The Joe Rogan Experience - #325 - James Thompson

Episode Date: February 19, 2013

James “Colossus” Thompson is a mixed martial artist from England. He has previously fought in Dream, Pride, the SFL.

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Powerful James Thompson. Welcome aboard, sir. Thank you very much for coming on, man. I was very excited to talk to you. I know this is going to be fun because you're a character that I've enjoyed for many, many years in the world of mixed martial arts.

I remember the first fight that you had with alexander milianenko and pride when you came i don't remember it that's the problem then that's where i went wrong you went bananas man you took it to 100 miles an hour from the moment the bell rang and you just redlined that bitch and you know it didn't i mean it was a crazy fight but you'd only when that fight happened you'd only been doing martial arts training for a short amount of time, right? I'd been doing it for a year and a half. I know. How it worked out, I was, I didn't do anything before,

apart from, before my first fight, I hadn't done anything, apart from, I don't know, six months wrestling, good wrestling. And then I saw MMA, put myself in for a contest six weeks later, and I thought to myself, we're doing, it wasn't like a camp, it was a class three times a week, and I did other things, so different cardio, different this, different that. So that's what I did. I made it, put it all together, did my class over MMA.

And then after like three, four weeks, I thought, I'm ready for a fight. Not because I'm arrogant or- You wanted to test yourself. Well, I just thought, I didn't realize how much there was to it. I didn't get how deep it was. So looking at it from the outside- Well, I've seen a little bit simple yeah well you're a huge guy yeah so your whole life you've been a huge guy i'm sure so

you're probably not used to being around you were small and small if that makes sense but you know like so your your your look at the the sport of mma was not from, you know, from a position of like, why don't I fucking do this? Like I'm designed for this shit. Well, kind of because I always wonder why did I never do boxing?

Right. Why didn't you? What did you do when you were young? You look like you picked up a lot of heavy shit. Did you do that? Video games. No, no.

Yeah, I did, didn't I? It looked like it was like I was looking back having a flashback to being molested or something. Like I was going to start breaking down in tears. You know, if you don't know, what have I opened here? What sports did you do? Rugby. I was very good at rugby. Oh, rugby.

Rugby, in my opinion, sacrilege. People will say sacrilege. It's just inherently more badass than football. Okay? Well, there's no question. This pad thing is ridiculous, and I know we've accepted it. Pads, they wear the football players, the pads and the helmets and shit. Oh, American football.

Yeah, American football. Right. Not soccer. Not soccer. We call it soccer, obviously. But American football, the idea is ridiculous. Pad yourself up and run at each other full clip. Rugby, to to me is like,

you got like a little leather thing in your head. No, sometimes they have that. Sometimes to protect your ears from falling off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they don't go fucking colored. It's just more badass. It seems like a more badass sport, you know? I think different ways.

I mean, like rugby is fucking tough. Yeah. I don't know if some people, some guys have you know professional fighters and they're obviously doing other things and rugby will be one of them and i'll talk oh yeah i had a rugby and i went you play rugby and you fight wow fuck you get an injury so weak because people step on you oh yeah you don't give a fuck when you go on the screen they got they said they got the heels on there oh yeah i when i when i first

started playing i couldn't believe it. I was getting stamped. And I thought, why are you fucking stamping me? Yeah. I ended up having a fight on the pitch. It's really common to have fights in rugby, isn't it? Really common. Which is so aggressive.

Because I was stamping you. Yeah, it's so close to a fight. It's like three quarters of a fight, you know? You get in the scrubs. It's like three quarters of a fight you know you get into scrubs it's like three quarters of a fight going on it's amazing that it's not like a constant like i didn't enjoy the game or i didn't well i mean i i you know i've i've i've enjoyed football games before it's not that i don't get the appeal of watching like a great football player i absolutely do but i'm like i would love to see those athletes play rugby I would love to see what would happen if they were banned in football.

I think it's fun to watch. It's craziness, man. Yeah. Posh people do it. Posh people? Yeah, in England. I love that word, by the way. Posh.

Posh people. That's such a fucking great way of describing things. English has such a few words that I've really like if started to appreciate literally like proper like oh that's a proper diet that's a proper car you know proper is a that's a badass word it's a badass word and posh is another one i like posh it's posh and i mean sometimes if you feel advantage proper posh oh proper posh is? Yeah, that's when you go over someone's house and they got a peacock. That shit's proper posh. Dudes have like fucking statues of themselves in the fountain.

And they're a merman, you know? You ever seen those guys? I know a couple that has a fucking mural in their house where he's a merman and she's a mermaid. He's a super duper billionaire he has uh statues of her he created a statue of her in a fountain wow yeah he had he has this matt she's very pretty and you know i guess he's like super psyched he gets to fuck her and he has these paintings all over the place of the two of them and one that's a merman and a woman, a mermaid. It's so crazy.

There's a guy in England. He's like a, you know, lock stock gangster bloke. Right. He bought a boat. I can't remember what it was called. Anyway, he has got on the side of his house him as King Arthur on a horse with his wife. And, you know, the spear like that. You know, but do you know, he's not inside his house. He's King Arthur.

Yeah, but he's not inside his house. It's fucking outside his house. No! It's outside. So everyone can see it. He can't even fucking see it. So you can see it. So he's just sticking his dick out of his front yard.

What a crazy asshole. It's not sticking his dick out of his front yard. What a crazy asshole. It's not actually his dick. Oh, my God. Did you think I meant his dick? No, but I'm saying, you know, like, that's what he's doing by having that representation of him as a famous figure. I didn't look at that fucking deep into it, Joe. That's a dick thing. When it all boils down to being a dick thing.

Yeah, that is for sure. You know? Crazy asshole. People are so nuts, man. when it all boils down to being a dick thing yeah that is for sure you know crazy asshole people are so nuts man he's pretty well known he's kind of like celebrity do you remember when lee murray had that mural made of him triangling jorge rivera that's what i was going to mention but because i know leonardo i love that guy oh wow he's a character i know he's a criminal and all that jazz and he's done a lot of bad things i understand i mean i wouldn't want to be on his bad side that's for sure but he's so entertaining man so crazy he's i mean i i he trained at london shoot where i used to train um i started training just after he left but I did do a like a game, a video game shoot

with him and it was just after he'd been stabbed and he'd come out of the hospital, he was very thin looking I'm used to seeing him like everyone else at events around and that and he was quite, not muscular

but lean and healthy and when I saw know quite no not muscular but lean and right right and healthy and um when i saw him he just looked very very drawn and yeah fucking hell and that's what he lives every day you know that kind of shit getting stabbed shooting like yeah literally some of the stories and you know stories are go over the top and people get carried away especially when you're telling gangster stories but there's some from so many good people who I know who are there, and they're like, fucking hell, really? Like, having massive fights,

fucking punching through a car window. Well, that's everybody found out about him because of the street fight with Tito Ortiz that allegedly, you know, Tito has one version of it and Pat Miletic and the other guys that were there have another version of it. But the bottom line was somehow, so they got in some sort of a fight. Yeah, I don't believe Tito has one version of it and Pat Miletic and the other guys that were there have another version of it. But the bottom line was somehow – so they got in some sort of a fight. I don't believe Tito's.

I could never say. It wasn't there. But – I heard you were there, Joe. I wasn't that? I heard you started it. I didn't. These are untruths.

Hey, hey, hey. I'm just saying what I heard. These are untruths. I'm just saying what I heard. But he was a part allegedly of – a lot of people don't know the story the biggest bank robbery in the history of england right yeah no no day it is fucking crazy if you look at the security cam footage it's like you're looking at sylvester stallone movie like it don't even like a guy ritchie movie it's like it's not this is not this can't be real they can't be dressed with ski goggles on and commando outfits and machine guns and they can't

be really robbing a bank because this is just bananas the way they did it it's a bank apparently which didn't have that much security and the reason why apparently they didn't have that much security so no one knows where it is that's why it's that's like so it's a blank building with obviously it's going to be fucking secure but not ultimate because they don't want to attract attention to it so no one and now that's why they're thinking it's got to be an inside job which you kind of look at anyway i think a lot of that stuff is probably inside jobs if you're making 50 grand a year and you're working in a place like that you know how much does that fuck with your head could you imagine you can see that money going back and forth every day like that you're standing there

watching it and you're just a banker and you're a banker and you're like how do i ever get rich as a banker yeah i mean it's right in front of my face and you got a crazy cousin you tell that crazy cousin when you're drinking i mean it would be a way we could rob it i mean we shouldn't rob it but next thing nothing your cousin starts bringing out the meth and you're smoking meth with them you're like we're gonna rob this fucking place we're gonna be rich rich i say rich that's i'm there joe i'm there let's go i'm looking up these like they're the fucking meth yeah those are those are uh rock salt because it's like somehow or another it's supposed to give off good energy.

I don't know if that's horse shit or not. But I'm going to go Melissa Etheridge on this bitch and just accept it. It is salt. Yeah. But it's kind of cool. But when have you had him? A couple months maybe, a month or so. So do you feel much good with him?

I'm not sure. I'm feeling pretty good james thompson i don't know if that's i don't know if it's the rocks that's the problem with uh a lot of different things it's like how much of it is a placebo effect why does the fucking placebo effect work that's that's a weird thing man why does that work because you believe it yeah but why does it actually work sometimes because you believe it i but scientifically, what the fuck is going on with your mind that your mind can take a pill and think it does something good? So all of a sudden it does do something good. I mean, that is an amazing property of the human body.

100% it is. And this is what I'm saying. If you believe it, if you – oh, I've gone all Murphy, it's the fucking. You've touched the crystals and you're in the power source right now. Yes, yes, yes. James Thompson, just go with your feelings, man. Express yourself.

Express yourself. But no, when I listened to that podcast, I know, for me, she's quite hippie. Melissa Etheridge. Yes. She was awesome. Great lady. Beautiful person. I saw much of what she said i was like yes she said she said the secret is like the fast like

she liked it but she said it's like the fast food of positive thinking and all that easy fix and i thought what a great way to sum it up yeah i don't know if she's right about her her idea was that you sort of manifest reality from your own mind your imagination but she might be right i don't know i mean i don't necessarily believe it but i don't disbelieve it either i think it's an interesting possibility to consider or it might be a combination of you know random events and how much you guide it with your own thoughts in your own mind the thing well i don't think anyone does and that's the thing but like when i was listening to her and i it was like wow yeah and i'm not agreeing but what scene where she's coming from and yeah okay wow and a lot of it and then but it seemed a bit too definite like that's the way it is and

she would say i think that's the way it is to her. Yes. So therefore it's – Well, I also think she would say it's very self-serving to be – I mean self-serving in a positive way to be definite. Because if you want to believe in something, like if you want to really believe in something, you have to believe in it 100% for it to work. You can't have a placebo effect where – actually, I think that's not true. I think there's been a study that showed that they did give people placebos and tell them there was a placebo and it still had a measurable effect yeah it was uh some pill that they gave like they knew the whole time it was just a fake pill but it still worked but i think those are like the same people that you could hypnotize you know there's some which is most people you can think. But everyone. You can hypnotize everyone. Everybody? Everybody 100%?

You can hypnotize them as long as they're relaxed. See, I've tried. You would say, but you won't relax because I'm going to hypnotize you now. You would definitely tense up. I don't know. I talked to a guy who's a hypnotist and he said that some people you can't hypnotize. Right. That was his words.

But that's because they won't let themselves relax. How do you think it's that? I don't think I would ever let anybody run my thoughts. Exactly. It's not that I wouldn't, it's not that I wouldn't relax.

I'm absolutely, I could absolutely relax, but I would, I'm not really into letting other people run my thoughts. Exactly. Like you're getting sleepy.

No, I'm not. I know what I'm getting, bitch. So if you're there, if you're there, I'm really relaxed. You're not getting into my head. what i'm getting yeah so if you're there if you're there i'm really relaxed you're not getting into my head especially if you think that the guy who's hypnotizing you is dumber than you right like there's no way motherfucker there's no way you're gonna fill my brain up with some dumb dumb shit that's what i see i that's what i'd love to see uh darren darren brown on it do you watch his shit i know i've heard of him oh mate is he

hypnotist as well he's a magician no no no no no it's in between he's kind of like a does both yeah just a super trickster yeah yeah it's a super trickster that is what he is it is he does and some of it he says this is why it's a trick and he'll explain why it's this and why it's that um and the only one he didn't get right and this was the only one he did he hypnotized the guy fucking got him to go to the bank got him to get 10 grand out of his own account then um he said to him he he they got this guy by random and then he took him to a roulette thing and he said, right, I'm going to get your... Oh, the guy was watching on the screen

and he said, I'm going to get your money, I'm going to put it on one number. If it loses, it loses. If it wins, the money's yours. So the guy's like... And he showed him the video of him hypnotising him and that it was his money. Right.

So he's seen that and he's been studying the fucking spins and tapping his foot and doing all this stuff leading up to it. Anyway, when it comes to it, gets it fucking wrong. Gets it fucking wrong. And he gets everything. And then before that, he predicted the lottery numbers, all six of them. Do you know what I mean?

But obviously he said it was a trick or was it at the end it was a little bit no it's a trick well it's gotta be a trick yeah that's why i love penn and teller they tell you what the fuck the trick yeah yeah but but down downbound leaves it i mean so so with the lottery thing i like that because it's like that shows when it comes to like lady luck well fuck you do you know i mean do you do not think you're getting won over on lady luck because she'll slap you down that's the big issue that people have with psychics like if you really were psychic wouldn't you win every lottery like what are you doing stupid you can make a lot of money playing the lottery imagine if you

won the lottery like every week and everybody be like hey asshole what the fuck are you doing they're like dude i'm psychic yeah i wonder how, asshole, what the fuck are you doing? They're like, dude, I'm psychic. I wonder how many times you'd win it before you got bored and you'd do something else. Well, Vegas won't let you win that many times in a row. Like Vegas will kick you out of casinos even if you're not doing anything illegal. Like David Cho, he's been kicked out of casinos. He's just too smart. They're like, you got to get out of here, you fuck.

You're thinking too much and you got a system and it works too well they won't say that to me they won't say that to you they won't kick you out why is that because you're too big nope because i'm giving them lots of money you've given them lots of money yeah because i'm because i started giving them well but if you started winning no man they'd boot you out oh yeah fucking right but you've uh you've had a gambling problem. That's what you're trying to say. Yes, yeah. I'd be there.

They'd be trying to phone me. I'd be, I've got more money to give you. Fuck, I'm not finished losing. Why do you get crazy and gamble so much? I don't know. That's like a question. Well, it's not a question everyone asks us. No one asks us.

But I didn't ask yourself why. I don't know. I'm not copping out here i'm saying maybe some part genetic on my fault you're just being honest about the source yeah yeah but my my father had a my father my dad my dad had a gambling problem do you have a proper gambling problem? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Proper, posh gambling. So he was, and you saw this when you were growing up? No, no, I never met my dad. Oh, really?

Yeah. The first time, I never met him. And do you know what? I never even thought about him because my mom was that good. Wow, that's amazing, man. Fucking hell, isn't it? because my mum was that good. Wow, that's amazing, man.

Fucking hell, isn't it? When you think of it, because... And then, you know, when she met my dad, it was, you know, I was like... I remember, you know, telling my mum, get him over and this and that. Because I just wanted... I wanted that part of the figure, I suppose. But, yeah, the first time I found out my dad was dead

was when my mum came to the door and let her in, which is polite. And then I said to her... Then she said to me, because I didn't know yet, then she said to me, your dad's dead and I went oh right and that was it

and then she told me about the funeral and we went to she picked me up went to the funeral and we were having a coffee and she took a talk about it and then we were laughing after five minutes

not at it just because you just weren't really that sad no so you didn't have a big place in your life i never met him right but when he had a gambling problem is your point yeah and so you feel like it's probably genetic that you have one as well fucking hell fucking hell i just went on such a tangent i forgot we were fucking talking about yeah we're talking

about the gambling so do you like like what is it like you get in casinos and you just can't help yourself you just start playing what do you play blackjack yeah so i got the fucking you got blackjack tattooed on your arm going up in flames wow and then i've got a positive reaffirming message what does it say i'll find strength in pain oh don't laugh i'm fucking you got cards on fire on your arm listen Listen, I got some goofy tattoos, too. It's okay, bro. No, but I don't think of it as goofy. Mine means waterfalls.

