The Joe Rogan Experience - #254 - Everlast

Episode Date: August 16, 2012

Joe sits down with Everlast.

For ourselves, and for others, for the Feminist Radical Associations of America, Esquire. Yeah, we were talking about feminism and feminists that are angry. It's such a cliche, you know? The angry feminist cliche is a funny one, you know? It's like every man shakes his head and goes, oh, Jesus, not one of those. You know, it's a strange designation. It's going to be rough on Twitter for you, dog. No.

They're like Bieber fans, man. Yeah, but they need to relax. We need to be humans. You know, I think people completely misunderstood. We had a podcast the other day, and I got a little shouty. It's a very important issue for me about the idea of censorship. Yeah, I'm familiar. You know the whole story?

I know what happened. You know the Tosh story. So for people who didn't know the Tosh story, Tosh, he said something to a woman in the crowd. He was just responding to like he he said something to a woman in the crowd you know was just responding to like he's fucking around with the crowd said something like wouldn't it be funny if she got raped by five people what it was someone said you should joke about rape he goes on a rant about how rape well yeah what's funny about rape in like all the things that

aren't funny about rape and she goes actually rape is never funny so he goes wouldn't it be funny if five guys raped her it's funny i'm sorry it's unfortunate and it's you look that's not the best kind of comedy you know the best kind of comedy is there's no victims everybody gets out clean i want to do all rape jokes one set 15 minutes of rape jokes well this look rape is not funny dude it's it's just occasionally it's the right thing to say it's if it's like you have to look at comedy as an equation what's what's the 10 move there i'll tell you what the 10 move is the 10 move is wouldn't it be funny if somebody raped her that's the it's the the ko punch i'm a musician and i feel like you got to own your stage a comedian has to do it in a whole different way like literally

a comedian if they if you're sensed weak i mean it's coming at you from all it so if you don't make that joke if you don't show you okay here it is yeah here's why i really don't want to do it right but fine here it is you know the question of whether he had the right to or not is the stupid question of course he did it's in that it's in the environment of stand-up comedy. And somehow or another, everybody has gotten so goddamn oversensitive. Wasn't half of the jokes in Borat rape jokes? Yeah, I'm sure, right? As long as it's dudes getting raped, nobody cares. Dudes can get raped all day.

Yeah, you could say, I'm going to rape you to any guy, right? Yeah, it's pretty much nothing. I mean, it sucks if it happens, but... You gave me permission. But it is not the same, and we don't approach it the same so we don't understand it the same so i think what they're they're asking for if i understand their the other side statement is that they they they want a higher degree of sensitivity from people and i say that they're not related because it's not about being sensitive it's about someone saying something absolutely preposterous for humor

it's not about being sensitive in that in about someone saying something absolutely preposterous for humor. It's not about being sensitive. In that environment, in the environment of stand-up comedy, that's an art form. The only way to do it correctly is you've got to go balls out. And what he did is he went balls out. He said, wouldn't it be funny if... You know why? Isn't that kind of like the whole point of that whole aristocrat's

joke? It's like, who can be the craziest, stupidest, most outrageous like ridiculous dumb thing who can go there that joke's a style of comedy i mean the the idea of that joke did that that really complete raunchy like we had dice clay on the podcast yesterday that that over the top that's like a legitimate art form and for what if just because you don't like it doesn't mean you should get so fucking shitty about other people practicing that art form and in when you step in and start saying things like a guy shouldn't have said this

certain thing to one certain person in the heat of a moment i think that's craziness you know i think that's that's just straight fucking nonsense so all these people are getting upset at me and they're it's they get the wrong impression. I'm for everybody being equal. I'm a humanist. I don't like women more than I like men and I don't like men more than I like women. I like nice people. I like women better than I like men just for the record. Do you?

Yeah. There's a lot of them that are really pretty. Look, what I'm trying to say is we should be humanists. This idea of masculinists, that's fucking nonsense. Can you imagine if I started putting on my Twitter profile that I was a radical masculinist? Bitches would start attacking me. They would think it would be fine to start attacking me. They would just go, what, do you have a small penis?

I'm sorry about your penis not working. Whatever it is, find fucking something. Your insecurities, your fucking problems with your father, I'm not here to deal with you. They would find some reason to be mad at you joe if you had to live with one person for the rest of your life everyone else died except a female or a male who would which one would it be it'd be a dude really yeah yeah sorry mom i don't know man one other person in the whole world yeah you have to fucking be with one other person for the rest of your life no other people in the whole entire world just a woman or a man and this is either you know george clooney or the top of the line female like well it doesn't matter the top of the line female what matters is her

personality right for if you're going to deal with a lifelong proposition the most important thing is that she's an easygoing person you can actually get along with so that would be the ideal move is someone who would you would be down for fucking. You're supposed to stay together forever. Joe, you're supposed to say your wife. You're supposed to say that. That's obvious. I think you would have to really decide how much sex you wanted for the rest of your life.

Yeah, I think that's pretty important. That's what it's really all about. You only have one person. I'm going to say my wife. Yeah, of course. You have to. You have to, but it's so all about. You only have one person. I'm going to say my wife. Of course. You have to. You have to, but it's so obvious. It's so obvious you can't say it.

It's like one of those, well, I love my wife. My wife. The best one is, what's his face? Groucho Marx had a talk show. I think it was You Bet Your Life. And a guy came on and uh it's where you found bob and the guy's like you know cincinnati you have kids and he's like i've got six kids and the groucho marx goes wow and he goes well i love my wife groucho goes i love my cigar but i

take it out of my mouth every now and then for back then that was like no one could believe what he said they're like what the fuck what did you just say you went crazy you went crazy groucho he was at the show where the bird with the secret word yes okay i've seen groucho was such a bad motherfucker he was a that dude was ahead of his time that dude was way ahead of his time dudes did not get groucho marx he had to tone it down for those fools duct tape down his mustache kind of weird shit was that yeah groucho marx was the shit he was a fucking smart dude man but the idea that the idea that the way that you know i think not joking about anything is silly the idea that you could tell a comedian that he can't joke about anything Especially when you absolutely know that they didn't mean that they absolutely don't mean that someone should get raped

That's not what they intent is supposed to be what language is conveying. That's all it's supposed to be what is going on in my mind You're pretending that you don't understand the subtleties of the conversation You're playing stupid so that you can get angry. And I think that is fucking maddening. That shit drives me nuts. They know no one really wants anybody to get raped. So you're playing stupid. You're pretending that it really does mean that and it's contributing to a whole culture of people believing that.

Damn it, bitches. Settle the fuck down. Calm down, Dan. Dan? Yeah. Dan. Dan? Yeah. Who's Dan? This guy said I was going to rape at the beginning of the podcast. See, why is that funny?

See, you didn't see, Joe, the beginning of the podcast. When I was on Audible, this thing came up in this chat room. It was like, hi, I'm Dan from Audible here to help you. Really? And I started texting him, and I'm sorry for what I said. What did you say to him, man? I said I was going to rape him. Did you really say that?

Yeah. You did that while we were doing the podcast? I feel bad because right when I did it, I was like, man, I'm too stoned. That was a really bad idea. So Dan, I did not mean it. Yeah. What if Dan's listening, man? It's like, that guy's an asshole.

Just made me feel uncomfortable. And then we got a really dumb argument whether or not rape is uh more worse than murder what's worse rape or murder the whole thing was so stupid what do you think is worse rape or murder would you rather get raped or murder the fuck out of here it's such a stupid if you're raping me i better already have been murdered i'm looking at it like that. Yeah, no shit, right? Save the rape until after I've been murdered. We've got to die eventually.

Maybe this is how we go. I was raped, actually, just the other day, man. I had my recent physical. Oh, sucks. Was it a ball or an ass? It was horrible. Isn't it weird that they have to they have to dig in your body and see what you got going on check your prostate let's see how see how freaky you live in wait till you get like i think it's 60 my dad said that when you turn 60

you have to get a tube in your penis hole oh just to check your penis hole okay remind me to check out before i'm 60 well i think they want to check to see if it's all swollen and fucked up in there. That's why a lot of dudes have to go to the bathroom every 15 minutes. Yeah. That shit ain't good. Can't be fun. Can't be fun. They say that if you beat off, though, you could avoid a lot of that.

A lot of dudes just quit beating off. They just tap out. Who are these people? For real. Who are these people not beating off? By the way, that is not a scientific diagnosis. People are like, I hate when he spelled pseudoscience. I'm not saying that that's a fact.

That is what I read on the internet. I'm sure that was written. It was in a sentence. I absorbed it, and I said, all right. There you go. They believe that one way to stop prostate problems is masturbation. Enlargement of the prostate. There you go. So dudes who beat off a lot, they don't have that problem with holding in their pee.

So if you see a guy peeing all the time and keeps getting up, he's either doing coke. Hey, man. Come on. Either put the sneaky pouch away or go jerk one off. The sneaky pouch, man. The sneaky pouch? Got to sneak off with the sneaky pouch. Is that a flashlight?

Is that what you call it, like a sneaky pouch? No, a little pouch of cocaine. Oh, a sneaky pouch. You take the homie's cocaine and you go to the bathroom and, you know, it comes back a little lighter than it went in. Now you have your own sneaky pouch. Isn't that a weird thing when you've ever been at a party and you know there's one dude who just has just enough coke for himself. So he's trying to sneak off and do it, but he doesn't want anybody knowing. And everybody's like, is this motherfucker on coke?

Like, what's going on? They don't let Joey Diaz get so fucking mad if he finds out that you did like, like he, I think, I don't want to say his name, but someone did it to him at his apartment, and he was trying to pretend he wasn't doing coke. He goes, you're going in my fucking bathroom. You're coming out all geeked out. You're not offering me none.

It's a weird thing when people want to sneak off and do their drug and in quiet yeah that's when i know it's bad news luckily i always had a little bit of that heart issue too so i never really got deep and devolved into any of it i never fucked with a few times when i was really young and then it was like oh i got a problem okay i'm probably a good idea to stay away from coke and meth it seems like everybody everybody that that gets into though, really enjoys the shit out of it. I mean, it must be doing something really wild while it's happening, because they can't wait to do it again. Yeah. It's fucking terrible for you, though.

I'll never forget this. I was on the highway, headed back from Kelly's Roast Beef. I know I've told this story before, but I'm going'm gonna tell it again and this is what i remember of cocaine there was a car that was right next to us the dome light was on and there's some people moving around the back seat and as we're driving up to them i look over and it's a girl doing coke and she looks at me and she goes fuck you and that to me in my mind was coke it was coke that's funny like some girl is like screaming fuck you and sticking her finger at me and i'm in the other car i didn't say a word i didn't i didn't respond i just i just looked at her and went wow fuck that drug. Man, last time I did coke, it was maybe seven years ago.

And the good part about coke is that it's just women love it. And so I said to one girl, oh, I got some coke. You want to go to the bathroom and do it? We were at this party. And she brought seven of the hottest girls. And we just pretty much sat in the bathroom. These girls just fucking going to the bathroom in front of me and we're doing coke with these seven girls.

What if they all started blowing you? Would that be the greatest day of your life? Yeah, that would have been a good part of the story. But then would you be sad that you did coke and then you couldn't get it up? No. I've never had a problem. You know what? I said this the other day.

I never had a problem with ever getting a boner on any kind of drug. That's a lie, actually. The one time I couldn't do it was on ecstasy at the peak of ecstasy now do you have like a really small penis it just fires up any at any moment because it just take a lot to load it is that what it is no it just takes one teardrop instantly hard from one little remember you remember those old John Holmes movies where homie couldn't get it up no

remember that no I never watched most of the John Holmes movies who he's always dealing with like a half rubber snake

because his dick was huge it took a lot to get his dick hard and those guys were all on coke like if you talk to the people

like they were you know doing porn back in the day those guys were all gacked out of their mind and they were trying to fuck on camera right you know and it's if the day those guys were all gacked out of their mind they were

trying to fuck on camera right you know and it's if you watch like the old porn like i did uh dave attell as a show dave's old right man i've seen it and if you sit there and watch the old porn a lot of times dude had hard-on problems the dudes like they would have all these hot chicks blowing him sucking on his dick and there was nothing happening like this must be for that guy the most frustrating video like how do you imagine if there was all this video of you where someone's just sucking your completely limp dick on camera with his hot three hot chicks and his lights and cameras the guys are standing there and you just can't get up fuck fuck fuck yeah i couldn't do it in front of all those people i think that would be the worst part

having just like the camera guys and stuff like that you have to be a sociopath maybe yeah or yeah then be ref

yeah I don't know if I can deal with it I thought one of the most fascinating chapters in porn was when Tara Patrick

married that dude from the what band was that he was in Biohazard or something yeah and then the dude started doing

porn with her i was like wow that's kind of shit i'm in that i'm in that book are you in this book oh what what what what are you in uh oh she just talks about me did you have a well it's not let's not go to all tmz no read the book You know? It's a great book, actually. Is it really? Yeah, I read it. It's really good. It's interesting. You really read a book?

I really did. Get the fuck out of here. That's the book you read. Get the fuck out of here. That's the book I read. That's why I can't remember Everlast being in there. Get the fuck out of here. It's brief.

It was right before who you're talking about. Isn't it Larry's song? Everlast's huge cock went right into my butt. Do you think that you could ever do that? You couldn't do that. What? Do you think you could do that? What that dude did?

No. You start doing porn with her? No. She's so ridiculously hot, though. She is hot. And you know what? She was in a video of mine, and we met, and I would see her after midnight of a bunch wow and you know and that was about it i bet that's awesome she looks hotter now that she's had a baby i think like her body is insane now because she's got like just more curves or something she's just

amazing she's not as far as amazing she's hot as fuck yeah thumbs up to you sir son of a bitch you son of a bee. A long time ago. Hey, whatever. She's a nice person. I met her. She's very cool. But anyway, this dude just looked out and started doing porn with her.

It's kind of a nutty move, man. Hey, watch me fuck my wife. There's something creepy about that, right? Yeah. Well, the story in the book is I was kind of fucking around with that broad uh-huh you know i guess she took it more serious than i did my wife read the book oh so uh no she she was like everything you said is what she said so right you know well that's good it was just basically basically i mean it was like you know booty call basically situation but i guess on her

end it was not you know i was more than that or something you're a special dude man i'm you know whatever but uh like i get a call on a sunday morning and it's dude evan who i've known for years before that like woke me up to like declare his love for her and i was like wow whatever whatever i hung up the phone and i called him back because he woke me up i was like it's sund's Sunday morning, 8 o'clock. I was like, you just call me. And like to clear love for like your porn girlfriend right now. I was like, it's corny as hell, dog.

It's in the book, man. My wife read it. She told me. Everything I said is in there. It's corny as hell. I was like, that's pretty fucking corny, dude. That is pretty corny. That was the end of that. Well, I guess though you would want to do that if like dude was your friend. You know. corny dude that is pretty corny you know that is pretty corny that was the end of that well i guess

though you would want to do that if like dude was your friend you know yeah it was sunday morning i was more mad about you you fucking woke me up on a sunday morning come on yeah when you fuck on camera isn't it funny like automatically you become like if that's your choice automatically you become like you never it's like a caste system in society that's like that's a fuck up you never really get over you always used to be a porn queen you know my wife knew my wife was a nude model but she that's a big difference yeah she never did no triple x yeah it's once people watch you fuck you can see your body that's all well and no problems yeah i got no problem with it it's once people watch you fuck. You can see your body. That's all well and no problems. Yeah, I got no problem with it. It's people watching people fuck.

It's strange. And I've always tried to figure out why. It's real weird. My thing would be mostly how you're going to – I couldn't wife nobody that like my – if I had a son with and 16 years later when God knows how available all that shit is going to be. It's so easy now to find porn. Hey, your kid shows up to you at 12 or whatever like why are all my friends pointing at you know showing me pictures of my mom sucking dick i mean it's that'd be just too i couldn't handle that yeah that would be hard to deal with for sure but my my real question is it's really why are we so weird about our bodies

and sex when it's the thing that most people are looking forward to the most. At least most dudes are looking forward to more than anything. Most of the motivation of most men is to try to get the most amount of pussy possible or the best pussy or the best wife, the best girlfriend. They want to be a bad motherfucker in order to do well with that. That's a weird desire when you really stop and think about it, how much it consumes. And then you get to be around 40 and you start thinking about other shit. Yeah, but what's crazy is it's like... Unless you got married at like 20 or something.

Those are the people that... Really freak out when they hit 40. That's why everything's falling apart in the middle of your life. You have too many questions that are unanswered. Yeah, they didn't sow their oats enough. I answered, I'd say, 99.9% of any questions I had on those levels, I answered. But my question is, why is it so weird to watch people fuck? If everybody wants to fuck, why is it so weird?

