The Joe Rogan Experience - #517 - Crash, from Float Lab

Episode Date: June 30, 2014

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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! Hey! Ladies and gentlemen, for many of you who've heard this podcast before, you're aware of a thing that I'm really into called the Sensory Deprivation Tank. And the Sensory Deprivation Tank was invented by a guy named John Lilly, who is a scientist and a real freak, like a guy who is just really out there, really fascinating guy.

And he wrote a book that I picked it up on, I think like amazon.com, like the used books that they'll sell you, like people, sellers, individual sellers are selling. And it's the deep self. They'll sell you like people, sellers, individual sellers are selling. And it's the deep self. And in it, he talks about the benefits of the tank. It detailed construction on how to make your own tank. He's got like diagrams in it and just really, really fascinating guy. And he was into all sorts of weird altered states of consciousness.

And one of the things that he wanted to figure out was how to separate the body from the senses and he came up with a bunch of different designs there's a movie altered states that's kind of very loosely based on you know the idea of a guy like him going completely haywire and becoming like a monkey just that's how i got into sensory deprivation tanks i saw altered states and they they were historically fairly accurate in the design of the tanks the initial one that you saw altered states showed what lily had first came up with which was like a glass scuba helmet that sort of suspended him in regular water and uh he would actually poop and pee into it he had like some crazy filtration system so he could stay in there and not have to defecate or urinate. So it would go through some system that he had created.

I mean, this dude was gone. He was off the deep end. I mean, he's about as off the deep end as ever. But his big thing was to try to figure out how you can get the mind free of the influence of the body. And the best method he came up to was this idea of the tank and he figured out eventually to put salt water in it and that if you put enough epsom salts your body would float and then he could maintain the the heating temperature to essentially what's the same temperature is the surface of your skin and

you wouldn't be able to recognize where the water was. And it would give you this sensation of complete sensory deprivation. And he figured this out, and from that point on, till like, God, I don't mean... I met you in, what was it like? How many years ago was it? Five or six, probably. Five or six years ago.

Before that, I had that other gentleman who used to repair tanks for Samadhi, who's a great guy. Yeah. And he told me about you. And the guy was fixing my Samadhi tank. My Samadhi tank had fucked up. It wasn't the tank that fucked up. It was the heater. It burnt through the lining of the waterbed, and it shorted out the fucked up. It was the heater. Like, it burnt through the lining of the waterbed.

And it shorted out the whole thing. It was a disaster. Like, sometimes those heating elements, they'll pop, you know, for whatever reason. They cook. And it just melted a hole through the thing. So he had to repair it. He had to repair the lining. And while he was repairing the lining, he goes, you know, there's this guy in Venice that makes these, like, really high-tech tanks.

And he goes, you should contact him. His name is Crash. He's kind of an interesting guy. And so I asked him about it, and he went into depth about all the crazy shit that you had done to these tanks and what they looked like. And he sent me to your website, and I saw the tank. This was pre the stand-up tanks. They were still smaller, ones like Samadhi, but way better constructed. You had figured out how to do it where it was just like this. It looks like a meat locker.

I mean, it's so solid and well-built, and all your crazy filtration system and everything. And I realized that you were this one lone dude out there who was innovating in this sort of forgotten business this sort of forgotten aspect of uh of of modern day understanding of the mind i mean it's really it was ignored somehow or another i don't know what happened i don't know how all these scientists and geniuses missed out on the sensory deprivation tank promotion. They should have been talking about it everywhere. It is a mind-blowing evolution in meditation. It's a mind-blowing next step in meditation where you

instantaneously go, if you get good enough at it and you do it long enough, you instantaneously can go to psychedelic states. Intense, introspective, objective psychedelic states that are, they, they, they, they change your life. They fundamentally change the way you think about life. And the fact that these people aren't promoting this because it's not a drug, it's, it's totally safe. It's totally easy to acquire. It's, it's totally, uh's totally, it ends anytime you want. You open the door to get out and it's over. There's no repercussions. There's no weirdness to it. You instantaneously drift back into normal consciousness. No one's talking about it. No one was doing it. And I found you. And Brian created this video. Brian was the guy who made that video where we went down to the basement and videotaped the tank.

And from that video on, we started hearing more and more people opening up the centers. They started going crazy. They started opening up all over the place. And you continue to innovate. And you haven't said a word yet, by the way, if you know what I'm saying. Well, no, I don't have to. I'm just nodding my head. I mean, you're doing such a good job at your appraisal of the situation that I don't want to dilute it. No, I just feel like I'm yapping too much. Not at all. I'm really

enjoying this because you are the guy that six years ago, whatever it was, that first understood that too. Not only was I out there kind of standing around by myself, but when I found you, then that really escalated the exposure in general. And that just isn't for me. It has to do with industry overall. Once that you became, because you're an honest guy and your opinion people uh trust it and and when you say something then that uh it has value you know there's other been people say oh this that whatever you know it doesn't have that that sincerity the uh the true uh you know from from uh what you believe type thing it's a lot of times influenced by this or that.

But once you, you know, and you've been, like I say, even with the device thing was a big thing with this. Oh, Hamilton Morris. It was great. Incredible. And without you, that wouldn't have happened. You know, it's just, and that, these things help out everybody right now. Because the industry deserves an opportunity to expand and become available to people in general. Because it is an important thing to a person that's in the process of considering what it is that they're doing with themselves, which I think is very important for people to take responsibility for their

actions and what they do and what they say. Cause you know, you, you can, you're free to do that. You're, you're, you're allowed to be different. You're allowed to go ahead and say, you know what? I don't think this is quite the way that I, you know, and this is becoming actually more popular now is, is like freaky people that are able to go out and say, oh, well, Hey, maybe that. And they're going, oh yeah, they're doing all kinds of weird stuff. I don't even know what, what a Pilates is, but it's catching on you know right right i don't know if it's just our neighborhood or what is it la but they're different yoga spinning all these different uh activities that that that are that people do and a lot of the crossover too currently is based on these athletes that that you have contact with or that respect your

perspective or whatever and they show up that guy uh jeremy stevens was here the other day again yeah and then i watched him uh on a clip did i don't know when that this weekend it was this past week is that when he got that guy down fight he kicked him and then no no that was a knockout that he had in the previous fight man i just saw that the other day he he uh he uh that was a knockout that he had in the previous fight. Man, I just saw that the other day. That was in Brazil. Yeah, incredible. And he is such a nice guy. Great guy.

All those guys. Very smart, too. Oh, yeah. A lot of those guys are surprisingly nice and surprisingly smart. I think a lot of people have this idea about people that are involved in combat sports that they're mean. They're assholes. Quite the contrary. Yeah. involved in combat sports that they're mean they're assholes quite the contrary yeah i find to be some of the most level uh well-adjusted people that come in contact with they're not trying to prove anything because they're already secure with who they are and yeah they're more

level that's the best way of putting it like because you're forced to get your ego checked on a super regular basis and when that happens you kind of you just have a better view of things you know you don't you people are constantly afraid of losing and when you're a fighter you lose in the gym all the time and you kind of mellow that out you get an understanding of who you are and you and also the blowing off of the energy in the gym you just you feel so much better you're more chilled you're more relaxed about stuff. Like a lot of people, a lot of what their stress is is that their body's a battery. Their body's building up all this energy and it never gets exerted. So you're taking in all this food.

You're sitting in a cubicle. You're sitting in your car. You're sitting at the movies. You're constantly sitting and not doing anything. And you're just irritable. Your body's just trying to fuck. Dude, you fucking move? Get something going.

Come on. We've got all this shit pent up. And then someone would get in front of you in traffic. Fuck you. Oh, yeah. You know, and people wonder where that's coming from. Well, that's coming from you're all backed up. You know, you are backed up.

I know there's nothing scientific whatsoever to what I just said. The trigger is short on some of us. You know, they're pretty. It's also, you know, you're not getting your endorphins. It kind of calms you down. And I think that the tank represents a level of that in some way. That I think that it's a thing that should not just be something that people – it becomes popular. But something that becomes popular in a way where people get a chance to do a new thing that they can get excited about, which is one of the things that people like with like Pilates or yoga.

A new thing they could be excited about that could benefit them mentally, which is where I think we're missing out on a lot of this stuff. I think yoga does benefit you mentally. I think it calms you down and it's very good for you physically. But the physical aspect and the mental aspect coincide. With the tank, it's 100% mental. It's a weird, weird experience. Plus it's available for a human

being to actually participate in. This meditation where you sit in a room with your legs crossed and you're supposed to check out somehow. I can't do that. But I go sit in that box for a couple few hours and uh go all kinds of different things well you know the the meditation is possible i know that there's people that do that kundalini yoga and they have these intense psychedelic visions and i believe

them 100 because you you you do have endogenous chemicals that the brain produces that can give you psychedelic experiences like we know about dimethyltryptamine and we know about 5-methoxydimethyltryptamine being produced by the human body. So if those are being produced by the body, there could easily be some ancient method of stimulating that production, of releasing some sort of a burst of that production. And so these super kundalini masters, which seems like it would be something you'd want to do, but for whatever reason, I'm not compelled. I'm not compelled enough to learn it. But they can experience natural DMT trips at the highest levels of their art form, which I believe.

I think you just got to get really good at sitting there. Yeah. You just got to get really good at yoga positions. You got to get really good at meditating. You got to get really good at just getting good enough at yoga physically that you could just sort of fall into these forms and then when you're falling into these forms and supporting yourself in some way by by making your body work like that you like heighten your expression to whatever it is that yoga is trying to tap into and it's very psychedelic

but it's still not the tank and it it's difficult, you know, for me. Because I'm too wound up. I can't sit somewhere and just sit there. But if you tried, maybe you could force yourself. Yeah, I would have to force me. But do you think that would be good for you, to force yourself to do something like that? I don't have the, it's just not in my way that I operate.

You know what I mean? I have operating. When I'm awake, it's just not in my, it's not in the way that I operate. You know what I mean? I have operating. When I'm awake, I'm looking at, like even when I'm out snowboarding or riding my, whatever, I don't wear the earphones or whatever. If I'm right, I need to listen to what's happening, man, all the time. So it's distractive in general. But in there, it cuts everything off, and I go straight into my head, and there's nothing else there except for that.

I see what you're saying, too, about the physical. For some folks, they're just not interested in doing anything that's really physically strenuous. I totally understand that. And that energy winds up being, they distribute that energy to their work like you do. You're kind of just a mad fiend with your work and your constant improvements and innovations to all this stuff.

Like, you know, your energy goes where your energy is probably best suited. You know, it's not the same for everybody. That's what I'm trying to say. Some people have extra time or they're in the process or pursuit and that's a viable method of expression. Plus, it's a good way to meet chicks with nice legs.

That's what I think. They're probably the most advantageous. Otherwise, well, why are they going? What is it? Beak room yoga where it's all sweaty. They're in there. It's like 400 degrees. And you're going, oh, wow, this is a lot of fun.

You're basically having sex with a room full of people. Yeah. It's like the strangest thing ever. Now, you see, with all these things in mind, the chamber doesn't sound so bad. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I was going to say, just go in this thing and lay down there, and all of a sudden you have the ability to tap into yourself. I like both, man.

I really do like doing yoga. Well, you like to go pump up. I'm going to get me one of those gorilla, a couple of those kettlebells. Yeah, I like all what you just had to say about that. Start small, though. Yes. Yeah, like a baby what you just had to say about that. Start small though. Yes. Yeah, like a baby gorilla or something. Do you do any exercises?

No. Nothing? Nope. I go up and down the stairs. That works. That's something. Yeah, and I walk and, you know. That is a decision that people don't realize.

Like if you get to the airport and every time there's a stairway, you force yourself to take the stairway. Every time there's, you know, an escalator, you avoid that and get the stairs. Just that alone will make your trip just slightly better. Just get a little blood flow in your body.

I like that triple sonic, too. You ever get on yours? Yeah, I got that. I got it from you. That's fun. I get on that once in a while because I don't like that donut top. The muffin top. I don't like to have that thing. So it helps you lose weight? I don't do it too much for my stomach.

Sit-ups or something like this to try to get that from collecting down there. But standing on that thing, it kind of helps, I think. At least I psychologically believe it's something I'm doing for exercise. Wasn't that thing invented for Russian cosmonauts to keep them in orbit? invented for Russian cosmonauts to keep them in orbit? Yeah, I think that they were having issues with muscle deterioration and atrophy or whatever. So they, I guess, incorporated this system of vibration into the strengthening of their muscles, apparently. But I don't really know. It seems like, well, where did they take it? Did they take it up in the ship with them? Yeah, that's a good question.

Did they stop off somewhere at the place? Because you would have to have gravity to use it, right? Where's it at? Is there some electricity? It seems like a bulky piece to bring up with you if you're a limited amount of space. I don't know. Doesn't it also seem that if you did use it up in space, it wouldn't work? Yeah, because it shoots you right up maybe.

Who knows? You don't have any resistance. Yeah, the gravity is like half the thing, right? I think that's the principle that it's working with. Oh. Well, chambers in space then would work fine. You take a chamber up there to space, you wouldn't have to use as much salt there or something. I think it feels good.

That's why I like it. The vibrating on it like that? Yeah, I don't know if it's doing anything for me. But I feel it's like a little body massage. When I get on there, and for folks who don't know what it is, it's like some sort of a giant speaker, but it doesn't make sound.

It just sends, it's so weird to describe. It sends like sonic waves, right? Yeah, it moves you up and down. It's a voice coil, which is like a speaker has a voice coil and has a cone on it. Then the voice coil moves the cone up and down.

That creates a sound wave. This does have a cone, has a platform. So it moves you up and down at a variety of frequencies. So it kind of runs you through a pattern. Yeah. Then you can dial it up and say, oh, this is supposed to do this or that. I thought it was going to be a big hit because I think it has something to do with that fat ass syndrome.

Are there people that get that going on from too much or they're stopping off at the wrong places, you know. I don't know if the Turbosonic can fix that. It's a good start. I think they should, you know, eat less of that shit and work out a little bit. But what I do know about it is whatever it does, it feels good. You know, I don't know why it feels good. I'm not sure.

But it feels like a little, when you're getting vibrated, it feels like a little massage. Like, oh. Yeah, you can believe something's happening. You know, I don't know exactly what's going on, but it seems to be something. And the variations, too. It's really cool. It goes in a cycle where it'll go really fast and really slow. So it keeps you kind of interested in it.

And it's supposed to, by doing doing that it's supposed to be stimulating individual glands and get your flow going you know you're uh like you were saying about that working up like that and you got to get your body in motion you know i think people they sit too long on a chair all day long without moving around i don't think it's probably not that good yeah we've talked about it a million times the whole thing is, sitting in an office is a fucking terrible way to live your life. It's supposed to be super bad for you as I sit in an office. Well, you know, this is. But we only do it like three hours at a pop.

And even then I get up and I'm like. I have an office. I sit in my office every day, all day long. Then I get out of it and go back to it. You know, an office is how you set it up, I think. See, this is okay to sit around here. This is a fine office. It's fine.

Offices, they got that horrible light, and then there's the rules, and you got a suit on, you know? Yeah. Now you're sitting in the office, the whole thing represents a bummer. Do you think you have to do that to people to get them to work? Do you have to make them wear a suit to get them to work? I mean, if you let people wear T-shirts and jeans and shit, would they take insurance as seriously as they do if they're wearing that goofy monkey suit?

Would they stick to the company line when they're on the phone, giving those pep speaks? You wonder what's the image they're trying to project. What is it you're trying to... I'm a no-nonsense guy, Mr. Crash. Yeah, I guess it's true. Well, I look at my tie, and I never swear. Why? When I'm at the office, I'm completely appropriate.

And I'm laving these guys every time because I just don't think that that's who I want to be doing anything with, is these characters that are not working on their own, you know, oh, they're for these guys or those guys. Who are you? What do you want? What's your story? Well, these guys or those guys. You know what I mean?

You're working for somebody, and that's why you're showing up in a tie and a suit. Or you have a bunch of people working for you, and you want to look the role. Yeah, you've got to look impressive. I'm here to sell insurance, Mr. Crash. I'm a no-nonsense guy. Look at my cuff. They're perfectly cut and made. Those guys that do those commercials on the TV, rich person or whatever it is,

oh, look at my boat. Oh, I have these houses everywhere, and I've got a yacht. Look at all my real estate, Mr. Crash. Look at all this stuff I've got. I, look at my boat. Oh, I have these houses everywhere and I got a yacht. Look at all my real estate, Mr. French. I'm living like a winner. Meanwhile, I'm standing here in this terrible auditorium with a bunch of you

and this is what I'm begging for you maybe to give me some of your money so I can continue on with my maybe, maybe not lifestyle. Yeah, there's a lot of those weird guys that are like motivational speakers and they motivate you to come to their seminars, and they make a fuckload of money from your job.

And you're like, wait a minute. I thought you had a boat. You're out fishing. What's going on? It seems like you're still hanging out here at this place. This is a bummer in here. I can hardly wait to leave. This is your day?

You know, you're getting, eh. Yeah, it's not the best way to live life for me. No. But I'm glad someone's doing it. They have to do it. If no one was doing it, we would not have Apple computers. You would not have Samsung phones. You would not have Audi cars.

You wouldn't have these things if somebody wasn't out there busting their ass every day in an office. People like it. Some people are suited for that type of a lifestyle. So maybe if we reach too many people with this message of get your shit together, it'd be terrible for civilization as a whole. Overall. Maybe this would weaken us and like the Chinese would take over. Oh. This could be it. This could be it.

Crash. We're fucking it up. This could be the determining factor for that. We're fucking it up. We're fucking it up with these goddamn isolation tanks and these medical marijuana dispensaries. Oh, those are horrible too, man. It's terrible. Everybody's reconnecting. Everybody's reconnecting with nature, man. It was terrible. Reconnecting.

