Megan Markle out of the family, and they racist. legal and public impact. What is this? These changes result from longstanding controversies over Andrew's association with Jeffrey Epstein and subsequent legal settlements always get settlements, particularly a civil case bought by Virginia Guffrey, which concluded without any admission of liability by Andrew but resulted in a multi-million pound settlement. Do you know that there's the amount of money that's been paid out to victims of Jeffrey Epstein is like $300 million so far? far? From where? I don't know. Is that true? There's also a bunch of money that just moved after he died that no one really understands you. This is all so sketchy.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Bro, I'm telling you, a lot of people, if they really release this shit in earnest, a lot, it's going to change everything. I hope. I hope it's that powerful. Do you think it will be? Well, all I know is the most powerful person on earth has been doing a lot to keep that shit from coming out. And I don't, and I'm not like everybody else.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I don't think Trump is in there in a criminal way. But I think a lot of, he has a lot of powerful friends that have been putting pressure on him to keep that shit under wraps. I think that definitely has to be the case. I think it's going to be royal people. It's going to be prime ministers. It's going to be Supreme Court justices. It's going to be all type of. Former presidents.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Yeah, some CEOs. Uh-huh. It's going to be all type of shit in there. Scientists. Get it out. Yeah. Get it out. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:26 The world already, there's nothing to lose for America as a whole. What a crazy operation they were running. What a crazy thing. To have a bunch of people fly them out to an island that somehow or another you own. Like, where did you get the money to buy a fucking island, bro? It's not as expensive as you think. A whole island? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:44 We looked at that island. We were trying to buy it. Actually, I shouldn't say we're trying to buy it. We were thinking about it very briefly. But it was too expensive. It was like 55. It's not discounted now? That's a discount.
Starting point is 01:16:56 That's the discounting price? Oh, okay. I would imagine it's a. well worth well more than that. Like if you buy a beautiful house in like Miami, a beautiful house in Miami might be $200 million if it's on the ocean.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Those like crazy manners in like West Palm Beach. But it's like, but the island's basically haunted and you got to save the whole motherfucking thing. It's too late. You got to level it. You got to remove the dirt and go get dirt from like some pristine island. Yeah, you got to remove everything. It would be, that's
Starting point is 01:17:26 the same reason why we never bought the One World Theater. The same thing. Oh, that weird cult? Yeah, the cult thing. I was like, oh, man, there's not enough sage in the world. Yeah. You had to come by with some holy water, anointing oil. And that's a beautiful property.
Starting point is 01:17:40 But I was like, what do they do to those poor people there? You know, and that island is like... I wouldn't be shocked if that dude was on that. What was the name? The cult leader of that cult. Well, he had different names. His first... I forget what his real name was.
Starting point is 01:17:57 He had the same name as a boxer. I forget his fucking name. What is the cult member, the cult leader's name in Holy Hell? But he changed his name twice. So he made, he had a fake name when he was teaching yoga in West Hollywood when he started the cults. And then when the cult awareness network started going after him
Starting point is 01:18:16 because after Waco, they started going after all the cults. They're like, these motherfuckers are arming up. Like, this is dangerous. Let's find out of the call. And also there's like a lot of people lost their family members. Jaime Gomez. That's right. Um, so he was, uh, Michel, Michel, Michelle, and then he became Andreas once he came to, um, Texas.
Starting point is 01:18:37 To Texas. So what happened was he, they were after him. And so this dude picks up shop and just moves to Austin. And just to throw people off, has his followers build a theater so he could dance in front of them. They built that. His followers built that theater. And see, I have an beautiful place for people to get sucked in and stuff like that. But I feel like we know enough now where it's like if you're unsure, if you're in a call, like as soon as the guy wants to fuck your wife, you should be.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Or your dad. Right. Or just anyone. This guy was fucking everybody. As soon as the leader need to fuck your family. Yeah, that's a problem. That's the red flag right there. If there was no alarm bells before that point, like when they asked you to give up all your stuff, maybe you still had hope.
Starting point is 01:19:23 You know, when they started giving you duties as a servant, maybe you still have help. But when they need to fuck your family members I feel like that should be That should set off all the alarms for you For me They wait until you're deep in the cult Before they bust that one out Like David Koresh
Starting point is 01:19:39 Didn't he wait like a long time I think they were already on the compound And he was like God just told him I have to fuck your wife Like for real it was one of that It was that dumb It was like that dumb Like God spoke to him
Starting point is 01:19:52 And told him That no one is allowed to have sex But him When he could have sex and everybody's wife. Group pressure is very powerful. Find out that's true. Like, none of us are really above it.
Starting point is 01:20:02 You know, you're going to be careful what groups you around it because that pressure to conform, you know, because I guess, he's not just like, I got to fuck your wife, but he's surrounded by people going, do it, do it.
Starting point is 01:20:14 They're all cheered on with towels and shit. Or they have their little saying, they say, you know. Right. That pressure to. Praise Jesus. Yep. That pressure to please everyone.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Mm-hmm. Yeah, because there's a, There's a certain type of person that gets roked into those things. Well, I always wonder about that. Like, is there a grand pattern to the universe? Is there a mathematical formulation that we exist in where you have to have a certain amount of gullible people and then a certain amount of devious people that try to trick people and con artists?
Starting point is 01:20:46 And then a certain amount of people like you that are like, what the fuck is going on? Like that all of this sort of like dances together and balances itself out. And just like nature has. predators and it has wounded antelope that get too close to the waterhole. All these things like kind of have to exist at the same time in order for progress to be made. It seems like it's just a certain amount of people that are just born gullible and not just gullible but kind of like wanting to be tricked. He reportedly annulled marriages of couples and who joined the sect and took multiple women as his spiritual wives, some of whom were very young
Starting point is 01:21:24 girls. Former cult members have alleged that Koresh slept with wives of other members and maintained a harem, sometimes with women who were already married, and fathered numerous children with various women. Koresh also instructed male followers to practice celibacy and surrender their wives
Starting point is 01:21:40 to him. This behavior was part of his doctrine and control over the groups women and children often accompanied by allegations of sexual abuse and manipulation. Yeah. See, the thing is, those guys, they're not influential guys, their
Starting point is 01:21:55 superpower is their ability to know who, like, they can sense who's broken in just the right way and come in and be daddy. Yeah. You know, because, yeah, because, can you imagine a motherfucker telling you to be celibate
Starting point is 01:22:10 while he banging your wife? Crazy. Crazy. And you're living in a compound with him, and he's heavily armed. And you gave him all your worldly possession. And he sings, and he's terrible. We have to listen to him sing. You ever listen to him sing? Or he dancing on a stage that you built? Let's play some David Koresh music
Starting point is 01:22:26 He has Like he would sing songs They were terrible He has music Yeah he was terrible Yeah he was a musician He was a frustrated musician Who became an evangelical
Starting point is 01:22:37 I don't know Give me one Anyone They're all I'm sure they all suck Let's listen to David Koresh Recorded in Waco, Texas 1989 If I was in that cult
Starting point is 01:22:53 I'd be like I think I want to let him fuck my wife now. But how about that name? The name, is that like the name of a woman he was trying to fuck? Shishonium. I mean, that's a weird name. What's it say? Very unusual name.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I've never heard that name in my whole life. It probably was some girl he was trying to say. Probably has to be. That's by biblical. Oh. Psalms. Hebrew lilies mentioned in Psalms 45 and 49. It is meaning, it's meaning in these Psalms.
