The Joe Rogan Experience - #2558 - Tyler Engle

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

Tyler Engle is a musician, researcher, author, and host of the "BassForge" YouTube channel.www.youtube.com/@BassForge_ushttps://bassforge.us Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Visit https://ketone.com/Rogan for 30% OFF, or find Ketone-IQ at Target nationwide. Use code DRENCHED at https://BlueChew.com  to get 10% OFF + Free Overnight Shipping on your first order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Tyler. What's up? What's happening, brother? Thank you very much for being here. I love your fucking Instagram.

You have a rabbit hole of an Instagram, dude. It's so good. Your latest one on Noah's Ark is really fucking interesting because I knew about the scans, but I did not know about the connections to the Samarian text. and how he was referred to on the Kings list. Yeah. Yeah. Let's, I send it to you, Jamie, just to start off,

because I want to really blow up your Instagram because it's so good, dude. Thanks, man. My pleasure. It's so many times where I'm doom scrolling. I find that, I'm like, oh, I'm learning something. This is justifiable. So this is, it's called baseforge.

That's Tyler's Instagram. And this is all about these new scans. And they dug into it. it today, I think. Today or yesterday. It's been two days. They think that they hit petrified wood, which is really interesting. This whole thing is very weird, but let's just hit this. New scans from Turkey, Mount Ararat, the Noah's Ark location. They got a new little drone out there that's using the same technology that they used to find the Hawara Labyrinth in Egypt recently. Mind you, both of these were not taken seriously by the mainstream. I'm still skeptical, but the evidence is

getting a little overwhelming. Because the earth is not lying. Mount Ararat is almost 17,000 feet high, straddled by two of the saltiest lakes on earth and a dry one to the south. How did it get there? Most people confuse the flood with the younger dryest event. That is way too far back in history. The nearby town of Sharupak was buried in 50 feet of mud.

That mud was dated very close to the mud that is covering this structure. But Sharupak is very interesting. That is where Noah was from. The ancient Sumerians, called Noah Zayasudra. The last king on the Sumerian king's list before the flood. These guys were a megalithic culture, meaning they could work really big, really hard rocks. Their temples are so destroyed, there are 10 ton stones just laying out in the middle of nowhere that got thrown off the top of a mountain. But that's very important because these guys could

work really big stones. And right by the sight of this arc are these things. What are these things? These are called drog stones. You see the hole in the top of them? You fit a rope or a chain through that. They're anchor stones. They're found in ancient Greek and Roman ports. What they would do is suspend them off of the boat to keep it stable in rocky water or anchored. Nozart didn't have a mast or anything to steer it. It was the largest ship ever built and meant only to survive this one event. They'd need to be that big for a ship that large. And those dimensions are exceptionally close to what we see in the ground. I put this site and the temples in Hidden History, Free Update, Explore it.

For real, though, how much more evidence do we need? Just dig the thing out. Well, I think they are trying to at least slowly excavate that area and figure out what it is. But just the story itself, it seems, like, as written, so preposterous that all of the animals on Earth were put on, you know, two of each on a boat. And then the flood came and then afterwards they repopulated the Earth. Yeah. It seems like a ridiculous simplification of something that was. probably at least somewhat true.

I don't think that they had all the animals on the boat because that doesn't make any sense. There's not enough room. You know, animals eat other animals. There's a lot of... But it does seem like there was some, probably multiple events throughout history, but some sort of an event that they're documenting. That one's well documented, actually. The one in Turkey was...

The flood. Yeah, 3,000 BC or so, I think was the... Around that area. There was multiple, and that's where you see all this... like the Temple of Ionis, that whole region there has flood evidence. Right. But it's not Younger Dry as flood evidence. But it's also probably not global.

It's not. That's what that's, I think, an important distinction that a lot of these places make is they have similar stories, but they probably weren't the same day. You know? Right. It could have been sequential. Like some events going to happen somewhere and cause this. And then another one's going to happen over here and cause this. But the Mediterranean area, that area is very unique because it's, basically.

basically surrounded by mountains, right? Like there's this giant from Iran to all the way to Greece, mountain range. Right. So how does it have a saltwater lake? That's what. So Lake Van is really interesting because Lake Van has like a volcanic origin, right? There's a volcano underneath it. And so there's like mineral deposits there.

But it's one of the saltiest lakes around. You know, the Dead Sea is really close to it as well. What about the Great Salt Lake in Utah? I don't. I think it's a little, I think it's a little. It's a soda lake. So Lake Van is a soda. It's like carbonate.

And then the great salt lake is like pure salt lake, same as a Dead Sea. Right. So those are two different distinctions. This is like, this is definitely more of a Randall area over than my area. But I like, I like mixing these different things in because all the, all the stories are pointing to the same, you know, that same origin. And that's where the Ziasudra thing comes in. So most likely it was probably a semi-local event, like contained to Turkey. And just their version of the world, what was what was around them.

So when they were, right? You know what I mean? Like, they don't know what's happening in China. No. How could they? You know, they have no idea what's going on in the Philippines. And it's wiped out. Like, your whole world is gone.

Right. If everything you see around you is barren wasteland because you got tsunamis, like, the world's over. Right. And that's what you're going to put on the rock. So the question is, was it a real event? And if it was a real event, how the hell did this Noah guy know it was coming? that's where things get real weird because if we talk even if it's just a local event

even if it's a local event I mean by local I'm talking about like the continent or at least the area of Turkey so even if it was a local event how the hell is this guy know to enough that he spends years constructing this boat this massive boat the biggest boat

that had ever been built at the time and gets all these animals on it going we're fucked in about three years. I gotta get to work. Let's accelerate this process. Wasn't there, who fucking did a movie? Wasn't there a movie recently?

Wasn't it a Russell Crow movie? Yeah, yeah. That's right. I didn't see that. I actually liked it because they get a lot of the lore in there, like the old, old lore, you know, of the Nephilim and all that stuff. Oh, really? The intro to the movie.

Yeah, just watch the intro to that thing if you're curious. They do this whole backstory on it. It's really cool. So many things that I used to think were nonsense. The Nephlenza? Yeah. And now I'm like, hey, the giant stuff for sure. Giants for sure.

I am almost all in on giants. I think we're all almost all in there. Yeah, it just seems like there's too much, there's just too many stories. There's too many tales. I don't know what it means. Like, does it mean the mountain from Game of Thrones? You know what I mean? Like, that's a giant, especially compared to me.

That guy's standing next to me, like Brian Shaw. Do you know what Brian Shaw's? Brian Shaw was in the mothership the other day He's 400 fucking pounds He's like seven feet tall He's the biggest fucking human you've ever seen in your life His bone structure is so dense That he is one of

I think it's what I think there's like five or six people on earth That have the same density of bone as this guy No it's some insane number Some insane number It's like one out of five hundred 100 million people have his bone structure. Where does that genetic come from?

Right. Where are we getting that? But I'm saying, is it that? Is it just exceptional genetics? Like we have today, we have pygmy tribes. And yet we also have the Maasai. Right. So we have these seven foot tall people and we have these three feet tall or four feet tall people.

So like what are we talking about? Are we talking about a different species of human? Because now we keep finding these new species of human. Like the Denisovans You saw the new The new research on that now? How big they were as fuck So like

And tell people about that research If humans were Okay so they found I think of a complete skeleton If I'm not mistaken Of the Deniso which was I don't think they found a complete skeleton It was it was the more complete one

Than they had before Yeah I think they just have pieces If I'm correct I don't think we have a full one yet But the proportionally Like they are definitely They were bigger than us Well just the skulls alone

The skulls are huge The skulls are massive. It's like a Brian Shaw skull. Brian's gonna be like, what the fuck? This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. You can get almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Sorry, you can't get a beach delivered, but you can get a peach. A canoe?

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Who wouldn't like being that fucking big, man? You're right, you're right. Okay, Dennis Sullivan's towered over their contemporaries and munched a bunch of meat. Of course. That's how you get so big. So how big did they think they were? I thought it was like seven foot something, maybe. Interesting.

Right? So and this is like the ones we found right? So like if you only found like my body You would say oh humans you know, we're under like somewhere around five foot eight five foot seven Yeah maybe they got to about five foot nine and then you see Shaq's body and you go oh okay well this is not real Clearly what's going on this is a different species You would think like we only have a small amount of fossilized record you know of just human beings like we keep finding these and Like the Denisovans, I think they just found them 10 years ago. Or less, less than 10 years ago. And they keep getting older, too.

That's the thing. Like, it keeps getting pushed back for Homo sapiens as well as finding new versions of them. Yes. So it says here, Neanderthal men average about 168. Why are they doing it in centimeters? Why are you fucking with me? Denisovins towered at 190 centimeters. What does that mean, Jamie?

What's 190 centimeters? Freedom units. Here, I'll ask my phone. What is 190 centimeters in feet? 190 centimeters is 6.23 feet. Oh, I was right. Okay. Good job.

I said 60, but that'd be like 6. So that's pretty big for the time because people were, they, it was hard to get food. Yeah. Right? So it's hard to get the protein in order to get, like people during the Civil War were like 130 pounds. Like men were tiny because they were starving. And medieval, medieval people were a lot smaller. Yes, a lot smaller.

So it was, and it's basically a food thing. Yeah, yeah. So obviously this is a very big version of a human, especially considering the time. that it existed. But was that a giant where people all really tiny and they looked at that? Because like have you ever been to Italy and gone to some of the ancient structures in the castles? Not Italy. Not yet. Pretty dope. One of the things you notice is the armor is fucking tiny. Yeah. Tiny. Really? Like tiny. I've heard these things. It's weird. And how like they're the the shoes and stuff. They like it doesn't look like they can. could fit into the proportions of them.

Well, they're 80-bitty people. Yeah. So when I was there, I think it was a castle that we're at. I went to a bunch of different places. We went to Pompeii, went to Florence. I think it was in Florence. But this armor was like that narrow, like super slender and like little, like five-foot-five-ish, like tiny little dudes.

Because I think nobody had any food, man. I think it was hard to get the proper protein to, especially if you're a soldier. and you know you probably come from a poor class of people you probably didn't have access to enough food to grow right unless you got a lot of those guys and we kind of well you got a lot of those guys and also they're probably killing a lot of other people that are also similar small yeah you know yeah unless they run into the Vikings or the maybe the Egyptians

yeah well maybe the Egyptians right Xerxes yeah in the movie 300 so it's like he was Persian actually yeah yeah but it's like when you when you hear these stories, particularly the stories of the giants, and then you find out things like Denisovans. You go, okay, so we know that Denisovans existed. And when do they think they existed? What is the timeline? That article said that most bones, I think, are about 160,000, but radio carbon testing on,

I think the ones that they'd used for this study were maybe 45,000 years. Oh, that's crazy. Okay, so if they find, let's just think about that. So that's 120,000 years of discrepancy. Yeah. Right? That's nuts. That we never interacted with them too.

Right. For sure we interacted with them. Yeah, we definitely. 100% of their 45,000 or whatever it is. So then you got to think, well, this is only the bones we found, right? If you die, if I die, if Jamie dies, the odds of someone finding our bones somewhere, it's so small. It's like the fossil record of dinosaurs alone. Like dinosaurs live for fucking hundreds of millions.

of years. And what do we found like a few hundred thousand of them? We don't even have like a full skeleton on pretty much any of those. Like a hundred percent full? No, I don't think we have any really... We have pretty close ones. We have some really close T-Rex ones and some, you know, some that are real close. But the bottom line

is the amount that died versus the amount that we find is very small. So easily that could be the case of people. And if you're taking like the... And dragons. And dragons. We'll get to dragons later. Enjoy Bayhar. We're on it again, honey

Keep it rolling I fucking never take a dragon believer Off my profile I think that's awesome He believes in dragons Oh my God Why don't you? Why don't you?

Do some research Yeah There's something weird going on We're all throughout history People talk about giants And people talk about dragons Yep And then giants were apparently not real

And now we're finding those And then no his arc apparently Wasn't real We're finding that And all this stuff that's just not real And then was legend is now like, oh, yeah, that's obviously right there. I think very few of those stories were fiction.

And I think this is evident when they find things like Troy, you know, which Troy was thought to be a fairy tale, was thought to be fiction forever. And then they're like, oh, we actually found the city. Yeah. Wow. And also like back then it was so fucking difficult to write a book. You had to write it by hand. You had to know how to write it.

Yeah, and you don't know how to read. Yeah, nobody knew how to read or write? Yeah. And then you got to imagine, like, how many people are writing fiction? Who the fuck is reading it? Yeah. More likely, when you're around back then, it's important to write a detailed history of what has happened so that your future generations will have, they won't have to learn from scratch.

Yeah. You want accurate accuracy there. Yeah. That's another thing that throws a monkey wrench in the whole Egypt thing, too, is like, hieroglyphs appear fully formed and sophisticated. Right. It's not like there was a you can see the evolution of that you start at like old kingdom and it is flawless. It's like engineering language right there and where's the

Right how how how where does it start from so it's a group of five dudes over here like okay. We're gonna make the cartouche and we're gonna do this and this symbol means this no it just shows up Well the the idea that we have a we have a complete understanding of the past is just we should start from there because that's foolish Yeah and one of things that you detail so well is some of these temes and the sound that resonates out of these temples and some of them that are just carved right into a mountain with incredible precision and we don't understand how we don't really know when it's just kind of guesswork when yeah and we have no idea what equipment they used because it's not possible they did that with other rocks no so what did they do so that though the I made a Kylaasa temple video a couple weeks ago and it was like that's the one that's in India carved straight out of the mountain, right? Out of volcanic rock. The salt. Yeah.