Everybody's reconnecting with nature. They don't want to live our unnatural life. How are you going to continue to build these buildings and launch these missiles if we don't continue to live our unnatural life? The more we tune into the natural life, the more we see how ridiculous it is. The more we wake up. It's coming our way. I think that people are coming around right now is that is happening

i think it is i think you're right is it that if you look at it like america is important you know even though i i don't have a flag or nothing like that but but it it's where we live and it's kind of like where we're from and it's you know sort of like what we're supposed to be uh you know proud about you're supposed to say oh i'm from here and'm from here and I'm really glad about that because where it is and the way they operate, I go along with that. But it's gotten too far now, in my opinion, which is everybody's gone. It needs to get to where the people actually get an overview again where they start to evaluate situations and then make correct decisions based on now instead of like these prehistoric uh versions of what's got us to here need to be uh you know hopefully at some point let go with and

get a new evaluation that's that's pertains to where we're at now in the world what what can we do now to get along with people how can we work together this even if these military see what the i think that there we sell a lot of guns in this country in pharmaceuticals. So you say, oh, I don't think we're going to get out of the bomb business because it's our business. So we have to figure out how to get these guys working, doing something good. So we don't like say, oh, all your jobs are gone now. Figure out how we could go in and do stuff together, use our money and our resources to create situations that are beneficial for people. We're not going to make friends by shooting at people.

We all know that. I mean, this is some kind of a fictitious concept that we can go over and make people happy by killing them. Well, the concept of war being for financial benefit is still pretty alien to a lot of folks. They don't believe it. They don't believe that that's why wars are started. Where's our money at?

Yeah. Well, all you'd have to consider is how much benefit there could have been done to America. I mean, if you're really a pro-America person and you really are a patriot, think about what a benefit it would have been to America to take a lot of that money that went to this crazy war that no one believes in anymore and try to clean up inner cities, try to fix Chicago, try to fix the border towns,

try to help Mexico. How fun would that be? We have a dangerous situation like 100 miles from us. I mean, what the fuck is that? How far is it to San Diego? It's two hours. Two hours. So what is that, 120 miles, something like that?

240, I think it's worth. They're in our neighborhood. What? How fast are you going, bitch? You're not going 130 miles an hour, you fucking retard. 140. 140, 140 miles? Something like that.

Okay, so 70 miles an hour for two hours. That's Mexico. That's crazy. That's crazy. It's a two-hour drive to a third-world country that's in turmoil, and we don't do a goddamn thing about it, and we're sending people to some place that's so far removed from us that just coincidentally happens to have oil. That's not why we're here.

That is not why we're here, Mr. Crash. We're here to fix things. The oil thing is a funny one. We've got a mess over here. We have all these people that killed people in New York City from Saudi Arabia. But we need to get over here and over here. Do you know what I don't believe? That oil is fossil fuel.

They say, oh, it's from a fossil. You think, oh, I've got fossils. They're rocks. You know what I mean? There's pressure under the ground. So in other words, it used to be the same dinosaurs out in the middle of the ocean. I don't think they think it's dinosaurs anymore. I think they think it's rotten plankton.

Yeah, up at the top of the frozen Alps and at the bottom of the ocean and over here in the desert. And everywhere at one time there was plankton all over now or whatever to make these gigantic puddles of this stuff that we're pumping out for some reason. And then you say, oh, look, step back and say, what are those guys doing down there? Well, you know, they're pumping this stuff out of there, the oil, they call it. And they turn it into a plastic material that litters the planet. They can't get rid of it. Or they take it and then they burn it into the atmosphere and poison themselves. And then what they do, they spend all their money to fight amongst each other to see who gets control of it. And're thinking this whole stuff isn't really that necessary it could be done without back to the hemp again look at that hemp what it has to offer yeah speaking well it's just too too

difficult to control you know there was a book on the process of of of oil being developed that they were trying to speculate somehow or another that it was developed through a natural process in the earth. And they were saying that our ideas of it were incorrect. But I don't think it was well received. I have the book. I never read it. I bought it and I was like, I'm going to read that one day. And I just sat there.

I never fucking read it. I just couldn't get behind it. It seemed kind of goofy that anybody wouldn't have figured that out by now. Exactly. I mean, you're going, wow. That thing about the planets, too, how they're supposed to be circularized in the Earth, the sun. Let's say the sun's moving, right? Let's say it's going this way.

So now they have a belief that, oh, the planets are circling the sun. I think that this makes more sense to me. And there's other, you know, this isn't my thought, but somebody showed that. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Say the sun is going this way. Well, what makes us think we're not in rotation in a vortex being pulled by the sun going somewhere? I think we're on a trip, man. We're going somewhere.

We started off where? Where was the sun 100 years ago? Where is it at now? And then where are we going to be later on? I believe the sun is pulling us through space and we're in. Well, that's not a belief. That's a fact. That's absolutely what's happening.

The whole galaxy is moving. Yeah, no, this is something that astrophysicists have figured out a while ago is that the whole universe is kind of moving. That's that expansion thing. I don't understand. I think we're going... Our galaxy's moving.

I think we're going in a direction somewhere. I think that if we figured out where's the sun and where is it off to, I think we're behind it. I think that if we figured out where's the sun and where is it off to, I think we're behind it. I think that we're following it and this is the way the rotation... I don't know which way is up or down in here.

Where's the north, south? I think that is exactly how it's supposed to be described. I think as it goes, we're circling around it. I think we're going around this way. I don't know. I'm too fucking stupid.

I don't know either. I don't understand it at all. I mean, when I watch those scientific uh documentaries on space it's one of the most fascinating things ever and most fascinating so that it's so rarely brought up in regular conversation that's where some of this money should go into like yeah expansion of the of the reality uh situation we're in here like oh look at we have this and that we can think about now get these scientists to tell them to put the phone down first off.

Put their phone down. Enough on the phone. It's a Geiger counter, it's a wind designer, it tells you the name of the tune that's on, you know, which,

it's like, okay, it's a phone, and nobody answers it, which is what really freaks me out, man. Because I got to call everybody at night and say,

hey, don't forget to come down tomorrow. I know you made an appointment, but I'm convinced that you're not going to be able to remember it so I'm calling you now to say oh hey don't forget and then I get 20% people answer the phone say oh yeah no problem got it the other 80% is me leaving a message you know which I can't stand leaving a message but I'm thinking they got it in their hand. They got it right here. How aren't they answering the phone?

It's a phone. Hello? Yeah, but don't you think it's good that there's all these capabilities that these things have, smartphones? I think it's good other people have them. Bitcoin on it. You could check out an email link that somebody sends you.

You don't think that's good? I think it's good for people that want to do that. Oh, I think it's good. I think it's good. I just think the problem is overuse. The problem is overuse of anything, though. It's overuse of softball. If you just became a fucking softball junkie and you're out there on the field every day

throwing that ball in the air and hitting them by yourself into a tree, and people are like, what is Tom doing? Can't wait for that fucking game on Sunday. Like, Jesus Christ, Tom, you got a family, you got a wife at home, get home. You know, you're obsessing. You're freaking people out, man. I think that's bad, too. But I think the phone in moderation is a beautiful

thing. It's amazing how much scientific advancements they've done on a phone in the past how many years? If they put that kind of brain power into anything anything we're driving the same car almost i guess the tesla's got a pretty new thing some kind of motorized or whatever yeah it's pretty similar to the cars that we had i was just talking with uh a friend last night about how like the cars of 10 years ago when i was a kid when i was in high school i was in high

school i was 14 in 1984 that's when i was in high or 1981 when i was in high school, I was 14 in 1984. That's when I was in high school. Or 1981, when I was in high school. And there was a 1970 Chevelle that this kid had that was in my school. And I guess he was like maybe two years older than me, so he might have been like 16. But he had this 1970 Chevelle, and everybody was like, holy shit. Look at that. It was a classic. It's a 70 Chevelle SS.

SS 396. Well, think about it. That's only 11 years old. That's only 11 years old. Like, how is a car 11 years old like a classic back then? But an 11-year-old car today, it's like, you know, it's not that big of a deal. You know, if you got a hold of a, what would that be, a 2003? A 2003 car? car yeah that's like

it's a modern car like what happened how'd that how'd that happen drop the ball something happened they might have hit like some sort of technological they're constantly pushing the boundaries as far as like this the speed that cars can go and the g forces that they can handle and like they get like their track times get a little bit better every year with their sports cars. But for the average regular car, like, at a certain point in time, what else can you improve? You can add some electronics. Did you see those road blocks that were up there? Those people, they got that road, they made those tiles that light up.

Oh, yeah, yeah, the solar road panels. Man, it's got an incredible idea. It lights the city up like Tron and stuff, and they're collecting energy in the car. And that could totally be implemented, too. Apparently, that's completely realistic. It's crazy. We're there already. We just have to get somebody to say, you know, a hike.

Do you know how weird city streets look? Imagine if you lived in the time before electricity, and then someone brought you to New York City, Times Square, Saturday night. And you're walking through and you see all these lights and all this craziness and the cars with the lights. You're like, holy shit, I can't believe this. That would be like a really intense sort of a change. But I wonder if it would be as intense as all the roads being lit all the roads being lit to us right now that might be like we might not be able to we might have to address the fact that we live in the future like if all of our fucking road we might

all collectively just go what the fuck are we doing look Look what we're doing. We have solar-powered roads. That's progress. Oh, yeah. You see, and they're not breaking down. They have alternative purposes. They're not only to drive on, but they have other information. They change. It would be so strange, though, the way it would alter our world. Our vision of the world would look totally different.

If Hong Kong was lit up with those kind of stuff, I wonder what the effect would be. I feel like it would make people more festive. More aware. I mean, you're driving out on this road already. These cars are just trying to tune yourself out because it's such a tedious process to get from point A to point B in a car. It's gray, and there's other people jammed up in there, and the speed's not what you like or whatever. So it's kind of a – the transportation transportation I think they got some room to improve on that for us you know if they if they put the phone down yeah if they put the

phone down I think the phone is helping them communicate though maybe they can use the phone to make the cars yeah this is the roadways these are the sole roadways there's a guy Zach he was over the other days on that we so we looked him up to see what he's on the Silicon Valley show or something so we don't see he's a funny guy but anyway we I want to see was the show Silicon Valley never seen the show funny show it's on HBO I've only I only watched one episode it was really funny we brought it up and there he was and he's getting the car came to pick him up and he looks in there and there's like I said oh you got in the car there's

nobody in there and he says oh yeah I'm going to wherever it was. And then the car took off. It's all by itself, driving it. Yeah, well, they're going to have that. I mean, they essentially have that now, the Google cars, where they're experimenting with it. And they haven't had any accidents. None of the accidents that they've been involved with have been the Google cars' fault. I think a few people bumped into them.

Jump out in front of them or... No, no, none of that. They haven't hit anything. But they apparently have radar. They can sense when things are in front of you. I mean, you've seen that on cars. When you get close to the car in front of you, it'll make like a beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

I rented a car this weekend that does it. They park themselves now, some cars. Yes, they can parallel park themselves. Parallel park itself, which is... Yeah, redonkulous like they just decided you motherfuckers are too stupid to do this we have to help you excellent uh this is where i want the money for my car that i'm gonna buy to be invested in the ability of it to then park itself but you know what there's a thing that's going on right now

where people are trying to go retro with a lot of shit. Because there's a lot of people that like old cars now. There's a lot of people that like refurbished things. Because they don't want all of that interference. They don't want all of that disconnect between them and an actual machine. Well, you could work on it. You're a car guy. You look under a car lid now. You're looking under there and you're going, what is under here? You can't do shit with that, son.

Is this the trunk or is the motor in here? I don't even know which side is which on this thing yet, you know? If you could pop the hood of a 1970 Chevelle, you could get in there, man. There's that. You work on it. You got a wrench out. Distributor cap. It's right there. You can grab it with your hand. There's your oil filter. You could hold on to it. There's the dipstick.

You could see how much oil's in there with a stick. Now you've got computers. You have to run it and shut it off. You've got to go down and get your guy. You have to have a guy. A guy. You have to have a guy. And the thing, your computer can go wacky on you, too.

That also can happen. That happens occasionally. Obviously, there's a mechanical breakdown, too, but computers can go wacky. That's your guy's guy. After you get a guy, then he has to have a guy say, hey, uh-oh, my stuff isn't correctly working. But on the flip side, you have navigation screens,

you have backup cameras, you have all this cool shit that electronics provide, too. I see both sides of it, but I do see the appeal of driving an old old vw bug like a vw bug from like 1970 not much horsepower or anything but man what a what a connection you have to the road with that piece of shit you know it's not good at handling it doesn't have good brakes but you know when you see one there's like a little bit you're actually driving it yeah i wish i could drive you're participating in the project my friend jimmy had one when we were in high school.

I was an idiot. I always had muscle cars. And my friend Jimmy had this VW Bug. And it was like, you know, like I said, this was right out of high school. So I graduated in 85, and Jimmy was ahead of me. And so I think that it was probably like 1986 or something along those lines. And he had this 1960-something Bug or 69 it was ugly light blue you know but it was great there was something cool about it it was like we had a big smile on our face when we were driving

around in it you know there was something about yeah first of all he's like you know a pretty macho guy and uh is a construction worker he's just really smart dude too though so he got himself a fucking vw bug he's like it gets great gas mileage like the wind would blow and the car would move like you could feel the car moving if a good breeze hit it like your fucking car is moving from the wind man like what do we do we're gonna go kart yeah they do handle better now cars oh that's that's the understatement of the year. Snowboards, too. Brakes are amazing.

I'm surprised by a brake. I had to stop from like 65 to zero on the freeway the other day, and it just was like butter. That automatic lock. Well, you have that sweet new Volkswagen. Yeah. That's like perfect. I forgot you had that. Perfect contrast to the Volkswagen that we were talking about because my friend Jimmy's Volkswagen was like super old school,

like that lawnmower engine. It sounds like a lawnmower or a sewing machine. Oh, yeah, you'd have to pump the brakes, but it was like a really light, tiny car, whereas the new one, like we were saying, looks like a fat Porsche. Yeah. It looks like some sort of a spaceship, like an Audi or something like that. The new VW Bug is pretty dope looking. Yeah. It looks like some sort of a spaceship, like an Audi or something like that. Huh. The new VW Bug is pretty dope looking. Yeah.

They pretty much redesigned it for guys and they got rid of all the girl shit in it, like the flower pots and shit like that that used to be in the old ones, like the more ones that look like bubbles. And it's a perfect example of a car that like shows the improvement of today's cars because the performance and handling

of a Vw bug is better than like a 1970 porsche if you got a porsche from 1970 those had like skinny ass steering wheels that were big like hula hoops and he had shitty ass skinny tires like they didn't handle that well they just weren't that good in comparison to like what your car could do if you brought your car back in time like when they had the 1969 porsche and you showed them your car they'd be blowing you they'd be like you're a wizard from the future yeah this is a 2014 turbo i have this car but doesn't it have like 250 horsepower or something like that they just put a new engine in it i forget what exactly they're fast like that was a big deal like to have i mean that would be a little bit um heavier than an old porsche for sure but if you

could get that kind of horsepower in an old car i mean that's ridiculous like they have these new mustangs the mustang gt the new one that's out just just a straight mustang gt has like 450 fucking horsepower or something crazy like that. They're selling that to people, huh? Oh, yeah. But that's like their basic car. Then they have a Shelby that comes out later that's going to have more than 600 horsepower. That wasn't accessible back in 1970.

There should be a place to go drive these things. Say, hey, look, we got a place you can go drive it. To get something even remotely as fast in like 1970 you had a special order shit you had to go to a mechanic you had to find some dude who knows how to put nitrous on a car but now you can just buy it weird huh how they allow people to have something like that well it's just a faction of what we're doing a faction this can can continual improvement this it's a uh a process and it's a product of those things it's a product of this continual improvement. It's a process, and it's a product of those things. It's a product of this continual improvement,

and it's a product of our constant desire for new shit. We want the car that does 0-60 in 3.4, because the car that does 0-60 in 3.6 is outdated. You look at the specs. Oh, this car went around the Nürburgring in 7 minutes

and 25 seconds. People freak out. They go, I can't believe that. My car does it in 7.40. My car is a piece of shit. You're like, asshole, you're not going around the Nürburgring. Like, what are you doing, man? Like, if you drove my friend Jimmy's VW Bug, that might make you feel better than driving some ridiculous car that goes zero to 60 in two seconds and corners at two Gs.

Where do you drive it at, though? Well, there's a certain part of that you lose the fun. There's like a fun in driving. There's a guy named Dario Franchitti, I think you say his name. He's a race car driver. And he drives his fun car to drive is like a 1973 porsche with like a big engine in it he put like a more modern engine in a 1973 porsche like he could get like a veyron or any of these like super complicated cars they're making

today but a guy who's an actual race car driver decided to go for the gritty feel of an old car combined with modern technology. He's a very smart guy. He's like, all these zero to 60 times, he goes, yes, it's important when you're race car driving, but not for the pleasure of driving. So that's the guy I listen to. Yeah. I mean, that's the guy. He does it for a living.

So if he chooses to drive an old car that you really feel everything, that's probably the most pleasurable. Got a lot of merit. Yeah, we passed the pleasurable point and went to some weird numb point with cars where the steeling's like this and you don't feel any of the bumps. It's weird. Yeah, it's not organic. Yes. It's kind of... Not organic.

It's not very Mumford & Sons. Yeah. It's not very... Yeah organic. It's not very Mumford and Sons. Yeah. It's not very... Yeah, that's the trend today. The trend today is to go with like a handmade clock. You know, like, oh, see that clock? It was handmade. And people are like, ooh.

You know, there's something cool about that as opposed to like, if you lived in 1970 and you got a digital clock, you were the pimp of the year. Like, this guy has a digital clock in his house. Look at this shit. Yeah. You go over a dude's house and he had digital alarm clock. You were the pimp of the year. Like, this guy has a digital clock in his house. Look at this shit. Yeah. You'd go over a dude's house and he had digital alarm clock. You'd be like, this motherfucker's got a

digital alarm clock. It's got the red. And it was big as a microwave oven. Red lights on it. LED. Yeah. Red. Yeah, man.

I remember going over people's houses and they had that. I couldn't believe I was looking at it. I was looking at the lights. Then it came in a watch. Yeah. The first thing you got the clock in your house and you put it on your hand. I was looking at the lights. Then it came in a watch. Yeah. The first thing you got the clock in your house and you put it on your hand.

