The Joe Rogan Experience - #2491 - Brian Simpson

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

Brian Simpson is a comedian, writer, host of the “Bottom of the Barrel” comedy show at The Comedy Mothership, and his own podcast, “BS with Brian Simpson.” His most recent special, “Live fro...m The Comedy Mothership,” is streaming on Netflix.www.netflix.com/title/81684893www.youtube.com/@bswithbriansimpsonwww.briansimpsoncomedy.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Visit https://ketone.com/Rogan for 30% OFF, or find Ketone-IQ at Target nationwide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Do you gotta get new glasses? No, I just have a different pair for different stuff. Did they get stronger? No. No?
Starting point is 00:00:19 I just have a... Did you always have glasses? Like, do you have an eyeball issue? Yeah, I got a stigmatism. Okay. But I got one for driving and one for my computer. I used to have to use reading glasses. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Then I started using red light. Red light therapy, and I think that, the first thing I started doing is taking, this company Pure Encapsulation has this, it's called macular support. It's like a combination of nutrients that help your eyeballs. Oh. I don't know how. But I explained it to Huberman, and he read it off to me, and he's like, this makes sense. But then the big one was red light. I started using red light therapy.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I don't need glasses anymore. What? Yeah, my eyes aren't perfect. Like, in low light, they're not so good. Like, in a dark restaurant, I have to use, like, the flashlight on my thing to read a menu, but I don't need glasses anymore. So I've been wondering that. Is it that I'm getting older, or are they just using darker light in the restaurants?
Starting point is 00:01:18 They definitely use dark light in restaurants. I don't, I mean, young people can still read it. Like, I've gone to restaurants with my kids and they can read in the dark. I'm like, you can read that? I can't read it. But, like, small print, like on my phone. own, like reading an email, I didn't used to be able to read it, and now I can read it perfectly. Oh, see, now, I'm hitting that age now where I've got to start.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Switching. Switching glasses. Different. Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Listen, dude, I'm just happy you're alive. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I mean, you know. You know, man, I've always... People don't know what we're talking about. You had a heart attack. Yes, I had a heart attack three months ago. Yeah. Super Bowl weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:59 In Atlanta. Yeah. Out of nowhere. Well, was it really out of nowhere? Not really. You know, like, because that's not like you were a marathon runner. Right, right, exactly. But I was sitting there, you know, honestly, I was sitting there thinking, because I remember the doctor, because, you know, we really are, like, we've set ourselves up.
Starting point is 00:02:26 We kind of deal with trauma and an anatomy. I mean, you can argue about whether it's, whether it's healthy or not. But I'll first go to his humor. Right. And I remember the doctor getting upset with me. Like the surgeon, the lady that was about to put a stint. So, you know, I'm sitting there and she was like, hey, something very serious just happened to you. You know, because I was just talking, you know, I was, but it was just how I was just coping, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Right, right. She was not happy about it. Did you tell her? That's how I deal with things? No, I was already all drugged up and shit. Because it was one of the things where I think, like, you can't, they can't put you out completely. Like, it's not that kind of anesthesia. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:11 But I think they need you to be conscious, kind of, in case something goes wrong. Right. But whatever the fuck they put me on, I don't remember any of it. And you were joking around, and she was upset. Yeah, what happened was when I got to the hospital, the doctor that first saw me was like, I forget his name, but he was like, hey, I'm Doug. and don't worry about anything I'm gonna be with you the whole time you know and then maybe 20 minutes later
Starting point is 00:03:36 you know they wheeling me in they druging me up and I'm like hey where the fuck is Doug you know and they're like who's Doug I was like he promised me that he wasn't gonna leave obviously I was just joking I know like he was just saying that
Starting point is 00:03:51 so I would calm down right right I don't know why Doug thought he would be bringing me comfort but I just but I fake made a big deal of the fact that I felt abandoned by Doug. And she didn't think it was funny. But somebody did.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And that's all I needed was the laugh. I'm like, it's you, bitch. It's not me. You're the problem. You're too serious in here. Well, why would she need you to be serious if you're getting a stent put in? Wouldn't that make it work better? I mean, to be fair, I think my whole life, people have said as serious as a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And I feel like if you dedicated your life to that, you're probably a serious person. I don't know any other heart surgeons, but I bet they are pretty uptight. Yeah, they have to be. It's life or death. with every decision that they make, right? I guess. They got to get it in on time, right? Like, if they're going to put a stent in you, if they're going to do something, like,
Starting point is 00:04:36 if you're one of those people like you are that if you didn't address this, you would have died. Right. So that's one of those things that's time critical. So I guess with those people like, hey, stop fucking around. Like, in their mind, like, I got to save you. I got to figure out what has to be done within a certain amount of time and get you on the road to recovery because if I don't, you're dead. You know what? Something else I remember.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And this was just flashed because I only remember these couple seconds is she kept yelling at me because I kept moving my hands. So basically like I'm laid down like this and they want you to keep, they want you to keep your hands right by your side. And I just remember I kept coming to with her being like, hey, keep your hands. She might have said keep your fucking hands down. I don't know though.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I don't know. I ain't going to make no accusations. But she was clearly upset about it. But I'm sorry. But I'm like, bitch, I'm on drugs you gave me. I'm not doing it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Apparently my default response because they have to put it, they have to put a sten in, but they go through your groin. Yikes. So, you know, so apparently like my default response
Starting point is 00:05:44 is to protect my dick. Right. Like I'm waking up, somebody's fucking around down there. You know? It's like, why don't y'all tie me down? If it's that important,
Starting point is 00:05:52 why don't you tie my hands down? Right. But maybe they can't. I don't know. I don't know what else is going on. And the medical people, people are real sensitive about criticism. You know, some of them were really like, we save lives, how dare you?
Starting point is 00:06:04 And it's like, all right. Yeah. Yeah, some of y'all still assholes, though. Well, they don't have the best sense of humor. They can't. Like, that's not the way you, if you want to be a really good doctor, you can't be also a comedian. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Well, see, the nurses have a sense of humor. Right. Right. Nurses are fun. They might as well be different species. Yeah, nurses are fun. Like, nurses come in, they joke around with you. They fuck around.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Like, some of them do. at least. Yeah. And some of them kill you. Let's be honest. In Atlanta, the nurses were incredibly attractive. Like, there was hot nurses everywhere. Dang.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Like nurses, and there's something about like vet techs. Like working at the one, the ladies working at the vet hospitals. Yeah. It's something about going into that field. I don't know what it is. Vet techs, you mean veterinarian. Yeah, like veterinarians. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But not the vet, not the doctors. Right. Just the nurses. Just the nurses. Well, they're people who love animals. sweet people. Oh, yeah. And money.
Starting point is 00:06:59 They love animals and money. Well, the nurses don't usually love money. If they did, they wouldn't get into that profession. But the veterinarian hospital certainly loves money. The administration. Speaking of which, I can't decide which pisses me off more is like when I get the bill at the human hospital. Because at the vet hospital, I feel like they, I feel like they're extorting me. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:07:24 You know, like when I got the bill from this hospital, I was like, God. Damn. But I was in there and they were, because they didn't walk up to me while, like, before the surgery and go, what's it going to be? Right. But when it's your pet, that's what they do. Right. We could do this life-saving thing, which is the best thing to do, but it's way more money
Starting point is 00:07:43 than you have. Or, you know, you can be a piece of shit pet owner and get the $20 thing. Yeah. They'll try to get you to take out a loan, all that. Just really turn the screws. That's awful. Yeah. I don't know when the last time.
Starting point is 00:07:57 you had to do some serious shit for your pet? Pretty recently. Marshall swallowed a bunch of rocks. Oh, God, damn. Yeah, he, we, someone spilled chicken food on the gravel, and he ate all the chicken food, and just kept eating, and started eating gravel. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:13 He's retarded. He's the sweetest, sweetest dog that's ever walked to face the earth, but he is not clever. And so, we bring him inside. No one knows, no one knows anything that happened. and then he starts throwing up and he's throwing up rocks like little pebbles and then he starts getting diarrhea and he's diarrhea and pebbles. I'm like, oh, no. And then we put two and two together.
Starting point is 00:08:36 We figured out what happened. And so then I had to take him to the vet. So I took him to the vet and he had to stay there overnight. And luckily, they didn't have to do surgery. They pumped it out of it. They somehow another got the rocks out of his stomach and they had to keep scanning it to make sure there's no rocks remaining in there. And so he passed all the rocks. He either threw them up or shit him out.
Starting point is 00:08:56 and then within a certain amount of time, I think he was there for, he was there for at least 24 hours, but after a certain amount of time he started eating and then they weren't worried about him anymore. That dog fucking eats. He just, all he wants to do is eat. He gets so excited.
Starting point is 00:09:08 All he wants to do is, his favorite thing is eat. It was like, I want every morsel of flavor out of this dirt. It's so crazy he kept eating rocks. I mean, he ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't like a small amount of gravel. It was the amount of gravel that was in my living room on the carpet was crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Oh, wow. out of throw up and just diarrhea. It was everywhere. It was a crime scene. I bet you he won't do that shit again. Oh, yeah, you will. He'll do it tomorrow. Doug doesn't learn shit.
Starting point is 00:09:35 He's the best. Like, he's a sweet dog. I love him so much. I love him so much. He's just all love. Every time I see him, he just wagging his tail. I get down on the ground with him. He kisses me.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I hug him. I rub his belly. He's the best, but he is not. That used to be a wolf. That's what's so fucked up about human beings. We took something that's the moment. The most clever, most, they communicate with each other. They plan traps on animals.
Starting point is 00:10:00 They're so clever. And also, you can't train them. You know that about wolves? You can't train them. That's why you don't see wolves in the fucking circus. You cannot train. You could train a bear. You could train a lion.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You could train a tiger. Wolves just go, fuck you. I'm going to do exactly what I want to do. But not dogs. Certainly not my dog. Like, Marshall, he's the sweetest. He was so easy to train. See, that's wow, because you can train a lion, but you can't train a house cat.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You can train house cats to do certain things. Like some people have trained their house cats to shit in the toilet. No, Joe, there's a video of like, I want to show she's Russian. It's Russian late. She's like the world champion cat training. And she's getting these cats to do a whole bunch of shit. But every now and then. They do what they want.
Starting point is 00:10:49 They just do what the fuck they want. Yeah, that's true. You can't get them to do it like a really good. dog will, like a Belgian Malamaw that's a soldier. Absolutely not. Just does every task you ask him to. That's impossible. Absolutely not. But with wolves, you can't train me to do anything. They won't
Starting point is 00:11:04 listen. I didn't know that. They don't listen to you at all. I had a friend who had wolves. He had like 7 eighth timber wolves and they got out and killed a bunch of his neighbor's sheep. You couldn't stop them from doing anything they wanted to do. Whatever they wanted to do. Why do you have a pack
Starting point is 00:11:20 of wolves? He's an idiot. He had three of them. I was like, you don't have these dogs. You just feed them. You don't, this is not like a dog. No. They don't listen to you and you have a house with a yard. Like that's crazy. Like you should have
Starting point is 00:11:36 like an enormous piece of land and even then if you have wolves, they're going to kill everything they run across. Yeah, they need miles of space. Yeah, they're cardio machines. They run through the mountains. They chase down moose. That's why I get so irritated when because I'm in an apartment now.
Starting point is 00:11:54 and I'm in one of those I don't know what the fuck is going on with my building but it's full of dog like the building is for dog people there's a dog wash all of the grass around it is all fake and there's fucking shit bags every 10 feet and the front of the building
Starting point is 00:12:12 from like noon to 4 p.m. It always just the strongest scent of dog piss because 50 people have walked their dogs around it and that's fine I don't mind that at all but what irritates me is when I see because I know I have the biggest apartment
Starting point is 00:12:28 in the building and I know that I don't have room for like I don't have the room for like a blue like a blue healer and it's like you see motherfuckers with dogs like that was like yo you
Starting point is 00:12:40 that dog needs to be running miles every day why do you got that big ass dog oh yeah I see I saw a damn I saw a cane Corso Mm-hmm, that's crazy. It's like, you've got a cane corso in a, in a, in a, in a, 300 square foot apartment?
Starting point is 00:13:00 That's crazy. That's crazy. And I don't, and here's the other thing, I don't see that motherfucker every day. So you, you skipping days? This motherfucker needs to hurt things or, or? It needs to have exercise. It's like having an MMA fighter living in your house. Like, you better take him to the fucking gym.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Oh, yeah. Because people always, you get a blow off steam. When people find out that I have a cat, they always like, oh, so your apartment smells like a cat. No. No. But you know whose place has always smelled bad? It's people that have a dog that's too fucking big to be in the place. Yeah. Yeah. Also, they probably can't wash it right.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like, what are you going to do? Do you get in the shower with it? I used to get in the shower with my dogs. I bring Marshall to a groomer, but my dog, Johnny, he used to love to get in the shower with me. Really? Yeah. He was a big mastiff, and he loved it because he was just massages and love in the shower. I just cover him with shampoo, and I would talk nice to him.
Starting point is 00:13:52 go, oh, we're getting so clean, buddy. Give me kisses. I'm going to look at you. I think there's something about seeing their human with no clothes. I think they lock, because my cat does it. She loves to come in the bathroom whenever she knows I'm naked. Or she has a shower running. She just sit there and watch.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It's probably weird to them that you could take your clothes off. I mean, no, I think it's weird to them that you wear clothes at all. Oh, for sure. They're like, what? Yeah, what are you doing? Why are you under the sheets all the time? Yeah. And I've softened my stance on people that put clothes on their animals,
Starting point is 00:14:22 but I'm like, they don't like it. No, I know. Well, some dogs like chihuahuas in the winter, it's a good idea. You know what I mean is that's a little sweater on. The dog likes it. No, the dog likes that you like it. They like pleasing you, but they don't want clothes on. They don't, but if you have like a little dog, like a chihuahua, for instance, they get really cold.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Those guys, if you put a little sweater on them, like they feel better outside. It just makes sense. It's warm. But, okay, then go all the way. Where the boots at? I'm going to wear boots in the summer because, like, New York City, like, the street gets so hot. Like, if you think about how hot the street gets, if it's 98 degrees outside. It was like broken glass.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, you're just walking on hot rocks. Right. But also, what are you doing with that big-ass dog in New York City? That's true. There are no apartments. Why you got a great day out here in New York?
Starting point is 00:15:14 I mean, I would have to make a choice. Like, if for some reason I had to move to New York City, I'm not getting rid of my dog. and I'm not leaving my dog here. You can't rid of your dog. There's no chance. Not a chance in hell. So I would just have to commit to a lifestyle of taking that dog out to like Central Park every day, doing things to them every day. I would have to make a choice.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Bro. I would have to live near the park for sure. Like for me to get rid of my cat, it would have to be. They'd have to die. They'd have to die. Or it would have to be something where like I am absolutely not capable of, you know, like I can't move. You know, something crazy like that. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yeah. When I moved out here from Cali, like, she can't fly. Oh, so did you drive her across the country? I paid somebody to. Oh, there you go. Oh, me, that would be a fuck. Actually, I didn't have a car at the time, but that would be a nightmare. This is the most stubborn, like, this creature, like, I have a hard time getting her.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I've taken her to three groomers. They all been like, you got to come get her. Ah-ha. Because she doesn't like to be restrained in any way. Yeah, and that the slightest sign that you're thinking about holding her down or putting her in something, she will fight with everything she got. Is she a feral cat? No, well, she might have been. Would you get her?
Starting point is 00:16:35 I got her. The story the lady told me it doesn't really add up, but basically she was, a divorce happened. This family had two cats and a dog. and then the wife got the house and started fostering animals and then my cat's brother who, so her and her brother were the original cats my cat's brother started
Starting point is 00:17:03 basically like joined this pack of cats against, because Millie don't socialize at all but her brother kind of turned on her Game of Thrones. Yeah, and so since then she was just hostile with everybody. Wow. All the animals, I mean.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So when I came to get her, all these animals were in this lady's house, except Millie. She was in the garage. And they had a little post, and she was in the garage. And when I came to take her, she was so down to go. She was like, fuck all them people. Fuck my brother. Fuck this. She was so.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But she likes you. Oh, yeah, she loves me. She still, to this, she follows me from room to room. Oh, what that's sweet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some cats that just choose one person, too. She also hates me, too. She hates you?
Starting point is 00:17:41 I think she hates. She probably had bad experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's just, she's got some kind of trauma that I'll never know. You got to give her some kitty cat ayahuasca. I've had to put her on CBD and shit before we go to the vet. Really? This episode is brought to you by ketone IQ.
