The Joe Rogan Experience - #604 - Eddie Huang & Randall Park

Episode Date: January 26, 2015

Eddie Huang is a restaurateur, food personality, sandwich hack, and former lawyer. His book "Fresh Off The Boat" is the inspiration for a new sitcom of the same name starring Randall Park airing on AB...C starting in February.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the Joe Rogan experience back for round two ladies and gentlemen we're here with Randall Park we're waiting on Eddie Wong he's stuck in traffic coming over Topanga, probably dodging hippies. You ever take that ride over Topanga? Oh, yeah. Passed by those fucking weird organic people. I passed by a guy who had a sign. A lot of hemp.
Starting point is 00:00:33 A lot of hemp. A lot of beads, a lot of dirty feet. I passed by a guy who had a sign that said, vegan gardener. Like, what does that mean? No, it wasn't vegan gardener. It was Vegan Landscaping. That's what it was. What the fuck does that even mean? I just wanted to hit him.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Just wanted to fucking have bears chase him or something. Son of a bitch. Random Park, ladies and gentlemen. What's happening, Jeff? Good to see you, brother. Good to see you, man. Thanks for coming on here. I appreciate it. You are in the middle of one of the most controversial movies in the history of the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah. You are, you play. I play Kim Jong-un. Yeah. In the interview. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Which is fucking crazy, man. I didn't think it was crazy when I signed on. I realized it was crazy, you know, in the midst of all that. Yeah. What is the verdict?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Because they say that it's not North Korea. Someone was saying it was an insider at Sony. They had it narrowed down to a woman who hacked it. I read that. I don't know. I don't know. Because after they came out with that, the FBI came out and said,
Starting point is 00:01:39 no, it is North Korea. We have a lot of information that we haven't released. But it is. Korea. We have a lot of information that we haven't released, but it is. Trust us. But then, you know, the private kind of security experts still think it's not North Korea. I would almost always go with private security experts over the FBI. Almost always. I kind of feel like most people now would also, which is kind of sad, you know, sad for the FBI. But I think most people are questioning it. Would you be willing to go over there ever?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Well, yeah, ever. You mean, like, do you mean North Korea specifically? Yes. Or do you mean? Oh, yes, very specifically. No, no, no. I would not go over there. I would never go there, especially now.
Starting point is 00:02:25 What if you went over there under the guidance of Dennis Rodman? No, no. I wouldn't go near Dennis Rodman. In America, I would not go near him. But I would not go near North Korea at all. I mean, if the regime topples, changes, and, you know, I don't know, 20 years from now, it's... What's the likelihood of that, though? I don't know. I don't know. I think it's possible, but in our lifetimes, I think. But, yeah, that's the only way I'd go. Well, we were talking about this before the podcast started, that they exchange flash drives back and
Starting point is 00:03:05 forth to each other yeah like in the a huge part of uh the underground economy there is is basically these flash drives with with south korean tv shows movies american movies you know just glimpses into the outside world that they're not supposed to see. It's a huge underground market. So I think the people there, especially the younger people, they know what's going on, you know. And if they get caught, not only are they fucked. Yeah. Well, this is what I've read and I don't know how it is now. It might be even worse now for all I know but yeah if they get caught they go to a labor camp for I don't know how long it's like a three generational thing there their kids go to a labor camp there and their parents will go like the whole family ends up being punished for their action which is wild
Starting point is 00:04:01 it's insane yeah and when we hear about, like, dictatorships like that, we always think of it like that's from, like, the 40s. Like, you know, you think of it as... It is from the 40s. That's a thing, and it just has not changed over there. Yeah. I just wonder what it would take for something like that to be toppled. And we were also talking before the podcast started about his uncle,
Starting point is 00:04:22 that his uncle apparently was planning some sort of a coup, so he killed his uncle, killed his uncle's sons. Yeah, yeah. I mean, well, one thing that happened when our movie was about to come out, there was like some expert on North Korea who said that it's important that the elite in Pyongyang see this movie, especially the people in the you know the government and it working it because it's so it's so they're on such shaky ground right now that for them to see something like this could like really help in getting something to
Starting point is 00:04:55 happen over there this is what Sony you were saying no no this was like an expert on like some professor or something on North Korea which I thought was interesting but yeah I that kind of blew my mind when he said that. Wow. That's great. Imagine if it did. Imagine if that was the catalyst. If our ridiculous comedy.
Starting point is 00:05:14 A Seth Rogen, James Franco movie was the catalyst for overthrowing the last great communist dictatorship. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Old school communist dictatorship. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. Old school communist dictatorship. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's all, you know, so much of it is this kind of deification, you know, of him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And all of this stuff, you know, our movie, but not just that, even just glimpses into the outside world. It just chips away at that, you know, and he becomes who he is you know to these people and to other people and you know in the government and and and that does not help their cause you know or the government or Kim jong-un's cause you know what is the Dennis Rodman thing what's did you research him at all when you did I did yeah I mean Kim jong-un include and his father kim jong-il when he was alive huge nba fans he was a huge basketball fan he was like a loved michael jordan and there's a story of kim jong-un supposedly he was a when he was a student
Starting point is 00:06:21 he went to like an international school in in Switzerland. And there are accounts of him from other students. He'd just sit in class all day and draw doodle pictures of Michael Jordan, like, literally in this class. So, like, he was obsessed with basketball in that era. And I think, you know, that Bulls team was running things at the time. And, like, Rodman, just to. He was a huge Rodman fan. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:47 That's so crazy. It's so crazy. To see Rodman over there hanging out with them is so surreal. Did you see that press conference? No. There's a video of a press conference where he's basically sitting there with some other players who went with him on this trip. And he's clearly drunk. And he's basically justifying his actions by going over there
Starting point is 00:07:12 and becoming friends with this guy, and he's drunk. And this is a press conference from Korea or from America? I think it was in Korea that they shot it. And you could see the players behind him, and they just looked super uncomfortable. Well, how could you not be super uncomfortable? First of all, hanging out with Dennis Rodman would make you super uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Dennis Rodman calling a press conference. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. Is it the top one? Yeah, that top one. Oh! What up?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Look who's here. Eddie Wong in the house. What's up, brother? one oh look who's here eddie wong in the house what's up i'm the worst man i'm the fucking worst dude this is la the traffic is insane you're also fucking i'm an idiot that lost my car in a fucking parking garage did you yeah man i was running up and down the wrong parking were you like a long third street like one of those garages yeah like the promenade and they got three garages that looked the same. And I was running up and down. I'm like, where the fuck is my car? It was right here.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And then they were like, you know, there's another parking garage. That's hilarious. My bad, dude. No worries, man. We kicked things off, Randall. We're good. Nice. We had to cover the interview anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We had to go over all the crazy shit that he's been going through. Yeah, yeah. The artist formerly known as kim jong-un did you at any point in time feel like you fucked up no man you know no i i was i this is the thing i wasn't like scared for my life i'm scared for your life but this is is the thing. There were enough people like you, friends, family, people who were genuinely scared for my life that it got me thinking, like, should I be scared for my life? Well, you had secret service at the time. We had guards at the house.
Starting point is 00:08:56 What? Yeah, yeah. Sony provided us guards. For how long? It's like a couple weeks. What the fuck, Sony? At first I was like, we don't need guards. Seriously, we don't need guards.
Starting point is 00:09:07 They're like, let us just give you some guards just for peace of mind. I was like, all right, all right. And then one day they were just gone. Like a few weeks later, they were gone. And I was thinking, oh, my God, where are the guards? I need the guards. You know, like I was just so, you know, I felt so protected by them when i didn't wouldn't have otherwise you know i just got used to and then my friends being so concerned for me it just kind of
Starting point is 00:09:32 got me paranoid did anyone contact you did you get any threats or did anybody know no one on twitter like pretended to be from north korea and fucked with you no we should have done it too dude i you know i mean i would get like spam mail like i always get and i would think twice if i feel like wait a minute is this like regular spam or is this like hacking to my email destroy my life spam you know right right right and uh but i you know i didn't know i would never have i just kind of deleted it, like I always do, you know. Yeah, you're always, you know, that could be totally unrelated. I was paranoid. Yeah, yeah, most likely.
Starting point is 00:10:08 But, you know, I got paranoid. I got paranoid after a while. And then the movie came out, and like we were talking about earlier, it just all died out. The dust settled really quickly. It was like crazy. It was like the biggest news. And then all of a sudden, I don't know. It seems like things just die quick today.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. Because there's so much new scandal coming down every day. There's always something new, nutty dick pics, fucking sex scandal, something horrible happens. You know, ISIS cut somebody's head off, something. You know, there's always some new thing. Cosby, another woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, one year.
Starting point is 00:10:44 The things that used to happen in five years happen in one year now they happen in a day it's it's weird yeah it's kind of insane yeah things are accelerating for sure even when i travel every city i go to there's a pocket of every city that looks the same like that same arts district is in every fucking city with the same stores the same kids the same clothes and by contrast the same applebee's the same walmart the same kids, the same clothes. And by contrast, the same Applebee's, the same Walmart, the same Target. I mean, if you're in a Target anywhere in America, you feel like you're in the same spot. You're in the same spot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:13 How the fuck did you go from being a chef to being on a sitcom? What the hell's going on, man? How did you run this, man? Dude, I guess we kind of ran the table. Yeah. We fucking definitely, we hit for the cycle the last ted you were a ted talk yeah i mean yeah that's when i met you you know the deal for this show was cut the day i met you that's hilarious yeah you were part of this joe that's
Starting point is 00:11:36 you part of this i feel responsible you're part of asian history you are yeah thank you thank you joe so how did it go down well what happened what happened was I was at TED, and then there was this producer, Melvin Mar, who my boy Jay gave the book to. So he read the book, and he was looking at these stats and demographics. They send those things in the studio like, pay attention to the Asian market. They got fucking money now. You know what I mean? People are buying fucking soy products. money now you know I mean like people are buying fucking soy products so he got one of those things that was a directive or some study saying look
Starting point is 00:12:08 there's a lot of Asian viewers you know we should make some content for this the book landed on his table within like the similar amount of time I was in Long Beach I was doing the show at you and he met me that night Wow that's incredible that that's incredible and you got in trouble for doing the show, right? Because you left Ted and they got pissed at you. Yeah, they were mad because I did the number one podcast in the world, Joe Rogan. And then I also did DVD Asa. They weren't too happy about that. And I went to take the meeting with Melvin.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And they were like, you should be here politicking with these Ted people, sucking this Scientology dick. Wait, did they say did they did they did they have like i was like no no no scientology deals was it that did they have like in a like a specific thing planned for you or they just wanted you to hang out no i had already given my talk and then it was like dude we we looked like slow children they had us with signs and like neck lanyards with your photo and like speaker. And then these people would be like donor.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And we were supposed to like show more love to the donors. Oh, one of those. And I was just like, man. Kiss the rings. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, this is weird. It was the beginning of my understanding, my journey of trying to understand what's
Starting point is 00:13:20 where Ted has gone. Yeah. Like where it started, what it started out as and what it is now. And you were very illumin gone. Yeah. Like, what it started out as and what it is now. And you were very illuminating. Yeah, it was cool because after me and Sarah Silverman kind of shit on it, there's been lots of people
Starting point is 00:13:31 that come out being like, yo, they fucked with my speech. They told me to say this. They took this down. Did you find that during your speech where they, like, putting their hands in it? Yeah, they definitely tried to edit it.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I mean, it's everywhere. The last few years i've started to realize everywhere you go besides like pretty much vice i guess is they they just they part they try to put their dick in your ear everywhere you go man yeah hey come here kid you want to get rich dude yeah yeah there's only one way suck that donor dick yeah well they would make you stay with somebody else too they made you stay in a room yeah it was weird we were like adults and they had his rooming and I was room with this other guy who was super nervous about his speech and I was just like this is
Starting point is 00:14:15 bugged you gave me a box of kind bars and I'm supposed to be cool with this and then they get mad when you go off to do other shit it's just a very very bizarre very bizarre yeah you should sign up to be a TED speaker one year just so you could like do the expose not interested too much as it is highly overexposed so fresh off the boat when does this start Aaron February 4th is this CBS ABC ABC beautiful February 4th and is everything in the can. ABC, beautiful. February 4th. And is everything in the can already? You guys done? Are you filming right now?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah, we're done. We're done. Done shooting. How many episodes did you guys do? 13. 13, yeah. So they decided to film 13 and then air. They did a pilot. They liked it.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And then they just shot 13. Order 12 more, yeah. That's nice. That's nice. If they pick up what they call the back nine and give you a full order of 22, when do you know about all that? I think May. And we find out in May.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah. I don't know if we're going to do the back. I think it'll be just next season. Just the second season. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's cool. So what's that experience been like?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Man, Randall, you go first. I've been talking about it too much. Randall goes first. Well, I mean, also the eldest Asian goes first. That's right. Respect. That's right. Respect. That's right. You know, for me, it was fun.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It was, you know, there was a lot of challenges. I was, you know, I've been kind of the middleman, I feel like, in a lot of the situations. So, like, you know, talking to the producers producers talking to the other actors talking to eddie and like you know trying to kind of navigate everything and and hearing out their issues and their problems and and so i don't know that that i think with any tv show they're always like politics and issues and and but when you have one that's specifically based on a memoir of a real-life person, you know, there's a lot of kind of bumps in the road and a lot of things to work out. And we definitely had those issues.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But with that being said, I mean, I had a great time. The cast has been great. You know, the crew. I had fun. I had fun. And I think it's like a, it's a good show, you know. And it's a groundbreaking show, like, in terms of just Asians on TV. Well, Margaret Cho was the first.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah. She had that show, All-American Girl. That was 20 years ago. Yeah. I was around back then. I remember it. I was friends with Margaret. And the whole, when it went down, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:16:43 They were telling me, you got to lose weight. You got to do this. You got to dress just different you can't have a fat Asian on TV Fuck they mean like her stories about her pretty fucking crazy is bad. They had like an Asian Consultant or something on that show basically telling them how to be Asian. Yeah I mean we had those weird-ass accent coach to those two though. It was super cool Yeah, cool, dude Yeah But there's a dude that was literally like Randall your accent like checking on the accent
Starting point is 00:17:08 and shit yeah and yeah that's it that I super cool guy friend of mine even but but it was like it it definitely got me in my head for that pilot so after once we got into the series I was like now I'm gonna learn this I'm gonna learn this what was what were the accent were you trying to learn this. I'm going to learn this on my own. What was the accent? Were you trying to learn a Chinese accent? It was supposed to be a Mandarin Taiwanese accent. But I feel like there isn't one. There isn't one, exactly. Everyone speaks in their own fucked up way.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And that's what I learned. That's what I learned. Because I went to so many people to get coaching, to get specifically experts or actors who could really do it because there were no dialect coaches who could do it. But they all had different approaches. And I was like, there is not one way to do an accent. Yeah. It's basically a cottage industry for Asian people to just G off and be like, oh, no, no, I know this accent thing. Let me tell you. Yeah. It's fly lice. R's or L's. R's or L's.
