The Joe Rogan Experience - #363 - Everlast

Episode Date: June 3, 2013

Everlast is an American singer-songwriter known for hits such as "What It's Like" and "Put Your Lights On" and was a founding member of House of Pain.

Any shows coming up? Yeah, I'm going to be at, not Brea, but what's the other one? Ontario? No, no, Brea. I'm going to be in Brea. Not Brea, but what? Yeah, it's Brea Improv? Is that what you're doing? Yeah, I'm going to be at Brea Improv, and I'm going to Toronto next month, and Comic-Con 2013. All the shit can be found at DeathSquad.tv, or my Twitter is RedBan. Yeah, and all my shit that's

all my upcoming dates are all on Joe Rogan dot net all right that's let's just bail on this Everlast is here god damn it commercial is now officially over guitar solo I seen her at a stoplight now, right-o Sittin' in a pearl white, yeah, right-o In a gangsta lean, she was revvin' the throttle Got a sticker on the bumper, says she like Tejano.

She look like Selena. The truth couldn't be plainer. She like a gangsta boogie. Her poppy calls a cookie. Her friends call her a sad girl. Cause the man went away and he ain't never coming back, girl Cried another tattoo tear I seen her at the market

She was pushing her stroller Smoking on a cigarette Drinking her soda I seen her at the market, she was pushing a stroller. Smoking on a cigarette, drinking a soda. Laughing at a joke that somebody just sold her. Got a baby's name tattooed on the back of her shoulder. She look like an angel, yeah. She talk like the devil. She talked like the devil. She lived like a stranger.

She lived like a rebel. She's a sad girl because a man went away and he ain't never coming back, girl. Pride and all the tattooed tears. Sad girl living on the east side of the city Proud woman, boy, she don't want none of your pity Sad girl got no one to rely on Proud woman don't need your show to cry crowd But she can use a little rent now And a bag of groceries I've seen her at the post office mailing a letter She sent a little money and she made me swear She's talking on her payphone and something upset her

I really want to hold her but I only just met her But I could tell she'd been crying She said she felt like dying She'd never been so alone, no She got naked on a lone horse She's a sad girl Cause a man went away And he never coming back, girl

Crying of the tattooed tear, yeah Sad girl living on the east side of the city Sad to tear you. Sad girl living on the east side of the city. Proud woman, boy, she don't want any old pity, no. Sad girl got no one to rely on. Proud woman don't need your shoulder to rely on. A proud woman don't need your shoulder to cry on. She could use a little rent now in the back of grocery.

She's a sad girl cause the man went away and he ain't never coming back. Powerful Everlast. Dude, so great to have you back, man. That was awesome. Thank you, sir. Mr. Brian Belasco joining me.

Brian, what's up? Hi, how you doing? Gentlemen, what's happening? You know. These are strange times. It's good to have a man like Everlast around. Trying to be, trying to be, trying to make it happen. These are strange times, my friend.

Every day. How you been? Good. Living, loving. Yep. Surrounded by crazy women. That's how life, you know, if you could say that, you've probably had a fun life. I'm surrounded by completely insane women.

The ones that are not crazy are not fun to be around, unfortunately. Just had a new one, you know, got a three-month-old at home. Congratulations, man. Thank you, yeah. Everything's going good, man. You know, I just turned around, blinked my eyes. Has it been a year? It's probably been about a year, yeah.

I think so. Somewhere around then, yeah. Too long. Yeah, this is the. Somewhere around then. Too long. Yeah, this is the first time at this place, too. Made an acoustic record we're going to have, just because of y'all, really. That's ridiculous. When does that come out? Like August sometime.

I don't have the exact date, but y'all will have it. You know what I mean? So you started doing acoustic shows. You know, I would do acoustic stuff, like walk in the radio station, promote your record. Right. You know what I mean? And then came and did your podcast the first time,'t do any music you know i mean people were still super love you know i mean and then that second time when i came and did music the first time i kind of busted the cherry of the joe rogan show in the musical world also uh you did so you

know like the reaction was ridiculous man i mean we've been doing acoustic tours like you know i mean like literally like we toured all of europe in the winter and sold out a lot of shows there's a lot of joe rogan lovers out in europe too man but you know man there's there's something really cool about acoustic music there's something really cool about when you're doing a song and it's just you and your guitar and that's it you know or in in a keyboard backup or whatever when you're right there doing it live and raw like that on a on an internet radio show it's all just broadcast there's no stop there's no let's try this again let's get it from the top when you do it's the real deal and it's just a good the way you it's something about a a singer a real-songwriter and a guitar.

It's one of the purest forms of expression. The way it hits you, the emotional impact of songs. A dude with a guitar with a voice like yours. And a guy who's always writing, man. That's what I dig about you. You're always writing. You've always got new shit. You're always coming in here with new songs.

You're always working, man. You're just always putting in the work when it comes to music. You know, I mean, you make people laugh. You go look for crazy shit. You know what I mean? It's something your soul tells you you got to do. Making money at it is the bonus. But there is the honest side of it that it's like,

if I don't wake up and hustle something out of nothing, out of thin air, you know, then rent might not get paid in six months that's true too and we've all seen people drop off it's scary once you're moving you got to keep moving once you know more money more problems you know you know another thing is i said something i want a whole lot of fucking problems i hear you dude yeah anybody who doesn't want those problems don't be silly they're better than the starving problems right i was telling ariaffir that, you know, we were talking about, like, writing material, and we just, in the middle of the conversation,

I realized, I'm like, you know, if you're an Ari Shaffir fan, you're the only one who could deliver it. Like, it's your responsibility. You have, like, thousands of Ari Shaffir fans, but you're the only one who can deliver you. Like, your particular style of comedy, what you look like, the way you speak, you're the only one. can deliver you like your particular style of comedy you're what you look like the way you speak you're the only one this is it so like for someone who's an Everlast

fan you're the only one there's no other there's no other Everlast out there you are the only guy who can produce Everlast material so that's like a giant responsibility and if you're a fan you want to tap into a dude who's always creating new shit you know that way you know if you're a fan you want to tap into a dude who's always creating new shit you know that way you know if you become a junkie like if you're a leonard skinner junkie fuck man the shit they you know that fucking plane crash was a long ass time ago but if you're an everlast fan you're always bagging out new shit you know you know we working trying to be like you man i don't even know what that means but thanks i'm not even trying to be like you, man. I don't even know what that means, but thanks. I'm not even trying to be like me. I'm just trying to make sense of the whole fucking thing.

Yes, sir. Have you seen the thing that's going down right now in Turkey? Do you know what's happening? Oh, the riots? Yeah, there's a rebellion, massive rebellion in Turkey. I have not read much about it. They're saying it's some sort of like an Occupy style revolt. about it uh this it's they're saying it's some sort of like an occupile style revolt and i saw a photo of uh these people walking down the street and it's insane it's like some end of the world

shit it's like brian see if you could pull up the picture it's crazy this picture these people were walking down uh the street together i mean it was overflowing with people it's like everyone was out there marching in protest it was like a hundred percent of the people in the city and seeing them walking down the street it's fucking craziness man i don't exactly know what the fuck the story is though it's kind of strange to me too it's like i mean i don't know maybe it's just my perception of things but it seems like the the less we are like that like our country that used to be that kind of country whenever people got in the uproar they'd right right and protest and you know that don't happen I mean it happens but

let's keep it real it doesn't happen like using the more the rest of the world takes advantage of their freedom like the last we actually use ours at all well I think we're just so soft it's so say when you buy like you know powdered doughnuts at 3 30 a.m. you know at the Ralph's every other block it's yeah life gets easy. That's not good for you for things to be that easy. That's why an easy job is probably one of the

worst things you should ever... You know, you don't want an easy job. You don't want something that you can just half-brain it. You will slowly rot away while these kids in Turkey are throwing Molotov cocktails at the cops and trying to take over the government. You know, those are... But it's always going to be that, right?

Are we wishing good luck to them or not? I don't know what exactly to go with. I'm going to go with yes, just because I'm a rebel. I'm down with that. Brian, are you a rebel? I'm going to go with yes, awesome. Yeah, we're down with the young kids. You have a bomb on your hat, so...

By the way, being on the airplane with this hat was really uncomfortable. I forgot that I had it on. And it was just like right after the Boston bombings, too. And I was like, why am I wearing this hat? Good taste. Good choice. I know.

Did you have the camo jacket to go with it? No. Like a hunting, like the duck dynasty, like hunting jacket. With an empty scabbard. Yeah, I checked my sword. Jesus. What about those fucking guys that just hacked a dude up in England? That to me was like, what the fuck is wrong with the world, man?

It's really crazy. Have you seen the video of the guy talking to the camera? I didn't hear the talking, but I saw the image, but I didn't hear any of that. I didn't hear the rant or anything. Yeah, I don't know what happened, man, but apparently it was something to do with religion. Yeah, I'm kind of distant from religion. I used to experiment in all kinds of them. I don't reject any.

You were a Muslim for a while. Well, I am. I mean, I don't practice because I just don't believe in organized religion at this point. I do believe in God, and I believe in a single creator and all that. Do you? But there's a lot of stories. I don't believe in magic. Right.

You know what I mean? Well, you know when I think about religion, when I was a young man, I was forced into Catholic school. And I don't believe in killing motherfuckers because my shit is right and yours is wrong. You know what I mean? Right. Unless it's you're breaking into my house trying to steal my shit. Right. Then you're fair game well when i when i was a kid i was forced to go to catholic school and i hated religion for a long time after that i just

thought it was ridiculous the nuns were cunts it was a mess it was just i was horrible were you i got a story too did you go to catholic school yeah so i've for the longest time yeah go ahead i'm sorry so but for the longest time that, I thought that religion was horseshit. I thought there's nothing in this. But then as I got older, I realized that it's just because I had a terrible experience with it. And if you look at a lot of the principles of religion, you've got to decipher the fact that people have been around for so long just telling stories. And by the time it gets written on paper, people try to twist things the way that they would like it to be when it comes to translations and things like that and goes in different languages. But the core of it all is like people trying to figure out how to get along.

To connect. Yeah, people trying to figure out how to express love. People trying to figure out how to treat one as you would like to be treated. You know, like the tenets for life that people figured out before they really knew much of anything about how the world works. They had these ideas and they said they came from God. And whether or not anybody had a one-on-one experience with God, I don't know. I mean, shit, who the fuck knows? Just the fact that the earth exists at all is pretty fucking crazy as far as I'm concerned.

It's nuts. But I mean, I compare it to this. It's like I don't say I know anything about a God. I have a sense that there's a higher power. I have a sense of it. It's empowering to you. I have a sense that there's a higher power. I have a sense of it. You know, I feel like I do. It's empowering to you. I feel like there's something there.

But can I understand it or explain it or define it? Nah, man, because, you know, I always say, you know, somebody once told me that's like your shoe defining you. You know, there's got to be a line between whatever a creator is and what a creation. I don't even assume it human characteristics anymore. Right. I just take it as like, you know, kind of like whatever energy I'm following. I never went to school for music.

I never planned to do any of this shit with my life. And I don't say go around. I'm not preaching or anything. But I'm saying all I did was follow a certain path and energy. And it led me through every religion. It led me through every religion. And by the time I got to Islam, I took it into my life. And it's primarily about peace and love.

And then there's all this other subcultural crazy stuff that goes on in these other places. I approached it from a Western mind and a Western philosophy of like just this is a philosophy to deal with. It's not like my clan didn't get murdered by that guy's imam 14,000 or 1,400 years ago. There's all this sub stuff that goes on between these Sufis and Sunnis. And that's when I was like, you know what? Organized religion as a whole is garbage because the minute there's organization to it, somebody's in charge and then there's power struggle. Yeah. Whenever you put person in power or anything.

It's an individual thing. Religion should be mine. It's not even up for discussion. Unless we're going to sit there and be like, you know, unless there's no, if I sat down with you, I know we could sit down and have a cool conversation. But, you know, there's also 400,000 people that listen to this or millions of people that listen to this. And, you know, you can't have a reasonable argument with every single one of them. Right. to this and and you know you can't have a reasonable argument with every single one of them right well i think that the idea of the organization like when you put something into a giant organization

then you set rules up all of a sudden things get weird you know that's when people get into power and it's the influence gets manipulated and and you know like i tell people all the time you consider me muslim but i'll go out i'll go out tonight with you and we'll drink three whiskeys i don't care will you eat bacon what? What? I'll eat pepperoni, yes. Pepperoni? My wife, the half-Jewish lady, reintroduced pepperonis

into the life. I made a moderation recently to the lyric, was I'll never eat a pig unless a pig is a cop, so it kind of just leaves a little open door. I was in Seattle and some lady came to the show and gave me venison pepperoni that she had made with venison her husband was a deer hunter god damn it was good i there was so much of it i ate it i always see you throwing shit on the grill on instagram and i just haven't got that call ever like

come on have some of this venison steak with the brothers. It's usually me in my underwear at 2 o'clock in the morning just being out there with nature. That's my, you know, that's my thrill time. Get rid of my spare tire, man. You know what I mean? I posted a picture recently, like, of me and Willie Nelson. I was like, man. And I looked at it afterwards, and I was just, man, I look so young and thin.

And, man, I got to drop like 20. I even hashtagged it on there. I got to gotta drop like 20 pounds I meant to ask you this you're you're you have this artificial valve in your heart yeah does that prevent you from doing any kind of exercise well recently Joe my my engineer guy one of my entourage he's like got hard into p90x and and uh and he was doing p90x in the morning and Insanity at night. And that guy right there. Damn. So, like, he got me kind of pumped up.

I started, I went for P90X. It lasted about one day. And then I went to my doctor because it discouraged me. I was like, yo, and he just, I got to find a dude who, like, I'm interested in your guy who's coming in here in a couple days, the fitness dude. I need to find a dude who knows how to build my heart back up to that level of output. Because right now, it's not there. Yeah. And I can't just get on a treadmill.

It's boring. I'd rather play basketball. I need somebody who's going to make it fun, make it interesting, and then also keep me from eating fucking Lorna Dunes at like 2.30. Does the valve function like normal? Perfect, man. According to my doctor, except for like 20, 25 pounds that he don't like, I'm healthy as an ox right now. Oh, okay.

So you could do anything. If I got there. You know what you should do, man? You should take martial arts. Take a martial arts. I was doing jujitsu and stuff, and then it's like I kind of put this weight on. I won't blame my daughters. It's like a lot of her life is us pumping calories into her, like keeping weight on cystic fibrosis.

Youngsters is important for their lung development. So like everything in our house is extra fat. And for a long time, I just and I mean, I won't lie. You go through depressions and, you know, your food is an outlet. You snack a little too much sometimes. But food is yummy. It's delicious. I love the problem.

It's so good. But, you know, so, you know, I just wound up putting on – what was the question there? When I went into my – say I go to my daughter and it's a whole other thing. Yeah, we were just talking about what, you know, martial arts. You said you do jiu-jitsu. Oh, yeah. I was doing jiu-jitsu. Yeah, yeah.

And then after I put this weight on, I went – I tried to go back and it's like with a spare tire trying to do hip, you know, throw your hip. Hip escapes. Yeah, man. You know, I was like now I got to – to do that, I got to drop some pounds to get back just so that. Yeah, man. You know, I was like, now I got to do that. I got to drop some pounds to get back just so I can drop some pounds. You know what you used to do? It's just treat it as like, I mean, you should probably get in shape before you do it, but you could treat it as some sort of a mental exercise. Just put yourself through some torment.

If I make that move I was telling you about, you know, I'll probably, you know, I'll be able to hit the Runyon Canyon run and walks and stuff like that. That's always fun. I like that walk. Getting up to the top is a reward. I actually used to pull up and start at the top and walk down because then you've got to come back up to get your car. Caffeine and Jack Daniels also helps with weight loss. If you throw up a lot.

Cocaine is amazing. Jack Daniels is terrible for weight loss. That's just sugar. Unfortunately, I know that because I drink whiskey. It turns right into sugar. How weird. I'm not. It tastes like shit.

See, I can't get that up. I need a guy who's going to show me how I can work around some of these things. I think that it's all about moderation. I don't think you have to give up the whiskey. I think if you want to stay healthy. Another thing is, yo, I stay steady. I don't pass a certain point. I hit like 260 and

it's like oh that's the that's it that's too big then you get mad and i never i don't go like to like 290 or 300 i did once i think like 290 way back like wow but a lot of it too is like we were talking about thyroid earlier i after my surgery i have to take a thyroid pill to like keep my metabolism just kind of just went right when all the surgery and stuff happened my body just kind of said we're gonna slow life down you know yeah i would imagine that heart surgery so i just need to find out how i could build back i don't even need to do p90x like full blast like that but i you know what i'm saying but p90x is good because it makes you do it yeah if you you're gonna it seems like it's too much then then you know do as much as

you can and then stop but yeah but it makes you do it if you follow it every day i gotta find the dude that's gonna take money to help me i'm sure you can find any guys gonna show up my door and be like yo dude get out of bed pussy oh no you want to you want someone to be your will like that that was someone to be your willpower then we'll you know we'll be fighting and he's probably going to be in much better shape than me, so I'm going to have to break out a bat. And then it's like an assault charge, and I got to buy him a car when I should have just gotten in shape.

Get Richard Simmons, man. Smoke a bunch of weed and have Richard Simmons help you out. That sounds like the best thing ever. You won't feel threatened by him. He'll make your heart grow because he's so heartwarming. I think you just created the greatest reality show ever. Wow. I think that's the greatest reality show ever.

