The Joe Rogan Experience - #31 - Jason "Mayhem" Miller

Episode Date: July 20, 2010

Joe sits down with Mayhem Miller.

Zam, ladies and gentlemen, we are live, goddammit. We are live with the man, Jason Mayhem Miller. Yes, I am. Of Strikeforce fame. Well. Of Bully Beatdown fame. Oh, Bully Beatdown fame for sure, man. I can't go anywhere because of that.

Well, of Strikeforce fame too, man. You fought for the fucking title. Yeah, that's true. But, you know, like, Strikeforce is in the process of building. Like, I can feel them, like, getting the ball rolling. Before we even talk, we have to thank our sponsor. We're sponsored by the Fleshlight. Fleshlight.com.

I'll be taking all my... That's the butthole version. I think that's... What other version is there, Joe? There's a mouth version and a vajayjay version. Now, do the mouths come in different races? Dude, that's a fucking excellent point. Because I was saying, how come there's no black ones?

Because all the vaginas are pink. If you go to the website, we've got to talk to them about that. And the funny thing is the dude who hooked us up, the dude who started this whole deal, our friend Chris, seems like he's of mixed heritage. Right? Doesn't he? He seems like he's got a bunch of things going on. So you're saying that his mom would probably be. A little bit of black, a little bit of white.

Someone's had some black something somewhere along the line. Let's represent. He's a spiritual traveler. You can tell by just talking to that guy. He's a cool dude. I can't believe he doesn't have Indian dick. We're going to have him on the podcast if he'll do it. I like that guy a lot.

Who actually makes the molds? They make them out of girls' vaginas. Like porno stars. They literally mold their vagina like the outside. They stick a flashlight up in her and take a mold of it. No, but there's one. I guess they put something on it and they make an impression of it. No, but there's one. No, they like put, I guess they put something on it, you know, and they make an impression of it. Yeah, but not every

one of those is an official vagina. There's like, or maybe there's just some fat chick who's got her vagina. She's like some designer. She went to art school for three years and then she goes, puts the stuff on there like, now everybody will get some of this. My point about the flesh has always been, it does not have to look like a vagina

because I'm not looking at it. I'm just shoving it on my dick. You know what? I got a free fake vagina one time. But you stare at it while you're fucking it. Like, wow, that looks like a real vagina. There's no way you're going to be turned on if it was a real vagina. Okay, why is it by itself?

Where's its fucking body? You know what I mean? That's creepy. Have you just fucking a vagina like someone took an apple cord or some chick and just pulled it off and that's what you're We're talking personality-wise. Most chicks that I've ever dated are pretty much just a vagina. I just see that part of it. Oh, you've had some cool chicks.

Well, yeah, that's true. But I've gone through a rash of psychopaths. Well, that's the lifestyle, though. That's how you're living. You're a fucking wild man, like professional. There's a lot of people out there claiming wild man. Jason Mayhem Miller is a real fucking wild man, all right? I can't help it.

Just shut the fuck up. You're talking about a dude who, as long as I've known him, has been living in hotels. He doesn't even, he's never, he's just got a fucking house. Now he has to because he's a goddamn TV star. Yeah, well, I have to just because, like, I feel like when you're, like, I'm damn near 30. Like, I better, like, buy a house. Well, you're a just because I feel like I'm damn near 30. I better buy a house.

Well, you're a TV star now, man. You're a legit TV star. You're the host of Bully Fucking Beatdown. That's true. That's a giant show, man. That is a popular fucking show. That should turn into a cultural thing. I'm just waiting to get made fun of.

I'm like, please, somebody Saturday Night Live, somebody make fun of this because it's getting there. It'll happen. It should. I mean look they can do that to Anthony Bourdain they can do that to you do you go to any

MTV parties where you have to hang out with the Hills nah they don't let me around those guys and they separate me from Jersey Shore dudes

I really think they separate you but you might smack them around yeah I might be like and then I'll just ruin my career because I'll be beating up Spencer Pratt this is the thing about Mayhem.

I've known Mayhem for a long time now, and Mayhem is one of the coolest guys I've ever met. He's a down dude. He's totally straight. You never know. There's no guessing where you're coming from with Mayhem. But that said, homie's got to switch. And every now and then, he just decides to hit it. Skybar. Skybar. Remember exactly what I was talking about. We got to talk about this. We were at the Skybar. He's got a switch. And every now and then, he just decides to hit it.

Skybar. Skybar. Remember exactly what I was talking about. We got to talk about it. We were at the Skybar. This is classic mayhem. And granted, this is years ago before he had matured. You were very young back then. You know what it was?

You were like 22. I got bored so easily. Yeah. Well, you get crazy. You get hyped. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's what makes you a great fighter. But when you got hyped, we're at the Sky Sky Bar and we're just having a good fucking time.

All right. We got a buzz on. We're laughing and telling jokes. It's like mayhem. And Brian is there. And Ari was there. No, it's just me and you and mayhem. I think there was one other guy.

No, no, no. Because I remember me and you hid around the corner and was like, oh my God, what the fuck happened? I thought we had one other dude with us. All right. Let's get back to the story. Ari wasn't there? No, no. It was just me and you.

Okay. Anyway, bottom line. Okay, say it's all just us three. So we're having a great time, laughing our asses off, and Mayhem gets hyped and decides to skydive on this bed filled with people drinking. All right. These people, they have these, like, the way Skybar is pretty dope. It's got this killer view, right?

It's at the Mondrian. It's got this killer view, and they have these beds laying around, and people just chill on these beds, they lie down and drink well these people are just lying down feet up hard day at work you know i'm saying all girls all girls let me tell the story okay you got the you got the basics rogan told his version here's my version in my head okay i'm standing there we already been to skybor the day before i went with you the day before and i had a blast like it was like girl this time it was like some people there but it wasn't popping off right we were talking to having a good time but it wasn't like it wasn't like the hollywood

party that you that you imagine right and i'd never been to hollywood that was like my first time okay so i wanted the hollywood party I was like, where's all the hot bitches? You know, like, what, what is this? So, but you know, you guys are used to it. So you were like, whatever me, I was getting bored. Like I was like, man, where's the chicks yesterday where I was talking to chicks. And then I'm looking around. I'm like, and then as I'm looking around, there's a lull in our conversation.

I look over and there's a hot chick and she's looking at me from the bench. Now, be it, I was on the second level of this little area and we're sitting there talking. There's a lull in our conversation. I looked back at that chick. She was smiling. Something in my head said, Jason, she wants you to jump on there. Now, I have extensive experience jumping on a couch. I had a little sister all growing up. I could run and jump perfect and land perfect on the couch. As I ran and jumped, in midair, I went, damn, this is a bad idea. Like, why did I do this?

But too late. I could not take it back. So I jump and smash into all these hot chicks, like model chicks, and like a bunch of rich dudes wearing Rolexes. One guy with spiky hair. He had the faux hawk before people had faux hawks. And I smashed it, knocked the drinks everywhere, and whatever. And, man, I popped up like Bruce Lee, like jumped back up like, whoa.

And I was like, that was stupid. I saw the bouncers running, and I just went, I know, I know. I'm sorry. I know, I know. And then, so this is my first Hollywood thing, and I was hanging out with the famous Joe Rogan, and I was like, damn, Joe Rogan's going to hate me, man. Joe Rogan's going to hate me. My phone rang, and I saw Joe Rogan, and I was like, oh, God. I answered the phone, and he's like, you were laughing so hard that I was like oh cool it's cool

that was awesome you gotta know the difference between someone who's capable of doing crazy shit but is a cool dude and someone who's just fucking crazy and annoying there's a huge difference and you're just a dude who's a cool dude who will do some crazy

shit but you get labeled in with the other group all the time. You get underestimated, in my opinion. And it was really funny, as a fighter as well, the EA game, they put you at a really low skill level. Really? It was a fucking hilarious video.

No, no, no. That's on the internet. There's a hilarious video of him on the internet punking the EA guys. He pretends that he's fucking pissed off because they put him in a low level of skill. No way. He looks so good. Never saw that. Dude, it's so good.

Find it on YouTube. Google it. What is it? Do you know the name of the video? I don't know. Oh, just Mayhem EA Sports. Mayhem Punk's EA Sports. Freak out or whatever.

Mayhem Freak Out. Something like that. It's on the message board, too. Okay, here it is. Let's listen to it right now. Half a million views or something. Super quick. Here it is. Let's listen to it right now. message board too okay here it is super quick so just talk us through this for the people a lot of people just listen to this on itunes this is the setup whole deal we went to ea so obviously you know we went to ea sports and it I'm actually

Actually one of the this developer is in on this joke, okay, so you're doing so so if you notice in this video Here goes he now he starts realizing he Let me show you a few more. He's realizing his character's a low skill level now. Man, me daughters. As realistic as we can. You know, what's the greatest? Watch the acting. Yo, man, what the fuck, bro? Here it goes.

Arm submission. What? What? What? What? What? What? Foot speed.

What's wrong? No, yo, who's in charge of this fucking thing, man? See, watch the build up. Tell me what's wrong? You're the one who told me to do this. I need my coach. Yo, you told me to do this. No disrespect. No disrespect. I'm just f***ing with you.

There was this one dude who was talking who was really, he sounded really freaked out. When you got violent and physical, he wasn't in on it. No, no. Oh, my bad. No, no, he wasn't in on it. Because that was real. There was like the whole floor of people came to the door, and everyone was like acting like they were going to do something.

I'm like, whoa. Listen to that guy's voice. Can you rewind it to that one spot where that one guy wigs? This guy, this is some primal dude you got to listen to his voice that the terror in his voice arm signature what's wrong listen for the no no no go back to my physical yo no it's a bull man no Listen for the dude. No, no, no. Go back to my shit. Yo, no, it's fucking bullshit, man. No, man.

You're fucking, that's what you think? That's what you fucking think? You're fucking laughing? You think it's fucked? Hey, motherfucker. Hey, man. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That guy.

That guy. No. That guy. That guy sounds like a dude who's getting attacked by a bear. Scared, yeah. Well, you know, I mean, and I never think about it, you know? And I have no, like, fear of physical altercation. Yeah, talking to him. I'm sorry you know, and I have no, like, fear of physical altercation. Yeah, talking to them.

Oh, sorry. Is that bad? Yeah. I have no fear of physical altercation. So to me, like, I'm like, okay, whatever. It's a dude, you know? Like, and I don't really think about the consequences anyway. Like, I'm like, well, if I get beat up, I get beat up, you know?

Did you think, well, the designer wasn't going to beat you up. No, I know. I mean, he wouldn't even attempt that because you're mad at him for that. Like, yeah, you think my game sucks? Fuck you. Like, what, you think he was going to attack you? That's ridiculous. No, you had no dogs in that race. No worries.

That was very funny, though. That was very funny. I'm glad you enjoyed my web video, Joe Rogan. I enjoyed the shit out of it, Mayhem Miller. I enjoyed the shit out of it. Now, we can't have you on without talking about that strike force brawl oh yeah that is the most ridiculous shit i have ever seen on television this is one of the problems and we talked about it on the show right after it happened with uh

organizations that they don't have enough experience yet there's little things they haven't covered little things like watching the doors like you can't just let anybody in and the ufc knows that so they have people watching the doors. Like, you can't just let anybody in. And the UFC knows that, so they have people watching the doors. Oh, yeah, it's like trying to get into the cage of the UFC, man. Yeah, but there's just like a little hole missing in their game. And the hole missing was you got to watch the door. You can't just let anybody in the cage. Yeah, yeah.

They just fucked up. Well, you know, and I thought it was an appropriate time to get in the cage. Oh, yeah, this is smart. I was like, yeah, for sure. What's the worst that could happen? Well, the worst that happened, so. Well, it wouldn't have been bad. It wouldn't have been bad.

What happened was you came in, and you, like, interrupted in the middle of his speech. Yeah, no, no. Here's how that went. He looked at you. I saw what happened. He looked at you. You guys made eye contact, and then you just went with it. Yeah, well, because it was, like, awkward at that point

because I didn't mean to step into his frame. And then he looked back at me, and me and Shields kind of had made peace already because we were both cutting weight at the same time, and we were in the same area, and we both were like, ugh. And we're like, we kind of looked at each other like, yeah, we're doing it again. Like, what's up, dog? Like that. Like, we were like, all right, it's cool. Yeah yeah you beat me in that last fight give me another shot now i'll you know i'll

kick your ass next time you know there's mutual respect i respect him he respects me and and and so we kind of made our peace and at the way in we still were cool we're like what up then i won my fight and knocked the guy out which this would make a lot more sense if on the video i mean on the cbs broadcast they showed my fight, but they had five 25-minute fights and went over their time slot. Anyway. They went way, way, way, way, way over their time slot. They went over by like over an hour, right?

Wow, an hour? That's just bad planning right there. Again, you know, they're just new at the MMA game. It's a new thing for them. Anyway, so i go in there and i didn't mean to step in the frame i stepped in the frame with oh whoops i'm already and he noticed me at that same moment i was like well i gotta talk now right and he because he asked me well you want your rematch now and i was like he said that off the off the mic and i went yeah

where's my rematch buddy whoops because then i just proceeded to get stocked and dogpiled. And the funniest part is, is imagine if I just won a fight and my camp was in there, okay, my crew. If we jumped on somebody, they would be fucking hurt. I got up like, ha, ha, ha, oh, my God. Like, I didn't even get hurt on that. How did I not even get hurt? You know, like, I was shocked god I didn't even get hurt on that How did I not even get hurt? I was shocked, I didn't even have a scratch on me And during the little scram

I shot a double leg on somebody Because I was like, man, let me just take someone to the ground And then I can probably get my way out of this Because I was thinking At this moment When you fight, and my adrenaline had already been pumped up Earlier that night I wasn't even hyped when that was happening I was like, whoa, and my adrenaline had already been pumped up earlier that night, I wasn't even hyped when that was happening.

I was like, whoa, oh, my God. And I get on the bottom of a dog pile, and I'm like, oh, I'm getting jumped on national television right now. You're getting kicked in the head. And I didn't feel that. And then as I'm thinking in my head, man, I'm getting jumped on national television, the freaking idiot Gus Johnson goes, gentlemen, this is national television. I'm like, ha ha, no shit.

Yeah, what's up with that dude? That dude is hard. He, to me, is like... He's the best commentator in the fucking... Hey, you're entitled to your opinion, sir. You're damn right. You know what? Joe Rogan got nothing.

Mike Chiavello, are you fucking kidding me? That guy's Australian. Gus Johnson, all day. He sounds like a dude who's in a mold. He just fits into a mold and starts talking like a sports guy. I think Mayhem just got me pregnant. I wrote a preface for a book that's kind of like a college textbook. It's a great book.

It's – I can't remember. About what? Anyway, it's about the mentality of fighters, and he did case studies with all interviews with – Gus Johnson did this? No, no, no. Not Gus Johnson. What are you talking about, son? How is that guy going to write?

A friend of mine, he wrote this book. What's the book called? I don't know. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's coming to me. It's too complicated. What's the book called? I don't know. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's coming to me. It's too complicated. That's the problem.

If it was just like fighting or fighting in art. You know, it was about – it's actually, you know, a good book. I don't know. Look it up, Red Band. You know how to do that. So I should write book in Google and what else? Fighting. No, Mayhem Preface.

I'm sure it's on Amazon or something like that. Mayhem Preface. I'm sure it's on Amazon or something like that. Mayhem Preface is on Amazon? You never know, man. Yeah, you never know. Anyway, I wrote this thing where at the beginning and I drew the parallel.

Oh, but... Mascot. Oh, is my cat in there, man? Probably. Oh, dude. Hot Dog, come here. We have technical difficulties with the wiener dog.

Come on, Hot Dog Dog. Yeah, you got my cats in the room. Everybody? My cats hide in the closet, and the wiener dog found them. Oh. We got goddamn problems. What kind of a fucking professional studio is this? Yeah, but I had the...

Buddy, you can't go down there. Come on, get her. Hey. I'm going to fucking kill you, little mother... Ladies and gentlemen, we apologize for this disturbance. mid-story. No, but I,

you know, it's got to be a pretty big coincidence if he just, he just. Sorry, guys. You know, turn my level up.