Starting point is 00:18:05 R's or L's. They're like, no. No. It's not always. So they're just running the game and the white people are like, oh, okay, okay. He's really cheap. He understands. Yeah. We have an Asian accent consultant.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah. They hired this guy. He's like an actor. He's an actor. He's an actor. And he was like, I got hired to consult on the accent because I'm Taiwanese. And it was just like, yo, this is so bunk. But what do they try to do with you?
Starting point is 00:18:27 They try to fuck with your accent? Because you have a New York accent. No, no, no. I just do voiceover. He narrates. I just do voiceover and give people a hard time. That's pretty much my job on the show. So you don't act on the show?
Starting point is 00:18:37 No, I'm just, I'm the voice. Oh. Yeah. So does someone play you? Yeah, there's a 12-year-old kid who's a really cool kid. Oh, wow. So it's sort of like that Chris Rock show. Everybody hates Chris? Yeah, there's a 12-year-old kid who's a really cool kid. Oh, wow. So it's sort of like that Chris Rock show. Everybody hates Chris?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah. Exactly. That's interesting. See, I was under the impression that you were acting in it. I was confused. He is, but like voice. Voice acting. And who do you play?
Starting point is 00:18:58 I play the dad. You play his dad? Yeah. That's a weird relationship. Just weird. That's a weird relationship. It's funny because my mom on the show is the same age as me now oh but super cool like you know the actors on the show were incredible
Starting point is 00:19:11 like the casting on the show i think is my favorite part of it yeah i'm not just saying it because homie's here like we really get along we hang out we eat jamaican beef patties that's what we are you worried that that 12 year old kid is going to be like that two and a half men kid, just fucking get crazy? Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. He already gets crazy, but I love the kid.
Starting point is 00:19:30 He's a great kid. He's amazing, but he's a real kid. He's not like an actor. He didn't have hardly any experience going in, and that's part of the reason why we loved him so much. He was just raw. He's just a Brooklyn Chinese kid that went to a cold acting, casting, and then we saw his tape.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And I remember watching. Did you get to see his audition? I mean, I was there for some of the early ones, but I didn't see the original one. Dude, his audition is so funny. They're, like, telling him to say things, and he's swinging at the camera with his arm. He's looking in the wrong direction.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He just doesn't give a fuck. And I saw the tape. I was like, we have to cast this kid well just personality just personality he couldn't be bothered could not be bothered and even when we i mean randall may hate us at times because the kid will be bouncing off the walls like we basically just captured this real kid on camera like all right cool start stop yeah wow but the other kids, they were all polished actors with clean line reads and emoting right at the right word. And it just didn't feel like.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah. When a show comes around that's very specifically Asian and it's hiring all these Asian people, there's a tremendous amount of attention from the Asian community. Everybody gets very excited. I have Asian friends that were actors and they would get very bummed out that there's no roles for Asian.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And they would get really pissed off. And I would bring up when John Wayne played Genghis Khan. Fucking God. Boiling red and angry. Mickey Rooney. Charlie Chan. Charlie Chan was a white guy. guy yeah with the tape on the eyes yeah so now that there's like an actual asian show like what has the response been like you're
Starting point is 00:21:14 an actor i mean it's like the wire dude basically every asian person is hitting you up like yo can i be bubbles everybody want to be bubbles yeah exactly man it's it's been it's been like you know i mean overwhelming like just positivity and negativity and and you know skepticism and it's it's everything it's because it's the only one you know is there any like inter asian like anger like you are being a korean guy playing a guy who's from taiwan you know i haven't experienced it personally i'm sure it's out there i haven't experienced it personally i had my own issues with that too like i actually went to eddie like early on after i found out the show was being picked up to pilot i was like i don't think that this doesn't feel right i don't think i should be
Starting point is 00:21:57 playing this part really yeah randall's super earnest about it yeah i like wigged out about it i actually had a nervous breakdown about it a nervous break not a nervous panic attack really I had a panic attack how does that go just like I thought I was gonna die like literally like the night before I was like couldn't sleep and I had to keep moving I was like and I knew it was because of this because I was just so in my I was like I don't think I should be playing this part this is like a big moment yeah and and that's part of the reason that got me to that thought was because after the show got picked up it was already all over the internet like amongst asian people like super excited for it you know it was the great yeah the great yellow hope shit it was
Starting point is 00:22:39 just like everybody was like oh my god our dicks are all gonna get bigger on february 4th my dick is gonna be six and a half inches everybody gonna have six and a half inch dicks on february 4th so you it's fascinating though i was like oh man i don't know if i should be i don't know if i'm the one you know and it's just because of the fact that you're korean playing a guy who's chinese well yeah yeah i mean that was a big part of it. Also, I had my, you know, I had issues with the character, and we talked about it. And I had, like, I was like, man, I don't know. I just don't feel like this is the right way for me.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I think the thing was, was Randall is so earnest. And the reason, like, I've really bonded with Randall through the whole thing is there's a lot of people that will lie to you in Hollywood. There's a lot of fake motherfuckers out here. Wait a minute. What are you saying? Hold on. I can there's a lot of people that lie to you in hollywood there's a lot of fake out here wait a minute what are you saying hold on i can't be a part of the show anymore i gotta go i have a meeting but no like he would we would talk really openly honestly about the script like the things that didn't seem to like represent my pops that that weren't totally there because you know network shows They always have like a really powerful woman and a kind of a schlubby dude My dad walked around the crib in his underwear with a K
Starting point is 00:23:53 Chilling did he really yeah, okay? Yeah, he cocked it on my friend once when we were just like watching cartoons, and my dad was like ha ha and I was was like ha ha and I was like whoa his dad is a badass I mean like I met him the dude is I mean not only bad he's just like a diner he's like Eddie he's like this dynamic person you know he didn't mean it back and my friend had been asking him about it and he always wanted to see it so my dad when they just came out with it I was like yeah so so you know and i we don't see much of that that in the character of the show but you know with that being said like you know my issues were just like yeah i don't want him to be like you know always like the funny one or always the inept kind of classic sitcom dad i want him to kind of i want him to do well i want him to hard. I want to be a good example for the kids, you know, because again
Starting point is 00:24:45 We're the only Asian show. Yeah, it's important that like I don't just play that one lane I want him to be more fleshed out, you know, that is a real issue, right? If you're the only Asian show on television, you definitely don't want to be a negative stereotype You don't want to like play into all the bullshit. Yeah is already out there. Yeah the negative stereotypes Yeah, yeah, that's a tricky tricky position, huh? Is that why you felt like you were real nervous about it that was that was it I mean also like in combination with the accent, you know, if you have an accent, that's one thing hit me with some of that Hit me with some of that accent.
Starting point is 00:25:22 No, I'm not going to hit you with that. Come on, man. Give me the duck sauce. Give me that duck sauce, Randall. You're a professional. But the thing... Just say, fuck you, Joe Rogan, with that accent. I'm not going to say that. No?
Starting point is 00:25:32 All right. Okay. Just try it. No, but... Fuck you, Joe Logan. Yeah, fuck you, Joe Logan. It's Joe Logan in Chinglish. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:43 No, but yeah, exactly. It's like you got an accent. And we've just seen throughout history, Hollywood history. It's like if there's an accent, this character's one-dimensional. You know, David Cho had this fucking great post. There was one point in time we pulled his DVD ASA podcast off the air, and he put this great quote on his website about Jackie Chan. He goes, how come Jackie Chan never got to fuck or finger bang this whole thing about everyone's afraid of the yellow man everybody talks about fear of a black planet Romeo Must Die that was a huge
Starting point is 00:26:16 moment for like Asian kids yeah remember Jet Li and Aaliyah if you could have just made out with Aaliyah I swear swear, like, my sex life would have tripled. I would have done triple numbers. And then we were sitting in that theater, they don't even, like, they don't even shake hands. Like, they're like, what is that? What is that? And that's Romeo and Juliet. That was like the... What the fuck? They don't even shake hands. Except for Walking Dead. That's the only time where the Asian guy wins. Yes, but that's the thing is, like, There had to be a zombie apocalypse for an Asian dude. For an Asian dude to get some pussy, it had to be a zombie apocalypse. That dude had to be the last motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:26:53 But there's a few white dudes that want to fuck that chick on that show. She's the hottest chick on that show by far. By far. By far. And that's a big victory for the Asian culture. That was Asian. We caught one there. We caught one.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah. That was a good one. Well, there's a lot of anger and resentment in the Asian community, too, when Asian girls will exclusively date white guys. Yeah. I used to get mad, but now I'm just like, it's cool. Yeah. There's billions of us.
Starting point is 00:27:21 That is a weird thing, though, right? I mean, it's a common occurrence. When I was in college, that would like, yeah, that would definitely like get me upset, hit home. But I'm the same. Like, I'm just like, dude, it's, you know, it's fine. My thing is everybody deals with their identity in their own way. And it's like, if you're not loving someone for the right reasons, it may rear its head in three months, six months, six years. But eventually you're going to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And it's just not my job to be judge and jury with shorties and white dudes. It's kind of, you know. Shorties. That's your prerogative, man. But I used to get tight in college. Yeah. You get angry? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Tight in college. That's it. Yeah. But I was always about white chicks with big butts anyway, so, you know. Who isn't? Yeah, exactly. If they're not. Pogs is the number one drop down on Bang Bros, I think.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah, that's a perfect ass white girl if you don't know what P-A-W-G means. Yep. Yeah, there's something about that. Well, it's just such an anomaly, you know. You find a white girl with a perfect ass. We were in, Tony hinchcliffe and i were in this coffee shop the other day we met this black girl from kenya who she had an ass she turned around and we both went like that just like looked at each other like jesus is that real and
Starting point is 00:28:35 then we talked about it for like an hour afterwards like you don't ever see that on any other nationality it's only black chicks from africa i mean she had her ass was like in the middle of her back. West Indian will come up with it. Like Caribbean, West Indian, you'll get it. Right. Right now, there's a lot of chicks with fake butts out there. If you look at Instagram, sometimes there's a lot of these girls that they never showed the backside.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Then all of a sudden, like six weeks, there's a gap in photos, and then bang. You mean people here in America, that's a thing? Yeah, there's a few girls in New York that my friends... I know in Brazil, that's like... Yo, it's huge in Brazil and Colombia, but New York now, there's a lot of New York girls with fake butts. Well, so you know what's fucked up about that?
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's like, a girl can get her butt big by working out. Right. You can lift weights. Like, you can't do anything about your breasts. If you want your breasts to be larger, I don't think they have
Starting point is 00:29:28 a solution to that yet. But if you want your ass to be big, all you gotta do, you lazy bitch, just do some squats. You don't have to stick plastic in your ass.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Exactly. My ass is tight. I got to work out. Beautiful. Beautiful. I knew a dude who had chest implants. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah, he got chest implants That's weird Yeah, he was a comedian He decided, you know, he wanted to be a sitcom star And he had a chicken chest And instead of working out I mean, I think he worked out a little bit But he had pec implants
Starting point is 00:29:54 I feel like Fat Jew I think I talked to him I think he wants breast implants Who's Fat Jew? This comedian, Fat Jew He's awesome That's his name? Yeah, that's his name
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah, he sends me photos like this, dude. He sends me wild photos of turkey testicles. This is super weird stuff, man, but he's the best. You have to see this. He sent this to me for Thanksgiving, but yeah. Hmm. Okay. So it's a turkey with his balls poking out of the hole.
