The Joe Rogan Experience - #494 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

Episode Date: May 1, 2014

Brendan Schaub is a mixed martial artist and also a former college & pro football player. Bryan Callen is an actor and stand-up comedian. Together with Brendan Schaub they "The Fighter & The Kid" podcast available on Spotify.

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! We love sizing you up. I know. Brian Callen, as he gets older, is getting more thin, more effeminate, more gay. We're out there talking about it while we're playing pool. There's no question.

He's talking about, I don't even like to eat food anymore. It's because your body is preparing you to become this waif-like older gay man. My sister looked at me and she goes, you know, you got a gay way to go out. She goes, because you look like one of those fish in a polluted lake. Your head's big, your body's big. I was like, I'm the same way. She goes, no, you're not.

Got to start eating and shove food in my mouth. You're a dime piece for the gay community, for sure. I'm not really. You got the apple bottom. I was just with Jimmy Burke in New York with gay men. I was at the duplex surrounded by gay men. You got no looks? I got nothing.

That's when you know you're getting older. You on the other hand. It's the way you walk around, dude. You don't walk around like you got pizzazzed. I wasn't wearing pants. You walk around like you're uncomfortable. You're worried about how they're perceiving you. It's because my neck hurts.

That's why. You hurt yourself shaving. Yeah, exactly. My chest. I hurt myself shaving my chest. You hurt your neck when you're shampooing your hair. You come off as a bottom, I'd say, in the gay community. I'm too aggressive for that.

I think there's a top and there's a bottom. Dude, a lot of gay men are just way more muscular. I was walking down West Hollywood. I was literally the guy who looked like he had rickets. I didn't appreciate it. West Hollywood's a different bird. My first week living here, I was walking down West Hollywood. Never been there, right?

Yeah. Going down there. Was not familiar. It was gayville. Hungry eyes. Which I don't care. I was walking down West Hollywood. Never been there, right? Going down there. Was not familiar. It was Gayville. Which I don't care. I do not care. But yeah, I have a tank top on because I just got done working out, doing boxing over there. Yeah, and there's no way to walk around without a tank

top on once you get done boxing. Especially if you know you're going to be in a gay neighborhood. Well, I didn't know I was going to be in a gay neighborhood. That's what I'm saying. You just have to do that. I'm not making this up. I was going to say, you were walking around with a tank top because you were in your experimental phase. There's things you have to do. And sometimes a boy likes playing hard to get.

It was on the bucket list. A boy likes to play hard to get. There's girls that will put on a short skirt and high heels even if they have a man. They want to let everyone know that the business might be closed down to the public, but it's still operational. The milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. I will say this. Schaub knows the size of every one of his friends' dicks. I can guarantee he investigates.

That's a question he asks. He's like, hey, I don't want to run into a guy. That doesn't mean he's gay. That means he's an honest man. He's uncomfortable. Yeah, he's an honest man, and he likes talking about boyish stuff. I was in West Hollywood. Richard Simmons pulls up an Alexis in full costume and goes,

if I had one wish, it'd be to be with you for a night. I didn't know he had a southern accent. That's probably the best impression of anybody I've ever heard. I don't know how to do it. I didn't want to do it with my voice. I don't want to do it with my voice. I don't even know if it's possible that that

came out of your mouth. I feel like I'm getting duped. That was weird, right? You feel like... I didn't know Richard Simmons talkeds talked like this i've actually watched him a number of times how's he talking over at jamie he's got more of a he's louder and he's excited there you go that's richard simmons i don't know what the fuck you're talking about i heard richard simmons i was looking over to see if jam was somehow or another working the buttons and slipping it in there. I was shocked. I'm shocked.

So that's my experience with West Hollywood. Really flamboyantly gay exercise instructors look at Richard Simmons and go, I don't fucking get it. What about me? By the way, Richard Simmons has a bad body. He's built like a CPA. I've never seen...

He's like huge afro. He's a pioneer. But he's built like a CPA. I've never seen... He has that skinny fat build. He's like huge afro. He's as muscular as your average librarian. Well, you know, I had Steve Maxwell in here the other day, the strength and conditioning coach, kettlebell guy. He's Zach Maxwell's dad, who's a top flight jiu-jitsu fighter today, these days. One of the only guys to beat Krohn Gracie. Right.

Zach Maxwell's a real beast. His dad, Steve Maxwell, has been my kettlebell instructor and friend for years. He's out of L.A.? Well, he's got the craziest life ever, man. He's not out of L.A. He's out of everywhere. He travels all over the world. He goes here and he goes there.

I don't remember the original point. What were you just talking about? We were talking about being muscular versus Richard Simmons, who's built like a library. Oh, the CrossFit instructor. That's what it is. He introduced me to the guy who invented CrossFit. I didn't know the guy who invented CrossFit is fat. Well, Greg had –

Like he's not even remotely in shape. No. He's got a gut. I can't listen to that. Have you seen it? No, but I'm saying if a big fat guy was trying to tell me how to lift, I'm going to be like, no, I'm cool, bro. Look at this image of this guy.

No, but that's because – Look at that. That's because Greg had a – He has a set image of this guy. No, but that's because- Look at that. Look at that. That's because Greg had- He has a set of tits on him. No, he had polio when he was younger, and one of his legs is much smaller than the other, and so it's hard for him- Oh, fuck off, Brian.

No, it's hard for him to move. Oh, so he has titties because of it? No, but he can't exercise the way you would be able to because he had polio, and he's partially paralyzed. So he eats cupcakes every day? No. So what he does is he was a really good gymnast when he was younger, but because he's got issues with his back, his spine,

that's how it's hard for him. Okay. I call bullshit. That's enlightening, but it seems like he's overeating. For sure, it's diet. I mean, he's obviously walking around, right? Yeah. He walks around?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you're right. This is a CrossFit. We're not talking about the guy who's the head of Arby around, right? Yeah. He walks around? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you're right. This is a CrossFit. We're not talking about the guy who's the head of Arby's. Okay? We're talking about the guy who's the head of... Look at that.

I mean, maybe he's a nice guy. If that guy's trying to sell you something in health and science, are you going to listen? Maybe he knows things. Look, there's some people that are really good coaches that never really fought. Right. There's people who are like students of all sorts of different things, whether it's athletic movements and they don't possess any physical talent. It's a super common thing,

in fact. People become fans of football and know more about football than football players who are professional. That's a fact. Same thing with MMA. Look at your average coach in football. Oh, for sure. Rex Ryan, those guys are just way out of shape. Exactly.

Perfect examples. True, but in football, some of those linemen are big boys out of shape. Exactly. Perfect examples. Perfect examples. True, but in football, some of those linemen are big boys out of shape. So you can see that. The point is you can know a lot about exercise without being the walking embodiment of exercise. Right, but look at all those other people. Jamie just threw up these other people that are all fitness instructors. Look at that. That's what they're supposed to look like.

That guy, the third one in next to the blonde hot chick, he tells me something to do, I'm going to do it. He says to jump, I'm going to say how high. That guy's abs are ridiculous. Definitely not listening to the guy who's that V'd out on the end because I find that strange. Well, when they say give us your best pick and you do that, I'm not going to talk to you.

I don't think he's that flexible. They're all fine for me. I like it. I like it. Yeah. You don't want to have one-on-ones with a girl, though. She's too hot. I agree.

You don't want that. I didn't really. Don't let your wife train with a male personal trainer. No. Dude, I did it in a bodybuilder. I did it in a bodybuilder girl. X-8. She had Gold's Gym.

I met her, and she was a bodybuilder, but natural and so hot. And I put in my time. She told you she was natural i did it i and her boyfriend her ex-boyfriend was a bodybuilder in the gym and knew of me and he he'd give me just these terrible he'd just walk around just in golds lifting and grunting and really mad at me and just just hating me because he still liked her it was such an uncomfortable thing but oh what a good time that is isn't it the best when you're around a guy who's a bitch? You can't get over a chick, so he gets mad at you because you like the chick.

I couldn't stand me. Oh, glorious. I couldn't stand me. Those men are so important. Just to know that there's bitches like that out there. Just to know there's men who just are not men. You're a masquerader. He'd be doing preacher curls, like concentration curls.

Just, eh, eh. And I was like, all right, dude. So your only problem is that you both think that the same person is awesome. That's the only problem. That's it. It's not like you beat her up. It's not like you stole money from her.

It's not like you took his car and threw it in the river. No. You're just a competition. But to the meathead's defense, he was probably trying to make it work, and then you come in with this big spotted dick and steal his girl. There's no defense. There's no defense. There's no defense. A bitch is a bitch.

I know. You know, you've got to deal with your position in life, and if a girl likes someone else and you grovel and you try to get her back or you get upset at the guy, you're a bitch. Well, the other thing is I was on Mad TV at the time, and he wanted to be an actor. He wanted to be the next Arnold,

and it wasn't going to happen. This guy sounds like a winner, though. He's like, dude, you're better looking. Relax. You're more muscular. Whatever. You're into that.

There's nothing wrong with other guys liking the same chick you like. It's just, this life is fucking short. If guys don't like your chick, you're dating an ugly chick. It's also,

there's too many Sandra Bullock movies. There's dudes running around out there that think that there's a gal out there that's the one. This fucking guy came along and took, she was one brendan yeah brendan we was i fucking drank with that girl we sit out by the fucking porch it was like a bruce springsteen

song she was the one we would drink wine together i didn't even try to fuck her bro i didn't try to fuck i didn't want to ruin that's my favorite that's my favorite i didn't want to ruin something beautiful i was talking to joe and i go like this i go know. I think I got to break up, but I love her. And he goes, no, you don't. And we start talking. I go, wait, wait, wait. I go, you don't think I love her? He goes, nah, definitely not.

Anyway, and he wouldn't even give it any time. He just goes, no, you don't. I go, no, no, no, but I think I do. He goes, nah, nah. I go, you don't think I love her? He goes, nah. Anyway, and he just changed the subject and kept rolling forward. He wasn't even going to hear me.

He would try to convince himself that he loved somebody. I know how that goes. And they're the most insane relationships. And he's like, I love her. I go, no, you don't. Very passionate. You don't. You sure don't.

Look, do you want to eat? Do you want to go get something to eat? I was like blowing it off completely. He was just literally barely steamrolling. Not entertaining at all. I gave it no entertainment. None. You're not in love with her.

Stop. Listen to yourself. We all lie to each other. Do you want to eat? You have to stop lying to yourself in life. And as you get older, you stop doing that. Hopefully. Or you become a crazy person.

Hopefully, yes. But you have to confront who you're pretending to be and the lies you tell yourself. It's so important. It's tough when you're younger, though. You're like on this grind. Like for me, I'm on this grind. I'm married to the UFC. So girls, they play second'm married to the UFC. So girls,

they become... They play second fiddle to the UFC. The UFC, I'm married to the UFC and she can be a real bitch. You know what I'm saying? She's tough to deal with sometimes. And your health is on the line. Your consciousness is on the line. I gotta be selfish. I have to be super selfish. I can't go to your family's

barbecue on a Saturday because I gotta chill and recover and train. Isn't it also, don't you find as an elite athlete that you have to be really conscious of your mindset and what you think about? No, I mean if you're weak-minded, think about what? Think about Andrei Orlovsky for the next 45 days? When you train for Orlovsky, the psychology of staying positive, not negative is what I mean. I'm a positive person. Yeah, but what he's bringing up is you have to risk that when you get involved in a relationship

because oftentimes relationships go bad. And some of the worst times you could ever have in the gym will come right after you got in a big fight with your girl where you just can't concentrate. I've had that happen before. We've all had that happen before. That's why you don't deal with chicken heads. That's why you don't mess with chicken heads. That's what I mean. You've got to be disciplined about the people you surround yourself with.

I won't even entertain the idea of a chicken head. A chicken head comes along, I'm like, no, keep clucking. Get out of here. So you wouldn't date the girl that was with Sterling? The ultimate chicken head? She deserves a trophy. The ultimate chicken head of all time? The LA Clippers chick? What? Listen,

if someone said, listen, you're going to bang this chick, you're going to lose the fucking Los Angeles Clippers if you hang out with this bitch. Think about that. The biggest chicken head of all time. He lost the team because his chick. Take all the racism out. Whatever. He's a racist bastard.

Sucks. He should not be that way. Granted, if he never signed up for this chicken head, he would still own the Los Angeles Clippers. Well, not only that, do you know the whole story behind it? His wife was suing this girl for embezzling money that the man,

Sterling, had clearly given this chick. He wanted to give her some things. He bought her gifts and stuff. Yeah, he bought her gifts. And so the wife was trying to take back the gifts. So she was suing her, and that's when the tape magically revealed itself. Oh. He sounds a little drunk in the tape, right? Probably lit up.

Probably came home from a fucking dinner, had a couple of drinks in him. Can you imagine the next morning? Oh, my God. But you know how- He sobered up and was like, what? It's totally illegal, by the way. You can't just record something. Yeah, not in California.

They're saying two things. They're saying, one, that she didn't record it. Somebody else recorded it. And they're saying, two, that he was aware that he was being recorded. Both are ridiculous. Not a chance. Both are preposterous. You're actually not allowed in California, I think, without the consent of the person Two parties. Two party consent. He needs to go around the

nation. He needs to make a pause about this. And it needs to be how to avoid chicken heads one-on-one. He is the ultimate face for chicken heads. He lost the Clippers because of this. Yeah, but he only bought the Clippers for $12 million. It's worth a half a billion now. It's a great deal. Smart businessman.

It's worth a half a billion now. Everyone's trying to buy it. Oprah's trying to buy it, right? Floyd Mayweather. Meanwhile, he's suing the NBA now. Oh, he's not going to go away quietly. He's suing them for billions of dollars. He was a divorce lawyer. He has a good case, right? He's no stranger. Meanwhile, he's suing the NBA now. Oh, he's not going to go away quietly. He's suing them for billions of dollars. He was a divorce lawyer. He's a good case. He's no stranger to litigation. He was a divorce lawyer. You can't just fucking do that to someone because of a

private conversation that was illegally wiretapped. You can't do that. Yeah, even though they're assholes. Even though he's an asshole, you can't do that because who knows what his state of mind is. He shouldn't have to protect his state of mind and wonder if it's going to be public if it's in a private moment. If he wants to say something completely inappropriate because he's drunk and then wants to recant it. In his house? In his own house. And then wants to recant it the next day or feel the folly of his ways or feel bad about what he said and correct himself or not. He still, what he says publicly should be public statements.

himself or not he's still what he says publicly should be public statements and this idea that you're supposed to pretend that everyone is listening to you and watching you every minute is ridiculous it's unfair it's unprecedented and you're talking about an old man who like is probably barely understanding what's going on the internet was invented when he was 61 fucking years old wrap your head around that okay 20 years ago 1994 what what kind of internet we have some dog shit AOL internet that this guy was 61 then No idea it's This chicken, but you have to use a case too, and you got to do what you got to do when you're old man You want to fuck young pussy you're not gonna get chicks that are balanced. She's not even that hot, though.

What are we doing, bro? What are we doing? Have you looked at him? Have you looked at his team? He owns the Los Angeles Clippers. It doesn't matter. He looks like an elephant's balls that's been stuffed into the shape of a man. He's ancient.

I've seen worse, though. Go to the Fig and Olive in Hollywood. You're going to see some old dudes with some young chicks. Go to the Playboy Mansion. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's a given. He's an old guy, and she's a young girl, and them's the rules.

Okay? Let's not pretend it is anything other than what it is. Look at that. That's what it is, man. That's what it's been since the beginning of time. She's plenty hot. He does look like melted cheese. She's not that hot.

Can we get a better picture of her? Stop. Stop. Listen, Brendan. It's beauty and the beast. First of all that hot. Can we get a better picture of her? Is she a model? Listen, Brendan. It's beauty and the beast. First of all, you are dealing with a totally different class of human. So let's just drop that. Okay?

What's hot to you and hot to... You're right. You're right, my man. You're right. You're right. I'm a teacher. What's hot to you and hot to an old dude that looks like an elephant's balls that has been shaped into a shape of a man.

He owns the Clippers. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's a different league. When you own the Clippers, bitches are lining up out your door. Try to record you and get money. Two things you have to take into consideration.

One, as you get older, you'll give less and less a fuck about a girl being perfect. And that's why MILF porn exists. You want dirty old chicks that are just, fuck it, let's give up. They're all weird looking. Dom Herrera. Keep their one stocking on. Dom Herrera looks at me. We were talking to a group of us,

and there were a couple of 21-year-old girls. I don't know how old they were. They were just hanging around. He's peeing, and he goes, are those girls hot? I was like, yeah, they look pretty hot to me. He goes, no, because at my age, a girl could have a goat head. If she's that age and she's got a body like that, I don't care if she's got a goat head.

I still think she's hot. Your standards, you're not looking at symmetry on the level that you are when you're 84 or whatever he is. No, Hot Chick's a hot chick. First of all, you gotta... 81, you own the Clippers. You're pulling some... Okay. Don't. She's not bad. Listen, he can't see, okay?

Do you know what his fucking vision must be like? He can't see. Must be ridiculous. His It must be ridiculous. His vision must be ridiculous. It has to be ridiculous. Joe used to do this bit that I think to this day, to me, is maybe one of the funniest things I've ever seen. It was Hugh Hefner taking Viagra like Tic Tacs and the girls trying to psych themselves up to have sex with him. And the one girl's like, I can see white hair coming out of his ass. tic-tacs and the girls trying to psych themselves up to have sex with them and

and the one girls like easy I can see I can see white hair coming out of his ass hold your hair don't worry he'll get you in the audition for Baywatch just go in there he's like lucky lucky you girls are lucky lucky is butchering my bit please stop now it's all bit I don't even remember how that bit I'm so good dude I talked to white hair one time I talked to a playmate one time. I talked to a playmate. We had a discussion because I said, it's a little weird to me. And she goes, what's weird? I go, well, these girls, you know, what was the show on E that they had? Girls Next Door.

Girls Next Door. I said, the show Girls Next Door, this old dude in these three hot blondes. It's kind of, it's just weird. She goes, what's weird? I go, well, obviously they're not into it because the way he looks. They're just into it to, you know, better their careers. And she goes, oh, no, he's a great guy. He takes care of us.

I'm like, it's weird. I said, what's your dad say about it? She goes, I don't have a dad. That's a given. I could have told you that. Yeah, it's a lot of that. They don't have a real male role model maybe or someone who looks at the situation and goes hey this is my little daughter why is she with this old man what what have i done wrong to make her lean towards

this really old guy but i'm not i'm not hating on hugh hefner i'm hating on the girls i would you do your thing my man definitely not hate on the girls because the girls a lot of them like girls who get into that situation whether they're they're taking naked pictures or doing porn or, you know, almost all of them, they come from a situation somewhere early on in their life where someone did something bad to them. You know, it's a super common thing. It's not all of them. There's a lot of girls

who don't, but the percentages of girls... Porno, yes. Playmates, I don't think so. Well, I think that that is a very similar... I don't think there's anything wrong with either one. I should be real clear about that. I don't judge them. I don't think anything. Well, I think that that is very similar. I don't think there's anything wrong with either one. I should be real clear about that. I don't judge them. I don't think anything's wrong.

Yeah, do your thing. There's nothing wrong with having sex on video. There's nothing wrong with any of it. But a lot of people that associate their sexuality with how they express themselves or their sexuality, exclusively how they promote and present themselves, sometimes it comes from a place where they were abused somewhere along the line. Yeah, most of the time. That makes me sad.

So when I see, and I'm not necessarily saying that that happened to those girls that are with Hafner, but when I see... No, I think those girls are opportunists. They might be, but they might not be. He might really be the first guy that was ever super sweet, and they knew that he was going to support them. It's super possible. One of the things I think –

Well, you shake your head like that, but it's totally true. If you're a chick and you're really vulnerable – If I'm a chick and I'm the prom king – you know what I'm saying? I'm the prom queen. I'm the prom queen. I get done. I don't have shit to do. I'm like, what am I going to do?

I'm a hot chick. What am I going to do? Playboy. Sign me up. Maxim 100. It could be ambition. It could be ambition. And then you do maxim 100 and that's like all right well let's step our game up let's get these titties out get more money great now

i'm making money just showing my titties then it goes from there let's throw a dick in now you're doing porno that's the vicious cycle i don't know though because i just had asa akira on the podcast she wrote that book um insatiable she you know she is yeah yeah totally and it was really interesting conversation because i kept trying to find out kind of what the origin of doing this was because she does like nine guys and all that. And she said, she was very, very self-aware because the book was really funny actually

and kind of interesting in how open she was about how destructive this was going to be for her future in certain ways, like having kids, never working with kids. And I said, what do you think it was that caused you to take this jump? Because she's really very subtle where I go, you probably could have been successful at a lot of things because you're pretty smart. And she came from a pretty tight family. And she said, honestly, I don't know. I don't know what it was that got me to take this step because I knew full well and still do that the repercussions, a lot of which I can never walk away from.

Does she have a boyfriend? Yeah, she's married to a guy in the business. Of course. Could you be married to a porno star? No. Could you do it, Joe? It'd be tough action. You'd have to have a strong mind.

Sometimes people don't know why they do what they do. I don't know that it's as cut and dry as saying, well, most of the time I think it's probably damage somewhere. I do think there are examples where people are just... There's exceptions. Okay, Dana DeArmond's an example. You talk to Dana DeArmond, she didn't have any abuse in her childhood. She has a very healthy attitude about the whole thing. She's a very smart chick, too.

She's interesting to talk about it. Because, you know, she sort of disposes the myth. And, you know, all those myths... What's the matter? His thing's blocking his face. Whose thing? Shob's mic stand. Okay, maybe we should move the cameras or something. My bad.

