The Joe Rogan Experience - #2490 - RZA

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

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Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. We're up. So the guy that did your bar, Flying Gillotine, is the same guy that did the mothership. Oh, wow. Richard Weiss. Yeah, Richard, good.

Yeah, Richard, the same designer architect who did your bar. I have a flying guillotine t-shirt that I wear it sometimes. I was trying to find it this morning. I couldn't fucking find it. I wore mine yesterday. I went to the Animal Draft House. did a screening of the film, and I said, would it be appropriate to wear my Staten Island

out of the draft house to them? And the guy there, he was like, he wanted to wear his, because he stole a stack from Staten Island, but he couldn't find them on. I've got it somewhere. I've got it somewhere in my house, and I was scrambling this morning looking for it, looking for that T-shirt, couldn't find it.

Well, we got to send you some more. Definitely, definitely. So it's great to see you again, man. Back at you, man. Back at you, just, I got questions for you. What are you? Well, I was thinking, like, well,

remember you had this place in Woodland Hills. Yes. That was, what, eight years now? We've been out here for six, six years. So about six years ago. Yeah, you were there, like eight years ago, I think. Yeah. And I just remember you having, like, the hyperbolic.

Hyperbaric chamber? Yeah, the hyperbatic chamber. Do you still, are you still? Yeah. Was that what it was, or was it the sensitivity? through deprivation tank. Oh, the one when you float. Yeah.

Is that that, because we had that at the studio. Okay. We didn't have a hyperbaric at the studio. Okay, so I do have a hyperbaric. You have that now here? Yeah, not here. I have it at my house. Yeah.

I just was always impressed at just your consciousness on things that's unique, right? And I just, you know, and as time goes on sometime, you know, as we evolve, whether we evolve in physically, mentally, spiritually or economically, sometimes we

leave certain things behind. Right. And I was, I wonder if Joe keep moving his chi in the same direction. So that's my question to you. Well, sometimes it gets caught up in momentum and you got to step back and just realign yourself. That's definitely a factor. Like sometimes I'm too busy and I get too caught up in momentum of things and you kind

of like lose like, why am I doing this? Like what is the, what's the process? Like what is the reason for you? for doing all this. But vacation always fixes that. Like, take a few days off, you go, okay. Right, we can enjoy it.

Yeah. I feel the same. To be honest, I've been running around for like, I don't know, for like eight days straight. And I like to kind of make sure I exercise, do my Tai Chi or something, or stretch my body. But I was telling my wife last night,

like, yo, I haven't worked out since we've been moving. But I've been drinking every night. I mean, so today this morning, before I came here, I got up a little bit earlier, and I went and stretched and got all that out. And that's what made this question come to my head. It was like, I wonder, like, as we grow and we become more and more involved and we get in whatever it is in life that's given us, how we get in these blessings, but how far do we get away from the blessings that kind of made us solid?

You know what I mean? Yeah. I try not to get as far. I try to stay as close as possible. to like centering my body. Like if I don't work out, like just a couple days in a row, I start feeling weird. Right.

Just two days. Right. Two days I just start feeling like crack, crack, crack, crack, crack. I feel antsy. I feel irritated. Just I don't think I'm thinking clear. I don't feel relaxed. I think I'm the same.

Maybe for me it's three and a half days. Well, what drives me nuts is like how many people out there, that's their whole life? There's no exercise in their life. Like, my God, you're doing yourself such a disservice. Yeah. You're not a, your mind, not just your body, but your mind needs that. You need to blow out some steam and run the machine and stretch it out and relax it afterwards and re-center yourself.

And if you don't do that, you're going to be anxious. So many people are dealing with like constant crippling anxiety all the time. And how many of those people don't exercise? Right. I think that in Shaolin philosophy, we, um, You know, there's chi gung, right? And there's the chi travels through your blood. So you've got to always continue to have the blood moving.

Because the blood is the supply you have, but the oxygen, you know, gets in and oxidates it and just keeps it flowing. And when you do stretching or you do exercises or you build up your respiration, it actually energizes the blood, which energizes every part of your body. That chi travels through every vessel. every meridian of your body and it actually does enhance you and re-vigorate you. 100%. Fires up your endorphins, fires up your endocrine system,

everything just feels better. And it calms you down. I feel like human beings are almost like batteries. Like you're storing energy all the time. But if you've got too much energy, it's leaking out of the battery. You're not purging some of it. You got a purr, you got to, your body has like human requirements for movement.

Right. And if you don't, if you don't use those requirements, if you don't meet those requirements, you're just going to feel like shit. And I think that's a big part of what's wrong with society today. There's just way too many people that aren't doing that. And they're just tense. And they're tense, anxious feeling that, and the mental health problems that come with that. It just spills over into everything else. Right.

I got to agree with you. And I know that people that, like my Cifu Shi and Ming, who he probably works out like six times a day because he has to train, he has individual clients. Right, right, right. But I think Cifu is maybe 10 years, 10 years older than me. Look, 10 years younger than me. Right, of course.

You know what I mean? Because he's just constantly moving at Chi and exercising. He still could kiss his toes in his 60s. Wow. babies could do that, right? Right. He still could kiss his toes like a baby. But he said something to me that I took just heed to for myself.

I said, Seifu, why do you work out so much, right? He gave me two answers. He says, one, it feels good. It makes me feel so good. But then the other answer he gave me was that because in Shaolin, when you get up in the morning, you have to exercise, run up a mountain, run back down the mountain

do chores and all that before you eat and it's if you don't do that you don't eat and so I was like well that sounds like something from the Bible where it says that man should work to the sweat of his brow you know what I mean

and I took that philosophy so I don't normally eat in the morning I would normally get up I mean I drink coffee now so I've been drinking coffee about 10 years I think but I will have some coffee some water and Bama Lama. I get into my exercise routine.

When I'm home. I think that's the best way to start the day. Yeah, I do the same. I don't work out. I don't eat rather before I work out. Right. I always work out first. Right.

So, because then the water is fresher. The food tastes better. Yeah. You earned it too. Exactly. Yeah. It's just a good way to start the day, too. You already did the hard part.

The most difficult part of your day is done. Right. And then everything else. And also, like, that difficult thing makes the men difficulty the rest of the day work smoother. Yeah, you ever, remember that old commercial, the Army commercial? Which one?

It was like, we do by 6 a.m. Some shit like, we do for 6 a.m. What most people do all day. Yeah. It's like, back when you first, you know, when I saw an hour as young, I was like, I don't know the fuck they're talking about. But as a man, I'm like, you know, that's wisdom.

Get up in the morning, get your chi going and have a beautiful day. There's something, too, to getting up early. where you force yourself to work. You force yourself to rise. The comfort of your bed calls you, but you go, fuck you. You get up, you get shit done, and you're like, I already won.

I won today. I've got a victory. I've got a victory over my inner bitch. You know, I got out there, I did something. I'm laughing. No, because you say you told the bed, fuck you. Yeah, that's what you have to say.

You have to get up almost angry. Fuck you. No, you're not going to call me in there with your octopus tentacles and suck me into your depths. Your depths of warmth and comfort No, fuck you Get up

Get up, get going That's why I like to get in the cold First thing That's my morning routine Is cold plunge before I work out Indeed Yeah I can't do that

Now that is That's kind of extreme for me I'm not fucking with the cold like that You get used to it I'm telling you You get used to it It becomes like a normal thing How long you stay in the room?

Three minutes Wow It sucks But every time I do it I almost don't do it. Every time I do it, I'm almost like, don't do this. I don't want to do this. Fuck this.

And then I get in like, oh, we're doing it. We're doing it. And then I take my phone and I set, I got a little kickstand on the back of my phone, you know. So I put the timer on there and I look at it. It's all like, it's out of a minute. So I'm like, all right, we're good. We're past the minute. Once you get past the minute.

The minute mark is the tough part. Once you pass the minute, it's pretty easy to get to three minutes. You just relax. I only did one ice bath. And it was, they had, bought this Tibetan Lama to New York. And with me, I forgot the brother name. We was doing this TV show thing.

And they were trying to find out, they were scanning our brains and see what would happen if we got in the cold bath before meditating, then meditated, and then get back in. So whatever. But some science, and I said, yeah, I'll do it. I don't know why I agreed to it, but I did it. Right? But I got in that motherfucker, bro.

And when I got in there, I was like, this is not the shit. I'm like this. And the host, he got in, too. Now, I don't know if that was his first time or not. But he was younger than me, skinnier than me. You know what I mean? And when I couldn't take it no more, around one minute and whatever, it was past the minute mark.

I got the fuck out, but he was still in there. And I was like, I can't have this motherfucker beat me. And yo, I got back in. Nice. You know what I mean? And they got some footage of that. I think I stayed in, I don't think it was three minutes, but I think I really impressed myself

because I'm super anti-cold. You know what I mean? I run hot, I stay hot, I'm the hot part of the getting, you know, when my wife is cold, she just put her hand on me, and I'm the heater. So cold is like something that, um... Yeah, I don't love it. I like it. Right.

I don't enjoy it. But there's a little mind game that goes on. And the mind game is almost immediately like, oh fuck this. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. You got to ignore that and just concentrate on breathing. So what I do is I breathe to a count of 10. So I do this one, two, three, and I just concentrate on the numbers.

And then by the time I get to 10, it's basically like a minute. And I'm relaxed. And then I just settle in there. It's just you concentrate on breathing and don't think about that party that wants to get out. Right. So, I think I'm going to try a cold shower. It's really good. Cold shower in New York is great if you, like, in the winter, because that's real cold.

That's real cold. That's like, I used to take cold showers. My friend Bob Caffarela, he used to do this at our Taekwondo school. He would take cold showers after training. And I was like, that guy is a fucking animal. And I tried it a couple of times. I was a bitch. I did it like 15 seconds and jumped out. But he would just stay there and lay in the cold, freezing cold winter, cold water and just wash himself.

And I was like, this guy's an animal, man. I think my brother Kung Lee, I haven't seen Kung Lee in years. Kung Lee, the fighter? Yeah. Yeah. I remember we was, because we did a movie years ago in China, but he was the cold plunger of the crew. Oh, yeah. He's ahead of the curve on all that shit.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's the mental thing is where it really where it benefits you. And not just while you're in it, like doing it because you don't want to do it. But when you get out, you feel so good. Your brain just is flooded with all these endorphins. Right. You feel so good. And it lasts for hours and hours. I'm going to revisit that. I think there's like, there's numbers on the dopamine increase, but I forget what they are off the top of my head. But there's a giant increase in dopamine that lasts. like two to three hours after you're getting out of the cold plunge. Wow, I didn't know that. I don't know that. But I know you're a long-time martial arts student,

and I think anybody that does martial arts for a long time realizes that it is as much for your mind as it is for anything else. Yes. Like, it's not just a workout. It's a workout, but it's also like there's something about going through the motions of martial arts and training in martial arts. It's so, it's, it requires so much concentration. and it requires so much of your focus that the rest of the world just kind of fades away and the impact of it is relaxed.

Right. Because of that. It's mental, physical, and spiritual. Yeah. It's emotional. Yeah. It's will. You know, there's an esoteric thing.

You know, seven planes of energies or five stages of consciousness. I don't know if you ever came across these type of terms, but probably have. But sometimes we get stuck on just the three dimensions, you know what I mean, just three planes, you know, and you don't get to the emotional, you don't get to the will part of it,

you don't get to the realization, the control, right? If you could get to realization, then you can control what's going on because you realize what it is. It's almost like you can now have the foresight of what it is. And then if you could get to that type of plane of energy, the impossibilities become infinite because you realize

that you like they say we all have a free will right but then you realize that the will can be controlled right you also realize that with a strong will you can control others as well because some people are walking around

with weak wills that's how you start a cult oh by by having the strongest will and you come there Yeah, hold on. I do have a film and shit, right? I quote one spoon of chocolate.

And I watched half of it. I had a problem. There was a problem with the early screener. I was mirroring it on my television, and it kept breaking up. It kept fucking up, where, like, the sound would cut in and cut out. And I did it a couple of times, and then the screener ran out,

because I guess you only watched it a few times. So then I had to contact. your people and then they gave me another one but then they gave me one on Vimeo and I watched that in the gym today so I watched the first half of the movie and I'm gonna watch the second half of the home okay take your time take your time it's a crazy one it's a fun watch it's a lot of ways but you did it

with Tarantino yes yes yes and it seems like yeah it's got a kind of flavor to it but I was I bought it up just to say that there's a there's a character who actually takes ice plunges right yes and the bad guy yeah the villain yeah So you're talking about Colts and things. In the way, there's a scene where when we introduce him, you could tell that everybody else there are bending to his will.

Right. He shows him how to do this and, you know, you do this and you do that. And then there's the fucking, I guess, the weak will guy. And he's like, and that's why Jimmy's the fucking king, man. I laughed at that. Exactly, exactly. So that's the point I'm making this. that so will can control, you know what I mean?

Yeah. But if you realize yourself and have that self-realization, self-actualization, you gain control over yourself, you know what I mean, and control your planes and energy. So we're talking about martial arts. And martial arts helped you achieve that goal. Yeah, my instructor used to say that martial arts are a vehicle for developing your human potential.

Mm-hmm. I like that. That it's so difficult that in learning how to, get, I don't like the term mastery because I don't think you ever really master martial arts, but in learning martial arts, the difficulty that's involved in that it expands your potential and everything that you do. I agree. And for me, I actually, you know, I always tell people on a physical level.

I don't know if I'm good or not, to be honest. You know what I mean? It took up some hunger and Shaolin, of course, a little bit of Wing Chun here and there. But I don't claim to be like a martial art fighter. But I will claim to be a martial artist because of the mind. Because the way I think, the way it allowed me to think, you know, it's like I have probably 20 books on Tai Chi and I read them. And so I understand it, the application of it.

Like there's a meditation called the eight pieces of brocade. You ever come across that one? No. So it's... What's the word brocade? Yeah, brocade. meaning blockage. Oh, okay.

So it's eight ways to unblock yourself, like to unblock your chi. One of the first ones, of course, you sit in Lotus, and you just take your thumbs and you bang on the back of your, basically your medulla obglanta. Like, even if you could touch this real quick, if you don't mind. Back of your head? Yeah, right here. Okay. You see how loud that is?

Yeah. Right? So you cover your ears and you bang on those drums first thing in the morning. Oh. Exactly. And it opens up. some of your chakras. Ooh.

So. That feels weird. Because it's loud. It's loud as it could be, right? Yeah. The point being made by studying all these different books is like the physical part, of course, is exciting. But to me, the mental part is even, became more exciting.

The more that I can apply. Therefore, I can apply it to my music. I can apply it to business. I can apply it to how to be a, a better father and all those things, versus me just punching and trying to break a brick. You know what I mean? Right, right, right.

Yeah, I mean, that's Tai Chi, right? It's all mental. That Tai Chi is a martial arts sort of. I mean, I guess, like, you would learn how to move your body better that could kind of help you applied in a self-defense situation. But it's much more of a mental martial art. And I used to, when I lived in San Francisco, I used to watch people in the park.

These old Chinese people would go out there and practice. Right. Just Tai Chi, I was like, what are they doing? I was a kid. I was, you know, I was eight. I was dumb. I was like, what is the purpose of doing this all day? Right.

And then once you do it a few times, you're like, oh, this is not easy to do. Right. And then in doing that, it cleans your mind of everything else that's going on because all you're concentrating on is these movements. He's very difficult. They're not stupid. Like, they've been doing this for thousands of years for a reason because it helps them.

Well, the crazy thing about Tai Chi, give you a little information about it that you may or may not know, but the idea with Tai Chi is that if you master it or if you have that control over it, you should be able to move 1,000 pounds with just four ounces of energy. So the idea of them pushing constantly

means there's something that ever came to them. They pushed that aside without even thinking about it, right? Because just four ounces of energy can divert. It's almost like tripping a giant. I think it's great on paper. An actual giant.

I don't care how much Tai Chi, you know, a dude who's like a 300-pound All-American wrestler. He comes charging out. You ain't going to use four ounces of energy and divert him. Well, I'm going to argue that, right? The four ounces you use is just step to the side. Yeah, everybody who says that, step to the side. It ain't easy, of course.

It doesn't work. It doesn't work. They grab you. Right. You're not getting up. But then another, well, I mean, A fight is a fight. That's a difference between a martial and a fight, right? Well, it's also just the reality of physics.

