The Joe Rogan Experience - #255 - Duncan Trussell

Episode Date: August 16, 2012

Joe sits down with Duncan Trussell.

Tucker Trussell, the fuck is going down? You know, I just, speaking of- It's going down? What's going down? What's going on? What's going on? I saw a, really, speaking of battle ropes, I saw this very disturbing video today. Have you seen the thing of the old dudes with broadswords chopping the heads off pigs?

Whoa, no way. It's fucking weird, dude, because they're like- Oh my god. They're not like warriors. They're just older guys at maybe a knife convention or something i'm not sure what it is holy where they have a broad sword and they're just lopping off the heads of pigs oh my god like hanging upside down just lopping them off and the swords it really does demonstrate that is how bloody battles used to

be because they just it's like they just slide right through the neck of that pig just slide through like a knife through butter and the sound is so gross this flick flick and these weird old dudes just swinging these swords it's strange man jesus christ so glad that we got past that phase of human history. Thank God someone invented a gun. Yeah. Isn't that funny? Hey, if I gotta choose, I'll take a gun, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I'll take a gun. I'm sure there's far less

violence today than there ever was when they were swinging swords around. I'm sure it's like no comparison. Well, yeah. I mean, you could just think how easy it was if you were in a bad mood to kill somebody back then. There's no DNA. There's no dna finger there's no fingerprints if you're just wandering through a town you just see a particularly plump young child drag that thing into the woods please isn't it weird there's no amber alert that was not that

long ago in human history you know oh no man it's the weirdest thing of all humanity is the humanity that preys upon its young it's like they're you know their youth was ruined and so now they want to ruin youths it's almost always the same story so it's a scary frightening aspect of humanity you're talking about people that want to you know abduct kids oh yeah he demons yeah but it's it's almost always comes from something being done horrible to them well yeah man that's the uh opposite of this thing called the disciplic succession which is this idea that people get super super smart from time to time by meditating or drugs or something happens to them and then those people, transmit that to their closest friends, which gets transmitted down until it, like, ends up in the present moment. It's called the disciplic succession.

You know how, like, you get around. It's, like, one thing to hear from someone happy. Right. But when you get around someone who's really advanced and really happy, you walk away with this kind of, like, extra thing. It, like, gets something into you, you know? Like, they give you something from you around them so that the idea is that certain times people have like a massive burst of that you know like the monkey that came out of the tree or the monkey that first used a certain tool certain

people have that exact same kind of like blast and the people in the close proximity to them they get it and it transforms them and then they give it to the next person it goes through time the simple succession in the same way there's an opposite of that there's like a an anti uh enlightenment anti-happiness just a foul poison that started way way way back when and gets transmitted from one person to the next to the next and this endless chain of that ends up with like people doing monstrous things it's quite curious it's almost like a race between those two it's weird how pliable the human consciousness is you know it's

weird how the human consciousness depending upon how your rays can be thrust in so many different directions you know it's so weird like we are so not like in an easy thing to develop we're like we really we're super duper complicated we have all sorts of crazy emotions irrational ideas of the past irrational views of our own memory you know and we're all going through this whole weird thing together trying to feel our way through it well it's complete we're so irrational we're so it's such a strange animal well it sucks man i mean we've got these sedimentary layers of of of times in history where you you are just being ravaged by famine and disease. Yeah. It's fuck.

It was rough, man. I mean, think about that. Like, even now, people aren't safe. And you can call 911 and have cops come to your house within 30 minutes, you know, depending on where you're at. Sometimes faster. If something catches on fire, dial 911. Little red trucks come and put it out. They're just trucks with water inside of them if there's no water around.

Think about that. But not very long ago, man, something catches on fire. It's like, that shit's going down. You know, if somebody, if your friend hurts himself, you're not calling 911. You're going to wrap him in, like, dirty bandages and just hope for the best. It's like, so that means that that people there's a lot of fear embedded into us genetically from those times you know there's an angry little ape man living inside everybody you can see anytime you get mad you can yeah that's him howling out in the depths of your

being you know and the difference is some people still listen to that howling ape freak who's like terrified and screaming out of the universe and believe that that's them and they become that crazy primal scared being and some people have started to realize or completely realize that that's just one old sort of almost outdated appendage a psychic appendage stuck inside humans you don't have to listen to the screaming fucking ape every time something bad happens you can operate from another place, you know Yeah, you can and mean we're moving towards that as long as we can keep this whole society thing together Keep giving people food and purpose we can we can slowly but surely make these leaps into the next stage of consciousness Yes, we got a keep everybody fed We can slowly but surely make these leaps into the next stage of consciousness.

Yeah. We've got to keep everybody fed. You know, keep riots from breaking out. It's really hard to keep riots from breaking out when you're blatantly lying to people, you know. Yeah. That's the problem. This fucking Julian Assange thing really gives me the spooks, man. Because it's like... Well, explain to the folks who don't know what the fuck's going on what's happening so julian assange is this uh guy who created a website called

wiki leaks and uh he was kind of the face behind this uh website that people send secrets government secrets people sent him a shitload of files that showed a helicopter gunning down reporters among other fucked up things and um so he uh he got in a lot of trouble with the military industrial complex essentially he just pissed off the military industrial complex he um he uh ended up because something happened in sweden no one really knows exactly what it is but the UK is treating it like whatever he did in Sweden like he just went around fisting nuns and setting fucking buildings

on fire like they were doing everything to get him back to Sweden for what I think is a relatively small charge that's the party line I think it's called surprise sex surprise sex a very odd thing man yeah and also man I'm not to be a complete fucking conspiratorial weirdo, but a lot of people say that there's some basic things if you want to get somebody that you can do, and

one of them is you set them up with some kind of sex crime. You know what I mean? You can entrap somebody. I'm not saying he's... I don't know what happened, honestly. saying he's i don't know what happened honestly but you know in society now if you were running an empire and you had an enemy and a really public enemy it goes past the point where you can just assassinate them like in the good old days right like in the good old days if someone had some information you just fucking send in one of your assassins to come through their window and give

them a quick snip on the throat leave your fucking sigil or whatever your sign was, because sometimes you want people to know that your enemies die, and that was it. Now assassination is a little more complex. You know, you've got to, like, if someone gets in the public eye, they can't just suddenly hang themselves. You know, if suddenly a sign just dangling in the embassy there, if they came into a bathroom and Assange

is hanging by a fucking rope, wearing women's panties, right? Wearing women's panties with maybe some fucking kiddie porn scattered around. We don't know. He just freaked out in there from the stress and he tried to do autoerotic asphyxiation. Cut to CNN.

CNN, barely a peep about the Weebores scandal. Boom, pervert, pedophile, Assange found dangling in the embassy wearing women's underwear, pink with Mickey Mouse pictures on them. You know what I mean? It's like that's a way that they try to defame you and make you seem like you were not valid, that no one should have been listening to you in the first place. That's one way to assassinate somebody. And this Lebor scandal, what exactly is behind that they were adjusting the fucking interest rates they were like fucking with interest rates not not based on real reality but based on the urgings of the government from my complete low level understanding

of this shit but basically it somehow is just a one of the indications of the things that we hear all the time from some like really hardcore conspiracy theorists who are saying that the world economies are just being controlled by bankers who are shifting numbers to benefit themselves. And this is like, of course, the military industrial complex or war quite often is um benefiting someone in a massive way you know so it's just part of that idea that the way things are happening on the planet right now aren't based on some form of humanistic logic but are based on uh economic um the the economic drives a very very small amount of people who make a shitload of money when bad shit goes down. Whenever there's a fucking war, there are people who make so much fucking money, man. I mean, it's nice. You know, like the way I fucking was to book it, like get my own TV show.

Like if I was able to sell a show right that would be a big deal for me that'd be awesome that'd be an incredible moment in my life in that same way that i'm excited about that there's people who are like oh come on iran say one more anti-semitic thing come on if we just get one more sign that you want to attack israel we can get in. And if we get in there, they're going to need a lot of my new XP-49 double-edged fucking missiles, and I'm going to make a ton of money. You know, and those people have lobbyists that talk to senators and congressmen, and their point is the reason isn't for, the reason isn't because, it's like,

you know, I imagine it's like when you're fucking a whore, you know, the reason she's fucking you is for money. She's not fucking you cause she likes you. She's fucking you cause she wants money from you. In the same way, these, uh, these, uh, powerful, uh, uh, conglomerates are making moves that are based on their own economic gain. I, this isn't obvious. I don't mean to be so fucking obvious. Right. But you know, the idea was that, I mean. That we were supposed to be shield fucking obvious right but you know the idea was that i

mean that we were supposed to be shielded from that that was the idea yeah it wasn't supposed to be possible yeah when that became possible and and obvious and policy that's when the real problems began as far i mean as far as like my own personal awareness when i started seeing it it became much more blatant it seemed seemed like, later on in life. And this most recent Supreme Court ruling about it where they said that corporations can act as individuals. Which is insanity. You can just give as much money as they want to give. Like, you guys can work out a deal.

I'm going to be president. How much do you want to give to my campaign? How about a million bucks? How about I love you? All right, I love you too we're gonna work together all right give me some money bitch yeah it's quite sad it's a um it's a sad situation and now it's a strange situation it's a strange situation and it's a it's a situation that up until this point I mean it was pretty easy to hide this

shit yeah you could really control information yeah you could people couldn't just look in their phone and google anything yeah it's almost like everybody's waking up going wait what what what you know what the effect reminds me of joe i just bought a tv ah i'm an american i haven't had a tv in so long i went to um best buy and bought a god damn one of those nice how long did you try to be like Mr. Bohemian? I don't need a TV. It was, I don't know, since I've been in that fucking house, I don't know, nine months, ten months? Listen, dude, TV is awesome.

Anybody who tells you the TV's not awesome is an asshole. No, TV's awesome. No, listen, I didn't have a TV out of some hate for TV. I didn't have a TV because I understand my compulsion to plug that Xboxbox and pop in skyrim and just vanish from society for four years yeah that's my problem but the thing the thing about this new fucking tv is um the picture's too good really it's too clear it's like you watch the x-men and it's like seeing people who just walked out of a fucking West Hollywood aerobics class. They just look too real. It looks silly.

It's too real. Something about the picture is too good. Yeah, there's a different quality to it where it makes old movies look like shit. Yes, it's too good. It looks silly. You know what looked really bad, man? I saw Aliens 2 the other day. The movie still holds up.

It's still a great movie. But there's some background scenes where they had a painted spaceship. Yeah. And it was so bad. Because it's so obvious with HD. So in the same way, it's weird because it's like that technology is imitating, I think, what's happening to people's perception of things. Somehow, when a president starts doing the presidential talk or when you see what's happening to people's perception of things. Somehow, when a president starts doing the presidential talk,

or when you see what's happening in fucking the UK, where they're saying with Assange, no, no, no, no. Listen, we have a right to it. We have to enforce the deportation of Assange to Sweden. This has nothing to do with the thing where he leaked terabytes of information about the military industrial complex. Nothing to do with that. That's just a coincidence. We've got to get him out to Sweden because he did a surprise rape.

Surprise sex, not rape. Surprise sex. I guess it's kind of the same thing. Well, what happened was they had sex, and then he was in bed with her and then he had no condom can i stop you for a second supposedly i want to apologize to everyone that i just used the word rape dude i'm so sorry i said that you should never use that word i will never use it again that word's done i will never use that word i've taken that word and i have tied it to a

bed it's the new faggot rape is the new faggot i don't even my neuro my neurological system cannot process that word i'm sorry i don't even hear that word i don't hear any bad words i've got a new i've got an i've been taking a new fucking um no tropic it makes it so that i can't hear offensive words really can enjoy a comedy show because nothing ruins a comedy show more than when a comedian says something unethical or immoral oh i hate it i'm just trying to have a good fucking time yeah i don't want to be lectured i don't want you throwing your lefty beliefs my way oh my lefty beliefs no no i'm saying to the comedian what's our hypothetical comedian that we're just making up. Yeah, comedian, person, blogger, swamp toad, hell being.

We gotta sew the mouth shut. We gotta sew the sinner's mouth shut. We can't let him speak. We can't let him talk about the things that happen in the world we don't like what is so weird about people that they're so easy to program Like they can be programmed so many different ways And you look at like people in North Korea like all crying for real in the street when their dictator died I mean they were like for real legit crying the street and then look at people in America and see how much different we are Then you know the people in china than people in india it's so we're we're so adaptable and we're so

fucking variable we're so different it's it's such a we're the strangest fucking animal ever we are a strange we are a strange fucking creature man we went from background to foreground it's like all the it's it's like animals are so absorbed in the nature when you watch a fucking squirrel running around and you see how like in nature the thing is just part of the earth almost just the earth humans are like a few steps past that so it's like we came out of a picture we like came from the background into the foreground. This is the idea that they tried to metaphorically talk about in the story of the Garden of Eden, which is, you know, before they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they were unaware that they were naked.

It was like they're more animals. And then this represents, I think McKenna said, you know, this is the representation of the expansion of the neocortex. This is the beginning of human brain development is suddenly becoming aware of ourselves, of our bodies, of the fact that we have a fucking body. Because, you know, animals, they don't think about their buttholes. You know, like dogs aren't thinking about like what their balls look like when they're running they're not thinking about their their fucking hair if it's messed up that doesn't cross their mind a dog's never worried about its hair being messed up but humans like we fixate on that shit like we spend so much time thinking about how ashamed or ridiculously we proud we are of

our bodies it's a fucking hilarious how much time you really consider how much time you fixate on your body one way or the other oh yeah we're we're just into our bodies sure so yeah man that's this um that's one of the weird bizarre aspects of being human is you're aware you're aware of all the stuff you like you know you're aware of why you like you like you it's a puzzle to you you see a woman with a thin waist and and a big ass and big breasts and you're like you don't even know why there's like triggers are going off evolutions like that's the shape you're looking for yeah that's the shape you're looking for calves like calves from being accentuated by the high heels and little why

is that fucking weird how weird is it that every woman shaves her legs like you have to like that's not really what their legs look like especially girls with dark hair you know any anything like really uh what would be the word spicy you know any like greeks or something along those lines lines Italians a lot of those girls if they didn't shave their legs oh my god do you know what kind of craziness you'd be looking at well I want to see if you ever let your your whole pubic area grow before you trimmed it me yeah give a trim it yeah I trim it but there have been long long periods where I'm sure the thing is just and you look

at it what it's just ridiculous it's like all over the place it's just chaos chaos chaos it's it's yeah and but and then you imagine that yeah covering your entire body oh yeah and that's what we used to be just like a lot of people still bush you ever see was it George the animal steel is that was the name was it's a wrestler I think it was George the animal steel something the animal steel and he was he looked like a fucking gorilla he's the hairiest human being ever he was huge it is his big giant fucking you know superhuman muscles and hair covering his whole body Robin Williams this guy was more freaky Robin Williams is pretty fucking hairy yeah

but this guy's built like a gorilla too I mean it's like it's like it's real close I mean he was he was in one of those movies I feel like he was in a movie I'm not remembering it right well man the thing is I think he did I think he had a career in like horror movies or something we're very close to something that just that's no longer here anymore but people's minds are still some people are still functioning at that level and and then some people know that some people are still functioning at that level and understand how their nervous system works and are really good at tricking people you know because once you're like just like well if you still

identify with it howling screaming animal inside of you once you're like, just like, if you still identify with the howling, screaming animal inside of you. Yeah. You're really easy to manipulate. You know, it's not that hard to fucking trick a monkey into going for a banana. It's like, legendarily easy to get a monkey to go for a banana. I want you to come over here and just look at what George Steele looks like. So you see what kind of ridiculousness I'm talking about can you imagine it doesn't look real he's a huge dude covered in hair and he's like bent over looking at you like he's about to charge looks like

a stop-motion character from clash of the titans or something larry doesn't seem real that's weird yeah and he did some acting I think it was in like yeah he was in Ed Wood I believe with Johnny Depp yeah he's in a fucking crazy looking dude but he used to like eat the the corner like you they would have a turnbuckle he would grab it and bite it and start eating it and ripping it apart. He was fucking crazy. What a weird life that must have been, huh? Being a professional wrestler. Yeah, that's a really weird life.

That's one of the weirdest aspects of our culture ever. Professional wrestling? You mean, like, worldwide wrestling? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. World wrestling entertainment. I haven't watched world wrestling since The Great Kabuki, man. People still love it, dude. Oh, I know. It does really well.

It does really well. It's fucking crazy. What is it, man? It's like a form of fucking dance, basically. Isn't it like choreographed fights that you know are fake? Well, it's fucking hard to pull off, dude. Those guys get beat up. Those guys are always throwing each other down their heads and shit.

But it's not real fighting. It's like a form of gymnastics, tumbling. Sort of. It's a work. That's what it is. They do what we call hard work. They slap each other occasionally. They'll close line each other.

