The Joe Rogan Experience - #598 - Joey "CoCo" Diaz

Episode Date: January 12, 2015

Joey “CoCo” Diaz is a Cuban-American stand up comedian and actor. Joey also hosts his own podcast called “The Church of What’s Happening Now”, available on Spotify. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Your problem with Brian's fucking microphone listen that goddamn fan God that fan sucks Yeah until you when you turn your mic up and down when you're gonna have to do that when you talk because that microphones dog Shit, yeah, just keep you careful your drink there The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night! All day! You're right. That thing's loud as heck out over here.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yeah. Are we live? Yeah. Okay, yeah, that thing's loud as fuck. We have a problem here, folks. It's not a major problem. We have this new TriCaster set up. HD Joe Diaz. Oh, shit. We're in HD now, but unfortunately, the TriCaster has fans on it.
Starting point is 00:00:44 It's super noisy where Brian's microphone is positioned. Maybe I could just sit over there till we fix this. Sit over there, yeah. Sit over there and we'll throw a camera on you and let Jamie run it. Fuck it. Yeah, come on over here, bitch. Let's do it, baby.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Be one of us. Come over to the big boys table. We got this TriCaster set up, and it's pretty sweet. It's because a lot of people watch this on their televisions. You know, you take, like, Chromecast, or you just use an HDMI cable. There's a bunch of different ways you could do it. And you send...or you could use that Apple thing
Starting point is 00:01:15 where you throw it to Apple TV, and you could watch it on Apple TV. What is that called? Apple TV AirPlay. AirPlay, yeah. So anything that's on your computer, you could watch on TV. You just shoot it to that,
Starting point is 00:01:26 and if you're using the air... That's how it works, right? Yeah. You can do it from your iPad or your iPhone or anything like that. Yeah, it's pretty fucking sweet. So we're moving into 2015, Joe Diaz. It's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:38 We're taking shit to the next level. My wife canceled cable. Did she really? Yeah, she kept some package. She said, that's it. We will live on Netflix. I love it. Well, I got to tell you.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I love it. I love it, too. I love it. I ain't going to lie to you. When I come home at night from comedy, Netflix, and I unwind, and I can watch whatever the fuck I want. Yeah. A buddy of mine worked for SyFy for 20 years,
Starting point is 00:01:58 and he said, I got it once because I would watch how my children would watch TV. Mm-hmm. And I knew that they were on to something. Yeah. I watched kids. Yeah. And I knew that they were onto something. Yeah. They watch kids. Yeah. And I kept going to Syfy and telling them,
Starting point is 00:02:08 and they were like, fuck, you don't know what you're talking about. He quit. And he started his own YouTube channel, Horror Show, and he's fucking killing them. But it's funny how even my daughter goes nuts when a commercial comes on. When she's watching Bubble Guppies
Starting point is 00:02:21 and a commercial comes on, she's two, and she looks at me like, ah, because she's not used to it on Netflix when I put on Dora or whatever. Yeah. The Grinch that Stole Christmas or whatever. There's no commercials. So for her, it's fucking that. So I watched her the other day, and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:02:35 look at this. Yeah. Even a fucking two-year-old tells you that commercials suck ass. Yeah, they're not fun. It's unnecessary, and it ruins the vibe of the show. I watched The Walking Dead almost entirely on Netflix, or on Apple TV, rather. But I decided to record it on my DVR one night,
Starting point is 00:02:53 and I tried watching it on regular TV. Oh, it's fucking awful. I watched it. Oh, that's what it was. I watched it live without recording it. Because you can't watch it on Apple TV until the next day. So it came out on Sunday, so I watched it live. So we just paused it and watched it. Oh, that's what it was. I watched it live without recording it because you can't watch it on Apple TV until the next day. So it came out on Sunday, so I watched it live. So we just paused it and walked away for 20 minutes and came back so we could fast-forward
Starting point is 00:03:12 through all the bullshit. But it's like every fucking 15 minutes, they have this big break, and the show stops, and it's a dumb way to intrude on television. It's like for whatever reason, they started doing it like that, and they stuck with it. And some guys do it like that with podcasts. Like, I love Adam Carolla,
Starting point is 00:03:31 but Adam Carolla does commercials like a radio show. He does them all the time. He does them every 15 minutes. You know, he's got, like, breaks, like hard breaks, just like a radio show. I guess that's the world he came from. So he decided to just do it that way. Well, these new marketing agencies that contact you now,
Starting point is 00:03:50 they're trying to ruin you. They've dangled big money at you, but they want you to read 18 times a show. You can't do that. It becomes what we went to get away from. Yeah. You know, so, no. I don't interrupt.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I won't interrupt. I won't interrupt. I do it before. I do it afterwards. I'll put shit on Twitter. If I think it's a good product and I enjoy it, I'll do it. But I'll do it with no contract. Like, if I tweet something, like, if you see me tweet something about NatureBox, it's because I like it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Like, I got these sriracha cashews. They're the shit. They're the shit. I love them. I love them. So I tweet it. Like, there's no agreement. I don't have a, there's no, like, you have to tweet this five times a week. There's none of that. No, I don't the shit. I love them. I love them. So I tweet it. Like, there's no agreement. I don't have a... There's no, like, you have to tweet this five times a week.
Starting point is 00:04:26 There's none of that. No, I don't tweet shit. So I don't interrupt any podcasts, and I don't... Because I don't want that. When I'm listening to stuff, I like stuff to go all the way through to the end. And I'd be more inclined to support something that supported that than I would be to incline support something that's that same old system. That system sucks, man.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That every 15-minute system. You don't do it. You don't have commercials on any of your fucking podcasts. I don't do any commercials, yeah. None at all. That's silly. You need to make some money. Well, I usually just say, hey, go do, if you want to help out,
Starting point is 00:04:53 just go to Shop Squad, and then that just takes care of everything in one little swoop. Are we rocking a split screen now? Old school, like the old days? Oh, shit. We're going old, but we're going new again. Now, what's... I'm sorry, what's in between Apple TV and Netflix?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Well, Netflix is incorporated in Apple TV, so if you have an Apple TV, there's Netflix in there. You just got to sign up for an account. But you said that Apple comes out the next day. Netflix... Yeah, no, Netflix doesn't have... I don't think they have The Walking Dead. If they do, it's probably, like, the earlier seasons.
Starting point is 00:05:24 With Apple, you buy the whole season. Like, you rent a season, and you can watch, like, all the episodes at once. Which is legit. If you haven't done... Do you watch Walking Dead? No, I'm scared of that shit. Fuck you. You know, when I was a kid, I went to the one.
Starting point is 00:05:36 We would get high and go to Dawn of the Dead and those type of movies, you know? And that was George Romero was the fucking crazy fuck when I was a kid. That's the guy that made all those movies. Yeah, Night of the Living Dead. And I still remember that one thing with the black guys yelling,
Starting point is 00:05:53 Mama, Mama, and he stands next to the helicopter, and the helicopter just cuts the top of his fucking head off. Oh, God. Like, I just never, and I, you know, I don't know. It's not for me, people walking around like zombies and shit. I have fucking nightmares and stuff,, I don't know. It's not for me, people walking around like zombies and shit. I have fucking nightmares and stuff, so I don't watch nothing. American Horror Story is probably one of the scariest
Starting point is 00:06:11 motherfucking shows I've turned on and lasted for, like, 13 or 14 minutes. Is it really? That lady's fucking scary, dog. Oh, yeah. What is her name again? She used to be good-looking. Hot as fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah, hot as fuck when we were young. What is her name? Goddamn, it's not Faye Ray. Angelica Houston, something like that. Not Angelica Houston, the other one. She was in The Mailman Always Rings Twice, The Postman Always Rings Twice. God damn, she was hot back then.
Starting point is 00:06:34 What is her name, man? She tried Jessica Lange? Jessica Lange. Yes, that's who it is. You know, she was Faye Ray in the King Kong remake, the Dino De Laurentiis, is that his name uh king kong remake with rick baker which is like that was like the second king kong there was like the the old school king kong it's a stop motion claymation that looked like but then uh rick baker did a
Starting point is 00:06:56 version of king kong that was super sophisticated for the time and uh she was jessica lang was the the fey rain she was hot as when jack nichol Faye Reign. She was hot as fuck. Girl, when Jack Nicholson put her on the table and fucked in that movie, it was tremendous. Look at her. She looked great. Yeah, she was smoldering. But you know what, man? She, as an actress, like, or an actor, I guess you say, doesn't need to be gender specific.
Starting point is 00:07:18 She fucking holds her own right now. She is as good as anybody, man. She's so creepy on that show. She's so, like, powerfully creepy. You know, like, there's just a realism to the crazy that she projects. It scares the shit out of me, man. And the black chick is on there, too. The one that played Tina Turner with...
Starting point is 00:07:42 Is she? She's in the new season? I haven't watched the new season. She's a fat chick from the cut-off Jack... Khan's Legs, James Khan's Leg, and... Kathy Bates is in it? Kathy Bates is... Oh, my God, she's a motherfucker. It's a fucking scary-ass fucking show.
Starting point is 00:07:55 My wife watches. I walk past her, I'm like, fuck you, I keep walking. Do you have to watch the older seasons to be caught up, or is it a new season, a totally new story? I don't know how it fucking works, man. You just tune in and freak out and get out of the room? I sit down for like eight minutes, I watch Jessica Lange, I watch the black chick,
Starting point is 00:08:13 and I get the fuck out of there. That's hilarious. I can't deal with that shit at all. I watched Angel Heart, I couldn't sleep for fucking... Angel Heart was on a couple weeks ago, and I stayed up and watched it, fucking scared the shit out of me. It's really well written,
Starting point is 00:08:27 because they set up the first episodes. I don't want to give any spoiler alerts, but a family moves into this house, and, uh, Jessica Lange is, like, the neighbor. Or she comes by, and she comes by, like, unannounced. It's real creepy how she does it. And, you know, you know she's fucking nuts. And so the guy's there with his wife and his children,
Starting point is 00:08:44 and you're like, oh, fuck. Like, this is going to end terrible. It, like, draws you in, like, right away. You get nervous, and you feel freaked out, like, right away. Do you have Hulu, Joey? Did you ever get Hulu? I think so. Yeah, I got Hulu.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I quit my cable also, and Hulu is actually one of the best ones because you can do shows usually the day after or at the same day. Like South Park's a good one on there if you like South Park. What networks do they have? They have a lot of Fox ones. They have Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah, they have a lot of NBC, like Saturday Night Live and stuff like that. It's a nice blend of all the main networks. And also, they also have movies on there. So it's a nice little change from... Also, Amazon Prime is another thing. If you have Amazon Prime, you get access to all of Amazon Prime's stuff. Also, they have their own shows.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And you can also rent movies through them, which is nice. Wow. Yeah, it's all the options that are available today. You're not the first person to tell me either. I have several friends that have cancer. People said, I don't want to do a buck and a half no more.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm not doing it. Yeah, it no more. I'm not doing it. Yeah, it seems ridiculous. I'm not doing it. Netflix is $7 a month. I mean, it's $7. Like, that's so insane. And the other one's $8.99. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So for $20, you got everything. And I think CBS just announced that they have something for like $5, and you just get all of the CBS, which is silly because you can get it for free already, but I guess the convenience of downloading whatever you want. HBO's going, right? They're going to, if you just want to watch Game of Thrones, fuck the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Yeah, yeah, you just go HBO online, right? Just go HBO online. It's pretty much becoming a la carte, which is something that I've always wanted in a cable company, being able to pick and choose which, uh, channels you want. Cable companies are screwed. Yeah, and when you develop a show,
Starting point is 00:10:22 like if you were, when I was doing that sci-fi show, you film the show, you edit it, and once it's edited, then it has to wait for, you know, whatever night it's on. Tuesday night at 8 o'clock, whatever it is. And then you wait for it to go on, and then the show broadcasts live Tuesday night at 8, and they sandwich in a bunch of shit that you don't want to see.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So in between that, you're watching Prilosec commercials and fucking Toyota commercials and all this shit that you don't give a fuck. You're just being... They're literally fucking with your experience. Just, come on, buy me. Come on, buy this. Hey, what about this? I feel better. Look at my wife. Look at my car.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da! Next one. Bam! What about us? You could buy us, too. What about us? Do you have insurance? Is your insurance run by a lizard? And they have all this fucking goofy shit and it ruins your experience. They don't have to do that anymore. What are they going to do for commercials?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Product placements, I think, mostly. That's even grosser. And I think that's the reason why we're paying a monthly subscription fee. If you're holding up a fucking soda and you're like, I know why he killed her. It's done right, though. South Park is a good example of them doing it right, where they actually, I think, have sponsors,
Starting point is 00:11:31 but they just trash the sponsor the whole time. Really? Yeah. Because out of nowhere, just one episode, they'll be doing, like, Dr. Pepper. But yet they just talk mad shit on Dr. Pepper the whole time. You could talk shit on Dr. Pepper, and Dr. Pepper's basically invincible. Yeah. Like, as long as you're shit on Dr. Pepper the whole time. You could talk shit on Dr. Pepper, and Dr. Pepper's basically invincible.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. Like, as long as you're talking about Dr. Pepper, unless it's killing anybody, it's not killing anybody. But if you want to talk shit about the way Dr. Pepper tastes, you ain't affecting anybody. You know, I noticed that one night I was watching Diane Soy, the day that fucko said something. Who's the guy that said, oh, Rush Limbaugh took the pills?
Starting point is 00:12:04 He took pills, you know. Oh, he was theugh took the pills? He took pills, you know. Oh, he was, yeah, Oxycontin. He took pills 20 years ago. But then a couple years ago on his radio show, he said something. I'm sitting there watching Diane Sawyer, and she pops up on the screen, and all of a sudden they pop up the sponsors that left him.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Those sponsors were like, fuck Rush Limbaugh. We just hit the jackpot. That's what they don't really realize. If they sponsor Joey Diaz's radio show, and he says, fuck whoever, whatever genre group, and they get rid of him. Diane Sawyer's going to come up and go, did you hear what happened to Joey Diaz today?
Starting point is 00:12:36 And all of a sudden they show American Airlines, Delta. Delta's going, we didn't lose. We fucking 630, Diane Sawyer. That's as good as it fucking gets. That's it. They didn't gets. Yeah. That's it. They didn't lose. So either way, you don't lose because they mention you. Nobody loses.
Starting point is 00:12:50 They don't really fucking lose. Did you see what happened with, uh, here's a perfect example. I'm not trashing Adam Carolla. Like I said, I love Adam. But Adam, uh, had this chick, Alison Rosen, who was on her show, and he just decided he wanted to try something different,
Starting point is 00:13:03 which is his prerogative. But here's what happened. Her show shot through the fucking ratings. It was number one out of all podcasts on iTunes. And, you know, why? Because people responded, because she's really nice. Like, Alison Rosen is really nice and really smart, and she's a good podcaster.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So, like, I think, and I even sent her an email. I said, you're going gonna be fantastic on your own. Like, you don't need anybody. Like, it's probably better for her to be completely independent because I think her show could be really profitable. It could be really good. And I think when you're that smart and that opinionated, you should have your own show.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I mean, she's really good. People always liked her. Yeah, she's great. People have always had a following. And she had her own show for a long time. No, she still has it. Alison Rosen is your best friend, or your new best friend. So when she got fired, her show just shot up.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Shot through the fucking ratings. Shot up through the fucking roof. And I think that just shows you that, like, if it gets out there, if there's controversy, like, oh, Alison got fired. Poor Alison. Poor Alison! What, are you crazy? She's number one now. She's number one. She's shot past all of us.
Starting point is 00:14:07 She probably... Because there were so many online stories about it. And, you know... Because the timing was really bad for her. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dog just died. A dog died, and she was out of town, and it was done by email. You know, there was, like, a lot going on with it.
Starting point is 00:14:20 But, you know, hey, man, I... The guy should be able to do whatever the fuck he wants to do with his show. But the bottom line is, like, she showed that she was really good on the show. And then the controversy of him firing her was huge. It was way better than him, like, giving her, like, some title or a promotion.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Or, you know, like, if he announced Alison Rosen been vice president of controversy at Adam Carolla Enterprises, nobody would give a fuck. But her getting fired for it. Like, if you got on the radio and you were like, fuck the Pope, fuck Castro, fuck all these cocksuckers, suck my dick. And then, you know, NatureBox pulled out and everybody got crazy. We are no longer sponsoring the Joey. And it was a big, all over these websites.
Starting point is 00:15:03 NatureBox pulls out of the Joey Diaz podcast. You would get hundreds of thousands more downloads that week, hundreds of thousands. Offers. Look at... What's his name? Uh, two and a half... Man. Charlie Sheen. Yeah. He got fired, drugs, hookers, blow. Fuck, FX is right there with an envelope.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Not only were they there with an envelope, they gave him the stupidest deal anyone's ever given anybody ever. He made all the episodes. They did a 100-episode deal, and they make them over a really short period of time. So they're just churning out scripts. Like, you... I don't have to tell you.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It takes time to write something good. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you have the best idea. Like, you'll hear about Quentin Tarantino. He did blow. He ran up to his apartment real quick, and he just spent the next six hours writing a script to, you know, Pulp Fiction 2 or some shit. Occasionally that does happen.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Like, Hunter Thompson wrote most of his... The book he wrote about Hell's Angels, he wrote most of it coked up, like, in one night. Like, most of it. Like, he finished up the book, like, in one night, just rattled off. It is possible, like most of it. Like, he finished up the book, like, in one night, just rattled off. It is possible. But most of the time, you gotta spend time, you gotta do revisions, so they're not doing any of that.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They're just fucking slamming them out there. And if it went past X amount of episodes, I forget what the deal was, they had to film all 90, so he got this huge deal. So he made, like, $900 million or something stupid, or $90 million, just some ungodly sum of money from that deal. Something with a nine in it. Jamie would know.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I bet Jamie knows the exact number. I bet he's got it tattooed. Well, he was talking about it all morning today. Uh... I love gossip, Jamie. The whole idea makes me laugh. But it's the... The controversy for anything is almost, like, worth doing.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's why, you know, people, they stir up shit on purpose. Like, anybody that's in, like, the reality show business, they, like, all they're doing is just controversy, controversy, controversy. Can we get some controversy? If we have controversy, we got a show. Controversy. Da-da-da-da. I mean, that's all they're trying to sell. That's all they'reroversy. Da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I mean, that's all they're trying to sell. That's all they're trying to sell. But you can see right through it. You can. I can. Once you see a reality show, I'm like, this is bullshit. This is the white chick who caught the black husband with a transvestite and took him back.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And the show's on E! And she's like, what do I do with such a tough? He was with a fucking transvestite. You get rid of that fucking freak. And now she took him back again, and now they're on season eight, and... You know, who even cares about that fucking broad? I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:35 People care if they put him on the cover of a magazine. Like, if you cut on the cover of a magazine, and that's what you sell, like those reality star type people. It just has to be, they're on the cover, and then something happens. She dumped him for this guy. There's a more handsome guy. Shit, now he's in the dumps.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Mm. That's all you need to do. And all you need to do, and then people go, well, what happens next? What happens to him? What happens to her? Will they be reunited? Will she forgive him? Will he forgive her? Ah, they got me hooked. I mean, you don't even know
Starting point is 00:18:03 what Kim Kardashian's fucking voice sounds like. Do you understand that? Like, you would not be able to tell that. If Kim Kardashian's fucking voice sounds like. Do you understand that? Like, you would not be able to tell that. If Kim Kardashian was doing a commercial for Delta, you wouldn't be like, oh, that's Kim Kardashian. But if, like, say, um, what's her name, uh, from Friends, uh...
Starting point is 00:18:17 Jennifer Aniston. No, the other one. Phoebe. Phoebe Cates. What's her, what's her... No, not Phoebe Cates. Lisa Kudrow. Lisa Kudrow, thank you. Let's gossip Jamie. You hear how funny it is when he turns the mic on?
Starting point is 00:18:27 I know. Turn it on for a second just so everybody can hear the fan. That is so stupid. That's ridiculous. That's so stupid. We're working it out, folks. We're working it out. Gossip Jamie.
Starting point is 00:18:36 The video looks beautiful, though. What is her name again? Courtney Cox. Lisa Kudrow. Lisa Kudrow. Fucking guys. That big tip of his finger. Have you ever seen Courtney Cox's show? No, I have not. With the fucking plastic surgery. Oh, I Kudrow. Fucking guys. Big tip of his fingers. He's very talented.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Have you ever seen Courtney Cox's show? No, I have not. With the fucking plastic surgery. Oh, I've seen her. And they put friends before it some nights on, like, TNT. Just to fuck with her? Well, sometimes they have that. Yeah, they have her on TNT and something on TBS.
Starting point is 00:19:00 They have friends on TBS. And Cougar Town, you're in a hotel room after doing a show, and you go, and there they are. And you're like, oh my God, what the fuck happened? That fucking plastic surgery those chicks do, it doesn't make them look better. It just makes them look different. You know, it's like when you start shooting shit into your face to freeze it up and puff your cheeks up to hide wrinkles, it does not make you look better. It just makes you look different.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And there's the uncanny valley. You know what the uncanny valley is? They do the... This is a term they use for video games where, with CGI, they're really close to being able to completely replicate what a person normally looks like. Don't pull up her face.
Starting point is 00:19:37 No, no, no, I'm not. Don't be rude, you son of a bitch. This motherfucker is gonna... Uncanny valley, like... There's, like, um... There's some videos that you can see now, like, that Nvidia has created, where they are so close to it looking...
Starting point is 00:19:52 What is this? What are you showing? The Uncanny Valley. It shows you all the different stuff. They're not seeing it, but this is for us. Oh. It's all the different versions of the Uncanny Valley. I'll pop it up so they can see it. Okay, well, let me just explain the term. Don't pull this this up um the the term that they use in in you're confusing the
Starting point is 00:20:08 shit out yeah i have no idea what's going on this has nothing to do with that that's a different uncanny valley the the uncanny valley that we're talking about is the difference between cgi like high level cgi and a person like it's so close but there's something creepy about it and that's what they call it the uncanny valley there's this valley that they can't quite cross. Like, did you see... The dead eye. Yeah. Well, did you see the latest NVIDIA shit?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Have you seen that? Not the latest. I'm pretty sure we could show that. Show NVIDIA's latest technology for CGI. Oh, the guy's face. Yeah, the guy's face. We saw it in person, me and Todd Messero from my TV show. We went to see it in person in Northern California.
Starting point is 00:20:48 That's it. That's the guy. It's fucking incredible, man. But it still hasn't bridged that uncanny valley. We can show this on the podcast. Yeah. This is all Nvidia's technology. And they have pores. They have sweat.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But what they can't do is tongues. So when the guy's talking, they can't quite do tongues. And the teeth look a little fucking weird. His eyes look dead. Yeah. But goddamn, that's pretty close. That's getting real close. But there's still something about it where you're like,
Starting point is 00:21:21 man, I don't know. They got skin down, but they don't have edge down. Like the edge detection around the forehead, you can see it's a little weird. Yeah, like a green screen, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's like the difference between the... Well, it's also... Why is everything in the background blurry?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Yeah. You know? Well, I guess that's just a sample, but still, it's... But you're pretending what this is an old-school camera? Is that what you're doing? Like, why is that... Why is that shit all blurry like that? That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And his head's floating. But that's, that's like real close. But they still, they can't do that yet. You know, they can't, I don't know why we were bringing up the uncanny valley. Lisa Cruz. Because of fucking people with plastic surgery. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Cause they got that uncanny fucking valley. That's what it is. They all look the same. And they're all starting to look creepy and creepier. And they're not all going to be happy until they all look like Walking Dead or something like that. They're all going to be hanging out together. Oh, yours looks great.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Did you get it done? No, you don't look fucking great. You look like a fucking something. You look monstrous. They start looking monstrous. It's unfortunate. And it looks crazy. know, it looks crazy. Like, you're a crazy person.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Like, you're doing, you know... It's not like some tribal thing where you're doing, like, some tribal scarring on your face. The women from Mob Wives. Have you ever seen those women? No. The big one, Big Ang? I just saw her last night when I was scrolling.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah? Oh, my God. They just... She's shooting shit like Jail Sonnen. She's just shooting shit constantly. All those women, those East Coast women, the fake tits, the fat taking off their body, the tightening the legs, the ass implants. You can put implants in your ass.