It is insanely hard. I got so much blowback that that was soapstone or that was this stone. And there's a YouTube channel called Proto Civilization. They did this experiment where this dude took a pickax, hardened steel pickax. And they measured how much of volume they could remove from the mountain on, like behind Kailasa, like not near the temple. They remove like an area about this big, maybe that deep. They have the scans for it.

So you made like six inches. and like a half of a half inch deep. And how long do they work out of it? Four hours. And these dudes were huge. These dudes were gassed out. And it was only a six inch little thing. And they were doing the calculations.

Like, there's no way that the population, even working nonstop, could do that. And then they tried to destroy that temple. And you couldn't destroy the temple with the tools they had. So how did they make it? Didn't they have guys trying to destroy the temple? What was the timeline that they were trying to destroy the temple? It was like 100 guys for like two years. And they barely scratched it.

And that's what we still have left. Two years, a hundred dudes, non-stop. And they couldn't get anything done. It's really kind of funny. Because it begs the question, what was the technology? And we need to really open our minds to the possibility that there was a civilization that had achieved some sort of a technological sophistication that we don't understand. We don't know what the technology was. We don't know why they had it, what they did with it, but there was something going on.

And I think Ky Lassa is one of the best pieces of evidence that's like, you know, remember the Arsenio Hall show? Things that make you go home? This is a thing that make you go home. I mean, it's like, how did you do that? Guys, you know I'm into ketones and I rock with ketone IQ, but here's something that blew my mind. Throughout history, you see all these civilizations talking about fasting and how good it can be for your body and brain. I honestly feel sharper when I do it. That's because when you fast, your body starts making its backup fuel, ketones.

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Well, they have, the devil's in the details here, because if you look at it, Kailasa's unique. It's in the process of being finished. It's not finished at all. There's satellite temples that are being worked basically from the ground up, and you can see the construction process. It gets a little more detailed at the top. And then at the bottom, you can see the scraping tool marks. There's scrapes and scoops, right? But the scrapes, the penetration depth of the scrape is greater than a jackhammer that we have.

So a jackhammer, a hydraulic one that goes through the rock and takes it out of the rock wall, does not penetrate as deeply as the marks that are still in Kylosa. So something was, and the narrow, it's like you have to go sideways through it and the marks are there. So they were doing it somehow like in a narrow way. It's a narrow corridor with no light. Like as narrow as a human body or more narrow? It's it goes to a V. Can you go through it?

Yeah, it goes to a V. So you start, it starts wide, but you see the tool marks going all the way through it. So do you think that they started wide and then that's how they ved it out and then eventually got it parallel? Yeah. I think they, they were probably using a mixture of what we do today with with it. But I think their tool that they were doing, made it so much easier that the, like, the way that they could just go in there like that looks like it was no problem.

It looks like we were just, you know, what's that's. That's so insane to think about. And we are just so egocentric in our position that we are the most sophisticated culture that's ever existed on Earth. And I think there's a lot of evidence that that's not true. And the best evidence is the stone. Stone work is the best. To me, that's what got me into all of this is like, you know, obviously Graham stuff

and a bunch of like this community is there's a bunch of things that kind of shake your worldview up. But when I started looking into this, they were building the, Grand Egyptian Museum and they had to move the statue of Ramsey's. You know which one I'm talking about? The giant one. Yeah. So if you go to that museum, like the pictures don't do it justice, you're standing and

you're looking at his shin and there's like a pool around it, you know, I almost fell into the pool. You look at it. It's kind of hard to see. But yeah, you're staring at his shin and you look up and you're like, okay. In the cartoon, yeah, that's the one. So you barely come up to a shin. And, you know, Ramsey's put his thing on everything.

But like, it's funny that you look at his face and his face, that Egyptian face is a very generic face. It doesn't look like Ramsey's. If you look at Ramsey's as his mummy, it does not look like Ramsey's. So he did this a lot, though. He put his cartouche on literally everything in Egypt. Of course. But it's funny because when they moved this, they had to use an enormous truck with huge steel beams to solidify it. Yeah, that's the one.

Look at this thing. That's like. It's like, okay. Holy shit. Yeah. So, how many tons is this thing? Oh, dude, it's crazy.

I think it's in 200. It's out of granite. It's a big boy. 400 tons? What's that, Jim? It said 83 tons. 83 tons. So, but you have to assume that that the block that they had to get out of the quarry was at least 200 to get, you know, to remove the material around it and stuff.

So, but what I'm, what the point is, there has. to be a special road, a special trailer, a big truck, and all the stuff to move this thing. And that's us now. Now do that in no roads with just sand, putting water on the sand and rolling it on logs from Lebanon that are really not that compressively strong. So all of it to my engineering brain was just absurd. And so I keep having these things. And then like the Lackma Stone, the 300-ton boulder they put at the museum, you know,

the process they went through on a perfectly flat. I think Jimmy Corsetti was the one that brought that one up. And just having those examples is very eye-opening to the how what tool, what equipment, what, you know, it melts my brain, dude. And I went to school for this and I had to, you know, do a lot of these calculations. I worked in construction. I worked in building restoration. I've had to do all of these things. And you can't move like a boom lift on certain roads because it will cave the road in.

And those things don't weigh as much as a fucking Ramsey's. It's just so weird how these conventional archaeologists will dismiss any ideas that are outside of this linear timeline theory. And they were just really smart back then. They figured it out with copper tools and sand and this. It doesn't even make sense. None of it makes sense. They say they're really smart, but they also don't believe the mythology or the Kingslist or anything like that. It's a simultaneous, oh, they were super smart, but this stuff was imaginary.

Right. The stuff they put on the walls wasn't real. How they built it was real. It gets to a certain point where they can't explain it away and then they go into imagination. Instead of saying, hey, maybe we don't have a full picture of this. Like, me, look, what we can do today is so preposterous that it looks like magic to anybody that lived 200 years ago. We all know that. Like, just, I drove here in Tesla.

It goes zero to 60 in under two seconds. I press a button. It drives me home. Yeah. What? Imagine that. Explaining that to someone 200 years ago. I left the club last night and I was on the phone with the buddy of mine and I just pressed do doot and it just takes me home

I don't even have to pay attention you have a global communication device in your pocket right can access all the all the world's information and I'm on the phone with a guy who lives in Connecticut yeah and we're talking I mean the whole thing's crazy yeah wipe the earth's memory and then you're the only one that has a memory of this civilization try and explain that to somebody that doesn't you'd be they'd be like no imagine if you could find this technology 200 years from now after a nuclear war. And after people had been like using sticks and stones and fucking animal skins for clothes and then someone stumbles upon some bunker somewhere.

And inside there's intact computers and cell phones and satellite dishes. You'd be like, what the fuck is this stuff? This is magic. And then people would try to, for hundreds of years, try to back engineer it and explain it. You know? Like what? Okay, that's a perfect segue, though. Because you could have an instruction manual with those things, right?

I could tell you, I could make an instruction man. This is how you use this cell phone. Right. Memory is wiped, cataclysm, whatever happens. No one's going to be able to read English. Not only that. What if it's someone like me who finds that thing? And I'm like, what?

Huh? Who? Cell phone? Then you start worshipping it. Signal? What's a signal? It's in the air? Can you catch it with a net?

Yeah. It's preposterous. But there's, okay, the way I look at it, though, is the language that you have to read is the geometry. And that's why the tech comparisons are so powerful is because the geometry is guiding and routing signals and it's doing something. It's performing a function in your phone or your TV or whatever. And on a macro scale, that's exactly what they were doing too. You know, they were routing human behavior through temples. They were routing all this, you know, organization, societal organization and structure for these components.

So at a base level, they're doing the same. thing except you're kind of like the data packet you're the technology instead of the cell phone you know yeah yeah and then there's like whatever is going on with the pyramids in terms of like what the actual function of the pyramids was the you know obviously the conventional position is that those were tombs but you know this filippo beyondi stuff bondi or beyondie is beyondy am i saying is am i saying his name wrong uh he was a very interesting guy and very humble and you know didn't seem like he was using hyperbole when he was describing these things and he was talking about how many times they've done these scans yeah and

people would just want to dismiss that data and in fact they retracted his paper what yeah yeah the yeah there's like a big conscience he would find the controversy on that he just did the scan of the titanic and nailed it uh-huh not only that he's also done scans of existing structures in Egypt that they know that they've already mapped out. As a siding shaft. Exactly. And he got all the dimensions correct. So it's not like this stuff doesn't work.

And so if you've done repeated scans of this area, instead of dismissing it, I just don't understand why they're not all gathering around and wanting to have conversations with him and going to look at that stuff. It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either because if you discover this stuff, that's like an unlimited source of tourism. A hundred percent. Which, have you been to Egypt? No.

When you go there, you're going to walk on the plateau and you're going to be like, if I had a team of a hundred dudes, I could clear this thing in a couple months. Like the work is not the problem. That's really not it. It's the bottleneck of the bureaucracy. Yeah, bureaucracy. Yeah. Because the people that run it.

You go there and like there's vantage points of like that famous picture of the pyramids with all three of them, the camel walking by. That's like a vantage point where you can go and look at everything. You can see it with your eyes. without looking at the satellite. There's something under here. There's something under here. There's something under here. And then there's gateways into it everywhere.

All over the place. There's gated off doorways into the underground that's like right up the causeway. Ben's done a great job showing that. So it's, I think it's the, I don't want to say it's a fear. But like. It's ego. It's, yeah. It's human ego.

It's the fact they've been, they've been saying a certain thing. They have been laying out a certain narrative for a long time. And these guys, they teach this, their reputation is based on it. And one of the things that experts love to be is the gatekeeper of information. You know, if you try to talk to a gatekeeper of, you try to talk to an expert about something that you don't understand. Almost always, you're met with dismissal. No, no, no, no, no, you don't understand. Let me explain.

The Kingslist is all fiction. You don't, no, no, no, no, no. These were tombs. We know there are tombs. Let it go. Like, bitch, you don't know shit. You're just another human who's been looking at the, this thing. And by the way, this whole fucking, this whole just academia, academia, period,

is recent. Well, Eric Weinstein has done a great job in showing how, like, how gate kept that is. And I think there's a movement now where it's like, okay, well, you can say this, but we're going to show you the opposite. We're going to show you that it's, there's proof, there's overcuts in granite. There's all this weird stuff that we can't do today. The cultures say different stuff. than the history books say.

There's a disconnect. The drill holes. The drill holes. Yes. The disconnect is insane at this point. When I got into it, there was like a small hill of conspiracies when this was, you know, first coming in. What years did you get into this? Probably like 12 years ago.

Do you remember what got you? It was one Graham's book because I was. Fingerpins of the gods? Yep. I did high-rise window cleaning before this. Oh, my God. I've always said that's the fucking scariest job ever. I was terrified.

And before I did it, I kind of had a fear of heights, but I had to really get rid of that quick. How did you get that job? It kind of fell in my lap. I had a window cleaning business. My dad had done it for years before, so we'd clean, like, fast food restaurants and stuff. Make great money in high school. And then there's huge money in high-rise window cleaning. Because nobody wants to do it?

No one wants to do it. The insurance is crazy. Like, you have to have huge upfront cash to rent this equipment. Like, it's a wild business, but I had so much time. I would just put my headphones in. I would listen to books. And so I was hanging off of buildings listening to Graham and everybody. I would want to hear creaks and things.

Yeah. I would want to be like, like, groundy. If something starts giving out, I would want to be like razor sharp to all my, I'd want to have suction cups on my hands. It was one in, one out. It wasn't, I wasn't noise canceling that one. Yeah. Wow. So that's how you got into it.

Yeah, kind of. And then, like, magical Egypt. There was a show. Oh, yeah. John Anthony West. I had him on a couple times. I love his work. Oh, he was amazing.

So the people, it really resonated with the engineering type of mind sex. I went to college for computer engineering. And so when you explain it in that way, my brain just got a little tickled because I didn't really think there was anything going on in ancient history at all until I started looking into that. And then what really kicked it off was like the Lebanon Balbeck area. That stuff just smashed me in the face. That stuff is insane. Yeah.

The size of those stones is beyond. It's beyond comprehension. And the whole base of it, it's not just the trilithon, the whole base of it is stones that are upwards of 400 tons. And there's no record of it. That's what's really weird because the Romans kept meticulous records of the construction. And they have records of the construction in these buildings. They do not have a record of the construction of the base. Like whatever that was was probably ancient and probably there a long time before they ever started building.

on it. I think it's Phoenician, honestly. Phenician. Phoenician. Yeah. Phoenician Canaanites. So what year were we talking that? I think Balbek is pre-flood. I'm pretty convinced that it's pre-flood. Pre-flood, younger dryest flood? At least the base of it, because you can see there's like a, there's an outer wall and they're huge stones, and then there's the inner temple wall, right? There's a discoloration between the two.