Starting point is 01:23:24 is uncertain some believe it's kind of lily click on that what it says a kind of lily what is that saying lily shaped straight trumpet what a six string trumpet a word commencing a song or the melody of which these psalms were to be sung like they don't even know so yeah it was probably some girl's name yeah probably a chick yeah i saw lill and i was like was that lilith do you know lilith is you ever ever heard of lilith you mean like the demon well lilith was like uh apparently before eve there's like this is like now again i don't know who to believe or who not to believe and what i don't even know what scriptures show lilith and what don't but everything i know about lithe is from diablo lore oh that's funny no lilith is like a character in ancient religious texts right but
Starting point is 01:24:17 She's a daughter of... Who is... Well, we're going to find out because I'll butcher it. I'm very hesitant to say what I think it is because I don't really remember. She's a daughter of Bielselbov, right?
Starting point is 01:24:28 Did Wes Huff tell us about this? No. You know who told us about this? Kurt Metzger. Kurt Metzger was rant and raven about Lilith. Do you don't know? You don't know about Lilith?
Starting point is 01:24:37 There's a few different ones, but this is the one that he was talking about. Lilith is not a character in the Bible. Her name is only mentioned in one verse in the book of Isaiah. This one here. Okay. Origin of the Legend.
Starting point is 01:24:47 The story of Lilith as Adam's first wife comes from later Jewish folklore, such as the alphabet of Ben Sira, which was not included in the canonical Bible. The legend's core stories, according to its folklore, Lilith was created from the earth at the same time as Adam, making her his equal. When she refused to be subservient to him, she left the Garden of Eden. That sounds like a true story. Some interpretations claim that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 describe two different creation stories and two different women. This is considered incorrect and ludicrous by many biblical scholars and theologians. Evolution of the figure over time, Lilith story evolved from a simple night demon from Mesopotamian cultures to more complex figure in Jewish tradition. In modern times, some have reclaimed her as a feminist symbol of independence and equality.
Starting point is 01:25:37 That's funny. Lillet Fair. That's where that Lillith is. That's from Diablo, the video game. I would play as that character. Can you play as her and fuck people up? No, no, no. No, she's the bad guy, but she fucks you up.
Starting point is 01:25:49 That would be a dope character for Quake. If you could be Lilith and run around a map fucking people up. I think you can beat her in Fortnite or something. Nice. I think they buy every... But that's what she looked like? In the game? In the game?
Starting point is 01:26:00 Oh, yeah. And she was hard to beat. Yeah? Yeah, I've only beat her once. But I haven't played it a long time. But, yeah, everything I know about her is from that game, and it sounds like it's all wrong. But isn't it funny that Shishaname or whatever the fuck it is? They don't even know what that was?
Starting point is 01:26:14 Like, it might have been a trumpet. It might have been a flet. It might have been a person Could have been the song Could have been the way you sing I bet you're like a Hebrew scholar Could probably tell you Maybe
Starting point is 01:26:24 It seems like it's up for debate That's the problem with a lot Really old shit It's like they're just guessing They're really old shit They're just guessing What are they trying to say In the book of Ezekiel
Starting point is 01:26:36 What are they trying to say Is it crazy? Oh my God Who I haven't read a Bible In like 20 years The Ezekiel stuff's bananas man I asked the perplexity A little more about Shoshanaheem
Starting point is 01:26:46 David Koresh. Was a group or entity related to the Branch David Koresh, led by David Koresh? A group or entity related to it? The name seems to refer to Koresh as followers who identified themselves as students of the seven seals. Oh, so they were his people. So he called his people that group.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Alliteration against you every time. Reflection, reflecting their focus on apocalyptic teachings derived from the Bible's book of Revelation, Koresh positioned himself as a messianic figure, calling himself the lamb who would open the seven seals, an event that would lead to salvation and the apocalypse. Followers under Koresh's leadership and ideology were sometimes referred to as Koreshians. You know what would be crazy? What really would be crazy is if heaven was real and the murder, like them being murdered, sent them to heaven.
Starting point is 01:27:40 because those people were murdered like you ever see with the actual footage of the when they stormed Waco no oh bro it's crazy they killed those people they lit them on fire they drove tanks into the buildings and flames are shooting out of the tanks
Starting point is 01:27:56 they just cook those people not just Koresh not just people that are like everybody men women children they got cooked what were they trying to do in the first place just to have them disarmed well there was a problem with there's a lot to the story.
Starting point is 01:28:11 And it seems like in the beginning there might have been some governmental overreach like they were trying to get a win and they were trying to like, who described this to us? Was it Oliver Stone? Who is telling,
Starting point is 01:28:26 it might have been Daryl Cooper. Darryl Cooper has an amazing series all on the Waco. No, he doesn't. It's the Epstein files. He doesn't have, he has one on Guyana. That's what he has on.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Somebody has one on Koresh. Is it Cooper? So who has a series on Koresh? I'm sorry, I'm blanking here, but the point is they wanted to win. So they wanted to take out this cult, and so they exaggerated what they were doing, and they had to stand down. So they stood outside of the gates with fucking armored vehicles and cops and men with guns, and they waited them out. And eventually it escalated. It escalated to them getting agents on the roof.
Starting point is 01:29:07 agents on the roof got shot at by the people that were in the cult and so then they started shooting at them and it became a gunfight and then they brought in tanks and lit it on fire and killed everybody it's a crazy story man it is crazy it is the whole thing there was a
Starting point is 01:29:23 I know there's a documentary on it as well that like details like all the different things that led up to the eventual storming of the compound did that because what year did that happen was that like 80? Yeah it was like I think it was like in either the early 90, like 90 or 80.
Starting point is 01:29:42 What was it? Well, the siege was in 93. Oh, was it really? 93. See, I don't remember that. I remember it. Like, I vaguely remember hearing about it. But in my mind, it's not like something that happened.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Yeah. You know? Because that's the same. That was right around, wasn't it around the OJ murder too? Yep. Yep. Because that trial was 94. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:03 So I was like, to me, that's a significant cultural event. And I don't remember the way. thing being like I remember hearing about it afterwards I don't remember hearing about it was happening oh I heard about it but where people what did how did the people react to the government just killing people even though they didn't know even though see it took there was no internet back then it took a while before people really got hip there was a few documentaries that released or some news footage that got released and maybe you can get a hold of a VHS tape some obscure VHS tape that might have something to do at Waco but
Starting point is 01:30:34 people really didn't know until they started making a doctor documentaries about it until they saw it on the internet. Once you can see it, because most people are just going to believe the narrative. What's the narrative? People had guns, which they did. The guy was a piece of shit and a cult leader, which he was. But like, how did it lead to mass murder? How did it lead to them just, well, it led to, they blocked out this guy's house. They, they, you know, and that's not even the worst one. The worst one is Ruby Ridge. That one's horrible. What happened to Ruby Ridge? Put that into perplexity. Ruby Ridge. This one's a crazy story. because the Ruby Ridge story is like totally avoidable and horrific like they shot a mother while she was holding her baby like crazy this these family there was like a family of like preppers they were like out in the woods and you know maybe the guy was like a little radical but they completely escalated it was this in Texas too murdered no I don't remember where that was um where was that Idaho okay incident was 11 day standoff in August of 1992 in Boundary County, Idaho, involving Randy Weaver, his family, and a friend, Kevin Harris, against U.S. Marshals and FBI agents. It began when U.S. Marshal sought to arrest Randy Weaver for failing to appear in court on federal firearms charges related to the sale of a modified shotgun. The situation escalated after Weaver's dog was shot by a marshal during surveillance, leading to a firefight in which Weaver's 14-year-old son, Samuel, was killed by gunfire. Kevin Harris, a family friend, shot and killed Deputy Marshal William Deegan during the exchange.