I might even say yeah to that. Fuck yeah. If that's all it was about, was just that, I might even say that. I'm sure that would be, I don't think he would ever bust a move. Come on. Time's gone. Maybe when he was younger, maybe he would have felt it and felt confident and just give you a gentle

pat of the ass. Every Saturday he does a class in LA that you could actually sign up for, so I'm sure he's up felt it and felt confident and just give you a gentle pat of the ass. Every Saturday he does a class in LA that you could actually sign up for. So I'm sure he's up for it. I'll go grab me some dolphin shorts, man. That's right. Get in there, son. Don't be scared to tease. Don't be scared to give him a little tease.

I just like Coke and fucking and sushi and I mean Coca-Cola, by the way. I know. I like steak and cheese subs. Yeah, I I know. I like steak and cheese subs. Yeah, I love steak. Oh, steak and cheese subs are so good. Steak and cheese sub with a good Italian roll. Oh, sweet Jesus. I know it's bad for you.

Where are you getting that from, by the way? Well, all sorts of different places, man. Okay, you're going to have to hook me up with that. You ever go to Cavaretta's? You want to get some serious Italian food that you really should never be eating? Cavaretta's in, I guess it's in Canoga Park. It's an old school Italian deli. Sounds familiar, man.

God damn, dude. They got a sausage and pepper sub. It's, I don't remember. I wish I could remember. I know how to get there, but it's one of those things where you take a left on there and go right on there. Cavarettas. Google it, people.

I'll be there. Does the news of Michael Douglas throat cancer affect your pussy eating at all? It's a little shocking. Yeah. A little shocking. You know, I mean,

you think about it. Is this new news? Because I can swear I heard it a long time ago. Like he first blamed it all on that kind of, or he suspected it. Maybe, maybe,

but I heard about it just yesterday. It was the first time I heard about it. Yeah, I just heard it yesterday. People were talking about it on the internet.

I heard it a while ago on something. Maybe it's just maybe the media is picking up on it the second run around. Maybe he talked about it before, but it's a recent thing because a lot of people think that apparently that it was like cigarettes or alcohol. Yeah, no. He thinks he had HPV in his throat, right? Brian, don't do that.

That's just rude. What was that? Put a Photoshop up of him with his face all photoshopped. Michael Douglas. Oh, see, I don't know why. Pussy words on his face. That's just rude. Is that Ari's butt?

Yes. No? That's the cheek lamp. Yeah, that's... You know, it's kind of fucked up that sex can give you diseases. Like, what a stupid, shitty little fucking trick by nature that sex, eating pussy, can give you some horrible throat cancer. How rude. And what sucks is most chicks, isn't, like, HPV something that most girls have or most guys have?

I think a huge percentage of the population has it, apparently. And they can just recently, they can give you a vaccination for it. But the vaccinations, apparently apparently are a little scary. Aren't they just for the girls, right? Young girls get them. What's the vaccination? There was somewhere where it was controversial. They were trying to make the girls, like somebody was trying to make girls get them or make it mandatory.

Wow, that's crazy. Well, you know, they give you, when inoculations, vaccinations for a kid, one of them they give you is hepatitis B, which is, I think, mostly that's sexually transmittable. Wow. And they're giving it to, like, kids. You know, it's like, how many people get hepatitis B? You know, it's like a lot of them are from sex. You know, like, maybe it's something that the kid needs to worry about eventually. But when it's a baby, are we sure that hepatitis...

I just remember being told when I was young, sex without love was unhealthy. Really? Who told you that? Crazy asshole. Doesn't want to have fun. I can't remember. Some crazy fucker doesn't want to have a good time. I'm pretty sure it was probably my mother.

Oh, silly mom. It can be both. It can be both. Sex with love is best, but sex without love is pretty fucking good. Sex, there's nothing wrong with it, people. Nothing. Everybody needs to relax. I'm just saying to relax the connection

there's a connection there yeah if you know if you love somebody you probably care enough more about them to find out whether or not they have hpv right but but at certain numbers it's like usually the sex without the love is more in a rushed state you know let's just go come on you know i don't care they don't speak english do you remember when everybody was worried about aids yeah i do you know what i was just saying something about it the other day like it's weird like you know it's nobody worries about it i was telling i was telling some oh joe wasn't i just telling you the other day like in the 90s like when that five days when you had to wait even if you knew you were cool uh you you were like that five days you or we had to wait for the test to come back you were

still like what what if oh hold on or this and you know dude that's no joke now it's like not even it's kind of nobody even thinks about it i remember i was in my car and i was driving to the gym and i was listening to the radio and they i remember the fucking the street i was turning on when they said magic johnson just announced that he's HIV positive This is the I was thinking this shit was the zombie apocalypse I was like him going on the radio and saying he's HIV positive. Oh my god magic Johnson one of the greatest basketball players of all time. We're all gonna die I was like he's got AIDS. Holy shit. It's coming man. I would I just anticipated a wave of AIDS It's holy shit.

It's coming, man. I just anticipated a wave of AIDS that never arrived. AIDS, mosquitoes. Strange. Strange, strange, strange. I remember when EZE died of AIDS. And I was like, because that one, nobody even knew about it until he was dead. It's crazy.

Yeah. And these people that are dying of AIDS in Africa, that's a really fascinating thing as well. Because apparently, someone please tweet me and correct me if this is incorrect. But what I was told was that a lot of what they – when they release figures like X amount of people have AIDS, that doesn't mean X amount of people are even HIV positive. That means that they have the symptoms of AIDS. It means their immune system is fucked. So they see these people and whether it's from poor nutrition or a host of various diseases, they don't necessarily test every one of these people because it's expensive to do that. So apparently when you hear X amount of people have AIDS, that's a little on the rough side. It's a little bit of a rough estimate. Well, you know, it's just

people are fucked. It's a shit spot to be. There's a lot wrong with being there. There's a lot of fucking diseases. It's not just HIV. Goddamn being there there's a lot of fucking diseases it's not just you know hiv like goddamn africa's got a host of fucking diseases especially when you're poor and you're not eating anything and then like i remember seeing something on a show once about like there was some certain tribe or area of africa where they believed the cure for aids was to fuck a virgin yes oh. Which is like, wow. How do you even come up with that? Africa still rocks some really crazy ways of life.

It gives you insight into the way the world was just a thousand years ago or two thousand years ago. Like witchcraft is huge in Africa. Witchcraft and burning people because they're witches and accusing people of witches and people doing things to help cure you of demonic possession. There's like a big business in it where they like cure children of demonic possession and they, they, they take them from their parents and they require their parents come up with thousands and thousands of dollars to give to them. So the parents go fucking crazy and do anything they can to get the money to get their children back because this guy's claiming that this child is

possessed by the devil so if he doesn't do this exorcism like they'll kill this kid like this it's a normal common thing in africa yo i think i remember seeing something about it's fucking crazy there's and there's a ton of them and they're all running this racket scaring the fuck out of everybody killing people it's it's a it's a ton of them and they're all running this racket, scaring the fuck out of everybody, killing people. It's a nutty place to live. And it's 2013, man. Just like, you know, we're sitting here chilling in the valley, having ourselves a good old time, drinking coffee, kicking back, playing music. There's a dude out there who's like burning people because he says they're a witch.

You know, that's all going on somewhere. Yeah, that's nutty. It's nutty as fuck. I'm moving there. Don't go to Africa. Don't do it. People tried. There was a bunch of Europeans.

We're going to start a wildlife preserve. Yeesh. I think it's going to preserve itself just fine. I don't know if you really need to preserve it. You need to stop people from killing them. People are always killing them for hard-on pills. You know? It's always Chinese people that think that you can get some rhino horn, grind it up and your dick grows.

Or some tiger penis. Yeah, it's ridiculous. There's some other benefits for rhino horn or other uses that they use, but that's what they're killing these rhinos for. They're like wiping out the rhino population because people in Asia have this thing for rhino horns. It would kind of suck if there was no more rhinos. I mean rhinos are kind of badass. The fact that that thing actually exists. But it's got to be thin at this point though.

It must be very thin. I think some of them are actually extinct now because these dudes just won't stop hunting them. They don't give a fuck. It's just – this is – they live wild. That's a wild place. We're so soft. I'm that same thing. I love gator hunters, man. I love all the shows about gator hunters. You watch that Swamp People? Swamp People, dude. We're so soft. I'm that same thing. I love gator hunters, man.

I love all the shows about gators. You watch that Swamp People? Swamp People, dude. It's the best. It's awesome. I want to go. Yeah. But that's different.

I want to go with some pros. I don't want to go and just try and hunt a gator. I want to go with one of them teams and just even be in the boat. It's got to be an adrenaline rush. Pulling a 12-foot gator on a boat? Fuck yeah. Those dudes got to be strong as fucking oxes, man. That one family, the son and the dad, they're all yoke dudes with that crazy accent.

The dad's got a rat tail. Yeah. That dude's supposedly the world champion arm wrestler in his weight class. I believe it. I bet that guy's strong as fuck. His son supposedly fights a little MMA. Yeah, they're throwing dinosaurs around all day. I mean, they're literally

picking up dinosaurs and shooting them in the head. In the original season of Swan People, there was a dude that would go out and live catch them for like scientists wanted to get them. The medium sized ones, but still, he would grab them out of the water by their necks and he would be like taped up. Wow. Crazy.

Love that shit. How do you get good at that? Those are the people that are going to be around when it all goes bad still. You know that, right? Well, if you want to go to Louisiana, you could be around, too. They're everywhere. Those fucking, you can't kill the alligators enough. Like, you have to really go on an assault.

Those guys are pulling 500 out a season. Each? Yeah, they still got alligators all over the place. Yeah, they're overrun. Crossing highways and shit. They're disgusting. Must be rough having a dog around there. Fuck yeah, it is i when i lived in florida a dog got stolen from some old lady the alligator alligator just oh that's not stolen stole that doggy alligator had every right to that in his mind that's not stolen that's the rules of the world that dog

was slipping not only was the dog slipping it was tied to a chain there was an old lady who can't run the other end of it that's just dinner yeah in florida the one if the alligator recognized that the old lady couldn't run i wonder because it just came out of the water yep i'll take that snack because we she's lucky it took the dog she's very lucky but they're weird they'd very rarely attack people although there was a story recently where a guy was running from the cops it was on in miami and he uh hit the brakes and jumped off an overpass into the water right where an alligator was so literally as he jumped into the water the alligator attacked him and killed him right in front of the cops probably

yeah i mean guy jumps off a fucking bridge and lands on you. The alligator just fucked him up. The cops said it was like a scene in a movie. It's like the guy literally locks up his brakes, jumps into the water, and then it's, ah, alligators are just ripping him apart. But other than that, it's pretty rare that they get people. about they have uh they found nile crocodiles in the everglades now yeah that's scary so they they they issued a kill on site order for these nile crocodiles as far as they know they don't have a breeding population but they've definitely been spotted in the everglades which is fucking real problem assholes florida florida the fucking cock of the country that that place is crazy filled with nutty white people who are on bath salts and they're fucking throwing snakes out their car window while they're driving down the street then they're assholes florida is filled with the the redneckiest redneck assholes on the planet it's a lot of fun down there though it's on another level from the deep south you know it's

like the deep south that's like the mexico of the deep south that's what florida's like the Deep South, that's like the Mexico of the Deep South. That's what Florida's like. Because it's like you go below the Deep – the Deep South is all classy and shit. You can go to Tennessee and be a gentleman, have a bourbon. You know what I'm saying? But you get down to Florida and shit gets crazy. Why? Because it's Mexico of the South. That's what it is.

It's like, man, it's barely America. When you're in Florida, you go do gigs in Miami. Dude, you are barely in America. And I say that in a good way. Like, it is a beautiful energy. Like, they're fun fucking people, man. I think Florida's a blast. It's one of the best places to go if you want to just go and unwind and have a good time. I love watching all those, you know, cocaine cowboys documentaries about how, like, basically Miami is just built.

Yes. Built out of cocaine. Built out of cocaine built out of it for real cocaine and murder that's i mean literally built that's like literally built the city yeah that dude billy corbin i met him in uh in florida he's he's a bad motherfucker those documentaries are goddamn good cocaine cowboys one and two yeah giselda is that what her name was giselda blanco or griselda Giselda Blanco. Giselda. Giselda.

She was scary. Did you ever see the second Cocaine Cowboys where the dude was seducing the grandmother from jail? The dude was banging her and was making it happen. The Oakland guy was running shit on her. Making hundreds of millis, man. It's hilarious. He stroked her.

He got her there to get his little stick wet every time he got to jail. And then how about the fact she got out? That's pre-Viagra, dude. You got to get that dude some salute, man. For him? Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Oh, yeah.

That's a strong move. That's free pills. You couldn't take a pill and just go in. He had to get that shit up for Griselda. Yeah. That is a strong move. Are we sure that it was before there was Viagra? When was Viagra invented?

This was like in the 80s man Was it? Was it the 80s? I'm pretty sure this was in the 80s Early 90s at the most When did they invent Viagra? Brian would know It was November 11, 2015

He's got a shrine at his home in Viagra It was in the afternoon The weather was calm 78 degrees Those commercials are always so lame. It's always like a couple with gray hair and they're holding hands and they look at each other and they come close and they cuddle. It's never a dude with a maniacal look on his face and a boner that's five hours old will not die. And he's sweating and his heart is fucking leaping out of his chest. It's never that.

I'm always curious about the one that says it lasts for three days and you can just like kind of call upon it when you want to. Like a genie. How does that work? Like a genie you keep for three days. I'm on that shit right now and it sucks. It really, the three day thing's not that good. Like it's constant. What do you mean you're on it?

All right, explain to me how that works. You can just summon a do you mean you're on it? Explain to me how that works. You can just summon a boner while you're on it? I noticed the first day, it's just intense. Everything that happens close to your dick, it just makes a boner immediately. Today, it's more like if I start touching it or if Jamie starts kissing it with his pretty lips, then it would definitely shoot right back up. But it's not as sensitive to the point where I'm like walking around like, God damn it. I have a boner right now where the first day is.

Third day, it's just kind of like you have to try a little harder. But when it's ready, it's... Are you taking Viagra or Cialis or which one of them? Well, this was Black Power, which is... Oh, it's probably Cialis. You don't know which it is. It's Cialis, but it's a bigger pill. So it's more Cialis than a normal pill. So it's like five days worth of cialis oh my god why are you taking all that

because i have a i know but but i don't you don't you think it'd be a better idea don't you think it'd be a better idea to take like half a pill have you ever thought about taking half a pill um no because i want as much boner as possible why do you think i'm not doing i'm just worried you're gonna die i worry your heart's gonna fucking give out like i think boner pills at a certain level are unhealthy well i it's weight loss blood belongs other places it's like it's all right to borrow it temporarily but the interest rates get higher the longer you hold on to it's like what tim ferris always borrow it temporarily, but the interest rates get higher the longer you hold on to it. That's what checked in.

Tim Ferriss always says about biological lunch, that there's no biological free lunch. When you take something that has a very positive reaction, it also probably has some side effects that you're not really aware of that are equally powerful. Yeah, ripping pussy apart. Easy over here. You know, another thing it does that really helps is not coming at all. That's like,

you sometimes don't even come and you're just like, all right, I just fucking made that chick have like the best sex in the whole entire world. Do you know how many people across the country

are barfing right now just thinking of you having sex with anyone and you're talking about tearing pussy apart. You're like a 12 year old. I gotta put a quilt down after that.

Did they hurt your brain or was your brain already hurt? Which one is it? What? That's crazy talk. No, it's cool. You should probably have less. I think there's certain dangers with it. But, you know, that's one thing that is weird.

Apparently, it enhances athletic performance. It's banned in the Olympics. Because it recycles your blood. Oh, that's what it performance. It's banned in the Olympics. Because it recycles your blood. Oh, that's what it does. It puts your blood juice over there. Dr. Brian, how would you scientifically describe the effects of CLs? It moves the blood juice down around your face. Yeah, but it apparently enhances endurance.

I like how the pill was called the Black Power. Black Power, it's a white guy fucking a black chick on the cover. That's why I got it, because I was like, damn, he's making that girl happy. He's a skinny white guy. There's dudes that only get black girlfriends. You know those dudes, the white dudes? Jewish guys. Older Jewish guys.

It's a lot. It's a lot. I can never take those things, man. I got, you know, with the hard stuff. But I remember when I got out of the hospital, a really important thing to me was the doctor said, you can't have sex, so you could walk or fly the stairs. Wow. And I would look at the stairs like every day. And be like, all right, I'm going to try it.

And I'd go two, three steps, and I'd come back down. It took me about a week and a half. Now, when they gave you open heart surgery, they have to open up your chest bone. Yes, sir. What is that? How long does it take before that heals up? Do you feel it now? When you touch it, does it bother you?

Sometimes I feel the wire through the skin. Yeah, because they wire it. They shut you know there's a little wire and when i get x-rayed you see like it looks like a little barbed wire thing wrapped around the sternum does that go off when you go through the metal detectors man they'd have they have to have it once or twice in my life since this happened that i believed it that it's that set it off but it's like when they're on super high like if they're set high then i've got i've gone through those you know the full body they never say a word they never ask me about anything oh well i don't even know if they see the full body is a radio wave thing and what it's looking for is external

objects right it's looking for shit that you might have in your pocket like shanks you know sometimes like those wands those make it go off off? If it's set ridiculously high. Wow. I've had guys go like, what is that? And I'd be like, I didn't wear a necklace today. I was like, you must be getting either the wire or my valve. Wow. Right through the skin.