Okay. Sorry. Where were we? You were talking about porn stars and damage and being self-aware. I forget my point. It's just... Fucking mic. Yeah, doesn't matter

the bottom line is there's a lot of them whatever the percentage is 40% 50% a lot of it comes from damage so that's how I look at it I always feel bad for them so you feel sorry for them sure I have daughters too

I think there's and I have a sister it's a very different thing growing up being a chick it's a different think there's – and I have a sister. It's a very different thing growing up being a chick. It's a different world, man. It's much more vulnerable. I also think a guy can be strong. Well, we're talking about gay guys hitting on us. Like last night, I went to go get vegetables late at night, which is weird.

Anyways, I go to get vegetables in Marina Del Rey, and I'm walking by this frozen yogurt place. These two guys are making out, which is whatever. You just don't see it a lot so i was like oh damn that's weird they catch me looking at them they stare at me they make some smirk comment under their breath i was like man just look forward just keep moving just keep moving like super nervous and then i thought this is how hot chicks feel all the time even with real shitty looking dudes they're getting no matter what they're always getting hit on i'll give you one more i'll give you one more if you'll give you one more. If you were with your chick,

your chick wouldn't feel threatened by two dudes that were into you. But if you were a hot chick and you were the guy. It's disrespectful. That's different. It's disrespectful. Oh, it's definitely

a different struggle. But if you're a hot chick and you were the guy that can't defend you and there's a bunch of big scary guys that are hitting on you, that's even worse.

It's an even worse situation. So to be a chick, like, at least you don't have to worry about yourself physically, most likely. And think about how nervous you got. You're a UFC fighter and there's two guys. I wasn't nervous. I was just like, I was uncomfortable.

I wasn't like, God, they're going to hold me down and rape my ass. Right, but think about that. You're physically dominant over them 100 still unequivocably and still uncomfortable that's dark shit man so you think about what it's like to be a hundred pound girl and there's three or four dudes who look like you and they're buying yogurt and you're trying to get can i get that bacon yeah you get some bacon bitch you know you can they fucking there's these giant you're like a gazelle among lions. These poor girls, man. Thick-cocked ogres. Can't even run away from them.

Not even as fast. It's very rare you get thick-cocked ogres who are banding up and raping guys in the fucking salad bar. Especially in Marina del Rey. Yeah. People always want to say that. There's a guy that I had on the podcast that actually tried to make that argument. Why? He was like, well, the statistics on rape are very deceptive because a lot of people don't know that more men are raped than women.

That's ridiculous. And I go, yeah, but you know who's raping the men? Other men. So it's fucking stupid. Like, what kind of dumbass point is that? Other men are raping men. It's not like women are raping men. Right.

Who gets raped more, men or women? You'd be surprised at the outcome. Next on Retardo. I also don't believe that, by the way. I also don't buy that. Of course it is. Prison. A lot of guys are getting raped in prison.

When you factor in prison, guys are getting raped. That's just a fact. Especially if you consider rape. There are things that people are considering rape now that really wasn't considered rape when we were younger. What are we talking about? We're talking about a lot of different things. Getting a girl drunk and having sex can be a lot of things.

That's how to get you in trouble. Getting your girl drunk, getting your girl on pills. I've talked to a lot of guys in jail who spent a lot of trouble. Getting a girl drunk, getting a girl on pills. I've talked to a lot of guys in jail who spent a lot of time in jail, and one of the things they all said is, I go, what about the rape thing? And they go, you know, man, a lot of that, what you've got to realize is that there are a lot of guys in jail willing to give it up for free. And so if you are the kind of guy who, if they know that they're going to have to fight for it and you might lose an eye or a nose.

You're going to get that ass up. What happens if they go, let's just go over to the other guy? No, I'm saying they'll actually leave you alone and go to the other guy. Oh, really? They want to fight? No, no, no. What he's saying is that if you're willing to fight, they won't fuck you. But that's still rape, dude.

You fought back. It's still rape. The other guy who gives in out of fear for his life, he's getting raped. I was also watching a prison show and the guy was saying, this gangster was saying, nah, it's not gay, man because when you're in prison, all rules are off. Then when I get out, I'm back with my girl.

Nah, homie, you gay. Do you remember what Shane Carlin said to me? I looked at him and I go, God, I don't even know what I'd do if I had to share a prison cell with you. And he looked at me and I go, God, I don't even know what I'd do if I had to share a prison cell with you. And he looked at me and he goes, you'd suck my cock. Remember that? He's got a good point.

He squeezed. Remember when he picked me up and started squeezing me and I go, I couldn't breathe. And he goes, he goes in my ear, he goes, that's 40%, bro. Yeah. Another level. I said to Nate Marquardt, I go, could he do that to you? And Nate goes, if I let him, yeah. He's a strong man.

He could squeeze you to death. That poor guy, it's really too bad that he had all those injuries, man. Yeah. Had a lot of neck injuries, a lot of back injuries. Football, wrestling. Football, wrestling. What did you think of the Glover? Incredible performance by Jon Jones.

He's smart as shit, too. That shoulder wrench that he used in the clinch. Amazing. I've never seen anybody do that before, and everyone's going to start doing it now. I mean, now it's 100%, because that comes up all the time. It's a copycat league. I was throwing more elbows on Monday. Sure.

My coach goes, listen, I want you to put elbow pads on now. You know, John's so good at those too. In those tight situations, it doesn't make an advantage or a disadvantage rather to have long arms when he's using elbows. And he has all the torque from his mechanical advantage the way his body's framed he's throwing nasty elbows inside the clinch and it's literally the perfect distance for like full power shots whereas like if he was punching you'd have to like get some room in order to punch but he's landing these elbows inside and they're just perfect what's amazing what makes john the best pound for pound fighter in the world right now is you would think he was just going to sit on the outside and pick Glover Teixeira apart.

That was the game plan. And then he goes, I just decided to switch it up, do his game. Because we thought, most experts thought it would be inside against the, if it goes inside against the cage, Glover, that's where he wants to be, he's going to tear John up. John said, forget this. Pins him against the cage and just does work. He did Glover's game plan against him. Yeah, just like he did Chael's game plan against Chael.

It was crazy. But I saw you saying something during the fight. Was something wrong with his right hand? Don't know. Never found out. He didn't throw any right hands. Never found out. He threw an uppercut, but really that's it.

He threw a few. He definitely threw a few. But nothing like normal, right? He threw a lot of lefts. He threw some nice. He threw a few. He definitely threw a few. Nothing like normal, right? He threw a lot of lefts. He threw some nice left hooks too, man. His left hook is sweet. Great check left hooks, yes. Yeah, very nice, real accurate left hooks.

But it was the elbows, I agree with you, up against the cage that were the most impressive. My feeling is it's going to always be Gustafson is going to be number two or whatever. They're going to battle that again. And I want to see, I think the number two spot is up for grabs between Anthony Romo Johnson and Glover Teixeira. Those guys have similar styles. Oh, dude, you can't sleep on Daniel Cormier, man. Do not sleep on Daniel Cormier.

That's true. That's true. I think Cormier beats both those guys. That's so true, man. I think Cormier beats both those guys. Cormier is something special, man. I forgot about him. You can't fuck with Daniel Cormier.

He's something special. But is he going to be able to deal with Jon Jones? Well, we're going to find out. That's for damn sure. Yeah. I think Daniel Cormier. He's something special. But is he going to be able to deal with Jon Jones? Well, we're going to find out. That's for damn sure. Yeah. I think Daniel Cormier is the most marketable guy to fight. Better wrestler. More than Gustafson?

He's not just, well, Gustafson, for sure. Yeah. You know, I'd say probably even. It's a good point. It's close. But I thought, I mean, outside, the Gustafson fight's guaranteed. That's the next fight. Might be a sweeter.

But outside of that. That's going to be the next fight. I know. It's going to be amazing. That's going to be the next fight with Jon Jones. With Jon Jones. For sure. Gustafson took a big chance, too, in's going to be the next fight with John Jones. For sure. Gustafson took a big chance, too, in fighting Jimmy Manoa.

He took a big chance. Did he, though? Yes. Yes. He took a chance. Yeah. I mean, he beat him, and he won. But Manoa's no joke.

Manoa's fucking dangerous. He's dangerous. He hits very hard. He's an explosive fighter. However, it was way too much of a jump for him. Fighting Gustafson was like, it was kind of like, here, Gustafson, stay active. That's super easy to say after the fact. But if Gustafson came in, he wasn't disciplined, he doesn't mind his P's and Q's.

He wouldn't be where he's at if he wasn't. You're right, but sometimes guys will slip when they go from a title fight and they drop down the next fight, they're on the fight card. Well, but he believed he won the fight. He thinks he's the champ. And John says the same thing, too. He goes, Alexander's talking like he won the fight. Bro, it was a great fight, but drop it.

You lost. It was a very good fight, but I agree with the decision. Me, too. I agree. It was the right decision. I had John 3-2. Yeah, John pulled it out. He pulled it out.

He did. And he gutted it out like a champion in the last rounds. But, damn, Gustafson fucking held himself. He held account of himself very well. Took John down. Seeing Gustafson after that fight in the hallway, because I went down to the press conference, and seeing how beat up he was, and then seeing John.

I didn't see John after the fight. Oh, John came through my locker room. You did. He was on a stretcher. His body was trembling. I just leaned over him. I said, man, that was a hell of a fight, man. I'm so proud of you.

My coach, Tony Jeffries, he came from boxing, right, Olympic boxer. That's the first UFC event he's ever been to was cornering me. He's never been to one. He's never watched one on TV. That was his first one. He sees John. He goes, I've never seen anything like that. He goes, I would never do this after seeing that.

That's no joke. Well, he was pushing the limit in that fight, man. That was the limit. I mean, both those guys hit the wall, but John just kept pushing just a little bit more. It was a very close fight, just a little bit more. I think besides DC and Gus Finn, I don't see anyone challenging John. I would like to see what happens with Anthony Rumble Johnson, though. Well, he's going to fight.

I think the fight between those two is Glover Teixeira. Rumble and Glover? Yeah, they seem very similar. Similar styles. Glover's hurt. Glover's shoulder's fucked up. Yeah, his shoulder very similar. Similar styles. Glover's hurt. Glover's shoulders fucked up. Yeah, his shoulders. He might have to have surgery.

Yeah, his shoulders fucked up. After the fight, his arm was straight. Oh, because he was getting that. He was getting like that. Right away from the first round against the cage. You can see it. We were talking about the beginning. He doesn't even listen.

We were talking about the shoulder wrench, and he was like, hey, when do I get to talk? Oh, no. I thought you were talking about the, not the shoulder wrench. I thought you were talking about when he used his shoulder to hit him. No, no, no. Oh. That was actually a submission. You're talking about when he caught his arm and he yanked it this way.

John grabbed his arm. They tied up. And John grabbed his arm. That's not it either. Yeah. I remember that. They tied up. John grabbed his arm.

It's a shoulder lock. And he yanked his shoulder up and popped it out. And he fucked his right arm up pretty bad. It was dope, man. It was dope. I love seeing that stuff. Yeah. That's so inspiring, man. That's what you were love seeing that stuff. That's so inspiring, man.

That's what you were talking about earlier, that it's a copycat business. And you're right in a lot of ways. The NFL is a copycat business. So in the NFL, I'm going to get nerdy on you here, some football talk. The Tampa 2, so when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers won the championship with their defense, they had a defense called the Tampa 2 where the middle backer would drop. He's so athletic, he would drop back deep into coverage, which was rare. The next year, every team was doing it.

Tampa won a championship doing that. The next year, every team had that defense. Well, now the offense have figured it out. No one's doing that anymore. In the UFC, same thing. You see Anthony Pettis using the cage, jumping off of it. We see Jon Jones throwing elbows. Guess what?

I guarantee you I wasn't the only one working elbows on Monday. Yeah. Because you see how effective it is, and you're like, okay, I need to add that to my arsenal. Remember when the front kick to the face started? Everybody started front kicking to the face? Yeah. Before Anderson, it was pretty rare to see front kicks to the face. Super rare.

And then he knocks out Vitor Belfort with it. And then we see Lyoto do it to Randy Couture. And Travis Brown knocks out Alistair. Well, Travis Brown landed four on Alistair, and Alistair's like, well, what should I do here? Bam, knocked him out again. That was ridiculous. It's a copycat league. Wheel kicks.

Wheel kicks, everything. Regrets to John Jones for a shoulder crack. Of course he regrets it. Don't let a guy rip his shoulder. I probably had no idea that that was going to happen. Didn't think about that. I'll tell you what was interesting about this fight.

When you guys were calling it, and I'm not taking shots here, but while you guys were calling it Goldberg, every second was Chuck Liddell. I'd love to see what Chuck Liddell was saying here. Chuck Liddell. Did he say that? I wonder if Chuck Liddell, how he feels about this fight right now. Chuck Liddell thinks he, Chuck Liddell co-signed on Chuck Liddell.

I was like, damn it, Chuck Liddell's not fighting right now. Did he really say a lot of that? He said a lot of Chuck Liddell's. Did I say any Chuck's? I don't think you did. I'm proud of you. Thank you. Proud of you, man.

Well, Goldberg, you know, he has notes. Yeah. Maybe that's what he wanted to talk about. Well, listen, Chuck's one of the most famous fighters of all time For a lot of people that don't know anything about Glover That was like an important point I guess to talk about though For the folks that didn't know anything I agree with you

You're associating Chuck Liddell with Glover Glover's like the new age Chuck Liddell I guess And then when he picks him apart And John's done great I'm proud of John for this Because he's done great answering his critics if you've seen some of his instagram posts they're classic yeah like phil davis talking all that smack let's talk about phil for a second yeah so dana white says to phil if for those of

the listeners i don't know and probably brian as well phil davis wants a title shot and dana comes out like bro you just don't seem like you want it. You don't call anyone out. These rankings, these bullshit rankings, these rankings, you got to make your way. You got to show me you want it. So Phil's not the best shit talker in the world. And he starts doing it. He did it so much.

Like when they had the press conference, he was talking shit to John, not even acknowledging Anthony Rumble Johnson. So he's taking a page out of Dana's book trying to get this big title fight. He goes out, and if you watch the fights, gets mollywhopped by Anthony Johnson. Not even a fight.

Not even a fight. And now, the criticism he's getting is ridiculous. But big risk becomes big reward. What can you do? So John Jones puts a video up of him watching Phil Davis fight. And then him staring at the camera just going like this. It was classic. I got to see that.

Pull it up. Oh, that's so funny. It was classic. Oh, no. I get what Phil's trying to do, though, man. Let's say he goes out and dominates Anthony Johnson. He gets a quick knockout. He has a chance that they put him

next in line. Yeah, if he dominated Anthony Johnson, but Anthony Johnson's a fucking scary fight for a guy. At 205, he's scary. At 185, 170, not that scary. I can't believe he sucked that much weight. He would deplete himself too much. He's a poster boy for the point of diminishing returns. When you deplete yourself so much,

you have no energy left. I say this all the time. How does someone not say, hey Anthony, you're 240 pounds. You think fighting at 170 is smart, bro? Come on, man. You can answer that yourself. How many times have you said on this podcast, I wish someone would have just told me. That's what I'm saying. How come someone

doesn't come around and talk to us? That's what I'm saying. When you ask for big nog in Brazil, it's like your third fight. They wanted to give me that fight in Denver. I said, no, let's do it in Brazil. How about that? Oh, my God. Great decision-making, Schaub.

Somebody should sit Schaub down. Do you understand jet lag? Do you know about jet lag? Do you know about flying in planes? Yeah, fuck that noise. It's like taking seven x-rays. Not good, man. Not good. A couple days before you fight. Not good. That, fuck that noise. It's like taking seven x-rays. Not good, man. A couple days before you fight.

That's a long flight, man. And you have to hang out in the stadium for like ten hours. Oh, because the traffic in Rio. Watch this. Here's the fight. This is his Instagram video. Anthony. Classic. I'm blinking.

But the thing is, Phil deserves it. I love Phil. Phil's one of my favorite people in the business. I love Phil, too, but it's part of the game. He was trying to play the game. He was trying to get people to pay attention to him. You can't be mad at him. No, I'm not.

I love Phil. I think that what he was trying to do was get people to pay attention. It's part of the business. It just backfires. Sometimes it backfires. That was a tough fight. He should have been. Bad matchup.

They also look for you to fail when you start doing something like that. So if you're doing it before you even won your fight, the point of return on getting it will be less than it would be if you started talking shit after you won. If you're talking shit about getting another fight when you have a fight coming up against a guy who's the favorite against you, a guy who's a fucking dangerous guy. With a lot of people, I don't know what the actual fake odds were.

Anthony Johnson was the underdog. Not to me. Well, no, not to the people who know what the hell's going on. Anthony hits too hard. He's too scary. In the top 15, from 1 to 15, 15 can be a horrible matchup for No. 1. It's about styles and it's about matchups. So, Phil Davis, there cannot be a worse matchup from than Anthony Johnson.

The guy beat Leoto Machida. What are we talking about? Some don't think he won that fight. I don't think he won that fight. It's close, though. He didn't get dominated like he did against Anthony Johnson. No, you're absolutely right. It was a big difference between the Machida fight.

He's a bigger underdog. Yeah, the Machida fight, it was a close fight. That was a close fight. I just thought Machida won. What do you think it was about? Was Rumble just too... He's a monster. He's just too much of a monster.

He's a monster. And Rumble's a scary guy. Rumble fucked up Arlovsky at heavyweight. God, that's so crazy. He almost stopped him in the first round. He broke his jaw in half in the first round. Arlovsky fought the last two rounds with a jaw that was shifting up and down because it was shattered in the side.

Somebody's fighting Arlovsky. Somebody's got some good stories. When we talk about how guys are hyping fights, it can backfire. Like with the Mitrione fight, me and Matt, you know, we're buddies. We can both talk a little smack. So it was good to hype the fight talking smack. Right. It was great. When you fight legends like Mirko Krokop, Andrei Orlovsky, Big Nog, with Orlosky, fans are hitting me up on Twitter like, oh, I can't wait to see what your smack talk is. There's no smack talk.

I don't need to talk smack to Andre Arlosky to hype this fight. He's a legend. You're not going to win any fans over. What are you going to say? What are you going to say? Oh, man, you fought the very best fighters in the world. You're a heavyweight champ. I mean, what are you going to do? You've got to be super respectful.

Yeah, man. Otherwise, they fucking attack like wolves. Like wolves. The fight sells itself. Tell them the story about how you were training with Orlovsky. After training where he goes, come here. Yeah, yeah. So Andre Orlovsky and I used to train together at Jackson's camp.

And I was getting ready for a fight. This was over, shoot, almost four years ago. The two fighters that I, when I first got into the game, that I admired and loved were Mirko Krokop and Andre Orlovsky. My two very favorites. That's who I wanted to be like. So I walked in the gym and it was Orlovsky's first day at Jackson's too. And, you know, when you've seen a guy on TV fighting all the time, then you run into him, you're like, damn, all right.

So I see him like, oh, shit, there's Andre Arlovsky. So then I'm like, all right, Shaub Arlovsky, you're in the ring. First day sparring, right, fresh off the plane where I'm sparring with him. So me and him are going, and it's a close round. He's a badass, right? Me and him are going back and forth. People would literally stop and watch us spar. Just these dog rounds back and forth, five rounds in a row.

And then later that night we grapple. And then the next morning I drink coffee every morning, right? Drinking coffee. I have this horrible coffee breath. Breath smelled like pure coffee shit breath, right? And I go up to Andre and he's not a very warm person at all. Not at all. He's that very Belarus Russian where it's going to take a while to be his friend, I can tell.

And I'm trying to break these barriers, man. I go, hey, bro, I just want to let you know, man, I got that coffee breath. And he didn't say a word to me the night before training. He goes, it's okay. It's okay. Much better than yesterday. Yesterday, shit. I go, what?

He goes, yesterday breath smelled like shit. I go, oh, cool, man. Cool. And then just went about our business. That was really the only words he ever said to me, man. We trained together for a while. Wasn't even friendly. What about when you were kicking, when he had you kick his body? Yeah. And then we get done training. I've never done this. He goes, I'm trying to do my best Russian accent. You guys are probably much better. It's terrible Russian accent. Horrible, right? Well, sorry, I'm not from Russia. So he goes, put your hands on top of your head like this.

I'm like, what are we doing, man? We just got done sparring. I'm exhausted. I put my hands up, and he just goes, brace yourself, and starts wailing at my body. What? With kicks, punches, wailing. It was this make you tough. I'm like, okay.

And I'm like, ow. I'm trying to be tough, though, because he's my hero. I'm like, okay, ow, ow. And then he goes, my turn. You do it to me. And I'm like, doing it. He goes, no, you hit like girl. Hit.

And I'm fucking trying, man, trying to hurt this guy. Nothing. That was my experience with Andrei Hrlovsky. Oh, no. Yeah, man. And now you've got to fight him for years and years. Now I've got to fight him. I was sitting on the beach, and I get a call from Lex McMahon, my manager.

He goes, bro. And whenever he calls me multiple times, because I rarely answer. Whenever he calls me multiple times, you know you've got to fight. He calls. I'm like, yeah, whatever. Ignore. Calls again. Ignore.

I'm like, oh, shit. We've got something. Answer. I'm like, what's up, man? He goes, amigo, we've got to fight. I'm like, what's up, man? He goes, amigo, we got to fight. I'm like, yeah. Hunt finally freaking saddled up and signed the contract. He goes, nope.

He used to be your hero. I go, get the fuck out of here. I knew right away. I go, they re-signed Andre Oloski. He goes, yep. And done. I was like, done. When is it?

He goes, seven weeks. Cool. Let's do it. Vancouver, June 14th, UFC 174. Going down. Dum, dum, dum. Dun, dun, dun. Shit gets real.

Left the beach straight to the gym. So today we just decided that Brian Callen's going to join me on those dates so that he can be there with his boyfriend. The kids coming to town. My date in Vancouver and Lloyd Minster, both of those. Brian Callen and Tony Hinchcliffe's coming too. I'm excited. Oh, by the way, I'll be at the Coluso Casino tomorrow.

