The Joe Rogan Experience - #381 - Abby Martin
Episode Date: August 5, 2013Abby Martin is an American journalist and also host of "Breaking the Set" for RT America. ...
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Abby Martin, thank you for coming.
Thank you for inviting me, man.
I did not know Abby Martin is an artist,
and she gave me this fucking badass, dope picture that she's created.
It's very sexy.
It's very pornographic.
Can I say pornographic?
If I was, like, one of those radical minister type dudes, I would say it's pornographic.
Of course.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
It's awesome.
I didn't know that you were an artist.
Yeah.
You're a person of many talents.
Indeed.
As are you. Hmm. Hmm hmm hmm touche are you into
porn who isn't i mean like you watch it wait a minute who isn't i'm sure there's a lot of people
that's true i think a lot of people say that they don't watch it but they're lying
really i i do watch porn i think there's um there's an idea that that people have with porn
that those people are being exploited.
That's the weird thing.
You really shouldn't have videos of you fucking online like that, like doing that for a living.
The only people that are doing it are being exploited.
But that gets down to a really weird personal freedom issue because there's some people that actually want to do that.
So who's to say?
And it's a weird one because if people like watching it and people want to do it, like
what's wrong with it?
Like what exactly is wrong?
What's, what, what is really wrong if people want to have sex, but nobody wants other people
to watch?
What's, what is that really about?
Yeah.
I mean, people do want to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's, it's all, it's weird when you tell someone what they can and
can't do it's weird because then it gets to like hmm why can't you make a porn why can't you like
what is wrong with watching people fuck is there is it a is it dangerous like what's going on
are people getting harmed why how come everyone's watching it how come billions and billions of
people are watching it but we're still pretending that somehow or another it's like a negative force?
It seems like it's like an integrated part of our world.
Right.
I think there's this misconception about women being forced to do what they're doing
and they're not enjoying themselves.
But really, I don't think that's true.
And also, I think a lot of porn watchers are women a lot more than we'd think.
Wow.
That's a strong statement.
I agree with her.
Yeah?
I totally agree.
Well, you're both freaks.
You should be together.
I think it's probably the majority are men, but I think more women probably watch today than ever before.
Right.
It's a strange thing.
You know, the idea behind it is very strange that it's such a taboo subject for people.
People that have, you know, money for sex. We're living in a sexually repressed society.
Oh, for sure, yeah.
And uniquely so.
It's uniquely so because of all of our access to information.
We're still, like, sort of riding on the ripples of the Puritans that first settled here.
Like, the ripples of their way of thinking has sort of still, this day influenced like a lot of the tone of the country.
It's very strange.
Yeah.
The entire like entertainment industry just sells sex because they know that it's kind of this mystique for us because we have been so sexually repressed for so long.
I mean, compared to other countries, I guess Europe, it's so fucking different.
I mean, I was watching Braveheart on TV and they blurred out people's asses when they're mooning the camera.
But then they show people's heads being like beat up against a rock.
So it's like, why are we able to see someone's brain being smashed in, but we can't see an ass?
Yeah, it's very weird.
It's weird how, you know, you could have just incredible violence in a movie and that's fine.
But it's the sex.
We draw the line.
We draw a really distinct line.
Do you remember there was a
movie a while back called i think it was called brown bunny it was uh vincent gallo and him and
chloe so you know that girl um actually had a sex scene in the film you can't play it because it's
don't even try to play it brian because it's actually sex they they uh they she actually gave him oral sex oh wow yeah and it was like and people got mad
at him they were like furious that they put that in the film like i remember reading this like
really angry review by this guy and he was actually angry at Gallo for doing this and making him watch this scene.
This lewd act.
But it's a fucking weird thing where we have where it's like as a society like that is the line.
Right.
You do that behind closed doors.
But it's fucking reality.
Why?
Yeah.
You can make out in a movie.
You can fake fuck.
Right.
But no real fucking.
The weirdest thing to me is the softcore porn, though.
Yeah.
That's fucking weird.
How weird would it be to be a softcore porn actor?
I had a friend who did that.
I had a friend who did that, and him and this girl were naked in bed.
And they're doing this scene together, and they're doing it for a while.
And in the middle of it, she goes, you can fuck me if you really want to.
And he goes, no, that's okay.
So he's just...
He's the guy to get paid way more.
I don't know what his motivation was.
I suspect he didn't want his cock to be seen.
But the, you know, the idea behind it.
So it's a very weird thing.
We just like watching people have sex.
Yeah. But it's taboo. But yeah, it's a very weird thing. We just like watching people have sex. Yeah.
But it's taboo.
Right.
But yeah, it's a billion dollar business.
Right.
But it's not really, it seems like the business has been unfairly ignored as far as the economic
impact of the industry or on the internet, on the industry.
Because if you look at the economic impact on the music industry, it's really substantial.
Illegal downloads really became a huge issue, right?
But with pornography, no one talks about it.
No one cares.
I don't understand who pays for porn now.
Exactly.
Well, there's still websites where people make money, and there's so many people out there.
All a guy has to do is get fixated on one girl, and she just sticks dildos inside of her all week, and she's making bank.
and she just sticks dildos inside of her all week and she's making bank.
But the reality is it's like the actual buying of the DVDs
was like a big thing for them and all that went away.
And now they get like pay-per-view from like hotels and stuff
and I'm sure that must be diminished by the internet as well
since there's so many other options.
Yeah, I don't know.
But it's illegitimate.
It's like treated as illegitimate.
It's weird because it's clearly a gigantic economic force,
like the need to beat off.
Like it's gigantic, but yet it's ignored as far as like,
you know, like if banks can fail, you know, we have to prop them up.
If General Motors is going under, we have to save them.
We're saving jobs.
But if porn starts to go under, everybody's like,
But it was so inflated. It was if porn starts to go under, everybody's like, meh.
But it was so inflated.
It was so inflated to begin with, really.
The porn industry was? Yeah, people were getting paid ridiculous
amounts of money for just, you know,
like 10-minute sex scenes. Right, but what's
wrong with that? I don't think that's a bad
thing. I think
it's what the market allowed.
I mean, they were very valuable then.
But the digital aspect of their creations,
so the ones and zeros, it could be replicated for as long as they want.
That's where things get weird.
Because once you have that, it's like, oh, well, I don't have to make a copy of it.
So it's not like an actual DVD.
You could just download it, and you can get it in seconds.
That must have just crippled the business
Because you used to have to go buy a physical DVD and if you wanted porn, that's how you got your porn
That was like for the longest time there was a store that I was to go to in Santa Monica
It was this video store. It was like half porn
It was like they had a couple fucking like Braveheart or some shit like yeah, here's Mad Max stupid
but most of it was porn.
This was like in the early 90s.
And it would just be a bunch of dudes walking around there,
shifty, not breathing too heavy,
trying to get out of there as quick as they could.
And then the rest of it was like a fucking ghost town.
Because nobody wants to go to the one video store that's mostly porn.
Right, right.
Well, the best is when they have the rooms there.
It's like, do you really go to a porn store and just jerk off in a room?
For some people, they have nowhere else to go.
Yes, yes.
For some people, they have nowhere else to go.
Right.
Also, for some people, they get their freak on and doing something that's forbidden in
some weird seedy way.
Like, there's something about going to a peep booth that just excites people.
I had a friend who used to smoke crack and go to a peep booth.
That was his thing.
He lived in New York.
He was a pool hustler.
And one of his fun things to do would be to smoke crack and go to peep booths.
So what is a peep booth?
You just get a glimpse of someone dancing or what?
It's either one of two things, I guess.
Some of them are like videos.
You can go and you can watch videos.
And they would watch videos and beat off.
And then the other ones are like actual people like people would be like behind
glass and you know you would talk to them like you you walk in they're sitting down behind like
a plexiglass thing and then they do things for you me and eddie f went to that one place in
san francisco that's where i what it was my first time where i touched the walls and it was wet.
Oh, Jesus, son.
Yeah.
Fuck that shit.
It's dark in there, too.
You can't even see the walls.
Yeah, and they got beads and shit that you have to walk through.
It's fucking weird.
The whole idea is weird.
You're allowed to masturbate there, though.
They're telling you that, right?
They can't really say that.
That's what happens.
It's like one of those things
where they know you're going to beat off,
but they can't say, hey, come on in and beat off's like one of those things where they know you're going to beat off, but they can't say,
Hey,
come on in and beat off because then it becomes like a public health issue.
I think like people just shooting fluids all over the place.
Yeah.
It's like,
and not only that,
they don't just don't want to let you know that you can do that.
Just so just,
just to keep whatever,
you know,
like to keep people from taking it to the next level.
Because if you tell people that they can do it,
then people, you know, they're like, well, how come I can't sell it?
You know, they get, you know what I mean?
Like nobody's like happy with the status quo.
They always want to continue to push it.
So if you tell people they can beat off in there, they're just probably going to be butt fucking each other.
And they're probably going to go crazy.
They're going to do, they're going to want to have sex there.
And then we tell them that's okay.
Then they're going to want to have sex there. And then we tell them that's okay, then they're going to want to kill people.
The decline in porn at least has raised the quality of the prostitute, though.
So we should just think about that for a second.
Well, that's another weird thing.
I read an article where a girl who was a – it's a very smart article about a girl who used to be a porn star and then became a prostitute.
And she was saying that there's not much difference between being on porn star and then became a prostitute and she was saying
that it's just there's not much difference between being on the set and being in a brothel
you know that it's just like there's no cameras or you know you just you're just having sex and
sometimes you don't want to have sex with that person you just do it because that's your job
and i was like wow it's weird that we like that's a that's a real issue like you like you tell
someone that someone's a prostitute and that that person's like, oh, my goodness.
There's that website.
I just don't understand why it's illegal.
That luxury companion website, have you ever heard of that?
No, what's that?
It's this high-quality prostitute website, but the sad thing is if you go through it, it's all porn stars.
You're all like, man, I can actually have sex with her?
That's crazy.
Well, that's a sweet deal if you're a fan.
Yeah.
all like, man, I can actually have sex with her.
That's crazy.
Well, that's a sweet deal if you're a fan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not like, you know, you could, for $10,000 or $20,000, you could go play basketball with Michael Jordan.
Right.
You know, he's like, bitch, I'm busy.
But if you're a fan of one of those gals, you can actually have sex with them.
That's got to be really weird to be a dude who's like super obsessed.
And for the girl, wow, what a crazy chance.
It's one thing to meet strangers, but to meet strangers who are sexually obsessed with you and get to
have sex with you for money whoo that's a strange energy exchange right there
that's some high-level shit I should do that too like John why are we doing and
we're like the shy ones like oh no men yeah well it's it's looked down upon in
both sides soon as money's involved it's like money and sex, for some reason,
do not, any time it's connected, whether it's a gigolo or whether it's a girl,
prostitute, it's, like, terrible.
It's awful.
Like, you're connecting money and sex.
Money and everything else is cool.
You know?
Money and competition.
Even though we use sex to sell everything, right?
Did you guys hear about that dude who killed a prostitute and used the self-defense thing and he got off?
Because he said that she stole money from him and she didn't actually fuck him.
Oh.
So then he was able to get off on self-defense in some weird fucked up law in a state saying,
it was like one of those stand your ground things, except he was like, you stole my money and didn't deliver the goods, so I can kill you.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
What state is this?
I want to say Texas, but I don't...
What's the story?
How long ago was this story?
Just say, dude kills prostitute.
Oh, my God.
Do you know how many articles you're going to get?
That's probably more hits on Google than baseball bat in the ass.
Guy kills prostitute or baseball bat in the ass.
Gets off.
I went to look once
because
I didn't believe it was true. Someone told me
there was a video of a young girl with a baseball
bat in her rump.
I went for the Google, but
when you go for the Google search, the numbers
are insane.
I'm going to do it. Let's see what the recent one
is. Baseball bat in ass.
Dana D'Aramond. Our friend Dana. Let's see what the recent one is. Baseball bat in ass. Dana D'Armond.
Our friend Dana.
She's a sweetie.
Let's see how many hits.
Okay.
You ready for this?
Yeah.
Five million, 900,000 results.
Oh, jeez.
Wow.
Whoa.
What a fucking strange.
Do not choose images because the first photo that comes up is the worst, grossest image I've seen.
Oh, dude.
Jesus Christ.
What the fuck is that?
What is that?
Someone being rude.
Is that real?
Someone being rude.
I don't know.
Let's say it's not.
Let's hope it's not.
Yikes.
Yeah.
Whoops.
And then it's like top bridges.
How did we get stuck in this, Abby?
It's your fault or something. Immediately looking up, there's my back in the ass. Yeah. Whoops. And then it's like top bridges. How did we get stuck in this, Abby? It's your fault or something.
Immediately looking up, there's my back in the ass.
Oh, it's because of her painting.
We started talking about porn.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
It's your fault.
But look how good women used to look.
That was a playboy from the 70s and 60s.
Women look pretty good today, too.
That's true.
Everybody's good.
Natural boobs.
Yeah. More voluptuous. I think they're
going to have, within our lifetimes,
a different workaround for that.
And it'll be a biological workaround.
They'll have something where you can actually grow
a breast. Your breasts will grow larger.
I really think that's going to happen.
I think there's going to be all sorts of weird genetic changes
over the next few decades.
The stuff that they're working on right now, I talked to Ray Kurzweil.
He told me that they're working on artificial blood cells that allow you to hold your breath underwater for four hours.
Sweet.
You can just hop in a tank of water and because of these artificial blood cells, they're so efficient that you would have enough oxygen where you'd hold your breath for four hours.
That's like, he thinks, within our lifetime.
That's awesome.
It's mind-blowing.
Fucking yeah.
Yeah, so I think, like, boobs is going to be an easy one.
Yeah.
That's going to be easy.
They're just going to give you the boob bug.
You know, it's like a version of the flu.
You get sick and your tits grow like monsters.
That's what's going to happen.
There are probably going to be no ugly people in 100 years.
Everyone's going to be super engineered,
genetic-looking Dr. Manhattan men,
and every woman's going to be the perfect sex pot.
They're going to have that down.
There's going to be no...
Why would you have bad teeth when you could just brush?
It's going to be that simple.
Didn't you go to the jean place?
What do you want to trust random chance
and what your body's like?
What are you, fucking crazy?
You want to trust random chance on one of the most important things.
As far as, like, social currency, we all agree that, like, beautiful people have, like, this amazing power.
They have an amazing power to get people's attention.
They have, like, you meet, like, a big, tall, handsome man with a perfect face, and you just go, wow, he's here.
Right.
You know, it's totally natural.
It's a complete natural thing for human beings to do.
But it's fucking weird.
It's a lottery.
And how much would that fuck up with the social order, though, if everyone looked good?
Oh, it's going to throw it into the toilet.
It's going to be a goddamn mess.
It's like how people are lazy because we don't have to go chase quail to eat
we just go to fucking jack-in-the-box and get a chicken sandwich it's fucking easy you take
takes three minutes and it's already cooked you know you give them some paper and you're done with
it but i think that it's going to be much along the same lines like we're lazy in that it doesn't
take much to get us fed so most people just sort of skate by in life.
There's no real desperation or fear of not feeding,
in this country at least.
For some people, it's a struggle,
but one day it's going to get to the point where that's the way it is with everything.
That's the way it is with your looks.
You're going to be able to just look like whatever you want.
There's going to be people that don't even look like people.
People are definitely going to want to look like dinosaurs.
People that are furries and shit like that,
if they could genetically alter humans
to be a dinosaur-type person
and change your body,
and then you have to eat goats and shit,
kill them with your face,
people would sign up.
No doubt, right?
There'd probably be a huge counterculture
of just dinosaur motherfuckers.
Yes!
But I always thought it would be so interesting like a thousand years from now if we died off
and then people in the future came back and dissected our skeletons and found remnants of like silicon.
And they're like, what the fuck were people just like inserting silicon packets in their body and ab implants?
You know that that exists now?
I can't imagine.
I have one of those.
Can you imagine just getting like a shield just underneath your skin?
Cause you're like,
I don't want to fucking try to do crunches.
Well,
I think it's the surgery.
Um,
might be wrong,
but I think what the ab thing is,
is they sort of like suture it in to create permanent six pack indentations.
So it's like,
just like,
I'm not,
I'm talking shit.
I watched a special on it
but I was barely paying attention
because I was like,
do some crunches,
you lazy bitch
and I changed the channel.
I was like,
that's so ridiculous.
You're gonna get fake abs.
Dudes get fake calves.
Calve implants,
yeah.
Yeah.
If you have skinny calves,
I guess it's a bummer.
Because that's one thing
I look at a man,
I'm like,
dude,
he doesn't have big enough calves.
Well,
what happens,
I think,
with the bodybuilder type gentleman is the same thing that happens to anorexics.
I think it's been pretty much proven is that they have a distorted opinion of how they look.
Some of those big bodybuilder dudes, they won't expose their body.
They cover it up.
They have blankets and shit they wear everywhere, and they wear four or five sweaters.
It's weird.
They don't show their body. They feel small, and they wear, like, four or five sweaters. Like, it's weird. Like, they don't show their body.
They feel small, and they wear a lot of layers sometimes.
And some of these guys are fucking mountains, like human mountains.
But they're wearing, like, two sweatshirts and a T-shirt over that.
And, you know, it's almost like they want to, like—
Yeah, they get crazy.
Some of them can get—and it's not all of them, obviously, but you can get crazy.
And so they look at their calves, and they're like fuck deuce, I'm fucking sick of having little calves.
And then just stuff some shoe horns in there, pop them bitches out. I mean, I don't know who the
first guy was who went for it. It's like, I'm fucking tired of my fucking bullshit calves.
I saw some MTV special on it like 10 years ago, this little like fucking squirrely kid on the
beach. And then afterward, he's like, everyone's looking at my calves.
It's like, yeah, because they look fucking huge compared to the rest of your body.
Why are they so big?
Have you seen this?
It's doughnutting.
People are getting doughnuts put in their head.
I have seen that.
It's saline.
But that goes away, doesn't it?
Yeah, it goes away.
It's like a day or some shit.
Yeah, that's why they do it.
It's a barf.
They pump, they actually inject saline into their forehead, and then they, like, put, like, a little indentation with their finger. It sticks. It's a barf. They pump, they actually inject saline into their forehead and then they like put like
a little indentation with her finger.
That sticks.
It's hot.
People are so strange.
People are fucked.
Did you hear about that?
Some woman who was this beautiful model in Korea and then she got, she just injected
like her face with a bunch of olive oil and shit.
Yeah.
And she couldn't, they would not give her any more plastic surgery and now she looks
insane.
Yeah, it was cooking oil.
It's fucking awful.
She was injecting cooking oil into her face.
Poor girl.
I know.
Yeah, the human mind is so fucking complex.
So fucked.
It's so strange because it seems like most of your life is almost like a balancing act.
It's a balancing act of happiness and friendships and laughter and accomplishments
and not losing your mind along the way but for a lot of folks somewhere in that dance it's just
too much and they just go towards lose your mind at full steam ahead and then they're sticking
needles and cooking oil in their face or we've all seen the the one actress that like will not
stop fucking with her face until they become like almost like hideous or or or pitiful you know when
you look at them you have pity you're like oh no what did she do this thing to
her face it's a very strange aspect of the human beings that every now and then
you take like what looks like a totally normal person who's like keeping it together for a long time and then one day off to crazy town just fucking can't keep it together
anymore i give up i'm just fucking running and it's so fucking obvious too when they they overdo
the plastic surgery because everyone just looks exactly alike it's fucking creepy well it's it's
you know what it is you get delusional and you think it's gonna fix i had hair transplants and
i had my first one i think think, when I was like 26.
I had three of them.
Why?
Why so young?
Because my hair was falling out.
I was fucking freaking out.
