The Joe Rogan Experience - #296 - Mix Master Mike, Russell Peters, Mark Rasta

Episode Date: December 12, 2012

Joe sits down with Mix Master Mike, Russell Peters, and Mark Rasta.

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. We're back here at the Ice House in Death Squad Studios where we have awesome internet and shit electricity. Dangerous electrocution style 1940s electricity. Ustream shit the bed today for some reason. I'm using an old version of Ustream so hopefully it's working. Oh really? Oh that's funny what happened i don't know every time i launch ustream it just crashes so i'm using an old version that's not doing that mix master mike yes welcome aboard sir thank you very much for coming down to the podcast we really appreciate it yeah i'm stoked and when we talked about it when russell peters found out about it russell pet Peters being the true music aficionado,

true DJ that he is, really had to come down here and join us. I did. I was very geeked about it. Red Band mentioned it last week, and I was like, I have to be there when Mix Master Mike is there. And your friend, sir? Introduce yourself to those people.

My name is Mark. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Mark, what do you do, Mark? Mix Master Mike and I work together. I book him for shows. I'm actually from Vancouver, so we fly down here for this. Have you ever been on a podcast before?

First time. Keep it together, okay? Keep it together. Don't shit the bed. Let's not get crazy. So thanks for doing this, man. Of course, man. What is this, your app you have for your iPad?

You have a Mixmaster Mike app? Yes, Mixmaster Mike. It's called Wheels of Steel, W-H-E-E-L-Z. So those that want to tap it in, it's two turntables and a mixer on your iPad. So you can take it, you know, sometimes you don't have access to real turntables and mixers and stuff. And you got maybe 50 people over and they want to dance. Break open your iPad, get the little mini adapter, plug it into the stereo, and set it off.

So you could do a whole party off your iPad? Yeah, it actually reads your iTunes libraries. Holy shit. Yeah, and you could do some crazy shit with it. So the power of these things now is sort of caught up with what you're capable of doing with regular DJ equipment? Not quite. Not quite.

But close? But this should pacify the DJ for the moment until they get to the real thing. But you can actually DJ with it. It's crazy. Now, is there like lessons? Is there a tutorial or anything where someone learns how to DJ like that? Or someone learns how to mix? Well, there's little easy pathways on here.

Like there's like little scratches that I did on here where you just hit one button. And there's like four different scratches. There's like the scribble, the laser, the baby, and the drag. So I'll go down it. And this is a scribble. And this is a laser. And this is go down it and this is a scribble and this laser there's a baby and there's a drag and so stabs on there so that's how those are the sounds yeah stabs would be good yeah yeah do you show people how to do that or you um just by pressing those buttons it makes those those noises. Yeah, you figure it out on your own type thing. How did you learn?

For me, I mean, this was back in 87, and I watched, well, I was around a lot of music. My uncle had an extensive record collection, and he used to play Jimi Hendrix to me all the time. Jimi Hendrix, P-Funk, what was that? But Jimi Hendrix, I i was like whoa i i want to play the turntable like that and so i you know got a turntable and i'm just basically mimicking my heroes wow that's uh you know what you what really fascinates me about djs about the art of djing

is that this is something that never existed just 50 years ago, whatever it was. This is something that really sort of manifested in our lifetimes. And we saw guys like, I still am out of it. I don't understand the electronic music world and DJ world. It's really kind of shocking to me when I see this Tiesto guy. Horrible. I had no idea.

We talked about this before. Fucking hate him. Fucking hate him. They just bounded knuckles. Oh, no. You know what? As DJs, like Mixmaster Mike and all these other guys, they aren't really allowed to say these things. Right, right, right.

Like, they all come to me and they're like. Oh, I'll say it right now. Oh, good. Fuck. Good. I'm just kidding. Let them know, Mike. No, no.

I mean, I met Tiesto. He's a cool dude. I'm sure he's a great guy. But whatever. My point was like, all this didn't exist before. I didn't know that this guy was so enormous. And I was in Vegas, and there was something at a casino. And this dude that I know, who's this super billionaire character.

He owns businesses. He's always front row at the UFC. He's friends with the owners. Real character. But he's telling me how they're going to see tiesto and he's performing in front of 50 000 people i go who the fuck is tiesto he's like are you kidding me you don't know who tiesto is this guy's like on the party scene the international club scene you know i mean so he tells me about this is dj guy and internationally he's like whatever he is man internationally this guy's fucking gigantic and he's doing these like, 100,000 people a year.

He's making $20 million a year. Was it $20 or $30 million a year? Yeah, something like that. For pressing play. All of that shit. Okay, I'm not comparing that to being a DJ, but all of this electronically created stuff, this didn't exist before.

None of it exists before. No. It's amazing. It started off the right way. What do you mean by the right way? Well, it started off with the house and then it just we were the right way well it started off in uh you know with the house music which came out of disco and then the djs would um they would just play records and mix it back in the day like in the 80s i mean i remember i remember buying

house records as early as 86 85 80 well 86 wow and you know and we would mix them yeah right there and now they just and then there was djs i would go see like roger s and bad boy bill and all these guys and i they were always so hyped to me that when i'd go see them i'd be bored out of my fucking tree and i was like why am i so bored they're not doing anything they were just they would press their own records so they would have shit that you wouldn't have and then uh they would just play them and they'd mix them but they were so boring because they didn't do anything and i was like and i was already into djing then and i was like sitting there what do you mean by they don't do anything you mean like they would just mix the records but they would mix them i mean which i i

appreciate them at least mixing the vinyl live in front of me but right but they would play songs you didn't know and they wouldn't play anything that was intricate or fucking cool. You'd be like, well, these are just songs you made, huh? So it was their own shit. A lot of the times they'd play their own shit. Do you dislike all electronic music? Is that why you say that it started off good? No, I like electronic music.

Not a lot of it, but I mean, the good shit that's out there is good shit. So when you say, though, that it started off good, but now it's not, what's wrong with it? I meant the DJing started off the right way with the right intent so the djing went from that to creating your own noises and music like the which is fine which is fine but these guys are getting paid to quote unquote dj and they just it's the literally the equivalent to somebody paying money to see you joe and you go on stage and you put on a video of yourself and you point at it. That's a pretty good idea. Exactly.

I think I'm going to do that from now on. That's the way to do it, man. Fuck all the pressure of fucking live performing, man. Yeah, it's just like literally like, hey, see what I did there? That's kind of a funny way of looking at it. The pressure of live performing is the thing that fucks with people. One of the other points is that just the equipment that the DJs use. So the house DJs use what are called CDJs.

So they actually put CDs into. Now, wait. Nowadays, they don't even because the new CDJs have a USB plug. And they show up with two jump drives, pop it in, and then that's it. So then they just press play. Literally. That's right. And that's the whole show.

And stand and fist pump and foot tap. And they literally fucking congratulate themselves the whole set. There'll be two of them. One of them's like, oh, my God, he's not doing anything, but he's pointing at him. Like he's doing something. I'm really good at that. I could do that. I could fist pump the shit out of a show.

But the music is a reflection of the audience too as you look at it. And it's suspect because they'll throw some, I don't know. I ain't got nothing against homos or anything like that. What? No, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Some of the music can be. Just that statement alone will be a meme Till the end of time

Some of that music is kind of Kind of in that direction Kind of ecstasy driven I think More than gang And now you know where Tiesto's fan club comes from It's like a bunch of those people Nothing against me gang He's not even in with those people

Those people have more sense than the Masses that listen to Tiesto, I would say. I didn't want to come off like crazy. I know a lot of people that like that guy. Hey, I'll get you out of this hole. Don't worry. But you understand. Did you meet those guys at a bathhouse show?

No. I met him at the UFC, actually. I know guys that like that guy. You know, guys that like that guy. Yeah. I don't know his music, to be honest with you. It's not music. I've only heard one thing on the internet.

I was like, okay. It's just not my shit. We live in a world of sheep nowadays, and nobody has the common sense to try and figure out what's good. Is that it, or is it just different tastes? No, it's global, this thing. And nobody can really tell me that that shit is really good. It's just what's hot. And this is what we should like.

They're just fucking sheep. Like back in the day, you would have to search out what you wanted to like. Do you think that's the case with all this electronic music? Well, a lot of it. People try to be different or whatever. And then they're failing at it. Yeah, I got to very respectfully disagree. I've produced shows for Armin van Buuren, who's actually the number one DJ in the world over Tiesto.

What? A guy who's bigger than Tiesto? Is he a press play, though? Yeah, absolutely, he's a press play. But I remember when he used to DJ. Yeah, yeah. That was Armin Van Helden. Oh, okay.

Van Helden used to DJ, right? There's a Van Helden. There's another one. What's the other guy's name? Van Buren. That's ridiculous. You can't be Van Helden if the other guy's Van Buren. Well, they're Europeans.

But the argument is that these guys actually produce their own music. is that these guys actually produce their own music you know so for example like we when i work with mike he brings he scratches in his own mixes using vinyl and using cameras on my hands yeah which are important just so they could watch yeah what's going on he has sets where he just creates music like where's it on your hands um it's sometimes was with the B-Boys, I had a finger cam. You mean like, oh, really? I had a finger cam and I had spotlights. So, you know, just on the turntables. My DJ's at my show too. We have cameras right on the turntables.

So people see that it is a live performance art. Yeah, exactly. That you're painting a picture. You're really painting an audio picture. Yeah, and you're doing it right in front of them. them exactly and if he wants to change his mind as to what song he's playing he can do that yeah do you how much of your set list is improvised and how much of your i mean you're you're completely in control a lot a lot of it's improvised yes that's something a lot of it you just don't get from one of those those other guys it's programmed and it's programmed

to to coincide with the music so really all they're paying money for is a light and laser show so the person who should be making the money is the fucking lighting guy exactly yeah isn't it funny though that like with every generation the generation uh of today gets shit on by the previous generation i mean just the fact that you're into like old school djan okay just stop and think of that because like in the 80s and the 70s when when you know when rock was king and when like the allman brothers and people were in a leonard skidder and shit like that and then the 80s came along and djing came along people like look at this fucking new ridiculous shit that's not music exactly and you're like listen this new shit where they just press play that's. Exactly. And you're like, listen to this new shit

where they just press play. That's not fucking music. What, you're not playing records? It's like every generation gets shit on by the previous generation. It's just true. Exactly. I mean, it's the evolution of man.

It's funny, though. Like, we're the old guys shitting on the new breed. Exactly. See, like, I can understand. I'll take it back to before it got digital. And the house DJs, like all those other guys,

Paul Van Dyke and fucking all those guys out of England. I never liked the shit they played, but at least they played it. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. It's not about what they're playing. It's about the fact that people are paying money for these people to not do anything.

But isn't there an art to creating that shit? There most certainly is, right? No, there's a lighting guy who's, there's honestly a choreographer to their sets who says, here's what I'm going to do for you. Right, but the music itself? It has nothing to do with the music. Because the music all sounds exactly the same,

so it doesn't really matter. Exactly. So, well, most of them are. So it doesn't really matter. Exactly. So most of them are producers that want to be DJs. Oh, really? They figure, okay, we're making the music, so why don't we try to learn how to DJ? And it just doesn't... Huh. Yeah, people don't understand.

But when someone creates dope electronic music, when there's one beat that you hear that's really cool, that is a creation. Yeah, absolutely. That's made music. It is. Yeah, I mean, so that's really cool, that is a creation. Yeah, absolutely. That's made music. So that is like someone created that. That's not the problem. The problem is passing yourself off

as a DJ and you're not DJing. So if they call themselves electronic musicians, let's call them that. Right, if they're standing there playing the music in front of you, I'm impressed. But that's the thing. You can't do that with that stuff so what what could they do if they're going to do a live show say hey i'm going to just put my shit

on i'll be back later to say thanks and good night here you go just press it and walk off why would they what are they going to do when they're on stage i mean they kind of have to do this and like yeah they're pumping shit awful they've created it all before so it's this weird this and like fist pumping shit. They've created it all before. So it's this weird sort of hybrid of performance art and pre-planned out. They're standing there with just doing this

and making fucking hearts. It's like Harrison Ford being in front of the screen in an Indiana Jones movie like flexing every time Indiana Jones kicks some ass. Joe, did you ever see this video of Mike? This is kind of to give an example of how he does it compared to like electronic music. We don't see it. We don't see nothing. Was that respect? Yeah. Let's see.

This is a long ass song. For the thousands in attendance and the millions watching around the world, from the site where legends are made, ladies and gentlemen, here we go! Let's get ready to rumble! Don't stop, giddy, giddy! Let's tear it up. Don't stop getting giddy. That's my favorite move because it looks like you're doing a lot, but you're really just one beat behind. But you're going to look like you're doing all kinds of shit there the folks at home what move is that what is it hey well he was juggling he was juggling right there he's uh he was always good at juggling that was his i think that was your strongest point right

what is juggling would you say that was your favorite thing to do what is what is explain juggling going back and forth with the same record And making a beat with it And making my own beat And kind of remixing it And you What was the competition that you won Like a bunch of years in a row And they wouldn't let you enter anymore? DMC Yeah, it was the DMC

What's the DMC? Well, first I won the The New Music Seminar In New York Battle for World Supremacy In 92 Dude, the Battle for World Supremacy? Yeah

This was like the biggest battle in hip-hop Like this is where you battled The cream of the crop Who did you battle at here this was like the biggest battle in hip hop like this is where you battled the cream of the crop who did you battle at here I battled

Rock Raider I battled DJ Honda from Japan and how do you guys battle how does that work it's five minutes

to you five minutes for me and then the audience decides yeah the audience decides do you base it

on how loud the cheers are well also how intricate the routine was how do they judge like how, the audience decides. Do you base it on how loud the cheers are? Well, also how intricate the routine was. I mean, how do they judge? How does the audience judge? Well, the judges judge. Oh, the judges judge.

Oh, okay. Okay. I'm saying, is it because the audience cheers the loudest for you? No, no, no. It's actually about skill. I fucking hate judges. That was the last year of the seminar, wasn't it? Yeah, it was the last year.

And then we were just up there, and I'm just clowning and facial and kind of flipping off and the whole thing, people like that. So you won how many years in a row? Three. And then they said you're done? Yeah, and then DMC decided to make us judges. Oh, really? Yeah, we were ready to defend for the fourth year. Was that Rocksteady DJs, or was that just you?

It was just me and Qbert. Why did they decide to make you? It seems like that would be kind of cool to have a story of the Lance Armstrong of DJing that just fucking keeps dominating. No, because then there's guys like Mike and Qbert that create sounds that other DJs go, fuck, all right, I'm going to try that. And then they've created, between you and Qbert, you guys created fucking crabbing and flaring.

Crabbing and flaring. You're saying a lot of shit that no one knows what you're saying. Yeah, but these moves didn't exist before these guys. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, while practicing, we would name names on the different scratch techniques. And so we came up with like 100 scratches. Wow. See, that's crazy.

And we named them all with the orbit, the crab, the infamous tweak scratch I did for the Beastie Boys. And it's just like a log of things that you memorize. And what is it like when you're scratching? What is it based on? Is it based on the sounds that are actually on the record? Like do you know like different records are producing different sounds? So you know like where to scratch it and you have to like it's a different kind of needle too, right? Yeah, yeah.

It's the M44-7. I mean, there's different sounds. Do you like the 44s? I do love the 44s. Are these needles that are designed just for scratch? Well, they are. Well, again, his crew. Are you a scratch pickle?

Yes. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you a scratch pickle? They're trolling us, Brian. We have to stand up for ourselves now. Fuck this, man. His crew. You ain't getting me that easy, son.

I'm not going down without a fight. He's part of the ISP. The fucking scratch pickle. The invisible scratch pickle. Who the fuck do you think I am? Touch the scratch pickle, Joe. Touch it. So did you guys come back and act as judges?

We did, yeah. We did a final performance and went on our way. That's how they should do it with MMA. Have champions become judges. I bet you'd get a much better reading on who actually won fights than you do the way it's set up now. The way it's set up now, there's some people that are judges. It's just mind-boggling.

Yeah. Is it the same way in DJing? Yeah. Oh, definitely. Same way in comedy competitions too, man. Those are awful. God, those are disgusting. Always bad. Ugh disgusting It's so subjective

I've seen comedy competitions Where the guy who won You just stand back and go What the fuck are they saying Because it's art at that point And art is so subjective Who knows what the fuck the judge was into Most of the time judges are failed comics or whatever.

Yeah, failed martial artists. Exactly. There's a lot of that. They take bitterness into it, right? Yeah. And there's some that aren't. Some that are great. Some that are legit.

Some that are, you know, especially in MMA, there's some great judges. There's no doubt about it. It's just a few standouts that really suck. I always have names that pop into mind when it comes to bad boxing judges, you know? Yeah. You hear their name at the beginning. You're like,

ah, fuck, not that person. I'll be Shirley. Oh, you mother. I'll be Shirley. Patricia German.