And then I'll be in Edmonton and Toronto this month. Go to BrianCallen.com. Powerful Brian Callen. Yuck, yucks. How many fighters in the kid are you guys doing a week? Just one. We'll do one a week. When are you going to break free from the teat of big business?

Very soon. Very soon, Joe Rogan. Very soon. We're killing it, man. It's doing well over there. Awesome. Yeah. It's a good podcast.

We're trying. It's fun. It's fun. What did you think about the rest of the card, the rest of the UFC card? I thought Joey Benavidez looked great. Fuck yeah. I haven't seen a guy tap with his feet like that. Yeah, me neither.

It was dope, right? In all the years of the UFC, I don't think there was another time where a guy tapped with his feet like that. From a mounted guillotine. The Joe Constrictor. The Joe Constrictor. Joe Constrictor. That thing was tight.

It was nasty. Super tight. Full mount with both arms trapped inside and a guillotine. It was pretty wild. It was a pretty wild technique. I'll tell you who I came away, probably besides Jon Jones, obviously, he just destroyed Glover. But the guy who looked the best to me was Luke Rockhold. Yeah.

That guy's a dime piece, dude. He looked real good. He's a stud. Handsome dude. Handsome bastard. Yeah, I got him over you, and I apologize. Hard to believe that he really weighs a buck 85. Like, when you stand next to him, he's tall, right?

He's not just tall. He's shredded, too. He's not a scrawny guy. No. He's not like a thin 185er at all. Yeah. I mean, you could see him eventually deciding that he doesn't want to make that weight anymore and going up to 205.

Because I don't know how old he is. How old is he? He's less than 30, right? No. I think he's 31. Is he really? This fucking guy's good. He was a surfer who just came to AKA and was like, let's do this.

That reverse triangle is dope. I thought he was going to go for the arm earlier, though. Yeah. I didn't know what he was doing. He was patient. He didn't want to lose the position. But he also was. I didn't think he was going to lose it, though.

He's 29. He did a really good job of making sure that he got the side up, got him on his side, didn't let him flatten out. Guys like to try to flatten out, try to protect the Kimura. And he made sure he got him yanked up to his side. That triangle's nasty, too. That triangle's nasty. It's tough to finish from there.

It's really hard. It's very tough to finish. It's very hard to finish with the triangle itself. That's what I'm saying. The triangle to finish that reverse triangle like that's very tough. Braulio Esteema catches it. Braulio Esteema's nasty with it. Have you ever rolled with him?

No, I've not. Monster. Yeah, I've rolled with him. Catches everyone in it. You've rolled with him? Yeah. He's got a very weird style, that duck under style of attacking that inverted triangle. He's got, you know, he has an artificial disc in his neck.

I didn't know that. Yeah, there's Benavidez. Look how dope that is. That's a joke. Both hands trapped in, arching his back. God. It's like a guard from the mount. I'm so happy for him, too, man.

That guard, a lot of guys are doing their guard like that now. That's crazy. That's such a crazy thing. Their mount, they're crossing their feet under like a guard. A grapevine. Yeah, but under the body, under the actual body. And if you have like a really good, strong, tight guard, and you do that from the mount, boy, you fucking sap the will out of a guy.

I agree. Because you take away a lot of breath. When you really clamp down on them like that, it's very hard for them to breathe. And a lot of guys freak out when you get in a mount. Especially that mount. Yes. Like that, that's like, you look at Benavidez, how much arc he's putting in there and how much torque. a lot of guys freak out when you get in a mount. Especially that mount. Yes. You look at Benavidez, how much arc he's putting in there

and how much torque. That's an expert black belt mount. He's a beast. And then you see other guys' mounts where they're kind of sloppy. Very loose. Very loose. There's no pressure. Benavidez is just crunching. It's a perfect name. The Joa Constrictor. It's a perfect name. I love that. He's a great guy, too.

One of the best, man. He can dress, too. He's cool. He's funny. It's the perfect name. I love that. He's a great guy, too. One of the best, man. He can dress, too. He's cool. He's funny. He's a good dude. Yeah, it was interesting watching that. So we saw good jiu-jitsu technique. And then Jim Miller caught Yancy Medeiros in the guillotine and put him to sleep.

And then was celebrating while he was underneath him. First time ever. Guys on top of you, unconscious. And Miller was celebrating. Let's go, ref. Get him off, man. Crazy. Jim Miller's j. Let's go, ref. Get him off, man. Crazy. Jim Miller's jiu-jitsu is ridiculous.

Fuck, yeah, it is. You see him submit Fabricio Camões with an armbar from the guard? Yeah. High level. Super high level. He slipped it in there like a glove. And he was like, what? I can't believe this. You could see when the armbar was locked up, the look in Camões' face.

He's a Hoyler Gracie black belt. He's like, I can't believe I'm getting submitted by an American. Oh, you motherfucker. That kid Silva, John Silva, I think, who knocked out. Eric Silva, are you talking about? Eric Silva, who knocked out. Oh, he's a beast. Yeah, he's a reason.

But have you ever seen Dong Young Kim knock him out? Yes. Dong Young Kim fucked him up, man. Woo! Kim is a beast, man. Yes, he is. That guy's aggressive. Well, he's still young. He comes out of Black House,

but it seems like he's got all the talent in the world. Because he rushed, I think. Who, Eric? He's been tested by Fitch. Fitch beat him in a decision. He's been in there with some really good guys. He's got a lot of potential and he's definitely getting better. There's no way he fights at that weight class.

Everyone's a black belt. Like I say, at 155, 170, 145, you're basically a black belt in everything. If you lack in anything else, you're going to get exposed. It's so competitive there. The top 20, you're going to get exposed right away. How about Tiago Alves? Tiago Alves is back. Came out guns blazing.

Took two years off. Looked like he never missed a step. Leg kicks with Seth. Oh, a beautiful technique, too. I held a pad for Tiago when he was kicking, showing me how to kick. And I held a pad

and he just kind of laid in with some kicks, like some low kicks to the legs. I was shocked. It was shocking. It was shocking how strong his leg kicks were.

I think strong is all that good, but it's great. But his technique is what's so beautiful. His technique is ridiculous. He throws that straight right, right leg kick and that left

hook right leg kick and it's fucking devastating. His timing is so perfect. He rarely gets checked. If you watch the amount of guys that get their legs kicked checked versus the amount of times that guys land them. There's some guys that are just uncanny at landing them and not getting checked. Tiago's one of the best. Aldo.

Aldo's fantastic. Barau's fantastic. Barau's amazing of the best. Aldo. Aldo's up there. Aldo's a fantastic guy. Might be the best. Barau is a fantastic guy. Barau's amazing. Barau can fuck you up with anything. He can fuck you up with a long punch, fuck you up with a knee. What's his background? People don't realize Barau is our Floyd Mayweather. The guy hasn't lost in forever.

But he does have one loss. He does. Floyd Mayweather, because Floyd Mayweather is undefeated. In MMA, though, but in MMA, to have one loss out He does. He's not the Floyd Mayweather because Floyd Mayweather is undefeated. In MMA, though, but in MMA to have one loss out of 30. Pretty impressive. It's crazy. What is Burrell's background? No, I know, but what is his background as far as like –

He's a nobleman young guy. He's a jiu-jitsu black belt who got into MMA. He trained with Jose Aldo. His jiu-jitsu is world class. His fucking striking is fantastic. His striking is so good. That's like – it's the same. He trains with Aldo.

So it helps to have. Oh, fuck yeah. You know, it's kind of like. He's fighting soon. Corbin Day's training partner is Cain Velasquez. You know, he's fighting TJ Dillashaw. TJ Dillashaw and him are fighting in May. Very, very interesting fight.

What do you think of that fight? TJ Dillashaw is a tough kid. He's a really good athlete. He's a really good fighter. This is a big step up. A giant step up. I mean, I think he's improved without a doubt over the last couple of years. Burau is just a lot to chew off.

It's a lot to chew off. Burau's no joke. He might be the best. It's like there's three guys, four guys that are contention for being the best, and number one is Jon Jones. In my opinion, the way he shuts guys down, everybody except Gustafson, the Gustafson fight.

I think Gustafson's fucking fantastic. I don't think there's any slight on Jon because the Gustafson fight was close. I think it's just because Gustafson's not good. But if you see there's any slight on John because the Gustafson fight was close. I think it's just because Gustafson's not good. But if you see what he did to Glover, see what he did to Rampage, you see what he did to Machida, who else does? Vitor. I mean, just dominate everything.

Who else? I mean, he got also caught by an armbar in the Vitor fight, let his arm hyperextend, and he still won the fight. That was so nuts. His arm was bent back. He had his whole body. I mean, that was the craziest armbar I've ever, I mean. It was nasty.

It was a nasty, beautiful, perfect ar arm bar, and John still didn't tap. So nuts. A lot of guys would have tapped. A lot of guys would have tapped. His arm was pretty fucked for a long time after that fight. Makes sense. Yeah, and then he fucked up his toe when he fought Chael Sonnen, snapped that bench and rolled it over.

That's right. Yeah, I mean, if he didn't stop Chael in that first round, that fight was over. His toe was useless. His bone was sticking out. It was twisted around in a circle. It was all dislocated and turned the wrong way. It was fucked up, man. John's a beast. He's an animal. He's the best we have right now. Is Aldo

going to go up to 55? I think he's going to have to. I honestly think that holds Aldo back. I think it's like a Rumble Johnson type thing. Yeah. I think it's a Rumble Johnson type thing. We were talking about that. What else is with form at 45, though? Well, there's a lot of guys. Cub Swanson, for one. He's got the title, though.

That's the big thing. It doesn't matter. He beat Cub with one knee. One flying knee back in the WEC days. And Cub's a beast. Cub's a beast. Cub's the most talented guy I've ever seen in the training room. I think Cub is a real threat.

I think Cub's a real threat. I've never seen anything like it. Really? Literally a real-life ninja. Really? He was sparring, and I was just likearring It's rare I stop and watch guys And I was watching them and I was like dang Just because his ability to come in and out

The creativity The creativity he had was like nothing I've ever seen And he hasn't even unleashed All of it yet He's still not to that level Wait until he unleashes it However for Aldo I think there's bigger matchups at 55 I think you're right and I think that he would probably be better served physically at 55.

I think it's really hard for him to make that weight. So you see Aldo will come out guns blazing in the first few rounds, but then he realizes he's not going to get a guy out of there. If he thinks he might not be able to get a guy out of there, he's just going to beat him up. He'll start to coast. And I think the reason why he does that, most likely, is because of the fact that he's cutting down from a lot of weight. He's probably walking around over 170 and he's getting down to 145. It's crazy.

And he's a lean guy. I mean, I don't know his exact walking around weight. I would estimate it. He's not tall. He's a thick kid, though. He's 5'7", I think. No fat on him. No, he's very muscular.

But he's so goddamn good. His left hook, right leg kick is the smoothest and quickest in the business. Who does he have the most trouble with in 55? Cerrone? No. No. I mean, he's got some great fights. Who knows who's going to have a hard time with it at 55?

55 would be amazing. We'd have the same fight at 55. He still has a possible rematch with Chad Mendes at 45. That's going to be interesting. For Aldo, though, it's like, why do that? What's it do for you? Money. That's it.

I agree. But all right, so then you're going to go super fights. You want to though, it's like, why do that? What's it do for you? Money. That's it. I agree. But all right, so then you're going to go super fights. You want to make real money, you go super fights. 55. Yeah, 55. Him and Pettis was being bandied about. Him and Pettis were supposed to happen, right? But Pettis has had some injuries.

He's had some injuries. I mean, these guys get banged up. Pettis just had knee surgery, so it's going to be a while before he gets back. I'll tell you what is going to be huge for the UFC and just for heavyweights in general is Cain Velasquez versus Fabricio Verdum in Mexico, son. That's going to be crazy. Mexico. By the way, Fabricio Verdum speaks perfect Spanish.

Perfect. Literally, the UFC, it couldn't be more perfect. Yeah. Cain versus Fabricio. Fabricio speaks better Spanish than Cain. Yeah. It's ridiculous. So they're fighting in Mexico, and they have these two as the tough coaches.

I mean, literally picture perfect for the UFC. Yeah, and dude, how good did Fabricio look against Travis Brown? Amazing. That was amazing. His double jabs. Double jabs, triple jabs. It was so inspiring, man. Snapping that jab in there.

He looked great. And bowing and punching and looking the other way and matching kick for kick. How about when he kipped up to his feet and then kicked him in the body? He was on his back trying to get him to come to his guard. And then just like matrix it up. Yeah. He kips up and then throws a body kick. Confidence.

And by the way, to come back after all that time and be that confident and to be looking like you're having fun and just talking to him. And to go through a fucking dangerous moment in that first round. Yeah. That first round was super dangerous. Travis Brown And to go through a fucking dangerous moment in that first round. Yeah. That first round was super dangerous. Travis Brown might be, yeah, one of the most dangerous fighters in the world. Was he talking to him, Joe? You were there.

Was he talking to him? He was taunting him. What was he saying? Telling him, you're cut. You're cut. You know you're cut? You know you're cut? It's open.

Is that what he's saying? Yeah, and then he'd pop him again with a jab. Really? He was telling him that he was cut, and he was kicking his legs and kicking his body. He wasn't kicking his legs too much, actually. I think a lot of it was his body. What are they saying about Yul Romero who looks so amazing? He's a freak,

man. He's a freak. He's another one that's a real challenge at 185. He only got to beat Kale Sanderson twice. Yeah. He's incredible. He's a world champion. The way he throws dudes around. He started to use his wrestling finally. Yeah. Because before he wasn't.

In Europe and in Cuba and Europe and stuff, the reason that international wrestlers a lot of times beat Americans, Americans are freestyle collegiate wrestlers. And in Europe, they start more from the clinch. They do a lot of Greco. So their clinch is way better. So when you fight internationally like that, when you wrestle internationally, it's very different.

So you tie it with a guy like Yoel Romero. Good luck dealing with that Greco. Good luck dealing with those throws. Yeah, but it's not just that. The other thing about that guy is his striking. He hits you coming in. He's so damn fast. And he hasn't been striking that long. Can I please see him and Hector Lombard

fight each other? They train together. They're different weight classes. Yoel's been fighting 85 and Lombard is way better at 170. He just cut at 70, yes. Yeah, I like him. Another guy looked great. Lombard, dude, his judo is ridiculous. Those fucking throws that he had Jake Shields with.

Those hips. Nobody ever ragdolls Jake Shields like that. Never. Jake's a pro, yeah. You never see that. That's just what a freak Hector Lombard is. But Yoel Romero's a freak, too. Who are they going to put Yoel with?

Well, Brad Tavares is legit. He's tough. He's a very tough kid. That was the test. He's a dangerous striker. The Derek Brunson fight. Derek Brunson head kicked Yoel Romero. And took him down.

Yeah. Twice. But he head kicked him picture perfect, and Yoel ate it like it was a piece of toast with butter on it. It was nothing. It was just thunk. Still bouncing around like nothing had happened. He looks like a superhero. Like his body's so ridiculous.

He moves. Like when he covers distance, you're like, what the fuck, man? What is he, 36? Yeah. Yeah. He's not young. I believe he's 36 years old. Doesn't look like he's slowed down at all.

Doesn't look like- 37, actually. Doesn't look like it means anything. I bet you it does, though. A little bit. I bet you it does. What, in recovery, you mean? I bet recovery. I bet't look like it means anything. I bet you it does, though. A little bit. I bet you it does. What, in recovery, you mean? I bet recovery.

I bet he can't train as long. I bet to him it's like, good Lord. Jesus Christ. I mean, can he go win the Olympia right now? He's literally a superhero. That's Tiago Alves, bro. Oh. That is Tiago.

That's not what it says. Well, I'm not going to say you're wrong. No? Is that Yoel Romero? That's Romero back in the day. That looks like Tiago. It looks like he's got a belt on, too. Like he's wearing work shorts.

I mean, he's just made for war. Made to war. Yeah, I guess that is Yoel. That's him. He's got a weird look on his face. Look, he looks like Tiago, doesn't he? Yeah, he does. He does.

Let's find another picture of him where you can actually see what he looks like. Look at that ridiculous body. He's unbelievably athletic. I think with a guy like that at 36, and I'm talking some other guys who are a little older. I don't have to mention names. Jesus Christ. Good Lord. He looks like that.

Come on. Good Lord. He's more muscular than the Wolverine. Yeah, in the cartoons. In the cartoons, bro. He looks like a cartoon. That barely looks like a real guy. But for guys at 36 and have that background, and I'm sure there's injuries we don't know about,

there's a timing sensitivity with him. You know what I'm sure there's injuries we don't know about, there's a timing sensitivity with him. You know what I'm saying? He's not going to lose two in a row and be like, well, got to get back on the horse. Let's do this. Nah, man. He's going there. He wants to get those big fights.

Yeah. Oh, no doubt. And not only that, stylistically, think about matching him up with Chris Weidman. I mean, Weidman is known for his striking, and Weidman's known for his wrestling. He's known for both. But who wants to wrestle that guy? Nobody. Who wants to strike with that guy?

Well, I'll tell you what's tough. I think this is where Weidman's going to have an advantage. If Weidman mixes up and drags him into later rounds. Maybe. I don't know, dude. That's what I'm saying. That's your only hope. That's your only hope.

We don't know. He controls fights so well that people say that he gets tired. But the thing is he's just so relaxed in there. And when he takes advantage of anybody moving a certain way, he explodes so much. And any of those guys that explode that much, those guys get tired quicker than a guy like Nick Diaz who just keeps going at the same pace.

Those guys wear out. And being worn out in the middle of the octagon Against a scary guy Is a terrifying place to be So everybody keeps pushing He's tired He's getting tired He's getting tired Like that's what

When he was fighting This past weekend Brad Brad Tavares' corner Ray Cepho was telling him that The guy's tired He's tired He's tired

He's tired He wasn't fucking tired He really wasn't that tired He wasn't that tired But that's why But what else are you gonna say If you're the corner You gotta bank

You gotta bank on that You gotta say You gotta knock this motherfucker out. I agree. Avoid him at all costs, and then sneak attack with crazy shit. Good luck. But the reality of the situation is not good. Okay, let's throw out the window any sort of technical fighting.

It's not looking good. That's why I couldn't be a coach. I'm out of options. Damn, son, this fool is tough. I don't know. I don't know what the fuck we're going to do. Go on full defensive mode. This is what you're going to do.

Full defensive mode, and then occasionally sniper attack, this fool is tough. I don't know. I don't know what the fuck we're going to do. Go on full defensive mode. This is what you're going to do. Full defensive mode and then occasionally sniper attack and then run away. But other than that, I want you running. Always running, Doug. Keep running. We have more fight in us. Let them disqualify you. Yeah, I want them to forget about Caleb Starnes. I don't even want them to remember Caleb Starnes after your performance tonight.

Stay alive, son. There's always the World Series of Fighting. Move! Get on your fucking heels. You ever heard of Bellator? They're interested in you. Run! Run! Can you imagine that? The RFA wants you to be their champion. Run! That's the reality of the business, right?

When you're outclassed physically. When you're outclassed physically that way and it's the second round and you're out of options. Okay, it's not for this guy. No, not you. Because this guy has championship aspirations. But if you're a regular guy that has no shot, if you're one of those mid-level guys that has no shot ever, there's a certain point in time someone has to pull you aside and go, you're still a postman. You always have that.

You're not going to beat Yo Romero. You're not going to beat a two-time world champion. You're not going to beat Royal Yo Romero. It's so fucked up. Just run. He goes back to the corner. Yo, son, reality check. Listen, this guy's so much better. I think what we

should do is... I'm going to call Bellator as soon as we get to the locker room. This is what you want to do. You're going to make up a story about being injured, and then you're going to run. Just run. And while you're running, I want you to think about what you're going to say afterwards in the post-fight interview that's going to make people forgive you for running.

Slip that shit entertaining, dog. Slip and just hit your head and faint. Obviously, we're joking, ladies and gentlemen. Don't get upset. And don't quote this for any fucking... Look at that. Boom! Oh, God. That's ridiculous. He's a beast, dude. He's a beast. And this is just his striking.

Look at that right hand. Oh, my God. That's just his striking. His wrestling, the way he ragdolled Tavares, that was even more impressive. His wrestling is ridiculous. And it's the first fight that he used it in. That's what I'm saying His wrestling, the way he ragdolled Tavares, that was even more impressive. His wrestling is ridiculous. It's the first fight that he used it in. That's what I'm saying. We haven't really seen his wrestling.

I bet when he goes to the gym, it's all striking. Because he's done wrestling so much, it's second nature. It's like Ronda. She's not doing a ton of judo and a gi. None. But when he does, he's going with a high-level judoka like Lombard. Yeah, they train together. Or Tyron Woodley, he's down there, too. Right.

There's a lot of really fucking strong guys. Look how fucking fast he is. That's the 37-year-old. Look at that. Look at that beautiful fucking takedown. Oh, my God. That's all that Greco stuff, man. He's going to get a big, tough fight next.

Look at that elbow. Oh, my God. He's going to get a big name next. Dude, he's easy to sell. He's a goddamn silver medalist and one of the most decorated wrestlers ever. And a nice guy. And a super nice guy. He beat Cale.

Nobody's ever beaten Cale like that twice. He's a beast. And he's interesting, too, because he's super relaxed when he fights, too. Yeah. He's relaxed, calm, calm, calm. Explode. Calm. He's been involved in high-level competition for so long that he just knows the proper mindset for winning.

So gangster. That's what Cormier has, too, man. Cormier is the same, yeah. Cormier has that same thing, man. I feel bad about myself. When you see Cormier? Right now, just watching Yolo Romero, I feel bad about myself. You should.