Starting point is 01:32:12 FBI hostage rescue team was called in, and during a sniper shot, Randy Weaver was wounded. The sniper's second shot intended for Harris also hit and killed Weaver's wife, Vicky, who was holding their infant daughter behind a cabin door. The siege ended when negotiators, including activists Bo Grits, convinced Weaver and Harris to surrender. Harris was arrested on August 30th, and Weaver, with his daughter, surrendered the next day. Criticism later arose over the FBI's rules of engagement and use of deadly force, particularly the constitutional legality of the sniper's second shot that killed Vicki Weaver. The standoff highlighted tensions between federal law enforcement and citizens, especially among anti-government and white separatist groups.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Weaver and Harris were charged with several offenses, but were acquitted of the most severe charges except Weaver's conviction. for failure to appear in court. Interesting. They were both acquitted. Damn. They got in a firefight with the feds and they were acquitted.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Well, Kevin Harris popped it off. And you know just... Look at that statement. Weaver and Harris were charged with several offenses, but were acquitted of the most severe charges except Weaver's conviction for failure to appear in court.
Starting point is 01:33:24 That's all they got them for. So nothing. Failure to appear in court. They killed his wife. They shot his kid. They killed his kid. They killed his dog. dog, and it was because he failed to appear in court, because he sold a modified gun.
Starting point is 01:33:38 I don't even know what that means. Was it a sought-off shotgun, which is illegal? Did he change the trigger? What did he do? Something. Did he put a large magazine at the bottom of it? Like, what did he do that was illegal? That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:50 But also, why are they allowed to kill your dog? Exactly. Because that's what popped it all off, right? Oh, you want to hear one of the worst ones of that? There was a mayor. I forget what he was the mayor of. It might have been Washington, D.C., but he was a mayor, and he had a postman that was doing some sneaky shit, and the postman was getting weed delivered to his house, because they figured if I get it, I'm delivering the mail to the mayor's house, and if I get the weed delivered to the mayor's house, no one's going to check the mayor's packages for weed, so I know which one my friend sent to the mayor's house. I'll just take that, and that way, you know, I'll have the weed. and no one will be any of the wiser.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Well, unfortunately, someone was tracking that package and they knew that that weed was going to this particular address. They didn't know it was the mayor's house. So they stormed the mayor's house, shoot his fucking golden retriever, chase it out in the yard, or it's cowering and shoot it. And you've been around my golden retriever.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Like the golden retrievers are not biting anybody, ever, ever. They're the worst guard dogs in the history of the world. Anybody who comes into my house like, hey, you want to give me a treat? Like, he loves everybody. And they shot his dogs, they fucking zip tied his family, checked the whole house for weed, couldn't find anything. And then eventually it unraveled and they realized what had happened. Like the guy who was delivering his mail was also involved in this weed dealer.
Starting point is 01:35:20 And they, you know, they didn't piece it together until after they shot this guy's fucking dogs. But who's they? The cops, the SWAT team. They burst down his door. They did the whole thing, man. They came in guns, armor, fucking zip tied everybody. They thought they were breaking into the house of like a drug. That's how bad their information is.
Starting point is 01:35:39 It sounds like they need some weed. See if you can find that story because it's a very, it's a crazy story. And it was so heartbreaking because the family had to, the kids had to see their dog get shot by these cops for fucking no reason. No reason. They really got to start letting cops smoke weed. I think. Should be a requirement. Mushrooms.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Reeds not strong enough. But something to get, well, also it's like therapy and, you know, also it's like, hey, no for sure, like really do an investigation. How about find out who lives there? Oh my God, it's the mayor. Or like if you shoot a go over and retriever, you should probably have to retire. So here it is. Maryland. So police say Maryland mayor appears to be innocent victims of a scheme by two men to smuggle millions of dollars worth of marijuana by having it delivered to about a half a dozen unsuspecting recipients.
Starting point is 01:36:29 So he was one of the many people that this guy delivered mail to. So he got on from work, saw a package addressed to his wife on the front porch, brought it inside, putting it on a table. Suddenly, police with guns drawn, kicked in the door, stormed in, shooting to death the couple's two dogs and seizing the unopened package. In it were 32 pounds of marijuana, but the drugs evidently didn't belong to the couple. Police say the couple appeared to be innocent victims of a scheme by two young men to smuggle millions of dollars of marijuana, unsuspecting recipients. Two men under the arrest include a FedEx delivery man. Investigator said the delivery man would drop off a package outside of a home, and the other man would come by a short time later and pick it up.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Wow. Isn't that crazy? But only, hold on, so only the dogs died, though? Our dogs were our children. Yeah. Police apparently killed the dogs. He said, for sport, gunning down one of them as it was running away. Our dogs were our children, so the 37-year-old Calvo.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Two labs. Oh, there were labs. Oh, they were black labs. I thought they were golden retrievers. I fucked it up. Our dogs were our children. Again, lab, same thing. Labs aren't biting anybody.
Starting point is 01:37:36 The Swedish dogs in the world. Said the 37-year-old Calvolt, they were our reason we brought this house because it had a big yard for them to run in. Unfucking believable. He was handcuffed in his boxer shorts for about two hours. Along with his mother-in-law said the officers didn't believe him. We told him he was the mayor.
Starting point is 01:37:55 No charges were brought against Calvo. or his wife who came home in the middle of the raid. Fuck, man. But they ain't even apologize for killing dogs. Killed labs. Bro, you found a wild shit. Like, I just, I just... So sad.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I just came from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Like, the... You're, like, the Tulsa Massacre. What's the Tulsa Masker? It was, like, Black Wall Street. It was like... Why was this? This was the 20s, I think?
Starting point is 01:38:23 Or maybe the 1910s. Like the 1910s? where like after the trails of tears were all the civilized tribes basically they were told that they could have Oklahoma because the land smell funny there smell whatever and then they found oil
Starting point is 01:38:37 and that's that set out a whole bunch of shit because now you got a bunch of natives and freed slaves that's about to be rich so you'll see that movie the Flower Moon movie no I didn't see it oh but it's kind of like that like they would because you couldn't they couldn't sell their land
Starting point is 01:38:53 some tribes couldn't sell their land so you had to marry into the family and then if you killed everybody it was yours really yeah and so but Tulsa was it's black Wall Street but it was like the Greenwood area of Tulsa and they
Starting point is 01:39:09 and it was basically like a prosperous wealthy black community and it was a riot one night and they burned it all down and so they did this because of oil no well that was the backdrop for Oklahoma but but they did this just because of like racial
Starting point is 01:39:25 jealousy just like oh they did it because they were doing well yeah they were doing too well and it was a lot of racial tension in the community because the whole idea behind institutional racism is that poor white people don't mind being taken advantage of because they know that it's black people somewhere that's doing worse than them but that doesn't work if you live in next the dudes that's dress is better than you they got cars they got thriving business and it got racial like the national guard came in and and that was all stuff I learned before I went there, but then I went to the museum there. And I bring this up just because it would blow your mind
Starting point is 01:40:02 how recently they just now acknowledged it like five years ago. Right? This all happened because I was at the comedy club I was at, I mentioned to the owner. I was like, I've stayed in Hilton's all over the place. Why does my Hilton say, why does I have these pure things everywhere to tell you that the air is clean and the water's clean?
Starting point is 01:40:25 And he was like, oh, yeah, they just started filtering the water that goes to the north side of town, like a few years ago, like the black side of town. I was like, what? Like, how recently? He was like, 20. And me and my future were like, 20. It was like, yeah. Put that back up, please. So I was like, have you not been to the museum?