Like one is clearly older than the other, at least in repairs. You can see clear layers of repair it, right? But the Canaanites, the Phoenician Canaanites were they helped build the Solomon's temple in Jerusalem. And in the underground of that temple is a stone that's damn near just as big as the troll-a-thon stones. It's just not open to the public. You don't see it a lot. Are there other photos online? Yeah. I think it's a Western wall, Jamie. It's, I don't know the estimates of it because I don't know how deep it is, but it looks enormous. And so they would help the Egyptians build to. So they were kind of like a contractor, essentially.

They were really good at sailing, navigation, and they could move really to big fucking rocks. And so the legends are linked kind of by the Templar tradition, if you know any of that back story. Not really. Timothy Hogan, the Knights Templar master. I've heard of it, but I don't know much about the history of it. So they kind of are the bridge informationally

between where all of this is coming from because they were the first ones to excavate in Jerusalem off the record. You know, they were, the Templars were supposed to guard pilgrims when they were, you know, going to the sacred sites. But that was like their front. And then the back was, we're excavating in Egypt and Jerusalem and you see their graffiti everywhere. There's Templar graffiti on Phile Temple in Egypt in a whole bunch of places in that, the Noah's Arkstones, the anchor stones. Those are Templar crosses. Those aren't Christian crosses. So it's the, it's the, the angled the angled cross

You know where the V's and they go in That's the Templar cross so their graffiti is kind of everywhere they went. That's where they would leave their mark saying that that's You know one to communicate to other Templars that this was a site that they've been to but also saying that there's something here that's important Jamie, did you find that? I'm not sure exactly which one I'm supposed to be on the screen. I don't know which one I don't know if that's it or No, you don't want to say Western Wallstone? No, I'm not sure exactly which one I'm supposed to be on the screen. I don't know if that's it or no. No, you don't want to say Western Wallstone. No, no. Jerusalem, Western Walls. Ballback is the...

That's like the... I don't think that's what you're looking for either. That's why I didn't look for that. Keep scrolling down there. That's the prayer wall. Maybe if you write huge stone? Yeah, just say a megalith, Western Wall Megalith. Yeah, that's one.

Okay. Whoa. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, the whole last Wikipedia page for it. It's not like a... Holy shit. It's not a secret or anything. Holy shit.

Yeah. That's the foundation of Solomon. simple. Holy shit. Look at the size of that. Oh my god. That's insane. Yeah. And they have more than that one. 11.5 feet tall, 41 feet long. And what is it made of? I don't know that one. I want to say it's limes. It looks like limestone. But 500 tons. Yep. Holy shit. I think Brian Forrester's picture was pretty good too. Oh my god That's just the exposed face is 44.5 feet long

Yeah The largest building block one of the largest building blocks in the world Whoa So prior estimates ranged up to 16.5 meters 550 is 600 tons Wow So that that range is the entire bottom of Balbex So what the connection there is

there's two. One is the builders from the Phoenician builders is the the there's like a guild that did this huge work. They leave traces in the stone though and they're they're called microspherals and it's a it's a reaction low energy nuclear reaction leaves these so like if you have a meteorite impact or the plasma new plasma physics like the the plasmoid science that's coming out now that stuff leaves these in the stone. So there's traces of plasma interaction in Balbek, in Jerusalem, in Iran,

and some at Saxe-Wamon. I've seen this on your page. Yeah. So I've seen this. What's this maybe it'd be a good thing to just go to that? Because you lay it out really well. Where is it on your page? Do you remember? It's fairly recent, right? It's just made a new one. Yeah. It has to do with the ringing rocks, too.

The ones that ring are... Which he's got it up there? Which one do you think it would be? In same plasma, anomalies found in ancient stone. That's... Well, no, that's the levitation one. The exotic metals, sorry, my bed. Yep. All right.

And this time it's not what's in the sand, it's what's in the rock. Exotic metals from the cutting tool have been found lodged inside the rock, and they're typically only found in asteroids and meteorites. They've also been found in megalithic sites all over the world. Back in February, I was in the largest and crispiest temple in all of Egypt. Crispi. I had watched this video by Versa Doko, and it was saying how these are unexplainable cut marks because the cuts are microscopically small. There is no reasonable explanation for a cut that sharp even today without lasers.

This research team got a sample and they were looking for exotic metals that the Egyptians did not have, which they found, but they also found these. Let me explain what these lines are. When we cut granite today, we use giant saws. These saws leave a circular tool mark like the stone my dog Harvey is guarding. What was found in the Karnak stones were perfectly straight lines, which means in layman's terms that something was cutting it more like butter than like a circular saw. Anytime you cut anything, it leaves a mark. Inside those marks are microscopic cracks where pieces of the tool can embed itself.

But that typically only happens with high speed rotation. So they got their hands on another sample from Dashore. This one has a sloping cut, which is insanely difficult to manufacture. In this one, they found three elements that are typically only used in the cooling circuits of nuclear reactors. When they compared this ancient cut to a modern cut of the same material, the only difference was the aged appearance. Now, the material they found the most of was copper. It was an alloy that the Egyptians could not have produced enough heat to make. The last guess was that they used chemical salts to intensify a natural reaction to create more heat.

To create the metal, they would need micrifice. would need microscopic precision in the mixture. That is something that we do for electronic circuits. Atomic level imperfections are introduced in silicon to produce transistors. But just by doing that, a simple rock gets transformed into something that can show you, me. But we haven't even got to the wildest part. Microsferals were also found in the samples. These only come from cosmic impacts, volcanoes, lightning strikes, geological processes, and human industrial processes. It happens when something gets really hot and cools really fast. These were found in Dachor, in Balbeck, in Iran, and pretty much everywhere that has megalithic architecture. Well, how do we rule out geology? Balbeck. A typical

meteorite, meteorites have about one per square meter. Balbeck had three per centimeter. One thing that can do this is something called cavitation. If you symmetrically compress a water bubble, it'll release energy. It's the main reason that propellers on boats get worn out so fast. Here you can see what happens in this gear. You can see it happening in this gear, but there's another way to do it. If you hit aluminum foil with ultrasonic frequencies, it creates these holes. With the right frequency, silver is a byproduct. Now there has been demonstrations of vibrating a rock and then putting a tube drill with weight on top of it and it will actually drill the hole itself. Now with water involved, there could be a cavitation effect going on there, but this has not been

studied. What is for sure is there is some atomic alchemy going on. This is on page C. This is on page 67 of Cryptex if you'd like to further explore that concept. There are two huge issues with the normal explanation. One, it does not make sense. Two, it does not fund the haircut that I desperately need. And that's... Glad a haircut, haircut ending made it. Well, the whole thing about the cutting of these things is we're trying to rationalize or we're trying to explain it away using what we use today. Yeah. And there's a very real possibility that technology was super advanced but in a different direction that we haven't pursued. If you think about like the directions that we pursued with internal combustion engines, electronics, electricity, all the different things that we use this technology today.

That's just the way we went with the ingenuity that human beings possessed. It doesn't mean that these people had to go that way. And it seems like they probably went a different way. and we don't really know what that way is. I think it's an easier way than we're doing it, though. Like, there's a lot of that science that I was just talking about there is a lot cheaper to run these experiments. You're familiar with John Hutchison? No.

So back in the 80s, he made this lab that he called the submarine. And it was just this amalgamation of Tesla coils and frequency generators. And he was monitoring like earth frequencies and cosmic stuff. And he was able to get objects to levitate and he was he could he could Basically gelify metal and embed metals within other metals and he was just messing around with some frequencies and Eventually his work got classified and he was kind of I think the Canadian government confiscated it and so that it was like shoved under the rug But his samples survived and so the samples that he had got Acquired by a guy named Bob Grinier and he's been doing

analysis on these things and he found the same microsferials that are in the ancient stones that the unexplainable ones in John Hutchison's samples so there's a link here between this plasma physics this low energy plasma physics and the the ancient stuff and the way we're going is very high energy physics like the large Hadron Collider like CERN that stuff is is enormously energy consuming Like the experiments they do there have to like shut power grids off, right? This stuff you can run in a room. Like it's just basically it's it's putting, manipulating plasma through matter in a symmetrical, geometric way. And it produces these really weird results.

And there's a lot of, and the best way to describe it is transmutation like old school ocumy. So, so here's the question. Like what were they using to make this happen? this is the so Bob explains it really well but I think I and I'm not like 100% on this but there was a tool

that we are mistaking for for an artifact if that makes sense there was a tool that doesn't look like a tool and I think what they were doing is you know the scoop mark tool like the one that you see in Egypt and everywhere else

it looks like something that you would it might be so simple is what I'm saying, that we don't recognize it as a tool. So within their system of doing things, whether it was generating power or frequencies that were able to be passed through the human body, because this plasma physics, like all this new stuff, the plasma can go through your body and not harm you. There's safe ways to do it. And if you can, if you can transmit it to an object, and this is where the ancient, like, cone stuff gets really, really interesting. Cone stuff. Yeah, so like the pine cone from the Sumerian stuff, the guy's giving a pine cone out.

There's these things called votive cones. Do you ever heard of those? No. Jay, look up, VOTIV cones. They would put these cones, they would, they put a cuneiform inscription on these cones, and they would embed them in the temple walls. It was basically like a cornerstone or like a consecration of the temple. And what they were, they don't look like they would be significant in any way to the construction process. But we see these cones all over the place.

That's it. Yeah. So basically they're, yeah, type of foundational deposit for important billions. Yeah, historical memory of the ruler in his achievements. But I don't, I think this is another misinterpretation. I would say, yeah, this is the Met Museum's official stance on. Yeah, of course. So what do you think this is?

So I think this is a way of focusing this type of energy. So the same rock would have to... That little thing is? Yeah. How big is that thing? That's like handheld. You could... So you think that stone with those writings on was how they focused energy?

So the way that this stuff works is it... They basically embed themselves in the stone. These little plasma objects are called plasmoids. They basically embed themselves. That's so cool looking. Look that writing, man. So bizarre. You know, Kinaiform too is, uh, or Sumerian is a language isolate.

There's no... It just appears. There's no... Precursory. Cuneiform is like English. Like it's a style of writing, but Sumerian, no precursor. Just here. Fucking weird.

Yeah. And so they have these things. And if you look at the, the megalithic work from the Sumerians, like the Temple of Ionis or Kef Kolesi, that stuff is the most precise. It's more precise than anything I've ever seen. It's A-Y-A-N-A-A-ionis. All right. That's right. It's close.

Which one is it? A-N-I-S. It's in Turkey or Anatolia. Yeah. See the geometry there? That basalt. Whoa. So the gray one, I think it's like Andesite or something.

The one above? No, no. If you zoom out, Jamie. It says, The Fortress of Aonis, Turkey, that one. Yeah. Those are very hard basalt, I believe. And they are completely buried. It's like the vast majority of this temple is utterly unrecognizable,

but they have the same polygonal masonry, same signature of everything we see around the ancient world. But yeah, Matt LaCore is actually doing some great boots on the ground work with this. He's got the, I think the only footage that I know of him walking around this place. So click that. No, go back one more. That one, Euritarians, Aonis. you're down or one more

there you go that one so you can clearly see that the like the style you know is exceptionally ancient and then you've got the same thing you see in Peru where the newer stuff the mud brick is on top of it and you know clear signature of this was exceptionally old

and so these cones this is the question what what are they doing how are they getting a stone cone to project energy? Like what is the process? What do they believe? What's the theory?

From my understanding, it's a resonance with the plasma itself. So it embeds itself in the rock when it goes to this process. And the sun can do this. Natural processes can do this and they do it all the time. There's a...

The phenomenon is a rock that rings. So it creates these little voids in the stone. The plasma goes through the stone and it eats away at the grain boundaries and it creates these little voids in the stone. And when you tap on the stone, stone and this is all over Egypt all the obelisk ring most of the central altars will ring and it is still it's the process isn't 100% worked out yet we're still trying to figure it out but what I from what

I understand is the the cones or a sharp object even your finger can do it like it's basically a sharp point is where charge accumulates right that's why that we have lightning rods on top of houses that is essentially a tool and if you have two of them you can kind of guide and position this and work the field that it's in it creates this thing called a monopole and it's you know magnets have two poles like a north-south a monopole has one pole and it's all it's a theoretical particle but it has one pole and it's embedded into this rock right but it bends the field around it bends the magnetic field of the earth around it. So if the cone or the tool that you're using resonates with that cavity of the stone,

then it can essentially move it around like a... Right, but where are they getting this energy from and how are they getting it into the rock? So that's what we're... That's kind of my process, what I'm trying to figure out with the whole temple network of things. Because when you connect, the basic idea of it is connecting the ground to the ionosphere. And if you create a bridge through geometry or temple, then you have a connection between those two. And then the hardware of that temple kind of routes that that signal. And then the signal can then be essentially broadcast out to other nodes in the network.

And that's where you're getting your, it's like a Wi-Fi, like a router. And so the process of making them, though, is you have to essentially pass this energy through the rock. You have to pass this plasma through the rock And it reconfigures The structure of it internally And one of those signatures is the ringing rocks That's why I made that the video How the fuck could they figure that out?

