The Joe Rogan Experience - #440 - Dom Irrera

Episode Date: January 14, 2014

Dom Irrera is a stand up comedian, and also hosts his own podcast called "Dom Irrera Live from The Laugh Factory" available on Spotify. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Boom, dum, dum, dum, Dom Herrera. My brother, what's up baby? Everything's good Joe. You're a real comedian, Dom Herrera. You know, you're just saying that for folks who didn't listen to the commercial part. You don't have a tool, you never done a thing, you never turned a wrench.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Yeah, there's toolboxes. There's two toolboxes in my house and they were the last two women that live with me. They brought toolboxes? I can't even lift it. There's one I can't lift. I don't know how Sophie lifted it. That's hilarious. Every time somebody shakes my hand, they go,
Starting point is 00:00:40 man, you have soft hands. Oh, they're butter. They're like butter. They're butter smooth. Yeah, that's I really do believe that there's a real factor in that I mean, you have soft hands. Oh, they're butter. They're like butter. They're butter smooth. Yeah. That's, I really do believe that there's a real factor in that. You remaining on top of your game all these years. Like, you truly, like, completely, you know, you're a comedian. That's it. That's what you're capable of.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I love it. I could do it in a hammock. I followed Chris D'Elia the other night. He did a standing ovation at the Laugh Factory, right? I walk in, and this was true. I had just woken up. I took a nap like at 9 o'clock at night, and the audience was standing.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I go, no. I said, first of all, Chris just got a standing ovation. I just woke up. I said, I was just in the bathtub like a big fat fag, so lazy. The only reason I was taking a bath because I was too lazy the bathtub like a big fat fag, so lazy. The only reason I was taking a bath was because I was too lazy to stand up and shave. And I said to the crowd, now what would you do if you were me? What the fuck am I supposed to do, fly around a room?
Starting point is 00:01:36 What do you mean, after he had a standing ovation? Yeah, after he had a standing ovation. Am I supposed to fly around a room? I said, tell me what to do. And they were with me because it was honest. But the thing is, what you were saying about just, I give a fuck totally, but I don't give a fuck. I could do it in a hammock at this point. Just put my head out doing stand-ups.
Starting point is 00:01:54 That's actually not a bad idea. It'd be pretty funny for 30 people. That would be a good act. Just laying there. Yeah, especially if it was a part of a comedy festival, or maybe not even a regular set. Just like, ladies and gentlemen, we present you Don Myrera and a hammer.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And you just swinging back and forth with a wireless microphone in the air and talking shit. Man, have things changed since I started doing this show. Red Man is now taking acts on the road with him. Yeah. He took Tiffany Haddish, which I said, you know Tiffany. Yeah, sure. It's beautiful, right? But I said, you know Tiffany. Yeah, sure. I said, it's beautiful, right?
Starting point is 00:02:26 But I said, I would be afraid to fuck Tiffany or even him because I'm intimidated by her in a sense. You call that a dick, white boy? I'll snap that motherfucker off. Have you ever seen her queef into a microphone? She closed it in Dallas and it brought down the house. People just couldn't understand it was happening. It was like a good 10-second pause where everyone's face was like, wait, that just happened?
Starting point is 00:02:49 And then it just destroyed. So she just put the microphone in her box? Yeah, and she had been on stage for 30 minutes, so she had a wet pussy. She's mostly a writer. She had a wet pussy from being on stage? That's what she said. What's amazing, honestly, really, that she's the
Starting point is 00:03:05 first one to think of sticking a microphone in her pussy and queefing. I don't remember it being done before. She's a pioneer. Someone would have picked that up by now. She's a cunt pioneer. Yeah, but if you really think about it, isn't it incredible that it's 2014? For her, what was it, like
Starting point is 00:03:21 2012? When did she start queefing? She was on the podcast on the Ice House Chronicles. Like what? Two years ago, maybe. Maybe it might have been either 2012 or 2013. Either one of them. Either a year or a year and a half ago. But she was queefing, and I was thinking then,
Starting point is 00:03:38 I was like, I don't think anybody does this. It's kind of amazing, but you would have thought that somebody would have locked that down. mean that's been around for a long time the fact that no one stuck a microphone has any guy just committed to just farting on stage all the time I mean is as what a pujo is this her doing it yeah okay let's hear it I think that's part of a fart too man I gotta tell you I'm not really impressed yeah bitches farting on stage if you see it close up she like like kind of tilt her back a little and you could see her sucking air in so now you have to follow that no tony didn't he's sick right now he might have from the microphone i think oh
Starting point is 00:04:30 geez oh could you imagine if he really died because of the microphone imagine if you actually caught aids from a microphone you're like what the fuck man not saying that tiffany hansh has aids at all right but yeah god yeah, god damn, man. She's a lot of fun, though, man. I'm so proud of her. She's on the Arsenio Hall now. Trying to bail himself out after this queef episode.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Well, it is fascinating to me. I mean, it's just, first of all, it's fascinating because it's, even though you, say a woman's on stage, she could reference her vagina, she could point to it,
Starting point is 00:05:03 she could show it to you but when someone starts talking with it yeah like you know that noise came from that vagina that is several levels several levels more intimate her pussy's talking to you you hear the pussy talking boy those texas girls didn't know how to act either their face no one should know how to act listen no one on the planet the reason why we know how to act either. No one should know how to act. Listen, no one on the planet. The reason why we know how to act is because we're deviants. We're deviants and we've been around fucked up people our entire lives. I mean, you've been around no one but fucked up people since we started working together.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And I've been around no one but fucked up people for a decade before that. So our perspective is a bit skewed. Imagine the boyfriend driving to the thing telling his girlfriend the show may be a little... It may be a little queefy. Yeah, imagine if a girl's like really seriously Christian and, you know, I'll go to the show because I think Brian Redband's cute,
Starting point is 00:06:01 but I heard that this girl, Tiffany Haddish, makes satanic noise with her vagina. Joe do you remember the hooker that we interviewed a long time ago that on the Joe show? Yeah yeah in the parking lot of the comedy store she was like telling us how she did the business and stuff. I was really stunned I was like I wonder if she's still a hooker and I found her online still a hooker. Oh my god. It's been what like 10 years? She didn't she didn't get out of low school yeah no geez it's so weird how easy it was to find her too yes i'm torn i gotta be honest i'm torn on the whole idea of prostitution because i feel like i always feel like you should be able
Starting point is 00:06:39 to do whatever the fuck you want if you want to have sex with someone for free, you should be able to have sex with someone for free. If a guy wants $1,000, if you jerk him off and you're like, all right, then you should be able to do that. It should be legal. Yeah, it should be legal. No more different than if you wanted to get a massage. No one wants to massage you, man.
Starting point is 00:07:01 You're paying them to massage you. When you go to a spa and you get a rub down for an hour that person does not want to do that you're giving them money and they're making you feel good with their fingers like you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want and it's all our societal standards that are um fucked up and weird about sex that said when i hear that someone's a hooker like that and it's been a hook for 10 years, that does not feel good. It feels sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It feels like she's lost and she's in a bad place. And I'm torn because I don't know if that's my own biased perceptions. Like maybe she's meeting a bunch of people that are like really desperate for touch. And, you know, maybe she picks good clientele and they have sex. That's how she gets paid. And who gives a fuck? Maybe it's that. Maybe it's that.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I mean, but instantly you say that she's still a hooker. I'm like, but I'm like, I'm questioning myself. I'm like, why? You know, why does it always have to be bad? Is it because we've associated sex with something that you're, it's naughty. You're not supposed to do it. So someone doing it for a living is somehow or another a bad thing. I used to get prostitutes after I fucked a regular girl.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Why? Why? Just because it was wild. It was the curiosity of it. If I had one ounce of jizz left, seriously, I would have, say, a waitress or something on the road club, and she'd go, and I'd call a prostitute. Total addict.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Oh, that's hilarious. Thank God for blood pressure medication. Do you think that's part of that, just being Italian? Yeah. I really do. Yeah. You know, there's always been that, like, ridiculous stereotype of Italians as, like, over-sex goons. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:08:41 But there's a reason why that stereotype is not for chinese guys okay there's a reason why that stereotype is not for you know fill in the blank it's like for you over sexed apish goons for italians is because they are i fuck sophie for five years every day every day a couple at least a couple times a day even when she was reading I didn't need to know that, but now that I do, I feel better. Yeah, it's all my ancestors. My fucking family back home. All the Italians I knew
Starting point is 00:09:14 and that I grew up with, they were savages. Oh yeah, they would have gumaras, they'd call them. They'd take the gumara out on a Friday night and the wife out on a Saturday. Did you see that new movie, American Hustle? I fell asleep. Did you see that new movie American Hustle? I fell asleep. Did you see it?
Starting point is 00:09:28 I heard that movie sucks from so many people. I don't know what they watched. I fell asleep. I don't know. Really? Do you like it? Those people are idiots.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I gotta watch it again. I enjoyed that movie. I have it at home. They sent it to me. SAG sent it to me. It sucks. Oh, are you bragging about the SAG thing?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, they send it to everybody. What kind of a brag is that? Well, if it gets bootlegged, we know where it came from because Dom O'Re those no i had to agree to uh i had accepted the agreement like they're gonna trace it right right well there's a new thing they have now um somebody told me about online we can get movies as they come out they cost 500 bucks yeah and it's like you have like a box in your house and that box stores a certain amount of movies wow yeah yeah i'll send you the information i sent it to um the guy who did the av in this And it's like you have a box in your house, and that box stores a certain amount of movies. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, yeah. I'll send you the information. I sent it to the guy who did the AV in this place, my buddy. And he said, yeah, it's legit. He said it's a new thing. It sets up to your house. You could store like X amount of movies. You could have like 10 movies on it at any one time.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And they're all in your name, and they don't go anywhere. They just plug it in this box, and you can play them on your TV. And each movie costs like 500 bucks. Wow. Which is weird, man. It's like, that is a lot of fucking money. But I was at the movie theater. I went to see American Hustle, and this couple behind us just kept talking.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And it was not very many people in the theater, so they were talking pretty loud because there was no one next to them. And people just don't realize. They probably don't even realize they're being rude because they thought they were far away, but you don't realize how far your voice carries when everybody else is trying to... Yeah, I was just going to say that.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I was going to bring that up. It was really frustrating, but I just dealt with it and watched the movie. I didn't say anything. But a guy got shot in Florida. Yeah, a retired cop had a gun on him. He was texting. He wasn't even talking.
Starting point is 00:11:04 He was texting. Texting in the theater, and this cop wound up getting an altercation with him. I mean, that's step one, and then ultimate step 10 or whatever it is is he shot him. Who knows what happened? The cop could have asked him, and he could have gone, fuck you, bitch. Of course. Could have gotten crazy. He was 72 years old or something, too.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Well, maybe he was just ready to die on his own, and he was like, I just got to start killing kids until one of them gets me. That's why I like Arclight, because not only you can pick your seats, but then if there's somebody that's talking or something, there's like a guy that just pretty much stands in that movie theater. They're on it like that. Yeah, you're right. There's another place called Cineopolis that's even more dope. They have these giant lounge chairs. They fully recline. They sell food.
Starting point is 00:11:45 The food's really delicious. And it's a way better experience. People don't fucking talk. So it might be worth the 500 bucks is my point to have new movies as they come out. It might be worth it. What you do is you get the box and you set up a camera in a dark room and you film it. And then we make a DVD of it. And then we sell it to our friends for $20 each and get the $500 back.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Do you want to go to jail, or are you just retarded? Which one is that? That was my first line to him, the first time I did the show. That's right. That was the way we met. What are you, retarded? I loved how you handled it.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It was beautiful. It is. How did he handle it? You. Oh. How you handled it when you met him. Oh, yeah. Called him what it is. Well, I. How you handled it when you met him. Oh, yeah. Called him what it is.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Well, I think I was right, but I love him. I don't know if I would pay 500 bucks for a movie, though. That seems like a lot of goddamn money. That seems like, at this point in time, it's like, come on, man. Unless you're really annoyed by the public and have that much money, it doesn't matter. Yeah, but the problem is the more you do shit like that, you could become a hermit, man. You could become a hermit. If you really paid attention to how goofy people are,
Starting point is 00:12:50 you could really at one point in time force yourself into the mountains somewhere and just fucking be completely isolated. Well, you handle it well. You handle it really well. You have a lot of patience. It's not hard. It's just a bunch of people being nice to you.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But when we're shooting pool and somebody wants to take a picture, that's a little too much. Well, it gets annoying. That gets annoying when you're in the middle of some obvious activity or when you're eating. You're eating is a dumb one. That's like, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:13 With a mouthful of food. And they want to shake your hand, too. They want to shake your hand. They want you to come. I've had a lady in Vegas ask me to come over to her. I'm in the middle of eating. I had a mouthful of food. Hi, we're from Canada.
Starting point is 00:13:23 We would like it if you could come over to our table. And I'm like, what? Like, I'm in the middle of eating. I had a mouthful of food. Hi, we're from Canada. We would like it if you could come over to our table. And I'm like, what? Like, I'm eating. No, I'm not going to go. Why would you ask someone? I couldn't imagine going up to someone I didn't know and just ask them to come over to our table. We're big fans of Fear Factor.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I'd like you to come over to our table. It's ridiculous. Remember when Bruce Willis first started getting famous back at the Improv in the 80s? And this guy comes up to him, he starts shaking his hand, he wouldn't let it go. And Bruce is looking at me, and he goes, and the guy goes, Donna, get the camera.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Get the camera out of the car, Donna. Like he was holding him hostage until he took a picture. That's when I first saw it. Any one of my friends get that glimpse of fame and the annoying part of it Wow he just held on Don I get the camera And he's shaking Bruce's hand
Starting point is 00:14:08 Bruce is looking at me Like what am I supposed to do You can't win You pull it away You fucking punch him What do you do Some people are definitely crazy Some people are just too excited
Starting point is 00:14:17 To meet someone like Bruce Willis too It's like it's not natural I don't know what they think Is going to happen It's kind of cool Like if you see Bruce Willis Like ooh that's Bruce Willis That's you know That's the guy from Moonlighting That It's kind of cool. If you see Bruce Willis, like, ooh, that's Bruce Willis. That's the guy from Moonlighting.
Starting point is 00:14:27 That's the guy from Die Hard. That's Bruce Willis. He was in fucking Pulp Fiction. I always tell people just enjoy their work. Enjoy their work. Leave them alone because if they met some people, they'd be such a fucking disappointment to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You know? Well, I don't know, man. Some people just aren't used to it. In California, I think way more people are used to seeing famous people. Yeah, here they don't bother you. Here they don't say, thank you, I like your work, until after the check is done. So they're not trying to bump up the tip, you know? Yeah, there's a little bit of that, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:14:57 But California doesn't give a fuck. It's like if you're famous or not famous, there's so many famous people here, it's not that big of a deal. But if you're a famous person, like say, and you moved to Iowa or something like that, that would probably be really weird. I know that just as a comedian because in Columbus, Ohio, I get recognized more than I get recognized out here. But I might get recognized, but they don't give a fuck. Well, you have a big following, Columbus. You know, it's kind of interesting how comics develop followings in one city or another. And I've never really quite understood that.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But you know how there is that issue? Yeah. Like, the best example is that guy Bob Marley. I love Bob Marley. Great guy. Yeah. Great, salt of the earth. Such a goofball.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Sweetheart of a guy. I've known him for 20-plus years. I knew Bob when Bob was an open miker in Maine. He would come down and do uh nick's comedy stop and he would uh he did a guest set at one of our shows on the road because he was like uh the bangor house comedian in this place but it's a real sweetheart of a guy and a very funny guy but my point is that he's a huge act in maine yeah like. He sells books and albums and cool lots. You might have heard of him, like most of you, if you're a comedy fan, you might have
Starting point is 00:16:11 heard him on Sirius Satellite Radio or seen him on Comedy Central or something like that, but you would have no idea. Tell me a great story about Billy Crystal. They get into an elevator, him and Chuckch Bradley. And Billy Crystal was there. And Bob goes, and then Brooke's going, hey, Billy, nice to meet you. We're comedians. And he just kind of went, mm-hmm. Kind of dished him.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Oh, really? Yeah, ignored him. And Bob says to me, he goes, I don't know whether to fucking push the stop button and beat the fuck out of him or just let it go. He said, so he let it go. Wow, Billy Crystal probably stopped being a comedian somewhere along the line. Wow. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:47 About stop being a comedian? Oh, yeah. If you do that, you stopped being a comedian. He was always really nice to me, and then one time I interviewed him and De Niro for this Comedy Central thing, and he was real smug and shit. Like, he turned against me. Because De Niro is kind of thick, you know? And I said to him, because he sang.
Starting point is 00:17:05 De Niro's thick in what way? Thick mentally. Really? He's not there, you know, like real quick. I mean, he's a great actor, but that's a whole different story. But De Niro, I said to him, because he sang and analyzed that, and I said, I love your singing. I always loved it.