Right. You know, I mean, it's one thing if you're doing that to an unskilled person, but to a skilled person, really you need to know the skill that they're applying. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's the difference between, like, someone who's practicing something that is great in theory. But, I mean, it's not just in theory. like physically and mentally it's great for you but it's just it's not the right application in terms of actual hand-to-hand combat yeah I mean a fight is a fight I don't care um I mean in my opinion a fight is a fight I don't care which I don't care you know if you're the best boxer in

the world that knock motherfuckers out like like like one of our greatest fighters Mike Tyson who wasn't just that he was a fighter he was a fighter he was a fighter Right? Of course he had a skill set and he was a well trained. But in the peak of his fights, I don't care how much somebody else trained, when he got in the ring to fight, they weren't better fighters. They could have been better boxers, better athletes, better whatever. So I think a fight, and this is my opinion, it's an instinct. It's a, you know, like when Mike bit his ear,

Mm-hmm, right? Right. That's a fight. That has nothing to do with boxing. I think that was frustration, you know, unfortunately. You know, that was Avander was beating him up. Yeah. And I don't think he liked it.

Avanda was beating him up professionally, skillfully, and boxing. But then Mike went to fighting. Yeah. And fighting, like in M&A, you can't bite in MMM. You can't bite in no sport, right? Yeah. You ain't supposed to hit the nun. You need to pose to.

I know, which is crazy because in a fight, the nuts are one of the best spots to hit. Exactly. In the eyes. You need to pose to poke the eyes. My friend Eddie had an idea for a comedy sketch called Ultimate Sack Fighting, whereas just dudes are just the nuts are the only target. It's amazing how vulnerable we really are. Our balls just sitting on the outside like that. Yeah, fights, you poke in the eye.

I mean, you poke in the eye in an MMA fight, the referee stops the time, and you get a point deducted. But it's a very good technique in an actual fight. Yeah. Well, that's what I meant by saying, like, so you could train and train and train. But when it's life against life or death, it's a whole other chamber of fighting for survival, you know what I mean? There's some horrible videos of no rules fights. Or they have these no rules fights in Russia and a bunch of other places. But they do them outside in a field, and these guys fight.

and this wrestler gets this guy down and he just shoves his thumbs and his eyeballs. He gets on top of him and he just grabs his face and shoves and the guy's just screaming and he's trying to move his head away and he taps his blood all over his eyeballs. Party over. Party's over.

Yeah. You realize like how devastating that is, like the pain and just the... And you know what so crazy? The person who did it, like the... Maybe the guy who got the chance to do it, it's not easy. And tell me if you agree with this,

you could disagree. but it's not easy to do that either. No. I don't mean not easy that you can't do it. It's not easy for your spirit to do it. Right. You see what I mean? It's evil.

Yeah. So that's a whole other chamber. It's like, yo, will you do it? Will you blind a man? Yeah, will you do it, right? And it's like, maybe you won't. And but if he will and you won't. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's what I, that's when my seafood says that about, Because he doesn't train nobody how to fight. He said, I can't teach nobody how to fight. You know what I mean? I can teach you how to build your body, how to build your chi, how to build some strength. But a fight, bro, it's different.

There's no rules. It's life and death. It's like, and your will, going back to the will, we talked about, your willpower has better be strong to survive. I love what Bruce Lee said. He practiced the art of not fighting. You know what I mean? And I told that to my son, I was like, yo, bro, listen, if you can run, bro, run.

Yeah. I mean, be up out of there. And motherfuckeruck chase you, you know, you got to go to, you got to think on something. But if you could just, yo, that's right now. Oh, yo, you know what, Joe, you want to fight? Oh, yo, you know what, Joe? I see you later, bro. You know what I mean?

I know. I know. There's too many people that get into fights for no reason and then you wind up changing the rest of your life. You got a scar that's going to be with you forever or you accidentally kill somebody. it's stupid. It's a stupid thing to do. And there's so many men that feel like they just have to prove themselves, which is what a gym is for. Go to the gym. Go to the gym. Work out with other fighters. Train, get beat up, realize where you're at, get a realistic sense of your actual ability and then improve upon them. But don't go getting in street fights. Please, God, don't do it. Don't do it.

And for me, I put all my aggression and all my energy into my art. You know, you think about, some of my early songs, you know, Wayne the motherfucking rockers, bro, that was, that was like, I used to have,

I had a, I had like a, a problem of, I don't know if it was anger management, maybe, but I, but I would just like,

like, I don't know, like I needed to hear the sound of breaking glass. I used to scream, like, Jizzle was like, yo,

this dude. Like, because I was, and I realized that I had so much anger in me, that, you know, I couldn't really get it out. I was kind of hulkish in a way, like Bruce Banner or some shit, right?

But then through music, it started to come out, and it started to come out. And by the time I got to Wu-Tang Forever, a lot of my anger was in the song. If you want beef, then bring the rock is... And, like, all that stage and all that energy. So it really helped me. And then I realized, going to bringing up to a day to my new film, I'm watching it and I'm just like, okay, once again, I took all the anger and I put it into the art.

There's actually a character in the film, his name is Unique. Did you catch that when you saw the piece? Unique is the name of Old Dirty Bastet. His original name was A-Sahn Unique. And so that was my way of giving homage to him by naming the lead character of my new film, Unique. And it says in the film, he says, you got a problem with anger management.

He says, yeah, I'm working on that. And what I love about the art of it is that the problem that he had with anger management was his reaction. Like a lot of us, we just react too much. We react before we think, right? Because they say a man could think seven times before he reacts. That's how fast your mind can move, but we go on that first impulse.

But this character, he keeps, he holds the anger until one morning he's at a veteran home, right? And he's sitting there and he's having breakfast and he has this can, right? You see this thing, right? And he's like, he digs the spoon in there. And it's like fucking there's nothing in it. Like it's not even, it's like one spoon of chocolate in it. And he gets what? Angry.

And he bangs it. Boom. Who the fuck left one spoon of chocolate in the can? But then it took an old man that was settled to tell him one spoon to chocolate. Change a whole glass of milk. It changed a whole glass of milk. And then you notice that character from that. Then he calmed down.

He started reading to the kids. Yeah. So, and that was kind of me taking some of my personality, some of you, some of old dirty's personality. Some of the personalities that I see in my community and putting in into this character, this say like, yo, sometime, yo, calm down, listen to the wisdom of your elders, right? Have you ever, have you ever, in your life, I'm going to ask you, have you ever, like, come across some old person, whether there's a homeless guy, a devoted guy, your uncle, somebody, that you kind of didn't look up to in no way, just kind of enables, but then they say something

to you that's profound and changed your life. Oh man I try to find an example I mean I've definitely gotten a lot of advice from old timers But definitely people Especially people that have done a lot of things You know People that have accomplished things

And made mistakes and recovered from their mistakes Right Yeah I mean I was actually because I was Maybe 11 And there was a Like a dope fiend That was dating my aunt

and he was at the table and shit and he was like nodding but he was kind of in the chamber, bro. You know, you know kids, I'm looking at this guy and shit. And he said something about like, you know, I don't care, man, you got to get knowledge, man, you got to get knowledge, man.

The gods is right, man, you got to get knowledge. I started reading it since that day, bro. Really? Seriously. The dope fiend? Yeah. It inspired you to read. Yeah.

He said, because he said you got to get, what happened was he had knowledge of self, I guess, back before the drugs hit him. And now he's like there. And he was like, he was like, he said, you got to get knowledge. The guards are right. The guards are right.

And so, what was he on? What was the drug of choice? He was on fucking, he shot that shit up. Heroin? Yeah. He was on heroin. That's the old days back when they shoot it. Now everybody's on pills.

Right. Yeah. I never, I don't know about that, John. I don't know about it either. But, I mean, I don't know about it personally, but that's essentially what oxycodone is. All those pain pills that you see, all these people dying of. Right, opioids.

Yeah, opioids, yeah. The number one problem, I mean, I think the deaths in America, it's upwards of 70,000 a year. I know it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Just from overdosing on pills. Yeah, and most of it happened because of the Sackler family. The what?

The Sackler family, this one family that convinced people. that taking these incredibly potent opioids. Did you ever see that Netflix docu-series Pain Killer? I didn't see that. It's really good. It's all about the Sackler family. It's Peter Berg made it. Same guy who made, you know Peter?

I know Peter. He's great. Loan Survivor, made a bunch of excellent movies. He's great. He made this documentary on documenting how, well, it's not a documentary, a docudrama series or recreation, showing how this one family, they wanted to figure out a way where they could sell opioids to everyone.

And the way they did it was like giving people pain management tools, giving people medication that you could be on forever. And they made it and they pushed it through these different doctors and they had all these hot ladies who were representatives of the pharmaceutical drug companies that come to the doctor and they were the reps that would come and sell them. the things. Yeah, I mean, really. And they were all financially incentivized to sell it, and they tried to pretend that it wasn't addictive, and they lied about that. And they got, who knows how many thousands and thousands and thousands of people ruined their lives because of it. And like I said,

70,000 die every year just in America, just from opioids. That's crazy, bro. From overdoses. I mean, and how many more would there be of that if it wasn't for Narcan? That's the, that's the counter, right? Yeah, that's the stuff that the EMTs give you. If they find you overdosing, they give you Narcan and it, it kills it and brings you back to life. And that one family, you know, no one's gone to jail. No one's gone to jail. I mean, I don't even know how much they've been fined.

But if it wasn't for what they did, and again, well documented in that Netflix series, it's horrific, man. It's really terrifying because it's not just the people that died and the people that are addicted. It's all the family members that were affected by them, all the children of those people, and what happened with their lives, all the spouses and the brothers and sisters of those people and what happened with their lives. That's crazy.

When you were saying that my imagery in my head was that scene in American gangster when it was like Thanksgiving, and they showed Frank Lucas at the table with this whole family. They had a nice spread of food. And then the camera went and showed all the families that was hooked on the blue magic drug.

They had like the lady dying over here, the kid looking at her mother dead. So the difference, I guess, that's the image that came in my head when you sat there, but I guess the difference is in that particular case, somebody goes to jail and pays the price for the crime, but in this particular case, you're saying that nobody went to jail. They did it legally, somehow or another.

They pimped it out. and then sold it to everybody legally. I mean, it's sick. They're the biggest drug dealers that have ever existed. Fuck all these street drug dealers. I mean, these guys killed 70,000 people a year. Who knows how many years? And it was probably more than that before they figured out an arcan.

And part of it is also because people get addicted to it and then they get stuff from the cartel that has fentanyl in it, and that's why they're dying. But there's a bunch of people that just died from straight up overdose of opioids, too. It's terrifying. And it's over-the-counter? Yeah, no, it's not over-the-counter. You have to get prescribed, but doctors are happy to prescribe it for you.

I got my nose fixed. I had a deviated septum, and they cleaned it out. And I was leaving the doctor's office, and he gave me two prescriptions for opioids. And I said, but I'm not in pain. He goes, but you probably will be. And I go, but is it going to be worse than this right now? Like, we're just out of the operation. My nose was, I have like these things.

things stuffed up your nose to keep your nostrils open. And I was like, are you sure? It's going to be worse than this? And he gave me two prescriptions. And I went home and I was like, I don't need these. Like, I didn't fill them. But I'm like, this is not, but this guy was giving me two different opioids to take. You would have been, he would have had, you would have went back.

I probably would have been hooked. Yeah, you would have been back. I know a lot of people that got hooked, man. I'm not, I'm under no illusion that I'm stronger than those people that I would have figured out a way to not get hooked. Right. So many people that I know got hooked. So you're saying like, let me just go back on this,

because I actually don't take nothing, bro. Like, I drink tea or, you know, I'm very, I mean, I do pump an asthma inhaler. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Other than that, I don't really take no Tylenol or nothing, bro. Yeah. Fuck all that stuff. But you're saying, though, at the end of the day, just taking back. throwing this back at you, the doctor basically Sling gave you some free shit to kind of have you as a customer. Because when Crack came out, I think he's financially incentivized.

I think they're financially incentivized to prescribe you this medicine. Because he didn't say, if you're in pain, contact me and I'll fill you a prescription. Because it's just my nose, man. It's just the nose. It's not that big a deal. Like, I slept fine. It was nothing. That's crazy.

And I try to tell him, I'm like, I don't understand. I don't understand why you're giving me. We had a conversation, I go, is it going to be worse than it is right now? Like, right now I'm not in any pain. He goes, it could probably get worse. I'm like, how much worse? Because right now I don't feel anything. It's like nothing.

It's like mildly uncomfortable because I have these tubes stuffed up my nose. Right. But this is not, this doesn't require heroin. This is crazy. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing. But it is kind of nuts that they're financially incentivized. Let me go back to the film. No, because in the film there's an article that I.

Hero opens up in the paper. It's not the same subject, but it's a medical thing. And it's just like this particular county is leading in this particular process because there's money in it. If it's money, sadly, you know, and that's a movie, And that's a movie, but sadly, if there's money involved, people can become insidious, right? Yeah. People can become like, yeah, you could get strung out.

You could get strung out. I don't sold, you know, I got, I wrote 20 prescriptions this week. And they're not cheap, right? How much is the prescription when you fill it? Is that like 40 bucks or 100 bucks? I don't know. It's not cheap. But more importantly, the doctor gets incentivized.

That's what I made. Some dark shit. I was reading about this doctor that was an oncologist, so he's dealing with cancer patients. And he was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer because it would get him more money.

You kind of fucked me up with that. Yeah, and he kind of hit my emotion because I just lost my brother to cancer, my brother power. Yeah. I'm sorry to hear that. Let's take a moment. I'm sorry to hear that.

Yeah, it's one of the most profitable medications, unfortunately, for physicians. Well, not unfortunate. Look, If it saves your life, that's wonderful. But the reality is this one doctor that I'm discussing, this one doctor decided that he was going to get paid more by just giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer.

So he diagnosed a bunch of people with cancer. They didn't have it. He said, oh, unfortunately you have cancer. The good news is we get you on chemotherapy right away. We think we can kick it. And they were regular people with nothing wrong with them. And this fucking guy gave him poison. You know how much the chemo costs?

It's very expensive. Yeah, it's about 30 to 60 grand a hit. Yeah, I'm not surprised. And the doctors profit off of that. It's one of the most profitable medications the doctors prescribed, unfortunately. That's kind of fucking. And look, most doctors would never fucking imagine doing that in a million years. But this one doctor, like his thought process was, hey, this is how I get paid.

You know, I'm dealing with all this overhead. I'm dealing with all this liability insurance. I'm dealing with medical school bills. I'm dealing with all this. Fuck this. I'm just going to start prescribing a little bit of chemotherapy here and there to people that don't actually have cancer. And I don't know how he got caught. I don't know what happened.

I think it was just. They got him, though. There was some red flag. Yeah, they got him. He's in jail. There was some red flag where they noticed, like, why are so many people getting cancer with this one doctor? Like, why is his number so high? It doesn't, it's not representative of the norm.

Of the percentage that is. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's crazy, bro. But that's what's hard to imagine is that money would incentivize someone to tell a person. Like, how many people just commit suicide because they think they're dying of cancer? And they go, fuck, I'm not on.

I don't want to do this. I don't want to suffer. I'm just going to fucking go out of my own terms, you know. Yeah, well, how many people's lives did that ruin? Well, I don't, well, first of that I was talking about you. I had to kind of emotionally rebound from that because it's just you kind of made me think, Like, you don't know, like, you know, we don't have the answer to shit, you know what I mean, and things happen in life.

And sometimes you just like, you know, but I do have instinct. And I always, you know, I just felt that something wasn't, I don't know, I won't even go there. But you said that money, why would you do it for the money? It's like, yo, everything is for the money, bro. Monefuckers is doing, you know, cash rules, everything around me, well. You know what I mean? Get the money. Yeah.

And people were stuck on that. You know what I mean? The goal, hopefully, because we live in the capitalist society. Well. But the goal should be that cash doesn't rule you. Money shouldn't rule you. Right. We need it.

You know what I mean? You know, food clothing and shelter. You're going to need that. There ain't nothing given here. But it doesn't surprise me, you know, that that's the motivation for insidious behavior, you know. I was, I'm going to go back a little history here. We're working on another project where we tap into, it's kind of fantasy.

I just write off my imagination. But I had this family. They are, their ancestors are from Congo. And in the Congo, they trace their ancestry back to the Leopold Days. and you think about the Leopold days, millions of Africans were mined, chopped off their arms and shit. All because the gag was they wanted them to work

and to get the rubber from the rubber tree. So the rubber at one point became the main gold of the world, right? And King Leopold went over to Congo, and you get Tarzan out of this shit, all right? That's the, that's the fictional. story, but he goes over and I think they said at minimum two million people, but I think it's five million that were just mined or killed just for the economic profit of what those rubber trees was offering to Western civilization.