It's so like, oh, what are you seeing? It's way weirder here than it is anywhere else in the world. Yeah, it's totally. That's all our hangups that we've been hammered in. The whole golden age of the 50s and the modern family and all that have been hammered into our brains. And sex is dirty and rotten. Not rotten, but dirty and nasty and should be conducted behind closed doors

and not talked about at all. And only for fornication. Yeah. Only to create children. It's that old school. We still come from the generation that really believed that. Yeah. Well, when they first landed here, I guess that's what fucked the whole thing up,

is how many religious freaks made the journey because they were being religiously persecuted in England, which England is not nearly as religious on the whole as America is. So when the Puritans came here, I guess a lot of that shit stuck. Is that what it is? I mean, Puritans was the name because they were hardcore on living a Puritanical lifestyle. Does that make sense? So that's why in 2012 we're still hung up? Is it really because of that

that it was formed by those people? No, but then all this, you know, I'm sure there's been many people that have reinforced the psychology

for their own benefits and, you know. Yeah, I wonder with all these cell phones now, by the time kids get to be like babies of today, get to be grown women and grown men, we're going to have like, there's going to be everybody babies of today, get to be grown women and grown men,

we're going to have like, there's going to be everybody. You're probably going to be able to access people's memories. You're probably going to be able to watch porn in some sort of a fucking three-dimensional virtual reality where goggles you put on and you live the scene. People are going to make their own and you're going to be able to find people fucking. We're going to have real problems. There's going to you're going to be able to find people fucking we're going to have real problems there's going to be no privacy yeah it's getting there and when that comes i mean i or i you know i got my little mac uh you know laptop i keep a sticker over that camera dog whether i'm using it or not do you yeah i ain't fucking around man i

believe that yo somebody could turn that motherfucker on and just start watching you and there's hundreds of hours of you being off especially the cell phones and the microphone on your phone I bet I'm sure there's somebody could just sit there me like turn on camera turn on microphone what's going on right now that's great they haven't done it yet yeah I'm probably gonna do it yeah probably you just got a lot of me beating off that's all you got good Good luck with that, you creep. You want to release that, you creeper? We're so strange because we wear clothes.

I think we would have a totally different attitude if we were naked all the time. Let's try it out. Come on, guys. But it's just a weird thing. What kind of a fucking animal evolves to the point where you could barely exist in the world without being covered by something barely if you just walk around naked everywhere dude you're gonna get fucked up all right you're not gonna make it through that you're gonna get sunburned your skin is weak as shit you're gonna get bit by things you'll get all infected and fucked up

it tears easy you might bleed to death you have to what was that survival show recently where they had like the two guys that were survivalists but they were kind of opposite spectrum dudes like one was a total fucking hippie dude one was like a marine guy yeah dual survivor dude never wore shoes and he never you know he was he only wore shorts and a tank top and like that's how you know he did his thing it It was like, you know. I mean, I think you could re-adapt back to being able to live like that, but it wouldn't be no instantaneous move. But it would suck. It would suck bad. It would suck hard.

There's no fun in looking for bugs to eat while you're walking barefoot in the jungle. Yeah, man, your feet will start hurting quick, man, because shoes are nice. It is nice that they would know how to survive if the shit hit the fan, but if the shit hit the fan, what are the odds hit the fan, what are the odds of you living? What are the odds of you living? If the shit really hits the fan, I mean, you're talking about extinction events. You're talking about the real potential events, things that have happened unquestionably documented all throughout history.

They've found super volcanoes and all sorts of fucking meteor impacts. I mean, there's all these records of them. They've found super volcanoes and all sorts of fucking meteor impacts. And there's all these records of them. They're discovering just now, like 12,000 years ago. They know there was a huge meteor shower that hit the world because these impact glass exists on the same strata. Like when they dig and make core samples. It exists in the same area all throughout the world about 12,000 years ago. So they got fucked up 12,000 years ago. They got fucked up 12,000 years ago.

Giant fucking asteroids coming through the sky. Millions of people dead probably. I think if that kind of shit happens, you're lucky if you get whacked. That's what I think. You want to be running around eating people's dogs? You want to be running around trying to purify people's sewage? I trip on the fact that it

wouldn't even take something that crazy. I keep telling people, let the lights go out. Yeah, yeah. Let the power just shut down. Yeah, absolutely. Last time I was here, I think it happened. I was like, that might be it, man. I might have to make a run for the guns right now, dog.

I have a whole joke about how little we know about the power, but how much we need it. I mean, it's so important. No one even thinks about the fact there's a essentially a force of nature that pulses through your fucking house all day oh yeah i was in new york city when that big east coast blackout happened man that was like crazy like tension because you know the whole city thought it was something you know the next wave of whatever was coming at them. Oh, Jesus.

Because you don't get no news. You don't get, I mean, I walked around New York, I remember, just because we knew. I remember what happened. I plugged something in my hotel room. Something plugged into the wall. A few seconds later, the power went out. I was like, oh, did I overload my room or something? And then I go out in the hall.

It's out. Going downstairs, I realized the whole freaking city's out. We went to Times Square just to look at everything that was out it was crazy man wow and then crazy and then work let out like the streets were just flooded with people but the crazy the funniest thing to me was like instantly like dudes were like outside of their little bodegas selling bottles of water for like three times what they cost like oh wow hey seven dollars for a bottle of avion here you know like this man typed oh yeah man it was crazy you know and then there's the other half you then you walk up the street and you see like the dude

who's just directing traffic because nobody else is you know it was crazy man it was a wild day yeah some dudes look forward to shit like that so they could stay in the street and just tell cars where to go that's cool that people didn't go crazy like because that would be my fear that everyone would just be like ah no it was was more of an L.A. move. There was tension. What happened? Everybody was asking, what happened? What's going on?

Every once in a while, somebody's cell phone would work. I remember thinking. That was the day I realized. All that has to happen is the lights go out. Then you'd walk down the street to the deli that starts selling the food for almost half off because it's spoiling. The stuff that's in the fridge. Anything in the fridge, come on, take it, please. Wow.

But yet charging seven bucks for water. You know what I mean? The whole idea of cities is a strange thing. People's mentalities would break down quick, Joe. Oh, yeah. It would get tribal. It would get Lord of the Flies real quick. Real quick.

The only way cities work is if there's power on. Because if not, then it becomes a detriment. Then it becomes way too many people and no resources. You know, when you're in the country, at least you can go fishing. You know, you're in a city. Where are you going to get your food? What the fuck? Where's the food, man? There ain't no food coming in.

And it's instant. It goes away. Because really, it needs to be like pushed in constantly we got this weird crazy anthill sort of situation going we need to fill that motherfucker up with something we can digest to keep moving cities are strange so if you were an alien and then what about when nobody's picking up the trash every day yeah it's. So you got both angles going on at the same time pretty soon. It's nuts, insane. I was there in Harlem when there was some sort of a strike with the garbage men.

So they didn't pick up for a long time, dude. And there was, and I'm not bullshitting, seven, eight, nine-foot-high stacks of garbage bags on the street. seven eight nine foot high stacks of garbage bags on the street so you would have a narrow area to walk and to the left would be nine foot high garbage for like a fucking half a block it was insane and rats were everywhere big fat juicy rats running everywhere and you're like whoa people are living around this like this is insane right underneath. It's going on, pulsing underneath it the whole time. Has that ever happened on the Upper East Side or the Upper West Side? Have they ever had, like, a garbage strike? I've never even heard of that.

I think in the 70s or something, there was a citywide one that was pretty famous. Is that what it is? I think so. I don't know when this was. I don't know what was causing them to not pick up the garbage. I don't know what it was, but it was somewhere in the 1990s the early 90s like maybe 90 or 91 i vaguely remember something about it but it was crazy i couldn't i couldn't believe i was like what the fuck you would want to get out of here as quick as possible if some shit went down like this is the worst place to be

it's crazy man wow how the fuck did it get like that, where everybody's stacked on top of each other? Just keep going straight up. If you listen to the internets and the whole Illuminatis and all that, we're all in the perfect area for them to just wipe us all out because we all live in – it's like nobody lives in the country anymore. Right. Have a rich people go to the country day. I've never understood the whole – Hey, Have a rich people go to the country day. I've never understood the whole.

Hey, all the rich people go to the country day. Hamptons day. I've never understood the whole rich people wanting to wipe people out thing. I've always felt like if you were a rich person, you would need people to buy your stuff, whatever you're selling. You need people for resources. What are you doing? If you kill people, that seems like, where are you going to make your money? That doesn't seem to make

any sense. It doesn't seem like a good Illuminati move. I also saw a stat recently that was like, you know, how they say the world's overcrowded and whatnot, or overpopulated. I could be tripping, but I'm pretty sure I saw a stat somewhere that said all the people in the world would fit in the state of

Texas. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Like, with, like, elbow room. Like, you know, we'd all be able to stand in the state of Texas, like all the people on the planet right now. I don't know how crazy that is, but I know I saw it somewhere. Well, if you look at us and compare it to any other animal, we've populated really every single part of the world. We figured out a way to not just get there.

No, but look at America, though. It's, like, really, like, west coast, a gang of people, East Coast, a whole gang of people. And in the middle, you know, come on, we tour for a living, dog. I mean, I'm not saying there's not people. But it's much more relaxed. Yes, and it's a whole different kind of life. Yeah. It's like I've always found it like going five years backwards.

Right, right, right. Like when you step out of the East or West Coast just you know not in a disrespectful way i'm just saying it's like they're not as anxious and quick to be on the you know it's like no we like we like what's going on we'll slowly make moves on the things we like kind of thing one denver is one of my favorite cities because denver is like part city and part country it's part like mountain people it's like a big community of mountain people it's all the mountain people. It's like a big community of mountain people. It's all the mountain people that got halfway and said, you know what? This is good enough. We're good.

We got some strong weeds. This is good right here. Bobby just killed an elk. Yeah, we're good. Let's wait here. Why are we fucking around? Do you see how many elk are out here? We're waiting for an ocean. This is a good spot, man. I see mountains. I don't even see an ocean. Yeah. I'm a big fan of the ocean. i love looking at it

but it can't fuck with the mountains the mountains are some crazy shit you take you take mountains before ocean all day son all day have you ever been to evergreen colorado no mountains with a lake that's different like i need mountains with a lake like in the last few years i played a couple festivals in switzerland one called the Montreux Jazz Festival is pretty famous. And then this other one called the Blue Balls Festival is hilarious. But it's in a place called Luzerne, man. And they're both on lakes. It's crazy.

I could live there easily. Every time I'm there, I'm like, yo, I need to be balling out of control with a private jet and some of them Swiss francs, man. I need to be overing out of control with a private jet and some of them Swiss francs, man. I need to be over in Switzerland doing it. The problem is, man, to make that kind of money, unless you're an entertainer, someone's getting fucked over. Unless you're an entertainer or you're selling something really cool. That's why everybody's hiding their money, too. Yeah. That's why they keep it pretty.

Yeah, hide it in the Cayman Islands. They don't let you come in there and fuck around. Joe, your old place, remember when I used to say it, it looked like a trapper keeper. You remember those things you would have in school that you put your notebooks in? Yeah. They would have always

a beautiful picture of a mountain and a scenic lake and stuff like that. That's what your house looked like. Oh, the Colorado place? Yeah. It was ridiculous.

It was unbelievably beautiful. You'd look out the back window and you'd go, I can't believe they let me stay here. This is crazy. I can't believe people are allowed to be here. It was unbelievably beautiful. You'd look out the back window, and I can't believe they let me stay here. Like, this is crazy. I can't believe people are allowed to be here. It was just too silly. You're in the mountains, like literally in the mountains.

But you're around there with everything. You're seeing porcupines every day and deer all day. All day. I was getting deer back here up in the hills. Really? All day, up and down. Yeah, Pasadena has bears man they had bears jumping into people's swimming pools recently see i always like to live somewhere

because we were talking about craziness man i like to live places that have resources like other than like okay well if things went really bad i can walk right out my backyard march down that mountain and go find me a deer something yeah you know well i've always said ted nugent is living the best. You know what he does? He has a high fence place where he has like thousands of acres and they're all fenced in. And he's essentially got wild game running around this whole fucking giant ranch.

And he just sets up stands. He's got like feeders so they know where the animals are going to come. And it's essentially shooting fish in a bucket. Yeah. And he has to shoot a certain amount of them just to manage it because it's got a certain amount of land. Like, you have to monitor how many sheep you have, how many deer you have. But that is way healthier and way smarter than going to a fucking supermarket.

I mean, he gets to see the animal before he shoots it. He does all the butchering himself. He makes the cuts of meat. He grows his vegetables. Like, this dude doesn't need shit. That's really the way to go. He's got guns. He's got guns and he doesn't need shit. He can eat from his yard.

And if the bullets run out, he got bows and arrows. Yeah, he uses the bows and arrows more than he uses the guns. He's always bow hunting, man. That's it. The nooch. Yeah, he's a crazy fuck when it comes to war. But I'll tell you what, when it comes to living your life sustainably, that motherfucker's got it nailed. When it comes to his right about hunting, people are crazy to think that hunting is bad.

Because you either want one of two things. You either want hunting or you want to be hunted. Because that's the only way you keep the deer population down. You have one of two options. Either you're going to hunt the deer or you're going to put mountain lions out there that eat deer and anything that eats deer can eat you motherfucker oh yeah and eat you a lot easier every once in a while you'd hear about it back here like oh there was a like people that don't want a medium-sized dog getting snatched out of a backyard by a mountain lion check out those pasadena bears and for the folks at home, these are the gay bears.

Oh, wow. It's a term for gay dudes who are hairy who fuck each other. It's like a lot of Bert Kreischer's everywhere. Pasadena Bears. That is the Google search. It's really Bert if you did roids. Right. Like a hairy Bert.

Well, you're pretty fucking hairy too, mister. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you'd make a good bear. If you got on the sauce and started doing some heavy squats, you'd be a good bear. Wow. I would be. So a bear and her cubs were drinking out of some lady's pool recently. I saw that on the news.

Crazy, huh? Pasadena is only an hour, not even an hour, an hour from Arrowhead. Arrowhead is, you know. Yeah, it's right down there. It's like 40 minutes away, 45 minutes away. Something like that. Which is legit wilderness. I mean, that is. Well, I mean, there's Pasadena, and then there's Altadena,

which is obviously the hills above Pasadena, and then beyond that is just wild mountains. Wild mountains. Yeah, and then that Lake Arrowhead. You know, two miles from here, you're in the woods. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, this is a different sort of area, Pasadena is, than the rest of L.A.

They say that what Pasadena was was in the 20s, and, you know, they're making movies and shit. Like a resort town. Alcadena up there. There was a railroad that went up to Alcadena, and, like, all these rich folks had their little, like, kind of, like, sort of, like, Hampton-like Hampton thing going on up there. What is the atmosphere like now? Because Pasadena, I know, Pasadena has more crime now than I think it's ever had before. Pasadena's like the Beverly Hills of Pasadena. Is it really?

The crazy thing is there's always a lot of movies getting shot because none of the houses are the same. They're Spanish-style next to a colonial-style next to a... So they can make it look like anywhere in America. So it's all older houses from Hollywood people that made them? How did they get melt out here? What they were telling me was that Pasadena was where the studio producers and people would live, where the actors would live in the Hollywood Hills.

Right. Well, Altadena is what I'm talking about. Like in the 20s, I believe it was. Like kind of that 20s and 30s. It was like a little resort area. You could see some of those houses that are for sale online in Altadena. They've got some like really old houses. Yeah.

Turn of the century houses. Yeah. It's crazy shit, man. It's a good area, man. Yeah, I love the idea of living right next to animals. Peacocks and deer and was it altadena where the lady had the mountain lion sitting in her front driveway probably and she was taking pictures of it it might have been all i think it was yeah it was uh

really recently if it wasn't altadena it was real close to that with some ladies in her fucking driveway and there's a mountain lion just lying there. Just chilling. I think I saw that. Just enjoying himself. Just chilling. I've been gone most of the summer though. Do you ever think about living anywhere else? Like any other part of the country? I like Nashville.

Nashville's great. Nashville's like you drive 10 minutes anywhere outside of like downtown and you're in the country. Yeah, you are. Like country. You're in the country. And it's open-minded.

You can go out your back door and shoot, you know, shoot stuff. Yeah. You can shoot your guns. Like I went and sat with this one cat and was playing guitar with him one night again because he had a little, you know, a little something for me to, you know, partake of. So we were playing guitar together, and he was like, we can go outside and shoot some guns. He was like, yeah. He was renting the place and told me it was for sale,

and I was like, you know, it was like 25 acres and, like, a house and all this, two barns, and I was like, how much? He was like, oh, like six. And my brain was like six million. I was like, yeah, wow, six million. I was like, man, that's a pretty good price. He was like, nah, did you say? He was like, oh, like six. And I was like, and my brain was like six million. I was like, yeah, well, six million. I was like, man, that's a pretty good price. He was like, nah, man, like 600,000. I was like, are you shitting me?

I was like, yo, man, I might have to do that one day. Just get an extra house. Just grab me a spot out there. Grab a ranch, man. Yeah, man, for sure. You know what else is great? Asheville, North Carolina. You ever been up there?

I don't know if I've been particularly there. I've been to North Carolina many times. I've only looked at it online, but apparently it's like this really cool spot in the mountains where it's a small population, a lot of stoners, a lot of musicians and really cool people, and they're living in one of the most picturesque parts of the world. Like the mountains, like the Asheville, North Carolina, that whole area.

Asheville, I'm going to have to check it out. Look at it online. Oh, dude. It's ridiculous. Just lakes and trees and shit. Same kind of property. Yeah. Oh, yeah, man.

Sure, Asheville itself, it's probably a little more expensive, but outside of it, man, you can get giant chunks of land, man. Sure, Asheville itself, it's probably a little more expensive. But outside of it, man, you can get giant chunks of land, man. You can get just beautiful setups, houses on lakes and shit. Can you shoot your guns outside? I'm sure if you have a certain amount of acreage. There's a show, Mountain Man, that I watch. One of the dudes is in North Carolina. I haven't watched that, but I've seen the commercials for it.

