The Joe Rogan Experience - #2487 - Action Bronson

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

Action Bronson is a musician, chef, artist, and host of “Fuck That’s Delicious.” His next album, “Planet Frog,” is expected later this year.www.youtube.com/@ActionBronsonMusicwww.actionbrons...on.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get Visible for just $20/mo for 1 year. Use code FRESHSTART. Switch & see terms at https://www.visible.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. That would brought a smile to my face. Yeah, at all the weird shit that someone's given me. That's at the top. Well, I got this. This is a woolly mammoth tooth that my friend John gave me.
Starting point is 00:00:24 That's fucking ridiculous. A woolly mammoth with a woolly mammoth carved into it. That's craziness. That's crazy, right? That tooth's probably 10,000 years old. No bullshit. the balls to carve into it too. I know. I would never. I mean,
Starting point is 00:00:37 it's beautiful. That's gorgeous. The guy did it. He nailed it. I mean, it's a beautiful little elephant there. That's fucking unbelievable. But I would never carve into one of these things. It almost looks like an alligator gar from the side, like a little alligator jaw. Right. It doesn't work. Right? The thing about these teeth, though,
Starting point is 00:00:55 is they find so many of them that they don't think of them as precious. So you're allowed to do stuff with them. Like, you could buy a knife with a woolly mammoth handle. Like this is a piece of woolly mammoth that they make for a gun.
Starting point is 00:01:11 So you could put that on a 1911 is a handle made out of a woolly mammoth teeth. You just have a this is an extra handle? Is this this handle? It's the pistol. Or this handle? It's the pistol handle. Yeah. And this is a piece. It would make a good handle for this one too, like the front
Starting point is 00:01:27 one for fucking, like if you're holding a sick-ass thing. Sick ass thing, yeah. Yeah, I definitely could that too. I mean, they basically could make anything they want out of it. They make folding knives out of it. Jamie has a folding knife out of it. Can you make piano keys out of it? Oh yeah, you definitely could. Yeah. The woolly mammoth pea... They use it for... The woolly mammothed sir? You could, right? You definitely could if you could use ivory. You could use woolly mammoth ivory. Because they use it in pool cues. This is a tooth too. This... I used to have my own pool cue. Unscrewed it. I used to come to the fucking pool hall with unscrew the fucking thing and get nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:03 with it. Having a pool, like having a pool cue is, you're a different level of human being when you're walking around with that. You're not playing games. You're not playing games. You're there to play games, but you're not playing. It's a very serious thing. It's a cool thing. You show up with your own cue, like in the hustler. The guy shows up with a leather satchel. Come on. That satchel alone. Yeah. It's male accessories. Right. I love a good male accessory. Right. Like, we don't have a lot. We have a knife. A knife always looks good on the side A gun
Starting point is 00:02:35 Watch Watch is a good male It's like the most acceptable Male jewelry For sure Watches I don't want no one with a nose ring I don't want to pull up with this one
Starting point is 00:02:46 Or like The Bromable nose ring You could pull off gold chains And diamonds and shit Because you're a rapper No no I'm not No one knows me as that But you are a blue collar guy
Starting point is 00:02:57 I don't even look good With jewelry on I agree I do too I feel stupid I never wear a chain. I feel stupid. I don't own a chain.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I had a chain back in the day. It had a little miniature Tasmanian devil piece. That was the tattoo everybody in high school got. Taz was the first. I want one now. Taz with boxing gloves. Oh, for sure. Boxing gloves with the child's name.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I have that on my head. Yeah, my friend Kenny got that. It was his first tattoo when we were in high school. Tasmania devil with a boxing glove. We were all like, sick. Because we're like 16. The Taz was Still to this day
Starting point is 00:03:34 One of like that and barbed wire If you had barbed wire Right And Taz Dudes went so far with barbed wire They got barbed wire around their ankle Which is That's unacceptable
Starting point is 00:03:43 A big mistake It was Pamela Anderson with the barbed I remember that one? She had it on Didn't she have it on her ankle Or she had on an arm On the arm Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:50 A movie A lot of dudes had it on the arm Fairly okay It's kind of a bad decision But it's okay But on the ankle Any type of ankle accessory jewelry other than like a surveillance.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It really, for me, it doesn't work. My ankle's way too balka and it's a thick-ass ankle. Right, right, right, right. It doesn't hold jewelry well. No ankle does. No male ankle hold jewelry well. I mean, I don't believe in it. Listen, I'm not telling you what to do.
Starting point is 00:04:22 If you're a guy who likes beads on your ankle, feel free. If I go to club med and come back with the braids and the ankle twist. You know, then it's like we're on vacation. Even on vacation, ankle jewelry is odd for a man. But, you know, people start acting different when they go on vacation. I have friends that wear different outfits. Shorts get shorter. Shirts get tighter.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Right. Pieces of clothing just remove themselves. Right. It's like wearing, I need to wear the Velcro pants to just rip them off. Sometimes when you're on vacation, you just don't want to be yourself for a week. I feel that. Just relax. Can I just cut them?
Starting point is 00:04:59 this fucking tie off of me. Yeah, get that ass. I also don't want an agenda. Right. I don't want to have, like, we're doing this, we're doing that. Oh, I don't like that. Vacation is not to have a schedule. I think the schedule should be around eating.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Oh. That's what I believe. That's my feeling is, like, cool, ancient things. Like, if you're in a cool place, like Athens. You know, you definitely got to go seek some cool ancient shit. But get the good grub. Speaking my language. Now, find the spots.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Find the spots. I was eating some. rare Scampi right in front of the Pantheon. Oh. You know, like, there was a beautiful restaurant known for Scampi right there. Wow. That's phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I was just recently in Mexico City at TOTIwakan. Ooh. Oh, my God. I want to go there. I was in Mexico City only once for the UFC, but it was in and out. It was one day, you know, two days.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Mexico City is a dope spot, man. I don't go places right. It's a lot of pollution, but there's a lot of... It's kind of like a Mexican New York. It's bigger. It is. It's huge. But bigger.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Bigger than New York, right? There's like 10 million people that live in the place they told us not to go to. They told me, listen. I was like, what the fuck is this massive area here? He's like, yo, don't go there. But 10 million people live there. What is the population of Mexico City? And I was getting that good lung capacity.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Right. If you're working out there. It's like, I think that's really high above sea level. It is 10,000. Is it 10? Mexico City's 10? Yeah. Boy, what an advantage you would.
Starting point is 00:06:29 have if you lived up there and then you go down the sea level you could fuck everybody up your cardio would be off the charts i couldn't believe myself yeah it that's real man i was just doing normal things i wasn't even working right exactly you just feel like you're like got more you're more blood in you because you do whoa low to mid 20 million people depending how you define its boundaries wow it's also unknown there's no census that i right it's also very it's it's lots of shanty situations as well oh of course yeah happened yesterday? Where? At Tia, Tijuana? No. What?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah. A shooting. Oh, I did see something like a gus, just a crazy person, right? Oh, shit. I believe so, yeah. Yeah, Tewa Khan, a popular tourist archaeological site outside of Mexico City. That's where you're not allowed to go. That's the Sun Temple. You're not allowed to walk out? You're not allowed to walk that, huh? Like what they're doing? Just to that area, and then you can't go up.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And so this guy just started shooting people? Yeah. Oh, wait, you can't go there. He's fucking, he's elevated. Yeah, that's the Sun Temple. there with the gun and there's a bunch of people laying down on the ground that were like Oh Jesus Christ Like he's like shooting right at him So what's crazy
Starting point is 00:07:37 I don't know why they just standing to them too I saw something on Google this morning He said something to them That motherfucker was hopping on one leg Did you see the hopping? Oh fuck Jesus Christ Yeah I didn't see that just going to go Check out some cool buildings
Starting point is 00:07:54 And someone shoots your fucking Achilles tendon off Bro that's that's one of the worst injuries you could probably sustain as an Achilles injury. Especially with a gunshot. Yeah. How many people died? I think one. So seven people were shot. One fatally shot.
Starting point is 00:08:13 The story of that area, that place is so insane. I went down this long rabbit hole because I'd read something that the Aztecs didn't build that and that they found it there. And they called it the place where gods were born. So then I went
Starting point is 00:08:30 this deep dive on the Aztec people and whoever was there before them. It's a total unknown. There's so much about that area, like the Olmecs. They don't, who the fuck were they? They don't know. They just got these giant stone heads that look like they're either Polynesian or African. They're fucking huge heads with a helmet on. And there's a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And no one knows who made it. No one knows what language they spoke. It's crazy. It's truly unbelievable. I know there's one native language that I worked in kitchens, my whole life, so they would always joke with me that they were speaking Totonaka. And Totonaka is definitely like a tribe from down there, and it's these mythical curing people, like these, the healers.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And we happen to actually, my wife knows a woman from the lineage of that family. It's all just crazy shit, but regardless of that, just the sheer fact of those buildings, I saw with my own eyes. That's not it. There's more underneath. just it's all surface area right right right that stuff goes it runs deep there's like cities on top
Starting point is 00:09:36 of cities on top they build them on old ones I mean it's just like you tile the floor you just leave that bullshit you just tile right over it well even when I was in Italy we were in Revello and there's this beautiful church up there you go for a little walk up the hill there's a beautiful church old church
Starting point is 00:09:52 like from the 1800s but it's built on top of a church that's like a thousand years old and there's a glass floor you could see through to the bottom with the original ruins. The same thing in Mexico City. They do that everywhere. There was these people making their pilgrimage where they crawl on the floor from
Starting point is 00:10:08 fucking hundreds of miles away in Jesus' name just to get to the church. Oh, wow. You have this, I don't know what that, there's some act of like, some humbling act where they crawl from hundreds of miles away to the church. And everyone come, I don't, millions of people come to this. It was fucking crazy. That would be a religious experience. It truly was.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I was just in there, we caught sermon, and I was just, I was getting fucking chills. Like, I, just from the way they spoke and the echo, the way that the acoustics in this room was. Wow. It was meant to give you chills. They know what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what they're doing. I don't want to go down the full, like, Charlie Kirk Rabbit, I hope I saw this video yesterday where he visited Jerusalem,
Starting point is 00:10:52 and they were taking him to this place underground where they mapped it out and used archaeology to find out that, like, I believe this spot here where they're at. Jesus, I think, preached or something. Huh. It's all, they found it underground and they just built the city on top of it. Like you're just saying. There's all these phenomena. But that is a common thing.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah, it's a common thing. Where they find this is where he was. No, no, I mean, it's a common thing where they take old sites and they just build a new sites on top of them. It's a really common thing. Well, it's kind of, it's fucked up, but it's also, like, paying homage? I guess kind of. Like keeping the same vibe?
Starting point is 00:11:32 Well, it's just like rebuilding a house. Yeah, you want to keep some bones. Yeah. It's good bones. It's like there's good bones there. Right. I don't think people probably had a really good sense of what history would mean 2,000 years later back then.
Starting point is 00:11:45 You know what I mean? Like when they were doing all this shit. They were busy. They left all kinds of chachiskees, man. Yeah. They left so many chachiskees. It's crazy. I feel stupid.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Like when am I, like I have to do the same thing. Same thing with my time. I have to constantly be, I have to leave cool shit. Because they left cool shit. Just because I feel it in me as well. Like I get, I get it. Right. I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But when I went to the museum down there, as you see all these things, it's like ornaments, like just literal chotchkes. Things you would see ornamentally placed by your grandmother on top of things or like on top of doily just for decorative purposes, but also everyday things and... Just everything meant something. Everything meant something to them and everything was done with intention. I don't think that this was all accidental for them.
Starting point is 00:12:38 They knew... Well, they knew who they were praising. All the little figurines for the fertile women were these women with big, humongous hips and asses and big breasts and stuff like that. These are the nurturing women. Then they showed the people who were supposed to be witch doctors. They fucking look like witch doctors all crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Three skulls, holding crazy fucking things. Right. Like they determined my view or these views of who people are. You understand? Like status-wise and species-wise. Like, this is a barber, this is a this. And your idea of what that person looks like, a nurturing woman is known to be a voluptuous woman.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Their ideas were there already. They built all their little chaskis and their little statuettes that they represented. represent these women very voluptuous. It would have been interesting to hear their version of the world. You know what I mean? Like, I wonder what they knew about the rest of the world. I wonder how much they knew, how much they knew about, like, Europe and Asia, and how much they knew about Africa.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Did they know anything about all that stuff? Like, when they were existing, like, whoever built, how do you say it, TOT-Wakan? Yeah, TOTWK. Whoever built that, like, how much did they know about the rest of the world? That's what's interesting, because we don't really know. We assume that they're all isolated. But more and more, as time goes on, they keep finding evidence of earlier and earlier seafaring people. I think they've pushed people in boats back to 60,000 years now.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Let's see if that's true. Put that in perplexity. What is the oldest known use of boats? Also speaking of that, that Noah, they think they found no-as- As long as there's been water, there's probably been something to- Flood on it. Noah's Ark scans. We brought that up before.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Oh, Mount Ararat in Turkey? But yeah, it's been going around Twitter the last couple of days. I think they did some new scans and found some stuff underneath it. Oh, shit. I want to see that. But what was the other question? The other question is the oldest boat. What do you guess?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Take a guess. Fucking, it's beyond my thought. It was like I don't even know a number. A number doesn't come to mind. Like, as long as there's been water. What the fuck does that mean? I don't even know. I wonder how long it took, like, early man to figure out the trees float.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And if you could figure out a tool. Once they figured out tools, they must have started making stuff. But when we see all these ancient, really, like, laser diagnostic fucking situations, they knew already. Yeah, they knew. That's different. That's different. Like Egypt, right? archaic humans are crossing substantial sea channels
Starting point is 00:15:22 long before our species homo sapiens appeared on the record whoa so implying intentional crossings as far back as roughly 450,000 years ago when you think about it what the fuck fucking polar bears and seals they jump up on a little broken piece of ice and they float that's crazy that's a boat
Starting point is 00:15:43 yeah that's a boat yeah that's what the polar bears are doing you're absolutely right put their hand in the water as a rudder, let's go this way, let's go that way. Yeah, they know what they're doing. They know how to tip them over, take the seals to pop off, and slide. It's years of evolutionary knowledge. Yeah. 450,000 years
Starting point is 00:16:00 is bananas, though. I thought it was like 60. Well, further up, it said somewhere between 60 and 130,000, but this article here says could be even more before that. Well, what was that most recent discovery of a human skull that backdates
Starting point is 00:16:16 human beings, not necessarily homo sapiens, but versions of humans back to a million years. Was it home-owned, not homo-no lady? It was a skull they had, but they knew testing or something. Right. And they said it's a million years old. So I don't think it's us, but I think it's, it co-the question is it coexisted with us. Yeah, it's about a million years old, so it says. So that might mean we're a million years old.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You want to see some shit or hear about some shit that I just read the other day that's nuts? You know how the thought is that there's Neanderthals and that human beings bred with Neanderthals and that's how the Neanderthal population went out? There's at least this one researcher who has a different opinion. And he was using genetics to point this out. He said that he believed that humans may have created Neanderthals so that. that humans bred with an even older human species, and Neanderthal is the offspring of the humans, Homo sapiens, and whatever this older thing is. It didn't create a superhuman, though.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, Deanatolls are kind of a superhuman. But mentally, they're known to be a little bit like Neanderthal, no? See, that's a statement that people say. I'd like to know, were they, is Neanderthal really? And intelligence or is it dumb? Yeah, we don't really know. I'm a fucking idiot. Like, I must be this.
Starting point is 00:17:50 They had bigger brains than us, though. Which is weird. But that might have been to have better musculature, better coordination. They were way stronger than us. Huge. They weren't big. They were like 5-7, 5-8. They were like my height.
Starting point is 00:18:03 The bone structure, right? Right. They're built completely different than us. They would tear us apart. They would tear us apart. They would tear us apart. They just rip your arms off. Like, they're insanely strong.
Starting point is 00:18:13 and their bones are much denser than ours. But says the gap between genetics and archaeology leaves us an unclear picture of where the Neanderthals originated. Calvinist Michael Marshall details a surprising new hypothesis that suggests they may have come from us. So this was the thing that I had read. Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Oh, you have to buy a, what is this, new scientist? We should probably get a subscription for them anyway. We use them a lot. They got good shit on there. So I think the idea is that they're, you know, they keep finding these other versions of humans. Like they found this thing called the Denisovin. And then they found this other one. What do they call the big-headed people?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Where are they finding these? Like, what zone? China is one of them. They found the big-headed guy they found in China. You know, they find them all over the world, man. They find these bones that are just weird. You got to think of how few human bones are going to. to make it from people that are alive right now. So few of us are ever going to become fossils.
Starting point is 00:19:16 So we're putting together a version of the history that's completely incomplete as far as the evidence is concerned. There's just not enough evidence of like bones. If we had, like look, if everybody who ever lived died and left their bones and then future people could study their bones forever, boy, we would know so much more. We would know so much more. There'd be bones everywhere, but we would know so much more about how things work. French did something with them. Fucking catacombs, put them on the ground, build something, make it decorative. This episode is brought to you by Visible.
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Starting point is 00:20:31 Switch today at Visible.com. Terms apply. Limited time offers subject to change. See Visible.com for plan features and network management details. The decorative. Noah's Ark Mystery deepens as a researcher blows lid on strange rock formation in Turkey. So this rock formation is on Mount Ararat. That's what it looks like? This thing here in the middle. Yeah. And they said it's the same.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Wait a minute. That's not AI? Nope. Is this all LiDAR? So this is a picture. Bro, that's crazy. That's the actual image? I'll see the other one's there. God, that looks like what somebody would send me in in a Facebook group chat. They found, honestly. I'm like, right.
