The Joe Rogan Experience - #403 - Justin Collett (Part 2)

Episode Date: October 11, 2013

Justin Collett is a founding partner of The Action Report website, a website for pool & billiards enthusiasts from around the world.

Is that it? Yeah. We're live? We're back. We're back, folks. You know, we ended on a very important point. And we ended on a point so important that we had to bring it back up again. The lack of manliness in this fucking country, ladies and gentlemen, hurts me.

And here's something for you, man. And this is, you look at cinema today. Cinema's a big thing in the United States. It always has been. It sets trends. It sets, you know, kind of people's morals to a certain extent. So let me read you this. Let me read you this IDB.

How do you say it? Internet database? Yes, that guy. IDB. This man you say that? Internet database? Yes, that guy. IDB. Of this man, and he's one of my favorite dudes ever. But I'm going to read you this list of films he was involved with, either as a screenwriter or a writer. Okay.

Which a screenwriter and a writer is a guy who comes up with the idea of the fucking movie. So that's pretty important. It's huge. So here we go. Here's a list of movies for you. Dirty Harry. Jeremiah important. Huge. So here we go. Here's a list of movies for you. Dirty Harry. Jeremiah Johnson. Whoa.

The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean. Jesus Christ. Paul Newman. Magnum Force. Oh, my goodness. Apocalypse Now. Jesus! 1941, Comedy with John Belushi.

Hmm. Conan the Barbarian, the first one. Original. 1982. The one that made Arnold Schwarzenegger a star and future governor of California

Conan what is best in life you cross your enemies have them driven before you and hear the laminations of the women and to me personally

this is I'm a child of the 80s so this is like my movie my go go-to thing, Red Dawn. He wrote the screenplay for Red Dawn. First of all, how dare you? And how dare he? Both of you. Go fuck yourself.

This movie's terrible. Get the fuck out of here! I'm not driving a 78 Firebird anymore. What are you talking about? I'm not living in that time frame where that movie works. Back off, man. Red Dawn.

It's the shit. The shit. Red Dragons! What's Red Dragon? Wolverines, motherfucker! Whatever it is. You said Red Dragons. That's it.

That's because of Jason Ellis. That's one, like... Wolverines. It makes me sad that you don't know that. It's a good movie. It's not as good as Roadhouse, though. Clear and Present Danger.

Where were we at? Rome, the TV series, 22 episodes. That was a legit TV. Did you ever watch that? Rome? What year was that? 2005, HBO series. Wow.

I don't think I did. It was legit. That must be post-Gladiator they decided to do that. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that thing. Patrick Swayze. Yeah, it's right there, baby. That's the original legit Red Dawn.

Is that the trailer? Yeah. People try to tell me that Swayze. Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson was a motherfucking gangster. Swayze died from cigarettes. They try to say that. Did he?

I watched the last on Netflix. It says shit the beast, the last series that he did. And it was pretty good. But, god damn, he looked bad. He looked terrible. I mean, it was like you felt so bad because Roadhouse was a legit movie. Legit. It's hard to fuck with that.

Awesomely terrible. Hey, it's hard to fuck with that. It's got Patrick Swayze is a legit movie. Legitimately. It's hard to fuck with that. Awesomely terrible. Hey, it's hard to fuck with that. It's got Patrick Swayze as a bouncer with Sam Elliott as his mentor. And Ben Vereen. Who's Ben Vereen? Yes, the bad guy. The bad guy. I own this town.

But I don't care. Whoever the chick was with the giant jugs. Oh, she's so pretty. Yeah, she was pretty. She was fucking smart, too. I'm sure she'd take care of you. She was a doctor. She'd stitch you up, send you back out into the battlefield. Basically the perfect woman,

except she was your... I bet she looks like a rubber blow-up doll that's been left out in the sun for 20 years, if you could take a picture of her right now. I don't want to take a picture of her. I want to go back in time. Back in time, 1994? I want to smell her vagina. I want to smell like paradise. What about... I don't want to go back in time. Back in time, 1994. I want to smell her vagina. I want to smell like paradise. What about, well, I don't want to bring that up. We don't want to stir up too much shit.

But I was going to say, at that point in time, that was like the Steven Seagal era. That's when Steven Seagal, like. Roadhouse? Was that Steven Seagal era? That was like right about there because Steven Seagal started with Above the Law. That was legit. That was like 90, 91, right? Somewhere around that era.

89 maybe? That's what Roadhouse was. Roadhouse was 89. And it was awesome and still awesome. Oh, it's got some of the best lines ever. Until it's time to not be nice. Yeah. How do we know when that is?

I'll let you know. Pain don't hurt. Oh, that was great stuff, man. And the dude, he looks at Sam. Well, Sam Elliott's been a gangster forever. Actually, Above the Law came before Roadhouse. It was a year before. Yeah, it was 88.

That was his first movie. Look at this shit. He's doing kung fu. Look at shit. He's doing kung fu. Look at him. He's doing kung fu. And he was hanging out with that dude who was... Jeff... The guy was blind.

Great singer, though. Yes. Great blues guy. Yeah. Kelly Lynch. That's her name, right? She's so pretty. She's so fucking hot.

I don't even want to know what she looks like now. She will forever look like she looked dead in my eyes. Oh, that's the monster truck days. That girl's got entirely too many brains to have an ass like that. No, it's fine. It's fine. That's a quote from Sam Elliott. It's ridiculous.

Sam Elliott was incorrect. It's just a matter of being able to handle it. Look at the little chicken chest on Patrick Swayze. He's so lucky there's no black man in that movie. So lucky. Because there was a black man in that movie. So lucky. Because there was a black man that got injured in the same brawl. Oh, look, they did the fucked up graphic. That was the, they didn't have the original graphic.

Oh, well. See that? That's probably a post film. That was probably pre. I bet that was an early trailer. It might be, but did they have a lot of trailers back then? Yeah, the early, if you look at trailers for like for a lot of big films, they were all dog shit. It's not like now where the trailer's better than the fucking movie.

I have a real problem with trailers now. I wait for a buzz on a movie, and I try not to see the trailer. If I can see a trailer on my computer, I'll literally turn away. But I heard the Godzilla trailer was nothing. It was just like, someone said it was an amazing trailer, and it's actually like a proof of concept. It's a concept. Oh, okay.

They just started filming it recently on Oahu, according to Twitter. Have you seen a movie? I'm trying to think about it. I haven't seen a movie. The last movie that really made me like, you know what? Like, that's a badass. Like, that's a one for the ages i'm trying to think of it and the closest i can come is the departed

the departed was really good but avatar does it for me really i didn't know it was stupid i know it was dumb i know it required suspension because it's a bunch of hippie bullshit it's nothing more than it's it's like a bunch of fucking uh it's revisionist american indian history bro you're right you're right you're right if it was an original thought you got me i respect the technical aspects of the filmmaking because it's fucking amazing what they did but the story is straight up fucking patchouli bowl you can smell a patchouli you're totally right you're totally right however i feel it's my feeling that um a movie like that is a comic book movie and it's basically a vehicle for just showing you pretty things and getting you carried away

in a story sure and uh i i see your argument but I also see the argument of making it. No, I completely. James Cameron is a fucking genius. He's a wicked motherfucker. He's a fucking genius. Dude went down to the farthest reaches of the ocean by himself. Yes. I mean.

By himself. I think he's a stud, and I respect what he does, and I wish more people had the balls and ability to do what he does. I think you've got to have a giant fucking ego to do what he does and I wish more people had the balls and ability to do what he does. I think you've got to have a giant fucking ego to do what he does. But you know what? You get that ego by making movies that make hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. That's so true. You know, I was talking to people on my message board about there was someone was talking about there's a situation recently where there was a billionaire, a very famous cat, who denounced Steve Jobs and sold all his Apple stock. His name was Jay Robertson. He dumped all his Apple shares. And the reason why he did, he said that Steve Jobs is a really awful person.

Like that's his quote. And there was this big debate on my message board and and you know i started reading it and you know what what makes the guy an awful person and what doesn't and my my take on it was that it's like anybody running a company like that where you're running like an insanely innovative pressure-filled company that's trying to be at the very front of the line of the most competitive form of technology available, consumer technology in the phone business. I mean, they're so attached to people's, I mean, people fight over Android versus Apple or, you know, I got a Windows phone.

I'm a fucking contrarian. And it's a weird, very competitive Uber geek environment And Steve Jobs was the master of that shit The phones, master of the home computer He was the master He made exclusivity He came up with the very best stuff

And for him it was like It was everything It was his whole existence And for the people that worked for him It was a job, man Just like you talking about working at the auto, you know, working for Ford. It's just a job. If you had to work for Steve Jobs, you would have fucking nightmare stories about that cunt.

He'd be like, that guy's a douchebag. And to me, it goes, that's one of the things about, another thing I'm fascinated by is with modern media, new media, Facebook, Twitter, everything, just the way everything is, it's this thing that if you don't agree 100% with what an entity as a company does or if you think a person is an asshole, then all of a sudden that means whatever they make, whatever they do is not cool or not acceptable anymore. And to me, that's false. I see it's positive. I see it represents this unique need for accountability across the board. I understand accountability, but here's the thing, man. If you're in charge of getting something done, I don't give a fuck who you are.

If you're in charge of making something and putting product out the door, somewhere along the line, someone's going to say you're a fucking asshole. Someone's going to get butt hurt. Yeah. It's impossible not to. That's true. That's true, but I think it's important that someone- So now it's the fact that, okay, and maybe I'm guilty of it in certain instances, but at the same time, it's like, why not let the person's work speak for themselves? You know, I mean, okay, perfect example, music. I try not to get, I'm guilty of this. I try not to get worked up because I'm a conservative pretty much dude. Try not to get worked up because I'm a conservative pretty much, dude.

You know, if any, like I said, I feel like, and this is a problem that I run into with most left-leaning or whatever you want to call it, is I'm perfectly willing to let anybody do whatever the fuck they want. The flip side of that is let me do what the fuck I want. Right. Exactly. Let you be a man. Yeah. And that's the problem that most people fucking run into is they say, no, no, no, no. You have to fall within these parameters. How dare you want to do X, Y, Z?

You can't do that. We need to control this. Yeah. So my point is if any of these guys, you know, I don't give a fuck if you're a prick. I don't care if you're an asshole. I don't care if you got in a fight with the guy over here or you got in a lawsuit over some bullshit. If your product does what it says it will, you treat me right as a customer. Why would I ever be an asshole and not buy your shit because someone else says they don't like you?

Well, I think it's based on empirical evidence. That's not to say if a guy's a legitimate fucking prick look I've heard conversations that other people have had about me Right where someone has said that I was a dickhead I was like, oh man Let me tell you what that guy actually did that guy walked in and said this to my friend like right away exactly Of course, I was a dick to him. Right. Exactly.

He's giving me the creepy eyes. You know, he's saying that I think I'm too good. Whatever the fuck it is. There's two sides to the story. Exactly. And that's the problem with the way shit is now is that all of a sudden through an onslaught. Now imagine if you're just a fucking guy, just a dude. Yeah.

You know, that doesn't have a big media presence. Just a dude that doesn't have a big media presence. And somebody decides to, you know, you run into some asshole out here and they go, hey, look, you know, for whatever reason, something goes down. And all of a sudden they want to make you the asshole. Now, that's, I mean, is it right? Is it wrong? Not so much. Well, they're trying to reshape reality. They're trying to influence other people's opinions to justify their own opinions.

shape reality. Yes. And they're trying to influence other people's opinions to justify their own opinions. Not only that, but there is a fucking mob mentality of let's jump on board and we're going to fuck this guy. And I know for a fact you've been a victim of it. Me? Yeah, absolutely. With perfect example.

I mean, you're outspoken on certain shit. Perfect example was with the transsexual thing. I mean, you got your fucking nuts kicked in in certain circles over that. It's happened before. I mean, so... Yeah, but that was all important. You know, that was a good thing.

That was important for dialogue. Yeah. Like, it's important for those people to express themselves and be angry at me. You can't hurt my feelings. It's all right. I understand if you have a version of reality, the difference from mine, especially when it comes to describing me.

But here's what tilts me is when people want to start fucking with your income. Yeah. People start going, they don't go to you. But they want to be reacted to. They want to go, hey, look, fuck this, we're boycotting the UFC. They're calling your boss, or not your boss, but your employer, Dana White, saying, hey, look, you need to fire this guy because he's a fucking asshole. And to me, that's just like, that's the biggest pussy move on the planet. Yeah.

Because they can't argue what you were saying. They're not willing to have a dialogue and say, I disagree with you because of this. Let me try to swing you to my way of thinking. Right. They want to say, no, I disagree with what you're saying. I me try to swing you to my way of thinking. They want to say, no, I disagree with what you're saying. I'm a pussy. So fuck you. I'm going to try and take your money. Well, not only that, there's also something that's going on with people that disagree with certain people's opinions is that they're absolutely convinced that they are right

and that you are wrong. So because of that, they're willing to do almost anything to express the idea that you are wrong right whether it's distort reality whether it's to give their opinion in a very biased way excluding certain aspects of the facts whatever it is there's an ego battle along with the ideology battle my problem is when that ego battle is so glaringly obvious and you're not willing to admit that that's exactly what the fuck is going on you know like we said about the the transsexual thing like i'm happy to get the transsexual conversation out there because i think ultimately once the dust settles i think people should realize that it doesn't matter you know it doesn't matter if someone

wants to be a woman or if someone wants to be a man or however you want to live your life doesn't matter it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. What matters is how do you treat people? Well, at the same time, this has kind of been my issue with, uh, I don't know, alternate lifestyles, whatever the hell you want to call it, but it's, there's a difference between acceptance and it's like, okay, here, look, I accept the way someone wants to live their life. No problem.

That's on you. But don't expect me to cheerlead you. Well, you know what I think that's from? Don't expect me to be – it's like I will accept however you want to live your life. But accept the fact that it's possible there are people out there that are willing to accept it and say that's your right 100%. But that doesn't mean they have to agree with it. And if they don't agree with it, it doesn't make them a bigot. Right.

Well, people don't have to agree with anything. As long as you treat people fairly and kindly, it doesn't matter. That's what I really look for. And to me, that's a sign of someone that I will respect is someone that is willing to understand. And they can argue vigorously, you know, that I do not agree with what you're saying, but I respect your right and your ability to live the way you want to live. And I will not degrade you and I will not hinder you, but I do not agree with you. Yeah. I think it's a really important point to know that there's a bunch of different

ways of looking at the world and you might not agree with my way of looking at the world. It doesn't mean that you're right. It doesn't mean that you're wrong either. It means that you're, the fucking, the spectrum of thinking is so broad. There's a lot of variabilities. What's important, I think, as a culture and as a community, that anything that we agree to, we agree to on the basis, does it cause less harm than it does more good

than it does harm? And as long as we act in that way, we would allow anything. Basically, as long as it doesn't victimize people. Man, that's the way I look at it is, I mean, I could write up a bill of rights and it would be about eight sentences.

Maybe not even that. Basically, it's your rights end where mine begin. You don't get to touch children. And, you know, that's it. I mean, basically, just do whatever the hell you want to do, man. Let your freak flag fly. But at the end of the day, you know, that's it. I mean, basically just do whatever the hell you want to do, man. Let your freak flag fly.

But at the end of the day, you know what? You got to pay your taxes. You got to go to work. Let your fleet, say it again. Let your freak flag fly. Jimi Hendrix, baby. That's his line. You know, I mean, do whatever you got to do.

I don't give a shit. But at the end of the day, you're still a member of a community. It's the most important thing to say ever, and I fucked it up. Let your freak flag fly. Yeah. Let it. Freak party, 2014. Start a new political party.