It's the shit. Yeah, well, if you're interested in this subject. Well, my favorite show on TV is the one where they hunt the gators. Swamp people. Swamp people. And a perfect example of why hunting should exist. If those guys didn't hunt the gators they hunted every year, gators would be eating a lot of children.

There'd be a lot more gators. Wow, look at Asheville. That's insane. Yeah, that's Asheville. I mean, come on, son. Are you kidding me? Look at thatville. That's insane. Yeah, that's Asheville. I mean, come on, son. Are you kidding me? Look at that water. It's paradise up there.

It's fucking paradise. Yeah. I mean, I would have to see what it would be like, but I would think about living in a place like that. I mean, we'd be parlaying on them private jets and hanging out with them hedge fund type motherfuckers, man. You gotta get in time with the 14-year-olds. Any hedge fund motherfuckers that need their bat mitzvah or bar mitzvah played, you know what I mean? I'm just trying to get down and be your homie. I won't come at you too tough.

Just throw some of that advice at me. Help me get into the fast lane. I'm stacking my chips, but it's slow grind. I'm looking for that hedge fund dude that I like. I like Everlast. I want to smoke some dope with that. Where are you at? Holler. That's what I'm talking about.

You don't want that money, bro. You want the money that you're making. You don't want that hedge fund money. That money smells like blood. Yeah. But you know what? Buy a lot of soap. Soap. Buy a lot of detergent.

You know what's really going to bum me out, man? It sounds crazy, but when they stopped making real engines for cars, you know, a friend of mine had a Prius. And I know it's the future. I know it's progress. The thing makes no noise. It's electric. It's awesome on gas.

It uses less resources. But, god damn, it was boring as he drove away. I was like, listen to what the fuck that sounds like. Are we going to not enjoy driving anymore? Is it really going to get to that some point? I think they're still always going to probably do it just for the, you know, there's going to be one company like Porsche is going to be like, we're always going to make a engine. I wonder if they'll be allowed to because they're putting all sorts of crazy restrictions on them as far as like, you know, the future, like what they're going to have to be able to do as far as emissions. That's why a lot of companies are forced to go to turbocharging

because the emission standards are so high. They're going to lose the thrill of what an engine is like. Whenever you come over here, I get car envy. I love that fucking car you drive, that Audi. Come on, dude. We could trade up for a week or something. Trade up? Dope car.

You've got to get a real clutch, though, a real manual transmission, bro, those little paddle shifters. I love the paddle shifters. It's fun. Not a car like that, son. car you've got to get a real clutch though a real manual transmission bro that little those little paddle shifters i love the paddle shifters it's fun not a car like that son in los angeles in los angeles you can't fucking have if it's gonna be the only car you drive absolutely yeah and it's i'm just i'm i was that car was an impulse buy man it was i went into the spot mad at bmw because like they had jacked up their price on the 7 Series. And I was mad. I went from like $80 to like $110 or something.

I was just like, man. I was like, okay. I was like, I'm going to go just – I was just going to go look at some other things. I looked at a bunch of other cars. I looked at an Audi and I looked at a Bentley and I looked at all these other cars. It was just weak sauce to me. Right, boring. And then there was a row of dealers of all these cars.

It's right here, actually. I won't mention them because they ain't paying me. But, you know, it's always fun. But to get back out to where my car was, I had to walk back in through the Audi dealership, and that's when I saw they had an all-white R8 in the corner. And I just went over looking at it like, wow, that's kind of sharp, you know. And a kid came over and started talking to me, and he was like, yeah, I got a black-on-black one out back. I was like, I know I'm not going to buy this car, but yeah, sure.

Sure, show it to me, man. You know, show it to me. He's like, oh, you want to take it for a spin? I was like, oh, I could drive it? He's like, no, I could take you for a spin, though. I was like, oh, yeah, okay. I was like, well, whatever. Let's go.

I got time to kill. Took me for a spin. Took me up until back where the Rose Bowl is and then pulled the car over and got out. He tried to kiss you, didn't he? No. I was worried, though, for a second because he pulled the car over, man. He pulled the car over. I was like, what are you doing, man?

Then he got out the car and he's like, yo, go ahead. You can drive the car. That was the smartest thing every day because I took that car for like 15 minutes. Just went nuts. Did you ever have the car and i took it that was the smartest thing every day because i took that car for like 15 minutes just went nuts did you ever had a car like that before not not that no not like sport car like that i was you know i mean i had way back when like the 850 first came out for the bmw i had that and then i drove that can't fuck with what you got no no and then i drove the set i drove seven series for the rest all the rest of that time i was really like that's what i did i'd always have a truck and i'd have my my little bmw seven well your car is a mid-engine car and that

layout is the best layout as far as like handling feel and balance yeah that's such a great balance on rails man yeah the engine is actually in front of the rear wheels yeah so it just rides like a fucking dream just rides like a dream it's fun it rides like a dream. It's fun. It's a beautiful car. It's a spaceship. I got the 8. I didn't get the 10 because that's the car they had right there, right now. And I said, give it to me. I want this car right now.

Realistically, you don't need that 10. And if you want it, well, we're saying 8-cylinder over 10-cylinder. But if you wanted to, there's a company that puts a supercharger on the 8 and makes it more powerful than the V10. And it doesn't cost that much and it's safe and they know what the fuck they're doing.

They've been doing it for a long time. I just like the way like you're saying the way it growls. Oh, it sounds awesome. I like that, man. It's nice.

The supercharger will add a little extra whine to it. That keeps the little boy and me alive. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's fun, right? I'm telling you,

I have one of those Shelby GT500 Mustangs. You know what those are? Oh, yeah. It's one of the newer GT500 Mustangs. You know what those are? Oh, yeah. It's one of the newer ones. And the sound of it alone, I swear to God, it just gives me a smile. It makes me smile when I hit the gas and I shift the gears just to hear that engine roar. I think for men, I don't think anyone has ever fully documented it,

but I think there's a physiological thing that happens when you hear a a strong engine i think there's something happening to your body it makes you actually feel good you know it's like an animal growling yeah i think it's it probably produces testosterone or something like that i feel like i've read that i feel like i've read that you you're laughing right no no i i could see it probably doing something like that it's giving you the first night I had it, dog. I was just taking it out, and I was hitting corners doing 35, 45. Like hitting corners. Four-wheel drive.

Dude, you have all wheels up. Not only that, there's a button you hit on it where the shocks fill up with fluid. So you don't even lean. Magnetic suspension. It's like being on a frigging roller coaster, man. Is this it right now? Is this the... Yes this yes yes it's called the audi r8 and they have a v8 version of v10 version and actually a lot of people think that the v10 doesn't handle as well because it's got a bigger engine and there's a little bit more rear weight biased dream yeah the engine in the v8 is smaller engine and a

lot of people actually enjoy that car more but they started to put uh superchargers on them so they jack it up to like 560 horsepower and they're insane insane i chew up tires like crazy yeah it's great i love cars man i just love that someone invented it such a fucking you know you're getting a good car and took it to that level yeah it's amazing that's like a spaceship man when i saw it i was like man that's a badass car there's cars now like the you know like the shelby like a shelby gt500 they have a new one that's out that's 660 horsepower it's a fucking ridiculous thing to own nobody should be able to just go into a store and without proving that you know how to drive a goddamn race car get a car stock off the shelf with a 660 plus horsepower engine but you can go get it you can go get it right now and you hit that and it just it's just exciting you'll get a little goosebumps even if

you don't drive it fast like you got a smile on your face while you're driving women will never understand that they just want to look good just want to look good hair in their car and have a nice shiny clean car something i think they do understand it on just on a different level but they want to be in that car and then they know they'd rather be in that car than the guy with the rusted up tersel that's true but what i'm saying is i think uh there's like especially muscle cars there's something incredibly masculine about them something something that i don't think a woman will ever completely tune into. It's a beast. They sound like

beasts. You're controlling a beast. You're harnessing 500 horses worth of power. Yeah. This is ridiculous. 500 horses. That's what it's all about. That's why I say it keeps the little boy in me alive. He's playing with fucking 400 horsepower.

400 horsepower in an aluminum car with all-wheel drive, but rear-wheel drive characteristics because it only ever gives 30% of the power to the rear wheels. So it just helps you in corners and shit like that. You put that thing in sport and then put that shock thing on, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's fun. I mean, I won't lie.

Well, when you think about technology and you think about how much things have progressed, one of the best ways to look at it is cars. Because cars today, they have cars that go 0 to 60 in less than three seconds. And that's normal. And you can get them at Nissan. Okay? That's insane. A Nissan GTR is 0 to 60 in 2.7 or 2.8 seconds. That's mind-blowing

It's so hard to wrap your head around the fact that 1 2 3 you're going 60 fucking miles an hour That's an insane car for a regular person to be able to buy and they're making them better every year every year It's faster every year. They got this with Germany. They have this course called the Nurburgring It's like the one that they benchmark a lot of performance cars on it because there's all these turns and twists. So it gives a real accurate representation of how fast you could drive with this car in the real world. And those motherfuckers go around it with insane speed. There's videos of them online. I'll watch them for hours on end. I'll watch like, here's a Ferrari 458 on the Nürburgring. And they show them to you from the cockpit.

So it's like all of them around seven minutes and 50 seconds, seven, 40 seconds. So for seven minutes, you're sitting in there with the YouTube on full screen going. You know, how could you not appreciate that? How could you not appreciate what someone has engineered? Something that throws you around corners, like slightly sideways, controlling it. It's so wild to watch, man.

Yeah, I spent most of my summer in Europe, so every time we were on the Autobahn, I was, man, I wish I had my car here just to... Just to stomp it. Just to open it up. I've opened it up over the 210, that back stretch. You know, over the mountains where there ain't much. Late at night. Got it up to like 160-something. Jesus Christ.

The 210's a beautiful place. And then I start getting real jittery like the helicopter's going to see me or something. I'm going to turn into like a high-speed pursuit on the news. And so I back down. Well, those days are on their way out, man. With the advent of drones, you're not going to be able to get away with that shit. They'll have drones in the night sky, monitoring people's speed. Here we go on you.

You got your own video doing 160. Yeah, you won't be able to fuck with it. I mean, there's no way they're not going to have that lockdown. If there really are going to be 30,000 drones in the sky in 10 years that's what they said surveillance drones, these motherfuckers

they're going to cut back on all the fun that's when you move out the city man oh they're going to have it out there too dude they're going to have it everywhere it's easier probably to notice unless you're talking about these little mosquito micro bot things that you see every once in a while

pop up that's another thing that I heard that was really creepy about some cars without you even knowing it they keep a data log of how fast you've driven it they can go into it and they can access it and they can find out

what are you doing asshole you're going 150 fucking miles an hour what are you doing here you're going 150 fucking miles an hour well you want to track like what are you what are you doing here like what why are you going this fast like they can find that out from you can find out where you were from your gps locations it's like you're you're carrying a record of all your whereabouts probably a little black box somewhere in there i'm sure there is especially if you're i don't put anything past anyone, Don. Have you heard of this new thing that was released by WikiLeaks called Trapwire? Uh-uh. I'm having a dude come on, the guy who broke the story.

He's coming on on the 28th. I think it's the 28th. Anyway, what it is is they've figured out a way to take all surveillance cameras from all over the country and work them through a centralized database where they literally store all of the information, like every movement that's happened in cities and in areas, they've got a complete massive database on everything that everyone's ever done for like the last few years. Like they're starting to do it in these, in these areas and they're, they're putting it in a centralized database without letting anybody know. And it's crazy.

I don't know the, but somehow or another, they're all linked through, you know, Homeland Security or whatever the fuck it is. It's whatever organization is taking the feed from all these different places. But they're amassing a database of all of our activities all the time without anybody even knowing about it. And what's really crazy about that is that this marks an ethic. It marks like this is what they're thinking. They would like to monitor us all the time. So they're doing it as much as they can. Well, eventually, the technology is going to be better.

So as technology gets better, they're going to have shit everywhere. They're going to be able to look at you everywhere. That's what they do. That's what they do. You can't stop them. Oh, yeah. How's that going to stop? Are we going to have shit everywhere. They're going to be able to look at you everywhere. That's what they do. That's what they do. You can't stop them. Oh, yeah. How's that going to stop? Are we going to stop that? It's going to make for a lot better, those videos, like those hidden camera videos.

Like, look at this person. He fell down. A lot more cat videos. Because your cats do a lot of wacky shit while you're at work. And this way, you can go back and review. Let's see what Skippy got into today. Oh, you little asshole drinking out of the toilet again i heard there was a study recently where they put these cameras on cats and they they found out that cats are they murder way more than

they originally thought like these cats just did nothing but like murder animals squirrels birds oh yeah insects and they just are like they go on killing sprees every time they go out of the house they're cats man that's what cats do i've never been a cat dude i've always felt they were kind of they're creepy dark oh yeah i saw see for me it was also one time i was many many years ago i'm messing with some broad and she had a cat and i saw a cat go from the counter and jump up onto the top of the shower door, which is like jumping on a balance beam, but 12 feet above. If you were a gymnast, jumping 12 feet up and landing on a balance beam perfectly. And that's when I was like, yo, I don't trust anything that could do that, man.

It was half magical. That thing can fuck you up. I'm not talking about running and jumping, like standing there and springing up onto some shit. And I was like, no, that was some magical shit. I have a wrought iron railing that curls on my staircase. And this wrought iron railing is only about three fingers wide, like maybe three of my fat fingers wide.

My cat walks it. He walks it like a tightrope all the way up to the top. Like it's nothing. Like that ain't a problem. Like it's nothing. He's there 12 feet above, you know, a hard, you know, stone floor. This motherfucker don't care. He's just chilling.

They got no fear, man. There's all kinds of old, like, you know, creepy tales about cats that used to, like, sit on the chests of children and suck their breath out. Or they go, like, they lie on babies because they're warm. And when they lie on babies, they smother them. That shit's real. They turned that into many a folk tale.

But could you imagine if your fucking cat killed your baby? It's so scary, man. They're too smart. Cats are just too damn smart. They're creepy. Cats are robots. We just don't know it yet.

And totally, like, really don't give a shit about you. No. Unless they want something from you. Yeah, they want to be pet all the time. They want constant massages. Or fuck you. Yeah. It's funny.

Eddie Bravo is just starting to realize his cats are cunts now that he has a kid. He loves his son so much, man. I tell him, you know, he's talking to me about how much he loves his bunny how much he loves his cats i'm like yeah yeah that's all nice and good wait till you see little man wait till you have a son dude you you're ready to kill those cats with a hammer trust me obviously i was joking around i have cats i love my cats they're creepy but i love them but man now he's like this fucking cats they make noise when the kids asleep on purpose they're trying to wake them up like i try cats they make noise when the kids asleep on purpose they're trying to wake them up like i try to keep them out of the room so they go in there and knock shit over like they'll knock shit over and run around the you know the hallway they're like

they're fucking with him and he's realizing it he's like oh my god i'm living with a bunch of cunts cats are crazy man jealous little twats i would get a cat like if i lived like in the hills or something and i had you know so i'd have i keep a cat like if i lived like in the hills or something and i had you know so i'd have i keep a cat like an outdoor indoor cat those are bad those are bad news for for for you know the sake of you know keeping off any you know rodents and whatnot you shouldn't fuck with outdoor indoor cats for the simple reason of parasites an outdoor cat i'll give them a little all outdoor or all indoor but even i would have them if they served a purpose. Like, as just strictly for me, I'm a dog guy.

I've always been a dog guy. Well, you know, feral cats, people traditionally had them on farms in order to just, I mean, semi-feral, just to keep the rat population down. Because whenever you have a farm, you're going to have a lot of rodents. But that cat parasite shit is no joke, man. A lot of people have real problems in their life because of this cat parasite. And it's affected a massive amount of Europe, massive amount of South America. I'm not even here. It's all called toxoplasma.

They're just discovering it within the last few years. And one of the things that they're discovering is that it leads to a disproportionate amount of motorcycle victims. So they think it affects your judgment. And it also, they said, there's a lot of soccer teams, like really successful soccer teams come from countries where they test high with high levels of toxoplasma because it makes you reckless. It makes men, apparently it makes them more aggressive

and may perhaps even generate more testosterone. But essentially it's a fucking parasite that you get from cats. Apparently it makes them more aggressive and may perhaps even generate more testosterone. But essentially it's a fucking parasite that you get from cats. And it completely rewires the way your thinking is. There's an article that's written online. It's a fascinating article by a neurosurgeon who has it. And he knew that something was wrong. It's totally incurable.

When you have it, you can live with it, but it affects your judgment. And it comes from fucking cats. And it's creepy. It's a behavioral behavioral changer so cats get it from rats and rats what happens is the rat gets it and when the rat gets it the rat gets sexually attracted to the smell of cat piss so it surrenders itself basically to cats runs right to the hole like m night Shyamalan it is and it's real i mean that's it's really scary some old M. Night Shyamalan shit or something, dog. It is. And it's real. That's crazy, man. It's really scary. It is like M. Night Shyamalan.

You're so right. And we all sit around thinking about how arrogantly we're going to ruin or kill or take over the world or anything. All it takes is one cat parasite, dude, and we're all screwed, man. You know what I mean? The wrong one, and let that aerosolize. Well, they say that 50 million people are affected by it in this country alone. Crazy.

