The Joe Rogan Experience - #500 - Doug Stanhope & Tom Rhodes

Episode Date: May 14, 2014

Doug Stanhope is a stand-up comedian and TV host, also currently hosting his own podcast, The Doug Stanhope Podcast available on Spotify. Tom Rhodes is a stand-up comedian, actor, and TV host. Current...ly he hosts his own podcast called Tom Rhodes Radio.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! Ting, not to be confused with Tang Tang, remember when we were kids, that was like a big thing? What if they partnered up? It would be crazy, Ting Tang You could sip the delicious juice while you use it
Starting point is 00:00:19 No, your cup doubles as a phone Your Tang cup They sell you pimp style Tang cups with rhinestones around them. Remember when we were kids, Tang was the big thing. Yeah, it came from the space program. The big Google. It made it good. Tang was fucking terrible.
Starting point is 00:00:35 It was dog shit, fake orange juice. Maybe they'll sell MREs as a great dinner. That was one of the first commercial. That was one of the first product placement things. The Tang people. That wasn't good for people. That was one of the first commercial, that was one of the first product placement things. The Tang people told them, that wasn't good for people. It's ridiculous. And they sold that as like the astronaut drink. Proper nutrition.
Starting point is 00:00:51 You know, generations of Americans drank that shit. It was homemade Gatorade. Yeah, the watered down shitty Gatorade. We're getting our fucking astronaut vitamins. Without the electrolytes. Yeah, Tang's. I'm going to be an astronaut. Is Tang still around? Is Tang still around? I'm sure it is. Let's find out if Tang's still around. Yeah, Tang's... I'm going to be an astronaut. Is Tang still around?
Starting point is 00:01:05 Is Tang still around? I'm sure it is. Let's find out if Tang's still around. Yeah, it's still around. You know, if people today... Poor people somewhere are drinking it. People today are so unimpressed. If Tang was like, yeah, it's the astronaut program.
Starting point is 00:01:17 They're like, bitch, where's your astronauts now? Right. There's YouTube comments like, where's your astronauts? Who's going to the moon? Yeah, the last famous astronaut was a stalker racing from Florida to Houston to stab a lover or something. Well, I've been doing a bit. Wearing a diaper. She was wearing a diaper.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Wearing a diaper so she didn't have to stop. I wish Bingo could learn that trick. She drove the entire time, and she shit herself. She was an astronaut. She was crazy. Oh, yeah. Bitch was crazy. Tang the drink.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It seems like it's still around. Hmm. Most of that shit, if you look it up, you can buy it. If you can't find it in a store, you can find it online. Quisp cereal and old candy. We're talking about marathon bars. There's an original Tang.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Tang is sold in both powdered and ready to drink form. Oh, new Tang is where they jumped the shark. Did they? You can get original Tang now. Yeah, you could actually buy a sugar-free version of Tang containing aspartame. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Hmm. Oh, let's put more cancer in your diabetes. Hey, listen, Doug Stano. There's 10% of the RDA of vitamin A, calcium, vitamin E, and riboflavin. 10%. 10%. So 10 glasses of Tang and you're covered. That's almost half what Cocoa Puffs has.
Starting point is 00:02:37 It's got 100% of your vitamin C. Oh, that's actually pretty good. 100% of your vitamin C is not that much, though. The people that think you should take vitamin C think you should take a good amount of it. Like, take that shit all the time, but Doug Stanhope, you just take cigarettes, and you're fine. I have...
Starting point is 00:02:55 This week, I've been bad, but I quit a lot. You quit a lot? You held it back? Yeah. Have you ever tried the electronic route? Yeah, we've talked about this. Yeah? Yeah, Red Band said he was coughing up blood they're they're a lot better now like the newer ones are no they're terrible because i just i quit a month ago and i made it two weeks and i tried like four different brands and i was sucking on them constantly and i was off the sigs for a couple of weeks but my lungs were killing me at one point then it comes a point where you're like
Starting point is 00:03:21 well fuck give me a cigarette because you're just getting like blasts and blasts of nicotine, like more nicotine than you would be getting from just having a cigarette. I did great when I was at home alone. I had like six weeks off and I mean, there's full weeks I didn't smoke. And then sometimes someone would show up at my house that smokes and I'd steal a cigarette. So I'd smoke a couple and then six weeks of 95% quit smoking went on the road. And I'm like, all right, now I'm just going to bum them from the fucking so I'd smoke a couple and then six weeks of 95% quit smoking went on the road and I'm like, alright, now I'm just going to bum them
Starting point is 00:03:48 from the fucking opening acts. Whoever I find outside smoking, I send bingo out to go get me a couple cigarettes before the show and this week it's just after the fucking first night of party we were talking about. I'm buying packs. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Once you say fuck it, and that's the problem with being a comic, is you're inclined to say fuck it more often than not because it seems like the comic choice. When you're in that situation, you're like, come on, what's the fuck? This show must go on. I think there's a point. I quit a month ago, and I made it two weeks, and I wasn't working.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It was once I went back, and I did shows in Atlanta, and I was bumming them off the staff. And then I was in Minneapolis the next weekend after that and like snuck a pack and then just said, fuck it. I mean, I think like when you, cause I, cause I had, cause I was doing shows and that's my rhythm and having a cig and getting ready. Do you have a cig on stage while you're doing shows? No, I don't want to influence the kids.
Starting point is 00:04:39 But like before and after. Yeah. That was a thing where at the comedy store, it was a big deal because guys would smoke on stage and the audience members couldn't smoke. Because there was a provision of the law. Oh, right. It's a part of the show. Yeah. As a part of the performance, you're allowed to smoke.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But I think they dropped that. I don't think they allowed you to do that anymore. A lot of places. I remember because I did that. Immediately I was doing that when they passed it in California. Once I found out about that law, and I was doing it in Minneapolis, and then a bar started doing that as a night where smokers could be on stage. So the place is just all smoky, but you had to be on the stage.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Everyone's part of the performance. So they pushed it so far into their face that they changed the law. And I think most places have changed the law. Yeah, that sucks. They fucked it up. Remember when we started, the clubs where everyone smoked in the 80s? Honestly, I didn't mind back then. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 The smoke would dance in the spotlight. You're on stage. It was sexy. It was like a film noir movie. There is something about it, man, and pool halls as well. I don't like it. I don't like cigarettes. I think they're disgusting, and it scares me when I see my friend smoke because I know you're going to die ugly. I know you're going to die ugly and I love you. I tell this guy all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I love him, but he smokes. And when I see him smoke, I get scared. I get scared that you're locked up in a wrestling match with a dragon. It's a dark demon that's going to slowly rot you out from the insides and it tricks you into doing it. dark demon that's going to slowly rot you out from the insides and it tricks you into doing it. It sucks you into its web with habit and novelty and the idea that it's beautiful
Starting point is 00:06:10 to fucking smoke and suck it in. It feels good. I know. That's one thing. Then the other thing is it becomes part of your body. It becomes a part of you. You need it. It becomes your system. Your body gets integrated into accepting this. I feel like I got my equipment. I don't I got my equipment.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I don't know. Something about having a pack of cigarettes and a lighter on me. Well, listen, I'm not judging. I have friends that smoke. You feel like you're all set. I'm just telling you my feelings. You're all set. You're secure. I got what I need.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Retirement? Fuck that. I got a carton. And I'm a hypocrite because I like smoking weed. And I don't think smoking weed is bad for you. It's certainly not bad for you in the same way. Now, once the cigarette companies get a hold of it either way i don't think it's the best thing for you this is the best thing in the world for you to smoke a plant you know it's like i thought you went straight to vaporizer and edibles i do those two yeah i like edibles the most i i i just watched
Starting point is 00:07:01 you smoke so yeah fuck up no no i do that too. I mean, me. Oh, yeah. But I'm hypocritical in that sense because smoking's not good. It's not good to smoke something. Like Diaz stopped smoking. He only eats it and uses a vaporizer because he said his lungs started feeling way better once he did that. I believe it. And the edibles, as someone who doesn't live in California, the edibles here are ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You got every candy, Jolly Rancher candy, weed, York Peppermint Patties, anything you can think of, they've duplicated exactly like candy or popsicles. Well, there's a little bit of an issue. There is a little bit of an issue with it. It's beautiful that it exists. And I'm a complete libertarian in the idea that you should be able to you almost lit your filter. But this place is the weed culture in California is so more evolved than Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:07:51 They're so powerful that it's really like an intense psychedelic. If you eat one of these pot brownies or these Chuba Chews, they have these Chuba Chews that are like seven how many, what is it, milligrams? Take one-fourth if you don't want to die as fast.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah, I mean, they're insane. If you take the whole. It's one candy. And if you take that one candy, you will re-experience your entire life. From the moment you were an egg and the cum washed over you and turned you into two eggs and your cells started dividing. That's the ride I'm looking for. Could you take one of these candies? Could you take, say, one of these candies?
Starting point is 00:08:33 Say you already have a preexisting condition, a mental illness, say. And say you're at a rock star's house trying to get a podcast and you're doing incredible amounts of blow. trying to get a podcast and you're doing incredible amounts of blow and you go home with a little bit of that blow and then you do the rest of that blow while your boyfriend's sleeping preparing for the bill burr podcast and you also eat an edible while you have a pre-existing condition could you spiral into such a catatonic state that the landlord from the airbnb that you're staying in comes in to talk to you and you won't respond to him, so your boyfriend and your tour manager have to put you in bed where you pissed the bed in your first Airbnb
Starting point is 00:09:12 and it takes you 24 hours to come out of said can of tonic state? If I had to guess, I could say that could happen. Hypothetically? Did Marilyn Manson give you a gift bag when you left and a cocaine and edibles it wasn't me skin moisturizer wasn't me
Starting point is 00:09:29 you gotta be careful with that shit I had to check her text messages and it said we'll be there in time I just ate a pot candy and then I see an empty baggie and I'm like you did all that and now they like, you did all that.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And now they can get you. They can get you and take you on a ride that you're just not, you're not going to be capable of going out and just doing things, going to the airport, getting your clothes on. You're not going to be capable. And that's just, you could buy it at any store. Go buy one of these cupcakes, Buy one of these rocket cookies. Take this cookie and go right to the center of the fucking universe. I mean, they're intense psychedelics. We've talked about it before, but the chemical processes, when you eat it. Wait, is this ground already worked over on the Joe Rogan experience?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Hot cookies? Yeah. We've talked about it a few times. I know it sounds crazy. It seems so novel. I was at the clubs in LA. People at home are going, go back to Ting!
Starting point is 00:10:28 Tang, what about Tang again? If you eat that shit, it'll hurt you. It'll hurt you. You gotta be real careful. I've seen comedians all over LA with those little pen vaporizer things. That's different. That's not eating it. When you're eating it, you're getting this 11-hydroxy metabolite.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Oh, see, I always assumed those were e-cigarettes that everyone has. eating it when you're eating it yeah no I know but it's just 11 all the different varieties oh see I always assumed those were e-cigarettes that everyone has there's a lot of those are little weed vaporizers oh wow and they hit like a motherfucker they do hit like a motherfucker but there's both that's why I think that's the product I want to endorse that should be their slogan hits like a motherfucker I don't think that's a good move. If I read Hits Like a Motherfucker, I'd be like, who is the guy that's making this? That's all he could come up with? In podcasting, you could probably get copy like that.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Where you have to read that. This kicked me in the balls like a motherfucker. You should buy this. This will take you on a ride to the center of the universe, my man. And my man would be highlighted. You know, feel free to use your own colloquialism.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It's funny. When you were about to start, Red Band said, okay, we're live. And you go, oh, shit, we're live. Oh, don't say anything. You were making a joke. Right. Oh, don't say anything. We're live.
Starting point is 00:11:41 It's opposite. Yesterday, I fell in love with a man, fucking Bert Kreischer. he's a great man i fucking i like i clicked with him so quickly i'll get you met him no i've met him before but we never really hung out oh he's the best he's a sweetie and i knew that yeah he's a fucking wicked man crush right away his house is just like my house down to the... I walked in. I knew exactly where his booze stash was. I'm like, I'm just going to make a drink.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Anyway, fucking fell in love with the guy. He's a sweetie. We had to pause and go to break where we'd talk about shit. And then we'd come back on the air. There's certain stuff you can't talk about. Like trash talking other comics. Come back on the air. Well, he's can't like trash talking other comics come back on the air well he's on the travel channel too and the travel channel is owned by some religious folks oh yeah not like that but but that is a problem but he's got to be real careful about what he
Starting point is 00:12:36 does i'm trying to make a drink i mean he doesn't smoke weed but if he did he wouldn't do it on you stream you know i'm saying Who owns the travel channel Somebody that loves the baby Jesus Allegedly I might be just talking shit I don't know This is what I've read from Anthony Bourdain Certain conversations I might have had with him
Starting point is 00:12:57 Oh did you have Bourdain on the show Yeah yeah yeah He's a good dude His wife is a jujitsu fanatic. That's my in. That's how I got to meet Fred Dane. He followed me or retweeted me or something, and it was like I was so starstruck. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:13:14 He's following me. He's a sweetie. If you met the guy, you would love him. He's a sweetie. His show, since he's gone to CNN, I guess they had, you know, Visa access. So, like, his show's just going to a whole different level now. Yeah. He's, like, in Myanmar now.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, we're going to. Brian, by the way, I got plans, and one of the plans is flying to New York to do podcasts with people that we can't get to fly out here. Yeah. So, like, I can't keep asking people to just come out here. So guys like Bourdain, I'm going to find out when he's going to be there. Well, if they're driving, have them come to Bisbee. I'm going to try to use the Sirius studios. You should do a highlight on Bisbee.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Because we were on Sirius. We were on Sirius. I don't know if you know that. Oh, yeah. I listen to it all the time. It's the weirdest. So I wanted to get Bourdain and a few other guys that live there. CK.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah, yeah. Well, Louis is just so fucking busy. I feel bad asking him. Yeah, but he's on Opie and Anthony all the time. Yeah, but that's like when he can in the morning. I'll ask him. But I know he's on opiate and anything all the time just yeah but that's like you know when he can in the morning i'll ask him but um i know he's crazy but he's the most ridiculously busy person i've ever met yeah he's got a great this is a great bit that i saw that someone made a clip of him talking about it was it's really funny it starts him talking about nut allergies and he compares like things that you know to true, but there's always this too.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But maybe it's like, but I know, but maybe. It's fucking really funny, man. It's really funny. I didn't see one of CK's bits, his new bits off of his new special. God damn, it was good. It was really funny. New special. Yeah, the new one was in Phoenix in the theater in the round.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It's really, really good stuff, man. It's like you listen to it, you read it, and you watch it, rather, and you're like, fuck, I want to go write something. This made me want to go write. It was really good. Yeah. That's the best thing about it. I used to always think that about when Chappelle would come to the store.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I'd always want to run home and write. Yeah. Anything that gives you that little juice. Like, you want to create, too. Because you know how good it made you feel. Like, the last time I saw Chappelle at the store, it was, like, the height of his popularity. Before he quit the Comedy Central show.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And he was just, he would just show up, like, maybe, like, the day before they would schedule this. And he would just be mobbed. And he was in the main room. maybe the day before they would schedule this, and it would just be mobbed, and he was in the main room. And he... It was so funny and so... I hadn't seen him in six months, and it was all new shit.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It was 100% new. It was like a new hour. And you left there just going, God damn, I need to go to work. I want to go right. He had that gift, I'll say, in a very fucking stupid way but he's one of those guys he talks funny anyway so he already has a leg up this is joey said it as you said it best that diaz could read the phone book right right so he has that already but he can write too so if it's new shit what what would you know be filler to him would be a closer to me yeah
Starting point is 00:16:07 diaz has i mean i don't i don't want to give up any of his material but he's got this bit about this chick named lucy snore bush he's told the story about on the podcast but now he's turned into a bit in his act a true story about him sneaking into her house climbing into her window and eating her pussy in the middle of the night and then escaping. I don't think I've ever laughed as hard in my life. We just did Santa Barbara together and I was watching him on stage and he's doing this Lucy Snorbusch thing and I'm having a hard time catching my breath. Like I'm legitimately having a hard time catching my breath. I saw Diaz in San Francisco and he was doing that bit where he's like, he like punches
Starting point is 00:16:43 a hooker and the audience is dying. In San Francisco, they're like usually really touchy about like, who can get a laugh? He had a hooker with a black eye.
Starting point is 00:16:53 The dude with the wig and a black eye. There's no support groups for these people. He's one of the best ever. Like as far as like just human beings. I can hear him saying
Starting point is 00:17:00 Lisa Snorbus and just laughing at him. Lucy Snorbus. Lucy Snorbus. That was her name. Lucy Snorbus. Yeah. And just laughing at him. Lucy Snorbus. Lucy Snorbus. That was her name. Lucy Snorbus. It was painfully funny. It was painfully funny.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He's my all-time favorite. Out of all the people I've ever seen that made me laugh the hardest, not a single person has ever made me laugh harder than Diaz. Me and Kreischer were picking our ultimate four-man tour with a wild card fuck-up. Diaz. He picked Diaz as his fuck-up. I have to see him. Diaz is so good that I started taking two guys on the road with me during the dark days
Starting point is 00:17:40 when Diaz would just go vanish in the middle of the night. But he was so good that I said okay I need a backup opener so it bring two openers because there's too many times Diaz just vanished he just would disappear just couldn't call him I I got booked like that for Otto and George where they wanted to book Otto and George but they needed to co-headline him so if he didn't show up there was another x-rated act that could fit the fucking marquee. You gotta do that, man. Unfortunately with some guys, but they're worth it.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Diaz is, and now he's super reliable. Now he's just, every gig he's there. I'm too old to disappear! Well, he's just into comedy now. I think it's just for the first time in his life, he's being recognized for what he does and he's enjoying creating new shit
Starting point is 00:18:26 he's enjoying being a comic like when i talked to him about he's got a lot of other success like he's always getting called into movies and shit and you know he did that uh i sat i sat through the grudge match just because i knew he was in it he's having a lot of those that are happening to him but the big thing is his stand-up man his stand- stand-up. He's selling out everywhere. He deserves it. Yeah, he fuck yeah. What a difference when the audience already loves you when you get there. A completely different animal. Dude, he went on stage in Santa Barbara when we worked together
Starting point is 00:18:54 and I've taken some of his openings where I introduce him and then I film it, like watching him go on stage. I put him on YouTube because they're so ridiculous. He goes on stage and people standing up, like bowing to him, screaming. Like 2,000 people screaming and bowing to Joey Diaz. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And for a guy like that to finally get that, you know, dude, I just take you on the road. And it's always great to see a guy that age. Yeah. Yeah, he deserves it, though, man. Coming into the church, he's a nut player. He's an animal, dude. He's an animal. He's an animal.
Starting point is 00:19:23 If I could hire a 24-hour nurse to keep him alive, I would. Just don't think he would. Get the fuck out of there. Listen, I'm Cuban. I'm never going to die. Get out of here, bitch. Kick him out of his house. You got to find out.
Starting point is 00:19:35 A guy like that, you got to take care of in a gentle fashion. You got to figure out how to keep him alive. Trick him. Trick him. Yeah, I'm going to. Put that pill in a piece of cheese. Find some fucking new drugs and put it in his ice cream. Take it and put it in something, some new thing, regenerative tissue thing that the government invents.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Just throw it in his food. Hey, Brian told me the other night you're getting your blood re-injected. Was that bullshit? What? No, no, no. You fucker. No, it was true. Well, it's not your blood re-injected.
Starting point is 00:20:04 It's called Reginokine. What the fuck? It was no. You fucker. No, it was true. Well, it's not your blood re-injected. It's called Reginokine. What the fuck? It was invented by this German guy. It's your blood. They spin it in a centrifuge, and they heat it up. So you take your blood out, and then you whip it in this machine. We're doing ad copy again? No.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Reginokine.com. Man, there's a guy named Dr. Peter Weller, I believe his name is. He developed this process for dealing with inflammation. That's the other guy. You know, you might be right. I might have the wrong guy. Hold on a second. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I'll do the ad while you look it up. It's not an ad. ReginaG.com. It's not an ad. Are you tired of looking at those senagenics guys? Half naked in a SkyMall catalog? Oh, Douglas. This will make your face young, too.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Oh, Douglas. Anybody that's in pain, it can be a tremendous help. It's the most potent anti-inflammatory drug that human beings have ever figured out. Well, I did it a few times. It's amazing. It was all these professional athletes. That is so Keith Richards of you. I have an anti-inflammatory drug.