Starting point is 00:23:01 By the way, dog, I've been torturing this hooker for about a month. What hooker? Bobby Slay, I've been torturing this hooker for about a month. What hooker? Bobby Slayton style. Just torturing her. Torturing her. You know who? I went to 7-Eleven one night on Magnolia there.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And I come out, and there's a black girl in a Jeep that is banging. And she comes out, and she goes, are you a stand-up? I'm like, yeah. She goes, I really like to get into stand-up. I'd like to talk more about it. I go, there's an open mic at the Ha Ha. I go down there. She goes, I've been down there get into stand-up. I'd like to talk more about it. I go, there's an open mic at the Ha Ha. I go down there.
Starting point is 00:23:26 She goes, I've been down there, but the guy's rude to me and all this shit. So I go down there like three weeks later, and I see her. And I'm like, hey, man, you been trying this? She goes, no, I'm still taking notes. I mean, this chick is gorgeous. She goes, I'm still taking notes, but you can tell there's something not right. You know when there's something not right. So she's like, you know, I just need somebody
Starting point is 00:23:45 to take me under their wing and do it to me and all this stuff. Can I get your digits? And I'll give you a call. And then she started with the calls, you know, how are you, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I'm fine. She goes, when can we?
Starting point is 00:23:56 I can't, you know, I can't teach you comedy. You got to go out there and do it, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then finally I would go, well, go here. You know, go over there. Go to fly. I don't know where the hell else to go. And I wouldn't talk to her for weeks at a time. And she'd call me, like, where you going? I'm going to the comedy store.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Can you talk to them for me? I can't get you up at the fucking comedy store. And then one day she started talking about how Jeep blew up and she needs $1,000. You know, right there I just started giggling. Like, I just knew. Now, once they do that, you're intrigued. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:23 To see where it goes. Now you want to talk to them. Right. Because she's trying to play you're intrigued. Right. To see where it goes. Now you want to talk to them. Right. Because she's trying to play you. Right. So then finally I got the call one night. She's like, are you going to be home in the next ten minutes?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Can I call you back? I'm busy right now. Yeah. And I know she's got to be like a stripper or something, you know, because she disappears. Like, she'll call me like at eight and go, are you doing comedy tonight? Yeah. I'm doing the spot 11. All right, I'm going to come see you.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And then I'll never see her. And then she'll call me like a week later and go, she always disappears if it's after like 10. So she does something. Right. You know what I'm saying? So finally, she called me one night, and I just, I'm like, I don't even want to talk to this.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I can't even have fun with her. Right. Because she's trying to lie to me. At least if she would just tell me she was a hooker, I would torment her. Right. So finally, I would torment her. So finally the clouds parted. And she's like, you know, I really need this $1,000. I really need $2,700.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But I could take $1,000 to help me out. So you need $2,700. But I could take $1,000. But you could take $1,000. But I could take $1,000 to help me out. Like, you're like, well, I don't know. She's a DJ. Supposedly she's a DJ. She DJs, too. That's why I don't know. Yeah, and she's a DJ. Supposedly she's a DJ. She DJs, too.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's why I don't see her late night. Because, ah, DJ, you know? OK. What are you DJ? Oh, I just do independent parties. Really? What do you make? $500 a night.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Then what the fuck do you need $1,000 for? Well, you know, they want $3,000 for my Jeep and shit. So I finally said, this fucking bitch is crazy. I'm not going to give her any money. So the other night, I pull up at 7-Eleven.ven i'm not gonna give her no fucking money joe you're crazy i pull up at 7-eleven i see her at the counter and i'm sitting with lee and she comes out and she's like how come you won't return my calls no more what's wrong with you i go listen i've just been busy you know i'm doing comedy over the valley down over the hill you're never around
Starting point is 00:26:03 i can't help you. She's like, you really got to help me with that money. Me and Leah Howland, because I told Leah about it. Me and Leah Howland. She hasn't seen you in a week, and she's right up to you. Weeks, yeah. You really got to help me with that money. Yeah, you really got to help me with that paper.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So I said, all right, let me drop Leah home, and I'll call you. So I called, and I go, listen, how much do you need? She goes, $1,000. I go, listen, I'm not just going to give you $1,000. She goes, then what do you want to do? I go, well, if I give you $1,000, I'm going to put it in every orifice in your fucking body. And there was like silence, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm not going to fuck this chick, you know. I know, I know. You're just playing. I'm just pushing. I hate when women try to play you. Like, just tell me you want to suck dick and I'll give you the G-note. And she still refuses. She's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I to suck dick and I'll give you the G-note. And she still refuses.
Starting point is 00:26:46 She's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I go, listen, if I give you the $1,000, I'm going to stick it in your fucking ass. I mean, this ain't no game. And she's like, okay. She said okay? She broke. She goes, where are we going to go?
Starting point is 00:26:58 I go, I'm taking it to a hotel, wherever the fuck. Oh, that's hilarious. And I go, meet me on the corner by the gym now. I'm like, that bitch hilarious. And I go, meet me on the corner by the gym now. I'm like... That bitch is still waiting. She's been calling me since Thursday night, every hour at the hour. Where you at, boo?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Where you at, boo? I need that money. You gotta help me with that paper. I'll go halfsies with somebody if you wanna go halfsies. Nothing bothers me more... I want the bottom half, though. Nothing bothers me more. I gotta tell you something, Brian, she's fucking amazing. Half seats. I want the bottom half, though. Nothing bothers me more. I got to tell you something, Brian.
Starting point is 00:27:26 She's fucking amazing. Yeah? 7-Eleven, corner of what? She said she's from Jersey. Yeah, we'll talk. Magnolia and 7-Eleven. Dude, you're giving out her spot. Come on, Joey.
Starting point is 00:27:40 You're blowing up her spot. She needs $1,000. Someone's going to go down there and go, you know, Joey Diaz has been talking shit about you. I don't give a fuck. She needs $1,000. Someone's going to go down there and go, you know, Joey Diaz has been talking shit about you. I don't give a fuck. She needs $1,000. I ain't going to give it to her. Someone's going to find her and put a camera in her face.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Listen to me. There's a black chick for months that's a fucking 10 with a blonde wig that I've seen her walk in that studio. In fact, she hangs out outside of Gelson's and waits for old Jewish men. Really? I've seen her. I've parked there. My wife has gone to Gelson's and waits for old Jewish men. Really? I've seen her.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I've parked there. My wife has gone to Gelson's. I waited outside with the baby and seen her with a blonde wig. I've been in that coffee shop. And she walks by, and everybody looks at her. She's young. She's young, because she came into the coffee shop once, and she started asking us questions about where this at,
Starting point is 00:28:21 like playing us, you know, like just in case somebody said you look good. Right. Well, I ain't busy right now. What are you doing? Like, just in case somebody said, -"You look good." -"Right." Well, I ain't busy right now. What are you doing? You can tell she's a woman. They get away with it. Oh, yeah. She's a professional. The young girl does it right. She doesn't wear the heels.
Starting point is 00:28:34 She has the backpack, you know? She's the real deal. I've seen her up and down that fucking thing for months. So this girl, if you do it right, they, you know, they get away with it. With the backpack and no sexy clothing. You know, with a blonde wig. Black and blonde wig always makes me think transgender.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Black and blonde? Yeah, black, red... Red-headed wig, they're good? That's the Brian test. Her hair is bright orange. The blonde wig is weird. Blonde wig is weird? On a black lady.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Oh, okay. Yeah. It just looks kind of like you're disguise-y. It's odd. Well, it's, you know, you should be able to wear whatever the fuck you want to wear, but when I see like a Chinese chick with blonde hair, or an Asian chick with blonde hair, or a black chick with blonde hair, I'm like, you look good with black hair. You don't have to do that. Right. But what difference does it make?
Starting point is 00:29:19 Eve looks good with blonde hair. Who's Eve? Eve, the chick from that TV show, the rapper. What TV show is that? I don't with blonde hair. Who's Eve? Eve, the chick from that TV show, the rapper. What TV show is that? I don't know. Eve. Jamie, you know what it is. What's the name of the show?
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's Eve from like the 90s, early 2000s rap music. She's tall. She's in barbershop. She has blonde hair. Not this fucking guy. That looks like the old manager from the Comedy Store. Eve is fucking right there. But she looks good with... She's big, Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:29:49 That's a big mama. That's a pretty girl. Yeah, she's good looking. I like her. Look at her, yeah. She's in barbershop. But I think she wears a blonde wig. That's her hair.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Bleach blonde, it looks like. That's nice. No, she's banging, guys. And she's tall. Well, so many black chicks wear weaves, it looks like. That's nice. No, she's banging, guys, and she's tall. Well, so many black chicks wear weaves, you know, which is really strange. Like, they wear hair, like, kind of sewn into their hair. Have you ever smelled it?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Mm. It smells funny. Yeah. It's got oils and stuff in it. I've hugged a black chick. Funny, like, Carrot Top or funny, like, Louis C.K.? Funny, fucked up funny. Funny like gasoline and fucking odors. Like, she'll fucking explode if I have a joint next to her ear.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I got a thing to be some fermenting going on, right? And it's hard. It's not... Like, never mind. I can't say that story. But you feel the weave when you run your fingers through it? Yeah, you can't really. It feels like plastic. There's a whole bunch of different kinds. Like, Tiffany Haddish had one that was, like, plastic, where it felt like the... It looked like the Predator's hair.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And have you seen Tiffany Haddish's hair lately? Now she just has this humongous, like, 70s fro. Nice. And every time she's in a picture with somebody, it looks like she's, like, in between two ferns. It's great. Yeah, we know this documentary, Jamie. Shut all this shit off.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Good hair. So, weaves this documentary, Jamie. Shut all this shit up. Good hair. So, weaves is like what the blonde girl had. Uh, hello. Yes. Weave. That's a weave. I'm talking about what black girls had. Yeah, that's a weave, too. Okay. It's a hair weave. I was confused. We can get a weave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Guys can get weaves. Yeah, they just sew your hair onto other hair. Like Nicolas Cage in all his movies. Yeah. He gets a fucking weave in everything. Well, they also have these wigs that have what... It's like a lace front, so it looks like your skin. Like, they glue it to your head, and it looks like the hair is coming right out of your skin until you get right up in there, and you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:32 what the fuck's going on there? Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, they don't have that downright either, because, like, there's that show Undercover Boss. I don't know if you ever see that, where they take, like, a CEO of, like, Boston Market, and then he gets thrown in as a regular employee. because there's that show Undercover Boss. I don't know if you ever see that, where they take a CEO of Boston Market, and then he gets thrown in as a regular employee
Starting point is 00:31:49 at one of their stores. And it's cool because he catches all the things wrong with his store and people don't know. But they always give him the dumbest fake mustache, and it looks so fake. And all the employees have to be like, all right, what is this, Undercover Boss? There's something on there.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The employees are probably all in on it. It's probably all horseshit. And then there's so much of those shows, they're faking the be like, all right, what is this, undercover boss? The employees are probably all in on it. It's probably all horse shit. So much of those shows, they're faking. Like, what? I'm in trouble? What? Like, so many of them are set up in advance. And especially ones that make people look bad. Because you've got to think, like,
Starting point is 00:32:17 how much are they going to pay this person to ruin their life? What are they going to give you, $1,500? Like, what scale on one of those shows? They're going to ruin your life. And you agree to this. They can't just film you and put you on500? Like, what scale on one of those shows? They're going to ruin your life, and you agree to this. They can't just film you and put you on television. Like, you have to sign a waiver. Yeah, well, they say how they do that is they say it's a different reality show.
Starting point is 00:32:33 It's like, this is a reality show about a guy that's, he's a waiter at this table, and we're giving him the opportunity to own his own restaurant. So it's like another game show that's not undercover boss. That's how they sign the papers. Oh, so it's deception. Yes, boss. That's how they sign the papers. Oh, so it's deception. Yes, deception. That seems like they can get sued. Well, it's deception by its own company that they work for.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So I think it's kind of, there's like that loophole. What a fuck. Once you cash the check, there ain't no going back. This poor kid's going to make $10 an hour. You give him a check for $600 a day. Once you cash that check, there ain't no going back, Jack. You know, that's... There's a lot of those shows now, too.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It's amazing how easy it is to make one of those shows. There's still hidden camera shows. Did you know that? My friend still executive produced hidden cameras. Well, Howie Mandel has that show, right? He has a show where he does hidden camera things, where you make money, the more you get people to do. Like, you gotta tell your wife you're leaving her for a man, and, you know, like, and you get, like, 500 bucks for that,
Starting point is 00:33:32 and you get more for more things you do. It's like, I did that show for CBS years ago, like, six years ago. It was called Game Show in My Head. And I, we would put, like, this little earpiece in these people, and then they would go out, and we would make them do shit on camera. We had this guy, put him in the middle of Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:33:54 and told him, gave him a suit, and put some news cameras, like it was a news camera show, and had these people come over, and you had to tell people that you were there to talk to someone who was a witness for a UFO. And they took off, and you got to ask these other people, would you pretend it was you?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Would you pretend that you saw this UFO? And you got to get them to admit that they were taken aboard the aircraft and that they were probed, that they did some medical examinations on them. And they got people to do it. That's how I knew that all that, that was like a huge eye-opener for me about how full of shit people are when it comes to UFOs. Everybody's talking about it.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Yeah, it came down the field and it wasn't from Earth. I've seen a lot of airplanes on TV, didn't look nothing like that. And it was spinning around in a circle and there was no doors. And I saw these little, Those people are full of shit. There's a giant percentage of those people. You put a camera in front of their face,
Starting point is 00:34:49 and they just start talking. And we didn't have no problem. We got, like, seven people to just, right away, to just start making shit up, right off the top of their head. All of them did it. No one said no. It was ridiculous. And we all... Everyone that did that show with me,
Starting point is 00:35:04 we all left it, and we were like, what the fuck, man? Like, everybody just lied. Like, at least I expected a few people to be like, what, you want me to make up a story about being taken aboard a UFO? Get the fuck out of here. That's the reality show. Yeah. Just them playing Martians.
Starting point is 00:35:18 You get like a fake rocket ship and just go to places like at one in the morning, like land and, where are you, bitches? Yeah. See all these motherfuckers that wanted to see Martians, all these fucking years, run down that street like it's King fucking Kong. They would start shooting, yeah. Yeah, in today's world, they would start shooting. Too many people have guns.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, in today's world, people would shoot one of those fucking guns. How about in the fucking 90s? They would have shot people, UFOs. They would shoot UFOs. Any time someone's had a gun, they're willing to shoot like a UFO if it lands. Like the odds of, if you get 1,000 people with guns
Starting point is 00:35:52 and a UFO lands in front of them, 500 people are pulling that fucking trigger. Now let me ask you this. You're an intelligent guy. When you have a UFO landing and you have 10 people that concur, they saw the same thing or they saw something. What is that? Well, I go from door to fucking door and pay people.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I mean, what the fuck? It could be a bunch of things. The thing is, it could be from another planet. It could be. Look, if it's possible for us to put a rover on Mars, it's possible for them to send a ship from another galaxy. Of course it's possible. Not only that, we assume that these aliens that everybody
Starting point is 00:36:26 keeps seeing, these gray aliens with the big black eyes, we assume that they're living beings. They could easily be robots. If we're this close to crossing that uncanny valley and making some sort of an artificial computer-generated image, how, I mean, if the technology continues to accelerate to the point where you can actually get a ship to go through
Starting point is 00:36:44 a fucking wormhole, the real, like, impeding factor, I would think, would be biological life. Like, why send something living when you can make something artificial? They're so close to being able to make artificial life. And when I say so close, within 100 years? I mean, I don't think anybody disputes that.
Starting point is 00:37:01 They'll have some form of artificial life within 100 years. A robot with skin that looks like us? Now go in the future. The Earth is four-something billion years old, but we're not the oldest planet. We're not in the oldest galaxy. Like, not even close.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Like, the universe is 14 billion years old, supposedly. So that means an extra 10 billion years for things to form and possibly grow Even not 1 billion years Even a million years Who the fuck knows what we could do in a million years So if these UFOs show up And these little aliens are inside of it
Starting point is 00:37:33 They're probably robots I would assume that they Unless they figure out some incredible way To bypass space and time And to fold space and create a wormhole And punch through like they did in Event Horizon And all these physics you know, physics documentaries where they talk about the possibility of using wormholes.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And it's all, like, crazy theoretical shit. But until they figure out how to do that and send, like, monkeys back and forth for a few years, they're not gonna... I mean, why wouldn't they just send robots? Just like we're sending a robot to Mars. I mean, it looks like a toaster, and it's got wheels, and it's rolling around, but it's a robot. If we sent a robot that looked like Tracy Lourdes,
Starting point is 00:38:06 and it was walking around on Mars, I mean, that would be what it looked like. You know, it just so happens that we sent one that looks like a toaster. But it doesn't... A thousand years from now, we could send whatever the fuck we want. We could send Bob Costas to the moon. You know, Bob Costas, robot Bob Costas,
Starting point is 00:38:21 would be reporting from the surface of the fucking moon. You know, I've never been a big Martian guy. And I always... And I always thought that fucking... You know, you always think that the high population of areas are Area 51 and maybe in the south. Right. You know, you just write it off, but it isn't.
Starting point is 00:38:38 The high populations of Martian sightings and UFOs is why I grew up. It's northern New Jersey. I fucking couldn't believe it. Well, you know why? This is the conspiracy theory. Do you know the conspiracy theory? Why?
Starting point is 00:38:50 That's where Bell Laboratories are. In Jersey? Yes. The big conspiracy. This is the big conspiracy. This goes way back. There was a company on the internet, I don't know if you remember it,
Starting point is 00:39:00 called the American Computer Company, and they had this website. They made computers. It was back in the day where you'd call up or you would fill out, like, specs. Like, you know, hey, I want a 300 Celeron processor and this and that. And they would put together a computer for you. But they also had this website page that was dedicated to conspiracies about the creation of the... was it the transistor? The stereo.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Bell Laboratories invented the stereo. Yeah, there was certain aspects of sound and electronics that were invented in Bell Laboratories. And this website supposedly pulls... this is the big conspiracy... pulls the cover over the creation of these things and says all this shit came out of Area 51 from some shit that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.
Starting point is 00:39:54 It was all about the Roswell, New Mexico crash. They took all those, whatever those parts of those UFOs were and back-engineered them, and that's how they created all this stuff. And this website was totally dedicated to it. It was talking about how there's a military base that's outside of Bell Labs, like, that they said was to protect New York City. They're like, why would you protect New York City
Starting point is 00:40:12 from way the fuck out there? You wouldn't. It would take way too long for everything to coordinate. That, but it's right next to Bell Labs. And, you know, during the military days of, you know, I guess this is like, Bell Labs was probably created post-World War II, I think. So you gotta think, you know, there's the Cold days of, you know, I guess this is like Bell Labs probably created post-World War II, I think. So you got to think, you know, there's the Cold War days and the Russians
Starting point is 00:40:30 and there's all this, the technological races to try to get to the moon and all that other shit. I mean, we were racing with the Russians virtually everything, nuclear power, nuclear weapons, space travel. And so this Bell Labs apparently played a very vital role in, you know, United States strategic technology advancement, like, for whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:40:51 But this American computer company was convinced that all this shit came from UFOs, from the crash saucer in Roswell, and they back-engineered it. There's a lot of people that believe that. Northern New Jersey is like the capital, if you look at fucking sightings. It's not Roswell.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It's northern New Jersey. That's fucking Karlstadt all the way to fucking, like, Bergen County. Well, it could also be the air quality in New Jersey is so fucking bad that people are just delirious all the time. They live in those swamp towns. But there's one story that came in North Bergen, and this is the part of town where it's fucking uppity.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And they interviewed all these people. And I stayed up one night and looked at it. There's a tape on YouTube. There's a video on YouTube. Right. They have... They show where the thing landed on the baseball diamond and all this shit. But then they went to all those business owners,
Starting point is 00:41:42 and whenever you see... Last night, I was watching something. They showed a view of New York. It's a circular building. That's the building that complained the most. They saw the lights, people landing... Right....taking samples of dirt out. I mean, it was...
Starting point is 00:41:54 Could have been anybody fucking with them. But not all these people in conjunction. Not, all right, the liquor store owner. Maybe had a couple cocktails. But all these people in the building saw the lights, the flashing, they saw the lights, the flashing, they heard the landing, they heard the booms. It's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Maybe all those broads were just seeing stars. That's stupid. He mocks his own line. Meanwhile, you thought about that before you said it. You're like, this is the shit. Well, you kept on saying that they saw lights, and you're talking about jerseys, so whatever. You know what I think? Don't even explain it.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It doesn't work. You know what I think, too? The CIA came out with this report recently about how many of the UFO sightings that people saw was actually experimental aircraft that they were working on. And that was real recent. Like, they admitted this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:45 But then you also have, they admitted this kind of stuff. But then you also have, like, remote-controlled drones. I mean, they've had that kind of technology, like radio-controlled technology. They've had that for a long time, and they've been able to do things not, like, quite to the level that they can do them now, but they've been able to do things. Like, they used to have drone airliners.
Starting point is 00:43:03 They could send an airliner with no people on it. Just launch. They were going to use that. That was part of Operation Northwoods. They were going to blow it up. They can't land them. They couldn't land them in like 1962, but they could launch them. So what they were going to do is they were going to have this plane take off and they were going to say all these people were in it.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And they were going to blow it up in the sky and they were going to blame it on Cuba. And that was going to be what led us to go to war with cuba because that was when like the russians were trying to put military bases there and they were going to have missiles pointed at the u.s from right over there that was the bay of pigs and all that like it got real hot and heavy there was this like like real showdown between the united states and russia over cuba and over them having missiles in cuba and one of the things that we're going to do, they're going to arm Cuban friendlies. They're going to give like people that they were, they had good relationships with, they're going to give them arms and have them attack Guantanamo Bay because we have a military
Starting point is 00:43:54 base in Cuba. And this blowing up this airliner was a big part of their thing. Like everyone's going to make up a bunch of fake people and they're all missing and have actors play their parents crying on TV, all that kind of shit. But they had the capability in 1962 to shoot a plane up. They couldn't land it, like I said, but they could definitely fly that fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:44:16 It's pretty crazy. So you got to think, how many, like, remote-controlled, like, saucers did they have? How many remote-controlled, I mean, some of the drones that they have now, they look completely alien. Well, this of the drones that they have now, they look completely alien. Well, this is early 70s. This is when the Martians landed in Hudson County Park.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Or mid-70s when they landed, so... But since then, it's... There's a ton of fucking spots, and people spotting those things in northern New Jersey. Yeah, CIA admits most UFC... Most UFO... UFC. Most UFO sightings in the 1950s and the 60s were our planes. Yeah, they have all these crazy jets apparently they're working on.
Starting point is 00:44:53 It was confirming in a report that the U-2 spy planes and test flights over the U.S. coincided with a lot of the UFO sightings. Yeah, I mean, think about that fucking, have you ever seen one of those stealth bombers in real life? You ever seen one flying overhead? No. Dude, it looks like you're in a science fiction movie.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It's like some War of the Worlds, Star Trek type shit. We were in Palmdale, and we were doing Fear Factor, and we saw several of them. Because Fear Factor started post 9-11, so it was like right after 9-11. It was actually one of the things that people were saying. One of the dumb ass fucking reporter questions that I got when I was doing press for Fear Factor, this lady goes,
Starting point is 00:45:34 don't you think that it's in poor taste to have a show that concentrates on fear right after 9-11? Wow. Like you fucking idiot. They're gonna jump off a bridge with a bungee cord and eat an eyeball. Like, yeah. It's like the terrorists won.