Oh Jesus. Not again. Yeah. Yeah. Did you, that the Pacquiao fight, we were talking about this off camera before we started, man,

that was one of the worst knockouts ever for like an all-time great. Yeah, that was devastating. That reminded me of when Hearns knocked out Duran. Remember how he fucking iced him in the second round? Yeah, but he staggered him before that and then put him away with one punch and face-planted him. But this was like one-shot doom.

And he had knocked him down with the same punch like early in the round punch early in the round. Or early in the fight. That's something Freddie should have said. Keep your hands up. He didn't look the same. You can't be... What is he, a congressman or something in the Philippines?

Congressman, born again Christian. Full time gig as a congressman. There's too many things happening. But I don't think that was the factor. Here's what I analyze the fight as. He tells me shit. He just showed us a picture

of Freddie Roach. Forgetting that we're actually on a radio show. No, exactly. What does he say? Manny's going bananas? Of course he's going bananas. Of course he's going bananas. Manny looks physically different, too.

He didn't look as muscular. Here's what I think happened, Joe, and this is just me. I, when you're fighting, you hear the 10-second bell. And so I heard the 10-second bell, and I know they heard the 10-second bell. Right. And he got knocked out with one second left in that round. Right. He was standing near his corner i honestly think he was getting him to that corner and then he had counted it in his head and figured he would just walk around marquez and walk to his

corner and he kind of just walked right into a fucking right hand uh he got a little careless he i i think he miscounted and b i think he got a little reckless. Yeah, he got reckless. He missed a punch. I mean, he was coming forward when Marquez landed. Marquez landed perfect, too. That was like one of the best right hands ever. Ever, yeah. That's like, you can look at that.

That's so textbook. The way Manny's head snapped back. And, you know, to have a guy that's that good get knocked completely unconscious really puts boxing into light for us. Because we never saw that with a lot of guys we never saw that even with tyson he never really got knocked unconscious he got beat up and then beat down yeah even the buster douglas knockout which was like i don't know how many times like six punches clean yeah and it was hitting him on his way down too yeah yeah and tyson still was conscious you Still. That guy's chin was insanity.

Yeah. But to see, like, an all-time great get flatlined, that's when, like, Roy Jones against Glenn Johnson. Oh, that was horrible. That was the first time he got knocked out. It was the second time. Oh, yeah, Tarver knocked him out first, and then Johnson. When Tarver knocked out Roy Jones, yeah, it was nuts.

Well, you know where Roy fucked up? Where Roy fucked up is where he went all the way up to heavyweight, and then he tried to drop the weight and go all the way down to light heavyweight. Because your body does not want to adjust like that. He got big. When he fought John Ruiz, he was a good, solid 205, 206. He was somewhere around there and really muscular and moving great and just looking beautiful when he was boxing.

He boxed the shit out of John Ruiz. He won a heavyweight title. Yeah. And then when he dropped back down to light heavyweight, he was getting fucked up, man. His body was just beaten up. Yeah. That weight cut was brutal.

And when Tarver knocked him out, that was the beginning of the end of his confidence, the beginning of the end of his... Of his rap career? Yeah. Yeah, y'all must have forgot. I tried to. Y'all must have forgot, because I did. Yeah. Y'all must have forgot. I tried to. Y'all must have forgot because I did.

Yeah. Y'all must have forgot. Body had records. Because I was unconscious. His rapping wasn't bad in that one song. It wasn't bad. It just wasn't good enough. You know what I loved?

When he walked into the ring and was rapping. That was awesome. It was good TV. Dude, there was a period of a few years when Roy was on top where there was no one that could touch him. Nobody. You couldn't even touch him. I mean, it wasn't that. Literally couldn't touch him.

Vinny Pazienza and him fought. It was the only round ever in CompuBucks history. Where Pazienza never touched him. Not even once. Didn't land one punch. Not a grazing hook to the body. Nothing. Nothing.

Couldn't touch him. Couldn't get close yeah that's he was incredible when he knocked out virgil hill with a body shot yep just stepped in left hook to the liver blasted him to the body yeah he was unbelievable he was unbelievable but there's not you know that that can only go on for so long that's extreme athleticism and he's a defensive defensive fighter like Floyd is. Yeah. Can you imagine them two squaring off?

I don't think there'd be any hits. Well, you know what it is? For the longest time, Roy was fighting real smart and real scared. And a lot of it was because of Gerald McClellan. When Gerald McClellan got knocked out by Nigel Benn in London, that was an ugly, crazy fight. And Gerald McClellan never recovered. He had bleeding in the brain.

He's still basically, you know, he's in a wheelchair now. Yeah, he's fucked up. He's blind. Wow. That guy, Gerald McLellan, when I was a kid, was the man. He was the scariest guy in, I think, it was one, he was trying to make 160. I believe

McLellan, I might be wrong. It was a middleweight fightan it was a middleweight fight it was a middleweight because nigel van was a middleweight but really he should have been fighting light heavyweight the kid was enormous and he was cutting a lot of weight and they didn't understand weight cutting back then the way they do now and here's one of the things they do know is back in the day they also used to have the day in of the fight weigh-ins yes you're right i think that was then was that then it was a post duck who came it was i think it was, you're right. I think that was then. Was that then? Was it post-Ducku Kim? I think it was after McClellan even. I think it was like mid to late 90s

where they started the day before weigh-ins. Not only that, I don't think they were doing IVs either back then. No. They weren't replenishing themselves with IVs. So what they found out is that all the people that have had brain damage from boxing, all of them, it comes from the lighter weight classes. Not brain damage, but deaths, where the brain hemorrhage when they die inside the ring.

They found out that that's all in the lighter weight classes. It doesn't really happen with the heavyweights. The reason is that most heavyweights, they don't have to lose any weight. There's no weight limit. There's no weight limit. And their hands are a lot heavier. You're more likely to get knocked out rather than beat up. Right, right, right.

And that's what people don't understand. It's like it's not even the big concussions. It's the continual blows. Thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump. The ones that just kind of jar your head a little bit. Yeah. That's why soccer players get brain damage. Yeah.

That's kind of crazy that a fucking soccer ball can give you brain damage. You got that thing flying at you. I know, but how weak are our brains? Our brains suck. Soccer ball can jack you? Really? Fucking soccer ball? Seems like you should hit a soccer ball with your head.

They need to make him out of Nerf. You got to think twice before you headbutt somebody. You can only get so many of those in your fucking chamber. They're banking on their forehead on that one. Yeah, how many headbutts do you have before you start forgetting second grade? You only have a couple. Well, they always say if you're going to get hit in the face, try to get hit in the forehead. At least you have a plate blocking your brain.

Yeah, it's nice and thick. It's a good spot. If you can aim that spot right for somebody's nose. That's what Tyson used to do. He would eat a jab on the forehead to get inside. Yeah. He would wobble his way in and then, bam, take one on the forehead. He would take one to give two.

Well, his style was so unique, too, because he was so short for a heavyweight. He's under six feet, which is so rare to have arguably the greatest, if not one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. And he's only like 5'11 or 5'10 and a half. And he would crouch low. And so they had this big disadvantage of trying to punch down at this guy. Especially when he's fighting with Gonorrhea.

Yeah, when did he fight with Gonorrhea? When he fought Berbick for the title. 1986. Yes, Gonorrhea! He was burning. What's the matter? Are you burning? That is so funny. And what did he do to Berbick?

Oh, man. Fucked him up. Second round. He became the youngest heavyweight champion ever. That's right. There's physical freaks that, along with, like, discipline. Like, when you get a physical freak like Tyson, he was unquestionably a physical freak. But you get a physical freak like him, and then discipline and focus as well.

The young days of Tyson, you can only keep that shit up for a certain amount of time, like the amount of RPMs that guy was spinning at. But if you go back to the young days of Tyson, god damn what a scary animal that was to have a guy that was not just a physical freak, but was also single-minded, completely focused, monastic in his lifestyle, dedicated to being a champion. It's just too hard to keep that shit up. You lose focus after you get it.

Yeah. Because you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor. Of course. You're talking with Cus D'Amato. Yeah, with Cus D'Amato. Even with Kevin Rooney, he was doing well. For a little bit, but I don't think he ever respected Rooney the way he respected Cus. I don't think he respected Rooney.

Rooney was like a connection to Cus, but it wasn't the same guy. I wonder what would happen if he had ever got Teddy Atlas back in his corner. Teddy and him didn't get along. It probably would have been terrible. Teddy pulled a gun on him. Yeah, because Mike pushed up on his niece or something. Yeah, something bad.

Yeah, it got pretty crazy. Yeah, that was fucked up. Yes, I don't think they'd be working together. No. The guy pulls a gun on you and you almost... No. So what do you guys figure?

Pacquiao, Marquez, five or what? No, I think he's done. I think he's done. I don't know if... I think he retires from boxing at least for a year. I had called Marquez before that fight. I said that's who's going to win. And I just said because Marquez seems pissed.

He has something. He actually, he's like, I'm not leaving it to the judges. And you can just see it in his work ethic and the way, the fucking look in his eyes while he was training. I was like, that guy is going to fuck back. Well, you know his trainer is suspect for having like, you know. Nacho? Yeah.

No, no, no. No, that's the physical trainer. You heard about that guy, right, Joe? Yeah. Well, he was involved in the Balco trial. He turned state's evidence on the Victor Conte group. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Conte was torturing him all week on Twitter. I was watching that. It was pretty interesting. We had Conte on the podcast, and he was explaining to me how the whole Balco thing went down. And he said that if this guy's working with him he's doing roids this period and if you look at him his body looks fucking totally different it did according to Victor Conte the the tests that they give you in Nevada he said those are intelligence tests

because those aren't drug tests right he goes if you're intelligent you pass them right he's like damn wow yeah it's like veda testing apparently is like voluntary anti-doping association. They come to your house random times. You never know when they're coming. They might, they might not come for a week. They might be there tomorrow.

You know, you might ring on your doorbell at seven o'clock in the morning and wake you up, you know, unfortunately. Come and draw some blood. Which sucks for a fighter because they need their goddamn sleep. They don't want to have to deal with somebody waking their sleep cycle up and taking blood out of them. That that shit they should work out i'm

down for the whole voluntary aspect of it but you can't do that i don't think you should be able to do that i don't know if they test blood or urine but if they do tell us blood i hope it's a small amount because these guys are training and they just show up to do that but some guys have um said no to it that aren't even on the on juice they just don't want to deal with the constant testing because they will they will wake you up yeah that's manny he was like he was he didn't said no to it that aren't even on juice. They just don't want to deal with the constant testing. Because they will wake you up. Yeah, that's Manny. He was like, he didn't like the testing.

Well, Rory McDonald. Rory McDonald in his last fight was talking about how he did his first test and it was annoying. They woke him up. You know? And he was, when you're a fighter, man, your sleep is fucking gigantic. Yeah. That recovery time is absolutely huge. It's like a comic.

Yeah. So, I mean, as long... I mean, there should be a way that they can do it where it doesn't interrupt you, okay? It doesn't mean... You can't mask it, you know? If you're doing steroids, all right? And they say, we'd like you to come in at 3 o'clock this afternoon. There's no way you're going to clean your system of steroids by 3 o'clock.

So, they should be able to do that. Like, where, you know, you come in when the guy's not waking up. Or they should at least go to them when they're in the gym or something. Yes. Or you just finished training. Right, right. That's a great idea. But the way they say it is that a guy like Marquez,

what you could do is you build him up in the offseason. You have him on all kinds of shit. And then you slowly taper him off. And then by the time the fight comes, he tests normal. He doesn't have anything, but he has all the results of all this stuff in his body.

He has all this thicker muscle and more endurance and all this craziness. And they don't test for EPO. EPO is this, that's the shit that the cyclists use that makes your red blood cell count higher. So it makes you carry more oxygen in your blood.

It's very dangerous though. You can get strokes on it. Is that what Lance did? Supposedly. Allegedly. Yeah, right. But I think he passed like 500 tests or something nutty. He was a bad motherfucker passing tests.

Cancer and fucking. But you know, there's, there's guys taking all kinds of stuff yeah i heard i heard there's guys like taking viagra and shit yes you're right you're right taking viagra is actually a performance enhancing drug for real well it enhances my performance anybody hey he even lifted his his shoulders up automatically viagra's multi multi-purpose yeah it doesn't say it on the box but it is yeah athletes use that

believe it or not no joke athletes use it for endurance for muscular endurance something about it helps the blood flow just like the same way

it does to your dick there's a reason why it gets your dick hard like that it's aiding but it also gives you cold like symptoms does it

yeah plugs up your nose and I got a fucking giant one so it so it's a pain in the ass. It's perfect for your face, though. It looks great. You're a handsome devil. Don't sell yourself short. Oh, Joe.

You know, Russell, at one point in time, if he had to choose another career outside of music or outside of stand-up comedy, it would be DJing. It's true. I started in 85, and I had SLB 200s. Straight tonearm. Straight tonearm and they were belt drive. And I would scratch on them and then the belt would stretch

and fall off. Yes. I used to put 75 cents on my needles to make it stay. Yeah, I used to add a quarter or two. Do you ever do shows where you do jokes

and then spin a record and then do some more jokes? No, because my two DJs are really dope. You know Spinbad. That's one of my DJs. And starting from Scratch from Toronto. Those are my two guys and they're on four turntables. So Scratch plays instrumentals

and Spinbad cuts acapellas over it. And it's pretty fucking sick. Because they don't rehearse. They just go out and play. You should actually give them some shit talk on a vinyl. And have them scratch that. Yeah, they give them some shit talk on a vinyl. Like, fuck you, blah, blah, blah. Well, they have. And have them scratch that. Yeah, they could just upload it to their Serato.

When you do stand-up comedy shows, do they play a background music? No, they play like when people are walking in. Then they play me on. They play me off. And then they play while people are leaving. Maybe they should play in the background while you're performing. You can fucking perform like a rant over some cool-ass music. Henry Phillips and Doug Stanhope did that did you

ever listen to that yeah that's my favorite of of doug's uh cds i think it's something to take the edge off i think that's what it's called it's awesome man because they caught this crazy groove while they were doing it and henry's playing like was he playing acoustic guitar he's playing acoustic guitar behind it and and Doug is talking, and it goes with the music. Was it acoustic guitar or was it piano? I think it was guitar. Didn't Mitch Hedberg did one too with piano?

I can't remember. When I was in New York last year, Jeff Ross had a keyboardist beside him on stage. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, guys have done it. Yeah. The one that I really stage. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, guys have done it. Yeah.

The one that I really liked, though, was Stan Hope's. Stan Hope and that other dude. They just, Henry Phillips, they were friends. So, like, the music, he knew what the bits were. Yeah. So, he knew, like, where Doug was going and, like, how to ramp up. And it was fun. It was, like, it made it cooler. It actually aided it.

So you have a new CD that's coming out, or a new download tomorrow coming out that's completely free. Yes, it's on my website. It's called the Bolt 117 Mix. Is this your free time, releasing a free? Oh, this is for everyone. This is free.

That's great. What's on it? It's just a bunch of craziness. A lot of scratching. I likeiness. A lot of scratching. I like that. A lot of scratching. Hey, what happened to DJ Hurricane? How'd you get his gig?

Who's DJ Hurricane? He was the Beastie Boys original DJ. Kane was the DJ before I got on. But he was not a good DJ at all. He wasn't? You know what was funny is when the guys flew me out, they knew me. And I used to send the boys DJ videotapes and stuff. And so they were like, yo, want to fly you out to work in the studio?

I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean, this is my all-time favorite rap group. It's like joining fucking Led Zeppelin. Right. You know what I mean? I was like, fuck yeah. So I went out there, stayed with them for a whole week in the studio. And did what we needed to do did 10

songs and and uh then they pulled me into this one room we all sat on the floor it was like yo we want you to be our dj and i'm like oh shit then immediately i thought about hurricane i'm like what about hurricane he goes oh he's just a rapper don't worry about him he loves rapping he's not a dj DJ so the next day they sat around this conference conference table to give hurricane a call and they reached him on a four-way they go hey Kane he's like three amigos what's up what's going on Kane we got this other guy and we really like him and we want him to be our DJ. He's like,

word, really? And he's like, well, it's my birthday today. Oh. They called him on his birthday. Oh, shit. Happy birthday.

Yeah, and it was like, that made me feel real bad. I was just like, wow. How rude. I wasn't in it to do what I did, but, you know,

it just worked out the way it is. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do, though. If you're in a band and a guy sucks at drums, well, you know, it's the same thing. LL used to have his DJ, Cut Creator, who was not a good DJ. And then on his second album, he brought in a guy named Bobcat, who was a good DJ, but he kept Cut Creator on stage, but Bobcat would do all the scratching and everything.