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Starting point is 00:18:57 Oh, yeah, sometimes. Does she get high and roll around and get freaky? She loves it. What is it so weird? It works on every cat. I've never seen a cat where it doesn't work on. Imagine, I mean, if there's shit like that for people? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You just give someone... We got plenty of shit like that. But I don't know if it gets them high. I don't know what it's doing to them. So then? But let's find out. I really have no idea with the mechanism of, let's put this into perplexity. All right, Jeremy already did it.
Starting point is 00:19:23 What's perplexity? Catnip is an aromatic. Perplexity is our AI sponsor. Really? Yes, we have an AI sponsor. Oh, shit, okay. It's the shit. It's not ideologically captured.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Katnip is an aromatic herb in the mint family whose leaves and stems contain a chemical. How do you say that word? Nepetala. Want to try that, Jay? I'm going to say nepotalactone. Nepotelactone. I think you're right. Nepotilactone.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That triggers playful or euphoric behavior in many cats. Many cats, interesting. I thought it was all cats. A plant is native to Eurasia, now common across temperate regions, and it's easy to grow in North America, often in gardens or pots. Why cats react to it. Catnepidem contains an oil whose main active compound is nepotalactone, a type of turpene produced in glands on the leaves and stems. When the cats smell nepotalactone, it binds to receptors in their nose and stimulates brain
Starting point is 00:20:23 pathways linked to mood, leading to behaviors like rolling, rubbing, purring, meowing, jumping, or brief zoomies. Only about two-thirds. Oh, okay. 80% of cats are sensitive to catnip. The tendency is genetic. The effect usually lasts five to 15 minutes, after which they become temporarily immune for a while. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Interesting. Is it safe? For most cats, catnid is considered non-toxic and safe, and many vets recommend it as an enrichment to encourage play and reduce boredom or stress. Eating a small amount is usually fine and may soothe the digestive tract, but large amounts can cause short-lived stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea, or dizziness. You can't just fucking a fiend. Oh, shit, you're only supposed to give a pinch? I don't know. That's what they say down there.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Only a pinch. Oh, here it goes. Because of this, people typically offer just a pinch of dried or fresh. How much do you give your cat? Bro. I don't fuck to her world. Oh, my God. You give her a pat bag?
Starting point is 00:21:28 You give her a fat bag? I just let her go at it, man. You know what's funny, man, my cat is very, like, I let her do what she wants. You know, like, I let her, she can go outside. Like, you know, she's not an outdoor cat, but if she want to go out, I open the door. Because I make, you know what it is, I make sure outside is not some. some mystery place that she if she want to go, I open the door and let her go
Starting point is 00:21:50 and then she get cold or hear something and smell and run back in the house. Because that way she's not like just dying to go out there. Right, right, right. I'm not worried about her running away. I'm worried about coyotes, man. When you let cats out, man, coyotes are fucking, and they target your house. They know where the cats are? Do you know the cats that get let out? Yeah, but it's like
Starting point is 00:22:08 nothing comes near my building because it just smells like, it smells like 50 dogs live there. Yeah, but they eat dogs too. Really? Mm-hmm. Yeah, my daughter's puppy got eaten by a coyote in California. Guy was training it and he left the puppy outside. I got eaten by coyotes.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Bro, I haven't seen no coyotes. Oh, I've seen them. Also, but here's the other thing, too. My girl is, you know, she takes zero chances. The slightest side of danger. She already got... No, she got 50 spots to hide and run. Like, she's never gotten into it with anything.
Starting point is 00:22:44 The thing about coyotes is they haven't. And they're predators, right? And cats are predators too, but pets are different than wild animals. Yeah, they're very different. She'll bring a fucking mouse in the house. Yeah, I mean, they kill stuff. They kill stuff for fun. But there's a difference between that and needing to eat and needing to, like, eat cats in order to survive, which is what coyotes do.
Starting point is 00:23:06 So coyotes know where the cats are. They know the smell when cats are peeing outside. So they know a cat lives in the house. and they know the cat piece outside, they just hover nearby and wait because they know it's a matter of time for the cat has to go outside. You know it's funny, man.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I haven't seen the coyote the whole time I live in Austin. They'll hide. They'll hide. I know. I saw them all the time in L.A. though. You'll see them. They exist. You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:23:31 I think it's that the ones out here aren't starving like the ones in L.A. were. Right. Because they get boulder and boulder if they're hungrier they get. Well, the thing about Austin as opposed to L.A. is there's a lot of animals and there's a lot of moisture, right?
Starting point is 00:23:44 So if you're outside of greater Austin area, like a lot of these coyotes, I see them all the time out where I live because there's a lot of animals where I live. I see foxes almost every day. I see armadillos a couple times a week. I see deer every day. I always see the, especially when I come home, I see foxes running across the road. There's all kinds of animals. So there's all kinds of things that coyotes eat. A lot of rabbits.
Starting point is 00:24:08 All kinds of things coyotes eat. And so they don't have to come into the city. Whereas in L.A., you've got. LA and then everything around LA is just barren. You know, it's all dry and fucked up. And you might find a rabbit, but it's way easy to eat someone's cat. And I think that every person doesn't realize how many coyotes are around them. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Every major city, they're like raccoons. They're in every city everywhere. There's a great book on it called Coyote America. Oh. Yeah, it's really good. And it's all about how coyotes, what happens is, is when they yell out, they're doing like a roll call. And when they're doing a roll call, they're letting all the other coyotes know that they're there.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And when one of them's missing, the female coyotes assume that that coyote's dead. And so their body responds by making a larger litter. What? Yeah. They'll have more babies if someone's missing. Damn, death makes them horny? Well, it makes them have more children. They always have children.
Starting point is 00:25:11 They're always horny, right? but they instead of having three pups they'll have six and they spread out because they were persecuted by gray wolves like that's the whole deal and being gray wolves and red so coyotes and red wolves mate with each other that's why you get what they call it coy wolf but it really is coyote is a wolf it's a type of wolf but they're not related to the gray wolves and gray wolves and coyotes don't mate so gray wolves the ones that have in like Colorado and, you know, like Montana, those wolves just eat coyotes. They just kill them. Like, they don't fuck around.
Starting point is 00:25:50 So there's no chance of becoming allies. So those coyotes learned a long time ago when they start getting killed by wolves just spread out. Just get the fuck out of there. Keep moving. That's why they're in 50 states. They're in every city in the country now. And there wasn't the case when I was a kid. When I was a kid, like I grew up in Massachusetts and my high school,
Starting point is 00:26:11 years. There was no fucking coyotes. Nobody, I never even heard of anybody seeing a coyote. Yeah, me neither. I never saw a coyote in my life until 1994 in, uh, I, I, do you remember in L.A.? They have those Oakwood Garden apartments?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Mm-hmm. It's like furnished apartments that they had in L.A. And, uh, I was driving to it. It's like when I first moved there, I didn't have an apartment yet. When I first moved there, I was like, those fucking dogs? What is dogs? And I'm like, oh shit, those are coyotes. I remember pulling the car over, looking at it. I'm like, this weird.
Starting point is 00:26:42 These weird little wolves just wandering around the city. Like that's how you know you see in the coyote. You're like, is that a dog? Well, that was the first time. And that was in 94. But by the time, you know, we left in 2020, fucking they were everywhere. I mean, everywhere. Like, they expanded.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And now they're in New York City. They find them in the middle of the fucking park. They find them in the Bronx. They're in abandoned buildings. They're all over the place. They're in Chicago. go, coyotes are all over the whole country.
Starting point is 00:27:13 When I was in LA, one of the neighborhoods I lived in, I was like, I was in the neighborhood Facebook group, and it was a dude in there. His name was coyote. The guy's name was coyote. He just wanted everybody to know that he loved coyote so much. And he would literally, he would
Starting point is 00:27:29 defend coyotes no matter what the fuck they did. Like somebody would be in the Facebook group, hey, a coyote fucking ate my dog right out of my hands. Watch out. And this guy would be like, if anybody here harms that coyote, they have to answer to me. Fuck your dog. God. Oh, yeah. I think his name was like, his name was like Coyote Jones or something like that. He was serious. He was real serious. Really into coyotes. He was, you know, everybody got their thing.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Wow. They're an interesting animal, man. That's, it's really interesting in that book. It was, it's all about. You know who's, I just saw something about how raccoons are the next animal that's being, you know, tamed or domesticated or whatever. I believe that. The ones in the city are starting to have like shorter snouts. Oh, whoa. Yeah, they're starting to... Look more like how wolves became bitch-ass wolves when they came around the fire. They're basically starting to get cuter. Like dogs.
Starting point is 00:28:25 The ones closer to us are getting cuter because they know it gets them treated better. Wow. The cuter ones have more but more babies. The same thing I know. And that's crazy. Because I've read some way that we haven't actually domesticated cats or not. That makes sense. Maybe domesticated isn't the word, but...
Starting point is 00:28:41 Never got them to the point where we did with dogs. Exactly. Yeah. But raccoons are getting there. That's so interesting. But it makes sense. Like, did you ever heard about that Russian study they did with foxes? Like how quickly you can domesticate a fox?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Oh, no. I didn't know that you could do that. Oh, it's really quick. So you start out with foxes and any fox that shows any aggress, you start with a bunch of foxes. Any fox that shows any aggression to a person, you kill it on the spot. Oh. Bang. Dead.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Fuck you. get all the ones that survive or ones that have no aggression towards people. And then slowly their snouts get shorter and their ears start to flop. And over the course of like 10 years, you've got a totally different animal. See if you can find that. Why don't people do that? Well, they did do that with this one study, but it was just to show how quick things change, like given natural selection. Like natural selection dictated that if you're a sweeter fox, you live.
Starting point is 00:29:35 If you show your teeth, they fucking shoot you in the head. And I'm sure Russian scientists are probably a little bit. more hardcore. Oh, Chinese. Here it is. Dimitri Beelov in Ludmilia Trout, the Russian fox domestication program, is a long-term experiment in Novosibirsk, Siberia, that successfully bred domesticated silver foxes, a form of red fox, selecting specifically for tameness.
Starting point is 00:30:04 After over 60 years and dozens of generations, Fox act like domesticated elite pets, displaying dog-like behavior such as tail wagging, licking, and whining for attention. So you can buy them? Can you buy one of these foxes? That's crazy. See if there's a video. Oh, you get one for $9,000. What?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Known for high energy and needing intensive care. Yeah, you don't want that in your fucking 1,300 square foot apartment. We're mixed them elite, though. It is interesting, right? What does that mean? Does it look like AI? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:30:41 It's who knows nowadays, right? Oh, look at this. He's got a fox as a pet. Oh, wow. They're like little dogs. That's crazy. Oh, bro. But the thing about foxes are, they are, like, playful in the wild.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Even wild foxes are playful with people. Oh, this little guy's missing a foot. I don't know if those are wild or the thing. These are just different foxes. I don't think these are those foxes. This is just. Right. It's showing the info and then showing a bunch of different foxes. But if you remember Grizzly Man, like that movie, the Warner Herzog movie, so he was living in the middle of Alaska around these bears and the foxes would come and hang out with him.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And the foxes would like hang out in his tent. They would play with him. They stole his hat once and ran away with his hat and he was like chasing him trying to get his hat back. And the bears don't attack the foxes? Well, they probably would if they could, but foxes probably can get a one. I mean, they'd probably catch a fox slipping every now and then, but mostly what they were looking for up there was salmon. They're eating a lot of salmon. And when bears get salmon, that's all they want.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Like, there's a crazy video that we've shown before of this guy, and they're on the edge of a river. And the salmon are running. There's all these bears in there that are just, like, just gorging on salmon, which is why those coastal bears are so much bigger. Like Codiac bears, like Alaska. The reason why they're so much bigger is because they have access to salmon. They have access to fish. and all the other animals that are there too but when there's a salmon run
Starting point is 00:32:17 that's all they want they just want to eat salmon So you're saying like if you give salmon to a bear that's never had salmon before it'll just that's all it'll want after that. No that's not what I'm saying I wouldn't It's probably delicious I mean that's why we like sashimi But I think it's the access
Starting point is 00:32:32 Is so easy They don't have to chase anything They just stand in the river It literally comes to them They just bite it out of the air You see how bears do that Oh yeah And bears are kind of lazy
Starting point is 00:32:40 Like if they can preserve energy They will They just want to get fat for hibernation, right? So they just want to eat as much as possible. So the point is, like, when they're like that and they're just eating fish, you don't even have to worry about them. They're not even going to kill you. So this dude is, like, sitting there. He's got, like, a little lawn chair.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And this fucking giant bear just walks up besides him and sits down. Like, sits down almost like a person. And they're like, hey, get out of here. Hey, I mean, it is as close to him as you are to me. and it might be a thousand pounds. I mean, this thing is fucking gigantic. And you see the river behind him, so you see all these bears
Starting point is 00:33:19 that are just scooping salmon out of the river. And what is the bear trying to tell him about doing it? Bears on it doesn't give him a fuck. He just comes to sit down. Like, you might be a stick or a person. It doesn't matter. It's eating salmon. It's right.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Like, watch this. Look at this. Look at this. This dude's just sitting there in his fucking chair and this giant ass bear just comes next to him. Look at the size of that thing. But it's not interested in him at all. It's not like playing coy.
Starting point is 00:33:49 It's not pretending. It's not going to kill him. It doesn't care about him. It doesn't think that he's going to eat it. That's for fuck sure. Right. So it's like he's just chilling. Like that might as well be, look at it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 He sits down like a person. Bro, you know what it is about these motherfuckers is. How fast they can go from this to terrifying. Yeah, to 45 miles. an hour but look it's like hey get out of here then it walks off he's like all right I'm not looking for any trouble just trying it out it's amazing that the thing listens to him but they also amazing that he's not freaked out I guess he's taking a photo so in that video you see there's a ton of bear so they're just hanging
Starting point is 00:34:31 out in that stream they just lay and they don't fight with each other either during those situations because they know there's so much salmon there's enough for everybody so like if one of them kills a moose right the other ones will come over and try to steal it from them fuck you That's my moose. And they'll, because there's only one food source. But on these rivers,
Starting point is 00:34:50 there's just constant fish coming out. So they're just grabbing them and eating them. And they're fucking gigantic because of that. We don't know shit about these animals, man. We know a little. You know, I just saw some shit about Florida. So they have a serious snake problem now. Like, I think it's...
Starting point is 00:35:13 Pythons. Yeah, it's pythons. And how to do it on, Python Cowboy. He gave us a head. Where is that head? Do you know what it is? Well, yeah, well, they, so they, they've been trying to catch. So apparently it came from the 80s and the 90s of like a big python pet boom.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Well, it was a research center that got hit by a hurricane. Right, that's what I was about to say. The hurricane came. They released it into the wild. Now it's a problem, and they try paying hunters to get them, and they tried the training dogs to find them. Nothing is good enough. But then they made robot rabbits.
Starting point is 00:35:50 You see this? Yeah, they made robot rabbits, and they made them, they made them, they put them in these boxes, and they generated fake body heat and the scent of rabbits and everything. And it did attract, it did pull the snakes, but it pulled everything else too. So what ended up happening is the snake's only natural predator was these was alligators. And the alligators was fucking these things up and the snakes
Starting point is 00:36:20 purposely avoid the alligators. So it ended up having the opposite effect. The snakes stayed away and the alligators were fucking these boxes up. Oh wow. And it was almost a complete waste. But then one of the nerds as they were about to shut the whole fucking thing now,
Starting point is 00:36:36 he noticed in the data that what they actually found out. So they plugged it into AI and the AI I did this whole fucking map of all the data. Because apparently before every attack, those boxes were still like tracking, movement, and everything was going on.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And they found out that the animals have, like, highways. So it's not that the snakes were in random places, is that the snakes and the alligators were using these highways that only they could smell of, like, the quickest ways to get through the Everglades and stuff like that. And so they were able, so now they just, they know where they are and they know how they get from one part of the swamp to the other. And they didn't, so we learned something. We still don't know what the fuck to do about the python.
Starting point is 00:37:27 They used dogs a lot where the dogs find the eggs. Well, they train these two dogs specifically, but they got to the point where it's like, you know, it's just so much ground to cover two dogs. And it would, because that's the problem with the pythons. I mean, we could wipe them out if we want it. I don't think we can. Well, the problem is... The Everglades are so big. Well, that's my point, is we can't...