I was freaking out when my hair was falling out because I was on TV, too.
And I was making a living as an actor at the time on news radio.
And I was like, oh, my God, my fucking hair is falling out.
I knew it was falling out for a while.
I saved it, though, with the minoxidil.
And the minoxidil was hanging in there.
But after a while, it was still falling out.
And I was like, god, I've got to do something about it.
I should have never done anything.
I should have shaved my head from the beginning.
And so whenever kids ask me online, like dudes ask me, I'm fucking freaking out.
I'm only 18.
I'm losing my hair.
Shave it, bitch.
Just deal with that.
Just accept the fact you don't have any hair.
Did the hair plugs look bad?
It didn't look good.
I never looked at my hair and went, yeah.
It was always like, oh, I guess I got hair up there now, whatever.
But the way they do it is like a single thing.
It's not like the old way of doing it.
But they take a big strip of hair, so I have this big scar on the back of my head,
like a smile for the rest of my life. But I'd rather have that. Like, first of all, it's a good public
service announcement. Like if you're thinking about doing this, just look at my head. Don't
do it. Just shave your head. And then the other thing is that it's almost like what you're doing
is it's a screwball thing. Like it seems like it might work a little, but then as you start doing it,
you go, wait a minute, isn't there options?
And the other option is just, let it
be what the fuck it is, and stop freaking out.
That's the other option. That's always the
best option, rather than
getting knocked unconscious, and they take a
chunk of meat out of the back of your head, and drill
fucking holes in there, and implant those.
It's nuts. Oh yeah, Jason, what's
his name? Jason Alexander, I think.
Yeah.
He wanted to go back in time just like 10 years.
So it kind of looked like he was about to go bald.
See, why would you...
Just to make it more realistic.
Wow.
Yeah, he got like a super cool hairpiece, I guess.
Yeah.
It's kind of weird because like if a chick wears a wig, it's like, you know, no biggie,
you know?
Right. It's kind of weird because if a chick wears a wig, it's like no biggie. When Madonna would wear wigs or when Lady Gaga would wear some crazy wigs,
nobody tripped.
But if a dude's wearing a wig, there's something.
Is that real?
He went a little too far.
Is that real?
He went too far.
That's beautiful if it's real.
That's amazing.
I would love it if he did that.
He's a wizard.
If he gave up on dyeing his hair. Imagine if he was all white like that for real. That's amazing. I would love it if he did that. He's a wizard. If he gave up on dyeing his hair.
Like, imagine if he was all white like that, for real.
So he gives up on dyeing his hair, and then he just has a crazy white hairpiece.
He just goes for it.
I would actually really love that.
Like a fucking sorcerer.
Totally respect that.
Like a sorcerer.
Michael Bolton.
Yeah, hey, whatever, man.
That's what the dude wants to look like.
But for me, I can tell you that it was a big mistake on my part,
and it was one that I made in getting hair transplants out of insecurity because I was young.
And I was thinking, like, oh, I'm not going to have a career.
I'm going to be a bald loser.
That's what I was thinking.
That's what society drills into us.
Yeah, and if you want to have a solution to something, you go research it.
And at the time, there was very little internet, too, so it wasn't as easy to research things.
But you talk to, you find a doctor who does it,
and you talk to them, and they show you photos,
and you're like, oh, this is going to work.
Boy, I'm going to fix my hair.
And the next thing you know, you're like, what am I doing?
This stupid fuck.
And I guarantee you, probably most women that wind up doing something wrong,
whether it's a lip thing or a nose thing, where they're like, oh, Christ.
And they look at it in the mirror, where they're like, oh Christ. Yeah.
And they look at it in the mirror and they're like, what the fuck did I just do?
And then you could try to fix it.
Like I've heard of girls that have had, girls?
Girls.
I don't know where that came from.
Girls that have had too many nose jobs and they have to get like cartilage removed from
the rib and then they recreate the nose.
Yeah.
I talked to this guy that told me about this operation that they had to do.
She was in her 20s, too.
She'd had too many nose jobs already, and she'd ruin her nose.
Look at Michael Jackson, dude.
I mean, I know he's a...
Yeah.
Yeah, this girl had like a...
A rare case.
Well, her nose apparently started to go in after the bone.
And it's kind of sunken because there wasn't any cartilage there to support the rest of the nose oh yeah it's weird man it's weird some people just have bigger noses
and they just got to deal with that it's all righty it's gonna be okay you know i saw michael
jackson impersonator on hollywood and vine last night with like a little kid in a candy shop i
was like this is a ridiculous moment in time. Whose kid is this?
It's so creepy. I also got
robbed. You got robbed? Yeah.
What happened? I got bum-rushed by
a crowd, and then they just
must have lifted my wallet right out of my purse.
No way. Yeah, it was crazy. So they just
ran into you and bumped into your bag
and you didn't notice it? Yeah. And I was like,
how the fuck am I going to fly? Apparently you don't need
an ID to fly.
They were like, we need to put you through to fly? Apparently you don't need an ID to fly. You just need to go,
they were like,
we need to put you through
like 20 security tests
so come to the airport
two hours early.
I was like,
god damn it.
They're going to molest you.
Yeah.
Have you ever had that happen before
where you get like roughly frisked?
No,
but I have gotten yelled at
by a TSA agent
because I didn't want to go
through the body scanner
and he was like,
what are you,
a celebrity?
He's like, only celebrities don't want to go through the body scanner. He was like, what are you, a celebrity?
He's like, only celebrities don't want to go through the body scanner.
I was like, this is crazy that you're talking to me like this.
What the fuck? This is nuts.
It's an option, isn't it?
He was just totally demeaning me in front of everyone.
Why would celebrities not want to go through it?
The new one's like a radio one.
It's like, yeah, why would you want to get
molested i
mean well it's i've never had it happen to me everyone has always been pleasant with me but uh
graham hancock uh who's been on the podcast several times he's a good friend he went through
one and he said this dude like just was aggressively sexual with him like grabbing his his body like it
felt like he was being molested like i shouldn't say aggressively sexual but him, like grabbing his body like it felt like he was being molested.
Like I shouldn't say aggressively sexual, but he grabbed his cock and the whole thing.
I mean, like you said, it felt like he was getting raped, like obviously not as extreme.
But, you know, it's like a form of a violation.
And he was really shocked by it.
And he wrote about it.
He was shocked enough that he didn't just let it go.
He sat down and wrote some stuff about it.
Well, there was just this report that came out that said that there's so many more cases of malfeasance and misconduct in the TSA than any other government.
I mean, this is like 20 times more.
And so there was this investigation done to find out, well, why is there so much fucking like crimes happening, like robbery, sexual abuse and stuff?
And it was and basically this representative figured out that they don't
really do background checks oh my god and they're just kind of skipping through this huge uh you
know you think that you would so basically they're hiring uh pedophiles and child molesters is what
they found out what yeah no way yes well nice nice people too we should we should say that i've met a
lot of really nice people at the tsa and And people, you fucking government shill. Relax.
I'm just trying to, in the interest of fairness.
I know some of them are just folks that needed a job.
And that's the reality of the situation.
Graham Hancock got molested.
He did a little bit.
Well, you know, it's a thing where I think that it can be pretty well argued that there needs to be some form of security.
But it's also a thing that is
much like many other public service jobs, is that it should be really respected, and it should be
something you're paid well for, and it should be a difficult job to acquire. And I think it's a
matter of priorities, and if we shifted those priorities, that we could make a sizable change
in the way the whole thing is run. If you made it so that people were, first of all,
made it so that those jobs are a little bit more difficult to come by
and that the people that do do it get background checks.
And it's a really good job to get with excellent benefits
so they don't feel left out or fucked or disenfranchised.
It's something that's worth, and it's also worth adhering to a certain code of conduct
because it's a really good job.
I think when you have a job, it's, you know,
what the fuck are they getting for an hour? Yeah, it's basically, they're probably just getting
paid, like, fucking minimum wage. Or a little more.
I think the TSA should be abolished. I think it's a
useless agency. Well, how do you think
that you should do security? Like we did before
9-11. How do we do it? TSA was totally
created in the wake of 9-11. It's a totally
new government agency, just like the Department of Homeland
Security. And just, I mean, think about
it. The hijackers brought on what, knives? knives like you can still bring those in this guy jonathan corbett
basically exposed the fact that you can just create an in-zone pocket and bring in whatever
the fuck you want through these body scanners so they really have like a huge security breach
so but when you go back to why the body scanners were implemented like an in-zone pocket that's
like silver or something oh so it has to be a type of material?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
And you can carry anything through.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
But I mean, the reason that the body scanners were implemented in the first place is because
Michael Chertoff was tied up with Rapiscan, which is also the name of the body scanner,
right?
Rapiscan.
Is it really?
Rapiscan, but I call it Rapiscan.
Imagine if that really was the name, and then they brought it, and the government was scanner, right? Rapiscan. Is it really? Rapiscan, but I call it Rapiscan. Imagine if that really was the name
and then they brought it
and the government was like,
really?
And like, yep,
that's what we named it.
Do we have to name it?
Well, listen, I got a patent.
It's the Rapiscan.
I got a patent.
I'm not changing the fucking name.
I'm just adamant.
Some crazy multimillionaire guy
who just was nuts.
So yeah, this guy was running the DHS
and he was tied up with
the lobbying firm and and profiting off these body scanners and so they just put them in all
the airports and they don't even really work even israel the israeli government was like we're not
going to use those because they don't work like they're not going to stop terrorism so they're
totally pointless uh it's just like a money-making scam wow Wow. Yeah. Well, but here's the question.
Before 9-11, they did something, right?
You went through radar detectors.
You went through just the regular metal detectors.
Right.
And they x-rayed your luggage?
No.
I don't know.
I think they did.
Yeah.
I feel like they did.
Didn't they?
Yeah.
Seems like they did.
Yeah, they did.
So between then and now, it's just gotten more complicated?
Is that what the idea is?
Well, they just want to dehumanize us as much as possible to make flying the worst fucking thing in the world.
So now you have to take off your shoes.
The liquid thing is completely absurd.
That was based on something that was totally, it wasn't fake, but it was like these mentally unstable people who were trying to mix liquid explosives.
It wasn't even going to work.
It was like totally pointless.
They weren't even able to do it.
So then they just punish everyone by making everyone put little liquids in bags and it's just ridiculous.
Maybe they found like a proof of concept after that that like, yeah, somebody could go on with a shampoo bottle full with C4 that looks like conditioner.
And now you can't bring snow globes on.
Snow globes?
I just saw that in a little snow globe.
Those little things that you shake like a paperweight?
I didn't.
Was there a snow globe terrorist that I missed?
Like someone trying to.
Listen, if someone was coming at me and they were trying to get crazy, I could fuck you
up with a snow globe.
Imagine a pitcher, a really good baseball pitcher and a snow globe.
Oh my God.
You're a dead man.
He's going to kill you with that thing.
It could be used as a weapon.
But now the TSA is actually taking it so fucking far, man.
I just saw this video where this woman comes back from her trip.
She gets her car, and there's a little note in her car that says,
TSA inspected your car while you were gone.
Yeah, I saw that, too.
Apparently, it's a local jurisdiction thing.
It's not a TSA thing.
It's a local security for the parking lot.
Really?
And the TSA in various districts, I think, has very different ways of approaching these types of situations.
But if they choose to for some reason, I think it was like a valet car.
She valeted her car.
And for whatever reason, they chose to search it. There's just like no warning. I think what they're saying is it's not a valet car. She valeted her car. And for whatever reason, they chose to search it.
But I don't think what they're saying is it's not a TSA policy.
I think that was the response to it, that it wasn't a TSA policy,
that it was a local thing that someone did.
So it's not something they plan on doing.
But it could have been something they were like testing the waters,
and then people freak out.
And then they're like, we ain't even doing that.
After the woman complained, they were like, no, no, no, we have a sign up. And she's like, that sign wasn't here before. It're like, we ain't even doing that. After the woman complained,
they were like,
no, no, no,
we have a sign up
and she's like,
that sign wasn't here before.
It's like,
we're going to inspect your car.
Oh, did she say that?
That totally didn't exist.
Oh, wow.
Well, I want to know
who to believe there.
That gets weird.
Right.
I wish I knew.
Yeah.
But still,
even if there's a sign,
if you're not told,
hey, we're going to search your car.
You got to be real specific
about that.
You can't just have a sign.
Oh, I might look through your shit. Yeah. You yeah you're like oh you didn't read everything in this entire
office before you gave the valet dude your keys yeah i might steal your change sorry
i left the sign tsa is just so i mean it's it's grown so much it's such a waste of money i just
think i mean we have what what have we done really with the TSA? Well, the argument I would say, I don't disagree with you, but the argument I would say if I was, you know, doing the counterpoint was like, think of how many lives we've saved.
Think how many terrorist attacks were stopped.
Think how many people did not try things because they thought they would never get through the infinite matrix that is the TSA.
That's all hypotheticals.
Is there any proof that we've stopped anything?
You're right.
You're right.
It is hypotheticals. Is there any proof? You're right. You're right. It is hypotheticals. But at a certain point
in time, you know, is it hypothetical
that if you didn't have vitamin C, you would get
scurvy? See where I'm going with this?
I'm not going anywhere, folks.
Relax. I don't believe a word I'm saying.
I hear you. I know
what you're saying. But I think that
there should probably be
some form of security
just with the reality of the world that we live in.
I don't fucking trust people that much.
I don't trust people to...
I just feel like if there was no security at all,
I would have to have a lot more faith in our society.
Let's go back to what it was before.
It was totally fine.
What is it before, though?
Do you know the specifics?
Yeah, I don't know if it was like...
It wasn't a private contractor.
I mean, I think it was government agents, but it was just very,
it wasn't like a huge multi-billion dollar wasteful agency that was just like.
Is it just one of those things where, and I'm obviously not a politician,
nor do I really even understand politics,
but is it one of those things where when jobs get created and a business gets created, it behooves them to enhance that business and spread that business and make that business larger?
Whether that business is Chick-fil-A or that business is the TSA.
Once it's an actual business, so it's not a government agency.
It's a business.
It's a private business.
That's where things are always going to get weird.
Because as soon as you can profit, and it's not just the state profits. It's a private business. That's where things are always going to get weird because as soon as you can profit
and like it's not just the state profits
no no no. Individuals
profit and they have motivation
and then they also can have things called
lobbyists and they can spend a shit
load of money to try to get laws pushed by
that make their business more profitable
and make more. What?
That's crazy. That's where it gets crazy.
Well you can't differentiate anymore between the corporatists and the actual government employees so That's crazy. That's where it gets crazy. Well, you can't differentiate anymore
between the corporatists
and the actual government employees,
so it's hard to tell.
It sounds like you're calling for socialism now.
You fucking call me.
That's what I'm hearing.
I'm hearing a bunch of fucking anti-capitalist nonsense.
Why?
If it wasn't for capitalism,
which is so true,
if it wasn't for capitalism,
we wouldn't have shit.
Communism doesn't work.
You can't get people to work unless you give them a reward. If you want
cool shit, you want a Samsung phone, you want to be able to watch TV on a big screen, it's flat,
you get it. Someone's going to make that. Okay. You're not going to do it. And capitalism is the
only way that shit gets done. If the whole world is communist and socialist, that stuff doesn't
probably get made. Why are those are only two options though my question because i think there's a lot of flaws in capitalism too you're
so right what we need i think is some sort of moralism capitalism you know not just not not
capitalism not communism but moralism ethicalism and something where it's just like can't we figure
this out it seems like this can all be worked out. Like, we don't have to, like, live, like, one person has to die so that all may live.
Like, it's 2013 already, people.
That's what kills me.
Like, I see the potential that we have, and we're just fucking squandering it.
Yeah.
It's like, what the fuck?
We know that we can have clean energy.
We know that we can have this.
We know that we can live compatibly and harmoniously, like, with the earth,
but we're just fucking raping, pillaging shit.
I mean, I think
it's a flaw in capitalism
to see what happens. Monopolies
form and then it buys out governments.
Is it a flaw, though?
Or is it almost like a built-in
mechanism designed to encourage
movement? It's almost
like the way that things
really get done is you need some incredibly
greedy fucks. But if this is the trend
that's designed within capitalism, then isn't
that fucked? Yes, it's definitely fucked.
But the question is, is it
this way because this is the
most efficient way to move
this thing forward? This is the most
efficient way to continue to produce
new technological innovations
to continue to push
our ability to access information,
whether it's willingly given up through the internet or whether they're watching your
cell phones, that all of it is kind of connected.
Well, it's interesting because we hear a lot, you need reward, you need value, you need
people competing, and that otherwise you won't have innovation, you won't have these
new technologies.
But I look at it, we had innovations 20 years ago that cars could run on water, but the car industry bought out this patent.
And you see this across the board.
So we actually see technologies being stifled because of the capitalist model that we live in, this vulture capitalism where they're monopolizing all these industries and preventing technology from arising.
So that water car thing is totally true.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I had heard about that.
And the electric car.
Remember who killed the electric car?
Yes.
I heard about the water thing on Opie and Anthony.
They were talking about how the guy who created it died of a heart attack,
and he had a meeting with two men, and he ran out of the restaurant screaming,
they poisoned me, and then died of a heart attack.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Yeah. See if you guys can find that story because uh opie and anthony were talking about it it sounded like
a fucking scene in a movie like the guy like yelled they poisoned me and ran out and had a
either heart attack or a stroke i can't remember my memory shit uh but it's um my memory is actually
excellent for a human but there's just too much to remember
yeah that's true i think i think that we can reinvent the wheel here i think that we can
advance humanity and our collective consciousness to a point where we can like figure out a different
way instead of reverting back to these old paradigms of like communism or capitalism in
the way that we know i mean can, can't we recreate something? We
know what exists. We have the ability to
intercommunicate within the entire planet.
The technology's growing
exponentially. I just think that we can do
better than what we've seen.
I think you're totally right. I think we
need to learn, as human beings,
we need to learn how to manage our
humanity. And there's a
lot of things that we're going to have to take into consideration when you start talking about that kind of stuff.
And one of them is that people have a desire for competition.
They just do.
They always have.
And that has to be quelled in some form, whether you should take up a game that you enjoy or get involved in sports or in martial arts are a good example or some form
of discipline that allows you to like blow off energy and blow off this competitive design that
you have inside of you that sort of has allowed human beings to get to this point in the first
place i mean we didn't survive for tens of thousands of years because we weren't intent
on survival at all costs and one of And one of the costs is competition.
It's a part of what's made us a human being.
It's a part of why we're here.
And I think that when people get involved in anything,
whether it's a corporate thing or whether it's a competition in a game or a team,
there's this desire to do better
than those you're competing against.
Like, if you talk to people that are business people,
and they'll talk about their competitors.
We're fucking kicking it right down their throat.
They're, like, very aggressive about shit.
When you get guys alone,
they start talking about how well
they're doing against the competition.
You know, they close down three of their stores,
and, like, they start getting, like,
real excited about conquering shit.
And it's that mimicked this genetic thing, thing i think that's like almost been incorporated into our
our dna because it's been so responsible for getting people to this point like you have to
crack eggs in order to make an omelet there had to be a bunch of crazy shit to get us to rise from
apes with sticks to driving a car and to do it all so fast it there had to be a
lot of chaos involved in doing that but we should be able to recognize that now and go whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa okay everybody catch your breath it took us a long fucking time to get here
but let's look at why we got here this is what this is what motivated us you see all You see all this? We just wanted to breed, wanted to make sure we have children, make sure that we
stop the barbarian hordes from coming over from the next town over. If we can just all agree to
not be fuckheads, none of that's going to happen. We can all talk now. Okay. This isn't like you
speak German and I don't understand Dutch and he's Chinese. No, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody
pretty knows what the fuck, pretty much knows what the fuck everybody else is saying. So everybody just chill.