Starting point is 01:40:42 I'm like, no. And so we went over there and it was like, it was a heavy day. Bro, this is crazy. Look at this statistics here. Look how many blocks, 35 square blocks. of the neighborhood. Yeah. At the time, one of the wealthiest black communities in the United States, colloquially known
Starting point is 01:41:01 as Black Wall Street, more than 800 people were admitted to hospitals, as many 6,000 black residents of Tulsa were interned, many of them for several days. The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 36 dead. Wow. Yeah. And so they just now started, like the guy told me. Look at this. Estimates from up to, from 36 to up to around 300.
Starting point is 01:41:25 dead. 35 blocks. Yeah, they don't know how many are dead because it was a lot of mass graves
Starting point is 01:41:31 and stuff that they just started looking for. Holy shit, man. But even still to this day, they're not allowed to teach
Starting point is 01:41:37 about it in schools. Like, they just now started being allowed to teach about it, but they're not allowed to say
Starting point is 01:41:42 who was who. Even the YouTube video has age restricted. I was going to show it to you, but
Starting point is 01:41:46 the account I'm on I didn't want to do it. Yeah, this shit was crazy. And so, and so Joe, if you want to,
Starting point is 01:41:52 if you want to feel real uncomfortable, people. So I'll go in the museum and they have these holograms. So you sit in the barber chair and you can see yourself in the mirror, but there's a hologram of a barber like cutting your hair. There's three of them in the row. And they're like having a conversation about what's going on around town. It's, it's heavy, bro. Wow. Put that back up. So the cause of it, they're saying, so it says the master began during Memorial Weekend after a 19-year-old Dick Roland, a black shoestiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, a white 21-year-old elevator
Starting point is 01:42:30 operator in nearby Drexel building. He was arrested in rumors that he was to be lynch spread. The most widely reported and corroborated inciting incident occurred as the group of black men left when an elderly white man approached OB man, a black man, and demanded that he hand over his pistol. Man refused and the old man attempted to disarm. him. A gunshot went off and then according to the sheriff's reports all hell broke loose. The two groups shot at each other until
Starting point is 01:43:01 midnight when the group of black men were greatly outnumbered and forced to retreat to Greenwood. Fuck! At the end of the exchange of gunfire, 12 people were dead, 10 white and two black. Alternatively another eyewitness account was that the shooting began down the
Starting point is 01:43:17 street from the courthouse when black business owners came to the defense of a lone black man being attacked by a group of around six white men. It is possible the eyewitnesses did not recognize the fact that this incident was occurring as a part of a rolling gunfight that was already underway. Holy fuck, man. Yeah, shit went down in Greenwood.
Starting point is 01:43:36 And the thing is, it's still not back. So, so then they, they put a highway right through the middle of that neighborhood. And it completely, like, destroyed all of the, the economy and everything. Wow. Yeah, man. And I, like, I thought I knew about this shit. But then when I went there, it was real intense for me. But then we ate some good-ass food, though.
Starting point is 01:44:07 It was me and Lucas McCurry. And when we got done, when we got back to the hotel, he was like, oh, that's the blackest day I've ever had. I was like, might be mad, too. This is the place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's called the... Oh, wow. It's called the Black Wall Street Museum.
Starting point is 01:44:26 And they just recently admitted this? They admitted it probably in like 2010 or something like that. They acknowledged it. I mean, everyone already knew. But now they're just now getting to the point where they're allowed to teach it. But they still aren't allowed to say what the people look like. So they can say Group A did this and Group B did that, but they can't say black, white, they can't say,
Starting point is 01:44:50 Klan, this, you know. Really? Yeah, they still won't say certain people's names, because these are like because the Klan is heavily involved too. Like when you go to the museum, there's like a clan ledger of like the meeting, you know, like a roll call.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Wow. Yeah, this was a wild out there in Oklahoma. And the thing is, they still haven't recovered. That neighborhood is still not recovered. I mean, they never will at this point. The history of Oklahoma is so crazy. Oklahoma is well that's the thing so we get done the tour we walk out of the tour guide
Starting point is 01:45:23 and I walk past this guy I didn't know he was one of the guides because we didn't take a guide we just walked through the museum ourselves and he goes you look familiar and I was like you probably know me from comedy he was like oh yeah yeah and he is like the guide and then he
Starting point is 01:45:39 we walked around with him for like an hour and he just he told us he was like yeah they don't even say everything so this is also blah blah blah blah he took us to like all these historical spots and we We ate at this place called Sweet Listas, which, bro, you could taste, you could taste the struggle, the season,
Starting point is 01:45:56 everything, the season, just perfection. You know what I mean? You could just tell this recipe came from the ancestor. It was incredible. And it's like in this little shop, they just got indoors eating, you know? Wow. Yeah, it was like, it was almost like,
Starting point is 01:46:13 I guess because in my mind it's easy to learn about shit like that and think of it as something that happened a long time ago. But then to be there and realize, I was like, they still haven't come all the way back, you know. You see that photo of that lady, that Native American lady at the front door, whether she's breastfeeding a child? You've seen it. Oh, at the mothership?
Starting point is 01:46:30 Yeah, here, here in this room. Oh, no. I went outside. You never saw it? No, no. You know that one, you've seen the painting of a Native American face that's on bullets. It's like all the back. You see that?
Starting point is 01:46:43 That's Quana Parker. That lady, Cynthia and Parker. She was kidnapped by Comanche's in Oklahoma. So what they used to do in Oklahoma is, this is so dark, they would give people these plots of land knowing they were going to get attacked by the Comanches. Like, hey, you could go live out here. And they basically, like, use them as bait. They started conflict to try to conquer these territories by just having people go out there and get shot at and get killed and get slaughtered. And then eventually they would have to send the army out.
Starting point is 01:47:18 And then they won, after a long time, they eventually went through that and went through here. We're at Texas at the command. She ran this place too. But they killed her whole family and they stole her when she was nine years old and they kept her because they had a hard time having children. Because they had so many horse riders. They were riding horses all the time and a lot of women miscarried. So it's very difficult for the keep their numbers up. So when they would go on raiding parties, they would kill everybody except the children.
Starting point is 01:47:45 And then they incorporate the children into the tribe. Cynthia Ann Parker was the last of that tribe She gave birth to Quanta Parker Who was the last chief of that tribe She married the chief of the tribe She had a baby with him That baby, that half American baby Was Quana Parker
Starting point is 01:48:02 He was the last chief of the Comanchees So now there's no more Comanches I mean they still exist But they don't have a reservation Like you know like they don't have territory Oh word They were nomadic And they ran all
Starting point is 01:48:15 I mean I'm sure they Is there a Comanche reservation we should find that out probably not but it's they don't get represented because they didn't have art it's a crazy well what the dude was telling me that like so there were four tribes considered the civilized tribes and those are the people that agreed to like stop fighting in the united states to like learn english to like be christian those kind of things and they were promised Oklahoma knowing that it was already commended and so they got out there and got Yeah, the United States government did that with everybody.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Bro. The Comanchee nations, a federal-recognized tribe headquartered in Lawton, Oklahoma, but do they have a reservation there? There's no longer a Comanche reservation in Texas. The historical one established in 1854 near Clear Fork of the Brazos River in present-day Thak Morton County. The Comanche were later forced to relocate to Indian territory, now known as Oklahoma in 1859, after the reservation was dissolved
Starting point is 01:49:13 and the current Comanchee nation is based in Oklahoma. So it seems like they don't have a reservation. Bro, it's mad history that I'm so ignorant about. Got to read this book, Empire of the Summer Moon. Get it on audio. It's incredible. Empire of the Summer Moon.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Empire of the Summer Moon. I'll get it right now. It's all about the Comanchee in Texas and in Oklahoma. But that's part of the store. So what I was getting at is like the history of Oklahoma is just seeped in violence. And it's still not fixed.