Starting point is 00:17:21 More than anything, I loved your singing. Obviously, I'm kidding. I go, I said, you were the definitive Tevye in Fiddler on the Roof. And De Niro goes, oh, thank you. Oh. Right? Like, he didn't fucking get it. He was barely paying attention to you.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And Billy was like, that's exactly what it was. Yeah. And Billy was like, you know, kind of snapping at me. I'm thinking, man, Billy, you're turning on me? I'm another comedian. Go with it. I think sometimes a guy like him will get tired of being the center of attention, you know, because I think also to be that kind of an actor, he's not.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Who, De Niro? Yeah. To be that kind of an actor. Don't you think he's lost some of his legacy, though, by doing these stupid films? He definitely has. But I'll tell you what. He was in American Hustle, and he's a fucking gangster in it. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:17:59 He's badass. I love the guy. He's a very small part, it's vintage deniro but that's my question like what when you work that much and you have taxi driver and raging bull in your itinerary and your resume where are you going to go from there i mean he just wants to work so he's doing the fuckers and all this stuff and well maybe he enjoys it yeah i think he does i mean it's like he obviously enjoys working you know that's a lot of pressure to be so big that you can't just do medium shit It's true, you know, well he put in some of the greatest performances of all time the Cape Fear. Oh
Starting point is 00:18:33 Christ that scene with when he was in the empty theater with the yeah the girl Mm-hmm put it his finger his finger in her mouth. Yeah, That was fucking wild. It was wild. It was a fucking crazy movie. He was one of the scariest guys ever as a menacing guy. And taxi driver as well. Well, he always deteriorated. Even in King of Comedy, he got crazier and crazier as the movie went on. Yeah, that's right. King of Comedy.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Oh, my God. I forgot about that. Rupert Pumpkin. You know what I saw the other day? I'm going to have to sit down and watch the whole thing, but I was flipping through the channels and it was on. Was I flipping through the channels or was I watching? Whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Somehow or another I was watching a small piece of it. Deer Hunter. Oh, yeah. I was having fun. Fucking God damn, that's a good movie. I had to stop it and I said, you know, I can't start it in the middle here and just watch it from here. I'm going to come back to this and watch this as a full movie.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That movie deserves to be watched as a full movie. Yeah, it's great. Just flip it through the channels and catch that. Not because this is Sons of Italy Day, but to switch to one other. No, but to switch to one other Italian. Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon. You ever see that? Fantastic movie. I saw it again last year.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Fucking incredible. Fantastic movie. Yeah, what a weird plot, too. Oh, yeah, and it was true. It was a sex change. It was a true story. Yeah, yeah, but like De Niro, I mean... John Casals?
Starting point is 00:19:55 No, who was the... Pacino. No, Pacino's buddy. Who was Pacino's buddy? John Casals. Yeah, he was Fredo. Yeah, exactly. He played such a weird, freaky character,
Starting point is 00:20:08 and Pacino was so off. Oh, yeah. It was such a different person, like this kind of guy who's robbing a bank to pay for a sex change. Like, what? Yeah, yeah. He almost seemed a little too together to be that guy.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Almost a little too together. When he went outside, that was when Attica came from. Attica, Attica. That was a big movie, man. Yeah. I was reading about him because they didn't want to cast him in The Godfather as Michael Corleone. You know who they wanted for it? Who?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Redford. Really? Robert Redford, right. That's interesting. And they watched and somehow Coppola wanted to him and he finally got him in. And how great was he in that movie? He was spectacular. The transition between Michael and The Godfather.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I think those guys that do those movies like Pacino and De Niro and Harvey Keitel and all these historical actors, after a while they're just fucking working. Yeah, yeah. It's like until the next really big project comes up, until something that comes up. Don't die on us, Tom. Got a little bronchitis, Joe. I know. Not bragging.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I know. But it's like to keep up that level of work, to keep up the level of work that they did, like Samuel Jackson, Pulp Fiction, to keep up that level of work, I did, like Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction. To keep up that level of work, I mean, that's a spectacular goddamn movie. How do you follow yourself? The part is so perfect.
Starting point is 00:21:34 That's one of the most menacing parts ever. That's another menacing. Like the menacing part of De Niro in Cape Fear, Samuel Jackson's menacing part as the hitman who's talking shit to you before he shoots you about your cheeseburger. That is indeed a tasty burger. He was fucking horrifying, man.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I was. How about the scene in True Romance? He was talking about the... Remember that? Who was in it? You're talking about when he was talking about Africa? Yeah, yeah. Gary Oldman, is that what you're talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:04 No, it wasn't Gary Oldman. Oh, Christopher Walken, when he was talking about Sicilians. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gary Oldman, is that what you're talking about? No, it wasn't Gary Oldman. Oh, Christopher Walken when he was talking about Sicilians. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Dennis Hopper. Christopher Walker
Starting point is 00:22:11 and Dennis Hopper. That was one of the heaviest fucking scenes but some comedy in it. Yeah, Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction was a motherfucker, dude. When he would quote
Starting point is 00:22:22 the Bible to you before he would shoot you, his wallet said bad motherfucker on it. He had jerry curls running around in a suit shooting people. That was a wild part. He's a good menacing motherfucker. He's got crazy eyes.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And thanks for doing my podcast. Anytime, my brother. Appreciate it. Can I do a shameless plug? Yeah, sure. Do you mind? Do you mind? Because these fucking clubs, this show. Appreciate it. Can I do a shameless plug? Yeah, sure. Do you mind? Because these fucking clubs, this show's so big, everybody asks me if I can do it.
Starting point is 00:22:50 If I can run 30 seconds, is that okay? What are you talking about? What are you doing? I just wanted to mention where I'm going to be. Do you have stuff written down? Yeah, because they drive me fucking crazy. Who's driving you crazy? Any club that knows I'm going to do this show,
Starting point is 00:23:04 I'm doing side splitters in Tampa. Can I do this? Yeah, go ahead. Just do it. Side splitters in Tampa, Knoxville, side splitters, Laugh Factory, Chicago, Long Beach, Vegas, Funny Bone, Columbus, Denver Comedy Works, Stress Factory, and Kilkenny, Ireland. This is all great, but this is not the way. Let me tell you the best way to do it in the future.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Just get a Twitter that you post on a regular basis and have all your dates up on Twitter. And then send people to your Twitter or send people to your calendar and website. Do you realize who you're talking to? These people are not going to remember all these things. That's the problem. When you say a bunch of things in a row, it loses their meaning. If you say go to domirera.net or.com, boom. Follow me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:23:46 How much do you do on Twitter? Do you get on Twitter all the time? Not all the time, but I do it. If I get drunk, you know, I do some profound vulgar thing. It's a great way to promote gigs, man. Yeah, you're great at that shit. But do you do it at all? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Do you do it before each week? Yeah, Taj got me into it. He did a retweet. I went from like four followers to 10,000 because he retweeted me. Really? Whatever he did, yeah. Yeah, Tosh, he's gigantic right now. You know what's weird about Twitter and just being around for a while?
Starting point is 00:24:18 Justin Bieber has like 44 million, something like that, and Paul McCartney has a million, right? And I know it's different worlds, but isn't that incredible, though? It is kind of incredible. It seems like... I mean, I don't think Paul McCartney's tweeting all the time. Yeah, does he use it? Because Justin Bieber actually uses it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, yeah. That's the big thing with one of those guys. He's always in the laugh factor, you know? He wants to do stand-up. What are you putting on? It's just a story of Bieber getting his house raided this morning. Oh, yeah. They found cocaine so far in it.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, God. Yeah, they're looking for it because he recently egged his neighbor's house and caused over $15,000 to $20,000 worth of damage. Allegedly, Brian. Allegedly. But supposedly there's video, allegedly. And I guess over $400, it's a felony. So they're raiding his home looking for any connections to that.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And if they find any drugs on the way, they can just arrest him for anything. How crazy do they need 10 cop cars to arrest Justin Bieber? Wow. They took him in? Yeah. Yeah. I think what the deal is is like recently in the news, he's been just terrorizing his neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:25:26 He's been terrorizing the cops. He's got a posse with him, you know, which is hilarious. That would suck if you had some multimillion dollar house and you lived in this really nice place, and then you had this crazy fuck living next door to you. Driving down the street like 50 miles per hour while your daughter's in this driveway. You know, that would suck.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You think he'll end up killing himself? Well, if he's doing the coke, it's not a good sign, Irera. No. Doing the coke is not, nobody just, like, is really good at coke. Like, there's some people
Starting point is 00:25:52 that are good at surfing. Yeah. And surfing's hard. If I tried surfing, I'd fall flat on my fucking face. But if you get good at surfing, you do it for a while, you learn how to perfect it.
Starting point is 00:26:00 No one ever gets that way with cocaine. No. You know how I said to you a long time ago, Joe, that when you did pot, it changed you, and I think it really helped you? I never said that about coke. I never said, you know, Tony's doing a lot more coke lately.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He's really gotten his life together. Yeah, a lot of people say that about meth. Guys do meth, and all of a sudden, they really fucking straighten up. Yeah. Get their life in order. Boy, your gums look good. Well, that's the problem with labeling a drug as a drug. You know, like saying it's a drug.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It seems like they're all the same thing. No, they're not. What a drug is is something that affects your brain. But the vast majority of them are good. Like there's a lot of good drugs. There's a lot of like really- I don't think a tea is a drug. I don't think it affects your brain.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Caffeine is a good drug. It's a good drug. I mean, you might not like it, but I like a fucking cup of coffee. Oh, yeah. I like it. It's good. You know? I like the fact that, you know, there's drugs that could help people that are sick.
Starting point is 00:26:56 There's drugs that can help people that are in intense pain. There's a lot of drugs that have like some real beneficial effects. And then there's drugs that will ruin your life. There's drugs that nobody survives. There's the opiates, the heroin, the meth, the speeds, the ones where you hear about these terrible stories of people's lives completely falling apart. I mean, you can kind of include pot in there.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I've heard people talk about other people that ruin their life on pot. Yeah, but that's them inside. They're looking for something to ruin their life. I agree, and I see that the same way as gambling. The gambling thing, people think that compulsive gambling is very different than drug addiction. I don't think it's different at all. No. I think it's all the same.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Somehow or another, you get hooked on a drug drug except this time you're getting a drug from taking a risk i believe you can have that with sex oh sure with anything masturbation these guys that have masturbated their dick raw and then like tried to figure out other ways of jerking off i'm not looking at you in the eyes because it's you i'm just saying yeah yeah for everything it's weird isn't it that people get addicted to stuff. The physical addictive part is really weird. That we, like a chemical, attaches itself to our system. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And then you need that chemical. Like, that's what they say about Amy Winehouse. They found no drugs in her system, and they think that she just quit drinking. And if you are a really serious alcoholic and you just cut it off entirely, you can actually die from that. Yeah, you go into convulsions. Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Yeah, Amy Winehouse, when she died, apparently it was just booze. You know, and everybody looks at her, and you think of her as this mess, you know, this awful drug addict, boozer, pill poppin'. But really, you know, it was alcohol. Well, I love to drink you know i still drink a lot but i uh i would never wake up and drink like that's that's i mean i'm not saying that's a good i'm not a condoning my type of drinking but man when you wake up and have a couple shots that's that's hurting you're not gonna last long doing that you're really putting
Starting point is 00:29:03 your liver into overdrive. Amy Winehouse was talented as fuck, though. Yeah. God damn, she could sing. She had such a sultry voice. But do you ever hear about people not talented? Because nobody cares. I mean, it's like, look at all the great people that died at 27.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Like the people from the 60s. Joplin, Hendrix, Morrison. All three of them died at 27. Right. Yeah. 27, man. I was a baby at 27. Right. Yeah. 27, man. I was a baby at 27. I was so stupid. All I did was play basketball.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I wasn't even a comedian yet. Well, I think we missed that generation, that Hendrix and Janis Joplin generation. If you talk to anybody that went through that, they say that the change from the time of their parents to know yeah was so massive and it was so much different than anything this culture had ever seen before there's a revolutionary change yeah and that was all fueled by drugs all of that that was marijuana and LSD specifically yeah that's what was changing all those people and that's why they came up with that sweeping psychedelic act in 1970 that made everything
Starting point is 00:30:06 illegal they didn't even have to have like proof of bioavailability like they they made some stuff illegal that doesn't even affect you doesn't even work well that's it was legal it's also was legal before that right yeah acid was they used toists used to give people, Cary Grant used to take acid in therapy. Da-da-da-da! Wow. That's heavy. Yeah, well, supposedly, according to McKenna,
Starting point is 00:30:31 the federal government originally came up when they found out about acid. They thought it was going to be a truth serum. They thought they were going to be able to give it to the enemy, grab them,
Starting point is 00:30:41 hook them up with acid, and then they would tell them all the coordinates for the enemy bases. And then they found out it was not a truth serum. There's no fucking way this is a truth serum. Did you ever take it? No.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So then they decided that it was going to be something that they would give their soldiers in case they ever got caught. So you wouldn't tell the truth. But could you fucking imagine? You're in war, okay? You're some poor kid. You've been shipped off to Germany. You've got a machine gun in your hand.
Starting point is 00:31:11 People are shooting at you. Bullets are whizzing overhead. And you get captured. Well, how fucking terrified are you? You're shit in your pants. You're going to die. Oh, my God. I'm getting captured by the Nazis.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And then you take acid. Like, was there ever worse advice ever? No. I mean, proof positive that the government is not looking out for your best interests. They give you fucking acid to take when you get captured by enemy. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:38 That's so ridiculous. Well, that was always like a paranoia of mine is getting somebody to put something in my drink. Should be. There's a lot of assholes out there. I never leave a drink on a bar. I never, you know, I always tell, especially women, don't trust anybody unless it's somebody who loves you, you know. I've talked to many people that believe that they were drugged.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Many people. I think that there's a lot of guys out there that do that on a regular basis. It's one of the most disgusting things about men is this thing that you keep hearing about i mean i'm sure it happens with women that women do it too whether to other women or whether to men but i hear about it with men doing it to women a lot it's scary the people someone would be willing to do that that they're such a fucking sociopath that they're willing to drug someone who wants to be with somebody who's just asleep? I mean, I guess it's a different kind of...
Starting point is 00:32:27 They just want to... I think part of it is they know they're doing something evil. Yeah. I think part of it is they know they're getting away with something, and they just want to do it because it's a crazy rush. Yeah. You know? I was thinking about that with rape.
Starting point is 00:32:39 You know, there was a woman who was raped in the Lower East Side. Not of her body. Yeah. I know. I was just thinking of a joke. I believe I went there. That's not funny, Tom. Stop laughing. It's funny, Joe.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's horrible. It's quick. But anyway, I was thinking, how the fuck do you stay hard? I mean, it's got to be just anger and violence because it can't be sex or anything. How do you stay hard when you're hurting somebody? For some people. And how do you take home when you're hurting somebody you know for some people and how do you you know take their clothes off and fucking it's crazy yeah
Starting point is 00:33:08 i think some people just have a horrible view of humanity of themselves of other people you know that and it almost all comes down to if you're willing to do that to somebody else like that you don't love yourself you don't love yourself. You don't love yourself. You haven't been treated with love. It's really that simple. If you want to hurt someone, scare them, and put terror in them, and that somehow or another gives you joy or gives you some sort of a rush, and you're willing to sacrifice this person's safety and health, you don't understand the connection between human beings. You've been raised in a terrible way. Whatever's happened to you along the way is a disaster.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You're a fucking terrifying aspect of society. How different we can be programmed that you could react like that, you know? Oh yeah, I mean, think about all the different variables when it comes to creating a human being. You know, if you get abused, that's the big one. People that have been abused and the recidivism rate
Starting point is 00:33:59 for people that were raped themselves, you know, the way that they turn to violent and violent sexuality, it's really, really common. You know, and then the people that do it, the people that abuse kids or abuse anybody, the real issue with them is they don't seem to get better. Like, it's a weird thing. Like, they always have that desire. They had this guy on a talk show once, and he was talking about it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He was a sex predator, and he was a reformed sex predator. He did time and all that jazz, and he would just talk about how when the thoughts come up, he just fights them back. Well, he was reformed, because a lot of them say that they can't be reformed. Well, he says he can't. I mean, he's controlling it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Right. But, I mean, the fact is he can't i mean he's controlling it right but i mean the the fact is he's also admitting that he has these feelings all the time right it's a fucked up thing like what did it what is that i mean we want to hate and we want to judge and you know it is an awful awful aspect of humanity but just strictly scientifically like what is that he was molested most likely right yeah yeah most likely unless there's something else wrong in the development of the mind some you know blood got cut off to the wrong area i mean i don't know i'm guessing but fuck man that's a a terrible combination we we must figure out how to eliminate that just if you eliminated if you look at all the like the you know look at the 180 degrees of possibilities
Starting point is 00:35:31 of people from really nice people to really fucking evil people the the really evil is a small number if you could just eliminate all the really fucked up shit people do. Like murder and rape. If you could just take away murder and rape. Just those two. Murder, rape, and robbery. I can understand murder more than rape. Well, I can understand it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Especially when you hear about how hot people get just in a row at a movie theater. Oh, yeah. A guy shoots a guy for texting and whatever words were exchanged. But yeah. But if you could eliminate just that small amount, boy know, and whatever words were exchanged. But, yeah. But if you could eliminate just that small amount, boy, would things be different, man. If you could just figure out a way to not develop rapists, not grow up murderers, not like, you know, if we could just figure out how to do that.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Just those things that none of us have done. Just those things that most of our friends haven't done. Just take those, you know, just those rare occurrences and eliminate them or drastically reduce them. The whole world would be different. Remember that comedian, Vince something, Vince Champ? Yeah, the one who was the rapist?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah, and he would go into... Colleges. Colleges, but also the pattern seemed to be he'd go into the music department where it was soundproof, the room, and the girl would be playing piano, you know, some practicing piano, and that's what he would do. You know, he had the whole thing down.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. What was his name, Vince Champ? I think it was Vince Champ. I don't know. Yeah, I think that's his name. Because on the wall, the Austin Club, Cap City,
Starting point is 00:37:00 they used to have this Vince Champ joke. I forget what the joke was. Oh, really? It was very distasteful about,ful about when he got arrested for rape. There's some joke about it. Yeah. That's a long way from a DUI. Yeah, well, it's also a really creepy thing that this guy was doing.
