The Joe Rogan Experience - #400 - Joey "CoCo" Diaz, Duncan Trussell

Episode Date: October 4, 2013

Joey "CoCo" Diaz is a Cuban-American stand up comedian and actor. Joey also hosts his own podcast called "The Church of What's Happening Now" available on Spotify. Duncan Trussell is a stand-up comed...ian, and host of his own podcast "The Duncan Trussell Family Hour" available on Spotify.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. I love Lucy. How many episodes of I Love Lucy? You can sit there for fucking two years and not watch I Love Lucy. He has a kid, they go to Panama, they meet Superman. He puts the fingerprint. How many fucking I Love Lucy's?
Starting point is 00:00:19 Real quick, not to throw you off. How? I only take three shroom texts because one time I took like five, dog, and I couldn't control myself. Really? Like when I started doing the shroom tech, I would go to the epileptical and I could only do seven to nine. The epileptical. I could only do seven. I could only do seven to nine minutes.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Yeah. And I would start getting stressed out. Now with the shroom tech, I can do 45 and that's because I get scared. I get off. I hit the bag before I get on the epileptical now. Yeah. For 30. So that's how much, you know, I've been working on it for fucking five months.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Right. But the Shroom Tech, you're supposed to take them towards body weight, correct? Yes. You know, and I don't even know how to do the math on that. So I just take three of them just to be safe. Right. But they're fucking, I'm telling you, man, I like them. Yeah, I take five. That's the biggest thing.
Starting point is 00:01:08 You take five. I take five of those before I work out. That's crazy. It's just a lot of B12. A lot of B12 and a lot of quarter steps mushroom. And, you know, there's nothing bad for you. I've never had a bad experience from taking five. I wouldn't advise people to take five. I would say cut it off at two. I take three. I get gangster with them.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I found all these football players were getting gangster with it. they take like five alpha brains and six room techs and i was like these guys are gigantic so i'm like i'll try five and see what five is like but isn't that follow you at that same rule that guy told you like don't take too much of you know like boner pills or something yeah well it's it's really i would say yes but it's really it's all natural it's not it's nothing like radicals happening to your body. It's not a stimulant. I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't take more than five.
Starting point is 00:01:49 You know what's going to happen because of this? You're going to be watching CNN.com, and you're going to hear about some psychopath wandering into D.C. with a shotgun, and then pictures of Alpha Brain are going to start flashing up. He had 700 bottles in the backseat of his car. Please, he would be enlightened. He wouldn't be going with a gun. He would be going with hugs.
Starting point is 00:02:10 He'd try to hug him, and they'd shoot him. Yeah, that gets you killed faster than guns. There was a woman. She was suffering from postpartum, and she was driving around. She was on some sort of medication. Yeah. Driving around the White House, and she got in a gunfight with the popo. They wound up killing her.
Starting point is 00:02:27 She had a baby in her car. I mean, it's so crazy. Every time I see stuff like that, I think, man, I wish you could do that in Grand Theft Auto. It's like you can't drive kids around. If you notice that, there's no kids in Grand Theft Auto. Not a single kid. Why would you want to drive little fake kids around?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Why not? I want it to be realistic. Drop them off at school, drive them off cliffs. Wow. And kill dogs in it, though. Yeah, that's where we draw the line. You can't have fake killing of babies. If you encourage that in any way, shape, or form,
Starting point is 00:03:00 and then it somehow becomes a reality, like someone decides to make sport of killing babies because it's a part of a video game, it's going to be a real problem. How fucking crazy is it that this is happening now every three weeks, people? It's pretty crazy. This is not even a joke no more.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Like, it's happening every three weeks, and you know what? It's going to happen around here, at a fucking park, at a stupid basketball game, at a fucking taco place. There's a lot of issues. A lot taco place. There's a lot of issues. A lot of issues.
Starting point is 00:03:27 There's a lot of fucking issues. And I'm sitting there going, you know, is this a setup? There's somebody hanging out outside a fucking psychiatrist's office, and when they see some fucking guy come out, they give him a gun and $20 and say, what? I mean, what the fuck is going on? I don't think that. I don't know what to think anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I think it's natural. That's what I think. Really? When you have this many people... It was this natural? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying it's natural when you get this many people that are on, first of all, on drugs. You have a massive amount of people in this country that are on all sorts of drugs. Whether they
Starting point is 00:03:59 need them or not, the reality is the amount of people that are on prescription medication is very high. Then you're going to have natural amounts of mental illness. When you have a high population, you have higher amounts of mental illness. They've shown this in rat population density studies apparently. I was listening to this podcast about it. I think it was Psychedelic Salon where McKenna was talking.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I forget. It might have been Art Bell. Either way. They were talking about rat population density studies, that they did the same thing with rats, where they started them small, and put like 100 rats in a room together, or 10 rats or whatever,
Starting point is 00:04:36 and they just kept ramping it up until they were on top of each other. And when they were on top of each other, they started exhibiting the same sort of mental illnesses that you see in people. Like they stand in the corner and would just shake and rock back and forth. They couldn't handle it. You start to see all sorts of weird aberrant behavior. And they think it's from the overstimulation because when you get to a population density like that, it's very difficult
Starting point is 00:04:57 for the human body to tolerate. It's very difficult for the human body to deal with the sheer numbers of people that you interact with on a daily basis. It's almost completely unnatural for us. And so the idea is that in these scenarios, most of us can keep it together, but there's going to be a certain amount that have mental illness and coupled with a certain amount of extra stress that our highly populated cities are providing with a certain amount of extra craziness because they're on prescription medication
Starting point is 00:05:26 and then just the stress of life, period. Being unemployed. All that together, being unemployed, financial stuff. Boom. Powder keg. But isn't this stuff happening mostly in the United States and other overpopulated countries? You don't hear about these massacres happening. You do about some.
Starting point is 00:05:42 The one in Finland where the guy murdered those kids. That's right. There was the guy in Finland. Was that in Finland or Iceland? I think it was Finland. Remember when Joe the Big One was in San Diego when the kid went into McDonald's? Yeah. Remember the kids?
Starting point is 00:05:54 That was the big one. That's it. You heard about it. You went home and there was a special eyewitness news report. They were in San Diego and the guy had a shotgun. That was, you you know now it seems like you expect it it's a daily occurrence now well some are worse than others it's also there's a lot of people out there that feel disenfranchised and there's a lot of people out
Starting point is 00:06:14 there that they don't they don't feel like they can make a dent in this world unless they do something really bad there's there's people out there that feel like to get notice and to get people to recognize them, they can do that if they do something really bad. I think it's a love famine. I think people are starving for love. People in the United States don't express love in a normal way. It's a really weird thing.
Starting point is 00:06:41 You know like you might be around friends or even just talking to your brother or something and you have like that like you might be around friends or even just talking to your brother or something and you have this impulse where you want to say i love you man i love you but you don't you don't do it there's a thing that triggers in you where you you you feel i'm not gonna say that i'm gonna sound weak right and i i think that's what it is i think people are just so turned around backwards uh as to the flow the the flow of nature, the flow of life, that they're sort of malfunctioning because of that. Yeah, there could be that for sure.
Starting point is 00:07:13 There's also this weird transitionary period the human race is going into as we get more and more information on a daily basis from the internet. It's more and more obvious that the world we live in is fucked it's like the system's terrible we know that we can operate as individuals and we can be really friendly with each other you know we can the people in this room can we can party we can live together we can if it was just us on the planet we were the only people that we interacted with we'd have a great time so why is it that when you get massive amounts of people, all of a sudden there's all this death and there's all this fucking fighting and there's all this chaos and there's all this lawsuits and bullshit? What is it?
Starting point is 00:07:54 What is it about numbers? Sounds like the fucking Kardashians. Here's the other thing. Two people can have a life now. You and Duncan can own a business. Do you know that? And not even talk to each other. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:07 You can live in your home and Duncan can live in your home. You don't have to talk to each other. I'm very insecure. Why do you think I don't like texting? Why? I'm insecure. I want to hear you. Oh, you want to hear the person's voice.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I want to hear you. I don't want to know texting. And you don't want even voicemail messages either because you want to communicate. I want to talk to you. I'm old school because I don't want to ever lose that. Yeah. That's a fucking good point. I don't know how to say the word.
Starting point is 00:08:31 We're disenfranchising ourselves from ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. And that some people can handle it and some people can't. I can't handle it. You know, I was fucking 30 when I was 20. So I'm an old soul. I like it.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I like the contact. To me, I need to hear your voice. Want to hear one of the all-time best douchebag actor stories? Yes. I'm at a restaurant once, and this douchebag actor's there. And he's by himself eating, and I think he's crazy. And he starts talking to a couple that's near them. Like, they're sitting by themselves on a date.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And, you know, he's fairly famous. So he starts talking to them. Like, sitting by themselves on a date. He's fairly famous. He starts talking to them. How long have you two been together? They don't know what to do, but they recognize him, so it's weird. They are stuck in this thing where they have to talk to the guy.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I'm watching this play out. He's talking to him. He tells the woman that she's an old soul. Jesus Christ. He told her she was an old soul you really seem like an old soul you guys really there's i sense something with you too like this is an amazing relationship isn't it it was so fucking strange and i was like get me out of this town. Get me out of here, you people, with your
Starting point is 00:09:47 fucking emotional support dogs. I told you about that shit. No, I see a guy bigger than me get on a plane with a French poodle. I was cracked right there. Bigger than me! 400, 480, 500, with a fucking French poodle. Go ahead, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's hilarious. Just don't even get me to let you fucking know. Just don't even get me started on that fucking issue. L.A. people have figured out that there's a workaround to this Americans with Disabilities Act. Yes. And you can say that your dog provides you with emotional support. And you can be like a regular person. And you can go into a restaurant with a fucking Labrador.
Starting point is 00:10:24 See, this is a thing this is this is a thing i gotta confess when i was with natasha we would we realized this trick that you can put a red vest on the dog with a little cross on it you can order them on the internet and legally people can't ask you what your disability is so it's like because when you know when you see somebody with a chihuahua, it might cross your mind to think, how is this thing going to help them if they start having a seizure? Like what's it really going to do?
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's going to let you know he's dead. Bark, bark. Bark, bark, bark. So we started saying that we were doing that. And then, man, got some emails from people who are disabled. And they're like, you have to to understand i have to have this dog like it's trained to either guide me it's trained to like help me if i have a seizure and every time you assholes put one of those fake vests on a fucking dog so that you can go and eat in a nice restaurant with it you're making it that more much more difficult for me to do it because people are
Starting point is 00:11:24 getting increasingly suspicious and increasingly suspicious where they used to not be at all. So just leave your fucking dog at home if you want to go eat pasta. Don't get in the way of people who are actually fucking sick. Yeah, you cunts. You cunts. I was one of those cunts. In Columbus, Ohio, Christina Kaczynski and Tom Segura brought their dog using the same thing.
Starting point is 00:11:47 See, that shit is so ridiculous. People with dogs think that just because they love their dogs, that dirty, stinky, open-assed animal can just be allowed. Yes, it is. They're rubbing their little asses on chairs, and that ass on the chair could have worms in it. And the microscopic worms could get in my hand. And I could get worms. That's real. It's a dog, man.
Starting point is 00:12:11 It's a fucking dog. It's creepy enough that people drop silverware on the floor and pick it up and still use it. Yes. Like you're going to wipe off with a napkin all the fucking shit eggs that are stuck to the bottom of your shoe. My dog's shit eggs are clean. Dude. I love dogs. You know I clean. Dude, I love dogs. You know I do.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I've always had dogs. But bringing dogs to a restaurant is a massive douchebag move. How about on a fucking plane? It's just as bad. How about on a plane when you have to sit next to somebody with a fucking dog? Listen, I love animals too, but I don't expect somebody else to like them.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I'm old school. You want to listen to music, put your fucking earphones on and I'll put mine on. You don't have to hear each other's shit. You might like something different. So I'm the same way. I feel like if I was to walk into somebody's space with a dog they didn't even know, I'd be fucking feeling weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I don't know. That's just how I was built up. Like, I'm taking, I'm wasting your fucking time. And there's people who think they can do that shit on fire. And I know it guides you for emotional support, but so does a pot brownie. You eat a little half of a pot brownie, go to a restaurant, you're okay.
Starting point is 00:13:13 You can leave the fucking dog in the car with the air on and, you know. Some people can't leave the dog anywhere. They want that dog with them all the time. I love my cats. I worry about earthquakes. Most people who ate... If people ate pot brownies like you eat pot brownies They want that dog with them all the time. I love my cats. I worry about earthquakes. Most people who ate. You got to.
Starting point is 00:13:33 If people ate pot brownies like you eat pot brownies and went into restaurants, they would need emotional support. No, no, no. I'm talking about I've had conversations with people that do not smoke marijuana. They're not potheads. They eat brownies. And they've given up. They eat little pieces of brownies. They'll buy like a hundred milligram brownie on Monday at Divine Wellness. And it lasts them four days.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And they drive to Warner Brothers and they communicate with people. And they threw away their fucking pills. Wow. Okay. I know. What pills were they on? You know, the shit that they give you when you go to the doctor and tell them that you hear voices. Whatever the fuck they give you.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Whatever they give you, Joe. Adderall. I don't think they give you Adderall. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry, guys. I don't know. It's not my world. I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:14:13 That's how I meant it. I didn't mean it in a funny way. It's real tricky to decide what medication is right for anybody. I think it's real tricky to try to figure out how another person's mind works. And that seems to be the issue that they have when they're prescribing those medications in the first place. When our friend was on them, I think one of the things that came up was that they had to constantly change his
Starting point is 00:14:34 dose and give him different stuff. And they were like, try this. Tell me how you feel on this. It's that simple. They give you stuff to try. And you're like, well, I guess I feel good. Okay. You think that's a good dose? And you're like, well, I guess I feel good. Okay. You think that's a good dose? And you're like, well, I feel pretty good. Everything seems pretty good today.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Like, okay. All right, we're going to keep you at that dose. And when they start doing shit like that, it becomes very subjective. Why does this one work really good on you and that one work really good on him? I was on Zoloft when I was in college. Why were you on it? I got depressed. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:04 What was getting you depressed? You know when I was in college. Why were you on it? I got depressed. Wow. What was getting you depressed? You know, I don't know. I'm not really sure that I completely figured it out, but I don't know. How long were you on it for? I was on it for probably six months, and I couldn't come. It made it so that I couldn't come anymore like i could i could get it i could get it get it up but i couldn't ejaculate i couldn't wow couldn't have any orgasm that's brian's favorite new drug i know what's this called zola all right it's also
Starting point is 00:15:35 really bad for your brain though dude especially if you're not supposed to be well it was you know what it did what it did was it it did produce this uh feeling that i now associate with when i'm being really healthy like when i'm meditating a lot or exercising regular eating right or when i get all my ducks in a row this nice clear tranquility will generally come over things that i'm not my mind isn't reactive when any weird shitty thing happens it's like you just are sort of at this nice tranquil level it kind of kind of reproduced that at the cost of not being able to have orgasms and then um i just stopped taking it and went out in the woods because i was working in the summer camp went out in the woods for a shot load like a donkey with a cattle prod up his ass.
Starting point is 00:16:27 First time coming after how long? God, I don't know, man. It was a while. I mean, it's not like I couldn't come. It's just like it took forever. Like, if you've ever taken a narcotic and tried to jerk off, it's like that. It's like it just doesn't happen. It's like that. But you can do it if you really apply yourself and work really hard and like
Starting point is 00:16:46 you can like squeeze some jizz after it's over does it feel like you accomplished something yeah yeah it feels like you put your cock in a pencil sharpener because you've been jerking off for an hour straight i've had twice at two points in my life i've jerked off to the point where I had a blister on my dick Like a blister yeah, no like it's no and like it like a red spot where I like Twice To dry jacking
Starting point is 00:17:17 And two separate occasions in my life. I did that that's how stupid I am Beat off to my dick Hey when you're young and hey when you're young especially when you're young and single especially if you're trying to stay single like you're trying to be focused in your career it was when I was very young when you're trying to be focused in your career the last thing you want to do is be thinking about sex and just for me my solution was just beat off on the reg that man it was and then becomes an addiction really that
Starting point is 00:17:44 should be in the Constitution, where before politicians make big decisions they have to masturbate. I bet this shutdown wouldn't happen. If, like, Boehner and Obama had to jerk off before they decided to do whatever they were going to do.
Starting point is 00:17:59 It would definitely be less tense. Is it still shut down? It's still shut down. I got about 22 fucking hate emails the other day when I went out the other night to work out on the way home. It was 20 to 10, and I saw the weed store open. I go, let me go in there. And on the way home, it dawned on me that it's 20 to 10, and the weed store is still open. The way I worded it was the government shut down.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And the weed store is still open. And the weed store is still open and will be for the next two hours. Fuck it, I got hate mail. Fuck you, you fat fuck. Why is that bad? Why would you get hate mail from them? Because people were like, you don't understand what's going on with the government.
Starting point is 00:18:35 This is bad. This is all because of Obama. Guys, it's a fucking tweet. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. What's wrong with you? This is why it shut down. Because a fucking Momo's like you.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, don't get mad at Joey Diaz for stating the obvious. Can you believe that? Because every time there's a stupid article or something on Twitter and on the media, we get fucking Twitter from people across the country like haters. Hey, man, they're going to shut the fucking stores down. What are you going to do then? No more. And all of a sudden, these fucking stores are still rocking
Starting point is 00:19:06 and rolling. Denver is rocking and rolling. I was in Portland last week and those motherfuckers don't know what it is not to smoke. You know, those fucking savages up there. They walk around with pot trees and shit and knapsacks. I mean, that's it. They have no idea. So
Starting point is 00:19:21 all of a sudden the government shut down because they got no GEDIS. But these fucking states got so much GEDIS and taxes. I think California is broke. But at least they're generating. Let's look up the fucking numbers, people. What's Denver generating? What's Denver?
Starting point is 00:19:36 Did you see that 60-minute show? Well, what they're saying is it literally is going to turn the economy around. Around. This is it. Completely. Clink, clink, clink, clink, clink, clink, clink. And these dummies these by the way who are the same dummies who are anti-drugs it's almost like secretly they want drugs to be legal and the only way they can go about it is to have the government completely
Starting point is 00:19:54 collapse right so they can't regulate them anymore and then the drugs will take over and the drugs will let them understand how they've fucked up the entire country with their cunty egos yeah and then they great then they can apologize it's almost like the only thing that can save them at this point is pot out of all the ones that are dangerous out of all the ones that you want an instant change in the economy of course it's not going to be under corporate control you got to realize that you're ready for that because it's going to be under control but anybody wants to grow pot that's the problem if you make it legal how how legal is it going to be is it going to be legal to grow like a tomato like i have tomatoes in my yard is it
Starting point is 00:20:28 going to be okay if i grow pot in my yard because if that's the case it's pretty easy to do man good luck we're off to the races the whole economy is going to change wasn't there a time when weed was totally legal totally legal and no one even thought about before the 1930s and no one even it wasn't even a thing like if it was just something else you smoked It was so common and so normal and so used as a textile and a commodity like it was so important to the making of clothes and for all sorts of different things that they had before they came out with The decorticated when they came out with a decorticated it led them to to be able to process
Starting point is 00:21:06 this shit really fucking easy. And all the difficulty that they had with processing in the past was gone. One machine completely figured out how to take this hemp and turn it into instantly turn it into what you could use for paper, building materials. Henry Ford made his first fucking car.