I like to yell. Like this? Yo, yo. Yo. Check it out. I'm on the Rogan podcast, son. That's how I hold it. But,

we are the whitest podcast. So, anyway, for the people who haven't seen this, this is what happened. What? There was a, That doesn't know how I hold it. So anyway, for the people who haven't seen this, this is what happened. The fight is over. There's a lot of people that... Google number one for two days in a row. There's people that listen to this podcast that don't know shit about MMA. Oh, my bad. There's most of the people that listen to this podcast, I would say probably 50% at least are MMA fans. Life fear factor, I know.

I love it too. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. Comedy fans. They're more comedy fans. I know. People driving to work. Just for the people who are not MMA fans, we just have to clean it.

Look, he's going there again. Get her. Get over here. This is very distracting. Anyway, sorry. Why don't you guys talk for a second? I'm going to shut this door. Yeah, please, shut the door.

By the way, remember that couch story story we were talking about the Sky Bar? Yeah, yeah. I remember that. That was like my first month in L.A. Oh, really? And it was like my first time at an L.A. bar. And then I meet you. And then when that happened, I just remember it turned into bullet time where I just see

girls like fucking glasses of wine going everywhere. I like to call that saving private Ryan vision. Like you're like looking around. Everything is in black and white in slow motion. Yeah, and then I ran around the corner, and me and Joe hid from you. Oh, cool. No, man, I knew it was going down. In midair, in midair, I'm like, damn, I'm an idiot, man.

I do stupid shit all the time, but this is really stupid. I was like, man, I finally have a famous friend in my entire life, and I tell him to fuck off that quick. Did you see Inception? Oh, not yet. Everybody says it's awesome. Do you see it, Joe? Hold on.

We got to keep talking. Hold on a second before we change gears. I know you're ready. I'm going to go see it tonight, though, for sure. Do it. We're not done talking about Strike Force. No, I know. Because you know why?

Partially because at Red Band tweeted, like, man, he was stroking himself while he was writing this review. Like, 140 characters of oh inception oh god before before we get before we get so rude we got to go back to this so strike force thing before your dog tried to kill my cat sorry we had issues we got a fucking wild kingdom going on up in this bitch um so the the strike force thing so for the people who haven't seen it this is what happens one guy wins and this guy who won jake shields mayhem and jake shields had fought in the past very close decision as a matter of fact at the end of the second round was the second or the third i don't know at the end of the second or third he had him locked up

in a rear naked choke homeboy was going to sleep there was the only reason i didn't hold him after the bell was because my last fight i illegally kicked jock ray in his head yeah and i was like oh i don't want to get the everybody hates me because I'm a dirty-ass fighter. So I didn't even hold on to it beyond the bell because I was like, I'll get him the next round. He would have went to sleep. He was a couple seconds away from going to sleep.

It was dead locked on. Anyway, so the point is they had a big, very close fight. It was exciting. And Mayhem doesn't feel like he did his best, which no fighter ever does. So he wanted to have this rematch. So when Jake Shields won in a big victory over Dan Henderson, Mayhem says, well, this is a good way to hype this fight up. This would be a big name

fight. You know, I'm Mayhem Miller from MTV and Bully Beatdown, and we're on fucking CBS right now. I'm a famous MMA guy. You're a famous MMA guy. You just had a huge victory. Let's make some money. Yeah. Let's make some fucking money.

Hell yeah. That's exactly what I was thinking. That's exact. Let's get fucking, come on, let's get crazy. Come on, let's hype this up. You going to get mad at me? But the problem is everybody took it street. Everybody went goofy.

Like, come on, man. You guys have to have some sort of an understanding that there's a certain amount of shit you should be able to talk before you throw down because it's good for business. Yeah. It's good for business. What's not good for business is punting people in the head when you're down. Just, I understand where you're coming from. You want to back up your boy, but you can't do that on TV. You got to realize that a lot of this disrespect and the shit talking, it's not real.

Okay. It's a little bit. A little bit. Like I said, me and him are in the damn locker room. We suffer together. There's reality. The reality is you know it was a great fight. The reality is you know you would like to get back in there.

And the reality is you know you think you can beat him. You came close to tapping him. So there's a lot of real hype to it. But there's always respect. All the bullshit and the shit talking and everything like that, what people have to understand is that makes you money. That sells the fucking fights. That's a big, big thing.

Like, Rashad and Rampage, man, if neither one of those guys said a word to each other, there wouldn't have been half the emotion. Two black guys fighting. Who cares? But I'm just saying, they hyped it up. Yes, they made money. They were talking smack. And there was some realistic.

Yes, there's some reality to it, but they kept their shit together. They got so close on that Ultimate Fighter show, man, when they got in each other's face and they were like touching noses. You want me to tell a story? In Australia, I'm friends with both guys. I'm friends with both those dudes. As am I. Because they're cool guys.

They're both great guys. And I grew up with Rampage, basically. When I moved to California in my damn van, I lived in the parking lot down the street from his house and would drive to go pick him up to take him to another gym to train every day we hung out every day in which one conversation that he remembers i went man you should be mr t on on the a team wow and then he started spitting that. I pity the fool. I don't know what's going on. Like that. And I was like, oh, my. See?

I told you. And then magic mayhem five, eight years later. Dude, that's like some law of attraction type shit, son. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, maybe I'm just magic. Joe Rogan. Maybe he's just black. You might be magic, too. Really?

Awesome. Mayhem just blessed me. I think I got some magic. I hear the mayhem bump. Dust on me and shit. Hey, anyway. awesome mayhem just blessed me i think i got some magic on me and shit hey anyway uh so uh we're in australia and those guys are both out there and i'm kind of kicking it with both of them going around to australia's nightlife and uh i'm but i'm kind of hanging out more with rampage i've known him for a way longer and whatever and i kind of you know i haven't seen him we were catching up

and and anyway he uh these guys suddenly i'm in the nightclub with some hot chicks. I'm looking around like, wow, hot chicks. Cool. This is what life's supposed to be, right? And security starts running past me. And I'm like, where's Rampage? And I like looked over at where Rashad was sitting. Where's Rashad?

And I was like, dude, they're not here. And those guys are running. I run down to this little tiny hallway where the bathroom was. And who's standing there face-to-face in this hallway that I could barely fit down? They are face-to-face in this thing. Whoa. Just black guy talking. Like, motherfucker.

All I can hear is motherfucker. Treat me like a bitch. Treat me like a bitch. Treat me like a bitch. Here we go. I was like, oh. And, dude, the hear is motherfucker. Treat me like a bitch. Treat me like a bitch. Treat me like a bitch. Here we go. I was like, oh, and dude, these security is like locked. They know who these guys are. They know what can go down right now.

They're just like, ah, ah. Fuck. Could you imagine being security at a fucking club in Australia? And it's Rashad for Grampage. Sydney, people are cool as fuck. You know, like, yeah, people are nice here. How hard is it to be a bouncer? You know, no big deal.

And then one day, two fucking cage fighters come in. Savage cage fighters. And one of the biggest rivalries in the history of the UFC. And these two guys are in each other's face in your bar. And you got to do something. But, yo, to the rescue, I sprinted down in there, got in between them, and explained to them, in the language that I'm accustomed to, black guy.

Because I talk black guy for sure. You talk black guy? Oh, for sure. Will you give us an exact interpretation of what you said? What do you mean? My normal black guy is just black guy. Like, my formative years were spent with all black guys. Right.

Like, my – from 12 – well, I moved to a less black neighborhood when I was 12. And whatever, it was still – I still hung out with black kids because I was already used to that. Like I was just like – you know, that was just my normal guy. What's it feel like? You know what I mean? Hey, get out of here. So anyway, I get in these guys' face and like, hey, man, let's do this on TV, huh? Why are you guys going to waste it right here?

Because of an international incident. They kind of like broke off and kind of like laughed the fact that I'm screaming about an international incident and disaster averted but like they were serious yeah they were like I was like you guys are really cause couple drinks these guys get fired up well there's the psychological

advantage of not getting the other guy you know not backing down at all is so important to those guys and they understand that I mean it seems stupid and I think it is kind of dumb you know but i understand it 100 and you know look when people get heated into each other's faces and you know and there's this especially with two guys that are about to fight that these little tiny battles are real these little tiny psychological battles like who gets to tell who to go fuck themselves last who gets to say the last word it's like fuck man

we might be here all day I'm not going anywhere I don't get in that world man why would you want to get yourself into that it's true but if you're a cage fighter it's a different situation psychological warfare it's very important

your mindset as opposed to where their mindset is when the fight starts you can fuck someone's head up in the pre-fight but there's a lot of fighters that are also believing just like I love you

no matter what that's all nice and good but everybody's got their own style you can't hate on someone's shit talking style because it really works man there's some there's some shit man

when you get inside someone's head and get them emotional and all riled up and start talking shit about their girlfriend talking shit about their kids talking shit about their girlfriend, talking shit about their kids, talking shit about their life, you start fucking. And look, some people can take it. Some people you talk shit on them and they think it's funny and it doesn't hurt them.

But some guys go crazy. Look at fucking Frank Mir when Brock Lesnar got in Frank Mir's face after he beat the fuck out of him. After he beat his fucking face into the ground to smash him. Then he gets in his face. Talk some fucking shit, man. Well, he used that for motivation, didn't he? That was real, man. That was a real anger.

You know, that guy got fucking furious because of that. It backfired on him, but it works on other guys, man. No, no. What are you talking about, backfired? Well, I mean mean you think that people got sad? No, no, no. I mean as far as his performance. Brock sad!

As far as his performance, all the shit-talking that Frank Mir did, backfired. I just think that shit-talking had nothing to do with it. Brock was going to beat him. He's just bigger and stronger. I agree, but what I'm saying is it didn't do any good and it actually got him more of a beating. You know what I'm saying is it didn't do any good. It actually got him more of a beating. Well, you know, he tried.

You know what I'm saying? And he got really, there was some real violence and anger behind it. I'd rather the guy beat the shit out of me than let me off easy. You know, if I lost, I'd lose. I don't want to like, oh, you hugged me into the damn mat. I want to like. Yeah, did you see the IFC, the Josh Barnett and Geronimo Dos Santos fight? No, no, no, I didn't see it yet.

Quick stoppage, man. I mean, Josh Barnett was crushing him. Don't get me wrong. I mean, it's definitely just. But I was thinking, like, wow, I don't know. I think Brock Lesnar took more shots than this guy. And the guy got up, and he was really pissed, and he protested. He was like, what the fuck?

And granted, Barnett was killing him. Don't get me wrong. Barnett looked awesome. I mean, Barnett's fucking solid. Barnett's solid as fuck. Here's the thing. I love the officiating in the Lesnar fight. Lesnar called him. Let't get me wrong. Barnett looked awesome. I mean, Barnett's fucking solid. Barnett's solid as fuck. Here's the thing. I love the officiating in the Lesnar fight. Lesnar-Carwin. Let him go, right? He didn't know

I'm a super-Carwin fan. I love Carwin. He's the best guy. Look, I'm a fan of anybody who can win. Brock Lesnar showed his character in coming back for that second round, but he took a lot of shots where I was looking at Big John, who I think is the best in the business. I think Big John and Herb Dean are the very best.

But Big John stopped that fight in Australia, and I was like, I wonder who would have stopped the Lesnar fight. People would have stopped it. Yeah, I know. Josh Rosenthal is the shit. That guy is one of the best. Rosenthal. Rosenthal is the shit.

He's a real fan. He trains. He's a brown belt in jiu-jitsu. What about Herb Dean? Herb Dean is the shit. He's my favorite. Herb Dean is stellar. I just like his dreadlocks.

Outstanding. Coolest motherfucker on the planet, too. Both guys are. And, you know, but I don't think either one of those guys would have stopped it. Maybe Herb. Herb might have stopped it. No, I don't think he would have. But somebody might have.

No one from the Matrix is going to stop that. Eva Levine's a great referee, but he might have stopped it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You know what? There's a few. I mean, all I'm trying to get at is that on moments like that, you realize how important a referee really is.

Yeah. So important. The thing is, I don't think it should have been stopped because he was taking a beating for sure. But if you look at the athlete's face, you have to pay attention to their facial expression. If they don't look like they want out of there, why stop it? Right, I agree. I never once can remember. I remember getting my ass kicked a couple times,

getting kicked, and I remember thinking, don't stop this fight. Don't stop it. I'm still here. Don't worry. I'm still here and keeping my face. That sucks, too, because that's an extra thing to think about, right?

Well, yeah, but I just know in my head, don't stop the fight, because I can tell in a couple fights I've been in where I'm like getting my ass whooped. I can tell. I'm like, whoa, I'm getting my ass kicked right now. I got to hurry up and get out of this situation. But at the same time, I'm thinking

don't stop. Please don't stop the fight because I'm still here. Have you talked to the Diaz brothers or Gilbert Melendez or anybody that was involved in the Strikeforce brawl? Yeah, I talked to Melendez and he's cool. Me and Melendez or anybody that was involved in the Strikeforce brawl. Yeah, I talked to Melendez and he's cool. Me and Melendez have been cool and buddies and I was actually kind of friends with Nate Diaz

despite me and Nick never getting along. Do you think you guys can all squash or you don't get along with Nick? Man, fuck Nick Diaz. Wow. Whoa. Strong words. Yeah, I said it. What is your problem with Nick Diaz? You know what? I feel like he was a driving factor in that whole thing. He's the first guy to throw a punch.

He started that whole thing. And it's almost not his fault because he's retarded. But at the same time, he embodies this cultural shift that we had. And it really started with Dr. dre selling us nwa and then and selling us this culture of gangsters is cool right yeah gangster is cool in a way to watch a movie but being gangster is just being a little kid you know what i mean and and starting a big brawl because what i talked some shit to your homie that is just ghetto and that that that thing embodies what's wrong with america right now people don't take it like when they asked about

it i came out and apologized right after that whole thing went down because i was wrong i stepped in the cage but no one stopped me i figured that they won't mind it'll be cool it'll be a cool way to hype right what are you doing and then uh Brian, what are you doing? Come on. What are you doing to the sound, man? You're freaking us out. Sorry. Anyway, so, you know, I got in there. They jump on me.

That's not the proper response. Like, you know, you don't act like a damn savage. We'll be on that. Brian, come on, man. Sorry. I can't remember what I was saying. You interrupted his pattern of thought. Yeah, so, I mean, you had talked to Nick in the past, man. Sorry. I can't remember what I was saying. In the middle of an important speech, you interrupt his pattern of thought. Yeah, so, I mean, you had talked to Nick in the past, though.

You guys worked together and shit. Yeah, you know what the problem was is that Nick, well, after one fight, I did fuck him up pretty good. Because after one of his fights, I was doing the post-fight interview. I'm Jason Mayhem Miller with Nick Diaz. That's usually what I did. I did no setup. It was like a silly interview. It was just a joke. Like, he didn't get the joke Diaz. That's usually what I did. I did no setup. It was like a silly interview. It was just a joke.

He didn't get the joke, though. That's the problem. Right. I was just fucking with him. He's like a serious dude. Yeah. He's like, I ain't nobody's bitch, dude. You know what I mean?

That's how the guy is. Is that surprising? Look, I like Nick Diaz a lot. I'm a big fan of him as a fighter. Yeah, me too. I've always been cool with him as a person. Yeah, me too. No, I thought he was great.

You know, listen. But what is it about him, that whole no fun, no fun in games? I don't know. That's a weird way to live, right? Yeah, because he just is, he's, I don't know, he's just angry with himself. So he just, he takes it out on everyone else. But it's rare that someone is so disciplined. Like, as disciplined as he is.

I mean, Nick Diaz is in tremendous shape. Yeah, yeah. Just running. Yeah. And, you know, his cardio is outstanding. He's a super cardio guy. He works really hard, obviously. He's so good now, too, man.

His last few fights, man, the fucking Scott Smith fight, I was really impressed. Yeah. Frank Shamrock, I was like, God damn. Yeah. He's like, he's fucking putting it together. He's putting it on people. I like to whoop his ass. But as, like, a dude, like, that whole, like, always angry and always fighting, it's, you it together he's putting it on people i like to whoop his ass but but as

like a dude like that whole like always angry and always fighting it's you know it's unfortunate it's an unfortunate way of looking whatever you know that's just the mentality of some people and i think that you know but it's weird you see that in someone who's so good at that yeah well i mean what do you mean you just go to the gym every day yeah but to be smart you there's there's a certain amount of there's a certain amount of power over your mind and over your will. There's a certain amount. You have to have a will, man. Yeah, whatever, dude.