Starting point is 00:30:24 It's a turkey. He cut out a hole and just put his balls in the middle. That's basically a turkey with his balls poking out of the hole. It's a turkey. He cut out a hole and just put his balls in the middle. That's basically a photo of his balls. It was an acceptable way for him to send his balls to me. Exactly. Is he a guy in New York? Yeah, he's in New York. He's been a homie for a few years.
Starting point is 00:30:41 He was in this rap group, Team Facelift. Super futuristic dude you gotta have him on the show all right i'm in fat jew yeah interesting that's my man strange name yeah yeah so you guys have been filming this for how many months now since uh we ended right before christmas yeah and did it go through like I've been on the sitcom news radio from the beginning to like the one of the first episodes to the end it's like they grow and everybody sort of finds their own rhythm and people get fired and writers new writers come in do you guys have to go
Starting point is 00:31:19 through all that we didn't like that only because we didn't start airing while we were in production. I feel like those things happen when it starts airing and then the feedback comes and maybe the ratings are on the edge and then they start panicking. Oh, we got to make changes. But we were literally in a bubble. It's a gift and a curse that you're mid-season. When you're mid-season, they buy all the episodes and they're going to all air.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah. Did they do a pilot first? Yeah, the pilot's great. They did the pilot. The pilot's actually my favorite episode of the whole season. So you did a pilot and then how long before they decided to pick it up? Like a month or I don't know. So you had a little bit of a break.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, we finished it. I feel like we delivered it in March, right? And then we found out in May. Yeah, beginning of May. So like two months. Yeah, yeah two months i didn't think it was gonna get picked up not because i didn't think it was good because i nothing gets picked up nothing gets picked up number one and not no asian family sitcom gets picked up you know one ever one 20 years ago yeah it was fine i knew it would get picked up i told everybody i was like yo man see you at chase bank see you at chase bank eddie knew i was just like you know i mean i've been in the trenches as an actor for for a long time like these things don't happen you know yeah they
Starting point is 00:32:35 don't happen and then it happened i was like well they occasionally happen yeah yeah yeah yeah i feel like you you will to happen like yeah my whole life i just feel like you will shit to happen. Like, with my whole life, I just feel like, you know, you got to, like, will it and just believe it. And if you don't, then it really won't. It has to. Everything, the mojo all has to line up. Yeah. It helps.
Starting point is 00:32:53 It helps if you believe it. But there's a lot of people out there that watched The Secret and thought, I'm going to change my life. Yeah. And then nothing fucking happened. Yeah. No, I think it's essential to believe, and then there's still a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:33:06 But if you don't believe, good luck. Yeah, there's a vibration that you have to catch. You have to be on a frequency, and all these things have to align together in order for it to be successful. Yeah, and you can feel it. You can really feel the energy. We had a good energy on our show,
Starting point is 00:33:22 and I think it's because everyone, this was the biggest thing anyone, well, not you had a lot of other hits but like constance hudson the kids you know it's melvin the producer's first thing that's his own it was the biggest thing i've done and you know for everybody it was just like humbling to be there happy happy to get there yeah and then once we got there really let's break shop let's wreck shop. You know, let's do this. But you should act, man. You got such a great personality. Thanks, man. I tell him that all the time. I tell him, I'm like, I'm writing something for you.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Yeah. That's why it made sense to me that you were on a sitcom. Like, there's a lot of chefs, if you told me they were on a sitcom, I'd be like, what? Yeah. Like Emeril. Bam! Remember when Emeril had a sitcom? Emeril had a sitcom?
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, Emeril had a fucking sitcom. I think it was when Emeril had a sitcom? Emeril had a sitcom? I didn't know that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, Emeril had a fucking sitcom. I think it was called Emeril. Yeah, it was like some fucking NBC disaster. Fuck. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I mean, he's actually pretty fucking cool in person. Like, I chill with Emeril on Top Chef. Dude is, especially in New Orleans. I got to hang with him in New Orleans. Cool dude. That's his spot, right? Yeah, that's his spot. But, like, no, I definitely, I told my agent, I was i was like yo if there's any roles out there for an asian joe
Starting point is 00:34:28 pesci fucking sign me up that's what i want to be an asian joe joe pesci goodfellas or joe pesci lethal weapon oh like my cousin vinnie oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean you could totally act do you that's why when i heard that you were doing it. I was like oh wow What is fucking versatile motherfucker? Voice acting but no I got it. I got to do the acting it'll be fun I'm excited the voice acting to that I mean it's like I feel like that was a I mean that wasn't in the original that wasn't in the original It kind of came in like how can we make this better?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Hmm, and then they came up with the idea. We got to have Eddie. And that changed it. It really solidified the show and framed it in the right way. It happened in the edit. I think it was just in the edit. They were like, yo, you should fucking Kevin Arnold this thing. I was so excited.
Starting point is 00:35:24 They told me I was playing ball when Melvin called me and was like. I like how you did this. I was playing ball. I was really excited. They told me I was playing ball when Melvin called me and was like. I like how you do this. I was playing ball. Getting buckets. Yeah. Is there any way they could write you in? I mean, who would you play if you were going to be on that show? You're like cousin Eddie would be sick or cousin Alan.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I got a cousin Alan or something, but. Yeah, like a cousin. I should be the kid's cousin. Yeah, you could be like kid's cousin that's always giving them like sneaky advice. For sure. Getting them in trouble, you know, leading them astray kid's cousin. Yeah, you could be like the kid's cousin that's always giving him like sneaky advice, getting him in trouble, you know, leading him astray. Even in real life, man, the kid was telling me, he's like, yo, I like girls now. Like, word, that's great. That's great.
Starting point is 00:35:54 That's great. That's really great. You like girls. And I was like, do you have like a girlfriend or whatever? He's like, no, there's this girl I like, but I'm afraid to talk to her. And I was like, well, what are you going to do then? You should go talk to her. And he's like, no, no, no, I don't want to talk to her. And I was like, well, what are you going to do then? You should go talk to her. And he's like, no, no, no, I don't want to talk to her.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And I was like, well, what do you want to do? And he's like, I kind of want to touch her. And I was like, good, good. So I'm like, yo, when she gets out of class, just kind of bump into her boobs with your elbow. No, don't tell him that. And he's like, what? And I was like, no, yeah, you got to just kind of bump into the boobs. You can't tell him that, and you definitely can't admit that on the internet.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Because if he goes and does that now, that's like sexual assault. No, it's not. You did that in middle school. Didn't you come out of like seventh grade? I lived in a different world, my friend.
Starting point is 00:36:32 This is the world of the internet. Really? Social justice warriors. He just asked that dude to commit rape. No, no, no. In this world? No.
Starting point is 00:36:38 This is day and age. That's kind of like a... You are illegally touching a sexual organ with your elbow on purpose. It's not an accident. You're pretending it's an accident. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Do I have to apologize? We live in a dark world. I'm so sorry, boobs. We live in a dark world. I'm so sorry to all those boobs out there. Especially if the girl doesn't want him to touch her boobs. Then it's really sexual assault. Well, I mean, you know, I'm sure the girl...
Starting point is 00:36:58 He's a good kid. I'm sure she wouldn't mind it. That's not sure enough. No? No. Randall, you never, like, kind of just brushed up against the pair? Don't admit to it. Even if you did, don't say it. That's not sure enough. No? No. Randall, you never kind of just brushed up against the pair? Don't admit to it. Even if you did, don't say it.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I cannot recall. Fine, I'm the only one. I cannot recall. Fine, I'm the only one that was running my Nautica competition fleece against. People will stop beating that Cosby horse and start running towards you with sticks. Oh, man. No, man. I just got through with the interview.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I'm not on that. No, come on. It doesn't matter. There's so many people out there that are looking to be angry. They're looking to find something. They can't brush it off as something innocent or joking around. And especially when it comes to something like asking a young kid, giving him advice, how to bump into a chick's tits. Maybe I did fuck up.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You fucked up. It doesn't matter, which is what you tell them to do. Tell them to let her watch him on TV, and then she'll probably like him. Compelling. All right, I'm going to have to call Hudson tonight and be like, yo, remember that technique I told you about kind of brushing up against the boobs? New plan. New plan.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Uncle Joe wants her to watch the show first. Trust Uncle Joe. Tell him the pussy bus is coming, all right? They're loading it up right now. Once you get on TV, they're going to want to brush their tits up against you. Then it's way better. Wait for them to brush up against you. That sexual assault, nobody complains about that sexual assault.
Starting point is 00:38:14 There's not a guy alive who's ever complained about a girl brushing her tits up against him. But I remember the first time I saw up a skirt was incredible. I was in Earth Space Science class. I was in Earth Space Science. There was. I was in Earth, Space, Science. And I would... There was this one Colombian chick that was so fly.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Like, always came done up. Was the first one to be wearing heels in school. How old was she? Well, we were both 14. So, we were both 14. She might have been 15. She was wearing heels?
Starting point is 00:38:38 She was wearing heels. And I remember she had this, like, houndstooth dress on. And I was just like, yo, her legs look like fucking hams right now They look like Christmas honey baked hams in there And I could not stop looking and I remember she turned to me smiled and just opened her legs and nodded and I was like
Starting point is 00:38:57 Looked and it was just peach fuzz and bear and I was oh Life well she had no underwear on no underwear oh my god she just flashed it I was 14 and I was just like and I was like me she's like yeah whoa oh like this is for you yeah and I was I was cooked I couldn't talk to her yeah that was my nervous yeah that was my first time yeah so maybe I should have just told Hudson just keep staring be at the right place at the right yeah staring they call that I rape oh yeah yeah you can have to issue you've been reading the New Yorker no I just I like
Starting point is 00:39:35 to I like to read super progressive websites where they're just out of their fucking mind yeah it's all mostly people that no one wants to fuck and what they're trying to do is establish these parameters for what is appropriate and not appropriate. It's mostly against men. I think that's the thing, though, that doesn't work because I'm all about women's rights and ideologies and all those things. I just went and did a whole piece in Japan about why the birth rate is declining there. there and I was like championing the fact that we've asked women to go into the workplace but then not redistribute the duties of home and child rearing and child bearing and it's just like we have to redistribute the duties that are traditionally left for women because they're
Starting point is 00:40:15 working now we all got to share but then when you just have rules of like don't do this and don't do that you're not really understanding the relationship of like men women in society You're just setting weird-ass rules that make everybody upset and uncomfortable It's also like who's setting those rules like and why like one of them is about drinking like they're saying that men and women when? They're having sex in it This is a hilarious blog that I like to read occasionally and they were trying to say that if men and women if they're both If they're drinking if you're drinking and you have sex with someone it's rape that if men and women, if they're both, if they're drinking, if you're drinking and you have sex with someone, it's rape. Including if a woman is sober and the man is drunk. If the woman has sex with a drunk man, she's raping him. She's raping him.
Starting point is 00:40:51 She's raping him, which is fucking hilarious! It is hilarious. That might be my favorite position. If you're drunk, you- Me being drunk, her being sober, that is my favorite position. The language that they use is that if you're drunk, they put you in a position where you cannot consent. You're not able to consent because you're drunk. I mean...