How fucked up is it we have to test people for metal? Make sure they're not bringing anything hard on them. Does it feel foreign? Sometimes does it vibrate during certain things? If you're on a roller coaster, do you feel like a certain foreign object inside of you no no no it's all you know um the crazy part is like acoustics of rooms sometimes if i'm sitting in the right spot it's so loud it's ridiculous yeah yeah like people yeah even i'll be like what the hell you know if i'm in the right spot in the right room it's just like that is why because 90 of the time for me it's white noise you know i just kind of i don't hear that right

anymore unless i want to i can hear it click is life yeah oddly enough is you know it's a clock to me it's like all right that's that's each one of those is the second i was thinking about the other day i was just talking to somebody about like, you know, when you really figure it out, how many days we live? Maybe 35,000, 40,000 days? Is that a lot? 365 days a year. So 10 years would be 3,000. So, you know, 20, 3,000.

If you live 60 years, 70 years, call it 70. 70 times? 365. We're all math retards. It's a lot of time. It's somewhere in that neighborhood, I'm sure. A lot of days. Let's call it 50,000 days your life is.

Does that sound like a lot? It doesn't to me. No. No, it doesn't sound like a lot. I equate it to dollars, man. I could spend that now. I could go out of here right now and spend $50,000. Right. No, it doesn't sound like a lot. I equate it to dollars, man. I could spend that now. I could go out of here right now and spend $50,000. Right.

You know what I mean? I hear you. I wouldn't want to. That would suck. Unless you're a gambling man. You know, or just an ass. Yeah, I think we like to think that this shit's going to last forever, but clearly it's not. Yeah, it's really short, man.

That's the one thing that whole thing really made me realize. When I was laying on the thing going in, I was literally thinking I wasn't coming out of it. I was like, I'm dying. You know, for me, I didn't see visions of flashing before my eyes. It was just the whole thing. I might have even said it on the show before. It was the summation of, like, that's how long it was.

That was a blink of a fucking eye from birth till now. Right. Wow. And that's really my biggest lesson out of it. And now I got a clock ticking. I'm the crocodile from Peter Pan. Well, when you go through anything that really makes you think that it could be over, that makes you reassess the whole picture.

Sometimes we just get real used to everything. You get used to being able to go to the supermarket and get food. You get used to being able to get up in the morning and walk. You know, you get used to all these things. Being alive. Being alive, yeah. Just being conscious. I mean, the world is a strange, strange fucking place, man, which is so used to it that we don't even think about how strange it is.

Yeah, every once in a while I'll sit back and just think about the actual breath I'm going to take. That's crazy. Yeah. What you took in, what your body took out of it, what you're pushing out. That one simple thing is high science. And it's invisible. Completely. You need it and it's invisible.

You don't even know where it is. It'd be in a room and there's none of it in there you walk in there god whoa what what led you to to to the muslim religion as opposed to like christian i lived with a family that um was was muslim they never once talked to me about or anything i found some literature like you know that i read i listened to a tape or two and at my fundamental understanding of it is it's actually all it's all three of the judeo-christian and you know it's that whole it's a summation of all three is it yeah what are they what are the the three judaism christian and islam you know it's it's it goes through all the so-called prophets and all that.

And to be honest, it's like all those, you know, the more, the older I get, the more I see those are stories. I still, like I said, believe in the creator. See, Islam for me just brought me like, oh, this is all connected. And it was like very much about peace in a time in my life when I needed that. And, but like I i said like i'm not part of any mosque i'm not part of any and i don't even i don't even practice like that you know i mean it's it's for me it's like personal again if it wasn't me and you having this discussion it's like man it's not it's not even important right it's my thing whatever yours is yours right because

if i was a real muslim like hardcore everybody are praise odin i'd be all offended you know i mean that's a that would be a like it's just and it's so silly because it's it's like come on that's kind of the point yeah you know what i mean yeah and and i that's when religion for me gets narrow-minded and just i can't i can't follow that path so what you say is that you benefit from it you find it i benefit from the knowledge i've taken from it and i don't i'll never i mean you could say i'm christian and islamic or and muslim because i've practiced both in my life you were talking earlier about uh catholicism i have i was raised like in going to catechism school and all that learning the

lessons and then at 14 i had the uh what they call a confirmation which was you go before the bishop and you basically do this thing and you can it's like you're sort of bar mitzvah of a christian in that that symbolic way we didn't get any checks or big parties um you know it wasn't a big like that it was just kind of you go there and you're a man now and you get the holy spirit is supposed to come down into you and i was buying in at that age you know i mean i bought in i was going to it all and i remember sitting there in the church and the guy anoints you with the thing and you say the words and i'm walking back and i sit down in my pew and i'm like okay it's gonna happen other kids are kind of act act not wasn't like ah

this happened to me but kids were like happy and yay and i just didn't feel a goddamn thing man and for me it wasn't that i thought religion was bullshit like you how you turned it was for me i was like oh man there's something wrong with me for a long time you know i mean and then like i said i found this other thing that kind of was accepted me on my own, on my own terms. Nobody introduced me to Islam personally. Nobody said this is what you should think or believe or here's something for you to read. This stuff fell into my lap. And I was like, like I said, I follow signs.

And so that got me through a very, I believe like that philosophy and the way it took my mind are one of the reasons I'm still alive today. I think there's some great lessons in a lot of organized religions, some great lessons in both the Bible and the Koran and the Torah. There's great lessons in there. The problem is they're old as fuck and they need to be updated. not a bad thing to have something like a bible but it's a bad thing to have some old shit that nobody truly understands and not have some just guidelines of how to live life and be a happy healthy person and don't you know don't necessarily say that they came from anywhere you don't know where the fuck they came from but these are things that people have accumulated and we figured out in time What's up?

I got a song You got a song about this? It's gonna tell you my religion Oh, okay Beautiful, let's do it This is my religion Okay Friday the 13th

It's almost like we set this up Well, that's why I had to grab the guitar Powerful Everlast That's my religion It's called Friday the 13th Powerful Everlast. That's my religion. It's called Friday the the red light shines. Once the junk is fog on the bed. Once the sun rises, run out of surprises. And the drugs, they start to clip your head.

It's hot as an oven. Bush comes shoving. Throw some money on the table. Cover last night's loving. Got the soul of a whore. Got the heart of a lonely man. If I ain't fucking things up, I do the very best that I can. They all got creepy.

Y'all got crazy. We're spouting money and the idolize crazy. Everybody want to go to heaven. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. I got mad distracted. Hold up. What got you distracted? Want me to call you out on it?

Am I taking my head off listening to this? A little phone thing I didn't know if you were on the phone My bad No, you know I let it distract me It's not your fault I'm sorry

I was worried it was an important call No, I don't turn my phone on My wife never calls me during the podcast I don't judge I'm just saying I lost my fucking whole train of thought I fucked up We're gonna do this again from the top Okay Alright I wound up on a whole different song I'm just saying I lost my whole train of thought. We're going to do this again from the top.

Okay. All right. I wound up on a whole different song. Sorry, I got a voicemail. I got nervous. I don't blame you. I live in fear of calls. I'm just like, I couldn't even let go of it in my brain. I had to stop.

Start over. And once the sun rises, run out of surprises and the drugs, it's out to clear your head. As hot as an oven, push, come, or shove, and throw some money on the table, cause the last night's loving. Got the soul of a whore, got the heart of a lonely man. If I need fucking things up, I do the very best that I can. Just like a lamb to the slaughter A horse to the water I only want to drink it if I know I shouldn't ought to

I'm a scared little boy But I'm really one hell of a man And I'm a junkie for the loving touch of a stranger's hand They say everything's love up in the heavens above But here on earth you must atone for your sins

When room for judging once the Lord starts But you won't be anything to once the winds How you play the game, still all the same They say it's only cheating if you get caught So you're lying and you're sinning When a man ain't grinning with that Scared of knowledge you bought You got the mind of a leper And the soul of a tortured king You're lying and you're sinning, running around and grinning with that scared-ass knowledge you bought.

You got the mind of a leper and the soul of a tortured king. And it's all breaking down and that's a truly unfortunate thing. While you're fighting for survival, feeling sacrificial, got a brand new rifle, girl, it's a government issue. Got a heart full of stone, got a knife that's about to take aim and every fucking person up on twitter's gonna sweep my name because they all gone stupid they all got lazy they worship all the money and they idolize the crazy everybody won't go to heaven But everyone's afraid to die And what if God is real But religion's all just one big lie

Yeah, the bar's set lower The temperature's higher Somebody got to spark it And set one big fire Oh, man. That's your religion. That was horrible. big fire. Oh, man. That's your religion. That was horrible. No, that was great.

It was horrible. No, it was a real moment, man. No, I let my mind get away from me on that one. Listen, I shouldn't answer the phone. I was going to be polite and leave the room.

I thought that would be more distracting. Okay. All right, let's do a... All right, we'll do this. Once upon a time, not long ago We'll be right back. Me and you guys, we're gonna make some cash Robbing old folks, then making a dash The diddy child, money came with ease Robbed another and had a disease He robbed another and another, sister and a brother

Tried to rob a man, was DT undercover The cop grabbed his arm, started acne Riding, he said, keep still, boy, there's no need for static Punched him in his belly, gave him a slap Little did he know, little boy was strapped. Pulled out his gun, said, why you hit me? Barrel headed straight for the cop kidney. Cop gets scared,

kid starts to figure. I'll do years if I pull his trigger, so cold dashed, he ran around the block. Got radios in with another lady cop. Ran by a tree, there he saw the sister. Shot for the head, shot back back but he missed her Looked round looking from expectation

He decided he'd head for the subway station But she was coming so he made a left He was running top speed and was out of breath Knocked an old man down, swore he killed him Then made his move to an abandoned building Ran upstairs up to the top floor Opened up the door and guess what I saw? Dave the Dope Fiend

shooting dope. Who don't know the meaning of water nor soap. He said, I need bullets, hurry up, run. The Dope Fiend brought back a spanking shotgun. Went outside, there was cops all over. So we dipped to a car, was a stone over. Raced up the block doing 83.

Crashed into a tree in the university. Escaped alive though the car was a stone no raced up the block doing 83 crashing to a tree in the university escaped alive though the car was shattered rat-a-tat-tatted and all the cops scattered ran out of bullet but it still had static ran to pray to let it pull out he on the mat pointed at a head said the gun for a lady told the cops back off for honey he's dead deep in his heart he knew he was wrong so he let the lady go and he starts to move on siren sounded he seemed astounded before long the little boy got surrounded he dropped his gun so went the glory this is the way i got to end this story he was only 19 in a madman's dream i heard the cop shoot the kid i still hear him scream this ain't funny so don't you dare

laugh just another case about the wrong path straighter now well your soul gets cast good night y'all yeah That was beautiful. That reminded me of the Trayvon Martin case, man. There's a lot of that in there. What's going on with that? Isn't that just in the trial about to start again? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going on with that.

I think it's heated up. It's in the news all the time. It's a fascinating case, man. People are in real trouble for manipulating the news, the way they portrayed it. A lot of people were under the impression that that was like a little kid. He was like really small. Those were like really old pictures of him. He was a much larger kid, and he beat the fuck out of that guy before the guy shot him.

He had blood all over his head. His nose was punched in. There's a lot of weird shit as to whether or not he was a victim or he was an asshole that he shouldn't have been doing in the first place. It's a very racially divisive issue. You know, it's really a fucked up issue. He's alive, though. Yeah, that's true. I mean, yeah, I could take a punch in the nose.

You know, you can apologize for that. You can you can. You know, I mean, well, you know what, man, if he thought that I'm not right or wrong on either side. I'm just saying. Like, one dude's alive, one dude's dead, and one dude was following another dude when he shouldn't have been. Apparently, that's not true. Apparently, that was something that was also reported that wasn't true.

He didn't follow that kid. Apparently, they told him to stop, and he got in his car, and the kid was looking for him. But who the fuck knows? You know, when something like that happens... I never heard that, but I'm paying attention. A bunch of different versions of something.

Got my own world problems. Yeah, none of them are from... But that song reminded me of that a lot. That's an old Slick Rick song. Is it really? Children's Story, yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, that's right.

Once upon a time, not long ago. Oh, yeah. I didn't even recognize it. Moms are stirring and just as the... You know what I mean? Wow, it's so different. I didn't even recognize it. That's crazy.

I need something in my brain to shake off that, because I hate when I screw up. Or just bungle something. Yeah, I know. I can have the best set ever, but I fuck up one joke and that shit will haunt me for days. That's why I had to do another one right away. I was going to sit here looking at you like. No, it was fucking awesome.

Don't worry about it, man. People don't think that it comes out right every time. People know. That's the beauty of what it does. I'm not even worried about the people. Joe Rogan people have been nothing but good to me. I'm just saying me personally. You personally, right.

That's an artist. I'm like, ah! There. Nobody else will understand that except you right now. Other people are like, it's no big deal, man. It's no big deal. It's still all awesome. That's a beautiful song, man.

That religion song is a beautiful song. A lot of people, it's going big deal, man. It's no big deal. It's still all awesome. That's a beautiful song, man. That religion song is a beautiful song. A lot of people, it's going to be their anthem. You know, it's just me saying, like I said, what if God is real and religion's all just a big lie, you know? Well, you know. That's kind of how I look at it. Like, God might be real, man. You know what I mean? I kind of feel like it is, whatever it is.

I think it's beneficial. You're sure not going to be pleased with the motherfuckers Murdering each other over the rules I think it's beneficial There's one rule We all know it right Do unto others That's the rule That's the only rule

I think it's beneficial to be humbled But my religion actually is the last line of that song Somebody needs to spark it That's a real religion Everybody says weed's a real religion. Everybody says weed's not a religion, has never taken a pot, cooked, and gotten on an airplane. That's a real religion.

That's real. It's real. It's humbling. It makes you think about your childhood. It makes you think about love and happiness. It makes you think about honesty and friendship. It makes you think about creativity. That's real, man. That's connecting you with the spirit of nature.

It made you paranoid, yes. It made you feel weird. It made you have all these crazy thoughts. Because it's connecting you to the spirit of nature, the Mother Earth, Gaia, in a little baby dose of a plant love. And that baby dose of plant love just sparks every cannabinoid receptor

in your fucking monkey brain. And you start seeing shit in a way that you're not going to see without the weed. Like it or not. You're a man of your own creation. Absolutely. You have gotten where you got because of hard work and dedication. So true. So true.

But you know what? You will have an experience when that marijuana spirit gets into your bloodstream. It gets in your system. It gives you a little dance. And you can accept the fact that you were tuned in to some other form of intelligence. You can accept the fact that there's something about this thing that's making ideas explode inside your brain

that had never been there before. Or you can just fucking keep drinking coffee, go to work, and just believe in stupid shit. Is this one even working right? Oh, it is. That one just has more. Yeah, you double rock.

Is there a better voice one? The silver one is better? This is my mic. This is what I sing into every night. So it gives you a very specific sound? Well, here's this one. Okay. Here's this one. Oh. Here's this one.

Oh, it's deeper. This is compressed. Oh, okay. Pretty much compressed. It's low compression. It'll make for better audio on the singing. You could call me up and do dirty talk to me, and I wouldn't even know it was you. How are you doing?

Ooh, I'd get scared. That's not what I want to hear. How are you doing? Are you doing kettlebell workouts? I'm doing battle ropes today, brother. Today's battle rope day. What do you got now, man? We'll do another one.

Hopefully I can shake off that bullshit. Oh, you son of a bitch. Still? Still? It's still going? No, it's gone now. I apologize with all my heart. I did not think that that was going to distract you.

Dude, I've done it to every interview ever because I won't turn off my phone, God forbid, in case I need it. And it wasn't a judgment. It was just like, I just could... The chords in my hand started playing another song and then lyrics from another song came. It's like some weird... I've never written anything down. So it's...

If a picture gets cross-referenced, I'm fucked. That is such a fascinating way to do your music. I know Jay-Z does his raps that way, too. I think that's really fascinating. For me, again, I think we discussed it, but if it started as a rap thing, I believe you should have it all right here. I don't need a pen. Well, you probably should.

There's probably some benefit to having it all right there. Be able to pull on it anytime you want instead of relying on pieces of paper. Yeah. And you record it all anyway. Like I said, when I open my eyes and saw something and then your brain, you know, automatically is asking questions. So, you know what I mean? It's not even it's just like it's not even like, fuck, Joe. It's like, what's going on?

Something bad happening. And that's enough that the song's gone. It's like, oh, oh, oh, oh. I think it's cool for people to see that. I should have kept my fucking eyes closed is what I should have did. That's why I close my eyes a lot during performances, because sometimes some motherfucker will turn around and do his Facebook photo shoot,

like selfie with me in the background, in the middle of a concert. Like, fuck, come on. People used to go to concerts to watch concerts. Now they're watching it through their phone for their youtube posts yeah they're looking at their life through a little four inch window instead of living it yeah it's distracting comedy shows you see a lot of that a lot of people holding their phones up you know in one hand it's nice you want to take a picture of me but on the other hand it, it's kind of weird. It's distracting. This one's called Weakness.