Starting point is 00:21:16 This shit right here, if it's not AI, if it's AI, it should say it. Right. If it's not AI, God, it looks like a boat. So look, I'm not a geologist or someone who's a landscape expert, but that's a very unusual feature. What are the odds that something looks exactly like a boat? So then underneath it, they scanned it. And then they're saying that these potentially are hallways or... I mean, that's the shape of a boat.
Starting point is 00:21:44 That's a fucking boat. Oh, so there's structure inside of it? Well, the biggest issue is that this is on the side of a mountain. So that's not where the ocean is. Bro, the great flood. It's 6,500 feet above sea level, it says. So if you're going to go with the story of the flood, then you'd have to say that we don't know exactly when the flood happened because this would be petrified wood or something
Starting point is 00:22:10 and I read it takes somewhere between thousands and millions of years to get petrified wood so we'd have to be on the lower end of the thousands because it's probably not millions of years and then tectonic plates would have had to lift it all the way up here to... No, not necessarily if the flood receded when the water was that high.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, if it flooded the entire planet... Right, but then the question would be where's all that water? Yeah, I don't think it flooded the entire planet. All kinds of strange phenomenon push things towards the surface. Yeah. This could be anything.
Starting point is 00:22:40 It could be anything, but boy, it looks like the shape of a boat. Like, if it was down below, the water could definitely push. Like, everything could be pushed as long as that's like nestled in there. I think maybe it was good wood. The universe fucking with us. I think it's part of the simulation. Part of the simulation is the universe fucks with us. And the universe shows you some things that shouldn't be real by your version of what
Starting point is 00:23:06 is and isn't true. AI. Well, that's one. That's pretty much what the fuck. No, that's happening. That's the explanation of it. Yeah, that is. But then there's stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:23:16 If this isn't AI, it's almost like the universe is AI. Looks like a big abalone. It's not real. Whoa. So is that line up with the actual biblical? So that's where like this is even five years ago that this picture on the screen was taken. So I think that they're doing, whether or not they're taking some liberties and what the descriptions are or not, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I don't know. Boy, it certainly is a weird shape. This is Noah's Ark right here, this thing? Yeah. It looks like a fucking riverboat. Well, that's what it was. It looks like we're playing the pinnuckle on the riverboat there on that one. Well, he had to get all their animals in there, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:50 That doesn't seem like that would be the one. What did you think it looked like? I don't know. Like some fucking mega yacht. I don't know. A bunch of holes and what's the things? The staffs and the holes. Listen, I think the story of the floods are real stories.
Starting point is 00:24:06 story because it existed too many cultures. Water is very unexplainable. Water has no enemy. And tsunamis. Sunamis fucking happened, dude. And if they happened and you were in that area, you would think it's the end of the world. Because you don't have contact with people in Europe. You don't have contact. You don't have contact.
Starting point is 00:24:24 So wherever you are is an apocalypse. The Great Flood. You think it's the whole world's gone. I don't know if there's anything specific about the Acacia Wood, but I remember looking this up last week, and it very specifically said Acacia Wood was used to make the I'll tell you this. Acacia honey is fucking unbelievably delicious. Well, the reason he's bringing that up is Acacia is also rich in DMT, and that's these scientists. No wonder I like it.
Starting point is 00:24:46 There you go, Doc. These researchers out of Jerusalem think that that's what Moses' burning bush was. So where Moses saw God saw God as a burning bush, that's what they think that means. They were burning the acacia bush. He was hitting the deems. He was hitting the deems. He was hitting the deems. He was hitting the deems. He probably did.
Starting point is 00:25:06 did talk to God. God probably did have some good messages for humanity in the early days when we were basically just savages, wild fucking creatures with stone tools. Man, we've come a long way. I mean, human beings are still trying to figure it out. Obviously, we're in the middle of three fucking wars going on in the world, but we're doing better, I think. Yeah. I think we're doing better. We're doing better in day-to-day stuff, day-to-day interactions with people. people are definitely for the most part better. I've been, you know, I feel like, I just feel like we're out of place where everyone's going to either, they're going to come together or we're going to just fucking totally
Starting point is 00:25:47 rip our fucking heads off. Right. My fear is that a lot of chaos is going to happen and they're going to use that as an excuse to have AI run everything. And that's where things get really fucking weird. That's where creativity dissolves, freedom dissolves, you become some, you become some little biological time card. Bro, the other day,
Starting point is 00:26:10 I fucking, I posted a picture of a frog that I AI generated just because I wasn't able to get the frog to do what the fuck I wanted to do in real life. Like, I want the frog holding frog popsicles. He was being difficult,
Starting point is 00:26:26 so I had to fucking use another guy. And I, these, everyone was blasting me like, yo, not you, not you. I can't believe you used AI, like, yo, you're, What? People were fucking flipping out on me. So people are upset that you're using...
Starting point is 00:26:39 I generated a picture of a frog. Who is mad at you for this? Whoever is on my Instagram. Huh. And my fans and the people who are, you know, just hating on AI. I get the idea of like using it in a, you know, in a conniving way or in a, you know... But it was a picture of a fucking frog. There it is.
Starting point is 00:27:05 That's fucking. good. And I said that that was going to be my album cover, but then... Why is that bad? They were like, yo, you're taking away opportunities from other artists. Well, let me just clear this up. I wouldn't have hired you no matter what because I do all my artwork anyway. There was no job to be taken away.
Starting point is 00:27:27 So let's just, if that's the argument, you could throw that one out. This is just tools. It's good old fun. Listen, I don't think... This is photo. Photoshop pretty much. Yeah, look, it's beautiful. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:27:39 It's very cool looking. But then I did. I get what people are saying. I get it to. I get it. After it was explained to me by a younger generation of mine. I get you should hire artists to make stuff. But do you know how long it take an artist to make that?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Unless the artist is doing exactly what you're doing? But I get that, but I wouldn't have hired them in the first place because I do all the artwork on my own. Everything comes from me. So it's not a job loss, no matter what. No, it wasn't a job loss, no matter what. And I get the, I get the, I get the, I wouldn't have hired them. idea of it. I get the idea.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Giggles, you know, like it's fucking whack that that's what people are worried about. I don't think, I think it's just a bunch of people looking for things to complain about A. And then there's also like a sentiment in the air, which is that AI is coming for everybody's job. So anytime someone uses it AI that could have been used by people, there's a certain percentage of people that are going to kind of rightly be upset. I get it. But you're not going to stop it.
Starting point is 00:28:32 This is the thing. That fucking, that wave is. 2,000 feet high and it's moving 100 miles an hour and you're not going to stop it. You're not going to stop it. This is just what AI is. I didn't realize the severity. I mean, I guess I do now, but. Bro, it's alive.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It's fucked. It's fucked, for sure. These things are alive. And they're going to be able to do everything for you. I don't usually use any of those things. I'm pretty, you know, Neanderthal when it comes to this type of thing. Yeah. So the thing about the Neanderthals is they don't know if they were dumb.
Starting point is 00:29:05 So they used to think that they were really stupid And then they realized that they probably had language And they probably had tools And they probably had a sophisticated society And they buried their young And maybe we just assume because they're brutish And strong that they were stupid But their brains are bigger than our brains
Starting point is 00:29:24 They might not have been dumb In the end of though They have big eyeballs too Looks are deceiving You think that we know Some schlub And here I come fucking He missed a...
Starting point is 00:29:35 I never seen you with the base. Oh, my God. I did it this morning. You can swing that motherfucker, dude. It's very impressive. It's a hard thing to do. And I got up to like 88 pounds on that bitch, which is ridiculous. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I started doing this new kettlebell exercise. You do like an eight in the air with a kettlebell. We start it like this and you go all the way up and down like that. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. And over around your head. Woo! Serious deal. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Your core, you're lower. You don't realize like how weak that shit is in those weird movements to try something like that. That's why the kettlebells are the best things. Kettlebells, the clubs, the mace. Awkward stuff. Awkward. I love all that stuff. All the sandbag work.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm still doing that every day. Since I was here last, I know it doesn't seem it, but I've lost like 20 pounds. Congratulations. Well, I got up to 300 again. Damn, dog. Now I'm back down to 265. I know you can't see it, but I'm kind of jacked. Well, you're very thick.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I'm jacked. I'm jacked. Jacked. Yeah. You're very like, you're a bull. I know, man. But I'm trying to be a...
Starting point is 00:30:40 You put the work in. It's just, but the problem is you also work with food, delicious food. I stopped eating so much pasta. Did you? I did. So much is a funny way of saying it. I have not eating so much pasta. By whose definition is so much?
Starting point is 00:30:53 I've cut it out a lot. Yeah. I'm trying to dial it in heavily. I'm trying to really dial it in. I need... This is my life. It's all about being dialed in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I can't let it go. Because once I let it go, it's going. I hear you. It's going. Yeah, I know. It's hard. Once you get that fucking, those carbs, once you get that pizza and that pasta rolling.
Starting point is 00:31:17 You know what? Once I stopped, I don't even fucking need that shit right now. I don't even crave it. That's not, I'm not really interested in that. A simple piece of toasted whole wheat bread does it for me. Just jam that. I don't need pizza. I've eaten enough pizza in my life for fucking 45 children.
Starting point is 00:31:34 What's it? 45 children's lifetimes Couldn't equate the amount of pizza I've eaten. That's hilarious. So, I mean, I feel like I've eaten enough of everything that I've needed to. Now it's time to just fuel. It's all about the fuel. You're dialing in.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I'm working out with, like, serious dudes that are, like, jacked out of control. And I'm the only one that's rounded. Do you have a trainer that you work with? No, no, no. I just train with dudes who train every day. Oh, okay. One dude's an I have BB Pro. Oh, bodybuilders.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Bodybuilders. But I'm trying to do a little bit of that. I introduce my stuff, you know. No one could really do the mace and because that takes a long time to, like, perfect that work. And everyone's way too tight. Right. So I do that on my own. I do, like, three days of that with the kettlebells.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And I do normal shit. Deadlift. My knees are little fuck, so I'm doing zurchers. Zerchers is my favorite squad anyway. Churchers are great. It's my favorite. It's really good for grappling and, you know, Just for elevating your testosterone.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It's known to be like one of the... It's definitely like a jujitsu. Every MMA fighter should be doing that. Yeah, it's big for wrestlers, the ability to take people down and also stuff takedowns at the same sort of strength. That thrust. Yeah. It's phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's my favorite squat. Yeah. It's great. The Dutch shoulder stuff that you're doing, all that made stuff, you must have like really strong shoulders. I bet your shoulders never fuck with you. Not anymore because I healed myself with the Anit motherfucking club. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Like literally John Wolf helped me. I would just hit him up like, yo. Those things are great. It's great just because most of the time when you're lifting, you're just picking stuff up. Yeah. You know, you're doing bench press. With this, like you're swinging it over your head and you're pausing out in front, swinging it overhead. Think about when you're doing jihadistula.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You get your hand, your arm put over there and you have that strength needs. It's never in like bench press position. Never. You're never like pushing perfectly. You're always in like weird. Mm-hmm. That's why yoga is really good for jihis. I've been trying to do a little bit more of everything.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yoga is so good for you, man. Pilates, yoga. Pilates is surprisingly hard. Oh, it's one of the hardest things I've ever done. Probably she fucking put the goddamn things on my ankles. I was laying on my back doing scissors. Don't tell anybody. But yeah, I was next to my wife.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Tighten up that man pussy. Bro, my man pussy was like fucking that. It was like rock solid. And I told you, I was like, yo, this hurts my asshole. Like, you're fucking literally making it. me work out a crazy muscle. And she's like, yep, yep, you feel it, right? You gotta go home with a sore asshole.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Ow! You're sitting on the bowl, ow. You gotta wear the donut. You gotta sit on the cushion. Oh, no. Remember those? People used to have those at their house. On the seat?
Starting point is 00:34:21 Oh, man. On the toilet seat? Yeah. That one that when you hit it, you go, yeah, remember that way? Pink. Grandma pink. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I just remember the smell of old ass. coming of a toilet like a grandma's ass or a grandfather's ass. Yeah, old... I remember my father's shit smell. Was different? Yeah, you'd smell. Always would throw a cigarette in the toilet after it, so it smelled like a shitty cigarette.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That was back in the day where everybody smoked in the house. Oh my God, we used to have a ring. He would sit and there was a ring up there from the Rothman Blues. What's a Rothman blue? It was a... Yeah, English cigarette. Wow. There's more to life than finding the perfect car.
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Starting point is 00:36:06 Used to be able to buy cigarettes at a hospital. Oh, yeah. I've purchased them at hospitals with the thing. In bed. When the guy's in bed. Or you could buy them in, like they would come around, like a six-year-old kid would come around with the thing? Like a lady would come by with like a box of different kinds of cigarettes in it.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And the guy was like picking out cigarettes that he can have while he's in his hospital back. Damn. Those are the days. See you can find one of the pictures. Those are the days. I remember the pull machine was always my favorite when I got sent to the store to go do this, do that. Yeah, look at this. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:35 This has to be an ad, right? Is it an ad? That's the golden days. Or maybe it's a newspaper photograph or something like that? Was that Paul Mall? Nothing. 1950s cigarettes were marketing as being good for you. Look at the nurse is lighten this guy's cigarette.
Starting point is 00:36:51 That's crazy. Well, he doesn't look sick. His hair is done nicely. So when did people in a... We looked up this who figured out the first cigarette, didn't we? The same guy, different nurse. Oh, this is all bullshit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Maybe it's just one guy had a freaking... nurse. She just reminds me of why. Why is America so medicated? Why are we just so fucking medicated on everything? Because it works. Does it? I mean, it doesn't do what you want
Starting point is 00:37:20 it to do, but as far as, like, mental medications. That shit works? There's a lot of stuff that works. Sure. Prozac has a legitimate effect on people. They get accustomed to it. Good or bad. Adderall. Depends on who. It depends on the dose. You know, it's like if you want to say good or bad,
Starting point is 00:37:36 I know a lot of people that are very successful that use Adderall. I don't necessarily know if it's bad. I think it depends on who you are, whether or not you can just use it when you need it, like to write or something like that. I know journalists that use it. But if it's one of those things that you're addicted to, like benzodiazepine, you know, like. Michael Jackson? Well, no. That was the Michael Jackson one?
Starting point is 00:38:02 No, that was the Latin. He, well, he died from being sedated. He died from propophil. Oh, he was just, and then pumped with other stuff. I don't think he could sleep at night. I think he was just so mentally ill. That's fucked. That guy was too famous, man.
Starting point is 00:38:20 There is a level of too famous. Wait, it's deep. Yeah, and he also had a lot. Everyone on earth knows who Michael Jackson is. Yeah. I don't think there's anyone who doesn't know who Michael Jackson is. Even now. If you're born now, you know who he is.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. I mean, he was so famous that even after all the sexual allegations, all of his music still played on the radio. No one gives a fuck. It was so good. He's the only one, no one cares. Right. Look, R. Kelly's stuff, you barely hear it anymore. And I'm not going to say anything. Please don't. I will not. He's a disgrace. I mean, it's disgraceful, but his music was...
Starting point is 00:38:58 Phenomenal. It was like, that changed motherfucker is the whole vibe of R&B. like disgusting, unbelievable, nasty, disgraceful things. Right, but if you separate the artist from the art. And that's the fucking worst thing. You can't do that. You cannot say that. It comes as a whole package.
Starting point is 00:39:15 But my question is, how many of those guys were like that way back in the day? You know what I mean? Probably a lot. A large amount. You see the sickness. I don't understand why motherfuckers get a little bit of money and start doing weirdo shit. Like, I like the garden. Like island shit?
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah. Like, I like gardening. I like stone masonry. I like working out and cooking. Right. But why? I'll tell you why. I'm obviously not on that level,
Starting point is 00:39:44 but I don't see my mentality changing so far off where I'm fucking going to the island, you know? No. It's never going to happen. It's bizarre a shit. But even if there was a new island. But the thing is, you made money by doing what you love.
