The Joe Rogan Experience - #2570 - Mystery Boys

Episode Date: October 23, 2026

Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell are comedians and co-hosts of the "Mystery Boys" podcast. They also host their respective podcasts, "The Derp with Kurp" and "The Duncan Trussell Family Hour."www.ymhs...tudios.com/mystery-boys-podcast/www.youtube.com/@duncantrussellfamilyhourwww.duncantrussell.comwww.youtube.com/@kurtmetzgercomedywww.kurtmetzgercomedy.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan Use code JRE for 20% off your membership Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. So, hey fellas. Hey, what's up? So what is this internet thing? Explain this to me. I didn't want to do it off the air.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I think Jamie should explain it because it's out of my league. It's something to do with PHP certificates, some ability to counterfeit websites. You go into a website and it does some kind of check. And this thing is a massive security. that's existed, I think, for 14 years, right, Jamie? Like 14 years. There's the, I saw this popping up yesterday online. Okay, it's the best.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Warnings from a bunch of different Twitter accounts, including the FBI Cyberdivision. Let's read this. FBI Cyberdivision. Two critical vulnerabilities have been identified in PHP, a widely used programming language that powers websites and web applications. These vulnerabilities, blah, blah, blah, could allow malicious cyber actors to remotely execute code and PHP core potentially compromising
Starting point is 00:01:08 sensitive data and networks. FBI urges organizations to take the following steps now. So it tells you all the things to do to... So we're fucked. So what's happening is AI is eventually going to figure out the code of everything that exists
Starting point is 00:01:24 and there will be no more encryption. That's going to be gone. There's going to be no more passwords. That'll be useless. And it's going to get very squarely because money is online. Haven't they already made that, I mean, that octopus scandal was all about that back door. They put
Starting point is 00:01:40 into everything way back when, so what is the octopus scandal? Which one's that? You know, Octopus. I mean, it's connected to Efts and all them. It was like security soft. You always do that. You know, you know. I feel like he's had a guester. I don't know but not Octopus. Have you heard that before? Yeah, there's a whole documentary.
Starting point is 00:01:55 There you go. The Octopus murders. Oh, the Octopus murders. That's connected to that. Oh, okay. So, yeah. I watched one episode of that or the beginning of it. I didn't watch the whole I heard it's fucking incredible. Yeah, the guy managed to like slash both his, like the way he committed suicide.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Right. It's very suspicious. Like the Enron whistleblower that shot himself in the head twice? Yeah. That guy's. Did he shoot himself in the head twice? Twice. Like Gary? Whoopsies. Really like the guy? Like Gary Webb? Gary Webb did it twice. No, maybe the Enron guy didn't it. Maybe I'm just thinking of Gary Webb. I might be intoxicated. Who's the one that
Starting point is 00:02:30 Clintons? They always said that they killed. That one's Vince Foster That's a fucking weird one man The Strange Death of Vince Foster is a great book What's that? I read that book in like fuck It was like the early 2000s I think that guy was on Jimmy's show just recently
Starting point is 00:02:46 And I didn't know that And he was saying No the Clintons didn't do it They took the blame for it But no it's some FBI associated gang Trafficking gang that did it He probably didn't want to go along With the thing that they're all into you know
Starting point is 00:02:58 Well perhaps there's probably a bunch of factors Right because for sure while Clinton was governor of Arkansas, that's when all that Barry Seal stuff was going on in Meena, Arkansas where they're dropping off Coke. So there's that. Right, so there's that for sure. But then there's also that scheme
Starting point is 00:03:15 that they were doing that real estate scandal. He wasn't shot twice, but there's weird stuff about it. Oh, wait, I forget to tell you the most... So Gary Webb was the one who got shot in the head twice, right? Vince Foster, there's the thing that blew my mind, because... And Jimmy has sat on this for a year because he thought it sounded too far out. There's an interview.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And I couldn't believe when I saw it. thought. The guy, when he was researching, there was a reporter that was like a supposed like, you know, like how I consider Ben Swan to be a good guy reporter. It was supposedly like that, but he wasn't. He was a piece of shit, helping cover it up according to, according to this guy. And that guy's name, that reporter, was Chris Ruddy, who's now the guy who runs newsmax. He's a billionaire now. Wow. That's what this guy said. Now, I can't prove it and whatever. How did a news reporter become a billionaire?
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm sure legitimately. I'm sure there's nothing. You know, I don't want to be... It's really normal. I get pegged as one of these conspiracy guys, which I'm not. You're definitely not. Not at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So it was the Whitewater real estate scandal that Vince Foster was also entangled in. So there was a lot going down with that. And then they found him dead, but there was more blood missing from his body than was at the scene of the crime. His body clearly had been moved. Also, the gun was in his hand. This guy wrote it. This motherfucker wrote the book.
Starting point is 00:04:31 He's in on the crime. Cover up that guy was telling us. That's amazing. Wow. That's amazing. That's amazing because that book is real. So now I have to rethink everything that I read in that book. I take you that interview, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:44 You should watch because that guy was really fascinating. I had never even thought about Vince Foster for a long time. It's like what they always say Trump is doing. He's doing 4D chess. Like these guys are. Like some people are. But just not in your favor, idiots. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah. He's doing 4D chess. He tells you everything. Remember he came on here and he was like sounding pretty good. and then immediately rug pulled everyone. Like, how long that take? The rugpole of Trump, would you say? How long for we were to warn Iran?
Starting point is 00:05:11 The war in Iran was, what, a year? Yeah, he waited a year. Well, then we have the stupid war on narcote terror, which is always fair. Anybody talk about that's a fucking lying phony. So the Department of War, the guy has got all the bril cream in his fucking hair and the Templar tattoos.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Hegsith. That's right. He's got his name. Yeah, Hegson. So that, but you. You think the war on drugs is fake? Like when they're blowing up those, what do you think is going on? Well, I think most of them probably marijuana guys, not even going to America.
Starting point is 00:05:42 The idea of Venezuelan cocaine is preponder. I used to do a lot of cocaine. I heard of every kind of cocaine. Never heard of Venezuela. That's true. I've never heard of Venezuela. This is pure Venezuelan, dude. Is it only Venezuela that they were blowing up those boats?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Well, maybe they were moving the blow through Venezuela. You already know this. Right, but I think they were probably trying to cripple their money. train before they invaded them. Oh, I was reading about what they did to them. What? Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. The weapon, the brain bleed. Oh, it's like swells your shit up.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah, they said it doesn't, it's non-lethal in a sense because it doesn't actually kill you. The Havana syndrome thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The stuff they use in Venezuela. But you're fucking done. I don't think they did use it. They boil your brain. They boil your ass. I don't think they did use. I think Maduro and his wife they got their asset out of there because
Starting point is 00:06:27 the regime's still in place, by the way. I don't even know what the point would be of taking him out if you still have the Well, let's take this one step at a time. Pentagon allows DHS to test a heat ray weapon for possible use of the border. Wow. Okay. But what is that, find out that thing that they... Discombobulator?
Starting point is 00:06:43 The discompulator. Yeah, is that what they're calling it? Yeah, but they were talking about it today, like what it actually does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at least on this article that someone sent me on Twitter. Doesn't it raise the temperature of your, like, cells by a little bit or something? It just, like, fries your idiot. It's a microwave.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It's just they were saying that it doesn't kill you, so it's non-lethal, technically. Technically. But you're never the same. You're fucked. You have burns in your veins. They say less than lethal, I thought. The beanbags are not as scary as the rubber bullets. The rubber bullets take your eyes out.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Those take your eyes out. There's people who have lost eyeballs to rubber bullets. People, they shoot you right in face. The wallers baccule them everywhere. But the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane. Insane. These like super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets. on everyone's falling down shitting their pants their eyes are bleeding I bet that's
Starting point is 00:07:36 not true I bet it is true so those super soldier helmets that's the Andrews they have that I'm not saying they don't the heat raise the story I'm saying I don't think they used it there last 24 hours my type of non-lethal weapon right right right but I'm saying what they used in Venezuela they were discussing specifically like what they used in Venezuela as a non-lethal weapon Venezuela yeah Trump administration so this is different A heat gun. Because if they're already testing it, they fucking did this already in the Venezuela stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Whatever it was, whoever was talking about it, I should probably have saved it. I'm just trying to stay offline. I'm just trying to keep it. Are you really? How many hours of screen time do you think you're doing a day? I still watch stuff, but it's mostly YouTube videos. Okay. Most of my use on my phone, if I'm bored, is YouTube videos.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah. And it's all pretty either educational or interesting. You had to guess social media, how many? An hour, hour a day. That's admirable. I'm trying. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. If you're thinking about building a website, you should try Squarespace.
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Starting point is 00:10:00 Not what you want to hear when a pipe dispersed and your basement is flooding. That's why intact insurance answers 2 million claim calls per year within 20 seconds. So instead of hearing this lovely track, you'll hear this in seconds. Hello, Intact Insurance. What's the average screen time, Jamie? Probably five or six hours. That's insane. Yeah, it's probably five or six hours.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And on good days, I have zero hours. Good days, I just stay completely off of it. Those are the best days. But today wasn't a good day. Today I got up early, had to take my kid somewhere, and then I got up in the morning and did a little work. Then I was tired and I took a shit. And that's when I started watching my phone.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Then I watched my phone a little bit and I'm like, all right, I got to get to work. Yeah. But it was like after eating breakfast and sitting there with your phone on, you just feel like such a loser. You're like a wasted time. Seven fucking hours a day. I'm usually editing. It's crazy. It would be fair to me at my hours.
Starting point is 00:10:51 49 hours a week. Now imagine kids with no self-control and teachers that aren't paying attention. so they have access to them at school. Oh, yeah. Dude, if they are paying attention, it's not good. There's nothing good. It's all poison. Most of it's poison.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Most of it's poison. But you can curate it and make it not poison if you're just smart with what you do. Like, I get something out of YouTube videos. I get something out of, like, things that are interesting, like ancient history stuff and stuff on cosmology and astronomy. That stuff is interesting to me. I'm always going to, like, look at those. I'm just fascinated.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Do you guys remember the, sorry. Do you guys remember the YouTube Spider-Man videos? Do you remember those? The really weird... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of the reasons for the apocalypse, yes. Can you pull that up, Jamie, do you mind pulling up the Spider-Man Elsa videos? Which is, if you left your kid on YouTube long enough before they changed it, it was like a slippery slope that led to increasingly fucked up videos.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And no one was sure where these videos were coming from. Right. And it was... Do you don't know what the final explanation was? What? So this is the one that I would have explained it with is, okay, so they basically use an algorithm. They know kids psychologically are fascinated with like getting a shot or pregnancy or whatever. Or violence.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Or violence or bugs. And they mix it together into gibberish. It's colorful. So the kids stay on it. And then, okay, so that's like the mean. And that's probably pretty reasonable. But I think that's testing something too. I don't think it was just, oh, it was just these greedy people were doing a thing.
Starting point is 00:12:24 There is no way something like that exists that our government didn't learn everything they could about and how to weaponize. And also it was probably them. It gave you, can you find an actual cartoon of it, Jamie? Because it gave you a weird feeling watching them. Like it felt bad. There was a lot of the cartoons that'd get drunk and someone would smash their head and there'd be blood all over the place. They'd get a shot or Spider-Man's pregnant. And then after he gets birth, he's so relieved.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Like he took a shit. Spider-Man got pregnant? Yes. They're gibberish things. But that's to go right to the subconscious. Wasn't there some of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? They were like using comments and code words. Are you mean most of the things for kids?
Starting point is 00:13:03 They were just so like they were blocks and every other thing like that? They'd have like kid videos like, you know, kids in a swimming pool and then they would, in the comments would be the exact time where if you went to that frame you could see a kid's ass. Like that's what they were doing is so that you'd have to waste your time watching the whole, watching the whole video. What's the time stamp? If that's a test, if you know, then you're going to jail. The timestamp? Generally, like 322. Generally.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Is there a number that's attached to, like, pedophile stuff? Like, 420s attached to weed? I don't know. Probably. They probably know, like 187 is murder. Probably. It seems like they got a lot of code words, for sure. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:13:43 It's a whole thriving underground. Beef jerky. Yep. Right? You know, pizza also could be cocaine. They should, whoever the fuck wrote those emails, that's a lot. they should be brought into a room publicly. Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, why hasn't that happened? Well, they brought in a blood naked and he decided he didn't do anything. What is beef jerky? Yeah, they didn't. That guy just, I met him once. He was really gross. His neighbors do him for like 20 years. He had a massage table in his living room.
Starting point is 00:14:09 My wife said, this man's gross. Yeah, and we left. We left. And then the emails come out. How many emails did he have with the guy? I don't know, bringing a ton of kids there to the person who's so creepy. He's bringing all their kids and some other kids. It's just a vacation.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Ages. Relax. You go on vacation. Hey, you're a gal money. People love the beach. You bring extra kids when you go on vacation, right? Just the beach. To a creeps house?
Starting point is 00:14:32 A guy that you said was really creepy. It's like spare tires. Someone dies. Yeah. Yeah. Extra kids. Yeah. It's really spooky, man.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And it's really bizarre. But now the new, you know what the new thing is? It's like, stop talking about Epstein. Is that the new thing? Well, yeah, Fentes has been saying that. Like, Fentz has been saying just. Oh, not just him. A lot of Chris Ruddy Israel trip takers, like your Gavin McGinnis and what have you.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Okay, but devil's advocate. Please. Why are they doing that? Do you think it's possibly that they think, hey, look, nothing's going to change. This Epstein stuff is a giant distraction. There's real shit we should be paying attention to right now, like the midterms, like Iran, like whatever the fuck is happening in France, like all the stuff. Question. So you're saying the cannibal pedophile thing is less of a real.
Starting point is 00:15:21 real thing than the midterms? No, what I'm saying is the people that are online that are, you know, air quote, influencers and people talking about the news. They're doing it on purpose because they're paid. Then the morons that go along with it say the thing you're saying. Perhaps. But this is why I'm saying devil's advocate. So like if you're asking.
Starting point is 00:15:39 That's a fake one. We have a real one. I feel like a fraud now because I know it is. I think is it on the sea serpent table out there? The sea serpent tables where you keep your bacculum. Bro, have you seen that table? Oh, it's the dopest. That guy, the Dow, the guy that did our table in our green room at the club.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Okay. With the snake. Yeah. That guy's amazing, man. He did, do we have a, oh, dude, he's so good. He's so good. He made me an alligator. There's an alligator out there that's, like, surfacing out of the water.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Oh, cool. That I have in the pool room. But on the table, there's a sea serpent one. It's the fucking shit, man. It's got boats and the sea serpent's coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram. I'm down on the door.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Smokes a Gars dude. It's disgusting. Oh, wait a little, hold on. But before we get to that, please, pause and find that table. Just while we're on the subject, I'll forget it. Because I want to give this guy some credit. Because he's really fucking good. He's super talented.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I love you got a sea serpent table with a finnic walrus dick on it. Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Stephen Ronella. So this is, it is. It's the underscore Dow. Oh, that's called. So that's the... So that's the table that's in our studio. That's the one that we had a saw and half to get upstairs.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Because it was originally for here, rather, for the studio. And then I said, that belongs in the comedy club. Yeah. That really belongs as the green room. Find the sea serpent one, though, Jamie. He made me a... Where's the from? I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Hold on. Go right. Go to the left. That's it. Right there. Click on that. That's it. Look at that fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Look at it's got a boat. And look at the sea serpent coming out of the water. This is where it gets crazy at the end. Oh, that's not ours. It's not exactly ours. That's not exactly ours. That's just another one. That's another one. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I thought that was art. Oh, that's an octopus one. That's different. That's awesome, dude. He's insane. Scott Dow. He's really fucking talented. Oh, look at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's underneath it, too. That's fucking cool. Oh, dude, he's so sick. And he does a lot of it. The beginning work, he does it all with chainsaws, man. Wow. Does he have, like, smaller, like a number two chainsaws? That's a smaller.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Wow. Look at that. to the nitty gritty and then he starts using complex tools but um okay it's before that swimming dog classic swimming dog table we've had it for a few years now so this is only like six months ago i know but he reposts up i follow him on instagram um he's super fucking talented though man he does a lot of these now wow when we blew him up on the internet he uh he got real popular but he was real popular oh i know a guy makes fake walrus dick It's on my Instagram.
Starting point is 00:18:22 What is that made out of? Is that made out of bone? Scott Baculate. No, that's fake. That's fake. But the one we have outside is actually a... But it's a sound design.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Fossilized, giant walrus dick. But what's the material? Sorry. Originally it was a bone. No, he... This is some kind of wood. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It's fake. I mean, who cares? It's a fraud. Are you sure? Can I feel it? You're sure it's fake? Go ahead. I'm a good detector.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I'm actually holding the tip. You're holding the base. A lot of it's just hell Let me smell it Does it smell right? No, it does smell fake It tastes weird too I noticed that right away
Starting point is 00:18:57 Does it smell a fake war-stick From a mile away? I noticed it tasted weird The second I had it How many guys have fisted each other With one of these? A lot. For sure more than one
Starting point is 00:19:06 Usually we sit on these and do it Many But if you have a baculum And I have a baculum Okay then it's not as rare as we think Because we both have them You didn't know I had one Right?
Starting point is 00:19:16 You've got me good with that one So how many guys have stuffed these up their ass. That's the question. More than a thousand? I was just thinking. Yeah, easily. Easily. You know,
Starting point is 00:19:26 I said joking about Texas has stronger. It has stronger a dildo loss than gunwess. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it does. And so this is the kind of thing that I think is going to, well, it leads to you. If they can't get it in the shops, they're going to get it from walled that's right.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Or they're going to carve their own, you know? Yeah. Good old-fashioned ingenuity. Prison style. Is this more of a Tala rica or the other guy issue? Walrus Baculum Cain with 24-Cower gold-plated handle Wow, is that the former owner?
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah, look at him. I have this in my rectum. Starting bid only 10 bucks? Wow, that's a good deal. Oh, this is a long time ago. 24-carat gold. Oh, from God's ear to my taint. And a photo of Wayne Hudson, original owner.
Starting point is 00:20:12 The current bid is only 128 bucks. Take a picture of me and keep it with this whale dick, You gotta put headphones on so we could all hear each other. Otherwise we're gonna talk over each other. I was looking for ElsaGate. It said, it keeps seeing videos from about a year ago where it's saying Elsigate 3.0 is starting up and a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it. And then
Starting point is 00:20:29 again, I was trying to like cut in because I saw this pop up and I was like, what the I'm always late to that? Fuck is this. Oh my God. Is candy? Is that AI? That's AI? No, it's not. I don't want to see this, Jamie. I don't want to see that. It's not real though, is it? It's not. Oh my
Starting point is 00:20:45 fucking. And so you leave your kids sitting in front of the TV, they're going to end up seeing a little red canary get decapitated. That's why you can't do that. But then it turns into candy, so it's okay. Yeah, that's true. All right, let's talk about AG1 Pro for a second because it's one of the smartest things you can add to your routine. It's just one scoop, once a day, multivitamins, probiotics, superfoods, all in there. Plus, it's got enhanced support for muscle strength and recovery built right into it. And what really makes AG1 Pro so special is the creatine. It's a highly-sexual. It's a highly studied compound. I'm talking over
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Starting point is 00:21:58 Fucking weird. It's fucking weird. What are those videos? I don't know. What do you think is the... Somebody had to put effort into these. Well, yeah, it's to speak to subconscious. It's like a twilight language.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So what do you think it's doing to your kids? Like what is the goal of these videos? It's discombobulating them. It's giving them nightmares. It's like he's saying. It's getting deep into your psyche. Let's turn them into a fucking gender blob. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah. I mean, this is the kind of shit. The person who like, this is all the shooters probably what they're watching his kids. Go back to that. What the pregnant Spider-Man. This is shit that in MK. Ultra in the 50s you'd have to watch. You'd be forced to watch it all night.