Yeah, he thought it was getting his name. Have you gotten one? Yeah, one by a friend who was learning how to tattoo. If you want to really have a laugh, I got... What is that? I got the Serenity Purr. Well, that's not funny. I think that's actually kind of interesting.

They say the funny bit, the dates are crossed out. The dates are crossed out? Yeah, because that was the last time I gambled. But I gambled, so I crossed it out. Oh, wow, and then you make another one? You're going to run out of room, son. Yeah, well, I did run out of room. So every time you...

That date's not gone yet. Wow, so that's not gone yet. Wow. So that's your biggest issue is gambling. Oh, yeah. How long has this existed for in your life? Four years after the Kimball fight. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's when you started gambling like crazy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's when I just... Excuse me. Do you know that there's a study that recently came out that said that there might be a connection between gambling addictions and brain damage? Is it?

Yeah. And brain damage. I'm probably a fucking good test candidate for that. Yeah. You might be, man. I think he's hinting at something no i'm not hinting at anything but it was a uh a recent study i would have to tell you about this i mean if i had known but this um actually it wasn't that recent it was like 2003 but that brain damage and addictive

behavior they believe that there's uh there's a connection between guys who have suffered head impacts. And obviously, you're very functional. It's not like I'm saying that you got brain damage. But everybody who's been hit in the head has a certain amount of brain damage. I'm sure I have brain damage as well. Yeah, I know what you're saying. But that this was a connection between that and pathological gamblers. You know, that's a fascinating connection well i started thinking

through listening to your show all the time um and hearing about the football players and the kind of concussions and things like that and hearing about the depression now i was going through i've been through a very bad depression um and and i wondered if that being knocked out so many times um getting concussions and such, and drug problems I've had. I had a problem with GHB, which is... That's that stuff that makes you sleep? Yeah. I had a problem with that.

And it's not excuses, you know, because it's not like, oh, yeah, that's why I got knocked out loads. I got shit defence and, you know, it's not like oh yeah that's why i got not take loads i got shit defense and you know i'm not not great stand-up okay but on top of that taking that going out and also it's a mental attitude of not concentrating to training as an effect well did you um take it seems like you took fighting like less seriously then than you do now. So when you first started, did you not understand the consequences? Was it a matter of that?

Was it a matter of it just became like something where you just really decided, I got to get dedicated if I want to keep doing this? I took it seriously. I like, I seen it and I knew I wanted to do it. I went to my professional. But you just jumped right in the pride. Yeah, well, because it was just the way

it was. I've been thinking about this. Now, to me I went, I saw it, I thought I can do that and I did it. I kind of believed it and I saw the fight in and I saw Nog and I thought I'm not too far off after this fucking unbelievably

fucking naive and then I went in and I had, I'm not too far off after this fucking unbelievably fucking naive. And then I went in and I had my first fight and I could do it and I thought, yeah, okay, I can do this. And then ten shows later, I'm in the main event against Dan Severn. Loads of people are fucking watching me. And I knew it at that time. At that time, going to the first event, I said to my girlfriend at the time,

I'll be main event. And I'm not like that. But I said it, and I just knew it. And so because I believed it, it happened. Because I made it happen. But also because you're gigantic and you worked out. Oh, yeah. That made it happen.

No, but I didn't work out. It's like if you didn't work out no no i i i was working out because i was training to so i was i trained hard for my first fight but um i've done wrestling before so i was relatively fit but not right but that's the you mean you jumped into the deep end of the pool right away yeah i did yeah that's pretty i mean you fought alexander emelianenko who's a high level mma heavyweight within how many months of you beginning training and striking well i've been fighting for about a year just over a year so say that and but i wasn't training like i didn't have a team right i was still in the little dojos and that and it was all a bit so this is what happens then. You know, you go on your little shows,

you're like, I'm now, I'm ready, I'm now. And I remember watching Emile Nkowani on a video and just like, and I thought, yeah, okay. I was shitting myself, but I was like, yeah, I can do this. Okay, I can do it. That was a crazy fight, dude. That was a crazy fight. You charged after him

bananas but what you saw there was me being serious I didn't sorry serious me that was authentic rage that wasn't

have you seen my video I explain it yeah yeah I did see that video yeah about my brother you make a lot of videos now yeah I'm loving it

you do blogs and stuff and putting them online yeah no I've really enjoyed it. I've been lucky enough. I've got – I met a guy, Cy Pierce, and he directs and does the film. I told him about a few ideas. He came down, started doing these – putting these – my ideas into play, and, yeah, it's going really well.

That's cool man so this um this colossal concerns things that you're doing all these videos and the blogs and everything it seems like you're really excited about this like you're constantly tweeting telling everybody to retweet your shit like pain in the ass man a little bit of pain in the ass about it but i appreciate the i like what you're doing i like that you're very enthusiastic about it that's what i'll take i'll, that's a bit annoying. Sorry, it doesn't annoy me. No.

But it annoys other people. I don't mind. Are you sure? Yeah, it doesn't bother me. I just get scared. Of course. I'm trying to make you scared. I'm trying to make you.

I'll pay people who are asking me to retweet shit. It's normal for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing. I think in the future, that's what will be the – Redband, I'm stealing this off Redband. That's what he said. In the future, it will be – likes will be currency.

Currency, yeah. And that is true. Yeah. That is very true. I really think that that would be the best way to live the life, live the world. If you could actually work it out that way, so like being nice and helping people would give you the most currency.

That would be the most beautiful world ever. It would, but would it be that simple? No, it can't be that simple. We're not living in a goddamn... No, as in people would hack it. There'd be all that kind of fucking bullshit going on. Some wacky coder son of a bitch

would get in there and exert his intellectual dominance over that computer and fucking whack it out and have a billion likes completely glowing you have more likes than there are people so suck it everyone suck it i cracked the code bitch yeah that was that's a it Yeah, that's a beautiful idea. They've got to figure out something better than letting old people just keep it and make everybody else pay interest on it and the federal bank and all this. You see all these big, giant banks that supposedly control these different aspects of our political systems, yours and ours.

Did you see the... You go, what? Off the Federal Reserve, like a partial bit of it got printed and it was trillions of dollars, trillions going to different banks all over. I see what you're saying. Yeah, the secret hidden bailouts

that we didn't know about, the trillions of dollars. What is that? It's crazy. What do you get for that though? What do you get for trillions? It's robbery right in front of It's crazy. What do you get for that, though? What do you get for trillions? It's robbery right in front of your face. But what do you get for it?

You give it to the banks. You bail them out for trillions. What do you get back? Justifiable robbery. That's what it is. They figured out how to jack this system, how to extract insane amounts of cash, how to have these mansions in the Hamptons.

They figured it out, okay? You can't be hating. You've got to throw your system away. It's infested with rats. The system doesn't work at all. But no one's willing to do that. No one is willing to start from zero. If you worked your whole life

and you got 50 grand in the bank, you're not going to give that 50 grand up. And neither is the guy who's got a million dollars in the bank. He's not going to give that million dollars up. What, and we're all going to start at zero get the fuck out of here no fucking we're talking i wouldn't because there's a lot of assholes out there that shouldn't even be at zero they should be like a negative 50 fucking lazy bitches right there's a lot of

people that don't contribute their share so unfortunately capitalism as as it stands right now is what we got let's think no one's caught with a good alternative well we need to it's really silly because in 2013 the idea that this is and i'm not a socialist by any stretch of the imagination i i'm a more of uh i think people need to pull their own weight a lot of people don't i think there's a lot of lazy fucks out there there's a lot of people that just they they lack motivation they lack direction they lack focus they they self-sabotage and you shouldn't reward that i don't think you should reward that but on the other hand this system is fucking crazy this stock market where you're gambling on the ups and downs of con you're owning pieces of companies get the fuck out it's

so complicated no one even knows what it is it's nuts so then inventing stuff i've had friends that are stockbrokers try to explain to me derivatives and i'm like how is that legal how is any of this legal how is shorting legal yeah how is how are lobbyists legal it's like it's a fucking kooky system and you're like well someone should really come in and overhaul it but in order to do that it's almost like that they they must know that it can't keep going on so it's like is it on purpose i think it's an old car that they keep trying to patch up that's what i think you know if you had like a 1950 fucking chevrolet those are boring to drive they suck those old fucking cars, man.

If you had to get on the highway every day and go from like say Sherman Oaks to downtown LA, you had to make that drive every day in the heat in a Model T. You'd fucking hate it. You'd go crazy. Because it's an old piece

of shit. No matter what you do, whether you add a new stereo to it or you fucking put shiny rims on it, it's designed like shit. it's an old piece of shit no matter what you do whether you add a new stereo to it or you fucking put shiny rims on it it's designed like shit it's an old piece of shit you don't want to have to drive an old piece of shit if i give you a nice honda accord you'd be like oh look at this it's quiet air conditioned it doesn't fall when i turn the wheel it doesn't fall on its side those old cars were pieces of shit and that's our system our system is an old piece of shit and we haven't thrown it out yet we haven't just like fucking grabbed it and yanked the gears out and melted it all down and made a new system

if someone comes up with something which works they'll never let them yeah yeah well that's it well it's it's a it's a thinly disguised king and and and disciple situation it's a it's thinly disguised the the people that are in the position of power it's not just one but it's a group that are unquestionably the kings of this country but people it's changing isn't it asquestionably the kings of this country. But it's changing, isn't it? As in, like, with the Internet, with people getting more knowledge, you know, it's filtering through, people are more aware of it. You know, and it's... What are you doing, dude?

I think with the people that are in charge of it, it's... The only thing that's changing is that it's out in the open and then people are just accepting it now with full knowledge. Yeah. Like when you see that people can have – like do you know anything about this Fast and Furious? Do you know what happened? Do you hear about this? With the guns in Mexico. Yeah.

Well, there's a thing called the executive privilege you know like this so the president could say he doesn't want to talk about it so they can just they just say executive privilege that's like cheney and bush not testifying together why why not that's great why not testify together what's the big deal and then why look so fucking shifty about it did you see that yeah? Yeah. And I mean, you can't say, I'm thinking he's lying. They, if they didn't know that something was going to happen, they absolutely did profit on the fact that it did happen. Yeah.

You know? Well, it's there. You can't. You can't deny it. You can't deny it. It's the most obvious Connect the Jots paper trail ever. If you look at, like, Dick Cheney was the head of Halliburton. Halliburton is a company that rebuilds countries after we bomb them.

And that company, the CEO is the vice president and all of a sudden that company is making billions of dollars. Like what are you talking about? See, that's what I wonder. Maybe they knew about it and maybe even helped him a little bit and then that way i'll maybe have a team what do this and they don't really tell them what they're doing either and what it's for and you get the decided effect without everyone knowing what the fuck's going on i would like to tell you that that's not possible that there's no one who'd be willing to do that but the problem with saying that is that the only the only real issue only real issue someone would

have about our government doing that would be that it's sacrificing American lives and that they would kill American lives and let American people die. No, they're here to protect us. So that's the one thing that some people would hold back. But what they undeniably would all agree to is that we don't really have a problem with killing people in other countries we don't really have a problem if we decide that they're the enemy we'll kill you with robots that fly from the sky and shoot rockets indiscriminately into villages okay that's how we'll kill you so the company that's willing to do that let's just say a company let's call it a company instead of a country because it's not really the whole country it's not us

it's it's whoever the fuck is the one who gets to pull the buttons and pull the switches. But that's why I think it can continue. They're willing to do that. I don't think it can. That's why I don't think it can continue. Like you said earlier, well, no, people are just knowing about it and doing nothing. I think eventually they're just knowing about it. I think the next stage is they will not.

That's why they're arming up. They're going to keep going. I think the problem is that it's very hard to stop, and in fairness to the people that are in the military, there's a lot of them that join the military with very good intentions, and they get into that position, and they're stuck in a battle. And it's not them that's the problem. The problem is why were they sent there in the first

place but once you're in once you're in for everyone who's a soldier you know what it becomes man it becomes taking care of your friends that's what it becomes it becomes taking care of your boys taking care of your girls taking care of the people you love those are the people you're with every day in a war zone so it doesn't become about your ideology whether or not you believe in this war it becomes just a battle i mean there's no way around that i was talking to my um my friend who's in the army and you know we were talking he's in the marines and i was saying to him you know we're just having a general discussion about how fucked it is about this and that and you know basically he's doing the government's work

yeah you know and he said to me um you know it's all basically I have I always think I've got to go back because my mates are and make sure they're okay i never thought of it like that he always has to go back and think about his friends yeah always yeah because they've been there you're you're you're fucking bullets are whizzing by you you're you're carrying each other sometimes you know you're you're looking out for each other you're in a war zone that's what it becomes and so the the real issue is well how do you stop the whole thing how do you stop the whole thing? How do you stop the whole thing? Because I don't know if you do because you do a lot of goddamn damage and then people that you did that damage to are always going to want to come back at you. So there's no doubt about it and there's no doubt that this damage has been done.

So it's not an easy thing to step in and sort of settle the world down. But I do agree with you that the internet is changing it to the point where that is the inevitable future i think the realization of what everyone's actions are actually accomplishing and actually doing and what to what detriment you know our actions are it's going to get to a point where things level out much more so than they ever have in the past because governments could do anything behind your back they could do do all kinds of sneaky shit and you could never know about it ever until 50 60 years ago you know and then then people started leaking information as like the

kennedy times that's when people think i mean before that i mean god damn how's the average person get information that there's corruption going on in society how does the average person get that you're not getting a lot of it but you're getting so much of it now. It's like every day on Twitter and every day on Facebook and every day people are emailing people links and Twitter and shit to their friends. And it just gets to a mad frenzy of ideas now to, I don't even think we're aware of how strange it is. I think we're just used to it because we're in it and this is our life now but I think if we looked at life today just a few decades ago we would go this is crazy this is a fucking science fiction

movie with you freaks I mean I came in came in early and I was talking to Brian and then he showed me something did a little fucking video like a seven second line and he was like with the finger doing something and then shows a little film and that's like the next thing other than Twitter or like a video message what last seven seconds

yes it's a video message that last seven seconds it's called Vine and Brian just got into it and apparently a lot of people like this silly shit now. Look it up. That's what I was talking about. Did you splice all this together yourself?

It just does it automatically. It's literally like you just push a button every time you want to record and when you don't push it it just pauses the recording and it makes it animated. So you just smash them all together yourself. Yeah, it just does it automatically. Oh, that's cool.

Ooh, I like it. Ooh, I'm going to start using that shit. It's fun, man. It's really addicting. But what's crazy is everywhere you look, people are vining. And so it's just a bunch of people walking around like this in the air. Is it vine.com? No, it's an app on your iPhone.

Oh, it's an app. Yeah, and it should be coming out on Droid soon. Twitter just bought the company. Does it link up with Twitter? Yeah. Oh, powerful. And you can also send it to Facebook and everything. But it's really fun.

Can I keep my Twitter name? Do I have to register a new name? I think it's – yeah, you can keep your Twitter name. But it's also really weird because I think you can just have a million names. Oh, that's great. Yeah. You're going to get a lot of ass assholes it's really hard to find people as soon as you allow people to be anonymous and you let them have a bunch of different names they're gonna have conversations with themselves

we had a guy on our message board once that they busted doing that he had more than one account and he was like talking like cool like on message boards he would go and like make some a post about his his music and then come back and say hey thanks man i really appreciate that that's so bad that's so bad that i came out i did that it's classic it's hilarious imagine that's what did you do today oh you know just talk to myself but it's kind of funny because it's is that any different than some bullshit commercial that a company puts out you know where you you know you're driving down the street and like i'm so glad that we're here driving on these good year tires because they make me feel secure yeah me too darling that's horseshit too yeah you're getting that projected at you you're not

going out and i'm doing it i guess it's like it's more deceitful it's more well it's more cringe fucking worthy isn't it oh fuck me getting oh yeah oh thank you ever so oh don't go getting what you're like oh you suck imagine if you imagine if you just pissed up and you do what that one time just as a just as a because you were just in one of them stupid moods and it came out that you're doing that you're done son you can't do that you can't explain that one away yeah you gotta take your lumps that's a tough one because people are just not gonna trust you again yeah you know they were talking we were talking yesterday with uh my friend sam sheridan about this author i forgot the guy's name, but he made up a bunch of Bob Dylan quotes.

And apparently he was like a great author, but he made up these quotes. And then when they like tried to check him on it and tried to like find the source of these quotes, he like got arrogant about it. And then they started researching it and they wouldn't let it go. And apparently they found that he just made them up.