You know that's happening right now with Cobalt. I had this guy said Darth Kara on the podcast. He wrote a book. Do you remember what the name of that book was? His book on cobalt mining in the Congo. So cobalt is a critical mineral that's used in cell phone batteries. Yeah. And many electronics.

And that is cobalt red. The blood of the Congo powers our lives. It's a very disturbing conversation. And he had, he snuck in cameras and got some footage of these people doing what, you know, you think that this stuff is mined in some sort of. industrial process. Look at this. This is how these people are mining. And you've got women who have babies on their backs. And all this cobalt that they're knocking out of the ground is completely toxic. Some of them just have like a bandana over their mouth that they're using to protect

themselves from it. But look how deep that is with human beings that are just pulling cobalt. They live on dirt floors. They live at the lowest level poverty imaginable. They don't have clean water. They don't have good food, and they are pulling out a mineral that's essential to the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, which is our connectivity through the internet through cell phones. And this is that they, which is kind of crazy if you think of like the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, if you follow it all the way down to the very bottom of the food chain, you've got slave labor. and that's a giant percentage of the cobalt that's in our cell phones and our electronics is coming out of this place. You know, so I never seen that before, bro. A lot of them are run by China.

Yeah, and it's very scary, man. I never seen it, but I wrote a lyric that touches upon it. I never seen those images before. He's got video. See if you can find the video. The video's dark. I think my lyrics said, let's see if I can remember my lyric. It was a song I wrote called The Fate of the World.

is in your hand was me and DJ Scratch and what I I knew that I knew that Colbolt or I knew that they was getting the mineral from Congo

but I didn't know it like that it was something like you know as an artist you're fucking antenna right you get shit but I said something I said I'm trying to remember

the lyric I said it was like hey could you pull up the lyrics to To visit the song that's a The World as well How did you do this? Yeah, play that video real quick

But please Look at this How crazy is this By the way All this Seen almost biblical toil The Prize is Cobalt And here's the thing

All this shit is super toxic So all these people are breathing in This insanely toxic dust And they're knocking it out of the ground With hammers and carrying it off in bags Look at this shit, yo Yeah This is this looks biblical, bro

Right And imagine how fucking heavy these bags are and they're doing this all day long look at these guys struggling to pick those bags up and they're carrying this shit all day long and they're just knocking into the ground trying to pull out this cobalt and the thing is like this is what we need to power our phones which is so crazy if you think about all these people that are virtue signaling about how wonderful and ethical and moral they are they're doing it on a phone that is literally powered by slave labor that's crazy it's crazy yeah And it's crazy that this is going on in 2026,

and most people aren't even aware of it. Well, this is, well, you're back, like I just said, the project I'm working on now, we just talk about it. We're tracing it back to the rubber tree, but it's still going on. Still going on. And that's just cobalt.

There's other stuff that they're mining there, too. It's very similar. There's other, what they call, conflict minerals. Pull up my lyric for The Fate of the World. I just want to just point out what I said. if you got that on genius or something. Here it is. Yeah, it says a thousand years of darkness,

the world got struck with sorrow, hallowed, the name, we need a better tomorrow. Go to the second verse. Let me see. Let me see. Oh, no, wrong song. That's what it is. I got too many songs.

It's called the... You forgot the name of your own song. That's hilarious. Yeah. You got too many. Any songs. Which the other one on that one? Go open that.

No, not that one. Go to the other, what you call it? The other, go to the album title. Yeah, hit the Saturday afternoon. You're going to edit some of this, right? No. You don't edit? Okay, well, we're going, y'all going to bear with us.

Saturday after you, Kung Fu Theater. No, go to the, oh, it's called the Great Fisherman. Let me see the titles of the songs. Fishermen. Fishermen. Yeah, pull that one up. Put those legs out. So what is genius?

Genius is it shows all the lyrics? Yeah. That's what it is? And then it actually has a song underneath it. Oh, that's cool. I didn't even know that existed. People can annotate and tell you what people were meant by what they said. Oh, really?

Yeah. On Genius? Yeah. Oh, cool. Okay, right there. There you go. Look, the great fisherman, a fisher of men. I'm trying to make a remedy for the elix of sin.

A premonition. We need divine intervention. This whole world is, the whole world is a stage, so it's time for intermission. In the middle of the Congo jungle, there's a combo of concentrated elements that make the world's phones glow. Wow. But they got a small zone for their phones, though, because they don't even got reception out there. But we used to communicate just banging on the bongo. That's when the village was more motherly and more brotherly.

But then the dust came through and killed them all for the rubber tree. King Leopold city was built from a sea of gold. And the resurrecter still trading on a silky road. Yeah. Those are some bars. Respect. But not doing that to show off or nothing, but it's real. Yeah, but you just gave me, but you gave me like the full,

you gave me the connotation and the annotation of the lyric by, because I didn't even see none of, I never seen that before. Oh, that's crazy. I just, I just heard that they got to get it from there, and I knew the history of King Leopold, but I did not know that. This is still. Still? This is crazy, but.

Yeah, it's still going on. And it'll continue going on as long as no light is showing up. on it and this is what Siddharth Carr was trying to do with his book and you know the the tour that he was doing and doing podcasts and trying to let it mean he risked his life man I mean they questioned him and he got very lucky that he got out of there with that footage right because they want to make sure that nobody knows about this shit they don't want any outrage they want the mining to keep going as planned I mean it's stark because it's a multi multi billion dollar industry that's powered by abject poverty.

Probably trillion. Yeah, because it's like, you're just saying, like, if it's in all our phones, that means. Not just our phones, but I think it's in a lot of electronics. I think it might be, is cobalt in electric cars? I think they're trying to make new formulations of batteries without cobalt. So there's, Jamie, what is that? I know a lot of the. Chinese cell phones are using a different battery technology instead of lithium ion.

They have something else that's more dense. Well, that's a critical component in lithium batteries. Right. That's crazy. Yeah, lithium ion batteries. But what is, like, Opo, there's a bunch of these new Chinese companies that have cell phones that have much more battery. Like, instead of like a Samsung Galaxy S-26. has a 5,000

mill-amp battery in it I think these opophones have 7,000 plus but it's I think it's carbon silicon based

batteries I wonder if they have cobalt in them they've you know as technology for batteries changes in advances they need

different kinds of components in them but I mean then you're going to find where are they getting that shit from is that a number? Is that a number?

other conflict mineral that they have people digging out of the ground with sticks. Well, the other thing to think about, you know, just, let's say it is worth trillions of dollars. Like, when do the people who, you know, like, if that's on my property, bro, you know what I'm saying? You're coming to my crib for it. I should get paid off of that. Right. I should be, I mean. Well, you know how it works. China comes in.

It's a lot of these are Chinese run. China comes in, they pay off the people that are in power in these areas, and those people will get wealthy. And then all the people that are with the workers, they all get like... P pennies. As small a wage as you could possibly pay them to keep them alive. Because people live on dirt floors. It's crazy. No food.

It's horrible. It's really dark, man, because it's what powers electronics, which is nuts, because that's the most sophisticated aspect of our society. in terms of technology. Well, the government of those places, and not to get here, like, I'm an artist, and I'm a spiritual man, but they should be like, yo, hold on, bro. Yeah. Like in Alaska, right? There's a pipeline that goes through Alaska.

You know about this pipeline, right? Sure. But the citizens of Alaska, they get a royalty for that. Yes. Yeah. Like if I'm in Congo and I got this coal boat, that's where children's, and I got all these people, all these people, give them more royalty. 100%.

If that was America, that would probably the only way to do it. But obviously, you couldn't pay people the way you pay people in the Congo in America anyway. We have laws. But this is also why they want illegal immigration. That's part of the reason why they like illegal

immigration is because you don't have paperwork. You don't have to pay people what they're supposed to get paid. Do you pull that back up again, Jamie, please? How about the silicon carbide batteries? So it seems like one of the reasons for utilizing this new technology is because

it's not using as much cobalt. So advanced lithium ion technology using silicon to replace traditional graphite anodes offering roughly 20 to 40% higher energy density and faster charging, especially in smartphones. Is this anything? I thought the lot... It did because I had cobalt added onto it.

Yeah. So it has cobalt in that as well? This enables more sustainable cobalt reduced designs. so you have less cobal and it's more energy density so these Chinese phones are yeah here it is honor magic 5

pro a lot of these one plus 13 a lot of these Chinese made Android phones are using much more advanced battery technology so they're trying to ease up on it a little bit basically I mean I don't know the hard the question is like well where are you

getting everything else where's all that other shit that's in your phone and how are you mining that? If you're hiding how you mine cobalt, how you mining all the other stuff? Because they're all conflict minerals. And a lot of these minerals, unfortunately, are mined out of the third world.

They find them in these places where people are really poor and the people that live there, they don't benefit from it. Their lives don't get any better. In fact, they get worse because they get poisoned. Well, the thing that,

but Higggo to Higgo, let me add some wisdom to that. The people got to realize that they're not poor, right? because if that is valuable when you're standing on it, then you're standing on value. That's why they keep them poor

because they can't organize them. But think about the Holy Quran for a moment, right? Let me go here for the spiritual here, right? So in the Holy Quran, it mentions that you know, if the Muslims were to do what they was going to do, that they would have many wells. Right? Because, you know, they live in the desert, basically, right? And it says they're going to have a bunch of

of wells. It's not an abundant of water wells in the Middle East, right? And these are people that are living nomadic, economically, not really at the level of the rest of the world. But it's a prophecy telling them that they're going to have wells. But what kind of wells they end up having? Oil, oil wells. Right?

And so now all of a sudden, they become the most richest, small region in the world. So the promise is fulfilled, right? But the gag is that the people got to realize sometimes where you stand, where you stand on your land, you know what I mean? The value of it, as the Bible would say, yo, work to the sweater your brow to dig and plow and make your land valuable. But now if you, so if, I'm just saying that the people, where they're going to get,

whatever they're going to get, bro. Okay, you don't care if you're going to get some berries in the Amazon. If the berries is worth money, then the dude who got all the berries got to realize that, yo, bro, let's make a deal. But it seems like that ain't happening. No. No, it's not happening. And the reason why it's not happening is because you have enormous corporation to come in from other countries.

They get contracts and they pay off the people that are the leaders of these countries or the people that are the leaders of the military. And then those people keep these people oppressed. Right. And that's what, I mean, it's the people that are running these countries that are making sure that these people don't get paid what they deserve so that they can keep them working there for slave wages. So they keep their profits as high as possible. They also keep the options as low as possible. People don't have any options.

Right. If you're living in the Congo and you're near where these cobalt mines are, what are your other options? Right. You know? I remember I'm going to shout out Burning Boy. Burnin Boy is a good dude. He had told me some, gave me some insight about Nigeria. And like he was saying to me like how Wu-Tang, when we was young,

you know, we had to sling street pharmaceuticals, right? But out there, oil is like a street pharmaceutical. Like dudes was slinging petrol and slinging oil and shit. I was like... In Nigeria? Yeah. Wow. Like, that's crazy, right?

It's crazy. But the gag I'm saying is that still, you know, of course the government controls all that. But sometimes the people who got to just snap, you know, just, yo, I don't know, stand on your land, you know, and realize the value of where you stand. You know, every man has a value, right? We all walk with a living value. Every life is precious. Every life that's born changes the world. Soon as somebody is born today, this ain't the same world.

was yesterday. Right. Soon as somebody returned to the essence, this ain't the same world. But so we got to kind of, but the people, I'm going back to the people,

not to the military or to the government, the people got to realize that, yo, hold on, bro. It's you. You're the value. Because without them, right, until they do get

10 million robots to do that shit, which I don't, I'm not opposed to that. Right. Send 10 million robots to dig it up, bro. And still, though, if it's on my land,

break me off you know what I mean but people got a snapping to that well these places are all guarded by the military so it's all people

with guns you can't leave you're doing their bidding you'll get shot they kill people they bury you no one notices no one cares

the value of human life is extremely low yeah it's it's satanic it's dark well let's jump back on my film because in my film

the value of life is once again we're talking about the world, but yet I got to relate it back because in our film, the value of life seems low as well. Yeah. Low for the person living, more valuable for the person that kills them. Right. Yeah, without giving too much of the film away, what happens in the film actually happens in

real life. I mean, that is, it's based, I mean, you say it's based on real life, but there's been real live cases or people, they've harvested people's, or, you know, organs for profit. Yeah. And that's a thing. I mean, that's a big problem with people in China. You know, people go to China for, for organs.

Like, there's a tourism to get organs replaced. Like, say, if you need a new kidney or you need a new liver or whatever. We got it. Yeah, they have it. And what they'll do is they'll take their fucking prisoners. And they, oh, look, A.B. Blood type, perfect. Wack. And then now you got some dude's heart.

Business. Yeah. It's crazy. There's another element that, um, um, um, This is the Rizzo right here. I'm live on Joe Rogan podcast. I got a new film coming out. May 1st.

It's called One Spoon of Chocolate. Written and directed by the Rizzer. Starring Shamig Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood, Rockman Dunbar, the name of a few. It's produced by Quentin Tarantino and my wife, Tilani Diggs.

Hey, baby. I did an official radio drop because... That sounded like we're on the radio. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Rizzer. Coming in at 5. after the hour.

But I love how art can touch upon things, even if it's unintentional, right? What I mean about unintentional is that, you know, as an artist, I just let the shit flow. Like, when you showed all that Congo Colbert, I never seen it. But yet it's in your lyrics. Yeah, but that's in my lyrics.

And even if you're telling me this chain of stuff here, I don't know about that. I do know some things that happen with some articles, but I wasn't, I'm not in-depth, in-depth, what the word? N-E-P-H-T-H. Yeah, depth. I don't have in-depth knowledge of it.

But I strive as an artist, Joe, is to actually to at least show the surface so that, you know, I don't know how deep the pool is, but I will show the surface through my art. And I think in this film, which is an action film, So Joe only seen the first half of it So he doesn't know about the revengeomatic ass kicking

And I'm not going to spoil it for you either But I believe it, there's already plenty of ass kicking already Right, right, exactly seeing something, okay But it gets fucking, you're going to have a good time I'm sure you're going to have a good time But still once again the art of it It has a I'm realizing as I'm watching with different audiences

Like when I watched it in New York I had motherfuckers yelling at the stuff screen, fuck the her. They was on some shit. When I watched in in L.A., the audience was like it was like a sense of

nervousness. It was in the room. When I watched it in Chicago, it was standing ovation. You know what I mean? I watched it in San Francisco, and the Q&A was very intellectual. So I'm realizing that, okay, this is touching. And when I watched it, this other place, the girl, with Dave,

actually, I watched it with Dave Chappelle. He said that you got bars in this motherfucker. I said, what you mean about bars? He said, well, the guy says, the girl says, first the girl, this, this comes, you haven't seen this scene yet, but Paris Jackson is telling him that everybody in this town goes to church on Sunday, except for Jimmy and his gang of degenerates.

They party all night, Saturday, and they sleep all day Sunday. She said, and I guess they're not afraid to go to hell. And then the hero says, but where I come from, they say heaven is what you make it. And hell is what you got to go through to get it. And she was like, that sounds right. And Dave was like, that's a fucking bar. And, yo, oh, Lord. So last time I was here, it was Donnell Rawlins was here, right?

So check it out, bro. I was showing the film to Dave, right? And we're going to do a Q&A. I went to Yellow Spring, Ohio, bro. Was Donnell there? Bro. He was there, yo. And then he got up, and he asked the question.

And he started, he interrupted. He talked about the day we was here, and you inspired him to do a podcast. I remember when you said, yo, saw the podcast. Boy, you might even help them, right? And then he said, and I said, yo, yeah, if you need something, hit me. So he hit me up. Say, yo, let me get an opening theme track. And so I got like a bunch of.

beats that's on my little thumb drive, I sent them like five of them, right? And he chose one. Yeah, he told me about this. Yeah. So now he chose one, and that becomes his theme. It was a nice, fucking, but that same five tracks, my manager is sending it to other people too and shit. So I did give it to Donnell.

I gave it to him Grottis. But he comes up in the middle of my Q&A with Dave about my film, and he starts talking about the beat, and he says, Riza is an Indian giver. he said I was playing he said I had it on my podcast almost two years and then one day

it said flag license whatever they do and shit when you can't use it and you're motherfucking shit and I was like I said oh yeah

bro yeah the people from the minions they had got those five tracks as well and they chose it and they put it and they paid us a lot of money And not going back to the money of it all

But So I told it I said that she was another beat He said nah son that was the one Oh no That was the one I said bro they chose it My manager made the deal

Oh no It's off the table now Oh no So you had a change his opening Yeah so I oh no That gives him more to complain about Yeah Oh no

It's almost worth giving him the beat Just so he doesn't have to complain Yeah I owe you Donnell And I'm gonna hook you up with something Actually, gonna cook you up something nice, all right? I can't wait for this phone call. Son!