Starting point is 00:37:48 Like, the cost of doing it... We just haven't found a way where we can do it where it doesn't cost just a crazy amount of money. But you think about all the money they do spend shit on? Like, if they got all this Somali daycare center money back, you could kill the snakes? Yeah, did you see Ilhan Omar? She was reading off of a script.
Starting point is 00:38:09 She's the woman who's a congresswoman from Minnesota, from Minneapolis. And she's connected, at least accused of being connected to the Somali Daycare Center. She's Somali. She's accused of being connected to this fraud. So she's reading off this script. And you know how people write World War II and they use like I-I for two? Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:33 She reads it as World War 11. This is a Congress person? She's a Congresswoman. See if you can find the video, Jamie. It's kind of adorable. It's kind of adorable because I don't think English is their first language already. The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked. It was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants doing World War 11.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Oh, two. At least she caught it, though. I didn't know she caught it. I never saw it. They always cut it off before she caught it. Well, that's politics, bro. Politics is fucking brutal, man. It's gross.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I don't understand why anybody will want to go into it. But how could you say World War 11? Like, you know there haven't been nine other wars you forgot about. But I've said way dumber shit to do. Whatever you ever reading off a written speech? I mean, oh, man, I would almost be, you know what is? I do on a daily basis, I do things or say things that, I'm like, I definitely shouldn't have children, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Like, I'm, I'm... Well, if you did, they'd make fun of you. I'm too forgetful. I'm too stupid shit and my kids make fun of me. It's normal. Yeah, my brain. It's part of being a person. To pretend that you don't say stupid shit, but the thing is, like, you and I say stupid shit publicly.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Like, we'll say stupid shit on a podcast. Oh, yeah. And sometimes you get paid for it. Mm-hmm. But I'm talking about stuff that I would be embarrassed to have said publicly. Like World War. Yeah, like World War 11. Because I'm telling you, I do shit like that all the time.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I have wacky. Tony makes fun of me all the time because he's like, you're like a cartoon character. I have that kind of luck where it's like sometimes I just have those days, man. I wake, I woke up. This happened like, remember when I was, so last Tuesday, right? Last bottom of the barrel. You walked in the green room and I told you, I went to go smell the candle and I didn't know, those are you know jelly roll candles?
Starting point is 00:40:38 And it's a bong. And I wasn't thinking about it and I went to smell the candle. and poured the wax on my clothes right before I got to go off state. And I was wearing like light pants so it looked like I jizzed on my pants as the wax was drying. And that's why I went home early that day
Starting point is 00:40:54 because I was like, it was one of the days I woke up and the day started that way. I woke up to my CPAP machine crashing on the floor because I rolled over and pulled it off my nightstand. And I get up to go to go deal with that and I fucking stub my toe. And I'm like, it's going to be one of these days.
Starting point is 00:41:10 It's going to be one of these fucking days. I'm going to drop the, Drop a glass in the kitchen, you know. So you just said, let's call it a day. I said, yeah, I call it. Go home, go right to sleep. Interesting. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So you gave up on the day? No, I still, I mean, I still ended up at the mothership that night. But your set was good, though. My set was good, but I took a nap. I napped till the mothership because I never had to have one of them sleep. I'm going to take a reset. Take this edible, take a strong nap, get to the mothership, do myself, leave. Almost like it's a new day because you just woke up.
Starting point is 00:41:38 But no, but then I spilled the wax on me. Oh. So my brain was like, you don't get to cheat. interesting. The idea of good days and bad days based on just like this is what the world has planned for you today. This is a bad day. You know what it is if I don't get the sunshine, like I, because I'm a night out, which
Starting point is 00:41:57 kind of sucks, but if either I need to stay up for the sunshine because I got the blackout curtains. But if I wake up late in the day and I don't get no sunshine, I just, I feel dumber. Yeah, definitely. I do too. Yeah. Yeah. If I wake up late.
Starting point is 00:42:12 even if I get a good amount of sleep, like more than five hours, but if I was up really late and then I wake up late, I feel off. Because your whole system's all scrambled. Your system is used to waking up in the morning and going to bed at night. But if you stay up late, like your brain is working on like 40% capacity. Sometimes I, sometimes I, because I get, I'm a big gamer. Sometimes I get it. And I'm one of those people, like, if I pay $60 for a game or now it's like $80.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But I'm going to play the fuck out of it. Like the day it come out, I'm playing it all night. So you're playing online, or you're playing the game itself? Both. Both. It depends on the game. What is the games that you like?
Starting point is 00:42:50 All type of shit. Like, what's the big one? Right now? Right now, the game I'm playing the most is called Deadlock. It's not open available to the public. It is? No. Dude, you're a developer?
Starting point is 00:43:02 I didn't get the shit. No, but you can get, you have to be invited. It's a closed, what are they called a closed beta or play test? Oh, okay. That's how hardcore you are? You get invited to beta test? Oh yeah, I got a bunch of nerdy friends. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, well, actually, one of my little nerd groups is like, it threw one of the servers at the mother shit. We all game. We're on the same discord. We'll get on there. Because it's nice to have a group where it's like some new shit come out and we're like, yo. This is Deathlock? Oh, yeah. This looks cool.
Starting point is 00:43:30 This shit's cooler than the motherfucker. Oh, wow. It also will make you mad as shit. So it's third person. So you look at it in a third person. Yeah, it's third person. And do you get to pick who you are? Oh, what is that?
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah, yeah. Right now, I think there's 34 characters. So look, that's all different people. I know what is, there's a lot of information on the screen that just popped up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's all those? Buddy, this is. What are all those things?
Starting point is 00:43:55 This is crazy. I'm going to fuck this up in a bunch of people. Okay. So, so basically, okay. So, so basically, so see, see that bottom, that bottom left number, the green number, 3,03? Yeah. Okay, so those are souls, which is just money. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Monies or Souls? In this game, just think of Souls as dollars. Okay. So she's got $3,000. And basically, so the thing she just left is the lane she was in. And basically how well you're playing a game, how many kills you get, how many minions you're getting,
Starting point is 00:44:29 you get more money. And the money lets you go buy those items. That's what all those cards are underneath those people. It tells you what everyone's bought. Okay. And since this bitch got the most money, she's bought the most stuff, which makes her stronger. So this game's all about snow.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It's all about getting the money to get stronger, faster, so you can win. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's like a zip line? Is she on a zip line here? Yeah, yeah, because if you see on the right hand side, that's the map. That's the map. She's, so there's three different lanes you have to control, right?
Starting point is 00:44:57 And that big box is like the, man, this is a lot. Is this like League of Legends, but on the ground? Exactly. Okay. I'm glad you put it like that. But that doesn't help Joe at all. He's not, he's like, Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. Okay, so, so, so see. It looks fun. See the yellow side? See the yellow side? Yes. On the left hand side of the map. Okay, that first tower is where you start at.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Oh, okay. And the point is to get stronger, get underneath that, destroy it. Then you work down to the second one. That one is a little stronger. It defends itself. That's what she's in front of right now. Mm. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And then. They're on teams. Yeah, yeah, it's two teams trying to, and basically you're trying to work yourself down to their base and kill the one on their base. Oh, wow. So you join up with a team of guys that are playing this online. Yeah, it's six on six. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But then they just, but here's the thing. This is all very complicated and all this, but they just introduced brawl mode, which is, or street brawl, which is basically, it knocks it down the four on four. It makes it one lane, and it gives you random items. So you don't have to do any of the complicated shit. You can just get in and get it. So you get in, run around, grab something, and beat people up with it. Yeah, so basically the brawl mode is just a condensed version of the game where you're just fighting.
Starting point is 00:46:14 You're not, you don't have to worry about managing anything. Boy, that looks like it would take up a lot of time. Oh, buddy. Yeah, because here's the thing. This was crazy about shit like that is if you're, if somehow you end up in a game where everyone knows what they're doing and everyone's communicating, one of those games can be over in 25 minutes. But if you're on a, that's probably not going to happen. So it can go anywhere from 25 minutes to an hour. I've seen games go an hour.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah. So it's like, but if a game is going that long, it's just because it's either because people are playing with you. Because it's one of those things where like, if you get behind to a certain point, you can't come back. That's the whole point of the game. Oh, really? Yeah, the whole point of the snowball is like,
Starting point is 00:46:58 I'm so much stronger than you that there's nothing you can do. It gets to the point where I'm just abusing you. Okay. Is this because they've collected the most stuff? Because they just had, they've had the most. money for the longest. Oh. And they can just keep buying better and better shit than you.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And there's nothing you can do about it. But my point is, the point is for you to get to a certain point and just end the game. But some people don't know when that is, you know? Here's the quick three-sentence overview of what the game is. Is futuristic urban fantasy New York. Your God's part of an occult ritual trying to destroy each other. Yeah. So the back story is an event happened called the mouse.
Starting point is 00:47:37 that Yeah No, this is just the back story It opened up a portal That let magic And magic into the world And all of these people Got all these abilities
Starting point is 00:47:48 And powers and stuff like that And there's two opposing gods In some other dimension And they want you to summon them So they can cross over Into this realm And so they're So the team you're on
Starting point is 00:48:03 Is whichever God you're working for Right And if you, when you win the game That's supposed to be completing the ritual, and if you help complete the ritual, you get a wish. And so when you go to each character, it tells you their backstory and what they want, what wish they want when they get there. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, and some people don't want nothing. They just want to fuck people up. And how long have you been playing this game? It's been probably, I don't know, a year and a half. So this seems super complicated and like it would dedicate a considerable amount of thinking. It's very complex. You, because you don't, you, you don't even know what the fuck you're doing for like the first 200 hours. Like, it takes about 200 hours before you're like, okay, I kind of, I kind of get what's going on.
Starting point is 00:48:47 This is the kind of things that people without kids say. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. I just, I can't. I'm not, I'm definitely, I'm definitely a 43 year old child. Like, I don't live like an adult. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I live like almost like a frat, like a frat boy or something. Well, if you could pull it off. Those are, when you ask people, some of the happiest times of their life. Oh, yeah, for that, yeah, from that. Well, they were young and free, especially people that don't like what they do, right? People get a job and they don't like it, and then they have responsibilities since they can't leave their job. Shit, or people that get a wife and don't like her. That happens a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:23 That happens too much. Boy, that happens too. And a husband you don't like, too, both sides. Oh, yeah. That's probably worse. That happens. Well, both of them are bad, but it happens a lot. A lot of people. Are you gaming one of these, Brian? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Not yet. That was... Come on, dog. That's insane. That's life. But that seems like how you should be playing a game like this. Yeah, in a dark room. Let's talk.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah. I mean, but the thing is that... I don't think that chair is very comfortable. How dare you? That chair goes upside down. You're laying down, brother. There's versions of it you could make... You could customize it.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Oh, shit. How much? Six grand? So, wait a minute. This is zero gravity. Watch. Hit the different images. Look it.
Starting point is 00:50:02 It's like that, Brian. Oh, that's crazy. That's what I'm talking about? That's great. What else does it do? Does it massage? It sucks your dick. I mean, 10 grand is wild.
Starting point is 00:50:09 A mouth comes out. Just sucks your dick. Yeah, I'll take that. Can you pissing that thing? Well, you used to be 10 grand. It's on sale. They have the one that's also like the bed. Have you seen the bed version?
Starting point is 00:50:19 The what? Well, this one second. This one does go backwards, right? Show a version of it where it's completely reclined. That's what I was trying to. You got the shit, don't you jamie? No, but I've just wants it. Oh, it's a scorpion.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Let me show you something else. Hold on that. So. That's pretty wicked. And so you can adjust that and you can make the screen right in front of your face. Yeah, bro, I'm about to skip full heart treatments and get that chair. I'm about to do that motherfucker. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:50:52 That one's pretty cool, too. Oh, see, that? I actually prefer what we're looking at here. Do you? You prefer that to the one that you lie back? No, because I don't use a control. The only games I use a controller with is, man. So you're a mouse and keyboard guy
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah, almost exclusively That's what I have A little futon Built on a little I never I never figured out how to use those things No fuck that futon Listen if you're gonna Who's choosing a futon
Starting point is 00:51:19 If you got the money for a good gaming PC You bet not have no futon Well that's he just went all in On the gaming PC Yeah I mean no choice No chance of pussy My shit's got kind of It's gotten kind of crazy
Starting point is 00:51:31 Recently Yeah Oh yeah Did I ain't ever show you Check this shit out What's got Um, hold on, make sure. Are there any other ones that do it with an even bigger screen like that?
Starting point is 00:51:41 That kind of a deal? Like, what is the ultimate setup for, like, somebody, like, Bill Gates. There's a new, like, the F1 rig we have. Yeah. There's a new screen that's come out that's like a 100, that's like even, I don't know. So that's my shit right there. Ooh. Oh, you got a dual monitor set up.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Curved monitors. To a dope super ultra-watt That's a problem Yeah, it's a problem That's a problem Yeah, it is I'm gonna send this to me Send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie
Starting point is 00:52:16 Oh do you have Jamie's number? Yeah, I know I got Jamie Send it to Jamie Because that image is crazy We need to show people that image That's a problem If I had that, that'd be a real problem Jamie, don't know
Starting point is 00:52:26 I got your number going on. I do my best writing Like when I get the most done on my laptop because I don't ever look at anything else on that laptop. The only time I use the internet at all is to check things to find out if something's real. And even that I don't use anymore because I use perplexity for that now. I just talk into the phone. But if you have that much distraction, like two monitors like that, I would never leave.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I would just be playing games all. It's too fun. It's too much. It's too much sometimes. It is. It is. They're a fucking problem, man. Games are a problem.
Starting point is 00:53:09 They're so good. You know what it is, man? It's a dopamine drip. Look at that. Look at that setup. Bro. What's that thing on the right? That is for controlling the sound.
Starting point is 00:53:23 So basically, like, so say I'm in the chat. I'm in the Discord chat. and I got a YouTube video playing and I'm in the middle of a game, right? Right. Then I don't, I can reach over and turn down the volume of the game so I can hear somebody more clearly or turn up the music without having to open up anything on my. That's crazy. You are an addict.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Jamie, you don't have that, do you? I was going to show you mine. He's got, I haven't got way more than that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Jamie's out of control. I have a soundboard played or connected into mine so I can fuck with people
Starting point is 00:54:05 and call the duty chats and stuff. It's hilarious. Can you blur that top thing? Yeah, I will. It's got people's names. Yeah, I will. Yeah, but I can record live sound when someone's chatting
Starting point is 00:54:16 and I can record their voice and play it back, like, instantly. That's amazing. This is me not streaming. I'm going to start streaming this summer, so I'm going to have to add a couple of themes. So he's going to start playing video games and streaming it?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yeah, yeah. You can make a lot of money doing it. Easy money, too. It's crazy because you're already going to play games, right? I know some people just like, they don't go on the road because they make so much money doing this. Wow. But the problem is, how long is that going to last? Going on the road is forever.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Oh, yeah, but you can always do that. Yeah, but you might not have an audience anymore. You have that audience? Oh, that's true. Yeah. They'll be still stuck on those video games. You ever have had T. Payne on here? No.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Yeah, T. Payne, he's one, like, he's like, you got to offer me a lot of money. Because he still goes on the road, but it's like, you got to pay him. Because he's like, why would I leave, why would I take less money to leave my house? So he just streams? He streams, yeah. His setup he's got is fucking crazy. It's insane. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:55:08 He's like, we have one F1 setup. I think he bought six. He's got his whole studios in one room. He's got the racing room over here. He's got, I think probably four different rooms. And he'll game or he'll have own guests or he'll just make a song live in front of you. Wow. This is his normal live setup he's got.
Starting point is 00:55:30 He's got... Oh, my God. Set-ups he's got multiple screens around there. Oh, that's crazy. So he has a whole room dedicated. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. It's all wired together, too.
Starting point is 00:55:41 So when he's streaming, how is he making money? Sponsors. I think he's definitely a Twitch partner of some kind. Okay. So you get sponsors and, like, how much you think he's making? Fuck, I couldn't. I don't even. I mean, if I had to specify,
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, speculate. I would say he's probably making pulling in at least a quarter million a month or something like that. Probably more than that. Just playing video games. Just streaming. He only has to play video games. Sometimes he's just talking. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Well, there's a lot of that, right? A lot of streamers. Yeah, there's... Like a lot of political streamers. They're just talking. There's different people that do different things. There's in, they call them IRL streamers. There's nuisance streamers.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Nucence? Yeah, they just walk around. Just fuck with people? Yeah. This is? We got two drip simulators, two circuit racing simulators, and one flight simulator down there in the end. So this is the VR room. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:35 The computer I play on is right here. You step down here. Whoa. It's VR. We got sensors and the roof. This is the workshop. It was just a utility room, but I'm like, why not put 3D printers in there? This is 3D printers.