To put in his book. And then he could write. Yeah, whatever he wanted. To that found that he just made them up. To put in his book. And then he could write. Yeah, whatever he wanted. To that quote that he just made up. Sure, yeah. He could put a Bob Dylan quote and say, this is one of the most poignant things that Bob ever wrote. I think he was thinking this at the time.

Yeah, I think when Bob said this, it spoke to my soul. Because I was a part of that flower child movement of the 60s. I was on Haight-Ashbury. I was wearing a bandana with live flowers in it fucking freaks yeah so this guy just ruined him ruined him so i think like this other guy it's kind of similar it's like no one's gonna really take you seriously no you thought i mean you know unless you go do ayahuasca or something you gotta go to peru you gotta prove yourself bitch that's a bit like that mendendes character, innit?

I've seen... Mendes character? The phallus dealer. Joke stealer character. Carlos. What's fat then thin? The drug dealer character? No, not drug dealer. The fucking joke stealer.

Oh, joke. Oh, Mencia. Did I say drug dealer then? I think you did. I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to understand you. I hate to break it to you. I don't know quite how to say this.

We don't know what the fuck you've been saying. We do have a bit of an accent, my friend. Is it? Oh, fucking hell. It's funny. I remember certain guys like Terry Adam. Terry Adam's got a very, very strong accent. Like he talks and you're like, whew.

Try to put that together. Paul Taylor. England. Michael Bisping. Yeah, there's so many. I don't know why England is such a small place. It's tiny. Right.

And there's so many different accents. A lot of accents, but it's a very strong accent. It's interesting. And the accent, it's very fitting for the the people that live in england you know what do you mean because they have to be tough to get this whole shit a little bit this is it's different it's just it's a different place you know and the the fact that you guys talk so much different it's fucking different man it human beings we look at the whole world and we,

we, we like to think that it's just like it is here, but it's over there. We think like, you know, live in Africa, live in Saudi Arabia, whatever.

Nah, as long as we're there together, it'd be like, you know, it'd be like us here. No, that's, that's not the case.

You go to England, you're like, well, this is a different world. These guys have completely different expectations. They drive it on the left-hand side. They don't give a fuck about you or your crazy laws or your quarters don't mean shit there. They're not real.

It's like, wow, this is a totally different place with their own money. And you'll see people on TV that are important. You're like, who the fuck is that guy? You have no idea who their prime minister is. You have no idea who any of these people are. You hear Margaret Thatcher. Yes, mate. That's the prime minister, right?

You hear Margaret Thatcher every now and then. We know her. We know the prince. We know the – we'll follow your royal family, but I don't know what the fuck is going on. So it's fascinating to be over there. They're all lizards. It's a totally different world. England is – first of of all it's got a

massive amount of history there's so much history in england there's so many years many many like if you look at the history of the united states you're only dealing with like 200 plus years but england you're like jesus christ you guys go back over a thousand yeah so it's like you have some really old pubs that have been open since like the 1400s, right? Aren't there? Yeah, yeah. A hundred percent. There's some real, real fucking old shit in England.

Yeah. We've got old shit. We're good. Old shit. We've old shit. You could go to a pub. Stop and think about that. That's been open since the 1400s.

And still have the same. What the fuck, man? They still have the same barmaid. How did you guys deal? You have kings and queens still. Well, at least you have the same barmaid how did you guys deal you have kings and queens still but you don't really they don't really get to tell you what to do it's a different situation

it's almost like they're like actors playing the queen it's like they've got a deal and they've kept them you know you don't have any power they give them money and they make them look badass and they wave kept him a lot you know you don't have any power but you just they give him money and they make him look badass and they wave they do like that and they just show the most proper behavior and then if they don't you know i mean that's why the probably the the queen gets all

pissed off because we could lose our fucking money yeah you could lose that gig keep it together you look cunts get fucking fired you gotta act. Yeah, exactly. Keep it posh and proper. Posh and proper. Keep calm. Yeah, and creep on. So you see that whole setup with the castle and all that jazz. It's really fascinating because they don't really run the country, right? No.

You guys have a democracy, right? Yeah. 100%? Yeah, yeah. Do kings, can you try them uh can you try them for crimes and shit like that no i think that i i this is what i this is what i imagine you can't but i reckon i reckon if there was something it's all if the, we haven't got a king, if the queen got caught doing something.

Like lesbo shit. You can't even say that. I'm an American, bitch. Land of the free, home of the brave. I don't give a fuck, okay? I can't take that. I can't take that for my queen, Joe Rogan. I won't take that

for my queen. No, you crossed I won't take that for my queen. No. You crossed the line. This is not true. This is 100% joking, ladies and gentlemen. This is all jokes. No disrespect, man, to Her Majesty. I bet the queen has a shy one.

She's joking. But if she did, what if she had a badass bitch? What if she had some hot 20-year-old Puerto Rican chick? How many downloads? How many downloads would that have? Thick red lipstick and big areolas, and her and the queen just got caught making out. Why?

What's wrong with that, man? Wouldn't it be great? It'd be great if it was a guy, right? Wouldn't it be great if it was a guy? What? If it was a guy, he was an old guy, the queen's single, okay? If the old guy, by himself, all of a sudden, boom, he's got this hot 20-year-old, just unbelievably,

ridiculously sexually attractive woman on his lap making out with him. Wouldn't that be awesome? It would, right? Well, is there anything wrong with being a lesbian? I say there's not. I say there's nothing wrong with being a lesbian. So I say if the queen was a lesbian and she was getting some hot pussy,

I'd say good for her. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't want to see it, though. You don't want to see it? It can happen, but I don't want's nothing wrong with that. I don't want to see it, though. You don't want to see it? It can happen, but I don't have to see it. You say you don't want to see it, but if I send you a link, you're clicking it. You're going to click that link, son. I'm going to send you a link,

Mr. Colossus. I'll retweet that one. You're going to go, well, you know what? I didn't want to look at it, but it was there. The motherfucker, he sent it to me, and next thing I know... I'm going motherfucker, he sent it to me. Next thing I know. I'm going into a van. Next thing I know, I've watched it 500 times in a row while gambling. Yeah, that's something.

But you would want to watch. You would want to watch your queen have a good time. There's nothing wrong with being a lesbian. I wouldn't. You wouldn't? Just out of fear? What is that? It's the harry or whatever his name is they got a picture of him naked oh yeah the chick yeah in vegas okay who did that who took that picture i think the the folks at uh

circus circus no no they went they went hunter s thompson style in vegas assing it up in circus circus that was not That wasn't a real picture, was it? Was that a hidden camera or something? I think they probably tell your people that it's not a real picture. Your people. You know what I bet it is, man? I bet a lot of people that are inside the organization, they do that shit on purpose. They leak that stuff for publicity.

That's how they build a business. What's a real picture? I don't know. You don't think that's a real picture? I don't know. I thought you were kidding. The guy's holding his dick. I don't hold my dick when I'm by myself, okay?

If I'm walking around the Vegas, I'm slinging dick like a gangster. When did that come out? It's slapping my left side, slapping my right side. I'm not holding it like that. That guy's holding it because he knows they're taking a picture. That's what I say, okay? That was some Columbo-type shit, son. I want some credit for that.

It was leaked about last year. That was MacGyver-type shit, son. I want some credit for that. It was leaked. That was MacGyver and Tom Selleck combined. It was leaked. If there's a picture of you now in Vegas holding your dick, you won't be able to. Oh, look at that. Oh, come on, man. These guys know these pictures are being taken. This is not real.

No, that is real. This is not real. It really is. I think someone busted out a cell phone. That's what I think. You're saying not real because you believe that it's impossible for royals to do anything wrong. Exactly. How many people are still brainwashed by the royals in England?

Is it still an important thing? If you were like, fuck the queen, would people be like, oh. It depends on your circle of friends, I suppose. My friends. Your friends wouldn't? No, they'd be like, yeah, fuck the queen. Because if you said, you're allowed to say like fuck the president. You can say that in this country and people will go, hey, easy.

But they won't like attack you and beat you up. But I would imagine if – by the way, all that stuff that I said about the queen, these are just jokes, ladies and gentlemen. Just no disrespect meant. We're talking about the queen from Mario Brothers. I would go with it about my own mother. I would say that joke about my own mother because it's not like – again, nothing wrong with being a lesbian. And if my mom was a lesbian, I wanted to hook up with a hottie. So it's my own mom who I love more than anybody on the planet.

She's my mom. So no worries about it, ladies and gentlemen. These are just jokes. How many people are like – because I know that it's got a lot more reverence to it than the president does, right? Yeah. Well, like you said earlier, it's so old. Yeah, it's so old. How far does it even go back?

Like I don't even know because I think how the fuck did that come to pass? Do you know what I mean? Basically, it's the hardest – who's got the fucking hardest gang. Yeah. Exactly. That's what it is, isn't it? That's what it was. Yeah.

Yeah. At one point in time. And the good kings were the ones who didn't abuse you too much. Yeah, exactly. They're like, oh, he's a good king. Yeah, yeah. He's like, meanwhile, he's living way better than you and for no reason. I mean, cutting out fuckers' heads.

Beheading people. Oh, beheading wives. Like, who was that one guy Henry the Henry the 8th is the one the kid chopped a bunch

of his wives heads off they got a little mouthy he's like bitch I'm done I'm done with this

yeah he would get sick of them and assassinate them I wonder what he would charge them with I don't think you need much of an excuse

but I bet he had a thing some probably a ledger people's heads he chopped off probably a lot of funny yeah you you watch like shows like game of thrones and i know it's bullshit i'm aware ladies and gentlemen people like you know i'll talk about game of thrones and people like you know that's not real right i'm like please give me more credit than this

i saw the dragons i saw the witches i'm sure it's not real. But it's supposed to represent at least the idea of a time. It's supposed to represent without all the fantasy stuff attached to it as well. But it's also supposed to represent an idea of a time when there was blacksmiths and swords and horses. But that was the technology. It sort of ended there. There wasn't really any medicine. There wasn't really any refrigerators. You just had fucking plates of fruit if you were the king i'm like them drumsticks yeah really massive ones yeah turkey legs and shit what were the big fucking mutton and a beer stein yeah right

like you ever see beowulf yeah that's your people love that that's your people. I love that. That's your people. That's a good movie. That's a fun movie. Was that a cartoon? Yeah, yeah, yeah. CGI. Amazing CGI. That was a great, fun movie. Angelina Jolie's boobies. Cartoon movies.

Angelina Jolie. Remember that? Got some big ass titties. Lindsay Lohan. Got some big ass titties. That's a good song. That's a great song. Halle Berry.

Got some big ass titties. You should see if you can find that. But it'll get us kicked off YouTube, won't it? I don't think it will. Is that even a real song? That shit is not registered. Give it a chance. There's no way they're fucking calling.

I'm helping them. Jesus Christ, ladies and gentlemen. We have to worry about getting our shit booted off YouTube if we have copyrighted material sometimes. Got some big ass titties. Halle material sometimes got some big ass titties hally berry got some big ass titties yeah that could have been a fun way even if you were the king i would rather be a dude who has like a decent job today than a king in 2000 you know years ago wouldn't you no i could do good I could do good. You could do good if you were the king? Oh, is that how you would rock it?

Yeah, I don't know. They'd kill you. They'd go right after you. Why? Fucking kill you in your sleep. Is this it? Big Ass Titties starring Lindsay Lohan.

Lindsay Lohan. She got some big ass titties. With Ryan Carey. She got some big ass titties. Holly Perry. Holly Perry got some big ass titties. Angelina Jolie. Big ass titties Big ass titties I'm not getting your ass

I'm spending my cheddar Black people are awesome shit man i'm spinning my cheddar cause this bitch got some titties like it's it's i'm so happy that black people exist. Because white people would never have figured out rap. They would have never figured out how you could brag endlessly and it actually could be an art form and fun to listen to. It's fun to listen to.

White people lack the flavor to have come up with rap on their own. We needed black people around to spice come up with rap on their own like we needed black people around to like spice it up it's very important there's a it would have never come out with that there's a song out right now joe uh it's from harley barry got some big ass titties i forget the guy's name like asap uh rocky i think is his name and it's called fucking problems and there's so many so many cuss words in the song that when they play it on the radio, it's seriously like, you're sitting there like, wait a second, you can't understand

a word they're saying, but it has this catchy rhyme that's underneath it that you get into and it's like a number three song and you can't understand a word that's in that one. What is the name of it? It's called Fucking Problems by A$AP Rocky. I actually have the censored version version but i don't want to play

yeah don't even play it i think that the universe is letting us know in no uncertain terms that it's over the fucking show's over it's getting completely wacky i think that's what reality tv is i think that's what this song being the number three song in the world go back to like the year whatever it was when midnight rider came out from the allman brothers and compare that song to this fucking ridiculous song that has a million cuss words that you can't even play i wish i could play just a chorus for you it's so ridiculous i don't even want to hear it it's the aliens are sending us a signal they're saying build your ship okay and get off this rock they're gonna start eating each other this fucking

honey boo boo is gonna become an adult and she's gonna run the planet that's what's gonna happen you do wonder what is next

yeah what is next what is what um what's next for you man you just fought right where'd you fight not for a while

my last fight was Bobby Lashley and I got my cheekbone broken my orbital bone got fractured so that put me out for a while. My last fight was Bobby Lashley and I got my cheekbone broken. My orbital bone got fractured, so that put me out for a while. That was a big victory for you. Yeah, it was. That was a legit victory.

It was an interesting one. A good, big name. It was a good fight. You pulled it off after three rounds. I watched it not long ago and I thought, edged it just edged it it was close those are satisfying aren't they well I mean it went to plan I stopped his takedowns my cardio was much better if he did take me and I got right back up I thought good but why let me down was to stand up my stand up was too slow it was like he was beating me to I was many then finish me down was to stand up my stand up was too slow it was like he was beating me to I was many then finish him off with the stand up but he was too quick it was beating me

to the punch and I thought right fuck it I'm gonna have to get him to the cage and make it just messy just keep him a because he was tired he want to move so keep him there fucking with it it was good where I managed to do what i wanted to do but i didn't capitalize that guy's a weird uh example of like a physical specimen he's so muscular you look at him you go how could that guy keep his cardio yeah he seems like a guy who probably should be like a 205 right yeah he's too big for his fame yeah he's got so much meat on him but he's so impressive looking you know because of that that. It used to be at a time, you know, you look at a guy who's built like that, you go, well, that guy will probably kick a lot of ass. But now, you know, like that guy is handicapped almost.

No, it is. When you're too big, it's like when I fought Podrnowski, there's so many gaps. Yeah. You know, I remember he was statically very strong. So he got me belly to belly, suplexed me over, you know, I remember he was statically very strong, so he got me belly to belly, suplexed me over. You know, I landed, and he was on top of me, and I fought right under hook, and he was just there. There was such a big gap because he could close his arms. Well, also, he's not aware.

I mean, his mixed martial arts training was very limited. I watched him, like, hit the pads and everything. It was comical. It's like, well, this guy never punched in his life yeah and they teach them how to punch now but that solves his um mindset yeah he's an animal well he's a fucking animal the fact he thought you know when i was talking earlier about you know six weeks and i haven't i ain't got a big ego but i've got more of an ego than obviously i realized do you know you i mean right because podronowski thinks for you know he jumps in the tim sylvia yeah it's a worst fight ever ever ever he's so tall so rangy yeah

very dangerous guy and motivated because he just lost to ray mercer so he wanted to you know he that was an embarrassing loss to him yeah so he wanted he wanted to put a good mark on his ledger and Pudzianowski was a perfect one he just ate Pudzianowski alive it was like the body beautiful versus a guy with not the greatest genetics in the world

not the greatest genetics kick the fucking shit out of that body beautiful easy no problem it was fascinating to see how willing that guy is right away to fight high level guys but he's going backwards he's going backwards he started off like that and then

after um the second loss to me which is well it wasn't a loss to me he was he claimed to won the fight and then they reversed the decision the next day yeah i saw that well um that that's some fuckery right there, huh? Was that in Poland? Yeah. Fucking hell. Do you know what it is? Do you know why it always happens to me?

It always fucking happens to me because I'm the guy who's managed to be knocked out. I'm like the guy who's had a few. I'm semi-legitimate. So I'm like, people are like, oh, you know, he's got, you know, he's had a few wins. He's not a complete bum. So they put me up there. I love the part. I'll come to fight, but I'm beatable.