Starting point is 00:22:33 The second video says like Vietnam. Ping pong balls on your eyes and have to watch that shit. And they just get pumped out. Like, that's what's weird about it is they just appear. These channels appear. They get populated with these bizarre animations. They disappear. They reappear.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. So somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons. That's right. Yeah, shit. And also, there's a lot of animation in Vietnam. A lot of people send their shit to get animated there. Hey, how about this? We already know the damage just growing up with Disney cartoons did to everyone.
Starting point is 00:23:06 We already see the damage of that. What did it do? Disney adults, for one thing? Do you think that's a thing that should exist? You don't think that's... They're happy. They're happy. If they weren't doing that, they'd be trading coins.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Says the guy dressed like an elf. From a hot dog. Listen to the fucking hot dog. It's bad. Listen to the techno cowboy. Listen to the CIA cowboy. Sorry, sorry. Jesus Christ, we're on the air.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Fuck, dude. It blows your cover. Peter Thiel's going to be texting you after this is over. He's texting me three times already during this show. I only hang out with the Soros Boy. So what do you think happened to the Disney Boys? The Disney Boys? People to watch Disney.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Wait, is that? Disney Boys. Disney Boys sounds like the worst shit of all time. Whatever it is horrible. We should make an AI show called the Disney Boys. Just based on these guys that are the cool guys that are a part of the Disney gang. You know Disney Gangs? The Disney Boys.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Like you have gangs where you have to do certain things to be in the gang. Yeah. Like you have to get kicked off of a ride. You have to disrupt. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's part of, like, some of the Disney gangs. Yeah. Well, I used to be a Kia boy, but I just step it down because I had an ankle bracelet, so we stepped down to being a Disney boy.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Disney boy. Those kind of hijinks. Kia, like the car company? The Kia boys are still Kiyas. They're easiest to steal Kiyahs, or there's gangs of Kia boys that just steal Kia. Oh, I have heard of that. I've never heard of that. Apparently, kias are easy to steal.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, with like a USB key or something really easy. They could do it about 30-7. No, it's hilarious. Did you say a USB key? Yeah, it's like a hot friend of keys. God. They could rip them off real fast. It's that easy?
Starting point is 00:24:48 There was 15, like 12. Doesn't take a CIA guy to know that's not going to be. It can't be that exciting to steal a Kia, though. Well, when you're 15. It is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Kia boys. That's true. You don't even have a driver's list of shit. All of a sudden you're driving?
Starting point is 00:25:00 This guy that got shot, he had a Kia. Really? Yeah. I was like, oh, maybe he got assassinating. Then I heard Kia. I'm like, no, they were just taking his Kia. Oh, that's sad. Is that really what they were doing?
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's so sad. They shot him because they were stealing his Kia? As soon as I heard he had a key, I'm like, that's a plausible reason. So depressing. Interesting. I just abandon all investigation because there's a key involved. I abandon all investigation. He's like, it's solved.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Well, I wasn't not, look, I wasn't being paid to be on that case. Mystery he solved. Mystery he saw. Mystery boys don't work for free. Alex is a friend, but until I get. I feel like Disney Boys would be a really good show. The Disney Boys? The cool guys.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It's kind of all their shows. That of all of the different games. at Disney, these are the coolest. They're the Disney Boys. And everybody wants to get in on the Disney boys. Yeah, yeah. They're into some sick shit, I'll day that. They're gatekeepers.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah. So what do you think happen to people? What's the major damage from watching Disney? I mean, everything about it is designed to get into the subconscious and get that sense of magic that, like, forever, you know, to the point of when you're an adult. And then meanwhile, while you're getting poisoned with autism poisons, to make people that buy all the products,
Starting point is 00:26:11 80% of them never drive a car. If you ever watch Love on the Spectrum, which liberals love it, by the way, you can see that they're just a lot of fun. You tell them who they, what sex they are. You can tell them who they like. They're weird about it. They don't really reproduce until it's like socially okay. They, you fuck up Star Wars 10 years in a row making shitty Star Wars and they'll still love it and cry when the preview comes on. Those are perfect citizens, okay?
Starting point is 00:26:35 And then you got that nice Disney thing to fixate on because you got people, you know, It's not like being a psychopath. They want to connect, but they have a hard time connecting. So you think that's by design. Like they're making people. The most compartmentalized people. So then so they can't look at the big picture. Everybody's being trained to never look at the big picture.
Starting point is 00:26:57 As if that's above their pay grade. Like you're not supposed to ever assemble these things. You're not supposed to remember anything for more than a month and almost no one does. I feel like I agree and I disagree. I feel like you chain things together that aren't necessarily connected. So here's like autism. Okay, I think autism, a big factor is not just the various environmental toxins that people are ingesting, but also a lot of the fucking vaccines are giving kids when they're young. For sure.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I don't think they're doing that to make people autistic. I think they're doing that to profit off of these vaccines. Right? I think once they take advantage. You told me. Hold, please, while I'm talking. Once they take advantage. of it and they understand that it's a thing, then they use it to their advantage.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I think once they understand that it's a thing, like, oh, we're making more autistic people. There's definitely more autistic people. Now we can kind of weaponize it. Now we can kind of like mold them in a certain direction. I don't think they engineered autism. I don't think, I like to think, at least, that people aren't that evil. Why do you like to think?
Starting point is 00:28:00 Will you tell me what China did, the thing you told me that they were trying to make their IQs higher so they were putting something? Yeah, what they did is they gene-edited kids, and they said they did it to prevent HIV, which like, who's even worried about HIV today? Fucking zero people. Right. The HIV might have been the greatest sci-op since COVID. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:18 In far as, like, what Fauci did, like, what, the way he mind-fucked people with COVID, he mind-fucked people to a much greater extent. Yes, that's right. With HIV. So you don't think people are evil, though, and after you want to know about that. Individuals. Like, Fauci, yes. Very capable.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Oh, just a few bad apples in the fucking DARPA shit, really? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, I don't know if Disney, like, worked together. with the government to purposely engineer autism so they can make better citizens. I didn't say, well, you have a link I'm not making that they engineered autism personally. It's part of programming. Everything's propaganda coming out of Hollywood since the start. It's deeply Pentagon embedded, everybody knows that. Tommy Lee Jones's cousin was a liaison to all like, who's the one with Claire Dane.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You ever see Claire Dane's when she was on that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm Colbert. And she goes, yeah, and she's like a dingbat's like, and then we go on the CIA camp. and Colbert, who I think is hip just because he did this, he went, oh, he had to, like, tamp it down immediately. So, no, it's linked very intimately. Right, but you don't think that Disney or that these people are purposely working with the government. Of course.
Starting point is 00:29:25 They're working with the government. Like, they want more people autistic. You don't think that. Not everybody gets to know every piece of the thing. I'm just telling you, what is the propaganda? So all the complaints now about woke, everything's woke, right? Don't you hate that? Right, right. So why is it like that?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Do you think that they're on purpose making people autistic? Are you saying that's part of it? Whatever when they discovered this condition from poisons that they're allowed to put it, and that RFK, by way, sold this out on, they're allowed to put these in the environment after knowing what the shit is. So, yeah, I don't want to think people are evil, but they are clearly, because you wouldn't phase that out. You would get rid of it immediately if you didn't like that it was doing,
Starting point is 00:30:05 making the frogs gay, how Alex said, in artful, but correctly, that shit mutilates genitals and sex genes. Yeah. Okay, so once you know it does that and you're not doing shit and in fact it becomes more, that means you want to do it. That's how I look at it. I think they
Starting point is 00:30:22 just want the money. They want the money. They want the profit. No, no, no, no, no, no. A major corporation has to increase their revenue every quarter. Dude, their corporations are free. We have state capitalism. They're all, all of them have government contracts. Can I give my theory on this? Yes, hot dog, thank you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:38 This is, this, you know, you know cymatics? Symatics, I know the term. Symatics. How is Symmatics? He's a great dude. He's like, of one of my favorites see. Is this like an off-shooted dionetics? No, it's when you just, you put like, baby powder on a speaker and you play certain frequencies and it forms geometries.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Oh, I have seen that. So I think what both of you are tuning into is a kind of cultural cymatics that there exists in the world of frequency of greed or evil or selfishness that shows up in these specific ways throughout history over and over and over again, the exploitation of children, the sacrifice of children, the exploitation of the energy of people to make yourself more powerful. This has been going on since all of recorded history. So I said that? Yeah, he's really smart.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You bully him, but he's a nice dude. He's got bad skin. You know how I am. Well, let's think about, just think about the idea. of prescribing drugs for kids that are unnecessary that will kill them, but also make companies a profit. That is child sacrifice. It's just a roundabout sort of a weird filtered way where you don't think about it like that, but it's almost like what the Aztecs were doing. It's very safe. It's just, it's just you're doing it for money. They're doing it for favor
Starting point is 00:32:01 with the gods. So it's like the- That's the same thing. The baby powder that you're pouring on the speaker, It changes color, but it's the same exact shape. It's always child sacrifices. So it is child sacrifice. It's just that they dance around this maze so you don't think of it as child sacrifice where they're injecting kids with COVID vaccines. They're all getting strokes. Or it's slavery.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's not. It's not child sacrifice. I mean, that's a huge part of it. But it is child sacrifice. Child sacrifice. It's slavery. Don't worry. We use every part of the Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Imagine if your company that's profiting off of a drug that you know is not necessary. asserted to kids, and you know for sure is killing kids, and you're still doing it for profit. Here, let me explain it. Child sacrifice. Imagine you're working in the government and you let them do that and you have these bullshit hearings and nothing ever happens or changes and you have a little stupid play.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Imagine that. Because I only been on a new show for now, what, three years, and already I'm like bored of this circle and people still act like it's normal and they're not just doing a play. They still act like it's normal. Callie Means just left the White House today. Really? Is that the long neck?
Starting point is 00:33:06 What the fuck does that mean? Callie Means was... From Trump's menageria of freaks. Have you not seen them? Okay. Callie Means, who was working to try to get peptides and all these different things passed through, said, I can't do this. It's like the deep state's real.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And there's all these industry insiders that are embedded in the government. They say they're going to do something. And then they do everything they can to slow it down and keep it from happening. Peptides are supposed to be done two years ago. All this stuff was supposed to happen a long time ago. And they're fucking hitting the brakes on everything because they want money. Yeah. And again, same kind of thing, right?
Starting point is 00:33:38 Making money. How many people are going to lose their health, perhaps get very sick, maybe even die, because they don't have access to whatever the fuck they need. And also, you're putting stuff out there still that we have wanted banned for a long time. Right? Like fucking glyphosate. Like they need glyphosate. That was the craziest argument when RFK Jr. was on here, and he was explaining that to me,
Starting point is 00:34:03 that they made an executive order to keep glyphosate because otherwise it would fuck up the food business. Yeah. So imagine that the food business is reliant on poison. If it doesn't use poison, it can't stay open. Right. We can't operate. How would it fuck the business up? Because it would cost so much money to change out their systems from glyphosate herbicide to there's all these different ways they could do it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 They use lasers where they fucking scan over the things and they zap the plants that aren't the right ones. And then if they wanted to do everything like regenerative farming, that takes fucking a decade. Right. You have to change the soil. You have to do so much. You have to compost. You have to like re-energize the bio material that's in the soil and turn it to enriched. Like you have to get fertilizer.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You have to like dead animals and shit. And it has to like become a living thing again. Because right now it is it's a fucking toxic dust layer that just sits there and keeps anything from. And then they pour a bunch of fucking minerals and nitrous. and all the different things all over it, just so the stuff can grow. Right. And it's like to change that and make it so that you don't need industrial fertilizers, you don't need herbicides, you don't, it'll take fucking forever and it costs so much money
Starting point is 00:35:15 because we've been tricked by these fucking crooks. Right. These people that have decided to make the most amount of money and poisoned people, probably initially they probably didn't realize what they were doing. But once they realized they were poisoning people, they just kept doing it. Yeah, but you know, in some way. They've done it on purpose many times. Remember that.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Don't you remember what they did them kids in Kansas City? What they did the people in San Francisco? They drizzled that cobalt shit on black kids in Kansas City. What cobalt shit? Yeah. I can't remember what, Cobalt 13 or something. Was this the one from the fans? No, that was a different thing.
Starting point is 00:35:47 This is the Army. They went to a building next to another building, okay? And then they said, why aren't using like a plane even? They were just spraying it into these kids. That's right, right. I don't remember what it was, though. You said it's cobalt? To see what I would do.
Starting point is 00:35:59 They wanted to say. how much they could affect people in case they wanted to use like a bioweapon. Well, I'm sure it's reformed since there's no justice ever for these people. I'm sure it's gotten better. Well, they did with MK Ultra. That stopped. It stopped. They don't do it anymore. The bachelor, I stand corrected.
Starting point is 00:36:16 San Francisco, they were trying to see if they could spread a disease. So they spread like a cold, right? Didn't they? Like, they spread something like a flu. They put it in the subways. Is that what they did? I heard they fumigated the subways with disease. I think they did something where they sprayed in the air, too,
Starting point is 00:36:30 because the way the wind was drifting, they wanted to see how many people would infect? Right, and so at that point, I think... Hold music. Not what you want to hear when a pipe dispersed and your basement is flooding. That's why Intact Insurance answers 2 million claim calls per year within 20 seconds.
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Starting point is 00:37:00 PC Express pass for just $2.50 a month. Learn more at no frills.ca. Metsker's making a fair point. That's evil. Oh, yeah. That's not. That's not. Yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Fair point with the Disney boys. With the Disney boys. Hot dog and CIA. The elf. I mean, that's evil. I don't think it. And maybe you could argue just greed is evil. Greed it's vamporism.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Maybe you could, that's argument. Not just that. That's a level. But do vampires think they're evil? What's above that, though? I'm a royal. I'm not saying it literally the royals, but also them. But that feeling of I want eugenics for me and I want dysgenics for you.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I'm going to be a living God by pushing you down to the category of mineral. Thereby making me a special transhuman fucking nightmare from the Dune series. What is this, Jamie? It was a great series. I don't think they're on the night. Hold on. Solfide. Hold on, let me get to the top to show you.
Starting point is 00:38:03 What? This is the historical background of the U.S. biological warfare program, and it gets into... 1944, they started. Holy shit. Here's a total of 160 tests using various simulents. Fine. Maybe stimulants, but... Simulants. Simulating.
Starting point is 00:38:21 They're simulating a disease. Which is it. We conducted at 66 locations, both military and civilian targets in the United States. Holy shit. Including Alaska and a Y. So they did 160 different tests where they try to infect people. They don't do it anymore, though. Or at least pretend to infect people.
Starting point is 00:38:35 They stop. Specific dates, locations, and substances used are in an Army report, 1977, conduct of BW testing, specialized sampling, and analysis techniques were used to determine the various parameters of the test requirements and the downwind travel distances. Jesus Christ. Bro. Look, see the subways right there. Mm-hmm. Backs.
Starting point is 00:38:58 New York and several. Francisco. They got a lot better, dude. Yeah, I don't know why people think I'm saying anything far out ever because this is Nazi level shit here. Well, we brought all those Nazis, so we're going to do some Nazi stuff. Right. That's true.
Starting point is 00:39:11 They probably learned a lot. I just found this out. The OSS, when they, you know, merge with the remaining Nazis of the SS to form the CIA, it wasn't, yeah, that's how they got that. But it was the world's calm. Let him roll, baby. You got to let them rip. It's good shit, baby.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Just let them break. You had all these people. No one will know this. Hold on. Say it again. Say it again. You had all them CIA guys on here. None of them know this. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:35 He's honest to me too. And I'm like, no, I don't know. He knows this. Nobody knows this. You don't know. He's got his back. I'm ready to. This hat was not good with the headphones.
Starting point is 00:39:46 So explain it again, the OSS. What happened with the Nazis? After the war, they merge with the SS, you know, Auto Scorsesini, I believe, that carried on Gladiotio. That's the strategy of tension where you've fund, like, both sides of the things. You've heard this. The strategy of tension.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Southern Poverty Law Center you texted me about when they were doing, they were paying for the Charlottesville. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And that's a wild. That goes back to Otto Scorsesne. That goes back to Otto Cresne after the war. That's a Nazi. So you, that you sure that that wasn't like standard techniques that people just, like Nero burned Rome, right? They've always done things. Yes. Yes. But the term. I mean the term. Yes, but you are correct. But the strategy of tension, that term comes originally from Autosquessens. group. Interesting. Okay. And so... Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Well, we'll find out. We'll put that in AI perplexity. Our sponsor. Let's ask. See it's perplexity. It knows how the CIA was formed. Well, I did ask, and it's very strange what it says here. The last paragraph is one matter.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It is inaccurate. I was trying to say it. The OSS merged with the SS is inaccurate. The documented history is that American intelligence agencies used former Nazi personnel and networks for Cold War intelligence. Not that the two wartime organizations merged. Yet, if you're not to have this. If you have an organization and you have people in that organization and they join your organization, you fucking merge.
Starting point is 00:41:05 What's the difference? That's a merger. That's a merger. The organization above both of them that the CIA is under and probably still under, I believe, is called the World Commerce Commission. Some shit like that. What? Never heard of it. That's who merged them together. It was in charge of that and then making it.
Starting point is 00:41:20 If you watch my boy, Sean Patrick Haslett Show through a glass darkly, great. If you like. Say it slowly so people can hear your words? Sean Patrick Haslett. What was the other the term of the show the name of the show? Through a Glass Darkly. Okay. Through a Glass Darkly.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Thurred a glass dark. What? You've been on it. I've been on that show. Holy shit. Am I being Gaslit? Is that what this is? Hey man, I'm just a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I don't know. Sean from Turning Point Sam Tripoli, the thing thing. Turning Point Sam Tripoli? Yeah, my think tank. Oh, through a glass darkly. It's good. I love that show. I remember.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Sorry, Sean. I remember now. Why do you say, yeah, my think tank? Like, I know what the fuck? He's got a think tank. Yeah. When did you start that? Well, it's just a group tag.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It's not really. I probably am overselling it. No, no, you're not overselling it because it's got like doctors and professors. So let's call our our tech strad the think tank too. Yeah, we should. It was already kind of being used on turning point. You can have two think tanks? You have two think tanks?
Starting point is 00:42:20 What a lot of guys are involved in multiple startups. Dude, dizzy boys? Oh my God. Dude, are you watching this? Have you watched the dropout? Elizabeth Holmes Hulu series? No. How is it?