I watched it. Pimp. 6.43. That's what people used to say. Hey, what time is it? Oh, it's 7.60. You know. And remember the batteries were such dog

shit that you had to press it to find the time and then you'd let it go and the fucking time would go by. That's right. You had to press it. It didn't just stay on let it go and the fucking time would go by that's right it didn't just stay on because it was the batteries were dog shit back then you know if it was going to stay on it would have to be like a foot yeah the battery for that back then yeah i mean the batteries were just dog

shit i never thought about that i mean those were it's remember the calculator watch yeah for some reason that one never took off. It took off and it got to a certain point and people were like, wait, wait, wait. How often am I counting shit? Who is this for? They got the calculator phone now. Your phone is kind of a computer.

That's a one device choice. You're better off with a compass. What if you get lost and all you got is a fucking calculator, bitch? Calculator's not going to help you if you're lost in the woods. Boy, yeah. You have something that makes them fire. Why do you got a fucking calculator on that? Let's put not that as our first development here.

And it's also the calculator watch was invented with calculators were only like that big. I mean, what the fuck are you doing? How often is that coming up? Except this is the one thing that I know people are probably yelling at me right now except people cheating in school i bet there was a window i bet there was a small window where teachers are still fucking old people who are they're they're out of touch with modern technology in a lot of ways so there's probably a window where these young little rascals went in there with their technological wizard phones with calculators on

and they probably i I remember doing that. Totally doing that. How long was it before they were made illegal? Do you remember that? I don't think they ever really were. I don't think they ever actually caught on because you were always allowed to use calculators to cheat in school. There was those big TI-81 Texas Instrument ones that you had to buy.

Remember those huge calculators? There was a note field kind of where you could just sit there and write all these answers to questions in the calculator. And the teachers never caught on for us on that. Everyone would open up their calculators and look at our notes on their calculators. Oh, no. That's hilarious.

So it was like a note function on a smartphone. Yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. It was. It was like the beginning of that. But I remember calculator watches. We had them, and I don't ever remember being told not to wear it like i don't think the even the math teachers even figured it out well let's let's google that to find out because i

would think that the only way to get good at math if you're going to really get good at math is you have to actually do it right i mean yeah math is something that's fun to do i mean i think english is terrible okay you just lost all credibility. You don't like the math? I don't know who you are and what you just said. I like it because it's like always the same way. Two plus two is always four. Oh, calculator watch. The spelling is terrible.

Yeah, but then you start getting into triangles and shit. Who needs that? Well, that's specialized mathematical. That's all that I care about. So you just like addition math. I care about the math that's like Harry Potter science. Like those guys. The quantum.

The quantum. Deep into the quantum consciousness. I like those guys that say shit that I can't understand at all. I love when they're talking that kind of math. When they show me those mathematical computations, and you just go, what? Is that an alien language? Like, what is that? I have no idea what that is.

Those guys fascinate me the most. They see that there's a cartoon where they're all looking at that. There's a big formula on the chalkboard or whatever. And they're going, ha, ha, ha, ha, because there's humor somewhere. And there was the joke in the formula that a regular person's not going to, it's not funny, you know? Joe, do you remember Glacier? I think they're called Glacier glasses. They were out around the same time. They were like circle glasses, but then they had out around the same time they were like like circle glasses

but then they had this little leather piece that went on the side and then like the Arms were like made out of rubber and they're really popular for like two years in the early 80s And they were like I missed that I didn't hang out with any of those people Look at Google calculator watch man. It's actually pretty trippy. They came out with one in 1975, man. Isn't that nuts? Yeah, I had one in the early 80s. Calculator Watch were first introduced in the 1970s, and despite enjoying a heyday during the 1980s,

continued to be produced. The most notable brand is Casio Data Bank Series. The watches by Timex were also popular. There's a Wikipedia. But Brian, there's a Wikipedia where you can see all the old ones. It's a trip, man. It's really fascinating. Like, I forgot how silly these things were.

Oh, yeah. Look at those. Well, look at the one down. Look at the one even further down. Look at that thing. How do you get your finger on one of those buttons? I don't remember that at all. I don't remember that at those. Well, look at the one down. Look at the one even further down. Look at that thing. How do you get your finger on one of those buttons? I don't remember that at all. What do you got to get a little?

I don't remember that at all, but that is the future, man. If you had one of those, you could totally get Star Wars chicks. I think I had this one. Chicks that are really into Star Wars, they would think you were so cool. He's got a fucking calculator on his wrist. That's so ridiculous. It's so future. It's so future. It's so space.

Yeah, that didn't work out. We didn't give a fuck anymore. Now people went back to dials, you know? Like if your car is fancy, your car has an old school clock on it. Like if you buy a Lexus or something like that, they'll have like a nice clock in it. With a second hand and stuff? Yeah, and it's to show you this is a luxury item, sir. There's no digital clocks in here, sir.

This is a luxury item. Isn't it just a thing that tells the time? Like, what the fuck's going on here? Something's going on here. If you have a TikTok, TikTok, TikTok, it's fancy. See this? This is fancy. This is fancy.

I can't hear it. this is how I know what time we're at I don't look at my computer go away your digital numbers, your exact numbers I like looking at a little fancy clock I don't know what's in there I got that shit at Target

I don't know what it is it's just a clock but I like looking at a clock for whatever reason it gives me a better sense of what time is than when I look at a number. When I look at numbers, and it's totally illogical, but I look at this number on my computer, the upper right-hand corner of my computer, and then I look at that.

That's more pleasurable to me for whatever reason. That's an interesting evaluation. I think I have a more natural sense of what time is. It's kind of an analog thing. You know the way analog is better than tape too? You listen into recordings and so forth like that. A lot of times it used to record in analog and then

when the digital came out, then what they would do is they'll go analog, digital, and then back to analog to try to mix this stuff up to where it sounds. I fully understand that for some folks it's the opposite. Some folks, they don't like that. That's not pleasing to them, but they love the numbers.

I mean, it's all different. It's just me personally. That's how I always feel when I would way rather look at like a, I think clocks are kind of cool. Whenever I look at a watch, part of me goes, oh, that's a cool looking watch. The other part of me instantaneously goes, it is so goddamn fascinating. There's a bunch of moving parts in there. Amazing. That spin and

I'm not a fan of expensive watches. I mean, I think some of them look really cool, but it's not something that I'm really into because they seem to me like peacock feathers a little bit. What I am a fan of is the engineering behind those watches. I'm a fan of, my watch behind those watches. I'm a fan of, like, my watch is not a, it's just not an expensive watch at all.

But at nighttime, it kind of glows. I can see the hand very clearly at nighttime. That's a good feature. It's a fantastic feature. It doesn't require a battery to do that either. Or it doesn't run on any extra, you know, something like a thing you have to do, press a button or anything. You can always see it. But I'm fascinated by that. I'm fascinated by the engineering involved in it but i think for a lot of guys they were and i'm not criticizing they look cool as fuck but it

seems very kind of peacocky you know when dudes have like diamonds all over their watch and you know diamonds and their thing and my buddy collects watches he just he's showing me a watch cool thirty six thousand dollars for it's a watch i They're cool. $36,000 for a watch. I was looking at it going, oh, man. I met a guy that had one in Toronto. I think it was more than $100,000. Yeah. I'm trying to remember.

He owned a company that imports them. Very, very nice guy. Well, see, he loves watches. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's people that are into collecting watches. And they're very matter-of-fact about their watches. They say, oh, this is a Hamilton have a it's like cars yeah and watches are another quality you know like a good watch you like you said it's swiss engineer it's uh it's a piece of stuff that that lasts yeah it's not a piece of junk that's disposable you get a piece of quality

you know it's a watch and it's got a lot of work put into it, and it's something you'll have forever. And I like that and stuff. Electronics probably have the quickest turnaround as far as when they kind of go on you. I've never had a computer last more than five years, but I've had watches that last like 20 years. I have a watch that's 20 years old.

Yeah, it's 20 years old. People got their grandfathers' watch. It's not expensive either. It's just a regular watch. And it's like... When my battery dies, I just buy a new watch. Yeah, I mean, you can totally do that. You can put another battery in that watch.

You buy a new watch, you said? Yeah, every time the battery dies, I'm just like, I'll just get a new watch. Bic is the one that did that to us. They started the lighter, you throw it out. Then they got the shaver, you throw it out.

Then, what was the other thing? Pen, you throw it out. Remember that? It was all Bic. Bic started with the throwaway stuff

and then now, it's like the phone goes down, you throw it out. The TV goes out, you throw it out. Anything goes out, you throw it out. I mean,

yeah, we should really reevaluate that whole throwing out plastic shit you see all the plastic that's in the ocean and all these photographs of these birds

that have been feeding plastics to their babies and their babies die and you see that their bellies are filled with plastics you know what's fucking shit up lately

is these those facial cleaners that have the little beads in them just these tiny little plastic beads I guess they're fucking up the water. Yeah, they're not biodegradable, those things.

They're scrubs. And you know what? They don't need to use those scrubs. You can use seeds. There's seeds that you can get, like apricot facial scrub. It's an apricot seed. And it's just as good, and it's biodegradable. Like all these little plastic things.

It's unfortunate, man, but a lot of that, oh, those were goggles? Remember those glasses? I do not. I remember having my calculator watching these glasses were really popular. They were called something also like douchebag

Google glasses. There was a guy who wore them in Stargate or something. Something like that. Richard Dean. Maybe. They had leather

on the glasses. It was like that and then your cars had bras on them. It was like we had this weird leather. Oh, yeah. You remember the bras. It was like that, and then your cars had bras on them. It was like we had this weird leather. Oh, yeah, you remember the bras? We should bring that back. Bro, I think some people still do it, man.

I saw a guy with a Corvette the other day. He had a bra on the Corvette. I was like, wow, you're rocking a bra on your Corvette. It was an old Corvette. It wasn't real leather, though, was it? I don't know. I didn't ask. He said simulated stuff.

That's a can of worms you don't really want to open up yeah you know is that real leather i had a supra i had a bra on my super of course not that was the shit yeah i think i had a bra once but i think i got rid of it pretty quickly i was like what is this stupid fucking thing what am i doing here that's what i'm saying there was a weird time in the 80s that that the leather like there was no reason to have leather on you like look at the big chunks of leather on your glasses well i guess the ideas that the leather, there was no reason to have leather on you. Look at the big chunks of leather on your glasses. Well, I guess the idea is that you want something soft that

doesn't take light in from the sides. But that would also fuck up your peripheral and make you very susceptible to hooks. Yeah. They should bring back the plastic covering for the couches. Now that was... That was a dream. That was a dream

when people, you go over their house and it was covered with clear plastic. You sit down, it's your grandma's house. How ridiculous is that? Everyone wanted to keep things...

Saving them. ...for so long that they never enjoyed them when they had them. Because shit wasn't disposable. That's amazing. You come in there and the mom's telling you,

hey, you can't walk in that room. It's all this way or that. You know, you go, oh, okay. Some people still have towels like that. You're not supposed to use those towels. Soaps? Get them out of here.

You put those little soaps in the bathroom. Fucking towels. Oh, you didn't use the apple soap they do there, the little frog that was there? Yeah. How could you do that? Yeah, what? You guys are freaks. Yeah, the towel is there.

Your bathroom is for freaks. It's a prop. Go to the doctor. You know, it's a prop. Oh, you've been messing with the bathroom props in here, you know? Yeah, they're trying to paint some sort of a crazy environment.

The Cleaver... What was her name? What was Miss Cleaver's name? Judy Cleaver? I don't remember. It was Ward. Ward. Ward was the daddy. June, was it June? What was Mrs. Cleaver's name? Wasn't she the best? Barbara Billingsley, the daddy. June, was it June? June? Was it June? It was Mrs. Cleaver's name. Wasn't she the best?

Barbara Billingsley, I think. Yeah. Okay, June Cleaver. I think it was her name. I think you're right. Yeah. Remember Eddie Haskell? I remember Eddie Haskell.

Yeah, it was June Cleaver. She was wonderful. What a crazy fucking show. Can you imagine that there's a show that they made, and it's called Leave It to Beaver? And it was an actual show, and the kid's name was Beaver. And at what point in time did they realize that that means pussy? Was it like, it started in the 1950s, right? So, what, you know, first appearance was, it was a pilot that they made in 1957.

So when did Beaver become, when did it become a vagina? Was that the 70s, you think? I don't know. Maybe that because everyone thought beaver was just a pussy, and so they just put it together. Because he played it like a pussy character. You know, beaver was always getting beat up. It wasn't a savage. Yeah. I thought it was because of

his teeth or something. I thought he had like a beaver facial look or something. Hmm. Maybe. I don beaver facial look or something. Hmm. Maybe. I don't know. Really? Yeah. This thing they do now, I really can't stand.

Like they named it after the kid? His teeth or something? A beaver? I don't know. I don't think so. How's the beaver? No. How did they call him the beave?

Where did that come from? I think that was just his nickname. Yeah. But I mean, how did he get it? What did they say? Oh, you smell bad or what? I don't know. Well, they lived in a time before the internet.

It looks like it was a slang term from the 1910 England. Have you ever tried to watch that? You ever tried to watch Leave it to Beaver? I grew up on it. Look, we can get back to isolation tank talk in a couple minutes. We have plenty of time here, ladies and gentlemen. But seeing as how we're in the flow of this, I would like to watch a little quick Leave it to Beaver episode

just to see how ridiculous the world was in 1957. Let me look up one real quick. Even the opening, when they have their house and it's all nice. What about Dennis the Menace? Remember Mr. Wilson? He was over there and he was like, oh, Dennis, you Menace, or whatever he said.

Gee, Mr. Wilson? Yeah. The way they used to talk to each other was so alien. People hadn't figured out television yet. They hadn't figured out how other people were going to perceive them. There was a slow change where people recognized bullshit, and they were allowed to do less and less of it.

And if you go back and you watch Father Knows Best, here it is. Yes, Mom. Oh, Beaver, I see you're home. Yes, Dad. This is me that's home. How was the movie? Well, I see you're home. Yes, Dad. This is me that's home. How was the movie? Well, I didn't go to the movie. You didn't go to the movie?

No, sir. I went yesterday when I wasn't supposed to. Oh, is that so? Yes, sir. And I won a racing bicycle to guarantee the other seat. And I hit it at Larry's. And I was going to make believe like I won it today, but I couldn't, so that's why I'm telling you what happened.

Well, when did you decide to tell us about it? When I was walking the bike home from Larry's. Yeah, Dad, it's too big for him to ride. Hilarious. Well, Beaver, I'm glad you decided to tell us the truth. Of course, you realize you can't keep a bicycle you won while you were being disobedient. We'll have to find something to do with the bike. What a dick.

Dad's a dick. The kid came clean. Let him keep the bike, Dad. Let him have the bike. What kind of fucking lessons are you teaching him? This is bullshit. He didn't do anything illegal. Yeah.

No, he came forward and told him what the story was. That's the kind of stuff that the kids now say, Oh, I'm afraid to go tell Pop because he's going to take my bike away. See, that's some 1957 type of psychology. In 2014, I think they would say the best way to make this go away or to make it never happen again is to reward him with the bike, to reward him and say, look, you did a good job by telling me. In the future, you'd benefit much more from just doing what I tell you.

In the beginning. Don't be lying, bitch. Yeah. Go ride your bike. And then he thinks dad's cool. Right. Not dad's some dick who's going to take my fucking lawfully run bike. Yeah.

He won the bike. I mean, that was a bad example. God damn it, dad. I thought this was going to be good stuff. Yeah. Well, it was good stuff. That was a bummer, man. I didn't like it.

It was a bummer. I love the word bummer. I haven't heard that in a while. Yeah. It is a bummer. Yeah. Well, it's 1957 logic. They just weren't that good at TV yet.

They didn't understand how it was coming off to other people. We just watched that. It looked so ridiculous, right? It doesn't look real at all. Well, let's watch Mr. Ed. You got that one? You want to watch a horse talk to somebody? No, I can't.

I can't anymore. Let's go back to isolation time. It was a freaky time in television. But it's indicative of this thing that I think we're experiencing, this thing that everything is constantly improving, and one of the best ways to see that improvement. If you wanted to determine the age of a tree, you would chop the tree down and you'd look at the rings of the tree.

I think if you wanted to determine the progress of our culture in terms of the rings on a tree, like in that sort of a way, there's no better way to do it than to go back and look at the sections of our media. Go back and look at like the $6 million man, you know, go back and look at the fall guy, go back and look at, you know, the incredible Hulk, go back and look at, you know, the evolution of TV. Yeah.

Dallas, you know, watch old television, watch the. Yeah, Dallas. You know, watch old television. Watch the Dukes of Hazzard. Watch old television shows. And then go back to Leave it to Beaver. Go back to this shit. Go back to this craziness that we're watching. And then realize, like, whoa, there's like this weird steady progression up to X-Files and then, you know, Game of Thrones. The media has improved.

Like, it's a totally different organism. The type of shows you see, if you watch a modern-day episode of Game of Thrones, there's not a film that was made in the 1960s that could compare to that. I think Stanley Kubrick was a genius. I think 2000 West Base Odyssey was a marvel of cinema for the time. But it can't fuck with what they have now on TV.

HP, like game of Thrones is one of the best movies of all time. And it's like 10 hours every season. It's madness. Like 7 million. It was a 4 million. What's the cost on that? I don't know. It's got to be expensive as fuck.

It's perfect. It's a fuck. It's a perfect show and my point being if you try to compare game of thrones to father knows best it's insane it's hard to believe that these are made for the same organism and yet it it occupied the same amount of time of a person's interest yes this is how hard it's gotten to hold somebody's interest now i don't think it's that i think it's a continual improvement of in the understanding of human beings and i think it takes something really intense to rattle us now it takes

like a true detective it takes like it's you can't just have a normal relationship like bridges of madison county get the fuck out of here clint what are you doing like what are you doing you're hanging out with this chick you guys are drama You know, you don't have much time left. Why are you crying? Get out of there. Go have a drink. Get out of here. Stop.

This is nothing. Meanwhile, you watch Game of Thrones. There's fucking dragons, okay? There's these white walkers. People are sword fighting in the middle of the night. I love those white walkers. Oh, it's mad. The fucking...

I like the dragons. How about the giants? Yeah, giants were great. It's a madness show. I love that stuff. Crazy shit is happening. Crazy stuff. What the humans do to each other is so shocking.