Starting point is 00:37:18 He was doing it over and over again. He was telling them to pray for him. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, he would rape these girls and tell them to pray for him. Was that the right name, Red Band? It looks like it, yeah. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:37:32 White guy or black guy? Black guy. Yeah. There's all these reports saying, like, he was a nice guy, everyone said. Yeah. He was down to earth. He's a fairly religious fellow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He's still in jail. Oh, yeah. He's a fairly religious fellow. Yeah. He's still in jail. Oh, yeah. He'll be in jail for a while. Yeah, they keep you in jail for a long time when you're a serial rapist. I mean, how long is he in jail for? Let me write that down along with my comedy club. It's got to be more than 25 years, right? Convicted of rape, kidnapping, and robbery.
Starting point is 00:38:03 He stole two? That wasn't enough? And we're not just talking jokes, Dom. He probably took little pieces of things from them or something. Oftentimes, people supposedly do that. They take little pieces of something from you that connects them as a trophy.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Several rapes of the music, like playing the piano, exactly. That's so awful. 19-year-old. He was convicted and given life sentences for two assaults in Iowa. With time served for Goodby Harry, he could be released in 2025. He will be 64 years old. How is life 2025?
Starting point is 00:38:42 How do they do that? Yeah. Life doesn't really mean life anymore. It's like 30 years is life 2025? How do they do that? Yeah. Life doesn't really mean life anymore. It's like 30 years is life. Well, they're too busy putting people in jail for pot, so there's no fucking room. Yeah, that's... Do you hear what they're doing with the people in Denver?
Starting point is 00:38:54 They're not letting them use banks. Weed is legal. They're selling weed. They made over a million dollars in the first day, and the government says you can't put your money in the bank. What are you going to do? Exactly. Wait wait the people that are selling the weed exactly the people that are owning these pot shops so this isn't doctors or anything like like california no no no no this is stores this is just like in amsterdam then well it's just like anything else is in a store
Starting point is 00:39:21 it's like selling tents or fucking microphone arms. It's whatever. You're selling a product. But the fact that this is available for sale and they have licenses and they start selling it in retail outlets, but the government says you can't put your money in a bank. So they run into some serious danger because you're talking about massive amounts of cash. Well, they probably had a lot of cash before it was legal. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Why would you think so? I mean, some people are just people that took a chance and started a business. Yeah, but they didn't pay with credit cards for when they sold pot on the streets. Any dealers, you know? Well, how do you know that they were dealers before this happened? Oh, I don't. See, now that it's legal in the state, this is like a protected business. It's a business.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I mean, it's a real legal business. They have a license to do it and everything. So it becomes a weird thing when you don't let those people put the money in the bank because you're creating a really dangerous situation. That doesn't make sense. Yeah. It's really dangerous. I never thought the illegality of a pot made sense. And I don't even smoke because I have no agenda. It's just such a stupid thing. It's such, I mean, compared to anything else. Well, it shows you how the government is not looking out for your best interest. If they're willing to take these people who are doing something that they voted on and they deem lawful and take these people and put them in a weird situation where they can't put their money in a bank,
Starting point is 00:40:37 you're being a bully. Like, you're being a cunty, shitty bully, and it doesn't make sense. Like, you're not protecting anybody with this. This is actually putting people in danger. So what do you do. You're not protecting anybody with this. This is actually putting people in danger. So what do you do? You're not going to arrest them. You're going to agree that the state says it's legal and states' rights, as we all agreed on
Starting point is 00:40:54 when they formed this silly country, states' rights are supposed to take precedent. It's supposed to be the number one thing and then the federal government is only in charge in times of crisis and emergency and war. But you're supposed to be able to vote on things in your states. That's the whole premise. It's like a little spite move.
Starting point is 00:41:12 It's a cunt move. It's a total cunt move. And it's not just a cunt move. It's nerve-wracking. It's like you're forcing these people to stockpile money. If they want to be in business, they have to take bags of money out of there. Anybody could just rob them at any point in time and you know it and they know it. And so you put them in this situation where they become targets and it's a really sneaky way of being a cunt. But you would think that they would want
Starting point is 00:41:36 the money to become part of the system because everybody makes more money. Someone's resisting and they think somehow or another as they lose ground over and over and over again they're gonna do this one thing that's gonna be good and get them back to the victory column, but it's not There's too much information now. It's not gonna work anymore. You can't do it anymore You can't tell us that we can't do something that's normal and natural There's nothing wrong with pot if you tell us we can't put money in the bank because we sell pot then we tell you what? Fucking bank. What are you talking about? Who runs this bank bank why how can you decide what the fuck happens in this bank is the government the bank connected like what's going on here how can you make this decision who owns the money right
Starting point is 00:42:14 you know why can't when why can't someone who's legally making it put it in a bank what are you trying to pull here well you're doing a business move is what you're doing you're blocking someone out of business that's what you're doing. You're blocking someone out of business. That's what you're doing. But suppose they sell pot and shrubbery, right? So they're making the money. What do you do? Who dictates which money came from the pot? Well, you'll have to have receipts. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Tom Herrera, accountant 101. Smart as a whip, Joe. Yeah, that's why, you know, you can't deduct everything. If you deduct too much, the government goes after you, just in spite. And then they go after your ass. They'll peek up your ass every four years. You can't deduct everything. If you deduct too much, the government goes after you just in spite. And then they go after your ass. They'll peek up your ass every four years. I remember before they had to claim stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I was a valet in Brooklyn. We would make so much fucking money. I had a suitcase full of ones. It looked like I robbed a dollar store. It was the greatest. Now waiters and waitresses have to claim everything. Right. But that was a great world in the 80s before
Starting point is 00:43:07 it all changed. They came down hard on them. On tips? Yeah. Did you ever work for tips, Joe? Sort of. I worked at a car wash. You got paid in tips there. A couple different places. Limo driver, kind of.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, you got tips as a limo driver. But it's not the big part. You never had a waiter, though. No, I never worked as a waiter. I worked as a cook a couple places. Really? Yeah. Worked as a cook at a Papa Gino's in Massachusetts and a place called Newport Creamery.
Starting point is 00:43:37 That's got to be fucking hard. Made cheeseburgers and shit. I was a kid in high school. It was a good gig. Everyone was fucking everybody. Really? Oh, my God. There was these hot girls that worked at Newport Creamery,
Starting point is 00:43:50 and me and a couple other savages, these guys. And we were all coming into puberty. Everybody was like 16, 17. We were all coming into, I shouldn't even say puberty. We were becoming uh men young adults young men and everybody was fucking everybody it was like this constant hookup it was like all this gossip like you don't think of people working flipping cheeseburgers getting laid dude great it's all boys all high school kids it was a complete utter orgy it was this
Starting point is 00:44:22 the girl who's the fucking worked at the the counter would blow you and this and this guy was trying to bang everybody and this guy
Starting point is 00:44:31 didn't give a fuck and this girl fucked these three guys one night she got hammered like it was craziness there's a girl
Starting point is 00:44:39 at the left that really wants to fuck you ew yeah and I told her last night she's asked me
Starting point is 00:44:44 last night she's asked me, last night she's asked. Let's not talk about this on the air. No, no, everything's cool. I told her you're married and happy and love your family,
Starting point is 00:44:53 so I said, leave him alone. Thank you. Appreciate it. Well, you know. Goddamn wolves. They're out there. I think it would be
Starting point is 00:45:00 way creepier if you were a chick, though. If you were a famous chick that a bunch of guys wanted to fuck, that would be very unnerving. That shit would be unnerving. Amy Schumer?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Is that her name? Amy Schumer? Yeah. Oh, the comedian? Yeah, yeah. We've seen a lot of guys want to fuck her. Oh, yeah. Do you want to fuck her? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I do. It's a weird time for a confession. I feel better now. I've got it off my mind. I've got it off my mind. Where'd that come from? All of a sudden, you're talking about Amy Schumer.
Starting point is 00:45:26 You ever whack one off to Amy Schumer? What's that? You ever whack one off to Amy Schumer? No. I don't whack off to individuals. Groups. You have a wall, and you have female comedians. Sarah Silverman.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Blue singers. Janine Garofalo. No, not Janine Garofalo. I like women. The blue man group. Oh, how dare you, Domofalo. No, not Janine Garofalo. I like women. The Blue Man Group. Oh, how dare you, Dom Herrera. How dare you? She's a woman.
Starting point is 00:45:50 She's the unfunniest. Let me tell you something. I worked in Montreal for fucking years. And one thing she has is balls, and she's a good actress. But I have never seen anybody suck the energy out of a room. You know how, remember the club soda? Uh-huh. And she is so fucking strong of a room. You know how, remember the club soda? Uh-huh. And she is so fucking strong, a woman, but she's so fucking, she was so bad that they didn't know what,
Starting point is 00:46:11 I saw people like trying to think of something funny that happened to them that day so maybe they could smile. Oh. And she died so badly and then she turns to me and it's like almost in slow motion like a twilight zone. She goes, Dom, did you give me the light? I go, Janine, I don't give lights. i'm just hosting the show whatever you want you want to come off she goes no i'll stay i'll stay and fucking die for three more minutes it was brutal anyway well she's a person that she's very smart obviously you know she's very opinionated she was a good radio host she was on that air america show She's a snotty fuck. She's very smart,
Starting point is 00:46:45 but I think in that, in that intelligence, you can sometimes be like really caught up in it and take yourself super seriously and then when you do, a lot of times
Starting point is 00:46:53 you lose your sense of humor. She was so rude to me. I did Mark Maron's podcast in Austin and she was on and she said, they were talking about some terrorist thing
Starting point is 00:47:03 and I just, I said, oh, that, you know, I named the wrong guy, right? I was just like not paying attention. Her and Norton and these people. She goes, is he serious? Is he serious? Like I wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Is he serious? I just wanted a fucking throttle. And I just was nice and when I went on stage with her, I was fine. That's a very Hollywood move of her. What? Is he serious? Is he serious?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Well, you know know you interrupted their really exciting talk about obscure shit right or political shit or you know world leaders that they think need to be addressed yeah people get angry if people are not on the same page you know i think it's funny when i talk to someone they don't even know what the fuck twitter is i think it's funny i don't get angry at them i don't't feel like, you don't know Twitter. Like, really? What you know is what you know. I mean, look, I know a lot about sports.
Starting point is 00:47:50 You don't follow the NFL like I do. But I would never be like, you know, come on, Joe, how could you not know that? The only thing I could see that would be annoying is if you were interrupting. If it was like a really important conversation for them and they thought they were really getting out a good point and you were cracking some joke about the wrong guy. No, I didn't do that. I just was asking, was that the guy? And that's when she said it was the guy who was the president of Iran they were talking about.
Starting point is 00:48:15 People take themselves really seriously. But I've done that before. I've taken myself too seriously before or getting too caught up in an idea before. The point where you think it's more important than just being a person yeah but part of that is what makes you such a fucking hilarious comedian because your point of view is unobstructed you just you or once you believe in something that's it and i like that just kind of commitment to it you know what i mean i mean when you like the things about the universe and when you get into certain things, I don't know how much you really know, but it's almost like you're preaching, but not in a bad way, not in a pedantic way, but just in a way like, holy shit, I think that's why you have so many fans, because you feel fucking strong in your beliefs.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Some more people waver than you. Hmm. Maybe, I don't know, man. When we talk about things like the universe or just the realities of this strange dimension that we exist in. We have that same thought about it. We probably have the same thought about the Earth's orbit and we have no control over it. Because I told you that agoraphobic thing that I have, where I will walk onto the beach and be afraid that I'll be sucked into the atmosphere. Yeah. And that's fucking wacky.
Starting point is 00:49:22 That's pretty crazy. And like, I'd be the first one since the Blessed Mother that ascended into heaven. You know, you're just laying on the beach, and all of a sudden I'm fucking shooting up into the sky. That's a weird fear. I know. But I always carry anchors with me to the beach.
Starting point is 00:49:40 We're so lucky that this is a time where you can go on to just, you know, space.com or any io9.com. There's a million different websites that could show you these crazy videos of the universe and crazy new things they're discovering every day. I think there'd be a shame to not, like, take part in the wonder of that all because it's all going on right now. And the revelations that these guys are figuring out on a weekly, monthly, and yearly basis are fucking incredible. They just took a photograph of a planet and a star.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I saw that. It's like 60-something million light years away. But it's already burned out, but we just got the light from it. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah, it's already gone in reality, but it took so long for the light to get here,
Starting point is 00:50:23 we just got it. That hurts my brain! That hurts my brain. When you're looking at a star, you're seeing a star that may be already gone. Well, the thing that fucks me up is that there's no end to the universe. Because I'm used to an end, like the end of the trail, the end of this, the end of a relationship, some kind of fucking end. But there's no end to the immense enormity of space. That blows me away.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Well, not only is there no end to it. This is what they're saying now. It doesn't make any sense to me. But they believe that the universe may be broken down into individual sizes, but then these individual universes exist in parallel with a bunch of other like infinite number of individual universes so what they think is that this is impossible for me to even understand so i shouldn't even be relaying it but this is as how it's been explained
Starting point is 00:51:18 inside every black hole they think is the portal to another universe. Inside every galaxy is a black hole. So when you look out, you see 100 million galaxies. What you're seeing is 100 million universes. And each side, each galaxy, if you go through the black hole in the center. Do they quaff? I don't know. They probably do. And somewhere on those planets, imagine if Tiffany Haddish was the first person to queef a microphone in the universe.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Queef. In the whole universe. The whole. Maybe that's what brings the aliens here. We never thought of that. We can do that. We never thought of that. Not into a mic, at least. This is truly groundbreaking, this American art form of stand-up comedy.
Starting point is 00:51:55 But the, so what they're saying is it's like, it's like a fractal. You know what a fractal is? You ever seen like a fractal image? No. A fractal image is a geometric image that as you get closer and closer and smaller and smaller and closer and you realize that the same image repeats itself over and over and over again infant infinitely um one of the more fascinating ones is called the mandelbrot set google mandelbrot set fractal um video because there's a video where they show how it works.
Starting point is 00:52:28 First of all, it looks like a design. You just look at it. It's like, okay, it's just some weird design. It looks like a logo for a cartoon or something like that, just some weird design. But then as you get closer and closer to this design, it branches out. All along the edges are not smooth,
Starting point is 00:52:44 and closer to this design it branches out all along the edges are not smooth and around the edges are in fact the exact same pattern of the of the Mandelbrot set the way it looks on the outside and then as you get closer in you see it again and closer in you see it more it never ends it's infinite like what do you got there Mandelbrot set you see that thing to the right of it see the thing to the right the black one that's the Mandelbrot set see that thing to the right of it see that thing to the right the black one that's the Mandelbrot set no no no
Starting point is 00:53:08 the one above it the one above that see that one the black one yeah that's it the black one that's the Mandelbrot set it's
Starting point is 00:53:18 fractals are fascinating man because they're able to create these things with computers that you know didn't exist 50 years ago. And actually, I don't even know when they invented fractals. I think it might have been even more recently than 50 years ago. But the idea behind them all is that they're infinite. That as you go deeper into the macro, into the micro, you see that this pattern repeats itself over and over
Starting point is 00:53:45 again. This is the best way to describe it. A fractal is a mathematical set that typically displays self-similar patterns, which means that they are the same from near as far. Often they have an irregular or fractured appearance, but not always. Fractals may be exactly the same at every scale, or as illustrated in figure one, they may be nearly the same at different scales. The definition of fractal goes beyond self-similarity. Anyway, what they think is that the universe is like this. They think that inside every black hole is a whole nother universe. Not only is it infinite, but it might even have its own laws. It may have its own physical laws of movement and weight and gravity and light and all those things might be
Starting point is 00:54:30 different. It might be off. It might be a completely different existence. And then inside those universes are hundreds of billions of galaxies. And inside them, hundreds of billions of infinite new universes. I always think of that when they say, you know, we're searching for a place that has water so they could have life, but how do we know that there can't be different kinds of lives that don't depend on water? It all hurts my head. It all hurts my head.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's why I'm a comedian, ladies and gentlemen. Hey! Oh, ah, oh, oh, is this thing on? It really does hurt my head when I start thinking about that each galaxy would actually be infinite. Like, they'll say that even though maybe the universe is 15 billion light years across, it's still infinite. Because even though it's impossible to measure. A billion light years.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Yeah, 15 billion light years. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. A billion of that. And 15 billion. I mean, that's the idea is that the Big Bang occurred 14 something billion of that. And 15 billion. I mean, that's the idea, is that the Big Bang occurred 14-something billion years ago, and from then on, it's just been this expansion, this slow expansion to what we are today.
Starting point is 00:55:35 So what club are you working this week? I'm not working. I'm going pig hunting. Are you really? With Callan? No, no, no. Steve Rinella. We're not filming this.