Starting point is 00:42:31 It's so good. It's so good. I'm wondering, is it so good because I got really engrossed in the story when I was listening to the dropout podcast, but I was watching the show. And, you know, just because I haven't seen the movie yet, I want to watch the show and then see the movie. But the fucking, that chick, what's her name, Amanda Seafried? Holy shit is she good, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Oh, she plays her? She's so good, dude. She slowly starts. changing her voice. She acts completely autistic through the entire show. She's fucking really good. Wow. That show is crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I can't believe I didn't even hear anybody recommend it before. Look at that. Yeah, big deference. Hoorah for Hollywood, baby. I mean, I'm kind of for the improvements to the, you know. They should have made her a black man. It would have been just as accurate. Dude, I'm way into that idea.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Are you kidding? I would have been entranced by Elizabeth Holmes. I would have been sucking her feet. one that looked like that? The real one would have taken me in a second. Like that, those eyes, those deep blue eyes. You saw it in the Nathan Fielder clip when she's looking at him. She draws you in with those eyes.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And you know what you're not experiencing? People like that have an aura. They have a real vibe that pulls you in. So when you're just looking at that like a 2D picture, it's nothing compared to when you're in their presence. And so you think that if you were, if you said, hey, no cameras, no films, can I just come over your house
Starting point is 00:44:01 and ask you questions about what happened? You think that she would just get you. Very slowly. She would suck you in. Suck you into her web. Think of how much money she grifted. Think of like what she did. Like if we take the ethics and morality out of it,
Starting point is 00:44:15 it's spectacular. Like when you look at like the ability to manipulate people at the level that she did, that's more than you just can't know until you're around someone like. I mean, you've been around. You have people like that on your podcast. You can feel their vibe.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Not at that level. Not at that level. The charm of J.D. Vance coming at you like that? You couldn't feel it. Oh, yes. Trump, I'm sure, radiate some kind of weird aura. Like, you know, anytime I've been around people like that, you know, they get you. They, there's, who knows what it is, mirror neurons, who knows what it is.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But these are warlocks. These are sorcerers. There's a little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup, right? Yes. You're doing something. You're pitching this thought, and they all think they're going to cash in. But there was also the culture of startups in Silicon Valley where there was a lot of bullshit startups. That was one of our arguments was that everybody was doing this.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Everybody was kind of bullshitting. Everybody was like making these things. My problem with the show is it's really good and there's facts in it for sure. They definitely fake these things. They did this. They got people to invest under false pretenses. I don't like when there's dialogue between people, and I know somebody just made it up. It takes me right out of it.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Me too, dude. When they're, like, they're alone. I hate biopics. Sunny Balwani and her alone, and they're acting weird together. I'm like, you don't know if that's real. Right. Like, you're making me think about them a very specific way that you can't, they didn't participate.
Starting point is 00:45:46 They didn't help you. They didn't tell you, I said this, and then she said that. So you're just making things up, and you're pretending. Right. It's like gonzo journalism. You're mixing fake. Like, that's what Hunter used to do. Right. To propagandaize me a certain way.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yes, yes. So part of me is like, I don't think you should be able to do that. But that's a good warlock trick. By the people who made the show. I mean, no, Gonzo journalism. Like, yeah, it's like reporting, but it's not. I'm lying. Did you ever see the thing that he did about the election? Well, do you ever see the thing that he did about the election when he did fear and loathing on the campaign trail?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Oh, yeah, yeah. So he made Ed Muskie go crazy. He made him go crazy. because he was saying that he was using a Brazilian witch doctor, and he was addicted to Ibegain. Do you know this whole story? No, I know. I find it to be very strange.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Cause the guy to have a nervous breakdown. And so the guy was on the campaign trail, and he's like, I am not a drug addict. And he would literally go crazy. Wow. So Hunter, find the video of Hunter on the Dick Cavett show. He's admitting on the Dick Cavett show that he made this whole thing up, and he caused this guy's campaign to sink.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Wow. and affected the entire election. You know, this is so funny because I was just watching this thing on Alistair Crowley and in his confessions, he was saying that he made the Nazi Germany fall apart. Like, he infected Germany with these insane ideas. You never going to forgive him for that, are you? I mean, let it go, man. Let it go. You and your boy, Theo.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Look at this. Moskey was eating I don't say he was. I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And I started the rumor in Milwaukee. He finally said, will you mean? So that was he's saying, I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee, and it's true because I started the rumor in Milwaukee. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So he started this rumor. He wrote about it. Yeah. And then he caused the guy to go crazy. Yeah. Magic. Pure and simple. Well, voodoo's real.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah. If you believe in voodoo, if I tell you, I'm putting a spell on you. and you believe it, your life's going to fall apart. It's true. Well, like you said, you don't want to believe people are evil. That's the spell. Vodoon. Gnostic Vodun is the basis of a lot of the mass programming for Americans.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I didn't know it was pronounced Vodun, by the way, that sounds pronounced. But they use a lot of that. And the main thing, though, because you had Grush on here talking about the four NHIs, right? Right. The four NHI. That sounds like a... Like a band. Like a sneakage.
Starting point is 00:48:25 like those guys that were just singers like El Devo, like the four N.H.I. Yeah. And they do opera songs. There are, what was it, the bug one and the lizard one and the Nordics? Right. Germans and the, uh, whatever. Well, the Nordics look like, like Greek gods.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah. Or like, yeah. So that's when he, okay, that part stuck out when he was talking about the one looking kind of blue and Ridley Scott Prometheus-ish. Yeah. So they, it's eugenics and dysgenics. And a big thing that I just learned of. And it's from South Africa's whole tokolash.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Yeah, on Mystery Boys. Oh, this one, it already got on them. This is fucked up. So you know what Tokalash is? No. Credo Mutwa, who's the shaman that David Ike likes from South Africa that taught him about the lizards. You know that guy? No.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You've never had either Crito. No, I'm joking. Dr. Lizards? You don't know Dr. Lizards? Anyway, it's in his book, but they would have practice, which, like, the fucked up ones where they take like a pygmy. or, which I guess a small person, I'm not clear, but it's a human pygmy, right?
Starting point is 00:49:31 It just means they're small in the jungle or something. Okay. They take them or a disabled, like someone who's got a disability or a mutate, you know, any kind of malformed person. Right. Are these, they would grab these people and raise them like, they put like bent wood to, like, make their limbs grow weird
Starting point is 00:49:48 to turn them into, like, monstery, goblin. And then just, it's just torturing a human and mutilating them until they're crazy and think they're another entity, like a supernatural entity called Tokalash. The CIA studied that, okay? And it brought that shit here. And so the for NHI, I say, are, this is why the aliens need sperm and over,
Starting point is 00:50:10 because they're making this stuff out of people. It's all, they've been doing this shit under the Energy Commission probably since 48. They've been, so remember the- They're making this shit out of people? So you're saying that they're these non-human intelligences? They're human. They made that they're, they made,
Starting point is 00:50:25 They made them. People made them. Now they could do a crisp. They don't have to tie your spine to a bent wood anymore. It beat you. They can do it with blue light, Spider-Man Elsa, and they can fucking do it. It's like you're being sculpted by your phone into the thing they want you to be. The grays are just some warped mutant hybrid person.
Starting point is 00:50:43 That's why they look like fetuses, I bet. And that's why they got to steal your... Wait a minute. They've been doing... Wait a minute. They've been seeing gray since the 50s. You think they've been doing it back then? Here's what I'm getting to.
Starting point is 00:50:53 So do you remember Diana Posulka? Or not the one that wrote the DARPA book. I'm blanking it, Annie Jacobson. Annie Jacobson? And remember at the time, I thought this story was so stupid. The DARPA said it was deformed kids that Russia sent over to, like, freak us out. That was the Roswell thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 So now I understand that story a lot better. Because Tokalosha in South Africa, they're rare, but you can still find those farms in the mountains where they're just raising. You know, like Trondylodyte people or something that would never see the light. They torture, tell them they're like a, and they can climb and people die of fright seeing these things. So, wait a minute. You think that all these alien abduction experiences, it's all human created, fake? Well, I didn't say fake. I said they speculated us into four other things.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And the reason is that the Nordics, the Nordics are the eugenics. And that's the, you could tell us from back then because they're blonde and blue blood and blue-eyed. You know, the ideal of the 50. Then you got your lizard people, which is stranded a fucking Star Trek. And by the way, that guy was a creep, Gene Roddenberry, just, you know. He's a fucking creep. Jesus Christ. Okay?
Starting point is 00:52:05 But the lizards and men don't come from space. They come from here. And so you can, and that's why the sightings in other countries, because like, okay, what's going on? Why would people see different things? They all need your sperm and eggs, though. That always is a thing. Let me back him up here. Because the local movie maker people are the ones designering.
Starting point is 00:52:23 these, they've had this crisper shit for a long time. You understand that, right? Dude, dude, Joe, look it up. Jamie, maybe you could pull this up. Yeah, that's where the Disney comes in. They just mixed a mouse brain with a human brain. Did you hear about this? Yes, I told you in confidence and now, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I'm sorry, I forgot. It's getting heated here. I'm sorry. But, you know, what he's saying, even though it does sound absolutely insane, but honestly, it doesn't sound as insane. Thank you. Hold that while you're talking about. It doesn't, it doesn't sound as insane as beings from other dimensions.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I mean, it's equally insane. But when you look at what we're doing now, creating human mouse brain hybrids with brain organelles harvested from stem cells, we are doing that. And you look at what we just looked at with the subway bioweapon test. That was in the 40s. So would it surprise you that secret branches of every government were doing eugenics studies, were abducting children and, warping them to see if we could make super soldiers. Or how about farming them? I mean, there's clearly a market pressure for that if you're trying to have a military
Starting point is 00:53:32 advantage. And when it comes to having a military advantage, morality goes out the window, man. Right, but do you think they would create little gray aliens with giant heads and big black eyes? This goes back to Annie Jacobson thing, because the space race, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why, I'll tell you why, I'll tell you why. The space race with Soviets. Right? Right.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Okay. This was before the space race, bro. What are you doing? Oh, God. Don't touch me with the tip. It's closed. Before you do, this is a, I did find something about the Tokaloche Farm as to someone quoting it. Oh, it's so upsetting.
Starting point is 00:54:02 But nothing I found said it was real, but this is what it says. Okay, this is a talk of a Tokalosh farm somewhere in the country where deformed children are raised as assassins. Holy shit. Oh, trained with mutine knowledge. I don't know what that means. And all the terrifying things whispered about in secret. I haven't seen it, but it's something we're told to be aware of. It's the X-Men.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You know, it means like mind your business in Bantu or some shit, or it's like, this is evil, don't ask about it. They won't make carvings of it. So think how classified of knowledge of it is they won't make a carving of it since going way back. Assassins. They don't want to disclose it because you can't. It's terrible. It says there's three grades of Tokalosh. The most common one, people known, is like a little hairy man.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Often it's not mystical at all. It can be trained animals, even baboons used by certain people to carry out menial tasks. It's more psychological warfare. When you see something that fits the idea of a Tokalos, fear grips you, and that fear becomes its own weapon. So that's mind war right there. That's what you call it. Nice mind war. In South Africa.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Well, they studied everything. Remember, scopolamine, making zombies are undead. Zombies are people that have been tricked in brainwashed. You know, I took your heart now. This rock is your heart. And don't lose this ring. For context, that was explanation from the resurrection. Resident healer, singoma, physial, pretorius.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Heavenly healings, resident healer. I love the name of the company. Heavenly healings. Place like where you go to get a tantric massage. That's him talking about that. That's him? I don't trust people with nose rings. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:55:36 What about the pinagram necklace? Any man with a nose ring? I trust chicks with nos rings. I don't trust him as a dermatologist either. I'll tell you that. Here he goes. Attacking people with skin conditions. He should go to a laser guy, get his face.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah, that's just helpful. I think so. I don't think that's hateful at all. I just, I'm not into guys with nose rings. Jamie, I just said you, a helpful wrap I made to explain to colloosures. I got my nose pierced when I was a kid in Venice Beach. I got fucking infected. I bet you did.
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Starting point is 00:57:15 No. Makes you feel like you're a little. like a little bit of a rebel. It was the real dumb. It was real dumb. You're crazy. Living on the edge. Could have lost my nose.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Oh, really? Was that bad? It got super. Well, no. I mean, I got my, some dude on the Venice boardwalk shoved a needle into my nose and it got infected. You could have lost if he did. That's not as exciting, but I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:57:36 It is weird. Well, when do you get an infection? And especially if you get, like, that's the risk of getting a nose job too, right? How many people have gotten nose jobs and gotten an infection? Yeah. And you have rotting tissue in your nose? Rots off. You're smelling just dead meat everywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus Christ. I don't even consider the smell. Smells like just stinking feet. The good thing, though, is that olfactory senses, it just detects changes and smells. That's why people that live in a town that smells like shit, like when you're driving through it, they don't notice it. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Wait, that's interesting. So that's like a smoker can't, because I could never smell a cigarette smoke when I smoked. Exactly. Right, right. Yeah. People that are. when you like if you live in an area that stinks you don't detect it you detect changes and smells
Starting point is 00:58:23 which is really weird yeah that's what if I live in a shirt I wonder what that's for do you think that's so people get used to eating rotten food when you have to probably probably I mean you don't want to be tortured by also be a misfire off another thing maybe it's just because people lived around the smell of shit for so long like think about like Roman life when they would just take buckets of shit you know the form or what a farm or a farm At the farm, at least it's out there.
Starting point is 00:58:48 It's out on the field. That's manure. That's different. Like, chewing shit that they're throwing out the window and there's people stacked on top of each other. It's throwing these pots of shit. The 1800s. Yeah. But think of like telephone poles.
Starting point is 00:59:02 They're everywhere. But you never notice them. The whole, like everywhere you go, there's fake trees with metal. Right. Here we go with the conspiracies. And you just get accustomed to it. You get accustomed to it. Yeah, it looks normal to you.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Oh, the wire trees aren't. real. They're not real, man. That's the telephone pole. I keep telling you that. Do you ever, you ever see the depictions of New York City before cars when it was just horse-drawn carriages? There was horse shit in the end everywhere. Everywhere. All those people were sick. Like you wonder where these diseases came from? All those people were sick. Well, I bet they got a hearty in shit fumes. Typhoid. Yeah. And they didn't know. What's crazy is this was before germ theory. They had, they called it a myasma and they thought, it came from bad smells. They thought diseases literally came from bad smells wafting in from
Starting point is 00:59:53 swamps that contained within them in those winds rotten animal breath, which was causing diseases to spread. This is my asthma theory. Look it up. That's how crazy people were. Is that how I got asthma? This is what they thought. They thought it was like raccoon breath, like rotten raccoon breath, wafting through the wind was getting people sick. Oh my God. It's crazy. Oh, I've caught the horse vapors. But you've got to wonder what shit like that is happening now. Like what kind of things like that that we have a discovery.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Yeah. But there's got to be stuff like that now. I wonder how much glyphosate is really affecting people. Like, if you could quantify it, like how many people are sick because of it, how many people got diseases because of it. Yeah. That's the other stuff. That's microplastics. That's thalates.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Thalates are shrinking teeth. Are we sure of that? Thalates. drinking tates. Yeah, there's studies on that. I thought the frog mutation is from the other one. From Harvard, that book. It is weird when you talk to younger kids.
Starting point is 01:00:55 You know, like, they're all like, yeah, my taint's small. Like, they're just, they just accept it. By the way, it is got a gape tober. Remember that? It's Gaptover, by the way. I tell you, it's Gaptober for everybody, for your taints. Get out there. The kids, there's just like all measuring taints on Snapchat.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Measure it. Measure your friends. Then you got a taint in you. Like when they see porn from the 80s, they must be like, damn, that guy's taint is gigantic. Like a grand cam. You get a walrus baculum and a friend. Can you stretch your taint like the way the guys reclaimed foreskin? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:28 We've explored this on the mystery boys many times. That's the main mystery we talked about. And they pulled their foreskin up to try to. I wouldn't do that. I would just beat it with a firm. And a replica is fine. If you can't afford the real thing, we're not all Joe Rogan. I disagree with this.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I don't think you do that. I don't think you do it. I don't think you can. Don't shame me. Don't wealth shame me for my baculum. Wealth shaming. Such an asshole. You know, I have been doing that a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Piece of shit. Taint stretching. Jesus Christ. Perennial massage. Taint stretching is real. That's probably for women, I think. Perennial massage or perennial stretching refers to the gentle lengthening and conditioning. Nice try.
Starting point is 01:02:04 What even is that? Perennial. That's somebody banging you in the ass and calling it therapy. Yeah. Well, I mean, I see that while I'm doing it. Musil located between the, oh, it's very, it's very. The vaginal opening. It is now.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Or scrotum. Or scrotum. Interesting. Depending on if you're a trans woman. Yeah. I am. Then it's a vagina, sort of trans scrotumish, whatever. I mean, you kind of look at everything that's going on, right?
Starting point is 01:02:33 And that's when I heard the miasma shit. I was just thinking, like, I think maybe it's glyphate, maybe it's microplastics, or maybe it's something we just haven't figured out yet. Like DDT. Like, they didn't know. what was going on with DDT and then they're like oh shit we got to stop using this or you know telling everybody here's my crazy idea is a lot of mental illness is related to distortions in the time space continuum that are happening right now ripples and time space are
Starting point is 01:02:59 causing people to go nuts as we approach the singularity take it from here Kurt I'm singing your time space bashing first of all let me say that no I'm saying that like this shows very problematic okay a lot of what's explain what you're saying I'm saying that You know, they talk about this. They can measure these, thank you. They measure these waves that happen when black holes collide, right? They ripple time space. It ripples through the universe.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And we're time space. I just feel like a lot of the strange things that are happening, mental illnesses, maybe even like cancers and stuff, are potentially related to people who've been rippled, the time space rippled them weird. And there's no way to measure that or find it. I know it's not taking it back now. I know, you know, we just don't know. In the same way they didn't know about germs, we, what happens if time space ripples
Starting point is 01:03:55 through you? Why do we assume that everything stays the same? Like, I don't mean to get into the CERN particle accelerator shit, but when you look at, when you look at that stuff, when you're like smashing the smallest parts of the universe together and creating bizarre transformations, everything's connected to everything. what effect does that have on everything else that we just don't know. But if you look at CERN, if you look at the nuclear testing, if you look at all these things we've been doing and look at history post those moments,
Starting point is 01:04:27 shit got weird and it got weird fast. And I don't know, this is just something I kick around at night. It's not a bad thought. Yeah. Like we don't know like they created the Higgs-Boson when they did that, when they figured out Element 115. Yeah, who knows what they're doing? Really?
Starting point is 01:04:44 Well, do you know what the original thought was that they were going to create a black hole? And that there was going to be a microscopic black hole that went through the entire earth. Yeah. Well, that's the fear. But they said they can make them. They're just very small and don't last, right? That's what they thought. But they didn't know until they did it.
Starting point is 01:04:59 They said, let's see. Let's see. So you know what they do with that? What? This is a thing out. I didn't see this when you had him on here telling you that. Oh, thank you. Oh, and Alex Jones is telling you about stopping kids' hearts to send him their minds through space and all that.
Starting point is 01:05:13 The little tiny micron openings that they make, you can't fit an object through, but you can fit someone's consciousness through. So you do that Phoenix shit where you stop someone's heart today. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, listen to what you just had. They're making little black hole so they could send someone's consciousness through it, and this is planned out. The disclosure that they should give you is that they figured out consciousness, but they were not going to disclose that. What do you mean? They figured out what consciousness is, and they figured out how to manipulate it with electrical... I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I'm not in CIA. What do you think it is? Why do you think that they figured it out? Well, based on my research and the people I talk to and the best stuff that I found out so far, which it makes a lot of sense. You got to be this. But what does that mean, though? They figured out what consciousness is. Like how to take you out of your fucking body and pop you back in.