So then, you know, their guy is ready to take the next level. He's thinking he's beating Tim Sylvia, don't forget. I think he'll fucking fuck Thompson up. But he didn't quite go like that. Yeah, I think also you've got to think the guy became this amazing powerlifting champion, this strongman champion because he has this undeniable belief in himself. So he probably just thinks he doesn't give a fuck. So now he keeps running into reality. Yes, yes, yes.

A guy like that needs like a real legit coach, like a Greg Jackson or a Matt Hume. Like someone's going to sit him down and go, listen, there's only one way we're going to do this and do it right. We're going to keep your brain. Okay. And that's, you actually learn how to fight and then you fight. I think he is determined.

He seems like he's getting smaller. He's getting smaller as well, right? Yeah. He's getting better. I think he's work ethic and you know, to be the strongest man.

You know what I mean? So I think he's, that part I give him credit for, but he's a fucking prick he's a prick is he really oh he's a prick he's a prick

he's not a nice guy no no he's not a nice guy do you know when I was at KSW all the staff all the back you know I talked to everyone everyone was really nice

and on the do you know when someone grabs your hand when someone grabs your hand yeah to shake it yeah

and they do that finger thing no no no and they go and they pop Yeah, to shake it. Yeah. And they do that finger thing? No, no, no. And they go, and they pop it. Oh yeah, with the second arm. Why do they do that, that second arm? Like to reinforce. Yeah, don't you like get your base, you lower your base, this motherfucker's gonna judo me! Fucking out, Joel.

Maybe a bit of a download, man. Yeah, why do they do that? I think it has an emphasis to really stay. To really have. To really hug the whole. It's a hand hug. You know what I don't mind it, as really stay. To really have. To really hug a home. It's a hand hug. You know what I don't mind it as long as it's a touch. It's a touch with the other arm.

When you grab my wrist, especially if you go with one of those Gene LaBelle finger lock type situations. I don't think they're thinking of it like that. You're pinching down with three fingers and you've really got to. I don't think they've fucking read the Gene LaBelle fucking handbook. They should. It's a great handbook. If you want to fucking kill someone with a walking stick. There's another weird thing that dudes will do where they'll hold on to your knee while they're telling you something.

What the fuck is that? When you're sitting down, are you sitting down like in some easy chairs next to each other? Older dudes will do it. They got something important to tell you? No. Bobby, I need to suck your dick right now. No, they have something important to tell you? No. Bobby, I need to suck your dick right now. No, they have something important to tell you. They want you to really listen.

They will even put a hand, not even like a full claw, but to let you know that if you wanted to, they could make this shit uncomfortable. Hold on to your leg and I'll tell you some shit about the government. I don't have this happen to me. Talk to old dudes. I talk to old dudes that want to show me that they know shit. Yeah. The worst one for me, let's say I've got this black eye.

The worst one for me is people grabbing your head to, you know, when they're pissed and they come up and they grab the back of your head, like, and then start pulling you in. Yeah. They want to talk to you almost. Yeah. And like, well, they're just start pulling you in yeah they want to talk to you almost yeah i'm like yeah well they're just fucking pulling you you put like not letting you get a fucking way you're like

taking the choice away yeah do you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah yeah why do people do that when they want to talk to you hold on to you it's so important because it's so important what they're going to say dan henderson the back of your head and shit. When someone does that to me, we'll be training as well. When someone does that to me, it's like, fuck. So that's how you got that black eye? Yeah. What happened? I work at, well, he's my mate,

but I go to his club and I do security with just normal clothes. I have a drink with him. I do whatever I fucking want. I drink. So you do security, but you're also like a patron? I'm his mate. I have a drink with him. I do whatever I fucking want. I drink. So I was going on the dozen. So you do security, but you're also like a patron? I'm his mate.

I'm his mate. Okay. I'm his mate. So you just do it to hang out with him? Yeah. Okay. I see. But I told him he don't even have to pay me.

Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. But he does anyway. So he's your boy, so you go there and you hang out with him. Yeah, so then. You're security just by existing. There you go so um so so so then what like what am i saying i don't know i know i don't got to it yet that's why

joe it's gonna be good though so so if i can remember that so we're there and um oh someone punches the how you got your black eye yeah yes someone punches the bathroom. Oh, you got your black eye. Yeah, yeah. Someone punches the bathroom and floods it. They punch the bathroom and flooded it? They punch the fucking container with the watering or something. Oh, you guys have like one of them old school above the toilet containers of water that you can punch? Yeah. Wow, that's hilarious. So somebody...

So I went to look for the guy who did it. So I said, oh, I'll have a look. And he said, white T-shirt. So I'm on the way down the dance floor, and this girl steps on my toe. She steps on my toe, and she wobbles a bit. So I catch her under the arm, securely, safe. And she goes, oh, yeah.

She said something to me. And then this bloke came out of nowhere, cut a fucking peacock in it, and got him right in my face. Peacock in it means he was spreading out his feathers. Yeah, he was letting me know. Talking shit. Yeah, I was talking to his missus,

who just happened to look like this skinny fucking woman. She looked all right from the back, but her face was hollow. She had fucking loads of makeup on. Are you saying she's on meth as well? This makes this makes the story better it's a methed out couple she yeah yeah okay yeah needle needles in the hand yeah just fucking needles falling out of her panties oh stop it um and the guy grabbed he started saying i said something to him and he was taking my kind of kindness, me being okay.

Right. And I don't want to fight. Right. I have no reason to. So my being all right and he's taking it as weakness and I can see it happening and it's almost like I know what's going to happen.

Right. It's almost like I shouldn't do it and I can just say, fuck off, prick, and just kill it dead there. Right. But I don't and he went like that

and then he did that and I pushed his hand off and he fucking hit me Fucking left hook me Did you hit him back? Did you break his arm? Did you kill him? Yeah I fucking

Colossus Lee crushed him Yeah that's a big mistake When you punch a dude like you And then he's still there And now you're mad Like damn it Are you ticklish? No

You are You're really really really ticklish. Look at the way his head moved. No. Don't do it, Brian. He'll break this whole fucking table. Brian, sit the fuck down. You better not tickle me, you motherfucker.

That guy will kill you. Let me see that. He's really fragile. Isn't he getting confident? He's not getting confident. He's getting gay. He's trying to lure you into he? Isn't he getting confident? He's not getting confident. He's getting gay. He's trying to lure you into his fucking spider web. Can I have a coconut water?

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Amy and Brian's. Is that what it is? Yeah. Amy and Brian's is the same type. Hey. They're tickling each other. This is dangerous, Brian. He wouldn't even mean to kill you, Brian.

It would just be an accidental. I'd be like, I love him and hugging a girl in my own. It'd be like Lenny with the Macy's. You know, where he's killed another one by smoking it. Oh, poor Brian. I would never kill you, Brian. He would hug you and everything would just leak out of your asshole. I would.

In a water bag. Squatch. I would kill you with love and affection. His ass would just leak out of your asshole. I would... In a water bag. Splotch. I would kill you with love and affection. His ass would just open up. Oh, stop. Just rip. Oh, please. The whole innards just plump.

Everything. Ribcage. Everything. Oh, stop it. Joel, please. No one's even going to figure out how a ribcage got through his asshole. It's going to go right through.

Intact. Pa-toing. It's going to come out and roll across the floor. See what happens when you're tickling into this. When they realize. See what happens when you start the tickling, Brian. It's something that I've always thought of because I'm extremely ticklish. And if I was a fighter, I think if I was in some crazy jiu-jitsu thing,

if the guy just started tickling me, I would freak the fuck out. No, no. Not when you're in the moment and you're not thinking about while you're tickling the guy the guy's on top of you punching you in the face and you're gonna stop tickling it's a part of tickling like the whole thing is like someone's like got power over you and you're like stop it you're making me feel things i don't want to feel you fucking stop it you know but it doesn't hurt it just feels weird not at all so it's because you know what you you make the connection between the impact of the fingers but when someone else is controlling that you don't know what kind of ride you're going on and all that shit is

actually probably evolutionary um to uh beneficial to keep spiders off of us what like things that like little things that are moving on you like what the fuck is that like that's what that is it's like extra sensory for when spiders and shit would crawl into your fucking sleeping bag you know i mean that's probably what being ticklish is all about did you have a sleeping bag fucking back in the day yeah yeah of course one right now i have one right now brian always has a rescue pack in his car well he rescue pack. Well, he's ready for this. When Jack strangles me to sleep. He's worried about the earthquake, and so he has a full emergency set up in the back of his car, including ecstasy. Including like a...

Plenty of molly. You got a fucking porn star. No, there's none in the trunk where I cleaned it out last night. That's one of those ones, you say you're like damn it was it seemed like it was there i took a chance i threw it out there so um you got um two big wins in a row right with um bob's app and with no was bob's app in the same no it's sfo oh that's right oh yeah so that was in the same? No, it's SFO. Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah, so that was in the same one as Bobby Lashley.

I've had three big wins, and the fourth, which I classed as a win because it was a bollocks Pudzianowski one. Yeah, that was totally horseshit. But the Super Fight League is in India. Are you enjoying that over there? No, I'm not with them anymore. You're not with them anymore? No, no, no. What happened?

Well, they said to me, we can get you a fight. We want you to fight... What's his face? Todd Duffy. And I was like, okay. And they're like, we want to cut half your money.

I was like, well... And then we wanted to add you a 20% tax. Indian tax. So they changed how they do business with you. They didn't charge Indian tax before that? 10%. Are they outsourcing? Is that what's going on?

They're outsourcing heavyweights? India's outsourcing as well. We outsource to India. They outsource heavyweights. They're just, I think, a guy has a lot of money, and they see MMA, and think think I'd like to do that. Indie don't have it, I like it. And then they go to do it

and it's not quite as simple as that. They start bleeding money. Well, the people don't know what the fuck it is. And then you have people like me and Bob Sapp there and it's like, you know, it's wrestling. Right. Really, it's like, we both look like, and they both watch through this crazy thing

at the fucking press conference. Oh, coming to get you. And he's like, ah. And then the guy's in the middle, the Bollywood guy. You know what I mean? Right. So it looks like bullshit. And then when Bob Sapp got injured,

it really looked like bullshit, right? Yeah, I tried and I fought about that. But yeah, but the first fight, it's a bit like the first ever UFC. Like the fucking tooth comes out. Someone gets fucking smacked and like oh it's real

it was like that with this the guy comes out I can't remember Professor X yeah outboards someone do you know what I mean

straight away it's fucking so they had some good fights but is it that the guy's running out of cash it's costing a lot of money to do this

no I don't think he's running out of cash I think he don't like of money to do this? No, I don't think he's running out of cash. I think he don't like losing it. Oh, so he's losing it. So he's trying to minimize the amount he's losing. Yes, basically, yes. Yeah, it's not easy to fucking put together a gigantic organization. No.

A lot of people don't realize that the UFC was $44 million in the hole before it started to turn around and become profitable. That all became uh because of the ultimate fighter they they bankrolled that show they essentially put together that show produced it and then bought time on spike to air it you know it's really a crazy crazy fucking gamble but one that turned out incredibly well to get that level of recognition for your organization you got to have something like viacom behind you, like what Bellator is doing. You've got to have something big behind you. You have to have a push where they have, okay, look, we have determined that we have X amount of talent.

We have this amount of budget. We can go after new talent. We can offer people a commensurate cash reward for wins that you would get in the UFC. We can match their money. So let's get crazy here. Let's see what we can do. But you have to be willing to lose a lot of fucking money to do that. Because until they start doing pay-per-views, man,

until they start doing pay-per-views, where's all that money coming from? You're going to have some world championship fights? But Indians aren't the most athletic of people either. They're not? Well, they were great wrestlers at one point yeah yeah the wrestling as a sport but the indian physique as a whole not so good what about the women though nothing not but the bollywood ones have got the kind of thing where um they all want to be english right do know what I mean? So get as white as they can be. Do like the Japanese or the Chinese.

I've seen a few hot Indian porn stars. Yeah. Indian women porn stars. I mean, it's hot. Everyone. That's true. Do you know what I mean? It really is, right?

But on the average, not so much. No. And India is so fucking poor. The women are thinking about fucking eating. Do you know what I mean? Never mind. It's that poor, huh? poor like the women are thinking about fucking eating do you know i mean never mind it's that poor huh when i went um first time doing a press conference i could not fucking believe it i mean

you see it on it but that there was chaos do you know what you're saying earlier like over here this and that different countries different world fucking india i mean i've been to a few places but that I was with my missus and she she says to us I'm surprised we haven't there's kids, like a little kid in the middle of the road eating a banana just sat there and it was busy as

fuck and the the the thing what fucking separates the road was about that much. And this little kid was eating a banana, just chilled out in the sun. And the cars are going past. Wow. And I was like.

And it was gone. So the kid's just on a strip of the road. On a strip in the middle. And no one gives a fuck. No one gives a fuck. And I was like. And then Grant says to us, fucking, I I suppose you haven't seen any wild dogs or anything like that and then literally turned my head and there's this massive big fucking bull

a bull yeah just fucking I think it was a bull walking down the road and I was like fuck this is mad just chaos and no one walks on the road everyone no sorry no one walks on the pavement everyone walks on the fucking road. And a bull was just walking down the street. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Just fucking... Watch out for the kid.

A fucking bull and a kid on the same street. Yeah. And it's just madness everywhere. Just madness everywhere. And then we went to our hotel. It's the apocalypse. I mean, if you can... If that came to England, it would be the apocalypse i mean if you if if you can you know if that came to england it would be the apocalypse right now what that came to london

yeah that would be the apocalypse that would be fucking game over but it is the apocalypse right it's just there yeah it's just you can go visit the apocalypse but they were all they were all fucking on the beach going in the um going in the water with the whole clothes on. Wow. Which I know that's only a little thing, but it just seems so – no one was sunbathing. No one was lying on the beach. Everyone was just standing on the beach and in the water

with the whole clothes on. And I thought, are they washing the clothes? I don't know. I fucking don't know. Wow. What the fuck? But some of India's – they have a tiger problem too some parts india is huge but the sunda bands have a real tiger problem over the last 200 years i

think 300 000 people have been killed there some some insane number like that like they have a real problem they have brackish water where it means the water is not fresh and it's not salt. It's a combination. It's not quite the salinity of sea water, but it's more salty than regular fresh water. And because of that, the tigers have nothing else to drink and they drink that shit and they get really agitated and they get really aggressive. They don't die. Well, they die. I mean, they become monsters. What are you saying? They drink the salt water. Well, I've been trolled. It doesn't work that way, dude.

Imagine all you do is add salt to tigers and live forever. You'd be fucked. No, they get – it's just only in theory. That's why they're so aggressive. But also the theory is that the typhoons come and I guess these crazy storms that come, a lot of people die. A lot of people that are near the water wind up in the water. So the tigers wind up eating the bodies that wash down the shore. And there's so many of them in the water, apparently, a bunch of tigers will jump in, and they have no other meat.

They'll just eat these bodies. They don't mind doing that. So then they develop a taste for human flesh. Right. just eat these bodies they don't mind doing that so then they develop a taste for human flesh so if the monsoons come or typhoons whatever they are and you know kill a bunch of villagers and a few of them wind up in the water and tigers eat them those tigers now know what people taste like and they go looking for it and that's where it should get spooky well what's what struck me about about india like when we went when i went to, I was there for an extra week because obviously

I was having my face sorted out. What happened? This is from when the guy sucker punched you? No, no. This is from one of your fights. Bobby Lashley fight. He broke my orbital. He broke your orbital?

Yeah, he broke my orbital. What happens when you have an orbital break? They put a mesh. Apparently these are collapsible, and they're obviously designed to be there to eye drops down. It protects your eyes. Right.

So it broke, and they put a guard in there, like a titanium guard. Mm-hmm. And now it's fucking good as new. So they put a titanium guard in your face. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. Do you think dudes So they put a titanium guard in your face. Yeah, yeah. Whoa.

Do you think dudes will ever get titanium guards put in their face without it breaking just to protect it? Make sure you don't get broken orbitals? Yeah. I mean, it would work, right? Well, I don't know because it's meant to be collapsible. So that's what I said to the doctor. Oh, it's meant to be collapsible. And he says, yeah. I said, with the titanium plate, it won't be collapsible.