You're becoming Ian McClellan. We've already established this. You're slowly. I'm losing my hair. I'm getting all my faces more narrow. My nose is getting bigger. I used to be cute. Next podcast, he's going to show up with a scarf on.

We're going to be like, what are you doing? You know I want to be that guy. I love the theater. This reminds me of the theater. A tweed jacket and a small English accent. You'll be like, is Brian having fun? I'm having a wonderful time with you guys, I have to say. It would be really subtle.

It would be like, I must tell you, the fighter and the kid podcast. I'd be like, what's going on with his voice? It's real subtle. It's just an extraordinarily good time. I'll drop some things. You know, we're summer in Cape Cod now, and we had a wonderful time. It would go from the current Callan accent to just weird neutral sound, and then it would slowly morph as time went on. I'll end my end my sentences with Henry Miller once said yes. Is that Steve? That's stevia? Yes

Is that coffee? Yes, it comes from a plant. It's an extract. Of course I'll tell you what was been I spent a great deal of time in the Amazon great people wonderful people down What makes what makes or breaks fights for me like the verdun fight? Most fights it depends who I watch it with. I don't know. Well, obviously, you're always freaking commentating. I'm too busy. But also.

I'd love to watch fights with you guys. Well, what about in Brazil and stuff? Yeah, the ones that I don't do, I would love to watch with you guys. That'd be great. We were doing that for a while. We could set it up in here, too, by the way. We could podcast while we're watching the fights. That's a great idea.

That's brilliant. We could totally do that. It's like you know what you're doing. We could totally do that. When is the next one? Brilliant. In Brazil? Where's Eric Silva?

No, it doesn't have to be Brazil. When is the next fight? Dude, it's probably a fight that we could podcast from this room while the fight is going on. That'd be dope. That's a great idea. Just do it on Ustream and just let everybody know. Listen, this is not a regular podcast, okay?

If you're expecting cohesive content, something to make sense. We're all over. Turn this off right now because what we're doing is we're watching fights. That's right. So if you want a companion to watching the fights, we'll sync this up. You want free educated opinions. Yeah, but it'll be fun to do. Oh, shit.

JDS versus Miocic. Oh, shit. That's way. That's in May. There's a bunch of fights before that. You got Munoz, Musasi. And what's before that? That's the one. Oh, shit. That's way. That's in May. There's a bunch of fights before that. You got Munoz, Musashi. And what's before that? That's the one.

That fight sports. Brown, Silva. May 10th. Can we do it? Can we do it, boys? Yes, we can do it. We can do it. That's a good goddamn fight, too.

I'm here. Travis Brown, Eric Silva. Let's do it. Matt Brown. Yeah. Did I say Travis Brown? You did. Matt Brown.

Sorry. Matt Brown, Eric Silva. Matt Brown's a beast. And Matt Brown's coming off of, sorry, Matt. Matt Brown is coming off of back surgery, too. Or not back surgery, excuse me, a back injury. He had a disc that herniated on him, and he had a hard time in the middle of camp. Hurt his back.

Eric Silva's fun to watch. By the way, Eric Silva might be a little better looking than Big Brown. I'm going to be honest with you. What the fuck, guys? Dude, I'm sorry. That's just rude. You see me in this tank? You're a cute guy, but he's a cutie pie. He's got that hair in his eyes almost. I know. Matt Brown's a fucking animal, you. Fuck the fuck, guys. Dude, I'm sorry. That's just rude. You see me in this tank? You're a cute guy, but he's a cutie pie.

He's got that hair in his eyes almost. I know. Matt Brown's a fucking animal, dude. He's small, too. He breaks guys. Matt Brown's pace is what sets it. These guys just can't keep up with the pace. What's your call on that fight?

There's no call. I never make a call, but he's ferocious. Brown is fucking ferocious. It's not just his pace. It's his mind. The fucking dude overcomes. I agree. Overcomes guys.

I don't think he's the most athletic, but it's just his pace and demeanor beats guys. High level guys. You got him over Eric? I'm like, Joe, I never make picks. It's not good to make picks. It doesn't make any sense. However,

the reason why we should definitely watch fights together is, for me, it's tough to watch fights. It's super tough to watch. It will literally ruin a fight for me, it's tough to watch fights. It's super tough to watch. It depends. It will literally ruin a fight for me. Oh, because I've been with him where dudes will start asking him questions. Well, like Ronda is a very close friend of mine. It's different when you watch fighters you know fight, right?

Right. I'm trying to order the pay-per-view, and the main card's about to start. My fucking cable won't work, right? So I'm freaking out. I'm like, what am I doing? Sweating. I'm not going to go to a bar.

Not a chance I'm showing up to a bar watching a UFC fight. Right. Because you just get harassed. You would get mobbed. So I'm like, what am I going to do? So I text my coach, Tony, who lives in Santa Monica. I'm like, bro, I need you to get the fights. He's like, bro, I'm over this guy's house.

I know you hate watching other people. Everyone knows this about me. He goes, I know you hate watching other people. No one's really here, man. Come to the basement. This guy, they probably won't know who you are. Just come. it's the only thing you do i race down there i make it just in time there's like two guys there but they're pretty drunk and i come in with a hood you know they can't really tell so i just sit down all of a sudden these dudes are starting to pack in you've heard this story brian these

guys are packing in right and i'm like dang i'm getting i just get uncomfortable because i'm like man they start asking me questions blah blah so finally one of the guys he was probably 50 years old highest shit which is whatever yeah i know you guys support that highest shit cheeto fingers the fuck cheeto fingers grateful dead t-shirt right i want to give a motivational talk But he looks over at me And just goes Oh shit, Brendan Shaw I'm like, what's up man So from there I'm taking pictures of the guys watching the fight

It's my nightmare I'm like, oh no And this is why it's my nightmare During the middle of the fight One of the guys goes, hey bro Do you know Max Holloway No not Max Holloway bro, hey, bro, do you know Max Holloway? No, not Max Holloway. He has some random name. Do you know Max Billy? Do you know Max Billy? I go, how would I know him? He goes, he wrestled me in high school, man. Yeah? How would I

know a guy who wrestled with you in high school? He goes, all you wrestlers, man, all you wrestlers stick together, bro. And that's the kind of shit i'm dealing with during fights and then this is the best part then ronda's walking out one guy they they have no idea right ronda and i are close he goes bro stands up would you fuck her who would you fuck her one guy goes hell no man way too big one guy guy goes, oh, hell yeah. I would tap that. I let her arm bar me, and I'm literally sitting there like, oh, no. Brendan ends up locking the door and beating, slapping everybody with an open hand. I wish. Now's the time for spanking. Literally, as soon as the Sarah McMahon fight, she knees the girl and gets out of there.

I literally bolt out the door. Well, see ya. Thanks for the fight. And dart out the door. So long, Mr. Orner. It's tough, man. It's tough to watch fights. Yeah, you don't want to watch anything that you care about with morons.

No. Because they're going to talk over it. All they do is talk the whole fight. Bro, so what are you thinking here? You get nervous before a fight? Does it hurt? No. Does it hurt?

No. Does it hurt when you get punched in the face? Does it hurt when you get punched in the face? Listen, if I'm home, we'll do them right here, man. It's perfect. We have two TVs here, another TV out there. We're good. That's exciting.

I usually prefer to watch them by myself in the dark. Jacking off with my tears. I watch them almost always. Jacking off my tears because I'm not fighting. Just, oh, it could be me. Crying on my dick. Or I'll watch them with Brian, and he'll be like, bro, my friend, my expert, bro. Expert.

That's what Brian does. My friend's an expert. Oh, really? He's picking the six to one favorite to win? Oh, wow. Genius. Genius. He's good, though.

No, he's not. Do you have friends that are experts, Brian? Well, our buddy, he's both our friends, actually. He's a good fighter. He's a tough guy. What's Brennan? What? Brennan just shook his head.

Well, I mean, he knows what he's talking about, though. He wrestled and fought. There's a lot of ums going on there. I don't feel a confidence in your statements. Brian throws the word fight around a lot. He's pretty uncanny with his picks. How good do you think he is? Well, I mean, as far as...

A big John Jones to win has to be good. Well, he won nationals in jiu-jitsu. He trained with John Machado. No, no, no. That's not what we asked, silly. We asked how good are his picks. Oh, almost 100%. Almost 100%. I disagree 100% because he's a wrestler, so he supports

Sarah McMahon, and Brian goes, Shob, what do you think of Sarah McMahon versus Ronda Rousey? And I go, Sarah McMahon, very talented fighter. It will be the easiest fight in her career. I guarantee you. Because I see Ronda's training. I know Sarah McMahon.

I see what she's done. I'm telling you, it's going to be her easiest fight. And he argues, oh, it's going to be the hardest fight in her career. Whatever. Easiest fight in Ronda's career, so that's whatever. That may be so. However, let's talk about this with Ronda, though. The reason why these girls are fucked when they fight Ronda, because the same thing is the Mike Tyson effect.

These girls go from fighting on Facebook prelims, they win one fight, and they go, hey, great job. Ronda doesn't have anyone to fight. Here you go, main event, prime time. Hey, whose phone is going off doesn't have anyone to fight. Here you go. Main event. Prime time. Hey, whose phone is going off? Not mine. What is that?

Is that a clock? What in the world? Would somebody set an alarm? Why is there an alarm on it? Give me that stupid thing. But regardless, his picks are way better than both of ours. Not better than mine. It. Not that I mind. It's 7-6.

That's weird. It's 7-6. That's a weird alarm. That was a sign. That was a sign. 7-6, ladies and gentlemen. Is that bomb about to go off? I don't even know how to set it.

Anyway. You definitely got that from Target. That's scary. Yeah, I could never watch fights with morons. I've done it before. It's brutal. They ask too many questions, and they're disrespectful, too. He's a bitch.

He's scared. He's a bitch. Like, oh. Yeah, at that same party, the guy goes, bro, armbar all day. All day. Bro, they're on their feet. They're against the cage clinch. There's no fucking armbar.

What are you talking about? Oh, no. You're in the wrong place. Yeah, you should have just left. I would have left for sure. You know, I had to see the fight, though. I would have grabbed my friend and fucking cock-slapped him, too. I know. He didn't know either, though.

He didn't know either. It is the worst. It is the worst. But he's inviting idiots over his house. I should not know who's coming to his house. Oh, that guy wasn't my friend. And I roasted him on the fire and the kid that next morning, and they all heard it. And then the next day, I go to the gym.

And, you know, they're just regular students. I go to the gym. I can tell them, like, son of a bitch. But I want to be like, yo, Cheeto Fingers, come here. Cheeto Fingers, come here. Let me talk to you. I'm going to give a pep talk. You're 50.

Put down the Cheetos. Ditch the shirt. Let's go for a jog. Wow, how rude. But necessary. Cheeto Fingers. Sometimes necessary, man. Sometimes necessary.

Some dudes need to be heard. I think so. They need to hear that shit. They don't want to, but they need necessary. Some dudes need to be heard. I think so. They need to hear that shit. They don't want to, but they need it. But most people are surrounding themselves with people that tell the truth. You want to pep talk from a lion and a gazelle? I'm giving it for free, man. Wow.

Wow. That's fucked. That's fucked, man. There was a girl I dated who was a really pretty girl and a nice girl. No way. I'm stopping right there. I'm going to check out. You're full of shit. I don't believe a fucking word that comes next. Hey, guys, wait a minute, man. I nice girl. No way. Yeah. I'm stopping right there. I'm going to check out. You're full of shit.

I don't believe a fucking word that comes next. Hey, guys, wait a minute, man. I'm not even done with the story. And her breath was, I mean, it smelled like an open grave. Like, I've never, it was the craziest thing I've ever smelled in my life. An open grave. That's a deal breaker, by the way. Deal breaker?

I remember we were at the elevator. That depends on how hot she is. And I was excited about dating her, and I went, that's weird. It's impossible that someone's mouth can smell like that. That's not possible. So I go, eh. She's probably doing meth. Well, no.

Or sucking tons of dick, right? I'll tell you what happened. Right? Or sucking big, nasty dicks. Nope, nope. So she couldn't get. So anyway, long story short, we're in the elevator. I'm like, then we get in a cab.

This is in New York. And I go, all right, there's a situation here. She'll eat. I just're in the elevator. I'm like, then we get in a cab. This is in New York. And I go, all right, there's a situation here. She'll eat. I just want to get laid. I'm young. I'm like, she'll eat. It'll be fine. I don't know what's going on.

I'm not going to pay attention. I'm not going to pay attention. You know, you're just like, it can't be. We get to her place. We start making out. And I'm telling you, it was beyond anything I've ever smelled. It was like a parent's tongue

covered in shit. Yeah, I go, oh, look at the time. I don't know what I did. I was like, let me get out of here. I'm such a bitch that I actually

didn't want to be rude. I think I kissed her a little more and I was like, hold your breath. I say to her friend, I go, listen, I got to tell you,

your friend is great. She's got the worst breath and she goes, ah, we all talk about that. But no one tells her, right? I go, how long have you known? She goes, oh my God, all through college. She could got the worst breath. And she goes, we all talk about that! How long have you known? She goes, oh my god, all through college, she could never get a date, she could never hold a man. I go, well, can you tell her

you're her friend? Her whole life is ruined because it's embarrassing. Tell her that her breath smells like an open grave. You've got to tell her that. That's a tough talk to have with someone, man. It depends on your friends. I've had a friend who's a fighter.

I'm not going to mention names. He's not very good. Things haven't been going his way. He asked me what I should do. I said, I think you should get a job. Wow. Yeah. But that's your doing somebody a service.

That's being a friend, though. That's being a friend. No, man. Keep playing grab ass and hopefully things work out for you. You might be the best ever, bro. Do you know how many people in acting class for years I sat there going, the note should be quit. Quit.

You. It's never going to happen. You got to just go back to college. Brian and I were talking about this on the ride here. Do you believe like talent, like you're born with talent, either have it or you're not, or is it a clean slate? And from experiences. It's definitely not a clean slate 100 because people that are more talented at almost everything whether it's comedy whether it's music whether it's either you got it or you

don't right physical talent without a doubt it varies wildly without it varies so wildly there's advantages that certain people have that are so undeniable is this fucking thing oh my god it's killed us. What is it? Well, the physical talent, David Epstein's book, The Sports Gene. He makes that case. He proves that. It's amazing. Figure this out.

I feel like a bomb's going to go off. I hope it's not. It's supposed to be just a nice little clock. How does it? It gives you a 10-minute warning? Is that what it was? Did you read that book, Joe? It's like a be just a nice little clock. How does it... It gives you a 10-minute warning? Is that what it was? Did you read that book, Joe? No, because then it's like a minute to six now.

Do you read that? Do you hear that book, The Sports Gene? You told me about it a thousand times, but I have not read it. Good book. But it's without a doubt true. There's certain athletes that just have a huge advantage. But the same thing with mental. I mean, I think some people are just naturally better at math, for example.

Sorry. Yes, it's 100% true. It's 100% true. There's certain people that have a more eloquent way of describing things. It's fascinating. There's certain people that are better storytellers. Better at reading human emotion. And I don't know why. I don't know if it's a learned skill.

I think certainly storytelling is a learned skill. It depends on who you're around when you're growing up, I think, too. And I think that if you're a guy who's been around a fuck, if your dad's boring as fuck and you're boring as fuck and then finally at 30 you meet a bunch of charismatic people who know how to spin a yarn, too late. You're so far behind the eight ball, you're never going to figure out how to be interesting. So you better get rich. There's an evolutionary biologist by the most

famous name Steven Pinker out of Harvard University. Sure, I know he is. And he wrote a book called The Blank Slate which I'm reading now about that saying we're not a blank slate. You can certainly learn a great deal as a human being. There's a great, we have huge potential to change our lives with what we learn. But the fact of the matter is most of the science proves the fact that some people have a proclivity for, you know,

chess over whatever it might be. Not only that, there's some people that have a lot of aspects of their life that were completely beyond their control until they became an adult. Like their childhood, how they were raised, who raised them, who abused them, who fucked them up, who put them in a bad situation, what kind of fears. Yeah, what that did to their brain chemistry. Terrible things, without a doubt. The wiring of the way they think.

With sports, it's different, too. I've given major college teams talks, stuff like that. A gym, I won't say any names. They go, Brendan, come talk with these guys. Tell them, man. Tell them. A lot of the guys aren't hitting mitts or they're not showing up for training. They're not doing this, not doing that.

I told them. I said, I mean, I'll talk to them. You don't want me to talk to them because I'm a sport. I'm very cutthroat, right? I've seen it all, man. I'm very cutthroat, right? I've seen it all, man. I said, listen, if someone has to give you a pep talk and tell you to show up every day and train, it's too late.

You don't have it. Yeah. Because I know guys who, like, they literally have, don't give me gym keys. I will be in that bitch 24-7. Do not give me a gym key because I will overtrain like a motherfucker. So with these guys not even showing up, and I know other guys just like me who aren't in the UFC, and we can't even get you to come to practice, you're not that passionate about it, you're wasting your time. So the pep talk for me to you is go get a job.

Yeah, if you're not completely obsessed, it's not something you should be into. Not a chance. You're actually fighting. Yeah, you shouldn't be dabbling in fighting. No. not something you should be into. Not a champion. You shouldn't be fighting. Yeah, you shouldn't be dabbling in fighting. No. If you have to get a pep talk from a guy who you might, whatever, look

up to who's in the UFC, where you want to be at, he inspires you to get your ass in the gym. It's too late. I always use the Mike Tyson analogy. I say, imagine that you're a guy who says, you know what, I'm just going to have a few fights. I'm just going to, you know, I'll give it a shot. I'll give it a go. I'll have an adventure.

What if on the other side of that adventure is a guy like Mike Tyson who's completely obsessed? Not only is he genetically gifted, not only is he freakishly fast for a heavyweight, not only is he trained by a guy who's become his mentor, who's one of the greatest minds the world of boxing has ever known, Customato, when it comes to psychology and the the the the pumping up of a fighter and changing the fighters mentality custom auto was a bad

motherfucker he would tell guys things that they would be able to carry with them for the rest of their lives look at tyson's career when he passed away yeah well even after he got rid of kevin rooney yeah who was the last bond to custom auto but custom auto would tell him shit like food you know fire is it can either be your friend or it could be your enemy. You could either cook your food with it or if you can't control it, it'll burn your whole house down. Fear is like fire. And that fear, if you can

control it, it'd make you a better fighter. So you're saying Billy McGee, who's not doing this, is going to get tore up. He's going to get monster fucked. He's going to get... He's going to get Marvin Frazier He's going to get... You could get hurt forever. He's going to get Marvin Frazier. Yes.

Marvin Frazier fought Tyson. With the afro? And Tyson came out guns blazing. The most horrific display of destruction I think I've ever seen in the heavyweight division. Because it was never a matter of whether or not Marvis was going to win. It was a matter of how many seconds it was going to take before Tyson landed the boom on him. And as soon as he cornered him, he just started mauling him. And, you know, Marvis had a a famous dad Joe Frazier was his dad But he was never a guy that was a monster

He was never a guy that was a skate so you can run into a monster Even if you're Marvis Frazier monster imagine if it's you forget about anybody else imagine if it's you Look at I'm looking down. Yeah, he's terrified This was when Tyson was before even fought for the title and this was one of the big fights that sort of cemented in everybody's idea that he was the next coming. Because Marvis Frazier had had some good fights.

He looked pretty good. He looked like a good boxer. He was really well-trained. But Tyson was a demon. Like, look how calm and loose he was as he paced around the ring. It's ridiculous. We've played this on the podcast

no less than five times just because, in my opinion, it's one of the most devastating heavyweight performances in the history of the sport and a perfect example. And it was on ABC. I would have loved to have seen Frazier fight Tyson. Mike Tyson would have done the same thing to Joe Frazier. Probably, right?

A lot of people say, no, he wouldn't. You've got to watch the Frazier-Forman fight. Frazier always had a problem with it. Look at Jim Lampe, you sexy bitch. Look at him. Damn, doing the damn thing. Jim Lampe. You want to talk about someone passionate about boxing.

Oh, yeah, he loves it. He talks a lot of shit about MMA, unfortunately. No, I think he's coming around. I think he's coming around. I heard an interview lately where I think he's being cool. That Gotti, the Gotti, the legendary Knights, the Gotti Ward. The Gotti Ward, he starts crying. Oh, man, that was amazing.

It's hard not to tear up yourself. Look at this, man. Look at this. And Joe Frazier, he's got to know that his son is going to get crushed. You think he knew? Yeah, he kind of, I mean, probably not. You have to have an idea. But you've got to have an idea.

I mean, he knows what his son's capable of. That's Rooney right there. That's Kevin Rooney, yeah. This is after custom monitor. He died, but look how jacked, Gary jacked. How would he have done in MMA the same? He would have smoked people. He would have been terrifying.

I disagree. If you taught him how to get as good at everything else. I disagree. I think it's tough to say that. Why? It's tough to say that. You're right. Because he's a very undersized heavyweight.

He would have gotten picked up. Like, Jon Jones would have picked him apart all day outside. Who's to say he would have been heavyweight? He could have easily been 205. He only weighed about 218. Probably 185. Wow, that's crazy to think. And you mean because he would have had to deal with kicks and stuff?

Wrestling. It's hard to say, man. A lot of guys, they don't want to wrestle. They don't want to do jiu-jitsu. They hate grappling. So even if you have seen the option. Push ahead so you can see the actual fight itself. It doesn't look like it's that much.

No, no, no. Back it right about there is good. Ding. Here it goes. He was an option. Push ahead so you can see the actual fight itself. It doesn't look like it's that much. No, no, no. Back at right about there is good. Ding. Here it goes. He was so fast. He was so unmanageable. You couldn't. That was the other thing you were talking about in the fight with Jon Jones.