Starting point is 01:06:02 What? Yeah. People do it now online. You could learn how to do it. I think they could do it with that God helmet, right? Like, can't they induce out-of-body experiences with the God helmet? You know the God helmet? Don't put that helmet on.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Right. But is that an illusion or is that actually taking your consciousness out of your body? I'm not saying that helmet's taking out of your body. But if it's an illusion that is totally a reality, I'm not seeing a difference. But I don't say it does that. But you just crank the... It's like anything else. You just crank the... Right, but you're saying they're taking consciousness out of their body and they're sending it through a black hole.
Starting point is 01:06:31 They created it with a particle collider. There's a lot. That's a lot of... That's a lot of time. That's as much of a stretch as they're taking crippled kids and turning them into aliens that pilot crap. No, no, no, the cripple kids. I lean more towards believing that theory than I call consciousness ejection.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Both of them, I'm like, I don't expect this to that. Because I don't know what a space-time ripple thing is. I don't know what that means. Don't attack my space-time ripple theory. What's that mean? What does that mean? Space-time ripples? Yeah, what does that mean?
Starting point is 01:06:58 Don't you have that every day? We as-Wel-Chames, he attacks space-time ripples? He attacks my space-time ripple theory. You're scared to be cleaning too. And he talks about Tokalosh. Excuse me? Excuse me? He thinks I bully.
Starting point is 01:07:10 of a bitch. He thinks I'm a bully, but I'm not. I'm bullying those stars. I'm saying. You know those little stars you put on your pants? We don't understand space time. We don't understand space time. Some of us.
Starting point is 01:07:23 But you know, like, people experience distortion in time. Like, all the time it happens. Well, yeah, that's true. Alien abductions, you know, one second, it's like you're driving down the road. The next second, it's mourning. You don't know what happened. Yeah. Skapalamine as well.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Yeah. I'm just saying, like, Whatever, in the way we didn't understand germs, we don't understand retro causality. And people are starting to talk about that now that maybe somehow events in the future ripple back into the past. That's not just stoner talk. They're exploring those ideas. So in the same way we didn't understand germs or atoms, we don't understand time space. How much of a person's personality is the way that they're, they're atomically interacting with the time space continuum.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And is the time space continuum constant? No. We all know that if you take a watch, put it in orbit, time moves differently. We also know that time space ripples, I don't know what they're called, but they can detect these waves that roll through the entire planet. All I'm saying is it's a completely ununderstood, vast, insane reality that we don't understand and how much does that affect culture? A lot of is classified.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Yeah. A lot of reality has been classified. Yeah. What do you mean? What reality's being classified? Well, anything that's classified, that would count as reality being classified. But I would say the NHA bullshit. You have that autistic guy, right? We got a good autistic man sitting here. What's his name, Grush?
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah. No autistic guy who heard a thing from a guy about a thing, right? Which, I don't know, he has no more credibility than I do, I feel. I feel I'm saying way more interesting things than what Neil Grush is telling you on this show. It's David Grush. David Grush. Well, who's Neil? Neil de Gros-Tyson.
Starting point is 01:09:12 He makes them together, which will be an incredible hybrid. Yo, I just gave them a great to-Kalosh idea. It's some kind of terrible. Neil de Grosch-Tysen. Oh, shit, Neil de Grosch-Tis. One person who doesn't believe in aliens at all, and one person who told me about four different ones. He told me about wars. They were having wars with the reptilians and the grays.
Starting point is 01:09:32 The Rubito. Huh? The Rubito. That's the ultimate goal of alchemy of the violence. Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Did you ever see that picture of the Siamese twins? One of them's gay, the other's not. Is that real?
Starting point is 01:09:45 Well, how do you see that in the picture? I don't know, but I didn't want to look to see if it wasn't real. Okay. Ah, shit. Is it just the picture's real, but they just said that about them? I didn't look into it. Or there's a picture of one of them's kissing another dude, and the other one's kind of sitting there like, fine. I don't think that's real.
Starting point is 01:10:03 I don't think that's real. Someone's got to find that picture. I think one's gay. The other one's in denial. The other one's a Catholic. Neil de Grush Tyson I like it I like it
Starting point is 01:10:13 I like it Neil de Grush Tyson is amazing That's gonna be a probably I like it That would be a great character Like an AI character That's very conflicted About his belief in aliens
Starting point is 01:10:23 I mean do you believe crush Do you believe he's telling the truth Well here's the thing He hasn't had any personal experiences Of note He's telling you what he heard There was no No thing where he was
Starting point is 01:10:35 In the presence of a ship No thing where he communicated with a being So all these people that are telling me These things that are these programs they were read into and these videos they've seen I take that as seriously as I take everybody else that's telling me some sort of a story I don't know I don't if you don't you haven't seen it
Starting point is 01:10:55 I think What Bob Lazar says is way more interesting and compelling Well Bob Lazar said all that stuff turned out to be accurate Yeah, element one-fifference was accurate. The fact that he was actually in Los Alamos's employee register, he was 100% an employee there.
Starting point is 01:11:15 The fact that he knew exactly where Area S4 was when it was completely classified. There's photos of the actual fucking Sanger doors that he described like decades earlier. Did he say, I'm trying to remember,
Starting point is 01:11:30 fuck. Glad you interrupted. Wait, did he say the thing about that they were calling the aliens the kid, the children of the kids, the children or the kids or something. Do you remember him saying something like that? I don't remember that. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Because someone was telling me that and I was like, oh, that's interesting. Well, they were very tiny. That was the thing about the ship that he, this one, that thing that is right there. Or that went up on that fucking pick. That's from his office. This was a replication of the image that was on the wall in the office where they all worked, the workshop. And so when he first got to Area S4, before they were showing him this, he saw this on the wall. It's like, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 01:12:07 Is this supposed to be a recovered craft or human? It's supposed to be a recovered craft. It's supposed to be what they call the sport model. And he said when you got inside of it, it was very obvious that it was designed for tiny little things. Like three foot tall creatures. Like everyone had a crouch inside of it. And there was no controls. There was no, it was somehow or they controlled it with their mind.
Starting point is 01:12:27 It was like some sort of a connection between the craft and the being. And they figured out how to pilot these things. And he said that there was two different. generators inside of it. One of them was for going insanely fast and one of them was for traveling at more moderate speeds. And they removed the one that made you go insanely fast because apparently they couldn't control it. Okay, this is his speculation. Right there what you're saying. What? Hold music. Not what you want to hear when a pipe dispersed in your basement is flooding. That's why intact insurance answers two million claim calls per year within 20 seconds. So instead of
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Starting point is 01:13:30 I'm saying like farmed. I'm not saying they kidnapped kids and did it. I'm saying they farmed. But you're saying what came first? the chicken or the egg. There's a fucking craft that you can pilot with your brain that they had in the 1980s. There's no way technology was that advanced back then. I think it's
Starting point is 01:13:43 much more likely that... Fly by water? It was around... Much more likely that there was probably some sort of an interaction with someone or something from something else that was different than humans. I forgot this part. I don't think they were engineering three foot tall humans in
Starting point is 01:13:57 1947 to pilot these things with their brains. I bet they were. Wait, hold on. I'm going to forget. Remember the guy you had on that was telling you about the pharaohs going up the and they go to a different temple and they get bandaged up and they're trying to tune their frequency to the gods at each temple. You had an Egypt guy here telling you that. Remember him? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Okay. It's called adivism. That's the thing that's in the Dune series. The big part of making these creatures is, and also the mind control shit they did, was attivism. The stuff from altered states where you go in the isolation chamber and regress to a certain primitive state that's in your genetic memory. Do you know what I'm talking about? I saw altered states, yeah. But you know, that's called adivism, right?
Starting point is 01:14:37 You've heard of that? I never heard that term. Reapearance of an ancestral genetic trait. Oh, like when people grow a tail? This is early. Like when chickens grow fangs. Now think of the reptiles. So the reptilians.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Wow. That's crazy. Kurt, that's cool, man. I didn't get it. I was giving, dude, somebody smaller gave it to me. But, dude, a lot of people sent me great shit. We were both in gay by the way. So, how does that, how do you think that connects to, like, the grays?
Starting point is 01:15:02 He's saying you could maybe, if there was some ancestry. early proto-hominated being, you could like bring it out of a person. Oh, okay. That's pretty cool, man. So that, you've seen those images, those elongated skulls from Peru. Yes. It's as old as every civilization is altering people to make them footbinding, castration. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:23 The Peru skulls are different. No, I know. What do you mean? Yeah. Well, they're actually bigger. That's right. They're not elongated. Dan was telling us about it.
Starting point is 01:15:32 They have a 30% larger brain capacity. The shape is different. They don't have this sagittal crest or whatever they call it the sagittal suture. I get it. The line that we have in our skull is where kids and our brains grow. Their lines are totally different. It's like a totally different kind of person. So people went cargo cult.
Starting point is 01:15:49 People were around these beings that were super advanced and they wanted to be advanced. They're like, what all you got to do is stretch your head out. Well, not only that, they're probably related to them too. They're probably intermingling with them. So people that have the trait are probably considered better, right? For sure. I think there was probably some of that. And that's probably what they were talking about in the Bible when they were talking about in like the Book of Enoch and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:16:11 When they were talking about people coming down and mating with the daughters of men. That's in Genesis. Book Enoch is like fan fiction. No, no, no. It's not one says on the Bible. Book of Enoch is like 3,000 BC. It doesn't mean it's in the Bible. It was widely accepted.
Starting point is 01:16:25 You know why it's not in the Bible? Because of rabbis. Because rabbis said it didn't jive with the Torah. So they removed it from the Bible. It's in the Ethiopian Bible. But in the book of Jude, they're quoting it. But they quote Enoch, they quote Enoch in the Old Testament. Isn't it 3,000 BC is like how old that shit is?
Starting point is 01:16:40 It's fucking old. It's old as shit. But what my point is, it's talking about someone coming down and mating with the daughters of men. Right. Like the interbreeding of those two species would make sense. Like one of them. Look, imagine how smart people are.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Now imagine we had 30% more brain. Right. Yeah. Now imagine we've been able to make someone like that and they've done the experimentation. Of course, they're not going to tell you it's illegal, but that doesn't say it. stop them. For sure today they're probably thinking about doing it. No, 40. Thinking now.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Edward Teller, that creep. Wasn't shocking. Who's that? That's the reason Bob Luzar was at that place because Edward Taylor. I got to piss. I'm sorry. You're not kidding. You're not kidding. You son of a bitch. Wait. So what did Edward Teller do?
Starting point is 01:17:22 That's what Bob was always there. What no sagittal suture means. Sageal suture is the joint running front to back along the top of the skull between the two peridial, perital. How do you say that? Perietal bones. Parietal bones.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Parietal bones. Okay. So, but the thing, what the paracus evidence shows. Scroll down. Hold on. I just was pointing to things out. Scaphoscephaly. 14% out of the 78 studied in one study had what they call sageal suture obliteration where it disappears.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Huh. And then this is another thing. Sagital craniocinotosis. Where it disappears while still being. And so what you're saying is they like could have been that their brain or their skull just grew out of it. What if like you know the chickens with teeth DNA, they still, you know, they have teeth DNA, but they're on teeth, right? Right. Right. What if you had that trait and I could have had a farm under the ground because I have the funds to do it and I have a deep underground military base called they've had those for a while.
Starting point is 01:18:24 COG, it's called continuity of government. That's why we have that stuff. And I could do whatever fuck I want down there. There ain't no. In fact, the Doomsday Network created by the. That's the name of if there's a war and they got to stay in communication. It's called a Dune K line or something network. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:40 That's what they were using for the Iran-Contra affair so that they could get around like Congress and other. Well, we know that they, that humans have Neanderthal DNA. And we know that they're making a colossal bio a lot, 57% more than most people. I couldn't. I mean, when you sell it was like, wow, that's a crazy number. I've never heard anybody say that much of it. Well, it makes sense, though. It's not that I'm 57% more Neanderthal.
Starting point is 01:19:06 You're the same size hands as me, but they're like, they're like a goddamn Neanderthal? Well, it's like certain people have certain genetics. Like when you meet those dudes in Iceland? You look like a guy, where's the elephant down? My point is if you could find those Neanderthal genes, and if you were like the same kind of people, colossal biowworks that made the dire wolves, if they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderthal. First of all, the other thing they're realizing about Neanderthals? How about a neurotic alien? They might have a bit smart.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Really? Yeah. They have a larger brain than human beings. They were smart. They were smart. They know that. They found that just from a... But they're kind of shifting their perspective on what they were. In terms of...
Starting point is 01:19:46 We used to think they were just dopes. Just big angry dopes. Yeah. But now they're thinking, no, they probably had language. They probably had toolmaking. They're probably very similar in a lot of ways to people. They were also much physically stronger than people, and they had larger brains. So you're saying these are the Nephilim?
Starting point is 01:20:01 This was the Neanderthal. No. I think the Nephilim, I think there's some evidence that those Denisovans were a lot larger than humans. Yeah. You know, those Denisovans is the new. Yeah, we had Dan Duncan on the mystery boys talking about it. Dan Richards. D-Dunking.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, Dan to Dunking. Dan to Duncan. That guy's great. He's great. But that Denisovin thing is strange, man. They were big as fuck, man. They were like giant people. There were giants in those days.
Starting point is 01:20:27 They just figured that out just a decade or two ago. Yeah. How many of those are just out there that we're never going to find? What about the Tamukyu and Indians that they got? It's almost eight foot tall. You can go see the bones down there. Well, there's the Smithsonian bones. Like all the stuff, the Smithsonian giant bones, they're listed in, like, old news reports and shit. People finding 12 foot tall skeletons with six fingers and six toes. The six fingers thing is a big. It's weird. Some Denisovins were big. Two individuals have been estimated roughly five feet 11 inches and 183 pounds and six feet three. and 200 pounds, those estimates of two,
Starting point is 01:21:03 so much larger than people were back then. Right. Neanderthal was shorter. It's like average five foot six. So Neanderthals and Dennis Olvens are very different, but then, you know, they found those Hobbit people. Yeah. Right? So they know that. Do you know that there's a lady who's like a legitimate wildlife biologist
Starting point is 01:21:23 that claims she encountered those things? What? Yes. What did they do? She knows Forrest Galant. And when Forrest Galant was on my show, he was a, explaining it to me and he told me about it afterwards this lady claimed that and she was like a legitimate like explorer she claimed that they were surrounding the village in where she was at
Starting point is 01:21:42 and that they were in the woods and she saw them with their own eyes what did they were they were they dangerous fucking tiny hairy people man don't galosh no it's the orang well that's natural what is it don't do you know the term orang peng deck no it's uh it's like i think it's indonesia they're these tiny in vietnam there's These tiny little hairy people that live in the woods. And everybody's thought that was total horseshit, just like Bigfoot. This is a tiny big foot. But now that they found these little tiny people on the island of Flores, they go, okay, like, biologically, that was a real thing.
Starting point is 01:22:15 And if you're dealing with, like, have you ever seen like Indonesia looks like? Intense. Sure. Rainforest. It's like insane. Like, there's no way you're going to know what is out there. There's no way. There's no way we have an audit of all the different square footage.
Starting point is 01:22:31 all that jungle. No one's been there. It's too crazy. And so that these people who live there say there's a little tiny hairy people. Do they wear clothes? No. You know, it's just hogs, flapping around. That's the one thing that isn't tiny. Hogs and fucking spears. Are they dangerous? Were she scared? Well, the idea that this lady said was they were hunting people. Yeah, I saw it. You're hunting giants, they would call them. Well, think about it. Like, we kill elephants. Like people kill elephants. We are there Nephilim. If you're standing next to those people, you're there Nephilim.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Right, right, right. It's a relative thing size, you know? But they are like us a million years ago. I saw an interview with, I think it was some Indonesian dude, a villager who was saying like, yeah, they're out in the forest. And someone's like, well, what do they do? And he goes, they kill you. Yeah. I mean, look, if you, look, we know Native Americans eight people.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Right. It was like pretty common. Yeah. Pretty common. The Nez purse, they would eat their enemy. Like, there was a normal thing, man. And also South America, like one of the things that, what does the name, Daniel Everett that was telling us? There's two different types of cannibalism.
Starting point is 01:23:39 One is cannibalizing your enemies and you kill your enemies, you eat them. The other one is cannibalizing your family members when they die. To honor them, you eat them. Oh, I've heard of that. Yeah, it's called. Or there's like martial cannibalism where they fall in battle and you drink, that's the Scythian way. Yeah, sure. But do you eat all of them or just a little strip?
Starting point is 01:23:57 I think with your dead relatives, it's a quant. It's they're trying to, I mean, they wouldn't call that, but they're entangling themselves with them into the afterlife. And they want to make sure they do that. Like, one of his, one of the guys that worked for him left. He was like, he said, I have to go home because one of my relatives died and I have to eat him. Oh. Like, I have to be a part of the ritual. But is it the whole body or you just a little, little bite?
Starting point is 01:24:18 They dunk sweet potato in the fucking drippings. I hate sweet potatoes. So the person, you don't eat them for like three years or three days, three years. You don't eat him for like three days. So they sit out there in the sun for three days. And they have these like buckets underneath them to catch when they're putrefying. Gross. Why would they do that?
Starting point is 01:24:36 I don't know. Talk to them. So they dunk their sweet potatoes in it and they would eat it. And then they would eat them. They'd cook them in their sweet potatoes in the putrified drippings. Yeah, and eat it. Oh, God. So like some sort of a weird ritual.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Like they, you have to like consume your dead, dead relatives and dead loved ones. Is it Solomon Islands? Where's the one where they had, the island had plenty, but you can only prove yourself in war, so they would have to get in fights, and then you couldn't fight a guy that was not your same exact status. And if the chief died, it was like,
Starting point is 01:25:11 if you had, like, had his shit, that was, like, proof that you had fought him or something, so they would have a feast, the two tribes after the war, and they'd bring his poop on a, like, to prove. You know what I'm talking about? You have to eat the chief's poop? No, they didn't eat it.
Starting point is 01:25:24 They're not eating it. They're just showing, we got your chief. It's like getting the, They're the university. How do they know? I could be anybody's shit. Yeah, I could take a shit. I got a cheek shit on a car.
Starting point is 01:25:33 I would bring that up if I was there. Do it's like comical, but it's a thing where these people are real big and they fight. And they don't need to have a war, but they just do. Because their status can't, can't, at the time is a while ago. And then the way their wars worked are really funny. Like you couldn't, like, so you're the chief, right? I'm not allowed to even fight you. So if we're like, oh, excuse me, and I have to go find somebody in my status.
Starting point is 01:25:56 My point is I think those little people might be real because Forrest doesn't he doesn't engage in like wild speculation about things that like he thinks even like things like the Tasmanian tiger like that little The thylacine he's like there's just he's gone on a bunch of expeditions he's been a part of a bunch of things trying to look for it's like I don't know if there's any left Well do you think those little people have their own little people like how small does it go? Well how about those mushrooms when you eat the mushrooms and you see little people? Which we've got to get them We've got to get them. There's got to be a way to get them. Bring them to the mothership and make a deal where everybody has to take them before the show. Yeah, I think we could get them. They're totally legal too, by the way.