I met a fine red-boned mommy She told me her name was Lucille I met her on Fountain Avenue Sitting on the back of a Cadillac Coupe de Ville She said I'm a liar, a thief, I'm a junkie And I used to be a whore And I've been trying to shake this monkey so long I just can't take it no more And she said, I got a weakness, I got a hunger, I got a jones I'm sick and I need to get well I hurt deep in my bones

And I got a weakness I got a fever I got a thirst I'm sitting on the edge of the bubble Just waiting for it to burst We talked all afternoon She made me cry I told some jokes She looked me deep in my eyes

Told me love was nothing but a cruel hoax Her grandma died when she was five And she never did no force Her father fell in a gunfight And her mother found an overdose And she said I got a weakness I got a hunger

I got a jones I'm sick and I need to get well I hurt deep in my bones And I got a weakness I got a fever I got a thirst Sitting on the edge of the bubble Just waiting for it to burst She said, I slept with gangsters, thugs and smugglers

Congressmen and governors I've seen therapists and holy men But this weakness is my only friend It feeds my need, it numbs my soul It starts to creep and take control I sell my flesh, I pierce my skin And tomorrow I'll do it all again Cause I got a weakness, I got hunger

I got Jones I'm I got hunger, I got jones I'm sick and need to get well, I hurt deep in my bones I got a weakness, I got a fever, I got a thirst I'm sitting on the edge of the bubble, just waiting for it to burst. And you paint with a dark brush. You know? Sometimes. Yeah know? Sometimes. Yeah, almost always.

Yeah. I mean, there's happiness in it, but you paint with hope. There's hope. Yeah, there's that hope, a little bit. All the interesting people do, though, unfortunately. I hate giving people the impression that you have to make sad music, though, because, I mean, it's just not what I do. I mean, or happy music.

Right. I mean, I can't write that song i mean jump around you know what i mean right you know that's just a whole different it's a different time too right for you do you hear like that old stuff like the the rap stuff and go like wow that's like a different time yeah i have my voice and i know it's i'm just a baby yeah you know just i haven't even had i didn't even find my voice till like the third house of pain record it's weird isn't it when you look back on all the shit that you've done and then it took me like three albums to find my singing voice you know i mean like whitey ford isn't my finest singing it's good work but it's not my best like thank god nobody talked to you how to put now that record you know when you tell that story

about hey they tried that is so frustrating to me because it's always the case where people just for whatever reason they they don't ever want to accept a dude like you could do more than one different kind of thing you know yeah i hear that man um i just again i follow those signs i just kind of just go by instincts i got i got i got to the point in house of Pain where I felt like I was showing up for the checks. And that made me feel rather whore-like. It must be hard to do things with a bunch of dudes, even if you love them, too. Even if you love them. After a while.

Just writing songs with a bunch of other dudes. Seems like a nightmare. Well, musically, I was doing more than my share of the work. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. But again, it just became not fun that's really what it was it just there came a point where and luckily i'm spoiled rotten enough in my life that if it wasn't fun i wasn't doing it yeah and i didn't care you know and the thing was i wasn't uber rich when i quit house of pain i was i hadn't i had a few bucks but like it was gonna be like what's next like in life what's the next stage i didn't know if i

was going to make another record at all you know friend called to come to new york fuck record deals fuck labels just get in the studio and smoke some dope see what happens he heard me playing guitar in his living room one night and we got to record that and this turns into that and what it's like is this and then you know still i don Still. None of it was mapped out in some superior plan we didn't have. You know, it was all. Right. Going by your instincts. A lot of the best shit that happens is by accident, man.

Of course. Yeah, of course. There's very few songs that are guaranteed to give me goosebumps, but that song that you did with Carlos Santana, Turn Your Lights On. You want it? Fuck yeah. That's one of my all-time favorite songs.

Dude, that song, before you even pick up the guitar, there's something about that song where you know when a dude sings something where there's an authentic pain being expressed. There's an authentic emotion. Every word is qualified, you know what I by an experience and there's a there's something that comes out of that that song everything from carlos santana's motherfucking guitar the 60 years of you know bullshit that guy's gone through in his life 60 plus years to all the shit you were going through when you wrote those those lyrics and the way you were singing them it was that's a that's a fucking crispy song man thank you man that song whoa that's it's crispy like you hear that song

and just whoa you get those goosebumps when i'm meant to be things you know i mean because i definitely i had done that we had discussed this in detail i had finished that or the house or the whitey ford record and got out of surgery and was being leaving a house you got fucked over yeah yeah a lot of things happened at the same time where like accountant fucked me and then the hospital because the accountant fucked me i canceled my insurance because i didn't have insurance i had a hospital bill of like 400 grand yeah and i went from overnight being like like i said i had a few bucks you know i mean i had like cash maybe like half a milli or something you know yeah you don't need people right now when wait a minute this motherfucker was depressed he had I had a few bucks You know what I mean I probably had like cash Maybe like half a milli Or something You know what I mean You know how many people

Right now went Wait a minute This motherfucker was depressed He had half a million dollars No one day Jesus Like the day before Oh the day before

And then the next day Like I owed the government Like fucking After they took all the bread Like I still owed Like the government And hospitals Like half a milli

Oh my god So you went a million dollar swing In like a day In like Let's call it a week Oh my god Which we hear in the news about getting screwed but then i had this song and somebody says santana's looking for a song and

he sent it and we talked about the rest man but it was the first song he cut for that album he called it the centerpiece of his record i'm proud of that i'm proud of that give me a call man i ain't heard from you in like 15 years carlos carlos santana does not listen to this podcast somebody that knows him does he's busy it doesn't matter he's like tagged like 1500 times on twitter by the time everybody listens to that oh carlos santana he wants speaking of this i found a rock on the beach yesterday i was with my kids and we found this rock and had all these holes in it and i said is that like from space like is that an asteroid or a meteorite or something like that? Like what is this?

And so I put on Twitter. I said, does anybody know, any geology people out there know what this is? Joe Perry from Aerosmith is the first person to respond. And he says it's a type of sea rock and the holes come from water erosion. I was like, God damn. The real Joe Perry. and he's the first person the first person that responds on that twitter that's where this game of tag is nuts joe perry's a cool motherfucker i've i've had conversation with him

one of the baddest guitars of all time i mean joe perry's the baddest guitars of all time. I mean, Joe Perry's. The baddest lick of all time. Yeah, there's so many of them, too. Not just that one. I mean, the old school Aerosmith. That's worldwide. That's darkest corner of Africa bar. You put that on somebody and that bar's going to be like Aerosmith. Oh, yeah.

I grew up in Boston, so Aerosmith is royalty. They're Boston royalty. They came from Boston, you know. All that early shit. Walk this way. It was just tremendous, tremendous fuel those guys had behind them. Then eventually it became ballads. But the shocking thing is not that he follows you to me.

It's that he's a goddamn gemologist or whatever the hell he is. Well, I think he's a part of that whole rock for science thing. Is that what it's called? Hold on. Let me find out if that's true. There's something going on. Rock the science. Maybe this will be something we can pull up.

I don't know. There's something going on. Rockets? I don't know. I think there's – I shouldn't have said that because I don't know the information. See if you can Google that, anybody. Brian, see if you can pull up because it's going to take too much look. But I think there's the rock stars of science.

Maybe that's it. Yeah, rock stars of science. And what they're trying to do is get kids to be excited about science. Because so many kids are following Joe Perry. No, kids are following rock stars. So many junior high and elementary school kids. How dare you? There's no kids. How dare you?

No kids are following any rock stars nowadays, right? They're all like, you don't think so? Little Wayne would be on that. You might get them kids. Yeah, Bieber. Little Wayne. Right now, Joe Perry's just got me and you going like, damn. Yeah, it's Joe Perry.

Yeah, there's a bunch of people in here and then a bunch of science people. This is interesting. So it's actually a show. What is that? It's not Gemologist. The Rock Stars of Science. What was Andy Dufresne in that movie? He liked to shape the rocks.

What did they call that? Gemtologist? Gemologist. Is it a gemologist? Was I right? I don't know. It didn't sound right. Gemologist is someone who studies rocks, right?

Just all rocks. Okay. A geologist, though. That's geologists. A gemologist is someone who studies gems. Gems. Yeah. That's a hologram.

Those Jews that are controlling the diamond business. I know there's a name for it. It's that movie, The Shawshank Redemption. It's my favorite movie. And they called him something in that. Diamonds are very pretty. There's no mistaking that. But man, what an amazing job they've done in making diamonds like this valuable commodity.

Storing them in a warehouse and releasing them when you're keeping the prices elevated. That's a meme right there. Diamonds are very pretty. Well, they are, Brian. Okay, that's why people are willing to pay money for them. But it's fascinating. Yeah, that's crazy how they just keep so many off the market. It's brilliant.

The way they've done it is brilliant. Isn't it kind of modeled after the gas industry isn't that kind of just the way i mean that's i take it that's almost the same principle sort of all these countries we have so much in reserve but you know you know i mean it's but gas is necessary diamonds are not necessary that's there you go that's much more gangster to talk people into buying a shiny rock for no fucking reason, it's much more gangster. Not only talk people into it, but it's like you have to buy it for the woman you love. Not only do you have to, but you have to. That's the genius. It's part of society now.

You're expected to buy a diamond ring for an engagement or wedding or whatever. You're expected. That's your dowry. You can't be coming home with no rubies. No, that's your dowry. And it has to be like three months salary. Yeah, what's up with that? It's fucking assholes.

That's an asshole slogan. I'll be honest, though. I wish I had only spent three months salary on my fucking... Damn, where were you then? It's a slogan, man. It's like have it your way at Burger King. They're just selling shitty cheeseburgers. Don't try to make it out to be more than it is.

My wife has an official one, engagement ring. Right. When I flew her to Paris, just kind of like, I decided, it was like,

no, it's time. Paris? Yeah, yeah, I was on tour. Oh, okay. Well, I flew her like, out to Europe,

we hit Amsterdam, a few other places, but my plan was Paris, midnight, Eiffel Tower, movie style. Oh, wow, that's badass.

But like, I knew, I had a jewelry guy here at home i'm sure you know who he is dana put me on to him okay so he was he's like i got you as soon as you get back but i was like i gotta do this so i went to a little london uh jewish store and bought like a you know 500 little sliver diamond right ring and you know my wife treasures that just as much as the other one because that's the one I gave her at the thing. What a sweetie.

I'm like, yo, you would have saved me a lot of bread. Well, I think they like both. This one is special because this one came. Oh, that makes this one special. It's a weird thing that people are willing to spend so much money on some little tiny piece of rock

that doesn't really do anything. That was very strange. It was coal. Yeah, a long time ago. It was pressurized coal. There was a thing in Wired Magazine years back where there was a guy who was using Russian technology and he was creating diamonds, significant ones, like up to two and three carats, I think. And they were also making different color ones, which are really rare, but they were able to make.

I was just going to say, I have an old, like 20- like 20 year old like i have a canary yellow diamond pinky ring yeah it's like it was it's really rare because it's natural but nowadays it's like you can get them like that's why all these guys have like rainbow fluorescent like diamond well that's all fake anyways 90 but here's what's fascinating i have a great idea for a show joe okay it's got to be somebody that can fight though richard simmons i'm serious like yes everything to do with diamonds red carpet fucking somebody on the red carpet at all these events and like all these cats that wear this ridiculous jewelry primarily rappers a diamond tester oh that would be so rude that would be so rude no You'd be blowing people's spots. Got to do it.

It's ridiculous, man. There's guys walking around that got like apartment complexes around their neck if they're real. Yeah. And those dudes, if they're real, I got guys that want to get at them. How rude. That is not very Islam of you, sir. That is not very Islam of you, sir. I know guys that want to know who they are and where they are.

This is what's fucked up about the machine that makes the diamonds. I've talked to several women who have said this exact same thing. They say that those diamonds wouldn't be as valuable to them because they came from a machine, that they want the kind that comes from the ground. Even if it's just perfectly – Exactly. Exactly duplicated. It is a diamond. Like the only way you can tell that this diamond, and this is a fact.

This is not a disputed thing. The only way you can tell is if they tell you. They've taken these diamonds to gemologists, people who work in the diamond trade, the De Beers group, and they've looked at them and they cannot distinguish these from perfect diamonds. They can make a perfect diamond.

It's a real weird thing, but for women... That's why we lie to women. It's a real weird thing but for women that's why we lie to women it's a real weird thing but for women that thing is that the one that's more valuable is the one they want they want the one that costs more it's dowry that's what i'm telling you it's it's they actually want it to be worth more they want some sort of twisted revenge on the fact that original marriage was basically an exchange of property yeah Yeah, a long time ago. Daughter property for wife property. Yeah, the daughter property becomes wife property. What are you giving me?

I think they do it for girls as much as they do it for themselves. I think they do it to show other girls, to have a big-ass bowling ball on their finger. Look what he got me. That's how good my pussy is. Okay, look what he got me. Exactly. They want to let you know they rocked some my pussy is okay look at he got me exactly you know this is they want to let you know they rock some motherfucker brought him in a boulder you know

and it's like this like a little competition like who did better you know well i mean to the same degree as we all want hot wives right you know i mean exactly we all want nice cars you also yeah but you want a nice hot wife in it before she's the wife, of course. And then you buy her like an SUV or something. The cars I like are not, I don't like comfortable cars. I like cars that are stupid. My wife does not like any of my cars. Yeah, my wife doesn't drive my car.

Yeah. My nice, you know, my fun, my toy. Yeah. My toy car. You got that dope Audi spaceship thing. That's one of the most beautiful cars ever created that already are eight so I'm a masterpiece a masterpiece and like if you were a kid like back in the 1980s and shit and you look back at the future like what's a car gonna look like in the 2000s now that that Audi is it man that's a

fucking spaceship a four-wheel drive spaceship with paddle shifters. Yeah, it's fun. It's a dope car, man. You got some stuff here, bro. Yeah. My favorite car, I've got a Porsche GT3. Yeah, I've seen that. GT3 RS.

That's a stupid car. Nobody should be able to buy that. Canyon and stuff. You shouldn't be able to buy something like that and just drive it around. It's a race car. It's ridiculous. But you're so connected. You know what I've really been getting into, man, though, recently what i've really been getting into man though recently i've really been getting into old cars like when i look at like there's something to me like i went for a long time i didn't dig old cars because of my i had a bad experience with a car i

had built at a 1970 barracuda built but there's something about like old cars like if you can get them to run and drive them around they're so so much more satisfying. If you could actually get a 1969 Camaro and drive that motherfucker around, you could actually get it to the point where you could actually drive it, make sure that it stops when you want it to and make sure the blinkers work and all that bullshit. If you could like get it shook down to that point, you're in a, you're in a goddamn time machine. You're driving around in a working piece of art that sounds like fuck like a giant dick roaring as it goes down the street yeah i have one old car i want to build

but i haven't found the right one yet a 59l camino oh yeah i haven't found the right situation i've come across them and people would want too much for them. It being like Iowa. Right. That's a beautiful car. It's another car. It's a goddamn, you're in a different time when you're in that car. It's the first El Camino. Got the skirts on the back wheels. Oh, yeah.

You know, I do it kind of like. 59 is a good year, too. Interesting year. You know, those cars of the early 50s, or the late 50s and the early 60s, some amazing times, man. Like the old Barracuda doesn't have the best shape in the world, but, man, it's got a weird shape representative of a strange time, you know, 1968.

Big-ass, huge fucking muscle cars. Yeah, slide all over the place with shitty steering. Like your car, that car is, like, intimately connected to every move of the steering wheel. Yeah. I remember the day I bought it, I went and picked up my homie, and we were just going around like the residential neighborhood. And I was like, watch this. And I was doing like 50.

And just dead made a right. Like that. And there's a button you press on there like where the shocks fill up with fluid. So you don't get that. Yeah. It's just like wah. It's wah. It's crazy man well it's got an almost perfect 50 50 weight balance because that's a mid-engine car that means the engine is behind you in your seat it's a brilliant piece of engineering man i was told it's the poor man's lamborghini no that's silly it's a better car it's more it's it's better

looking lamborghini looks like you're on Coke. If you're driving around in a Lamborghini. Honestly, between you and me, like I couldn't spend, when I went to buy that car, I went to a spot here in Pasadena where there's a bunch of car dealerships, you know, high end Porsche and all this stuff. And I went there and I went looking for an A8, actually just a sedan because I was a. It's another beautiful car. I had been driving, basically, 7 Series Beamers for years. And I just wanted to switch it up. And I heard that was the same,

or similar in that class. So I went and saw it. And the salesman told me, I told him why I like Beamers and why I've been driving them for so long. And he was like, you don't want this car. What? I was like, that's exactly what I said to him.

I was like, what do you mean? He's like, no, this is just saying, he's like, this is a great fucking car. And then I realized I think he knows who I am. And he's like, well, that's exactly what I said to him. I was like, what do you mean? He's like, no, this is just saying, he's like, this is a great fucking car. And then I realized I think he knows who I am. And he's like, you know, you don't want this car. I was like, and I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the pitch. Right.

Like, okay, what car do I want then? And it doesn't come. And he's like, no, this is just, you know, I was like, well, what are we? I was like, all right, well, cool. I'm going to go next door and look at another car. You know, it was like, there was a Bentley dealership right there. And I went in there and saw that bentley coupe and it was like this thing was 250 000 it's like i'd feel like a jerk off in this car right i mean like driving

it's just i'd feel like an extreme jerk yeah and i went into the jag and the new jag wasn't out yet like i might if that jag would have been out i might have bought i might have got that just because i was like well you know and i was just wanted a car that day, you know, and I didn't, I had a truck. I got a thing. I got to have a car and a truck. You know, that's my thing. You know, there's sometimes more than that, but I got to have a car and a truck.

Right. So first world problems. Yeah. First world problems. Right. So then I, you know, I didn't see that. So I'm walking back to get to my car where I parked. I have to go back through the Audi showroom and then I see the R8 in the corner and it's white and i go in there looking at them and then the guy

the kid comes over and he's like having this is badass i was like that's dope he starts talking to me about it and i'm and i'm like just kind of nonchalantly you know in my brain saying i can't get this fucking car man right i'm not gonna why why are we thinking that just because it was like you know one of them things like that's a you know this it wasn't practical at all there was nothing practical about it there was no back seat for kids there was no there was no i was like one of them things. It wasn't practical at all. There was nothing practical about it. There was no backseat for kids. I was like, nobody's going for this. My accountant's not going to go for this today. They're going to break my balls over it.