50 million. In Brazil, it's like 60%. In parts of France, at one point in time, it was as high as 80%. Now it's down to the 50s. But 50%, it's half the fucking people have this cat parasite, half of them, that changes your behavior.

Wow. It's fucking nuts. There's a guy named sapolsky i gotta get him on this podcast i have to talk to him talk to him about this if he ever has free time but he's a professor and uh he specializes in it and it's crazy and he's the one who uh he has a great video toxoplasma gandhi toxoplasmosis gandhi i think is the actual name that's fucking terrifying man that's why outdoor cats can go fuck themselves You gotta keep away from those creepy bitches They might get you with their

Dirty shit I'm in general not like cats And I'm a Leo Isn't that weird It's cool we're all Leos here And we're all getting along Isn't it crazy that you could Figure out a way to wire an animal's dick so it gets hard when it smells cat piss?

The piss of its murderer. Could you imagine? That's some devious shit. That's the most devious shit ever. That's physically and spiritually just devious, man. That's just, that's next, that's Freddy Krueger nightmare shit right there. It's nuts. Somebody could just spit on you or transfer a fluid or breathe on you,

and all of a sudden now there are agents at work within your body to make you behave differently so as to the killing of you by that person would be made much easier. Wow. That's awesome. And a whole species, like cats. You're going near cats. Like, what the fuck?

Cats? The one thing that wants to kill you all the time. And nature's like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That's where we want to go next. That's where we want to go next. Go over there, please. You smell that? That smells like cats.

It's almost impossible to imagine that that wasn't engineered. It makes you stop and go, who the fuck is working behind the curtain here? That seems engineered. That seems like if you wanted to point to some sort of intelligent design of the universe, I think things like that are compelling topics not necessarily evidence but compelling topics when it comes to the debate of there being some sort of intelligence to this whole thing what the fuck i mean how does it randomly happen it'd be like if we could go scratch a chicken and a week later it's at our doorstep cooked

like waiting for us to eat it. Yeah, we just throw some powder out there in the field. It just has the urge to throw itself on a roasting grill and feed itself to it. With a hard dick, wandering with their stupid black rat eyes, dead eyes, looking for cat piss with a heart on. What the fuck kind of world is this? Joe, would this happen? Look at the TV. Oh, yeah. That's like a cat.

How many videos are there of cats doing hilarious shit with their bodies? You can watch those. My daughter watches those for hours. Cats might be aliens, dude. They might be. I think they're robots. I think they're technology. Well, I just think they're super killers.

I think that nature needs cleanup. And in order to make sure that the limping fucks don't make it, there's cats. That's really what it is. And they're there. The little ones. What the fuck was that? See, that's what I'm saying. That looks like the devil picked it up and walked it away.

That cat just got up on two legs and walked out. What's the name of that just so people can see it uh cat walking on a thriller cat thriller cat wait for it thriller cat wait for it oh it's so silly though they're they're nature's cleanup man they're there to make sure that uh that it's tough to live and who's like when they do when somebody domesticated the cat who decided that having it shit and piss in a box was a great idea? It's the only way to keep them in the house. If you're going to keep them in the house, they have to have a place to shit.

Dana German has it go in the toilet. Really? Yeah, she has those bald cats where they're all shaved, and she's trained it to just use the toilet. I guess that's right. If you're not letting it out of the house, it doesn't make sense. Could you imagine the things that her cat has seen? Oh, God. No wonder why the cat goes in the toilet.

The cat is traumatized. Doesn't even know it's a cat. Cat thinks it's a person that can't talk. Doesn't know what the fuck is up. Yeah, it's weird having animals shitting in your house. It's gross. It's fucking nasty. I'm not down with it anymore.

That was always a turn off to me like if i would show up at some chick's house or something and i would smell that smell oh it's awful oh there's a litter box in your house it's gross especially if you're lazy you don't clean the piss out and you walk in the house you have that ammonia smell like what that's so dangerous for you like they're they i was watching animal hoarders on netflix which is one of the worst uh fucking TV shows in the whole entire world I don't know if you've ever watched it there was even one guy that had like over like 10,000 rats like his wife died and then he bought a rat to remember for some reason she liked rats and then it's just thousands and thousands of rats but one thing is the ammonia there was this guy that owned I think 90 cats in a

one-bedroom or something like that and the ammonia was was this guy that owned i think 90 cats in a one bedroom or something like that and the ammonia was so bad like the toxic level was something like crazy like 12 he had it like 90 like his air quality was just all ammonia wow that's crazy that's crazy watch hoarders sometimes with the wifey man every once in a while somebody will have so much stuff they'll put like a flattened like dead cat oh yeah wait watch animal hoarders that will freak you out they find dead cats all the time it's not weird that a lot of people do that they start storing animals in their house they need more animals or just even junk yeah junk books crazy that's can't throw out old newspapers once like my table gets too cluttered i, some of this shit got to get thrown out.

I just refreshed myself by got rid of all the magazines in my office. I had a stack of magazines. Stack. Maybe. You got to let go of some stuff. It was maybe 200 magazines. I've been good at that, though. I don't even have a lot of my own memorabilia and things like that because I give everything away.

That's beautiful. It'll impact them more than it'll impact you. I have a lot of my own memorabilia and things like that because I give everything away. That's beautiful. I mean, I wind up giving, you know. It'll impact them more than it'll impact you, you know, to have a real, everlast memorabilia in your house. It's just, you know, things. Right. I've had it all, lost it all, had it all, lost it all a couple times. So it's like I'm real attached to, like, not being attached to things. Well, that's the best story.

The had it all, lost it all, got it back story is the best story. People love that. They love people that fuck up. I do. I love people that, because I know that's what I do. I love people that can figure things out or that get through adversity or that go over a hump or that get thrown a curveball and they figure out how to hit it next time.

Yeah, you know. They're the most interesting people. They get up the next day. Yeah. I remember in the middle of my troubles my troubles that happened because of you know I had to like my I quit House of Pain I was doing a record my label didn't even believe in the whole yeah yeah we went over that and you know I'd given up like I would had the tax that my accountant ripped me off for some taxes, money.

I canceled my insurance. So it was like the perfect storm of like, here's the perfect time for your heart thing to happen to you right now. Well, it's a perfect movie, though. And then the bounce back? Well, the bounce back was kind of luck. That Put Your Lights On? That was not luck, dude.

That song is tremendous, man. Yeah. Well, that was a result of, like I said, coming out of the hospital. That's you and Santana? Well, I wrote the song. Dude, play a little bit of that again. Put it on his album. Put a little bit of that on. God damn, that's a good song, dude.

That song had some real feeling in it, man. There was a lot going on in that song. Yeah, but I remember my accountants, they were always telling me to file for bankruptcy and all this, and I was like, you know what? I ain't gonna do it. I ain't gonna do it, because I hate, you know what I mean? God forbid I ever really had to do it, but I was like, I pay my

debts is the way I look at it. I just like, you know, I got screwed over by this guy. I'm not gonna tell ten people over here I owe money to screw you because I got screwed. I don't play that game. You know what I mean? Your bankruptcy is kind of a tricky little situation, huh?

I just remember the day I got the call from my accountant that said, you know, my new accountant that was, that I broke even. Like that everything was paid. All my debts, my medical bills, everything was paid. And, you know, now you can start putting some money back in the bank took like a year wow some people it takes their whole life you know yeah people can hit a spiral man Who is cooler than Carlos Santana? Has anybody ever lived that's cooler than that guy?

He's undeniable. I don't know, that guy right there is pretty fucking cool. You're pretty cool too. I mean, don't get me wrong. But come on, man. Carlos Santana. What was it like working with mean, don't get me wrong. But come on, man. Carlos Santana. What was it like working with him, man? It was cool. It was like, I had written that song.

We've gone over the story a little bit last time. I had written that song and I had it, but like Whitey Ford's Sings the Blues was done. And I was doing Saturday Night Live. I don't know if we talked about that part. I was actually, you know, which was one of my like, you know, bucket list things, you know, playing Saturday Night Live. Growing up as know if we talked about that part. I was actually, you know, which was one of my bucket list things. Playing Saturday Night Live. Growing up as a kid, that's why I learned about a lot of music.

So I'm playing Saturday Night Live. We're doing the day before rehearsal or something and somebody comes in the room and is like, yo, Carlos Santana's in the building. He's looking for you. And I was like, get the fuck out of here. Shut up. And literally 30 seconds later carlos santana walks in the room wow wow and uh the guy who produced that song with me

dante ross had taken the liberty he heard they were looking for songs he took the liberty of sending them the song and santana fell in love with the song it was the way i understand and the way the story's told to me is uh it was the first song chosen for that whole project. So, you know, it was cool. It was an honor. You know, it was like I got this song and I was going to save it for my second record. But it was like, you know, it just seemed like an opportunity that I should take. Fuck yeah, man.

To be right next to Carlos motherfucking Santana. And you know what I mean? Right next to Carlos motherfucking Santana. And he was adamantly, I'm not going to say the word beg, because it implies some kind of, you know. He really wanted to be involved. He wanted that song for his record. He was like, yo, I want this song for my record. And it was almost like I can't take no for an answer.

How do I, you know, he basically let me know. He was being real cool about letting me know how much he wanted that song. And then you're like, you're buttered up by Santana. So it's like, yeah, all right, we could do this. Carlos Santana, who has made it through better than that guy. He's made it through better than any of them. If you think about all the people from his era and generation, they're all dead. And he's still relevant.

He's managed to stick around. Fuck yeah, stick around and still blow it out man his music is still married to uh the cindy blackman that uh remember that drummer used to be in lenny kravitz's band chick with the big pro really yeah that's his wife oh really she's i think she's been drumming with him too i think she plays for him wow yeah very few people like hit that cool level like that carlos santana level like if you don't like carlos santana something's fucking wrong with you man you got you got your own problems you know it's not carlos for sure you know i mean he didn't do none of you dude he's just out there playing guitar shut the fuck up So what do you want to play us, man?

Oh, I don't know. I figured I had to bring the guitar because I do look at the Twitter. Oh, dude. If you don't play, people would go crazy. If I didn't bring the guitar now, now I'm going to ask. We love talking to you, man. I hope we don't. But we love talking to you plus your music even more.

I can't even remember. I come here and we talk about like 90 different things and I'm leaving and I'm like, what did I even say on that show, man? I don't even know what I said. Yeah, well, welcome to us too. Is there any more joint? Yeah, yeah, there's more. Let me just play something off the new record. I got a dope thing, lean, got a cocaine pain.

I got a vodka den, itch, I got shit for brains. Got a hard-luck woman, got a few good friends. Got a couple nice hustles that'll get you some ends. an old man's soul got a heart of gold got a brand new shovel dig me out of this hole got a whole lot of nothing i'm ready to give i need a whole lot of loving girl i'm eager to live we go one for money two for show got a one trick pony you could ride her slow Cause she's good to go. When I'm gone for good, I'll be unappreciated and misunderstood. Got a brand new bag. Got a brand new style. Got a brand new baby girl that makes me smile. Got a pocket full of money. Got a payday swagger.

Got a.45 pistol and a switchblade dagger and I'm hoping I only fall like I A.45 pistol and a switchblade dagger And I'm holding on with all I got I see the world keep turning And fires keep burning it down We're out Holding on with all we got They're trying to poison all the water And make porn stars from daughters in town

Hey, you better wake up Water, stop messing around And quit pretending like the motherfucking walls ain't tumbling down I got a one-track mind Got a double standard I got a woman so fine And that's the way that I planned it Got a part-time job, got a full-time hobby I get drunk at the bar, fall asleep in the lobby If I'm late for the show, you don't have to worry I just live for the day so I ain't in no hurry

My vision is blurry, my head has been throbbing I got to fighting with the wifey, she hung up on me sobbing. Got a hole in my heart, got the guiltiest feeling. Got a bottle of the Jameson, that's how I keep dealing. Got a pill for the pain, got some trees for the blowing. Got 25,000 more miles to be going. I got no way of knowing, got no way of telling. Ain't nobody on my side and I got none I'm selling. Got the clothes on my back

Got the sound that I'm singing Got the love in my heart And the drama I'm bringing in Holding on with all I got I see the world keep turning Fires keep burning it down We're out Holding on with flower we got

They're trying to poison all the water Make porn stars from daughters in town You better wake up We ought to stop messing around Quit pretending like the motherfucking walls Ain't tumbling down Dude, that was beautiful. Figured I'd sing something that made sense today.

You know what I mean? It's one of my favorite songs. That's fucking badass, man. You know, your stuff has such an Everlast feel to it now. Like, you really nailed your sound. You know, like, nobody else could have played that song. Like, if I heard that song, I would say, well, that's an Everlast song. That's an Everlast song.

It sounds like an Everlast song. Yeah, it makes it hard to write for other folks. I write songs, and it's like, ah, I got to keep that. Yeah, you can't. That's mine you gotta write for yourself man it's too you you know you have this unique blend of having had all these life experiences and health problems and being fucked over and being up and down and man it just comes out in your music god damn it comes out good thank you man that was a that's a that is a badass

fucking song i'll say like this man i since coming here and doing this it it did two things it made a lot of people aware of like me playing acoustically and it also freed me up like i've been doing a lot of shows like this now oh man that's beautiful to hear we couldn't be happier man it's been fun it's. I really appreciate that sound. I think there's something real intimate about an acoustic set. I don't want to say it's better, but it's different. For me, it's great because everything starts that way. I sit in a room with this and maybe a drum machine.

Maybe I'll come up with a beat and a guitar line. But most of the time, it's an acoustic guitar and me. That's all you need, man. Some of the greatest songs ever. And when the lights go out, I'll still be able to do it. That's right. Exactly. Yeah, no, it's beautiful, man. It's beautiful. Oh, I gotta say to Dana DeArmond, I was listening to her, she's thinking

I was talking shit about her. We're just joking about what kind of crazy shit your cats must have seen. We like you, baby. We're friends. We're buddies. We love you. We're not talking shit have seen. We like you, baby. We're friends. We're buddies. We love you. We're not talking shit about you. Don't get oversensitive.

That's right. Isn't this like a comedy-based podcast? I mean, everybody should like that. Yeah, but people don't like being talked shit about, and she's just sensitive, and she's been on our show a bunch of times. I just wanted her to know, even if I make fun,

it's always with love, baby. You can make fun of me anytime, Joe. Thank you, sir. All right. You're too cool, man. It's really, baby. You can make fun of me anytime, Joe. Thank you, sir. All right. You're too cool, man. It's really tough to find an angle without coming off looking like a dick. You know? When someone's as nice as you.

Yeah, just the edges have been worn off, man, by this point. In my 20s, I was a just raging asshole. Well, I remember meeting you, you know, whatever many years ago it was. And I was, right away, you seemed like just a normal dude, you know? And it's a weird thing when you listen to someone's music and you've known them for so many years. Like, I knew who you were when I was barely getting by, you know? And you were playing in my car.

I was driving around, jump up, jump up, get down. You were in my car and shit when, you know, I was in my mad struggle period. Yeah, we're about to actually release a 20th anniversary really yeah yeah oh that's awesome with a bunch of remixes and acoustic versions but you are one of those yeah that's just not gonna happen because like actually the funny thing is i was just i was just i was just doing an acoustic show and it's like this dude started saying jump and i was like i laughed it off at first and then like i realized he was serious i was like dude it ain't happening but you know dynamite hack the reversion of uh jen and jim that'd be kind of cool if you could do it let me tell you something

man it'd be cool if somebody else did that you know what i mean it's like jump around is so goddamn good that i think it's almost like a disservice if you don't do it even if you don't even if you got to bring out more equipment. Jump around is like, you can't follow that. There is no more equipment when I show up for one of these shows. It's me and this and at most my buddy or another guy on an acoustic guitar. It's one of my favorite parts about Marcus Davis as a dude who fought in the UFC.

He would always come out to jump around. When those bagpipes go off in the beginning, oh, god damn, that was a good jam. That's like a... It does, it still, it stays in... Fuck yeah. Downloads, like, I'm amazed. They're like...

Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah. That's one of the all-time greatest workout songs ever. Ever. If you're lifting weights and you listen to that song, you get an extra rep in. It's paying for that car outside. Oh, I'm sure.

I'm sure. That's why you need to make an acoustic version. For vegans. For vegans. For vegans who occasionally eat eggs that they find. Vegans aren't even allowed to eat eggs, right? I don't think so. No.

Isn't that crazy? That's an embryo. It's not. It's only an embryo if it's been fertilized. I used to think it was. I used to think that every egg could become a chicken. Well, it's a potential embryo. Not even.

They lay them every day. They lay them every day. I eat the shit out of them. I ain't arguing with you. Oh, I know you don't. You know what I'm just saying. But I didn't know that it comes out. Like, when it comes out, there's no way it could ever be a baby.

Like, it is just an egg, and it's done. Like, even though she laid this egg, that is a useless egg. It will never be a baby like it is just an egg and it's done like even though she laid this egg that is a useless egg it will never be a baby chick so when is it regular chicks then it has to be fertilized so they have one every day and when a male chicken comes in and and lays some dick to her then there's a baby in that egg but until the male chicken does that she's just laying duds so there's no male come along and eat the duds so there's no males around then it's guaranteed just fucking dud city dud city yeah and you separate them anyway because otherwise they peck each other's fucking eyes out those cunty little animals wow what's a chicken look tastes like that's been fertilized is it even better is there

a name for it like deluxe egg uh no well it's called balut in the Philippines. We used to serve it on Fear Factor. And it was funny because my Filipino friends – What, like a halfway baked chiclet? It's like a duck embryo. And it's cooked. It's half cooked. Well, it's not like solid cooked, but it's still like gooey inside. But, I mean, they're eating the bones.