Starting point is 00:45:48 You're right. The terrorists won. But, um, my point being that, like, when those things flew by, we were out there in Palmdale, and those things flew by because it was, like, a lot of military activity. It was right when the war was about to start. They looked like they were from another planet, man. I know they weren't.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I know where they were going. They were going to Edwards Air Force Base. It's right out there. Didn't matter. When you see them, you're like, oh, my God, those are aliens. Like, it feels like they're alien. Like, you see that black fucking thing? Sound, I bet.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Dude, they're fast as shit. And they look, they don't look like any plane you've ever seen before. They look like spaceships. It looks like a scene in Star Wars where you have some sort of a star port. And then, you know, in the background, all these planes are landing and taking off into space. I mean, that's what we all thought we would be seeing
Starting point is 00:46:35 by now anyway, right? We would all, when you, if you were a kid, and you said, hey, Joey, what do you think it's gonna be like in 2015? You'd be like, oh, fucking space travel for sure, right? Everybody thought we'd have bases on the moon by now. Everybody thought we'd be flying around in jets. Everybody would be going all over the place and...
Starting point is 00:46:52 Hover cars, Back to the Future. This was the year that 2015 was Back to the Future 2, when he comes in and there's all the cars flying around. We had hoverboards and... Yeah. No flying cars. The flying cars they do have will fucking kill you. Actually, there's one that's supposed to be pretty good. There's a couple different guys who've made flying cars, but one of them has, like, these folding wings,
Starting point is 00:47:11 and you drive around like this, and then when you take off, the thing goes... clink, clink, and shoom! The wings come down, and you fly. Like, so you're driving around with the wings up, and you can drive around town like a normal, you know, as good as like a Prius or something. And then when you want to, you lower the wings down.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Say, fuck, 405 got traffic. Pick this motherfucker up right here. I would need a large parachute on that fucking thing. Fuck that. There's gonna be drunk drivers in the sky now. That's... Everyone's houses will have like a car in it at one point. I think once they figure out like Google Drive,
Starting point is 00:47:44 you know, like Google driving cars, and they figure out how to keep cars in their lanes and have them avoid each other like no matter what they can't collide once that technology becomes like standard then i think you could might be able to have some sort of flying vehicle but until they do you're gonna have people like you ever watch people in like little private planes just fly around? They fly, just fucking fly around. I went with Phil Hartman. He took me up to look at real estate and we got in one of his, he had a little single engine plane and we took this plane up into the sky and we just flew. He went wherever he wanted to. Like, I'll show you where Malibu is. He doesn't have to call somebody and say, hey, I'm going to fly over by Malibu. Is that cool?
Starting point is 00:48:27 No, he just does it. And they hit each other sometimes. All the time. One just crashed on Van Nuys the other day. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, one was laying there, right? The Balboa Lake.
Starting point is 00:48:36 The only reason why more don't is because there are not more people flying. Yeah. You know? Did you watch people fucking spin out like retards in this rain? Oh, yeah. Ugh. You saw them? you watch people fucking spin out like retards in this rain? Oh, yeah. Oh. You saw? So many people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I saw so many people crash in the rain. They just forgot how to drive in the rain. Yeah, I got some good videos. I have that dashboard camera now, so everywhere I go, it records HD video, and every night during the rainstorm, just pull out, save it to computer. There's just tons of clips of people running red lights and almost hitting other cars. They don't know how to stop. Yeah. They don't know how to slow down. There's just tons of clips of people, like, running red lights and almost hitting other cars. They don't know how to stop. They don't know how to slow down.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It's amazing. California, we get rain maybe ten times a year on a crazy year. People don't believe that, but that is real, right? I mean, last year, did we get rain three times last year? Was it even three times? No. Probably wasn't, right?
Starting point is 00:49:21 They say we need 11 trillion gallons of water to even out what we've lost in this three-year drought. We're still in a bad't, right? They say we need 11 trillion gallons of water to even out what we've lost in this three-year drought. We're still in a bad drought, right? Like, none of that rain did anything, right? No. I mean, it's better than no rain. But we need 11 trillion gallons. Up north, they're taking the water out of the ground,
Starting point is 00:49:40 recycling it, and using it again on all the vegetation that's up north. You know, Bakersfield, all those little towns that have, that live off cherries and whatever the fuck they live off, strawberries and shit. Yeah, like the agricultural towns, right? I just watched it on 60 Minutes a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:49:56 It was on. New company. They're busy till fucking 2020. Are they making wells? Is that what they're doing? No. They come up and pull the water from all the deepest parts of the earth and they recycle it and use it again it's not a well no they go deep
Starting point is 00:50:14 look it up it was just on 16 minutes maybe three weeks ago really interesting i i'm amazed that no one's figured out a way to take salt out of water i mean they do they they have they have right but it's not it's commercially effective take salt out of water. They do. They have. They have. They have. But it's not commercially effective. It's really expensive. Sewer water. They have the new one with sewer water, and they have the people drinking it.
Starting point is 00:50:31 What? Right from the fucking sewer. And people drinking water that look like this, dawg. Right from the sewer, already with shit. Yeah, Bill Gates had... Syringes, condoms, pills, fucking old sneakers, and you're there drinking it like a fucking mojito. And you pay for it.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And you pay for it, but it's a new machine, and it's tremendous. Do you think in the future we're gonna have our own water? Like, the water's gonna be so, you know, bad that we have our own, like, I don't know, 20-gallons supply of water that we can use to cook, wash ourselves, then we pee it out, clean it. But it's our personal water.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Like, we, you have to, like, keep your own water. That's totally possible. Yeah, right? It actually might not be the worst idea. I would be happier drinking my piss water. Right. Because then you can hack it. Than someone else's piss water.
Starting point is 00:51:20 You can hack it. Yeah. And would you use your girlfriend's water? Like, you and your loved one would switch waters? Because it's a little bit... Well, here's the deal. All of your water came out of someone's dick. How about that?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Dinosaur balls. Think about it. Some animal most likely pissed away some water and it evaporated, came down as rain. And you know, who... It can kill water. Yeah, water... I think the amount of water we have is finite. And even though we're like, oh, we're running out of water. I think the amount of water we have is finite like and even though we're like oh we're
Starting point is 00:51:45 running out of water i think the water is going somewhere i mean it's still in earth it's like you might not be able to get to it it might be pouring in seattle or it might be but it's all just water like somehow or another it gets reused it evaporates it comes down again it's all kind of contained in this crazy ball and they say that a lot of the water that we drink, you know, it's very likely some of it passed through an animal's body and was pissed out and was filtered down through the, like, a stream. Like, have you ever, like, seen a creek
Starting point is 00:52:17 where you have, like, crystal clear spring water that's coming down from a glacier? Like, that is a woolly mammoth dick pissed out some of this water, and that water, like, seeped into the earth or gets sucked up in moisture. It's very possible that a lot of this stuff actually came from animals' dicks.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Mm-hmm. So if we get to a point where we're so good at recycling water that you know when you're getting water, even though it was poopy water or piss water or whatever, there's nothing in there but water. It's absolutely clear, pure water. And spirits.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And spirits? Yeah. It collects the spirits of the past. You can't get the spirits out. Like, imagine if they drained the Hudson River and used that water. How many bodies are in that fucking water? Oh, my god.
Starting point is 00:52:59 People went over the bridge and threw a bag of blow over. Oh, yeah. Or a hooker's finger or a hooker or condoms in that river they're gonna eventually you're gonna clean it out with that machine they got a bunch of those machines purifies it the whole thing don't they already do that with a lot of water they take sewage treatment and they they treat the water and then they put it right back into the supply that's what they do right now. That's, you know, our waters, or that drainage, the LA River or whatever, that all gets cleaned and put back into the faucets.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Do you guys even drink faucet water anymore, though? I was thinking about this the other day. I won't touch my water. Right, but don't you cook with it? That's an issue. Like, we all cook with faucet water. Yeah, I guess, but I don't use my kitchen. I just eat out.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Right. But, yeah, I guess I do cook with it. What if you, like, make tea or coffee? No, I, uh... You borrow water? Yeah, I have a Arrowhead. Yeah, I don't know. People like to be bohemian, use that city water.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I was watching some news show the other day. I forget what town I'm in, but it was showing... I think it was San Francisco. They were showing all these different blocks where you couldn't drink the water right now. Like, there was this whole area where they're saying, don't drink the water if you live on these streets. Like, what? What are you saying? Like, I have to just be on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:54:10 or I have to be paying attention to the news to know this? What if I'm a guy that just likes to read newspapers and sit at home for a few days, and I'm drinking the water? Are you knocking on my door? Are you telling people? Are you assuming they have Facebook? You're just gonna make them drink this fucking shit water? They should have stormtroopers knock on everybody's door. Don't drink the water! But they don't. You're telling people, you're assuming they have Facebook? You're just gonna make them drink this fucking shit water? They should have stormtroopers knock on everybody's door,
Starting point is 00:54:27 -"Don't drink the water!" But they don't. I have hard water. What's that? Because if I wash my car with it, my car will be white when it dries. Minerals. Yes. Is that really bad for you or really good? Seems like it would be good for you. I think some trace minerals are good for you, but I don't know if that quantity of minerals is good for you.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Like hard water. It Like, hard water. It's really hard water. But they say that that's one of the things that is bad for people when you have distilled water. Because you drink distilled water, it doesn't have any minerals in it. Like, you can actually kind of fuck your body up if you only drink distilled water.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Like, distilled water is something that wrestlers take a lot of times before they cut weight. Because when you drink it, it flushes all your system out, it flushes all the minerals in your body. But a lot of people are saying, like, I don't think Dolce fucks with that stuff. I think a lot of guys are saying, like, that is not good for you.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Like, you need those. Like, those elements of the water, the minerals, it might make it easier to dehydrate yourself that way because you're flushed, but it's not good. Like, I think all that shit in water is actually probably good for you. I'm laughing because my old coke dealer used to drink distilled water.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Really? Probably got with his... He's all fucked up now. Potential health impacts of hard water. Here it goes. This is a, uh, a PubMed study. So it says, in the past five decades or so, evidence has been accumulating about an environmental factor
Starting point is 00:55:41 which appears to be influencing mortality, in particular, cardiovascular mortality, and this is the hardness of the drinking water. Oh, shit. In addition, several epidemiological investigations have demonstrated the relation between risk for cardiovascular disease, growth retardation, reproductive failure, and other health problems, and the hardness of drinking water or its content of magnesium and calcium, which is weird because magnesium and calcium
Starting point is 00:56:10 are things that people take as supplements. Right. There's not even a fucking balance to being a person. You know, like if you have, if you drink a pound of salt, you're dead. You know, that's fucked. In addition, the acidity of the water influences the reabsorption of calcium and magnesium in the renal tube.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Tubule. I don't know what that is, but it's not good. Not only calcium and magnesium, but other constituents also affect different health aspects. Thus, the present review attempts to explore the health effects of hard water in its constituents. Wow, that's crazy, man. Alzheimer's disease is linked to Alzheimer's disease, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and cancer. Jesus. It's all of them.
Starting point is 00:56:53 This is terrible. Hard water is fucking terrible for you. Yeah, fuck yeah. It's weird, man. Shit. Well, the only thing I use it for is really just taking a shower. So hopefully that doesn't...
Starting point is 00:57:05 But is that bad for you? Because I know that, like, you absorb magnesium through your skin. It's one of the benefits, actually, of, like, flotation tanks. They absorb magnesium through your skin. Hmm. Yeah. But maybe they need to do studies on that. Maybe it's not good to absorb too much magnesium through your skin.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I don't even fucking... I know you're... Taking magnesium, though, is like... Especially for men, it's very beneficial. There's correlations between magnesium and testosterone and zinc. Zinc and testosterone as well. This is weird. Oh, so it's a ratio of magnesium and calcium in the water.
Starting point is 00:57:42 It's a crucial factor indicating the hardness. So I guess it's just like when shit gets really wacky. There's concentrations of dissolved calcium and magnesium in soft and hard water. You're dealing with, like, hard numbers, I guess. Hard. Yeah. It's weird because, like, minerals
Starting point is 00:57:58 are really good for you. It's important. Like, if you don't have minerals, that's where osteoporosis comes from, you know, lack of calcium, your body starts drawing calcium out of your bones. Like, one of the best ways to prevent it, you take calcium. But they also say that a lot of our farmlands,
Starting point is 00:58:12 like the vegetables that we're getting and the plants that we eat, a lot of them are nutrient deficient because a lot of the farmlands, like, they've been, like... They've been growing shit on them for so long, they kind of, like, sucked all the good stuff out of the ground. It's dead dirt. Like the cigars in like, they've been, like, they've been growing shit on them for so long. They kind of, like, sucked all the good stuff out of the ground. It's dead dirt.
Starting point is 00:58:27 The cigars in Cuba, they say, they're not that good no more. Really? That's what some of the old-time Cubans say. The fucking ground has been, you know, how many fucking leaflets can you get out of there since 1940? They have to do a really good job of protecting the dirt.
Starting point is 00:58:42 You got to use mulch. You know, you got to use compost. You got to, like, replenish manure. Yeah, and also compost is big, too. Replenishing the nutrients. Like, that's the thing about dirt. It's, like, you look at soil, you think of it as dirt, but it's, like, it's alive.
Starting point is 00:59:00 There's all sorts of shit in there. There's not just, like, minerals. There's organisms and worms and bugs. Like, you need worms. Like, worms are great. People add worms to their garden. You, like, want them all living in there. You know, you want all that salt. You want worm shit. You want worms to shit. You want them to eat the dirt and shit.
Starting point is 00:59:15 It makes it all nice, easy to grow in. Those mushrooms I ate in Vegas with Ari and those guys, those fucking things were good, Jack. Joey was up till 5 o'clock in the morning. You see Joey. I didn't sleep morning. You didn't sleep I went right to the airport got the phone. Wow that's seven something didn't sleep till 8 to that afternoon good visuals Those days are over. What you gotta go deep deep deep to see visual Body music I just giggled I just giggled So it's body?
Starting point is 00:59:44 I just giggled. I just giggled my ass off. It was tremendous. What is Vegas like on Mushrooms? Like, what is the experience of the craziness of Vegas? I didn't really... We went and did the show. We walked off stage and I had a fucking handful. I ate them and that was my Vegas. Yeah, but then we went out, we had some dinner.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah, but we didn't really walk and talk to fucking crazy people. Right. You know, I mean, Duncan had that fucking meth guy after the show that was telling him about, you know, the coming of fucking Satan and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Duncan was giving him his email address. Yes. Hey, contact me, man. That's the, you know, the mushrooms, when you go out in public, any of those drugs,
Starting point is 01:00:20 it becomes something else. It really enhances, you know, there's a couple different mushrooms you could take. I mean, there's a couple different mushrooms you could take. I mean, for trips, you know, you could take the mushroom at home and become very, uh, whatever that word is, into yourself and writing. Or you could take mushrooms and leave
Starting point is 01:00:36 and go for a fucking complete different odyssey. That's an odyssey when you're out with, like, four friends and you're each fucked up, and you have to be tight with those four friends. So I don't have to look at you. We don't have to communicate. All I have to do is look at you, and I can send you the fucking mushroom telepathically. We know. We'll lose each other in a bar,
Starting point is 01:00:55 and every couple of hours, we'll just look at each other. And that's... We'll know. You know what's going on by that look, like... And your own body will tell you. Like, you'll be drinking, giggling, all of a sudden, something, where's Joe? And you'll look at that same time. And we'll look at each other and go, and you go back.
Starting point is 01:01:12 That's the fun of it. It's that certain connection with your friends. With me, I didn't grow up on mushrooms. I was more of a micro-dot acid guy growing up, all those type of hallucinogenics, which are basically fucking poison. But I had the same experience with my friends. We'd go into large venues, concerts.
Starting point is 01:01:30 We all didn't sit together, but we'd always find each other. Duncan told me he took that, um, kind of acid that has formaldehyde in the pa- blotter acid on paper. You know, he said he took- he had- he's been taking Pure stuff for a while, and he took this stuff and he was like it's so disgusting he was like it hurt my bones yeah yeah that's been around
Starting point is 01:01:52 you know why why does it have strychnine well that's all part of the process like when you smoke crack there's turpentine in that you know but acid's supposed to be just lsd paper supposedly we were told it was to stick it to the paper. It really is strychnine? Is that a Snopes thing? It might've been a Snopes thing. I do know that when I used to have it in my vials and like sell it and I would just like,
Starting point is 01:02:15 you got a sugar cube and I'll just drop a little drop on the sugar cube, that never had the back or the bone problems, you know, with the liquid acid. And the micro dots didn't either because those were like those little black ones that pretty much just had a bubble of acid in them. Right, with the liquid acid. And the micro dots didn't either because those were like those little black ones that pretty much just had a bubble of acid in them. Right, a bubble of acid. The liquid always worked for me.
Starting point is 01:02:31 The liquid and the sugar cube are in the eye, right in the eyeball. I never did the eye. That would fuck me up. I was very fortunate. I got to meet these guys when I was growing up that were hallucinogenic experts. You know, that's what they did.
Starting point is 01:02:45 They made that shit on the weekends all week long. And they pumped it out to college kids, but they pumped out, you know, grosses. They would sell you 144 hits, you know. And that's all they did. And they made 10,000 fucking hits of everything a week. And every time you went up there on Saturday, they had something different. Yeah, it's okay. Anti-drug educators frequently tell their students
Starting point is 01:03:08 that some variant of the theme of inevitable strychnine poisoning through LSD use. For example, that strychnine is commonly sold as a cheaper substitute for LSD by unscrupulous drug dealers, that strychnine is a byproduct of LSD synthesis, that the body produces strychnine as a result of LSD metabolism, or that strychnine is used as a preservative to prevent the otherwise natural rapid decomposition of the LSD, allowing
Starting point is 01:03:31 it to be stored, or that strychnine is somehow necessary to bond LSD to blotter paper. None of this is true. Yeah. These claims have even been believed to be propagated by drug users themselves. In reality, most hallucinogens cause some degree of mental or physical discomfort after the trip is over. This is an indirect effect of the drug, not strychnine or any other adulterant.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Oh, there we go. They used to always also say that the old, uh, which always seemed fake, like, there was so much strychnine on that that it collects in your back, and if you ever get in a car accident and hit that part in your back, you're gonna trip forever. Yeah. I've heard that.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I've heard that. It's so stupid. Yeah, man, LSD stores in your fingernails. And you note how your fingernails constantly grow. That means you'll constantly be tripping. It's amazing. I love my voice. Fucking hate that guy. I've met him. I met that guy last night. It was one of them.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I did a documentary. Same guy. I'm doing a documentary. I'd love to have you involved to raise consciousness and expand consciousness, sort of in an overall sense of consciousness. It's basically like the vibe I'm on right now is I don't even care about money. I'm just all about spreading peace and consciousness.
Starting point is 01:04:47 It's so funny, those guys that you meet, that follow you, that are fans of you. But the other day there was a few of them and we would play this game where like one would come up to us and start talking. You don't want to give up the ghost. No, but like Christina Piszczewski was there and he starts talking to me and Christina.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Christina said something to him, and the next thing she knows, she looks over, and I'm gone. You know, because I'm just kind of like hot potato. You pass off the crazy person, too. It's one thing I'm not enjoying about being at the comedy store is how many people are pitching me ideas. You can't just hang out there. Four guys pitched me ideas last night, came up to me.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Hey, man, I came here to talk to you about this project I'm doing. One guy was the history of the fart joke. I'm not joking. He's doing a documentary on the history of the fart joke. And I'm, yeah, and this is true. I have no time for anything. I have no time for other stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I have exactly the amount of time for the stuff that I'm doing right now. And, you know, anybody that comes up to me, hey, can you do this, can you do my podcast, I literally don't have the time. It's not available. So I can't do it. And so the guy goes, well, can I go through proper channels?
Starting point is 01:05:52 What? What does that mean? I just said no. I don't want to do a history of the fart joke documentary. There's no proper channel. Like, good luck. Maybe it'll be great. Look, who knew that a documentary on corn
Starting point is 01:06:04 would be great? You could have an awesome documentary on the history of the fart joke. I just don't have the time. Was he like, whatever, dude, and he just blows a fart on you and walks away? Well, here's a joke. You pull my finger. It was a good guy. It wasn't a bad guy. He was, like, really cool about it. In comparison to how many other different people have come by with ridiculous ideas
Starting point is 01:06:27 where they weren't cool about it, where it's just like, you know, I had to tell a guy last night, like, dude, you got to stop pitching me. I'm not pitching you. I go, yes, you are. I go, I'm trying to have this conversation with Ari. You've sandwiched yourself in between us, and you're telling me about this movie you're doing
Starting point is 01:06:38 or this thing you're doing. Like, I can't do it. Like, stop. And, like, you can't hang out there. I don't get those. You know what I get now? The business propositions. Oh. Well, you can't hang out there. I don't get those. You know what I get now? The business propositions. Oh. Well, you need to move to Denver with Rogan
Starting point is 01:06:50 and open up a wheat store, and when people come, you pick them up at the airport and do a tour of the city and donate half your money to the charity. What? And I told the guy, listen, I live in L.A. You do know that. You know, I live in L.A.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I can't help you. I don't know in L.A. I can't help you. I don't even care. I can't help you. Well, that means you really don't want to spread. Listen, I really don't give a fuck. Who does or what the fuck. I really don't give a fuck. I really don't.
Starting point is 01:07:15 You want to smoke dope? Smoke dope. You don't want to smoke dope. I'm not taking you around to show you a cause. Get the fuck out of here. I don't believe in none of that shit anyway. I never bought high times in my life. I just smoke dope.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I don't look at buds. I don't have pictures of buds. You don't see me with no T-shirt with weed on my shirt. I just smoke motherfucking dope. Okay? I don't know nothing else. I don't know nothing. I don't know about consciousness.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I don't know about fucking, you know, the Lord. I don't know nothing. Roll it up or shut your fucking mouth. That's it. It's that fucking easy. I don't want about fucking, you know, the Lord. I don't know nothing. Roll it up or shut your fucking mouth. That's it. It's that fucking easy. I don't want to hear about nothing. Nobody gets that shit. You go to a town now, you get 19 people wanting to do a podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I don't have the fucking time. And they want you to jump in their car. I don't even fucking know you. I don't even fucking know you. Well, I'll take you. It's 20 minutes away. 20 minutes in your fucking world. That's 40 minutes in my fucking world.
Starting point is 01:08:05 When I go to a town, I don't want to do dick. Once I get on that plane to go to anywhere the fuck I go, I don't want to do dick. Yeah. I want to do the radio that they have for me, and that's it. I've already done my podcast for the week. I've done everything. I go in and fucking get a computer.
Starting point is 01:08:19 I got that little, what's that new thing? The substance? I don't even know what the fuck it is. Surface. Surface. Tremendous. You got that? You got one of those? Yeah. new thing? The substance? I don't even know what the fuck it is. Surface. Surface. Tremendous. You got that? Yeah. You got one of those? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Little windows? Yeah. Perfect for me. Nobody bothers me. I go to my room, I watch all this shit that I can't watch at home because there's a baby around and a wife asking you questions about the hemisphere when you're in the middle of writing fucking something, you know? And you can't say no to the kid because they don't get, what the fuck, they don't get a
Starting point is 01:08:44 joke, they don't get nothing. Right. They don't get a joke. They don't get nothing. Right. You got to stop what the fuck you're doing. She runs into the computer room and jumps on my lap. That's the end of the computer. It's YouTube and I got to watch fucking something about the window or what's raining or something about animals. And I love it.
Starting point is 01:08:59 But that's just how it goes. When I go to a town, it's to fucking sit down and write a few jokes and fucking focus on the act for tonight and tomorrow night. And I don't want to fucking drive 40 minutes at you telling me that they want to stop and introduce you to their uncle, who's a fan of the Longest Yard.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I don't give a fuck. All right? Let's go. Andale. I don't want to do nothing. Andale. Andale. Well, I guess you just don't care about spreading the message. The message is suck my dick. That's the fucking message. Yeah, what about the cause, man? Is it all just about sucking your dick?
