The Joe Rogan Experience - #618 - Artie Lange

Episode Date: February 25, 2015

Artie Lange is an actor, writer, comedian, radio personality, and author. He recently started his own podcast available at http://ArtieQuitter.com ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. That was a struggle to put that tweet out, and I think I fucked it up. As I was releasing it, I was like, bitch, you didn't even spell check that. Artie Lang, ladies and gentlemen. Artie Lang. Yeah, I fucked it up.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Whatever. I didn't do the right thing. The colon was fucked up. Damn. Whatever. People figure it out. Artie Lang,nie Lang ladies gentlemen Arnie Lang can play some fucking pool You got a pool table out there, I didn't get this body running ten miles a day But they know we played a couple games but you you kick some ass too it was fun Yeah, did you play in a pool hall as a kid or something? Yeah. Well, I tore my ACL when I was 21, and I couldn't work out until I got it fixed.
Starting point is 00:00:49 So my friend John Tobin, who was a stand-up comic from New York, he and I used to meet at this pool hall and just shit away our days, you know, just work comics. Right. And I just started playing obsessively. I got hooked on playing in tournaments. Yeah, I went through a nutty time where I couldn't stop playing pool. I had all these delusions of grandeur that I was never going to have to work in. Like Jackie Gleason in The Hustler with the chubby fingers going ace in the corner.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It's so classic, right? Deucener. When Paul Newman goes, look at that little chubby guy walking around like a chubby ballerina. Look at the way he moves, like a dancer. It's like he's playing the violin. Stick stuck between his chubby little fingers. Yeah, that is an amazing movie. Yeah, it's one of my all-time favorite movies.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Absolutely. Jackie Gleason's a hell of an actor, man. Yeah, we were saying, Jackie Gleason might have been like the best celebrity pool player ever. Like, Jackie Gleason could run 100 balls. It's hard to find somebody. He almost beat Moscone once, I think, in straight pool. Didn't, but almost did. Didn't, but almost did?
Starting point is 00:01:50 I don't know about that. That sounds like some bullshit that Italians say over the fire. Well, there was this one time, Jackie Gleason, he had him on the fucking ropes. He had him on the ropes. Fucking Moscone didn't. He was shitting himself. Couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:02:02 This guy's going to be better than me at everything. Yeah, I also have an uncle who told me he struck out Dominic DiMaggio. Oh, Dominic DiMaggio. Joe DiMaggio's retarded brother. No, he wasn't that retarded. Was it a real Dominic? There was. There was a Vince, Dominic, and Joe.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I didn't know. I didn't know. I was making that up. They all died broke. Really? Pretty much. After the 1989 San Francisco earthquake, that's where Joe DiMaggio
Starting point is 00:02:28 lived, cops found him walking around the city in a daze with a suitcase full of $600,000 in cash. So it was all from baseball card signings and shit. Wow. How weird. Was he
Starting point is 00:02:43 just getting crazy? He was starting to lose it. He was starting to lose it. Marilyn Monroe pussy was that strong. I bet it was. Sounds like her and Rita Hayworth had magical fucking twats. Broke a man. Like apparently to his girl, he used to leave flowers on her grave.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And Sinatra with Ava Gardner. Yeah. Some chicks know how to sling it. Well, what does Richard Price say? I don't know why business is always complaining. I got half the money and all the pussy. What the fuck? Could there be a more truer statement made about life?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah, and there's some women that just have their currency, like their social currency is worth just so much more than you can ever afford. I know. She's so happy to just be with them. And I think Marilyn Monroe was just so powerful. She was. Trying to hold on to a tornado or something. Good luck keeping her.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Well, that's exactly what they were trying to do. Yeah. It drives you crazy. Yeah. Who's the other guy? Was it Ginsburg? Who did she live with as well? Arthur Miller.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Arthur Miller. And Artie Shaw. Yeah. Three, I guess. Yeah, I'm a film historian. Are you really? I'm an historian in a lot of ways, especially in sports. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I don't know how I know this. I have no idea how I remember this, but you give me the year between 1949 and the year 2000. So, what? 51 years. I'll give you the two teams who were in the World Series and who won. Holy shit. I don't know why I know it. If you want to do a couple, I'll do it and then we'll get out of this. I wouldn't even know. Does anyone know who won a World Series
Starting point is 00:04:18 one year? These two guys, they don't pay attention to sports. What am I, on The View? You're on The Mail View. You don't know any World Series titles? I literally have no idea who won this year. I don't know who's the World Series champion this year. Right. I don't know who won last year.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Really? I don't know. I really don't know. I know it sounds ridiculous. No one does, I guess, if you don't like baseball. You like football, right? I don't even watch football. You just watch that MMA shit.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I watch kickboxing. What is the difference? I watch shit. I watch kickboxing. What is that? I watch jiu-jitsu. What's the difference? I watch MMA. I watch those things. It's all the same shit. And I watch boxing.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And that's all I pay attention to. Boxing I love. I love boxing. Mayweather in the back. Yeah, what do you think? I think Mayweather is a very clever man. Yeah. Very clever man.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And setting the fight now is a good time. It's a very good time. I think so financially, too. It's a good time financially, but it's also a good time. It's a very good time. I think so financially, too. It's a good time financially, but it's also a good time for him as far as success-wise. Manny Pacquiao was extremely dangerous just a few years ago, maybe even more so than he is now. He lost some steps, though. There's a thought, and it may not be correct, because his last fight against Brandon Rios, he looked really fucking good. And then Chris Algieri, he looked really fucking good.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I mean, he looks good, dude. He's a beast. I mean, Manny Pacquiao is a beast. I know, I understand that. I've seen him fight. But the thought is, the Marquez knockout, when Manuel Marquez knocked him out, knocked him out dead, cold, one right hand, bam. And the thought is, when a guy gets turned off like that,
Starting point is 00:05:40 like maybe there's a little something that he lost. Maybe there's a little step. It might, it's not always correct Sometimes guys bounce back from a knockout and they're fine. It totally varies on the individual But you know a lot of boxes but Ali always says after Frazier hit him with that first left in the first fight He was more apprehensive than he ever was in his life He said it cost him the fight against Spinks and Foreman because all he saw was that fucking I'm gonna fucking left hook he hit someone He beat Foreman, yeah. Boom, man.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It affected the rest of his life. It was a launching left hook. Oh, my God. Joe Frazier would throw himself. Feet were off the ground, man. Did you ever watch the fight between George Foreman and Joe Frazier? Yes, yes. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I like Frazier, too, but it's classic Howard Coselli. Foreman was just something different back then, man. He was just something different. He was hitting guys like 20%, 30% harder than anybody I've ever seen. Fight night back in the 70s was fun, man. I remember being a kid really getting like, wow, this is going to be fun. Yeah, I remember watching those ABC Wide World of Sports. Alexis Arguello would fight.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Arguello, Pryor. Remember the two Arguello-Pryor fights? Yeah, incredible. Fight. Arguello-Pryor. Remember the two Arguello-Pryor fights? Yeah, incredible. The one they thought Pryor's fucking manager put schnapps in to get him going.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Well, they thought it was coke. Oh, okay. That's what they thought it was. But then he said it was liquor, maybe. That doesn't make any sense. More likely it was coke. If someone gave me a bunch of peppermint schnapps, I would not want to fight, no. Well, not only that, I don't think you could just drink. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I don't think you could just drink Coke. Like, if someone puts cocaine in a glass and mixes it with water. There's the liquid Coke that you shoot in your nose. Dude, can you just drink it? Can you just drink it? Yeah, I'm sure you could. Dude, pick up Stevie Ray Vaughan's book. About drinking Coke?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah. For about two years, he woke up every morning and dissolved cocaine into a glass of Jack Daniels and drank it like Rocky drank the eggs. Oh, my God. Really? Yeah, because the nummies. When you're done with doing the line, you always put the nummy on your tongue or on your teeth. It makes your whole mouth numb. So drinking it must make your whole body numb.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And especially in whiskey. So it's like it's an upper and a downer, you know. Wow. It's basically a living hell. Well, he was just apparently, I mean, Richard or Aaron Pryor, rather, later in his career, he had a real problem with drugs and a real problem with cocaine. And so it's very likely that he might have had that problem even while he was like an elite athlete. And if you gave him just a little bit in the corner, like there's no drug test.
Starting point is 00:08:02 But those fights, I'll give you another fight as a boxing fan. I ran Barkley and Duran. Fuck yeah. Holy shit. Roberto Duran showed that even though he was in his 30s at the time, I ran Barkley. He was bigger, stronger. I ran Barkley. He knocked out Tommy Hearns.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Did he knock out Hearns before that or after that? Before. Before. I ran Barkley. It was terrifying. And Roberto Duran boxed his face off the same way he did to Davey Moore. Yeah, exactly. I just wish he would have done it to Leonard.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I guess maybe he couldn't find them, whatever. Go grab them and just beat them up. Who knows what happened, man, that second fight. Frank Sinatra got paid. That's what happened. It could be that. A lot of people thought that he was paid to take a dive, that Duran took a dive. A lot of people thought that Duran just didn't train and just partied
Starting point is 00:08:46 like a fucking wild animal after he beat Leonard the first time. Duran, he was one of those guys who won $4 million in a fight and then two months later, after a bunch of booze and cocaine and new shoes, he needs to fight again. He gets these big white gold shoes and he gets heavy and then he needs to
Starting point is 00:09:01 box again. He's a classic story, man. He's a classic story. I love Roberto Duran. Oh, he's one of my all-time favorites. Joey Diaz got me his book many, many years ago, because we would always sit around and talk about Roberto Duran. Right. Joey's a huge Roberto Duran fan, so he gave me his book.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It's amazing. The guy had an incredible life. I'm sure he did. A lot of boxers, if you think about it, probably have. They're brought up nuts, I think. Yeah, it's hard to be at the highest level without being a little nuts. Yeah, you got to nurture the physicality and then the anger. And then before you know it, you got a pit bull that attacks your neighbor.
Starting point is 00:09:35 That's what you want. I was watching a video of Mike Tyson from 87 training with Kevin Rooney. And they were hitting mitts. And you see young Mike Tyson who was like, I don't think he was like 20 or something at the time. I don't know how old he was, but he was just fucking these mitts up. Just moved so fast for heavyweight, and all that bobbing and weaving shit that he used to do. He bobbed and weaved after every combination. Every combination he would throw on the pads.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He'd go down, he was short, and they'd miss him, yeah. Dude, but even on the pads, that's how he did it when he was working the pads. He'd go down, he was short, and they'd miss him, yeah. Dude, but even in the pads, like, that's how he did it when he was working the pads. He just was constantly in motion. Yeah. Something else. Yeah, mental. A mental thing happened. That's what I think. Emotionally, you gotta stay tough a long time,
Starting point is 00:10:18 man. Even Ali went, but he lasted long enough. But Tyson, you know, a couple years, and then he went crazy. And I don't blame him for it. I'm not saying I don't blame the guy for going crazy. I mean, look at the men who live in that Kardashian house. They all eventually go nuts.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That's atmosphere. Like Lamar Odom starts smoking crack. And, you know, of course, Bruce Jenner has a pussy, you know. Well, he's getting one. Yeah, it's really difficult to believe. Well, to be at the level that a Mike Tyson was at his point in life at a really young age, 20-year-old champion of the world, you know, he's out there doing whatever he wants to do, basically, buying Bentleys, crashing them, giving them to cops.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I mean, he was just off the chain, crazy. He owned a lion. I mean, he was as crazy as you can get. You can't get any crazier, and you can't keep that up. That's not a sustainable life. No, listen, I don't live a sustainable life, so much less that. I've decided that something's got to change. I mean, I'm pushing 50.