I mean, you can see the little duck. I mean, we served people this but my filipino friends like oh that's balut that's my favorite why don't you get me on your fucking crazy the funny part would have been if like just randomly that happened where one guy was on the show he's like oh my grandma used to make that all the time yeah what would we would know oh horse penis yes we would never see We would never serve a Filipino person balut. But we served it to a lot of other people. It's hilarious.

Like the thing called 100-year-old eggs. It's not really 100 years old, but it's a fermented egg. They dig a hole and they put them in the ground for weeks or months or some shit like that. The eggs turn black and they have a jelly sort of a weird texture to them. They're fucking disgusting. But people pay money for them. Like it's an expensive delicacy somewhere. Yeah.

That's what I call tampons that girls forget about. You know, sometimes they push like a tampon in too far. I call it a balut pond. It's like some girls are like, I had it in me for four days and started to smell raw. What? I know fucking girls are you hanging out with. You got to clean these girls up, man.

These girls are lost. They've given up on life. Four days? You forgot something was inside you for four days? I was dating this girl a long time ago, and I was fingering her, and I pulled out a piece of her tampon that she didn't know was in there. Right. And she totally freaked out.

It happens a lot. She was so embarrassed. She was so embarrassed. She was so embarrassed. She's like, I'm so embarrassed. I'm like, why would you be embarrassed? I'm like, you know you have to put stuff in there, so something got stuck and you didn't know. Why is that embarrassing?

I don't understand why that's embarrassing. Not everybody's as evolved as you, Joe. Wow. I was only 21. I wasn't that evolved back then. You sounded pretty evolved, if that's how you reacted. At 20, I might have been like,

what the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? Where'd this come from? I don't know, baby. I thought I cleaned it good for you, baby. I thought you cleaned it good for me. Just because at 21, you're like, what the fuck? I mean, I probably would have been a little weirded out

by that. Yeah. Was it just clean? Yeah, she had pulled it out. No, it it was it uh just clean or was it like yeah she had pulled it out no it was clean she had apparently pulled it out and left a piece of it in there broke off which was really dangerous for women yeah toxic shock yeah i don't know what the fuck that i guess it's as bad whatever it is this day that's four days of leaving a tampon up in you you gotta think so what's gonna get you that brian how how dare you? Tell your friend. Who are you hanging out with, Brian?

Word. The fuck is wrong with people in your life, man? It's all them junior high school girls. All right, look, it was Dana D'Armond. It was just Dana D'Armond. Poor Dana.

This kid wasn't Dana D'Armond. Dana's a really nice person. I don't care what she does for a living. She's always been a very pleasant person to be around. I know. You know, people say like, oh, you're just trying to fuck her.

No one's trying to fuck her. We're all friends with her. No, she's a great person. She's a very pleasant person to be around i know you know people say like oh you're just trying to fuck her no one's trying to fuck her we're all friends with her she's a nice person she's a really nice person and she's funny she's a funny chick i love her so she likes doing gang bangs whatevs i missed doing a podcast with her hey my life why don't you guys do a podcast anymore we just we're just so uh horrible like we'll be like hey let's do one today and like okay who should we have on and then we both just space out and we're just really bad. We work weird together. We're very spacey,

both of us. You just shut each other off. You cancel each other off. Yeah, well, you're doing too much anyway, man. You're all fucking stressed out. You gotta chill out. I've chilled out a lot.

Listen to some Everlast music. Actually, I've listened to his album more than I think any CD I've ever had, ever. Because it's always in my car, and it's always a go-to CD, because it's good.

There's a lot of good songs on it. I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass. Thank you, sir. No, it's beautiful, man. What else you got for us? Oh, I got one. I got one here I'll play. It's off my last album, which actually, I started this thing last week, and I might have approached it wrong because I was kind of angry when I did.

Sony ATV Music Group or something on Twitter. You can find it on my timeline. These guys, like, I have an album that I put out in 2008 that's not on iTunes for nobody knows the reason why. And it's like I'm trying to get these dudes' attention right now. Put this album up. It's called Love, War, and the Ghost of Whitey Ford. I did an independent deal with one of these publishing people.

How come it's not up? We got to push them to get this up. Exactly. There's a lot of shit up. It's also the album that has my Folsom Prison cover on it. Oh, really? Yeah. It's purely a red... it's not even red tape it's like just motherfuckers just ain't aware

so like last week i said i tweeted like hey everybody tweet these assholes about my record uh you know it needs to be on itunes and like apparently people got pretty nasty quickly but i got a response from somebody at the company saying, at first they were like, oh, that's real professional, and I wrote them back, like, real professional. I was like, you guys are fucking me right now because you don't have a record of mine up that I put out four years ago. And then they got back to me.

So I'm saying respectfully request these people to get my record up on iTunes. Yeah, no shit, man. That's fucked up. Because there's one person in there apparently working on my behalf. I can't remember their name at this time. So we have an undercover operative in the operation at the moment. So what is it, just incompetence? Well, we live by Tribe Called Quest's industry rule 4080,

which is record company people are shady. This just is what it is. That's what it is. They're dying, huh? It's the industry. It's a dying breed. I'm going to get the record up, but this song is from it. And this song I originally wrote when I saw imagery of kids in Palestine

throwing rocks at Israeli armored cars. It kind of just explored the mentality of the oppressed and how far you will let yourself be oppressed. And I've started to come to the conclusion the song's about a lot more than just that, though. It's about kind of like what could be going on here. So, you know what I mean? So it's called Stone In My Hand. Ride with the devil, hide with the Lord

Got no pistol, got no sword I'm out. Ain't got nothing but the stones in my hand You say you want a revolution, well get on board We'll start a new crusade, we'll start a holy war Don't need no orders, don't need no plan Don't need nothing but the stones in my hand Stone in my hand, stone in my hand Don't need nothing but the stones in my hand Stone in my hand A stone in my hand A stone in my hand

Don't need nothing but a stone's in my hand You build your fighter jets You drop your bombs You kill our fathers You kill our moms You kill our brothers and our sisters And our uncles and our aunts And still I'm fighting

With stones in my hand Stones in my hand Stones in my hand Still I'm fighting With stones in my head, stone in my head Still I'm fighting Well, the stone's in my head Stone in my head, stone in my head All the blood that's in my heart Stone's in my head

Let lines of gutters Smoke fill the sky Every son that suffers Every mother cries So if you've had enough And ready for your stand I'll be waiting With stones in my hand Stones in my hand

Stones in my hand I'll be waiting with stones in my hand Stones in my hand Stones in my hand All the love that's in my heart Stones in my hand God the love that's in my heart And the stones in my head God damn, that's good! God damn, that's good!

Thank you. Holy shit, dude! Woo! Wow. That was awesome. That is one of my new favorite songs, man. Thank you, sir. That is fucking fantastic.

Album's called Love, War, and the Ghost of Whitey Ford. Sony ATV Music Group. Get that shit up on iTunes, please. Man, when I was listening to that, I was thinking, I need to hear this shit again right away. There's a video for it. You know what I mean? No, I need to get it in my car on the way home, man. I need to figure out how to get it on my phone and get it in my car. I'm going to have to

download that shit, and I can't get it off iTunes. That pisses me off. That bothers me. I mean, it's a different version on iTunes, anyway. The album bar's got drums download that shit and i can't get it off itunes that pisses me off that that bothers me i mean it's a different version on itunes anyway the album has got drums and all kinds of god damn that was good dude it's fine it's it's it's revoluting that's a great song man that that has yeah that has everything it has everything man it's got it's the beat is fantastic too it's a a very uh the way you played it it was a very unusual sound for like an acoustic song i beat it up like a drum man

it's kind of like my thing it's like i was learned i was learned i was taught i learned i was learned i was learned how to how to how to how to strum the guitar but like to cheat this hand like a drummer like that's the down, that's the up, that's the kick and the snare kind of way my mind works, you know. Yeah, when you were in the middle of the, I don't know any musical turns, but when you were really going at it, man, it was like, it was both a drum and it was almost like there was a beat to it as well as, you know, hearing the actual sound of the chords. Grazie.

Oh, it's beautiful, man. It's beautiful. The words. Grazie. It's beautiful, man. It's beautiful. The words are beautiful. It's so inspiring, man. I have no musical talent at all, so I always say this. Music to me is like magic. You're doing magic.

What the fuck are you doing? You're making all this crazy, awesome noise. To me, I'm so musically retarded that it is like a form of magic. So inspirational, man. It's awesome, man. So inspirational, man. It's awesome, man. Thank you, sir. It's beautiful.

It's beautiful. Another one? I'll play another. I'll play as many as y'all want. People are always nice. This is another one off that record. I'll just keep it in that theme for the moment. guitar solo Got my pickup truck Got my gun

I got a taste for whiskey and pills I know I'm kind of fun Cause I'm my father's son Got a hole in my heart I can't fill Turn off the parking lights Down by the river's edge This is my darkest night, girl. Swimming in my head, it happens all the time.

I blow it every time, people change with time. Call me anytime, girl. with time call me anytime girl I miss you oh so often what's been said is done it's my only option I'll be anyone for you Anyone Out on the interstate I play my radio And I confess to all my sins Been driving seven hours Still got three to go

It always ends where it begins You got your broken wings I got my sewn up heart Girl all these fucked up things

They keep us torn apart It happens all the time I blow it every time. People change with time. Call me anytime, girl. I miss you oh so often. And what's been said is done.

And it's my only option. I'll kill anyone for you anyone anywhere anytime for you Anyone, anywhere Anytime, for you

Anyone, anywhere, anytime For you For you It's called Anyone. That was really good. And that was on the same album? Yeah. That song, actually, I wrote the night my father died, actually. Wow. Oddly enough, though, other than a reference to him,

it's not that much about him, but except for the feeling, it creates a thing for me. It's just about fucking everything up you know every day you know is that uh when you when you write do you try to do that a lot do you like um write things that are not necessarily about what you're singing yeah a lot of times you don't want to like you know i mean you'll lay out i'm sure it's the same even within comedy writing you'll lay out a certain amount of yourself within something and and you know use it in a con and you know in context to make it something else right right you know it'll it'll uh it'll become you know because the emotion is what we go after you're going right you know it's all about emotion so it's like you want to tap into an emotion it's like i want to recreate that emotion yeah all right i'm gonna

have to use a piece of it to do it but you don't want to necessarily yeah you're trying to tap into it yeah man it's a crazy thing the music can do man music is such a weird feeling it does to it like really like changes the way your whole body feels like You tingle and shit. I'm really stoned, too. I feel like I'm hypnotized or something right now. You think somebody could talk you into something right now? I don't know. Let's not change the subject. That's one of the things about cannabis,

cannabis and the connection with music. I hate being that person that goes, dude, you've got to try it it. You got to try it. But if it wasn't for weed, I really, I think I would be missing out on a lot of the levels of enjoyment that are possible. Because there's some levels of enjoyment when you're high. And one of them is listening to the music. When you're high and you listen to like comfortably numb, you know, you hit some old school Pink Floyd when you're high. And you hear all the subtle nuances to the song that you never recognized before.

Yeah. And it's just, it overcomes you. In a wave. It's what I like to refer to as the highest common denominator. You know, it's like when we all hit that intelligent moment of like not to, you know, there's a lot of music that caters straightly to bass, nature and bass. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

straightly to bass nature and bass yeah you know yeah then there's that music that like really inspires to do what we're talking about like find that emotion find that thing and really accurately describe it somehow where the next person says fuck me too yeah yeah damn how did you know that about me how did you how did you know how to say that about me like when you do that in a song or a joke you know i mean half the reason the real belly laughs come from motherfuckers you're like oh yeah i know exactly what he's talking about and he's so fucking right about when you hit it you hit some certain lyrics and people just go oh that's my fucking song that's my song he's playing my song there's certain songs that become your song man like you just want to hear the, they give you a feeling, you know? Man, I can remember being a kid,

like, right out of high school, and I was at a friend of mine's house, and he was having a little backyard party. Everybody was laughing. Everybody was having a good time. It was like life had not gotten too complicated yet. I was still, like, only 18, and Sweet Home Alabama came on.

He had a little boom box, and don't, don't, don't, don't don't don't that fucking song. Oh, man, it was. Oh, right away. It was like we were smiling and laughing and drinking beers and talking shit. That song will always, whatever. I don't know what a key is. It sounds good.

That song will always... I don't know the whole song. Something like that. I don't know. That was a great goddamn song. That's an all-time classic. I used to do one for Snoop. That was a great goddamn song. That's an all-time classic. I used to do one for Snoop. That was... Sweet home California

Where the Crips stay all wear blue It was funny. That's awesome. That's hilarious. You hang out with Snoop a lot? I mean, I wouldn't say a lot because, you know, lives are lives. And he's like one of them dudes that's just, he's like Dana White, man. I'm going to fucking wake up in a different place every fucking day of his life.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I love traveling and working. Yeah. There's a limit, dude. I got to be at home. Yes. I got to drive my car once in a while. Hit the Olive Bar like I'm talking about.

Y'all know the Olive Bar. No, the Olive Garden. Brian Weaver discussed this with him. Stop being stupid. The Ralph's. Yeah, Ralph's. Ralph's Olive Bar. Or Gelson's sometimes has a nice one.

Whole Foods has a good one, too. Whole Foods, too. Yes, they have a good one. They have the bright green olives that you rarely see. I'm all about them. I'm all about them. With the pits. I'm down with olives. I'm all about them. With the pits. Olives are disgusting.

What the fuck? To you, how about a little respect? I can't get into them. They taste like black licorice vegetables. Yeah, I love it. Sounds good. Give me more. It's good for you. Hard to grow, too. Some places where they really didn't have much nutrients, but they're growing

these stupid olives. Olives that grow on the side of a dirty hill with no rain gas all the people in greece yeah and then you have to like treat them before you eat them unless you're a dog my dogs eat them right off the fucking ground they're constantly eating olives i'm like you creepy bitches and then they get diarrhea now you know that doesn't happen to me dogs eating olives no diarrhea when you eat olives yeah yeah but i I'm talking about some shit on the ground. When a dog eats olives that they found on the ground, you're not supposed to do that. What gives you diarrhea? You got a problem with the digestive tract, son?

What gives me diarrhea? Is that going to be something you're going to store in the bank for later? Well, he has two questions for you. That's one of them. And the other one is, do you believe in Bigfoot? I already said who killed Biggie. Yeah, we already did that one. But do you believe in Bigfoot is a good one.

Yeah. The funny thing is, I just watched an in-depth show on one of these things called, it's like fucking, like about this show on like his history channel or whatnot. It's all about connecting like the ancient world with aliens. Right. Ancient aliens. Is that what it's called? Yeah, on the History Channel. And one of them, they're trying to say Bigfoot is possibly some kind of hybrid

fucking hybrid alien creature. Is it possible that Bigfoot and that he's traveling interdimensionally and that's why we're never catching him because he's moving through portals of time and space that we can't possibly understand. Well, it could be.

Fuck, let's make a show. Didn't this guy die? The guy who said he perpetrated the whole Bigfoot thing and they found all these casts and things he made to make foots? Am I wrong about that? Yeah, yeah. There's more than one person, first of all. There's been a lot of people.

But like a big, I remember a few years ago, a guy died and they were like, he says everything was a hoax. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's been people that have done hoaxes. I checked out after that episode. See, there's people that, there have been people that have done hoaxes. There's no question about it. There's been a lot. But if there's not one guy, if there have been hoaxes, there have been hoaxes all over the fucking country and all over the Pacific Northwest.

There's a lot of shit in the Pacific Northwest where it's like Monkey Canyon, Ape Creek, Ape Bluffs. It's ape. A lot of ape shit. And one of the reasons is because the Pacific Northwest coast of the United States has a long history of Bigfoot sightings. Is it people are high as fuck and they just see a bear walking on two legs? It's possible. Who the fuck knows? Is it possible that there was a big primate that used to live in the woods that's possible too man oh yeah that's possible i don't i don't say it's impossible i'm just saying at this

point really all the technology iphones this that nobody's caught a flick of the dude you would think that nobody's caught a flick and if they do catch a flick it's like it's like fucking i just saw something on yahoo or something just in the last couple days about a guy who says he caught the best picture ever of the Loch Ness Monster. Yeah, I saw that. And it was like a little kind of spine, and even in the article, it says it looks like it was a manatee or something. Yeah, and if the Loch Ness Monster was real, even if it was a real thing,

it wouldn't fuck with a great white shark. A great white shark, which is a real thing, is way crazier than this stupid Loch Ness monster. The Loch Ness monster's not killing anybody. Unless it's a dragon. They had to shut down the beaches in Santa Barbara. Unless the Loch Ness is a dragon, Joe. What if the Loch Ness was a dragon that lived underwater?

Oh, if it actually has fire? Yeah, but there's no evidence of that. Last dragon. Okay, well, what if it was a unicorn? Okay? But my point is... Y'all are watching too much of that Game of Thrones, man. That's what it seems like to me.