And if you tried to watch Magnum P.I. after that, you'd be like, come on, man. The world has changed. We've gotten a much deeper understanding of what really freaks people out. And we require that to get freaked out today's trolls today's youtube trolls could start wars in the 1940s if you could send those guys back in time like the really sophisticated trolls the ones where you read their twitter account you could barely even tell if they're trolling they're just so and then you watch like some of the arguments they get into oh this guy's an artist i don't

know what that is. Trolling is, say, if somebody wanted to reach out to you. I should probably not tell you. Trolls would get mad. Like, what the fuck? We got a fresh one. We got a live one. They're not going to call me out.

It's not a call you out thing. They would contact you in some sort of a way, either insulting you and trying to get you to respond to them, or mockingly in love with you to try to get you to respond to them or mockingly in love with you to try to get you to respond to them and then turn on you. They would try to pretend that they were outraged about certain specific issues just to get a rise out of you. Try to engage you in just as a game. There's the people now that have, there's a group of folks that do that kind of stuff?

It's a sport. It's a sport, huh? It is kind of a sport. You know, if you can get a good one on the line you know oh i've been gotten on the line before it's hilarious do they get you yeah i get i've been gotten arguments with people before and you realize like what am i i don't even know you like what am i doing and you it takes a lot of time to realize that because the internet is a new thing. And interacting with people on the Internet has been around 10 years. They probably study your buttons too. They say, oh, say something like that.

You see what he does when you say that. The longest people were interacting on the Internet like this, like in this sort of instantaneous Twitter-type comments or YouTube-type comments, it hasn't been more than a decade. This is a new thing. This is a new thing for people. So people who like to get a rise out of people if you can't do it at work especially if you're stuck at a job that sucks and you have no means of expression of the evil inside you you go on those that's i wonder why does the people watch these videos and then say

that like with hamilton they watch the video there and then their comics. Hamilton Morris? Yeah. Hamilton Morris, we owe him an apology. When that podcast was made, we both got way too high. Brian and I got him. We took him to the center of the earth. I just watched

that this morning. We took him to Mordor. We had this weed that was grown on Pluto and came over here in a time capsule. I don't know where we got that shit from. Whose was that? I don't remember. Well, you didn't have to twist his arm. Well, the thing is, we were there with Hamilton Morris, who is the psychedelic connoisseur.

That's what I heard. So we went to the bottom of the swimming pool and fucking set up a picnic table. I mean, we went deep. It was rough, man. I don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Half the time we were in a conversation, we were like seven, eight hits in of some insane sativa. And there was no way we should have been having a conversation in a podcast. No way.

We were just, we were way too barbecued. It turned out okay. It was not bad. No, it wasn't bad. The interaction with him and the tank was better. The whole thing, you know. But the comments were evil?

Well, you know, even on some of these other ones you read and they say, oh, you know, this or that or this guy, they're trying to

make an assumption, you know, an evaluation about somebody they don't know anything about and the fact that you just spent your time overviewing what it is they just did

and now you're going to be mean-spirited about it? Right. Why don't you just don't do it? Just don't look. Yeah. But you find that... I didn't know these are these kind of cats that that's what they're up to,

these trolls that they... Those trolls. They enjoy making... Getting a rise out of people, which is a bummer when you don't have a lot of time to get... Because you're trying to get through life without as little of these, you know, infractions as possible. So you can keep your mind in a positive, you know, format.

And then somebody saying something mean or ugly about you and you're reading it and you're going, oh, man, I wish that that didn't get said about me, you know? Right. But I think there's a benefit to it though. I think there's a benefit to interacting with negative people is that you understand that there are negative people out there. Because if you don't interact with them on a regular basis, I don't think you'll appreciate the positive people as much. I think that's just the weird aspect of human beings.

We get accustomed to whatever. We get accustomed to all sorts of things that seem unacceptable. Like if you look at the things and customs that people carry on in other countries, there's certain rites of passage for manhood that if you try to implement today in the united states like the weird shit that they do in africa where they're circumcising each other with sharp sticks and they have to go crawl through thorn bushes naked like there's a bunch of crazy shit they make these guys do and if you try to implement that stuff in america today we would laugh at you but to them like this is how they've done it this is how they've done it for a long time and people get used to all sorts of weird shit so they I think a lot of people have

gotten used to something that just it rages against their sensibilities and it rages against their body rages against their sensibilities because they've somehow or another committed themselves to a safe job that is not inspiring. And they think that maybe if they just waited a little while or thought about it better, they could have eventually figured out how to do what they actually want to do. And when you run into someone who, who has done that, then you see the benefit of it and it fucks with people's heads you know and i think there's a lot of people that live a life of regret and bitter super unfortunate you know and i think the way our society is structured currently i don't i don't see that changing anytime soon it just seems like so many people are rushing out to enter into the workforce because the economy is not so good, so everybody's scrapping for jobs, and they're willing to take jobs they might not have ordinarily taken because they want the security of it.

It's a very trying time for a lot of people. But if you could figure out a way to separate on your own, you know, selling coffee mugs or fucking figuring something out, damn, you'll be so much better off. Well, it allows you to be more independent in your ability to provide for yourself. If you can figure out something you can do, what I find to be a little bit discouraging

is the lack of interest in manufacturing products. And then, see, this country used to be, like I say, really have a lot of pride in craftsmanship uh, craftsmanship. So we still have a talent pool here. We have a lot of creative people. We have a lot of, uh, you know, intelligent people. We need to pull these people together and get back into manufacturing our own products here. Yeah. That's what I believe would be a good thing, to get kids. They took auto shop out of the school, I think. I don't think they do the welding anymore in school, wood shop.

I don't know what they do in school. A lot of schools don't. A lot of schools don't have that anymore. There's a lot of liability issues with those things too. Really? Wood shop anymore? I don't think it's very common. It's not something they teach kids how to use a hammer.

You go to school, you should teach a kid how to work a hammer, a saw. Well, I think this ebb and flow that we were talking about with technology and that people, some folks are kind of bouncing back the other way and looking towards mechanical things and being in love with mechanical things. I think that also is going to be said about working for big companies. But I think that a lot of these people are going to get this feeling of, you know, like, man, I'm just lost in the sea of people whereas i can make kitchen knives i can make handmade kitchen knives in my garage over the weekend start selling them and then one day or

another eventually break through i got a website from squarespace and i put together this fucking knife collection and now i'm selling them online and now I'm independent. And this cook is using them on TV. Chef Luigi's endorsed my knife. No, you don't want that shit. You want some handmade, like there's a company, there's a couple companies that have sent me Kestrel knives and Viemint knives. And there are companies that did the exact same thing.

They just started making knives and started selling them. They were into knives. They loved the beauty of the construction of the knives. Viemint knife, they made me this fucking big, crazy, cool thing. They just started making knives and started selling them. They were into knives. They loved the beauty of the construction of the knives. Viamint Knife, they made me this fucking big, crazy, cool thing. It's like all the handles all handmade. And when, you know, you see that someone can make a living doing that. And like when you're chopping onions with something like that, or you're doing something in the kitchen or you're, you know, using it for camping or hunting or something like that. It's like, you're feeling like you have a piece of craftsmanship with you. Awesome. I love that. What is that? What is that. It's like, you're feeling like you have a piece of craftsmanship with you.

Awesome. Yeah. I love that. What is that? Right. What is that? Is it like a connection to the person who made it? Right.

Yeah. Like a more obvious connection. Absolutely. Like if you had a handmade, like my friend Ari went to China, he had a handmade suit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking handmade suit.

It fits perfect, man. Yeah. That's me. And a guy made it. Like that's, there's something extra jazzy about the fact that you've, you know, that a guy made this for you. Like it feels good. That's me. And a guy made it. There's something extra jazzy about the fact that you know that a guy made this for you. It feels good. That's right. He took your proportions into consideration.

Because you're six feet tall, that doesn't mean that your knees are bending here or your stride is this or that. And he's an artisan. I mean, he's an artisan. He creates a beautiful suit. It's a work of art. He gets a pleasure out of that. See, that's back to that feeling of accomplishment. You could feel like by making stuff, I feel good about that. Like what we do with the chambers.

We really put a lot of effort into the manufacturing of them and the products that we use. The parts, all of them, not that there's anything wrong with whatever. We use no cheap parts. There's nothing made in China, not that there's anything wrong with whatever. We use no cheap parts. There's nothing made in China. Not that there's anything wrong with made in China, but we don't buy anything that's used in China for our stuff at all. It's all either made here or North America somewhere. We have a few European parts from Germany and Switzerland,

but the rest of it's all made here in America because of the quality. We insist upon getting the best pieces. Now, as the guy you spoke about, Lilly, John Lilly, that invented these chambers in the beginning. His Dockerton was the Dockerton or whatever it is. His perspective was that it was always better to buy or to implement or use the better quality piece of equipment then to create this, what it is that it is. And that is, you know, so I agree with that so much that the better it is, the better it is.

Just saying, oh, you can get away with it. Oh, we could do it this way. It's cheaper. Or, you know, I find if you could figure out the best way to do things, that's the way to do it. First class. You got first class or no class. You know what I mean? These people come up with this thing. Oh, it's a – this is why I used to mix sound, right? I do monitors, mix the stage.

So somebody said, hey, how is it? I said, oh, it's okay. Pretty good. I said, no, no, no. We don't do pretty good. We don't do okay. We get it just the way you want. I'm going to have that in a second for you.

You just communicate with me, and we'll have it just exactly the way you want that not a problem right well that's like many aspects of life there's some people that are happily half-assing things yeah just happily getting to the end of the day and it's slunk over you know slumped over and just tired and and then there's other folks like you who are fucking crazy, who figure out a way to invest an incredible amount of time to try to renovate and reinvigorate this business that had kind of been forgotten about. I mean, when you came along,

there was like Samadhi Tanks, and then there was a couple other ones that you could kind of find online that were made in Europe. In Europe, it had a little bit more popularity in europe that uh pathfinder and then they had uh let's see oasis has been around since from the beginning why was it more popular in europe than it was in america you know uh any ideas you know they were you know i really don't know to be honest with you. It still wasn't popular.

I mean, it's still way more popular even now overseas. Like, I get letters all the time from, there's a new place that opened up in London, and I believe there's one in Manchester that opened up, and I get messages from those guys all the time. So I know they're opening up new ones. So it's not like it's already there and established. Well, that's what we were talking about earlier a little bit. You know. On the way over here, we had a chance to have a little brief discussion about the future in the industry there.

I got a chance to show you some of these rules and regulations now that have been pinned up by the various health agencies, NSF, National Sanitization Foundation. Well, just explain that to people. There's home tanks and then there's commercial tanks. And, you know, people always, when I tell them, hey, you should go to the float lab and get in a tank, they go, wait a minute, somebody's been in that tank before me?

That is a very good question. And that is a question that, up until now, hasn't been, like like completely thoroughly examined. And your tanks, like when people come over my house, one of the things they always look at is like the back of the tank where all the equipment is set up. And they go, what the fuck is all that? And I go, well, that one does ozone.

These ones are filters. And like, is that overkill? I'm like, I don't know what overkill is. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not, all I know is the tank is awesome. Crash makes the best tanks. If he says it should be like this, then it probably should be like this. But when you talk to people that have other tanks, they go, dude, I got like a little fucking spa pump.

I got a little spa pump that's about the size of a basketball, and that's it. And you got like a JPL fucking setup back there with digital this and fucking control panel. It's more and more complicated as we get more and more involved with the authorities, like UL. Yes, and UL is what? Underwriters Laboratory. They do all electrical certification for any kind of stuff like this. These people... Like what had happened to mine, where mine

shorted out, is fairly common. I showed you the email, too, about this and that. These electrical issues. Well, you got an email without naming anybody. There was another manufacturer that makes pods, and his pod melted. Into oblivion. Yeah, he made some sort of a thing,

and it just fucking fell apart. There's awesome ones out there. We don't want to sling mud or anything, but at the point. For home use, it's a different thing. And a lot of these people are taking these home use ones, and they're using them for these commercial places. all these different people are going in there and who knows if they're jerking off some of them probably let's be honest uh and where's that going you know it's

like how are you going through your little spa filter that's not enough for me man yeah exactly yeah there's a video this is the video that brian made air is where the water is it doesn't feel yeah it was all the shit that i've already areas and where the water is it doesn't feel yeah it wasn't all the shit that i've already said before i mean earlier in this podcast your voice sounds so different that was before i got my nose fixed why and then on top of that you can't hear anything because your ears are underwater your face is floating above the water but your ears are okay we already said all this stuff but you can watch the video and you can kind of see it yeah my nose um when i got my nose opened up,

it changed my voice a little bit. That's crazy. But I can breathe out of my nose now. Yay. All right. For all my life, dude, I had no nose. My nose was a useless piece of shit. It was just bad cartilage and scar tissue in there.

But now, beautiful. Now I can smell when Brian's been smoking cigarettes, too. Busted. Smelling from a mile away. But now, beautiful. Now I can smell when Brian's been smoking cigarettes too. Busted. Smelling from a mile away. This motherfucker. So that is, that's the tank from, what is that video from,

Brian? What year was this? Wow, that's a good question. It's been a while. 2009 maybe? Is it really that recent? I think it's been

more than that. Maybe, I don't know. Because this was tank number one. Yeah, that's a number. That's how it's facing.

Yeah, this is like another, so we're like 12 steps from that. You know was tank number one. Yeah, that's a number. That's how well it's facing. Yeah, this is another. So we're like 12 steps from that. You know, Joe, we wanted to get over and switch it out for him because he deserves to have a more updated version. He was okay with everything. But once again, okay is not good. I don't want to hear okay.

That's not okay with me. Even if it's okay with you, still not okay with me. We're so happy to be able to get you up to speed. We still have some steps to go for you, though, too. What are the steps? Well, this is the previous version now of what we have. So as time goes by. Well, the one I have now is even bigger than the one that's in goes by well the one i have now is even bigger

than the one that's in that video the one i have now is this weird fucking meat locker beautiful it's we're working on seven feet tall and put some salt in it i mean it's more than seven feet tall and i don't know how many feet wide was it six six seven and eight i think is what it is and that's a uh that's a great chamber there. It's good as you're using it. See, people, that's the first thing that, you know, oh, you know, I joined the gym. You know, what is that? You've got to go to the gym.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Does it get a membership? Oh, whoa, you know. Some of these people sit in their house, and they don't use it. You know what I mean? People need, yeah, it's hard,

but people need something to, like, jolt them out of their normal everyday routine. They need something to jolt them. And they'll try one day. Like today I'm going to go to the gym. And they work out and the next day it's like, yeah, fuck it. They just, for whatever reason, it didn't catch fire. But they want to improve. You know, and that's the first step.

But the actually doing things. People, a lot of folks, they discuss a lot of stuff. They read about other people, all these things. And instead of actually sit down and say, okay, what can I actually do today to make me do something that is of a value? Rather than, you know, the criticizing of other people is really, this doesn't really help so much. Well, it's fun, help so much, you know.

Well, it's fun though. It's fun. I love to do it. Criticizing of other people is oftentimes a good sense of a source of entertainment. It's an output too. You say, oh man, I can't, you know. But you have to be careful of criticizing too much or getting only into the vein of criticism. Like consistently, constantly,

like people that are smart can oftentimes make poor choices or dumb choices. And I think one of the dumb choices that a lot of smart people make is to like consistently and constantly look for the negative in things. Consistently and constantly. There's a lot of things you can focus on.

The negatives of things are always going to exist. You're not stupid. You see them. But to constantly and consistently like only rally against dumb things in pop culture over and over again. At a certain point in time, I have to go, listen, we see it. We see it too.

You're just angry about it? That doesn't help anybody. Either be funny or shut the fuck up because we see it's dumb too. And it's not... The funny part is best. If someone instead sort of added, you know, to the good part of our culture, you know, added, you know, come up with something that's entertaining. Come up with something that taps into what people would like to be getting. Here, there's more in this one if that one's empty. Oh, all right.

I don't know. Either way. Here. Thank you, my friend. You're welcome. I just think one of the things that the tank provides is this sort of introspective moment that I think a lot of folks are missing. And sometimes people get caught in patterns. And you can get caught up in a pattern of negativity. You can get caught up in a pattern of depression.

You can get caught up in a pattern of regret. You can get caught up in a pattern of friendships, of kindness. You can get caught up in a pattern of friendships, of kindness. You can get caught up in a pattern of affection. You can get into good patterns too. You just have to reject the bad ones when they come along. Don't indulge. And be ready for those changes. Make sure that that's where the chamber is. Be self-aware. You go in there and you got to look at yourself. When I first started doing it, I got in and I didn't even know what it was or whatever, but I would be in for an hour every day. I would go in there and just beat myself up because I was a damaged goods, you know?

No way. Crash? I'm not buying it. Yeah. Once upon a time. I think you're being modest, sir. Oh, well, I would, anyway. But getting in there every day for me for one hour in the beginning, see, I didn't even know what it was, but I knew that that's what I was supposed to do. So I'm in there, and I beat myself up. I'd come out

of there, I'd be beaten up, and I'd get out, and I'd go, wow, I feel pretty good. I could sit down, and I used to have a PA out there. It was in a ranch. I had a ranch and a big screen and everything. But I would come in there, and I always need people around me and stimulation and stuff. But I'd get out of that chamber, I'd come in

all by myself and sit down and not turn nothing on and just sit there and feel actually relaxed without use of drugs. You know, I'm reliant on, you know, certain things in the past to make me feel different ways, you know, but the chamber now, it was able to affect the way I felt as a matter of factly without the use of any kind of additives. And when I learned about that, that's quite impressive. It's quite a game changer. You know, you now have a window into yourself.

You can now go in and look at you and see what that is and then say, hey, woo, look at that, what that is over. Same thing because you're aware of what you are and who you are, what you did and where you've been and whatnot like that. But you have to be willing to, you know, admit to all that, surrender, whatever. And then pick yourself up and start to use what it is that you're able to figure out about what to do from here. Exactly. And stand by it. Don't compromise. And the tank tells you that.

Like, I mean, the experience sort of. Introduces you to yourself. Yeah. And there you are in this box and you realize there's two parts of me. There's this thing inside of me that apparently has better information. And then there's this thing outside that wants to get high or goes to go see chicks or do whatever you're going to want to do. You go out and blah, blah, blah.

You eat too much. People do different things, you know. Gamble. Gambling. This is all kinds of stuff. Smoking cigarettes. And we get a hit from that, you know. Booze.