Starting point is 00:20:59 It's called alcoholism, and it works on my penis. I don't think it works. It hasn't been inflamed in years. Peter Welling. You're right. It's not, it's Welling. It's not Robocop. Say it again.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I said Weller. No, no, what did you say to me? Oh, the right, you're right? Yeah. Sweetie, I love you. You're right always. I'm blushing. I refer to you more than I refer to myself.
Starting point is 00:21:18 How about that? But he was a guy in Germany who figured this shit out. They take your blood and they heat it. And your blood has a reaction while it's still viable. It has a reaction to the heat as if it's got a fever. And it creates this intense anti-inflammatory response. So it's in the very blood itself. They take it out of your body.
Starting point is 00:21:36 They heat it. They spin it. And then it creates this yellow shit. And this yellow shit, they pull it out. And they call it something, Regenikine serum. I don't know the technical. And then they squirt it into anywhere you have arthritis, anywhere you have
Starting point is 00:21:48 any kind of swelling, inflammation and it has like a magical response. That's why all these athletes like, that's what got Peyton Manning back into football. He had two neck surgeries and he was fucked. He went to Germany and he got this procedure done on his neck and it just fixed it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's crazy. I was talking to Sean Rouse. I don't know if you know him. Serious arthritis. Yeah, and he wants to talk to you about it. I would love to talk to him about it. If you look at his hands, he needs to break all his hands, go to his operations. No, he's got some serious arthritis. He's got rheumatoid.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah, Sean, Jesus Christ, he's got the most crippling arthritis. Which I should say, because of Sean Rouse, I saw a young comedian get knocked the fuck out the other night at the comedy store. Somebody got knocked out by an audience member? I was sitting there with Jason Rouse, Canadian guy who lived in London, and J.J. Whitehead, Canadian guys at the other end, and then Sean, and he was plastered, man. Who was Rouse? Sean Rouse. No way. Yeah, he's sitting, and he was plastered, man. Who was, Rouse? Sean Rouse. No way. Yeah, he's sitting there.
Starting point is 00:22:48 This story just lost all credibility. I'm talking to, there's a guy from Boston, Mike Favorman or whatever. Sure. This tall, young, open mic comedian, we found out he was an open mic-er later, comes up. I thought he knew Jason and JJ because of the way he's making fun of him. One guy,
Starting point is 00:23:03 Jason's got a lot of tats. He's always making stupid tattoo jokes. Right. And I'm kind of talking to Mike from Boston. Is Chaley there? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Chaley wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:23:15 He had left earlier. We heard that Rouse was really fucked up. Rouse was. Yeah, he was plastered. So anyway, this fucking... Tom Rhodes, bronze medalist
Starting point is 00:23:23 in story editing. This comedian, the guy, turns to Sean very grandly to the table, and he goes, I'm sorry to bother you, gentlemen. I just couldn't pass up the chance to meet Moby. And he, like, sticks his hand out to Sean, who's all fucked up and can barely lift his head. This kid was a fucking douche. And Mike from Boston's got, like,
Starting point is 00:23:42 the kind of taxi driver newsstand guy hat on. And then the kid grandly turns this table of veteran comedians sitting here grandly turns to Mike and he goes, I'll be seeing you in the morning when I come to pick up my newspaper. Faberman?
Starting point is 00:23:57 He said that to Faberman? Faberman doesn't play. And this kid was being such, and I was joking around when I said it. I turned, and this kid was being such, and I was joking around when I said it. I turned to Mike, I go, I'll give you $20 if you punch this kid in the face. And his comedic timing was brilliant. He didn't miss, just boom. And this kid went back, and it was, this hell broke loose.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I don't know what the kid's name, but oh my God. Faberman is a legit savage. He's the wrong guy to fuck with. Well, I mean, who this guy? And then all this, you know, and he's on the sidewalk. Was this in the showroom? No, no, out on the patio bar. It's like the Wild West there, man.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Faberman has a story about fucking this maid. It's one of the funniest stories I've ever heard in my life. Hey, while you sit over there, pull up a picture of Faberman. Listen, do you not have to yell at him? I just don't know if I... You don't know Mike Faberman? No. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:49 I don't know. He's a good dude. I just met him recently. He's a great dude. He had this story about he was beaten off in his hotel room, and the maid opened up the door, and the maid freaked out. He goes, no, no, no, come on, shut the door, shut the door. He's like the only guy ever to get caught beating off and fucking a maid.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Like, ever. Like, he really did it. He said, the only guy ever to get caught beating off and fucking a maid. Like ever. Like he really did it. He said, I go, what does she look like? Did he pay her? No. No. I go, what does she look like? She goes, it wasn't no prize.
Starting point is 00:25:14 It wasn't no prize. Jesus, he looks like Inman. Mike's a good dude. Mike, he's a good dude. He's a very good cook. Oh, wait. He plays a professional chef. He plays Punchy in Ray Donovan.
Starting point is 00:25:25 He doesn't. That picture. I know the picture. It's the hat, man. It was like a movie scene, this kid. Faberman will punch you in your fucking face. He's crazy. He's always been crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:38 He's a good dude, though. Oh, the wife beater right there. There he is with Homeboy from the radio. What's his name? Oh, the wife beater right there. There he is with Homeboy from the radio. What's his name? Oh, which one? Oh, yeah. Fraser Smith. Fraser Smith.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And Don Barris. He's a Boston guy? Fraser Smith used to have a radio show here. No, no. Faberman. Yeah, he's from Boston originally. Yeah, Faberman. I was just going to say he looked like the funniest guy at the barbecue, and you switched to a picture of barbecue.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I hung out with Faberman, Joey Diaz, and Ralphie May the day 9-11 happened. Wow. The day they shut down all the flights, the day the shit hit the fan. We all got high. We went to Baja Fresh. We ate some burritos, and we stared at the sky. It's like, dude, there's no planes. There's no fucking planes.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And then we went over to Ralphie's place. And Ralphie and Faberman lived in the same area. Was he a gardener then? Faberman? No, Ralphie. By my old place. Gardener by Coaching Horses? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Actually, you know what? I'm sorry. We went to Faberman's place. And Ralphie came over to buy wheat. Because Faberman used to sell wheat. That was your September 11th. Because you used to live in that same sort of building. It's the fattest guy in the world, because this is Armageddon, and we're going to need to eat someone.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Faberman had some good weed. No, he had some good weed. And we were like, well, the world is ending. Let's go get fucked up. So we went and got high. It was me and Diaz and Faberman and Ralphie May. And it was 2001. and Faberman and Ralphie May and it was 2001.
Starting point is 00:27:03 It was the day when we were just sitting around smoking weed, talking about how crazy it is. We might be in the middle of a war. We were thinking at that moment in time that this is just the beginning. The planes flew into buildings, but what if shit starts happening left and right? What if we start seeing missiles
Starting point is 00:27:19 headed to LA? What if we see LA hit with a nuke? Fuck, that's just as likely as two planes flying into buildings in the same day. So we were freaking out, and we were all getting high together. I was in Amsterdam at the zoo. 3 o'clock at the
Starting point is 00:27:36 zoo in Amsterdam is feeding time. That's 3 p.m. is 9 a.m. in New York City. And I had been there before for it, and I knew I wanted to be in front of the lion cages at 3 o'clock when they're throwing the meat out. It's cool. The lions start. They can smell the meat in the back
Starting point is 00:27:51 and they start pacing and growling and there's these metal doors and they're scratching on it and shit. It's pretty cool. And then they open the metal doors and they grab the meat. So when the planes hit, I was watching lions rip raw meat apart. See, I would have assumed all the animals
Starting point is 00:28:07 would have run for the hills knowing 9-11 was about to happen. How come they don't do that? The Netherlands is so open-minded. Why don't they feed those animals animals? Why do they have to feed them meat? They want to eat animals. More important, why is Baja Fresh open on 9-11? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Baja Fresh supports our troops. Our troops need to fuel up. They were a part of it. Some healthy carbs. That's what it is. Our troops need to fuel up. We need beans. We need beans.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Jalapenos? Baja Fresh supports the troops. Mike Faberman was the guy that actually put together that boxing match with all the comics. How did I not hear about this? One of the guys had cerebral palsy and I was like,
Starting point is 00:28:58 that's not good. If it's Josh Blue against Crazy Legs Fonseca? Either one of those guys should not be hitting each other and then maybe falling on each other and headbutting each other on the way down. Fonseca's in a chair. How far can he fall?
Starting point is 00:29:12 They're both going to get fucked up. How did I not hear about a comedy boxing match, and when did this happen? Oh, it's filmed, too. He filmed it. He's trying to make it a show. It's a really good movie. Comedy boxing match.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I know too much about brain damage. But how did this happen? When did this happen? I don't know. Was it Faberman's idea? Yeah, Faberman and Rusty Dooley. Who fought who? Rusty Dooley.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. Rusty Dooley, best six-pack in all of comedy. Kid shredded. No doubt. I have two three-packs. I got a vernal hernia, ventral hernia. Do you really? Yeah, my six-pack split.
Starting point is 00:29:44 You should get that shit fixed Bravo had one of those Eddie He had two of them One on each side He had it fixed Ventral just means front I found out through my doctor google
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's pretty intense They put like a webbing Mesh in your skin And they sew it in And they sew the area that's wounded And it becomes more strong. I got that in my umbilical hernia. Then I coughed myself into a groinal hernia that I haven't had fixed, and now I have a ventral hernia.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I showed it to Kreischer on his podcast. He took pictures, so that'll be up next week. Jesus Christ. It's like alien bursting out of your chest. What is it? What's it from? It's your six-pack splits and your guts start to... Only in a position. I was trying to stretch my back
Starting point is 00:30:29 like I was doing sit-ups. Are you trying to stretch your back? No, that's how I noticed it. It doesn't hurt or anything. You don't feel anything? No, I was trying to lean off the back of a bed most of my body and I leaned down and then my fucking this hump comes out of my chest like alien
Starting point is 00:30:46 and Bingo looked down and it audibly screamed and I'm like oh shit that can't be good dude dude dude seriously imagine if you were really possessed what would you do if like demons I wouldn't do a sit up off the bed and I'd be fine if you sat back
Starting point is 00:31:02 and you're like what the fuck and it's like little jack-o-lantern's underneath your skin moving around your stomach. What would you do, Doug Stanhope? Would you go to Jesus? I'd do exactly what I'm doing with this hernia and the other hernia is ignore it. No. You can't ignore a fucking jack-o'-lantern demon living in your gut. If you saw it poking through your skin and moving around and laughing at you,
Starting point is 00:31:26 you'd have to address it. No, I would drink and then ask Tom. When you drink, it's easy to ignore obvious problems. But that's been my life medical plan. Like my family. You know, you don't go to the doctor unless you get a bullet wound. Right. And I just got insurance. His family invented the phrase, it's just a flesh wound.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I just got health insurance under the deadline. And I actually stopped drinking January 1st. I blacked out in Philadelphia. Oh, good story. And I busted my head open. I got six stitches. See the nice scar? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah. And I didn't, you know, it's too bad. What was it? Did they figure out what caused it? I got drunk and fell down. So just being hammered. Hang on, I've heard the story, so I'm going to use this opportunity to piss. So you blacked out just because you were drunk and then you fell down.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Has that ever happened before? I mean, for a second. Over the years, it's happened a couple times. I mean, getting drunk and falling down is one thing. But did you black out? I kind of for a second. Over the years, it's happened a couple times. I mean, getting drunk and falling down is one thing. But did you black out? I kind of blacked out. I was not working. I did Helium in Philadelphia for New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Great room. Had three sold-out shows. Fantastic fucking night. It wasn't New Year's Eve night. Because New Year's Eve was on a Wednesday. They had me do the stay for the Friday-Saturday. I'm off January 1st, and I went out by myself. I actually stayed in and worked all day. And then I went out about 8, 9 o'clock, and I watched the Fiesta Bowl, and I had 10 Sierra Nevadas.
Starting point is 00:32:59 My brother was at the game, and I texted my brother. I was texting my brother, great game, love you, bro, and just fell forward off a stool and hit the tile ground. And this guy grabs my arm and he's lifting me up and he goes, we got to call an ambulance. And I go, fuck that. I don't have health insurance. I woke up once and I hit it at the ground, by the way. But this guy goes, we got to call an ambulance. I go, fuck that. I don't have health insurance. Don't you dare call an ambulance. I go, how far is the hospital? He said, two blocks. I go, two blocks and you were going to call an ambulance? That's like 15 grand.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Oh my God. You know? And I, so I walked to the hospital, but you know, I didn't have health insurance and, uh, you know, had the Obama deadline been January 1st, I'd have been covered. What, what, does anybody understand this? Do you know anything about it? No, I got, uh, at some points I met a insurance person and I have like catastrophic insurance. So if I get like really fucked up in a car wreck, they'll cover that. I don't, again, I don't go to doctors. It's just not something I do. I don't either.
Starting point is 00:34:01 It's probably a good move. So I don't have any idea how health insurance works. Yeah, no, if I need to get out of a social situation really badly, I'll go to a doctor because I know they're going to go, you have to be admitted right away. And I'll go, sorry honey, I can't go to bed and breakfast
Starting point is 00:34:18 with your parents like I promised when I was drunk. That's a fucking great strategy. As long as you can keep the wheels on it, it's a great strategy. Because there's a lot of cars that keep rolling down the hill, and they make a lot of squeaky noises, but they still get there somehow. How many surgeries have you had? Many. How many?
Starting point is 00:34:33 And you're in perfect Europe. What kind of insurance do you have? You have a specimen that you can get your blood transferred. The point is, he's in perfect physical condition, doesn't smoke cigarettes. I've had one surgery that I got for free on a trade-out by asking for it on my website. Hey, listen, I'm not denying that you make a lot of good points. I would never tell anybody to take the path that I've taken. Like, physically?
Starting point is 00:34:59 It's not a good move. Yes, you would. No, I wouldn't unless you really wanted to. But if you tear your knee doing something, don't keep doing it. You get six months of rehab. I just couldn't wait for the six months to get over. I'm always sad when I see a friend that's into MMA because I know he's going to die an ugly death. You know, all bullshit aside, I am sad when I see a guy who doesn't know that he shouldn't be doing it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 There's a lot of guys that, like, wind up, not jiu-jitsu. Jiu-jitsu is for anybody. Anybody can do jiu-jitsu. But competitive MMA, there's some guys that just shouldn't be doing it. Good, because at the end of this podcast, Tom and I are going to jiu-jitsu each other in a death match. It's going to be the biggest girl kicking match in the world. Slap fight.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Getting hit is a completely different story, though. I've had two knee surgeries, I've had a nose surgery those are like the two big ones nose surgery? yeah I've actually had three knee surgeries now that I think about it because I had two on one knee I had an ACL reconstructed then I had my meniscus scoped and the other one I had the ACL reconstructed
Starting point is 00:36:00 then I had my nose opened up because I had a lot of scar tissue in there when you forget surgeries I remember my cousin did a pilot. My cousin did a pilot in 1984 with Christopher Lloyd. He's the guy from Back to the Future? Yeah. Massachusetts, your snapshot was in the paper in the back row of a thing. Everyone talks about it.
Starting point is 00:36:22 So it was a big deal. And I moved to L.A. I saw Christopher Lloyd at the bar at the improv and I went up I go hey I don't know if you remember I don't want to approach you but Grant Forsberg is my cousin and you did a television pilot with him in the 80s and he goes a lot of TV shows yeah how do you get that fucking yeah well fuck that you forget a TV show but when you forget surgeries... Well, you think about how many TV shows that guy's had.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I've only had four surgeries. Four pretty major ones. But you forgot one. Actually, now that I think about it, it's three knee surgeries. Well, you start treating your body like a car. You blow out a tire, you go, all right, I've got to get another tire.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Can they fix it? As long as they can fix it. But shit that gets weird is like spinal shit. And that's why I've been getting this Regenikine shit. The Regenikine stuff is because of a bulging disc. Wait, you haven't stopped mixed martial arts. Well, not jiu-jitsu. I haven't stopped jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:37:17 You've gotten into Regina Kane from some Nazi doctor. Mengele Jr. has got you on the yellow stuff. I had to take a break for a year from jiu-jitsu because of this injury, so I'm trying to get back in shape to do it again. It's just too much fun. You know, it's like, that's why I sympathize with you guys smoking cigarettes. I understand what you're doing. It's just my
Starting point is 00:37:37 what I do, the risks I take are a different kind of physical. You're going to see Sean Rowe shaking in an alley, scratching his arm. I need some more of the yellow shit, man. Heat my blood. I need more of the yellow shit. It's not cheap. That's the other problem. Is Rouse
Starting point is 00:37:53 making money? Do you think Obamacare will take care of it? Oh, suck your dick, man. Sean, you're not that young anymore. I saw. Yeah, I don't think it is. I don't think it's covered by any insurance. It's what's called off-label. I saw... You can only buy it in Bitcoin. It's that kind of...
Starting point is 00:38:10 Dogecoin. You can use Dogecoin, too. They accept... Now accepting Dogecoin. I made... From that thing with that dude is over 2,000 bucks. That's amazing. 2,100 bucks going to him.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah. We had... He would donate Bitcoin and I would treat the Bitcoin like it was real money and I would take whatever anybody donated in Bitcoin and send it to my friend who's living in the Congo and he's helping pygmies in the Congo
Starting point is 00:38:36 building the wells and shit. So he's going to send it's going to be real. Actually, fuck it, I'll double it. Whatever it is. That's awesome. Whatever other people put in, I'll put in the exact same amount. So I think it's like $2,100. It's pretty cool. It's great.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Because the guy's living in the Congo. He used to be a mixed martial arts fighter, and he just went down there for a vacation just to see what it was like. And he fell in love with these people, this idea that these people in the Congo, these pygmies, are these really suppressed people that are forced to work in mines and they don't have any no one's taking care of them there's no medicine there's no water they don't clean water so he's building them wells and shit and it's really amazing it's amazing shit judge you want to put a disclaimer though like I'm a
Starting point is 00:39:18 maximum amount cuz you don't have to be like I don't know if it's more than 50 grand you can go fuck yourself. If it gets crazy. I like the pygmies, but come on. Yeah, because I mean, it's Bitcoin. Some guy's just like, oh yeah, here's 2 billion Bitcoin. I don't know what it's really, that's what's weird about it. It's like it varies. Like one day it'll be worth 2,900 bucks or 1,900 bucks. The other day it'll be worth 2,100 bucks.
Starting point is 00:39:40 It totally varies from day to day. It's strange. It's like it makes a lot of sense. If you don't know what it is, do you know what it is at all? Do you ever follow it? The Bitcoin thing. It's really hard to follow. No, I can't. I can't do basic math. Well, it's not even that. We had this guy
Starting point is 00:39:58 Andreas Antonopoulos explain it to us in very clear terms. We're still like, what's up for you, Mr. Antonopoulos? He explained it to us in very clear terms. We still were like, He explained it. But essentially, it's got a very set number of Bitcoins that exist. And so inflation is sort of removed from the equation. Like the gold standard. It's sort of similar.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Which I don't understand. I don't understand either. But it's all done on computers. It's all like ones and zeros. You know, I don't understand. I don't understand either. But it's all done on computers. It's all like ones and zeros. You know, I don't know if it's a good idea, I don't know if it's a bad idea, but it seems to be a at least a person
Starting point is 00:40:34 could, it's like, we all agree like, you live in a small town so I think in a small town you get a better sense of community. And we kind of all agree that, you know, like if you go to a place and they're selling sandwiches, like how much is sandwiches? Five bucks. That sounds right. That sounds right. Makes sense. But if we didn't have money and we had to use some sort of a barter system,
Starting point is 00:40:55 we'd still figure out what's worth what. You know, that's what we would do. How many sandwiches are available? Yeah. But we're trapped in this idea that money is the only way to do it. Dollars, quarters, fives, twenty. This is the only way to do it. But it's not the only way to do it. If enough fucking people agree to go this Bitcoin route,
Starting point is 00:41:14 it's already established. Like, this is a real possibility. And everybody's poo-pooing it like it's a joke. And it is kind of a joke in some ways, because... Enough people are getting the joke yeah you're right a magic the gathering was the fucking the big server that went down like wait a minute wait a minute you had a magic the gathering exchange and it became one of the
Starting point is 00:41:34 biggest bitcoin sites in the world like what the fuck like magic and didn't have the right security the whole thing is set up wrong winds up losing 350 million plus dollars in bitcoins like the the direct equivalent of like the guy the guy gets robbed and everybody has their money in this exchange just gets fucking robbed but it's still going it's still going see how we can just shut us down we want to throw in some fucking smart ass it's all smart on us and we have to sit down. I'm not saying you're smart. I want you to get goofy, but this is a fascinating thing in our time.