Can we agree to chill?
Okay, let's chill.
Now let's figure out this fucking resource thing.
There's a natural resource thing that it seems like is all of ours.
Why do other people get to keep that?
And how come the people that get to keep that keep wanting to go to war and control shit?
I know it sounds a little radical,
but maybe you guys are kind of being cunts
by controlling all the oil. Isn't it the
Earth's? Aren't you sucking it out of
holes in the ground? Like, what?
It's fucking fascinating that we're just wasting
all of this magical resource
that takes billions of years to
compound in the Earth, and we're just blowing it.
We're just fucking blowing it. But it makes for awesome
cars. It does, but we need to save it.
Yeah, it's a stupid thing.
I've said before that I think what they're going to do is eventually come up with some sort of a bacteria that eats carbon dioxide in the air.
And they're going to release it like a moth, like a colony of moss in the air.
It's going to chew through all the pollution.
Then it's going to mutate.
The chemtrails.
Yeah, but then it's going to mutate.
Don't bring up chemtrails, please.
Please don't bring up chemtrails.
Chemtrail believers, I love you.
I feel you.
I probably could have been one of you.
Right.
Okay, but I read a couple of articles along the way.
I'm not a fucking geoengineer,
and I'm not a New World Order person either.
I'm not the Illuminati.
Stop.
Well, I just haven't met one.
I haven't seen one pilot who's, I mean, if they were spraying
chemicals on us and the government was doing this around
the world every day, don't you think that
some pilot would have come out and said, like,
I don't know. Yo. You know,
who knows? Why would he spray his own family?
You know, and like... Yeah, it's a very
nonspecific way to poison the world.
We're already getting enough poison.
I don't... But it has been done.
The thing about...
Right.
Yeah.
Dropping stuff from planes has been done.
And in fact, there was a recent article that was just published about these tests that
they did.
I want to say...
I should look it up.
But it was...
They were spraying radioactive waste from planes.
Yeah.
They've done a bunch of crazy shit.
Yeah, I mean.
Geoengineering experiments and cloud seeding.
So there is like geoengineering happening in the works.
But it's not to the extent of what people think.
Yeah, I mean, look, it's always they.
Like they, they, they.
And I was just about to say, yeah, they gave the Tuskegee experiment.
They gave those guys syphilis or allowed them to have syphilis and not treat them.
This is all like that they thing is a real problem because it's not they're not all part of the same group.
It's people that are cunts.
That's what it is.
It's assholes that have done something wrong.
And if they're in a position of government, it's always they.
It's like they have done this.
Yeah.
Someone just asked me last night.
They said, you know, do you believe in the New World Order, the Illuminati and stuff?
And I said, well, I think that it's giving them too much credit.
It's also taking away people's agency to be like, there's this, you know, unknowable group controlling everything behind the shadows.
It's like, no, we know who these motherfuckers are.
They're hidden in plain sight.
It's the board of directors of all the most powerful corporations in the world.
I mean, these are the people who are running shit.
This is a fact, okay, that in the
1950s, and this is
often Yahoo News, this is
widely reported throughout the
internet, which means everything.
I don't know if it's true.
I don't know if it's true. I'm not a researcher.
Yeah, yeah, we've got one there.
Bam, we're like genies here.
James is a genie.
This woman says that she lost her baby when her father died.
She was a baby, rather, when her father died inexplicably in 1955,
and she watched four siblings die of cancer,
and she survived cervical cancer upon learning that the Army conducted secret chemical tests
in her impoverished St. Louis neighborhood in the height of the Cold War.
She wonders if her own government is to blame. In the mid-1950s, and again a decade later,
the Army used motorized blowers atop low-income housing and high-rise at schools and from the
backs of station wagons to send a potentially dangerous compound into the already hazy air Wow.
Holy shit. were a part of a biological weapons program, and St. Louis was chosen because it bore some resemblance to Russian cities that the U.S. might attack.
Holy shit.
The materials being sprayed was zinc, cadmium, sulfide,
a fine fluorescent powder.
Oh, my God.
That's horrible.
That's so scary.
There's just no accountability for any of this shit that's happened.
I'm sure these people got, like, a very little payout, but they just watched all their family die. It's so scary. It's just no accountability for any of this shit that's happened. I'm sure these people got a very little payout,
but they just watched all their family die.
It's so scary. It's terrible.
What about Monsanto? But here's the thing
for the Chemstro folks. This is
real. This is real, and
when you're looking at
a lot of things that may or may
not be what you think they
are, it's really important to
find out what is real.
It's really important. And out what is real, right?
It's really important.
And if you're not sure if something is just a jet engine creating an artificial cloud because it's passing through condensation, or if it's the government spraying you, if
you call one or the other, it becomes a problem for all of the information.
Absolutely.
It dilutes the real argument, which is the fact that there's thousands of tons of, or even just the jet fuel of just planes in general.
And there was a study done after 9-11, which is really fascinating.
And it's kind of funny because it was in CNN.
This was long before the chemtrail thing either.
It's a CNN article from 2002.
And it was talking about how the temperature shifted because of the fact that there was no contrails in the sky.
And that these contrails, and it referred to them as the artificial clouds created by jet planes, that these contrails had been cooling the Earth. The difference was
a couple of degrees. I don't know how the fuck
they can tell whether or not that couple of degrees
variance is just natural, because things
vary all the time as far as temperature.
But in this article, they were trying to
attribute it to the fact that there was no contrails
in the sky, which is fascinating.
That's crazy. I mean, to me, there's no causal
connection to the heavy metals, corrosive metals found in the sky, which is fascinating. That's crazy. I mean, to me, there's no causal connection to the heavy metals, corrosive metals found
in the water than it is to spraying.
I mean, we have no connection at all.
And that's like the only evidence people can keep showing me is they're just like, look
at, you know, barium and aluminum is found in the water.
And I'm like, dude, we're fucking polluting the whole earth.
I mean, water is cyclical.
Like, I don't.
Yeah, it's well, it's weird.
It's what we worry about is weird because the chemtrails if the government really was spraying something that is something we should worry about
but stop what are the effects i don't feel anything if they are really doing this on a
regular basis is they just cooling the water what is exactly going on now let's stop and look at the
shit that we're not paying attention to.
We're pumping raw sewage into the ocean.
People are just shitting into the ocean.
There's boats that are burning diesel fuel.
There's other boats with giant nets that are killing every fucking fish within its,
whatever stretch they've got these goddamn killer nets set up for,
just sucking fish out of it, throwing plastic in there.
There's a gigantic patch.
The Great Pacific Garbage Patch.
There's one in the Great Lakes, too.
There's one in every body of fucking water, dude.
Oh, my God, it's so crazy.
I saw this TED Talk from this woman talking about plastic,
and she was saying 20 years ago this research team went out
fucking hundreds of miles away from the Great Pacific Garbage Patch,
and the fish that they were fishing full of plastic particles
And also this guy went down to the bottom of the ocean
Where they were and it was covered in plastic bags, and this was 20 years ago. Can you imagine?
How it is now. I mean this is the shit that we should be concerned exactly
It's it's so this st. Louis story for the chemtrail folks. Here's one in your in your corner. This is real
Okay, this is real. So you
are right to distrust any people that could be in a position of power that could possibly profit
from doing something that could harm people. You're absolutely right to be paranoid about that.
That's not what I say when I talk about these things. I just think it's really important to
be aware of exactly what's happening. Yeah, it's the same thing with fluoride.
I think fluoride is horrible and it shouldn't be in drinking water.
But the thing is it's been kind of hijacked into this conspiracy theory that says it's this vast mind control thing and trying to give everyone brain damage.
And Hitler used it on the Jews and stuff.
First of all, that's not true.
There's no evidence to back that up.
But also it's like, no, it's just a phosphate mineral byproduct that we're just pouring in the water supplies.
Like that's what we should be concerned about, that there's a waste product being sold to municipalities and just fucking toxifying our water.
But isn't the idea that people who use fluorated, fluorided, what is it?
Fluoridated.
Fluoridated.
That doesn't sound right.
Fluoridated sounds wrong.
Fluoridated water have better teeth?
Like that they have better teeth like that there's actually the ada did an extensive study uh about a decade ago that showed that it was just better hygiene
overall that just showed that people just had better hygiene overall really there's no difference
between fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas whoa really so really just topically applying
fluoride yes that is you know that helps with tooth decay. But ingesting it, we're already getting it when we shower, when we cook.
Like, why are we drinking it, too?
It just doesn't.
So the idea was that the water having fluoride in it would help with tooth decay as well as does it do anything else?
Does it kill anything off?
And that's the thing.
It's not even fluoride.
It's this thing called hexafluorosilicic acid.
And it's just a fucking fertilizer byproduct.
It's just this old school collusion between the fertilizer industry and the water industry.
And it's just based on a huge propaganda campaign that's saying that fluoride is good for your teeth.
And we just kind of still believe it.
It's bizarre.
There's so many other countries in the world that do not do that at all.
Wow.
Well, have you ever had real spring water, like right from a Colorado well?
I just had distilled water for the first time.
It tastes like fucking snow.
You've got to be careful with distilled water.
What is the deal?
It doesn't have any minerals in it.
Because it leaches them?
It's for humidifiers.
It leaches them?
It's for humidifiers.
Yeah, there's a process.
There's a process.
I don't know.
I shouldn't say it takes out all the minerals, but I think it takes out most of them.
It's like magnetized.
Yeah.
My friend Aubrey actually had a problem because he was drinking it on a regular basis.
He wasn't aware of the consequences of not having enough minerals.
And he started getting like his heart was beating too fast.
He was kind of freaking out.
He had an electrolyte imbalance.
And it was because he was drinking distilled water all the time.
People think that salt is bad for you.
Salt is essential.
Look, if you eat a pound of it, you're dead.
But salt is a huge part of what it is to be a human being.
You need it.
That's why they used to go to war for that shit.
They used to have salt wars.
People would kill people for all their salt.
Isn't that fucking crazy?
My friend swears
on distilled water.
He drinks it every day
and he's been doing it
for like six months
and he says it's great.
Well, the idea is
if you take it
with like some Himalayan salt,
something that has
a lot of minerals in it,
or some,
as long as he supplements
with minerals,
maybe he'll be okay.
Mm-hmm.
But Aubrey,
I mean, he went to a doctor
and the doctor told him, like, you have an imbalance here, son.
What the fuck are you doing?
What are you doing?
Why are you drinking a dill-celled water?
The water that you put in irons.
Yeah, what are you, a humidifier?
Humidifier is a funny word.
Yeah, that's, you got to be careful.
But yeah, the fluoride thing is just one of those things that no one will even address.
They're like, oh, what do you think, fluoride's bad too?
You're like, well.
No, you just should really.
You're right.
Even if it's good.
I just don't want to be mass medicated against my will.
Like, why do we need this in our water?
Right.
And it's also, I'm sure it probably does some weird shit to your skin too.
Yeah.
Hot water with fluoride in it.
Well, when you get an excess of fluoride, it gives you fluorosis, which eats away the enamel of your teeth.
So you see the yellow fucking like, yeah.
So it's the opposite.
Yeah, it actually. And so think about what that's doing to your bones if you get an excess of
fluoride oh i never thought so okay is this hippie bullshit no dude that's really funny though the
way you said that no dude that's exactly what someone who's telling hippie bullshit says no bro
come on cuz come on jerry yo dude i read that shit on
glenn beck's website i swear i saw on the internet it's legit as fuck son they're coming for us
they're fluoridating our water i heard abby martin talk bad knowledge about that on rt
lots of research dog lots of research dog government is it is it one of those things
where like someone just started getting paid for bringing fluoride,
and then the fluoride is just a part of life now?
Yeah, the aluminum industry needed to get rid of their byproducts.
They launched this propaganda campaign.
This was in the 50s, and it was just this old-school thing that we didn't really understand
that we can just have better hygiene by brushing our teeth now.
It was like, yeah, people did have fucked-up teeth.
How do they purify water like when like if if they use what do they use they use chlorine or something like that what chemicals they use to purify it from
the phosphate mining so they they take it and they just like they capture the water that's escaping
in these giant scrubbers and then they just sell it like i don't fucking know what they do to
purify it i hope to god that they're doing something to purify it.
No, I mean, I'm sorry.
I should rephrase.
What I meant was when if you, like, say if you get water out of the faucet.
Yeah.
Like, you go to this faucet right now and get a glass of water.
They're doing something to that water, right?
What do they do?
Is it purification?
Chlorine?
Chlorine.
Well, we should ask, right?
We should, like, Google this real quick.
Well, what's crazy is I just had this interesting thing with Nestle
where they sent us this lawsuit threat.
They're basically threatening to sue us
because I criticized their monopolization over the water supply
and how they're trying to privatize water.
Who's trying to do this? Nestle? Is that what it is?
I read that.
I didn't even want to actually read the quote
because somebody sent it to me on Twitter.
And I looked at it and I was like, I don't even want to read that.
That's just so insane.
I just want to be bummed out by this dude.
It's crazy, dude. The ex-CEO, Peter Brabeck, he's still highly influential at the company.
But he came out and said, it's a food stuff like any other. It should be applied to market price.
We should basically just privatize all the water in the world.
That's so crazy.
And he was like, if you think water is a human right, you're an extremist.
I was like, that's fucking great.
And every single water bottle.
Wait a minute, did he really say that?
Yeah.
This is probably Nestle.
No, this isn't Nestle.
But seriously, every single bottled water I've seen is Nestle.
And it's terrifying.
It's terrifying what they're doing.
They take it during droughts.
Yeah, that guy is fucking cracked.
He needs a hug.
That's ridiculous. Yeah. What a crazy way of Yeah. He needs a hug. That's ridiculous.
Yeah.
What a crazy way of looking at the world, son.
That's like, so he wants to treat water like oil, essentially.
He wants to fucking, what's next, air?
Monopolize it.
Yeah.
Well, we're trying to do that.
Wasn't someone trying to-
Didn't China actually sell cans of air?
Yes.
Wow.
They do in a hotel in Seattle, remember?
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's actually oxygen, yeah.
Yeah.
It's like pick-me-up. Like, people think that, like, you ever go to actually oxygen, yeah. Yeah. It's like pick-me-up.
Like, people think that, like, you ever go to the oxygen bar?
They have, like, those pick-me-up bars.
Yeah.
I used to have those.
I went to one once, didn't do jack shit.
Yeah, I felt, I didn't feel anything.
I sat there and twos my nose, feeling an idiot.
I was like, well, I just paid 20 bucks to just, like, inhale oxygen.
It gives you heightened awareness.
I think just thinking.
So can eating a carrot.
I think just thinking that you eating a carrot I think just thinking
that you're doing something
that gives you heightened awareness
heightens your awareness
because you're like cognizant of it
like yeah I'm going to really focus
on this oxygen coming in
You talk about so much
is the placebo effect
because this is something
that's fucking nuts
the fact that we can heal things
with our body
and people just dismiss it
and they're like
oh that's just the placebo effect
you're like that's so fucking crazy
that's way crazier
than like having medicine
that does this like what? Yeah you're totally right you should be cultivating this so much what also it really
begs the question what is what is the state of our body based on is it based on confidence and
feeling and thoughts and the the kind of like ideas that you cultivate or is it actually based
on genetics and disease like How much is which way?
When all of a sudden someone can cure something because they think that they –
I don't know how many instances where that actually takes place.
The placebo effect might be gravely exaggerated.
I don't know.
I don't know how much has actually been done placebo style,
but I know that it's big enough that it's occurred enough times where it's documentable.
People can refer to it as an actual situation.
There's a placebo effect that actually does happen.
So what's going on there?
I don't know.
I think that it needs to be cultivated way more and studied way more.
It's just funny that it's kind of this weird thing in science.
You're like, oh, it's just a placebo.
Have you thought about what that means, though?
Because that's fucking nuts.
It's just a placebo.
It's like, have you thought about what that means, though?
Because that's fucking nuts.
It's also, it makes you wonder what exactly is really shaping this world.
Like, how much of what's shaping this world is thoughts?
And how much of it is circumstance?
And how much of it is just random occurrences?
How much are you steering this thing with your thoughts?
When you find out that you can fix something that you didn't think you could fix because someone told you they gave you a pill that fixes it, then all of a sudden you fix it.
Well, think about what stress does to you.
It can totally debilitate you. It's crazy.
It's bad for you.
That's thoughts.
You make shitty decisions.
You do rash things.
You yell at people that you shouldn't.
You're like, ah!
It builds up.
Yeah.
It's terrible. It's terrible. It's! It builds up. Yeah, it's terrible.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
It's awful.
But it's weird.
I saw this documentary about water,
and there was this Japanese scientist
who put different feelings in different bottles of water,
glasses of water, and they had different particles.
Yeah, he froze it.
It's been debunked.
Yeah, okay.
Apparently.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We'd have to get a debunker on.
Right.
But then the debunker would get all sorts of hate mail, and they would never want to come back again.
That's what happens when you debunk things, man.
You see this Nick West, the guy who was the debunker on our show?
He runs metabunk.com.
He debunks everything.
Anything that he finds out what's bullshit about something and debunks it.
And he's right a staggering amount of times.
And this guy, his timeline is just hate.
Oh, just people hate.
Hate.
On Twitter, people hate when you debunk their shit.
Hate.
They're so invested in JFK.
So invested in everything.
Whether it's Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone
or whether it's fucking conspiracy
from the grassy knoll, whatever it is.
So is this guy super anti-conspiracy?
Does he really take it like you do?
Where you're like, I will look at everything
and really sort through it.
Or is he just like, I'm going to debunk the main points?
He's a debunker.
He likes calling people on
conspiracies that are bullshit.
Even if he's wrong.
I don't know if he's right all the time, but it's pretty obvious his trend is
to debunk things.
But along the way, I got to say, one of the things that I've learned about this television
show is the psychological effect of wanting to believe in something.
And the similar attributes that I find in almost everyone who believes in something
that can't be proven. There's very, very, very similar attributes. There's in almost everyone who believes in something that can't be proven.
There's very, very, very similar attributes. There's a very similar mindset.
But when, yeah, I agree. But when I look at something like, you know, 9-11,
I know what isn't logical and it's what they've told us has happened.
Yeah.
So it's like, I don't know what happened, but I know what didn't happen.
So what about that?
That's one that always comes up.
You know, whenever someone believes in something that's odd,
there's always the, what about Tower 7 discussion?
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, there you go.
That's the discussion.
And people in 2013, they're almost like, Jesus Christ,
it's 12 years of fucking Tower 7.
Can't do it anymore, buddy.
Can't.
I got to tap out.
No more Tower 7 talk.
Right, right, right.
We can't fix that thing.
It's gone. Tower 7's gone gone let's concentrate on bigfoot no it's um yeah there's a um there's a reality to the world right there's a reality and then there's a trying to decipher reality from looking at the
past whether the past is five minutes ago whether the past is five minutes ago, whether the past is two hours ago.
When you're dealing with something monumental like 9-11, you're going to have a lot of noise.
There's going to be so much information, good and real and bad and distorted and crazy and
sane and logical and cryptic.
There's going to be a lot of shit going on.
So you look at any catastrophic situation
like towers falling and people dying
and you're going to have a lot of craziness.
So you're going to have a lot
of shit that doesn't jive and you're going to have a lot
of shit that also leans towards
conspiracy. Then
it's also the possibility of conspiracy.
And that's what people
don't like to think. They don't like
to think that it's not an either or.
And that you don't know.
You don't unless you were there.
Can't be sure.
Why is conspiracy a bad?
It's been turned into a pejorative where it just shuts down the debate.
It's amazing, really.
Yeah, it is.
That was actually a deliberate effort by the CIA.
Was it really?
Yeah.
They're so badass.