Starting point is 00:55:44 We're just going to go shoot some wild boars. Are you serious? I'm totally serious. Wow. You've got this whole alternate life, man. Well, I'm very excited about this little hunting thing. I've become obsessed. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You should get a GoPro, man. I would really like to see, like, you know, you can get a GoPro that attaches to your chest or your helmet or whatever. Or a rifle. Yeah. The GoPro on the rifle would be the way to go, right? Yeah. You see the bullet come out.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I wonder if you can do that. Where do you go pig hunting? There's a ranch. We're going to a ranch in Northern California. And they put the pigs out there? No, no, no. They're wild. Oh, they're wild?
Starting point is 00:56:15 They're wild boars. Wow. Yeah. They're these crazy looking monster animals. You ever seen a wild boar? Yeah. I've seen them. Well, wild boars are one of the few animals that you can hunt all year round because they have to keep the population in check.
Starting point is 00:56:29 If they don't keep the population in check, the results are disastrous. Like, perfect example is they opened up a highway in Texas. The night they opened it up, there was some insane number, like 40 accidents, car accidents where people hit pigs. Really? Yeah, because they're fucking everywhere. Texas has an insane amount of pigs. Insane amount. And they're really out of control to the point
Starting point is 00:56:49 where they eradicate them through helicopters. They have helicopters that fly over herds and just gun them all down. Wow. Yeah. It's crazy. Now, do you eat them? Oh, yeah. Oh, they're delicious. They're really good. They're really tasty and they're, you know, of course, depending on what they're eating. If you get pigs that are near people, you're going to get pigs that, you know, they might be eating some garbage.
Starting point is 00:57:09 They might get a hold of some people. But if you're having pigs that are living out in the wild, they're sort of omnivores. You know, they'll eat some meat. They'll eat grasses. They'll eat plants. They'll eat vegetables. They eat a lot of things, but they're super lean, and they're fucking mean looking. What is that uh this is a guy named caleb that i
Starting point is 00:57:25 met in austin and this is his uh dogs attacking a wild boar that got on his farm i believe it was okay i don't want to see this man i don't want to see this yeah it's gross it's crazy there's one way they hunt them man they use dogs and they sick dogs on them the dogs hold in place then they come along and cut the pig's throat. Not when I say they, not this, this ranch. Right. They do that in Hawaii a lot and they do that in Texas a lot. They use, uh, they use dogs. The dogs hold the pig down and they stab them. It's really kind of fucking crazy. I think that, uh, shooting an animal is probably the most ethical way to, I mean, period of ending an animal's life. If you're going to eat meat, even if you're buying meat that's in a store, you're dealing with the fact that that animal was a fucking slave.
Starting point is 00:58:14 That animal was just sitting around waiting for its death from the moment it was alive. But if you're getting an animal in the wild, like you're dealing with something that is completely off the grid. And then you're stepping into its world for a bit and taking something out of it yeah and eating that and that's going to be your food yeah with him and the pigs were attacking his property his dogs found him on his probably the dogs were just like walking around and then the pig attacked the dogs and then yeah they'll kill your dogs yeah they'll kill your dogs will they go after a person they'll kill people if you have them in a pen you know that's a real common thing with pigs.
Starting point is 00:58:47 By the way, these wild pigs, according to Steve Rinella, even wild boars, it's essentially the same animal. They can interbreed. They breed back and forth with each other. You know, there's different strains, but they're essentially the same animal. But if you have, you keep domestic pigs and you fall in when you're feeding them, good luck. Really? Yeah, they might eat you. They might just bite the fucking shit out of you.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And once they bite you and they find out that they can eat you, they don't care about you. They're going to keep eating you. They're going to hold you down and fucking eat you. And no evidence. Yeah, they'll eat everything. They'll eat your goddamn teeth. They'll eat everything. They'll smash everything up.
Starting point is 00:59:20 They're fucking monsters, man. And they taste delicious. Nothing like bacon. Well, in the South, they have a lot of the wild boars and the domestic hogs. They're like sort of interbreeding and they're making these giant fucking wild pigs. Have you ever seen or heard of hogzilla? No. Okay. Pull up the image of hogzilla. You won't even believe this is a real animal. They're having these pigs that are like the size of cows. Like a normal pig, you know, they get pretty big.
Starting point is 00:59:49 You know, domestic pigs, they get pretty huge. I mean, I think they can get 1,000 pounds. Really? Yeah. But these fucking things are ridiculous. Look at the size of that. That's a perspective one. There's one where it's hanging upside down.
Starting point is 01:00:02 That's not the Hogzilla one either. That's a different large wild boar. That's it. Holy shit. Yeah, look at that. Okay, that guy's standing right behind that fucking thing. He's not too far away. See, because his foot is parallel to the paw of the pig.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So the argument that this is like a perspective shot I think fades away because that guy's touching that thing. That's a big fucking animal. Now, is there a chance you'd come across one of them where you're going? No, no, no, no. Those are, that's like a deep south thing. That's a Georgia thing. They've had that in.
Starting point is 01:00:34 That is fucking freaky, man. I think Georgia's where they've gotten the biggest ones. So that's because of a certain kind of breeding. They breed them, huh? Well, the wild pigs and the domestic pigs are breeding. And then sometimes if they get out, they can get really big. I mean, who knows what it could be. It could be that, I'm just guessing,
Starting point is 01:00:52 but it could be that someone fucked around with genetics. Look at the size of that thing. Jesus fucking Christ, Damarera. That is a huge animal. Don't tell me it's fast, too. Oh, they run. Really? Oh, they run fast.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And they're muscular as shit, man. Holy shit. They're notoriously tough. But the flesh is really lean and really good for you. Imagine the olgy, the guy who got killed by a pig. It's not the first. People try not to laugh. I wouldn't think people would be laughing, Dom.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you. It's just someone lost their life. Okay? Look at that thing. Give it to a pig. Look at that fucking pig. You tell me you don't think that pig would take you out? That pig was running after you?
Starting point is 01:01:28 Joe, I don't know if you know how nimble I am. Well, your tongue is very... Shouldn't have taken that Xanax. Yeah, pigs are giant. They can get really big, real aggressive. And they have... What is this? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It's just mixing with the pig photos. It makes no sense. Anyway, yeah. So, pig hunting. That's what I'm doing this weekend. Where are you working? Tampa, side splitters. Sorry about the shameless plug.
Starting point is 01:02:00 No worries, man. I won't do that again. It's ineffective. I won't do it again. Are you staying at a ranch? Are you camping? No, I'm doing, won't do that again. It's ineffective. I won't do it again. Are you staying at a ranch? Are you camping? No, I'm doing... I stay at a hotel.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Oh, are you talking to Joe? Yeah, yeah. I stay at a ranch. It should be fascinating. Who are you going with? This guy, Steve Rinella. He's going to be on the podcast Friday. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Is he an expert on this stuff? Yeah, he's a hunter. He has a tv show called meat eater uh-huh let's check it out yeah exciting stuff what's it on discovery no meat eater is on like the sportsman's network i think they got so many fucking networks do you know they have a military network yeah it's all just people keep shooting shit yeah what was the in the hitler network well that's history That's what they call Well history
Starting point is 01:02:45 Is all like Shitty reality shows They're like moonshiners Yeah but I mean On the history channel They show Hitler More than anything
Starting point is 01:02:52 Do they really Well every time I turn it on Yeah History seems to be More like reality shows Now than anything They're all giving up
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yeah It's almost like You have to have Reality shows on Yeah If you try to put Nova on every night And fucking
Starting point is 01:03:04 Science documentaries People just go Click next Whatever they want to watch some rednecks yeah what's that duck dynasty yeah have you seen moonshiners is it good it's the dumbest one of all time oh yeah it's the most fake dumbest one of all time because cops are looking into the car like they're shooting this from the car the The cop's looking into the fucking car. There's a television camera, and the cop doesn't bring it up. The cop's like, so where are you off to? What's going on here? He's looking into the car at the fucking camera, and he's not going, what's the camera? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:03:35 What are you doing? And no one says, well, we're here shooting a TV show. That never comes up. No one ever says we're shooting a TV show. So these cops are lying. Everyone's lying. They're all fakers. They're just staring at the camera.
Starting point is 01:03:45 What if they do another take? They probably do. They're fucking selling moonshine. That's illegal. If it was moonshine, they would all be arrested. There would be no show. I mean, what they're saying is that they have these backyard stills. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:57 They make moonshine. So I think now what they're trying to do is say that it's all fiction and that everything has been legal and nothing illegal. It's only water in those stills and it's all just, you know. But why do they even have moonshine when alcohol is legal? Because they want to make their own.
Starting point is 01:04:14 They don't want to have to put a tax stamp on it. They want to be able to make it super potent. You should be able to make moonshine just like you should be able to make beer. You can get absinthe now, can't you? I think you can get absinthe in certain dosages. We're in Ireland, and Mitch Hedberg said to me, you know, he goes, he goes, Dom, he says, I've been sober all day.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I go, oh, good for you, Mitch. I love Mitch. And he goes, yeah, because I want to do absinthe tonight, and I want to see what it's like from zero to 100. So the only reason he was staying sober was to see how fucked up he got on, you know, like furniture polish, basically. This is stuff, furniture polish. It's like alcohol.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Absinthe is like alcohol. Have you ever had it? Yeah, yeah, I've had it a couple times. It's weird. Is it too strong? It's a weird feeling. It's like a cousin of drunk. It's like drunk's next to a neighbor.
Starting point is 01:05:03 It's like... You don't hallucinate. You're all partying in the same party, but there's a fence between them. No, there's no hallucination. It's just like being drunk. It's like drunk's next to a neighbor. It's like... You don't hallucinate. You're all partying in the same party but there's a fence between them. No, there's no hallucination. It's just like being drunk.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah. It's just a weird drunk. Tastes weird. It's like black licorice-ish. Yeah, I'm not so sure I like it. What'd you... Did you drink a shot
Starting point is 01:05:18 or like a real... Oh, I had several. Yeah. No kidding. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I had it a long time ago in Canada. That was the first time I ever did it.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I never see you drunk. Yeah, I'm pretty smart about that. It's not a good thing to do. No, not really. You're driving that beautiful car you have. Well, that I don't do definitely, but getting drunk, period, in public? Yeah. That doesn't seem like a good idea, Tom Herrera.
Starting point is 01:05:42 We should get drunk at your house some night. You want to get drunk? Is that what you're saying? I want to smoke pot. I told you. Well, let's do it. What we should do is... I want to smoke pot in a safe thing.
Starting point is 01:05:50 We should get drunk on the podcast, and you should smoke pot as well. That'll be our next podcast. Sounds good. Well, we got a plan. We could do it right now. You got two hours. We don't even. We don't even.
Starting point is 01:06:01 It's 1.30. And Tom Herrera is not a man who likes to do things impulsively. He likes to plan things. He likes to schedule events. I was talking about you last night about what a fucking animal you are. You're just so like...
Starting point is 01:06:16 You can't just shoot pool with Joe for an hour. It's got to be three hours. Everything he does... I said, I feel bad for his wife. She's got to be tough. I'm obsessive. It's probably not healthy. You've got a lot of energy, man.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I don't see where it hurts you. You've got a great career. What the fuck? Great life? Well, yeah. I mean, I think being obsessive, though, can definitely hurt if it gets out of control. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:40 It's just a matter of channeling, like obsessive thinking or the tendency to like follow things down to the ground, chase them down till they're dead. But you've changed, Joe. Like I told you, like, you know, the thing about Michael Jordan, where they go, well, he didn't even beat his mother in ping pong, you know, whatever. He has to beat everybody and everything. everything. I think, well, you know, there comes a point where he's an asshole, you know? And not that you were ever an asshole because you never were, but you were so mad at yourself when we used to shoot pool and stuff. Oh, I missed. Yeah. And you, you've lightened up considerably. Well, I realized somewhere along the way that that is a, that's a very faulty way of thinking and that that's all it is. Yeah. It's like being upset because you did something wrong doesn't make the doing something wrong better
Starting point is 01:07:27 and just like outwardly expressing it, in fact, is indulgent. And the really intelligent thing to do is to accept the fact that there's this shift in the way you feel because you're upset that something went wrong or whatever. Yeah. But you've got to internalize that. And that's part of being a man. And being a spoiled little boy or a brash, young, cocky boy,
Starting point is 01:07:50 people, like, fucking get mad, throw things around when they're upset. You know, if they miss a shot. I mean, I've seen guys in pool tournaments miss a shot and snap their stick on the ground. Well, yeah. I play with this guy, Harlan Jameson. He owns Bananas. I don't know if you ever worked that club.
Starting point is 01:08:06 In Poughkeepsie? Yeah, Poughkeepsie. Yeah, I've done that one. Way back. We'd be shooting pool, and he was a pretty good player, and he would bang the fucking stick on the table. Bang the stick, and I'd go, Harlan, if you keep doing this, I'm out of here. This is like fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:08:18 And he did nothing against me, but it's just such ridiculous behavior. It's not a man's behavior. It's a child's behavior. I mean, you never did that. You would just get mad at yourself. Yeah, well, I would just, I would be, I would know it was always a lack of concentration. I mean, there's shots that you miss
Starting point is 01:08:34 where you know you just didn't hit it right, but there's also shots you miss where you know it was a fairly makeable shot, but you took it for granted. And you're like, fucking idiot. You know, those are the angry ones. It wasn't misses. It was more of lapses of concentration
Starting point is 01:08:48 that I was really upset at myself for. But yeah, that shit doesn't do you any good. No. It's a waste of energy. Yeah. Now I just internalize, or I try very hard to just internalize. But that's just a factor of getting older and smarter.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yeah. You hope. Doesn't happen to everybody. I know. That's the saddest thing, when you find dudes that you didn't talk to in a long time and they've regressed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:11 They become more delusional or more complainy. You know, a lot of guys are complainy. You talk to them. You haven't talked to them in a long time. You talk to them and there's this overwhelming complaint. Oh, I know. I hear that all the time. I got a friend who does cruise ships, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:24 and he doesn't like it. He's got a family, and he does other stuff too, but he's always fucking lying. I says, listen, man, you're making, I said, look, you see this thing? You see this car? You see this? It was all bought through jokes.
Starting point is 01:09:35 You know how fucking hard some people work for nothing? They can't get shit jobs. I'm supposed to feel bad for you because you're going to Turkey, you know? That's a hard gig, though. Oh, I wouldn't want to going to Turkey You know That's a hard gig though Oh I wouldn't want to do it You're right though it's definitely better than coal mining Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:09:50 A lot of people would be super happy to do it I love when people go you do the hardest thing in the world No I don't But the guy who discovered these What were they the mirror things Fractals Who the fuck does that What kind of mind?
Starting point is 01:10:05 Yeah, super smart science dudes that no one wants to fuck. That's what's up. Yeah, exactly. They got more time on their hands. Once they start getting pussy thrown at them, their fucking science deteriorates drastically. You know? This is all like, you have to have no chance of pussy
Starting point is 01:10:21 to be sitting in front of a computer banging this out. Because there's some girls out there that would just rob you of all ambition. Whenever I think of no chance of pussy, I always think of that bit you had. You know, the one, the New Rules bit. I always think of the guy. What was the guy's name who she married? He was in his 90s. J. Howard Marshall.
Starting point is 01:10:41 J. Howard Marshall. Yeah. No chance of pussy unless you're a trillionaire. 1904, actually. It was when fractals were invented. I was way off. That's fascinating. That's the earliest modifications.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Mm-hmm. Yeah, who the fuck are those guys? Yeah, we need those, though. I mean, you think about the things that we use on a daily basis, like computers, all the things we need. I have no idea how any of that works. Not only do we not understand how it works, but even if we did, even if we knew exactly how the operating system works, exactly how the memory is stored, which you could never make that thing. You could never build it. You could never invent it on your own.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I can't make anything. Yeah, but I mean, not even you. I mean, any of us. Yeah. It's fascinating how much of our society relies on things that almost no one understands. I don't fucking understand plumbing. I don't understand how you can get the same water pressure on the 10th floor as you have on the second floor. It's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:39 It's madness. It must be a river on the roof. Yeah, water pressure is weird uh you ever have um uh like a root get into your pipes no never had that happen i had a root got into my pipes and grew a fucking tree holy shit i mean when i tell you grew a tree right now yes oh my yes when i went to colorado and i was gone for a while the uh when you flush the water the uh apparently like there was these little tiny cracks in the pipe uh from the toilet uh down to the street that's it see that thing right there that was inside my toilet growing it looks like a muskratrat, right? Yes. That is a fucking root. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:12:27 That's the root of a tree. So it got through, and then because there was all that water in there, it started growing like crazy and was searching it because that's what roots do. They grow down towards where the water is and suck it out.
Starting point is 01:12:39 That's how they get moisture out of the ground. So it cracked my pipe open and grew inside of it that's real that's not made up that image i mean if you're listening to this it looks almost like an animal well how do you find that what's the is it on uh flicker joe rogan root pipe just put that in your blend tech right there just google joe rogan root pipe yeah i wouldn't do that because it's filled with poop. That was fed by poop. Poop and peep and water. That thing grew like a weed, like a veritable weed.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I don't understand it either. I got a new thing recently that it's instant hot water. You know what they're talking, they're tankless water systems. So your water goes through this thing and it instantly turns hot. You don't have a tank of water just sitting around getting hot. That would be good for my sitz baths. What's amazing is, say, you never run out of hot water. That's one thing.