Trying to find out. Here we go. Look at this. I mean, they don't even get a close-up on him fast enough to see the destruction as it's going down. They started the cameras way in a pull-out, but they don't realize that Tyson just charged at you from the beginning of the round. You can't just start the camera way back. Well, you can't find sparring partners that mimic. They're fucked up. Listen, in the UFC... Here it is.

Bump. Oh. Bump, bump. Bang, bang, bang. Oh, no. Honestly, that's a terrible video, by the way. Oh, no. That's one of the worst copies of the YouTube video. Whoever put that up, take it down. Get yourself some HD stuff. Oh, that's not right, though, to get your head knocked in. Listen, when you fight Mike Tyson, when you fight Jon Jones,

when you fight these certain guys, you get one shot at them, and it's live with millions of people watching because you cannot duplicate in the gym. You get one real-life shot. Right. That's why people have so many problems with these guys. Jon Jones, listen, there's no one in your gym the size of John Jones doing these weird kicks and throwing these weird angles

and doing these shoulder locks against the cage. You get one real-life go at it, and by the time you figure out, it's too late. Yeah, he's so creative, too. That's why these guys are so damn good. Mike Tyson, too. You're telling me he was training with a guy as quick as Tyson? I've seen Tyson do that arm wrench they did on Glover. I've seen Tyson do that. Tyson did that on Glover. I've seen Tyson do that.

Tyson did that to Evander Holyfield. Take it easy. Check yourself. Remember that? A lot of boxers have done that. They'll do it a little bit. They just haven't done it the way John did it. No, not to that extent.

Because John did it in a legal way. He clamped his hands together and did it. Oh, okay. He put some leverage in it. He's also taller, so he's able to. John's a fucking beast wrestler, man. He's got really good grappling. The way he manhandles guys inside the clinch, the way he takes guys down, he's

a beast wrestler. I think that Alexander Gustafson fight was the best thing ever to happen to John. John was like, alright, I need to pick it up here, and he has. What do you mean by that, though? I think when you're going through fights like he was, these title shots where he wasn't really getting tested, he was destroying guys. Right.

I mean, it's hard not to believe your own hype. Believe me, I was 4-0, knocked out Mirko Krokop, and I thought I was freaking God's gift to the UFC. And I was like, all right. I was still training my ass off. I literally didn't think I could lose. I was like, eh, whatever. Just keep doing my thing.

Just going to keep knocking everybody out. It's whatever. I feel like John Maida slid into that a little bit, where you're like, bro, this is dope. I'm just destroying everyone. slid into that a little bit where you're like, bro, this is dope. I'm just destroying everyone. And then you get a guy like Alexander who's just as big, just as long. I think John was like, I need to step my game up here.

And he just absolutely dismantled Glover Teixeira. And that's why. Maybe. It could be also a stylistic thing, too. Gustafson has really good clean striking. That's part of it. For sure that's part of it. He said John Jones didn't perform like he used to at 172. Man, I couldn't agree with that anymore.

Well, Alexander's just trying to stay, right? He's trying to hype this fight. He gets the next fight anyway. He gets the next fight. For sure. But he's been talking all sorts of smack. Yeah. Well, of course.

He's saying Jon Jones doesn't want to fight me. Jon Jones is scared of me. What else are you going to do? Well, he's got to say all that. You have to. That's how you hype things up. What are you going to do? It's an interesting fight, man.

I'll tell you that. After the first fight, it's an interesting fight. I think you're going to see a way better Jon Jones in this fight, but I think you're going to see a better Gustafson, too. I think it won't be as close as the last. Why? No, I think one of them. I don't think it's going to be as close.

I think one of them is going to pull away. I'm not going to make a pick, but I think one is going to pull away. Man, I don't know. It could be. You never know. I'll tell you what. Fabricio Verdum is a tougher matchup for Kane than Travis Brown. It's all about matchups.

I think Fabricio poses a lot of threats to Kane. Yeah. You don't realize how big Fabricio is. He's big. He's big. Travis Brown wasn't that much bigger than him. Not that much taller. No, Fabricio was light for that fight, too.

He's losing weight. He got down to 230. That's what people, that's what guys are doing. Look at Travis Brown came in at, what, 230? Why are they doing that? That's cardio.. That's what people, that's what guys are doing. Like Travis Brown came in at what, 230? Why are they doing that? Cardio. Cardio. Kane, like it's a copycat league. So Kane's destroying cats and then everyone's like, oh that's

cool. I'm 260 pounds. I can't make it that long. I can't keep that pace. All of a sudden everyone's getting lighter. Kane's cardio is very unusual physically too. He's got very unusual cardio just from genetics. He's cardio is very unusual physically, too. He's got very unusual cardio just from genetics. He's not your most explosive athlete,

but as far as stamina goes, he's a 10 out of 10. He puts his head in your chest and just... He's just so good. He's just such a good fucking athlete. His stamina is incredible. And his technique, everything he throws, he doesn't have any wasted motion. You never see him biting his teeth down, throwing wild heat makers.

Everything he's thrown is perfect technique. Right? Brennan, what do you think of his boxing? What's the most impressive part of his game besides his cardio for you? See, for me, obviously his boxing, his wrestling is amazing, stuff like that. What's amazing to me is he never lets the moment get to him. I was talking about this. Brian was asking about the Andre Arlovsky fight.

And I said this, and now that I'm getting a little more experience, this will be my 10th or 11th fight in the UFC, which is a lot. And it's not letting the moment get to you. You don't let the moment get so big where you get freaked out. And that happened to me in Brazil. When I fought Nogueira, it's the first time ever i was like what the fuck am i doing freaked out went in there throwing these crazy uppercuts i didn't throw uppercuts i was throwing leg kicks that's not my thing i'm throwing leg kicks uppercuts literally i watched that film like who the

fuck is that guy the moment got to me where i was like dang this is a big moment i beat this guy probably gonna fight brock lesnar next that's what i was told probably gonna fight brock lesnar next so i'm i'm thinking of all these crazy situations. That's when the moment gets to you. So with Andrei Orlovsky, and you asked what's so impressive about Cain Velasquez, dude, never have you seen that guy freak out. Never have you seen him like, oh, what am I going to do, and start fighting unlike himself.

He sticks to a game plan, and mentally he's just so solid. That's the difference. Like he said against Junior Dos Santos this last fight, in the third round he goes, man, I was tired, I was exhausted, but I knew if I kept pushing, he couldn't match this pace. Well, that's a championship mindset. A lot of guys keep going, yeah, I'm going to coast it out here. He didn't.

I like what Winklejohn said to Jon Jones, go out there and have fun. Yeah, they kept saying that. That's what it's about. They kept saying that in this corner. Stay loose. Just have fun. Well, They kept saying that. That's what it's about. They kept saying that in this corner. Stay loose. Just have fun. Well, he's at his best when he's creative. Yeah.

And he knows he's putting on a show. And when he's putting on a show with a guy like Glover, part of the way to put on a show is do shit that nobody saw coming. When he put his hands down? Yeah. Roy Jones style? What? How about when he got up against the cage?

He just was rolling with every shot that Glover was throwing. That was crazy. Because Glover can punch. And just blasted him with elbows. And punches as well. I mean, it was just stellar performance. Picked him apart and just showed that he's still getting better too. Like that was the best he's ever looked.

He's getting better. I agree. Plus he was throwing shit like wheel kicks and stuff that you never saw coming. You know, like Jesus Christ, his spinning back kick is outstanding now. It's crazy. He's got a really good spinning back kick now.

Yeah, he does. You know, damn. So many really, really high-level matchups these days. And so many fighters getting better every time you see them. It's just... You have to. You have to. You have no choice.

So this goes back to that. So if you're not passionate about the sport, especially mixed martial arts, but in life in general, if you're not passionate, so one is. You know what I'm saying? So you cannot keep up, especially in pro sports what did you think about get the fuck out of here what did you think about edson barboza donald serrani what you think about that that was crazy yeah cowboy's my boy right and i always tell brian this when cowboy walks out from the tunnel i can usually tell if he's gonna win or not if cowboy is mentally

ready he's the best 155 in the world to me i'll say i'm a little biased i think he's one of the very best in the world when donald lets the moment get to him, Donald doesn't fight like Donald. The Dos Angeles fight, that's not Donald. When he fought Anthony Pettis, that's not Donald. You can just tell he doesn't want to be in there. This fight, I couldn't really tell. I was on the fence. And then when he came out, I was like, oh, no.

He's getting his ass whooped. And then this huge jab drops Bar barboza yeah and then he ended up taking his back he took some bombs before that took some bombs he's getting picked apart well he caught some crazy hooks he caught right and left kicks yeah you could tell barboza had a speed advantage was mixing it up i was like oh no cowboy this isn't good and then dropped him then got his back jumped on him like a spider monkey. Got his back. Choked him out. Then everything's all good.

But now you got Khabib. Nemeg Medov. Khabib calling him out. He's a rough. Rough? Khabib is like a rough. Where's he from? Siberia?

They posted this fool wrestling a grizzly bear at six. Rough? What the fuck are you going to do? While I was playing grab ass with the girls in the playground, this fool's wrestling bears. No doubt. How can he compete? With that head. He's got that jaw.

Thank God he's at 155. What the fuck are we going to do? He's so aggressive, that fucking guy, too. His grappling is so ridiculous. Monster, man. He beat the, I mean, he made Los Angeles look like they were in the same league. Yeah, it's hard to imagine. Los Angeles is a badass, man.

Yeah, he is. Yeah, the kid's got ridiculous grappling. Some of the best grappling I've ever seen inside the octagon. Really? Just so aggressive with his takedowns. Aggressive and changes things up, changes angles, and then gives you a difference in gears. You know, like he switches gears on you.

Right. Speeds up his approach, slows it down, drops down when you think he's going to stand up. Mixes it up. He trains at AKA. I asked DC, I asked Cormier, we do a show together, UFC Now, and I asked him, we were doing some breakdown stuff on Khabib, and I go, is he that good?

He goes, he is, man. And you really haven't seen anything yet. In the gym, he's just a monster. Yeah. Samba was a great background, man. It's one of the best backgrounds ever for UFC. I agree. Because it's high-level grappling.

There's a lot of really tough Russian guys you're competing against. Yeah, you're competing with fucking animals. And these guys are really good at transitioning. Well, I think Fedor started as a Sambo guy, didn't he? Yeah, he was combat Sambo world champion. Yeah. He's kind of the face of it. Look at that.

That's not real. No, there's an actual video of him as a kid rolling around with a fucking grizzly bear. And the grizzly bear's, like, defending rear naked grizzly bear and the grizzly bear is like defending rare naked chokes and shit this grizzly bear is like a blue belt in jiu-jitsu i don't know where they found this bear it's legit i was at the san diego zoo and i was watching mountain gorillas wrestle the little mountain gorillas like the the adolescents and the babies they have great technique they're just natural wrestlers here he is here it is and everything oh really brian while you're playing when you were dancing your ass off, this guy's wrestling with a bear.

Look at the bear. Double leg. What? That bear is an Asian. Wait a minute. That's not him, is it? Is this the right video? That's what YouTube says.

I think so, man. That's the one the UFC posted. And then Khabib confirmed it that it was him. Look at that. He's a little kid. He's wrestling with a goddamn bear. That's insane. Right?

That's so cool. What kind of bear is that? I called and yelled at my dad. What the fuck was my bear? It's a baby bear. Still, though. Yeah, it's still. For sure.

You kidding me? I wouldn't fuck with that bear. Look, and that bear's aggressive as shit, too. Strong animal. That bear's like a dick in the wrestling room. How cool is that, though? How cool would that be as a pet? I want that as a pet.

I want a bear badly right now. No, you don't, because you'd ignore it. It'd be in your backyard waiting for days and days for you to come home. And then one day someone would go into your backyard and not know that the bear likes to wrestle people and fucking take him down and scream and sue you. I just got back from the road, yeah. Exactly. Wrestle people. You're not home enough to have a bear that wrestles people.

I'm not. I'm not home enough to have a bear that wrestles people. I'm not. I'm not home enough to have a bear that wrestles people. And I want one so badly right now. You're not home enough, dude. It's not fair. No chimps, no bears. Definitely no chimps. It's just not fair.

Cute when they're little. Who's Johnny Hendricks going to fight against next? Johnny Hendricks will fight the winner of Woodley. No. Hector Lombard. No. Woodley. And Roy Hector Lombard. No. Woodley. And Roy McDonald.

And Roy McDonald. Fighting June 14th on UFC 174. And that's in Vancouver. That's in Vancouver. We're going to be there for that, Brian Callen. Yeah, I can't wait. The winner of that will get the next title fight, I think. Tyron Woodley is about as big as you can get and be 170.

So weird. He's giant. He's a beast. He's a fucking strong kid, too, man. Fast as shit, too. But then you also got Jake Ellenberger versus your boy Robbie Lawler. That's a tough one, too. There's so many killers.

You start thinking about how competitive this is. Like I said, 170, 155. You better have all your bases covered. You got to be a black belt at everything. And be a hell of an athlete on top of it. And you better be able to sell the fight. That's on the Barauw-TJ Dillashaw fight, right? Isn't that the same card Jake Ellenberger takes on Robbie Lawler?

What is this? That's the 174 card. That's 174. Oh, yeah. See, TJ Dillashaw and Robbie Lawler, yeah, they're on the same card. Orlowski can't get a picture up there, huh? Look at that. And how about Mighty Mouse, man?

He might be the best pound-for-pound guy on the fucking planet. He's good. He might be the most technical pound-for-pound fighter on the planet. I mean, everybody always turns to the big ones, meaning Burrell, Jose Aldo, and Jon Jones. No, the smaller you go, the more talented they are. Mighty Mouse Johnson might be the best. The more well-rounded they are, I agree.

He might be the best. Really? The way he knocked out Benavidez. Who the fuck saw that coming? Who's ever done that to Benavidez? At 125? What? You don't see too many knockouts.

Yeah. Especially at that level. And he takes guys down and submits them, too, in the fourth round against Moraga. I mean, they went to war with John Moraga. They went to war. He eventually is overcoming him with technique, and then he catches him on the ground. He's ahead in the fight, and he's still finishing him with an armbar. That's crazy.

And Moraga's fucking dangerous. Moraga caught him clean with a straight punch right to the mug. And he ate it, readjusted. Yep. Great fight, man. Good fight. Really good fight. He's fucking technical as shit, man.

He's technical. He's a monster. Really technical. And just does, having that guy Matt Hume as your trainer from Jump, that's so big. That's huge. That guy knows so much. Because he creates a base for you, right? Well, he knows so much.

First of all, he was a very good fighter himself. Both Muay Thai, Jiu-Jitsu, he did MMA, fought in, I think he fought in extreme fighting. He fought Pat Militich. He stopped Pat Militich and broke his nose with a knee. Old school. He's really good, but his knowledge, he also was a judge in Pride

for a long time. Damn. Judged a lot of fights in Pride. You would always see Matt Dean on the corner. He was a very stoic-looking guy. The way he behaved, he just always struck me as very stoic. He was a very stoic guy. The way he behaved, he just always struck me as very stoic. He's a smart dude. Yeah. Knows a lot of shit

about fighting. You hear him in the corner when he's giving advice, some of the best advice you'll ever hear. Really? Yeah, very technical.

Very much, you could tell that they've trained for a very specific style of game plan and how to adjust. Makes adjustments, has A plans, B plans.

You could tell the way they're, when he's talking about dj and uh when he was fighting benavidez you know the benavidez is loading up you know like they saw it coming what's weird to me we're not weird but what's cool is the relationship between coaches and fighters like a coach would know what to say to a fighter right like some guys need to be hyped up some guys need to be hyped up where the coach is yelling, screaming at them in between rounds, doing stuff like that. They can be super negative. And then other ones are super calm, relaxed, very Greg Jackson-esque. Yeah, yeah.

And just the difference between that is crazy. When I was on Ultimate Fighter, I had a coach yell at me and slap the shit, slap me so hard, it literally rocked me before walking in the octagon. He slapped me so hard. That's a little spazzy. He was like, come on, let's go. That doesn't work on a guy like you. Who the fuck did that? I was like, huh? Who the fuck did that? Trevor Whitman. Did he really?

Yeah, I was like, huh? Is he out of his fucking mind? What? What are we doing? And I went in the octagon. What if you went down? What are we doing? That works with Clay Guida maybe. His brother only slaps him like 20%. He's not really cocking him in the head. What are we doing? That works with Clay Guida, maybe. Like his brother. Some people like that. His brother only slaps him like 20%. He's not like really cocking him in the head.

He's just slap, slap, slap, slap. Get him, get him. I mean, he's not hurting his brother. Yeah, yeah. Some guys like that. If you watch boxing, if you watch that Garcia, who's the, what's his name? Madonna? Madonna.

Robert Garcia. Yeah, Robert Garcia. Have you seen the way he coaches guys? Very good. Very good coach. Great coach. He worked with Kane recently. He said if Kane took three years off he could be heavyweight champion. Wow. As a boxer. Yeah. Wow. In three years. That's saying a lot. You'd have to get him the right

fights, build him up strong. For three years he'd be heavyweight champion. That's saying a lot. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean the heavyweight boxing picture is... Please. Vladimir, what is his name? Klitschko is a beast. Klitschko?

He's a beast. He's a fucking beast. He's a very good boxer. Klitschko, yes. No one in MMA is hearing a peep out of Klitschko. He's going to destroy guys. So how is Robert Garcia think that Cain Velasquez is going to beat Klitschko? Well, what else is he going to say?

I mean, it's his boy. I don't know. That's a stretch. That's a stretch. It's an interesting thing. It is. I would like to see him try to do it. I would think that would be fascinating to see what he could do.

That's a lot of reach to deal with for Cain, by the way. That's a lot of reach. Sure is. Those Klitschko's fight smart. They throw very few punches. The Klitschko's just that jab and then really conservative. I have a buddy. This is a funny story about the Klitschko's. I have a very few punches. The Klitschko's just that jab and then really conservative. I have a buddy. This is a funny story about the Klitschko's.

I have a very good friend I played college football with. When I first came to L.A., he was dating Klitschko's fiancée now, or wife, I don't know if they got married, Hayden Panetteri. He was dating her, and he's going to kill me for telling this story. Don't tell the story then. Well, it's not too bad. It's not too bad. So he's dating this girl.

Klitschko and her are not dating. And he thinks he's all paranoid. He's all worried because freaking Klitschko. Yeah, he's a star. And so a car's behind him. And he doesn't know if this is true or not. But he thinks Klitschko has someone tailing him. You know what I'm saying?

So he calls me up. Bro, get over here, man. I think something's about to go down. You know me. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, I think something's about to go down. He goes, I think, you know, I'm dating this girl. I think her ex-boyfriend.

At that time, I had no idea who he was dating or what he was talking about. He goes, I think your ex-boyfriend's trailing me. I go, who the fuck's her ex-boyfriend? He goes, Klitschko. I go, the heavyweight boxer? He goes, yeah. I go, I-boyfriend's trailing you. Who the fuck's your ex-boyfriend? He goes, the heavyweight boxer? He goes, yeah. I go, I'm not fucking coming down there. He goes, yeah, bro, you can take him down. I go, no, I

like that guy. And if you're fucking with this girl, that's what you get, man. He goes, no, you're broken up. Fuck off, man. He's 6'6", 243. That's a big boy. Shredded, man. Shredded. That's a lot to deal with. Yeah.

And just won with a ridiculous fifth round knockout. Well, you know who we should be talking about is Bernard Hopkins at 49. Won another title. It's so ridiculous. How's he doing that? Brendan Chobb. How the fuck's he doing that? How's Bernard Hopkins winning titles at 49?

Tell me. He's training smart and it's just his ring experience. He's just destroying these youngsters, right? But isn't that incredible? 49 years old. That's an incredible thing. How smart can he be training? I agree. He's beating guys in his 20s. I can't explain it.

He's destroying guys. I can't explain it. He dropped the dude in the 11th round. He looks a little old in that picture. I was going to say, he doesn't look that old. He's not old enough. It's dropped the dude in the 11th round. He boxed circles around him. In many ways, he's doing- You know what? He looks a little old in that picture. Look at him. He's got gray. I was going to say, he doesn't look that old. He looks old.

Not old enough. It's just the gray in his beard. You shave his beard off, he doesn't look old at all. I agree. It's a weird thing, man. He is a freak. How do you explain that? He's doing something that nobody's done in sports ever, maybe.

Well, he's also said that he doesn't need to work out the way everybody works out. Everybody has this idea that you have to work out hours every day. He goes, hours every day for a 30-minute fight? Why do you got to work out hours way everybody works out. Everybody has this idea that you have to work out hours every day. Hours every day for a 30-minute fight? Why do you got to work out hours every day? So he's figured out how to maintain enough fitness to go a 30-minute fight, a 12-round fight. That's because he has all the experience. All he has to do is get in shape.

What's he going to do? What's he going to do? Show him how to throw a jab? He's mastered boxing. He's put in his 10,000 hours. He's mastered boxing, and now he just gets in shape. And stayed. He's never been really hurt.

He's never been really mauled and knocked out. And as far as the training goes, it's funny to me. I had this strength and conditioning coach. I still work with him, Andre Woodard. He's crazy. And he would make me train for an hour and a half. The circuit. We do like 12 rounds.