I saw that. I'm down with that. It's Hunter S. Thompson had freak power in the 1970s. I'm going with the freak party for 2013 out of respect for HST and the gonzo movement. You know what's funny is in other countries with parliamentary systems, it's designed to where it's not a two-party deal. Well, my point is that put together a freak party and maybe get one or two house members. And they would have a, you know, but I mean, that's what's crazy. I think the way the system was designed, that was what was in mind.

It was never designed to be two parties. No, they hijacked it. And I think that I could be president of Canada. If you're willing to move to Vancouver, we can make some shit happen. I'm in Edmonton. I can't tell you, bro. I mean, I loveed. Yeah. And I think that I could be president of Canada. If you're willing to move to Vancouver, we can make some shit happen. I'm in Edmonton. I can't tell you, bro. I mean, I love Canada. You know what I love about Canadians?

They're the nicest people in the world. They're so nice. They have beautiful women. So hot. But fuck their communists. Their communists? Listen, only when it comes to health care. The only communists is the people that you interact with.

If you choose to interact with the people that are all socialist-y and they're trying to fucking nerf the world and provide nets over every ravine. I got two topics for us. Number one, tell me what the fuck you would have done in New York City if it would have been your

wife and your two kids in an SUV. In that SUV thing? Here's my take on that. And I'm sure you've talked about it before. We haven't really. It's the SUV motorcycle biker thing. I don't know how that guy was driving. I don't know what happened.

I don't know if anyone was aggressive. I don't know if anyone was clueless. I literally don't know. What I looked at when I saw the end where that guy drove over those people and drove over those bikes, I saw a guy who looked like he was panicking and it looked like he was surrounded, but without the information of hearing what these guys were saying to him or what had happened before that. I saw the one guy slow down and brake checked him. But apparently something had occurred before that where the guy had maybe bumped into a

bike or gotten too close to a bike. But apparently something had occurred before that where they were involved in an altercation with another automobile. And there's a video of that. And there's a mob mentality sort of an argument to be taken to. I think unless you're there and you see it all. Well, you know there was like two or three cops there undercover. I think it was five.

Five? Six? Six. Because the last I heard was three and then they arrested one. Well, you know, cops are people. There's a problem with that for sure. I don't know what the fuck happened, man. I really don't know who the fuck happened man i i really

don't know who got beat up new video the new video shows a guy got beat up apparently i don't know who caused what i don't know who deserved what i do know that i've been around some dudes and bikes that act like fucking cocksuckers but i do know that i've been around people in cars around bikes that act like fucking cocksuckers i do know that people tend to act like fucking cocksuckers. I do know that people tend to act like fucking cocksuckers. When they're in groups especially. And I don't know if it's the guy in the truck didn't know what the fuck he was doing or the guy in the bike didn't. I don't know what happened, man. I mean, I don't know.

It's pathetic. And from what I've seen, one of the best forum posts I've seen yet that described it was, I seriously doubt that that guy in the SUV woke up that morning, put his wife and kid in the truck, and said, let's go fuck with some bikers. But I'm willing to bet at least a few of those fucking bikers woke up in the morning, got on their motorcycle, and said, let's go fuck with some of these guys. Maybe. And it might be that just they all got together and felt the power in numbers and the intimidation. But at the same time, the break check thing, I mean, I've read different accounts and I've seen some different videos. And then you look at history, past performance is an indicator. It really is. What people do in the past.

Fast performance is an indicator. It really is. You know, what people do in the past. But to me, it just looks like, I don't know. The biggest thing that flipped my mind, those motherfuckers chased him like 50 blocks in Manhattan. Yeah. You've been in New York. Yeah.

How the fuck do you do 20, 30 motorcycles, 40 motorcycles chasing a guy through Manhattan? Where the fuck are the cops? Yeah, where are the cops? Where are the cops? I don't know. I mean, I don't know if he called the cops. I don't know if he had a flat. I think he might have had a flat tire, too.

I don't give a fuck. 50 blocks in Manhattan. You can't drive 50 blocks in Vegas. You can't. I mean, for fuck's sake. Well, you know, who knows what's going to come out about the undercover cops. Right. How much information. That's my question, is if one of those guys were calling him off.

Yeah, it could be. I mean. It could be. Is that possible? I don't know. You know, like I said, both sides are gross. It's gross if the guy was disrespecting the motorcycles, or it's gross if the guy was panicking and putting people in jeopardy.

It's also gross if they were bullying him. Well, but here's the thing. If the dude is, here's the way I look at it. The guy has stopped. Okay? The guy brake checks him. If you just started that video, dude brake checks him. Number one, if you're on a motorcycle and you brake check an SUV,

you're a fucking moron because you're going to lose. Yeah, that's not good. That's just, that's, number one, you're a dick. Even if you're 100% right, even if this guy almost ran you off the fucking road, okay, you got me. You're in the right. But if you get in front of him and brake check him and he runs you the fuck over, whose fault is that?

Even if you were right to be mad. So right there, one wrong. And so the guy gets on the brakes, and then the next thing, he stopped, and he's surrounded by these bikes. Now, if you're a guy, and here's another thing. It goes back to what we started about before. The whole thing about fucking people not being a man. Yeah. You know, here's this guy, probably never been in a fight in his fucking life, you know, never had to protect himself, never had to protect his family, and he's surrounded by these fucking assholes.

So what's he do? Panic. Exactly. Hit the gas. Gas. Ah! Right. Yeah.

Well, it's a scary fucking scenario, man. If it would have been me in that position and I was, I don't know. All I got to say is it would have been like, I don't know, Death Race 2000 being filmed. Biker checking them. Or like Every Which Way But Loose, the remake. I have been around both. I have been around very respectful bikers who ride down the road like 100 strong and waving to people and shit.

Sure. And there's no problems. And I've also seen assholes. I've seen assholes cut people off and get in front of people and there's a there's a thing when you have ultimate strength when most of your life you don't have ultimate strength most of your life you have a shitty job we have to respond to your boss you have a bunch of rules you have to live by and then all of a sudden you're in this fucking scenario there's the guy there's a cop the guy on the right is a cop wow the guy who did that

ran out the dude who got off the bike with the, either that or he's one of them. Wow. Because at least in the newspaper I saw, the dude had the, right there, that guy with the cut on, with the three-piece patch, he was a cop. Why didn't he do anything? Well, who knows? Exactly. Who knows what the fuck happened?

Or he's one of the cops. He's the cop that got arrested and charged. Two felonies. You know, I think that if you're a fucking biker this happened. He's one of the cops. He's the cop that got arrested and charged. Two felonies. You know, I think that if you're a fucking biker and you're with a bunch of bikers. Like right here. This shit? It's your responsibility to not get close to SUVs if you can avoid it. Well, no.

But what just happened right there? Yeah. No matter what that guy did, you don't do that. Well, that was after the guy ran over people. Yeah. But, I mean, if that guy does that to, I don't know. The wrong person with a gun in his car. Well, no, if it was me, okay, and I'm disparity of force, any state in the United States, that is a legal reason for excessive force.

Right. I don't care if you're a police, especially for excessive force. Right. I don't care if you're, especially for police officers. If you're a police officer and three guys come at you, even if they don't have any weapons in their hands, you are justified to use deadly force because it's disparity of force. No man is, no one person is expected, you know, there's nothing in the law that says you've got to take an ass whipping. Yeah. I mean, even if this is one-on-one, if the guy's a bad motherfucker, there's nothing in the law that says you've got to take an ass whipping. Yeah. I mean, even if this is one-on-one, if the guy's a bad motherfucker, he's coming after you.

If you're a woman, if you're a female, say you're 120 pounds. How about you're a man? Either that. If you're a 120-pound man. What if you're 180 and the guy's 160 and he's got a good punch? Shoot that motherfucker. Now, that can be argued. That if you have a guy that's, you know, if you're a guy that weighs the same as, I don't know, pick a fighter,

and then a fighter of the same stature who is documented as being a fighter tries to beat this guy up and he pulls a weapon and kills him, he has a legit defense. That don't mean he's going to win. But here's the one thing. He has a legit defense. That don't mean he's going to win. But here's the one thing. If you're talking about multiple odds, disparity of force is almost every state that I've looked at is a legitimate cause for the use of escalation to deadly force.

So that means if three or four people come at you, even if they don't have guns and you do have a gun, you don't have to take an ass whooping. You don't have to let four people kick your fucking head in just because they don't have a gun or a weapon. Disparity of force should be one person if you're not a violent person. It can be. Look, if someone who knows how to fight wants to kick your ass, you don't know how to fight, you're a dead man. You're going to get knocked unconscious, and the guy's going to stomp you to death while you're on the ground.

And that's the thing. And in most states, that's the reason why, is because once you get knocked out, you're dead. Yeah. If a guy wants to kill you. Or you're on Worldstar Hip Hop. Right. And they go, Worldstar. There's a great video.

Unfortunately, it's not available for free. But it's a mindset video that I think a lot of people should watch. It's by a guy named Paul Howe. Paul Howe is a Delta Force operator who was on the ground for Mogadishu for the Black Hawk Down scenario. And he made a video, and he's a law enforcement trainer now mainly. He also does civilian classes. But he has a class about mindset and what the minds and his mindset video is this, is that, and I think it's really important in this

day and age is because in this day and age, kids, men, women, everyone is taught. If you're, if you're encountered with force or if you're encountered with an, you know, aggression, If you're encountered with force or if you're encountered with aggression, you give up. Retreat. If somebody tries to mug you, give them your wallet. If somebody tries to break into your house, cower. And he proves through some videos, he shows examples but he's trying his point is this is that if you're met with a situation like this and it's so rare in people like you and i our lives but that makes it even more important is because if it ever does happen you must be prepared yeah and his point is this

is like if you give up if you don't, you forfeit all your rights to life. And then he shows some videos, which I'm seeing, I'm sure you've seen most of them. You know, the videos of the guys in Mexico getting their fucking heads chopped off, you know. And he shows videos of the Columbine massacre where they're walking through, you know, the cafeteria and people are cowering under the tables. What else are they going to do? That's an arguable situation. There's not much a guy could do. But the point is this.

They're still helpless. You can do nothing. If you don't fight, the only thing you can hope for is that they don't kill you. They kill somebody else. And that mindset of never give up, you know, if you're going to die, die a good death. I think there's a point of view from a lot of people that they don't have violent tendencies and they're intimidated by violent tendencies. There's a point of view where they want to eliminate

all the strength in the world. They want to take away all the benefits of being armed. There's a bunch of people that discourage martial arts. I've actually had that argument. I had that argument with my family when I started doing martial arts because I was kind of a fucked up kid. And, uh, my, uh, my father was really worried that I was going to become a much more efficient, dangerous person. Right. You know, that I was a kind of a sketchy kid. And then now I've become a sketchy kid who knows how to dismantle people. Right. And it was a real

issue. Um, like with me when i was uh 14 years old and i think that there's a lot of people that are not inclined to physicality not inclined to violence not inclined to aggression that would like to silence those things and other people instead of deal with the inevitable reality that those things exist and whenever someone tells me you know they start talking about like you know uh you know if this guy said that, I would beat his ass. You know, there's a certain amount of that that I'll tolerate until I get to a certain point. Like, do you really know what you would do? Do you really know what you would do?

Have you ever been in a violent confrontation? Do you know how to fight? Do you know how to fight when it's important? Do you know how to fight if someone said, are you ready? Are you ready? Go. Would you be able to keep your shit together? Right.

Most likely not. If you've never kept your shit together before, if you never had that experience and whether or not you've proven your, your, your strength of character, I'm going to be honest with you. You're going to shit your pants. You're going to piss your pants. You're going to shit your pants. You're going to fall apart. As soon as the guy gets ahold of you, you're going to be breathing so hard. You're not going to be able to control your heart rate. You're not going to be able to do it. You just, unless you've really thought about this, this is not some sort of easily manageable situation. Real violence is incredibly scary.

Fuck yes. Incredibly scary. And if you don't address that as a reality of life, of life that existed from fucking four billion years ago when the first shitty little single-celled organism crawled out of the ocean to what happens today in in 2013 in los angeles there's there's a reality to biological life that you're a fucking part of and just by painting this utopian picture of reality doesn't make the dangerous aspects of reality go away right and you're a want to control nature it's like it's an idealistic sort of a point of view

this utopian view of the world where no one's violent. You know how the best achieve that? Strength uniformly across the board. And that's a hard thing for people to describe, for people to swallow. But the most safe environments I've ever been in, when I've been around trained killers, the least amount of street fights that I've ever been at

were at the UFC. When I'm at the UFC and I'm backstage, I've seen one or two scuffles ever amongst the biggest, most insane killers the planet has ever known when it comes to hand-to-hand combat. I've seen a few arguments. I've seen two huge slap dudes. Over hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and thousands of fights even.

Well, when you get egos, I mean, your ego is... Your ego is... Yeah, but even guys who do that, their ego is checked. Yes. Because they know that as good as they are, at some point, they got clipped or, you know, even that, it's one of those things to where it goes back to... There's a... Jeff Cooper is what's...

Colonel Jeff Cooper Is considered the father of the modern Pistol technique Now hear me out Most of the things, it sounds kind of silly or gay No it doesn't at all Talking about pistols Hear me out, martial arts are martial arts

Oh yeah, I agree They really are, whether you're fighting with your hands Swords, guns Swords, guns, knives really are. Whether you're fighting with your hands or your fists. Swords, guns. Swords, guns, knives. It really is. You're talking about fighting. And the difference is when you're talking about fighting with guns and knives,

the difference is there's a force vector there. And there's a great James Edwards. I can't think of his name. But he made a great point, and that's this. If you and I are fighting, I can block your punch. I can take a block. Or if I miss and you hit me, chances are maybe I can take a punch. Maybe you might not knock me out if you hit me with a punch.

But when you start talking about fighting with weapons, from steel up into bullets, those are force vectors. Now, if we're fighting with knives or we're fighting even with sticks and I swing, this is a force vector. OK, this this plane is a force vector. If you're in that plane and I have a knife, you're fucked. Bodies cannot take that. If you throw your arm up, even if I've got a knife this long, I will cut through both your bones. I will cut your fucking hand off.

Yeah. Now, if we're talking about guns, you're even more fucked. Yeah. So it's force vectors, and it's a different way of looking at fighting. You know, when you're talking about hand-to-hand martial arts, you can take a hit. You can block. You can use that block to parry. You can use that block to pull into an attack.

But when you start talking about fighting with weapons, the only way you can survive is to not be there. Yeah. Not get hit. Right. Not get cut. Exactly. And so it's just, it's that whole thing of the mindset of being able to accept you're in a fight, accept the conditions you're in and deal with it. And the people who can do that generally are because they understand the fact that they're not fucking invincible. Nobody's a badass. Everybody can get hit, knocked out, shot, stabbed, whatever, no matter what your level of training. So when you talk about being backstage with a bunch of guys who spend their lives understanding that no matter how good you are, no matter how good your ego is, you know, you have to keep that in check. Everybody gets checked early. Nobody starts

out the baddest motherfucker ever. You get a few guys like John Jones that come in with exceptional athleticism and they do really good right away. But even then, like you look at the Gustafson fight, even he meets a guy one day that hands him a handful. And that's also the training that a guy

goes through. It softens the ego. It changes the ego's impact on your consciousness. Where your ego will fucking lie to you if you don't get any tests. Right, yeah. If you don't get any real tests in life, your ego will have you all sorts of pumped up,

all sorts of confused about your abilities. I've had conversations with people that, you know, I'm going to fucking kick this fucking dude's ass. And, you know, you just want to stop time and pull them aside and say, do you understand what you're even saying? Because you don't really just kick a guy's ass. Because if you kick my ass, I'm coming back tomorrow with a bat. Right.