They really slam each other to the ground. And you can really get fucked up doing it. They all have back problems and shoulder problems and but the cool thing about it is not just the fact that they're fake fighting it's that there's a narrative a weird rudimentary narrative that runs through the fucking thing where everyone has rivalries yeah and and there's uh there's always a villainous guy who has generally supernatural undertones. Like maybe he's come from hell or something, right? There's always that thing.

Undertaker. Yeah, that thing. The Undertaker, yeah. These mysterious men who've emerged from the darkest parts of the world to slap each other's backs really hard. When I was in high school, it was Bob Backlund. He was the champion champion and the big one what that everybody wanted to see fight for the title was jimmy the super fly snooker oh yeah

yeah yeah and it was a big deal man and he would put up his three fingers like this and he would go i love you that was what he was telling everybody when he had his fingers up That was what he was telling everybody when he had his fingers up. I love you, and he'd fly through the air. He would fly through the air, dude, and land on guys. And what a beating his body must have taken doing that, man. He did some ridiculous shit. I remember when I was a kid, getting into some fairly serious arguments with people over whether or not wrestling was real.

Because you would be like, no, no, no, this is fucking real, dude. Do you think this is fake? You fucking think the Great Kabuki, like a guy could just blow steam out of his mouth and poison a man? He's real. You would get in these like deep... Oh, yeah, before they had to admit it was fake for like... Right, but you see that...

Tax purposes. You see it's still happening see this is the funny thing it's still fucking happening yeah only now when you tell somebody you know um our congress is bought by corporations and it's not really representing the people anymore and you can you can uh you uh you know that's um that's that's real it's pretty obvious by now you tell that to people and they'll be like no it's real it's real it's real. It's pretty obvious by now. You tell that to people and they'll be like, no, it's real. It's real. It's real. It's the realest thing there is. How could you say that's not real? These men, these fine men are the high seats of power. They're not getting bribed by corporations.

No, never. They have integrity. Yet again and again, time time and time again we see that these people have been supported by lobbyists to the point where i saw someone um uh put like on one of the i think one of the presidents or i don't remember which it was maybe i don't remember who it was maybe bayner the guy looks like howdy duty i can't remember who it was but put all their main corporate sponsors like a nascar outfit you know like they said like senators and congressmen should start having to wear i think robin williams had that in his special oh he did is that what he said i saw a picture of it on the internet but but the the the the it's the truth but there's still people who want who don't want to believe to believe that's the truth and this is the fucking problem man because it's not just politics it's religion you you there's people i just have you seen this fucking i it keeps popping

up on the internet but it's like this idea that evolution has had that the way some and or the creationists believe that the way some animals got from one continent to the next is from rafts of the forests uprooted by the great flood so like bears and rabbits and squirrels were just like floating across the ocean on logs like they people believe that stuff creationists believe that dude imagine that just logs covered in rabbits and puppies and eagles it's this craziest thing fucking ever but but there But people believe that right now. Well, there have been guys who have invested money to try to design and recreate the Ark.

How they think it could have worked. There's been dudes who have done that. Like, there's some rich dude. I think he's in Holland. And he's recreating an Ark based on qubits and whatever fucking crazy measurement they used back then. He's doing the Lord's work. How many fucking lunatics right now, how many crazy people right now in neighborhoods and trailer parks across America are in their backyard constructing an ark because they think God told them to build an ark i bet there's at least 400 people right now hammering in their

backyard on a fucking ark because they had a weird dream where god told them to build an ark there's definitely more than one i've definitely heard of more than one person talk about grandiose imagine you thinking you're really noah but that's like you know if you're cuckoo for cocoa puffs that's uh that's a that's an entertaining one you see and you think you're Noah oh my god I mean but dude imagine if like you're fucking brilliant speaking to me wait what hope what Joe it is I the Lord I'm going to flood the planet because I'm pissed that's why I always thought it's hilarious when you see like a fake seance or a seance it looks like obviously full of shit hold on I'm getting a signal he's. He's saying there's a hole where his heart used to be.

What does that mean? Does anyone know what that means? He's speaking to me. I just fucking saw on Trinity Broadcasting Network. Have you ever watched TBN? Yes. So I just saw on Trinity Broadcasting Network, this fucking televangelist say, Do you want that new house?

Do you want that new condo? That $2,000 isn't going to get you a condo or a new house. Plant that seed money in my ministry, and it will come back to you tenfold, a hundredfold. So this guy is on TBN compelling people who've been saving up their money to buy a house to send that money to his fucking ministry he's tricking dumbasses oh yeah into funneling money to him in the idea that they're gonna send two $2,000, because he says it, it's so terrible. What he does, he's like, he's aiming at illegal immigrants. One of the things he said is, you know, Juan, whoever, sent $2,000 to me.

His green card had already been denied. But he went to the mailbox and he got a letter underneath his bills. And he opened that letter. And it said he had been accepted his green card had been accepted so you're like trying to hit these like the most desperate humans who are like a combination desperate and dumb watching tv late at night and they just have a little bit of money left but maybe they're a little drunk they're like yeah this is it this is what i need need to do. This is what I fucking need to do. I'm giving money to the Ministry of Father Fuck face, and it's gonna come back It's crazy. Why don't they start doing that that's seeding? That's pretty recent

It used to be just a donation thing But then someone came up with a brilliant idea of saying that you're planting seeds And then you get it back. It wasn't just a donation anymore. It became like, you know what I mean? It wasn't like that for a while. For a while, it was just donations. But the problem is, man, with all this stuff, this is where religion gets confusing.

A lot of the metaphysical principles these people are throwing out there, they're real. If you put good energy out into the world it does come back to you it is true if you put if you put good things out in the world it's like throwing a fishing line out and there's a really good chance you're going to reel back something awesome that you didn't expect to get but it's like these sons of bitches they're like making it as though there's an actual spiritual economy in the universe where if you that there's some kind of new quantifiable bank account balance where if you send 2 000 you'll get 20 000 based on some specific crazy laws that's that's where it gets odd and that's where it's kind of fucked up because it is and it isn't

because the wounded antelopes have always been jacked by the water holes that's just the way it always been if you're so fucking dumb that you think that that guy's really gonna be able to do that with your money it's almost like you you have to exist as an example of folly you have to exist as a an example of like when anybody gets scammed by one of those nigerians yes one of them i watched this one thing they were talking about it was a dude who was really sad man the guy just didn't have any companionship he didn't didn't have a girlfriend really wanted a girlfriend and just spent all his retirement money sending it to this nigerian scammer went to europe to meet this chick twice twice twice he kind of broke down during the show he was brutal because

he his his daughter or someone had to tell him that the woman wasn't real Someone close to him was trying to explain to him that the woman wasn't real But he just wanted to believe he went to Europe twice to meet her do twice and like she said she couldn't find him Oh my god. I'm getting called back by my family, right? And this poor fucking guy bit it bit it hook line cigarette every we spoke to her He just kept sending money see it's really cool man because we keep going back to talking about believing in and the effect that it has on your life the immediate detrimental effect it has on your life to believe no matter what the thing is it always up your life whatever the it is if you believe

in something that's crap you end up making decisions based on crap. And so you've just summoned more and more negativity into your life from believing in bullshit. Now, where it gets fucking weird, man, and where there's a part of me that is always combating what the apparent violent and brutal, merciless aspect of nature with my own instinct to want everybody to be okay and and like those two things are really fucking confusing for me like because you look out into the world you know and you you see any on the nature channel just you know watch a fucking hyena taking a bath in

the carcass of a fucking elephant or watch fucking uh those those tigers in the russian circus who just attack those dudes or look at the fucking um uh in china the the monstrous way that they're you know slice the skin off of living dogs or you can go on and on with examples of this kind of brutal the slaughter houses everywhere you know the brutality of nature you know and and and and you can go into this nichian mind state where you're like you know yes that is that is as much a part of the universe as anything else and then there's another part of you that if you start thinking that way can become a bit uh a bit nihilistic where you start thinking oh, well, if there's wounded antelopes, then why help them? You know what I mean? But let them suffer for their own good. Let them come to

understand life through their own transgression so that they can grow on their own and become powerful by their own volition. And that's fucking cool, man. There's part of me that really loves that idea. And then there's another part that's like, yeah, but what if, you know, there's an actual concerted effort at work right now, a concerted effort by a kind of combination of many different conglomerates who have recognized the psychological makeup of most human beings

and have figured out very intelligent ways to intentionally manipulate those human beings to become consumeristic so that they can gain it From from these people's lack of education and understanding. I think very educated people are often consumeristic as well I think consumerism is a byproduct of work and doing a lot of work that you don't really want to do It makes it makes you want to buy things people enjoy that buying things when they work hard that's part of it but this is like from this i think we've talked about this before the century of the self about the uh what's called black psychology or the uh the um uh using psychology to manipulate people into buying

shit or giving the impression that they need something right so it's like but it's an art form that they've almost got it down to a science and it's a necessity if you're going to have a successful economy in a capitalist country you got to keep selling shit right you don't want to make something that's going to last forever but how do we regulate it do we do we do we just let it happen so that you can have preachers that you can can have those crazy guys on TV saying that if you send me money, I'll give you 10 times? Do we just let that happen? I mean, if you were inclined to decide,

if you had to cast your vote one way or another, how much do we limit? Well, dude, I'm like, yeah, right. I'm sorry, I just want to say, because if that guy's not legitimate, okay, what if something comes along that is legitimate? What if there's some sort of sustainable new environment that's being built and they want everybody to throw some money in and become a part of it and they offer you a tangible deal and it's based on the same sort of spiritual concepts?

You're going to automatically connect it with those other assholes. Well, no, I know this is the problem, man. I mean, this is like... So you can't stop it, you know what I'm saying? It's like you couldn't stop it because you would limit stopping it for a real place. Well, who's going to stop it, too? Yeah. Who's going to make the decisions?

Who's going to say, no, no, no, this is the right thing, and that's the wrong thing, and this is good, and that's bad? It's like, it's almost only an egomaniac would ever even consider the notion of trying to take charge, you know and so it is this you know we we end up in this curious predicament of trying to determine okay well then how much do we let happen for example what's happening in syria right now how much do we let happen how many more people get fucking bombed in this weird war between an oppressive regime and the people who are rising up and it is an oppressive regime the guy's been like the guy's been around too long the elections are fucked it's syria's

always been notoriously a kind of fucked up place it's like now there's a civil war happening so how much do we who's who takes the side of you know right who takes the side of uh asad that's his name right asad what who takes his side who's really going to stand up for that fucking guy you know what i mean and and and i'll tell you one person who has russia you know what i mean so russia's standing up for this guy now we're in a weird situation i don't know how much they're supporting but the that's where things get fucked up because it's like okay i guess we just back off and let a bunch of people get slaughtered because that's the way of the world. This is like, you know, the hardcore libertarians believe this.

I think Ron Paul's like, this isn't our business. Well, also his contention is that we've created a lot of business that we shouldn't have created. We've made things our business and things we've had blowback because of things that we've done that we shouldn't have been doing in the first place. The idea of policing the world. Yes, that's a problem. And we've definitely put our fucking dicks in a great many hornets nest but it's like the the the but if you look at it from like a perspective of just you you're in you're in your apartment right you're in your apartment and two uh doors away someone starts screaming bloody murder he's fucking killing me! He's killing me!

Call fucking 911! I'm bleeding! Oh, Jesus. What do you do? What do you do? Are you going to fucking call 911? Of course. You're going to try to help, too, maybe.

You're maybe going to go over there and see if you can fucking help this person, right? Right. So now, all of a sudden, let's spread the radius out. You know two buildings down that's happening to someone. Now let's spread it out more. know two buildings down that's happening to someone now let's spread it out more you know two miles away at a certain time someone's gonna get fucking hurt

how when do you stop helping yeah and right now it appears that when you stop helping is when it's outside the fucking uh boundaries of your country at that point you're like no no no it is the way of the world that people are slaughtered by mortars and guns and executions and dragged into secret prisons. It's the way of the world. And then it's a really weird fucking situation because it's like, well, it's also the way of the world to get people out of fucking secret prisons and to help people who are in trouble. You know, it's the story of our fucking, you know, our history, the goddamn, the French helped us, you know, it's the story of our fucking you know our history the goddamn the French helped us you know it's like sometimes people need help when do you help it's a real fucking question it's a real it's a one of the big questions

facing us right now it's like when do you do something you know like if in the UK if they fucking storm into the equity the embassy into the Ecuadorian embassy, do you say what is it, Ecuador? Yeah. If they storm into that fucking thing, breaking the sovereignty of Ecuador, which is essentially invading Ecuador if you go into a fucking... Yeah. So in that case, if they just fucking start throwing out the whole game... Yeah. Where they're like, you know, know we're just gonna do what we want

and as long as it suits us we'll make it seem like there's laws in place here right but when it comes down to it we're gonna fucking do what we want isn't that kind of crazy that you got it like a whole building that's a different country and that building has sovereignty and this guy can go there and say can I get asylum and they're like yes good cool i'm staying here and now he has to like wait hold up and wait he can imagine the stress of being in asylum can you imagine the stress of being julian assange it must be unbearable i mean the guy he's crazy but he has giant balls giant giant giant balls dude that guy's gonna be remembered

as one of the great heroes, man. That son of a bitch. That poor fucking bastard. Nobody... That guy made a real goddamn sacrifice because, like, I don't care how much money he was making from WikiLeaks.

I don't care if he was making a fuckload of money for WikiLeaks, man. He knew when he leaked those documents. Do you realize, like, when you get that much fucking information that shows that some fucked up shit is going on, the moral responsibility, the ethical responsibility you have at that moment, because you know that the moment you let this shit out, you're fucked.

Forget it. Forget it. Game over. You've made the decision like, all right, I'm going to fucking throw myself on the fire in this incarnation just because it feels better than sitting back and festering with the knowledge that there's fucking innocent people getting gunned down for no goddamn reason and that's being kept away from the people who are funding the fucking bullets blowing up their heads you're like god damn it i gotta fucking do it and you do it and you're a badass and then you end up fucking holed up in the god damn embassy and you know that even if you do get out of that embassy even if

50,000 guy fox mask wearing anonymous vigilantes descend on that embassy all wearing the same outfit swarm the fucking embassy and give you the outfit to wear so that you just mix in with all of them and vanish into the fucking into the darkness and then end up in fucking ecuador you know at one point there's gonna be a moment when you wake up and there's a guy sitting next to your bed. And he's like, hey, man, I'm sorry, but I got to fucking kill your ass. Or maybe he doesn't say anything. Or maybe they poison you.

Or maybe there's a fucking moment when you walk down the street and you feel a strange prick in the bottom of your leg. And the next thing you know, you get a weird sickness, a form of fucking swine flu or some odd bacterial infection you just fucking die so tell me more about what's going on in in dallas it's a west nile outbreak apparently nine people died now when did this happen i don't know when the outbreak happened and i kind of like keep my eyes peeled for any kind of like end of the world style plague reports but it seemed to pop out of nowhere just eight people in dallas came down with west nile virus and how really recently yeah

really recent i dusted their i think they're dusting today jesus christ just spraying out that fucking poison you know because they don't want the west nile virus to spread yeah texas gets fucking funky hot man and. And apparently Aubrey said that they've had a record amount of days. They're cruising in on the current record, which is like some crazy number, like 50-something days of over 100 degrees. Hottest fucking summer in history, man. Yeah, it's weird, man. It's weird. We were talking about lakes drying up and

rivers drying up and shit like that yeah that's a that's a disturbing thought man that that the climate can shift like really radically yeah and it always has always has always has and our idea is that we're going to be able to stay in this one spot that we so choose to set up shop in that might be silly that might be a silly thing to do yeah it's like as a species we do the same same thing people do as an individual like as a species we make this silly uh just like we have this crazy idea that everything's gonna stay the same and yeah the planet's gonna always be hospitable to our form of life and uh we've just lived with that in the same way that for you know individuals go around like

they're gonna live forever yeah they go around treating people like not returning phone calls you know they go around like being like complete as though there's going to be some point if i love what you say they're treating people like not returning phone calls i'm pissed at my brother all the horrible you could have said someone does, you're like, yeah, people are fucking dog shit, man. I love, I had these, my brother is like, I love him very much. He's like one of my best friends on the fucking planet,

but he's found, like, somebody that he really loves, and it's really, yeah. So he's like absorbed into this beautiful thing that i'm very happy for him for but it's like that classic thing when one of your best friends gets a girlfriend you're like oh fuck i understand i've done it god knows i've done it i've been the king of that shit man it's horrible but the point is um people treat their lives and i I try to do this less now, sometimes people get caught up in the minutia and they end up discounting their existence

as though there's going to be some point 10 years from now. A lot of people think, okay, I'm just going to fucking party through my 20s. And then your 20s pass and then the 30s, and you're like, ah, I got some juice in me still. I'm going to just fucking do it through my 20s and then your 20s pass and then the 30s i got stills got some juice in me still i'm gonna just fucking do it through my 30s and then your 30s pass and now you're feeling a little

tired and fucked up a little bit and your 40s come in and you're like into the 40s i'm gonna settle down and i'm gonna really become a man and then you just keel over and die and that's it you never fucking did you know you never actualize yourself you never jumped into the um you never jumped into the fucking uh fray you know what i mean yeah so in the same way as a species it's like we're we're in that situation where we we think yeah well it'll be fine man there's infinite fucking resources come on and it's you know now we're kind of like in that part where you look in there you flip the fucking hotel mirror a little bit and take a look at that pink moon sprouting in your in the back of your fucking head what the fuck there's a patch of pink there in the same way there's like nice big

thick black oily patches of death sprouting up all over the planet from people logging and dumping chemicals in there and like no it'll come around that little radioactive patch called chernobyl it'll come around it'll be fine in a couple of thousand years you know what i mean it's like and not even no fukushima will be fine it'll be fine it'll be fine that's not gonna that won't affect the rest of the planet. It's so crazy. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. So this is where we have this fucking problem, man. Because we've got a group of people who believe that rabbits floated on rafts from one continent to the next.