Starting point is 00:41:13 Which is, first of all, it's rude towards women because some women have to be drunk. It's a strategy. They do it on purpose. They want to be drunk so that they can deal with the fact they're going to let some dude fuck them. A lot of dudes are annoying as shit. And women get horny.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And they're like, God, I don't want someone to fuck me, but I don't want this idiot to throw a few shots back. Yeah, we all do that. Yeah. Let's do it. You know? I can understand it if it's, like, in fraternities and sororities because the rampant rape on college campuses is insane right now. Because at that age, just nobody knows what the fuck they're doing. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But, like, adults, man, like like who's having sex without drinking seriously that's a good like without some combination of like wine xanax or weed like nobody's having sex sober people we would be japan yeah right sober people you know people who are like in the program or something alcoholics anonymous people what do they do oh they have terrible sex go jogging get a runner's high first man hold their breath hold their breath go spinning and then smash then you gotta shower then you gotta shower twice who fuck is up with that yeah and the high might sex. A runner's high doesn't last nearly as long as like an edible. It's a nice cold brew. Coffee sex.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I would get crazy locked jaw and dry mouth with coffee sex. For real. For real. If I drank coffee and then she sat on my face, there would be serious problems. Well, if you drink coffee, your cum is more likely to get a girl pregnant. Really? Yeah, the sperm is more likely to get a girl pregnant. Really? Yeah, the sperm is more active. Drink green tea.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Green tea? Drink green tea. Even the same thing. Caffeine. Oh, really? Yeah, it's caffeine. Caffeine makes your sperm more active. That's for real.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Nothing is safe these days. Nothing is fucking safe. Nothing's safe. Nothing's safe. There's nothing safe, including sex. It's not safe. So, point being, don't tell this 12 year old kid the wrong shit because as the climate becomes more and more hostile towards men it's going to get crazier
Starting point is 00:43:10 and you guys really think i thought we should ask the twitters and just don't ask twitter anything ever don't don't ask so i'm just gonna correct this and tell him just stare and tell her to watch your show just stay offline don. Don't Google your name. Keep moving. Don't exist. Just don't exist. Just keep moving. Oh, man. Well, the things that you used to get away with when you, you know, like natural boy-girl type shit,
Starting point is 00:43:34 it's like, you know, people take offense to that stuff now. Yeah, like the Annie Hall thing when he just, he goes to grab her. I don't remember Annie Hall. Oh, it's great. He's like, it's like Alvy Singer as a kid, and he goes to grab her. I don't remember Annie Hall. Oh, it's great. He's like, it's like Alvy Singer as a kid and he goes to kiss the girl and then the girl's like, even Freud talks about a latency period, Alvy.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah. I don't remember it. I saw it so long ago. It's a great movie. Woody Allen. Here's another one. Yeah. Oh, bad example.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I shouldn't put myself first. Oh, fuck. You know what I'm saying? We should just change the subject have you ever seen those photos of Woody Allen with the girl on his lap when she was a little girl when he was the dad and then the two of them together the girl who the
Starting point is 00:44:14 girl oh his wife yeah now well she was sitting on his lap when she was a little girl at a basketball game and then many years later she's sitting next to him holding his hand as his wife. It's crazy. It's like, yo. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Well, seeing it laid out like that, it's very dark. It's like this one thing, like if you hear about it, like, well, maybe he didn't spend a lot of time with her. But then you see the photo with her on his lap at a basketball game. And when you see them now, even in the garden, it's bugged. It's totally bugged out. It's amazing that he goes out with her on his lap at a basketball game. Yeah, and when you see them now, even in the garden, it's bugged. It's totally bugged out. It's amazing that he goes out with her. He's got mad balls. I mean, that guy's got crazy balls.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Do you need to be ringside or courtside that fucking bad? With your daughter-wife? No. Stay in the nosebleed. Just cuffing with your daughter-wife? Don't even go. Watch it at home. They have it on TV.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah, you got voodoo. Yeah, what the fuck, man? It just seems like it's not a good move. But I don't think people care. He got no fucks given. That dude just does not care. But I think because of that, people don't care. I mean, he just got a big deal.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I don't know if you read about it. Yeah, Amazon. An Amazon TV deal. He's doing shows for Amazon now. Yeah. It's not even a thing, you know? Well, he's doing shows for Amazon. Yeah. Not even a thing. Well, he's a really good director. He writes and directs a new movie every year.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Have you ever seen how he does everything too? He does it all with a typewriter. No way. Oh, yeah. There's a video. See if you can pull it up, Jamie. It's a fascinating video. Woody Allen explaining his writing process.
Starting point is 00:45:43 He's got a video. He's got a typewriter. and then when he does changes, when he does any sort of a change to one of his scripts, he cuts a piece of paper out and fucking tapes it down over the other place. I mean, him and Wes Anderson are definitely my favorite directors. Yeah, Woody Allen and his typewriter. It's kind of fucking weird, man. I mean, I think this is one of the ways he avoids the Internet.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Right, to stay sane. The house is always full of clarinet reeds every place. I built this when I was 16. It still works like a tank. And it's a German typewriter. And it's an Olympia portable. I've had it my whole life. It cost me $40, I think.
Starting point is 00:46:26 The guy told me it would be around long after my death. And I've typed everything that I've ever written, every script, every New Yorker piece, everything I've ever done on this typewriter. I used to have a metal piece on top covering this, which I lost 30 years ago. One advantage, obviously, to a word processor is you can electronically cut and paste. What do you do when you have to cut and paste?
Starting point is 00:46:53 If I'm typing something, I have my scissors here, and I have a lot of these things, these little stapling machines. So if I'm typing something, I type the part that looks like this. Nobody can really type my stuff. It looks terrible on the page. So I have to type it,
Starting point is 00:47:16 because I have arrows and all kinds of things. But when I come to a nice part, then I cut that part off and staple it on to something else with this I was very primitive but it works very well this dude is sewing screenplays so there's no problem how bizarre yeah I fucking love that I love this dude like he's just so maybe people you can't forgive
Starting point is 00:47:48 any of that shit it's really really fucked up I think people just aren't shocked by it cause he's such an idiosyncratic
Starting point is 00:47:56 like weird dude nothing with him surprises anybody well have you ever seen his old stand up I have a record of his old stand-up? I have a record of his,
Starting point is 00:48:08 like an old, old record of his. I mean, it was pretty good. I mean, it's like weird stories. Well, he's a fucking pervert, man. He was always a pervert. There's some stand-up of his. You know that stand-up, black and white,
Starting point is 00:48:20 he's near a staircase. It's from an old, just looks like rare Woody Allen stand-up stand up well all this work is about sex and psychology all of it with younger women like that's like a theme well he's a pervert man just like it's a rare old piece that's it that's it 65 rare it's it's hilarious listen to him which is this fabulous museum of art and when i I was younger, I used to hang out a lot at the museum in search of a meaningful social relationship. I used to look for girls at the museum.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And I saw on the wall once a nude by Rubens, but a real succulent nude. A naked huntress stabbing to death a warthog. And I got very emotionally involved with the painting, you know. Two gods had to restrain me. Tried to lick some of the oil
Starting point is 00:49:17 off the canvas. He's a creeper. So I was thinking to myself, at that time, where is it that I could meet the kind of girl that would pose for that type picture? And in my neighborhood, there's an art supply shop
Starting point is 00:49:30 that deals in offbeat things. And I run down there, and I get the name of an artist model off the wall. And I call her up. And I came on very strong like an artist. I used a lot of very artistic terms like brush, I said. Easel. I was just adorable. And we agreed on a price, you know, and hung up. And I got all dressed up in my smock and beret, you know, and little Harvey's Bristol cream on the hair. I'm too
Starting point is 00:50:00 much when I want to be. And I waited there. Now, a lady does a knock on my door, and standing there is this fabulous woman, but really sensational. I let her in quickly, you know, and I locked the door with my police lock immediately. And I said to her, take off your clothes right away, because I don't know much about art,
Starting point is 00:50:23 but I know what I like. I don't like much about art but i know what i like so he was he was always a creeper man glimpse yeah yeah he's a creeper i mean which is good and bad you know yeah yeah it's like that cosby the spanish fly bit yeah i mean like that was telling the cosby spanish fly bit is dark. Crazy, yeah. That's dark. Yeah, especially now. Yeah. He talked about that on more than one occasion, too. Oh, did he? Yeah, there was another thing. He talked about Spanish fly in an interview.
Starting point is 00:50:52 He was doing an interview with someone, and he talked about Spanish fly. In a casual interview? Like a panel, like doing a panel on a talk show, and he talked about Spanish fly. Oh, man. That was just like a part of his daily life. Yeah, I mean, I wonder what the fuck that was. We're never going to hear it from his mouth, which is too bad. Because, I mean, it's almost like, you ever see that documentary Iceman, Portrait of a Serial Killer?
Starting point is 00:51:19 No, no, no. It's on Netflix, though. I know what you're talking about. It's an HBO documentary where they sat down with this guy who was a notorious hitman, killed a bunch of people. And they sat down with him and talked to him about how it started, who's the first person he killed, what was his methods. And you hear the guy talk and you hear his mentality and you understand where he was coming from. And it's like, whoa, like you just have a glimpse into the eyes of a monster and you kind of understand like how it went down because we don't Often get a chance to hear interviews from serial killers hitman or whatever
Starting point is 00:51:52 But to have Cosby sit down if he ever did come clean Like maybe if they ever did arrest him and he came clean and they started talking about what he did or why he did it Or you know, I couldn't help himself or what was the impulse. I mean, I can't imagine because I don't think like that. But it's just like maybe, I don't know, maybe some people think they're entitled to shit. That's where it might be, right? Like that's my guess is that either you have an impulse you can't control. But then it's like how can you have so much control in the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Then I start to think like you have self-, so it can't be an impulse thing. It has to be that you feel you've justified this in your mind and you feel entitled to this. Well, he has always been a guy that's been known as being very arrogant and a guy who is—my manager met him, and he had a very, very poor opinion of him. He said in meeting him, he, like, treats everybody like he's a king. Yeah. And you're supposed to have a certain behavior towards him. You ever see the... He shit on a lot of younger black comics, too.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah. Always gave him a hard time. All of them. Everyone is dirty. Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, that famous bit that Eddie Murphy did in Eddie Murphy Raw
Starting point is 00:52:58 where he talked about he had to call up Richard Pryor because Bill Cosby saw his stand-up and called him up and chastised him. You know? And he called up Richard Pryor because Bill Cosby saw his stand-up and called him up and chastised him. And he called up Richard Pryor to ask him for advice. And Bill Cosby goes, Do the people laugh?
Starting point is 00:53:11 Did you get paid? Well, tell Bill to have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. It's a famous, famous quote. Dude, Pryor. And Pryor's the greatest. The greatest. Hands down the greatest. I feel like there's two greatest of all time.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I always say that Sam Kinison was the greatest for one year. For one year, I don't think anybody was ever stronger, especially in that time in 1986 or 1987, but he didn't sustain it. He just kept doing coke and his material went way downhill. But over a long-term period of time, Pryor was the greatest and the most influential. Yeah, hands down. Everything that most people would hide, it it was on stage he just said it like that he had nothing
Starting point is 00:53:50 to hide yeah well he was a unique unique talent man very unique guy and you know he also was like unique in that he would be real honest about his drug use yeah you know the drug use thing was very that was a very big part of his stand-up you know especially after he tried to kill himself you know the drug use thing was very that was a very big part of His stand-up, you know, especially after he tried to kill himself, you know, yeah, and you never felt like he was telling jokes It really just felt like you're just a naturally funny guy talking about the action. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I never felt like set up punchline. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was just talking, you know It's even though you knew he was calculated in his delivery it was just so comfortable and and it's hard to put it in perspective because back then if you listen to like some cosby or some um richard pryor rather from like 1981 or something like that it's hard
Starting point is 00:54:36 to put your brain back in 1981 because it was just a different time the world was young it was it was It was just a different time. The world was young. The media had not had the same influence that it has now. Yeah. Do you think your show, do you ever wonder, like, man, is your show going to get fucked with because it's censored? And do you ever think, like, maybe it would have been a freer show if I did it on Showtime or HBO?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Did you think about doing it? Yeah, we got offers from other production companies. And, you know, the thing for me was I wanted to fight this battle. I wanted to take the story to network television and be like, let's take this to Western Michigan. Going to cable, that's preaching to the choir. That's me, you, Randall, my friends. We all watch Showtime, HBO, Netflix. And I have the Vice show.
Starting point is 00:55:25 But there's a huge difference in the people we're going to reach with this show and my Vice show. Isn't the Vice show the same name? No, they bought the name from Vice. Oh. So, yeah, yeah. I had licensed it to Vice, and then it got sold over. But it's cool. Vice was awesome because ABC needed the name.
Starting point is 00:55:44 It was the name of the book and for me it was they were they were calling it far east orlando far east orlando yeah if if it wasn't such a bad name i wouldn't have taken the name from the vice show but you know shane and those guys are great man like they really did me a favor they didn't have to do that and that's why i fuck with them so heavy shane doesn't give a fuck he doesn't give a he does the right thing legitimately doesn't give a shane does the right thing yeah all the time i love that dude yeah and and like i'm very critical of you know my experience with 20th and abc and those things but you know i would never lie like i'm not just here to say nice things about vice those dudes always come through they always do they do the right thing and so we put
Starting point is 00:56:22 it on abc because i was like we can't go out with Far East Orlando. Right. That name was fucked. Far East Orlando. What does that even mean? Yeah. Is that where you grew up? I was like, just call it a chink's life, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Dreams works. Dream works. A chink's life. Did you grow up in Orlando? Is that why they did it? Yeah. I was, yeah. It takes place in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah. Like in the 90s. Orlando's a dark place. Dark fucking place. People don't know. No. You got Disneyland and then everything that's outside of Disneyland is very strange. I took a lot of ecstasy to stay positive.
Starting point is 00:56:55 In Orlando? Yeah. But when did you develop the New York accent? I've always talked like this. Really? It's super fucking weird. Is this in the hip hop? I think it's super fucking weird listen to hip-hop i think it's hip-hop it's watching so much basketball and then um it's my parents don't
Starting point is 00:57:11 speak english at home so my english is learned so in a way i think it's you choose the way you talk right yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's it's just i i all i did i just watched gangster movies listen to hip-hop watch basketball and it's it is what it i've always sounded like this that's interesting even when i was in orlando i remember there was a few girls were like are you from brooklyn no dc orlando pittsburgh and then i've been in new york brooklyn for like 10 years so then it just And then I've been in New York, Brooklyn for like 10 years. So then it just crystallized. Crystallized.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It formed. How long do you have to live in a place before you accept the accent? Oh, man. Like if you're from Georgia and then you move to New Jersey and then you start talking like you're from New Jersey and then you go back to Georgia, they're going to go, what the fuck, man? But, you know, even if you spend a week in Atlanta, because in Atlanta you're just tossed. It's's just scissor and alcohol all weekend and you get you get so faded that you I end up saying things a little weird even after a week in Atlanta
Starting point is 00:58:16 you get that fucked up when you go to Atlanta I get fucked up in Atlanta shouts to cooker all right my man cooker we went out to Folly's last time. It was awesome. So, Sazerop, that's that shit with codeine in it? Yeah, yeah. But, you know, A$AP Yams passed like a week ago, man. Is that what he passed from? Nobody knows. Who passed?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Nobody knows. There's no cause of death. The guy, A$AP Yams, who's like the architect of the whole A$AP mob, this rap group from Harlem. And he had this crew called the Blackout Boys. And it's like, my boy A-Ron had a t-shirt, did the logo Blackout Boys. And and he had this crew called the blackout boys and it's like my boy Aaron had a t-shirt did the logo blackout boys and then they had a crew they got a podcast but he passed like a week ago known scissor Xanax dude and so yeah they haven't said why right yeah no they haven't said why yeah but you know after it happened I know a lot of friends of mine were just like, dude, we got to chill with this.