I wish they were nice.
I wish I could support the CIA. Was it really? They're so badass. I wish they were nice. I wish I could support the CIA.
Because they're so badass in so many ways.
They could figure out how to fucking engineer
human consciousness so they could just make
conspiracy think dopey.
Oh, you got a conspiracy theory?
Yeah, what, like the Gulf of Tonkin?
What, like the Northwoods document?
They could just rattle off a bunch of real shit.
It's really like
what about Enron? That's a conspiracy
that conspired. People got together.
It happens all the time. It's part of what makes people
fucking group into little huts.
They get together. They have little tribes.
These motherfuckers got gold.
They're right over there. They sleep at night.
Let's go get them. They happen all the time.
I love the CIA just for the record.
For the record, the record i don't
i like them individually as human beings i hope they're nice but as a group i'm not willing to
trust them unless i meet them that's all i'm saying yeah remember when they're all just like
the tsa mk ultra shit yeah so let me ask you this and this is the fucking elephant in the room when
it comes to uh journalism because you're you you're a journalist you're
like an official journalist right legit and you are also not afraid to talk your mind whatever
it is you speak your mind about various controversial subjects and then you see this
michael hastings thing do you go oh boy if you don't know the story tell me okay so michael
hastings an amazing journalist,
one of the last real investigative journalists that we have.
He'd go on the corporate media and just fucking destroy.
He'd just completely make everyone look like idiots.
Well, he was very aggressive, too.
Very aggressive, but you could tell he was just exasperated
with the mentality that he was surrounded by
whenever he'd, like all these Obama apologists and stuff,
when he would go and argue.
And he was embedded in Afghanistan for a while and actually did a report in the Rolling Stone about Stanley McChrystal,
which was the commanding general of the Afghanistan war that totally exposed his ass, ended up getting him fired.
And when you get a general who's commanding a war fired, you need to look out.
Like, you need to fucking watch your back.
And so, I mean, he got death threats at the time.
Months later, his car driving like 100 miles an hour down a fucking residential street in LA,
and it just explodes.
Why the fuck would you be driving that fast?
Nothing about it makes sense.
He had just written a letter to his friends and family
hours before he died saying,
I have to go off the radar, the FBI's
investigating me, watch out, they're gonna come talk to you.
It doesn't mean
that it was the government who killed him, it doesn't mean
that it's some giant conspiracy. My
view is that you get a
commanding general fired and he knows fucking
people, he knows security contractors,
private firms that can fucking
take you out. If you embarrass
someone, I mean mean this shit happens
this is a hit
I don't know what
happened to that guy
but it sure looks like it
I mean if you wanted to
look at a movie scene
it's like a perfect
movie scene
it is
in a James Bond film
of a political assassination
yep
and it really is
the door is locked
the steering wheel
starts turning towards
a tree
you're like
ahhh
are your cars connected
to it
the celery is going
I'm out
shut up bitch why would I explain that on the air I think all new cars Turning towards a tree. You're like, ah! Are your cars connected to it? Celery is going. No, I'm out. Shut up, bitch.
Why would I explain that on the air?
I think get an old car.
Everybody get an old car.
I think really all new cars can be hacked, too.
And that's what that, yeah, it's fucking nuts.
Well, that's what I read afterwards.
Some guy who worked for Clinton and for Herbert Walker Bush was describing how it's absolutely possible.
I don't know if it was him.
Was that him?
Richard Clark, which I thought was strange in itself that this guy would come out and
be like, it looks like a car hacking to me.
You're like, you're a fucking government insider.
It was just strange.
I didn't know why he.
I think the people in the old guard probably don't exactly like how shit is just so loosey
goosey with the murders these days.
You know, they're like, hey, hey. Tighten that shit up.
We didn't use to fucking kill reporters like this, guys.
Jesus.
So fucking security cameras everywhere.
Well, Wood and Bernstein, still alive.
Well, basically.
Did one of them die recently?
I don't know.
Wilbur or Bernstein.
But, I mean, if you're asking if I'm afraid, no, absolutely not.
I mean, if they're, you know, you can't live in fear.
I'm scared and I know you.
I don't even like being in the room with you for three hours.
The drone comes and fucking goes. Oh, how oh how scary is that yeah it's fucking terrifying i wrote
something down today uh as a joke but it was about um this fucking meat that they're creating now
out of human shit no no no no that's that's exciting no there was a a meat that they're
they're they made synthetic meat.
And I was just... What? Yes, yes.
And I was just...
They figured out how to clone cow meat.
They took some cow meat
and without actually increasing the amount
of cows in the room, they increased the meat.
They just put it in some sort of a test tube.
It cost hundreds of thousands of dollars,
but they made like a cheeseburger
out of this weird meat.
Sign me up.
And I wrote that today's fake meat is tomorrow's fake person.
Solar powered, programmed by the state, reading minds and writing tickets for bad thoughts.
Like that's really possible, right?
Like one day we could easily be in a world where we have robot people just wandering around enforcing the rules of a corrupt elite.
A bunch of old dudes with fucking
wires coming out of their body,
barely hanging on, just
evil, keeping them in the game,
waiting for life extension technology,
just hanging in there with robots running around.
We're so close to actual thought
crime, it's not even funny, with the NSA,
just surveillance of everyone, blanket
data mining, and then this retroactive
prosecution, the ability to
retroactively prosecute you if you fucking say something today 10 years from now they can dredge
that up and be like you said this 10 years ago and wrongfully accuse you of something and pull up all
this evidence over the course of your digital life and use it against you and that's another
really scary aspect it's not even just the chilling effect that quells dissent and makes
people not want to speak out as much it's that too right and that's scary yeah that's very scary that's it's all very scary it's it's we're
we're in such strange times because if someone feels like they have the right to just look at
everything you're doing all the time like where are we what are we doing like we're not even
america anymore it's not america when everyone can just have their email looked at.
And did you read the shit that David Seaman put on his page today?
What?
About how they're using it.
The DEA is using it now.
They're using the information to catch drug dealers.
They're using the information to catch people selling weed.
I mean, it's not just a national security concern thing.
This is information that's being distributed to other people. So they're not, it's not just a national security concern thing. This is information
that's being distributed to other people. So they're bypassing normal like protocol
for catching criminals and just fucking. Well, what's really crazy. Yes, you're right. But
what's really crazy is that he said that this is what's get, it was really weird is that
the NSA is giving your phone records to the DEA and they're telling the DEA is talking about how to
cover it up and to conduct a fake investigation to acquire that information to back engineer
your discovery and then going back and acquiring enough evidence post knowledge of the crime to
you know like that they're actually going to create a fake investigation. Well, so that they hide the fact that they got this information from the NSA.
Right, right.
Like, oh man, that seems...
Sounds like a lot of work.
Well, it doesn't just seem like a lot of work.
It seems like you're lying.
Right.
Like you should, yeah, there should be some laws in this world, but there also should
be some nobility to the people that are enforcing those laws.
And one of them is you shouldn't be allowed to lie ever. Okay? Lying's not good. Stop doing that. So if you're not lying,
how much of this actually happens? Well, none. Because people go, wait a minute, wait a minute,
wait a minute. The DEA gets the fucking records too? Okay, where do you draw the line? What
if someone's giving a friend a bottle of Xanax because their prescription ran out?
And it's all able to be hacked. So The line really isn't drawn anywhere when you have
foreign governments or entities that could hack
into this shit and then use it.
Who knows?
It's going to be
out there. Everything's going to be out there.
They're just slowly
trying to stop it.
They're still lying. They're like, oh no, it's just the metadata.
It's just the metadata. And you're like, no dude
because the storage center in Utah or whatever that you're storing this,
like the metadata would only account for like a fucking eighth of that information that's stored in there.
And you're already building other ones.
So what the hell else is the rest of it?
Obviously, it's everything just recorded and stored.
Obviously.
It's amazing that anybody would think that's a good idea.
Right.
It's really amazing that anybody would say yeah this is what
people are gonna go for this this is a good then they're not gonna feel like
they're imprisoned at all no it's not a prison stay it's just we want to make
sure that everybody listens yeah can't have that much that kind of power crazy
fucks can't well look what the FBI is doing with the entrapment cases I mean
all these like thwarted terrorist attacks in the last decade are all
mostly manufactured by the FBI.
Really? It's amazing. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's that one
that was really hilarious in Dallas
where they got this guy who was
challenged. Oh, yeah. Most of them are.
Yeah. Not a bright guy.
They talked him into it, gave him the
bomb, okay, and
told him how to detonate it. He tries to detonate it and they come
out and arrest him for a bomb that wasn't even
real.
You guys are playing make-believe.
Like, you're playing make-believe and just jacking morons.
Keep the fear alive.
I guess it's better that they take him off the street than some real Al-Qaeda dude.
And spend hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars, like, coercing some mentally unstable
person to fucking try to do something.
You gotta find those people.
That's what you gotta do.
That's horrible. I'm more for that than for the Tsa i like that i like what you're doing you're finding idiots
you're going to get them sometimes spend like years and they get paid like 100 g's these
informants and they just like work you know they go there's actually this one case of this guy in
a mosque i think i said this on the last podcast he actually scared people so much in this mosque
all these muslims who were like they actually actually called the FBI and reported him because he was trying to radicalize them so much.
It was like he was the terrorist.
And they're like, what the fuck?
This guy is here trying to, you know, rile us up.
And then they're like, oh, yeah, he's working with us.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Crazy.
Problem, reaction, solution.
Problem, reaction, solution.
One of the worst cases of undercover cops was, without a doubt in my opinion,
that the people in Florida where they were Operation D- where they were sending undercover cops to go in and pose as high school students
and try to get kids to sell them weed.
That was so sad.
And some kid actually fell in love with the girl.
Fell in love.
She was hot.
He was like 4.0.
Yeah.
She was hot. She was 25. She was like 4.0. Yeah. She was hot.
She was 25.
She was petite, so she could pass for...
Scumbag.
So rude.
And the craziest thing was, what's that podcast, This American Life?
Yeah.
They did a piece on it, and they actually interviewed her.
They spoke to her, and she was like, you know, hey, these people, they should be doing that.
They've got to watch what they're doing.
Like, you found a boy. You found a a boy and you were nice to him and you
tricked him and the boy tried to give her the weed for free he tried to get her weed because she
asked because she asked him and he gave it to her he didn't even really like yeah oh he didn't smoke
weed at all he tested negative when they when they arrested him but they uh when they asked her um
like where they were rather uh uh, when she asked him
rather to get it, he tried to give it to her for free and she insisted on giving him money
so that she could make the arrest. Wow. It's so rude. Wow. So mean. Meanwhile, here's my,
meanwhile, there's real crime going on. And this is my point. And this is, I want to say this
very clearly. Okay. Um, I'm not, I'm not a male apologist, all right?
I believe that on both sides, people should be kind.
And I think there's a competition between men and women that is rather unnecessary,
whether it's feminists and masculinists, and a lot of it is unnecessary.
But in this situation, it's very strange, because if the roles had been reversed,
the outrage would have been exponentially greater.
If a man was pretending to be a high school student and he was a super slick 25-year-old, been around the block, been driving for years.
He's got a fast car maybe.
He's got a bunch of poetry books that he reads.
And he's so different.
He's so mature.
That would be so rude.
and she's he's so different he's so mature he's so that would be so rude if you found that some 25 year old pimp cat is banging 17 year olds and arresting them for getting them weed did you
imagine how much people would be upset and they would assume that the guy fucked her assume he
fucked her you know the girl was fawning over him and next thing you know she's getting him weed for
free and he's arresting her that's so so fucking weird. You would never stand for it. No one would stand for it. But as long
as it's one of those weird
things. Whereas as long as it's
a boy getting fucked over,
even if it was a woman who conned
him and lured him in,
you are grossly... Or you don't really hear about
teachers fucking young
girl students either. You hear a lot
about women teachers having affairs
with their high school students and stuff. I never really heard
the story of the opposite happening.
It happened in my high school. Really? Yeah.
I don't want to say anymore.
He was a good dude and I knew the girl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, did you hear about that entrapment case?
This is fucking sad.
This guy just liked to gamble. He was an
optometrist.
He just had his own career,
mildly gambled $20, $100 bets with his friends.
And this FBI agent overheard him at a bar one night talking about waging a bet,
so he befriended him.
And then for the next six months or a year,
just became closer with him and closer with him,
and kept trying to up the stakes.
And basically at the end of this time frame,
he convinced the guy to bet him $2,000 in one day,
which in Virginia, that's like running a gambling operation.
So he comes in and raids his house with a SWAT team,
and the guy gets executed on accident.
There's like some trigger-happy cop
who just fucking shoots him and kills him.
So you basically turn this person into a criminal.
Not even that I think that's a criminal
to spend $2,000 on a bet.
Do whatever the fuck you want. But they shaped this person, and then. Not even that I think that's a criminal to spend $2,000 on a bet. Do whatever the fuck you want.
But they shaped this person, and then it's just so sad.
Well, this has happened so many times before.
There was a famous Rolling Stone article about a young man that was talked into selling this guy some marijuana.
And then he sold him some marijuana, and they put together some sort of coke deal.
marijuana, and then he sold them some marijuana, and they put together some sort of coke deal.
And the FBI agent completely encouraged him, set it all up, or the DEA agent, the undercover guy,
set it all up, connected the two guys together, and got this poor guy who didn't want to do anything, just slowly worked him and coerced him into this situation where he thought he was going
to make a lot of money to do this real quick. Meanwhile, there was no drug deal to be made.
It was all fake.
This guy just completely concocted the whole thing, this fucking DEA asshole.
So then this DEA asshole winds up being a complete criminal, gets kicked off the force, doesn't get prosecuted, just gets removed and done.
But who knows what he did?
He was doing drugs.
They know he tested positive for drugs.
So he was in – You've got to embed yourself. Yeah, you have to. If you want to be a part of that world, you've, who knows what he did? He was doing drugs. They know he tested positive for drugs. So he was in... You gotta embed yourself.
Yeah, you have to. If you want to be a part of that world,
you gotta do coke with them. And so
this poor fuck is in jail for the rest of his life.
This kid is just stuck. And
this was a long time ago, the article in
Rolling Stone. I don't know if he ever got out.
I don't know what the story was, but the kid was doing
essentially life in jail.
You know, they think he was a major league
cocaine dealer. They put together a major
league cocaine deal. Not really, but they did
as far as he knew.
That's good enough. Sorry, get in the box.
At any point when you're getting so close to these people
do you ever think, wow, this is
really fucked up what I'm doing.
I don't understand how these people can live with themselves.
The ones who are entrapping these people for
months and months and months and befriending them and getting
really close to them. Then they realize that they are shaping these people into become who they want them to be.
It's a fucked up thing.
It is certainly that.
It is certainly that.
It's a lack of humanity.
It's the same thing as a corporation that can pollute a river and kill a bunch of fishermen because it's easier to do that than it is to
take shit and put it in these toxic drums and ship it somewhere else we all know that's happened too
it's like what allows people to do the what you look at the broad spectrum of what people are
capable of like what allows the worst what allows the most extreme aspects of our personality i
wish we could have an empathy pill like have a gene it's called ecstasy yeah but all the time
yeah well that's what we need to engineer but all the time. Yeah. Well,
that's what we need to engineer. People on E all the time. Just a really mild dose of E. We just
want to hug everybody. We would be so much nicer. But it's really interesting because if you stop
and think about the idea of engineering consciousness through pills, I mean, that's
what everybody's worried about when it comes to antidepressants and Prozac and things that people give kids for ADD. And, you know, people are really concerned
about this concept of engineering consciousness and what are the repercussions of doing this and
giving people things, but what if they get it right? What if they just fucking nail it and it
just becomes, everybody becomes cool as shit. Like they just like, they give you a pill and then all day you're on
a mild ecstasy,
super friendly mode
and it gives you a 20-30%
IQ boost.
It's fast track evolution. Why not?
Is that possible?
It seems like it would be, right?
It would be weird because what if something went horribly wrong?
And it will for the first few generations
until we get it right.
We're all fucking guinea pigs.
It's pretty insane.
This generation's pretty crazy.
Well, no one more so than those people in St. Louis.
That is a really hard thing to fucking read.
It's a really hard thing to read
to think that that actually did happen.
Yeah.
It's just so weird.
It happens a lot more than we like to think.
It's so weird that people can do things that they can do,
and then other people are just cool as shit and normal.
What about dropping white phosphorus in fucking Iraq?
That's against...
What is that? What is white phosphorus?
It's like this incendiary that's supposed to light up the air when you drop it.
When you look at bombing in Baghdad when we invaded,
you see these plumes of light light coming down and it basically just
it's such a high concentrated incendiary that it will just cut through skin like it'll just
slice through your flesh and so they've been using that it's against i mean it's totally
illegal to use during warfare and israel does it and so does this country still yeah those
depleted uranium that's awful. That will never go away.
DU is there forever.
It's that area is like toxic.
Yeah.
For like how long?
Millions of years.
Oh.
Yeah.
The shelf life of DU is like millions of years. And what is the idea about depleted uranium?
Was that it penetrates armor better than anything else?
It's like this radioactive coating on the shell of something, like the shell casing, and I don't know what the fuck, why you would ever use that if it's so horrifyingly toxic for the environment.
Do we need that?
Don't we have high-grade weaponry enough that we don't need to be using DU?
Yeah, what the fuck?
Do you think those things are just like, let's see if we can do this.
I think we could just
shoot right through that thing with a DU.
And they're like, God, go for it, man.
Do it, dude. It's just like people watching the nuclear
explosion with just like glasses on. They're like,
oh, sweet. Like just no
concept of anything in the future past
10 years. Like, what is this going to do?
It's just the idea that anybody
has the ability to make that
call. Hey, we're going to shoot these
bullets. And they
should work a lot better than our
regular bullets, but...
There's one catch.
They poison the ground for a million
years. Whatever, whatever.
What'd you say? Whatever, whatever.
It's a fucking million years. Listen, we're not even getting around.
Don't worry about it. It's a million. It's a hundred million years. Listen, we're not even getting around. Don't worry about it.
It's a million.
It's a hundred.
We got to get rid of them.
We got a lot of this stuff.
We got a shipment of these things, guys.
We have a lot of this stuff.
We might as well make bullets out of it.
What is depleted uranium?
What does it look like?
I don't fucking know.
Let's look that up.
Yeah, look that up.
Depleted uranium.
Okay, let's see what the fuck it looks like.
I bet it...
Do you have two peas?
I do.
Depleted uranium. I bet it looks like. I bet it, uh, do you have two peas? Depleted uranium.
I bet it looks like, uh,
I bet it looks evil.
Uh, why is there a baby photo
with no face? No, it's not.
I see, uh, I see a photo of it.
Look at that. U92, that's what it is.
Try to find that photo.
That's what depleted uranium looks like.
And apparently it's just fucking awesome at killing shit just they figured out how to make something that's way better than regular metal
um so what it says is the it's uranium with a lower content of the fissile f F-I-S-S-I-L-E, fissile, U-235 than natural uranium.
And natural uranium is 99.27% U-238 and 0.72% that you don't give a fuck about this.
What am I saying this to you people for?
What are you doing?
Why am I reading this?
Because a lot of times when I go to Wikipedia, folks, I've never read about this
before, so I'm hoping that they'll
sort of boil it down for me within the first
paragraph. No such luck
today, kids. Just a bunch of numbers
that I don't understand.
But, um, yeah.
So that depleted uranium shit, that ain't good.
Did you see Wolverine?
What?
There's a reason why I'm saying that.
What, outside?
The movie.
Wolverine.
No.
With Hugh Jackman?
No.
Ugh.
Yes, with Hugh Jackman.
Who else would be Wolverine?
He's been Wolverine for the past decade.
Jesus Christ.
I think he's the only Wolverine ever.