But then I'm like, ah, it was white. So I was like, I hate white cars, man. I hate them. And he goes, I got a black on black carbon fiber one in the back. And I don't even think he thought I was looking. He was just like, you want to see it? I was like, sure, I'll come see it. i see it and it's you see my car what time of the day was it when you saw it like four oh that's even more important right up yeah where

the sun is just slowly starting to make its way across the sky fiber was just popping and i was listening and i was like oh my god if you could buy it i'll tell you the car looked like a sneaker to me and i'm a sneaker freak so i was like oh my god that looks. If you could buy it, why wouldn't you buy it? The car looked like a sneaker to me. And I'm a sneaker freak. So I was like, oh, my God, that looks like a sneaker freak. It reminded me of an Air Jordan somehow. That's so hilarious. And then so I'm like, yo, I was like, let me take it for a spin.

And they were like, no, we don't do that. We'll take you for a ride. And he takes me out. What? Yeah, for some reason. This is what they told me. They were like, unless they know that it's basically sold. Unless they're looking at you like, you're buying this car. And I had no inkling yet of buying the car.

What you should do, just sit down in the passenger seat, take a CD out, put in, jump around, and point to it and go, that's me. I didn't have to do that. Just let me drive the fucking car. He pulls out, and we go down, and it's back there by the Rose Bowl where it's all canyon. And we get like three blocks from the dealership. He pulls over, and he gets out, and he's like, get in the dealership he pulls over and he gets out he's like get in drive the motherfucking car smartest thing the kid ever did in his life that is a good move he was I think his bosses didn't know shit about me or anything and I'm

tattooed to the gills like I didn't even have jewels I would look like like I look I get out kind of bummy I like can you say that I didn't even have jewels yeah I know folks walking around with jewels on maybe it's a good sales move by him to pretend they won't let you drive. Either way. And then get outside of town and get, I'm going to get gangster because I know you're a bad motherfucker. Take these keys, man. Right. Or he just didn't tell his bosses, either one of them.

Yeah, maybe they- Go ahead, drive it. Smartest thing he ever did. I pulled it back into the dealership. Oh, really? Buying this right now. This is my car. And then I'm like, right let me let me show

the wifey and i'm sure the wifey is gonna be like oh what are you doing the kids can't sit in that i text her i think i'm gonna buy this car and send the picture of it and i'm waiting and i'm like yeah okay somebody's gonna come talk sense to me right now not to buy this car you know i wasn't sure is this a midlife crisis i was never really a big sports car guy i was a big i like a nice sedan like old man kind of thing. Right. And then my wife sends back the first text. She says, you deserve it, baby.

Oh, that's beautiful. I was like, fuck, dude, I got to buy this car. That's beautiful. You do deserve it. You do deserve it. That's why I wound up with my toy. This has maybe been one of the most heartwarming podcasts we've ever done, Brian. That's because of his heart. Beside your pussy tearing stories.

Besides that, everything else has been wonderfully heartwarming. Well, I was glad to find out how this functioning, you know, you could just call upon that whenever you want. The boner pill works. That was awesome. Having a car like that is like driving a ride. You're in a ride every day. And you don't even have to abuse the law. Like, best people don't understand.

Just turning corners at normal speed. It's like you're so connected to it. It's fun. And you don't even have to be a at normal speed, it's like you're so connected to it. It's fun. And you don't even have to be a nut on the freeway, and you get places a lot quicker because you can just dart in between. The control is so amazing on those cars. You know what I mean? You can do things that I would call other people assholes for. That's a mid-engine, four-wheel drive car.

That's a crazy car, man. That's a brilliant piece of engineering. You put it in that sport mode and put those shock absorbers, fill them up with the fluid, and that car is on rails, man. That's the crazy thing about those old cars, too, is that they do a lot of adjusting for you. If you fuck up, like, there's traction control that comes in and stability control and anti-lock brakes. They do a lot of correcting for you. Like, they make it much more safe to drive them. Those cars are thinking while you're driving.

But the thing that bothers me, though, I love that, but the thing that bothers me is that you miss out on, like, there's, like, a feel when you're driving a steering wheel that doesn't have power steering. And, you know, you're hitting brakes that you feel the brakes lock up, you know. It's like you have more of a connection to a car, those old cars. You know, it's not good. It's terrible if you want to be safe. But as far as thrills. I like driving it and driving it fast because every once in a while even though it's that smooth and cool and everything you're so low you feel every bump

and then also every once in a while you do something wild enough that makes you realize you got to be scared a little bit women women will never understand and dudes who uh have never driven cars like that would never understand either that's one of those things you talk to people and they're like i don't give a fuck about cars man you say that but i don't even understand what you're saying like you either haven't driven one of those fucking things or you don't you can't afford it so you don't even want to fuck with it which i understand they've only ridden in them they've never yeah you know they've never drove a car yeah if somebody just came up to you and said do you want this you'd be like fuck yeah and then you drive in and be like oh man this thing

is awesome you would get it then but that's what you're like, oh, man, this thing is awesome. You would get it then. But that's what happened. First world problems. The guy was like, get in, drive this. He knew. He knew the minute I put my foot on that thing and took a corner, I was going to be like, this car is going home with me. Funny thing is, I remember a guy came up and was like, I want to look at this. I was like, get away from my car.

Like before the paperwork. Oh, that's funny. He's like, get away from my car, man. That's my car. He's sitting in it and farting. I wasn't having none of that. Yeah. It's like, get away from my car, man. That's my car. He's sitting in it and farting. I wasn't having none of that. Yeah. Can't be.

That's an impulse buy that you could pull off. You're goddamn Everlast. But if you're a dude who's living in an apartment and you're driving one of those things, you're an asshole. Yeah, that's not a good look. You got to be real careful about things like that. Because it's just like financing. It just makes it so tempting. It's almost doable.

If I just work a couple extra shifts washing dishes or whatever the fuck I'm going to do and slinging drinks, I can just maybe get that Corvette. I know. It was $150,000, and it was still like, ooh. You know what I mean? It made me go. It's real money. I mean, like a Lambo or something, that's like $250,000, you know what I mean? $300,000.

I think it's a way better looking car. I like the Audi better. I honestly do. Yeah. It's not.. I mean, like, you know, a Lambo or something, that's like $250, you know what I mean? $300. I think it's a way better looking car. I like the Audi better. I honestly do. Yeah. It's not. I would never. Again, the reason I started talking was I would never. I mean, that is about my limit of what I would spend on a car.

It's not understated because it's a pretty audacious car, but it's classy. It's beautiful. It's like it's designed well. I'm Iron Man, dude. Come on. Fuck, that's what I'm talking about, bitch. Shit. I'm driving around. That's the one thing still. Like, that car's like it's designed well. I'm Iron Man, dude. Come on. Fuck, that's what I'm talking about, bitch. Shit. I'm driving around.

That's the one thing still. That car's like three years old now. That's the great thing is the body style ain't going nowhere right now. Yeah. But kids still. Yeah. They just light up when you drive by some kids. They're like, Iron Man car, yeah.

Some people don't get it. It's a thing. First of all, they get upset that you're talking about some shit they can never afford. Sometimes people get upset about that. They believe these two rich dudes are talking about buying 150,000 cars. Are you fucking kidding me? It's the last thing people want to hear. Oh, well.

Oh, well. Hey, I'm 43 fucking years old, man. I've worked 20 fucking years of my life, man. I hear you. I pay mortgages, many of them. I hear you, man. Some of them don hear you some of them don't even belong to family members of mine man i can i can buy myself that's what my wife

taught me that's you deserve that that's beautiful you earned it yeah go get that i'm a self-indulgent motherfucker yeah i believe in nature what we do yeah i believe it's important to be a little self-indulgent to be i was told by a good friend when i first like kind of made it, and I was stressed about this, that, and the other. He was like, every once in a while, go out and buy yourself something. Whether it's a pair of sneakers or something, just go out and you'll feel better. There's a certain amount of management you have to do with your impulses, but I think it's important to be impulsive on a certain level.

It's important to just go with your instincts on shit, whether it's with people or with friendships or with business decisions or with writing material or writing stuff. Before my kids my kids man i would live to the edge joe i'd live to like a penny in the bank and then because the check always comes like it's eventually i won't lie i got a good thing going on man just jump around man that thing don't go away man you know i mean that check like i could live like a pretty i think see i've been here so many times and we talked for so many hours, I don't know what I've said to you or not, but I could be that, what's the dude who got

caught with the hooker in Hollywood, Grant? Hugh Grant? Hugh Grant. He had a character in a movie that lived off the money of his dad's song. Right. And I could be that guy for the rest of my life and not do a fucking thing. Wow. You know what I mean? So I was that guy for the rest of my life and not do a fucking thing. You know what I mean?

So I was that guy until I had kids. Now it's like, oh, shit, I got to put some of this away. But, I mean, I would trick money off, Joe, like money, money, walk into bars, buy a bar. Not the whole bar, but, you know what I mean, buy the bar for the night. Like, how much do you make tonight? Three grand? Everybody's drinking free.

Here's five. You know what I mean? Stupid shit. I remember one night in hollywood when i was really young first came back to la with like a big stack of money in my pocket went to this club and this bartender chick was just ignoring the shit out of me like it was a packed night but i was just like i was like motherfucker this bitch just really ignored me like five times so i pulled out just a stack of hundreds and i started crumbling them up just throwing a matter throwing a matter and like and then she realized there was like 700 on the floor and it came over next thing i know i'm i'm running the bar that's hilarious

though just throwing money at her just as long as the number was high enough pulling it up and she was like hitting her with it like and she accepted that because it was hundred dollar bills you can't do that shit with 20 she got very upset that she was getting something thrown at her and then like she went and picked it up and was like he threw and like it was like fucking this is these are hundred dollar bills this sounds like a movie in the 1980s and you would wind up sleeping with her that night and she would regret it because you were in a band and you were in a bus and you're on the road dude throwing hundreds at her face let's write it yeah dude. Throwing hundreds at her face. Let's ride it. Yeah, I've bought a bar before.

Bought the whole bar a round of drinks. I used to kick everybody out of the comedy store. I'd buy the whole audience a round of drinks. I used to love doing that. Because the comedy store never had any... There's no one watches the crowd. Like, if you go to a legitimate comedy club and people start mouthing off,

the security guy will come over and tell them, look, you're going to have to leave. You're disrupting the performance. The comedy store, there's no security. I used to go there all the time. Yeah, the people that work there. I'd get crazy with it, dog. Of course. On Monday nights, we used to go there and just get nuts.

Yeah, well, what is open mic night? Is it Sunday? No. Sunday and Monday. Sunday and Monday. Yeah. There was a night where you were back. Like, if you went in there, you'd see a bunch of shit comics, but you were guaranteed almost that some large cat would walk in and do something.

It was like Monday. It was like – this was like almost 15 years. Yeah, back in – I think it's still probably like that. Eddie Murphy might pop in and do a set. Last week it was Mike Tyson. It's like every week it's somebody – the week before that was Chappelle. And Mike Tyson is actually doing stand-up there, which is crazy.

Imagine going to the fucking comedy store and you see Mike Tyson do a set. I want to see somebody heckle him. I don't think they're going to. That's what I want to see. Boy, you're taking some real big chances. That's the jackass movie I want to see. Did you see in the jackasses when they let that Butterbean dude punch him?

Yeah. Not still as a nut, man. That guy's bonafide. Did you see in the Jackasses when they let that Butterbean dude punch him? Yeah. Oh. Oh. Not still as a nut, man. That guy's bonafide. That's so. But I would like to talk to him about how badly that fucked him up. Has he never been in it? No, no.

I don't know him. We need to figure out how to get him in here. Yeah. I'd love to. That'd be a good one. I'd be listening to that multiple times. He let Butterbean tee off on him. Like full clip.

Didn't like a bull break his dick? Literally? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was after he was a movie star. Yeah. After he was a movie star, he puts a fucking blindfold on and lets a bull clip his dick literally oh yeah yeah that was after he's a movie star yeah after he's a movie star he puts a fucking blindfold on lets a bull flip where he's in there with a bull and it's the scene's over and he's like is this okay though is this okay he's crazy those guys are ridiculous but that butterbean shit was he just stood in front of butterbean but butterbean just KO'd him yeah there's another one where the uh one of the

party boy guy gets punched by a guy I recognized. An MMA fighter? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that one. He actually tried to have an MMA fight with a real guy from England. And he fought a Thai boxing chick that whipped the shit out of him, too. Oh, yeah. I think Dunn, right?

Dunn fought him, right? Yeah. Is he the guy who died in the car accident? Yeah, unfortunately. Oh, man. Yeah, those guys are nuts, man. Those guys are- They're living on the edge man you know

yeah but letting dudes punch you in the head like that that is no bueno i bet you all them dudes i mean as sad as that ryan dunn thing is i wonder if if if if if like in the scheme of the story of life if that's the better death or if you would have made it to 90 and been boring and decrepit or because they lived that life you know i mean you know. As much as they get paid to do that shit, there was a time when they weren't. I think one of the first things, either Bam, I think it was Knoxville, didn't he shoot himself with a.44 Magnum?

He put a bulletproof vest on and had somebody shoot him. I think nobody would shoot him, so I think he wound up doing it himself. Oh my God, are you serious? I'm pretty sure. And that was for an internet mag when the internet wasn't anything. That's a silly bitch.

So you know those guys live for that charge, that rush. Well, the problem is he killed somebody with him. I always equate him to like, you know, who must be nuts and why I think it should be a more explored topic is rodeo clowns. Those dudes who like fucking get the bulls to chase them. What kind of nut do you have to be to be that guy? That's a hard living, man.

That's a hard way to pay your bills. It can't be about the money. No, it can't be about the money. It's got to be about the money and the thrill. The bull. Unless, I mean, that's what people were saying

about this tornado thing. Sometimes people, they say stupid shit when it comes to uh why do people live in these tornado areas they can't fucking leave they don't have any money you know people are born in really poor and they were to live there yeah they barely get by yeah and for the most part everyone they know is there like it ain't that easy to just move but but it costs fucking money man and a lot of people once you get a job when the big one hits here and it's like well how could you live there knowing that was going to eventually come but my point is once you got a job as a rodeo clown that's how you pay your fucking bills that's how you pay your fucking bills man it's hard to jump off that rodeo clown thing where you're getting you know 1500 a week or whatever the fuck those guys are

getting and then try to get a job where you get $400 a week. And you miss that other $900. Absolutely. And you're, you know. By the way, the GT3 is what Dunn killed himself in. Yeah. So, yeah, he went around a turn and, like, missed an exit and went straight into the woods. Yeah, he was going ridiculously fast, drunk.

Yeah, that's the part. It's amazing. I would never. That's my one.'s my hey give me give me a cab yeah i got it i got a couple hundred bucks when you live i'm going all the way across town there was no caps he was out in the woods yeah he was out in the woods of pennsylvania crazy fucks if you uh really think about it's amazing there's not more crashes because there's alcohols everywhere and people are driving everywhere it's amazing something. I remember something like on Real Sports or something like that

where they went and really filmed and checked out a football game and how fucked up they are before and after and that the cops don't really do much. They just let all these people, like thousands of people, leave those football games inebriated driving their cars. That's a great point. I never even thought about that because how many, what is it, 50,000? What is a football stadium?

It's 50 to 70,000. Jesus. Or concerts. So 70,000 people. Let's say 1% of them are drunk. Yeah. My God. Yeah, or concerts.

And those people usually have drugs on top of that. Yeah. Like acid. But football in particular. We didn't say baseball. You go to the Dodger Stadium, there's not people fucking in the parking lot fucking raging. Right. Barbecuing and having four cases of beer sitting outside their rv yeah you know i mean

football it's like a fucking hold they get there in the morning they barbecue and get their fucking shit face before the first quarter even starts how much of football is gambling a lot right a lot a lot a lot of white people love it this is gambling got it what it like when people in the midwest is there like bookies all over the place? Is that what it is? Like secret bookies? I couldn't tell you, but there must be. There's bookies.

I can give you five bookies right now. How dare you? All right. This is a respectable program, sir. All right. Those bookies need to pay their taxes. That's what I say. My bookies do pay their taxes.

How do you- From St. Bart's. Oh. Or something like that. Right. That's a lot of those dudes that were, you know, they're just starting to allow poker again in the United States, internet poker. They're doing it in Nevada.

And the way it works is you have to be in Nevada when you get online. You have to do it and actually gamble from Nevada. But as long as you do it from Nevada, it's legal, which is a strange thing. But you can play ultimate poker. So none of these poker, hundreds of poker sites I hear about, they're just free sites then? Well, they're either free sites or they're illegal sites. And they were fine for a while. Well, I mean, how could you be illegal and be like, you know, I'm talking about ones I would have heard of are all over the television and stuff like that.

Yeah, those are the free ones. But some of those guys got in trouble for doing illegal shit too. There was some famous ones that got in trouble. But the majority of the people who were involved in it when it was making billions of dollars they had to flee and they all had to go to like the canary islands and shit the caymans yeah the you know uh what's that one not belize but uh costa rica costa rica is a lot of them in costa rica too and these poor guys they're i mean they're essentially they got they they took their business away with law people were spending money and people were gambling and doing what they want to do with their money.

And these guys were collecting millions. They were making millions a day. And then all of a sudden, they came around with a new law that said, you know what, bitches? We're not happy with you guys getting rich that easy. So, you know, you've leeched the profits. They essentially stopped progress. They stopped the ability to gamble on the internet, even though it's sort of a weird form of progress. It's still progress in a freedom sense.