Starting point is 00:59:06 We got to chill. Well, that codeine syrup, I never did it, but I did do some NyQuil. I've talked about it on the podcast before. I took NyQuil once. I was really sick, and I got that old NyQuil. This was like in the 1990s, and it was wonderful. Like NyQuil like? The real NyQuil.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Like half a bottle type of thing? Yeah, there's codeine and some other stuff. No, I didn't get... I mean I took the dose you were supposed to take. Oh, your jelly leg. Your jelly leg, yeah. I was just lying in bed like the world was giving me a big beautiful hug. Yeah. It's just all love. It's just like it felt so good. I'll never forget, I remember thinking this stuff is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah, it's like drinking Robitussin in middle school or high school like I would just drink Robitussin fun. Really? Yeah Cuz you couldn't get alcohol me and my boys just drank Robitussin So how did it get into the rap community syrup? What happened? So syrup? Houston Houston in Atlanta it was southern it was just you know Pimp C RIP like Pimp C died too But I mean those dudes all the rap a lot yeah the rap a lot dudes because it slows your heart rate down that's how he died too he died from syrup he died yeah yams we don't know yams nobody has confirmed so nobody knows how he passed but like people know how old was he it's like an epidemic man was he 26 yams
Starting point is 01:00:21 was like 26 i think something i'm not sure he's think. I'm not sure. He's a kid. I'm not sure, man. That's fucking young. It's sad. That's young to pass. Yeah, that's why, I mean, I'm not joking about it anymore because it's like, dude, it's pretty dangerous. It'll creep up on you. You think it's just cough syrup, but it'll creep up on you. Wow. Damn.
Starting point is 01:00:39 That's a thing with the youth today, though. I know that. There's a lot of kids that are drinking cough syrup. Yeah. I mean, I did it growing up. Like, not all the time. Maybe, like, once or twice a year, something like that. But I never saw it as that serious.
Starting point is 01:00:54 But now you start to see people pass it. It's serious, you know? Well, they're doing it probably every day. I'm not sure, man. I'm not sure. It's just not to be fucked with. Also, people in Philly, like, in Harlemilly like Harlem still do pancakes and syrup which is you drop the Xanax into the codeine and then that's just good night oh my god that's
Starting point is 01:01:14 good night Wow oh my god yeah we were in Boston two weeks ago and there was this dude that was fucked up and he was standing in front of the W Hotel and just standing there his pants were like half falling down and he was standing in front of the w hotel and just standing there his pants were like half falling down and he just kept leaning forward like he was gonna face plant well like he's going down he's going down then he'd catch himself and then he moved forward every time he did it to the point where he was in the middle of the fucking road in the middle of the road just fucked up and then leaning forward and my friend was like he's drunk and i'm like that guy is not drunk like that that is some next level shit that's not drunk yeah he's on some pills or something yeah but he kept like leaning forward and then we're like he's going and he
Starting point is 01:01:56 face plant and just catch himself we watched him like five minutes my friend was like rescue him like you'll rescue him you ain't rescuing that guy you rescue that guy you gotta go back to his childhood figure out what the fuck made him the way he is you gotta right take a time machine kill his parents you know there's a lot of shit you gotta do to rescue that guy yeah it'll put the hooks in you man like that's why you know kids don't do drugs right it's rough man it's rough you don't need it you can just smoke some weed kids yeah i don't even really weed that i mean i smoked like three nights ago but i've stopped having weed in the crib like i'll smoke when i'm out yeah because i noticed like like i i went through some family and i noticed
Starting point is 01:02:38 i would get really depressed when i smoked like it would just make me depressed and i was like this really is a depressant so i just smoke socially now in one way to make you depressed like when i'm really sad about like when there's something going on i feel like i don't have my own self-control if i'm smoking weed like i can control the emotions and block things out but once i smoke weed it's just like it'll hit you what makes you hyper aware yes super aware yeah sometimes wallow in it yeah sometimes that's not protecting you. But I always feel like the plant is trying to let me know all the real shit that I'm dealing with and all the dangers of all the shit that I'm dealing with.
Starting point is 01:03:14 That's like where paranoia comes from. People say weed makes me paranoid. I'm like, well, you should be fucking paranoid. If you're paying attention to what weed is doing is letting you aware letting you become aware of all the variables that may be pushing aside or putting blinders on yeah i think i've just been stressed lately a lot of shit going on in my life and i was like whoa i can't i can't look at all this 24 hours right i have to be able to just get away from this and when i was smoking weed it was like, kaboom.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I marinated in it. And I was like, I can't do this, man. So I got it out the house now, just smoking when I'm with friends. There you go. Well, I think like everything. You need moderation. You can't just be high all day, every day. You've taken breaks before too, right?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Oh, yeah. I take weeks. I'll take weeks off of it. Like if I go on vacation or whatever i always take breaks i've never gotten anything from smoking it but like i i've been like eating it on occasion yeah i got some shit right here we'll get you something i feel totally different eating i feel good eating it yeah but smoking it just doesn't do it well i'll explain it because i've explained it a million times in the podcast people are tired of hearing it when you eat it it's a totally different drug yeah when you eat it it's processed by your liver and it becomes something called 11 hydroxy
Starting point is 01:04:31 metabolite it's four to five times more psychoactive than thc but it's a totally different drug it's way more powerful that's why you can have like one of those little 75 milligram uh thc candies well 15 you can have a 15 milligram th If you're Joey Diaz, you go with the 75. Those 15 milligram THC candies, they just give you a nice feeling, man. You just feel good. You feel relaxed. You're Iron Man with the eating,
Starting point is 01:04:56 because if I eat, I bug. I bug out. I can smoke. It's about the volume. You just got to get the right guy to sell you the right amount. That's what the volume. It's like you just got to get the right guy to sell you the right amount. That's what it is. The right amount is – I feel like 20 milligrams is good. And you get crazy and you start getting into 50 and 75 and, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I know dudes who go deep. Like my friend Joey, he goes deep. Joey will chomp two 150s. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll have panic attacks and shit yeah no see yeah i
Starting point is 01:05:26 ate i ate an indica beef jerky and i ate the whole jerky myself was supposed to be dosed between like a couple people and i thought i died i woke up my brother i thought i died and i was like i'm a ghost you gotta take me to the hospital and he took me to the hospital. And I'm doing jumping jacks in the emergency room. Straight jumping jacks. And they're like, why are you doing jumping jacks in the ER? And I was like, I need to feel alive. I need to feel like my heart is beating. If I stop, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah, I was like, if I stop, I'm going to die. And the doctor rolled up on me. He's like, son, there's nothing I can do for you. I go, really? Really, I'm doing jumping jacks? And he's like, I have one piece of advice. And I go, what is it? He goes, if you're going to eat weed, don't be such a pussy about it.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Whoa! But it got me sober because I was like. This is the doctor. Yeah, the doctor woke me out of it because all of a sudden I was like, wait, so you say I'm not going to die? He goes, you're not going to die if you stop being a pussy. Just stop it. Whoa, the doctor said this? How old was the doctor?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Dude, he was like a 40 year old white dude really cool in houston i did this on the road in houston this yeah yeah i i don't need to be in houston in atlanta i just get in trouble is houston in atlanta why houston in atlanta you you could you could just get a i had like a liter of something it was some sort of like vodka, some shitty vodka. We rolled up to the Smoothie King because you could get the Smoothie King drive-thru, dump out half your smoothie,
Starting point is 01:06:50 fill the rest with vodka and scissor, and then just good night. Oh. Yeah. There's a place in West Palm. There's the improv in West Palm. It was right, it was connected to this place.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I forget the name of it, but they used to have these drinks that were like uh it was like like uh like a frosty like what are those things like you know you get them at the the movie theater you know they're those yeah slushies like a slushy yeah but they were alcohol and there was one called call a cab because if you drank it you need to call a cab yeah it was like five drinks in one drink like five drinks worth of alcohol in one of these fucking things and you would drink it and it you didn't know what you were drinking because it was so sweet like as you were drinking it it didn't feel like that is a
Starting point is 01:07:32 slight alcohol taste to it but good lord yeah make some fucking poor decisions after you drink that shit yeah good lord and when i was younger you just up. You'd be in another town. You're like, yo, we in Atlanta. Yo, let's wild out. And it was like twice a year, I would just be like on my lights out dance shit, right? I'm like, yo, it's time to do the lights out dance. That's what you call blacking out? Yeah. The lights out dance. Remember Sean Merriman played for the Chargers?
Starting point is 01:08:01 He was doing the crazy lights out dance. And I was like, yo, I'm about to do the lights out dance. But I had to chill, man. After dance and I was like yo I'm about to do the lights out dance but I had to chill man after that I was like I'm too old for this very very bad for the liver yeah that's the you gotta get out of here got a Randall's gotta go yeah wouldn't let him out thanks so much thanks Randall appreciate Of course. Gotta pick up my daughter. Keep it with you. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks, brother.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Thanks so much. Thanks for being on the show. Of course. And good luck, man. Good luck with the show. Good luck with all that North Korea shit, too, son. No, he's the best, dude. For real. The fucking best.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Yeah, I hung out with him before the show. He's a good dude. Yeah. That's a crazy position to be in, man, to play a dictator in a movie that gets banned, that Sony is so scared of it, they pull it out of the movie theater. Yeah. I have so much respect for him because you meet a lot of people who they'll do anything for a role. He was trying to give his role back and be like, I don't think I'm the one for this.
Starting point is 01:08:59 That's amazing. I was like, I've never seen honor like this from anybody in this industry. So, I mean, he's for real. Yeah, that's amazing that he made that decision. Well, it's amazing that the movie freaked him out less than the show. Yeah. You know, one of them was just social pressure or social responsibility. And the other one being like a real legitimate threat where Sony's hiring armed guards.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah. And it seems like he freaked out about that less yeah than your show it's just it was for him it was more morals and values and like representing he used to be like an asian studies professor really yeah there's kids like i'll put up a photo of him on instagram and they're like yo that's that's randall park he was my professor or my like graduate assistant or whatever wow that's hilarious yeah well he seems like a very educated measured sort of a dude yeah you know real smart that's a wild wild thing man to be a part of like one of the most controversial movies in all of history i mean if you think about
Starting point is 01:09:58 like hollywood movies probably the most controversial it's right up there with passion the christ do you remember passion the christ yeah that well there was that one and there was the other the other one um before passion the christ willem dafoe played he played jesus in a much more controversial film a long fucking time ago i don't remember that one do you know what i'm talking about yeah i don't remember the name of it but people were mad as fuck because i think he had like a sexual relationship with mary in the movie or something like that and people last temptation of christ yeah oh yeah yeah people thought it was blasphemous and but it's still the thing about christians is man you could piss them off and they'll fucking get angry and you get a few death threats but very you know it's not like someone drawing muham like this Charlie Hebdo thing. That's the most fucked up of all the religions to pick on.
Starting point is 01:10:49 You pick on the Muslims and they do dark shit. You start to see a pattern though, right? It's like people, whether it's France or America, people in a position of power feel like they're entitled. We talked about entitlement. They feel entitled like I have to be able to make fun of everybody. And sometimes it's just, is it worth it? Well, they think that you've got to change the culture. I think a lot of people think that it's almost a responsibility to take those risks
Starting point is 01:11:18 because at the end of the day, anybody that is angry to the point where they want to kill someone for satire is in the wrong. No, it is. And you have to protect free speech. And the only way to protect free speech, like Sam Harris felt that everyone should have, like unilaterally across the board, like every magazine, every newspaper should have published all those images. That's the only way they could ever protect free speech. How do you feel?
Starting point is 01:11:44 Well, I'm not a publisher so i don't i see sam's point but i also see the point of people that don't want to publish it because they don't want to risk their lives for something that they feel like is a story they're reporting on they don't feel like it's uh their responsibility because they didn't create those cartoons but they feel like this is a story they're reporting on they can report on that story without putting them in danger yeah this is not like the first time someone's been killed for making a drawing about muhammad i mean there's like there were some credible threats against the south park guys after they did those uh episodes of south park where they had muhammad in like a guy like was
Starting point is 01:12:21 in a teddy bear outfit and then they put him inside a truck he was talking from inside a truck and they still were getting like incredible threats like people were saying they were going to kill him i absolutely believe in everybody's freedom of speech to say whatever it is you want to say like you have to have that right but you also have to know there's gonna be repercussions you can't expect and you have to calculate it right because it's also do you have to know there's going to be repercussions you can't expect. And you have to calculate it, right? Because it's also, do you have to, like, did we have to make the interview? Did that movie have to get made? I didn't see it, so I can't say.