Right?
There's never been a Wolverine.
There's a scene in it from Nagasaki.
Because Wolverine's like 150 years old or whatever.
However he was when they made him. I forget.
But the idea is that he's immortal
in Nagasaki.
He gets involved in the bomb.
But you stop and think about that.
What a
strange
ability that human beings
had, even in 1947,
to throw something out of a plane, fly over you, throw something, and just wipe out everything.
Just wipe out the whole shebang.
Just flatten that motherfucker.
Kill hundreds of thousands of people.
Just like that.
But we needed to use it to end the war.
Save lives.
Save lives.
There's Hugh Jackman working out.
Look at him, sexy beast.
Nice, where is he?
Look at him. God damn it. There he is. He's getting ready beast it's hard to believe that he likes musicals too
he's a perfect man
I think nuclear technology
is batshit crazy
it can be used for good
but the thing is we don't have the capacity
to harness it properly
look at nuclear energy
we can't store the waste
and the waste doesn't go away for millions of years
so we're like where the fuck are we going to put this?
Yes, in theory, it's great, but there's this whole other component that we're just kind of ignoring.
And then look what happened in Fukushima when something goes wrong.
I didn't realize until Fukushima what nuclear energy actually was.
I didn't realize it was just water boiling in these giant open-air things.
I'm so on the same page.
I'm so confused. I had no idea.
This is what we're doing? This is ridiculous.
You're making steam?
You got a sun that makes steam.
And you can't shut it off.
Oh, okay. Glad you built that.
Good move. There's no way you could have improved upon that.
Let's build some fault lines here in the US.
Well, listen, listen.
What you don't know, okay, I see where you would come
with this as an uneducated person,
but I'm going to explain to you.
We need that, first of all.
It's a major reason why coal is down.
The use is many, many percent down.
We have the situation eradicated.
There's basically no worries.
Fukushima was a very old design.
We have various fail-safes and backup generators,
and we don't pitch shit right next to the ocean like those crazy Japanese.
Except we do.
We have like 23 sister reactors all built by GE here in the exact same manner,
some built by fault lines.
There's one on the way to San Diego.
You pass by it.
San Onofre.
You know where that is?
I think they're shutting that down.
They are, but they said it's going to take like 13 years.
Now what?
How do you shut it down?
It's been a 30-year process. We're going to take all the toxic water and just dump it in the ocean. down yeah but they said it's gonna take like 30 years now what how do you shut it down
we're gonna take all the toxic water just dump it in the ocean right where all the plastic bags
what do you mean shut down what does that mean i thought you couldn't shut them down
it seems like um isn't there like a bunch of spots in nevada where they've just like
dug holes and we're like oh just put it here did they have signs over those like in a million
different languages going to fucking dig here right don't dig here for the next million years
this spot sucks okay 2012 thanks what are we doing yeah that's a weird thing the fact that they have
these areas where they dig a hole and they just put all their garbage. They're like listen. I know this is all toxic and shit
What I would have
Dig a little hole here drop it off. Is this your land? Okay? Can we just dig holes?
Yeah, we just pay you like a couple G
Sweet listen you guys can have prostitution right and gambling yeah that yeah, oh you mean what they've done to Indian reservations
Yeah, that's pretty much what they did. They're just like everyone just going those toxic areas with like no
to Indian reservations.
That's pretty much what they did.
They're just like,
everyone just go in those toxic areas
with like no ability
to like farm or do anything
and we'll just fucking
give you gambling.
Here, aren't you happy?
Here, gamble.
Here's some alcohol, cigarettes.
If you think about it that way,
that's a weird way
of looking at it,
but I guess a lot of Native Americans
would agree with you on that.
They don't live in the best spots.
They don't give like
the best spots away
for reservations.
They're like, can we have a Y?
Oh, no, no.
Can't have a Y.
Nope.
Okay.
How many really good spots where the Indians were?
We're like, no, not this one, bitch.
There's a lot of really good spots that Indians had.
Where can't we build?
Okay, go there.
I've read a bunch of different versions of why they were called Indians,
some that make sense and some that don't.
But there's no denying that name.
I've read two different versions of the idea that they thought they were actually in India.
I've read that that was the case, and then I also read that it was based on a word.
I'm trying to remember what it was.
Something meaning free man, Indio, or something like that.
The Indigo Children?
It's not a band?
Indigo Girls?
How were they?
Were they good?
The Indigo Children is like...
We can't play them, but were you a fan, Brian?
I have too much penis for that.
What are you trying to say?
That you can't be a man who is well-endowed, who enjoys some chick music?
No, I think they're more attracted to that culture.
They're more attracted to that culture?
It's like Cher.
What the fuck are you saying?
What's like Cher?
Indigo girls are like Cher?
Men are more attracted to that or women or lesbians?
Lesbians.
Did you guys hear about this boa constrictor that got out of a pet store and climbed through the walls and into this kid's room and killed a five-year-old and a seven-year-old?
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it was in Canada, apparently.
Climbed over the walls of someone's house?
No, it was in like, they had like a reptile place downstairs.
Oh, wow.
And this fucking thing got out.
That's horrifying.
Yeah.
Look at all these idiots that actually have exotic pets as pets here in this country.
Did you know that there's more tigers in captivity in the U.S. than there is in the wild?
In the world?
Really?
Yes.
Really?
Louis Theroux.
You know who Louis Theroux is?
I don't believe that. Yes. Louis Theroux. You know who Louis Theroux is?
I don't believe that.
No, Louis Theroux, this awesome journalist that works for the BBC, does these.
He goes and lives with crazy families.
He lives with the Westboro Baptist Church for like a month. He'll go live with all these assholes who have tigers and cages and baboons and giant snakes.
And he'll just do this documentary about him.
And they don't know that he's actually mocking them because he's like British
and so they don't really understand his humor he's like being really sarcastic
all the time it's great well he's also like super embedded he'll let them be
themselves exactly you know he's like yeah he does he's not like arguing with
them as much as he's just encouraged them to communicate who they are you
know which is like oh you know a hard way to do it.
You're embedded with the Westboro Baptist Church.
They're like, you know, I've got to kill all these queers
and light fires and show up.
He went in the sign.
They have a really great sign-making factory.
He was in there, and he was like,
Nelson Mandela fag.
He's like, I don't understand.
Just the most random signs.
And then it had his face on a sign
because he goes back to the Westboro Baptist Church Church and then they made a sign with him.
It just said like Louis Theroux fag lover or something.
He was like, why did you make a sign about me?
Our human struggle is just so bizarre.
What a bizarre thing to struggle about.
What?
The Westboro Baptist Church is one of the weirdest like branches of humanity.
Because it's almost like we expect them to do something
stupid whenever anything happens now and it becomes like an oddity like a little side show
with these things and if we yeah it's like impossible to not pay attention to them because
they're so fucking outlandish like the fact that they will just go and fly to picket funerals
it's a part of the idea struggle you know it's a part of the idea struggle. You know, it's a part of the idea struggle, the battle between, like, advancement and thinking.
And there's the monkeys.
There's the fucking screaming apes that are still around,
throwing shit at each other, holding up abortion signs.
The majority of us.
But it's just a part of that fucking struggle.
Have you seen that photo of the mountain goat and the cougar that fell to their deaths?
Oh, my God.
I want to see it.
Pull that shit up.
It's a series of photos.
It's a battle.
It shows a battle because the mountain lion actually has the hair in his mouth of the goat.
They're both dead.
They're laying out on a stretch of highway in Colorado where the road was closed.
They went to war on a cliff, and they both fell to the death.
And it's a wild fucking series of photographs.
It's amazing.
Look at this.
Whoa.
Yeah, well, see that thing to the left?
That's one of the horns from the mountain goat.
Like, it lost its horn in the process.
And there's a series of photos, Brian, if you scroll down.
I know, it's gross.
It shows that's where the horn came out.
See, look, that's where the horn literally broke off.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And that's the mountain lion.
Look in his mouth.
You see the tuft of fur?
Look at that.
He got that thing in his mouth, and they both went for a ride
and landed, boom, on the ground.
Look at this goat.
It's like, oh, shit.
Boom. Yeah. All right, this is good. It the ground. Look at this goat. Oh, shit. Boom.
It's fucked.
No need to look at it, but they show you the...
No need to look at that
after you've looked at that.
Props to
Javier Vargas. He's the guy who sent me that
on Twitter. Trying to give out
Twitter props, yo.
The website
takes you to a whole series
of photos.
It's not beautiful,
but it is beautiful.
I'm not happy that either one of those animals died. I'm not an
asshole. They died in a beautiful,
crazy way. Yeah, it's fascinating.
It's fascinating. It's like any
weird, strange work of art. There's something
bizarre about you're capturing this image.
Nobody influenced them.
It's not like they were forced to do it in a coliseum for our amusement.
This is just something that played out in the wild, and they fell off a cliff.
It would have happened whether people existed or not, most likely.
It's just a fascinating, fascinating thing to see that this is how life exists.
When you take away language and you take exists. When you take away language,
and you take away cities,
and you take away advancement,
it's just this wild group of things
that are trying to eat each other and survive
and keep moving and spread numbers.
How amazing is it that we live in a time
where we can see all of the shit,
like the Planet Earth series,
where you can just see what the fuck bacteria look like
in caves in New Mexico or some shit,
like glowworms spinning silk, or or the goats on that mountainside,
and that's what reminds me of that.
Those goats that survived, it's like a sheer face of a mountain,
and they're hunting and they're fucking running around.
How are they even existing up there?
Yeah, it was amazing.
I was in Montana, and I watched these mountain goats climb up the side of these bluffs,
and they're standing on these ledges. It's like a chunk like that wide and they got one hoof here and
one hoof there and it's not like they're like oh shit they're like oh how do I get up here
they just keep going they're like on a ledge yeah they're just on a sheer fucking face and
then how gangster was that mountain lion to go I'm gonna take my chances yeah it's like yeah
ledge smedge I think I grabbed that bitch by the neck and just lock onto him right there.
I remember the guy filming it said he waited like weeks, like six weeks to finally catch
them hunting or whatever.
And it was like this epic chase on this mountainside.
And I was like, how are they not just collapsing and falling to their death?
They caught a mountain lion hunting?
No, it wasn't a mountain lion.
It was one of those goats.
But they were getting chased by a mountain lion or some shit.
Oh, so they filmed that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was insane.
Yeah, mountain lions are really hard to film.
That's one of the reasons why when people hunt mountain lions,
the hunting of mountain lions is very controversial.
And on one hand, I see the point of people that don't want them hunted.
Like they're this majestic, cool creatures, and it's amazing and everything.
But on the other point, like, you've got to realize, like, if you don't keep their numbers to a manageable level, like, the last thing you want is mountain lions like squirrels.
Wild lions.
Yeah.
There's lions here.
Yeah.
You don't want them like squirrels.
You know, you don't want them like pigeons just running around, grabbing slow people.
Like, we'll have a real problem like you
need to figure out how many we need to keep and there's only one way to do that you got to kill
them because nothing else kills them they don't have any enemies the only they die of old age
when they fall from cliffs when they're holding on to goats other than that they're gonna be fine
did you hear about the pack of wild pit bulls that killed that jogger what a fucked up way to die
yeah that's not fun horrible way to die. Yeah, that's not fun.
A horrible way to die.
That seems like a good start.
And she was with two other people,
and the owner was just watching it happen.
The pit bull just destroyed this woman,
and then they were able to get help,
but the girl died, I think.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
Animals are fucking no joke.
Right.
We are around them all the time.
We get used to the fact that we, for the most part, have them under control.
But just dogs.
I have two dogs.
One of them is a smaller dog, but one of them is pretty big.
He's like 140 pounds.
And I always think, if he just decided, like, I just want to see what you taste like.
You know, if a dog really wanted to do that, we were pretty sure they're not going to,
but if they really wanted to, It's not a lot stopping them.
Yeah.
They are a creature.
They're instinctual.
Something snaps and they fucking go for it.
It's going to be really weird if people do
create this synthetic
sort of
artificial meat.
If they really do create that and it starts
being something that's sold on a regular
basis, what are we going to do? Like, are we going to keep raising cows? Is it going to be a way to
justify the fact that you're killing an animal? Or will it get to the point where we just won't
let cows mate that often, just keep a few of them around so they don't go extinct and just eat these
fake burgers? I think people will always want to eat the real animal
really some will they won't like to shoot them or if they just want authentic yeah it'd be like
a diamond like chicks don't like cubic zirconias i just don't know how
is this the real deal was this forged in the bowels of the earth i know
yeah if it tastes better what if it tastes better. What if it tastes
better? What if regular meat tastes like shit?
Yeah, I'm down too.
Yeah, why not?
Well, I'll let people try it for about a decade or so
before I jump in.
You want to be real careful.
Yeah, talk about being guinea
pigs, GMOs.
Did you see this thing on...
There was an
article, it's on my Twitter
where these scientists put
Mona Lisa, a tiny Mona Lisa
they drew it
on a surface one third
the width of a human hair.
It's incredible.
This incredibly precise
instrument at the Georgia
Institute of Technology. They have printed Mona Lisa on an abstrate surface,
30 microns in width, which is one-third of the width of a human hair.
Can you pull it up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually pretty good.
That's amazing.
It's amazing.
What date is it?
What date?
It's on sciencespacerobots.com, and it should be there today.
If you just look for scientists paint Mona Lisa on surface,
just that, I'm sure, will pull up the article.
Yeah, that's it.
That's a Mona Lisa they paint.
They made that on something one-third the size of a human hair.
It's pretty fucking good, too.
It's hard, man. How the hell? I don't know know wrap your head around that i can't it's hard what the fuck my head around the fact
they just froze light yeah they did that too right for how long how long did it freeze like a minute
a minute does that make sense no what does that mean what happens there if you freeze light and
then you go to the speed of light, what happens?
Does a sofa surfer pop out of your spaceship and come down here to fix the world?
What the fuck, man?
I just saw this crazy thing.
Dude, pull up this.
This is some crazy 3D pen that they can draw, like, in the air now and make, like, a, dude,
I don't know, look at that.
Like an image?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
How much do you know about, there's pens that apparently record what you write.
How much do you know about there's pens that apparently record what you write?
So if you write something down, say there's a pen, like if I gave you this piece of paper and I had you write things down, what you wrote down would actually show up in a computer.
No way.
Yeah. That technology's been around for a while.
But is it Wi-Fi?
How does that work?
That's amazing.
Or does it have to sync up with a USB?
Yeah, you like sync it up to your computer and it's like mixed into a document form.
But if you could do it
with a sync up,
you could probably do it
with Wi-Fi, right?
I'm sure nowadays
that they have it
because I saw the first one
actually when I worked
at Gateway,
they used to have them.
So some CIA dudes
could probably be able
to hook it up for Wi-Fi.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Seems like it, right?
That's amazing
because somebody told me
about this guy
that we actually wound
up having this guy on our uh tv show and he's a psychic his name is banachek and i can't tell you
what he does in the show but he he'll tell you that it's all bullshit he's like he's a he's a
mentalist i shouldn't say he's a psychic what he does he debunks a lot of what people think is
psychic but it's just trickstery shit he just he's a master in all this trickstery shit and i was trying to figure out how the fuck he did what he did because it was really kind of
trippy and one of the things that i think might be possible i've been just running this through
my head is a one of those pens that as you write things down without like you could seal it in an
envelope and he has access to the information incredible yeah no that's a really good point
that is possible today right right? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, without a doubt, right?
It has to be.
I bet they could probably do the same thing with like a keystroke thing, too.
Oh, there it is.
No shit.
Two gigabyte Wi-Fi smart pen.
Boom.
$179.
Wow, it's only $179.
What?
That's incredible.
What is that dude's name from the 007 movies that got all the gadgets?
What was his name?
Dr. Watson.
No, that's Sherlock.
Oh.
Who was the guy?
Spectre.
No, who's the guy?
The guy who always had the shit.
Right?
You guys know that there was that one guy.
What was his name?
The dude who was like, bone, this is the new umbrella.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The dude, yeah.
Q?
Was it Q?
I don't know.
Was his name Q?
The briefcase with all the shit in it, yeah.
Let's see.
Q Bond.
Please look up the 3D pen.
I want to see if I actually saw this.
Yes, his name is Q.
He was a fictional character in the James Bond films
and novelizations.
Q standing for quartermaster.
Huh.
Yeah, there was a bunch of these dudes that played Q.
Yeah.
Is that what you're talking about?
No way.
What is that?
What?
Yeah, look.
Wait, go down, see the image.
How it works.
So this is the pen that you write something.
You can write something like in air,
and it would actually just draw like a 3D.
Okay, so he's filling in this thing.
It's like icing.
Wait a minute.
It says doodler.
And then this is going to just show up in the air?
Is that what this is?
Is this the wrong video?
No, see, there you go.
Oh, wow. there you go.
Oh, wow. That is crazy.
Is that ridiculous?
Wait a minute.
It's like a pen that makes like silly putty comes out of it.
Kind of, yeah.
It's like that plastic stuff you used to take those little straws and blow the little air bubbles in.
Okay, that's stupid.
That guy's an idiot.
Not really, buddy.
Relax, dude.
Look at a little dinosaur.
Don't get uptight.
Yeah, he's making a strange dinosaur.
That's actually pretty cool.
It's cool, but like in a bedazzled kind of way.
Yeah, what would you like?
A bedazzled kind of way.
That's so true.
They just created this substance that water doesn't stick to it.
So you can put it on your shoe and you can just pour shit on it.
That's crazy.
We showed a video of that.
This guy just ran through a mud puddle.
It's fucking nuts.
Nothing touches you.
These scientists.
God damn.
And it's all happening so fucking quick.
Every day there's some new thing.
If only we had the most smart
minds in the world working toward technologies
that are good instead of like weapons
and I mean think about how many people are just
wasting. Yeah you're right.
But we do as well. It's almost like
do you ever think about the possibility
and this might be total hippie bullshit
but is there a possibility that we
need a bunch of dickheads in the world
in order to motivate the good people to act and that's
Sort of like this struggle is imperative in the human condition the yin and the yang
That's almost like it there has to be assholes in order for people to push society further in order for us to
Recognize our problem. Yeah, I think you're right
I think there's always gonna be a balance of good and bad
But I don't think that we need to let the assholes get to the extent where they're actually like
Fucking up the planet for the rest of us, which is where we're at right now
So if we curb the assholes back to a manageable level. Yeah, or the assholes fucking things up this
Motivates the really smart nice people to develop some kind of crazy technology that eats plastic
It eats plastic and and it creates flowers that grow in your mind and enlighten people.
That doesn't make sense.
Plastic needs to eat mushrooms.
Well, they said that fungus is actually the best way
of dealing with plastic,
that they've found funguses that they can mutate
and get them to eat plastic.
Really?
Yeah.
Because I thought there was no way to destroy plastic.
No, there's been some headway in that.
That's one of the ideas they're coming up with.
Yeah, it's still scary.
It's still scary when you see the various studies about how large the patch is
and how much of an area it covers and how much actual material is out there.
It's spooky.
Yeah, it's not an island.
That's kind of a misnomer.
It's actually just a swirling pool.
Yeah, I've called it an island before.
Of plastic.
I was trying to, like,
figure out,
I guess that's not the best way to say it
because it really is floating.
So it's not really an island.
But it's,
it's a giant area, man.
It's big.
It's big.
It's like Texas size, right?
Bigger.
Bigger than Texas.
I think twice the size of Texas.
Jesus.
Have you ever driven through Texas?
Just imagine all that fucked.
I can't.
Drive all the way through Texas
and all that is just fucked in the middle of the ocean.
I don't know if they're going to be able to fix that in our lifetime.
No.
But it's going to be really interesting if it gets all the way to Santa Monica.