It was like, this is my homie. I got to give him his job. I got to let him keep his job, but I need somebody who can do this job. So they had two people doing it. He had two DJs, but only one would do something. Wow. Well, that's pretty loyal of him. He had the homie that wasn't capable of doing what he wanted, but he wanted to keep him there because you're my homie.

But I got another guy that could do it, too, but keep you on the side. It was kind of confusing but he had two djs jazzy jeff told me a story about when him and uh he was on tour with uh ll and back in like the around 87 or something and they were in the hotel room and jazzy jeff and bobcat got into a little battle in his room a dj battle in the room in his room he was doing shit that like his bobcat was really dope so he could do everything but then jeff had to step it up and did some shit that he couldn't do and he was like all right fuck it can you imagine if you're in the room next to these motherfuckers you try to get some sleep they're having dj battles well i'm sure it wasn't very

loud don't you guys have like families to call right now like we're on the road no they're all d DJ battling in their room. That's hilarious. How do you... So when you DJ battle and you just like, one person will go and they'll go for five minutes

and the other person goes? No, if it's like a friendly battle, it's just like, hey, you do a cut, you try and copy each other's cuts. Oh, okay. And then one guy will get more intricate and you'll be like,

all right, fuck it, you win. That's what happens? Mm-hmm. What happens in the real competition it's like there's no friends involved your friends on the outer but not when in it you're getting you're getting you're getting flipped off you're getting all really yeah it gets personal it gets personal they got they got little phrases on their vinyl that says you and your mother you and your mother and that's dead that's towards you huh mother. And that's towards you, huh? Yeah, yeah.

And they'll have your name. They'll have your name. They'll say Mix Master Mike and, you know, or whatever. Wow. Yeah, it gets personal. Oh, they do that kind of shit? They do that type of shit.

And it turns comedy. It turns kind of comedy. It does. Like, people are laughing. Wow. So do they make their own records? Is that what it is? They press their own vinyl?

No, they would just find soundbites from other records. Yes. What was that guy in Denmark? How do you get a record that says Mixmaster Mike on it? You have to find the right spot. You can... A Beastie Boys song? You can get a Beastie Boys song, yeah.

Yeah, I think your name's in this song. That's one of my favorite videos, by the way. That's one of my favorite songs. Yeah. Just how it's set up. Come on, man. Adam. Rest in peace, Adam.

Yeah. How hard was that? Was that just one of the worst days of your life? Yes. I couldn't function for three months after that. You couldn't function? Why? I couldn't because, I mean, Adam was the one that I was calling,

and he was the one that got me into the group. How did you find out? I got a call from, Ad-Rock called me in the morning, and he said, you know, Adam's gone. And I was like, fuck. It just got real. I knew he was suffering, but I didn't know.

Oh, that's what I was doing. I did not understand what you were saying. You meant when Adam died. Yeah. Okay, I did not understand. I thought you were still talking about joining the group. That's what I thought. No, no.

But you motherfuckers are not clear what you're saying. Yeah. Having a close friend, you lose them like that. It's such a weird thing just to know that someone can just not exist anymore. That was Vernon Forrest for me. Yeah. When he got shot, I was all fucked up. You knew Vernon really well?

Yeah. He was one of my best friends really yeah I was Paul bear at his funeral Wow mmm he always seemed like a nice guy he's a fucking awesome dude and he had Shane Mosley's number man oh yeah Shane Mosley that was a crazy little it's funny how there's like certain fighters that even though like you look at boxing math you say well Shane Mosley beats this guy, and that guy beats Vernon. Yeah, there's no logic.

Shane should be able to beat Vernon. It doesn't work that way. Vernon just had Shane's number. It was crazy. He, like, Shane couldn't beat him. Just like how Marquez has Pacquiao's number. Sort of, but I think Pacquiao at least beat him a couple of times. Yeah, Pacquiao has the ability to beat Marquez.

He just has not really decisively done it. First of all, Marquez has an iron jaw. His jaw is made out of fucking steel. That guy takes a tremendous punch. A lot of Mexican fighters just refuse to go down. That's also his heart and his will. It was incredible too.

His resolve inside the boxing ring, along with his power and his ability to take a shot and then return fire, makes it a dangerous fight for Pacquiao. Because Pacquiao has those sort of brawling fights. Pacquiao gets in these crazy fights where he's like swarming on dudes, which is how he ran into that right hand. He knew he had him hurt, so he's coming after him as he had him hurt.

Yeah, that's the worst time too. The other thing is that people are saying that Pacquiao, him hurt so he's coming after him as he had him hurt yeah that's the worst time too the other thing is that people are saying that pacquiao like um becoming a born-again christian might have uh taking away some of his killer instinct yeah well that too and but also might have kept him from doing some supplements that maybe he used to do and uh changed his uh his training style because of that because physically he did not look the same. He didn't look as muscular as he used to look. But that also goes with age too, right?

Yeah, absolutely. But it could have been that also he didn't train the same way. Because I remember before he was going back and forth as to whether or not he should do strength and conditioning. He felt like doing strength and conditioning helped his endurance, but then he felt like it slowed him down a little bit. I remember he went back and forth. There was one or two fights where he stopped doing doing strength and conditioning uh helped his endurance but then he felt like it slowed him down a little bit i remember he went back and forth where there was one or two fights where he stopped doing the strength and conditioning and just did like straight boxing workouts and felt like he had a better result so it could be that too he also has uh i think he's going to

end up suffering from compartment syndrome what's that on your uh calves because he's got really muscular calves a lot of fighters with muscular calves develop compartment syndrome and because you're on the balls of your feet so much your calf muscles are so big and so strong they tighten up and they seize on you and you it's really fucking painful you're worried because if you notice in between rounds they were no but i'm saying they were rubbing his calves in between rounds were they really yeah well i thought that was marquez i think they're rubbing marquez's calves because marquez has problems with his calves cramping. He's had that in previous fights. Yeah, he's got boxer's legs, though, Marquez.

Manny has, like, fucking athletic legs. Yeah, he's got those giant Prince Nassim legs. Yeah, crazy fucking. That's where all the power comes from. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that. You look at a guy's power punching, and you think that it's all from his arms. It's fucking crazy thighs and calves. Yeah, it's the guys who are, like, big punchers.

Tyson had huge fucking calves. Oh, thighs and calves. Yeah, the guys are like big punchers. Tyson had huge, huge calves. Oh, thighs and calves, fuck me. But he had skinny ass ankles. Did he really? Yeah, Tyson had some skinny ass ankles.

Really? Yeah. How would you know? I'm a fight nerd. I'm a fight nerd. come over here. Let me see those gators. You know,

I got gigged, by the way. I was at the Grove a couple weeks ago and I bumped into Eddie Bravo. Oh yeah? I got all nervous when I talked to him. Really? Why?

I don't know. He's a nice guy too. To me, I'm a fan of things. I'm a genuine fan of things. When I meet people that I admire that I know I can't do shit they can do, I automatically go, holy fuck, that's someone special. You still get a little starstruck

when you meet someone cool. It's kind of strange. When you did David Letterman, the Check It Out video, was that all one take or did you guys do that a few times? Because that was one of the most memorable videos where you started off in the studio and they started off coming out of a subway. That was all one take. Was it one take for real?

Yeah, it was all one take. Wow, really? Yeah, the guys came in from the subway. That was all one take. Was it one take for real? Yeah, it was all one take. Wow, really? Yeah, the guys came in from the subway. That is badass. Yeah. So they were using wireless mics walking down the street? Yep. Oh my God, that's incredible.

And this was one take? One take. And I can hear them in my monitors. Wow. So I'm like just, you know, doing it as if they were there. Wow. This is awesome. But I'm in the audience performing by myself.

It's awesome. I always felt like I'm doing a DJ show. And then I got some guests that are coming in. Wow, this is amazing. I never saw this before. Yeah, one of the best videos. All your videos were always great, like intergalactic, your live videos.

You always had your own sense of creativity in what you guys did that was so unique compared to, you know, along with your music being so unique. And that's what I think really made you guys one of the best. Well, you know, my real love with the Beastie Boys came after You Gotta Fight For Your Right To Party. Like, I thought that was cool. Like, I was listening to that shit in my kitchen with my sister and her friends when we're in high school we're like wow like

brass monkey what a cool fucking song but then i got a hold of paul's boutique and i remember thinking wow these guys are fucking crazy like they're doing some freaky shit like they went from being like super duper mainstream you gotta fight fight for your right. They went from that to like... To like who they really were. Yeah, it's the joint. Exactly. Yeah, they had some really cool fucking songs on that. As long as it got past cookie puss, we're good.

Cookie puss? Yeah. Cookie puss. Cookie puss bothered you? I had the 12 inch of it because I remember going, fuck, these cookie puss. I was like, cookie puss? I like both things here.

How long did you work with the Beastie Boys? I was with the boys for, I think, 14 years. 14 years. 14 whole years, yeah. Holy shit. Traveling the world in the studio. That must have been nuts. It was incredible. Those were the glory years.

Dude, I remember walking up on stage and seeing like 400, people and i'm like holy oh my god where the fuck did you go there was 400 000 people germany oh my god fucking that's ironic that three jewish guys are slaying out in germany i felt like this little fucking speck oh my god that's the craziest thing i've ever heard in my life and i'm on and i'm like can all these people hear this shit? Can they all hear this shit? Are the speakers big enough?

Oh my god, that's amazing. That's the biggest crowd ever, right? Biggest, biggest. What's the biggest crowd anybody's ever performed in front of? That's half a million people almost. That sounds about right. That's gotta be close to the end. That was the most for me.

It's in one of those random places like Brazil or Australia or fucking Germany. Josh Wolf showed me a photo of him on stage that he took from the audience, from the stage he was opening for Larry the Cable Guy. Larry the Cable Guy does football stadiums. He does fucking football stadiums. He's moved up. Dude, I mean

you can't believe how many fucking people were there to see him. Josh took this photo with his eye cam. Dude. Dude. Football stadiums. How many people were in a football stadium? It was like 50,000, right?

50,000. Yeah. He's doing 50,000 seat shows. It was a sea of humans. It was unbelievable. This was me in Brooklyn last month. Oh, my God. What the fuck is that?

I did the Barclays Center. What? How many people is that? Uh, that night was only like 14,000 or something like that. Only 14,000. Fuck you. Well,

I mean like, you know, you would, you're humble brag. I say only because, you know, fucking Jay. So you'd played seven nights for 20,000.

Yeah. But still, dude, you're a comic. You did 14,000 people. Yeah. That is a, did you,

you didn't know I do stand up? Of course How dare you Wait a minute Michael You have a phone in front of you You should have googled his ass Hey check this out Here's a Germany word

So Boo lied to me Boo was like Yeah Mr. Mike's a big fan of yours Oh dude this is Of course no This is Mike knows you do comedy This is nuts man

That is crazy His slide to the next one Is San Jose the next night Or a week later Oh my god dude This is crazy You man. That is crazy. The next one is San Jose the next night. That's about a week later. Oh, my God, dude. This is crazy. You're doing these giant places.

How many people is in San Jose? San Jose was like 10. God damn, dude. What is that like? It's awesome. Doing jokes for that many people has got to be different than doing music for them. I mean, I would think that it's – what is the feeling like connecting with that many folks? It's fun. It's one of those things.

You know that it's not going to last forever, so you really fucking enjoy it. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like I know eventually probably sooner rather than later, I'm going to be back in theaters and then back in clubs. Why do you say that? Why would you? You're getting funnier.

What are you talking about? You know what? You've got to be prepared for that you talking about? Well, no, you just, you know what? You've got to be prepared for that. You can't, I don't want to expect anything from the game. I'm just happy to receive what I get. You're just happy with what you're getting. I think it's going to keep going, man. I don't think it's going to be any different.

Joe, here they are in Germany. And just to show you the crowd size of what it looked like, watch, they go to a shot right here. That's my team. Oh, my God. That is insane. They go to a shot right here that's... My D! Oh my god, that is insane! Look at that. Oh my god. For folks at home listening to this, instead of seeing it, if you listen to MP3,

you can't imagine this the sea of human beings that's what 400 000 people looks like wow wow and you know you enjoy doing the cuts to the songs that you grew up listening to of course that must have been fucking dope um with the thing with those crowds is you get piss bottles thrown up on stage. Piss bottles? Piss bottles, yeah. That's common? You say it like it happens all the time.

It does happen all the time. So the guy's pissing a bottle and they just huck it. They just huck it. Really? And it's supposed to be out of love. And it's like, how's that out of love? Come on. Who said it's out of love?

Only dudes that get caught. The dude smoking hash, yeah. What? If you're smoking hash, you're probably least likely to throw a bottle of piss at someone. You'd be ultra sensitive and paranoid. Like, damn, this fucking is not going to work out for me, throwing this bottle of piss.

What if they do some DNA tests on that piss? You'll start thinking crazy shit. What if my piss has a very distinct... What if you're diabetic and what if you took a multivitamin? Yeah, what if you're an asparagus eater and everybody knows it? But to do scratching on Brass Monkey, the actual scratches, with that song, I was getting so fucked up out of my mind in high school,

drinking big 40 ounces and whatever, MD-2020, to Brass Monkey. And to be up on stage, it was weird. Well, you just let the government know that you drank when it was illegal okay way to go right there you're retroactively going to jail you're gonna be in trouble and you're gonna move to canada md 4040 or 2020 mad dog 2020 is strawberry farms that stuff that's the shit that makes you want to fight oh my god i don't even know what that stuff is oh do you don't oh i'm canadian a friend of mine you know what that is hey mark no i don even know what that stuff is. Oh, dude. You don't? I'm Canadian. A friend of mine. You know what that is, eh, Mark? No, I don't know what that is.

Hey, if you have beef with somebody, let's guzzle it and go. Oh, nice. A friend of mine and I, we drank Mad Dog 2020 in Old English and watched Superfly. Are those malt liquors? Do like a breakdown of it. Malt liquors? Yes, yes. And alcohol, right?

Whatever it is, it's designed to make ghetto people do terrible things. Exactly. It's designed for that. That's what it does to you. And it's huge. Like, these giant jugs of, like, shit beer that get you fucked up. And it's designed by the government. Exactly. Makes you shoot loads into people.

Fuck it. It's not a healthy buzz. Bad enough. No. Cisco? I haven't had that. Oh, yeah. What's that?

Cisco is this kind of same thing. Yeah, another. Another form of 2020. Where are you from? You're from the Bay? I'm from the Bay Area, yeah. What's that? Cisco is this kind of same thing. Yeah, another form of 2020. Where are you from? You're from the Bay? I'm from the Bay area, yeah. From the Yay area. Yay.

From the Yay. That's a terrible way to fucking go out on a town on some malt liquor. That's a terrible way. It's a terrible, terrible attitude to approach reality. The malt liquor way? Yeah. American beer is so common. I never drank until I was 31. Really? Yeah, beer is so common. I never drank until I was 31.

Really? Yeah, I never drank. I never did anything until I was 31. What made you drink at 31? What was it that put the weight? There was a chick that was in South Africa, and she was like, she was asking me why I didn't drink. I just said I didn't like the taste of it.

I didn't know. I was a control freak. Right. And then I was like, why do you drink? She goes, it makes me horny. And I was like, I'll have two of these. I don't want her to be horny alone. Yeah, but her to be horny and you to be confused.

Wow, this is what drunk feels like. And I was the happiest drunk ever. I was scared that I'd be a miserable drunk. I think if you're a miserable drunk, you're a cunt in real life. You're just barely keeping it together. That's what I think. Alcohol just outs your shitty personality. I mean, I know a lot of people who are actual alcoholics

and they have a real issue with not knowing what the fuck they're doing while they're drunk. But for other people, they get a little buzzed and just get cunty with you. They know what the fuck they're doing. They have those thoughts all the time. They just don't entertain them. And then they get a couple of drinks

and then they say all this shit they've been thinking about you anyway. And you're like, you're gross. Yeah, it just comes out. I laugh and giggle a lot like a fucking little girl. I a sweetie i want to hug everybody when i'm drunk when i'm drunk i want to be everybody's friend i want to make sure everybody gets a drink too so i buy i buy everybody i'm like hey come on what do you want what do you do me segura and eddie bravo were in we we showed up in sydney we were there for the ufc and and uh segura and i had a show

and we were a day early so we said what do you do you want to do? Let's go get fucked up. We made a conscious decision. I'm like, my kids aren't here. I don't have any responsibilities. I'm walking to the hotel. It's on the same block. Let's get fucking hammered. So we went up to this bar and literally just took over the bar,

bought everybody drinks. I spent thousands of dollars. I bought everybody in the bar. I know you have. I bought everybody in the bar drinks. We just constantly round of drinks for everybody. You want a drink, motherfucker? Get over here.

Give me a high five. And by the end of the night, we were just hammered, eating food. The whole evening was a blur. But one of those old school nights where you just really go off like that and you plan it. Yeah, it's fun. The only problem was the next day. The next day, my head was in a vice while I was on stage. I was like, oh.