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yes. Is that really what you're about? Yes, at the end of the fucking week, yes it is. Yeah, it's about you smoking dope. I don't even want a blow job. What? I don't even want a blow job. I just want to smoke dope and be fucking left alone.
Starting point is 01:09:35 I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. They do, they have been coming out to the Comedy Stone full force. Full force. Swarms of them. Every show I've done in the past three weeks, I've been hit up for something. They don't bother me.
Starting point is 01:09:47 They just, you know, I love talking to those people. I don't mind talking to people. That's not the problem. It's the people that are pitching shit. Just regular folks who want to come by and say, what's up? That's cool. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I mean, you have great conversations with some of those people. It's the people that, like, interrupt other conversations, just sandwich themselves in, and, gay, I've got to talk to you about this movie. We're about to jump off. Seth. It's the people that, like, interrupt other conversations, just sandwich themselves in, and, okay, I've got to talk to you about this movie, we're about to jump off, Seth Rogen's involved, it's very big, it's gonna be huge, I've got a lot of Bobcat, Goldthwait,
Starting point is 01:10:12 we're in negotiation, like, shut the fuck up, please. I had a guy show up with a camera to the Comedy Store. A camera? Like a film camera? Kissed me, took a picture, cool, and then goes, do you mind saying something about my TV show or my web series? And I'm like, I never watched it.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I don't even know what you're talking about. It doesn't matter. Just, and all of a sudden, he's like, whee. And they fucking jumped the thing. They were in that car on the side going down a hill at the store. Like, they went up the hotel ramp and turned around. They were waiting for me outside.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And they just jumped out with a camera. And the kid was like, hold on one second. Jesus. And the hotel ramp and turned around. They were waiting for me outside. And they just jumped out with a camera. And the kid was like, hold on one second. Jesus. And the kid fucking jumped and came. And the kid had a camera. You didn't even say yes. I didn't even say yes.
Starting point is 01:10:52 He just go. And I was like, god, I don't know. How can you want me to say something about your web series? I don't know what the fuck it is. No. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:11:01 All the weed people also, that's another one. People are just like, I got this joint company, you know, you take some joints and it's like shitty weed with oil on it. Well, by the way, so that's another problem. Yeah. Yeah. People are trying to give you your shit to smoke. I have no idea what kind of monkey business you're doing in that joint.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Did you just give me this have cocaine in it? Like, like now I'm going to get pulled over and I have some heroin laced. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. Well, the other day, some guy gave me heroin laced joint. Yeah, who knows? Well, the other day, some guy gave me one of those tubes. Yeah. And I buy those tubes sometimes
Starting point is 01:11:29 when I'm in a rush by my house. They have the tubes with the joint in it and they have a little bit of ash. And they're not bad. They're like 12 bucks, you smoke them, they're not fucking bad. So I thought it was the same thing. Well, I fucking took it and I go,
Starting point is 01:11:40 Lee, you wanna get high on the way back from the store? We got fucking blasted. We had to stop at 7-Eleven and get water and shit. We had to stop. It was fucking amazing. And I drive Lee to the car, and I go home, and I'm like, I'm saving this fucking tube. And the next day, I go to the wheat store,
Starting point is 01:11:59 and I give it to the guy. And I go, I want fucking 10 of those. And he looked at it. He goes, I don't have these. I gave it to the girl. That's my friend. She went in the back. And they go, we 10 of those and he looked and he goes i don't have these i gave it to the girl that's my friend she went in the back and they go we can't sell these these have waxing yeah that's what it is no wonder i was so that i thought it was dough and he goes no you have to look cvw yeah the kid went to give you two of them the other night yeah yeah i was standing
Starting point is 01:12:22 next to you i told him i couldn't take him like Like, I don't know you, dude. Sorry. You know? Come on, man. Like, listen, I don't know you. You could be a cop. And the girl gave you the muffin. Yeah, that was really ridiculous. She gave me a cake, a bunt cake for my daughter.
Starting point is 01:12:37 And I'm like, look, I'm not giving my daughter a cake from someone I don't even know. So I don't want to be rude to you, but thank you very much, but I don't want the cake. I don't eat that stuff, and I'm not going to give it to my kids. She's like, why not? And I was like, I don't even know. So I don't want to be rude to you, but thank you very much, but I don't want the cake. I don't eat that stuff, and I'm not going to give it to my kids. She's like, why not? And I was like, I don't know you. I'm not going to just accept a cake from you
Starting point is 01:12:53 to give to my kid. You know, I mean, this is, that's weird. That's weird. It's weird already. You know, if you gave me a cake to give to my kid, well, I know you. We're friends. I probably, I don't want them eating that much sugar. I mean, I give them dessert every now and again.
Starting point is 01:13:08 But that's not even the point. The point is like, why would I do that? Why would I give some food to my kid from some strange lady that the first thing she says is, I have a cake for your daughter? Like, not hello, not how's your night going, not what are you guys up to, hey, that was a really funny show, Joey.
Starting point is 01:13:28 You know, what are you, where are you at next? Are you going on the road? No, it's like right away, I've got a cake for your daughter. Like, get the fuck out of here. What kind of crazy shit is that? I don't think people understand how creepy that actually sounds, because they're from, probably from a small town where it's like,
Starting point is 01:13:42 you know, they're bringing apple pie over to strangers, like, I'm your neighbor, you know, and shit like that. In the middle of talking to someone last night, this guy comes over, interrupts, and the first words are in his mouth, hey, man, can you do me a favor? And he's got his camera out, and he wants me to make a video for him.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I'm like, no, no, no, I can't do you a favor. Like, you don't even care that we're talking. Like, it doesn't even bother you. You're not, excuse me, can I ask you a question real quick? Are you guys free right now? Can I, can I ask you something? Like, right away, can you do me a favor? I'm gonna make a video, I want you to be in it.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Like, get out of here. No. Like, that place needs a green room. It does have one. Yeah, but nobody uses it. Yeah, yeah. They're, yeah. You use it in the main room. But in the main room the other night, a guy came in.
Starting point is 01:14:23 A guy weaseled in, He was already in the back. And me and Russell were talking about it the other night. It's ridiculous. I like talking to people. But there's a line that I wouldn't even cross with somebody. I'd love to go up to somebody. Me and Redman, we're eating breakfast in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:14:37 We saw Tommy Heinsohn from the South. Excuse me, you Mr. Heinsohn? Yeah, it's an honor to meet you. I didn't bother him. I don't even want a fucking picture. Stop with your fucking pictures. Stop with the fucking pictures. What the picture got to fucking do for you? I said, I'm gonna give a fuck. I really don't. I've never given a fuck. I've seen people a lot, and it's like, all right, whatever. Yeah, I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna give a fuck. I'm gonna a fucking hug. I don't give a fuck. I really don't. I've never given a fuck. I've seen people a lot, and it's like, all right, whatever. Yeah, I'm going to go bother this fucking person.
Starting point is 01:15:12 You know, I just, I don't mind talking to people. I love talking to people. That's why I became a comic. I love it. But there's a line that I, you know, when I go out at night, I go out to do stand-up. Nothing else. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:15:23 What do you think I did on the way to the show? Do you think I smoked 15 joints? On the way down to Laurel Canyon, I already got high. You know, and I already ate a fucking pot cookie. I'm where I need to be. You know, if I want to smoke, and there's times I smoke with people, but there's other times, and I'm already baked, and I got to get back on Laurel Canyon.
Starting point is 01:15:40 What if I get pulled over and I got your shitty weed on my fucking breath? Yeah. And I got to do 90 days because you want to hit me with that fucking pink, purple, fucking fake weed you got and shit. Forget it. You know, it's just, I enjoy it. I just, I don't want to get pitched. I know where you're coming from. I don't want to.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I like talking to people. It's the weird people before you go on stage, too. That's the only time. Well, sometimes people at the comedy store, like, literally, they'll be introducing you. And people say, hey, man, can I get a picture? Like, you don't hear comedy store, like, literally, they'll be introducing you, and they'll, people say, hey, man, can I get a picture? Like, do you, you don't hear that guy, like, bringing me up on stage right now?
Starting point is 01:16:09 Like, you don't, they don't care. They just want to get that thing on their Facebook. And that's a real fucking problem with the access to cameras. People want to use them, even if it doesn't make any sense. Like, people weren't bringing cameras out in, like, 2000 when we would go on the road. People weren't bringing that many cameras with them.
Starting point is 01:16:24 We didn't take that many pictures of people. Most of the time when you talked to people off the show, you said hi to them, took a few pictures with folks. But not everybody had a camera. Now every fucking person you meet every day has a camera. That's a mind-blowing change between two decades ago. Yeah, can you imagine, like, 20 years ago, everyone just having camcorders, walking around the street?
Starting point is 01:16:45 Ridiculous. And the worst part is that you don't know when people are recording. So, like, that people are sitting there texting, but they're just recording you and stuff. Oh, yeah. I was out with my girlfriend the other day, and it was one of those guys just sitting there staring,
Starting point is 01:16:59 like, oh, I know this guy, I know this guy. And he's just sitting there with his camera just up, like, he's looking. And I know he was just sitting there recording or doing something. Yeah, people are fucking weird, man. It's a weird time. Like, people have lost, like, their etiquette.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Like, because this is such a new world, like, there's no etiquette as far as, like, cameras and sticking them in people's faces or asking for photos. Like, how many times you get asked while you're eating? Mouthful of food. Hey, man, can I get a picture? Like, how many times you get asked while you're eating? Mouthful of food. Hey, man, can I get a picture? Like, who the fuck would ever come up to you
Starting point is 01:17:28 in the middle of eating? You gotta, in the middle of, hey, man, can I talk to you about something? Like, no, this is not the time to talk to people. These are people who are eating food. They're having a meal. Not only that, they're sitting at a table, looking at each other, having a conversation.
Starting point is 01:17:42 It's one of the most enjoyable things we do as friends. Sit around and have a meal together. You know, it's like, that's like that expression, breaking bread, you break bread with people. And you, what are you saying, I can't do it in public? Or I'm gonna be interrupted every five seconds by somebody who wants to take a photograph? Of course not. Most people realize that.
Starting point is 01:17:57 And they don't interrupt you while you're eating. But some people do not give a fuck. You could be eating with a baby on your lap, mouth full of food, answering the phone, and they tap you, hey, man, can I get a picture? Can I get a picture? Hey, man, can I get a picture? Hey, excuse me, can I get a picture?
Starting point is 01:18:12 I hate to be that guy, but can I get a picture? You hate to be that guy, but you're being that guy. I bought a new car, and I didn't know the... Not this Subaru, the one before it. I didn't know the particulars of it, Joe. I bought it off the lot. I was in a rush. I left the indoor light on. My car was dead on Coinga in fucking Hollywood at rush hour.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Do you know that the guy that came over to say, do you need help in the process goes, hey, man, can I pitch you the... Joe, I swear to my mother's grave, that was the worst thing ever. When I'm on Coinga, the car won't start. I have fucking groceries. The key, the fucking phone was in the car or something. And my car won't start.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I got these groceries. I got to put them down, pop the trunk, and wait for somebody with a fucking... This motherfucker pulls over. I go, you got jumper cables? He goes, no, I don't, but I gotta ask you something. Can I drop off a script to your agent? And I looked at him like, no, you're fucking not.
Starting point is 01:19:14 It was like a Jersey Boy thing where he wanted me to dance. I couldn't fucking... And he had met me one time. He just happened to see me on the street and pulled over in the middle of my fucking... That's hilarious. And came up to me and he goes, hey, man, do you think you can be a guest?
Starting point is 01:19:27 You couldn't go anywhere. You were trapped. And I looked at him and I go, you got to get the fuck out of here. Like, you're not fucking serious right now. You have to go to the proper fucking channels. I take pictures with everybody. Everybody. I do theaters, and after the show, I don't charge anybody.
Starting point is 01:19:45 I stay for hours. I'll take hundreds of pictures. There's lines. We have videos of it, of all these theaters where there's lines around spiral staircases, and I'll wait till everybody's done before I go get something to eat. I do it all the time.
Starting point is 01:19:58 So it's not like I don't want to meet people. I want to meet everybody and be friendly, but there's a certain line that people cross that just shows they're socially goofy. They're just klutzy and clumsy. And those are the exact type of people that are always trying to pitch you something. Who the fuck have you ever pitched anything to?
Starting point is 01:20:14 Who the fuck have you ever pitched anything to? I've never pitched anybody an idea. I've never come up to someone and said, hey, man, there's this project. If we had a name attached to it like you, I really think you could jump off. Like, I don't even know you. Like, you're supposed to have an agent. Like, there's a whole system of things that are in place for a reason. You have
Starting point is 01:20:31 a script. The script is good. The script gets read by reviewers. The reviewers take it. The agency represents it. They bring it out. They contact other people. They say, hey, we've got this script. We think that this could be a really good script. Do you have any actors that would be interested in doing this? And then they contact the agents, the actors. You have meetings. That's how shit gets done. You don't just show up when Joey Diaz's car is broken down and say, hey, I'm trying to break into the business. Like, well, you're doing it wrong. It's like coming up to me and saying,
Starting point is 01:20:54 hey, man, can I open for you? Absolutely not. I don't know you. You want to come with me on the road? What a great idea. A guy I don't know flying around with me, being fucking weird, and who knows how bad you suck. You know, you could be terrible. I've had people that told me they've never gone on stage before,
Starting point is 01:21:10 but they know that they would be fucking awesome, and if they could just go up during my show, it would be the right kind of show to go up for because we have the same sensibilities. Oh, what a great idea. You should do no open mic nights. You should just go directly to a bunch of people that paid to see me, and I'll just let you on stage,
Starting point is 01:21:26 and you do whatever the fuck you want to do. I don't even know you. Like, who asks that? Who says, hey, man, I'm the best, basically, baseball player of all time, and, uh, just, like, Dodgers should just let me play one day and just get out there and show what I can do. Do you want to audition? No, man.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Just let me hit the ball, bro. I'll fucking hit a home run, I guarantee. There's people out there that are that goofy. There's a lot of them, man. And this town is like a magnet for them. Because some of them get on TV. Some of them get on a reality show, and they're so retarded that they're compelling. And then you listen to them.
Starting point is 01:21:56 I mean, how many fucking... Look at Windy City Heat. How about that fucking movie? That's exactly what we're talking about. Windy City Heat is a diary of a madman. I mean, it's a fucking biography. Don Barris, Jimmy Kimmel put together. They took this guy who was out of his fucking mind, and they had this guy convinced that he was a movie star
Starting point is 01:22:15 and that he was something special and he was a celebrity, and they hosed him the entire way. I mean, the guy wasn't in on it at all. And that fucking guy's still around, man. And he still thinks he's, uh... He gets people coming to his shows. He's a real headliner. I mean, you have to hear the shit
Starting point is 01:22:30 that comes out of his mouth. He's hilarious. It's kind of fucked up, man, because they've essentially taken advantage. There's Bobcat Goldthwait, that sick fuck. Look at that look on his face. He loves it. And Don Barris is the master of dealing with retards. Don Barris has a PhD in nuts. He knows how to deal with it. Who's the guy with the wig?
Starting point is 01:22:48 Uh, that's the guy that fucks with Scary Perry all the time. Ridiculous. One of the big three. But like, those type of people are the people that you get at the comedy store. I don't mind the picture taken. I'll tell you what, it gets under my skin. So you've taken 300 pictures. at the Comedy Store. I don't mind the picture taken. I'll tell you what. At all? It gets under my skin.
Starting point is 01:23:06 So you've taken 300 pictures. I've given out hugs. I've smoked pot. I've taken heads off six pipes. I go inside. I hug the staff. I get paid. As I'm walking out the door, there's
Starting point is 01:23:23 four fucking people in an alley. Can we take a picture? Where the fuck were you? Where the fuck were you before? Like, once I'm done, I'm done. I'm done. That's it. Once it's over, it's over for me.
Starting point is 01:23:38 You guys know it. Once it's over, you got a minute to make up your mind, because I'm going. It's over. There's no more nothing. And those are the only ones that I go, I don't get this, that we've been here for two hours and you've been standing there
Starting point is 01:23:50 like a fucking bump on a wall. They get nervous. They want to be with you at the end. And now at the end, as I'm about to go in, I got to stop what the fuck I'm doing, momentum-wise. And fucking, like,
Starting point is 01:24:01 my head wasn't in it no more. That's it. I'm done with the fucking pictures. I'm done talking. I just did two shows. We just talked to 500 people for fucking, I've been here since 7 fucking 30. That's the only part of the fucking thing that doesn't,
Starting point is 01:24:16 on Sunday nights, one of the purposes that I stay in on Sunday nights is to answer emails. I answer anywhere from 80 to 125 emails. Good lord. Every Sunday. I do it because I don anywhere from 80 to 125 emails. Good Lord. I do it because I don't have what everybody else has. That's my little edge. People come to the shows and they go,
Starting point is 01:24:34 I hate your material, but you answered my email. I hate your material, but you answered my email. I don't think you're funny, but you answered my email. People say that to you? And I email six other comics, and they didn't answer me. Well, people are shitty like that. And those people... That's rude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:46 They'll come to your show, they'll buy your shirt just because you answered an email. You know, that's how far I go. I go the whole fucking way with these people. But when I say that's it, that's it. Yeah. Like, I get hit, obviously, for ten fucking podcasts a week. And I don't even know who these people are.
Starting point is 01:25:04 I don't even know who they are.. I don't even know who they are. I have no idea. They're calling me. And they get angry, Joe. That's what burns me up, that they don't understand what we go through here. That, you know, if I get in a car, it's 45 minutes to go somewhere.
Starting point is 01:25:16 That's time. Yeah. And that's an hour and a half. Then I have a baby. I got no babysitter. I got a podcast. I try to work out, you know, not to mention whoever wants to talk to me legitimately about something. Then I got a baby. I got no babysitter. I got a podcast. I try to work out. You know, not to mention whoever wants to talk to me
Starting point is 01:25:26 legitimately about something. Then I got a wife. And then we got to do stand-up. Oh! Then there's a thing that you have to do called writing. Yeah. When the fuck do you want me to... You know, these people that call you up and go, can you do my podcast? Yeah, we do 5 o'clock by the airport.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Listen, you're in no danger. You're in no danger. That's not happening at all. 5 o'clock by the airport. 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you're not getting me out for a fucking podcast. It's either early or late at night. Take your pick. I can't do it. 4 o'clock, I can't do it, guy.
Starting point is 01:25:56 The Culver City, that's an hour each way. You just kill me. If you're lucky. That's three hours for your fucking podcast out of my time. If you do Culver City, you literally have to do 11 in the morning so that you're out by 2 at the latest, and then you get on the road. Because even 2, you're pushing it.
Starting point is 01:26:09 You're 2. It used to be 3 in this town. Now it's 2. 2.15, you're fucking kaputs. I drove at 5 once from Venice, and I said, let's see what it's like. Let's just see what it's like to be on the 405 at 5 o'clock. It was insane. It's insane. It really is insane. And I feel so bad for those people
Starting point is 01:26:26 that have to do that every day. My Mexican does that every single day. Your Mexican? Your girlfriend, you mean? Jesus Christ, dude. Don't call your Mexican. Adam Hunter's my boy, but he tapes that podcast by the airport.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Oh, he's crazy. Oh, that's where the Fox studio is? Yeah. They do it in the same place where Brendan and Cal does his. I think so. I'm not going to Fox at 5 o'clock, though. Yeah, you can suck it. You can suck my dick.
Starting point is 01:26:46 I'm not going to Fox Studios at 5 o'clock. That's what we did fighting the kid over here. I was like, you know, I'll do your podcast, but we'll do it over here. Like, come on, guys. That's retarded. That's too far away. It takes her an hour and 45 minutes every single day, and it's only 23 miles.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Oh, my God. From where to where? From Venice to Burbank. Does she do it back and forth it takes that much, or...? No, that's just one way home. One way is an hour and 45 minutes? Home. Oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 01:27:13 She gets off at 5 and she gets home about 6.30, 7. Oh, my God. That is fucking insane. On the way there, it's only an hour. So three hours on a bad day, she's in the car. Yeah, she's pretty much going to Vegas every day. That's insane. You'd be messed up, pedal to the metal.
Starting point is 01:27:34 I made it back from Vegas once in three hours. But I shouldn't have. I used to make it from San Diego in an hour 35. Yeah, that's nice when that happens. Not a lot of people could. My record's 120. When the drug dealer was closing that one. When that drug dealer was closing that one, dog,
Starting point is 01:27:53 I used to get off the stage at the Comedy Store in La Jolla. I would headline. I didn't give a fuck. How much more time you want me to do? Oh, we want you to do 45 to an hour. Listen, whatever 1140 is, that's what I'm doing. So all these guest sets and all these people you're putting up, at 1140, I get off the stage and I walk right to the car.
Starting point is 01:28:13 The car's already filled up with gas. There's no need to stop. It's pointed to the fire from La Jolla. So what were they trying to do, sandwich a bunch of people on it before you? Yeah, like they were just telling me, you have to stay till 12. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:28:24 An hour 20. My drug dealer closes at 1. I got to hit Los Feliz by fucking 5 to 1, or this situation ain't going to work. I would do 70, 75 from the La Jolla Comedy Store to immigration. And once you're in immigration, Jack, to Irvine, it's 100. There's a certain thing that some clubs would like to do where they want to put on their good local guys
Starting point is 01:28:47 in front of a guy like you. Because they know a guy like you is going to have a good audience. So a bunch of, like, local guys were like, Joey Diaz, do you want to show? Can I get on that show? Can I get on that show? Like, you know who used to do that shit all the time? It's Tom Sawyer in San Francisco. Remember, we used to let Tom book the gig?
Starting point is 01:29:02 And then somewhere along the line, like, yo, dude, done. There's no more of this. No more. Because he was like, you know, I really want to be able to put this show together. I'm like, why would you want to put the show together when it doesn't cost you anymore if I bring my friends and I know they're hilarious? Like, listen, just trust me.
Starting point is 01:29:15 I've got some great local talent. And he's put on this just nightmare of an opening show. And I'd be like, oh, fucking Christ. Two, three guys in a row that you're like, what am I listening to? Oh, God. And be like, oh, fucking Christ, two, three guys in a row that you're like, what am I listening to? Oh, God. And then you'd bring, you know, I'd bring you, or I'd bring Duncan,
Starting point is 01:29:32 or I'd bring Ari, and we'd have a fucking amazing show. But they went, well, Joey Diaz upsets people. And it was like, I don't know if that's the kind of act we want in our club. Nobody hated me more than that fucking mutt. Nobody.
Starting point is 01:29:46 He was the worst? Oh, and I used to go there just to irritate him. I knew he was gay. I knew he was dying to suck your dick. If there was a guy that was dying to suck your dick, it was that guy. He had a girlfriend. He's not gay.
Starting point is 01:30:00 He was a flamer from the fucking jump. The day he showed up with the two-seater to pick you up to do radio, that Ari came up and Ari goes, Joey Diaz, you might be right. That guy's bad. He's got a small car. It doesn't mean he's gay. No, he went out and rented a two-seater so he could have you.
Starting point is 01:30:17 He was trying to get you. He was trying to Cosby you. He likes comedy. No, he didn't like comedy. That's why the guy ran the club well. Where is he today? I don't know. I don't like comedy.
Starting point is 01:30:24 He got out. When somebody likes comedy, they stick with it. That dude was the guy ran the club well. Where is he today? I don't know. I don't like comedy. He got out. When somebody likes comedy, they stick with it. That dude was a dick to a lot of people. And when that guy got fired, a lot of people were happy, bro. He fucked over a lot of people in comedy. I don't know about all that. I like that guy.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Still like him. Had a good time with him. He told like two or three people how he hated when you brought me in. He fucking hated. Because he knew he couldn't suck your dick he knew he was dying to suck your johnson that guy was a pole smoker from the word go he was it's amazing how many guys on the road look at all the guys when we were touring that said things none of them them are around. At the end, they never fucking mattered. When I see a comedy club owner now and he comes and talks to me,
Starting point is 01:31:11 I look right fucking through him. And I don't give a fuck if they're listening to the show. Fuck you! You're a fucking pimp in heat is what you are. I just look at you because... A freak without warning? An appetite for cunts makes him a fucking puke. You know, from Mark Babbitt.