Okay? Or a gun. Yes. Or my friends. Right. And we're going to fuck you up. I'm not just taking an ass kicking from some piece of shit. And that's the difference between when you're talking about sport,

UFC, blah, blah, blah, this or that, some piece of shit. And that's the difference between when you're talking about sport, you know, UFC, blah, blah, blah, this or that, and on the street in real life is it's funny. I had a friend of mine who was a Marine and he was an auto worker. The guy had

done like six years in the Marines. He went to be an auto worker. And we were drinking a bar all the time. But he said something to me probably 10 or maybe 10 years ago. It's always stuck with me. He said, you know what? Nobody's a badass. It's just comes down to a question of will. You know what? Because if Brock Lesnar whipped my motherfucking ass, which he would every day, twice on Sunday. But if I had the will to do whatever the fuck that was required to do something evil to him, if I was willing to go to prison, if I was willing to give up my life, you know what? Something bad would happen to him. Right. If you stay alive. Yes, exactly. If I lived if i survived now and but here's the point the point is it goes back to will most people

most normal human being people you know don't think like that but here's but here if you look at every fucked up story in this country when it it comes to, oh, my God, this guy did something terrible. Or, oh, my God, look at how fucked up this is. You know what it comes down to? It comes down to somebody saying, I don't give a fuck. Well, somebody recognizing what the situation actually is and then acting. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, like.

Not panicking. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, like, every gangster, like, criminal motherfucker who's got 40 bodies on him, you know, I mean, if you've watched, what's the movie down in Miami? Cocaine Cowboys. And two. Yeah. Well, two was pretty fucking amazing. What are you talking about? Griselda's still alive after all that shit? Well, she got smoked in Columbia in 2012.

Yeah, 2012. But the bitch got out of jail before she got killed. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, she, no. She was, she got out of that. I disrespect Griselda. Fuck Griselda.

That crazy bitch. She's a fucking, oh. Oh, Griselda Blanco. I'll tell you, but the guy that I was impressed by was the other dude, the hitman. The hitman?

Her guy. In prison? Yeah, and it was, his thing was, you know what? He's not a tough guy. Yeah. He's a fucking killer.

Yeah. He's not trying to fight you. Right. He'll wait for you to go home, fall asleep in your bed, and he'll come to your house and he'll kill everyone in your fucking house. Well, you know another example of the distorted perception of people's invulnerability is the Iceman. Kukulinski? Yeah, that guy, I'm still kind of curious how much of his shit was real.

Really? Think he bullshitted a lot? I think he had a lot of bullshitter in him. That was at least my, that was the feeling I got by his interviews. Let's Google Iceman bullshit. Ice, and we hope we don't get any Chuck Liddell. But no, I mean, watching his interviews, that was a feeling I got. I got the feeling he was a braggart.

Really? Yeah. Interesting. Nothing on the first page. That's fair. Iceman is full of bullshit. Let's try. It's full of bullshit.

Richard Klinsky. He's 100% full of shit. Oh, that's the wrong Iceman. Nice. That's that guy from The Gay Guy who got fat. He's 100% full of shit. Oh, that's the wrong ice band. That's that guy from the gay guy who got fat. He's not gay. I'll tell you what, though, man. You got to admit, I mean, he had some legit roles.

Okay, this is one of the guys saying. Hard to beat Tombstone. He's saying Kuklinski is dangerous and has killed, but not to the extent that he claimed. He did not murder Galante, Castello, or DeMeo. He claimed to have worked with DeMeo, but apparently it's bullshit. I don't know. Apparently he exaggerated some things.

Well, he's probably a fucking crazy guy. I mean, he was a murderer for sure. I mean, absolutely, I don't deny that. But I do get the feeling, and I think that happens a lot. don't deny that but i i do get the feeling that and i think that happens a lot um there's some if you go to the fbi i think it's fbi.gov on youtube channel it's like youtube slash fbi whatever they have a series of interviews with this asshole who's a serial killer right and uh he he they caught him in alaska i think but he he killed over 10 or 15 years, like eight or nine people, something like that. He ended up killing himself, hanging himself in a jail cell.

But they put on YouTube, the FBI did, the fucking interviews with him sitting in the thing. Two things that are crazy is, one, is they're sitting here and they're talking this guy and they're explaining to him why these other police departments are being assholes about jurisdiction and this and that and why they're holding up certain things it sounds like he's buying a house and the fucking realtors trying to explain to him you know why it's taking longer because they haven't got their clearances but anyway this dude is, it kind of looks like him. Not being an asshole. But he's thin, kind of long hair, good-looking cat.

Someone's game. No, I'm just telling you. There he is. Is that him? Yes. Wow, that does look like you, Jamie. Right, told you, dog. Is that what you used to do?

2012, Jamie wasn't working for me in June of 2012. Were you in Alaska, bro? Did you hang yourself in jail? I may have been in Ohio. I watched some. But here's what's so freaky about this motherfucker. He didn't know his victims, didn't stalk them. He had a murder kit hidden in a – he was on the West Coast.

hidden in a he was on the west coast he had property from when he was a kid or something like that in new york that his family left him or whatever he stashed a murder kit in new york and the murder kit had like uh tape uh fucking gloves uh rope all this other kind of shit he was living on the west coast the whole fucking time. He flew back to New York, and evidently he had seen or seen some kind of house or whatever, but he flies back to New York, kills two people, man and wife, disposes of their body, just mysteriously, and then flies back. They didn't catch him until like 10 or 15 years later.

So he did this several times? Yes. So his M.O. was that he would pick someone? He did not know. He would just pick random. His victims had nothing in common. How'd they catch him? I think a chick got away from him. Yeah, at Alaska. Well, there was one guy

I don't know if it's the same guy in Alaska that would fly women out. He would tell them he was going to fly them, pay like prostitutes, fly them out to a place where they're going to get their freak on. And then he would tell them, like, listen, you have one hour. And in one hour, I'm going to come find you, and I'm going to shoot you and kill you. Stop it. Yeah.

So good luck. Take care. You got one hour. Ready to go. Or whatever it was. Holy shit. Whatever the amount of time was. And he. You got one hour. Ready to go. Or whatever it was. Holy shit. Whatever the amount of time was. And he would go hunting for women.

And he killed several. Yeah. I'll pull that up. Would he kill the ones that he was like, or just like random ones? Or would he kill the ones like he was after? Oh, the ones he was after. He would bring them up there. If somebody said that to me, I would be like, where's the nearest fucking police station?

Because you won't get me out of there. His name is Robert Hanson. And he's an American serial killer. He was born in 1939. Robert Hanson. And he killed between 17 and 21 women near Anchorage, Alaska. He was convicted in 1983 and is currently serving 461 years in Spring Creek Correctional Center. He's alive?

In Seward, Alaska. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In 1983, 17-year-old Cindy Paulson escaped from him while he was trying to load her into his Piper Super Club, which is apparently a type of jet that lands. And he was loading her into this airplane, and she escaped. And she told police that she had been offered $200 to perform oral sex.

But when she got into the car. $200 in Alaska in like 1980? It's like eight beavers. See, he pulled a gun on her and drove her to his hometown of Muldoon. And there he took her captive, torturing, raping, and sexually assaulting her. He mentioned that. She mentioned that after he chained her by the neck to a post in the house's basement. He took a nap on a nearby couch, and when he awoke, he put her in his car and took her to the Merrill Field Airport,

where he told her that he intended to take her out to his cabin, which was a meat shack on the Nick River area of Matanuska Valley, accessible only by boat or bush plane. That's the gangster move, right? Because they can't get out. They can't go anywhere. And crouched in the back seat of the car with her wrists cuffed behind her body. She waited until Hansen was busy loading the airplane's cockpit to make a run for it. And while Hansen's back was turned, she crawled out of the back seat,

opened up the driver's side door, and took off running near 6th Avenue, nearby 6th Avenue. She told police that she had left her blue sneakers on the passenger side floor of the sedan's back seat as evidence that she had been in the car. So they pulled them over and they found it. They found her, you know, they pulled over the truck and found her sneakers and knew that she was telling the truth. You know what's fucked up? If you go back and you look, I mean,

there's a ton of stories like that, man. I've never heard of that one. And I generally, I mean, I'm not like a serial killer freak or anything, but I mean, I pay attention to like certain things. But I've never heard that story. And I guarantee if you look back, you could probably find a hundred more like it. Different things, maybe not that many people, but three or four, one or two, whatever. But it goes back to my opinion that, you know what? There are fucking monsters out there, bro.

Yeah. Well, this guy was a hunting champion. I mean, there are fucking people out there. They're legit monsters. This guy was a monster. He was a monster. He loved to kill things. He was a hunting champion.

He had established several documented records in the pope and young book of world hunting records so this guy was like he was a legit hunter but it was not exciting enough to him so he had decided that you know what he was into hunting women yeah he's it's a scary scary scary thing and you look at the motherfucker his name is robert h. Google it on Wiki. That's crazy because Robert Hanson is the same guy who was a spy for the FBI. Was he? Yeah. Robert Hanson was a spy for, I want to say FBI, counterterrorist.

Same dude? No. No, Google Robert Hanson, FBI. That's not the same guy. Robert Hanson, I'm That's not the same guy. Robert Hanson, that's the, I'm sure that's the FBI guy. Robert Hanson on Wikipedia. H-A-N-S-E-N. That's him.

What the fuck? Killed 21 women. At least. At least 21 women. Well, if they clipped him for 21, you know it's more. Yeah. Between 17 and 21 is the number that they're, but that's true, but then sometimes it's not Well, sometimes it's not like Henry Lee Lucas.

Yeah, right, because they do the shit where they write off every unsolved on earth and chalk it up to them. Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer. Did you ever see that documentary? Not documentary. It was a docudrama. It was a movie. Yeah, I don't do docudramas. I hate that shit.

It was based on Henry Lee Lucas, who was this weird drifter that randomly killed people and confessed to a shitload of crimes. Who's the guy they never got? Was it the Green River Killer they never got? The Zodiac Killer. Zodiacs who they never got. They never got the Zodiac guy. Yeah. Yeah, they have a lot of different theories on who that guy was

from a mathematician to, you know, various high intellect people. That's some creepy shit. I mean, do you think the guy went to prison or do you think he's dead? I don't know. They don't quit, right? Most of them don't quit, but who knows what makes someone start, ready, go,

and who knows whether or not they can ready stop. You know, some people can stop drinking. Some people, they don't need Alcoholics Anonymous. Some people quit heroin. You know, I don't know. Maybe some people quit stop drinking. Some people, they don't need Alcoholics Anonymous. Some people quit heroin. You know, I don't know. Maybe some people quit serial killer. I've always wondered that if you were going to do, and it's been a fucking plot on a million television shows, but it's the idea that, okay, if you're going to off somebody for whatever reason, if you make them fourth in a series of six, all of a sudden now it's not an assassination. Right. It's a serial killing well

the other thing they say is that if it's random if you just pick random people who you just pull into a gas station you know all right go up hey can i get a pack of gum boom sure there's that where it's almost impossible to solve it's crazy like if you look at unsolved in certain cities like Chicago, D.C., other things, it's like 70% unsolved homicides. Because, dude, I tell you what, there's a phenomenal book you ought to read. Did you ever watch the movie? You've seen The Wire, the television show The Wire. I've only seen actually the first couple episodes. What?

I never kept watching it. I know. Oh, fuck. I fail culturally. Dude, I'm telling you. And I'm not saying that to be a Breaking Bad type. Are you a hipster? I'm not a Breaking Bad type prick.

Breaking Bad's amazing. No. I watched the first season. Fuck off. You didn't like it? The Wire's way better. I did. The Wire gives it the six.

Both of you can suck each dick because I think that Game of Thrones can conquer all of them. Why? How hard is it to write a series where everyone dies? It doesn't matter. How hard is that? Everyone dies. Dragons, prostitutes, pussy. Come back next season.

We'll give you new people to love so we can kill them. How about zombies? Do you like Walking Dead? Not so much. How dare you? Not so much. It's decent. Okay, here's your question on zombies, as long as you're doing zombies.

Loved the book World War Z. I thought it was fucking amazing. Loved that book. That's interesting. I thought it was kind of slow. Really? I got it out there. Yeah, I thought the book was kind of slow.

No shit. Yeah. What did you think about the movie? Well, Brad Pitt is a beautiful man, and he's got excellent symmetry. And his wife, I thought, was very tastefully chosen. I thought it was interesting that the violence was really sort of non-impactful. The coolest thing about the whole fucking movie literally was the rangers at the airplane. For you.

No. That was legit. You're into that shit. No, but the one... Where the dude was like, hey, look, fuck you. We're going to get you to the plane. Right. I hope it's worth it. Right. That's legit, dude. That is legit, as is the fucking pyramid of zombies. They tried to climb up the wall of Jerusalem.

That was fucking gay. How dare you? Gay is in what way? Have you ever read the book? It's not violent 28 days later zombies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that slow, shambling, never-ending onslaught. You mean World War Z, the book?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's different. That's what's so fucking terrifying and to me that was what made the book? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's different. That's what's so fucking terrifying, and that's what, to me, that was what made the book cool. I disagree. I prefer the 28 Days Later Sprinting Zombie. That's my kind of zombie. New age freak.

That fucking World War Z book slash Walking Dead. Listen, I'll fuck those zombies up. Those bitches are never catching me. But here's the thing. They never get tired. Yeah, that the thing. They never get tired. Yeah, that's true. They never give up. But you can figure out a way to get into a house and shut the door.

It doesn't matter. They never give up. And that's- Bolt that door down. That to me was a cool- And don't get me wrong. I think Max Brooks is a self-important prick. How dare you?

I'm just telling you. First of all, how dare you? You don't even know Max. I don't know Max, but I've watched a lot of interviews with him. Is he a dick? In my opinion. Whoa. I could be wrong.

He might be the nicest guy in the world. He might be tired of giving interviews. Could be. But, you know, he's Mel Brooks' son, so he was rich before he started. Also tired of people asking him about his dad being Mel Brooks and how much of an impact that have on his career. That might be fine. But, hey, if the checks roll good, I'll be nice to you. Do you know who Joe Hill is?

No. He's Stephen King's son, but he changed his name to Joe Hill so he didn't ride on the coattails of Stephen King. Smart man. He's an amazing author. Great author. Really, really good stuff. And by the way, same genre as Stephen King.

Really? Horror movies, horror books. Great, great, great stuff. That's cool. I didn't know that. Yeah. He's really interesting. One of my favorite authors

And he's Stephen King's son It's incredible But he's Joe Hill Yeah You know, and I think Well, he's got his own following there Smart move Yeah

You know, when you're Max Brooks Brooks Mel Brooks? Sure Mel Brooks' son? You're Mel Brooks' son? Look at you You've grown up so much

I've known you since you were a little boy Oh my goodness mel brooks son is here honey come here but like come in every interview i've seen with that dude like i'm a big book tv freak you know c-span all that bullshit i watch all that stuff 28 days later zombies and rule yes especially when you look at the production of that that movie how they did that 28 days later it's sick they run they gave them like fucking they did that? 28 Days Later. It's sick. They run. They gave them like fucking they made that movie with like $88 and a fucking credit card. Yeah, they

just shut down London for a day and they got their major shot and that was it. Yeah, that's it. Everything else was filmed on an iPhone. Those fucking guys are gangster. I think 28 Days Later zombies are the scariest. The ones that run. Rage virus? Absolutely. They run. They're freaky, but at the same time,

like, I read a book by Steven Pressfield. I can't think of that guy's name, but he makes an interesting argument that if you look at zombies like locusts, imagine millions of them. Think about

this. Now, if you have a life form that I can't believe we're getting this deep into fucking zombies. We're deep in zombies. But think about it. Okay, New York City, perfect example. Seven million people in New York City, right? Now, they all turn to zombies. They don't die.