You know what he did to be, son? He took it back! He said that shit in front of the audience. I couldn't deny it and shit. I was like, yeah, you know? That's hilarious. That's hilarious. But anyway, but they love the film, too.

Like the audience and... I'm only saying that, because I love them when my peers react or something. Is this your first feature-length films? My fourth. Fourth. Yeah. I know you've done other stuff, but have you written and done other things like this?

The way you're doing it this way? This is my second one writing. So I wrote my first film, Man with the Iron Fist. Right. Which was a quitting 190% as well. And then it was a, you know, Kung Fu movie. So then I didn't want to get stuck and like, oh, that's all he does. So my second film I didn't write, was written by Nicole.

And she, it was called Love Beats Rhyms. And that was like a movie about poetry and a female lead. And it was actually John David Washington. It was his first feature film as well. And then my third film was called Cutthroat City, which I didn't write. Just once again, a high gun as a director. And that film I had Shamik Moore as the lead actor. and I kind of like fell in love with his talent.

So that's why he was in Cutthroat City. He's in the Wu-Tang series. He plays Rayquan. And now he's the star of my new film. So he's kind of got this, I hate to say it, but we kind of got this Denzel Spike Lee energy, this Cougla, Michael B, energy. I really like this guy.

But on this particular film, yes, I decided to write it and direct it. And I'm back to the basic, right? Quintan Tatea presented my first film and now here's my fourth film and he's back in the building. And one of my favorite songs from that first soundtrack is Baddest Man Alive.

Oh, shit. With the Black Keys? Dude, that song. That song killed it. Shout out to Dan and Patrick, yo. Yeah, I love those two guys. They're cool as fuck. And that song kills it.

That song kills it. That's such a good song. A bunch of dudes used that song was walkout, walkout for the UFC. I seen it on a fucking car commercial one day. Did you guys listen to the lyrics? Right. I guess all you need is that hook, right? Right, yeah.

On this, how are we doing, are we good? Yeah, we're plenty good. On this particular film, I got a guy named, you know, Jason Isbell? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So Jason Isbell did a song in the film. It's called the comic book life. And it was, you know, it's my first collaboration with him as well.

And it was a pleasure. Lyrics go, Jesus Christ walked, Jesus Christ may have walked on water and Superman flies through the sky. The immigrant crossed the border. He's looking for a better life. trying to find it he's reminded

that dreams are born to die his reality kills his fantasy it's not a comic book life you know what I mean and so it goes on and so I try to when I do films

it try to make like a unique musical collaboration of course that was me and the Black Keys back then and on this on this film we got like music from Jason Isbell We got clearances from the Isley brothers Who check this out bro

I'm on the plane Three days ago Head into Atlanta The show to film Guess who's sitting in first class In the seat right there Ron Isley I never met him before

I'm like the big fan I love his music I got two of his songs in my movie And I'm like I'm going to show and I look over I'm like my wife's like Yeah that's fine And I was like I got a chance to get up

And thank him For his work and for even allowing his music to be in my film because that's special. Oh, that's cool. Are you a Ron Icely fan? Not really. You're not an Icely Brothers, bro?

Listen, bro. I got to put you on some Icely Brothers, bro. Because I'm quite sure your love life is good, all right? I'm quite sure you've got a good love life, bro. But if you ever get into any love life trouble, okay, put on the Iceley brothers, it will smoothen out. Tell me what to get. I'm going to say sensual.

Sensual? Yeah. Put that one on. And, um, and, yeah, I'm going to just give you that one.

Because when that way that comes on, bro, your shoulders are going to start moving and shit. Okay. All right. Come in with two glasses of wine. I'm telling you, bro,

you're going to be good. Yeah. I'll check it out. Who's your, who's your, Who's your favorite favorite musician? Oh boy, I don't think I have a favorite musician.

I don't even have a favorite genre. You know, I like all kinds. I mean, if you look at my Spotify Green Room playlist, it's all over the place. It goes from Nina Simone to Bill Withers to Wu-Tang, to Leonard Skinner, to Led Zeppelin. It's all over the place, to Gary Clark Jr. It's everywhere.

I move around. You name it some dope shit. I like to move around. I like all kinds of shit. I'll listen to Dwight Yolkham and I'll follow it up with, you know, Cool G rap. I like, one of my favorite albums ever is when the brand new heavies. Did you ever listen to Brand New Heavy Rhymes when they got heavy rhyme experience?

Did you listen to that? I don't know if I know that particular. Oh, brand new heavies got together with like Cool G rap. They got together with a bunch of, of different rappers. Who else is in there? God, it's like there's a ton of different people that they did these tracks

with so they have like the brand new heavies playing the music and like heavy rhyme experience is the name of the track. Gangsters in it, main source. Yeah. Where is this, bro? 92, I think. Wow. 92, yeah. Right, right. Because I remember that first album. Oh my God, you got to listen to some of this shit. Yeah, because by now 92

was, you know what happens to me in 1992. I'm on my own dick now. I don't listen to nobody. I'm just woo-tanged out. Oh, okay. No, I'm trying to make it. So I'm like, yeah. Yeah, oh, I get it.

So I missed it. Oh, yeah. I actually missed a lot of things during my career, bro. I realized, like, I'm going backwards. Like, there was a point in my life, bro, I couldn't stand R&B. Really? It made me nauseous.

I'm serious. Like, like, if I'm driving and R&B's on, I felt, no, I was so fucking hip-hop, bro. Because you're so concentrated. Yeah. It was weird. Like I said... That makes sense, though.

Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, because you were on the grind. You were really trying to make it happen. Now I play R&B, me and my wife, we'd be dancing around the motherfucket house. I mean, there was a point in time where I was only into 90s hip-hop. Like, 90s hip-hop was my shit. Right. Because, like, that was when I was young and I was on the road a lot, and that was, like, my getting fired up music was, like, 90s hip-hop.

But then I started expanding. And then I got into like a lot of like old classic rock and roll. And I just think it's all dependent upon your mood. But there's so much different shit that you could listen to. Right. But this, you got to listen to some of this heavy rhyme experience. Yeah, I'm going to put that on my list right there. Play him that Kooji rap death threat.

This is like one of my all. So in the green room, we'll have to cut this out of the podcast, unfortunately, because we don't want to get dinged. But in the green room playlist. This is like one of my first beginning of the night when the comedy show starts and we're in the green room getting fired up pouring a couple of drinks, everybody's getting fired up.

Someone's rolling a blunt. This is one of my favorite songs to start the green room playlist. Hit me with it. This is Cool G-Rap and the brand new heavies. Okay. It's great and the gang star, hectic, that's another one of my favorites.

You're so cool about it for me. So I never heard it, but it immediately put me right back in the Staples and Projects, like, right back in that time of me, like my, because Kooji rap is love that dude. So it put me right there, thank you. Y'all. Cock blocking, one of my all-time favorite talks. Right, right.

Talk like sex. I mean, he's so many, Il Street Blues. Ill Street Blues, amazing. And Koo-G Rap, I just think in mainstream, just doesn't get the respect he deserves from, like, the influence that he had in the 90s. Yeah, I think the, I think the artists we get it to him, but, yeah, you write, the public. Mainstream. Yeah.

People, there's so many people I bring up Kul-G rap, and they're like, Who? Right. And I'm like, oh, sit down. Sit down. Let me play some shit for you. And I didn't never, he told me this year's later that the G stood for genius. Ah.

And he's a fucking genius. Even though we got the jizz of the genius in our crew, Kooji Rap is a genius, man. I was blessed to, I was blessed to do a couple of tracks in my catalog. We actually got a couple that we did together. And a couple that I just produced with like him in the inspected deck and things that. nature. So that's one of the greatest blessings of the art is that

I'm sure you do the same as whether you're doing comedy, whether you're doing your physicality, that you have people that you admired and then all of a sudden there you're your peers. You're collaborating. You're doing shit with them. Yeah, no, it's very exciting. Just being able to hang out with them, you know.

We went to dinner with Quentin Tarantino or Roger Avery and then they came to the comedy show and then we're all hanging out in the green room. And everybody's like, this is the fucking coolest night of all time. Just chilling and hanging out with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery at the mothership Green Room.

I didn't beat that. It's hard to beat, man. Everybody the next day were like, did last night really happen? Like, that was so fun. When I, speaking of Quentin, when I had a cut that was you know, worthy to show him a buddy

Javid and my buddy Abazaar So Jared kind of owns the old Desi Arnaz studio. Oh, wow. He's the guy that started red cameras. And he has this amazing screening room. And so he said, yo, you can screen it here for Quinn. I said, all, cool. So we finally got the date to do it.

And I go there, and his plus one is Fincher. Oh, wow. Exactly. So I'm just like, oh. That's crazy. Yeah. So now I'm like, okay, whoa, okay. and I played the film to them

and once there was another great night some great what was we sipping on we were sipping on some great scotch we had some great scotch I don't smoke weed like that no more so you know

do you still smoke weed? What happened when you stopped? I just I don't function good in public or weed but who does who does? Yeah well okay

People think they do. Exactly. I don't want to see that photo. I don't want to... That photo. Yeah, I don't want to be that guy no more. It's like, if I'm home, also, to be honest with you, if I smoke weed, bro, I start doing kung fu, bro. Really?

Yeah, I'm either going to sit quiet and, like, be a total... Oh, you start. Yeah, and motherfucker's like, yo, this... Yeah, exactly. I'll start doing shit like that. I mean, with a fucking suit on or some shit. Yeah. So...

That sounds fun. Yeah, well, you know, so I kind of, 2015 was when I stopped. Really? Yeah. Completely. Maybe, I mean, not, yes, well, completely, but then I said I would only smoke with two or three people in the world.

One of them is Quentin Tenton, you know, because we watch our kung fu movies. We're not going over there. I smoke, if I have some weed with them, I know that I'm in a, you know, no photos is happening. You're not going to see this, the zombie. My other brother I smoke with, I won't say his name, because I don't know, people know he smoked.

I think everybody knows he smoked, but I'm gonna say his fucking name and shit. And I only see him once a year, twice a year, you know what I mean? And that's really it. And even, like, I haven't smoked a blunt with Method Man in over 12 years, bro. Wow. And that's my, that was my, he's the king of smoking anyway,

but that was like my, but I just, like I said, I just don't like how, it just doesn't fit my today's personality. So I'm a sipper now. I'm just sip on some, not no syrup. I know what you mean. Yeah, little scotch. Little scotch. A little tequila.

Meskow. Mm-hmm. You know? There's nothing wrong with all those things. I think they're all tools. And I think one of the things about tools is you can misuse them. And I think there's a lot of people that just live in the cloud. And they just get high all the time.

And then they just feel like their life is out of control. and then pure abstinence becomes the only solution. But it's really, you just started abusing the tool. I think marijuana is an excellent tool for creativity. And the way I like it the most is writing. I think it's the greatest thing ever for writing. There's something that happens with just not a lot, just a little bit of weed. Just all sudden, bing, ideas start sparking off in your head.

Then I go, I don't think that these ideas would exist without this stuff. That's one of the things that Carl Sagan said. Jamie, what's that famous Carl Sagan quote on cannabis? But Carl Sagan, who's obviously like one of the most famous astronomers of all time, he had and wrote that great movie contact, that great book contact. He had this quote about cannabis that I always like to say to people that want to say it's for dummies. Because it's like, no, man, there's something to it. you could look like a dummy if you abuse it, just like you look like an idiot if you get so drunk that you can't walk.

Exactly. It's the same thing. But a little bit, just a just a little bit sometimes just fires up. The illegality of a cancer outrageous and impediment to full utilization of a drug, which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity, and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world. That was one quote, but there was another quote that he had about. ideas that are available through cannabis that aren't available without it. That his perception, and obviously here's a guy that, I mean, what better way to utilize weed than to smoke a little and stare at the fucking vastness of the cosmos and just try to

open up your mind to that. That's exactly what I mean for me, right? So if I, so it's only two things going to happen for me. I'm going to smoke. I'm just be like, even if I'll be in here finding fucking. constellations, you see what I mean? Or kung fu. I'm doing kung fu.

That's, those sounds like two good things. Yeah, I'm not knocking them, but it's definitely, uh, my schedule. It doesn't, yeah, it doesn't fit in. That's the thing is like, what is life? Is life about schedule? Is life about enjoying moments? And I think there's, there's something to be said for enjoying moments and there's certain things that will help enhance moments.

And I think, uh, that's where cannabis comes into play. I think the problem with it is the problem with anything that human beings abuse, whether it's soda, chocolate, whatever, alcohol, food. People abuse things. They go too far with it. You don't use it correctly. And I think it's also part of the problem with it being illegal. One of the things about alcohol being legal is we understand what a dose is. If I give you a shot of tequila and we both clink glasses and we do a shot, we understand the dose.

that is one shot of tequila. It's not confusing. Whereas we all know weed, you get a hold of some of Snoops weed or some people are just, they're dealing with botanists that are on another planet, man. Let me see one thing about snoops weed one day.

When I was smoking, I did an interview with him and that's when he had that GSC, he had the G, he had some network that he had. And we was talking about my movie, and then I was going, everything was fine. Like, you know, he's rolling it, You know, he was talking. Then he lit that motherfucker up and passed that shit, bro.

I hit that shit, hit it back, hit it again. I was like, I'm getting the fuck out of it. And, y'all, I was gone. Yeah, that's Joey Diaz weed, too. Joey Diaz got that same kind of weed. I've given it to some people, and I'm like, careful. That's Joey Diaz weed. And they get scared.

Like, oh, Jesus. Yeah, you got to go home and get a pillow ready, because that shit is going to fucking, and he could do it all day. I know, that's what's crazy. Him and Method, man, out of my, and I give Burnaboy in that category as well. Those are the three most people

that I've seen very weed tolerant. Like, like, they could be on the third one, and then you hit it, and you're like, what the fuck, yo? How the fuck are y'all going like that? They go it all day long. When Snoop was in here, he just kept rolling blunts. And I was like, how are you still awake?

How do you function? But they're so accustomed to it. Their tolerance is so high and that feeling of just being in the cloud all the time. They're fine with it. Do you find that other quote? There's multiple quotes. He had an essay, so. It was something about ideas being available that aren't, that was the big quote.

Yeah, it didn't say, understand. understand himself? It doesn't say that in here. That's okay. I feel me. No worries. I should have found. I should have had it ready. But the point is it's like it's a tool and you could use any tool correctly or you could use it and abuse it incorrectly. So what's your frequency of smoking? Like you smoke once a day, once a week? I just wish it was legal. If it was legal, then people could... It is legal in many places, isn't it?

Yeah, but it's not federally legal. It's just got changed to Schedule 3. So Schedule 3 is the same as Tylenol with codeine. So what does that mean? That means that you have to get a prescription for it. So it doesn't carry the same. The crazy thing is it's completely legal in California and it's generating tax revenue. It's completely legal in Colorado, generating tax revenue. And then people always want to point to the negative aspects of it.

But like, you could have negative aspects with everything else that's legal too. Think about how many people die from obesity every year, obesity-related diseases. Let's put that into perplexity. Put that into our AI sponsor. How many people die because of obesity-related diseases every year? So should we regulate food? Should we regulate the amount of food that people are able to consume? Should we stop people?

Should we make cake and ring dings and ho-ho? Should we make that shit illegal? No. You have to have some personal responsibility and some self-control and an understanding of what the ramifications. are? What are the dangers of overeating or eating the wrong kinds of food? That's the same with cannabis.

The same with alcohol. If you think that alcohol should be illegal, well, you're going people are going to drink it and then you're just going to empower organized crime. Like they did during the prohibition. Okay. How about this? World Health Organization reports at least 2.8 million people die

each year as a result of being overweight or obese. That's fucking crazy. That's crazy, bro. Global it's 3 to 5 million people a year. Wait, so where's the 2.8 at? That's here? I don't know.

Here is U.S. is here. Okay. U.S. is here. So U.S., it's 280,000 to 325,000 per year. They knocked out opioids. Knocked out of the park. So we're all worried about opioids and no one's worried about pizza.

But that doesn't mean that pizza should be illegal. And that's the thing. Especially New York pizza, bro. That's the best pizza. Connecticut. New Haven. You just have to have an understanding of what to do and not to do. Don't eat pizza 24 hours a day, every day.