Starting point is 00:42:10 We're seeing an alternative to dollars. The first viable alternative. Everyone goes to, what, internet currency, and then someone could easily rob your banks or everything. That's what they're doing with regular money, though. Or you could just lose your iPhone. What the... I have an alternative to money.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Hey, I'll put you on the guest list. You write the number down. All you have to do is write the number down. It's not that hard. Oh, great. Another currency. I'm broken. But it's not that. There you go. Hey, good smart-ass barb, sir. You guys are teaming up
Starting point is 00:42:39 on my strategy to introduce new ideas. You and your ability to retain knowledge. Rub it in our face. It's not. I don't retain knowledge. I retain information. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:50 So the knowledge of it, the reason why I keep talking about it over and over again is the knowledge is not sinking in. So I don't really get it. So I talk about it over and over again. I see your reaction to it, and you're like, whoa, that's fucking crazy. And then slowly but surely it becomes knowledge. If people talk to me in analogies, then I can get it. And I try to do that with, when I'm trying to do a bit that other people might, I'll go, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Okay, if you can make it stupid for me like a kid, okay, honey, imagine if you had two apples. Yeah. Jimmy stole one of your apples. Oh, I get it now. I do that all the time. I think that's a great way of communicating fucked up ideas. But even then, I feel like I'm unqualified.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But it's important to do both. It's important to say it, use the big words and then go, I mean, it's like this, like this. So, okay, now you understand the big word I just learned with the stupidity I needed to learn it. Especially if you're on stage and you're telling a joke. Because if you do that, you can actually make someone laugh at something they ordinarily would
Starting point is 00:43:52 argue with you about. Right. You could just sneak it in. Yeah. Okay. We're both on the same page. I love you. Don't we have some ad copy to read? I'm just here to do the advertisement. We're done. The ad copy's over. Forever.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Come on. One more ad? Can't do it. Did you see that footage of a drone going in the... How dare you make me uncomfortable? In Japan. A drone? Yeah, the drone went into the radiation in Japan and it's just flying around like the
Starting point is 00:44:16 deserted cities and it's so creepy because all these houses have nothing. Is it glowing? No, but it hasn't been touched since it happened. It's really... Yeah, great, great. What are you trying to scare the fuck out of me? The only thing
Starting point is 00:44:29 that scares the fuck out of me more than radiation is sharks. Oh, look at that. They're like, the radiation's going to kill you in the ocean. Well, the sharks
Starting point is 00:44:37 will kill you first. How about that? Do you not swim? Fuck that, dude. I go in the water up to my waist in Hawaii and I panic every time. Because last time I was there, a woman got killed by a shark.
Starting point is 00:44:50 That's real. Yeah, I know. That's like if I was there and a woman got murdered by the werewolf. Would you go in the woods? You'd be like, I'm not going in the fucking woods. But they're like, hey, no. Costa Rica, I'll go in the water. But no, we're going to Hawaii tomorrow, the next day.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I won't go in the water. Fuck that. Those fucking tiger sharks, man. They're too scary. Tiger sharks and bull sharks. Those are the scariest ones. Do you know that fucking, the whole movie Jaws was based on something that happened in fresh water? Oh, the New Jersey thing?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's fresh water. It was a river. Oh, wait. No, that's not the New Jersey thing. There was a rash of New Jersey shark attacks in the early 1900s. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It was in a river. It was not fresh water. Yeah, it was. All right. That's what's fucked. There's a thing called a bull shark that swims in the fresh water. They swim so far in fresh water that they saw them in Illinois. They have them up the Mississippi River in fucking Illinois, a shark.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Well, that's just more. That came directly from the ocean. That's more reason we need stronger immigration policy. That's why you can't take my guns from me, Doug Stainhope. Build a wall, build a fence. That's what I say. I literally
Starting point is 00:45:58 saw a song the other day that was talking about prying a gun from my cold, dead hands. That was the song. It's like, you can come get my gun from my cold dead hands like this guy thought about that Wrote it down said fuck and I'm putting this shit on wax But you heard it. Oh, I heard the whole song. I listened to the whole song. So someone's putting it out Someone's on his side. There's some What's the guy's name the stapler guy from office space that played.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Steven Root. If you can't get the fucking reference right away, drop the joke, Stan Hope. Yeah. Steven Root. Man of constant sorrow. There's a long way to get to this pointless reference. He played the record guy that's the guys with the thing
Starting point is 00:46:46 the man of constant sorrow and George Clooney and the... Yeah, see? He put it on wax too. It wasn't Lee Greenwood, was it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Let's just say yes. See, Tom gets what I'm saying. Almost. That guy, Lee Greenwood, nothing was happening in his career. He had that one song, I'm proud to be an American.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Fucking nothing's going on in his career. And then September 11th happened. Boom! His career's on fire! I always tell Henry Phillips to write a Christmas song. They're so desperate to have another Christmas song that they will play any fucking thing about Christmas. They're so desperate to have a Christmas song, they went with the Hanukkah song. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah. They went with the Adam Sandler Hanukkah song. Remember that? Yeah. They went with the Adam Sandler Hanukkah song. Every year. Grandma still got run over by a reindeer fucking 30 years later. They can't wait
Starting point is 00:47:32 to have one more. Henry Phillips, get off your ass and get a fucking Christmas song. How about they don't even come up with new Christmas cartoons? The same fucking cartoons.
Starting point is 00:47:40 The Grinch stole Christmas. It would be CGI now and the Grinch would be like crushing villages. They'd be evil looking. They'dinch stole Christmas. It would be CGI now, and the Grinch would be crushing villages. Yeah, he'd be evil looking. He'd be very demonic. He wouldn't be so sweet and cuddly. You saw what they did with Batman. They could probably do that with the Grinch.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Did you watch the latest Batman? I've never watched the Batman where the tragedy occurred, where those people get shot in Colorado for whatever reason. That's the best Batman ever with Christian Bale and what's his name who died. I've heard it's awesome. That's the greatest Batman.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I'm done with Batman. That was the greatest Batman ever. The Dark Knight? That's it. I didn't see it. Best Batman ever. Because of what happened in Colorado? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:16 It's too bad that happened. No, no, no. I'm saying the reason I don't watch it is because of that. Columbine? No. Because of Columbine. One of the comics from the Comedy Works guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. because of that. Oh, I see. Columbine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Because of Columbine. One of the comics from the Comedy Works guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Serious business. Yeah. Oh, the theater. The theater shooting guy. That guy. Because for whatever reason, that movie's connected in my head to that event. Yeah, that's fucked up. I can't just watch that movie.
Starting point is 00:48:38 If I watch that movie, I'll kind of get weirded out. How does that one shooting weird you out? I saw it in the theater after that happened, like a few weeks later, and then you're in the theater thing and you're looking at the fucking exit doors. I'm not saying it's logical. Oh, I don't go to actual movies. I saw it at home. But I had to see it with bingo.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I could see why the man was traumatized. I'm not traumatized. I just chose not to see it because I thought about seeing it a few times and I just kept getting that thing in my head that a bunch of people fucking died while this movie was being made. That's all it is. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. I know it doesn't make any sense. I'm not
Starting point is 00:49:15 like arguing the logical you know, that it makes sense that I have this weird thing. I love that while you're saying this, you're slamming ice into your glass. I know this doesn't make sense, but I just need a drink. I need a little something to take the edge off. I'm not. There's no edge, Doug Stano.
Starting point is 00:49:32 How dare you? I know it doesn't make any sense. I'm not a defender. Why would they ever make another superhero movie? They made another Superman. I loved Captain America. They're fun. They're stupid as fuck. You know he's going to be alive at the end. I read the Captain America comic book when I was a kid. One of the few that I looked at.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And it was the lamest. Dude, the superhero. He couldn't fly. He had to fly on the thing. And then he had the shield. He was like the biggest pussy superhero ever. And then in the late 70s, there was a black character called the Falcon. Alright, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Captain America would be getting his ass whooped and his black friend the Falcon. Alright, I'm out. Captain America would be getting his ass whooped and his black friend the Falcon would come and save him. Yeah, well that's how it usually happens in real life. You know? Magical Negro. You call your friend. But it was cute how they introduced...
Starting point is 00:50:19 You're good. But a black character couldn't get his own comic book. He had to be introduced. He had to be introduced. He had three pages in Captain America. Marvel was a little bit more bold. Marvel had Blade. Blade was a superhero.
Starting point is 00:50:32 He was a black guy. Nightcrawler. I'm sure that came out much later. He wasn't really black. Well, I guess he was more demonic. I had Roger from What's Happening. He's geeky, but he was the smart one of his group. happening. He's geeky, but he was the smart one of his group.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I was the Roger of my social circle. Captain America was still fun. I know it was stupid. I know the premise is stupid, but it's still a fun movie. Just nonsense. You're watching nonsense for a couple hours laughing, having a good time, watching spaceships getting shot up by missiles and whatever. It's stupid, but it's fun. Nobody got shot.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You can enjoy that. Plenty of people got shot. A lot of people died in Captain America. No, in a movie theater in Colorado. Oh, in the premiere. Oh, did you forget where your heart was at the beginning of this conversation? I forgot my true loyalty. I know it doesn't make sense that I don't watch the Batman movie.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And I've come close to watching it a few times, but I always think, I don't want to fucking see it. Best whatever. Just because of that. That guy did Joker. He was amazing. I'm sure. I'm sure. I mean, that Heath Ledger character was fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. He was amazing. The other Batman. Wait. Yeah, no. I'm getting confused. That's the one. Heath Ledger was the Joker.
Starting point is 00:51:44 No, Heath Ledger wasn't around when he was already dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the one. Heath Ledger was the Joker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was his foot. No, Bane. Oh, Bane. Christian Bale was the Batman. No, Bane was the guy. Heath Ledger's years ago.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Tom Rhodes, you became my grandpa. Look at you. You're like my grandpa. He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, but yells about it. That's a fucking John Wayne. It was a John Wayne movie. I know every time I say Heath Ledger on stage, I know how
Starting point is 00:52:07 dated it is. Was Heath Ledger in the new Batman? No, right? No, I didn't say he was in the new Batman. He was in the one at the premiere shooting. No, he wasn't? The new one was the Bane one. The Bane one was the one where the guy came out. Is that a year ago or two years ago? 2012, The Dark
Starting point is 00:52:24 Knight Rises. Yeah, so May. I believe it was May. I like to think I remember my shootings. John Wayne was... The number one problem with Captain America. My audience comes to me when there's a big shooting waiting for my response. To see if you've got a joke?
Starting point is 00:52:39 If Malaysian planes went down every six or eight weeks, I would be the prime minister of the shooting that has to come out with the joke. Have an odd fan base is all I'm saying. I'm aware of that. I agree. It's very odd. It's what you get.
Starting point is 00:53:00 You're putting out an odd vibe. You know, you live in the middle of nowhere. What is Death Squad? Explain Death Squad to me. No one ever figured it out. It's funny. I was in London in February. I don't use the word anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's too scary. The theater, they go, some people showed up, and they said they were with the Death Squad. I was playing the Soho Theater. It's a really prestigious theater in London. And I got to play this theater, man. And they're really proper theater people. This is the origin of it. And they were like, death squad.
Starting point is 00:53:30 We're on the Opie and Anthony show. It was Eddie Bravo, Red Band, Tate, me. Tate. I showed up in the Eddie Bravo's black belt jiu-jitsu champion. And Tate's this big gorilla. Oh, not Jeff Tate. No. The comedian Jeff Tate's this big gorilla. Oh, not Jeff Tate. No, no, no. The comedian Jeff Tate.
Starting point is 00:53:47 After, quickly, after Kreischer and I did our picks for the Ultimate Tour, we got down and sat down with his children and wife for dinner and he mentioned Jeff Tate. I'm like, fuck Jeff Tate. Why didn't I pick Jeff Tate?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Jeff Tate. Yeah, he's a great comic out of Cincinnati. Yeah. Anyway. Oh, so you thought I was talking about that guy. No, no, no. Go ahead Oh, so you thought I was talking about that guy. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Go ahead. Kate Fletcher. He's a big, giant guy. All right. And Opie from Opie and Anthony goes, look, Joe Rogan showed up at the Death Squad. That's it. And then it was a joke. We were laughing.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Ha, ha, ha. And then somehow or another, people kept using it. And then, you know, many years later, Brian started these videos. Remember those videos? Yeah, the original Death Squad podcast. Yeah, we used to do these videos at shows. And then he started the Death Squad podcast network. The videos were all just us hanging around at shows.
Starting point is 00:54:35 He would do these little clips of stupid shit that was happening. It was actually, we did the Joe show, and there was all this extra footage that was just bullshit stuff. And so I just made quick one-minute videos. Every time I see a Death Squad t-shirt in my audience which is often i always say hey death squad point point them out on stage it's a weird name but i'm gonna stop doing that buy my t-shirts buy your t-shirts anyway it's a weird name that's why i stopped using it but i just stopped using it because it just sounds too crazy to use but feel free to keep using it i don't know i never knew the origins.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I assumed that was your network. No, it's Brian. Well, Brian started his podcast and he used that name. Do you have a network? The name sort of represented all of us. No, I just have this. What is a network? What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:55:18 I don't know. I have a network of guys that I'm friends with. I'm on all things comedy officially. I don't know what that means. I don't even know what it means. That means you're getting somebody else involved. I know I love Bill Bur means. I don't even know what it means. I know I love Bill Burr. Sure, I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:55:31 All that means is that you are joining up with a bunch of other people. In that sense, yes. But it's completely unofficial. My podcast is joined with Ari's podcast. It's joined with Joey Diaz's podcast. It's joined with Duncan's podcast. It's joined with all the Death Squad podcasts that Red Band produces. It's joined with Burt Diaz's podcast, is joined with Duncan's podcast, is joined with all the Death Squad podcasts that Red Band produces,
Starting point is 00:55:47 is joined with Burt Kreischer's podcast, is joined with Tom Segura and Christine, but it's all completely because we're friends. There's no agreement, but we all support each other. We all constantly try. But that's like all things comedies like that as well. There's no contracts.
Starting point is 00:56:01 No. No, nothing. Yeah, yeah. And they just wanted comedians to do their own thing. Yeah, but we're not like, there's no contracts. No. No, nothing. Yeah. And they just wanted to you know, comedians to, you know, do their own thing. Yeah, but we're not like there's no like official connection. All it does for me is make me more disciplined in that
Starting point is 00:56:13 okay, now I guess I told Bill Burr tacitly that I will do this on a weekly basis rather than go fuck it, no one cares. So yeah, I'll be better about putting it out like i feel like i have an obligation but you should hire a guy to just turn the mic on it's so fucking i do it's so easy just hire a guy all the time but i mean all the
Starting point is 00:56:36 time whoever he is all the time you should have a guy that just turns the mic on it's so easy for you and it'll be fun for you i. You should do them every fucking day. You should have a guy that turns the microphone on you every day. Just lets you go. Just turn the microphone on and lets you go. Have you ever tried to do it Bill Burr style? Have you ever done one by yourself? I did a bunch of them in the beginning
Starting point is 00:56:58 by myself. That's amazing that he does for an hour. I'm scared to even try it even though I know I don't have to put it out. I've done it in between too where a guy like you maybe need to take a leak, and you get up, and I'll just keep going, even for 10 minutes. But it becomes easy after a while. You fall into a path. I'm sure it would be, but initially, even if I'm doing a set
Starting point is 00:57:18 where I really have all new shit, too much new shit, about to do a DVD, whatever. I will get Brian, my manager, and make him... I just have to say this out loud. You have to stand there. But I can't say it out loud to myself. Okay, this segues into this. And then I'm going to do this. So you say it out loud in front of someone
Starting point is 00:57:39 other than the audience? If it's important. No, before a show. Like when I work the UK, and I have to abandon two-thirds of my set because it doesn't translate, and I've been writing a bunch of new shit that I don't really know,
Starting point is 00:57:53 and I have to say it out loud before I go on stage. Okay, this is the segue. This gets me into this. I'll make Brian listen to me say, not the whole set, but the bullet points and what the segue is, because I couldn't say it to myself, which I really set, but the bullet points and what the segue is, because I couldn't say it to myself, which I really am, but I need someone standing there to say it out
Starting point is 00:58:11 loud. And that's what a podcast by myself would feel like. No, yeah, I see where your point is, but it's more of a freestyle thing if you choose to just go over what's going on in the news every day. There's always something in the news that's fascinating the the beautiful thing about the time we're in if you wanted to do a solo podcast is all you have to do is go to your twitter feed you know i have a a guy works for me matt staggs he's my publicist for the podcast and every day he sends me um a news and afternoon news and evening news and a morning news it's all just the most fucked
Starting point is 00:58:44 up shit that's going on in the world, fascinating things. And any day, I've got 20 of them. Any day, there's 20 subjects. But you would just start talking about it. Right, but I think what you're talking about, like just when you look at someone when you speak, just things. I totally know what you're saying. It's like just what you do on stage. Talking to the air and not looking at someone.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And if I'm talking too much, one of you will roll your eyes at me and I'll shut up and let the other guy talk. Yeah, but you don't have to do that. It's a totally different dynamic if you're doing a solo podcast. Like nobody wants you to shut up. It's more about just not thinking about what you're saying, finding like a channel in the river of ideas and just riding it. And then just like free balling, you get like this comfortable free ball thing going on. And as long as you're not too conscious or aware of what you're doing,
Starting point is 00:59:30 you kind of catch this wave of creativity. It's really fun. You know, I've only done it a few times, but I've done it on stage a bunch of times. And there's this thing that Brian does, um, with,
Starting point is 00:59:40 um, uh, Jeremiah Watson. Thunder pussy. Yeah. That's the name though right yeah jeremiah watkins sorry i said watson jeremiah i i used to do it after shows but the better way to do it is to do the whole show this way we just yell out like the audience yells out subjects because you
Starting point is 00:59:58 don't you don't have any preparation whatsoever the audience yells out subjects and in yelling out subjects you just out of nowhere, maybe a subject you never even thought about, you'll just start talking about that subject and try to create comedy. And under the gun with a bunch of people watching, a lot of times shit just comes up. That show Set List is fun like that.
Starting point is 01:00:17 They give you the ideas. But it's different in that it's not a bunch of comics that come up with these wacky things. Orangutan pineapples. What? Orangutan pineapples. What? Orangutan pineapples. No, it's fucking the audience. It's the audience which comes up with the dumbest ideas that are the easiest to play off of. Sometimes.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah, like whenever you see, whenever there'd be an improv group. Suck and dick. Oh, you know what? Who said suck and dick? That was three nights ago. I just heard suck and dick from the audience. No, remember, always improv troops.
Starting point is 01:00:48 They go, okay, give us a word. And it was always the first word was always someone in the audience. Dildo. It was always like, now I found the level of the crowd. No, what genre of film? Everybody always says porn. Who says silent movies? They all say porn.
Starting point is 01:01:02 And if they do say silent movies, you know, every fucking 45th show, you abandon the porn reference. You go, silent movies. They all say porn. And if they do say silent movies, you know, every fucking 45th show, you abandon the porn reference. You go, silent movies. Okay, we'll see if we can come up with. Bitch, you got that shit memorized.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Here's a silent porn. You know, those guys that used to work the crowd, that was a big thing. Like, guys who worked the crowd, they would ask the crowd things.