The divergent science That's what you're saying is they went down that path And it's honestly To me it's easier to understand than our science The way we're doing things I think we're kind of beaten We hit a dead end at some point We're kind of beating it over the head

Not like we're not making progress But this stuff seems to be the right way to do it and it seems like they everywhere knew it they could reconfigure this stuff and that it would explain a lot of things like i'm not a huge fan of the geopolymer theory of you know they pour these rocks because there's just too much evidence that they they were fit together like that but it would explain it because that jillification like i was saying with john hutchson's work with metals it does this to pretty much anything it can do it to to to rock to whatever you pass this thing through. It's it's almost like an intelligent system. I'm I'm probably

butchering a lot of this but like the sciences this is the newest frontier of of that research. And so how long do you think a civilization would have to exist before they went down this alternative route of technology where they could figure that out? This is where it gets probably have you heard of ringing rocks in Pennsylvania? Yeah. I have not. There's a park where there's fucking tons and tons of these rocks that people go and hit with hammers and they ring like bells. What?

And no one knows how, what I'm looking right now, no one knows how they got there or how they were formed. One website said Wedchcraft made them, which is obviously not real, but. The Native Americans used them. They would bring them to some of their sites, sacred sites. Well, what is that rock made out of?

Does it does that? Ringing rocks, period of a thousand years, These boulders were formed erosion activation of water. A rare geological experience awaits visitors when struck lightly with a hammer. Each boulder gives off a bell-like tone. Size and shape of the boulder affects the tone. If removed from the site, the boulders were no longer possessed this unique quality. That's probably so you don't steal them.

But maybe not. I mean, how you stumble across that? How would that be possible? In ancient times. How would it be possible if you remove the boulders and put it in your backyard? You couldn't get it to ring. I just made a video on the ringing rock phenomenon. Yeah, they got to be touching each other or something.

That's very strange. It's weird. That's weird, but it's not as weird as this idea that you're suggesting. Because it's like when, you know, we have to think, how long did it take us to get to the point where we have cell phones? How long did it take them to the point where they were able to use geometric patterns to connect the ionosphere with temple? and generate plasma power with stones. What? Yeah.

Like, what are we talking about? How long do you think these civilizations existed? I don't, I'm not sure that it's like a, a, the way we're looking at it. I don't think it's, it that fits. Like the, let's take the dynastic Egyptians, for example. Okay. I don't think they came up with that. I think there's two classes, like the Osirian, the Assyrashft and Great Pyramid,

those are classified, in my opinion, as hardware and infrastructure. Whereas the temples, like Luxor-Karnak and the ones that you would traditionally think of as Egyptian, those are the software layer, the operating system of how to use this stuff, right? So you have two separate things. And then you have in the middle, you have the wetware that's a human. So the wetware can be programmed essentially using the infrastructure and the instructions. So that, to me, doesn't seem to, this whole system does not seem to be invented by the dynastic culture. It seems to have been interpreted by them maybe through a representative of the prior culture.

That's like the kind of the gram idea of, you know, maybe there were survivors. They knew how to work it. They came, they told these guys how to work it, and then they got a little cocky with it. And when we say the original culture, like, are you talking about like, the Kingslist. Yeah. You're talking about like these people that supposedly lived for thousands and thousands of years. Yeah.

I don't think they were, I mean, especially with mummification and stuff, I don't, I think they knew how to like re-inhabit, reincarnate intentionally into another body, essentially, you know, so they could continue that. Where do you get this from? What do you mean? Where did you get this idea from? I mean, the mummification idea is, as how they passed on knowledge. That's like Egyptian lore.

That's their, that's how they did it. So Horace is the sun god on earth, right? He, the wisdom of Horace gets transmitted to every successive pharaoh. So you would go through the training, through the temple complexes, and you would go up the Nile, and you would learn what you need to learn at each temple. Each temple has a theme. Like every single one of them is trying to teach a life lesson, philosophical lesson, history lesson. And so you would take that initiatic path, and then at the end of that path, you would be anointing.

as the sun god on earth, right? But that was a process that you had to basically tune your brain receiver to handle, right? So it's like I can't go to the gym and immediately hop on and bench 405, right? I have to spend years and years training and working up to it. But once I hit that 405, I'm crowned the champion if that's my personal best or if I'm at a competition, right? their crowning of the champion would be downloading the previous memories of the

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Head over to bluechew.com for details and important safety information. Check it out. This ad and the products being advertised are intended for a United States audience. I think that was a similar process to what they were doing, but they did it without a technological barrier. Okay, so the idea, is this like similar to the idea of the Dalai Lama, like the Dalai Lama? Each person is like a reincarnated version of the Dalai Lama, and they have to go out and find who it is. Yeah. So the idea is that these people didn't live that long.

It's not like they lived for tens of thousands of years, but the essence of who they were was transported into another vehicle, another body. Yeah. But why do you come up with this idea? Because I think it was a developmental process in one, I think we would maybe see some evidence of it. And I think that it's kind of right in front of our face. The mummification phenomenon is just weird in general, you know. It's just an outlier in terms of history of a process that we don't really understand. And I think what that was was a.

I would, I call it a quantum anchor in, in my terminology. And what I mean by that is like, it's a bookmark that can access a certain amount of memory from, from another person, right? So what the Egyptians would do is, have you seen, like, the full casket of a mummy? It's layered. There's huge, there's like the outer stone layer and there's a wood layer and then they just keep getting like, it's like a Russian doll. It's like a Russian doll. They're selective with their materials, though. The selection of materials is, in my opinion, what they would do to keep that frequency in that particular mummy.

They would hold on to that frequency. And then whenever a new pharaoh would come in, they would basically have a ceremony, probably involve psychedelics of some sort, and download that previous pharaoh's memories and knowledge and wisdom and all that stuff. And so they could continue the reign based off of inherited wisdom instead of me talking to you about the lessons that I learned in my life. You directly experience them through a altered state of consciousness. You know about Rupert Sheldrick's theory of morphic resonance? Love it. Weird stuff. Love it.

And it's also weird that there seems to be some evidence that points to the fact that it exists in nature. Like if you teach rats how to navigate a maze on the East Coast, the rats on the West Coast navigate it quicker. Yeah. Like it's measurable. Yeah. Like they figure it out quicker. Yeah. And that you could pass this information on to generations.

Like there was that study that there was a young man who I think it was a lavender smell or something. He did. Well, there's one that he did. There was one that they did with caterpillars where they figured out that caterpillars can contain memories. Oh, because they dissolve themselves and they got on the butterfly and they still remember this stuff. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

And so there's some weird stuff with memory and with genetics. And that memory is somehow another, like memories of puzzles and different things that they've tried to get people to do and animals to do. and also different reactions that they have to stimuli, whether it's negative or positive, like getting shocked if they smell a certain thing, and then future generations are, they avoid that thing. Yeah. It seems that we don't totally understand what memory is, and we probably have a very crude idea of how to contain it and how long it lasts and, like, what it actually is. It might be information that just exists in some other state that may be a very sophisticated civilization has figured out how to quantify that and how to capture it and how to transmit it and how to use it. Yeah, that's basically the idea.

And I think that's what they're saying directly in the Egyptian text. I honestly do believe that because they get hyper detailed on how to navigate this realm. and it seems very similar to like the stuff you see of the DMT research or you encounter an entity or you have this shared experience of something that you can't really explain. Maybe they were explaining that. Maybe that's what they're, you know, they were mapping that like we're kind of mapping it now. But they, the way they did it was to, if you go into the temples, they restrict your sensory input. That's kind of the point of the temple is you start in this big outside courtyard and you narrow into the final, the Nouse of the temples of. the temple, the main big old box of it.

And when you get in there, the environment is extremely acoustic. They would obviously have like incense and stuff going to. So you have this like, you have this tuned state that you're in, right? And then the deity itself in each temple, the in Egypt, Rome and the Hindu culture, all of their temples were the literal bodies of the deities. It wasn't a, we associate them with churches. and churches are not the same as cathedrals and cathedrals are not the same as temples like these are they're all technically a temple if you want to put them under that umbrella but the function of each one wildly different right so the Egyptian version was was to align your consciousness with this sort of energy frequency and if in physics there's a concept called spontaneous synchronization where if you have a metronome and it's on a moving base it will sync up with other metronomes on that movement. moving base. And what it is is frequency in training pretty much. It's it's the the dominant frequency

subtly aligns the other frequencies until they match up. And in my opinion, that's what they were doing with the brain. And they were essentially building that that receiver of their brain through this ritual process to receive that deity's consciousness. And that is that is the temple side of things. That's not what like the Osirian's doing. The Osirian is not one of those things. It's a very huge, large infrastructure project that looks like it was meant to withstand a whole bunch of stuff. The temple is something that's meant, it looks more like a programming interface where you would go in and you would learn this stuff, like a university, but basically like Neo downloading the kung fu. So how long would a civilization have to exist for they figured something like this out? This is where all of everything kind of converges.

Because if we have evidence of, I don't want to say it's ancient aliens, but a civilization that appears to be alien to us like we were just talking about. If you found a vault with all our technology locked into it, you'd be like, what the fuck? If that were the case and this cataclysm happened, you know, I think that their timeline is correct. I think that we should take their timeline seriously, the Sumerian and Egyptian Kingslist. I think that they're probably more accurate than we want to give off. And there are timelines hundreds of thousands of years. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the Samarians, right?

Yeah. Like some of the rulers. What's the longest ruler? I think it's like 50,000. Something like that, yeah. You imagine being around here 50,000 years? And then you have things like the Book of Enoch, right? Which talks about the watchers who come down and mate with the daughters of men and create the Nephilim, a race that destroys everything.

Yeah. Which sounds a lot like us. But this idea of being visited is ubiquitous, like throughout all of these ancient cultures. It's they all talk of something and it's generally coming down. Yeah. Like coming down from somewhere. Those from heaven to earth came. Yeah.

You know, this is this is the common theme that something comes down from the sky. I think, too, that if they were that capable of doing this type of transitionary, memory wiping and redownloading type of a thing. We may not have really even noticed that they were that much different unless they look like the Peruvian mummies or something, you know, like those things. But if they could do that, then they probably looked a lot like Egyptians. They probably looked a lot like the people that they were encountering because of this phenomenon of them breeding with the local populations.

And then that's where you probably get your explosion of civilizations at this same exact time. history where we get agriculture and all this this rule of law and like how to build these crazy things they all pop up at the same time so those are those are pointing in that direction in my opinion and then once they got a stable civilization to to kind of hold on to they could slowly build it back up and and keep this process going but then you have something like that mesopotamia flood that was intermediate between the younger dryness and now where you have these periodic like we almost made it and then the information gets thrown back again. So it's just been

this cat and mouse game, but we almost got it and no, something happens. Right. So there was probably a period of peace in terms of like natural disasters and cataclysmic wars and whatever it was, a period of peace where there was enough time where they could innovate

and get to this insane level of sophistication. And the evidence that we have is probably these megalithic structures. Yes. And that to me is the, they knew where the infrastructure was. Because even the, like, like, Anchor Wat has megalithic infrastructure. There's, there's a bunch of places that you can't really tell it's megalithic because they would build on top of these temples. Right.

And the infrastructure part, like Teotu Khan, Chichenita, those, that stuff is the best example I use because they're also nesting dolls of pyramids, right? So the inner core of the, of the pyramids seems to be that. someone knew where that thing was and they were like, look, you got to build it like this and get it aligned properly and then it'll work again. And then they just kept on doing that. And then it just builds up. And then by the time you look at like Karnak has megalithic stuff in it, it's the biggest temple in Egypt. But around it, it looks, there's there's Greco-Roman stuff. There's like modern repairs.

It's so hard to tell what is the most ancient stuff. But when you encounter it in Egypt, you physically feel that it's the ancient stuff. There's like a There's a vibe to it You can see it So Well this has been detailed too When people talk about the erosion

When they talk about the erosion Particularly in Giza And some of these areas There's different levels of erosion And there's some erosion That seems to indicate Tens of thousands of years Yeah

And that's what's thrown Kind of a monkey wrench in it There's like Petra is a great example Of this Some of the stuff in Petra Is crazy crazy eroded and some of it looks like like pristine, perfect, you know? And there's, they're very,

Petra's only like 10% excavated. You walk around Petra and you're walking on the roof of some building and you can look down in there and it's, yeah. That stuff in the right place where they put these big, like the treasury and stuff looks fine. It looks like they, you know, well preserved. But there's this, that guy right there, the breathtaking natural wonder, natural colors.

To the left, Jamie? Yeah. Down and to the right? That one, yeah. Yeah, look how heavily eroded that sucker is. Isn't this where that lion is too? Yeah. There's like a lion cut into the wall.

Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I'll look it up a quick. But hold on a second. Stay on that one. So that... So you feel like this is like quite a bit older. The whole site of Petra is a crazy enigma, dude. The engineering that went in there,

just to make that place livable is looks super, super old. And then you'll walk through, you'll encounter one of these guys, and then you'll encounter a perfect one in the treasury, and then you'll encounter one that's just like is a hole in the wall that looks like it was under construction. It's just, like, all of it

does not make any sense. So all of Petra is essentially carved out of these mountains. Yeah. There's a couple Roman, there's a Roman temple and an amphitheater at the end of it, but the main stuff is, yeah. There's the lion? Oh, yeah. That's how old looking

fucking little. You see it in the right shape, which is the way I still look like a mountain lion. I could have lived there. It's got a tail. Okay, that's a different one. Yeah. Is it a different one or is it a different one?