So they got to go somewhere, and they're going to search out food. The one instinct they have is go to food. Where are you going to go? You're going to go north, you're going to go south. If they're going to search out food. The one instinct they have is go to food. Where are you going to go? You're going to go north. You're going to go south if you can get off the fucking island. So anyway, so now you come south. Say they come south. Now they come through all the east coast, Philadelphia, Virginia, all the bullshit.

They come around the Alleghenies. Where are they going to go? They're going to go west. Now as they come, they keep picking people up. Perfect example is you look at the locusts, the great locust plagues. You know, do the locusts starve to death? No, because they go to the next fucking field. They keep going.

So now imagine this. Yes, you can be the biggest badass in the world with all the fucking weapons you want, but now you're overran with millions of something, no matter what it is. Imagine it was millions of rats. Fuck zombies. But, I mean, millions of anything. no matter what it is. Imagine it was millions of rats. Fuck zombies. But, I mean, millions of anything. You're fucked. Fuck, bro.

It's scary. Scary. That was the cool part about Max Brooks' book, is that he got that across. He got across that feeling of humanity. Even if you win, you almost lose. Because you can kill them, but every time you lose a person, it's a win for the enemy. Right. It's not the fact that you lost one. It's the fact that you lost one and they gained one. Right. So you do that times a hundred thousand that's a two hundred thousand it's like gambling that's a two hundred thousand swing you know you're down a hundred they're up a hundred right

right right so but but that idea of that relentless never-ending just constant you know to me that is a different feeling in that fiction world of of course, than the whole rage zombie thing. Yeah, the rage thing is scarier on film because it's like motherfuckers flipping out at you from nowhere. But it's that shambling, never-ending, you know, okay, you want to kill 5,000 of us? Okay. Eventually, your rifle barrel is going to wear out before we do. Kill as many as you want. I feel like the outlaw Josie Wells with a Gatling gun from 1865.

Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, bro. Out of the back of a wagon. The barrels wouldn't melt, bro. The barrels wouldn't melt. Or you would just go inside and take a day off. Speaking of which, if that's not one of the best movies ever in the history of life, I'm going to send these boys on a Missouri boat ride.

Joey Diaz has probably seen that movie 300 times. Joey Diaz will call me up. Have you ever seen the movie Jeremiah Johnson? Yes. I love that movie. It's a great movie. I just turned our buddy. I love that movie. It's a great movie. I just turned our buddy Austin on to that movie.

There's something about the movies from that era that were so amazing. That was my point going back. That was so amazing. That was my original point. The goddamn man shit.

Look at the movies we're talking about. Jeremiah Johnson, Butch Cassidy, and the Sundance Kid. Fuck yeah. I mean, fucking Smokey and the Bandit,

son. Smokey and the Bandit is very manly. But when Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kinder are about to jump off that cliff, they're like, can you swim? No, it doesn't matter. The fall is going to probably kill you anyway. Kill you anyway.

Just fucking jump, bitch. And the end of that motherfucker, that's probably the coolest end of any movie. Other than Flashdance. I'm not a Flashdance guy, bro. But I remember Butch and Sundance when they go out of that showgirl. How about other than showgirls? The only thing I remember about showgirls is when she got the guy off through his pants. Hmm.

Interesting. I remember this. Are you crazy? The fall will probably kill you. How fucking gangster is that? Redford and Newman in their fucking prime. Oh, shit! Wow.

Dude, that's got nothing on Jeremiah Johnson. I just watched it. And there's a sequence in Jeremiah Johnson where it's Robert Redford in the fucking Rockies in Utah before he bought the Sundance Park City thing. And the way that movie got made was the director, what's his name? Sidney Pollack, I think. Sidney Pollack put up his fucking house to borrow the money to make the movie because they ran out of money because the locations were so expensive.

It's a great story, but what if he found a rich guy and sucked his dick for the money? It wouldn't be as good a story. Could be possible. You know what I'm saying? People make sacrifices, and don't think it works. And people respect certain sacrifices. But you're like, Cindy Pollock found this rich guy and sucked his dick and got $100 million. Well, it would depend on how good the movie is.

Depend on how good his dick-scotting skills are. Think about it. No, think about it. It would depend on how good the movie is. What if his dick-scotting skills are terrible? If he made Jeremiah Johnson, I would be like, hey, fuck it. I respect that. Right.

I respect the commitment. If he made, I don't know. Ishtar? I would be like, hey, fuck it. I respect that. Right. I respect the commitment. If he made, I don't know. Ishtar? I would be like, he's a fool. I'd be like, I hope that load was weak. I hope it was a very, like the third load of the day. To where it was just like dust. It was just a confusing taste.

To where it was like, you know, it didn't even go from hard to soft. It was just kind of, eh. Yeah. You know. Just halfway there. Yeah. It was like You know it didn't even It didn't even go from Hard to soft It was just kind of Yeah You know Just halfway there Yeah it was like a Fucking cookie loaf There was nothing violent

Or passionate about it Nah just like Ah fuck Oh look at that picture The producer's like God damn it Another one Frozen dudes are scary

Yeah Hatchet Jack That's Hatchet Jack The scariest shit to me Is when they Show those photographs Of guys who tried to Climb Everest and failed.

And they find their bodies face down. Like the first guy that ever climbed Everest is still there. There's motherfuckers on Everest been there forever. And will be there. The first guy to climb Mount Everest is there. They will be there. Yeah. That was actually one of my little fucking, what was I saying?

What's the word I'm looking for? God damn it. The examples of manhood? No. Niche. Like a niche. It's a niche or niche? Subculture, god damn it. Subculture, which is the Himalayan

over 8,000 meter climbers. These guys are frozen into the ground. They leave them up there. There's hundreds of them. Yeah, but the fucked up thing about Everest is that it's basically, it's like Disneyland. It's a fucking tourist park.

You could go climb Everest next year if you wanted to. I mean, you pay a guy 15 grand, you roll up there, they give you your shit, and if you make it, you make it, and if not, fuck it, they send you back down to keep your money. The freaky shit is fucking K2. That's worse?

K2 is like the killerest mountain in the world. There's an article from 2012 where they're trying to reclaim the dead from Everest. This is pretty interesting. If you read Ed Viesters, V-I-E-S-T-U-R-S, Ed Viesters, there's like seven or eight guys who have climbed every mountain over 8,000 meters. There's 14 of them. Fourteen mountains in the world that are higher than 14,000 meters. There's seven or eight guys who've climbed them all.

Ed Viesters is an American. He's climbed them all without oxygen. He's climbed them free. He's a fucking gangster. He's from Seattle area. Shadow area? Seattle. Oh, I thought you said West Coast.

Shadow area. West Coast. I was like, is this more Soldier of Fortune type talk? West Coast. Seattle. But. Do you know why? Because when you live in Seattle and it rains all the time, you're willing to risk your life for shit.

I think it was Rainier. But he's got an interesting. Yeah, right there. That's him. What's crazy is he talks about. I've got. I've read that book. That's a great book.

But what he talks about is like there was a couple of climbs he was on where he turned back. And he got, like the first time I think he was on Everest. It was Everest or K2. He was like 600 or 700 meters from the top and he turned around. And he said, you know, because, you know, if you don't come down alive, it doesn't count. Right. And that's part of, that's what gets a lot of guys killed. Right.

They just need to pull it off. Exactly. They get within that thousand meters, and a lot of guys will set turnaround times to where they have, like, it's a drop dead time. If you're not on the summit by two o'clock, if you're one fucking foot from it, you come back. Because you have to build in time for shit to go wrong. Right. And if you don't, you die. A lot of guys die.

How many guys have jerked off on the top of Everest? I want to be the first. You think anybody ever has? I don't know. I'd like to be number uno. 15 grand, you could give it a shot. That's all? Yeah. What do I get out of it? You think anybody ever has? I don't know. I'd like to be numero uno. $15,000, you could give it a shot. That's all? Yeah.

What do I get out of it? You think how much? Think you could take a phone? Shooting right into the lens? But then what would you jack off to? You'd be like, you have to have two phones. What are all those bodies? That's the line of people.

Waiting to go up? Yes. Oh, that's ridiculous. It's a passe now. It is, exactly. That's insane. It is. The thing we're looking at is like a line at Disneyland. It is like a line at Disneyland. But K2 is different in the fact that there's been three, I mean, there's been a lot of years when no one summits K2. There are 200, between 200 and 233 bodies up on Everest. Google K2.

See how many people summited K2 this year. I'm fascinated by goals like that and the goals of climbing all the mountains, all the over 30,000 mountain range. I'm absolutely fascinated by goals, like these big lofty goals that only a few people have ever achieved. Sure. One of them is, do you know what the Super Slam is? The Super Slam is for big game hunters.

Lion, elephant. Everything in North America, all the big game animals. Oh, it's North America. Okay. The North American game animals, the Super Slam is- So it's a sheep. Brown bear, black bear, grizzly bear, polar bear. Brown bear, Alaska brown bear.

Yeah. Brown bear and grizzly bear are the bear. Brown bear, Alaska polar bear? Yeah. Brown bear and grizzly bear are the same thing. Same thing, right? Same thing. So this might have been established. It might be that they're treating the brown bear different than the grizzly bear. Canada, I guess? Yes, Canada.

Okay. The North America brown bear and grizzly bear, according to Steve Rinella, the difference is the grizzly is inland and the brown bear's on the coast. And brown bears actually grow larger, much too popular or much too what most people don't understand. Are grizzlies meaner? They're all mean as fuck. Brown bears in general? Brown bears just get more protein.

They're getting salmon on a regular basis. Is that why they're bigger than black bears? Salmon, caribou, moose, they get everything. The massive amounts of salmon they get is fucking tremendous. Grizzly, polar bear. And then with cats, it's a cougar. And they might even add jaguar. You know, there is a real issue with jaguars.

No, North America. Get the fuck out of here. Jaguars are entering through Mexico into North America. Goddamn illegal fucking cats, bro. Not only are they illegal cats, they're traveling the same roads that drug dealers are traveling. Jesus Christ. You know what?

They're probably fucking strapping cocaine to these Jaguars. Right in their assholes. Right in their assholes. Imagine how much you would pay for the cocaine that came out of a Jaguar of an asshole. It would be worth so much more than regular cocaine. Yeah, man. This cocaine came from a drug mall.

Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. Stop. This cocaine came out of a jaguar's asshole. Oh, his asshole. This is the jaguar. It's caught on a trail cam. Fuck it. All right.

You got duct tape on his asshole. 200 a gram. 200 a gram. That's some real shit. They're starting to find them in especially New Mexico and Arizona. They're starting to find jaguars that have made their way from Mexico. Big fucking cats. 200 plus pounds. Giant. I didn't think jaguars that have made their way from Mexico. Big fucking cats, 200 plus pounds.

I didn't think jaguars got that big. I thought jaguars were like house, like bobcats and shit. No, no, no, no, no. Jaguars are enormous. They're much bigger than mountain lions. 50 pounds. What? A mountain lion's a fucking cougar, bro.

Yeah, jaguars are bigger. Cougars are larger. Jaguars are shit. If I could have any pet on earth and not have it kill me, it would be a cougar. Apparently, pound for pound, jaguars are the most powerful cats. Really? Yeah, they're really fucking dangerous. They're like drag shit up in trees, right?

They kill it and then drag it up in the tree. They eat crocodiles. Get out of here. Do you ever see a jaguar go after a crocodile? No. Pull up jaguar. Jaguar's black, right? It's like a panther, right?

No, no. They sometimes are black, but most of the time they are blonde with black spots, but sometimes the spots cover their entire body and they become black. It's just a genetic predisposition or a genetic choice. Just like some dogs are black, some dogs are white. Yeah, that's how it is. And the black ones are the fucking scariest shit ever in the jungle of the Amazon. They're called panthers, right?

They are the same thing. Is that what a Florida panther is? A panther is a puma is a mountain lion. A jaguar is a larger cat. So it's a different fucking animal. Yeah, they're spotted. They're spotted, but the black ones, look at this motherfucker. Get out of here.

That's jaguar. That's not bigger than a cougar, bro. That's a 200-pound cat, my friend. That's not a cougar. America's much bigger than that. No, incorrect. That's a 200-pound jaguar, and that jaguar

is going to kill a fucking crocodile. If he snatches up this fucking crocodile, I'll kick your ass. And he bites it with one punch. One punch to the back of the head. These motherfuckers hunt everything that lives. Everything. Anything that walks on the ground, occasionally, this jaguar eats.

Eats everything in the Amazon. Look at this motherfucker making a run for this thing. Making a run for a crocodile. What does a crocodile do? Panics. Well, yeah. I mean, what the fuck would you do? You know what would happen if you ran at a crocodile?

The crocodile would open its mouth and eat you. Thank you. Dinner. The crocodile sees this jaguar. It's like, oh, fuck this shit, bitch. Look at this jaguar. He's like, oh, fuck this shit, bitch. Look at this jaguar. He's just dragging it out of the fucking lake. He's eating a crocodile, man.

Do you understand the significance of this? That's a crocodile he killed with his face. He doesn't even fucking live in the water. Could you imagine how strong you'd have to be to carry something that weighs as much as you do out of the water? Look at the look on his face. Look how he's biting this thing. He's biting it in the jaw. I'm tired of your shit.

He's biting it through its jaw. I'm tired of your shit. I haven't eaten since Wednesday. Yeah, and they also have the ability to pull those things apart with their face. Look at the eyes on that motherfucker. Cats have the most murderous, evil, soulless eyes. Cats are legit murderers, man. They're killers.

Stone killers. And it's in the water. Even house cats. Yeah. I have a sweetie, sweetie cat that I've had for 16 years. Yeah. She just killed a bird the other day. She just killed a million birds you don't know about.

She just killed one the other day right in front of me. It's got a fucking shrine underneath the couch. Look at this. It's a bird made out of bird feathers. Look at how this thing is biting into the skull. On top of his head. Right through the skull. Right through the eyes.

Carrying it around. There's a whole series of jaguars killing crocodiles. How the fuck does he get them from the bottom? Just rips them apart slowly but surely. It's dead already. Now it's a matter of just opening it up. The jaguar is so strong with his jaws. Speaking of stone killers, have you got any more hunting this year?

What's the word? I'm going next month. Yeah? Yeah, we're going to Wisconsin. Going to go shoot some deer. Yeah. Holla. And then when I come back in late winter, I'm going to go shoot a buffalo in Texas.

Woo-woo. Buffalo. They just stand there. We ought to go shoot hogs, bro. That's a meat run. I got a guy in Texas who's got a ranch. Let's do it. Seriously.

You tell me when. No, yeah. Let's do it. I can hook it up. Okay. Let's do it. Seriously. You tell me when. No, yeah. Let's do it. I can hook it up. Okay. It's done. I mean, it's a nuisance game down there, so it's just a matter of going down and smoking my...

We've talked about it many times. One of my favorite shows is Pig Man. Pig Man is a show on the Sportsman's Channel, and him and Ted Nugent shot hogs out of a helicopter. That would be a heat. One time they killed 250 in a day. The next time it was more than 400. How many?

250? More than 400 in the last one. You want to know what's funny? Aporkalypse now. Part do. I was talking to my buddy. It's a guy who knows a guy down in Texas. He's like, yeah, man, we've been talking about it forever.

We're going to take like 50 pounds of Tannerite. What's Tannerite? It sounds bad. You know what Tannerite is? Show them what Tannerite is. Google Tannerite. Check sounds bad. You know what Tannerite is? Show them what Tannerite is. Google Tannerite. Check this out. Jesus Christ.