Starting point is 00:56:47 As you can see, I took a lot of inspiration from Tron. That's amazing. And he's married, though. Yeah, but he's making money. How's his wife can complain? You want to go shopping? Listen, lady, this is how we make the money for you to go shopping. You're right, you're right.
Starting point is 00:57:05 You know, I mean, she can't complain if that's what you actually earn money at. You know, my wife used to complain about the podcast before it started making money. Really? Well, she was like, you don't have to do that. I was like, I do it. I have to do it. I told people I'd be doing it on Monday at X amount of whatever, whatever time it was. But that's just always. How long until you were like, I can fucking just make it money?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Oh, it took years. I didn't even try. I never tried to make any money with it. I always did it for free. I did it for fun for how many years? I didn't make money for years. Oh, wow. Zero money for years. I never even thought of it making money. It was just for fun. I would just have everybody come over like Seguer would come over Eddie Bravo would come over Joe would come over Duncan. We would just talk shit and just have laughs. It was just for fun. We enjoyed the shit out of it. We had a vaporizer this giant bag The volcano Oh my God The thing was horrendous
Starting point is 00:57:59 I remember when them things first came out They fucked a lot of people's world A lot of people fucked up There's a lot of podcasts in the early days That are unlistenable or watchable Because we're just obliterated And I thought it could never get past that And now they got
Starting point is 00:58:12 You know Then people came out with the dabs Bro jelly roll has this machine It looks like a robot It looks like a little like a little Pokemon robot Yeah wait is it that Because Frank Castillo is when He's like sponsored by those people.
Starting point is 00:58:26 That's great. Those things are crazy. What's it called peak? The peak people. You know what? I don't know if it's a peak. It's a device. It scared me just looking at it.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Can you look up the Peak Pro? It's big like this, like this French press. It's fucking huge. And listen, and every time I see Frank, they've come out with a new one. They have one that's like a Sirlock Holmes pipe. It's all electronic and it's all for dabs. But every time he visits me, he's like, hey, bro, check this shit out. People like him of this reason why weed still isn't legal.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Well, actually, I just raised something to date that, Trump is making... It's Schedule 3 now. Oh, it's done. It's done. Weed. Yeah, weed is Schedule 3. So, Schedule 3.
Starting point is 00:59:01 First of all, it should be right with alcohol. If you're 21, leave me the fuck alone. What schedule is alcohol? Alcohol is not scheduled. It's not a prohibitive substance. I don't think alcohol is scheduled like that. Alcohol for 21 and older is totally legal. So Schedule 1, which is where weed was, which is so crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:21 It's like the most dangerous. It said it had no medicinal benefits. harm addiction. Now, I won't argue addiction because I don't think I totally understand it the way other people understand it. I think it's highly genetic. I think addiction is very genetic
Starting point is 00:59:38 because people keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine is addictive. I recently got off of nicotine patches and I started taking ultra patches. Do you know what these are? Pouches, rather? It's like neutropics. It's like vitamins, like brain vitamins.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Nicotine in there? No, no, no, no nicotine. And when I started doing it, I was like, okay, I wonder if I'm going to, like, I've been doing it. You want to try one? Here. That one's empty. I just bought these over Amazon. But I was like, I've done it before when I went on vacation.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Like, I didn't have them at all. And I didn't have any withdrawals. But then I talked to McCann. And McCann said that when he got off of him, it was like two weeks where he was like fucking super tense and yelling at people. No, no, no. Oh, nicotine. Pouchees or cigarettes. He got off of all of it. And then I hear but so my point is I think it's a biological thing. I don't think I have the biologial. I get addicted to stuff. I get addicted to doing things. I got I used to be addicted to video games. I would definitely get addicted again if I started playing. I get addicted to pool. I get addicted to martial arts. I get addicted to doing stuff. I get addicted to archery. But I don't think I get a did I probably.
Starting point is 01:00:54 would if it was like oxies or something like that. I think that's just too strong. That would just get me. I think I'm too much of a control freak to get addicted to any kind of hard. Well, you quit cigarettes like that. Yeah, but you know what? You know why it was easy? It's because I had a heart attack.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah, but the heart attack did it for you. It did. Oh. And I already felt like shit, so I didn't go, I didn't, the withdrawals with nothing. I'm going to send you something, Jamie. This is kind of crazy. But I sent this to Tom Cigarette. I said, it's time to start smoking again.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Because there's this guy that's making this argument that there's a benefit to smoking as long as you do it with the proper diet that there's some sort of an actual benefit to cigarette smoking because one of the things about these blue zones or people like live forever a lot of these people that are like living that are really old they smoke cigarettes yeah that's what chipped me to fuck out like you know every time they every time they go this is the oldest person alive they're 109 right and they ask them they go what's your secret nigga uh smoke I drink fire water. So listen to this.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Smoking is good for them. Top heart surgeon's claim is breaking the internet. Clip is exploding after cardiothoracic surgeon, Dr. Stephen Gundry made a claim that's turning everything people thought they knew about smoking upside down. His argument is smoking, specifically nicotine, can have real benefits when paired with the right lifestyle. At one point he even says about a patient, probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well.
Starting point is 01:02:18 It points to long-living populations where heavy smoking is common, claims that a part of Sardinia, 95% of men smoke and live longer than the women, says nicotine acts as a powerful mitochondrial uncoupler, argues that the damage blamed on smoking can be offset by diet and suggest that we've been looking at it completely backwards. According to him, the real question isn't why smoking harms people. It's why some smokers live longer in what we're missing. So there's a video in here Listen to him talk about it because it's Eight minutes long Yeah but just play a little bit of it Because it's kind of interesting
Starting point is 01:02:54 Credit to Dr. Mike on YouTube I've been smoking for 45 years And they're living a healthy life And they say it's because I smoke And obviously we laugh about it Because we all agree that it's not true So why did this one case move you so? Actually let me stop you right there
Starting point is 01:03:12 Probably it's because he smoked That he's doing so well Okay, we need to back up. How do we get there? Well, I have a whole chapter in gut check, looking at the healthiest, longest living people. And one of the unique features of most of the blue zones is that, particularly the men, are heavy smokers. And the smoking, actually, the nicotine in cigarettes, is one of the best mitochondrial on couplers that's ever been discovered. and we've looked at this through the wrong lens.
Starting point is 01:03:46 We said, wow, what other healthy lifestyle things are these guys doing that's preventing smoking from harming them? In fact, we should have looked at it the other way. What is it about these people who are smokers that allows them to live to 105, 110 years old? And when you do that, then you say, okay, smoking was good for them. Why don't we see the oxidative stress that smoking, we all. know occurs, why don't we see the cancers in these people? And it's because the rest of their diet facilitates the absorption of the oxidative stress in these guys. So your state is that
Starting point is 01:04:24 if you smoke but eat in this specific way, you can negate the effects of smoking, the negative effects of smoking. Yeah, what's fascinating as a heart surgeon, way back in the good old days, most of our patients were smokers. And they had specific proxomal lesions in their coronary. arteries the rest of their blood vessels were absolutely gorgeous and they were skinny for the most part so how did you gauge that did you what i mean we operate on but you operate on what other vessels that you saw like you would do peripheral arterial disease screenings on those patients and you would find i used to operate on because one of the number one risk factors for peripheral arterial disease of smoking correct because the smoking the oxidative stress
Starting point is 01:05:12 isn't isn't stopped by our current diet. Let me give you an example. Okay. We're one of the few animals that don't make vitamin C. And vitamin C, and I've written about this.
Starting point is 01:05:28 We get it. I mean, he's... I don't understand what he said. I was to send people to Dr. Mike's YouTube channel for the rest of it, but... Dr. Mike wasn't having it. Well, he didn't know. I mean, this guy's the expert,
Starting point is 01:05:40 and this guy lays it. Mr. Mike's open-minded. He's probably what he's saying is making sense. It makes sense to me. It's the poor diet. That's why I was hoping that video would give me hope. But I'm like, bro, if I could change my diet, I wouldn't have had the heart of that day. You know what I'm going to say?
Starting point is 01:05:59 Oh, so I'm going to get this perfect diet so I can smoke the diet. I don't think it's a perfect diet. I think you just got to move to Italy. But whenever I go there on vacation, I'm like, why am I trying so hard? What am I doing? How come I'm not just for chilling? Well, you know, that's the thing about Italy is they have a culture of chilling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Like, their culture, I forget what they call it, but is it siesta? No, that's Mexicans. They call it like that nap they take during the middle of the day. Yeah, that's only, no, no, no, it's a Spanish thing too. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they, I didn't know they did it in Mexico. Well, obviously it's a Spanish word, right?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Yeah, I didn't know they did it in Mexico, but the Spanish thing. The Spanish are like, nah, middle of the afternoon, everybody napping. Yeah, my friend went. went to the Ferrari factory in Italy. And he said, dude, it's hilarious. He goes, they barely work. He goes, like, the reason why it takes so long to get a Ferrari. He goes, these motherfuckers are just chilling.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And he goes, they take these big long, oh, it was Lamborghini. Yeah, he said they take these big long breaks for lunch. They eat pasta and they drink wine and they lay down. They take a couple hours for lunch. And then they work a few more hours and then they go home. They got to figure it out. Well, I think we work too much, you know. and this is coming from someone who works too much,
Starting point is 01:07:12 but I work too much at things I love. It's a different thing, I think, than most people. Most people are working too much as something that's just making the money and they're probably stressed out all the time and don't enjoy it. But I think if you are working less
Starting point is 01:07:27 and just having more enjoyment in life, what are we here for? See, that's why I think subconsciously, that's why I've been avoiding streaming. I've been talking about it for years because I'm like, if I start making money from streaming, And then it becomes a job.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Bro, I'm going to be like that. You know that fat kid in the chair and Wally? You ever see that movie? Yeah. I'm going to transform into that. Just Uber eats. Yeah, if I just thought to get millions of dollars. Millions of dollars just eating and laying there.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Everybody locked into the discord. And no exercise at all. Oh, yeah. Well, the more you stream, the more you make, right? So there's people that stream more than eight hours a day, don't they? I mean, theoretically, yeah. But some people stream a lot and they don't make shit, you know? Yeah, but that's also podcasting.
Starting point is 01:08:10 There's a lot of people that are doing podcasts that aren't making any money. Yeah, so yeah, but you got a stream to make money. You got to be on. Yeah, but it's a very specific type of audience, too, though. It's people that are watching streams, very different audience than who's watching podcasts, I would imagine. That's hard to say. Yeah. It's hard to say, yeah, because I think I don't know if those, there's probably a lot of overlap in those audiences.
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Starting point is 01:08:55 I don't think smoking is good for your lungs. I think it's bad for your lungs, because everybody didn't know they quit smoking. They say their cardio gets better. This stuff, that interview you, or we shared came out two years ago. Oh, did it? And there was some controversy around it.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Well, clearly. What is a blue zone? Well, that doctor goes in. It's places where people live longer. Oh, okay. Okay, so here what it says. Key details regarding Dr. Gundry's statements. Controversial claims.
Starting point is 01:09:21 In a conversation with Dr. Mike, Gundry suggested smoking could be linked to longer life, observing that some long-lived individuals in blue zone smoke. Mechanism theory. Gundry argues that nicotine functions as a mitochondrial uncoupler and that a high polyphenol diet may mitigate the negative effects of cigarette smoke. Criticism, experts strongly disagree, noting that smoke is the leading cause of premature death and that any potential benefits are far outweighed by risks. Right, but they're not taking into consideration what he said about food.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Despite the headlines, Gunley stated he does not smoke and does not encourage others to do so. So he's just a scientist relaying research. Yeah, so what do the critics strongly disagreeing? They say they're not making any sense because they're disagreeing, but they're not addressing what he's saying in terms of the high polyphenol diet. mitigating the negative effects of smoking. Yeah, I mean, that's all he said was what he observed. This is what I think in my years of trying and using nicotine. I think there's something to nicotine.
Starting point is 01:10:20 The reason why I am backing off of it is it fucks up my pool game. Really? Yeah, nicotine gives you a lot of energy. And I think like these Alps, these are like six milligrams. And then there's Lucy's, I have Lucis that are 12. But you put them in your mouth, it's like you're sucking on a battery. It's so strong. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:10:41 They make you jittery, and jittery is not good for pool. Pool is a chill game. Pool is like you're concentrating, but you want to be completely calm when you're stroking the ball. Like your hand, you're barely holding on to that cue. I hold on the cue like I'm holding a baby bird. You know, it's very calm. You don't want to be like, ah. You know, so a lot of people stop drinking coffee because they play pool.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Word? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But nicotine in particular, which is a very important, which is a lot of. interesting because I know a lot of people who smoke cigarettes who play really well. Maybe it's a different feeling in terms of like how it affects your body. See, that's a good question. How much nicotine is in a cigarette versus like one of these Alp pouches? These Alp pouches is Tucker Carlson's company. It's probably also has to do with like your level of addiction. Like some people are fully. Yeah. Some people smoke all day. Yeah, they need cigarettes just to be back to zero.
Starting point is 01:11:35 John Mellencamp, he was in here? That dude, John. That was like one of the big things, like, can I smoke during the podcast? I'm like, absolutely, no worries. I go, we got a fan. We smoke cigars all the time. So he just chain smoke, the entire podcast. And he said, find what you love and let it kill you. That's what he said about cigarette smoking.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Oh, yeah, that's a chast. Who's that quote from? I don't know. Typical nicotine amounts. Okay. Standard factory made cigarette usually contains about 10 to 14 milligrams of nicotine and tobacco, which an average smoker absorbs around one to two. milligrams when smoking it.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Nicotine pouches are sold in strengths that commonly range from two milligrams up to 12 or more of nicotine per pouch. CDC notes that they can contain high levels of nicotine. Pouches that with six milligrams nicotine or less were most common, but higher strength eight milligram pouches have been growing quickly. Yeah, because people are getting addicted. Cigarettes deliver nicotine to the brain very fast within 10 to 20 seconds after inhalation, which makes them highly reinforcing and strongly addictive.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Pouches release nicotine through the lining of the mouth, so the rise in blood nicotine is slower and more prolonged compared with a cigarette hit, though total absorbed dose over 20 to 60 minutes can be similar depending upon strength or how long the pouches use. But the thing about pouches is people just keep popping them. Like Shane, that dude just pops them every 10 minutes. He's popping 6 milligrams every 10 minutes. Combustible cigarettes are clearly more harmful overall.
Starting point is 01:13:06 because smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals, many toxic and carcinogenic, whereas pouches avoid combustion but still expose you to an addictive drug with cardiovascular effects. That's why I'm convinced that people that do all the other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers are. Well, I'll tell you one thing that I felt was the most addictive version of that that I tried was vaping. Those like Escobar things, those are weird. Here's another weird thing about those vaping ones. The only good hit is the first hit, maybe the second of the day. Have you seen how vapors act when they can't find their vape?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Oh, they freak out. It is. They get sketchy. It's crazy. Yeah. They get crazy. I saw, I was in D.C. last year, and I popped in on this comedy spot. And I go to the bathroom and there's a vape sitting on the sink.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Like somebody put a vape there to wash their hands or something. and I go out to the bar and I remember all the comics I remember I bought the comics the comics are at the bar waiting to go up and I bought around for the comics and one of them was like oh thanks man got up went to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:14:19 came back sat next to his friend and was like oh bro I found this vaping there and they both hit this vape so they went he took a vape out the bathroom that somebody else was just sucking on some guy who could have been eating ass just 20 minutes ago also it was on the sink in the back in the men's room at a comedy club
Starting point is 01:14:36 That's crazy. Hey, I found it. Let's take hits off of it. Yeah, it's like, that's crazy. It would be tough if that was my vape and I set it on the counter and I'm like, oh, shit. Because that's probably what happened. Somebody said it there out of reflex and was like, I don't want that shit. It's right here with all this filthy.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Maybe, or maybe they're like, I got to leave this thing here. This men's room sink water? Nah, you could keep that. You could keep that. These guys are just sucking on it at the bar. But I guess if you're dipping in whiskey, it'd be all right. Just dip it in your glass before you take a hit. You could just wait till you get to your vape.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Because it's not like you got one. The first hit is the only one that's good. The first hit is like euphoric. The first hit of like an Escobar, you're like this like, oh yeah. Everything's amazing. But that you don't get that with a second hit. It doesn't like maintain.