Starting point is 00:21:22 He had the fenders made out of hemp. It's an amazing plant It's one of the most durable fucking plants that's ever existed. It's lightweight. It's really weird It's not like any other plant So the idea of making that illegal was so ridiculous that they had to make the name marijuana What they did was Harry Harry Anslinger and Williamandolph hearst and hearst controlled all these newspapers we also controlled all this paper he controlled all these like he made he had forests and these forests would chop down this wood and use it to make paper he was going to have to convert all that to hemp like popular science was saying hemp the new billion dollar crop
Starting point is 00:21:58 like they they got it in because of the actual applications for clothing and nylon and fuel. That's how they got it in. They got it in as a commodity. They essentially banned an incredible natural commodity, one of the greatest ones ever, so that they could have nylon for ropes and shit like that, so that Hearst didn't have to transfer his mills over to hemp paper. There's a bunch of weird economic reasons.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It just stuck so good. In the 1930s, it still stuck. We're running around with the fucking internet with cold syrup and alcohol and fucking antidepressants and everything else. And to this day, one of the best plants that's ever existed on this planet for people is illegal. Illegal. I mean, you don't need any more proof than that, that we're fucking retarded. Like, you want to talk about a backwards-ass civilization. They've got the best plant ever, illegal.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Then nothing else can fuck with it. There's nothing else you can eat, make houses with, make clothes with, and that motherfucker's illegal. It's going to be interesting seeing the population growth for the places that are legal now and seeing if there's a growth in music and arts. Like if Portland becomes the new Seattle in just two years. Well, it's illegal in Portland. It is illegal?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah, it's illegal in Portland. Portland didn't pass. We have stores or whatever. No, you can have medical. They didn't make it legal statewide. They only made it legal statewide. First was Colorado. Second was shortly after was Washington State.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And those are the only two right now that it's actually legal in the state. But we knew that Denver had passed a city law way back in the day where they said weed was legal. They said they were not going to arrest you. Don't smoke it in public. The cops, like like they openly stated they weren't going to do this we used to we used to talk about that on stage back when we're doing the comedy works in the early 2000s yeah it's very strange it's a really strange uh strange phenomenon i think it and if you look at it not just from the economic perspective of why people economically might want to ban it, but also from the consciousness level, because of the state that induces is one of deep introspection. and the effects of it, like what you just said,
Starting point is 00:24:24 and you really explore, like, shit, do I want to be, do I want to subscribe to this system that has actually thrown people in jail for growing a thing that used to be, like, one of the number one substances used? That's the kind of thoughts that come to your mind when you're high, along with a lot of other stuff, like, man, I think I'm a fucking asshole. Did I really just say that to whoever I said that to? Like, I think I'm a fucking asshole. And the more just say that to whoever I said that to? Like, I think I'm a fucking asshole. And the more you start like thinking about stuff like that, that produces the paranoid trip everyone's so afraid of. But if you take that deeper than what you realize is happening is the plant is healing your consciousness.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And it's identifying aspects of yourself that need to be worked on. That's what the effect is. And also, if you get super stoned and just get into a messy room, you'll start organizing the fucking room. Generally, you'll start cleaning and scrubbing because you're externalizing what it's doing to you on the inside, which is organizing all these disparate aspects of your personality and forcing you to at least acknowledge it, if not work on it. And does that kind of balancing agent work with a society based on denial
Starting point is 00:25:28 and a society based on ignoring the fact that the whole thing functions by evaporating human beings and stealing their land? Do you really want a drug that produces that level of understanding in the bloodstream of the population? Well, you do. You don't if you're the one at the helm of the fucking meat machine if you're the one that's pushing the blades across the land and slashing everything in front of it then you don't but if you're everybody else of course you do of course you do right we're all better off high it's never yeah i've never really
Starting point is 00:26:02 known what it is to sit on a couch. You know, I don't play games. No. I don't play video games. I don't even know. Play a little pool. Joey Diaz can play some pool. I grew up in a fucking bar, but my mom had a bar. Joey Diaz can shoot straight.
Starting point is 00:26:12 No way. Joey Diaz shoots straight. Here's the weirdest thing of them all, that weed always kicked my ass. Like, it always fucking beat the fuck out of me. Like, when I smoked it in the morning, like, eight in the morning, it would pattern my day for me. Like, first off, you're not going to sit here. Right. You got to get the fuck out of me. Like, when I smoked it in the morning, like 8 in the morning, it would pattern my day for me. Like, first off, you're not going to sit here. Right. You got to get the fuck out of the house.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Right. Okay? So it made me go out and get, like, I always loved listening to music. So I used to get those any time. Since 1980, I've always had something around my ears, whether it was the big disc. I never had the big ghetto blaster, but I had the disc. I had the disc.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And then it got shorter to the cassette. Yeah. And then it became an iPod.aster, but I had the disc. I had the disc. And then it got shorter to the cassette. Yeah. And then it became an iPod. I don't even know the evolution. I even had the power booster that I bought on 40. You know, in New York, the electronic. Oh, yeah. You know, you could buy anything.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I used to buy Sony used to make an amp that you plugged into the Walkman and you plugged your speakers into the fucking amp. Wow. That's how much of a savage I was. I wanted it loud. Because when you're going to New York City, there wasn't those earbuds. Then it was speakers a savage I was. I wanted it loud. Because when you go into New York City, there wasn't those earbuds then there were speakers, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah. But I wanted it loud. People used to go around with ghetto blasters, remember that? Oh yeah. Fucking ears at the whole neighborhood. They would have their own music.
Starting point is 00:27:16 A hip hop, a hip to the hip. They would like walk down the street like holding on a giant radio. Boom boxes. Like what?
Starting point is 00:27:24 That has got to be one of the weirdest creations. A huge, loud stereo that you carry with you, and dudes would bring them everywhere. Do you remember that? Let me explain something to you. Think of the dudes who did it. It was the same dudes today who have a pit bull. You're right.
Starting point is 00:27:40 The people who had that were people who fucking look kind of scary. Like what? They walk in with the, don't look me, because I'm close. They'll walk into your fucking house with it, blasted. Well, in some ways, it makes life a little bit simpler because you're walking around with a soundtrack. You know, I had one. I had a small one. I remember this.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. That's what they used to carry. That's insane. Look at that thing, man. That looks like something we would plug into to make this show. That looks like the podcast equipment. He's got sliding scales on that thing. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:28:14 You're turning on Huey Lewis and the News full blast. It's hip to be spare. I don't think that guy listened to Huey Lewis and the News. No, he's probably listening to some... If you have one of these, nobody ever took it from you. Cool G Rap and DJ Polo. Nobody get mugged on their fucking stereo. Like, dog, please help us find it.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I'm sure someone must have, Joey. People steal everything. Did you see this? Yeah, this is... Yeah, I saw that. Did you see that? Un-fucking-believable. Joey's in the far right.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's insane. Look at my shoulders. You were so cute. Check out the sexy legs. Lucky seven. Can you get it so just his whole body fills the screen? No, I was 44. I was 44.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It was no lucky seven. Yeah, like that. Look at that. Wow. That's so crazy. Wow. Look at you, dude. So how old are you in this picture?
Starting point is 00:29:05 14. 14. God damn, Joey. You how old are you in this picture? 14. 14. God damn, Joey, you're cute as a button. Look at David Ruiz. Turn around and talk into the microphones so other people can hear this, too. That kid right there. Joey, it's up on this screen, too. That kid with the afro was a very interesting story.
Starting point is 00:29:19 This guy right here? Because we were a horrible basketball team at McKinley. Can you go full screen for that? And he moved in to our neighborhood. Does it do that? He could jump. He was 5'8", but this kid could fucking jump like Julius Irving. So he was Dominican.
Starting point is 00:29:32 His name was Louie Hernandez. I'm from Jersey. They just cut it short and called him Louie the Nigger. They said, fuck it. We don't care if he's Dominican. We're not going to even think about that. We're just going to. This is David Ruiz.
Starting point is 00:29:43 They called him that to his face, too. Like Louis. Did he get pissed? Fuck you, bitch. He was a tough kid. Did he get mad at you when you called him? Sometimes. I think he bit-slapped two or three people.
Starting point is 00:29:54 But the best thing he did was, we used to do acid. When we first started smoking weed in the eighth grade, we'd go behind a soccer field in North Bergen, and he'd let us blow smoke into his afro and see the smoke come out of the air. How cool was he? I remember that. I remember you telling me that. This was the crew.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So I knew all these motherfuckers. Scroll down to the, all right, this kid here, no, up, up. That kid there was David Black. We graduated together, and I knew him after the fact. And one night, he came into Joe and Mary's He's like, look, you got a car. You got to give me a ride. If you give me a ride, I'll give you a rock. All right, we gave him a ride.
Starting point is 00:30:29 He gets out of the car in West New York. About three minutes later, he comes running back, bleeding with his hair pulled. I go, what happened? He goes, I went and robbed my sister. I mean, he was serious. He had coke rocks for everybody, a chunk of his fucking hair. She caught him on the way out as he was pulling out of the window. And she just took, he was bleeding and everything.
Starting point is 00:30:47 His sister. He robbed his sister through the window. Oh, my God. It's terrible. Oh, my God. This is when cocaine was king. This is 83, dog, at 3 in the morning. You asked me for a ride.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I got to do what I got to do, you know. Think of how crazy that statement is. This is fucking crazy. Joey, I wish you could do your own stand by me. Like, ever. Oh, my God. That would be so great This is fucking crazy. Joey, I wish you could do your own stand by me. My fucking God. Joey, who is this? Why is his head so small? When I got this picture, I nearly... Which one? The Filipino kid? No, this guy
Starting point is 00:31:15 on the left. That kid's like a multi-gazillionaire now. His family owns a tow truck company in northern New Jersey in New York City. If you get towed, his family is the one that owns it. I swear to God. I believe you. This is fucking crazy shit here.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I believe you. It's fucking crazy, man. Since 1978? Somebody sent me this yesterday while I was eating dinner, and I almost had a fucking heart attack. That's incredible. Look what I found looking through yearbooks. And that's when I was an innocent...
Starting point is 00:31:46 No, I was smoking dope then. I was no innocent then. I was smoking dope. I was finger-banging people. You could still be innocent. You could still be innocent and finger-banging. It was just me
Starting point is 00:31:57 and my mom at the house. Yeah, yeah, I was okay. I was okay. I wasn't crazy then. I smoked my first reefer when I was 15. I ganked it from my dad and uh i had no idea how strong it was and we rolled a joint and me and my friend josh and this girl that i was dating we smoked this shit and we smoked way too much for 15 year olds whatever
Starting point is 00:32:20 we were and we wound up waking up in various parts of the house like blink like blink i've it's never happened to me before but like blink all of a sudden i'd be on the couch blink all of a sudden i'd be in front of the refrigerator like blink all the time in between the blinks missing wow just arriving places like waking up in a bedroom no short-term memory not just no short-term memory it's like my tape gets cut like the the the events between those two did not exist i get so high i had zero memory so i would what i would think it was was i got so high that i would say you know what i need to just get into the kitchen and maybe get something to eat and maybe it'll calm this down so my brain spools up that it's got to figure out to remember to get to the kitchen to eat because i'm that high
Starting point is 00:33:10 and then in between during the walking i forget everything so then boom all of a sudden i wake up and i'm in front of the refrigerator going what the fuck and she was doing it too my girlfriend at the time and my friend was doing it my friend josh was doing it, too. We were all fucking. It scared me off of weed for a long time. Scared me off of weed for a long time. I didn't smoke weed again for several years after that. The first time you get high, you really don't get that zonked. It's the second or third time. And then you're outside.
Starting point is 00:33:39 You really start to understand. You end up in a bowling alley buying a chocolate milk. That's why I went and ate. We had French fries and chocolate milk. Have you ever had that happen where you felt like you woke up in places? Yeah, the first two or three years, I just smoked, you know, like, Duncan, what are you doing Friday night? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:58 My mom's leaving. Perfect. I'm going to call Joe. We're going to come over with some weed. I don't know, bro. My brother found that last time. He's going to rat me out. All right, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:34:04 We'll smoke in your yard, and we'll go and listen to Pink Floyd. I mean, that's not even, the war wasn't even out yet. We listened to the Beatles, Sgt. Pepper. Like, that's it. Like, we'd get together and roll a joint. In those days, I used to have a glass. You went to East West, this head shop, and there was a tube. And it was like a flute with this open, but it had a hole.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And you put the joint in there, and you put your finger at the end open but it had a hole and you put the joint in there and you put your finger at the end, Joe light it, and you'd light the joint and I'd suck it in and I'd hold it back and it was like, that's it, that was your carburetor. When you smoked one of those, you got zonked. That was it. And then we'd sit around and we'd all have money, you know, like what do you want to do? How much you got a dollar a quarter?
Starting point is 00:34:41 What do you got, three dollars? I got four, let's go to Nick's. And you walk to the pizza place. Remember? You just talk stupidity. And you look at each other. Do I look high? No.
Starting point is 00:34:51 You think Nick will say I'm high? No, he's on the arm high. Come on, do I look high? No, no. But Vizine, it was a fucking, it was tremendous. Then you had to get in the house and walk past your mother. Yes. And that was the night your mother decided to make cookies.
Starting point is 00:35:03 So now you had to look and talk to her or whatever. That's why you smoke pot, dog. Because it brought something different to your life at 13. It made you feel fucking alive. How cool was it? Like, I always want to do, right now, forget about anything. I would love to get 60 people
Starting point is 00:35:19 and chairs and couches and just fucking come out on stage and give everybody a joint and a table in the middle with joints and just do time to all those joints they got. Well, you know, there's a couple places you can do that in Toronto. Yeah, that's it. That's it. They're going to start having those in Denver, guaranteed. Yeah, any day.
Starting point is 00:35:35 The only problem is it's against health code to be smoking in a public place. We just want to crack jokes, dog, and bring it back to when you were 14 and you all sat around and listened to Is It Something I Said? Or that one album with the White Up. You know, we had great albums when I was growing up, Bicentennial Nigger. All those albums were brilliant. And you'd sit around with six of your buddies
Starting point is 00:35:55 and you'd listen to George Carlin or Red Fox. Come on. I used to sit around. That's what taught us. That's what hooked us. That was it. Just that feeling of, listen to what this motherfucker's saying. Listen to sit around. That's what taught us. That's what hooked us. That was it. Just that feeling of listen to what this motherfucker's saying. Listen to his language. We don't know anybody who talks like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Even George Carlin, he was so fucking hip. I remember still listening to Lenny Bruce and being like eight and turning it off, like fucking hiding and going, that's it. What was the first stand-up you got exposed to? Richard Pryor, the nigga's crazy. What was the first stand-up you got exposed to? Richard Pryor, the nigga's crazy. Wino meets Dracula, push me over the fucking top.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Drooling, crying. Like, mommy, I gotta tell you this joke. And then putting it on and going back and telling me, I don't admit the curses. Yeah, I don't admit the curses. Wow. And then you learned. You know, at all that age, I wasn't into fucking the black dude that everybody's supposed to like. Bill Cosby?
Starting point is 00:36:47 No. I was a George Carlin, Richard Pryor. Oh, man. For me. Later it was Bill Cosby. Cosby, for me, was the first. That was my first. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:57 My parents had an album, and it was Noah having a conversation with God. You ever hear that? Noah in the Ark, Noah having a conversation with God. You ever hear that? Noah in the Ark. Noah having a conversation with God. Yeah, I vaguely remember it. It's fucking great, man. I mean, it's great. He's a totally different style than any of us.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't think he's right in when he gets mad at people for using a certain language. Yeah. There was a, Juana Sykes interviewed him once, and he, like, criticized her language, like, how she, you know, phrased the question to him. I'm like, oh, come on, man. But as a comedian, like, the dude's top notch.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He's extremely conservative. He's a very conservative person. He's very conservative. Well, you know what he is? He's a super successful man that had to be incredibly driven to get to where he was. And he's not tolerating any mediocrity or what he perceives to be mediocrity in any form, whether it's language or behavior or the use of swear words. Fun guy.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah, it's unfortunate. My first experience with stand-up was I I can't remember, I was very young. My parents had a record player. I put Bill Cosby on and would play it. And when you're a kid, you don't have an immune system for comedy because you've never heard it before. So the first time you hear it, it knocks you on your ass because it's so funny. You can't stop laughing. You don't have the defense mechanisms.
Starting point is 00:38:25 It's a brand new thing. You're hearing a whole new rhythm, a whole new way of storytelling that is always the funniest thing you've ever heard. I can remember laying there and not being able to breathe, just clutching my stomach because it was so funny. His joke that I remember from this album was the one about getting drunk just it was just this whole story about throwing up and getting drunk and getting yeah yeah yeah yeah well he had that great bit about the the sun at the the football game that the dad works out the sun does all this thing with the sun and then finally you know the cameras
Starting point is 00:39:02 turn on them and he's like hi mom, Mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had one that, the one that I got hooked on. Was the one Mencia ganked. That's the one that really fucked Mencia up. That one really fucked him up. Which one was it? The Cosby one. Because that's sacred ground.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I mean, as far as stand-up comedians, in my opinion, there's five, six sacred comedians. And Cosby's one of the sacred ones. Sure. No doubt about it. He's an all-time genius. You know, you can't talk shit about him. But what an odd decision to steal a Bill Cosby joke. He fucked up.
Starting point is 00:39:38 You know, we've said a lot of things about that guy over the years, Mencia. I honestly hope he's got his shit together. I wish him well. We don't have to play that dude. The Buck Buck joke with the blue thing is one really flip comedy for me. He does a bit about playing Buck Buck and he sits on a stool. And he doesn't move. And anybody who ever played Buck Buck knows it's a moving game.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Right. He sold me in my mind, and that's when I learned the other phase of comedy. By that time, I was maybe 16 or 17. But guess who I was into at that point? Who? David Letterman. Letterman?
Starting point is 00:40:17 When Letterman first came on. That's so weird. When Letterman, fucking tell me about it. When Letterman first hit TV, I was a senior in high school, and the first time I watched Letterman, fucking tell me about it. When Letterman first hit TV, I was a senior in high school. And the first time I watched Letterman, I was gone. Really? Like that style of something was there. Being a cool guy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Something. And then I watched him from 18 to like 23, you know, whenever I was home at 11, when I wasn't coked up. Or in jail. Whatever stupidity I was doing and not in jail. And then I didn't watch him again. But I knew that style when he would come up and do his monologue in the beginning. I dug him. Like, I fucking just was sold.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And I found out he was at the comedy store. And Pryor was at the comedy store. And I started putting all the pieces together. Wow. And already I had heard the guy from Walkin' Mindy was a joke thief. He's a fucking joke thief yeah we heard about that you follow me right so I heard that already
Starting point is 00:41:10 and then again way before I was gonna be a fucking comic not even thought I went to catch that dude we've said this already out here
Starting point is 00:41:18 went to see the dude from Boston that's very witty Steven Steven Wright right yeah he went my friend won tickets to the
Starting point is 00:41:26 radio in Boulder at the big thing on South Boulder we went he was brilliant his material was brilliant I was blown away wow he didn't fucking curse really towards the end that's a different style yeah you know and all of a sudden I went to see him a year later and did the same material and I was dis and I said to myself if I ever a comic, I wouldn't do the same fucking material. I think he has a real problem with that act. It's such a narrow window that he can write material in. The things he can write about. Everything has to be absurd.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Everything has to be a little flip on things. Yeah, I love comics like that. Like him and Mitch. like they're they're amazing but i think it must feel a little claustrophobic to get stuck in that form like stephen reich i guess he can't just come out and start doing a long story because people be like what the fuck what if he did it with like a lot of energy yeah he's like and i was like lady what the fuck you talking everybody's like whoa whoa whoa where's that mellow guy yeah yeah that's so i think that sucks kind of to get stuck or to get pigeonholed in that one form i once worked at a fire hydrant factory
Starting point is 00:42:34 couldn't park anywhere near the place yes That's a classic Stephen Wright. That's that style. In a lot of ways, very Hedbergian. Hedberg style is kind of like that, too. Like real odd. It's fucking so good. I love all that shit. My favorite Hedberg one is, well, it's one of my favorites. He goes, somebody asked me if I wanted a frozen banana.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I said, no, but I want a regular banana later. So, yes. You said no, but I want a regular banana later. So yes. You're like, what? Imagine if somebody wrote that down for you if you're hiring a guy to write jokes. Listen, fella, I'm going to give you $200 an hour. Write me some snippy material. I really need to kill him at the club
Starting point is 00:43:20 tonight. And he reads that. Guy asked me if I want a frozen banana what the am i supposed to do with this guy asked me if i want a frozen banana i say no but i want a regular banana later so yes what the are you what the am i paying you to write jesus christ you piece of but meanwhile it's brilliant it comes out of headbroke the one about double tree how did they name that what do you want to call the place two trees double tree meeting adjourned his stuff was and his stuff never connected like what we do is like we'll have a subject
Starting point is 00:44:01 it's so much easier the way we do comedy, because you have a subject, and your subject, like the Liberace bit that you're doing now, he'll start on that Liberace movie, and he can talk about that fucking movie for 15 minutes. It's a whole series of hilarious things that exist inside of this one subject. But if you're a Mitch Hedberg guy, it's like essentially you're talking about one thing, and then you're talking about Oreo cookies, and then you're talking about heroin, whatever. And all the bullets you've got to have in your gun, man. You've got to have so many jokes for an hour set if each of your jokes is eight seconds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And they're all non-connected. Yeah. But meanwhile, Hedberg would just pump it out, man. He pumped out a lot of shit he constantly was writing that guy was like one of the most prolific guys you know like you always heard about him writing a lot of material yeah I heard somebody say they would write with him and they would go meet him to write and they would have like one maybe one shitty half thought-out joke written down and he would have like 20 just hilarious jokes he just he's one of those comics kid it just pours out of him is that you breathing in the mic Jesus Christ I'm
Starting point is 00:45:20 listening my ears Darth Vader in the background. Yeah. He had that style down. He figured out his perfect style. And that's a great example of why you can never really teach comedy. You know, I thought about doing, remember we talked about doing this at the store, like doing something in the belly room. Well, I was going to call it like a comics workshop. And the idea was like you really can't,
Starting point is 00:45:43 like anyone who's like a real legitimate comic could go and do it for free. You can't pay for that. You can't charge people for comedy classes. It just seems too fucking weird. It just seems too strange. It's like the entire opposite of the feeling of camaraderie that we're supposed to be giving each other. We're not supposed to be taking money from each other like that. We don't feed off of each other. What we should be doing is promoting the
Starting point is 00:46:07 art of stand-up. You know, if somebody wants to take a course and they're not a comedian and they just want to find out what it's like and sit in, then I could see maybe charging them. But someone who's actually a comedian, trying to be a comedian, there's that. So the idea of teaching a class kind of goes against the whole way of, you know, the whole way of camaraderie that we all enjoy. But it's also that you can't teach people how to do comedy. You can only give them advice as to maybe how you would do it or maybe if they shortened things up or had less words. Well, it's a little bit like what you're saying. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm sorry to cut you off. No, please do. I'm rambling. words well it's it's a little bit like what you're it's funny i'm sorry to cut you off it's funny because what you're saying reminds me a lot of uh what people say about like buddhism or uh uh spirituality is that they they they say you know you can't read this this isn't something like you can read all you want but it's not going to teach you. It's the practice of the thing itself that teaches you. So like when I went down to hang out with this Ram Dass retreat and there was this Zen Roshi there, this woman who's been practicing Zen for like, I don't know, her whole life basically. And she said that the teacher does not give the student enlightenment, but sets the conditions, creates a good condition for realization. So in the same way, I think you could have a comedy class,
Starting point is 00:47:34 but the comedy class isn't something where you tell someone, here's how you hold the mic, and here's the way you write a joke, and here's how you get booked at clubs. It's more like, here's an environment that is conducive to coming up with ideas and jokes, some kind of free form, chaotic place where people would just get together and, and I guess,
Starting point is 00:47:52 you know, get to be around people like you or like, you know, Cosby or big comics, because somehow just being around a very funny person for a little bit of time can teach you so much, but the actual mechanics of the thing, the technical aspects of it, that's, I think, where comedy classes are at right now.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I'm going to tell you this sincerely from my heart, as you were saying it, and Joe's going to agree with me because we're both on the same page. I would have loved if somebody would have taken my hand in the beginning and walked me through a lot of things. And there's a lot of things that I could take a new comic that we, all three of us, all four of us, everybody in the room could take a new comic and walk them around for a couple of weeks with them, three, four weeks and explain this. After that, it's like anything else, man.