Listen, I got uncles. You have to have a will and discipline to get that good. I got uncles who are dumb as shit who just go to their construction job and work hard as hell every day. It doesn't take that. It's not that hard. No, listen, Nick Diaz might not be like, you might not think

he's the socially most inept guy in the world, but physically, that guy's very intelligent. Look how good his jiu-jitsu is. Look how good he fights. That takes intelligence. It's just,

if he's not, you know, focusing it in other areas, you know, of his life, it doesn't mean that he's not intelligent. There's no doubt that guy,

when you're that good, you're super intelligent. Yeah. It's just, I mean, I understand where it all comes from. I mean, it's like, it's a doubt that guy, when you're that good, you're super intelligent. It's just, I mean, I understand where it all comes from. I mean, it's a programming that you get when you're really young and you think that that's the way to behave and act.

But I think you've got a real good point. You've got a real good point about that culture. I like to have fun and I act wild. I do crazy stuff. But you are always cool to people. I've never seen you picking fights with somebody for no reason. Why? What's the point? Never seen you start arguments for no reason. You've always been cool to people. I've never seen you picking fights with somebody for no reason what's the point never seen you start arguments for no reason you've always been cool

to people i've never seen you bully people or fuck with anybody which is really funny that you wound up getting this anti-bully show yeah no no listen the same job that i'm doing now man i did the same thing all growing up it's so funny that i got because i played this role my entire life because every time there's a big kid picking on a little kid I can remember like three incidents. So you're an anti-bullying. Yeah I would be like because I like to fight. I always liked to fight since

I was three years old. Like I just like my dad was in the army and boxing stuff and he like. So you weren't afraid of it. You wanted to get in there and do it. Yeah I wasn't scared. You talking shit and bullying somebody. Yeah some guy was bullying another little kid i remember walking seeing it going down and he was pushing the little kid around and i was like i remember i like i don't know i guess i was like nine or eight i walked over there and got in between them and then i

beat this kid up but but did you start bullying bullying bully yeah no absolutely because maybe you were bullying oh here's bullying bullies though Yeah. No, absolutely. Maybe you were bullying. Bullying bullies, though, is a very common practice. A lot of righteous people do that. I bullied a bully today using bluetorture.com, my bully in high school. He used to always fuck with me. So what? Fifteen years later, I made a website where I used to take Listerine strips and put them in animals' mouths. But I would Photoshop them have blue lips and stuff like that.

in animals' mouths, but I would Photoshop them have blue lips and stuff like that and PETA or whatever got so pissed off that they're like, we're going to go to this person's house and protest them. So I found my bully's address and made this big flyer that got five new puppies. Going to give them 200 Listerine strips

live on the internet. Stop right now. Don't be admitting this on the internet. What's wrong with you? Stop what you're talking about. No, it's fine. Stop right now. Don't be admitting this on the internet. I know. What's wrong with you? Huh? Stop what you're talking about. No, it's fine. I've already admitted it many times on the internet. Well, not on this fucking podcast.

Nobody else listened to it. Sorry, PETA. Sorry, PETA. Didn't mean to do it. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the guy. Huh? The guy. It doesn't matter.

I got the wrong address. Okay. Well, whose ever address you got. You sent psycho PETA people to some random person's house? Even worse. Dude, let's stop talking. Let's stop talking about this. Jesus Christ, legality.

No, while we're on that subject, tell me, Mayhem, the story of your assistant that did you wrong and justice. Which I think is 100 times worse than what I did. Get out of here. No, it's not, because, dude, you gave away where someone lives. Huh? That's where someone lives. I was just thinking, I got. Get out of here. No, it's not because, dude, you gave away where someone lives. Huh?

That's where someone lives. I was just thinking I got my ex-assistant to address. Yeah, that's where someone sleeps. This is just a phone number. A phone number's

not nearly as bad as the place where you sleep. The rest of the story was what was weird about it is that he was arrested the same week that this happened for torture to an animal.

He left his dog in his house for weeks at a time while he was out doing other bad stuff. And so it just happened at the same week, which made it a million times better. He was out doing other bad stuff? What kind of bad stuff?

The way he speaks is so interesting. Well, I'm trying not to get the guy in trouble or pointed at him. All right, well, we can move on to the subject. Revenge was served, so you don't have to worry. Okay, good. So now we can all sleep knowing that you won't be legally prosecuted. It was weird because actually he was abusing animals the whole time.

It is funny when someone tries to do a scam and gets busted. You know, an interesting story is the guy who, you know, people always ask, hey, can we take a picture where you get me in a choke or I'll get you in a choke? And I say we can't because the UFC specifically tells us we can't because two guys were sued. Chuck was sued and Matt Hughes was sued for taking pictures with dudes. Yeah, but then why did Jim Norton just get choked out the other day on Opium Nathan? It was a video. A video is totally different.

No, no, he's a green. No, no, no. Listen, a video is very obvious what's happening. Okay. And by the way, it's Jim Norton. Jim Norton's not going to sue Randy Couture. Right. These are just random fans that thought they could make some money.

And they pretended that Chuck heard them. They pretended that Matt Hughes heard them. Well, the guy who they pretended Matt Hughes heard them, apparently they investigated this because there was all these people that said, like, come on, man, this is bullshit. Matt's a nice guy. He was taking a picture with you. You asked him to do it.

This guy turned out he was a dirty cop. And they started investigating him and found out some shit, and now he's in jail. Now he's doing a long stretch. He's doing like 10 years or something. You know why? Because Matt Hughes is a Christian and Jesus did it. Jesus fucked that dude in the ass. That's what happened right there. Oh my God. Jesus came down.

That's the worst thing ever said on a podcast. Too bad. Could there be a worse thing to get raped by? Imagine getting raped by Jesus. Ah man, Chivas the Destroyer. That's a way better God to get raped by. So tell us what happened with this. Mayhem Imagine getting raped by Jesus. Ah, man, Chiva the Destroyer. That's a way better guy to get raped by. Chiva's got extra feet and shit, right? Yeah.

So tell us what happened with this. Mayhem is, like I said, one of the nicest guys I know. Totally down, loyal dude. But he had an issue with an employee. What happened? I had the worst assistant ever. Like, literally. I'd be like, Eddie, take a right on Ocean and a right on California, all right? Right on Ocean, right on California.

Let's make up a name for this guy. Yeah, his name is – How about Mike? Is Mike good? No, Mike is my dad's name. Tonya Harding. Tonya Harding. Okay.

No, no, no. Don't say Tonya Harding. Let's just call him Tonya. I'll call him Tonya. I'll be like, Tonya, just take a right on Ocean. Take a right on California. You got it? And he's like, uh-huh, uh-huh.

And my friend goes, it's a big yellow building. So I walk to the building I told him to go to, and I'm waiting for 15 minutes. And I'm like, what the hell? Finally, I call the guy. I'm like, what are you doing? He's just stupid. I'm like, what? Okay, we've established he's very poor at his job.

Okay, so then he comes. But he fucked you over. Let's get on track so then he comes. But he fucked you over. Let's get on track here. I am. This guy fucked you over. I want to set it up so you know what I was dealing with here. Okay. So I keep giving him another chance every time.

I'm like, God. So he can't pay my credit card bill. It takes me two minutes to do it. He has all the information. Still couldn't do it. He can't figure out Travelocity. He booked me an hour away from my family reunion. He's terrible at his job.

Okay? So he then goes to one of my close friends and just lies about everything. Like, it's a girl. Okay. One of your close friends, this guy guy found her information and contacted her. He went, somehow he got her email on an email. I don't know how he did it. He had to be hating.

There's only one reason why a guy does that. A guy goes and talks to a girl and talks shit about you. That's a hater. I know. Don't worry. I'm well aware of that. So, you know, this guy freaking calls her. It just starts making up ridiculous stories. The girl believes it.

Like, she's like, believes it. Totally believes it. And then it's like, totally. I'm like, what the hell? So he says a bunch of bad shit about you. Yeah, a bunch of bad shit about me. You're very emotional. I can understand.

You're having a hard time getting this out. They are. Yeah, they are. Yeah, it's fucking. That sucks, man. Sensitive, sensitive. But anyway. Very sensitive.

This guy fucked you over. Yeah, fucked me over. Finally, I get, that sucks, man. Sensitive, sensitive. But anyway. Very sensitive. This guy fucked you over. Yeah, fucked me over. Finally, I get the story out of her. She tells me why. I'm like, what? Like, he just made all that shit up. Like, really? She bought We Make Up.

She told me all that. I'm like, man, I suffered for like a week or two where she was just giving me the boot. Like, no reason. And I don't know why. And you didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was. And all was just giving me the boot like no reason. And I don't know what. And you didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was. And all of a sudden, the guy that I fired the week before because he's inept at his job. And I was totally cool with him too.

So you had already fired him and then he did all this? I fired him and then he did all this. Oh, I was confused. I thought he did all this while he was working for you. No. Okay. So then, so you fire him. He talks shit about you to this girl he was working for you. No. Okay. So then you fire him. He talks shit about you to this girl that he's probably in love with.

And then what do you do? You put his – Oh, no. I was talking to my friend Dane Cook and I – Name dropped. Totally name. I was talking to my friend Dane Cook about the situation. Well, you were talking on Twitter, right?

On Twitter. And then I accidentally posted that guy's number. Posted his number. Dude, I did that. Then I thought about it. I did that. I did my own number. Posted his number. Dude, I did that. Then I thought about it. I did that. I did my own number. I saw that.

I saw that you did that. So I was like, yeah, call the guy anyway and talk to him. So you thought you were making a direct message to Dane Cook. Yeah. And you were really just Twittering it publicly. Hey, that happens, man. Because Dane needed an assistant. I heard Dane needed an assistant.

I can't figure out how to delete the phone number. Oh, don't worry. There's nice people on Twitter. They'll delete it. Leaking your phone number is so intense. Because that's like something that you have so many, like 100 people that know your phone number. And once you leak that, like Dana White just leaked it on Twitter the other day. You could lose that phone number forever.

I think Dana did with his office number. So they'll change his office number. Oh, that's not bad. But your cell phone? That's pretty huge. Dude, you saw what was going on with my phone. Yeah. I couldn't even turn it on.

You've had that number for a long-ass time. You're going to forget how many people have that number when somebody down the line is trying to reach you. I think that's all good. I think this is pretty. Resetting. Just reaching back and trying to grab ahold of people from the past. Let that shit go, son.

It's kind of fun when you lose a number and you've got to go. I liked it. Now I can't even turn the phone on. I turn the phone on, it just reboots because it gets so many texts because I turn it on like every day. And when I turn it on, I have like 5,000 texts. So it just reboots. That's what happens when you have gazillion.

And I can't use it. I try to make a call or I get calls in on it. I try to answer the call. And while I'm answering the call, it's constant buzz buzz buzz of text coming through buzz buzz Or so what you're saying is people calling you know on the other line and then it reboots Is that red band is basically turning the phone on sitting on it? I'm putting in my flashlight. That's what he likes to do. Haha, but so unfortunately you put this guy's phone number online But I don't think anybody's gonna call it. Oh nobody will call his number, right?

Unfortunately, you put this guy's phone number online, but I don't think anybody's going to call it. Nobody will call his number, right? It's not like it's my phone number. It's not like you're this loved guy and that guy fucked you over. Nobody loves the bully me down guy. I am an official Mayhem Monkey. I'm a member of the cult.

Number 420. That's as cliche as they make it, folks. I had to take it. It's perfect, right? Yeah, bro, come on. Somebody had to be 420. Yeah, Mayhem has a cult called the Mayhem Monkeys. Yeah. I'm down with that shit, son. It's easy.

You know what? I got a Mayhem Monkey t-shirt. I got two of them. I feel like you're at least a general in the Mayhem Monkey army. I mean, at least. I don't know. Wait, prime minister? Well, you know what I'm saying?

How about this? How about I have a cult, you have a cult, and we'll be like fucking favored nations and shit. No, that's who we are. We'll be like allies. That's who we are. We'll be like allies. No, you know why? Because you think about it.

I just want my cult to be people of the same mindset. Right. And you are because we're all monkeys spinning around a rock in space, right? Yes. Yes. I mean, that's what it is. Tubes and tunnels. Huh?

Tubes and tunnels. Yeah. What's tubes and tunnels? That's what we have? Boys have tubes, girls have tunnels I love Brian Brian is a grown man with a beard but he thinks like a 14 year old

I like it I love that personality that's a unique motherfucker did you ever get your mayhem monkeys all together for a roller skating party or anything like that I've done that with the Rogan board members. It's almost

always awesome, but there's almost always one dude that's creepy in real life. One dude that just jacks the party. Remember when we did Houston back in the day? Yeah. Who was a good example of that? There was a couple dudes. I don't remember their names, but I don't know if I did. I wouldn't even say it.

After meeting them, they just drop off the board. They stop coming to the board. And there's been members that wives have found out that they came to these circle jerks. There's been affairs. There's been deaths. I mean, our friend Outlaw, that was a legitimate friend of ours that died. He had a heart attack. He was overweight.

That sucks. Hey, that's a business. You do the rest. Lon is a cool motherfucker. We knew that guy from like 2001 was when we first met him in Houston, right? And he was always on my message board. Just a funny dude. Just a cool dude.

So you can meet cool people off the internet. But the problem is, man, for every cool dude, for every 10 cool dudes, there's one or two just creepy fucks that'll show up for your little thing. Yeah, but that's percentages on the planet.

Come on. Yeah, it's pretty fucking good. I think you get to know people very well from reading the shit they write on the internet. That's why Twitter's awesome because you get to see,

is this person a negative person, positive, funny? You can see through their tweets because they can't help it. They put themselves out there. You know who I love? I love black dudes that give motivational talks. Yeah.

I like that, too. I like that, too. You know Tyrese, that actor? That dude who's always like, women, stand up for yourself, in all caps. Make that man respect you. A baby boy is saying that? Love yourself before someone else will love you, girls. He'll say all this crazy, super positive love pimp shit.

And you know he's just slinging his I'm a good guy game. You know what I mean? It's like his fucking avatar on Twitter is him making out with some chick. The dude is built like a fucking Greek god. He's a movie star. He's a sexy motherfucker. I mean, I don't hate him. I'm not hating, but I find it hilarious when he's talking all this superpower, pro-god, love game.

Like, you can tell when someone's throwing a game. You know what I'm saying? You can tell when someone's real and that's who they are. You can't. But a lot of people are not as bright as you are, Joe Rogan. But isn't it fascinating when you see someone's throwing a game and other people aren't seeing it? Oh, yeah. It's great.

Like Scientology. You know? Like anything like that. Like I had this neighbor who was a cool guy. I still love the guy where I used to live. And he was talking to me about buying this piece of property. And then I said, well, I can't do it right now, but I really want to pick this up because my wife is about to go clear. So I go, what are you talking about? He goes, yeah, well, we're in Scientology because my wife is about to go clear. So I go, what are you talking about?

He goes, yeah, well, we're in Scientology, and she's going to go clear, and it costs $50,000. Otherwise, I would pick this piece of property up. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I go, what is clear? Like, what are you talking about? So I'm just, you know, as a comedian, automatically I want to start laughing at him and mocking him, but then my heckler skills are taking me, give him some rope.

Let's talk here. Let's find out what we got going on here so so i'm i'm listening to him he's telling me that his wife is going to become someone who cannot be influenced by outside forces dude i'm not fucking with you what what did they they get them to the point where nothing negative that anybody does to them or says to them can affect who they are. It's really fucking some pretty strong pimp shit, if you think about it. Someone tells you that they're going to fix you, so

nothing's going to come in. What's uncomfortable about it is you start thinking you could do that, too. You start thinking, I could do that to people. I could start writing shit like this and making shit up. What are you talking about? Easily, man. It was a crazy feeling, though, knowing that I'm living next to some dude who's just getting

raped. Hey, man. We can go down that path. You know what I mean? The religious people. They were taking 50 grand from him, man. Man, 50,000. 50,000 to wave a magic wand at you?

I'll do that for like 40 Gs. 50,000 to do some goddamn voodoo ceremony on his wife so that she won't get affected by bad booju anymore. Did you ever see the South Park episode about the whole Scientology thing about the Christmas? One of the best. Oh yeah, when they went over the whole myth. Oh my god, that was genius.