If it just gets all the way to the fucking shores and it washes up on the boardwalk and everybody's like, hey, what the hell?
There it is.
We'll send it to the future or something.
That's what will happen.
We'll create time travel,
and then we'll send all our trash to 50,000 years from now.
We can't even send that stuff, though, at this point.
You're dealing with so much volume.
You couldn't really send that.
If we wanted to scoop it up and put it in rockets and shoot it,
you know how much that would fucking cost?
That would be so crazy.
That's why we can't clean it up, though,
because you can't clean it up.
It's so many microparticles of plastic,
and all these fish have formed their habitats
within the plastic trash swirl.
They have to, right?
They had no choice.
It's like animals that were caught in the Congo
when the Congo grew out of the grasslands.
The rainforest trapped all these animals, like antelopes and rhinos and shit.
They all got trapped in this rainforest.
It just erupted out of nowhere and changed their habitat.
These poor fish are dealing with that.
If we did scoop it up and just launch it into space, that would be when the aliens would land.
They would be like the angry neighbors.
They'd be like, bitch, what the fuck are you doing?
Okay, we've been watching you guys
now this is way too fucking far.
We were okay with nuclear power
but you're throwing
fucking bags of trash
over the fence.
Stop it, dicks.
Fucking.
We are.
We are the shitty neighbor
of space.
Is that what we are, Brian?
Unless they suck
worse than us.
Right.
Which is probably going to be
more realistic. You're right. What if they're more advanced
and more douchey, and we
just end up in the sea world of
space? They just suck us up
and make us do tricks.
Maybe that's what we're doing here.
Remember when Stephen Hawking came out and he
was like, by the way, aliens are most definitely
out there, and we should not be
looking for them, because they're most likely wanting to take over the planet.
And everyone was like, what the fuck?
We're like, Stephen Hawking's at that.
No?
You know what's hilarious?
Every one of our scenarios in a film of the aliens coming starts off bad, but ends us with us kicking ass.
Right.
Okay?
But when was the last time we went and scooped up some chimps and shit went wrong?
last time we went and scooped up some chimps and shit went wrong you know what was the last time we went on a monkey search expedition just start scooping them up with nets and and it went terribly
wrong we lost control of the planet get the fuck out of here like once they start kicking our ass
like if they can come here from other planets we got a real problem the thing is are they real
i just saw war of the worlds again, and it was fucking terrifying.
The Tom Cruise one?
Yeah.
It was fucking terrifying.
It's just like a whole metaphor about what we're doing to the planet anyway,
just sucking it all up and just spraying our shit back at us.
You could argue that we've always done that, but we've never done it at this level.
To this level, yeah.
There was horrible, horrible pollution in ancient times.
People would get sick because they didn't have proper sewage systems.
People would be throwing their shit out the window.
There's a lot of human waste
whether it's waste byproducts
from their body or waste from the food
that they have that created rats.
Rats carry diseases. Not created rats.
We encourage them to be in the area.
There's always been that sort of situation.
There's always been this battle.
But we know better now. That's what's inexcusable.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
It's like what we were talking about earlier.
We know that we don't shit where we eat, but for some reason we sometimes...
We know to not do that.
You say that, but we do it anyway.
Right.
People always shit where they eat.
People are crazy.
It's the battle.
It's the constant struggle.
The yin and the yang.
The good and the bad.
The sense and the nonsense.
All just fucking duking it out to try to get to the end point.
That's what, was it Orson Welles?
Yeah.
H.G. Welles said, he said that history is a race between education and catastrophe.
I've used that quote way too many times to not know exactly who says it.
So if you're going, he's pretending he doesn't know it.
No, I legitimately didn't remember.
Relax. There's all these conspiracies floating around through the internet. not know exactly who says it. So if you're going, he's pretending he doesn't know it. No, I legitimately didn't remember.
Relax. There's all these conspiracies floating around through the internet.
It's better to burn it than
to fade away.
The fuck are you trying to say?
That was called a conversation stopper.
What's your
favorite kind of porn? What's your go-to porn?
Like amateur or girl?
That's what you like.
You like that amateur shit, right?
I like solo male masturbation, Backyard Black.
I like
Rebecca Linares.
Oh, you have like a specific girl you like
watching? Oh, yeah.
The whole world just put their pants off right now.
And they're like, please, Abby.
Please keep talking.
The best is porn on Vine. That's the best. Do they do porn on Vine? Are you allowed to, please, Abby. Please keep talking. The best is porn on Vine.
That's the best.
Do they do porn on Vine?
Yeah, yeah.
Are you allowed to?
Oh, yeah.
My favorite's, there's a girl named Siri.
Hey, don't ruin her.
Oh, she's already been ruined.
Get her account pulled.
Oh, no, no.
It doesn't matter.
It's legal?
Yeah.
There's tons of porn.
And it's the best because most girls are just like,
they get right to it.
Like, I'm going to open it up and stick my finger in it.
Oh, now it's going to loop.
I'm going to open it up and stick my finger in oh now it's going to loop I'm going to open it up
and stick my finger in
perfect
boobs amazing
on Vine
check out Siri Triple A
Brian's got a lot
of free time
six seconds
a lot of it was spent
with his pants off
I've never masturbated
trolling Vine
getting all the best
porn on Vine
so Duncan Trussell
has created this thing
called Summon the NSA
oh yeah
he told me about it.
And he created a website where you click a button and in one button,
it Google searches all like the terrible shit,
everything.
Don't do it.
Don't do it from here.
Don't do it from here.
But whatever you're doing,
don't do it from here.
And they,
they Google search.
They Google,
Google searches like pressure cookers,
backpack, great Qaeda.
That seems like a great idea.
And it's all in one button.
Yeah, I just saw this really, really awesome parody about the NSA that said,
here's how we're going to beat the NSA.
Just talk like a terrorist all the time.
It showed this mom calling her kid, and her kid was just like,
all right, I'm going to go blow up the school on the way.
It's a code name.
That's actually funny.
Was it a comedian that came up with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. That's actually funny. Was it a comedian that came up with that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's great.
That's really funny.
You just overwhelm them.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Somebody, whatever you do, don't.
Well, we're lucky that Ari didn't figure that out on his own.
Ari would have rode that shit to the fucking rocks.
What a warped reality that Snowden just got granted asylum by Russia.
Yeah, right?
Well, you know what happened?
Do you know the whole story behind it?
That the United States had somehow or another criticized Russia for silencing political dissent?
And they were like, what?
Bitch, what did you just say?
Do you know who's at our airport?
And they're like, oh, okay, listen.
Yeah, yeah, Ed.
Hey, what's up?
Vladimir.
Yeah.
Yeah, come stay at my house dog come come hang out
bitch are you crazy did you really say that you're criticizing us for silencing political dissent
do you fucking know that's so silly we have the biggest story of all time when it comes to like
a lack of privacy that's the biggest story of all time it's comes to like a lack of privacy. That's the biggest story of all time.
It's the fucking,
somebody pulled the curtain back and we saw the wizard.
We saw the wizard.
Like it's,
that is the biggest story of all time when it comes to privacy.
This guy said,
Hey,
by the way,
I used to work there.
I didn't even graduate from high school.
This is the access that they gave me.
He didn't even graduate from high school.
Right.
Right.
And he was like,
well,
but I can read your email.
So what's up?
Yeah.
What up now and i was
just a dude and by the way we're also tapping into china's hospitals did you hear about that
shit like civilian infrastructure in china it's like what the hell well what's fascinating is
tapping that yes why i don't know maybe they have an answer but and even more fascinating that they
chose to do this and to try to discredit this guy by going out by the with the fact that he was a
high school dropout right like this is a fact that he was a high school dropout.
Right.
Like this is a shady character.
It's a high school dropout.
How the fuck does a high school dropout work for you and have access to
everybody's email?
What the hell are you doing?
What are you doing?
And it makes you realize like,
Oh,
these crazy fucks.
They thought no one was going to check them.
Right.
They thought no one was going to pay attention.
They were just going to keep doing what they've always been doing
they just keep pushing it and they just didn't realize that they were doing it
like completely out in the middle of a field in the open like oh oh oh oh oh
shit and I love for the media is all like oh well come back here and face the
music you're not a hero until you come back here it's like why so we can sit
and be fucking tortured like Bradley Manning was for years before he's even
given a kangaroo court?
Yeah, and you're not saying that. That sounds like an exaggeration.
Like, oh, was he really tortured?
Well, he was, yeah.
Solitary confinement is torture.
And naked solitary confinement when it was cold.
Like, they kept him by himself for years, right?
Like, how long did they keep him in solitary?
Two years.
But I think it was like three years before he got a trial.
But yeah, he was he was stripped down naked, forced to be stripped down naked every night and totally dehumanized.
No outside contact at all. Very sad.
The whole thing is so strange.
It's like if we really were this really kind and noble country that we want to think that we were,
we would have this person and we would use this example as an example of how to treat someone who disagrees with you but breaks the law, how
to treat them humanely, how to bring this up in discourse with the rest of the people
of this country.
But instead of doing something horrific and cruel to them and doing it out in the open
and doing it where everybody's aware of it. It's like you're showing your intentions.
Your intentions aren't to govern the world
and make people live in a better place.
Your intentions are to enforce your law with an iron fist.
My question is, where's the Apache helicopter pilot
who did blow up those AP journalists?
I bet he's living large, hanging out.
The guy who did the war crime in the video that Bradley Manning exposed.
Just like, what a fucked up two-tiered justice system.
Well, I don't think that guy's living large.
And I think that guy's paying psychologically whether or not he has to go to jail.
I guess I meant more like on the bigger scale, Donald Rumsfeld.
The real torture.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
The real actual criminals who implemented all, you know.
Yeah, could you imagine getting high with Donald Rumsfeld?
No, I can't.
Getting Donald Rumsfeld to do bong hits.
Just get him just super paranoid and freaking out and then just start talking about the Iraq War.
Dude, Larry King now works for RT.
He interviewed Donald Rumsfeld for like an hour.
I was like, damn.
Larry King works for RT now.
What did you think?
That's fascinating. That's really fascinating. Larry King works for RT now. What did you think? That's fascinating.
That's really fascinating.
Larry King.
Why does he work for RT?
Was that just like he wanted to keep working?
And he just decided after CNN to just go back at it?
I mean, I didn't know he was still doing news.
I thought he'd kind of retired and was doing like the online show.
He's always been a very nice guy to me.
I've met him twice.
He's really nice.
You know? I think he, well, he hosted the third-party debates at RT,
and then RT just offered him a job, I guess.
It's really strange.
Well, he's iconic.
He's one of those guys that people,
even if you don't necessarily want to hear who is being interviewed,
a certain amount will listen because Larry King's interviewing them.
But he doesn't have any opinion at all.
So he just asks.
Yeah.
That's how he can get access to these people like Donald Trump.
So it's like, do you want to?
It's not scary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He has enormous access.
Well, you kind of, yeah.
Kind of have to be that guy if you want to talk to the president.
Right.
If you're lucky.
You know, you have to like, you have to have a long history of not getting crazy
you know have you ever been crazy at all like probably geraldo rivera doesn't even get to
doesn't get to interview obama you're like you might do something goofy just to get attention
yeah yeah it's like you have to have like a certain level right like a matt lauer you have
to prove yourself matt laauer is not fucking around
he's taking this seriously
Katie Couric, she's not doing anything crazy
she's going to ask you questions
and be very respectful
you can't be some wild
I remember Geraldo came out in the wake of Michael Hastings death
and he was like, you know, I'm really sorry for
the loss of everyone for Michael Hastings
but he did get one of the best generals
of the Afghanistan War fired
and really fucked up the war.
It's like, yeah, that's great taste, dude.
Days after he dies, he's just tweeting.
Well, he was showing his ass.
That's what he's doing, showing his ass to the New World Order.
Look, here's my ass.
I'm going to love you.
I like that shirtless photo.
Yeah, he's an interesting cat.
That's why I brought him up, because I was aware of that tweet.
You know, he said one of our best fighting generals.
Like, what are you saying?
What does that even mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
We were losing the war.
First of all, it has nothing to do with this guy dying.
Right.
So this guy, did he make things up?
Like, how did someone, what happened?
Was this okay, what he did?
Yeah, should you not expose, like, generals who are
doing a bad job? I mean, I don't know.
It becomes a weird thing. It's like, what,
you know, does it arm, does it
aid the enemy?
That's, like, the big question. Does it aid
the enemy? That's the big question. Do you know who Barry
Crimmins is? Political comic from
Boston. Old school guy. He's been around a long time.
And he said, Bradley Manning
was acquitted of aiding the enemy because we're not the enemy.
And you're like, oh, snap.
And, I mean, that's essentially what, I mean, he definitely violated a bunch of rules and they're most likely going to jail him.
But.
The problem is he's still facing over 100 years in prison with all the charges, the 19 charges.
And there's like six charges of espionage still. But the fact that Obama's actually gone to the level that he has to prosecute whistleblowers and criminalize
whistleblowers is so fucking crazy to me because he's dredging up this World War I piece of
legislation that was used for foreign spies and using it just like willy-nilly. He's like, oh,
espionage act. Like, why? I mean, what did Edward Snowden do other than tell us about an unjust law?
Like, yes, he broke the law, but he's exposing something that's illegal and unconstitutional.
Like, the government's breaking the law.
Right.
So it's all relative.
Yeah.
It gets down to that wartime thing.
Especially at wartime, you're never supposed to do anything that weakens your government.
You know, that was what Geraldo was trying to express.
You know, I don't think he realized how people were going to take it,
especially after a guy dies.
The guy was a reporter.
It's not like he made things up.
The guy was a reporter,
and you can't say can't help but remember that.
You can't say that, man.
That's stupid.
I'm sorry for his lost butt.
Yeah, you can't.
In the same tweet?
I mean, motherfucker. The guy's life isn't even worth a tweet without reminding people of when Geraldo exposed the coordinates like during the Iraq
War did he yeah you remember that he like gave away coordinates. He's the one who fucking how did he do that?
He was like fucking reporting from some from some foxhole did like any rock and they were like you just fucking like talk about aiding the enemy He actually did aid the enemy in Iraq. And they were like, you just fucking, like talk about aiding the enemy.
He actually did aid the enemy
in Iraq.
Oh my God,
I have to find that.
Dude, you have to look this up.
It's amazing.
Geraldo.
Say Geraldo.
And then I think that's when
he got kicked off
like war covering.
Oh really?
Just look up
Geraldo exposing war coordinates.
Oh my God.
Well, he's also the one
that interviewed the soldiers
that were guarding
the poppy fields.
Do you know that?
Have you ever seen that?
I have not seen him interview them.
Was he asking them?
It's wonderful.
This is what's wonderful about it.
It's because he's not like,
what the fuck at all.
He's like, well, this is just something
that we have to do here in this war.
Why? Why do we have to do it?
Pull it up.
Dude, why do we have to maintain the poppy fields?
Well, it's important because we need heroin.
Right.
We need latex for our pharmaceutical industry.
In order for these people to give us information, we have to let them do what they do.
It's rather unfortunate.
Even though the Taliban had eradicated opium crop before we invaded and now 90% of the world's heroin comes from Afghanistan.
Yeah, that has nothing to do with what we're doing.
Is this it? Yes. Fox News live from Afghanistan. Yeah, that has nothing to do with what we're doing. Is this it?
Yes, Fox News live from Afghanistan.
And we are tolerating it.
We are tolerating the cultivation of the opium
because we know that if we were to destroy it now,
the population would turn against the Marines
and it would be a real security risk.
Let me introduce Lieutenant Colonel Brian Christensen,
the commanding officer of the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines.
Really a wonderful group of Marines here.
I know that you care deeply about this contradiction,
the fact that here you have one of the best fighting forces in the world ever mounted.
This is one of the strangest interviews ever.
You're watching as this opium is being grown.
I know it grinds at your gut.
How do you deal with it?
What are you doing with it?
Well, frankly, this is part of their culture.
So while it might grind in my gut, it's what they do.
We provide them security.
We're providing them resources, and we're providing them alternatives.
And the alternatives are different crops to grow.
They're getting the seed and the fertilizer to do it.
They can rotate any of their crops that they want.
If they want to get rid of their wheat and grow cotton for the winter, they can do that, and we're going to help to do it. They can rotate any of their crops that they want. If they want to get rid of their wheat and grow cotton for the winter,
they can do that, and we're going to help them do it.
So whatever, wheat, whatever, crops, cotton, heroin, whatever.
Whatever.
We're going to help them out. That's their culture.
We don't want to ruin their culture.
We don't want to disrupt their culture.
We're bombing the shit out of them, destroying everything else,
but we don't want to fuck with the opium.
There's Geraldo, manscaping, wearing towels.
Dude, I swear to God, look up him exposing the war coordinates.
I can't.
It hurts my feelings.
Ordinance.
Oh, man.
Yeah, the drug war is so ridiculous when you look at something like that.
Military kicks Geraldo out of Iraq.
2003, 10 years ago, Fox News Channel correspondent Geraldo Rivera is being expelled from Iraq
for broadcasting details about future U.S. troop movements in the country.
Hey, you fucked up.
You made a mistake.
Handsome bastard, though.
Still, even at this age, still rocking that Harry Reams mustache.
Yep.
Hey, you made a mistake.
I'm sure you didn't mean to do it.
Whatever, whatever.
Just out there, heroin, cotton.
But I mean, if we're talking about aiding the enemy,
it is a pretty funny thing.
He fucked up.
He didn't mean, I don't think he willingly did it, right?
Is that the idea?
Is it Bradley Manning willingly did it?
Well, Bradley Manning, what he did was start the dialogue.
And that's what Julian Assange did, too.
He started the dialogue.
And these guys are all obviously vilified and turned into monsters because they started the dialogue.
But look at that.
Oh, shit, Geraldo.
It's just really, really, really fucked up.
Here's where it really fucked up.
The towel's way too low, dog.
Right.
For anybody.
That's way too low for Justin Bieber.
You don't want to show those like...
There's no age when you're allowed to do that.
That's too low for Justin Bieber.
It's too old for John Mayer.
And it's too old for Geraldo.
So it covers all bases.
It covers young teens or 20s.
It covers 30s and handsome.
John Mayer's a goddamn stud.
He's a walking god.
But you can't... I don't want to see your fuck bones. Right. That's a goddamn stud. He's a walking god. But you can't.
I don't want to see your fuck bones.
Right.
That's what they call them, the kids these days.
They call them the fuck bones.
The upper musculature of the hips.
I don't need to see that.
I definitely saw Geraldo's fuck bones.
Yeah, he fucked up.
He's crazy.
He's crazy for showing us so much.
If the guy just had a nice pair of boxer shorts on.
Did Bush paint that?
You heard about Bush painting, right?
Yeah, he paints a lot of cocks, right?
He paints himself in the bathtub.
He paints himself in the bathtub?
Oh, he does his painting while he's in the bathtub.
No, no, no.
He painted himself.
Like, that's the paintings that he painted
was his sad face looking in the mirror
and then, like, his naked body in the bathtub.
No.
Yeah.
Which Bush?
Bush Jr.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Do you imagine the nightmares floating around
outside of that guy's mind?
He probably didn't even want to do that job.
Just kicking it, painting, hanging out.
But hanging around a bunch of dudes with machine guns,
just looking left and right everywhere you go.
Did you ever see that video of George Herbert Walker?
He went into a restaurant, and this guy just starts screaming,
you're a war criminal!
Awesome.
You're a war criminal. Awesome. You're a war criminal.
And it's really freaky because, you know, no one knows how to deal with it.
This guy's obviously willing to get arrested.
There's all these Secret Service guys.
And, you know, he's this old man, this old rickety man.
At the very least, I hope these people are hounded for the rest of their lives and tried to be put under citizen's arrest.