Starting point is 01:15:26 After a while you're just taking hits and you just feel nervous. Like this is terrible. This doesn't feel good. But it's the first hit. The first hit's wonderful. Oh, yeah. You know how many paupers? had to curse out because they unplug my phone.
Starting point is 01:15:38 They're plug in their stupid fucking vane. They're like, yo, what? Yo, you was at 30%. I'm like, what the fuck? It's wrong with you. I need it all day. Right. Don't unplug my shit.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Junkies. They really are, man. Junkies. Oh, they're junkies. I see people hit him all the time. And they hit them like a fiend. And you know, the worst thing is the people that they try to start vaping, like to replace smoking.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Do they just end up doing both? Well, I think the vaping is more. addicted than smoking. Oh yeah, because you can, you know why? It's because one, like you said, I think you're getting delivered more nicotine than a smoker will get, even though, look, smoking has other bad shit that you're putting in you, you know, but in terms of addiction is what I'm saying. I'm not saying vaping is worse for you, but you're getting more nicotine and you can
Starting point is 01:16:28 vape in places you can't smoke. And on top of that, you're getting all these weird oils and chemicals and stuff in there that aren't good for you. But you can vape anytime. Right. You can vape. You can vape. But you know, people are getting these new diseases like popcorn lung.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Have you heard of that? I heard of that, but I ain't heard nobody that got it. I've heard like, you know, it's one of those like, what do you call them, urban myths or urban? There's a kid that I knew back in California. He was one of the people in our neighborhood's child. And he was 19. And he was in college and he was vaping like crazy. He was vaping all day long.
Starting point is 01:17:04 And he got pneumonia. wound up dying. Oh. And they connected it to the vape. Like, he had destroyed his lungs. The kids are damaging their lungs. But you know, I think that started back when, you remember when some people have, like, the adjustable ones where, like, you, where, like,
Starting point is 01:17:17 Oh, the big ones. Yeah, crazy ones. Because now the popular ones are, like, the disposable ones. Adam Curry has one of them big jammies. Yeah, one of them big rigs. Look at a lunchbox. I think people were going crazy back then. Like, in the beginning of it, when nobody knew a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:30 The real vapors, man, they still go crazy. But they're doing it themselves. They think it's healthier. They're getting their own nicotine drops. They're putting it in the thing and they're putting their own oil. They're using like MCT oil because it's healthy. This organic poison.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yeah. Whereas like if you're getting it from a factory in China or Vietnam, have you ever seen that one, there's one video of a dude who has to test every vape when it comes out of the factory. With his mouth? With his mouth. The ones you get, have already been sucked on.
Starting point is 01:17:57 So this dude is just sucked in Vietnam. Just, I don't know where he is. He might be in Laos. He just sucking, just wherever this vaeat. is this dude just sucking on this vape over and over and over again everybody's vape he sucks on once to make sure it's good before he sends it out where we're doomed so this guy's got what is his dose of caffeine in a day it must be off the charts yeah so that's the other thing I think vapors are more addicted because
Starting point is 01:18:23 they get more nicotine they just get to do it they just do it yes you could definitely do it but I'm telling you it's like you don't get the good feeling like it's weird it's weird like a cigar like the relax The good nicotine feeling of a cigar You get that like every time you take a hit out of a cigar That's not the case with a vape at least not for me look at this dude He's sucking on every one of these checking them out look that's nuts They gotta make sure they're good like how vaped out is this cat
Starting point is 01:18:55 That's probably how that that's probably what he gets paid and just vapes just smoke I mean how many fucking thousands of vapes is this kid sucking on it a day how many do you test in a day? How many do you test in a day? he says around 7 to 8,000 tests per day Jesus Christ Does that dude sleep at all He probably dreams And like horrible black and white
Starting point is 01:19:20 Like lightning bolts And he also smokes after work Oh my God Someone should see how long that guy lives Bro, that boy's honor He's done Yeah he's not in the blue zone Not it's fucked
Starting point is 01:19:33 Oh bro I was just looking at popple corn lung Yeah It's older, it's developed, according to this, it came around 2000 when people at an actual popcorn factory. Whoa. Were exposed to a chemical that was causing this called broncholitis obliterans. Bro, look at this. It's first recognized from clusters of workers at a microwave popcorn factory exposed to the butter flavoring chemical diacetyl.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Wow. I thought it made your lungs look like popcorn. This is saying it's like it's super rare for outside of that actually though. Cancer researchers, UK states that there have been no confirmed cases of popcorn lung specifically caused by e-cigarettes, although some older e-liquids contain diacetyl before regulations tightened. Do you think that's like big tobacco trying to scare people away from vapes? No, no.
Starting point is 01:20:26 No, I think they're investing in that shit. Yeah, but if they don't, like what if it's like some companies maybe don't? And they're worried that these cheap vapes. Well, there's only, there's only three companies. Big Tobacco is really big tobacco. So it's RJ Reynolds. What are the other ones? Philip Morris or is it Philip Morris?
Starting point is 01:20:45 And then there's a, and then there's an overseas one. Maybe there's four companies. Who's making the American spirits? It's the same people. Is the same people? There's only three or four big tobacco company. This lady, Suzanne Humphreys, who's a doctor, she was making the argument that those cigarettes are probably not even that bad for you. And they own, and they see the writing on the,
Starting point is 01:21:04 the wall. Like they own all the patch companies? Of course. Of course. Why wouldn't they? Because the writing's on the wall. They were talking about it in Canada and now I think they're trying to do it in the UK where basically like people of a certain age will never be able to buy cigarettes. Yeah. I think they're doing that in Canada right now. They're definitely doing that in the UK. That's right. No, Americans' Superior Cigarettes are not safer than other cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Despite marketing that highlights natural and addictive free tobacco, studies show they contain similar levels of toxic cancer-causing chemicals as other brands. Research suggests they may even be more addictive due to higher nicotine levels. No reduced harm, no evidence of the absence of additives make cigarette smokes less harmful. On high nicotine addiction, studies have found that many varieties have higher nicotine yields compared to other popular brands suggesting higher addictiveness misleading marketing. FDA previously required the manufacturers to stop using natural and additive free in marketing as these terms falsely implied lower risk.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Why does that imply lower risk if you say additive free? Consumer misconception. 64% of American spirit smokers incorrectly believe they're less harmful often because of their natural branding. This lady, this doctor was making that argument. She was saying the chemicals
Starting point is 01:22:22 that they add to cigarettes that make them more addictive. Like, remember that Russell Crow movie, the insider? Remember that movie? Mm-hmm. Good movie. So about a guy who is a,
Starting point is 01:22:32 a true story, about a guy who's a doctor who works at a tobacco company that makes cigarettes. And he's specifically formulating these chemicals in order to make people way more addicted. And then he has to go to court and they try to kill him. It's like, you know, big kind of whistleblower type drama. But that was the premise of that film, which is also based on real life. And what she's saying is that those chemicals that make you more addictive are probably much more dangerous. and that just the actual tobacco itself is probably not as dangerous. She wasn't definitively stating this.
Starting point is 01:23:06 She was just saying that most likely they're probably safer for you. Well, the American Spirit ones also, you smoke less because they take forever to smoke. So every time I was smoking around an American Spirit smoker, you know, you'll see a damn three quarters of a cigarette left in the ashtray. Do you think that those like Marlboro's and shit like that, like they smoke quicker? on purpose so that you smoke more of them. I think they're, they're probably gunpowder in there. I think something they add to them make them make a bird faster. Because that's the thing with American Spirit, you sit it down and it'll go out.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Right. But if you, if I was the light of Marlboro and sit it down there, it would burn all the way up. Right. I think they do that so you weigh cigarettes. That makes sense. Oh yeah, for sure. That makes sense. Yeah, because they probably calculate over time how much money that would be.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Yeah, in fact, I read somewhere like that is why there are 20 packs in a cigarette 20 cigarettes in a pack is because they discovered that that's exactly how many you needed to smoke as much as possible in one day. Like in terms of how long it's in your system and when you start getting another craving, you can smoke. Well, that's crazy because some people smoke two packs a day,
Starting point is 01:24:17 three packs of day. Yeah, those people are like, oh. Animals. How are they alive? I don't know, but I was getting close. What were you at? I was at a little over, like I was at a little over a pack a day. where I would go through a whole pack
Starting point is 01:24:31 and then tip into the next bag. And then dip into the next bag. Yeah. It makes sense that they would buy patches. Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have alternatives? Like gum, nicorette?
Starting point is 01:24:44 Years ago, the VA tried to get me to quit and they prescribed me the patches. Yeah. But like that said, there's 12 to 14 milligrams in a cigarette, but you only end up getting one or two. Right. But the patches,
Starting point is 01:24:59 is five. The lowest, the lowest step of the patch is five. And do you feel it? Yeah, you have crazy fucking dreams too. Whoa. You put one of them patches on before you go to bed. You're going to have a fucking crazy dream. And now you're more addicted.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Oh. Right? Because you're not used to getting five. Now you're getting five all night. You wake up like, oh shit. You're not used to getting nicotine all night. Ron White used to wear a patch and smoke all day. Yeah, that's what I was about to tell you. It's like everybody I knew that got on the patches. Was patching and smoking. Yeah, Ron was patching and smoking and then one hypnotism session.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Quit, everything, cold turkey. Really? Yep. That's weird because he don't seem very suggestible. I know, right? Yeah, I mean, I don't think I've ever seen him change his mind about nothing. About nothing. All those arguments that he's had with Tony in the green room?
Starting point is 01:25:48 I live for that shit. I live for those moments. It was hilarious. Ron digs his heels in. As soon as I hear Ron go, well, well. Yeah. All right now. Well, that's not my experience.
Starting point is 01:26:00 He was wearing the patch, and he was smoking those little cigars. You know, those little cigars? He was smoking them like cigarettes. You're supposed to not inhale those little suckers. Like, those little suckers have way more nicotine. You know those little tiny Monte Cristo's, those little things? You're supposed to smoke those like a cigar. Like when I smoke them, I try to smoke them like a cigar.
Starting point is 01:26:22 You hold it in your mind. It's a tiny cigar. You can't tell these Texas gentlemen. Yeah. Not to smoke nothing. Well, Ron has got amazing willpower because he got off the alcohol and just done. Never touched it again. Got off the cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Done. Never touched him again. Yeah, I love that guy. He's the best. He's the best. But it's like that ability to just turn something off like that. The amount of money. How much money?
Starting point is 01:26:50 Let's look at that. How much money is in the nicotine business overall in America? It's probably way more now with pouches and vaping. on top of cigarettes. I think it's less now. But I bet the cigarettes probably have been less. But now so many people are in the pouches and so many people are vaping.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Well, the thing is, I think there's less money overall, but that's why there's less companies because they keep getting bought. Right. Because people are smoking, like, the kids are smoke way less. Cigarettes. Way less cigarettes, and they don't vape as much as we think. But I think there are a lot of them around the Zins.
Starting point is 01:27:29 A lot of them are on pouches. Let's guess. What do you think the overall industry of cigarettes or nicotine? Nicotine products in America. The collective amount of money that nicotine products in America generate every year. I'm going to say $10 billion. Yeah, that sounds about right. It's less than $10 billion.
Starting point is 01:27:51 For the whole country, I'll say $6. Let's say $6 billion because there's $350 million plus Mexicans. That's just for the... oral nicotine. Is how much? Six. Whoa. Cigarettes is way higher.
Starting point is 01:28:07 What is cigarettes? 76. Billion? Billion. Oh, shit. That's more than sports. That's crazy. Football.
Starting point is 01:28:18 That's crazy. It's crazy. Like cigars. Cigars in like the, speaking of witch. Okay, but what was it 20 years ago? Was it higher?
Starting point is 01:28:30 It doesn't have 20 years ago from what I looked But it does it has grown It's growing slowly every year It's a total of $100 billion When you include everything together That's crazy Well I mean but it isn't really crazy Because it's one of the
Starting point is 01:28:43 It's one of the legal and socially acceptable Drugs to be on All day Yeah you can smoke it Because you can't even drink at work Especially if you use pouches now Everybody's using pouches They're predicting the pouches
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Starting point is 01:30:08 They have neotropic benefits. Like, they do enhance your cognitive performance. Nicotine does. And there's a lot of people that swear by them, like for creativity and stuff. One of the things that Stephen King talked about in that book on writing was that one of his biggest, bumps in the road with his writing careers when he quit smoking. He's at a really hard time
Starting point is 01:30:32 getting his synapsis to fire the same way. It was really noticeable. The difference in quitting nicotine. But then again, his best shit he wrote when he was on Coke. He was doing coke and drinking beer. Yeah. And he wrote his best craziest shit
Starting point is 01:30:47 when he was doing that. No, but I'm going to be honest about that, though. Like, I do feel less creative or less Not less creative, but less... I don't know. It does feel like... It feels like my brain is working different.
Starting point is 01:31:05 What about cigars? You ever thought about cigars? Or you just, like, think it's too much of a gateway. Yeah, I would be right back on it. I'd be right back on it. Maybe we can get some... Are there nicotine drops, Jamie? You can just shoot it into your fucking eyeballs?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Can you fuck with the pouches at all? Or do you worry that the pouches will bring you closer to the cigarettes? No, but I've never fucked with the pouches. I don't know. You want to try one? aren't I try it? This doesn't have nicotine That is no nicotine
Starting point is 01:31:30 That's an ultra pouch Don't do it No no no Maybe the gum Maybe I'll try the gum Yeah I've tried the gum I like pouches How is that?
Starting point is 01:31:40 I like pouches better It's interesting that Like They would probably I wonder how much money Is spent How okay What is the patch
Starting point is 01:31:50 What's the patch worth Like how much does that generate You know what's wild They was trying to give me nicotine in the hospital For what? Because they knew I was a smoker and they were like, you don't want any? I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:32:02 How are they trying to give it to you in what way? I don't know if it was a pouch or a gum, but they have mints too. It had been prescribed to me and it was just sitting there and they, and they, you know, and every time a shift chain somebody would run me, hey, so you know you got some, you got some shizzaray, I was like, no, I'm okay. They, um, somebody sent me some nicotine mints and they made me nervous. Like I didn't like them. They made me feel uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Tiny slice. Okay, nicotine patches are a tiny slice. the nicotine economy, the U.S., they amount to most a few hundred million dollars per year versus tens of billions for cigarettes and other nicotine products. Yeah, but you know what? The reason they still invest in them is because every time you try to quit and you use the pouches, when you come back, you're more addicted. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:32:42 So it's just a cycle. Yeah, it's insurance that you'll get back on the cigarettes. Yeah, because I bet you they're not, they probably don't track how many people. What's so funny, Jen? Nicotine replacement. Therapy. Therapy. The global nicotine replacement.
Starting point is 01:32:56 therapy market, patches, gum, lozenges, etc. is around 3.1 billion. Therapy. Just reading that in this room. I know. It's silly. Weird conspiracy or something like it's being. Predicted to reach 4.7 billion U.S. dollars by 2034.
Starting point is 01:33:11 But it makes sense that they would invest in that. Like, you know, why wouldn't they? It's like if they're smart business people, you know? Yeah. Did you hear about that special forces soldier that got in trouble because he bet on Polly Market that Maduro was going to be kidnapped. Oh, they found out who it was. Yeah, they caught the dude.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Oh, no. Yeah, he made four, I believe he made $400,000 and he tried to cover his tracks. Oh, I thought it was like Trump's son or something. People thought it was, just assumed it was Don Jr. Well, who knows what they've done? Oh, yeah. I mean, they're probably not looking at them the same way they're looking at these special forces. You know, boy, Trump don't leave no crumbs on the table.
Starting point is 01:33:55 He's like, I did all this bread. the way out, I still need this bread. Yeah, I mean, think about that, the coin, the Trump coin. I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's legal, but it's Melania coin. If you buying any celebrities' coins,
Starting point is 01:34:10 you deserve to lose your money. But I think what Metzger explained to me, he goes, these are gambling addicts. They're gambling. He goes, they know that it's going to crash. No one's under any illusion that is going to last forever. They try to get in and get out and make money while they're doing it. It's like they just figure out
Starting point is 01:34:26 when to buy and when to sell. Yeah, but there are people that think that, you know, those are the suckers. Those are who you're getting money from. It's the ones that think it. You could look at it that way. Or you could look at it is this is an effective way to pay people off legally. So here's the thing. I'm not accusing anybody doing this, but I'm saying, let's say if I started a JRE coin.