Starting point is 00:48:38 You got to figure it out on your own. I got to, because that's part of the journey. Yep. That's part of your happiness. That's going to, what's going to make you happy later. Well, not only that, you two guys are a perfect example of it. You two are two of my best friends,
Starting point is 00:48:49 and you're also two of my favorite comedians. Thank you. And you're both completely fucking different. And I love watching both of you perform equally. You're both totally different. Totally different, totally different styles, but yet both awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:04 You know why? Because you're really you, and you're really you. Right. I mean, it yet both awesome. You know why? Because you're really you, and you're really you. It's that simple. You're not playing. We all know the poor people that are stuck putting together an act, and they're kind of pretending to be someone they're not. We know those folks, and it's a terrible rut to be in, artistically, as a person, whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:23 You guys aren't in that spot so because of that you're allowed to figure out and i don't know if that's ever going to be you you almost have to struggle uniquely and individually to get to to become a duncan trussell it's almost like if you if you get advice like they're never going to figure out that this is possible that you could be you like if you met with someone when you were 20 years old and you're like, Duncan, what would you like to do someday? I would like to smoke pot, play video games. I would like to write about my penis.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I would like to go on stage and make people laugh. And that's really it. They'd be like, well, okay. Kill yourself. That's cute. But let's think realistically, Duncan. What about your real future? Instead of saying, oh, so many people have done that before.
Starting point is 00:50:06 No one is ever going to be able to figure out how to make a Duncan Trussell except Duncan Trussell. Well, I think some people, I think comedians, there are tendencies in comedians. There are similarities in comedians, right? Wouldn't you say there's things in comics, not material-wise, but there are aspects of comedians that all seem to be the same. One is they tend to be very anti-authoritarian. So when you tell them what to do, when you tell them this is what you have to do, they inevitably want to reject that, overcome it, disrupt it, make fun of it. And I think that tendency starts when you're really young.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And if that tendency is in you, you're going to have a hard fucking time anyway getting a regular job because it's such an affront. Like I can remember listening in college. There was a career class we had to go to. And I can remember sitting there and listening to the guy talk about having to wear suits and talking about the way you talk to your boss and talking about the way to be polite in the workplace. And I don't know, I said something. You know what happens when you listen to that guy? You wind up at a restaurant with your date and some asshole actor starts telling your date that she's an old soul and you just take it without bitch slapping that dude. Yes, exactly. They turn you. You're right. The essence of the thing is just lay on your belly and submit to the master.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Just the very same thing that like when you see a mother dog. Like our dog had puppies. And I remember watching the mother dog play with the puppies. And part of the thing it seemed like she was teaching them was to like show their belly. To like turn over on their belly. That's the essence of the fucking thing. It's like obedience, subservience, submission. Well, it's the only way you're ever going to get by in life with a regular job.
Starting point is 00:51:50 The only way to get by in life, if you want to move your way up the corporate ladder, you have to follow the rules. You can't tell dirty jokes at work. You can't try to get laid. You can't try to play pranks on people. There's no room for creativity. You're there from 9 to 5. You punch in, you punch out.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I think that's not all places, though, man. Oh, no. It's certainly not. Like Google. I saw pictures of somebody working in Google, and they were laying in a box of colored balls on their laptop. That's amazing. I don't think it's all places. It's an old school model.
Starting point is 00:52:20 It's an old school model, which is that it's based on feudalism. It's based on the king. Show obedience to the king. Show obedience to the king. Show obedience to your boss or your teacher. Yeah, Google is the perfect example of how to do a corporation. I mean, we joke around about them being Skynet. But the reality of Google is they've managed in a short period of time to keep a lot of fucking employees happy. They have a huge business.
Starting point is 00:52:43 They own everything. They've got maps. They've got fucking music. They own everything. They've got maps. They've got fucking music. They've got their own operating system for phones. They've developed their own browser. I mean, Jesus fucking Christ. Has anybody ever kicked ass on the internet the way Google has? And yet, they're really cool with their employees.
Starting point is 00:53:00 If you go there, their employees get fucking foosball tables and shit and really good food. They have a real comfortable working environment. I have a friend who works there. There's a dude that works there who's decided at work he wants to be a girl. So he's a guy. He's married. He's got kids.
Starting point is 00:53:15 But at work, he puts on women's clothes and they change the title, his title at work, to what his girl name is. What the fuck? And they're like, okay. They're so open-minded. They're not like, Bob, is there something going on, man? Like, you know, all of a sudden you're wearing a dress. Instead of any of that, there's none of that. They're like, okay, well, Helen, pleasure to meet you, Helen.
Starting point is 00:53:38 If I met you before, I have met you before, but I met you as Bob. Okay. So now, well, pleasure to meet you as Helen. So let's take it from here on where Helen except dinner parties when they go out at night he brings his wife then he dresses like a man yeah I give he has functions or anything then he's a man and he's married he has a wife and they're so open-minded they're like okay as long as you don't know not putting you on at all wait this is your friend or this is no
Starting point is 00:54:00 no no no no my friend is my friend my friend works in the same environment as this person okay that's all cool that's all cool till you slip and fall in the bathroom trying to sue google and they're like sue then you wear a dress and fucking work you want to sue me you want to wear a dress cocksucker you better get your shit together pack your pencil that's what happens when your heels don't fit. You imagine, what the fuck? You wear a fucking dress to work. Somebody's going to say something eventually, I mean.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Well, the shoes alone would be reason to not be a woman. If I was a woman, even if I was a really sexy, heterosexual woman, I think I would dress like a man. I think this is the most comfortable way to move around. Yeah. No converse, all stars, pair of jeans,
Starting point is 00:54:49 nice, comfortable shirts. Yeah. Why are you wearing those shoes with those crazy shoes you wear and you can't walk in? Yeah. The, I,
Starting point is 00:54:56 you know, one thing that is probably certain, but I guess I'll find out in a second is that those fucking shoes were not invented by a woman, right? Like whoever invented high heels wasn't a woman. No person was like, you know what, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:55:09 put myself in uncomfortable stilts that warp my feet. I'm going to put myself in the most uncomfortable shoe wear. I can't drink. Yeah, probably as a chick. Probably wasn't. No, a lot of people like foot bindings. There's a whole history of like I meant to say as a chick. Probably wasn't. No, a lot of people like foot bindings. There's a whole history of like...
Starting point is 00:55:26 I meant to say isn't a chick. I meant to say... Well, Jimmy Choo is a woman. Did you know that? Who? Jimmy Choo. That's like a big one with the gals. They love the Jimmy Choo shoes.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Jimmy Choo is actually a woman. A woman created that. Yeah, but if you look at the history of them... All right, let's find out. Do you think there'd be a patent on that? This is why I hate Google. As a stoner, any of your stupid ideas can instantly be shot down. My friend Ada, wearing high heels the other day, just tore her knee wide open because of those stupid high heel shoes.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah, they're fucking dangerous, man. It's like, especially when you're walking around the street and there's cracks in the sidewalk and weird shit and divots You can't walk in those things bitch you can't work in those things. Okay, where does it say invention history? History you've haunted me with those feet shoot Joe the footy things. I see him like every day now They're great If you wore them you would wear what you're so funny to talk shit because you're wearing slippers right now. You're wearing slippers like you just stepped out of some Russian bathhouse where they give you one of those massages where they beat you with the sticks
Starting point is 00:56:34 like Fedor used to do. They banya and they fucking slap you with that thing. These shoes are comfy. I bet they are comfy, but that's what it looks like. You're shuffling out in the middle of the winter in some Soviet Union gear headed to the banya to get slapped, massaged naked. They are comfy, but that's what it looks like. You're shuffling out in the middle of the winter in some Soviet Union gear, headed to the banya to get slapped, massaged naked. Or an Alzheimer's patient who's slipped out the back doors, lost in a city.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yeah. All right. The first instance of the wear of high heels involved 1533 marriage between Catherine de Myrtille and the Duke of Orleans. She wore heels made in Florence for her wedding, and as a result, Italian high heels became the norm for the ladies in the Duke's court in France. Unfortunately, this reference may be
Starting point is 00:57:16 apocryphal, as the development of heels did not begin to come about until the late 1580s based on an iconographic evidence. So it was somewhere around the 1580s. A lot of people say, I heard it's because everything used to be covered in shit and a lady didn't want to get her feet in shit puddles
Starting point is 00:57:41 and so you would try to use the high heels to push the feet out of the shit. It doesn't make sense because the toes down, the toes still getting kicked in shit puddles and so you would try to use the high heels to like push the feet out of the shit doesn't make sense because the toes down toes still getting caked in shit better the toes and the entire foot really if i have to choose between how much of anything i want covered in shit i'm gonna pick i'll go with my heels i'd rather have shit on my heel than in between my little cute little toes why would you want to get your piggies all dirty? My piggies wallowing around in shit. So what would that look like? Reverse high heels. That'd be really weird.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I could see if you had some Gene Simmons-style kiss boots. You know? Call Dr. Love. They call me Dr. Love. With teeth walking through the shit. Yeah, that was the cause of a lot of disease back in the day. It was the poor sewer systems and the rotting bodies and all sorts of other things they had to deal with when people died. Just a river of shit, man.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah. And people would also, like, especially during times of war, like, their rivers would get clogged up with bodies. You know? And the bodies would rot. And then if you drank river water with rotting bodies in it you'd get sick as fuck and possibly die this is why when people say oh look these shootings are happening today it's like you used to watch dead blown up bodies roll by your home you used to when you walked outside you would walk up to your ankles and plague diarrhea yeah it
Starting point is 00:59:03 sucks that people are getting shot right now, but it's nothing like what it used to be. It's definitely nothing like what it used to be, but the numbers are so high that it seems like it's never-ending. It's a torrent. Because we're really not supposed to be paying attention to 7 billion people at the same time. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Or are we? Or are we? Or is this going to be how we fix it? Is this going to be where people don't get ignored anymore? Where you really have to take and pay attention to the assets of every single human being? Or are we? Or is this going to be how we fix it? Is this going to be where people don't get ignored anymore? Where you really have to take and pay attention to the assets of every single human being? Assets meaning you as a person, an asset to civilization. That all of them have to be accounted for. And if they're not, if they feel disenfranchised, that's when you're going to have problems. When they feel left out and they feel avoided, you're going to have fucking problems.
Starting point is 00:59:43 People don't get the love that they need from the jump. On top of all the real serious mental illnesses that can plague people that just happen. I knew a dude who went crazy. You remember the dude, the Todd? Do you remember the Todd? Do you remember the Todd? Yes. I actually met him once.
Starting point is 00:59:59 The Todd is responsible for me getting into the store. Wow. Because when I was doing it. Yes. Yes. Remember him? Yes. Friends when I was doing it. Yes, yes. Remember him? Yes. Friends of Pauly? Great guy, man.
Starting point is 01:00:08 He was a comic, and he was on MTV back in the day, and he had been in. And I went up, and I did a spot, and Mitzi, she gave me non-paid regular status. This means I could go on after the show was over. So I would go there every night, wait till like one o'clock in the morning and get on. And you know, it was all right. It was better than nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:29 And I was happy to have that. But then I got a second chance to audition for her a couple months after that. And the Todd sat next to her on purpose and just laughed and laughed. And he kept like slapping the table
Starting point is 01:00:39 and saying that I was funny. Because like sometimes Mitzi needs to hear from other people too. Yeah. She's like, he's brilliant. I mean, I was half the same material I did three months before.
Starting point is 01:00:48 But I was better then, I'm sure. I'd gotten more comfortable with being at the store. And I'm sure I was nervous the first time. Also, I think she also had her ear to the ground. And if you were coming in there every night, she knew it. Like, she knew it. And she knew that was part of a sign that somebody had potential. I think it was more than just that instantaneous watching thing.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I think it's a combination of like— Sort of, but Todd actually set me hip that that's been used before, and he told me that that's the way I should get my friends in too. So that's what I started doing. When McGuire did it, I sat right next to Mincy and laughed hard at McGuire. Anybody who ever was performing for her, I would make sure I sat right next to her and laughed. Man, was that not the weirdest fucking thing, sitting
Starting point is 01:01:30 next to Mitzi and then watching the comics come up and literally bow to her. Comics would come up old school cult leader guru style, bow down, touch her, try to touch her, and she would do the Mitzi waveoid. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 01:01:47 This can I'm out of here. Okay. Okay, honey. I'm watching a show Are you talking about Todd rendering rendering? No, who's that? He's a musician Why are we talking about him? What are you talking about? Oh, yeah, it's from MTV back in the table. Oh, no, no, no, no, no You want me say about Todd Rundgren? He was married to the chick. The Todd. What's the Todd? What's Tyler's?
Starting point is 01:02:12 What's the Tyler? Steven Tyler? His daughter. Oh, Liv Tyler? Liv Tyler's mother was living with that dude. Okay. And the mother took her to see Aerosmith. And little Tyler turned around and told the mother, that's my father.
Starting point is 01:02:30 For years they had raised her thinking it was Todd Rundgren. Whoa. But it was really Steven Tyler, but she wanted her to figure it out. True story, bro. Todd Rundgren's a bad motherfucker. He's got some badass jam. You know, you've heard his jam. What is his songs?
Starting point is 01:02:45 I don't know. We should play some. Yeah. You've heard his jam. What is his songs? I don't know. We should play some. Just look up the names. Fuck you can. The fuck you can, dude. If they can prove that you're making money off of it, you absolutely can't. I think there's something called fair use. How's it work?
Starting point is 01:03:00 I think that if you... Listen to Duncan. He ain't got no legal experience. Yes, he does. He went on LegalZoom.com and shit. This is some stoner bullshit. Yeah, don't listen to me. This is some stoner bullshit coming. I smell it. Fair use.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I smell hay, farts. I heard that if you're making a commentary over a thing, there's some kind of area where it is okay to reprint stuff, but it's not in... Really? And I think you can do like... There's seconds. You can do like 10 seconds or something.
Starting point is 01:03:28 It's all worked out. That's interesting. I wish we could release the Ice House Chronicles. We were talking about what I feel is the greatest guitar solo in the history of music. Freebird. I don't think anything can fuck with Freebird. And we were playing Freebird
Starting point is 01:03:43 and we were just getting into the song about how crazy it was that there's these dirty, stinky, long-haired dudes from Florida who were making this insane music, and all their songs were about getting away from girls. Right. All their songs. Like, a huge percentage of their songs were like, I gotta be free,
Starting point is 01:04:01 they call me the breeze, I'm out the door, bitch, you take care. They call me the breeze. All'm out the door, bitch. You take care. They call me the breeze. All their fucking songs are about getting away. Give me two steps. I mean, everything is like, I got to get the fuck out of this town. This shit got crazy. What's your name?
Starting point is 01:04:13 I'll be back next year. It's so funny that we're writing songs about this ancient evolutionary thing encoded in our genetics, which is that you want to put as much DNA into as many people as you can. it in our genetics which is that you want to put as much dna into as many people as you can yeah but now like people are actually like probably monkeys would seem sing the same song if they could any kind of primate would like is kind of stuck in that awful predicament of like having a genetic predisposition to spray jizz into as many holes as possible it's just in there and then also the need to like start a family and love someone and be monogamous that's one of like the great internal wars that is raging around the world right now is people trying to figure out how to deal with how to
Starting point is 01:04:58 reconcile those yeah how do you reconcile that shit yeah you have well that's also i think there's a certain amount of conflict that sort of ensures movement ensures a lot of activity and when you have two systems that are dueling it out one trying to dominate the other one trying to find a way through yeah whether it's through certain new words they introduce into the lexicon whether it's or the language whether it's through certain new words they introduce into the lexicon, or the language, whether it's the way they, you know, how they interact with each other. But what they're trying to do is everyone's trying to get a little bit ahead. Men are trying to get a little bit ahead of women. Women are trying to get a little bit ahead of men.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Women who feel suppressed will try to suppress others. Men who feel suppressed will try to do the same. And there's this crazy battle going on and i think it's almost like designed that way well it's a culture of dishonesty don't forget you're not allowed to say these things this is but it's also the culture that produces the most stuff creatively it's very strange yeah i think that's a very positive spin on it man but imagine like and but i should say right now that's not to discount any of the Europeans, Japanese, Asians, whatever, all the people all over the world that do creative shit. But there's no denying the fact that the United States is responsible for an insane amount of influential pop culture.
Starting point is 01:06:17 From the 1950s to the present, insane amounts. Of course the Europeans, of course the Beatles and the Stones, of course the Europeans, of course, the Beatles and the Stones, and of course, The Who, of course. There's no denying that there was a million of them from the UK as well. But when you count in stand-up comedy, when you count in music, all different kinds of music,
Starting point is 01:06:37 there's a lot of weird shit that came out of the United States. But do you think that's, you're saying that that's coming from sexual repression? There might be something to that. The need to conquer. The need to conquer the crazy genetics that led to these people being willing to get in ships and go halfway across the fucking world in a boat with fucking barrels of food that might be enough for everybody to eat and you might not get scurvy.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And you don't even have a fucking video that you can watch of what this place where you're going to try to live in looks like and you're going over there with your kids yeah those are savages those people were fucking crazy so you have that you have the legacy of these people and that's a part of it like this this this desire to just move forward they're willing to take the most risks in order to get to america in the first place i think the people coming you're right the people who came over here to, I guess, support your argument, many of the people who came over here were some of the most sexually repressed people on earth because they were hardcore Christians. This is like the Scarlet Letter.
Starting point is 01:07:38 This is like the body was something to be reviled. But I don't know if it's the repression that brings inspiration. I've never been in a... You know what? Maybe it is, though. Because I can think of times where you're super horny or lonely. That does produce...