South Park's the greatest fucking cartoon in history. Here's the way it is though. The way it is is my friend has a grandma from Japan lived in Hawaii but basically for the last 30 years been in the house cleaning the house she's the nicest lady she got one of her friends from i don't know whatever old

japanese ladies do she doesn't speak english but so they go to a japanese church a christian church and they go they they're telling the story of the virgin birth and she suddenly has a freakout she's 80 years old she's kind of like an old lady. She's like, you believe this? She went, you, in the middle of the sermon, like, you all believe this? This is what the relationship is? Because that's her first time in a Christian church. She never heard about it, really.

She didn't know the story. Oh, no. It's not, you know, she freaked out. She was like, did you guys believe it? And fucked up the whole sermon and left in the middle of it. But if you draw the parallel, it's the same thing. It's kind of hard to, you know, I mean, I hate to get everybody angry at me. Yeah, Scientology is the same thing as Christianity. Well, yeah, I mean, it's just, it's 2,000 years younger.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. Anybody telling you they've got all the answers, they don't. We have this weird hunger to figure it all out. It's good, though. It's good because now we got these scientists, not Scientologists, scientists,

real scientists, and I think it's messed up Scientologists put it in there to sound like they're scientists. I know, right? That is kind of fucked up. They made their cult with science in it? Because people who don't want to go to church go, uh, wait, science sounds better. Yeah. But anyway, it has nothing to do with science.

Science fiction. Science and psychology together. It's meshed up. Exactly. But, you know, we all have this need to know everything. That's cool. These smart scientists are figuring it out. You know, they know the world round because they definitely shot a –

Here's the reality. Here's the reality. They're figuring out things about matter. They're figuring out things about the nature of reality. But we want more. But there's way more. The real big question isn't like how does this work, what makes this explode, what makes an atom, What makes the Big Bang?

The real question is, what the fuck is all this? Yeah, I know. That's the real question. To me, it's... That's impossible with just science. It's going to take evolution in science. Oh, yeah, definitely. The real thing that's going on is that we have all this incredible power right now as

a human race, but we're still in this crazy adolescent stage of figuring out how to behave and think and raise children to be normal humans. You know, I mean, it's a fucking very strange time when you think about the power that people have to change the fucking world that we live in, like with explosions and all kinds of crazy shit that people have invented. And how dumb people are as well at the same time. So many dummies. Well, yeah, but, you know, I mean, that's well at the same time. So many dummies. Well, yeah. But, you know, I mean, that's the way the world is. You know, there are smart people out there. And those smart people boss idiots like me around.

But has there ever been as big a disparity between people who are intelligent and involved and the people who aren't, all living in the same time? There's actually a lot of – all right. So scientists are talking about how things are going to go and which direction they're going to go. And they're talking about the elite class of people, the smart people. Some scientists have talked about that. We're going to evolve just like the time machine. There's going to be some goons, and there's going to be the super smart, crazy, genetically enhanced robot people. I don't know why people wouldn't think that's possible. People want to think somehow or another

that the human beings, what we are right now, is what we're going to stay. Nope. And we're not. We're going to become something else. You know, we're going to move on to something else, man. Who knows what the fuck it is, but it's not going to stop right here.

I just hope that I get robot arms out of the field. If you look at, like, other animals, like, they all, a bunch of different kind of subspecies where they branched off, and the humans themselves. We, at one point in time, were related to some other kind of primate. The same primate that the chimps were related to. And they all went in different directions. Who the fuck are we to assume that the branch is going to stop here?

No, we're not. I don't think anybody is. Does anyone think that, though? Some people. Yeah, no. What are you talking about, man? Most people think that we're here. This is how we're staying.

Well, they can't even see that the Chinese chinese chick i dated her parents like super short and and and she just sprung up to like five foot eight you know out of nowhere well guess what she's like eating this chemically processed food then all of a sudden she gets huge and she had big boobs i'm like how what you're asian your mom is super flat your dad is like a scrawny you got an octo woman you know you're having more babies now. There's more twins. Oh, yeah. That's like some chemicals they pumped in her, though, like some female steroids.

Yeah, that was on purpose, too. Yeah, yeah, for sure. They injected embryos into her. Well, that happens all the time that people, like, they can't have a kid. They're like, God, I just want to have a baby. And then they inject the lady with a bunch of hormones so she's super fertile. Then he drops a load inside of her, and all of a sudden you pop out a litter of puppies. Well, it's that, and they even put embryos in people.

That's what I'm saying. I mean actual embryos, like old women who no longer have any eggs. And bodies are starting to get used to having like 12 kids at once. Would a body be able to have 12 kids 10 years ago, 20 years ago? Well, I'm just hoping to see the turtle woman who has all her kids on the beach and then covers them up with sand. I think it's a disturbing idea for people to think that there's going to be

two groups of humans, intelligent ones and moron ones. They literally would be two different species because people are worried that they would be in the moron group. That's what it is. Everybody's like, I don't even want to talk about this. This is not real.

No, bullshit. People are going to evolve together. We're going to help each other. Stop thinking like that. You're a pessimist. Really? Watch the fucking news. Really?

Pay attention to some of the crazy shit that you hear people do. You hear about people fucking their kids and going into stores with machine guns. You don't think that it's somehow possible that that might be a separate subspecies of people eventually completely unrelated to like a Bill Gates like so totally different yeah it's just a matter of time man you know what I'm cool with being on the lower

end I'm like whatever I'll be like the smartest dumb guy it'll be all like the axe swinging savage I'll be like what 7-Eleven give me the food you might be having more fun and you might be getting more chicks because the smart chicks,

it's hard to get them to commit to a relationship. They're very wary of you. They want to like, I don't, you seem like a guy who's going to like abuse my emotions.

But the dumb chicks like, oh, you're hot, Jason. Can I, can I get in there, Jason? The dumb ones are sometimes it's more fun. If you want to party, partying with dumb people sometimes is a lot more fun.

It is. Partying with smart people want to fucking cry, talk to you about their ex-husbands. They want to smoke a joint and then fucking, yeah, cry about their ex-husbands. Fuck. Do you, I mean, think about it. If you're just a guy trying to have a good time, you have two options. One is a girl who's 23, just got out of college. She's out with all of her best friends, and they're all drinking.

Okay, there's that. Or she of college. She's out with all of her best friends and they're all drinking. Okay, there's that. Or she's 31, she's smoking cigarettes, she just broke up with her boyfriend, she thinks she might be pregnant. You know? Who the fuck are you going to talk to? Who are you going to talk to? You want to talk to this smart chick who just graduated from college and she's not exactly sure what she's going to do with her life and like,

hey, hey, hey, I just want to dance. Can't we just have a drink and have some fun? No, no. So you maybe have a point. If you want to have some fun, just fun, studies. Hey, studies disagree with you because from age 27 to 45 is like a woman's. Oh, sexual pride. Oh, for sure.

Sexual pride. All I'm saying is. You're telling me a 23 year old is not blowing you in the bathroom of a bowling alley. We're talking about dumb and smart. That's all I'm talking about. I'm not talking about necessarily the age. I think the chicks are hottest when they're in their 30s because they become women and they know each other. I'm just saying in our theoretical world of two different subspecies, you might be better off being king of the retards because you get a lot of hot chicks that are just like really easy and fun to hang out with.

Whereas opposed to if you hang out with a lot of smart chicks, like they're going to want a lot of commitment. You're just like really easy and fun to hang out with. Whereas opposed to you hang out with a lot of smart chicks, like they're going to want a lot of commitment. I think we're going to have to have a relationship. We have a black president. We have a black president. It is the future now. And I am the king of the retards. I'm chubby enough in Texas that I'm a supermodel.

Yeah. In Texas, you fit right the fuck in. Dude, girls like a man with a gut. Girls like a man with a little gut in Texas. That's a man who's living. Bigger is better. Yeah. Look, in the old days. Dude, they look up to me. Girls like a man with a gut. Girls like a man with a little gut in Texas. That's a man who's living. Bigger's better. Look, in the old days, man, fat broads were attractive. That's why those old paintings, like fat meant you had some money.

Hell yeah. She's so luxurious. Look, she gets to get fat. Because nobody else got fat, man. You know, when you look at those old pictures of fat bitches, and you're like, why is that sexy? What the fuck was wrong with them? What was wrong was it was hard to get food.

That was their bling. They were bling bling. And look at all this titty. Look at all this shit right here. I got all fat hanging off my arms and shit. That's how much food I got, bitch. I don't think they talk like that in the 1600s. Those pictures were the equivalent of Dub Magazine.

That was the equivalent of MTV Cribs. They were showing their bling. This is my bling. Look at all my fat. I just be eating shit, pigs and shit all day. I mean, pigs? Yeah, you could be fat and fucked up

and you looked like royalty whereas everyone else was sinewy and they fucking worked all day. They were built like mayhem. So you're saying if I go back in time, I want to plow some hood rats.

Is that what you're saying? Well, when you go back in time, you know, maybe fat chicks, you'd fall into a world where fat chicks were a trend. Maybe the only reason that guys could get fat chicks is because they had those gay powdered wigs on. And only fat chicks would fuck them. I don't know if that's the same era.

I don't think so. I'm not sure. Powdered wigs? Powdered wigs went a long way, right? It was going off when, I think it was getting out of that when Jerome was painting. People didn't wash back then. Yeah, they did. Who cared?

They washed very rarely. Well, you wash your armpits and your junk. You do like an Irish shower real quick. God damn, how much did people stink back then? No way, man. A lot of powder. You do that all the time. Japan, you do that all the time.

But I think that's how we're supposed to be. I mean, we're always trying to kill our pheromones off of each other. Do you think that if people just walked around all day funky that you'd get used to it? No. Go to France. No, no, I think you might. That's like getting used to the cat litter box. I smell it every day.

I still don't love it. Listen, bro, when you do jujitsu, you get used to stinky smelling keys and people. You don't mind it. Dude, I locked up with this guy the other day, and as soon as we started grappling, his shirt smelled like pneumonia. Maybe you always like it. You know how dudes leave their shit when people leave their gi in their bag, and then they put it on again a second time.

It's got that smell. This guy has rash guard. For sure, he wore it twice. That's what happens. Some dudes do that. They're bachelors and shit. They don't have any laundry. They don't have the time to do it.

They work. You get used to it, man. I got, yeah. Actually, I kind of like, listen, bro. You say that, but you would. But no, I smell cat litter for the last 10 years. That smells like assholes. Yeah, yeah.

You would smell like assholes. That's poison. Yeah, it's not human. It's not human smells. It's not human. You would smell like assholes. That's poison. It's not human. It's not human smells. It's not human. Listen, I... Human body odor is a different thing. Poop is actually dangerous for you.

It's like you have a bacteria that can give you disease. Yeah. That's why it's so repulsive to you. You had to explain that to this guy right now. He runs a fucking website. He's very smart. He's very smart.

He's just a little stoned. Damn, dude. Sorry, I'm just saying, shit is bad for you, just so you know. How rude. Sorry, sorry. No, but I like stinky people. I don't even mind stinky people.

What about stinky pussy, though? What about stinky pussy? Not if it's negative. You can smell the negative smell. However, man, every girlfriend I've had, whether she knew it or not, I smell her armpit hard. Really? Yeah, every time. I can't help it.

My nose doesn't work that good. Sometimes when I get warmed up, it works just fine. Isn't it amazing how repulsive stinky pussy is? Oh, man. And this is not a woman-hating statement at all. I understand. No one's perfect. It's just a health problem.

That's all it is. It's a bacterial infection or whatever it is. It's nothing wrong. I mean, it happens to people. But the smell itself is such a warning sign to men. Whatever the fuck it is, pussy always smells awesome. When you get down there, you smell the hormones and the moistness of it. It has like this glazed fucking scent to it.

Like you just barely pick it up. You smell a woman through her pussy. I mean, a clean, fresh pussy is a fantastic odor. But when it's nasty, when she's got some sort of a yeast infection or something, it's horrifying.

Like, all of your synapses are firing. All of your senses are going, get the fuck away from that. The last thing you want to do. I mean, I will eat a girl's ass after she gets back

from the gym way quicker than I would ever even think about going down and a girl has a yeast infection. Has anybody going down on a girl who has a yeast infection. Has anybody ever gone down on a girl who has a yeast infection? Absolutely. Cottage cheese is delicious.

But you know what's bad also is soap pussy, where they don't clean out the soap enough, and you're licking, and you're like, this tastes like I'm fucking washing my soap out. I'd rather be licking a dial factory than I would a yeast factory. I like the muffler a little dirty. Have you ever gone down on a girl when she had a yeast infection? Well, I mean,

I'm sure I have. Like, you know, at what level does it become a yeast infection? I mean, at one point it's like getting there and then beyond it,

then it stinks. But I'm sure, you know, it's got... Does period blood bug you? It depends on the girl I found.

It's not like real blood. It depends on the girl? I've recently been turning into Braveheart, you know, putting fucking stripes underneath my eyes, fucking drinking that shit. I think if you're turned on enough, you don't give a fuck. Yeah, for sure. That's what it is. Whenever I hear girls will complain, they will tell you stories about their boyfriend won't fuck them when they're on the rag and he's disgusted by it. I'm like, that guy's not that into you.

Let me tell you something. If a guy wants to fuck you, he doesn't if your pussies read it does that's nonsense. What is the difference if it's it's it's Slippery and red or slippery and clear I don't know if you have a odor. I don't give a fuck That's just blood if I'm horny and it that's it. Yeah, no, there's gonna be some blood I don't care. Clots, eggs, all of it. Embryos. I don't give a shit.

You're just chewing it up like a country breakfast. When my shit is ready to go and I go into gorilla mode, I don't give a fuck about some blood. I don't care about it anymore. You're not going to

bare your face in it. Are you kidding me? I would now. Oh, fuck yeah. I would eat her pussy. Dude, I'd Red Wing time 20 right now. Yeah.

If Mrs. Rogan is on her period, I'll eat that pussy. I don't give a fuck. I like it. I don't care. I'm not wing time 20 right now. Yeah. If Mrs. Rogan is on her period, I'll eat that pussy. I don't give a fuck. I like it. I don't care. I'm not scared of blood, dude. I got this werewolf fucking fixation. Yeah.

I'm not afraid. What I don't like, though, is when I forget to wash it off, and then you have that cocoon shell on your dick the next morning where you pull it off like a locust. Oh, when you forget? Yeah. Yeah, you can all be crusted and scaly and shit. A locust.

You got to pick it off a tree. Yeah. It's got its little legs still. That's hilarious. Like locust skin. It sloughs off like a snake. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. We just took things away. It's a good turn, man, because that's a primal thing. These are all like primal messages that nature gives you. These are all good things. It's good for the chick. It's good for you. You know, when you go down on a chick and you smell her and she smells awesome and you want to eat her pussy, that feels good for her, too.

That's like extra excitement. Like you're into it. She loves it. And this is just burst of positive energy. That's all good stuff, man. There ain't nothing wrong with that. You know, and the fact that somehow or another you're not supposed to talk about this or it's supposed to be something that's discussed behind closed doors, that's just because people are afraid.

They're afraid of their feelings. They're afraid of emotions. They're afraid of looking ridiculous. Well, it's our whole culture too. We have like a whole stop on sex. Like, oh, my God, sex. Like, whoa, what are you drawing line? How come you can't talk about it?

Every one of us is here because two people fucked. How come you can't talk about eating pussy on the Today Show? Why can't I go on the Today Show and just respectfully talk about eating pussy? Because you don't want to see Katie Couric getting horny. You don't want to see that. They're trying to protect you from gross women getting horny. If I caught Katie Couric ten years ago and we got drunk together in a hotel bar. What are you talking about?

I was a single man. You'd wreck it? I'd wreck it. Come on. Katie Couric, if you want some, if you want some, if you ever had some athlete dick, you ever had some MMA fighter dick,

you ever have some gladiator cock, Jason Mayhem Miller is ready to throw down. Do you want to be Mayhem Monkey number 421? Do you want to see Al Roker? Because that position's available. You and me in the record books, yo. Al Roker with a boner doing the weather. Do you want that? Why would Al Roker get hard? do you think al roker would get hard from katie kirk that's like his sister that gets more money than him dude you know they all hate each other

they all fuck each other in the dressing room you are fucking hogging up my screen time i bet they get all shitty with each other i don't like the way you threw to that piece fuck you katie you made 50 million dollars this year you fucking whore they probably yell with each other. I don't like the way you threw to that piece. Fuck you, Katie. You made $50 million this year, you fucking whore. They probably yell at each other and shit. Al, you read the fucking weather. What do you do?