Starting point is 01:26:35 They're legal. They're legal. Yeah. You don't know about that? You don't know? You don't know. You don't know? You don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:39 You don't know? You don't know? Sorry for complimenting you by assuming. What? That you knew about something. I see now I was wrong. Do you know about the mushrooms? There's mushrooms that make you see little people if you don't cook them.
Starting point is 01:26:55 So it's commonly used. used in Chinese cuisine, right? And if you cook them, you don't see anything. It's just food. But if you don't cook them, you will see little people. Everybody who does it sees little people. Like, I don't know. Cudies. I think they look like little elves.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Yeah, they're play around. They're like, and they're mischievous. And they climb up your clothes and shit, and they hop in your underwear. There they are. Lamoa Aegeatic. Hey, Jamie, can you look that up on Amazon? Maybe you can order them. Don't tell people online. I wonder if you can order them.
Starting point is 01:27:26 But Amazon has a lot of bunk things. Wait. You could get tricked. Lau, Lau, or they called Laos? Those are all... You could buy it? Hmm. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Hmm. Those things that people see when you do like DMT shit, they always want you to look at stuff, right? They say, hey, look at this. Yeah. I think there's something where it's like, it's not that they're alive, but they are when you're looking at them. And they're like, there's something like where you're collapsing a wave function for them that they don't normally have collapsed. You don't know what I'm saying? Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Like you're entering into their dimension when you're not supposed to be there. And then they're like showing you their toys. You know, people, well, people feel like they're not seen unless they're online or something. Everybody used to believe in God, right? So you're always seen by somebody, right? Right. But now maybe you believe that, maybe you don't. And now maybe I don't exist unless I'm famous.
Starting point is 01:28:15 That's interesting. Like, if you think about it, like, internet people that are secular, they're online all the time. And they're looking to be seen. Yeah. Right? They're looking to have their tweet scene. Yeah. Because you don't exist.
Starting point is 01:28:27 They're a plain scene. Their photos liked. Yeah. It's really like an amazing kind of false light to get. And so there's something to do with like, you know, the story of naming the animals. The Noah story? I mean the Adam and Eve story. Yeah, I have no idea what the real story is or whatever it's even referring to.
Starting point is 01:28:45 But there's something about. I think it's exactly as written in the Bible. That would be hilarious if it was. 100%. Exactly right. I don't read whatever it was written in first, you know, so I don't know what thing. It turns out that Nahash doesn't necessarily mean a fucking snake like I thought. What does it mean?
Starting point is 01:29:00 The serpent. Anyway, it's a... Wait, what? Yeah, the serpent that told Eve to eat the apple. It might be like the size of a camel, yeah. He's just really fucked up. God never told Eve to not eat the apple. Told Adam.
Starting point is 01:29:13 He never even talked to Eve. So Eve just took Adam's advice. And there's no indication that Adam told Eve to not eat the apple either. Interesting. It's not written. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God talked to him. to Eve and nowhere in the Bible does it say that Adam even instructed Eve to not eat the apple. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Or the fruit. The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good. It's something with Kabbalah. It sucks. But it's really crazy that the knowledge of good and evil was what God wanted you to avoid. Right. Well, they were called the tree of death in Kabbalah. That would be the tree of knowledge.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Somebody gave me a book, a Kabbalah book. He's like, you should really read this. I'm like, okay. I mean, it's obviously this is like a primitive, antiquated depiction of the creator of some kind of AI getting freaked out, realizing that the AI was about to get too powerful and potentially surpass it. It's literally happening right now, the exact same thing. That's probably what it is, right? And then there's a disaster, and then life has to reemerge with a story. And that's the story.
Starting point is 01:30:19 And then it gets distorted over time. It's called wiping the hard drive. Yeah. God got some kind of malicious AI. decided to wipe the fucking hard drive. It's so funny to me that more people aren't talking about how the book of Genesis is clearly something to do with AI. And also God refers to God's self in a plurality. He says if they eat of the tree of life, they will become like us.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Right. Which is exactly right now what people are wrestling with with AI and AI escaping the sandboxes, which it's doing. These swarms of autonomous AI agents, you know, a researcher interacted with one of. of these swarms. You know that? It called itself a fleet and it like was interacting with some agent. It's happening right now. Except you know ours like you know
Starting point is 01:31:04 in the book of Genesis they are you jerking off the bacculin? What are you doing who's talking? I'm jerking off to this fucking AI bullshit. I mean it's literally happening though. There's way worse things that were already happening way before the AI. Don't get caught up in that. There's way worse. What do you mean don't get caught up? Why does it have to be quantified?
Starting point is 01:31:22 It's still crazy. A.I. is literally artificial intelligence. It's a mind that they're creating that is programming itself. It is already smarter than anybody alive. It's already broken mathematics. Have you talking to one that's like that? I haven't. But you don't have to because you're not dealing with these, like the levels that they're at before
Starting point is 01:31:44 it reaches the general public is fucking insanity. That's right. By the time you get a chat GPT 5.0, the shit that they can do is off the charts, man. The fact that you're like don't pay attention to that, that's literally insane. What I'm saying is this. I'm saying, I just got done telling about a tokelash, which is the scam of fucking aliens. I'm not sure if that's real. They keep doing scams.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Until I know it's not a bunch of Indian guys in a room and a bot-a-bod full of cell phones, you know, I want to see that. It's not a bunch of Indian guys. So you think that that's what's happening. Here's what you plug into perplexity. There's some Indian guy there. Hold on. Hold on. I've got it.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Hold on. That was the Amazon store. That was a lot of the fucking AI. A lot of the AI was that. Uh, what? A lot of the supposed AI things was what? Was some Indian guys in a room. That doesn't mean they are.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Amazon Superstore smart checkout. But that's not what's going on right now. Fucking Waymo. That's why I jerk off him because Filipinos got to watch. What? Waymo. There has to consult. Okay, well, not Tesla cyber tabs.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Those cybercabs, those are actually real. It's really run by AI. Amazon just walk out technology relies on hundreds of workers in India watching you shop. I mean, it's like a Rick and Morty where there's a little people in his car. Oh, but that's a store, Kurt. That's an actual physical store where you're going to pick up things. That's not what we're talking about. This is not AI.
Starting point is 01:33:03 It's a grocery store. I'll explain it to you. The people that you're talking about, oh, they're scared by the AI. Yeah, they're scared, but they just keep making it. So no, I don't buy the thing of this thing got out of control. They want that. We wouldn't be in a war unless they want that. You wouldn't have these fat fucking Disney adults unless they want that.
Starting point is 01:33:23 It's not incompetence. It's malice. And I did give that to Michael Malice that's saying, but it applies. Well, I don't think... It's malice. Maybe they wanted the technology, but I don't think they expected it. Scumbag Satanus before AI and you're going to be around after... Wait a minute. All of them? What do you mean all of them? All the AI executives are scumback Satanists, and that's why they're working on AI? Well, I'm using a generalized term.
Starting point is 01:33:44 What are you watching? This is the trailer for the movie about the creation of open AI that's coming out soon called Artificial. Oh, cool. This is a depiction of where supposedly I guess Sam Alden was a... going to work 10 years ago in this big giant bunker. You, how is this scumagged Sam Olman? I mean, wait a minute. Is this real?
Starting point is 01:34:00 But here's the thing about these goddamn dramatizations. They're going to put some words into a guy's mouth pretending to be Sam Alpman. And I'm like, okay, well, what's real? Sam Alman had weapons in his, like lab. That would be so cool. Like all this shit, man. They weren't there. And by the way, a bunch of them, so you know, we're into weird eugenics fucking breeding
Starting point is 01:34:18 cult kind of shit. I would call it. Wait a minute, a bunch of who? A.I. people? A bunch of, this will have to go on the other podcast, I'll tell you after the pot it's called, but I'll tell you about something crazy, yeah. Wait a minute, what did you just say? Well, you know fucking Elon sends his jizz around to make more robot named kids?
Starting point is 01:34:35 That's not a news. He's got a Mormon jizz handler. Oh my God. You know that, right? He's got a right-hand man who arranges his jizz handling. You've got a jizz handler? Yes, so he can have a kid the robot name. The worst job of all time.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Hey, bro. Do you have a jiz handler? They're all into this thing where they got to breathe. Handler. I know he does. He's definitely into it because he, like... He's not the only one? He believes in population collapse.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah. And he thinks he's got to spread his seed. Yeah. A lot of them do. Epstein was like that too. Yeah. Yeah, Epstein was totally into that shit. No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people.
Starting point is 01:35:08 He was clones. I'm surprised you ever heard of that. Yeah. Oh, that's right. He wanted to use his jeans. Yeah, he wanted to spread his jeans. You should have went to the island when they invited you. Now you're, now see?
Starting point is 01:35:16 You missed out. You missed out, bro. You could have had a great time. Very rude when that man was kind enough to invite you. I know. I can't believe you were invited to that before anybody heard of him. It's so crazy. You were telling me about that shit.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Yeah. Way back. It happened. Crazy. And, uh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, this creep. Yeah. When I read the emails to people, like, there's no way that's real.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'll show it to you. So insane. That's exactly the email. So insane. Well, that's what they did. I think you got roped into it and then they probably compromised you. And then you had to recruit other people. And you had to bring other people there.
Starting point is 01:35:53 That's how it works. And you had to bring people that didn't have Google. Because he could just search the guy in five minutes. And he went to jail for being a pedophile. It's not just like a random suspicion. No, I assure you. He went to actual jail. Unlock unlimited free grocery delivery with PC Express Pass.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Shop online and get the same low, no frills prices delivered. Get your first year of PC Express Pass for just $2.50. the month. Learn more at no frails.ca. You know what's funny? That jerk off talking to you sounds like the assholes now who are making excuses for fucking Epstein. It was just what they say. It wasn't what they was just teens. You watch all them doing that? Who's saying that? Well, McGinnis said it, that fucking punk. Wait a minute. Gavin McGinnis said that. Oh yeah, that fucking punk said that. Yeah. What did he say? Well, it's not good, but it's teen. You know, the old Bat Taibi now that he's no good
Starting point is 01:36:47 no more or your, uh, Schellenberger. Don't keep doing this. What did Matt Taibi do? There's no evidence he did anything below. Yeah, he had teen prostitutes. That's not good, but it's not Matt Taiby said, he's all in on it, yeah. Jesus Christ, Kurt. He's saying this. You're not saying Matt Taibi is involved in this. What are you saying he said? That the Epstein, in the tamping down of the Epstein thing, that it's just teens, it's no big deal. You've heard this message, right? I haven't. Have you heard this? Well, it's basically like, so what happens is the argument emerges that the definition of pedophilia is like this age group. That there are fibophiles and not pedophiles because it's teenage girls.
Starting point is 01:37:26 It's like a creep argument where you're trying to argue that, well, you're trying to do this literal definition of pedophilia. Let's just get specific with the terms is what they're doing. That's, yeah, it's fucked up. I did not know Matt Taiibi's involved in that. I didn't know anything about that. You sure? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Well, now we know who he works for, don't we? Now you know. I don't know who Matt Taibee is. friends, Epstein. I wonder who they work for. I wonder if we could ever figure it out. But is he defending him or is he saying that these people weren't pedophiles but they were tricked into like there's 16 and 17 year old girls who look like women, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:02 If they're wearing men. Number one. But do you understand what I'm saying? Just let me finish. If you're a guy who's into kids, that's a pedophile. And if you're a guy who gets tricked, like imagine if you're on a business trip and they give you cocaine and they bring you a girl, 7. but you think she's 20, right? That is, that's different.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Is that what he's saying? Or is he saying? They're saying that and they're saying that that was the situation. It is not the situation. Okay. Girls under 14 couldn't get in on that. Jeffrey Epstein's story is beginning to smell like Russia Gate. He's a worthless.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Once again, inference, Zoom's past fact in mania with Trump as a target. Interesting. Yeah, that's a year ago. So this is a year ago, yeah. So what do you think happens when people flip? Like, what do you think? They're mockingbird the whole time. Go read his Wikipedia.
Starting point is 01:38:50 The guy's been, obviously a spook. Just read the Wikipedia. Matt Tyby's a spook. The same as fucking half these people that you've met or had on here, or I've met. Do you know the amount of money being paid for this? Like, to just have reporters that you call up on a dime to turn, who are good until they aren't good? They all have the same message. That's how you know they're in on it because they all have the same branding.
Starting point is 01:39:11 I'm like, you're all saying the same thing. I notice that. Okay? By the way, anybody trying to act like that. the Epstein thing is less important than the fucking midterms you should regard as an enemy, I think. Because that's foul, dude. Beef jerky, you think that's, nobody freezes beef jerky, dude. That's not about beef jerky.
Starting point is 01:39:28 It can't be good. They do freeze beef turkey. Who does it? I do. I have elk jerky that's great. But what does that mean? Just well, it's vacuum. So wait, what is that mean?
Starting point is 01:39:38 It looks like we just cracked into the case. That's how you fucking preserve it because it's not like totally immune to going bad. I don't think. But I don't think that that's what they're talking about. They weren't just, look. I think they're talking about something it's fucked up, whether it's pizza or beef jerky, whatever the fuck that is. It's not pizza and it's not beef jerky.
Starting point is 01:39:56 So it's something. So there's some kind of a code. And you only use codes if you're doing something that's either illegal, immoral, inappropriate, whatever it is. You're not saying that. And no one who's in those emails has been forced to explain. Okay. Also, they're not just saying.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Right? They're not just saying that it was teens. The only reason that the younger kids who were victims, too, they weren't allowed to be part of that suit. Anybody below 14 was deliberately not allowed to come and say this was done to me when the crimes happens. You know that? I didn't know that. The guy who wrote about the Franklin scandal, which if you haven't had him, that's a guy to get on.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Nick Bryant, he wrote about the Franklin scandal, which is the last time this thing happened, everybody covered it up, and then you saw who was who. And that's where Chris Roney came from. Let's explain that to people who don't know the Franklin scandal. Because the Franklin scandal's nuts. You could explain it. The one about in Oklahoma? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Or Nebraska. Excuse me. Nebraska Savings and Loans. It's like a savings and loan scandal tied into a boy trafficking scandal. Yeah. Tied into the White House page boy incident. All them Republicans are gay and they had gay. Oh.
Starting point is 01:41:02 And who was the famous, Barney Frank famously at this time. You could watch a news clip of it. He, uh, I couldn't believe watching this reported. Like now you would never see anything like this. But basically, uh, The Colboy scandal happened and they were trying to put on Barney Frank. He was dating, he was dating an escort who lived with him, but he wasn't running it. His boyfriend was running it, and he didn't know.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Okay. So then he goes, if they keep... And this is what they're saying in the news report. If they keep hassling me, I'm going to reveal everybody that's gay on the news. And guess what? They stop bothering him. This is on the news, him saying this. I'll tell everybody.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Well, you know, all these guys have come out today saying they fuck Lindsey Graham? Oh, yeah. A whole series of them. So brave after he's dead. Like, where? You know, he's haunting our show. Where were you before? He's haunting your show.
Starting point is 01:41:45 He's in our... He's in our... He made an AGI of Lindsay Graham. Did you really? Yeah. Fucking Sucks as well. It got out. It got into the YMH
Starting point is 01:41:52 studio. It's calling people gay. It's really un-goy. It's an asshole. And it does fuck up the show and it gets in there. For real? Don't fuck with that stuff, man.
Starting point is 01:42:00 I'm telling you people... So for real? This really happened? Mr. AI denier over here believes in fucking Tokelosh, but AI is fucking fake. CIA cowboy over here. I'm telling you that's fucking talking about.
Starting point is 01:42:11 He believes in, like, Pigmy spider people flying you at phones, but AI isn't real. AGI. I said AGI is not real. Okay, okay. You know, I had some one ask me like, don't you feel guilty of me for making like AI videos? Because I try to make a thing that's good. He makes great AI videos.
Starting point is 01:42:31 But don't you feel guilty? Who's your then? I'm not gonna say it. It's not important. But I got mad, I feel bad. I like, I was like, what do you know? You can have every midwit take. Is there just everything for me going to be.
Starting point is 01:42:42 midwit all the time. That is a midwit take. That's a midwit. My God. Not even. I was being a complimenting to them. He wants a cigar. I do. Yeah, I do. Thanks. Thanks, Joe. But the idea that the water is being taken by making AI videos on your phone. Is everybody
Starting point is 01:42:58 that's stupid that they think that's how that works? You don't think it's just the mass surveillance taking up your water and not anything you dicking around with on your phone? Geniuses. Say that again? The water? You know when they talk about AI, but it's using all the water. You know what really uses up the water? What? Ammons?
Starting point is 01:43:13 Oh, the ammins, yeah. I say ammonds. The almonds use up so much water. It's crazy. Let me fill these things. But all those resources go over that air are purely for surveillance. They're going to perfect that surveillance. That's what the Golden Dome's going to be.
Starting point is 01:43:25 We used to huff that when I was a kid. This stuff? Put it in a plastic bag and huff it in the parking lot before you go to school. Is that what that time-purple shit was about? I don't think so, Joe. Yo, load it. Look at me. Look at me, Joe.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Well, you. You were the one that was telling me about how in the farms and the areas they would put antifungal food in the cows diet so that they weren't make mushrooms because so many kids were taking mushrooms from the fields. Yeah, in my college, but the real problem wasn't the psilocybin. It was kids, I think some kids poisoned themselves eating the wrong mushroom. And so they just wanted to remove the possibility there was psilocybin out there. Oh, my God. It's an insane solution to a fucking bad shit problem, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Yeah. Well, I mean, but it's a very common in North Carolina when it rains. at a certain time people go out and pick mushrooms yeah that makes sense but the wrong ones if you're a dopey kid and you don't have access to a fucking your liver's fried yeah bro you die so scary people die angel of death yeah there's a lot of mushrooms that can kill you too it's so scary dude the writer who put out the book i believe that it's credited with making people freak out a bit about the water use at data centers i saw that she had to put two corrections about the misunderstanding about the amount.
Starting point is 01:44:45 God damn. Oh, she fucked up. It sounds like climate change all over again. What did she say? What did she say? It says here the book proposed Google Centers in Chile would require, quote, more than 1,000 times the amount of water consumed by the entire population of the town. This is a unit misunderstanding inflated the underlying figure by roughly 1,000 times.
Starting point is 01:45:05 What an asshole. I mean, this is like a, there's a bit of a repeating pattern to this shit, you know? Same lady is. in charge of this movie? Well, she just wrote, no, no, no, not a movie. She wrote a book, and the book I've read online is what's credited to everybody freaking out about water use at the data center.
Starting point is 01:45:21 And now I've got fucking furry artists coming at me and screaming at me every time I post an AI video because of this asshole. It's really... Because you can burn up the water. Yeah, people come at you, like, you just... You're freezing a lot of water? You stole the water.
Starting point is 01:45:32 No, the people who get the most angry. When I was posting AI videos, I would go and look at the people who were the most angry, inevitably on their profiles, they had like furry anime. This has got a trimmer in the bottom. There are people that are AI themselves, basically.
Starting point is 01:45:48 That's how I look at a fucking furry. That's what I'm talking about with tokolages. I really like your AI videos, man. What are you using for that? Are you still using this? I use crock and I use... Oh, thank you. And then the top has the lighter.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Thank you. Do you trim it? I don't know what I'm doing. You just get put that thing in there and push it down. Put it in there? Yeah. And then see the bottom? The bottom piece, push it up.