Wow. Can I bring up side note as you're talking? I was thinking of something and looked it up and didn't get taken off my path. Is there a place like the hill described on telepathy tapes in ancient descriptions of anything? You know what I'm talking about? hill. Do you know about that? I know the telepathy tapes. I'm not familiar with this.

So the telepathy tapes, they talk about these nonverbal autistic kids that all meet up telepathically in this place that they refer to as the hill. Like people that have not encountered each other physically all talk about this area. And this hill is supposed to be a place that and other people have gotten to it too, right? So that's the weird part as I was thinking. And it's, it's, it maybe is a hill, maybe isn't a hill, you know. It's out somewhere in the subconscious or wherever the hell they're actually going. Yeah. But as you're talking about, you know, back in the past, I'm like, well, that didn't just start in the last 50 years.

Right. It probably has been there forever. Well, the, ancient Greece has some where, like, dream temples are talking about. If you go down to, this is shamanic soul flights, but I think more interesting is ancient Irish and Celtic, they actually, I mean, mound builders, there are hills. And the way it was described in telepathy tapes is that there's various hills. They're sort of geographically located, but there are also big giant hills where there are thousands of people hanging out, talking, communicating, learning. People have learned hieroglyphs. They go ask a teacher.

And this is why drugs are illegal. And then as you're saying, I'm like, if someone was a ruler, they could have, like, cut off the pat. Like, no one's going here anymore. Right. We need full control. That's, that's the- Break all the tablets that show you how to get there. Yep.

We're done. it's over, you know, and that's my, I did this. Right. I made all of this. Right. Right. And there's a lot of evidence that people do that now. Like, look what the Taliban did when they blew up all those ancient.

Yeah. Yeah. So, and if you, once you add the layer of like an altered state of consciousness, like, the, the most impactful moments in some people's lives are their first psychedelic experiences or near-death experiences, stuff like that, that's the download. You know, you're kind of changed and altered forever after you go. go through one of these things. Right.

So if you could control that, instead of having this, I'm just going to see what happens on ayahuasca journey, you know, if you could control that and guide it, which is exactly what you find in the, the, the actual barrier, not the pyramid tombs, because they're not tombs, in the actual burials of the pharaohs,

they have spells on the wall that, that tell you how to navigate to connect with them, to connect with other deities, to, it's how they, they would go through this celestial university and interact with ancestors or get full memories sometimes and have these direct experiences that when they came out of their ritual, they would bring them out into the world and teach everybody else. But to do that, not anybody can just do that. You know, you have to be able to hold your conscious form in that realm because anyone,

that's gone through one of these experiences know that it's kind of like you're you're at the mercy of the experience you know you're kind of getting thrown around but i think to answer that question of like how long does it take their science to do that i think that was actually the first core part of the science was learning how to navigate that world and then everything else kind of would come easy if you could know how to access the information of how do i how do i how do i gelify this rock how do i how do i how do i because it would it would give you secrets to nature that you're not necessarily going to see with your limited sensory perception. It's going to be something internal.

It's nosis. That's what they called it in the ancient world. It's direct knowledge of how the mechanics of the natural world actually work. Jamie, see if you can find the hieroglyphs of the path to the afterworld or the afterlife. I think it's KV7. I think that's that's Ramsey's burial chamber. That's weird as fuck. As you guys keep saying spells, I keep thinking of prompts for, and it's,

you don't know the right prompt, you know, you're not going to get the right thing. Yeah. Or it's getting you. It's just as magical. Oh, dude, I think you just nailed something. Damn, Jamie. Sorry. Yeah.

So why you apologize? Jamie, you need to write a book. Right. She keeps sending the path. That's, wow. Yeah, spells and prompts. Right. And if you don't say it right, you're not going to get the right answer back.

Right. I've done that a lot. So, yeah, if you knew how to prompt that experience, a DMT-like, experience and this is what you're so this the the the snake around the the whenever that it's in the hieroglyphs is is they'll say it's protection you know but that's what I'm saying if by holding your conscious form holding a space for your conscious form you you essentially become an observer in this world that can navigate it and it's protected by this this uh your your own personal vibration that you had to build up through this temple initiation protocol well it certainly also could be

under the spell of a psychedelic experience which you're a lot of people encounter serpents. Yeah. Yeah, that's like a main motif in... Yeah, like, look, he's got the serpents around him as he's traveling. Look at the... And look, he's all white. Like,

he's in a protected bubble. Yeah. Like, he's in a vehicle. Yeah, that's... So this is... What's on his head, too? You'll see... That's the solar disk. What? That's canoe. Yeah. What's the solar disk?

Solar disc. The, that's... So the boat there, in my interpretation of this is a wormhole, essentially the way that we would describe a wormhole. You can click that one, Jamie. You're hovering over. Yeah, that's, so the solar boat is the method of transport,

and this is why I say it's like a direct download because this was the protocol of like where they were going, where they were going, how you find them, and they would put down the prompt to reach them. Oh, fuck it.

Like, why are they writing this? step down. That's what I'm saying. Like is this nonsense or is this, are they trying to explain something that's an actual process? Jamie, look up the book of caverns. You're going to love this one. Okay, go to

there are these weird figures on the book of caverns. No, the very first one had them. Click it and it'll probably get a better one. Ken Kesey wrote a book on that? Oh, introduction That one tour Egypt, right there, that tour Egypt one.

Click that one. Right above you. Okay. Now go to that file extract from the Book of Caverns, Wikimedia Commons. Up there, yeah. Look at the creatures on the bottom there. What the hell are those? This one is crazy, man.

The Book of Cavernor is like some of the most wild hieroglyphic imagery you're going to see. That to me, I'm going full. Nephilim on that one. Yeah, what the fuck are those things? Yeah. And there's they're all uniform? There's optical physics in another page. Like the spherical refraction, the diagram for spherical refraction is

the image. Where's that? So the Ken Kesey thing's actually just a novel. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So there's another one. Maybe scroll down on this one that you're looking at here. What should what would be the spell that we put into the what's the with the prompt spell Would you say spherical refraction? Yeah, so the optics of a sphere this is gonna blow your mind

They put this on it's the scroll of How about spherical refraction? Jamer Yeah I mean I got no signal in here is this it? The top the one in the middle? No Right there where Jamie's, it says Egyptian occult. It shows some sort of refraction above that. Using a Mac, Jamie?

Yeah. I'm going to air drop this to you actually. This is why I had my stuff prep. What is all this stuff right here? So this is, these are in burial. These are the burial chambers, the actual burial chambers, not the pyramids. So they write all over the old. Look at those freaky dudes are on the bottom.

The same freaky dudes, but they're on their knees. Yeah. I'm telling you, it's the weirdest stuff you'll ever see. The hieroglyphs you see above ground and in the, like, regular temples, nothing like this. They all have long-ass fingers. Yeah. They're all these very bizarre looking creatures with long fingers. And they were standing up walking in the other hieroglyphs, and in this one, they're all leaning down.

But it seems to be important that they document the size of their digits in their hands. They're utterly unlike any other figures that you see depicted, too. Jamie, can you go back to the images we were just talking about? We were just looking at? And yeah, that one. And make those guys in the bottom bigger. Like, what the fuck are those things? They look almost tied up, too.

Well, it looks like they're on their knees. Like, they're in a box. And the nested gate thing, you see that all over the temples. The things that they're trapped in right next to it is like this nested gate. kind of stone doorway type thing that you see everywhere. Go back to that image again? Oh, there it is. Like, what the

fuck are those things, man? And they don't have heads here? They don't have heads, and they have these weird, long appendages that come off of their... Almost like they have two arm... Like two lower arms.

Yeah. And so when you see it larger, I thought they were fingers. But now it looks. Way weirder than that. Yeah. They're definitely one of the things I think is, and they're always kind of lower too,

so like the spirits of the underworld, I guess, like the darker, darker ones. Fucking weird. Yeah, I was going to try to use a search to try to ask what's in the bottom of the image, you know? Yeah, good idea. What's the conventional explanation for what those things are?

Dear perplexity, help us out. Here we go. Our wonderful A. sponsor perplexity checking available files it's going to be hard it's going to have to do research here

stylized human-like figures some painted black wow perplexity's taking its time on this one usually it bang stuff out quick it's freaking out

yeah it's like this is you can't know this double check hey this is like we're asking it to tell us how to make a bomb we tried to talk to it the other day to teach us how smoke PCP. Yeah, it wouldn't do it. Oh man. You're not using the right spell, dude.

Eventually we convinced that we're on PCP. Wow, look how slow it's going. Can I air drop a link to you, Jamie? Yeah, do you see it? It should... Here it goes. See if I can... Some painted black and others read walking or standing in sequence to the left of them are three wavy, snake-like horizontal symbols. Yeah, I understand that, but what is it? Human-like figures. They look headless. Small standing human figures

in Egyptian-style profile rendered a silhouette rather than detailed people. Their long, slightly bent bodies and arms suggest they may repeat depictions of a deity or ritual participants, but the image alone is not enough to identify them confidently. Yeah, they don't have an answer. They're just describing it.

You can add, like, the Book of the Caverns to it, and it might tell you a little bit more. Did you send that refracted? I'm trying to... How do I get this to you, Jamie? AirDrop. It's like a link in Canva. I have...

I think in an air drop a link. Okay, let's try that. AirDrop. So, have you had anybody explained to you with those headless, weird-looking things? No. Sometimes I just, I will encounter stuff

while looking for this and it's like, it'll pop up into my head. And I went to, I met a bunch of people in Egypt, and so I'll send it to them. and often there's not a lot of, like we have a really poor understanding of hieroglyphs. I want to like make that very clear. The Greeks didn't get everything from hieroglyphs. The Greeks, the Egyptian priests, the ancient ancient Egyptian priests, they didn't tell the Greeks everything, you know.

And so we have the Rosetta Stone that translates the phonetics of hieroglyphs. We know how they spoke hieroglyphics, like their language. But we don't know what their meanings were. We have the best interpretation from the Greeks of what they mean, but that's it. Like, we're not, we, we didn't get this straight from the horse's mouth, and it was what I'm saying. This is like, there was never someone that walked a Greek guy, like, through the temple. Like, this is what this means. That's not how they taught people.

So we're still, like, kind of throwing our darts in the dark here with a lot of this stuff. And that's why I take the mainstream a little bit seriously in terms of, like, what the idea is. but you also have to look at it like they were probably looking at it, which is not the way that we would look at it, right? So. If I can do this. So this thing that you're sending, Jamie, what's the significance of it? So it's basically matching up.

What I like to do is show physics in my videos, right, of them accurately describing processes that we understand today, but only through our scientific method, right? So that's kind of like a, I don't know, a little sledgehammer blow I like to take to these things, but yeah, Jamie, I can't. I don't know if I can air drop a link.

It's showing you're here, but I can air drop a file. I'll just air drop you the file because this one is. Bear with us, ladies and gentlemen, as we scramble. So sorry. I was looking that up. It says the perplexity is sort of saying it's like a depiction of the underworld. That's sort of what you were saying.

This is, it's always, it's always the underworld. It's always fertility. It's always protection. But like, that's such a broad term. And they're getting it from academic research. Yeah. They're getting it from whatever textbooks that have been written about it. Yeah.

So there's a huge gap in between our interpretation because we kind of put a blanket over all of these cultures. And they didn't treat things like we say that they treat these things. And even if you go to places that still have. really good cultural anchor like Peru they don't agree with what we say this thing was you know they don't agree that the incas built the pre-inca looking stonework right they they they don't claim that but we will say that the inca did it and so that that was always a huge problem for me like trying to make sense of all this stuff is like well they're saying this why do I believe you just because you are at a university and this is in a textbook I'm reading you know right all right here we

go. So what are we looking at? There we go. Whoa. Yeah. So this isn't that same book, the book of the caverns, right? This is just a different page of it. But what you're looking at down there is this guy, art of Clay Taylor, I use this stuff all the time, it's like just did this amazing analysis of the, so what's happening is there's being light. This is how a sphere refract light. Go back to the top, please. That's hard to show on the screen for everybody. Can you shrink it? No one can see it on the screen. Oh, I see on TV. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to do kind of both. Yeah, so the comparison basically, you see where the beam is going in a perfectly straight line there?

Yes. So that's containing all of these, the deities. You can see that they are pulling the end there is Kunim. He's, man, we have to go through the entire Egyptian pantheon to explain this. But basically what it's saying is there's an energy, a knowledge, a wisdom being transmitted through this light. and when you look at it, it is the exact optical refraction of a sphere. And so that's the solar disk is basically the transmitter of this information, the deity's consciousness. So how you manipulate that light is what we see in the actual temples.