I got fucked up on Friday. And not even that like, oh. I got fucked up on Friday. And not even that fucked up, but I got fucked up on Friday. And I ended up just not doing anything Saturday. I watched the fight and drove back to L.A. is what I did. Did you watch it in Vegas? I watched it at my house, though. I couldn't get tickets. You couldn't get any tickets?

I wanted ringside. And I was like, fuck it. If I can't be ringside at that fight, I'm going to watch it at home. That's the one you want to be there for. Are you going to be in Vegas for December 31st? 29th, rather. 29th. I want to.

Can I? Yes. Yes. That's why I'm asking you. That's the one I really want to go to. I'm scheduling a little squirrel in those away right now. Yes, please. Yeah.

Okay. You got it. Yeah. That's going to be a fun one, man. Who's on that bill? Cain Velasquez. Oh, the Santos rematch. Oh, the big boys. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? Well fun one, man. Who's on that bill? Cain Velasquez. Oh, the Santos rematch. Oh, the big boys.

Yeah. What do you think? Well, look, man. You always got to think. Cain's had a lot of time off. Yes. And I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. Well, he had a big fight, though, with Silva.

He fought Bigfoot Silva and beat the shit out of him. He just ran through him like a fucking hot knife through butter. It was beautiful. Wow. It was a perfect fight for him. Literally, he just ran through him. Did everything perfect. But I think that Cain already has been knocked out by Junior,

so we know that Junior can win. We know that Junior, if he connects with that haymaker right hand like he did, we know that he can win. But the question is, can Junior deal with Kane's pace? If Kane doesn't get knocked out in the first couple rounds, that's the real plan for Kane is to drag Junior into the third, fourth, and fifth round because Kane has ridiculous endurance. His endurance is just insane.

He does conditioning drills, and he beats lightweights. It's really nuts. For a guy that's 240 pounds that has the kind of conditioning and the pace that he can put on, so for him it's imperative that he get out of the first and second rounds and make Junior slow down a little. Because Junior slowed down in fights. He slowed down in the Roy Nelson fight. He slowed down in fights.

You can't slow down against Kane. Because Kane in the third round, it's the same gas tank that he had in the first round. So that's when it gets really crazy. If Kane can drag him into the third and fourth round. How's DeSantos' ground game? It's very good You don't ever see it You don't ever see it because

Because he's always knocking guys out Also because his takedown defense is insane His takedown defense is fantastic But the reason why his takedown defense is good Is because he fucking works on it tremendously He works on all the aspects of his wrestling Not just the takedowns But takedown defense and takedown offense

I mean he took down Shane Carwin when they fought. It's true. And it was almost like to prove a point. And his ground games as far as submissions, it's also top notch. People don't realize it, but he's like a high-level brown belt, almost a black belt. He might be a black belt now. I'm not sure.

But whatever it is, I get word from the people that are training with him, like he's a bad motherfucker on the ground. You just don't see it because he's knocking everybody senseless. He's so good with his boxing, but he doesn't have any holes in his game. He's the fucking UFC heavyweight champion.

You really can't get to that position if you have any holes in your game. Especially with a guy like him. What is this injury Carwin suffered? I'm a little out of the loop on what's going on. I think it's a knee, right? Yeah, he tore his knee. He tore his knee. I was really looking forward to that fight with him and Nelson.

Carwin has had a bunch of surgery so far because Carwin has been through a lot of, like, physical trauma, not just in fighting, but in football. He played football. And, you know, he said that's where the majority of his injuries came from, like all sorts of back problems. And he had to get surgery to open up his spinal column. And he was still, when I saw him, it was like maybe six or seven months ago, we were talking about it, he still wasn't 100%.

He still, you know, like things are starting to move better again, but he was in like constant pain before, and he was having numbness in his hands and shit like that. Kung had his elbow scoped before the Franklin fight. How far out? September. Wow. Yeah.

That's crazy. What was that fight, in October or November? That fight was in November. Whoa. So he played it just about six weeks out. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they say. You can get back to full training after six weeks.

But for him, I bet he probably trained while it was still sore as fuck. He told me he was training while he was sore. Anderson Silva defended his title against Travis Luter five weeks after he had knee surgery on both knees. He had both his knees scoped and meniscus and, like, barely trained and caught Travis Luter in a triangle. So he clamped

down on him with his... With his knees. Operated on knees and elbowed the fuck out of him until Travis tapped. There's a lot of guys that take crazy chances like that. Anderson's fought with a fucked up rib, too. Well, Anderson has like plan A through F through G all the way down, right? Yeah. If you get a chance to watch that guy in the next couple of years, you've got to go live, folks.

You've got to see this guy before he retires. Dude, I had a chance to hold his belt. Really? Oh, really? It was like, fuck, I'm holding his belt. Fuck yeah. Wow. One of my favorite fighters.

I mean, there's Bruce Lee, and then for me, there's Anderson Silva. I know this a lot. He's fucking highly unbeatable. Fuck. What he does to guys now is spooky. Yeah. It's not even fun to watch anymore. The last fight where he kept going to the cage and going,

you can get me right here or right here. Stefan Bonner, he just pinned his back up against the cage. He's like, come on. Come on over here. The knee to the solar plexus, that's brutal. That wasn't nice. And he's done that to two people in a row now. He did that same knee on the ground to Chael Sonnen

and then standing up to Stefan Bonner. He's a master at driving that fucking knee into your solar plexus. His body doesn't reflect the guy you would think who's doing that. No. And Bonner's not a walkover either. No, he's not. Bonner's a tough guy. Anderson's really strong.

He's a lot stronger than people think. And his technique. His fucking technique is amazing. His technique and his reflexes, his speed, and his ability to cover distance. He can sneak up on you before you even know it's happening and blast you. His ability to close the distance is really inhuman. Are they going to try and make the Jones fight? Yes.

John Bones Jones? Yeah, and Anderson. That's most likely because it doesn't look like GSP wants that right now. It looks like GSP wants to defend his title at welterweight first. And the other thing that GSP is thinking is that if he goes up to 185, he's not going to be able to go down to 170 again, just like with Roy Jones. We were talking about that.

You got to be real careful about that because once your body commits to a new size, it does not want to go back. And like, especially over like a couple of months, you know, whatever your training camp is. You could have a real hard time unless you're super disciplined about your diet from the moment your last fight is to now. You're going to have a hard time cutting that weight.

You're going to have to trick your body into getting smaller. If you don't, you're going to be weak as fuck. He wants to make sure that if he goes up to 185 that he's going to stay there. I think he should have two more fights before he considers moving up. Well, I think he's got to fight Johnny Hendricks or Nick Diaz. Those are the two fights.

Oh, is Johnny Hendricks the one with the beard? Yeah. And the crazy left hand? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Johnny Hendricks. I think Nick and him need to settle that business first. I like Johnny Hendricks. He's one of my favorites.

Well, Nick and him could settle that business. That's very much a possibility. I would definitely love to see that fight. I would love to see that fight. But I would love to see the Hendricks fight as well. I would love to see Diaz versus Hendricks. I think that's another interesting fight. As an eliminator?

Dude, well, I don't know if Nick Diaz should have to fight an eliminator. I think if anybody should get a title shot, it should be Diaz, if I had to guess. But I wouldn't be mad at you if you wanted to put together a Diaz vs. Hendricks fight. I think that would be sick. That would be so sick. That would be a sick fight. Goddamn that would be a great fight. You know what else I want to see? I want to see Condit vs. Rory McDonald.

I want to see that rematch. Especially after Rory called him out after the fight and he said you humiliated me. He said it in his crazy way. It was so uncomfortable. He wants to fuck him up so bad, the kid's lips are trembling. I think that would be a really interesting fight, especially when you see how goddamn good he looked in that BJ fight.

His combinations and footwork, incredible. Shields beat Condit, right? When was this? Didn't they fight? Might be maybe pre-UFC. I don't think so, though. But this is it, Joe. What if Roy would have fought BJ in his prime?

If Roy fought BJ in his prime, it certainly would have been. Yeah, they fought. I think they fought in Rumble on the Rock. Oh, they fought before? Is that where they fought? Jake Shields and Carlos Condit. Yeah. No, they did fight. That's right they fought? Jake Shields and Carlos Condit. Yeah. No, they did fight.

That's right. Yeah, Jake Shields beat him by decision. I think it was Rumble on the Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rumble on the Rock. Yeah, Jake beat him by decision. Jake's quite a bit bigger. He fought a lot at 185.

Actually, I want to take that back. I don't think he is bigger. Because I think Carlos, if he wanted to, could lot at 185. Actually, I want to take that back. I don't think he is bigger. Because I think Carlos, if he wanted to, could fight at 185 too if he just bulked up a little bit. And Jake's not really a natural middleweight. I mean, he fought middleweight. He fought Dan Henderson. He fought some Robert Lawler. Jake's a small guy.

He's a small guy. You know, he's a vegan. Yeah. Yeah, been a vegan his whole life. Really? Yeah, vegetarian at least. I mean, sometimes he'll eat eggs, I think. And maybe

some dairy or something like that. But for the most part, he's at least a vegetarian. He's a really nice guy. Yeah, he's a great guy. Just like a really fucking chill dude. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, his temperament, like when you're around him,

you would never imagine he'd be so ferocious inside the cage. He's just one of those guys that has this unbelievable ground game. Like his ground game, his jiu-jitsu is so fucking strong. But he can't make his striking like that. The levels are so different. He has this like black belt level ground game, like sick ground game. And then he has this

sort of blue belt-ish stand-up game. And he can't really, it's really interesting. Some people's bodies or maybe the athleticism that they have, whatever it is,

it doesn't work for striking. It's real weird. Striking, I always find striking in MMA a lot different because you can't really plant your feet the same way. So it's more impressive when somebody gets knocked out in an

octagon for me because they really had to fucking plan that shot. Right, as opposed to what Russell's saying for people who don't understand is you have to stand in a different stance you have to stand more square and you have to always be worried to sprawl or to deflect any sort of takedowns on your legs.

Yeah, you've got to check kicks. So you stand a little different. So many other things. So many variables. Yeah, as opposed to a boxing stance where you don't ever have to protect your legs. You just kind of stay tight to your body. The problem with that is when I watch boxing now,

all I think about is leg kicks. Someone, some nasty motherfucker like Pedro Hizzo slamming a shin into your leg there. I remember Pedro Hizzo. Out of all the guys I've ever seen kick guys, he's the one who scared me the most. Pedro Hizzo used to kick dudes in the legs. He used to just go, God. You would like sigh in your chair. It sounded like two wooden sticks connected.

It was horrible. It sounded like someone literally. Pedro had them fucking giant thighs on him too. Huge thighs. Ridiculous. I've seen him. I saw him at a Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu kick the bag too. That motherfucker kicks hard.

It's not just like, it's not like, I wonder how hard that is. When you see him kick a bag, you know how much that bag weighs. You see the bag fucking indent from his giant shins. It sounds like someone's hitting a big side of beef with a baseball bat, like right in the meaty ass part. Just thunk. He's the one out of all the dudes I've ever seen leg kick anybody that scared me and made me the most uncomfortable watching it.

So I see that in boxing now i just like see like why wouldn't you just kick somebody's legs it's right there the real the most exciting striking would be uh professional muay thai if they really get if they got real money involved in professional muay thai because like people love the ufc but quite honestly a lot of people like the striking aspect of it more than they even like the ground aspect of it. Yeah, I mean, you know, but now we got this new generation who grew up training everything. And the first wave was I do this, you do that. And then there was guys that, okay, I did this, now I'm learning that.

And now it's like I know everything. If you could get someone to bankroll a top-level Muay Thai guy fighting a top-level boxer and let the Muay Thai guy kick the boxer, you would see people really open their eyes as to how silly just regular boxing is. If you've got a guy who is able to keep you off with the teep and then slam a couple leg kicks in, you've got a useless leg. By the end of the first round, you can't move right anymore. You can't bob and weave right anymore. And then he starts attacking the inside of your leg. And then he starts elbowing you in the face. And he's grabbing the back of the head and kneeing you in the body.

It wouldn't last. You have a couple of minutes to get off good punches and hurt him. If you don't, he's slowly going to chip away at your foundation. And then you're fucked. When we're watching boxing, we're really watching a very flawed method of fighting. It's a good idea if you're fighting in a bar, if you don't want to kick somebody if you're wearing slippery shoes and shit. It's good to know how to stand up because if you go to the ground with someone,

there's a whole group of people. They could all start punting you when you're down. It's better to be able to stand up, and boxing is the best way to get that off. But for just a competition of fighting, it's like, man, there's a lot of holes in that sport. If a guy can take you down, if a guy can kick your legs, if a guy can elbow you, if a guy can grab you and knee your body in your face. You're utilizing all your weaponry.

But it's funny how it's still super popular. The watching of the Marquez fight and the Pacquiao fight, that was probably the most watched sporting event of the year. Pacquiao made $23 million. God damn. And Marquez fight and the Pacquiao fight, that was probably the most watched sporting event of the year. Pacquiao made $23 million. God damn. And Marquez made $6 million. Yeah, just when you think that the sport is going to plummet, it's like people are still interested.

There's still great fighters out there, man. And this new wave of fighters. I mean, I'll say boxing. Oh, Adrian Broner. Broner's amazing. Broner, Canelo, Alvarez. Yeah, that's a great fight. Are they talking about making that fight? Oh, my God, please do. Canelo and Broner. Broner's amazing. Broner, Canelo, Alvarez. Yeah, that's a great fight. Are they talking about making that fight?

Oh, my God, please do. Canelo and, yeah. And Broner, that'd be a great fight. Is that what the next fight is? I think Broner's got a tight one. I think Broner could outbox him. I think Broner's skinnier. And hit him.

Is he? I think Broner, yeah, Broner's a lighter weight. Yeah. Well, what is Alvarez fighting, 154? What is Alvarez? 47 or 54. Canelo, Alvarez, let's find out right now. How about a Floyd versus Canelo?

Floyd without boxing. Yeah, but that's all that's left now that Manny got knocked out. I mean, he's got not that many big name fights, man. Yeah. See, this kid was born in 1990. Isn't that crazy? Who's that? Canelo?

Canelo. Yeah, that's crazy. He's a little baby. He's a baby. And he's a red-headed Mexican that beats the fuck out of people. Yes, he does. That is so strange. What a weird fucking cat he is.

His father and all of his brothers have dark hair. Yeah. Somewhere there's an Irish family. His mother. With a Mexican kid wondering. His mother's a redhead. Exactly. His sons, all the other brothers have dark hair, but his mom's a redhead.

And that's where he got it from. That's amazing, man. That kid is a beast. He is a beast. A beast with no neck. Yeah, he's the lightweight champion. So he's 135. Canelo's 135?

Yeah. That's Oscar's boy. Oscar's like. I think, I mean, he's obviously going to grow out of that weight. He's going to end up at 147. Well, at the third bottom of his career. If not 154. Okay, no, he's fighting. I'm, he's obviously going to grow out of that weight. He's going to end up at 147. Well, at the third battle of his career. If not 154. Okay, no, he's fighting.

I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that. He started out his first weight class where he won a title. He beat the current IBF lightweight champion. I fucked up. But he is fighting as a welterweight now. And I think that's where Broner's got to go because he can't make weight anymore. He might have been fighting as a welterweight his. And I think that's where Broner's got to go because he can't make weight anymore. He might have been fighting as a welterweight his whole career.

I think I'm incorrect. I think what it's saying that his third bout of his career was a guy who at this point in time is IBF lightweight champion, Miguel Vasquez. So Vasquez was welterweight and dropped down to lightweight. They phrased it funny. He's only fucking what is he 22 years 22 22 that's ridiculous yeah to be like that high level at 22 years old our careers are older than him do you realize that yeah they are yeah my career is two years older than this kid yeah it's fascinating watching young people like this come up there's this new new breed he's

a monster too he's a scary fucking kid. He is a scary kid. He beats dudes down. He could take a punch, too. He's like a fucking walking ball. I think he was very gentle with Mosley when he fought him. Really? I think he showed him a lot more respect than he should have. Do you think he's just being nice? I really do think he's being nice.

I think De La Hoya might have went, hey, listen, Mosley and I are partners on a lot of things. Do you think you could not beat the shit out of him? Exactly. Just beat him? Well, his last few fights, man, especially the Kermit-Citron fight. Oh, he beat the shit out of Citron. He's a killer, man.

He is a killer. He's a killer. That's a fucking hard way to make a living, man. It's a hard way. When you leave a boxing match, like, did you see Berto and Guerrero? What a great fight. But at the end of the fight, when Berto's eyes, both eyes are completely

shut and you're at home going, fuck that. Fuck doing that for a living. Could you imagine if Berto had been more active instead of having that 14, 15 months off? I think he could have squeaked out a decision. Maybe. Or maybe even a knockout. Who knows?