Starting point is 01:13:35 That's cool. You got it in the house now? Yeah, I just got it. If someone's using the water, and you have a friend that takes a long shower, you go in after that person, and you're fucked. You know, you're going to have to take a mediocre-ass shower because there's no hot water left. With these things now, they have it so the water can go through it,
Starting point is 01:13:52 and it's always hot. People will be coming over to your house to take baths. That's my plan, my friend. That's how you get them naked. So is it in one place in the house, or is it, like, on every single, like, faucet? No, no, no. It's in one place. It's one area where the water comes in, and then it regulates it out oh it's ridiculous
Starting point is 01:14:09 it's one of the weirdest things ever it's just like how do you wait what happens huh so the water is i mean it's hot as fuck too it's not like it's kind of hot it's kind of hot no it's it's boiling hot all the time right out of the gate so it's weird i don't know how the fuck they do regular plumbers put that in there? Is that like a specialty? Regular plumbers. Yeah, it's something they put in now. It's a normal thing.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And, you know, a lot of people, especially where we live, are going full solar. Because you can go full solar where you don't even have to be attached to the grid. There's enough sunshine in Southern California where you can just have these fucking... That's pretty cool. It's crazy. I had a guy come over last week. My garbage disposal was down. And he recognized California, we can just have these fucking- That's pretty cool. It's crazy. I had a guy come over last week. My garbage disposal was down. And he recognized me, right?
Starting point is 01:14:50 And not only did he recognize me, he also gave me coupons. I'm thinking, I guess he recognized me, but he doesn't think I'm doing too well. And then he said, I got to tell you, it's a pleasure to meet you, Mr. O'Hara. O'Hara? O'Hara. How the fuck did he get it? Why O'Hara? And my name's written on it, Irera.
Starting point is 01:15:04 He just didn't look down. Well, he's just not good at pronouncing things. Made me Irish. O'Hara. O'Hara. How the fuck did he get it? Why O'Hara? And my name's written on it, Irera. He just didn't look down. Well, he's just not good at pronouncing things. Made me Irish. O'Hara, Irera. Yeah, same shit. He could be a little black Irish. I had a woman call me Mr. Irene. Talk about lazy.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I'll be up there in a second, Mr. Irene. Room service. She made a mistake. Don't get upset. Don't get upset. I like it. I just turned into bits, Joe. I turned into comedy gems. And do get upset. Don't get upset. I like it. I just turned into bits, Joe. I turned into comedy gems.
Starting point is 01:15:27 And do you ever. Oh, come on. What about you? Don't start with me. And do you ever. I saw you at the ice house. Yeah, fuck Billy Crystal. That's right.
Starting point is 01:15:37 We just said it. Fuck Billy Crystal. Talk about throwing that in your memory bank and splurting it out an hour later. Bob Marley's the nicest guy in the world. Billy Crystal giving him the cold shoulder. How dare you, Billy? I know. Must have been on his period.
Starting point is 01:15:53 He's a little smug, I got to say. That's unfortunate. Yeah, he's had a beautiful career, man. He's fucking smug. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, it's a lot of pressure. A lot of pressure on those guys. A lot of times they crack.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Fuck them. They start buying into their own bullshit. I think that's the guys who don't are the guys who keep doing stand-up. Because no matter what, no matter how funny you are, or how famous you are, rather, when you get on that stage, you have to be funny. They give you a couple minutes, but you got to be funny. Joe, I haven't been on stage since Friday before last. It's the longest in probably 20 years.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Because of being sick? Yeah. Wow. But isn't that true? Like, that's how we do it. Like, a lot of folks don't know. Like, if you take a month off or two months off or something like that, it feels really weird when you come back. You can't be a wise guy, wise-cracking Italian comedian with a hacking cough.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Doesn't work. You know, that's why I couldn't go on. I mean, I could have made it. I've been on stage with fevers and torn muscles and shit, but the cough fucking did me in. I only had to cancel one gig ever. Wow. As far as a weekend, it was, I think,
Starting point is 01:16:57 maybe when I was younger I did, but that I could remember as a gig that I was supposed to fly out to. I think I was supposed to do the Stress Factory. I'm pretty sure that was what it was. Vinnie Brand. the fever i had a flu it was bad it was one of those ones where it was like on monday i canceled i was like there is no way yeah yeah well at least you gave him that yeah it was bad the fucking flu that's going around right now is a motherfucker dude i've talked to some people that got it that were fine, and then two days later they're in the hospital on IVs. Really?
Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah. Holy shit. They were showing in Houston that people were like, I think they were up to like 50 people have died from the flu. I'm sure it's old people and babies. Well, you know, if you fuck up, man, that's the thing about being sick or not having a healthy body or healthy immune system. Like when you're not healthy all the time, like you're pulling all-nighters, getting a couple hours sleep before you get to work, you're working all day and drinking coffee, and your immune system is fucking getting chipped away.
Starting point is 01:17:58 If that is when it enters into your life, like you can die. Like you can die. Like, you can die. If you're hungover and drawn out and fucked up, and then, boom, you get hit with the flu, holy shit, you can get jacked. I had so many people, like, bum me out. First, they, like, act like they cared, and they go, oh, yeah, you know, I said, I think I'm getting better.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah, he goes, yeah, a friend of mine had that. You know, it's like three months. I said, thanks, you know, it's good. Thanks for cheering me up. Did you tell him his friend's a pussy? That's what I'd say. Fucking friend's a pussy. Your friend's a pussy.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I'm going to be back in two days to smack him. Three months. Get the fuck out of here. Kind of cold last three months. Well, it's not a cold anymore. Yeah, it's an epidemic. It's bronchial asthma. That's what you have now?
Starting point is 01:18:42 Do you have asthma? I got something. That's what this thing is. It's discus. I got to inhale it. You know what's have now? Do you have asthma? I got something. This thing is this discus. I gotta inhale it. You know what's good for asthma? Pussy. Stank of pussy. That too. What? Weed.
Starting point is 01:18:54 See, I wish I could smoke right now, but I just don't know what would happen. I gotta drive. You'd freak out. Panic. Yeah. Yeah, you'd go into a tailspin. We'd have to pull you out of the corner. Are you allowed to do that with Xanax though? How does that work if you're taking Xanax?
Starting point is 01:19:06 I don't know because I never, I mean, Xanax is a tranquilizer. Oh, you might stop breathing. You know what Xanax feels like? Xanax feels like
Starting point is 01:19:15 what you would think normal people feel like. Normal. It's not a high. It's just, I mean, I never take it enough to get high,
Starting point is 01:19:20 but it's just like a relax, you know? Just do some Indica's. What's that? Indica's, the downer or the weed. Oh, is it? I'm sorry, there was an article that said that that's bullshit. I thought that was really interesting.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I didn't know that. That's always pretty established. Oh, really? There was some article that said that I don't know whether they're saying that the people that are selling it are full of shit, but they were saying that the two different highs are indistinguishable. And I was like, man, I don't know about all that. Sounds like a bullshit article.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Well, it seems like you're not getting high enough to really. You'd have to do it and get a. It's like a sommelier can tell the difference between Merlots and Cabernets like right off the bat. They can just tell. I can't tell. I can't tell. I don't know what the fuck the difference is. I had no idea there was a pot that was a downer. Well, that's what most people think of for pot.
Starting point is 01:20:12 They think of OG Kush. They think of, like, weed that just makes you chill, dog. It really just makes you just really not give a fuck, just kick back back and just your eyelids get heavy and then this pot for me at least that makes me like really think about shit and really get introspective and break down my life and life itself and the city and universes and shit like that that's that to me whatever it is whether it's uh the different cannabinoids or the different strain or whatever the fuck it is, there's a different response I have to two different kinds of weed. Absolutely. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong about it. Maybe I'm wrong about the way the mechanism is working. I just know when I get good stuff. Well, what fucked me up was I had no idea that it took a while to hit you. Xanax? No, pot. So when I first smoked, this is why I had such a bad experience,
Starting point is 01:21:08 I just kept smoking joint after joint. Like, you know, in a half an hour. I smoked, like, I don't know, three or four joints. It was just like, you know. Oh, my God. And these guys are going, holy shit, look at him. And I'm thinking, and I did this with Southern Comfort once, and I almost died from alcohol poisoning.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Because I just, like, I I just like, you know, it's like getting the crowd behind. Where were you? The pot? Yeah. I was at the University of Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:21:31 We had an apartment down there in Philly and just with a bunch of guys fucking around. Whose pot was it? I don't know. It wasn't mine. I, you know.
Starting point is 01:21:39 So somebody else brought the pot. Yeah. And then you just started smoking up a storm. Well, I had never smoked and then I just kept smoking and this was like, really like a lot of smoke. I don't know, just started smoking up a storm. Well, I had never smoked. And then I just kept smoking. And this was really like a lot of smoke.
Starting point is 01:21:48 I don't know. And that's why I think I got so fucked up. Of course it is. Everything. Like the record. This is when their album's out. And I remember watching the record revolve and just getting lost in that. What was the song that was playing?
Starting point is 01:22:01 It was Tomorrow Never Knows. It was a Beatles song and turn off your mind relax and float downstream you know that song yeah it is not dying whatever and uh and that was real psychedelic kind of song anyway i was like oh fuck i thought my head felt smaller you know just everything was weird so that's why I had a bad experience. That's why I want to try it again. So did you get paranoid? Yeah, very.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Very paranoid. Do you remember specifically what you thought about? Just the whole world looked different to me. And see, the only time I was ever... I had gotten fucked up on cough medicine in high school. Did you ever do that? I did cough medicine when I was an adult. I took NyQuil once when I was sick and it was one of the happiest days of my life.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Really? No, this was like, I drank a whole bottle of Romel RCF. I swear to you. I mean, I, that was, I think that's why, uh, up any kind of upper drugs have had negative effects on me because of that. And then I did the pot. And so that's why I never did them. I never was against drugs. Well, that seems like a very likely scenario. If you smoke that much pot the first time you did it, you're going to freak the fuck out. Nobody told me.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Nobody told me. They were going, wow, look at him. And I was like, oh, yeah. Look, one hit. That's all you need. Just one. Not even a big one. Not even a big one. Not even a big one.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Just a tiny one. Just to really feel what pot does, you want a tiny amount of it. That way you distinguish it from regular consciousness. You fuck around with it, get a feel for it, see the good and the bad about it. And occasionally you're going to push it. Occasionally you're going to smoke two hits and three hits, and then you're going to feel weird as fuck, and you're going to go, you know, me better back this down. So we back this down, take it down to one again, bring it down to one, and just try
Starting point is 01:23:55 one for a while. But when people start smoking a whole joint or two joints, that's like you've never ridden a motorcycle before and you get on one of those ninjas. Right, right. You know, just go ahead those ninjas, you know, just go ahead, gun it. You know what?
Starting point is 01:24:08 You can't do it. But those guys who do it every day can do it. Yeah. It's a similar thing in a way because it's the experience of being really, really high is manageable. Say if you're a guy like Everlast, you know, if you get high all the time and you're just a naturally cool dude that can
Starting point is 01:24:22 deal with shit. But if you're a guy who's never gotten high before like that can fucking be terrifying it was terrible terrifying it was it was terrifying what were you thinking about when you said the world just didn't look the same uh just the proportions of things look different you know like as if i was as if my eyes were different lenses they changed you know you know, for a while. And, you know, I would just get a thought in my head. Like even in the song, we keep playing in my head when it was over, you know.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Wow. It was pretty heavy. I mean, I guess it was close to a trip, you know. Wow. Yeah, that sounds like what I go through every night. Sounds like a typical day. I went through that in the tank last night. You went to what?
Starting point is 01:25:08 I went through that in the tank last night. Did you do the tank? Yeah, yeah. Joe, you're unbelievable. You're so funny. You got so many fucking varied interests and all. I watched SportsCenter last night. That's what I did.
Starting point is 01:25:19 But that's you. We're all different, Don Marrera. I'm just trying to maintain and not go off the rails into crazy town. So what do I do? I hunt boars and I lie in salt water. Typical. I throw kettlebells around just trying to keep it together. You got a fight this week?
Starting point is 01:25:35 No, this week is a new UFC. This weekend, I already said I'm going boar hunting. The next UFC is not until the week after that in Chicago on Fox. I'll tell you, thanks again for the Montreal treat. Did you enjoy it? More than enjoy it. Tammy Pascatelli and I, what a fucking, I mean, that guy, like, the excitement. I could just imagine, like, the gladiators, the Roman Empire.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Like, the excitement in that room when that French-Canadian guy walked in. George St. Pierre? Yeah. Oh, my God. And then the fight itself was great. Yeah, those live events there's something special like seeing
Starting point is 01:26:07 seeing the UFC live there's very few things that have as much electricity in the air as much potential drama and while the fights are going on they're so exciting
Starting point is 01:26:17 it's so exciting and you know you invited me to a couple of them and I was so amazed at how classy the crowd is
Starting point is 01:26:24 it ain't like professional wrestling crowd. Skate on his face, twist his other eye. I mean, they're like really nice people. They look wild, but they're not. Well, I always hoped that it would go closer and closer towards the ethics of martial arts because I think that if you looked at the best guys ever, the best UFC fighters are martial artists from Hoyce Gracie, the original,
Starting point is 01:26:50 to look at like Liotta Machida or Anderson Silva or George St. Pierre. Did Silva broke his leg? Anderson broke his leg, yeah, in the last fight. These guys are martial artists. Like Anderson bows before every match.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Liotta Machida bows. George bows. are they're literally upholding the original codes of Martial arts conduct. I mean they are martial artists and those are the best guys It's not these brawler fuck you spit in your face kick all those guys. Those guys are not the champions the champions adhere to this sort of philosophy and principle of excellence that I think you kind of have to have. And the people that are attracted to that, there's going to be a bunch of knuckleheads in the audience. I mean, it's unavoidable. You get 18,000 people, you're
Starting point is 01:27:36 going to get a few dozen crazy people for sure. There's no way around it. Of course. You get that in any game, baseball. But overall, I think that what the fighters project, that they project a level of respect, a level of discipline and dignity, that the audience, I think they take that in. I think they appreciate it. Whereas when you're watching the WWE, you know that it's scripted. It's a wild, crazy event, and it's fun, and it's entertaining,
Starting point is 01:28:03 and there's acrobatics and you know those guys like they're real the rock is a serious athlete so is brock lesnar he's a serious athlete brock lesnar was pretty successful in the ufc for a guy that didn't have any mma fights to speak of other than one before he entered into the biggest stage on earth as a fighter wow i mean he's a ballsy motherfucker yeah you know so no disrespect to the wrestlers or anything like that but one of the reasons why the audience will act like that is because they could feel that it's not real. It's all horseshit. They're trying to suck excitement out of the air. But don't you think there's certain people that believe it's real, no matter what you tell them? 100%. I talked to a guy from Abu Dhabi who was
Starting point is 01:28:40 telling me that his friend absolutely believes that it's real and he cannot argue with him that it's not. And he was so frustrated he didn't know what to say. My doctor thinks all professional football is rigged. Really? I go, how the fuck can they get to all these guys? Oh, that's hilarious. He says, I'm listening. He goes, you're going to tell me that Brady couldn't throw a pass?
Starting point is 01:28:59 And I go, I don't know, but how do they get to the center? How do they get, you know, it's like, it becomes a point where it's just paranoia. Some people don't like the wool pulled over them, you know, pulled over their eyes. So they like to look for it in everything. Oh, these motherfuckers are all in together. Yeah, right. After UFCs, all the time I'll get tweets like,
Starting point is 01:29:17 yeah, you know, it's a fucking fixed fight. Yeah. That was a bullshit fight. That fight's fixed and you know it. Well, fights can be fixed. I mean, fights can be fixed. They certainly can. Fights can be fixed, basketball games with refs or a guy who misses foul shots at the end.
Starting point is 01:29:30 But when you get to a whole fucking football team, that's 22 guys plus refs. I mean, come on. Well, the thing about basketball is they have absolutely proven that referees have been involved. Oh, yeah. They've proven that they've shaved points. They've proven that peoplees have been involved oh yeah they've they've they've proven that they've shaved points yeah they've proven that people have done there's a guy who
Starting point is 01:29:49 just got out of jail for that yeah the referee right yeah and i had a friend who um who was a ref but they did this i thought it was so classless they would get first class tickets and sell them back get cash them in and get coach tickets and pocket the money. Uh-huh. That's kind of fucking low life. That's kind of sleazy. Yeah. That's, you know, it's not living your life either. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:30:11 Yeah, just sit in first class. Fuck it. You know, you didn't have the ticket before. But I think you should be allowed to do it. I don't see a problem with it. I feel like if you're the one who wants to sit and coach and you would rather have the money, I feel like you should be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I just think it's a lack of class, though. It's a little sleazy. But, no, you know what? I take that back. I don't even think it's a little sleazy. It's like some people like to be humble. I take umbrage with you, Joe Rogan. How dare you, Irera.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Some people don't mind coach. What if he's a little tiny guy and gets a window seat and you just kind of curl up? I mind coach. You do? You do. Oh, I don't say he can just kind of curl up. I'm mind coach. You do? You do. Oh, I don't say coach. See, so for you it drives you crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:48 My feet can't go back there anymore. Can't do it. It's the only thing about, I just don't give a fuck. I always fly for, I paid more for my ticket to Australia than I made.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I did. I did. I worked two weeks. I made less money. I just didn't give a fuck. I wanted to fly for his club. That's hilarious. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:31:06 That's hilarious. That is a total Dom Irero move. Oh, my agent gets such a kick out of it. Oh, that's so funny. Well, that's, but again, I hate to say this, but that really is why you're so funny still. It's like, you know, we were just talking about it the other day, me and Tripoli. We were talking about how a lot of comics that we liked back when we started, you know, we were just talking about it the other day, me and Tripoli. We were talking about how a lot of comics that we liked back when we started, you know, they kind of sort of drift away from it. You know, like even the greats.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Like look at Steve Martin. He doesn't do stand-up anymore. He stopped a long time ago. You know, Robin Williams like will occasionally do stand-up, you know. But you think about the people that you really admired back then. It's not that many of them that you uh really admired back then it's not that many of them that are like really active still yeah but the ones that are like a lot of times they change radically like their acts change they they kind of drift away from whatever it was
Starting point is 01:31:56 that made them good they just sort of get this weird sense of complacency or something like that i don't know what happened and also you they run out of juice, you know. Exactly. To me, I consider myself the oldest young comedian. You know what I mean? I really don't feel old. I feel young and I feel, and I'm lucky that I hang out with guys a lot younger than me. I absorb that energy, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:32:17 Right. You know, you included. I mean, it's just that I love being around that because I find that, not to put my generation down, but a lot of them are fucking bitter and bitterness goes nowhere. Yeah, exactly. It's just like the unnecessary anger, yelling out and smacking your stick on the ground.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Yes, exactly. Internalize it. Figure out what is it that makes you bitter. You're unhappy with your success. Well, do something about it. Barring your physical health and unforeseen circumstances that can't be controlled, most people have a little leeway room for improvement. And the bitterness is not fucking helping you.