The circuit, crazy-ass things. And I'm loving it, right? I just love to work out. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. would make me train for an hour and a half the circuit we do like 12 rounds the circuit crazy ass things and i'm loving it right i just love to work i'm doing i'm doing it and this guy who doesn't know shit about the fc never seen the fc goes what are you getting ready for man i got a fight coming up he goes oh yeah uh a 12 round fight huh i go no no it's only three rounds he goes oh like 10 minute rounds or i go no they're uh three five minute rounds he goes and you've been here for about you've been here longer than me man how long you been i go about an hour and a half he goes oh that's cool and i could tell he's like what and then when i and then into the locker room i was like this guy's totally right this

jackass who has no idea what i'm training you like yeah i was like what are we doing so i sat down with my coach and was like yo man my fight's 15 minutes been here for an hour and a half doing all this crazy shit we need to cut that down and so tim ferris did this like he looked at how much olympic track athletes when they're when they're strength training and they they lift heavy weights do a lot he took a look at how much they actually are spending. If you actually time the amount of time they're lifting weights where the weights are in the air,

it's something really crazy. 20 minutes a month. It's very, very little. They're maxing out. Well, that's different. That's track. What are you talking about? That's ridiculous. You're talking about lifting weights, though. It's a completely different thing to fighting.

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying it doesn't... Like, for strength training, when they're trying to get stronger, what's interesting is that power lifting and stuff, they don't lift nearly as much as you'd think. You know, it's the amount of time you actually... Right, but that's not what he's talking about at all. Well, he's talking about overtraining. He's talking about fighting.

He's talking about overtraining. No, no, no. He's talking about specific rounds where you're fighting. It's totally unrelevant. Well, what I'm saying is that people over-train. Pull up this. Klitschko KOs. Look up Vladimir Klitschko.

Klitschko returns three belts in ESPN. You've got to see the highlight of him fucking stopping that dude. What's amazing about Bernard Hopkins is that he's able to control the pace of every fight he gets in. Even if the guy's really good, he's able to control the pace of the fight. I'd like to know his diet. Yeah. What are we doing here? Well, he's very into healthy foods.

You know, he doesn't eat anything processed. He doesn't eat anything stupid. He doesn't drink. He doesn't do drugs. He doesn't fuck around. He doesn't party or anything. He's one of those Floyd Mayweather. Doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs.

Smart. But he does eat fast food. That drives me nuts. Yeah, I think probably a lot of it he does for the camera. I think he's being silly. I bet he does a lot of it for the camera. Look at this. Look at Klitschko.

Look at that jab. He's so big, man. He's just so long and tall. Check this shit out. Look at this light up. Dink. Dink. He's so long, dude.

He's so long. Like I said, you get one shot and it's in front of millions of people for a lot of money. I remember when Hopkins beat Kelly Pavlik. And after the fight, he grabbed him and they said, what did you say? He goes, what he said in his ear is he goes, don't let this ruin you. Like, in other words, I outclassed you completely and you were a hitman and a killer. And he goes, don't let this ruin you were a hitman and a killer and he goes don't let this ruin you

Kelly Pavlik had a problem with alcohol that was his biggest deal yeah apparently it happened after the Hopkins fight apparently you know what's weird

he's always had a problem with alcohol he's still a killer he's still a hitman he's still a killer it's going to be tough to be a champion and have an alcohol issue

yeah you can't yeah but at 26 he was still rocking guys. What do you guys got like Bernard Hopkins who's going to bed at 7 p.m.? You know what I'm saying? Waking up at 6, running and shit. I'm just saying that Kelly Pavlik was still a killer.

Oh, he was a beast. No doubt about it. But he's not in the same area as Bernard Hopkins. Yeah. So nuts. But meanwhile, you know, you do boxing math. The same as you try to do MMA math. Jermaine Taylor beat Hopkins twice.

Yep. And Kelly Pavlik knocked out Jermaine Taylor. It's weird. Yeah, it is weird. It's matchups. It's boxing math. And it's also, I think Kelly Pavlik caught Jermaine Taylor after Jermaine Taylor had his bell rung enough.

Yes. There's a number where you've just, you hit the wall and there's no coming back. And when Pavlik stopped him, it was one of those, ooh, this might be the end. It was one of those where you see the end of a fighter's career sometimes in one stoppage. You know, not always right. Like Pacquiao came back after the Marquez knockout. A lot of people predicted he would never. A lot of people said, this is it.

This is the end. But he's got a really fucking smart trainer in Freddie Roach who said, take a year off. Take a whole year off. Take a year off. So he wasn't even boxing. A contact. He did no contact for a long time. The other thing is Freddie and George started to be the same way towards the end of his

career. They only spar in camp. And Freddie only has his guys spar the last four weeks before a fight. Smart. Is that true? Super smart. I don't understand the logic because sparring seems like it's so important. You're doing mitt work.

You're doing mitt work. You're doing mitt work. You're doing everything but get hit in the head. And you can actually get better in fighting because it feels like when somebody's hitting you back. Well, when you're at that level, it's the same with the NFL. When you're at that level, why take brain trauma? In the NFL, most of them don't hit during the season. They only hit on Sundays. Listen, if you can't fucking make a tackle on Monday, you're sure as shit not going to make

it on Sunday when it counts. Yeah, what Freddie Roach does with his fighters, if you watch any of those HBO 24-7s... I love them. They can sell me on anything. Yeah, they're great. He does a lot of positions. He'll throw that, that, and then step, hook, and they'll go over this one particular combination

that they feel is going to apply to their opponent over and over and over again, and they develop it so that it becomes sort of a secondary reflex. They'll do a lot of specific stuff for each individual fighter. The 24-7 has kind of it was at an A+. I'd give it an A- now, B+.

Because all access on Showtime, Floyd Mayweather took his business there. If you watched last night, episode 3 with Floyd Mayweather, Miss Jackson isn't in the picture last night, episode three, with Floyd Mayweather, Miss Jackson isn't in the picture anymore. And you know why? He released it today. So Miss Jackson was his main chick, right, forever.

She was on all the countdowns, whatever, this pretty girl, take him shopping, show her in Prada, spend all this money, whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop. And then she's not on there anymore. He's like, we just had our differences. She's not around anymore. So Twitter was blown up like, yo, what's wrong with Miss Jackson? I guess she was talking shit about Floyd. So Floyd is like, what?

This is what happened. She was pregnant with twins and decided on an abortion without my consent. I want to have these babies. She had an abortion without my consent. That's why we're not fucking together. And then she, she yeah get ready for this then she on instagram miss jackson posts a picture talking shit to floyd with her new man nelly right i'm all into this shit by the way i'm like tmz in the fight world you love it so then

she posts picture with nelly then floyd's like what he posts a picture yeah miss jackson looks great before i paid for all these fucking uh plastic surgeries shows the picture of her just busted just straight up busted like in the morning just one eye open just a real warlock state in the morning posted that picture and then he took it down though he took it down when you're having an instagram fight that's kind of that's pretty low it's not necessary it's not good it's not supposed to let him fight, that's pretty low. It's not necessary. It's not good. It's not necessary, dude. It's not necessary to let him go.

People love it, though. But that's the fuck that he put that out there that she had an abortion with his twins inside He can't let anything go. Well, you know what? I think he was getting so much backlash. Like, what the fuck? Oh, you're too good, blah, blah, blah. So he's like, what?

Or I think she said something in an interview. So he's like, oh, really? Check this out. Bam. In your face. That fight he had with his dad. His dad comes over they start talking

out of nowhere they're both trying to go at it like yeah that's rough that's rough chicken heads chicken heads

I get ya Floyd Mayweather don't fuck with him he's mastered chicken head he has a black belt in chicken heads I'm a blue belt I'm a blue belt

I think it's more than a chicken head don't you think that's a crazy situation no what chicken head that's a chickenhead. That's being together a long time.

That's a crazy jealousy. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Because they were together, and she was allowed to have all these side pieces. That's how you become Miss Jackson. That's how you become Miss Floyd Mayweather. She accepted that lifestyle, and then she wanted to do her own modeling thing and all this stuff. So he suspended her from the Countdown show because before she wasn't on there. And they asked why. He goes, you know what? She just had to to prove her worth she was getting a little too big for her britches so i had to suspend her from the countdown show that'd be a chicken

head he has a black belt in chicken heads boys you need to step your game up you're suspended it's just so fucked when you involve babies and stuff into that equation try to figure out like where where that how that factored in, you know? Yeah. Well, at what point are you like, listen,

I'm the king of chicken heads, bitch. You're suspended from the countdown shows. Who has that talk? Hey, listen, all access to be here. I'm going to need you to get out.

Why? You're acting like chicken head. Get the hell out of here. Well, that's hilarious. Managing your employees. Chicken. I guess, man. Chicken eggs. Right?

I guess, man. How about this flying noodle? Shop, you got a pair of – I just want to bring the attention of the listeners that you're wearing a pair of very tight camouflage shorts. I really appreciate that. High tops with no socks. Yeah, you're very happy with your legs and those camo shorts though. Let's talk about that. I'm at those quads, son.

That's a low slung. That's a low slung tank top yeah well my dick's hanging out the front it's whatever with a necklace yeah it is it is sad when you see those fucking relationships those crazy relationships especially when they're aired in front of 20 million people oh it's so dark like what are you doing to each other man man? The camera's rolling. He starts talking about abortions. They say that's Floyd's biggest problem is women. Yeah, it's every famous athlete's problem. But there are famous people.

Some famous people, you start to see what they're really about. As the fame starts to wane, like Bruce Jenner deciding that he's going to go transgender. Is that for sure now? Is he really trying to do that? No. No, he's not, Brian. You're just making that up and you're going to get in trouble.

What do you mean I'm getting in trouble? I thought he was feminizing his looks. No, that is a rumor. I did hear that. Have you seen the pictures? It's just rumors, man. It's just rumors. Have you done research on this?

A little bit. You're talking about a man's body and his aspirations towards being another woman. There's no statements. There's nothing you're going to find online that says Bruce Ben-Jenner says... Ready? I'm going to say this. He's the king of Malibu. I'm going to say this right now. Listen up.

I know somebody very well. Very well. I got to be careful, but I know somebody very well. Please be careful. Who is very close to that family. Okay. And.

Should you be saying this? For sure. I think it's okay. Okay. I think it's okay. I'm being general. Okay. And they told me and I said the same thing you said.

I went, that, are you crazy? Take a look, please. Just take a look. I went. That could just be him in the middle of a conversation, and he makes a fucking weird face. And then someone captured it and then put it up and made it like it was a big man. If that's not a wig, I'm liking his life. Hold on, please. Hold on, please.

Hold, hold. So I went, interesting. Why are you talking about this guy? Why are you even focusing on his sexuality? I'm just, why are you getting all politically correct? Because you don't know the guy. I find it very interesting. But you don't know him.

So, I just think it's interesting and surprising that Bruce Jenner may be feminizing his looks. So what were the facts they told you? What were the TMZ facts? That he has decided he is going to go transgender. Come on. Yeah. I don't believe it either. And I said it, and then subsequently I've read it.

Well, it might be the... The Ustream's down. Do you know that? It keeps cutting off. I keep putting it back on. Jamie, can you please look that up a little bit? No, no, no. We're not looking that up.

Jesus fucking Christ. Why do you suddenly get sensitive about one thing? Because you don't know the guy. You don't know him. You don't know his scenario. You have never talked to him about it. I'm not making fun of him. I'm making an observation that I find surprising.

He looks odd, but you do not know whether or not it's true that he wants to be a transgender. His skin is very tight. He looks odd. He might very well. I find it peculiar that you would spend any time whatsoever contemplating, storing the data, circumventing your friend's name so that we could get this out while being as vague as possible. I'm very vague.

Maybe he is. It would explain how he's able to hang out with those squawking hens all day. And he's the only one with talent. Talk about chicken heads. Right. He's the only one with talent. We did something. Out of all those bitches in that house, he just needs to look around and be like, uh, excuse me.

He accomplished some amazing stuff. Are we all aware the only reason all you bitches are here is because I have talent? I mean, can we acknowledge that? Well, that's not true. The reason why they're there is because she did porn and she was friends with Paris Hilton. And her mom was the architect of a lot of- Yeah, yeah. And her mom was married to Robert Kardashian, who's a famous lawyer.

A lot of money. There's a lot involved there. O.J. All chicken had excuses, though. But he was already, like, long past his fame. Yes. When he came back with this. That's true.

No one was hanging out, you know, talking about how great Bruce Jenner was. It just never came out. Well, he wanted to get into movies after the Olympics, so he got a nose job. He did? Yes, he got a nose job. His nose is very, very different. It used to be very different. And it didn't work out.

It didn't work out. And then, I don't know. You going to keep trying? Yeah, I'm restarting it. It's instant anyway. I'm still recording audio. I mean, I think what the Kardashians have done, I think the mom is a genius, marketing genius.

When you take those girls and run with it like this, and obviously Ryan Seacrest got behind them and then bam. Now every girl wants to be them. That's not good. It's not every girl. It's only dummies. It's only dummies, and they're young, and they don't know any better because it looks glamorous, and she's got all the nice stuff that everybody wants, and it's hard to get. But it doesn't mean that it's... Well, it's like...

It's kind of like the porn star thing where it's not tied to accomplishment. It's the wrong kind of attention. You can make that argument. Well, at least a porn star could just show awesome dick-sucking technique where you just want to jerk off to it. At least she has a talent.

Yeah. I mean, it's a performance. Also, Akira was like, let's be honest. It's not really a talent. She goes, it's not really a talent she goes it's not really a skill set it's not a skill you're kind of born fucking she goes i was always fucking and she was always very sexual and now she does it on on camera you know yeah but some girls are bad at it so it is a talent well it's a talent or is it a skill like if i if i played golf every day

i'd be pretty damn good. If I was a girl jacking guys off, sucking dick, I'd get pretty good. Okay, let's Google what's the difference between talent and skill? Because I'm not entirely sure. Well, talent you're born with. Skill you can work on. Skill is something that you work at getting better at. No, I'm not

buying that because some people have no talent in the beginning and then they work at it and then people go wow and develop skills and talent yeah but you know sometimes you see somebody who's who's gets in the ring they're a boxer and you go you got talent you could actually be good whereas you see somebody who doesn't have talent and you go you're gonna have to go you're gonna have to work really hard and develop skill to make up for your talent here's how it's described online talent is usually an innate ability to do something while skill is a learned ability to do something.

That's weird. Talent is the natural aspect that needs a little nudge to realize, while skill requires investment of a lot of time. Yeah. Talent, and then the really scary thing is when talented people develop skills. Yes. That's when you get a John Jones. Or Mike Tyson. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, that's the difference. Or one of these porn stars you were talking about. Or a girl who just can take tongue to the ball. Just, and you see, like, how is she even able to do that without throwing up? How is she doing it? A lot of skill involved. A lot of experience.

A lot of skill. A lot of technique. Well, also, Asa Asa is somebody who has such a huge fan base because you believe her face. I was talking to her about that. Her acting, her ability to make you think she's really enjoying it is... Brian thinks this girl's a legit... I'm not. I finished talking to her for an hour, and that's what we were talking about.

She's a freak. Yeah. Yeah, there's people who shouldn't be porn stars. There's people that go, oh, yeah, well, you're good at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're good at it. But she does some hardcore stuff, too. I'm not familiar with her.

It's not light. I wasn't either. She does some crazy shit. I met her at the Corolla podcast. Oh, really? Yeah. The one we were at? Yeah. Really?

Yeah. She had this book, and I read it, and I said, come on. You read her whole book? Yeah, it was really easy. It's funny, actually. It's short. Yeah? But she's so honest. Oh, my God, is she honest about it? Did you read it naked? I did read it and I said, come on. You read her whole book? Yeah, it was really easy. It's funny, actually. It's like short. Yeah? But she's so honest.

Oh my God, is she honest about it? Did you read it naked? I did read it naked in horse stance. It's a bestseller book? Well, it just came out. I think it just came out. I don't know. You know what they say now?

Burt Kreischer was saying that the book selling business is so fucked and so bad that unless there's pre-orders, like the amount of books that they put out, unless there's a ton of pre-orders, they barely wind up putting them on shelves or bringing them to bookstores and things along those lines. Why? Because people are getting them from Kindle and all that? Yeah. They're getting them from that and they're just not buying that many books, man. Nobody reads. People are just not buying that many fucking books. Nobody reads.

That's not a good sign. i'm gonna let everybody know that you stream crashed you're having a real bad problem with this computer right now bandwidth is all left but audio is still going good so okay i'm just letting everybody use stream has shit the bed we'll be back soon we'll be back soon if possible we'll be back soon so uh do you guys uh do you guys plan on doing anything with the fighter and the kid where you take it to like a network or take it to somewhere else well we just got the numbers back and they're good right they're good so it's time to start making some moves yeah you gotta do something where you can swear i'm just gonna tell you right now every time we get together

and we do a podcast, I'm going to tell you, you got to stop doing this nonsense where they tell you what you can and can't say. You got to stop. You said it. You go, you go,

you're a dirty comedian and you're a cage fighter. Yeah. So you can't censor that. What kind of nonsense is this? This is ridiculous. We agree. There's no argument there.

Dirty comedian, a fucking cage fighter and telling me what to fucking put on the air. You know what? The last podcast we did- Don't talk about broken dicks. Yesterday.

Yeah, no broken dick stories on the final weekend. No broken dick stories. No broken- How about my friend texts me and goes, you son of a bitch. After you told the story? Yeah, I go, what, bro? No one knows it's you. Everyone knew it was him.

All our friends and family knew it was him. It's one of the greatest broken dick stories of all time. Damn right. Everybody knows somebody who knows somebody who broke their dick. It's one of those things. It's one of those things you don't want to be that guy, though. No. It's like you're living in Scotland.

You know somebody who knows somebody who's seen The Loch Ness Monster. Yeah. There's not a bad broken dick story out there, by the way. There's not. Every broken dick story makes you go, oh, no. What? No. It's usually an aggressive girl who's on top, which is really crazy.

The thing is, you would think the guy with that straight elephant dick would have, obviously, it's long. You think it's going to break in the middle like a twig. It's not good. A short stubby dick would be way harder to break in the middle. It's safer. Exactly. It's safer if you're going to be promiscuous with a short stubby dick.

If you have a long piece of metal, mean i would say my friends working with like a bending exactly if you have something if you're going to war you want a short stubby you try bending a lighter sized piece of metal it's hard you know it's very hard but my friend's not working with like a monster ding dong here you know what i'm saying doesn't have to be monster all it has to do is just hit that taint at the right angle. Oof. And just bang. Like a fucking Ferrari that hits one of those big jersey barriers.

Bang. Big jersey barriers. Bends the frame. Ah. Ah. Fucking blood's pooling up in your ball sack. I can't believe neither of you guys ever broke your dick. Not even close.

My dick is bulletproof, by the way. It's not going to break. No, I've not. I've not. I was always careful about that stuff. I would always hold the hips. I think everybody has had an instance. Easy, calm down.

I don't like girls that bite. I've dated girls that bite your face, your lips, and I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey. That really hurts and makes me angry. Not attractive. Bro, I had a girlfriend when I first started fighting. For whatever reason, she started hitting me. Oh, my God. Not like abusive, but like weird.

I'd say something like, oh, that's stupid. She'd be like, babe. Like, why the fuck are you hitting me? Where was she hitting you? What part of your body? She'd hit me in the chest. She'd hit me in the arm. Not in the face.

That gets weird, right? That'd be a chicken head. Hit me in the face. You're a chicken head. Even if she hits you anywhere, isn't she a chicken head if she hits you? Yes. A little bit chicken head-ish. It did last, obviously.

Chicken head characteristics. You should have a chicken head t-shirt, dude. You should sell a lot of chicken heads. Let's do it. You should. Chicken heads. Fight her in the kid. Avoid chicken heads at all costs.

Yeah. Or just have a chicken head. Avoid. Just like a chicken head. Picture of a chicken head at all costs. Yeah. Avoid at all costs. Yeah. And just a chicken head. Don't have a sever a chicken head. Avoid. Just like a chicken head. Picture of a chicken head at all costs. Yeah, avoid at all costs. Yeah, and just a chicken head.

Don't have a severed chicken head, though. No, that's too intense. I don't want that either. Just have it sort of like it fades off. Just draw the chicken head and that's it. You don't have anything else. Just the head. The bottom is like a ghost.

No, no, no. You could do a chicken head and then just this banging-ass body in a bikini. That's actually a good chickenini. That's actually good. Chicken head. That's good. Chicken head. That's the right. Thefighterandthekidshop.com.

There it is. That's the answer. Oh, we'll have those for sale. Chicken heads at all costs. Yeah, that's a great idea. Boy, that might be the most sexist shirt that's ever been sold online. The most wanted sexist. The sexist.

You know how many women are going to be angry at that? Well, not all women. It's just certain women. It doesn't matter. Women will do something that men won't do, whereas they'll gang up and go after a guy who's shitting on any type of woman. True. Whereas men, if there's a group of women that are making fun of a man,

like a type of man, we don't give a fuck. Guys can actually stay really quiet. They're like, oh, well, sorry about that. We won't attack. Perfect example is when Sharon Osbourne, she has that show, The Talk. And they were talking about a guy who got his dick cut off. And the girl threw the dick in the garbage disposal. And they were laughing about it. She was laughing about his willy spinning around in the garbage disposal.

That's not funny to me. That's not cool. Imagine if there was a show where a guy was laughing because he heard a story about a woman getting her vagina cut off and the guy throwing it in a garbage disposal. That would not be funny. The show would be canceled. It would be a fucking riot. If Dr. Phil did that, the show would be canceled.

Yeah, I don't... That guy would be a pariah forever. Meanwhile, she's suffered no repercussions for it. That is weird. It's a different thing. Well, it's not our dick. It's not our dick. We don't care.

But if it's a woman, you know, and I get it because it's more likely that a man is going to assault a woman than a woman's going to assault a man. But you can't laugh when a woman assaults a man and expect people to be just peace, love, and nirvana throughout the sexes and the genders. Well, especially your dick. That's some man-hating shit. Well, there's no sewing it back on. Come on, man. You're screwed. In an insinating shit. Well, there's no sewing it back on.

Come on, man. You're screwed. In an insincerator? No, that's dark. It's dark. It's dark. Damn, that's a nasty fight. What happened? Was the guy sleeping?