Starting point is 00:11:23 What's got to change? I don't know. Career? A lot of U.S. pools? Certainly not the careers. The mean, I'm pushing 50. What's got to change? I don't know. Career. A lot of US pool. Certainly not the career. It's the only thing that makes me money. I'd love to shoot pool, but I'm not that good. Let's make it happen.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You just train. That's the show. That's the reality show. Artie Lang joins the pro tour. Joe, we've known each other a long time. I got to get out. I got to stop. I got to get out.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I'll have a party or something. You're going to have a party and stop what? Working. Just done. Yeah. I'm going to buy a huge chair and eat myself until I fit into it. I don't know. I got road coming up.
Starting point is 00:11:58 You like doing the road still? I like doing the road because I go with my friends. I bring comics that I like to open for me and we have fun. How many guys do you bring? Depends. Sometimes two, sometimes one. I like going on the road with a friend. See, I've tried that.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I've tried bringing friends of mine to open for me and I still am miserable. Really? Yeah, I don't know. Mostly because I don't let them in my room. Oh. Or the dressing room. I like a lot of them, but it doesn't get me over the lazy. Multiple shows in one night where you got to reboot and then get back up.
Starting point is 00:12:30 The multiple shows are tricky if you freeball your material a lot. Because you get to that second show, you're like, I'm not exactly sure if I did this this show or last show. I'm just going to tape it. Oh, no, that's happened a bunch of times where I repeat a joke. Yikes. Holy shit. I was drunk once in Pittsburgh. OK, it's like midnight. There's a 400 pound guy sitting in the corner. And I start to tell the same joke I told about 20 minutes before.
Starting point is 00:12:54 The 400 pound guy's got like khaki shorts on. He's got his hands closed like this. And as I start the joke, he just goes, did it. He just did it with a real He just said, did it! With a real, real mad look on his face. And he stopped me and I said, oh, thank you. I appreciate you coming to rehearsal. They get hostile. All right, man, I'm not trying to fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I made a mistake. Some people just demand perfection. Yeah, well, this guy didn't look like one of them. They get very angry if there's any mistakes going on. Live performance by an intoxicated man who you love. Well. You know? Guy comes all the way to see you.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He's got to fucking treat you like that. How dare he? He lived across the street. He looked like David Beckham. Was he beautiful? Do you think it's gay that I feel Shadow Chocinco is David Beckham dipped in fudge? First of all, I think it's a huge insult to Chad Ochocinco. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:53 You like him? Because he's far more physically beautiful. You like him? Well, he's just way more of an athlete. Looks wise. Yeah. I mean, if you looked at both of them naked, you would definitely be able to tell if it was in black and white, who's who.
Starting point is 00:14:04 They're both the same color. Chad Ochocinco's a different kind of athlete. I guess so. That guy's a fucking freak athlete. Yeah, but he's fucking up. He's not around. He's not doing his thing. It's hard to keep that going, like we talked about earlier. It's hard to keep it going. We're talking about him so we know who he is. If we know who he is, a lot
Starting point is 00:14:20 of people know who he is, which means he probably, at least for a short period of time, he got a fuckload of money. And before that, probably didn't have any money. See, I don't think you're giving his problems enough merit. I mean, I agree with everything, but the man did change his name to Ocho Cinco. It's 85 in Spanish. If you're normal, you don't do that. But we are talking about him.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah, sure. I mean, we could talk about Hitler, too. What's the criteria? What do you want to talk about? No, but I mean, we could talk about Hitler, too. What is it? What's the criteria? What do you want to talk about? No, but I think for those guys is what I'm saying. To those guys, it's important to get your name out there. For football players, movie stars, whatever, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I think that's a good move to call yourself Ocho Cinco. I mean, otherwise, I don't know. I don't follow sports, so I really wouldn't know. Well, I don't have a jersey number, so I'm going to change my last name to my cholesterol level in spanish which is of course already quattro dos outro uh that's gonna get me a lot of that's hilarious what else have you been up to you just do this on the road basically in the ufc i do still the ufc oh i'm watching your UFC schedule? My God, you're like so busy. I'm pretty busy, but it's all
Starting point is 00:15:28 stuff I like doing, so it doesn't bother me. This weekend, it's at the Staples Center in LA. Do you do every match? No, I don't do every one. There's a lot that I don't do. There's a lot that are like the Fox Sports Night ones. Most of those I don't do. Some of them I do do. But what we're doing
Starting point is 00:15:44 recently is we have a bunch of guys in here and we watch the fights and do a podcast a live podcast while we're watching the fights that's really fun yeah I did that with the Super Bowl cuz I had a $30,000 bet on it and it's kind of weird to see what happened I won five grand Jesus Christ son I won five lost on the fucking coin toss two grand did you really immediately you know pissed off you thousand dollar coin toss I was down two grand. Did you really? Immediately. You know, pissed off you. You had a $2,000 coin toss? I was down two grand before the game started. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:16:09 But I ended up up five Gs. I had the Patriots and I had the Patriots and the over. Dude, you like gambling. That's one thing I can tell. As soon as we moved to gambling tonight, it was Brian Regan wanted to hustle us. We had to play a $20 game of nine ball. I thought I ended up walking away with a double serve.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, he won. Two fives of mine. And he got out like four or five balls in a row. Like, not an easy out. You got out. No, I appreciate it. You played one game and already cleaned it up. No, we didn't.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It was nice. You won the first. You didn't bet on the first two. You won. But we were just playing. And then Regan wanted to hustle us. I thought he was going to pull out the real game. Yeah, Regan looks like maybe he grew up in one of those Irish neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Want to play, matey? How's your better pool game, matey? All of a sudden, he's a fucking pirate. That's hilarious. I was trying to do Charles Dickens. Oh, I got confused. I never know what that guy sounded like. Me too.
Starting point is 00:16:59 No, that was a fun time. Are you enjoying doing podcasting now? No. Why don't you like it? Listen, I'm not an ambitious guy. My point is like, you know, the Rob Lowe, like the Audie Lang. I'm more like the stop caring Rob Lowe, you know. I'm that guy
Starting point is 00:17:13 in the contract. Oh, right. That commercial with the caveman Rob Lowe. Yeah. I'm the other guy. So, you know, the podcast, I do it in my kitchen. I've been late eight times. Well, what don't you like about it? You're so good on the radio.
Starting point is 00:17:29 What would you not like about podcasting? I like being on the radio. I like talking like this and saying stuff on the radio. You don't like organizing it and doing anything yourself? No, I just let everybody else do it, but then eventually I need something done properly. It's a mess, man. Well, that just seems like a logistics thing. That seems like that could be handled.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Look, you're a really fucking funny guy. For you to not have a podcast would be ridiculous. You know, you've been in a couple, there's a couple problems that you've had over the last few months about tweets and shit like that. We read those tweets off and we were fucking howling. Oh, thank you, man. We didn't think there was anything wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I get on Twitter, I said, look, this is hilarious. Like, do you think he really means what he's saying? Of course, that's why they're so stupid. It's so stupid. These are jokes. You know, it really is gross. Neither one of those things you said was mean-spirited. It was funny shit. It was funny,
Starting point is 00:18:15 self-deprecating. And in the one where I'm Thomas Jefferson and the black girl Carrie Champion is the slave, where Carrie Champion is my slave and I'm her master, I point out that I do not ejaculate until she escapes. You're saying that you would have her beat you,
Starting point is 00:18:37 and you'd come all over yourself? What did you say? I'll go one further. I'm saying when I see an African-American woman get her freedom and break free from the chains, I just blow a load all over the place. Oh, so you have to see the freedom happen in order for you
Starting point is 00:18:51 to come. So you're a freedom justice warrior. Let jism ring. Oh, how dare you. See, I don't think there's anything wrong with you being incredibly excited and sexually aroused at a woman achieving freedom. I think that we should all be another wrong can you think do you think you're capable of coming equally for a man achieving freedom or maybe a gay man no no transgender man i don't think i could
Starting point is 00:19:13 come for a man you got to come across the board and everybody will be happy oh wow when people get free don't think i could come for a man i really don't i don't think it's possible i got nothing against the man Man getting free. Oh, a man getting free. Yeah, a man getting free. Like the same way. A slave male. I'd be more happy about it.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I'd just be clapping. But it's just... Look, yeah, it's a controversial... Of course, that's what comedy's about. You know, and I... Look, I know you're trying to be funny. It's funny. It's what it is. It's not like you're some fucking politician
Starting point is 00:19:43 that says some nutty shit that nobody expected out of nowhere off camera, and you catch him like this is his real beliefs. Like, whoa, we just found out that Artie loves slaves. Like, no, you're a fucking comic. Yeah, exactly. I'd really hire, like, get a slave in my house. It made me angry. And it made me angry.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Very angry. It was terrible. It's just so silly. It cost me something. It cost me an appearance on a talk show, which I didn't care about. But still made me angry. Very angry. It was terrible. It's just so silly. It cost me something. It cost me an appearance on a talk show, which I didn't care about. But still, they took something from me. And that's when they're happy. We got it from you.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Boom. Now go fuck off. We win. But they don't. They don't. I hope not. We'll see what happens. You've got a lot of people on your side with that.
Starting point is 00:20:19 You've got a lot of people who enjoy that kind of comedy. I always talk about Brian Holtzman. He says ridiculous, cruel shit, but I think it's hilarious because I know him. He's a sweetheart of a guy, but he used to do this joke about Susan Smith. Remember the chick who drowned her kids? He goes, I heard those kids were bad.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I heard they sat that close to the TV. They never put away their blocks. Those kids will not be missed. You've got to see him doing it to understand. You can't take it out of context. You've got to see him doing it to understand. You can't take it out of context. You've got to see his whole act. It's ridiculous. He says a bunch of really, and then he laughs at himself. He's being funny, and
Starting point is 00:20:51 it's an art form. Just like a violent movie's an art form. You're not really killing people. Just to prove your point, I went to Match.com after I broke up. They give you a form thing you have to fill out. You have to be honest in the questions. I can never be honest in those questions.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I got a girl who looks like she's an ISIS if I did that. So I got to the point where I said, what's the worst thing you've ever done? And I actually put that down to see what kind of reaction I'd get. And the worst, one time I had sex with a retarded girl, and to get rid of her, I put her on a bus. How did that work? Well, I don't know. I haven't seen her since. No, I mean, it's from Match.com.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Did you put that on? I didn't get the date. So, you know, I'm not even going to get into that either. That's shocking. I bet you people didn't think it was really you. I bet they didn't want to get catfished. Who would they think it is someone pretended to be you? Writing retarded shit they probably didn't think it was you that's the only reason why it didn't work now that people know it's you check
Starting point is 00:21:53 That page later. I you know yeah, I don't know I don't have time So you you like doing this you just don't like the hassle that comes with like organizing it I'm not an organizer. I'm not a prepare. I'm not a prepare, but so you just want't like the hassle that comes with organizing it. Yeah, yeah. I'm not an organizer. I'm not a preparer. So you just want to show up and be Artie Lang. Yeah, they're letting me do that pretty much, but who cares about that? People got to start
Starting point is 00:22:15 listening. Otherwise, they just do something else. Thank God I got my stand up. Well, you don't think people listen to your podcast? What do you mean? Well, I mean, there's not a ton of people listening to it. Well, you're doing this subscription-based thing, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 But I can't get sponsors. I called people. What do you mean you can't get sponsors? Oh, because I said a couple of things. Listen. Just say you're sorry. Say you're sorry, Uncle Artie. I refuse!