Starting point is 01:34:49 And maybe some Middle Eastern government decided they were going to invest $500 million in a JRE coin and then I announce the JRE coin. They put in the money to back this JRE coin. I get a substantial stake in the JRE coins. So I get a bunch of JRE coins and then I just dump all my JRE coins and then it go, I get all that money and then it goes from being worth X amount of dollars to being worth almost nothing. Is that the pumping dump?
Starting point is 01:35:17 That's the pump and dump. Yeah. So that would be a way I pay you. So like say maybe if you and I had some sort of a deal that was a little shady and I said, Brian, how about this? I can't pay you outright, but what I can do is why don't you start a crypto coin? And I will invest in your crypto coin, which is a very legal venture. And I will put in $100 million into your crypto coin.
Starting point is 01:35:39 And so now your crypto coin, a bunch of people will also throw money in because there's $100 million in it, and they know that it's going to pump it dump what's going to happen, like the real clever fuckers. And then you just get out. So you get out as soon as it hits the peak. Like you get it set up so that like it maybe peaks in 24 hours or whatever the fuck it is like let's like let's and again we're not accusing anybody of anything but let's look at nor are we taking notes um let's look at trump coin how much was trump coined worth like right after it came out versus five days later so somewhere that money
Starting point is 01:36:17 has to go somewhere and so if I invested in Brian Simpson coin and then that money it got to the coin was worth. I don't know what a coin's worth. I don't know what it's worth. But let's just say it got to its peak and then you sell and you just dump all your coins. And so that you just rake in a big pile of money, millions and millions of dollars. And everybody else is like the people that like were dummies, they don't get anything. And then me, I didn't expect to get any money. I'm just trying to bribe you. I'm trying to pay you off. What the thing is? Does that make sense? Oh yeah. The thing is America is like three quarters scams.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Some people sit around complaining about the scams instead of getting in on them. Did you hear what Dr. Oz said? No. Dr. Oz works for the government now. California has a big hostile scam going on.
Starting point is 01:37:11 You know how like Minneapolis and Minnesota had the daycare scam? California has a bunch of fake hostels where they're taking care of people. That's what it is, right? So they shut funding down to 400 of them.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Not one of them complained. They're like, see ya. And so it's his assertion that that's because they were all scams. So that Nick Shirley guy, the same guy that investigated the fraud in Minneapolis, he's investigated some of the fraud in California. And one of the things that they found in some of his videos is like a lot of these businesses are registered to like a hotel.
Starting point is 01:37:47 And like every room in this vacant hotel is a different office for whatever company. And so each room in the hotel is raking in money as an office that's supposed to be working as a hostel or as some sort of a rehab center or, you know, fill in the blank. They have all these learning centers, all these different kinds of things. And it's all just government scams, Medicaid scams. Yeah, get in on the scam. Get in on the scam. Scamming is the American way. Looking at it, how you asked, isn't the best way to look at this?
Starting point is 01:38:22 Here's what it said. Of course not. show you what it says after this, though. Okay. Trump's official Trump meme coin launched at around one U.S. dollar, range reported roughly 0.18 to 1.20. And within about five days, it had it crashed down from a brief spike near 70 to 75 U.S. dollars down to a high of 30s per coin.
Starting point is 01:38:45 So that's within five days. So it's spiked at 75 and then it dropped down to 30. Different data provides slightly different start points. but they are in the same general zone. Crypto analytics notes Trump was launched on January 17, 2025, initially worth 18 cents per token, so everybody buys in when that happens. Other coverage and exchange post-described trading beginning around $1 or about $1 within the first hours after launch. So reasonable takeaway is launch price is $0.2 to $1.0 U.S. per Trump, depending on which exact tick you chose. So within first hours after launch, the price skyrocketed from around $1 to around $75 U.S. dollars.
Starting point is 01:39:31 So that's when you want to get out within the first hours. Reports the same weekend cite highs near $70 to $75 in a market cap over $10 to $12 billion. A finance report on days after launch, trading started around $7.U.S. dollars on Friday, jumped as high $74 on Sunday. So that's when you're supposed to get out. So let me ask this. What is it worth now? That's like $2 now. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:39:57 So it got as high as $74. Well, now you got holding on to it. Now you're fucked. Just in case. There's a little bit more. It's like there's more into it because it's not the easiest coin to get and how do you get it and all those kinds of things come into play. And that's kind of what I think this sentence is more about. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:14 But if it went to 75, somebody must have made a ton of loot, right? Had to. Yeah, that's what it says, right. 800,000 wallets, which could be people. Collectively lost around $2 billion, while the Trump organization and partners profited heavily from fees. Interesting. So this is the thing. Like, that's just that one.
Starting point is 01:40:36 What is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history? Let's look at that. Let's find out. Sam Bank from Freed, that shit. I think it was him, well, I think what he was doing, he said that if he was left alone, he would have recovered the debt. And that he had been doing this back and forth. They just caught him in a moment where this one guy Sold all his coins off to try to crash him on purpose like his rival and then he didn't have the money to cover the spread and then people wanted their money out and then Then they realized but he had been they all do that apparently was what his are I don't know, but that's what his argument was I believe is that I think he said that if he was not that they didn't interfere with him
Starting point is 01:41:18 not only would those coins have gotten the money back, but they would be profitable today. See, I have friends that have profited from it. But when I hear them talk about it, it's like, I just don't quite understand it fully. I feel exactly somewhere. And I can't put my money in some shit that I can't. If I can't articulate how I can make money, I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yeah, not only do I not understand it, I don't trust it. It sounds crazy to me. I don't mean. The people that try to talk you into it, they freak me out. Well, a lot of times they just, no, there's a new scam. Somebody in my family are getting caught up with these fucking scammers. But they're finding elderly, it's like going through the elderly community, a new Ponzi pyramid, Ponzi scheme.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Oh, no. And basically, they're telling these old folks that they are joining a crypto exchange. But the crypto isn't real. So they download, they download this app. And they're telling them, all you got to do is get them, every morning and make these trades and you make, you make this much percent of your money
Starting point is 01:42:24 back. And so, and they go, and you know what, and just so you know it's not a scam, I'm going to put in a grand for you. I'm going to put in $5.5. I put it, I put in $5.000 for you. But you don't realize that money's fake, too. You download the app. They can show you have how much money you want. But you can't get that money out. So here's how they get you.
Starting point is 01:42:40 So they get you either way. So if you do, so the ultimate plan is to lull you into going, like they want you to log on every day and see that number going up and go, oh shit, I'm going to put my money in there so I can make even more money. Right? That's the ultimate plan.
Starting point is 01:42:58 But even if you got suspicious and you're like, I want to take my money out. Well, they go, okay, we'll just send us an early withdrawal fee. So they only end up getting a little bit of money out of you, but they still get real money out of you for no money. And even if you end up getting so suspicious that you won't even do that, Well, they got you to download this app on your phone. And so they got your information.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Oh, yeah. Most people use the same logger credentials across apps, so you didn't give them that as well. Right. You know, they got your email address. They can sell that. And they have your security questions, so they know your first dog's name and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:43:33 So it's like, at the very least, they get in the way with your info. Right. Or some of your real money. You know? And a lot of old folks, they hear crypto, and they don't really understand it. So it's easy to convince them that, oh, it's just something I don't understand, but this app makes it easy for me.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Isn't it crazy that the polymarket thing for this special forces soldier, that he's going to jail for this? But Congress is allowed to insider trade. Oh, bro, bro. And that's kind of crazy because you can't be sure that the mission to try to overthrow Maduro is going to be successful. Right? So if they're trying to overthrow Maduro, that's a military. military operation, they're not always successful. So if he's gambling on a military operation that he's about to embark in, he's kind of
Starting point is 01:44:21 betting on his own life. Well, I think what they're getting him for is more that he endangered the mission. Really? Because I seem, because, because, yeah, because you're, because if, if, if we're supposed to keep our military movements a secret and it gets out there that someone, keeps on predicting when we're going to make certain movements, then our enemies will be watching Polly Market for when people bet on. That actually makes sense.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Is that really the case, Jamie? What is he in trouble for? I mean, I'm reading through the justice.gov thing. What Brian was saying started to make sense off of here, but at the bottom, it says the actual charges, and the charges are three counts of violating the Commodity Exchange Act each, which carries a maximum of 10 years, one count of wire fraud, which is a 20-year max, one kind of unlawful monetary transaction, which is a 10-year max.
Starting point is 01:45:18 And what's the other one? Well, that's only two. It says there's three. That's crazy. Because, like, how come no one in Congress ever gets in trouble? They do sometimes. No, I don't know. When they don't vote correctly?
Starting point is 01:45:33 No, like, every year somebody goes down. Yeah, but not insider trading. They get busted for other shit. Yeah, you're right for, like, taking bribes and stuff. Yeah. Has anybody ever been busted, Congress? Congress-wise for insider trading on stocks? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:45:46 If I guess, there was another controversy recently. They're accusing Federman of doing it. But the type of shit the average person goes to jail for? Oh, my God. What? You want to talk about something that'll piss you off about somebody going to jail? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:59 This guy in Florida, what was his name? Yeah, a few people have for sure. Really? Congress people? For insider trading? Yeah, even recently. That's crazy. It says rep from New York.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Chris Collins pled guilty in 2019 to insider trading and lying after tipping this on about a failed drug trial, 26 months in prison, and then T-Mobile stock purchase. Definitely no senators, though. Well, these are people that nobody knows. Look at these people. This ain't Nancy Pelosi.
Starting point is 01:46:25 2020 scandal. So occasionally, no COVID trade. No powerful people are going to prison for that shit. No. Martha Stewart's the most powerful person that ever went to jail. Yeah, but she didn't even go to jail for that. She went to jail for lying. 78 members have been arrested?
Starting point is 01:46:40 And one different con. Not arrested. but all violated the Stock Act. Interesting, which requires reporting financial trades within 45 days. Maybe that's just because they try to hide it. And everybody else is just like, oh, I just made a good bet. They're saying just in this Congress. In April, three candidates were fined by Kalshi for allegedly, whatever, betting on their own races.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Political insider trading by betting on their own races. But wait a minute, you can't bet on your own race? That seems crazy. Like, if you think you're going to win, you don't know if you're going to win. No one knows. But you're probably the first one to know which way it's going to go. I don't know about that. I don't think those polls are ever correct.
Starting point is 01:47:21 That's not true. They must be somewhat correct. In the case, they were suspended from Kalshi, so I don't know. They got in trouble with that. So, Joe, check this shit out. This is going to get under your skin. So this dude, Michael Martin in Florida. He made an addition to his house, a million-dollar addition to his house.
Starting point is 01:47:39 It got approved by the city and everything. And after he put it up, his neighbors complained. They went and dug up some like 100-year-old statute and complained, right? So they take them to court. And his argument is, well, it got approved by the city. Like, that's why I built it. Right. So fuck them.
Starting point is 01:48:04 But he compromised already. He compromised and he put up a thing to block his vision. view so it wouldn't bother them. Okay. And that wasn't good enough of them. So then the judge ended up ordering him to tear it all down. Oh, my God. And he refused.
Starting point is 01:48:22 And now he's still in jail right now. Oh, my God. For contempt of court. Is this a homeowners association thing? No. No, it's just his neighbor. No, because he, everything was approved. It got approved by the HOA, got approved by the city and everything.
Starting point is 01:48:35 And he spent all his money. He spent all his money, built it up, and then his neighbor had a problem with it. Oh, his neighbor's a piece of shit. And now the judge wants him to tear it down. Do you imagine your neighbor wanting you to take down an addition to your house? Like, why do you give a fuck? If I'm going to jail over that, I'm going to whoop your ass. I'm at least being there for something.
Starting point is 01:48:54 That's so crazy that people can take someone to court for doing something to their house. Like, what does it matter to you? Is it affecting your view? Like, what is it? Yeah. I think it's one of those things where it's like, technically, I think the argument you can make is that, I bought this house because the forest was right there and he's chopping down the forest.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Is that what he's doing, though? No, that's not what he's doing, but I don't know what they... And I forget what the statute is that they found. His name was Michael Martin, but they found some old-ass technicality. Right, that the city didn't even know about because they approved it.
Starting point is 01:49:28 You would hate that neighbor forever. If that guy made you take down your addition that you spent 200 grand building up... Yeah, because that's my thing. It's like, how is the judge, how can you tell a man fuck your million dollars? Right, right. That's what crazy to me.
Starting point is 01:49:42 And you got approved by the city. And he can't appeal that? I don't know. He's going to. He's in jail while it's being appealed and that's what his lawyer is like. No, because here's the thing. He can get out of jail anytime he wants. All he has to do is tear down the addition.
Starting point is 01:49:55 He has to tear down the addition. Yeah, but if he's appealing, why would he tear down the addition? And then if he wins the appeal, he builds it back up again and the guy appeals the appeal. It's also saying that demo is going to cost 800 grand. Oh my God Oh my God
Starting point is 01:50:09 This fucking cunt neighbor Yeah you talk about being What is the specifics though Am I wrong? I mean maybe the neighbor's right I'm not going to see how it went down Yeah Because what did the What could the neighbor have any
Starting point is 01:50:22 How could that make sense? Yeah it's starting off said The lawyer for a Tampa couple Who asked a judge to find their neighbor In contempt of court over a disputed guesthouse Says there's more to the story than we first brought you about Of course
Starting point is 01:50:36 There's always more to the story. Is he growing a shroom back then? It's not sharing. My old neighborhood, there was this guy built a house, and it was just kind of flat. It was kind of boring. It was like just not creative. The guy was a builder, and he wasn't much of an architect, and I don't think he hired an architect. He just had his own idea to how to build a house.
Starting point is 01:50:59 But he got permits, and he did it. But I remember my neighbor complaining, and he's like, you believe this guy built his fucking house? I'm like, what is the big deal? And he's like, you don't think that's an eyesore? I go, well, it's boring. It's a boring house. Like, what do you care?
Starting point is 01:51:12 I just didn't understand it, but he wanted to like start complaining and get a bunch of people to file a complaint about this guy's house. Local news site. The location will allow the occupant of the guest house to peer into the backyard and pool area of the Babbitt's home. Oh. Martin subsequently removed any windows facing the Babet's property and installed bamboo along the property line to obstruct the view of the guest house. Yeah, they were mad that you could see into their house. To their yard where their pool is.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Yeah, that's out started. That says that was the initial complaint, but there's 500 filings that they've had over five years over this. Oh, God. 1924 original subdivision said it was public space or supposed to be public space or something like that. Look at 1924. They went and found a 1924 statute.
Starting point is 01:52:00 They're saying that the company he hired that got the approval did that. illegally and that's their claim I guess and it all has to do with yeah that's so Martin signed a contract with the demolition company needs to pay 392, 3752 to dynamite demolition what a great name I want to get a t-shirt dinite demolition to begin tearing down the structures judge Nash rejected them until last week finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody and take him to jail.
Starting point is 01:52:38 No one is above the law, McClearen said. So we just want the court's ruling to be complied with, and that's it. Boy. But somebody being able to see into your pool is wild for you to really go through this much trouble. She said, oh, so this general contractor, Julie McGill is one of the several outside contractors and developers. I asked to evaluate the case. She says she can't remember a time when a judge told the city that it didn't follow its own code on neighborhood conformity. Wow.
Starting point is 01:53:07 But see, Mr. Martin, Mr. Martin, you fucking up the game. You know what you got to do, man? You know what you got to do, Mr. Martin? Just comply, okay? Because you're not going to win like this. Do what they say. Pay the money, tear it down. I'm guessing you got the money. If you build on a million-dollar guesthouse with a pickleball court and a pool
Starting point is 01:53:23 just for your guess, you got the bread. Pay that bread, and then you take the money you save from not being caught up in all of these lawsuits. Okay, and you spend it on revenge. You have the most cold-blooded fucking creative people you can think of. And you make this person's life miserable in all the legal ways possible.
Starting point is 01:53:44 In all the ways where he knows it's you and he can't do shit about it. You hire a bunch of college students. You get him a prize for whoever finds any statute that can fuck this man's life up. That's what you do. Don't sit in jail. You can't not take any revenge that cost you something. It's got to be pure delight. You know, it's got to be certain.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Serve cold. That's what that's saying is. The convenience is best served cold? It's like you have to take care with the dish. You can't just react. It would be weird though. If you always had a backyard where your pool didn't face anybody and then also a dude put a house right behind your pool. Put up a gazebo motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:54:20 That's not exactly what it was. It says there was already, they put together some lots to make one bigger lot and there was already something on that. And so when he bought it, they're like, we'll see a problem with fixing that, changing how it looked. And now they That might be with you.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Here's also the thing, no, Joe. He offered to block, like put up a wall of block the for many of the years. They have no windows. Yeah. Put up bamboo. And I feel like if it's a good neighbor, that's reasonable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:49 That's a reasonable compromise. Go, oh, I didn't even think about the, I can see into your house. We'll just knock the windows out. That feels like, instead of being like, no, I want you to waste a million dollars. Right. Fuck. To me, that's when you became the bad guy. When he offered a reasonable compromise and you said, fuck no.