Starting point is 01:01:19 People would go, ah, this guy's just coming up with this on the fly. Right. And then you watch him three nights in a row. You're like,
Starting point is 01:01:23 he's coming up with the same shit on the fly over and over again. He's seeing people that have touched themselves that aren't touching themselves. It's not really ad-libbing. Oh, when I said this, this guy did this. No, he didn't. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I'm watching from backstage. It's fake ad-libbing, you fuckhead. It's like the worst dirty trick of all time. My first tour for David Tribble, my first road tour doing these triple gigs i worked with a uh matt fuck i can't remember his goddamn name now uh he was a denver comic but he did crowd rap and it was kind of he knew what was coming but he'd go uh what do you do the last gig in price utah he's like what do you do uh like the whole tour he's getting i'm a pipe fitter i'm a meat
Starting point is 01:02:07 rapper and i'm like how are you getting this he was getting so fucking lucky with the easiest so we play price utah which is a mining town what do you do i work in the mine and he had what it had whatever four or five people he said what do you do i work in the mine i work in the mine and i'm like finally you got now you're on the fucking spot you're gonna have to come up with some shit because everyone he's like does anyone here not work in the mine and a girl raised her hand he said what do you do i work at the come and go i'm like oh you fucking get lucky every goddamn time. You were all in. And you caught that on the river. Oh, come and go.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Whoever came up with that fucking name. I thought that was a joke. The first time I ever saw that shit was in Colorado Springs. I stopped my car because I didn't believe it was real. I stopped my car and went, wait, that's the gas station? It's called Come and Go with a K? Like some sort of a wacky fucking whorehouse? Clancy?
Starting point is 01:03:08 We have comedy night with a K on Tuesday at the fucking, the Clam House with a K. The Come and Go is the number one fucking bit on the menu at the Clam House. It's when you just suck your dick. No one says a word. They push you in. She just sucks your dick and you go. That's the come and go at the Clam House with a K. Tuesday night's comedy night with a K.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Cocktail. Cocktail time. Do you remember those places that would have comedy night with a K? Hang on. I'm drinking Kamchatka vodka with a K. Is that good? Little plug. What is it?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Shitty vodka. Is that ours? Little plug. What is it? Shitty vodka. Is that ours or yours? Did you bring that? I brought that. What is it? I don't fucking come not bearing gifts. What is cam-chack-a-vodka? You know what?
Starting point is 01:03:59 I'd step all over my closer if I told you. Oh, I get you. They did this thing where they took vodka and they put it through one of those Brita water filters. my closer if I've told you. You know, I get you. You know, they did this thing where they took vodka and they put it through one of those Brita water filters. Tried it. Heard the trick. Tried it. We did straight vodka
Starting point is 01:04:15 taste tests. It didn't work for shit. Four or five times through a... It's all the same shit. Years ago in San Francisco, you remember the punchline they put you at the Commodore Hotel? Yeah, with the red room downstairs. I was in the easy
Starting point is 01:04:32 Sunday morning suite. I had like a... The staff used to party, man. I had like eight people back in my hotel room and everyone drank until the wee hours. Were you banging the whole staff? No, no, no. I remember waking up and it was like, I was completely hungover and I wanted to make some
Starting point is 01:04:49 coffee. And there was, I thought it was a cup full of water and I put it in the coffee machine and it was vodka and coffee. And I thought, hey, this might be the new Reese's peanut butter cup. The commercial guys walk in with the chocolate and he bumps into the guy with the, so I took a couple sips of it and it is definitely not the new Reese's peanut butter cup. The commercial guy's walking with the chocolate and he bumps into the guy with the... I took a couple sips of it and it is definitely not the new Reese's. You know where they fucked up with that commercial?
Starting point is 01:05:11 They fucked up with that Reese's commercial because if you take some chocolate and you dip it into peanut butter, it tastes way fucking better than Reese's. That's where they fucked up. Chocolate and peanut butter is really delicious. But when you eat Reese's, you go, I shouldn't have fucking ate that. Yeah, Reese's is pretty bland and tasteless.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah, Brian brought me some dark chocolate bars. And we had them in the fridge. And I don't eat chocolate, but there was nothing to eat. And I had bought some pineapple off the street, fresh pineapple with a square of frozen dark chocolate. Oh, my God, it was good. Dark chocolate is actually good for you. It has a very high OROC value. Is that why it feels so healthy right now?
Starting point is 01:05:47 Yeah. It's high in antioxidants. It's really good for you. I don't like chocolate, but I've had chocolate in Europe that was just orgasmic. Yeah. From the first bite, you're like,
Starting point is 01:05:56 God damn, this is the best thing ever. You ever go to Ghirardelli Square? Yeah, yeah, those are delicious. Ghirardelli is like, they used to have a real chocolate factory right there in San Francisco. And it was right down the street from the old Cobbs, the 150-seat Cobbs. Did you ever work at Cobbs?
Starting point is 01:06:08 No. I did all the time when I lived there. I love that room. One of the greatest all-time comedy clubs ever. It was a fucking tragedy when they moved out of that place to the big place. Tom Sawyer. Fucking great, great club. I mean, it was 150 seats and tight.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Today's Tom Sawyer. Small, small fucking room. Me, me, me. He's a serious comedy fan, and tight. Today's Tom Sawyer. There's a small, small fucking room. Me, me, me. He's a serious comedy fan, that dude. Tom Sawyer loves comedy, man. I was playing the Purple Onion, like a 60-seater, when you were playing Cobbs, the new big room. And we came down to see you.
Starting point is 01:06:38 The Purple Onion's now like an Italian restaurant. It was always upstairs, but i came down to see rogan i'm playing a 60 seater he's playing at 18 000 seater at cobs comedy club whatever it's a big fucking airplane hangar 450 then we hung out with you afterwards it's like 2 30 in the morning it's they threw everyone out it's a staff party and someone had blow then i'm going i i'm supposed to go do a live remote for a car show, like a good morning San Francisco TV live from a car show on Saturday morning. I go, I'm not going to fucking make it.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I just did lines. It's 2.30. So I got one of the local comics, Jason, fuck, don't let me forget your name. I go, listen, will you go to the show as me? That's right. Because the man's show is about to come out. Red Band has footage of this. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I remember this. I go, go down to the car show as me. I'm delineating my small amount of authority to a local guy that I know will do it. He's like 10 years younger than me, eight inches taller than me, but I still let him come by my room and get my overcoat and my fucking knit wool cap as my outfit. And I have footage. I have my own footage. Red Band has footage.
Starting point is 01:08:00 It made it to television. Yeah, he went down and the whole graphic on the chyron on the bottom man show host Doug Stanhope and he's just doing this straight interview as me you've got it
Starting point is 01:08:11 that's beautiful we're in a we're in a hot car with a hot comedian Doug Stanhope from Sketchfest San Francisco standing by to give us some insights
Starting point is 01:08:23 it's an interface between the internet. They did their fucking homework. Oh, yes. This is a new thing I'm very fascinated with. It's at MySpace.com. We're going to be talking all about it coming up on Cron 4. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:08:36 He looks nothing like me. That hurts my feelings. It hurts me how dumb that guy is. What is that? I wasn't good at Photoshop back then. Oh, this is... He's even dressed like you. I gave him my clothes.
Starting point is 01:09:08 This guy's the worst. I'm taking my career in my hands? Oh, my God. It doesn't go anywhere. For the listeners at home. That's hilarious. It doesn't need to. That guy is comedy. The guy in the tan jacket, he's comedy.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Well, I'm a walking shot. That's pretty ambitious for a morning show. Well, you know what? They like to mix it up, Tom. They like to get artistic. I did a morning show in San Francisco years ago, and I was hungover as fuck. And they go, would you mind? All you had to say was morning.
Starting point is 01:09:57 We know you were hungover as fuck. We have to cover this fencing exhibit or some event or something. So I had to go down to this fencing place. They filmed it. And like, you know, would you mind doing it? And comedian Tom Rhodes. And like, I've got the fencing outfit on and the mask. It's like, I didn't need to be there.
Starting point is 01:10:14 It could have been anybody. Anyone. I'm still drunk and now I have to fence somebody so I can get like an extra three people in the fucking show. Brendan Walsh did that for me. Andy threw a party at the bar that they filmed Animal House, the Otis Day and the Night scene. Mind if we dance with your dates? Remember that song?
Starting point is 01:10:38 So that bar still exists. And there's a campsite out in the way back of Oregon near there. So we had this party out at a campsite out in the way back of Oregon near there so we had this party out this campsite and we and I can't get cell phone reception and I'm playing Seattle so I had Brendan Walsh I couldn't do a phoner to promote my show so we went into town to that bar I called Walsh I go hey will you do this uh phoner in Seattle as me and it's a show I've been on before. So, yeah, sure, I'll do it. So he did it, and they're like, wow, you don't sound like yourself.
Starting point is 01:11:12 But they went through, and Brendan Walsh did a whole interview as me. Did he say he was sick or something? I have no idea what he said, but his bullshit was strong. That's fucking funny. Tom Rhodes, don't piss in the sink. That's not the bathroom. Yeah, that's not the bathroom. He's in there throwing up.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I've done that a lot. Have you? Bingo has caught me so many times trying to go into the closet in a hotel room to take a piss that you go, well, that's the amount of times you've woken up and found me. How many times have I pissed all over my own shit and never knew about it? I do it all the time. It's the humidity, I guess. I'm trying to remember who told me this story,
Starting point is 01:11:48 but somebody opened up their drawer and they pissed on their sock drawer. They went to their dresser and they pulled their sock drawer open and they just pissed in there. And I'm like, how the fuck did you think your sock drawer was the toilet? I'm sure you've done this.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I've peed in the corner of a lot of hotel rooms. That's what we're talking about. We saw you go through the wrong door thinking you thought you were going to the picture. Wait a minute. You peed in the corner of a lot of hotel rooms? Not a few of them. Just being plastered. I was saying how many times bingos caught me doing that versus how many times she didn't
Starting point is 01:12:20 wake up that I did that and didn't know I did that. That's those extra two shots. Your brain says it's over, Doug. Stand up and say the fuck it is. I was plastered in Ireland years ago and I went out the room door. I thought I was going to... I was just drunk and half awake. I just needed to pee. I was in the fucking hallway naked and I was banging
Starting point is 01:12:37 on the door. My girlfriend comes, what the fuck are you doing out there? Hennigan did that. Open the motherfucking door. We already have this on a there? Hennigan did that. Open the motherfucking door! We already have this on a podcast. Hennigan did that. Right there, my manager. And Henry Phillips both have stories walking out thinking they're going into the
Starting point is 01:12:54 bathroom, walking out naked and the door shuts behind them and they're both naked in the fucking hallway. And then you instantly become John Ritter. There's no way. That's not comedy. You know what? You get to go to the desk. How many people have ever got...
Starting point is 01:13:09 No, I don't have identification. If you do like a 20-year bid in a hotel, you work in a hotel for 20 years. Some dude's coming down naked. How many dudes come down naked during your entire career holding their cock and balls just going... Depends on who you're talking about. That's what happened to Brian.
Starting point is 01:13:26 He went into a locker, a housekeeping door that was open, grabbed a sheet or whatever, put it over his dick and walked down to the hotel and they just gave him a key. They didn't say ID or anything. One good thing about being old
Starting point is 01:13:42 is people don't question your intentions. Well, I also think that... I really think it's way more common... Get the naked old guy out of the lobby as quick as possible. It's way more common than we want to admit, especially if people are drinking booze. If people are drinking booze, I think they're pissing in the hallway. They're walking outside. They're getting...
Starting point is 01:13:56 People get so drunk. I mean, how many people have you been around that have gotten so drunk they don't know what the fuck they're doing? I mean, how many people? A lot. Six ditches. We're not unique. We're not unique. We're not unique. You know, you add us, connect us all to all the fucking people
Starting point is 01:14:10 out there in the world that are drinking. There's a lot of people walking down that hall with their dick in their hand going, shit, they hear that ka-chunk. That's the thing. You got to walk to the front desk with confidence. Yeah. You know, we just got to have one hand on your dick and the other hand, like, just casually explaining your story.
Starting point is 01:14:25 You know? Just, man. You know? Give me a towel. Take your shirt off. My only problem at that drunk would be over-explaining it. I'd be going, listen, I went to this bar. It was 7 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I hadn't eaten. Or letting him suck your dick just to make the story way over the top. I've never got the front desk to suck my dick, but I'm not Joe Rogan. But could you imagine if you went to the front desk and a man was like, look, I'll give you the key, but I want to suck your dick. You might let him at least put his dick in your mouth so you could tell people about it. You would think about it. You'd be like, this is the most ridiculous thing.
Starting point is 01:14:59 I'm not saying you, Tom Rhodes. I'm saying Doug Stanhope. I can see Doug Stanhope letting a man put his dick in his mouth. You'd let a guy blow you at the front desk. Not blow him. Just do it. I can see myself saying, all right,
Starting point is 01:15:09 you suck my dick as a pre-check. Cause I was going to call a hooker, but if I can't get it up, if I do this, will you give me a check? Do some diagnostics on my penis before I waste $350 on Eros guide. Do some diagnostics. Are you plugged in, sir?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Do you have the updated software? Yeah, you would do it just for the story. Just for a late check-out. And there was a time in my life, yeah. Between you and Tom Rhodes. Tom Rhodes wouldn't go there. I'm playing the UKIF. None of my material works.
Starting point is 01:15:44 But getting blown in a hotel hallway by a front desk man, that's universal. Do it. Well, there's the other thing. Like, the UK, they demand a new show every year, right? They want you to have, like, a show. Like, this is the end of the world show. Well, in the UK, they all do their shows kind of like plays, where they title it. It has a beginning and an end and a through line.
Starting point is 01:16:06 What's that about? Well, I'm doing the Edinburgh Festival this year. I've never done it. Are you going to succumb to that peer pressure? I've just always wanted to do it. But, I mean, are you going to just do an hour? I'm going to do what I do. No, I'm not going to talk about my dad.
Starting point is 01:16:20 You're not going to make it all make sense? No. Hold on. No, no sad. A lot of guys, they have a beginning, a middle, and an end. No, over there, I never did. But those guys do. They have a themed show, Jim Jeffries Head.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I can't remember the name. But yeah, it was about, he takes this subject, and it can vary. There's a through line and an arc, and then there's supposed to be a tidy ending. It's about a... I've done a bunch of shows. That's a through line and an arc, and then there's supposed to be a tidy ending. It's about a... I've done a bunch of shows... That's a fucking play. That's a fucking play, yeah. And plays suck.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yeah, I'm not into that. I'm not beginning and ending the same. What's wrong with going out and pounding people with jokes? I'm not ending the same way every night. I'm not beginning the same way every night. There's not going to be the same middle. That's ridiculous. You don't have to do it that way.
Starting point is 01:17:01 No, no, you don't. But they... Again, the same way we have three comics, any comedy club you go into, there's an opener, a feature, which I'm plugging this everywhere. Stop saying feature. It confuses the audience. Just say your next act and then your headliner. The middle act.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Yeah, just say the next act. But if you say I'm middling for Stan Hope, that's what you're really doing. You're middling. But when you announce it to an audience, a feature they think is a headliner. They don't know the difference. Well, not only that, it's gross because you know what you're doing. It's the same exact spot. You're doing the same exact thing.
Starting point is 01:17:35 You're trying to pretend it's more prestigious by calling it a feature. That's stupid. But a feature would sound like a headliner to a pedestrian audience who doesn't know the point. You were going to make it about England? It wasn't a thing that anybody ever used in the East Coast. That was a thing that you would only use in the road for whatever reason guys would use. The East Coast nobody ever used feature.
Starting point is 01:17:52 The only point was in the UK they tend to do that. They have a themed show. This is what it's called. They have opening acts? Edinburgh, no. No, you go out, you perform your show. At some point I go, these rules don't apply to me. Yeah, I'm going to bring fucking Henry Phillips over.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Right, but in clubs in England, usually a lot of times the best comedian is the host. Opens at 20, the whole show is his thing. I don't know why in America we put on open micers who have no experience and they don't know how to run a show. It's great. In England, a show's great from the start because you got – and usually he's getting paid the most and everyone else does 20-minute sets and this guy, it's like he's presenting.
Starting point is 01:18:36 He's David Letterman. We used to do that in Boston. But that was the thing in Boston. It would be like tonight is a Don Gavin show. And friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve Sweeney and friends. Kevin Knox and friends. Kenny Rogerson and friends.
Starting point is 01:18:50 They did that all the time. Well, we need to change the putting the fucking open mic out there first. Because every people know the first guy's going to suck. Why are you saying we can change? If anybody can fucking do whatever the fuck they want, it's you two. You can both do whatever the fuck you want.
Starting point is 01:19:04 We do. I'm talking about the United States. I'm talking about the club format. Zigzags in Springfield, Missouri. Right, right, right. But do you do it? I don't do it. I don't go out first and host the show. I'm talking about people who are still in comedy clubs where
Starting point is 01:19:21 people are going to see comedy and not the comics. Right. So they still think they have to put three up. I fucking plow through. I said this on fucking Bert Kreischer's podcast, so I don't want to repeat one conversation. But yes, if you don't have a great herd of comics, don't just put up a guy that's shitty because you think you need three. Right, but don't you think that the only way
Starting point is 01:19:48 we ever get really better at comedy, all of us, is everybody needs to be thrown to the wolves. There's got to be a trial by fire. I think if you see a guy who's got any talent at all... Well, that's what open mic nights are for. But sometimes the fucking owner will go up and do ten because you don't have a third
Starting point is 01:20:04 comic. You don't need three. You're totally right. But when I used to take guys on the road with me for the Diaz security spot, those guys like Duncan and Ari, both those guys, when I started taking them on the road with me, were essentially open micers. They really didn't work professionally very much. They weren't making money off of it. But I knew that they had potential. So I figured if they could go on stage and break the crowd in, like you go out to a cold crowd every night,
Starting point is 01:20:31 a packed crowd that paid money, and you're used to doing that with Mike Nights. It's fucking great. It's great for them. And it worked for me. It worked for a lot of people. Right, but those guys have personalities that people love from hearing them on your show.
Starting point is 01:20:43 That's different. No, no, no. This was way before that. Okay. This was like in the 2002s, 2003s, I was taking those guys to the road with me. When they were first starting out, there was no podcast back then. Okay. I didn't have any internet presence at all.
Starting point is 01:20:58 There was nothing. Every show was just you do radio, you go to town, do local radio. I had nothing. I had a message board that was like uh pretty popular but you know i mean what does that mean like like 10 000 members or something like that the whole country you can't like fill a crowd at a comedy club something like that so it was all people that knew me most likely from tv and duncan would go up first okay just and by doing that it's like strength training it's like running up hills.
Starting point is 01:21:25 You know, you just develop the ability to get out of the gate strong. And I watch them all, like, sort of, like, morph in that sense. So I see what you're saying. Like, it is the best way to do it to have a guy like the Tom Rhodes and Friends show. And you go out. So from the moment they go at the very least, Tom Rhodes is coming back. No, I like going on at the end with the big fat hour piece of cake.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Move the middle guy to the front and put the shitty guy in the middle. You're not going to have an opener at the Fringe Festival, are you? Oh no, just me for an hour. The problem is the middle guy. If the middle guy is a shitty guy, he's just going to get buried.
Starting point is 01:22:04 There's a big difference between getting buried by like, if you have Dia and then after Diaz, you have a guy who's just starting out. You did that with me. It's hard. We did it with you. But that was not planned. Yeah, that was fun too. Yeah. I mean, we did it for fun.
Starting point is 01:22:17 But Joey also knows you. He loves you. He throws you on stage. He gives you a great introduction. And everybody knows that joey's coming back but there is that's also part of of being a great host is not front loading the whole shit where you're yeah you don't open with your closer and then bring out the fucking we need guy you ramp it up and then you're going to come back and then you make it a little stronger and you know how to do the show. That's the technician.
Starting point is 01:22:45 That's the guy. That's your manager of the fucking show. But there's some guys that are really good. They're really funny, but they still need to be baby fucked. There's some guys that you just can't have someone too strong going before them. There's just some guys. They have a great style. They have a great, the famous Mitch Hedberg incidents that happened all across the country were all the wrong setup.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Some guy would go up, he was the wrong middle act, he would go up, he would crush, and then Hedberg couldn't follow him. No one could ever say that Hedberg wasn't brilliant. Hedberg's one of my all-time favorite comics. But Hedberg was a shitty MC. He was MCing the first time I met him. I was the middle act.
Starting point is 01:23:23 He'd go up with his jokes. He had no, hey, how's everyone doing tonight? Not whatsoever. What are you drinking there? Anyone have a birthday? He had no skill. Right. Junior Stopka, who I use now.
Starting point is 01:23:36 I'd make Brian Hennigan, my manager, or Chaley go up and just say anything if there was no opening act. Just so Junior didn't have to go up cold because he's got nothing other than his jokes. He doesn't have interpersonal skills as a friend. I don't know if you necessarily need those if your jokes are strong.