We've got a group of people who really fucking believe in some very archaic, primitive bullshit. And we're really letting them run with it, man. We're really letting them run with it man we're really letting them run with not only that you're you're supposed to if you're polite to allow them whatever craziness they believe without ever arguing it or ever discussing it yeah or ever disagreeing with it yeah and it's fine it's like it's fine okay man fucking believe that shit i don't care i really don't care and and if it makes you happy i really do mean god God bless you. And I'm happy you're happy. That's fucking awesome. But if you're making political decisions based on these belief systems, well, we got a fucking problem, man.

We got a big fucking problem because you're making political decisions based on an imaginary voice in your fucking head that thinks that a floating man is going to come down from space. And this is a problem. This is a problem because the decisions need to be made on a more realistic human level, which is like, hey, there's a lot of people on this fucking planet. We need to start working together and stop blowing each other up, as crazy an idea as that may be. It's pretty much time to put down the Bible. Let's put down the fucking Quran. Let's put down the fucking Quran.

Let's put down the old crusty old fucking scrolls and just treat it like we're living in a neighborhood. And let's see if we can fucking, let's see if we can just stop blowing each other up for a second. Iran, you don't need nuclear missiles. Iran, let's not make nuclear missiles. And Israel, let's not fucking attack Iran right now. None of the people want to No, none of the people want

to fight. None of the people want war. We don't want to die. I don't want to die. I don't want anybody to get fucking blown up. None of us want that, man. Well, maybe like, maybe there's 3,000 of us who want that. Maybe there's 3,000 people who really are into it and that's it. And there's a lot more of us than there are of them. You so at some point something has to happen where a shift takes place where people start uh uh prioritizing what's actually happening over what people dressed in funny outfits are telling us an invisible man is saying we should do you know it's like so obvious for example if like you're in the woods and you get to choose between two guys there There's a guy wearing camouflage. He's got a fucking Rambo knife and some fucking awesome tattoos.

And then there's a guy who comes out dressed in a black fucking cloak holding a book. And he's like, this is a magic book. This is my magic forest book. And this book will give you all the answers you need in this giant, massive, deadly, dangerous, snake-filled, bear-ridden forest, who are you going to pick? The guy with the magic book or the fucking, the guy? Camo guy. You have to go with the camo guy.

You go with the camo fucking guy. You go with the fucking camo guy. Maybe you take down the guy in the funny robe and steal his robe to make a hammock. But you don't fucking, you don't fucking, you don't follow the guy with the funny book. Well, unless your brain doesn't work that good, man. That's a problem. I think that one of the things that religion can do for people that really helps is it gives you an operating system. And I think intelligent people use it that way.

And I think some really dumb people use it that way. And if they didn't have it, they wouldn't know what to do. And they might actually be a problem. i think it gives people an operating system and although i don't agree with it i think it's like i've described it as like religion being like scaffolding that it's like scaffolding for expanding consciousness it allows you to have like some real like solid shit that you don't have to think or worry about and then concentrate on being positive helping your brother being you know being a generous person it's a vehicle yeah a vehicle for and if you know you need stories or you know scripture or whatever it is that you need to get you into that frame of mind well that puts you on that good scaffolding the shit's encoded man

it's a fractal there's deep information in all the scriptures i certainly um i when i the problem they're all so different and their rules are so different you know that's true man i know some of them are just not into being happy right well no no we'll yeah we'll see what it is is it seems to be a problem of literalism you know it's like people are uh reading things and taking them literally, and so not looking into the deeper levels of things. This is happening in every single aspect of our society, it seems that people are becoming more and more literal, their understanding of symbolism, parody, that kind of stuff becomes, seems to be a little

muddied right now. For example, the most recent thing that happened is, as you know, I know you know, Daniel Tosh and the fucking rape fiasco, for example. Yeah. Now, Daniel Tosh, and I know this has been chewed gum on this show. Yeah, this is the third podcast in a row. All comedians should be talking about it. These bastards want to steal our words.

So when you deal with things on the surface level and you don't look deeper, well, then you get into stupid wrestling, semantic wrestling matches with comedians over the most ridiculous ideas ever instead of just like, yeah, he was like throwing something out there. He's not a rapist. He doesn't want to rape. He threw something out there it's no problem you know the deep just a little just three inches under the surface of that fucking thing and it's a yawn it's a yawn mostly just like whatever but like um on the surface it's fucking so important so very fucking

serious so in the same way people take these very powerful scriptures, they interpret them on the surface level, and they start arguing about the fucking surface level. So now, when people are talking about the fucking Garden of Eden, they're arguing over like, who was the bad guy? Was it Eve or was it Adam?

Well, it was Eve's fault because she was that darn old snake first. People really think that. They're like, yeah, it's the Eve's fault because she listed that darn old snake first. People really think that. They're like, yeah, it's the woman's fault. That's why she got cursed with a painful childbirth. And there's some of that in there, but it's like, come on, fuckheads. Come on. So then when you look at like when you get into the fucking Kabbalah

and you look at the Kabbalistic tree of life and you see something that's taking the fucking idea of the tree of life in the garden of eden and deepening it to like the really much deeper part of the fucking fractal where it's an expression of the expansion of nothingness into somethingness in the universe and it's a cool metaphysical grid that shows a thing becoming aware of itself or a thing waking up and then becoming aware of itself creating a thing waking up and then becoming aware of itself, creating a triangle which flips over because it reflects itself into the universe. Whoa. And these are all, it's deep. It's heavy shit.

Dude. It's fucking awesome. This is Kabbalah? That's the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. And is this the stuff that you're not supposed to even read until you hit like 36 or some shit like that? Yeah, that's what they say. I mean, I don't know. I don't go to the Kabbalah Center or anything.

I've just been reading Alistair Crowley. And he's got like some fucking... Whoa, a snake sound to confirm your allegiance with Satan. Duncan, you're a grown man. You just hissed. Oh, gee. Let me tell you, man. Shout of the devil.

I hissed all the fucking... I've hissed at the sun. I found myself hissing from time to time. Just for the fuck of it? Hangover. Does it feel good? Hangover. Oh, hangover. You feel like a vampire? Yeah, you. Just for the fuck of it? Hangover. Does it feel good? Hangover. Oh, hangover. You feel like a vampire? Yeah.

That's what vampires look like, right? They look like they're hungover. Like when the sun comes out. They do. They look fucking... What a weird idea is that sometimes you can have vampires that follow all the vampire rules until real recently. People got so fucking arrogant. They were like, well, no, no, no. Now vampires are actually your friend.

And they only eat deer. And they don't burn when it's sunny out. They just glisten. They don't want to be glistening. They sparkle, Joe. They don't glisten. They sparkle, Joe. Vampires all of a sudden became cool.

And you could fuck them. Oh, yeah, dude. Well, that's Anne Rice's fault, right? Anne Rice started it. Is it her fault? Oh, my God. The fucking interview with the vampire well no i don't think so man because even before interview with the vampire dracula was very

sexual the dracula was uh hypnotic yeah he was very sexual in like a lot of the older movies you know there was a few of them the gary oldman what came first gary oldman or and rice probably in rice right i don't know for the gary oldman dracula i think and rice i'm almost positive actually well no the old dracula i think the the brom stoker dracula didn't oh that was a long he had some tramps in the castle didn't he have like there was a room you went into and there were all these female vampires really hot it's our call yeah and like they were seductive and they would like you know they were powerful dracula that's the good part yeah everyone's hating on dracula it's got these

hot bitches they want to suck blood they're ready to throw it out that's so he just gets to bone him he never boned him in front of anybody though it's just i guess once you start drinking people's blood that's like way cooler than boning chicks just Just completely give up on bone I mean in the world of vampires, it's that is boning the best Dracula though of all time unquestionably. It was Gary Oldman Did you see that one? Bram Stoker So it's so good that Keanu Reeves can't fuck it up I got it like I don't know cuz I haven't seen it but I'll tell you my favorite fucking vampire by the way I do like Keanu Reeves. It's just a cheap joke.

I like Keanu Reeves. It's a cheap joke. I miss the joke. I love you, Keanu. Oh, God, I love you. You didn't even pay attention to my joke. You're just waiting to say what you got to say. No, I was listening, Joe.

I'll tell you why. Dracula, whatever. No, no, no. Here's where my mind started wandering is you said the greatest vampire, and then I thought, no, no, no. The greatest vampire of all time, the spookiest vampire of all time is fucking Nosferatu. Oh, the original. Yeah, you're right.

Fuck that thing. Well, also, that was like really original. I mean, and think about that guy did that. It was like, wow, it was a silent movie. No, man, that thing was a scary son of a bitch whatever that was like that's what a vampire is like the long fingers yeah kind of gobbling and fucking just a creepy thing yeah pops out of the shadows that thing suck dude keep talking i love it sorry am i am i yapping too much no i love it oh you too really yeah man nosferatu yeah man that guy's fucking scary. But, you know, the Salem's Lot vampires are pretty fucking spooky, too.

1922, brother. 1922. And I'm looking at the images of it right now. Oh, my God. It's fucking incredible. It was legitimately frightening. Legitimately frightening. And it was in the fucking early 1900s. Incredible. And they find fucking coffins still.

They found coffins out there where people have hammered steaks into the... Oh, yeah. Well, there's probably, I'm sure, people that were fucking assholes and they just wanted to make sure they really never came back. But this motherfucker was creepy.

You're right, man. You know, he might be the scariest one ever. Especially when you consider it was 90 fucking years ago. Yeah, man. That was fucking... Well, I mean, that was based fucking years ago. Yeah, man. That was fucking spit Well, I mean I was based on the real thing whatever was wandering around out in the fucking woods of Germany. That's what was out there What a crazy people remember

It was it was based on a real man. Oh my god. Look at this fucking photo of a dude It's a really good goddamn Image like they're really fucking scary looking yeah that's a scary vampire 1922 because if you go watch like king kong king kong's not really scary and that's from like the 30s nope not scary at all not scary king kong cannot fuck with nosferatu no not i mean i guess if i had to pick who I wanted to run from, it's going to be a fucking Nosferatu, though. But how weird is it that they just hijacked the whole vampire thing? Vampires used to be the worst shit that could ever happen to you.

And now he's a hunky guy. Well, I'll tell you why they fucking did that shit, brother. There's money in it. Yeah, they got to sell it to teenagers. It's women, man. A lot of women. People that want romance. The thing about the Twilight books, so I've been told by Mrs. Rogan, man a lot of women what people didn't want that want romance but the the thing

about the Twilight books so I've been told by mrs. Rogan is that the the very romantic unrealistically romantic because he's a vampire and it's like he's got all the superpower and everything like that it's like he like is giving it all up just to be with her you know what i mean yeah and it's this weird sort of like he he needs her so much and women love that it's just a natural sort of a thing for them so like when you see like women that would be waiting in line to go to those movies it just hits a chord that we don't we don't have we don't know that chord but the chick who wrote that knows that chord so she nailed it you're talking

about the chord of love i'm talking about the chord of affection and uh admiration like i think all women want to be you know they want to be worshipped you know they think that that's like the most romantic thing for a guy who would do anything for you so he would do anything for that girl in in in those books he would do anything for her i mean he he didn't even want to bite her he wanted to you know he wanted to protect her from everybody he was in love with her meanwhile he was like a thousand years old and she's in high school like it's really creepy if you stop and think about it he's a thousand years old or whatever the he is that's hilarious she's in high school man you're

crazy what kind of conversations are you having with her? Jesus Christ. I mean, it'd be hard enough if you were 30. If you were 30 and you're dating a girl in high school, you'd be like, I gotta kill myself. I can't take it. I can't talk to her. She's fucking...

All she wants to talk about is Instagram. He's just a thousand-year-old perv. He's a fucking creeper. He's a total creeper She could be his great great It's not like he just was frozen for all those years Like Captain America No this asshole's been alive the whole time

And pretended he's in high school It might be one of the dumbest ideas ever It's not fair He's got magical powers He can fly He's flying a fucking high school kid through the trees Jesus Christ Did they fuck? Yes eventually Yeah later in the year Spoiler Spoiler powers he can fly he's flying a fucking high school kid through the trees jesus christ did

they fuck yes eventually yeah later in spoiler spoiler yes allegedly how about that i don't know has it already happened might have already happened i only saw like two of them i think there's been three i think he put it in her asshole i don't think vampires allow to do that i think it's a sin even for vampires. I think even vampires. Hi, Betty. No, no, no. Female vampires will go cut the shit. Just stop it.

They don't even shit anymore, so it probably dries up nice. You don't shit when you're eating blood. You probably barely, you don't have to urinate. No, dude. You probably get the exact amount you need. You don't know't have to urinate you probably get the exact amount you need you don't know that i would imagine you would get the exact amount you need no man a vampire's asshole is swollen and broken a scene where you walk down into a new york city subway and you saw some crazy looking vampire dude just shitting blood just blood squirting out of his ass chunky cottage cheese blood that's what a vampire looks like

in a tunnel a subway tunnel just shitting blood looking at you and thinking about sucking your blood next it's weird that they're like that's that's as far as they go like vampires suck your blood that's the worst thing they do but there's never been like a supernatural creature that won't that like mouth fucks you you know what i mean some we talked about that before did we really as ridiculous as it is i think we actually did talk about this before it must be on my fucking mind there's no spooky fucking bat or some creepy fucking rapes people that was mouth raping dudes i don't use that word, but a fucking horrifying, horrifying being. It doesn't have to be a vampire.

It could just be some bug, some insect or something that came out of the earth, and that's how it does it. It just fucking lives off of people gagging. It absorbs the energy of people gagging. It gets powerful. Yeah, the twitching of your body when you're trying to throw up. Yeah, it's a gag pyre. Your pipe is clogged by a fat cock.

You can't even throw up. You're trying to throw up, and he's just holding the back of your head with his scaly paw. Lashes down. That's what they came to do. They just came to get head. They have really tough dicks. You really cannot even pierce the skin. You can bite it as hard as you want it doesn't matter when aliens face fuck you they just it just goes in you accept it and it just fucks your throat and you try to

throw up but it can't get past the fat alien cock that's stretching your insides out pumping oxygen and by the way it's keeping you alive keeping you alive i think while you suck its cock isn't this the alien it changes your whole it blows your lungs out and actually eats them and uh converts it to a type of glue that keeps the cock attached to your body to keep you alive because now you no longer have lungs dude you get all your oxygen through his cock oh my god could you imagine that'd be the work and some people would say you know what I don't care I love aliens anyway they're still awesome they're teaching us listen it for him might be really awesome maybe he loves the fact that he's getting the oxygen through that cock. You stay alive, your body withers away.

You can't really move your arms. You're flailing. You're like impaled. You just look like a skeleton with a fucking dildo in its mouth. And every year, it just goes deeper in your body. The dick keeps growing. Eventually, it turns into you. You just turn into like a cactus dick thing.

You're like a shish kebab, dick kebab. Every year the dick slowly grows inside your body and starts cracking open organs and pushing ribs to the side, popping them and snapping them as it eventually goes through your body. But it does it so slowly that you never actually die, especially since the dick is providing with oxygen. But then when it gets to the head to the end the dick pops out of your and you deflate like a balloon and that sound is not that sound is known as thumping like it's like the sound of a man's final thump there's no worse sound it's like a

i mean that's not any weirder than a lot of that's real it's not any weirder than a lot of shit that's real it's not any weirder than those aquatic worms that gestate inside of grasshoppers and committing get them to commit suicide so they can be born that's nuts enough no man this is this i know it's not that fucking weird it's not weird at all right but it's like we don't the closest to horror movie of course it's weird but it's the weirdest thing but it's not any more weird than, like, cordyceps mushrooms that grow inside ants' heads and then explode and spray the air and infect all these other ants to become zombie ants.