Starting point is 01:08:00 Think about music, man. Where's music coming from? Where's the greatest music coming from? It's coming from fucking pain, man. Coming from fucking pain. The blues, man. Yeah. Where's music coming from? Where's the greatest music coming from? Break up. It's coming from fucking pain, man. Yeah, yeah. Coming from fucking pain. The blues, baby. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:08:10 There's some classic songs. You're my favorite mistake. You ever heard that Sheryl Crow song? Yes. God damn. Tremendous guitar. First of all, god damn that bitch could sing. She had this like soft, warm voice that's like a hug that you get through your ears.
Starting point is 01:08:25 It's like this loving voice that she has. And she's talking about this relationship that's just falling apart and that you're my favorite mistake. And you hear the emotions and the love through her voice. You've got to have pain to feel that, man. You've got to have pain to understand it. You've got to have pain to be able to relate to it. You've got to have experienced that. If you're some fresh-faced pup who's never
Starting point is 01:08:48 skid his knee and never had a family member die you don't know what the fuck the possibilities of the world are you can't appreciate the full spectrum because you don't know how low the lows can get your lows are pretty fucking high so when you do hit a low it makes you appreciate the days that are high. You know, I was just reading this. I'm reading this book called Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism. And it's by this Tibetan monk named Chogyam Trungpa who was just writing about this thing that you're saying. And he was saying disappointment.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Disappointment is one of the great states to be in to uh for for uh growth and for spirituality because disappointment means you're having a contact with truth it generally means you're having a contact with truth something has gone against your expectation which is how the universe works and then you find yourself in what he describes as like just the rocky terrain of truth. So now the relationship that you thought might work out, but you knew it wouldn't, it didn't. Or your mom has died.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Or you just put your dog to sleep. Now you're experiencing reality. You're experiencing the fact that you are in a maelstrom of atoms that will inevitably dissipate into nothingness. And that is a really intense fucking place to be in. But he doesn't say stay in a place of disappointment. He says that to move past that place into the next place, which is the incredible peace and joy
Starting point is 01:10:16 that comes from recognizing that you're part of this infinite, non-ending, changing, beautiful thing, you've got to recognize the first part, which is you're not going to last. Nothing's going to last. No one you know is going to survive this thing. Everything that you've ever said will be lost in time. We are all part of an infinite, shifting, changing thing. And what's causing you the problems is your desire to hold on to a form, to hold on to the idea of this is who I am.
Starting point is 01:10:47 This is how things are always going to be. This is going to last forever. That conception will always cause you pain. If you have a hangover, no, if you're having a terrible trip and you start thinking, I'm going to be freaking out forever, man, that will only make the trip worse. And if you're with someone you love and you think I'm going to be with this person forever, you're setting yourself up for some pretty severe disappointment because you won't. And so that disappointment that comes from realizing that, that's the place where you start growing. Hare Krishna. I just got disappointed.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Why are you freaking me out, Duncan Trussell? You're fucking with me, Duncan Trussell. You're fucking with my head, Duncan Trussell. It was all right. I walked in here. The sun was out. I don't think we all need it. There's an old expression that a wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
Starting point is 01:11:31 A fool learns from his own. Yes. I think that... I don't know if we need to have massive fucking chaos for people to understand and appreciate how cool life can be, but it helps. And the people that I know that are the most interesting all had fucked up lives. Yeah. All of us. interesting all had fucked up lives all of us all had fucked up lives none of nobody here in this room was on the brady
Starting point is 01:11:50 bunch well it gets you out there man it's like you know you always hear about people who it's who get cancer and then all of a sudden they're skydiving they're like running from the bulls they're doing anything they want they're fucking guys right they're telling the truth they're telling the truth and that's really that's really um i think that's like uh that's a that's a tragic thing in the sense that for people to actually start appreciating their existence they have to be uh dying you know dying is in within a year we're all dying but it's like suddenly when you wake up to the fact that you're dying that's when you actually are born and a lot of people don't get that yeah there's that wake-up call there's that that reality check when this is the real game yes this is the real shit man and you're really affecting people well it's so easy to get complacent it's so easy to just get lazy it's so
Starting point is 01:12:39 easy to just look at life and not appreciate the fuck out of this crazy ride we're on yeah especially us we're we're we're on the craziest ride of all, the ride of the professional comedian. You know? Right. We get drugs from the audience. We tell jokes and they give us drugs. Like the drug of laughter, that's a drug. We're all addicted to it.
Starting point is 01:12:57 The drug of killing. You know, man, I think it's a crazy ride, but I think the whole, if you have been blasted out of a pussy onto this planet, you're having a crazy ride. Everyone. You are. There's no way to not have a crazy ride. Joey Diaz just yawned and Brian put it on camera. Why are you talking to me about rise, Dr. Trussell?
Starting point is 01:13:18 I'm going to ride back home to my bed. You keep talking, cocksucker. Oh, fuck you. You two fucking hippies. You just started smoking weed a week ago. He would say that for the first like ten years. Joe Rogan you been smoking weed for a year. You been smoking weed for two years.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Joe Rogan you been smoking weed for three years. Shut the fuck up. Joe Rogan it's only been ten years. You don't even know about weed yet. Four more years then you understand the nuance, the subtleties. Thirty years. The fucking S's, theatois of the weed. The fucking batois.
Starting point is 01:13:46 50 years. Rogan, it's been fucking half your life. There's a whole half of your life you did without weed, so shut the fuck up. You did. Yeah, it's amazing what you did do without the weed. Like, now they shut it off for a while. God help. Let's see what would really happen.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Yeah, God praise Eddie Bravo. Praise Zeus and praise Odin for Eddie Bravo. Because if it wasn't for him, I would have never started smoking weed. I thought it was for losers. That'd be so weird to see the difference in your life. Yeah, I'd probably be way more aggro. It's a beneficial substance, man. And that's the real problem that I have with people that want to go on and on about people who are addicted to it.
Starting point is 01:14:19 I love Dr. Drew. I think he's a good person. I really do. But whenever I hear him talk about people being addicted to weed, I'm like, let's get all those people that are addicted to it in a room and find out what the fuck else is going on. Right. I guarantee you, you shouldn't blame weed.
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's not a physically addictive thing. I always feel something. I always feel that you have an addictive personality. We've discussed when you were on the Kong. What's his name? Quake. Quake. I remember when you were dropping to something.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I'm like, where's this coming from, Joe? And you were like, dog, you don't know. I used to leave you guys at the store. I'd go home. I played until 7 in the morning. And for people to recognize that, that's where the gift comes in. Because somebody would write that off. Like, that's just what he does every fucking night until 7 in the morning.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And it's weird how I've always believed, especially for me, it's always been the transfer of addictions. Okay, and at the end of the game, here's the simplest way to solution. If you're going to have a fucking night addiction, you might as well let it be the cheapest and the less harmful. And in my eyes, it's always been the weed. You know, it makes me better at night when I write. It calms me down in the daytime.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Whatever I make it believe that it does, it fucking does. It's not to make believe. I know you. I see what happens when you get high. First of all, I never see you sober. No, you see me sober. Three times. I documented them. I wrote them down.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I believe Joey Diaz is sober. Look at his pocket. He's got empty Chiba Chu wrappers. Chiba Chu. I might be incorrect. Sober is a relative term. But it's really weird. Sometimes I go, you know what?
Starting point is 01:15:56 Monday I'm not going to smoke nothing or eat nothing. And by Tuesday it's not like I'm jonesing. I just find myself with a joint at 5 in the afternoon when I'm writing something more. But I like it. Guys, out of all the addictions, whether it's going to strip clubs, drinking, gambling, I could have been hooked on a thousand fucking things. We ended up with Reefer. I enjoy it as a ritual.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I enjoy it as a ritual before I write. I enjoy it as a ritual before we do podcasts. I like it as a ritual before we do podcasts. I like it as a ritual. It signifies that we're going to shut off our phones and get into this space. Whether it's a space of doing stand-up or the space of writing or the space of doing a podcast. I like it in that way.
Starting point is 01:16:36 But I also like the effects. The effects are undeniable, man, for me. That introspective aspect of it that you talked about earlier is so important. Very important. I've been talking about it on stage, the term paranoia. You know, the people are like, I don't like weed. It makes me paranoid.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I'm like, you really should be paranoid. If you're paying attention, if you really want to just open yourself up to all the possibilities, it's insanity out there. Everywhere you go, you're a bag of blood, a fleshy bag that's holding a couple of gallons of blood. And if any of it spills out, you're fucking doomed. And you're running around in metal boxes. Everybody's flying by going 60 plus miles an hour. They don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Starting point is 01:17:16 They're running over motorcycles. You see that shit in New York? You see that shit? In front of his kid. Well, there was some craziness that went on. I don't know who started what or who did what, but I know that that dude ran over a guy on a bike. I'm going to bet it was the bikers. Could have been. However, how he handled it might have been incorrect also.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I don't know. What happened? The guy got, apparently someone slowed down in front of him and he bumped the bike. And then the guy stopped his bike. And the assumption is that the guy stopped his bike and the the the assumption is that the guy did it on purpose being a dick and he was trying to box in this guy in the truck and make him slow down we also don't know what their interaction was before this video started we don't know if this had been going on for a while like maybe the the biker panicked and cut someone off
Starting point is 01:18:00 the biker was an asian driver i'm not saying that Asian drivers are terrible, but a lot of Asian drivers are terrible. Are we in agreement on this? Yeah, but that doesn't mean a gang of bikers... It's not that all of them are terrible, but that is the goddamn stereotype. And I'm not saying that this guy's responsible. That's the goddamn stereotype.
Starting point is 01:18:19 It's like 99.9%. It's the goddamn stereotype. I've never heard that. And it's not 100% true, of course. Just like it's not 100% true that all Italians beat their wives. And me being Italian, I can say that. But the reality is that this guy in the video drives over. They're yelling at him.
Starting point is 01:18:38 And he drives over this bike and drives over a guy and broke his body. I mean, the guy, he drove over him with a fucking SUV. I don't know if that had to have happened. I don't know. I don't know what happened before that. I certainly think it's a terrible tragedy on both ends. That the guy in the car got beat up and that the guy got ran over. It's a terrible tragedy. But
Starting point is 01:18:57 besides my horrible racist Asian joke, which I apologize for profusely. I was just joking around and making a point. But I don't know what happened. I really don't know what happened. When I'm looking at it, I look at a guy who drove over somebody, and then I looked at another guy who went insane and beat the guy's window in
Starting point is 01:19:14 while he has a baby in the car. To me, it says tragedy on both sides. It's a tragedy. It's a tragedy of overreacting on both sides, for sure. A horrible tragedy. Yeah, it sucks. Horrible tragedy that the guy got pulled out of his sides, for sure. A horrible tragedy. Yeah, it sucks. Horrible tragedy that the guy got pulled out of his car and beat up.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Horrible tragedy that... Did the guy get pulled out of his car and get beat up? He got pulled out. He got beat up. He got cut up. Slashed his face. Yeah. Well, there was all this glass that broke, too, because the guy broke the window.
Starting point is 01:19:38 He's breaking the window with his helmet. Yeah. He's smashing the window with his helmet. The whole thing's crazy. They threw a spike strip out. Did they really? That's what I read. What's a spike strip? Popped his helmet. The whole thing's crazy. They threw a spike strip out. Did they really? That's what I read. What's a spike strip?
Starting point is 01:19:47 Popped his tires. Who threw it out? The bikers. They had a spike strip on them? That's what I read. Okay, you are not Googling this. You're not even trying to substantiate this. Google it.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Okay, I will pull it up. Okay, bikers threw down spike strip. Okay, here we go. You know, I'm watching this, and I'm thinking, you know, you, your wife, your kid. What the fuck? I know. Well, there also, there was tinted windows, so they might not be able to see that this guy had his wife and his kid in the car. It doesn't say that, Duncan.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I read it. And did it have license plates on their things? Biker bra. They popped his tires. That's why he couldn't keep going. No, apparently someone stabbed his tire. That was one of the... Oh, maybe that's what I read.
Starting point is 01:20:33 One of the... That's not real, Brian. You can't trick me. I know what a video game looks like. You fuck. It looks pretty goddamn good, though. Look how good that looks. Isn't that amazing?
Starting point is 01:20:40 Like, the textures of the road. It's so beautiful. Oh, show the time lapse. Have you seen that? The time lapse of Grand Theft Auto? I'm so fascinated. I'm never going to get into this game. I cannot do it because it's just too, it looks like it's too good.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Have you not played it at all? No, I know me, man. I don't fuck around. I know me. I'm crazy. What about this Oculus Rift thing and Quake? Like I said, I know me, bitch. Quake is supposed to be Oculus Rift friendly.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I feel like out of all the things I'm allowing myself, out of all the things that get me crazy addicted, I'm allowing myself to just fuck with pool. Because pool is, I think I get something out of it that I don't get out of video games. I get like a body calmness
Starting point is 01:21:19 because it's all about like meditating on the distance that the ball is going to go and calming yourself down and putting yourself into a very sensitive state where you're playing. I don't get that from video games. So when I looked at it objectively, I'm like, like Joey said, you've got addictions, you've got to pick which is the best one. And for me, the best one is pool.
Starting point is 01:21:37 This is a time lapse they made on it. Come to your own thing. Yeah. How nice is it to go to a, I mean, I don't even like nice pool halls. If I'm going to go to a pool hall, I want to see it for what it is, but I don't want stupidity. Like hard times. Yeah, I don't know. You ever go to hard times with me?
Starting point is 01:21:52 You ever been to hard times? No, no, no. Where have we gone? We went to the old Hollywood Billiards, which was awesome. Right. We went to the place in New York City. God, I miss that place. Me and Fabian 10 years ago, 20 years ago.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yeah, yeah. In Manhattan. Then we went somewhere else. That was Chelsea. We went to Chelsea Billiards. That was Chelsea Billiards after. Yeah, yeah. Chelsea Billiards after.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I think it had already changed names. Chelsea Billiards was the legendary place. Like, sometimes you'll see me wear this jacket. It's like a varsity jacket. It says Chelsea Billiards on the back. You've seen that. That, at all time, great pool halls for pool hustlers and action that's the greatest or one of the greatest next to hard times in california one of the greatest
Starting point is 01:22:30 in the history of the world that place was a 24-hour pool hall where half the people in there you go at three o'clock in the morning half the people in there were vagrants that could rob you i mean rob you playing pool they could get out homeless dudes who knew how to fucking get out they knew how to play safe. They knew how to fuck you up. They would get you on those tables, especially what they would call a gaff table. There's a table where one pocket rolls to the right and if you know that pocket rolls to the right,
Starting point is 01:22:53 you can put someone in a position where they don't think they can make the ball, but they can and you know it. Little shit things like you can scratch on shots where you don't think you can. If you know a table, especially what they call a gaff table, it's huge. Very important if you're a pool player. Home team advantage. They would just rob people.
Starting point is 01:23:09 They would rob people. But there was also really high-stakes gambling between high-level pros too. Really interesting stuff to watch, both the drunks getting robbed by the hustlers, and then the real big sharks come in, and they would match up and put the money on the light. And, you know, you're in the middle of fucking New York city, dude, it's four o'clock in the morning. Dudes are playing for $10,000. And when you're a kid and you're watching that, you know, it's a, it's some exciting shit. That was a part for me. It was like being a part of this really rare underground society that I knew was not going to last very long. Like I'm
Starting point is 01:23:43 like this crazy 24 hour pool hall life where people are players and they're gambling, they're bringing their own money, and they're matching up and barking at each other. You ain't got no heart. That's a crazy underground world. These guys were making a living paying their bills completely off the grid. No taxes. No taxes. Stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I'm staying at this fucking boarding house down the street. I'm in a house with ten other dudes. I got my pool cue. I put it under my blanket when I sleep. I get up in the morning and I go down to Chelsea. And you're like, whoa. These guys were living there. They were getting an education in this gangster life at this 24-hour pool hall.
Starting point is 01:24:18 I know several dudes who got arrested while I was playing there. One dude who was a three-card money champion. He was a bad motherfucker at three-card money champion, he was a bad motherfucker at three-card money. He's a slick Puerto Rican dude. He would go out and just have all these dumb white people from Nebraska that had never been to New York City before, and he would be doing this three-card money shit. And this is all before the internet. And they couldn't, you know, they would come on right up here, sir. You look like a winner. You look like you know how to play a game, my friend. Come on over here, dog. How much money you got on you, my friend?
Starting point is 01:24:43 My friend, where you from? You got a beautiful suit. That's a beautiful suit. Is that Armani? What is that, bro? Yo, that's beautiful. Hey, listen, man. This is a game called Three Car Armani. We just like to have a little fun here in New York City, especially people come in for the first time. No, they're showing it to you. It's real simple. It's real simple. Here it is. Here's the thing. Real simple.
Starting point is 01:24:59 And now they're giving it to you, Duncan. They're giving it to you. Guess it. I'll give you a couple free ones. Guess it. There it is. Bam. There you go. You would have just won some money. And all of a sudden, there's a partner next to him. So how do we do it? You see the partner getting closer than. Yeah, I got the black thing right here. He had a P.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And Duncan, he's showing it to you. And the next thing you know, Duncan, it all goes to hell. Well, there's the cups, and there's also three-card money. There's the cups where you're trying to find. Well, whatever. There's three-card money. All of a sudden, the 20 goes down, and the guy wins. And the next 20 goes down again, and the guy doubles his money.
Starting point is 01:25:29 And that's it. Now he gets the guy from Nebraska to come in and throw a 40, and he even wins. And the wife is like, do it again, do it again, because everybody wants to come to New York. Have you ever seen a guy try to walk away with one victory? Oh, shit. Yo, they will attack you. So what they do is they get that table going. This is a table, Duncan.
Starting point is 01:25:47 So right there, they have two guys sucked in and one of their own. So you'd be working with me. And you're 20. You'd be doubling up. You already won 120. But I know I got three people in the audience that I'm hypnotizing. And I'm letting them know they're going to win. They just come to New York.
Starting point is 01:26:01 You know what? I got $200 in my pocket. If I double it, that's $400. I mean, this is how you're thinking right there. This is a do or die situation. And all of a sudden, right there, when they got you, boom, the black, bam, they take up $1,200. The Puerto Rican yells to the police, and they take their money, and three tourists are like, what the fuck? And they're gone. Just happened. Hey! And the guy's got a carton, like the bottom of a carton for cans, and
Starting point is 01:26:23 he just throws it up in the air, and that's it. That's their residence. It got a carton, like the bottom of a carton for cans, and he just throws it up in the end. That's it. That's their residence. It's a carton. The three cops are gone, and the beans in their fucking mouth, and they're walking down the street, and there ain't no fucking cops. And they're all going in different directions. And that's it. And now they hook up again, and I will lay it at the same place,
Starting point is 01:26:36 and they do that same scam again. They would do that five times, make six grand. That's how good it was. I got caught one day with a buddy of mine. They took me for a 20. The guy was yelling at me. Next thing you know, the guys I was with laid out 20 a piece. Bam! 60 bucks. And next thing
Starting point is 01:26:52 you know, boom! The police. They blow a whistle. What's going on here? The cops, everybody runs. They got your money. Fucking tremendous, man. You know, when you made that turn on 42nd Street, it was when you were 13 or 12,
Starting point is 01:27:09 it was something that Ari says that when you walk around today, you walk past people, you know, and all of a sudden, like, under their breath, they'll go, weed. And, like, five feet, you look around, they look at you, and all of a sudden they come back up to you. It was completely different. When you cut that corner on 42nd Street, Duncan, you'd hear every drug in the world.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Weed, marijuana, THC, joints, loose joints, acid, ácido. Because that's acid in Spanish. Ácido. Fucking ácido. Marijuana, heroin, cocaína, perico. Fucking a different goddamn... If I was stupid rich, like Bill Gates rich, I would buy Chelsea Billiards and I would reinstate it.
Starting point is 01:27:53 I would bring it back. I'd make it 24 hours a day. I'd make it the last bastion of the pool house. Is it open? I don't know. It's like some faux pool hall now where they have red cloth and fucking shiny lights, and they play horrible music that makes you want to throw up.
Starting point is 01:28:08 If you go to a pool hall and not playing classic rock, turn around. Turn around and leave. Just if you walk in, if you don't hear some Leonard Skinner, some Aerosmith, if you don't hear Sweet Home Alabama, get out of there because they got red cloth, and you're playing on buckets, and no one's leveled These fucking tables It's a disaster It's not a real pool And the only dinner
Starting point is 01:28:28 You can get Is an old hamburger Or a fucking Bag of fries The place that I used to play at In White Plains, New Jersey Or White Plains, New York Got turned into a disco
Starting point is 01:28:37 It's basically a disco now It was executive billiards Executive billiards In White Plains Right down the street From Nicky's Pizza The greatest white pizza The earth has ever known. If you want to get off your gluten-free diet,
Starting point is 01:28:49 go to fucking White Plains, New York. Go to Nicky's Pizza and get the white pizza. It's got white cheese on it, ricotta cheese with garlic and olive oil. And it will knock your dick right into the cat litter box. It's un- That sounds bad. Un-fucking-believably good. That sounds bad. It's better than dick in-fucking-believably good. That sounds bad.