Starting point is 01:31:25 I have to go in and listen to... Shut the fuck up, Mark Babbitt. That's your cocaine buddy. All those douchebags. All those douchebags were the same that made believe there was something so important. And at the end of the week, we outlasted them. We outlasted those fucking pukes.
Starting point is 01:31:41 But those people were important, too, because, look, when Mark Babbitt was around... I hate to be defending Mark Babbitt. No because, look, when Mark Babbitt was around, I hate to be defending Mark Babbitt. No, no, no, Mark Babbitt was a great guy. He was a great guy. But the importance that Houston... Look at Houston comedy. It went kaput after that.
Starting point is 01:31:52 It did go kaput. Kaput, kaput. That's what I'm saying. He broke those motherfuckers. No, but he kept it alive. He was like the Jim Jones of comedy down there. He was giving out blow and, you know, recruiting young kids.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Somebody busted him putting that out for young kids and shit. You know, it was such a... I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, yeah. You know, like, fucking how creepy was the guy from Tempe? As much as I liked him. Oh, poor bastard. You know, when he...
Starting point is 01:32:16 I would listen to the man. Like, his whole vocabulary was... He couldn't wait to say spade. He loved saying the word. The spades? No, like, David Spade. Oh, spade, the Spades. No, like David Spade. Oh, Spade, David Spade. You know, David Spade was from Phoenix, remember?
Starting point is 01:32:30 A card conversation? And he couldn't wait to... Who? You're not gonna believe who's here for the Super Bowl. Spade and Fallon, they're not coming to your stupid fucking club in Arizona, okay? They're not coming to your dumb fucking comedy club in Tempe that year. Like, all those comedy... You know, get them on Letterman.
Starting point is 01:32:46 You're friends with the guy that said that all women weren't funny. Once he got fired, your Letterman juice got lost. That's the only reason why he would go to New York and go to Letterman. It's amazing the self-importance they had on themselves. And at the end of the day, they were worth nothing. And what they don't know about comics is that 90% of comics are fucking whores. They have zero loyalty. So once those motherfuckers are gone, they're gone. Like, they try to call people and say,
Starting point is 01:33:10 hey, how you doing in comics? Just hang up on them. We have nothing to get from you no more. We have nothing in common with you. I've spoken to 20 club owners that are gone that have said that. Jesus, I tried to call Titus. He never returned my call.
Starting point is 01:33:22 You got nothing for him. Well, I'm putting together this one night. Yeah, from Pete to him to Mark Babbitt to the guy in Phoenix called me. I've reached out to 20 comics. Not one of them will help me. You don't have a club no more, guy. I'm the only moron that calls you back because I feel bad for you because you were very good to me. You know, Sarah Nye was the biggest cunt ever.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Who's that? She was a Chinese chick that worked for the improvs. Guys, you don't know what the word cunt was when you talk to Sarah Nye. She was an Asian chick that booked Cleveland and Buffalo in the 90s, and she would abuse you. She would abuse you. Like, if I ever see her now,
Starting point is 01:34:03 you better call domestic violence because I will smack her in the mouth. Like, if I ever see her now, I will go... You better call domestic violence, because I will smack her in the mouth. Whoa, that's threatening. You know a lot of threatening people on the Internet. Fuck. This is terrorism. This is against the patriarchy. She would book Miami, Buffalo, and Cleveland. And what she used to do to comics was fucking rude.
Starting point is 01:34:18 The statements you hear are the opinions of Joey Diaz and Joey Diaz alone. That's my opinion and my fucking heart and my nutsack. You know, these people actually picked up this thing like they were important, and they were no more important are the opinions of Joey Diaz and Joey Diaz alone. That's my opinion in my fucking heart, my nutsack. You know, these people actually picked up this thing like they were important, and they were no more important than talent. Well, I got... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Well, I got to tell you, though, the co-argument, the counter-argument to that is that Mark Babbitt, I think, as crazy as he was, was responsible for creating a scene, like a creative scene. No, I agree with you. They had a goddamn open mic night at that laugh stop that was packed.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Remember? It would start at like 8 o'clock. It would go to 2 o'clock in the morning. And next door, they would be doing another show. So they'd have a show in the main room, which was a perfectly shaped, perfectly sized room. That laugh stop in River Oaks was one of the greatest clubs of all time.
Starting point is 01:34:59 All time. And that fucking maniac ran it. And yeah, apparently, there was some inconsistencies with the books, and there was all sorts of issues according to the owners. Yeah, there was a lot of shit going on. The little boys were missing on the back of milk cartons and shit that he had in the basement.
Starting point is 01:35:14 That I have no knowledge of. But it was a fun club to work. Here's the thing that pisses me off. I had, he broke my ball. Mark Babbitt was one of the, let me just tell you the Mark Babbitt story. Mark Babbitt went to Freddy Soto and said, I'm looking for feature acts.
Starting point is 01:35:27 So Freddy came up to me at the comedy store and he goes, hey, man, Mark Babbitt's looking for feature acts. Send him a tape. I refused to send the tape, especially if I'm at the motherfucking comedy store. Okay? I'm not sending you no fucking tape.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Why is that? I'm at Missy Shaw's comedy store. You want a tape, you take a ride up here. You want, I'll send you a copy of the 1045 spot I get. I ain't sending you no tape. I just refuse. I never should have known me a tape. I refuse.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Especially people from L.A. that would call me up and go, we're putting together a TV show, we need a tape. 1115 at the Comedy Store. No tape. Yeah, I don't fucking send tapes. Mark Babbitt, I sent him a blank tape. Hilarious. Okay?
Starting point is 01:36:06 I sent that jerk off, finally, because the manager I had, Ken Phillips, kept calling me saying, that guy from Houston keeps calling you. He wants you to send him a blank tape. I fucking didn't send him a tape for a year. Finally, one day, I went to fucking Ralph's, bought a tape, put it in an envelope,
Starting point is 01:36:19 and sent it. Put Joey Diaz in there. There was none on the tape. You know that motherfucker called me a week later and said he loved my tape, and he hired me as a feature actor to open for Bobby Slayton? So fuck all you motherfuckers! That whole tape thing is a power move. When you go to a comedy club and you go to his office
Starting point is 01:36:34 to get paid, he's got a TV and he's got a thousand tapes on him with dust on them. He don't watch those fucking tapes. That's his fucking power move, okay? Send me a tape. I sent him the fucking tape. So the first time he booked me, he asked, I called him. He goes, I don't have a feature spot for you, but I have an MC spot. I'm gonna pay you 300 bucks.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Bitch, the plane ticket's 280. At that time, it was 220 or something. So I took the week, but I was always looking for a better week. And I got a guy in Toronto to pay me, like, 800 for a feature week. Uh, uh, Bollywood, whatever the fuck it was called up there. So I did two weeks. So I called Babbit like a man. I told him the truth. a feature week. Uh, Bollywood, whatever the fuck it was called up there.
Starting point is 01:37:06 So I did two weeks. So I called Babbit like a man. I told him the truth. I go, Babbit, I got a week up in Toronto. I got two weeks for $800. Fuck you and your $300 Super Bowl week with Dave Attello. Whatever the fuck you trying to pit me off with, you know? Right. And he goes, okay. And about a month later, I heard he's never gonna hire you again.
Starting point is 01:37:22 You can't... I don't give a fuck. He told me... Oh, he told people I wasn't gonna work again and all this shit. And I fucking called him up, bro. I fucking called him up, and I said, so that's what you're doing? You mean to tell me that you're not gonna... Fuck you. He called me back a week later
Starting point is 01:37:34 and gave me two gigs opening up for Paul Rodriguez in Bakersfield. And then it's just that we were cool. But I sent him a blank tape. That's so funny. I can't believe you sent him a blank tape. Yeah, and then he called me. I loved it. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Joey Diaz and I did a free show there once, and he lost his fucking mind. Then we decided, I came down, it was when my first CD, I recorded a CD in Houston. Look who called me, Pete from Houston. That's hilarious. How fucking cool is that? He must be listening.
Starting point is 01:38:02 I don't know. Maybe somebody called him. Yeah, I bet. I bet that's because Pete was the owner's son, and they found out some discrepancies. Babbitt came in the middle of the night and left with everything. See, Babbitt was doing the Carlos Mencia concerts with the Lapstops money, and then he would put the check back in on Monday morning, so nobody knew. This is an old fucking trick, bro.
Starting point is 01:38:25 When I was a kid, I knew a guy that worked at a bank that would give you cash, 30 grand on a Friday. You better have that cash back by Monday at 9 AM, or some people are going to come knock you the fuck out. But he did it at a bank, bro. So he'd take the money out, and then you'd give him, like, $35, $40? The kilo days, he'd give you 30 grand for a kilo.
Starting point is 01:38:43 But you better be back here Monday with my 45. So he pulled it out of the bank for you. Pulled it right out of the fucking bank. Cash, and give it right back to you. You gave it right back to him on Monday. I was friends with that guy for years. I met him my sophomore year. I was mailing something, and something fell out.
Starting point is 01:38:58 I was working on a lumber yard, and an envelope fell down. And when I went to pick it up, I heard the envelope go... I didn't say nothing. I ripped it. I put it in my pocket. And then I went home. And there was two credit cards and two checks, one for like 20 and one for like 18. And I was going to use the credit cards.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I was a young kid. My mom had just died. I didn't know what the fuck to do. And I went to a buddy of mine who I knew his brother was a little fucked up. And he knew those people. And I said, dog, I got these two checks, one for 18, one for 20. He wrote his brother's number.
Starting point is 01:39:26 He goes, call my brother. He'll take care of it for you. He called the brother. Brother met me. The brother had to be, like, 20. He came with, like, three other fucking mafiosis. And they go, what do you want from this? I go, I want one of the checks, and you keep the other one.
Starting point is 01:39:37 He goes, you'll have your cash tomorrow. Done. Those motherfuckers gave me 20 grand in a bank envelope when I was 16 years old the week John Lennon got shot. Don't you think, though, like, think about, like, how many guys that benefited from having Babbitt run that club? Oh, it was a great club.
Starting point is 01:39:55 It was a great club while he was running it. I'm just saying that... I'm not talking about the job they did. I was talking how most people ran around thinking they were the end-all, be-all. Like there's a lot of club owners that they get to a point that they get so cocky, they're like, oh, I'm calling Hollywood. You'll never work again.
Starting point is 01:40:13 And people really trip. You know, when I first started in this business as a guy, that's the Holly, the drummer from Buddy Holly. He books in Texas. He's a real cunt bag. What he does is he calls you and he goes, I'm going to pay you $2.50 a night from Tuesday to Saturday. And then once the gig week comes up, we only have Saturday left.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Well, I can't drive from Boston to fucking New Orleans for fucking Saturday night. No, you know, I'm not doing it. So I was working with the guy. I had a great relationship with the guy. I moved to Seattle, and he gave me this week in New Mexico, and I wanted to go down there. They had great clubs in New Mexico at the time.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Sure enough, the motherfucker calls me and goes, there's only one night. It's Saturday night. I go, dog, I'm living in Seattle now. I could have gone down there for the other money, but I can't go for one night. This motherfucker told me, if you fucking cancel on me, you'll never work in improv.
Starting point is 01:41:03 You'll never work for nobody. I waited till the night of the gig. And I called this motherfucker at a quarter to eight. He kept calling me. I'm a pager. Where are you? And I kept calling back, I'm 30 miles out. I'm 10 miles out.
Starting point is 01:41:19 At about quarter to eight, I called this motherfucker. I said, don't you ever threaten me again. That looks like your mother's headlining that motherfucker. And I just hung up the fucking phone, dog. Don't you ever threaten me again, you dumb motherfucker. Your mother's headlining the club. And so then, a couple years later, I go to Houston. They tell them, no, dog, there's some guy.
Starting point is 01:41:37 He's looking for somebody to go to Mississippi tomorrow night for like $300. And I go, I'll do it. And they told me the guy, oh, that's the guy I beat. And they go, he forgot. Call him by now. He forgot. I was like, call him.
Starting point is 01:41:50 What did he say? He goes, your name sounds familiar. I go, listen, I'm the headliner. I'm at the store. I've done movies. Just give me the gig for three bills. He goes, oh, your name sounds familiar. Call me tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:42:01 The next day I called him. He goes, I remember you. You're the guy that called me at 10 to 8 and told my mother the headlines. Did you still do the gig? Fuck no. He wouldn't give it to me. Fuck him.
Starting point is 01:42:14 That's the shit that bothered me. That's my thing. That we're young. We're stupid. We're naive. And we believe. And those people take advantage of us. It's like anybody else taking advantage of you.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Babbitt was a great guy. But the reason why the Houston comedy scene is the way it is is because Babbitt fucked with those kids' heads. At some point, he had them like, bitches, don't look at me. Don't make eye contact. Look at the motherfucking floor. Look at the kid that bombed at the comedy store. He never did comedy again.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Babbitt had them telling him, you're gonna be bigger than Carlos. You're gonna be bigger than this guy. You're gonna be bigger than this. You're the next Bill Hicks. You know? Well, he did have bad taste. Right. He had, like, guy. You're gonna be bigger than this. You're the next Bill Hicks. You know? Well, he did have bad taste. Right. He had some bad taste.
Starting point is 01:42:49 He would tell you a guy, I want this guy to open for you. And you would go, what are you talking about? Like, what are you fucking crazy? I'm not gonna have people pay to hear that guy talk. Like he would have guys that were, they had nothing. There was nothing there. This one guy who would just memorize these, like, fake rants.
Starting point is 01:43:05 It was like this long... He would, like, have these big deep breaths in between the rants and just rant this thing out, like, with all these stats and numbers and would say all this shit. And it was because he had memorized it all that it was so impressive. But there was no funny in it.
Starting point is 01:43:20 There was no comedy in it. It was like a trick. It was like, he memorized all this stuff, this crazy brand, but instead of, huh, and then everybody go, oh, that was great, he did that thing. And that was his whole act, was these rants. But they weren't like a, it wasn't like a rant where he
Starting point is 01:43:35 had a point where it made, like a Bill Burr rant, you know, where it's a rant, but there's all these jokes in it, this pointing shit out, and you're laughing. No, there was nothing until the end. In the end, you would clap. He was one of the beginnings of alternative comedy. Like, people go see him. Oh, my God, that's such a brilliant...
Starting point is 01:43:52 You know, because when Jesus Jones wrote that song, you're like, Jesus, what the fuck are you talking about? Look, he faded away, and he cracked. He became a bartender or something. And that's what... You know, a couple... My breakthrough in my life really came when I did analyze that and I met that director.
Starting point is 01:44:09 When I met that dude that was... that they told him to go fuck himself on Saturday Night Live. What dude is that? Harold Ramis. Harold Ramis. He's dead now. He really changed my life. Really? That two-hour... I had a great talk with him about comedy. And he goes, I watched your tape.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Why don't you go to Montreal? And I told him... Wait a minute. You had a tape? I had a stand-up tape at the. And he goes, I watched your tape. Why don't you go to Montreal? Wait a minute, you had a tape? I had a stand-up tape at the time. You gave a tape to him. I fucked you. That's how a rapist gets a tape. That's how a rapist. I put together a...
Starting point is 01:44:33 The improv can go fucking south. At that time, I went to see this lady. I got to know the rules. No, no, I went to see this lady for a movie. And she goes, you're not perfect for this movie, but my next movie is going going to be good for. She goes, I want you to keep in touch with me. And it was Ellen Chenoweth.
Starting point is 01:44:49 That bitch is bad. Like, that bitch just hangs out with De Niro. She was just doing things. She did Bronx Count. She did Bronx Tale, those type of movies. And she really took a liking to me. So she would tell me, send me everything you got. I want to push you for this movie.
Starting point is 01:45:03 But I need for you to send me what you got." So I only had at that time, I only had the mezzos. I had that gay mafia thing. That's all I had. So I put stand-up on it. I had a really good set somewhere and sent it to him. And I remember Harold Ramis pulling me over, and he goes, you're natural. These pricks I see in Montreal, they got dick on you.
Starting point is 01:45:21 I mean, this guy said shit. This is Harold fucking Ramis. And he's the one that looked me in the eye and he goes, don't take shit from these pussies either. He goes, they're all a bunch of pussies. Harold Ramis said that? Oh, my God. He was like, don't take shit from these pussies. Don't take shit from none of these pussies.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Because once you take it, it's like the Klemenser told Michael, they should have stopped Hitler in Munich. Once you take their shit, and I remember how that, I shot that movie in, like, September. And that October, I did that November, that December, Pete, from the goodness of his heart, used to headline me in Houston.
Starting point is 01:45:55 The first guy to ever headline me was Pete Houston. That's why he still calls me. And I give him the respect as a man. I still call him and thank him. Nobody else would even feature me. He was headlining me. He's like, you're a bad motherfucker. He saw me with Pablo in Houston.
Starting point is 01:46:07 And he's like, I'm gonna headline you. So he would headline me in Christmas for two weeks and pay me, Joe, before anybody paid me. And I went down there and did blow and went crazy. But that wasn't the point. Pete took care of me. That wasn't the point. I did blow. I went crazy.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Oh, I used to go crazy. Not for nothing. I just watched my episode of Cold Case after two weeks in Houston. I didn't blow. I went crazy. Oh, I used to go crazy. Not for nothing. I just watched my episode of Coke Case after two weeks in Houston. I was like 400 pounds. My neck was swollen from the sodium and the fucking inositol and the cocaine. My neck was swollen.
Starting point is 01:46:37 I would go to Houston and just eat that barbecue every day and do blow every night and drink shot to Jagermeister. You know, what happens to you? It is awesome. Sounds great. Coke is fun. Burritos from Houston. We'll put some fucking pounds on you. And I remember coming back one day,
Starting point is 01:46:53 and I got a call from a guy at the improv. And this guy was a pretty cool guy to an extent. He goes, hey, man, you know, this is a true story, Joe. This is like January 6th of 2003, and I had just done Analyze That. And this is the first time I was going to test what Harold Ramis said to me. He goes, don't take shit from none of these comedy guys
Starting point is 01:47:14 and tell them all to go fuck themselves. You're a funny guy. Don't ever look back. Go. And I got a call from one of the heads of the improv, and he goes, hey, man, we just got a call that we have a club in Houston, but you work in the other club. And I said, yeah, that's when they were trying to make people not work in Houston. This is early on.
Starting point is 01:47:34 This is 2003, before anything. And I was driving on Melrose. And he goes, you know, it's not right that you do that. We've always taken care of you. And I go, and I snapped, Joe. And I go, taking care of me where? In Miami? For 6.50 a fucking week? I do 13 shows? And I outsell the fucking headliner
Starting point is 01:47:50 because I'm Cuban? How the fuck do you take care of me? When do you take care of me? I go, look at your fucking schedule right now for the next six months. Go look at Irvine. Am I in Irvine? Am I in Ontario? Am I in fucking Brea? No. No. No. You give it to all your boys. Don't say you fucking take care of me." And he goes,
Starting point is 01:48:06 Well, you don't understand. All you have to do is ask. Well, I'm fucking asking. Open your book right now. Oh, I can't. I have to... No, right now. Open your fucking book. And they're like, No. And I go, Listen, the conversation's fucking over. Well, that's anti-competitive practice. And I go, The competition...
Starting point is 01:48:18 I go, The conversation's over. And he goes, No, it's not, because you just won't work any of our improvs. And I go, Say that again to me. I go, say that again. I'm going to go down there, and I'm going to bang your head off that fucking desk. Joe Rogan, just like that.
Starting point is 01:48:32 I was in one of those cocaine morning moods. He caught me at like 10, 15, a bad time to catch me in those cocaine days, because I was probably broke and thinking of where am I going to get my next fix from, and you're calling me, threatening me at 10, 15 in the morning, telling me I can't work Houston when you don't do dick for me.
Starting point is 01:48:48 And I said, say another word. I'm three blocks from your office. I'm gonna go there, and I'm gonna bang your head off your... No, I said, you're gonna say something, I'm gonna say something, you're gonna say something, I'm gonna say something. Then I'm three blocks from your office, I'm gonna go there, I'm gonna bang your head off
Starting point is 01:49:01 your fucking desk. And, dog, I heard a hang-up, and I went home. I didn't call nobody. I thought I was done at the improv. And do you know that two days later, I got a motherfucking call with three weeks from the improv. It was a feature spot in Southern California. So sometimes you got to put your foot down with these creepy motherfuckers, dog,
Starting point is 01:49:19 because they get a power up to... In L.A., nothing happens to you till they see you on television. They treat you like shit. Once they see you in a commercial, because now they know, you know what? You may not be that motherfucker, but you might become that motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:49:36 So they don't give you everything. They still break your balls, but now they know that you're real. This motherfucker could strike. That's the most important thing with me, that every year I keep throwing jabs at them so they can talk all the shit they want, but I'm still alive, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:49:50 You follow me? So they can say all the shit they want. Yeah, but I'm still here. What the fuck have you done? When a company has too many rooms like that and they want too big of a piece of the pie and then they want you to stop doing the other rooms that are in town that you've had a relationship forever,
Starting point is 01:50:03 whether it's Atlanta or Denver. Denver, they had a big issue in Denver, where, you know, when you go there, Wendy will tell you the whole fucking story about it. She had this meeting with people that were going to open up another club in town, and they wanted to tell her they were, you know, they're going to either go into business with her,
Starting point is 01:50:20 allow her to buy in, or, you know, they're basically going to run her out of town. Wow. She's like, oh, yeah, good luck with that. What are you guys going to do for open mic nights? It's one of the things she asked them. And they said, they're basically gonna run her out of town. Wow. She's like, oh, yeah, good luck with that. What are you guys gonna do for open mic nights? It's one of the things she asked him. And they said, we're not gonna have an open mic night. She goes, okay, so let me get this straight. You sell, it's like, if you sold widgets,
Starting point is 01:50:33 why wouldn't you make widgets? You gotta get your widgets from somewhere else? Like, why don't you make your own widgets? Like, you're not gonna develop any widgets? And they were like, they're not thinking in terms of, like, long term. term, especially like someone like Wendy's the best case example. Wendy, in my opinion, is the reason why there's a Denver comedy scene like her supporting those two clubs. The comedy works to the best clubs in the country.
Starting point is 01:50:57 She's the reason why there's a scene in Denver. But she's the best case scenario. She's a cool person. She loves comedy. She's fun to be around. She does it right. But then you got like like, a Babbitt that you got to deal with his shit,
Starting point is 01:51:07 or you got a Tom that you got to deal with his shit. Well, I didn't have to deal with it, but you had to deal with it, you know? And these people, they're responsible for the fucking scene. They're a big part of the scene. Babbitt was responsible for the scene. It's obvious.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Once he left, the scene went away. He was a key cog in that wheel, you know? And when you got a person like Wendy or a person like Babbitt that's, like, a big player in the whole scene, like, they're so important. Because otherwise, all you have is L.A. and New York, and Chicago barely has a scene.
Starting point is 01:51:35 What's the Chicago scene like? Chicago's ripping and rocking. Is it ripping and rocking now? Fuck yeah. Where? Which club? You got Zany's, which is tremendous downtown. Downtown's a great club. Do they have an open mic night?
Starting point is 01:51:45 I don't know, but the Laugh Factory is doing great. Really? Brian Morton, my buddy, is fucking kicking ass over there as the manager. They have an open... Are they developing local talent, though? Dog, he sells out on Friday and Saturday with no headliners. No headliners. That's how good Brian Morton's going after.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Brian Morton walked into that Laugh Factory and said, I want to be a county manager. And James Sala said, well, buddy, who is your favorite comedian? He said, Joey Diaz and Ari motherfucking Shafir. He said, the guy turned pale. He hired him, and the dude's over there ripping that fucking place apart.