Starting point is 01:23:58 You don't necessarily need those. It's awkward at first, but after a few seconds... Well, we played a lot of fucked up venues where you kind of have to address awkward situations. Yeah, you need that guy. So even just my tour manager going up, going, hey, everyone doing great?
Starting point is 01:24:13 Okay, turn off your cell phone. Just announcements. And then bring him up. That makes sense. Just get people focused. That's a good move. That's a very good move. But yeah, there's some people that are not going to be good MCs. Well, there's some guys that never respond to anything that happens in the audience. They do
Starting point is 01:24:30 not deviate from the path. Hey, rap guys, MC has an actual fucking meaning in our world. Oh, go ahead. Wow, what are you trying to say? Are you starting a rap war? I'm trying to be the Donald Sterling comedy. Dude, don't start a rap war on my show. If you want to go on your fucking all things comedy and start a rap war, some East Coast, West Coast type shit, you go right ahead.
Starting point is 01:24:48 I'm not about that, Doug Stanhope. Death Squad versus ATC. What is ATC? Oh, shit. All Things Comedy. Jesus, get an acronym. Just wanted to make sure I was right. Comedy. comedy you remember when you were
Starting point is 01:25:07 starting out and you never had a fucking inkling of the idea of having a career having a career of comedy it's just like a
Starting point is 01:25:14 when you get those emails they're the saddest emails where like listen I've been thinking about doing comedy but like
Starting point is 01:25:22 like how do I get paid? If that's how you're getting into comedy, you're fucked. Yeah, that's the first, when like opening acts ask you, or open mic guys,
Starting point is 01:25:34 the same thing, you know, when can I expect to be paid from this? That's a pretty good one. But the guys before, they've ever stepped on a stage going, like, how am I going to get an agent out of this?
Starting point is 01:25:43 What? Yeah. You're supposed to want to get pussy out of this like that's why you get to open mic you want to impress the uh next funniest guy who's not funny that's your first goal yeah the first time you make the back of the room laugh it's the first time you feel like holy shit i might be a comedian i heard some comics laugh yeah like you remember the first time when you were an open mic or you heard a pro laugh at something you said and you're like holy shit i made a real comedian laugh i didn't just make the audience laugh i think when when we were
Starting point is 01:26:16 starting out though you know you started out in what 90 yeah it's 88 84 baby know, it was just like a dream of being able to get paid to do comedy. But the idea of a career or like... The first time I got paid, it was either $10 or $15. And then I called my brother. I go, I'm technically a professional now because I just got paid. And he goes, does that mean you get to take off the protective headgear? Well, I've always said. And he goes, does that mean you get to take off the protective headgear? Well, I've always said that the toughest thing about being a comedian is keeping a straight face when they pay you. Right.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Wow, you just gave me money for this? Yeah. No, I've come to grips with the fact that I have a scam for a living. And I've had no tough life. And there's no way I should get paid for this. had no tough life and there's no way I should get paid for this. But like when I did fraud telemarketing before this, you go, hey, if you don't fuck them over, someone else will. The first time I ever got paid, I worked for a guy named Warren McDonald.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Warren McDonald had a brother that was, he would do the- Ronald. No. He would run the open mic night. Good guy. I forget his fucking name. I want to say Bill. Anyway, he was the guy who ran the open mic night.
Starting point is 01:27:33 And I worked for him. We used to do these Norm LeFoe gigs in the middle of fucking nowhere. Did you ever do a Norm LeFoe gig? Did you ever do one of those? No, no. I never worked back east. You never worked back east at all? No, I started in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:27:47 But you lived in Worcester. you went back and did gigs there right? I went back once was it Stitches? yeah which year was that? that was open mic era so the first six months or year I ate shit
Starting point is 01:27:58 I sucked so 91 that was probably 90, 91 yeah I was still there I think I was still there until 91 or 92. Back visiting, I thought, oh, I'm doing open mic. Do you remember what street it was on?
Starting point is 01:28:12 Was it a Bigger Stitches or was it the really tiny place that was next to the Paradise? Commonwealth. Oh, okay. If that's right, that is the fucking drunkest, saturated, old, fossilized brain cell that just came out and told you it was street. Yeah, no, that's it.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Commonwealth Ave. I want it with the Paradise. The Paradise, Boston. I was on Bill Burr's. Well, you're Massachusetts. Yeah. I mentioned Zarex. Do you remember Zarex?
Starting point is 01:28:40 Zarex? It was a syrup that you'd pour into water as a kid, like Tang, but it was a syrup with a zebra on the front. He's like, yeah, yeah. Hey, Zarek's, was there a zebra? And then just like that fucking Commonwealth brain cell, he sang the theme song from Zarek's like he was speaking in tongues. He didn't know what I meant at first. And he goes, wait, a zebra?
Starting point is 01:29:06 And then he burst into song and had the theme song, which I didn't even know. You went to the real Stitches if you went to Commonwealth Ave. You went to the original Stitches, which was next to the Paradise. The Paradise was a rock club, like this really small rock club. You're trying to ingrandize a rape scene for me. I died so miserably. But you got raped in a really historical place. You did.
Starting point is 01:29:31 No, I died. It was the most miserable fucking experience of my early comedy career. You took it right in your dick hole at a really important place. They fucking hated me. That's Zarex. It's back in production now. They started making Zarex again. What is Zarex? It's like I production now. They started making Zarex again. What is Zarex?
Starting point is 01:29:45 It's like I said, it's stuff you put in your drink. It's kind of like that stuff where you put in one little drop into water and it turns it into fruit punch. They looked it up. Like Tang. They looked it up. Sort of a Tang ripoff. Yeah. That spot was amazing, that Little Stitches.
Starting point is 01:30:00 That Little Stitches was the little dark room that was next to Zarex. It was amazing unless you were a young mullet-haired kid and your brother came to see you for the first time and you ate shit in front of everyone. I did my first set ever there. How'd you do? That wasn't that good. I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Your first set wasn't good? Pretty fucking terrible. We were talking about this. I don't know if it was Burr or Kreischer, but that would be a great set list show, kind of themed show, is break out your first notebooks. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:30:28 That'd be great. I wish I had them. I wish I still had them. I would love to do that. It was embarrassing. I have them. I got mine, too. You do, really?
Starting point is 01:30:35 Yeah. My first one, I wrote out my name. I wrote out, hi, my name is Doug Stanhope. I wrote every fucking word out. I have it. Did you ever practice on a tape recorder before you actually did comedy? I don't remember doing that. My dad had one of those tape recorder things.
Starting point is 01:30:52 I would try and record funny things. You had to push down with two fingers. Yeah, yeah. No, like the cassette thing. Yeah, record and play at the same time. Where office guys did dictation or whatever to those things. Yep, I had the exact same thing. I tried to make silly little radio shows.
Starting point is 01:31:07 I didn't try to do that, but I tried to do stand-up in it. I would try to do my own version of stand-up as if I was talking to a crowd. And then I would play it to a couple of my friends. You think this is funny? None of them thought it was funny. They all had the same look, like, oh, my God, what are you doing? Like if you're a white guy and wants to try boxing, they're like, oh yeah, man. You're going to fucking kick everybody's ass, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:28 There was this sense of sadness when they listened to your comedy. You're never going to make it. It's terrible. But open mic when you're first starting, you're throwing anything against the wall that would work, you know? I always break it down into two
Starting point is 01:31:44 very distinct stages in the beginning of your comedy. In the first stage, you do anything to try to get a laugh. Shit you don't think is funny, it's just tools. They're just hammers and screwdrivers and you're just hoping to get something that works. Sea monkeys was a phrase I built.
Starting point is 01:32:00 That's a funny thing and I built anything around it where I turned it into a sexually transmitted disease eventually. But I just wanted to say sea monkeys because I thought that was funny. It's a funny word. Yeah, there was a bunch of those. I used to say spatula. I used a prop.
Starting point is 01:32:15 I used a prop on my first open mic, and I didn't realize it was racist. It was racist? What was it, a black man? I had like drawn. With a cross burning on his mouth. It was a monkey with a What was it a black I had like drawn With a cross burning On its mouth I made It was a monkey
Starting point is 01:32:27 With a fucking Jockey outfit on In a basketball uniform His hat on backwards With a boom box To his shoulder No idea I had no idea
Starting point is 01:32:37 He was picking cotton He was a He had chains It was a punching nun Picking cotton And blackface Chained to a plantation stair It was open punching nun picking cotton in blackface. It's chained to a plantation stair.
Starting point is 01:32:47 It was open mic nature. Sorry. He was robbing a white man. I had no idea. Hey, Bamamba. Says Tom Rhodes on his first open mic. He was talking like Fat Albert's friend with a hat over his face. Ob-a-dab-a. I had no idea it was racist.
Starting point is 01:33:07 By the way, I'm white. I'm not racist at all. I'm super respectful of black people. Sorry. Don't worry. I'm sorry. What were you saying? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Something wasn't racist? I made it in art class. I started when I was 17. I made one of those high school... This is a black-faced Mr. Bill. With a giant dick. Where are all the white women at? All the white women were climbing on it while he was eating a piece of chicken.
Starting point is 01:33:40 There's a bunch of white people. Where are all the white women at? All the white women were climbing on it while he was eating a piece of chicken. There's no reason it should have taken this long to get to this quick story. I'm fucking crying. I'm fucking crying over here. Oh, no. They had a welfare check sitting out of his back pocket, and I have no idea why anybody would think that shit was racist.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Oh, my God. It bell bottoms on an Afro. It's fucking... Watermelon's delicious. I don't know what the problem is. It's all right. Why is everybody so uppity? He had big lips around his penis.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Is your re-throat... Yep. Hop. Hip-a-do-do-hip-a-do. Sorry. All right. He had big lips around his penis. His urethra. Yep. Hop. Hip-a-dee-dee-hip-a-dee-hip-a-dope. Sorry. All right. Sorry. I had to make it one.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I had to make it unfunny so you could get through your story. Sorry. Nothing. It's a black guy or something. Joe, just try a cigarette. One cigarette while I get through the story. I did it with you. Come on.
Starting point is 01:34:43 I want to hear the story. No, fuck it. I ain't even telling you that. No, I want to hear the goddamn story. It was like a secret that I never would have fucking told anybody. And you guys clowned on it. So fuck that. I ain't telling you. You're never going to tell anybody except on the internet.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Yeah. Please. That's ridiculous. You guys go off with it. Please. Oh, my God. Watermelon and your fucking... What was your racist thing?
Starting point is 01:35:02 I'll tell you my first racist thing. I was a kid. I didn't, you know, whatever. I didn't know any better. I was, you know, you're trying to be funny. And I don't know. You know, I wasn't. I made an art class, one of those street signs that's a school crossing.
Starting point is 01:35:17 And, like, I made an art class, like, you know, with, like, black markers. And I made it. And, like, a yellow poster board. I cut it the size, the shape of the fucking school crossings. And I said, uh, come on. When was the last time you saw two ball-headed black kids walk into school? Carrying books. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:35:36 It was, I was 17. I was an idiot. But I mean, why is it? Wait, wait a minute. So it was. Just when did you, when would you ever see two bald-headed black kids? But it was a sign. The sign had...
Starting point is 01:35:46 No, it's the regular street sign. Okay. Yeah, what it... You know, a school crossing sign. Right. I recreated that exact thing. Oh, I see. So the silhouette.
Starting point is 01:35:53 In art class. You're saying it's black kids. It was stupid. I was 17. You know what's way more racist is the fucking signs. I'm so glad I opened up. I didn't get it. The signs you get when you're in fucking San Diego.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Oh, those... Yeah, the family running across the highway. It's the dad and the mom and the little girl. They're not married, by the way. It's not even the dad. It's the mom. Right, but it's funny that the little kid isn't even running. The kid is, like, flying.
Starting point is 01:36:16 They're running, and the mom's holding the kid's hand. Yeah, yeah. And the kid is, like, flying because they're running so fast. Well, you're supposed to slow down because you think that they might be. Watch out for people seeking a better life. Yeah. Be careful. They're dangerous.
Starting point is 01:36:29 People seeking a better life. That's a fucking weird thing, isn't it? I mean, you're right next to it. You're about as close as humanly possible. Yeah. That's the only place I've ever seen in the world. Watch out for people running across the highway. You're a couple miles away.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Where's Bingo? What's the name of the sign everyone has, like every third house, like a political sign where I live on the border? Humanitarian aid is never a crime. Because, yeah,
Starting point is 01:36:55 people that are fucking decent at the border where I live and they'll leave water out for people that have trekked across the desert and leave jugs of water. No, that's very cool. And yeah, you can get arrested for that.
Starting point is 01:37:08 What? Somehow. You can get arrested for leaving water? I don't know how it works. What? Or aiding them without turning them in or however it works. They pass the crystal meth houses
Starting point is 01:37:21 to kick in the house. The door of the house that gave water to somebody. They don't do that where I live. I think if you made it that far. That northern Mexico desert is so fucking just desolate and massive. If you made it that far to the border, you should get like a prize. It shouldn't be a contest, man. It should be like a car waiting for you.
Starting point is 01:37:38 The idea is ridiculous. The idea that we're going to keep these people from coming over where there's jobs just because they were fucking shit out of luck here's what other people tell me well you guys here's how you like attack the militia man guy saying because they're all you know family people and jesus and go hey if your kids were fucking shitty would you not try to make their life better by doing that like would as a as a father anytime you go after their kids and put it on their kids, they have to, wait. Would you not try to make your child's life better
Starting point is 01:38:12 by getting to a better place? If we really believe in humans, this is the concept of human beings, we really believe that humans are just a born bundle of potential. If you're not a total, complete racist, where you think that your race is superior or you're superior because of whatever shape you are or color you are,
Starting point is 01:38:32 if you're not that, then the idea of borders and keeping people that are poor out of places where they don't have to be poor anymore because there's jobs, it's ridiculous. It's funny how people talk about these immigrants flooding over the border. I've been down to visit you a couple times. And I was driving to El Paso from your place once, and there's that one small road that goes from Bisbee straight to El Paso,
Starting point is 01:38:56 and it's right along the border. And there's, like, Army troops out there with camouflage. There's no people. There's no towns. And then they got ATV vehicles, ATC vehicles, and then the Border Patrol guys and then no towns and then you got they got atv vehicles atc vehicles and then they the uh the border patrol guys this guy pulled me over i'm a white guy driving a car and he goes uh i saw you were driving away from california what the i've come to visit you with florida plates what the fuck the guy it's completely ridiculous yeah yeah first of
Starting point is 01:39:20 all i mean they got that drug related which has nothing to do with immigration. But you're what you were throwing out. Still, almost every argument boils down to overpopulation. OK, well, these people, well, everyone will continue to fuck until they have some. You know, that's that's a way to look at it. But the real issue isn't right now that we don't have enough resources to deal with the people that are at hand. The real issue is there's people that have no access to resources. There's people that have their resources monopolized by gigantic corporations in the military-industrial complex.
Starting point is 01:40:02 And there's people that live in poverty where the places where they live are some of the richest places in the fucking world. It's more of a greed issue and a money issue and a domination issue than it even is a resource issue. If you just took the amount of oil that's coming out of places where the people are incredibly poor and you just looked at that on a graph and said, how the fuck is this possible? How is it possible that the place where these people were just born is just incredibly rich in natural resources, but a company that doesn't have anything to do with this area
Starting point is 01:40:24 has somehow or another acquired the rights to suck it out of the ground, and the people that work in the factories are incredibly poor. How is that possible? That's nothing but cruelty. It's nothing but people with a shit ton of money dominating people who don't have that opportunity.
Starting point is 01:40:38 It's nothing but a lack of humanity. It's not about how many babies you have. It's not about resources. It's about cunts. Yes, it is about resources because there's more people all the time, and that's why we need more resources. It is, but it's about what do they do with that money. If they'd use that money to enrich these people,
Starting point is 01:40:54 it's been proven that when you get people into an industrialized setting, you get people into a nice city, they have plumbing, their amount of children they have drops. That's one of the number one concerns about all the people that like believe in overpopulation. There's another school of thought amongst like real scholars. I'd say that overpopulation exists in rural areas, third world countries, a lot of different places, India, China, what have you. But when places become stabilized and people start having careers and lives the number of children they have actually drops it drops to like every couple will have like one and a half kids or something
Starting point is 01:41:30 like that you know per statistic so it's it's not that these people are everyone's fucking too much but the numbers of people keep going up so that's not good but you know what right now it's totally sustainable there's your proven statistics and then there's actual math of how many people keep appearing it is but it's not because look humans the i'm with you i'm with you and i agree with you i agree with you to a certain if we want to go outside and count them to win a bet no there's plenty of people there's more people than ever but there's always more there is always more but right now it's totally sustainable. And what I'm saying is that in industrial situations, the numbers actually drop. So just because there's a lot of people today and there's 7 billion people and next year there might be 7.1.
Starting point is 01:42:13 So poverty is thriving. It is currently, but it doesn't mean that it has to stay that way. Once industrialization, this is just science when it comes to population control. When you industrialize an area, the people have less children. Because when the people start getting careers, they have less children. So even though you might have an area that has a lot of people right now, if that area improves in the quality of their infrastructure, their economy, all these different variables. Obviously, I don't have a dog in this fight.
Starting point is 01:42:44 But once they start doing that, the number of babies they have actually drops. So it's a matter of, in my opinion, it's definitely an... I moved into West Hollywood in 1995 in a rent-controlled place. Brian still lives there. Parking is way fucking harder. This is not an impoverished place in West Hollywood. There's more fucking people. Well, there's more people here, but there's less people in Cleveland. There's less people in
Starting point is 01:43:10 Detroit. Detroit is fucking half empty now. Detroit, you can buy a house for 500 bucks. I mean, California's a great spot. It never rains. It's fucking 80 degrees in February. Everybody moves here because they want to be famous like Kim Kardashian. You got me there just because I'm drinking. Look, it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:43:26 There's definitely more people. Like, statistically, there's way more people. And it is a problem. But it's not the number one problem. The number one problem is the country, the world, all the economies, all the fucking natural resources are controlled by cunts, by evil cunts that have shit tons of money and weapons. That's the number one problem.
Starting point is 01:43:44 This idea that our problem is overpopulation. evil cunts that have shit tons of money and weapons. That's the number one problem. This idea that our problem is overpopulation. If we have less people, we're going to have fucking smooth sailing. That's not real because the people that I know are all people. The people that I love are all people. They started out being fucking babies and then they became awesome. I mean, that's all the people that I know had to start out somewhere as people. If we want to believe that the human race can carry on and more Tom Rhodes and Doug Stanhelms and more interesting people can exist that way, someone's got to make a fucking person. It doesn't mean that we
Starting point is 01:44:12 should all, and it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with not doing it. There ain't anything wrong with doing it. But that's not our number one fucking problem. Our number one problem is cunts. That a gigantic chunk of the population is controlled by cunts and where do cunts come from cunts come from babies so do so do comedians strippers yeah but you know what you're talking about like all your favorite movie stars they all came from a vagina but you know you're talking about lifting up societies like nigeria look how poor these people are you think these shell executive oil people would get tired of getting kidnapped
Starting point is 01:44:47 and their refineries getting taken hostage. They have enough security to prevent most of it. If you've got enough money, you plan ahead. So they don't have to lift up the society. If you've got enough money, you plan ahead. You can keep people at bay. It's fucking Game of Thrones type shit. It's pretty simple. It's just more sophisticated.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Here he goes, throwing his intellect at her. You can keep up with game of thrones i got through half of the premiere episode i go uh this is too fucking convoluted for me but yeah it's complicated look i i i i see both points i see your point i see i see look life is is, no matter what, it's pointless. I mean, you live and you die. For you, for any individual, it's a temporary ride. But I think that to concentrate entirely on the futility of it all. Why do you got to drop this on me now? Have you seen Pervert's Guide to Ideology? No.
Starting point is 01:45:41 That guy is Zizek. He's like Slovenia's premier philosopher. He's big in England. He's got this great movie. It's a documentary. It's called The Pervert's Guide to Ideology. And he breaks down with movies and how we're just mass-fed these different ideologies. And he starts
Starting point is 01:45:58 with that movie They Live from 88 where the guy finds the sunglasses and he puts it on. Roddy Piper, bitch. Yeah, and he sees the aliens. He was on the podcast last night I did with him. He's great. Roddy came around? Yeah, he came around. He does comedy shows with Steve Simone.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Yeah, he came up on stage. We were doing a podcast and this guy just starts walking towards us. And he starts walking on stage and I was like three seconds. I was about to go, hey, sir, you can't just. But then right when I did it, Tony Henscliff goes, Roddy, Roddy Piper, everyone. I'm like, what the fuck? So you didn't know he was coming up there? Well, that's a cool flick.