Starting point is 00:22:42 Oh, Jesus. I think you can get sponsors. I don't think there's a fucking, Jesus. I think you can get sponsors. I don't think there's a fucking question in the world that you could get sponsors. The only offer I had was sphincterine, the ass mint. It's an ass mint? Yeah, you put it in your ass. To clean everything up? Before someone eats it out.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, that might kill people. You be careful about that. That stuff, that's like give you toxic shock of the asshole. Would you like one? No. I don't know. I appreciate it i appreciate buddy you're a good man i think it's just you're a good friend i've just given up don't give up i mean it's just i'm not giving up i just don't care look at me this is what i look like i don't care yeah but you do care enough you care enough to be funny you care
Starting point is 00:23:20 enough to make those funny tweets no i gotta keep me, you son of a bitch. No, I gotta make money for my mother. Is that what you're doing? Yeah, my mother, she'll be on welfare if it wasn't for me. This is crazy. I gotta get out of this. Wow. Not this, I'll stay here. You mean comedy? You mean doing comedy?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Or podcasting? I could do podcasting, you know, I don't know. You could do podcasting. I do it. You keep doing it, but you keep going. If someone sets it up for you and makes it nice. I have it set up, but it's not in a studio. I think what a lot of people are doing
Starting point is 00:23:56 wrong is they're trying to get paid from podcasting right off the bat. I think it's kind of hard to do that. I know Anthony's been pretty successful. Anthony Cumia. He's got a very, very devoted following already on his, like he had that video podcast set up. Right. Before we ever did it, that's one of the reasons why I wanted to do this. Anthony has a fucking full studio in his basement with a green screen.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Wow. He's had that since like 2006 or something fucking crazy like that. He's always experimented online. And he's just kind of a tech genius. Right, right, right. See, I'm not. six or something fucking crazy like that. He's always experimented online. He's just kind of a tech genius. So he built up this following and then he started having people do subscriptions when he left Opie and Anthony. But I think that if you
Starting point is 00:24:33 start off, look, I've listened to some of your podcasts. They're hilarious. You're a funny fucking dude, man, always. You're always funny. I even enjoyed you on that Nick DiPaolo show where you couldn't swear. That was fun. It was fun working with Nick. You know, we'll see what happens. I even enjoyed you on that Nick DiPaolo show where you couldn't swear. Yeah, no, that was fun. It was fun working with Nick. You know, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I'm tired. I mean, I've been through a lot of shit. We need to pump you up. We need to get you in shape. Orange juice, fresh squeezed, celery, kale. Are you ticklish? I tried Nutribullet. I put all that kale and onion rings and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Every time I took a dump, it sounded like James Caan getting shot in the Godfather. And that includes the kick at the end. Oh, that's hilarious. I'll figure it out, man. I'll let you know. You'll be fine. You just surround yourself with positive people. What are we going to do, go bike riding tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:25:21 No, you don't have to do that. You don't have to go bike riding. Well, what do you want to do? Let's just need to take it slow. I like talking to you and hanging, but I want to do like an elliptical machine with you. Well, you know what you need to do? You just need to get motivated. You need, are you, if you're not in a relationship, that's what you need is a super hot personal
Starting point is 00:25:37 trainer to motivate you. You got some of those numbers? Oh, they're all over Los Angeles. Well, then give me a couple. I don't know any. I'll find some for you online. We'll find some. We're going to use the power of the internet to find Artie Lang, a beautiful fitness trainer,
Starting point is 00:25:49 who's going to motivate him to get in shape. You're just going to see her just glistening in the sun telling you, come on, Artie, up the hill. Can I pick what color? Well, yeah. You want a black check or a white check? Chinese? I'd like a nice Taiwan. I'd like a nice mocha mulatto type. I don't think you're allowed to say mulatto anymore. I think they took that from us. Well, I'm going to nice mocha mulatto type.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I don't think you're allowed to say mulatto anymore. I think they took that from us. Well, I'm going to win the mulatto right now. See, this is why you should do a podcast. How could you not do a podcast? It's a blast. You know what? I'm going to text you about this. I need some advice.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I'll do it. In a couple minutes of your time, I need some advice. I think we could get you a 10-time increase in how many people are listening to it right now. Well, no, it's not even about that. It's about my health. I don't think it would be hard at all. Oh, your health, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 There are a lot of people listening. Thank God. I need more. But my health is what I'm talking about. Well, it's real simple. But my health is what I'm talking about. Well, it's real simple. I mean, it's not simple psychologically, and it's not simple emotionally.
Starting point is 00:26:51 That's the hard part. But it's real simple. Eat really healthy foods. Your body will get leaner. You'll lose weight. It's really that simple. You just get it. That should be all you need. So how the fuck am I going to do that?
Starting point is 00:26:59 It's hard to do. It's hard to do. It's hard to avoid. I can't do it. I mean, you came in with a cheeseburger. I do. Did I? Yeah. You came in with a cheeseburger. I do. You know? Did I? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah. You came in with a cheeseburger. You were joking about it being gluten-free. Did I really? Yeah. There's something wrong with that. I eat them all the time, man. I eat cheeseburgers all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I ate two of them the other day. I was at a fucking food truck in Portland, and it was so good. I had a Thai bacon cheeseburger. God damn, it was good. That sounds unbelievable. Oh insane it had grilled jalapenos in it and that peanut Thai sauce like saute sauce or whatever it is That sounds fucking shit. It was so good I had to go back and have another one is a place called the brunch box in Portland was little food trucks Get it and they give it to us for free. We're winning our money so
Starting point is 00:27:42 Good for you my man. nothing like good street food. God damn, it was good. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of that every now and then, but what you need to do is just figure out a way to discipline yourself. But I don't see that happening. Unless you, like, change the way you- Well, I mean, of course, it's a long shot, but I'd like your support.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's a long shot, and I'll just accept you as putting one down like, yeah, I think Artie's going to do it. You could definitely do it. Well, before you were being sarcastic. No, you could do it, but you keep saying, like, ah, what am I going to do? How's that going to happen? Like, you got to, like, decide that you're going to make
Starting point is 00:28:13 some sort of a gigantic change, but that's fucking very difficult to do. You know, they say one day at a time. That's really bullshit, because it's every 10 seconds at a time. Well, yeah, you're right. That's the reality. The timing, too, of what I have had to stop in the last six months is literally, it's not a short list.
Starting point is 00:28:27 It's booze. It's heroin. It's coke. It's pills. It's sugar. It's gluten. It's shakes. Don't have a cherry?
Starting point is 00:28:35 If you have an orange, peel it this way. And if you drink water, only drink it cold. All right. How the fuck am I going to live? Everything I know to do, I can't do anymore. How much of the life pleasure that you get out of life revolves around food? It's just below the heroin pleasure. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Now, food is a sensuous thing, man. Come on. It's a sensuous thing. It is. And it's very difficult. Very difficult to get over. Especially really good food. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Mmm. I love a nice meal. Oh, who doesn't? Who doesn't? But what you can do, if you really want to restructure the way the whole thing works, is just earn those meals. And it means even more when you get them. I do.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I go to work, I make money, and I pay for them. Of course you do. But I mean, earn them psychologically by trying to take care of your body, those those meals. And it means even more when you get them. I do. I go to work. I make money. And I pay for them. Of course you do. But I mean, earn them psychologically by trying to take care of your body, those other meals. Reward myself. Yeah. Give yourself five, six days of eating good. One day, you're allowed to go off like a rocket. One day where it's just fucking linguine with white sauce and fucking lasagna and steaks and milkshakes and whatever the fuck you want one day.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But all the other days, really healthy, really like real foods. Real vegetables, raw vegetables. One nut. Yeah, six days, one healthy, one nut. If you just did that, you'd have a radical change. And cut out soda. If you're going to have to drink soda, if you really have to, it sounds gross because diet soda has aspartame, which probably gives you brain cancer. But it will definitely be better.
Starting point is 00:30:08 This story gets better and better. It will definitely be better and allegedly gives you brain cancer. Well, I appreciate that, Joe. I'm going to try. Believe me. You think I'm bullshit. I'm going to try to live like that. I have to.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I have to. Otherwise, I'm not going to be around. Yeah, listen. You're too talented to let slip away. What we need is just someone to come along, some professional to come along and deal with that aspect of your life. Deal with your diet. You know who did it? Kevin James.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I know who did it. Kevin James hired a professional chef and some sort of whole foods. Like this woman, like she specialized in like green vegetable shakes and this crazy diet. I forget what the diet was. But she was like, Kevin hired her. And this woman would cook for him every day. She would cook all these really lean vegetable-based diets. This fucking dude lost 70 pounds.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He's where I got the kale shakes idea from. Now, when he hired her, he was what, year six of King of Queens? I think he had retired. I think King of Queens was done. So someone loaning me this money to hire the queen of vegetables? He's just rolling in cash. Like this year, he's just got his arms open. He just rolls around his bed.
Starting point is 00:31:12 That's right, man. Yeah, he has like a chute he pulls on the top of his bed, and money comes out of the ceiling. And he bathes in it. Like that scene in Decent Proposal with Demi Moore and the cash on the bed. That's me. My friend Chef Elise Lane from Kill Tony. I like that scene, indecent proposal with Demi Moore and the cash on the back. That's me. My friend's chef, Elise Lane from Kill Tony, Russell Peters just hired her because he gained a bunch of weight. And all she does is like cook him healthy meals so he has it in his house.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So when he gets hungry, he's like, I'm going to go to McDonald's. He goes, oh, wait, here's, you know, a healthy meal that's already made. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. If you could get someone to do that in Hoboken, I bet if you got, I bet you would be able to get someone to do that just based on your podcast and based on the results they think they can get you, how much good that would do them in advertising. Yeah. I mean, could you imagine?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Well, we can't do that. I mean, if you just paid for the food and, you know, their services, like they donate their services so that you can promote them. Well, Hoboken's closed this year because it's Sinatra's 100th birthday. You can't do anything in town. Really? Yes, I got to go somewhere else. Wow. The whole place is closed down. They just play Sinatra songs.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Really? For how long? Up until December 2050. So the whole year they play Sinatra songs? Pretty much every other night. But then the week he dies, it's going to be insane. Oh, my God. I can't believe it's real.