And he said, no, no, it won't. I said, so if it won't collapse, does that mean my eye's in more danger? And he said, well, I wouldn't fight if I was you. Whoa. And I thought, well, he wouldn't fight if he was you anyway. Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought, well, what a fucking stupid thing to say. That's a stupid thing to say.

Yeah, it is. If he was you, you would fight.'s what I thought. I thought, well, what a fucking stupid thing to say. That's a stupid thing to say. Yeah, it is. Because if he was you, you would fight. No, no. So I said to him, is it safe? And he said, if I was you, I wouldn't fight. And I thought, that's not an answer. Right. But that's a, first of all, he's being honest.

Because he's not a fighter. He's a doctor. Yeah, but I don't need his opinion on fucking everything. I had a meniscus surgery, and the lady was telling me never to do jiu-jitsu again. You need to stop. What's a meniscus surgery? What are you talking about? You need to stop.

You're going to be crippled by the time you get old. Your knees won't work. You're like, whoa. I have so many arguments with doctors about steroids and things like that because they don't know. Try to get prescriptions and they say, get the fuck out of here. Fill in my bag.

Just go to Mexico, man. It's super easy. No, no. But so many arguments because I realize they don't actually – they see a lot of the negative effects and they don't actually know what they're talking about. Well, there's an issue with a lot of doctors when it comes to two areas. And a big one is nutrition. There's a real issue with a lot of doctors that are really not that much more informed than the layperson when it comes to nutrition. two here and there about the benefits of vitamin C or alpha lipoic acid or whatever the fuck you read about, you probably know as much as your average general practitioner.

They don't really know that much about nutrition on average. Of course there's exceptions to the rule. And when you're dealing with something like nutrition, which is an integral part of your health in the first place. It's a weird thing when the doctors are only – like their idea of wellness is only taking care of you if actually you're broken. It's not like completely stopping all this shit from happening in the first place. Yeah. And like stepping in and giving you nutrition and making sure you don't – It's never the long game, is it?

It's always the fix-up. But then again, they have to understand that the body is a finite proposition. And if a man wants to be a fighter, then you've got to patch him back up and send him out there. It's his decisions. Yeah. I think. I wouldn't fight it if I was you. But he's not you.

Yeah. You wouldn't be a doctor if you were him and as he went off i was like i won oh never mind yeah there's um is there a point where you think like if you look at like your career like if you look at your future if you like where you say okay well if i get to this point i'm done. No. You just can do it until you enjoy it? Well, I stopped enjoying it for four years. I fucking hated it. For four years?

Four or five years. When I started gambling. Oh. And then I wouldn't admit I hated it. I'd have like little spells where I would be like, I can't do it anymore. I don't want to, the pressure, the fucking head fuck of it all, the this. And then when I get my money, I'm only do it anymore I don't want to the pressure the fucking head fuck of it all the this

and then when I get my money I'm only gambling it all I just you know what I mean right I can't do it anymore and I can't keep bringing myself

back up like Kimbo was meant to be a big comeback that Pudzianewski you know keep it going just you know Butter keep it going,

just, you know, Butterbean, that bollock, just a lot of bad decisions, and, so, by me as well,

but not just, sorry, not just bad decisions, just bad results, well, bad results, some caused by me, right,

and some, some just bad decisions, right, do you know what I mean, it's not just, the Kimbo fight was seen by how many people? There was a huge audience, right? About 8 million people, I think. 8 million people.

6 or 8, I can't remember. And most people, what they remember is that you came into the cage with a fucking mouse living in your ear. You had like a whole mouse family living in your ear. And it blew up, right? It popped in the middle of the fight and started leaking.

That was so hard to watch. That was the most fucked up ear ever seen on national TV. No one had a more fucked up ear ever. My ear's more famous than me. I'm jealous of my ear. Is that right? People talk about that fight. Remember that guy that fought Kimbo with a crazy fucking ear?

Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Colossus, yes. I'm not going to be remembered for that, though. For that? No. Well, you gonna be remembered for that though for that no well you'll you'll be remembered for your entire career of sure no what i'm saying is what i'm saying is at the moment yeah yeah that at the moment people would say i'm the kimbo you know what i remember i remember you had kimbo and side control and, and they stood you up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I remember that. Right?

Nobody ever points that out. Yeah, I point it out. And then I take a load more whacks before that changes the fucking pace of a fight. The fuck yeah it does. You don't stand a guy up when a guy works hard. And I just got there. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Elite XC was a corrupt organization. Corrupt. One of them. They changed the rules. They told guys to stand up and bang. Yeah rules they told guys to stand up and bang yeah they told guys to stand up and bang they gave them instructions and they made they made the referee stand guys up much earlier big country was fighting andre oloski and had him in a fucking side control position working a kimura and they stood him back up. I'm like, you've got to be fucking kidding me.

Jake Shields, they did that same shit when he was fighting Semtex, when he was fighting Paul Daly. Same shit. They tried to stand him up early, but Jake just attacked, attacked, attacked and got him in an armbar. He just went, Jake's a high-level black belt, so he just went after it really quickly. But you had Kimbo in fucking side control.

You worked to get it. You got it. You were in a dominant position. He was tired and they stood you back up. Gary Shaw said, Gary Shaw said, we did a, um,

a radio interview, you know, where everyone's on the other line and I was just finished training. So I'm on the phone and one of, no one was asking me fucking any questions. Um, and I thought, yeah,

I'm just the guy for Kimball to beat so and then the someone asked gary shaw a question they said um this is how he was holding the phone um they asked gary shaw the question i like that yeah just uh i did emphasis just in case you couldn't visualize it um they said to him um what would you do if james thompson won and he said i'd hang myself would you do if james thompson won and he said i'd hang myself and i thought wow that's the dumbest motherfucker in the history of mma productions the the idea that you have one guy that's the most important thing and bank everything on him winning yeah exactly so stupid all eggs because if you kick that guy's ass, it would have been awesome. If they left you in side control, it would have been awesome.

Just like it was awesome for him when he won. It would have been awesome for you. Then you got to let the guy who's supposed to win, win. When you're trying to just be the most marketable, you're looking for the most marketable guy, you're never going to have a legit organization. His organization, his whole organization was essentially a corrupt organization. That's what that is. Well, I'm writing a book at the moment because the blogs have gone so well. I thought to myself, I've got to fucking – I started looking back at the different stories.

I did the Fedor drinking one and everyone loved it and a few more. So I started thinking i've got fucking that that elite xc story is a very important story from martial arts because that made me angry i was watching that at home and i was angry i was like this is crazy and i i love kimbo i think he's an awesome guy he's a great character i like watching him fight um he won a boxing match recently he's been winning a lot of boxing matches i love that dude It's not that I wanted him to win or you to win, but I wanted fairness. And you worked hard to get to that position. And you were in a dominant position.

And they stood you back up and you were fucking tired and you got cracked. And they did the same thing with Big Country. When Big Country had Arlovsky down, he was working for a fucking Kimura and they stood him up. I'm like, are you crazy? It was quite ironic that um i watched um big country and he was almost in exactly the same position as me when he beat kimbo and uh with the yeah yeah i thought oh you know he's kind of not mentioned or not you know it's very close to the same position you know i mean the only difference is he went with the amount

he had a full amount of crucifix on him you know which i'm sure you could have worked towards you had him on his back he was only going to get more tired on him. Yeah, that's right. You know, which I'm sure you could have worked towards. You had him on his back. He was only going to get more tired. There was a couple minutes to go, right? The thing with that fight, it's not that I think they should have stopped the fight there because he came back and he had me rocked in the third round. He did.

He fucking hurt them punches. And I was. I was rocked. So it's not that. But they should have let... He might have knocked me out. I don't know. He might have knocked me out. I might have took him knock me out. I don't know. He might knock me out.

I might have took him down. Right. I don't know who would have won. Right. That's the fucking, the point of the fight. You've got to let the fight conclude. He could have knocked me out. Because I was, I was, but one more takedown and he, and he was mine.

Well, you take such a good shot and you take so many shots that sometimes people don't know what the fuck to do. And I think a fight like that, like you took some bombs from Kimbo and you were still there and it's like the referee is like, man, do I rescue this fucking guy? It's a weird judgment call and it's very important to have the right referee in a situation like that. Like a guy like Herb Dean, he'll let you fight. He'll let you fight, but he will save you if he knows you're fucked. I think there's a lot of fights where the referee errs on the side of caution

and protects the fighter, and in a case like yours, you feel like you were denied an opportunity because of that, right? Yeah, and what I was saying before, so I started vambling, but I was backstage, and it just happened, and Gary Shaw's son, that fucking... Yeah, big kid. Scala, is that what they call him? Yeah, Scala.

Seems like a nice guy. With a fucking, what was that, dollar sign, fucking... Yeah, he has a chain, a dollar sign chain. Oh, the S is Scala. Yeah, it's clever. Yeah, well, he grew up with a rich dad. And he's bald. It's an interesting way to live your life.

But he came up to me and he said, you've got to go to the hospital. You've got to go to the hospital now. You've got to go to the hospital? Yeah. And I turned to him and I said, yeah. He said, yeah, but he turned away, because there was a lot going on so he didn't hear

me and then he turned back and went you have to go to the hospital now i'm taking you now and i went you really want me to go to the hospital right too much so then i went to the press conference instead and as i walked into the press conference gary sh was going, we just have to take James Thompson to the hospital, the emergency room. He has breathing trouble and I'm there. And someone cut into it and I was drinking a drink. You know what I mean? And I think that sums it up, really. That sums it up.

They're corrupt. More than words. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's a corrupt organization. That's horseshit. They're pretending you were hurt more than you were to pump Kimbo up. Yeah. Wow. That's interesting yeah so what a stupid organization that was you know i don't make predictions man i very rarely make predictions but one of the predictions that i made was when elite xc mixed uh seth preccizzelli up with kimbo okay i'm like well come seth preccizzelli

has been around a long time there's a he's a seriously seasoned guy i'm like, Seth Petruzzelli's been around a long time. He's a seriously seasoned guy. I'm like, this is a terrible fight. Heavy hands. Heavy hands, and he's very aggressive, especially in the first round. He's going to come after you, man. He's had a bunch of injuries, and he's had a long career. He's fought a long time. But in that fight, I was like, boy, I see that as a mismatch.

That's a bad fight for Kimbo. Yeah, last minute. It's like, boy, I see that as a mismatch. That's a bad fight for Kimbo. Yeah, last minute. They are so stupid the way they designed that organization around one guy who was basically a really exciting prospect. He was a really fun guy. He had a cool look.

I'm glad that he made some money. I'm glad that he did well. But that you would bank it all on this one guy. No, you could have him fight other guys too and pump them up too of course and it's mma it's the most unpredictable sport ever and now he's fighting boxers and you know i mean he's he's got a bunch of knee problems as well so i think yeah i mean he looks up i mean the guy he fought i thought the guy was gonna win in the end i mean kimbo did well to get the body shot and finish him oh that was the last boxer yeah yeah that guy seemed a bit out of shape yeah but he was dangerous man he was throwing him yeah he was throwing him and they were both gassed in the first round

they were both fucked for that second round well he teed off on kimbo one combination and timbo stiffened up yeah kimbo stiffened up yeah towards the end of the first he got tagged and then he three or four clean ones two carried away yeah he thought he went for it too. And the guy, and Kimbo did well and got that and just finished it. Well, Kimbo recovered really nice in that fight. That was impressive. It was obvious that he's in shape. That was a crazy fight. He's an exciting guy.

It's not that I didn't want him to win or wanted you to win. But when they stood you guys up, I was like, you guys are ruining the sport. Because that's not the sport. That's what it's about. Yeah. Like you say, you don't know the individual people. The arrogance of promoters, man. The arrogance of those boxing guys that think that they could just come in and just sort of work it the way they've worked boxing.

It shows you how they've worked boxing, how they build up contenders. They're not concerned as much about what you can do as they are about how much money they can make off you. So it's not about we need to test him against some strong competition. It's about let's get him some setup fights and let's avoid that guy because that guy will exploit him. Keep it going as long as possible. Promote it all yourself. Do it all internally. This is Don King's fighter.

I'm Don King the promoter. And you get it to a point where the guy's a champion, and then you fucking wreak in the cash while avoiding the dangerous guy that nobody knows that will knock him out. It's a fucking Rocky movie, Colossus. You can give them money. The money you do make, you put to good use because you fund Saks' rap career. Yes.

Whose rap career? His son's. Oh, yeah. Scala. Scala. You got a rap career? Is he a good rapper? Oh, mate. I'm surprised you haven't heard it.

Wow. I just think it's very lucky. We're all very lucky that that organization doesn't operate the way it did anymore. Have you not seen his video? No. There's a real rap video? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to see it.

I want to make fun of the guy. He's a young guy. Look, he grew up with a wacky dude for a dad. I mean, if that's your dad, what the fuck? I'd be a douchebag too if that was my dad. How the fuck am I going to turn out? This is my role model here. Well, yeah.

I mean, you don't have to turn out like... Yeah. He's a young guy, right? Yeah, of course. I mean, my mom had a terrible upbringing. She was the best ever. Do you know what I mean? Sometimes it works the opposite.

Right. It's hard to say, isn't it? I know what you mean. Playing the odds, generally. If Gary Shaw's your dad. Yeah, I'm going to be an asshole. Generally, I am. Did you harbor resentment from them after that

when you knew that they had stood their fight up like that I did I did but I used that in a wrong way in a wrong way that stupid blockhead that damn Mowgliata he fucked it up for my mate Moss

he was reffing him and Krokop poked Moss in the eye and then who was it Mus Al Turk Mustafa he got poked in the eye by Krokop and then

he didn't stop the fight and I was like you fucking prick you know Mergliat is the same one that stood you up with Kimbo yeah it's the same one that stood you up on with kimbo yeah yeah it's the same one but they they instructed them all to do that right didn't they instruct the referees to do that yeah that's a really tricky situation that's where you know there's a very famous clip of

dana white like yelling at the camera going that's fucking illegal because that kind of shit can alter the course of a fight and one of the reasons why it's illegal is because that kind of shit can alter the course of a fight. And one of the reasons why it's illegal is because people bet on fights. So you're essentially – for Vegas, it's legal. So you're fixing that fight. If you're telling a guy that he has to go to the ground or you're telling a guy that he has to stand up, you're altering what he would or wouldn't have done independently on his own. You're essentially fixing the fight. Oh, yeah. You're altering what he would or wouldn't have done independently on his own. You're essentially fixing the fight. Oh, yeah.

You're putting notes. Well, even if you're wrong, you're attempting it, and it should be illegal. To have any influence whatsoever on how the guy performs in any other way other than just saying, hey, man, this is your best bet to win this fight. Anything else you tell him, like, what are you doing? What the fuck are you doing you're influencing the possible result especially if you're a promoter so if there's a promoter that tells a referee they got to stand people up early that guy should be in jail the other the other um i mean i don't want to go into it too much but the judges i found out the second round

all the judges scored it 10-9 to me the first round round. The second round, it was 10-8, 10-8. And then Gary Shaw's mate, who lives down the road from him, who Gary Shaw was on the New Jersey Athletic Commission, that guy scored it 10-8 to Kimball that second round. Whoa. Yeah, I know. Wow. Yeah, so, you know.

Just corrupt. Yeah, like you say, it's corruption. 10-8. People are crazy. And the other round, he did 10 9 to me yeah and i'm like hey there's a lot of people that are just like just flip a coin at the end of a round too though there's a lot of bad refereeing in mma or bad judging rather than mma more bad judging i think than refereeing there's a lot of really good referees but there's some standout bad judges that keep turning in bad decision after bad decision. You're like, well, you're crazy.

How do you see that fight like that? That's nuts. It is fucking nuts. There's so many of them. There's so fucking many of them. There's a lot of bad, bad judging going on. It just doesn't make any sense to me that you're talking about a sport that's one of the most popular sports at this point in the world. One of the most dangerous and one of the sports that requires the most commitment out of the athlete.

Because you're not just putting your physical body on the line. You're putting your emotional well-being, how you feel about life. You're putting a lot of shit on the line. And you're not partying you're not you you're you gotta fine-tune your weapon over the course of eight weeks of long hard grueling fucking training and to have all that judged by someone who's just totally incompetent and is completely out of the loop as far as like transitions techniques the benefit of being in certain places the benefit of holding certain positions how do you how do you score around subjectively when you're looking at like all the different things that happen in

the round if you don't know which ones are good yeah how do you score that round what do you do you just you're guessing it's like it's like you said before about the system and that is in everything you see that i went to a wrestling show a wrestling show i went to like some uh my mate was wrestling greco and freestyle wrestling like proper wrestling so he went out and the people um i had a mate who's a freestyle wrestler he won commonwealth um gold for England. He's like the prospect. Now, we had the Olympics, didn't we?