You know, but the effect that these things have. See, what they do is they they'll alter your perspective of yourself. Sometimes you have these, some of these people are drunk and they're all like, la, la, la, la, la. And they're really, it kind of gives them an impression that they're more happy to be around or something. Drunker they get, the stupider they seem to be. But they don't seem to evaluate themselves from that perspective. They think they're more fun or something. Yeah, self-evaluation is one of the hardest things to do, right?

It's one of the hardest things for a person to do, to step away from whatever inaccuracies they've been telling themselves to make themselves feel better about their life or their situation. And then to force yourself to go, you know, this is not right this is this and society has an influence on you as well you because you don't want to look to like you're saying you know I can remember certainly want to get into this if start talking about certain things and people go oh you know I don't want to talk about that or anything so you got to have a it's good to work on yourself this I'm big on the selfishism I think what do you what are you saying though about people not want you to talk So you got to have a, it's good to work on yourself. I'm big on the selfishism. What are you saying, though, about people not wanting you to talk about certain things?

Like what kind of things? Well. Like conspiracy theories? Yeah, stuff like that. You know, kind of a negative thing. Because when I was, you know, in Vegas, the same place. And the guy, we're loading the show in, right? And the truck driver goes, oh, there's the chem planes.

I go, what? He goes, yeah, look at that. And I go, oh, my, I couldn't believe it, there's the chemplanes. I go, what? He goes, yeah, look at that. And I go, oh, my. I couldn't believe it. There's airplanes spraying us, man. I go, unbelievable. So I was damaged goods from that.

That messed me up for years. And he said he quit telling people about it because he's driving a truck. They go, oh, yeah, take another hit on the crack pipe. Meanwhile, there it is right in front of you. Yeah. He should stop telling people about it. And you should just go on Google and find out what it actually is. Then there was nothing. This is like 15 years ago.

Well, it's not chemtrails. See, this is where people are really confused. It's just airplanes create artificial clouds and hazy environments. If an airplane is going through the atmosphere and there's a certain amount of condensation, it creates an artificial cloud. It just does. The jet engine. I mean, you should look into this more than anybody because you've talked to me about this before,

and I know that you probably have these ideas in your head about the government spraying things in the sky. Oh, I didn't say the government. I'm sure whoever it is. Airplanes. Someone may have done that at some point in time. Most likely has done that at some point in time. But that's not what you're saying.

When you're seeing those clouds that go across those are actual clouds they're clouds that being made by jet engines like this has all been proven this is all scientific that everyone agrees on it it's not there's no controversy about this at all when it comes to people who understand jet propellant engines or jet engines and airplanes and airplanes in atmospheric conditions. Like there's been articles about this since the 1980s. I mean, all it is is in 2001, when September 11th happened, there was an article that was on CNN.com like a couple of days afterwards that was talking about the changes in the temperature because there weren't the artificial clouds that we're used to having overhead on a daily basis that are created when planes fly through the atmosphere so it's not

something that they were being like secretive about this is just an effect of airplanes the real chemtrail is one of the things that i said on my television show we covered this is that they're burning jet fuel in the sky that's the real chem chemtrail. We're polluting the sky, and we just love it because we can get across the country in five hours. And that's where guys like Elon Musk and these geniuses that want to create these incredible high-speed trains, that's where these guys are so amazing.

Because if they can figure out how to do that and use the same sort of technology that keeps Google cars safe, and if everybody can work together and make these, we might be able to change the environment. Like the amount of jet fuel that we burn. There's like thousands and thousands of flights every hour all across the country, constantly going back and forth.

You know that rocket ships apparently take a lot of propulsion to get out. Incredible amount. People work on the rocket ships. I talk to them and they say, oh yeah, the biggest thing is the pollution that's created. When these things blast off, the amount of whatever goes into the atmosphere. Look, you see fire.

Yeah, a lot of... You don't ever see fire unless something that's not good is on fire. You know, if fire's coming out of a metal tube, that's never good. It's never good for the world. What's good now, though, is that people have that opportunity to investigate information. What's good now, though, is that people have that opportunity to investigate information. That's why right now I think that ignorance and negligence are sort of the same thing. People say, oh, I didn't know.

Well, you didn't know because you didn't care enough to look into it. That is true, but sometimes you get caught in a situation where you don't, you know, you just— Still don't understand, even after all the facts are in. Well, you also have contrary opinions back and forth. Which is legitimate. There's a few things that are very, especially when it comes to certain historical events. There's a lot of people that want to talk about, like JFK is a good example. There's a lot of people that love talking about conspiracies. They like to wrap that one up tight.

And when you have these conversations with them and you look at the contrary evidence on both sides, pro and con, it's like, wow, there's a lot of massive amounts of confusion as to what the actual events were. So many people wanted him dead that you couldn't pin their tail on that donkey no matter what. He had multiple people that were upset with his actions. Boy, would they be so lucky if it was just a lone nut. Boy, would they be so lucky. All those other people would be so lucky. We would be so lucky because then this situation would have perpetuated to this point

now if it was a lone nut back then and the system was actually fail safe from situations like this. I think what the 1960s and the death of Kennedy and the Kent State shootings and all that stuff, as tragic as it is for then and for those times, I think that ultimately that kind of stuff is sort of a reminder in a lot of ways to the people of today about how bad it can get if things get out of hand. So when they start creeping up on these infringements on civil liberties and people start rising up, that's where you see things like us going to Syria gets shot down. I mean, you see the entire country, both Democrat and Republican. That was the first time that ever happened where they had made a plan to go in and invade something and they did not do it because of the voice of the public.

The voice of the whole public. You know, it's like, how many Republicans at this point in time are tired of fucking wars? I don't care if you've got a blue suit, a green suit, a purple suit. People are like, enough. Please, just, thank you. We're broke and we're not invading other countries.

And what for? Exactly. And we're not fixing the problems that we have at home. How about the fact there's no water? How about the fact that Texas, it hasn't rained in Texas in fucking years? You know, California had like one rainfall over the past three or four months. It's terrible. I mean, that's something to consider.

It's something to think about where the fuck we're going to get our water from. Desalination plants, maybe. Drain out that fucking goofy ocean. Tire those fish sucking up all the good water. What's happening with the fish all dead off over there, too, everywhere? What's going on with the fish? A lot of times it's a side effect of pollution, too. Or it could be a side effect of certain types of, like like fish need a certain oxygen level and things can

happen and they develop dead zones in the water and there's no oxygen and all the fish just drowned you've seen that on the yeah yeah there's like gazillions of them the hundreds of thousands here there we looked all over the world it seems like there's problems but it could be just you know whatever i don't know well i think it's always happened, but it happens certainly because of pollution as well, I believe. Pollution is bad. We don't need to say, oh, look, it's okay because it's only this amount, or we're containing it. See, this is the containment system.

See, what do they do with that stuff now? They stuff it in the ground and wait for Godzilla to come and eat it. What is that all about? We're going to collect this garbage and then plant it in the ground over here. Well, that's what a little kid does. When you sweep it up, it's a cartoon. You pick up the carpet and you sweep it under the carpet and you put that carpet down.

No shit. It's a very childish way, but it's also the people that were alive that implemented these systems. They're not alive anymore. When they were our age, it was a completely different era. And then when you go back to look at

the distance between us and the 1940s, go back and look at the 1940s and the distance between them and the same amount of time, and you're in the 1800s, okay? You're in the times where people were riding horses and they had to paint their pictures. That's how much distance has traveled. I mean, we really, if you go back to 1940 and you

look at those guys that are running the space program or look at those guys that are involved in nuclear program, how old were they? They're in their 40s? Let's say they're in their 40s. Let's say that they were born in the year 1900 and they were designing and working on all these these crazy technological innovations from the time if you went back from them to as far as us looking at the 1940s you would be what 60 74 years you go to night so 74 years before that so 74 years before that is 18 fucking 26 yeah-26. Yeah. That's amazing. That's crazy. They got a horse.

You know, that is. Stop and think about that. Their 1940, like, world to us, like when we consider the 1940 world, is the early 1800s to them. Huh. It's essentially two decades or two centuries away. And that's on the, just the And that's on the regular ratio. When you start to consider that, the exponential type situation, the growth is magnified as it goes on.

It continues to expand itself out. No doubt. I mean, the growth and change between 1820 and 1940 was nothing compared to 1940 to 2010. I mean, it's just, this is madness. Well, then you look ahead and you say, oh boy. Yeah, I know. It's going to be really weird. But it's just so strange that we're still running on the momentum of these people's ideas

as far as like storage of nuclear weapons, storage of nuclear waste. Reset. Is there a reset button? Fascinating though, really. Bring some kids in. weapons we've storage of uh nuclear waste reset yeah is there a reset but fascinating though really some kids in i agree wholeheartedly but also as a person who's not involved in creating nuclear technology or not involved in any of that i find it fascinating just as an observer like looking at it all like wow this is really an interesting scenario because it was created by these incredible geniuses that lived as long ago as 1820 something to them.

I mean, that is really hard to believe. It's really hard to believe. What's hard to believe is that we're still operating on that same mechanism. Exactly. It's really hard to believe. And it's hard to believe that we still have like garbage dumps. We have like dumps? Like what?

Like we have dumps. We take all the garbage. We throw it over there. And then those dumps become fucking disasters. We went to a garbage dump. We filmed something for the man show at a garbage dump once. It was horrible. It was a horrible, fucking disgusting place.

You dig a hole and dump the shit? Throw all the shit in there. It stinks. Just keep digging holes? It fucking stinks, dude. They just cover it up with dirt and it's disgusting. Doesn't the fume, the methane or whatever, build up if you put it under the ground? That's a good question.

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, methane comes from biological waste, doesn't it? Somebody was telling us that this guy took a mouse, and he made an art thing, and he covered up the mouse with the resin, right? And then the mouse was running through the resin, apparently, until it couldn't go no further, right? He was, like, stuck in the resin, the mouse was. That's an art piece? That's an asshole.

That's an asshole. He glued a mouse. Yeah, it is. So it's inside of this thing now. And then they were in the house one day that was up on the inside. It exploded. It was, like, made out of plastic glass stuff. Yeah.

And it exploded from the mouse was off-gassing from inside of it. And the mouse created so much gas, it blew this whole thing up all over the place, the guy told me. Whoa. From the mouse being stuck in there, the gas that was off-gassing as it died. You know? You know the smell you smell he said the house smelled like that too was you there for that i forget who was telling me now but somebody was and they had to come and do the mop down on the house and everything but that seems like an

unnecessary experiment you got to remember that next time you're messing around with some mice don't stick them in some plastic you know they don't do well well this plastics is they can make from plant material something uh a lot of people aren plastic is what they can make from plant material, something a lot of people aren't aware of. You can make plastic from hemp. Yeah? Yeah, it's a biodegradable plastic you can make from hemp. Ford made a whole car, right?

Yeah, Ford made the first car. The fenders were made out of hemp, and you could hit it with a hammer. Hemp is the weirdest plant ever. I know I sound like a hippie when I start talking great about marijuana, but forget about marijuana. The psychoactive benefits of marijuana I've gone into in depth. I think there's a real benefit to people.

And I hear people saying, oh, you know, kids, and what about the kids? What about the kids? What about the kids with fucking anything? Kids can die from aspirin. Kids can die if they have a contest to see who eats more salt. Kids can die doing a lot of fucking shit.

It's not about kids. It's about responsible use of adults. If it's your kid, you have an obligation to educate your children, do the best you can to protect them from the dangers of this world. All drugs are a part of that, including hundreds of legal ones that are available right now that can kill your children. So that's not the issue. Marijuana is a minor, minor, minor issue when it comes to health and safety. It's a major issue when it comes to consciousness and maybe even more so when it comes to the implementation of hemp as a commodity. Hemp for paper, hemp for building materials,

hemp for automobile panels that are lighter and more durable. Henry Ford figured that shit out at the turn of the 20th century. I mean, he was doing that in the early 1900s. This guy had figured that out. We see the pants they make out of it, the shirts and everything.

And they're durable. They're way more durable than cotton. And now it also has one of the best root systems. So what they need to do, what would be a good idea to do is where you have these erosion problems. If they plant weed in there, the rooting system. Hemp. You've got to say hemp. You've got to say hemp.

When you say weed, I think you're a hippie and you want to get high. Oh, you know. That's just, you know, you do that. I'm just kidding. That's in your own safety of your house. Yes. But this other stuff you could put outside and let it grow.

Well, hemp is a very strange plant. There's really no plant like it on earth. And it's incredibly hard and dense, but very light as well. The seeds, they make that omega-3 and the omega-6. Well, the protein too. Hemp protein is the most easily digestible

protein. It's a fantastic plant. We sell it on it. We sell hemp for us. You have a hemp protein supplement? We bought the best hemp you can get. It's really fine. It's very high in protein.

It's the most expensive, but it's the best. And a lot of people don't like the taste. I think it tastes delicious, but I always fix it up with coconut water. I just throw a banana, coconut water, and hemp force into a blender and that's how I do it. Bam. You're off to the races. It digests easy. The thing about like, I like a lot of different protein powders, but I feel like the vegetable proteins, I like pea protein. There's a Vega that is a, I think it's an all vegan based protein powder, all plant based protein powder that I like too. I like that. I like those because they digest very easily.

You're getting the impact from the, uh. Yeah. I think it's, it's also, it's very easy on the body. Whereas I feel like whey protein, which is also very effective, but it's made from, you know, whey, which is made from milk products. It's, it doesn't, it doesn't quite digest as easily. I feel, I feel like it makes my farts stinkier too. The hemp keeps that, so everybody's happy about that. Clean, easy. My body has no problem digesting it you know and it's illegal to grow in america unbelievable so stupid when i was a kid i used to say my i'm gonna say my mom hey what is wrong with this stuff and she said oh well it's illegal and that was the best thing to come up with that's not even well that doesn't even work with hemp because hemp can't get you high. It's just a plant. Well, I was worried about the other part.

But growing hemp is like growing pine trees. It's like what if someone came along and said you can't grow pine trees? No more pine trees. You can't make pine tables. You can't make pine bed stands. You know, no more pine. You'd be like, what are you talking about? I can't grow pine?

Or roses. Are you fucking crazy? You can't grow any rose bushes. You're trying to snuff out. But the preposterousness of pine is a good one because it's so readily available. Well, if marijuana was legal, it could be as readily available as pine trees. The shit grows everywhere. It fucking grows everywhere.

And for the past hundred years almost, there's been this ridiculous boycott on this magical plant. It's a magical plant. If it didn't exist and someone told you about it from another planet, we would be sending spaceships out to get it. If we found that there was pot growing on the moon, and they found, if the astronauts went to the moon, and they came back with a plant, and over the next decade they analyzed this plant

and found it to have a million different uses, psychoactively, medically, to treat PTSD, interocular pressure from fucking glaucoma to give people their appetite back when they're going through chemo. You go through a laundry list of benefits that this fucking alien plant had. They'd do that fucking,

what's that virgin guy, Richard Branson? He'd be sending spaceships out to the moon with farmers. They'd have Mexicans in space flying to the moon to harvest the marijuana and bring it back home. We got it here. And these cunts are trying to keep it illegal.

It's amazing how... These dummies, like that Chris Christie dummy. I don't understand it. It's dummies. They rail against it. They rail. They rally. They scream. They cry. What we need to do is have them on the right side. They need to get high.

They need to just chill down and say, listen, hey, okay, we're going to do what we can do to make things better. Yes. And get on board. And then people say, hey. And the best way is for you to get high. You've got to grab them. Yeah, or sell that stuff. Don't grab them.

Make it. Say, listen, we use it in our product now. We use this stuff because we found it's better than what we used to use. Well, I think there's a lot of things that could be done to make people overall, just overall in this country, just a wee bit healthier. Just a little bit of a change in the dial and the direction that we're all going. Like I remember Anthony Robbins, who, although I've made fun of inspirational guys, I think is actually a very inspirational guy. I think Anthony Robbins has some really good advice. And I've read a bunch of different things that he said. And back when I was competing in my martial arts days, I actually benefited

very much from a lot of his, he had audio books I listened to by the pool when I lived in a shitty apartment. And one of the things that he said was that if you would take into consideration like two cars that are going in a certain direction if one of them just has a very slight variation off the line just a slight over the course of time the distance that it goes from the original direction it was going to is vast just a small change just a small adjustment and i think that could be said not just of cars that are driving parallel to each other but of a culture and i think that could be said not just of cars that are driving parallel to each other, but of a culture. And I think that if something like the tank came along and the tank in conjunction with this newfound refusal to accept the marijuana laws, there's a newfound refusal. written that came out today. I think it came out today. I found out about it today. I retweeted it today from Reset Me, which is our friend Amber Lyon's website. And essentially, it's talking

about how Colorado has made more money and had less crime. And the taxes too for the school. Six months. Read about the school. Yeah. They gave them 0.9 million or something for the school system. The woman who wrote it, her name is Laura Pegram. And yeah, it came out on the 27th. So that was three days ago. They put money in the school. Yeah. Can you imagine that?

They're doing something on the planet that's putting money into schools. And they have a problem with this? And it's empowering people to start their own business. The right people. People who are into weed. they're going to start their own businesses and get rich. That'd be a weird thing when weed farmers are like a bunch of rich people running around funding schools. Weed farmers are paying for the police to have better facilities. Weed farmers are paying for the fire department to be better equipped. Weed farmers

are paying for the teachers to make more money It's not just a pipe dream Weed farmers are working with the community And the officials in the community To create a situation These guys could be major influences On the entire At this part, right in the podcast People that are listening who are not into weed are like

That's it, that's it, I'm fucking hanging up This stuff's a fucking indoctrination Yeah, yeah, yeah Even if you don't want to smoke weed How could you ever say That's it. I'm fucking hanging up. This stuff's a fucking indoctrination. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well. Even if you don't want to smoke weed, how could you ever say that $100 million in cash revenue, $100 million is not a great thing, that you get that kind of taxes from your first year, and who knows where this is going to go. It could easily double by the second year.

So then you got $200 million in tax revenue. Oh, my goodness. And then they focus where it went. How much of the tax that you paid last month went to the school system? Who knows how much did the school get? I don't care about anything else. Colorado's not that big.