Starting point is 00:32:21 he dies, it's going to be insane. Oh, my God. I can't believe it's real. Zappel is, you know, pepperoni, sconchillo, super side, gabagool, fresh mozzarella, wet mozzarella, roasted peppers. Fuck the singing. You go right into the food. Look at you. You just dive it in.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Well, I'll go to the gym first. I love Frank Sinatra. Yeah. I had a dog named Frank Sinatra. Did you really? Yeah. I mean. You've got to like the Francis.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You've got to like the chairman of the board. Yeah, I loved his songs, especially when I was younger. But I didn't know that they had that much of a following for him. You didn't know Sinatra had a following? No, no, no. I mean, like, where they would have, like, a whole year of nothing but Frank Sinatra in the town. Oh, no, especially in Hoboken, man. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:02 That's amazing. I mean, it makes sense. That's where he came from. You know, you'll Hoboken, man. That's crazy. That's amazing. I mean, it makes sense. That's where he came from. You know, you'll appreciate this, Joe. Somebody on 60 Minutes or some other talk show was talking to him in the mid-70s, right? And the interviewer said to Sinatra, Frank, how do you feel when you hear that criminals like Charles Manson say, if they ever break out of prison, they're going to kill people like you,
Starting point is 00:33:21 Shirley MacLaine, Dean Martin. What do you say to that? And without missing a beat, Sinatra looked at the guy and said, let him out. He just said, let him out. And the guy got scared. He went, all right. Let him out. Basically, let him out.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I'll kill him. Wow. He wasn't bullshitting either. I don't think so. I mean, I wouldn't find that out. You know how many people Sinatra must have known? I mean, he was the god of the Italian world. I live around a block from where he grew up.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Really? It's nuts. Who's got his house? Who owns his house? Well, it's an empty lot. Of course, out of respect. It's a social club right next to it that they play poker at. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I lost $38,000 there one night. Are you not allowed to talk about this on the air, like where they play? That was years ago. Oh, they're not there anymore. No. And there's no cop that's going to tell them to stop. That's just that spot. Not that spot, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Wow. You like Hoboken? Love it. You got a beautiful view, right? I got a view. I look at the whole city. The view of the city from outside the city is actually better than the view inside the city. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:34:29 It's good to look at the city but not be in it. I have a friend who lives in Brooklyn, and he's got a high floor. He's on the 10th or 11th floor. And it's above the river, just looking out across. And you see the bridge to the right. It looks framed. It doesn't even look real. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:44 You look out his window. You're like, dude, your view isn't even real. That's the bridge to the right. It looks like framed. It doesn't even look real. Really? You look out his window. You're like, dude, your view isn't even real. That's the kind of view I have. I got lucky. I have the single best view of Manhattan from the Hudson River side. It's like a painting. To me, there's like three great views in the world. There's a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:57 But there's three archetypes. One of them is the nature view. Like mountains to me are number one with that. Like mountains and a lake. You see those two of them together. That to me is mountains to me are number one with that. Like mountains and a lake. You see those two of them together. That to me is like the most spectacular thing to look at. But the other two are two different types of city views. There's the New York one from across the river.
Starting point is 00:35:14 When you're looking at it and you realize like, wow, this is an amazing place. Like look at the size of this hub of life and humanity. But the weirdest one is above Doheny. A lot of people don't even know about this one. You go into Hollywood, you go into the hills above Doheny, and you're looking down over the city. And when you're looking down over the city, it looks like Blade Runner. I know what you're talking about. It doesn't look real.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I do the Doheny one. Yeah, yeah. It's nuts. My friend Larry used to have a house up there, and it didn't look real. Like, you would look out of his yard, you'd go, baller. You're such a baller. Yeah, and it's scary. Oh my god It's scary and like alien like you're looking down at a spaceship
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like it doesn't look like any other view I've ever seen I've taken photos of it when you're flying in you kind of sort of Get it But you don't get it like you get it when you're looking out of someone's back porch Because he had like one of those infinity pools and like you would sit like by the pool and you look out off the balcony Like oh my god look at this fucking view this is insane he's like living in a science fiction movie yeah but that helps you get up in the morning it's like wow just go into nature you can't be in a bad mood yeah it's like art right you're like it's like you're looking at natural art that's how like me
Starting point is 00:36:19 i look outside i have route three and sea caucus which is there's usually snow trouble you look at the that atmosphere forget it you can't be in a bad mood yeah well you can but I have Route 3 and Sea Caucus, which is... There's usually snow trouble. Snow trouble. You look at that atmosphere, forget it. You can't be in a bad mood. Yeah. Well, you can, but you're silly. Yeah. I avoid it.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And that's saying a lot. You avoid nature? No, bad moods. Oh. Do you see yourself becoming a man in the woods someday? No. Just packing up? I would just lay down.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Just lay down. I would lay down. I would go, listen, I'm just gonna wait to erode. I see a theme here. There's nothing I offer. You need to be motivated, because you're obviously very very funny. I'm motivated. I get up. I go to comedy. I travel. I get up. I get a check. I come back. I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:57 what the fuck? I'm not a bump on a log here. No, you're in action. Thank you. But you look like you're maybe not enjoying some of the action but you should be it's called withdrawals that is uh maybe a little how long does that last for oh about uh 22 days now when you go to a doctor do you get like your blood work done they check out all your vitamin levels are and all that stuff sure sure everything diabetes because i'm diabetic, too.
Starting point is 00:37:25 So what do you have to do for that? You got to take a pen, boom, write in. How often do you do that? Takes two seconds, once a day. Is that a recent thing? 25 units. It's two years. Last two years?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Last two years, I've had to take the insulin. Before that, I just had to take the pills. And is that related to, like, diet? Is there a way to turn it around? Very much so. It's very much related. It's almost hereditary and diet are the two things, you know? Damn, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Well, I could see how that would weigh you down. I can see how that would weigh you down. That would fuck with you and make you feel like, you know. The pen thing isn't bad. But, I mean, just the fact that you've got diabetes. I mean, that's a mind fuck. I'd forgotten about it for a couple of days. But, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:38:08 No, I'll be all right, man. I hope you'll be all right. I'll be good. I'm not going nowhere. I don't want you to. I know you don't. I want you to like podcasting, too, because I got excited when you were doing it. I like podcasting.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It's perfect for it. I like it a lot. I like it about as much as I like anything else. So everything's kind of eh. Well, where is that coming from? I didn't a lot. I like it about as much as I like anything else. So everything's kind of... Where's that coming from? I didn't say that. You said you like it as much as you like anything else. Maybe there's some things I go, hey!
Starting point is 00:38:33 You're just too good at it, man. You're too funny. You cannot do it. Do you think it's like a defense mechanism? I don't know, probably. I'm pretty good at that. I'm pretty good at spot-nosed. Listen, if I've noticed nothing else in life, it's that.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah. That Joe Rogan is very perceptive when it comes to getting a laser and getting right to the heart of a comedian. And getting to your ability to play pool. As soon as you start stroking the ball, I said, look at this motherfucker. Oh, you too. You're a great shooter too. Yeah, but I have a table here. I'll tell you one thing that is a little impressive about that.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I have not shot pool in eight months. Easy. I haven't picked up a stick. Well, it makes sense because it took you a couple shots to get loose. Here comes the negativity. No, it's not negative at all. Well, you said it was great shooting. You were.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Listen, I suck at first too. When Regan and I first played. You didn't though. You just kept playing. You walked in after I'd already won a bet. Oh, okay. Well, that's nice of you to admit. No, no, I was knocking balls in the rail.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I'm sure. I couldn't get online. It takes a while to loosen the arm up, you know? I'm sure. Especially if you haven't played in eight months. I haven't played in two days. Yeah. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:39:40 In one week, I won 22 Gs hustling nine ball. Jesus. Greatest week of my life. Where was this? It was a place. A place. But I was 19. Oh, I got me and my buddy Mike set this other kid up. Beat him every time.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Oh, so you had a mark. Here's what would happen. Me and Deidre would pretend we didn't know each other. We'd get in a game with a third guy. Okay? We don't know each other. We're not friends. Let's play three-way, whatever. It's like a movie. 20 bucks on a five, $50 on a guy. Okay? We don't know each other. We're not friends. Let's play three-way, whatever. It's like a movie. 20 bucks on a five, $50 on a nine. Okay? I made sure I went before
Starting point is 00:40:10 Deej. No, Deej made sure he went before me. So every time Deej would go, he'd miss on purpose, but set me up for a perfect shot. First on a five, then on the nine. That's hilarious. So you guys just kept robbing this one dude. Yeah, we won about 11 games in a row.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Wow. Poor bastard. I'm not proud of it. Now, the guy seemed like a bit of an asshole, but we thought, my God, we got the greatest fucking system of all time. And then there was a couple of times he would set me up and I'd miss, and he'd look at me like, what the fuck are you doing? Then one guy, Tommy, I'll never forget this. We called him Red Hair Tommy because he had red hair. And he had like a big, big curly red hair.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And Red Hair Tommy found out what we were doing. He saw us make eye contact. You know what? You motherfuckers know each other. He got his brother. His brother came back with a snowblower. He tried to run us over with a fucking snowblower and pool cues. He threw me over the table.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Wow. But my one buddy's friend was a cop. And he just flashed the guy's badge. The guy got really scared. Ah, those days were fun, Joe. When I first started making money, I got a development deal with Disney, and part of the money I used to back my friend Johnny B. My friend Johnny B. was like a professional level pool player.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Okay. Like a hair off of the pro speed. No kidding. Yeah, but he could win tournaments. He would win tournaments. He could beat a lot of guys. The average person that would play him, he would beat the average guy. He couldn't beat like, it's very rare that he ever beat like a real top pro,
Starting point is 00:41:39 but he beat some lower level pros. He was a really good pool player, but he was a slick motherfucker. Right. And I would take him on the road. We would go all around. We would go to Jersey. We would go to West End Billiards. We were talking about that place.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I know West End, yeah. I'd put him in the tournament. We'd see if we could get a game. And then we'd play at Executive Billiards in Chelsea. Chelsea, which was downtown, which is 24 hours. I know exactly what you're talking about. You know Chelsea Billiards? Yeah, sure. I do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah, so that was my addiction phase. I was badly, badly addicted. I was playing eight hours a day for, like, a bunch of years. I went through a good long phase with Pools, too. Absolutely. It's so fun. It's so fun. It's a blast.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It's a real sort of hand-eye coordination, yet slow. Like, the best thing about the Hustler is they can play for 18 hours and Gleason misses a shot. And he just looks over at the shade and says, would you cut out that light? It's kind of depressing, but you're like a dark, easy hang, and then you leave. Yeah, there are guys who do play those kind of long 24, 38-hour gambling sessions. I don't know if I have that in me. No. I like a few hours of pool.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Those are brutal. That's a young man's game, and it's super unhealthy. To stay up that late trying to concentrate and drink coffee. The great thing about the Hustler is the whole premise was Gleason could shoot no matter how much booze he had. He handled his booze. That was his skill. Whereas Paul Newman... That's George C. Scott.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I was going to handle his booze. Picture those three guys in a movie. How could that be bad? Could that be bad? And Piper Laurie, too. Yeah those three guys in a movie. How could that be bad? Could that be bad? I don't know. It can't be bad. And Piper Laurie, too. Yeah, she was cute back then. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I loved that movie. You owe me money, Terry! Yeah, that's a great fucking movie. Those places just were so interesting. That was what I got addicted to. It's where all the people that didn't follow the rules went. Well, that was Ames Billiards, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:24 That was a legendary place on 14th Street. That shot closed in the mid-70s. But Ames was where, you know, Namath played there. People like Gleason. I'd love to have seen that if it stuck around, but they knocked it down. But Ames was where they shot it. Do you know at the turn of the century in the 1900s, there was something like 1,000 pool halls in New York City?