It allows you to do with your money things that were unavailable before. True. Whether or not you want gambling to be legal, I want you to be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do. I don't want to have any control over your life because I don't want you to have any control over mine. So as soon as we allow people to come in and say, you can't gamble on the internet, like, why are you fucking talking about? Like, why would you tell me what I can do with my 20 bucks? Why do you give a fuck? Why is this even a conversation?

If you need to get some taxes out of them. Well, it's not sanctioned gambling like the lottery. It should be sanctioned. It should be sanctioned. It should all be taxable. But that's the point. It's like they need to, that's what they're doing now. They're opening it up.

I'm sure they're getting their rake of that. Yeah, and I'm sure the local casinos probably weren't very happy with it either. The card casinos that were making a lot of money having people come in and play poker, all of a sudden you can be naked playing poker at home? Yeah, there's a couple right down here in Bell Gardens and a few places down the side. Yeah, so I'm sure those people must have lost money. There has to be some reasons why they would limit your freedom to gamble. But ultimately, it's just freedom. The crazy thing to me is the explosion of poker in the last like let's say eight to ten years it's tv yeah tv wrote

people in the camera thing yep and amazing it's bizarre like it just makes me crazy and it's also tv combined with the the merit that's the new american dream that quick easy yeah not only buck but you're super famous and you win the world series of poker but you're super famous. And you win the World Series of Poker, and you're the fucking man. Mike Goldberg just interviewed some dude on the last UFC, and he won $18 million in a poker tournament. Jesus. And you're fighting? $18 million. What are you doing fighting?

Nobody makes that much money in a fight. I mean, maybe Floyd Mayweather does, but that's about it as far as, like, human beings. That is an insane amount of money, $18 million in a fight. I mean, maybe Floyd Mayweather does, but that's about it as far as human beings. That is an insane amount of money. $18 million in a fucking poker tournament. They make real money because people love it. If you get enough people that love it and they're willing to throw their chips in. I mean, how many people had to be in that for you to win? I mean, that's a 10,000-people tournament or something.

I think it's an expensive buy-in, too, because those guys are worth so much money. They'll do buy-ins. That big World Series one, the big one in Vegas, they get up to 8,000 people now starting those things. We should have Bruce Buffer come on and explain that shit to us. $10,000 buy-in. I've been meaning to get Bruce Buffer on here anyway. We'll have him come in here and explain that shit to us because Bruce Buffer is a serious poker player. Is that right?

Yeah, he's legit. He goes to the World Series of Poker. He makes it to the final table. He's legit. Bruce Buffer's won tournaments and shit. He wins. Okay. You know, poker's a tricky game, man.

Ari Shafir, he used to make a living doing poker. When everything sucked for him as a comedian. I think I remember seeing him on a few shows. Dude, Ari Shafir, when things were sucking for him as a comedian, he was making $30,000 a year playing poker. Just going to the local casinos, winning tournaments, because he's smart. Because he's a smart dude, and he can calculate shit. He knowsinos, win in tournaments, because he's smart. Because he's a smart dude and he can calculate shit. He knows how to play the game and he's

disciplined. And he would just make cash. And you've got to be able to keep your face stoned to a certain degree. That's a big deal. Yeah, there's something in not giving it up. Avoid any kind of psychological giveaway. That's what I like

watching, how that stuff works. Yeah, I wonder if you get to math all the time you can you can figure out the math is finite most people can learn that there's that that's where the talent really comes in is that whole psychological side i mean knowing math is talented but you know what i'm getting at it's the more artistic part of it and when if you play it all the time if you get really good at just smelling bullshit you know i mean it's like you get good at everything like you get you would think yeah you get i mean people get better at all the subtle nuances of anything they attempt whether it's stand-up comedy or playing music or anything i would imagine that you if you interact with people playing a card game for

high stakes for a long period of time you'd probably smell some shit on people when they're full of shit just smell of something little intangible green light. Or not. Or just kid yourself and blow your fat water cash. You would think that, I mean, you would naturally just get a sense of,

like that movie, True Romance, where Christopher Walken's talking about the tails of a lot of, there's 19 tails. You would think you would at least have more

of a know-what-a-crinkled brow or like when, you know, because there's people that say psychologically, like if you're lying, you look a certain way or if you're trying to recall something you look a different way like your brain the way your brain works like yeah you can figure out some of that stuff legitimately and when people know that i don't trust them from then on all right

you know the moves you know it's left or right you know yeah you cheat motherfucker looking up to your left when you know you should be looking down to your right, whichever one that one is. It only works if you're amongst unsuspecting people and nobody can have knowledge that you have that. You know, I think people are – everybody is scared of losing privacy and I agree. It shouldn't – someone shouldn't be able to access your privacy random. Someone shouldn't be able to access your email or see what's in your computer. But I do believe that eventually it's going to be a good thing for the world to have no privacy it sounds stupid but i think that a lot of the problems that we have is that you can get away with shit a lot of the problems that we

have with as far as like committing crimes doing bad deeds to people is that people can't literally read each other's minds i think that's ultimately where we're going i think we're going to be there's going to be no lying anymore i think there we're going to be able to read. There's also on the other side of it too, I think a lot of people's emotional and problem stuff is not realizing that everybody's exactly like you. You think your thing or whatever's wrong with you or whatever you think or that crazy, whatever thing that happens to you is only happening to you and you're embarrassed. There's a lot of things like that that people don't realize every single body has experienced on some level.

Yeah. Insecurity. You're talking about a one consciousness almost. A single consciousness. Except for the crazy people. That's a problem. Well, you can eliminate them easier. You got to find them and kill them.

But who's willing to make that call? You can nullify them. Nullify them? Pen them up. Box them up. But then they get out and it becomes a goddamn Stephen King movie. Yeah. Well, it's going somewhere someday. But then they get out and it becomes a goddamn Stephen King movie. Yeah. Well, it's going somewhere someday.

Is it? Something's going to happen. What do you – if you look at – I mean you're a thoughtful guy. When you look at society and you look at shit like what's going down in Turkey and the clampdown on the internet where the government is worried about people being able to rise and the Second Amendment debates and all the shit that's going on. How do you how do you see this this this fucking thing turning out when you look at our world i don't think a lot of it matters man you don't think so you know we're i just think eventually you know i mean like the lights are going to go out and for you for everybody for everybody i'm talking about

literally like not our lives i'm talking about sooner or later a lot of this is gonna go wrong we're gonna use i don't know how much fuel i mean i'm not an expert but fuels gotta be the fuels that we use so rapidly right now can't be infinite when here's something interesting i talked to a weather scientist and uh he told me that even if we chop down every tree in the world we'd still have a couple million years of air do you know that there's like everybody's worried about, like, losing all the air. What are we going to do? It's like the world is... But quality, too.

You know what I mean? True. But the world is far more durable than we pretend it is. I'm not talking about the world or the planet. I'm talking about our creations within it. You know what I mean? And our use of, like, you know, I mean, I don't... Again, I just said, I'm no expert,

but, like, fossil fuels cannot be infinite. No, can't. You know what I mean? So eventually, you said, I'm no expert, but like fossil fuels cannot be infinite. No, can't. You know what I mean? So eventually, you know what I mean, the lights are going to go out and we're all going to be swamp people, man. That's funny because I don't think so. I think that I would have never figured out how to make. You want to know honestly? That's what I hope.

I would have never figured out how to make a regular engine and I'm never going to figure out how to make a fucking electric engine either. No, I can shoot my gun and I can reload bullets. For sure. For sure there's some people way smarter than me that are looking at all these problems and the same sort of genius that allowed people to get to the point where we have flying metal tubes that take you from New York to Paris in five hours. You're going to have the same kind of shit with everything. People are going to eventually innovate past where we're at. I have a full belief in that. But the lights are going to go out one day.

I don't think so. I think it's going to change, but I don't think the lights are going to go out. They might go out for a little while and then come back on. I mean, at any point in time, there could be a series of colossal disasters, natural disasters. And we just look at the history of the world that we know about. For sure, there's been some, at least I think there's four or five extinction events that have been marked throughout history that we know of right now. And pretending we know everything that happened over the 4 point whatever billion years of the Earth's time, at this point, there's a lot of shit they don't know. There's 12,000 years ago. Are we getting into ancient aliens again?

No. Are we getting into the fact that people have been lucky that we made it to this point? But we could go just like the dinosaur went. It's really easy. That's my point. Fuck yeah. But that doesn't. Will another society eventually rise up?

Yeah, okay, okay, whatever. But as far as I'm concerned, my daily problems, I don't. The government and the clampdown on the internet. Fuck the internet. I honestly told. I've said many, many times. If I could get rid of one thing. I think for every great thing the internet i honestly told i've said many many times if i could get rid of one thing like i think for every great thing the internet's done there's a thousand slimy scummy fucking awful

rotten things about it wow that's interesting i look at it completely opposite i think for everyone well i mean it changed my whole you know i mean it changed the trajectory of my whole business that you know i depended on too you know i mean i think oh okay it took the carpet enabled thievery on levels that you know i never would have imagined in like 1995 thievery meaning people illegally downloaded songs yeah not only that okay and then let's just go with the you know just small things like you know back you know maybe in the 90s if there was a guy who liked fucking pigs you know i mean he'd be a lone fucking wolf somewhere that you know would never really act on or anything there's probably, you could probably find a website dedicated to that. Yeah, pigfucker.com.

Where these people gather. Oh, most certainly. These people gather and they fuck pigs. That's bad? That's bad for society. Yeah. Why is it okay to eat pigs but it's not okay to fuck them? That's what I want to know.

I mean, I feel like that doesn't make any sense. I love you, dude. The podcast might be over after this. I don't know if I have any response to that. Legitimately, I don't feel like that makes any sense. I feel like if you will. Okay, why can't we fuck people and eating them is wrong? Well, it's not wrong if you're trapped like your car crashed in the Andes Mountains.

Slaughtering a person and just eating a person. Well, people have done it. I mean, the whole Bonner Party, those people that got stuck in the Rock person well people have done it i mean the whole bonner party those people got stuck in the the rockies people done it but and it's a notoriously fucking yeah like bad story like it's not cool they're except yeah it's not like things you should do on a regular basis yeah but i mean same fucking pigs let's just apply the same let's apply the same logic how about you're stuck on an island and there's no people to fuck but you got a pig and they come back after all these years and hey man what, hey, man, what were you doing? Like, well, I raised pigs and I killed them for food.

Oh, okay, cool. What would you do for sex? You just beat off a lot? No, I just fuck my pigs. They'd be like, whoa, uncool. Yeah, uncool. Not cool. You did something.

You should have just kept that to yourself, man. That's really what it is. Would it be worse if he made love to the pig i don't think either one is bad i think honestly if you're gonna kill an animal fucking it as long as you don't like fuck it to death that's like kind of a crazy way to kill something and would you go anal with the pig or vagina you'd have to see the setup you have to see what you're dealing with you know condom no condom there's a lot of questions internal organ wise pigs are supposed to be very similar to us.

So yeah, you don't, you definitely don't want to go anal without a little cleanup first. I mean, you get some pig shit through the tip of your dick for sure. That could be a problem. Well, I'm not sure if I'm just correct, but isn't there like a pig's excrement? His entire excretory system is basically expelling waste. Like the sweat to a certain degree is... Oh, really? Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah. Pigs are disgusting. They're strange animals, man. They're smart as fuck, though. That's one thing that's weird about killing pigs. They're smart, man. They're smarter than dogs. They know what's going on.

Well, you know, the whole animal farm thing, man. Well, have you ever seen that? I still love that book, by the way. I can make a pig squirt. You ever see that documentary uh my brother's keeper it's a documentary about these dudes who were like uh they were like a little slow and they lived on a farm and one of them i think was accused of murder and it was like real weird whether or not they could uh defend themselves in court whether

they could you know they were a little mentally challenged but they uh were running this farm and there's a scene in the farm where he has to kill a pig, and he pulls out the shotgun, and the pig goes, fuck, and the pig just scrambles left and right. That pig knows exactly what the fuck is going on. The pig saw the shotgun, and I saw that, and that kept me from eating bacon or any pig for like at least two days. It was like a month.

It was a solid month. For a month, I was like, oh, man, I think I'm not going to need anything that's smart. Kind of. They're delicious. But then I found out what cunts pigs are. You fall into, if you like feeding pigs and you fall in there, they'll eat you. That's like the number one way that farmers die. It was like one of those Dr. Baden autopsy things where they did this whole thing on this lady that had a pig farm and just murder husbands and throw their bodies in the pit.

That was a great show. Yeah. That guy was the best, that Dr. Badden. Yeah, I used to love him. The HBO Autopsy show. Boy, that challenged your view of the world before the internet. Before the internet, that was the first freakout show where you realize how crazy people are. One dude, he took a woman and she died.

She was like a very beautiful woman and she died. The doll. Yeah, he made a doll out of her and put a little rubber hole down where her vagina was so he could fuck her. Covered with cases and cases of perfume because she was rotting. And he would fix parts of her with wax. Yeah, and wasn't he like a doctor or some shit? Yeah, he was like a doctor, I remember. Oh, he was so in love with her that he took her body.

It was his wife, wasn't it? I don't remember. I think she died young. It was either his wife or it might have been his ex-wife. I don't remember what it was, but he took her. It might have been just a patient,

but he took her and he was just fucking her. He kept her in his room for years. A rotting body. You need to know that, man. We need to know that dude's out there. Yeah. It's important

because you could have a really distorted view of the world. We'll know where all those dudes are when that single consciousness comes around it's coming we'll all be like ew well don't you think that guy don't you think with what you're talking about with like you know people realizing that you know one consciousness realizing that doing to others as you would have them do to you you You lead a healthy, happy life. And we're all like calming down and connecting in this thing. It's all building toward this crescendo. And if it reaches that one state where all of a sudden whether it's a technology or whether it's just the human body evolving to a next level.

I mean maybe that's a few generations away. I mean who the fuck knows. But that's what I feel like the one thing that's going to stop all the bullshit is when everybody knows the big brain stage you think we're going to get to that i think we're going to get to a connectivity very similar to the internet but it's going to be in your own brain that's what i think i think the the connectivity of the internet gives you through social media i think it's almost like sticking your finger through like you know you can't get to the outside but you can like poke your finger through this like gelatinous sort of shield that separates the two worlds you can't quite break through but it's close so the internet is like you're exchanging information it's free the hole

cut into the yeah the girl right there in the same similar we're using computers in order you know we're sending like ones and zeros to each other and we're connecting but we're doing all this through this artificial shit i think eventually this artificial shit this is just a bridge to some sort of technological freedom this is a bridge towards some next step whether it's saying something will be implanted could be it could be that you know that's game for this i'm going to this i'm going now you don't have to you just die off like the fucking you know like all the other nothing wrong with that man there's a romantic thing to that that go out johnny cash style all old singing hurt you know love it fuck yeah there's nothing wrong with that i mean we all go to sleep no i just i just know the fucking history of corporations in the world and shit and i'm not letting anybody

put that in my fucking that's the question though what what does that eliminate all the bullshit that corporations do when when everyone's the question, though. Does that eliminate all the bullshit that corporations do? When everyone's accountable for their own actions, is that the thing... Well, who's going to manufacture the thing that goes in your brain? Well, I mean,

maybe it's inevitable progress. Maybe it's the inevitable progression of where technology's headed. I hope so, Joe. You have such a great outlook, man. I do, occasionally. I'm way too suspicious of people. I know the true nature

of a lot of motherfucking people. That's true. But don't you know great people as well? Just the fact that those beautiful people exist. I know enough beautiful people, beautiful personalities, friendly, healthy, happy people. I know enough of them now to be convinced that it's not like an aberration. There's a whole population of like-minded, happy people out there. The problem is they're separated from each other.

That's not necessarily true. Even the evil people themselves are surrounded by other evil people. That's a big issue with evil people. You're growing up around evil people. You respond to your environment. You imitate your atmosphere. You're a cunt. And sometimes it's not even your own fault.

You're just stuck in a shit spot with a douchebag dad and a mother who's a fucking cocaine addict or whatever. Fill in the blank with your own troubles and dilemmas. But I think that ultimately there's so many cool people and so many nice people and people that want other people to be happy that I just feel like that's the trend. I'm going to live in that world then. That's – it's the world we should all live in. It's not impossible. That's – the fact that there's so many of them means it's not impossible.

It's just – At what point do I have to give up my guns? You don't have to give up shit. Why – I don't – that's – I that there's so many of them means it's not impossible it's just at what point do i have to give up my guns you don't have to give up shit why i don't that's i'm not giving up i don't think you should give up guns i think it's ridiculous i don't think you should give up your car either i don't think you should give up your ability to buy lighter fluid i don't think you should give up your ability to to buy a fucking helicopter i don't think you should limit your ability to do anything i think freedom is the most important thing. And then be responsible for your actions. But stop people from doing cunty shit by making them aware of one consciousness, making them aware that we all are experiencing this together.

And if you fuck with people, if you send out some bad shit, that bad shit comes back to you, too. It's possible. I met so many nice people. I totally believe that. I meant so many nice people. I totally believe that. It needs to be – like when you were talking about Islam and about the messages of Islam, they rang true in your mind and they made sense to you and you felt like it was this conglomeration of wisdom, so to say, right? Yeah, a lot of it still does. Yeah, and it still – and it should.