Starting point is 01:29:05 It's better than better than dick in the dirt. I was struggling for a metaphor. Dick in a cat litter box. That sounds bad. It's better than
Starting point is 01:29:11 your dick in a pile of cat shit and piss. Those crumbs sticking to the tip of your helmet. The uh the place was like a great place
Starting point is 01:29:20 back in the day in the 90s. That was the spot. Like pool hustlers would come in from all over the world. They would come like they would make stops in New York. If they were in the day in the 90s that was the spot like pool hustlers would come in from all over the world they would come like they would make stops in new york if they're in the new york area there was a few places they would play and one of them was they would always check in an executive and you know if you were like my buddy owned the place so he'd be on the phone you know
Starting point is 01:29:37 and they'd get a call you know in the in like the middle of the day you know he's polishing balls and shit and he'd get a call that Jake the snake is in town You know this is dude Jake the snake who played one pocket and you'd come down And you know they would call George the Greek this guy wants to play one pocket way this Motherfuckers got no heart and then everybody would meet up at the pool hall like 10 o'clock at night And you'd see the dude practicing knocking balls around the table like oh shit It's going down and they would put this big stack of money And there was this Guido gangster dude
Starting point is 01:30:05 who was always there who had a gun just in case somebody tried to rob a stake. It was a fucking crazy place to be a part of. Sounds cool. It was fucking, it was Runyon-esque. It was a movie. I mean, it was like a crazy movie about the Depression,
Starting point is 01:30:19 except there was no Depression. It was just going to diners and watching guys gamble their life away. And me being a visitor in the world. I was not really a player. I couldn't play that good. I played okay. Like for a regular person, I played amazing.
Starting point is 01:30:33 But for these guys, I would play and I would always lose. And I've never won like one or two tournaments ever. Most of the time I would lose. I'd have to get really lucky to win. So I got the chance to see these people who lived entirely off of this one crazy game That's all they did all they talked about Was the different conditions of the cloth and what kind of chalk are you using and what what fucking tippy you got? You got a sniper on this motherfucker. When'd you get this sniper?
Starting point is 01:30:57 Is that better and they would try everybody's trying to constantly figure out an edge because they're playing a game where their life would they eat or Know whether they go hungry whether they eat or no, whether they go hungry, whether they have money for a hotel room, it's all based on fractions of an inch, whether a ball rolls slightly to the left too far or bumps the other ball and gets in the perfect position. The fucking differences between those things are the tiniest fraction on the cue ball of where you hit it. And they're obsessed with it, obsessed with the movements, and just trying to live off those movements. That gives me an anxiety attack.
Starting point is 01:31:33 It's madness. But it's also beautiful. When you watch it done right, it's an art form. That's what people don't understand about the game. When people say, oh, you're fucking boring. You talk about pool. It's just so fucking boring. To me, it's not.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Trust me. When you it's one of those things. When you appreciate it, when you know how difficult it is to do, then it becomes an art form. Like StarCraft. It becomes like a ballet. Exactly. Exactly. When you talk about StarCraft, I go blank. Because I have no point of reference. I don't understand
Starting point is 01:32:01 the game. I've never tried to. I'm terrified of it. I see you. I see you fucking start... I'm terrified of it. I see you... I see you fucking start sweating when you talk about it. I see your face start sunken in like your body's trying to conserve water because you know you're not going to be... Your body... You say StarCraft and your body goes into like the hibernative state where it knows
Starting point is 01:32:17 it's not going to get nutrition for the next six hours. You really stay in for three days, don't you? What? You would stay in for three days. I quit. I didn't quit because of the addiction. I quit because they demoted me to Bronze League again. What? I'm not dealing with that shit anymore. I'm like number 75 in Bronze League. I'd made it up to the silver.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Listen, man, your ego reveals you, my brother. Why do you give a fuck if you're in Bronze League? Because it's you being Bronze League, Joe. It's an insult. I wouldn't even be in Bronze League. I'm getting beaten by toddlers. I would be in aluminum. I would be in scrap aluminum league.
Starting point is 01:32:46 It means I'm playing against fourth graders who are crushing me. That's all right. At least you're playing against somebody. No, it's a... Why are you an ageist? It's a young man's sport. You're an ageist, patriarchal asshole. Your male ageist privilege is showing.
Starting point is 01:33:03 You basically hate women. Put it in your blog. I don't care. You basically hate women. Put it in your blog. I don't care. You basically hate women. I'm going to have to blog about you, Duncan Trussell. You hate women, and you're an ageist. I love women. I hate Bronze League.
Starting point is 01:33:14 I don't say I love women. You know what I say? I love nice women. I don't say I love men either. There's a lot of men that are cunts. A lot of men suck. Remember when we were talking about Bigfoot? Somebody actually killed him.
Starting point is 01:33:24 They didn't just kill one Oh, oh, meaning the game. That's a spoiler. Don't spoil it, dude. That's a spoiler. Hey, don't spoil it. Duncan thinks it's important not to spoil it. I'm not looking at it. Show it to me offline. He's not looking. Oh, you son of a bitch. Brian doesn't even care. This is insubordination.
Starting point is 01:33:40 If this was any other company, if he was working for any other company besides the Death Quad affiliated company like the Freak Party. Right here, he gets them. I don't give a fuck, bro. I don't want to see him shoot Bigfoot. Bigfoot's probably a man. Oh, look.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Oh, he's sad. So sad. Shoot me, human. Yeah, that is sad. Let's put something happy to balance this out. Pull up the Godzilla trailer. Oh, dude, they have Oppenheimer quoting the Bhagavad Gita. It's brilliant. Find it.
Starting point is 01:34:07 You've got to find it. It's on Dailymotion. It's on my Twitter. If you go to my Twitter, it's one of the most recent posts. But it's the trailer for the new Godzilla. And oh, motherfucker, does this look good. I got a three-quarter staff just watching the first ten seconds of the trailer. I was just like, oh, they're doing it right.
Starting point is 01:34:24 They're doing it right. It's not out. Apparently, it's a concept, and they're building it right now. But it's a Warner Brothers, what did he say, a property? Right. Check this shit out, son. Are you giving full attention? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:43 He knew the world would not be the same. Few people cried. Most people were silent. Look at this shit. We're looking at smashed buildings. You can find it online, folks. You can't stop the internet. You can't take pee out of the ocean.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Tower 7. I don't know why they're trying to remove this for some reason. Like, it's on YouTube sites, it's pulled down. You know what that is? That's some ancient, dumbass thinking. That's some executives that don't get, show us this, motherfucker! Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Listen, if that doesn't get your dick hard, move to France. Alright? Just go. Get the fuck out of America. If that doesn't get your dick hard, quit. Meanwhile, Japanese invented Godzilla. By the way, this is a parody of a really racist, nationalistic American. Comes out in 2014.
Starting point is 01:36:07 That looks so fucking good. Well, just the attitude that they have in creating that clip. You know, you got Oppenheimer talking about the Bhagavad Gita. Oppenheimer, for folks who don't know, is the guy who was the most critical aspect. The Manhattan Project was a huge project, obviously. But the most critical aspect was Oppenheimer. And he's credited as being the guy who figured out how to make a fucking atomic bomb. Yeah, that fucking...
Starting point is 01:36:30 That is an incredible verse, man. I have become death, the destroyer of worlds. That is so badass. That's really cool. Yeah, that's gonna be intense. So, Bigfoot's dead, and there you go. There's a bunch of people who say they've found Bigfoot this week.
Starting point is 01:36:47 There's a new video of Bigfoot. And we won't even show it because I'm not going to fucking insult you. The shit is ridiculous. That's not it, dude. This is more. That ain't even Bigfoot. Bigfoot doesn't have titties like that. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Is this Grand Theft Auto? Oh, Bigfoot's got a mask. This is fucking a huge spoiler, dude. Why would you do that? Brian, that's so rude. I hope somebody actually just used the Grand Theft Auto engine to create that and it wasn't real. No. This is the sleeping Bigfoot.
Starting point is 01:37:13 And it's a female. How do they know it's a female? Well, they smell this pussy. They smell that pussy a mile away. Bigfoot. It smelled like a tuna that got hit with a musket. It's fucking lying out there in the middle of the woods. What do you think it sounds like?
Starting point is 01:37:24 It must be a female A male can't smell that fishy What is that? This is a piece of Baby Bigfoot Shit that they found Yeah, that's mountain lion shit It's got elk hair in it
Starting point is 01:37:35 Dumb cunts I'll tell you right now I've only been hunting for a year I can tell you what the fuck that is I might be wrong, by the way I'm very confident But don't mistake that for being accurate Yeah
Starting point is 01:37:44 This is ridiculous Well, these people are crazy as fuck Todd Disotel the way i'm very confident when i don't mistake that for being accurate yeah this is uh ridiculous well these people are crazy as fuck todd disotel who's a professor at uh nyu who we had on that that uh podcast if there's one thing that we answered on the uh joe rogan questions everything it's not whether or not bigfoot is real but it's whether or not the evidence that has been purported to be bigfoot dna has been acquired in the most non-contaminated way and that answer is clearly no this isn't there's not a direct chain of command between finding this and like documenting the fact these guys wore rubber gloves they had masks on they picked this up with tweezers When you find human DNA, it's amazing how easy it is for humans to get DNA on shit now. They can get DNA.
Starting point is 01:38:30 If you sneeze, if you breathe, if you touch something with your sweaty skin, you get human DNA on things. It's incredible how sensitive these pieces of equipment are. So when you get some fucking piece of shit that a hunter found in the woods, this is a squatch turd. Squatch came by shit on my elk carcass. You don't know what the fuck happened before that thing got to you. And when you start testing it, it's very irresponsible scientifically. So whether or not these people are telling the truth, I believe they are.
Starting point is 01:38:57 I believe they really believe that it's a Bigfoot turd. Whether or not, or hair, or whatever the fuck they claim they have, or many pieces of evidence they claim they have, the real problem is all of them have been extracted from the crime scenes unscientifically. So me, as executive producer, Duncan Trussell's co-host of Joe Rogan Questions Everything, we say, go fuck yourself. That shit ain't real, son. That's a fucking chick with a Sasquatch costume on.
Starting point is 01:39:22 You say that. What do you say? I don't think anyone thinks it's real, though. Even the news, when they showed it on the news, they were like, oh, here we go again. Oh, that's not true. I saw some dummies that were being interviewed that seemed like they really believed in it.
Starting point is 01:39:32 That's so cool. There was a few dummies that really acted like they believed in it. I don't know the answer, man. That's what I learned from the show, is I have no fucking idea. And any time I think I know something, it always turns out to be something wrong and generally if i let myself just be in the state of not knowing it things get a lot
Starting point is 01:39:52 more interesting anyway i don't know there's a bigfoot there could be a bigfoot anywhere there could be underground they could live in the earth like hornets in a hive and you know what's more likely than bigfoot is that little tiny person thing that oring pendek sure that's more likely than Bigfoot? Is that little tiny person thing. That Oring Pendek. Sure. That's more likely. They found these motherfuckers 14,000 years old, Joey. Three feet tall, hobbit dudes. They had spears.
Starting point is 01:40:13 They might have actually like... Where'd they find them? They found them on the island of Flores. They're called the Homo Floriensis or something like that. They were alive 14,000 years ago. That ain't shit. And they have legends about these little people who could fly. Or they rode birds or something.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Can you imagine? How about those giant fucking... They figured out how to fucking kidnap eagles. How about those giant wasps? Insane. Killing people in China. And by the way, this was like a week after we were talking about wasps on a podcast with Josh Barnett. Josh Barnett's obsessed with wasps.
Starting point is 01:40:49 How crazy gangster wasps are. And they could just they kill everything they kill tarantulas There's videos of wasps fucking up tarantulas because wasps can keep stinging if you ever been stung by a wasp they can kill you No, I haven't I have it is awful the ones in you're seeing these Chinese ones or Japanese ones. These are giant Oh, yeah, they're enormous wasps. They Their stingers are like hypodermic needles. Yeah. And they're just punching holes in Chinese people. Well, they're the size of a small mouse. Look at that. It's the size of a hand.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Fuck that. Look at the size of that guy's hand or girl's hand. Gal. Should we say gal? I don't want to offend anybody. You can say lass. Lass. Young maiden.
Starting point is 01:41:20 I think it's a dude. It looks like a dude. I hope whoever they are, they're not sensitive. I think it's a dude. I hope whoever they are, they're not sensitive. I'm so tired of people being so needy. Can you imagine getting swarmed by one of those things? Well, they've killed 42 people and injured 160 plus in China over the past few months.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Fuck. Well, they don't know what's going on, but they're fucking huge. I know what's going on. A portal's opened up to hell, and those things are climbing out of it the apocalypse is a slow moving event it's glacier like it's not like an asteroid the apocalypse there's no apocalypse listen cocksucker you want to smell my ass that's the apocalypse i'll pull my pants down i'll unleash that in and out double double in your face speaking of the fucking apocalypse, man, I got a fucking Oculus Rift waiting in my house right now. Don't panic.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Don't get sweaty. I got to get back. You're sweaty, man. Why are you sweaty? You're not going anywhere. You're hanging out until the end of this podcast. Where am I going? There's people that are listening to this that depend on you.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Don't be so selfish. Don't get caught up in the wave of selfishness that is addiction. I wasn't going to abandon. Oh, it's not addiction. it's going into an alternate universe that's not addiction i want to see skyrim in 3d on the stone wow oh my god fuck that oh my god those are so big. There's a photo of a guy or a gal with four of these giant hornets. We really do need to know if it's like a Shaquille O'Neal-sized hand or if it's like a... Baby's hand. Yeah, small.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Let's put all these hornets in our baby's hand. Like Little Esther's hands. Little Esther has some tiny little hands. Little Esther, that's a giant hornet. Riders on the storm. D.C. Trussell. D.C. Trussell, what happened? What did I miss?
Starting point is 01:43:10 You putting it in. Are you taking those babies and getting them killed by hornets in your game? You can't. There's no game like that. Game in your mind? Not yet. If you had one, though, if you had a baby that was alone in the crib, like the mom was on meth and the mom fell asleep in the game,
Starting point is 01:43:23 and it was right next to the baby, passed out, but a window opened up and a hornet figured out its way through. Would you allow all the hornets to come in and kill the baby just so you could see what it would be like? This is like... What is that movie with Harrison Ford? Total... Not Total Recall. Blade Runner. These are like questions...
Starting point is 01:43:39 These are the questions you ask an android to make him start malfunctioning. That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm trying to I'm doing. A turtle's laying on its back. Its legs are waving in the air. It can't move. I'm trying to figure out whether the... A tortoise. What's a tortoise?
Starting point is 01:43:53 It's a turtle. I'm trying to figure out whether the uncomfortable moments and the animosity that you face in your life has turned you irreversibly towards the dark side. I'm trying to figure out whether they can seduce you to the force. You are saying that if I was to let hornets attack a digitized baby, I would be evil? Well, that you would want to experience that. What about if you had the options between hornets and a slew of bikini pageant contest entrance blowing the kid. Let me tell you something, man.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Have you ever played Fallout 3? No. The game where you wander through the apocalypse in Fallout 3? Well, there's a mission in Fallout 3 where there's a little commune of orphans who are living in some kind of cave. One of the missions is, and in part of this world,
Starting point is 01:44:47 there's like a compound of slavers. So you can bring them people, you can sell people to slavery there. And one of the missions built into this game is you go into that fucking compound of kids, kidnap one, and bring it back to these slavers to do whatever the fuck they're going to do to the kid.
Starting point is 01:45:05 And they give you some weird special executioner's mask that gives you powers. And that's encoded into the fucking game. So that's what's weird about video games is there's this like people will do awful shit in video games. You would too.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Oh, fuck yeah I would. That's why I won't do it. No, I wouldn't do that. I probably would on if I had an option I would too. Oh, I would. Fuck yeah, I would. That's why I wouldn't do it. No, I wouldn't do that. In a video game. But I probably would on, you know, like, if I had an option, you know, if you could, like, pick who would want, you know, who you'd want. Like, if you could take, like, a public figure, you know, like, think of someone who really annoys you.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Some, don't even mention a name. Let's just take some horrible foreign dictator type character. Yes. Some Coney. whatever happened to coney Boy did there is there a fucking cause it went away any quicker than that coney 2012 thing it's all you got to do is whip your dick out and run around the street beating off and then It doesn't matter how many babies die in africa everybody's like it's this fucking this topic is over he went to oprah Did he?
Starting point is 01:46:01 this topic is over he went to Oprah did he? he went on Oprah didn't he? I don't know well the guy was in the middle of the fucking street beating off
Starting point is 01:46:08 in San Diego the guy who like started this organization and put the whole thing together see if you can find that video Brian it's caused by stress whatever it's caused by
Starting point is 01:46:17 I don't give a fuck there's a lot of kinds of stress in this world there's one type of stress it's called fighting off the gay DCT what did you think stress in this world. There's one type of stress. It's called fighting off the gay. DCT.
Starting point is 01:46:29 What did you think when this whole thing went down? This guy got arrested and he was beaten off in the middle of the street. That makes sense, right? Totally makes sense. No, I thought it was something even deeper than that, man.
Starting point is 01:46:38 I thought it was some kind of attack from the guy in mind on him because he was ripping people off. I don't know if he was for sure, but I was suspicious of him. And so I thought that it had reached this psychic magnitude
Starting point is 01:46:51 of negativity just swirled down on him and temporarily exposed him to the world. And this is somebody that maybe isn't reliable or somebody that you shouldn't be sending money to. I don't know exactly how they were using the money that they were getting, but I know a great many charities, legally, they only have to...
Starting point is 01:47:09 There he is. Look at him. You're totally right, by the way. I hate to interrupt you there. But you're totally right. This is him walking around naked. And the old man behind him. They're in San Diego. It's all, like, ex-military and shit down there. They're like, son of a bitch, I stormed the beaches of Iwo Jima, and you fucking cocksucker running around my neighborhood showing your dick to my wife,
Starting point is 01:47:29 I'll fucking kill you. But this is something... You're right, though. What is that? It's about... It's about this? Yeah, it's South Park's song about this.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Oh, South Park had a song about it? It's called Whacking It in San Diego. By the way, if you watched this season of South Park? Brilliant shit, man. I got to get back on the South Park horse. I heard they're going after everybody.
Starting point is 01:47:53 School shootings, everything. God bless them. When you're someone like South Park that has that kind of power, the way they use it is so just. Yes. They wield the fucking almighty sword of retribution, of comedy, of ethics. They're just right.
Starting point is 01:48:10 They're right so many times. I never disagree with them. Cut to them shitting on me. Did you see The Book of Mormon? I loved it. Yeah, I saw it. I haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 01:48:20 I want to see it. It's great. I mean, I'm not into musicals, so for me to love it, it shows how good it was. I hear it's amazing. It's really fun. Yeah, I was way, so for me to love it, it shows how good it was. It's really fun. I was way lit when I went to see it, too.
Starting point is 01:48:29 It's a really interesting thing that they're so prolific. They do that show every week, and somehow or another they manage to find time to develop not just a musical, but a really good one. It just makes you go, God, I'm such a lazy bitch.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Ugh. As Duncan thinks about how much time Oculus Rift is going to chew out of his life. Shit, that's the thing, man. You know, I understand the lazy bitch theory, but fuck, what are we supposed to be doing on this planet if not burrowing into the imagination and digitally experience alternate realities
Starting point is 01:49:04 for something that's for the first something that's for the first time in human history is has happened it's a brand new experience what am i supposed to do go to some fucking pool hall and bet 15 bucks to show ideas let him know what the fuck's wrong with what he just said i have no idea i have no fucking idea because i'm looking at him i know he's a brilliant dude. So you'll go home right now, and when will you be outside in daylight again? The truth. Because I know there's times years ago where you'd disappear. Depends on if there's daylight in the Oculus Rift land that I visit.
Starting point is 01:49:36 So if you set it up tonight, you shut your phone up, lock the door, hide the window. Hide the window? Cut to new headlines. Young gamers finding Oculus Rift makes their body produce vitamin D without the sun exclamation point it actually triggers it you don't need sunlight
Starting point is 01:49:53 you first worlders are all stuck on your fucking sun and the light when will you see the sun again when will you see light look at this guy omnidirectional treadmill I gotta get one of those. Do you know who wants to fuck that guy, though? What?