Starting point is 00:43:43 Wow. Wow. Yeah, it was a thing to do, man. Before video and all that other shit, you shot a game of pool. That's what they did. I mean, people, it's lost favor. People don't understand when video games came along and other games of leisure. Not the same thing because it's really not on a lot of levels human contact.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It's not even indirectly. At least pool is indirectly. Yeah. It's not even close to human contact. As a matter of fact. At least pool is indirectly. Yeah. It's not even close to human contact. As a matter of fact, it's light years away from it. You know what the pool players blame it on a lot? They blame it on casinos, like card casinos opening up. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Because then people who loved to gamble on things, they didn't have to execute. They're like, if you're playing cards, you have to pick the right cards, you have to make the right choices, but you don't have to physically execute, like stroking the ball and missing a shot. Right. All that pressure and nerves fucks with some people, so they don't like it. And they're like, that's what killed the pool game. Yeah. The pressure and nerves.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Pressure and nerves that people didn't want to face up to. There are a lot of them, though. There are a lot of them. Yeah. So, like, attendance in pool halls dropped down. Attendance in these card places. These guys, they didn't have to gamble on pool anymore. Now they can go play legal cards.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And then, of course, that cuts into the pool business. Yeah. It's something about watching a guy shoot a game of pool. Like just dancing around a table, keeping the stick on there, looking around, looking at the angle, bam, bam, bam. One of my good friends is this guy, Max Eberle. Max Eberle is like one of the best players in the world.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And I play with him all the time. It's always frustrating. But just watching him, I can just pick up like little slight things that he does. Just watching him move. Like he always hits the ball the right speed. He's always dead on the next ball at the perfect angle. It's like it's artwork. And what English you put on it.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah, it's artwork. You watch a guy who's just so good at that game, then you appreciate it. But I think it's one of those art forms that's only appreciated by people who practice it. Right. Well, it's like rap. I didn't think rap music was a talent until I heard someone who couldn't rap. I said, okay, that snoot must be good. But it's not on the level of pool.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I mean, pool is a true sort of, you know, a less sophisticated version of chess. You know, it's American chess in a lot of ways. And it's perfect for a bar. It's perfect for young guys to get together and bond on. It's a set-up perfectly game, and you get to use your hand-eye coordination. It's my favorite in the world. I love it. I love it, too.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I wish it would. We need to make it. Make it come back, Artie. Come back and shoot. Next time we'll shoot some pool on TV or something. I'm saying we need to. Yeah, we need to make it. I love it, too. I wish it would. We need to make it. Make a comeback, Artie. Come back and shoot. Next time we'll shoot some pool on TV or something. I'm saying we need to. Yeah, we need to make it. Have a comeback.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Why don't we have a tournament? Let's do it. Joe, don't even fuck with me. I'm not fucking with you. I would love it. I know you will. I would love it. It would be fun.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Look who I'm talking to. Yeah, all right. Well, I'm in. You absolutely let me know when I will play in the pool. Joe, you want to call Rogan's pool tournament? No. Let's come... We'll figure out how to do it.
Starting point is 00:46:28 We'll figure out how to do it, and we can get some other comics to play. Like Fitzsimmons plays, Dom Herrera plays. Yeah. I know DePaulo shoots a pretty good game of pool. Does he? Yeah, sure, yeah. I didn't know. He didn't tell me.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He held it back when he was here. He didn't talk about it. Janine Garofalo is great. I heard. Really? But I heard she... Is it true how she gets rid of the ball?
Starting point is 00:46:47 What the f***? She shoots it like one of those Thai ladies. Those things that Doug Stanhope talks about. Can you imagine if that was the handicap? You know, people are always making crazy bets like, you know, you have to shoot every shot with the plastic bridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 What if it was like, you can play but you have to shoot it with your pussy. Stuff that ball out there and launch it. That's called America. There's a woman out there somewhere in the world that can knock pool balls in with her pussy. For sure. Right? Yeah, her name's Mrs. Lange. I'd like that.
Starting point is 00:47:20 There must be. Right? Don't you think? I mean, someone's figured that out. This has to be a genre of porn I guess thousand videos dedicated to like billiards coming out of girls vagina I hope so we can only hope that happen but by the time you think of something like that for sure that's already been done I mean they've thinking them own the most depraved shit in porn these days I would
Starting point is 00:47:39 imagine they would be playing pool with pool balls coming out of girls I don't know that's gonna run That's kind of rough. Maybe there's smaller balls, like maybe snooker. Snooker, as my English friends would say. That's an interesting one. That's a smaller ball. That might not be a dungeon. Yeah. Have you ever watched a game of snooker?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Do you know what the fuck they're doing? Yeah, sure. I've been in them. You played snooker? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to say it. Note how I'm saying it correctly. Snooker.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Very difficult. Looks insane. Very difficult. Very difficult. Well, those guys become pool players, and they always do really well, like almost right away. But no pool players go over to snooker and start winning
Starting point is 00:48:11 big-time tournaments. They've had some snooker players from Europe come over and clean up. Win the World Ten Ball Championships. This guy Tony Drago. Killer snooker player. I'd like to watch a whole game, but it gets a little boring without the pockets. I really am excited about Pacquiao and Mayweather, though.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's the first big boxing match. I just like boxing so much. It's a fascinating fight. Yeah. I can't wait. I would wonder. It's really interesting to see what strategy Pacquiao employs, whether he just goes at Mayweather the way he goes at everybody else.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Just fast, a lot of movement, a lot of rapid combinations, a lot of angles. Right, right. You know him and Freddie Roach have been preparing for this guy forever. They're both going to be prepared. I like Mayweather's a little bigger, and I think he wants it more,
Starting point is 00:48:58 and I think he's quicker. I think Mayweather's quicker than Pacquiao. Well, he's very clever. It's very, very hard to get to. Yeah, you know, it's very very hard you know how to play head games especially in this country what are you showing found uh this woman shoots a pool ball out of her vagina and hits the eight ball into the corner pocket so we can't show that's a chip for my movie don't play it all right it's real quick it's real quick you stream we'll get upset
Starting point is 00:49:18 at us i knew it was gonna happen yeah here we go and it's coming oh good lord knocks the yeah well see there you go that's that That's the pitching machine from my movie. I love the fact that that's real. Yeah. You know, we were right. Absolutely. It's easy to figure out. You all right?
Starting point is 00:49:33 I'm stretching. You want this chair instead, by the way? This chair is way more comfortable. You don't like that chair? Is that what it is? I'm fine. It's ergonomic. I'm stretching.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Oh, that feels good. How do people sign up for your podcast? Artiequitter.com. One word. A-R-T-I-E. Quitter. And how many times? This is you guys right here.
Starting point is 00:49:55 How many times do you guys do it a week? Four. Oh, really? Monday through Thursday, yeah. And there's a special code. If you punch in the code, you get a month of the podcast for free. Unless, of course, you know an 8-year-old who would get on YouTube and you can get it for nothing all the time. Nothing all the time.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Here's the code to get the free month. It's Atlantic 14. Atlantic 14? Is that it? Atlantic 14? Atlantic 14. Okay, for a free month of Artie's podcast, go to Atlantic 14. And how much does it cost a month? $6.99.
Starting point is 00:50:27 $6.95. Well, I guarantee you're going to get people to subscribe, but I guarantee you you would also get a shitload of people to listen to you online, just if it was free, and then you just get ads for it. You just need to be connected with the right people. Alright. Why $6.95 and not $7? Why not?
Starting point is 00:50:44 That sounds better. I don't know. It's like movies. I didn't come up with any of this shit. Yeah. I know. That is a weird thing, these uneven numbers for trickery to make you think it's not 7 Because it doesn't sound like 7, you fool. People are like, oh, well, it's not 7.
Starting point is 00:50:56 It's crazy. Who is in charge of picking your number? Who picked that number? I don't know. Some guy. I hired a couple of guys. And he's like, I'm going to fool them all. He said to me,
Starting point is 00:51:06 $6.95? I'm like, yeah, that's fine. Whatever. Oh, it's one of those situations. I'd like to see some test studies where they actually got like 200 people and say, hey, it's either $7 or $6.95 and see how many people actually, that was the deciding factor. You know what? That sounds too high. It is. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:51:23 People have said that. Yeah, sure like psychologically yeah there's i mean it's not a coincidence they do it all the time we could either feed our hamster or sign up for me well a lot of being broke especially when you're worried about how much this costs or that costs and like really minding your pennies a lot of it is psychological you're like man i want to get that fucking thing but shit can i afford it fuck? I'm just gonna go for it It's only 695 you know that's why you should just do like 495 plus 2 Maybe because that first you'd be like 4 sounds way better cues plus just cute Confuse the fuck out of you had two small numbers equal the same number 495 plus $2
Starting point is 00:52:04 What are you looking for? Oh, did you get unplugged? It's getting crazy here, ladies and gentlemen. Artie Lang is just moving about like a wild man, knocking chords out. Thinking about going on the road with his nine ball game. There we go. Beautiful. We got it.
Starting point is 00:52:21 We're back? All right. We're back. Yeah. I'm thinking you, me, Fitzsimmons, and Dom Herrera. We do a goddamn pool tournament. We do it live on the internet. We get a sponsor.