I think that we're just missing a new version of that. That's all it is. It's not that people – I could of that. That's all it is. It's not that people – I can feel that. And I think that with technology at the helm, I think it's possible for that to influence it as well. I think the connectivity that we all share and the inevitable ability to exchange information like freely without a computer, without anything, just connect to people freely. We could have never pictured this. No one in George Washington's time saw a laptop coming.

There's no way. And I think that we have no fucking idea what's waiting around the corner in 100 years. I don't think we can. But I think if you look at where it's going, it's going towards just a full separation. I speculate closer to 20 and 30 years. You think so? No, I don't think what you're saying is going to happen in there. And I'm saying that's my – I don't speculate out farther than that because I don't think what you're saying is going to happen in there. And I'm saying that's my,

I don't speculate out farther than that because I don't expect to live longer than that. You know, there's part of me that thinks it's fascinating that like,

what if society got like just close to enlightenment? Just close, like almost there. Like breakthrough technology, walls dissolving every second and then an asteroid. Boom.

Boom. See, that's my... And we have to start all over again that's exactly you brought me right back to the lights going out well you paint with a dark brush my brother that's where i paint with a dark broad that's why i love you but i like your world yeah well my world is your world we we exist in the same space well i like the window you're looking through your world i need to get me one. I think doing this podcast has helped shape that window. You know, that window, those ideas I've always sort of had somewhere in the back of my mind

and then slowly reinforced by other people that I met that shared or an even more evolved version of that idea. But doing this podcast, we're running into so many nice people, so many cool people, so many people that are just genuinely happy. And if you were my neighbor, that would be a beautiful thing. If you were my neighbor and he was one of my other neighbors, I would want him two houses down. So that motherfucker's a screamer. But you know what I'm saying. To have a real community like that, if you really look at it, if everybody was your favorite people, boy, the world would be be fucking amazing the world would just be a bunch of people being friendly with each other you know

exchanging things doing work doing whatever the fuck you have to do you pay me for this and i do that for you but if everybody was if that there's got to be a way where at least on a mass scale that that can be the majority of people i i don't see that that's not possible. I don't think it's inhibited by finances. I don't think it's inhibited by resources. I think it's inhibited by people understanding that they can live a different kind of life. And I think that's where something like a guy like you talking out about it and a guy like you expressing your ideas, like some kid right now is a big Everlast fan is in his car and he's, you know, listening to this and he's hearing your take on things.

And maybe he'll pick up a book on religion. Maybe he'll pick up a book on philosophy. Maybe he'll stop one pattern of thinking and introduce himself to a couple other patterns and those in turn will shape the future of his thinking. Well, don't be like me. Don't bullshit. But if you weren't you, you wouldn't be making this beautiful, dark music, man. There's something I love about that, man. What was the song that you played the last time you were here?

How many different songs did you play? The American Girl? Miss America? Miss America, is that it? Little Miss America. God damn, son. I can't think like that. I'll start crying.

I could never write something like that. I would just start crying. But I love hearing it. That's kind of where I take it a lot is what makes me, when I'm writing it, after it's written and I can perform it, I don't get as emotional. But that's what I try and do. I try and make myself upset a little bit, feel something because i'm i'm hard honestly i'm like i'm hard to get to you know react you're a big teddy bear probably truth but it's hard to get past the the the fur well you just

dealt with a lot of douchebags it's normal it's normal and the skin's toughened up you know surgeries and life. You're about to sing right there. The skin's toughened up and surgeries and life. You can go right into it. I'm going to sample it. Yeah, you know, but ultimately, you're a nice guy. I like to think so.

You're always a nice guy. You're fun. You're fun to be around, man. I'll let you in if you use your blinker. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. But you've also dealt with a lot of douchebags.

Well, we live in douchebag central, and we work amongst douchebag fucking, you know, in the douchebaggiest industry there is, you know. People will never understand how douchey it can possibly be. And especially the music business, I think, is probably the doucheiest. Had all the potential running into dickheads, running into musicians. Like, you got a lot of brilliant, beautiful people out there,

but goddamn. Acting's way worse than musicians and douchebags. Yeah, because even a shitty musician is actually probably somewhat decent as shitty actors. It's fucking gross. Yeah, that's a good point. Because most actors are gross to begin with,

and you have a shitty one on top of that. I would say they're pretty close. I've met a lot of douchey musicians. But yeah, I think ultimately you're probably right. I think musicians requires more discipline too.

You know? You have to actually, especially if you play an instrument, you have to actually learn a discipline. Gotta practice. Yeah, that's a big thing.

Actors don't have to practice shit. Investment in time. Acting is easy as fuck too. And they like to pretend it's really difficult. It's easy as fuck. Actors don't have to practice shit. Investment in time. Acting is easy as fuck, too. And they like to pretend it's really difficult. It's easy as fuck. Well, I think there's a level of it that's hard. Right.

I mean, but I think in general, most things done in the acting world are relatively easy. It's not like playing guitar and singing at the same time. That's tricky as fuck, isn't it? And actually, it took a long time for me to be able to do both. Yeah, I watch you do it it And I'm perplexed By the dance But the one thing that's bad Is like I said if that one kink in the road happens

It's a train wreck man I should have never opened my eyes on that one Well that's different than a joke A joke you could fuck up in the middle of it And sort of like re-rail it And you even go on a tangent about the fuck up And you're okay. Well, like I said, for me, it's all pictures

and one kind of cross-circuited. And so honestly, what happened was, my hands started playing one song, and I was saying words from another, and then it was all, it was like just jumbled garbage. You know, I would really be fascinated if someone who was a memory expert could talk to you about how you organize thoughts,

like how you, how many, how you memorize things. I bet people could learn a lot because you're, you're there's, you've gotten just not just words. You got words that correspond to melodies, correspond to musical notes,

and you have it all like you arranged and I'm sure you've morphed it. So you probably had several versions of each song as if sort of evolved inside your head. I bet there'll be, how many as if sort of evolved inside your head. I bet there'll be... How many fucking songs do you have in your head right now? Like, how many songs could you reliably play? A hundred? Just me without, like, without an accompaniment?

Yeah, just you. Well, I kind of eliminate all the rap songs if you... I mean, because that wouldn't be playing too. Right. So probably most songs off of most of my records. What's the number? 60? 60 or 70.

Think about all that shit. 60 times what? Five minutes? Four? Four minutes? Yeah. That's a lot of fucking shit to memorize, son. A lot of shit inside your head just spinning around

and you're calling upon. And then there's another three albums of raps and stuff I've never even used yet shit to memorize son a lot of shit inside your head just spinning around and you're calling another you know three albums of raps and stuff i've never even used yet that's you know do you think you could bust those out as well or would you need to get into a rap mindset um i like the the classics i could bust out did you take any shit when you moved from rap to like this sort of bluesy style of music nah because i think some people are growing up with me and i've never really i was part of the coca nostra this was that was a little rap collective you know and all every one of my records has something hip-hop related i still kind of

consider myself hip-hop artist you know i just evolved into what i'm doing you know anybody who's down with la coca nostra just that name i don't want to get in an argument with any of those dudes i don't want to be in an argument with anybody who's in something called la cocaonostra, just that name, I don't want to get in an argument with any of those dudes. I don't want to be in an argument with anybody who's in something called La Coconostra. That seems like there's a lot of drama that would come with that. Just the names. Coco Café.

Powerful Coco Café. I think it came from one day where before I joined the group, there was a couple of the guys who liked it a little bit. And they were talking in the studio one day like, yo, we're getting along great. It's like La Cosa Nostra. And Danny Boy was sober, and he was like, yeah, more like La Coca Nostra.

Kind of coined the name right there. The cocaine's a motherfucker, man. That Buck Cherry song, that's a badass jam. You know that song, I Love the Cocaine? Yeah. That's the best cocaine song next to the Eric Clapton one. I've never really had to have the issue come up because of... You stayed away from that shit?

I mean, I did a couple times in my life, but it never became... I always knew I had a little heart thing. So I was like, you know, the meths and the cocaines and even the ecstasy and stuff like that, I stayed heavily away from all that. What about caffeines? No, I drink the shit out of it. I'm a Coca-Cola fiend, man. I drink too much.

If I stopped drinking Coca-Cola alone, Joe, I'd probably lose 15 pounds just from that. Why don't you stop? Because I fucking love it, man. Really, do you? Yeah. You don't even do Coke Zero? You go straight. No.

You know what, man? I only drink Coke out of a glass bottle. Mexican Coke. Yeah. This is what I tell people. Think about it this way. If you want to really change. Well, they make American Cokes, the little, sorry, but the little eight ounce are Americans.

You can find Mexican ones, but I'll drink the little American ones, too. If you want to really change what you drink, and you really want to drink a lot of water, just think about how delicious water would be if it was rare as fuck. If water was difficult to come by. Water's delicious now. I love an ice cold bottle of water. Just pound it. Just take, go, it's this, there's that fucking monster in your brain that tells you to get

that Coca-Cola. Well, no, when I, when I, I've gone on kicks where I like have stopped and what I do is I get club soda. Oh. Cause it's the bite, that bite, that cold bite back of that carbonated goodness and the sugar rush. Is club soda bad for you? Is it bad to drink carbonated shit? I heard there's something about carbonated water that's not supposed to be good for you.

I think it's got sodium in it. Is that what it is? Yeah, there's sodium in it. Yeah, there might be a lot of sodium in it. Coca-Cola, fuck you up. It's that corn syrup, man. That corn syrup's a motherfucker. Well, that's why the Mexican ones are a little better.

They're made with real sugar. Yeah, or you get those you get it they sell them all around California yeah really in California yeah when you get out of California I get or Arizona anywhere that touches Mexico you can pretty much get them in Ohio before they started selling the small little ones because they stopped selling the tall ones yeah but they stopped selling them like in Ohio they stopped selling all bottles for a while. And they just recently, like maybe like seven years ago, brought back like the little baby bottles in Ohio. So I used to go to antique stores and buy the old bottles and then fill them up with Coke and put them in my refrigerator because I'm a psycho. Wow. Why? Just because you like drinking out of those bottles?

Yeah, I'm the same way with him. I love fucking Coke in a bottle. Yeah, but if you pour it in there, then it kills all the fizz, right? No, not if you drink it the same day or two. Oh. Really? Just something about it, the way glass chills it, too, is better to me. I feel like I can taste metal when I drink out of aluminum cans.

Well, when cans first came out, you could taste the difference. Remember going like, oh, this tastes weird. Do you remember that, when cans first came out? I don't but i i do remember the people were like really into this mexican coke and that mexican coke like people were saying it's actually it just tastes better it's cane sugar it's the original coca-cola because it's actual sugar yeah before all the corporations bought into the corn syrup thing and that's all we use now in america do you know that coca-cola is the number one like as far as like importer like who who takes cocaine in this country coca-cola they use medical cocaine and they they get medical cocaine from processing

the coca leaves that they use to make coca-cola like they're connected with medical cocaine yeah one of the active ingredients in coca-c Did you ever hear about their sanction? Like they were part of all these sanctioned assassinations in South America? What? Oh, my God. Go to documentaryheaven.com. Oh, no. Coca-Cola's evil? And I think it's called the Coca-Cola Files or the Coca-Cola Cases.

Wow. And it's about their involvement in some nefarious activities down there in South America. Wow, if you're going to be in South America. I'm surprised I didn't hear about that inside that little documentary. Yeah, they don't. I mean, they don't sell Coke, but they do sell to – they take the process of converting whatever the fuck is in the coca leaves into some sort of a flavonoid, some sort of a plant-based taste. And they take that, and it's one of the ingredients of coke that makes it taste weird. And for the longest time, it was actually cocaine.

Oh, yeah. The original Coca-Cola was cocaine. But when the process that they used to make cocaine. We got you going. Yeah. The actual process today, and this is in 2013, that they used to make Coca-Cola, involves cocaine. It doesn't give you a cocaine high, but there's a flavor aspect of it that actually comes from the coca plant. And then they take that shit and they sell it and they process it and they take the cocaine out of it and make medical cocaine.

It's crazy because a gang of shit used to have cocaine. Yes. Like all these little, your Vicks NyQuil would have been like loaded with cocaine back then. Or codeine. Or codeine. Codeine. Yeah, that stuff was badass. There was housewife remedy. All those cure-alls had a little bit of cocaine in them.

Did you ever have the old school NyQuils with the codeine in it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I had some the other day. Did you really? Where can you get it? You can still get it. You can get the NyQuil with codeine?

Yeah, you just have to get a prescription for it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know they have prescription cough syrup with codeine, but I didn't know if it was NyQuil with codeine? Yeah, you just have to get a prescription for it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know they have prescription cough syrup with codeine, but I didn't know if it was NyQuil anymore. You used to be able to just go to CVS. And you'd go to CVS and you'd get NyQuil. And I got sick once. And I'll never forget this. I'd never taken it before, but I got sick once.

And I was so happy. I was like, my pillow was like massaging me. I was like collapsed into this pillow pillow Watching TV I never felt better I was like Oh my god I could be a junkie on this I had one of those Big bottles of that

Medical grade Cough syrup And like I kinda got into A stretch Where I was fucking with it And then like Within a year or so A couple

Like at least three rappers I knew died It makes you feel like You're coming for hours You forget to breathe in your sleep you just stop yeah whoa that's how it just slows you down so much people just like would go to sleep and die yikes that's when i was like there was a gang left and that was like the bottle i had was like a couple grand i wonder if that has anything to do with sleep apnea i bet it has to do with i got it because some guy knew like there was a sneaker freak like me, he worked for Sparklets,

and he delivered a Sparklets delivery to a dentist or a doctor's office. And as he was delivering it, he went out the back and he saw they had a fucking case of him, and he grabbed like four of them. Wow. He just gave me one. Wow. That stuff is powerful as fuck. There was one time I spent like five days in my house like fucked up on that shit, dude.

Playing SOCOM 2. Yeah, that stuff's legit. There's a lot of pain stuff that's addictive as fuck. It's amazing today. The five days after that were fucking hell. Oh, I bet. What is the withdrawal like? That shit just headache-y body. You're just feeling awful. Sniff what is that head achy body you're just

yeah you're sick you're basically like you feel like you got the flu for like three days so then you get more but does it make you wanna is it one of those things where makes you want to get no I didn't like after that five day but I did it a few times after that lightly within a drink or something but like that five days I was going like straight wow it's like never stop and being drunk it's like being drunk for days but the visual like your brain is getting all that visual like uh from because i was like heavily into that video game for a time we had like a whole team of people it was when online shit first like really was good like you know it was working well and like

so um we would just get fucked up for days like the vid your brain's getting all this like happiness from the visual and like you said i was in my chair just like oh dude gaming for days i just talked to another dude who uh had a back injury and got hooked on oxycontins i've probably talked to maybe 10 people that have told me the exact same story another dude who had a hard time kicking it. I just wonder, I'm like, how many people out there,

there's 300 million people. How many people out there are hooked on Oxycontin? There's a commercial right now on TV that's telling people about, you know, if you're hooked on opiates and this, that, and the other, they're not advertising it like 1% of the people.

No, they're advertising. It's prime time. It's like herpes meds. Yo, it's out there. People in droves, they're not advertising that shit on TV because it's like herpes meds. Yo, it's out there, people. In droves. They're not advertising that shit on TV because it's not around.

Right, exactly. It's not like they're malaria pills. Right. You don't ever hear that on TV. It comes out like malaria pills. Yeah, do you need a malaria shot? It's boner pills. Yoo-hoo.

Fix your boner pills. Herpes meds. Yeah. There's a lot of problems out there yeah there's a lot of people hooked on pills i mean that's a man that's why everything else is illegal yeah it's the pharmaceutical corporations they wanted us hooked on their drugs it's amazing how that's happened i mean that really is almost like a science fiction movie when you look at how many people are dependent on and then not only that how many jobs are dependent upon the production of these things.

When we were young, was medicine something even advertised? Besides a cold medicine like a NyQuil or something like that, did you ever see advertisements on TV for like your toe nail fungus? Right. There's so many commercials that say, ask your doctor about this. You never used to go ask your doctor for medicine. They told you what fucking medicine you needed. Yeah, because if you have a psychosomatic thing, you can go in and say, you know, doc, I saw this

commercial and that's what I have. And all of a sudden you start feeling it. You get told enough on TV, hey, do your arms hurt? Can you move them? Fuck, I can't move them. Does your hair grow? Fuck, it stopped growing. Maybe you have this. I might have it. Look at all the symptoms. I got it. I think I got it. Shit. And then they run really quickly by may cause vomiting,

anal bleeding, and then it's like, what the fuck? Who's going to actually take this? Well, it's so unfair if you know the history of people, too. It's not like they didn't know that people have been like rused by charlatans, all these fucking late night preachers that are trying to get people to donate money. They've been doing it for years and years and years. They didn't. They already knew that there was a certain percentage of the population that were like super easily manipulated. percentage of the population that were like super easily manipulated so to to make them responsible for you know their own judgment and having a commercial on that's selling prescription drugs

that's really ridiculous that's not just the guys you got now you got guys coming and asking for stuff and how many doctors are just sleazebags i mean we've learned how many doctors used to be when we were young that was somebody like a you were told policemen firemen doctors these are good people we know now that's not true. They're people. They're just as dirty and rotten as everybody else. So how many of them are like, yeah, sure, I'll prescribe you all that shit. Oh, it's happening for sure. I mean, I

could go out right now legitimately right now by the end of, well, it's probably late today, but by the end of the day tomorrow, I could have probably five prescriptions for painkillers if I really want them. Well, today in California, there's a database. So you could probably go to different doctors and maybe get different things prescribed, maybe. Yeah, not the same one.