Starting point is 01:49:41 It can't be But a lot of people are moving there right now Well I bet It's a lot of people Want to move to a place Where they don't get fucked with as much You know what California Is the new Empire of the Summer Moon
Starting point is 01:49:51 You know what California is proposing I don't know if they're going to do this If they're going to be able to pull this off But there's a new wealth tax That's basically they're going to tax Your Savings account I've looked that up It's only for 200 billionaires
Starting point is 01:50:06 What is what that's for What does that mean It's not for like every person. Okay. Even if it's for 200 billionaires, that's their fucking money. If you have a savings account, that means you pay taxes already. Like, that's the only way you get a savings account.
Starting point is 01:50:22 They're taxing billionaires' savings accounts? This is what I was reading today when people were talking about the proposition, this proposition of a wealth tax for savings accounts. That sounds, if I'm not reading into this incorrectly, it sounds crazy. Whatever. I'm just saying, I understand, but what? Why? Why? Why do you get to have a one-time tax of money that's already taxed? California does not currently have a wealth tax, but multiple proposals have been introduced, including a recent one for a one-time, five-percent tax on individuals with a net worth of over $1 billion.
Starting point is 01:50:57 Yeah, I'm with Jamie on this. Fuck him. Yeah, but not fuck them because that could be you someday. Here's the thing. It's like it starts with them and then it trickles down to someone who's worth $500,000 or $5 million or whatever. 5% on money that you've already been taxed for And then goes to what, though? When you say fuck them All it does is make more bloated government Because what are they going to do? They're going to spend it wisely?
Starting point is 01:51:18 They never spend any money wisely But the reason I say fuck them is because most of these billionaires They go out of their way not to pay the taxes They're supposed to pay anyway. It's not like they're getting taxed. You know, a lot of these motherfuckers don't even pay any taxes. Oh, that's not true. They all pay taxes.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Everyone pays taxes. It's just taxes on what? Like a lot of them, the way it works is all your money is in assets and you get paid a certain amount by the company. Like that's how like so when someone's worth X amount of money that's not like how much money they have
Starting point is 01:51:48 liquid. Right, right, I get it. You know, that's a lot of it. But the point is no, the government should not be taking your money that's already been taxed. If that's if I'm reading into this correctly so if you get a paycheck from the mothership and then you do your taxes
Starting point is 01:52:04 and then you take that money and you put it in a savings account, you've already paid your taxes So if you've already paid your taxes on that money, how can they tax money that you've already taxed? That's crazy. I don't give a fuck how much money they own. I don't care how much. If there's a loophole in the tax code, fix the loophole. But if it's there and that's the law, and they're able to skirt around that law in whatever way that's legal, you don't get to steal their money.
Starting point is 01:52:29 According to the Washington Post, this is from a health care workers union. That's a recent proposal, and it will go to fund health care spending. It still has to be voted on also. But either way, all you're doing is taking money from people. And the group believes this could raise about $100 billion. Right. And what would they do with it? What do they do with the fire money?
Starting point is 01:52:52 What happened to all the money that was raised for the Pacific Palisades Fire? Does anybody know? That was a charity being corrupt. That wasn't the government. Right. But this is what I'm saying. It's the same thing. It's a group of people.
Starting point is 01:53:03 You're giving them a bunch of money, and they're supposed to allocate it in a positive way. Whether it's the government or whether it's a charity, who fucking trusts anybody that's doing these things to be wise with the money, where it makes sense. Where you're a billionaire going, you know what, I like it. Take my 5% and we're going to fix crime.
Starting point is 01:53:21 You're not fixing shit. You're just going to take my money and you're just going to be more incompetent. Do you know, when Gavin Newsom got into office, they had a surplus. California had a surplus. Really? Yes. Why don't you Google that? What was the
Starting point is 01:53:36 what was the surplus of California and during the time where Gavin Newsom was the governor how much is the deficit now? Because I only hear surplus with regard to Bill Clinton. Bro, they spent $24 billion on the homeless crisis and it got worse. So this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:53:57 You're going to take tax money and you're going to do what with it? In 2022, California Governor Gavin Newsom announced record-breaking budget surplus of approximately $97.5 billion, which was projected to fund new initiatives like cash payments to residents and investments in drought relief, child care, and education. However, the state later forced a significant budget deficit, excuse me, however, the state later faced a significant budget deficit primarily due to overestimating revenues from
Starting point is 01:54:27 a booming stock market that later declined, coupled with increasing spending commitments during the surplus period. By 2024, Newsom was proposing a budget to close a multi-billion-dollar deficit, which required spending cuts and other measures to balance a budget. So the surplus of $97.5 billion, it became a multi-billion dollar deficit in two years. Because of the stock market? It seems like there's a lot of stuff. Overestimating revenues, increased spending commitments. which is probably a big part of it. They probably spent too much money during the surplus period.
Starting point is 01:55:08 But the point is, it's mismanagement. What if they only tax the people that's on the Epstein list? Ah, you only get so much. You just take all their money. Yeah, if you're on the list, take all your money. They'd probably only get a few hundred billion dollars. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:55:20 It's like, at the end of the day, they're going to blow through that money. It sounds crazy, but they're going to blow through that money. They blow through all the money. But, you know, I mean, you're right, it's not fair on paper, but it's hard to have empathy for people that have, way more than the people. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. I'm not having empathy. I'm just
Starting point is 01:55:37 recognizing the law and recognizing where this goes. The problem with any any decision that we make on people that have more money than us, eventually it's going to trickle down to you because if they could just tax these people because there's only 200 of them, they can't really talk too much shit. You're like, okay, but why are you doing that? If they did something illegal to get that money and you know, you're going to punish them for that, I'm all with you. But if they have the money and then it's in their savings account and then you decide to tax the savings account because you need money to do what more incompetent bullshit that's the problem like they're not competent if they were if you're going to take that 5% and you knew this is going to be what cleans up
Starting point is 01:56:16 the palisades this is going to be what fixes education but it's not it's not going to do anything the homeless crisis gets worse it's bigger than ever well that's a that's a whole that's a whole racket because i i i experienced that firsthand it's just it's just people making money That money isn't going to actually help anybody that's on the streets. I mean, it kind of is, but not really, you know? There's so many charities that are dirty. Just like people that are dirty, you know, like those creepy guys who pretend to be male feminists, and you know they're really a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:56:48 You know what I mean? Like, that's the type of people that set up charities, but they really just want the money. Like, there's people that have run charities where the charity makes, the actual thing makes like 6%, 10% of the money generated. Most of it goes to the people And they have lavish lifestyles They get paid tremendous salaries To run charity The shelter I was living in
Starting point is 01:57:10 How we The guy that was running the place He got high And then the The executive had to show up And he pulled up in a fucking phantom With a fancy-ass suit on And the nice sales watch
Starting point is 01:57:24 I was like hold on how the fuck is he Because that's the first time It hit everybody like Oh this isn't a business Yeah it's a business Yeah It's a business. They're generating income, spending the least amount possible,
Starting point is 01:57:34 providing you with the least amount of care that they have to, and then pocketing the rest and say we've got a high overhead, very high overhead. As long as somebody dies. Because that's the thing. It's all a racket and everyone knows it's like all wink, wink. But the rules actually applied to the actual homeless residents. But it was all nonsense. It was like they were real strict about you,