Starting point is 01:55:05 then fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah, fuck you. I'm telling you right now, they're lucky it's not me with a million dollars. Because I'm Batman now. I'm Batman and you're the Joker.
Starting point is 01:55:13 And I'm going to spend my whole, I'm going to live my life as no those. That's true. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm going to tear it down. I'm going to sell the house. I'm going to use all the money
Starting point is 01:55:22 from selling this house. I'm using all that money to wake your life hard. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to pay people with a break in your house. That's illegal. Don't do that. That's illegal.
Starting point is 01:55:33 You don't want to pay it. Don't do illegal things. Let a crackhead do it. But that's illegal still. Okay. You know what? Crack will write you out too. Then you'll be in jail.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Cut your internet line. Wait until you called a repair shop. That's illegal too. Have them throw dead mice in the back of your vents. You can't have it to be illegal. It's got to be legal. You're right. It must be legal.
Starting point is 01:55:49 But I just can't think of anything legal right now. Well, you can sue people for all kinds of stupid shit and just make them go through legal problems. Don't sue. Yeah, just have people outside with a tape measure. If they, if they, a centimeter from the curb, calling the cops. Straight neighbor. The labor wars are real, man. People kill each other over neighbor wars.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Oh, yeah. The Hatfields and the McCoys. Ancient. Yeah. I think that was over some other shit. There's nothing worse than living besides somebody like this. No. It's completely unreasonable, completely unable to compromise.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Nice neighbors are beautiful. Oh, man. You have good neighbors? It's great. I have nice neighbors. It's nice. And I have nice neighbors in California, too. Because here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:56:32 It doesn't take much to be a good neighbor. You have to be thoughtful. and in the times that you're not thoughtful, when it's brought to your attention, you have to have the appropriate amount of shame. Well, here it goes. Stolen hog. It was over a stolen hog?
Starting point is 01:56:48 Illicit romance and longstanding judges. Two neighboring families in the backwoods of Appalachia. So here's the thing about that, though. I think this is from, is this from Malcolm Gladwell's book? I forget whose book it's on from. But there was a book where they accept. Explained that what had happened, I believe it's Malcolm Gladwell, was it explaining that the reason why the people in Appalachia are so violent is because they come from hurting populations in Europe.
Starting point is 01:57:16 And so herders in Europe are very different than farmers. Because if herders, someone can come along and steal all your sheep and you're fucked, you can't really steal all someone's corn. It just takes forever. Right. You got to chop it down. You know what I mean? So these people were used to defending their animals with violence because people would come in and try to steal them. Yes, Malcolm Gladwell, yeah, outliers, that's the book.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Chapter 6, Hatfield-McCoyd Feud has analyzed as a prime example of a culture of honor, where similar to the findings in this Reddit thread, ancestral herding roots forced rapid, brutal retaliation for insults to maintain reputation. This cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict. So culture of honor, Gladwell argues that families descending from Scottish and Irish herders brought a culture of honor to the Appalachian Mountains. In these regions, law enforcement is weak and survival depends on establishing a reputation for strength and prompt, often violent retaliation against slights. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Who's the name of the book, though? Outliers. Fucking great book. It's a really good book. Yeah, I haven't read it, though. It's really good. It talks about why people are successful. One of the more interesting things is about the Beatles.
Starting point is 01:58:32 And the Beatles talks about how they got this gig in Hamburg, Germany, where they were performing every fucking day. Every day. They were doing multiple sets every day. And they did it for like a few years. And then they went back to Liverpool and everybody was like, what the fuck happened with you guys? Like, how did you get so good? And they got so good because they were just performing all the time. I think it was at a strip club.
Starting point is 01:58:57 I think it was something crazy like that. Like they were performing music at a strip club, like something weird. And because of that, they were just getting in reps, like crazy reps. And I think that's the key to, like, almost anything, almost anything. And this is the argument in outliers. It's like, you know, the 10,000 hours of mastery, like that argument. Yeah, but the 10,000 hours is, it's not exactly what he said, right? No, it's a rough.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Because there's obviously people that are savants. Well, I know, I think he modified it because he's, because he's, you know, he modified it because He talked about, it's not about the amount of time as much as it's about the kind, the quality of practice. Right. So like intentional directed practice. Which would be like performing on stage. Exactly. For all those.
Starting point is 01:59:48 Where is, what were they doing in Hamburg, Germany, Jamie? Were they, were they at, was it a strip club? Something like that. It said they played in clubs and strip bars. Yeah. So there's a lot of places, I guess. So they were just going off. They were just, like, doing as many sets as they can.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Which is the same with comedy. Everybody that we know that really progressed rapidly, they did as many sets as possible. They're hopping all over the place. Like guys in our club, like Ari Maddie, for instance, that fucking dude, he'll go up at the sunset. He'll go over here, go there, he'll go there. It doesn't show with the mothership.
Starting point is 02:00:23 He's just in it. You know, he's in it. You know? All day. And when you're doing that, you just get better quicker. Just get better and better. And those dudes that we know that do a set of week, you know, come in, drop in, do 15 minutes, that's it. You don't see them again for another week.
Starting point is 02:00:38 They kind of like get stale, stay flat. They get stagnant. They get stagnant. Yeah. Whereas the Beatles just got after it and then all of a sudden, love, love may do. They just got smooth, you know, which makes sense. That's the case with everything, though. With like everything you do, like, you don't want a surgeon that does brain surgery once a year.
Starting point is 02:00:59 You know, you want a guy who's like in it. Yeah. He's in it all day. He's fucking studying journals and practicing with robots. Yeah, I'm trying to be your third brain that day. That's right. Yeah. You don't want to be the fifth brain, though.
Starting point is 02:01:11 It gets tired. No. You know, the funny is I just saw something about, um, they did a, he did a study at a courthouse where, and they found that the, that judge, whenever the judges had, like, how harsh of a sentence you received. was directly related to how long it had it been since the judge ate something. Oh yeah, I've seen that before. Yeah, I've seen that. That's crazy as hell.
Starting point is 02:01:42 That's crazy. It's enough, it's statistically significant. Yeah, yeah, which makes sense. Cranky. Or if the judge's getting no pussy, maybe he's going through a divorce, you know, maybe his wife fucked her trainer. God damn it, give me the, fuck you.
Starting point is 02:01:57 Give me the hot judge right after breakfast. What if you come in and you're a person? personal trainer too and you're dealing with some shit. And Joe's like, my wife just fucking darned a piece of shit. Some people get real petty like that. They don't give a fuck about like doing the right thing. Oh, hell not. Well, they just want to feel power.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Fuck people over. Fuck you. Fuck all trainers. Well, you know, another thing I just found out about is, um, I think that the country's Anguela, right? Jamie. They, they, um,
Starting point is 02:02:36 so you know how, you know how like in America, the websites are all dot com. Yeah. In Russia, it's like dotRU. Right. In Inuela, it's dot AI.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Oh. Which didn't use to mean shit, but now. Now it's worth some money. Now they're making so much money selling domains that it's like half of their money. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:02:58 It's completely changed the economy Oh, that's crazy because it seems like you're legit if you have like perplexity. Right. So anybody, anything.com, they got to pay these people. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, there's so many domains now. Yeah, just from something we didn't use the thing meant anything.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Because it used to be like you only had dot com and dot net. Oh, yeah. You know? Like, you never know what this. Like, bro, somebody just held up a, somebody, because I'm on one of the, one of the subredits I'd be on is called, why would you touch that or what is this? And usually the same post are on both because people are like, what is this thing?
Starting point is 02:03:37 And then also, why are you touching it? So I just saw one recently, but somebody held up a thing and they were like, what is this, what does this O-F mean? And it was like, but it was from, so Tyler the Creator? Yes. So when he first came out, his group was called our future. So this was way before OnlyFans.
Starting point is 02:04:02 Okay. And so if you saw O.F. You know, before seven years ago, it meant, that's what it meant. And so it was one of their, like, stickers or promo things or something like that. But this was a young kid, he found it in an attic or something.
Starting point is 02:04:13 He didn't know what the fucking man. He was like, why is it? Because he knew how old it was. So he was like, it can't be Onlyfans. What is this? Right. Yeah. And it's like, changes all the time.
Starting point is 02:04:22 These motherfuckers, they got this. Dot, AI. They never thought, nobody thought they were making any fucking money off. Right. Well, there was other ones like that, too, that are kind of interesting. Soccer fans, your chance to witness history is here. You can win tickets to the FIFA World Cup 2026 final thanks to Visa. All it takes is a BMO Visa credit card to enter.
Starting point is 02:04:47 Sign up and enter at bemo.com slash contest. Contest rules apply. There's a bunch of different ones. I'm trying to remember some of them, but some of them are like dot biz. Where'd that come from? I don't know. Who, what is that? Is that a...
Starting point is 02:05:02 I don't know, but they have that. They have dot biz for some. I remember back when that used to mean something. Like, we used to have like, do dot org. Mm-hmm. I think dot edu is still a thing. Remember when people sell websites for a lot of money so people would like buy a bunch of domains and hold on to them like business. I think business.
Starting point is 02:05:19 I think business.com sold for a ton of money. Yeah. But now, I think it's hard to do that now. Yeah, what kind of business do you have that people are just looking up business. dot com. Why is that even worth anything? You know what I mean? That's like eating.com is worth money. I don't know if you remember back when white house. dot com was a porn site.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Was it? The actual site was, it's always been whitehouse.gov. But that was back when people didn't know. So when everyone was looking for the white house, they go whitehouse.com, they go to this porn site. Do you know what red band did? No. Do you know the Pepsi spice thing?
Starting point is 02:05:50 No. What is Pepsi spice? What a red band's greatest trolls was. he bought Pepsispice.com. So Pepsi spice was a type of Pepsi Pepsi that came out. And so Red Band bought PepsiSpice.com and then he started documenting
Starting point is 02:06:08 how he was drinking Pepsi spice and he was having bloody diarrhea. That's all he was drinking. He was dying. He was getting cancer. It's like the fucking craziest thing. I mean, 14 years ago. So play the goal full screen.
Starting point is 02:06:23 169. So he's losing weight? Hi, this is Brian. from Pepsispice.com. A lot of people wouldn't believe me, so that's why I'm making this video. My pee has actually turned, not yellow, not white,
Starting point is 02:06:39 but it's very red. And I'm not making this shit up. That's why I'm filming using this Canon camera, that S, 4 megapixel camera. That's how old this is. That's record this. Head, toilet. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:00 I'm going to peeve, I'm just going to... See, he's like, pretend that his peas, bloody. Oh, this guy. He's so silly. He just kept doing it like he got worse and worse and worse,
Starting point is 02:07:16 and eventually Pepsi spice bought it from him. The hardest part to believe on that video was the 170 pounds. Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Brian at one point in time got real heavy,
Starting point is 02:07:28 and then went on a crazy fitness kick. He got a, like, a stair climber in his house, and he's fucking riding that bitch every day and he lost a ton of weight. And he had a photo of him like with his old jeans. This is a Pepsi spice project. Pepsi is spice project. He's so silly.
Starting point is 02:07:49 But this one, man, he committed a lot of fucking time to this. It was very funny. Like I remember reading it and like dying laughing. I'm like, you're so ridiculous. Yeah. Well, you know, if Red band decides fuck you, he can really elevate to like a 50 cent level of
Starting point is 02:08:06 of pettiness Oh yeah Yeah but this wasn't even fuck you This is just him having fun Did they come after him? I think eventually they did But the thing was like they were too stupid To buy PepsiSpice.com
Starting point is 02:08:17 When they had Pepsi spice Like you gotta buy that Like who the fuck You should fire somebody Somebody in your organization is slipping Because he didn't know That Pepsi spice was gonna be a thing Until after you released it
Starting point is 02:08:30 So the fact that you knew you were going to release Pepsi spice and you didn't buy up Pepsispice.com is kind of crazy. That is kind of crazy. Kind of ridiculous. That's just shitty planning. That's whoever works for. They deserve whatever he did.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Yeah, I try to, when I try to get, because all my social media stuff is BS, and I try to get BS.com or BScom or something like that. And then somebody already owns it. It was like a Canadian improv group or something. Oh, interesting. And I was like, well, I'll buy it from you. And the price they said was so crazy that I was like, what?
Starting point is 02:09:09 How much? I want to say they asked for like $10,000 or something. And this was back when I, that was, like, I wouldn't pay that now. But back then I didn't even have it. Right. But I was like, what? $10,000 is crazy for a website. Y'all?
Starting point is 02:09:24 Because it wasn't like they were doing tons of business through this website. Were they using it at all? How much would you have paid for it? Back then? Yeah. How would have a game $1,000? A thousand. If they said two, no way?
Starting point is 02:09:37 Maybe. Maybe $1,500 with the best and final. I think today, though, all anybody does is do a search of your name, and then they find your website. If Sony wants to find your website, they just search, and it's right there. Oh, yeah. But part of me always wants everything to be the same. And it ended up not being that way anyway because my TikTok is a different thing than everything else. Everything is BS comedian except that.
Starting point is 02:10:00 It's interesting. you have TikTok, don't you worry about the terms of service, like all the access they have to your phone and access to computers are on your network and all that shit? The Chinese? Mm-hmm. I mean... Well, now it's not the Chinese anymore now.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You know, for me, I've never... I've never... Because once Edward Snowden told us what was up, I'm like, they all... Who gives a fuck? I care who's spying? I'm getting spied on no matter what I'm doing.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Yeah. Yeah, what the Chinese is going to do to me? They're going to be like, oh, he's... Basically, they have... That you've ever done and they only use it if they catch you. So if they're looking for something, like say if you run for Congress and you do some insider trading, you do something shitty and they come after you, then they go, oh, Brian, it's interesting because we have a voicemail that you left on someone's when you were talking about it. They got that shit, though. They already got it.
Starting point is 02:10:51 They always have stuff. Somebody got arrested today from Fauci's administration. They arrested the first guy. who was involved in the cover-up of the lab leak theory. And he was using a Gmail account to avoid Freedom of Information Act requests. So he was using Gmail instead of, this is allegedly, I don't know what the reality of all this is, obviously. I just read about it today. Ex-Fouchy top advisor indicted over alleged COVID cover-up, hidden emails.
Starting point is 02:11:27 David Morens allegedly received gifts, including, wine and high-end meals from a collaborator, prosecutors say. Uh-oh. See, this is why I don't believe in incognito mode. Yeah, it's all bullshit. I'm like, yo, jerk off on your main and delete that shit out your history.
Starting point is 02:11:44 Because all incognito mode is, it's just you going, hey, Google, this is the stuff I don't want nobody to know about. Exactly. And then they put it in a file. He's served for years as a top advisor with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, indicted
Starting point is 02:11:59 and is accused your phone's talking to you dog Google is it said Google's like you can trust me yeah Google's like hey I know incognito mood is legit ignognito mode so
Starting point is 02:12:17 he was using his personal email account to evade federal transparency laws and shield key discussions from Freedom of Information Act requests according to the DOJ indictment unsealed. It was also apparently bragging about it, allegedly, alleged that Marens conspired with others during the pandemic to hide communications related to a controversial coronavirus research grant that involved collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology and China.
Starting point is 02:12:47 The grant was later terminated amid scrutiny or whether COVID-19 may have originated from a lab leak. Isn't it amazing that? How did they catch him? Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right? This is the thing because they wanted to get Fauci. That's why the Biden administration gave him a pardon from 2014 on, which is really kind of wild. Federal prosecutors also claim that Marines received gifts from a collaborator, including wine and offers of high-end meals and later took steps to justify these perks by contributing to a scientific publication supporting the theory that COVID-19, emerged naturally rather than from the Wuhan lab. So they bribed him to get him to do this, allegedly. He's one of, I think, a bunch of people that are going to wind up going down.
Starting point is 02:13:38 There's too many people that are pissed off. There's too many people. I mean, too much money got lost. Too many people wound up dying. Wait, me, why you think anybody's going to go to prison now? They never go to prison. Oh, you're not, no. This is a new thing.