The wrestling board, them old fuckers who haven't wrestled a day in their life, had three wild cards. One of them they used for a woman who's Russian. And the other two... A Russian woman wrestler? Yeah. But they got a got all of a sudden I'm hard

and she had a beard she had a beard as well of course she had a beard said Russian woman I heard you but the the two others the two other

wild cards they just didn't use didn't give it any British people my mate Leon Roberts who'd been wrestling like you say forever that's what reminded me wild cards they just didn't use. Didn't give it to any British people. My mate, Leon Roberts, who'd been wrestling,

like you say, forever, that's what reminded me, when you said it, he'd been wrestling since he was a kid. All the way, gets the Olympics, he's going to go and they don't use one of the wild cards, just don't use them.

Why? It's unbelievable. Well, there's a lot of corruption in sports. And wrestling's not even part of the Olympics now. Yeah, that's crazy. That's the newest thing to happen is that the olympic committee which has um figure skating right isn't that in there mate synchronized swimming synchronized swimming ping pong fucking no handball all which are fine to practice. Yeah, of course. If you enjoy doing them. Yeah. You can get really good at them. The idea that you can't have wrestling in the Olympics is insane. That's what the Olympics is based on.

It's one of the most important sports in MMA. It's the oldest. It's not the most important weapon in MMA. It's the ability to control whether or not the fight stays up or on the ground that you if you're the better wrestler you can dictate one of the most important aspects of fighting is where the fight takes place and if you can enforce your game plan on the fight you're very likely to win forget about mma forget about mma wrestling for kids is one of the best tools for character development of young athletes because it is

fucking brutal and it's really about heart and determination and it becomes about it becomes about your will to push forward your will to to make sure that you put in the miles in the morning so that in that second period you're the one who has more energy and you get to take down to bolden it's yeah there's so it's, achieving goals, competition without worrying about like getting knocked unconscious like boxing competition or martial arts competition. It's one of the most grueling ways to test yourself. But they're doing that and they're finding that out. Crazy. Just building a world full of pussies. We are building a world full of pussies.

We are building a world full of pussies. We really are. And the crazy thing is when a guy like you says that, they look at you and go, oh, this fucking meathead wants everybody to be fighting in the streets. No, not at all. No. But there's a benefit to character development

that a lot of people are missing. And it's one of the reasons our world is so cunty. It's because men don't have to be men anymore. You don't have to develop character. You don't have any like real good feel like the way you carry yourself and the way you live your life and the way you stand up for things and the way you sort of carve out your own destiny. That's a part. That's a whole part of being a man. And you benefit from any test that your will gets.

You benefit from any new experiences you can take into your situation. Amazon, they have them fucking – Bullet ants? Yeah. Yeah, with the gloves. That's why they test them. I think they just don't have the internet yet. Because if they had the internet, they would cut that shit right out.

They'd probably be doing it on the internet. They'd just be jerking off all day. If you gave the Amazon people the internet, they'd be like shit right out. They'd probably be doing it on the internet. They'd just be jerking off all day. If you gave the Amazon people the internet, they'd be like, I'll get all these bitches sucking their ass. I thought you meant with the fucking glove. No, not the glove. That'd be painful. Yeah, you'd be really gangster if you jerk off with a bulletproof bullet ant glove.

Yeah, maybe that's the next test. Maybe that's the next test. That's a Fairfax thing, isn't it? No. That's not been a Fairfax thing. Fairfax season 2024. Adam it? No. That's not been a Fairfax thing. Fear Factor season 2024. Adam Carolla is the new host. Yeah, there's no way you could survive more than 100 bullet ants on your dick.

I think you would just die. Even before, just knowing you have to do that test, you'd die. Before you even got the chance for it. Maybe you wouldn't even. If you don't know, folks, bullet ant is one of the most poisonous ants in the world and brian callan described it to me that's one of my favorite ways anybody's ever described it they say it feels like getting your if you get stung in your arm like getting your arm slammed in a car door for a day slam day. Slam, slam, slam. Just insane pain that brings you to your knees

and it lasts like a day. Imagine one in your dick hole. Rolling inside your dick hole and then stings the root of your ball bag. The veep. Your balls swell up like grapefruits. You can't walk to the grocery

store. You have to have people go food shopping for you. Can't walk around. But you could get one of those little scooters. And as long as you didn't fall off of it. You got disabled, bud. Yeah, get one of those fucking gyroscope things. What are those things called? Segways.

Segways, yeah. Those were supposed to be the shit at one point in time. People thought that they were going to take over the world. They thought that we weren't going to be walking down city streets anymore. It would just be segwaying back and forth, back and forth. We had the same thing in England, the Sinclair C5, which is now – it was like a – you've never heard of the Sinclair C5, have you? No, no. No, no.

Not many people have. What is it? It was like in the 1970s. It was this little fucking car which i think they might have had pedals and it was maybe solar powered and but they were for fortune now solar powered in the 70s yeah yeah i think so what something um they have solar power in the 70s you're talking about a sunroof they have a sunroof it's too warm is that what you're saying that's it they had a magnifying glass. Fucking hell. And it would come down and burn you.

No, I'm thinking it can't be pedals, but Sinclair C5, but they're worth a lot of money now. Really? Well, they're worth, because they're such a failure. They're now like a collector's item. It's a weird thing that we love,

like a lot of old shit. Is that it? There you go. Oh, there we go. So it looks like it's a pedal sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, okay. How do you steer it? Hi, guys. I do you steer it?

Hi guys, I'm on my Sinclair. You'll suck your dick. Not very many times. If you ask six times, you'll suck your dick. No. No. No. No.

No. Seven times a doozy. If you get to number six, you go, okay. Seven. Look at his socks. Any guy that wears socks like that will suck your dick. You just have to be persistent. You have to keep asking.

I'm sure all the other pictures of the guys look normal. Just keep asking them. Oh, nope. Nope. It's a gay pickup site disguised as a bike car. Wow. There's a forum, and on that forum, they talk about where they park their bikes.

Hey, I park mine by the big oak tree you know over being near the river where nobody goes all right i'll be dressed like a wizard it's like a dogging thing yeah this guy's dressed like a wizard he's out riding his little bike look at this guy behind him i'm working for harry potter and he's gonna meet him in the woods and suck his dick that's they go there and they uh they change the oil that's what it's called changing the oil they have like their own little fucking maybe that's why

it wasn't successful yeah it's CMO change my oil they wrote that at the end of their little post you know LOL

CMO change my oil okay where are we changing it right behind the oak tree over here oh boy I've got a leak in my oil faucet

that's what that guy's doing this kid's a victim poor little kid Right behind the oak tree over here. Oh, boy. I've got a leak in my oil faucet. That's what that guy's doing. This kid's a victim. Poor little kid. He doesn't even know what the fuck he's doing. He thought. He goes, I think those things would be cool to drive. Little did he know that he was getting involved in some sort of a rest stop cult.

Car accident with a tempo. That's a girl, actually. I think that's a girl. Yeah, that is a girl. Little did she know that she was getting involved in some rest area cult. Did you hear that the Pope is seeking immunity from prosecution? Boy, I started looking in on some of this Pope shit because so many people are so upset about what he did when he was a cardinal, apparently, or whatever the fuck he was, whatever magical title. He shielded people from child molestation charges. One of them was a guy who molested 200 deaf kids.

So they take this guy. They take these people. They put them into psychiatric care. Then gets out, molests more kids. It's fucking crazy. And the Pope shielded this guy. Took these people in many, many cases. There's been many cases of it.

Took these people and kept them away from prosecution. It's a terrifying, terrifying story of how someone who the people – I mean I think most people who are Catholic probably have no idea like how deep the organization goes with its willingness to protect pedophiles i don't think they want to know i don't think they want to know either but they like to think of it as it's part of being catholic and the idea being i have a friend and like i'm not a religious guy i don't i don't believe in religion i believe it's very possible that there's a higher power but i believe that whenever you let people write shit down and tell you what the fuck is supposed to be done and not supposed to be done, you lost it all. It's like people are corrupt. They've always been corrupt.

It's been proven. Yeah, and you're talking about people that lived a long time ago. We really didn't understand the distribution of information. We didn't understand writing things down. We didn't understand. You were just telling each other stories for a thousand years before anybody even wrote that down on paper. That's – I can't. I can't go with you on that, OK?

You can believe it if you like, and I see where you're coming from. It would be nice if it was true. But that doesn't mean that the people that choose to agree with that also choose to agree with pedophilia and child molestation and all this shit that's going on that that they they they're connected to the idea of god they're connected to the idea of of sin religion they're not connected to the reality of what these priests are doing so it's the fact that in this day and age question it though don't they avoid yeah they do nothing gets fucking done not look the other way it's an epidemic it's an epidemic okay if it was nascar race drivers fucking kids the shit would be closed down a long time ago

they've spent hundreds of millions of dollars paying people off hundreds of millions of dollars paying people off because they fuck their kids it's craziness it's not one case or two cases. How much money do you have to pay someone? It's hundreds of cases. You could not pay me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. If someone offered me money, I'd say, oh, this goes away.

I'm, you know, for, yeah, that's just pimping out your child. That's just selling your kid for sex. It's craziness. It's absolutely, the whole thing is crazy. But there's been many of these guys that were shielded from prosecution because of the pope. They should have been in jail in general population. There's nothing holy about these people. There's nothing pious about these people.

These are fucking sex criminals, and they're out there doing their thing. They don't even take their titles away. The devil made me do it. They don't even say that man they just sweep it under the rug and say that there's there's been guys that have said that the children have tempted the priests and that unknowingly not even knowing what they're doing yes have you heard of frankie boyle's joke frankie boyle's uh english comic no what is it what is this joke he says, why do – oh, no, I'm killing it, Anna. You're going to fuck this joke up. I might just download it and cut you off. He doesn't tell it like this.

But he says, why do kids always go for that type? Glasses and fucking – Oh, that's kind of funny. Why do kids always go for the type? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Priest type. Yeah. You know, just the fact that they're allowed to wear those outfits.

That alone. You can't allow anybody to ever have a fancy name or wear a fancy outfit. Because all they're saying with a fancy name or a fancy outfit is, I'm better than you. I'm a general. Look at my fancy outfit. Look at all my shit. I'm a king. Look at my fancy outfit.

Look at all my fancy shit. I got a fancy title. I'm the pope. Oh, look at my fancy outfit. Look at my fancy title. You got to leave me. You're telling me's wearing a crazy outfit. And when you're young, those people have – That's just what happens. You haven't questioned the whole world yet.

So when you see a guy that's wearing a pope outfit and he wants you to suck his dick or – what are those bishop outfits? They're not the same as the pope outfits, right? But there's a whole bunch of stories of these guys who they don't even lose their title. There's an ABC News report on it. And see if you can pull that up on the Pope and child molestation charges that he protected. There's a crazy ABC News story about it.

And it's really fucking frightening. It's really frightening to think of how much money is spent protecting these priests and a lot of it is done under the guise of if they can keep it quiet then they can keep the business going because the catholic church is like a business you know like the the vatican is a giant business it's a huge business so when shit got too hot with this guy like listen man we need a new ceo you gotta get the fuck out of here so it's not why is that why he's quit because of that there's only one reason why he would be trying to avoid prosecution well there's two there's one there's some sort of a money scheme

there's some sort of a money laundering scandal there's like missing money or missing or did not placed money I don't know what what that's all about I don't know if that's valid. And then there's this. And this is much scarier because this is the guy who's at the highest level of that position. I mean he's a pope. It's a frightening thing to think someone could get to that position and have avoided what the laws are. But just what natural – his moral compass should be

that a person who's a pedophile is not, you don't put them into just psychiatric care and move them to a new place where they can molest children. You put them in jail. They're criminals. Whether or not they're sorry, that's beside the point. That person has victimized someone and the law is such as when someone does that, they're supposed to be locked up. Just like murder.

Just like robbery. There's a lot of laws. And you can't shield someone from that law because they wear a fancy outfit. That's crazy. That's bananas. And that can't keep going. It just can't. And it's much like what we were talking about, like kings. I mean, the thing with Jimmy Savile in England.

And how far that goes. And and i tell you he called that yeah and you but by the way my my friend steve who's english was just telling me this story this weekend i wasn't aware of it and i bet a lot of people who are listening to this also weren't aware of it tell the jimmy saville story as best you can i'll help you i'll decipher some of the shit say if it's like subtitles is it is your accent is it would you call it cockney no no that's what is it that's london what is your accent northern i'm a northern a northern monkey okay so there's jimmy savile that's how you say his name he was a huge popular uh he had the um the first ever nightclub in um the 70s the first ever nightclub in the 70s. The first ever nightclub? In Britain.

Yeah, I remember an interview and he was talking about it. So the first ever nightclub, he was the DJ, then went on Top of the Pops, then he had Jim O'Fixit, which was a massive- And Jim O'Fixit was a huge television show, right? Yes, with all the kids. With kids. So this guy would have you be sitting on a chair like a king, kids sitting in his lap, kids hanging around him. Yeah yeah and you get a medal

jim jim fixed it for you yeah and a fucking rape badge yeah right and this guy apparently had just molested hundreds of kids well and the bbc knew about it was that the whole scandal it's it's how much did they know and how much it also not only did not also not not only was he like that sorry sorry about that

no need for that not only did they know about it yeah not only did they know about it they meanwhile he speaks English so I'm like trying to help him

with English that's not a good sign is it that means I'm not doing very well when Joe's like cheering me on going i'm sorry so jimmy salville he did he did a lot of charity runs he did a lot of things like that and he did

them things to get the publicity and he got his own ward on a children's hospital a mental hospital so he could stay there and that's what he did he did these runs and anyone say anything he would like proper play them off so they'd say well okay you can say something but you won't be getting X amount of checks

when I do the run for this or the run for that so a lot of people knew that something was going on he was molesting people and it was necrophilia necrophilia yeah

what yeah that's out and I tell you that's out that's out now so no no he... That's out. It's out now. So... No, no, no.

He's in the Colossus. There's Jimmy Savile. You saw him fight dead guys. How did he get dead bodies? Oh, because he was at the hospital. He had the keys. He had everything. Oh, my God.

He had total control of it. And he was opening hospitals. He was in the royal family. Oh, my God. There's so many pictures of him with the royal family he was like proper proper friends with him yeah he was up there you have loads of picture of him with the royal family throw out some kids pull out two little kids could you imagine he's a pedophile necrophiliac he's like

he probably was fucking kids he's a pedophile necrophiliac? He probably was fucking kids. He's like, this is not evil enough. I need a fucking dead one. I need a fucking dead one. Put on. Look on YouTube, Brian, for there's a clip where he's molesting a famous band. There's a lady. Oh, fuck.

What's her name? What is his name? Jimmy. How do you spell it? Top of the pops. Jimmy what? Saville. Spell it.

S-E-V-I-L-L-E? S-E-V-I-L-L-E? I might be wrong. Yeah, I got it. Is that it? So you've got Jimmy Saville molests, or fills up, fills up top of the pops. He's filling up one of these,

I can't remember the fucking name. Here we go. Have you found it. Turn the volume up here. He is a creepy fucker too. I mean, if you look at him, he's arctic. It's like you look at him and you think, hey, did, and he's meant to be the one

who broke it so much for other stars and other people to fuck children. He was meant to be the man. Well, that's one of the things they's saying about oh there he is look at him so ladies and gentlemen all we can say is good night from all of us here on top of the pops and it's number one time and of course if you believe me now it's from the one and only she car girl and thank you very much indeed what was he doing? I don't know. I guess he had his finger up her like a... Oh, look at her.

Oh, he just pinched her ass. The one in the yellow. They did it again. Look. He's like grabbing at her. That's not even the one I was talking about. That's a different one. Oh, my God.

I don't blame him. You know, it's just a bunch of chicks. He got a little crazy. He got a little carried away. That wasn't too bad. It's funny. He's seen all the young kids. know, he's brought a bunch of chicks. He got a little crazy. He got a little carried away. That wasn't too bad. It's funny you see him at all the young kids. Well, and that's a woman, too. That's not a child.