No. I mean, it's big, but it's not like the amount of people as California has. Right. Not even close. So you spread that money out. If you got, look, you add 800 kids and they they made a thousand dollars or whatever. Dude, do you know how much money marijuana would make in California if they just sent it loose? Just set it loose, just unleashed it, fully legal, let's go. I mean, just the medical industry here is so gigantic that there's businesses where doctors just give people weed prescriptions.

That's all they do. That's all they do. They have a line of people with headaches out the door. That's their business. Everybody's paying $40 and they're keeping it moving. And that's legal. What they've done legally is crazy. If they made it fully legal, if they just said, release the hounds, it would change

the culture. It really would. And it would help a lot of people. It would help a lot of people that are resisting it. It would help a lot of athletes. And the big one that would help a lot of athletes is edible. Edible marijuana for inflammation, for injuries, for relaxation, for stretching, just for your body. Just forget about the psychoactive effects of introspection and self-analysis and all that other stuff that comes with eating it. There's physical benefits. It would be pretty substantial. Nutritional benefits.

There's the nutrition. You already talked about that. You can eat it. It's really good for you. It's super healthy. Great for your skin. Hemp oil is good for your skin. You can cook with it.

It's crazy. You can make a car with it. Yeah, you can run a car on it. You can run a car. You can burn hemp oil. The whole thing is so ridiculous that if you looked at it on paper and it wasn't the case. Someone said, hey, we have this stuff. We just figured it out today.

It's called a slippery whatever, and we have it. Well, it would be a great plot for a book. There was a company that somehow or another managed to plot against one of the most beneficial plants on earth and suppress the development and use of it for almost a century. If that was a book, you would be captivated by this plot. Could this happen? Is this possible that one of the most beneficial plants ever known to man could be stifled? They might have known about it in the beginning and then cut it off. Like say, uh-oh, this stuff could catch on. I think that what happens is one of the things that happens is when anything is illegal and then you start arresting people for that thing, you make a business out of arresting people for that thing.

You make a business out of that thing being illegal. And then, like we were talking about before, when those guys are out of a job, like they're just out of a job. So they'll fight to keep their fucking job. And one of the best ways to keep your job is to keep more things illegal. Right. If you're a guy who arrests people for shit, you want to make sure that more things,

like marijuana, stay illegal. Because, especially the DEA, what would they do if marijuana became legal? And then people would start to have to, they would have to start considering all sorts of other drugs becoming legal as well. Maybe they could figure out how to direct the business aspects of it. Take this money now and we'll have an agency, let's say, that works directly with these people that then maybe they could have a place in being helpful.

Yeah. I mean, obviously, folks, this is not they could have a place in being helpful, you know? Yeah. I mean, obviously, folks, this is not something that we thought on in advance. We're trying to work this shit out on the fly. This is not the best way to design a government. But it might be better than what's already in place. You know, what's already in place is just fucking silly. You can't tell people they can't have weed.

Stop it. You can't tell. It's not very nice to involve yourself in other people's business like that when they're not involved in yours. Especially if you're ignorant. When I was first starting to work for the UFC, I would often encounter these articles that were written that were critical of mixed martial arts. And I could tell by reading the article that the person who was writing it had no idea what they were talking about. They didn't understand the sport from a fundamental level. They were incorrect about the the rules they were incorrect about what was allowed they were incorrect about the size of the participants that they were one size against

all you know they didn't know they were they were acting on really old information really bad information but yet here they are writing for some like having an opinion well and writing it in a published form where they spreading it out to the world that's what they're doing when it comes to psychedelics no appreciation it's like having a guy do a wine uh a wine review that's never had any wine yeah well you know i'll do you one better anybody that is trying to get anything like marijuana or mushrooms or any of these things removed from the culture and has no experience in them whatsoever is like a guy who's never had sex trying to make sex illegal it's mean it's well it's insane it's insane that anybody allows it if someone who has

never had sex before tried to make sex illegal to all of us that enjoy sex you'd be like are you crazy it's like one of my favorite things. Like, why would you cut the sex out? Because I don't get sex, so you don't get sex. I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. It rots your brain. It weakens your knees.

And someone could just somehow or another trick people into not having sex. Obviously, sex is a natural urge. Marijuana is something that you learn about. But they're both beneficial and enjoyable aspects of this beautiful thing called life and for whatever fucking reason we've allowed these dummies that are obviously like you look at a guy like nuke gringrich dude you don't you don't you don't get to tell me anything you don't get to tell me what to do or how to live at all you don't

get to i don't believe in you you know i think you're a corporate puppet and you don't get to i don't believe in you you know i think you're a corporate puppet and you don't get to tell me that pot's bad when i look at chris christie you're 300 pounds you don't get to give advice you don't get to give advice oh marijuana rots the brain and this what about your fucking brain it's allowed you to balloon up like another animal you don't even look like a human you look like some sloth some some walrus type creature that's waddled out of the ocean and put on big pants you're a ridiculous person you can't talk about marijuana you don't experience it if you don't experience it on a regular basis you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and that's the problem that we have in our culture

we have these people that are giving advice on something that they have no experience other countries we're over mixed up in other civilizations. These people, they are operating for thousands or hundreds, whatever it is. Exactly. And we're going to come over there and say, hey, here we are now. We're going to tell you guys what to do. We need humility from people that are leading. That's a very important thing.

So when someone takes a big, strong stance on something that they don't have experience with or they don't have full knowledge of, like this, He was talking about some study that they've come out with that marijuana affects the brain. Yeah, it affects the brain, but they don't know if it's good or bad. Did you read that part of it? They don't understand what the effects are, what the negative effects are.

But other than short-term memory loss, no one's demonstrated anything really bad. But a lot of positive shit. Tumor shrinkage, all sorts of medical benefits that do with deal with inflammation and relieving of pressure and for a lot of people it's super beneficial short memory not so held up on your oh i hate that i forget it it's over let it go short memory i like that i got some details there later they come up with me when i need them but uh it's just

it's just it's gonna carry garbage around your head all day some father knows best shit is what it is i mean we're watching leave it to beaver we're just watching a less less like ridiculous form of it it's a more modern person a uh a incorrect moral value on you they they've decided what is right and what's right without having enough information To even have a valid perspective Well the gall of a man To say that another man Should not be able to legally buy

Something as innocuous as marijuana Is so enraging Who the fuck are you? You can't smoke a joint somewhere? By yourself? Especially a person who placates themselves Obviously You're not you you're not

some militant fucking like the the the gunny and full metal jacket mean placate i don't know that word uh you know play what's the best way to describe placate like uh to make someone believe it acid pretend like you're that way no no to try to here i'll give you a perfect to make someone less angry placid i think it's based on placid oh okay but to try to, here, I'll give you a perfect, to make someone less angry. Placid. I think it's based on placid. Oh, okay. But to try to calm you down. Right, right, right, right, right. Sorry.

You lost my train of thought. No, no, I'm sorry. I have a limited vocabulary in certain areas. But you don't, though. You have a very high technological vocabulary. I like to ask questions, so now I have that word in my repertoire as well. Placate. Placate the masses.

You know that expression? You've heard that expression? Like calm the masses down? I think I've heard the word yeah but never really understood what was i saying though what was i saying about the people and oh that he placates his body he can't he obviously he gives into his urges in order to i mean in order to be that big you have to be indulgent i mean there's no way so he's got issues so anybody that's got like some obvious issue like that like man you're not allowed to dictate health and consumption policies. Behavior, even.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Behavior is poor. Yeah, it's ridiculous. You can't even get control on yourself. It's also against the current data. There's no real consensus that shows any sort of significant dangers involved in the consumption of that plant. Certainly not like some of these other ones that have how many dead this year from this and that. Yeah, but you know what? Those other ones are fine too.

I don't have a problem with aspirin being around, but aspirin will fuck you up if you get crazy with it. You're your own architect. You know, a lot of people die every year from aspirin. Aspirin kills people. You know, nobody wants to think about that. But people can die from a lot of dumb shit that doesn't make any sense. It's available everywhere. It's not.

Our issue is education and honesty. And if you're not honest about something as innocuous as marijuana, then why am I going to trust you about anything else? Like, where's the dangerous shit? Oh, we're keeping that legal because it's always been legal well i'm not saying you should make that illegal but you got to let the less dangerous shit in too yeah this is and what if the less dangerous shit changes the way people look at everything including the dangerous shit right and that's that's a real possibility that psychedelics offer to a lot of people that are addicted to diseases

a lot of people that have ptsd that are addicted to diseases. A lot of people that have PTSD, that are addicted to diseases have had extreme benefits from psychedelics. It's a legal crash. You know, see, that's like I told you in the beginning, my mom used to say, what does that mean? I don't even understand what that is. I'm ranting too much. I just get upset.

And I apologize to anybody who's heard this before. But I can't help it at a certain point in time. It hits me and I'm so confused by it, I feel like I need to repeat it. Because it's the worst part of where we're at. It's a bottleneck. It's one of the worst parts is this lack of understanding about what should and shouldn't be happening to us. Whether it's our government committing to wars, or whether it's the people's emails being spied upon or whether it's people being forced to not consume certain things that would offer different

perspectives or people being morality yeah people people telling you what you can and can't do that's not hurting anybody else and i think one of the things that I'm attracted to is altering the current way that I think and altering the current way that other people think and giving you a perspective of the paths that we just get on. We get stuck in these fucking grooves. And it's so easy to keep making those same turns over and over again whenever you hit these very similar moments in your life. And that's where something like the isolation tank is so good. It's so good to just get out of that groove. I can't, you know, I think, you know, like a long, see, when I met you and everything, I thought, you know,

I think I went to, I don't know if I had just gotten back from Costa Rica or somewhere, I thought, you know, this is never going to happen. This is, people are never going to get with this. And then, because it was just, you kept trying and now, but now it seems as if these people in general have gotten up to a place where they're more willing to experience themselves and then make action on that. Yeah. I think, I think we're, people are waking up with a lot of things. I mean, then what you were talking about earlier about Pilates and yoga, I think people are waking up with a lot of things. I mean, what you were talking about earlier about Pilates and yoga, I think people are just waking up about their body.

People are really concerned about where their food's coming from now. This is something that hadn't really existed decades ago. No one was concerned about organics or no one was concerned about GMOs. Anything, products in general. Just the fact that, and I'm not necessarily saying that GMOs are all bad because I don't think they are I think there's definitely Some benefits to

Some genetically modified organisms But I think it's important That we have the conversations That people who are Really intelligent Start dedicating time And effort to researching Checks and balance

With the benefits Pros and cons And then relaying that information Back to the people who grow it Accurately And relaying it back to the public So we know what we're in for But then money gets involved In those things And that's what people Are concerned about the people who grow it. Accurately. And relaying it back to the public so we know what we're in for. But then money gets involved in those things.

And that's what people are concerned about. And it influences the outcome. And then what you see, you don't even know if it was the... Yeah. But it also snaps people back and makes them more involved in growing their own food and more interested in organic gardens. And you've seen a lot of farmer's markets that are popping up left and right. I think farmer's markets are amazing. You go there there you get a direct connection with the guy who actually grows the food this is the woman who actually milks these cows this is the guy that actually picks

this celery he's right there this is their their special tomatoes they have heirloom tomatoes you get to meet these people you know i think that is that that sort of connection is exciting to people and that's the blowback away from a lot of the other stuff. But it's all because we're getting this information. Yeah. And we're able to make our own decisions. Now that becomes kind of appealing. Yes.

Maybe years ago you really don't want to meet the farmer. You really don't care where his tomato came from. Yeah. Now it's kind of like more interesting to understand, you know, the orientation, you know, how it's happening or you know what's going on people are more like the spray on them the the roundup the like you said adm and people back they just stuff just happened and they really weren't you know uh i don't know if they were certain they were just caught up in whatever was going on stuff it's kind of they didn't have a

way of communicating about it like we have, too. The internet really is incredible. Yeah. Someone could put up a blog about here's the dangers of this particular pesticide on your tomatoes. And then you hear about that and you go, whoa, that is not good. And that's real. The pesticides kill bugs. Why do they kill bugs? Because they're fucking poison.

Why are those plants not getting poisoned? Well, they are, but it's just not enough to kill them. They figure out a way to make them tougher. One of the Whole Foods one day, and I'm in there, and this guy was in there spraying the stuff, you know? I said to him, I said, hey, what's this? Conventional grown or organically grown? What does that mean? He goes, well, he goes, I guess if it's organic, it's done without poison. And I said, huh, all right. So the conventional means is I go with it, a poisonous substance in order to... Okay, let's find out about that.

Conventional? Because I've always wanted to know what is the official description, what is the official definition of organic? Look, so I got this from the cleanup guy. When it comes to food. And I thought, hey, he doesn't seem to be a scientist, but that seems to make a lot of sense. Let's look into Wikipedia. This is organic foods are produced using methods of organic farming. Currently blah blah blah blah blah blah

requires, countries require producers to obtain special certification in order to market food as organic within their borders. The context of these regulations, organic food is food produced in a way that complies with organic standards. They keep saying nothing

here. What's organic? Dude, we got back to organic again. While the organic standard is defined differently in different jurisdictions. Oh, okay. In general, organic farming responds to site-specific farming and crop conditions by integrating cultural, biological, and mechanical practices that foster cycling of resources, promote ecological balance, and concern biodiversity.

I didn't know that. Okay, synthetic pesticides and chemical fertilizers are not allowed, although certain organically approved pesticides may be used under limited conditions in general organic foods, are not processed using irradiation, industrial solvents, or chemical food additives. I didn't know the first part, though. I didn't know it was defined by cycling the conditions, cycling of resources.

Well, that's what they need to do, right? Mulch and, yeah. The nutrients in the soil there. Yeah, that's one of the most difficult things, apparently. Crop rotation, I guess, is a... Crop rotation and also, you know, when you have enormous chunks of land that are just dedicated entirely to corn or entirely to this or entirely to that, you know, a lot of times those farmlands become minerally deficient and they have to actually add minerals to the ground in order to... I think they would use, in the old days, like they would use like fish and stuff like that to try to replenish their garden. Fish is apparently really good for that.

But, uh, yeah, the, the idea that that's a weird thing to want something to be organic. You gotta, you gotta ask for that. It's like,

how did you allow people to pour poison on, on food? How did you allow people to grow? I mean, isn't there another way to deal with those bugs? Can you like hire someone to clean the bugs off And you have to fucking spray death from the sky? It sounds ridiculous. Like, my version of it sounds ridiculous.

Birds and animals. Do birds eat all the corn, too, though, don't they? I don't know. Animals do. They've got a covering on it. Well, I don't know who eats it. Well, you know, I was watching some show the other day on the History Channel. It was actually about history, which is hilarious,

because you watch the fucking History Channel. When was the last time you saw some shit about history, right? Never. It's always, like, alligator farmers or something. Something fucked up. But it was about locusts. It was all about the early 1800s, and these people were, like, traveling across the United States,

setting up farms and stuff, and the locusts hit these people's farms. And they had to send in the army to bring these people food. I mean, these grasshoppers, these locusts, were just, they filled the sky for hours. Like for hours and hours, they filled the sky and just flew by and just destroyed everything. Just tore through people's crops. And they were talking about how big it must have been, the millions and millions of bugs that must have been in the air. Yeah.

They said it was insane. And they just went straight for the corn though, They went straight for crops. They just buzzed through and killed everything. They said you would see it as a storm cloud coming at you. And then as you looked down, or looked up rather, you would realize somewhere along the line that

there wasn't a cloud that was a storm. You'd probably hear it. It was a cloud of bugs. Did they make a clicky sound or something? up pull a video of locusts pull up some locust video from the you know what does the locust sound like does it got a clicky sound when it's flying i don't know i've never been around locusts i've been around grasshoppers and apparently they're in the grasshopper family where's this locust shells that's so disgusting you just like go outside you don't just see this empty shell of what looks exactly like a locust, but it's just like the shell

of it. Just the outside of those things. But if you've ever heard of biblical predictions, locusts was involved in biblical predictions of apocalyptic conditions. They always talked about locusts. Locusts taking the sky. Yeah, like when you think about

old horror movies, demonic possession things. A plague of locusts hit Egypt this weekend causing some citizens to burn tires in an attempt to ward them off. That's when you know shit gets ugly. Burn tires? Burn tires. Swarm of locusts were spotted in

several districts of Cairo on Saturday as they invaded the Giza area of the Middle Eastern nation. Oh, let's see this shit. I can't wait. It's like a previews for a movie. What is it, Star Wars, bitch? 30 million insects. Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away.

Let's see this shit. I want to see them invade. I don't see shit. Here they are. That's it? Oh, they're coming. It's not going to be pretty. This is not good film. This they are. That's it. Oh, they're coming. It's not going to be pretty. This is not good film.

This is terrible. Oh, I guess we're not seeing it in good HD. That's what it is. We're seeing it in this shitty YouTube thing via our television. But yeah, wow. Wow. That's a lot of goddamn bugs. There's the noise too.

Whoa. That's so weird. They're like the ultimate gang. And they fly in this huge formation and just cause massive destruction. And apparently

they've done it since the beginning of time. They occasionally get together in these super gangs. Well, it's in the Bible like you said, I think. In the biblical they say,

oh, locusts, they come in the, that's one of the things Like you said I think Yeah Oh locusts They come in the That's one of the Things that When it signs Gay people have been Fucking each other Whoa look at that

Oh boy This is in the congos I would have said They're grasshoppers Whoa Why just now Look at that Oh my god

That's disgusting That's insane People are freaking the fuck out. Bitch, shut your mouth. Jesus Christ. How old is that kid? She's over eight. Tell her to shut her hole.

All right. Oh, my God. This kid with the ears. Shut this kid down. That's a lot of bug. Wow, that is incredible. You know what? I might be screaming like a bitch. I'd be right there with the kid.

Imagine being on a motorcycle just trying to get home, and you're just like splat, splat, splat. And this said the Congo. This is in the Congo. Oh my God. It's amazing, man. So many of them. Mommy's not helping you, dude. What is she going to do?

Fucking goddamn storm. You should be so psyched that people invented cars, right? That's how you should feel right now. You should be like, people are awesome. Look at the cars we invented to protect us from locusts. That's what you should be thinking. You should be like, people are awesome. Look at the cars we invented to protect us from locusts.