And they can't travel because they're wanted for war crimes in other countries.
They've already been declared, like, under international courts to be a under citizens arrest and they can't travel because they're wanted for war crimes in other countries they've already been declared like under international courts to be a war criminal
i hope that they fucking live and suffer every time they go out in public how rude these people
i hope they take mushrooms and apologize yeah that would be great is this all bush's drawings
did you find the one in the bathtub, though? Because these ones were actually hacked.
Someone hacked into his email account or something and found.
So he's only released the ones that are dogs.
Hacked, wink, wink.
Hacked, wink, wink.
Find the bush in the bathtub, dude.
It's fucking weird.
Did you read what Jimmy Carter said recently?
Yeah.
That we are no longer a functional democracy?
Jimmy Carter's amazing.
Ooh, that's a weird one, huh?
Look at that. Bush painting a bunch of dogs. That's a weird one, huh? Look at that.
Bush painting a bunch of dogs.
That's what he does.
See, there he is.
There he is.
Open the...
It's him in a tub.
Oh, my God.
Do the one with the face.
Wait.
There's one of his face in the mirror.
Go up and click on the left-hand side one.
Yeah.
Can you enlarge that one?
Oh, my God.
What the hell?
Look at his face in the mirror.
Zoom in. Zoom in, zoom in.
You can't click on it.
You can't zoom in?
That's as much as you can zoom.
Oh, man.
Well, his face is quite perplexed looking back at him,
like very weird, surrealist, like off to the side.
How weird.
You know, here's the thing about art, okay?
There's one thing if you suck at it
But there's another thing if you're old and you suck at it, right?
Really weird. It's like
You're another thing of your bush. Yeah, if you're a fucking eight-year-old you just learning how to paint
That's one thing but there's something strange and I don't know why about someone who's really old that paints that sucks
And I don't know why about someone who's really old that paints that sucks at it. Because you're like, dude, move on.
Like, you're not good.
You think that drawing is one of those things that you either have a talent for or you don't?
Like, singing is clearly that way.
Singing to me, like, I have zero singing talent, so I know that I can't do it.
But I see people sing that don't have any lessons at all, and they just have a voice that just can carry a note.
Do you think that's the way with drawing, too?
No, I think art is different because there's so many different mediums,
and I think that we've been conditioned as a society to not approach art
and think that, oh, we're not artistic and stuff,
because really imagination and art are what drives creativity and reinvention.
And so every great inventor has been an artist in a sense
because he's imagining something that didn't exist
So if we are stifled and we don't
You know by the powers that be or whatever in art and music are the first things cut from public education and really it's fucking
up society because people when they don't express themselves artistically in any sort of
Fashion then that's inhibiting their own like personal growth and catharsis
Yeah, I think what we were talking about earlier
about men needing some sort of competition
and sometimes women as well,
I think people need a focus.
It really helps us to figure things out
because we don't have to figure out how to...
Look, there's the photo.
Look at his face.
Oh, it's so weird.
How creepy.
It's so weird, even in low resolution.
Because we don't have to figure out a way to hunt or fish or defend against enemies.
We have this need to make progress and make things happen and figure things out.
And creating is one great way to do that.
It's like sitting down and doing something, figuring out how to write a story, figuring out how to...
Do you think that's why so many people have anxiety now? Because as we've evolved as humans,
we needed like huge adrenaline rushes to go hunt or to do things like that and fight and
getting these altercations. And now we just have this kind of mundane lives where we go to work
and sit in front of a computer and work. So we have like this mild, just adrenaline, like anxiety
all the time. I totally think that's part of it.
I think the people that I know that have the least amount of that
are people that engage in a lot of martial arts.
Like most of my friends that do jiu-jitsu
are like the calmest, easiest-going people to be around
because they're just constantly doing that.
It becomes a part of their everyday life,
this sort of like physical struggle,
so that they don't need it and they don't look for it in other ways and their body doesn't look for it.
That sort of like constant buzz of anxiety could easily be attributed to not blowing
it out of your system, not exercising your system.
Sort of like a sexual thing.
You get how much we sit all the time.
Yeah.
Fucking sitting all day.
Sitting's terrible for you.
Horrible.
Kelly Starr, one of the guys that I've had on my podcast, he's a strength and conditioning
specialist and he's got a PhD in something super smart. And he was explaining, he's a doctor,
and he's explaining how sitting is the new smoking. Like what's terrible for your body,
your spine, your back. Like people are like slumped over and, you know, like terrible posture
and push all this pressure on your discs. Have've even found that girls in North and not girls people in North Korea are getting
Disc issues because of phones because they're looking down all the time
And so they're getting bulging discs in the back of their neck because of their fucking their their posture their constant posture
Wonder something crazy weed is legal in North Korea
Yeah, I heard that.
Isn't that a mindfuck?
I heard that.
I blocked it out.
It's like such a weird thing that doesn't jive with everything we know about.
Yeah, but if you smoke it, they eat you.
They serve you too.
They're political prisoners.
Maybe that's why they act like the way they are.
Paralyzed.
Because it's like they're just super, everyone's just super stoned.
Completely high.
Everyone's out to get them.
I'll fucking chew this right at you, bitch.
Yeah.
Can I grab a new one?
Did you ever see that Vice special
on North Korea?
The tour?
That was so weird!
One of the strangest images in life.
And he's like, I just wanted to say
on behalf of my country.
You're like, why is Dennis Rodman speaking on behalf of the country?
Sure, go for it.
It was interesting.
It was cool.
If you had to choose 10 people, he'd definitely be there.
10 people to represent the U.S.
I mean, I thought it was cool that he, yeah, it was fascinating.
That the Harlem Globetrotters would go there and be like,
I don't know, it's just bizarre.
Well, he's a big basketball fan.
The young guy who's running things, he's fairly young.
He looks like he's 15.
I think he's older than that, but I think he's fairly young.
How old is he? Kim Jong-un?
No, he can't. See, that's the thing.
I can't tell the age.
Oh, are you being racist?
How dare you?
No, it's a compliment.
Kim Jong-un.
Oh my god.
He's 29 years old.
Holy shit.
That's so crazy.
He looks a lot younger.
Wow.
But that's still extremely young.
He's 29 years old and he runs the country.
He's got nukes.
That's kind of, that might be one of the craziest things I've ever read.
That a 29-year-old would be able to run a country with nuclear bombs.
A military dictatorship with nuclear bombs.
He's a supreme leader.
That's what it says here.
Kim Jong-un is a supreme leader, son of Kim Jong-il,
the grandson of Kim Il-sung.
Whoa.
Yeah.
We live in strange times.
Yeah, but then I've actually got my horizons have been broadened
about North Korea a lot because I've realized that there's a lot of disinformation about why the country is the way it is.
And it has a lot to do with the Korean War, which is something we know very little about and why there's a demilitarized zone and why really has a lot to do with U.S. policy kind of forcing them into this fortress like mentality that they feel like they have to act like they're going to use nuclear bombs.
Otherwise, we're going to fucking take them out.
So it's almost like a self-preservation.
I mean, I'm not justifying it.
I'm just saying, you know, it's kind of these last remaining independent states in the world
who aren't completely overtaken by hegemony need to either act like they have nuclear
bombs and they're going to use them or they're going to get fucking taken out.
Look at Libya, Iraq, Syria's in the crosshairs now.
What do you think?
I mean, you're a person who pays way more attention
to the political atmosphere than I am.
What do you think is going to happen in the next 10, 20 years?
If you had to guess, how do you think this is all going to play out?
I think that arrogant empires always fall,
and we definitely are living in one.
Unless we scale back, unless something happens within the U.S. to try to maintain and preserve this country from collapsing, I think we're going to see some fucked up shit go on in the Middle East.
We're driving such instability in the Middle East. If you look back at US policy, we look at the Middle East as like
this clash of civilizations and we're kind of trained to say, oh, these people are barbaric.
They're so behind where the Western world is, but really ignoring the fact that the US has
been propping up military dictatorships and Mubarak and sponsoring his militarism for the
last 50 years. And then also in Afghanistan, we're the ones who radicalized Islam there and
propped up bin Laden. And I mean, where would those countries be if it weren't for us kind of suppressing that growth
and evolution in those cultures and it's really turned them more Islamic and more like radical
and that in that right so I think that we've really cultivated this schism in the region
that's that's created a lot of this instability. And like, look at Iraq. It's a fucking civil war.
Why?
Because we fucked up the country.
We fucked that shit up for 10 years.
And we just bounced.
And we're like, whatever.
Iraq's just fucked.
And then it's on the border of Syria.
And Syria's doing the same thing.
I mean, it's a mess.
And it's a shame.
I hope that it doesn't...
I see it going into a full-on civil war there in Iraq and Syria.
And it just depends on what the U.S. is going to do because the U.S. paves the way in terms of world policy.
So I don't think Obama wants to get involved in Syria.
I think he's trying to do everything he can to not.
But I think there's a lot of pressure from a lot of people to get in there.
But that's going to be fucking messy.
The idea of more wars?
More wars, dude.
Fucking God.
More wars.
You know, we had Dan Carlin on from Hardcore History.
You ever listen to that podcast?
I have heard about it.
Fucking amazing.
One of his most badass podcasts is about the Mongols.
And he told a story about how the Mongols invaded Iraq in the 1200s.
Essentially, it never recovered.
They killed everybody.
Killed everybody, threw all their work into the ocean or into the river.
The river was black with ink and red with blood.
And, like, they just slaughtered the town.
And they said that this was in the 1200s.
And he was talking about how scholars have argued that today,
like even in 2013, it's never really recovered.
Sort of recovered a little bit, but it was always, like,
it was at
one point in time, it was one of the highest levels of culture and intellect in the world.
Like the Islamic world had many scientists, many scholars, many poets, and all these different
really intelligent and well-respected people as far as the intellectuals of the day.
They killed all of them. They killed all of them. They threw all their work into the river.
They literally wiped out the town.
And all that they had learned and all that they had accumulated, all that they had, the
Mongols just destroyed it all.
And then we came along, you know, 2000 whatever, and one more time, just jacked to the ground
again.
We're talking about the cradle of civilization.
I mean, Iran.
One point, yeah.
3,000-year-old Persian empire.
I mean, we,'s it's facing extinction i mean we can we've we can decide whether or not we're going to completely fuck up that that region of the world but yeah i mean iraq and then the looting
of all these ancient um libraries and like museums there i mean all these ancient artifacts and then
look at lebanon another birthplace of civilization.
We just like Israel just bombed the shit out of it and just fucking destroyed it.
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
We should be protecting these sites, but I guess we're a little bit too short-sighted to give a shit.
Well, it's just I think it's a really strange time as far as our ability to influence events and to change the world and our ability to physically impact the world and our sort of our our ability to have evolved to the point where we know that that's
not a good idea it's almost like our our ability to create movement and to create events is far
greater than our ability to recognize the impact of these events what do you think this is all
about do you think that it that it's just a machine
that's kind of operating almost on its own
in terms of perpetual warfare
and the military-industrial complex
not being able to be scaled down
and just like the enormous growth
and need to just attain more and more power?
What is that?
Well, it seems like that kind of a thing
is a trend for human beings that when they get into a position of power, they try to keep pushing it.
They don't scale back.
They never get comfortable with their salary.
They always want advances.
They always want bonuses.
They always want more money.
And every year they want a raise.
And we want to continue to move forward and forward. And we see that happen where
people cut corners or in people in positions with extreme power, they can manipulate the actual laws
themselves in order to allow them to do things that maybe most people wouldn't agree to. But
it's sort of the same, in my opinion, at least the same sort of process or the same sort of pattern
that exists throughout the human race. When people get into
a position of power, they tend to push it. That's just what we do. When a guy becomes the sheriff
in a town and he's got corrupt tendencies, he starts to control the town. And when, you know,
it's just like when the technology exists, it will be abused by people.
like when the technology exists it will be abused by people almost until the the opening of the big mind and i think if there's anything that's going to save people it's the opening of the big mind
and what i believe the opening of the big mind is that we're going to eventually come to a point
in the very near future 20 30 whatever years i don't want to guess but where we share consciousness
not just be able to email each other, but literally I can get inside
of Abby Martin's head. I can understand, you can
get inside of my head, you can get inside of his head,
and then you're going to kill yourself. Once you get into his head,
you're going to go, this is, I didn't even
know there was people like this out there.
Titty videos on the loop. Yeah, just plungers
and all sorts of shit you didn't even think
could fit in your ass.
The point being is that
I think that if there's any trend
that seems to me to be
inevitable,
there's two. One is that things are going to progress.
There's going to be a
faster laptop next year. The car
is going to get more gas mileage and go
zero to 60 quicker and your phone is going to be lighter
and stronger.
There's a problem with that planned
obsolescence though that we have this system
that knows 20 years down the
road the model that they're going to release in 20 years
and they're releasing these antiquated models
year after year so you can just buy the newest
version of them? I don't know how much
of that is real because I think that
in an environment as competitive as the one
we experienced today, I think
eventually the cream rises
to the top and the competition is so strong
like let's put the smartphone market for an example to develop a smartphone phone get it
approved by the ftc then release it i'm not sure who's holding back shit i don't know if they really
are i don't know if it's a simple matter of you have to get things approved or this is just what
they can do on a mass level now and
if you like say if like it's a samsung galaxy s4 or some shit like that one of the newest android
phones i'm pretty sure that's about as good as they can do right now i don't think they're really
holding anything back but they also know that six months from now that's going to be dog shit
because there's going to be an help me ob1 phone that you press a button and makes a princess leo
hologram you know i mean that's going to happen there's a this uh dude uh from uh there's a place in um i think it's
marina del rey it's called just cause it's a an emotion capture thing there's this dude named
ruben who took us and showed us how to use this motion capture shit and one of the things that
they showed was that they can take you you put on on a suit, and they put, instead of you being Abby Martin, you're a giant dinosaur, or you're a spaceman, or you're a wolverine.
You know, they can just make you whatever you want inside this game.
No way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Without a doubt.
So there's going to be a phone within our lifetime.
They're going to be able to press a button, and you're going to be able to appear in a
Princess Leia outfit.
And you're going to be able to say, help me, Obi-Wan.
You're my only hope. That's amazing. I mean, you could, like like literally be a 3d holocaust oh yeah we are definitely gonna have virtual reality merged with with reality but wait when you're talking about
planned obsolescence well let's get back to the sharing of consciousness thing because i don't
understand how that would work because how can you really isolate i don't either consciousness
so we're fucked i don't think it's isolating consciousness. I think it's accessing. I think it's the ability to
access information and the ability
to access thoughts. I think
one of the first steps, and this is completely
hypothetical, folks. People are screaming on
science forums, this is not possible,
you fucking idiot. You're right.
We're just talking shit here,
okay? Relax.
But I think one of the things that's probably going to happen
is they're going to be able to record memories.
They're going to be able to put a hard drive in your mind somewhere in your system that can record your memories more accurately than your own memory can.
And that will act as our new memory.
It's sort of how you can't really remember that many phone numbers anymore because they're all stored in your cell phone.
I know like four or five numbers and that's it.
Once those are done, they're out of my system.
they're all stored in your cell phone.
I know like four or five numbers and that's it.
Once those are done, they're out of my system.
But I think that we're eventually going to be able to get a version of your memory that's going to be an artificial recording that's in like an HD that's absolutely perfect.
Absolutely.
No, then that's incredible.
But they already are doing studies where they have like analogs and cataloging dream sequences
and almost like deciphering different shapes of what people are dreaming.
It's really rough right now, but the technology is there and it's definitely developing.
So that's going to fucking revolutionize shit right there.
How do your dreams be able to be recorded?
Yeah.
Are you kidding me?
There was a woman, I think, I'm trying to convict it on her memory.
There was a woman.
It was in another country.
OK, women said there was a woman who was accused of a crime and they called her into court and tried this test on her.
God, it was fucking FTM.
I forget what it's called.
They they figured out how to register or to access her memories.
And in those memories, they determined that she had a personal knowledge of the crime and that they couldn't prove that she had actually committed the crime.
They couldn't prove whether she was a witness, but she said she wasn't even anywhere near
it, and they proved that she had a personal knowledge of the crime.
Now, how the fuck? And that was memory based. It had nothing to do with like...
Yes. Like lie
detector technology or anything. No.
It was actually just straight up... Yeah.
Somehow or another, they're accessing memory.
That's crazy. Let me see. I'm trying to Google
the correct things. Yeah. Somebody
showed it to me the other day. It's
really crazy. This...
I don't have the store in front of me.
Next podcast, I'll find it, folks,
and I'll get it to you.
Yeah, check it out.
See if you can find it.
People are like,
you do three-hour podcasts.
I don't even know where this is,
you fucking asshole.
How about you fucking research shit
before you talk about it?
Somebody showed it to me.
I'm assuming it's real.
I'm sure you smart cats
will send it to me on Twitter.
Did you hear about the cops
in Detroit robbing people?
Yes.
Were they real cops?
Yes.
Amazing.
They were real cops. What are we, in fucking Gothbing people? Yes. Real cops? Yes. Amazing. They were real cops.
What are we in fucking Gotham City?
Well, Detroit kind of is.
Detroit's way scarier than Gotham City.
Detroit is.
We were just there.
Really?
Yeah.
We filmed the TV show.
Oh.
We went to Zug Island.
Zug Island is where they make a lot of cars.
It's mostly like a steel factory and plant.
And when we were there, we saw houses that were like $50.
We found one online that was $39.
Yeah, $39 for a house.
Regular is $500.
There's a lot of $500 houses there.
But you wouldn't want to live there.
They would have to pay you to live there.
It smells horrible, like a sulfur-y, burning, chemical-y smell.
And it's just in the air all the time.
And people were fishing in this polluted river.
And my friend was like, why are they fishing in that river?
I was like, because they need to eat.
Like, it's really that crazy.
47% illiteracy rate.
The highest rate, I believe, of abandoned houses, like the growth of abandoned houses in the nation.
Pretty sure I read that too. Might have made that up though.
But yeah, we can't,
and I'm not, and let me preempt this by saying
I'm not advocating bailing out cities, but it
is just funny that the government's like, ah, we can't
help you, we're gonna fucking take all the pensions,
but at the same time, we're just gonna bail
out giant corporations and
fuck it, maintain 900
bases around the world and spend trillions of dollars fucking maintaining this empire of bases.
But we're just going to neglect all the cities here.
And yes, there was a lot of corruption in Detroit.
Yes, there's a lot of externalities that I'm not taking into consideration.
It's just an interesting dichotomy of who the fuck does this government really care about.
And again, it brings us full circle to porn.
Nobody bailed out porn. It all. Nobody bailed out porn, man.
It always comes full circle. I'm trying.
A dude who lived in my neighborhood was a porn guy. Lost his fucking house.
Bullshit, man.
Nobody cared. You're trying? You're trying to give up?
Have them move to Detroit.
Yeah. All the people who lost out in the porn industry.
Yeah, start porn in Detroit. Free taxes.
Those people will fuck you for cheap.
They won't eat radioactive fish.
They'll fuck you on the cheap.
It's a good move.
This is the end of the show.
Clearly, we ran out of gas.
I'm going to pee.
You guys talk amongst yourselves.
Then we'll wrap this up.
I'll come back and we'll clean it up tidy.
Let's play that little clip.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Let's do that.
Here we go.
Okay, okay, okay.
Joe wants to see it.
Joe wants to see it. Joe wants to see it.
Joe wants to see it.
Snap one off.
So what do these little lamps do?
They're salt Himalayan salt lamps.
Supposedly they have some kind of energy that comes off of them,
but I don't buy it.
I think Joe's just a hippie.
He's a closeted hippie.
So they're actually made of salt?
Yeah, they're made out of salt.
Oh, crazy.