Starting point is 00:52:33 We have some fun. We talk some shit. It's safe to say I would, without question, say yes to that. That would be a lot of fun. There's no doubt about it. That's totally a good thing to do. Now that I know you play really good, and Adam Ferrara, like I said, he plays really good, too. Fitzsimmons plays
Starting point is 00:52:47 really good. And Dom can play. Bring him on! Bring him on, says Adi Lang. Come on, I'm ready. Alright, we're gonna do that. We'll do a comedy slash pool podcast with the four of us. We'll do it right out here. You can even do shows at pool halls. Like, I've been to pool halls where there's stages.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It's too loud. What do you mean, like comedy like comedy shows yeah like do a comedy show and then play pool no because then you're doing a comedy show to a pool hall like don't you want to do a comedy show at a comedy club like that's what you want to do comedy you don't want to do comedy at a pool hall with a bunch of people watching various games at the bar and talking shit mad that they missed the eight like fucking cunt in the middle of your set you have to deal with that i'd like that yeah i think like this place like where it's nice and quiet private that's where you want to do it you want to do it out of pool well i'm in you let me know yeah all right i can play better than you think so you played good i could tell i mean i could tell when ping pong oh ping pong yeah i
Starting point is 00:53:42 don't know how to play that it It's the same thing as pool. It's just hand-eye coordination. Yeah, but you have to practice it. Oh, you'll be fine. Yeah, you practice everything. I can see how much you love gambling when we started playing for money. I can tell the little fire inside your eyes. No, no, that's when I bring it on, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I do. That's life's instant excitement. Put double your net worth on a Virginia Tech game on a Tuesday, and you watch the fireworks fly. Have you done that? Yeah. What's the biggest bet you've ever placed? I won $140,000 on the Super Bowl 2007.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Wow. But after everything, the hooker, the commission, the, you know, I got back on the plane, I did the math, I was down five grand. Jeez. What kind of hooker was that. I was down five grand. Jeez. What kind of hooker was that? I need that kind of hooker. That's hilarious. Motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:54:36 You pop it out again? That must have been one fucking... How many days did that take? Three. Jesus Christ. So you were burning through. I'm going nuts. Forget it. It's whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Just burning through. Whatever badness came about. Wow. I love that. You should write a book about just that weekend. I wrote two of them. They're both bestsellers. What do you mean about that one particular weekend?
Starting point is 00:55:02 Oh, that'll call you. That should be a whole book by itself. I should do a third one. That's hilarious. Yeah. That is fucking hilarious. God damn, dude. So that's the most you've ever won.
Starting point is 00:55:12 That's the most I ever lost. That's the most you've ever lost, too. Around the same area? Right, exactly, because the night I ended up down. Well, if you're betting that high, man, if you go bad, if you have a weird week, shit can get real ugly. Yeah. The worst part is to win a couple of times, man. It hooks you. You get fired up again.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah, it hooks you and then boom, before you know it. So what is it? It's just playing that chemical rush game of knowing you could lose a hundred grand and then you do win. It's a physical rush, without question. So does it get, does it, like, pull you? Do you, like, you feel like if you haven't bet in a while,
Starting point is 00:55:49 do you feel like you need to place a bet? Does it, like, start pulling at you? No, not for me. I'm not like that. But when I go somewhere and something reminds me of it, I can put one down, and then that could start, like, a binge going. I never sit at home craving I've got to bet on something. Let's say she's a line in the paper and everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:56:05 To me, what I'm getting out of Artie Lang, because I love you, is that you're a talented guy that loves pleasure. That's what it is. Pleasure and excitement. I like something, I like feeling something. Yeah. It doesn't have to be pleasure. And this gambling thing, that's like cutting.
Starting point is 00:56:21 That goes deep down to the nerves. It's the best thing in the world. Me and Norm MacDonald used to do this thing called lightning bet, which is literally heroin for gamblers. You know what the under-over is? You ever hear that?
Starting point is 00:56:37 Anybody here know what the under-over is? Like I say, you're betting a basketball game. And the under-over for the basketball game is 180 points, which that means is the total amount of points that each team scores has to come total over 180. Then you win. If the total number that they score is below 180, you lose. Hence, over under. you lose, hence over-under. So a lightning bet is you assign a number, an amount of money to each point that the bet goes over or under, which means if you lightning bet $1,000 on an over at 180,
Starting point is 00:57:19 once you hit the over, I get the chill saying this, once you hit the over, every single basket that gets hit in the game, you win $1,000. Wow. Every, from both teams? Both teams. Oh, my God. A basket from the field is two grand. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:57:38 A three-pointer is three grand. Every single basket. Three grand for everything. It's $1,000. Oh, my God. So, like, the shakes you start to get while you're watching are literally, like, they're visible. It's almost like, you know, you're having a conniption. And you have drinks, maybe Cokes, and they'll calm you down.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And every time a shot goes up, it's like, a thousand dollars! Two thousand dollars! And to me, it's the purest form of degenerate gambling I've ever seen. Wow. I've ever seen. I've ever seen. I wasn't even aware that existed. Norm and I was on the road once for six months. I was opening for him. It was during the basketball playoffs.
Starting point is 00:58:13 We had about 40 Gs on every game. God! Wasn't Norm the one we just talked about that had that famous story where he threw the money in the ocean because he knew he was going to lose it? Was that Norm? Yeah. He decided to throw it out because he thought it would just make him lose more but that might have very well been urban legend yeah yeah well a lot of this could be urban legend who knows no not from you i'm saying from i didn't hear it from norm i agree that that could be you no and i agree
Starting point is 00:58:39 that could be urban legend absolutely well everyone knows he's just a wild maniac yeah he's one of the funniest smartest human beings I've ever met but he's got a true edge and a true danger and that's what happens I love him he's a rock star man he's a bad motherfucker rock star he's hilarious he's hilarious and he's he's also like that's really him it's not putting on an act. You know, when he hosted the ESPYs in 2001, O.J. Simpson was just forced to give his Heisman Trophy back to Fred Goldman because O.J. lost the civil suit. So he had to give money reparations back to Fred Goldman and Nicole. So he didn't have any money, so he said,
Starting point is 00:59:17 take my Heisman Trophy, whatever that's worth. So Fred Goldman takes it, and now he owns it. So the next week, the ESPY week, Norm hosts the ESPYs. Charles Woodson, the guy who won the Heisman Trophy, the first defensive guy ever sitting in the front row. First joke Norm tells, he looks in the front row and he says, Hey, Charles Woodson, man, you won the Heisman Trophy. No one can ever take that away from you.
Starting point is 00:59:39 First defensive guy to win the Heisman Trophy. No one can ever take that away from you. And everybody applauds. It's like a real nice thing. And it settles down on the normal coast. No one can ever take that Heisman Trophy away. And then he pauses and says, unless, of course, you kill your wife in a waiter.
Starting point is 00:59:58 How's that go over? It bombed. Did it really? Well, it was, yeah, it was at Radio City. It was like Ken Griffey Jr. was, yeah, it was a radio studio. It was like Ken Griffey Jr. was on the front. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:11 What did they expect? It's Norm fucking McDonald. Well, maybe not that, but it makes me love him even more. Norm and I talked. We sat next to each other randomly on an airplane. Talked the whole way back. Just shot the shit. Talked about all kinds of stuff. I was like, yeah, I quit smoking a while ago.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Just done with it. And for whatever reason, the plane lands and he goes, man, I just want a cigarette. He just walks in this door. He hadn't smoked in like X amount of months, but just decided from talking about it on the airplane, how he quit smoking, that he just wanted another cigarette. He just grabbed it, went outside and he's just smoking there. I go, what happened? I go, I thought you quit smoking. He goes, I did. cigarette. He just grabbed it, went outside, and he's just smoking it. I go, what happened? I go, I thought you quit smoking.
Starting point is 01:00:47 He goes, I did. I did until just now. I just wanted a cigarette. The movie, me and him, I did a buddy comedy with him, and it got bad reviews. So the reviewer in my hometown paper said, Artie Lang has all the charm of a date rapist. True line. So Norm looks at it, and he calls me up and he goes, hey man, that's fucking great.
Starting point is 01:01:08 A date rapist has to have way more charm than a regular rapist. I love it. That's so great. God bless that man. That made me feel better. Norm is the coolest motherfucker on the planet. I love him, and he's funny, and I hope he doesn't die broke.
Starting point is 01:01:29 No, he's just a real special dude. He's a very unusual guy. I've got to get him on this podcast. I just never see him. You'd have a blast, of course. When I was on the plane with him, he didn't even have a cell phone back then. I've got an answering machine. They can get me there and call me back when I want to.
Starting point is 01:01:44 That's how it should be anyway. Who cares? They can get me there, you know, and call me back when I want to. That's how it should be anyway. Who cares? They can call me back if they want. Yeah, I mean, it is how it should be, I guess, unless someone needs to get a hold of you right now. Well, for doctors, lawyers, kids, I guess it's good. Everything else, who cares? What about gambling?
Starting point is 01:02:00 Noddy, the line is hot. I know. I'd rather not know for a while. You had genuine disdain for me in your eyes when I told you that I didn't watch sports. I really saw it in your eyes. Well, no, because I thought you did watch sports. I know. You were disappointed.
Starting point is 01:02:13 But you play sports, though. I don't. I just martial arts. Okay. That's a sport, right? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, are you a box? I played sport, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I thought, well, me and you first met at Mad TV a long time ago. I thought you told me that you played second baser. You played baseball. Oh, I did before I started martial arts. But that was when I was like 15. I didn't have to stay. And I'm like, all right, what do you want from me? You and I had a conversation about boxing because you played my boxing manager on MADtv.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's actually a very good sketch. It was not bad. It was shot in black and white. But we talked a lot of boxing. Yeah, because we bonded on it, sure. I love boxing. No, I enjoyed, I became friends with you and Callan from that show. Callan's one of my best friends.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Brian's a good man, man. He's a great guy, and he loves you, too. He'll always say great things about you. Brian and I have a very special friendship. I love that motherfucker. He's a good guy, and I hope he's doing well. Tell him I said hello. I will, for sure.
Starting point is 01:03:09 But it was one of those things. It was like you two guys were like, you were like, when I got on that show, it was like I saw a lot of competition and a lot of competitive angst, but it was you two guys. They were like regular guys that were cool to hang with, and it was like real normal and comfortable. No Hollywood bullshit. No, thanks. Well, it's a fun place to work, And it was like real normal and comfortable. No Hollywood bullshit. No, thanks.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Well, it's a fun place to work. And it was good to have somebody like you come on so we could just really fuck around. But that show lasted 14 years. God bless it. That's amazing. I still get checks. That's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Well, you know that Mad Magazine. I mean, that's about as iconic. It's a juggernaut. Yeah, it's a juggernaut. Absolutely. I mean, that shit was around in like the 60s or the 70s or something, right? 50s probably. 50s?
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah. Yeah. I think it was Billy Corbin was saying that he used to have all the Mad magazines. He went away to college. His mom threw them out. He had like every episode. I'm cleaning all the clutter. He tossed out these fucking icons of American history.