Starting point is 01:32:51 This fucking guy. You're telling me this guy deserves a sitcom? Oh, yeah. I tell you, this guy, I middled for him in Cincinnati. He could not follow me. Yeah, remember Pat Cooper? Yeah. The comedian.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Yeah. He was thinking, you know, I like the guy, but he's really angry. He was telling me, he's thinking I'm too stupid to realize what he's doing. He's going, these fucking kids today, these cocksuckers, they got five minutes, they got a sitcom. I've been around 40 years, but you're a good kid. You know, he'd throw like that, like that's supposed to pique my interest. And I don't have a fucking sitcom. I go, well, maybe that should tell you something.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Maybe you're not right. That guy was an interesting guy. Is he still around? Yeah. I mean, he can't hear anymore, so it's kind of tough. Oh, that sucks. He used to go on Stern and rant and rave and go fucking crazy and yell at people. It's just like, oh my
Starting point is 01:33:37 God, listen to him get wound up. But there's an element of sadness in it. It's an element of... He burns a know yeah it's an element of like burns a lot of bridges some of those guys he got mad at the sopranos you know what did he get mad at the sopranos for i don't know they didn't give him big enough parts or some shit they didn't get you know whatever it was it's like you know i mean i love that rite of passage for italians that we were all supposed to be in the sopranos what the fuck they only got they got a cast of
Starting point is 01:34:04 like 20 people there's a lot more italians you the fuck? They only got a cast of like 20 people. There's a lot more Italians, you know. Well, I think there was a lot of people in that show that also had not really done a lot of acting before, like Stevie Van Zandt, little Steven from the Bruce Springsteen band, and Steve Scharippa, our friend. Yeah, I mean, our buddy.
Starting point is 01:34:19 But what it was, Joe, was they had a core of real actors, and they had types. Right. And some of the types, like like Steve developed into real good actors you know but I mean that's what the show was it was the core of Edie Falco and you can Daphne and Michael and Perry all yeah those guys and then they that's the way they cast it yeah but I think what the appeal was one of the appeals was that these
Starting point is 01:34:42 people that were in these peripheral roles that really shined and benefited from it greatly, like our friend Steve Sharippa. Steve was not like an experienced actor. He was booking the Riviera when we met him. Yeah. He's a great guy. I fucking love that guy. Oh, yeah. But he went from doing that to being a really successful actor.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Boom, like that. But a hard worker, too. Absolutely. He capitalized on it. Well, he's smart. Steve's a very smart guy. successful actor boom like that but a hard worker too he absolutely capitalized on it and he you know well he's smart steve's a very smart guy so but my point is that other people saw that and go look this fucking guy he was over he wasn't even fucking doing this right people jealous of me yeah i wasn't blown but tommy i could do such a much much better detailed job with that role
Starting point is 01:35:21 forget about it i was i sounded like a little bit of quincy i was like half italian and i was half quincy you left your fingerprints now you sound like dice oh i'm morphing i'm a bunch of fucking characters over the top oh speaking of dice i saw blue jasmine did you see blue jasmine the new witty allen film witty allen fascinates me man he's fucking fascinated Speaking of dice, I saw Blue Jasmine. Did you see Blue Jasmine? No. The new Woody Allen film? Woody Allen fascinates me, man. Oh, yeah. He's fucking fascinating. He's the reason I got into stand-up. Really?
Starting point is 01:35:50 Yeah, when I was a little kid. He makes a new movie basically every year. He's fucking unbelievable. He writes them all himself, and they're fucking good. This Blue Jasmine was a good movie. He's one of the guys. I mean, I think he's a creeper, for sure. I mean, that whole thing with his daughter was just...
Starting point is 01:36:07 I don't want to judge. I'm trying to be a nice guy, but... I don't think he looked at her as a daughter. I don't know what happened. Whatever. Whatever. I have no idea. You know what? You gotta admire him for she's not even hot. You can't say he left his wife for a hot young chick. She's fucking homelier than
Starting point is 01:36:23 his wife. Oh, I guess. But she's young. It's different. Anyway. You're telling me. Yeah. What was I saying? About Woody Allen.
Starting point is 01:36:33 So his movie. So I saw, this is how I got my Woody Allen resurgence. I saw Midnight in Paris. Did you see that one? Yeah. It's fucking good. It's a good movie. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:36:42 You know what you got to see, though? Some of the old Love and Death. Check it out, because the fucking jokes are hilarious. Well, I think I have seen it. About the Russian-French War? I don't remember what it was about. I saw it a long time ago. I saw Sleeper.
Starting point is 01:36:59 I saw Annie Hall. Yeah. I've seen a lot of his older work. Sleeper's the orgasmatron. In Love and Death, Napoleon says to Diane Keaton, he goes, how do you think of me as a man? She goes, I think it's your best bet. These kind of jokes.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Oh, what a great line. Line after line. Another one she goes. I think it's your best bet. I think it's your best bet as being a man. She goes, you have beautiful skin. She goes, yes,. It's your best bet. Your best bet is being a man. You have beautiful skin. She goes, yes, and it covers my entire body. Well, Midnight in Paris was really good.
Starting point is 01:37:34 And what's interesting about it is that Owen Wilson plays Woody Allen. Oh, wow. Woody Allen can't play Woody Allen anymore. Yeah, yeah. He used to get the. So Owen Wilson is acting like Woody Allen. Oh, he's doing that? Great, great. Well, he's doing that?
Starting point is 01:37:45 Great, great. Well, he's not going New York-y. He's not going all the way Brooklyn. But he's basically that guy, this sort of nebbish-y. His wife is fucking around on him. In Woody Allen's movies, someone always is having an affair right under somebody's nose. And there's chaos, and you find out, well, you were fucking this guy right in the other room. I mean, get over it. It's not that big a deal.
Starting point is 01:38:08 The way that people behave is almost like as if he wishes that that would be how people would behave at all sexual indiscretions. It's almost like he's flavoring the world with this dialogue. To get him off the hook. Yeah, because it's a very unnatural,
Starting point is 01:38:23 like the anger and reaction these people have. It's like everything is real except when it comes to like real emotions dealing with loss or infidelity like then it becomes like well get over it i was right there right you you had to know i didn't know you know okay harry i was cheating you know it's like one of those things and the guy's like i can't can't believe this. And he leaves, but it's so unrealistic. It's like everybody's like, whatever, get over it. But in Blue Jasmine is another one, the Alec Baldwin character. I don't want to give a spoiler alert, but the reason why I brought it up is Dice is really good in it. He's really good.
Starting point is 01:38:56 He plays this. I heard it was good, but I heard it was really short. I like him short. That's the reason why he didn't probably get any awards, because it was probably too short. Oh, his thing was short. The movie was too short? No, no, no. His role. Like he didn't probably get any awards because it was probably too short oh his thing was short the movie was too short no no no
Starting point is 01:39:06 his role like he should have had a bigger part in it no no I think it was perfect I mean it was a complex sort of a role it was believable
Starting point is 01:39:15 there was a lot of there was a lot of good acting in that goddamn movie Cate Blanchett the woman who's the lead is fucking sensational you know Sean Penn yes
Starting point is 01:39:24 yeah he said to me one night, we're at the Improv, and he's got a great memory for comedy. He said he remembered an old bit, and he starts telling me about it. And I go, all right, if we're going to talk about comedy, you've got to tell me what it was like to work with Woody Allen. He said, I'm glad you asked me that. He gave me one note the whole film.
Starting point is 01:39:40 I said, what was it? He goes, that last scene you did, nothing was right. Wow. That's the only fucking scene you did, nothing was right. Wow. That's the only fucking note he had. Nothing was right. Nothing in that scene was right. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Well, he's a master filmmaker. He's just a weird guy. He's a genius. Master filmmaker. This Boo Jasmine movie is fucking really good. I have to say, he's the best writer and then Larry David for comedy, in my opinion. You mean like joke writing or TV writing? Just comedy writing.
Starting point is 01:40:10 TV writing. Just comedy. Movie and film. Larry obviously has not made the graduation to film like what he did. He shouldn't. His stuff is so good and Curb Your Enthusiasm. Just don't fuck with it. Leave it right there.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Let him do whatever the fuck he's doing. Let him make that exactly how he's making it. Don fuck with it. Leave it right there. Let him do whatever the fuck he's doing. Let him make that exactly how he's making it. Don't touch it. Leave it alone. I watched a Seinfeld episode last night with the man's ear, the bra for men. Remember that one? Right, right.
Starting point is 01:40:34 The bro. And I had a prostate exam, and when I was going to pee next, it was going to be blood, right? Right. It was really fucking horrible. I was light to pee next, it was going to be blood, right? Right. It was really fucking horrible. I was lightheaded and shit. And Jerry was on the phone telling me about this episode before it happened,
Starting point is 01:40:54 and we were fucking crying and laughing. Just the idea of Jerry Stiller's tits made us laugh for fucking five minutes. I'm confused. What has to do with you peeing blood? Oh, because I didn't want to laugh. You know what I'm with you peeing blood? Oh, because I didn't want to laugh. Oh. You know what I'm saying? I didn't explain it right.
Starting point is 01:41:08 I didn't want to laugh. I come back from the hospital. I'm in this bad mood. I'm fucking lightheaded and all pale and shit. And we start talking, and he starts telling me about this fucking... Anyway, it just reminded me of it because I saw the episode last night.
Starting point is 01:41:19 And it's so fucking brilliant. You know, the way he... Yeah. Like, say, Everybody Loves Raymond, which was, like, a really standard, like, good-quality sitcom. They had an A-plot, basically, maybe a B-plot. Seinfeld had A, B, C, D.
Starting point is 01:41:33 You know what I mean? Just ridiculous. Like, Kramer hits a golf ball, and it goes into the whale's blowhole. And, you know, like, you know what I mean? Like, everything is connected. And how he did it was fascinating. And 22 minutes and clean.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Yeah. No, Larry David's a genius. Yeah. But his best work is Kirby Enthusiasm, in my opinion. Seinfeld's really good, but Kirby Enthusiasm takes it too. The one where he had the water bottle in his pants. I don't even want to tell the whole story. The hooker and the carpool.
Starting point is 01:42:00 I can't even tell you the stories. Well, you know, that came out of Larry. I don't want to spoil them. That came out of Larry not getting enough credit for Seinfeld. I really believe that. Because everybody would get credit. George got credit for playing him. And, you know, Jason Alexander is a terrific actor.
Starting point is 01:42:13 But he was so much in the background, he thought, fuck this, I'm doing a show. And he had the power to do it. You know, he put up his own money for that. Jason Alexander's a weird one. Because nothing's really clicked for him since doing that show. He was so fucking good, too. He was so good on that show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:28 And now he's taken to wearing a hairpiece. I know. And, you know, I saw the one last night where he wore a hairpiece. On a show. As a joke. As a joke, yeah. But now he's wearing one in real life. That's sad.
Starting point is 01:42:38 It's like, I don't know. Unless you're going to do it like Carl Reiner did where you just take it off sometime and wear it like it's a hat, which I think is funny. He's not trying to fool anybody. Well, he's not trying to fool anybody. He can't, because everybody knows that he was already bald, and I think he just likes the way it looks better, which is good for him. But why are you worrying so much about what you look like? It's a little weird. I say just wear a hat or don't wear anything.
Starting point is 01:43:00 It's not like it affects his performance in some way. If growing your hair made you smarter somehow, imagine if hair was like muscles. The bigger your muscles get, the stronger you get. The longer your hair gets, the smarter you get. Well, I could get wanting to have more hair. Yeah. And if you could wear a toupee that would make you smart. Imagine if people were that simple, that you just had a fiber optic toupee and you put on. It would mimic the effects of having a full head of hair as far as your intelligence goes or grow it even further well you never when you remember what goes on
Starting point is 01:43:28 with the ego of these guys you know yeah and jason was i remember being on that set and he was upset because he never won an emmy oh god he won grammy awards dude i was on a set of news radio once and everybody was complaining it was so dark it was like everybody was bummed out because our ratings were down, and it was like, God, we can't get on Thursday night, but this show goes on right before Friends or right after Friends and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I remember thinking, like, we're on a sitcom. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:59 You know how lucky you are to be on a sitcom? And it's a really funny one, and we're not appreciating it as it's happening like right as it's going on we're wishing we were number one right instead of whatever the fuck we were we weren't doing well like news radio never did well it didn't do really well until it was syndicated they didn't know how to use you at all news radio did oh i got some great parts i think they i think you they could have used you more oh I that's very nice of you that's just because you love me I think they used me
Starting point is 01:44:27 the perfect amount and when you consider the fact that we had so many characters I mean there's Andy, Dick Vicky, Louis Steven, Root Candy, Alexander Phil, Hartman
Starting point is 01:44:35 Dave, Foley Maura, Tierney I mean holy fucking shit yeah that's a lot you're right it was an 8 person cast a lot of fucking people a 22 minute show
Starting point is 01:44:43 and you're bouncing everything back and forth. And you got two, well, three monsters on the cast. You got Phil Hartman, who's a monster, Dave Foley, a monster, and Andy Dick was a monster. So those were like their go-to guys for carrying scenes and big moments. And I would come in with something wacky on occasion. I would have some wacky thing that I would do.
Starting point is 01:45:02 I thought they were great about divvying it up. The one who got the slight, in my opinion, is Candy Alexander, the black chick that was on the show. She's a badass actress, man. That girl is a powerful,
Starting point is 01:45:14 strong actress. And I just don't think they ever really totally got her. I don't think she had enough roles where it was like, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:45:23 a bunch of white dudes from Harvard right for this sexy black chick. What was the baseball show you know, a bunch of white dudes from Harvard. Yeah, right. Right for this sexy black chick. What was the baseball show you did right before that? Hardball. Hardball. That piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Yeah, but that was cool. You got it right away. I got lucky. That's for sure. The two things that were the luckiest that I ever got was getting hardball and from getting hardball, getting news radio. You know, the Fear factor thing was uh more of a response to not wanting to be in the acting world anymore you know when i took fear factor for
Starting point is 01:45:50 the money a but also b because i knew it wasn't i didn't i wouldn't have to deal with actors i wasn't going to have to deal with scripts and the creative aspect of bad comedy because you go from a show like news radio which is a really good show, try finding another really good show. Good luck. Oh, I know. I've been on them. And I read from some. They were just, it was painful.
Starting point is 01:46:12 They were bad. Just clumsy and clunky. Joe, I got fired from a show that was written for me. And I couldn't play. And it was so, you know, I was so happy when it went down in flames because it was so bad. They hired like this real actor's guy, Dan Hedaya, and he couldn't make it work. Dan Hedaya.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Why do I know that name? He was the father in Clueless. He was Cher's father in Clueless. Oh, wow. But would you do another sitcom? Yeah, definitely. If Paul Sims was going to do another sitcom, the guy who made News Radio. I almost did another one of his.
Starting point is 01:46:44 I'd love to work with you, man. I did a pilot of a show called Overseas. It was a pilot. I played some guy that was in some other country for some strange reason. I got stuck over there. But he's just a brilliant guy. He's just such an out-of-the-box guy.
Starting point is 01:46:59 I know there's other out-of-the-box guys out there. I think the guy who, what's his name, Dan Horman, the guy who makes Community? Like, everybody's saying that Community is just, like, a hundred times better this season now that he's back. That he's back and Chevy Chase is gone. Yeah, Chevy Chase. Yeah, that was the other thing. He's a happy-go-lucky guy, huh?