Starting point is 01:50:06 No one. No one wants to fuck that guy. Someone wants to fuck you, Duncan. Take advantage of that. Look, see, what does he have on the wall? Big girl with giant tits that will never have sex with him. Voluntarily. Unless her rent is late.
Starting point is 01:50:19 You know, man, I think there might be a great many people out there who aren't being fucked at this moment. For sure. Why shouldn't they get to run on a treadmill and experience some magical, weird realm? I think they should, but I find it shocking that the first incarnations of it involve violence and not sex. The first incarnations of this... No, my friend put on Oculus Rift porn. Yeah. He says that you look down and you see your dick.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Yeah, but what are we looking at right here? We're looking at violence. This is the Iron Patriot. We're looking at dudes with guns. They're running around. They're hiding behind barrels. They're trying to snipe on people. They're being assholes.
Starting point is 01:50:51 So, like, you know when you give a squeaky toy to a dog? Oh, boy, do I. And you realize that that squeak is the sound of an animal dying, and that's why they like the squeak, because that's the sound of an animal. I never thought about that until right now. That's what it is. So, like, you know know your sweet little dogs chewing on this thing it's squeaking just like an animal would if it were biting it
Starting point is 01:51:10 well that's what these games are for humans there's squeak toys they like let humans experience the you know aggressive side that exists in all people you know there's this thing where people are always shocked like to think that we're using this for violence. But it's like, look what we are. I think it's cathartic. Yeah, it's cathartic. I think it's cathartic and it helps people get out aggression or just experience bizarre states of being.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Joey, you don't fuck with games, period. You've never fucked with games except pool when you were at the bar when you're a young kid I'm a what's amazing shit if I'm amazed yeah crossword puzzle and I'm a Pac-Man dude if I go if I miss Pac-Man is apparently better in Hollywood these powerful male feminists what they do with this machines now they're taking all those games. They put Miss Pac-Man, Pac-Man, the one with the missiles,
Starting point is 01:52:09 the ones that start from scratch, all that shit. I watch Pawn Stars too. I know this. Pawn Stars, I don't know. They fucking sell
Starting point is 01:52:17 those games. So it's amazing. He always has one. They sell it to a bar. Oh, they have it at Death Squad. The guy that sent those 4K TVs,
Starting point is 01:52:24 he sent us one, like a big arcade and it has like 500 games on it. Is that called MAME? Is that what that is? I think it's a bar. Oh, they have it at Death Squad. The guy that sent those 4K TVs. He sent us one, like a big arcade and it has like 500 games on it. Is that called MAME? Is that what that is? I think it's a MAME technology. Do you know that people think that I'm a fucking Nazi because of that stupid zombie robot? People are so stupid. There's so many people that are like looking to find some sort of crazy
Starting point is 01:52:40 conspiratorial connection that they've decided that because at Brian's studio at the Ice House, which, by the way, I have zero input on how he designs. He just does it himself. I'm not a control freak. And Brian has a fucking zombie that this dude, do you remember Homeboy's name?
Starting point is 01:52:57 Yeah, let me find it real quick. Dude's a, he makes those for movies. You know, like that movie Dead Snow. Did you see Dead Snow? I don't think I saw it. Great fucking movie. Stupid as shit, but great. And it's all about zombies that were, they were Nazis.
Starting point is 01:53:14 And somehow or another they became zombies and got frozen up in the fucking South Pole or some shit. And these people are out there, they're camping out. And then the zombies come and get them. The Nazi zombies. It's hilariously stupid. So he has one of the zombies from Dead Snow. It's a fucking movie Okay, he's got this zombie at his studio and I get all these messages from people. They're saying yeah I always knew that he had a problem with Jews
Starting point is 01:53:37 That's why he's got a zombie at his studio that has a swastika on What I'm not falling asleep. I saw you falling asleep. Joey had his eyes closed. He was like this. I'm going to take a nap. No one's going to see me. You wake up early.
Starting point is 01:53:51 No one's going to be at any of the Y's. Joey wakes up. I'll wake up and look on Twitter, and Joey's been tweeting since 4.30 a.m. When I go to bed, we change off. We have strip. You ever see that cartoon where there's a sheepdog and the coyote? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:05 And they meet. I'm the coyote. He's the sheepdog. We meet. Morning, Frank. Morning, Sam. Let me tell you what happened. I was doing fine today.
Starting point is 01:54:15 The whole day was going great. I stopped at the weed store at about 1230, 1215. In the afternoon? Yeah, just now. After you were there last night? No, I wasn't there last night. The night before last you were there. No, no.15. In the afternoon? Yeah, just now. After you were there last night? No, I wasn't there last night. The night before last you were there? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Which night? Tuesday was when I tweeted the thing. I went in there this afternoon. I went to the one on Lancashire to lock up. They have edibles and reefer. They got a lot more selection. The other place just has strong fucking weed. Right.
Starting point is 01:54:39 This one has pre-rolled joints of dynamite. They've got edibles of dynamite and weed that's dynamite so I go in there this afternoon and I shouldn't know if the guy goes hey I got this new thing I want you to try
Starting point is 01:54:49 it's a fucking little brownie thing and it's just he goes these people always have solid stuff tell me what you think I took a bite out of it
Starting point is 01:54:58 and I could tell it was going to be a ride I could tell I took a bite out of it like a little bite yeah and I'm like wow and also it's been hitting me this afternoon but i'm all right these crazy hippies are so inconsistent they're
Starting point is 01:55:09 so inconsistent with their product like you'll get a 5x cookie that's not that big a deal yeah and then you get one that makes you think about everything that went wrong from ages three to six you'll see it all play out in front of you. Man, I bought one of these chocolate bars and took a little bite of one. A tiny, tiny, tiny little bite. I fucking, like, within two hours
Starting point is 01:55:36 You could taste it. It was when we were having the heat wave. I'm so paranoid that I'm like, I'm just going to go fucking jogging. I'm going to go jogging and try to sweat it out. I'm running by the LA wave. I'm so paranoid that I'm like, I'm just going to go fucking jogging. I'm going to go jogging and try to sweat it out. I'm running by the LA River, look down, see some guy taking his pants off. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Suck his cock? What did it taste like? It tasted like river water. It tasted like God. It's like a brownie. I found the perfect dose for me, edible-wise. It's LA Speed Weeds gummy bears. Two gummy bears. Perfect. Right. There's a little confusion
Starting point is 01:56:07 when it comes to, like, breast strips. Breast strips are very tricky. I never go with a full breast strip, because you don't know what the fuck. Never. It can get too scary. But the gummy bears, for some reason, seem to be pretty consistent. I think it's how they make gummy bears. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Who knows? It's a problem. It's illegal. That's why we have to have this fucking conversation. Well, you've got to be careful, because a lot of people, they go and get their prescription, and then they go next door and buy some marijuana brownies, and they think, oh, it's just a brownie. I'll eat the whole brownie. And then Satan is dragging them by
Starting point is 01:56:40 their hair. No, this brownie kicked my ass a little couple minutes ago. It has been fucking wrestling with me. I took one bite of it, but I knew how it was packaged, the whole thing, these are real. Yeah. I know these people. I'm like, wow, this is pretty fucking good. Yeah, well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:56:53 I think that it is important, and people that hear this and go, guys, you guys are talking too much shit about weed and talking about weed brownie. It really is something that people need to hear. They really do. Unfortunately. The eating of the brownie can really fucking be psychologically devastating. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Or the chocolate bar or whatever the fucking thing is. Any edibles can really fuck your world up. Your world up, Jack. Yeah. You got to be careful. And sometimes, I'll tell you, even like I learned with acupuncture, I never get high before I go to acupuncture because it turns into a complete different realm.
Starting point is 01:57:28 I feel every needle go into my skin. I feel every needle break the skin. I can hear it. It's like having Spider-Man sense. You can hear it? You can hear the needles. The pop? You can just feel them.
Starting point is 01:57:42 The needle correspond with your skin. When I'm not high, I don't feel that. And that's what kills me. That's what stresses me the fuck out. Once I feel a little bit of pain from the needle, it shoots up to my brain. If I'm straight, I'm fine. But if I'm stoned, it takes that little bit of pain and does something else with it. And next thing you know, I'm having a goddamn anxiety attack.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Yeah. So that's why I got to be careful with situations like that. Well, it's like I say about bombing. The best I've ever gotten at a stand-up comedy was when I bombed and realized that I need to fucking make some sort of corrections. That's the best improvement that I've ever gotten. It's similar to the feeling that you get when you eat a brownie or whatever and you freak the fuck out. I've been reading this book called The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Have you heard this, of this book? Who's the author? Chakingi Pankaj? Patanjali. No. It's Patanjali. I didn't know. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:58:38 But they talk about how the mind, how there's a term called vrittis. And vrittis is the term for a wave of thought. And so like your mind is basically all these waves of thought rolling through it, rolling through it. Each of those are a vritti. And those things are sort of, you are created by things in the external world or other thoughts or feelings that come into your mind. So when you get super high, what's happening is you're suddenly amplifying those vrittis. You're seeing these thought patterns that normally are way under the surface. And those thought patterns are, it's usually shit you've been
Starting point is 01:59:15 ignoring. Like for me, I'll start thinking about like, you know, like when I had cancer, that's, that would come to my mind. Like, shit, I'm probably going to die. I might die. This could kill me. me or you know Whatever the thing is that you've been trying to ignore or forget about it Just will grab your face and push you right into it and so the answer is to just embrace that thing Dissolve into it go into it go into it fly into the it's like Dante's Inferno The only way out of hell and Dante's In inferno is by going to the middle and climbing down satan's leg because dante never tried to suck satan's dick if you suck his dick as he comes in your mouth your brain explodes and you appear in the garden of eden with eden and she hasn't given
Starting point is 01:59:56 the apple to the snake yet eden's the stripper that live in the garden whatever whatever her name is that the whore that was Eve's Eve's friend like a tramp There's just some like dirty girl who lived there to they never did you don't talk about it Cuz all she did was just clean your ass was eaten. She had like wet warm towels She just wiped your ass out. We shot field Joey stopped yawning and Brian stop video start putting a video on him You gonna change the whole tone of this fucking show? son of a bitch Jesus You're gonna change the whole tone Of this fucking show You son of a bitch Jesus
Starting point is 02:00:25 Joey Diaz What are you doing this weekend? You making a movie? I'm so stoned Joey Yeah He's way too high I got till the 8th on this thing What is this thing you're doing right now?
Starting point is 02:00:34 The thing is I do Your life has changed No I always do one of these Every year I do a Disney movie Yeah but yeah but yeah I was at the fucking The storyteller show the other day Your life has changed
Starting point is 02:00:44 No brother That was a good fucking thing the other night Wasn day. Your life has changed. No, brother. That was a good fucking thing the other night, wasn't it? It was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. Ari Shafir's storyteller show, This Is Not Happening on ComedyCentral.com. Did you leave? You left. I had to leave.
Starting point is 02:00:53 I had to do Kevin and Bean in the morning. I had to get out of there. But the reaction that you got when you even walked in the building, your life has changed. It was rocking over there. You're living in a different world than you were living in a couple of years ago. No, I'm fine. I'm still in the same fucking world. I know you are, but it's interesting to watch, man.
Starting point is 02:01:10 It's pretty interesting to watch. What was the last gig we did together? Where the fuck were we? Boston? Milwaukee. Milwaukee. One of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Milwaukee and Boston were both insanity. Are you doing another of those dog movies? Yeah. Which one is this one? Dog that saved Easter. How many times is dog going to fucking save the world? Yeah, what one is this one? Are you allowed to say? Dog That Saved Easter. How many times is dog going to fucking save the world? Yeah, what the fuck is this? This is the fifth one.
Starting point is 02:01:28 Gary Valentine Pass. Look at Joey. Gary Valentine Pass. Have they brought you back? No, I always come back. But you're saying that Gary Valentine Pass. Gary Valentine Pass on this one. Wow.
Starting point is 02:01:39 I don't know what happened. Dean Cain. This is he took a little pit stop before searching for Bigfoot. This is cool. He's got a new show. He's got a new show on Spike. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With my pal Todd Disotel. They go searching for Bigfoot.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Brian, what the fuck did I get you? What happened? The girl's makeup? Is that what it was? No. They dress you up like a girl? You know why? In the movie, why?
Starting point is 02:02:00 Do you know why? Because they're scared of you, just like they do with black men. No, no, no. What, Maeda? Think about it. All the black men, they dress up of you, just like they do with black men. No, no, no. What, Maeda? Think about it. All the black men, they dress up like women? That was the third movie we did. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:09 That never addressed me. I'm like, oh, man. Dave Chappelle had a whole speech that he did on one of those talk shows about it, about, man, why is it when black men get famous, they always try to dress them up like a girl? It's true. Eddie Murphy. Think about all the different people.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Jamie Foxx. Think about all the different people that are dressed up. Keenan Ivory Wayans. Think about all the different people. Jamie Foxx. Think about all the different people that are dressed like Keenan Ivory Wayans. Think about all the different people. Big, strong black men, and it's hilarious. They dress up like women. Why, Joe Diaz? Why'd they do it to you? That was just a third.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Because they've seen you dick online. That's what it is. They've seen the Cuban egg roll floating out there like the Death Star, deep space. What's wrong with you? You know what I'm saying? We're over here. I'm stoned to the gills. I got Duncan to the right of me, Red Band to the left of me.
Starting point is 02:02:49 You got to be over here. Duncan, when are you jumping back into the comedy world again? This Saturday, I'll be at the Comedy Store. Oh, good. Googly moogly. What time, cocksucker? 11, 1045. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:03:02 There's something about that place, right? Still, to this day. Yes, shit. That's something about that place, right? Still to this day. Yes. Exotic, exotic place. Isn't that where fucking Hobo made his debut? That's exactly where he made his debut. You know what I'm saying? Who's Hobo?
Starting point is 02:03:14 Lobo. Lobo. Hey, you forgot about me. What's the new Hobo like? I don't, I've retired Hobo. Shut the fuck up. Why would you do that when it's on video? That's why.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Why does everything have to be on video? because the other people should enjoy it too what you developed was something that was really beautiful it was real well you know the problem there's a technical problem which is that it uses a pink floyd song and i super doubt that if i emailed them they're gonna be like yeah you could use our one of the most famous songs on earth for your comedy album. Guess what? What? That's a small part of that bit. Very small. That's not even one-tenth of one percent of that bit. But that's... That bit is...
Starting point is 02:03:51 I don't want to say any more because I don't want it to be a spoiler. You don't need that song, dude. That's silly. But I feel... You know, like, the next time I go back out on the road, I don't think I can bring Little Hobo. Talk to him, Joey Diaz. Tell him to put that fucking shit down on wax. I can't keep doing it, though.
Starting point is 02:04:06 You can't keep doing something. You don't have to keep doing it. You just have to do it and get it on DVD or get it on a video to put it on the internet. For that Little Hobo bit to not get out there in the world is a crime against humanity. I agree. Thanks, Joe.
Starting point is 02:04:19 You need to figure that out. Thank you. You need to figure that out. You need to figure out how you're going to get that out there. Okay. Because I can't tell you how many times I fucking howled with laughter at that out. Thank you. You need to figure that out. You need to figure out how you're going to get that out there. Okay. Because I can't tell you how many times I fucking howled
Starting point is 02:04:26 with laughter at that bit. I've seen that bit close to a hundred times, maybe. Yeah, maybe. You mean all the times we worked together? I love doing it. It's a fucking great bit, dude.
Starting point is 02:04:35 People need to see that. It's fun, and it's so you. It's so you. If anybody was wondering, what kind of comedy does Duncan do? I'd be like,
Starting point is 02:04:42 you got six minutes? Sit down and watch this. You know what's fucking cool, though, man? I can't give too much of it away, but I am going to be puppeteering a puppet. I'm going to be using a puppet for this show we're doing for MTV Digital that we're shooting right now. It's going to be really cool. A lot of spooky sketches. Okay, let's get into the Duncan psyche.
Starting point is 02:05:06 Let's find out what that's all about. Joey Diaz used to always say, this motherfucking Duncan's always playing around with the devil. One of these days he's going to fucking realize that devil's going to bite him right in the ball sack. It did. Did it? Did it really?
Starting point is 02:05:18 Took one of my balls. No, no, no, no, no. I don't really. No, I was just kidding. I was just kidding. No, no, no, no. You know I don't really. No, I was just kidding. I was just kidding. No, no, no, no. You know, listen, man. There's no dark side.
Starting point is 02:05:28 You can't be fucking around with the devil, Duncan Trussell. Well, that. You think you're being cute all hee-hees and ha-has. Watching the cartoons. SpongeBob. Well, my point is, I'm just joking around about that. But my point is, like, what is your fascination with this demonic idea? You're drawn to that angle so often like what what is it drawn to to what angle drawn to the angle of
Starting point is 02:05:53 you know obviously i don't believe that you think in these things like as far as being reality but the idea of a demonic entity the idea of evil incarnate i mean you've often talked about evil as like a philosophical idea like a location that you can get to you know man i've changed a lot in my life and there was a time when i actually did believe that there was some there there and i still have i know people who do believe in this kind of thing but you know why you don't anymore what you know why you don't anymore why your girlfriend's 24 you think that's why i don't anymore? What? You know why you don't anymore? Why? Your girlfriend's 24. You think that's why I don't believe in evil anymore? As you lick your vagina, it's like drinking out of a spring when you've been trapped in the desert.
Starting point is 02:06:35 You're trapped in the desert and you come down the hill and what is this? Is this an oasis? Is this a hallucination? And you get in that cold Colorado spring water and you just lap it up. 24's not old, Joe. That's not what I'm saying, Brian. I'm just kidding. That's a joke. I get it.
Starting point is 02:06:47 I know it was a joke. God. I think it's more of a, you know. There's that, too, though. You know what I like? There's that, too. Well, I think that that's a. Very good point.
Starting point is 02:06:58 That's not. That is not a record. Huge point. Joe Diaz. I'd like to say that that. He's a savage. You guys are embarrassing me. I, um...
Starting point is 02:07:07 But I... I like the, uh... In Hinduism, I like the whole cycle of things. Someone's panicking. They're going straight to the Bhagavad Gita. That's what I think. Oh, Jesus Christ. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:07:16 Fuck off! It's fucking Hindu time. You assholes! You ass! Let's talk about Congress and the die-bold voting machines, man! I can smell fucking lottery tickets. Let me get that Midnight Moon, whatever the fuck that is. Let me smell that.
Starting point is 02:07:27 Let me get a little blast of this. We're drinking moonshine here in the corner of the episode. Duncan, I pushed one in front of you. Do you not drink anymore? I'm scared. I'm trying to lose weight, so I'm not drinking alcohol. That's not going to help you. Being a pussy is not going to help you lose weight.
Starting point is 02:07:40 It's the exact opposite of what's going to help you lose weight. What's going to help you lose weight is being a savage. And what a savage does is occasionally they have a drink because they're a fucking man. They do whatever they want to do. And then they do squats. Well, what I want to do is not drink. Listen to me. I have kettlebells here in this building.
Starting point is 02:07:55 I can help you burn off. Are you going to throw one at me? I'm going to help you work out. After this podcast is over, I'll show you a squat routine that you can do with a fucking 32 kilogram. Okay, great. Okay, great. Okay, great. How much proof is this? A thousand. It's evil.
Starting point is 02:08:13 It'll hurt your mother. If you drink that shit, your dead parents will fucking kick around their graves. If you drink that shit, kids you grew up with in high school will crash into trees. Oh my god, that shit's fucking strong. It's so strong, it's ridiculous. People you've never met will get drunk.
Starting point is 02:08:30 People you meet in a week will fucking pass out at work. Does it taste good? It actually tastes pretty good. It's not as strong as a regular moonshine. It depends on what you think good is. If you're talking about good Kool-Aid, no. How about do what's good with ice cubes? What it tastes like, it's not that brutal.
Starting point is 02:08:48 It's interesting. They did, whatever this is, Jamie, what is this? What's the name of this company? Old Smokey, I think it is. Whoever these people are, they're bad motherfuckers. They know how to make some real moonshine. Because I've had some scary moonshine that hurts, and I've had some moonshine like this. It's pretty fucking smooth while
Starting point is 02:09:05 letting you know that it's fucking you up. But if you talk to somebody in Kentucky, they'll be like, yeah, that's like the wine cooler of moonshines compared to them. Building it in the backyard and stuff like that. I don't know, man. This stuff's pretty good. Duncan and I had some stuff in North Carolina. Remember when we
Starting point is 02:09:22 ate at that slammin' barbecue joint? Do you remember that? Yep. That place, what was it called? I can't remember, but it's fucking good. If you're in Raleigh, hold on a second, I need to let these motherfuckers get their props. Raleigh BBQ BBQ.