Starting point is 01:57:54 make sure you sign in these papers saying you were doing these activities because they were getting grants for those things. Exactly. But I was like, well, just put my signature in there. This is all bullshit. Right. But, yeah, I think most charities are scam. Most charities have an element of scam.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Yeah. There's a lot of legitimate charities out there for sure. There's a lot of really good charitable people out there for sure. Real people that are doing charities for the right reasons. Yeah, well, the workers, a lot of the workers are in there for the right reason. Yes. But it's just like colleges, right? Where it's like, it's just that the entity has become so bloated with, because I think, I think,
Starting point is 01:58:29 I think can you look it up, Jamie, most of like the top universities, most of their money goes towards administration. So they've just, you know, first they hire people to collect the money and then they've got to hire more people to watch over those people. Right. And then before you know it, the whole admin side is so bloated that the college gets upside down if they don't raise tuition. You know, and it just keeps going and then it's a cycle that just keep going and going and going and going. And then they have donors, which is weird. I don't understand how that works Crazy amounts of money
Starting point is 01:59:01 People donate to colleges Yeah, people love their alma maters But there must be a tax thing too Where does the money from most universities go The money from most universities Primarily goes towards faculty and staff salaries Student services and campus maintenance Significant portion is also allocated
Starting point is 01:59:18 to research academic programs and scholarships Universities spend On maintaining buildings and facilities supporting student housing and dining health care technology upgrades and activities like sports and events government funding tuition investments grants donations blah blah blah blah blah eventually administrative costs and strategic initiatives also consume parts of the budget overall salaries and wages usually make up the largest expenditure category for universities so it's salaries yeah they get a lot of money it's salary for the for the for the abing people the fucking coaches some of those coaches
Starting point is 01:59:53 Well, there's weird gigs that people have where, like, a major university will pay someone like a half a million dollars a year to do stuff. Like, does Elizabeth Warren get paid from Harvard still? To, like, you could, like, teach. Yeah, like, you know who had one of them gigs? Biden. He had one of them gigs where they gave him, like, a million dollars a year and he pretended he was a professor. And then, you know, like he said, when I taught law at Penn State or wherever it was, he taught law. It was like professor.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he never taught class. Like, it's all horseshit. Oh, he was never anybody. You got one of them sweet gigs where you get money from the university. Bro, sign me up. Those are like mafia jobs. Yeah, I'll take a bullshit job in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Elizabeth Warren, currently United States Senator, she's on leave from her teaching position at Harvard and no longer receives a salary from the university. Her current annual salary as a senator is $174,000. She and her husband, also a Harvard professor, report additional income from book, royalties, and investments. Her salary for this 2010 to 2011 was reported at $429,000.
Starting point is 02:01:01 This figure came under scrutiny during her first Senate campaign with critics mischaracterizing it as payment for teaching only one class. PolitiFact rated this claim half true because the amount covered a two-year period in which she taught two classes and was on leave to advise the Obama administration and also reflected her status. as a high-ranking, accomplished professor and researcher. Stop mischaracterizing with this. Joe. What is her net worth? Goop. Put that in there. Net worth.
Starting point is 02:01:34 That's not going to be accurate. Let's find out. Bro, this shit's always wrong. Okay. It's not a good place to look. Yeah. Because I look, the net worth shit, the internet be, they say they're worth $4 million. I say, where the fuck that money at?
Starting point is 02:01:48 Maybe they just say you should be. I think people just be making up shit. Well, they definitely do that. Yeah, they definitely make up stuff, especially those web, that's like some Indian website, some scammer dude is just faking it, just trying to get clicks. Maybe they say it says an estimated, this is in Open Secrets. Oh, in the Senate. In the Senate. So an estimated net worth of $7,977,000 in 2018.
Starting point is 02:02:19 That was in 2018. she was worth that much. Isn't there an app where you can, like, match the stock trades of senators? Yes, the Pelosi tracker. Oh, it's just her? Yeah, she's the best. Oh, she's the go. So if you just make all the same moves she make, you'll be good?
Starting point is 02:02:33 You'll make some money. Yeah, 100%. Especially if you act quick. I'm sure there's a lot of people doing exactly what she does the moment she does. I got to get one of those guys and just be like, put it all on. She makes, okay, now she's worth $30 million. No, no, no, no, no. What's that?
Starting point is 02:02:46 This is the Pelosi tracker. Oh. There's 14,000. 557 copiers. I was going to say she's worth way more than $30 million, right? They invested that much money. Isn't she worth like a couple hundred million? I think so.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Yeah, she's worth a lot. She's about to retire. Of course. She's got $400 million and she's a million years old. Why is she still working? It's crazy. Imagine working at that age, 82. I think they're addicted to the power.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Power. You can't have... Let's bring up Marjor Taylor Green's recent stock trades. Oh, she's been making some stock trades? Yeah, it follows everybody. Bro, they all do. They all do. They all do.
Starting point is 02:03:24 I think that should be illegal. It should be illegal. I don't think anyone in the federal government should be able to trade stocks. Well, especially with stuff where you have some inside knowledge about a bill that's going to be passed that would be very, very good for some corporation. Right. Or they all have to invest through like there's a non-partisan government agency where they can put all their money they want to invest, that invests everyone's money in the same thing? No, no, no. No?
Starting point is 02:03:48 Because you start doing that. then you got more corruption, more room for bureaucracy, more room for bullshit. You got too much money flowing around. They're not going to be, they're not going to be even with that. So what do you say to the argument that they should be able to? No. No, no, you're insider trading. But if they just tell people to do it for them, how do you stop that?
Starting point is 02:04:03 Well, that's what they're supposed to be doing now? Yeah, I mean, what's the end? No, that could be a problem. But at least then they could catch you and you can get in trouble. That's how insider trading works. So say if they do that and they do it, you know, through WhatsApp or something like that, and then the government gets access to your WhatsApp and then they find out you've been trading.
Starting point is 02:04:22 That's been email this thing with the lady getting emailed. Stacey Platt? During it's like, what? No. If it were up to me, it'd be Judge Dredd shit. We're like, you get four terms and then they take you out and they just put you out in the desert with nothing. They take all your shit, donate it back to the people and they just send your ass.
Starting point is 02:04:40 You were in charge for, you know, have a long and now get the fuck out of here. Look, there's no way you make $170,000 a year and you're worth, let's say she's worth $180 million. I've heard it's a lot more than that. I've heard estimates as high as $400 million. But there's no way
Starting point is 02:04:58 a regular person who makes $170,000 a year ever gets there and keeps that $170,000 year job. Get the fuck out of here. There's not a chance in hell. You keep that $170,000 a year job where you're working eight hours a day, every fucking day.
Starting point is 02:05:13 And on the side, you've racked up $4,000, million? Well, bitch, that's what you're good at. Imagine if you were doing that all day long while you've been working in the Senate. You would have even more money. Are you crazy? You're wasting all your valuable time and resources doing a job that pays you $170,000 a year. But it has nothing to do with your investments. Why would you even suspect that it has anything to do with the profit that I make from my investments? Is she the richest person in Congress? She got to be up there. She can't be. Well, there's probably some billionaires who signed up and won and got into office somewhere. There's probably
Starting point is 02:05:48 a lot of them. But they're all, the thing is, they're all richer when they leave. Well, Bloomberg, wasn't he like a multi-billionaire when he became the mayor of New York City? I don't know. I think he was. Michael Bloomberg is crazy rich. I think he was a billionaire while he became mayor because he wanted to fix New York City because
Starting point is 02:06:04 he loved it. That's the standard. Did he work? I was just there. It was nice. It's worth a hundred and nine billion estimated? Yeah. He's worth a lot of money. Imagine. Richest person. Those sandwiches, those sandwiches you put up?