And so it's basically a tuning fork. They use the light as a tuning fork to get this information or to navigate through this underworld spiritual realm. And the evidence of that for me is in the perfect optical Refraction of a sphere That's crazy that it completely aligns No, it's it's dead on And there's a sphere Yeah, and then you have-

So there's a sphere at the right side of the image Okay, I'm gonna blow your mind even more here And the spherical refraction that you see that's mirrored down below it What actually happens with the light in a sphere You've seen the exact thing including the reversal of the images Top and bottom so so jamie if you open that last one i'll make that this one will make sense at the tip of that that image that we saw you know you had that straight line going through it if you overlay the

the great pyramid over the spherical refraction it is one we we know that the angle of a rainbow is in the side of the pyramid it is in the concave part of it because the great pyramid's eight-sided there's a line that goes right through it that is the angle of a double of a double rainbow And the way that the sphere refracts the light is the exact layout of the Great Pyramid. And so where the grand gallery goes, that middle part that I'm pointing the area, yeah, I'm putting in the arrow too, that is where right on the tip of the sphere, it breaks the colors up into the seven colors of the rainbow, right? Rogi Biv. And when you say it's an eight-sided pyramid, how are you saying that? I can show a picture of it.

Yeah. It greatly complicates the construction process being eight-sided as well. So you only see it on the equinox, I believe. It's a shadow of, yeah, so. So like they're counting that as two sides because it's... It's dented in on the flat sides a little bit. It's got a concavity. But you can only see it certain times a year.

So it looks like it's four-sided. Yeah. So, okay. So do you think that when it was covered in limestone that was more prevalent? No. I think they probably smoothed it out. I think it's more of a functional aspect of it. Because when you actually, when you look at the tuning of the pyramids, they kind of, they resonate at the Schumann cavity resonances.

And so I think this was a deliberate focusing of those radio frequencies down into the electromagnetic spectrum. Go back to those images that you were just showing, please? Which ones? The ones you just had on screen? The pyramid one. Go back, make it larger. I mean, scroll back so I can see the rest of the left side of the screen. So there's that right there.

So the Great Pyramid is not eight-sided. What is that? I mean, this is a thumb-note from YouTube. I don't... I mean, they... This guy is... Or is it, it says. Oh, or is it?

Yeah. So you can see it when you go there. You'll see a small, weird spot in the middle of the Great Pyramid that looks like there's something there, but you only see it really from above on certain times of year. Wow. Yeah. And what do you think this function was? So when you manipulate the shape of a tetrahedron or a pyramid, what it does is it adjust

the focus internally. So it'll adjust the shape of the, there's a quantum process for it, but it adjusts the, basically the output of what the shape is doing. So if it's, we're tapping into like a radio wave frequency band in terms of how big the Great Pyramid is. But there's a study in 2018 that showed that it can convert radio waves into electromagnetic energy into the ground. And it's doing this passively.

It's not like a, it's not like Chris Dunn's idea right now. You know, maybe it was at some point. But what it actually does is it interacts with the electromagnetic spectrum and the radio frequencies that are that are bouncing around the Schumann cavity, which is where we exist in, right? and so what I think was happening is internally there's these chambers and these specific little nodes that were like filters like bandpass filters or or you know taking a bigger wave that's passing through this and creating something inside of it that kind of slips through and that can utilize the frequencies that are that are passing through it so to me they're like more of a sink than they were like a transmitter I think a lot of people think they were a transmitter. I think they were they were sinking the this flow of energy into the ground. Yeah. So those bands there are the radio frequency bands and

they tested this. I think it was 2018. Yeah, 2018. And so how do they how do they think this is happening? So I think they did a little I think they did a model of it there. I'm not 100% sure on the it normally I think I think they made a model of it and they tested it in a closed environment but I don't think they actually got out there with some sort of device that read the signal on the ground. But what they're saying basically is the geometry does that. The geometry focuses the energy. It's an alchemical process.

You're taking a bigger wave and you're down converting it into a smaller wave. And so that can interact with the environment as well. So if you change the soil conductivity or the electrical gradients that are moving through the crust of the earth, then that affects plant growth. That affects germination rates. That affects a whole bunch of things. It affects how lively an ecosystem is, is directly related

to soil conductivity. And so at minimum, it was interacting in that way. So at maximum, they were probably routing it in other ways, too. What? First of all, how do they learn this?

First of all, and second all, what are they doing with it? So this is the importance of, of, this is why I think it's infrastructure, because I think that, you know, if we're talking about these planetary cycles and stuff like that, the civilization that was before the dynastic Egyptians, the ones that built the infrastructure like Osirian, Osirschaf, and pyramids. They probably had to do some environmental modification to make civilization work in certain areas. I think maybe the earth went through something quite serious before the younger dryest even. And this was kind of a recovery system for that. and when you look at the work of you know Gerald Pollock does like easy water

like structured water oh okay yeah he does he does because that's what your body uses your body is water but it's structured water it's a liquid crystal and it that's because it can carry nutrients and electricity and basically all you need for life is in structured water

and every temple was interacting with this structured water or at least a body of water or an intersection between the two and Randall talks about this endlessly too. But so there's this geometric interface between the ionosphere and the Tolaric currents or ground currents that control soil conductivity, right? So if I put a geometric interface between the two, then I can shape that. And then if I shape it even more with an underground network of pipes and systems that are distributing this out to the environment like we see at Anchorwat and at Dasher in Egypt, then this starts to become an ecological machine, essentially. that has no moving parts, but is interacting with the environment in a way that, like, the best thing I can say is terraforming.

You know, they were terraforming or creating a local ecology that could sustain life where they wanted to live in the most productive parts of the world, I guess. So with this geometric pattern, so with the pyramid itself, what do you think the structure underneath it is? Do you have a theory? like what the purpose of it was if they are the the shape that filippo is saying that they are you know if they are accurately that big and that large then those to me sound they look like tuning forks they look like there's some sort of resonant cavities in a way that if it's if we're focusing that energy from from you know the atmosphere down into the ground then the shape of it you're essentially looking at the top of an obelisk and we know what the obelisk look like and we know the obelisk ring and so all of these these these things are lining up so so the the great pyramid itself the main thing is made of limestone right and then you have the king's chamber that's made of rose granite that was transported from 500 fucking miles away but they're 80 tons yeah no big deal but the rose granite's interesting the rose granite has is high in quartz, so it's piezoelectric, and then it is also ferromagnetic. That's why it's rose. There's a lot of iron in it.

So if the Great Pyramid is taking in these radio waves, and then essentially focusing them into electromagnetic energy, that energy is passing through the king's chamber, which would interact with that in a way that would basically tune that energy, like the spontaneous synchronization of the consciousness we were talking about earlier. same concept but going into the ground. So if we're taking this and we're tuning that energy going into the ground that our plants and our our humans can work with, then we have a system of cultivating this Garden of Eden essentially in any area that we want.

If you can bring these little devices and you can put a note here, a note here, a note here, a note here, not here, then you create this vast network of a very livable environment. And when they don't work, then you have a very arid environment. that is unlivable, which is what they what we see in Egypt now. And so so you think it was geoengineering? I think it was no, I think it was, you can't say our phones are just phones, right? Our phones do way more than that. Right. I think their main purpose was stabilizing the local, local ecology and the environment of these places.

I think that was a main purpose. A secondary purpose was learning and teaching humans how to, use this energy in other ways that benefited life in general. So organizing society in a proper, you know, civilization would be very important. Engineering things to withstand earthquakes and environmental disasters would be very important. Hydrology would be very important. All of these things seem to be a part of that system as well where once you have this, the batteries connected to my phone, my phone's working, right?

But then I have to download the apps to do other stuff with it. The apps are essentially what the humans are doing. The apps become the human. You go into this place and it's providing you with your environment you can live. And then you go into the temples and it's basically your university where you download your information and then you create your civilization after that. It would be a way of boxing up a civilization and basically white labeling it so you can do it somewhere else. in using the local creatures that evolved there naturally, which would fit in perfectly with what we see, right?

If Earth evolved primates naturally, and then they get modified to accept these signals by these people, these beings that came here, or that had been here already, then all you'd have to do is really find another creature that's capable of speaking, and then you have your template. And then that template spliced with your genetics

and connected with the system becomes a way of living on any world that you choose. Okay, so you think that this was, so in this ability that these things have to control the environment and make it more hospitable, do you think this has an ability to affect weather? Do you think they're doing that? Do you think they're making more plant growth? What do you think they're doing with this? Both. So we have to separate these out into certain. I'll separate into three main categories here. So we have the Americas, which was like the biologists, biologists.

They were the lab that worked with the plants. They were there, we see this in all of their sacred sites, right? They were acclimatizing crops. They were living in Machupeachu where they could grow food up on top of mountains. They were still close to sea level where they could manipulate that whole environment too. They were masters of working with this. Like the entire Amazon is pretty much. engineered by humans. So that to me is like going to school for biology or agriculture.

And then you have Europe, the European area, Greco-Roman stuff, which is ordering society and making sure that resources are distributed properly and humans can, regardless of how you think about that, Romans were the most successful empire builders of all time. And they they did that by absorbing different belief systems. So they were kind of transmuting the different thoughts of the people around them and in their empire to work for the greater good, I guess. And then you have Egypt, which is consciousness, like all conscious based. And all their hieroglyphs and stuff, there were kind of the people that were like, okay, this is how you make a connection with these natural patterns of nature that we call, they called netters, the, meter, netters.

But that's where we get our name for nature. The netters were these patterns of, you know, nature, consciousness and things like that. And you could essentially tap into those and gain insight, wisdom, and noses through that. And then you have the Hindu and the Pacific Islands over here, which if you look at all of their stuff, they were working with the water. They were prepping the water. They were cleaning the water. They were doing all this stuff to water.

You have Hindu stepwells. Every one of them has a Shiva Liam that you pour water on to, you know, as their ritual, which purifies and makes the water sacred. And then you get into the Pacific Islands. You have places like Anchor Wat, which is the most hydrologically advanced system that we've ever seen in the ancient world. And we still don't know if it's true scale, right? And so I like using Anchor Wat because it's kind of a good example of what this ancient system was. where they all have a piece of the same, I guess, theory. They all have the technology, but they have specializations for implementing it into reality.

And so with that, you have your population evolves in terms of intellect and ability in controlling the environment and survivability. And so you have a school, essentially a human school of teaching humans how to cultivate this living things. thing on this planet, which is the planet itself. It's basically awakening the planet to intelligence, whether that's plant life, human intelligence, whatever works with this type of energy, that was the system for implementing it, is the temple system. And so the evidence in that for my line of research would be, okay, we have clear examples of our tech doing this.

And this is what it does. And this stuff, one, yeah, this looks like this, whatever. but we're working with different scales. If you're looking at the layout of these temples, we're working with the electromagnetic spectrum in our phones, and they are working in the acoustic spectrum with the temples. They're all tuned to crazy resonances everywhere, and their notation for that was flowers, essentially,

and the flowers match up with somatic patterns. And so these are essentially the keys to working with the different temple frequencies inside of it. So you're an operator, you're like driving. this thing essentially of what it can do. Jesus Christ. How the hell did they learn this? Your guess is as good as mine, you. I'm just trying to DJ the stuff and figure out this knowledge.

Well, it's a fascinating perspective, but it also makes you think, like, what are we really talking about? Yeah. What does this civilization look like? What does this pre-existing civilization look like? What is the earliest versions of it? Well, there's a lot of interesting, and this stuff is kind of on the fringes, but like, let's say that, you know, the Martian world was our original home and it got unlivable.

Something happened to it. There's huge scars on Mars. Like something horrible could have happened to that place. So let's say they had that much time to evolve as a civilization, like on another planet. And we're trying to figure out how to terraform Mars right now. Elon's doing that. So this back and forth, like, okay, we need to have a backup world isn't a foreign concept. It's not something that would be wildly out there to suggest that we should probably find a way of living on another world, right?

Now, let's extrapolate that. Say your whole solar system's dying or say you need a, you know, you're trying to colonize another world because yours is too full of people. Well, if you have this system already, that's not a problem. You don't even have to move things physically. It's an interconnected system that works with the local, the local environment and the local start. that it's in and it's connected to all these other stars and they've somehow figured out this network that without moving bodies physical bodies you could transfer consciousness we see that in mummies so if they can do that then a star system in Orion or the Pleiades or wherever that were

these these things are aligned to essentially has a communication base like a router in in this system you know so you say like how long would it take to do that but we're talking about earth time scales. What if that's not even a factor? What if what if they had billions of years of evolution and they just use earth as a waypost or a seed bank or somewhere to store their information so that let's say something does happen on a on a planet in Orion? They can come back to earth, retrieve some genetics from corn and go to another planet and plant corn and they can have corn over there. You know, like that that to me seems seems more reasonable than saying these these things just popped out of nowhere and they're just amazingly sophisticated

and they don't have any connection with anything else. They just popped up and this is this, you should believe this story. Not only not, but it's the oldest stuff that we can find. Yeah. The oldest stuff that we can find is the most perplexing. Well, the Peru example, Jay Anderson,

I think you've got him on, right? Jay Anderson. Yeah. Yeah. So he just released his series, I think it's called Ancient Technologies, and he was, he went through Alante Tombo and was showing how

scattered and stuff, that stuff, What like the megalithic blocks are just thrown everywhere and then the the the low-tech stone stacking mortar stuff is right on top of it, right? So if if that story is correct, if that if the original history of this stuff is correct, what were being told at least, then the the crappier work would have had to survive something that threw a megalithic block off a mountain. If the inca built all of this, then the crappier work on top is dated to the same they're throwing it into the same. date range, right? Yeah. Something that threw a megalithic block off a mountain didn't touch the the crappy brick work that was on top of it. No, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

Well, also, there's also evidence in all these cultures, like when, particularly Lebanon and all these, all these different places, that there seems to be this habit that people have of building on top of far older stuff. And it exists everywhere. Yeah. And we just, we need to assume that that's the case, I think, because it seems to be the case everywhere. When they find something incredibly complex and ancient, they build on top of that area. And then there's so much evidence of these cultures that find pre-existing structures. This is the Aztecs. Like, we don't really know who built these Aztec pyramids, which is really weird. I thought my whole life, the Aztecs built the Aztec pyramids. Yeah. Duh. Right? And then you find out,

oh, no, they don't even say they did it. They called it the place where the gods were born. Yeah. And so that stuff existed at least a thousand years before they were there. And that that just doesn't, it doesn't fit with the level of sophistication that this, that the, the story itself comes with. The cultures come with this really sophisticated and what seems like encoded language in terms, we, we say it's like they're legends. But if you look at even stuff like the Quran or the Bible, there's stuff hidden in there numerically. and in the legends themselves that can be extracted from it that seem to be intentional. That happens all over the ancient world. All of their stuff seems to be like that, which is the weirdest thing to me because if you know all of this, if that theory is correct and they were, you know, terraforming or at least connecting on a conscious internet level type of a thing, the only way you could really transmit,

that and they did this is like having a really good legend to orally transmit and that you could you know make songs out of and stuff like that but once it's down on on uh you know in a language in like sanskrit or or hieroglyphics or whatever uh once it's down in a language then you have the inability to really look at it objectively because the guy that can read sanskrit it says this means this and you can't read Sanskrit. So you're like, obviously this means this. But what doesn't lie is the geometry. And that's what I'm focusing on mostly is showing that this geometry has a function.