Turns them into fucking goddamn banelings. God bless you, StarCraft II. Artoises, I love you. It turns them into bombs, right? It turns them into fucking bombs. It's like a fungal bomb. It's a fungal bomb. Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah, dude, fucking, the nature is insane, man. And like, sometimes I think about that notion of the fungal consciousness infector, the thing that like, you know, the, I know we, no, this is chewed gum, because I know we've talked about it. Toxoplasmosis, for example. Yeah, I had to describe that today to Everlast. I had to explain to him about cats. But, dude, if you take this to the next level, this is where we get into the metaphysical realm that a lot of people believe that you can get fucking possessed by a spirit. And this is not just fucking Christians.

This is like in almost every religion is this notion that a Thing can get into you and start fucking controlling you and it's like man if it's if there's fuck you know Maybe there's disembodied beings that really can like get inside you you know maybe right maybe just certain ideas Is it maybe he's like certain ideas i think um what's his name steiner someone's just telling me he believed the ideas were alive right and so uh what if there's certain ideas that someone could implant into your head that's the exact same thing as being possessed you know what i mean so you get this fucking idea and it just grows inside of you much like our legendary alien, it grows inside of you and turns you into a fucking different person.

There are certain people that are so susceptible to ideas and words that they can get them in their head and obsess on them to the point of almost like madness. Yes. I had a friend who had a nervous breakdown while he was hosting a show where uh there was a uh a black gentleman was the actor in the show a very famous guy and as he's um he's warming up the crowd brody steven style he gets this thought in his head that he can't get out and the thought is don't say nigger don't say nigger whatever you do don't say and that he would never say it He's not a racist by any stretch of the imagination. It was just madness Yeah, so we had a complete nervous breakdown while he was doing stand-up While he was warming up on some Hollywood soundstage, and he just had a nervous breakdown

He just he could not think of not saying that word So it would just completely fucking freaked him out to the point where he froze and he couldn't get any words out and people were concerned about him they were looking at him like is he okay like he just stopped in mid-sentence and everyone's listening to him he's got a microphone he just walked the fuck up with and I was like wow right what is that like possessed by an idea the idea possessed him and took over his body and there's other versions of this idea you know whatever the fucking idea is that gets in someone's head and makes them think that a solution to a problem is to wrap explosives around their body and go

wandering into a fucking cafe that person's got a bad idea that's a bad idea inside their head that's a bad thing living inside their head yeah it's a bad idea and it's like there's a lot of fucking people on the planet who've got some bad ideas in their fucking heads man yeah you know but you know they're just i suppose whether they're living or not it's just a device to like help understand the spread of the thing it spreads more like a virus ideas spread more like a virus than they do anything else right they fucking take over a person they get into its subjective dna they transform its thought patterns and then that being begins to infect those around it with the similar ideas and and then that spreads the fucking thought disease out through through the world you know right and that that's like going on right fucking now right goddamn

like going on right fucking now right goddamn chick-fil-a i'm gonna go around a chick-fil-a and eat some fucking chicken sandwiches to show my love for jesus yeah right you know and and like that's a you know that's the a flower growing from the tree of an idea that's been planted in the minds of many people um you know the fundamentalists and it's like fuck man what if it is a living thing what if they're actually possessed by a living force that is not that great it's just like that fungal thing sending the ants up the tree that's interesting that's an interesting way of looking at it that these ideas are actually living things yeah i mean it might be who knows i mean it's it is very strange when you think about the direction that our our society goes in and then it does seem to be led to and fro by like really insane shit upon occasion

insane shit sane sane sane shit and you're like wait a minute what are you doing because she did what she danced what what this is your this is your belief you know you're gonna line a woman up in the middle of the street and throw rocks at her because someone caught her dating a member of the wrong Muslim tribe? Yes. Oh, my goodness. It gets weird, man. Really scary weird.

Well, it gets fucking weird because, I mean, god damn, the first fucking... When the first monkey decided to come down out of the tree and wander out and start fucking hunting, you know, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that the other fucking monkeys that decided to stay in the fucking tree and in this situation I'm not saying one group is a monkey and one groups not I'm saying we're all fucking monkeys man but the ones that decided to stay up in the goddamn tree didn't have nuclear weapons you know that's about the nuclear sub that was sneaking around off the coast of Mexico? Sure did.

It was right down near San Diego. Russian, right? Russian. Having a little fun out there. Russian nuclear sub got right up next to us. Just to let you know, bitch. Holla. I could sneak up on you armed with warheads.

Sure, easy. It was a real legitimate nuclear submarine. Check it out. What the fuck, man? Whoops. That wasn't a message. Oh, my dear. I guess I... And they were there for a while. It was a real legitimate nuclear submarine. Check it out. What the fuck, man? Whoops, that wasn't a message. Oh, my dear. And they were there for a while. We didn't know they were there.

I guess my GPS was off. I ended up off the coast of fucking San Diego. Most apologies, America. Most apologies. Our on-star malfunction. Malfunction GPS. Yeah, how crazy is that? It was a a warship the other superpower that wants to get bigger and better well see he's run by criminals here's where we come to the fucking you know the

the the thing that mckenna kept talking about he's like look we don't have time to teach people to meditate anymore people are possessed by this't have time to teach people to meditate anymore. People are possessed by this fucking idea. We can teach people to meditate, but first they need to get super high on a psychedelic. You know what I mean? There's this imperative to transform those fucking crazy thought structures that are floating around in people's heads um because they've got fucking nuclear weapons thanks friend you can't just climb out of the goddamn tree now you know if you climb out of the fucking tree people are going to say you're a goddamn heretic you know they're you're a goddamn anti-american heretic listen to me say there's no fucking jesus christ and the goddamn rabbits

got across the fucking ocean in some way that didn't involve floating on logs you're obsessed with this rabbit in the ocean thing. Well, they didn't say rabbits, but I just pictured that. They just said animals. I don't know the spread of rabbits throughout the planet. Floating around on logs. Oh, yeah, but some of those fucking... Well, you know what else is apparently everywhere on the planet?

Sasquatch. Yeah, well... Yeah, you fucking laughed, dude. But I'm going Sasquatch. You're getting known as a Sasquatch believer. You know that's happening to you. I'm steady squatching.

Look, man. Have you ever watched the show? Finding Bigfoot? No, I just got a TV. I had Bobo from Finding Bigfoot on the podcast. It was awesome. He gave me a cast. There's a cast over there.

I'll show it to you. A foot. A giant foot hat. Does he believe it? Oh believe it oh fuck yeah he believes it he said he's seen it he said he's seen it man you know what's really creepy though really northern california that whole area it's kind of like ape canyon ape river monkey canyon it's like all these like weird fucking names that involve primates but it's not a place where there's any apes. It's really strange. There's a lot of sightings in one area. A lot of sightings for the last couple hundred years in this really densely wooded area.

Doesn't mean that they're not bears and people aren't on mushrooms. It's totally possible that it also could have been just an idea that one person had and they ran with it and it fucking carried on as almost a tradition okay not to take this idea too far but fucking mckenna talked about the idea that the ufo is some kind of projection of the mystere of the mystery of novelty of the something within humans or something in fucking hyperspace i think that was young yeah carl young carl young maybe mckinnon is quoting young yeah it's um aliens and ufos and archetypes i forget the word i forget the book but he wrote a whole book on that concept that the uh the ufo was almost like a uh a ghost of our imagination so maybe this that's probably a terrible way of describing it that's pretty cool maybe this it is a ghost of

our imagination it's a kind of specter that rises up out of the deepest parts of ourself or our potential and manifests as like this is what we could be or this is like have you ever seen a real ufo footage or a real photo that you were like yes i'm i'm i have seen pictures but every single picture is always fucked up they had a new sask picture, and all they got is his back. Crystal clear, in focus, his back. Yeah, one shot, man. Ew, sons of bitches. But it's not saying that this is not a real animal.

And the reason why I say that is Jane Goodall. Jane Goodall said she was 100% convinced. All the people she talked to that had the same story and all the same sightings that there was an undiscovered primate in the pacific northwest i have no problem i mean it's never it's something it's not anything that fucking would i think it'd be really awesome if somebody finally like caught one of those things but it wouldn't like it's not gonna make me fucking any happier when i wake up in the morning it would make me happier i love it i'm like a little kid i'd be so happy but i i think what the fuck do i know about primates a lot of what i know about primates came they learned from jane goodall so for me to like pretend that i know more about

primaries and jane goodall just seems ridiculous so jane goodall says there's a i'm inclined without doing too much research i'm inclined to believe it you know I mean Jane Cuddle is a she's a badass but she's a badass lady lady that's not a bitch scholarly lady thank you but she's um may I ask you a question I don't mean to offend Jane Cuddle you think she ever humped one of those for sure yeah fuck this shit off at least one just to see what was up maybe that's what kept her there all those years I think a lot of those ladies that they want to fucking chimps chimps have big dicks You know, it has that big dicks

Gorillas gorilla girls have little tiny dicks. You know why nobody's trying to fuck their girls Look at the size of them Jesus Christ the gorillas the over back the smart ones you think about what they are They're these giant, enormous, but peaceful vegetarian gorillas. It's like nature just made them so big so you leave them the fuck alone. And it works so good that they can have a harem. So they have a harem

and there's no need to grow a big dick. It's not about the size of your dick. You don't have to impress these chicks. They're yours. Go ahead. Get that one. So they have these little tiny dicks. They're like an inch long. They're always falling out. Gorillas yours. Go ahead. Get that one. So they have these little tiny dicks. They're like an inch long. They're always falling out. Gorillas are terrible at fucking. Christopher Ryan, the author of Sex at Dawn, talks about this. He was telling me

about this. Oh, really? How gorillas have fucking tiny little dicks because they have a hair. Yeah, there's no competition to grow big cocks. That's why all chimps have huge balls, too. Because all chimps are sluts. Female chimps

are just taking dick all over the place. So the male chimps, their balls swell disproportionately with sperm depending upon how much promiscuity is in their clan.

So if everybody's fucking everybody, their balls are giant. And they're just ready to shoot loads at a drop of a hat. You gotta be ready to fuck one of these crazy bitches whenever you can hold them down they're just

banging each other left and right especially like bonobos they're the craziest animal ever they have sex to to get over arguments they like yeah men and men that this is the fun women and women is that one of the premises in this book which is that bonobos are closer to us than chimps or equidistant yeah genetically so it's like and they fuck missionary position they look in each other's eyes when they're humping I think there's some odd lesbians shit that happens out there they're just sexually promiscuous they yeah it's a social it's a way to solidify social bonds through humping. They do everything except the mother doesn't fuck the son.

That's it. That's where they draw the line. But other than that, that's how they resolve issues. Father fucks daughter. Yep. Father fucks daughter. Brothers fuck sisters. Yeah.

But the mom does not fuck the sons. Nope. Yeah. It's strange. Well, they got something, right? That's step one, next try shoes they're never gonna evolve because they have the fucking thumbs on their feet and they want to fly around the trees they're not gonna lose that why would you lose that that's the most awesome thing ever flying around the trees is way better than any cool shit that we could do on the ground

you know so for them to like develop cars and all that other shit you have to spend a lot of time just walking around with shoes on well no man this is where we get into the idea of the first of all man i love the fucking idea of monkeys starting to wear shoes that would that would make me wake up catcher's mitts they would start off with catcher's mitts just how cute would that be like you see film of like monkeys like in the cute little sandals that they've made out of bush baby holy shit do you think a mitt would work i wonder if it would work sure i wonder if they could wear a mitt walk around with catcher's mitts on sure they could wear anything they could wear fucking t-shirts and helmets and goddamn boxing gloves it'd be the best what would what do you think

we would do if we walked in on chimps in the jungle and they were making shoes they were tying their shoes on no not even weapons just shoes we'd we shoot them no we'd weep with joy because it would be the cutest thing anyone ever saw and also you'd be on the front page of reddit like yes you would be totally on the front page reddit would explode and also it'd be like you know it'd be a kind of like um uh really spooky thing like which is this idea that maybe evolution itself is accelerating in all beings not just in fucking techno technology but like it's like hitting everything it's starting to speed up everywhere where those gorillas pop in those fucking poacher traps right you know what I mean like maybe shits happening everywhere speeding up and

speeding up and all think where things are suddenly gonna just start like talking wearing fucking shoes talking in cute English accents and for people to know the gorillas have figured out a way to disarm traps they know they figured out the mechanism behind the trap so they trigger the trap to working together yeah yeah it's really fascinating really fascinating they figured out a way to communicate their idea and they they took out some traps yeah I mean what would we do what would we do if they started evolving what would they do if they start developing weapons you know if you came into the jungle and you found chimps and they were holding on to Spears with flint tips what the

fuck do you do you know what do you do that gets crazy and what if they're just using it to hunt they're just using it to hunt then one day one kills a dog you know steals a dog in africa or somewhere and next thing you know it's on the war could you imagine if they actually did evolve what if chimpanzees this is a fucking stupid idea strap in but if you listen to mckenna's idea mckenna's idea the stoned ape theory was that there was a period of human history that scientists are a little bit confused about and that period is over two million years the human brain doubled and they don't know why they really don't know there's all sorts of thoughts you know like the throwing arm like that we figured out how to throw shit and kill things that accelerated our use of tools and the brain just kept up with what

you know what we needed and then the other the craziest one is mckenna's idea mckenna's idea was that uh it was because of mushrooms is that we had uh started coming down off the trees because the climate was changing and that the rainforest were receding in the grasslands and that these animals flipped over these cow patties looking for worms and shit that they would eat. And then they found the mushrooms on the top and they started eating the mushrooms. And then they started experiencing enlightenment.

They started having creative ideas. They started developing language. Why hasn't someone just taken some chimps and given them some mushrooms? Why don't they try that? I mean, if you're willing to try that why don't they i mean if you're willing to try lipstick on them and let's see if this perfume is fucking toxic when we turkey shoot it up your ass yeah you know they'll do all that to chimps they do testing on chimps

for medicine and they die they it's they do horrible shit to them they cut their heads off and see if they can keep alive allegedly um allegedly. But why not give them mushrooms? Could you imagine? What if they could show, we've been doing this for 45 years. We go to some fucking bunker in Nevada, out in Groom Lake. These are the chimps that we have developed through our mushroom program,

and they look like cavemen. Could you imagine? We've had them for 36 years. This is what they're starting to look like. Man, that's the, I mean, if only we could have whatever that fucking beam that they had in uh star trek the genesis ray or whatever that makes shit evolve faster because to you know that mckenna's idea of the proto-hominids chomping on those uh mushrooms was that um it happened of course over a long long time two million years two million

years because it and and like it's like mushrooms at low doses this is the other thing he mentioned in his theory is mushrooms at low doses man they're great for fucking dude they're great for having sex they're like they really like it's if you take the right dose it's it's an aphrodisiac yes so like his idea was um yeah so there's it's like it also improves visual acuity in the peripheral which so you can see a goddamn line sneaking up on your ass not just in the peripheral but they said that they've done tests on where they have two parallel lines and uh one parallel line will move very slightly offline. And you can recognize it quicker on psilocybin than when you're straight. Weird.

Yeah. Forget what the scientist was who did that. I should know. I should remember that. But it was one of the things that Terrence had as a part of his theory. But nobody ever took his theory seriously. Everybody got completely mocked it and made fun of it. Because mushrooms are like an inherently silly thing.

If you say you've done them or you think they're important, you're immediately an idiot. Silly sob. And what, did you go to a Grateful Dead concert and dance on a tapestry, you goddamn hippie? But what's amazing, it's like it can be responsible for one of the most powerful reconsiderations of your life ever, like a real true religious experience. Yeah. And we're all holding back on all this shit.

No, no, no. Because we're trapped in this wonky culture. We're all sort of at least partially got the brakes on when it comes to that stuff. No, they got the brakes on us. We don't have the brakes. The brakes aren't on. We got conditioned. The Reagans put a lot of fucking money into that shit, man.

This wasn't like the administration, of course not the family but this was like the you know this is the pharmacological Inquisition as they say yeah and it all stems back to the distribution of LSD through the United States starting with the CIA's experiments to see if they had a truth serum serum and the you know the way psychedelics do to society is that they fucking melt down the boundaries and when boundaries melt down it causes a shift and that shift does not work very well for the way we've run our society for a very long time and so they recognize that and they stop that shift because it um it's not but but it's important to realize that these breaks are being put on by people outside of us i mean if you look at shamanic cultures in the amazon you know these are this is a endogenous

part of their uh daily life it's embedded into their culture it's as normal as having fucking telephones you know it's a way to communicate with nature so this is like you know a very essential aspect of being a human being is taking a psychedelic um um and it has been for a very long time uh and you know whether or not McKenna's right about the neocortex expanding when protohominids chomp mushrooms, one thing is for certain. Once we found out about it, we indulged. What do you mean? I mean, that's for certain.