Starting point is 01:12:54 If I saw it and it was as funny as, like, Team America, I would say, yeah. Yo, I love Team America. You know, I don't even think North Korea's mad about Team America. It's so good, right? I fucking love Team America. But that's why the South Park dudes, I love them. Because they have a purpose, and there's something they're really saying. And it's like everybody can be in on it in a way.
Starting point is 01:13:13 The interview is not nuanced like that. Randall does a really good job for, I'd say, two-thirds of the movie humanizing Kim Jong-un. But then, of course, the writing takes a dive and it just is like okay here's everything we expected to see in this movie they had to wrap it up they wrapped it up hollywood proper and you know it's for for people who are in like oppressed countries or in oppressed ideology it's why i continue to poke them you know they're going to respond badly. You kind of have a responsibility to, like, people just, like, don't fucking poke that dog. And if you're going to poke that dog,
Starting point is 01:13:50 you've got to have a real solid legitimate point to what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. There has to be a positive social benefit to, like, what's going on here. It's not just to, like, create a stunt to flex the muscle of freedom of speech. Yeah, there's like deep responsibilities that you have when you tackle any like really super controversial subject. This is some deep responsibilities. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And that's one of the deepest, right? Yeah, just even me and you. I probably have the legal right to say whatever the fuck I want to say. But like why would I say that to you? I respect you. Do you know what I mean? Right. It's just like, you know, we do it in our daily lives. Well, you could see, you know, I mean, I could
Starting point is 01:14:27 see if they, I don't know. The Charlie Hebdo thing is strange because what, what was really fascinating to me was not, not necessarily, I mean, it was horrible what had happened. Yeah. It wasn't necessarily surprising. Right. But what was surprising to me was like super progressive people who were criticizing the magazine, saying that this is in response for racist cartoons. And they were almost justifying it in a way. They were saying they weren't justifying it, but by focusing on what they felt was racist cartoons
Starting point is 01:15:02 instead of like, hey, so what? You know, assassins stormed a magazine and shot people. And a grocery store, yeah. Yeah, you guys are looking for social brownie points by trying to be like the most progressive, sensitive, non-racist people alive. Like it's like, there's only one response. The response is you should never kill someone
Starting point is 01:15:22 for drawing something, period. Absolutely, absolutely. My, you you know I think what the articles is I fully agree with you there's there's no justification for any of this radical fucking stuff do you know I mean like you know I I don't even connect it to Islam I think it's a cover and it has nothing to do with Islam it these are just people on their own doing wild crazy abhorrent behavior my thing is is as the rational people in the situation as a rational people in a relationship to these radical movements it's just why incite it it's not worth it you know like we have to be better right but when does it end I mean how do you stop that sort of behavior do you kill everybody who thinks like that
Starting point is 01:16:07 what do you do I mean how do you keep joining Isis right and people keep joining Al Qaeda and you know there's a lot of those you know vice I think did something called like children of the drones and talked about how I think me me and Shane talked to you about it last time we were here but it's it's you know people whose families have been killed by drones they'll sign up of course they'll go do that and you would do and I would too if you were in that land and your your your family got killed by some fucking robot shooting missiles out of the sky and they killed the wrong people which happens way more often than not yeah they're way
Starting point is 01:16:46 more unsuccessful than they are successful like think about it this way joe like their lives just don't count like our lives matter you know like this happened in paris it was terrible there's a terrible tragedy there's no justification for any of this but then it's you know what's going on with boko haram those lives aren't worth as much as the ones in Paris at least in the eyes of the press and in the eyes of the aid and because there's Somalis that were killed and they're black yeah I mean I think yeah those are those are some of the factors I think there's even more but even with drones it's like we accept that innocent people get killed if this was in America I mean we wouldn't accept
Starting point is 01:17:25 this is it cops imagine if cops were using drones we wouldn't fucking accept that yeah it's Nigeria actually yeah but the I don't know man it's just the world today the climate of the world today it's so disturbing it's so disturbing that we would think it's okay to to engage in a practice where the great majority of the people that get killed by that practice are innocent yeah which is what drones are yeah and also the thing for me is just like i definitely i definitely fully agree with you that there's never a reason to kill anyone over a satirical article, picture, whatever. But the fact of the matter is, it's like, do we want to save lives or do we want to make a statement about free speech? I think it's about saving lives. I think it's about doing the right
Starting point is 01:18:16 thing and saying, these people feel oppressed. We've killed, you know, who knows why they're joining ISIS? Who knows why they're joining Al Qaeda? But we need to go the extra mile and figure out why they're mad, address these things, and not just like sit on our high horse because they're mad. And they probably have some reason for it. And whether it's rational or not, let's diffuse it instead of inciting it. Like that's my opinion is that we're not wrong, but like, let's solve the problem. And the other problem is once you have someone who's child, who's the child of someone who was killed by drones or your children were killed by drones and you become, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:56 this sort of a radical fundamentalist, it's, you can't turn that around. Like, there's no eye for an eye there. I mean, it's just like they, you've created something that around. There's no eye for an eye there. It's just like you've created something that almost has to go through generations and generations in order to calm down, and there's no way to have any sort of immediate fix, and everybody wants an immediate fix. You want an immediate fix to that.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Oh, no, man. This is going to take hundreds of years. Imagine even if you weren't killed by drones or you're just a kid in Iraq or Afghanistan and you've seen your entire neighborhood blown up and you're born into this life. You have no choice. You have nowhere to go. You have no opportunity. There's no hope.
Starting point is 01:19:33 And then the one thing you have is religion. These people writing these cartoons making fun of you. Like what else do you have? We're really kicking people who have nothing. have yeah we're really kicking people on who have nothing and when you poke people who have nothing not in a it's not reasonable but bad things are gonna happen and that's what fuels the sort of crazy conspiracy theories about the military-industrial complex being this sort of perpetual war machine like create enemies like that that's the way to create enemies. Destroy areas.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Kill a million innocent people in Iraq. That's the number that I've heard. I mean, I don't know what the... Somewhere between several hundred thousand and a million innocent people have died as a direct result of our actions in Iraq. Just that number alone, man. That's almost ensuring there's going to be some sort of a fucking military conflict over there for a long time. And the people that are alive today that are involved
Starting point is 01:20:29 in selling arms in the military industrial complex, they're going to profit off of that action for a long time. And what do we have against these people? You don't have anything against them. I don't have anything against them. I don't know why we're there. Like, no idea. We're there for false pretenses for both places, whether it's Afghanistan iraq the idea behind it was a lie especially iraq i
Starting point is 01:20:51 mean the idea that you know the one thing is like hey you know we got rid of a dictator yeah we definitely did he's a piece of shit no doubt about it but he's a piece of shit we propped up we put him in the place in the first place we We helped him out. Yeah, and now what's better? What's better? Is that better than Isis? I mean we divided that country. Yeah, you know we divided that country and then Palestine all the countries had something to do with that and and then we look at Iraq and people even the cynical ones are like We're there for oil, but look at oil prices now with fracking and natural gas now the oil prices drop like so now Why are we still fighting people well there's still money you know even though there's not as much money there's still
Starting point is 01:21:30 a shitload of oil yeah like i'm against fracking but if it can create middle east peace like maybe i'm for fracking you know what i mean like i'm definitely against fracking but yeah it's just like we can't win with anything man yeah that's uh people are gross yeah yeah in many ways yeah and they say the world temperature was the hottest year ever on record since they kept and they said that by 2025 it's going to greenhouse gases the temperature the earth will be irreversible and like who knows if that's true but i mean i feel like we should just start to work on it now. Well, they could start to work on it now, but I think the real issue is once the cycle has begun, it's almost impossible to turn around. It's kind of got to play out.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I had this guy, Randall Carlson, on my podcast, and he's going to be on again soon. I'm going to pull that shit up. February 2nd, he'll be back again and he's a fascinating guy and he's an expert on cataclysmic events and um and global warming he said is far preferable to global cooling he's like everybody that's worried about global warming all the great periods in history as far as advancement as as far as like innovation, civilization, they all have followed global warming. Global cooling, on the other hand, these were all natural cycles before we started inventing machines and carbon emissions and all that shit. But the global cooling, you said, ice ages is terrible.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Yeah, I mean, we could debate this forever. But the thing is, is that this is an artificial warming. Well, it Age is just terrible. Yeah, I mean, we could debate this forever, but the thing is that this is an artificial warming. Well, it's artificially accelerated. The cycle has always been, there's a natural cycle that you could track that's always existed of warming and cooling and uncontrollable, like the Ice Age. That wasn't caused by man. And the Ice Age, the ending of the Ice Age also wasn't caused by man.
Starting point is 01:23:23 They believe it was caused by asteroidal impacts around 12,000 years ago. But this is something that Randall's an expert in. I mean he had these charts and graphs and showed us all these photographic pieces of evidence. Does he think global warming is a good thing? No. No, he doesn't. Well, everyone's like the debate is settled. He's like the debate hasn't even begun.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Like it hasn't even begun. But he's saying this is not – look, everyone's like the debate is settled. He's like the debate hasn't even begun. Like it hasn't even begun. But he's saying this is not, look, it's definitely not good. Pollutants aren't good. Particulates are what he's really worried about more than the warming. He's worried about what we're doing to the air and places where they're burning coal. Like if you look at China and these cities that are almost unoccupiable. Like people can't live there. They're walking around with fucking masks on their face everywhere
Starting point is 01:24:05 The sky is perpetually dark gray. He said that's Particulates he said that's what we should really really be concerned with pollutants what we're doing to the ocean But he's like global warming is a bad thing, but it's not nearly as bad as the alternative He's interested global cooling is terrifying. I gotta listen that one. Whoo. He scared the fuck out of me. Yeah Well, he also scared the fuck out of me because he was explaining all the verifiable instances of asteroid impacts throughout history verifiable where they've asteroids have hit or comets have hit things have hit the earth and just Fucked everything sideways and this is what they they tie this into these
Starting point is 01:24:46 ancient structures that are totally unexplained like there's some ancient structures from pre 10 000 years ago that they didn't even know people could build these kind of things back then they thought that 10 000 years ago was like people were hunters and gatherers so they've tried to explain a lot of these structures especially because they're made out of stone they've tried to explain them by saying no they were built were built, you know, much sooner by, you know, modern people, and they just forgot how they built them. They were built like 2000 years ago or something like that. But they've, there's, since they've discovered some structures that they have verified that are 12,000, 14,000 years old, like there's some stuff in Turkey that they found, this place called
Starting point is 01:25:22 Gobekli Tepe, they found for sure 12,000 years old. Huge stone columns with 3D reliefs of animals on them and shit. All really sophisticated stuff for hunters and gatherers at the time that were supposedly wearing animal skins and throwing pointy sticks at fucking moving creatures, you know?
Starting point is 01:25:38 So this guy, Randall Carlson, points to all these instances of core samples where they find this stuff called nuclear glass that only exists on nuclear blast test sites and where asteroids hit. It's all over Europe and Asia at around 12,000 years in the core samples. Wow. Yeah. So there's verifiable evidence. And this is not just him. There's also all these other geologists that have found these micro diamonds that only exist from massive impact craters, massive impacts, just huge, powerful events.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And so they think that somewhere around 12,000 years ago, we were just hit. And that happens. It's not whether or not it's going to happen again. It's when is it going to happen again. And you never know when. You never know when. And things come behind the sun, and we can't even see them until it's too late. Because the sun, the gravity of the sun bends space and time because it's so immense that you literally can't see them when they're headed your way. They're headed your way, but we can't view them. So there's things that pass near us that we didn't see until it's like, oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Life's really too short, fam know life's really too short fam it's really too short and even if you don't get hit by an asteroid look dude i'm 47. i'm halfway dead looking good joe thank you very much but there's no getting around that even if you stay looking good what are you gonna look like i met cindy crawford i think she's like 51 or something like that so bad still yeah yeah smoking still bad Smoking. Still bad. Woo! You know, some girls, they hit that wall hard, but this bitch has been preparing for that wall. Yeah. She's got fucking rubber shoes.
Starting point is 01:27:13 She puts her feet up. She's bouncing back. I don't know what she's doing, but whatever she's doing, she should write books and give seminars. Yeah, she broke through that wall. She definitely broke through that wall. She's doing something. She's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:27:23 I mean, not just beautiful for 50. Yeah. She's beautiful. Oh, yeah. So, you know, but that doesn't matter. She's going to die, too. They all die. Everybody dies.