Starting point is 02:09:38 We ate the pit. Was it the pit? That's exactly what it was. I thought it was. They gave us some moonshine, some peach moonshine. That's exactly what it was. I thought it was. They gave us some moonshine, some peach moonshine. Oh, my God, it was good. God damn, it was good. First of all, the barbecue there, if you're in Raleigh, that place is sensational. It's so good.
Starting point is 02:09:58 It has four stars if you go to the reviews online, but that's just because 10% of the people in the world have their fucking head deep in their ass. If the world was just and pure, that would be a five-star place. No doubt about it. And they had this insane peach moonshine. And you would drink it and you'd go, whoa.
Starting point is 02:10:20 And you also like it because you know it's illegal. You know I hate booze, right? You know I hate the taste of booze That's fucking delicious That's delicious Real Moonshine is Over 100 proof as high as
Starting point is 02:10:34 150 proof which is about 75% alcohol So you're drinking You're freebasing booze And what is this stuff It should say on the side of it. Does it say the proof? Yeah, it should say right on the bottle right there.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Can you read it, Joey? If you eat bad pussy and you eat this and you drink this, you're saved. It'll save you. It'll kill all the HPV. That'll kill all the HPV right out of your fucking tonsils. You won't go on Michael Douglas. I won't be spitting fucking little yellow buttons tomorrow. I can't read the proof.
Starting point is 02:11:05 Where does it say it? Does it say it in the front? Here you go. I'm sorry. Oh. That's good, too. It says 50%. That's 100 proof.
Starting point is 02:11:17 Is that 100 proof? Why wouldn't it just say 100 proof? Oh, it does say 100 proof. Another spot. 100 proof? Yeah, it's 100 proof. It's not bad? No, it's not bad. It's pretty good. What's whiskey? Another spot 100 proof? Yeah it's 100 proof It's not bad? No it's not bad What's whiskey?
Starting point is 02:11:27 90 90 proof? Yeah So it's just a little stronger than whiskey That tastes delicious though With some ice cubes With a fucking cigar Oh yeah
Starting point is 02:11:34 With an ice cube With a little mild cigar guys Another big one A little one Three hours to kill Maybe something to watch In a fucking casino in Vegas While you're...
Starting point is 02:11:46 A little Monte Cristo? Something. Yeah, a little Monte Cristo. That's perfect. The problem is when Jamie first originally gave it to me, I didn't think it was that strong. So I was just drinking it like a drink. And I almost drank like a half a bottle of it. And that's like drinking a half bottle of Jack Daniels.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Yeah, you get fucked up. How many guys did you fuck that night? Just you. What? Oh, shit. Wah, wah, wah. Yeah, you get fucked up. How many guys did you fuck that night? Just you. What? Oh, shit. Wah, wah, wah. Yo, yo, yo, yo. This is legal to sell.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Shut up. This fucking podcast sucks. I quit. This is legal to sell? Yeah, that's actually legal. That's legal. I can go to a bar and get this shit. Yeah, this has a barcode on it.
Starting point is 02:12:22 Wow. Midnight Moon. That is fucking delicious. Rice cubes. As long as they have one of those fucking things on it, that's legit. That means it's gone through the government taxes and all that shit. Man, I wonder what the fuck is going to happen to this country now that we realize that these assholes can't communicate. They can't get along so badly that they're shutting the government down.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Like, they're throwing a temper tantrum. And then they're not working their way through this and they're shutting the government down. Like, they're throwing a temper tantrum, and then they're not working their way through this, and they're shutting the government down. I read this thing on Reddit that I thought was a really cool solution, which is adding to the Constitution some way to, if this happens, to do re-elections for everyone
Starting point is 02:12:54 so that we can just... Yeah. We can wipe the slate. That's a good idea. That's incompetence. That's clear incompetence. And apparently, if, like, all the states wanted to do that, there's a way to do that.
Starting point is 02:13:06 There's actually a way for the states to band together so that we can do complete re-elections. Since it's not working, they can't do their jobs. It's not working. Let's get new people in there. Have you seen Rand Paul and some other dude got caught in a conversation with their mics on about the reactions that people are going to have to all this? No, what do they say? They're just talking about hedging their bets. They're just talking about saying all the things, the talking points,
Starting point is 02:13:30 or all the things they were willing to compromise on but the president wasn't. It's really spooky stuff because it comes down to this gigantic system grinding to a halt because a bunch of people are in an ego battle and they're playing a game of chess. Well, it's almost like the founding fathers built into the machine a thing that I think is supposed to alert the population that we have to do something more. I think that's what that is. I hate saying this. I don't know why I hate saying it, but I just saw Jesse Ventura on Piers Morgan. And he was giving this very intelligent, cogent description of what's happening, and he was saying this means that we need to have a revolution.
Starting point is 02:14:11 And it doesn't have to be violent, but we do need to revolutionize the way government works, because right now it's not working, and the reason it's not working is because there is a percentage of people who don't believe that they should have to get, that the government can impose health insurance or that it can make people buy health insurance. You know what I think? I think the government has to adapt just like the porn industry did. The porn industry came along and the internet came along and clipped the fucking legs out of the porn industry. Is there still porn available, Brian?
Starting point is 02:14:42 Yes. There is. That's right. You know why? Because they adjusted. They did what they had to do. And I think the government needs to do the same. The internet does not allow the government to be the same entity.
Starting point is 02:14:53 It's too obvious where the money comes from. We know too much about lobbyists. We know too much about the influence of corporations. We know too much about Congress. Now, Congress has been influenced to the point where they're willing to actually allow corporations to vote as humans and with their money and and and have no limits on how much they can contribute to individual candidates who will eventually serve their business needs once they get into office it's nonsense and we know it's nonsense now because the internet just
Starting point is 02:15:19 like we know that 39.99 for a dvd you know, insert the blank, Tara Patrick. You don't have to do that when you can go to YouPorn and just, it's free. Just beat off online. And we know that now. So that kicked out the legs. Digital information, one's in a very different way. But it's the same thing. The internet has kicked out the legs of politics,
Starting point is 02:15:42 and politics is holding on by a fucking claw. They're hanging on like that kitten in that hang-in-there poster. It's getting to the point where we have to do something. Wars will happen, just like the Ice Age eventually stopped, or just like war eventually ends, just like we got out of Vietnam, just like the Civil War ended. Something will eventually break, but we'll get to a, just like the Civil War ended. Something will eventually break. We'll get to a point where we're like, enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:08 Well, let's just hope. I mean, I don't – by the way, lately I've just been trying to avoid the news, which is hard when you're addicted to Reddit, but I've been trying to avoid it completely. But if what they're saying – if it's not just a bunch of bullshit, if what they're saying is true, then it's not just a bunch of bullshit if what they're saying is true then we could go into another recession because of this this could drive us into another recession yeah and if that's the case then um well then that means that we have to get a new there needs to be a new government because there's no reason for us to go into another recession
Starting point is 02:16:40 you know that how many of them are there in the government? Yeah, how many? How many senators? How many congressmen? That's a really good question. How many? I don't know the exact amount. There's an exact amount. What is it? 200 people? Yeah. And how many people are on the planet? Or on Earth? And how many people are in the United States? Because the shit that happens in the United States affects the entire planet. So it's like the fact that there's... I don't know. it's sad that i don't know the in number of senators and congressmen in the you don't need to tell us is whatever this tiny tiny tiny number is
Starting point is 02:17:12 compared to that with ocean of humanity uh... the fact that they're creating an unnecessary situation where we get off theoretically suffer uh... shows that we as the people have been conditioned to believe that we're powerless. And so that conditioning needs to go away.
Starting point is 02:17:34 And the moment it did and we organized in a nonviolent way, then they would immediately start listening to us. It's just that everyone gets so mad. Oh, the government doesn't represent the people anymore. It's like, well, that may be true, but what are we doing to organize to make it so that they start listening to us again? We need to do that. Well, yeah and no. I mean, yeah, and that something's got to change.
Starting point is 02:17:56 And no, in that really what would be optimal is if the people that were in positions of power realized they were fucking over the world. That would be the best. If they said, hey, guys, we ate some peyote and we realized we're a bunch of cunts yeah so we're willing to like try to figure out how to figure out a way how to reward people for the work they've already done right but yet move forward in a much more ethical way of distributing wealth good luck man these are good luck that's socialism talk you fucking comm. And these people are fucking human fossils. Look at, imagine taking peyote with Boehner. Imagine like, that's the, can you imagine looking across at that guy and he's like transforming into Howdy Doody in front of you? His eyes are glowing red.
Starting point is 02:18:37 No way, man. I don't know if it's possible. It seems like these are earlier versions of human beings whose entire operating system has needed an update since the 70s. Imagine if you hadn't updated your iPhone since when iPhones came out. That's what these people are like with information. But they're way worse than iPhones. These motherfuckers. Because they murder. They're on a BBS board in the early 90s with a 14-4 modem.
Starting point is 02:19:06 And the shit cuts out every five minutes. They're not on top of the ball at all. Yeah. Well, the whole thing's fucking wrong, man. I had Christopher Ryan on my podcast, and he was talking about how in indigenous cultures, the people who never are allowed to become leaders are the people who indicate that they want to be leaders. Like, those are always the ones people avoid as being the leaders. And the ones who end up being leaders are the ones who know the most about certain things, like fishing or hunting.
Starting point is 02:19:34 Those people are naturally followed. Right. They don't fucking throw makeup on and try to get in front of a, try to hypnotize a country by saying the exact same thing everyone always says. Good evening. Yeah. My fellow Americans. President talk. That weird cadence. Why are you talking like that? of a try to hypnotize a country by saying the exact same thing everyone always says good evening yeah my fellow americans president talk that weird cadence why are you talking like that what the fuck is that exactly we've talked about that a hundred times on this show you and i have had this conversation like if you were sitting at home with a guy and he started talking to you like that you would stop him you'd be like what the fuck are you doing are you trying to hypnotize me
Starting point is 02:20:01 can you imagine if joey diaz was sitting across from Obama? Joey, what we're dealing with right now, bipartisan efforts have been reached. We have reached out to Republicans who are unwilling to bargain. Yeah. People are like, you're fucking killing me, dog. Why are you talking to me like that? Yeah, and also the way...
Starting point is 02:20:19 You're freaking me the fuck out. North Bergen, New Jersey, 1978. Look at this picture. Look at me, motherfucker. I'm on a basketball team with a bunch of guineas, one black guy, and a Filipino. Why are you talking to me like that? What's happening is diffusion of...
Starting point is 02:20:33 Joey's gone. You're so gone. I've never seen you more gone than a podcast. I'm watching my boy. I'm listening over here. How high are you on a scale of one to a billion? I'm like six. For Joey Diaz to be this high, man, whatever you took must have fallen out of a spaceship. Yeah, yeah, I got to see what that is. I got to see what that is.
Starting point is 02:20:50 That shit must have come out of a time machine in the future. It's that dude that we met in Utah, the black hole, the bulletproof wolf that popped out. A portal opened up and a worm vomited out whatever you ate. The orbs, basically. Basically the orbs. Yeah, man. Took a cookie to Joey Diaz's house. I've never seen you like this.
Starting point is 02:21:10 I'm talking about people who smoke dope and people who don't smoke dope and how the people who don't smoke dope worry me. Because the people who don't smoke dope have just called me eight times after I told them for the last eight days that I was doing your podcast today. From one to whatever, they've continually called me today and the people who don't smoke the people who smoke dope they don't bother me they're at home they ain't trying to fucking call me what do you mean what do you mean people who don't smoke just a friend of mine that wanted to do something friday oh I see and I said to him listen I'm gonna be busy from like one to like five maybe six maybe I won't see you. Yeah. But I'll call
Starting point is 02:21:46 you when I get out of there. Yeah. He's already called me three times since I've been in here. Yeah, it's weird. Are you getting mad? Are you getting mad? No, no, I'm not getting mad. I just thought I spoke to him about it. And it's just weird how people don't fucking listen. They don't listen. They don't care to
Starting point is 02:22:02 listen. They don't want to listen, you know? Right. It's just, it's always you know. So. It just, it's always, you know. So, that's it, that's all I was thinking. That's it, these motherfuckers don't want to listen. They don't want to fucking listen. I don't ask for much. Who does want to listen, Joey? Nobody.
Starting point is 02:22:16 Me neither. I don't want to listen. That's why we did that. Too busy with my own shit. I'm trying to sort out my own shit. That's right. Don't need to listen to anybody. That's right.
Starting point is 02:22:24 Duncan. Matt, when you get around somebody who's listening to you, it's the coolest feeling ever. Like, wow! Hence the 24-year-old girlfriend. Mystified. You string words together like a wizard.
Starting point is 02:22:38 Boom! No. Like, buddy, you know I love you. You're a savage. You take these girls. I love it. You teach them. You're a guru. I'm these girls. I love it. You teach them. You teach them. You're a guru. I'm not teaching. She's really super fucking smart.
Starting point is 02:22:49 Oh, she is. We're just joking around. These are jokes. Very smart. See, this is honorable because you like her so much. This is where you stop joking. You halted the joke. Come on, guy.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't even joke around about it because you actually like her. It's sweet. It's sweet. It's sweet. Well, if we were, yeah. It's sweet. It's sweet. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:23:08 I think you're supposed to do that. You are. You are. Well, it just shows that that's who you really are. You know, that you're, you really like the chick. She's cool. Nothing wrong with being 24. I was 24 once.
Starting point is 02:23:18 By the way, when I was 24, I was dumb as fuck. You wouldn't want to be friends with me. If I was 24 and I was in this room, room you'd be like get that dickhead out of here go i was so dumb when i can we didn't have the internet what we didn't have the internet we didn't have it well i i had rudimentary we we had rudimentary internet please you didn't have the real internet internet you had to download jpegs and it would take a long time you just hoped that it would like click over the tits so you could start masturbating. That's what porn used to be, is waiting for those lines of pixels to roll down the screen. Well, you know, I think that it took a long time for us to figure out what to do with it.
Starting point is 02:23:57 So the early internet, like I was on the internet in 94, but I didn't learn a goddamn thing until 2003. Right. I didn't learn anything. but I didn't learn a goddamn thing until 2003. Right. I didn't learn anything. It was all just talking shit and message boards and downloading porn and nonsense. And then somewhere along the line,
Starting point is 02:24:13 that all got boring, and I started learning shit. I think we started paying attention more to things. It was also like three years into my pot journey, I started with the weed around 2000. So that's when i started questioning a lot of different things at about 2000 delving into the internet deep thank god for the internet it's revolutionizing everything man even like fucking taxis like uber oh it's amazing
Starting point is 02:24:35 are you fucking shitting me man it's the exact same price as a taxi tell people what it is there's a there's a i'm not sponsored by them at all i just just love them. I only used them once. It was incredible. There's a company called Uber. It's an app. You go onto Uber. You click a button. When I did it the first time, they send a limo to your house, and it was there in two minutes.
Starting point is 02:24:58 It's the exact same price, maybe $5 more than a taxi. It's incredible. Yeah, it's a sweet move it's great in new york city it's a it's amazing and it's and the taxi companies in la took them to court and tried to sue them so that they couldn't exist really because it's such a competition i just talked to a taxi driver all about this and he said there's good reasons for it too my friend i'm not friend this guy i know drove for one of of the Uber type things. I think it was Lyft. He got in a car accident with three other people while he was driving.
Starting point is 02:25:33 And you would think Lyft or this company would insure everybody. But no, he's getting sued by everybody in the car. And his insurance isn't supposed to be covering when he's working. And a lot of these people don't have the right insurances. So when you're in an Uber or something like that, they're not getting approved by the state they're not getting insured so they're it's kind of almost illegal in some ways so what i would never do anything illegal right but the taxi drivers have now all have their own apps now like like like the yellow cab app has the exact same thing uber has now so they're actually catching up trying to do yeah but still even if the yellow cab app works you're still in the back of a fucking taxi with uber you're in like a super
Starting point is 02:26:08 nice car bottled water in the back yeah and it's the same part the main crazy thing about is it's like five dollars more they can't compete there's no way they're going to compete with that like once people start really finding out about it who's going to call a fucking cab why yeah why would you and it takes longer to get a cab when i when I did the uber thing it was there in two minutes like you know when you see your dog take a shit and instantaneously there's a fly on the shit and you're like how is that possible where do they come from fucking uber there's so many people out there driving limos yeah the number of people driving limos is pretty gigantic. It's amazing.
Starting point is 02:26:45 Yeah. I mean, think about where you're at. You're in the Los Angeles area. The amount of airplane pickups, airport pickups. Airport pickups are what limo driving is all about. Right. I worked for Fifth Avenue Limo in Boston, and 90% of my work was airport pickups. I worked for a limo driver, too.
Starting point is 02:27:00 Airport pickups. I work for a limo driver, too. Take people up, take them to New Hampshire, take them anywhere from Logan Airport, all like in a hundred mile spiral, you know, in any direction. Awesome. Yeah, so there's always a bunch of people waiting around. That's the other crazy thing about limos is those motherfuckers work insane amount of hours. Like, it's not just a crazy, like, regular job, like 12 hours a day, 16, 17, 18.
Starting point is 02:27:25 Go back home, sleep for a few hours. They'll call you in the morning. I worked until 2 o'clock in the morning. These motherfuckers were calling me at 6 asking me to come back in. I was like, you're fucking crazy. And they were like, look, you got debt. You got credit card payment problems. You got this.
Starting point is 02:27:39 You got that. We'll take care of you. I'll tell you what. We got a fucking bounty of work. And they're like see mikey mikey over here the guy had he had a boston college sticker on his cadillac didn't go to college he just liked boston college all right he was just a limo driver it was kind of a sad character this guy just was all he did was work and he's like he makes a good living he doesn't have to
Starting point is 02:27:59 bust his ass you know he's in here 16 17 18, 18 hours a day sometimes. And he was like, that's how you do it. And he gets in his car and he drives off. And we're like, like, he's got a nice apartment. He's got a nice Cadillac. He's driving. Meanwhile, this guy was a slave. He was a slave to veal scallopini at the nice Italian restaurant that he could get anytime he wants. He was a slave to the fact
Starting point is 02:28:20 that he had a nice apartment with a nice view. He looked out his window. He felt like a winner. And he was a slave to his Cadillac with his BC sticker on it. And this fucking guy worked every day. And you could do that. The good thing was if you were in a hole, you were in a financial hole. It was good. They paid well.
Starting point is 02:28:35 You could work and you could make good living. That guy made more than $60,000 a year driving limos. And this was back in 1990, not even, 1989. So it was a long time ago. You know what else is cool about Uber? I'm sorry, Joey. No, go ahead. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:28:49 No, go ahead. No, Uber also, you know, listen, Uber obviously is $5 more than a cab. So what that does is that only cuts everybody again. Yeah. Like that lowers the price. I mean, it's good for us, but it's like some- Well, it's good for them, too. It's just bad for cabs.
Starting point is 02:29:04 At least they're busy. Yeah. At least they're busy. It's for them too it's just bad they're busy yeah they're busy it's bad for cabs they're busy you know at least uh instead of you know that same ride would cost 85 now with uber probably cost 55 did i tell you ever tell you when i drove jeff beck i drove jeff beck uh well i didn't i don't know if he was in yeah yeah, he was in my van. And the manager, I was picking up rock stars on a regular basis. And the manager for Annie Lennox was there too. And we went to some hotel where we saw Annie Lennox. But I wanted to get Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Starting point is 02:29:40 I was a big Stevie Ray Vaughan fan. Stevie Ray Vaughan refused lim limos would not take limos rode it in cabs so all he did was riding cabs you have a limo waiting for steve ray vaughn he'd be like thanks and he'd like taxi he put his hand up get a taxi throw his bag in fucking the back seat and bring his uh guitar in there with him and that's it he was gone he didn't want to ride in your limo man he wasn't interested wow it's really kind of interesting because they had a limo for him at Logan Airport in Boston. He's like, yeah, I'm not interested. He probably liked the thick smell of soup farts and cologne.
Starting point is 02:30:16 Well, he probably could do heroin much more comfortably in the back of a cab. Oh, yeah, right. I don't know if this was the time where he was doing heroin or if he was just being authentic. I don't know if this was the time where he was doing heroin or if he was just being authentic. Some people just decide that in order to do real art like that, like real Stevie Ray Vaughan type music, you've got to be down. You've got to be in the gutter. You've got to be down with the people. It's not about the gutter.