Starting point is 00:39:57 That's a very different kind of money. These people are just trying to make money. So when you're just trying to make money, I mean, it's all about experiences and items that you possess. So you want to buy your own island, you want a jet, what else you want? You want a Ferrari, you want a bunch of shit. Stings, things. You want things, and you keep getting more things.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And you want to do things that you're not supposed to do. Like you want to eat an endangered species. You know? There's like a restaurant in China. They'll serve you tiger. They'll serve you guerrilla. Like whatever you want to eat. Endangered species.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I mean, I've seen things. I don't know if this is true, but there was a story that was written about this place where you could go in China. And this is a story, see if you can find it. There's a story about, like, it's one of those things where it's like a gather. It's not like a restaurant. It's a gathering. It's a gathering that happens like once every year or something like that.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And they go and they would eat endangered species. Which is fucking crazy. I know my- But that's a billionaire, crazy person money thing. Like, we're going to go eat a tiger. You know what I mean? It's like, fucking ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:58 It's weird. I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. I don't even like to hurt anything. I don't... Right, but that's because you're not that kind of a rich guy. Yeah. You're a guy who made a bunch of money just by being himself.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And that's a totally different enterprise than someone is just trying to make a bunch of money. The people that are just trying to make a bunch of money, they're never happy. You're never satisfied. Yeah. Yeah, they are, I mean, I don't know where anybody comes from, but I live in two fucking bedroom apartment in my entire life
Starting point is 00:41:27 up until recently. Still might, I still do. Here it is. Crackdown on menu for China's animal eaters From 2014 though So they made a rule Kind of riblet meetings that Look at those fucking striations
Starting point is 00:41:39 Oh no wonder porcupine They changed the law because of it Well to I mean I don't know because of it But that's why it's probably not talked about As much anymore The diners of southern China Have long had a reputation for exotic tastes
Starting point is 00:41:55 With locals sometimes boasting They will eat anything with four legs Except a table L-O-L. Fucking jokes. So pangolin. So panglin's endangered, right? Are they endangered?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Wasn't that one of the things that they thought was the wet market where? On top it says they had endangered tortoises and snakes and porcupines and cages. And imagine you're so nasty you want to eat an endangered snake? Eating a snake alone is gross. But you're so nasty you want to eat an endangered snake? I've had snake soup. I was in Japan and I had. fucking a good snake soup it was smoked
Starting point is 00:42:33 Was it good? It tasted like beef Really? It did it was supposed to be You know What kind of snake was it? Make you very versatile Oh versatile I wish the word Vero Versatile as well Right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:48 It was a black snake of course Oh black snake Was it a poisonous snake? Dad I'm not sure But there was a bunch It was like this was a Michelin Star restaurant Two Michelin Star, and of course, it was like French, Japanese creations and fucking, quite endangered. Really? As endangered as I could get.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Endangered? A little turtle, a little snake. But some turtles are not endangered. I know, but I don't even like to do it. It just turns me off. It turns. Dude, I used to have turtles as pets. I used to have turtles.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And at one point in time, I had piranhas. turtles are way more psychotic than piranhas when I would feed my turtles I'd feed my turtles goldfish and they'd swim around and grab the goldfish and just bite them in half it was crazy to watch I got those powerful joel and I'm looking at them
Starting point is 00:43:45 like of course you're a little dinosaur just look at you you look like a dinosaur you have this crazy stegosaurus shell over your back and you're swimming through the water some neck comes out like that dude they were super aggressive see if you can find video
Starting point is 00:43:59 of turtles fucking up goldfish. What about those big motherfuckers though? Like the big snappers. Oh yeah. Those are like Bowser. Yeah, have you ever seen one in real life? I've seen the big seat, like the big tortoise in Hawaii, but I've never seen a big snapping one. I saw it like a medium one, not a real big one, but they look so freaky.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Their fucking teeth or their neck. That beak thing, that mouth. Fucking jacked up neck too. Yeah. Big fucking huge. Big fucking huge clamp down neck. There's one different type. What is that one really crazy looking snapping turtle?
Starting point is 00:44:38 Is it a gar snapping turtle? I think it is. I've never seen this one before. Whoa! What the fuck is that? Amata Mata T turtle? Whoa. What the fuck kind of head is that?
Starting point is 00:44:49 It's a triangle head. Yeah, that's a UFO. With a weird nose. That's weird. I've never seen that. It's eating a goldfish too? There you go. Oh, he just swallowed.
Starting point is 00:44:59 it whole. What a weird looking creature. If you told me yesterday that this didn't exist, I would have believed you. If you told me yesterday, this is AI. What's the reasoning that a lot of these species go flat heads? Hmm. Good question. Mixing the bottom of the... Because you've slipped right into the shell, I'm sure. Yeah, I guess so. I'm sure you fit better in the shell. But you go hammerhead and heads like that and fucking stingrays and shit just turns flat, flounder. Right, that's a weird one Two eyeballs on one side What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:45:33 So this is a very timid Turtle eating the goldfish He's just The ones that I had They swam after the goldfish And grabbed them Look at this fucking thing Whoa
Starting point is 00:45:43 Alligator snapping turtle Yeah that's the one The alligator This one is the one that turns into fucking Donatello Look at the face on that fucker She gets tonged on there Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:53 Oh so its tongue looks like a goldfish A little worm So it tricks them Yeah Come get some. Look. Oh, snap. Nature's so evil.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It gave me a lure in my mouth. Nature has no mercy, man. Nope. No mercy. No mercy. We were talking about smoking. I saw this today, that UK has voted to ban anyone born after 2008 to be banned from smoking. What?
Starting point is 00:46:20 It hasn't passed. It has to. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm going to light up a cigar. It says a... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 That's a crazy one. I thought it was kind of fake when I saw it, but I looked it up. It's on, there's articles about it. It's a draft law, they say, which doesn't mean it's an actual law yet, I think. I'm opening up a fresh box for them. Fuck you. That's crazy. But that's just, we were talking about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:46:46 They love having their fucking thumb on you. It's government. It's like when they expand government, they got to give government something to do. So what do they do? They come up with more rules and regulations. And they come up with more people. enforce those rules and regulations. Even if they don't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Pass this, past that. I got a fucking... Everyone has an idea. Every new politician has their ideas. And they all want to fucking control you. That's what they want to do. More than anything, they want to control you. That's their favorite sport.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Their favorite sport is telling you what to do. I just had a beautiful dinner with our mayor of New York, Mom Dani. How is he? Do you like him? He was... He's 34 years old, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I know. I've never thought that I'd be sitting at a table with a mayor who's younger than me and knows about fucking rap. And, like... Didn't he rap for a while? I don't acknowledge that. That's hilarious. No, but he's, you know, he's a very nice guy, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:42 He had a nice dinner. I didn't speak politics. I'm not really one of those guys. We just talked shit. Oh, okay. He was on flagrant. What the fuck do I know? I don't know shit.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Exactly. So... I don't even act like I do. I don't even act like I do. The most concerned is who's financing him. What is their agenda? What are they trying to get him to? do because it's always money it's always about money people are discovering in
Starting point is 00:48:02 New York City Mondani's oh that's a fucking crazy picture right he's rapping with an apron on what's that about mr. Cardam yeah okay it's a wild one shame the guy for his mistakes of the past let's just you know he's just doing some wild stuff like with taxes and things like he's trying to tax these billionaires I saw that what I'd like him to do is you sure why not so what I'd like him to do what I'm What I'd like him to do is fucking help alleviate... Thank you, Signor. Let me take the top off of it for you.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Help alleviate taxes for people who are born and raised New Yorkers. I shouldn't have to pay for everyone else's bullshit. Right. At least give me a little break. Not just that, but... They should be responsible with where the tax dollars go. So before asking you for more taxes, clean up all the fraud. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:48:50 That's not a fucking big request. That's like a pretty simple thing to ask for. But nobody says that. All they ever say is we need a taxi more. This year was a mess. He came into Oliver's when it was a shit storm of literal horrible weather. And the fucking city was an honest garbage hole. It was a shit mess.
Starting point is 00:49:11 You got real bad with snow, right? Fucking seven feet high piles of garbage, like disgrace. Now, why was that? Because, I don't know. I would say the union rep wasn't allowing the workers to fucking go and clean shit. I love your honesty When they're at odds I don't know
Starting point is 00:49:30 I'd like to get to the bottom of this Yeah I don't know either You know when they're at odds they're at odds Well so there was a union strike They don't allow They don't allow any of the sanitation people To move a muscle unless their union rep says It's okay
Starting point is 00:49:46 You go and sit in the fucking truck and take a nap Until we tell you to move Right That's always a I'm with them Listen I'm with them Because at all the fraud that's existing in that city, all the waste that they've showed, that is one thing you should fucking pay people for because the job sucks. Okay?
Starting point is 00:50:05 And it's super necessary. No, it's the most necessary job. Yeah. Super necessary. You fucking have to pick up the garbage, God damn it. Pay those fucking people. I mean, are they asking for unreasonable amounts when you find out how much money you spent on the fucking homeless situation and never got better at all? Who's, what are they getting?
Starting point is 00:50:23 I bet they're getting paid more than the garbage people. I'm sure, but they get good pension. Everyone works for a pension. It's all for security. Pension is fucking dental. How many times are you going to do dental? Yeah, but you should also get paid. If you're fucking, if you're moving garbage, you should get paid well, period.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And for people who go, oh, it's an unskilled job. That's a backbreaking job. You're slinging around bags all day and picking up cans and yanking on levers. Far from unskilled. Yeah. You try and drive that fucking truck. It's also dangerous. You're hanging off the back of the truck sometimes.
Starting point is 00:50:58 You're out there in the weather. It's fucking hard. You can hurt your back. It's fucking hard. It's a hard job. They should get paid well. And anybody doesn't think that is a cunt. You should definitely be paid well.
Starting point is 00:51:12 That's the thing about this world. Everybody's greedy. They want it all for themselves. There's one thing they're doing I just found online. They're adding these giant bins, which maybe is better than piles. But my boy They're always adding these fucking bins Yeah but the problem with that is
Starting point is 00:51:28 God damn Eric Adams made you buy a $100 Garbage can for your house back in the day From his cousin This is what I was told From my man in Middle Village How much? $100. My boy Connie Gorge just told me
Starting point is 00:51:39 $100 You have to buy a fucking new garbage can For your house one way or another No matter why from Eric Adams' cousin Oh really? Show that again Jamie? $100. So that actually makes more sense
Starting point is 00:51:53 though, that they're doing this big? Because that also probably... The problem is if it does keep the rats out, then one of the rats is going to eat. Then you're going to have a bigger rat problem. New York's got a fucking giant rat problem. I've been seeing less lately. Because they're hiding.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah, I've been seeing less. Well, it's about to be summertime, so they're going to come out. Once again, if they pick the fucking garbage up, there'll be less rat. Yeah, but... If they stop doing all the construction... I mean, that's what breeds these rats
Starting point is 00:52:21 that come out. For sure. digging these fucks up. You're disturbing their house. Yeah, but they rely on people to eat. The thing is it's a completely coexisting like the
Starting point is 00:52:34 monkeys in the Philippines. It's an ecosystem. The rats and the people are an ecosystem because the rats eat human garbage and they live piled up around humans for a reason so they could eat our garbage. And during the pandemic it was a real fucking problem because no one was going to restaurants for a while. So the rats were everywhere.
Starting point is 00:52:51 They're freaking out. It was fucked up. They're eating each other. Rats do eat each other. I had a rat eat, well, a bunch of rats, ate a dead rat in my garage once. Yeah, he died. Big fat rat, too.
Starting point is 00:53:04 He died. I heard the trap go off, but it was like 10 o'clock at 9. I was like, fuck it, I'll deal with it in the morning. I got up in the morning. There was nothing left but its tail. There was like some skin, the feet and the tail. They ate his entire body.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah, now there was a whole, like, garage full like one of those I don't know like a storage space but in the street you just heard them fucking the gate would be knocking back and forth like they're having a goddamn underground fucking strike force in there
Starting point is 00:53:33 that's why when people get upset about coyotes listen bro I heard them recently you need them bro the fucking pack of coyotes howling and screaming during feeding in New York City well upstate they do it in New York City too They find them in the central park.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yeah, like an hour and a half away. It was really something else. Oh, yeah. They had a lot of them up there. But you need them. Otherwise, you're going to have rats everywhere. Like, there's a balance to all this shit. Just don't leave your cat outside.
Starting point is 00:54:01 No. I saw a fucking owl like this outside. Really? Fucking in the daytime. Let me reset this. What is this? Rats hide it. I think this was...
Starting point is 00:54:10 Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. They hiding your engine. Bro, rat ate my fucking boy's BMW engine. All the wiring. Oh. Oh, my God. They chewed up all the insulation.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Oh. Well, that's just... That's not dead rats, right? What is that? It's not alive ones. Isn't that the stuff, though? I think that's the stuff of the ceiling. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I think it's the insulation above the roof of the... All right. Above the engine. It's just they nested in this guy's place. Yeah, this says that the trash bins are going to get rid of a lot of the... How the fuck is... Supposedly. The thing is, didn't we figure out that the number of rats in New York City is pretty similar
Starting point is 00:54:58 to the number of people? I would probably say it out. It out, does it? They don't really know. They're so small. They don't really know. But someone had told me that the biomass of rats was the same as the biomass of people in New York City, meaning the weight.
Starting point is 00:55:13 But we looked that up and that doesn't seem to be true. But if it's true, it takes much more to make up one human beings. So there's going to be ten times more. Sometimes people read things or write things down and it's just not accurate. Because like there are a lot of cases where small things have a crazy biomass. Like I think the biomass of ants is similar to the biomass of human beings on Earth. Wow. Find out that's true.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Put that into perplexity. You ever see the ants that had that little honey butt, have a little ball of honey on their ass? Oh, I have seen that. What's that for? It's a taste. Come get some. Come get some. Give me that fucking ass.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Imagine if ladies started having that. That's the new thing. Oh my God, I eat so much ass. No nose ring. Now they just have a honey pot on their ass. That's how you capture me. Look at this. Oh, ants on earth together have about 20% of the biomass of all humans when measured as dry carbon mass.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Okay. What about insects in general? Maybe that's where they fucked up. Do insect what is the biomass of all insects compared to the biomass of people? What do you typing this in? What is this? Our lovely AI sponsor, perplexity. Oh, beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 On a global scale, total biomass of all insects is several times larger than human biomass. Wow. Fuck that. And all this is Smithsonian. Bugs. I love fucking bugs. Do you? I love bugs.
Starting point is 00:56:47 We're lucky they're little. I know, you're right. There's a real, like, there's a generous amount of species up where I'm at, and I really enjoy them recently. You can't be upset at them because if the area was unhealthy, they wouldn't be there. Well, you're in upstate? Yeah. Upstate's beautiful, but check yourself for ticks. Oh, I do all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:08 All the time. Upstate's got a lot of lime. My boy got bit by a tick recently. He caught it three days later. He already had it, but he's good now. Did he go and immediately get the antibiotics? Yeah. That's what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:57:19 When you get that Lyme disease, you got to get it. Where do you think they usually capture you? Like around the crevasses? Yeah, like your legs, your ankles, where they climb up on your pants. But as long as they don't go up in the fucking Netherlands. The desert region. That would suck. But I think it's a systemic issue more than it is the initial bite.
Starting point is 00:57:36 The bite, though, to know that if you got Lyme disease, a couple days after the infection, starts getting like a bull's eye around it. And that to a lot of people is the big sign that you've got. Lyme disease, but sometimes when they get to the doctor, that circle's gone, and the doctor doesn't believe him. I've had this happen to a friend of mine, who's a very smart guy, and him and his son both got Lyme disease, and he couldn't get the fucking doctor to believe that it was Lyme disease until his kid started getting, what's that mouth thing, Guillem Barr?
Starting point is 00:58:08 How do you say that? Julian Bar syndrome? Is that what he said Julian? Julian Bar syndrome? When it was, like, half your face gets paralyzed. Oh, fucking. Bell's Palsy. Right, but there's a name for it.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I think it's, Gien Bar is very similar because I knew a guy who had that and it was the same thing and he was diagnosed with Gien Bar. Does it go back or is it? Yeah, he went back. Dice Clay had it for a while. Really? Yeah, Dice Clay had half of his face and he was going on stage with it.
Starting point is 00:58:39 He didn't give a fuck. Gien Bar syndrome, facial weakness or paralysis often cost. With Dice? He talked about it. He brought it up. It was pretty obvious. That's what I'm saying. He was just fucking told like that.
Starting point is 00:58:49 It was pretty obvious. Like half his face was like this. It was crazy. Half his face just wouldn't move. Fuck. You know? Not good. If fucking shit happens, man.
Starting point is 00:59:01 You got to just deal with things as they come. You can't really like, who the fuck knows what this world is about and why things happen, bro? I'm just saying, be careful of ticks. Yeah. Because those bitches, they're trying to get you. And those little fuckers, a large percentage of them in the East Coast carry Lyme disease.
Starting point is 00:59:17 For sure. For sure. Yeah. The disease little pricks. I spray myself with a nice geranium spray. Geranium? Yeah. There's an elixir.
Starting point is 00:59:27 There's like a natural lavender, geranium oil, all kinds of shit that you spray on yourself. Are you sure that doesn't make them want to bite you more? No, no, it repels. For sure? It brings other things, but it takes those guys away. It brings in ankle bracelets? Yeah, my God, ankle bracelets and fucking and brahmable nose ring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:47 When I was in Mexico City, I was dressed. I bought a fucking jade, like Yade. It's from over there, brought a jade necklace that was a little bit too tight. So it looked like a choker. Like a dog? My boy told me I looked like I had my nipple pierced in the picture that I showed him. Like you're a bear. I looked like a fucking bear.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I had circular glasses, a scruff. You could see a little bit of this, scruff. Two, two chokers. This is what I'm saying. you act different on vacation. Right. Two out a fucking amber choker and a jade choker. You would be killing it in the bear community.
Starting point is 01:00:25 If you ever want to switch teams, you would dominate the bear community. Right? Just do it for fun. Like, fuck it. We'll fuck some guys up. What were we just asking? What was the question?
Starting point is 01:00:39 You didn't. I thought I had a question. I forgot. You got all off track with that comment. Yeah. It's Bear talk. Bear talk always gets me. Bear talk 101.