You'll die. Right. Don't eat a pound of salt. You eat a pound of salt. You'd be dead. Wasn't there a documentary with a guy? I'm not talking about. Supersized me.

Yeah. Yeah. What was he eating every day? He's eating McDonald's. Yeah, all day every day for every meal. And that was like 30 days before like the. the Grim Reaper start knocking at the door? Yeah, he wasn't doing well.

He had all sorts of liver problems. Didn't McDonald's just release some subscription where you get like, it's like $52 a month and you can eat as much as you want? I think they just did that today. What's that look, Jerry? What's that? It doesn't make any sense.

I know, it doesn't make any sense. $52. I think they just did that today. I saw it on my Google News Alert this morning. Did that make sense? No. It doesn't make sense unless they're limiting, the amount of meals that you can have in a day.

But if you have a subscription, say if you have a McDonald's subscription and it's $52 a month and that's all you eat, you could live off of $52 a month, easy. Well, not according to that documentary, that's two months, you're out of it. Well, what if you only ate their salads and you only ate their beef patties without any bread? So it would probably be better off. Probably be okay. But even their beef probably has like fillers in it. and shit. I'm still living

a vegan lifestyle. Still? Yeah. What do you get mostly for your protein? Mostly beans. I probably do consume a little bit too much soy, I think, because I do eat tofu. Shout out to our friend C.K. Hey, in the building. Oh, yeah, he bought in.

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What? He has those Ciswan peppers. Oh, yeah. That shit is cracked. They kick. Yeah, they kick. They make my bald head sweats. Yes, that's not.

I start dripping. Yeah, dripping down to my eyebrows. Exactly. I'm sorry, what were looking up again, Jamie? That's McDonald's Unlimited Planet. Oh, yeah. You find it? Is it fake?

Well, the only places that it pops up are a one Instagram post. It was in my Google News feed. People are reporting it, but it seems to be only based off of a photo, which is most likely AI. Oh, yeah, 54 bucks a month. This photo is going around. that there's no links to McDonald's isn't saying it. There's no press release about it. Oh, so it's bullshit.

It's bullshit. Because I was thinking, like, how could they afford? Now, also I would say, they do do test stuff, and it is claiming it's a pilot program being tested somewhere. So potentially they're trying something out somewhere. Somewhere. And I don't see any reporting of it. Unlimited meals is a weird, if you're going to limit it. You can't say unlimited.

Because if you don't, if it's unlimited, then you could just feed your whole family for $54 a month. Right. You go like take one hand. You go back in. Yeah. Well, you could just say unlimited. I like to eat seven Big Macs. Give me seven Big Macs, seven orders of fries, seven sodas, and then you're feeding everybody for $54 a month.

That's crazy. Does McDonough own Chippole? I don't know. Do they own Chippole? I'm bringing up Chippolee because I got Chippole. I did a campaign with them. And they gave me a free. card

lifelong card I could eat at Chippole for free for the rest of my life Really? That's part of the campaign? No, this was like the gift. For you? Yeah. I didn't even know that that was a thing. And I could have 10 people with 24-hour notice and I think

I could do a catered event at least once a month Wow. For the rest of my life. That's pretty good deal. That is a real thing. Really? That's like a celebrity gold card thing they all. Oh, nice. Some people have gotten their hands on it through different ways. Like Travis Barker has one here. Interesting. I got one. Well, Travis is a, he's a vegan too. Yeah, I'm a vegan too. So he's eating just the bean burritos and stuff? But it's sofritos. They got some shit called sofrito. What is that?

Hopefully there's no chicken in there. No, hey, I don't think it's no chicken. I think it's like there's like a vegan meat. So most of your animal, or most of your animal, or most of your protein is from what? It's from tofu, beans. Chick, chick, chick, I love chickpeas. Lentos. I'm crazy for lentils. My wife would throw a pot of lentils on.

Pea protein is really good. Pea protein. Hem protein is really good. Hemp is good. Hemp protein is, I think, is one of the few plant-based proteins that contains all the amino acids. And it's very bio available, too. Pumpkin seeds.

Pumpkin seeds? Really? Yeah, look up pumpkin seeds, well, pumpkin seeds probably have the most best protein. Really? Pumpkin seeds. They taste good, too. I keep them in my car. And they're roasted?

Yeah. A little salt on them? Mm. She watched me, every time I get in the whip, I got pumpkin seeds. Pumpkin seeds. Wow. What does it say about the... They reduce risk of cancer and improve bowel and prostate health.

Pumpkin seeds, well, that's it. Rich in protein fiber, unsaturated fats and must have minerals. Papitas are a great healthy snacking option. All right. Yeah, pumpkin seeds are delicious. Yeah, so you get those, you get some chickpeas. And it weird that people when they make, like, their fucking jack-o-lanterns, they scoop that shit out and throw it away?

Yeah, give it one to me. It's like the most, the healthiest part of the pumpkin, that's weird. It's weird what we throw away. Like, we're just so used to, like, waste. So used to, like, having an abundance of food that we're not concentrating on this part of the plant that has the most protein in the plant, probably the most nutritious part of the Pumpkin? Well, you know, my buddy was here yesterday. He, uh, they don't throw away too much of that, uh, too much of that meat for that Texas barbecue, you guys. God, this motherfucker boy.

No, they don't fuck around. Yo, yo, there was a, a 15-minute wait line around the corner of 200 people. Where were you at? Which place? Um, it was, I don't know the name of it. Terry Blacks? I don't know, because I just drove at my man, Abbassoe went there and said, you know, he couldn't come out to Texas and not get some Texas barbara. You know what I'm a vegan? What I'm going to do? You know what I mean? Let me have some good beans and macaroni and it's just a bunch of different stuff that you can get there.

Potato salad. Yeah. Yeah. Well, potato salad. Oh, that's right. It's got mayonnaise and milk and eggs. Yeah, you've been on, you've been a vegan for a lot since the 90s, right? Yeah.

Well, no, I started vegetarian in the 90s and by the time I got the 2000, I started. You don't fuck with eggs at all? No, I got rid of the eggs. No? Yeah. I don't know. The eggs, what got me off the fucking eggs, bro? I think my personality got me off the eggs.

Why's that? I don't know. You know, it's like, like, I'm like, what's the word? I could be scornful. Is that the word? Like, when you like, like, like, I don't know. Like I'm, like, I, like a Felix Unger type of shit. You know what?

You ever watch Felix Unger? Yeah. A couple? Yeah. Like, you don't want pits in his orange juice or some shit. So eggs, like, like one day. day it's just the slime of the egg. It's just...

Just cook it. Yeah, but it didn't got that little white shit in it, bro. I was it saying? It's so good for you. And if you have your own chickens, like I have my own chickens, eggs are karma-free protein. They're like pets that give you free protein. Right, right.

Because they're laying an egg that will never be a chicken because it's not fertilized. Exactly. So it's just free protein. Right. And they lay them every day, basically. close to it, and you feed them, and they run around the backyard, and they pick bugs and grass. Right. What do you feed them?

Chicken food. You know, you buy chicken feed, and we also feed them some table scraps and vegetables and different things, but they're carnivores, man, which is really wild. Like, you see them eat a mouse? It's crazy. What? They tear mice. You never seen a chicken eat a mouse? I've never seen the chicken eat mice.

Chickens are straight up dinosaurs. There's some great videos of chickens around a cat, and a cat. playing with the mouse, and the chicken just runs up on the cat and steals the mouse from them and tears it apart? I didn't see that, yeah. I fed a chicken that I had, well, one chicken stole the mouse, but this is what happened. So in my house in California, we used to have a wrought iron fence, and we replaced it with a glass fence.

Unfortunately, hawks couldn't tell that it was a glass fence, and we lost a few hawks, and they slammed into it head first and got chaired, and some of them died. We lost like two hawks died. It was really sad. But one of them survived. And my family, my wife and my daughters took the hawk and put it in like a large cardboard box. It couldn't fly. And they had to feed it over the weekend because the rescue shelter couldn't take it over the weekend.

We had to bring it in it on Monday. And so they go, well, what a hawks? How do you feed it? We went to the store and the pet food store. And the pet food store had these things called pinkies. And what they are is like little baby mice. And so you put these little baby mice in with the hawk. and the hawk ain't most of them, but one of them lived.

One of them, the hawk didn't eat it. The hawk had enough. Yeah. It ate enough. So my daughters were like, well, want to keep that one alive? I'm like, it's not going to live. It doesn't have the milk. It doesn't have its mother.

It hasn't been weaned. It's going to die. And I said, let me just feed it to the chickens. I didn't even know if they were going to eat it. I didn't know what was going to happen. I put that little mouse down in the cage, and that chicken just ran up and snatch it. And they all stole it away. So watch this cat.

His cat's fucking with this mouse. The cats, you think cats are rooose. Yeah, he's playing with this motherfucker. But he's playing with it. He wants to watch it hop away and then the chicken gets annoyed after a while and the chicken's like, give me that shit, bitch. And when the chicken runs up on the mouse, watch this, instantaneously, as soon as the chicken realizes this, look, give me that shit, bitch, and just starts tearing it apart.

Chickens aren't into playing with things at all. They just rip the threats. This is dinner. Yeah, just shaking it and mangling it. I'm out of here. They were all chasing each other around the chicken coop with this one. One chicken had the mouse in its mouth, and they were all trying to steal it from her mouth. Oh, they wanted it more than anything.

That's crazy. Because they don't act like that with chicken food at all. Right, right. They wanted some meat, well. Yeah, or dried worms, or that's one of them, like worm meal. You buy these, like, boxes of dried, and you shake it, and they come running, and you'll, like, leave that out for them. They love that. So, okay, so now your chickens, you got your own.

How many? I have 15. 15 chickens. Wow. So you're getting, what, two? How many? A bunch of? A bunch of eggs, like probably at least 10 eggs every day.

Wow. And so, because they don't always lay them every day. But it's free protein and it's healthy for you. You know exactly where it came from. There's no hormones, no pesticides, no herbicides, no nothing. Let me interrupt our podcast for a moment. Okay. This is the Rizzer.

I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan. I have a new film coming out. Make First. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate. Starring Shamig Moore and Paris Jackson, produced by Quentin Tarantino, in theaters everywhere, May 1st. And that's only a couple days from now. Today is the 27th, so it's this Friday.

This Friday. There it is. One spoon of chocolate. Yeah, because one spoon of chocolate can do what? Change a whole glass of milk. Change the whole glass of milk. Anyway, eggs. It's good for you.

They're really good for you. Healthy and karma-free. You don't worry about anything suffering. Right. The only thing that I don't complain about as a vegan, And I don't cook with it or use it. But if some butter slipped on my shit, I'm not going to flip out. Yeah, you shouldn't because it's just milk that comes out of a cow.

It doesn't, you know, especially if you get it from an organic farm. There's no big deal. Right. So that's the only thing that, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I use all that plant-based butter. And they got this thing called, well, now country croc got plant-based avocado oil butter. Really? Yeah. How the fuck do they make that?

That's the problem with all that stuff that's like fake meat and fake this is that it's really processed. Right. You know, I think if you want to eat vegetables and vegetarian diet, like the way to do it is the way the Indians do it. It was like Indian food from India. Oh, oh, yeah. There's a lot of amazing Indian vegetarian food. I stay in an Indian restaurant. Oh, so good.

So spicy and so delicious. And they've been cooking just. vegetarian dishes for probably thousands of years. Cleans you right out too. Oh, that's true. It opens up the gates. Bamma, lama. Let's go.

Let's go, baby. Don't have a flight. Exactly. If you do, get a seat in the back. Yeah, yeah. But there was a place that I used to live near my old house in California that was in an Indian neighborhood. And there was this Indian restaurant.

It was like a, you know, like a cafeteria style where you just go and I don't even know what the fuck the names of these things were. They had photos of whatever it was. But it was all in Indian. And I would just point out. And it was all, everyone who ate there was Indian. Right. It was very few regular, I mean, no white people, no African Americans.

Was all Indians. Wait, I feel like I might have fucking been there. In the valley. In the valley. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not a restaurant. No, it's like a store. Yeah.

You've been in that place. Yeah. And you could buy some fucking spices of your own. Yes. Yeah, bro. God, I wish I remember the name of the place because the spices were awesome too. it had it was a great place and in the back they had this like cafeteria

style it was fun it was all Indian people yeah yeah phenomenal phenomenal phenomenal restaurant I'm the kind of guy that do that too like I'll go to the Asian market and shit I'll go fuck I know that I'm getting a bunch of good shit oh that's it India sweets and spices damn jamie's a wizard

nice where is that joint Kenoga Park that's it canoga Park that's exactly it that's the spot that's not far from our office oh that's real close close to where my old studio was, too. Yeah, and I was on myself, I still got the same office though right over there. Yo, bro, your old studio, right?

Yeah. You know what happened to it, right? No. Bro, that whole shit, they tore that shit down. They did? It's now the L.A. Rams training facility. Oh, wow. Do you remember that AMC?

Yeah. Bro. Really? Toad it down, bro. They built in some other shit there. Wow. That's crazy. That is crazy.

Because back, that's where the fans. I could see Joe's office from my window, or his studio from my window, back in those days and shit. Wow. But now all that is the L.A. Rams training facility. So I watch the Rams train and shit from my window. Well, that's crazy.

Yeah, right? That neighborhood is very interesting. There's a lot of cool stuff. There's a phenomenal Mexican spot down there. What is it called? The Big Burrito? That's what it's called, right? I think that's it.

There's this phenomenal Mexican. joint and you go in there it's all like Mexican soap operas playing everybody speak Spanish no no one there is speaking English and the food is sensational. That's it. El Big Burrito. That place fucking rules. When I lived there, I didn't tell people about it because I didn't want to blow out the spot. I wanted to be able to go in there. I would never bring it up on the podcast and they've reached out to me thanking me because we brought it up a few times but that place fucking rules. You want to get like a legit burrito,

legit caesdaa, legit tacos, like Lengua tacos, like Kauta. I know you don't eat meat, but if you did. And even their bean burritos are fucking phenomenal. It's just like real legit, spicy Mexican food. Well, to me, it's all about the sauce. If you got good salsa,

you know what I mean? Oh, that place is so good. That's, I mean, there's those places that you find in L.A. They're real hard to find in Texas. Texas, you get a lot of Tex-Mex, you know, whereas in L.A. you get straight

Mexican. Let's talk about that for a moment, because I actually thought about that. Because New York, you, I mean, now it's okay. But New York, we, for years, bro, we didn't have good Mexican food, bro.

They do now? Yeah, because now it's been more, some more brothers came in, and there's some pocket communities. But trust me, in New York, bro, for years, I thought I was eating Mexican food. And so I went to California.

Yeah. And I was like, okay. San Diego has some of the absolute best Mexican food in the world. But I find Texas and New Mexico, like, I find this part of the country as well having a lot of good flavors. But I'm interested, how do you, like, if you were to say from your travels, the best Mexican food, is it California? Is it the Midwest? What would you say? Well, there's really good Mexican food in Texas, but you got to seek it out,

whereas there's a lot of Tex-Mex here, which is also really good, but you could tell it's not straight Mexican. You know what I mean? It's like a fusion. And in California, you don't have any of that. In California, it's just Mexican, and there's so many great Mexican restaurants in California. San Diego was filled with him, but LA's filled with them too. But it's spots like that, like the big burrito, where you go to a place like that,

walk in, you're like, oh my God, I'm home. Because it's like the smells, and then you see the Spanish soap operas playing. Right, right. This is real. This is legit. Yeah, I was driving down the street last night and shit, and I just found this really funny, right? So I'm driving down the street. I mean,

I'm not driving. I don't drive. But the car, my car... You don't drive at all? I don't drive. I haven't ever since 2012. I haven't driven a car. How come? I just... I just... You know what happened, bro? What happened? I was in China. You don't want to drive in China.

Well, I got to be honest, like, we was doing the film there, and every time, every morning that I would go to work, it almost, like, every day, it almost happened. Like, it almost, like, that's... Almost car accident. Yeah, every day, bro. That's what I'm saying. So, and even, even, like, when my brother Russell Crow,

like, we'll get to set on the morning. I love that, dude. And, y'all, he'll say the same thing, like, you know, Bobby, like, I said, yeah, bro. We made it. Right? So then when I came home, I just stopped driving, bro.

You just didn't want to be a part of it anymore? Nope, I've been drove since then. Have you ever fucked with any of those waymos? You ever gotten any of those things? No. No. No. But I do have a Tesla that'll drive me. Have you did it?