And we use it every day in our devices. And if we scale that up, then we're just working with different levels of vibration in terms of, you know, seismic waves going through the earth. and that is the equivalent, essentially, of what our phones are doing with the electromagnetic spectrum. So their interaction geometrically with the natural, you know, humming of the earth and the natural processes of the earth. And also of space.

And of space, yeah. The natural bridge between that is the actual connection. That's what that, that is what they say in the ancient text. If I'm translating it, that's how I read it is. they're saying to connect to the earth here you have to build this temple here essentially building it putting a processor our processor on this spot and to connect to the energy that that processor needs to run then you have to align it to this star when the sun rises and this day and to calculate that you need to know the cardinal directions and that's why they're all cardinally aligned so you have these different clues in archaeo astronomy as well that are kind of validating the the theories and what most people would write off is the stuff that I'm like looking directly at. Like that the legendary stuff that seems too, too crazy to be real,

well, that's probably just the best vocab they had to describe the process. We, we have the ability to use English, which is a very high-tech language. It absorbs all other languages, and we have ways of making new words, and it evolves over time.

Their systems really didn't, you know? So they had this, they had one thing, like hieroglyphs had usually had like seven meanings per hieroglyph. So you had to like find which one in context of the hieroglyph it was. Whereas ours is hyper specific. So our language being used to translate this stuff is inherently going to be muddy because their concepts were much larger, a picture's worth a thousand words.

That's what the hieroglyphs were. And now we have to take the hieroglyph and make it into a thousand words because that's, that's our way of understanding it. That's a really good way of putting it. And we know this is the case where things are lost in translation. Yeah. It's very complicated when you're just going from Russian to English or, you know, we've seen that in scam letters. When people go from foreign languages and they try to talk like, pretend like they're speaking English as a native language and they fuck things up.

You're like, hey, you're not really from Kansas. Hey, John. That's why I'm actually from Kansas. It completely makes sense. It completely makes sense that especially when you deal with other ancient languages. Like, we know this about ancient Hebrew, right? That ancient Hebrew letters doubled as numbers, which is really weird. Yeah.

So imagine there was like numerical value in words. Oh, that's... Check this out. Okay. So, like, ancient Mayan glyphs, for example, they are based, like, almost solely on cycles, fits directly in with this genetic engineering, like, biological engineering framework that they use, right? the the Egyptian language is more

closely related to engineering diagrams than it is an actual language they can be read some of them can be read almost like like you're looking at a part diagram and there's different views of the part you know and then the

Hindu language is based on like flow water type of a it's it eventually evolved into Buddhism, right, which is basically harmonizing the flow of your reality. So each one of these languages evolves into its function in this world, right? So we kind of have to look at it from that perspective as well instead of blanketing all of this as this was a ritual or like this was for protection or this was for fertility. Well, yeah, it is. But that has such a huge,

has a different impact on whatever function that you're using it for. So that's, their manual essentially is, is their style of how they're communicating this stuff. And what that looks like in the environment itself. Ooh. And that's the crazy thing about the hieroglyphs that this emerged. Yeah.

Out of nowhere. And we don't have like early hieroglyphs. We don't have a crude version. of it. There's not even a, you would think that like you have a starting symbol like X marks a spot or whatever. Like this means I'm the king of something. And then you just grow that into a vocabulary.

Like most of these emerge having a fully sophisticated vocabulary of concepts that right now we are still trying to understand. That's how sophisticated they were. They don't make sense to us because it seems like they, if we're looking at it from a primitive lens, how could they be talking about? some quantum physics here or optics you know one of the weird things about these kids these telepathy tape kids is some of them can read hieroglyphs like off the rip like no yeah no education so this would this would mean they probably downloaded that information something from the hill

from the hill right and the and the primordial mound is in every culture like that's the description on it was that like there's a teacher there that teaches it to them that on the hill did they Like, did they want to know it? There's like a, I don't know if it's a guy or a being or what it would be. But yeah, it's like the teacher of hieroglyphs explains it to them. Do they describe the teacher at all? So the descriptions through telepathy tapes is now you're getting it from a kid that doesn't talk. So it's a very hard translation.

But it's, yeah, sort of do. The question is like, does it benefit the kid that it can't talk, right? It's not communicating. So it's able to, it doesn't have these. It probably doesn't even have the same sense of self that we do. Or is it routing that that like the energy of consciousness in the parts of the brain that would normally light up for the stuff that lights us up? Is it being rerouted into something else? Right.

Or they just not in their own way because they don't speak verbally. Right? Yeah. They're not they're not attaching anything to it. It just comes to them and they don't have to process through the, the, the, the, culture. Do you know, do you know who Matias DeStefano is? No. So he's a, he says he can remember his past lives. Yeah, I went to Egypt with him and he's, yeah, he, uh, he, uh, he, he, I bet that dude's fun at a party. Oh, dude, no, like, a lot of my work is kind of like trying to

decipher what the hell he just said, because it makes sense to me and I got to, like, put some science to this because I'm like, obviously that's right. But he's like, he said that the, um, the main method of communicating in this way was nonverbal. is their whole society was basically engulfed in this field of all of this knowledge. And all you had to do is really tap into what part of the field that you wanted to know this knowledge. He calls it a spider web. And sometimes he'll do this thing where he's like navigating through this spider web thing. And there's like nodes of knowledge.

And these guys could all navigate through this node of knowledge that was being held in it. basically you're inside this this giant supercomputer of of and a database that is this like the concept of the akashik records yes yeah that's so same concept different cultures and different ways of accessing it and he said that the vibration did something with the water it aligned the water in a you're structured water in a quantum way to where you could get to the location of this information or experience or memory or whatever that's why water was so important to humans is because that was the interface layer of the past and the future. And that's how they were able to predict things in the future because they could just go to a different node. And if they went to this node and said, okay, the civilization is going to collapse in, you know, 100 BC. But if we do this, then we could survive. And everything's still going to, you know, the cycles are still going to happen.

But if you put this temple right here, then people are going to dig it up and then it's going to restart civilization. So this is why they were able to mobilize their people because they all had that shared vision of this thing happening and they could all access it because they were bathed in this field of information that they were building with this temple network. One of the fucking weirdest things in all the hieroglyphs is these, this Stargate thing. Like that, that is so strange. Literally means Stargate.

Literally means Stargate. Our tour guide was Mohamed Ibriam. He's awesome and he's kind of the one that has pushed the boundaries of reading this stuff. Because when you go to Edfu, the building text of Edfu are, so building texts are on the walls of the temple, right? The building texts of Edfu are actually the first records of Atlantis that we have. That's not Plato. The story of Atlantis is on Ed Fu and you can see it everywhere. There's boats coming in with the gods.

They're carrying him in and he walks through the entire outer wall. of the temple and I'll show you all. And where's this? Ed Fu. It's in Egypt, yeah. And so how old is this depiction of Atlantis? I don't know what exactly their date is, but I'm pretty sure if Solon got it from the, it probably lines up exactly. Is this online? Can we look at that? Edfu building text and it'll see all kinds of boats and all the. So that's the oldest depiction of Atlantis. Yeah. I don't know why people attribute it to Plato. That's the first written description that we have is Plato, but Ed Fu is the legend of Atlantis. Does it have concentric circles? Is it the whole diagram of? They don't have that, but it has a lot of the, um, the plasma technology stuff that I was

talking about, you know, it has like plasma hieroglyphs everywhere. Yeah. I, I've, no, it has a legitimate, I, I went to Egypt to try and find this hieroglyph because I was like, it's got to be somewhere, you know? It was everywhere, dude, like every temple I went to. Is this it? That's Dendera. Who's those dudes with the wings? What do they represent? That's fucking weird. So that's your, yeah, so the Ka is the hands up and the Ba. The Ba is the spiritual body, and that's the bird.

So there's three aspects in Egyptian conscious cosmology, where it's the Mur Kaaba, the light, this is spiritual light body. The mer means the light, the ba is the body that can fly through it. And then the Ka is the, you're essentially like your human part of it. So what are we looking at here? Google Ed Fu Building Ted. No, this is... Oh, is this? I mean, Atlanta's Egypt.

Okay, that one right there, if you click... Oh, that's kind of a... Edfu Building Text. Edfu... Yeah, no, Edfu Building Text. Google that. Building text? Yeah.

They're probably not going to... Well, that one's a really good one right there, but these are all over the place. That second one, to you're right? Yep. So the images of them coming across the ocean to Egypt are all over this. Like, if you look right above that little thing that's cut where the pictures cut off, the whole wall is that... basically it's showing their journey from another land to Egypt.

Look how their heads have been removed. Yeah. It's like they've been defaced. Almost everything there you'll see that has been scratched out. The faces have been knocked off. All of the old, old old stuff has been knocked off. Because they're like, that wasn't him. It was me.

It was me, bro. He's just been conquered like 30 times. Of course. Yeah. Strange how they did that. Like just nuked all those guys off the record. Fuck him. that top right there, they'll show them

showing how to grow new plants. It's the big gods to the right and the little humans to the left. They're showing the humans how to agriculture and stuff. Yeah. Jesse Michaels posted a new podcast with this guy talking about how the pyramids Jeffrey. Oh, yeah. Have you heard of

Jeffrey? I've heard of them. Yeah, land of chem. Oh, dude, his stuff is good. So go back up, please. It says, new theory suggests Egyptian pyramids were industrial chemical manufacturing plants intended to produce the products necessary for agriculture and metalworking. The acid residue is still on the walls of the Great Pyramid. Jeffrey Drum, Land of Chem, is an independent researcher who has spent nine years building the

case that the pyramids made fertilizer and industrial acids powered by the Earth's own electrical charge, and the chemistry backs him up. Samples taken from inside the Great Pyram in the 1970s found a crust of calcium sulfate up to an inch thick on the walls of the Queen's chamber, and calcium sulfate is exactly what dilute sulfuric acid leaves behind when it meets limestone. A PhD chemist, Brian Cohen, has independently concluded the Great Pyramid produced sulfuric acid.

Each pyramid made a different chemical from methane extracted beneath the step pyramid to hydrochloric acid in the pyramid of Coffrey. The red pyramid made ammonia, and the smell is still there, strongest in the deepest chamber and fading towards the entrance. The usual explanation is bats, but Drum says the analysis of the staining on its walls found metal oxides, including thorium and nothing a bat colony leaves behind. Whoa.

The whole plateau is wired. Iron veins run through the bedrock from beneath the pyramid out across Giza, and Drum has mapped them. Analysis found precious metals in rare earths along the length, along their length, one sample at 35% platinum. The long stone pits beside the Great Pyramid as soon to have held ceremonial boats are in his reading circuit breakers in that network.

Okay, so his stuff, you got to dive into, it's really good. His stuff fits exactly with this model that I'm telling you about. Like the connection of these nodes and where the chambers are and stuff are tuning into different types of energy, different frequencies essentially.

And the whole basis for this alchemical process I was telling you about with like the that goes into the stone and makes the stones ring and all this stuff, that's a tuning mechanism to tune the rocks to do a certain thing. And how they achieve this is through ultrasonic cavitation. It's like sonoluminescence, that video I was showing you where it flashes. So when it does that, you have a release of energy that could be harvested for other things. And then you have a chemical reaction that is very likely used for what he was saying is. And that would be the mechanism for terraforming is creating these these. elements that are needed to grow. That's what we fertilize our plants with,

is these basic things. So the process is building a geometric interface between the natural energies that are already here and are already tuned for this planet. And then you have the non-moving parts mechanism for this whole thing, which is the beauty of it all, as the cavitation aspect of it. And if you look at, so like Anchor Y and the Steppe

Pyramid of DeSher, they have these really, deep wells are the best examples I can come up with for this. But these very deep wills would tap into the aquifers that were underneath them. And so when you tap into a certain frequency, let's say it's, you know, in the ultrasonic range. Very specific ultrasonic frequency will create a very specific element. And these chambers seem are obviously tuned acoustically. And the wells below them, they look like they're tuned acoustically as well. So we have this filter. We have a pyramid that's filtering out. And then we have a chamber that's isolating a certain frequency and amplifying that certain frequency into the ground.