Starting point is 01:52:15 So who does he have, local guys? Local guys. Oh, so he's got a local scene. But Zany's is great. That one in Richmond or the other one, Zany's has three of them. Yeah, there's, what's the one that's just outside? The airport is tremendous.
Starting point is 01:52:29 That's tremendous. I've done the other one that's just outside. What is that? It's a great club. Oh, I would shoot a special there. I went off on that one. So who's doing the open mic nights, though? There's a couple clubs now.
Starting point is 01:52:40 There's one other club in Chicago. The Laugh Factory is doing a lot of open mics. There's a comedy scene in a lot of places now. You'd be surprised. You know Mike Epps bought a club in Miami? He did? Miami, huh? Yeah. Does he live down there?
Starting point is 01:52:54 I don't know. I don't know the particulars. I just heard that. But there's a lot of comedy going on. Do you think you would ever want to own a club? Yes. Seems like it would be a huge fucking headache. It would be a huge fucking headache.
Starting point is 01:53:05 It would be a huge headache depending on how you did it. I think that the clubs they're opening now are huge headaches because, A, there's a couple of years ago, I was in the move for Dairy Queen. I go, Terry, there's no fucking Dairy Queens. We got to go all the way to Northridge. Why don't the Northridge have the Dairy Queen tasting like dick?
Starting point is 01:53:28 The reason why is because these had these fucking people that never grew up on Dairy Queen. They bought it as an investment. They mixed it with Orange Julius, and they don't know nothing. They're from another country, and they went to somebody, and they thought that was the best thing. When I go to the Dairy Queen in Tennessee,
Starting point is 01:53:44 that motherfucker's owned it for 41 years. When you go in there Dairy Queen in Tennessee, that motherfucker's owned there for 41 years. When you go in there, you can tell he knows his ice cream. Same thing with some of these comedy clubs now. For some people, they're investments and they come and go. It's the people who really love comedy. And I will tell you one thing. Wendy was there when I walked into that club in 1991. January 18th,une 18 1991 when i walked into that comedy club wendy was there i'm gonna tell you something else wendy was doing things at that club 24 years ago that nobody else was doing she was putting in like bobby collins on a tuesday and wednesday nobody was doing that and having a different headliner come in wednesday and thursday then
Starting point is 01:54:23 have a different headliner coming friday and Thursday, then have a different headliner come in Friday and Saturday. Don't tell me, because I was there. Wendy is really good at what she does. Wendy is one of the top three comedy people in this country. Wendy can make a call and shut your fucking lights out if she really wants to. Wendy deals with everybody. Everybody likes Wendy. Wendy loves comedy.
Starting point is 01:54:43 When Wendy dreams at night, she dreams of an orgy, but there's a comedy. There's a comedy guy on TV doing stand-up while she's getting fucked. Okay? That's Wendy. Wendy knows comedy. I respect Wendy. I never had a problem with Wendy.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Wendy asked me to leave, and I wasn't mad at her. It was business. It wasn't my comedy. It wasn't that she hated me. It was something that happened. She's a real... I never used Wendy. I'm talking about 50% of these people that they actually become the end-all, be-all in comedy,
Starting point is 01:55:18 and we're scared of them, and they fuck with us. They fuck with you, Joe. They fuck with you on a lot of levels. But do you imagine what it would be like to fucking deal with comedians? I mean, they developed this j- It's like, if you deal, like, if you're a woman, okay, and you're walking down the street, and everywhere you go,
Starting point is 01:55:34 men are fucking cat-calling you and yelling shit at you and freaking you out, and you run into a guy in an elevator, you're automatically gonna be like, what? You know, you're automatically gonna be like, Jesus Christ, another guy. Like, I'm tired of getting hit on by guys., you're automatically gonna be like, Jesus Christ, another guy. Like, I'm tired of getting hit on by guys. If you're a fucking owner of a comedy club and you're dealing with wacko comedians all day long,
Starting point is 01:55:54 constantly, think about all the people that we know that are fucking crazy. Crazy. Crazy. All the people that we've dealt with over the years at the store. I, I, I... All the Barry Diamonds. We're the craziest bunch in the world. But there's a certain way to deal with them. There used to be a guy in San Francisco at the punchline that you'd hatch,
Starting point is 01:56:10 or whatever his fucking name was, another cunt, that you'd go up there, and there was no list. He'd point at you to tell you he was next. And you had to sit there like an ugly girl at the prom and hope that he would put you up. And after there was 50 people at the end of the night, he'd go, all right, everybody gone. See you next week. It was like on the waterfront when those people went
Starting point is 01:56:27 and they would get called on when they were up at the morning. You're working today. You're working. You're working. The rest of you go home. He did it in a way to make you feel bad. Todd Sawyer did the same thing to the people at Cobbs. He used to do an open mic on Mondays. I heard people used to call him. Club owners would go, I'm sending Joe Rogan up there
Starting point is 01:56:43 to do it. Okay. Then he'd come up and think, I don't have a spot for you. Bitch, I came all the way up to San Francisco on a Monday. You know what I'm saying? That was the douchey things. Well, how about Jamie makes people wait in front of the Laugh Factory? He makes them sign up in the morning
Starting point is 01:56:56 and wait all day in the sun in L.A. It's 100 fucking degrees outside, and there's a line around the side of the building of people waiting to go on stage for three minutes. And that's actually waiting in line to go next week. You don't even... You have to wait in that whole entire line just to sign up for next week's show, where you have to wait in line again.
Starting point is 01:57:16 It didn't used to be like that. It used to be the week of. Okay, in New York, you go someplace, and they sign you up, and you come back, and they say, listen, you get as many minutes as people you bring. You're earning your keep. That's one thing. I'd rather know where I stand than get fucked with. That's the leg I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Really? You need to tape with me. You just saw him at the store. What the fuck do you need? If I'm good enough for Mitzi Shaw, why do you want to tape? Who the fuck are you in your fucking shit town to want a tape from me? I'm at the fucking major league of fucking comedy.
Starting point is 01:57:51 The comedy store, you call me and you want a tape? Go fuck yourself. I'm not sending you a fucking tape. It's against my fucking will. It's like these people now, with movies and TV, Joey, they want you to do a co-star, but they want you to send the reel. No, don't send shit.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Joey, but they... No, it's a co-star. They could offer it to me. And if they don't, fine, I'll do my podcast, and I'll live another week. That's the mind. And eventually, they'll go, this motherfucker isn't gonna. We might as well give it to him. I'm not doing it for that.
Starting point is 01:58:22 You want me to fucking be a guest star or reoccur? You want to give me a series regular? I'll give you a fucking tape, and I'll fucking come down give it to them. I'm not doing it for that. You want me to fucking be a guest star or reoccur? You want to give me a series regular? I'll give you a fucking tape, and I'll fucking come down and talk to you. But for a co-star, we've been doing this. Look at the IMDB. What fucking tape? Who the fuck are you?
Starting point is 01:58:34 Who the fuck are you to decide? Let me see your fucking tape. Let me see your fucking tape. I ain't sending you no fucking tape. Even then, I had my fucking pride. Even then, I wouldn't send the fucking tape to him. I refused. I finally sent him the blank tape. He gave me that answer, and I never had respect
Starting point is 01:58:51 for none of them again. Because I found that it was a power play. It was like, you're on my court. You know, you want to give me some respect. What respect? What do you do? You're a pimp. You take 20% of what people come to the fucking door. What the fuck do you do? What have you done? You can't even play the fucking ukulele. The fuck do you do? You're a pimp. You take 20% of what people come to the fucking door. What the fuck do you do? What have you done?
Starting point is 01:59:06 You can't even play the fucking ukulele. The fuck do you do? You can't even play the fucking ukulele. What the fuck have you done? That's my... That's where I'm coming from. I didn't want to insult club owners or bad... But they did great jobs. It was the shit they pulled that I didn't fucking like.
Starting point is 01:59:22 I used to bring Joey on the road with me, like, way back in the day. We started going on the road together, what, in, like, the late 90s? Yeah. We started going on the road together, and I would bring him to clubs, and they would go, you know, I just don't think your friend is a good fit for this club. I mean, it's, you know, I'm like, what are you, do you not hear the people laughing? I go, they're all laughing.
Starting point is 01:59:39 You hear all those people laughing. Like, yeah, it's just not our kind of comedy. I go, what kind of comedy is that? I go, you don't like funny comedy? Like, I've had guys tell me that he makes me look bad. This is like way back in the day. It's before people knew who he was. And they were like, you know, let's just say,
Starting point is 01:59:52 we just don't think he's that good, and it's just not what we want for our club. And I'd be like, I'd open the door, listen to that. You hear everybody laughing? What's that? You know, they'd have these ideas, especially in the 90s. They had ideas of like what comedy was.
Starting point is 02:00:04 And there was a lot of pressure to be clean. They'd have these ideas, especially in the 90s. They had ideas of what comedy was. And there was a lot of pressure to be clean. There was a lot more push now before the internet. Once the internet came along, slowly but surely, it sort of expanded everybody's idea of what's acceptable. Even things on television are so... Look at the fucking scene in The Walking Dead. I don't want to tell you. Spoiler alert. Where they hit the people over the head with a bass
Starting point is 02:00:25 and they cut their throats, that was on fucking cable television. It's not on HBO. I mean, and they showed it in the most graphic way possible. I don't think people would have accepted that before the internet had come along. I don't think people would accept that. But now, like, our ideas of, like, what you can say
Starting point is 02:00:41 and what you can't say, they're all so different. And you can get famous from the internet. And because Joey's become famous from the internet, you know, I get to say, like, see, I fucking told you. I told you you were wrong. You had this idea that everybody had to fit in your cookie-cutter world.
Starting point is 02:00:57 And they thought that I was, like, a sick fuck for thinking that you were funny. I'm like, I'm not the only one. Like, you're not here in the rest of the crowd, but until someone comes along and puts you on a television show or puts you in a movie, then they don't want to take that chance. They don't want to take the chance on this wild man.
Starting point is 02:01:12 You know, it was you, it was Ari. Duncan was the only one that nobody ever complained about. Nobody ever complained about me taking Duncan somewhere. You know, because he's a good joke writer, but he's also not, well, he is now. He's gotten much more offensive, like, lately, over the last, like, three years. That's a new joke he, but he's also not... Well, he is now. He's gotten much more offensive. Like, lately, over the last, like, three years. That's a new joke he's got again.
Starting point is 02:01:28 I don't want to spoiler alert it, but he's got some great fucking jokes. But it was this idea that comedy couldn't... It couldn't be like what goes on at the store. It had to be like what they saw on MTV. It had to be what they saw on Comedy Central. You know, it had to be censored shit. Listen, Joe, they saw what they saw on MTV. It had to be what they saw on Comedy Central. You know, it had to be censored shit.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Listen, Joe, they saw what they want to see. I saw a fat little ugly Mexican woman for years kill a late night Marilyn Martinez. Oh, yeah. And then one day, and the girl couldn't pay her rent. And then one day, a girl by the name of Lisa Lampanelli came around with the same act, only she was a white girl, and she fucking killed her, and they went crazy over it.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Well, Lisa's a really good marketer. You don't know what they're going to go for. What comes out of my mouth, I've seen people say worse than me, and they love him, and they love him. You know, I remember going for a showcase for two and a half men before the show even started. Do you know that?
Starting point is 02:02:18 They were looking for comedians for sidekicks at the Laugh Factory ten years ago. We all went on a Monday night, and the thing about me was they really liked me, but he's a little too dirty for our show. I never watched the show until about five years ago. One day I was in a hotel, and they put it on. The whole show was about sex.
Starting point is 02:02:34 It was all about Charlie Sheen being a pervert. Being a pervert. That was like... So what was your point that night? Embarrassing me to tell me I was dirty and I wasn't for your thing? I always found that you got picked on a little. Always.
Starting point is 02:02:48 As an example, as a comedy and magic club, I remember he thought you were too dirty, but then Ari was allowed to go on, and Ari was a million times dirty. He was a gentleman because he told me to my face. That guy from the comedy and magic club, I give him the utmost respect because he told me on a Saturday night after I went there
Starting point is 02:03:04 and bombed, he pulled me aside and he goes, Joey, I think this is the last time you came down here. You know, they just used me. You know what the fuck up with him is? He moved to me. And I'm not mad at that guy. He's got that Jay Leno crowd. Right. And he told me to my face, and that's all I want.
Starting point is 02:03:17 Dog, dog, Joe Rogan, and I know that you... I've been fucked with a little bit, and that's why I am as defensive as I am. I don't have time for these people, and I didn't have time for them. Once I made up my mind that I was working hard and that I was doing the right thing, I didn't let people influence me.
Starting point is 02:03:32 I didn't want to go to Montreal no more. They can't... They don't hold up. Since 2004, I haven't wanted to do nothing. I don't want to do nothing. They're a part of it. You don't see me. I don't bother nobody. I'm in my own circle. Nobody sees me. I go to the store. I'm not a part of it. I don't want to. They don't want me, and I don't want to include. But I'm own circle. Nobody sees me. I go to the store. I'm not a part of the... I don't want to.
Starting point is 02:03:45 They don't want me, and I don't want to include. But I'm gonna keep doing what the fuck I do, and I'm just gonna keep getting funnier. And I'm gonna keep getting funnier, and I'm gonna get a hold of this, and you're gonna be... Where the fuck are you gonna be? You're gonna keep saying you don't like my style of comedy? How bad are you gonna look?
Starting point is 02:03:59 That's been my life since day one, dog. I've always been trying to prove somebody fucking off of something. No, they don't like me. I can't be trusted. Well, I'm still fucking here 15 years later, and there's been no problems, and nobody's missing a fucking head. So for you people who couldn't trust me, you're wrong, too. If I wanted to rob you, I would have robbed you a long fucking time ago.
Starting point is 02:04:17 It would be my pleasure to rob somebody who talks shit about me. That's how I roll. Is your nose stuffed up, or is there something wrong with your microphone? No, my nose. Your nose is is there something wrong with your microphone? No, it's... No, my nose. Your nose is not working at all, is it?
Starting point is 02:04:29 I forgot my drops. Do you want to blow it? Do you want to... I did. I went before, but it's just... Do you want some tissue paper or something? Yeah, excuse myself. I'm sorry, guys. I just thought there was something wrong with your microphone. No, no, no, no. I was playing with it.
Starting point is 02:04:38 I was hearing that weird crackling noise. I thought it was like it was staticking out or something like that. I see what they do to people. I see what they do to people. I know. When I can sit here and cry. Some amount of energy is, you know, it's good to recognize it and to see what it is. But, you know, some amount of energy, when you start talking about it too much, it becomes a waste of time.
Starting point is 02:04:54 And now, the best line Eddie Griffin ever said was when he went to see Amistad. He saw white people walking out covering their faces. I love seeing people that didn't like me 10 years ago. I smiled at him, and I waved my fingers. Well, do you remember that one time, let's not mention any names, but there was this one agent that would tell me that you weren't talented. And then one day, you and I were in first class,
Starting point is 02:05:18 and he walked past us, the coach. The coach. And Joey was laughing at him. Look at this fucking momo. Get back there where you belong." You know, it's... It's... I think these guys get a little God complex, and they're not God because they don't know the work
Starting point is 02:05:33 and the effort we put into it. It hurt my feelings, and a lot of it hurt my feelings. Well, you win, Joey. But it was the best thing they ever did. Because it's like... They made it hard for you. Yeah, they made it hard for me. And now they're not around. There's so many people who are not around anymore who I thought would be around forever,
Starting point is 02:05:48 including a lot of comics, who came to the store fucking barreling through the store, Montreal deals, this and that, and they fucking disappeared. And then there's guys like me and Ari. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something to your face right now, and you too, Red Band. What Ari did in front of me in Vegas is some of the best material I've heard in the last two years. And then there's guys like me and Ari. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something to your face right now. You too, red band.
Starting point is 02:06:06 What Ari did in front of me in Vegas is some of the best material I've heard in the last two years. I'm gonna tell you that right now. He killed. The Biggie Small stuff. It's hilarious. And the thing about shit in China. Guys, best material I've heard in the last two years.
Starting point is 02:06:17 And for you motherfuckers that had your complaints about it, I remember somebody coming up, a club owner telling me, remember in one of his first big jokes, his texting and shitting, playing video games? I'll never forget that owner saying that was the worst bit he ever heard in his life, and me going, another fucking moron that doesn't know anything about what we're doing.
Starting point is 02:06:35 Well, it was the same thing. It was like, there was no TV credits, and I would bring you guys to open, and they would just decide that you weren't ready or you weren't good or that I was picking the wrong horse. And, you know, they would tell me that. They would tell me that, like, these guys, they're not that talented.
Starting point is 02:06:49 I'm like, you're out of your fucking mind. Like, I know what funny is. I've been around funny for a long time. If I was a talent scout, I mean, my record for, like, picking guys to open for me that are funny, that turn out to be, like, big headliners, it's undisputed. Undisputed.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Like, every one of them. Everybody became a big headliner. you know, all of them. It's like, comics know what's good. And you're not gonna be good every night. There's not gonna be good every joke. Every time you try new shit, you run the risk of it not working. But the guys who try new shit are the guys who are good. And the guys, you know, sometimes the sets go bad.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Sometimes things go awry. But that's because you're taking chances is these this cut cookie cutter bland non-offensive stuff that's not exciting to me what's exciting to me is people that do wild shit and take chances but when you don't have credits man they automatically assume look i've experienced that the difference between and my experience if i have it happened for me really quickly but the the difference between how people reacted to me before I was on TV and how they reacted after I was on television, like the gigs that I could get,
Starting point is 02:07:53 places that I could work, are the same act. But all of a sudden, just one or two TV credits, and all of a sudden, they let me in. All those, like, early TV credits that I got, like Caroline's Comedy Hour and MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour, as soon as I got that, I was in. It's just like they needed a pass. They needed to be able to say,
Starting point is 02:08:11 oh, this guy's approved by a higher power, you know, whether it's MTV or whatever it is. And then you're on a sitcom. Like, you could work anywhere. When I was a kid and I watched Pryor, you know? Jamie Vernon, can't hold his bladder. And I used to watch Pryor, whatever, Kennison. Brian Redband, got to pee on him. I always thought that was the best time for comedy in our lives.
Starting point is 02:08:31 But I got to tell you something right now. In the last 100 years, and I'm not talking this out of my ass. You can go home and think about what the fuck I'm telling you. Right now is the best time that comedy has ever been. Oh, yeah. And I'm going gonna tell you why. Yeah, they gave us greats. They gave us Gleason.
Starting point is 02:08:48 They gave us this guy. They gave us that guy. And how good really were they, you know? Now, today, what we have is we have what you fucking idiots buy into, the shit that they shoved down your throat. But guess what's also happened? The underground has become mainstream because of the internet.
Starting point is 02:09:05 So you... the shit that they were pushing at you 20 years ago, the shit they're pushing at you and these fucking comedy channels anymore, it's not the end-all, be-all now. You motherfuckers are figuring it out for yourselves, that they've been shoving shit down our fucking throats. Well, you know, what I know is there was this period of time for more than ten years
Starting point is 02:09:23 where they were focusing on what they thought what the agents and the managers thought was Clever or inside comedy like comedy that the comedians thought was appropriate there or that that like certain groups Thought was appropriate like you got that alternative movement and they were trying to push that hard Like this was the hip guy to be attached to. This was the hip guy. And how many of those guys did we want just fucking die? Die. Die. Fuck them. Die. And they walked around like they were doing something different.
Starting point is 02:09:56 Yeah, like, what they were doing, even though it wasn't funny, it was better. It was better because somehow or another, you were... Fuck them. Because you talked about getting your dick sucked or doing coke, like, oh, he's... Ugh. Ugh. Who wants to hear that? It's funny. That's what you're missing.
Starting point is 02:10:12 You're missing, like... And that's one of the things that freed us with podcasts. Because you don't have to constantly, like, express yourself in a way where people have this, uh... You know, this idea of you on stage you don't have to present who you are everybody already knows you they know who you are so when you're talking about something on stage you just this is what i think is funny about this you don't have to like this is what is his philosophy how does he feel about the new world order what is
Starting point is 02:10:40 his thoughts on chemtrails how does he feel about is he equal rights he pro-choice? You don't have to say any of that. You don't have to establish yourself as a left-wing guy or a right-wing guy. But that was a big part of comedy for a while. People would do stuff that would establish themselves. Guys would say things that weren't funny at all. But if you want to... Bill Hicks had a fucking bit about if you you want, you know, if you want people to not have abortions, you fucking raise those kids.
Starting point is 02:11:10 You fucking raise those kids. Yeah, okay. Where's the joke? There was no joke in it. Because back then, if you had an important point, you wanted to sandwich that point in between jokes. Because in people, a lot of times to this day, people get upset at that comedy.
Starting point is 02:11:23 And rightly so. And they say it's preachy You're using your your your time on stage to preach Instead of to be funny and you can do both and if you're not doing both you're taking a shortcut Because you you you you have an advantage you're on stage if you're on stage and you start talking about something You have a point of view about Republicans or Democrats, and it's not funny. It's just your opinion. If I'm in the audience, I'm like, I disagree. You know, I think this. My opinion, it differs. I don't want to hear your opinion.
Starting point is 02:11:50 How come I can't talk about my opinion? But if you go on stage with your opinion and you make me laugh, well, that's different. Because then, like, you've planted an idea in my head that I might not ordinarily accept ever, but you've made me laugh with it. You know, and like, Ari says fucked up shit all the time that I don't agree with, but it's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:12:09 Because he's not necessarily even saying it because he agrees with it. He's saying it because it's a funnier thing to say. You know, you do that too. You say shit on stage I know you don't really mean. But you, it's fucking funny. And I talk about it. I talked about it in my last special.
Starting point is 02:12:24 It's a very important point that we do. We say shit we don't really mean because it's fucking funny. And I talk about it. I talked about it in my last special. It's a very important point that we do. We say shit we don't really mean because it's funnier. That's what comedy is. And for the longest time, there was this idea that comedy had to adhere to, like, certain rules in order for it to be highbrow, or certain rules for it to be considered alternative or sophisticated or, you know,
Starting point is 02:12:46 this is progressive stand-up comedy. But you're missing the funny part. It's missing a lot of that. To become this other thing, to, like, fit into this ideology, to be accepted, you're missing a lot of the funny. Like, it's not in there. Like, there's certain things you don't talk about.
Starting point is 02:13:02 Like, you won't talk about sex. You don't ever talk about sex? Like, you're on stage, you don't talk about. Like, you won't talk about sex. You don't ever talk about sex? Like, you're on stage, you don't talk about sex. That seems ridiculous to me. Like, that seems outrageous. And someone says, like, oh, how could this guy be good? He's doing jokes about... I've heard people say that.
Starting point is 02:13:15 Like, you're telling me this guy's doing jokes about jerking off. Like, yeah, that's really challenging. Um, I don't... I'm not asking him to climb Mount Kilimanjaro. All right, I'm asking him to tell jokes that are funny, that make me laugh. I want good stuff, you know, and it doesn't matter what it's about. If it's funny, it's fucking funny.
Starting point is 02:13:32 And those people had this idea, and for the longest time, they pushed that idea. But now the floodgates are broken. Now they're like, ah, fucking, the Brody Stevens are running through. I mean, everybody's running through. And Brody could be mainstream. Brody's like squeaky clean. But it's like nobody could figure out what to do with Brody Stevens are running through. I mean, everybody's running through. And Brody could be mainstream. Brody's like squeaky clean. But it's like, nobody could figure out what to do with Brody.
Starting point is 02:13:49 And then all of a sudden, people realized, like, we gotta put him on TV in some way. Like, he's fucking goddamn hilarious. Like, how can we figure out a way to get that guy on TV? And you're the same thing. And Ari's the same thing. It's like, the internet has allowed people to see what you really are.