Yeah. I've had to drive me all the way home. Yeah? It's crazy. Yeah. How do you feel, though? uncomfortable. I don't like it. I like driving.

I do. I enjoy driving. But with my Tesla, I'll put an address, like, say, if I want to go to a restaurant or something like that, and go do-doo-doo. And it'll drive me. It'll stop at stop signs and stoplights. It'll change lanes if there's anything in the way. It hits the blinkers to change lanes. It turns.

It does everything. Right. I mean, it literally can drive you from point A to... Do you ever fuck with it, Jamie? Do you ever use it? I just found out through the... update that like and then I'm not I haven't been using full self-driving I've been using whatever was right before that.

Oh. To me I thought was the exact same. It drives itself too. What's the difference? I don't know. Because it said that you're like, it gave me an option to turn it on. I thought I was what? Hold on.

What am I doing then? Oh, that's weird. Because it still drives itself. I don't remember because I turned, I got my, it's a part of a subscription, right? Isn't it? That's when I got. I was like, wait, I thought I had it. Yeah.

Well, whatever, whatever's been doing. Whatever it is, I definitely have it. Which is, I mean, part of a subscription? You mean, it ain't automatic? I think so. I think you pay more for it. I'm not sure. I don't want to talk out of turn.

I also didn't understand it either, but yeah, I think so. I think you pay for it. Because I think it's more complex. It's using a bunch of different, I don't know, making things up. But I do know it works. I saw a way more on the way here to you. And it was right. I looked in there

and I was like, yo, bro, why have a stern wheel with the old school fucking with a gear changer? Yeah. If nobody going to drive this shit. Well, in case it breaks and then if somehow

maybe there's an override where you could just drive it. Yeah, but still, that's the grandma thing, bro. The shifter on the column. It's like, we in the future, there shouldn't be no stirring wheel like that.

My Cadillac has that. My Cadillac shifts on the column like that. That's for the, what? An escalade? Yeah, that's for the... Yeah, does it? Putting drive like that. I thought the shit is right here now.

Uh-uh. I got my shit right here, but... Pretty sure. That might be for your lights or shit. No, I'm pretty sure. Okay. I mean, I have a bunch of cars, but I don't even know. I don't drive.

We're going to put a studio in at the racetrack, the circuit of the Americas. I'm going to take you around the racetrack. I'm going to put you in a car. You're going to drive around a race track. Oh, where? I don't start driving. Yeah.

Yeah. This thing for the escalate, I thought. Yeah, that's the suit. Not the new one. Yeah, it says 23. No, 2026 Escalade V. Escalade. Gership.

Yeah, but it doesn't, that's not how it works. I'm 90% sure. There it is, right there on the column. See it? Right there. That's how it is. That's what mine looks like. Okay.

See that little. They put it back up there. Yeah, they put it back up there. Because it clears all the room on your console. Right. for cups and all that's that's where mine is I love that but I'm so anyway I'm coming well I'm gonna escalate yesterday right I don't know where the gear shit was at but I got the window down getting some of this beautiful Austin air and a truck drives up beside me

playing this Spanish song he's blasting this shit dun dun dun dun dun the shit sound cool like a motherfucker right I'm like yeah what is this shit so I sam it right So I shazam it And then I get the song, right? Right And then I start playing it in my car And the truck keys going on

But then we still driving slow Then I can see the car Beside me They shazammed it You know what I mean? I was like wait a minute That's that doesn't happen I mean that's what we need again

Yeah Like where Like somebody's just playing some fucking music You never heard the song before You like it Yes You got it. Yeah.

And so I love Shazam. I got two Spanish songs now in my joint that is part of my new playlist, yo. They just got from listening to people's cars. Just driving by like, hold on, that shit sounds dope. Yeah, that's a new thing, right? Because we don't have radio as much anymore. There's not a lot of people listening to the radio. A lot of times you're getting new songs.

Oftentimes, like, I'll be at dinner someplace and they'll be playing music. I'll go, oh, what is this? and I'll put my phone up in the air and try to catch it you know that's dope that that's one of the greatest things about technology to me

because is that ability to know you know like you can know now if you want to know you don't gotta wait to know you're like you know what motherfuckers like everything we

every time you get a thought here that we're not too sure about we could hit he could hit that button exactly and give us a reference I know I would sometimes we leave a podcast

and I'm like maybe we should have looked that one up because it turns out That's just not true. Well, I have beaten Google a few times now. You've won? You beat Google? Yeah.

Well, Google's a little deceptive, I think. But if you use AI, like we use perplexity, it searches for the whole internet. It doesn't just, you know, use whatever Google. The problem with Google, not that it's a problem, but these are curated searches. So like, say, like, here's a perfect example. say if you want to find a Mexican restaurant, right? And you use Google. What Google's going to do is some people are paying so that their restaurant gets to the top of the search list.

That's a little bit of a problem. Right. Because that might not be the best restaurant. That might just be a restaurant that paid Google. Whereas if you go to like perplexity and say in terms of like restaurant critics, what is the favorite authentic, authentic Mexican? Mexican restaurant in Austin. And it'll tell you. It'll say these people believe that this is it.

And there's no curation yet. Right. I mean, my wife is actually, we were talking about this today. Like one day they're going to fuck that up too. And people are going to pay to get that to it. But right now, they haven't done that. So right now you could find spots, like cool spots that haven't, you know, with no curation. No sponsored.

Exactly. And let's say, let's do a test real quick. Okay. Okay, so there's 196,940,000 square miles on the planet, right? Whoa. There's 63,360 inches, right, in the mile, because it's 5,280 feet in a mile. So, let me start over. There's 196,940,000 square miles in the country.

On the planet? On the planet? On the planet. Okay. Okay. For one mile, there's 5,280 feet. Okay. And, of course, there's 12 inches in the feet, so you multiply that by 12.

You'll get 63,360 inches. I want perplexity to tell me how many square inches on the planet. Ooh. Let's see what you get. Boy, that number's got to be bananas. I guarantee you we're going to look at a long. A long fucking number. A lot of zeros.

That's a good question. That is a good question. Dun, dun, done, done. Does it even have an answer? It's probably confused. Hold on the fuck you're talking about. You're perplexing me. What are you doing?

We perplexed perplexity. There you go. Okay. Answer correctly the first time I typed it in. Eight times 10 to the seven. 17 square inches on Earth's surface. What does that look like in a raw number? Ask what it looks like in a raw number.

Now, 8 was 17. 17 zeros? Pretty much. 10 to the 17th? That's what that is, 17 zeros? So basically it took the 6-3-360 and they squared it. Uh-huh. And that's how they got to there.

Wow. But it didn't give us no fucking, a direct answer, right? Well, it did, but it did it with 10 to the 17. Okay, so let's do this now. Type that out. Type that number out and divide it by four. Okay, let's see, type it out.

I'm going to see what this looks like. This must look bananas. Whoa! And now divided by four? Before you do that, can you ask it? How would you say that? I was trying to figure it out. Like, it's not a trillion.

It's not a quadrillion. Like, what is that? It's a quintillion. Is it a quintillion? This is billion, right? Yeah. This is trillion. So it's...

A quadrillion? Wait, no. Just... Just to ask it, how would you say that, please? How would you say that? 800 quadrillion square inches. Wow. Remember when you were a kid, you'd think that was a fake word?

Yeah. Bro, I want a quadrillion money. Would you believe that the Earth weighs, the atmosphere weighs 15 quintillion tons? Let's see. Just the atmosphere? Yeah, just the atmosphere. Because the planet Earth... Just the gases.

The planet Earth weighs six sextillion. Kanye said the wildest shit on my podcast once. He goes, how much does the Earth cost? Mm. Right? And at the time, I was like, what? And then I thought about it. I was like, oh, shit.

Like, property is valuable. You can own property. Right. Right? Like, everybody kind of, everything is owned. Like, how much is the earth? That's a big, that's a, uh, well, you could get the number there, too, because, well, if you count the minerals. Right.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got a whole other hustle. And then there's the oil. And the ocean. The ocean. And the fish. Yeah. Right.

And then all the animals. Wow. Yeah. And then, and then it has to appreciate. day by day. Why don't I put that into perplexity? If you were going to sell the earth, how much would it be worth? Ooh.

Including everything on it. That's a mind-fucking half. Economists usually estimate the world's real estate, all land, plus the buildings on it, a few hundred trillion U.S. dollars, not counting oceans, polar ice, or unowned space. That sounds like a bargain. Yeah. A few hundred trillion? That's it?

Not. Okay, let's say, let's ask, what is the worth of the earth, all its property, all its minerals, animals, and objects? That's a crazy question. That's a crazy question. Yeah, it's a good one, though. Yeah, everything on earth, every watch, every diamond ring, every hat. One dollar. Every piece of art.

Well, I mean, the question I typed in was property and lands. Right. What is the value of everything on earth? I like what you said at a tough, folks. Every electronic value of everything on earth, including animals, minerals, property, and objects. Oh, boy. I wonder how it's going to figure this out. I bet it will.

It's going to look off of... It's going to freak out. It's going to blow a gasket. It's not figuring it out. There's no precise number. Oh, somewhere in the quadrillions to sextillions of U.S. dollars, depending on what you count and how you value it. It says plausible attempts to add it up.

Right. There's no single agreed upon price tag for everything on Earth. But this is the answer to Kanye's question. But you know what, though? Now, hold on. We just learned something there. It said quadrillion to what? What?

Sextillions. Now, ask how much is the planet Earth way? Yeah, that's why, I mean, I already did that, but we had, we've passed it before I could show you. Atmosphere weighs quintillion. Twelve quintillion pounds in total. Yeah, I said 15, so I was off. I forgot that number. But asks how much does the planet Earth way?

Whoa. How much does the entire Earth way? Let's guess. No, no, no, don't do the atmosphere. We're just trying to get their value. I want to see if it gives you I mean the atmosphere should already be included I think that's what I think it won't

So basically What is that word What is that in a word Ask that what that is That 13 Yeah tell him put it Put it in pounds Not kilograms

Because that's not even seven That's eight What does that mean? Right but what does that Ask it to say that Can you say that Yeah what does it mean How do you say it?

Septillion, 13 septillion pounds. That doesn't sound as impressive. No. No. It doesn't. It sounds like a couple lizards. You know, I believe it's wrong, bro. Why?

Because when you take the square miles, there's a conference, right? And you multiply the, there's a formula to get that weight. Right. It doesn't come out to that. What does it come out to? Six-sex-Tillion. Six follow-by-21 zeros. and zeros.

This was more. This was three more zeros on top of that. Yeah. But it sounds good. But if you take the formula of a sphere, of the mass, this number is closer. But does it take into account the density of the inner earth? Because I think that's probably where a lot of the weight is coming from, right?

the density of the inner earth is immense. Yeah, I mean. It's all compressed energy. Yeah, it's a hollow. If it's hollow. It could be hollow. If it's hollow. Okay, hold on.

We've got to take a sponsor break. This is the Rizzo live on the Joe Rogan podcast, Joe Rogan Experience. I have a new movie coming out. May 1st. May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Shaamique Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood. It follows a ex-military military, Convick, who comes home and trying to find a better life for himself, ends up in a small town

where everything goes fucking bananas. In theaters, everywhere. May 1st. When is it going to be available on streaming? I don't know. Soon, right? How do you usually do that? Well, to be honest, I'm like...

Like Iron Fist was, what year was that out? That was 2011, 2012? And there was a different atmosphere back then, right? Pre-COVID. COVID changed a lot of, like, movie-going habits, right? Change everything, yeah. I want the movie growing experience to come back, though. Yeah, I do too.

Yeah. I mean, there's something about going to see a great movie with a bunch of people. That's a real experience. Yeah, I think I'm so much, I mean, my art, my career is based on sneaking into a fucking movie theater and watching three kung fu movies. Yeah. So I'm a big of the cinema. I think what we did, so this particular film is actually coming through my own distribution company called 36 Cinema. and I think we did a deal with the theaters

that they can have at least 30 days. A lot of people are doing 17 days in the theaters or 21 days. And cinema is suffering because of that because why would go to the theater if I got it at home? You know what I mean? And home is, of course, a great place to watch a movie.

But when you're making a movie, right? You're making it for the theater. We haven't... TV is made for home, but cinema is made for cinema. Like we haven't, what can I say? Like the sound, the color, the framing. Like, I use anamorphic lenses.

What does that mean? Anamorphic, like the lenses are the 50s where you fucking get this whole fucking scope. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, you go watch it on your phone. What is the difference? It was an anamorphic lens and a regular lens? A regular lens would be the way it bends the light in all reality.

So, like, you could have like 16.9. Okay, see, so that's, most lenses are spherical now. That's that, right? Which is cool. Right? But look at anamorphic. It's the way it controls the light, way the subject is happening. And so it kind of gives you more of a cinematic feel.

Well, your focus, it's certainly like a little more blurry in the background. Yep. Yeah. Okay. And it kind of, it's the way it's compressing that light differently. And so you, with this, lens, do you do everything on film or is it digital? I actually shot this on digital.

So, yeah, so, I mean, I'm in a digital age. So I just do digital. But I did, we did make 35 millimeter prints of the movie. Oh. So if you're in California and you go to the theater called The Vista, have you ever been to the Vista? No. Cool theater.

Where's that? I think it's in Los Files or some shit like that. Okay. I'm bad at my Hollywood neighborhoods. I'm like, I'm still a new year. Yorker. Right, I get it. But the Vista Theater will show the film on 35mm for like two weeks. It'll be there starting May 1st. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, if you want to see it. Yeah, if you want to see in 35mm. Oh, there you go, the vista. I love this guy. Hey, Jamie. Jamie's the best. Yeah, he's his trigger finger is a

motherfucker. Oh, he's a goat. Well, he's psychic. He knows what you're talking about before you exactly. He's like the vits. Yeah. So that's the vista. So that's the difference like the way it looks to you when you see it on 35 millimeter versus digital? Well, I think the 35 millimeter kind of, it makes the colors a little more richer and darker, like kind of how the 70s films look, even up to the 80s. The digital one, because I've watched my film on both formats, the digital was more brighter and actually more familiar now to us. Right.

We're accustomed to it. Yeah, we're accustomed to it. But when we, I played it on April 27. In fact, I want to talk about that a little bit, if you don't mind. But on April 22nd, we had our premiere in California on 35 millimeter. And it was my first time seeing it on 35 millimeter. I mean, so, and it felt, it felt very nostalgic. I felt like I was back, it felt like a movie only.

Like, I mean, not like a movie and a TV show or a movie. It felt only like a movie. The only a movie experience, the flickering. when you, you know, when you're doing 35 millimeter, you need, you know, a real camera. Right. And so the light is going from this camera, from this one.

Then they got to switch the wheel for this, from this, and it's like, it's a certain thing that's happening, a certain pacing, a certain granular thing that's happening that, for me, for my film, it felt almost like an honor

to watch it like that. Oh, that's cool. I want to make a, make a, so check this out, bro. So we talked about this last one, I said, But April 22nd, right, that was the day that I was acquitted from a crime and started my life over. I was facing eight years. April 22nd, that's back in 1992.

Okay. As you can see, a year later, I'm a platinum producer. But before that, I was heading to hell. April 22nd, seven-dipitously, is the day that my film premieres on 35-millimeter at the Vista Theater in Hollywood, April 22nd.

But you've seen the opening of the film as well. So when my character gets out of jail, he marks on the calendar the day he gets out April 22nd. This is a special film. especially for my life, I'm saying. For me, it's like, and it was my buddy Chavo from System of a Down birthday.

We actually celebrate April 22nd every year because it wasn't my birthday, but it was the birth of the Rizzo because before that I was known as Prince Rakeem. But after that, acquitting, and my mother telling me, you know, you got a second chance, I was like, exit Prince Rakeem into the Rizza.

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We're running out of time and we still don't know the rules. Don't miss what the movie blog calls something you need to watch. Saving those children is how we all go home. From binge all episodes exclusively on Paramount Plus. So when you were talking about the streaming thing, so do you, is that something that's negotiated beforehand? Like it'll be in the theaters for X amount of time? Or do you, once it's in the theater, do you then, like, depending on how well it does in the theater, is that how you negotiate a streaming deal? Or how does it work?

No, it works. No, it works. It's usually negotiated ahead of time. Okay. And all the streamers kind of dictate what's going to happen. So since we had this on our own company, we had a chance to make the rules ourselves. So I didn't make a streaming deal,

but I made the theatrical deal first, and I gave the theaters 30 days first. And so now my streamer, he would go at my streaming distribution, which is a Samuel Goodwin, they would go and hope I pronounce that right, bro. I could fuck a word up sometime. I think that's the right word. Okay.