Starting point is 02:06:18 Ooh, Giovanni's Italian deli, bro. You can barely get your mouth on them. They're like that big. I want him to come out here. I want him to open up a deli out here. Will you, like you were talking to him about it? He said he would be interested in doing it. I mean, look, he's a fucking hilarious character.
Starting point is 02:06:35 He's a very funny guy. And his food is fucking sensational. And all of it gets imported from Italy. So he can import it from Italy. All the ingredients? Yes. Everything is imported from Italy. Or the mortadella, the mozzarella, all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:50 So he's getting it all from Italy. All the sun-dried peppers. Bro, it's sensational. I mean, it looked good. I've still never had... Next time. I never had a chance to try it. Next time.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Next time I'm going to go to New York. You're coming with me. All right. Deal. Bro, you're going to feel so bad the next day, though. Oh, my God, Sunday. I was like, I'm not eating anymore. I looked like I was pregnant.
Starting point is 02:07:09 My stomach was out like that far. I ate so much. Yeah. He gave me a four-foot-long sandwich, dude. It was four feet long I just kept stuffing it in my fat face I ate meatballs I ate four or five canoles
Starting point is 02:07:22 I ate so much I should not have gone that deep What did they cater to the event Why do they jump off giant sandwiches He just does it for me Does like I've blown him up online I've blown him up on the podcast His deli's killing it
Starting point is 02:07:36 That's a good guy He's a great guy And I found them just randomly G&R Delhi in the Bronx That's how I found them After you left What do you mean After you left New York.
Starting point is 02:07:45 This is like... Oh, yay. This is recently. This is like within a couple of years. I, you know, because most of the time I eat really clean. Most of the time it's just meat. But when I go off, I like to really go off. Yeah, I've seen you literally like eat like a hostage.
Starting point is 02:08:00 Like somebody that just got released for it's a problem. I'm a real glutton, man. I eat massive. It's not just eating food that I shouldn't be eating. I'll eat a massive amount of it. Yeah. Some good pasta. It's hard to stop.
Starting point is 02:08:15 I can't stop. It's hard to stop. Oh, yeah. Well, so I ate at this place, Terisi with my wife on Friday night. That was incredible. It was Italian food. I ate way too much there. It was insensational.
Starting point is 02:08:27 And then the next day, Giovanni shows up with these two giant four-foot sandwiches. But my rule is when I'm in New York, all bets are off. All that diet shits out the window. I'm eating for fun. I'm just eating for fun when I'm in New York. My greedy ass, I ate it diet. Didi. How you said? Oh, Dai Duet. Yeah. Had a Dai Dui on Sunday, and then I did sushi by scratch last night. Oh, my God. Shout out to Jesse Griffith. Jesse's the head chef and the owner of Dai Duet. He's the man.
Starting point is 02:08:55 I stumbled on in that place, and I thought I was putting you on you. Like, oh, I know that guy. Yeah, I found out about that place years ago because he was on my friend Stephen Rinell's podcast. And I was like, oh, that guy is so interesting. And so I actually had, I don't know if I had him on my podcast before I ate at this. restaurant or after i don't remember but then we went to his restaurant like during the pandemic when we first moved here and it was like you had to be spread out we actually ate outside the first time we did it because we couldn't eat inside yet bro and you know you know and i because i love because you know it's great restaurants all of austin and i and i know it's going to be good whenever the staff is generally happy to be there like you go and i do it everyone fucking
Starting point is 02:09:40 loves it there especially like if you see old people working there Yeah, yeah, yeah, you see somebody, like, you know, that's pushing 50, and they still love, and they're happy and gingerly, that it's, you know it's going to be good. Yeah, Dai Duet is sensational. Yeah, the thing, and the thing about them is everything is from Texas. Mm-hmm. There's nothing in there. You can't, like, you can't even get, like, a Diet Coke in there. They don't have anything that ain't from Texas.
Starting point is 02:10:06 Mm. Nothing. So good, too. Yeah. And he always has, like, exotic shit on the menu. Yeah, the menu is always changing. But you can always get those pork chops. Oh, yes, pork chops are sensational.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Sensational. Yeah, everything's sensationalional. Jesse's, like, one of the best chefs in the country. I've been there enough times now where I know, like, anything you order is going to be good. We are spoiled here, bro. Yeah, big time. There's so much good food in Texas, and specifically in Austin. At the medium to high level.
Starting point is 02:10:37 The fast food is trash. Like, if you, seriously, like, if you're, if it's not a Texas fast, food place it's such a phenomenon to me like what's trash like everything that's not a texas like dan's is great what a burger's great but like but like chick filet is not as good macdonald's is not as good winnie's is terrible i had chick fillet like a month ago was amazing no it's okay but but it's but it's it's not up to the service is not as good i mean chifelay tastes the same everywhere you go inside yeah yeah i'm going inside or if chick flay is a drunk or if i're Five through thing, man.
Starting point is 02:11:15 You want to eat in your car like a pig. Like a disgusting person who hates himself. But Chick-fil-A might be somewhat of exception, but like even in and out, even in and out here is not as good. Were you telling me that Chick-fil-A has like aluminum in it? Were you one of those telling me? That's probably Kurt Messkiss-Gas. That was Tony, I think.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Was Tony? Yeah, it was Tony. Yeah, he was saying Chick-fil-A has aluminum in it or something. What? What does it have in it? What is a controversial ingredient? I think it's at the buns or something, but it's aluminum. It's in a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 02:11:42 aluminum what though it's not just aluminum no no no no it's not it's foil they grind up foil it makes it thicker but sometimes certain names sound scary
Starting point is 02:11:54 right right right but it's just it's something normal right like vitamin C sounds scary exorbit acid like oh no sodium aluminum phosphate yeah is that a preservative oh look at
Starting point is 02:12:06 man fuck preservatives that's what's wrong with us everything is preserving your gut biome it's all getting in there all this bacteria sodium aluminum phosphate yeah I don't think that's bad but also
Starting point is 02:12:21 I've probably eating so much of whatever that is yeah oh yeah yeah that's when you think about like food like that you're just not supposed to eat it every day that's all it is it's really good if you just want to eat it and enjoy it like
Starting point is 02:12:36 you ever have canes those chicken fingers yeah yeah I've had king's good canes yeah it's pretty good Just don't do it every day Just every now and again But again, even Keynes Even Keynes is better in other places What? Are you a Keynes connoisseur?
Starting point is 02:12:52 No, no, but I'm just, I've eaten I'm a fast food, I've eaten a lot of fast food I've heard that in and out here is not as good In and out here is not as good Wendy's is not as good Does the in and out here have the same? KFC is bad Does it in and out here have the same sort of menu
Starting point is 02:13:07 Or you can get off menu stuff? It's the same everything except the service sucks and the food is not as it's just not as consistent you know what I mean okay because I've never before being
Starting point is 02:13:19 before here I've never been to it because you know like Chick-filet in and out that's a certain standard especially if you come from L.A. But you said McDonald's too yeah the McDonald's here is trash
Starting point is 02:13:29 it's a food distribution issue is it? Yeah this happened once when McDonald's actually bought like my favorite pizza place from Ohio they couldn't expand it right because like you couldn't get
Starting point is 02:13:38 the same ingredients you get in Ohio in Florida So you don't like your quality But doesn't McDonald's Like send all the ingredients to all their places But that means you don't have one giant McDonald's farm You don't?