And apparently he did this to a bunch of children. And he had a fucking show about it. If you pull up Jim will fix it, Brian, it's really crazy when you see him. He had these children scattered around him and sitting on his lap. Yeah. And apparently people knew about it. They knew he was doing it, the people around him and sitting on his lap. Yeah. And apparently the people knew about it. They knew he was doing it. The people around him.

It's like, that's my childhood. Well, no, that's not my childhood. That's like, he was, that Jim will fix.

It was big then. Oh man. Everyone was writing letters to old Jim. How long did this go on for? Well, fucking ever. He died. No one knew about it.

No one knew about it. He one knew about it until he died. He got knighted. He got knighted. He got knighted. What year? Uh... It doesn't say. Does it say on the top?

Like in the information? Wow. What year was this on? All the way through the 70s and 80s, I think. Wow. You don't know. Oh, this is weird. Was it a surprise? Yeah.

You sure? Yeah. She said that you had to prick your goose pimples because you didn't believe what was happening. Is that right? Yeah. What were you shouting? Have we won?

Have we won? What was all that for? Have we won? Have we won? What was all that for? Have we won? Um, we, we, are we, we, we sort of meant, are we going to be on? No, you're not going to be on Jimmelfixit now. Very sorry. Very sorry.

I'm afraid we can't be on Jimmelfixit because anybody with goose pimples, it so happens, can come on Jimmelfixit. If you have goose pimples, you can come on. What is this? You English people are fucking weird, man. I don't know what the fuck this is. Like, what's happening? That girl has Johnny Carson eyes, too.

This one's name is Prancer. You can give him a little pat on the nose. You'll like that. Everyone knows Santa Claus does not talk like that, and that cab is going to bite that kid's fingers off. How about that, eh? Now, I've got two very special presents for you. The veineday molester.

I love how it says drugjail.com. Those are the people that are holding it. What the fuck is... Wow. So that guy was a huge, huge celebrity in England. No one had any idea, huh? Well, a lot of people had an idea, and that's just it. How many people knew?

That's the big thing now. But the public as a whole... Isn't it amazing how many stories like that turn out to exist and how many secrets actually get kept with horrible situations like that like the jerry sandusky thing they they kept that a secret for a long time and it wasn't like a little secret like oh i might be getting some on the shore snaky snaky it wasn't that no no it was he was fucking a gang of kids and everybody knew it and somehow or another he got away with it that's why we come supposes i think he can keep secrets yeah you know there was a guy who investigated jerry sandusky that disappeared too there's a prosecutor they found

his laptop without the hard drive in a river never found him yeah he fucking see uh disappeared they they killed the guy investigating and i and i asked my friend joey it was like joey diaz was like why would they do it he goes you know how much fucking money is involved in college sports? And so he pulls up like all these stats on college sports, like how much the alumni get, like how much like a college can get from people donating people that used to go there. It's billions of dollars. It's crazy money. It's ridiculous how much money it is. And that's sort of the same thing with the Vatican.

That's sort of the same thing with this BBC program. There's a lot of people making money and nobody wanted to fuck it up. Same thing with Jerry Sandusky. It's the same thing. It's like somehow or another people conspire to allow horrible things to happen to children. They just don't think about it. Well, I don't know. It's not that they don't think about it.

It's that they think about money more than they think about what's right. At this point in time, there's no way anybody can... It's not like you're shocked when you hear about a priest molesting a kid. No. No one's shocked. You're angered. You're saddened.

You're horrified, but you can't... I don't believe it. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's not possible. If you found out, like, say, that Brad Pitt was a child molester, you'd be devastated. You'd be like, how the fuck? That doesn't make sense. That's nuts. But you hear that a priest is doing it.

You're like, that's the pattern. That's the pattern. Yeah, they're the ones who do it. That's on the application form. It comes up a lot. I don't know if it's all of them. I'm sure it's not all of them. But man, it's a lot of them.

I'm sure there's a good percentage of priests out there that are in it for the right reasons and doing the right things. But if there was that many Kinko's copy workers that fuck kids, wouldn't they shut down Kinko's as an illegal kid fucking organization? Wouldn't they go in and look at what's going on here and go what are you guys doing

you making envelopes and kids fucking are you making cockies one of them's got a goal at least Kinko's has a fucking business they actually provide a service you know these crazy fucks are telling mumbo jumbo

blowing little kids Christopher Hitchens he was fucking fucking wicked, wasn't he? Yes, he was. He was a brilliant, brilliant man. He got the Iraq war wrong, didn't he? Well, he became a bit of a neocon. I think a lot of older, more conservative guys, especially people that loathe radical fundamentalist religions,

which he did, I think he felt like it was important to have that sort of a strong military stance against the tyranny of the religious world. I don't agree with that either. I think when you have that kind of power, it ultimately corrupts. And when you allow people to just go into countries and under the guise of doing that, you're going to get a gang of corruption and chaos and craziness like they have in Iraq right now. I mean, Iraq right now is fucking bananas.

I mean, it's more unstable than it's ever been before. What is Afghanistan like? That's fucking crazy too. The more you look into it, the more you see. But it's just, what do people want to know? Do people want to know? They're busy. They've got nine to five.

They've got a few kids. They have no time. They've got no time for anything. No time. And it's all the way over there. Yeah. It's way over there. It's way over there.

It's fucking miles away. James Thompson, we're not going over there. We don't have to worry about that. Just stay over here and get a burger. Sit back, relax. UFC's on. Yeah, no. And that's it.

It's so easily done. So you're not fighting for the Superfight League anymore? No. Who are you fighting for now? No one. No one. Are you training anywhere specific? No.

I'm training at Olympians. I'm Paddy Johns. I'm now training at... Where's that at? In Bristol. Bristol? I was training at London Shoot Fighters. Great team.

Yeah. But I needed to get out of London with my gambling and things like that. You know Marius? Marius. Oh, yeah, I do. Yeah, yeah. He mentioned a few times. He's a great guy.

Yeah. I said hi. Yeah, I will do. Great guys. Yeah. They are wicked. Yeah. Do you know when you tell the story about Germany?

What story about Germany? Sorry. The Eddie Bravo story? Yeah. Yeah. It's really weird. I listen to the podcast all the time

a massive fan when I hear that story I was at that fight with Moss I was at that hotel with Moss I seen you at breakfast but you had loads of people

I didn't want to bother you so I didn't say anything and then on that night I was coming home fucking really late and I

pressed the button for the elevator and eddie bravo was there and his eyes were so red like that's all i could see was like redness and uh and he's like and i got it but it's just weird when you tell that story you saw it you like a little tiny sliver of it you know you knew yeah it's gone yeah for folks who don't know the story eddie eddie bravo and i were staying in germany once and i i was getting breakfast it was like i don't know seven in the morning or something like that our flight we were getting picked up at like 8 30 so i call him up and i say hey man i'm getting some breakfast if

uh if you're hungry. I'm downstairs. And he goes, I'm still up, man. I'm going to power through. He was up all night. I was like, okay, you know we're getting picked up in an hour and a half. I got it, man. I got it. I'm cool.

I'm like, all right, shit. So an hour and a half goes by. I'm like, where the fuck is Eddie? I can't find him. He's not answering the phone. I go to his room. I knock on his door. He's not in his room. I go outside'm like motherfucker where is he and then i go all right then i'm just gonna tell

him he's gonna have to take a cab to the airport when he wakes up because i gotta go i'm not gonna miss my fucking flight if i can't get a hold of him so i go to go to get my car i said yeah i'm a car for rogan he goes rogan already left and i go what i go what did he look like he has long hair tattoos like motherfucker red eyes eddie told him he was me and he got in my car and went to the airport on his own he did this all blacked out drunk so i call him his phone rings and he wakes up and he like he answers it he's like hello i go what the fuck are you doing i don't know and i go i go you're in my fucking car and you're going to the airport tell him to turn around he's like i think we're already here i'm like fuck man what are you doing he woke up he had no idea what he

did he asked the guy he goes where are we where are we going the guy's like you told me you're going to the airport you're joe rogan he's. He was just – Eddie Bravo could fucking party, man. He knows how to put them away. He knows how to let it go. I'll tell you that. He used to work for the UFC too, didn't he? Yeah, he did a bunch of different things for the UFC. One of the things he did was for a while – and I really think this was a –

someone needs to do this, and Eddie's really good at it. Someone needs to do an objective and Eddie's really good at it. Someone needs to do an objective breakdown, like Harold Letterman style, of how they felt the fight went down. I think it behooves the organization to have a professional ringside statistician, or ringside, rather, judge. Like an unofficial judge, like Harold Letterman has in HBO. And Eddie Bravo did that for a while. But I think there was an issue with him and his opinions wouldn't necessarily go with how the judges scored the fight. And I don't think the commission liked that. So I don't think the state athletic commission enjoyed having someone essentially who was a professional critic.

So they didn't want that. And so especially with a new sport, you have to make some concessions. So they decided not to have that anymore. But I personally think that it is a good – it's good in two ways. It's not that I want people to get fired who are competent. I think people who are competent should stay. But people who are incompetent should be exposed. It should be highlighted.

It should be highlighted. It's very important. And the idea that their job is more important their silly easy job that they're not really qualified for is as important as a person like yourself that's put six eight weeks of your life day in day out grind watching your diet doing the work for this one moment that gets ruined because someone doesn't understand what the fuck they're doing that's craziness and one of the best ways to expose that is like how harold letterman does it and harold letterman is you know if there's a bad decision he will tell you i don't understand it i had it down 94 points to jones there's no way he could have lost this fight but that's healthy like

you say that's what you need you need it well that's why they don't want it. So Eddie did that for a while. And then he also would do the – when you put together like a highlight package in the end of the round. You know, like when a guy – like say a guy is going for a submission. Okay. Eddie would tell them, you got to get the camera over here. Like where his wrist is. This is what's important. I can be controlling. Yeah.

And then he would say – you know, like – he would help them piece together the highlights. He would be in the truck. He was in the truck and he was calling. And sometimes he would tell me something too. He would like, hey, look for his left arm. He's going for a triangle or something like that. And he would give me a pointer here and there and point out certain things if he saw things. here and there and point out certain things if he saw things. But he was basically there to coordinate the highlight reels and tell them where to put

their camera on, which is very important. Mark De La Grata does it now. And you need a guy who has been around fighting, understands where there's a problem. And he knows how to put together the highlight reel. He knows it was the jab that started off. Watch the jab makes his knees buckle. And then he lands the leg kick. And then he comes together the highlight reel. He knows it was the jab that started off. Watch the jab makes his knees buckle. And then he lands the leg kick. And then he comes with the high kick.

So Mark will do that now. Yeah, no, but didn't he work for Pride too, Eddie Bravo? Yeah, he did. He was one of the color commentators for Pride for a few events. And he also did King of the Cage. He did the color commentary for King of the cage for a bunch of events yeah did you ever see the king of the cage one that they did yeah well that's what i was gonna bring up it was raining out and so they just said fuck it we're gonna have the fights anyway it was

outside if you haven't seen it it's worth getting if it's available if you can find it somewhere king of the cage went wild it was it was fucking ridiculous it was completely ridiculous yeah everyone was literally slipping they were flying all over the place and i mean if you're a wrestler good good luck holding on to a guy who's like completely soaked i mean people were just slipping out of dude's hands like bars of soap it was bad it was coming down too yeah fucking mental well those are the days man you know and you were part of the the those are the days too with your pride fights man you were part of some epic shit you were part of pride when it was like at its peak what was that like man then what was the atmosphere like of those events it's like a culture shock like

obviously in japan it's so different do you know i mean just everything's so different and i remember coming out to fight and um like we said earlier i ain't be fighting long and you know coming up for a fucking helmet you know i've been fighting in front of 2000 excuse me 2000 people and you know walking out in their fucking leisure centers and then walking out for a fucking lift full of smoke and lights and fucking walking for a samurai helmet do you know what i mean yeah oh fucking hell it's a lot to take in what was the biggest crowd that you uh fought under about 60 well they always say it's more than they said about 80,000 so i reckon about 60 60,000 people i've seen that before at the rogers center in um toronto we had had a UFC there, and it was somewhere around 60,000 between 58.

Yeah, yeah. It's so crazy. You're looking around. You're like, this is a lot of fucking people. And then there's points in a Japanese. Everyone's quiet. 60,000 quiet people. Everyone's quiet.

Because I remember, and the lights went down because the other guy was getting it. I can't remember who it was. It was coming in, and the lights went down because the other guy was getting it. I can't remember who it was. It was coming in, and the lights went down, and I couldn't hear anything. And I was thinking, fuck. Am I dreaming or something? Do you know what I mean? You can't hear anything.

It's all black, and then the fucking lights come back on, and you're thinking, fuck, here now, there we go. Am I dreaming? Wow. And then you get punched in the face, and you think, nope, I'm awake. Well, it must have been especially crazy for you because how many fights did you have outside of Pride? I had, I thought, I don't know, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th. Probably, I had quite a few in a short amount of time.

Like 10 or 11 you had? No, I had about 13 fights. 13 fights before Pride? Probably. Give or take. That's a lot of fights to have over a year and a half period.

Yeah, I was literally loving it. I moved next to the gym and I was like, this is what I'm going to do. Wow. And just back and forth, going everywhere and just training my ass off.

And you see the difference in my kind of physical, my fitness and that. From my first fight to maybe my fourth fight, I look completely different. Yeah, I'm sure. Completely different. What is the getting drunk with Fedor story? It was, I can't remember what.

He beat Matt Cunt. And I'd come home and I was fucking pissed and I seen Fedor in the hallway in the reception and when he turned to see me sorry sorry when he turned round

and saw me I started swaying like just fucking about you know what I mean and then he was like so then I went over and he started wrestling with me and I started fucking about wrestling and I thought oh in he was like ah so then I went over to him he started wrestling with me you know I started fucking about wrestling and I thought oh in a minute

he's gonna sambo me I was looking at the fucking cold marble thinking please don't fucking don't please don't fucking flip me down but yeah and then he brought me down um to have a drink with all these um all these Russian Vladimir whatever. Putin? No. This is in pride. This is in Japan. Vladimir Matyushenko. He's like his fucking manager. Oh, Matyushenko. Yeah, I didn't pronounce it perfect. That was his manager?

Yeah. Oh, Vadim. Vadim Finkelstein. I'm thinking of a different guy. Vladimir Matyushenko is a fighter. The UFC fighter. The janitor. Yeah, you're right. I get mixed up. The janitor. Yeah, yeah. You're right. I get mixed up. I didn't pronounce it that way. Not only did I pronounce it terribly, I got the wrong fucking person.

But doesn't Putin come to his fights too? He's a huge superstar in Russia, right? Massive. I mean, people who know MMA, he's a massive superstar. Fedor and his peak man was one of my all-time favorites. One of my all-time favorites. He was just so special because he was so stoic. Fedor and his peak man was one of my all-time favorites. One of my all-time favorites. He was just so special because he was so stoic,

you know, like this just dead-faced killer. And if you go back and you watch the highlight fights, like the Noguera fights, Crow Cop, when he was really at his very best, man, he was exceptional. Very, very fun to watch. He really, I mean, everyone's seen that many times, that fucking Van Dorman slam. Incredible. And then he relaxes and then comes back,

and then minutes later he's got a key lock. How did he survive that? Yeah. How did he survive that? He's so relaxed. His body's so relaxed. But just to avoid injury, to get slammed like that and avoid injury is incredible. He just didn't want it anymore. He just lost. His body's so relaxed. But just to avoid injury, to get slammed like that and avoid injury is incredible.

He just didn't want it anymore. He just lost. He lost. Well, also competition is getting better, bigger guys. Well, I think you can only keep up that certain, that RPMs, that certain sort of workload that he was at. You can only keep that up for a certain amount of time. There's issues with the body, the body breaking down after combat sports of 10, 15 years. Unless you're Randy Couture, who's just, I don't know how he did it, but whatever he

did, he managed to avoid injury. The one thing that no one avoids. People who have competed in mixed martial arts, if you look at issues along the way, like guys who have broken hands guys who have had this guys have had that guys who tore knees guys who like needed neck operations so many guys randy didn't need shit no one broken arm in a fight with gonzaga gonzaga broke his arm with a kick got his arm his arm in a cast no big deal you know six weeks later he's fucking hitting a speed bag. It's like, how did that guy avoid injury? He's amazing.