So this is the, what we were talking about, this is the finish, the super slam. These are the animals. Alaskan brown bear, black bear, grizzly bear, polar bear, cougar, Columbia black-tailed deer. That's like $100,000 worth of hunts. More than that. Coos deer, mule deer, sika deer, white-tailed deer, Rocky Mountain elk, Roosevelt elk. Oh, my God. Stop.

True elk. Way more. Barren ground caribou, Central Canadian barren ground caribou, mountain caribou, Quebec Labrador caribou, woodland caribou, Alaskan Yukon moose, Canadian moose, Shiraz moose. You've got to kill 80 caribou to get this shit? Bison. Musk ox. A musk ox is a North American game animal.

Stop it. Now I've heard everything. American mountain goat. Pronghorn antelope. It's obvious outfitters are making this list. California big sheep. Doll sheep. Desert bighorn sheep.

Rocky mountain bighorn sheep. Stone sheep. Atlantic walrus. These are the auxiliary animals. Auxiliary. Auxiliary. Jaguar is in there. And Pacific walrus. That's all of them. No. Who the fuck is in there and Pacific walrus.

That's all of them. No, who the fuck is going to shoot a walrus? Here's where I draw a line. Anybody that's got a gun who needs to shoot a walrus. Here's where I draw a line, man. I dig hunting. That's fine. I'm not a hunter because I don't have the patience for it, but I respect it. I understand that hunters

pay for their whole... Hunters are the whole fucking reason most of this shit. What is this? Tannerite. Yes. Tannerite. Tons in a tree. Jesus Christ.

Tannerite. This is like. It's in a Bacardi bottle. Hillbilly Express. Okay. And so I'm assuming it's an explosive. Yes, it is. Okay.

So this guy backs way up. Yes. And detonates it. Tannerite is a binary explosive. To where you put these two things together and then it's detonated. It has to be, the only way it can be set off is by, see? It's completely fucking legal. You can buy it in the mail.

Really? It's a binary explosive. And the fact that the only way it can be set, you can set fire to it. You can set electricity to it. You can fucking jump up and down on it. The only way it will get set off is if it's penetrated by a round going almost 3,000 feet per second. So you have to hit it with a rifle round. Hmm.

And that will set it off. But otherwise, it's completely. Absolutely. Is it legal just because people don't know about it? Like there was a psychedelic drug. Kind of. Yeah, sort of. There was the most powerful psychedelic drug ever that was legal for the longest time.

Really? They missed it in a sweeping psychedelic act of 19-20. Is that like some shit out of a human pituitary gland from a fucking male baby with one eye? Similar, but no. It's called 5-methoxydimethyltryptamine. 5-methoxydimethyltryptamine. 5-MEO-dimethyltryptamine. So you got like a big stash of that pre-band shit somewhere?

If you want to meet Odin, I can bring you to Odin's chambers if you truly want to meet him. Are you still doing that tank shit? Oh, yeah. I got one in my basement. Yeah? Yeah. Want to try it? Fuck no.

That'd scare the shit out of me. Don't be scared, homie.com. No, I'm telling you, bro. No, the tank's not scary. The tank is easy to fade. It's great on your body. It feels good. It's relaxing.

You're into this whole fucking self, you know. I know better. You know better? You don't want to dig deep? I have no desire to get up in that fucking mess. Well, the tank thing for me is a big part of, like, every day. It's a big part of life. No shit.

Big part of thinking. Yeah, the tank is where I sort it all out. How often do you use it? Well, it's in my basement. Well, I've got a lot of shit in my fucking, within arm's reach. The last time I used it was two days ago. It was great. How long do you use it for a few

hours i like to go in for that long yeah that time the time have you ever freaked out have you ever been like fuck this fuck how do i get out no no no every freak out that i've ever had has been a good one i've learned from them every freak out that i've ever had i'm like well what was bothering me what was the free why was i freaking out yeah what was the freak out about what weakness was you know was exposed by that freakout? What imbalance? What thing that I don't like about myself? I mean, were you able to do that in the tank?

Yeah, yeah. So you got a little carried away and then you backed off or what? It's all about breathing and perspective. It's all about keeping your breathing under control. Don't let panic breath. The big thing about psychedelic trips that happen with a lot of people, whether they're naturally occurring psychedelic trips like a tank, meditation,

or drugs, the big thing is you trying to control what's happening. And when you try to control what's happening, it's just you can't control it, bitch. Good luck. It's like going down a river, you know, like some crazy fucking... What is that?

Airplane. Is that an airplane? Vacuum. Why are they so loud? What are they vacuuming with? Industrial shit. I think it's an airplane with a vacuum on it. NSA, bro.

If you're going down a river and, you know, your body's flailing and flailing around, and you try to, like, control it, you can't control it. You know, if you're bouncing off rocks and shit and you're completely out of control in the control it, you can't control it. If you're bouncing off rocks and shit and you're completely out of control in the white waters, you can't control it. The difference between that and a psychedelic trip is that the psychedelic trip is actually not going to kill you. Whereas the out of control feeling that you have in a river, it's inevitable. You may get lucky and grab a branch on the way down but you may also go off

the waterfall and die sure the difference between that and the psychedelic experiences there's nothing to worry about in the psychedelic experience but it's just as much out of your control so you have to be able to let go and it's very very very very very hard for people to do because you have to let go of all your perceptions about who you are how you interface with the world what your environment means to you the the the the the the the circle of friends i mean you know all this shit going in though right i learned all this shit yeah going in and i still don't know so what would i could i could freak out what would happen if you just stuck someone in there like you stuck someone in there It depends entirely on who that person is. Like if they weren't prepared.

If they just. It's like. If you fucking threw a hood on them. Yeah. If you just threw a fucking hood on them. Snatched them off the street. And they woke up in the tank. The tank is.

Well that would be weird. That'd be like torture wouldn't it? Well no. It wouldn't be torture. Because you would move around. You would feel the water. You. It's not like your body doesn't move.

The beautiful thing about the tank. Is. Basically you got your own Guantanamo Bay in your basement. No. No. No. feel the water. It's not like your body doesn't move. The beautiful thing about the tank is... Basically, you've got your own Guantanamo Bay in your basement. No, no, no. That's way nicer than that. There's no music blaring. There's no fucking crazy assholes trying to fucking get you to talk about your time as a student in Pakistan.

There's none of that. Did you watch Zero Dark Thirty? Yes. Yeah, I know you didn't like it because you're up on what really happened. You're fucked up by the suspension of disbelief. No, but I got to tell you, it was the dude who was doing the questioning was freaky. He was scary. He was scary. Because he was so calm.

Yeah, well, that's really how those guys get. They get very clinical. It was like, look, you lied and I'm going to hurt you. really like how those guys get. They get very clinical. It was like, look, you lied and I'm going to hurt you. Yeah. And then with the fucking, something else I heard that I had never heard before was they were sticking them, my thing, dude, bugs.

Bugs, even worse, fucking spiders. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'll fight you. Okay, fine. But you put a fucking big ass spider right here, I'll scream like a bitch. There's some scary ass spiders. Or I'll scream like a bitch there's some or i'll flip it or i'll flip this fucking table over trying to kill it one or the other but fucking spiders oh i hate spiders but that was one of the things i guess they played on the phobias of motherfuckers

was they would stick them in these fucking boxes filled with all kinds of bugs and fear factor yeah exactly exactly that was one of the reasons why I never watched Fear Factor. Seriously. The bugs and the spiders and the bullshit. And I always thought, you know, like eating, you know, donkey balls and all that bullshit. I was like, I never could understand it because it's like, what did they win, 50 grand? If they win. You have to make it to the finals.

Right. That's sweet. I looked back then. And then they play fucking taxes on it. So they make, what, 30? 34. Yeah, 34,000. Oh, fuck you. But some people did it.

That's not even fair, bro. Some people did it and they did it. That's not even fair. Let me tell you something. I guess I'm watching that. Let me tell you something. I ate one of those for free. Stop it.

Yeah, me and Michael Yeo, there was a TV show. It was one of those. What was that? Something like that. Well, Michael Yeo was one of the African cave dwelling spider. And me and Michael, we were doing a promo for the new series of Fear Factor when it came back. And we both ate them. It was nothing.

I ate it. It was nothing. It was just chewy. It was nothing. Believe me. If you gave me the option between that and a ton of other shit that I've done in my life, I would take that all day. I'd eat that right in front of you right now.

It's nothing. It's psychological. It is psychological. And that's what's crazy. It's just like. It's all psychological. Yeah, totally. I agree.

I don't give a fuck though. Well, that's like the tank. What's scary about the idea of the tank is only psychological. There's no tigers in there. There's no jaguars in there. To me, the tank doesn't's scary about the idea of the tank is only psychological. There's no tigers in there. There's no jaguars in there. To me, the tank doesn't seem like it would freak me the fuck out. Well, you just said it would. No, no.

I was saying it could. Like, if you took somebody and threw them in. No, personally, me, no, I don't think it would. It's great. You would love it. Personally, I don't think it would. I mean, for one thing, it's like I like being by myself. No, don't get me wrong.

But I mean, I like, like, I spend a lot of time reading. Yeah. I'm not one of those people that, you know, if I don't have social interaction every hour, I flip the fuck out. This is me and Michael Yeo. We're eating these cave dwelling spiders. Who the fuck is Michael Yeo? He's like an entertainment journalist. And he was actually on Fear Factor way back in the day, like episode one first shows i just pick it up pick it up dip it in some blue cheese that's

the thing i got so used to like people eating bugs and i got i ate a bunch of shit i ate a fucking you ever just on the set and you were like just saw a roach and you were like no no like an asian girl just pick it up i'm not stupid they had catering they had really good there's no need to do it but it wasn't that it was something i wanted to do but it's easy to do it's really not that big a deal so i give it to him i'm holding on to two i hand him one and he had the hardest time grabbing it man he was i don't know if he was playing it up for the camera but he really seemed to have a heart. Very, very nice guy. But you know what?

The thing is, though, I was so desensitized. I was so used to it. Yeah, this doesn't even interest me. Ah, Jesus. Yeah. I'm telling him, do it. Can those spiders bite? Get the fuck out of here.

What is this nonsense? Who the fuck's filming this on a camera phone? I don't know. Someone on the phone. I told him if we lived in caveman times, this would be... Now that's being... I'm going to say that's... I hope...

I would hope I'm not that big of a bitch. I would hope I would reach out, crush your hand, kill the spider, and walk away. It's nothing. You would just take it. You would just take it. I wouldn't eat it. You'd have to be minimal. He's freaking out.

We'd have to be talking new car money. Nah, I'd do it for free. Well, that's because you're crazy. No, I'm not. Look at you. Evidently, you didn't enjoy it. I'm I do it for free. Well, that's because you're crazy. No, I'm not. Look at you. Evidently, you didn't enjoy it. I'm just eating it. That's him.

He's freaking out. Oh, that's him. I'm sorry. He's freaking out. I'm over there chewing on his shit. Meanwhile, Joe's over there like popcorn, like half some more. My bad. Yeah, I'm like, eh.

But no, for me to do some shit like that, we're talking minimum 30 Gs. He had a Diet Coke waiting on standby. Minimum 30,000 to eat a fucking spider. It's nothing. It's not even worth a hundred bucks. Yeah's nothing. It's not even worth $100. It's so easy to do. That's what I'm saying. I mean, my price is my price.

But I'm just saying that it's all based on personal experience. Sure, absolutely. If you ever had someone choke you, choke you almost unconscious, we have to tap out. No. That's way worse. I believe that.

I have that happen all the time. I've done that to people, but it never happened to me. A bug ain't shit, you know? Yeah. I'm a booger. A young gal give you enthusiastic but yet horrible blowjob? Yes.

There you go. That's no fun. It's way better to eat a bug. No, I disagree. Check out these kangaroos. Blowjobs are like pizza, you know? There's bad pizza, but- I need to get someone to suck your dick that really has malice in their mind.

Malice. Check out these kangaroos beating the fuck out of each other. This is a video that someone sent me. Apparently, this ends with a rear naked choke. By a kangaroo? Yeah. People have been sending it to me all day on Twitter. So out of respect, I got to throw it up there.

But sweat how these fucking things fight. They go back on their tail. They use their tail to hold themselves up. While they kick. So they kick with their back legs. And they fucking duke it out for like 10 minutes, man. Do they take round breaks? No, they just keep fucking each other up.

Look at that. That's like a fucking 120-pound rat. Yeah. Well, they get really big, apparently. Apparently, it's two different types of kangaroos. I think there's a gray kangaroo and a red kangaroo. Our buddy, Eddie Ift, spends a lot of time, and Arj Barker spends a lot of time as well, in Australia.

And some of them are really big, like six feet plus. Well, there's another, I guess donkeys in Australia are feral, like pigs are here. I guess they have a lot of trouble with, at least they did at one time, with donkeys and kangaroos. Wow. So there's a guy, his name's J.D. Jones. This is a gun thing, but he's known for a handgun hunter.

He's one of the bigger handgun hunters. He made a bunch of custom calibers and all kinds of shit. But anyway, he used to organize what's called Australian varmint hunt. Look at this fucking scramble. And these guys would go down darce look at this this one kangaroo who's on top keeps winning go guard pull guard pull guard bro one of the bottoms a bitch but oh shit he's got there's a hook he's got the hooks he's got the choke no hooks he's going marcelo garcia style concentrate entirely side side joke well mar Marcelo concentrates entirely on the choke. Stop it.

He doesn't even worry about the hooks. He's like, dude, I watched my UFC shit last night. This is incredible. This is incredible. This is a battle. Stop. This is crazy, right? He's got a good grip.

It looks like he's got a gable grip. Wow, he put him to sleep. He just tapped him. Fuck you. He like he's got a gable grip. Wow, he put him to sleep. He just tapped him. Fuck you. He just tapped him. He let him go. And he's just like hovering with his balls over that kangaroo's face.

Wake up and go buy me a Starbucks. That kangaroo is asleep. He choked that motherfucker to sleep. Wake up. He might have choked him to death. Wake up and watch me fuck your wife. Let's see if he wakes up. He doesn't have a wife. They didn't get married.

Kangaroos, whatever. The kangaroo's on the bottom licking his balls. See that? He looked up and he saw his balls. Kangaroos still pass the fuck out. Look. We're on the left. Well, he's just laying there.

He's submissive. And this one's walking away nice and slowly. On his tail. He's hurt. That tail is legit. Yeah. Well, I think they duked it out for a long part for a long uh period of time before he eventually got the rear naked choke so the big ones um that are the red kangaroos

and the the red kangaroos is the largest of all kangaroos the largest mammal to live in australia and the largest extant marsupial it is in mainland Australia, avoiding only the more fertile areas in the south, the east coast, and the northern rainforests. They're like, fuck you. We don't want your water. We don't want your fertility. The biggest they get, head to body length, is 5.2 feet. And then the tail and the legs and all that jazz. Who would win?

Four chimpanzees or a kangaroo? One chimp would kill everything. One chimp? Yeah, they're ruthless. Chimps are so goddamn strong. I mean, I'm sure kangaroos are strong too, but I'm sure a chimp would just fucking grab its neck and tear its shit apart. Rip its belly open?

Chimps can do shit with their bodies where they grab a branch and then launch themselves into the air and fly and catch something and hang on. That kind of strength is really hard for us to even wrap our fucking stupid heads around. Right. You know, how many chin-ups can you think you can do? Me? Yeah. I probably couldn't do one for a million dollars.

A guy who's a really good chin-up guy. Gangster, 50. Yeah, 50 is just the craziest motherfucker. That would be like, I gotta believe, like, that or there's like some, you know, ripped up CrossFit chick somewhere who does it every day before breakfast. What a good kid.