I don't know. She drugged him. She drugged him. Cut his dick off? She put him to sleep, and she cut his dick off, then she threw it in a garbage disposal. God, she might beat Clippers chicken head on this.

Was he cheating on her or something? I don't know. I think he was leaving her. I don't know. I don't know what the story was. Oh, my God. That makes me sick. But that show, whatever it was, you see Sharon Osbourne laughing about his dick spinning

around in a circle. I could just see his willy spinning around in a circle. Well, Sharon Osbourne was in Vegas. I was looking for some shoes, and the guy goes, can I see some ID? I was right there. And she goes, go fuck yourself. And the guy she was with, she out the guy was he goes what happened and she goes he asked me for id i didn't know i was i told him to go fuck himself i heard that with my own i don't gossip and i and i when i saw that i went that's an asshole move that's a shitty move that's shitty

that's not a good that's not cool that's a big time that was rude relax you're not that famous that's a terrible thing to do. I don't think anyone in this world is famous enough to do that. That's not cool, man. And what is she famous for exactly? I don't know. I didn't even know it was her at first. Her reality show is legit on MTV.

I watch every episode. She was married to Ozzy Osbourne. Who was totally out of it. Yeah. I mean, literally dragged up the whole time. Right? Shaking all over the place. Shitting his pants. Meanwhile, she's on the ball. All. Right? Shaking all over the place. Shitting his pants.

Meanwhile, she's on the ball. She's totally on the ball. She's on the ball and he's off the ball. True. Maybe she was having a bad day. She has those extra hungry eyes. Super thirsty for dick. That's what it looked like.

That's what I think. Is that what you got out of it? That's what I got out of it. Holy shit. I'm going to take your word for it. She was an agent or something. I don't know what she did. I have no idea.

She's doing well, though. Well, she made a lot of money with Ozzy, for sure. I just think that's a bummer when people treat other people like that. Yeah, it is a bummer. Come on, man. That bummed me out. Yep. I even said to the guy, did she do what I thought?

And the guy who worked at the store was like, yeah. At what point do you get like that, though? When things go wrong. I mean, you guys are pretty famous, Joe. She might have been having a bad day. She was having a big time someone ever? I don't know. No. Have you ever pulled the famous card never never joe's never like that i'm not that guy i i think that most fame is completely illegitimate and just random and lucky i'm i'm much more impressed with uh talented people that people don't know than i usually am with talented

people that are really famous you know i think talent is what impresses me you know and if someone happens to be famous and talented that's more like wow that's interesting let's see how this guy manages it but i don't look at him like they're better anyway and anybody thinks that just because you're famous you're a better person or someone should know you people ask me my name all the time when i know they know my name yeah and i always assume that it's either because they're not sure. Maybe they don't know MMA that well and they think I'm Dana White. I've had people call me Dana White because they know there's some sort of a weird connection with me in the UFC.

They barely peripherally watch it and they'll make that mistake. Well, now you're wearing a suit too. I also think that sometimes you've got to be careful. I don't know what happened with Sharon Osbourne. Maybe she was having a terrible day or something like that. No, don't make an excuse for it. Don't make an excuse. I'm just saying people are watching everything you do.

They watch everything you do. And some days you can just do something you regret. You know, I fucked up. Right. It could have been that the guy was being a dick too. It could have been the guy was doing a power move. Who knows? And she knew what the fuck was going on.

Exactly. I had this lady totally pull a power move on me once. She was one of the security people at uh an arena and uh i was running in and i had my uh my ufc tag on and she like stopped me and wanted to see id as well as in like all these other things that and everybody around her was working with her starts laughing you know like bitch you know who that is like the guy who's working with her goes you know who that is like let the guy who was working with her goes, you know who that is? Like, let him through. And she's like, I need to see this. Oh, relax.

But it was weird. It was like she just decided. And she was just like real aggressive black chick. It's her moment in the sun. Sometimes I'm not famous, right? I'm not that famous at all. But sometimes can work against you. Like I went to – you guys can clown me all you want.

And I told Brian this. I went to go buy a Prius on Saturday. Why did you do that? Because I drive 600 miles. I average 600 miles a week in training camp. So I bought a Prius just for the 50 miles a gallon. I still have my M6. Don't get it twisted.

I still have the M6. And drives that Prius like an M6. Yeah, I do. I drive the shit out of that thing. The wheels are going to fall off any second. However, that Prius, right? 50 miles a gallon. So when I go to the dealer, I'm taking pictures with the dealers,

stuff like that. Well, they think because you're on TV, you're this instant mega millionaire, right? And I brought my coach with me. I told him, I was like, either because they know who I am, they're going to hook me up or they're going to be like,

no, this guy's balling. Just fucking rob him. Rob him. Yeah. So when they come up, I'm like, oh, cool, man. Let's sit down. I obviously want a fucking Prius. So when they come up, I'm like, oh, cool, man. Let's sit down. I obviously want a fucking Prius.

So we're sitting there. They come back with some ridiculous number. It totally backfired, man. But eventually, you know, Hustle got them down. But in general, it backfires, I feel like. Because the people think, oh, this guy doesn't care. He has all this money. He doesn't care.

Whatever number we bring him, he's going to pay for it. Wow. Yeah, that definitely can happen. They can definitely target you. They feel like you're a score. But that's just someone who's an idiot who doesn't understand personal relations. You don't think the guy knows that you're doing that. I had a guy try to sell me a car for $10,000 more than it was advertised on the internet.

Really? Yeah. I went to a dealer and I was asking him about a car a while back. And I go, like, what are you guys selling this for? I asked when I knew the answer. And Homeboy hit me with a $10,000 over the figure online. And I go, you sure? And he goes, yeah.

And I go, well, how come it says different online? And then he goes ghost pale because he was a fucking asshole. He was a guy was hoping that i didn't pay attention and he could just knock another ten thousand dollars hey i got it for ten thousand over the price pull it off the internet quick yeah you know that that type of thing it's also a short-term face too that's what i took it as to me it was like dude come on i'm not an idiot man you're i mean come on and you know i'm gonna see you for every mistake too you know an honest mistake for 100 especially You know an honest mistake. 100%.

Especially when you confront someone on the face. It's the famous McDonald's philosophy where you walk into the room and went into their store and you're considered worth $54,000. What does that mean? The average person who is a McDonald's customer, I don't know if this is true anymore, would spend over a lifetime about $54,000. So when you walk in, you are not a meal. So is that like in their book? Yeah. So you're not a meal.

What you are is you're worth not that hamburger. You are worth $54,000 over a lifetime. And it's called long-term thinking, right? So a lot of companies will talk about that. Like they'll assess what the repeat customer is worth over a lifetime. And it's a big number. And that's the way to run a business. And when you start thinking short-term greedy,

and you go, I can get this guy for $1,000 extra, you're being stupid. That is a good idea, but the best idea is to take it one step further than that. Just fucking be nice to people while you're doing business. Everyone. You don't have to think of people like they're a $54,000 bill. You don't have to think of it like that.

Just be nice to people, and try to put out a good sort of vibe in your places. It's called doing the right thing now. And fire people that act like dicks. The manager's a dick. Get rid of them. Tell everybody that works there, listen, I'm looking to hire nice, friendly people. I want an environment that's positive

for everybody to work in, where everybody's having a good time. It's not good enough to just be good at your job. You have to also be a nice person. If you're not a nice person, I'm really not interested in working with you are you a nice person and if they're like i'm gonna go to wendy's and they just fucking mumble and leave you know what you know what though some people act out of fear and if you explain to them the philosophy behind why to be ethical in that sense sometimes it can help them because it's not just ethical it's friendly it's being nice you know being nice should be mandatory yes that's i. It's being nice. Being nice should be- Mandatory. Yes.

I mean, it's pretty common sense. Don't be an asshole. Well, it's not, though. It's not, though. No, I'm saying it should be. Well, everybody's in competition with everybody else. And it's like there's certain people that at a certain point in time, it's like when we're talking about the guy in the gym that's mad dogging you because you dated a girl,

he's a bitch. So when you run into certain guys that are weak in character they're insecure and broke it's their own insecurities I find a lot of that

weird stuff in acting stuff too like because they're not real people yeah where people will get really really bummed out

because somebody else got successful and they get all worried or mean about it and you're like why are you focusing on that why the fuck

are you focusing on somebody else's because their career is not taken off usually yeah but they focus on your own thing why are you focusing on somebody else's? Because their career is not taken off usually. Yeah, but they focus on your own thing. Why are you focusing on somebody else's who did well? They don't know how to think. And they've got a pattern.

They're stuck in a bad pattern. I had a girl, speaking of just not being nice, I had a girl who people warned me about her. Like, listen, man, she's not that cool. She's kind of a bitch. I was like, I don't see it. Super friendly to me. We go to this Thai restaurant.

Straight, you know traditional thai restaurant the lady taking an order didn't speak very good english and uh my date while she's trying to order this stuff the lady was like uh say it again right like in whatever broken english and this my date starts laughing at her making fun of her i was like what no no never saw her again literally i finished that meal she's like so we go to the movie i was like no what? Never saw her again. Literally, I finished that meal. She's like, so we go to the movie. I was like, no, I don't feel good. It just bounced. Never saw her again. What's that girl who wrote that book who said, look, make sure you

advise to women, pay attention to how the man you're with treats the waiter because that's how he's going to treat you. Girls too. People treat people badly when they don't have to, when it's an opportunity to be nice to people. That's right.

People tip badly. If I see someone tipping badly, I lose massive respect for them, especially someone with money. Yes. When I see a guy with money who's doing well for himself, who is really cheap with the tip or takes money back, puts money down, thinks about it, and then takes some back, oh, it's dark. That's dark. Dark dark. That's dark.

Dark shit. It's dark because it's like everything you don't want to see in a person. Selfish, short-minded shithead. Like you're doing well. You don't have a money concern right now. You don't have a money concern. You have an opportunity to be nice to somebody. Yes, this person's working their ass off making $8 an hour.

He'll come up. I've had friends that don't tip. They say Michael Jordan doesn't tip. What? They say he's the worst tipper in the world. I heard that. The fuck? Is that true?

You're Michael Jordan, man. You make $100 million off your shoes. Yeah, there's a lot of guys that don't believe. And I love that guy. They don't believe they should have to. I don't know if I told this story on the podcast. My mother saved my dad from losing a lot of money because she watched the dude. They were playing golf.

Yeah. And I cheated golf, but this guy kicked the ball out looking around to make sure nobody saw it. She goes, that guy's a crook. My father's like, what? Kicked the ball out. My father's like, I don't know. My mother's, he kicked the ball out and did it like secretly.

If you do it like, you know. Like joking around like that. Well, I'll cheat. And if you catch me, I cheat. If you play a board game or any golf game, I cheat. I really cheat and really try to beat you and do it secretly. But if you catch me... Why?

I'm just kidding. I don't care. But I'm going to cheat at any game you play. If it's a board game, I don't give a shit. You'll cheat for a goof. Yes. But if you're doing it to really win and you're going to be secretive about it, something's going on. That guy went to jail, by the way.

Did he? Yes. Turned out to be secretive about it, something's going on. That's a little weird. That guy went to jail, by the way. Did he? Yes. Turned out to be a big crook. Ooh. Yep. Ooh. Well. Famous white-collar criminal.

Really? Bernie Madoff? Nope. Shit. Nope. Don't want to know. Yeah. Well, Bernie Madoff, my father's friend, they came to my father's friend, I think his name

is Paul DeRosa, and he made a fortune. And they said, this guy can get you 20% of your money. First thing, Paul DeRosa, who made his money the right way and the hard way, goes, really? 20%? Call the police. That's what he said. He goes, no, no, no. He's got this thing.

He goes, really? Call the police. Never seen it in my life. I've been in this business my whole life. You tell me he makes 20% on his money like that? Call the cops. Said that way before he got caught. Way before he got caught.

A lot of smart people lost a lot of money. Steven Spielberg was one of them. Yeah, a whole bunch of people. That guy ripped off a lot of rich people. That was a huge fucking mistake. And charities. Ripped off a lot of charities. Oh, yeah.

He'll catch up with you, man. Well, he will. He's going to catch up with you. That is the greatest scam. I mean, he kept it going for 30, that's maybe the, that is the greatest scam. I mean that he kept it going for 30 years. Have you paid attention to how many bankers have off themselves in 2014? No. Ooh,

it's in double digits. Really? Yeah. It's some weird number of bankers here. Well, when your number, when your life is a number, when your life is only a number and you did it the wrong way and the jig is up,

you know, let's see. Bankers that have killed themselves in 2014. It's some stupid number, man. There's like all these things. Going way back to 2010, 2012, there's articles. These motherfuckers are jumping off buildings. I mean, it's dark.

That's not how I go. I don't want to jump off a building. You know what it is, man? Hell no. It's a bunch of people that are just super depressed about what they're doing with their life. Because of how they define themselves. Speaking of dudes jumping off bridges and buildings, did you see Homeboy on the 105 or the 110 trying to commit suicide?

When was this? Two weeks ago. Guess who's front row for it? This guy coming home from training. You saw the guy kill himself? First of all, I was sitting there for five hours. In traffic. Because, yeah, homeboy wanted to jump off, so the cops sped in front of me, blocked off everyone.

I'm sitting there like, whatever, in an accident. I'm waiting there. People are getting out of their cars after an hour walking. This one dude's walking back, and I go, hey, man, how bad is it up there? He goes, no, man, look up. Look at the bridge. I go, what? He goes, see that guy hanging off?

I go, oh, shit. He goes, yeah, he's trying to jump into traffic, commit suicide. So I literally sat there like this. I'm not making this up. The crowd started to chant, jump, jump, jump after four hours i saw i looked over this old lady and akia's going just do it already there is a time and after a while you guys me too i was like bro you're like you know i really have to go somewhere great movie that would be a great movie uh an hour and a half movie of you or anybody who's in traffic and you see this mob mentality

and you splice back and forth between this guy and these people telling him to jump. And the people that get in. What is this? This is the guy. People are taking selfies. Yes, I was in that, man. So did the guy actually jump? I think they talked him down.

Oh, I don't know. He might have jumped. He might have jumped. But what he did is the other side of traffic. The other side of traffic was free flowing. So he walked over to there to stop that traffic too. Yeah. Literally, I was there for five hours, man.

The same thing, I was in Boston and actually on my way to John Howard's gym. And I, same thing, traffic. And people are taking selfies with the dude before he's about to jump off. These dudes, this guy was up there and this guy was talking to him. I called my brother and FaceTimed him though. I wonder who the guy is who talks to him. Cause they have, they have special guys that go and talk to him. I'm not gonna lie.

I feel like I could talk him out of it. I feel it. Just let me up there, bro. Let me see you come and he would go, this fucking guy exists. I'm just jumping. My,

my, in New York city, my mother, my mother has an apartment in New York city. The woman across the hall, there's a knock on the door. I see these big Irish dudes with their firemen, these huge mustaches, just huge guys. And the woman asks, she goes, hello. And the guy goes, how are you doing?

And she goes, I'm fine. And he goes, were you sitting out on your air conditioner? And she goes, um, yeah. And he said, do you think that's a little unusual? And she goes, no. And he goes, um, yeah. And he said, do you think that's a little unusual? And she goes, no. And he goes, you don't think sitting on your air conditioner 16 floors up is unusual? And she goes, no. He goes, you don't? She goes, oh. And she just kind of collapsed.

They grabbed her, put her on the stretcher. You're coming with us, honey. She was just right up. She was just sitting on the 16 floors up. I'll tell you what, this guy about to jump off the highway. Hey, bro. Not that tall. You're going to jump off.

Your life's going to get a lot worse. I mean, maybe if you jump face first. Nobody ever does. Nobody ever does. It's just for attention? Yeah. He probably broke up with some girl. Yeah, I can't go on.

Then jumped up there. No, people do jump. But I'm saying nobody ever jumps face first. They cover themselves. Oh. It's natural reaction. No, people do jump, but we're saying nobody ever jumps face first. They cover themselves. Oh. It's your instincts kick in. It's natural reaction. Yeah.

Yeah, your instincts kick in. It's very rare that someone doesn't try to stop their fall. What a horrible way to go. They've done studies on- It's not high enough. No. Sam Sheridan told me that most of the people that jump and survive the Golden Gate, which is very rare, all of them without a doubt say that halfway through they're like

they're like why did i do this this was a bad golden gate is higher yeah they all decide that's a bad idea i think golden gates number why i notice i have no idea golden gate i think is number one number two is that uh creepy hotel in uh uh denver or in colorado that one overlook where the fucking shining was was filmed? Yes. Yep. Well, Golden Gate was averaging 26 a year, and that's why they put those nets down. And there's a documentary called The Bridge. Who's jumping off that damn thing that high?

26 people a year. That's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. And there's a 98% death rate. I think like 2% have survived that actual. And they have to hit the water apparently at a certain angle where you break your you know you break you hit it i think you hit the water 86 miles an hour well if you hated life before yeah and then not fun and then you jump off a bridge and every bone your body's broke and you wake up in the hospital is that what it is every bone your body breaks

when you hit the water yeah i guess it's not just that you the water rushes into your rectum and your eyes and but also you usually break your neck or your because the the what it does to your jaw when you hit and your feet and everything because the surface tension of the water so the surface tension of water when you when you hit it it resists initially that's why if a car falls in the water it goes boom it stops it doesn't it the surface tension actually dents that will dent the car so your your feet break but then you got your chin or anything else that has to break that surface tension as well yeah i have a friend who went cliff diving and he in ohio and he's telling me that he jumped off some favorite famous cliff where everybody jumps and said it was unbelievable

how hard it was when you hit the ground that was only 100 feet oh. Oh, I didn't see it. That was only 100 feet. First of all, I jumped 40 feet, and it was a nightmare. I hated it. I also jumped, I don't know, it was 220 foot drop. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's crazy. It didn't seem, I'm not going to lie, it didn't seem that high. Until you look down.

Are you out of your fucking mind? When you're up there, your guts would turn inside out if you leaned over the edge and thought about it. I'm just talking about homeboys jumping off. I mean, a skyscraper is the way to go, I feel like. Oh, yeah. That's, do you just? the edge and thought about it. I'm just talking about homeboys jumping off. I mean, a skyscraper is the way to go, I feel like. Oh, yeah. I don't want to do anything.

I went parachuting. I literally was so afraid that I wasn't listening to the guy on the radio in my helmet and I was holding the... I was pulling on the guy. I had to para-hike. I ended up landing a mile away from where I was pulling on the glide so I ended up I had to para-hike I ended up landing a mile

a mile away from where I was supposed to land because I wasn't listening to him on how to glide myself to where I should have been I would never do that stuff bungee jumping skydiving going to the top of Sears Tower

cliff diving none of that interest me base jumping you're already doing something that's like you look at the pros and cons though the pros and cons like I was in Costa Rica my friend wanted to jump off this cliff. It was like – it was a rope, not even a bungee cord.

And they go, well, yeah, a lot of guys do it. I'm not doing that. You look at the pros and cons. But courage is funny. A lot of guys do it. It's hilarious. Courage is a funny thing because a lot of bass members would say I could never get into a cage and fight another killer. And some guys, I could never get on stage and do stand-up.

Courage is a compartmentalized thing, man. There's pros and cons though. My brain weighs it. Let's see. Jump out of an airplane? Well, it'd be cool for about 30 seconds. What if it's not cool? Wow, look at that. What is he doing? Climbing on top of a skyscraper in Ukraine. Selfies

to another level, son. So you mean he's not going to base jump? He's just climbing that? Yeah. Oh my god. That's badass. No you mean he's not going to base jump. He's just climbing that. Oh, my God. That's badass. No, it's not. That's retarded. If you're an expert rock climber.

I don't look at that and go, oh, that's gangster. I'm sweating. My fucking hands are sweating right now. Me too. I'm sweating these tight ass car camel pants off. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. There's a guy above him taking that picture.

Jesus fucking Christ. So they're just climbing up that thing I'm sweating dude my hands are wet right now I'm rubbing my hands together my quads are dripping wet

I have a boner is that normal it's totally normal you think if you just fuck that guy in his ass he would back up to your rhythm

just so that you wouldn't knock him off I gotta fuck you dude you're climbing too high I just we're gonna fuck and we're not gonna to do it fast. Dude.

Oh my God. These guys are nuts. Why? My asshole's tingling right now. Yeah, my dick's like this. My balls are like this. My dick is like pulsating and clamping. I remember climbing a tree and I was holding onto the branch.

I wouldn't let go. Look at that guy in the red shirt. Upper rough tan corner. He's crazy. What the fuck is that? Makes you feel sick. What is that? Oh my God.

Look how high he is. What is he doing? He's over trees. What if fuck is that? What is that? Oh my god. Look how high he is. What is he doing? He's over trees. What if the wind blows? Oh my god. What if he slipped? Again, pros and cons. What if a wind gusts? You get a very cool view from high up. Con. How come it doesn't freak you out when you look out the window on a plane? I don't know,

dude. It's not like that. It's weird. It freaks me out a little bit, especially since that plane went missing. When I get on a plane now, I'm like, say this bitch goes missing. There's a chance. Look at this video. Oh, my God. Dude, I'm such a...

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm having a really hard time with this. This is crazy. This is crazy, too, man. I'm not doing that good either. It makes my stomach... What is he doing?

Don't do this. Dude, what are you doing? I feel like I'm going to shit my pants. He's got something on his head like a GoPro. What is he doing? Don't do this. Dude, what are you doing? He's got something on his head. What is he doing? It's a GoPro for sure. Oh my God, how far is he walking? What a rush. I am sweating so hard.

That's ridiculous. Oh my God. This guy's crazy. Holy fucking shit. This is awful. How many of these guys die a year? I'm getting car sick. Oh, my God.

He's doing it again. He's doing it again. This is insane. What's the name of this video? Have you seen Homeboys Who Climb the Mountains, though? Without any leashes or anything? That crazy Ukrainian climbing guy. Oh, my God.