Starting point is 01:46:27 We had no idea. He just walked on stage in the middle of our podcast, killed Tony. That's hilarious. Have you ever seen the video he did with Ari when he came on stage with him and body slammed him? I was there. That was weird.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Ari Shafir got body slammed by Roddy, Roddy Piper. It was on TMZ. Yeah, that was awesome. That was awesome. That was a naughty show, right? Wasn't it? Yeah. Sam Tripoli.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Did I miss the end of Zizek? I try to have my prostate timed with Tom Rhodes so I can start pissing when he talks about Zizek and get back right at the end of the beat. He said it all. It was a Zizek soliloquy. That's tough to say. Here's our, that's Dana DeArmond announcing it. And here's it, Roddy Piper. Fucking Dana DeArmond?
Starting point is 01:47:11 Yeah. I remember her from the MySpace days, and it was Dana DeArmond photography. So I thought the thumbnail was some dude named Dana that put hot chicks up so you'd follow him. And it wasn't until recently where I found out and I saw she follows you when they're like, oh, that's really a hot chick. I thought it was a dude using a hot chick he took a picture of to try to get me to follow him. No, she's a very nice person and happens to be a hardcore porn star, but she's a very
Starting point is 01:47:43 nice person. This is very cool. We did a podcast. We did a couple podcasts with her at the Ice House, but we did one with her at Brian's place. Tabitha Stevens seems really cool on Twitter. She's cool. To the point where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:47:56 you know, I don't want you to do this. I follow you. You don't have to send me a dirty picture every day. I think she enjoys it, though. She's really cool, but she enjoys it. But you don't have to do that to me, you want to say. I understand. I understand, though. She's really cool, but she enjoys it. You don't have to do that to me, you want to say. I understand, but you've got to let a hoe be a hoe. It's like from a Willie D song.
Starting point is 01:48:11 It's from the Ghetto Boys. I think when they decoded the hieroglyphics on the pyramid, that's what it said. It says that. It's cryptic. You've got to use the Rosetta Stone to get it correctly. Yeah. What the fuck are you watching?
Starting point is 01:48:26 That's Rowdy Roddy Piper banging Ari Shaffir's head off the piano. And now he's some sort of sex thing going on. You know he's passed at the Comedy Store? Rowdy Roddy is? Yeah. Well, that's where the Comedy Store is today. Oh, my God. He beat him with a belt.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Oh, yeah. That's when Ari's like, okay, I got to get out of here. Wow, he really beat him. But, hey, they used to really, for real, beat the fuck out of each other in those old days of wrestling. Those guys used to cut each other. In the Ari Shafir, Rowdy Roddy Piper wars? No, the real Rowdy Roddy Piper wrestling matches, Doug. That's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:48:58 That they used to beat the fuck out of each other. I was out pissed. You didn't even pay attention. We're just showing the video of Rowdy Roddy Piper Beating Ari Shafir with a belt Am I the guy off the mark right now? Yeah, you're a little off the mark Rowdy Roddy Piper was just beating Ari With a belt in this video
Starting point is 01:49:11 And we were saying that they That's for him That's what the fuck they did They used to hit each other with chairs and shit They really hit each other He's like, you can get hit with a chair And you can be alright And that's what your job entails
Starting point is 01:49:21 Like, I know you don't want to clean toilets But somebody's got to do it That's their job I always assumed the wrestler Was kind of authentic The movie Yeah, that's what your job entails. Like, I know you don't want to clean toilets, but somebody's got to do it. That's their job. I always assumed the wrestler was kind of authentic. The movie. Yeah, it's fairly authentic. Yeah, it's fairly authentic. I'm going to do this to you.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Are you cool with that? Yeah. All right. There was a great Louis Theroux documentary where he went around to all these low-level pro wrestlers. Every time he's on our level, Tom, we go, hey, we can talk wrestling. That's dumb.
Starting point is 01:49:44 He goes, well, Louis Thoreau once said, what? Yeah, you fucking sidestepped my zizic on Golden Pond. Now we're on Thoreau, Louis Thoreau. He goes to these local North Carolina wrestling matches where these amateur guys, they're not making any money, and they're cutting themselves with razor blades and making themselves bleed. I mean, it's fucking crazy. One guy puts barbed wire
Starting point is 01:50:05 all over himself and they charge into each other with barbed wire, beat each other with barbed wire, sticks and shit. Like, for real, they're cut. They're like, they're all bleeding
Starting point is 01:50:13 after thinking they're laughing about it. The original Jackass. Well, they really used to hurt each other. When they had theater with Jackass. Those guys, there was a big coke scene and they used to hang around
Starting point is 01:50:23 a lot of comedians in the 80s. I remember hanging out with Jake the Snake. Really? And he had the largest bag of cocaine I've ever seen in my life. Well, those guys are all medicated. You saw that. They're all constantly hurt. You saw that documentary, Beyond the Mat?
Starting point is 01:50:35 No. What is that? It's about wrestlers. It was fantastic. About pro wrestlers? Yeah. They would, like five different guys. They had the new guys starting out, and then intermediaries, and then Jake the Snake Roberts, who's now playing in Armory in Kearney, Nebraska.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Still. Fucking, yeah. And they're going to meet him up with his daughter that he never met, that he abandoned. What are you playing, Brian? He couldn't break away from the merch table, so he never met her that he abandoned, but he used to... What are you playing, Brian? He couldn't break away from the merch table, so he never met her. What is this? No, he starts smoking crack and they get him on a camera shot
Starting point is 01:51:11 through his motel blinds. Smoking crack. I'm going to get sad. Please, I'll get sad. Stop playing this fucking nonsense. Joe gets sad a lot. I get sad when I watch people that are wrestlers. That was from that.
Starting point is 01:51:26 That was the guy that died. I watched the documentary, but fuck. It was wicked good. It made me want to do a documentary about all the 80s comedians who thought they had it made because all of a sudden, it's like the oil boom now in North Dakota
Starting point is 01:51:41 where everyone's making $5,000 a week with book jokes. Two Jews walking to a bar. Thank you, $5,000, Kansas City. And where they became? Vic Dunlop. Fucking lost a leg and then he's dead. But for a minute
Starting point is 01:51:58 he was fucking huge. Not even huge, he was just rich. He died, didn't he? All you had to do was get an evening of the improv. If you had a Caroline's Comedy Hour and an evening with the improv, you were good. And if you had an MTV half hour comedy hour and a Caroline's Comedy Hour and an evening with the improv, holy shit. You were in one of those USA, you remember those USA comedy guides?
Starting point is 01:52:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before the internet, they'd have this industry guide. It was the who's who of comedy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember Skippy? Showtime put that out or something. Skippy had a two-page spread. Skippy from the Facts of Life.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Oh, Mark Price. Is that what it's from? Yeah. The show? Facts of Life? Yeah, Mark's. What was the fucking show? Yeah, Mark Price, Skippy.
Starting point is 01:52:39 What was the show? Facts of Life. Family Ties. Family Ties. Justine Bateman once emailed me, and I was starstruck. She goes, I think you're brilliant. I go, are you the Justine Bateman that I know from TV? And this is not a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Did you jerk off while you were? No, it was like six years ago. I probably told this story on the internet. Who didn't love Mallory? She was incredible. That's pretty interesting. So she decided that she was going to reach out to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Did you tell all your friends? This story takes about three minutes. Do you have the time for it? She came to a show. Garrett Morris opened a comedy club. The Downtown Comedy Club. Garrett Morris from Center. Yeah. It was in a sushi place in a hotel.
Starting point is 01:53:34 So we played it and Justine Bateman showed up after that email and I'm all excited. I'm doing, uh, two shows. Well, anyway, whatever it is, we get done the show.
Starting point is 01:53:42 She's been there. Lynn Shawcroft, you know, Hedberg's wife. And bingo. They've been drinking a lot. So I go to the downstairs bar after the show to meet them and some producer friend, Hollywood Types. And I'm all like, hey, I'm nervous. Because I'm fucking starstruck by Justine Bateman. At way too late of an age to be starstruck by Justine Bateman.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Good time to take a piss, Tom Rhodes. How dare you, Tom Rhodes, you selfish son of a bitch. So they're fucked up. Bingo and Shawcroft are so fucked up and they're spilling the tables and everyone's trying to be polite and ignore the fucking elephants in the room.
Starting point is 01:54:22 They have pizza on one of those trays that's being heated from the bottom and Shawcro elephants in the room. They have pizza on one of those trays that's being heated from the bottom. And Shawcroft knocks the pizza. Shawcroft, her excuse is that she's on a, what's the diet where you can't have carbs? Oh, Atkins. Atkins. She's doing the Atkins. So she's drinking vodka instead of drinking beer.
Starting point is 01:54:41 But she's drinking vodka at the same rate you would drink beer. So she's so fucked up so quickly and she's knocking shit over it. You don't know what love is. You know. And I'm like, uh, and I'm distancing myself from my own girlfriend and my friend. I don't, I don't. Oh God. At one point she knocks their pizza on the ground and gets down on all fours going, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:55:06 I'll eat it. And she's eating pizza off of Justine Bateman's feet. And I'm just trying to make a smiley face. And Justine was fucking great. And she knew how to bust balls. And she's making fun with it and being kind of cruel like a comic would. Skip to the next morning. kind of cruel like a comic would, skip to the next morning.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Shawcroft wakes up from her blackout going, Oh, my God, did I make an asshole out of myself in front of that Justine Bateman? And I go, you were fucking crawling on all fours like a pig eating pizza off her feet. And without any irony or sarcasm shawcroft goes oh my god i ate pizza i'm not supposed to have carbs dude why are you not telling that on stage you need because it's not my story it's it's abandoned i probably told it a million times on a bunch of podcasts. We'll delete it off the internet, and please tell it on stage. That's a great goddamn story. She is so fucking funny. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:56:11 I'm not supposed to eat carbs? So she's gluten-free? Is that what it is? Yeah, again, this is like six years ago. I don't know. That's fucking hilarious. Well, good on Justine Bateman. Good for her.
Starting point is 01:56:24 What show was she on? Family Ties. Family Ties. Michael J. Fox? good on Justine Bateman. Good for her. What show is she on? Family Ties. Family Ties. That was with Michael J. Fox? Yep. Takes place in Ohio. He's back, bitches. I don't know if you know.
Starting point is 01:56:32 What? Tom Segura's got a fucking 20-minute bit about the Family Ties, the new Michael J. Fox show. God, it's horrible. It's brutal. It's a brutal bit. It's so mean. It's so fucking mean. You're fucking ragging on the guy with Parkinson's.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Again, I've done four podcasts in 24 hours, basically, or 36. My point is I hate to repeat myself, but Bert Kreischer is talking about Tom Segura has been on my list of shit to do to watch. Because I've heard about him so much from you, your podcast and tweets and stuff. And Kreischer said, fuck, yeah, you've got to see him. I still have not pulled up YouTube or anything of it. He's really good, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:16 He's really good. I met him when I did the Maxim tour with Charlie Murphy, me and Hefron and Charlie Murphy. You know Segura? Oh, he's hilarious. I love him. He's really good. Every place we went, they had a new guy open for us,
Starting point is 01:57:29 like a local guy or a guy that won a local contest, and he went up in Phoenix. We did the Hollywood Theater, the same theater where Louis did his last special, and Segura went up, and I was like, holy shit, this guy's good. He was like, out of all the guys, we had 22 shows, so 22 different guys opened for us, but he was the only one that really stood out. He's a beast. guy's good. He was like, out of all the guys, we had 22 shows. So 22 different guys opened for us. But he was the only one that really stood out. He's a beast.
Starting point is 01:57:49 He's legit. His podcast is fun, too. Yeah, he's just a fun guy. He's just a good guy. He's like Kreischer, you know. His wife is fucking hilarious, too. You ever seen Christina Pazitsky? No.
Starting point is 01:57:59 I don't know anyone. I see no one ever. She went up. Sam Tripoli had this naughty show. And he had all these people on the show. I mean, it's all chaos. It's like, there's Tom. It's like naked people and people getting beaten by belts and all this chaos.
Starting point is 01:58:16 And this woman was beating this guy with a belt, and I was thinking, oh, my God, I can't believe she's got to follow this. Like, how is she going to fucking follow this? And it was the first night I met her. She's like real friendly. And I was like, poor Tom's wife. Poor Tom's wife going to go up and try to follow a guy getting beaten by a belt. She goes up and slays. And I was like, holy shit, she's really good.
Starting point is 01:58:36 She's really funny. It's like, finally, a husband and wife team where they're both really funny. Which usually, like, the wife's really funny, but the husband's some bitch that just follows her around and tells her how awesome she is. Or writes the jokes, but can't do it himself. It's one or the other. It's either the husband's awesome, or the wife's awesome. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:58:56 That's why their podcast is fun. What is she doing with a fucking crocodile? That was her when she was on Road Rules. She was on Road Rules? That's hilarious. But she's a really good comic. Bottom line. She's a really good comic.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Funny. Just a legit, legit comedian. Has nothing to do with gender or the fact that she's married to a legit comedian. It's a rare instance where two legit comedians are hooked up together. Yeah, I can't. Can't come up with another one. No. I can't come up.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Well, I love it, though. Because I love that you can never say up with another one. No. I can't come up... Well, I love it, though, because I love that... You can never say it doesn't work. You know? People always say, oh, I don't ever date a comic. That fucking never works. You can't say that.
Starting point is 01:59:32 It doesn't... Most of the time, it doesn't work. But it doesn't mean it can't work. It can totally work. Like, Tom and Christina, it actually works. They're both really funny. It's a perfect example of...
Starting point is 01:59:42 Come on. In history, there had to be at least an instance of where two funny people that were already legitimately... Were George Barnes and Gracie Allen, were they married? Captain and Tennille. No? Jim Carrey married Jenny McCarthy,
Starting point is 01:59:55 who is hot enough for you to think was funny. Bo and Luke Duke. Tim Conway. There's none. There's fucking Tom and Christina. That's it. Never existed. That's why we need gay marriage. That's what I'm talking about. If two really funny guys... The only way you can find two funny women in a room.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Well, what about if Richard Pryor and George Carlin married each other? The greatest gay couple, the greatest married couple of all time. Yeah. Gay marriage. If they were both gay and they went into comedy I bagged gay marriage but you're talking interracial and I'm out my favorite my favorite thing you've ever done outside of your comedy said fucking Bisbee Town Hall thing that you
Starting point is 02:00:38 did where you went up there and oh you didn't see the one where I ate shit the next time there's another one? How did you eat shit? I went up. This is, it was the most brutal. Every comic has had the dream where you go on stage and you can't talk and you don't know what you're saying. And the audience is, look, that happened to me in real life. After I did the one, I just, I spouted off at one city hall about, you know, why are you having prayer at a city council? And that was quick. And the next time I went when they were actually voting on the referendum for civil unions.
Starting point is 02:01:17 And I sat in the back listening to all these Christians speak. And I just, like you watch the opening acts and you I can riff off of this and I developed this bit in my head that was not ready and I went up to speak and instead of hearing the ladies and gentlemen are you ready for your headliner and applause I realized there's dead silence and I'm I'm walking through water and I went up to speak and I lost my breath I started to talk and I went up to speak and I lost my breath. I started to talk and I see the mayor looking at me like, why are you up here? What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:01:50 The mayor of Bisbee? Yeah. How many people are in Bisbee? 5,000, 5,500. Don't make me move there. I'll become the mayor. I just, everything, everything that I had thought about
Starting point is 02:02:01 listening to a bunch of speakers. Is that me live? Is that the video? Is this the exact thing? Is this it? Obviously we have enough people in the room to fight on my behalf. I don't have to be here. There was rumors of buses
Starting point is 02:02:18 of churches that were going to show up and filibuster this so we felt we had to sit down. No, this is not the breakdown. There was the next city council meeting. I saw this one. I fell apart where I... I'm talking to a cop
Starting point is 02:02:36 with a dead hooker in my trunk. And then all the eyes are getting worse and then I start flop sweating and I'm going, this is why I'm going to default lines. This is why I normally drink. And Rosa Parks, and I had to leave in shame knowing that the fucking mayor and one of the councilmen and the rest of my friends have seen this, and they're coming to my house. And I'm like, I have to leave Bisbee. Why are they coming to your house and i'm like the only i have to leave why are they coming to your house because they would party over there party with the mayor
Starting point is 02:03:08 fuck you yeah i met yeah the mayor's cool i met her i've been at your house why would you panic then if you party i just went into a fucking pant like i had all this stuff that i know in my head is a comedy bit that i could do but going wasn't done yet no going up to a bunch of people that are angry and don't want to see me and don't know. You got to always bring at least a little bit of your own audience. But I did. I had my friends there, which made it worse. I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:03:36 It was the dream that you have where you don't know what the fuck you're doing on stage and you wake up going, oh, fucking thank God. That was just a dream but it was real and it was really to this day i see people that were at that city council meeting and i i go i i should kill myself you hang your head in shame it was fucking how long ago was this last year dude we need to change this you got to move to a new town we need to move this reality no we need to fucking clean out the town everybody who's seen that we need to change this You gotta move to a new town We need to move this No, we need to fucking clean out the town Everybody who's seen that, we need to kill them That's all it is
Starting point is 02:04:09 That's what I thought I actually said that on stage No, last week I went up and City council You redeemed yourself? No, I didn't redeem us I didn't kill But I went up and said
Starting point is 02:04:20 Hey, listen, we're having a party I want to talk about noise complaints At a city council meeting You went up and said Hey, listen, we're having a party I go, hey, no I said, hey, listen, we're having a party. I want to talk about noise complaints. At a city council meeting, you went up and said, hey, listen, we're having a party? No, I said, hey, listen, I want to talk about noise complaints. You know what? There's neighbors that make noise complaints, and you're going to make a lot on May 25th. We're having a party. Out of respect for a whiskey girl in a nowhere man who died tragically between 6 and 10 p.m.
Starting point is 02:04:44 You know what? Don't call the cops. Just show up. Bring some food. died tragically between 6 and 10 p.m. You know what? Don't call the cops. Just show up. Bring some food. Dude, you're running that town. Why don't you run for mayor? Do you think you would win?
Starting point is 02:04:56 I could win. Hmm. I could help you. But you'd have to show up, and it pays $386 a month. I don't even want any money. And all the people that don't know you will hate you in a safe way. No, no, we'll get rid of them. Don't move. No.
Starting point is 02:05:13 How much do you think their houses are worth? Here's the reality. Here's the reality. If they really had their shit together, would they be living in Bisbee? Most likely, no. But you can just launch people in there, move people to town Doug Stanhope. They'd start buying up all these houses of these malcontents who are upset that you're the new mayor. When you're on the road, you do your show.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Let's say there's 500 people at the show. At the end of the night night the staff are your only friends you don't fuck with the staff I live with the staff I live with a small tiny amount of people and you're going to see them at Safeway every day and if you fuck up what they think is important meaning
Starting point is 02:05:57 city politics in Bisbee I don't want to see those it's the same reason you wouldn't work a cruise ship because if you suck you're going to have to see those. It's the same reason you wouldn't work a cruise ship. Because if you suck, you're going to have to see those same people at the buffet and the Lido deck and shuffleboard for another week. I see your point. I wouldn't work a cruise ship because I don't want to be on a boat in the middle of the fucking ocean
Starting point is 02:06:18 trapped with a bunch of people. But I see your point. Like, if you bomb. Don't be made. It would be, fuck Hunter Thompson running for sheriff of Woody Creek. If you ran for mayor of Bisbee and actually won, it might be the greatest victory that our generation has ever had. We have a great mayor! Listen, dude.
Starting point is 02:06:40 The great mayor is great. He'll work for you. This is my thoughts. You can take over Bisbee, and then from you taking over Bisbee, we just start moving people in. Just start. People will go, fuck this place. It's going to shit.