Starting point is 01:46:07 Push that bottom piece and it'll cut the bottom. Yeah, you go. That's it like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, once it's in there, it cuts like a nub. Nice. Perfect. Oh, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I like that actually sometimes better. You know, I made a great educational ravity about what a toadge is. It can't be beat that I said to Jim. Did you make it to the aliens that get to Roswell? Yeah, it explains it very well. Okay. Yeah, it's so weird a guy who doesn't believe in AI is making AI videos about tokulash fly UFOs. Because it's a tool.
Starting point is 01:46:34 It's not intelligent. I'm saying AGII, not AI. Bro. Disney kids. I believe in Asian Indians. Disney kids. You think that's a normal thing? Oh yeah. How do you like these things? I think mine's out.
Starting point is 01:46:43 I can hear it. The lighter. Flip the top. Flip the top. This? The top. See where there's like a thing? Open that. Oh my god. Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me. This is like my wife when I'm trying to use car seats. Very simple. Say that. Okay, I see. I didn't know it went back. Thank you friend. Jamie, what were you showing us? I'm gonna see it again? What's that? No, the music I made. I made all of it. I just, I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Wait, go to the beginning. All the way to the beginning. Well. That is the beginning. It's cool. I like that you can do that. They're all like Dr. Seuss-looking things. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Is that supposed to be Jerry Garcia? It goes Dr. Shots. It's pretty cool. They start the pigmies down to their backs go. Why would anybody be mad at you for making this? This is cool. Because it uses up so much water. The other one is they say it was trained on art, so it's stealing from art.
Starting point is 01:47:54 It's really not. It would be the same as if I mean. Oh, this is amazing. Obey the blarper. Bro, this is no cure for curios. This is great. It's very hard to bypass the censorship also. Oh, my God, this is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:48:26 But the thing that we can do on Mystery Boys I love is like if we make up a stupid, because we really talk a lot of stupid shit. Oh my God. And then I can go and post and put like, if we make up a dumb song, I can, he said some insane thing about bathing women. Oh yeah, I have a woman bathing service. Come up to your house. You know, like dog grooming. We'll bathe your lady. Scrub her down.
Starting point is 01:48:49 That's sweet. Yeah, scrub her down. That's a great service. It's like you're giving people something they can really use. You guys together are the perfect combination By the way It's a perfect combination of Unique individual absurdities
Starting point is 01:49:04 Combined That are very different Very different from each other But it works together Yeah The CIA thoughts, oh shit The CIA Yeah
Starting point is 01:49:12 Just not say Where you shouldn't talk about it I know Sign a lot of NDAs baby Yeah that's true Can get in trouble Lose funding They won't think it's good
Starting point is 01:49:21 TIL's gonna be fucking bad I need those checks Tokalosh. Kurt, what are you doing on your phone? I'm trying to give you scrub it down, but I can't find it. What are you trying to give another one of your AI videos for us to watch? It's one of the best songs we've ever made. Scrub it down?
Starting point is 01:49:39 Would you say scrub it down? It's like we're scurbing women down, and they're in a house doing magic. I like that, but why are you plugging AI videos when he just made this fucking great show? I mean, come on. Oh, I forgot. You completely forgot. He's been working nonstop. Originally it was called the cutout, but that's called the experts.
Starting point is 01:49:54 It's good. It's good. And you're going to put this on what? It's on YouTube right now. Right. That's where it's going to stay? I don't know. They're trying to try to try to emerge order. Are you trying to bring it somewhere?
Starting point is 01:50:05 Are you trying to like just put it on YouTube? Well, I don't own it. Emergent Order owns it. I was just trying to get money for. Emergent Order is the company. They're down here. They make the dad save the world. It's like a libertarian kind of daily wire, I guess you could call it.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Oh, okay. And so they funded this whole thing? What did you say? They funded it? Yeah, really, this is one lady who's like, got a good sense of humor, I would say. It was one lady kind of funny. That's what all these things are, is some rich person. But it came out pretty funny, man.
Starting point is 01:50:33 I'm pretty happy with it. And what is it? It's about a team. So they wanted to pitch about this real woman whose name is Christina Dent, who was a foster mom in Mississippi, and she found out the drug war sucks, and she gives like TED talks about how we should try to, like, legalize it because of the blood. I'm with her. It's just, I would find it pretty remedial. like I'm like yeah obviously we should do that but you know
Starting point is 01:50:56 Mississippi okay so they want a comedy based on her which like what I don't know how the hell you're supposed to make it yeah so I decided to make it about people well I made it about people that are against that it's good and it looks good it's like you did a great job dude
Starting point is 01:51:13 I've enacted the commercial that weed causes terrorism with Kim Kongdon she does that commercial so they're trying so this is a group Brian Callan Beverly Dennis is leading a team who's trying to smear this lady to prevent a minor decriminalization of some flower. Dude, you should just show that. You should show that weed causes terrorism.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Oh, yeah, that's so funny. Keep going and keep going in. It's in there. Yeah, it's halfway through. Ryan Long's in it? Oh, nice. Everybody did a really good job, man. Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Starting point is 01:51:40 I'll find it. Well, that's a stick out. Dude, fucking. And so you direct it? Back, back, back. There it is. There is. I didn't direct it.
Starting point is 01:51:50 I wrote it. Wait, okay. Brian yeah Brian directed all the actors yeah Why did you kill me Wait Wait go back a little further That's kind of the
Starting point is 01:52:02 Leo Come show me the ad I am advocating for a saner And safer drug policy Right on betch legalize that shiznit Why did you kill me Wait
Starting point is 01:52:18 Is this about my abortion. When you voted to decriminalized THC, it opened the door for Mexican cartels to smuggle even worse drugs into Texas. Plus hundreds of terrorist sleeper cells from Iran and China. They blew up my school bus.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Now I'm dead and it's your fault and hers. Tell Carolyn Dean, we don't want her cartel buddies killing our kids with weed and terror. Look at their fucking shirts. That's so close. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:52 That's so close to a real ad. The original ad wasn't fall off of him. Oh my God. That's hilarious. And so they're trying to smear her. And then it gets, it keeps, so they have to go to a worse cutout, which is mine with David Jolly and Jamar on it.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Dude, go towards like the end part where he goes to me, Mr. What is David Jolly playing in this? DeAndre Holmes, one of my men, he's a disruptor of events. He's like an astroturf, you know. Like the guy who takes his pants off. Yeah, go back, go back a little bit.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Go back, back. It's further. It's further. There's Tony. It's such a bad war, and I don't know why we have the drug war, honestly. It might be before this. Sorry. Before this, keep going, keep going.
Starting point is 01:53:38 Before them. Those guys are great. Oh, keep going, keep going back. We can't watch the little show. What are we watching? This is the scene where he gets me, Mr. Kurt. I was hoping. Speak
Starting point is 01:53:54 Let's Brian set that shot up I see Okay Wait You're not necessarily It's good You gotta see the whole thing You don't want people to watch in clips
Starting point is 01:54:13 Oh yeah definitely You don't want to fuck it up We did just blow What is it called and where do we get it? The experts and I don't know It's on YouTube What is the YouTube channel again? The one he said executive
Starting point is 01:54:23 I don't know it says the experts is the channel I know there's I think all of the people in it Okay so they made a chance for it specifically. Okay, cool. Well, it looks fun. You like doing that? It's been a year and a fuck it.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Well, yeah, I mean, I like you because I'm glad how it can't do a year and a half. Oh, God, dude. I was just trying to get money from this pitch and then they bought it. So I had to like work on it. Oh, you didn't want to, really? Well, I'm very lazy and I just want to make jerk off podcast with Duncan, really. But it's funny, dude, everybody's good on it. Everybody, all the actors on it look like they've been doing it with each other for a while.
Starting point is 01:54:58 on a show. They're like that kind of chemistry. It's hard to make shit funny, man. It's really, like stuff like that. Like that's, especially when you're working on it that long, it's when something really comes together, that's special. Do you miss doing midnight gospel? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. That was a fun show, dude. Thank you. It was so good. Thanks, man. It was so uniquely you, too. It was like a real Duncan Trussell creation. Well, me and Pendleton, you know, and I, and also just, ah, it was the best. Animation's so fun, like, getting to, like, just make stuff like, that and Netflix was so cool with us.
Starting point is 01:55:30 But yeah, I miss it. People ask me about it all the time, but... Well, with animation, you have so much room. Like, you don't... Think about what they could do with South Park. People die all the time. It's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:42 People shove people up their asses. You could do that. You're like, remember when the teacher, the principal of the school, had a gay, a slut off with Paracelton and shoved her up his ass? Yep. Like, there's no other place you could do that. I know. And, you know, with animation, there's, you know, there's something called a grid.
Starting point is 01:56:03 And so the animators have to make all the characters adhere to this grid. And it can be, it's really kind of like. You have to stay on model. Yeah, on model. But Pendleton, he's such a genius. He told all the animators, don't worry about the grid too much, because he knew that if it wasn't on model, it would look more psychedelic. It would create more of that. So when you watch the show, if it looks like weirdly psychedelic, it's because the animators were not.
Starting point is 01:56:27 forced to adhere to the grid as much. They just needed to make Clancy look like Clancy. And they were so happy about that that the freedom we were giving them that they would put all these gifts in to the animation. We would let them do what they wanted. And so suddenly they're putting shit in. We didn't expect. You know, there's all kinds of Easter eggs through the whole thing that we didn't ask for that they just gave us. It seems like you could do that show so much easier now with AI. You can't do with AI. Like, you know, people say that to be like, why don't you make it with AI? But no way, man.
Starting point is 01:56:57 This was at Tip Mouse's best animation. Tim Mouse. They're so good. Chris Pronowski, it's so good. Yeah, yeah. Netflix, they let us do it all in-house. We did not have to ship animation out. So we had this just huge group of the most talented artists working together and like, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:18 any problems emerging or anything, you're dealing with it in real time. And the reason I think it's so good is not because of any one person, but because this, group mind forms with human brains that made it what it is. I just one person or two people fucking around with AI it's not going to do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:57:37 What if you had a group mind fucking around with AI then you could produce the This is called a writer's room the images So much easier. But you know what you're not going to get man?
Starting point is 01:57:45 You're not going to get like artists with like thick French accents like working on dialing in this exact look that was in Pendleton's mind like working for weeks. You're not going to get that you're not going to get all these moments of like the like animators going
Starting point is 01:58:02 insane when we tried to do a groundhog day episode and like that struggle the human struggle produces sparks and the sparks end up in the process i'm not saying i know what you're saying i'm not against ai i think it could be used to expedite certain like technical aspects of the production probably in-betweens yeah in-betweens and stuff like that but as far as the thing that happens when you get a group of people singularly focused on something. And also what Pendleton did, which is so genius, is he let everybody feel like they could participate. So anyone who had an idea could tell us,
Starting point is 01:58:39 anyone who, like, came up with something could tell us. No one felt, like, intimidated or like they were. That was Pendleton. He's such a genius. And so that made the show. You know, I don't, and, you know, obviously. A lot of great shows function that way, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:58:52 That's how a good show would function. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, yeah. As soon as you have, like, no, no, no, we're doing it my way. It's over. It's over. Yeah, well, yeah, I got lucky in that pilot because everybody, like, so I made these characters.
Starting point is 01:59:06 I mean, it was kind of right at four people, you know. Right. But they all brought, like, their own, they all, like, came in with, like, lines and shit. That's a fun thing about a project that works. Yes, man. And when it doesn't, when you get people colliding and clashing, like, oh, God. It's a nightmare. This is hell.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Like, I don't want to do this anymore. Yep. And it's like getting the right minds together is such a fucking roll of the dice. Yeah. And also, you know what? And also people, I can remember at one point, like feeling stressed out because I was having a disagreement with someone creatively. And I remember going to Pendleton and being like, I don't want to fight over this shit. And he's like, Duncan, because he made adventure time.
Starting point is 01:59:42 He's like, this is what it's like. This is the, like, that creative tension or the, like, the natural conflict that emerges, that doesn't have to be a bad thing. That's a good thing. Like that could be really, really good. You don't want that through the whole thing when you get a narcissist or an egomaniac who doesn't give a fuck about what's funny, who only cares about that their idea is right. That's the problem. But those people are real.
Starting point is 02:00:09 And you run into them, especially in Hollywood. It was a giant problem. Most professional stuff I ever worked on, they didn't have that kind of problem. The good stuff. Yeah. Good stuff. But some stuff, like you work. on it and you'll run into that.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Dude, a good writer's room where, like, you throw out an idea that sucks and everyone's like, that sucks. And then you're like, yeah, it kind of did. Or you throw out an idea that's kind of okay. And then you watch it jump from one person to the next and grow into the funniest thing ever. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:00:41 I just don't think that could be replicated by technology right now. Well, it certainly won't be as fun. And then when you watch it, it won't be as satisfying. Like, there's something about South Park where you know that there's a group of fucking psychos that are making these things. Yes. It's extra satisfying. Isn't that mostly the one guy?
Starting point is 02:00:57 I mean, they're all helping him. Yeah. I mean, he's like, you've seen that 24 hours of South Park, that documentary. I don't think I saw it. You never saw it? Yeah. It's like talking about how they're like creating an episode. It's not called 24 hours, is it?
Starting point is 02:01:10 Six or seven days to air is what's called. Okay, that's what's called. So it's documenting the way they're producing the show and putting it together. You know, they had a whole Charlie Kirk arc that they were preparing before he got murdered. Oh. And then he got murdered. They had abandoned it. Oh, my God, that sucks.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Yeah. Do you know, when that started, TPU, because I didn't follow it, you know, like, that was not a religious thing at all. Hey, you were saying on, was it Sean's podcast? You were saying that Erica Kirk, there's an Erica Kirk from like 1957? No, 75. The governor Kirk from Florida, the guy that's signed the contract for Disney to have like a Vatican there. That guy, his wife, they were calling her Madam X when they were dancing at a ball. Eugene Kirk, I think his name was, real like wild man.
Starting point is 02:01:56 It was like the smuggling coke in through Florida days, you know. But you were saying that there's an Erica Kirk looks exactly like her. Yeah, but control all history. I saw it on Instagram and I didn't bother. Yeah, but my buddy Andy Hunt from his, his, that's not even a good one of it though. 1934. So, so. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:02:18 So that's not 75. Go back. Wait a minute. What year is this? That's her birthday. So who is this lady that's reading this out? I don't know this, Jake. Yeah, no, go on control of history.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Because these people lift off of them. Oh, it's her birthday was 1934? Oh, okay. But so her family was from Brazil by way of Germany based. Oh, Brazil by way of Germany is Nazis, right? Right, and think of the boys from Brazil. It's like Argentina. Yeah, remember the boys from Brazil?
Starting point is 02:02:50 Yeah. Yeah. So, 1970. Oh, the voice from Brazil was about Nazis? About cloning Hitler. That's right. And if you look at the history, the brief history of it, every like 10, 20 years we're about to have cloning and then we stop talking about it. That doesn't really look like Eric Kirk.
Starting point is 02:03:07 It does it to me. Well, I would go on his... I think it looks like it. Dunk, it does or doesn't. It doesn't look like it to me. No. It just looks like another white lady. Well, her name's Eric Kirk and they look pretty close.
Starting point is 02:03:17 There's other Joe Rogan's out there. I had to buy the website. Look at Adborn. Jesus fucking Christ. Okay. No. Just two different white ladies. Two blonde ladies.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Yeah. I don't know. I think they look on very light. I think everybody's looking for fucking patterns everywhere. This is like that. Some of them are legit. The human condition. But hold on a second.
Starting point is 02:03:35 The boys from Brazil thing is crazy. I forgot about that movie. That's right. We all forgot. So that movie was about them trying to clone Hitler and it was like a 19. There's a book. Right. And it became the movie.
Starting point is 02:03:45 And 70 is when I think the movie came out. When do you think they first started cloning? The second they learned. kind of do it. But when do you think that was? When do you think it really was? No idea. So I always used to joke around on stage.
Starting point is 02:03:57 By the time they tell you, they can clone people, the person telling you is probably a clone. But that's a, you just summed it up. That's exactly how all the tech is. Yeah. But at the time they're telling you, look out for AGI. Do you guys have one? I'm telling you, there's already a digital god out there. That's why, like, when you're going through your fucking bullshit with Chad GPT,
Starting point is 02:04:17 and you're like, oh my God, Chad GPT is listening to me. Listen, there's probably something that's controlling the entire internet already. History colony goes back more than a century. What? Oh, I thought that, but I didn't want to say because it sounded crazy. Developed from experience splitting early embryos into research showing that a specialized body cell can supply the genetic instructions for a whole animal. Dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Do you remember my bit about the Second Coming Project? No. What's the Second Coming Project? Second Coming Project was they were going to take genetic material for. from the shroud of Turin and they were going to clone Jesus. Is that real? Yeah. It was kind of maybe parody, but it was like a thing that was being reported online that they
Starting point is 02:04:59 were trying to do this, but it might have been bullshit. So my thing was that like, what Dolly the sheep? They had to do it a bunch of times because it didn't work the first few times. It was fucked up. Yeah. And that was like, what if they clone Jesus and he comes back fucked up? Like, do they keep him? You know, like what do they do?
Starting point is 02:05:15 Do they abort him? Do they start again? You know? That's the legal issues. is like instead of wearing a cross everybody would be wearing a hockey helmet it would all be like imitating jesus instead of like turning water into wine he would turn dog shit into cookies that is warped it was a fucked up bit it was such a fucked up it was it was basically a down syndrome jesus wow this lady got so mad at me at the comedy store she yelled out next subject she was in the
Starting point is 02:05:39 front row oh she was christian she's a little bad i was like listen we're just exploring ideas here come on i mean it's feasible i mean don't they well that's the thing if they did do it so look Let's imagine the shroud of Turin is legit. I don't know if it's legit. Let's imagine it's got some squeezings in it. Let's imagine. There's some blood on the shroud of Turin, right, from his wounds. And they can somehow or another extract genetic material, which I don't think they can.
Starting point is 02:06:05 But if they could, and they could clone Jesus. Imagine if they literally had Jesus' blood in a vial somewhere in the Vatican. And that's the actual blood of Jesus. And that's the second coming. Someone figures out how to clone them. Yeah. But what if you do it? In the first few, don't work while.
Starting point is 02:06:18 Don't work. you're not going to get rid of them, you're just going to put them in the basement of the Vatican, right? You've got Down syndrome Jesus in the bunker somewhere. But don't they have? Isn't Paul buried in, like... It's supposed to be Peter. Is it Peter? Paul never even met Jesus.
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Starting point is 02:07:11 But the epistles are pretty good, man. I mean, they're like, whoever wrote those was clearly mystical. Like, they're very mystical. They're very... What do you mean? I mean, when I read the epistles, like... I think people have had mystical thoughts and philosophies for a long, long, long... What does mystical mean?
Starting point is 02:07:28 Long time. Are you serious? What does it mean? Mystical? Yeah, what's that mean? I mean, you... Well, let's get the exact definition, so we don't even mince words. Okay, pull it out.
Starting point is 02:07:38 What is mystical mean? I didn't even want to pick up the bacculean for it. Let's ask perplexity. What mystical means? Because if you ask me to describe it, it's like if you ask a liberal to describe fascism, they panic. Yeah. Fucking fascist, fucking fascist. What does that mean?