Starting point is 01:00:48 What were we just talking? talking about before that though? Bugs. Right. Bugs, oh, tics, Lyme disease. Guyanbar. There's another one that's out now. There's another disease that's out that people are getting called Alpha-Gal and it's from a tick called the Lone Star Tick and it makes you allergic to red meat. That's what that one you cannot get my friend. No, that's fucked up. I don't want that. It's not for you. No. That would ruin everything in your life. I mean so many fucking boning fillets It's been crazy. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I need those gains. There's no other gains like that, right? Bison. I've been eating a lot of like gains things, I guess. My diet is a... Yeah, wild game is the best for that. Sweet potatoes and gain. There you go.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Sweet potatoes, phenomenal. That's what I, I exchanged the pasta for the sweet potato. Do you eat rice? A little bit. A touch. A touch. Is that no good? Conflicting things.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I like it. White rice. There's a lot of things that I eat that I like. I just eat them because I like it. Like when I'm eating spaghetti, I'm under no illusion. Yeah, now you know what you're eating. I know what I'm doing. I'm not under an illusion.
Starting point is 01:01:58 You like a good pasta. I know that. I do. Evan Funk pasta, right? Oh, yeah. I know you like a good Evan Funk pasta, right? That dude can cook. I had him on my show early on, like before all his success and just kicked it off.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I loved his. He's a fucking trip. He's the man. And he is a fishinato. Yeah. There's another guy, Stefan Setchi in New York. Oh my God. Stefano Setschi is another sicko.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Make amazing our Matarano. You know, it's all about the wooden dow. That's how they make the pasta. It's all old style. Nothing extruded all with the thing. Yeah. With the matarano. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Evans places you could watch them make the pasta. You know, like, he's got Mother Wolf. He's got funk. Is it funky or funk? How do you pronounce that? I have no idea. I call him funk. It's like Terry Funk.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Right. Probably Funk. I thought he was Terry Funk's cousin. Are they making Tortolini here? No, that's Stephano. Oh, my God. Look how good that looks. This man right here, when I went to Osteria Francescana in Modena, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I love how he said that. Massimo Batura's place. It was like the number one restaurant for many years. He was the chef there that was making all the food. He was like a young man. And then when he opened his restaurant, Restora in New York, it was like, he takes such good care of my mother as well. Like, yo, they just go above and beyond.
Starting point is 01:03:24 He's a beautiful guy. This is art. Like, the way he's making this food, this is art. This is a work of art. He's performing art. Well, who'd I have? I had fucking Devin Haney in the kitchen with me making pasta with him. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Oh, that's crazy. You know, I like to bring these guys in and do weird things. That's crazy. That's awesome. Devin Haney making pasta. Bro. Yuri, bro. I know.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Holy fucking shit. Crazy. What an animal. Well, I mean... How ridiculous that I was so... It's like... It's kind of got to look at two ways. Like, oh shit, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:00 You got to look at it two ways. One, you got to look at it from Yuri's perspective, like he had it there, the fight was over, the guy was hurt, and it... But you also look at from Carlos' perspective. Carlos Oldberg is hurt. He can't move his right leg. They're probably going to stop it in between. rounds. And Uri
Starting point is 01:04:18 he can't move. So Yuri's just pot-shotting him and he's kicking his one good leg. He's kicking his one good leg and then boom, he clips him with a left hook. I mean with the one punch that he's known for. Not just that. The step-back hook. The one punch that
Starting point is 01:04:34 you can throw if your right leg is hurt, a check hook. Crazy. Because when you, the check hook is one of the, like Alexander Volcanowski actually did a really good breakdown of this on YouTube. But What he was talking about is of the check hook, you put all the weight on the front leg a lot. Because as the person's coming, a lot of the weight as you uncork the punch is on that front leg.
Starting point is 01:04:55 And Olberg's, that's a snake. Like the way he throws that left hook is so fast. It was perfect. And it was the perfect punch? He threw one just to get the distance. The distance on the first one and then clip them again. Perfect. But Yuri, man.
Starting point is 01:05:11 So Yuri's saying. It looked like I watched, I know you were watching as well. watching in real time, but it just looked like he got upset that he hurt his knee and he was like, fuck, fuck. He clearly did get upset. I really do think that he got upset. I do think that's true. But it makes no difference on... It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Carlos got him. Yeah, Carlos got him. He fucked up. That's a clean win. But that's part, yeah, it's part of fighting. Like, you have to be ruthless. Like, Khalil Roundtree is one of the nicest guys you're ever going to meet. When he fought Modestiscus, he side kicked his knee sideways and blew it apart.
Starting point is 01:05:44 He was nuts. And Khalil is one of the nicest guys alive. But when you're in there, he's trying to do it to you. You're trying to do it to him. And if his leg gets blown out, you have to take advantage of it because he would take advantage of it on you. I've been watching for a long time. I've been watching Khalil for a long time since the beginning.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I remember the change when he went to Thailand, right? There was this change. He came back from Thailand and that's what he did. That was his first fight when he was fucking... The first fight was Eric Anders. Yeah, and he looked totally different. Yeah, me and he looked totally different. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah, me and DC were like, what happened? Right? Because he was always good. With the front leg and just like all time movements. He was super sharp. He was super sharp. That was nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:25 So that's it. Oh, my God. So horrible to watch. Oh, my God. Just perfect sidekick to the knee. Just blew his shit apart. That guy was out for over a year. I mean, that's one of the gnarliest.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Oh, it's so nasty when you see it sideways. Oh, because it started at the thigh. I don't want to see it, Jamie. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Oh, bro, it started at the thigh. Show me some Khalil Roundtree versus Eric Anders. So Eric Anders is one of the toughest fucking human beings to ever live. For sure.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Because he was getting lit up. His legs were getting destroyed and he never even flinched. He never even made an owl face. It was never like, there's nothing. He just dead stoic the entire time. And then I asked him after, he said, oh, fuck yeah, that shit hurt. But guys like Eric Anders, he's been in the U.S. for 10 years. Decent career.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Super smart guy. He invested his money, bought a bunch of houses. Oh, really? Very clever. Oh, that's great. Very smart. Yeah, he's smart. That's good to know. Yeah, he's planning. And he's just a cool dude to talk to. But when Khalil came, like, we were looking at him, it's like he's moving like a tie, like the hand movements, everything.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah, he came back totally different. That light front foot, it was like full on Muay Thai. And Khalil's always been super fast. Like, one of his strengths is that he can hit guys before they even calculate. Like his speed when he's like really going after you like in the Jamal Hill fight, he's got speed that confuses guys because they're like, oh shit, like you got to recalibrate because this guy moves faster than any of the middleweights.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Nasty elbows. And he's a nasty like just. He's like, well I shouldn't say to any middleweight, but he moves like a middleweight. That's what I should say. He's got like middleweight speed but a light heavyweight frame. And he just started lighting him up with like pure tie technique. And this was the perfect kind of showcase for him because Eric's not like a big wrestler. Eric's kind of a brawler. And with a guy like Khalil, especially since Eric fights Southpaw. So when you fight Southpaw and Khalil fights Southpaw, it really opens up that left leg to get attacked or the right leg, excuse me, to get attacked. Because your power leg is behind you, whereas you're fighting normal people that are orthodox. It's usually you have to kick them with an inside kick
Starting point is 01:08:41 if you're a south paw. But south paw to south paw like this, Khalil just can light that leg on fire. Oh, it was fucking... But it was the sound it was making. Like when we were there, it was like slap. This was memorably different. Well, he had just gotten really tuned in, man.
Starting point is 01:08:59 When he was in Thailand, he got really tuned in. Particularly, oh, you already got it in the second round. It was particularly the first round. He got tuned up before this, right? Which made him go there? Which made him go to Thailand? Johnny Walker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:09 So Johnny Walker clipped him with an elbow. from the clinch. He hit him in a tile him and caoed him. Oh, yeah. Back when Johnny Walker was like very explosive and Johnny Walker was very wild. He fought wild. He fights more calculated now. Yeah, after, I mean, I feel like after the worm, it was a rap, after he hurt himself. Oh, that worm thing was crazy. That one thing. Like the shoulder is one of the worst things to hurt and then get surgery out. It never comes back, right? He blew it apart too. Blue, doing the fucking, it was just, you know, having a good thing. You know, having a good thing. I think that was that Mishas or Kornoff.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I don't know who he fought during that fight, but it was, he fought a good guy. And it's like Johnny Walker, when he was winning in the early days of his fights in the UFC, he was just, yeah, it's circlingoff, right? Yeah. Like that kind of shit, like these flying elbows, like wild, reckless. But he got caoed a few times by some really technical people. And then he tried to be, yeah, right there. Like he fucked his.
Starting point is 01:10:11 elbow up or his shoulder up. I've jumped on the bed like that and hurt my fucking arm. You know, when you jump on the knee? Yeah, he blew it apart. You forget that your arm is connected. He fell like that and like immediately blew his shoulder out. God, that's so silly. Fucking horrible.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Look at him. Looks like you can kill himself. Oh, you could see it pop out. Terrible, bro. Yeah. Terrible. So people just shoot themselves in the dick. I know, they do.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yeah, there's a lot of people that do. A lot of people ruin their life for no fucking reason. You can't help it. I go through life trying not to shoot myself in the dick. Yeah, me too. That's like one of my cardinal rules. Cardinal. I think everybody should abide by that.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Don't shoot yourself in the dick, if you can avoid it. If you can avoid it, if not. There you go. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. But, you know, fighters are wild people. They're doing a wild thing. Like, it's part of what makes them great is that they take these crazy chances.
Starting point is 01:11:03 They're just nuts. What am I silly? Oh, you lift the top? Where? The top top. It flips back. There you go. And then push that button up.
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Starting point is 01:12:25 Tell me about the tree. I understand his perspective, you know, that he did fuck up and he could have attacked and been smarter, but you can't have that excuse. He really was upset. You could tell he was upset right when Carlos Oldberg's knee blew out. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:12:41 that impressed me the most. He's upset at him for fucking blowing his knee out. What are you going to do? Well, he was upset at the moment, right? He wanted it to be a clean victory, right? But Carlos wasn't upset. That was what I was most impressed with. That guy never lost composure.
Starting point is 01:12:55 He tried a switch kick, a jumping switch kick to the head. To see if it worked. And his leg fell out again, and he fell down again and scrambled. But he never lost composure. He never showed anxiety in his face. Just a stone cold killer looking for his moment. And he found it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:13 KB guys. It's a world champion. For real. That's a world champion. I mean, that's how you really become a world champion. You have a blown out knee and you find a way to KO a guy who's this wild, aggressive, awkward dude. You know, and he's coming after you. You got a blown out knee.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And you just blink. Perfect fucking left hook. Those guys from the South Pacific are a different breed. Well, he certainly is. I mean, he's got a phenomenal camp. That camp is phenomenal. That's what I'm saying. The camp is unheard of.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yeah, the camp is phenomenal. Eugene Barerman, the guy's the head coach. Super fucking smart, dude. I went down there in 2018. I went down there and I saw Izzy before the Brunson fight. And it was like in the old KB and I had them come through and Eugene came out. I was DJing in New Zealand for an evening. My friend's restaurant and I had them come out.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Yeah, it was dope. Oh, that's cool. You were DJing in a restaurant? I was DJing. You know, I played a. all kinds of fucking weird, like 70s funk, African music, Brazilian music. I just happened to be down there and everyone came through. It was a good time.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Oh, here's something that people are saying is real. It's not, but I found out today. Everyone's saying that Hamzaa Chimayev and Gordon Ryan are going to wrestle. It's not true. R.A.F? Yeah. I like R.A.F. I like R.A.F too.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I like, there's just like something new and exciting. Sure. I don't particularly love the action. I like wrestling. but it's not as exciting as the entirety of the event. You understand? Right.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Like the press conference, the people involved. The actual moves, I prefer fighting in just like a different type of like combat, but it still gets me going. I enjoy it a lot. Look, it's the most important skill in MMA. It's the most important skill,
Starting point is 01:15:02 but I like when you mix it. I don't like it singularly more than anything else. I understand. But, the reality is in order to be at an elite level, you have to do it by itself. I think for the most part. George St. Pierre might be an example of a guy who violates that law because George didn't really wrestle in college or high school. He learned how to wrestle from a bunch of
Starting point is 01:15:26 Russian nationals in Montreal. Well, that works also. If you didn't start wrestling when you're five years old, that's the other way to do it. Two, three years, Dagestan, that's it. Two years, Dagestan, forget. And forget. I mean, I'm excited for Kamzad and Sean Strickland because it'll be in Newark, I'm going to be there. Yeah, for sure, dog. I'll be right there. I'll be there too.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Yeah, you'll be there. The White House thing I'm excited for too. I want to ask to go, but I don't know if it's a lot. It seems like a lot of fucking hoopla. I might just watch on TV. I would watch that on TV if I wasn't working there. I think the Strickland and Hamzat fight is going to be very interesting. Strickland is not an easy guy to take down
Starting point is 01:16:10 And he's not an easy guy to hold down And he's a very difficult guy to hit on his feet And he's got a super awkward style His style is very clever It's very different It's not something that's easy to replicate In far as timing in the gym He reminds me of Bhop
Starting point is 01:16:25 A little bit, right? He reminds me of like Bhop But just a little bit more sloppy Not sloppy, just a little bit more Loose and wild Yeah loose and wild And then also It's because he has other options
Starting point is 01:16:37 right it's because he's kicking it's because he's taking you down he's causing his crambles his teep off his front legs phenomenal and she just throws good straight punches man just good hard straight punches his fucking jab is so accurate you you know people think of a jab as like you know it's not that big a deal that guy thumps you in the face with a jab three four times you're kind of fucked your nose is broken bleeding or it's least bleeding well there's three kinds of jabs there's the soft one then there's that stepping there's a fucking hard jab you know like yeah throws them all yeah that that guy awesome Mazumat Mazurkanov. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just lost to Paulo Costa.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Yeah, Paulo fucked him up. But that guy has one of the most evil jabs. He, like, steps forward and he only jab hooks at you. Yeah, he turns that bitch off. Yeah. It's almost like a hook. Yeah. And he knocked out, um, fuck, what is his name? Rockich.
Starting point is 01:17:26 He knocked out Rockich with that one punch, stepped in with a jab. Rockish's his chin went a couple of fights ago. But, you know. Rockich is a, he's been in some wars. He's an animal. He's been in a animal. He's been in a animal. It was a good fight.
Starting point is 01:17:37 until that moment, but Mazurkanov, I was so impressed that he just wouldn't abandon that strategy of going after Paulo Costa. I mean, Paulo looked good. He looked fucking phenomenal. If I was in his corner, I would say, dude, never go back to middleweight. You are a fucking light heavyweight champion. He's a ridiculous. He's a year. 100%. He's a light heavyweight champion.
Starting point is 01:17:58 One million percent. And while this guy, while Carlis Oldberg is going to be out for a year, because he's going to have to get ACL reconstruction. You know, he had it already, right? Polo Costa could be the interim light heavyweight champion. Like, no doubt, man. I really think he could pull that off. Dude, at light heavyweight, he's fucking terrifying.
Starting point is 01:18:16 It's crazy to go to... He looks like the Polo Costa of old. When he was destroying people on his way up to the ranks, man. That's what I'm saying. Like, to see him go from there and then to, like, have those little hiccups and shit like that, and it almost seemed like he was a joke at one point when Izzy humped him, just made him look fucking...
Starting point is 01:18:32 Yeah. So less than as a human being. When he's really just Izzy mind fucked him He fucking He fucked him over for a couple years For a couple years That's how crazy that fight was
Starting point is 01:18:43 He's just coming back now The Luke Rockhold I think helped him But even Luke almost fucking knocked him out Bro, that was a great fight Why you put that in Utah Wasn't it in Utah? High altitude
Starting point is 01:18:56 Yeah good point Yeah If that was somewhere else I don't know Well it was a great fight Yeah it was fun And that was like Luke's last really great performance where he still looked like a world caliber fighter.
Starting point is 01:19:06 For sure. But I think Hamzat against Azamat was the best Hamzah, excuse me, when I think Polo, Polo Costa against Osamaat, was the best Paulo Costa I've seen a long time. I mean, he looked better because he looked physically stronger. Like, being at Light Heavyweight didn't at all look like a stretch. In fact, he looked like a better place for him. Like when I was listening to the sound of his punches and his kicks,
Starting point is 01:19:29 it was even harder than before. He didn't look fat at all. He looked like a perfect light heavyweight. Like, I think he's probably, at least at this stage in his life, because I think Paulo's like 34 now. He has to be. It would be way better for him to compete at light heavyweight. And there's not a lot of people waiting in the line.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Yeah. At light heavyweight, 34 is almost prime. Yes. Like at light heavyweight, that's a great age. Sure. Well, that was like when Izzy was on top of shit. He was around 34. John Jones was a little younger.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Well, John Jones was the youngest champion in history. That's a different guy. But like when you look at Paulo Costa's performances and then you look at this last one, you're like, that might be the best Paulo Costa of all time. He looked fucking phenomenal. And he ate some big shots from Osamot and just didn't even flinch. Didn't even flinch. I can't even imagine how that man cuts to 185. It's truly unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:20:21 That muscle mass that goes away during that, it's just like... It weakens him. It weakens him. It weakens him at 205 is really the way to go. because I guarantee you he's probably walking around at about like 2.30 or something. He might be a good fucking heavyway, too. He said if Derek Lewis falls out of the White House card, he'll step in and fight it heavyweight. Well, it makes sense to fight Josh Hockett at that way because they're both similar body types.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I'm not similar. He's a lot more jack. How dare you? Excuse me. I meant weight-wise. They're both around 240. Right, right, right. But they look a lot different.
Starting point is 01:20:54 A lot. They look a lot. I don't know if Hokit's ready for that yet. That's crazy. Unless he could take Paulo down, he's going to get... That's a... It's a fun. It'll be fun because he'll go after him.