Starting point is 01:27:31 So whether you get hit by an asteroid or global cooling or global warming or... But the reality is civilization itself might not exist if we get hit. That's why all the other shit we're talking about, people are like, they treat it and death and it's just like like come on man it's perspective nothing's worth it it's all perspective i mean there's life and death for them because their life is dog shit yeah you know what i'm saying if your life is amazing it's not life and death if somebody draws a cartoon of your fucking leader yeah you know but even when i was broke just selling doing whatever like fucking around like life was still dope. It was mad fun.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Well, you're a fun dude. You got a great personality, which is why you should be some sort of an entertainer in the first place. Asian Joe Pesci. We make this happen. You want to be De Niro? You want to be Ace? No. Come on.
Starting point is 01:28:18 I'm not interested. You don't want to run the Tangiers? No. I think I do too much as it is. It's too confusing already being a podcaster slash cage fighting commentator slash stand up comedian. That shit is all too confusing.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yeah. Your UFC you kill it on UFC though. That shit is great man. I'm not even a big UFC fan but just cause like when it's on at the bar or my friends are watching
Starting point is 01:28:38 it's fucking dope to see you on that shit man. Oh thanks man. I enjoy doing it. It's fun. It's crazy how the athletes the level of athletes is just through the roof now you're getting these john jones types characters anthony johnson type characters did you see high level athletes now
Starting point is 01:28:54 that probably would have been playing other professional sports like baseball or basketball or something like that now they're fighting in mma and you're seeing just, whoo, seeing some high level shit. real gladiator shit. Mm-hmm. I could never imagine fighting any of those dudes. Dude, you gotta wanna do that and only that.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Yeah. That's gotta be what you wanna do. There's people that, like David was on the podcast once, David Cho, and he was talking to me about, you know, he wanted to have an MMA fight.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I'm like, don't do it. No, no. He's like, I just wanna do it just to say I did it like don't you're gonna fight somebody you'll fight someone who lives for it and you can't do that you know you fight some dude and he'll head kick you and you'll be depressed for the rest of your life yeah cho's so fucking talented and he really can do 99 percent of everything he wants to do but ufc is in that one percent it's like cho no matter how
Starting point is 01:29:44 talented you're you will get fucked up well i mean if he dedicated his whole life to it I mean from the time he was like 15 on not a critters training him like I broke his rib like critters idea of being his personal trainer it's like kicking him in the stomach and it's like take it Dave they do that yeah man in the stomach he broke his ribs somehow training him and then I remember remember I asked Critter, like, what's he doing? He's like, oh, I got Dave, like, running down the street, man. He's just running down the street. I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:30:11 Like, Critter's going to break Joe. But it's perfect for Joe, like, to have a guy like Critter. Yeah, no, Critter's the best, man. He's so crazy. Critter's hilarious. All that shit that went down with him, whether, you know, people were deciding. There was the same thing that we were talking about earlier. The social justice warriors attacked him
Starting point is 01:30:26 because of the story that he told on his podcast. But if you know Dave, he's got this flair for entertainment where he exaggerates the truth. There's no one coming forward to say that he raped them. He's bullshitting. It's half bullshitting for fun, for theater, for excitement. Dude, these days, man, you never know. Well, people are just waiting to get upset.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Instead of actually getting upset, they're waiting to get upset. And also, people have one perspective only. I watched this. Here's a perfect example. I was online today, and I was following this abortion debate between these two people and it was the most bizarre thing ever where someone was talking about at what at what age does the fetus become a person and that the argument like watching both sides go back and forth and it wasn't even this wasn't even like a right-wing
Starting point is 01:31:23 versus left-wing side yeah it was like someone who is like an objective rationalist who was debating someone who's a hardcore left winger who was also like one of these like super white knights defending women you know and one of the arguments was it was so hilarious that it's a woman's right to choose i have no business saying what a woman should or shouldn't do with her body which is universally like i i agree with that as well but what they were saying was this is where it got really crazy no person has the right to exist in another person's body without permission so what they were saying the argument was that a baby doesn't have the right to use a woman's body without her permission.
Starting point is 01:32:07 I was like, this is fucking crazy. A baby cannot use a woman's body. They were so pro-woman, so pro-right. You were talking about nine months in. At what point, the real debate was, and this I think is a real debate, and this is again coming from me who's pro-choice. There's a real debate as to when is that a person. And to say that it's not a debate is fucking horseshit. To say that it's not a debate that a woman who gives birth tomorrow kills the baby today and it's her prerogative.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Like, okay, really? Like, at what time is this creepy? At what time is this abhorrent behavior when this someone has a living being inside their body well it's not a living being until it's born well it's uh really like come on man there's some you you have to have some flexibility to your perception because this is a strange and very unusual situation where you're all you can terminate a life and i mean i think you can terminate a lie i mean the the the image that they were showing was a, um,
Starting point is 01:33:06 a three day old embryo and the head of a pin. So we started this conversation, which just looks like a few cells, but when it's a fucking baby with an umbilical cord and a heartbeat and eyes and fingers are moving like, whoa. Yeah. To pretend that's just the,
Starting point is 01:33:22 you know, no person has the right to use a woman's body without her permission. Like, oh, really? You're absolutely right that there is a debate that is being had constantly at what point something becomes a human being. Because there are people, I mean, obviously it's a human being once it comes out. Yeah. It's not a black and white issue. It's just not.
Starting point is 01:33:42 It's not. It's not a black and white issue. It's just not. It's not. It's very. I'm super pro-choice, though. And I just, as a man, I feel like women need to decide what they want to do with their bodies. And, you know, we run so much in this world that, for me, I just don't want to legislate women's bodies, like, from my perspective. No doubt. Even though it would suck to be in a personal situation. If I had a girl and we were having a kid eight months in she doesn't like me anymore doesn't want to have a kid and wants to i mean dude right that would that would be some shit
Starting point is 01:34:10 well not only that like does a woman even have a right to tell a woman what she can and can't do for her body obviously a man we don't understand we don't ever get pregnant it's not our concern or it's not uh it's not up to us to decide i I should say. But for a woman, can a woman tell another woman that she can't have an abortion at nine months? I mean, where do we draw this line? It's also a question, too, like, does the government have an ability to legislate? Imagine if you were dating someone and you guys were having a kid and she was eight months pregnant and just on a whim decided, you know what, I feel like I don't want this baby to be a tenant in my stomach anymore yeah this baby does not there's a person who does not have permission to use my body like whoa that was the way they phrased it that would
Starting point is 01:34:54 really test my intellectual and and like reasonableness right that would really yeah put me to the test and that's why when you think about those situations, you're like, can we even logically vote on this? Like, you can't really have an opinion or vote on this until you're in that situation. You kind of, like, it needs to be... Well, the person who he was debating with started insulting him, the super left-wing white knight person, started insulting him and calling him an idiot,
Starting point is 01:35:19 which is always when you know that they're falling apart in a debate because he was saying, okay, well, you were saying before that it's not a person and now you're saying no person has the right to use someone's body without their permission so what the fuck is it is it a person are you killing a person that doesn't have the right to use your body or is it not a person until it's born and then they started insulting them because they realized the moral conundrum, the logical conundrum that they're in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:46 You know, it's a fucking real, like there's no black and white there. No. Whether you're a pro-choice or whether you're pro-life, that issue is a, that is a very bizarre issue. Yeah. I mean, I'm all about women's rights and the rights over their body. That one, that one, I don't have the answer, nor do I want to be part of the decision making to be honest. Like, I just don't feel like I got the fucking facts for that one, kid. I don't think the answer. Nor do I want to be part of the decision making, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Like, I just don't feel like I got the fucking facts for that one, kid. I don't think anybody has the facts for that one. That's one of those things about life itself. If someone wants to abort a baby at eight months for no real good reason, besides just maybe not wanting to pump it out, like, that's, dude, that's, wow. But there's a lot of people that are willing to jump up and defend women and you know and and and jump into this this position of being the sort of this defender no matter what this defender of women's rights nothing in the world is absolute though yeah you know like that's the thing I think people have to believe in
Starting point is 01:36:39 and also yeah people hold it as like a badge of honor I defend this no matter what it's like you're looking for social brownie points instead of objectively discussing a very bizarre issue. Well, it's a very bizarre issue. Abortion's bizarre. Like, even you brought up Cho, right? I love, we all love Cho. And that podcast episode with the masseuse rape story, dude, that put me in a tough spot. That put me in a tough spot that put me in a tough spot dude yeah you
Starting point is 01:37:06 know and like i people were calling me and asking me and they're like you're an asian man too do you think this is an asian male angst thing i was like yo number one this has nothing to do with what part of the country your ancestors came from yeah that's crazy and i'm just like but i can't i mean he's the he's the homie. And so, like, I know who he is and I know his intentions. But if I didn't know him, I'd be tight at that. Like, that's, if you really did that. Like, I never ask him, but I'm like, if you really did, like, in my mind, I'm like, if you did that, I don't know if we could be friends, homie.
Starting point is 01:37:42 You know? Well, what exactly did he say? He said that he asked her to touch it she started jerking him off and then he grabbed her head and he asked her a second she didn't want to and then he grabbed her head and then started mouth fucking her yeah that's what he said right yeah yeah it's all it's so bizarre like it's so david cho it's so cho it's really the line like that motherfucker just stands on the line. And, you know, you... Well, if you're a woman and you heard that,
Starting point is 01:38:08 and you'd imagine being this poor woman who's a massage therapist, who's being... Probably doesn't speak English. Yeah, taking this millionaire guy's money, and you really, you know, you can't do anything about it. You're shoving your penis in her mouth. That's pretty indefensible, dude. She's already jerking him off.
Starting point is 01:38:22 I mean, what's up with that? No, no, no, no, she didn't want to. She just doesn't want to she just doesn't want to lose her job and like yo i've i've been with women where even like i i'm so careful with this shit you never know like i'll be dating a girl for a couple years and it's just you know no forcible blow job do you know i mean i just can't i can't do it like i but i dated a girl who used to like that that was her thing she used to watch porn where guys were, like, grabbing the back of a girl's head and forcing the head on her dick. And I was like, why do you like that?
Starting point is 01:38:51 I mean, if somebody gives me the Asian Joe Pesci rule and I have to force Ginger to suck my dick, I'm going to be morally compromised. Like, I don't do that in my normal life. Yeah, but it's a role. But if you're dating a girl and that's her thing, she likes you to grab her head. I mean, it's not involuntary. She wants you to do it. If it's discussed beforehand and she signs the papers with my lawyer so that for the next six months I can, you know, do this and that's what you want, sure. Have you ever seen that Louis C.K. joke about that?
Starting point is 01:39:17 No. What is it? He's dating some girl or he hooks up with some girl. They start making out and he tries to have sex with her. She says no. And then he sees the next day and she goes, what happened last out, and he tries to have sex with her. She says no, and then he sees her the next day, and she goes, what happened last night? And he goes, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:39:28 She goes, well, why didn't we have sex? He goes, well, I tried, but you didn't want to. She goes, no, I did. And he goes, well, why did you say no? She goes, well, I was hoping you would just go for it. He goes, what? Like, you wanted me to rape you on the off chance that you're into that shit? No, no.
Starting point is 01:39:47 That's the shorty that, like, fucks everybody. Not only are you fucking women and women's body image and women's rights, but now you're fucking dudes. Because now you just taught a dude a move like rubbing your elbow into the boobs. Do you know what I mean? Like, now you put a really bad tool in the toolbox. Yeah, it's not a... Because the next time Louis C.K. gets the best... Oh, it means yes.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Well, it's a great bit. It's a great bit. Because any man who dates more than, you know, X amount of women is going to come across... You mean a psycho. You're going to come across an aberration. A very rare person who has... Like this girl that I used to date who wanted guys to grab her head and force on her dick yeah like she wanted to blow me but she wanted me to grab she would like i dated her for a while so it was her shit that was what she was into yeah she wanted to
Starting point is 01:40:34 get on her knees and she wanted you to grab the back of her head and like face fuck her i'm so i'm funny i've been in a situation where it's like i want to be choked right or i want to be smacked or whatever and like look in the heat of the moment the customer's always right so so i'll do it right i'm in the service industry but after i'll always be like i'll always i'll always be like yo man like is something wrong like you okay like what the fuck did your dad do to you you know and i'm always kind of just like yo this like you can't, because I would never want to be punched in the face. Yeah. But you're a guy, and I think there's also a different, like, women, there are women who have legitimate rape fantasies.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Yeah, it's a social structural thing, though. Like, if. Is it? Or is it a masculine feminine thing? Well, there's definitely men who want to be raped. You think? Yeah. Why do you
Starting point is 01:41:25 think oh i have a friend no not jamie but i have a friend who likes getting tied up man he likes girls to beat him up oh that's right no you're right you're right there are there are he likes being abused there are i'm glad you brought that up because i was about to chalk it up to like we live in a patriarchal society and we treat them like shit and that's must be why they want this but you're right there are there are dudes too. Yeah, there's people that encompass every single spot on the spectrum. And there's, I mean, look, there's
Starting point is 01:41:52 men who wish there were women. There's women who wish there was men. There's men who like to beat women. There's women who like to beat men. There's men who like to get beat up by women. I think the end of the story is basically just like sexually people are fucked. And there's no normal.