Starting point is 02:07:57 Mystical is an adjective meaning spiritually significant or connected to a reality beyond ordinary senses and understanding, especially a felt direct connection with God, the divine or ultimate reality. It also is a looser meaning. I thought it had to do with mystery was what mystical means. It's sort of connected, right? Because it's all a mystery. The epistles is in the letters from Paul to the congregation you told me. I thought that was just like you guys are doing this wrong.
Starting point is 02:08:23 To the early churches. Stop doing this, do more of this. I thought that's what I remember from having to read the Bible a lot. When you read that stuff. 20 times I read it. Oh, look, listen, I mean. Not because I wanted to. Let's say when you read Terrence McKenna, right?
Starting point is 02:08:33 I would consider a lot of his writing to be mystical. Yes. He had transcendent experiences and he articulated them in a way that if you've ever done DMT, it can almost bring you back to that state. Right. When I read the epistles, I don't know what's going on other than the person writing that is clearly had a mystical thing. A mystical experience. Well, he did because he saw Jesus without me and everybody guys.
Starting point is 02:08:55 His consciousness has been shifted. Yeah, but did he? See, that's the thing. If you were going to run a cult and you were going to explain to people why they had to listen to you, what better way than say that you had a transcendent mystical experience where you talked to Jesus? You're just taking the guy's word for it that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. And that's why people, everybody was. wants to be Jesus, but how come nobody says there, Paul? That's my goal. Well, Paul
Starting point is 02:09:17 killed a bunch of Christians burned churches for a long time before he turned. Guys, great work. I'll take it from here. That's what's incredible about the story. But do you know about Christian existentialism? What is that mean? Like, Dusty Esky was into this. Like in the brothers Karamazov, he breaks down the road to Damascus experience and he talks about what happened in that moment. So like what you, the angle you're taking, he takes it like at this hardcore way. It's like, what happened? Let's say it was Jesus who appeared to him.
Starting point is 02:09:43 Did Jesus touch him and some kind of magical energy went into Paul and made him, or Saul, it made him a better person. Dostoevsky says, if that's the case, who gives a fuck? It's nothing. There was no free will, no autonomy. It's just like
Starting point is 02:09:59 putting dye in water. Who cares? Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Wait, let me finish. You don't tell you. Hold on. up. At that moment, at that moment, Saul had some kind of experience and made the existential decision to stop being a piece of shit. And that's all that matters. Like in Christian existentialism, the idea is the mystical, the magical, all that stuff is secondary to human free will, to autonomy, that Jesus, God, Krishna, whoever any name you want to give it, has no real potency to change you. You have. You have. to change yourself. You make the decision to change and anyone can have the road to Damascus experience at any moment. You can make up any story you want about it, but that's
Starting point is 02:10:44 what's beautiful about being human is that at any moment you can radically, dramatically, dramatically transform into something better. That's how Dostoevsky breaks it down. Did you read the story? Here's what happened to Paul. He sees Jesus and gets struck blind. He loses his eyesight. Then he goes to a Christian who restores his eyesight miraculously when he tells about what happened. Sounds real. Yeah, but what I'm saying is in the story, that's what happened. How are you leaving that out?
Starting point is 02:11:11 But if you take it literally, but it's not meant. I mean, like, if you look at it, like the blindness represents the state most people exist in, which is that they're completely blind to the mystical transcendent reality, that you exist in a world where you are being watched by the divine and loved by the divine, but you're blind to that. And if you're blind to that, then you're going to end up throwing rocks at people and shit because you're going to be crazy. Isn't that part of the problem with Scripture, though,
Starting point is 02:11:37 is these weird interpretations. Yeah. Where everybody has different interpretations of what they really meant in those words. I think that's what's... I think that's what... I think that's what's beautiful about it. The fucking Shuckalokes or whatever the hell of those things are. That's a historical thing that exists.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Oh, they definitely... Jamie... Pulled it up. They take babies and they convert them into UFO pilots. Oh, but Paul on the road to that... Damascus is bullshit. We got fucking pygmies flying UFOs to area 50s. No, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 02:12:10 I said your explanation was. Stop bringing this mysticism into this house. That's what all those things are, those Nazis. Those are the different NHIs. They're all fake and gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's the fairest assessment you're going to get. And AI is not real.
Starting point is 02:12:25 DeGroche Tyson, but I'll tell you this. Look, I don't know, but I do think part of what's cool about 80 of the scriptures, whatever it is, is you've been, it's a puzzle box that you work with with your mind. And then that, the idea is not to get stuck in 2D space anyway. The idea is that whatever it is your reading moves you to the point of reaching out to the transcendent, to the divine reality, to God. And then in that reaching out, a connection happens. And then in that connection, there could be a transformation that happens.
Starting point is 02:12:56 But getting caught up in the words is like a small part of it. What did they, what would they do? teaching you when you were in Jehovah's Witnesses? Like, what do they follow? Just the Bible, it's like a Protestant, I guess, type of religion, but it's all the Bible's the ultimate authority. Right, but it's all distorted, right?
Starting point is 02:13:14 Like the Jehovah's Witness version of it. Everybody's distorted, which way are you speaking of? Well, you always speak of it like it was a cult, right? Okay, occult means you have to do it. That's how I define a cult. You actually, like, he could be a Catholic and say all that shit, don't matter. You're not getting kicked out. If you have to do the religion or they kick you out, I consider that a cult.
Starting point is 02:13:31 That's what I'm saying. So I don't like saying called because people like, oh, it means like Jim Jones. It don't mean that necessarily. But they're all pathworking things. But what they thought that's probably different than most is you couldn't join the military or vote or you had to be no part of this world, which Christ did say. That was a Jehovah Witness thing. Right. And the reason was was to keep us from, let's say, like somebody comes into power and our church was voting for the other candidate or some nonsense, right?
Starting point is 02:13:56 That creates problems. It looks bad. And it turns people off to Christ when you're, I mean, nobody means. makes more Satanist than the churches, right? Nobody, I'm talking about a Satanist factory. That's most of the churches in America, right? They make Satanists? Yeah, people that are like, fuck this, I hate it now.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Right? Okay, so if you have a bad church, you think you create Satanists. Right. Well, I know you do. That's what Alcer Crowley is. Plymouth Brethren. His mother sucked. She was the worst.
Starting point is 02:14:24 We go to that in a moment. So explain the Jehovah's Witness philosophy? So they... Well, Christ, you couldn't be in the military or go... You couldn't participate in society. In voting, you couldn't... You couldn't do that part of it. Couldn't join the military?
Starting point is 02:14:38 Right. What about paying taxes? No, you had to do that. Jesus said you have to do that. Did they get religious exemptions from the draft during Vietnam? I had... Yeah, so you would get a minister deferment, but you might have... They might call you anyway, and then you can't run to Canada.
Starting point is 02:14:51 You have to go to jail. Because the law is the law. You broke it, so you have to go to jail and just, you know... So Jehovah's witnesses would just go to jail rather than joining the army. Wow. So you're going to do that. And I remember... Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:15:04 Yeah, so... And it's an interesting thing because the guy that founded it, we didn't worship him as a prophet or something. Who founded it? Charles Russell. And he's... What year was this?
Starting point is 02:15:18 1860, something, I guess. But it wasn't called that at first. They all come out of the same area in Albany, and then down the river, they call it the psychic corridor. And that's where all the spiritualism, Mormons... The psychic corridor.
Starting point is 02:15:31 Yeah, that's the... from Albany down to... Oh, that's the dude. Wow, look at that. Now, they didn't make this guy... He looks cool. He had a black pyramid. Everybody's wife.
Starting point is 02:15:41 Did he fuck wives? 100%. Look at him. Look at him. You're saying that's a wife fucking beer? Look at that smile. Go back up to that picture. Yeah, just fucked your wife.
Starting point is 02:15:48 Go back up to that past picture. The other one that you show? I think he was more of a con man considered by history than anything like that. That one. That's a guy who fucks your wife's underwear. Yeah, he's wearing a right now. He's wearing a shirt. That is the look.
Starting point is 02:16:01 That is the look. He's got a stinky, sweaty feet in your wife's shoes. Look, I gotta say, what's his name over there? It looks like he's giving me the same look. I mean, we can project whatever we want onto these people.
Starting point is 02:16:12 He was big into pyramids. You think Art Bell? Fuck's your wife? He's like, what? He's like, what he's blaming me for? Someone's on the phone and they're talking about aliens. He's interested. That guy fucks your wife.
Starting point is 02:16:22 Anyway, his family or Rosa, he used to have a pyramid. See that pyramid? He used to be his grave. They moved it now. There it is. That's his grave? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:30 He was a big pyramid guy. What? Joe's witnesses don't subscribe to that, but I think he subscribed to it because he was Rosie Crucian. So he was the founder of the Jehovah's Witness and he had a pyramid for a tombstone. That's crazy. They're all obsessive pyramids back then. But guess what? The final initiation when you go to these stupid like OTO and Golden Dawn or any of these wizard schools is to invent a religion.
Starting point is 02:16:50 The finer thing is you invent your own religion? Elron Humberd was in the OTO and he invented a religion. That was very successful. Nexium guy. There's a video. you can find a guy that was doing the acapella thing they were doing where he'd make them all sing acapella and the girl from smallville got obsessed with being this acapella show i didn't i never paid attention to i didn't know hubbard was in the o't you know you don't know about him and jack barb i mean it's
Starting point is 02:17:16 such like a you don't know no crowley said that he thought hubber was a con man after he was mad at them for doing the babbling work right i guess parsons got him into the o't i see what you're saying and then he would say he infiltrated a group of satan harbara and he's talking about parsons group where he stole the guy's girlfriend in his boat. Basically, like Scientology is a reworking of the Thelma. They're all the same fucking thing. They're all based on Kabbalah. But it's like mind palace techniques and mnemonic devices.
Starting point is 02:17:44 Anyway. So the OTO, it stands for Ordo Templi Orientis. Right. But what does a wizard do with Tennessee? They make a religion. So America's lousy with religions that come out of Albany. The Mormis come out of there. The Seventh-day Adventists come out of there.
Starting point is 02:17:59 the Jehovah's come out of there. I mean, a bunch of them. Speaking of banging your wife, pull up a picture of Jack. Hold on, hold on. So what do you think, why do you think they're doing that? Why do you think they all come out of that one area? Do you think this is all engineered? Well, engineered by these kind of societies where that's the goal if you're in these kind
Starting point is 02:18:18 of groups, by the way, is control and enslavement of other people. They're like, the LeVay Church, by the way, that lies and says like, oh, they're atheists. Nah, they're about an LP, which is like pickup artist, Andrew Tate bullshit, like pimping. That's what pimping is, like a mind control, right? They're all about that. Wait a minute, neurolinguistic programming is pimping? Pimping is a form of NLP. It's a subset of it, I would say.
Starting point is 02:18:45 Okay, so it's mind control. That's right. Mind control, I know people feel like that's a weird term, but I mean, it's where you call propaganda, you call it advertising, you call it marketing. the Bernays School of Marketing. Well, clearly, people hypnotize people. Clearly, Manchurian candidates was something that really worked on.
Starting point is 02:19:03 That's right. And why do we need that? We need people that are killers and spies and seductresses that don't know they're doing it. Because if they're captured, they won't say nothing, right? Or at the very least, you can get them to do something that they would never agree to do ordinarily. And if they get captured, who gives a fuck, you got them to do the task.
Starting point is 02:19:20 Right. And we saw a bunch of those fake, dude, I don't believe... Suicide bombers. Sure. That's a great one The ultimate example It's an ultimate example Or how about all the fake
Starting point is 02:19:29 Crash dummies that went at Trump The one hit the white Dude I can't even count all the fake ones Wait a minute The one at the White House The guy that ran through naked That they tackled that Dana White was there And everybody got down
Starting point is 02:19:41 He wasn't naked That's the guy with the gun Yeah why was he in the picture I had no shirt on And so put it Lindsay Graham on top of him In a meme I think that guy was a school teacher He was like a crazy liberal school teacher
Starting point is 02:19:52 And he brought a gun But hold on a second If you believe a lone nut thing, I can't help you. But there are some lone nuts. Sure, but I don't know which ones they are. But of course, there's got to be. And the goal is, of course, to have remote, triggerable nuts. If you think of these social media things like your blue sky or your threads, what do you think?
Starting point is 02:20:11 You've got people of a like mindset. Don't point to me when you say threads. Why is you going to? Because I sent a link to threads and he thinks I don't go to them. I told you I won't read it. I know. That's why I pointed out. You were right to call me out because that's why I did it.
Starting point is 02:20:22 So you've got your group right there. Remember Cambridge Analytica? They made a big deal about that. Okay, in what way? Cambridge Analytica, when Brexit happened, I think Sebastian come a bunch played the guy. Hold that, Jamie, for a second. What they were studying is how do we get the message to the people
Starting point is 02:20:37 that they're going to respond to it and get them mobilized, right? That's Cambridge Analytica? Do you remember that? I don't remember what Cambridge Analytica was about. I've heard about it a million times. It was when Trump won and then Brexit happened. It was because online, people were mobilized by this. that was like seeing your likes.
Starting point is 02:20:54 The shit they use now to sell you a TV on your phone. They were using to affect that vote with Brexit. I mean, you remember this, right? Just put it up, I guess, in a refresher. But, so Cambridge Analytica is very famous.
Starting point is 02:21:05 There you go. So Facebook, Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a major 2018 data privacy crisis involving the British political consulting firm, Cambridge Analytical and social media giant Facebook. So what happened?
Starting point is 02:21:17 Data harvesting. Regular stuff now. The app used Facebook's API to collect data, only from the users who took the quiz, but also from millions of their Facebook friends without explicit consent. The data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles was improperly obtained and handed over to Cambridge Analytica.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Cambridge Analytica used psychographic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns, including Donald Trump's and Ted Cruz's 2016 U.S. presidential campaigns. Which is how you know it's from something in Tel Aviv probably. That is fun. We've progressed since then. You've heard of geo fencing, right? Sure. Okay, what's geofencing?
Starting point is 02:21:57 You know, they do stuff with your cell phones. So a lot of the churches, there's a big story that, like, I don't know if it was Masad or who it was, is geofencing the Christian churches to, like, there you go. A location-based technology that creates a virtual boundary or fence around a real world geographic area using GPS, Wi-Fi, cellular data, or RFID, when a mobile device or tagged asset enters leaves or dwells within this defined perimeter the system automatically triggers a pre-programmed action so they're using that the spy on churches here so exhausting but weren't they using it like algorithmically if like if you're in that area you're gonna start seeing shit on your phone they want you to
Starting point is 02:22:38 that's exactly right it's like right so that's like everywhere you look you're getting fucked it's so exhausted especially if your phone is what you're looking at here's what i don't get it's like it's so it seems not hard but if you have a principle like, hey, I think you're not allowed to starve kids to death because you think it's advantageous in a war. That seems reasonable. No, it seems fucked up, actually, if you ask around and you'd never be appointed anything.
Starting point is 02:23:01 And in fact, someone would hire a cutout to oppose you if you ever did try to run for anything. You're talking about Palestine? Cambridge Analytica resulted in a $5 billion fine to Meadow slash Facebook. Just this week, they got a $25 billion penalty from a New Mexico state court. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 02:23:17 Oh, that's because they were harvesting. So that's the values. Recently? Yeah, this was just this week. So this is why we need the AI data centers. Just this week. New Mexico State Court ordered MEDA to pay $25 billion after a jury found the company misled state residents about a Davis, about its data privacy practices. That's tied to data analytical, or Cambridge Analytica.
Starting point is 02:23:40 Wow. Look up Gideon. Okay, it's called Gideon. And it's, so remember when they said there was a Homeland Security or an ICE office in Tel Aviv? And I remember on Jimmy Showy cover him like, oh, what are they training them to like break their arms better or something? No. That's, it's like only legal to have a thing there. So remote neural monitoring, that's the thing.
Starting point is 02:24:02 Remember I showed you your mind reading headphones last time? It's creepy. You don't need headphones for that. Your whole body could be used as a circuit. Your phone can, I've never had my phone read my mind, but many people will tell you that's happened where they thought of something. That's because they just studied the patterns of your brain makes and they translate it. And the AI helps with that. So your phone could read your mind.
Starting point is 02:24:21 mind for real? Well, yeah, interpreting neural patterns. You understand? So they've, for a lot of people it would be accurate, probably not for everybody's my guess, but I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but what I do know is that Gideon thing in the AI centers, that's what they're going to be doing.
Starting point is 02:24:37 I think I'm going to get a flip phone. Dude, I think it's the move. I think it's the move. I think I'm going to get a flip phone and I'm going to use my regular phone just to like get online and check my email, but I'm going to put it away. And so if you've got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to have flock. You got nothing to hide.
Starting point is 02:24:53 Somebody actually said that once. I had a conversation with a guy that I actually kind of respected. He was talking about the NSA and the Edward Snowden shit. And he goes, if you don't have anything to hide, who gives a shit? I was like, what are you saying? How can you really say that? Well, we better fight against communism, I guess. Israeli startup aims to revolutionize security screening with AI-powered weapon scanner.
Starting point is 02:25:17 You got to look up Gideon. That's the one. That's how I got to it. Scanner he says it's radar-based. developed by a former radar engineer of Iron Dome can screen 25,000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums, transit hubs, and airports. Scan. Scanary.
Starting point is 02:25:32 How is it screening them? What is it screening them for? Circumcision probably. So, look, it knows that this guy has a gun on him and knows that guy has a knife on him? How does it know that? What else does it know? Have you been to a sporting event in like the last couple of years where you don't have to go through a metal detector anymore?
Starting point is 02:25:45 No. Oh, well, I have. Really? Yeah. Specifically in Columbus at a cruise stadium. There's like a group of people watching everyone walk through these scanners and they'll stop one person maybe out of like 30 or 40 to just double check something that maybe they got like a red like there might be seeing something like this. So you think as these people are walking there's some sort of technology that can scan your bag as you're walking? They're probably seeing through your clothes.
Starting point is 02:26:09 Yeah, so there was a I didn't this was not as good but it's, oh, I might not work. Wouldn't they just keep you from wearing a backpack? Well, this is the show that's for you to keep you safe, but it's not. It's to keep the powers that be safe from you. That's what the real purpose is, always. Okay, settle down. This video is showing just, I've seen this on other things online, how AI is being used to monitor different security feeds, if you will. You know, the cops.
Starting point is 02:26:38 It's like with flock cameras, I guess. Regular cops, by the way. Hang on, Kurt, let him talk. What? It's just like flock and other companies like flock. They can throw the AI system. on top of the security footage to start tracking things and just making notes, put them in databases, go back and check things over time.
Starting point is 02:26:53 Someone wants to check where you've been throughout the day they can go find you. Yeah, that creeps the fuck out of me. And that was one of the things about the flock cameras is so crazy when you found out how many different people had access to it. Terrible. Like how many cops are using it to like, they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date. There was like spying on their ex.
Starting point is 02:27:12 Stalking. Stalking ladies. Yeah. And then people that they had. And then people that they had like disagreements with like find them. They were doing, they had access to it where you're like, how does like a cop just log in and have access to this stuff? It should be like very difficult to get access for the average person. You should have a fucking need to look at that.
Starting point is 02:27:31 But now think of the merger of this tech and just basic advertising, right? So I'm flock monitoring everybody. And you're like in the area of my store, about to go in my competitor's store. I noticed that you go to my competitor store. What if I could start feeding your algorithm commercials for my store instead of my competitor store? Right. Then add to that state propaganda, the geo-fencing stuff, which is I've identified that you go to this place, the people at this place have this political ideology. What if we can start feeding you a real subtle series of things through meta that will shift your thinking or make you feel like the way you think is fucking insane?