What do you do? You're pointing at shit. You think you're talented? You think because you got the right man that you're better? I am a conversationalist. You're a fucking sideshow.

People tune in to see how much weight you lose. Get out of here. You know that their managers do that Not them Do you think they bang? Could you imagine if Katie Couric And look

Secrets are being exposed because of the internet I mean look at this Mel Gibson thing Oh my god Mel Gibson is awesome Oh my goodness I love him more than George W. Bush He's like the best hilarious guy ever I love him more than I've ever loved a male celebrity He's hilarious

Because he's a train wreck celebrity. He's hilarious. He's a train wreck, but everybody gets to see it. I'm sure he must have been a fucking nightmare to be in a relationship with. But I don't think we're getting all the fucking details out of her either. I think that bitch is fucking cuckoo for Coco Puffs as well. Oh, undoubtedly, because the chicks

always will egg a dude on and make him psycho. That's why, because she's already done all the work. Now she's collecting dividends by recording him. Here's the deal, ladies, please. If anybody talks to you like that, don't talk to them.

Never. Just hang up. Don't ever engage in... I understand she's got a kid with him, but let's be realistic. This shit didn't start... Yeah realistic. This shit didn't start. Yeah, but this shit didn't start recently. Those kind of screams, that motherfucker's been ramping up for years.

Yeah, that's years worth of buildup to get to that point where that kind of crazy is acceptable. You know what I mean? Like, you can't release that kraken on the second day of the relationship, right? To get that kind of crazy of crazy you got to get to know each other for a long ass time to the point where you feel like you could just be completely insane with her you fucking cunt whore i hope you get raped by a pack of niggers he just starts talking super crazy talk like that's been building up what it was like a sex thing between them and they it was like role playing and that she took the recordings of wow and this is like that's a good you know It was like role playing that she took the recordings of. Wow. And this is like. Yeah, that's a good.

You know what? I like his conspiracy theory. You fucking bitch. You whole time he's masturbating. That's why he's out of breath going. You know what he could say if he was like a Jacques Queen Phoenix type dude? He could say this is all performance art. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. That's all he has to say. He could say it's all performance art. He's like my EA sports video. You know what he could say too? He could have a public apology and say none of this was ever meant to get out. And I definitely took it too far.

And I definitely think I got too into character and said some shit that was offensive. And I never wanted people to hear it. And all I was doing was exploring this character that I was creating for a new role about a guy who was this very wealthy man with a Russian bride who was trying to kill him and he went crazy. So I was exploring this character. I apologize. And she took it way out of context. Mel, call me.

We can work this shit out, son. Call me. I want to fuck you. Mayhem and I got it, dude. We're going to meet you in Malibu. We'll get some sushi at Nobu. Holla. Dude, I know a guy that can back Twitter.

Sushi Chef K. My friend K works there at Nobu. We'll get you, I know a guy that can back Twitter. Sushi Chef K. My friend K works there at Nobu. We'll get you together, bro. Mel, we got you. Dude, back Twittering. It exists. Mel, this is all just a misunderstanding. This is a character you're working on.

I know. Mayhem knows. For sure. We got you. Didn't it, though, as a crazy person, Mayhem, didn't it make you happy that someone was way crazier than you? Yeah, yeah. I was like, whoa, I would never say some shit like that.

Like, I'm like, I get banana sandwich sometimes, like, fucking flip my lid. But I would never, like, I don't know, maybe it's just not my character, though. Like, I don't lie. Like, I wouldn't say anything racist because I would say some crazy shit, but I could never bring it to that level

where you're like, shit, whore, cunt. Then again, I don't have any kids. So maybe it made him crazy. Like when a dog has a baby, it starts to get super protective. Well, Dr. Drew says, and I don't know if Dr. Drew is right, but Dr. Drew says that he thinks that what it is is an imbalance. He thinks that Mel Gibson is something wrong with his brain. Yeah, for sure.

Bipolar. Well, because if he's getting hammered all the time and then yelling at cops about Jews. That was the other thing Dr. Drew said. He was talking about recovery and the fact that Mel was in recovery for alcohol and then he might have like fucked. That was the other thing Dr. Drew said. He was talking about recovery and the fact that Mel was in recovery for alcohol and then he might have fucked up and fell off the wagon. So he might legitimately be crazy.

Yeah. Sounds like it. Sounds like it, right? Because that's not normal guy psycho. He would hog up after he said his piece. Brian, you ever met anybody that crazy? Yeah, it's usually thyroid conditions and shit like that, but maybe he just got so stuck into the lethal weapon role. crazy huh you mess up who do you know that's that crazy

i've made a stripper that you don't have to say names an ex yeah okay okay no not an ex just a person just a girl i know that i used to work with okay oh that girl that the one the one with the hair yes that girl and that girl would get that crazy huh well you could tell it was a irritation brought on by you know of course of chemicals chemicals stuff you know yeah and and you could tell it was just one day was awesome other day it was like the worst storm people that don't have any medical issues are so quick to dismiss that shit. Right.

You know, the bottom line is, man, the body fucks up and sometimes doesn't produce the shit it's supposed to produce. Right. Totally. Totally. I just think anytime somebody has, you know, whatever, a mental condition, and then he exacerbates it with alcohol, drugs, or whatever, maybe he's popping them Adderalls. Right. That'll make you sick. A lot of guys who write do Adderall. Apparently, it makes you very disciplined and organized.

Yeah, because you sit there and super focused and write. I tried that, and I had a flip out like that. Because the doctor said, oh, you have ADD. Oh, really? I have ADD? I'm just hyperactive, really. And then he gave me that stuff. And for a while, I was writing blogs on mayhemiller.com.

I was writing whatever. Man, out of nowhere, I just start flipping out, like losing my mind. Well, it's like speed. It is speed. It's methamphetamine salts. That's what it's called. They didn't even hide the name in a different name. It's called methamphetamine salts?

Yeah, that's what it's called. The generic. If you get generic, it's methamphetamine salts. Generic for Adderall. Like, whoa, they're selling this to kids. Brian, look that up. No, I'm not. You don't have to.

I believe you, but I want to know. Because after it made me crazy, I was like... The chemical term is... That's insane. Yeah. I have a friend who's...

What should I Google? Adderall. Adderall. And I don't know, technical name? Chicks take it all the time. Just Adderall. I bet in Wikipedia

it probably tells you. I know two model chicks who take that because it kills your appetite, and they just walk around super scrawny and ripped up. Oh, my God. That's so crazy. How much B12 do you take per day?

I probably take 500 milligrams. Are you sure about that? Why? Just wondering. He's just being a weirdo. All right. I found Adderall. I like niacin better.

I have a buddy who's a comic who's on the Adderall and he says it helps him tremendously he's a dude who doesn't take care of himself his body, he's in his 40s and he looks like he's falling apart he's just one of those dudes who's never been real health conscious and he was

having issues with energy and focus and they got him on this Adderall shit and now this motherfucker just works his ass off. He could just sit in front of the computer 10 hours at a stretch and write books. Hey, man, Hitler gave it to the soldiers in his army. Hell, what am I talking about? Methamphetamines, yeah. Yeah, methamphetamines.

There's greenies in the Vietnam era. The greenies, the guys are taking it and going on ruck marches for like two or three days. Well, I thought the Japanese invented it. I thought they invented it and then they tested it out on kamikaze pilots. What I had read, or maybe I had seen a documentary, I don't really remember totally, but it was something on the creation

of methamphetamines and it was connected to kamikaze pilots, that that's how they talked those guys into going crazy and slamming their plane into boats. They were all methed out of their heads. Which totally makes sense. Could you imagine being in war? Could you imagine being over there

in the Japanese army? Being in war and being methed out of your fucking mind. Surrounded by other dudes methed out of their fucking mind and everyone's got guns. Yeah, but you know what?

Jap dudes are like real serious. I lived over there. They're like very like focused on everything. That is a warrior culture, huh? Yeah, yeah. I love it over there, man. Do you? It's great. I love it. You're a huge star over there, too. You is a warrior culture, huh? I love it over there, man.

You're a huge star over there, too. You're a much bigger star in Japan than you are in America. I wish that I could fight over there more, but right now the economy is in shambles. I love you over there, though. You know why? Because I make an effort. Actually, my best buddy,

I call him Aniki. He's a big brother. He's my guy, and I lived over there and i like because of the limited japanese i could speak i assimilated with japanese fighters and i would just be me and you know 18 japanese fighters eating at a sumo restaurant like that is me and a bunch of japanese dudes and i kind of got used to their culture right and kind of got into it like i was like, man, I'm a Japanese dude right now. They're so serious, man. I love how they do.

No, that's not true. I don't mean about not joking around. Oh, yeah. I mean about their energy, their warrior spirit. They're so fucking driven with it. It's such an interesting culture, the culture that really appreciates the effort. Dudes will lose and get so many fans.

Dudes will just fight like a warrior. Go out and show heart. In losses, you become more and more popular. Look at Sakuraba. It didn't matter how many times he lost. Nobody ever gave up on him. It's like boxing. If De La Hoya gets knocked the fuck out two times in a row,

nobody was going to go see him fight. Everyone's going to say, hang it up, De La Hoya. But Sakuraba, dude, it doesn't matter how many times he got his egg scrambled. People showed up to watch him fight again, and they cheered him like he was... They respected him, because he's been in those, like, Lesnar versions where he's getting his ass kicked and

come back and win, you know? I love Japan, just for K-1. I just love that they put on K-1, because if it wasn't for Japan, like, real high-level kickboxing, especially amongst big heavyweights and shit, there'd be nothing, man. Where the fuck are anybody putting on shows in America? I mean, there are Muay Thai shows and shit like that, but there's nothing televised. There's nothing where people get to see it.

Nobody had that steam built like the UFC from their negative side where no one had that steam built about kickboxing that anybody cared. Kickboxing was like a stupid movie with John Cronin. Amongst high level guys though, man, it's so fucking exciting. I know. The PKA,

that PKA karate shit in the 80s ruined kickboxing in America. Yeah, because everybody got the concept Bad Brad Hefton and shit throwing flippy kicks.

Yeah, it's like a super D-level athlete doing shit in high pants. And there's such a big difference between kickboxing above the waist and kickboxing with leg kicks. Yeah. You add those leg kicks, it changes the whole fucking thing.

Well, you've got to be way stronger. Like, you have to be, like, a strong, tough dude who mentally can take it. Because, yo, my legs are sore right now from this morning's training. And I only took, like, two with shin pads on. Did you see the Hizzo Shamrock fight last weekend? Yeah. Pedro Hizzo? No. Ken Shamrock? Yeah, I didn't see that. Ken Shamrock got smashed by Pedro Hizzo. Oh, pads on. Did you see the Hizzo-Shamrock fight last weekend? Pedro Hizzo-Shamrock? Yeah, I didn't see that.

Ken Shamrock got smashed by Pedro Hizzo. Oh, come on. He stood up with him. He stood up with him. But he finished him with a leg kick. The final leg kick, it is so hard to watch, man. You watch, you just go, ah! Because you could feel Pedro with those tree trunk legs.

Just the bone just slams into Ken's leg and you look on Ken's face. He's been kicking like that for years. The Randy Couture fight, Randy had to rehab his legs for six fucking months. I know. He has like a weird vein sticking out from that fight. So does Randleman from Pedro Hizzo. Both guys from Hizzo. Because Hizzo would chop at you

so hard with such good technique and he's so fucking big. He would jack guys legs so bad. They would literally never be the same again. I'll tell you, as a fighter, one of the rare awesome things that I've seen in my life, I just remember the first time I kicked somebody real good in the ribs. I kicked them hard with my shin bone. It was one of the most amazing feelings because I never knew Muay Thai.

I moved to California and trained Muay Thai for real and kicked the pads real hard. And then I remember the guy came and he threw a jab and I turned and kicked. And when my shin went like it went into his ribs, I could feel everything move in there. Man, almost unreal feeling in my life because I felt his body change because of what I was doing. And I was like, man. And he was, after that point of the fight, he was kind of done. Like he was like, ugh, and then he let me beat him up.

Because I kicked him, I got him a good one in the ribs, and he was done after that because, you know, your body, your body's not meant to go that way. Muay Thai is the way to go. There's some kicks from Taekwondo that are really effective Your body's not meant to go that way. Muay Thai is the way to go. There's some kicks from Taekwondo that are really effective that guys are using now. Like, Kang Lee's bringing back the turning side kick in the 360. Taekwondo dudes in sparring would piss me off.

Because they're like, you learn how to kick where you're like, like it's a hard one, but it's so fast. And it's not the same as a Muay Thai kick where you're digging through with the whole body. There's more time to prepare. It's faster. Man, the guys will piss me off. Just kick me across the face real quick. The best guys are the guys who have the combination of both types of styles.

They have the ability to throw like Taekwondo fast kicks, side kicks and turning side kicks. But they also have the Muay Thai leg kicks. And the Muay Thai defense is important too. You know, you got to know how to fucking deal with those shins slamming into your arms. Because those PKA guys, they never got kicked like that. Very rarely did a guy get his arm broken in the PKA. But in, like, K-1, LeBanner broke his arm. I mean, Frank Shamrock got his arm broken. Well, because you have to be aware of the leg kicks, too.

So, like, you're, like, worrying about, oh, this guy's going to kick me in the leg. Well, you're right in prime range for him to kick your arm off his socket. It's that, but it's also the shin. Those other guys just did not understand the power of the shin. Everybody was going in step. I understand the power. Yeah, but here's what. If you take away a Muay Thai guy's leg kicks and make him fight PK,

that style of above the waist lends itself for slap fights. It doesn't turn into a real kickboxing match where you've got to worry. There's another huge element when you add knees and you add those leg kicks oh definitely huge huge huge because you know why i've thought about a lot and i visualized it a lot and i always like in my fights i always feel that okay this is the end of my range with my hands and i go i feel about with my legs i go okay that's the end of my range with my kicks and i figure that out in the first minute or two and i go okay that's where i can play okay so then you know i with that kickboxing

thing you got to stand so close to each other and whatnot you can't really get a good dig you know you can't really get there there wasn't an exciting knockout that was like a lot of times guys standing like rock'em sock'emots just up kicking at each other. I mean, there were some exciting fighters like Don the Dragon Wilson was really exciting at it. I was like a little kid

who watched that. Dennis Alexio, he fought when they had like leg kick style. That was leg kick style. Yeah, but that was the transition where they were trying

to put like leg kick fights on TV. I remember Don Wilson fought Alexio on TV. What year is this? I don't remember, man. It was back in the Disney, son. But Don the Dragon Wilson fucked Wilson fought Alexio on TV. They were? What year was this? I don't remember, man. It was back in the Dizzee, son. But Don the Dragon Wilson

fucked up Dennis Alexio with leg kicks. That's how he won that fight. Yeah, but once you take that away, there's not a big spot where you can set up to make a hard kick to the... Aren't you surprised, though, that someone hasn't figured out a way to do some sort of a K-1 thing in America? I know

K-1 has had a few fights in America, but how the fuck is that not on TV? So, like, whenever that shit's on, like the K-1 Grand Prix, I get fired up. Yeah. You see, like, Badr Hari. They put it on there all the time. Yeah, they put it on there. But, you know, it's one of those things that hasn't broken up. Thank God for Mark Cuban and that HDNet, man.

I watch more MMA because of HDNet than anything else. That's a great network. I'm just surprised that no one's got a kickboxing league. I think kickboxing. Chuck Norris has got a kickboxing league. I went to that shit, son. I got a hug by Chuck Norris. One of the proudest moments of my life.

I was so pissed. I didn't want to go back and say, can I take a picture with you and be all cheesy? But Chuck Norris, when he met me, he reached out his hand and gave me this big, giant hug. He slapped me on the back. I'm like, I'm in. I'm in. Do you understand me? I just got love from Chuck Norris. Do you remember any

details from that day? Like a certain smell? Love? I remember love was in the air. No, dude. We were at Vegas and we were at a WCL, one of those world kickboxing leagues or whatever the name of it was. It was Vegas or Atlantic City. I think it was Vegas. I'm not sure. Anyway,

I just went up and I said to one of the guys that was working there, I said, do you think I can meet Chuck Norris? And the guy goes, yeah. I'm like, fuck yeah. Come on, man. And he just brought me over to Chuck Norris. And I was just going to say, sir, I'm a huge fan. Very nice to meet you.