Starting point is 02:13:50 No No It's not how I mean We would know where that is You know Oh my God You imagine the slaughter going on At the McDonald's farm
Starting point is 02:13:57 How many fucking cows are losing their life? You got a source that shit locally But if I'm going to eat at McDonald's Any city You can find the good McDonald's Like you just Google With the good McDonald's in Detroit whatever, but here there aren't any.
Starting point is 02:14:12 They're all terrible. Interesting. Yeah. And so it's a food distribution thing? I'm pretty sure. How are they getting bad beef in Texas? It's not bad beef, but it's just not the same. It's not consistent.
Starting point is 02:14:22 It's not the exact same. So the process, you might not have the same. Because the thing is, it's not great food. You eat at McDonald's because you know what you're going to get. Right. It tastes just like it does every other time you've had it. It's not because it's the best. No.
Starting point is 02:14:35 So when you, when you settle for McDonald's, right? and you just, you know, it's like... And you have a standard. Yeah, it's like calling your ex. You know, it's like you settle for it, and it's not as good. You just, no, it's like it's got to taste like I'm expecting. Got it. You know, but it's just off.
Starting point is 02:14:51 Have you ever seen some people argue that restaurants are just who can cook the best Cisco food? So it's like they're all getting it from the same kind of distributor. Well, I think most of them are. Really? But it's, I mean, that's really dwindling it down to the base of like, that's not really what everything's happening. Yeah, like I'm pretty sure if you see like Southwest Egg Rolls
Starting point is 02:15:10 Like it's probably a 50% chance that that came from a Cisco freezer You know that Mexican place you turned me on to went under I know That's a bummer I can't believe it. Bolivar, is that what it's called? No, no, that's not what it's called. Boulevard is what place is delivered.
Starting point is 02:15:22 I don't remember what it was called man But it was incredible. It was so good. Yeah, maybe they just moved. Maybe I need to look them up because I forget the name of it. I don't know, man. I think they went under because they spent a lot of money on that place. Remember the artwork in that place?
Starting point is 02:15:33 Yeah. Well, the location was not because they weren't near any other restaurants It wasn't terrible though It wasn't hard to find Yeah but it's still off the path of like any Like if you had to go over there There was no other reason to go over there
Starting point is 02:15:46 Right But you go over there for a restaurant Like it seemed like they were packed when I was there That's what it was confusing They were they were But towards the end It started being less and less That happens man
Starting point is 02:15:58 People get excited about a new place And it's popping at first And then it just sort of dies off Yeah But that's the first one of a That's the first time I've seen a great restaurant go under that I liked. I know. And quick.
Starting point is 02:16:11 Yeah. It was probably a year. Yeah. It's a fucking tough business, man. It's a tough business. Yeah. And that was started by a guy who, like, knew what he was doing. That's how tough it is.
Starting point is 02:16:22 Right? Don't you know the guy? I met him. No. Okay. Yeah. I met him there. You know what I wish they would bring here as a bizarre meat.
Starting point is 02:16:31 Oh, yeah. I mean, it's probably, he probably would go to, like, a bigger city than Austin maybe, but... Well, he's got one in Chicago. He just opened up one in New York. Oh, really? Yeah, we ate the one in Chicago. It was great.
Starting point is 02:16:43 Oh, of course. And the new one in Vegas. He's got a new one in Vegas. He moved spots. Oh, okay. To a different casino? Yeah, same deal, though. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:16:50 Of course. It's got to be. Sensational. Off the charts. Oh, bro. And they always look out. Yeah. They're great.
Starting point is 02:16:56 Yeah. And Jose And Dres came on the podcast. The head chef. Oh, word? He was great. Such a nice guy, man. That guy, genuine, like, you want to talk about real charity, that guy genuinely goes to like war-torn regions, anywhere there's some sort of a
Starting point is 02:17:12 natural disaster, and he brings trucks, and they start cooking, and they feed people for free. They feed people that level of food. Yes. His food. His food. He loves helping people, like genuinely loves helping people, and loves cooking for people. And he went to Poland and was catching the Ukrainian refugees when they were leaving Ukraine and these people were starving and he set up shop and started feeding him.
Starting point is 02:17:38 That's how good a guy that is. Yeah, and he's a master. A master chef. His restaurants are incredible. He came in here he was making food for us while we're doing the podcast. How?
Starting point is 02:17:47 Like he had a hot plate of him? He had a piece of ham. He was cutting off ham and shit. Oh, he had like that fancy-ass ham. Yeah. Hamon, hamoan, this thin sliced. Remember that? It comes with like a stand.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Yeah, man. He gave me a whole leg. I took it home with me. Yeah, it'll last. It lasts forever. Yeah, last forever. It's cured. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Bro, it's so good. It's so good. Good food's going to be the downfall of me. Yeah, but you could have both. Yeah, you can have both. You just got to have, like, you ever see the Rock's cheat meals? Yeah. On Sundays, the Rock will have these legendary cheat meals.
Starting point is 02:18:18 I don't know if he still does it, but he would post him on Instagram. It was like a stack of pancakes, giant chocolate chip cookies. No, but the Rock shrunk down now, like John's there. Yeah. Yeah. I think he got too big because he did that movie, the movie about Mark Kerr. The Smashing Machine. By the way, it didn't get the love it deserves.
Starting point is 02:18:38 It's a really good movie. It's not just an M.M.A. movie. It's a very realistic M.M.A. movie, too. It's like really, like the rock is Mark Kerr. They even gave him like a forehead thing, like a prosthesis, so he looked more like a Neanderthal like Mark Kerr does. I thought he was going to get a nomination for that. He gained 30 pounds of muscle wore 22 prosthetics
Starting point is 02:18:58 and trained in M.A. camp to physically transform for his role as Mark Kerr. Look what he looked like. Scroll up so you can see what he looked like. Look what he looked like there. That's Mark. That's the actual Mark, and that's the Rock next to him. But that's the Rock, obviously, playing Mark when he was younger. Oh, is Mark Hurst had a lot?
Starting point is 02:19:13 Yeah, yeah, he did my podcast recently. Oh. Yeah, man, that Smashing Machine documentary is crazy. I thought the Rock was going to get a nominated for that. He should have. He should have. He did a fantastic job, but nobody watched it. It's one of those just slipped under.
Starting point is 02:19:28 If it comes out to streaming, I can't recommend it enough. It's a really good movie. And it's not just an MMA movie. It's like, there's moments in that movie where you get anxiety. Like, oh, my God, don't do that. Jesus Christ, what are you doing? It's one of those movies. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:19:42 But he does a phenomenal job, phenomenal. He hasn't not been nominated yet. They haven't come out yet. Oh. Oh, well, he should be for that. I don't think he will get, you know, it's hard. The Academy and a martial arts movie, and it's like, you know, it's for meatheads. Jimmy, I'm surprised you ain't got no sponsorships with a search app.
Starting point is 02:20:00 What do you mean? What you mean? Literally known for looking shit up. Well, they should call me. Holley at your boy. Let's wrap this bitch up. Let's get it. So tell everybody, name your special where they can get it.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Special is Live for the Mothership. You can see it right now, streaming on Netflix. You can also watch the Don't Tell thing. Just came out, and you can come see me on tour, Brian Simpsoncomedy.com. And my podcast, BS with Brian Simpson, and also on YouTube and all the other streaming platforms. And I will see you in a few hours.
Starting point is 02:20:28 We're going to have some fun. Tonight, let's go. All right. Goodbye, everybody. Thank you.

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