So your artwork you do, do you also have like a gallery? so they're actually made of salt or they're made out of salt. Crazy. Um,
so your artwork you do,
do you also have like a,
like a gallery or do you have a,
any online where you can buy posters of your,
of your,
of your stuff?
Abbymartin.org.
You can check out the gallery there.
And,
uh,
I just brought something that I thought you guys would like here,
but yeah,
I do a lot of like abstract art and,
uh,
political art as well. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Did you go to like here. But yeah, I do a lot of abstract art and political art as well.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Did you go to school for art?
No, no.
I think art school's kind of bullshit.
Yeah.
It kind of conforms you to whatever they think art is,
or whatever.
So art, it just started off as mostly,
going to the collage section.
Collage.
Right there.
Bam.
It started off as just mostly an outlet because political activism was dominating my life,
but then it ended up being something that I was able to bridge the two together,
and it just keeps me sane.
I don't get to do it as much as I would like to.
And what is this medium that you're using?
Is this ink?
That is all paint pen and cutouts of paper. I do nothing on the
computer, so that's all just
hand-drawn ink and
collage and
paint pen. Thank you.
Now, do you ever do a live gallery?
Have you ever done that? Like a showing
of your work? Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I did a lot of art shows in the past
and I did my first political installation.
That's a line of riot cops I took a photo of and then just drew over it.
What did I miss?
You missed a lot of shit, dude.
Yeah, you stopped.
Did I miss out?
We're looking at her artwork at abbymartin.org.
I love when I don't know something about somebody.
It turns out they're badass at shit.
Yeah.
That's pretty sweet.
I like finding that shit, too.
Look at you. Badass too. Look at here.
Badass artist.
Look at her.
What's the video?
Can you introduce it?
Yes, okay.
So this is a little compilation promo that I made of what I think are the best clips
of the entire first season of Breaking the Set, which is the show I have on RT America.
So this is kind of just a little two-minute preview of what the fuck the show's about.
Okay.
Check it out.
F*** the media. F*** the media.
F*** the candidates.
F*** the corporatocracy.
How rude.
I can't wait for this f***ing s*** to be over.
Word.
New York Times.
Welcome to the This Administration Has No Credibility Club.
Remind me again why it is that people are worshipping kings and queens in the year 2013.
So I have a novel idea.
Instead of blaming the whistleblower
for trying to evade death by way of the Espionage Act, you actually talk about what the NSA revelations
are. In a Constitutional Republic democracy, this is not informed consent by those who are governed.
This is manufactured consent, and actually, it's core consent in secret. Guys, this is not about
safety. It's not about terrorism. This is about chilling dissent
and controlling society. Live, live, die, die, die. Isn't he dead already? You can't conduct these
kinds of wars around the world, killing innocent people in the pursuit of a few bad guys and
pretend that it's not going to come back to hurt you. Did you find the logic flawed now looking
back? Do you regret your vote to invade and occupy a country
to find one man?
See, we ought to be critical
of highly concentrated forms of power wherever we find it
because that kind of power
is usually subject to chronic abuse.
Hello, Abby.
I'm Stephanie from Nestle.
We saw the video you posted on YouTube
criticizing Nestle over water. So here's our
response. Walmart's also been described as an economic death star, destroying everything
in its path, leaving behind nothing more than a homogenous wasteland. So the harmless activist
is now the criminal, yet actual criminal banksters run free. Well, I'm glad this government has
its priorities straight.
So, do you shackle down your mind and subscribe to old school paradigms? Or do you liberate
yourself by acknowledging reality? Sure, the world would lose its innocence, but wouldn't
you rather know the truth?
Powerful Abby Martin.
You're all angry and shit.
I'm all pissed.
You're like causing a revolution or something.
I'm just pissed.
And you don't see people who are like, I don't know.
Pissed on TV?
Yeah.
But RT allows you to be pissed.
But I should say that you're very pleasant, you know, by saying you're angry.
You're kind of angry when you're doing these clips.
If someone didn't know you and they saw that, would think like wow this is like really intense check but
you're very pleasant you're very normal that's fine it is funny that you say that because everyone
i've met they're like wow you you seem like you're really intense i'm like i just yeah i'm pissed off
when i'm talking about the shit but i can also be a normal person who can like have conversations
about different things yeah ultimately it all boils down, you can't deny what's going on.
And so many people are.
And if it's not for people like you that come up and go,
Hey,
quite honestly,
what the fuck is happening?
If that doesn't happen,
and it's a real controversial thing.
And I,
I applaud you.
I mean,
this is going to sound condescending,
but I have to say it in this way.
Anyway,
I applaud you for doing it even more because you're a woman.
Because I know that a lot of men don't want to hear women talk about important issues.
There's a weird thing, especially old-school-y type men.
How many dudes in their 50s want to listen to some...
How old are you? 29 or something like that?
Yeah, 29-year-old chick with a fucking smart mouth talking shit about our military or whatever.
You know, like, they don't want to hear that shit.
Like, old dudes don't want to hear that at all.
So it takes a lot of balls or whatever you have, ovaries.
It takes a lot of ovaries.
It takes a lot of courage to be able to do that.
It's a tricky situation when you start talking about shit
that other people should have taken care of.
It's like, because you're not just saying to old dudes, like, hey, dickhead,
you know, like, are you paying attention to what's going on?
Like, this is what the government's doing to you.
You're also saying, hey, how did you let this happen?
You were the ones that were in charge.
What are you doing there?
Accident.
You were the ones who were in charge of this.
Like, you guys allowed this to happen.
Like, anybody that's upset at the way the situation is right now,
who had anything to do with it, look at yourself.
Look at yourself.
Don't get mad at Edward Snowden.
Yeah, and I think people have told me,
why don't you provide more solutions?
Or you're like, fear-mongering and stuff.
I'm like, look, we all need to get this information first
before we can even get to what we can do about it.
We don't fucking know any of this shit
because we've been conditioned to not knowing it. The media is controlled
by six corporations.
Six corporations that work in concert with the
establishment to push their narrative.
Six corporations that about 120 people
sit on the boards of directors of that also sit on the boards
of directors of defense contractors.
Monsanto.
This is what's controlling. It's the corporatocracy.
Yeah.
Media is allowed to lie. It's about entertainment. That's the corporatocracy. Yeah. Yeah. Media is allowed to lie.
It's about entertainment.
It's not about providing information.
So it's a shame that I have to work for Russian government to provide the truth about my own country.
And it's a shame that there's no outlet here that will allow me to do that.
It's amazing that this is like when we think about Russia, when you think about Putin, you think about like,
oh, don't piss that fucking guy off.
Like those people are crazy.
Like those people are gangsters as fuck.
But we don't think about that
when it comes to this country.
Right.
But meanwhile,
look what the fuck is going on.
Like look at this.
The Edward Snowden thing
is a classic situation.
They're offering political asylum
to a guy that exposed
a worldwide spying program.
Who else is spying? Is the UK spying?
They're spying too, right? They're spying, yeah. Is China spying?
Everyone's spying. Everyone's spying, right?
Is that what's going on? The US is spying on fucking
Brazilians. It's like, why the fuck are we spying
on Brazilians? Never know. What the hell is going on?
That ass. Got to get that
ass. Got to get that Brazilian
ass. Could be they found out about chujas
careers. You ever eat at Fogo de Chon?
You ever eat at one of those places? That's how you're supposed to say
it if you're cultured, by the way. You don't say chow.
Fogo de Chow, you don't say that. You say chon.
Chon. Yeah. But it's funny
when the media is acting like, oh, it's a thumb in
the eye. It's a middle finger of the U.S. It's like, well, actually
the U.S. set the double standard years ago
when we denied repeated extradition requests
of actual criminals from Russia.
Russia has fucking asked us to extradite
multiple criminals. And we've said no.
Same with Ecuador. Same with Venezuela.
Yeah, but we didn't want to.
Right. But so why are we acting so shocked
when other countries don't do it? Why are we acting
so shocked when Russia's like, no, we're not going to extradite
this guy? Isn't it funny that we keep saying
we? Yeah. I need to stop doing
that. I try to too
But it's so easy to do
I know
It's so easy to go
We're the ones who
Right
That's what pisses people off though
I know
They're like
Don't call it we
Yeah
Well okay
It's somebody
Yeah
This should
Yeah
It should be a better account
Of what the fuck we stands for
Yeah it's like
I'm sick of just saying
Like the US government
Yeah
The this
Well that's like
That's the real problem
With like conspiracy theory type talk.
The government's trying to, how much of the government?
Because the government itself, it's the IRS, the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, a lot of them which don't even like each other.
Yeah.
Even though we have, it's not us necessarily doing it.
We are sponsoring it with our tax dollars.
So it really is we in a general sense.
Sure.
In a very general sense.
Very general sense. But when we think of, like, the responsibility for the actual action itself, and then we say we in a general sense. Sure. In a very general sense. Very general sense.
But when we think of like responsibility for the actual action itself, and then we say
we did this in Afghanistan, we did this in Iraq.
I didn't fucking slaughter any Afghanis or Iraqis.
It gets real tricky when you get into the we.
Strange times, Abby Martin.
Do you think about that?
Like you're historically, to be a reporter, this is one of the weirdest times ever.
It's one of the weirdest times ever to be witnessing sort of society boiling.
I guess, though, the statement holds true that every time was the weirdest time for that time.
Right, right.
But this is the weirdest time ever.
Yeah, I think about that a lot.
I think because of the advancement of technology and the fact that we are so interconnected
and know about all the horrible shit going on at any given time, does it just seem like
it's so much more fucked up now because we have access to all of that?
We get like an AP Newsler when everything horrible happens?
I don't know.
Or is there really more horrible shit going on?
I don't know.
Well, we definitely have more.
If you hear that, it's not me peeing.
It's pouring a little coffee.
I think we definitely have more access.
There's no question about that.
So we're going to hear more stories about things that have happened.
But I wish I knew how much of it is affecting the actual things that we do.
I don't know about that.
Well, that's the problem is all we hear on the corporate media is shit that doesn't affect us.
Jody Arias case, Zimmerman.
I mean, in a grand scheme of things, you can argue that, yes, the stand your ground laws definitely affect people, but did it warrant that much
coverage for weeks and weeks and weeks and every detail of the case? Well, here's a perfect example
today. Think about all the shit that's going on in the world today. I mean, there's giant chunks,
Manhattan size are falling off of fucking Greenland. They're huge chunks of ice, right? We all know about
that. We all know about this Bradley Manning
thing. We all know about this Edward Snowden
thing. We all know about what the fuck is
going on with Iran. What's happening
with North Korea? We all know about that.
But the front page of CNN,
I'm fighting for my life.
It's A-Rod.
Because he's suspended
for a year. You know he only has 270 million dollars
what will he do if he is forced to take a a whole year off for using roads i don't feel
fucking bad for him stop what you're saying what are you a communist
this is front page news for a reason because this is the most important story in America
A-Rod suspended
but in lineup during appeal
so he's allowed to go in the lineup
so we can go, how is this going to play out
it becomes grand drama
salacious as fuck
you know what terrified me is
Vice is so awesome, I love that you've been interviewing Shane Smith
yeah, he's awesome
oh wow, I've called him taking roads too.
Woo.
No, but the Venice, the Venice one where he was like, Venice is underwater.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Like underwater for a hundred days out of the year.
It's just, that's how much the ocean's rising right now.
So it's like the people who are arguing. So how much of Venice is accessible?
They've just built bridges all over.
So people just walk on these like platforms all over the city. Wow. So what happens? A hundred days out of the year it's totally over. So people just walk on these platforms all over the city.
Wow.
So what happens-
Hundreds of years totally flooded.
So is it rising?
How much of a difference is it from before?
It's been progressively rising.
And Shane Smith is just like, look, these people who are arguing about, is global warming man-made?
Is climate change man-made?
It doesn't fucking matter.
It's happening now.
Right.
We don't need to have the argument about fucking-
Who did it?
Yeah.
We did a lot of shit. Yeah. Shit's fucked up and bullshit.'t need to have the argument about fucking Who did it? We did a lot of shit.
Shit's fucked up and bullshit.
What are we going to do about it?
That's a quote somewhere in the bottom
of a message board now. Abby Martin.
Shit's fucked up and bullshit. That's going to be in the bottle.
The cork bottle. Yeah, that's a real
good point. There was an article about Miami.
They were talking about Miami and within the
decade we'll be underwater. They're like,
you can't stop it. Also because Miami apparently is on a very porous limestone.
It's not hard ground because it's not just at sea level.
Great. It's like a giant sponge.
Yeah. So they're saying that it's going to be crazy.
It's all just going to be a marsh.
You're not going to be able to get to your condo.
I think the problem with the whole argument is people like Al Gore who are actually profiting off the solutions.
The carbon credit thing
I think is bullshit.
You can't trade pollution
and somehow think
that's going to be
fucking the answer.
So I think,
and then when you see
things like
the meat industry
not getting penalized
for the fact that
they are creating
the majority of
carbon output.
Is it the meat industry
that's doing that?
It's the methane
coming from farts.
Cow farts?
Yeah. So the methane from cow farts. Cow farts? Yeah.
So the methane from cow farts are the biggest problem
the world has ever known.
I think it's a large
percentage of carbon emissions, but
the fact that we're not even talking about that, it's like
the burdens put on
the consumer where we're like, calculate your carbon
footprint. I think people are like, what the fuck is going on?
I can solve this. We need to put
cups over the back of cows' butts,
tape those bitches down, and capture all that methane.
Just capture it. You know what? Put them in the dome
like that Stephen King book. Put all the cows
inside of the dome. Is that one of those cows that has a
Look at the balls. Jesus Christ.
Look at the size of that fucking bull.
They could capture it.
Why can't they capture it? Can't they figure out a way
to dome them cows in and suck
all the methane out of their dogs?
Dome them cows.
You could put a man in orbit
in a space station floating
above the planet and he could fucking
twitter from up there. You telling me
you can't dome up a few cows and suck
them farts? Turn them into resources?
Isn't that possible?
It seems like it should be possible.
It should be, right?
Yeah, if we can figure out how to do satellites,
we should be able to figure out how to suck methane out of the air.
Out of cows' asses.
The future, gloomy or rosy?
Abby Martin.
I think it depends on your perspective.
I hate people who are like, oh, I don't look at positive or negative news.
Tell your grandma's impression of your grandma.
Oh, I don't look at you.
Oh, I don't look at news because it makes me sad.
I don't have email.
Or like, oh, I'm just really positive.
I just like don't.
Oh, no, that's just too negative.
It's like, well, this is fucking reality.
So you're going to intake reality and figure out how you're going to relay your own message of what reality is.
Like that's fucking truth.
So if you're going to reject a whole portion of the world
because you don't want to fucking be negative,
then that didn't really answer your question.
I think that it can go either way.
It does.
You're just sort of hedging your bets.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It can go either way, right?
Do you think, do you have a responsibility,
being in a position where people are listening to you,
to talk about certain things?
I think, yeah.
I mean, I think I have the responsibility.
Or is it just natural?
I mean, I've been passionate about this.
I started off as an anti-war activist, and then I just went from there realizing that
all this shit was censored.
Why is it censored?
And then getting into media.
And so I've been passionate about this stuff since I was 17.
You know, out in the streets doing activism.
You were in the streets at 17?
Mm-hmm.
What are you doing out there?
Fucking trying to lobby against us not blowing Iraq up.
When you were 17?
Yeah.
Wow.
How many people listened?
They're like, bitch, come on.
You're fucking 17.
How many people listened to 17-year-olds?
Yeah.
It's an unfortunate aspect.
Well, what's crazy is that there was millions of people in the street saying the same thing, but we were ignored.
When you see Occupy, Wall Street, and shit like that, do you think that that has a positive effect?
Absolutely.
You think so?
Yeah.
I think that it really got the debate into the 99% versus the 1% kind of realizing that we all have so many problems and when people
demonized Occupy and saying oh you guys
can't get a consolidated message what the fuck
is this all about it's like well there's fucking
99 problems like
and a bitch ain't one but no I mean
there's seriously so many problems facing us
and it all stems from the same system so
I don't blame the movement for not
galvanizing behind one message the problem
with Occupy is that it was so
inclusive that it would be like homeless
people would be doing open mics and shit.
Mic checks.
It's like, dude, you can't...
Mic check! Mic check!
And everyone's like, mic check!
I need a cigarette!
I need a cigarette!
I need a cigarette!
Well, there was a cultural aspect
to the whole Occupy thing
that got a little strange, and that was that mic check thing.
People would do that in courthouses.
Mic check! And people would yell it out.
It was very military.
I think there needs to be some sort of leadership.
But then again, I think that there needs to be...
If we had a true democracy, it would be...
And I think if we had people actually having democratic input, but the thing is we don't have that.
We have like what one delegate that can go and fucking, the electoral college is bullshit.
We don't even have like direct representation.
So it's just, it was a good concept.
And I think it's the start of it.
You know, it was cracked down brutally by militarized riot police all across the country on a federal level i saw it firsthand i was in oakland living there and it was a fucking police
state dude i was like why are you guys expelling so many resources to shut down a little camp of
like 100 people it's like fucking a thousand police full riot riot gear at like treating it
like a riot like i don't understand if you have If you're dressed as a paramilitary troop,
I don't understand why you need to be
using these crowd control methods
if there's no riot.
I don't know.
It's just bizarre.
It's the old generation
fighting the new generation.
It's part of what it always is going to be.
There's always going to be
a resisting of change
and trying to fight back
the angry hordes.
It's very similar. If you're dressed like a troop, you're going to fight back the angry hordes. I mean, it's very similar.
If you're dressed like a troop, you're going to act like a fucking soldier.
You know what I've described it as?
You're going to treat us like an enemy.
I've described Operation Occupy Wall Street as being sort of like white blood cells.
Like they're going around the infected area.
They don't know what the fuck they're going to do, but they're making it inflamed.
They're causing attention.
Like when you get an infection
on your knee and you look down, your knee's swollen, that's sort of like white blood cells
on Occupy Wall Street. You look down in these areas where these people are camped out and
screaming and yelling and doing mic checks all day, and like, that's inflammation. You've got
an inflammation spot. You've got a sore. You've got a dirty little sore right there. It's there for a reason.
So, future Rosie?
Can we say Rosie?
Yeah.
Possibly?
I think it needs to get worse before it gets better,
but I have faith in humanity, and I think that we can pull things around,
and I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing
if I didn't believe that.
Do you like working for RT?
I do.
I have an amazing amount of editorial control
over what I say.
Did you ever think that you'd say
that you'd like working for Russia?
No. It's a pretty fucked up world, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. an amazing amount of editorial control Did you ever think that you'd say that you'd like working for Russia? No
It's a pretty fucked up world, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah
It's just twisted, it's like
I never thought that I'd be having to do that
to tell the truth
It's crazy
Powerful, powerful, Abby Martin
So you can follow Abby Martin on Twitter
It's just Abby Martin, right?
Abby Martin
And is there a website for your show?
Just look up
Breaking the Set
on YouTube
and I also have
Media Roots
as my media organization
on the side.
AbbyMartin.org.
Anything else to say
to fine people
before you bolt?
Yeah, just fucking
the truth is enlightening.
Don't reject it.
Embrace it.
And express yourself
and if you're passionate
about something
it's your responsibility
to express that in whatever medium you choose.
But don't reject the truth and don't turn it off because we got to fucking progress.
In other words, get it together, bitches, with much love for all.
Spread the love and you shall receive.
We will see you guys later this week with Greg Fitzsimmons will be stopping by.
And I got some other shit going on too.
I'm going to try to bring in
one of these dudes
that are angry at me,
the Chemtrail dudes
and have them sit down
unedited for several hours
and let them express themselves
because they're so pissed at me.
Can we bring the Bigfoot guy
in too at the same time?
Why not?
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