Starting point is 02:13:52 I mean, this kind of thing is a new thing. and there's enough people that want heads to roll. This is a weird thing. I mean, this is a weird thing where they shut the whole country down. If you find out that these people actually paid to have this virus engineered and they were lying about it and hiding it and covering it up.
Starting point is 02:14:07 Oh, I see, that's what I took from that. The virus came from the Wuhan lab, okay? These people were hiding the fact that they were funding the Wuhan lab. They were funding the creation of this virus. He was part of a group that was funding him. And he was also, allegedly, being bribed with things to promote the idea that it came from naturally, from natural spillover, versus from a lab leak.
Starting point is 02:14:33 Allegedent. Who's alleging? Whoever the prosecutors are. Whoever the, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what they know and what they don't know. But I do know that obviously there was a concerted effort to make it seem like this came naturally and not from the Wuhan lab. There was a giant effort, which is why on YouTube, if you had posted during like 2020 about,
Starting point is 02:14:54 a lab leak if you said I think it came from a lab they would literally pull you off of YouTube They would kick you off a Twitter back then before Elon bought Twitter. They would kick you off Twitter if you were going on and on about it This is a lab leak. I mean we living in in a times man hypothetical could fuck your world up You can't even can't even chew on it You can't even like have a play devil's advocate well you can now you can now because of Twitter because Elon bought it But before then when the government was essentially in control mean the government was conspired to control and to limit about Elon? Yeah, people do all day.
Starting point is 02:15:30 They're all day. Yeah, all over Twitter. In his defense, I mean, I'm sure he blocks them. But, I mean, he can block somebody. But people talk mad shit about him. That motherfucker will be on Twitter way too much for how rich he is. Not only that, how busy he is. I don't understand it.
Starting point is 02:15:46 A boy busy tweeting. What's he doing? But he's busy making rockets and shit. I mean, I don't understand it. I don't know how he has the time. I can't do it. Well, he ain't making the rockets. He got, like, slaves or whatever.
Starting point is 02:15:57 I don't know. I'm sure he got, like, geniuses chained. He does, but he's in charge of a lot of it, man. I went to the rocket factory during the launch. Jamie went, too. We all went and watched SpaceX launch. We went down to the cult. What's the Gulf, right?
Starting point is 02:16:12 Oh, yeah, they're the main guy. Boy, you know, they just launched, or they're going to launch on SpaceX. They're going to launch the new telescope. Yes. The, what was it? The Nancy Grace Roman? Roman, the Roman telephones. Oh, this motherfucker is.
Starting point is 02:16:28 These new telescopes are kind of crazy because the more they find out, the more they find out that like, oh, we didn't know that. What's crazy about this one is how fast they built it. And this is the craziest part. It's under budget. So they built it faster than they said for less
Starting point is 02:16:43 than what they said. And what is the power of this one as opposed to like the James Webb? Apparently, so I was listening to this shit. I was fascinated earlier, but they're saying, so they weren't comparing it to the James Webb, they're comparing it to the Hubble. Because the James Webb is more infrared.
Starting point is 02:17:04 This is more like the Hubble, but it takes a picture at the same resolution as the Hubble, but way, way bigger. So they were saying that there is not a screen that exists that you could display the picture on. Yeah, it's a wide field instrument, Whereas the James telescope is near infrared. Interesting. So what is this going to be able to detect that the James Webb can't?
Starting point is 02:17:31 Exoplanets is one of the big ones. Like way, way, way, way more than we can right now. Imagine if they find exoplanets and you can see lights on them. Well, I don't know if that's possible. One day. Just imagine. Oh, yeah, I think about it all the time. Fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:17:52 That would be. So yeah, so see how huge. Holy shit. Yeah, compares more of the Hubble, I think, than the James Webb. In the type of telescope it is. Yeah, and just the amount of information that it can take in. They're finding shit from the James Webb that's freaking them out. They're finding things that make them question the age of the universe itself.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Oh, yeah. And this thing is going to do, like we, because I don't know if you remember this, but the first time I was on this pod, I told you about the James Webb. wait like a year and a half before it came out. What were you telling me about? I was just telling you that it existed, that it was going to change everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:27 And it has. And this one is going to do the same thing. The formation of galaxies is freaking them out. They find these galaxies that are formed way too quickly, so they're confused. And now they're starting to, like, are we wrong about how long it takes to form a galaxy or are we wrong about the age of the universe?
Starting point is 02:18:45 Yeah, I mean, we're wrong about everything. I mean, we're wrong about a lot of things. But you know the thing about scientists love being wrong? Yeah, they do. Well, especially these kind of scientists. Yeah, they love new discoveries. Like, oh, more questions. They're not very dramatic.
Starting point is 02:18:58 Also, it's very difficult to argue when you get the data back from these things. I mean, it is what it is. We were talking about this recently that they found a black hole that's bigger than our galaxy. Oh, well, yeah. What? Well, I think you were sending me that. I think you sent me that. Something.
Starting point is 02:19:16 Or it may not be bigger than our galaxy, or, it's commensurate with our galaxy. It's like, there's one that they found that was bigger than our entire solar system. It was ton something. 10618. It's bigger than the solar system.
Starting point is 02:19:30 But that's one. But there was the alpha, what was the other one that we looked at the other day? And then we brought it up the other day. There's one that's even larger than that. Like, they keep finding these ones
Starting point is 02:19:41 that are just impossibly big. Yeah. Because it would have to have been primordial, right? It would have to have formed. But this was the question. They said that it was so, big it didn't make sense that it had enough time to suck up enough stars to get that big.
Starting point is 02:19:56 That was the problem. Right. They were like, there's not enough time from the birth of the universe for this thing to exist and be this big. Yeah, because it would have had to have started at a time where the matter wasn't close enough together to even form things. Oh, it's so fucked up. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 02:20:11 Yeah. Just the idea of a black hole bigger than all the way out to Pluto. A black hole. Here's a real sad thing. there's a lot of things that are just not knowable to us. Like we just will never know. Right. And that's, we just got to accept that.
Starting point is 02:20:27 Like every time you hear them talk about how we're expanding, the universe is expanding so rapidly, then eventually it's going to be, because it's speeding up. So eventually it's going to be expanding close to the speed of light. Right. And so it's like at some point, if there's still people on Earth, then at some point there's not going to be any stars.
Starting point is 02:20:50 We're going to be expanding so rapidly that when you look up at the sky, you're not going to see anything. Like they're going to think, they're going to think that everything outside our galaxy doesn't exist. I mean, they're going to see stars, but they're not going to see, they're not going to know that there's other galaxies. Because the light won't be reaching us. Wow.
Starting point is 02:21:09 So it's like, so imagine the stuff that we can't know now, that we already be on what we couldn't even know. I think it's called Phoenix. I think that was the... They were both part of the same thing. It's the same thing? I'm looking at the other. Everything about ton 6-118 says it's the biggest thing they've ever found.
Starting point is 02:21:27 And how big is it exactly? 88. It's... Oh, what did you decide? I just lost the mass is the size of roughly 66 billion suns, I think, is what that means. I don't fucking know what that means, man. I don't understand. 66 billion solar masses.
Starting point is 02:21:48 I'm assuming that's a... That's so crazy. You can't even really imagine that. Do you know what they said, that there are more planets in the universe than there are seconds since the Big Bang? Yeah, yeah, that's... There you go, yeah. Phoenix is surrounding Ton 618. Oh, that's what it is.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Okay, so Phoenix, as a quasar, ton 618 is believed to be the active galactic nucleus at the center of a galaxy. the engine of which is a super massive black hole feeding on intensely hot gas and matter in an accretion disk? What does that mean? That's the disc around the black hole that, like when it eats something. That's where the light is coming from. When did they discover this? Nature of this object was first known 57. 13 years later, 1970, you discovered.
Starting point is 02:22:55 read admissions from that. Yeah. You want to get it really get freaked out? Jimmy, look up the great attractor. What is that? So this scary space is so there is something on the other side of us that we can't see and everything is moving in that direction, including us, and we don't know what's pulling in. What?
Starting point is 02:23:20 Hidden galaxies discovered in the zone of avoidance. What does that mean? the great attractor defeat dark energy what now look up a what is it the great attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point of the lanakia supercluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy as well as about a hundred thousand and other galaxies. The observed attraction suggests a localized concentration of mass having the order of 10 to the 16 solar masses.
Starting point is 02:23:57 However, it's obscured by the Milky Way's galactic plane lying above the zone of avoidance so that invisible light wavelengths, the great attractor is difficult to observe directly. Bro. There's no way you can know everything. There's too much information. So we know everything's being sucked towards it.
Starting point is 02:24:16 What is that? don't know, and it's sucking all these galaxies, all these super galaxies, everything's moving towards it, and we can't tell what it is. Imagine, it's your job to know what's going on in the universe. Hey, Brian, write me a paper on what's going on in the universe. Like, everything? Everything? It would never end.
Starting point is 02:24:36 With every new satellite that gets launched that can see into the space, every new telescope that gets utilized, like, we're fucked. Here's the other thing, though. And I could be wrong about this. I mean, I'm wrong about a lot of shit. But I think that it's actually physically impossible for you to know even a fraction of the things. Because any device that could store that amount of information would collapse into a black hole before you could get anywhere near storing enough. So your brain couldn't even hold even a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of the information.
Starting point is 02:25:13 That makes sense. We have pea brains. There's no way we can have that information. The South Pole, what is this? Flat Earthers are going to love this. Okay. South Pole wall or the South Pole wall is a massive cosmic structure formed by a giant wall of galaxies, a galaxy filament, that extends across at least 1.37 billion light years of space. The nearest light and consequently part of which is aged at about a half a billion light years.
Starting point is 02:25:44 The structure in its astronomical angle is dense in five known places, including one very near the celestial South Pole, and is, according to the international team of astronomers that discover the South Pole wall, the largest contiguous feature in the local volume and comparable to the Sloan Great Wall at half the distance. Okay, you just like... I just were blocked them by walls as all I was getting that. Uh-huh. Maybe that's why they're confused. Maybe that's what they think the Antarctic wall is. Maybe the rest of the galaxy knows that we're a problem and they got us locked in. You know, perhaps we got, we gotten out before and fucked the galaxy up.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Maybe. Back in the Egyptian days, maybe that's what they were doing. Something. You see that shit they, you've seen that shit they found underneath the pyramids, right? No. You haven't seen that? I don't think so. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:26:33 Oh, you don't know? Oh, you don't know. Kirk? Oh, you don't know. He should sell T-shirts. You ever heard? Oh, you don't know. They've found these structures.
Starting point is 02:26:47 They use, what is it called? Radio tomography, satellite radio tomography. And it's this ground-penetrating shit that they've found these structures underneath the pyramids that go like over a kilometer deep into the earth. Like pillars, giant columns that are surrounded by coils that go down into the ground. And they've used this technology successfully. to detect things that they know exists, like certain voids that are in pyramids and certain chambers and certain temples
Starting point is 02:27:19 that they know exist underground. And they've accurately described these things, including they use this radio tomography on... There's a mountain in Italy that has a particle collider at the bottom of the mountain, over a kilometer into the mountain. They built this particle collider. And this thing, this information, this technology,
Starting point is 02:27:39 shows an accurate image of what this particle collider looks like. The exact dimensions shows it exact. And so they're using this underneath the pyramid. And this guy, Felipe Biondi, this Italian scientist that I had on the podcast, explained that they've used this underneath the pyramids, and there's these undeniable structures that exist that go down into the ground, like very deep into the ground. So the pyramids are just the top of this immense structure.
Starting point is 02:28:08 When you said Italian scientists, I just keep thinking about him, like, taking a nap in the middle of the time. They're eating pasta, drinking wine, eventually we're figuring it out. So you're saying that there's, that there are machines down there or something? They don't know what it is. So they haven't really dug into the ground and investigated it fully yet. But they know that these sensors, these, this technology is detecting these structures. Jamie, show me what it looks like. So show them the 3D model.
Starting point is 02:28:34 They made a 3D model of it. I'm shocked that we can't. and get in there and just go. That's what they think it looks like. Okay. What? Imagine. If that's accurate, if there really are columns underneath the pyramid.
Starting point is 02:28:49 I mean, that just seems so impossible. It seems impossible. And there's heat? No, I don't think it's heat. I don't think that's what it. There's a water table underneath there, too. And they think it has something to do with the use of the pyramid in the first place, that it wasn't simply just a structure, that it had some sort of a use, and that these columns
Starting point is 02:29:08 were doing something. and then it was probably some sort of a technology. Look how nuts that is. Megastructures underneath the pyramids. Could you go back to what that one said with the, yeah, right there? Look at that. Alleged megastructures under Egypt's pyramids, sparking fascination and fierce skepticism worldwide.
Starting point is 02:29:29 Will you lose something? No, I'll take it by. So if it's true, that's nuts. Yeah, I mean, that sounds absolutely fucking crazy to me. that I'm just thinking about the work that it would take to even do that. Right. And what kind of a society did that? And for what purpose?
Starting point is 02:29:45 And it's at least 4,500 years old, at least, at least. Yeah. And so apparently those ancient pyramids were before we thought they, like I thought like the modern Egyptians built those pyramids. No. They were, the pyramids were ancient to them. Well, that seems to be the case with a lot. That's the, the labyrinth.
Starting point is 02:30:07 The labyrinth. underneath it's outside of the pyramids. This is another insane structure that they found that Herodotus documented way back in, you know, thousands of years ago. But this is all Ben Van Kirkwick from his uncharted X YouTube channel sort of described all this and explained it. And they've used scans, ground penetrating radar to show that there's this immense structure that Herodotus described as being greater than Giza itself that's underneath
Starting point is 02:30:35 the ground. And inside the labyrinth, there's a 40 meter long metallic object that's shaped like a tick-tack. So whatever the fuck that is, who knows? But I think there's a lot of shit from that part of the world that's going to show us that civilization at one point in time had reached a very high level. Like probably even higher than we are today. And then it was wiped out. And then we're the rebuild. Well, they didn't cure syphilis.
Starting point is 02:31:06 That's a new syphilis? I heard it from Michigan. or some shit, right? From, isn't it? From Washington. Probably from Michigan. No,
Starting point is 02:31:16 no, it was in Washington. Washington? Yeah, the dude, the dude. A new kind of syphilis? Well, it's not a, the dude had two, he had two syphiluses. Two different?
Starting point is 02:31:26 He had two ones. What a dirty pig he must have been. And they, like the same way that COVID was going through like genetic recombination. So like, they were exchanging traits inside his body.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Oh boy. And creating a super syphilis. And then what happened is a bunch of old ladies kept going to the ER, and they all kept describing the same man, and they tried it. He spread it. He was a super spreader. He was spreading it, yeah. And he went to the ER because apparently, like, this, whatever strain he has,
Starting point is 02:31:57 it just causes you to go blind super quickly and all these things. And there's debate about whether he knew he was purposely spreading it and didn't give a fuck, because they told him, yeah, you got to come back. He just kept fucking and didn't go back And then he went He didn't go back until he had another emergency And he went to a different emergency room How many times in human history
Starting point is 02:32:20 Has that been the cause of a plague? Because somebody wouldn't stop fucking It wouldn't stop fucking And just won't tell anybody I mean how are you gonna be mad at You can't be mad at It's five cases of rare ocular syphilis Which can cause vision impairment
Starting point is 02:32:33 Or blindness Identified in southwest Michigan Michigan Between March and July 2022, all linked to a single heterosexual male partner. Wow. All five women, age 40 to 60, he wasn't picky, reported having
Starting point is 02:32:49 sexual contact with the same man. This guy was a freak. Yeah, bro, he was out here, fucking. Fucking people blind. Because his was crazy. Imagine leaving the emergency room. Because the first time he was in an emergency room, they thought he had herpes. Wow. And they gave him something for that, and he left. But imagine
Starting point is 02:33:06 coming from the emergency room from an STD scare and going right back to fucking. And going blind. All patients were hospitalized and successfully treated with intravenous penicillin. No further cases were linked to this man after this treatment.
Starting point is 02:33:19 Woo. All right, Brian. Let's wrap this up with super syphilis. Mm-hmm. Anything going on? When is you're going to put your special up? I'm going to do that later, yeah. When are you going to put that out?
Starting point is 02:33:30 I think it's going to be a summertime, July. Okay. I'm going to put my special up on YouTube. Come back in July? Yeah, we'll do that. I'll see you tonight. All right, yeah. Brian Simpsoncom.
Starting point is 02:33:39 Brian Simpsoncomedy.com. Goodbye.

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