World record chin-ups. Let's find out. I'm guessing, I'm guessing it's 75. Am I the only one that thinks CrossFit's a cult? It is a cult. You're not the only one. It is. And there's good things and bad things about cults.

All right. World record list. What is the world record? What is that, a raccoon? Oh, shit. Okay. What the fuck is that? Yeah, it's a raccoon.

Okay. Here's the... Look at it. They're circling this motherfucker. You're dead. World records. He's punching it. Fuck it. They're circling this motherfucker. You're dead. World Records. He's punching it. Fuck you.

Fuck you. Take that jab. Is that a champ beating up a raccoon? Yeah. That's not even a big champ. Take that jab. Look at that. I saw you fuck on my car last night.

What happened? That raccoon got into the zoo? Yeah. Oh, look. That's a mistake. Dude, and coons are tough, man. Raccoons are tough. Champs are fucking ruthless. Not like... Oh, he's throwing throat. Oh, shit. Yeah's a mistake. Dude, and coons are tough, man. Raccoons are tough. Chimps are fucking ruthless.

Not like, I mean, oh, he's throwing, throw it. Oh, shit. They're ruthless. They threw it off the top of a cliff. Fuck you. Let me throw you off this mountain. Yeah, they're ruthless. All right, here's the, they have most chin-ups in a minute.

Okay. Here's the world records for chin-ups. The most, the record holder is a guy from the czech republic of course you ready for this you're gonna freak out 232 pull-ups in 36 minutes that's insane in 2010 in the czech republic jesus fucking christ have you ever seen he's doing kipping pull-ups but whatever have you ever seen the bartender doing kipping pull-ups, but whatever. Have you ever seen the bartender shit? The guys who do the bar workouts?

Yeah, I have seen that. It's always black guys. Look at the fucking... Look at the chin-ups this motherfucker's doing. That's not a chin-up, though. This is insane. Kipping chin-ups. That's not a chin-up.

Pull-ups. What is it? Pull-up? Chin-up is when your palms are facing forward. None of those count. Jesus Christ. Those are insane. None of those count. This guy is still going. None of those count. Jesus Christ. Those are insane. None of those count.

This guy is still going. None of those count. Look, he doesn't even barely break his elbows. Well, this is called- His fucking head barely touches the bar. No, his chin goes to the bar. You're crazy. These are kipping chin-ups or kipping pull-ups.

I guess it's a pull-up. Which one's a chin-up and which one's a pull-up? Pull-up is like this, right? Pull-ups is your palms forward. Chin-ups is your palms outward. Is that right? Is that it? One or the other

What's the difference? Wikipedia son. What's the difference the difference? I'm gonna guess chin ups are probably the curl motion right? Chin ups and pull ups. And pull ups are probably palms out Okay, we're gonna find out really quickly. I don't know because I do all of them. Oh, look at this shit. I do all of them because I'm sexy as fuck. I would love to be able to do this. That's insane.

Just be fucking fat and be able to do that. Just to see the look on people's faces. I would win millions. He's doing sideways chin-ups on a bar where his body is sticking out like a flag. He's rushing. That's insane. Okay, pull-ups means a pronated overhand grip. So pull-ups is palms out.

Chin-ups is palms, which is a supinated or underhanded grip. That's crazy. I've never seen that before. That's very interesting. What, this guy's going to do 62 in a minute? He's 50. He's 50? How dare he?

Who's this fucking animal? He don't have low T. His wife doesn't want to fuck him. That's all that is. He's trying to attract a better mate. He's got a string of 19-year-olds. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Those are legit.

Eight, nine. Yeah, those are wide grip. Ten, 11, 12. Okay, we can keep counting, and the people at home listening on iTunes are like, 47. Are you going to count to 100, you fuckhead? You're not even describing what's happening? We went from 50 to 63.

Skip them. It is pretty amazing. 63. That's incredible. Who's the guy? What's the story? He did it in a minute. I don't know.

He likes pussy. Can't get any. World record. Just say who it is. Does it say? Stan. Stan Apsikoff. Spell it.

Apsiloff. A-P-S-E-L-O-F-F. In Columbus, Ohio. I guarantee you he has. Ohio? That just goes to show you, man. Ohio. Ohio is legit.

Yeah. Ohio is like the Philippines of the United States. Is it really? In what way? And pool. That was nasty. That was always nasty thing. Said Ohio is the Philippines of the United States.

If they're from Ohio and they've got on a white t-shirt, they will gamble with you. What is it about the Midwest to have so many gangster pool players? Because there's nothing else to do. Seriously. You don't got to worry. What, are you going to surf? You know, are you going to play volleyball? I mean, fuck half the year is winter.

Good luck trying to get laid, son. Right, exactly. So you go to the pool room, you play pool. And there's, the Midwest is full of them. There's gangsters throughout Kansas City, Missouri, St. Louis, shit like that, fucking players. Why do they play bar table, though? Because that's all they got.

What's that about? That's a lot of it. Fix that. That's where the tournaments are. That's ridiculous. But you could take some of those guys. I could go down through that part of the Midwest and take some people and run them up through New York City and just rob the fucking Northeast. Really?

Yes. Which is scary. When I say rob, it would be hard because you can't sneak up on anyone anymore. Right. You can't outrun the internet. I mean, camera phones ruin the road. Isn't that interesting? Well, the websites, like AZ Billiards did it to a certain extent, too.

People started posting photos. But even before that, it's just, I guarantee, you could take me to a pool room here in LA today and there could be somebody in there and if it's a legitimate player, if I don't know who they are, I could take their picture, send it to two or three people, and probably tell you everything there is to know about that guy within 10 minutes.

And that's without going to the internet. That's just within that network and having the ability to take a photo and connect and tell them, here's what this guy looks like. This is a game he wants to play. What do you know about him? And, you know, it's just, it's, it's such a small world. Yeah. It would be like you showing like a fighter that you knew was like a legit fighter. Well, it's like when I, when I, uh, did when I did that celebrity pool thing for Bravo,

and they were like, hey, we're going to put together a celebrity tournament, and we'll see who can beat who out of the world of celebrities. Like, good luck. You're all playing for second place. Sure, absolutely. I'm like, I know you're all playing for second place. And they were laughing at me like, how do you think you're going to win? I'm like, I'm going to win.

I'm like, not only are you going to win, it's going to be easy. I'm going to show up high. I'm going to be high as fuck. I'm going to be eating two pot cookies. I'm like, there's no way they put in the time, the effort that I put in. There's very few celebrities. If they were as fucked up as I am, I would know about them. I would know.

I would hear. The only people I've ever heard, Paul Sorvino, which I think he's dead now, Jerry Orbach. Orbach passed, right? Jerry Orbach, Paul Sorvino, did David Brennan, what's his name? David Brenner. Brenner. Was he a player or was he

just an investor? He's an investor. This is me running out like a fucking world champion right here, ladies and gentlemen. It's your place, right? With Max? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was me and Max Eberle when I was taking lessons. I took a lot of lessons from Max Eberle.

Powerful Max Eberle. Yeah, Max Eberle. That was back when he was vegan. I was responsible for getting him off that. Is he eating meat now? Yeah, he eats everything now. Beautiful. He started eating fish.

He started off with sushi. That's how it starts. Yeah. That's how we all start. But Max changed my fundamentals. And people think that pool is like a stupid game, and it is kind of a stupid game. So why? I'm going to tell you.

They're all stupid. If you're not a player, I mean, if you're not a – and I tell people this. It's like I do it for a living, man. I mean, that's what I sell for a living is pool. But if you're not into it, if you don't understand it, you know, it's like me trying to watch golf. I don't play golf. There's a video of you and me playing. Yes.

You ran the fuck out. That's right. You ran out. Yeah, there's a, yeah, I think it's just. The best video is you doing the arrow, though. With me laughing like a fucking retard over top of you. I was nervous when I met him that he was going to be mad at me, but he wasn't mad at me at all. He was...

That was crazy. He was having fun. I mean, Earl's... God, I love him. Well, he knew that I was a fan. Dude, Moscone Cup is in Vegas this year. When is it? Can you make it?

When is it? It's the first weekend in December. Let me see right now. Hold on a second. It starts Monday. Are you broadcasting? No. Well, actually, I can't spill any beans yet.

We'll talk after this is over. Yeah, we're trying to do something before Moscone starts. I'm hoping that week, man. Maybe we should do something. Moscone Cup starts Monday. That would be fun. Yeah. I would like to be there for that.

I think that would be fun. It's fun. If you've never been to one, they are a blast. We could do something, man. Because it's like big money production. Yeah. It's like the only legit, real television production in pool. We could do something with pool, man.

Pool needs something. It needs something right now. It needs a little juice. Yeah. Oh, no shit. If you and I got behind something, we could do something right now. We needs a little juice. Yeah. Oh, no shit. If you and I got behind something, we could do something right now. We can make something fun. I think the only thing that has any shot to get mainstream acceptance of pool-

Naked girls. Is that or some kind of reality show or just a character study to where you pick the most fucked up, follow Earl around for six months. I would watch that. Yeah. Well, Earl is, like you said earlier, seven miles in the morning, seven miles in the afternoon, 14 miles a day. He's a maniac.

He'd probably stab you in the eye eight times before the filming was over. Nah, he would never stab me. Me and Earl would get along fine. Actually, what would be awesome was if you could do something to where, like, you and Earl went on the road. Yeah. Oh, my God. Me and Earl, when we were hanging out together, talking,

even though I'd made fun of him, I know he got bummed out that I made fun of him, but I only made fun of him, like do an impression, because I'm a huge fan. Right. How could you do that impression if you didn't know him? Yeah. So he knew that when I started talking to him that I wasn't an asshole. And then I really said, you're one of my favorite players of all time. That's 100% legit.

He and I wouldn't have a problem. He would be crazy, but I'm pretty easy, man. You know, I know crazy. If someone was like, if like you, a guy like you, all of a sudden became crazy, I'd be bummed out. I'd be like, damn, what the fuck happened to Justin? This is sad. But if it's just a crazy dude being crazy, that's like asking water to not be wet. You know, it's like water is wet.

It is what it is. Oh, here it is. People quote this to me all the time, everywhere I go. It might be my greatest impression of all time, and it's super obscure. Because most people don't know Earl Strickland. People don't understand. So you just did something? Get the fuck out. I jump with a Mucci. I jump full table with a Mucci. People don't understand. This is one of the most obscure references ever.

After this, you have to Google Earl Strickland rant and show what Earl really sounds like. When the marijuana, I said a lot of my plans involves marijuana. Earl got all paranoid. How does he know I do marijuana? He even said that. How does he know? He was saying marijuana. Did you tell him I smoke marijuana? Were you guys I do marijuana? He even said that. How's he know? He was saying marijuana. Did you tell him I smoke marijuana?

Were you guys talking about marijuana? Is it commonly known? Earl smokes all the weed. Well, Max Eberle told me, and Rob Saez told me of their adventures together. Yeah. Look, a guy who's that good at pool, why would he not fuck with marijuana? Marijuana makes, people who don't know, I know you don't like to fuck with it, it makes you very sensitive to movement. But the thing is, that's probably the only thing he can do to keep his mind in this fucking

atmosphere. Yeah. You know? There's a little bit of that. I mean, he's, Earl is, people. He's a genius. He's a genius. You cannot.

He's a pool genius. You can't take it away from him. He's a pool genius, and like many people that are genius at something, as we said before, that genius comes out of a bit of madness. Look at him. He's all pissed off. Well, the Moscone Cup is really interesting because it's like the U.K. or Europe versus the United States.

Oh, this is that Steve. And Earl blows up. Oh, look at her. She's pretty. Yeah, she is. She's cool. And Earl gets crazy. He's fucking hot. Blocks out everybody.

He also puts weird shit on. Look at the eyes. Look at the eyes. They're all laughing. He's so serious. He's like a cartoon character. He's so serious. He's like a cartoon character. He's amazing. He takes that shit, man.

He's like a cartoon character. But, I mean, he's serious about it. Yeah. It's like that's one of the things I was talking to Jason Shaw about when he came down for our last match. You know, he said it amazed him. He stayed with Earl. And he goes, Earl woke up in the morning talking about pool. And when he went to sleep at night, he was still talking about pool.

Yeah. He's legit. You know, I mean, think about it. I mean, you don't, whenever we hang out, it's like, you don't talk about, yeah, you don't talk about UFC from the time we start to the time we end. You don't talk about comedy from the time we start to the time we end. You know, it's every, you hang out like a normal fucking person. Well, that's the thing about pool, though.

Pool requires that of you. Pool is like the craziest, neediest girlfriend in the history of the universe. At a high level, it's sick. The bitch wants to see you all day until you go to bed. And then when you wake up, where are you? I want you right here. Look at me. Wake up.

And pool might wake you up in the middle of the night with a new move. Pool might wake you up. You don't have to get out that way. You play it like this. Then you play for the fourth of the night with a new move. Pool might wake you up. You don't have to get out that way. You play it like this. Then you play for the fourth ball. You're playing for the third ball. If you play for the ankle on the fourth ball, then the – if the fifth ball is on the rail.

If the fifth ball is on the rail, it depends on whether or not I can use it. I've seen Earl do that after matches. He'll come in the next day. And set it up. Yeah, and talk about a shot that was in, like, the seventh game. And it's like, you know, it's like you don't even remember it. It was meaningless. It would be like a football player talking about a fucking play that got two yards in the second quarter with 20 minutes to go.

I mean, it's like something that means nothing. And he talks about it like it's a disastrous date that he just got home from. Right, yeah. I don't know man those guys and what's funny is most the best players in the world have played for us on our on our matches um you can't name a pool player that hasn't played for us that's not top of the world top 10 20 players in the world have all played in our matches at one time or another. And for the most part, the Americans are the craziest in general.

Like most mental about shit. The Filipinos are the most laid back. The Filipinos are the most laid back, which is funny because they play like the Filipinos literally, if they win $1,000 here, it's like five or six grand back home. It's a huge amount of money. And maybe that's why they are laid back is because whatever score they make here is bigger back home. Whereas here, if an American player wins three or four grand, if you tell any normal human being on earth that works for $15 or $20 an hour, you can make $3,000 in a weekend, they would be like,

fuck, that's good money. But for someone who is at the top of their game, yeah, it sucks. You would think they would make more. It sucks for a pro athlete in a sport. But at the same time, and this is one of the battles I'm fighting, is I tell people, like, look, man, if I could pay you guys $10,000, I would because it makes everybody better. But I can only pay you what people will pay you know because it's i eat what i kill i mean

the way i do it is i've there's no sponsors you know there's nobody here giving me five or ten thousand dollars to do a match it doesn't work like that it's manny pack yeah what i take in on fucking pay-per-view is what pays for all the freight dude that's the big pay-per-view me versus manny pack yeah that would be sick come on i think you'd be robbed i'd be robbed he would rob me yeah damn from what i understand i'll have to get in stroke i have to get crazy you just have to outbox him yeah well according to max eberly max eberly says he plays very good in fact max playing a race of 10 and he only beat him like i think he beat him six or seven to ten right which if you know how good max plays right max is motherfucking world class man he's got a great

reputation as a solid player yeah he said man he gets out and being from the philippines it's like he plays all those killers every day they call him the cow oh look at max with the long hair and the goat wow this is uh is Manny Pacquiao. For folks who are not listening or who are listening and not watching, rather, this is Manny Pacquiao shooting some kind of crazy trick shot, which I don't know how to do one single. Look at Manny Pacquiao's lefty, too.

That's interesting. That's worth a ball right there. Yeah, there's something about lefties, man. There's something about lefties. Look at that fucking shot. Damn. Oh, man. He made There's something about lefties. Look at that fucking shot. Damn. Oh, man. He made it.