Starting point is 01:42:07 There's no normal. There's no normal. The customer's always right. There's a law that they're passing in California called the Yes Means Yes Law. And the idea is you're supposed to get verbal consent. The idea is to curb these college rape issues, which are constantly. And a lot of them, they think, they think there's one way to mitigate that is to make sure that people communicate because like,
Starting point is 01:42:33 sometimes like things are just happening and, and women like feel awful about it afterwards, but they didn't know how to stop it when it was going on. So the idea being that a guy has to say every step of the way, can I take your clothes off? Can I put my finger in you? Can I, you know, put my dick inside you? Can I do this? Can I do that? And there's like a video that accompanies it called Consent is Sexy. And it's hilarious. It's a weird campaign where you get this hipster looking dude with a goofy fucking beard. And he just looks like kind of a bitch. And he's with this really hot girl. And he's like, can I kiss you?
Starting point is 01:42:58 Yes. And he kisses her. And it's just like ordering toppings on a sandwich. Not yet. Yes, pepperoncini. Yes, olives. Like, that's fucking weird, man. And she asks him, can I touch your leg? He's like, yes.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's just get this straight. You can do whatever the fuck you want, okay? You got the green light, honey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just tell me when I can stick it in. We need the fucking, the easy pass. Just like.
Starting point is 01:43:16 The easy pass. Yeah. Yeah. We'll put that shit on our forehead. It's like a turkey tester. See that? Boink. See that sticking out?
Starting point is 01:43:22 That's a go. Like, that's, yeah. It's just like, you're at the casino buffet just bring your plate yeah fucking eat everything yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna put a a fucking a thing over your neck a lanyard while you're wearing that you could do whatever you want touch me any way you want you got a green light but you know like the girl's saying can i touch your leg and the guy's like yes like get the fuck out of here what guy has ever said i didn't give you permission to touch my leg yes means yes don't touch my leg and also the asshole in me like i would have more fun like just fuck fucking with them than actually fucking them yeah like if they
Starting point is 01:43:54 were like can i touch your leg i'd be like just this area here you know only an inch above my knee yeah don't disrespect my thigh five inches below my taint three inches above the knee you're safe you touch anything else i'll fucking cut you well there was a guy who was debating it and he was uh well he was uh arguing with this yes means yes thing and he had this really important point he said there was a moment that happened to me when i was in college he goes where i met this girl we were at a bar and i had a couple drinks she we had a we never talked she looked at me I looked at her and she raised her eyebrows and she went like that like like this come here and the guy walked towards her she put her hand out he grabbed her hand he took her into the woman's bathroom fucked her in
Starting point is 01:44:35 a stall and he said we never talked he goes it was one of the greatest nights of my life because I've jerked off like a hundred times since then thinking about it I never talked to her again. We didn't become boyfriend and girlfriend. I didn't speak to this girl. We didn't exchange words. It was a loud call. He went into the bathroom with her, and they fucked.
Starting point is 01:44:55 They fucked. They didn't even know each other. And he's like, this could not happen with this yes means yes shit. It was the greatest night of my life. Not only that, he goes, it was instigated by a girl, like giving me the Camille face, you know, and grabbing my hand, and next thing you know, we're in a bathroom, and we're having sex. You know, like that kind of shit does happen with people.
Starting point is 01:45:16 No, I mean, pretty much every girl, I mean, the thing you try to block it out when you're in a relationship, but pretty much every girl you know is given a bathroom blowjob. You know what I mean? Sorry, guys, all your wives probably sucked a dick in a bathroom blowjob. I mean sorry guys all your wives Like boys boys like some boys like boys some girls like girls who gives a fuck Yeah, it's fine and bathrooms are totally fucking fine places for us to go down. Asteroids are coming. Asteroids are coming motherfucker. The world is warming. Exactly there's not and it's like to legislate this shit is just like, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:45:45 It's not the way. The way is education more than legislation. That's the way. But how do you educate a kid that's 18 years old that grew up with douchebag parents and he's got some sort of a sociopathic mindset? It's like how do you educate people out of that besides psychedelic drugs, besides some total reset of the mind with Ibogaine or Ayahuasca or DMT or mushrooms. Without that, and even that doesn't always work.
Starting point is 01:46:10 There's people that are fucking complete sociopaths that have done all kinds of psychedelics. I know people that are out of their fucking mind, egomaniacs, that are like purportedly psychedelic users. And I'm like, how is that guy a psychedelic user? He doesn't check himself at all. He's not looking at himself introspectively at all. Yeah. So it doesn't work
Starting point is 01:46:29 on everybody, man. There's no every... It's like we were saying, the spectrum, it's just giant. Yeah. It's giant. We are so fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Humans are just fucking weird, bro. We're weird. And I almost think like we have to be weird in order to... In order for this super organism to exist the way it exists and function the way it functions.
Starting point is 01:46:47 And in order for innovation and culture and society to exist, it almost seems like everybody has to play this very weird, unique role. And some people are pretty obvious and pretty straightforward and cookie cutter. And you're like, oh, I've seen one of these before. And then other people, you meet them, you're like, whoa, this bitch is crazy. and you're like, oh, I've seen one of these before. And then other people, you meet them, and you're like, whoa, this bitch is crazy. I want people to be as weird as they possibly can as long as it doesn't infringe on my ability
Starting point is 01:47:10 to be weird myself. Yes, there you go. That's it. That's like the basis of the social contract. It's like, I want you to be fucking psycho. Yeah, the weird thing is like when someone tries to prevent you from being who you are because whatever you enjoy offends them even if it doesn't hurt anybody
Starting point is 01:47:26 Yeah, or if your desires like require somebody else to be victimized like then that's right Yeah, well, that's that's different. But as long as no one's being hurt and everyone is Agreeable upon the act like it's like gay marriage or gay sex at all Like anybody who's got an issue with people that are fucking each other, what do you care? What is it about you, whether it's religion or whether it's social issues, what is it about you that gives a fuck
Starting point is 01:47:53 what someone does? If two chicks want to live with each other and put on rubber strap-ons and plow each other all day, why does that freak you out? Enjoy. Yeah, enjoy.
Starting point is 01:48:03 It's a big world. It's not like there's only five people. Yeah. You could do it upstairs for me. I don enjoy. You know? It's a big world. It's not like there's only five people. Yeah. You know? You could do it upstairs for me. I don't care. I might care if you're loud.
Starting point is 01:48:10 You live in one of those old apartments that have squeaky floors. Yo, I love noise when I'm sleeping. Do you? I need noise. Yeah, I have to, like, turn the TV on, leave the TV on and shit. Really? Yeah, I don't like quiet when I sleep. Wow, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Why is that? Like, New York, like, when the garbage truck came or fire, like, I was, like, fantastic. Really when I sleep. Wow, that's weird. Why is that? New York, when the garbage truck came, I was fantastic. Really? I sleep good. That's so weird. Yeah, like noise. Where do you live in New York? Well, my apartment my brother has now is in Fort Greene on Adelphi between DeKalb and Lafayette.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Is that Brooklyn? Yeah. Yeah, that's where my brother lives there now. But I don't- You don't live in New York? No, I live out here now. Do you really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:46 How long have you been down here for? Seven months. We got to hang. We got to hang and we got to do a regular podcast, man. You're hilarious. Anytime, dude. I love doing this. I love you doing it, man.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Yeah. So do you like open the window up out here to hear the horns and shit? I leave the window, but I'm like the border of Malibu Palisades. So it's super chill. Yeah, I just leave the window, but I'm like the border of Malibu Palisades, so super, it's super chill. Yeah, I just leave the TV on. Oh,
Starting point is 01:49:09 that's what you do. Wow. Watch a movie, fall asleep. That's so weird. Yeah. Have you always been like that? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:49:14 you know, I think, because my mom was always screaming and yelling and fighting with my pops, so it's like, I mean, I went to bed
Starting point is 01:49:21 with Connie Corleone just breaking all the plates every night. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. Well, people are adaptable as fuck, man. Some people, they cannot deal with the city. They come in the city, they start freaking out.
Starting point is 01:49:37 And some people, they freak out when they go to the country. They just don't like it. No, I'm desensitized. I'm totally desensitized. I've seen anything that you could possibly throw be thrown and just my mom's a maniac dude that's hilarious they're still together though yeah they're still together they still fight all the time Wow yeah my grandparents fought so hard dude that I thought that I would never get married I thought I would never have a relationship my my
Starting point is 01:50:00 like I had issues with relationships based on not just my parents, my mother and father, my actual father. I grew up with my stepdad, who was a great guy, but my actual dad was a real fucking piece of shit and was very violent, abusive, and I saw a lot of domestic abuse. I heard a lot, but I saw some dark shit when I was a little kid. And then my grandparents, they didn't physically fight,
Starting point is 01:50:28 but they would fucking scream at each other so hardcore that I would never want to be in a relationship. I was like, fuck this. Just screaming at each other. My parents physically fought, and I used to always reach for the phone and call the cops, and both of them would be like,
Starting point is 01:50:42 don't do it. And I was like, wait, the one thing you guys can agree on is for me to not call the cops, and both of them would be like, don't do it. And I was like, wait, the one thing you guys can agree on is for me to not call the cops? And they'd be like, go upstairs. Hide your brothers. What? And I would just, like, put my brothers under the bed
Starting point is 01:50:57 and then close the door, and they were younger than me because I was the oldest. Like, what's going on? And I had no answers for them, man. Wow, that's crazy. I had no answers. They were younger than you, so you were the one that had to make sense of it all to them? Yeah. Like, what's going on? And I had no answers for them, man. Wow, that's crazy. I had no answers. They were younger than you, so you were the one that had to make sense of it all to them?
Starting point is 01:51:08 Yeah. Dude, it was rough. Oh, fuck. It was rough, man. Well, my sister was a year younger than me when my mom and dad had, like, this physical altercation that made my mom move out of the house. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:19 My dad smacked the shit out of my mother in front of the kitchen, and my little sister ran and hid, and I hid, and we were both freaked out. But my sister just shut shut it out she doesn't even remember it she doesn't talk about it i can't forget it because in my mind it was like okay now i know that my dad is a like i used to think that like he was a hero and he was a great guy and you know everybody wants to think their dad is superman yeah you know when it was undeniable proof that he wasn't, it fucked my head up. But I only had my little sister. She was only a year younger than me.
Starting point is 01:51:51 It wasn't like I had to explain everything. My youngest brother is good with it. He's well-adjusted. Me and my middle brother, we've never really let it go. It's like a part of us. And I wish that there was one parent that I could just be like, they're the good one
Starting point is 01:52:06 and the other one's bad. Right? My mom would like throw hot water at my pops. And I'd be like, what the fuck is going on? And then, and then,
Starting point is 01:52:15 you know, he would do his thing. He might smack her or whatever. And then she'd try to punch him and then he'd hit her. And I was just like, this is WWF in the crib. I got a friend
Starting point is 01:52:24 who still fights with his wife and his wife threw a fucking like, this is WWF in the crib. I got a friend who still fights with his wife. And his wife threw a fucking screwdriver at him and stuck him in the arm. Like it stuck out of his arm. And he fucked her that night. He goes, that shit turns me on. I go, what? And he goes, one time, man. Well, this is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:52:37 They were watching a movie together. And she fell asleep at the movie. So he took his pants down. And they were watching 300. He took his pants down and they're watching 300. He took his pants down and put his asshole like an inch away from her head and he goes and he yelled something. She woke up and he farted right in her face.
Starting point is 01:52:55 That's a new move. That's the cornholio. Oh man, that's a new move. And she fucking went crazy. She punched him in the mouth. She fucking freaked. He goes, she fucking made me see stars. Like she cracked me in the jaw. And he goes, I fucking love it. That shit turns me on.
Starting point is 01:53:11 I go, that turns you on? No, man. When I saw this stuff with my parents, I was just like, I never want to be in a family like this. Exactly. I've always just dated just nice, good people. Yeah. That's what I like. I like people that are nice.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Yeah. They're sweet. Yeah. I don't want no yelling. No. I'm not into yelling. No. I don't want to yell at my friends.
Starting point is 01:53:31 I don't want anybody yelling at me. That's the one thing I look for people to ask. What do you look for when you hire people? Good, trustworthy people. Good values. That's it. You can't teach that. People have it or they don't.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Yeah. And avoid people that you can have disputes with. Like, maybe it's not them. Maybe it's how you get along with them that makes them the way they are but whatever the fuck it is just take the path of least resistance yeah it's because the asteroids are fucking coming they're coming ebola's on the way all the above global warming global cooling yeah this is fun though man yeah i had a great time, brother. Always fucking fun. We got to do it, my friend. More often, right? I'm around, dude.
Starting point is 01:54:07 I'm around. We got to hang. And when does your show start? February 4th? February 4th, yeah. February 4th. Fresh off the boat. Eddie Wong, you're a bad motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Thank you, man. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. And follow him on Twitter. It's Mr. Eddie Wong. H-U-A-N-G. Mr. Eddie H-U-A-N-G. Much love, my friend.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Death Squad. He's here. We're doing it more often,G. Mr. Eddie H-U-A-N-G. Much love, my friend. Death Squad. He's here. We're doing it more often, folks. Yep. See you soon. It was so much fun to come, man. Yeah.

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