Yeah. Once we found out about it, people have been using them forever. Bingo. Yes, yes, yes, exactly. And we know from our own personal experience with them that the effect is not some kind of like um ridiculous uh uh frat party giggle fest it's like if you take the right dose and you do it with the right people and you do it with the right intention then there will be a massive shift in your consciousness akin to a form of ego death which allows you to heal and

allows you to reacquaint yourself with kind of the living connective energy that is in all things and um that's an that's a very important experience to have it's all but it's it's amazing how well the propaganda works considering how substantial the effect of the product is that it's suppressed this incredible you know i mean you would say that in an open market, eventually the cream rides to the top, but it doesn't get a chance because it's cut off and because it's illegal and demonized this incredible, I don't know, whatever you would call it, experience. Let's call it that. This incredible experience is kept away from you. It's kept away from you. What is essentially a natural experience by eating some things that people have eaten since the beginning of time.

And it's kept from you. And it's a shame. It's a shame that you can live your whole life without understanding that there might be some other aspects to this life that we also need to take into our body in order for us to get a better grasp on things. And they might have aided getting us to here. And we might be in a very sick, sick time where we're not using these things. And that's what's responsible for this whole chaotic community that we have. This whole chaotic thing where we're polluting the skies and polluting the ocean. And we will do anything for profit, including invade other countries.

We're doing all sorts of really insane, twisted things that are the types of things that would be happening if we were sick if there was something wrong with us if we weren't getting our medicine if we weren't getting right we we weren't getting what got us to the dance right yeah man if that's true if that's true is that if the human consciousness really did develop through psychedelics it only makes sense that we fucking need that shit just like we need meat. Yeah, it's almost like a vitamin, or it's like a psychic vitamin. And in the same way that way back when, right after the agrarian revolution, when people were getting less nutritional value because of droughts, and they became emaciated and small, and you can look at skeletons of people back then, they were much smaller.

Because they weren't getting the nutrition. In the same way, we are emaciated, but and you can look at skeletons of people back then they were much smaller right because they weren't getting the nutrition in the same way we are emaciated but in a psychic way so you end up with these people with these just broken fucking psychic egos pro wrestling fans yeah bro fucking pro wrestling no bro i fucking love pro wrestling and i love your show too i love you too i'm just kidding it's just a joke i got nothing against pro wrestling, and I love your show, too. I love you, too. I'm just kidding. It's just a joke. I got nothing against pro wrestling fans. Man, I'll take 700 fucking stadiums of pro wrestling fans over one Phelps family. You know what I mean? Let's talk about those fucks, man. Yeah, this crazy God hates fags guy.

Yeah, man. They're insane. When you say Phelps, though, you have to be careful because it's right after the Olympics. People would say, what the fuck did Michael Phelps do? Oh. That fucking pig Phelps. Jesus Christ, that guy. How dare he swim so fast?

He's not even like a human, man. He breaks the laws. Did you see the onion headline that Michael Phelps returned to his aquarium in New York? Like he lives in an aquarium. It's SeaWorld, I mean. But when he goes to the beach, he was like, there's no fucking way I'm getting in that water. He's like, I've been in water so much, much i am not fucking swimming like he doesn't ever swim in the ocean he's like i'm just sitting in the sand chilling i don't blame i mean fuck dude that guy's

like how many gold medals did that guy win more than anybody ever it's like in 20 or some shit something nuts he moves so well it's incredible i mean it's just like from an aesthetic point of view or uh you know from an even in an artistic point of view you you're you're looking at it and it looks like art it looks like he's like it looks like a dance and there's so much flow to it yeah as he's like fucking hurling through the water yeah it's so they move so fast that it's hard to believe but it is almost i mean if dance i mean if really if dance is impressive isn't that impressive just as well i think it's it's an impressive physical feat into a rhythm the way they can swim to a rhythm and then they go under and then they underwater

for like this long period before they bust open and start whipping it again what a crazy fucking sport man wild to watch wild to watch people do some shit that you just cannot fucking do. To know that that's like the capabilities of the human frame. Yeah. If it's that long and that strong and that young and that dedicated and it puts in this many hours every week, look what the fuck this thing can do. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing all the stuff that can happen. stuff that can happen and physically, mentally, what you can learn, the things that you can figure out. It's amazing the amount that you can send your consciousness out into the universe and

understand things. It's a fucking incredible, you know, this space suit that we're in, it's like, it's got all these like parts to it that we've forgotten how to use you know almost like some survivor of a spaceship crash has amnesia and is in this super advanced spacesuit and only uses like parts of it you know little parts of it to like amble around right right and it's like no man there's like crazy fucking circuit boards that you can access in this fucking thing but you know you need help there's certain fuels that you need to like make that connection can access in this fucking thing but you know you need help there's certain fuels that you need to like make that connection and those fuels are fucking if you're an athlete you got to eat the right food you know you can't just chomp on goddamn fruit loops and cheetos and

end up like being a professional uh olympic swimmer they've got they're feeding those people like crazy we don't even know it probably glows smells like cum this special nutritional like blast that they just spray into their mouths like foie gras geese there's fucking like you know god only knows what these fuckers have in their bodies and in the same way in for your intelligence you know for your for your spiritual uh growth you need to take into your fucking being certain certain things great scriptures incredible writing and on occasion a nice fucking mushroom trip you know but you got to be careful you know you got to be careful not to like i feel guilty saying this stuff because some people are you're not supposed to take it you shouldn't take it you're

in a bad part in your life right now your Your fucking balls smell like the bottom of a goddamn fucking, the bottom of a donkey's ass. You know, you got to clean your balls and clean yourself and your life up before you take the experience, you know? Some people shouldn't do it. But some people definitely should. You definitely should. It's very important.

Goddamn, just went on a hippie rant. Forgive me, my friends. Steve Jobs, though. I mean, come on. He said that fucking LSD was one big part of his understanding of the universe. Yeah, I think if we had a world filled with people who've all had breakthrough psychedelic experiences and they were running this country, it would be a lot easier. As long as they got

enough pussy to keep them satisfied. If we just had robot concubines or whatever people would think would be morally acceptable, keep them sexually satisfied so they don't go tweaking and they don't do stupid shit and undermine our world just based on their need for pussy. Dude, by the way, you don't need robot

concubines. You send out into the world, hey, it could for pussy dude by the way you don't need robot concubines you send out into the world hey get a jewel it could be a form of the military like a suck his cock and save the troops satisfy the geniuses sexually like some branch what if that was our fucking military like troops trained just to suck off geniuses to make them fucking happy what if that was like how we like that's how we went to wars we just sent troops of fucking blowjob masters into the homes of geniuses and the complex just sucking them off so they're happy yeah that's where they would take they should take like all like super geniuses just bring it to some place fuck getting pussy fuck having this ruin your

life we're just going to bring you constant bitches we're going to pay you well we just want you to be really creative. Time machines, whatever. If you get crazy and you want a family and you want to start to have children, we can arrange that as well. Yeah. Matter assimilators. They do, but then they want all the money. They want to take it.

They want to take all the money like a bad record deal. Yeah. Anybody who's, you know, you're creating things for companies. But here's the thing, man. One thing you never hear when a kid's like, I want to be an inventor, is another giving like, you're going to get a lot of pussy. You never fucking hear that.

You know what I mean? If that happened, we'd probably be floating right now. We'd be floating on a magnetic field, sending our fucking thought patterns out into the world instead of talking to microphones. There was this guy that I remember who was this this famous hacker who had like a cartoon that he did online i don't remember what his name was but it was a big portly guy and he's like from germany or some shit like that and kimber that's what his name was i think the previous kimber and uh he had cartoons of himself like we would go out and kill like evil dictators and uh he would take pictures of himself the dude made fuck loads of money he was like a hacker and then he went from being a hacker to being an internet security expert that would help

corporations and um he's like always driving around this crazy yacht always got this crazy hooked up mercedes here we are my private jet here we are in japan here we are you know we just landed in brazil i mean the dude was like an international style baller and he uh he just would put these pictures and videos of him just balling all over the world yeah i'm sure i'm sure yeah i'm sure that like a lot of those guys are definitely getting like some crazy experiences. They just probably have like refined desires. They have different ideas of what they want.

I'm sure that – who knows what they fucking do? Wozniak? Is Wozniak married? I don't know. I think he is. He's a super – we don't know what he does. No one knows what he does. I'm pretty sure that guy could walk through walls, man.

He's like really fascinating and smart and kind of like uh um he was only involved with apple for a while right and then he left yeah but now he's like he's his fucking crazy son of a bitch man he's like a loon yeah he's like a real like anti-authority kind of person who likes to break rules and he's got fucking like a wallet full of like professional fake ids with like holographically printed he was it's like it's on youtube there's a video of him showing his fucking awesome fake ids that really oh yeah he loves to like use technology to be a ant to you know to break little rules and laws and stuff it's kind of cool it's really cool, in fact.

You know, but you don't want a lot of those guys, right? You don't want to fucking, you need to see one or two of those guys. Have some fun. But you don't want 50,000 of those guys. What happens if we got 50,000 Steve Jobs, you know? Yeah. Because it's like, right now, the thing that is driving so many of us, not me, I'm driven by my love of humanity and i want the world to be a better place but i've

heard that many men are driven by the desire to and a lot of i i know this is probably shocking to you where are you getting this i've re i read it i read it on the back of a cereal box but i'm not could you imagine caution girls Men are driven by a secret desire to fuck. Why do they wear those crazy ties? To let you know. Yeah, man, but... There'll be no shenanigans here. Why, I am a gentleman with a tie on.

But a lot of fucking professions, it's very strange. Some professions are fuck professions. Some professions are not. Right. Fucking firemen... Rockstar is a fuck profession. Thatmen a fire rock star is a fuck profession that's 100 rock star is a fuck profession jagger david lee roth what do you think of you think of them just getting mad pussy all over the planet yeah i mean they've gotten so

much pussy that they've like withered into jerky strips when you see him now well well they're also you know the long and the tooth man it's just life long in the tooth but no no no it's not no that's not a normal senior citizen these people are like somebody made a stick figure out a beef jerky they're fucking goddamn crazy looking from all the fucking and they're still fucking they're like they're they're still fucking to this day viagra is like runs in their veins spice they're fucking all the time dude still that's a different old man what do you think like mick jagger on a regular week how much young pussy does he get i think he's got a fucking rotation of probably 25 young girls 25 coming book coming in and out and he's coming women women would be like why would you want that let's

pretend that you we have a girl on the podcast with us that is probably maybe secretly attracted to you, but really upset that you're talking about this so openly. Why would you want that? Why would you want 20 different girls? Why would you want that? You're attracted to me? Why would you want that?

Well, look, I guess I don't because I don't want to fuck you. I don't want that stuff. It's ridiculous. I don't because I don't want to fuck you. I don't want that stuff. It's ridiculous. I don't know, man. I don't know why we want that, why girls might not understand

that that's something guys want. But here's the thing, though, man. This is why I love this book, Sex at Dawn. Who were we just saying would have 20 girls? I believe it was Mick Jagger. Right, Mick Jagger. I'm sorry So the idea is like This is one of the premises of this book is it's not a fucking genetic quality of being a woman

That you don't want to fuck all the time that it's more of a culturally conditioned Thing that's happened from your upbringing because we're in a very sexually repressed society and ladies like to fuck. Now, this... What does that have to do with the sexually suppressed part? They want to fuck more because we're sexually suppressed? They want to fuck more than they let on. Because it's like, you know... More than they let on.

Yeah, because when you're a guy, what's the number one first thing you got to fucking do once you grow pubic hair? What's the number one first thing? You got to get fucking laid, man. You don't want to be a virgin oh i'm 23 and i'm a virgin still it's like a mark of shame meanwhile i'm like a hot girl who's like yeah you know i'm still a virgin i'm saving myself from man

what so they plus you know that if she's 23 and she's a virgin she's probably really good at head oh yeah no man she's figured out a way to virgin, she's probably really good at head. Oh, yeah. No shit, man. She's figured out a way to get guys off with her mouth. Yes, that's for sure. Or maybe her asshole. Oh! Oh!

This guy over here. Duncan! Where's the puppet, Duncan? Guys, I love you! It won't bring the puppet. I'm going to see the fucking seance! Dude, let me tell you. High point of my fucking comedy career is getting a goddamn message from people saying

Andrew Dice Clay says that he likes part of my fucking act. Dude, that's intense for me. It's hot as fuck in here, isn't it? It's fucking hot. Hey, I'm gonna turn the air conditioning on. So why don't you just talk to the people about your life for a couple seconds? Sit here by myself and ramble. One second.

One second. Go ahead. Don't be scared. Well, friends, I'm gonna to do a mini rant here. You're going to just leave me here? Is this some kind of fucking prank? Three seconds, buddy. There's no need for you to feel alone in the world, my friends.

Open your heart up to the eternal spirit of life, and you will find that you will draw into your orbit many beautiful things including delightful wet pussies that comes happy moments happier moments you just have to stop hating let go of the pain let go of your anger open your third eye and allow yourself to embrace the idea that God is love. Visit DuncanTrussell.com. www.DuncanTrussell.com and join my Minecraft server. We have a Minecraft server.

I play Minecraft. It's one of the loneliest creepiest what the fuck are you doing you transmitted no i'm telling telling the internet to go to my minecraft server that's what i'm spending my time doing are you really have you ever played minecraft no i just rambled for a long time sorry about that you guys i was disjointed rambling how dare you duncan how dare you do what we've been doing for two hours continue on your own when you're alone in the room everything changes yeah one thing uh that you and i have both been backing around um or uh battering rather around is this idea of uh the simulation theory idea we keep bringing it up man it's a point where it's like i wonder if

you know if you really want to get hardcore crazy with the idea of manifesting reality with your ideas you know i wonder i wonder if you can manifest that the whole thing really is some sort of a simulation i wonder if you can manifest that i wonder if it literally can morph that far around dude um that sounds so hippie and stupid it sounds so stoner stupid it sounds so that dude i just smoked a joint man this is the first time i thought about that man it doesn't it doesn't stop it from from being possible well man i mean when you like there's a lot of fucking crazy shit when you start playing around with simulation theory and i'm so glad you brought it up.

Because we get this archetype in many of the world religions that involves the man god. The god being eaten by man. The god that gets sacrificed for the sake of humans. The god that merges in with human beings. The fucking shit movie Prometheus tried to address this in a really crap way but like the um the notion of the the creators or whatever but what's really fascinating about the idea of being in a simulation like if we are in a simulation now is that we are immortal in the sense that we are computer code that's being run through a some form of operating system and because we're just

computer code we can be as there's actually this guy from the singularity institute i can't remember his name no i think he's from oxford it's on youtube and he's talking about this idea of vivisecting the human brain scanning the neural system plopping that shit into a computer after you scan the synapses and the exact structure as uh close as you can as accurately as you can you run you run this synapses and the exact structure as close as you can, as accurately as you can, you run this through a simulator, and now you have a being with consciousness living inside a computer.

Not only do you have a being with consciousness living inside of a computer, what he said was so awesome is it could then theoretically be rewound. Time could be sped up. It could be pulsed. You know what I mean so you could like control the reality of this being in some really bizarre ways and so what where it gets really

fascinating is that the person who this neurological scan was based the first the living being the meat body whose brain was put on some kind of futuristic combination deli slicer slash neurology scanner that fucking being died had to die so that the being inside the simulator could live and so then you get into this well is it the only way to make this thing is a slice it up well i'll tell you crazy world i'll tell you this the only way to make a computer right now is by fucking putting the pieces of the computer together. It's not through slicing it up. The point is, if this is a simulation, the implication is that it was created by a living being.

Right. And that living being, theoretically, is mortal. And so that mortal being has died. That mortal being may have died eeons ago depending on who knows because time is a is based on the uh simulation you know what a nutty idea that literally the universe began right as you were born there was nothing before that yeah there was nothing existed before that it was born yeah right when you were born and everything that you you think of is complete utter horse everything you think of is just a simulation the universe

being born when you were born it's just because that's when they plugged you in that's the moment they plugged you into the simulation well see what yeah it's a mind melter and here's where it gets even more mind melty because everybody's talking where it gets even more mind fucking melty, because everybody's talking about this idea of the singularity of the moment that our computers wake up, our machines wake up and become aware that they exist as a thing. But where it gets really trippy is the idea that we're inside the simulation and we're the machine waking up. We literally are the thing waking up to an awareness of itself and gaining consciousness of itself in a true way that's what humans are they the the the fucking

i almost want to rewrite the uh the god the garden of eden story replacing the word god with programmer because it gets so fucking cool and like the programmer made man in his own image you know it's what's really getting really crazy is when you get to these scientists who are saying that they found computer code concealed in superstring equations not just fucking ones and zeros but what this guy calls dual error correction code which is some form of weird fucking shit that's already in our web browsers and based on the technology or the invention of a programmer in the 1940s. I mean, this is some lost

shit here. This is some lost shit, but it's been dismissed, man. I mean, I've been raving about it on my podcast and some people like said that it's a real fringy theory and, you know, who knows? But aside... I thought it was I thought it was um proven to be true it's coming from a respected theoretical physicist at the University of Maryland I can't remember his name but it's definitely not like a kook it's coming from a respected scientist who has found this shit in these uh equations they're using to represent super symmetry and string theory string theory these weird symbols these use to try to represent it but yeah man it's still

like it's a pretty eerie thing you know yeah he tried to explain it to um neil uh degrasse tyson yeah in a video yeah and uh it's it's the whole premise of it is very hard to wrap your head around but this guy his name is dr. s James Gates yeah and he's a theoretical physicist and with a crazy haircut yeah yeah the John s Toll professor of physics at the University of Maryland and the director of the Center for string and and Particle Theory. He's reporting that certain string theory supersymmetrical equations, which describe the fundamental nature of the universe and reality, contain embedded computer codes. These codes are digital data in the form of ones and zeros.