Starting point is 02:06:54 Stanhope's doing coke. They sell their house. Cool people buy it. I want to be near Stanhope. Next thing you know, you've got a fucking town filled with Doug Stanhope fans. I tell you, whenever I visit you... Do you know why I give out my address on your podcast? 212 Van Dyke Street,
Starting point is 02:07:10 Bisbee, Arizona, 85603. Let me repeat, 212 Van Dyke Street, Bisbee, Arizona, 85603. Mail packages to us. I can give that out because I can't get my own friends, namely Joe Rogan, to even
Starting point is 02:07:25 visit me, much less get psychotics. I'd be happy to visit you. You would be. I haven't done it. But I would be happy to visit you. Well, you're going to buy the cave house. I would like to buy that cave house, but then you fucked up. Now everybody knows the fucking cave house is where I'm going to be living.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Everyone's known about the cave house. It's been featured in magazines. But if I buy the cave house, it's a different thing. Because you just said you're going to buy the cave house is where I'm going to be living. Everyone's known about the cave house. It's been featured in magazines. But if I buy the cave house, it's a different thing. Because you just said you're going to buy the cave house. Time share it. Airbnb. You fucked me up. You fucked up my cave house dreams right there by disclosure.
Starting point is 02:07:55 By involuntary disclosure, you fucked up my cave house dreams. That house has been in so many magazines. We just need guns and fences and shit. We have guns. Hire Mexicans. I think that you could run that town, dude. I think you're already running that town. You already own any real estate.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Have you seen Windy City Heat? Yeah. Okay. It's a great show. That's what we're looking at. It's fine. Is to not run for mayor, but run someone for mayor. That's...
Starting point is 02:08:22 Okay. Now I like how you think. Enough said. Now I like how you're thinking. Now I like how you think. Enough said. Now I like how you're thinking. Now I like what you're thinking. We're thinking. What we need to do is just, there's a lot of people that just really are not totally buying the whole future Bisbee experience. We need to get them to start selling.
Starting point is 02:08:38 You know, it's like a reverse blockbusting. Let them know. Look. Gentrify Bisbee. I already have a guy that's made the logo. It's the communist fist with a Rolex on it. It says Gentrify Bisbee. I already have a guy that's made the logo. It's the communist fist with a Rolex on it. It says Gentrify Bisbee. That's your version of the gonzo fucking two-thumbed holding the peyote button.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Yeah, Gentrify Bisbee in communist lettering. Dude, you make it very attractive. Make moving to the middle of nowhere next to the Mexican border. There's some cool places there. You couldn't do it. Cool town. I couldn't do it? No. You moving to the middle of nowhere next to the Mexican border. There's some cool places there. You couldn't do it. Cool town. I couldn't do it? No, you have to have the fucking...
Starting point is 02:09:09 You need shit around you. What do I need around me? I'm good just laying in a hammock. I don't actually have a hammock. I lived in the mountains of Colorado for a while. For about two months and fucking fled back here. No, it was three months. But my wife got pregnant.
Starting point is 02:09:23 You can't live up there if you're pregnant. Yeah, yeah. The point is... But you can't. You're like led back here. No, it was three months. But my wife got pregnant. You can't live up there if you're pregnant. Yeah, yeah. The point is... But you can't. You're like a tell. You have to do a show before the giant show. You have to have a big show before the giant show. I understand it.
Starting point is 02:09:37 I'm not downing you. What's that mean, the big show before the giant show? Well, you go to do UFC, and then you do a big theater show before you do the monstrous fucking UFC show. And, yeah, you thrive on that kind of attention. I'm terrified by it. When you brought me to UFC, I've never been more scared. Even with you.
Starting point is 02:09:58 Like, just stay with me. Droog it! Get a picture! Fuck you, Hollywood! get a picture fuck you Hollywood that's my UFC experience in a nutshell fuck you Hollywood me walking through a crowd Joe you got me tickets
Starting point is 02:10:14 to the Staples Center a couple years ago and I had never been to UFC and I absolutely loved it just transformed because I was a real boxing fan purist and I absolutely fell in love with it. But the seats were, like, way up in the top of the arena, and some guy was sitting in my seat, and I mentioned the guy was in my seat.
Starting point is 02:10:33 I showed him the ticket, and I started talking to the guy. He was in, like, the next seat over, and I was so high up, and I had mentioned that Joe Rogan had gotten me the tickets, and the guy turns to me and goes, I thought you were better friends because they were so high up. They were like, How high up were they? They were pretty high up.
Starting point is 02:10:48 Did you get the tickets really last minute or something? It must be. Probably a couple days before. Yeah, that's the problem. It was probably sold out. That's all I could get you.
Starting point is 02:10:56 Fucking lazy bitch. See that little speck down there? I know that guy. Brian, how many times have you been on the floor? Almost every time. Yeah, he's always on the floor. I had pretty good seats. Yeah, Stan helps on the floor too. I would have had you on the floor. Almost every time. Yeah, he's always on the floor. If you get in touch with me. I have pretty good seats.
Starting point is 02:11:05 Yeah, Stan helps on the floor too. I would have had you on the floor. You just can't holler at me two days before. It's probably based
Starting point is 02:11:12 on that racist bit you did. Something about that fucking watermelon chicken eating lawn soldier that you had. Was a black fighter
Starting point is 02:11:21 headlining? Yeah, dude, if you ever want to go, just ask me. You don't have to drop hints on a podcast. Jesus Christ. I'll get you better seats. Bill Cosby. Fuck, yeah, we're going to go. Are we?
Starting point is 02:11:35 We're going to go see Bill Cosby if you want to go. No, fuck no. Me and Edwards. I'm telling you, I keep hearing he's really fucking funny. I keep hearing from a bunch of people. He tells these long, really funny storytelling bits. I keep hearing from a bunch of people that he tells these long, really funny storytelling bits. I heard it from Bill Burr.
Starting point is 02:11:49 I heard it from Ian Edwards. I heard it from Bill Cosby. I heard it from Chris Rock. I heard it from a bunch of fucking people that Cosby's fucking hilarious. Yeah, I heard the same thing. I keep hearing it, man. I heard it from a dude, a random dude that doesn't even do comedy in Austin. He goes, you know what really fucking surprised me? He goes, my friends took me out to see Bill Cosby. And I was like, I don't want to
Starting point is 02:12:07 go see Bill Cosby, man. He's like 80 years old. What the fuck am I going to get out of this? He goes, dude, I was fucking crying last night. He goes, for the first five minutes, you go, what am I getting into? Because he doesn't have an opening act. He just goes out there and he starts talking. For the first five minutes, it takes a while to build up. And he goes, I'm like, what am I doing? What am I fucking sitting through? How long is this going to be? He goes, then you start fucking, he starts tying things together and you start fucking laughing.
Starting point is 02:12:31 Then it goes deeper and deeper. Apparently he's been touring. You go look at his schedule. He's fucking touring a lot. You look at his schedule. I saw him working out a lot of that shit at the Comedy Cellar. You joking? Yeah, I'm joking. He doesn't of that shit at the Comedy Cellar. You joking? Yeah, I'm joking.
Starting point is 02:12:46 He doesn't work it out at all. He does it on stage, but he's working every night. I was imagining Bill Cosby bumping someone at the Comedy Cellar at midnight to work out some new shit. He's still doing two theater shows a night in some places. I mean, he's doing a lot of shows. He's got all those illegitimate kids to take care of. He's also had a few lawsuits. Date rape,
Starting point is 02:13:07 something, something. Yeah, between... Whatever, whatever. Between long... Would you like to see my button pop? Between lengthy phone calls to black comics
Starting point is 02:13:14 about how they're ruining the fucking... Yes. Right. Listen, he's 100%. He's flawed. He's definitely flawed. But my idea of it
Starting point is 02:13:23 is not to connect him to the art form that I appreciate. I appreciate guys like you, guys like you, Diaz. I understand. I don't like clean comedy. I'm saying Donald Sterling needs the same fucking decency. Hey, that's an old feeble fucking dude that America is up in arms about. Rather than the justice system, which is really abusively racist oh yeah you know Bill Cosby Donald Sterling tour together okay I see your point um I'm look I'm not I switch headphones with Tom Rhodes
Starting point is 02:14:01 so it looks like he said that I I'm not in support of anything that Donald Sterling or Bill Cosby said, but I think that it's tough to ignore Cosby as a craftsman. And Sterling's not that funny. And I think Sterling's pretty funny when he's trying to bang a 20-year-old and he's fucking 81. I think it's funny that he pulls it off. And he's got to buy. Everybody's like, oh, my God, he bought her a Bentley and a Ferrari.
Starting point is 02:14:24 You have to buy him a Bentley and a Ferrari. If you have a billion dollars, a Bentley and a Ferrari is like buying a chicken necklace. You buy her something pretty, and she sucks your dick. And then if you're lucky, she'll do it again in six months. But he shouldn't have missed the payment. If you're a billionaire guy, and you're banging some psycho side pussy, make sure they got the payment. You know what happens is These guys get fucking greedy And they don't realize
Starting point is 02:14:47 How much a billion dollars Really is You know I don't realize I've been that guy You can give A chick like that I've been that guy
Starting point is 02:14:55 Where you're so desperate For a chick not to leave you That's out of your league Yeah You start talking racial shit To make her feel uncomfortable I have said so much worse shit That's what he did He said some racial shit to make her feel uncomfortable I have said so much worse shit That's what he did
Starting point is 02:15:07 He said some racial shit to make her feel uncomfortable Man You know I mean I think that's what happened I mean that's what he said happened I think he's just an asshole Just an old asshole and he didn't know that he was being recorded She came on CNN like two days later And he goes I'm his silly rabbit
Starting point is 02:15:23 Did you see that? No she came on CNN, I'm his silly rabbit. Did you see that? No. Like two days later, she was like, I'm his silly rabbit. He has a view of race that might be inappropriate to someone. A racist doesn't hire black general managers and coaches. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:41 He's not a fucking Klansman. There's real racism in the world. Sports people are not your fucking... Yeah. He's not a fucking Klansman. There's real racism in the world. Sports people are not your fucking... Yeah. Well, one thing wasn't talked about. Pillars of morality. Did he say it in his own house? I mean, you should be able to say whatever you want in your own house, right?
Starting point is 02:15:56 Well, apparently he's got... That's what's kind of Orwellian about it. But they never said where it was recorded. He never said, you know what? Why would he bring the side pussy to his house? I'm going to fuck these niggers over. You know what? My team's going to be all white. No. Well, apparently, he bring the side pussy to his house? I'm going to fuck these niggers over. You know what? My team's going to be all white.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Well, apparently, here's the deal. He said, fuck. Go ahead and fuck. Black guys. Michael, not Michael, Jordan. Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson. Is that, you know what?
Starting point is 02:16:21 Feed him. Fuck him. I don't care. Just please don't put pictures on Instagram. Yeah. If that's racist. Well, the idea is that it's racist because it's in this great position of power. People keep contacting me.
Starting point is 02:16:35 Go in there and fucking a black guy. It's the culture. They call him. Did you, Donald, did you really buy that broad? You bought her a Ferrari and look at her taking the pictures of Michael Jackson. With the Schwitzer. You know the magic. Magic fucks everything he can.
Starting point is 02:16:51 You know that, right? Magic is just constantly fucking this broad. And you're buying her a Rolls Royce. You don't want to get the AIDS, honey, because he has the AIDS and she's taking pictures. You know what magic bought her? He bought her a dick sandwich. That's what he bought her. I have a black girlfriend
Starting point is 02:17:07 and I said it's okay if you fuck another black guy. Just don't put pictures on the internet so people fuck with me. That's a racist now. That is a racist. A guy with a black girlfriend that he's cheating on his wife with
Starting point is 02:17:20 saying you can fuck other black guys just don't put it on the internet. That's racism. Listen, he doesn't know any better. These are quotes. He doesn't know any better, Doug Stano. He doesn't know any better than to not fuck a black girl if you're a racist. If you're a racist, Donald, you get it wrong.
Starting point is 02:17:39 You don't fuck black girls and you don't say it's okay to fuck other black guys as long as you don't put it on the internet. Did you see that shit we talked about last time? We brought up the fact that maybe he had Alzheimer's or something like that. Well, that's what they're trying to say now that he has the early stages. He's got cancer. Yes. So he forgot that he's dating a black girl.
Starting point is 02:17:59 No, well, that's the whole reason why the whole recording was being done in the first place. He can't remember the things he said. So part of her job, she actually works for him, part of her job is that she's supposed to record his conversations so that he can talk about things and she can bring it up, what he's already talked about. So he knows what he said. Apparently, he's like going mental. Right, and so she releases the tapes.
Starting point is 02:18:21 Sterling thinks... That's what she said. He said the opposite, evidently. I read the transcript because I don't have cable at my Airbnb, but my girlfriend pissed her bed, so we're even. It didn't hit the mattress. It didn't.
Starting point is 02:18:37 I think it's a sad state. It's a sad state when you want to fucking shit on an old man who's alone in his home and everybody's going off on him. Everybody goes, could you stick up for him? He's got all this money. He's an old man that wanted to get some pussy. It's a sad state when people are
Starting point is 02:18:53 being let off fucking death row only because of the Innocence Project clearing their name because they were black. They were convicted of shit and spending 20 years in prison. the justice system fucking cops shooting black kids because they thought they had
Starting point is 02:19:10 a gun and that's not blowing up in the news, that's not trending on Twitter a fucking old feeble man going, fuck Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson. No, I couldn't agree more, I mean, obviously in perspective, but the idea is, of course,
Starting point is 02:19:25 we're paying attention to this guy because he's a billionaire and because he owns a gigantic sports franchise and he also made a shit-fuck ton of money off of black people and apparently he's not happy about black people banging his side piece. The whole thing is hilarious that it's so mild,
Starting point is 02:19:42 the things that he said, whether it's racist or not, it's so mild in the context that he said, whether it's racist or not, so mild in the context that he said it in the comfort of his own home. There was no racial slurs. There was nothing defamatory. There's no, they're less than us. They're not white. They're not us.
Starting point is 02:19:55 I heard that he lent Jerry West the money to buy the Lakers. So that guy single-handedly is responsible for basketball in Los Angeles. Well, he's a fucking rich dude. He's super successful. But he's a cunt. He's been a cunt forever. He's been racially discriminating against people that lived in his properties. But so have a million other people.
Starting point is 02:20:15 He was 60 when the internet came out. I'm not sticking up for the guy. He ain't a great guy. I'm not. I'm not. He ain't a great guy. He's not a perfect example of what an 80-year-old person who's learned from lifetime mistakes can be. He's not. I'm not. He ain't a great guy. He's not a perfect example of what an 80-year-old person who's learned from a lifetime of mistakes can be. He's not.
Starting point is 02:20:27 He's an old billionaire who wanted to get his dick sucked by some crazy bitch, so he talked a lot of shit. And we found out about it because it got out. It was a private thing. father slash uncle slash guy that you listen to him at Thanksgiving dinner say way worse shit with like, you know, the epithets saying nigger and spic and everything and you all just go, do you want some more butternut squash, Uncle Harry? Yeah, but the thing is, everything's going to be recorded. There's just recording devices everywhere. Well, it's an example of what we're learning.
Starting point is 02:21:06 It's very Orwellian. We're going to have to just be constantly aware of what we're saying. Stop, police! Stop, police! Get out of my fucking head! All right, closer. Drop the headphones and leave. Well, you're voluntarily doing that by doing something like this, right? For three hours, you're giving up your thoughts.
Starting point is 02:21:23 I think there's not going to be any secrets. I think the idea... I think I'm going to thoughts. I think there's not going to be any secrets. I think the idea... I think I'm going to go you one further. There's not going to be any money. Because money is information. Money right now is just ones and zeros on a fucking website somewhere. That's what Bitcoin's going to be. That's what the money essentially that we
Starting point is 02:21:39 have now is not backed by gold. That's what it is. The end of secrecy will... It's a bit i've never done enough hallucinogens to work out but the fact that it's gone yeah the fact that you will never have a private thought yeah there's not going to be any private inner voice but you know what i mean we we want to think of it as like everything that we experience in our lifetime is like a static thing that has to stay like this. But it never does.
Starting point is 02:22:06 It never has. From the moment that some fucking weird little sneaky little multi-cell thing crawled out of the ocean, it's never been the same. Everything keeps changing. It's going to keep changing. And what we're doing right now is we're figuring out new ways to not be able to hide shit. Not be able to hide ideas. Not be able to hide ideas. Not be able to hide the very thoughts
Starting point is 02:22:27 in your own fucking mind. Not just what you say when you're trying to bang your side piece and she's recording you because your mind is mush. No, that's the new coin term because of Donald Sterling.
Starting point is 02:22:37 It's not the... No, that's been around forever. It's called side bitch now. No, that's only in your circle. Jesus, why are you so rude? He's a misogynist. I know. He got some porn star pussy at some point, and all of a sudden.
Starting point is 02:22:52 This is just indicative of some greater trend that's going on. That greater trend is the access to information. That's what it is. It's information, whether it's information, like the idea that what you say in a room is just like there's an echo and it dies off. It's not going to die off anymore. There's not going to be an echo. There's going to be a recording, and it's going to change the very dimension that you exist in.
Starting point is 02:23:13 The very world that you interface with is a completely different world now. And it's because the very things that come out of your mouth are no longer temporary. They're now resourceable. They're now researchable. You can go back and find them. You put them in a bank. You hold on to them. You have them on a phone. You have them in a database in Utah because the
Starting point is 02:23:31 NSA has collected all your emails. But as long as there's celebrity, as long as there's a Donald Sterling that doesn't matter versus the cop who's caught on tape hitting a fucking guy with a baton. But they're getting
Starting point is 02:23:48 in trouble too. I mean, the guy who just shot that 83-year-old lady, the 83-year-old lady. 93. Crazy lady, had a gun, screaming and yelling. Guy came in and just unloaded on her, just pumped a fucking ton of bullets into her. Every week. Every week. They're like, what are you doing? You didn't just shoot the old lady
Starting point is 02:24:04 once. You shot a fucking dozen bullets in her direction or something crazy like that. It is every week. And it doesn't make sense. And it's not fair. And that is being exposed not as much as the people
Starting point is 02:24:17 like the Donald Sterlings, but enough that you see a trend. If you just looked at it completely objectively outside the ideas of social justice, and just looked at it like objectively, outside the ideas of social justice, and just looked at it like,
Starting point is 02:24:30 yeah, well, look at it like a scientific observation. If you look at it like that, you go, well, yeah, Mel Gibson got fucked over by some crazy cunt, and Donald Sterling, he's an old man. But he's screaming, I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers. That one's saying, turn in your fucking SAG card. Because they take it into account that he's a fucking entertainer, and they give him a little bit of slack. But stepping outside
Starting point is 02:24:48 the idea of justice. He doesn't give black people hundreds of millions of dollars. You're right. Like Donald Sterling who goes, please don't fuck black people. I don't think you should quantify who's better. I think what I look at it on, I try to not think of myself being connected. What would
Starting point is 02:25:04 I do if I was an old crazy guy like Donald Sterling or Mel Gibson? I go, what's going on? What's going on is there's not going to be any secrets. You better get used to it because it slowly happens with a TMZ tape that the fucking mistress of Donald Sterling releases or Mel Gibson's crazy rants, his racist rants at a cop or you know whatever but when you're sitting in a cubicle and you went on a date with another guy in the office and you're typing on facebook going he's fucking he was kind of nice but he's filthy and he's as bad breath and he chews with his mouth open all all of a sudden, yeah, now you're reading that on
Starting point is 02:25:45 Facebook about you. It's no longer TMZ about some celebrity. Now you're finding out the truth about how someone feels about you on the internet and you go, oh, oh my God, that's how people feel about me. I'm just a guy in another cubicle. Yeah, people find out shit about you without being famous. You're not famous, but you read, oh, this is my cousin just said this about me in social networking. And now I know, yeah, no one has any secrets. Yeah, well, it's a ripple effect. I mean, right now it's hitting the celebrities first. But it's going to go deeper and deeper into the culture.
Starting point is 02:26:22 There's no getting around it, man. It's like what we're experiencing now is not going to be where the future is. The future is going to be we're going to be able to read each other's fucking minds. They're really close to it. They're coming up with technology on a day-to-day basis that is establishing the very steps to take to not just be able to send each other pictures or emails on a phone, but to be able to do it mind-to-mind.