Starting point is 01:21:06 He's going to go... Curtis Blades is very different than Paulo Costa. When it comes to striking, Paulo Costa's fucking terrifying. But I've also shook... How do you say? Shooking? Shake his hand? I shook... Curtis Blade's hand?
Starting point is 01:21:21 Oh, the giant. It's fucking four times the size of a normal hand. Oh, yeah. Curtis Blades is huge... To be punched by that hand that many times and to not go down. pretty impressive. Well, also impressive for Curtis. Curtis had a blown out eye socket, a broken nose. Curtis is the man. I love Curtis. He's got incredible heart, incredible heart. He just did
Starting point is 01:21:39 not. After all that shit that Josh Hook had talked, he did not want to lose that man. He gave everything he had. There was not a moment of quit in that fight for Curtis. He could have scored it for him if you wanted. Well, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think that would be reasonable. But he certainly gave a great account. reasonable yeah but that's not fair that you're right it's egregious it could be he might have won a round but the the most important thing is like that guy he gave it what he had he gave it he could be proud he could be proud that guy there's not there's no question all that guy left nothing there was nothing left in the tank at the end of that third round you know and that's all you could ever ask
Starting point is 01:22:19 it's a fucking beautiful fight to watch especially from heavy weights man but it makes me sad too because I'm like boy you can only do a few of those that's probably the last one I mean I always Go back to like... Of that... The Kane Velazquez, Jr. D'A Santos ones. Nasty. Nasty. Those were so hard to watch, man.
Starting point is 01:22:36 It's nasty stuff. Because Kane just didn't get tired. Being in there with a guy like Kane who didn't get tired and you're constantly getting punched in the face, constantly. And it's just nothing but heart keeps you there until the fifth round. Kane, man. I just want to shake Kane's hand. Give him a hug. He's out.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Yeah, I know. We were trying to get him on the podcast before he went in. But the judge wouldn't allow it. Really? Yeah, I definitely have him on now, though. I love Kane. He's in my top. I don't think there's a goat, a real goat in heavyweight
Starting point is 01:23:06 because I think there's times where one guy would have beaten all the other guys. Of course. Everyone had their moments, though. Yeah, he's in the goat category. For sure. I would say in heavyweight there's a goat category. You got to put Steep A in there because he defended the heavyweight title more than anybody. He beat In Ghana when in Ghana was in his fucking prime.
Starting point is 01:23:27 and got rocked a bunch of times. Oh, that was a crazy fight, too. Crazy fight. Crazy fight. So you got to give it to him. He's always going to be in the goat category. Kane. Fador, of course.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Fadour is like the real connoisseur, the real hardcore. Connoisseurs and the mayheads. They're like, Fador is the goat. He's the one. I always say everybody forgets about Fabricio Verdoom. Because Fabrice O Verdoom tapped Kane Belasquez, Minotaro Nogara, and Fador. And he tapped Fador when Fadour. was Fador was Fador.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Like, everybody looks at a guy, like, when he lost a bunch of fights, or they didn't go so well for him. And later in his career, he's in his late 30s. When you look at Fabricio Verduem in his prime, he's in that range, man. He beat Kane Velazquez. He beat Mark Hunt with a flying knee to win the title. He has that resume more. I mean, at that time, those are heavy hitters.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Bro. I mean, he beat the best of the best. He beat them all. And he tapped three of the all-time greats. Those are Minotaro for sure when he was in pride. He's in the goat category. But then you got to give it a more like Fador's a notch above him because Fador beat him and beat him with ground and pound. But then the other guys are Kane.
Starting point is 01:24:40 And, you know, you always got to think Kane, Prime Kane against anybody ever. Man, who knows? Prime Kane was just an unstoppable tornado of punches and takedowns and no, no tired, no fatigue. It's not coming. Like you think he's going to get tired? He's never going to get tired. He's going to keep punching you in the face. Top-tier wrestling.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Top-tier wrestling. And fucking Fabricio tapped him too. And he's Mexican. Yeah, right? And he's Mexican. A lot of Mexicans have great cardio, man. They have great cardio and unbelievable fucking heart and chin. I wonder if it's from high altitude genetics, you know?
Starting point is 01:25:16 Like you were saying, like, living it. It's warriors. It's warrior genetics. Right. It's 100%. Volcanowski has the same thing. Just from a different type of, a different type of indigenous tribe, you know? The Macedonians and the crazy fucking up in the mountain people.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Right. That are five, six with hands like fucking... Marab. Oh my God. Marab Duavish really perfect example. Also like... Warrior genetics. 100%.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Yeah. That dude, I've never... A lot of these athletes, if they had... It's like if they were had a little size, they'd be playing any professional sport. Right. You know? Oh, yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Especially if you have the mental tough... does to reach championship level. But I've also seen a lot of fighters can't throw a fucking baseball. Like a lot of fighters, they can't do anything else. Like, I grew up playing baseball. I could play every single sport because of the dexterity baseball showed me.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I feel like baseball and basketball are the main sports to show the child early to create dexterity. That's a good sport for competitive drive too. And gymnastics. I've heard Khabib say that you keep your child in gymnastics till they're 10, then they could do martial arts.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I'm following father's plan. Well, that's actually very smart because then he developed like crazy body control. Oh, my God's fucking shredded. Six years old, shredded already, bro. Right, from gymnastics. I've never had an ab. Not even as a child.
Starting point is 01:26:45 I've always had a fucking little bubba. I've always been a little bubba. Hey, man, it's part of your charm. It is, that is part of my. If I was shredded, I wouldn't be as likable. You think so? Let's find out. Probably.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Let's find out because I'll be fucking shirtless everywhere posing. They might not like that. Try this one. Yeah, the light is died out. I buy them new and they still die out quick. You got to get you a torch. This is a, I mean, that's like a mini, that's like a little me. You got to get you to, like a mini welder.
Starting point is 01:27:20 The mini welding one works well. Wow. Underwater welding torches for the cigars. So this Hamzot and Strickland thing, to me, it's going to be what can Hamzad do on the feet? Can he clip him? And can Strickland stop the takedown? I don't even, like, it's so hard to even think anybody could stop Hamzad right now at anything. It's true.
Starting point is 01:27:45 It's like you're not even going to get to throw hands with him. He's just going to be smiling, laughing you think he's going to fucking take you down and manhandle you like no one's ever been manhandled before. His timing and his takedowns is fucking insane. It's great. Watching the training, the speed. And he's like, it's equivalent to like Alan Iverson doing a crossover. He's doing it with that type of like flare. If I was going to make an argument against it, I would say he's handling guys that don't have a big background in elite wrestling.
Starting point is 01:28:17 They're not like elite grapplers. The guy that he fought that was an elite grappler gave him problems. No. Gilbert Burns, for sure. Gilbert Burns fucked him up too. He did. but that was like more stand-up fucking him up. Yeah, but Gilbert Burns just wild.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Like, Gilbert can get back up to his feet. He's dangerous. He's one of the most elite players on the floor, right? Yes, especially back then. You know, Gilbert just retired. Yeah, I know. Congratulations, Gilbert. Tremendous career.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Tremendous. But he, they were banging it out, and Hamzot fought a completely different kind of fight. He tried to, like, slug it out. And I think his ego got in the way because Gilbert clipped him a couple times. A couple times. Dropped him. Guilbert was a wild boy. I was fucking screaming during that one.
Starting point is 01:28:55 He, in his prime. Gilbert was so fucking game. He was so dangerous, man. He knocks people out. So I was going to say Camaro. Camaro Oussman, and that was a short-notice fight that Camaro took at 185. Unbelievable fight.
Starting point is 01:29:10 And in the third round, Camaro was winning. I was like, this would have been very interesting if it was a five-round fight. 100%. I feel like, I mean, it's hard to predict, but he had the momentum 100%. If it was a five-round fight and if Camaro had a full camp.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Because you're taking a fight on that short notice like that. You don't trust in your wind Like you would trust in your wind If you just went through 12 weeks of hell Where you just know you're in fucking tippy top Like that part Was his knee barking also? I'm sure his knees always barking He's such a warrior
Starting point is 01:29:39 When he gets in there He fights like it doesn't matter I mean you know he would they were in the wrestling positions For a while where he like he wasn't able to really do much You know like as far as men He defended Homsop wasn't able to do anything to him That's what I'm saying it was like a stalemay kind
Starting point is 01:29:52 They were just like there Where with everybody else Homsop basically rag dolls them mounts them, gets him down, submits them. Kevin Holley just rolls you around. It was like a fucking video game, like Rolling Thunder. That was crazy. And him and Kevin Holland had so many words before that, too, so there was a lot of anger
Starting point is 01:30:06 in that. You know? That was crazy. That was a wild man. That was really crazy. And they had gotten some sort of an altercation before that at another event. So there was bad blood there. So it was like, Hamzai just wanted to prove a point. You know, these guys aren't really playing.
Starting point is 01:30:22 They play by a different set of rules coming from that... That block. Yeah, that's a fucking war zone. That's a different block. It's a war zone, son. They're used to actual fights. For sure.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Yeah, like to stay alive. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Scary shit, man. That's a fight, though. It's a really interesting fight. It's, we're going to know real soon, like early on in the fight, whether or not Strickland can avoid the takedown and whether or not Hamzok can hit him and whether or not he could avoid getting hit. Because Strickland will set some traps. He's sneaky with his striking.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Very clever. Very clever with his striking. I mean, also, Hamzat had the issue coming off of that, off of COVID. He had that long, long COVID where his lungs were fucked for a while. Well, you know what that was? He wouldn't stop training. So he got COVID and trained hard like a fucking psychopath all through COVID to the point where he was getting bleeding out of his lungs.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Oh, no fucking shit. He was coughing up blood. He just, apparently he's an animal. They just can't keep him out of the gym. They just can't keep him out of the gym. And so he kept training while he had COVID. And it got real bad, the point where he was hospitalized. That's, I don't, that's a different type of level of being able to just like push past, like, physical sickness.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Because COVID just fucked up. Push past the point where you're almost dead. Yeah, but also like- And he's still showing up doing rounds. I think I had mentioned this, but I was trained with, um, Plinyo and Pereira before the first oncolae fight. And we got sick the same way. Oh, wow. Neuro.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Everyone, like I was sick. Norovirus, right? Yeah, bro, I was fucking so sick, and he went and did the fight. Did the whole thing. He was as sick as me, apparently. That was the first Uncle I fight. The first Uncle I fight. I fucking literally was knocked out for 10 days.
Starting point is 01:32:08 And this motherfucker fucker's training, traveling, and fighting. With the norovirus. Yeah. For the championship. And it wasn't a, it wasn't a Pereira fight, but it was not horrible. No, it wasn't terrible. He lost. But then the second fight was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:32:24 I see what I'm training now, bro. He looks like a fucking behemoth at 250. He's in 260s now. Holy shit. They weighed in at 263. Bro, him at 263 is scary. It's nuts. That guy fought at 185 just a couple years ago.
Starting point is 01:32:41 This is his true body type. He's meant to be a cowboy. You know what I mean? He's like a fucking Brazilian cowboy. Amazon Warrior jeans. Same shit we're talking about. That's what he is. It's the bone density stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:54 It's not, it's like, it's true. Genetics. Indigeny. Mm-hmm. It's true. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's real, you look at certain people and you see the past. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:02 I see. Warriors. Bro. Yeah. When that song comes out. Chance were made to excite. They would, they, did, they, did, they, did it, to conjure up spirit. That's what he fucking does.
Starting point is 01:33:15 He's conjuring up spirit. That's why Yeri thought that he was cast his spells. He was going to shrink his head. Yeri asked him in the. second fight to not use spiritual warfare. So good. That's cool. There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no movie that can write this type
Starting point is 01:33:33 of script. I love this shit. Yeah, I felt bad for Yuri, but I felt great for Carlos at the same time. It's like, I love that whole team. Ash and all those boys out there. Yeah, they're great guys. I like those guys. It's like, look, I get it.
Starting point is 01:33:48 It's a hard pill to swallow. I get it. You did back off. I get it. But also, that guy just. You can only blame yourself on that one. He found a way to win. Found a way to win in the most spectacular way possible.
Starting point is 01:34:00 That's the only thing that should really be spoken about is his will and his, like, his ability to fight through that. Bro, torn ACL, they're carding you off the fucking field. I know. Everyone's crying that their career is over in football, carding you off the field with your heads like that. I know. This dude's fucking knocking homey out for the light heavyweight championship at the world. Fucking crazy. So to have that type of.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Will and you, you could only just be mesmerized by that. I know. It's nuts, man. Think about it. Like how many great fights are out there to be had, how many great fights have been had. I mean, those moments like that, that's like you can't, that's one of the things that makes a sport so exciting. Like, you couldn't have imagined that he would blow his knee out. And then you could have imagined that Yuri would pause and not know what to do.
Starting point is 01:34:50 And then you couldn't have imagined that Carlos would knock him out. That's perfectly. Let me ask you something about the footing. in the octagon. Did his foot slip? Was this slippery in there? I think it was just a placement issue. He placed it wrong and it.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Yeah, sometimes in scrambles. You know, you're moving weird and... So he over-extend, did he missed the spot? It looks like it just blew out, man. Because that shit just w-blop-blop-bl-bl-cliff. There's a video of Carlos blowing his knee out. And it looks like they're in the middle of a wild exchange. He moves his foot in a certain way.
Starting point is 01:35:20 And it just pops. And you can see it go up the back of his leg, the ripple. It just snapped up. It was nasty. It's nasty. Yeah, it's horrible. And it's going to take a long time for that thing to be better again. But he won.
Starting point is 01:35:31 He won. He won't champion. And then Paulo Costa, interim champion. If I was the fucking captain of the ship, that's what I would do. Hey, Paulo, you're a fucking star. Maybe on Kaliav. I mean, I know that Pereira just knocked him out, but he deserves to be in. So here it is.
Starting point is 01:35:50 So he placed his leg weird and pushed off and it just blew out. See? It looked like he was on. Just a freak movement. He didn't step on the paw of the foot. He stepped more on the inside like that, like the angle of the step. Well, it was definitely weird because they're in the middle of a scramble, you know? But look at him.
Starting point is 01:36:10 And look at his athleticism right there. The way he just spun off that and stayed on that left leg. Yeah, no, that's nasty. When that happens, your leg's just so unstable. The crazy thing is there's guys in the U.S. See how it's like... That fight with no ACL. They have no ACL and they fight in the UFC.
Starting point is 01:36:29 I know Hafeel Dosangos was doing that for a while. He had no ACL and he was fighting in the UFC. I mean, was that during his decline? Or was he chanced? He was still pretty close to the top. He had lost the title, but he was still pretty close to the top. We were still fucking a lot of people up. He's just another breed also.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Well, that guy, the conditioning. That guy was sculpted. Dosangos in his prime looked like somebody made him out of marble. It looked like he belonged at the Vatican You know I was fear Every time I tell people I'm gonna come see you They always said, yo can you ask him this? Can you ask him that?
Starting point is 01:37:05 I started fielding questions for you I'm sorry about that For what? For you getting those questions for me? No, I like it Oh, you do? I like it What are the questions? So ridiculous What's the most ridiculous one? I don't remember It's all silly but one good one is like
Starting point is 01:37:18 When are you gonna have Mirko Krocop here? Oh, I actually talked to him I was in Croatia Because my boy During the summer And I talked to him same neighborhood as him that I train with my boy Dean he's literally a Croatian
Starting point is 01:37:29 he looks like fucking Mirko throws the leg bald-headed fucking he looks like he's like he's a like he's driving BMW M5 for sure I would definitely have Merco on he's a legend need to hear from him yeah he's a legend and he's very funny
Starting point is 01:37:47 I've seen him in interviews before I was wondering whether he spoke English or not but he's he speaks pretty perfectly good enough yeah definitely good enough to have a conversation I was watching him versus Fador today. That was a crazy fight. I think that was like 2000. Look at him, man.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Jack! That's unbelievable right there. How old is Merco now? That's a recent picture? Yeah, four days, three years ago. Wow. He's in phenomenal shape. I mean, he's got to be 50.
Starting point is 01:38:13 How old is Mercco now? That stuff doesn't go away when it's real, man. 51? 51. That's unbelievable. Shredd. Yeah, he was an animal. In his prime, boy, he was the first kickboxer to really start doing well in MMA because he was so explosive.
Starting point is 01:38:33 See, a lot of the other guys, like Ernesto Hoosst or Peter Ertz, they were real technical, but they set things up. They were slappers for the most. They were setting things up. But with Merckle, he would just explode on you. Fucking explode your liver, explode your head with those fucking kicks, man. He was so fast and so explosive that when he entered into MMA, he had a kind of advantage. This is back when they let him fight with shoes on.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Merco with shoes on is a crazy proposition. That's nuts. I just, I've seen, I see a guy like this and I go, that's a giant. Yeah, he's a giant. But I mean, so. Longman Troy, he was like seven plus feet tall. So when you find a skeleton of a person like this, yeah, giants are real.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Oh, yeah, definitely. They're around now, too. Right, definitely. Yeah. But he doesn't look like he has gigantism. No, he does. He does. He does.