But the bottom line is he was prepared and Guerrero was prepared and Guerrero beat him. He's a beast too. They're talking about Floyd versus Guerrero. Guerrero is a beast, man. I don't know if he can get in on Floyd. Floyd is just such a master boxer. Yeah, I don't think he deserves a shot yet. I don't think so either.

What? After he beat the fuck out of Berto like that? I think so. I think so. I think so either. What? After he beat the fuck out of Berto like that? I think so. I mean, I say beat the fuck out of him. I mean, it was a closer decision than that. If Floyd's going to be picking his fights, he should pick more competitive fights. Sergio Martinez. That would be a great fight.

Sergio Martinez is a lot bigger than him. A lot bigger. No, they're 154. Really? No, Sergio can't really. I mean, he can make 154. It's a struggle. Floyd's a natural 147. Yeah? No, Sergio can't really. I mean, he can make 154. It's a struggle. Floyd's a natural 147.

Yeah, Floyd, you know, he doesn't cut any weight if he's fighting at 154. He's not a big guy. Martinez is much bigger than him, I think. It'd be awesome if he gets two. Or Chavez-Martinez rematch. That was a great fucking fight. That's a good fight. Oh, when Chavez knocked him out in the 12th round.

Yeah. It was like Meldrick-Taylor, Julio Cesar Chavez. Was that Chavez knocked him out in the 12th round? Yeah. It was like Meldrick Taylor, Julio Cesar Chavez. Was that Chavez he fought? When he beat the shit out of him? Fucking ruined Meldrick's career? Yes. He knocked him out with a couple seconds ago in the last round. It was three seconds last.

Richard Steele stopped that fight. Rightly so. Fucking Meldrick Taylor was done. It was never the same after. Yeah. But even though that that was like that was a brutal beatdown

it was the the craziness of the Pacquiao knockout eclipsed that like the the seeing seeing Pacquiao

like faceplant like that that was one of the most dramatic I was scared I genuinely thought he was dead well yeah he could have been dead like yeah that was one of the most dramatic losses

yeah that you've ever seen yeah the only other Asian been dead. Yeah, that was one of the most dramatic losses I think I've ever seen. Yeah, the only other Asian that hit the canvas like that was Deku Kim. He didn't even hit the canvas like that. He hit it backwards. He wilted.

He wilted. He wilted over a barrage of punches. And then his head bounced. I'm getting that guy on the podcast. I'm going to try to get Boom Boom Mancini on the podcast. Yeah. My publicist is...

He knows him, apparently. That'd be awesome. That'd be fucking awesome that'd be awesome he loves out here doesn't he yeah he does I watched that guy fight a hundred times man

I don't know how many times I won but when I was a kid where was he from Rhode Island or something he kind of reminded me of Rocky no Pennsylvania did he he was a bad motherfucker

oh Youngstown was he from Youngstown Youngstown Ohio oh yeah he was yeah him and Kelly Pavlik yeah Kelly Pavlik is another one

that kid's crazy he was supposed to and Kelly Pavlik. Yeah, Kelly Pavlik is another one. That kid's crazy. He was supposed to fight Ward, but then Ward got hurt in training just recently. Andre Ward got hurt? That guy's the best right now. He's one of the best. He's incredible. He's an incredible technician.

That's the guy that Nick Diaz is doing a lot of his boxing work with. Doing a lot of sparring with that guy. You wonder why Diaz's boxing is so fucking sharp. You're sparring Andre Ward, dude. Come on, son. I'm going to the Con fight Saturday if you want to go. Are you really? Yeah. I can't.

I'm going to be in the UFC. There's another fight this Saturday? Yeah. Oh, Nelson versus... Yeah. What time is the Con fight? What time does it start? Probably.

It's in LA, so I don't know. Oh, it's in LA. At the LA Sports Arena. Oh, really? Yeah. And what's going on with Amir Khan? it's in LA? At the LA Sports Arena. Oh, really? Yeah. What's going on with Amir Khan? What's he doing? He's fighting Carlos Molina. He's training at Andre Ward's gym now with Andre's Virgil Hunter. Oh, really?

Yeah. He left Freddie Roach? He left Freddie. Yeah, he left Freddie. Fired Freddie. He fired Freddie. What did he decide? That Freddie was giving Pacquiao too much attention? No. Actually, he told me. Yeah, that's what it was. A little bit of it. But Khan told me. He fired Freddie. What did he decide? That Freddie was giving Pacquiao too much attention? No, actually, he told me. Yeah, that's what it was, a little bit of it. But Khan told me. He said he called Freddie after and spoke to him personally and said,

you know, we had a good run. I think I need to switch up my game and learn some different things. That's not a bad idea, man. Sometimes just doing that alone is really good for a fighter. He said he's been learning things with Virgil Hunter that he never ever did in his boxing career. Fresh starts are so important, especially if you can have a fresh start with someone who's got a different approach.

I know Gray Maynard went from extreme couture to AKA, and he's very happy with doing that. It was a big change for him. He moved up to San Jose to start training there, but apparently he's experiencing some great results with that. I think any time in your life you make a big change, you force your brain to start reexamining everything you do because the drive to work is different, the store you go to is different.

Everything's different. It's almost like a little fresh start in your existence. That shit's important for a creative person too. And boxing and MMA, believe it or not for a creative person too, you know, and boxing and spy MMA, believe it or not, is creative because like you're, you're creating those combinations as you're throwing them inside the cage. And you can become predictable. Yes,

absolutely. Absolutely. And that predictability, even though people don't, people think of creativity as being something that's always constructive and artistic and not destructive, like kicking someone's ass, but really kicking someone's ass but really kicking someone's ass can be creative because there's a lot to there's a groove and a flow to like a

contest to like a guy attacking and you countering and you moving and him reacting there's like a lot of orchestration and when that's why like a guy like anderson when when he like leads guys and he's sizing people up, then all of a sudden he front kicks a dude in the face and knocks him out like he did in the Vitor fight. He saw a movement. I think that's what happened with Kung against Rich. Rich must have been watching his legs the whole time and Kung came with the right hand. Well, also Rich should have never taken that fight at that weight class.

He hadn't fought in that weight class since 2006. Did he have to move up? Yeah. No, he had to move down. Oh, he had to move down. He had to lose a fuckload of weight. The looks, the photos that they got of him entering into the weigh-ins were horrific.

He looked like he was in Auschwitz. I mean, it's crazy. His face was so sucked in. He dehydrated the shit out of himself for that. And that's one thing that's really hard on your body. And it's hard on your body when you're 20, but it's really hard on your body when you're 40. And Kung doesn't have to do that.

Kung is losing like a little bit of weight probably, but Kung is like one of those guys that fights like closer to what he actually weighs. Yeah, Kung maybe goes up five, six pounds. Yeah, well, that's healthy, man. That's actually an intelligent way to do it. The guys who cut a tremendous amount of weight, they take a risk.

And they also get sick a lot. That's what happened with Mike Swick this weekend, apparently. Mike Swick had gotten sick the week of the fight. And he just didn't look himself against Matt Brown.

And Matt Brown was on fucking fire. And just KO'd Mike. It was a horrific KO, too. But that, if you look at that fight, that's a perfect example of why weight cutting can be tricky. Yeah, that's a perfect example why like weight cutting

can be tricky. Yeah, I'm a big proponent of looking at whose body's dry when they get into the ring. That's big too, man. That's always what I do.

It's big too. They go, who do you think is going to win? Let me see them enter the ring and I'll tell you. And when I saw Marquez walk in the ring and go,

he will. He's sweating like crazy right now. Yeah. I mean, he's very hydrated. But what's interesting about the Marquez-quiao fight, though, is that I watched it with Dana White and Sam Tripoli.

And while we were watching it, we were saying, like, Marquez is not throwing that many punches. Like, he's, like, being, like, way more conservative in his punch output. He was economizing. Yeah. We were wondering if it was that. We were also wondering if it was just the fact that he put on all that extra muscle. He'd been doing, like, they showed in those 24-7s. They showed all the crazy power. Power lifting and shit he was that. We're also wondering if it was just the fact that he put on all that extra muscle he'd been doing. Like they showed

in those 24-7s. They showed all the crazy power he was doing. Yeah, he was definitely lifting. Well, look. It fucking paid off. He never knocked him out before. And then one punch flatlines him. I mean, he never even knocked him down before. He staggered him in previous fights. Knocked him down in the third round in this one.

And then that was a great knockdown, too. It was. But he didn't go after him after that. Did you notice that? No, no. He took his time. Well, I think he didn't want to run into anything.

Look what happened. He tacked out, tagged him, had him hurt. But he had Pacquiao backpedaling the whole time. He could have stepped it up a little bit

because he really just let him off the hook. Who knows? Well, it all worked out. No sense of being critical. Yeah. Because I remember when I would train

and my coach would tell me don't fucking step back and admire your work. Get sense in being critical. Yeah. Because I remember when I would train and my coach would tell me, don't fucking step back and admire your work. Get in there. Watch it later. Well, if there's anybody that I compare, when I compare the great boxers, it is you. When I think of how would Russell Peters have handled this situation. I just meant what my coach would tell me.

Would Russell have made this mistake? I really don't think so. You son of a bitch. Why, Iota. Why, Iota. Do you think that Pacquiao's done? I don't think so. You son of a bitch. Do you think that Pacquiao's done? I don't think he's done. Do you think he can come back from a knockout? I sure do. I think he can come back, no doubt. I think it wasn't a war of

attrition. He got knocked out, and that's at least the easiest way to come back. Do you think about the amount of blows that he's already taken, though? Because that really has an effect. When you get KO'd like that and then on top of that you've had how many fights has he had? Has he had 50 plus fights? How many fights? I think about 56

something like that. Think about how many fights that guy's had and all the blows that he's taken in those fights, all the blows that he's taken in training. There's going to come a time where he can't. There will come a time. I think he's got about another two years left on. I think he's very prideful, and it was embarrassing for him, especially when he looks back at it.

He doesn't want to go out and be remembered like that. Yeah. He doesn't. He's such a nice guy, man. It's hard to watch a really nice guy get knocked out like that. Yeah. You know? He's so friendly.

Such a sweetheart when you're around him. No mean bone in his body. I mean. Yeah. It's just that one matchup. It's too bad that him and Floyd never fought, because that would have been goddamn fascinating. Yeah, I always said Floyd was waiting for Manny to get into a few more brawls and work himself down, and then come in and fight him and win real easy.

Exactly what he was doing. Look, Floyd's not stupid, but he fucked up with this one. He should have caught him right after that last fight. Right after he lost his title. To Bradley? Yeah, but the Bradley fight was bullshit. He won that fight. It was one of the worst decisions ever.

That was the worst decision ever. That wasn't right. That was Bob Arum. He should have, Floyd should have stepped in right there. Maybe Manny has a rematch with Bradley now. Enough of this. That'd be a good fight. You know what, Bradley, I don't know what Bradley's doing and what his whole thing is.

Yeah, he's kind of fallen into obscurity somehow. Well, I think when you get knocked unconscious the way Manny did, I don't think you're even allowed to fight for a long time. I think you have to take six months off. I think you've got to take six months off. Well, Amir got knocked out in July. Like that, not like that. Yeah, that's true.

It's a different kind of knockout. That that's unconscious face down for 10 15 minutes and people can say oh there's no difference concussions a concussion that is a severe case that's a severe concussion there's a difference between that and getting rocked and the referee stops it because a lot of those guys are never really out cold if you're you know and is, and is it like people say that like, well, there's no difference even though the brain is, if the brain is getting concussed, whether or not you lose consciousness, there's no difference. I got to think that when your body says, you know what, let's just shut the consciousness down.

We need vital functions only. Let's keep this fuck knowing where you are. I got to think that that somehow is worse than just a regular concussion. Your body's shutting off. That shit can't be worse. And I don't know what kind of statistics they've done on that medically, but just using simple logic, you would have to say that losing your consciousness because of a punch is worse than not losing your consciousness. When your brain has so much trauma that it shuts everything down and there's no more thinking that's gotta be a bad sign and when that happens like in a in a mma

fight you know i don't you rarely see the guy again for like a good solid six months because you need like three months of no head contact no nothing and if you go back in the gym too soon and you start boxing and sparring and get thudded and wobbled when you're still recovering from that earlier concussion, I mean, who knows how much shit is going on inside your head? Who knows what connective tissues have been separated? Who knows what part of your brain's been damaged? Who knows?

Who knows exactly what the extent of it is? And if you don't take that time off and and let your brain really heal up i have a friend who got hit in the head with a golf ball and he said he wasn't the same for six months oh i have a there was a kid who it's a a fan i guess well yeah he's a fan he uh his family hit me up because he was a 17 year old kid he had diabetes and his friends and him were going to play golf and he went to stood by a tree to go shoot his uh insulin his friend shot the ball it ricocheted off the tree and hit him in the head and he was fine he walked away but then he just

collapsed and then he was in a coma for like two weeks when he came out of the coma he was in he had full amnesia full didn't remember his name his mom dad nobody whoa so he went into um wow rehab for the next uh three to six months or something like that so they could try and work his memory back and then before he had the accident he was a big fan of mine and one day one of his friends came over and put on my dvd and the kid remembered every fucking word out of my mouth. And I started crying when I got the email. And then I went and visited the guy because it started triggering back his memory. Wow.

That's crazy. A golf ball can make you forget who you are. Yep. And it ricocheted. It wasn't even like direct hit. And is that to the temple or is that like to the penile gland?'s that like it must have been right in the temple i guess temple area i think the pineal gland's in the middle somewhere i don't think you really get to that sucker right it's in the middle yeah the the back of the head's supposed to be real dangerous that's why

strikes to the back of the head are illegal in mma yeah but what's interesting is a kick to the back of the head when a guy's standing. Yeah. If you roundhouse kick a guy, a lot of the impact is the back of the head. But that's legal. And that's shutting your screen off right there. Yeah. You're supposed to. The neck kick, especially neck kicks in kickboxing.

A lot of those guys try and catch you and pull you too, right? Well, yeah. They kind of chop down like Ernesto Who style. They chop down with that head kick. I remember that guy. That shit goes over your shoulder and clang down on your neck and night and night. Speaking of Dutch fighters, what's Overeem up to right now?

Overeem is fighting in January, December rather. December 31st, that same card. The 29th. That you're coming to. Yeah, 29th. I said 31st. Jesus Christ, I can't get the date right. You're getting New Year's Eve on me.

Yeah, it's... I'm not even doing a New Year's Eve show this year. It's the first year. I'm having a party at my house if you want to come. Maybe I will do that. You're going to come? Yeah, of course. Shit, Spinbad's going to be playing too.

Yeah. I'll be playing. Spin will be playing. You guys are going to have DJs at your party? House party? Sexy pitch. Yeah. Steve Wonder.

Probably come play too. Nice. Stevie Wonder? You don't even have to play Do you know Stevie Wonder And call him Steve If you want Fucking throw down

Catering I'm asking a question Is this Stevie Wonder The same guy No DJ Steve Wonder Wonder Wonder Oh his name is Steve Wonder

Yeah That's ridiculous You can't call yourself Steve Wonder God damn it This is Stevie Wonder How the fuck can you Call yourself Steve Wonder

I think it's in honor of Oh in honor How about the girl fights Joe Ronda R Wonder? I think it's in honor of. Oh, in honor. How about the girl fights, Joe? Ronda Rousey? That's going to be in LA. That's in Anaheim. I like some of those girls.

What's Cyborg up to? I like those girls. Yeah, Cyborg is a beast. She's up to about 155. Solid. Is no one ever going to beat Cyborg? No one's ever going to beat her, right? Oh, who knows?

Unless they bring in an actual cyborg. Her and Ronda Rousey. Yeah, Ronda actual cyborg. Her and Ronda Rousey. Yeah, Ronda Rousey. Her and Ronda Rousey would be a big fight. But right now, the first ever UFC female fight is the headlining fight in UFC 157, which is live from Anaheim. It's Ronda Rousey versus Liz Karmouche. I hope I'm saying Liz's name correctly. But Liz Karmouche is like the first

openly gay fighter competing in the UFC because she's a lesbian big ol' lesbo, kicking ass it's okay to call a chick a big ol' lesbo, right? nothing wrong with it a pussy lapping dyke she's a good fighter

you love pussy, I love pussy. Liz loves pussy. We're on her team. We're on team pussy. She can't wrestle, but you should see her box. Whoa! I knew one was coming. It just took some time. I did shoulders on it again too, Joe. You son of a bitch.

You son of a bitch. Yeah, this January 20 or December 20. I did it again. 29th. December 29th card. This is a good fucking card. It's Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez, Tim Bosch versus Costa Philippou.