But Chuck Norris fucking opens his arms, gives me this big giant smile and says, Joe, what's going on, man? He gives me this big hug. Joe Rogan is so awesome. He got a hug from Chuck Norris and lived to tell the tale. They just beard scratched their cheeks. I wish it did. Dude, I was, for real, man, as a kid, I was a huge fucking Chuck Norris fan.

And to the dragon, that fight with Bruce Lee, all the fucking missing in action movies. I mean, as dumb as they were. Delta Force, are you kidding me? What was that? Lone Wolf McQuaid? That was the shit, son. Come on, man.

With a little David Carradine. Extra points. Lone Wolf McQuaid. Dude, Chuck Norris was the fucking man. So for me to have Chuck Norris recognize me and give me his big hug and call me by name, I was like, oh, shit. It's like the best birthday present ever. The game has changed.

Morpheus. Don't bring that up. What? No? No. You don't want to do audio? No. Oh, that would be fun.

Brian, I don't want to talk about that. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I don't care. I don't know that dude. He's some crazy stalker character. I don't want to give him fuel. You know what I'm saying? Okay.

I see you, baby. Shaking that ass. Shaking that ass. Your dog's giving up on trying to kill the cat. Yeah, he's good. He settled in. He just wants to kick it. He was ready to fucking engage.

Yo, man. Yo, he hates squirrels, birds, and cats. He will fuck some shit up. If he can get a hold of it, he'll run. I've seen him run into a busy ass on Fairfax and Third. He ran out into the street after a bird. Let me ask you this. What do you think about Strikeforce?

Do you like working for them? Yeah. So cool? Everyone's cool with you? Yeah, you know, I feel like they just have some certain problems that will be fixed

as time goes on. Do you think if it wasn't for this battle with the Diaz brothers, this thing, and post-fight thing with Gilbert Melendez and everything,

do you think you would be challenging for the title right now? Because Jake just abandoned it. Yeah. You know, I mean, you had the challenging for the title right now? Because Jake just abandoned it. Yeah. You know, I mean, you had the toughest fight with him. Your fight with him was way tougher than Henderson's fight with him. It looks, you know, I guess.

I guess, you know what, I shouldn't say that. That's not really fair. Because Dan came really close to putting him out in the first round. Same thing. Dan came closer to putting him out, really. But Jake is such a damn good fighter. He, like. Jake's tough as fuck.

Yeah, he went, fuck it, I'm just going to keep going. But from that point on, it was a rout. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't close. I was like, damn. It seemed like Dan was having a hard time making weight. It didn't seem like the normal Dan. Oh, really?

Yeah. I think 85 is hard for him, man. He looked kind of run down. Yeah, Dan's a thick dude. I think him making 85. Hell no. I disagree with you. I know this because I trained with Dan.

He walks around like 197. But he doesn't like cutting that weight, man. Well, of course, because, dude, he's fucking 40 years old. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I'm saying at that age. You know, you get over it. I'm sure you get over it. You know, he's been making weight since he was what?

Brian, what was that? What are you doing? Nothing. He's like eight years old. I know, but when you get to be 40, that's really hard to do. Yeah, for sure. But Dan, if he catches you with that fucking right hand, God damn, you got problems.

We all know that. That dude's got one missile, man. He knocked out Vanderlei with his left. Oh, he's got a strong core, and when he twists, it's super hard punch. Yeah, you got fucking problems. I mean, he's not like a Masato technique striker, but God damn, he's got hard punch. Yeah, you got fucking problems. Yeah. You know? I mean, he's not like, you know, a Masato technique striker. Yeah, yeah.

But goddamn, he's got haymakers. But, you know, yeah, maybe I kind of gave Strikeforce a black eye. You know, I brought some attention to us, but I gave Strikeforce a black eye a little bit by causing that whole drama. But at the same time. Did you cause it? You didn't want to start a fight. I didn't want to start a fight, of course. I wanted to go in there and ask for my rematch.

You wanted to hype up a rematch and everybody's on CBS. Let's make some money. Let's get everybody fired up and enthusiastic about this and everybody wins. It's not like you were going in there with an angry, mean face on, looking to fight him right then and there. What it was was, it's like, I don't know, does CBS not get it? You know, everybody was mad at me. And I'm like, guys, what happened?

Negative here. I got jumped on. i didn't get hurt they i did i totally did not understand why you were getting all the blame for that i know it's the people who should have got the blame were the people who let you in no one should have let you in that was an oversight they know that now it'll never happen again that's what you know running a business is all about no one's perfect but once that said you know what it was was there was too many fucking people in the octagon there was you there was too many fucking people in the octagon. There was you, who was an unwanted person in the octagon, and you were interfering with someone who was getting their glory.

The whole thing was just badly run. It was chaos. You get a bunch of fucking dogs together, okay, and dogs start growling, and shit happens. You can't get mad at the dogs. You just can't. Look, I think those guys shouldn't have done that, but fuck, man emotions run high after victories things happen people get crazy and you know and what's the worst that happened may have got jumped on tv yeah you got fucking kicked in the head while you're on the ground i got fined for it and it's suspended i'm like how long did they suspend you

for three months three months and but if i would have argued with it it would have been like nine months you can't win you can't win if you with it, it would have been like nine months. You can't win. You can't win. If you win, it sets a precedent. I know. Yeah. When is the last time anybody ever tried to get a fight overturned or protested something ever and it came through? Any steroid test?

Anything. Benji Radek protested some stoppage or something. And it worked? No. It didn't. It never works. Nobody. Yeah, Benji Radek protested the Scott Smith fight,? No, it didn't. No. It never works. Nobody. Yeah, Benji Raddick protested the Scott Smith fight, wasn't it? I guess. Yeah.

I think he thought it was stopped too soon. Yeah. You know what, man? People fuck up, and it's a terrible thing that people fuck up. But once they fuck up, it's very rare that anything's going to go. I just like to look straight into the future with a positive mindset. And usually, you know, it works out for me. So who do they have lined up for you in October?

I'm not sure. We're trying to put Nick Diaz together. Uh-oh. Goodness. Yeah, a little grudge match. So guess what? I started a grudge match, and it ended up, now they're going to use it.

You know what I mean? Like, okay, now we got a grudge match. Well, that would be a hyped-up fight. Damn right. So that would be in October? Do you know where it's going to be at? Nope. I don't know anything. I don't know if it's happening yet,. Do you know where it's going to be at? Nope. I don't know anything. I don't know if it's happening yet, but I like to rub my mouth off and hopefully

make it happen. Are you bummed out that you don't fight for the UFC? No. You're fine with Strikeforce? I got a good deal and whatever. And cool, yeah, the UFC is the biggest show in town and I understand that. But when you see Chael Sonnen challenging Anderson for the title,

do you look at that shit and say, God damn it, that could be me. I wish I could fight Anderson. It's one of those things, right now at this stage of my career, cool. If something gets worked out where I could work with them in the future, okay, cool.

But right now, I have a contract and I'm generally pretty happy. Whatever. How cool are you with Dana? Are you and Dana cool? I don't know. I don't know about that. She doesn't say hi to me, so I'm like, oh, well, damn.

Didn't say hi to me. I'm like, what? But I don't know. Do you think he thinks you're crazy, maybe? Yeah, I think he thinks I'm crazy. And I don't blame him, because my actions. Well, you are crazy. Yeah, I'm crazy, but I'm pretty controlled.

And if I can get on the same page as somebody, we can be crazy. I'll be the crazy guy, and you make some money. You know what I mean? We'll both make money. How long do you think Bully Beatdown is going to go on? Man, way too long. I think I'll be old man forever. Really?

Yeah, dude. That's a juggernaut. God. I thought it wasn't, and then I did the third season. I recorded it all, and it'll be released. Do you know how crazy it would be if you were on Bully Beatdown and on The Ultimate Fighter at the same time? Bro, I already have too much TV time as it is right now. You can't take it?

Yeah. No, I like it. No, I don't mind. I don't mind. But what I'm saying is, I don't know. People might get sick of mayhem. No one's going to get sick of you mayhem. Don't worry about that, fella.

We're here for you. All right. Just take a little bit less B12. Yeah. No one's going to get sick of you, mayhem. Don't worry about that, fella. We're here for you. Just take a little bit less B12. Yeah, no, man. What is it about the B12? It gives you energy. You think you're taking too much B12? I'm good. You know what? I'm dating this girl. Niacin fucking freaks me out, man. Huh? Niacin? Oh, man, you burned your whole body.

Man, you know what? I got used to it now and I like it. I like it a little bit, too. Like, it's burning my whole body, but I like it. I'm dating this girl who got me all the vitamins and whatnot, and, man, I'm like, this is the best thing that happened to me. That's very important, man. Supplements, it's amazing to think that you never took them. You know what?

I just started taking supplements, like, this year. Really? I never took supplements. I was just like, whatever. Wow. That's crazy. It's stupid, what it is. Yeah, you need some supplements.

Yeah, I didn't think that it was that important, but, man, I feel a marked difference. Well, you know, what it is is it's marketed if you listen to people like doctors who tell you all you need is a multivitamin, all that stuff is nonsense. You know why? It's because it's not FDA approved. Oh, it's not approved. Well, it doesn't mean just because it's not approved doesn't mean it doesn't work.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence from people that are taking it that are having pretty positive results. There's like nootropics that I take that make your brain work better. There's a whole bunch. Yeah. Give me some of that. Yeah, I got some. I'll write you down a list of all the different shit. Resveratrol.

Well, that's an excellent antioxidant. But there's a bunch of different things that are designed. Look up nootropics designed just to increase cerebral activity. You're talking about that, and I think that we live in a culture where it's not about living better, really. It's about just living above the death line. Nobody wants to really think about it. Nobody wants to be premium. Nobody wants to be feeling fantastic.

Yeah, it's like I had a conversation be premium. Nobody wants to be feeling fantastic. Yeah, it's like I had a conversation with a few people. No, feeling fantastic is bad and wrong. That's why you're not allowed to smoke pot anywhere but California. Well, there's that. How much does it drive you crazy when dudes who don't work out will talk shit on exercise and the importance of keeping your body healthy? Yeah. It's just that ignorant view where a lot of people are ignorant, and then they take pride in their ignorance.

Yeah, it's like, dude, when your body works better, your brain feels better. It all works better. The whole thing flows better. So true. You know? But nobody wants to admit that that's their issue. You know, nobody wants to admit that their lack of exercise and everything. No, no, no, no.

I don't need. Nobody needs to work out. I don't want to. Comics are fucking famous for that kind of shit. No, no, no, no. I don't need. Nobody needs to work out. I don't want to. Comics are fucking famous for that kind of shit. Comics are always bitching and whining and they just want to sleep till three and don't do anything constantly.

That shit is so important for you, man. Well, I just think that people in general, it's easier to be lazy and then bitch about it because that's funny and you get positive reinforcement from people laughing at that. Like, oh, yeah, I hate working out too. Yeah, there's a little bit of that. Misery loves company.

But I had a conversation with a dude once where he was talking about, like, what's the point in exercising? What's the point in working out? I go, all right, if I could give you a pill and this pill would give you a super powerful body, like ridiculous, much more powerful than a normal person. You could literally take the normal man and strangle him at will. You could take him, manhandle him, treat him like a girl and choke him to death. If I gave you a pill that would give you that, wouldn't you take it? Wouldn't you want to have that

power? I mean, wouldn't you want to have this superpower? I give you a pill and it turns you into an assassin. And I'm like, well, you can have that, stupid. All you have to do is work out. If you train and you do some kettlebells, get really good at youriu-jitsu. It's way different than a pill. When were you working as a salesman at 24 Hour Fitness?

I don't understand that. Legends. Legends in Hollywood. They got me on the 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu affiliation program. I'm trying to sign people up. You enjoy working out, though, where a lot of people don't enjoy working out. You know what I enjoy? I enjoy jiu-jitsujitsu because jujitsu to me is like,

it's an awesome distraction. I got so much going on in my life. When I get into jujitsu and I'm rolling with some dude and we are just trying to kill each other, you know,

I'm trying to choke him. He's trying to choke me. We are battling. We're pacing ourselves. I know what this motherfucker's doing. He keeps going for the deep half sweep.

I got to keep that underhook. I got to stop him. There's like this battle going on and when that battle's going on, man, I don't think about shit else. I'm not thinking about I need to clean my office. I'm not thinking about I need to call that dude about this thing.

I need to get my shit together and write this new material. No, I'm just doing jujitsu. I'm in that zone because it's so difficult to do. It puts you in the zone. And it's like a fun fucking game. While we're on it, you need to clean your office, bro. a little bit, right? Yeah, if you only had the passion with cleaning That's a new show dude the fucking aggro cleaning guy

You're telling me that mr. Cleans not on juice look at that guy he lost all his hair no jack He looks like Krzysztof Szczes guy. He lost all his hair. He's jacked. He looks like Krzysztof Szczynski. He does. He does, right? With no tattoos. With no tattoos. All swollen shit.

Krzysztof is a fucking sculpted specimen of a man. Yeah, he is, right? I'm like, how the hell do you look like that? God damn specimen. Cool motherfucker, too. Yep. Him and his girl. Hung out with them in England.

Cool shit. Cool, man. Krzysztof was on The Ultimate Fighter, for people who don't know. Super nice guy. That's the thing about MMA that people don't realize is how many nice people there are that are involved in it.

And in martial arts in general, like some of the nicest people I know are dudes that have fought and dudes that train because you have like a better control of your ego. You're like, you know, you're used to getting your ass kicked. You're used to finding out your real boundaries

by breaking yourself down, by getting to the point where you literally can't fucking breathe. You literally are in class, and when everyone says time, and you drop to your back, you're literally broken. Whereas other people,

they hardly ever experience that. They don't experience the boundaries of their drive, the boundaries of their discipline. So the people that I've met that are fighters, some of the coolest fucking people you ever meet in your life. They have to show their ass to the world, man. It's definitely a – you've got to drop – whoever you are comes out in the cage. You have to really be yourself for a second, and you have to deal with the pain. You're like, oh my god

I don't want to be a bitch and dad you never loved me and shit like that goes through your head. It's not, you have to confront these real fears and you have to confront everything and I say all of you guys out there in cyberspace, be a cage fighter just for a day.

And there's growth in that. There's growth in that confrontation. When you understand your boundaries and you hit them, you get to know yourself better. You get to know yourself better than the average dude who doesn't do shit with his body. There's something about doing something really

difficult, willpower-wise, with your body, like training, especially training in jiu-jitsu and shit. There's battles, man. Sometimes a guy's got your back, and you're defending, and you know you can just tap out, and this is going to be over.

But the other side of your brain is going, no, we're going to gut this out as long as we possibly can. And there's that fence that you're dancing on where you're like, let me just tap right here. Fuck this. But it's so uncomfortable and so difficult to get through,

but your willpower allows you to survive. And then you get through it, and you're like, motherfucker me just tap right here. Fuck this. But it's so uncomfortable and so difficult to get through. But your willpower allows you to survive. And then you get through and you're like, motherfucker, I got through that. I thought I was gone. I thought I was gone. And now I'm on top. Oh, shit. And now I'm passing. You know, it's like this overcoming of adversity. A lot of people never experienced that, especially like physically, where your mind has to control your body through some uncomfort, you know? Yeah, I know. I guess you could get the same effect from, like, I don't know, run a marathon or do something. Anything physically where you have to push your body, the mind and the willpower have to control the body. I think it's much more difficult when you're doing it in a competition like MMA or anything

like boxing or jiu-jitsu, anything where it's a dude is trying to kill you. Yeah, one-on-one. Then it's much more difficult. Yeah, definitely. But shit, man. Think about the kind of willpower that's involved in a dude is trying to kill you. Then it's much more difficult. Yeah, definitely. But shit, man. Think about the kind of willpower that's involved in a Tour de France. I know. Unbelievable.

Those guys are just pedaling and pedaling. Just pumping their legs. Just doing the same movement. Discipline. Man. God damn. When I look at Lance Armstrong, I go, that must be the most boring, intense motherfucker alive.

You know? Because he does some boring ass shit is just pedaling I mean it's not boring I mean obviously they're racing and it's awesome countryside and shit and there's all this attention and all this energy but they're doing the same thing for days yeah that shit takes days it's like who's the most boring intense motherfucker on earth let's find out everybody get together get on a bike let's have the same thing for like accounting or something fucking accounting olympics the guy's just adding fucking bills up for fucking six days straight yeah there's something about that like sheer tests of discipline that are so uncomfortable for me

you know i have you know because because as a fighter i have like you know some serious discipline to get inside the room and fight with other guys for, you know, at least an hour. Like I'm doing that for at least an hour a day. And pretty much my entire life. I've done that. The other side, I can't fill out a fucking form without getting distracted. Like I'm like sitting there.