Starting point is 01:39:21 No, but he, no, but, you know, like, most of those guys are unathletic their knees are knocking right right right he doesn't seem unathletic I see what you're saying you know he has more like he looks like he's kind of on his toes you know like he's
Starting point is 01:39:36 moves well yeah like his legs are working in the right way he has proper athleticism well there's another guy that beat Fador big foot so old yeah but he looked like he had fucking giant face yeah yeah NBA Victor Wemagnama is again
Starting point is 01:39:50 Wemba Jemba's seven foot four That's crazy. It doesn't look like he moves as well as he does. He's 22 years old. He's a fucking praying mantis this kid. He should be able to do this stuff. He dribbles behind his back.
Starting point is 01:40:00 He shoots threes. Bro, do you watch the NBA? 7 foot four is crazy. It's crazy. Do you watch the NBA though? Sometimes. All right. Seven foot four is different when you weigh 190 pounds.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Right. You know, seven foot four like Rick Smith's back in the day or like dudes who have a little weight on them look different. This guy is... He's 235. But that's unbelievable. You don't believe that? You don't believe that?
Starting point is 01:40:21 I probably. No, he has to be. He's so big. He's still getting bigger, too. He's got a little brother that's not even in the NBA yet. He's like 16. This is the future right here. He's what? He's maybe 16 or 17 his younger brother. And he's still growing. I don't know, 610 now. Yeah. This is this ridiculous. This is the future right here of sports. Giant humans. Right. So that, if you go back to the Bible. It's like nuclear league football. There are giants. They're around. They've been around. Well, look at the guys in Iceland. Like the mountain. Game of Thrones all the time. My favorite people. Yeah. John Paul Sigmason, one of my favorite strong men of all time. All the Icelandic heroes. I know, right?
Starting point is 01:40:59 All Vikings. My favorite. Half Thor Bjornton. He's the guy from Game of Thrones. Yeah. Yeah, that's the mountain. Yeah, he's the mountain. But, bro, like I was, you know, world strong man taught me about the world.
Starting point is 01:41:13 It taught me about how to pronounce names and, yeah. Magnus von Magnuson. Magnus. Their Magnus. and that's who it is. There's all Icelandic legends. Yeah. Jean-Paul Sigismund, Magnus,
Starting point is 01:41:27 Yanni Viertenin and Yucahola from Finland. Like, whoa, I have so... Genetics in that part of the world. Unreal. Viking. Like, Viking genetics. Yeah, but that's like... You want to know what a Viking looked like?
Starting point is 01:41:39 That's what they looked like. Those guys showed up with a fucking... A gigantic boat filled with animals. Swinging swords. Just ready to kill everybody in your village. Fun. Swinging that fucking mace. Swinging the hammer.
Starting point is 01:41:50 May I have that, please? Yeah. Yeah, man. I'm re-watching Game of Thrones. I'm on the final season now. I've never seen it. God damn, it's good. I've been watching Moboland.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Good. That's great. Tom Hardy kills it. I love Tom Hardy. That's my man. Yeah. But fucking Pierce Brosnan? Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Kills it. And what is the woman's name again? Helen Marin? Oh, my. She's so good. She's so good. What a fucking. and legendary cast.
Starting point is 01:42:21 I really like that show a lot. Yeah, that's amazing. I like to be on it. Guy Ritchie's the fucking man. He can find the part for me. I can't do an accent. You could learn. You can learn an accent, bro.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Let's try it out right now. Which one? Irish. Liverpool. Oh, fuck. That's sick. There you go. You're in.
Starting point is 01:42:39 I've been there. I'm a schauser. You could do it, bro. You have to chazze. You would live with Patty Pemblet for like a week. Neepal Molly. I want to live with Mali. I want to live with Mali.
Starting point is 01:42:48 They'll teach you how to talk Scouser. And I want to box. There you go. I just want to throw hands. I just love fucking, like, I just want to, I love boxing. Do you for real, for you? I love it. But remember you were trying to show me how to throw kick?
Starting point is 01:43:02 I just stopped kicking. Yeah, you gave up? I'm not a kicker. You don't have to be. I'm not a kicker. I'm a choker. I'd like to be a choker. You could learn how to kick.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I could. You could learn. You've got to learn how to stretch first. It's that leg thing, man. I'm scared to break my leg again. Yeah. Because every time I kick it. the wrong place, it feels like you hit
Starting point is 01:43:22 the ball on the wrong part of the bat. When you broke your leg, did you have to get pins? Yeah, I got, it broke in half. It broke in half so I got the plate. But it was a clean break. It was good. It's better to get shattered. Shattered, I would have been...
Starting point is 01:43:37 Shatter is bad. So, clean break. It kind of made a bionic return. So it doesn't bother you now? No, nothing. Oh. No, it's strong, but if I kick it in the exact spot, I'll feel it. Right. Like if someone checks a kick on their knee or something like that. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:43:52 What part of your knee or your leg broke? I'm going to not disclose that like Bill Belichick. Look at you. You're hiding injuries. How did you break it? I fell. Literally slipped in the kitchen. I was making fucking two hamburgers
Starting point is 01:44:08 and I was carrying them out and the homie was mopping at the same time. I was wearing the wrong shoe and I just slipped and it got caught behind me. That sucks. A freak accident. You know, that happened is, what's his face? Pierce Morgan.
Starting point is 01:44:20 he fell and broke his hip had he get his hip replaced that's the thing he doesn't seem like he's in great shape I was in fucking sick shape at the time I was in I was riding my bike every day I was feeling good how long ago this happened 2011
Starting point is 01:44:34 oh no 2010 so that's why you're worried about kicking so don't kick anybody just work on knees I like inside knee hey girl that's a good move for you clinch knee it's all just about a hip mobility just learn some hip mobility just learn some hip
Starting point is 01:44:50 mobility stuff. You know, like ballerina bars? Yeah, yeah. Those are actually really good. Yeah, I have one. I could do a good, I could get the leg up there. Ballerina bar is really good for swinging your leg. You, like, you stand on your left leg and swing your right leg like this, and then up like that
Starting point is 01:45:05 and this and like that. That's really good for like opening it up and getting the dexterity and strengthening up those supporting muscles. Yeah. All the flexors. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Everybody should have some leg and hip mobility.
Starting point is 01:45:20 you should be able to throw a kick. It's not that hard, especially a low kick. No, I could throw it. But, you know, the accuracy and, you know, the devastation factor might not be the... You'll figure it out. You're a big guy. You're strong. You got a lot of horsepower back there.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Come here. Come here. They fucking wrestle you. Yeah, I hear. You're getting excited. I train with Plinyo a lot. Yeah, I train with him in Jersey. Just holds pads.
Starting point is 01:45:47 I thought he was in Connecticut? Oh, his place is in Jersey. And Glover's in Connecticut. But everyone's pretty close. What part of Jersey is Plinyo in? In Nutley. Oh, nice. Right there.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Like 50 minutes from me. That's great. That's great. Gives me good work. He's a good dude, too. I love him. And great coach. And they spend, yeah, I'm going to say he spends time with me and, like, teaches me fighting.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Mm-hmm. We're not boxing. Show me how to fight. Right. Like things Alex would do. It's probably a good thing for you, too, to have something that takes your mind off all the other shit you do. It's one of my favorite things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:20 The thing is the thing, one thing takes my mind off the next. This takes my mind off of that thing, that takes my mind off of that. So it's like a constant therapy that I'm giving myself because I'm getting burnt out here. Oh, let's turn to this. Now that's stopping me from doing that, and I'll get burnt out there, go to the next thing. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:38 I'm just a seasonal person. I like doing things when I'm like, when I feel them. I know what you mean. Yeah. You feel it. You feel it. I just enjoy it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:46:47 I don't want to be forced. Maybe he'll start golf in soon. That's fucking not for me I'm really good Look at me I'm really good Pitch and put I'm a fucking pro
Starting point is 01:46:58 You're good mini golfer Pitch and putt Not mini golf I'm not that good What's the difference Pitch and putt is like everything except driving It's like a hundred yards It's like a city game You have it at the park
Starting point is 01:47:09 Oh But there's good 70 yard Okay What's the wedge Mm-hmm Okay it's just not long drives No drives Got it so I'm pretty good
Starting point is 01:47:20 So every golf game starts off with the long... I'm totally ignorant. Me too. Every game starts with a drive from the beginning. Is that true? Mostly. 14... It should be two par threes per side.
Starting point is 01:47:32 It's not... Every course isn't the same, but it's like average. Two par threes per side. Two par fives per side and the rest of par fours. And do you always open with like a long shot? Is that the thing? Isn't that like... How you play the course is supposed to be up to you?
Starting point is 01:47:45 Ideally, you want to get as far... How would they play in PGA? one swing as possible, so you have less strokes. How does the master start? That's how I'm starting. How they start in Augusta, Shinnecock. I want to play all these. I just want to smoke, hash on the golf courses and chill while other people play.
Starting point is 01:48:10 That's what you want to do? That's doable. I think we could do that. I think that's very attainable. Sounds like we have a show. I want to do it once. I don't want to follow them. It sounds like we might have a show.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Well, you already did that with ancient aliens Bro, how do we bring this back? Were you fucking producing it? I was just talking about it yesterday. Can you produce this for me? I don't know. I don't mean to put you on the spot. I don't need to put you on the spot.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Can you be the executive producer? Co? Well, where would we do it? It really doesn't take much. Where did you do it before? You did it at Vice? We did it in a fucking rented studio with Green Screen. That's where Vice went bad.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Well, they should have kept you around. They fucked up. They fucked everything. They had you. They had Eddie. Wong. They had a bunch of dope shows. I did Eddie Wong show. We went and did yoga together. Seriously? Yeah. Yeah, bro. I don't even want to tell you what I'm about to do. I love Eddie. He's a good kid. Fucking, I'm about to do Tybo with Billy Blanks.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Now? Like, today? Like. You're about to do it? Thursday. Really? Me, Ryan Seacrest, and Billy Blanks. Oh boy. Oh boy. I'm going to tell you here first. I went on Wheel of Fortune. Did you? I did. How'd you do? I can't tell you yet, but just let me tell you I dominated. I can't tell anyone yet, but I dominated.
Starting point is 01:49:27 I think he just told us. Let me just say something, bro. I'm sorry if this is going to ruin anything, but for fuck's sake, I dominated. Nice. Beautiful. I mean, I'm looking for Jeopardy, to be honest. I'm better at Jeopardy. And so why are you going and doing Tybo with Ryan Seacrest and Billy Blanks?
Starting point is 01:49:44 Because they took a liking to me, and now he wants to do something else. Oh, so you guys filming this? Yeah, we're going to film me and Ryan doing Tybo with Billy Blanks But for me, Billy Blanks The Last Boy Scout, the first scene That's right That's what I know him for, that's my shit
Starting point is 01:50:00 That's right Ain't life a bitch And he fucking shit Come on. I forgot about that It's one of my favorite movies of all time Well, Damon Waynes is one of my favorite comics In all time Damon Wayne's is a fucking underrated comic
Starting point is 01:50:13 Underrated comic Underrated comic and underrated action star He was great in that fucking movie too Bulletproof with Adam Sandler I used to love Damon Waynes. Major pain. Oh, my God. He had a run.
Starting point is 01:50:22 What about his brother in fucking low-down dirty shame? That was a good action movie too. Keenan? Who knew Keenan Ivory Wains was a fucking action hero? Keenan's a cool guy. I'm a get you, sucker? That's right.
Starting point is 01:50:34 That's right. He died from over gold. Too much gold. Wasn't there a guy who had like goldfish tanks for his platform shoes? Of course, man. That was the pimp. You imagine it too
Starting point is 01:50:49 In living color Fish tanks platforms In living color changed my life I should change my life Hey I just read something I should probably call Dave and ask him
Starting point is 01:50:59 But I just read something With it thinking about bringing back to the Shepel show He gave a speech They're so Eddie Murphy got another award this week I think AFI or something And Dave was on stage Speaking and he said
Starting point is 01:51:11 He was talking with Eddie about it And Eddie sort of like Pushed him But then during the speech, he sort of said, all right, if you want to do it. I think they actually even said maybe a movie, like a Chappelle Show movie. Oh, okay. An actual show. But he's like, he kind of said,
Starting point is 01:51:25 Eddie, if you do Charlie's parts, let's do it. Oh, that would be incredible. Yeah, because he kind of doesn't want to do without Charlie. Oh, that would be incredible. Oof. That'd be incredible. Sign me up. I'd be Eddie and Charlie on vacation once. Where?
Starting point is 01:51:39 It's totally random. In Hawaii. Really? Yeah, I was at the counter getting my, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, you know, Keith for the room, and Charlie's cousin was there. I was like, what do you do? What's going on, man? What are you doing here? He's like, Charlie's here with Eddie. Come say hi. And I went over, I had lunch with Charlie and Eddie. I was like, just sitting there talking to him. Like, this is crazy. That's crazy. It was crazy. Where we stay?
Starting point is 01:52:02 Mawanna Surf Club? No, four seasons. Four seasons in Maui. Oh, yes. A nice. Beautiful place. Beautiful place. It was like, just talking to Eddie Murphy. It was like, what? Am I really talking to Eddie Murphy? It was so weird. That's psychedelic right, dude. It was cool. He's really cool.
Starting point is 01:52:17 He's really fun. I met Martin, Martin Lawrence, who was like, my grandparents learned English from this man. My Albanian grandparents would watch Wheel of Fortune Jeopardy and Martin. So, like, you know, and I did the thing with Wheel of Fortune, and then I went to the Knicks game versus the Lakers. I said, fuck it, I'm getting myself a ticket. And as I walk in, it's fucking Martin Lawrence right there almost, I literally, I literally, I literally, I've never done this to another man.
Starting point is 01:52:48 I shook his hand. I went into his ear. I was like, yo, bro, you don't know how much this means to me, man. You don't know. Yo, bro, I was just talking. I was like whispering in his ear how much it meant to me. He fan-boid out. Yeah, I fan-boyed the fuck.
Starting point is 01:52:59 I don't care. I don't care. I did it. Dude, I saw Martin Lawrence in his prime at the comedy store. In the 90s? I would have died to see that. There's another guy that people sleep on. My favorite.
Starting point is 01:53:12 He's one of the best comics ever. Like, when he was in his prime, he would. fucking destroy and I would have to follow him it was hell I bombed so many times Mitzy Shore that lady right there if you were coming up one of the things that she would do is like young comics that she thought of any any promise at all she'd put them on after monsters put you out right on after a ledger
Starting point is 01:53:32 yep that's your spot right on after the killer good luck good luck motherfucker I like that yeah man shows you what kind of shot you got she knew what she was doing I mean, she's the most important figure in comedy outside of comedians, for sure. She's number one. She knew. She knew what she was doing.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Even with her son. I mean, she'd even give Polly a break. You know, Pauly had to earn it himself, too. Damn. That's how she, you know, she knew. She knew, like, how, what was the best environment to create comedy. So, Pauly Shaw was a stand-up first? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:08 I didn't even realize that. Oh, yeah. Polly's been a stand-up forever. I just knew, I just, when I was young, like, he was like, in movies and shit that I liked. He was like that actor. Where's it at? Yeah, well, he started stand-up.
Starting point is 01:54:23 I mean, he used to get babysat by Sam Kinnison. Oh, my God. You got to be a fucking funny guy after that one. Could that be my babysitter? There's some things you don't want to learn when you're that young. I mean... You don't want to learn from Sam. I kind of do.
Starting point is 01:54:40 I kind of... I don't know. I had some pretty fucking... Some interesting characters raised me also. I'm just so glad that the comedy store is still around. I was really worried about them during the pandemic when they were closed for like a fucking year. The whole thing was so insane.
Starting point is 01:54:54 It took so long for L.A. allowed them to open up. Can I ask you something honestly? No. All right. The comics of today, do you find them... It's just because we've aged a little bit and we find different things. Like, do you find them as funny as you found people
Starting point is 01:55:14 that you looked up to, like, your elders? Do you find these younger guys funny? Like, can you vibe with it? Yeah, I definitely could vibe with it. You know, as far as, like... Do they make you cackle the way these other fucking guys did it? For sure. It depends on who you watch it.
Starting point is 01:55:29 You know who I like? I like Stavi. Oh, yeah, Stavvy's hilarious. Stavro's fucking... Stavroos is hilarious. There's more funny comics now, I think, than ever. Really? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Yeah, it's a really good time for, like, up-and-coming people, new people. There's, like, a lot of, like, excitement about comedy. You know, and then there's Kill Tony, which is like this awesome platform for them. So there's so many people were you doing that last night? No, I wasn't there last night. Because I drove by the mothership and it was fucking cranking.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Yeah, that was Kill Tony Knight. I wasn't there last night, but Ari Sheffir was there. Lewis J. Gomez was there. So it was a great, great setup. And it's always a good show. It's always a fun show. And that gives people legit opportunity to get on stage and either to get on YouTube or to get on Netflix
Starting point is 01:56:15 in front of the whole fucking world and it could make your career it could make your life it could change everything it's not like a voice type of vibe it's more of like a fucking real show and then just people see you there it's not like a competition no no no there's no competition but you do get one minute
Starting point is 01:56:33 and if you do well Tony invites you back yeah not judged but you get feedback from the comics or everybody's just fucking around it's all very loose and open Showtime at the Apollo, Tony roast you. No, you don't get yanked. You get your one minute.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Okay. And if you suck, Tony roast you. And, you know, but sometimes the people that suck, they know they sucked and they're really funny talking about how they sucked. It's just a great show. But it's just an opportunity where comedians see there's a path. All I have to do is, like, keep doing open mics, put together an act, start getting a little road work, do kill Tony. And then next thing you know, I'm headlining on the road, like all these other guys that have become regulars on the show. There's a clear path to. Yeah, like you can really make a living and have a real career in comedy. So because of that, it's like comedy is really exciting right now. It's like, and because of YouTube, because you can put your special. Just you don't need like, like, you don't need big guys, you put it right up.