He made all those balls. There's something about left-handed people. Yes. There's an accent. Athletically. It's a left-handedness. Athletically, I believe that. I've seen pitchers, quarterbacks.

It's crazy. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I think it's a nonconformity thing. I think that left-handed people have to figure things out for themselves, and it makes you smarter because everybody else is going one way. Everything else in the world is fucking opposite. And from striking, from a standpoint of striking,

a lot of people have a hard time with people that fight in the southpaw position which is right-hand forward instead of left. Isn't that a big thing in boxing, though, people who switch? The good guys. The greatest ever at switching was Marvin Hagler. Really? Marvelous Marvin Hagler was like he would fuck guys up because you expect him to come out southpaw and he would come out orthodox and just put a beating on you

because he could fight orthodox as good as he could fight southpaw. Is that very rare to have guys? Very rare. Very rare. Do you still think boxing is a viable sport or is it just so fucking corrupt and fucked up that it's wrestling? No, it's viable. It's viable because there's awesome guys that are excellent at it. A lot of people think that I don't like boxing because I got in an argument with some asshole on ESPN who was a boxing promoter.

And I shouldn't call him an asshole. He's just defending his turf. And the whole reason why we even had this thing is because ESPN was trying to set up this dispute between boxing and MMA, which one's better. And I was cool with it all until he was calling MMA like human cockfighting. They have this attitude that it's like some barbaric sport. And I'm like, look, you're being stupid. Like you don't understand. Like it was 15 years ago. Well, it's not only that. It's like boxing is a part of MMA.

It's a key aspect of MMA. If you don't have good boxing, you can't have MMA. It's like, but MMA, if you, like, you get a boxer who's a really good boxer, and that's all he trains is boxing, and he gets in there with a guy who's an MMA fighter, he's gonna get fucked up. He's gonna get his legs kicked.

He's gonna get kneed in the body in the clinch. He's gonna get taken down and mounted. He's gonna get smashed and strangled. He's going to get kneed in the body in the clinch. He's going to get taken down and mounted. He's going to get smashed and strangled. That's just a fact. It doesn't mean that boxing isn't exciting and that I don't like boxing. I would have never said what I said if that guy wasn't a dick. If that guy got on that ESPN interview with me and if he said that I think mixed martial arts is a very exciting sport for some folks, though they prefer just striking, I would have said absolutely. There's something for everybody. Some people prefer soccer.

Some guys like baseball. I'm a huge fan of striking. Striking is what I started out with. But boxing striking is even, like if I was going to watch any fight, legit straight striking fight, I want to watch Muay Thai. Have you seen Glory? Glory is debuting on Spike actually tomorrow. Tonight or tomorrow?

What's the 11th? I think it's tomorrow. Whatever the fuck it is. Glory is this new high-level kickboxing event where they're taking the best kickboxers in the world. Most of them are European because, like, in Holland, kickboxing got fucking gigantic. It's huge. And these great fighters came from Holland, kickboxing got fucking gigantic. It's huge.

And there's great fighters came from Holland like Ramon Deckers, Ernesto Hoost, Rob Kamen, like some of the greatest kickboxers of all time all came from Holland for some strange reason. And then there's also these great guys that fight in all sorts of – Romania has a lot of great fighters like Daniel Gita. There's a lot of great – and there's a lot of great American kickboxers that are coming up right now too. But when it comes to like pound for pound excitement, kickboxing is way more exciting than regular boxing to me. Sure.

Because there's leg kicks and knees and head kicks. There's a lot of craziness. Now you're talking about, because you were a traditional martial arts guy, so taekwondo you did that. When I first started.wondo when i first started yeah when you first started but um so now are those like tournaments those sports obsolete are they hurting for talent because everyone's going to mma yes money they well they also they're going the the big thing about martial arts when i was a kid when i was first starting out and i had

to choose a martial art it was always very difficult to figure out what was the best martial art. And you had to kind of decide for yourself. You had to watch people and decide for yourself. And it was really hard to quantify. It was really hard to figure out what was the best. Then the Ultimate Fighting Championship came along, and now there's no question. Now we know what you need in an all-out fight, in a mixed martial arts fight, where essentially there's a limited set of rules. We know what you need to learn how to do, and it's not taekwondo, and it's not muay thai, and it's not wrestling, and it's not jiu-jitsu.

It's all of them. And if you don't know how to do any of those aspects, if you're a really good wrestler, but the guy you're fighting knows how to defend the takedown, and he can fuck you up standing. You've got a real problem, and that's what a lot of wrestlers are dealing with today. They don't know how to strike, and they face a guy who develops like Mirko Krokop in Pride Days, had really good takedown defense. Can stuff a takedown and then smoke you. And then light you up with head kicks, and there's nothing you can do about it.

And you get hit by that shit, you're going night-night. So there's that. Then there's also these wrestlers that figure out jiu-jitsu. And you get hit by that shit, you're going night-night. So there's that. Then there's also these wrestlers that figure out jiu-jitsu. They can take you down and strangle you. You've got to be able to stuff that takedown. If you can't stuff that takedown, they're going to take you down every time. If you can stuff that takedown but they can't stand up,

you're going to fuck them up every time. There's a lot of variables and that's what we know now. We didn't know that when I was starting out. When I was starting out, no one knew what was the right way to do. Whether it was boxing, whether it was wrestling, whether it was taekwondo or karate or muay thai, no one knew. Do you think MMA guys are one of the second, third generation? I don't know how many generations. I don't know if there's a need to numerically order them,

but I would say that today we have a much better sense of what is ultimately effective in martial arts than we did even a year ago. Just in the last couple of years, we've seen an increase in the number of traditional martial arts techniques. Front kick to the face, and Anderson Silva landed on Vitor. The wheel kicks that have been landed, Vitor landed a wheel kick. Junior Dos Santos knocked out Mark Hunt with a wheel kick. Edson Barbosa knocked out Terry Adam. There's all these wheel kicks now that we haven't seen before. And those were always viable techniques in Taekwondo and in kickboxing, Kyokushin. But we haven't seen them in MMA because the guys who are really good at them didn't fight MMA. They fought Kyokushin. They fought Taekwondo. But now we're seeing these MMA guys realize, hey, this is a really tricky weapon that I can add to my arsenal. So the arsenal, instead of being 100 moves deep, is now 200 moves deep.

It's now 250 moves deep. There's a lot of new shit that people are learning how to do. There's old techniques that everybody thought didn't work. Like you're starting to see axe kicks again. Guys are throwing axe kicks. Yeah, Rich Clemente threw one the other day in Bellator. John Jones threw one in the UFC. But they're still not at the level of the axe kicks of a guy like Jersey Long,

who was a Canadian MMA champion who had this nasty axe kick. It was like getting hit in the head with a fucking baseball bat. This motherfucker would just full split swing up and slam that heel down in your face, and you would go to sleep. He knocked out a friend of mine out cold with an axe kick in a tournament that's insane jersey long and it was so nasty it was like getting hit by a sniper the way the way the dude and it made me change my whole axe kick game i i put way more credence into axe kicks i didn't think that axe kicks could knock guys unconscious i just thought

axe kick was like a flashy technique that you use, but I never saw anybody go to sleep to this guy named Jersey Long. It was like 1980, probably two or something like that. And he fought my friend and axe kicked him in the head and knocked him out cold. It was brutal. The way he did it too is so fast. We just not, we're not seeing that speed of execution, that fluidity of motion, that economy of movement that a guy who's a really high-level Taekwondo guy has in MMA. There's a guy named Herb Perez. I saw him knock out this dude. I think the dude's name was Nassim. I forget the guy's last name, but the guy was a high-level guy as well.

And Herb knocked him out with an axe kick to the head right in front of me. name but the guy was a high level guy as well and herb knocked him out with an axe kick to the head right in front of me i was like my first national tournament um i'd lost i lost my first fight and uh it was probably i was probably like 18 or 19 and i remember watching this guy herb perez knock this dude out with a fucking axe kick to the head like as far as away as you are i was standing on the sideline and i saw this heel land on this dude's head. And that was one of the main moments in my life where I realized, oh, shit, national champions can also get knocked the fuck out. Everybody can get knocked out.

If you miss something, you're beat. If you zig when you should have zagged and someone kicks you in your face, you're going to go to sleep. And that's a technique that we haven't seen yet really effectively in MMA. Andy Hoog used it in K-1. He used that. There's a few other guys. There's a couple of guys. I saw a Russian dude who throws a mean axe kick who's fighting in MMA

in a small organization. But we haven't seen it in the UFC yet. Wasn't Eddie going to do a fight with one of the Graces? Still is. Is that on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to do a grappling match, a rematch of the fight they had in 2003. What's the name of that series?

Because I watched some of it. Metamorris. Yeah, I watched some of that on YouTube. Metamorris is a huge, huge grappling organization. They're putting together this really – like they had Hickson's son, Kron, fought Shinya Aoki, who's a famous MMA fighter, a very good grappler from Japan. And Kron guillotined him, and that was a really exciting match.

And they've had some real high-level MMA fighters and Brazilian jiu-jitsu fighters and submission artists go after it. Is California one of the bigger communities for Brazilian jiu-jitsu? One of the biggest in the world. One of the biggest in the world. And there's so many Brazilian jiu-jitsu schools in Southern California. It's almost like beyond recognition or beyond comprehension. There's a massive amount.

There's so many high-level guys here. Hickson's here. Well, his son Kron is here now. Jean-Jacques Machado is like one of the all-time greats is here. Fabrizio Verdum is here. And there's a lot of great MMA fighters that also teach Jiu-Jitsu. Renato Babalusa-Brawl's here. There's a million Alberto great MMA fighters that also teach jiu-jitsu. Hanato Babalusa, Brawl's here. You know, there's a million.

Alberto Crane's here. It goes on and on and on. Hoyce Gracie's here. Henner Gracie's here. Huron Gracie's here. They all have their own schools? Yeah. Horian, you know, is here.

There's so many guys here. They just, they came from Brazil, and they're like, Brazil's a little kind of crazy. And there's a beach here, too.. Let's just stop here in Southern California. And then of course, when MMA started to explode, this was like the glamor market, you know, there's a lot of money here. There's a lot of people here. There's a lot of people who want to learn jujitsu. It's a good place to open up a school. But the biggest school in the country is apparently apparently hanzo gracie school in manhattan he has a giant school but people love that guy so much hanzo gracie is like one of the best personalities in mixed martial arts and jujitsu period just amazing amazing guy like a really a fun guy to be around

great sense of humor great ego great perspective and because of that he has like this fiercely loyal following and he's a huge huge fucking i could see that going completely crazy in a place like manhattan yeah yeah yeah he's got a giant studio i think he has hundreds of students in manhattan but manhattan is stupid expensive that's what i mean could you imagine what a studio costs there oh but but then again i mean all your students are probably fucking millionaires. So what's the difference? Well, I guess. Are there that many millionaires in Manhattan?

There's a fuckload of millionaires in Manhattan. But there are a lot of people in Manhattan also that are just like barely getting by. Credit card millionaires. Paying their rent, feeding themselves. Yeah, but I mean, Manhattan, that's one thing. Like, we were there. We were at Amsterdam. Yeah. You know, you got that's one thing. Like, we were there. We were at Amsterdam. Yeah.

You know, you got Amsterdam billiards, and that's probably one of my favorite pool rooms on earth. Me too. Because it's just legit. I mean, it's a beautiful place. It's ran well. They take care of it. Clean, organized. Clean, yeah.

Great people working there. Yeah, no bullshit. Nice waiters and waitresses. They're courteous to you. Yeah. But it's one of the few, you know, it's hard to explain, but, you know, you go in there and you don't have the feeling. A lot of pool rooms, especially in the Midwest, you walk in and you can almost taste the fucking desperation. Yeah.

You know what I'm talking about? You can almost taste the fucking desperation. You know what I'm talking about? I mean, it's just like the sign, the cigarette-covered sign on the wall that says, pull $2 for five hours. You know what I mean? It's just like, oh, Jesus. But to me, like a room in Amsterdam that caters to… Executive clientele.

Yes. Lead people. It's somebody... Like, if I had a date, I would take her to Amsterdam. Yeah. There's maybe two or three pool rooms in the country I would take a date to.

Yeah. I love hard times. Outside of that. But I wouldn't take a date to hard times. No. No. Sacramento or Bellflower. I mean, hard times... I to hard times. No, no, no. Sacramento or, uh, or Bellflower. I mean, hard times. I love hard times for the history. Yeah. I mean the history, if you know

what the, you know, that's gotta be like probably Yankee stadium, old Yankee stadium or Fenway park is to a baseball guy. And it's still there. If you go there on any Sunday. Yes. If you know the history of it, it's, it's, it's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can go in. And you can go there on any Sunday. Yes. If you know the history of it, it's cool. Yeah. I mean, you can go in there and you can look at that table and know that, you know, Cesar Morales probably played on that table in 1986 or whenever the fuck he came there, which that's the name for Efren Reyes. Efren Reyes is considered, in my opinion, the best player of all time.

He's still alive, still playing. considered, in my opinion, the best player of all time. He's still alive, still playing, and most humble, professional, nicest dude in the world who has done more things on a pool table than anyone else I think will probably ever do. He's the best. Well, what's amazing about a place like Hard Times is a guy like me could enter in a tournament and play. Like last time I played in a Hard Times tournament, I played Ernesto Dominguez. Ernesto Dominguez is a guy like me could enter in the tournament and play like last time i played in the hard time tournament i played ernesto dominguez right ernesto dominguez is a high

level pro southern california guy for 20 years been a great player for great great guy too and his son oscar dominguez also a high level pro you could play against professionals like a regular guy on the weekend that's a good thing and that's also a terrible thing, in my opinion. What's the terrible aspect of it? Because no one's going to pay to watch if they can go pay $10 and play with them. Is that true, though? Yes. I don't know if that's true.

I think the real issue with watching is there's not enough people participating. This is true. Yeah, I agree with that. I believe that pool is an art form. I think there's not enough people participating. This is true. Yeah, I agree with that. I believe that pool is an art form. I think there's an element of both. I think pool is an art form that the only people that can appreciate it are the people that can do it. Sure. But that's a lot of things, and that's kind

of where I've made my peace with the whole thing. There's a lot of people in the industry that seem to think that there's this magic bullet you can shoot at it, and mainstream approval will come and all of a sudden there'll be millions and millions of dollars flowing into the industry.

Right. I don't believe that because I can't think of anything else where that's ever happened. People always want to compare pool to poker, but it's completely not even the same thing. Well, the thing about poker is they came out with that fucking camera that allows you to see what the person's hand was. Yes.

So the person at home has an inside view, and they get to see the drama of choice. You feel like God because you know. You know. Nobody else knows. And you get to be smarter than the player. Yes, instantly. And here's the other thing about poker,

the player. Yes. Instantly. And here's the other thing about poker. And this is you know the reason there's so many if there was 5% the amount of dead money suckers in pool as there is in poker. We'd all

I mean I'd be driving a new car. Well the biggest suckers in pool are people who came over from poker who don't have any appreciation for money because they're used to gambling big money. But in poker, you've got a built-in reason for losing because you can make the dumbest, stupidest plays in the world and still feel okay because it wasn't your fault. You got sucked out on. How's that donkey call my bet? Yep.

I mean, if you listen to poker players talk, it's crazy. Yeah, it's maddening. No one else on earth can play poker except for that particular person. Well, sometimes you hear that from pool players that go, he got lucky. He ran from the seven to the eight. He bumps into the nine. If he didn't bump into the nine- You hear a lot of crying from pool players, but nothing like poker players. Right. You didn't bump into the night. You hear a lot of crying from pool players, but nothing like poker, boys.