Starting point is 02:14:06 You know, it allowed people to see the internet. And all they had to do is, like, see the numbers of the podcast that get downloaded, and then they go, well, I guess we gotta get on board here. And then they all just get on board. It's 2015, and a lot of these comedy clubs don't even know about the podcasters. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:20 It's amazing. And I'm like, this is your realm of business, and you have no idea how to, you know, no, I'm not doing a podcast. You guys have no, you just want somebody to come and, no, no. You guys have no idea, no concept. How can you not have no concept? You're in the fucking entertainment business.
Starting point is 02:14:36 They'll know within a year or two. Within a year or two, everyone will know. And it'll be the most important thing that they invest in. Every comedy club, if you have a local scene, every comedy club should have a podcast. You should have your own podcast. How hard is that? You got a guy coming in for a week, you tell him,
Starting point is 02:14:51 hey, come down, you're going to do this radio station, you're going to do that radio station, you're going to do our podcast for an hour. We'll put our podcast up that day. Everybody is addicted to the podcast. They know who the guys are that are going to be on that week. Hey, Nick DiPaolo's in town. He's going to be doing the Blah Blah Blah Club podcast,
Starting point is 02:15:06 you know, the fucking Ice House Chronicles podcast, or the fucking Flappers finale pod... Flappers Fest. Whatever the fuck, you know, name it up. The Comedy Store Countdown, you know, whatever the hell. Every club should have its own shit. So, like, you have the guy who's, you know, maybe not the store because we don't...
Starting point is 02:15:22 It's not like a headline club for the weekend. But any club that's like Zany's in Nashville, they should have an hour podcast. They release every week with the headliner. How hard would that be, you know? Have a local guy host it, have them understand that the idea is to just shoot the shit. You know, if you had a good local guy, you could do it,
Starting point is 02:15:40 and you do it under the name of the comedy club. Or maybe even switch hosts out. Like, maybe you have the middle guy in the headliner every week do a podcast together. You would get a lot of people addicted, first of all, addicted to that podcast and excited about going to the club that week. That weekend. Yeah, I mean, how hard is that to do? You know who's been doing that for a while is Atlanta.
Starting point is 02:15:59 Yes. Haven't they? Because I remember interviewing you a long time ago. Jamie, yeah. Fuck, yeah. That was, Jesus, that was like when we first started doing podcasts. Even longer than that, maybe. Did he have a podcast before we did?
Starting point is 02:16:13 Yeah. You think so? Because I remember him interviewing you in the office. And this was like when you threw me up on stage the first time back from my break, which was like, I want to say six years ago or so. You're right. It was probably before we even started ours.
Starting point is 02:16:31 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he had a good sense of it. Well, that's a good club, too, that fosters local talent. There's a lot of local guys that come out of Atlanta that they're actually moving the punch line. You hear that? They're losing their location. Oh, no. Yeah, they're moving to another spot. Apparently, they always had an issue with parking there.
Starting point is 02:16:46 And apparently, it just got too much. Atlanta opened up an improv. In that green room. Did they? An improv opened up in Atlanta. Brian Callum did it. Oh, did he? They have that Laughing Skull, too.
Starting point is 02:16:54 It's a great fucking spot. Laughing Skull's a great spot. Yeah. And I'm going to tell you something else about Wendy and her defense. In 1994, Wendy hired two headliners to help the open micers develop. Do you know that?
Starting point is 02:17:08 Hired them? Like, to help them write their material? Hired them so you would meet at 6 at the Comedy Works. She'd buy, she'd cater it, get, like, tacos. And you sat around and you wrote material with the headliner, and then you went and did the open mic, and the headliner graded you. Wow. A lot of clubs, 1994,
Starting point is 02:17:23 Matt Woods was the guy who gave me the talk, who told me, get your life together, don't come back here, you're funny, but you're wasting your time. Right. That's how I got that. She used to pay Matt Woods. Wow.
Starting point is 02:17:35 And she paid a couple other guys, man. So that's how much she had foresight. Like, she really believes in developing. They give you three minutes once a month at the Comedy Works. That's what it used to be. Then you had to work around town. You had to do McKelvey's, Witt's End. You had to do those open mics, you know.
Starting point is 02:17:54 But Wendy always did try to homegrown her own comics. You know, all those holidays, she puts locals, you know. Anytime she could sneak locals in there. You know, her lineup is killers. A lot of people used to bring their own people because they didn't like working there. Because she'd have Rick Kearns, you know, Todd Jordan, Steve McGrew,
Starting point is 02:18:13 and some guy had to come in and follow her. It was hard for them. Really? So the guys would bring in their own acts because the local guys were too strong? She always had help. So it's like the comedy store. So what if I call the Comedy Store and say,
Starting point is 02:18:25 all right, I'm coming in for the weekend, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I'm working it, but there's no feature or emcee. It's the Comedy Store lineup. So I'll go in and it's you, Marin, and Sebastian, and I'm going up the headline. I don't want to follow that mess. Yeah, I see. That's work, Jack.
Starting point is 02:18:41 So a lot of people started bringing their own. Wendy's very smart. Wendy had a club in Tampa. When the Comedy Forks first... Yeah, I see. That's work, Jack. Mm. So a lot of people started bringing their own. Wendy's very smart. Wendy had a club in Tampa. When the Comedy Forks first, when I first got involved with the Comedy Works, they had Tampa and Fort Collins. Really? And Wendy used to send me up to Fort Collins.
Starting point is 02:18:55 Tampa, Florida? Tampa, Florida. And Fort Collins. I used to go to Fort Collins. When I first started, Wendy sent me to Fort Collins every Tuesday, every Monday or something, Wednesday. They did an open mic for comics. Did five minutes, and then they started a regular show.
Starting point is 02:19:09 And then they closed Fort Collins, they closed Tampa, and they kept Denver, because Denver was her bread and butter. Wasn't she gonna open in Chicago at one point in time, too? Yes, yes. But Wendy's very smart, man. Wendy knows that you're not gonna do the job, nobody's gonna do the job you're doing unless they love comedy as much as you do.
Starting point is 02:19:28 Right. Wendy's very hands-on. Yeah, and to get somebody to run your club. That loves... You know, you've been to a club. When you walk in, you're like... Yeah. These people don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Starting point is 02:19:40 This guy was at an Olive Garden for eight years pushing spaghetti. Right. Now he's doing comedy. It doesn't fucking translate. The Chicago Improv. Remember the guy was watching us. We couldn't smoke dope.
Starting point is 02:19:54 We couldn't bring people up on stage. Remember we came out to... We had some craziness going on once, and they were freaking out. They were freaking out. They're like, he's got people on stage with him. Yeah, we can't have it. Nobody in the green room.
Starting point is 02:20:06 We came out to Bob Marley, Exodus. Oh, I don't know. We have this dentist music. We're going to a con. We're like, no. This is, no. Yeah, they were trying to do some goofy shit. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 02:20:18 There's two things that happened. There was like two shifts in bringing you guys on the road with me. The first one was like people didn't want you guys because you were too dirty. But the second one was why are you bringing these guys? They're too good. It's like there was a shift somewhere like in the 2000s where I tell people, you know, Joey Diaz comes on the road with me. They're like, you have Joey Diaz open for you on purpose?
Starting point is 02:20:38 Like, why the fuck would you do that? But it's what you were talking about with this Denver thing. Like, people don't want to follow people that are strong, like funny acts. But doesn't that make it fun for everybody? Makes it fun for everybody. Like, why is that a bad thing? You know, I mean, it should be the opposite attitude. I mean, if you've worked on your comedy,
Starting point is 02:20:57 and your comedy's good, you should be excited that the whole show is really good, and you just ride that wave, go on after it, especially if you are friends with the guys who are on the show with you. If you love them, you want them to have fun. You want everybody to laugh at them because you love them. And then you just, like we did this show,
Starting point is 02:21:13 we just did in Vegas. That fucking show was amazing. That was a fun show. It was Ari, Duncan, Joey, me. And the Mirage, that fucking Terry Fedor showroom is so good, they have... They set it up for that ventriloquist dude. So the voice has to be perfect.
Starting point is 02:21:29 You know, you have to be able to hear his voice, his act. So the speaker system is amazing. You're in the... I was in the back of the room. I could hear everything, like, crystal clear. When you were on stage, I was in the back of the room. Not this time, but one of the other times we did it. You hear everything you say, crystal clear. It's perfect. It's an amazing room.
Starting point is 02:21:47 But just to emphasize that, you know, a lot of comics listen to these shows, these podcasts, and they walked around like I did, fucking scared, you know? And then one day I got it. I'm like, fuck these bitches. This is my motherfucking playing field, and if they don't like it, they're gonna go down. And my life changed
Starting point is 02:22:05 my comedy changed my outlook changed you know i let them scare me the same way i let people scare me about life you know when i was young and then when dad said fuck you motherfuckers and it's the same thing and i'm happy i did that with comedy i would have been running scared you know there's club owners that'll come with you and go hey next time there's a club owner that i worked for years ago they'll come with up to you and go, hey, man, you should put something on that joke. And then after you got off the second show, he's like, you didn't add my tag.
Starting point is 02:22:32 Bitch, I don't fucking know you. Who said that to you? There's some fucking jerk over there that's still around. I don't want to, you know. He would come up to me and say, oh, this tag would sound better. Get the, you know, get the fuck out of my head. And then on the way home, he'd tell me again, you gotta really use my tag.
Starting point is 02:22:47 I'm like, what the ass a dog? When was the last time you were on a fucking stage? I'm not gonna use your fucking tag. Get the fuck out of here. And then after that, he would hire me, and wouldn't talk to me the whole weekend. Get the fuck out of my face, all right? I'm not gonna fucking use your tag, guy.
Starting point is 02:23:02 You know, we work hard at what we do, and you gotta respect that. It's like a plumber or an electrician coming to my house and me telling him how to fucking do his job. What the fuck am I? You booked me. Now you're going to tell me how the fuck to do it? Get the fuck out of my face. Well, a lot of them used to be comics. There was a lot of guys that got involved in comedy.
Starting point is 02:23:16 Oh, those are the worst. Those are the worst. Those are the worst. Those are the worst. Barry Katz was a comic. Did you know Barry Katz was a comic? Early on? Yeah, they were the comic. But he became a good fucking manager. You know, these guys... How high are you right now?
Starting point is 02:23:29 Jesus. These guys... Well, the proof is in the pudding. He had a lot of good people. Had. It's a good word. That's my point. But still, he had them, and he developed them,
Starting point is 02:23:39 and they did something while he had them. There's people who are comedy club, who are comedians, that one day go, oh, wait a second. I'm going to figure out how to make money on these jerk offs. Then they become comedy club owners. There's a couple of them at local clubs around here that tell you what to say. You can't work clean. You can't work clean?
Starting point is 02:23:57 No, you can't work dirty. Oh, you can't work dirty. They don't want to pay you. Oh, come do radio. We're not going to give you a hotel. What are you talking about? You're a comic. So when I work for a comic, I let them know right off the bat, listen, before this goes any further, you're a comic. So I'm not gonna have to tell you how to act correctly. What's that mean, that there's a TV in the green room,
Starting point is 02:24:17 that everything's copacetic? Because you're a comic. And that's when I just don't. Every time, any time. I don't understand what you're saying. There's a comic, there's a TV in the green room... If you're a fucking comic, there better not be no misunderstandings, because you're a comic and you know the business.
Starting point is 02:24:31 Right. You know how we act and you know how it works. I don't want to hear no misunderstandings about checks or how the green room should be or there should be sodas in the green room. You're a fucking comic. If you're a comic and I go to your green room that's the size of a closet, you're not a fucking...
Starting point is 02:24:46 You're a scumbag just trying to make money on fucking comics. If a comic opens up a room, I want that room to be that much better because you're a comic. If a comic opens a room. Opens a room. Well, how many comics open a room?
Starting point is 02:25:00 A lot of them. Brad Garrett. A lot of Vegas, you know, just big names. Brad Garrett's club is supposed to be the shit, man. Yeah, and Brad Garrett was the shit. That's the big difference. He wasn't a bad stand-up. I'm talking about guys that were bad stand-ups.
Starting point is 02:25:11 And then one day go, I'm going to become a stand-up. Then they try to tell you shit when you get there. And you're like, do me a favor, bro. This is not what you're doing. You headlined Fourth of July and Christmas. Come back then. Tonight, Uncle Joey's here. Get the fuck out of my face.
Starting point is 02:25:23 If we were going to buy a club, it would be the Ice House. The Ice House would be the club to buy. Or Flappers. Flappers? Really? Flappers is a beautiful club, just the... Well, it's hard to fucking get people to go to a club. You know, like, think about everybody that goes to the store,
Starting point is 02:25:37 everybody that goes to the improv. There's, like, there's only so many guys. You know, there's so many clubs that we could work out here. You know, like, when I was preparing for the last Comedy Central special, I was doing the ha-ha on at here. You know, like, when I was preparing for the last Comedy Central special, I was doing the ha-ha on Tuesday nights.
Starting point is 02:25:48 I was doing the improv. I was doing Irvine occasionally. I was doing all these different clubs. Ice Club, Ice House. Ice House. Hopping all over the place. Like, there's a lot
Starting point is 02:25:56 of clubs here. This is like, as far as, like, a hotbed of places to work, this is one of the best spots in the country. Have you been in the new Ice House yet? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:26:05 The new ice house? I mean, new HaHa. There's a new HaHa? Yeah. Oh, the one across the street? Supposedly, they just had a cold open on January 1st, and I heard it's beautiful. Four months ago, they were doing shows there. No, they...
Starting point is 02:26:17 They had a show there. They just didn't have... License. Right, right, right. There wasn't quite a show. It was like an invitation-only party that was not catered with alcohol. Have you seen it? I haven right, right, right. We heard it from the local management. It wasn't quite a show. It was like an invitation-only party that was not catered with alcohol.
Starting point is 02:26:28 Have you seen it? I haven't seen it, but I heard it's like the Ice House. I heard it's like the Ice House main room stage. It's bigger, though. It's bigger, though. Yeah, it's like the Ice House only sits like 100-something. This is like 200-something. Wow.
Starting point is 02:26:38 Yeah, but still small, you know? Still like maybe a little bit bigger than the OR, but not as big as the main room. I did the main room the other night, and then I did the OR afterwards. The OR is such a better room. It's such a better room. OR. It's the best.
Starting point is 02:26:49 It's such a better room. That's the way you're supposed to do comedy, jammed in there, stacked on top of each other, low ceiling. It's the most fun. And the closest thing to the OR is the San Francisco Punchline. Fuck yeah, it is. Closest thing to the OR.
Starting point is 02:27:00 They just tried to offer me to do the COBS again. I said, no, you're an ornery. No, no, no. Cobbs is a great club, but the punchline is so intimate, I don't care about the money. I just want to have a great time. I don't fucking give a fuck. Just let me go up there and go crazy.
Starting point is 02:27:14 What do I give a fuck about? Yeah, it's worth paying or getting paid less to do that club. Yeah, there's just some rooms to that. If I opened up a club, I think they're opening up a club with too many moving parts now. I think they're getting ahead of themselves. And it's like I always say,
Starting point is 02:27:27 you put all these smart guys together and they do the dumbest thing in the fucking world. You know, I still love this. That's what I do. I want to do comedy right there in front of that wall. Brick walls? If there's anything else on there, you're wasting my time.
Starting point is 02:27:40 You want to serve food? Go serve it on your own time. Just give these motherfuckers stiff fucking drinks. Stiff drinks. Let them get fucked up and sit there. Okay? You know, really? Uh-uh, well, there's 600 seats. When do you get 600 people in here?
Starting point is 02:27:55 Really? Kevin Hart's gonna play here? Not in your fucking dreams, you dumb fuck. Well, they wind up papering a lot of rooms. Yeah, and it's a waste. You need two fifths, two hundred, two and a quarter for a great room. Yeah, and it's a waste. You need two-fifth, two-hundred, two-and-a-quarter for a great room, brick, a tremendous sound system, sell hot dogs next door or do something special, but after the show, so you don't have to fuck with the waitstaff, and let them go in there and sling drinks, bro.
Starting point is 02:28:17 Two shows, you know, that's what I would do as a comic. The green room would be paradise. You know, there's things that you do. These people now opening up clubs thinking that 600 people are going to show up. You know, last night I saw something interesting. Again, I was in the room last night and I came out. My wife was watching
Starting point is 02:28:34 the fucking Emmys, whatever the fuck was on last night. And who's in the fucking Emmys up there standing killing it but Margaret Cho dressed as the Korean guy with white powder on her face, walking across stage like Fidel Castro. And I'm thinking about what they put her through
Starting point is 02:28:49 20 years ago and how they did to her when they gave her that ABC show. Because after the Tim Allen rush, after the Tim Allen rush, okay, after the Tim Allen and Roseanne rush, something happened. The network said, we gotta get a bunch of comics. That's it. That's the idea. So they gave Greg Giraldo a show.
Starting point is 02:29:05 They gave Tom Rhodes a show on NBC. Brett Butler. Brett Butler a show on ABC. And they gave that poor Margaret Cho. And then they insulted her. They told her not to be chinky. They were saying all this shit to her. You know, be more Chinese.
Starting point is 02:29:18 They were just insulting her insides. Then they canceled everybody. And you know what? Half of these fucking punks today would fucking crawl under the tree. I'm looking at Margaret Cho last time going, I bet Margaret Cho's happy that she didn't fucking quit or bail out
Starting point is 02:29:32 or got hooked on drugs. Margaret Cho said, fuck you motherfuckers. I'm just going to get stronger as a comic. She built up a huge following on the road. Whether they're gay or not, they spend bucks and she sells out. That bitch is tatted from her head to her fucking toe with fuck you in Korean letters
Starting point is 02:29:52 to all these fucking Gentiles. And 20 years later, that chick was killing it last night on stage with Amy Poehler and Tina Fey, the two hottest comedy chicks in the fucking world. How do you like me now, bitch? What'd they put that fucking chick through 20 years ago? They embarrassed her. They made her feel like shit. They told her to lose weight.
Starting point is 02:30:09 Do you remember the shit that she came out with years later, and they told her she was never gonna work again? You're doomed for going against the network. Well... How'd she go against the network? What'd she do? She told them what they were telling her. They'd lose weight.
Starting point is 02:30:21 There's no fat Asians. Oh, my God! The shit they were saying to Margaret Cho that she came out and said later. There's no fat Asians. Oh, my God. The shit they were saying to Margaret Cho that she came out and said later. There's no fat Asians. Last night, if I was Margaret Cho, I would have took this Cuban disgusting dick out with that fucking foreskin on it
Starting point is 02:30:34 and said, here you go, America. Yum-yums for a week. This ain't a fucking malfunction of a wardrobe. This is just to tell you that you can't stop comedians, bro. We just get better don't you know that you dumb motherfucking club owners and you tv dumb fucking cunts we just get while you're giggling and on to your next mind fuck we're taking that joke and breaking it down and getting on stage and getting better these fucking people david tell nobody goes to see david tell he's
Starting point is 02:31:02 funniest as he's ever been because that's all all we do, unless we're fucking cunts and go away, but we don't go away. We don't go away. We're worse than fucking roaches. You know how proud I was last night for Margaret Cho? Do you have any fucking idea dressed up there with a hat on and white fucking thing on her face, dog, that 20 years later, she probably thought she was done? What do you think when they cancel your show
Starting point is 02:31:24 after three seasons? What the fuck do you think when they cancel your show after three seasons? What the fuck do you think? You're done. Who's gonna hire me? Look at that bitch. She didn't quit. And that's what these comedy club owners,
Starting point is 02:31:33 and that's what all these guys that have an opinion on comics always remember. You fucking go away, you worthless fucking faggots. You go away. You go away. We keep going. How long did Burns do comedy with? To put a fucking cigar in his mouth.
Starting point is 02:31:48 These motherfuckers don't know nothing about nothing. They don't know nothing about nothing. That's why now every morning I wake up and I go, somebody's sucking my dick today. Someone, one of these TV guys is going to hear my name. Last week they had to drive by the Melrose Improv and see my name there all week and go, that fucking coke, that fat motherfucker did it.
Starting point is 02:32:07 I didn't do anything. I just stayed here. Well, you kept working. I kept working. I didn't give up. But everybody doesn't keep working, right? Some people get tired. I never gave a fuck about none of those cunts
Starting point is 02:32:17 with their threats that you're not going to... I don't give a fuck, dog. I'm going to get strong, and once I got off the blow, now they really got to suck my asshole. Now it's two live crew. Now they They gotta suck my dick and your asshole, too Well, you know, oh, you know, you're killing me fuck this don't crackling I don't know how you can breathe like that I know it reminds me of your old nose or when you before you had your operation my old nose. Yeah
Starting point is 02:32:45 Or it was carved out. I was very nasally. Just throw it on the ground there? No, there's a garbage can. I don't know what you really think I am. Fuck it, there's a garbage can. Yeah, my old nose was useless. Joey, maybe you should get your nose carved out.
Starting point is 02:32:58 Have you had it? Does your septum work? I don't know. I don't know what the fuck. Can you usually breathe out of your nose? Once I get out of my... I got to bring spray with me to jujitsu. You got to bring what?
Starting point is 02:33:08 Spray with me to jujitsu. Really? Always? Once I go into closed guard, I got to tap out and go spray my nose. Steroids? Something about leverage with me or something. Then once I clean it out, it's good. Ever since I had an ear infection a couple years ago, I went swimming, I had an ear infection.
Starting point is 02:33:23 Then I went in and I flew. I got fucked up, and I went to the doctor, and he stuck a fucking probe in my nose. My nose has been all fucked up. And they sent me their sprays, but their sprays suck. I live on fucking Afrin. You get addicted to that stuff, too. The real issue with those sprays is the inside of your nose
Starting point is 02:33:42 gets addicted to that spray and won't open up unless you have it. It's very common. People get, and when your body's responding and wants that shit, it swells up. It makes it worse. It's terrible. Does your nose ever rage? Rage out?
Starting point is 02:33:57 What's that mean? Rage against the dying of the light. Oh, it's not that kind of steroid, Celia. Well, they gave me, I have steroids at the house and I'm supposed to spray two times a day. It's a fucking shame. Addicted to nose spray. It's a shame. But...
Starting point is 02:34:10 I'm writing addicted to nose spray here, and yeah. Nasal spray addiction, is it real? Mayo Clinic. Yeah. Does cocaine close it right... or clean it right out, though? Like, if you do a bump, will that... will you be able to breathe immediately? Oh, my God, cocaine's the best fucking...
Starting point is 02:34:23 The spray they gave me now, the doctor gave me now, the doctor gave me the prescription, if I hit my nose two times, for like five minutes, I go into confusion because it feels like that. It has that thing to it.
Starting point is 02:34:37 What they're saying is it's not a true addiction because a true addiction, what happens is, like, you get sick if you don't have it. True addiction is a compulsive physiological need for and use of a habit-forming substance known to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful. What the nasal spray happens is you put that stuff in, and after a few days of using it, your nose may become less responsive to the effects of the medication.
Starting point is 02:35:04 As a result, you need to use more and more of the medication to control congestion or your congestion may worsen if you stop using the medication. That happens to people. Apparently that happens to people with Xanax too. Like they say there's like some sort of a rubber band effect of Xanax. Like if you, you know, Xanax calms your anxiety, but when you start getting off of it, like your anxiety like heightens and worsens to a place where it probably wouldn't even you start getting off of it, like, your anxiety, like, heightens and worsens to a place where it probably wouldn't even be if you were on it, if you weren't on it in the first place. And I think that's what happens with these sprays, too.
Starting point is 02:35:33 They get you coming and going, Joey Diaz. They get you coming and going, these fucks. Spraying shit up your nose. If you get your nose carved out, though, you know, if you ever want to go and do it, my guy retired. My guy, Feinberg in Encino, he was the best. He had, like, he was so fucking, he was so patient and meticulous when he would talk to him and take notes with him. But he would talk about what people did wrong and what people did right and here's the common errors and here's where they fuck up.