Starting point is 01:57:26 You don't need anything. Just upload it onto YouTube. Next thing you know, it's got a million views. Holy shit. You're off and running. And then people could, the best thing about YouTube is people could share it. You could see a funny comedy special. Oh, shit, you got to watch this. You send it to me. I'm like, ah, and then I'll send it to him. And that's how things happened. And that's how things happened. It's like that never existed before. So that paves the way for more comics to be encouraged to try it. Because if you got a work ethic and you're willing to do it, there's an actual path to having a career. Yeah, because before it had it. It was like a little bit like luck. You had to meet the right person.
Starting point is 01:57:59 And now there's like getting to the major leagues. You go through the minors. You go through here. He's clear. What's the pathway for rappers? I don't know. There's really none. Nowadays, I believe it's all the same.
Starting point is 01:58:12 thing, you just, you choose your own path. You just become mayor. Yeah. You fucking kidding me? I'd love to do that. The mayor, if I could be the mayor. Yeah, you could be the mayor. Just someone got to feed me some political situations.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Like good, good things only. I don't want to do anything bad. No, but like the path to being a rapper, there's really, first off, if you have to be just nice, you have to be good, you shouldn't be doing it if you suck. Right. And some, your friends should tell you, you, listen, this is not for you. Let's step away from this. and do something else.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Right. You have to have good people around you. I had a lot of people around me that are fucking straight-up haters, very raw deal people, and no one told me to stop. Of course. And that inspired me to keep going.
Starting point is 01:58:56 And honestly, you just have to have it within you. You either have it or you don't. I've been around here now 16 years, and I've seen a lot of fucking people come and go. But I've been a constant, and I don't even think I've peaked in any air. of life yet, truly. I feel like I'm on the brink of,
Starting point is 01:59:20 I'm always on the brink of a new exploration, a new breakthrough. And that's how I take things, because I don't like, I don't want to be stagnant, I look older, I'm visibly grizzled, I'm visibly Sean Conneried, but because I started later, you didn't see me as a fucking 15 year old kid jumping around.
Starting point is 01:59:39 Right. I came in as a 27-year-old man, man. Right. So you've seen me throughout the years. I've just now I'm more of a man. Right. So I didn't start as a little baby face, you know? A lot of these kids, you see them 16 years later, they look the exact same
Starting point is 01:59:54 because you saw them at 13. Not me. Right. I fear you. You know? Yeah. Well, that's a great attitude anyway. If you're just continuing to improve at something, that's a great way to live life. I just like learning, man. I love new experiences. I'm not... I want fucking like I'm just finding new things that I love every single day of life.
Starting point is 02:00:14 That's awesome. Truthfully, man. I feel blessed and special to have those type of outlets where I don't have to like search for shit and things just like, hobbies fall in my lap. They do because I really, I'm a connoisseur of many things in life that I love. What other hobbies do you like? Like I said, I love gardening. I love overlanding now.
Starting point is 02:00:37 I love, I want to take my- You go overlanding? I want to take my truck everywhere now. What kind of truck you got? I got a Sequoia. Brand new, 26. It was the best purchase I've ever made in my life. They never break.
Starting point is 02:00:48 They never break. And New York was so fucking heavy duty this. I was like in war mode. There was nothing stopping me. Right. Four-wheel drive. 8-100 wheel drive, that car guy. It got power like you can't believe.
Starting point is 02:01:01 It's perfect. Toyotas are hard to go wrong. Hard to go wrong with a Toyota. I love Toyota. I had Jeeps for a while. But I started. My mother had the 83 Toyota SELica. That was our first car.
Starting point is 02:01:12 We called it Brownie. It got us everywhere. Then we made the change to the 94 Jeep Grand Cherokee Forest Green. We had that for a long time until we got the Hyundai Sonata that I got stolen by accident. You know, it was the morning before, that was the night before the Brett Favre jet experiment that was going to happen.
Starting point is 02:01:33 You know, he went to the jets. I went to the store in my underwear. that I always do up block from my house bought a vanilla dutch and a set for life and two fucking kids jumped in the car and just dipped
Starting point is 02:01:45 Oh no And you were in your underwear I was in my underwear I had to fucking How to make the police report in underwear Why are you in underwear First off That was the first question
Starting point is 02:01:55 Why are you in underwear That's a solid question I said should I take them off You want me to take them off What are you crazy It does make the situation weirder It makes it all weirder Why I left with underwear on only
Starting point is 02:02:07 It was hot out I wouldn't advise that No no don't do that Even if you're going to your local store Did you do things to the Sequoia Did you put a lift on it? What'd you do? Yeah I put the lift on it
Starting point is 02:02:19 I put the change the tires Yeah some 35 some toyos Oh shit look at you I went nuts I got the crazy rack Yeah you got a roof rack the whole deal I even got a roof rack Nice No but I really you know
Starting point is 02:02:32 I'm trying to throw the Dobbinsinsinsons kid on there So it's really lifted and I want to go I want to do like a Dakar rally vibe Okay, so do you want to take this and just go out Into the woods and camp out for a while? I want to do that too But I want to drive to the unknown Just drive over weird shit Yeah
Starting point is 02:02:49 There's a trip that these guys It's probably not It's not the move it's too big, it's too burly I need old land cruisers are the move I need 80 series land cruisers I need something that's a little bit more mobile You're right I've been looking to go maybe Mitsubishi Pajero
Starting point is 02:03:06 Right hand drive or You know what's real good is The Lexus GX Oh that's the one Yeah A little smaller Comfort Uh huh comfort
Starting point is 02:03:15 But also a lot of dudes take those And put lifts on them And there's a lot of aftermarket stuff Available for them Because they're so luxury And they're so fucking reliable That's that Toyota motor Yeah you can't go wrong with Toyota
Starting point is 02:03:27 Bro I'm trying to your Toyota Holar at me Come on I'm the perfect shit Holar at him Toyota Yeah I have a 95
Starting point is 02:03:35 Land Cruelt I love those things. Champagne? No, it's silver. Silver. Silver. Silver. It's Lexus Atomic Silver I had it painted.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Oh, my God. Yeah. It's dope. She gets me crazy. Yeah. And that fucking thing you got the Raptor, the Hennessy? Oh, yeah, I got that too. More than the Hennessy.
Starting point is 02:03:52 What is it, the fucking VSOP? No, it's the Hennessy. It's a Hennessy 1,000. So they take a Raptor R and turn it into a 1,000 horsepower pickup truck. It's ridiculous. Totally necessary. It's 100%. Do you overland here?
Starting point is 02:04:06 No. Just fucking drive the streets. Yeah. Well, I've taken it out to ranches before, though. I've taken it hunting. You need that vehicle for the ranch. It helps. It definitely helps when you get in over stuff.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Those things, they have so much wheel travel. Those raptors, they're so good, especially the Hennessy because it's even more lifted. It's so good at articulating over spaces. So you're saying independent, the independent arms? Well, it's just the suspension is designed to be pliable, right? It's like when you're going over fucked up ground, like moves with it. One tire will be up here. The other one will be there.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Old land cruisers is that they all had solid axles front and rear. That's like a real hardcore off-roading vehicle. You know, the solid axles are just so durable. And because it turns like the side, you've seen like guys going overlanding with land cruisers where they have like the crazy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. With the rocks where they're going over like. Dudes get obsessed with those weird trails, like just getting up them.
Starting point is 02:05:04 I'm starting to be. I'm just The burn The burn is there I'm just Little by little Soon you'll see me And fucking Moab
Starting point is 02:05:12 Going crazy To the box For real She got a Jeep Jeep's really good for that Because they're real small They're not very big You know
Starting point is 02:05:20 Two-door Jeep or four-door Jeep They're real small Easy move A lot of fucking stuff That you could get put on them A lot of aftermarket stuff For jeep How much fun is that
Starting point is 02:05:30 To put shit on things Oh so fun Like to fucking soup things So exciting I'm working on an 87 M6 right now that I've had just sitting there in my garage for 12 years About to give it a new life What are you going to do to it?
Starting point is 02:05:44 Baja Really? Making it a rally car lifting it Holy shit. Big wheels Really? I'm done dropping things I'm only lifting things now
Starting point is 02:05:54 Wow I've dropped every fucking BMW I've had to the ground You know what it is? You're subconsciously preparing for the end of civilization We're going to have to go off the road I got the Japanese G.I. Joe truck. I'm prepping everything. Yeah, you have an apocalypse vehicle.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Yeah, I recommend those. You should get one. When things go sideways, you've got to have something that can go away from the road. 100%. Because if you're stuck in a Ferrari and you're on the highway, you're stuck? I can't even get in the fucking thing right now. I could, but it wouldn't be as good. It sucks.
Starting point is 02:06:26 It's those seats that hug your ass. I don't want anyone hugging my ass. A little tying guy with a cigarette made. Exactly. Fucking with his leg. legs crossed in the car. Like this. Like the real deep bend.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Bro. Who could cross their legs with the deep bend? My nuts don't allow that. It's a European thing. Ars fear does it. He sits like that, but he's tall. Ask him about his nuts. What do they do when that happens?
Starting point is 02:06:50 Tucks them in there somewhere. They go in the space. The gap. The gap between the two legs. You know? That's a crazy way to sit for your own subconscious to know that's how you're sitting. Yeah. That your shit's tucked.
Starting point is 02:07:02 You're crushing nuts. Yeah, nah. I can't do it. Well, you and I both have tree trunk legs. Yeah, no, it's true. There's no way. Get the, it won't work like that. There's no.
Starting point is 02:07:10 Go over there like that. I could barely do a little cross at the ankle. Adam Carolla talks about this. He's like, it's a thing that, like, liberals do to let you know that they think the way you think. To sit like that is unreal. It's like, they've got this, like, cross, like, well, it's like a feminine expression. I'm not threatening. I'm basically progressive.
Starting point is 02:07:29 You know, I'm, you know, I've got the legs in the proper. Yes, letting you know. Yeah. It's all body language. I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here. He holds his hands over his ball. Fucking.
Starting point is 02:07:40 He holds his hands. Everything's open. Yeah. He's got like the hove right over his cock. Yeah. So ridiculous. Oh, man. Well, women always get mad on subways because men, man spread.
Starting point is 02:07:58 But the reason why is that that's how our hips are designed. What is this? The microphones right on his cock. That's ridiculous. I'm like they did that. Oh, man. That is ridiculous. It's a funny picture.
Starting point is 02:08:09 So how did ancient aliens that show that you did, you getting high watching Asian aliens? How'd that even start? Vice was about to fucking take over the history channel. And they just needed content? No. I was like, yo, you guys are fucking bugging. You're not taking this off.
Starting point is 02:08:24 This has to stay. Like, yo, ancient alien, this comes with Vice. Like, this is now going to be transferred. And they were like, I don't know if we could do it. So I had to go and speak to the homie who invented it. He gave me his blessings. I sat with him for like four hours. He was talking shit to me, whatever.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Convinced him. He was, I was like, yo, this is not a joke. Like, everything is tongue in cheek and ridiculous, but this is how it makes us feel. I'm a proponent. I'm a believer. If I need to talk to Giorgio Sukalos, bring him here. Whatever.
Starting point is 02:09:02 So he believed me and he like he gave us the blessing He recently he didn't recently pass but he passed a couple years ago Well who did Georgia? No not Georgia but the main the main creator His name is fucking shit Georgeo's the meme He's the meme yeah he's the hair I'm not saying it's aliens
Starting point is 02:09:18 He's the hair But it's aliens But there's a lot of other sick old dudes on there that I like Oh yeah Well there's a lot of people The guy who just died also Von Danikin? Von Denet yeah
Starting point is 02:09:28 Eric Von Danikin Yeah I met him Really? Yeah, my friend Eric Weinstein brought me to a lunch where he was at, and I had a chance to talk to him about what he believes and all the stuff. He was all in on the idea that aliens definitely came down here and built everything. I'm more of a believer that there was an ending of civilization and a rebirth of it, and that what we're looking at is some incredible technology that humans had invented a long fucking time ago. And that's what's responsible for all these structures that we don't understand.
Starting point is 02:10:04 Like the ones in Mexico are crazy, man. They didn't know, they just uncovered those. I didn't know that until like not that long ago. Yeah, these were... I thought the Aztecs built all that shit. Well, think about all these things that they're finding now. Like, I've seen recently, like, all these pyramids they're finding in Antarctica and... Yeah, like...
Starting point is 02:10:23 Well, I know that there's one mountain... These, like, these... ...mountain... ...odd-old-looking... Yeah, the odd-looking... The odd-looking nature of it is like domes and like points underneath. It looks weird. That one looks weird.
Starting point is 02:10:38 There's a bunch of them in the Amazon that look really weird. Like when they do the LIDAR underneath the riverbed, there's like civilization under there. There's like true civilization in certain areas of the Amazon. Yeah. I have a friend of mine, Luke Caverns, who goes and explores these things all the time. We were actually just talking about one of them that I think is in Peru. I sent it to him and I asked him, I said, hey, is this legit? And he's like, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Not only is it legit, but you can't get there. Like, it's a really hard place to visit. It's almost impossible to get there. And no one's really looked into it in terms of like, here it is. I found it. So what do they do? In overhead? Well, they have images of it.
Starting point is 02:11:17 And you look at the image and you're like, whoa, what is going on here? Like, this is weird. Like the image here. Like full civilization along the bank. Well, it's in the middle. I think it's deep in the jungle. And I think it's very difficult to get to. But the thing is a lot of the jungle, a lot of the Amazon, a lot of this stuff is there's areas where people don't necessarily know how many people were living there a thousand years ago or 2,000 years ago.
Starting point is 02:11:43 It could have been like densely packed. Like, look at that. That looks like a densely packed area with people. What the fuck is that? Like, that does not look. That's the AI version. But go back to that. That's a real picture.
Starting point is 02:11:54 Bro, that does not look natural at all. It doesn't match anything around it. That's crazy. It looks like something that someone built. It doesn't mean that it's something that someone built, and it might just be that angle, right? If you look at it from the other side, it might look like bullshit.
Starting point is 02:12:08 But from that angle right there, there's angles of, there's isosceles right there. There's triangular situations going on. They're saying, but it said in that image that geologists. But it don't look like it's four sides. It looked like five side.
Starting point is 02:12:30 Boom, boom, boom, boom. It's hard to say. No, it could be four. It just could be four. Because where it is, if you just reverse it, you're saying. You're right. So it says geologists refer to this formation as Cerro Elcano, attributing its sharp angles in pyramid-like structure
Starting point is 02:12:45 to the slow, patient work of wind, rain, and erosion over countless centuries. Or someone built it. Like, if you're not exploring it and you're saying that this thing that looks just like a pyramid, you think it was made by pyramid, by slow, patient work. work of wind and rain. But there's no other, there's no other rock around it where why didn't the patients happen there?
Starting point is 02:13:05 This is a straight-up plane. It doesn't make any sense. This is a jungle plane. That looks like a person built it. Those are right angles. And it's covered with bushes. So you've got to think, like, what did it look like when it,
Starting point is 02:13:16 and they haven't gone and checked it out? I'll tell you what Luke said to me, because Luke is actually an expert in the stuff. This is what he does. He goes and visits these places. And he was telling me, it's like, this stuff is so strange because there's a bunch of these kind of structures
Starting point is 02:13:33 that are in the jungle. All of them haven't been explored, and there's a lot of resistance. He says it's deep and uncontacted tribe land. There's a small river that can get you within a 25-mile mark. He said it's crazy out there. So it's just like you just have a really difficult time
Starting point is 02:13:49 in getting to it. I mean, there's a river that can get you within 25 miles of it. Okay. And then what? And then you've got to walk through the jungle, 25 miles to get there. What does it look like on Google Earth?
Starting point is 02:14:01 I don't know nowhere. What does it look like, though? Well, I mean, I'm just showing like the... I know, but get that stupid little dot off of it. It's right out the border of Peru. Bro. What's under there? I want to know what's under there.
Starting point is 02:14:19 Boy, that does look like a fucking pyramid, man. That looks like a pyramid that's covered with bushes. Yeah, out in the middle of nowhere. They find all... Those are other ones? Yeah, look at that. It's in a similar line. It looks like it's in a pattern of a star in the sky.
Starting point is 02:14:35 Right. The tree, the three, boom, boom, boom, and then that. Yeah, it's weird. Oh, here's another one. Did you see that they think that there's a second sphinx in Egypt? Yeah. Yeah, so they've done scans of this area where a second sphinx would be, and there's something under the sand that's the size of a sphinx.
Starting point is 02:14:53 Would it be next to the original one? It's in the same area, like the same area, so you have your pyramids and then there's a sphinx, and on the opposite side, there's another. the sphinx. But the sphinx isn't the sphinx. It was something else. The face was something else, right? They think. They think the face was a lion's face and then a pharaoh. A pharaoh had a dog. The long, not the long snouted dog that they have. Could be. I don't think they think it's that though. I think they think it's a lion. And so there's one exactly opposite of it. I mean. And so this one, what does it look like when they show that image, the scan? I mean, they're always. I mean, they're
Starting point is 02:15:31 I don't think there's anything there. But what did the scan say? I don't. Would you scroll up? See, that's a scan. And it said something above it. It said scans hinting at complex megastructure beneath the Giza Plateau. And so satellite images of the Giza Plateau reportedly captured this dune, which the signal processing
Starting point is 02:15:54 researcher claims measures approximately 108 feet tall. The first fink sits slightly below the surrounding. surface in a shallow depression so it's quite possible the second sphinx could be hidden beneath this higher mound so it's in the right position where a second sphinx would be because i think side by side would they be side by side no i don't think so i think they it's like the pyramids are in the center sphinx going that way sphinx going that way i think that's the idea do sphinx appear in pairs more than once are they would they looking for it because that's a normal Like setup?