Okay, so that means that, oh, okay. Overeem is not on that card. Overeem is on the February Super Bowl card. That's a crazy fucking card. He's fighting Bigfoot Silva. That's Jose Aldo versus Frankie Edgar, too. Rematch. Oh, son.

I like Aldo. Dude, this is a sick card. Jose Aldo versus Frankie Edgar. Alistair Overeem versus Bigfoot. Rashad Evans versus Little Nog. And John Fitch versus Damian Maia. Holy shit. That's a Super Bowl card?

Yeah, if they don't get hurt. That's the deal, though. Please, nobody hurt. Aldo reminds me of Gamboa. Does he? To me, he's like the MMA Gamboa. Why do you say that? They look similar and they both have that fucking crazy third world mentality

you know what i mean cuban like yeah that cuban islander yeah but you know aldo is obviously brazilian right there's an intensity that people have they come from extreme poverty that's pretty hard to match yeah and you know that their shit is not bravado it's fucking real yeah yeah you can match it a little bit with hard work and discipline and just being focused and trying to win, but there's like a fucking real worry that you have when you're not sure where your food comes from that's hard to fuck with.

Exactly. That's all. Like Roberto Duran. Duran was so great. Grew up in utter poverty. They just walked through you. Yeah. He was really ready to kill you.

They have nothing else to compare it to. Ready to kill you. And everything you have is soft to them. Yeah, he was really ready to kill you. They have nothing else to compare it to. Ready to kill you. And everything you have is soft to them. Yeah, you soft bitch. Yeah, everything you do is soft to them. Whatever happened to Big Country? Big Country's fighting this weekend. Big Country's fighting Matt Mitrione.

Big fan of Big Country. He's a bad motherfucker. He's a tough son of a bitch. I love that fucking dude. Yeah, he's fighting Matt Mitrione this weekend. This weekend is the finals of the Ultimate Fighter. So the main guys are going to compete, and then there's a couple of undercard fights as well.

And the main event is Mitrione. It was supposed to be him versus Shane Carwin, but Shane Carwin got injured again, fucked up his knee, and Mitrione stepped in. I remember I texted Mir after he fought Nelson. I said, good fight. He goes, that son of a bitch wouldn't go down. He goes, I know. My knee is paying the price for it still. Dude, no one has a

chin like Roy Nelson. He's an animal. He's ridiculous. What's his record? Like 15 and 15 or something like that? You can beat him. You're just not going to beat him. Exactly. There's a lot of good fights on that undercard too. A bunch of good fights. There's a big one is Pat Barry

versus Shane Del Rosario. That's a crazy fight, man. Shane Del Rosario is a Muay Thai champion, world Muay Thai champion and Pat Barry is, you know, one of the best kickboxers

in MMA. And that fight is going to be crazy. And the way Barry's been fighting lately, you know he's going to go after him. Who won the ultimate

fighter then this year? Or who's in the final for that then? The final fight is between Smith and Ricci. Those are the two guys that made it to the finals. Apparently,

that's what... You know what? No. I'm sorry. Those guys are not. I don't think that's true because they don't tell you yet because I think it has to air this week. Oh. I might be wrong. I have to find out who's... I don't know if it's been set.

I haven't seen this week's episode, so I'm not sure. But they're hard to find this season. The shows are hard to find? I have not been able to label it down for... I mean, lock it down for when the fuck it's on. I don't watch anything when it's on. Everything I watch is on a DVR now. You going to sneeze?

I was about to. About to. I kept it together. Left, left. A lot of discipline. I was looking for a light to stare in. Isn't that a weird thing? You're almost sneezing.

I was literally looking around for a fucking light. The DVR is the most incredible invention of all time. It is. I never watch anything when it comes out. Sit through their bullshit commercials. Bitch. The fuck. My fucking DVR is full of that, what is it called?

That universe show that fucking Morgan Freeman hosts. Through the Wormhole. Yeah, Through the Wormhole. I love that. It's all full of that shit. I have 20 of those in my DVR. Yeah, and it's almost, I'm like, fuck, I got to delete some. That and Louie.

I don't delete Through the Wormhole, dude. Just because if I come home baked from a show and I want almost, I'm like, fuck, I've got to delete some. That and Louie. I don't delete through the wormhole, dude. Just because if I come home baked from a show and I want to fucking blow my mind, I'll sit there, I'll watch through the wormhole, and then I'll go right to the isolation tank. That's my strategy. Just think about shit. Just freak out. Just go in there and break shit down.

Freak out. Have you done that yet, isolation tank? No. You need to do that. Where is it? You have one. I have one. What you done that yet? Isolation tank? No. You need to do that. Where is it? You have one. I have one. What's up with that?

You could rent one. You know, you can go to the float lab in Venice. They have a place you can go and I think it's like 40 bucks. How long do you need to be in isolation for? Just an hour is great. First of all, even if you just want it just for relaxing, one hour is fine. You know, I'll do it sometimes in an hour during the day. I don't even trip out.

I just go in there and relax. Explain it to me, though, because I'm ignorant to it. An isolation tank is filled with water. The water is heated to the same temperature as the surface of your skin, and there's 800 to 1,000 pounds of salt in the water, depending on how big the tank is. I just got a new one. The new one's 1,000 now. It used to be 800 pounds of salt water, but this on how big the tank is. I just got a new one. The new one's 1,000 now.

It used to be 800 pounds of salt water, but this one has more water in it. Is this like the kind of amount of salt where you float? Yes. There's so much salt in it that you lie in it. You're completely buoyant. You bob up and down like a bobber. And once you relax, you don't feel the water because the water is the same temperature as your skin. And just for relaxing, like there's never a time where you're that relaxed, where you have that much tension relieved from your body.

It's an excellent source of magnesium because your skin actually absorbs magnesium from the epsom salts. And it's one of the best ways to get magnesium into your body. So it's the equivalent to being in the Dead Sea. Something like that. Something like that, but it's way trippier because you're in total silence.

You close the lid on this thing. You're in total darkness. You don't see anything. You don't feel anything. You don't hear anything. trippier because you're in total silence. You close the lid on this thing. You're in total darkness. You don't see anything. You don't feel anything. You don't hear anything. And it feels like you're flying. So your brain has no sensory input. Nothing's coming in.

No signals. Like right now, we're sitting down. There's a signal from your ass that's feeling the chair. It's saying, man, Rogan and Red Band should get some fucking better chairs than this bitch. They make my back sweat. Yeah. We're going to work on it. We're going to get something better. It's just the leather. Should we get some fucking better chairs than this bitch. They make my back sweat. Yeah, we're going to work on it. We're going to get something better. It's just the leather.

Should we get those Aeron chairs? Are those the shit? Those Herman Mayer chairs? Those seem like they're good. They give you some air. We got some good ones from the Office Depot for the other studio, but we've got to replace these. There's some Activator in the back of my...

An Activator? Like some Jerry Curl type shit? Activator? I don't know who you had on. See, you're in the hip-hop world. Most people would not know what the fuck you meant by Activator, like some Jerry Curl type shit. Activator. I don't know who you had on. See, you're in the hip-hop world. Most people would not know what the fuck you meant by Activator unless they maybe saw, what was that, The Last Dragon, Shogun of Harlem.

Shogun. Bruce Leroy. Bruce Leroy, yeah. Yeah, Bruce Leroy. What happened to that kid, Bruce Leroy? Still fighting. Still doing well. He's very good, man.

He's getting better all the time, too. So there's that fight this weekend. Pat Del Rosario. Then there's Jamie Varner versus Melvin Gillard. That's a great fucking fight. Melvin's on a hit mystery. He's won the past two now, right? Yes. You know, Melvin is super physically talented.

But, you know, he's a bit of a wild child. And it's a fucking tough game, man. He's lost some fights. He lost the last fight to Cerrone. But he's fighting tough guys. You fight tough guys. You win some, you lose some. The way he knocked out Evan Dunham was fucking stunning.

That shows you what Gallard can do at his best. At his best, Gallard is one of the most dangerous guys at 155. He always reminds me because of the, I always get him confused with fucking another short, stocky black guy who used to have blonde hair. Short, stocky black guy who used to have blonde hair.

Hmm. Melvin Gallard? No? No, there was another guy who looked just like him. He had big fucking thighs. Kevin Randleman? Yeah, that's who I was going to say. Oh He had big fucking thighs Kevin Randleman? Yeah that's who I was going to say Oh yeah well Kevin Randleman was way bigger man Randleman was the UFC heavyweight champion But they look similar

I mean not you know but they're Yeah Wasn't Randleman the champion? I know he fought for the title I don't think he became champion He fought for the title He didn't win it right? I don't think he won

Was the title up for grabs? Right A lot of people thought he should have won that fight And then he got staffed right? Yeah Have a title up for grabs. Right. A lot of people thought he should have won that fight. And then he got staffed, right? Yeah. Have you ever seen those pictures? Yeah, it's disgusting.

You've gotten it before. Pull those pictures up. You never had staff like this. Kevin Randleman let that staff go for a couple of years, it looks like. You've never seen staff like this. This is the craziest shit ever. You could see through his skin to the actual muscle tissue. He had giant holes in his skin. Yeah, it's the nuttiest shit ever.

You could die from that shit. Fuck, yeah, you could. I know somebody's in the hospital right now because he has staph in his stomach or something like that. Really? Dude, staph is scary as fuck. Yeah, but this is disgusting. Check this out.

Check it out. Check these photos out. Ah, that's disgusting. Look at that. He had a hole. Oh, what the fuck? His staph created a hole. When the fuck? His staff created a hole. When he lifted his arm up, you could see through his fucking skin.

You know you got a hole when there's a shadow in your fucking staff infection. I mean, I don't even know how you fix something like that. How do they even fix something like that? That's so terrifying. That shit eats your body away, man. You could put your wallet in there. You could put your dick in there. You could put your dick in there. That's a heel?

Is that staph too? That's a heel? Oh my god. Fuck me in the eye. I gotta go have dinner with the family after this. Staph is a terrifying fucking thing. Staph is fucked.

Yeah, that MRSA stuff, that's what's really scary. People are taking antibiotics and they don't finish their cycle. And so the bacteria that remains that survives the assault by the antibiotics becomes super powered it's like extra strong because it's resisting being poisoned so it develops into a stronger strain and so then people get it and the antibiotics don't work on it because it's a strain that's become resistant to antibiotics.

That's right. So these poor fucking people, they get it. They're doomed. I mean, you're in a life-or-death struggle, which should be easily cleared up by antibiotics. Yeah. It's insanity we're living in. It's the human world we're living in, my friend.

It is the human world. It's insane. So you get the knife and start carving. It's true. You could carve it. Carve it out? Chop it right out? Yeah, but carve it out. Chop it right out. Yeah, but then it happens.

Get a melon scoop. You have an open wound. That stuff is probably systemic by then. Any sort of infection that you have, it's going to go to that. That's the problem with staff, I believe, especially when it gets systemic. You can get it again. Shit's not good. Yeah, it's not good.

So when you play with Travis Barker, are you playing at the same time with him while he drums? Travis Barker? I'm just laughing at the segue there, Red Band. I'm just getting all these people telling me, like, talk more about DJing. Listen, don't listen to them ever. As a fan of Master Mike, I also...

Ask questions you want, but please don't ask questions because you wrote it on Twitter. No, that's a question I asked. Because I see that you have some shows coming up in San Francisco with Travis Barker, and I think he's a great drummer. Yeah, we teamed up a couple months back, and rest in peace to DJ AM. That was their original thing. They released a mixtape with that before. So Travis would play the drums and DJ AM would.

That's kind of an interesting style of doing it, like combining mixing with live music. It's awesome. So when he passed, he called me up. He was like, I couldn't think of any other DJ and would love to take you on tour. And we went on tour together, opened up for Lil Wayne and got this bus.

He actually bought a tour bus now. So we can go and do whatever the fuck we want. We have two shows. We have residencies in Vegas. So we do shows twice a month. What's it like hanging out with Lil Wayne? Crazy. Please tell me.

Fucking crazy. What is it like hanging out with Lil Wayne? I mean Please tell me. Fucking crazy. What is it like hanging out with Lil Wayne? I mean, you saw his deposition, right? Yes, I loved it. The deposition was hilarious. You know he can't save you.

You know he can't save you. Whoa, I love it. What is it like hanging out with him? Well, if you can get past like 20 people to get to him, then, you know,

I guess it's worth it. He's like really like, I don't know. I think he's on this mushroom skateboard thing. Mushroom skateboard thing? Yeah. What do you mean? He's just switching off all the time. You know what I mean?

Really? Like he does like different shit? He's into different things? Yeah, it's kind of confusing because you're this gangster, hip hop rapper, but then you got all this tight stuff on and you're skateboarding. Tight stuff?

Tight pants. He wears those jeggings. I you're skateboarding. Tight stuff? Tight pants. He wears those jeggings. I don't get it. Nothing against it, Wayne. You know what I mean? It's a look, whatever. Are you criticizing Lil Wayne's look? I'm feeling confused here.

Yeah. I don't understand the jeggings and then the sagging. I'm like, if it's that tight, it's like leggings, but they're jeans. Oh, I don't like those. Those skinny jeans.

Yeah, but the worst, they're like fucking, it's almost like, fucking, yeah, it's almost Oh, I don't like those. Those skinny jeans. Yeah, but at worst, they're like fucking... It's almost like... Bugs. Yeah, it's almost like leotards with no feet. Yeah, I can't wear those. When I say I don't like those, that's not for me. But if you got little skinny legs, it's kind of a look.

I hate when I see people that are even... You can't be even slightly out of shape and wear that. Right, well, that's why you hate them. Yeah, because I'm like, well, I can't wear it. That's like showing off your skinniness, for sure. Flaunting it,

in fact. But my dude is definitely under the influence of something. Of something. This is a statement, but my dude is definitely under the influence

of something. It's a combination of some shit. I don't know, because like... Do you think that he's, I mean, he's constantly got to create new raps and shit and constantly performing and touring you know he probably wants to make shit up constantly just to keep his mind fresh and keep new ideas entering

into it of course and i think that's when that is he ever gonna learn how to play that guitar you know what i don't know i don't know i don't even know he had a guitar he used to walk with a guitar all the time yeah He never fucking played it. That was his kid. Oh, that's awesome. Really? And so if you weren't confused. Really?

He used to do that? Yes. What the fuck is that about? Yeah. It's like walking around with boxing gloves on and not going out of fun. Yeah, that's right. Like, what are you doing, bitch? I became a big fan of his when he did that deposition.

That was awesome. It was ridiculous. It was great. Because he was responding to some nonsense way of talking that this guy had roped him into with his system. I mean, that's what a deposition is.

They talk to you legal. They ask you these silly questions. Is your name in fact... You know what his fucking name is. He's right in front of you. What kind of stupid question is that? He ended up losing that case. Did he?

Really? That was the one against QD3, right? What kind of stupid question is that? He ended up losing that case. Did he? Really? Yeah. That was the one against QD3, right? Yeah, that's right. What was the case about? What was it about? Quincy Jones' son was doing a documentary on him. And you made music with him, right?

Yeah. And what happened? What went wrong? I think it was about the rights to use the music, or he didn't like how he was going to be represented in the documentary. Oh, yeah. So he was trying to block it,

and then he had to give the deposition but he lost. Oh well, bitch. He does look like a gremlin though. Let's be honest. X-A-E-T. Listen to him. 2008.

I don't recall. Do you recall that in the summer of 2007 you were arrested in New York City following a performance at the Beacon Theater. I don't recall that. Do you recall that police in New York City discovered a .40 caliber pistol on you, on your person? I don't recall that either. do you recall that in late 2009 you pleaded guilty to attempted criminal possession of a weapon i don't recall that i'd like to get it to the point where he says that you can't save you following the end of 2009 i don't know this is it i think this is

just as i recall about eight months island yeah this clip i think is just his I recall. This clip I think is just his all his I don't recall. Oh, it's an edited version. We don't need to see it. Here's the funny one. Well, that's not the question. What's your name? Pete Ross.

That's a stupid ass question. You just saw me on there giving an interview with her. Okay. So that was you. Did you perform at the Virgin Mobile Music Fest in 2008 with Kanye West? I don't know, but I know I did perform at this badass bitch birthday party recently. She was crazy stupid thick. Isn't it something that you would remember if your album, The Carter III, was the biggest selling album of the year in 2008?

Isn't it something that I would remember that? Yes. Isn't that a that I would remember that? Yes. Isn't that a personal opinion type question? A personal opinion type question? What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, how do you know what a guy would remember? What if his memory sucks?

How can you prove what someone's memory is like? There's some shit that I generally don't remember. I've met people, bro. I've met people that I know I met before but I cannot remember and I probably had a good time hanging out with them.

Like, hey dude, what's up buddy? How are you? Friend? I pretend I know everybody when I meet them just in case. Just in case.