That's what you should be thinking. You should be like, oh, that's amazing. Thank God they invented pesticides to spray to the sky and knock those fuckers dead. Can they do anything when locusts come, do you think? Can they, like, throw nets up or anything? Burn tires. Yeah, how do they stop locusts? You get a windmill

with a very large paddle and you just put it in the center of the town. Just smack them right in the face as they come in. Just kill them all eventually. They put a sheet down below so when you chop them up, that's a good protein powder there.

It's very good for you, right? A lot of people eat bugs in other parts of the world where they have to. So when you chop them up, that's a good protein powder there. It's very good for you, right? A locust protein powder. A lot of people eat bugs in other parts of the world where they have to. They're tasty. A locust? Yeah, crunchy. Have you actually eaten them? Well, no.

What are you saying, Crash? Remember you just kept chocolate candies? Yeah, I never got a chocolate grasshopper. Chocolate-covered grasshopper or something? Really? Yeah. Did you eat them? No, I never tried it, but they sell that shit at Urban Outfitters, actually.

Urban Outfitters sells locusts? Yeah, they sell these weird bugs. You can just get chocolate ants there. I've had chocolate ants. Caterpillars. The thing about chocolate ants is they're actually good for you. Ants are actually good for you, as long as you're not poisoning ants. When you're eating ants, it's actually a good source of protein.

So if it's a good source of protein covered in chocolate, you kind of feel like, well, I'm not really eating candy. But you're still eating candy. I think we put the windmill up after they hit the corn field. Then after they're all full of corn, then we make them into the powder, and then they have more

nutritional value. Well, I think even if you put the windmill up, you'd only kill the ones that are near the windmill. The ones underneath the windmill that are like your height and my height, they fly like an inch off the ground, those fuckers. Like, I think even if you put the windmill up, you'd only kill the ones that are near the windmill. The ones underneath the windmill that are like your height and my height, they fly like an inch off the ground, those fuckers. Like, they're everywhere. Phew, kamikazes. Yeah, there's so many

of them. There's no room. They can't all just be in the sky. How does that happen? How do they all get born? That's a good question. I think they fuck. Just all of those at one time? I think they do. That's called a cluster fuck, huh? That's the biblical clusterfuck. Yeah. Wow.

We're lucky. We're very lucky, especially here in California. We don't even have mosquitoes, dude. You know, I thought about that when I was up in Canada. We have to, they have a thing called thermosel. You ever heard of a thermosel? It's weird. It's like got a compartment in it that you put like a chemical and then you turn these suckers on and then you put it down and this like mist comes out and you can't smell it at all but the mosquitoes avoid

you like the plague so we would sit down outside in the woods and it was really mosquito ridden like immediately the mosquitoes come near you like holy shit i don't think i could do this like this is rough like they were all over you You put this thermosel thing down boom ten minutes later They're gone before that I got like a mask on ski mask and a hat and I got fucking gloves on my cheese And they're trying to bite me through my gloves like you fuckers. They're everywhere persistent thermosel you keep it on for ten minutes There's no mosquitoes boom no it sucks is those I don't know if they have a minute Los Angeles is the Japanese Beatles that in The Midwest we used to get so many Japanese beetles that would have to have these bags

that you put in your front and backyard where the beetles would come in and get collected in there. Every week, you'd just have this humongous bag of sweaty bugs. Really? Can't get out of it. It's like a beetle hotel. Yeah, it's like a beetle trap. Just bags of beetles.

Wow. Disgusting. I saw some video the other day of another thing we don't have to deal with. There was a hailstorm somewhere that had fucked this guy's car up. This guy's entire car was covered in dents everywhere. As if it had a really bad case of chicken pox and scrapped off all of its scabs. The whole car was just pocked in. Windows were broken. The hail was so big,

it shattered the windshield. It's funny. One of those hits you in the head. You're fucked. You're a dad, man. How many people die from hail every year?

More than coconuts. That's a lot. Ten? More than coconuts? For real? I don't know. I know some people. They say they die

from coconuts. Look how excited I got. 150 people die every year from coconuts. Really? Yeah. Okay, how many people die for a year about hail?

How many would you say? Let's guess. 50. Over 100. Before I left for California, my house got the golf-sized hail, and the whole Columbus area, and everybody's car got ruined. Everybody's house was ruined. People would move to Columbus just to be insurance agents for like a year

because everyone's house were fucked. And so everyone got new cars. It was so's house were fucked. Everyone got new cars. It was so weird that the whole city almost got new cars at the same time. There's a hailstorm, a hailstone in 1928 that weighed 1.5 pounds.

How big is that? It is 7 inches. Wow! It weighed 1.5 pounds. And it came from the fucking sky. It's believed to be the largest known in the U.S. at the time. Man. They captured that bad boy, huh?

Seven inches? Okay, there's another one that in 1970 that was 1.67 pounds. So it was even bigger. Jesus Christ. A Labor Day thunderstorm cost $342 million worth of insurance damage in Calgary.

All the hair zones. I wonder who's out there looking for the bigger one. That one's like 12 ounces over there. No, no, here's a bigger one. Somebody's running around and there's

these ice balls flying around the place. Well, every now and then in Kansas had this one in 1992, two batches of severe thunderstorms for six hours. Oh, within six hours of either dumped hailstones up to four and a half inches across this area, including the city of Wichita surrounding counties of South Central Kansas and over 10,000 homes were damaged the hail left wheat

fields in a near total loss property damage totaled 500 million dollars with crop damage at a hundred million how many people died though I can't find it I can't find imagine. I can't find... Imagine if you'd be the first dummy that died from hail. They stay in when that stuff's happening. They say nobody dies. No. You're fucking fine.

You're not a stalk of wheat. Doesn't hurt that bad. Let's see. Hail storm. I tried to get hail storm fatalities. How many people die a year from hail? 27 people died from tornadoes and hailstorms in the Midwest.

What's that? It says here 900 people a year. What? How many said from the coconut again? What did you say? 150. 150? Jesus.

Where does it say that? 900 a year? Where does it say that? It just year? Where does it say that? It just came up. How many people die from hail? 900 a year can be a very dangerous thing. Are there any instances of death? There's only one here that says they know of,

of in the United States. 1939 in Lubbock, Texas, a farmer got caught in an open field and died from hail. Yeah, last known death. Fort Collins, an infant lying in its mother's arms was killed by hail in 1979. Can you imagine that? It doesn't seem like... Your kid's in your hands and you're a clobber.

Yeah, there's nothing you could do, man. If you were caught in an open field and it started coming down hard, it kills your kid. Ugh, that's got to be the worst. There's not many people, man. I don't believe it's 900 a year. Yeah, this actually says the last known death was caused by hail in the U.S. was in the year 2000. Yeah, that makes sense. It was 900 total.

Well, you know what? Today, people know so much about storms. And if you live in an area where you might, you know, you live in some Kansas-type area where they have hail storms on a regular basis. Well, get in. Yeah. Look at the cars getting pummeled. Hurricanes are way scarier. Hurricanes are the most scary.

You ever see that show, This Old House? Yeah, I remember that guy. Bob Veland. They still have that show on. I watched some PBS this weekend, and they were rebuilding the Jersey Shore, and they were showing how, I mean, it's destroyed. It's destroyed. rebuilding the Jersey shore and they were showing how, I mean, it's destroyed, it's destroyed. But so what they've had to do is go under all these houses and like lift them up all 10 feet. So all

the houses are going up 10 feet to make them taller, make them taller. So if the water comes in again, they're okay. Right. And they have to take these humongous, like, like, uh, like these, like poles, you know, they look like a telephone poles and that they'd like push them into the ground, like 20 feet or something like that. Oh, my God. I mean, it's such a pain in the ass. They say Jersey Shore is probably not going to come back for another 7 to 10 years until it's back to normal. That's incredible.

Yeah. I can't believe that they're going to do that and make these poles and then just sit there. And what if the water's under you? Can you imagine if I could sit in your house and the water comes up to the top of the pole yeah and you're like oh my god why did i build a house here again what am i crazy yeah i got the ocean under my house right i have to put the boat on the roof you see the ocean like slowly coming up closer and closer to the bottom of your house you're like why wouldn't you just go 20 feet why wouldn't you just be the one person that's 20 feet because then you'd have to get all the way up there, and the shit would be swaying in the breeze.

You'd have to dig deeper holes for the columns. You'd have to worry about, I mean, I don't know how strong the ground is there. We had a house in Hawaii. It was on poles. It was on Sunset Beach there, right at the beach. It got washed away in 69. Wow.

Three houses. The waves came up so high. Between Pipeline and Waimea Bay, I live in Sunset. There's three houses that were on poles because they had been washed up on the Cam Highway. When they brought them back down, they put them up on these poles. And we lived in one of them. Wow.

It's pretty cool. But the waves never came up that high. I think they're only counting on tsunamis and shit. Yeah, I think that's what that pole thing is. But a tsunami, the thing is, if the water comes in, it's not coming in by itself. Did you ever watch the tsunami that hit in Japan? They're bringing in boats and houses. Your house is going to get hit by a house.

You're going to get fucked. Your house is going to get hit by a boat. You don't want that to happen, man. You want to get out of there. Just don't fucking count on that 10-foot pole. There's people that stayed in many storms. I remember Gloria when I was a kid. When I was a kid and I lived in Boston is when Hurricane Gloria hit.

I want to say, boy, if I had to guess, I'd have to say I was in high school. So I'd say it was in the 80s. But it was a huge one, and it hit way the fuck up the East Coast. And it knocked the power out in a lot of places. Okay. It was 1985. So it was when I was in high school and I was graduating. That was my senior year of high school.

It was 1985. And that's when this fucker hit. My senior year of high school was 85, and that's when this fucker hit. And it hit the first major storm to affect New York and Long Island directly since Hurricane Donna in 1960. So people went a long time. They went 25 years when they hadn't had a hurricane hit them. And this motherfucker came down and wiped out everything. And power was out. And i lived in boston which is pretty far away from the epicenter of the storm but i remember it being utterly humbling i remember

we were in my house we were looking out the window and the trees were just fucking like they were like like leaves they were blowing back and forth like they were just leaves like there was no weight to them and you would see you would go out afterwards and just trees would be falling everywhere just collapsed over streets collapsed on houses collapsed on cars just broken trees everywhere and just the feeling like whoa like you know i had been in storms before i'd been in thunderstorms before i'd been in snowstorms before but there was something about a hurricane and and even a hurricane that, you know, I was way away from the center. I lived in Boston. I lived in Newton, Massachusetts, actually.

So that was like, you know, a suburb of Boston. Like, man, we didn't, you know, we didn't get nothing. Just the residual was off the hook. Yeah, just the residual. Incredible. I mean, it was, I couldn't imagine what it would be like to be in one of those Katrina ones. The ocean is so powerful. That, that water, you know, when I was out there, I was trying to learn how to surf too, about the same time, near death. I don't know how many times, you're hit by one of

these waves. Yeah. The, the water possesses so much power, you know, you really have to have a respect for it, you know, and once it gets riled up like that coming at you, there's not a whole lot going to be done to slow it down, I don't don't think well i think we're basing our ideas about what the atmosphere is like like what the weather's like what the you know the safety of being around volcanoes the safety of being around the ocean we're basing it on the few hundred years that people have been paying attention and taking notes you know how many people have been here before that? The Native Americans only, really.

And what happened to them? Yeah, well, that was us, most of it. It was a tsunami or who knows. But there were certainly people that died in that way as well, you know. We just didn't hear about it. I mean, there had to be people. If people have lived in North America for the past, you know, X amount of thousands of years, like they have evidence that goes way back to 10,000 years ago of people living in North America for the past, you know, X amount of thousands of years. Like they have evidence that goes way back to 10,000 years ago of people living in North America. So if that's

the case for sure, something during that time, like there had to have been a bunch of events, a bunch of things happening. We just, we're not aware. So when something like Katrina comes or something like Gloria comes when I was in high school, like you, you go, wait, is this possible? This, this can happen too? Like this can fucking happen? Like shouldn't we be preparing for this? How often does this happen? Well, the last time it happened was 1960, so just relax. Okay, but it can happen, right? This can happen?

You should prepare for this. Now that you know that this can happen, there should be no houses that are built from here on out that can't deal with this. Because it might not happen. But it could fucking happen. It has happened. You got two of them on record. You got one from 1960. You got one from 1985.

Done. What the fuck do I have to tell you? We're waiting for that. These bitches are happening. They're coming. Let's get ready. You don't know what could happen. You could get three of them in a year.

Like, the ones that existed before people measured things, they still existed. The giant fucking storms that killed people before meteorologists were invented were still valid. And this idea that we're basing it off on this tiny little window that we've been alive you know i'm fucking i've been in la since 94 i haven't seen a single fucking significant earthquake does not worry if everybody's a pussy are you crazy this fucking thing's on a piece of moving ground it's just you don't live long enough for it to move that much because the the perspective that you're looking at it's gotta move it's gotta happen yeah you're looking at it in terms of a human life perspective you got to look at it in a fractal sense like the earth and there's no guarantees yeah this 100 years is nothing it could be right now it's time to be up well just think about what

we were talking about before the difference between us and the people in the 1940s the difference between the people in 1940s and the difference between them and the people in the 1820s add all that stuff up together look at it and just go back a few times like that a few generations the 1940s, the difference between the people in the 1940s, and the difference between them and the people in the 1820s. Add all that stuff up together, look at it, and just go back a few times like that, a few generations like that, and that's what we have. That's the amount of information we have. And in that time, in those time periods, we have a bunch of them. We have the earthquake and fire in San Francisco. We have floods.

We have Hurricane Katrina. We have floods. We have Hurricane Katrina. We have Gloria. We have the most recent ones, the tornadoes that won that fucking town in, what was that town? Joplin, Mississippi. Like almost completely wiped off the map. I believe it was Joplin. I should probably put it.

Is it Missouri or Mississippi? Joplin. Was it Missouri? Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Joplin, Missouri. It's one of my favorite places. Do you really? I hang out in Joplin. Was it Missouri? Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Joplin, Missouri. It's one of my favorite places.

Do you really? I go to hang out in Joplin all the time. Tornado. Are you joking? Are you joking, bro? Yeah, I'm joking. 2011 in Joplin. A tornado struck Joplin, Missouri.

It was a larger late May tornado outbreak, and it reached a maximum width, ready for this, of one mile. A width of a mile. A tornado. That's a mile wide. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's the devastation path.

Oh, a mile wide when it comes through? The terrorist stuff up? Or was it an F5? Dude, I don't know. What's an F5? It has to be an F5. Classification? I don't know what that means.

I just know it means death. Oh, yeah. It reached a maximum width of nearly one mile during its path through the southern part of the city. It rapidly intensified and tracked eastward across the city and then continued eastward across Interstate 44 into rural sections of Jasper County and Newton County. It was the third tornado to strike Joplin since May of 1971.

The tornado killed 158 people with the additional four indirect deaths, injured some 1,150 others, and caused damages amounting to $2.8 billion. It was the deadliest tornado to strike the United States since the 1947 tornadoes. Whoa. Since the tornado. In 1947, there was a multiple? Yeah. We got devastated.

That's a bad year. The Glacier-Higgins-Woodward tornadoes in 1947. Shoot. Yeah. And they traveled 125 miles from Texas to Oklahoma, Woodward tornadoes in 1947. Yeah. And these, uh, they traveled 125 miles from Texas to Oklahoma, destroying everything in its path because it was originally thought to have left a 220 mile path,

but it's now believed to have been a part of a family of eight or nine tornadoes. A fucking family of tornadoes. tornadoes although deadly did not match the astounding death toll of the earlier event nor did they match the record speed of that tornado or the although at over 40 miles per hour they qualified as a fast tracking storm wow mom i'm home dude could you fucking imagine looking out your window and seeing nine tornadoes coming at you and just thinking about all the times you jerked off and what the Bible

told you and you're like thinking it was you. You know, if you lived in 1947, bro. Then the locusts are coming on top of it. You know it's over. If you were in Texas and it was 1947, you could convince yourself those tornadoes were coming for you because you jerked off. If you were 16, if you were some kid who's just resisting church so bad,

but you couldn't stop beating off, you'd still go to church, your dad would scream at you, and you're in there beating off, and you look out the window, and you see nine tornadoes heading your way, and you're fucking convinced it was you. Convinced it was you that killed everybody. Fire and brimstone, Brian Redband masturbating. The devil has sent his henchmen

to take you out of the path and out of the path of righteousness. And you have to become a priest because everyone in the town died because of you. You and your beating off

and fuck. Family of tornadoes. Yeah. That's a terrifying idea. There's a lot of heavy vibes on that, man. You know you're behind something like that.

A mile wide tornado. What the hell, man? Nine of them. All that little little patch i wonder if i'm correct tornadoes i wonder if i'm correct saying the mile of destruction because it sounded so much better than just the actual width of the storm i'm so happy we don't have to deal with tornadoes man that shit was i saw one the other day i saw one the other day where i saw a tornado of leaves oh yeah out yeah. Out of nowhere. Yeah. Dust tornadoes are crazy. It was the weirdest shit ever. I mean, it wasn't a tornado that kills, obviously. I was driving, and I stopped my car to watch it. It was crazy.

You ever gone through the desert, like driving to Vegas or something, and you'll just see on the side of the road a sand tornado, and you're like, what the fuck is that? Is that going to hurt me? Yeah, right? They can get them. I mean, they have gotten them in California before. We looked that up one day.

What is a tornado anyway? Some sort of a weather condition. Something happens. So the weather snaps and it starts to spinning. I believe it's like cold weather mixing with warm weather. It's like cold France and warm weather. It's a spin? I don't know.

I don't know. Okay, let's look it up. Let's look it up. What causes a tornado? What is a tornado? Dude, this is like education. We got a cyclone too. We got a cyclone. We learned today. Well, let's look it up. Let's look it up. What causes a tornado? What is a tornado? Dude, this is like education. We got a cyclone, too. We got a cyclone.

We learned today. Well, we're learning every day, hopefully. Well, I'm not going to go along with that. I'm still holding a thing. Of course you are. It's more sexy. Black helicopters. A tornado is a violently rotating column of air that is in contact with both the surface

of the earth and a... Okay, ready for this one? Ooh, how do you say this? Q-C-U-M-U-L-O-N-I-M-B-U-S. Cumulonimbus. Cumulonimbus. Cumulonimbus? Cumulonimbus?