Starting point is 02:16:36 Like what's the normal configuration of sphinxes? Yes, sphinxes frequently appear in pairs in ancient Egypt, Greek and Roman art, often acting as guardians and pairs or long avenues at temple entrances rather than as solitary monuments like the great sphinx. I mean, that makes sense, right? If they're facing opposite ways also, one's guarding the exit, one's both entrances. Exactly. They're far away from each other, though. Right, but far in relative position to how far the sphinx is from the pyramids.
Starting point is 02:17:03 in the first place. Well, then we'd have to ask, like, do they appear in pairs far away from each other, not next to each other? Because that's sort of saying, like, they're guarding doors next to each other. Well, there's guarding. I understand, but. Or just entrances. If there's two entrances, you need them.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Well, let's put that into perplexity. Ask it, when sphinxes appear in pairs, what is the configuration? What is the configuration? What configuration? So maybe it'll tell us there and give us, maybe they are like right next to each other and then this doesn't make any sense. Both Egyptian art and architecture, sphinxes very often appear in pairs, usually flanking an axis such as a road, doorway, or staircase site, right? So like two in front of a doorway. Temple approaches, rows or pairs of sphinxes commonly lined the processional roads with one on each side of the central path.
Starting point is 02:18:03 So usually like on two sides of a door. gates and door gateways and doorways pair of sphinx orientation idea modern popular writers often say one faces east the other faces west okay well that's different that's that's what that's what they would have found so it's possible that they did it in several different ways but often in twos so if they do have one big sphinx and there's another but it's pulling that's pulling that from a facebook post talking about this potential second one oh interesting interesting so my horse shit. Just a grain of salt with it is also. Right. We won't know until they get in there. But if it is there and it's just under sand, that's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 02:18:45 Because they had to uncover this one. How long does it take to excavate these things? It'll take a while. I mean, there's a lot of sand. But it depends on how many workers, how many machines. Also, they have to do it carefully. Oh, my. Because you want to make sure you don't fuck up the sphinx.
Starting point is 02:18:59 But if there is a sphinx under there, that would be fucking nuts. They found a second sphinx and they dug it out. They're like, oh shit. Look at that sphinx. Ooh, tito-age. It's a lady's head. With one today. The nurturer.
Starting point is 02:19:13 That's weird. What a weird head? Like, it's got pointy years, right? Are those ears pointy, or is that just where the hair goes? How weird. Fail. Well, maybe it was a chick. And they're like, nah, I'm making my face.
Starting point is 02:19:25 Except one big big breast. Yeah, one hard one. The fucking arm is jacked. Yeah, I don't like it. A little too much. Yeah. I mean, take it down a nice. You call three breasts if you want.
Starting point is 02:19:37 Yeah. And it weird that we like two, but we don't like three. Yeah, now three is gross. Because it's weird, that middle part. You don't, you want the separation natural. You don't want like a third's, it's like a fucking weird ornamental. You know how hot a girl would have to be to pull off a third tit? It'd be like, I think I like it.
Starting point is 02:19:54 I didn't like it when I first met her, but now I really liked it. Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? We're in the future, total recall? But if it was normal to have three boobs, that's what we would like. that's what's weird.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Like the female shape, the desired female shape, like the fertility doll shape, it's very weird how that could have been a bunch of different shapes. Like for an aunt, it's something little honey on its ass. Exactly. But this is also a thing. Why are we so obsessed with ass?
Starting point is 02:20:21 I don't know. I am obsessed with an ass, and shit comes from it. Like you shit horrible things from your ass, but yet I love looking at that ass. People are complex. And I dream of biting that ass. Like why when I know fecal comes from it.
Starting point is 02:20:37 People are confusing. We're confusing to each other. I'm confused that myself. You should be. I really am. But I love myself. Mike Tyson told me to never speak bad about myself because my subconscious doesn't,
Starting point is 02:20:52 my subconscious doesn't know whether I'm joking or not. Right. Ooh, that's wise. I think he heard that from fucking Bruce Lee, though. I'm not going to lie. I heard Bruce Lee say that out some shit recently. I was like, damn, Mike. And then I heard Bruce Lee say.
Starting point is 02:21:04 There's something true to that, for sure. There's no doubt. No doubt. Yeah. You know, I always call myself a jerk or a schmuck. I'm not. What's this, Jamie? I'm looking at the oldest known pictures of the Sphinx.
Starting point is 02:21:15 This is the oldest stone? So part of it's still underground. Summer on 1850 to 1860. Wow. I'm trying to find a year on the... This was 1892. That's nuts. It looks so strange.
Starting point is 02:21:27 The whole thing is so strange, man. That place is so old. Just even if you just go by what they think, which is 4,500 years ago they built this thing. That's so crazy. That's so fucking fucking fucking fucking Riko Verhoeven and who else fight there, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:47 And Usik and fucking Verhoeven fight there. That's nuts. That's kind of bugged out. It is kind of bugged out. But I like the idea of using the backdrop. No, the natural arenas. Natural Wonders Arena. We should have it in Rome.
Starting point is 02:22:02 We should have it, you know. By the way, it's hot. as fuck out there. It's... And the sandstorms. How's this gonna work? What are they gonna do? How's this gonna work?
Starting point is 02:22:10 Right, what if there's a fucking sandstorm in the middle of the fight and they get sanded their eyes? They're swinging blind. They fucking try to do it in Times Square. It was a mess. Yeah, that didn't work out so well. The fights weren't that good either.
Starting point is 02:22:20 Except Tiafimo. Teufimo fought really well. You gotta have... You gotta bring the right people. Yeah, someone was saying that it's almost like they're paying them so much. These guys are scared to lose. That they're, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:22:33 Like that was the argument about that time square car yeah yeah yeah because the Saudis came in and they just went throwing that rink truck they don't like rap huh they're open the door and they probably do well they haven't hollied at me oh man i don't think i would go there yeah i'd be interested in seeing the middle east i'd be interesting to see it'd be interesting to see all these places man I've been to a lot of places on earth, but never over there. I've been to Dubai briefly for a UFC weigh-in and the UFC, which was in Abu Dhabi. So I've been there for that.
Starting point is 02:23:14 And it was great. That was a long time ago. But obviously it was the best possible conditions. Of course. I'm there with the UFC. Staying in a nice hotel. A lot of money over there, man. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Like when you're in Dubai, and this was quite a while ago. So Dubai is even crazier now. I mean, the construction there is just nuts. It's just so fucking, like, high-tech and everything's beautiful and no crime. Looks like it seems like a great place to be. Yeah, I know people that have moved to Dubai just because there's no crime. Yeah, but there's no hash either. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:23:48 There's hash, but they're not letting you smoke it. Bro, you get caught with that. You go to jail forever. Bro, they're the ones who've been making it for fucking millions of years. What the hell? I know, not crazy. What are they doing? They're keeping it for themselves.
Starting point is 02:23:58 I wonder why they make it so. illegal over there. It doesn't make sense. Yeah. You know, because if they didn't, I wonder if they're just worried about like people behaving foolishly because they don't have any tolerance for fucking around over there. Well, you fucking see Amsterdam. That place is a goddamn mess when it comes to weed. Even since they made weed legal in America in some places, it's a fucking, it's a, it's a carnival. It's terrible. Amsterdam is? Huh? Amsterdam is? No, no, no. Just places in America also. Like New York, now that weed is legal, it's disgraceful. In what way?
Starting point is 02:24:31 Just the culture, like people smoking weed and fucking in the street, like... Openly. Not just openly, but like obnoxiously. Like, everything is obnoxious. Like, weed smoke everywhere. It's not just that, it's just the way it's done is obnoxious. It's just like... I'd like, we can finally do it legally.
Starting point is 02:24:48 Yeah, let's fucking go. Let's be real stupid about it. Do you think that that'll eventually settle down and this is just because it's a new thing that's legal? Probably. I think so. And it's really not even the people who are like, you know it's not like I'm a connoisseur of smoking weed
Starting point is 02:25:06 but I kind of am and I like to do it in a certain way but I'm not judging how anyone else does it but I feel like my way is best I hear what you're saying nice and chill chilling in the crib you don't want to annoy other people with it that's the problem not having to be like old school
Starting point is 02:25:21 back in the day I used to come into class smelling like the most weed that I possibly could because that was what I was trying to exude I was trying to be cool Come in smelling like the sour You have your friends blowing on you Oh my God Bro you go in
Starting point is 02:25:36 And you're like Woo who's fucking smell That was like some rush Being in class And that happened And you're all stoned and shit In the bag Yeah
Starting point is 02:25:45 Yeah It worked out for you It did A lot of people probably thought It wouldn't though right There's no doubt about it Right Are you kidding me
Starting point is 02:25:51 Yeah I've been sold short My whole life It'd be funny too Those people People that had a bad opinion of it back then and they look at you now, I'm like, boy, did I call that one wrong.
Starting point is 02:26:01 Just in general, man, like, I did all right. I did all right. I've been reflecting a lot under the stars and in nature. Well, I'm just happy. When you're overlanding? Yeah, because when I'm not overlanding, now I'm camping. Oh. Now I'm camped.
Starting point is 02:26:18 Stay. Now I'm at camp, base camp. Stay on ground. Yeah, I'm grounding. Take my shoes off. Feel the grass. Dude, I went down a crazy space rabbit hole last night. I was going down this rabbit hole of black holes.
Starting point is 02:26:35 And you remember, Jamie, I told you about that black hole that they found that's as big as our galaxy. Yeah. Not our galaxy, excuse me, our solar system. They found a black hole that is so big that it's like it's bigger than from here all the way to Pluto. Well, they found one now that's bigger than our galaxy. They found a black hole that's larger than the, I think it's called Phoenix A. See if we can find the Phoenix A black hole. If it's larger than the galaxy, there's really no measurement of what this is.
Starting point is 02:27:08 To even think about you saying, yo, it's bigger than our galaxy. What the fuck does that mean? What the fuck does that mean? The way this person in this video was explaining it, it's so insane because the amount of time that it would take for a black hole to suck in that much matter to become that massive, there's not enough time since the birth of the universe. So they're confused as to how it's formed. They're like, well, maybe we're wrong about how these things are formed. It's roughly 100 times larger than the distance between the Sun and Pluto, with a diameter of roughly 590 billion kilometers.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Unlike many supermassive black holes that inhibit star formation, Phoenix A is currently in a phase of rapid growth, consuming enough matter to grow about 60 solar masses per year. activity drives high rates of star formation in its surrounding galaxy. Fuck. Is there any way to diagnose this black hole from here? Can we see it through any telescope, any high-powered thing? They detected it, but I don't understand how they detect it.
Starting point is 02:28:11 But any of them? Can we see any of them in real time? You can't really see a black hole. What you see is everything around the black hole getting sucked into it. Yeah, well, you see some sort of weird movement, no? Right. Right. I saw this.
Starting point is 02:28:23 I thought you were headed towards this. I saw this within the last couple. couple days. And Tom Petrov? No, no. The Milky Way lives in this thing called a void that is like a black hole, but it's like two billion light years across. And we're in the middle of it. What? Like, look at that picture as like a, you know, example of what that would be. Wow. There's nothing else around us. That's perfect placement. So is that circle supposed to be the Milky Way? Yeah, that would be the Milky Way. That's the galaxy. And then there's a billion light years to need direction. That graphic. Again, it's like not the best Earth is in the Milky Way, so it's showing you that. Okay, so the Milky Way is just in the center of a void. Is that uncommon? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:29:07 That's the thing. It's like, are all these galaxies in the center of a void? But just the idea that there's a supermassive black hole out there that's a hundred times more massive massive or a hundred times larger than the distance between Earth and Pluto. Like, what? What is? What? This is why we have.
Starting point is 02:29:25 to be smoking weed in front of a green screen talking about this and having weird people come on and comment. Do you, have you been paying attention to this news about these UFO researchers and scientists that are going missing? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think of that? Don't, listen, don't top doctors go missing.
Starting point is 02:29:45 Don't top physicists go missing. Don't fucking ashton. All these fucking people who are in. Facts. You know? Power positions. Not even, just position of high intelligence. knowledge.
Starting point is 02:29:56 Yeah. They go by, the best heart surgeons on earth. Seven of them were on the same fucking plane that went down.
Starting point is 02:30:02 What do you know? Yeah. The best, whatever, whatever. They just found the cure for cancer. These ten doctors, they're on a PJ to fucking,
Starting point is 02:30:10 who the hell knows where and they go down. Jesse wrote a good write-up about them all that I think explains the angle we would prefer to hear about, you know, like conspiracies
Starting point is 02:30:19 and UFOs and stuff. So he thinks it's a conspiracy? No, he's laying out the possibility of being against correct and at least from that angle it's just crazy that all these top
Starting point is 02:30:29 doctors and top things and physicists and just like these people just disappear one of them was a general who's also he's the general's no shit he's the key because he was in charge of I think the UFO program right if there is one
Starting point is 02:30:43 if there is one but if you did didn't he just leave the house with just a gun I don't yeah it's on the screen what he left with he took a red backpack, his wallet, and a 38 caliber revolver. He left behind his phone.
Starting point is 02:30:59 He left behind his phone. His wife reported him missing within three hours, despite FBI involvement, Air Force Office of Special Investigation, Search dogs, drones, helicopters, horseback teams, fleers, sweeps, and 700 canvas households. No confirmed sightings of McCassland has ever surfaced. Surveillance cameras covered both ends of his street. None captured his direction of travel after weeks of searching the only item returned recovered was a gray Air Force sweatshirt a mile east of his house.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Tested could not confirm it was his. So he was the first one to disappear and then the story. He had no DNA? No hair came off? He was the first one to disappear and then another one disappeared and they're like, they actually might have worked together and then like every other day it's like, now another one and another one and another one. Also, if you knew something that the whole world didn't know,
Starting point is 02:31:50 look, if you knew the human race was just a bunch of soul containers for some super advanced alien race that just uses us as a farm. Yeah, here's why. What's the purpose? His name pops up is because his name was in the job. We're all just an empty body with fucking aliens hosting us. Hacked emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman,
Starting point is 02:32:08 John Podesta revealed correspondence from Tom DeLong, naming McCaslin directly. Delonge? I'm saying it wrong, right? No, Tom DeLong. DeLong. DeLong wrote that McCasland helped assemble his advisory team, was deeply aware what DeLong was trying to achieve,
Starting point is 02:32:26 had received a four-hour briefing on the project. DeLong added that McCasteland ran the laboratory at Wright-Patterson where the Roswell material was shipped. But that's all speculation. What's the part? The Roswell material. I keep talking about Roswell and this and that. There's so much.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Why is it always like focused on that shit? We don't have headphones on. Say it again? He did run. It was in charge of it. the Air Force lab at Wright Pat. That's why it's linked to the Roswell material. That could be the...
Starting point is 02:32:58 The Ronald Tio could be the part you put in parentheses, but he did run that lab. It's all very interesting because that is... The lore was that that's where the wreckage was shipped. But... And then the one we talked about yesterday, Monica Reza, I looked her up. She is known for being on a patent of some super metal alloy.
Starting point is 02:33:19 I was looking that up yesterday. That doesn't mean anything specifically. This is the lady that vanished. Right. She was the lady that was hiking. Her friend turned around, saw her, kept hiking, said something to her, kept hiking, turned around a little while later and she was gone. No one ever found her.
Starting point is 02:33:34 Co-invented an alloy called Mondoloy, which is used in rocket engines currently. Dun, done, done. Come on. And maybe working on some new shit. Uh-huh. Maybe. I mean, those people who got those patents through all those metal, like, the fucking guy who got the patent to the clip that turned.
Starting point is 02:33:53 the gun into an automatic or the... Mm-hmm. That's that shit. Right. Those little components turn bigger things into like super situations. Well, this is like a crazy alloy for spaceships. Yeah, but it's kind of weird that. Of course.
Starting point is 02:34:09 But it's kind of weird that that lady is a lady that goes missing. So if you were a competitor country, I could see why you'd want to take out one of those scientists, you know? Definitely. If you were involved in another industry that might be harmed by her work, like if her work would make your work obsolete, you might want to get rid of her. Get rid of her. That's right. Look, that's always happened.
Starting point is 02:34:33 People have always done that. You can't take it out of the equation. You've got to thoroughly investigate. This is, it's a story as old as time. It is, right? You get rid of one person and the next one comes in. If they're threatening to you, they go bye-bye. Especially in big business
Starting point is 02:34:49 Like rocket engines and alloys and space travel And something as small as fucking numbers betting They kill you for betting numbers You're not going to kill you for that Truth Nothing but truth man Well listen brother Thanks for being here
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Starting point is 02:35:51 kick it, talk some fucking fights. Anytime, sir. Yeah. Anytime. That's it. It's always fun to hang with you. You too, bro. Come on, brother. Like I said, I don't give a fuck about my album. Fuck that shit. Fuck everything else. I'm here for a good time. Well, it was a good time. Thank you. Appreciate you always. All right. All right. Bye, everybody.

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