Starting point is 02:36:00 And, you know, he had been doing it for fucking years. He was, like, in his 60s when he did my operation. But he made my nose whiter. Like, if I look at photos of my nose before the operation and after, my nose was all sucked in, and I just didn't talk as well. I couldn't breathe out of my nose very well.
Starting point is 02:36:17 My voice sounded different. And he stuck these fucking plastic things in there and cut everything out, cut the turbinates out, removed chunks of meat i used to take the i thought i took photos of it and i put some of them online remember the video of me blowing my nose with the water pick i have pho i had photos of the boogers that i would blow out these bloody giant hunks they were thumbs i would blow i showed it to tom segura once in the airport he almost threw up i go look at dude. It just came out of my nose.
Starting point is 02:36:45 He went, like, he ran away. But that guy cleaned my nose out. I have two Holland Tunnels, man. I'm just like. Before that, how was your jiu-jitsu breathing? Terrible. My cardio got 20% better. I said, Dave at Jiu-Jitsu, Regan's guy, he goes, I think with you, it's a deviated septum, my friend.
Starting point is 02:37:02 Oh, I guarantee you that's an issue. He goes, why don't you do it? He goes, I guarantee you'll lose weight because more air goes in there. Well, that's what Vandalee Silva, when Vandalee Silva had his nose fixed, he had all that facial surgery, they took a piece out of his rib and reconstructed his nose and made his nose bigger. Like, if you look at Vandalee's nose, it's way bigger than it was before
Starting point is 02:37:18 because he had a big chunk in there to open up his nose. Like, Vandalee ain't trying to look better. He's trying to fuck you up. Like, when he got his nose fixed Like, Vanderlei ain't trying to look better. He's trying to fuck you up. Like, when he got his nose fixed, it wasn't that he wanted to look cute, but his nose was completely smashed in and flattened. There was, like, no cartilage at all. It was just smashed and flattened.
Starting point is 02:37:35 And if you look at, like, what his face looked like when he started fighting in, like, the late 90s, as opposed to what he looked like in the early 2000s, like, his nose was just a pancake. And so he had it fixed and stuck way the fuck out. Like, way bigger than it was before. And all just so he could breathe better and smash your fucking face.
Starting point is 02:37:55 How funny is that? Why Van de Leys silver? It's funny as shit, man. Let me tell you something. Right now, they should just call Van de Leys. Go Van de Leys. Truce. Just truce.
Starting point is 02:38:02 What, the UFC? They should just call him a truce. You can't. It's the Nevada State Athletic Commission. What we're going to do is this. We don't want you to come back. During UFC tonight, we're going to tape you every week just doing a segment. That's it.
Starting point is 02:38:14 Because now... Just talk about stuff? Because now he has a remark for everything that happens. So he stuck up for Jon Jones last week. Right. You know, he stucks up for everybody, and it's always at the end. Dana's at the end of a punching bag or the UFC. Right. You know, like stucks out for everybody, and it's always at the end. Dana's at the end of a punching bag or the UFC, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:38:27 Right. You know, like, Dana, what do you think of John Jones? Like, they just go to Van Lee, he's, like, shooting Decker. And some guy's rubbing his back and shit. And some lady's shooting him in the arm, and they're like, Van Lee,
Starting point is 02:38:39 what do you think of John Jones? Hey, I give him my heart. He had a problem. It's the UFC! And that's it, because it always ends with the UFC. The UFC did it. Nobody else did it, Van. Very good.
Starting point is 02:38:52 Good train. Good hard train. Very, very good. Dana White, thank you for Dana White. Thank you for help. Thank you for UFC. Yeah, that guy, he fucked up, man. You can't run from a drug test.
Starting point is 02:39:04 And then he ran from a drug test and then was talking about how the UFC doesn't pay its athletes and all this stuff. And then the UFC, okay, you made $9.7 million fighting for us. Here's your record. The UFC put his record out. Like, here's your record. Here's how much money we paid you. You made $9.7 million. I don't know what you think a lot of money is, but a lot of people think $9 million is a lot of money.
Starting point is 02:39:25 Two years or something, right? Well, several years. Probably five years he was fighting. But the point is, five years he only fought six times. That was the other thing. Like they're saying we work you so hard, you're fighting once a year, essentially. But not only that, on top of that,
Starting point is 02:39:40 like Vanderlei didn't have a winning record. Like Vanderlei got beat by Chris Lieben. Vanderlei got beat by Rris lieben vanderley got beat by uh rampage jackson knocked him out like he got beat by a lot of guys he's a great fighter and a fan favorite and personally like my all-time favorite guy to watch i think i think if i go back to like the pride days i love the pride days for two guys especially well. Minotauro in his prime. Four. Cro Cop in his prime. Fedor, for sure. Fedor was the motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:40:09 But Vanderlei was a destroyer. He was a destroyer. He was so aggressive and psychotic. And you would watch a Vanderlei fight, you always knew you were going to see some fucking crazy shit. You know, that's when they had stomps and soccer kicks. And he's stomping dudes in the head, holding onto the rope, stomping Tamora in the face when he's down.
Starting point is 02:40:30 I mean, Vanderlei was amazing, man. His fights were awesome to watch. But you, you know, that hard, hard career and then comes over to the UFC and now he's got, like, really strict drug testing and all this other shit. And so when he took off from that drug test, man, I mean, that was just a colossal fuck up.
Starting point is 02:40:49 You're better off testing positive. You test positive, they ban you for nine months. That's it. They fine you. They ban you for nine months. They tell you you can't fight that guy and, you know, you have to go through a suspension. But when you take off, they had to send a message.
Starting point is 02:41:03 They're like, this is for life. Like you can never fight again. I personally think that's too much, but the fear of it and the fact that he's going to be out for who knows how many years while he fights it. And if he wins, a lot of people think he will win in court. The Nevada State Athletic Commission doesn't have the jurisdiction to test him against his will, you know, in between contests because he wasn't licensed for them. Like in preparation for licensing, the idea of random drug testing, a lot of people have jurisdiction to test him against his will you know in between contests because he wasn't licensed for them like in preparation for licensing the idea of random drug testing a lot of people have issues with that including like vandalee's attorney but the bottom line is they're going to make you go to court you're going to have to do battle and even if you win they'll let you fight again you
Starting point is 02:41:38 still wasted all those years of your life and no one's going to run from a drug test again because they're going to know that the drug test, like running for it is way worse for you than taking it and failing it. That's the message they're trying to send. They're trying to clean up the sport. There's only one way. You got to take your test. And if you fail, well, you have to be punished.
Starting point is 02:41:55 It's that simple. Otherwise, you're not playing by the rules. If you're not playing by the rules, you can't fight for us. You can't just run away. You know, I don't agree with the suspension. I think a lifetime suspension is ridiculous, especially since, look, Vandele is not going to fucking, he's not going to become a composer. He's not going to, I mean, you're taking away the guy's
Starting point is 02:42:13 livelihood. I mean, he can teach and he can train guys, I guess, but Vandele still has fight in him. He still wants to fight. He had some good fights lined up. That Chael Sonnen fight would have made him a fuckload of money. That Chael Sonnen fight, I don't know, like, what they were going to pay him for that, but how much that fight would be worth, especially if he could beat Chael Sonnen and do it in Brazil, that would be gigantic. But he fucked up too, man. When he was on that show, he got embarrassed. Like, Brazil was upset at him.
Starting point is 02:42:41 There was a lot of people in Brazil that were upset at his performance and behavior on the show where he attacked Chael Sonnen. A lot of people thought he made them look bad, and Chael Sonnen took him down real easy on the show. You know, Vanderlei took a swing at Chael, and Chael ducked and took him down. It's like, come on, are we seeing what's gonna happen on the show? And you're making us look like thugs.
Starting point is 02:42:59 You're starting a fight in the middle of a fucking television broadcast. Talk all the shit you want, but be there when the actual fight goes down. So both the guys tested positive for shit. It wasn't just, I mean, Vanderlei might not have tested positive, but essentially did. And Shale Sonnen, he was positive for everything. Everything that existed. Everything other than testosterone he was on.
Starting point is 02:43:20 He was on all these different testosterone boosters and EPO. It's the Lance Armstrong shit to make more oxygen in your blood. You know, they have to clean up the sport. It's unfortunate that Vanderlei has to go out like that because the guy was, you know. So he can't fight even in Atlantic City, like in the backyard? Nowhere. He can't fight anywhere. Not only can he not fight anywhere, Bellator was going to hire him to do promotional shit for them.
Starting point is 02:43:44 And the UFC is like, you're under contract with us. fighting where bellator was going to hire him to do promotional for them and the ufc's like you're under contract with us like not only can you not work for you know us fighting but we won't let you work for the the competition in any sort of a promotional way but that was also because vanderley talked a lot of you know he was talking a lot of about the ufc and who the knows man it's sad i hope he i hope it all gets cleared up i think the guy should You know, he was talking a lot of shit about the UFC. Who the fuck knows, man? It's sad. I hope it all gets cleared up. I think the guy should have got suspended for a while,
Starting point is 02:44:10 but I don't know what the number is. I ran from a drug test once. Did you? The feds came right to my house. I wouldn't open the fucking door. I wasn't even hot. I was high. Fuck being hot.
Starting point is 02:44:21 Fuck last night or two nights ago. I was fucking high. On weed or on coke? Everything. I sent my wife somewhere. Where the fuck did I go? My friends came out. I was on probation.
Starting point is 02:44:33 And I did something. I told my wife, me and my buddies were going to Aspen. So she left that afternoon to her parents or something with the baby. And I fucking stayed at the house. Blasting. And they called me. They go, when are you leaving? I go, I'm already at the fucking, you know,
Starting point is 02:44:47 I'm going right now. The car's coming. We're leaving. And they go, okay, we thought you said 5 o'clock. No, no, no, 1 o'clock. I'm leaving right now. I got to go. And I hung up.
Starting point is 02:44:55 About 10 minutes later, the guy knocked on the fucking door. We were talking in the kitchen. We had to hide. I had to go upstairs. And he kept knocking. I think I could hear somebody in there. I can't hear nothing. Are they allowed to, they're I had to go upstairs. They kept knocking. I think I could hear somebody in there. I can't hear nothing. Are they allowed to...
Starting point is 02:45:07 They're not allowed to break in. They can't break in for a drug test. No, they just come to your house. But if he would have knocked and I said I'm not giving him a drug test, he would have came back with a sheriff. Oh, right, right, right. They call the sheriff.
Starting point is 02:45:22 Drug tests. Open the fucking door, Doug. You know what's the most fucked up? Is drug tests for companies where they test you for weed and it's not even like while you're on the job. Like UPS, something along those lines. They'll test you to make sure you're not doing drugs while you work for them. As if someone can tell you what to do with your time.
Starting point is 02:45:43 Like when you leave like you could start drinking at monday at five o'clock you could ask everybody at work hey you guys want to go do drugs let's go down to the bar and do liquid drugs and everybody's like yeah we're gonna go meet joey for a couple liquid drugs you know and everybody's fine with that because it's all alcohol it's all legal and but if you said hey you know you guys want to smoke some joints after this is over? Everybody would be like, what the fuck, man? You're going to get fired from UPS. They're going to drug test you.
Starting point is 02:46:10 You're fucked. And they will. They could. They could hit you with a random drug test. And they could fire you. And you could get drunk as fuck from 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. Sunday night. Crash. Wake up.
Starting point is 02:46:24 Head pounding. Driving to work, hungover as fuck, drinking Pedialyte and Gatorade and water, and you're fine. Nobody can say a word. They'll drug test you. You'll pass a flying collar. As long as you're not actively drunk on the job, you're fine. That's some goofy shit. A kid hit me up from Boulder. He went to get a job at Fish and Hon.
Starting point is 02:46:45 They take your fucking hair now, Jack. Don't. God of the piss. They take your hair. Hair. That should be illegal. That's an invasion of privacy. Vegas, too.
Starting point is 02:46:54 Vegas, too. Those casinos. Hair. Come on. Give us the hair. So you can't smoke weed? Can't do nothing, dog. Nothing.
Starting point is 02:47:00 What if you have a medical prescription? There's a lot of places that don't even give a fuck. Even if you have a medical prescription. Ask Nick Diaz. Ask Nick Diaz. They don't give a fuck about a medical prescription. There's a lot of places that don't even give a fuck. Even if you have a medical prescription. Ask Nick Diaz. They don't give a fuck about a medical prescription. They don't give a fuck about nothing. I was thinking the same thing.
Starting point is 02:47:14 I was thinking about, let's say, a guy that's in a California prison. Not getting the right medication for whatever his thing is. Eventually that's going to happen. Some guy in prison is going to raise his hand and get an attorney. I don't know what he's going to win, but you lose your rights when you're a felon. You lose your rights to what? You lose your rights, but I don't think you lose your rights to proper medical attention. So if you get diagnosed with ADHD or something like that, the doctor says cannabis is the best medication.
Starting point is 02:47:42 What do you think? And it's a state law. It's a state law. This is a federal. The federal law is the real medication. What do you think? And it's a state law. It's a state law. This is a federal. The federal law is the real issue. The federal. But somebody in California is going to eventually go, I'm not getting the right medication in prison because they don't.
Starting point is 02:47:53 We're almost out of time, so I got to ask you about this, because this just came up. What, like, the whole Jon Jones thing, you know, knowing your past and your past experiences with coke, what did you think about that when that all went down? I had heard rumors. I'm not gonna lie to you. I just didn't say nothing to you,
Starting point is 02:48:09 because I didn't want you, you know, drilling me. That night we were in Vegas and we ate the mushrooms, and we came back and Jon Jones was at the dinner table. I told Dara when Jon Jones got up, there's rumors he's doing blow from here in L.A. Two people told me. You know me, I don't care. I never repeat it.
Starting point is 02:48:29 I'm not that type of person. I just... But it didn't surprise me. I'm not mad enough. It breaks my heart. People are sitting there that don't do blow and are wondering how can a champion risk his family and everything. Cocaine has no nothing.
Starting point is 02:48:44 I had a baby inside the room with my wife in there. wondering how can a champion risk his family and everything. Cocaine has no nothing. I had a baby inside the room with my wife in there. I'm on federal probation, and I'm snorting blow outside. I'm hiding the beers in the snow. I would let the dog out. That's what I would do. She'd be in the room reading. What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:48:58 I'm letting the dog out. That dog was the only dog that went out every 15 fucking minutes. He'd go out. I'd open the can of beer, crack it, drink it, down it, put it back in the snow, and I'd do two lines and go back in the house. That's hilarious. Knowing that they were going to throw me in jail.
Starting point is 02:49:12 Knowing. Knowing they were going to throw me in jail. If they pissed at us. If I pissed at us. Knowing. I would drink vinegar. I told this story out here before. What I went through that year in the halfway house, drinking vinegar and putting pool cleaner on my dick and, you know, drinking cranberry juice and vinegar and Gatorade
Starting point is 02:49:28 and just letting it go. When you're addicted like that, nothing means anything. You know. Here's a question. Here's a question. Is it possible that a guy could just enjoy a little coke every now and then? Yeah. You'd say yes.
Starting point is 02:49:40 Yeah. But you don't have an addiction thing. You've done coke before. You've never been addicted. But he's found himself in dark places. If not, he'd do it every night. He knows how scary it is. I can see where... If not, he'd do it every night.
Starting point is 02:49:51 Yeah, I can see where for certain people... Once you get scared with it... Yeah. Then you respect it. But don't you get scared with alcohol, too? Like, if you get really drunk and fucked up... I've been really drunk and fucked up before. I was like, wow, you could die from this.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Yes. I've thrown up in garbage cans. I mean, I've been really drunk and fucked up before it was like wow you could die from this you know i've thrown up in garbage cans i mean i've been hammered before where i think i wonder like isn't that just as destructive as cocaine no because you're not spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars every night on alcohol usually you know if you usually drink a bottle of jack and you puke where cocaine you could be up till 10 in the morning still buying it, you know, from the night before. Oh, because you keep going. You keep on going. Because it's energy.
Starting point is 02:50:29 It's pretty much just like, hey, I'm awake. I feel great. I want to get shit done. I want to... So that's the issue, is that you keep going. Yeah. So like a guy like Jon Jones who has a lot of money, like the money's not an issue for him,
Starting point is 02:50:41 but the keeping going is an issue. Keeping going and bitches, man, because bitches love cocaine. Where was he going? I feel very bad for Greg Jackson in this camp because somebody had to know that. Yeah, well, people probably knew, but they also knew he's the baddest motherfucker in fighting right now. Nobody just goes and buys a package and does it by themselves. He's got to be doing it with somebody.
Starting point is 02:51:04 My heart goes out to him. But do you think he could be fine with it? I mean, Brian, do you think he could be fine with it? Do you think that if you're a disciplined guy, you know, because you haven't had the problem that maybe Joey's had. You know, you've never been, like, full-on addicted, like, for long periods of time. No, no. So do you think that a guy like him who's an athlete, who's a strong-minded dude,
Starting point is 02:51:23 is very disciplined? I mean, Jon Jones, when he's training, like when he trained for this fight for Daniel Cormier, he was fucking disciplined. The word on the street, the word from Albuquerque was this fucking guy's training hard twice a day, doing everything he can to beat this motherfucker. Well, he got popped December 4th,
Starting point is 02:51:38 so obviously he wasn't training that hard. He got popped four weeks before the fight. That's true. That's a good point. So he wasn't training that hard. He was still doing the cocaine, which is mind-boggling to a guy like me, but I understand it because I was addicted. It just depends how much he does.
Starting point is 02:51:54 I know people that just do it once a month. I had a friend that was a tremendous athlete, and one night in front of me, he whipped out a package and I almost died. And I go, what the fuck are you doing? And he goes, at the beginning of the night, I always do two bumps so I can drink with the rest of these assholes.
Starting point is 02:52:08 And I throw it away or I give it away. He could do two bumps and drink like it was no tomorrow for two or three hours, pee and then go home. Because he could drink more. It's different. Everybody has a different way of partying, different way of doing coke. Some people could do a little coke.
Starting point is 02:52:25 Yeah. But everything starts off easy in the drug world. Everything's a party. I'm happy they caught him now. I don't know what level of the addiction he was up to. Maybe he'd just done it the first time. None of us know until he tells the truth. And it's also a thing of John is so fucking good
Starting point is 02:52:41 that maybe while he's doing it and he's still winning, he's still beating guys, he's so good, he can do coke four weeks out. He could have done coke three days before, dog. Lawrence Taylor was fucking you know, Friday night in New Jersey you're playing Sunday? Really? What do you think, Lawrence Taylor went home and drank Gatorade?
Starting point is 02:53:00 Well, how bad does it fuck you up if he did do it on Friday night? It fucks you up, baby. It fucks up your heart, your breathing. It fucks up a lot of things. But once you get back in there, you're fucking back in there. I know as a comedian, if I did it two nights in a row, it affected me as a comic. I couldn't really control my words.
Starting point is 02:53:18 I couldn't control a lot of things. And I'm very good with a lot of things in my system, the THC and edibles. Once I did Coke two days, you can tell there's a conflict. You're talking about raging two days all night long, all morning long now. A gram and a half till 4 in the morning. I was, you know, I could do two grams in a night till 4 in the morning, go back to sleep.
Starting point is 02:53:36 I'm talking no drinking. I knew on Thursday that my... I knew that my stand-up was falling apart. With fighting, it's something different. You want to be crazy. But then again, when I sold sports information, I always did better with a hangover. Really?
Starting point is 02:53:52 I was unconscious. I worked off technique. I worked off technique. I worked off technique. I was unconscious. Everything had to be... So you didn't overthink things. I didn't overthink things. I closed them.
Starting point is 02:54:02 I stuck to the pitch. I took those beats. So maybe when you're unconscious, you're more, I'm not saying that this poor kid did it before he fought. I can't see it. Listen, right here in the room, we're men. 24 years I've been doing stand-up. I did cocaine and went on stage one time.
Starting point is 02:54:18 March 17, 1992 was my second year doing comedy. I thought I could do coke like Richard Pryor and talk. It doesn't work that way. So did Michael Richards. Yeah, Richard Pryor and talk. It doesn't work that way. So did Michael Richards. Yeah. Doesn't work that way. Doesn't work that way. You do coke and go on stage, you might kill one time.
Starting point is 02:54:31 Ask Kennison if he killed at the end. It was a nightmare. You have no emotion. You have no emotion. The cocaine cuts to your heart and the material. So all you are is, Redman, give me your jokes. Right. I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:54:43 Your timing's off. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. are is red band give me your jokes right i hear what you're saying yeah when i say a joke man my leg goes on the i've seen guys that are coped up on stage too and there are they are very robotic robotic it's over you're just you're working off technique and with stand-up you can't work off technique yeah with jujitsu and me punching yeah you know i can grab that arm and underhook with stand up. There's no technique. The technique is my emotion The technique is my pain. I have to feel that I feel that energy Once I have the bridges broken Once I do blow
Starting point is 02:55:16 Once I do blow my brother the bridge breaks. There's no disconnect. Yeah, I can still yell the jokes at you Hey, what do you get when the chicken crust is, you know what I'm saying? But there's nothing there. So I don't see it. I just hope he gets better, you know? I hope that it was just something he was doing every couple weeks just to burn some energy. It's amazing that he could party like that
Starting point is 02:55:40 and still kick everybody's ass. But we don't know what he did. We don't know how he partied. Well, we know he was doing coke four. We don't know how he partied. But we know he was doing coke four weeks out. Yeah, but he could have just been with a girl. Yeah, we could have done a blast. Listen, you're with a girl.
Starting point is 02:55:54 She got a tremendous piece of pussy, a fucking diamond thing stuck in her belly button. Her ass don't smell like flowers. You know what? Maybe you didn't do coke. Maybe she put a coke rock in her pussy. You licked it. Mmm.
Starting point is 02:56:06 You know, maybe you touched it. There's so many fucking things. But if I came to you and said, Joe Rogan, I didn't do blow. I just put it on the girl's belly button. Joey, Jesus, I've known you 20 years. You're not going to come at me with that one. Well, it was only metabolites that it tested for. So somewhere between two and four days before that.
Starting point is 02:56:23 Well, it was a great test. Because usually the cocaine's gone 72 hours. This test got you to about eight or nine days. Alright, we're running out of time. No worries, bro. I love you. We did our three. When can people see you again? Buffalo, Helium, next week. Oh, shit. And then the Funny Bone in Columbus Super Bowl weekend.
Starting point is 02:56:40 All of it at joeydiaz.com? All of it at joeydiaz.net. Dot net. joeydiaz.net. I love you guys joeydiez.net. Dot net. joeydiez.net. Love you, too, man. January 30th, I'm at the Mirage with Ian Edwards and Tony Hinchcliffe. That's January 30th in Vegas, Mirage. Everything else is sold out. Boston this weekend, next weekend rather, next Saturday night, sold out at that laugh comedy.
Starting point is 02:57:03 I'll be back. I'm going to come back in the spring probably, and I'll do the Wilbur theater for a couple nights. I'm sorry everything sold out so quick and there's only two shows and people didn't get a chance to get tickets. But I'll be back. I didn't forget where I came
Starting point is 02:57:11 from. I will be back. And helium in Portland, that shit's all sold out too. So sorry. Naughty show Wednesday, Joe. Yeah, naughty show Wednesday. We're going to be at the comedy
Starting point is 02:57:22 store, 9 p.m. in the main room. And it's up to you. I'm going to be there., Naughty Show Wednesday. We're going to be at the Comedy Store 9 p.m. in the main room and it's a fuckload of talent. Jim Jeffries is on the show. Brian's on the show. Tripoli's on the show. Ari Shafir's on the show.
Starting point is 02:57:36 Morgan Murphy. Morgan Murphy's fucking hilarious. Arnie Rotten. Yeah. Okay, beautiful. We'll be there. So, we'll see you fucks very soon. All right, much love.
Starting point is 02:57:45 See you soon. Hey, what size kettlebell is that? Is that 24?

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