That crazy Ukrainian climbing guy. The guys who climb the mountains are another level. I'm sweating. Sweaty. I was climbing a tree with my friend Eric Wagner in high school. I was only maybe, I don't know, 30 feet up and high enough to really hurt my legs. And I'm holding on to the branch and I won't let go. And he goes, let go of the branch.

I go, I'm not letting go. Because I was scuttling to get to the next, to safer. And so he's holding on and he's not afraid at all. And I'm like this. And he reaches over and squeezes my package. He goes, and I go, Eric,

please stop doing that. And he goes, ah, it's okay. And I go, it was the most uncomfortable thing. And I had to watch him and he was looking me in the eye and he goes, and he's just squeezing my dick and balls.

Like it's one of those horns that clowns. He does it more than three times, then your friend's gay. You're going to have to beat his ass when you get down to the ground. You shit together and then you get down. I literally, I was going to, I'm going to fucking kill you. Whatever happened? Did you let him go? No, he was bigger and stronger.

You got to hit him anyway. I came off hanging from him. You got to hit him anyway. You got to hit him anyway. I came. But here's the, but let me explain. But let me explain. It's like prison.

You got to establish your position. You're the guy. You know how I was like, oh, it doesn't Let me explain. It's like prison. You've got to establish your position. You're the guy. You know how I was like, oh, it doesn't seem that high, the Golden Gate Bridge? On a spring break in college in Missouri, my buddies want to go cliff diving, and I'm afraid of heights if I didn't tell them this. So everyone's like, oh, let's do it. And I'm like, yeah, bro, sounds awesome.

There's chicks around. So we pull up. I'm thinking, I'm like, man, I hope this isn't that high up. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, dear God, I hope it's not that high up because I'm trying to act like a badass. So we pull up on the boat. And I'm like, I don't look that bad. And we get up there.

It's a beast to get up there. We get up there. And there's no turnaround. You can't go back down. You have to jump. Oh, my God. Everyone's like, yeah, see you show up in the water. Everyone jumps. I'm the last one by myself sweating.

Like, I do not want to do this but i have to do it then some guy down below goes this big guy out of shape goes come on you pussy jump already and i hear my friends in the boat go yeah so i'm like shit i have to do this i jump the scariest thing i've ever done it was high as shit i had contacts at the time my head hits the water i kind of like belly flop head hits the water contact goes shooting out i was so scared and mad i literally didn't talk to my friends for the rest of the day literally was like fuck this got in the boat and was just upset man if you're gonna i've never told this story and i haven't told the story because it's a scary one um i've never told the story and I haven't told the story cause it's a scary one. Um, I've never told this story before, but I'm going to tell you, you don't know the story,

Joe. Um, last summer I went to South France and I was with my wife and my buddy and he, the first day we're there, he goes, we're going to go cliff diving. And I said, I don't like that idea.

Okay. It's a group of people. One guy's the best horseback rider in the world, whatever, random stuff. So we get there, we get there and we're up there and it's, it's a group of people one guy's the best horseback rider in the world whatever random stuff so we get there we get there and we're up there and it's it's it's it's the ocean number one number two it's craggy rocks number three it's very high and number four it's cold so i look over and my instincts and i go so if we jump where are we supposed to swim to and the surfer who was from there said over there but i don't like the way the tide is washing up on those rocks so i go that's all i had to hear

not going to do it pros and cons not going to do it the horseback rider jumps his his chubby girl jumps and guess who else jumps my wife mother of my children she just goes she's competitive talk about it she's like she's just a competitive She's competitive. Did you guys talk about it? Nope. She's like, I'm doing it. She's just a competitive chick. She goes, oh, that girl's going to do it? I'm doing it.

So that's the mother of my children. So guess what? I got to go in to make sure she's okay. So I jump in. You were scared shitless. I wasn't scared about jumping. I was mad. I was mad because I don't like the ocean.

I was mad because I didn't have a good instinct about it. i was mad because i don't like the ocean i was mad because i didn't have a good instinct about it i was mad because i don't know that area and the mother your children decides to jump really mad about basically your wife said fuck these kids i'm gonna jump in this ocean well my wife is really competitive and she's not gonna let somebody so what right that's ridiculous now i jump in And I know you and I are the same mind because you're cautious like this too. I jump in and I swim. We swim and now we have to go up on the rocks and the waves are hitting these rocks. So I say to Amanda, I go, we're going to have to ride this wave onto these rocks.

Let me go first so I can turn around and grab you. No big deal. I go and as I go and turn around I get hit with a second wave which just came out of nowhere it it it literally knocks me rolls me on this really sharp coral so my feet my hands everything's all full of blood my wife my wife's legs are all full of blood. She starts to kind of panic. She goes, and like that. And the waves and stuff, because I got the wind knocked out of me.

And I'm telling you right now, I grabbed her and she goes, get away from me. She thought I was going to drown her. So I have to calm her down. Well, she just didn't want to. She thought I was going to bring her down. So I have to calm her down. So it gets so bad because I can't grab her. I try to get her back up on the rocks again, washed off again.

Okay? So now I'm swallowing sea water. She's swallowing sea water. And I'm literally talking to her like this. I go, all right, no big deal. We're going to stay here. Let's relax. Let's just swim further out so we can get used to these waves.

Let's wait until it calms down. It's crisis mode. You're talking. Let him talk. Let him talk. So it's crisis mode. And I realize that I'm panicked and I don't really actually have the strength. I'm worried that I'm going to go – I'm trying to – I got to hold her up because she's strong.

And I think I got to get behind her. But she's literally pushing me away. Now she grabs onto me. And now I'm like, oh, boy, I got to get behind her. But she's literally pushing me away. Now she grabs onto me. And now I'm like, oh boy, I've got to get it together here because she's holding onto me and kind of pulling me under. The dude who's the surfer sees what's going on. He dives in. He grabs her. I literally, I'm holding her.

He comes up and I go, take her, take her. Like really calm. I go, take her. Because she's panicking. He holding her. He comes up and I go, take her, take her. Like really calm. I go, take her. Because she's panicking. He grabs her. He ends up having to put her on top of him and he lets the wave ride him up. He gets his whole back and legs ripped up. And he pulls her on short so she's a bloody mess.

I ride the next wave in. My feet, my hands, my body, I'm all ripped up. I'm all ripped up for the rest of the the vacation never been more angry so bad by the way that the helicopter that the rescue helicopter shows up and i and people are all crowded around like well they saw everything happened and i'm full of blood we're all full of blood the rescue helicopter comes up which is by the way some twenty thousand dollar fine or something. I grab Amanda.

I grab my friends. I go, let's get in the car now. If they catch us and figure out it's us. So we jump in the car and drive off. That was the scariest. What I realized there was that the sea can take you so quickly. You just go to the bottom. They're not finding you.

We'll see you later. And that shit happens all the time because people if you don't know how to ride you know currents and waves if you're not used to it if you're not a good swimmer

if you're out of shape you're not a good swimmer I am a good swimmer you're going to lose your life yeah and I am a good swimmer you know what I thought about you know what's crazy you take a warm hand

to your face I didn't think about me I thought about my kids being without their mom I wasn't going back without their mom I wasn't going to happen and that's way scarier than me

losing my life. I've never had that experience. Imagine if you didn't jump in. Well, that's exactly. Imagine if you didn't jump in. Well, that's what we should have done. It sounds like there was a lot of space between her jumping in and the surfer jumping in. I waved the surfer in.

He didn't know we were in trouble. That's why I jumped in. And that's why I knew I had to jump in. Did you guys get in a big fight after? You know, it was so scary. You were just thankful to be alive. I was thankful she was okay. Woo!

That was a bad situation. I don't even like telling a story because of the feeling it gave me. Like, I didn't feel... Oh, my God. It's not good to feel that vulnerable. The sea is a scary bitch. The ski is a scary bitch yeah the ski is a bitch i don't fuck around i love the ocean my buddy who's something that's not fun

my buddy used to have to take uh he would he would make his money by sailing boats in the winter for rich people up the atlantic which during storm season sailboats and he was only one of the few people willing to do that and i he got caught in a storm for 23 hours where the swells were going over his body. They couldn't. They had to literally fly a guy from Alaska in a special boat because nobody else could do it, could navigate the storm, who tugged him in. And he strapped himself, and he was getting hypothermia, as the water. And he couldn't see the waves. At night, he had to wait to hear them because they

would just come over the boat and the whole boat would submerge and that happened that happened for for him that happened for about 10 hours just kept submerging and they were out there from capsizing you got to steer you towards the wave you got to be an expert and he was so so uh they were stuck out there and you're at the mercy of the sea and And a lot of times, you just get washed up on rocks, and you die. So he had to keep the rocks. He got to keep away from the rocks, and he had to keep the boat. He had to deal with these insane waves at night where you can't see them. Nature's another level.

So the rocks and the water. And the water. You've got to simultaneously worry about both of them. That's right. And you're in a metal boat. For 10 hours. It's a wood boat. It's a wood boat. What? Yeah, it's a wood boat. It's a wood boat.

What? Yeah, it's a wood boat. It's a sailboat. Oh, a sailboat. You can keep that shit. Keep that ocean shit. And I said to him, I said, do you ever, would you have a life vest? He goes, you don't wear a life vest.

What do you mean? He goes, look, if you get knocked over, you're dying. He goes, and chances are life vest is going to keep you cold and alive longer than you want to be. You're not wearing a life vest. They can't come back and find you cold and alive longer than you want to be. You're not wearing a life vest. They can't come back and find you because they can't get you back on the boat. In that kind of weather, you're probably injured anyway. Those guys are hardcore. Keep it.

Keep it. How about that fucking Deadliest Cat show? You ever watch that show? Nuts. Yeah, that's some crazy shit. Well, those guys are up there just catching crabs. Catching crabs. How delicious could crabs be that somebody decided this is what they wanted to do with their time?

If you fall in that water, you got about two minutes before you have hypothermia. Hypothermia, dead. There have to be better ways to make money. I would imagine. They're in the sea in Alaska. I'll shave my body. I think they're getting paid. I'll shave my body.

I'll tan and take steroids and become a gay stripper. You're already there. Thank you. Clay Guida did it just for the adventure. No. Yeah, Clay Gu and become a gay stripper. You're already there. Thank you. You know, Clay Guida did it just for the adventure. No. Yeah, Clay Guida was a goddamn crabber. Oh, I thought you meant he was a stripper. No.

Just for the adventure. He was a crabber? Yeah, he went to fucking Alaska. Recently? No, when he was young. Back in the day, yeah. He's a tough guy. He's a fucking wild man.

Decided he was going to get a boat and just join and become a fucking crab fisher. He's a rugged dude. That's another level. He's a rugged dude yeah you think he's a rugged you think yeah guy decides for an adventure he's gonna join a fucking crab fishing boat in alaska you know who wouldn't do that brendan chobb as tough as he is not a no interest he hates nature i'd rather go work at starbucks no i love i love the ocean i love the ocean man i love surfing i love stuff like that i'm afraid of camping you can keep it you know what i love man i love the ocean man i love surfing i love stuff like that i'm afraid of camping you can keep it you know what i love man i love being by the ocean i love looking at it i think those

neighborhoods more mellow like neighborhoods that are near the ocean yeah the problem is they're also more crowded listen man whatever some of them i did a thing for discovery i go to do this this thing and i'm talking to the great white expert who did the documentary on those great whites that breach the water south africa right and i said i say to him this is literally i'd never forget this i go there but they're they're they're great whites in the santa monica bay and he goes uh yeah dude a lot and i didn't talk like that that's how you talk i know but for the for the story this is he said oh and by the way not only are there great whites. Everybody talks like me in my stories. But Jacques Cousteau once said.

Thank you for saying Jacques. And he goes, I said, yeah, but little ones. He goes, we tagged the 21 footer about 200 feet off the Malibu shore. I was like, where are the fucking signs? 21 footer. Yeah, I want to know if there's a Chevy with fins out there. Well, that's why I only surf when there's a bunch of people. So it has options.

I'm not even trying to be funny, but I won't surf like with just me and another buddy. I'll wait. Like there's a bunch of people around. I'm like, all right. Do you know anybody who's ever been bitten while surfing or attacked while surfing or bumped while surfing? Yeah. It doesn't always happen, but you got to think that what you're doing when you're surfing

is you're mimicking what a seal looks like, which is their main food source. And on top of it, you're doing it like a fishing lure, where you go all the way to the shore and then right back in. But you know what he told me? But this is the thing. Why are body suits black? Why can't we

make them so we don't look like fucking seals? Well, they're colorblind, I think. So everything looks okay but all right so make make them you know so if it's if it's black a seal looks black well he said he said like a zebra he said that when you're on a wooden board and you're wearing rubber for them um evolutionarily it doesn't make any sense that you're not their food source so when they do bite you it's almost always an accident however i told you the david blaine story about oh uh he decided part of his magic show and i don't think he aired it but he showed it to me on his iphone

uh he went a day off of shore um from i guess los angeles i think it was near guadalupe island or something like that uh he put a weight belt on held his breath he can hold his breath for longer than anybody in the world. Held his breath in a tuxedo. Real quick, I don't believe this story. I've heard it before. Well, he's got a video on it. He's a musician. No, this is real video.

He's a musician. I mean, he's a magician. This is real video. And he ate a banana underwater while these 24-foot great whites just circled him. Why wouldn't he put that on TV? For whatever reason, he was going to save it, then he decided it didn't fit with the special.

Because it's animation. Is he the man with your friend that gets 100% of fights right? Hey, man! I feel like you don't believe my David Blaine story. Well, it just seems a little sketchy. Dude, he did magic for you. How freaky was that? David Blaine was legit.

I went to a party at Callan's house, a kid's party. While I was there, I have no idea. I don't have a kid. Showed up. There's a jump castle. David Blaine jumps out this bitch. Hey, Brendan. David Blaine started doing tricks.

Did some crazy shit. Some of the craziest shit I've ever seen. He'll freak you out. You think you know magic? But all I could focus was on his shoes. He's doing all this. But all I could focus was on his shoes. He's doing all this magic. All I could focus on his shoes. They were laced so tight.

I was like, bro, is there some sort of race you're going to do from here? Does not spend money on clothes. I'm telling you, the tightest, literally impossible to get him any tighter. It was all I could stare at. Owens black t-shirts, jeans, black t-shirts, jeans, and New Balance. Washed black jeans, busted black New Balances. Does not wear clothes, does not care about clothes, does not care about money. How come?

He is obsessed with the examples of human suffering. He reads all about all different things like Bobby Sands, the Holocaust. I mean, he's always interested in human endurance. He's fascinated with how human beings can suffer with dignity. The book that really changed his life was Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning. And David's always – he watched his mother – I'm not talking about school. He watched his mother die of cancer and I think it changed him forever. He talks about it.

Him and my brother look very similar. Him and my brother look like brothers. They certainly do. Yeah, you could look like you're in the neighborhood. No Him and my brother look like brothers. They certainly do. Yeah, you could look like you're in the neighborhood. Nah, I don't look like him. Yeah, my brother does that. You look like his brother. Nah.

You could. Oh, yeah. Nah. All right, whatever. Get crazy about it. So where are you fighting Arlovsky again? It's going to be in Vancouver, right? Vancouver.

UFC 174. I always wanted to ask this. So that's about how many weeks right now? Six. Six weeks away. Now, when you gear up for a fight like that, what do you do differently than, say, what you're doing? You're always working out.

You're always in sort of like maintenance mode. Yeah. Right? You're always in constant learning mode, constantly working, keeping your conditioning up. What changes between just training and then boom it's time to train for a fight? Yeah, the intensity for sure.

Tomorrow I'm sparring with this specific training partner to mimic Arlovsky. Usually I'm just going to reign, training with Mark Munoz and Pat Cummings, stuff like that. And then now there's a game plan implemented. With the rounds, I'm sticking to a game plan and like that everything's way more intense my diet's on point

i have people make my food now supplements are on point everything's really really serious what do you do differently with your diet what do you change as far as like what you eat uh when i'm out of camp i usually i just like to eat healthy in general like i juice every morning obviously people have their things against juice, but I juice every morning. But if I'm out with friends, like if I go out with Brian, I'll have a cheese plate. I'll have a beer here and there. But now, I mean, I don't go. I rarely ever eat out.

All my meals are cooked. Everything's paleo diet. I don't do any breads, nothing like that. Right, right. Yeah, you've been doing that for a while, right? Yeah. No gluten. Yeah.

Gluten-free. Big difference? Huge difference. It've been doing that for a while, right? Yeah. No gluten. Yeah. Gluten-free. Big difference? Huge difference. It's funny. That's a touchy thing with people. A lot of people are calling bullshit on that, but there's some real science to people having a problem. There is, man.

And the other thing is friends ask me to go out and do stuff. I won't do it. Like Thursday night, they're like, oh, let's go see a movie. No, I'm cool, man. I'm in. I'm in bed by 10 every night. You kind of have to be, right? You have to be super diligent about that kind of shit.

For me, I have to be. If I do anything less, then I'll question myself when I'm in the octagon. Do you put together your whole schedule as far as what you do during the week? No. I have a coach, Tony Jeffries, who looks over the schedule and puts everything together. I've already sparred twice this week, but it just so happens this badass guy is in town, and he's a very, it's great sparring. He happens to be another heavyweight,

so we're going tomorrow. And that was, I just found that out before I came here. He's like, yo, you're supposed to go wrestle and do jiu-jitsu. Not anymore. You're sparring five rounds with this monster. What about like... Oh, and then track conditioning. Okay, track.

Condition is another level. So like I had strength and condition today where it's kind of like implementing three five-minute rounds like circuit training. And then tomorrow I'll spar five rounds. Then I'll go to the track. And they give me a heart rate monitor. I have to run these 800s. And then as soon as my heart rate gets to 140, I run them again. And it's cool because by June 14th, that week of, I'll run. It's crazy to see how fast I recover.

That's cool to see, man. That's interesting. Do you wear one of those runs around your chest? Yep. Those are the best ones, right? What are those for? Heart rate monitors. Heart rate monitors, yeah.

Those are the best ones, right? The ones on the wrist, they don't quite do it, right? Yeah, they don't do it. I think it's called a Garmin. You wear it around your chest, and then you have the watch, so when I run, I can see it. And my coach is just like, tell me, what's your heart rate at? They record everything. I'll say 178, and then as soon as it gets to 140, you're going.

It's all about recovery. It's all about increasing the amount of time that you could run before you hit a certain level. And then once you hit that certain level, dropping back and cutting the amount of recovery down as much as possible. So if during the first week it takes you a minute and a half to recover, that's what it is. But by the sixth week, it should be like 20 seconds. It's cool to see.

You know, like it gives you a definitive, like you know you're in shape. And what's cool is my coach is so on it that from last camp we looked at when I first started camp for Mitrione when I ran my 800s, 600s, and 400s in, my recovery time compared to now, I'm already a step ahead of the game. Is there a day where you run like 8 miles or something?

See, I like to run long distance. I love running. It's weird. I love running long distance. Gives you high, right? I'll just run for four miles and it's no thing. But they have to cut back on it because it's hard on your joints. But I'll run those 800s for my coach. And I'll run on the beach. The beach.

Yeah, I was going to ask you. I'll do the beach. Beach and dunes. Dunes are great, right? Love the dunes. Yeah. Right off PCH. It's awesome because you don't take the pounding that you take.

Exactly. I see people running on sidewalk and I just go, God damn, do you not have anybody that you talk to? They don't. That seems like a crazy thing. What about biking and stuff? Is that low impact? Sure. Very low impact.

It's low impact, but you have to go such a far distance to get a good workout out of it. Yeah, unless you're doing hills. Nothing really substitutes for running, does it? I mean, you have to incorporate. Swimming's good, too, but that's also tough. You could do a serious workout on a lot of different machines depending on the intensity that you put out.

A spin bike could whoop your ass. Yeah, if you have a good one. If you have a good aerodyne. Aerodynes are beasts. Literally, I think one of the purest forms of showing if someone's athletic is a sprint, their running form. So for me, it's just in my blood.

I know if I'm sprinting, I'm running. It just makes me know that I'm doing the right thing. For other guys, it doesn't make sense. For other heavyweights, they probably shouldn't do it. It's hard on their knees. For me, I have to do it. I don't have any injuries, knock on wood, nothing. I've been running all my life.

That's probably why you don't have the injuries because you've been running all my life. I just... That's probably why you don't have the injuries because you've been running all your life. And the human body has an amazing ability to adapt to whatever you need it to do. Yeah, I think you were talking about that, how you're one of the people who goes, you don't get... People get injured because they put a lot of weight on

in between fights. Then they come back to training. That's when you get injured. Well, it shocks the body. They jump into camp and the body's like, what the hell are we doing? They blow out their knee. Boys, we're out of time. We're three hours in. There it is. Sorry, dudes. when you get injured. It shocks the body. They jump into camp and the body's like, what the hell are we doing? And they blow out their knee. Boys, we're out of time. We're three hours in. Sorry, dudes.

We did it again. That was pretty easy. Talking your guys' ears off. I just fucking flew by. I think we kind of talked about the UFC. We did, for sure. We covered some of it. It was a post-UFC fight. Why do you keep showing this? Flying knee fight.

It was a great fight. Yeah, we talked about pretty much the entire UFC other than a couple of the prelim fights. Well, when are we going to see you guys again? When are we going

to do this again? Anytime you want. Do you want to do that thing with Eric Silva and Matt Brown? Matt Brown, that'd be dope. Let's see if we can do that. I'd love to do it.

And that would be like the most disjaunted podcast ever. So for anybody listening in, you're going to have to watch. This is a companion podcast. You have to be a real real fan of the podcast world. You have to watch it with the fights. Otherwise it's not going to work. And I'm going to say that at the beginning.

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