House application was the funniest thing I've ever done. Cause I'm sitting there like motherfucker. If you put one more paper in my face, I'm going to slap your fucking notary public face off. You know? I'm like, God, it's like all day just sitting there. I hated it. That's funny.

Yeah. It's a different mindset, I guess. It's a different kind of discipline. When I look at a lawyer or whatever, I'm like, wow, you fucking look at papers and read shit all day. Dude, I am the exact same way. I'm a retard when it comes to filling out forms and shit. And I get on to page 10, I feel like someone's hitting me. Yeah, I am the exact same way. I'm a retard when it comes to filling out forms and shit. I get onto page 10, I feel like someone's hitting me.

Someone's drowning me. Stop! This is boring. I think what it is is you don't want to put your brain on that low an RPM where you're just reading this and reading that and making sure

this is okay and making sure that's okay. Tell that to every teacher that I fucking have worked with, you know, square pegs in round holes, man. That's what it is. You know, the big fucking problem with teachers is they're trying to turn everybody into a robot that assumes a job out there in the world. And there's people with unique personalities that could be artists and no one recognized that.

Whether it's a martial artist or a fucking singer or a comedian no one looks at that as a viable path for uh you know a job you know so teachers want you to be able to get a job they want you to to do you know what it takes to you know get a job at some company and and move on well let's be honest i most people that's what they're gonna do that's what you have to do. I mean, you can't cater most schoolwork to anyone who's an artist, but there should be some way to recognize when someone's unusual. There should be some way to recognize.

And part of it is that the kids don't have any discipline, and that's why they're fucking going squirrely, and that's why they can't read, and it's probably their home life. But you're not going to fix that, okay? You could try to square out that fucking round peg and shove them into that hole, but you're only going to get so far.

You know, but then you're trying to say, okay, let's take all the wacky kids and put them in a special class. And let's take all these kids who are definitely going to be construction workers and put them in this class. No, I don't think that. I think there should be other opportunities. Some people don't want to be comedians. Some people don't want to be singers. But there should be some sort of an avenue that you find is interesting, and you can go towards it in school.

You know what I'm saying? But there's no viable option for class clowns, no viable options for disruptive kids. But disruptive kids have something. There's something there. First of all, it's a terrible thing. It's undisciplined. It fucks up the school for the rest of the kids.

It's because one kid is imbalanced, because one kid probably didn't get enough attention at home or one kid had an abusive family. And this is the way he learned how to get attention by lashing out and focusing attention on himself. That said, you got a kid who's willing to do some crazy shit that other kids aren't willing to do now. OK, so you're not going to fix him. You can you can teach him about the consequences of him doing that and how he's fucking it up for everybody else. And that creates bad energy. And this is where we're going to focus your energy.

But you're not going to take away that energy, that crazy energy that some people have. It just needs to be focused. Yeah, that was me, man. I was the kid in high school that was like, if you just applied yourself, Jason. If you just applied. Well, I did. I heard that so many times. Completely different direction. I did fighting.

I started writing. But that's what people don't understand. You apply yourself in that way. Somehow or another, that so many times. Completely different direction. I did fighting. I started writing. But that's what people don't understand. You apply yourself in that way. Somehow or another, that's not valid. Like, because, you know, some art there. No, it doesn't fall into the archetype. Yeah, for me, it was art. I used to draw a lot and martial arts.

So those were the two things. And neither one of them seemed like any sort of a viable career option. There was no money in martial arts. You didn't think of animation being a cartoonist? Because that's what I thought, either a cartoonist or doing radio. So the whole time I'm going to school, I'm like, you know, I don't fucking care about math, history. I'm just going to sleep because I don't care about any of this. I'm never going to use it.

I kind of knew that the whole time. I don't think I ever thought about animation. No. Why did you think about animation? Because I was like a huge Disney fan, cartoon fan. Oh, really? Yeah. Me, I was more comic books.

I loved comic books. Yeah, comic books too. That's how I got into it. Yeah, I definitely had. I was more comic books. I loved comic books. Yeah, comic books too. That's how I got into it. I definitely had aspirations to be a comic book artist. We talked about this on one of the earlier podcasts, but I just had a really douchey art teacher in high school and he had me convinced that I was going to have to draw diaper ads and shit.

Really? Damn, you got some bad teachers. So many people have bad teachers. He wasn't a bad teacher. He's just bad socially. He was a beaten man with no spine. He had a weak will, and he didn't like being around me. I was this martial arts fighter. This kid

who was fighting in Taekwondo tournaments. I always had Taekwondo championship t-shirts on and shit. I was so proud that I won all these Taekwondo tournaments. I would wear Taekwondo shit everywhere. Because that was the first thing I was ever any good at. In high school, I knew that kid. He was the karate champion.

Bro, I begged that kid. When I was like 16, I begged him to spar. Hey, man, can we spar? And I didn't realize that I was scaring him. Because I was like, yeah, yeah. No, we're going to fight. You can kick me and use your karate. And I know how to wrestle.

I'm going to try to fight you. And then we'll see who wins. And I'm telling this to this kid who's sitting there like fuck that. I found out the future of MMA when I was 15 years old when I was a sophomore in high school.

Actually, I think I was 14. My friend Steven Arduino was on the wrestling team. He was a good wrestler and I wasn't wrestling. I was just doing Taekwondo and we were really good friends

and we were always talking about like, you know, if you fight, I'd just fucking take you down and punch you in the face. I'd be like, bitch,

you can't take me down and so we went out in the grass and I'd be like, bitch, you can't take me down. I got fast feet. We went out in the grass, and this motherfucker took me down over and over again. It was so sad because it was so easy for him to take me down. I had no wrestling at all. I had never even thought about wrestling someone except fucking around with my friends. And he just would fucking stand in front of me, put his hand in my face, shoot a double. Bang, I would be on my back.

You kept trying to kick him and stuff? No, no, no. No, no. It was just me stopping. We were friends. It was just me stopping him from taking me down whatever bro you know how i got into mixed martial arts right my fat chubby friend named pierre showed me the ufc the early ones with the fucking head butts and everything and showed me like valetudo brazil and he's like and showed me the newer ufcs at the time. It was, I don't know, 95 or 96. He showed me those.

And Marco Huas versus Paul Marlins. And I was like, yeah. First time we ever saw leg kicks. Yeah, exactly. So I was like, man. I was like, oh, I could do this. And he's like, do you want to spar me? And I'm like, you mean fight in the backyard?

And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll spar. We'll wear protection. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll spar. We'll wear protection. Was this guy a martial artist? I'm going to kill you. I'm like, I fought. You know Bubba?

I beat Bubba's ass in the front yard. This giant, fat, black kid. He's like 300 pounds. He's like the scariest dude. I beat the shit out of him because I knew how to fight. I would always spar around with my dad. So I knew how to box and stuff and whatever. We go out in the backyard. Like I would always spar around with my dad. So I knew how to box and stuff and whatever. We go out in the backyard.

I had this break dancing mat that I had. We laid that down on top of the grass so we had some padding because I knew I was going to fuck him off. Man, we squared off in our hockey chest protectors. He fucking spin kicked me in my bread basket. I was like, oh, I've never been kicked like that. I like oh my god so i went to the miller the miller standby and it's the move i always did my dad taught me it it worked all the time one two and if that didn't knock him down on the ground you grab his head which i did and threw him down on the ground i did that and started fucking wailing on him like i was like i'm winning i'm winning he starts wiggling around and shit and the next thing i know he locked me up and i'm

fucking waking up in my backyard looking at the trees like quiet like and he's looking down at me and i'm like oh my god he's like wow that was a triangle choke and that i learned that in gracie jiu-jitsu that was the first time I ever did that to somebody. I'm like, fuck, I get to learn this shit. He's tiny. He beat my ass. So you guys just decided to fight. Yeah, my dad was looking out the window laughing at me like,

you fucking idiot. I'm like, man, I was sleeping. I was like, I never knew that there was some magical shit. Once we're on the ground, I just figured it's like wrestling. I wrestled a little bit in high school and I figured, you know, until I realized you have to wear those tight ass pants and I quit. And then I was like, wow.

He just, he beat me. He was on his back. I was winning. I was winning. And I saw that on, I saw Hoyts Gracie do it, but I was like, yeah, right. It's just because he's wearing the stupid pajamas. It's such a fun thing to be able to do to people. You know, you don't realize how powerful Jiu-Jitsu is. You don't know how crazy wrestling is.

When you get in a nightclub altercation and you push somebody off balance, like, oh my god. They look like Bambi on the ice. Their feet are all slipping because they don't know how to stand. Oh man, you're on the floor. Those leather shoes are so ridiculous.

Wearing leather shoes is just going out in handcuffs. I wear pro wrestling boots when I go out to the club. Yeah, yeah. No doubt. Pro wrestling all day, at least up to the knee. Wait a minute. For real? No, get out of here.

You wear pro wrestling shoes? No, I call them pro wrestling boots because, dude, they're called jump. But you weren't. No, they're tennis shoes, but they look like classy-ass shoes, and then they they lace up to like super high chicks love when I was young I was so stupid every time I bought a pair of pants I would have to make sure that I could kick somebody in the head Yeah, that's on like practice type window kicks with my fucking pants on just to make sure if some shit goes down I'm gonna make sure you know, yo, you know my old man

He's an army for years, 20 years, stuff like that. And he was like a legit motherfucker, like went to war and killed people, whatever. He's like kind of bad. He's an old fucking fat bastard now. But he went to Korea, you know, to like, I don't know, whatever, training or whatever. And he had a post up at the Korean border, you know, like they do that over there. He's there. He tells me when he comes back. back and i'm like 11 he's telling me this story man boy i was in a bar out there this little chinese guy i'm like dad you're in korea little chinese guy got into it

with me kicked me in the fucking face i'm like what what do you mean he fell down he's like no he kicked me in the face he bought me a Taekwondo uniform. I was like, you need to practice this. And I was like, I don't know, like 10. And I went to Taekwondo. Because of that story, my dad got kicked in the face by a Taekwondo guy. Yeah. I can imagine your dad looking out the window laughing while you're unconscious.

Over the sink. Over the sink. And he's laughing at me. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And I'm like, damn. But you need a dad like that to become a Jason Mayhem Miller. A regular dad is not going to make a guy like you. No, I know.

It's not possible. You know what? I remember the Brazilians when I was doing tournaments all the time, when I was real young, 18, 19, the Brazilians got a crazy story of me because I would always tell these stories where me and my dad would fight and whatever, and we'd get into it, or we'd spar around, and it would start off as a joke, and then it would fight and whatever and we'd get into it or we'd spar around and we'd start off as a joke and then it would get real like we'd fucking really fight

and I would tell those stories to the Brazilians and then it got a story like, man, I heard that Jason Miller, his dad would hit him with beer bottles to make him tougher. I'm like, what? That's like the most American Indian sounding Brazilian accent ever. You sound like fucking Tonto and shit. I heard one time

eagles came from north. My bad. My accent sucks, but you get the point. The guy was like, yeah, everybody thought that my dad beat the shit out of me. He did, but it was a lot of times it was like, I remember we were getting into it in the kitchen,

and I was fucking fighting with him, and then he grabbed me around and like, it was, we didn't call it rare naked choke. It was a sleeper hold. He got me in a sleeper hold. I was like choking and I wouldn't quit. And he's like,

boy, tap out, boy, tap out. You know? And I, I was like, I don't know,

14, 15. And I was like, he's choking me and choking me. And I was like, fuck that. I'm not going to tap out. You know?

And, and, and I just remember finally he let me go. Cause he's like, ah, that's enough. But it was too late. I remember reaching for the refrigerator handle and then waking up in condiments.

Like, he put me out. I was, like, covered in, like, the fucking mayonnaise and shit, mustard. I'm like, damn. And he's laughing. Because my mom's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, dad took me out. And he was laughing? Oh, yeah.

Was this an actual fight fight? No, no, we're playing. Just playing. We're playing. But listen, man, in redneck culture, you have to understand that there's a line that's drawn. You're playing, and then you're not really playing anymore. And then it comes from one step from somebody biting somebody or something like that. That's how people get shot.

Yeah, exactly. And I can understand that. I'm proud. I'm proud that I came from such a strange background. Like, I don't care. Like, I'm a professional fighter. I'm not a goddamn kindergarten teacher. One time my dad threw a Jolly Rancher at me and hit me in the eye.

God, you're homosexual. Not in the fashionable way. Did you eat it? No, it hurt. Did you cry? No, I didn't cry. Just eat it. Eat it while you're crying?

It stung. Just look him in the eyes and eat it while tears roll down your face. What did you do to get a Jolly Rancher to the eyepiece? It fucking stung. He totally overthrew it and hit me right in the eye. Wait, he was throwing it to you? Yeah, they're like, hey. Oh, God, his story's even worse.

There's no even abuse in this story. No, his dad's got a hard underhand, dude. It stung. It stung. It's a vicious wrist action. He played softball in college, right? Yeah, his underhand is a motherfucker. You ever see those chicks that throw a wicked softball underhand?

You ever see the rubber band thing that makes them throw harder? Yeah, I saw it on late night TV. Yeah, always. Who the hell? Why are softball players watching ESPN at midnight? How fast can they throw that underhand? I don't know. Probably like 60 miles an hour.

But the thing is, they could do it all day. It's like a way more natural movement than like a regular pitcher. Like a pitcher, that shit blows your shoulder out. But this shit doesn't blow your shoulder out at all. I don't know if it's that they're throwing it harder. I think it's the mechanism of moving your arm that way. Are you saying that there will be some kid from Little League up who's been taught underhand? And think about this.

With a big juiced out arm, he could throw that shit super hard. I wonder. I wonder because it doesn't seem like girls can do that shit all day and it doesn't blow their arm out. But I think there's something about throwing like that. I think you can get more velocity.

Especially naturally. But I think it blows your shoulder out. I have like flexible tendons and shit. Like a real flexible. When I throw a fucking baseball, my arm feels like it's going to blow out of its socket. My dad, the same thing. He got out of ranger school.

He didn't make it through ranger school. He couldn't throw the fucking grenade right. Same shit. Wow. The bad shoulder. And when he talks about flexible tendons, you can see that shit online. If you watch his fight,

was it Super Raw or Icon? All my fights, man. All my fights. With Egan. Egan Inouye. He twists my arm backwards. I was like, oh my God, he's going to break it off. And Icon? All my fights, man. All my fights. But with Egan. Egan Inouye. He twists my arm backwards. I was like, oh my God, he's going to break it off. And I just toughed it out.

And then I got up and I was like, oh, it's good. And I just went and bashed the guy with that same hand that he was twisting. It's the most ridiculous Kimura defense ever. Have you ever seen it? You rolled. How many times did you roll? Oh, man, so many. I was like, I didn't even know how to roll it.

Egan Inouye, who's this badass jiu-jitsu black belt, bad motherfucker, yoked-ish fuck. Yeah, he was legendary. When I was fighting him, I was like, damn, this guy's a legend. You fought him in Hawaii, too. Yeah, where they hated me. They were telling me to die how he died. I'm like, oh. But, dude, Hawaii is a crazy-ass place.

Yeah, bike culture. Also one of the most peaceful people ever. Hawaiians? Yeah. Hawaiians are all just all about love and peace. They're like hippies that live in their own island. Hawaiians beat the fuck out of each other. They do in movies.

No, no, no. There's videos in real life. There's definitely parts of people, but the Hawaiian community as a whole, I think. Well, people are friendly, but that doesn't mean that they don't beat the fuck out of each other. Yeah, well, there's people beating the crap out of everyone. Well, people are friendly, but that doesn't mean that they don't beat the fuck out of each other. People beating the crap out of everyone.

No, no, no. But what I'm saying is people in Hawaii are notorious for wanting to fight. It's like a part of their culture. If you go online,

there's all these backyard fights. Hawaiian backyard fights, dude. There's so many of them. Beach fights. There's thousands of them. Beach fights and backyard fights where dudes meet after school,

kids meet after school, and they just have MMA fights, bare knuckle, they just duke it out on the grass. In Hawaii, it's super common. Would you say that if you talk to most people, like, how was your trip to Hawaii brought up? Yeah, but you're going to the resort and, you know, it's tourism. Oh, I'll tell you a story about that. The first time I fought in Super

Brawl, here's a perfect example, okay? The first time I fought in Super Brawl, I got cut above the eye. I was walking around Waikiki, and some kid was like, Hey, man, you that guy from SuperBrawl, huh? And I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up, dude? And he's like, Oh, bro, what's up? Oh, man, yeah, man, I'm tough. I'm tough.