Starting point is 02:30:40 A cab driver is not the gutter, but a cab driver is down. That's a real dude. You're driving around a city and you're taking a cab and the cab is driven by a guy who lives in the city that's a guy who's working but he's also on the grind that's a real dude you know sure man i that's one way to look at things but every time i get in a fucking cab i feel like somebody just maced me with your car i don't feel like i'm with the fucking people i feel like i'm in a gas chamber filled with shitty cologne. Well, Jakar's all right, man. If you're trying to get laid and you live in Revere. Not when it's mixed with garlic burps and the smell of somebody's rotting prostate.
Starting point is 02:31:19 Every day they just pour Jakar into their asshole to try to cover up this rotting stink of their intestines. Riders on the storm. Doom, doom, doom, doom. Riders on the storm. Doom, doom, doom, doom. Duncan, Saturday night, Comedy Store? Yes. Joe Diaz, where are you going to be at?
Starting point is 02:31:41 Next week, I'm with Ari Shafir at Cobb's. Suck upon it, people. Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Suck upon it. Next week, I'm with Ari Shafir at Cobb's. Suck upon it, people. Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Suck upon it. Next week, I'm going to get your shit together. That's a fucking fantastic show. Strap that motherfucker on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Don't fuck around.
Starting point is 02:31:55 Joey Diaz. Ari Shafir is very funny right now, man. He's on point. Yeah, no, we got this. He's on point. This is a good fucking show. This is a great show. Well, you know, everybody's been accelerating.
Starting point is 02:32:05 It's been fun to watch. I'm not going to say the bit, but the bit that you and I talked about on the phone that you're doing now. I don't want to say what it is, but it's fucking hilarious. Ah, thanks, man. I love watching everybody hit some new levels. That Liberace bit is one of the funniest bits I've seen in decades. I'm fucking writing new shit. I'm trying, man.
Starting point is 02:32:25 It's hard. It is hard. It's so hard to write and tuck something away and go, I'm fucking writing new shit. I'm trying, man. It's hard. It is hard. It's so hard to write and tuck something away and go on and write something around it and you get on stage. But you know what? I'm getting into the 50-minute bit now. I'm starting to dig those long sets now. I'm starting to realize that for years the 15-minute fuck-around set in
Starting point is 02:32:41 town was working. Now I just stay home and sleep. I just go into town at night early and do Thursday night and bring the notebook with me. And by Friday, I'm fucking loose, man. It's really nice to...
Starting point is 02:32:52 This is a different game. You know, it's a different game in the hour game. The hour game is different than the 15-minute game. Yeah, you learn a lot more, man. And the only way to do it
Starting point is 02:33:01 is to do it. It's like anything else. It's to do it. You can talk about it. I'm trying to write my hour. You're not going to write it, bro. You got to get up off your ass and it is to do it. It's like anything else. It's to do it You could talk about you go. I'm trying to write my hour. You're not gonna write it But you gotta get up off your ass and go out and do it I felt the difference in when I lived in New York, too It's one of the reasons why I did very few sets in New York City
Starting point is 02:33:14 I was like this seven minute set is just not cutting it seven ten ten minutes. That's not cutting it either Like I barely got warmed up I barely got get barely get cranking. And when you're going on the road and you're doing these long sets, it's the difference between doing a trailer and doing a movie. Right.
Starting point is 02:33:31 You know, the trailer, you know, you develop a totally different style. Yep. You have this like real quick, get to the point quickly, shock them early, be nice to them,
Starting point is 02:33:41 but yeah, get your point across. Thank you, good night. And it's a sprint it's a wild sprint you're running up a hill but the set when you're doing an hour and 10 hour and 15 hour and 30 that's a different animal that's an animal you're establishing a mindset yeah you got to do that all the time to do that and that's such a jarring thing when you've been doing that and then you come back and do a 15 minute set it feels really hard fucking weird it's a jarring thing when you've been doing that, and then you come back and do a 15-minute set.
Starting point is 02:34:05 It feels so fucking weird. It's less jarring, though, than the other way. The other way is way brutal. When you're going from a 15-minute set, and you think you know what you're doing, and all of a sudden you have to do 45, and you get 35 minutes in, and you're like, I'm done.
Starting point is 02:34:19 Yikesies. Yikesies. I got no material left. Where are you from, sir? Ah! And the fucking panic in your eyes. And just thinking, do I have any jokes I haven't done? Is there anything I haven't done?
Starting point is 02:34:29 Is there anything I'm working on that I haven't done? Scrambling through the Rolodex of your stone brain desperately for some scrap of a joke. Well, for me back then, it was not even stone. It was hot. It was totally straight. Right. It was totally straight brain. For the first few years, I didn't even have a beer before before I went on stage I didn't want to have that as a
Starting point is 02:34:47 crutch I remember the first time I went on stage I was shit in my pants I was like maybe I should go to get a drink calm myself down and I was like stupid if you do that you're gonna need a drink every time you go on stage just take your medicine dummy I remember telling myself that I just went out 21 years old take my medicine smart boy luckily crazy and smart at the same time crazy enough to know it's like a really smart kid who gets a 500 horsepower car and really shouldn't be able to drive it like you gotta be careful stupid you gotta know what the fuck you're doing with this thing you're gonna hit the gas and fly off a cliff riders on the storm Duncan Trussell Looking with the fucking beard
Starting point is 02:35:25 Joey Diaz Looking sharp with the fucking You've abandoned the fedora Is this permanent? I've abandoned it Can I shave your head? No No
Starting point is 02:35:34 And just leave the beard like Look at this my friend Look at this Tremendous That's what freedom looks like No way man Oh you say no way No that looks great
Starting point is 02:35:43 But I'm in no way I'm never shaving my fucking head, man. That's it. I am happy that I made all the mistakes that I made. All the mistakes that I made made me who I am today, and I've made them work for me. But if I could change one thing, it would be, not that I would necessarily,
Starting point is 02:35:59 I like the fact that I talk about the fact that I panicked about losing my hair, and so I got hair transplants, and I got a stupid scar on the back of my head but logically the one thing that makes the least amount of sense I should shave my fucking head when I was like 21 I just said you know what this ain't gonna last I should have just went with it because this is like so comfortable it's so like easy to do it's so relaxing it'sfactor now. And I know it's still a factor for you, my friend. Here's the thing, man. Here's the real factor.
Starting point is 02:36:29 You do every single thing cult leaders do. And I figure, shaving my head, I might as well go to the airport and start handing out USBs with your podcast. Just a little FYI, if I ever do start a cult, I'm not interested in being a leader. No, of course not. You're a leader. You can be the lead. Tell me what to do. I'll let you go.
Starting point is 02:36:51 I don't give a fuck. You can be the leader. Sure. This is what they play on the documentary after the mass suicide. Listen, behind that comet is a spaceship. It is a spaceship, but they won't take you unless you cut your balls off. So it's up to you. You want to live on this earth and be in perpetual hell?
Starting point is 02:37:11 Or you want to cut your balls off, put on the Nikes, get on this fucking spaceship. God, Duncan. Why not? Take some Alpha Brain before you do it. Take six. And do some jumping jacks, some Alpha Brain, some reefing. Kettlebells. Shave your head.
Starting point is 02:37:23 Some kettlebells. A hemp force. When is the vanilla coming out anyway? It's out. Is it out? Yeah. Jumping Jacks, the Alpha Brain, some Reef Room. Kettlebells. Shave your head. Some kettlebells. A Hemp Force. What is the vanilla coming out anyway? It's out. Is it out? Yeah. I just got a new bottle of it. It's vanilla with acai, Hemp Force protein powder.
Starting point is 02:37:34 It's fucking special. What's the vanilla taste like? Ooh, delicious. It's so good. We nailed it. We took a long time. This is not a slow process. It's been really...
Starting point is 02:37:44 First of all,ubrey is amazing yeah talk about a pure person a guy with pure intentions and a hard-working dude and a smart guy and deserves every good thing that's happened to him he's just an amazing guy like he's a really unique individual and you get it from his podcast you get it from his podcast. You get it from his, he puts down these videos. Like he made this one video about the psychedelic experience. I mean, he's a smart motherfucker. And I, you know, I found no weaknesses in his fence, you know, like a poke at people's fences and shit and try to figure out where the weakness is. He's a, he's a real deal, man. He's a young guy too too it's very admirable watching someone like go about trying
Starting point is 02:38:26 to uh make a business and do it correctly and do it in this day and age with all the scrutiny of the internet and all the cons just raining down shit rain on your head just opening their asshole above your head is emptying their bowels of failure upon your head at every point always like and in their defense in their defense if you pay attention to most of human behavior you're going to find people tend to gravitate towards the worst if they can get away with it you know they get away with what they can get away with but the the beautiful thing about people who are true psychedelic explorers, and that's a fucking gross term, but I'm going to use it anyway even though it's been co-opted.
Starting point is 02:39:10 True psychedelic explorers really are trying to do the right thing at all times. And they understand that you have this beautiful way of describing this thing about acting in a famine state and that it fucks people up because they act in this famine state. And the same amount of resources are available, but you go into a panic where someone who acts in a state of community and abundance has a much different reaction from the same amount of resources, the same circumstances, the same – completely based on the attitude. Well, yeah, and to get that sense of abundance, you actually have to experience that there is abundance. That's the thing. You can't fake it. You need to connect with what some people call the source
Starting point is 02:39:50 or whatever you want to call it. But once you connect with that thing, you realize that you're going to be fine. Your body isn't going to be fine. The planet, as George Carlin says, the planet's fine, but humans are fucked. Well, you go into that state, you realize, well, you're not permanent, but you realize there's a much, much greater thing happening than you. And once you plug into that, it gets more difficult to get back into those ego games that are usually based on defending whatever you consider to be the most important thing in your life.
Starting point is 02:40:20 Yeah, no, I completely agree. Yeah, I completely see where you're coming from. Joey Diaz, you done? You know me, Doug. I'm just waiting here for something, though. I need to see an opening. I need to see something to feed me, you know. You guys are talking about plans. Riders on the storm. Fucking Galacticos. We're talking about North Bergen, New Jersey, 1978, slinging dick like a fucking banshee on a trapeze. Red Band, what's going on? With a dick like a carpet roll.
Starting point is 02:40:48 Why are you fucking quiet, Red Band? You're not feeding me lines. You're not upsetting me about the podcast. Joey, this is not Red Band's fault. The micro fucking podcast. Both of you guys are too high. You're not fucking talking to me about the fucking nothing. You don't get a chance to talk on this podcast.
Starting point is 02:41:02 All right. I'm over here waiting for something to drop knowledge, but nobody's giving me a fucking lob. That's nonsense. They're not even throwing me a fastball. They're just throwing me curves. Who had the biggest dick in your high school basketball team? Let me show that picture. By the way, Joey Diaz has this live podcast he does once a month, and I was on his last one.
Starting point is 02:41:23 It was probably one of the funniest, one of the most fun times I've ever had in my life. You only do it once a month and I was on his last one and it was probably one of the funniest one of the most fun times I've ever had a good time you only do it once a month now if I'm busy I can't do Saturdays and one I want I switched up last uh the end of September into the Saturday night of Friday night it was great we had a fucking blast it really was a blast really was a blast because a lot of people work during the week right Right, right, right. So you really can't give them. So I've been trying to work it out, but this month I got busy. I can only do a Wednesday. But I'll try in November to do a Saturday night or something. Yeah, I think they're a different dynamic.
Starting point is 02:41:55 I don't think it's the best way to do all of them, but it's fun to do some of them somewhere. It really is to see what you draw from the audience. And that spot is a great spot to do it. Oh, and you get blaze, and it's dark, and you go up there, and it's the perfect place and time to be funny. Yeah. It's like going to where they shot Gladiator.
Starting point is 02:42:13 You got to fucking kill some motherfucker, and they throw you in that stage, correct? Coliseum! Same thing at the Ice House in that little stage, too. Yeah. The energy is so against you. Remember, you have people to the left of you, people to the right of you, and people in
Starting point is 02:42:26 fucking front of you, which is very rare. You have people taking your corners away, but not that wall. You can't bomb there. There's no way to run. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. There's no way. It's just, and it's perfect.
Starting point is 02:42:40 So you're up there and you're fucking, it's like that little cheat of the other night. That little stage was perfect. Even though you had people behind you. Sometimes that type of shit is good. You're forced to be real in an intimate environment like that. You only get five rows. Like cheetahs, it's like five, six rows. And it couldn't have been better.
Starting point is 02:42:58 Like, you know, that story that I told, that was the best I ever told it ever. And part of it is because of the energy in the room. The energy in the room. Same thing at the Ice House. Yeah. With that, now, to do a podcast in a theater, that's not for me, I don't think. I think it would turn it into a show host condition. Hey, Duncan, look, someone sent you a tweet that says, accept the inevitable.
Starting point is 02:43:19 Look at you. You look beautiful. Yeah. What is it? You look beautiful. It's Duncan Bald. That's really good Photoshop. Here, I'll retweet it, Brian.
Starting point is 02:43:26 If Duncan went to prison tomorrow, you'd come out in 10 years. That's who you look like. Nobody will recognize you. Okay, I just retweeted it. It's Duncan Shostak. Put it online. Bro, you look sexy as fuck. I had a fucking swastika to the forehead, and that's it.
Starting point is 02:43:36 Hey! You always have to go towards evil. Jesus fucking Christ. Come on, man. Swastika's not evil. What about all the Jews out there? They were fans. Where is your bitches? Son of a bitch. Swastika's not evil. What about all the Jews out there? They were fans. Where is your bitches?
Starting point is 02:43:49 Son of a bitch. Talking about Manson. Big time pimp. That's sexy. See, that doesn't look that bad. That looks beautiful. Come on, Duncan. I'm telling you. That looks better than you look right now. But Malin Khan did not accurately depict my hydrocephallic head.
Starting point is 02:44:05 That's a nice smooth head. I've got a warped, misshapen... You don't even know what you're talking about. I have a fucking smiley scar in the back of my head. It doesn't matter. It's the ultimate test of your ego. Your ego is trying to convince you that you look better with hair. You do not.
Starting point is 02:44:19 You look different with hair. I like it with hair. Okay, that's great then. But I want to ask you... But you don't look different. Why is there a compulsion in all cult leaders to have people shave their head?
Starting point is 02:44:28 This is something that really drives... Makes you submit. Because you can't make them shave their... It's so fucking weird. Because you can't make them shave their asshole.
Starting point is 02:44:35 That's why. Nobody else is like, you got to shave your head. No one I know is like, shave your head. It'll free you. Riders on the storm. Dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk.
Starting point is 02:44:45 You can follow Duncan Trussell on Twitter. That's D-U-N-C-A-N-T-R-U-S-S-E-L-L. Duncan Trussell in the motherfucking house. Don't bother following him on Facebook because most of those people aren't even really Duncan. You're talking to some strange girl. Some girl pretending to be Duncan who's in love with Duncan. Joey, there's fucking plenty of imposter Duncans. They're sprouting up as we speak.
Starting point is 02:45:10 How dare you lie to those people out there and not prepare them for the inevitable. Joey motherfucking Diaz. You can't get him on Twitter as Joey Diaz. Mad flavor. Because he is mad flavor. He is the only semi white dude who's allowed to have a nom de pleur.
Starting point is 02:45:27 Is that how you say it? That's right. Yes. Nom de pleur. Thank you. It's a pseudonym, ladies and gentlemen. Mad Flavor. Mad Flavor.
Starting point is 02:45:33 Mad Flavor. Mad Flavor. Next weekend. Mad Flavor. Cops. With the flying Jew Ari Shafir. One of the best shows you're going to see, period, anywhere. You're going to fucking have a good time.
Starting point is 02:45:39 Attell's up there this week. Oh, Jesus, Louisa. And then we come in. Christina and P is there Sunday. Tommy Segura from Sunday night. And then we come in on fucking Wednesday. That's how we do it. Oh. Opening up Jesus, Louisa. Christina and P is there Sunday. Tommy Segura from Sunday night. And then we come in
Starting point is 02:45:46 on fucking Wednesday. That's how we do it. Oh. Opening up doors. Promote. We're ready. We're there, cocksucker.
Starting point is 02:45:51 Oh. Bring the reefer, THC, the Santana arms. I don't give a fuck. Oh. We're coming in hot. Bring the grateful death acid.
Starting point is 02:46:00 Fuck it. This weekend, I'm at the Ontario Improv with the one and only Tommy motherfucking Segura, a.k.a. Tommy Bunz. Bunz. a.k.a. High and Tight.
Starting point is 02:46:08 Bunz. And he's there Friday and Saturday, and then on Sunday, it's the wonderful and luscious Tony Hinchcliffe. Tony Hinchcliffe on Sunday. Perhaps Joey Diaz will be stopping by this weekend, but we can't promise anything. Hopefully. He may, he may not. He may nap.
Starting point is 02:46:21 Trying to get down there. He may eat two cookies and go deep into the abyss and come back with new information in a physical form. You know me, guys. Brian Redband, what's up with you? You got a Friday night at the Ice House tonight? No, I'm going to be at L.A. Podfest tonight with Mark Maron and Doug Benson doing a live show. But October 31st, Death Squad's at American Comedy Co. for Halloween with Tony Hinchcliffe, Sam Tripoli, and a lot of surprise guests. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:46:47 And then November 20th, San Francisco Punchline. Oh, shit. Pew! San Francisco Punchline. By the way, one of the ten greatest clubs in the history of comedy. One of the ten greatest. San Francisco Punchline? Love it.
Starting point is 02:47:01 It's right up there with me. It's right up there with the Comedy Store or the Comedy Works in Denver. Right up there with the Comedy Store in Hollywood. Those perfectly designed clubs. Punchline San Francisco is the fucking bee's knees, Duncan. Peace. Anything to add? This is a beautiful 10th podcast or 400th podcast, whatever it was.
Starting point is 02:47:22 We love you. That's it. I fucking love these motherfuckers. We love these people. That moonshine was good. Can you appreciate all that this is going on? Or does it seem like, to me, it seems craziness. It seems like it doesn't even make sense.
Starting point is 02:47:34 None of it makes sense. It's just too many people. It's too many numbers. It's too nutty. I don't want to think about it. We just did Toronto. We did Toronto, me, Callan, and Tommy Segura. Might have been the fucking craziest weekend we've ever had ever.
Starting point is 02:47:46 It was madness. When Brian Callan went on stage to open up the show, I really wish I filmed it. I fucked up and didn't film it. They went ape shit. I mean, they went fucking ape shit. They went crazy. And then Secura came out, they went crazy.
Starting point is 02:48:04 Wow. Toronto was amazing. It was amazing. It then Secure came out. They went crazy. Wow. Toronto was amazing. It was amazing. It's hard to quantify how fucking good it was. Toronto's such a cool city. It's about as cool as it gets. But this thing that we're doing right now, this podcast, has changed my life. And I know it's changed your life.
Starting point is 02:48:18 I know it's changed all of our lives. It's some crazy shit. I ain't mad at nobody. We found a hole. We found a hole. We found a hole. Pulling people through. Fuck it. Come on through, fucks.
Starting point is 02:48:29 All right. We love the shit out of you guys, and we will see you next week. We got a lot of people coming up. I'm in negotiations right now. Not negotiations. Conversations with Sam Harris, Maynard Keenan, Neil deGrasse Tyson. We got a lot coming up. Greg Proops is coming up.
Starting point is 02:48:44 We got Graham Hancock is coming up we got Graham Hancock is coming back we should get Dr. Drew man we'd love to get Dr. Drew David Wilcox, we got a lot of people coming up a lot of interesting ones into November I booked a bunch of cool people in November as well
Starting point is 02:49:00 so Dave Asprey is coming back we got a lot of people coming back thank you everybody for allowing us to get to this crazy number of 400 we love the fuck out of you people we can't believe that this has gotten to where it is we never saw it coming Brian and I started almost 400 shows ago
Starting point is 02:49:17 almost 4 years ago just hanging out at my house with a laptop snowflakes, spinning apple logo yeah and here we are having a good time together still growing and we grow from you too we appreciate the fuck out of you guys and believe me it's no small thing that we we we have a great sense of of not we we owe you guys. I mean, that's how I feel. We have a great sense of attachment.
Starting point is 02:49:51 This is not just a one-way street. And we want you to know that we appreciate the fuck out of you guys. There's a massive amount of appreciation from Joey, from Ari, from Brian, from Duncan, from all of us. We love the fuck out of you people. From everybody. Tate and Eddie Bravo feels the same. We all feel the same. And thank you to all our sponsors as well. All of them, including the
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