Greatest show of all time. It's up there. I have it tied with... See, I only got into Breaking Bad recently, like right before this new season started. Danny Boy had always been trying to tell me, that's a great show. I got so bored on my last tour traveling,

I downloaded all the seasons, and they had a special deal, like 30 bucks, and you get all four seasons. I was like, screw it. I'll buy it. I started watching it. I did not stop for like six days watching Breaking Bad. I have to get back to it because I did it from this whole right tattoo, my right sleeve.

The whole time I did it, Aaron De La Vadova guru tattoo. Holla at your boy. While he was doing it, I listened to or watched rather the whole first season. I was like, God damn, this is a bizarre show. It gets better, dude. They haven't let me down yet. I'm waiting for the... It's nice. It's a good show. What is his name? Bryan Cranston? Is that his name?

The lead actor? Yeah, I think so. God damn, that guy. The dude who plays the younger dude was in one of my videos many years ago. White Trash Beautiful. It's that dude. What's his real videos many years ago. White Trash Beautiful. Yeah. It's that dude. What's his real name?

I forget. He plays Jesse. We just had him over on the studio the other day. Man, I see his name all the time. Who did you have him in here with? Who was he friends with? It's a naughty show, but at the last second, his manager said that he can't do it, so he just had to sit here. What?

Yeah. Why does he... What? Because he's in some kind of bullying campaign so he's not allowed to do any adult themed uh podcast until like because it's like for the kids and stuff so he's in a weird contract what does bullying have to do with sex i don't know erin something or isn't it weird how they like they can decide what your personality should be like they can decide what you attach yourself to anyway he was in one of my videos. He played a truck driver. Yeah?

Yeah. In White Trash Beautiful. That's the video. Oh, that's awesome. Jesse. Sniffing fucking math in there, dude. Yeah, that's an unusual show. I've heard The Wire is really awesome, too.

I love that show. I mean, but that show's over. That might be the best cop show ever. Never watched it. I watched a couple episodes, and apparently it gets really good. I didn't give it a chance. show's over you know that might be the best cop show ever never watched it i got watched like a couple episodes and apparently it gets really good i didn't give it a chance the first two seasons i kick off really hard and then they go off into this other tangent where they almost lost me at that time like where they went off to a whole different part of the city and like did a whole

new story and kind of like almost it felt like they were scrapping the whole earlier shit but it all kind of comes around into a circle. And it was one of the best endings I think I've ever seen. No, I won't tell you. I'm just saying it ends well. It doesn't leave you like, oh, it felt like a complete project. All right, I'm going to have to get to it now. God damn it.

It's good. Everybody says you have to. Yeah, the wire is good. You have to get a chance. It's great. I just love that they can do shit like what they can do with game of thrones now i mean you can make like incredible special effects for a fraction of what it used to cost they can do it with like regular computers now i shook johnny cash's hand in my video not even shake his hand i gave him a pound like really oh yeah dude in the

wholesome prison video we got problem when i made that song, I'm serious about shit. Is that on the line? Can we see that? I went to Nashville and met with his son just to be like, look, are y'all cool with this? Because I was mixing it with hip hop with the Cypress Hill beat on the version that's on the record. So I wanted to be respectful as I could to Johnny Cash's legacy. So I took it to them and I was like, yo, you liked the song? You loved it.

And then when I was thinking of ideas to do the video, we came across the stuff that I had known about it, but I had forgotten about it. They had just released this DVD box set of the Johnny Cash variety show. And so I bought it and started watching it, and I was like, how great would it be if I was on the Johnny Cash show? And there it was, it's just behind you.

Like he had his own, he had like a variety show and like, they let us use the footage, man. They liked it. I mean, that's something they could have easily been like, hell no,

you can't use that. I mean. That's so awesome. Look at that. I hear that's so awesome they're singing along That train just keeps a-rollin' Run down the sand and tone And I was just a baby And all those edits and fades

are the style the show would use. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Don't ever say we're guns But I shot a man in Reno Just to watch him die Yeah! It's just funny. It was like, you know, but the point is, like, you were talking about how cheaply you can do some of this stuff, man.

It really didn't cost that much at all because the technology is there, you know. Wouldn't you have loved to be able to perform for a crowd like that, a real crowd like that, and just blow their motherfucking minds? The very end is me and him sitting next to each other, and he gives me a pound. I've always felt like, what would it be like to be able to go back to the 1950s and do stand-up and just fuck their brains up sideways? They would have no idea what you're doing.

They'd be like, what is this guy saying? What? What are you talking about? Just cursing you'd be like, what is this guy saying? What? What are you talking about? Just cursing you'd be. Yeah. Could you imagine going up and doing – Did you see that, dog? That was funny, man. Could you imagine if you did jump around in front of a 1950s crowd?

Oh, that is awesome. Blow it up. How'd you do that? I don't know. I sat next to a dude. I sat next to a dude and he was wearing a black jacket and gave him a pound, and the next thing you know is Johnny Cash giving me a dude and gave him, he was wearing a black jacket and gave him a pound. And the next thing you know, is Johnny Cash giving me a pound back, man.

That shit was crazy. That's cool. Wow, that looks good. That's some Forrest Gump shit right there. Forrest Gump. That's amazing. You know, that's what it was. It was like, let's get on some Forrest Gump type shit.

That's amazing, man. Jump onto the old Johnny Cash show What do you think would happen if you went in front of a 1950s crowd and did jump around Do you think they would be able to deal with it Fucking look at you like you were bat shit crazy Imagine there was no hip hop Okay so there was no amalgamation of hip hop There was no what the fuck you guys were doing

Bagpipes and shit It was all rowdy Jump off jump off They would just look at you like you were fucking an alien i'm sure of it they'd be frightened by the sounds that the song made first of all they're yeah i don't we'd find that frightening just the way you're barking out the lyrics i'm the queen of the crop like you're like what the fuck they didn't know there was no bragging music back then not like that no it's like the leader of the pack

yeah can you imagine you come along we jump around god damn it's funny how the culture just sort of evolves and changes

and it's hard to imagine it ever going back to where it was in the 50s or the clothes they wore in the 70s or any of that shit it's never gonna happen but you can see where back then that was what was up that's what was up to where it was in the 50s or the clothes they wore in the 70s or any of that shit. It's never going to happen. But you could see where back then that was what was up.

That's what was up. You could see it all laid out. You could see it all moving forward. We're just tired of the old shit. We need something new. It gets more and more complicated. We live in a fucking weird maze of humanity, man. Human beings are the wackiest motherfuckers

of all time. Yeah, there's a lot of broken machines out there, man. There beings are the wackiest motherfuckers of all time. There's a lot of broken machines out there, man. There's no manuals. Everybody gets a Ferrari with no fucking owner's manual. We're all just grinding gears and running into trees and shit.

You know, you're not figuring out how to use the mine correctly. You got another one for us? I got as many as you need, man. I'll do this. I know you do. I'll be like, Joe, you got another joke for me? Let's do it.

I'm trying to think what to play here. Do you do any other kind of covers? I can really butcher some Bill Withers. Bill Withers. This is really bad. I have a bad guitar playing, but I like this song. I'll play it since you want to cover it now. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Grandma's hand. Clapping church on Sunday morning. Grandma's hand Clapped in church on Sunday morning Grandma's hand Played the tambourine so well

Grandma's hand Used to get you all worn And she'd say Billy, don't you run so fast Might fall on a piece of glass Might be snakes down in that grass Grandma's hand Grandma's hand

Soothed the local unwed mother Grandma's hand Used to ache sometimes and swell Grandma's hand Used to lift her face and tell her she's safe Baby, Grandma understands That you really love that man Put yourself in Jesus' hands Grandma's hand Grandma's hand Used to give me a piece of candy

Grandma's hand picked me up each time I fell Grandma's hand used to really come in handy She'd say, Maddie, don't you whoop that boy What you wanna spank him for? He ain't dropped no apple core, but I don't have grandma anymore. When I get to heaven, I'll look for grandma's hand. Grandma's hand. That was awesome.

Shit. You know, that's one of my heroes. Wow. That's beautiful, man. You know, you've sung 20 of his songs. Like, ain't no sunshine. Fuck this. Lovely day, lovely day.

That dude's the shit. Bill Withers. If you ain't seen it, you should check out Still Bill. He's the... That dude's the shit. Bill Withers. Bill Withers. If you ain't seen it, you should check out Still Bill. Yeah. It's a documentary about him. It's really good. Is he still alive?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's out there. But he don't... He has a studio at his house. He makes music and locks it away. He don't release it. Nothing, dude.

He just makes music. Oh, wow. He's just on some... Fuck the music business kind of shit, man. It's crazy. What about all the people that would love to hear it? I don't know. You know what?

I got to re-watch it, but I remember because I watched it on the bus where you get, you know, I watch it for a little while, I watch it a little while, but it's like, you know, his daughter's in the business. I think he's just, I mean, his songs, I'm sure his catalog makes a lot of money, man. Isn't that crazy? Because you hear his songs like everywhere. Movies, that Use Me song, and Ain't No Sunshine, and Lovely Day. Ain't No Sunshine.

Who is he and what is he to you? A man with pasts just tried to stare me down. But when he looked at you, you looked at the ground. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Those songs are everywhere. Grandma's Hands, that's a classic. It's got a song about a Vietnam veteran called I Can't Write Left-Handed

by the guy who lost his right arm in the war, and he can't write left-handed. It's crazy, man. Deep songs, I like that. There's all the hip-hop heroes I have, and then there's cats like Bill Withers, Neil Young, Tom Waits. Those are the cats on the songwriting side of things that tickle my fancy. Yeah, Neil Young has written some pretty intense lyrics.

He's a good dude. I was working at a concert venue when Neil Young was playing there, and a riot broke out. They had to shut the show down. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it was in the 80s. There was a lawn area. It was called Great Woods.

It's in Mansfield, Massachusetts. I think I know Great Woods. And there's the area that's, like, covered by, like, a structure. Yeah, we call them sheds. Shed. Yeah, yeah. And then there's a back area where it's grassy. Like amphitheaters is what they are.

Yeah. And the grassy area, they started fires. People were cold, and so they lit things on fire and they stand and then the security came over and told them they got to put the fire out and next thing you know all hell broke loose and it was crazy and they shut the show down wow fucking people were they were lighting fires they were like let's just start a bonfire in the lawn he's always want to have the fire you know there were just too many people that were fucked up too that's funny yeah

yeah it was it was interesting man but it was i getting to see him on stage from like really close up i was like 19 when i had that gig is uh it's a weird thing for a young kid to see someone that they've seen like in movies or on heard on a record and then they'll they're like right there like he's they're right there it's's a strange thing for young people to. I really dig Neil Young, man. My father was big on Neil Young. So it's one of the things is like when you're young and you hear this music and you kind of just reject it on general principle because it's your parents' music.

Right. And then 20 years later you reexamine it and you're like, wow, man, I know all these songs and they're really good. Yeah. That's kind of where all that comes from and a good memory for the music yeah there was a lot of song that i had to go a lot of music that i had to go back to um what is that um listening to the tide slowly turning. Who sings that? Wash your heartache away. Moody blues. Moody blues.

My parents had that, and I fucking didn't like it because my stepfather was always playing it. I'm like, this shit's annoying. I want to play some Kiss. Right. I couldn't get into it. I was like, that's his old man whack music. You know, I just couldn't.

Yeah. But as I got older, I would listen to a Moody Blues song and go, my God, that's a fucking masterpiece. Like, holy shit, Moody Blues don't get any respect. Nobody's like, I'm a huge Moody Blues fan. Yeah, you're right. That doesn't come up. Pull that song up, just the beginning part of it, because this is a beautiful song, man.

And I couldn't appreciate it. What's it called? Story of Your Eyes. Is that it? I'm not a big Moody Blues fan. Story in your eyes, Moody Blues. I was never a big Moody Blues fan. It's not even that I don't like them.

Honestly, I barely recognize the song you sang me. I bet you've heard it before. You've heard this. Yes, I've heard this. I've definitely heard this. Oh, fuck yeah. This is pre-internet, bitches. I've been thinking about our fortune

And I've decided that we're really not to blame For the love that's deep inside us now Is still the same Can you feel this? I didn't do it at all, man. Hey, but that's music. You know what I mean? I love that. You know what I love about that song, man? First of all, that dude must have got a mountain of pussy from singing that song.

I mean, I want to fuck him, and i'm a guy years later kind of reminds me also like blue some blue oyster coke a little bit yeah i was never big on them either oh i love that song man story in your eyes that's it but one one of the reasons why i love it is like some dudes love old cars you know it's not just a song to me it's like a little historic ride of course yeah so i when i listen to jimmy hendrix when i listen to voodoo child it's not a song to me it's a historic ride i'm gonna go i'm gonna go on a ride as a dead man and he's rocking the shit out of my car on the 210 i'm driving in my car and a dude who's been dead simultaneously transporting you to probably the first time in your life where you heard that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I always associate, one of the reasons why I like classic rock so much is that it's what I associate with that Leonard Skinner song,

when we're out at a barbecue, right out of high school. Party. It's fun music. Absolutely. Jimi Hendrix, man, Listening to that shit in 2012. He's dead for decades. But all you have to do is find that shit on your thing, press play. Can you do it with that?

Oh, no. I don't know that song. I used to know a Jimi Hendrix song. Now I can't. For the life of me, I can't know that song. I used to know a Jimi Hendrix song. Now I can't, for the life of me, can't remember it. All right, is that it? I know a little bit That's one of the things One of the things you pull out for like Barbecues or beach fire pits.

You add an effect to your voice. Isn't it interesting? With dudes like Hendrix, there's certain iconic figures, like James Dean and Hendrix and Morrison. You know, they had an impact. And then they're in the picture forever. They're in the picture forever. You're never getting away from Jimi Hendrix.

If there's a guitar, if someone's talking about guitar, if you want to use a sample, one of my favorite songs ever is someone made a mashup of 99 Problems with Voodoo Child. It's fucking sensational. It's hard to fuck with because you got Jay-Z singing 99 Problems, which is a great song, and then you got Jimi Hendrix playing the Voodoo Child soundtrack over it oh there's certain dudes but isn't it crazy that certain dudes like there's certain people parts of society where if you you have an immense amount of success and then

die young you're just in you're in the vernacular forever you're you're you're one of the characters i think but most also not just the success those people have had. I mean, like, there was an impact. Like, nothing sounded like Jimi Hendrix before Jimi Hendrix. I mean, even the guys at the time, like Clapton and Keith Richards and all these dudes were like jaw-dropped.

Like, what the, this dude's ruining it for everybody. You know, that kind of thing. Janis Joplin, you know, nobody had seen a white girl sing with that kind of just anguish. You know, there was, at that moment, a lot of, you know, what had, like, that era is like basically nothing, the only thing new in the last 30 years, truly new in music, was hip-hop. And even that was recycled old stuff. But it was just the delivery of it that was new. You know what I mean? Everything else is a recycling of

blues music, jazz music, classical music. It's all recycled. The Beatles did everything. There's no trick that's been done that the Beatles probably didn't pull off already. With only eight tracks at their availability while cats today have 5,000 tracks how does that work when you say tracks I know what 8 tracks is in their day to have more

than 8 things on separate the quality of recording depends a lot of times on how much you can separate the individual instruments and deal with their balance and their you know you know the eqs of them and and getting each individual sounding sharp and having what we call a shelf which means all sounds are audible but they all occupy different spaces you know what i mean like each instrument is equal and feels the you feel the weight the way they should but they have different shelves so if you looked at it on the

hear them separately the things that when you were high all of a sudden that you thought were all You feel the weight the way they should, but they have different shelves. So if you looked at it on the graph, there would be eight separate columns. The things that when you were high, all of a sudden that you thought were all together that you can find the separation in, that's from multi-track recording and fucking being able to have those things in. Otherwise, you had to do everything. And the Beatles made records that had orchestrations in the middle of them. So they were bouncing seven tracks down to one track, putting all that. So they were mixing while they were doing other things. It's bananas when you think about what they pulled off making records with the technology

that was available to them compared to like now, it would almost be like, oh, that's easy stuff. Wow. Back then, it was like they had to invent ways to do what they were doing, literally every day. Wow. A lot of musicians had to do that with their pedals and effects. Jimi Hendrix always had a guy around and him probably toying with things like,

how can we make this pedal sound different? Because there was no mass marketed crybaby pedals and all that shit. People made their own shit basically wow what a crazy time it's crazy when you think about how much it radically changed like in the in the 60s when that came along from the 50s like what two different eras i mean have ever been separated by that much change the 50s to the 60s i mean that is a really strange time drugs human history fuck yeah drugs came into play man i'm I'm telling you, in a major way. Fuck yeah.

That's exactly what it is. Psychedelics and cocaine. LSD when it was legal. No one knew. Meanwhile, everybody was taking it. Everyone from Steve Jobs to scientists and professors. It changed my life. I wouldn't recommend it to somebody at my stage of life to do it.