Starting point is 01:04:02 I mean, Mad magazine is like, I used to read that shit. My parents used to buy that when I was a little kid. That's been around forever. I was big with puns, you know. We'd always have to pitch puns, and I would pitch them as a joke, thinking they'd never do it. And sometimes they would do it, and I'm like, wait, I was kidding.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Like, I would pitch stuff like Andre Dawson's Creek. He was a baseball player. Rush Limbaugh sings Rush songs. They wouldn't do that. That's hilarious. Tori Amos and Ami. They wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I mean, just make it easier. Do you ever see yourself doing a sketch show again, or is it just too much work? It's a young man's game. It is. I look back at those sketches on MADtv, and I'm like, oh make it easier. Do you ever see yourself doing a sketch show again, or is it just too much work? It's a young man's game. It is. I look back at those sketches on my TV, and I'm like, oh, my God, how did I do that? Did you like doing that sports show? It's like the show with you and Nick was mostly sports. Yeah, I loved it.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I loved it. Nick and I had a lot of fun. We got to talk about sports, be funny and everything. And, of course, the corporate people tried to make it something that wasn't. They wanted a more conservative show. And I can't blame them, but you didn't hire me to do SportsCenter, did you? Why'd they hire
Starting point is 01:05:11 you to do a conservative show? That's ridiculous. Because it's probably one in the long line of bad business decisions that they've made. Yeah, but you guys weren't that outrageous. It wasn't so off the charts crazy. No, we weren't. I think they just, the certain little things we said, you know, might not be considered proper
Starting point is 01:05:27 English they got mad at. See, that's the beauty, that's where the beauty of podcasting comes in. Like you said, when he sat down. And I love, look, everybody who signed up for me already is, God bless you. I appreciate it. Hope people
Starting point is 01:05:44 will more, but this is the first time I am appreciate it. I hope people will more. But this is the first time I am uncensored, completely and utter uncensored. I got nobody telling me what to do. Yeah. Nobody. So it'll be fun. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And you, like, because of your tweets, you know, because of the funny shit that you've been saying, like, you're in a good place comedically right now. You're hitting high notes. I just did a special. I did a special i did a yeah everything i've done in the last year i've liked so you know so is that what's like bringing you the most joy like at this stage like the stand-up i guess yeah yeah it seems like it's
Starting point is 01:06:16 like the most pure right you get that burst of one hour you know you get it out yeah there's nothing like stand-up man it's nothing like grabbing a mic and saying something, and in the mic you get the immediate reaction. You get a check, and you get the hell out of there. Everything else takes forever. Have you ever thought about doing a Vegas residency? Not for a long time, no. I've been there for two weeks, not longer than two weeks. You wouldn't do it?
Starting point is 01:06:40 It depends on the cash, man. I'm seeing you and your gambling in Vegas, and someone putting you up in a casino, dude I'm telling you that me a price wild fucking ride. Give me a price baby. If you really want to go out like one of those July Those fireworks shows at Disney in July when they really go off right around the fourth. Just just just give me a number Brian Regan who's in here earlier. He lives in Vegas, but he doesn't work in Vegas. He works on the road. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:10 He lives, but does technically live in Vegas? Technically lives just outside of Vegas, in one of those suburban towns, but he doesn't perform in Vegas at all. Wow. Wait, really? Yep. What? That's nuts. Well, his kids live there.
Starting point is 01:07:26 So he doesn't want to perform near where his kids live. Yeah, Brian Regan, one of the best comedians ever, was just in there. It was a pleasure to meet Brian. Thank you. I can't believe you'd never met him before. That's crazy. Never met Brian. He is one of my absolute fucking heroes. Yeah, he's a great guy. Unreal. Clean and good and
Starting point is 01:07:41 original. Unreal. Yeah. He reminds me of Gaffigan in that sense, where they're completely squeaky clean, but undeniably two of the best comics in the world. Like, Gaffigan doesn't lose anything for being squeaky clean. Right. His comedy is just, he just smashes it every time. Like, he doesn't have to be dirty. Yeah, they're the same types of guys.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Yeah, that's what they do. You know, that's why the beauty of comedy with a lot of these guys is, like, you have to find out who the fuck they are. Like Mitch Hedberg, perfect example. That's not, like, a model. You can't, like, say, like, oh, a Hedberg type before he existed. You couldn't, like, nail that down. The closest you would get is, like, maybe Stephen Wright, kind of.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Right. But not really. Hedberg had his own thing. I know. And he didn't want to stick around to see what happened. Yeah. You know, I don't think he was, it was that much of an accident with him, unfortunately. No, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Well, after he, you know, he'd had one health scare from the heroin, and then, like, he was getting gangrene or something crazy from shooting at the same spot. That's what happens. You can smell it, too. You know, like, Bruce getting gangrene or something crazy from shooting at the same spot. That's what happens. You can smell it, too. You know, getting on a plane.
Starting point is 01:08:51 What's it smell like? Oh, I'm not sure. I've never smelled it. I would imagine not good, like any sort of... Well, you're dealing with rotting tissue.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Yeah, it's got to be like a dead mouse under the couch or something. Yeah, something like that, probably along those lines rotting tissue. Yeah, it's got to be like a dead mouse under the couch or something. Yeah, something like that, probably along those lines. Dead tissue. Yeah, too bad, man. What a funny fucking guy he was.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Jesus Christ. Uniquely funny. A lot of funny people, yeah. Yeah, that one guy that just overdosed last week. I didn't know that kid. Did you know that kid? No, I never met him. Yeah, I met him through Taylor Vixen back in the day.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah. And he followed me. I followed him type thing. We talked a few times. Then I saw him at the clubs a few times. What was his name again? What was his name? Little.
Starting point is 01:09:35 What was it? Harris Whittles. Harris Whittles. Harris Whittles. Poor bastard. He was a nice guy. He seemed like a really nice guy. I was actually going to have him on a podcast, but then
Starting point is 01:09:45 he became an executive producer of that Parks and Rec show, and I was like, oh, this guy's never... Yeah, I heard he was a really good comic, too. I heard he was a very funny writer. I heard that from everybody. Those goddamn pills, man. Is that how it was? It was the pills?
Starting point is 01:10:01 How old was he? Was it pills? I was told that Yeah. How old was he? I heard it. Was it pills? Because I was told that he was into heroin. Oh, really? Yeah, but it's the same thing. One leads to the other. Yeah, I mean, you might be right, but I had heard it was pills. Well, it's, you know, that's what you're getting when you're taking opiates.
Starting point is 01:10:17 You're basically getting the same stuff. I mean, it's hillbilly heroin. That's why they call it that. Yeah, the scary part of it is the ingredient they put in it fucks with your liver. Not everything does that. Tylenol has it. Percocet has it. But stuff like Xanax and stuff don't have it for some reason.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I have no idea why. But your liver goes way quicker if you take Percocet or something else. When did you have your first experience with opiates? Oh, man. I was probably 14. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:10:51 So what was that feeling like? It was all right. It felt good. It threw up a little bit, you know. Wow. And then I was at an ACDC concert in 1981, back in black. And I took a little and it was great.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Sniff? Concert never felt that good in my life. No sniffing. I wasn't sniffing anything. How'd you take it? I go like this. I just took it on my tongue.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Really? Yeah. That's all you would do? You just put it on your tongue? When I was 14. Wow. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:24 It dissolved and was like, whoa. That's what did to my friend Johnny. He started out with a lot of it was uppers, a lot of coke. Started out with a lot of coke and crack and things along those lines. And then somewhere along the line it shifted to heroin. Well, that's what happens because heroin's cheaper. It's better for your liver. You know, the natural thing. And then, bam, that's what happens because heroin's cheaper and it's better for your liver. You know, the natural thing
Starting point is 01:11:46 and then bam, that fucks you too. It's better for your liver than coke? Yes. No. No. Pills are worse for your liver
Starting point is 01:11:56 than any powder. Powder doesn't have to go through your liver. Wow. 14, man. That's insane. Yeah. When did it become like a regular thing? Like, how old did you become when it was a regular thing? 18. Wow. 14, man. That's insane. Yeah. When did it become, like, a regular thing?
Starting point is 01:12:06 Like, how old did you become when it was a regular thing? 18. Wow. Something like that. Now 17. 17, 17. So you have, like, periods where you stopped, and then periods got back on. But, yeah, I could never have done in my career what I did early on if I was on.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah. No way. Didn't make sense. You can't function. Yeah. You can't function. Yeah. You can't function. Wow. So when you see like this, how many people get prescribed it today, and you know how
Starting point is 01:12:33 much of a pull it has on people. When you see, I mean, they're prescribing it to people all the time. People have injuries. And up until recently. Well, it depends on the injury. If you really broke your back, you know, and your loved one's there, they don't want you sitting there with a broken back. If they really need it, they really need it.
Starting point is 01:12:49 The problem is you've got to go to a great doctor who knows how to wean you off it right because if they don't do it, you'll be in withdrawals when you get out, and then you're physically addicted to it. That's the problem. You're physically. Charlie Parker, the old saxophonist, said something. He said they can get it out of your blood, but they can't get it out of your brain. You know, you keep remembering what it felt like.
Starting point is 01:13:09 I mean, that's the problem. My friend Brendan Schaub is a guy who fights for the UFC. He was on the podcast recently talking about how he got his nose reconstructed. He broke his nose in a fight. He couldn't fight for a while, and he got hooked on pain pills. It's like they prescribed him to him, and he started taking them. Before he knew it, he was taking six a day and he's taking them every day. And after the
Starting point is 01:13:27 reconstruction's done, he just can't stop taking them. It was for months. Yeah, it's a shame. And he's not that guy. And that destroys your liver. You might as well get a fungo bed out and just hit your liver with it. That many pills? Bam, bam, bam. And especially if you have some booze with them, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Is that the only way to party, though? The booze? You gotta mix it? With the pills. Yeah, just, bam. And especially if you have some booze with them, fuck it. Fuck it, right. Is that the only way to party, though? The booze? You got to mix it? With the pills. Yeah, just don't. Why is that more dangerous? Why is it more dangerous to mix booze with pills? Because it's a combination.
Starting point is 01:13:55 It's like bam, bam. It's like a one-two punch. It's like an overdose type of thing. It's a one-two punch, man. A little water, a little wine. You marinate your liver. Jesus Christ. Done it plenty of times.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Did you ever do it and make bets that you forgot about and then wake up in the morning with like a stub in your pocket going, what the fuck did I put on? I used to do that with,
Starting point is 01:14:13 I told that story before, I used to do that with Monday Night Football. I would bet at 5 o'clock and then I'd go drinking and I would be drunk and I would call the bookie again at 7.30,
Starting point is 01:14:23 so drunk, and all I would do is bet on the other team. And so all I could do was lose the VIG, the tax for losers. So I lose the VIG the next day. I call the book up, and I go, dude, what the fuck did you let me do that for? And he actually said this to me. He said, you got to learn a life lesson.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I said, thanks, Mr. Book. Your bookie's giving you life lessons thanks for sticking out that's hilarious that's hilarious unbelievable already lying you've had a goddamn colorful life yeah they don't make a dude like you the easy way no i haven't been easy that's why you're you man you know that's the beautiful thing about life What I was saying earlier about hanging out in pool halls Like you meet so many crazy, interesting characters You do, you do And it's fun
Starting point is 01:15:12 That's why it makes sense that you could play pool Well, the problem is you need a balance And I could win a lot of money off those other people too Although I'm still a dirtbag Well, that hustle that you guys had was pretty strong That's it that was that never failed except the one time i came never failed think about it your buddy sets it up it's like boom yeah baboon he just bobbles it just hits the point of the pocket and leaves it there he's like pete carroll on the fucking seahorse oh man that's hilarious that you were doing that for so long
Starting point is 01:15:43 how many times you guys think you played that? Played what? Did that hustle? In seven years, probably 3,000 times. You're just robbing people. No, we're just gambling. That's not gambling. You're tricking them.