Not only that, these codes are the same as what makes web browsers work and our error correction codes. Gates says, we have no idea what these things are doing here. Whoa. So that's where it gets crazy. Our first contact with a fucking alien is going to be with the

programmer. But it gets, where it gets really weird, Joe, here's where it gets really fucking weird, is the idea that we're running in a simulation inside a simulation. In the same way that we're trying to simulate reality through video games,

SimCity, various fucking weather pattern, supercomputers, and all the various ways we try to articulate reality through machines, this has already been done in a previous machine that's articulating itself, super computers and all the various ways we try to articulate reality through machines This has already been done in a previous machine That's articulating itself like some kind of mirror or flat refracting off itself infinitely going into itself

Always inventing itself again and again and again and again if that is the case What a trip it is to the idea of inventing video games while inside a simulation. Yeah, but see this is where it gets cool because maybe the simulation itself is a novelty gender generator maybe the simulation what it's here for is to generate you know novelty which is like look man let's see what happens if we put an entire planet full of people who quantum you know nanobots have done neurological scans of their brain to do like kind of like neurological thumbprints, which we then animate within the machine. Let's see what they do. I mean, what we did was we invented some crazy shit. Let's see if they invent some new shit inside the simulator. And all of a sudden the simulator is inventing new technologies that are going up

through the goddamn, uh, the different levels of the machine until finally it pops out and the programmer's desk is like oh awesome look at this one of these beings invented time travel let's make a time machine the machine invented time travel who knows but it's like a really great computer like right now we put into like what's it called uh wolfram alpha you can throw in some pretty awesome equations and it'll spit out it like you can do a lot of crazy shit. Yeah. But how great would it be if you had just a machine where you just seed it with living beings and it starts regurgitating inventions that these beings are creating.

How fucking awesome would that be? You know? You know what I found the other day, man? It's laying around here somewhere. It's a camera, an Apple camera from a long fucking time ago, man. And it looks like such a piece of shit now. It's a camera an apple camera from a long fucking time ago, man And it looks like such a piece of shit now. It's so funny. This is like one of the first digital cameras It's like a dinosaur and it's only from a tiny Amount of years ago. Yeah, well, what is 15 years in the greater spectrum of the universe?

Yeah, or just even of human history and ain't shit 15 years ain't shit But this 15 year old camera was fucking useless just useless stupid looking camera dude they always that's the other component of technological advancement is each um the each earlier phase always seems stupid stupid but when it comes out it seems awesome awesome well try driving like an old car you know old cars they look great but if you try driving like a 1969 Chevelle they're really hard to handle there's a lot of slack in the steering they have this crazy power steering where it's really numb it feels real strange they slide all over the place you hit the brakes they lock up and go sideways I mean they're really dangerous deatht death traps yeah and then go from that to what you drive that mini well that thing is like

a little go-kart little fucking spaceship how dare you it ain't no go-kart that's my but i mean it's the way it's low to the ground like that that thing is uh it's it's light and when you get a light car that has like a really good driverain and a good transmission and tight steering, it's like, you know, that wasn't even possible. Well, your Mini, people would consider a sporty sort of economy car. Yeah. That was a race car just a few decades ago. Dude, what about this?

If I take my fucking phone, I guess you know that you've been dealing with this for years, but I've been driving an 89 Volvo that could barely get me to the fucking grocery store for a very long time. So for me, being on the phone, and then I get into the Mini Cooper. And it goes into the system. Pops into the speakers? It's amazing. That's crazy.

It just does it. It knows. It just does it. The phone just shifts into the speakers of the car. That's insane, man. It's incredible if you really stop and think about it. If you think about the fact that we're driving around like that you know just talking in the air and it's transmitted to someone else who's driving around doing the same thing how about the fucking

what the quantum teleportation shit they're doing where they're blasting photons across lakes what the fuck is that and they're saying like in the the articles that i've read and i didn't research them deeply but the articles i read they're saying well this isn't teleportation but it's a nice step in that direction yeah like what did you just say you actually made a step in the direction of teleportation like think of the effect that has on society teleport fucking tation man where like instead of having to go through a security line at a goddamn airport you just zap zap from your home teleporter to fucking asia in a millisecond where do you want to eat tonight france or china i don't know you

decide you always make me fucking decide what about that nice little kibosh place in egypt let's go there now you're just deciding anywhere on the planet that you want to go i think it's more like people showing up and then kicking you in the balls and then disappearing i don't know what is a kibosh i just made it up it's nothing it's a stone food it's something stone it's a mythical stone uh stoner food that exists in my simulator a kibosh never heard of it dude i think i wanted to say like something between a kabbalah and a um squash or something i don't know it's a combination of the tree of life mixed in with like a buttered squash the cabala was like the thing that like roseanne was into for a while and madonna i believe was into it for a while too right well yeah man and before them

it's been around like much longer than that it's like know, tarot cards are based on it. It's a crazy son of a bitch, man. It's just a, it's trying to like map energy flows from nothingness into somethingness. And it's a very strange, esoteric thing, which I don't understand. I keep wanting to study it more. When I got strep throat

and was fucking blasted on Kodian for five days, I spent a good two days just fucking reading the kabbalah and i had fucking and tarot cards and i was putting them on the floor to try to understand the way they connect to the kabbalah and i i don't remember anything that i got out of that but it was like a little bit of it because it's very complicated i keep like some people have emailed me and said they understand it and um I think I might get Roseanne on my podcast and then I could ask her directly dude that would be incredible

Roseanne Barr is a real fucking she's a real legend man she's a firebrand yeah yeah I mean isn't she trying to uh she's trying to run for president is that what she's doing yeah she's running for fucking president man she's going for it it's a good way to get info out there you know wow it gets you know it gets some exposure and she does not give a fuck i know but it's also a fun thing i'm sure no but she can't really think she's going to be president she doesn't think she's going to be president but she's got like shit that she's trying to get out into the world i mean if you follow her fucking twitter stream man she blasts some crazy shit out there if ron paul couldn't fucking make it through that was that was a disappointing one man that was almost like wow let's see maybe this is real

maybe this is real but there's like so much evidence with him trying to suppress his victories if he had won a couple of states he kept that shit on the wraps god we always fall for the trick i fought for every fucking year man i. Every election I fall for it. Well, I certainly wanted to believe in Obama. I felt like he was the closest guy to us. You know, he was like in his 40s. Young guy, black guy, single mom. You know, the whole deal.

Like you figure this is a guy that would, he's going to set us right. Dude, I was on fucking Sunset Boulevard in Silver Lake, drunk, howling at cars with a group of hipsters when Obama got elected I was so fucking happy I've really I voted for him I fucking well man I was like this is it this is it and you know he has done some pretty now look but before I get as fucking assailed by a million tweets about the fucking drone attacks. Guys, I fucking understand. I do know that his DEA has busted more goddamn dispensaries than George W. Bush's fucking DEA.

There's some fucked up shit going on. But there are some other things that he's done. The big thing was the social thing to me. are some other things that he's you know he's the big thing was the social thing to me it was like wow we we have accepted a guy who's half black from a single mom you know who admits he smoked marijuana you know didn't he say he did a little coke but this is the problem he fucking jokes about smoking dope and his goddamn dea is tossing farmers in prison yeah and not only that you know we're selling this hemp force protein powder we We can't even grow this hemp in America. We have to get it from Canada.

And thank you for informing me on all this, folks. People tweeted me that it was legal in Vermont. So we looked into it, and it is, but the federal government is not letting people do it. They're still saying it's illegal federally. And this is just growing the plant hemp, which isn't psychoactive at all. saying it's illegal federally and this is just growing the plant hemp which isn't psychoactive at all you know because it's related to marijuana they've decided that there's no way people should be able to grow it which is hilarious so you can you can have it but you got to buy it from canada so we have this wacky deal we have to import that shit even though it's it's not even psychoactive

they're just telling you that a useful plant is illegal it's really weird i mean it's it's not even psychoactive they're just telling you that a useful plant is illegal it's really weird i mean it's it's one of the weirdest aspects of the drug war and you know the the the war for marijuana legalization is the the the actual like hemp hemp fiber the actual hemp as a as a resource yes you know oh yeah as a commodity hemp as a resource. Yes. You know? Oh, yeah, man. As a commodity. Hemp as a commodity is very, very valuable. It's very valuable, yet illegal to grow and harvest in this country. And it was grown by the colonies.

Yeah. And people don't have any idea that that's what rope used to be made of. That's what canvas is made out of. When you paint all those ancient paintings, like the Mona Lisa, those are made on cannabis. It's it's the it's the it's comes from the word cannabis because it's a stronger fiber cotton is weak as shit and compared to hemp like we get used to cotton we're just we just assume that that's just what it is it is what it is but the cotton is nothing compared to hemp hemp paper is better hemp paper is like really hard to rip. It's like fucking super strong.

It's weird. It's kind of like an alien plant, man. The stalk is really light, but it gets real dense and hard. Dude, don't get me going on that plant, man. It's insane. When you get around a nice, flourishing marijuana plant, you know like when you get around a fucking monkey

and it's like dog plus marijuana plants maybe i'm just projecting but they seem like plants plus yeah like they seem like there's a little bit more going on in the sons of bitches they've got a weird fucking energy field around them it's just different i went to a dispensary's grow room once and you walk into their back room they had a grow room and the grow room once. And you walk into their back room. They had a grow room. And the grow room was like tingly. Yeah.

And there's all these plants that are like super healthy and super moist. They're getting spray. They have like a little spray thing that's timed. Spraying them certain times during the day. And they live under these lamps. And, you know, the lamps are on for a certain amount of time and off for a certain amount of time. And you're watching it. And it's like these are like intelligent creatures they feel like they're they're they feel like they're greeting you with their energy yeah it's strange around one of those then it's even creepier that you chop them up like

what the man you don't even let them grow you let them grow a certain point and then like all right time to die yeah you chop them and then you light them on fire dude and that's the relationship it's the fucking fire sacrifice man it's like this isn't you know this is like in every single religion there's a reference to burning incense there's a burning bush burning the burning bush it's in everything dude and it's like the fact that the component has been removed from the equation the variables they're trying to take the variable out of the fucking equation it's like when i when sometimes when you go to certain churches it's like a bunch of people how many

churches are you going to oh dude you got to go to fucking churches from time to time are you kidding fuck yeah man they're so psychedelic and cool and interesting phenomena it's like i don't i mean i will i'll go to a church over a zoo really i'll go to a church over a laser light show so how often are you going to churches i've been i i went on for a little tear of going to a gnostic christian church because of this book that i read really yeah i would yeah you eat some edible marijuana and go to the gnostic christian church to watch the Gnostic Mass, which is this beautiful ancient ceremony, which is like, basically, it's an, well, it is, it's an occult ritual. It's like you're doing something called the transubstantiation, which is transforming matter into like the flesh of infinity. But the Gnostics don't look, take things literally. It's a different fucking thing altogether. And it's quite beautiful. I'm not a Gnostic Christian, but man,

chomp on some fucking marijuana, go to a Gnostic Christian church respectfully. Don't go there like some asshole, go there respectfully and fucking report back. You'll find that the experience is rather moving and beautiful. And you can see how that component in religion is very important. See, we do psychedelics now, right? Generally, we do psychedelics, but we don't have ceremony. We have a kind of rudimentary ceremony, the passing of the joint, certain rules based around the consumption of the substance, but there's no real like ceremony after that i think some people do it but it's mostly you get high and you watch them you know you hang out with your friends maybe you work out go jogging draw right there's like rudimentary low-level ceremonies but no like chanting candles incense ancient what's the benefit of the ceremony well one one thing that the

first thing to remove from when it comes to like spiritual stuff is the term is benefit you know what I mean because it's like it's it's a weird thing that plays against a lot of the way we understand shit is it's like no there's it's not like you're not going for it for like so much a benefit though it is entertaining and you are getting some instant kind of benefit from like just like being in a beautiful space listening to people chant when you're super baked there's some immediate benefit that comes from that but the um i think there's a lot of i mean the the the the it's a For me, the experience was like, this is a very old thing that I don't understand that well. And the energy in here is fucking cool. That was it.

That was the first thing that came out of it. And then the priest made a joke about marijuana, actually. It was like... Really? Yeah, when he was talking. I can't remember, but I remember being like, whoa, fucking crazy, man, because I'd just been reading in this book, magic, marijuana, and religion, that cannabis was ritualistically consumed in Gnostic ceremonies.

And so it was kind of weird and interesting. Anyway, man, it's a beautiful fucking thing. But when you see rituals that don't have psychoactive components in them, sometimes it feels like you're watching people warming their hands on dry tender that hasn't been set alight and pretending that there's fire coming up out of it you know it's like you you room to remove the psychedelic from ritual when we see in like so many indigenous cultures the it's a component of their spirituality and their religion it's kind of interesting yeah it was a very important aspect of the growth you know a very important aspect of the you know the ceremony itself the transcending to the next stage, the going through the experience, the trip, to having the vision quest, the peyote ritual,

whether it was the ayahuasca ritual, whether it was mushrooms in South America and Mexico, whatever it was, it was all about a transformative experience. It was all about getting closer to Gaia, getting closer to the energy, the true energy, which we all get off, man. Society is very complicated. Our social interactions are so overbearing. The idea that there's 300 million of us jammed onto this spot interacting with each other all the time and you know it's it's it's hard to it's hard to stay steady it's hard to stay on track not freak out it's hard but then this comedy and freaking out too it's a problem too it's when the more you freak out and get pissed at things the funnier it is yeah and you got to let yourself freak too i mean that's another thing

is like people this fucking thing where people are all about being happy all the time people have confused um you know happiness is the end goal like having this emotional state of just i'm happy today like that's not it the idea is being your fully yourself and the entire spectrum of emotional experience you know man and it's like and part of the emotional experience of existing is having meltdowns from time to time like it's good to have a nice meltdown from time to time it's good to like freak from don't beat yourself up for losing your right it's gonna happen why wouldn't you lose your you're in a goddamn simulator with

dual error correcting code at the fundamental layer of the universe and the thing is more than allegedly we're too stupid to really understand that. It's more than likely a telescoping simulation where each incremental telescoping moving out becomes more and more entropic and out of focus, and we're somewhere in this middle, mid-range of this telescoping simulator that keeps getting washed out more and more and more. This is the principle in physics of the universe expanding and running out of energy, or the idea and hinduism of kali yuga the final age of human beings or the mayan calendar and all the various

eschatological prophecies talking about the end of the world the fucking simulator is going to run out of juice someone's going to get called to dinner and have to stop playing the game or go out or i love my country i love god i love my guns that's right and anybody wants to change that you gotta come through me i gotta come through me i love my simulator i love the programmer and anybody who wants to with the operating system is gonna have to go through my firewall i love the engineer i took the blue pill yeah right well then you know those guys are nuts didn't one of those fucking guys get a section yeah yeah well you know the whole controversy behind the script there was a woman who claimed that she had written that and given it to them like years before and they took the idea and made it a movie

but I think she lost I think she lost in court. It's got to be hard to try to get money out of The Matrix, even if it's true. There's fucking so much money behind that machine. But yeah, she sued. I don't know if she's crazy. I shouldn't even be bringing it up. Because you never really know. Sometimes people steal ideas, but sometimes people are kind of crazy. Well, I mean, and also the idea of the Matrix itself is like an age-old idea.

Yeah, but I think the similarities were very extreme. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm talking out of my ass. Let me pull it up real quick. Matrix lawsuit. What a great movie, man. There's so much information encoded in that son of a bitch. Yeah, but the sequels were terrible.

I don't remember the sequels. You don't? No, man, I really don't I remember the first one It's almost like they gave the reins to somebody else Snopes There's a Snopes which means It's a problem

Right? Isn't it usually? What is? Snopes? Yeah when it's Snopes it's like they're clearing up a myth Isn't almost all Snopes Clearing up myths? Right. Yeah. It says, the claim is that she won a large judgment in a copyright infringement suit

over the authorship of the film The Matrix. That is false, apparently. And she started in, okay, in October 4, 2004, ended a six-year dispute involving Sophia Stewart. And so six fucking years it dragged on. Copyright infringement, racketeering received and acknowledged by the Central District of California

blah blah blah blah blah. Stewart who has resided in Salt Lake City for the past five years will recover damages from the films. Wait a minute. She will cover damages. The Matrix 1, 2, and 3 as well as the Terminator and its sequels. Holy shit. She will soon receive one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood,

as well as gross receipts of both films and their sequels, the total of $2.5 billion. What? I thought it just said it wasn't real. Yeah, I got confused. I thought they were explaining it. Oh, this is examples. This is examples of the various lies.