And then when that frequency interacts with the well, the ultrasonic cavitation goes in there, cleans the water because when you have cavitation, you have this, basically it boils the water. It's how you would heat water. There's a guy that made a little device that you could stick in a cup, and you just pumped it with air,

and it would boil the water, and it was doing the exact same thing. And so you have this method of cleaning the water and creating the elements that you need for fertilization or industrial processes, or anything that we see that they had. And you would distribute that out into your network, which is the entire Giza Plateau is filled with these giant shafts

that looked like they held liquid or that they were containers of something. And then you have the sacred lakes that were the purified water byproduct of what happened on these sites. And that sacred water was used for the humans. So the purified structure water was used for your rituals and your conscious activities as the human, whereas the stuff that Jeffrey's talking about was used for the plant life into fertilized plants. So you're getting all you need out of this one device, and then the bigger the device grows, the

the system gets in Egypt or India or America, then the bigger populations that you can support. And we're now seeing that India, Egypt, and America all had populations that were vastly larger than we expected because of this process, in my opinion. And so they knew how to work with it. knew how to use it and then they basically built it out on scale like what we do with our devices and the question is how the hell did they learn that that's the question that's the big one the big one is do we take them seriously i think we're do we take their legend seriously we're more we more understand the process of what they were doing than where they got it which is wild right we're getting closer to that than where we got it right like how how how how how

who where how how long or why Why? Right. Why is the question. But we were assuming that people beyond that period were simply hunter-gatherers with stone tools. They probably were, like, they probably were concurrent civilization that we're doing that. Like they are right now. Like they are right now.

And then, you know, when they say like, you know, Nephilim or whoever bred with the humans, they probably were taking some of the best stock of them and being like, you guys are going to be us now. And then they get into this cycle of conscious, you know, transfer. And then you have civilizations that last for 5,000 years. What the fuck. And you have Stargates. And then you have Stargates, yeah. Well, that would make a lot of sense. Like the whole, you know, the gate phenomenon, the doorways to nowhere phenomenon?

Yes. You've seen them in Peru. Yes. They're in Saudi Arabia. Like, Hegra and Saudi Arabia. You know what that is? I've heard the word. I don't know what it is.

Jay. Pull up Hegaret. That, this stuff. So a key component of this system is that the information is transferred in the rock itself. Tesla proved that this was possible that you could transfer energy and information through the stone substrate of the earth. So if you can do this, you basically, all you need to do is create gates in the rock and you can remote view like a hologram any place on earth. You just go through and then you have this geometric gate that you recognize because it's this. geometry that every culture is using and then you basically pop out of a rock in your spirit

form that's what the Egyptian said that Murk Abba could travel through these things so so yeah you have stuff in the middle of deserts that what's the conventional explanation for these things tombs tombs hell of a fucking tomb yeah must be a dope dude that died look at that thing you see this the same phenomenon in uh jama goo uh l-y-c-a-licea l-a licea Hold on before we go there. Is this in the middle of nowhere? It's in the middle of Saudi Arabian desert, yeah. Go down to that cat on the bottom.

So she's standing there. Look at them. He's like, hey, check it out. This is my home. I wonder what that means to them. I wonder what they think it is. Genuinely, I would talk to a lot of Egyptians when I was in Egypt. I don't think they're very aware of a lot of this stuff.

I think they're quite disconnected from. So there was something that happened that wiped these people. people out. Yeah. And do you think that this aligns with the younger dryest impact? I think that these probably are post that. Post that? Just because they're really, they're really crispy.

Crispy in terms of lack of erosion? Yeah. Yeah. Like, and they're in the middle of nowhere. You'd expect to see a lot of wind water erosion on this thing. So who? So who? Water there now?

Yeah. What, Jimmy? Water? Yeah, on the bottom there. Like it would have, like it's dry now, like Venice? You know, they're all elevated. Like, these are docks. Like, I'm thinking of Lake Travis when it's empty, you know.

And look at the discoloration on the bottom part versus the top part indicates that the top part was exposed and the bottom part was probably underwater. And you see this water line across Wadi Rum and Petra and Saudi Arabia and Egypt. There's like a huge discrepancy on, you know, Sphinx shows it. Sure. Huge discrepancy. And that's, like, kind of a indicator, in my opinion, of what things were and where. they were in that timeline. And we're super aware that like especially when it comes to sub-Zaharan

Africa when they find these whale skeletons. Like the the giant ones that are still there. Yeah. Insane. So this what do you think that was though? I think those are like the transit stations. Yeah. I genuinely like maybe not for physical bodies. I don't know if that's like I can't come up with a mechanism that makes that work where you deconstruct your matter. But if you if you, if, The Egyptians could clearly travel with consciousness. They show that in their hieroglyphs. And the Hindu speak of it as well. And so if you could do that, I feel like those were more of, let's say you go to a deep meditative state.

You're aligned in your temple and you have this maybe possibly psychedelics or some other thing, amplifying the connectivity in your brain and giving it abilities that it doesn't normally have. To connect with another thing about the psychedelic experience is you feel connected with everything. all at once, right? Right. So if you can enhance that feeling and be connected with your whole environment, then navigating that environment would require merging with it, but then emerging somewhere with a pattern you recognize.

And that pattern is why you see these doorways carved in there, because in the non-physical conscious state that they talk about, the only thing you really kind of decipher is geometry, right? Well, on psychedelics, you see a lot of, you know, torus shapes and fractals and stuff like that. But in this world, if you're tuned in with that and you're traveling kind of consciously through the rock substrate, then finding the gateways to exit would be the goal, essentially. And that's why you see these doorways carved in the middle of nowhere in Peru. And the same thing in Saudi Arabia is, in my opinion, that's how they talk to each other. They're like, yo, this is happening over in Peru.

Send help. Somehow or another. Well, that's also one of the weirder things about these temples, particularly some of these temples that exist in India, where they have this incredible harmonic frequency inside of them when they're chanting. And you have to think this is by design. And what is the purpose of that? And is it to achieve a certain state of consciousness? And what kind of consciousness can be achieved? particularly imagine you're on psychedelics so one of the things about psychedelics is do you know what ikoros are have you heard of those

iceroes are these songs that they sing when you are under the the spell of DMT and they do it with these ayahuasca rituals but i've had it done i've experienced it where you play the songs on DMT and it makes the DMT dance like in this very strange, it synchronizes with the music, the experience, instead of being completely chaotic and random, it synchronizes, like, directly. And like the patterns dance with the music. They work together in some very, very strange way.

Now, you've got to imagine that if that's the case, that would also be the case with chanting. That would also be the case with if they had songs, if they had something they could do, There was some dance they could do with sound while they were inside these incredibly resonant chambers where like the one that I sent you on Instagram. Bedsie Caves. Yeah. I'll send this to Jamie because this is crazy.

When you hear how this guy is chanting inside of it and you hear the sound that it's making while he's doing that, you're like, what, why would you do that? Like what is involved in this fucking thing? specific frequency too like the it resonates at a fundamental on each one of these things um I don't know let me hear this jamie but this is outside I'm sending you something I just send it to yeah yeah that's it that's it and this is from this gentleman's name Liam Richards Liam Richards freaking crazy Take a look at this. It is freaking crazy. This is called a chatya. It's a chanting whole. Its whole purpose is for chanting. It is like nothing I've ever seen. Listen to the acoustics in here. So the Buddhist monks, they will come in here and they would meditate or chant that would perform meditation in here, walking around the stupa.

and chants like ohm oh it lasts so long can you hear that it reverberates for like 15 or 20 seconds and this seems like this is all carved out of stone yeah not built but carved out of the stone you can't you can't make one mistake in it

and and that's the thing with these this stuff too is these things are tuned all of them. The Egyptian chambers, the Hindu chambers, in cathedrals especially, they're all tuned to a specific resonance. And that resonance is what you'll usually find carved into the floral patterns on the wall. So these resonances were kind of the key to go to these either places of information or possibly even locations like what we were just talking about. It's like maybe Hegra had a location that looked like a five-pointed star and then maybe The temples in Egypt had one that looked like an eight-pointed star or something like, or a flower, you know?

And so if you know that, if you know the resting resonance, then that drives your conscious experience like what you're saying in these altered states. And it's also why psychedelics are so popular in music festivals and stuff like that is because music, music drives the experience. That was the second part of like, I was always into this stuff. But music when I got into music and making music was the, just kicked everything off because that is the, physics mechanism of the interaction with your your neurology your vagus nerve is directly connected to your ear so the main nerve of your whole body is connected to your ear it goes to that before it goes to your brain for processing this is for survival it loud noises generally kept us alive if if we heard you know the the tree snapping and that tiger is behind you and you run that mechanism bypasses

the processing centers of the brain, particularly the amygdala, which is the fear, fear-based part of the brain, right? So, fire or flight. And so if you bypass that and you are in a state of, you know, peace and serenity and protection and maybe a temple environment, maybe a music festival environment, whatever you feel, then you can achieve a level of abstraction from your physical body, meaning you're not paying attention to your sensory inputs as much as your conscious experience. And then once you have that detached state, that is more mobile than your physical body. I mean, even on like a DMT experience, you feel almost weightless. It feels like the, you know, you're coming out of your physical self. And if you can direct that using sound

and you're in an environment that's connected with everything else, then you have your your method of information exchange or at least, you know, some sort of conscious travel that we can't really understand yet. Fuck. Yeah, the music sound is like the most vital component to all of this because we we drive that experience. Sound is the only medium that we can actually manipulate other than our immediate physical surroundings.

So like talking to you, you know, the sound travels and we can manipulate the sonic environment of this room just by speaking. That's how they interfaced with the geometric environment of the temple complex. Now, the design, where this stuff came from, that stuff is a completely other, like how they know how to route this stuff and what signals and frequencies work with what? Don't know that yet. But what we do know directly is that that has a huge impact on your experience, whether it's in a cathedral or an Egyptian temple or a music festival. All of this stuff is happening to the brain in a realm of feeling instead of thinking. So if you bridge those two, then you have nois.

You have the feeling that comes with the thinking in this environment that is so life-changing that it's the direct download of information. It reminds me of a Dennis McKenna quote about if you, the more you ignite the bonfire of wisdom, the more you illuminate the surface area of ignorance. I might have butcher that. But essentially, the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know. Yeah. Like the more we learn about this stuff, the more we realize, like, what are we even talking about? Like, this is really crazy. Like, I feel like we're doing some sort of archaeology. Like, we're like brushing off the dirt and discovering, like, this is crazy. Whatever it is, like the undeniable aspects of like that temple. How old is that? Who built that? Why? What was your motivation? How did you do it? Where are your tools? Why did you do it? Why has it reached this specific hurts? Why does it reach this specific hurts? Why does it reach? the specific frequency. Why does it resonate that way? But this is the gateway, I think.

What you're saying is the gateway into where we're going. And how the fuck did they figure out how to do it? That we get lost in how did they move the big stone, which is also an equally perplexing problem. But the why for me is where it's going to go because that is substantial in the sense that you can prove it. If we can alter the experience of somebody and the conscious experience, and we can drive that experience in a temple environment or at least an acoustically tuned environment with

this geometric ratio, maybe a recreation of an Egyptian temple or something like that, we can recreate that experience and prove that something is going on. They're already trying to map the DMT world at like Stanford or something. Add that to the list of experiments, you know, go to a cathedral, rent it out for a day and play with some frequencies in there while a bunch of people are on this, you know, sustained DMT intervenous trip and have them have them see what's going on because that's the only way I can't I can't go do that experiment myself I'm going to get kicked out of the cathedral because I'm going to be acting like a lunatic I need permission but listen man this is a lot to absorb for people so I think it's probably good to end it right here

we definitely should do this again because it's really fascinating stuff and I commend you for the amount of time that you spent absorbing all this and your ability to recite it is very impressive Thank you. It's nutty shit, man. It's easy to get sucked down into that rabbit hole. That's my day-to-day, dude. Well, it's awesome, man. I'm glad you're doing it.

Baseforge.us is your Instagram. YouTube? Yeah, same thing. Same thing on YouTube. Doing a lot more live stuff this year, too. What are you doing live? So I'm leaving for CPAC tomorrow, the conference for procession and ancient knowledge that's in Cali,

and I'll be speaking there. And then coming back, and then I'm going to be playing a music festival called Wakon in Arkansas. And then after that, I'll be back here for a conference called Quest for Ancients. It's downtown Austin to be speaking and playing there. Is that the October thing? Yeah. Okay.

That's October 16th through the 18th. Okay. Yeah. So that one's going to be really cool. I'm debuting this brand new project that I've been working on for like four years there. So that's, yeah, basically a synthesis of everything that we talked about with visuals and music. Oh, amazing. Yeah, it's going to be pretty sweet.

Well, dude, thank you very much for being here. I really appreciate it. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. All right. Bye, everybody.