No, no, no. Intelligence, toughness, genetics, there's a whole bunch of things working his way. But it's really incredible. But for most guys, there's only a certain amount of time you can operate at a high level before you lose your drive for it. Yeah, your politics and life gets in the way. He got super religious too. Didn't he? Fedor got a really, it's actually

not even Fedor, do you know that's what we call it? It's Fyodor. A Russian friend of mine from Jiu-Jitsu was explaining how you actually say his name. It's Fyodor. Fyodor. Yeah. Like Dostoevsky, you know? That's like, we call him fedor because it's like easier

but fedor gotta be honest fedor fedor sounds better fedor is a little so to break it to you russian falcor would be much with your crazy language he was a he was a such a nice guy though you know he was a the guy at the top all the time you know always had time for everyone it wasn't like an outlandish person or he's like very quiet and do you know what i mean but i had time for everyone like wow do you know i mean you really i i really had a lot of a lot of time for him he's an unusual dude like his demeanor was just so different than anybody that had ever been around before yeah it's that was one of the things that was kind of special about him. It's like we had been used to so many different things.

We had used to certain boxers that had certain charisma about them, whether it's Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard or Mike Tyson. They have this certain culted aura about them. He was different than all of them. He was like, oh, here's this new thing from a guy who plays chess and doesn't get freaked out at anything and keeps his stoic and just beats your ass you know like here's this new look where a guy seems like he's kind of a robot or something it's like yeah and he manages to smash like really tough guys managed to walk down crow cop he beat

crow cop not just on the ground he beat him him standing up. Yeah, he did, yeah. His reaction is so fucking quick as well. So quick. He's an animal. And he fucking trained really smart. He trained really smart and really hard. But even then, like, they started questioning his training methods and his, you know, after he went over to Affliction and fought those fights. And then the Strikeforce shit shit he just got smashed man over and over again just getting smashed by henderson and getting smashed by bigfoot

you know watching those fights and watching those those brutal beatdowns just gotta go man it's hard yeah it's fucking hard especially the bigfoot fight yeah and well especially for him when he's so used to winning yeah Yeah. Just the way it is. Even Brett Rogers. Like, Brett Rogers put up a good fight. He did. He put up a good fight. It was a good, tough fight.

And, you know, Fedor eventually caught him and cracked him. But, man, you've got to look at that fight and go, like, he's not supposed to struggle like that with Brett Rogers. Same with Mark Hunt. He's not the same guy anymore. He struggled with know what after the story when i mean he did struggle that he did a little bit mark hunt had him on the ground and had his arm locked up in uh in in uh kimura but didn't couldn't pull it off couldn't do anything with it but it was crazy how he was able to do it like he was able to get his arm even and

even have it locked out yeah yeah like that's so bold yeah and then verdoom obviously exposed not exposed but exposed the fact when i say exposed the fact that he's human i mean everybody thought he was just an unstoppable robot and also verdoom exposed him as a human he tapped him and when i say exposed i have great respect for fedor it's not when i say and people give me shit from saying that but this is absolutely not what I mean when I say he was exposed. What I mean was that we found out he was human because anybody Fabricio Verdum catches in his triangle is fucked. That guy is a master at the triangle. And that triangle armbar was nasty and Fedor was stuck.

He had to tap. Nothing wrong with that. But what we thought before was that that could never happen. It seemed, he had to tap. Nothing wrong with that. But what we thought before was that that could never happen. It seemed like he was a superhero. It seemed like he was like Mike Tyson when he lost to Buster Douglas. Nobody thought Tyson was going to lose. We thought Tyson was going to be around

forever just destroying people. And then when he got destroyed, you're like what? This can't be real. He was so excited. He was exposed. And it's not that he was one of the greatest fighters of all time. Mike Tyson is absolutely one of the greatest boxers of all time. One of the greatest heavyweight champions, the most exciting of all time. But he's exposed in that fight as a human being.

Not as a bad fighter. He's amazing. But that's a human. Every human is subject to the laws of physics and nature and you know and you could only you know you only go so far as meat vehicles. Yeah I think I think it's the mental side of it too obviously I don't know but I just think Fedor didn't have the same... Drive anymore?

Yeah. I think it's hard to keep up after all those years you know years and years and years and years of hard training, being away from your family. And again, he got really religious, too. Why are you doing it? Are you doing it to test yourself? Are you doing it for money? Are you, you know, doing it to be number one?

You know, what is it? What are your motives behind it? You know, it fucking hurts. It's hard. Yeah. Mentally and physically. And it's to keep it up, to get there unbelievably hard, to keep it up as unbelievable,

and to keep it up for as long as he did, you only have a certain amount of RPMs that you can push for. There's only a certain amount, especially in a crazy situation like cage fighting, you've got to think there's only a certain amount of times a man can get hit. There's only a certain amount of times a man can get thrown or armbarred or kicked. There's a finite number in there somewhere. And he's a smart guy.

He has to have realized that at a certain point in time. And then Verdum and then Bigfoot and then Henderson. It's like, okay, you know. Yeah. What a legacy, though. Yeah, what a legacy. They were trying to put together Brock Lesnar and Fedor

really recently the UFC was but he doesn't want to do it anymore yeah but I get it they say that but I mean

were they I don't know oh did Brock Lesnar or Fedor don't want to do it because I don't think Brock Lesnar was too happy

Brock Lesnar would have done it do you think so yeah they offered him a fuck load of money I bet he would have done it yeah I don't know Brock he looked like offered him a fuckload of money. I bet he would have done it. Yeah.

I don't know. Brock? He looked like he didn't want to. He looked like, I mean, he had the surgery, which was massive. That was a huge issue. He had, for folks who don't know, he had diverticulitis. And they removed like 12 inches of his colon. It was a very serious internal surgery.

It was a very serious internal surgery it was a real injury and then X amount of months later however it was he's fighting Alistair Overeem and Overeem knees him in the body and kicks him in the body and have an Overeem kick you in the body like oh Jesus Christ

to me before I think he was thinking about the fight I think he was worried I mean you're obviously worried about every fight but I think he was thinking about the fight. I think he was worried. I mean, you're obviously worried about every fight, but I think he was even more because I don't. From what I saw when Kane beat him, he turned his back. He turned his back on that fight. Shane Carwin got him standing as well.

I mean, I think personally Brock Lesnar is one of the greatest athletes to ever enter into MMA. I really do. I just think that if he was going to do it, what he did is what you did, just jumped right into the defense. Not what he did. But even crazier.

He was fighting Frank Mayer, second fight. Yeah, second fight. Second fight, Frank Mayer. He basically Puginowski'd it, but he pulled it off. Yeah, yes. He did the same, very similar path. Even harder. Much, much, much, much harder path, no doubt about it.

Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir. No doubt. Randy Couture. I mean, his fucking career is ouster over him. His career is filled with champions. And when you look at that Calhoun fight, he's not like he can't take a punch. Fuck me. Calhoun landed the elbow, and I thought it was over.

Do you know what I mean? And he came back to win convincingly. Well, his fight with Heath Haring, you know, his fight in the UFC, his third fight in the UFC, or his second fight in the UFC. Seasoned veteran and a tough motherfucker. Heath Haring is tough as shit. And Brock Lesnar just ran him over. This is a guy that was a super athlete, but he would have had to, in order to do it really truly correctly, he would have had to build up slowly.

He would have had to do it intelligently. He would have had to do it over quite a long period of time, and he should have fought the right amount of competition along the way. Instead, he went right to champions. He went right to the greatest fighters in the world today. He went to Cain Velasquez, Overeem. He was Shane Carwin. He went to Cain Velasquez, Overeem, Shane Carwin.

He was just right into these animals. Whereas if he had gone for a few years in the lower organizations, building up, trying to fight for some other companies, get a good record against some good fighters, and then put together a real striking game. Yeah, well that was the the thing because he had power

and he was explosive. Do you know what I mean? But that's how he wanted to do it. He did it his way and he's out. See ya. I'm fair play to him. Yeah. Too bad though because when it comes to making money,

if you want to make money off a draw, you think Kimbo slices a draw? Brock Lesnar is a fucking draw. That's a guy that people want to see fight. I mean, he looks like the baddest motherfucker in the world. You see him standing there? If you're going to have a guy, you're just a big Viking-looking motherfucker. That would be the guy that you would want to have represent you.

That tattoo, though. The sword in his chest. Brock, what? I lost it, mate. You're i lost it mate you're laughing at mine you're laughing at mine fucking hell would you laugh at brock like that where he's fucking i would have to break it to him slowly i think i would laugh i think at the very least i would uh ryan keely's working for that show tattoo nightmares where it's they take tattoos and you go on the show and they change they fix it for you

and the reality show and she's like she contacted me she's like do you know any mma fighters that want you know have a tattoo they don't want to get fixed or anything like that and i'm like i have no idea the only one i can think of is brock she goes i must contact brock and so now she's like contacting brock like no no leave him alone don't even say anything oh you don't want that at all why did you say brock no because it's the only one that came to mind that like you know when you see that one tattoo it kind of looks like a statue or you think you think he should change it does he think he should change no i don't think he does that's what i told her i was like i think that's the only one i could think of you know it's like little mermaid before they edited the cover yeah i don't think he would appreciate

you saying that his tattoo sucks no i'm not saying it sucks it looks like a cock at all joe yeah i didn't say that no you did say that i didn't say that that's what's important didn't i didn't say it either did neither one of us did say it looks like a cock yeah well i think like he was at a point in his life i think though his uh description of it like he felt like he had a knife to his throat so he just fucking tattooed one on his body that's whatever you know i can't you know look like say i've got fucking dates crossed out my fucking arm do you know what i mean so you're not gambling at all now is that the deal well last time i mean i'm doing a documentary, and I, basically, I was doing the documentary, I gambled up the rest of my money, well, me and my missus' money, and I ended up living in the gym.

Whoa. Yeah, and it was fucking freezing. God damn. So I was living in the gym on a mattress and I got offered people offered me to stay other places but I knew I needed something big to get me back into training I was 145 kilos What's that in pounds?

It's like 300 pounds? 300 plus pounds like 330 or something and I'm not good weight either I've been that heavy before, but it's been muscle. Right. Or mostly muscle. This was fat, like unadulterated, pure fat.

I was in the gym living on a mattress, and then I had the documentary. Cy was going to be starting that, and I thought, oh, okay, we'll film it in here. So I started doing it and I started getting more, getting good footage and getting more confident. And then, you know,

I always, the only thing good I started, um, was my, in my, with my blog. The only good thing I started doing a gambler was my blog. And,

uh, you know, started, started doing that and getting out there. And it's gone really well. Yeah, you started this sort of social media campaign around the same time, is that what it was? Social media campaign? Yeah, well, the videos, the blogs, all that stuff.

Yeah, but basically I got confidence in my writing. I think I'm a good writer. I get extra credit because I look the way I do, and I'm an MRA fighter, so they think, oh, we'll have a go. And then, oh, we can string a sentence together, you know, and I'll take that extra credit. Yeah, no, it's fun writing. You have fun with it in school.

Colossal Concerns it's called, right? Yeah, Colossus Concerns. I've got my website. Colossus Concerns. And where can they get it? What is the actual website? I've got a website. It's the colossal collective.com.

So it's colossal concerns, not colossus concerns. Oh yeah. I always get that wrong. My missus goes mad at me every fucking time. I get it wrong. Concern every fucking video I've done. Well,

everything. We got it right. Hang on. So what did I say? Colossal collective.com. That's where my blog is. My podcast. No,

that's my blog. Colossal. It's all in one place. Colossal collective. Yeahcom. That's where my blog is, my podcast. No, that's my blog. Colossal Collective. It's all in one place. Colossal Collective. Yeah, because this website I'm looking at right now is ColossalConcerns.com. Yeah, it's Colossal Collective. Okay, so Colossal Collective has everything? Dude, you're like a collective.

You are a collective. You're a living collective. That's what it's all about. Yeah, I guess, right? It is about marketing yourself, right? No, definitely. Did you feel like in Japan they had a different attitude towards people winning and losing it's all about yeah i guess right it is about marketing yourself right no no definitely did you feel like um in japan they had a different attitude towards people winning and losing than

anywhere else in the world massively because it's a big difference right yeah it's a samurai and it's fighting spirit like my first fight's fucking joke running across the ring at a guy you know knock him over and he kicks my ass it's a fucking joke but. But what did they appreciate? They appreciated that I fucking gave it everything and it was something different. And in America, I'm a joke. Okay. But they gave me another chance, the Japanese, and I won my next couple of fights

and that gave me a chance to keep going, which I appreciate. Well, it's fascinating that you've seen both ends of the spectrum. You've seen the Japanese way of doing things where you respect the people who show warrior spirit and try. And then you've seen the the japanese way of doing things where you respect the people who show warrior spirit and try and then you've seen america you got to get you to the hospital we got to get you to the hospital yeah james thompson has gone to the hospital apparently he's almost

dead kimbo almost beat him to death and he's wearing megan's yeah you you have a campaign against skinny jeans is that that what it is? Well, it's men's fashion as a whole. Men's fashion as a whole. And fucking alpha nail. Alpha nail is created by the people. It was originally created by the people that do on it. Yeah, I know. Sorry about that.

Sorry. I made fun of him constantly. Good. Well, listen, the guy, Aubrey, the guy who I'm business with, is an awesome dude. And a lot of guys in MMA wore makeup and wore nail polish, which is essentially makeup. I mean, it is makeup. I mean, it's makeup. It's nail polish, but it's makeup. What are you doing?

Not that color of your toes. Did you paint them that color? That's makeup. So your toenails don't crack. Yeah. That's what they say. But some guys actually do have like i think frank twig might have been the one who started out he had like uh problems with his toenails i don't believe it you

think he just likes tate fletcher used to always have his yeah it was a thing that happened for a while when mma sort of was like starting to pop and some guys still do it i notice it in fights some guys still have their toenails painted guys can do whatever they want want, but I did this and obviously it's tongue in cheek. But, you know, people can wear whatever the fuck they want. But I do think men's fashion. Yeah, and what we're saying,

what you did, there's a video. It's men against meggings, right? Yeah, men against meggings. It's pretty funny, man. You take the meggings off and you burn them. Is that like those leggings,

pants? Well, they're lycra. They're lycra? They're they're like they're like they're like fucking they're like tight for men but they call yourself leggings you call them megan's that's a clever fucking oh right and men wear them on the street they walk around with them on they're not you're not talking about the gym right no because a lot of guys wear them for training don't get defensive yeah because i wear those for training. Don't get defensive. Don't get defensive, Joe. Yeah, because I wear those for training. I'm like, am I a megging wearer? Listen, at the end of the video, it's me being comfortable.

Look at that sweet little touch in the megging. Little damp spot. It's the Andy Dick show. Joe, come on. Yeah, that's a good look for you. I don't know why you're not embracing it. So you take – Look at that battle robe.

What do these guys, when they have these leggings, what do they put their wallet and shit? That's a good question, Joe. No fanny pack? They're scared of a fanny pack. They put it up their ass top. Maybe that's the next step. I'm not scared of a fanny pack. I wear a fanny pack to the airport.

I do all the time. I still do. People see me with one. They go, are you serious? I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking serious. Fanny packs are where it's at. If you're not trying to get laid and you're just carrying shit around, what do you care? Why wouldn't you put a fanny pack on?

Yeah. I put the Megans. Exactly. You fancy Megans? No. That's why I draw the line. God, that's what I'm saying. That's why we need to draw the line because that's that's what i'm saying that's what we need to draw the line but if you are uh want to let everybody know that you're gay wear the leggings like it's a good move

i would say if you're a gay guy you know you're letting people know what's up and the fucking ass cheeks nothing wrong with that the ass that's what they like don't you like that girls with yoga pants they like it too your cock's all plaster to the side of your little megging leg. Your megging leg. To like a light blue, like an ocean blue, like something you might see in the bay in Hawaii. I can see that. It's a nice, delicious, light blue meggings with your cock three-quarters hard pinned to the side of your leg. Belly button piercing.

That's what I'm talking about. Belly button piercing. A dude with a belly button piercing. Suspect number one. On a ponytail. Hey, who blew those people? Hmm. Is that a guy with a belly button ring?

Let's talk to him. All right, James Thompson. It's been a fun time, man. I've enjoyed it, man. He's doing a bit surreal. It's been great. It's been fantastic. Best of luck to you, man.

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