I always do, yeah. Just in case. Oh yeah, you do. But memory is fucking faulty as shit. It is fucked up. So that's why Reagan got away

with that shit during the contrara hearings. Remember with the did you sell weapons to Iran? It's like, fuck, I don't remember. I really don't remember. You can get away with that too

when you get old. Yeah. Damn. Just not feeling so I don't remember. Not feeling so good with the memory. Exactly. But if Reagan had been on AlphaBrain

then his shit would be suspect. Russell Peters checking his Twitter. Checking the Twitter, seeing what they're saying. They're saying you fucking suck, dude. It's out of your bullshit. It's true. They want to live your life. They're a little angry at you.

Get it together, Russell. They're sick of listening to me instead of Mixmaster Mike. Is that what people are saying, that? The real DJ talk, you know it all. Listen, only a cunt would do that to you. Only a cunt would send that. Maybe to think it. Okay, I can see somebody thinking it.

But to say it, to actually say it to you, you're responding only to cunts. I don't respond. Even if they have a good point. Why read it? Why let them in? That's when you unfile. Yeah. Unfile.

Block them. No, you've got to block them. I do block people like that. Block those bitches. I block and report a spam usually. Oh, that's good too. You got to block. I do block people like that. I block those bitches. I block and report a spam usually. If you don't. Oh, that's good too. Because if you don't do that, you're going to have, you know, you're just going to be inundated by assholes.

Especially if you're one of those guys that only responds to the assholes. Then you got a problem. That's true. Dana White does a really good job of that. He's ridiculous. Comical. It's comedy for him. He loves doing that.

He gets crazy. I don't understand that shit. I think it's silly. But he likes it. It's like, it's fun for him. Whatever. Joe. I don't understand that shit. I think it's silly. But he likes it. It's like, it's fun for him. Whatever. Joe, I got a question for you. Okay, Mike.

On Fear Factor, do you actually have say on what they eat? Like? Me? Yeah. No, I'm going to say. Oh, you have no say. If it was up to me, they would have never had to eat Donkey Kong and we'd still be doing it. Did it get taken off already?

Yeah, yeah, it's done. Donkey Kong? I'm actually happy it got taken off, but if it was up to me, they would have never had to do that. I would have said that's a lot. There's a couple times, there's a lot of crazy shit they did on that show, but I was down with almost all of it except twice. There's two times. One, where they had to ride bulls. I thought that was ridiculous.

I thought that was a crazy idea. Actual bulls? Yeah, actual bulls. And two, they had to ride bulls i thought that was ridiculous i thought that was a crazy idea actual bulls yeah actual bulls and two they had a drink come i'm like that shit seems wrong bull bull bull cum semen's wrong donkey donkey cum and donkey urine donkey wow yeah yeah it's actually cows urine it was cows urine donkey cum for what for 50 g's if no a shot at winning 50 g's that's a shot yeah if we gave them 50 grand just for drinking Donkey Kong, that would at least make sense. Yeah, right, right, right. That is nutty. But that was what, I mean, we did 148 episodes during the first run,

and I think we did like seven or something, maybe eight, during the second run. But that was, out of all those episodes, there was only twice where I was like get the fuck out of here this is crazy and the Donkey Kong and the bulls

were the two riding a bull is just ridiculous that is just a mechanical bull I can go with even a mechanical bull you can get fucked up

but a real bull but there ain't no pillows for your fall yeah real bulls the way they launch you through the air man like you do not

want to be a part of that you can do it yeah you can do it if you're a bad motherfucker if you're some Donald Cowboy Cerrone type dude. You're like fucking getting, you know, flying through the air because you just rode a bull. He calls that Thursday night. Yeah, exactly. You can survive that shit. But the reality is that's a risk where the reward is not worth it.

First of all, you're not going to win. Everybody gets thrown. Nobody has ever ridden a bull to eternity. You get on that bitch and you got a few seconds. Nobody's tamed one. That's right. If you're a bad motherfucker, you can last for eight seconds. Just think of how ridiculous that is.

Even ten seconds is a bar that's way too high. Most people can't do it. So they give them eight for the pros. Fucking pro only has eight seconds. That's a stupid. Gosh, they get on the show. What? How long did they have to stay on the show?

On the show, it was the people who lasted the longest. That's what it was. And what was the longest? Oh, not long. Six seconds, five seconds. Just luck. It was just like he, you know, he just, he just, he just jumping up. It's not like a method to his madness.

He's just going crazy. And if you judge it right, like the first time, then you don't have to recover for the second time. And you get an extra second, depending on. But I don't think people did it more than a few seconds. They didn't have the horns, did they? Yeah, the horns are capped, though. They have a little cap on the horns. But the bottom line is the stomping is what you really have to worry about.

Even when we put chest plates on them and helmets, you don't want to get stomped on the head by a bull when you're wearing a helmet, okay? Because I don't know how much it's really going to protect your fucking skull. You could easily get a cracked skull while you're wearing a helmet and a bull stomps on you. And they're just getting launched, launched through the air. There was a girl who was 98 pounds, this tiny little girl, and she got on the bull, they opened the gate,

and the bull with the first buck just sent her flying off like a pillow. Bang! And she landed like flat on her back, and she got all the first buck just sent her flying off like a pillow. Bang. And she landed like flat on her back. And she got all the wind knocked out of her and everything. I was like, you guys are crazy. This is such a stupid, stupid, stupid thing to make people do. But when you have a whole bunch of people, like say if you're doing a show like that, what happens is you got like 12 people there, right? And say one of them is totally in charge, and the other ones are in charge of creating the stunt the other one is the network and they all get

together what do you think well i think we can do it you think we do it then you bring the stunt guy over well you know we've done it i've done it they can do it and then and then no there's no voice of reason there should be one guy who's like the voice of reason well all this guy does he has no vested interest in the show he just does yoga all day and you know reads books and you come to him and hey man we're thinking of doing this. The guy goes, no! You go, okay. We went to the Voice of Reason. We were getting a little carried away.

We almost had him drink cum. Because me, man. I can barely get chicks to swallow my own cum. I refuse to believe that. I think there's chicks lining up to gobble your goo. There's the hit and misses. The funny thing on the show, the girl's got a choice between cum and I think there's chicks lining up to gobble your goo. There's the hit and misses, you know?

Well, the funny thing is about on the show, the girls got a choice between cum and piss, and girls were choosing cum over piss. They were like, it seems like it'd be easier to do. Like, wow. In Europe, it would be piss. Yeah. And shit.

What? You're talking about German. Oh, German. When you were there, I think you saw too much With that 400,000 seat show No I'm Yeah I mean Yeah German porn Will turn you off porn If that's the first porn you see

Have you ever done DJing With like a full band Like a rock band I mean instead of Just like drums Like with Travis Have you ever done it With other assorted instruments

Yeah I've done it With Tommy Lee Oh yeah Yeah But he's Again though Just drums right Just drums me and him But have you've done it with Tommy Lee. Oh, yeah? Yeah. But he's, again though, just drums, right? Just drums, me and him.

But have you ever done it with other musical instruments like guitars and other shit? No, it's just... Saxophone, something crazy? No, it's kind of boring.

It's kind of boring? Really? Why is that? I mean, it's just... It's just too traditional, you know what I mean? Oh, really? Yeah, for me,

I mean, you know, bands do their thing. I kind of like them. I like for them to shine on their own. But you could have like a guy doing a guitar solo, and then you copy his cuts, like with the cut or something. Yeah, for me, I got all these instruments, and I try to mimic them, so it's just like. Do you get into any other type of music other than DJ music or hip-hop?

Yeah. What kind of shit do you do? Indian shit. Indian shit, shit thanks buddy Indian Bollywood shit look at this got half an Indian right here next to you

I'm a full one rub his face Indian he's lucky as shit what kind of Indian music Bollywood Ravi Shankar do you like

Dollar Mende yeah that Tunak Tunak Tunak Tunak you know that song the happy Indian guy do you know that song I don't know the song but I've seen the guy I? Tunak Tunak? You know that song? The Happy Indian guy? Do you know that song?

I don't know the song, but I've seen the guy. I know which song. Brian, pull that song up. Tunak, I think it's called Tunak Tunak. Just type in Dollar Mende. Yeah, Dollar Mende. D-A-H-L-E-R-M-E-N-D-I. Tunak. Just cut.

T-U-N-A-K. Yeah, Dollar Mende. Dollar Mende. D-A-H-L-E-R-M-E-D-I. Or D-A-H-L-E-R M-E-D-I Or M-E-D-I Or H-I M-E-H-D-I That's it

I call this guy The original Gungumstone And yeah And Tunak T-U-N-A-K Space Tune He's a bad motherfucker

Dude This is a He's the happiest guy And you gotta see him And he's doing this whole thing The video is fantastic Cause the video is him With this crazy turban on, and he's fucking dancing up a storm.

This is all before he got busted with white slavery, by the way. He was involved in some sort of fucking slave trade operation. Really? Yeah, something shady went down, or he got framed. But have you found it, Brian? No. I'm looking at it right now. D-A-L-E-R, space. M-E-N-D- it right now. D-A-L-E-R space.

M-E-N-D-A-I. M-E-N-D-H. Brian's still high from this joint we gave him yesterday. Yesterday, yeah. M-E-H-N-D-I. Tune, no, tune. Listen to this. Sunrise over a beautiful Indian city

showing you all the majesty and the architecture that is Bombay that looks like Punjab now look it's like fucking asteroids

coming to space the Arcturians and one of them is him holy shit check this guy out the Arturians and one of them is him check this guy out he's appearing everywhere in different clothes from different asteroids And he's dancing and singing to himself.

And he's a fat fuck. He's got a big fat ass round face. This is not... Looks like Ahmed Ahmed. Sculpted Justin Bieber type. Look at his gut. And he's lovable though. He's plump and lovable. I gotta get it for you.

I have a Dollar Mandy doll. Oh, no, you don't. In Toronto. I can see that at my mom's house or in one of my boxes in the house. Look at his dancing.

It's so ridiculous. They made dolls of him and you pushed the button and his arms started moving and stuff. It was amazing. I love this song. I was obsessed with this song for a couple of weeks.

He and Gangnam Style should definitely team up. Do you think so? Duet like Ebony and Ivory. Don't you think that... Isn't that guy... He's successful enough on his own. I don't think he needs to bring Dollar Mendy into the mix. Unfortunately, Dollar never really caught on.

Not in the wide masses. He could have easily been... He was huge in India. Unfortunately, Dollar never really caught on. Not in the wide masses. Yeah, he could have easily been like... He was huge in India. Yeah, that's like just as good. Yeah, that's like still a billion people that like you. As Gangnam Style? At least a billion people still like you.

Yeah, but isn't he in trouble? Didn't he get in trouble? I don't know. I never heard that. Yeah, there's something happened to him, man. Did you work on the sound from Way Out?

The in sound from Way Out? Did you work on that album? No, I didn in sound from Way Out? Did you work on that album? No, I didn't work on that album. That was such an interesting album because it's a complete instrumental album. And I actually didn't think I was going to like it, but I love that album. And it introduced me to a lot of different artists

that were similar, like Medesky, Martin, and Wood, and things like that. Did you enjoy that album? Of course, it was one of my favorites. We played a lot of it live. Wow. Yeah, it was awesome. That's one of the few CDs

that I still always have in my CD collection because that's always a great CD just to throw in if you have people over. Exactly, it's timeless. It's not so in your face. Do the BC boys, the remaining members, have a plan? Do they know what they're going to do now? They're just laying low right now.

Right. Doing benefits, trying to help the situation. The family. Trying to help the situation over in New Jersey and New York. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. The Sandy, Hurricane Sandy benefits. Yeah, yeah.

They're doing that right now. Do they live there? They live in Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. Were you, Hurricane Sandy benefits. Yeah, they're doing that right now. Do they live there? They live in Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. Were you there for that? I wasn't. No, I was on this side.

Must be some crazy shit. It was some crazy shit to see New Jersey and the boardwalk just gone. Yeah, it's weird to see those photos of the foundations of the houses. Dude, I mean, you don't see that shit here in America. It's like, wow. Yeah. Well, we haven't really been around that long that's what's really hilarious we have this idea of like what the weather does but it's only based on like a couple hundred years of people writing shit down it's true you get more than three or four hundred years ago like who the fuck knows what happened exactly yeah you get like a couple of thousand years ago when regarding

weather all you have is ice core samples. And that gives you sort of a good idea if you dig holes in the right place, but you don't really know about like hurricanes and shit.

It's hard to know what kind of damage. You can't tell about the exterior. Yeah. They know how cold it gets. They know how hot it got. They know certain storms,

but there's storms that have happened that have just wiped out and completely changed entire ecosystems. One storm, boom, everything's dead. We're lucky. We'll know after the 21st.

What we really have to worry about is not even storms. What we really have to worry about is volcanoes and asteroids. Those are the two big ones. We haven't experienced either one of those. Yeah, and that whole alignment is coming too, right? Yeah, dude, we're all going to die. No, I don't think that alignment is, I don't think that's, I think that's all bullshit.

Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, according to astronomers or, you know, like, what's his name, Neil deGrasse Tyson, he says that

it happens like on a regular basis. Like this alignment, like it's, what people are calling this alignment with the center of the galaxy, it's really just

a misunderstanding. They don't really know what they're talking about and it's sort of repeating some shit a misunderstanding. They don't really know what they're talking about. And it's sort of repeating some shit that somebody else said that doesn't know what they're talking about. And it's like, it's the same sort of doom and gloom mentality that led people to think that Y2K was going to kill us all. Exactly, yeah.

Because if there's no fucking electricity, you're going to have a hard time doing shows. Because it's really hard to do shows as a DJ without electricity. I mean, you could have a fucking acoustic show show you could do stand-up comedy through a toilet paper roll you have a beatboxer yeah what the fuck do you do you have to mouth your scratches air scratcher yeah I mean solar flare you can have to get solar you can have that solar power the solar power DJ equipment you need to come up with a cut called a solar flare yeah what would that be like well there's a flare and then I say oh there's a flare I would cause the solar power dj equipment you need to come up with a cut called a solar flare what would that be like well there's a flare and then there's oh there's a flare i would cause the

solar flare you would cause the solar flare there's a two-click flare what is a flare how do you do a flare a flare is when you move the fader like a millisecond off to cut the sound off in the middle it's definitely got to be displayed in person, but there's certain scratches that put together in there. They work differently. Him and his crew created those. Who's the baddest motherfucker in DJing ever? Zero consensus?

Is it you? Is it Mixmaster Mike? Yeah. Are you the baddest motherfucker in DJing ever? He's not even blinking. I have to say, it was more of a, how dare you ask me that question. Well, I don't know.

That's what I would say. That's his way of saying there should be no question. Who's like your number one rival, if that's the case? My number one rival? Yeah, like a guy out there who keeps you on your toes. Was my partner, DJ Qbert. And he was kind of like the other side. I mean, when I first showed him the scratch,

he turned into a monster. And then we used to battle and go at it. He beat me once, I beat him once in a big battle. Do you think that scratching and this type of using records and shit is a transitionary art form? Because, like, if everything goes digital and everything goes from, you know, like, state mediums to to non-existent do you think that this it'll be like actually considered an instrument soon in the future i think it should already be considered it should yeah the way certain people

play it yeah because you really are playing it much like look you use a guitar to make certain sounds you didn't like create the the guitar. You use the same strings that everybody else uses, it creates a certain sound. And putting it all together is what makes it beautiful. Then taking music that somebody else made with a guitar and it's on a record and then turning it into something completely different. And recreating it. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think of when you hear real obvious samples samples though like like uh can't touch this like obviously rick james super freak you know like um vanilla ice ice ice baby obviously under pressure you

know it's like there's there's something that happens when you have a song where it's like you're taking some classic hit and then morphing it it's like you kind of cheat a little well the beauty of it is to you to be a ninja about it and smash it and... Where people don't even know it. Yeah, obliterate it. We played some shit. Russell pulled out some things that we didn't even know.

What was it that you did that to? Was it It Takes Two to Make a Thing Go Right? What was it? No, some song you played. That's from... Yeah. It was like the beat. I was like, that's from...

I can't remember what it was. He picks out like two or three things that were smooshed up together. You guys have like educated ears, sort of like a sommelier can tell wines. Joe, you know you have a connection to DJ Qbert. You do, Joe. Oh, yeah?

Yeah, he actually was the one that does the Run DMT shirts. Really? He makes those? Yeah. That's hilarious. Has he tricked you into doing DMT yet? Tr? You make those? Yeah. That's hilarious. Has he tricked you into doing DMT yet? Tricked me?

No, not you, Mike. Do you know what DMT is? There were thoughts. There were thoughts of doing it. There were thoughts. Have you seen that? Oh, yeah. The guitar QFO?

What are you talking about? This guy, Qbert, his old partner, made a turntable that had a mixer built into it. And it was called a QFO. Oh. And then some guy took the QFO and built it onto a guitar neck and everything. Oh, wow. Where is it? Let me show them the picture.