And I'm like, Oh, cool, bro. He's like 16 years old, 15 years old. Some fat white tourist is walking down. He's like, Whoa, bro, what? Watch this. And he walks over and bends down like he's tying his shoe. And he's like looking at his peripheral vision, sees this guy walking.

He stands up and the guy bumps into him. Oh, sorry, man. This Hawaiian kid starts beating the shit out of him. You know, he's young. He's so young that it's not really hurting him, like not really hurting the guy. But the guy's like, oh, stop. And he's got a buddy with him.

It doesn't help him at all. The kid starts, in Hawaiian, you call it false cracking the guy. It's a sucker punch. He gets up and sucker punches the guy. The guy goes, ah. He grabs on his backpack and starts jump kicking him, jump kicking him. The guy starts running up. He goes, ah, this is my first trip to Hawaii.

I was like, oh, my God, Hawaiian people are crazy. Do you remember Forgetting Sarah Marshall? I think so. The movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall, there was the bartender who was super cool doing it. Yeah, that was the part of the movie I was talking about. Afterwards. Maybe from the movies. That's what I was talking about.

No, but afterwards, the guy kicks his ass. That's like real life. Yeah, well, I mean, why? I've never heard anyone ever say, I went to Hawaii to do this fucking fight. Brian, but you're talking about going to Hawaii where you go to resorts. Yeah, come on.

Not necessarily. Why? Go hang out with BJ Penn. Acapulco, the most beautiful people are the nicest people ever. But I go up to Tijuana, I bet you they'll try to gut me. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, dude, when you talk to BJ Penn, like BJ Penn talks about growing up in Hawaii, he says there's nothing to do. Everybody just fights. I'm just saying, if you're in that road, like BJ Penn talks about growing up in Hawaii, he says there's nothing to do. Everybody just fights. I'm just saying if you're in that world, it's definitely more in your face than if most people go into the store in a suburban neighborhood in Hawaii or something like that. Dude, no one's saying that Hawaii people are douchebags.

No one's saying that it's a bad place to live. No, no. I can explain that. They like to fight. I live there too. It's kind of the culture that, oh, bye, you want to throw down. So what? And there's a mutual, like, let's fight. I live there too. It's kind of the culture that, oh, you want to throw down? So what? And there's a mutual, like, let's fight.

Nobody shoots each other. It's like, let's fight. We'll fight. And then we'll end it out. Oh, he kicked his ass. And then you get the coconut wireless. Everybody knows about it. He kicked his ass.

And it's just the culture. And I think that most islands. That's where BJ Penn came out of. You know, it's just the culture, you know. And I think that most islands... Well, that's where BJ Penn came out of. Yeah. BJ Penn came out of that sort of, you know, that kind of competition is what started his MMA career, that he was this bad motherfucker that would step to anybody and fight anybody.

Yep. He took pride in that, you know, and that's why he became an MMA champ. You know, when you're stuck on a fucking island like the Big Island and there ain't that much people and everyone's just jammed in together on this rock, you know, tensions run high. Oh, man, I lived there, too. It's a strange, strange different place because you're on this tiny island, and it's small. Because even though it's a million people or whatever, whatever circles you run in are tight-knit because everybody knows everybody. Right.

It's weird. So there must be a lot of bullshit between, like, dudes and girls. Oh, my God. Epic amounts. I can go on for days. I would imagine because everybody knows everybody. And you're like, that dude's fucking her. Like when someone breaks up,

they break up and then she goes out with someone you know. Some dude that went to high school with that other guy. It's so weird. It's weird. That causes tensions.

Painful. And you lived on the big island or no, you lived on Oahu? No, I lived on Oahu, yeah. It's like the main island. Isn't it crazy that the smaller, it's not a big island. It's not that big.

No, it's not that big but it's like the most, I don't know why it was the biggest one that developed island. It's not that big. No, it's not that big, but it's like the most, I don't know why it was the biggest one that developed quickest. It's so weird. Most of the times when I got to Hawaii, I went to the big island. I went to Maui. I went to Kauai.

But when I went to, oh, I went to, what's the other one? There's a little small one. I forget which one it is. Molokai? No. Oh, I have no idea. Lanai. Oh, Lanai.

But when I went to Honolulu, I was like, God damn, this is like a city. It is. It's America. It's America on wheels. It's America with Asians. America is paradise, though. Yeah.

It's the weirdest city ever. It's like a fucking Blade Runner movie. Yeah. It's like here you are in this city with this incredibly beautiful weather with this amazing ocean. Like, you are right there. It's a city somehow or another,

but it's not that polluted. Yeah. You know, the ocean's not that polluted. Because it's just washing off. Would you say Kauai is the best? Kauai is like Jurassic Park. Yeah, it's all lost. Lanai was gorgeous, too.

Lanai is really small. I imagine Lanai is even less developed than Kauai. Kauai is like, there's one road that goes everywhere. I think Lanai only has like 3,000 people that live on it, or 30,000 or something tiny. And it's all like the staff of the first season.

They're all throwing down. They did look a little fucking spaced out when I was asking for directions. There's fucking three roads and this bitch couldn't tell me how to get to the hotel.

It's just like, oh no, I think, what street is it at? You know what, here's the thing about that. When I lived in Hawaii,

bro, I can't tell you what street to turn on. I can tell you to get to the Waikiki, you got to go down. There's a 7-Eleven at the end of this one road. You take a right there. You keep going down. It turns into a one-way. And you take a right at Zippy's. And then there you're in Waikiki.

Oh, I see. So you don't – It's not – nobody knows the road names because they're Malakalikimaka And Kanamahohe I'm like what? Nobody even knows the name of this road How crazy is it that Hawaii is a part of America But it's five hours away on a fucking plane Alaska

Alaska is not as crazy At least it's land mass You can drive to Alaska But there's something in the middle of it There's land in the middle of it That makes no sense We gotta have our ass covered on all sides But there's something in the middle of it. There's land in the middle of it. That makes no sense. That's crazy. Totally ridiculous.

It's not attached. We've got to have our ass covered on all sides. Oh, for sure. But it's incredible that we can call that American. It's five hours away on a fucking plane. And then Guam is like sort of America, right? So is Puerto Rico, buddy. Yeah.

Puerto Rico is like sort of America. Puerto Rico is like considered America, though. But they don't pay taxes, so they don't want to be part of America but are you allowed to be from Puerto Rico and just immigrate to America I think so

how's that work I think so too right that's why there's so many Puerto Ricans especially if you go to New York oh yeah oh for sure Don Gavins is a fucking

comedian from Boston old school legend he used to have this joke about he's this real fast talking Boston guy he's like if I went to Puerto Rico and I didn't like Puerto Rico

Too many fucking Puerto Ricans I don't even know How they afford it It's so expensive Mayhem You've been doing Stand-up comedy lately Yeah yeah yeah

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Just crash it. That'll be fun. R is probably listening right now. There he is. He's eating pizza. Jerking off. No, he's not.

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This one make my cock feel so yummy. Yeah, right? Imagine if some dude did fuck it because he knew it was going to him. He had to. Imagine if he knew it was going to him. Quality insurance to. Imagine if he knew it was going to him. Quality insurance. Yeah, I mean, he can't have a faulty fake vagina. Can you imagine that job?

But that was your job. You had to do that all day long. You had to keep on getting boners. Like, oh, good. That's ridiculous. Oh, good. Oh, my God. There's probably a job like that.

I'm appalled at this podcast. I think we've reached the bottom. Yes, we have. This is it. This is the end of the line. So you have a website, right? MayhemMiller.com. MayhemMiller on Twitter.

Yeah, I'm MayhemMiller all across the board. MayhemMiller everywhere. You don't use MySpace anymore, do you? What's MySpace? I feel bad. I know that there's chicks out there that want to bump me on MySpace, but I can't even go on there. I can't even go on there. I can't even go on there.

When you see a girl that's still on MySpace, like, this is my MySpace. That might be a girl that's retarded. Oh, totally. Lower percentage for sure. Something's wrong with her. You're elite if you're not on MySpace. Unless she's picking up the – she's king of the scraps. Yeah, yeah.

There might be like, dude, I am the most popular person on MySpace right now. Yeah, she's like the new Tila Tequila part three. I've got 4,000 friends. She's got 4,000 active friends. A lot of girls claim 4,000 friends. I got no bots on Vine. Yeah, who the fuck is left on MySpace? Only people whose computers can't even work.

I'm going to go back, log into mine. They're so old, they can't even work Facebook. Our friend just quit MySpace. He used to work there. And now I could finally get rid of my MySpace. I don't feel bad. Because I only held on to it, I think, because of him. I've hoped that MySpace is going to make a comeback.

Because back in the comedy store days, MySpace packed that fucking place all the time. That was responsible for getting, you know. You think it's harder to promote on Facebook? No, no, no. The best is Twitter. Twitter is the best. Yeah, Twitter's fun, dude. I like talking to people.

I like people send me some shit and I send it back to them. Yeah, you know what I'm pissed off about is your fans are way smarter than mine because you always get cool shit sent to you. And I'm like, what the fuck? Well, I send cool shit to them too, though. Whenever I find any cool video online, I always tweet it. I always tweet it. So they tweet shit like that back to me. But I find out all about a lot of cool articles and cool science developments and shit.

I find out a lot of that stuff by people on Twitter. You know what? I find it out because of you, usually. Get in there, son. I'm like, man. It's a chain of information we all share in. I know. I'm like stoked every time you come up with a, oh, cool, Joe Rogan put an article, and I click and read it.

There's always so much cool shit on the internet, man. Yeah, it's the best. Have you seen the Deepak Chopra, so much cool shit on the internet, man. Yeah, it's the best. Have you seen the Deepak Chopra, Sam Harris debates? Oh, yeah, yeah. Sam Harris has some other dude with him.

I forget the dude's name. And Deepak Chopra had this crazy cat lady with him. And they're debating God and it's some brilliant shit, man. Sam Harris is a brilliant, brilliant motherfucker. He wrote that really good book,

Letters to a Christian Nation. He's just this skeptic, atheist character, but a really reasonable dude. Have you that really good book, Letters to a Christian Nation. He's just this skeptic, atheist character, but a really reasonable dude. Have you seen Dawkins versus... I can't remember. He did a few where he was kind of... He did one with Deepak Chopra, but I didn't like his arguments against Deepak.

It was very short. The clip that he used online or in his documentary was very short. It was just mostly mocking Deepak. But then when Deepak talked to him, Deepak was actually pretty reasonable about what he was saying. They were talking about states of mind and mood and the ability to help diseases and cause diseases like bad states of mind. Which I definitely think I agree with. Yeah, I think so.

I think negative people, like negative energy has manifested itself in stress. Stress manifests itself in misfiring. No, I've had injuries before where the injury, I don't even notice because I just got a caveman brain where I get hurt and I just ignore that part of my body. I'll step on something and have a bloody foot and just keep ignoring it until I have to go to the hospital. So I kept doing that, but I didn't realize it puts stress on your body. And then I got super sick. And I'm like, why am I sick and got a hurt knee? It's because you get in this mind state of being just totally like feeling bad and irritated and hurt.

And then your body breaks down. Yeah, you need positive energy and a good feeling of enjoyment of your life, appreciation for everything. All that good stuff makes you feel better, makes you lighter. It makes you have to work less hard. It makes life less taxing. When I'm going through a lot of bullshit in my life, man, I'm tired all the time, you know. It's a lot of energy gets used up by that. Don't you find that?

Like if you're in like a bad personal situation that you're fucking tired all the time? Oh, totally. It's depression usually, you know? I mean, it's depression. It's depression, but it's also energy. Just bad feelings. Somebody hates you.

Someone's mad at you. Yeah. Well, at the risk of sounding like a hippie, yeah, energy is everything. Yeah. Yeah, it's totally sounding like a hippie. The problem is hippies fucked up a lot of cool shit. I know, yeah.

You know what I do? The thought of a hippie, because I've met awesome hippies, but the thought of a hippie is this silly week. All he does is lay around in the fields and smoke weed. There was a lot of hippies in Boulder.

When I was in Boulder, I got annoyed with a lot of hippies. This idealistic, stupid point of view. Yeah. Like to trespass on your property and go, are you denying us access to the woods? I'm like, you fucking douchebag. This is my yard. Get out of here, asshole. I bought the woods.

Sorry. It's a big yard, but it's my fucking yard. How about use the woods over there where it's just the woods, you douche? Yeah. Well, I mean. Oh, but the North Trail, this is an awesome trail. Yeah, that's why I fucking paid $16,000 a month, you shithead. Smithers.

Smithers, Mr. Smithers. Yes. Get the fuck out of here. Release the hounds. No, man. It's like you want privacy, man. Look, you're living in the woods. He's got his bull mastiff tearing apart hippies in the fucking yard.

Yes, yes, I got hippies. My Bill Mastiff is a nice dog. He's cool. I mean, tearing apart hippies in the fucking yard. Yes, yes, I got hippies. My bull mastiff is a nice dog. He's cool. I mean, he lets you know when people are there, but he's not scary. I like to wrestle those dogs. My pit bulls, when I used to have pit bulls, that was like having monsters. That was like I kept monsters as pets. You know, I was running.

All right, so I was in Hawaii on the North Shore, and this dude's house I was going to, apparently he was a famous drug dealer or something like that. Oh, no. Something like that. And my friends went in ahead of me. I my swim shorts and i got it and i walked in by myself and across this giant yard a fucking giant pimple sprinting at me and i was like fuck and i was already in the gate like there's i couldn't run outrun him at this point i was like fuck so i got i got like a fuck what do i do what do i What do I do? And I was like, stay calm. And I went, fuck it.

I went, bro, bro, bro. Like that. He barked at him. He stopped in his tracks and barked at me. We were best friends after that. Like, it was the weirdest thing ever. Well, sometimes they'll bark at you. They just want to get close to you and make sure you're okay.

Yeah. And then they're friendly. You never know. I barked at him. He barked at me. And then I went, here's my hand. Pickles are some of the smartest fucking coolest dogs as pets, but it's such a pain in the ass because they just want to fight other dogs.

Like, they're always – it's like hanging out with a crazy dude. Trying to be alpha. Just itch your butthole and let them smell your finger. It works also. Oh, Brian, you did it again. How dare you? That doesn't make sense. Yeah.

It's like smelling the ass of a dog. If you let them smell the stink that's coming off your ass of a dog if you let them smell this so you're telling me that you're an asshole you normally respect whenever you see a meat dog you finger blast your own ass like this smell this okay cool what if he decides to attack and bite your hand it never happens they they sit they go into smell mode well i mean first of all they're not gonna bite yeah it's crazy like ass so you're being honest yes like actual advice totally totally try it out if you see a pit bull charging at you, fucking grab your asshole, put a finger in, let it smell it, make sure it's working. I think your theory is faulty and you need to try it on some other dogs.

What do dogs do when they see other dogs? How many dogs have tried to attack you? You might have gotten lucky. You're just used to smelling. All right. I'm just, don't do it. Don't. He's just grabbing his ass.

Dig your ass in the room. Oh, he did it. Oh, he licked it. What? This fucking show is over, ladies and gentlemen. That's the end. This is the end of the line. I can't even believe he made a dog smell his butt from his own fingers.

Go wash your hands, son. You're touching the microphone. I just licked it. What the fuck, Brian? Oh, this is so nasty. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for tuning in. Thanks to our buddy, this is so nasty. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for tuning in. Thanks to our buddy Jason Mayhem Miller for coming on and being one of the best fucking guests we've ever had on the podcast. Thanks, man.

Goddamn outstanding. Good stories. He's a real dude. You can catch him on Twitter, Mayhem Miller on Twitter, mayhemmiller.com. Of course, Bully Beatdown. How many seasons have you done? The third now. Going into the third season, ladies and gentlemen.

DVR that shit. You know you're going to watch it. And look for him in Strikeforce in October against some unknown victim. We'll see what's up. Jason Mayhem Miller representing Brian Reichel for everybody. Thank you very much for tuning in, and we'll see you sexy bitches next week. Love y'all.