Right. And the other thing is, the biggest thing with poker is, here's a perfect example. I will never, ever, no matter what I do, no matter how much effort I put into it, ever win the U.S. Open nine-ball championship. I could play 15 hours a day for the rest of my life. I'll never win it. 15 hours a day for the rest of my life, I'll never win it. It would be like me saying I'm going to win the heavyweight championship of the UFC.

It's fucking impossible. It's not going to happen. But you could win the World Series of Poker. Yes. Damn. I have a legitimate shot. Just snap down the top. No, I mean, I'm not saying a legitimate shot.

I'm saying it could happen. It's possible. It is possible. It's fucking impossible. You might as well say I could win the UFC lightweight championship. It's fucking impossible. My goal should be to win the Women's World Championship.

That's your television show. That's your television show. They would hate me though. They'd get mad at me. Joe Rogan takes on the world of women. Of women. Dot, dot, dot. Of women. In pool. Dot, dot dot dot no that's really rude no i i i eventually want to do something with pool some sort of a show figure out some sort you know what i would really like to see you do if for no other reason than just pure self-satisfaction

is some kind of really cool documentary yeah that would that would be fun. Because one reason, and it's not, and once again, man, I'm to the point, I'm just not a believer that pool is a crossover to mainstream. But it has. But I don't think it has to. But it has. Twice. Twice. And two times because of the media. Right.

Well, twice. Costler, color of mind. Right. But now, okay, I agree with you 100%. So look at those two instances. You had two Academy Award winning movies. Both those movies won Academy Awards. Pretty crazy.

Yes. So both of those movies. So basically, in order to get mainstream acceptance, you have to have an Academy Award winning movie. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Wrap your head around that one. But here's my point is the fact that, you know what, it doesn't take that to improve things for pool and everything else. I mean, if you just get, you know, 100,000 more people playing,

which sounds like a lot, but that's shit. That's 200 people in every state. Yeah, we just need an ambassador. I'll take the reins. You could do that. I'll handle this bitch. You could. Can't do it by taking on women, though.

That's just going to divide us. Piss people off. Yeah. Well, it's weird, too. Also, it's an interesting argument about the differences between men and women that besides the cultural aspect of pool being more acceptable for men to play there's actually a difference in the way men and women see 3d geometry the way the may the way men and women see uh spatial distance and their their their their their understanding of space it's

different it's really interesting because uh women can get fantastic at pool you know there's gene belucas who competed against men. And Jasmine Ocean plays basically like, you know, Allison Fisher plays basically men's speed. I don't understand why. I mean, if you look at it on paper, especially a game like straight pool. Right. Where it doesn't require the big break.

There is no reason on earth that I can think of. I mean, physically. Mentally, you can go into all that if you want to, but physically, there's no reason at all that a man should be better than a woman. That's true, but it also, it highlights the differences between the way men and women look at 3D space. We apparently have a different need. There's different requirements for survival that a man had developing to this point in 2013 from many, many thousands of years of evolution,

and women have. They've had a different need for fast-twitch muscle fiber, a different need for reaction time. It's one of the arguments against a male transvestite, a transsexual who used to be a male who became a woman- Fighting females. Fighting females is the reaction time.

There's a weird reaction time difference for men and women. It's really significant. It's about 10%. Oh, shit. Yeah. It's pretty much across the board. So, the difference between- And that's funny because in shooting, which you wouldn't think... I mean, there's really

no strength issue there. Right. But the women don't come close to the men. Yeah. Nor do they in pool. When was the last time a woman won a world championship in pool? The U.S. Open, any of those things. They don't win them.

They don't win them. And there's amazing, amazing, amazing women. But what they are is so incredibly exceptional that they stand out, but they still can't beat the best men. They still can't beat Shane. Right. They still can't beat Bustamante. No, there is a different – and that's one of the things I like about what I do

with the people I do it with is it's interesting and enjoyable to me to show the levels because they're – you know, like we've done matches to where guys play and you're sitting there and you're going, you know what? If this guy was playing Alex or Shane, he'd get beat 100 to 60.

Maybe. But at the same time, the guy's playing great. Guy's playing great. Run. You know, guy's playing great. Run out pool. You know, not making mistakes. But it's like he makes a bad decision here or he does something to get out of line there. And unless you really know what the hell is going on, it's hard to miss.

But, you know, when you see, I don't know, it goes back to that excellence thing I was talking about. I don't know, it goes back to that excellence thing I was talking about. But like one of the things that I'm really happy, you know, when what I do is said and done, whatever that is, 25 years from now, somewhere on YouTube, someone will be able to flip on one of these videos and watch and see. You know, people always talk about how good Keith McCready was on a bar table in 1984. You know what? Well, people will be able to see how good Shane was on a 9-foot 10-ball table in 2006 or 2008.

Or 13. Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah, that's an unfortunate aspect to some of the past players when they talk about it. There's some Irving Crane footage where you see him playing straight pool and you try to put it together. Moscone, there's a lot of footage of Moscone when he was really old, unfortunately. Those ABC Wild World of Sports events that they had. They used to play pool on ABC Wild World of Sports.

But there was four channels on television. Yeah, but it's even more impressive that Poole made it onto four channels. Well, because of the story. And I really think that if Poole has any shot at mainstream television, it is a reality show type television show. It's you and me, dude. We're the last of the Mohicans. You could absolutely, I think you could do something.

Yeah, you know think you could do something. Yeah. You know what I could do? I could play really high-level women in the Action Report match. You know what you could do? We could just make you into like the ultimate asshole. No. To where like you just – I mean we could just make you the bad guy. I don't want to do that though.

I'd be better the other way. If I was nice, I'd just play really good women. Kick their ass. Because I can't beat any men. You can't beat any really good women. None of them? I'm going to tell you five really good women that you've got no shot to beat. Give me a year.

Can't beat Allison. You can't beat Karen. You say that now. Can't beat Karen. Son, I get crazy for one year. Can't beat Guy Young. You can't beat Yachting. No comedy, no UFC. Just fucking nine ball.

And Jasmine. None of them? No. All right, bring somebody that can be. All the rest of them. All the rest of them? A lot of them. How much of a drop-off is there?

You know who I want to see you play? Who? Sarah Rousey. She's a really good player. She's a very good player. Okay, let's do it. Let's make it happen. I think Sarah would straight rob you.

Straight rob me? How dare you? Someone's got a crush. Straight rob you. Someone's do it. Let's make it happen. I think Sarah would straight rob you. Straight rob me? How dare you? Someone's got a crush. Straight rob you. Sarah's my buddy. Yeah, but if I start firing, man. We were in Nam together. I'd be surprised.

But no, Sarah, she hasn't played pool in like four years. Perfect. That's what I'm looking for. Really? Like duck. Listen, man, I have gears, and on my highest gear, I surprise myself. But on my lowest gear, I'm not very good at all. That's my real problem.

Remember one time you and I were in Vegas and we were playing Eric? Yeah. I couldn't miss a ball. I was just running out packages over and over and over again. But that's rare. And then I have to get into the groove

by playing like six, seven hours. I know exactly what the hell you're talking about. Yeah. What do you think causes that? You get loose. I know exactly what the hell you're talking about. Yeah. What do you think causes that? You get loose. You understand exactly. For me, it's a matter of pool is all. I mean, I understand how to stroke the ball correctly.

I understand how to stand correctly. I understand how to aim correctly. But unless I'm playing consistently and I have constant feedback loop between Q-tip hitting the Q-ball, Q-ball hitting the object ball, and it goes into my calculator of what's going to happen, I can fuck up and I can over juice shots and I can have too much English. It's a matter of a massive amount of information coming at me over a long period of time, six, seven hours of just playing pool, you know, us eating pizza and fucking drinking coffee and then right back to the table. And when I do that, then especially that homeboy's place where he has that intense pasta.

What's that fucking Best Billiards in Vegas? Best Billiards in Vegas. Amazing food that motherfucker has. I heard the kitchen closed down. Is that true? That's what I heard. I haven't been there since the last time we were there. How dare he close down that kitchen.

Yeah. But when you do that for a long period of time, then I, then I'm working with a massive amount of information. And when I'm working with a massive amount of information about touch and feel and movement and ball, I get a sense of what's going to happen and then I can get into it. And once I get into it, is it anything like jujitsu or anything like that for you? Very, very, very, very, very similar. It's all just a matter of feel and movement and knowing what the feedback loop is. Like if you've never punched somebody and then you punch someone, you're like, whoa, this is crazy. But then if you've used to punching people, it just comes out. It just feels normal when you're

hitting someone. And I think with pool balls, it's the same thing. The more you stroke that ball, the more you understand the movement. And the more it's in my head exactly how much effort I have to exert to get exactly the same results on the ball and have balls twist and turn and move. That's the big thing. And for me, also, I'm so busy that I don't get a chance to play that much. So when I do get

a chance, like when you and I are in Vegas with Eric and we get like seven, eight hours and we're playing in a 24-hour pool hall, I'm enthusiastic as fuck. So like five, six hours into we're playing in a 24-hour pool hall, I'm enthusiastic as fuck. So like five, six hours into this, I haven't lost any enthusiasm. Sure. I'm loving the shit out of this, but I'm also getting excited. And then I start seeing Eric fall apart.

And then I start getting very excited. And my predatory instinct kicks in. He's weak. You can feel him. I'm playing with his cue, the cue that he made. It's like you're getting your nuts shot in with your own cue, son. That's not good. That's right.

I see you over there getting wobbling, just wobbling in the back of the herd. I don't know, man. There's very few things in life that I've had as much of an attachment with where I really got a lot of satisfaction out of, like pool. So for me, it's just fun. And I'm not playing the person either. I'm just playing those balls. I'm just trying to do my best.

I'm trying to do my best of making my way around the table. So I'm not upset if someone wins. Sure. You know, when I was a young man, if I was playing a game, when I was an idiot, I would get upset if someone else won. And then I realized somewhere along the line, that doesn't help me in any way. And, in fact, it hurts me.

But it's also got nothing to do with you. Exactly. Especially with pool. Pool's one of the rare games where there's a famous match between Francisco Bustamante and Johnny Archer. They were playing a race to 10 for some incredible amount of money. Johnny Archer broke and ran 10 racks in a row on him, which is insanity. And then at the end, Francisco Bustamante wanted to double the bet and keep it going.

That's how crazy this fucking game is yeah that a guy can do that 10 games you don't even get a chance to shoot it's like the old joke about a guy he makes a game with a guy they're gonna gamble and uh the guy breaks and runs out the set the other guy never gets to play and he comes up to him he goes hey man you're gonna have to spot me something to spot I'm going to spot you something. I haven't seen you play yet. That's true, right? You know, so it's... Well, there's a thing about pool, and this is the big one. We'll end it up with this.

The thing about pool that separates us from video games, not necessarily video games, but really from poker, is execution. Exactly. Poker, you have to make a decision. Pool, you have to make a decision, and then you have to execute it. And you have to keep your nerves together. If you've ever played in a tournament or you've ever gambled, you know how hard it is to really shoot straight when your heart's pounding in your chest and a bunch of people are watching you. Yeah. a guy like Shane or a guy like Alex or Earl, when they're playing their very best against high-level competition

and then it's fucking surrounded by people who know how to play pool, real pool players. Like I could run out a rack and get out, and the average person is like, that's incredible. But someone like you is like, why did you go that way on the six? And you're like, I fucked up, man. I just got lucky. I bumped the eight and I got clear you will know that i fucked up you will know that i

got lucky and i got out still that happens all the time whereas a guy like earl did you fucking see that you see he only if he misses that five ball he doesn't even get out if he doesn't clip the five ball with his cue ball this is he's playing pool. He's playing wish pool. He wish you had a shot. There was a dude named Tom, Mount Vernon Tommy. Mount Vernon Tommy was like a top player back at Executive Billiards where I played in White Plains, New York. And he would get mad at people when they play wish pool. He's over here playing some old wish pool. Some old wish pool some old wish pool you wish you got position i learned a lot man hanging out in pool halls i learned a lot about i learned a lot about life yeah i really did there's some extreme human beings yeah it's and i'll tell you what it will uh

you know i've made my living in that world for the last since 2007 and probably one of the few guys outside of pool players that actually can make a good living in pool it's not good you gotta keep your place i i tell i tell people you know it's like i feel like from just the technical things i do i could go make more money doing other things but it's i'm pretty confident in it. But one of the things that – and I tell players this, and players have told me this, is that it really means a lot to be able to control your own destiny kind of. And that, you know, if I wake up in the morning and I want to go do X, Y, Z, I can do that with the knowledge that I also have to have this done by this time. It's like a lot of people who do their own freelance type of stuff. I mean, there's a lot of people out there who do that. But, you know, you give up security for freedom.

And once you make that, I mean, dude, you were a fucking stand-up comic for how many years? If anyone on earth understands that, it's you. Yeah. You know? I mean, before you got your break, what were you making a night? It wasn't very much. Right. But, I mean, it's –

And there's – but that's the thing, too, is, you know, if you want to go work a nine-to-five job, you'll have a little more security. Not much in this day and age. Pool is even more drastic than comedy because – Well, you can't go make money with comedy. At least you know if you go show up, you're probably going to get paid, even if you suck. With pool, you can go – and you have to pay to go in pool. Yeah. You have to pay for your hotel room.

You have to pay for your tournament entry. And if you don't perform, you don't get fucking paid. So pool is double tough. For players, it's very, very, very tough. Listen, man, after this podcast is over, it's basically over now. Let's wrap this bitch up. Let's figure something out, man. Let's you and me do something.

Let's do something. We'll do it on the internet. We'll do it somewhere. Let's make something happen. Let's wrap this bitch up. Let's figure something out, man. Let's you and me do something. Let's do something. We'll do it on the internet. We'll do it somewhere. Let's make something happen. See if we can. See if we can do something. Just get a little fun in it. Maybe it's me playing.

Maybe it's me. Maybe it's you and I going to Derby City and doing a documentary about Derby City. I would love to do that. I would love to do something like that. We'll do something. Yeah, for sure. All right, this podcast had no beginning. No end.

It has no end. There's no point. All right, this podcast had no beginning. No end. It has no end. It's no point, but that's life, ladies and gentlemen. If you want to get a hold of Justin, you can get a hold of him at The Action Report on Twitter. Theactionreport.com is the website where you can see the absolute very best players in the world duke it out in long races. And if you're a fan of pool, go check that out. And if you're not a fan of pool, play a little pool and then go check that out. Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. You'll understand

how amazing it is. Dude, this was a fun, epic podcast. I enjoyed it, man. Thank you very much for having me. Longest podcast I think we've ever done, ever. Jesus, that's impressive. That's it. We made a record today. Alright. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, that's it for this week. We'll be back next week.

We've got a lot of shit going on next week. Next week, I got Greg Proops, powerful Greg Proops, Stephen Pressfield. Yeah, that's right. Stephen Pressfield, the author? Yeah, that's right, the author. Dude, his shit is legit. Next Tuesday, rather, the 15th. Yeah, he's amazing.

So Greg Proops and Pressfield next week. Lots of good shit coming up, you fucks. And then the week after that, well, the week after the week after that, I got Sam Harris coming in. I got a lot of shit going on, you fuckers. And thanks for all the tweets that you guys send me. I am more informed because of you guys sending me tweets and sending me really interesting links

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I appreciate it very much. Next gig is next weekend, the 18th. I'm at the Bayou Music Center in Houston, Texas with the one and only Tommy motherfucking Segura. And then the 25th, I'm at the Dance House for two shows in Manchester, England, by the way. Sold out. Suck it. And then Irvine Improv, November 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

All right, you fur. That's it. The end of the show has come. It is 834. It's time to go get some steak, talk some shit, and we'll see you guys next week. Love the fuck out of you. Big kiss.