Okay. What up, Peter? I'm the wrong guy to ask, though. Yeah, I can fuck a word up. But anyway, so, yeah, he'll solicit to streamers, but we wanted a 30-day cinema experience. And in the future, I'm going to travel 45 days, bro. Remember when we was kids, bro,

Star Wars was in the theater three times before you had a chance to see it come home. Yeah. And what did you do? You went back to the theater. Yeah. Because the lights, the sound, the vibe of what you're creating.

I make it for the theater. I got to be honest for you. I make film for the theater. When my other film came out during the pandemic, Cutthlow City, since there was a pandemic, you know, even though my contract said it should be in theaters, the pandemic of it kind of made it a force major, like maybe not in theaters.

But my producer, Michael Menloosan, who, you know, is a good guy, he um he said all right but because i said yo bro i didn't make no i didn't make this shit for no streaming bro okay i shot my shit in anamorphic lenses i got all the sound like i made it for the theaters he was like yeah but the theaters ain't popping bro nobody's going to the theaters i was like well i don't know then hold it but he's i can't hold it bro like you know it's business but he still no but he still say okay i'm a picture on 200 screens and you could go and get you know you know And he did it, you know what I mean? So all my films has always go to the cinema first.

And if I have my way, every film I make will always start at a cinema. Have you ever tried using those? What's the Apple one, Jamie, those Apple A-R goggles? Apple Vision Pro. I heard watching movies on those is phenomenal. Yes. Okay. But you have to also design it for that, too.

Oh, really? Yeah, I mean, to get the full experience. Come on, you're going like this. And there's been some artists who have been able to create stuff for that. It's almost like, I mean, I won't say it's like the sphere. Have you been to the sphere? Yes. But only for a fight.

Right. No. They had a UFC there. It was amazing. I love it there. But Darren Ainovsky had did a movie made directly for the sphere. In fact, there's another movie they're doing another movie right now that they show me a clip of that's going to be made in a sphere. And it's actually very sports-based.

And so it's crazy. Of course, the Wizard of Oz. I heard that's nuts. Yeah, I've seen that there. You saw The Wizard of Oz? Yes. I heard there's all sorts of crazy new effects, and they added a bunch of stuff to the movie. It's amazing.

Yeah. It's amazing. And it's fucking, but it's fear is amazing anyway. It's an incredible experience. This is a new thing. AMC has just shown recently and announced called Screen X. It's 270 degrees. It's going to surround the audience in some way.

Well, that's how you get people to go back to the movie theater. Give them something like this, where they're like, what? It's kind of like recut, so it might be a fun way to go back and maybe see a movie you really like that. Oh, like see Avatar in that? Or Alien? They got the Matrix like that now. Yeah, that's that Cosm. That's kind of like the sphere thing.

Oh. This just sort of is announced. It's only in two cities right now. There's a place, I know there's a place in Dallas where they show UFC fights. Yeah, that's Cosm. That's Cosm. Yeah, that's with that Matrix thing. That's nuts, man.

I love that he got the answers. Yeah. It's a genius. But with the place in Dallas, the Kossom Place, like you're seated here and the screen is like 60 feet tall and it's right in front of you. And you're watching the fights as if... This is the Matrix. Oh, so this is the Matrix. Yeah, they worked with the film company to sort of like remake it and add extra stuff.

Oh, wow. There's also a new screen I just saw. I think it's going to be in Clearwater floor. It's going to be going to be the world's biggest screen. See if you can show... I'll show you the fight thing. Yeah, show me the fight scenes. Like, people were watching the fights there,

and I was like, okay, that might actually be better than being there live. Like, look how crazy the size of the screen is. Right. Like, look what are you watching? Like, you're sitting right there. I mean, that fight is gigantic. It's huge.

Because the thing about going to see the fights live, look how big that is. You fall away. Yeah, show that again. Like, look at that. Look how nuts that is. Right. That is nuts

You don't get to see these camera angles at home either Which is awesome Not like that Yeah not like that I love this because this is giving me hope bro Like everything you just showed me It's giving me hope for cinema Right

This is like And this is like cheaper than buying tickets And this is better than any ticket you could ever buy for the fights Like better than anything Better than my seat And I'm sitting Cage side How much a ticket like this would cost

That's a good question They do sell tickets for this I don't know. Click on that one. May 9th. How much does that cost? $40. $100.

If you want to sit probably real close, you had $20 to get inside. Okay, general admission is $20. What is the front row? Where's the screen? The displays right there. What are those, like right there what says two? Well, like.

$167. How much? $167? That's a bargain. That's a bargain. It's a bargain. How much it would cost if you actually went to see the fight? Nice. And it's probably a better experience. Plus you get commentary. You get to hear everything. And you're right there. And then it's not just like being at home, which is great because there's a bunch of people you're experiencing with. So it adds to the excitement and the energy.

That's the knock I was going to say with the Vision Pro is it's still to right now, you're by yourself. By yourself. It's kind of for me, I'm a single guy in my apartment with a dog, perfect. But if you're at home with anybody, you're like, well, I can watch it. I don't. Right. Right. Five of these. Yeah, catch up to me later. Like, could you watch it with a chick where you hold hands and you both have Vision Pro and you both start at the same time?

Three, two, one, go. That's funny. That's me and my wife on a plane. Oh, you do that? Even on the way here, bro, where we watch? We watch, oh, Sebastian. What's I say, Sebastian, the last name is? He's a...

Manus Calco? Yeah, thank you, man. Oh, comedian. Yeah. Yeah. We watched him. He's funny guys. Hilarious.

It's funny, motherfucker, bro. Very funny. And so, yeah, so we do that every time, though, but we watch them on the way. So I don't want, she went to see me laughing, and she ain't laughing yet. So we hit the button at the same time. And that guy's crazy, y'all. He's funny. Yeah, that's the thing.

They should have, like, simultaneous viewing option. Are you going to watch it with someone else? Would you like to view it simultaneously? And then have them sync up with each other. One plane does that. One plane does that. What, what airline was that? Qantas.

Oh, okay. Quantus is up on it. Well, they got those 16-hour flights. They got to make things interesting. Yeah, they got to say, it says watch with a friend. Oh, that's smart. Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, it's interesting.

Like, what is the next level past AR with those goggles? It's going to be an immersive experience where you're actually, we had the people from perplexity who were here earlier today, and we were talking about how people, with AI and all this stuff, they're gonna want more human experiences, like going to see a live concert or seeing a sporting event live. I'm like, yeah, until it's completely immersive,

and then it's like you're playing a video game but you're in World of Warcraft or you're in Battlefield Earth or whatever game you're playing. I think for that form of entertainment of video game, yes, but I still think because even you know it's more senses

bro it ain't just the sight and sound it's the smell yeah but what if they can recreate that like what if they get the technology where you can create a movie but the person who is watching the movie is standing on the street like in the opening scene

where those girls picked that dude up and that sob convertible like what if you're standing you feel the street and you watch the dude You get in the car. Right. But you're saying it home by yourself? Yeah.

Well, you'll be terrified in my film. Yeah, of course. But you'll be in it. You'll be in it. That'll be interesting. I think that's coming, man. I think that's coming. Well, if that comes, reach out to me and I'll write a script.

Right. Then make sure that we fucking hit you with it, right? Right. You're going to have to capitalize on all the different things that can take place. What do you think about that? Do you remember the sob fucking 900? Oh, yeah. Yeah. A friend of mine had one of those.

It was a cool call when it was... They were interesting looking. They were like futuristic. They were different than any other car. Yeah, that's why in the film I was like, they was like, well, what kind of call you on? I was like, give me a sob. It's like why. I said, well... Do they still make them?

I don't think so. I think they might have... No, I don't think they definitely don't make... Saabs? Oh, hold on. Just to get that. Hold on. I don't know.

That's a good question. I know they make Volvo still. Yeah, I was in a Volvo. I don't know if they should. still make sobs. I'm bankrupted in 2011. Yeah, no more sobs. But the punch line for me was that this sob,

and I'll give you one spoiler of the film, as you know, as you finish the second half of it, there's no time. So I removed the time from the film so you don't know what year you're in. And that's why you'll see the sob, but then you'll see when they're playing their video game and shit, they plan their...

Oh, right, with a fucking... AR goggles and a glove that don't exist. Right. I thought that too. When I was seeing a move, I go, is that real? Yeah, the idea is that I'm glad you brought that up. I want that to happen. I want to see one day I can play a basketball game like this.

Right, right, right. That would be. They're getting real close to stuff like that. They're getting real close to stuff like that. We have an AR game out there that you, it's a zombie game. And you put the headphones on, the, the, uh, headset on and you run around and you have an actual gun and you're shooting zombies. Right, yeah.

And you're pointing it at it and it's like they're getting really close. I'll show you something I discovered. This shout out to this guy. I think he's doing this all on his own. I found him and tweeted at him one day, but he didn't answer. Daniel Habib is his name. He's got this company called True 3D. He's done this with two movies so far and I think you have to be in the theater to experience

it, but it's kind of exactly what we're talking about. He converted a movie, I think insidious, a scary movie. Oh, that's a scary movie. Yeah. He's not showing you what, because he's being smart, he's also developing it still. And he also did it with Interstellar just recently. Whoa. And I almost flew to New York just so I could go see it, because I was very curious.

This is cool. Yeah, it looks awesome. Yeah, it looks cool. So he adapted it to the Vision Pro? These are Justin MetaQuest headsets, I believe, and you probably have to be at the theater, because I think that's where the sound's coming from. You probably looked it up. As the user watching it, you get to decide how in-depth this becomes.

because if you want to see the people next to you, you can sort of like go like level two and still see your neighbor. Oh. Or go them up four and be like fully in the room and you can't see anybody else. You can maybe just touch them because you know they're there. I like how some people are jumping in there's some people

that are like dead on the inside. Well, so because these are jump scares. He has that built in so you know when a jump scare is coming or you don't know when a jump scare is coming. Oh. Interesting. You either be super scared or you can know and not be scared that, you know, someone's going to come from behind.

you. Why would you pass up? Maybe it's on, this seems like it could fucking give you a heart attack. Yeah, maybe it's people with weak hearts. Like, let me know. Let me know when I'm going to get it freaked out. And also Adobe, I saw, you seen, I saw Adobe made this thing, these glasses. Have you seen these Dolby glasses, well? No. That, that, uh, that you can hear shit, bro.

Like, like surround sound with glasses on. Doby, yeah, I mean, I hope I don't not be feeling the secret. What is it doing different? Like, what do you mean? You can hear things. You can watch, see, and hear. Yeah. And don't be.

So it's surround sound glasses. Yeah. And so the glasses, is it projecting it into your inner ear? Like, how is it doing it? Does it plug into your ear? No, it doesn't even plug into your ear. So it's one of those things that sits above the ear on the outside, like pressing against your skull? Yeah, they kind of...

They have headphones like that, right? I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen some headphones that give you 12, 12.1. Yeah, like earbuts. and they don't go in your ear. They're like sit on the skull. Yeah, see if you can find those Dobey glasses. I don't know if I went to Dolby some months ago.

Is this a spoiler alert? That's what I said you can't edit this shit. We could if we can't, if you're not supposed to know. I don't know. There's something in here that doesn't, it's shown some 3D glasses they have, but it didn't say the sound is coming out of them. I would imagine if Dolby's making him sound is involved. It has to be, right?

Dobey Cinema. Oh, it's 3D. They're 3D glasses. I don't know. No, no, no, bro. Listen, I put them on, bro. You can hear shit. Hmm.

So did you put them on to watch a movie? Like, what did you put them on to watch? Yeah, I put them on. Like, they had a whole demo room. I thought I was looking at something. Hmm. And it sounded like I was in the room with... It sounded like I was in the movie theater, but I took the glasses off.

Oh, look, this is what it is. So it's showing you everything in 3D. to have the glasses, I think, to get the test. Oh. And the sound is connected. That's 2021. So this is five years old already. Again, I don't, this might not.

So this is a vision, but what about this? Adobe Atmos is the sound. Plus, Dobie Vision, HDR. Yep, 12.6.1. What is that? That's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. 24. Well.

Oh, okay. That's different. That's where you're, okay, that's where your home. That's having your system. But they got some shit with it. It's in the glasses, but anyway. Well, we're in an interesting time when it comes to technology and all this. Yeah, and entertainment.

And VR, VR stuff and where it's going. I'm happy about it. Are you? Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I know a lot of people are freaked out about AI. There's a lot of that. A lot of people are freaked out about AI music. A lot of people are freaked out about AI. replacing actors and their ability to generate images and video.

I believe AI to be a tool. I'm from the hip-hop generation, right? So we're sampling a record, and therefore it's a digital replication of the record. It's not the record. Right. Right. And especially when we're sampling at 16-bit or 12-bit

or some bit that's not even where the, the computer or the AI or the chip has to fill in the pieces. This is why you get that sound you hear from hip hop. So I always embraced the technology. I also know that it's nothing like the real thing. You know, I put on a, you know, even if I put on a piece of vinyl and put that needle on it and play it, in my house I have it, I got all type of setups, right?

but when we really want to have a good time, we just put on the fucking vinyl. And it sounds so much better, different, or... It's got depth to it. Exactly. It crackles. Exactly. It's something else there.

So it's nothing like the real thing. But in between time, in the meantime, let's enjoy, you know, like you said, if I could make you feel like you in Hawaii and you don't have to leave your house, Right. Cool. But if you could go to Hawaii. Right, right, right. You know what I mean?

Go to Hawaii. I was trying to tell the AI industry or AI community that we got to change the A. It shouldn't be considered artificial. Digital intelligence. Well, keep the A because you can't get it. But don't change. The A could be assisted, accumulated, depending on the situation. Find the a word that makes it describe what you're doing it like for instance it's right now it's assisting him

Right this is an assist it's assisting intelligence Right artificial sounds cheap yeah sort of well You don't want artificial nothing if I if you came to your girl and you proposed to her with some artificial diamonds Right It ain't working okay girls don't even like real diamonds that are man-made That weird that is? They have a hard time selling real diamonds that are made in a laboratory. I don't, yeah, is that a real diamond?

It's a real diamond. I mean, molecularly. Yeah, it's a real diamond. Yeah. It's just not created by the earth over time. It's not created in the laboratory. So molecularly. But if you look at it, it's a real, I mean, it's not like a fake Ferrari.

It's a fucking diamond. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't have to do things. Like, if you go to China and you buy a fake iPhone, who knows what the fuck's in there? All kinds of, it probably won't work with Apple, won't work with the iTunes store, the Apple store. But a diamond is just a fucking rock. They can take that carbon and compress it and make an artificial diamond. And ladies are like, no, I don't want it.

I want a real one. I'm going to stick with the ladies on that one. Weird. Because I think the value of the diamond is the time that it took to become the existence. Unfortunately, diamonds are harvested in a similar way as cobalt. Oh, well, now you put it back. Yeah, that's why they call them blood diamonds. Right, right.

Yeah, so if you get a diamond from a lab, there's no blood. It's just a machine that's compressing carbon. Yeah, I can expect that. And it looks beautiful. And I would, if I, look, obviously, I'm not a chick and I don't want any diamonds. But if I did, I'd want the lab diamond. I'm like, give me that dope shit that some scientist figured out how to make. Basically, you'll go vegan on the diamonds.

Yeah. Because how big can they make them? How big can they make a lab-grown diamond? And how do they even tell? Like, how do you tell whether or not a diamond's a lab diamond? Like, is there a way that they can test them? Or is it just like provenance? Like, you know, based on, like, it coming from De Beers or wherever.

But if there's a way that they could test them. Bless you. Bless you. If there's the way that they could test them, Then it's not a real diamond. It's not real. Right, right, right. Unless there's a way, maybe they're perfect in a way that doesn't exist in the diamond world. I don't know.

I'm guessing. Completely guessing. Look at the size of that fucking rock. 75 carat. The largest ever grown. Okay, so that's a fake, not a fake diamond. A real diamond made in a lab that's 75 carrots. How much does that bitch cost?

42-carat diamond for $88,000. Is that real? Is that how much of cost? That's how much it costs? That's nothing. I wouldn't be buying it from this website. Bruglandsearth.com. Jamie, just give them your credit card.

Don't worry about it. That's real. You could tell. Yeah, that might not be real. That one might not be real. But let's find out what is a reputable site and how much is a reputable lab, grown diamond. How much? How much does that cost? Largest faceted lab grown, $375,000. Do you know how much

money that would cost if that was an actual diamond from the earth? Yeah. It'd probably be $100 million. Exactly. That's crazy. Well, that's, that's, hmm. How much would that cost? Find out how much that would cost if it was a real, I mean, is there even a real diamond that exists that big? But 375,000. What? It weighed the biggest one weighed 3,100 carrots. Whoa. When it was found in 1905. That's a real one.