Starting point is 01:47:15 Yeah, he doesn't seem so, huh? What's the guy's name? The Soup? Joel McHale. Joel McHale. Sorry. Great guy, too, by the way. I feel like a dick not remembering your name
Starting point is 01:47:27 but I blame the weed Joel McHale was on Opie and Anthony and he was talking about Chevy Chase and he just really didn't want to be there how do you get insulted
Starting point is 01:47:34 at your own roast you get insulted at your own roast it's a roast you have to they're going to say things that are supposed to hurt your feelings exactly
Starting point is 01:47:41 that's why you don't get a roast do you like don't organize your own do I like them I liked them when I did them you don't get a roast. Do you like Burnt Stone? Don't organize your own. Do I like them? I liked them when I did them. I did them with the real old guys. I was the young kid, and it was Milton Berle and all those guys in the 80s. I liked them because they were the real originators of the roast.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Now, how much can you talk about how big Chloris Leachman's cunt is? You know what I mean? It's like how far- How often does that come out? Is that a big part of roasts? Yeah. Now, for the mandatory, how big is Chloris Leachman's cunt is. You know what I mean? It's like, how far... How often does that come up? Is that like a big part of roasts? Yeah. And now for the mandatory, how big is Chloris Leachman's cunt? Actually,
Starting point is 01:48:10 it came up about fucking 20 times when I went to see Pamela Anderson roasted, I think it was. Or no, maybe it was her or Saget, I forget. I always get those two mixed up.
Starting point is 01:48:23 And they just relentlessly did the same fucking joke. You could drive a car into Pamela Anderson's cunt and this is it. I forget. I always get those two mixed up. And they just relentlessly did the same fucking joke. You could drive a car into Pamela Anderson's cunt. That's so not true. I've seen that video. The Tommy Lee video. It's a tiny little thing. What kind of cars are you driving? I can't jerk off to a video like that.
Starting point is 01:48:40 No? Is the stick too big? Well, no. Just a married couple that I don't want to... I, that's so sweet. I want to see people that are, you know, like, out of this world. Mm-hmm. Not real people. Like our prostitute friend. I haven't been with a prostitute in a while.
Starting point is 01:48:54 How long? A couple days? What time is it? No, I took blood pressure medication about two years ago, and it made me, like we were saying, it made me less Italian and more Irish. Do you think that you would ever be into doing something to radically change your health? Like if someone, if you took on like someone who told you what to eat, worked you out every
Starting point is 01:49:16 day, put you through the paces, got your body into a better shape, better condition, and actually got you to- How the fuck could I get in better shape, Joe? It's almost impossible. I mean, you're at the top. I'm like an Olympian. But I feel like we're going to like... We could polish it up a little bit.
Starting point is 01:49:31 You could fine-tune it. Fine-tune it a little bit. A little bit. No, where I am, I'm totally fucking pleased. I love having a gut. Because I got something to rest my hands on when I'm thinking. You have my favorite line ever when it comes to being gay and being in the closet. You go, I wish I was in the closet just so I could come out.
Starting point is 01:49:54 That's how little I give a fuck. That was just a line for the show. I never did that on stage. He said, I wish I was gay just so I could come out of the closet. Something exciting. Look at Todd Glass. He got more press on that. Fucking Ellen, it made her career.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Well, I'll tell you what. When Todd Glass came on the podcast, that was the first time I had talked to him in person since he came out, I guess you're supposed to say. He seemed so relieved. And he was so relieved that he could come on the show and be barbecued. He was so relieved that we could all do that together and be giggly
Starting point is 01:50:23 and silly and he wouldn't have to worry about feeling like he's being attacked or that he was hiding something. That's a big thing for those guys, man. Or for those girls or anybody who's hiding something like that. No one should care, man. No one should care. You should be able to tell people that you're into dressing like a girl. You should be able to tell
Starting point is 01:50:40 people that you like to fuck guys. You should be able to tell people whatever the fuck it is. Who would make an uglier fucking girl than you or I? You. Me. I would be my fucking jaw. You would be a little bit uglier than me as a girl. Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:50:52 A little bit more confusing. You would be a little bit hotter chick than me. That's the way I like to think of it. But if I was going to go to a girl to get a hand job, I might go to you. Soft hands. I would think, yeah, soft hands. You got the lips, too. There's a lot of like, I'm not blowing anybody, though.
Starting point is 01:51:09 That's where I draw the line, even if I was a gal. Not even with condoms? But if I think, blowing someone with a condom is just like fucking shaking their hand through a window. You know? Come on. What's going on there? You know, you put your hand on the glass, you're not really shaking hands.
Starting point is 01:51:23 You know? Someone's just going up and down on your dick when there's a condom on it. I'm like, what is that? It's a strange, weird barrier between you and pleasure. And we need that because people have diseases in their mouths and their dicks. We're gross. People are gross or fucking gross diseases. There was this hooker.
Starting point is 01:51:42 She's a porn. I love the porn star fucking theory. Like everybody, you know, they never say, they say just he's a working actor. They don't say he's a star.
Starting point is 01:51:50 He's not a star. Anyway, she came up to me at the comedy store, gave me a hug. She goes, then she Facebooked me but my ex-wife
Starting point is 01:51:58 does my Facebook. Right. And she wrote, did I tell you this? Yeah, you did tell me. Okay. She came after me. She said she wanted to exchange sexual favors for comedy wisdom.
Starting point is 01:52:11 And my wife said, she goes, who is this? My ex-wife, she goes, who is this fucking nut? I just ripped it up and threw it out. No! She goes, she sounded like a whore. I go, but that's the good thing, right? Your ex-wife doesn't know you very well. No.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Anyway, she did get in touch with me. Yeah. But you know what? She was so fucking annoying about comedy, it turned me off. Really? Yeah, because she wanted way more comedy than I wanted anything from her. Well, when someone- And then I saw her in a lesbian video. When someone wants to learn how to do comedy, there's a few things you can tell them, but there's very few. The real thing
Starting point is 01:52:46 that they need to do is go on stage. Go on stage a lot and chop it down yourself. Minimize the amount of words you use. Maximize the impact of those words. Figure those things out. Find out what it is that's funny and unique about you. Listen to yourself. There's a few things you can tell someone.
Starting point is 01:53:02 When they want to go over individual bits with you, they basically want you to write their act. And that happens to a lot of boyfriends. I mean, there's a few things you can tell someone when they want to go over individual bits with you they basically want you to write their act and that happens to a lot of boyfriends i mean that's a it's a it's a joke that i've heard used on several different comedians that are female that wind up dating men that are also comedians and then start writing their acts i mean we know guys who have done it it happens all the fucking time and you know that's not as fun that's that's that's weird that's not as fun. That's weird. That's a weird game. But it's, see, but then there's cases like Tom Segura and Christina Pazitsky, where I'm sure they go over bits with each other.
Starting point is 01:53:33 But they go over bits as peers. You know what I'm saying? Like, Tom's not rewriting her act. She's not rewriting Tom's act. They're both hilarious. That's very rare, yeah. Yes, but that's ideal. You know, like, that's why I love when something like that happens,
Starting point is 01:53:45 because people always like to use that thing, that standby cliche that two comedians can never be husband and wife and be happy. Two people that are, you know, in the same position, the same sort of occupation, they would just wind up fighting each other. Tom and Christina get along great, and they're both fucking great. They're both really funny people.
Starting point is 01:54:06 They're like, you see them together, they're laughing together and they're always laughing with each other and like, they enjoy each other's company and they're both really good.
Starting point is 01:54:15 It's so rare when you see something like that. It's so awesome to see. Yeah, I think that's the aberration. I don't think it's normal. But it's possible. It's possible. It's totally possible.
Starting point is 01:54:23 That's what I like. I like that it's possible. That ruined my marriage. Yeah? The competition, yeah. Because I was getting hired for Saturday Night Live in 1980, and I got three episodes. It's a long story.
Starting point is 01:54:34 It's not even worth it. You sound like Brian Callen right now. Do I really? No big deal. I was just like the greatest comedian of all time. No, no, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant the story was too long. But anyway, I'm not on the like that. I just meant the story was too, I meant the story was actually too long.
Starting point is 01:54:46 But anyway, she would come, I'm not on the fucking show. And I'd come home, she goes, did you mention me to them? I go, I'm not, I said, don't mention you. I don't even have a fucking voice. I don't even have an agent.
Starting point is 01:54:56 You know, so that was, that really kind of ruined a lot of things. Yeah, that's rough. Ooh, did you mention me? I had a friend who got a part and his girlfriend started crying immediately. And it's like when is something gonna happen for me oh no it was it was so it was so uncomfortable to be around yeah that's it was she was doing it like in front of me and i was like okay uh she was
Starting point is 01:55:15 crying in front of you oh yeah yeah he he he goes guess what i got the part holy and she starts crying like when is something gonna happen to me i for some people, they're just not cut out for the pressure of, like, trying to audition and go after things. Like, one of the things that people point out is how crazy actresses are and actors are. But I think one of the reasons why they're so crazy is not just that they came here crazy, but that the process itself is so terrifying and mind-numbing and obsessive. Because it's so difficult to get cast in something, so difficult when you're competing against thousands of other people on a daily basis for a limited amount of roles,
Starting point is 01:55:53 and you're barely getting by, and then you finally do get something. I think all those years and years and years of rejection, I think you can really fuck with people's heads. Oh, yeah. It's really bad, especially when they're already a little bit insecure. They're already a little bit nutty. They're maybe possibly a little bit depressed, maybe a little bit chemical, you know?
Starting point is 01:56:12 Yeah. I just never felt like anybody else's success diminished me. Like, I don't think because Eddie Murphy got 48 hours that if he didn't get it, I was going to get it. Right. You know, I just never thought like that. No, you never did. You never had, and you've never had like this weird resentment that a lot of people have towards people that they have no relation to. You know, look at fucking this guy, you know, Damon Wayans, Damon Wayans. No.
Starting point is 01:56:35 He's a motherfucker. Damon Wayans ain't got shit. That's all he did. Damon Wayans. You know, why? What do you care about Damon Wayans? Is he in any way affecting your path? I mean, look at your career.
Starting point is 01:56:45 You have such a unique is redundant. But I mean, I could never fucking announce the fights like you do. You're an expert on that shit. There's no competition. Your stand-up and mine are so different. Hopefully the only end result is they're both funny. We're both very lucky. We're both very lucky. We're both very lucky
Starting point is 01:57:07 that we figured out our path in life. I'm in a weird spot where I'm extremely lucky because I like to do a lot of things. Yeah. And I get lucky
Starting point is 01:57:16 that there's a job for those things. If the UFC didn't exist, I would watch the exact, I mean, if the job rather, me being the commentator, didn't exist, if we just watched fights live and no one ever talked about it,
Starting point is 01:57:28 I would still be doing the same thing. I'd be doing the exact, almost. Yeah. I mean, I would, I would certainly wouldn't be breaking it down for a broadcast, but I'd be watching every single one of them. Right. I'd watch everything. I'd watch them live if I could.
Starting point is 01:57:39 I did before I even worked there. I just got super lucky. You can hear how happy you are doing that. You can hear it in your voice. You love it. Yeah, I do enjoy it. It's fun. But I'm just lucky. I'm lucky there's a lot of cool shit to do in the world. You know, martial arts is just one of many cool things. I mean, I could probably learn new things forever and ever and always be excited. Like skateboarding seems like it'd be fun. I just started learning how to ski. Skiing is fun. It's exciting. I mean, I bet it would be really fun
Starting point is 01:58:05 to learn how to play an instrument. You know, if I had more time, I'd probably pursue that. I started doing archery recently. I got these targets. I set them up in my backyard. I bought a Bowtech Experience 60-pound pole compound bow.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Oh, dude, it shoots things like a laser beam. It's amazing. Come on over. Come on over. Let's have a bow party. Please hide those from the kids. They can't touch it it and they can never pull it back in the first place. The arrows are locked up and the bow is so incredibly difficult to pull back. 60 pounds, a grown man like yourself, not like me
Starting point is 01:58:35 of course. I could just pull that bitch back. Is that for real? The really strong guys actually use a 70 pound bow. The guy in here yesterday was probably 20 pounds lighter than me. He actually uses a 70-pound bow. Guy in here yesterday was probably 20 pounds lighter than me. He actually uses a 70-pound bow. So he's using a bow that's 10 pounds stronger than mine. But I'm just learning how to do it now. I'm not really concerned with it being the fastest bow in the world. I just enjoy hitting targets.
Starting point is 01:58:57 I have these rubber squares set up at different parts of my yard, and I get up on this little platform in my yard. I get the dogs out of the yard, and I shoot up on this little platform in my yard, I get the dogs out of the yard, and I shoot arrows. It's fun, man. It's really exciting. It's like when you hit a target that you want to hit, whatever reason,
Starting point is 01:59:13 your body goes, ooh. It's more exciting than shooting a basketball into a net. Basketball into a net's always been exciting, like playing a horse. Three points, whoa! But a fucking 50-yard bullseye with an arrow, there's something like it goes to your DNA. It's some Robin Hood shit. It's left over.
Starting point is 01:59:33 There's some watermelons in the backyard. That sounds fun too. Yeah, but watermelons are food. I don't want to waste food. I feel guilty. It can't be wasted food, but I'll fuck up a squirrel that I catch slipping. I'll eat a squirrel that i catch from my backyard what do you think about that that rhino that that's in the knees fucked up
Starting point is 01:59:49 fucked up fucked up crazy ridiculous doesn't make any sense makes me sick i don't like the idea if you don't know the story there's a black rhino they auditioned they auctioned off a right to hunt this black rhino and the the bidder paid three hundred fifty thousand dollars to kill this endangered animal that's fucked up and because of that a million dollars is going to go to the preservation of the black rhino I think that's ridiculous I think that guy's an asshole I don't care if that money goes to the preservation what What this guy should do, if he's really concerned, this guy, this hunter, is go hunt with a camera, goddammit. Go get a really good close-up photograph of this thing
Starting point is 02:00:31 and know that you could have killed it. Know you could have killed it. You don't have to kill. And then while you're there, go shoot some shit that you can kill. You're in Africa. Go shoot some wild buck. Go shoot some warthogs. Go shoot some things that the locals will eat.
Starting point is 02:00:45 And then it actually benefits the people there. If go to africa like i i saw matt hughes who's a former ufc champion one of the greatest uh mixed martial arts fighters ever he's also a big hunter and he went to africa with his son and he took all these photos of them uh shooting these animals and people just were all up his ass they were just shitting all over him and telling, you know, he's an asshole and he's not even eating that food. These are trophy hunters. He shot so many animals. What they don't realize is when you go there and you do something like that, they take the money that you use to pay for your trip. And that money goes to preserve these animals.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Then the meat from hunting that animal goes to feed these local villagers. Like they get very happy. Like they're excited. They get all this lean, they don't have guns. And so they get all this lean protein free from these hunters and they get it every day because every day they're bringing in new hunters and every day they're harvesting new animals. Like people don't like it because they feel like it should be a direct relationship. You should shoot a deer, then you eat the deer or give some of the meat out to your friends or something like that, which I kind of agree with. I don't want to be the guy that's going somewhere to kill animals for a bunch of different people. But if you did, that's actually a very selfless thing to do. He's enjoying the hunting aspect of it, but he's also donating all this meat to poor people.
Starting point is 02:02:03 But nobody wants to see it that way everybody has this black or white thing when it comes to animals either you love animals and respect them and you don't shoot them or you hate animals and you're a fucking evil person even if you both have the same diet i mean the idea that someone would want to kill that thing when we know there's only like a few thousand of them left? That's fucking crazy. You know, I hope somebody steps in, and I hope, I mean, really, that's something that the president should talk about. The president should have a fucking joint conference where he talks about SeaWorld and killing black rhinos.
Starting point is 02:02:36 And just say, what would we do if someone came here from, look, they sawed off the horn. Oh, my God, that's fucked, man. You know why right yeah because chinese dudes think that it makes your dick hard on your pills they haven't figured out viagra yet i guess you know no way rhino horn is as good as viagra by the way you know what rhino horn is it's hair you're eating hair yeah that horn is hair it's thickly knotted hair that that grows into a point yeah it's not like an antler like this this deer antler here, this antler falls off every year.
Starting point is 02:03:08 And you find them on the ground. They're called sheds. And they grow every year. And then, you know, they butt heads with those things on. That's how they're used to spar. Well, that's not the case with a rhino. With a rhino, it's actually hair. It's like the same thing that fingernails are made out of.
Starting point is 02:03:21 It's like keratin. Kind of crazy shit, man. But the idea that anybody would pay to do that, like, don't do it, man. Don't fucking kill rhinos. These aren't in danger. Like, there's been an argument against killing elephants. But in certain areas of Africa where they have an overpopulation issue with elephants, and they've taken to assassinating elephants, they've taken to hunting them.
Starting point is 02:03:43 And it's really freaky because they're bringing in hunters. And there was a TV show on the other night where this guy went to Africa and just snuck up on an elephant and shot it in the fucking head. And it doesn't seem right. It seems fucked up. Did you ever play with ivory balls? No, no, never played with ivory balls. I did.
Starting point is 02:03:58 But they gave the food to the villagers. And they were saying it's a year's food for these people. Oh, that's cool. So, yeah, I guess. But there's something about elephants that freaks me out. Yeah. It freaks me out to kill elephants. Yeah, it's a year's food for these people. Oh, that's cool. So, yeah, I guess. But there's something about elephants that freaks me out. Yeah. It freaks me out they kill elephants. Yeah, it's like whales.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Yeah. To me, elephants are smart as shit. They recognize each other when they haven't seen each other in 20 years. Did you know that? Really? Yep. That's the whole memory thing then, huh? Yes.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Yeah. Yes. Well, they have really good minds. Their minds are much more complex than we ever thought. In fact, they can create art. You can teach an elephant to use a paintbrush and they can draw themselves really you've never seen that no oh my god wait do you see this i'm going to show you something you're not even going to believe it's real it's an elephant painting himself and when you see it and how good it is it's like what my five-year-old would do it's like a five-year-old human i don't
Starting point is 02:04:42 know if that represents like the same if that's the same intelligence as like a small child. But God damn it, it seems like there's something really serious going on behind the scenes there. They're able to draw themselves, Don Marrera. They're able to pull ahead because this is a long ass video. But look at this. He's using his, and you would think, okay, this is bullshit. This is fake. No, he really is.