Oh, I see. Okay. $2.5 billion. Yeah. Apparently, she generated controversy by claiming in a lawsuit brought against directors Andy and Larry. Which one became a chick? Can I ask you something? Holla.

When you deposit a huge amount of money into your bank account, how long does it take to go through? Like, if you deposited, like, a million dollars in your bank account. I don't know, but listen to this. Stewart's case was dismissed in June 2005 when she failed to show up for a preliminary hearing of her case. In a 53-page ruling, Judge Margaret Morrow of the Central District Court of California

dismissed the suit, saying Stewart and her attorneys had not entered any evidence to bolster its key claims or demonstrated any striking similarity between her work. And didn't show up that's crazy well man what that is you think they paid her i think they pulled her son salisovich i don't know i maybe why why not they've got a shitload of money who knows i don't know probably not i wonder i wonder how close it was dude how close the case was i mean mean, she's a, who knows, man. You can take anyone to court, you know?

Like, you can file suit against people. Right. I mean, people, when I worked at the comedy store, filed suit against Mitzi for sending negative telepathic vibes into their thoughts. For reals? Yeah. Crazy. She had to go to court for that?

Kooks, look up the parking meter lady. There's someone suing the city for their new parking meters. You can Google search it. It's like all over the news right now. It freaked her out. Do some people just like lawsuits? They just get really good at it? It's like a hobby.

Just fuck with the system. Try to drag things through. I mean, of course, some people make a lot of money. Some people will actually track down ladies' nights and sue the fucking companies because they can't get in yeah yeah that's hilarious yeah that's like a way that's some people's bread and butter how hilarious is that people will find places that aren't like equipped for the handy for uh for people in wheelchairs and they'll fucking sue them man and you know in that way i am very much a feminist in that i think women should be allowed to have their own fucking gym and i don't think

you should be allowed to protest that i think if women want to work out in a gym with no drooling fucking ape dudes any guy who tried to go to that gym is an asshole if you want to go to a gym that's just completely filled with women who don't want to be around men. They know the deal. That's what they agreed to. And you want to claim that your rights are being violated because this gym is closest to you? So you just, by proximity, you should be allowed to use it? Like, they shouldn't be... What a ridiculousness.

You shouldn't be allowed to limit your business to only include one gender because the other gender is always trying to fuck that single gender? You know, always making them uncomfortable and feel weird when they're fucking stretching out? Yeah, fuck it's fucking gross it's gross it's gross that any asshole would actually try to sue them for that but that you would want to go but but you know but that's weird because like you know women's bathrooms are like sovereign nations for women a man can't sue to be allowed to go into a woman's bathroom well a woman can't sue to be in a man's bathroom right so in there and there it can sue if there's not a woman's be allowed to go into a women's bathroom. Well, a woman can't sue to be in a man's bathroom. Right. So in there it's accepted.

But you can sue if there's not a woman's bathroom. If you go to a place and there's only a man's bathroom, you could sue. All right. You have to have both. Yeah, you have to have both. So they would have to build a gym. If they built a gym next to that gym. All men.

For all men. One would be empty and one would be filled with women. Yeah. Well, you know, all men gym gets filled with gay guys Oh, yeah, I forgot about that Gold's gym dumb joke. I forgot about that I when I first was on news radio, I'd work out there and I had this whole bit about it Doing a bench press and dudes would just like spot you they wouldn't even ask They would just literally just dangle their balls right above your head

They were like so cocky like dudes were like hitting on dudes left and right in this gym it was crazy because that's what they were there for i watched these guys just just grunting through a set they were uh doing um the guy was doing rows you know so he's like bent over and the other guy is chest to back, okay, pressing down on him. And the way he's spotting him is, you know, the guy is holding on to the bar, and he's holding on to the top of the bar, chest to back. And it's like he's fucking a man. I mean, it's like it's really physical. Like if I was doing that, I would, you know, if it was a chick, if I was doing that to my wife, I'd get a dick.

My dick would get hard. If you were helping her pull and push like that, he would start to just put this fucking weight down what's up you know you would immediately want to fuck well i mean it's a fucking motion and these guys were doing that in the gym no it's funny how like the it's funny how the mythical the mythical world of porn like in the because in the porn universe the physics of porn are not the physics of the material world the physics of porn that shit happens dude you're at the gym and some chick's like hey can you spot me for a second and you're like sure i'll spot you and then like just she just starts sucking your dick and you're like wow i can't believe that i guess i owe you one zip

yeah yeah that's the physics of porn. And then another dude will come over and you start jacking off and sticking into her while she's sucking your dick. And you don't care. You're like, hey, what's up? Hey, what's up, buddy? Yeah, let's run a train on this bitch. Porn physics. But it's weird how in places like what you're talking about, which I had this guy, this very fucking brilliant guy, Connor Habib, who also happens to be a gay porn star,

on my podcast. And he was talking about fucking, he wrote actually a great essay on cruising, which will permanently shift your notion of rest areas. Permanently. But like, you know, he calls those types of gy gems that you're talking about i think the term he used was cruisy is the word of it so yeah so like those places the physics in

there are the same as inside porn if you're a gay dude you can go to a gym and like and you're gonna fuck yeah you're gonna fuck yeah it's a completely different experience because there's no yang it's all just everybody's or there's no yin i don't know which one is the hard style but it's just just fucking it up that's it they just they're just looking to fuck one thing i've never thought on my way to the gym is i'm probably gonna get laid in here i've never thought that i'm like oh i think i'm gonna get a fucking probably get a blow job after my fucking uh squats today i told you you when Bravo and I used to work out at this gym. We used to work out at 24 Hour Fitness. And when we would go there, there was a dude that we got friendly with.

It was the manager guy, real friendly guy. And he had just transferred over from Santa Monica. And he was just so happy. He was so relaxed to be in the suburbs. And I go, well, what's going on? He goes, I was brought in there to clean it up And he was brought in there because they were just fucking everywhere. They had just turned it into a gay gym It was just not just a gay gym, but it was like it was a gay pickup joint

It was a it was a disco so they would have a steam room They would fuck in a steam room people would constantly be walking in on guys fucking in the steam room They would find loads all over the benches and shit He'd have to come in and hose everything down so they had to like literally like clean up the whole place and tell them they got to stop fucking and people get mad at them like what so do i do you think there was like one guy who was like straight and just annoyed all the time because he was always sitting in jizz and like i just want to fucking work out dude i'm sure there must have been some straight guys there i though i was straight when i worked out at gold's gym i was straight like when i started there before i went

queer uh i was straight and i was there and uh so the guys i worked with were straight and they were there it was a convenient gym it wasn't all gay but it was at least 50 maybe more gay and they were really like they owned it they owned it they owned being gay they owned that place they would wear like timberland boots with like fluffy puffy socks and like shaved legs very muscular legs with ready ready ready daisy duke shorts yeah yeah and guys would work out like that with a tank top on they were gay as fuck dude at the fucking gold's gym i used to work out at gold's gym in hollywood on coal that's what i'm talking about oh gold's on coal oh yeah dude there was a guy in chaps who worked out there a fucking black a black leather hat and fucking chaps like he was like

just wandered off of a fucking uh ranch filled with but it's their spot man you know like good for them that i've never understood anti-gay feelings they seem like they're having a fun time i know i know a lot of gay people and i i it seems like they're having a good time they got a lot of disposable disposable income you know yeah i know this gay couple they're always driving a new car they're like they're having a great time yeah man, man. Yeah, no. These fucking homophobes. These fucks right now are really like, really. But it's cool, man, because what's happening, what's really cool and fascinating is the

bigots are the ones who are being driven into the closet. It used to be that it's like reversing. Gay people are coming out of the closet, and bigots are getting pushed into the closet that they came out of, which is a part that's a good balance that's what it should be like and i've always said that that that's my take on everything that as as as a human being that i should be a humanist you know and i should it shouldn't matter whether i'm with the straights or with the gays or the whites or the blacks, we should all just be with the humans. And I've resisted any ideas of being a masculinist

or any ideas of being a feminist or any ideas of being a nationalist or any ideas of being a peacenik or a warm-up. I mean, stop it. This is ridiculous. You're a fucking human. We're all human. And it should be real simple. We should get in each other's way as little as possible help each other out as much as

possible yes it's really that simple it's very simple it's really that simple and anything else is crazy and that's why you know and people are really upset about this whole Tosh thing and people got upset at the backlash but what I think we we can't ever pretend that intent is not important. We can't ever pretend that there are buzzwords that you can never use or subjects which you can never cover, or you're not allowed to because someone could have possibly had a bad experience and you're going to trigger an event.

That's not comedy, man. You can't have those sort of restrictions and have stand-up comedy you're it's not going to work that way you're going to miss out on a lot of great comedy dude you can't have those fucking restrictions on anything you can't have it on literature you can't have it on poetry you can't have any smart people want to restrict people why do these smart people want to come down on it so hard when they know what is really going on? Well, I think there's a bunch of different answers to that question. I think there's a variety of reasons people want to do it from the from like, I suppose, like people who are like crusaders and truly are true believers in what they're doing, like really have gotten the fucking the language virus to the nth degree and for really believe that they have to shoot the abortion doctor in the face you know really believe to like

all the way to the the you know bottom level where it's just like people are trying to look cool or even worse how about the guy who goes to the sikh temple and doesn't even understand the sikhs are very peaceful people and thinks that they're Muslims in some way. And he's got 9-11 tattoos on his body and he kills a bunch of people. Yeah. How about that? Unless you want to Alex Jones it up. False flag operation.

False flag. Well, look, man. I don't fucking greedy, selfish, lying people tend to use complexity to their advantage. And people who seem to be more on the fucking beam, as the Freemasons say, have very simple ideas, very simple fucking ideas, like what Gandhi said, you know? Very simple idea.

Find someone who needs help and help them it's simple right and right away some assholes like yeah but what does that mean what does help mean it's like I'll tell you what help means somebody fucking might need you to loan them some money somebody might need you to bring them some soup somebody might need a ride to the fucking airport it's not complicated man it's basic and if everyone starts following basic principles like that then there's plenty of resources yeah yeah the the real problem is we got this weird competitive game that's going on and it's uh it's set up not not an efficient way

where we generate just the amount that we need in order to be happy but in some crazy way where you never think enough is enough and the game becomes part of what motivates you and instead of it just being about happiness it sometimes morphs into just being about the numbers just being about the game just being about accomplishments and you get nutty and you're like you could become evander holyfield when you're living in a 110 room mansion that cost a million dollars a year to keep the electricity on i mean that's people can get like that yeah there's a i saw a fucking uh a piece of real estate online the other day that was a house for 40 fucking million dollars and i was looking at this house i was like that is the craziest fucking shit i've ever seen in my life but somewhere there's a dude is like i'm ready to take it to the next level i'm here with this

10 million dollar house it's a piece of shit to me yeah i'm ready to move up it's like an international i want to be at the top monetary gangster type motherfucker with some serious shackles top of the tree there's a great website check it out awesome blog rich kids of instagram have you seen this shit no dude google that look at the receipts oh these blog rich kids of instagram have you seen this no dude google that look at the receipts these rich kids they put receipts they take pictures of receipts hundred and three thousand dollar dinners with like what yeah the kids yeah rich kids of instagram check it out why must you do this to me duncan i apologize but it's amazing it's an amazing website man inflatable wow it's like the first uh when I wrote Rich Kids of Instagram, it's like one of the first.

It's a beautiful site, dude. And they're saying they're going to have to try to keep their kids from posting this shit on Instagram. Really? Because it's a security threat. So it is a website, Instagram.com, RichKidsOfInstagram.com? Yeah. Oh, there it is. Oh, my God.

This is awesome. It's amazing. They have a giant bottle of Moe. Just scroll down. Four gallons awesome. It's amazing. They have a giant bottle of Moet. Just scroll down. Four gallons of Moet. Yeah. Dude, get to the receipt. Just scroll down.

There's a $103,000 receipt in there. Wow. The girl's chilling in a mansion. She's a little kid. Yeah. I can't find any receipts, but they got some dope-ass houses. Yes, they do. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Those guys live in a fucking castle. Yeah, they live in castles. It must be really hard to be like, yeah, here he is. One hundred and seventy thousand. Put the receipt online. What a douche bag. But Cokes are like ten bucks.

Centro pay. Yeah. Cappuccino is twelve dollars. Coca-Cola is twenty dollars. Oh oh ten dollars two coca-colas ten dollars each but it's like crazy wines dom perignon four thousand dollars um another dom five thousand dollars oh my god it's crazy 107 grand yeah for dinner what's the tip uh it doesn't show i know it just says,000. It's got to be in Central. Maybe in Central Pay you don't tip.

Maybe it's one of those weird places. There's a lot of places where you don't tip. Right. You know? Or you do. I mean, you can. I do. But they don't expect it.

I'm sure the waiter gets taken care of at a restaurant that has $107,000 dinners. Maybe. But when you have $40,000. I said $4,000. I'm sorry. I meant $40,000. The Dom Perignon is $40,000. So is the other one. It's not $5,000. I said $4,000. I'm sorry. I meant $40,000. The Dom Perignon, it's $40,000. So is the other one.

It's not $5,000. It's $50,000. Yeah. That's why it's so high. That's fucking incredible. You can buy a bottle of something for $50,000? Sure. Are we sure it's dollars?

It's not you can buy it. You can sell it. That's the hopeful aspect of it. There's dipshits out there who are going to pay $50,000 for your goddamn carbonated grape juice. How dumb is that? That's awesome! Isn't that the craziest thing of all time? That someone would actually spend that much money? I mean, how good could it be?

There's no way it can be. It can't be. It's probably not even as good as Kool-Aid. Kool-Aid is fucking delicious. Especially if you're really thirsty. It's sweet. It's delicious. Dude, if I'm paying forty thousand dollars for something that shit better come out of the fucking some frozen vault of sandoz laboratories it better be some fucking they better be the acid that hoffman first generated and stored in a crystal

vial somewhere deep under the pentagon that even that and maybe that would be worth fifty thousand dollars because it would be so life-changing yeah yeah it's kind of silly man it's kind of the the weird thing with wine wine is such a strange beverage those people that get together and work on the tastes of it and they have educated palates and some of them like they they become you know like high-level sommeliers they can like detect like where the grapes are from but just by tasting a glass of wine dude it's weird it's fucking weird but it's i mean definitely like when i went up to like i went up to fucking solving once to like get to drink like wine from the vineyards and yeah it's awesome dude it's incredible the variations and the taste and the like the beauty of the set of the terrain it's like a really beautiful thing man it's like what's it like up there is it different what's the climate

like i think when we were there it was hot as i recall man summer it was summer and we got this you get like cars to drive around because you're gonna get trash going to the vineyard slurping all that wine and our goddamn driver was like an AA dude. It's like, so our driver's this sober guy driving us to the vineyards, and you felt kind of guilty by the end of the day because you're just like in the back of the goddamn car with like crusty red wine all over your lips, like wanting to puke. How much wine did you drink over the course of a day?

Oh, God. There's no telling. I didn't have to worry about a dui and i was taking marijuana tincture at the same time so what do you think you drank a half a gallon maybe oh yeah easily a half a gallon of wine i would imagine like they just it's pretty free people must be falling down left and right oh they're trashed and by the end of the day you're like slurring your words gesturing at like things on the menu barely talk i can't i can never do that just you don't have to get i can't i can't well i can't get drunk at dinner ever because then i'm going to come home to

the kids i never want to be drunk around my kids see that's why it's good to have kids man god damn it the older i get the more inhuman i feel because i don't have a sweet little baby oh i'd love a little tot yeah i'm sure you would but you you first of all have to have a relationship with a person what deep deep relationship with the person you know each other very very very well yeah and you enjoy each other very much and if you don't you're fucked and then it's uh becomes a nightmare but you know keeps you from coming home drunk that's for fuck sure no it doesn't it doesn't keep a lot of people well they're fools a lot of people it does not keep from going yeah i i think uh it's you should not be impaired around your kid dude

have you seen that picture of the baby sleeping under the bar stool? Have you ever seen that picture? I don't want to hear about it. Fucking dragging the kid to the bar. I don't even want to hear about it, dude. There's so many people that just fucking get a shit roll of the dice, and they're born into a family full of dummies. Dummies doing dumb things.