Yeah. Whoa. And it was cut under smaller ones. Look at that. That's not saying. It took a long time. The girl's like, anyway, that one. Give me that one.

How old, you know, ask my man, perplexity. How old is that diamond? Oh my God. God, it has to be millions and billions of years old. Let's see what is it, what does it say here? Does it say the age of it? That's nuts. 1.18 billion years old when it reached the surface.

Oh my God. How are you going to replicate that? You can if you think so. We're a machine. You said with a machine. Yeah, it's better. So, like, if you buy a lab-grown diamond versus, a diamond that came from the earth, how can they tell the difference? Find that out. Can you discern?

Put this into perplexity. How do you discern between a lab-grown diamond and a diamond that came from the earth? How do you discern? Make a girl smell it. They get up on a tubbly. I don't smell blood. Yeah, men can't tell, but women can. Their hair in the back of their neck sticks out. I don't like it. Seems fake. It says you can't. You can't.

It says you can't? I mean, specialized scanners, which almost means in... Hold on. Let me read that to the audience. Visual appearance is the same. Lab grown in natural diamonds of the same sparkle hardness and basic optical properties

so they look identical in jewelry. Naked eye test don't work. Standard home tricks, fog test, scratch test, only distinguished diamond from non-diamen, not lab versus natural. standard diamond testers don't help. Thermal electric testers will say diamond for both lab grown and natural stones

because their physical properties are essentially the same. In other words, you cannot reliably discern the origin on your own just by looking at it or using a simple tester. A jeweler, how do they do it? Let's say, what is this hey here? They literally, it seems like they write the word lab grown that you can see under a microscope or something.

Oh. Amazing description of many lab-gum diamonds are inscribed. Why will you inscribe it? Because you're an asshole. Okay. I don't know. Okay. Inclusions of growth features.

If you make better, if you're like the best at it, if you're the Rolex of making lab-grown diamonds so people can't copy yours, maybe. Well, no, no. Here's something that's interesting. It says lab-grown H-P-H-T and CVD diamonds can show characteristic of metallic inclusions and geometric patterns or growth-striations. that differ from most natural diamonds. But this is subtle and not always present.

But there's a chance to dance, right? Yeah, as a chance. Natural diamonds tend to have more irregular geologic-looking inclusions. Fluorescence patterns under UV, differences in how the stone fluoresces under short-wave and long-wave UV light can hint at lab-grown versus natural, but interpretation requires training and comparison.

Okay. Those are hints. That's interesting. But it says hints not guarantees, and many stones look ambiguous without proper instruments. Okay. So she got to be a, she got to complain

at the end of the day, right? She's got to bring it to a university. Yeah, test this. Yeah, because she has to be, and she's dissatisfied. She has to, she really has to complain. Isn't it interesting, though, that it's the same thing,

but some women want it to be from the earth and not from a lab, even though it's the same thing. It's like if they could make you a banana and it tasted like a banana. It had all the vitamins of a banana. It looked like a banana, but it wasn't growing on a banana tree. It just came out of a banana lab. Would you be upset if somebody gave you the fake banana if it's exactly the same? That's a good question. Weird. Well, well, bananas aren't, there's no status attached to a banana. Right, exactly.

That's the food that we eat, but yeah. What about GMO? Aren't we anti-GMO? Yeah, but is it genetically modified if it's just a replica of a banana. I mean, banana's probably a bad thing because you're putting it in your body. Right. But if it's something that is a complete, like, here's a good one. Okay. Fou fur versus a real fur. Right. Why would you, why would you complain if I came home with a faux mink? Because some women want the actual animal to die so they could wear it. I want something to suffer in the snow and a trap around its neck. I don't know. It's weird.

What movie was that? The Revenant, right? Yeah. That was good. That was crazy. Leonardo. Yeah. It was good because it also let us under, you know, just, I love the idea that

that there was a business, sadly, and motherfuckers going, looking for animals to kill the plane back and make a jacket. Yeah. Still is. Still is. Still is. You know, there's a company in China that makes Rolexes exact to a real Rolex, but it's not a real Rolex.

Because of 3D printing now, because of they can scan every individual part that are rolled. So they buy a Rolex and then recreate exactly to the same type of steel that they use, the same quartz for the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the whatever the fuck is the face the bend what is the term i'm looking for the lens it's not the lens what is it called no no no the glass part that's in the front god how can i forget the face no i forget what it's called how it's one of those brain farts where my brain is like just not remembering what it means the watch crystals i'll say the crystal that's it just a crystal

Jesus. But they take it and they recreate everything with the exact same materials, but it's like 500 bucks as opposed to 11,000. Right, right. But it is exact. Like you bring it to a watch person and it'll take them hours to figure out whether or not this is an actual Rolex or not. They have to use microscopes. They have to get up in there and look at the finish and the way the hands are made. So would you get better and better and better at it?

Would you write? Yeah, I would wear it. I mean, I wouldn't, because I have a real one. But if I didn't have a real one, I would wear it. You know what's a fake one? Usook, the heavyweight champion of the world? Alexander Usook, where's a fake Rolex? It's hilarious.

You know what? That's my big question. Like I was just some of the AI or talking about, whatever it is. I think anything is good until the real thing shows up. You know, I think when the real thing shows up, it's going to be real. And it's something about the real thing, whatever that is, whatever that thing is, that's just like, it ain't going to never not be real. Right. You know what I mean?

There's something about, like, a real Rolex. It comes from the company Rolex. It's been making watches for 100 years. And it's, they figured out the technology. They figured out how to, you know, because these, like a Rolex is an automatic watch. So it's got, it's moving on, like this is an Omega and this, this watch is automatic too. So this is moving on, it's working on my movement. So my movement winds it.

So every time I move my arm, it winds it up and the second hand. And it's incredibly precise, accurate within like a couple seconds a day. Right. And somebody had to figure that out. Right. And they figured it out a long fucking time ago. These guys figured out how to make the perfect amount of spring tension, these little tiny gears that move around in there.

And how long, how long does it last? How long would it stay charged for? Yeah, like, like, I don't have too much. I do got a couple of Rolexes, but I don't know, as you see, I don't want to shit. Oh, wow. Well, they'll last for decades and decades. Right. I mean, you could buy, there's a place called Bob's watches online. You could buy, like, a 1967 Rolex.

Okay. And it still works perfectly. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they last forever. And sometimes they need service, and all that means is, like, they need a clean amount, and maybe they replace a spring or some shit. Right.

But then it's back to work. I've seen one in, well, for the ones that's making in China, you know what I mean, that's, you know, and the guys... They call them superclones. Yeah, the supercloners, and you can't afford a real one and you want to be cool with a fake one. Boller on a budget. Boller on a budget. We're not knocking that. But I saw one that my wife wanted.

She didn't get it. I told her to get it, but she thought she'll get it somewhere else. In Brussels, right? They had, have you ever seen the orange Rolex? No. Exactly, bro. They had it on display for sale. And she never seen it either.

I'm not into watches, but she's kind of getting there into it. And we was kind of moving fast and shit. And she was like, you know, she saw it and she wanted it. I said, well, go ahead and get it. I'll wait. She said, no, we can move. I'll get it somewhere else. You can't get it nowhere else.

You only could get it from that one location in Brussels. Oh, so Rolex makes it specifically just for them? Yeah. Well, there's some companies that. customize watches that you could buy where they take a regular Rolex and they customize it. And the problem with that is, even though it's expensive, it's not worth as much to some people because they've altered it. Right.

This is not altered, though. Oh, it comes only from Rolex. Only from Rolex. And they only sell it. They only sell it there. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? See if you can find out one.

People love exclusivity. Hall of Time in Brussels. Rolex Explorer 2, the primary model, featuring a single bright orange 24-hour hand, often found authorized dealers like Hall of Time in Brussels. Wow, interesting. So I got to take her all the way back to Brussels to get it. Oh, it's so pretty, though.

I don't know which one of it. I bet you can buy it online. Because you buy it online, you probably have to pay a premium. Look at that. 11,000. You can buy it online. 210,000. Yeah, that's a thing more like you right there.

Yeah. 210. Maybe I won't be going back to blessings. Jeez. It's just crazy how much cheaper those super clones are that look exactly the same. I bet you after this podcast, a super clone are going to say he's going to make those now. See if you can find one of those superclone sites from China. Because what they're doing is just taking advantage of the fact that everybody wants these status symbols.

And that's what a lot of it is. So here it is. What is this company called? Superluxery reps.com. Let's go with the, scroll up a little bit, please, right there. The Daytona, that's the classic. Black dial Daytona. Ooh, look at that blue one right there to the right.

Yeah, look at that. Click on that. $1,600. Yeah. Boy, that would be so much more money. Look how pretty that is. That looks perfect. Perfect.

So no one would ever know. So for 1,600 bucks, no one is ever going to fucking know. It's a pretty good chance. That's a picture of a real one, too. Good point. Good point. Damn, Jamie's thinking levels ahead.

I like that. I like that. That's true. They might be fucking with them. Yeah, when you get it home, it ain't like it was in the picture. The whopper is not the size it is when the commercial. Good, though.

That's a sticker. Okay, so luxury, super luxury reps. Let's put this into a search. Super Luxury Reps reviews. See, how good are the watches from Super Luxury reps? That's a fake one? That's crazy. Yeah, look at that. Super Clone Date Just 36mm floral dial.

A thousand bucks. Trust Pilot. It's all good. It's fine. Oh, Trust Pilot. That's a good guy. That's crazy. They just stuck that on there. They stuck that.

I mean, come on, this is in China. What's Appos? Yeah, this is in China. Video proof. Okay. You always need video proof on every website. Show me video proof. Oh, how about, okay.

Go to Richard Millet, because those watches are like a million bucks. You have a video proof of one right here. Oh, video proof. Show me the video proof. It's opening it on a vertical screen. Oh, so they're getting very close to it. Oh, yeah, I guess maybe they're trying to show the microscope over. Yeah, so you're seeing all the action and all the movement.

So, Richard Millet watch, click on those, please, because that's like a million dollar watch those watches are insanely expensive how much they cost 1600 or so $1,400 bucks so $1,400 bucks or a million or half a million

You know what I just learn from watching that thing though The other one you had with the moving gears it reminded me of the quantum computer Oh okay Yeah My brain is bugged out but Those things are weird But I saw

I saw I saw the science of a quantum computer there. Right. All that stuff moving. Yeah, because it takes... All those gears. It takes that. Well, the quantum computers are so crazy

because all that shit is all cooling. And the actual computer is like the size of a trisket. Right. You kind of... You think about the human heart, right? It's doing a lot of fucking work. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

It's doing... Yeah. And it's... You know, it's not really a pump? That's what they're saying now. Yeah, it's like a cycle. It's like a... A vortex.

A vortex, yeah. I used to think it was a pump. But it makes sense, right? The quantum computer, the brain, all these things, it's almost like our biology is teaching. Science is now catching up to the science of our biology and now find a way to mechanically emulate our biology. So what superluxury reps.com is?

They sell, perplexity says they sell superclone luxury watches, emphasizing that their pieces mirror the design, weight, and performance of genuine models. They present themselves as a premium alternative to cheap replicas, focusing on workmanship, durability. We just did an ad for these people. We basically just gave them an ad. I guarantee you some fakers are going to go there. You're not thinking you're buying the real thing here and you shouldn't. That's just the note.

But the thing is, it mirrors the performance. It looks exactly the same. That's my point. It's like, why does a Rolex cost that much money then? If they can make it for $1,400 bucks, why is it, like, how much does a Daytona cost if you bought it retail? Like, what is a Rolex? Let's take a guess. I got to imagine it's $15,000.

I got to imagine it's at least 10 times more. Like, what does a Rolex Daytona cost? So you're saying that the material is all the same. But they're stealing the idea. Yes, they're stealing everything. They're stealing the design, the idea. So when you're paying the $15,000, you're paying for the idea, the design, and everything, not just the material. So 30 grand.

So it's more than $10. Look at that. Yeah. So that black one, the black-faced one, is exactly like the one that they had there. White. That's pretty... But you can sell that, though. The thing is that comes with paperwork, and you can sell it probably.

even more than 30 afterwards. That's the difference. That's the difference, right? Yeah. It can appreciate it and depreciate. Yes, and it has serial numbers and paperwork and all that. It's an actual investment. I want to take a moment.

Once again, this is the Rizza on the Joe Rogan Experience. You like when I do this? Yes, please. Okay, thanks. This is the Rizzer on the Joe Rogan Experience. I have a new film coming out. May 1 First in theaters. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate.

Quentin Tarantino presents. The Rizzas, One Spoon of Chocolate in theaters everywhere, May 1. it follows the story of an ex-military convict trying to find a better way in life ends up in a small town and shit goes bananas

chaos ensues Don't dun dun Action pack Bone shattering And available in streaming And maybe a month or so Yeah maybe a month or so Maybe 45 days

Go see it in the movie theaters And you know what Go to the theaters yo You know how come because Tell me if you agree with this I don't care where you get popcorn from anywhere else I like Disneyland I like the amusement parks but no popcorn touches movie theater popcorn

They know what they're doing They got something going on there But whatever that butter is What is that shit? That stuff when you go to the machine You press the button Oh, I don't know what that is What's in there?

I think it's vegan It can't be good for you It can't be good for you Well at the Alamo Draft House They use real butter Oh they use real butter Yeah Adamo draft house You ever been to Sinopolis?

Yeah Yes. Sinoplas is awesome. That's his joint, right? Oh, they have everything there. Is that a date night? Yeah, man, beautiful seats. Like, laying back. They have waiters and waitresses.

Did you and the wife like going to see movies? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite theater? I love Sinopoulos. That's my favorite. Yeah, that's the place. Because the seats are the best.

They recline. They're perfect. Yeah. They know what they're doing. Plus, it costs a little bit more to go there, so, like, no one's on their phone, making noises, people aren't talking, you know what I mean? I agree. And the crazy thing I would say, though,

Sinopoulos is my favorite theater as well for a date night of my wife. But I strongly believe, that's from my experience, that it was the Alamo Draft House that pioneered that whole concept of food. Yeah, bro. I remember coming out here, I don't know, it might have been 2004 or something. Like, it was just one Alamo draft house, I think, guys had it on. Sixth Street. Or Sixth Street.

That's my building now. That's the mothership. Yeah. I bought that place. That's the Ritz. Bro. That's my school, bro. Yeah, that's the Ritz.

I'm saying, that's why I used to come down to the QT. I mean, that's my film college. Yeah. I've seen so many movies there. I've, I'm talking about six movies in one day. Tarantino screen death proof there. Yeah. Yeah.

They had so many movies out of that place. That place was everything, man. It used to be a rock and roll club. It was at one point. time was a pool hall. Right. It's been a bunch of different things. Well, you own my college now. Yeah, it's a dope spot too. It's a perfect place. And it's, we still have the original marquee because it's all the historical society. So it's a building from 1927. You got fried pickles in there? We don't sell food. No food. No food. No, comedy club. This food next door is a pizza joint on one size,

a Mexican joint, and the other side. Just plenty of food. You don't want to be eaten while you're laughing. We have one thing. We sell jokes. Nice. Jokes and drinks. That's it. I got to pop in and who's your next guest or? Oh, we always. I mean, I do shows there every Tuesday and Wednesday,

and every weekend we have national headliners that are there. I don't even know who's there this weekend. Who's there this weekend, John? But it's, you know, it's set up with two rooms, just like the Alamo was. There was two theaters there. So we have two rooms. We have a small room.

The seats like 110 people. Nice. And then the big room, it's like $2,500. 50 people. Nice, nice. And it's set up perfect. We had it all, like the ceilings lowered and everything tightened up and set up. The mothership.

Comedy mothership. Rich Voss. Rich Voss. My boy. My boy, Rich. He's awesome. Derizza. I'm glad we did it this time without Donnell.

Sorry, Donnell. I love you to death. But it was better without you. Better without you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Indian gave you. Yeah, I got something coming to you, kid.

A spoon full of chocolate out everywhere. Everywhere May 1st. All movie theaters. See it in the movie theater first. That's definitely where you want to see it. You want to have that experience with a bunch of other people. And thank you, brother. It was always good to see you.

And Wu-Tang Forever. Wu-Tang Forever. Rockinvall Hall of Fame. Bongbong, here we come. Here we go. All right. Bye, everybody.