Starting point is 01:16:05 You're tricking them. I used it for the right thing. It's smart, though. Look, it's a clever move. It's America. It's America. It is. It's America.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Free enterprise. Come on, sweetie. Give me a break. Have you ever gotten in trouble for gambling? Is there a way, like, did they ever try to get you to tell who your bookie is? Yes, I got arrested for gambling once, and my buddy, the two, and we both kind of dummied up, and they let us go. You dummied up? I mean, you didn't know?
Starting point is 01:16:28 I don't know. I don't know what to say. And they eventually have to let you go? Monkey no see, monkey no do. How long did they keep you for? Three hours. I mean, three days. Three days for gambling?
Starting point is 01:16:39 Yeah. That's hilarious. Why'd you get caught? Well, suspicion of gambling. Suspicion of gambling! Yeah, yeah, gambling. Three days. What a country. Like Yakov Smirnoff says.
Starting point is 01:16:49 They wanted to get somebody bigger. And I just thought, to be honest with you, I was much more afraid of the other person than the cops. I just was. So I said, they have nothing on me. The lawyer said they have nothing. You might get three days. Just sit here and shut up. So every time that somebody asks me, I go, you know, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:17:06 You gambling with this guy? I'm like, no, I'm gambling. I don't gamble. I mean, I literally say, I don't know. So how did you get caught? Like, what was the circumstance? The place got raided. The pool.
Starting point is 01:17:20 So you guys were playing cards? No, pool. Pool. Suspicion of gambling pool? All, pool. Pool. We're all shooting pool. Suspicion of gambling pool. All shooting pool. Wow. Three days? It was a major ring.
Starting point is 01:17:30 This happened in the 40s? And there was card tables in the back. Oh. Card tables in the back. Oh, okay. So it was a sweep. They were trying to get all the connected folk in the neighborhood. You can smoke that if you want.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Let's face it, Joe. It was a setup. You think so? Someone inside? I still don't trust a couple of people. Tell me more. Motherfucker. Those motherfuckers. John used to have a guy who announced all the games
Starting point is 01:17:54 on the radio. His name was Jim Gordon. And so you'd have a bet on the game. And if you made a mistake, if you had a ton of bet on the game and he was on the radio, if he made mistakes, you didn't know what the fuck was going on. And, you know, it would get nerve-wracking. So, you know, you'd have all this money on the game,
Starting point is 01:18:10 and here's what Jim Gordon would say. Sims drops back looking for a receiver. He's going way deep, long, long, way down for Baker, baby! Touchdown, Giants! No, he dropped it! And then you get, physical pain. And then you get Mega takes the ball on his own, 32. He crossed midfield, 45-40, 35-30. He's got one man to beat the kicker. He's by the kicker. He'll score! No, he stepped out of the five! One time, I had $500 to my name
Starting point is 01:18:46 I put $1,000 on a giant game And here's what this cocksucker said On the fucking fuck radio Giants have the ball Fourth and goal from the one Tune in the one setback Hand off Maybe
Starting point is 01:19:02 He's in Wait No Maybe. He's in. Wait. No. I can't see it. Now word from Toyota. Toyota. That's what that motherfucker did.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Listening to sports on the radio While you're gambling Has got to be one of the craziest fucking things ever Very difficult to do Well that's how people did it Back in the old days they had the Joe Frazier fights On the radio, Frazier with the right hand Down goes Frazier
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah that was on the radio Down goes Frazier Joe Lewis and Max Schmelling at the Garden. Exactly. Yeah, they used to have those events where people would huddle over the radio and listen to sporting events. My grandfather used to do that with baseball. They used to hover over the right field fence with their legs waiting to charge the field before the last out was made. Their leg was in play.
Starting point is 01:20:02 That's certainly not allowed. Yeah, certainly not allowed. My grandfather used to do that, especially games that weren't on television. He would listen to them on the radio, sit in front of his fucking couch, listen to the radio on a Yankee game. Wow. Be very connected to what happened there. Very excited about it.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Was he a Yankee fan? Yeah. There was some gambling in my family. My grandmother was involved in running the numbers, and she got arrested, and she wouldn't rat them out. So they put her in jail for six months. No kidding. She would make sweaters for the guards. Damn it, that's a woman.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Damn it, that's a woman. She was fresh off the boat. She came here when she was a young girl. When you come here when you're a young girl and you grow up with that first generation immigrant family, that's a different kind of animal. God bless her.
Starting point is 01:20:49 You don't rap people out back then, are you? Of course you don't. That's what I'm saying. I'm not talking to you. I'm sorry. I think you have another show that you have to get to. I don't want you to leave, though. I'm telling you, everything's a big fucking arrangement.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Is that what it is? You got a bunch of people telling you what to do You can smoke that just smoke it. You don't have to stuff it in Can I? Well, I'm not gonna smoke it. I got no fucking there's a lighter. I threw you a lighter. Joe not now. I'm sorry Thank you. Here. Here's a There's one beside you. There's a little Thank you very much. We have an air cleaner on right now. Probably not that good I'm gonna watch the smoke drift. Well, see if it goes towards the air cleaner at all. I Probably is not that good I'm going to watch the smoke drift
Starting point is 01:21:25 See if it goes towards the air cleaner at all I blew it towards me I'm sorry Where are you supposed to go after this Well this has been something else I actually have a dinner with somebody Special Let's just say it's a very special person
Starting point is 01:21:42 Let's just say I'm having dinner With someone who's named Well his name rhymes with Shmeom Neeson. Oh, wow. That's cool. I'm playing a vigilante. Interesting. In a film. Are you the mastermind of the organization that leads him to his daughter that's been kidnapped?
Starting point is 01:21:58 No, I play a cabbie he kills in the first three seconds. He snaps my neck. Wow. He's kicking people's asses at 80. A lot. I mean, it's like he's really cashing them. He snaps my neck. Wow. He's kicking people's asses at 80. A lot. I mean, it's like he's really cashing them. He's cashing them. But what an unlikely scenario.
Starting point is 01:22:10 The guy becomes an action star deep into his 50s, I think, or his 60s. Yeah, after his wife dies. Yeah. How weird. All of a sudden, he's kicking everybody's ass. Like all these Taken movies. I have a very special set of skills. Where was all that before
Starting point is 01:22:25 this before he was like you know a reasonable man in movies hey you talk about obnoxious people rob schneider so rob schneider was going to do a movie with steven seagal right he told this story on stern and he goes into the seagal's uh dressing room seagal comes out of the back and he says to Rob Schneider I just read the greatest script ever written. And Rob Schneider said
Starting point is 01:22:55 my god that's great who wrote it? And he said I did. You never know who you're going to run into. Those guys exist. And they exist out here. More than anywhere. You never know who you're going to run into. Those guys exist. Yeah, they do. And they exist out here in abundance. More than anywhere.
Starting point is 01:23:10 More than anywhere. Because 50% of this town works. The other 50% fucks the 50% town that works wives. Whoa. Strong words. Thank you so much. I think there's definitely a lot of people out here that are like that, though. There's a lot of boars in the world. There are. How do you stop that? here that are like that, though. There's a lot of boars in the world. There are.
Starting point is 01:23:25 How do you stop that? How do we prevent that, Artie? You try to hang out with the right clique of people. Right. And if someone gives you shit, you repeat the mantra my therapist told me in the late 70s. Which is, of course, your verbal bullets are nothing against my armor of self-confidence. Wow. Strong words.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Remember that one. That should be, like, on Instagram. Next time you're feeling down words. Remember that one. That should be like on Instagram. Next time you're feeling down, just remember that one. There will be a photo of you, I predict, that someone will put up on Instagram
Starting point is 01:23:49 with those words and you smiling, holding a cigarette. I told my mother, if she ever died, I'm going to put three words on her tombstone. She said,
Starting point is 01:24:00 bitch could cook. That's all you need. Your Instagram had a photo of her with some of the food she cooked for your Super Bowl party. It was a big aluminum tray. Oh, no. What was that? If you're ever anywhere near my house, you have to come to the Super Bowl. Sausage and peppers, meatballs with fried green peppers, galamad and rigatoni with meat sauce, a little salad.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Dude, I'll fly in. And of course some bread, a little onsalade. I'm getting excited. I got a quick fucking shoot. I help you out with a lot of things, Hendry. Come on. Come on, Hendry. I'm worried about you.
Starting point is 01:24:42 You may fold on the questioning. Dude, I'll fly in for that. What do you want? The leg or the wing? I'll tell you what. You fly in for that, I'll fly in for the... The pool tournament? Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:54 The pool tournament. It's a deal. The pool tournament I'm so in, you have no idea. I know you're in. No idea. I can see. I've watched you play today. You play good.
Starting point is 01:25:01 And you too. Me and you will be in a flash. We'll shoot some pool. I'll say that to Dom. And they might fucking... Are they good? Are they good. And you too. Me and you will be in a flash. We'll shoot some pool. I'll say that to Dom. And they might fucking. Are they good? Are they good? Are you guys good?
Starting point is 01:25:09 No. Dom is good, though. Not these guys. But Dom's good. And Adam Farrar is pretty good. And Greg Fitzsimmons is good. But these guys, not so good. I'm in.
Starting point is 01:25:19 But you're the front runner. And Farrar can get out pretty good, too. But Greg can get out, too. Greg can get out. All right. Pocket pool can get out too. Greg can get out. All right. Pocket pool, I'm good. I'm in, man. You are.
Starting point is 01:25:28 You're like a world champion, right? He's a pocket pool ace. Ace in the hole. In all honesty, I'm in, and please, I'd love to see you back east, but Joe, thanks for supporting me too, man, for that bullshit. I appreciate it, man.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Listen, you are a real comic, and I love you. I love your personality. I love you. Let it all hang out. We go back a long time, man. Listen, you are a real comic, and I love you. I love your personality. I love you. Let it all hang out. We go back a long time, man. Sketch at 95, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:52 It was a long time, but you've always been cool. I've always enjoyed your company. Thanks, John. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. And what is Artie Quitter? What is that? It's just Artie Lang was taken, and I noticed that this poet, Charles Bukowski, had on his epitaph, Don't try.
Starting point is 01:26:05 His thing was, and that's all it said. It goes, the art of quitting is underrated. And I said, for peace, I'll quit something before I die. So that's what that means. Beautiful. Artie Quitter. Artie Quitter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Artie Quitter, ladies and gentlemen. And Artie, your podcast website one more time? ArtieQuitter.com is the same place. Artie Quitter Twitter. Artie Quitter, all one word,.com. Artie Lang Uncensored. Thanks. Thank you,itter.com is the same place. Artiequitter Twitter, Artiequitter all one word dot com. Artie Lange Uncensored. Thanks. Thank you brother. Crew, thanks Joe.
Starting point is 01:26:31 That was fun man. Thank you.

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