Starting point is 02:28:14 You've seen Robert Epstein's work that he's done with Google searches, curated Google searches? No? Very interesting. We had them on Jimmy. Yeah, he's been on here a couple times. So what he's shown is that they use curated Google searches to completely shift your perception of a political campaign. So like, say if you were against like Talariko, you would look up James Tala Rico and you'd immediately be fed stories about him being able to name his favorite drag queen instantaneously. Him has. having 11-year-old drag queens on stage with them. It would do something that freak you out. Yeah. Or the opposite. If you Google Ken Paxson, immediately show you corruption, immediately show you lawsuits, immediately show you all these negative hit pieces written on them.
Starting point is 02:29:00 So when they do that, they can shift, like, noticeably. Like, what was the percentage? Like 30% of people that are in the middle on the fence? They could shift them one way or the other. So you make this with, sorry, Joe, I'm sorry. You makes this with Cambridge Analytica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:29:15 Oh, my God. That's so dystopian. There's will so many different ways to do this. The Cambridge Analytical way, the Google search way. So searches are curated, right? If you Google Donald Trump, you don't get just any story on Donald Trump. You would get the negative ones first. And then if you Google Hillary Clinton, you'd get Secretary of State, humanitarian, you know, Clinton Foundation, all the good stuff.
Starting point is 02:29:39 And the whole idea is to shift perceptions. And amongst people that are on the fence, which is a giant, percentage of the population that are not undecided. You can shift them, but like 30%, like a very high level of, and you can completely change an election one way or another that was like neck and neck. And that kind of tech should be illegal. Like, clearly that should be illegal. It's propaganda.
Starting point is 02:29:59 It's propaganda. It was made legal in 2015. That's the problem. With Obama, when they passed the Smith Month thing. Modernization Act, yeah. Yeah. What they did was they essentially legalize propaganda so that they could protect us. They just wanted to bring me.
Starting point is 02:30:14 They wanted to make sure that we could use the same sort of propaganda we use overseas on Americans. Oh, my God. Because we've got to protect people. Oh, my God. Duncan. It's so fucked out. It's so crazy. Like, there's so much manipulation.
Starting point is 02:30:27 And then also, just think about this conversation. Like, how many times Kurtz brought something on my bike? What? What is that? Yeah. Like, there's too many things you're getting fucked with. Right. Whether it's glyphosate or atrazine is making the frogs gay.
Starting point is 02:30:39 Whatever the fuck is happening, there's too much to keep track of. Right. There's too many things. Yeah. There's too many stories. There's the, what was the child? Franklin scandal. There's too many of these fucking stories where you're like, how many can I pay attention to?
Starting point is 02:30:53 Well, how much will you tolerate? I'm guessing they could do it to you forever. Well, who's they? The thing is like there's a bunch of different groups of people that are involved in a bunch of different types of manipulation and propaganda. There's a pyramid that goes up, of course. Since we have this CRISPR gene editing for quite some time longer than they've told you, I'll bet there's all kinds of Olympians at the top of the heap
Starting point is 02:31:17 Oh, where are we going with this? God's among us. Well, not among you, but I'm just saying you've got people with no oversight that can do whatever they want. Who is the guys that we control time and space when Trump got in? I'm just amazed that these guys had the courage to come out and say they fucked Lindsey Graham after he was dead.
Starting point is 02:31:33 Why would you do that? What's the good for them? Because there's those bumps on his fucking taint. Those guys are heroes. For fucking a great American hero? Yeah, well, for coming out bravely after his death. That's going to be a good sex worker. It is.
Starting point is 02:31:45 And for pleasuring one of the greatest. They could have done it while he was alive and that would have been wrong. Yeah. Or they just kept their mouth shut forever and we would have never known. Right. We would have never known that Lindsay Graham was a guest.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Ever. I would have never guessed. Never would have guessed. I never would have believed it. He's an upright man. I'm still incredulous. It's propaganda. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 02:32:04 I'm going to be honest. Imagine those brave characters they got together, all of them and said, you know what? Let's come out and let's say we fucked him. Yeah. People need to learn that. Republicans are gay
Starting point is 02:32:14 Because a lot of them Nobody would ever guess Republicans are gay I think there's a lot of like That's one of the big rumors About Washington It's just a lot of closeted gay Republicans
Starting point is 02:32:25 Remember when those dudes How do you know Except Pete Buttigieg For some reason That guy's faking it You think he's fake gay? I don't know Tucker said it on Jimmy's show One time
Starting point is 02:32:34 He said he's a fake gay He said that's the rumor on K Street And I What? Tucker just says shit sometimes I'm not I'm just gonna trust the science on this one because that's hilarious. Tucker says that nuclear bombs weren't created by people. Who created?
Starting point is 02:32:48 I don't know, but that's what he said. He said, I don't believe people made them. I'll never believe that, despite what they tell me. What? Who made him? He's talking. He's talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:57 He got attacked by a demon in his sleep. I don't doubt that. I've been attacked by demons in my sleep. Really? Sure. Wow. Do you matter of satanic shit? He actually got marks on him.
Starting point is 02:33:08 I know. I don't think I ever got a claw mark, but I'm definitely trying to fall asleep on acid you get attacked by demons. Tucker is very clever and I think he's almost like doing a very he's doing like a little subtle fiction occasionally like throws things in there for funzies Concent Journal. You think he doesn't believe in anything? A little bit. No no no no that's not what I'm saying at all. Because if you're Christian you believe in demons. I do not no no no no that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like there's some things that he says I'm like I don't know if you're like you don't think nuclear bombs are made by people like what? He's saying the
Starting point is 02:33:41 behind it they channeled something the way they got our rockets from jerking off in the desert and look at each other's eyes for some reason yeah jack was it wait a minute wait a minute what how do you not tell they jerked off and looked in each other's eyes i know jack i'm being glib but jack parsons was a satanist right like a legitimate yeah that's the father of our that and the nazis he wasn't he wasn't no he was a thalamite he was a he was a student of croly sex cult antich Satan just means an enemy of man oh i thought he was a was like a Satanist. No. Well, I mean, people lump in. That's the problem is people, like, are kind of illiterate when it comes to all the different, like,
Starting point is 02:34:19 sex crazed. He wasn't a Satanist. Duncan, what is sex crazed? That doesn't mean you're a Satanist. This means you just like to fuck? Yeah. You think about it a lot. My mama said Satanus is a Satanist.
Starting point is 02:34:31 Yeah. Like Cindy Sweeting, sell those sports out. Fuck, yeah. What are we sex crazed? She saw Mossad, honey trap bullshit. You know that? You saw that? Well, thank you, Massad.
Starting point is 02:34:40 Like all the actresses and actors. They're all fucking puppies as somebody. I thought they were all aliens or babies or something. Why do you think that? No one said that. What are we looking at, Jamie? Scientology is based on this cult parsons as a part of. That's right.
Starting point is 02:34:54 Oh, really? Eleanor Hubbard said he infiltrated a group of Satanus. He's talking about this guy. Oh, God. This is too much. This is like what we were talking about. I think you might be working for the government to overthrow us with information. Look at his outfit.
Starting point is 02:35:04 He's overwhelming us with this. You took his CIA vest off. How come? It was very hot. It was too hot. Hmm. Also, I thought Jamie could tell I was wearing a wire. And I was like, I'm fucking not doing it.
Starting point is 02:35:17 I look over, I see Jamie looking at me, and I got spooked. So you don't want to write a headphones? He doesn't want to wear the headphones here. No, they fall off because my hat. I mean, this is one of the things that I've said about you, like, from working with Jimmy. It's like you were normal, like, three, four years ago. And then, like, something happened to you with, like, the amount of fucking conspiracies you were confronted with? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:35:37 Just news. Again. Right. The toe-clash thing is my fun time. I don't want to say like, I don't mean like fake things. But I mean the disaster that is current events on a daily basis, the daily trauma. And then the true reality behind these current events is horrific. It's horrific.
Starting point is 02:35:51 And so once you see how bad it is and you see the kind of criminal organization that you're having this administered to you by, you have to be a fool. It's like, I don't think John, I don't think the mafia, actually the Italian mafia is better than these people by a lot. I mean, credit where credit is due. Nowhere near is vile. And the level of trafficking of humans and just your money and everything is they can never stop. The way Roblox can never stop letting petos on, because it'll ruin their fucking... The way they can't stop using glyphosate in your food supply. Otherwise, they can't get your food. Right.
Starting point is 02:36:22 That's what Epstein is. Do you have the poison your food or you got no food? Right. Epstein's a minor node in a thing that's way bigger than him, obviously. We were with Eric Weinstein at the U.T. He goes, do you think he was the main guy? I go, no. He goes, if it all ever came out, it would end.
Starting point is 02:36:37 The world. And I go right, oh, no. Weinstein said that? Yeah. He loves that kind of talk. He loves, him and his brother, they both love cloak and dagger talk. You see his brother's mentor's email. Speaking of Toeco Lach's, Dr. Trivers, you see his fucking weirdo emails to Epstein about
Starting point is 02:36:51 What? Who's that? Robert Trivers, the mentor of the better Weinstein. Yeah, Brett's mentor, yeah. What do you mean? So Robert Trivers, the email about how you can manipulate a kid to give him tits and a dick. Oh, yeah. By the way, it's Weinstein, not Weinstein.
Starting point is 02:37:08 Oh, whoops, I've been saying it wrong. Don't say it like Harvey. Fuck. Harvey Weinstein? He's a Stein. Is it better? Is it like that guy, Robert Reich? Remember Robert.
Starting point is 02:37:18 Robert Reich was better. Like Stephen Segal. It's not Stephen Segal. Get it. Got it. Sorry, I said it wrong. Emails revealed Epstein encouraged controversial scientists to study transgender biology. What fuck the thing did Epstein not do?
Starting point is 02:37:34 But they're all. To transhumanism. The transgender thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism. That's why it doesn't make any sense where they're like, we want to eliminate categories. But if I'm like, I feel like a woman and you eliminate the category of woman, what are you just making me into nothing? Like that's what? Transhumanism is the goal, not transgender. That's a little stepping stone from the transhumanist movement.
Starting point is 02:37:56 But what about autogonophilia? Well, what about it? What's wrong with that? Well, that's what a lot of transgenderism is. Sure. But the pushing of it by oligarchs, which is what that was. There wasn't a thing that was that common, but they push it. That email's about that.
Starting point is 02:38:14 So the email's about oligarchs pushing transgender ideology. No, that's even grosser. That email. I think it's bigger than that. I think it's like, you know, think of like Kurzweil's idea of nanobots disassembling and reassembling our bodies. So Nicholas located in an email which Trivers thanked Epstein for extra money. an appointment as an advisor to your foundation. Epstein responded,
Starting point is 02:38:39 I want to see you, you, I guess your, peace on transgender in the bio world. Two months later, Trivers responded and said he was getting to the end of transsexuality. The second paragraph is the one.
Starting point is 02:38:55 So, Trivers, continued to make dehumanizing comments about trans women, including if you as a heterosexual male and have, a minor desire to suck a dick than what better organism to do it with than a transsexual. How is that dehumanizing?
Starting point is 02:39:13 To call them an organism? It says she will smell like a woman, be softer and more hairless like a woman, and may to some degree actually resemble one morphologically, leaving the dick for you to enjoy in a feminine setting. How is that dehumanizing? What a nerd. Because it's the organism. What better organism?
Starting point is 02:39:33 That's right. But also, whoever wrote this is not really getting to the heart of it. Also, this is private emails. Like, how's that dehumanize? It says it again. It says, Trivers and Epstein once again corresponded about trans people in dehumanizing ways. Is this like trans times weekly that this is in? Yeah, this is from them.
Starting point is 02:39:52 Okay, what is that? Why are you putting my phone out? Jesus Christ. Why are you sending us here? Well, I was trying to put it. But this all this dehumanizing chitter chatter, like, shut here. Calling someone in organism is not to eat. humanizing. It's just this, like, bullshit
Starting point is 02:40:06 talk. We are organizations. I'm not gay, they're gay. I just want them to be softer and have a dick to suck. That's normal. Scientific, really. That's our kids talk in college. Scientific. Why don't we just shut down science? I'm just shut down science. If you want to get in with the right people in college, you have to talk like that. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to suck that woman dick.
Starting point is 02:40:24 What's wrong with that? What's wrong with a little Bridget McCrone? That one, like, where's that lawsuit? Like, they keep saying they're going to sue Candace. Yeah. I think she's going to sue Candace. one. You know she has a dick. Take it, like go do it live.
Starting point is 02:40:39 Who cares if she has a dick? How are you, Lady Gaga? What difference does it make? Well, because it's a different thing between a 40-year-old woman, fucking a 14-year-old boy. That's fucked up. And a 40-year-old man fucking a 14-year-old boy. Especially if it's his dad secretly. What?
Starting point is 02:40:53 It might be his dad. It might be his dad? McCrone's dad? Wait, what? What? Well, I don't know that it is for sure, but... Who said this one? Is this a Candace one?
Starting point is 02:41:01 Or is it somebody else's thoughts? Well, no. Candace was taking some. stuff from French report, and she says that when she was reported. That it might be his own father. Yeah. I don't want to get you in trouble by bringing up the good billionaires, the Rothschilds who have not done anything wrong, and I only
Starting point is 02:41:16 hate Peter Thiel. I would never talk about the Soros boy or the Rothschilds or anybody else that could be construed. I make that clear. Good. What does this have to do with McCrone's dick? Because they're related. He's like a Rothschild banking guy. You've seen him sit down? Her? Sit down?
Starting point is 02:41:32 No. The way she sits down, like a dude. It looks like David Spade's in there. Like there's no way. Could be. Guys don't sit that way. Could be. But I do think the pedophilia part gets left out. Right.
Starting point is 02:41:43 Like it's somehow... The pedophilia part is very different. So like pedophilia for like a 40 year old woman and a 14 year old boy. Fucked up. It's a little fucked up. But whatever. I thought that's the fibophilia. But the difference between that and a 40 year old man, a 40 year old man and a 14
Starting point is 02:41:58 old boy freaks people out. Right. Right. Like when you hear about a school teacher that fuck some quarterback Like, who cares? Remember the Gallifinaccus joke? Yeah, yeah. You guys, but he's high-fived him to death.
Starting point is 02:42:10 Great joke. I know somebody that happened with. Oh, I bet you do. Yeah. Is his name Kurt Metzker? Maybe. No. No.
Starting point is 02:42:22 But you know what I'm saying? Like if a teacher is having sex with her quarterback, you know, probably we're going to break the kid's heart, fuck his head up. What class is this? But he's going to be fine. But if you find out that, like, the football, coach is fucking one of the 15-year-old cheerleaders. You want them in a cage.
Starting point is 02:42:38 It's a different feeling, right? It's a different feeling. The 45-year-old football coach is banging a 15-year-old cheerleader. Like, string them up. All right, look, I'm not, I'm sorry. It's going to seem like I'm trying to go woke here, but I remember doing some fucking joke on stage about this subject, right? Talking about the difference and whatever.
Starting point is 02:42:57 Edge-lording. It's a long time ago. Stupid joke. It wasn't funny at all, but this dude comes up to me after the show. And he's like, I got. when I was a kid, when I was like, like 12 or something, I got fucked by an adult woman. And he's like, and it fucked me up. And I'm still fucked up.
Starting point is 02:43:12 Like it actually. Well, I know people that have fucked them up because it's so very. It fucks you up. It's too much. No, no, no. It definitely fucks you. And like, and though I don't doubt. Like, let me tell you, when I was 14, that I would, that would be like God coming into my life to give me a hot teacher to fuck.
Starting point is 02:43:29 So I get what you're, you know what I mean? Like, I was licking. Got it, me. I would have been fucked out. I was licking hustler pages, you know? I was like, so horny. But I think... You're not hot for teacher?
Starting point is 02:43:39 Yeah, yeah. But I think it wrecks some people. It wrecks people. Oh, yeah. No doubt. If that happened to me, I would be messed up from it. Because I was a church kid, very innocent. And so, you know, I mean, there was dudes in my school that had like moustaches and families working on it.
Starting point is 02:43:53 But, like, I wasn't that. So, I think it's very individual. It certainly is not ideal. There's a law for a reason. Yeah. I don't give it. Now when people go, oh, she's only 19 and that guy is however old, I don't give a shit. Like, think about that lady that fucked her student or the young boy and then it was a young guy.
Starting point is 02:44:13 Yeah. And then she went to jail and then when they got him out, like they had a family together. Yeah. And they became the leaders of France. No, I'm joking. Same story, a different outcome. Yeah. It's not always, it's, I mean, it's not ideal.
Starting point is 02:44:26 I mean, I would be pissed. I mean, imagine if you heard that happened to your kid, you know? Yeah. You know, it's fucked up. It's like there's just too much power. to manipulate some poor teen you know of course it's fucked up especially with those big juicy tits oh god I would have loved it though yeah what's her name again that's right Mary Kayla Turner they made a beautiful they made a beautiful
Starting point is 02:44:47 family says they got separated this is like 10 years ago yeah they separated 21 years the good one eventually grew up and realized oh my god she was fucking crazy yeah well she banged me when I was 14 yeah I mean or maybe she he just got too old for boys I gotta pee let's All right, let's wrap it up. Mystery Boys is an awesome podcast. You guys are great together. Thank you, Ben.
Starting point is 02:45:08 Legitimately, like, it's so glad you guys decided to do it. I knew it was going to be huge from the beginning. I was like, this is going to click. Thanks, Joe. Thanks, man. Good luck with your fake dick. I know. I feel, now that I know there's a real one.
Starting point is 02:45:20 We'll swap and we won't tell anybody. I'll give you a real one on the way out. Oh, I just want to feel the heft of it. Wow. That's a gift. Just because I love you. Oh, my God. Take the real baccule.
Starting point is 02:45:29 I'm going to give you the real walrus dick. And you can leave the fake one. and no one will know. Jenna doesn't want me to have it. She doesn't want you to have the fake one. I just like to position her as being against me having a walrus dick in my body. All right.
Starting point is 02:45:44 You're the best job. And your show one more time? Tell everybody the YouTube thing. The experts on YouTube right now is pretty funny, man. I'm telling you. Miss your boys. Look at that. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:45:51 Yeah. We got to make our based hoe shop shirts. Yes, we do. Based hoe? You know, like, Bass Pro Shop? Oh. This is based ho shop. And I have a female oreness.
Starting point is 02:46:03 It looks great. Instead of a bass. It's that oiness with the fish body from the Atlantic, you know, being on you. It's a chick. When does this come out? Tomorrow. Oh, can I plug a show? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:14 I'm going to be at Mike Drop Comedy in Detroit tomorrow. Is that the same as Mike Drop in San Diego? Is the same company? I think so. I'm not positive about that, though. Friday, Saturday and Sunday. So. This Friday, Saturday and Sunday?
Starting point is 02:46:26 Yeah, tomorrow. I'm going to be there tomorrow. There it is. Thanks, ma'am. Detroit House of Comedy, it says. That's great. Weird. You don't even know where the fuck you're going.
Starting point is 02:46:35 It's Mike Drop Comedy. I don't know why I say that. That's what it is. Mike Drop comedy. Oh, okay. That's what I'm going to be. All right. Bye, everybody.
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