But when I did it, it benefited me good trips bad trips all that shit like made my mind a stronger thing you know i also have homies that are one or the one of the you know there was a gang of us and there's also a couple of them that are still kind of fucked up you know a little off yeah oh what happened to him oh yeah you know back in the day he's the guy we always call him the guy that never came back that's the guy that never came back he stayed that's pink floyd had a song about that yeah the original guy yeah that's a scary thing but i always wonder so maybe he's just can't fucking swim get back over here bitch yeah okay you're mental swimming together i wonder if it's possible that he just gave up well some people aren't prepared i mean lsd i remember and if

there's any physicists out there or doctors that know different i vaguely remember we read about it we like looked it up and like that basically by the actual l25 drug that you take is gone by the time you're getting hallucinations it's like it triggers something in your mind like a gland or something in your in your mind that activates basically all the electrical outlets of your mind that just kind of, instead of being shut down, opens it all up. So basically you ain't hallucinating nothing that's not already in your brain. Really? That's acid? Basically.

Wow, I didn't know that. I could be wrong, but I took a lot of it when I was young. But it was like, you know, I was also told once, it's in comparison to supposedly, and again, if this is ignorance that I'm spouting, I heard it somewhere else and I'm repeating it. So I am ignorant for saying it, but I usually have a pretty good sense for what makes sense

and what can be true. You know what I mean? And I've heard of Swamis that cut the bottom of their tongues so they can swallow their tongues. And the reason supposedly for that is there's apparently some gland behind you like you know behind this area inside your passage where they can reach up with their tongue supposedly and touch it and it and it creates the same chemical effect so they cut their tongue it could be i apologize for the ignorance if it's ignorance.

That's so crazy. I've heard of the Swamis cutting their tongue. Why else would they cut it if not to swallow it? Let's look it up. We can't just let that go. We've got to go. See, I don't Google shit enough. Oh, my God.

My brain just takes in information and says, I'm going to say that for a podcast one day. That seems like something you would say when you're tripping to freak the other person out. Maybe. It could be. That's why I said, hey, this might be ignorance. I pre-qualified it, so nobody can give me no shit. That's creepy. If that's true, that's really creepy. I ain't going to court and swearing on that shit.

But I've heard this and read similar things. But who knows who wrote those things? You're absolutely right. I could have been completely high and been reading the guy next to me's scribblings. Oh, God. I found a terrible thing. There's a tongue-cutting ritual where women cut off their tongue. They cut off part of their tongue to honor a politician.

That's awesome. What I understand is the part of your tongue that keeps it attached, that little string underneath your tongue, is what they cut. This woman actually had surgery to cut off a piece of her tongue so she couldn't talk. Awesome. Wow. Was there a good reason? There's no good reason.

She'd have to be crazy as fuck. Yeah. It's like that episode of The Twilight Zone where the guy bets him he can't talk for a year or something. And then he comes in and he's like, I have to renege on the bad man. And the guy cut his tongue out. Oh. Oh, wow. This is the...

I shouldn't even be reading this. This woman was trying to get a job that pays $45 a month. And she was trying to cut her tongue. Oh, Jesus Christ. The fuck is wrong with me? I can't even find anything about Swami. You know Swami swallowing her tongue? Maybe, Jesus Christ. The fuck is wrong with me? I can't find anything about swamis. You know swamis swallowing their tongues? Maybe I hallucinated that whole thing, man.

Yeah, these are all dudes cutting their tongue off because it sucks. No, man. That's all I've seen. Tongue swallowing? Cut his tongue out. This guy cut his tongue out. How about tongue swallowing?

Tongue swallowing. Let's Google that one. Tongue swallowing butthole. I found that one. Oh, is that really something that came up? He adds butthole to everything. Oh, okay. Nowadays, you put a couple words in there and a whole list of shit comes up.

It's like, is this what you were looking for? It's like some crazy things happen. Swami magic. Okay, so now a Swami is attached to a tongue swallowing. Well, tongue glass eating razor blades, let's see. Because I should know if this is true or not. Oh, they use something. Tongue cutting is similar to what you see in the Amazing Jonathan do.

He uses a, no, this is different. This is like a stunt that people do. Why do they call it swami? I don't know. There's an association there. I'm guaranteeing it. And it's not a radical feminist one.

Cut your tongue. Swallow it. This ass is hungry for tongues. What? Should I Google that? Yeah, I'm not finding anything there. But there is a gland in the middle of your brain called the pineal gland,

but I don't think you can reach it with your tongue. That is the gland that supposedly is the third eye. That's what they talk about. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the gland I'm referring to. So some of my shit, I'm telling you. Keep looking. Keep looking. Because I'm telling you there's going to be something that I don't make things up

unless they're really good. Maybe I spelled Swami wrong. How do you spell Swami? Swami. Let's say Swami Third Eye Tongue. If that's not a band, it should be. Third Eye Tongue, Swami. Yeah.

Swami Tongue. Swami. Have you ever thought about doing anything other than music? If you see Mark McGrath hosting some celebrity show with a suit on, Swami tongue. Swami. Have you ever thought about doing anything other than music? Like if you see like Mark McGrath hosting some celebrity show with a suit on, does that make you go, what the? I wouldn't do that. No, but I mean like I know Mark.

I've known him a long time, man. But it makes total sense for a dude like him. Like his personality is kind of built for those. He likes to be a host or something like that. Even the way he performs in a band, it kind of caters to that kind of entertainment. You know what I mean? It's like very... He wants to entertain. Well, when you see like Justin Timberlake doing movies and you see a lot of rappers have done

movies, do you ever think about doing any acting or any other kind of stuff? I did that a long time ago. Did you? Yeah. It's not my thing. I think if you're good at it, do it. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, God knows we wouldn't have... You know, Mark Wahlberg's a pretty good actor, man.

You know what I mean? Yeah, he's a very good actor. You know what I mean? So we wouldn't have known that by his rap career, though. Right. You know what I mean? So go do what makes you feel good, man. Tupac was an amazing actor.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just always wanted to know if you would ever have. Personally, I'm in my own. I would like to, you know, the older I get, I think about, you know, maybe some youngsters and produce some younger acts or something. Yeah, that would be a great thing. But that's, you know, still music, you know. Yeah, right.

Stick with what you love, right? That doesn't mean bombard me with demos either, please. Oh, do you get a lot of that? No, I don't. People hand you things? I don't even, you know, I mean, I try to give things respectful looks if something about it intrigues me. But if you just start spamming me with shit, I just block you. The worst thing ever is when people want you to read their scripts.

Like, bitch, do you know how long that takes to read a script? It's a fucking, there's 110 pages of this, bitch. You want me to read this whole thing? That's like asking a random. Give me the lowdown. If the lowdown, you know. I'm not a script reader. What am I doing here?

What the fuck, man? Do you want to later swim past the breakers and watch the world die with me and my haircut? That's where you're at right now, right? You are. What was that band? I don't know. Was it EverQuest? No.

What the fuck is that band? Santa Monica? Oh, Everclear? Everclear it EverQuest? No. What the fuck is that band? Santa Monica? Oh, Everclear? Everclear. Everclear. You do. You look like the Everclear guy. Sweet out, bastard.

But that dude is like you if you had AIDS. Hey, did you get annoyed with that? That guy having a similar name at the time? Because it was kind of weird that there was all these Ever things. Yeah, you know. Did you ever think you should threaten that guy? Well, Ever things. Yeah, you know. You should threaten that guy. Well, Everclear is a very famous liquor. Threaten a rape on him.

It's a very famous liquor. It's weird that they would pick Everclear as their name. There's another one, Evergreen. Oh, really? Yeah. I got a call one day. Speaking of Neil Young, we were talking about him earlier. I got a call one day.

My buddy was like, yo, man, you're playing at the Forum, man, with Neil Young? I was like, what? I am? I was like, I'm at home, dog. I'm not playing at the forum i don't know what the hell you're talking about i just was on my laptop and i google it and it's some band called evergreen i'm like this is my friend calling me by the way i'm like can you fucking read man but that was kind of like yo they hadn't been i mean i've been around 20 some odd

years man come on now yeah that's weird though it's all right because it is a different name you can't really i stole it from a fucking boxing glove man come on you know true right the name was eric rocks everlasting and then uh you know that was like my iraqi was my original like kind of rap name and i just kind of shortened it one day it was like everlast fuck it it's amazing how much and back then not knowing copyright laws or anything like that, I was like, I already got a fucking logo. I really kind of thought that. I was like 17. I was like, yeah, I already got a fucking logo.

I'll just steal that logo. I didn't really think about it. Was there anybody else trying to be Everlast? No. Seems like a good name. Seems like a name like that, somebody else might want to swipe. There's like a DJ that calls himself Everlast want to swipe there's like a dj that calls himself everlast which really i find funny really yeah yeah wait why do i feel like i met this dude

i don't know but it's kind of it's kind of a jerk off move that's the one that would probably piss me off like evergreen nah everclear nah i feel like dj everlast get the fuck off my nutsack man get the fuck off my nutsack man yeah that's that's fucked up yeah i met this dude i'm pretty sure i met him and like meet him again give him a little smack give him a little smack like hey hey hey what if you met a dude and he's like yo man i'm i'm i'm uh uh fro rogan man i'm a comedian dude gj everlast music he's on myspace man tight that's he's on MySpace, man. Tight. He's on MySpace. He's on MySpace. Wow, dude. I haven't even looked at MySpace in like six years.

Isn't it weird? MySpace is still there, though. I think I still have one, though. But my management is the only people who even go near it, probably. But how strange. If you really stop and think about the fact that it's still there. And nobody goes there anymore. Like, what did they do to fuck it up so bad?

And they kind of set it all off. Yeah, they set it all off. They made Dane Cook. If it wasn't for MySpace, literally, there was an article, I'll never forget it, it was in People Magazine. They were responsible for Teela Tequila. Oh yeah, they jumped her fuck off. Thank God.

She's here for us now, right? She had to provide us entertainment. Be the first female juggalo or whatever. Yeah, it's a, it's a, MySpace was the shit at one point in time for clubs, like, to want to promote. Like, we had a gig. You'd go on MySpace. That's how you'd promote your gig. Good luck now, bitch.

Joey Diaz stopped using it even. When Joey Diaz stops using MySpace, it's over. Because that's how he was writing his blogs. He was writing them all on MySpace. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I have not literally even looked at it. I haven't even thought to look at it. I wonder what... It's an ancient thing to me.

It is, but it's so amazing that it happened so fast. It was within a couple years. It was giant. Everybody was using it. And it was like, Facebook's better. Fuck this. And they just all left. Look, my old myspace

it's still there hey look there you are wow that's hilarious dude what's funny is my picture was like i had the same avatar for the longest time and then when i left my space i i just took myself out of the picture like i used to be standing in front of this painting right here oh and then i just cut it out yeah left. You left the painting there. Brian's on here, man. Oh, Jenna Jameson. Yeah, it was a strange thing, MySpace. Out of nowhere, takes off, everybody's on it,

and then it goes away. And then Facebook, then Twitter. The thing about, the crazy part is, like, fucking, if you remember, like, Facebook really wasn't that big, man. No. Nothing. Nothing. What happened that changes these things?

Like, crazy world events change these things. At least this is my perception of it, you know, which is you already heard my Swami story, so I could be way up, fuck off here. But, like, if I remember correctly, not too many people were messing with Facebook until that Virginia Tech shooting. Really? And then, like, they started the news. It was like, the guy has a Facebook page. Not too many people were messing with Facebook until that Virginia Tech shooting. And then, like, they started the news. It was like, the guy has a Facebook page.

And then it's like, all of America. I mean, that's when Facebook was around. People were messing with it. But I'm talking about it didn't go nuts until after that event. Cut to Alex Jones going, well, what happened was Facebook engineered the shooting. They got him. It was a Manhattan Project type event. It was top, top secret, and they brought him out to the desert.

I'm not selling you that. I'm just selling you that when you hear Facebook 4,000 times on every 24-hour news network, you get curious about it, and people started looking, and probably wanted to see the fucking Disturbed Fuckers page. People want to see that kind of shit. Then Twitter was on the bubble. I'm not saying these things weren't around. I'm talking about when did they crack and go fucking global.

Twitter was this fucking Arab Spring. I heard Friendster's offices was in Tower 7. Like the office of Friendster was in Tower 7 when it went down. Really? No. Dude. Yeah, man. Friendster.

I remember finding dudes in the news that killed somebody. That one got by before I even knew about that kind of shit. Friendster was old when I first heard of it. It's like CompuServe. Remember that? Yeah. You remember that? Prodigy. Yeah, same here. It's like CompuServe. Remember that? Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. Prodigy.

Yeah, Prodigy. Did you ever have an AngelFire website? No, no. But one of my homies went and he came over to my studio and had to grab something out of his email or something and he fired up America AOL. You got mail. I was like, I heard that. That's exactly what I heard.

You got mail. I was like, man, that sounded just like that. You've got mail. I was like, you're still on America online. That's crazy, man. I mean, but, you know, says the guy with an Earthlink address. Earthlink. Earthlink.net. I wonder who was the guy that did the voice for you've got mail.

It's probably not even real human. It was probably cool to date that dude and have sex with that dude during the time of the AOL boom. He probably had some fun things to say in bed. Do you think he was doing that? He was just doing that voice everywhere? That was his shit? I'm going to fuck you in the ass. He was like Max Headroom.

Yeah. Remember Max Headroom? Had a little career doing that for a while. Dude, they made a movie off his face. You've got mail. You've got mail. Do you remember when the dude would do something like kill somebody or something and you could go to his MySpace page?

Exactly my point about that's what that Virginia Tech shit did for fuck's sake. It was all college and all they talked about I remember on the news was the guy wrote his whole thing on his Facebook page and the logo was up. That's when it went big, man. I'm telling you.

One if you're right. Makes sense. It certainly helped. It certainly made people. But I think Facebook offered what MySpace was already offering, just they did it way better. They made it way less clunky. It's just like they said on the thing, too. It's way more exclusive. Yeah, well, there's no glitter tags. At the time, you know, only 5,000.

It had gotten out of control on MySpace tour. It was like, I have 400,000 friends. Like, not even famous people. You know what I mean? Like, regular people going out there on these trolls for more friends and yeah it's like i don't care i don't even look at my facebook really you know i'll be honest i started using my facebook my fan page i post my shows on it and you know i look at it but i don't i don't get into a lot of exchanges with people like dana's philosophy like i was talking he's like man you want to be our big on the twitter just go at it with some of these fuckers i'm like man i ain't got the

energy for that shit somebody writes some dumb shit to me it's just like easy let me go to your page right here yeah oh block you bye yeah i don't need that in my life man i write blocked and retweet them i retweet them and write blocked it's gotta be funny for me to retweet it if it's just like stupidity i'm not gonna retweet it if it's funny and it's got to be funny for me to retweet it. If it's just stupidity, I'm not going to retweet it. If it's funny and it's bad, I don't care if it's bad about me. If it's funny, I'll go, okay, here you go. I will do it because I don't think people realize how stupid what they're writing sounds.

Yeah, but now they're just going to do it. Until other people respond to it. I bet you're wrong. I bet you're wrong. I bet what happens is first of all, I block them after I retweet them. And then second of all, when you get the negativity back thrown at you by all these people who think you're an asshole for saying something stupid, then you realize what it's like. And you're like, what the fuck am I doing causing problems in my life for no reason?

See, I did that to the Sony people. And I felt bad because some people were like, why isn't his record online, dickbags? Yeah, bitch. Hey, bitch. Hey, you fuckers. It's like, whoa, whoa whoa whoa guys i'm just trying to get the record up yeah you gotta give them very specific instructions on how to attack you can't just let them go loked out i did no i kind of called them douchebags and i was like

call these assholes and tell these douchebags to put my record ah well no it's my fault yeah you started it man yeah so They're industry people, man. If you're in the music industry, in my opinion, and this goes for anybody working for me that falls under this category, it's the same description. If you're in the music industry and you don't make music, produce music, record music, or somehow put your hands on music, record music, or somehow put your hands on music,

you are a leech and a parasite of cat proportions. Has it always been like that, though? It's set up. The game is set up. The game is set up. And not only are you a parasite but you're the only pair if you're in the music business and you don't make music you mean then you're living off another an organism so i'm not being even a dick when i call you a parasite but i'm saying what makes you the worst kind of parasite is you're the only

parasite that's figured out how to eat before the host organism. You dig? Yeah, I see what you're saying. Like, they all are getting their monies. The complete disproportionate amount of wealth. And then by the time it gets to the person who generated all the monies, in most cases, it's nothing. You know, that's why you see some of these sad stories of cats that should have it all and don't. Because by the time it got to them, nobody helped them, first of all.

If you're young and somebody hands you a ton of money, I'm surprised. I'm alive, the amount of money they handed me when I was young. How does it work without collusion, that they keep the rates so high amongst people like that? I don't know. It's just because the only excuse you get is is is that's how it's always been done now i don't buy in the people i i'm you know i'm telling you i've been doing it long enough where i do it the way i want to do it but what were the options when you first started there was no other options you started before the internet what was it what was it like when

we also used to sell records back sell your own records no no i'm just saying in general you moved a lot of units before the internet you know i mean if you had any kind of you know if even if it was just so he's playing cat videos over there so there was more more money period yeah well i mean it's just like you know you had to if you wanted some music you had to buy it and bootlegging was like you know a guy on the block buys the record and two of his friends gets to cassette tape it from him you know i mean right right now it's like a guy on the block buys the record and two of his friends gets to cassette tape it from him. You know what I mean? Right, right. Now it's like a guy on the block buys the download and five thousand goes on some site and 5,000 people get a copy of it. You know what I mean?