Starting point is 02:05:05 He's using his own trunk, and he's trying to draw what he sees. Look at it. He's drawing tusks, Dommerer. He's drawing the legs. It's like perfect, like how he got it perfect. It's fucking incredible. Incredible. That's an intelligent animal.
Starting point is 02:05:21 And in my opinion, hunting that animal animal should be look how good that is god damn it that's insane that should be the last resort is this for real yes it's for real it should be the last resort when it comes to preserving these animals that that's that's ridiculous what they should do is figure out a way to either move them to areas where their populations have drastically decreased or find some way to give them some food that makes them less likely to get pregnant. I mean, who knows what strategies they could come up with, but shooting them seems really sad to me. Yeah, that's amazing. That's super smart. That's smarter than a wolf, okay?
Starting point is 02:06:02 That's unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, that's the argument against killing wolves, is that they're smart and they're very much like dogs. But that's way smarter than a fucking wolf. That's smarter than a monkey, man. That's smart as shit. How smart are these goddamn things? That's fucking cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:17 It's interesting to me. Look, watch him do it. This is not bullshit. Look him do it. See, now you can see the actual full elephant. Look at this. I mean, this is utterly incredible Utterly incredible It's amazing Wow
Starting point is 02:06:39 Yeah, I don't know man The relationship the relationship between... You gonna die? No. The relationship that we have between other animals is a very strained one. It's very strange how we... Because we have some animals that we use for food and some animals that we decide to use as a resource. And, you know, it's all very cruel.
Starting point is 02:07:02 I don't understand the rationalization sometimes between what animals you pick to kill to eat in the sense that people are pescatarians. What makes them think fish are happy to be on a hook? Well, the idea is that fish don't take care of their young. Oh, dolphins aren't fish. Yeah. Fish don't take care of their young, so they're like, fuck these fish. Look how good that is, Don Mera.
Starting point is 02:07:22 He drew fucking flowers in his trunk. It's insane It's insane. It's insane. How talented this elephant is a drawing I mean that's better than most people could probably draw now. I think if you kill that that that's murder Look at this look at this thing painting the sky man. Are you fucking shitting me? It's painting a word Jesus Christ shit in me it's painting a word jesus christ this is insane where's this at i don't know on youtube it's under uh if you guys want to see it it's under elephants painting elephants suda that's the remember name of him he's writing his name yeah he knows how to write his name i mean this is insanity you kill that thing that's murder that's that's like a that's like a big
Starting point is 02:08:02 giant person or something. That doesn't make any sense to me. Whatever that is, it doesn't make any sense to me. Mind-blowing. Mind-blowing. Unbelievably fascinating.
Starting point is 02:08:12 But to those villagers, one year's food. We just eat. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. I can't fucking believe that. It's hard to believe. Yeah. I think intelligent animals...
Starting point is 02:08:22 If I walk out of here and I hear you guys laughing... No. That's legit. I think intelligent animals. If I walk out of here and I hear you guys laughing. No. That's legit. It's intelligent animals. Intelligent animals are, in my opinion, we should treat them very differently than we treat everything else. Well, I never believed that animals couldn't think. I always believed.
Starting point is 02:08:37 They always said dogs don't think. It's just instinct. I don't buy that. No, animals fucking think, man. Of course they think. They just don't think as well as we do. So we like to say they don't think. Yeah. They're limited. I mean their their bodies are about survival and breeding survival and breeding and those are the only things they don't create culture
Starting point is 02:08:51 and we become ultra complex because we create culture and we because we have the ability to manipulate our environment so that's why we categorize dolphins in this weird gray area that allows us to enslave them because they can't create culture and because they can't manipulate their environment they don't have fingers yeah we don't see any evidence of their intelligence but meanwhile there's tons of scientific evidence of the fact that they can communicate with each other that they have a language they have dialects that they have family communities that they they recognize each other long distances that they pool together i mean it's there's it's an it's an intelligent thing that you're enslaving it's all i mean it's there's it's an it's an intelligent thing that you're enslaving it's all that is it's there's no ifs ands or buts about it it's a bad
Starting point is 02:09:29 argument whether it's an orca you know orcas are fucking even smarter than dolphins they're super intelligent animals it's it's madness it's madness it's total madness and when you see an elephant that can paint a fucking picture better than most of us in this room, what is that? That elephant paints better than you. That's the most phenomenal thing I've ever seen an animal do. It's incredible. It's incredible. Have you ever seen chimps spell their name?
Starting point is 02:09:54 Chimps can spell their name for candy. They teach them how to solve complex puzzles, and they give them candy. And then they can remember the order of things. They can count things from one to seven, one, four five six seven and they you know like the images will go blank and they'll remember which one was one which one was two and will they'll reveal like each individual make it flip over in order something that i would struggle with sure yeah locking up chimps is cunty too putting them in a zoo is stupid you know they should have them in an area where they live in the wild and observe them.
Starting point is 02:10:26 That's it. All this other stupid shit we're doing. Or even if they make enough wild that it seems wild to them. Yeah. Maybe. I mean, if you have a really large place. But like that lady in Connecticut that was living with one and it wound up biting her friend's face off. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:40 That is criminal negligence. I mean, that's no different than building bombs in your yard, and your friend comes over, and you blow your friend's face off. They're so fucking strong. Not just strong, but violent as fuck. And guess what she gave the chimp? Xanax. Really?
Starting point is 02:10:55 Yeah, she gave the chimp Xanax and wine. Bitch was crazy. She had this 200-pound murderous monster living in her house, this yoked- up super monster. He was in a cage, right? He was wearing a diaper. Yeah. I don't think he was in a cage.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Oh, I thought he was in a cage when he reached out for her. No, no, no, no, no, no. He lived in that. He wandered around. He did whatever he wanted to. But the woman was babysitting him. No. What happened was the woman's friend came over.
Starting point is 02:11:23 When the woman's friend came over, the chimp did not like the woman's friend. The woman's friend kept him from her, maybe. Maybe he thought of her as his girlfriend. So he just attacked and just ripped her apart. Holy shit. Look at the muscles on those fucking things. Are you kidding me, man? He's on it.
Starting point is 02:11:36 That looks like Husamar Palhares. But even more muscular. He's definitely on it. I could see him using kettlebells and battle ropes. The zombie ones. Chimps give zero fucks. That's definitely on it. I could see him using kettlebells and battle ropes. The zombie ones. Chimps give zero fucks. That's one of the scariest animals in the world if it's trying to get you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Because if they got a hold of you, like you might be able to even fight off a bear to the point where the bear decides, like, you're too crazy. Fuck it. I'll leave him alone. If the bear wasn't hungry, if it's a nutty bear. But a chimp is not going to let you win. You know? They're having a contest with you. And they gonna bite your fingers off they're gonna beat you senseless they're gonna pull your genitals off they'll pull your pants off
Starting point is 02:12:10 and bite your asshole they know how to hurt you they're smart I think it would be one of the most terrifying animals to have to face in an encounter yeah I'd probably take my chances with like something like a shark before a chimpanzee people have lived I mean shark before a chimpanzee. People have lived. I mean, people live in chimpanzee fights, too, but they get ripped apart. Sometimes people, they get rescued. It's usually in preserves that all this stuff happens, too, by the way. In the wild, it's very rare that a chimpanzee attacks a person.
Starting point is 02:12:37 But did you see that picture that I had on Twitter the other day of a jaguar that got killed with his bare hands? We don't make men like this anymore. It's an old black and white jade or motherfucker killed a jaguar with his hands bare hands. It says it's on my Twitter page It's just yesterday. Yeah, look at this motherfucker Carl Akeley I salute you you fucking savage of a man you real man. You make me feel weak as a bitch Look at that goddamn savage. He killed a leopard with his hands. That's how you know. That's how you know you can
Starting point is 02:13:10 hold up under pressure. When you're duking it out with a cat. That's a big cat too. It's not a big leopard. What do you think that weighs? 120? No, it's not that heavy. Does it say how he actually did it? That's like 70 pounds, 60, 70 pounds. Did he crack the neck? Look at it compared to his body. No, it doesn't that heavy. Does it say how he actually did it? That's like 70 pounds, 60, 70 pounds.
Starting point is 02:13:25 Did he crack the neck? You see how, look at it compared to his body. No, it doesn't say how he did it. At least I didn't read it. Look at it in relationship to his body. You know, it's a perspective thing. If you brought the head all the way down to the ground, the head is suspended about where his knee is.
Starting point is 02:13:40 It's hanging by its back feet. If you brought the head all the way to the ground, it really wouldn't even be as long as most of his upper body. Why was he even engaged with the animal? Most of his lower body, rather. Did he come after him? Yeah, attacked him. Jumped him, tried to eat him.
Starting point is 02:13:55 People have been selling, ever since I've been putting up pictures from trail cameras, people have been sending me trail camera photos of mountain lions that they catch in their yards or mountain lions that they catch in their yards or mountain lions that they catch near their house. A guy sent me one today from Florida of these two fucking muscular Florida panthers. You know, I've never seen a panther. Never seen a mountain lion?
Starting point is 02:14:16 No, I've seen mountain lions, but I've never seen a panther. Same animal. It's smaller though, isn't it? Maybe. Maybe it doesn't get enough food. I was in the Keys a couple weeks ago when we were talking about that because they had the signs up. Beware of them. Well, like most fucked up things in Florida, the population is growing. The population of fucked up people in Florida is growing.
Starting point is 02:14:35 The population of fucked up cats is growing. The population of alligators is growing. The population of bath salts abusers is growing. Florida is fucking crazy. And Dom Irer is going to be there this weekend ladies and gentlemen that can't be real segue now that's a segue i want to put that in my driveway just to scare the fuck out of people hey brian can we set up a gopro on the werewolf please oh yeah we do that yeah let's figure that out that's your next project that
Starting point is 02:14:57 is fucking terrifying for the werewolf i've got that every time i walk in here it bothers me do you see a picture of eddie bravo ed? Eddie Bravo Radio used the podcast studio the other night. Powerful Jamie stepped in, saved the day. Eddie Bravo's computer crashed, and Eddie called me up last minute. He's like, dude, I'm fucked. The podcast was in a half an hour, and my computer's crashed. So he came over and used this place. But when he did, he took all his clothes off and took a photo of him fucking the werewolf.
Starting point is 02:15:25 Pull that shit up. Eddie Bravo will commit to things in a way that very few people can. I love this fucking dude. He's so crazy. This is a total Eddie Bravo picture that he would send you. This epitomizes why I love this dude. This is one of the reasons why he got a job as a writer on The Man Show. And he probably was crazy.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Look how he's committing to it. He's screaming at the top of his lungs. All of his clothes are off. And he's banging the werewolf from behind. It would have been a little bit better if he had a little bit more of an angle so we could actually see his ass cheeks so we know he's really, really naked. He's so crazy, though. Look at him.
Starting point is 02:16:04 He's so silly i love that dude powerful lady bravo so uh yeah we're gonna let other people do it too so you know any all of our friends who do podcasts i know tommy wanted to use it at one point in time and duncan's gonna use it like whenever will they need to do shit on with cameras and what have you uh i think it makes this place more the merrier. I feel like the more good conversations we have in this place, I feel like it soaks into the walls. It's good energy, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:32 I love this fucking place. When I come here, I feel like I'm at home. I feel like this is our weird little portal to the rest of the world. I like the Laugh Factory, just for the comfort of being on a stage I'm comfortable on. Well, that's also a stage you performed at for like two and a half decades. Right. Right. That's a great place. Yeah. Since the late 80s. Yeah. Jesus Christ. That's even more, right? What is that? 46? 40? Yeah. Jesus Christ. No. Yeah. 46. 2014. Oh. 26, rather. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:05 I'd say I'm 46 is what I meant. I graduated in 85. I was 21. I was probably at the left factor, 89 and 90. Doing half talking and half adding my age in there. What year did we? If I was in 86, I was not 21. I was 21 in 88.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Joe, what year did we do full frontal comedy? I can't do comedy. I mean, I can't do math while you're talking to me. Oh, sorry. It's very complicated. Full frontal comedy? 93, I think. Did we? The one in Montreal? No, no. That was Danger Zone.
Starting point is 02:17:37 That was also Showtime, right? Yeah, I think so. I think it must have been 94 then. That's when Don Marrero and I became pool-playing partners. Wow. Oh, we met in Amsterdam Billiards. We first found out that we each played pool. That's right.
Starting point is 02:17:52 Total luck by chance. I was in town doing a gig. Dom was doing a gig. We wound up knocking some balls around together. And I said, you got a good stroke there, Mr. Irere. You got a better stroke, Rogan. You played pretty good, fella, for a comedian. You've got a better stroke, Rogan.
Starting point is 02:18:04 You play pretty good, fella, for a comedian. The All Comedians Pool League is you, Ari Shaffir, me, what's his name? Adam Farrar. Adam Farrar plays very good. Adam Farrar plays very good. Greg Fitzsimmons. Greg Fitzsimmons plays very good. There you go. That's good.
Starting point is 02:18:19 And what I was trying to think of is Craig Anthony. Craig Anthony from the movies? Or Anthony, shit. Craig Robinson? Craig Anthony. Craig Anthony from the movies. Or Anthony, shit. Craig Robinson? Craig Robinson. Why Craig Anthony? Who's Craig Anthony? The guy from Breakfast Club?
Starting point is 02:18:33 Someone's Craig Anthony. Why do I know that name? Craig Robinson from, yeah. Craig Anthony, a fighter? I don't know. Craig Robinson. Craig Robinson from This is the End. Did you see him in This is the End?
Starting point is 02:18:42 That's the latest move. He's on The Office, right? James Franco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good guy. Oh, he's a poet, Craig Anthony. You're thinking of the End? That's the latest move. He's on The Office, right? James Franco? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good guy. Oh, he's a poet, Craig Anthony. You're thinking of a poet. That's what it is. Yeah, Craig Robinson. Sorry, Craig. Craig's hilarious. He's a really good
Starting point is 02:18:53 pool player, too, apparently. Vinny Favarito can play, too. Yeah, yeah. Allegedly. I've never seen him, but I've heard he plays really good. Tried to hustle me. Oh! Too slick. No way. I'm not going to hustle Dom Herrera. It can hustle down my rear you don't have a gambling issue do you i love to gamble but i don't gamble much money i love gambling on football yeah it's fun admit the juice of it is a riot just adding a little spark to the game yeah and i'm talking like 50
Starting point is 02:19:19 bucks nothing that yeah i think that should be legal man oh it's so stupid bums me out that that's not i feel like you should be able to bet at any corner you know that should be legal, man Oh, it's so stupid It bums me out that that's not I feel like you should be able to bet at any corner There should be some sort of a way That you could Fucking regulate How it gets taxed Or where we can all meet and gamble on things
Starting point is 02:19:38 We should be able to bet against each other We should be able to put our money jointly into something And it gets deposited into either one of our accounts if we win. And the government takes a little piece off the top to make sure it gets taxed. And that's it. Let people gamble. You go to any police station and they have football pools. Yeah. Why not? What's wrong with that? Nothing.
Starting point is 02:19:55 And they shouldn't get in trouble for that either. It's fucking ridiculous. I'm telling Brian Dunning that I'm doing a podcast. Oh, is he here right now? Yeah. Anyway, that's it, Don Marrero.
Starting point is 02:20:10 That's it? We gotta wrap this bitch up. It was fun, man. It's always fun. You're my brother. We've been friends a long fucking time, pal. I know. I love that.
Starting point is 02:20:17 It's a great history. Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. We've had some good times. I still think I could beat you in a fight. I know you do, but that's because you're on Xanax.
Starting point is 02:20:25 And I'm, I wouldn't even in a fight. I know you do, but that's because you're on Xanax. And I wouldn't even fight back because I'm on pot. I love you, buddy. Love you, Joe. Thanks for having me on. If you're around next Wednesday,
Starting point is 02:20:34 we're doing an Ice House show. I'm in Knoxville. Knoxville, Tennessee. Boom. Anything you ever want me to tweet, brother, you know it.
Starting point is 02:20:41 I appreciate it. Just send it my way. My friends love you. The comedy people love you. The people that get a hold of me on Twitter, they're huge fans of Dom Herrera. One of the things they love most about the podcast is being introduced to all these great comedians. Oh, that's cool. Joey or Ari or you.
Starting point is 02:20:55 So it helps everybody. So more than happy to do it, my brother. Thanks, Joe. I'll talk to you. All right. Dom Herrera on Twitter. The two R's. I double R-E-R-A.
Starting point is 02:21:05 This is Dom Irera with one R. You fuck. You fucking fraud. There must be a guy who's... Mr. Irene. If there isn't a fake Dom Irera, they already put it together. Thanks to Squarespace. Go to squarespace.com.
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Starting point is 02:21:49 You know what? Fuck it. I'm going to throw in a Higher Primate T-shirt. How about that? How about that? You get a free Higher Primate T-shirt. I didn't have to do that. I saw a lot of those in Texas, man.
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