Is that a cloud? Cumulonimbus. Cumulonimbus cumulonimbus cumulonimbus cloud or in rare cases the base of a cumulus cloud cumulus they are often referred to as twisters or cyclones

although the word cyclone is used in meteorology in a wider sense to name any closed low pressure circulation tornadoes come in many shapes and sizes, but they're typically in the form of a visible condensation funnel whose narrow end touches the earth and is often encircled by a cloud of debris and dust. Have you ever seen the video from Dallas, Texas,

from two years ago, where semis were flying through the air? Something to do with Twister. Pull that up. Pull up semis flying through the air in Dallas Twister. It was the craziest shit. I was watching it on TV. I was in Texas at the time, too. I was in another part of Texas.

And the... Oh, wait a minute. That's not true. No, I was in Texas during another one. But it wasn't this one. The one where they had it on the news, I think I was in another state. But I could have been in Texas. I was on the road. And I was like, I could have been in Texas during another one, but it wasn't this one. The one where they had it on the news, I think I was in another state, but I could have been in Texas.

I was on the road, and I was like, I could have been in Texas right now. I've been to that part of Texas. Anyway, point being, I'm watching the news, and here it is. This is exactly the footage. And there's a twister. This is on the fucking news. And the guy's talking, and you see actual semi-tractor trailers flying through the fucking air like paper cups, man. As you're seeing this funnel spinning, look at that.

See that? Those are tractor trailers, man. And look, they get... Are we logging? Look at it. You see the things crackle? See all the electrical fires? Because they're removing them.

They're removing electrical cables and shit from the ground and shorting things out. And eventually it picks up these tractor trailers and they're flying through the fucking air. Is this the same video? I believe it is. Okay, there. There's one flying through the fucking air. Look at that. That's a tractor trailer, bro. It's flying. I fucking air look at that that's a tractor trailer bro

it's flying i mean what is that what does that weigh what is it but it's got to weigh a few thousand pounds well it depends if it's got anything in it too yeah but if it doesn't even if it doesn't have anything in it look there's one yeah that's flying through the air and landing on shit boom it's throwing it through the air. Those are all cargo boxes and tractor trailers. It's great. Look at all those tractor trailers. Just jacked. Picked up and tossed and twisted around

like an aluminum foil. Amazing. They landed near the highway. It's fucking crazy. Mother Nature's That bitch doesn't play. Nah. It's on her terms. Yeah, it is on her terms. Especially when we're fucking around

lighting shit on fire and sending rocket ships into space and fucking with the air and airplanes burning fuel and cars are burning fuel and adding to the pollution. Yeah. It's weird. But even if we didn't, even if we didn't add, even if we didn't, even if we didn't add,

even if we didn't, the place is a goddamn horrifying mess. Even if we didn't do a goddamn thing, if we lived our lives completely ecocentric, if we lived our lives

with organic farming, if we lived our lives in a completely harmonious way with nature, we could still get smushed by a big rock from space. Clobbered. Boom.

Yeah. Not to say that we shouldn't be you know loving to our mother earth and we absolutely should absolutely 100% without a doubt no argument for me but it's possible for us to get fucked up by a super volcano even if we did even if we did an ice age can come even if we did the best we could do well the dinosaurs all died yeah They hit it with a meteor? No, they were using their cell phones too much. Shoot myself in the cell phone

brain now. The fucking cell phone drew in. Imagine if they found old cell phones that dinosaurs used and we realized dinosaurs were super fucking smart

and had cell phones. They had a picture of that guy on that line that was in the beginning of a movie and he was walking by with a phone on his ear. It was in front of

Man's Theater. What was that movie? There was a lost clip they found off of an old movie charlie chaplin movie oh no no no no he had a he had a they that's what everyone thought you saw that guy walking by with the thing like yeah it's not what it was there was an invention that they had come up with for people that were hard of hearing before they had hearing aids and you would hold it up to your ear and it would magnify the sound. That's what it was. And so in a blurry image, when you're looking at it, you know.

Yeah, it's like a future guy. He's on his cell phone or something. Well, you know, to this day, people have ear problems, and they get hearing aids. Oh, yeah. And you see them a lot. They stick out of their ear. Well, back in those days, they just held it up to their ear. Right, right.

So that was a sound. Yeah, it was some sort of a sound amplifier. Yeah, sound amplifier yeah you wonder yeah if someone's gonna do time travel i don't think they would go to the charlie chaplin days yeah yeah are you gonna hang around here and do that for us could you imagine if we did find out that some dude's been fucking traveling back in time from the future and we get up to the future one day we meet him you're like wait a minute dick i've seen you before you find out he's jimmy hendrix Hendrix. He's been a bunch of different people. He's just been going back in time and being

a bad motherfucker, but really just some guy from the future. You never know. No, you do know. That's ridiculous, and I'm stoned. How dare you, Crash?

Don't you never know me. I'm hoping Hendrix shows back up, man. I think he... I wish he got Elvis and Hendrix here. Listen, he was already here. I got a Hendrix shirt on, man. I got Hendrix behind me. He was already here. He was already here. Listen, it was already here. I got a Hendrix shirt on, man.

I got Hendrix behind me. He was already here. See, that's an impression. It's got a poster here. That's a cat that left something behind. He was awesome. I'm a huge fan. He was super awesome.

But he doesn't need to come back. He did his time. Well, yeah, he did his time. Yeah, now you got Gary Clark Jr. And I'm not saying Gary Clark Jr. is equivalent to Hendrix, but I'm saying, look, there's always going to be Honey Honey. There's always going to be new bands that come out. There's always going to be cool new sounds.

There's the Black Keys. There's always going to be, you know, there's always cool shit, man. It's always coming out. I'm glad. Fuck yeah. This is the best time ever. I agree.

Anybody that doesn't think this is the best time ever on earth is silly. You're not paying attention. We're not taking advantage of the situation then. Yeah. Here's what we have. We're here, all this stuff to keep us happy and keep us occupied.

Calculator watches. You know, cell phones. Tons of, you know, things that occupy our time. There are things that occupy our time in a negative way. They can take your time away. But they also give you the opportunity to do things. It's up to you to decide what you do with your time. Exactly.

That's that thing again. They say, oh, it's bad to be selfish. And I think, oh, it's not because if you're concerned with yourself and what you're up to, you turn out to be a better product for the other people around you. You say, oh, wow, this guy's actually spent some time with himself to understand more about. Selfish is a weird word, though, because when I think's actually spent some time with himself to understand more about- Selfish is a weird word, though, because when I think of selfish, I think of like-

Greedy. You know those movies where people are trapped somewhere and it turns out one dude's been hogging all the food and lying about it? Yeah. That guy's a selfish fuck. That's the way they present. Right?

Yes. You know what I mean? You hear about that guy and you're like, you dick. Or one guy shuts the door. You're like, stop, don't shut the door. Yeah. He runs away. Yeah. That guy's selfish. that guy's selfish right that's a selfish person then you hear the people get killed by the monster and then you find out that he shut the door you're like you dick that's a selfish guy um but there's

also self-aware and self-awareness and concentrating on yourself and some people are uncomfortable with other people concentrating on themselves some people are uh they're uncomfortable with people that are like really into. Some people are uncomfortable with people that are really into their bodies. They're uncomfortable with people that are really into fitness or people that are really into health. They get upset at them. They don't like it. It makes them feel bad. Remember they used to look at the label in the store? And you're looking at these people in a shopping store and they're looking at the label.

These are words you don't even know what they mean many years ago. Now everybody knows. Everybody's now looking at it. High fructose corn syrup. Look at that. Times have changed. I can't tell you how many times I picked up an ingredient and, oh, I fucking know. I can't say it.

I'm not going to eat it. I can't even read what this stuff is. I'm not going to put it in my mouth. Are you kidding me? You know what I started looking at recently that I never looked at before? Grams of sugar in drinks. Grams of sugar in a sports drink, one of those sports drinks type things. It's crazy.

It's like more sugar than you're supposed to have in a day. Is it sugar even? Now there's this stuff from the beets and there's this stuff from the corn. Beets? Yeah, beet sugar. Beet sugar? Yeah. Sounds good.

Well, you know, you would think it's good. I think that they're supposed to have been modified or something. I don't know. Once again. Chem trails. Yeah. Try not to get too upset by all this. But try to get, when you buy the sugar, get the cane sugar, organic cane sugar.

Yes. That's what the labels, now I understand that. I don't read all the labels. Your body doesn't want sugar like that. No. I mean, you can have it in cookies, and you can have it in cakes, and you can have it in moderation, and you'll be fine. But your body doesn't want sugar like that You can have it in cookies and you can have it in cakes And you can have it in moderation and you'll be fine But your body doesn't want it like that

Your body wants sugar that's attached to foods There's a lot of yummy stuff Fruits and stuff, I love that stuff If oranges didn't exist If they didn't exist and you had to go to some Crazy exotic location To find an orange, like a real good Ripe Florida orange,

one of those big plump ones that's easy to peel and you bite into that fucker and you're like, oh, it's so delicious. It would be an extreme luxury. It's so much better than caviar. It's just caviar is hard to get, but caviar tastes like dog shit. Oh, it's an acquired taste.

No one needs an acquired taste for oranges. I like it. Oranges are delicious. Oranges are good. You like caviar? Yeah, I do. You're one of those motherfuckers. I used to live with some Russian people and I got a... You acquired the taste of caviar. I did acquire the taste,

but it is... I can appreciate the... Nothing wrong with it, but my point is you had to acquire it. The orange is bam. Orange is right there. Perfect. It's delicious. It's very different. I get it. It's a sophisticated palate that recognizes recognizes the subtleties of our caviar our caviar is from a very particular type of

sturgeon yeah i can't even tell if it's green i mean if it's a black or the red or whatever is it it all tastes kind of like the same to me it's dog shit it's like wine it's nasty i never used to you know like i can't really tell the difference. Oh, this tastes like a wine. I can taste good wine. Like wine, it tastes good. I just don't. It's good to. A sommelier, that is a real job.

Like someone who actually understands wine. The palate. The guys who are really good at it, it really is an art. They spit it out and stuff. They don't even swallow it. Because otherwise they'd get fucked up. They could tell what it is by swirling it somehow in their mouth. Yeah. Well, you still get drunk, but you get drunk less swirling it somehow in their mouth. Yeah. Well, you still get drunk, but you get drunk less

quick than if you drink it all. Yeah. You know, it tastes good in your tongue. Sublingually, you're getting drunk. Some of them drink it, though. They just go old school and get that fucking Orson Welles pot belly and keep rocking it and keep hitting Sonoma hard every year.

Fucking pound that Santa Ynez wine. Yeah. I've never gone to one of those wine tasting things. Wine tasting things Santa Ynez wine. Yeah. I've never gone to one of those wine tasting things. Wine tasting things? Brian swears by it. Oh, it's great. It's fun. I don't want to be around a bunch of stinky drunks.

Are you good by yourself? Pretending to be cultured, wearing your fucking boat shoes. Get away from me. Dudes with those moccasins, with the fucking, those weird yellow shoelaces and their moccasins. Get out of here, man. I don't know what you're doing. Yeah, exactly. Those weird things.

I know what you're doing. Get out of here. We used to do gigs down there at the Ganey Winery. Ganey, you heard of that? Gigs? A band gig? Yeah, you know, shows. Yeah.

At the Ganey Winery. They have gigs at a winery? Yeah, yeah, outside. It used to be fun. It's like a party. Well, we're running out of time. So let's talk about your tank center and the new place that you guys are doing. And what's the difference between what you're doing and what a lot of these commercial places that are using these home tanks?

There's a real problem with that, right, as far as, like, infections and as far as safety and as far as, like, everything needs to be moved to a higher standard. That's certainly our opinion of the situation. and as far as safety and as far as, like, everything needs to be moved to a higher standard. That's certainly our opinion of the situation. You know, we've been working with NSF and the other state and local authorities then to get in tune with what's required as far as rules and regulations. As far as testing the water and stuff along those lines. That's our certification. We've been certified for that, which have a three log kill, what they call, which is 99.9 of all the microorganisms that are infected.

They infect the water. Then they see how long it takes to eradicate this infection. And obviously this is a big difference between someone who just has one that's only for them, only for their own personal use, which is like a lot of these more low end ones. And someone who is running a commercial business, sort of like the difference between your home pool and your swimming pool at the gym. I always like to say, you know, it's like opening a restaurant with an easy-bake oven. You know, it isn't appropriate.

Right. For appropriate, you see, this is not up to us to decide anyway. All that we've had to do is adhere to these standards and codes that have been set up by realistic people that understand. And you've helped with these, setting up these standards and codes that have been set up by realistic people that understand. And you've helped with setting up these standards and codes. Absolutely. This is a very important thing for you, right? Super important.

It's more important to us than anything else is this disinfection, this ability to disinfect this solution correctly between usages. Because we don't use chemicals, and we're all tested to do this three log. We actually did a seven log in a vessel. The vessel itself generally contaminates the specimen, but we have such a small body of water and such an intense system there of cleaning that they tested the material in the vessel

and we still got the three log and then surpassed that. But that's within one cleaning cycle without any use of chemicals. The problem with chemicals now, which is what everybody else has to do due to the fact that they are unwilling to spend the money on the disinfection process, which is this, I told you about this UV lights, like nine grand at 7,500 for the generators and stuff. It's a lot of bread to get it right, man. And the electrical stuff, see our UL listing as well, Underwriters Laboratory. This is electricity and people.

You're in a water and electricity. You can't, you know, Scooter McGee said it's okay or Shifty Williams over here. Shifty Williams. Yeah. Who are these people and what it makes them understand. Fucking Shifty. Yeah, fucking Shifty's got us before, you know. I mean, we've heard his story but the the facts are the facts you need to go into a laboratory and evaluate the situation correctly utilizing

you know methods of their ethical not not you know pouring this uh chemicals that chlorine and bromine and prox whatever it is your point is a breaking down now. This material and then creating a byproduct. This byproduct then, you're getting in there with it and you're sweating or pissing or spitting or whatever. Then you're mixing you with this ammonia or nitrogen. That's what a lot of people have an issue with. When I talk to them about the tank, they always say that. Like, I'm going to get in the water that someone else has been in.

That's fucking weird. They should have an issue with it. There is an issue with it. If these things are not dealt with properly, they're, you know, it's an infestation. And as the popularity of these things grows, this is something we really need to consider

because this is something that could become an issue for some folks. And I know that you're very conscientious about this. This is very important to you. And this is like one of the main focuses of conversation that we've had over the years is about this need to make sure that everything is like the same standards of the tanks that you have.

It's important for the people that are doing this to have a product then that is credible, that has been designed correctly, that's had a lot of time and effort spent to verify how it actually works and what it does. And does all the good and none of the harm. Right. Cuts all the potential harm out. All checked out and documented. Like I said, this is new at UL stuff too.

The amount of adjustments that we've had to do with the electrical aspects of this thing are tremendous. adjustments that we've had to do with the electrical aspects of this thing are tremendous. But by the time we're all – we've been working with them, what, now four years with NSF to try to establish these guidelines then for effective – Purification. Yes, for people then to do this. Because if you don't have it and people come away from it with a bad you know how long is it going to last the right the industry you know it needs to have guidelines and standards set up to adhere to then to become a credible you know industry well i commend the fact also that you're you're you're meeting it head-on before it becomes a big issue like there's

not a lot of people that are reporting like infections and not a lot of people that have become sick because of it. If this industry continues to grow, the potential instances of people not taking care of their water can rise. That could potentially damage the reputation that you fought so hard to try to let people know about

the positive benefits of this. I know you. You've been working on this for a long time, man. It's catching on now, right? Yeah. It's been something I've been dedicated to with you know all of my uh everything i have you know it's been involved in uh trying to get this right because it's it's important you know that uh that this technology is not overlooked right now we need to get a hold you see if it's set up with these little Mickey Mouse second-rate rigs, the authorities are not going to okay it. They're not going to allow it. We've already been- But they allow it right now. They allow it now because it's unregulated. Okay,

so it's going to eventually be regulated? Absolutely. That's what this, we showed you this- Right. I know, but to people that are listening, when is this all going to take place? It's happening now. We have a task group that's been formed with both the Canadian Ministry of Health and several health and safety officials here in this country, statewide, local-wise, and NSF, National Sanitization Foundation, to set up these guidelines. So they're realizing that this industry is growing and they're stepping in. Absolutely. Absolutely. We were at a task group. What was that thing called?

We went to a thing and they had callers calling in. It was the most asked about subject, the topic that they had conversated about at this. It was called a task. What was the meeting called? Do you think that it's possible for you to make two different tanks to make a commercial fully sanitized unit and make a unit for the home that's less complex and more affordable we see we were thinking about that because naturally that would be a good business uh sense but we got back to the point again it's like in order to do it right this is what it costs i mean we could make it mickey mouse or whatever but is it mickey mouse consumer? Like, say if it's just you. Okay, Crash lives by himself.

Crash loves to do the isolation tank. Crash is not going to jerk off or pee in his tank. Or if I do, I'll be in there with myself. Ew. You know what I mean? It's like a... But if you're going into some place and it's these people and those people, it's not, you know. Right.

But what's happening then, what we were doing was trying to, you know, people, they're cheap. So they're going to say, oh, I'll buy the cheap one. Well, first of all, people are broke, too. Broke. That's true. It's fucking super expensive to buy one of those things. That's correct. And that's fair.

I mean, I know that the equipment is really costly and it's really high end. But all I'm trying to say is, with our last five minutes of time before we turn into a pumpkin, all I'm trying to say is, is it possible that it could be made into a consumer unit? Yes, it would be, but back to the liability. See, in order to get this right and not harm anybody by this, you know, different things, it's not easy. Like he's telling you some of these components. How much more do you have to say about this stuff?

Do you want to do another hour? Want to shut this off and do another hour? Are you cool to talk about this or are you running out of gas? I'm not running out of gas. I don't run out of gas. Let's just wrap this up because we're running out of time. We'll wrap this up. We'll be right back in about 10 more minutes.

I have nine minutes. I always give you an extra. That's okay. I always add an extra five minutes. We'll wrap it up. We'll wrap it up and we'll come right back. All right. So thanks to Onnit.com. Go to O-N-N-I-T. that's okay we'll wrap it up we'll wrap it up and we'll come right back alright so

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give you a chance to go into a lot of these issues that we talked about before so we'll be right back with Crash it probably won't be

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