That's what the picture. That's Qbert actually on it. Oh, wow. It's funny because I went with Qbert that day to go see the thing. So I was there videotaping him cutting on it and stuff. Qbert created that Run DMT shirt, Brian? Yeah, he sells them on his store. So I'm guessing that's him.

I don't know where I bought it from. I bought it from somewhere online. I don't know if I bought it from his store. I think he's the one that created it. That's fascinating. What do you think about DMT, Joe? How's your experiences? How do i begin any crazy patterns from the other side uh well what did it you know it's the most potent psychedelic known

to man yeah basically it's like right up there this is a few other ones that rival it salvia divinorum is pretty potent and uh so is a five methoxy dmt that's pretty potent too it's actually even more potent i think gram for gram than and dimethyltryptamine which is the visual effects dmt it's pretty life-changing shit man yeah just to know that it's possible just knowing that it's possible it sort of like really puts your your first of all your understanding of the universe into perspective. Because you go through your life, and as you're experiencing life and doing things and traveling and meeting people and going places, you're formulating a database of possibilities.

Like, these are all the possible people that I can meet. These are the possible scenarios. Oh my God, I'm in front of 14,000 people. This is a possible event. Who would have thought? And you accumulate all these different experiences and you put them into your view of the world. Then you do something like DMT. And DMT is so strange and so gigantic and so impactful and odd and impossible to describe. And using any words to try to piece together the experience of a full-blown DMT trip is ridiculous. It's a waste of time.

It's inadequate. The words exist to describe experiences that everybody has in common, whether it's large groups of people, whether it's life or death or violence. Those words to describe DMT do not exist. And you have no frame of reference for them. You have no point of reference if you haven't experienced it. And that's weird to know that there's something that's so different from regular life that if you take it once, you never look at regular life the same way again because the possibilities have now changed because you know that a dmt trip is possible because i would have before i did dmt i would have never imagined that that was available and that if it was available it wasn't something that

was being discussed on the front page of the new york times every fucking day where scientists scientists were getting together with world leaders and trying to figure out what it means, what it's doing, what it does to you, why it changes your life. How much would it benefit people to have this experience? Should it be regulated? Should it be understood? Should it be encouraged? Like what should we do with this stuff? Instead, it was like a secret. And instead, the trippiest thing about it was what I

would talk about it and I would do like videos about it and then people would go what the fuck are you talking I never even heard about this I'm like how is it possible that you're learning about one of the craziest things that any human being has ever experienced ever and you're learning about it from me like how is it possible that no one's talking about this didn't make any sense I didn't understand it and then you find out that your own brain makes it. And then you find out that it's also in a million different kinds of plants. And then you find out that it's super illegal. And it's like, what is going on with our laws?

What is going on with our system of government where one of the most life-changing experiences you could ever possibly have, and it's illegal. Like, you can go to jail for it like it's absolutely massively beneficial to thousands and thousands if not millions of people and it's illegal we're in a we're being run by madness that's what dmt lets me know dmt lets me know that we are our system of government the system that we're born into, is just fucking madness. The system of trying to stop people from doing shit

that you don't understand and you've never experienced, that's madness. Just that alone that opened me up to that. To forget about what I've learned or what I felt when I was having the DMT trip. Just the fact that someone who has never experienced it

tries to keep it from you. Someone who doesn't understand it and has never actually had it is trying to tell you what it is and trying to regulate it and trying to keep other people from doing it. That just shows you how crazy we are. Can you function when you're on it? No. No, you don't exist.

It's the only drug I think that I've ever heard of or taken other than, again, salvia. It was supposed to be very debilitating too. Your eyes are closed. Yeah. Yeah, you close your eyes, you take it, and you just fucking vanish into another world. You literally go into a fairy world. You go into this weird world of extreme lights and colors that shouldn't be able to exist.

And patterns and logos and shit. Yeah. What is it? What's the craziest thing you've ever experienced? Craziest shit? Craziest psychedelics, anything? Oh, fuck. Mushrooms.

Just straight mushroom caps. Drinking orange juice with it. Yeah. And waiting for UFOs to come. And they might come, too. And I actually saw some UFOs to come. And they might come, too. And I actually saw some UFOs. I got my turntables out and was scratching. I was on one.

You were on a UFO while you were scratching? I wanted to be. You wanted to be? Yeah. Fuck yeah. Maybe if you just took a couple more grams, you would have been in it. Fire in the sky. Well, that's the thing about those

hallucinations they're so goddamn strong like the hallucinations that you have while you're on any sort of visionary plant like mushrooms when you take like a large dose of them it's almost like is this a different have i tapped into a different reality am i actually here and when i go back to regular reality and I sober up, does that mean that this never happened? Or is it that this does happen but it only happens

when you're on mushrooms? But it is real. It is real. Yeah, it feels real. It feels real. It is real. I don't think regular people who have never tripped

really truly understand that sentiment. It seems like something that is impossible to describe. Because when you come back, it's just so still and so odd and weird like yeah what just happened is it still with me no it's quiet right now and i'm looking and i'm like okay i'm gonna go in my refrigerator get some breakfast the weird thing is just no having the knowledge that that's available

you know yeah and russell you didn't drink at all until you were 31 you're pretty straight That's the weird thing is just having the knowledge that that's available. You know? Yeah. And Russell, you didn't drink at all until you were 31. You're pretty straight-legged. You don't fuck with anything, huh? No, just alcohol. You ever get a contact tie from hanging around people like me? I think I did once. I just watched TV.

We hotboxed Greg Fitzsimmons in here once. Did you? Yeah. Sent that motherfucker on stage in a delirium. Nice. Yeah, I don't, I've never been in anything that's really,

I've been curious about or anything. What if you met a hot chick and she said she smoked weed and it made her horny? Nah. Really? Yeah.

You know what, I have tried it. Yeah. And I didn't like it. What didn't you like? I didn't like the coughing, first of all. You ever try a vaporizer

or eating it? I have also done that. I had a brownie once. Yeah, that's good. And I didn't like the coughing, first of all. You ever try a vaporizer or eaten it? I have also done that. I had a brownie once. And I did not like the way I felt. I was literally, literally clinging to the bed. That's not surprising. Space cookies aren't fun. And I did not like that. I was like, I don't want that

again. Yeah, they can do some things to you, man. The body. Change your life. But you like alcohol. I do like alcohol. Not until you were 31. That's true. Just give weed a try. I've tried it, and I didn't really...

I don't like to slow down. Ah. Well, then you need space weed. Yeah. You need weed that makes you want to speed up. Well, I like maintaining at this function, but my brain working a little faster. So then why are you drinking? Because my brain gets slicker when it's drunk.

Really? Yeah. I don't get drunk. I get buzzed. I'm not into getting hammered. But how do you feel like your brain is slicker when it's... Do you feel like you're looser? I'm a silver-tongued devil when I'm drunk.

I fucking... A silver-tongued devil. I'm a Mac when I got some alcohol in me. Really? Holy shit. I'm happy with myself. There's, there's ladies right now that are ready to take up that challenge. Like this, this motherfucker talking shit.

It's true. I'm going to rub up on Russell Peters next time I see him. Would you please? He's very single now. Well, very single and we'll be in Vegas December 29th. Yes, I will be. I'm going to get in on like the 28th so I can go to a punk asses party on the 28th. Where's his party? I don't know. He's got some party on the 29th. Yes, I will be. I'm going to get in on the 28th so I can go to Punk Ass' party on the 28th. Where's his party?

I don't know. He's got some party on the 28th. Are you going to wear tap out clothes or no? No, I can't do that. I've told him, hey man, congratulations, but I can't wear that shit. You can wear a Kangol hat though. I can wear a Kangol hat. Kangol never went out of style.

They never went commercial. No. They did. Kangol's official. Yeah, it's official. It's like Adidas. It never goes out of style. They never went commercial. No. They did. Kangol's official. Yeah, it's official. It's like Adidas. It never goes out of style. No, it doesn't.

Yeah, it's become a brand, a trustworthy longtime brand. How come Von Dutch never figured that out? They couldn't keep it together. Because Von Dutch morphed into Ed Hardy, didn't he? They couldn't keep it together either. And then Ed Hardy morphed into fucking... You know what? Like Von Dutch and Ed Hardy were both like Krispy Kreme donuts.

It's like you gorge. You don't just have one. You go crazy. And then you flood the market. And then it's over. And then people are sick of it. And then affliction came in, right? Yeah.

It all went bad after that. I was never... As you could see, I just buy fucking five packs of Hanes V-necks and I'm a happy man. Yeah. It's like the most comfortable shirt ever, right? Yeah. And then they're disposable. You know, they get a little off-cut, discolored.

Fucking throw them out. You're an animal. Or clean your house with them. You know, Dom Herrera doesn't ever pack socks or underwear. He just goes to a town and then buys socks and underwear and throws them out. That's ridiculous. That's mean. You gangster.

I can't do that. I can't do that. Well, Charlie Murphy gets new shoes every time he goes on stage. No, that's Eddie Griffin. Does he? I think Charlie Murphy does it too, man. Yeah, Eddie Griffin gets white Air Force Ones every show. Really?

And it's every show. If it's a two-show night, you get two pairs. Come on, son. That's ridiculous. That seems a little dated now that you want the Air Force Ones. What have you been paying attention to this Cat Williams meltdown? I don't know. I think there's a pool as to when he's going to end it all.

You think? Yeah. What's Doug Stanhope's numbers? What's he got? I don't know. I think there's a pool as to when he's going to end it all. You think? Yeah. What's Doug Stanhope's numbers? What's he got? I wonder. Yeah, Stanhope has him in the celebrity death pool.

He has his own website now, his own betting website or something like Doug Stanhope does, I think. Does he? I think somebody told me that. Silly bitch.

What's he mad at? I don't know. Cat Williams? He's mad at everybody. He's been slapping people. He's smacking motherfuckers. Didn't he hit somebody with a microphone the other night?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's smacking people. Like audience members in just squares now. He's not even hitting like... He went hit somebody with a microphone the other night? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's smacking people. Like audience members in just squares now. He's not even hitting like... He went to Target and just hit the cashier. He hit his assistant, allegedly. I don't think it's alleged anymore. He hit a dude that works for Live Nation, allegedly.

And he's hanging around with Suge Knight. So Suge's probably like a pit bull right now. Even Suge Knight's just like, Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with you? You know, it's sad for me to hear. There's the end video. Here's him just talking to a Target employee.

And then, like, the guy has his hands on his chest too. So you know he's not like, being threatening him or anything. Sorry, Mr. Williams. I'm a big fan.

Yeah. And then, bam, slaps right on the face. And the guy just slowly pulls out his phone and calls the police while Kat just stares at him. Well, back that up again. Let me see that again. Let me see that again.

Well, back that up. Well, it's a security camera. That's why it's so small, right? See, he's... Kat's not much bigger than that. And then, bam. And it was a hard slap. There's better videos out there and then then he just stands there and watches him for a while and then he just rolls off in one of those uh handicap

cart uh okay thanks see that's drugs when you hit those are not good drugs that's drugs yeah he's on a bad trip right now dude yeah that's like uh he's he's on a bender you know it's you gotta be real careful when you're talking to a guy like that. They do irrational shit. It's unfortunate because if you go back to his early work, his stand-up work, I think he's hilarious. I love watching that guy. Yeah, the Pimp Chronicles.

Yeah, he's so funny, man. He's so good. He was so funny. I hate to see someone who was really good spiraling like that. Yeah, spiraling bad hard worse than anybody we've ever seen worse than martin lawrence when martin just ran into traffic that was it do you have a gun on him something like that well yeah no i didn't the cat had a gun cats been caught cats been caught with a lot of things like what is it about entertainers bro i don't know

you know 14 years of the b boys, you must know some shit. Too much. Too much all at once. Too much all at once? Whatever it is. They seem to have mellowed out as they got older, though. Whatever you need. Oh, hello, Mr. Schwartz. Come check into your room.

Whatever you need. I'm telling you, whatever you need. Is that what it is? It's like that. Whatever you need. They give me that look. Whatever you need. You need time?

So is it just that you're the one calling all your shots? Yeah. You have access to everything. Definitely. What's the nuttiest shit you ever saw on the road? The nuttiest shit? The nuttiest shit. Like 50 fucking girls showing up with a bowling bag full of coke.

Like what's the nuttiest shit you ever saw? Oh, the nuttiest shit. Well, I did have a girl come and run up to the stage and bite me on my neck what she she did real smooth like though she was like hey mike how are you doing i i got this record i want you to start how hard she bite you pretty hard she kind of like she was trying to take a piece of meat off yeah it was up i was like wow okay did you her and forget about it did you her like in 1960 or something? Punch her? No.

One of those girls who's been stewing since high school. This motherfucker fingered me in the back of a car. I don't want to be that guy, but I got to go. Let's end this, bitch. Where are you going? I got to go meet my daughter for dinner. They're already at the restaurant. Oh, you beautiful bastard.

Listen, Mike, thank you very much for coming on. Of course, Joe. If people want to get a hold of your Your iPad app What is it called again? It's called Mixmaster Mike Wheels of Steel And that's W-H-E-E-L-Z And if you go to

MixmasterMike.com Is that where they can Find the link to your new album? Yes Tomorrow And you can download it For free Download it for free

I love it I love it I'm gonna download that shit I'm gonna listen to it This weekend on the way to Vegas Yes Thank you very much For coming on man

We appreciate the fuck out of it. Yes. And if you want to follow Mike on Twitter, it is Mix Master Mike with the I is a one. Yes. So M1X Master and the next I is also a one. M1KE. You figure it out, bitch. Just take away the I's and put in ones.

Okay? Mix Master Mike. And if you want to spell Russell P's name correctly, it's two S's and two L's. And you go to the real Russell P on Twitter. What's your Twitter, dude? At Mark Rasta. M-A-R-K-R-A-S-T-A. If you want to throw some pussy Mark's way, he will either take it or not.

I'm just going to tell you right now. I'm going to deflect to Russell since he's the single guy. You're not single? Russell, please. All the shit that's going his way, I want you to deflect it. Yes, and also follow Copeland Entertainment.

That's C-O-P-E-L-A-N-D underscore E-N-T. And also follow Redban. R-E-D-B-A-N. And if you don't follow me by now, how dare you? Joe, we should also say that Skullcandy, we're wearing his McMaster Mike's Skullcandy headphones. They're great headphones. We love these headphones. Yeah, we didn't even know.

When Mike came here, he gave me the ones that I'm wearing here, our special McMaster Mike versions of the headphones that he created. It's funny because the Skullcandy guys have been sending us these. We use them both here and at our other studio. They're dope. We love them. We use them for all our podcasts now. So there you go. Free plug, Skullcandy.

We don't give a fuck. We ain't really in this for the money, bitch. Word. Sort of. How do we give one of these bitches away? Like, this is a special. Well, you're going to have to figure out how to fucking send that shit because we're not going to get around to doing it.

You know, Mike, I don't have any headphones. Yeah, that's what you do. You give it away to Russell Peters. Russell. There you go. Damn, Steve. Wow, this is awesome. I'm going to give it to Russell Peters.

I do need new headphones. This will work out really well. Once we develop a proper infrastructure... And I'm going to get the hate tweet started now. They're like, fucking, you can buy your own asshole. There you go, my homie. Folks. These are dope.

The odds of you getting it, let's be realistic. They're probably a fucking million to one. So Russell got it. Accept it. Deal with it. Move the fuck on. God damn it. Is that Desquad stickers?

It's Triple M stickers. Oh, nice. Just some stickers. Mix Master Mike stickers. Sweet, thanks. Beautiful. Beautiful. Powerful Mixmaster mic stickers

You're not going to be in San Diego tomorrow I cannot make it But you will be with Jason Tebe Sarah Tiana Tony Hinchcliffe And Billy Bunnell That's a great show And it's at a really hot club

That American Comedy Company is a sweet club It's like the perfect dimensions for a comedy club it's tomorrow night what's the tickets it's at American Comedy Code dot com and tomorrow I'm going to give away 20 tickets buy

one get one freeze tomorrow oh Jesus so check Twitter for that Twitter for that all right you dirty fucks thanks everybody for tuning into the podcast we will be back tomorrow

with the great Dom motherfucking I Rara Ah, my buddy. And Sunday afternoon. It's going to be afternoon now. It's not night. Sunday at 4 o'clock with Dennis McKenna. All right. Sunday at 4.

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about the comedy show if you didn't pay attention all the information go to death squad dot TV and if you want to go to the end of the world party with Doug Stanhope honey honey Joey Diaz and me

there's only I think a hundred tickets left that's at the Wiltern December 21st 2012 when the Mayan calendar comes to the end of the long count and the shit hits the fan. Or not. All right.

We'll see you fucks tomorrow. Thank you. Bye-bye. See ya. Keep it together, bitch. Thank you.