Starting point is 02:26:44 They're working on that. It's not like an impossibility. It's an inevitability. It's just a matter of how long it's going to take before the technology becomes viable. They're working on it. Unless we get hit by an asteroid or invaded by aliens or we blow each other up in a nuclear war, it's coming. Worst fear about reincarnation is I go I'll be dead
Starting point is 02:27:05 before that happens oh wait I'll come back oh Jesus well not only that what if they come up with something that fucking regenerates you
Starting point is 02:27:12 what if they come up with something like this mouse thing where they're injecting young mice blood into these mice and making the mice regenerate
Starting point is 02:27:19 and they're actually regenerating brain tissue and reversing the signs of aging this is like legitimate scientific experiments they're doing on mice where they're showing that this is a potential thing that might work on all mammals. It might not just only work on mice.
Starting point is 02:27:34 It might be something it could do with anybody. I saw this on Sullivan and Son. Hey, speaking of Sullivan and Son. If they offered that to you, would you just assume, like, I'd rather not, I'd rather fucking go out in a blaze of camels and just keep it. He has to fucking. I just gave you an opening. You said before the show you need to mention Sullivan and Son.
Starting point is 02:27:55 They get older. Their fucking prostates swell up. They have a very small little bladder. It's like a coin purse for a child. You know what? I spent so much time dealing with my prostate one-on-one. One-on-one with two fingers or one? I mean, are you using
Starting point is 02:28:09 a glove or are you just going raw dog? You snip your nails. Do you file down the edges or are you just fucking crazy? Just go in there ragged with a coke nail. One of those fucking big ones from Dracula that's a silver with a tip on the end. I just tear up the inside of your asshole.
Starting point is 02:28:27 I find my prostate. Find it. And introduce it to a world of pain. Hellraiser style. That last soliloquy of mine. The last step. That evidently didn't make sense to you. That was the eye roll.
Starting point is 02:28:47 No. It's the reason I don't do podcasts by myself. It makes sense. It makes sense. Eventually, Joe Rogan has to frown on me, and I go, hey, that's an hour. Neither one of us. Neither one of us are, I mean, there's no right or wrong. We're both making sense.
Starting point is 02:29:02 It's like there's a bunch of different points to this whole thing. You're absolutely right that it's one of the most minor forms of racism ever, where people are having this massive amounts of outrage. But people always have massive amounts of outrage. He's fucking a black girl. But people have massive amounts of outrage at anything a billionaire does, especially if that billionaire
Starting point is 02:29:19 owns a bunch of black people. No, they have massive amounts of outrage at what CNN tells them to be outraged about. That's true, too. But this is one of those things where if you have a billionaire who owns a bunch of black people's contracts, he owns a bunch of teams. Thank God there was a parenthesis. That was my tweet.
Starting point is 02:29:39 I go, I want to buy the L.A. Clippers, but I don't have the money, but I think it would be racist to buy just one. He owns, I mean, he owns. Ask Doug Stanhope. If you own a team, do you own the contracts? I mean, how do you own it? I mean, you're essentially, you own the business that's employing X amount of black people. It's interesting that that guy is like, to see how the 1% lives, know that this guy can like buy his chick a ferrari like he doesn't care that it's you know he loses 2.5 million what is it
Starting point is 02:30:10 it's a chris rock bit plantation a chris the chris rock bit was uh there's a difference between rich and wealthy shack is rich the guy that writes the signs shacks check, is wealthy. That's a great bit. It's fucking phenomenal. That's a great bit. I don't even think we could wrap our heads around the idea of the 1%. The real Rockefeller-type money that's been in their circulation of their family for fucking generation after generation. I think it's so insane.
Starting point is 02:30:42 It's so decadent. I mean, the reason why we have these ideas about, like, skull and crossbones, the nepotism that, you know, these family fucking groups that get handed down. My son will be in skull and crossbones as well. They all get together and they put on diapers and paddle each other and suck each other's dicks and take Polaroids of it, put it in a vault in the middle of fucking Yale, somewhere deep in a dungeon. I mean, that's because these guys have been in control
Starting point is 02:31:08 of some ridiculous thing that they should have never had the power to wrap their fucking greedy little fingers around. Billions and billions and billions of dollars with no work at all. They were born into it. And they're born into this, and they're like, this is our legacy. We have to protect this.
Starting point is 02:31:22 It happens on every level of society. Yep. It does. It does. Whenever someone has're like, this is our legacy. We have to protect this. It happens on every level of society. Yep. It does. It does. Whenever someone has a real solid control. You're a cab dispatcher and you're going to give your friend that drinks with you the better fucking fare before. Everyone fucking does that.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Yeah, but that's like a friendship thing. There's a difference between what that is. Conspiracy theory naysayers. Conspiracy theories happen in this fucking room. People conspire against each other on some level. Right, but on this guy's level, why is it such a surprise to people that he looks at it like a plantation workers, that these are his property? I think probably a lot of billionaires have that attitude.
Starting point is 02:32:00 He's nothing compared to the same way you bring openers in case Joey Diaz doesn't show up. Hey, you know what? You're lower than Joey Diaz, but you're here for a reason. That's the same kind of theory as, hey, you work for me. What? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:32:20 Hang on. Someone else make that make sense, because it does. Hold on a second. You're saying to a guy that you're less than Joey Diaz. That's the same as the Donald Sterling guy saying... You own your fucking openers. You're a plantation owner. You own your openers. To the extent that Donald Sterling does.
Starting point is 02:32:42 Oh, I see. I feel terrible now. No, no, I'm saying he shouldn't feel terrible. He's paying the motherfuckers. He's an old cunt. He's like he's born in a different era. That's what Duncan Trussell said to you behind your back. It was a great show.
Starting point is 02:32:57 I should have been Joey Diaz the whole time. Oh, that's funny. You see this show? John D. Rockefeller is worth $340 billion. Not million, billion dollars. That's the number one richest American of all time. Number one richest. But that guy's dead.
Starting point is 02:33:16 That's not helping him. But his family. But John D. Rockefeller, when did he die? He died in 1937. I think that's the point. No one cares. It's such a baller. You can't take that pussy with you, said Tom Rhodes.
Starting point is 02:33:30 I was talking to somebody a couple weeks ago and every time I mentioned someone's name, the entertainer, the guy was on the internet. I think it's like networth.com. You can punch in anybody's name and it says what their net worth is. I looked myself up to see if it was accurate. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Who the fuck do you talk to that does that? If they do that, stop talking to them. Stern talks about it all the time. It's such bullshit. First of all, it's- Have you checked it? No. Check it right now and see if it's close. I don't even know.
Starting point is 02:33:58 I might be off by a million. My cousin's- Check it. I'm not even going to. My cousin's a cop in Florida, and I got to drive with him one night. I couldn't care less And I got to drive with him any attention, but to see if it's accurate why the substantiated? Who cares? Why did my point is not whether or not it's accurate? My point is who the fuck you tell a guy a guy's who you're talking about the guy immediately goes and checks his worth I'll tell you who cares
Starting point is 02:34:20 Or V Stiviano cares and her her name's Vanessa. Stop saying V. By the way, it's not even her name. It's a fake name. She's got a bunch of aliases. Either way, but she branded herself as V Stiviano. Fuck you. You're a gold digging cunt, but we'll go with Vanessa.
Starting point is 02:34:39 She's a nice girl who has something to offer. Look, she's not carrying logs. She's not being a fucking woodcutter for the mill. Those guys don't want to be there either. She's sucking old rich guy dick. I appreciate a scam, but when you get busted at it, just say, yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:55 It's not a scam. Listen, in my opinion, it's a noble profession that's been around longer than any other profession in history. And she's going to inspire a lot of other young girls to be yours. Fucking old guy! Not fucking them all the time. Well, look, it's all about what they're worth. Look, if he was George Clooney, that chick would be fucking him all the time. But he's not.
Starting point is 02:35:13 He's an 81-year-old bag of meat. He's an old wrinkly coin sack filled with flesh and some shitty hollow chicken bones that barely carry his old wounded hips around his fucking million-dollar mansion. He's an old fuck, okay? And she fucks him when she has to fuck him. And no more and no less. And that's what the market dictates, okay?
Starting point is 02:35:36 If it was George Clooney, if it was Chuck Liddell, Chuck Liddell would fuck her anytime he wanted to because he's an animal and he's alive and he's still a man. This is a guy who's barely clinging on to the very cellular existence that he maintains in this dimension.
Starting point is 02:35:52 His body's ready to tap the fuck out. So when she fucks him is when she fucks him. And that's the deal. You buy the Bentley, you pay the Ferrari, you take your fucking ride. And that's how the market's set. Uh. Ferrari, you take your fucking ride. And that's how the market's set. There's nothing wrong with what she's doing. There's nothing wrong with
Starting point is 02:36:14 what he's doing either. Both of them are doing fine work. And then when you fucking tape record that guy for no reason just to fuck him over. I don't think she tape recorded him to fuck him over. What I understand about the story is she let the tape recording out to fuck him over. But part of her job was to tape record him because the dude's got a job. Come on.
Starting point is 02:36:34 She let it out. And then when she went on CNN like two days later and she was on there. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. She did a fucking Barbara Walters interview. She's going to inspire young girls all over America to be fucking old guys. She's branding her own fucking dumb cats. But so she comes out on Barbara Walters and she
Starting point is 02:36:50 says, I'm Mr. Sterling's right arm, right hand man. It's like, you whore, you have one line we've taught you to say to cover this up. We woodshedded you on this one line. She had one fucking line she was supposed to say for the news fucking sound bite and she fucked it up.
Starting point is 02:37:08 Are you saying you did not look at that chick for a fraction of a second and sum her up completely, knowing what a horrible fucking L.A. gold digger, whatever label you... She was fishing him the whole time. Well, no doubt. But it's like my old bit about Anna Nicole Smith and her fucking husband, J. Howard Marshall, that billionaire guy. Oh, we all know him.
Starting point is 02:37:30 Everybody was like, hmm. No, but the idea is that, well, of course. That's the deal. You're 90 fucking years old. That's the deal. And the girl's young. That's the deal. She took it a step beyond the deal.
Starting point is 02:37:41 Yes, I 100% agree. Let me fucking put Andy Andrist in the mix. Yes. To the point where you go, okay, you stepped over the fucking man boundary of what the line is. You don't tape me and then put that out there for no reason just to make me look like an asshole
Starting point is 02:37:54 after the fact. Yes, I agree with you. I think that she is a bad person. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. But also, he's a bad person. And who knows what fucking chaos she grew up with. And who knows what fucking shit he said that she didn't record.
Starting point is 02:38:10 Who knows what the fuck their relationship is. But what I know is that, like, vultures circling Carrion. This is all over the news. I mean, we're in the middle of two fucking wars. You know, Russia is invading the Ukraine. We've got all kinds of chaos all over the world. And everybody's focusing on nonsense. Including us.
Starting point is 02:38:31 Yeah, it's the three-marked card bunch. But what we're doing... It's funny about the Ukraine. If the Ukraine had ass-fucking, we'd be talking about it. We're legitimate social commentators. In this day and age, we count as legitimate social commentators.
Starting point is 02:38:43 We're doing our job to point out the fruitlessness of this pursuit. Go out tomorrow and do something nice for someone you don't know. That's my point. Just hug some fucking people. Have a barbecue. Yeah, don't care. Don't even talk about Donald Sterling.
Starting point is 02:38:55 Buy that cave house in Bisbee so I don't. Move in. Move in. Take those 35 acres. If we could get 52 buyers one week a year. That's what I'm talking about. A fucking timeshare and a cave in Fisbee. I'm in for a week.
Starting point is 02:39:08 Call it the Mushroom Palace. Where you just go to eat mushrooms and then just rent it out. If we can make a legit deal with the police department. No. Jesus. Red band. Come on. If we can make a...
Starting point is 02:39:18 I have to, but you... You fucking smoke cigarettes for three hours. What are you talking about? I don't look over there. If we can make a legitimate deal... That's not part of the show. That's production. If we can make a legitimate deal. That's not part of the show. That's production. If we can make a legitimate deal with the local government.
Starting point is 02:39:29 Just fucking, you know, somebody we know becomes mayor and work something out. Some sort of an on it shamanic retreat down in Bisbee, Arizona. If you're mayor, you're a target. We have a nice little underground tunnel somewhere near a cave. I told you off the air. Somebody has a cave. I told you off the air stories. I told you three of them. Somebody has a cave. I told you off the air stories.
Starting point is 02:39:46 I told you three of them about how great Bisbee is. And I'll tell you the fourth one after we're off the air. This is what we do. We get someone on your death pool to be the mayor. And we replace him with the most likely candidate
Starting point is 02:39:57 every year. So we constantly got mayors that are dying off. Not now, but you had fucking Jake LaMotta in your living room, dude. I saw the pictures. He's not dead yet. That's what I'm talking about. Jake LaMotta in your living room, dude. I saw the pictures. He's not dead yet.
Starting point is 02:40:05 That's what I'm talking about. Jake LaMotta as mayor of Bisbee. You follow what I'm saying? It's perfect. And then who's his vice president? Wayne Newton. Shit. Somebody else is ready to fucking go. We've talked about it. It's not the mayor. It's the sheriff. Are you partying with Johnny Depp
Starting point is 02:40:22 or is that a fake Johnny Depp? Is that a real Johnny Depp? Who's that guy over your house? Whatever, whatever. I'll tell you another time oh yeah oh shit it's a real thing yeah shit okay forget about Johnny Depp party in your house what's uh you know there's people that we can have that could be you know mayoral candidates work something now we got a little utopia going on here but it's a little bit of shell game. It's a bit of a shell game. Right now, it's utopia for me. Maybe you move in.
Starting point is 02:40:49 All the fucking vultures follow you. It was so nice until Rogan moved in and ruined the neighborhood. Everybody started crossfitting. They all started running up hills in sandbags. They're all drinking ionized water and fucking getting vampire blood. Kettlebell Boulevard.
Starting point is 02:41:10 I like the idea. I met Steve Byrne the other night. He's a great guy. I heard that Tom Rhodes is on one of his... Hey, he's got a sitcom, doesn't he? He's on a TV show that Tom Rhodes is on. Steve Byrne. I'm at a place now where I've met so many comics over the years,
Starting point is 02:41:28 and I've been kind of away from them for 10 years, that I met Steve Byrne, and I assumed I knew him. And he's like, oh, so nice to meet you. And I'm like, don't we already know each other? Because you're so familiar. And I was in a drunken state. Tom saw me there. This fucking story just got shady.
Starting point is 02:41:46 Right. I'm not buying this at all. Well, it's like Amy Schumer. I don't know if, I assume I've met her because she looks familiar and now she's famous. So I just assume we probably met at a festival somewhere. Right. Because she got famous.
Starting point is 02:42:01 On the sneak tip? After me. After my career, she was, so I go, we probably met at Montreal. So Steve Byrne, he's like, no, I've never met you. And I'm like, maybe I'm just drunk. I thought I did. So I saw you there. Yeah, I ran into you.
Starting point is 02:42:18 I saw you at the improv and Steve Byrne was there also. This is what, Saturday night? Yeah. I'm screaming drinks for all my friends or whatever. Steve Byrne, I have a lot of friends who have television shows, like good friends of mine, and I've never been on them. Steve is a guy I know. He's a friend, but not like a really good friend.
Starting point is 02:42:35 That Saturday night, you were plastered, and then you left, and then I was talking to him, and he's, when are you leaving town? I'm like, Wednesday. He goes, oh, that's great. We tape on Tuesdays, and there's a role that will be perfect for you. He goes, you got a second? Pulls out his phone, calls his executive producer, gets off the phone, and goes, we rehearse Monday and film Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:42:54 And the role is a part. I met him first that night. I had nothing. Well, the role was a part of a road comic that sucks his cock. It's a very complicated piece. Back to the front desk guy blowing you for material. Jesus Christ. I could have had my teeth removed.
Starting point is 02:43:15 And... Scene. Scene. This is the end. We ran out of time. My only friend. We did a 500th podcast. Wow, 500. You gentlemen are the part of the 500th podcast. Wow, 500.
Starting point is 02:43:25 You gentlemen were the part of the 500th. You ever done 500 times three hours? Just to see what that is. I don't think it really is three hours. I think a lot of them are two, but most of them are three. The majority of them, probably like 80% of three. This is the end. This is the end.
Starting point is 02:43:38 My only friend. Where are you going, bitch? Asia. How dare you? I went to Asia for a month. How dare you, Tom Rhodes? Vietnam. I'm going to Hawaii.
Starting point is 02:43:45 Maybe we'll be on the same flight. That makes sense. They're going the same direction. Layover in Honolulu. Where are you going to Hawaii? Are you doing gigs? Nah. You ever do a gig? Mileage grab. Yeah, last time I... You met a front desk guy that blew you. Mileage grab.
Starting point is 02:44:01 I go through Hawaii and I just tweeted, hey, I'm going to Hawaii. Set me up with a gig, anyone. And within, I think, 12 hours it was done. Wow. And so I tried it again. I didn't actually tweet it. This time I went back to the same guy.
Starting point is 02:44:18 Well, Eddie Ift is there that night. Well, that's because they saw your council meeting. Well, no, I'm going to see Eddie Ift. Well, that's because they saw your council meeting. They saw that. Well, no. I'm going to see Eddie Ift. Hey, there's my plug. I have some dates coming up in Seattle and Portland and shit in June. Go to my website. But go see Eddie Ift in Honolulu on Saturday night. See me in Seoul, Korea next week.
Starting point is 02:44:38 This Saturday coming up? Yeah. I don't know what that date is. Well, just Google it. Make sure the date is correct. I'll be seeing Eddie Yift. There you go, ladies and gentlemen. I'll be in the audience.
Starting point is 02:44:48 Happy to be there. Tom Rhodes is underscore Tom R-H-O-D-E-S. Whoever the fuck this original Tom Rhodes is that got it. I don't know. I remember you told me once you shouldn't use underscore. No one can figure out where to find underscore. I had a hard time finding it. I don't want anyone to follow me who can't find underscore.
Starting point is 02:45:07 I said that about both of you recently on a podcast. Like, why don't you have your fucking audience go after whoever has Tom Rhodes, I mean, JoeRogan.com and fucking just assassinate him until he gives up the website. He's a nice old dude who happens to be older than me, and he's been Joe Rogan longer than I have. Fuck him. He wanted to sell it to me, but he wanted a lot of money. TomRoads.com gave me TomRoads.net. That's glorious.
Starting point is 02:45:33 Said all I had to do was give him free tickets for life whenever I played in Dallas. That's actually pretty good. And he's always a real estate guy in Dallas. Oh, that's cool. Yours is a real estate guy, too. Mine's a real estate guy. Fuck real estate.
Starting point is 02:45:43 Boiseado. Kill the landlords. Fuck property. Fuck property. Fuck real estate. Boiseado. Kill the landlords. Fuck property. Fuck property. Fuck property rights. Except for the cave house. Except for the cave house. It only takes bitcoins.
Starting point is 02:45:52 That's the shamanic center. Once we get the fucking raging bull to be the mayor, we have the whole rules changed. That's it. This podcast is over. This has been the 500th one. We thank you very much for all of it. It's been ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:46:08 We started out in a living room just fucking around with a laptop, and now it's become something that's completely out of our hands. It's on you guys as much as it is me, and I appreciate the fuck out of all of you. I can't say anything without sounding rehearsed and insincere, but I couldn't be more honest about it. You sound so Ting and LegalZoom to me. Well, LegalZoom is next. Go to LegalZoom.com.
Starting point is 02:46:33 Use the code word Rogan. Save yourself some money. Go to Rogan.Ting.com. Save $25. Go to LegalZoom and use the password Norm. 500 episodes, you dirty fucks. We appreciate you very much. That's such a wicked inside joke that if anyone gets it, I'll give you a free ticket.
Starting point is 02:46:50 Doug Stanhope, ladies and gentlemen. Go to DougStanhope.com and leave your feces in brown paper bags. 212 Van Dyke. In e-form. Fisbee Arizona. Yeah, go visit him. He doesn't believe people visit him. But people, please visit him.
Starting point is 02:47:01 Just once. For once in your life. Follow his schedule. Find out the days that are off, email him, he'll email you back. Show up and bring beef jerky.
Starting point is 02:47:09 We love the fuck out of you. We'll see you soon. Bye bye. Much love. You got something to say? Friday, we'll be in Vegas with Tony Hinchcliffe
Starting point is 02:47:15 and Sarah Tiana. Friday, Vegas, go. It's at a pool hall too. Bring your chalk. Chalk there is very slippery. Alright.
Starting point is 02:47:21 Good pool player.

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