Yeah, man. It's a bit of a problem. I wonder if things are really changing, duncan the way i feel like they're changing i wonder if it's just my circle of people and i wonder if it's just the people that we come in contact with through the podcast and through twitter that all the positive people i wonder how much the world shares in the sort of the the vibe that we that we feel and that we're riding and i always wonder if that is what if putting that out there if if it's possible that we can get our together by using the internet by using podcasts by using you know uh different ways to communicate to each other that we can somehow another all be reached

and all get our shit together in this generation more so than anybody's ever done before. Well, you know, man, I mean, I think that there has to be a, you know, everyone has to keep using the technology. It's like, dude, like when I went to fucking Cincinnati, this guy, I met this awesome guy named Izzy, who started his own podcast from listening to your podcast and listening to my podcast. He started his own podcast from listening to your podcast and listening to my podcast he started his own podcast called tales from the hard side and he can't side yeah but he was no man he definitely is like a fucking kind of like a rip dude like he's definitely like had a awesome a very fascinating life but you know the point is he start like he he listened to this and then he

started doing he started his own podcast and and and like he's like there's like a group of them who hang out together now from like listening to your podcast and from listening to my podcast and they started their own fucking podcast which is a kind of cool thing fuck yeah because it's spreading it's spreading it more you know it's like it's like people the bottom line is you can't get hierarchical with your geography because a lot of people are like you know i just live in pennsylvania there's no one here to have a good conversation with her wherever the fuck they say they live it's like i guarantee you're surrounded by people who want to talk about philosophical

shit and want to connect with someone on a level deeper than just what you had for lunch and what the what you know what fucking clothes are cool or movies or whatever you say that but unless you're in a city that's probably not the case dude i was just in well you know i yeah that i i depending on how old you are especially man all we all i know is that like i don't want to sound like too like weirdly patting myself on the back but it's you too like when you go to these fucking shows dude there's thousands of fucking people there and when you talk to them after the show they're all really fucking cool and they didn't all just come from metropolitan areas these people are coming from different sure towns and cities and and they have but they have access to us

they don't they might not have access to people near them is what i'm saying that also sharing those interests it might not be anybody around them like that. You might think there is, but unless they're in a really large area where there's a lot of people to choose from, you might not be correct. It takes a lot of people, a lot of focus, to get the group of 2,000 people that will come to see one of our shows. You've got to go through hundreds of thousands of regular people to find those 2,000 disenfranchised people that really want to say, Fuck yeah, Duncan Trussell. Bust out a little hobo, bitch. The people that listen to this podcast, the people that...

Look, I've had people come up to me and say, I hate the word cunt. And then I loved your podcast. The first time I heard you say cunt, it bugged me. But now I say it every day. Now everything's a cunt. Everyone's a cunt. She's a cunt.

This is a cunt. My cat's a cunt. My sister's a cunt. And it just but now i say it every day now everything's a cunt everyone's a cunt she's a cunt this is a cunt my cat's a cunt my sister's a cunt and it just becomes a part of your vernacular and that's i'm nothing i'm proud of but that's the type of thing that can happen and if it can happen with something bad or stupid ridiculous like the word cunt it can happen with any sort of idea any idea can get through because of a podcast, like the idea of treating each other really as if we are ourselves living in another life. The idea of recognizing that this really is a temporary situation. Temporary situation, and you need to live it. You need to live this bitch up, okay? Because you're not going to feel good unless you do.

If you hang back and be that guy that you described earlier who's 30 well wait till i'm 40 i'll get my shit together and then 40 and i still have a career but hey man i got a good job i'm gonna keep it for a little while maybe i'm gonna learn how to be an apprentice yeah and then one day he's dead just ride and keel over then it could be a guy like you a guy who's gone on peaks valleys and had dry spots and and now is riding this new crazy wave where you sort of just figured out how to get on the board and really fucking travel yeah yeah that's a fucking cool thing man is because it's right there and it just requires a kind of like uh um you just have to fucking it's really so the thing is it's so fucking simple it's like but it's not it's not because to have access to people is not simple by any stretch of the imagination.

To have the right ideas, sure. But in order to get those ideas in front of people, that takes a heroic effort. Man, the thing that I'm hesitating to say, because I don't want it to sound fucking culty, is I really do think that people can organize. I do believe that wherever you're at, man, there's got to be something. There's ways that you could fucking figure out other people who have this kind of interest that we talk about here. Well, I think through Twitter, that's one way. When you find out people that are interested in the same kind of shows that you're interested in,

and you find out that you're in Utah, hey, where's the cool motherfuckers up in Tallahassee? And you put that up on Twitter and put Tallahassee as a hashtag. Actually, now people are doing it back and forth. That's it, dude. It's really fucking important because it's not just good enough to exist in fucking digital space with people. It's like something

about getting into fucking meat space with people and exchanging ideas and being around people. It kind of shines a light in the shadowy darkness that can come into you if you've isolated yourself because you feel like you're a psychotic Freak with insane ideas Yeah You know instead of realizing like no man a lot of people are thinking this shit right now a lot of people are a lot Of people willing to entertain all sorts of alternative ideas. You'd be amazed and they're around you

Yeah, like my girl boy Matt Staggs living down and where's he Mississippi or some? to entertain all sorts of alternative ideas you'd be amazed and they're around you you know like like our boy matt staggs living down in uh where's he mississippi or some shit tennessee something like that yeah which nashville is in tennessee tennessee is awesome spots as does mississippi but you know he doesn't want to be there anymore let's like let's get out of there the internet the internet well i think staggs is definitely like uh on the precipice of some crazy shit happening. Because he's definitely becoming a conduit for a lot of crazy ideas. And he always hooks me up with great guests. Yeah, and he's running the Disinfo podcast, too.

Yeah, so that's happening. He's supposed to do that soon. I have to get with him. Yeah, we're living in a strange time of transition. I'm really curious to see. I think the whole Terrence McKenna 2012 thing is like, I always laughed. I always thought it would be really cool if it was true.

But I'm way too stupid to really understand any of the science behind it, even if it's real or not, or the arguments behind it. I saw the Watson disagreement disagreement i think it was called the watson objection watson objection was a mathematician who deciphered the time wave zero novelty theory and had his own objection to it fucking they both lost me within the first paragraph i was like i don't know what the fuck you're saying there's also less complex mathematical refutations the theory and i've heard that just like you know leap year wasn't accounted for so 2012 happened some time ago right so it's like you know the the again but though this is like people getting caught up in the surface level shit and trying to like no no

it's not going to happen on december 21st 2012 and trying to like but it's like no look what's happening around you i wonder if what they they calculated when they calculated the Mayan calendars, besides the eclipse of the moon, eclipse of the sun, I wonder if they could calculate how long it would take for a culture to grow before it imploded. I wonder if there's just a set number. A culture can only last for, it's like you can run and then you fall down yeah and they figured that out a long time ago good for like these 10 000 year pulses or whatever the fuck it is no there's a there's a guy he's a easy if you i bet if you googled extinction theorist right now that's what he's called he's a he's a he's also the guy who's like into simulation theory too um and he's you know he tries to answer that question while we haven't

encountered alien species and it is this notion that they implode in on themselves I can't worse it's on YouTube I wish I could remember his fucking name he's brilliant I put a clip of him on one of my podcasts when the same podcast that I was talking about the guy from the University of Maryland because he was he was he was the one who was talking about the idea of vivisecting the human brain or slicing it into um fucking uh thin thin layers to scan the neurology i've got no extinction theorist shit man i can't remember his fucking name he's brilliant there's evolutionary theory of course but um last dinosaur extinction theory no if you look up simulation theory and like extinction theory like studies this shit it's a really weird like ways that we can ways that our

species could blink out oh so so many ways anyway what the fuck is his name? It's goddamn brilliant. Have you seen the impact of meteors? A meteor shower all over the world they discovered 12,000 years ago? You told me about this shit. The sedimentary layers. They've done core samples and it's the same spot all over the globe.

It's the same sort of shit that exists when you have nuclear bombs going off. It makes like a glass. The world got pelted by giant chunks of rock explode think of the sound of that bursting through breaking the sound barrier as it goes rocketing down into the earth boom boom that must have been up man i wonder if they had writing back then. Because I don't know if we know that they had writing 12,000 years ago. I know it all depended upon whether or not that event, that 12,000-year-old event,

was really the sort of mass extinction event that Graham Hancock and a lot of people think might have happened to human culture, to humankind rather the human species Because they they you know There's a lot of speculation about like when is the oldest civilization and they pretty much settle on Mesopotamia They settle on like Sumer but the the the Sumerian text details a long-lost Civilization an older advanced civilization like the kind of all do they all talk about some dudes existed before I really had it down yeah and Samara was supposed to be like six thousand ish years ago so imagine if that's what it was it's a six thousand year trek from the time that they got pelted which we can wrap our heads around how long that is that's so long ago but yet nothing you know in

the greater spectrum of the universe, nothing. But in the idea of our lifetime, 6,000 years is a long fucking time ago. And they talked about an old civilization, an old ancient civilization that existed that was wiped out. The Epic of Gilgamesh, which is essentially very similar to the Noah's Ark story about cataclysmics. The flood. Yeah, floods. Yeah, they probably experienced some fucking nutty shit, man. Probably killed almost everybody.

That probably explains a lot of shit. A lot of shit all over the world, like Gobekli Tepe, all these weird structures that they're finding from pre-12,000 years. Gobekli Tepe is 14,000 years ago. That means in Sumer, the really old shit in Sumer is like 6,000 plus years ago, 7,000 plus years ago. This is double that.

So this is as old to Sumer as we are to Sumer, as Sumer is to us. That's fucked. That's the distance. That's so heavy the distance of people writing on clay tablets in scratches in these little scratches up and down and sideways that was their whole language and the idea that they wrote of something from 7 000 years previous

maybe and that's what gobekli tepe shows it shows that there was a sophisticated civilization from 7 000 years prior to the the people in sumer and the people in mesopotamia 7 000 years earlier they were making these 19 foot tall gigantic stone columns they were carved with animals that were carved in a relief so that like they stuck out which is a really sophisticated method of carving you're not carving into the stone you're actually making a relief it sticks out so you chipped all the rest of the stone away to reveal this frog and to reveal this bird this is really sophisticated stuff it's hard for people to wrap their heads around it so when they start talking about like hunter and gatherers from you know wearing skins around their dick that these are the ones that built this boy i don't know i don't know this is a you you might have more evidence of the fact that there might have been

some really super advanced cultures that got fucking pelted just wiped out everybody no talking anymoreanged languages. No fucking written shit. The dark times. The fucking road. It was like the road. Worse. Nuclear ash falling down. Just fucking decimation.

Well, by studying genetics, I believe that they've found several extinction events in the human genome. Like they've isolated several events i don't understand the science behind this so i really am talking like extremely deep out of my ass but i believe they've shown that um when studying the the the dna from different human beings of all over the world they've concluded that there have been several times where the human species has gotten very low as low as like a few thousand people and that you know we probably had a big number and then a much smaller number and it got as low as a few thousand people and then we had to recover it's fucking amazing it's amazing what

they found out just by studying genes you know well isn't this kind of like that one of the ideas of like the the freemasons or the rosy crucians or the secret societies is that the information from a very long time ago has been kept secret and is like, but they kind of work signs to each other. They work symbols into the architecture of society, which is that fucking crazy goddamn, you look at this the the street configurations of Washington DC have you seen that shit where it's like a anatomically correct eyeball looking out over a pyramid just like the eye and the dollar bill I mean come on dude how do you how would you describe that if I was gonna Google that Masonic symbols and DC I don't know washington dc masonic washington dc road roads i guess i don't

know i'm fucking a little too stoned to google i'm gonna go with masonic symbols in dc yep here it is yeah the um they have it laid out yeah wow i mean that's that's like you gotta really believe you have a pentagram yeah there's a pentagram in there there's a a fucking optic so so strange yeah there's an eye there's an optic nerve and i there's a pentagram it's real weird when you look at like the money and you see the fucking all-seeing eye in a pyramid on you know the cap of the pyramid is the all-seeing eye like what are you saying i mean look man printing it on money okay but how about putting it into the goddamn geography of the fucking capital of the country that you made trying to embody the ideals that

you know you knew and you encoded into the fucking very patterns. I mean, look, man, there's a goddamn monolith, the Washington Monument, an obelisk, an Egyptian fucking obelisk rising up out of our nation's capital. Yeah. Remember how the Egyptians helped with the Revolutionary War? Oh, yeah, they were there for us. Yeah, they came over. They provided us with... yeah they came over they provided us with uh uh what's what's even crazier is that egypt at one point in time was thriving and then it just was nothing there like they they showed up and the sphinx was like covered up to its neck like during the age of napoleon when they when they first

yeah found that it was like everything was abandoned they'd already looted all these different tombs who knows how much really incredible shit was melted down for gold baubles and shit when they didn't understand historical worth. Well, I mean, dude, one thing that over time, that time has proven again and again and again, is that shit doesn't always work out great

for the smart people with good ideas. You end up getting thrown into basements by dumb people who are like what the fuck are you talking about galileo they end up imprisoning you sometimes they crucify you sometimes they embarrass you sometimes they take away your property so over time really smart people were like you know what why don't we just fucking keep this shit to ourselves? Well, you know, that's the theory behind mushrooms and the church. That's the theory. I mean, a lot of this was Jan Ervin's work and another dude who died who turned out to be a child molester.

But he did a lot of really good work with mushrooms, with the historical. And he was writing a book with jack harrow when he got arrested for being a child molester this guy fucked up jack harrow because it fucked up the research and it really like sort of invalidated and a lot of people's ideas like this work this guy had done um but they have so many images and photos of ancient religious art that involve mushroom symbolism where you looked at it over and over and over again, and you're like, oh my God, this is so obvious.

First of all, the halos, the halos did not look like the frisbee thing. The hula hoop, they looked like a mushroom cap, and they were circular behind the person's head, and the idea was to insinuate that that person, that holy person, was under the influence of God, under the influence of the mushroom. Yes, and that's totally believable, and that makes a lot of sense. Totally believable. And the influence of the mushroom yes and that's totally

believable and that makes a lot of absolutely believable and the images of the doors they're shaped like mushrooms doorways are shaped like one is mushroom symbolism and so many different places and there were so many images of people in bliss naked in bliss covered in a mushroom they would be in a transparent mushroom these are like fucking ancient paintings man well i mean yeah it's definitely like that we we do know that they're encoded into the fucking framework of our society and the goddamn architecture of our society are some very odd symbols like if you look at the um uh the cathedrals you will find gnostic symbols chicken gods abraxis you can see abraxis in some cathedrals what is a chicken god it's some gnostic fucking god you can wikipedia abraxis it's this happens to be the same name of the company

doing this goddamn trap wire shit too no way yeah look up abraxis gnostic abraxis a chicken how do you spell it a b r a a braxis abraxis abraxis gnostic wikipedia Abraxas. Abraxas. Gnostic. Wikipedia. For some reason, the creepiest goddamn information-gathering surveillance company that's ever climbed out of the shadows or been exposed happened to name themselves after a Gnostic god with a chicken head. What the fuck, man? Yeah, go figure. A chicken god. Well, this thing is freaky-looking. Yeah, it's freaky chicken god. Well, this thing is freaky looking.

Yeah, it's freaky looking. And that's in cathedrals. A lot of these symbols, the cathedrals were apparently, I read this in, I can't remember the name. It's one of Graham Hancock's books that fucking Stagg sent me because he's trying to drive me insane. stag sent me because he's trying to drive me insane but one of the but but but um but yeah like in in this fucking book it talks about how the cathedrals were like a nexus where um uh doesn't show it as a chicken man shows it as a man i've seen the one with a chicken it's definitely a chicken oh that's weird because this one uh this image is a man look google abraxis chicken okay best gnostic chicken in

fucking Nashville it's a great name for a fucking chicken it is a braxis chicken chicken God chicken God yeah just a braxis chicken it's got chicken head no I'm looking at my looking for chicken braxis it comes up right away let's see a braxis it comes up do an image search but the chicken doesn't come up doing an image oh yeah and the images is one of them where it looks like a chicken it's a fucking chicken well it's crazy though it's a chicken holding a a whip a mallet yeah what are those things a shield on one side wow what a fucking freak animal yeah it's freaky jesus christ and what what year is this from i have no idea so they were high when they came up with that right yeah there's no other a chicken with a shield

chicken god how are you gonna you're definitely baked if you're drawing a chicken with a shield this chicken god wow there's all these crazy images of it where it looked like a harpy or something. No, read the Wikipedia entry a little bit, because Gnostic shit's very strange. Just read a little passage from there, because it's really odd. It's real mysterious. Abraxas. Abraxas. Far more common in the sources than the variant from Abraxas. A different Abraxas. Abraxas. Far more common in the sources than the variant from Abraxas.

A different Abraxas. Oh, they're using Greek letters. The word of mystic meaning in the system of the Gnostic baselines. Baselines. B-A-S-I-L-I-D-E-S. Being there applied to the great Archon. A-R-C-R-O-N. Archon a our serum Archon one of the greatest c64 games are really Gnostic cosmology blah blah blah the seven

letters spelling its name represent each of the seven classic planets Wow the Nate the words of its the letters represent planets the Sun the Moon Mercury Venus Mars Jupiter and Saturn the word was found in Gnostic tech