Yeah, but in Florida, they don't have a database. I mean, they might have changed it now, but they had that show, The Oxycontin Express, that they aired. You can just Google that online. You can watch it. It's, what is that? I think it was on TruTV.

But either way, whatever it was on, the OxyContin Express Vanguard, that was the show. They went and they showed how you can go to Florida, you can go to a doctor, say, oh, my back hurts. They give you a prescription. Then you go down the street to another doctor. He gives you a prescription for the same shit. Nobody talks to anybody. There's not a database that they can say, hey, Mr. Wilson, I see

you've had 10,000 OxyContin prescriptions from different doctors this year. So because of that, Florida sells more OxyContin prescriptions from different doctors this year. So because of that, Florida sells more OxyContin than the whole country. Like literally, I think that the numbers for how much – It might be part of your whole explanation of Florida's craziness. Oh, absolutely. Let me make sure that that's true because someone told me that. Florida uses more Oxy than the whole country.

But Florida uses more oxy than the whole country. Because there's a doubt in my mind. Brian, what do you think? Is that right? Yeah. Do you think that's right? I think it's right. It doesn't sound wrong.

It doesn't sound wrong. Yeah. Well, either way, I'll look for it while we're talking. But the reality is that there's a lot of fucking people that take that shit and they're gone. It's opiate. It's really dangerously addictive. And they just toss them around. I never took it. Somebody gave me some once, and they actually frightened me.

I threw them away because I knew so many people that just got caught out there so quickly on them. Whoa, you ready for this? In Florida alone, almost 3,000 people died of an overdose in 2009, 2010. The majority of these people had legal prescriptions, medications in their systems at the time of death. Wow. That's nutty shit, man. They're just dropping like flies.

3,000 people, man. That's 9-11. That's 9-11. That's 9-11, and it's happening all the time. It's 9-11, and it keeps going. People just dropping. This show was really scary because one of the guys on the show, his wife had died of an overdose, and he got high before he called the cops.

His wife was lying next to him cold and blue, and this motherfucker got high before he called the ambulance. That's how crazy it is. Yeah, that shit honestly scared me. It's terrifying. I had a period where I was like heavy into like taking like Vicodin and drinking a few whiskeys. Oh, why'd you like to do that? What does that feel like?

It made me feel really fucking good. Like I would take like half a Vicodin. My rule was a half a Vicodin and then I'd have a few whiskeys and it'd be like, it'd be almost the same feeling as that, that crop syrup. You ever do that Brian? Vicodin. My rule was a half a Vicodin, and then I'd have a few whiskeys, and it'd be almost the same feeling as that crop syrup. You ever do that, Brian? Vicodins and whiskey? Yeah, I've done Vicodin as alcohol. What is it like? It's really slow.

Yeah, it's like comfortable. Yeah, it's like tripping on the robo-trip. I had a buddy who was a guitar player who said that Vicodins made him super creative. Love Vicodins. Maybe. No? Maybe? No?

You don't think so? That's never happened to me. Vicodin makes me stupid. I find you're pretty lazy on them. I was pretty lazy on them. Wow. That's interesting. I just wanted to, like, yeah, I'm good.

Maybe I have some call-up abroad or something. Abroad. Everlast is from the 50s. Call-up abroad. You got a scally cap on? You call up abroad or something. Abroad. Everlast is from the 50s. Call up abroad. You got a scally cap on, calling up abroad. I'm calling up a flapper. Why, listen, see? You ever watch those old movies where dudes are backhand bitches?

Yeah. And you're like, whoa. How often was that going on? Well, you could put it in a movie. A lot. We, yeah. To the moon, Alice. Yeah, we, well, that, he never actually hit her.

He's threatening her. No. It was the theme of the show. He was, right? He was, right, when you think about it. Pow, to the moon, Alice. Yeah. Well, he never actually hit her. He was threatening her. It was the theme of the show. He was, right? He was, right? When you think about it. Pow! To the moon, Alice. Pow!

Right in the kisser. Yeah. He was going to punch her. To the moon. And he was a big guy, too, man. I'm going to punch you in the face. And Jackie Gleason seemed like the type of dude who would punch a chick. You ever see that Sean Connery interview where he talked about sometimes women need a slap

because they keep pushing? Sometimes you have to slap them. Everybody was like, whoa, goddamn Sean Connery. But the way he was saying it, he's like, listen. You've never had a broad pushing that button on you. Oh, yeah. No, I haven't. I don't think he meant every.

I mean, see, that's probably one of the things. You're asking me? Yeah, I'm asking you. My dad beat my mom, and I had a very, very vivid image of that. My father was an alcoholic. So I'm very scared of that, of getting into any sort of domestic situation. So, no, I've never had. I had one chick.

I'm not saying you ever hit one. I'm just saying, but you never had a broad come at you? Oh, yeah. I've had a couple. You knew she was pushing to a point where she wanted you to slap the shit out of her or do something physical to her? No. I had to duck man i just like i've never i never got a lot of crazy broads no i've liked a lot of crazy broads too

but i have a little bit i have a little bit of a higher threshold before i press the panic button subscribe to the chris rock theory which was i won't hit a bitch but i'll shake the shit out of yeah well you know my whole life when i was a young man was all dedicated to martial arts. And the last thing I ever wanted to do is get in a violent altercation with a girl. But I had chicks swing at me. I've had a couple of girls I dated, like, make a move. I'm just saying, they know there's broads who want that to happen. But I've never gotten even close.

I'm not willing to enter. That's the sign to get the fuck away. Right. And what if you like it? You know, what if some chick comes after you and you fucking crack her and all of a sudden you're in you're you're like all right well i started hitting you here we go you know we're actually fighting now and then you're plumbing her and kneeing her in the face and pounding her into the ground i mean what the fuck are you doing are you gonna fight like what are you gonna do you gonna halfway fight are you gonna shake her are you gonna slap her how hard do you slap her can

you punch her if she punches you? What if she grabs your dick and she won't let go? Are you going to punch her then? What happens then? And then if she gets up and she grabs a knife... Now you're asking questions. If you're going to ask me an opinion, I'm really going to subscribe to it. I'll tell you the same way I heard a pimp say it in American Pimp. There is a time and a

place to hit anyone. Yes, in defending yourself. In defending your life. So if you're saying if she grabbed your dick and won't let go you're getting punched dead in your grave oh yeah for sure for sure if you're psychologically trying to torture me or something i'm gonna do everything i can to get the fuck away from you yeah that's when i just i don't have a desire to hit anybody when they're psychologically tortured but i come from the same thing my father you know he wasn't he was like a binge alcoholic like he'd be fine for nine months and then bump in the road and he'd be gone for three, four weeks.

Come home and by the time I hit 16, 17, you know. Did that steer you away in any way from alcohol or make you wary of it? Well, yeah, very wary of it. I mean, it never steered me away. I was always fucking drinking, you know. But I just never drank by myself. It was always early on in my life i was very aware of that kind of stuff like don't be caught drinking at home don't drink because you're sad or in a bad mood i never that's not my thing yeah that's never the good move like drinking for me is something i do like oh we're

gonna go out and have some fun right let's have a few drinks that's cool that you were able to overcome that even though your dad had an issue because sometimes that that thing is either psychological but sometimes it's genetic yeah but like by the time i had 15 16 i would my routine was like i would when i knew those because like i said it was like it wasn't every night thing it's like it'd be fine for a long time but when you knew he was on a binge i would stay up every night till either he didn't come home or he came home sit him down give him some food just to keep him from, like, fighting. And then, like, one time, you know, he started trying to fight with my mom. But I was thinking it was about 16, 17, and that's when I stepped in.

Yeah, it's a fucked up situation. We had a fight, and, you know, I woke up on the couch later. My dad was a big construction-working man, so, you know, he wasn't easy to fight. But that was the last time it happened, though, too. When me and him squared off, it was the last time it ever happened too he never did it again and then they finally split up a little while later wow yeah that's not good man yeah being around crazy big drunks that can beat the fuck out of you is never bueno yeah you know what but before he passed though i think he got it together he he became you know his life lessons were learned you know what i mean well the alcohol

one is such a fucked up one because it seems some sort of a chemical thing goes off in some folks. And he died at 63. I know it shortened his life. Of course. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. It's poison.

I mean, it feels good because it's poison. You're poisoning your shit. But it's goddamn, it's fun sometimes. Yeah, whiskey's good, man. It's fun. I like that stuff. I like that stuff. And the relief, the relief from the burdens of thinking about all the subtle nuances of the world, you know,

when you're just like, who gives a fuck? Let's do another shot. You clink glasses and you know that everybody's all in on it with you. Yeah, that's good stuff. It's good stuff. When it goes the other way from there. If that's not how you're doing it, you shouldn't be doing it. Exactly.

But, again, it boils down to who you're doing it with. Unless you're an alcoholic. Then it boils down to who you're doing it with unless you're an alcoholic then it boils down to sorry you got a shitty gene you got some american indian in you or some irish you know i'm irish i should you know i mean i kind of i'm sure there's some genetic level of connection to it but it's choice man there's a big choice there you can choose you can there's you can choose not to if i if i really suspected i was like fucked up like my father was i would have just chose to never drink right you know i mean i mean because i was so hyper conscious i because i was able to see also the pattern my father's father was my father was a good father compared to his father you know i mean my father

made improvements yeah so i i can see and i okay, so it's my turn to make that improvement. That's exactly the same with my father. My father's father was even more of a savage. He came over from Ireland during the Depression. And my mom told me that when she was young, my dad's dad tried to fuck her. Like, she was like, when she'd already had me, like, she'd be over the house and my father would step out. I'm going to go down to this corner and my dad's father would be like, what's up? What's up?

You want some of this? And she'd be like, what the fuck kind of crazy family is this? Just drunk savages from the depression. Those were people that were worried about starving to death. Those are people that would take a piece of pussy in a heartbeat. They were rapists and savages. They were animals. They took a fucking boat ride across the world to wind up in some place where they never even saw a picture of it.

They had no idea what it was going to be like. Landed on a boat, got out, and made their way. Yeah, were hated. Hated immediately. Made their way. They were so much closer to animals. Hence the back-fest woman. Schmack!

You know, that's from the 1950s. That shit was acceptable. People were crazy back then. They were fucking animals. They're crazy now. But they're better, right? Hopefully. According to Joe Rogan's window.

If there's any sign, if there's any proof that culture is evolving, it's the proof in our record of culture. Our songs, our movies, you know, our stand-up comedy. You know you want to see the the evolution of culture in the in stand-up comedy It's a good microcosm It's a good way to look at the evolution of culture go back and try to watch like some old comedy from the 1950s and 60s It's so dated even if you can put yourself into that mindset and see the brilliance of it. It's so dated Yeah, you know watch some lenny bruce try to laugh that's how as edgy as he was the greatest he was the greatest he

opened up all the doors but you can't watch that shit today it's weird carlin still some of it some of it some of it's still dated though if you go to the really old stuff prior's the first guy to me that's universal like he's he stands the test of time he's he's evergreen his his his shit was so like raw like when he would talk about his life and he the way he would describe things was so raw that i think to this day still resonates yeah i remember the first time watching live on the sunset strip fuck yeah wasn't supposed to be watching it exactly yeah it was in the movie theater. The guy was just talking and everybody was dying laughing.

That was a game changer for a lot of people. That was the first time a lot of people got to see comedy like that. It created a whole generation of comics, man. Sure. A little era. He was the first really honest guy. Well, him and Lenny Bruce. Lenny Bruce was the first really honest guy, too. But when it came to his personal life

prior, it took it to a completely different level than anybody had before. I love that movie too, Jojo Dancer. We've got to wrap this up with one or two more. Which ones do you want to play? It's up to you. I already told you I'd play one.

Yeah, I've got to hear that one. And then maybe one more that you want to do? Is that cool? Figure it out. Okay, beautiful. And if any of you little punks on Twitter are complaining that he's playing music, I need you to go fuck yourself right now. Okay?

Listening? Get your mind straight, bitches. Respect. OG Everlast. Follow him on Twitter guitar solo Hey now All you sinners Put your lights on Put your lights on

Hey now All you lovers Put your lights on Put your lights on Hey now All you killers Put your lights on Put your lights on Put your lights on

Hey now Are you chilling? Leave your lights on Leave your lights on Cause there's a monster Living under my bed. Whispering in my ear. There's an angel with a hand on my ear.

She say I got nothing to fear. You say I got nothing to fear There's a darkness That's living deep in my soul Still got a bridge to serve So let your light shine Deep into my soul God will never lose the nerve I'm going to be shy. Thank you. Hey now Hey now Hey now

Hey now Hey now Hey now Hey now Are you a sinner? Put your lights on Put your lights on Hey now Are you a children? Leave your lights on. Hey now.

Are you children? Leave your lights on. Leave your lights on. There's a monster. In my bed. Whispering in my ear There's an angel With a hand on my head She said I got nothing to fear

She said Love, love, love We'll see you next time. Shine like a star Shine like a star Shine like a star We'll shine like stars And we'll fade away Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Indeed. Powerful Everlast ladies and gentlemen

I'm getting my mojo back a little bit Letting bitches know From that last one It's still bothering me We gotta let it go My friend We gotta move forward I'm there

Alright I'm there as well What should we do? What is it? Black coffee Black coffee? Okay Can we do that yet though?

Did I do that? I don't know You know what? We'll wrap it up with this. We'll take it home with this. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in. God bless you all in your own special, beautiful, perfect way. We're going to do this one.

Go fuck yourselves. Why, people are mad? Be cool. No, no, no. Fuck all them. Show them to go fuck themselves. That's not a bad thing. I don't even pay attention to that stuff.

Here we go. No one's mad, man. Everyone's not a bad thing. I don't even pay attention to that stuff. Here we go. No one's mad, man. Everyone's enjoying this. This is the old one. Here we go. Yesterday, just a dream I don't remember Tomorrow's still a hope I've yet to indulge I'm out of time, out of rhyme, and out of reason

Seasons change, leave me out in the cold The story's old Tale been told by many scholars Got a fistful of dollars Pocket full of love Got a bug if you hear me crying Try to sell my soul But no one's buying

Lord, stay me down there if I'm lying Getting cold, it's time for dying Come on, watch me shine There's not a word in my Lord today Come out and watch me shine There's not a word in my Lord today Watch me shine Let man free from sin Cast the first stone

Begin the violence Let man's words ring true Speak on up till his voice Break through the silence Thank you. I left my life, left my wants and choose straight. Recognize the price still paid me lifetime. Come on, watch me shine. This light of the world is my law, yeah. This day. Come on, watch me shine.

Stay, come on, watch me shine Feel the world in my love Stay, watch me shine guitar solo You're sitting away from my rose to cross Never met down, you watch me bleed Lay my head against the earth Land my body like a sea You can't always get the thing you want You deserve me for what you need Fill my hole with precious dirt

Till the soil plucks the weeds plucks the weeds girl watch me shine girl I would my lord today come on watch me shine

girl I would my lord today Watch me shine. Now the world in my law is a day. Watch me shine. Watch me shine. Watch me shine. Watch me shine Watch me shine Watch me shine Boom.

That was beautiful. That was fucking beautiful. God damn it. Thank you, sir. That's some spectacular shit. That was fucking beautiful. God damn it. Thank you, sir. That's some spectacular shit. It's over now. Now you've erased it. You've completely exercised all the demons.

All of them are gone. Hey, it's a fuck up. It happens. It used to happen. There's a couple times like a strap would break on stage and guitar fall. And it's like, you know what, people? It's real. Right.

It is real. It's real. Exactly. Now you can accept that. At least it wasn't like the first time on the first one that i did that at least i'm three times deep people know i can i got what i got and i fucked i fucked one up because joe answered his phone people love the fuck out of you it's my fault 100 i want to see if you catch any flack on twitter i've already have i'm sure

i apologize to you i apologize to all the beautiful people on Twitter. I apologize to Stamps.com for what I did. Go to Stamps.com. Use the code word JRE and get a beautiful special offer. I think they come to your house and rub your balls. Do they rub your balls? We should start a Tumblr. No, I don't think that's not the case anymore. We should start a Tumblr called TrampStamps.com.

Do you like Tramp Stamps? I don't know. It just sounded like a funny website. Tramp Stamp Pictures. Have you ever seen the one that's like chicks with Steve Buscemi eyes? That's just fucking rude.

No, you got, it's fucking disturbing, dude. I don't want to see it. It's more disturbing than Game of Thrones last night. Oh, don't talk. Stop. Don't say a word.

Oh, you ain't seen it? I haven't seen it yet. Are you into it? Oh, yeah. I love it. I'm too behind. I got to catch up tonight. I'm going to say a word.

Don't please. Don't look at Twitter either because they're going to try and fuck you right Twitter. I know. I'm already avoiding it. Hey, we love to fuck at you guys. Thank you very much. Greatest show right now. Thanks to Onnit.com. Go to O-N-N-I-T. Use the code name Rogan. Save some cash. OG Everlast on Twitter. Follow.

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D-A. Like duh. Duh. Raven, duh. Banger. Duh banger? Or black beauty. Black beauty?

That's it? You're black beauty? Oh, is that your Twitter? Your Twitter is black beauty. Your Twitter is Raven the Banger. Black beauty at Raven the Banger. I don't know how that Twitter shit. Your Twitter is black beauty?

Yeah, some rapper was stoned. He came over to my house. He said my hair was long and black, so he's like, you're like black beauty, bro. Is that guy trying to fuck you? I certainly hope not. Did he give you that dolphin stuffed animal? Boom, ladies and gentlemen. Good night.

We'll see you tomorrow. Tom Rhodes in the house. We're going to have to hear that story in the next podcast. Yeah, I think so. I'm confused already. Thank you.