That's so it's, you know, well, even distribution is moving to a digital model. So it's almost like you don't need that anymore with things like iTunes. I still love a record in my hands though. You know, I like to have a CD in my hands and unfold it and look at it. And that's just me. That's the generation I come from. Oh yeah. Listen, I remember when we went to in my hands, though. I like to have a CD in my hands and unfold it and look at it. And that's just me. That's the generation I come from. Oh, yeah.

Listen, I remember when we went to CDs. I missed albums. Albums. I used to love album artwork. The artwork was huge. Yeah, that was a big part of the record. There used to be a Grammy category. And I don't think it is anymore. It used to be Best Album Cover.

Yeah, yeah. And they don't even do that anymore. Yeah, I remember Cheech and Chong's Big Bamboo. You would open it up. It was like a giant rolling paper. It was fucking tremendous. B-Real actually rolled a joint comparable to the size of that paper. I believe it.

I think he still got the roach, which is like this long and like that fat, like in a frame thing in his house. That's hilarious. Yeah, Big Bamboo was a classic. And the album cover itself was part of the whole experience. What do you do about that? They didn't have music videos, though. Or rarely.

You rarely saw anything visual put to the music. The music was like a completely audio experience. Internet killed the video star. Did it, though? Because it kind of expanded things, too, man. It made an opportunity to like this. One of the coolest things about this gig is being able to have guys like you, and we have this band, Honey Honey, came in and played.

It's the coolest thing ever to be, like, have a three-person concert. Yeah. You know? It's fun. I like, that's, you know, I was like, I got to bring the guitar. I know it's. So this is the internet, though. This is the same thing that killed it. This is the same thing that spread it. Hey, man, I make a lot of my bread off of, you know, was like i gotta bring the guitar i know so this is the internet though this is the same thing that yeah this is the same thing man i make a lot of my bread off you know my you know

my fans are loyal cats they buy my records they buy my downloads i mean i keep a steady stream you know i'm i'm i'm not a hater but at the same time you realize it's just changing it's just changing things are getting weird like it's just no but it's not that it's changing. Here's the thing. It's like before the internet, I guarantee you there's no record I would have ever made that wouldn't have moved at least a couple hundred thousand units. All right? Now on this last record, I think I've moved about 50,000. You know what I mean? And that's completely independent.

That's good money. I'm not tripping. But what I'm saying is you're not going to tell me that those same other 150,000, 200,000 people ain't checking for me. They're getting the record. I figure for every one you sell, four or five people are just taking it. That's the problem. You're selling it on your own, like out of your own websites?

No. I have a distributor with EMI Records, but I own my own masters. I own my entire label. I mean, they just help me distribute my record. So when you say they help you distribute it, that means they help you get it someplace. The physical record. I mean, otherwise, like iTunes and all that, you don't even need a distributor anymore. You just go to them.

It's available through them. So when you say 50,000, you mean 50,000 people bought an actual CD? Albums, yeah. Actual album. to them it's available through them so when you say 50 000 you mean 50 000 people bought an actual cd albums yeah actual album and then there's i mean but then a lot of people there's a i mean i can't even i don't even know the numbers on like people that just come in by individual or two or three songs off the record you know that's so that confuses numbers too that's kind of cool though you could do that i'm not complaining at all i don't want anybody to get it twisted i live a real good life you know like i said i'd like to meet that hedge fund super fan that wants to help me be super rich. You say that. He's going to take you to a place where he's been cloning babies to show you what's up.

You're going to have to keep secrets. I'm cool with that, man. You cool with that? Maybe. Depends on what they do to the babies once they clone them, I guess. Yeah. You know, if they're just cloning babies, I mean, they're going to good homes. I mean, hey.

Everlast is in a mansion in the East Hamptons. Where the fuck did you get this place, man? I can't tell you. That's a little investment that got involved. Yeah, a little investment going. There's something crazy about the people that made billions off the internet in the beginning. You know, when the internet dot-com boom was taken taken off people sold websites for crazy amounts of money and mark

kibben yeah he's a billionaire from that yeah yeah he's managed to stick around though so he's smart dude he's a very nice guy too very normal guy right down to earth guy remember he was um he was involved i think in some fight organization i think maybe he was involved, I think, in some fight organization. I think maybe he was involved in Affliction in some way, too. And he had HDNet. Yeah. They changed the name of that recently. Yeah, it's AXS TV.

They're the best. Is it still his, though? It's partly his, I think. And Brian Seacrest is involved, too, somehow. I recorded a show for that channel. For HDNet? Like a live show, yeah. They've been showing it a lot, too. Those are great. Yeah. I don't know why they had to change the name i thought hd net was a great name

and they're big on the fights man they have the mma weekly and all that so with boss i love that show man yeah that's what i was gonna say they're the best as far as like one channel that covers all sorts of different fighting sports like they have k1 telling you about the smallest shows in little towns too you're like really they're doing mma oh. They'll be telling you about the smallest shows in little towns, too. You'll be like, really? They're doing Amy May? Oh, yeah. They'll put on. They go to all these different small organizations that very few people have ever heard of. And they'll put on those fights.

And they'll put on all the best kickboxing, too. It's real hard to get good kickboxing in America. It's only that AXS TV. Nobody else even shows it. You can't see the the high level Muay Thai and high level kickboxing like K1 style. It's only them.

They're the only ones providing it. Yeah, they always show the dream shows and all that. That is the one thing when I always tell people if there's one untapped market in the sports entertainment world, it's high level kickboxing.

Somebody has never capitalized on that. While boxers are making fucking millions of dollars, MMA are making fucking millions of dollars, MMA fighters are making millions of dollars, these kickboxers are still languishing. And these motherfuckers are so exciting. Like, real high-level Muay Thai kickboxing, it has not been exposed to the masses.

People don't realize how goddamn exciting it is. Dudes kicking each other in the fucking legs and the head and flying elbows and knees and shit like that is a crazy exciting sport like muay thai is really exciting it just hasn't been exposed to america correctly it's a a huge money maker just waiting to happen of ufc proportions if somebody some rich dude some investment type character had the balls to put together some really high level kickboxing and start showing that shit in America, they would make mad loot.

Because one of the things that everybody loves about the UFC is that anything can happen. But the other thing they love is knockouts. People fucking love knockouts. They love submissions. But when it comes to like what they would choose, they choose to rather see somebody get kicked in the face. It's gladiators. Yeah, it's something crazy about it. When a dude just, like the Donald Cerrone fight

last weekend, Donald Cerrone head kicks Gallard, and then as he's wobbling, comes in with the fucking death blow, and KOs him on the way down. I mean, that's what people want to see. I mean, tremendous. Tremendous. That's not available in kickboxing, unfortunately. You can't hit a dude

in the face while he's going down. You know, the referee will separate you. You get a standing eight count, which is actually kind of the worst way to fight. It's actually, like, more dangerous to be allowed to recover. You know, it's better for the referee to come over and save you. You have to do punches you one or two more times than you to sort of get your wits back and then get properly K the fuck owed. You know, but in K-1 kickboxing and in Muay Thai, that's all

the stand-up fighting. It's all kicking and punching. It's all what's probably the most important shit or the most exciting shit to watch. No one's ever really capitalized on it. It's weird. You don't give a fuck. I do. I love kickboxing, man. I'm still feeling the effects from earlier, dog.

I've been stuck on stupid for a while, dog. I was actually sitting here reflecting on the whole Swami thing, and I'm like, man, I'm just going to get it today over this Swami thing. I know it. I know people are going to be like, what kind of retarded shit is that? It's cutting their tongue and massaging their brain. What, man? I hope somebody proves me right is all.

Otherwise, I'm like, man, that was a good hallucination it might be deep in like page five of google you know it's just a good hallucination of an explanation though man i was thinking it's a good lyric a good hallucination of an explanation yeah maybe you uh could just combine them in your head in some strange way i'm sure something like that happens if it's not coming up on google we all know how reliable the internet is. Everything's on there. Part of the beauty of podcasting is that people get to see you talk a little shit and not be correct. It's not edited.

Unlike you, I don't have a war room laptop in front of me. Yeah, this is a manly laptop. Look at that. Yo, man, that's a goddamn shit. Yo, man, I thought she was going to... I thought it was a briefcase. It runs on coal. The thing has a nuclear reactor in the center of it.

Yeah, we started using these because they support MMA fighters. It runs on the blood of the innocent. It's slowly tapping into your soul. It's been staring at me for a while, dude. It's starting to creep me out. It's dope, isn't it? The eyeballs are starting to... It's a ladybug. It's us staring at me for a while, dude. It's starting to creep me out. It's dope, isn't it? The eyeballs are starting to creep me out. It's a ladybug.

It's us in the future is what it is, man. That's what the alien is. We know that's the future. That's inevitable. That's what we're going to look like. Really? If we used to look like monkeys and this is what we look like now,

that's next. No doubt about it. The atmosphere is going to erode so we're going to have big black eyes like permanent sunglasses. That's what I'm thinking. Permanent sunglasses because we're going to deal with a hostile environment you're not going to really talk anymore so you

have a giant head with a little tiny slit of a mouth you're probably going to get all your nutrients through some fucking some cream you rub on you or something it's probably not even going to have to eat anymore they're going to invent orgasm pills so your dick's going to shrink away to nothing so you'd be like that man in the suit in this skinny thing you don't need your muscles because you're controlling the universe with your brain. You're speaking telekinetically, so you don't have a language anymore outside of actual information.

My job's obsolete then. No. I'm going to mentally telepathically sing to you? Well, that's why I think the idea of simulation theory is actually plausible. That simulation theory is like actually plausible and that simulation theory is like real legit scientists have they've offered up the possibility that if someday someone created an artificial reality someday someone created something that was uh controlled it was something

generated by a computer but it was undetectable from reality. It seemed real. Is it possible that they could get to that level someday? And the reality is, yes. Yes, it is possible. If the advent of technology and technological innovation keeps moving in the same direction, everything gets better. So if you look from now to 1,000 years from now or 1,000 years ago, you look at what we're capable of now and extrapolate what a thousand years from now we're going to be capable. Artificial reality is a given. It's going to be easy.

So the idea is, are we already there? Are we already in that artificial reality? Is it possible? The matrix. Is it possible that these aliens, this is what we really look like, dog, but this is whack. This is a stupid way to live.

Nobody's getting their dick sucked. No one's car makes some cool noises. Nobody can play some badass music. Everything is evolved and telekinetic and everything is without sin. But there's no whiskey. There's no shit talking. No one farts on you. Just don't unplug me. I'm cool. Maybe this is why our life is so crazy. Maybe this is why, you know, our life is so crazy.

Maybe this is why life is so chaotic and ridiculous. And it would seem like the type of being with the brain to build something like New York City would have everything else completely wrapped up, too. of innovation, thinking, computation, and construction, and just an amazing amount of stick-to-itiveness to build something like a New York City. You would think an organism that can do that, well, they got everything wired. This whole thing is wired. They're from the future. They've figured out the whole thing. Look what they can do. They can do impossible technical tasks. Look what they can do. They can do impossible technical tasks. Surely, socially, they would have it all together.

Surely, they wouldn't be this crazy mix of hypocritical bullshit and fucking propaganda on television and nonsense. There's no way they would be that stupid. How would they make satellites and be that fucking stupid? There's no way. So the idea is that we are from an evolved time, but it's boring. So we've come here where shit's fucking stupid there's no way so the idea is that we are from an evolved time but it's boring so we've come here where shit's fucking crazy and that's what makes it fun you could have me high tripping on the way home like damn well you know i've gotten shit about that's one of those you know the whole universe could be under your fingernail bro it's one pubic hair the real

problem is it's starting to be substantiated with science. When they're doing these string theories guys and these quantum physicist guys, when they're doing technical computations, when they're trying to figure out the nature of the actual matter itself, one of the things they're finding is they're finding that there's mathematical programs to it all. There's things in this life follow mathematical computations they follow like an algorithm they follow the Fibonacci sequence is like the way a person's face looks the way a tree grows branches the way a sunflower seed it's all like mathematics inescapable mathematics and then they're finding

more code in in in quantum theory they're finding more code in quantum theory. They're finding the smaller they're getting as far as the smaller things they're looking at in the universe. They're finding mathematical algorithms that you could clearly track, that they've measured from the 1940s. They know what they are. They know this actual program.

So it's not outside the realm of possibility that this might be an awesome simulation that might be why it's so much fun maybe is this stuff that happens and you you like get really deep into in the isolation tank yeah that's the problem the isolation tank is only about what is real because nothing's real once you get in there. Once you get in there, have you done it? I've experimented similarly but not full of like nighttime just in my pool with my ears plugged and my eyes covered. That's all groovy.

That's all groovy and everything but you need a real one. You need one. Everybody needs one. It's one of the biggest injustices that people that are interested in thinking and creating don't have one of these things because if you're in the simulated reality you're probably already laying in some sort of liquid so you're bringing yourself back almost to your essence if you're doing that or nothing is real and you're down your consciousness has been downloaded into some sort of a gigantic computer hmm that. That one's, there's got to be some kind of organic matter.

You think so? Yeah. Well, what if technology is organic? What if we just, we think of it as inorganic because we create it, because we create a phone. But what if you look at it, what if it's an actual life form that's independent of us, but we have this weird symbiotic relationship with it where we are the method that it's evolving through. And it's going from being a fucking

toaster to being... Dude, do you have a Star Trek shirt on or something? That's sweet. You're going to start talking about the Borg or something in a minute. Well, if you really stop and think about it, we're connected to electricity. We talked about that earlier. We are electricity. We deal with the power. But we panic if the power goes out. I panic

if I don't have my phone. I panic if my car doesn't work. You're like, shit! We are electricity. We deal with the power. But we would panic if the power goes out. I panic if I don't have my phone. I panic if my car doesn't work. You're like, shit. We are already connected to certain aspects of technology. I leave the house without my phone. I feel pretty fucking naked. I would rather walk out of the house with no shirt on than I would with no phone. I feel like less of a freak. Wow.

My phone is more important to me than clothes. I need to be able to talk to people. That's strange. It's not strange. If I'm out there in the wild, what if my fucking car breaks down? What am I have to walk to a tow truck? Where's the tow truck?

In what direction? Do I know? Do I walk around naked and ask people? Come on, man. I need that fucking phone. Actually in that scenario, I wouldn't have been naked.

Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. It's been a good time for a new song, man. We have, by the way, five minutes. Okay. You guys got time limits, huh? Well, at three hours, we turn into a pumpkin. Yeah.

It's bad for iTunes. Something happens with the audio. I want more for you. Okay. Dude, this one's called Long Time. She never gave a warning, he woke up in the morning, laying there next to his bride. He got a little crazy when she had a little baby, cause it filled him with a fatherly pride. Just a couple years later when the love started fading, he hurt so bad, nearly died. It's been a long time since I was faithful.

It's been a long time Since I was grateful It's been a long time Since I could look you in the eye It's been a long time Since I was grateful She's a mother with a daughter Sitting by the water

Cause it's better for her baby to breathe She got a man that's in prison Cause it didn't want to listen That's sitting waiting on a reprieve She loves her little baby But she get a little crazy Cause it's harder than she ever conceived She left her on her own

But she's doing it alone Cause she loves him like you wouldn't believe It's been a long time since I was faithful It's been a long time since I was grateful It's been a long time since I could look you in the eye It's been a long time since I was grateful. He's a friend and a lover, husband and a brother. He's always been a prodigal son. A friend and a lover, husband and a brother.

He's always been a prodigal son. Gets a lot of drama when he goes to see his mama. Cause he curses like a son of a gun. He's begging to his lady, let him see his baby. Swear she's the only one. He's got a heart full of sorrow, living for tomorrow. And sorry for the damage he's done. It's been a long time since I was faithful. It's been a long time since I was grateful. It's been a long time since I was grateful It's been a long time since I was faithful

It's been a long time since I was grateful It's been a long time since I could look you in the eye It's been a long time Since I was grateful Grateful Dude, thank you very much, man. Anytime, man. Thank you for coming here. Anytime you want to come back,

anytime you feel like playing some songs, please just holler at me. That's easy. That's what I did. I'm ready. Let's go. Yeah, it was beautiful, man. It was beautiful.

Thank you very much, man. Very inspirational, fun. Hey, when I first came on this motherfucker, man, I had just quit my Twitter, or I had just started, restarted after quitting Twitter, man. You know what I mean? And there's like damn near 30,000 people on it now. So, you know, that's all love from coming, a lot of it coming from your direction, man. Well, listen, man, You know what I mean? And there's like damn near 30,000 people on it now. So, you know, that's all love from coming. A lot of it coming from your direction, man. Well, listen, man.

That's beautiful. And every time you're on it, man, we appreciate the fuck out of it. We get a million positive tweets. I'm looking at it right now. My Twitter's blowing up. People loved it. They had a great fucking time, as always. You know, OG Everlast, come shake me out.

Oh, yo, I got a bone to pick with you on your fans' behalf. Uh-oh. Post some motherfucking pictures on Instagram, dog. hate it there's one and it's of me i don't understand that instagram everybody's like really into pictures outside of like twitter picture i don't get it i'll try to use it i'll try to what it is you just set it up so it it you when you when you when you put it on instagram you hit one button and it'll it'll go right to your twitter okay i'll hook it up. They're mad at you, man. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, everybody. And plus, man, I got like 9,000 people on there. I got like 300 pictures. You got one, and there's like 30,000 people. All right, I'll put some more. I promise. I promise. All right, folks, I did solid.

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